< 1411171923 207946 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PART :#esoteric < 1411173442 839030 :Nieralyte!~Nieralyte@94.232.184.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411173615 474692 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-153.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1411173652 709139 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-153.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1411173652 859797 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1411174376 190853 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411174629 791343 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out how to make highly dynamic languages co-operate as a Racket language library < 1411174658 287257 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lang tcl #:phase 'macro to have the code be run as its parsed, and thus able to make its definitions available as a library < 1411174700 638532 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And #lang tcl #:phase 'run for runtime, suitable for scripts that are meant to be run but not provide objects) < 1411174726 696407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although tcl may be a bad example because it has a second impediment to interoperating with Racket, everything is a string < 1411174919 384429 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Nieralyte < 1411174935 957406 :Sorella!~queen@191.185.197.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411174985 543094 :Sorella!~queen@191.185.197.120 QUIT :Changing host < 1411174985 694404 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1411175228 156390 :Nieralyte!~Nieralyte@94.232.184.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1411175243 449732 :Nieralyte!~Nieralyte@94.232.184.5 PART #esoteric :"I'm a happy Miranda NG user! Get it here: http://miranda-ng.org/" < 1411175785 998878 :vyv_!~vyv@bas1-northbay04-1176387069.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1411175966 150087 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1411176012 14262 :vyv!~vyv@bas1-northbay04-2925118321.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411176164 407607 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411177403 679699 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411177641 980249 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411178548 393203 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1411179359 734608 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0 < 1411179376 372599 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1411179685 360430 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411179960 930513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1411180781 729592 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0 < 1411180831 830651 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1411180878 134944 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d QUIT :Changing host < 1411180878 323977 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1411180983 745867 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411181046 244369 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411181658 285840 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411181742 573409 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1411181754 206373 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411181791 57298 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1411181885 558118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Foobar and Foobaz and Barbaz, oh my!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40482&oldid=30751 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+183) 10 < 1411183350 764565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION twitches at yellow being called a primary color
< 1411183354 141333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just so... wrong < 1411183360 643881 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I know it's not) < 1411183428 110537 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only primary colors i accept are red, blue, and linearly polarized. < 1411183451 367231 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linearly polarized = green... right? < 1411183468 106515 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAS to be green. < 1411183491 720986 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no real primary colors < 1411183507 687131 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for red, blue and green. < 1411183521 550181 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our eyes have 3 types of cones with strange frequency responses < 1411183538 508488 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :says you. imma tetrachromat. < 1411183549 526849 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1411183563 408103 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft. Are you female, Bike? < 1411183578 91549 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1411183587 428389 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, then I doubt your tetrachromation. < 1411183590 228615 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bike. < 1411183599 646229 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-...- < 1411183623 393155 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm a mantis shrimp < 1411183627 687928 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought this was obvious. < 1411183639 129263 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's in a name... < 1411183686 556801 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 distinct letters, one of which is repeated twice, and a non-alphanumeric character. < 1411183773 521085 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was a tetrachromat. < 1411183778 199952 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mantis shrimp are kinda crappy at color vision, in a sense http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/01/23/the-mantis-shrimp-sees-like-a-satellite/ < 1411183872 354478 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally i didn't know 15 nm was that much of a difference < 1411184343 301819 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a video I saw explaining the Scottish independence thing said that the 12th doctor was against. Is he talking about the character (who has made jokes?), or has Peter Capaldi actually said something? Googling wasn't so helpful < 1411184454 493564 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the twelfth doctor pissed on a saltire in Restoration of the Daleks < 1411184903 843388 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peter capaldi *is* doctor who, sgeo. < 1411185505 142442 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1411185514 836985 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I am not caught up :( < 1411185522 504351 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: finally you admit it < 1411185529 356037 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I know what the dual of pumpkin is < 1411185580 195961 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what the dual of ppro is < 1411185660 247102 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the dual of 'ke' is. < 1411185667 136945 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the* < 1411185749 494750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Puzzlang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40483&oldid=40478 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (-10) 10 < 1411185804 82352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Imaginer114]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40484&oldid=40443 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+74) 10 < 1411185828 793097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Imaginer114]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40485&oldid=40484 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+17) 10 < 1411185944 538989 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1411186315 621647 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: haven't figured it out yet < 1411186391 789913 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411186454 45540 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411187087 326215 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.71.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411187264 969149 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.64.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1411187277 403240 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.71.77 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411187511 876625 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1411187844 520784 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411188082 44118 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411188271 186190 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.81.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411188281 350140 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.71.77 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411188373 837276 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411188500 168995 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411188662 475906 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411192148 259892 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1411192390 484813 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-utfyyvaukjrtxpef QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411192466 161860 :upgrayeddd!sid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oysdzmqguciwulxz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411193236 8544 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.81.8 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411193734 500805 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbyctiqpsetszkkh JOIN :#esoteric < 1411193936 449073 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.81.8 PART :#esoteric < 1411194090 817185 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1411194491 497000 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411195661 29610 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-228-170.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1411195858 554728 :upgrayeddd!sid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ocxledlkqbyhgsjc JOIN :#esoteric < 1411197933 434428 :_thekey!~qwertyo@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411198664 329132 :thekey!~qwertyo@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411198749 54802 :_thekey!~qwertyo@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411198912 190969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Seribund14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40486 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+2243) 10Added a new language: Seribund. < 1411198973 709636 :barrucadu!~barrucadu@fsf/member/barrucadu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1411199335 372211 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.71.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411199337 197692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/gOie?sh that's the bashiest bash script I've ever written < 1411199565 865333 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can't you write that as > part in approximately pseudorandom-ish way. (All even programs in "hill ID" order are flipped, but that's not visible in the breakdown because it's sorted by name.) < 1411200170 492440 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it feels weird to wait until the end of the loop to find out what it's processing data in. < 1411200181 478661 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach x { ... } in xs < 1411200195 676982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's admittedly a true. < 1411200210 197692 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you may be the first person to actually use the sieve and kettle terminology. < 1411200275 149680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to check the wiki every time to figure out which one was sieve and which one kettle. < 1411200293 84999 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Keymaker14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40487&oldid=38938 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+87) 10Updating. < 1411201103 905329 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411201185 209931 :thekey!~qwertyo@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1411201997 4113 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.71.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411202039 866441 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.73.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411202266 4910 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@62.205.71.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411202369 814227 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.73.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411202505 704354 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@62.205.71.87 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411203776 566693 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411203801 641964 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411204297 506335 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbyctiqpsetszkkh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1411206205 965347 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411207069 617427 :KingOfKarlsruhe_!~KingOfKar@static.84.17.63.178.clients.your-server.de PART :#esoteric < 1411207123 613094 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1411207628 311444 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1411208119 358594 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, Taneb: http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/s/2014-3/ESOSC-2014-D3-R2.pdf < 1411208158 980265 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. Figure 1.1 caption is wrong though < 1411208199 904347 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no newline translation for ','? < 1411208258 977596 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, as it reads a character (not a byte), what happens to unicode codepoints above 255? < 1411208370 203397 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1411208402 711771 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's newline translation for , < 1411208463 319948 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. on windows for \r\n a , instructions needs to buffer < 1411208469 636474 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has to translate \r\n to \n < 1411208472 544512 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where \n = 10 < 1411208504 195205 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1411208531 549196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we need a #CHARSET utf8 or something < 1411208564 509413 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it says nothing on EOF handling < 1411208669 218628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, not nothing, since there are related language options, but the description of , is silent on the topic < 1411208909 751312 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1411209020 330617 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :" If a newline is read by a \textit{,} instruction the current cell's value must be set to 10. On some plattforms (such as windows) this may require < 1411209023 839684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to consume or write two or more characters. " < 1411209182 926557 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's right there :) < 1411209195 522655 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall I write it clearer? < 1411209283 358031 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. is UNICODE necessary if we have #CHARSET utf8? < 1411209552 9765 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411209713 762108 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-228-170.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1411210105 44887 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-228-170.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1411210282 924275 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1411210414 657277 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411211443 959684 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411211877 245656 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.75.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411211993 3792 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.71.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411212004 382949 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.75.243 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411212492 288199 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.75.243 QUIT : < 1411215526 215808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411215759 335423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1411216097 310516 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1411216633 665914 :DootBot!~cinch@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411216696 112974 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.94.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411219039 870272 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.86.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411219142 644282 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.94.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411219805 44915 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411220129 954315 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.86.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411220169 408986 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.78.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411220337 215004 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1411220458 310386 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.77.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411220589 479936 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.78.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411220744 958902 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.87.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411220772 296159 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.77.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411221326 830478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Puzzlang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40488&oldid=40483 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* Implementation */ grm < 1411221788 435015 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.72.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411222018 470116 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.87.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1411222167 265379 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40489&oldid=40428 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+175) 10Added a compiler and cat programs < 1411222236 166179 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I'd say no, as utf-8 can be handled per-byte basis, while UNICODE set the system to work on codepoints. so, UNICODE should be separate from charset selection < 1411222312 125990 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1411222325 696104 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no point setting #CHARSET utf8 if you write/read bytes < 1411222351 249916 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there? < 1411222369 427447 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean what's the point of setting #CHARSET utf8 if you have to do encoding/decoding yourself? < 1411222909 911514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40490&oldid=40420 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+61) 10Added Bitoven; put fish in its proper alphabetical location < 1411223034 515531 :impomatic_!~digital_w@156.248.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411223514 117817 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1411223701 9052 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411223834 865790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40491&oldid=40489 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+4) 10Forgot registers are initialized at zero- fixed cat programs < 1411224769 108864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40492&oldid=40491 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+167) 10 < 1411225991 196425 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.72.171 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411226317 256975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40493&oldid=40492 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+1720) 10Adding image and description of how to parse from music < 1411226347 647557 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Imaginer1 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Bitoven catprog image.png10]]": A Bitoven program, colorized to show different sections. < 1411226408 544729 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40495&oldid=40493 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (-2) 10 < 1411226502 662558 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitoven14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40496&oldid=40495 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+13) 10 < 1411226889 855191 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.67.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411226962 437199 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.72.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411227080 904655 :Sorella!~queen@191.185.197.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411227128 747196 :Sorella!~queen@191.185.197.120 QUIT :Changing host < 1411227128 898064 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1411227738 535738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411227769 92883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40497&oldid=40490 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+80) 10/* Bitoven */ < 1411228169 980066 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411228258 560897 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.67.27 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411228512 252554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411228916 974756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1411228922 557083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's the progress on the BF Joust bot like? I've written tons of programs over the last couple of days < 1411228933 88535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a bugfix to preparation, plus three more, which aren't as good but are still pretty good < 1411229184 769915 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust adumb >>>(+)*64<(-)*16>>--->+++>------>>>([-]>)*21 < 1411229185 846095 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan~adumb: points -24.90, score 12.72/100, rank 47/47 < 1411229210 980292 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust adumb >>>(+)*64<(-)*16>>--->+++>------>>>([-]>)*28 < 1411229211 811825 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan~adumb: points -24.90, score 12.72/100, rank 47/47 (change: --) < 1411229259 489466 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust adumb >>>>>(+)*37<(-)*11>>--->+++>------>([-]>)*28 < 1411229259 993432 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan~adumb: points -25.52, score 12.06/100, rank 47/47 (change: --) < 1411229281 245316 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid game. < 1411229676 157741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Puzzlang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40498&oldid=33305 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+133) 10 < 1411229690 105807 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the hill seems to work fine < 1411229706 260550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, it's working < 1411229808 319152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1411229813 14132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the hill online? < 1411229888 591669 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make my own hill < 1411229892 697202 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with black jack and hookers. < 1411229923 918309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust preparation http://nethack4.org/esolangs/preparation.bfjoust < 1411229926 114919 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523~preparation: points 22.67, score 100.00/100, rank 1/47 < 1411229932 106876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/47 < 1411229940 932975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I can describe it on the wiki now :-) < 1411229941 408476 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1411229952 664346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: I have spent /months/ working on that program < 1411229960 492816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust monolith http://nethack4.org/esolangs/monolith.bfjoust < 1411229961 67708 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523~monolith: points 22.67, score 100.00/100, rank 1/47 < 1411229966 259877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1411229983 164174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect that to come #1, I thought it'd be more like #2 or #3 < 1411230012 342967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I originally wrote it based on wondering what sort of program would beat preparation < 1411230017 529556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other two can't do nearly that well, surely < 1411230027 184631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust growth http://nethack4.org/esolangs/growth.bfjoust < 1411230027 924566 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523~growth: points 16.31, score 77.02/100, rank 5/47 < 1411230042 35766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust hippo_ballerina http://nethack4.org/esolangs/hippo_ballerina.bfjoust < 1411230042 821958 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523~hippo_ballerina: points 2.14, score 39.82/100, rank 12/47 < 1411230045 749763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more reasonable < 1411230073 751012 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monolith isn't even that big. < 1411230103 8090 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1411230106 372876 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1411230112 975373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a one-liner, indeed < 1411230114 353581 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust < 1411230114 504760 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: "!bfjoust progname code". See http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for documentation. < 1411230119 681728 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that has the breakdown and report and stuff < 1411230123 53492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust monolith (>+)*4 (>--)*4 ((-)*5<)*4 ((+)*6<)*3 (+)*5 (>)*7 ((-)*20<)*4 ((+)*20<)*3 (+)*20 (>)*7 ((-)*20<)*4 ((+)*20<)*4 (+)*50 (>)*10 (>[(-)*4([+{[.---]}][.-[.-]]>(-)*12)%3000][..++-----[..++-----]])*21 < 1411230123 936202 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523~monolith: points 21.33, score 95.39/100, rank 2/47 (change: --) < 1411230131 872035 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1411230137 65311 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs that small are viable again? < 1411230148 460115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it /shouldn't/ be viable < 1411230151 945164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sets eight decoys then rushes < 1411230154 383840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all it is < 1411230157 967951 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1411230171 451253 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hill finally got advanced enough to not defend against simple programs? < 1411230177 765591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it when I realised "well, a program should beat preparation if it sets at least eight decoys" < 1411230178 175416 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does '%' do again? < 1411230185 542638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: it's used to abbreviate nested programs < 1411230197 67377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a{b}c)%n is the same as (a)*n b (c)*b < 1411230200 20989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(c)*n < 1411230207 999683 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, did you deliberately nerf it down to #2? < 1411230208 406354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you're allowed to open brackets in a and close them in c < 1411230209 158395 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. ty < 1411230222 391080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bueue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40499&oldid=35501 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+93) 10 < 1411230222 541113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: no, it's just less good against hippo_ballerina and growth than preparation is < 1411230225 935825 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1411230256 278986 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the hill should have a limit to the number of programs on one nick < 1411230264 632536 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or results for your programs against each other shouldn't count, or something < 1411230270 512597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if there's no abuse and the programs are sufficiently different < 1411230276 119622 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the effect of people's multiple warriors fighting against themselves is kinda weird. < 1411230283 86503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I like about BF Joust is that I can compete against myself effectively indefinitely < 1411230287 229378 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when added in quick succession < 1411230289 562140 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1411230315 837442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's not like that, I basically just looked for a bunch of new strategies < 1411230316 948023 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have both ais523_preparation and ais523~preparation there now, though < 1411230322 229789 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably can't do anything about the former < 1411230325 458023 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not quite ideal < 1411230326 56976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: well I can't delete the old one < 1411230337 228312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new one is better, and I would gladly delete the old one if I were able < 1411230343 509327 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you rename nick_warrior to nick~warrior so nick adding a new version of warrior doesn't leave the old one around? < 1411230371 302366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get rid of the old preparation < 1411230381 944312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because it beats the new preparation ;-) < 1411230390 715992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't test versions of a program against each other) < 1411230511 394060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: anyway, there's no way that monolith should beat something like space_hotel < 1411230516 262766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact, it doesn't beat space_hotel < 1411230556 466885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the reason it works is that I've got better at clear loops < 1411230569 183838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the theory of clear loops was worked out before programs set tons of decoys < 1411230604 404489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know for sure that your opponent's set a load of large decoys, you may as well just use a tiny or absent offset < 1411230618 281733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because against a large decoy, an offset's cost is equal to three times the value of the offset < 1411230676 394723 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1411230697 257984 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why three? < 1411230779 422369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411230784 959573 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411230786 251426 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:32] elliott_: it takes you one cycle to set each value of the offset, then two to clear the value you just set < 1411230787 641378 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:32] assuming a two-cycle clear < 1411230858 999736 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: well, okay, s/against a large decoy/against a large decoy or the flag/, then < 1411230865 709017 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant it was something inherent about decoys which sounded weird. < 1411230870 276068 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1411230877 262903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh, right, yes < 1411230894 608812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole point of decoys is that they look the same as flags < 1411230897 770866 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a large decoy or the flag or the debris of a computation :p < 1411230906 679265 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, I thought maybe the 3* was assuming 3 decoys or something. < 1411230942 12291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: almost all times I've used the tape for computation, it ends up at 0 :P < 1411231464 216525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bueue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40500&oldid=35504 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+286) 10 < 1411231744 956001 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411231870 289963 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411231871 688987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bueue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40501&oldid=40500 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+148) 10 < 1411231901 623127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bueue14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40502&oldid=40501 5* 03Imaginer1 5* (+71) 10 < 1411231917 659659 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411232476 215093 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411232945 905426 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this "by whom" wikipedia? < 1411232976 1275 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golfing languages like GolfScript and Flogscript are generally considered[by whom?] to be Esoteric programming languages as useful applications other than for code golfing are very limited due to their limitations on overall speed, readability and function[citation needed] < 1411232997 870394 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :considered by the golfing community? < 1411233006 435099 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that be as vague. < 1411233034 499957 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who else is there? < 1411233049 111359 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1411233053 752510 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has an article on esolangs.org < 1411233061 294548 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be enough "evidence" of it being esoteric < 1411233119 169629 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all golfing languages esoteric? < 1411233148 529874 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1411233155 862271 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call them esoteric < 1411233160 683467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call them golfing languages :) < 1411233198 847659 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric is always subjective to some extent < 1411233234 430197 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough < 1411233299 153178 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Are bfjoust programs required to have wacky names? < 1411233310 475464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: no, I used to call them attack1, attack2, etc. < 1411233324 827317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I prefer to give them names that makes it easy for me to remember what they do < 1411233334 421236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've ever looked at growth in a debugger, it should be clear why it has that name < 1411233364 765037 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. So they’re useful mnemonics for the author. < 1411233371 399775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1411233373 964349 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just *look* random. < 1411233413 927649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, calling a program "hippo_ballerina" is not obviously very descriptive, but it works better if you know it's a program that takes care not to disturb enemy tripwires until it finds a large decoy, then goes and tramples over them all anyway < 1411233454 270237 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods.
< 1411233522 929363 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does '.' do in a bfjoust program? < 1411233566 821481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waits one turn < 1411233602 194274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original use of the command was to throw off the timing of opposing programs that relied on you having a consistent timing < 1411233606 484788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but various other uses have been discovered < 1411233609 323440 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no weird outputting? okay < 1411233668 569905 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so much more to jousting than one would at 1st assume < 1411233680 145230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: have you seen the strategy page? < 1411233683 911987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies < 1411233758 769769 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It went way over my head the 1st time i read them < 1411233791 348418 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but understanding it a little more each time < 1411233816 25935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm really proud of growth, because it accomplishes something I've been trying to do for /ages/ < 1411233870 34453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to exploit the fact that most programs do a rule of nine < 1411233881 884389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, it comes a year or too two late, because it's no longer the case that most programs do a rule of nine < 1411233895 824220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Exploiting the fact that an opponent uses this tactic is difficult or impossible; in theory it can give away information about the tape length, but it's too easily confused by decoys and similar tactics. < 1411233995 769336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, I'm a bit sad that monolith came #1, because it has such a boring explanation < 1411234002 829855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the plus side, though, I can paste the program directly into the wiki < 1411234092 677989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me write about the probabilistic lock, though < 1411234096 934110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an innovation I'm really pleased with < 1411234104 108031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the main idea behind preparation < 1411234329 692138 :Glaisher!Philon@wikimedia/Glaisher JOIN :#esoteric < 1411234403 88126 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, the ad is no longer available < 1411234454 564665 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is EgoBot? < 1411234482 729039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't been here for ages; this is why zemhill took over the jousting < 1411234512 376146 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1411234622 949129 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_instruction_minimalization#Skip_If_Zero_expansion_.284_instructions.29 is this really Turing complete? < 1411234674 152643 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411234677 6059 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411234831 345436 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/LoganKelly/LOLTracer < 1411234885 531420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The results are in http://zem.fi/bfjoust/report.txt and http://zem.fi/bfjoust/breakdown.txt if nobody said that yet. I'm kinda-sorta working on a proper web page. < 1411234894 406645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Renaming the old _s to ~s sounds like the best idea. < 1411234970 419323 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411234977 206448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it the old college try. < 1411234982 308086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whatever that means.) < 1411235028 926614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just get rid of the old preparation, the new one is better < 1411235095 871682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1411235109 275245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411235212 297608 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1411235239 632036 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411235240 701567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test < < 1411235241 41142 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie~test: points -46.00, score 0.00/100, rank 47/47 (change: --) < 1411235267 397655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it right. < 1411235584 990993 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.88 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1411235664 198753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the programs are in http://zem.fi/git/?p=hill < 1411235726 64675 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywbzugjacidunqvy JOIN :#esoteric < 1411235785 855222 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411235952 610007 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust adumb (>+>-)*4<<(+)*64<[]>>>(>[>((+)*20[-]>)*21])*21 < 1411235953 86429 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan~adumb: points -32.31, score 5.38/100, rank 47/47 < 1411236115 128976 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust adumb (>+>-)*4<<(+)*64<[]<<<<<(+)*57>>>(>[>((+)*20[-]>)*21])*21 < 1411236115 899923 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan~adumb: points -36.19, score 3.61/100, rank 47/47 (change: --) < 1411236130 112518 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse and worse < 1411236175 247888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: you're basically waiting for the opponent, and then, umm < 1411236179 709904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjusting your flag by 57 and rushing? < 1411236210 52290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the purpose of that code is basically just to give the opponent a large head start < 1411236316 688218 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so crazy, it just might work...? < 1411236326 327616 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1411236411 440280 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I'm throwing stuff together to see what it looks like. < 1411236830 106473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clem14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40503&oldid=40448 5* 03Zerk 5* (+30) 10/* External resources */ < 1411236986 403269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clem14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40504&oldid=40503 5* 03Zerk 5* (+0) 10/* External resources */ < 1411237038 967039 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: try egojsout for testing warriors < 1411237043 173235 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good way to visualise things < 1411237070 381155 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, I am. < 1411237099 383274 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure which bot I should test my bot. < 1411237105 771793 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :against. < 1411237114 196541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"simple" is a good start < 1411237131 115052 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems logical. < 1411237523 598888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF Joust strategies14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40505&oldid=39754 5* 03Ais523 5* (+2313) 10/* Probabilistic lock */ new section < 1411237534 735015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold, the secret to preparation < 1411237536 708970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one of them < 1411237571 323332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't added a trace-and-animation yet < 1411237720 840644 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.94.179 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411237733 921005 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411238368 304735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411238467 367738 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust AndoDaando_trieste (>+>-)*4<<(+)*64><<<(--)*32<<<<(+)*32>(>)*9(>[>((+)*20[-]>)*21])*21 < 1411238468 102536 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan~AndoDaando_trieste: points -18.40, score 12.58/100, rank 47/47 < 1411239481 655572 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1411239657 67773 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411240983 59914 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1411241301 145141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm busy documenting monolith and preparation < 1411241303 936027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monolith was much easier :-) < 1411241377 974656 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411242467 627012 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411243527 730692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF Joust strategies14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40506&oldid=40505 5* 03Ais523 5* (+11616) 10/* 2014 */ yay, this section isn't empty any more; I topped the hill twice on the same day < 1411243548 191101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, if you wanted to know how preparation (or monolith) works, there you go < 1411243617 547014 :weissschloss!~viskestel@li607-220.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1411243701 470976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, BF Joust players: there's a strategy I've noticed lots of people using, but it isn't documented/named yet < 1411243713 929049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to jump a distance past the end of your poke depending on how far you moved < 1411244877 570916 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0 < 1411244892 965221 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1411244914 591477 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d QUIT :Client Quit < 1411245283 687417 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1411245297 321473 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1411245565 776887 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, a program from 2014. That's a huge entry, @ais523 < 1411245587 998998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: I've been working on it (on and off) for like nine months < 1411245672 137723 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what comes next? < 1411245680 991307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I've submitted a few others too < 1411245688 53333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully someone will dethrone preparation before long < 1411245699 619753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has plenty of exploitable weaknesses, and that message should help people identify them < 1411245717 802851 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...by copying and slightly changing your code... < 1411245744 963341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's normally considered bad style < 1411245782 199718 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..by copying and replacing all the + with - in your code... < 1411245811 362049 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kid. < 1411245944 969327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: that's actually done automatically by the hill bots nowadays < 1411245958 51678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it combines the score from the regular run, and a run with + and - swapped < 1411245958 890700 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the polarity < 1411245961 473576 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thingy < 1411245977 877579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are called "sieve" and "kettle" for reasons I don't fully understand, but elliott_ insisted < 1411245999 183903 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1411246038 474634 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411246045 914014 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'+' = sieve, '-'=kettle < 1411246047 239384 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1411246072 992413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, sieve = "without swapping + and -" < 1411246077 536961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kettle = "swapping + and - in one program" < 1411246079 198399 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it when the polarity is reversed that it's called kettle and whne normal... < 1411246086 756217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(swapping in both is the same as not swapping in either) < 1411246147 877945 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1411246154 441206 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1411246158 328774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1411246161 965683 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1411246165 339790 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1411246168 236515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1411246187 253638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many "hi"s do we need before they stop being greetings, and start being "hi"s of disapproval? < 1411246192 437553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at the "hi" spam) < 1411246197 842780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome haruka < 1411246198 904051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haruka: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1411246201 798142 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it ^^ < 1411246209 624627 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally some talking active people < 1411246209 902398 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when don't we do relcomes? < 1411246224 529631 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe just bots? xD < 1411246228 683771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: since I got to them first < 1411246232 861173 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1411246235 336150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, nobody speaking there is a bot but HackEgo < 1411246243 937707 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haruka: there are some bots here, too < 1411246244 488236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always been in favour of the welcome that is actually useful < 1411246258 538270 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1411246258 803339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1411246260 436103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than all the variants that have no obvious reason for existence < 1411246282 175564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome isn't so bad, though; I tried to get it usable because it's the one everyone else uses < 1411246283 421920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06isn't: 13so: 04bad,: 07though;: 08I: 09tried: 02to: 06get: 13it: 04usable: 07because: 08it's: 09the: 02one: 06everyone: 13else: 04uses: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13 < 1411246307 985750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1411246309 541111 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1411246315 894672 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haruka: we've got all kind of bots (even a got), someone we still don't know if it's a bot or a human, and well... a bunch of humans. but don't trust them, they tend to make less sense than the bots. < 1411246344 336821 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1411246344 633959 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who's the one in question of being a bot? < 1411246345 931115 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!AmIABot < 1411246346 81665 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ i think i like it here < 1411246361 942876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi evalj! < 1411246362 405133 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: yes. < 1411246363 723819 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1411246364 195560 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ('no';'yes'){~*#'are you a bot?' < 1411246370 559360 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ('no';'yes'){~*#'are you a bot?' < 1411246370 842823 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: +---+ < 1411246370 993261 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |yes| < 1411246370 993404 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: +---+ < 1411246371 436130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately I don't know J, or I'd give you some J to evaluate < 1411246380 23710 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ('no';'yes'){::~*#'are you a bot?' < 1411246380 311187 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes < 1411246383 539568 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate J < 1411246391 88894 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love J < 1411246396 233698 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, when the bot has a talkin script, i'm happy :D < 1411246398 603013 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote solidity < 1411246399 284782 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :241) enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1411246399 435272 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't write it, though < 1411246404 97439 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just need someone to babbly about crap < 1411246415 228466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haruka: you need to talk to fungot about that < 1411246417 750245 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi myname ^^ < 1411246420 13042 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: myndzi. I believe it's a bot. < 1411246424 223309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't here < 1411246430 784488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot's down < 1411246438 303855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: myndzi is both a person and a bot, who use the same account < 1411246443 175684 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fungot < 1411246449 905551 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411246457 816046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can cause confusion sometimes < 1411246589 499768 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1411246589 788959 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1411246589 969272 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  >\ < 1411246618 734416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411246628 302272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411246642 418528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clem14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40507&oldid=40504 5* 03Zerk 5* (+241) 10/* Strings */ +quine < 1411246857 67875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1411246881 223290 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411246887 763847 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hello fungot! < 1411246888 324979 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't remember what is the 90k javascript file... for? :) where would you see some multiplications? who would have thought < 1411246909 267185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Uh, are you rewriting yourself in javascript? < 1411246909 789628 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: was my fnord idea, not something that is easy for unlambda to simulate unlambda: just construct a tree where each node has it's own lisp intepreter. < 1411246924 39758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's vaguely unsettling. < 1411246978 375014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that almost seems like the sort of idea that someone would seriously suggest in #esoteric < 1411246987 540892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ,(?18 4$4){"0 1"1 2]4 4$'_\(|oooO|)/_ ' < 1411246989 345755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an unlambda self-compiler via a tree with a lisp interpreter at each node < 1411246992 646435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,(?18 4$4){"0 1"1 2]4 4$'_\(|oooO|)/_ ' < 1411246992 947026 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o/ (o| (o_ (o| \o| (o| (o) |O) |o| \O) (O_ (o_ \o| \o| _o/ |o) \o| |o) < 1411247017 502678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I didn't realise that the idea was generated entirely at random, I'd try to work out the details < 1411247059 445074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411247059 964548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,(?10 4$4){"0 1"1 2]4 4$'_\(|oooO|)/_ ' < 1411247060 114998 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |o/ |O/ \O) (o| (o/ _O/ |o_ _O| |o_ (o| < 1411247060 286128 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |                       |       | < 1411247060 471856 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         >\                      |\     /`\ < 1411247064 993389 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411247067 675200 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1411247068 786464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,(?10 4$4){"0 1"1 2]4 4$'_\(|oooo|)/_ ' < 1411247069 52413 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _o| |o_ \o_ |o_ \o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ \o) \o) < 1411247069 442008 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         |   |   |   |   | < 1411247069 606971 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        /'\  |\ /'\ /`\ /| < 1411247076 913305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1411247077 63318 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1411247082 99839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,(?10 4$4){"0 1"1 2]4 4$'_-\|oooo|/-_ ' < 1411247082 411849 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -o/ _o/ \o| \o- _o_ -o- |o| \o_ \o_ \o/ < 1411247082 812296 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         ¦   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1411247082 990402 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        ´¸¨ /<   >\ /<  /´\ /|  /'\  >\ /<  /| < 1411247083 472575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the generally best one < 1411247087 885356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1411247088 35982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1411247099 833752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I like setting fungot to the weirder ones sometimes < 1411247100 68024 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: " how ever would oo do a garden without one? we make each bed three mouses and a half exactly.' < 1411247101 155900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, it uses "¦" for the body sometimes? < 1411247137 834754 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it indicates jumping up and down. < 1411247139 127854 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at the broken bar. “something very fishy and wrong is going on here...”
< 1411247140 425057 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an exposed spine. < 1411247480 368589 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,(' ',{.,'o',{:)"1(?12 2$5){"0 1"$2 5$'_-|\<>/' < 1411247480 685723 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |o| \o- _o- -o/ \o_ -o| |o/ \ /|   >\ /`\ /^\  >\ /<  /|   |\  >\  >\ /´\ < 1411247520 103820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,.(' ',{.,'o',{:)"1(?5 12 2$5){"0 1"$2 5$'_-|\<>/' < 1411247520 649205 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o- \o- |o- \o/ _o| |o- -o> -o_ |o- \o_ _o- |o> \o> < 1411247520 799916 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -o/ _o| \o- -o| _o- |o/ -o| _o| < 1411247520 800059 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: \o/ \o/ _o| _o| |o> -o| -o/ \o- _o| |o_ _o_ _o/ |o/ |o> |o/ \ /´\ /<  /|  /<  ´¸¨ /|   |\ /<   >\ /´\ < 1411247521 293357 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1411247521 949479 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |\  >\ /|   |\ /|   >\ /<   >\ /|  /|  /`\  >\ < 1411247547 456316 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1411247691 971318 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411247963 999413 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411247979 630185 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411247998 105680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust force_report_update (><)*-1 < 1411247998 932951 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie~force_report_update: points -33.71, score 4.35/100, rank 47/47 < 1411248057 264223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's basically nop.bfjoust < 1411248060 69794 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-228-170.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411248252 307185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put the beginnings of a real website at http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ but it's missing most of the stuff. < 1411248511 986190 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see haruka received the traditional overwhelming #esoteric welcome :p < 1411248545 799426 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hashtag esoteric welcome < 1411248631 914216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: in case you missed the BF Joust activity, I came first with two different programs < 1411248646 475771 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCLMULLDDQUNORVCVTUNORDPS < 1411248656 208783 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this opcode . < 1411248678 394051 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: o_o < 1411248680 950142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if fizzie can make a `words equivalent for CPU opcodes < 1411248684 611020 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can we just declare you as having won bfjoust < 1411248694 61500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: preparation finally winning wasn't much of a surprise, given how I was working on it for nine months < 1411248697 58941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I already have a web page for that. < 1411248700 631910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monolith winning, though, was < 1411248702 967743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it's a one-liner < 1411248710 730548 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, I thought you meant two new ones < 1411248718 130446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://zem.fi/2014-04-05-opquiz < 1411248719 503138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:22] !bfjoust monolith (>+)*4 (>--)*4 ((-)*5<)*4 ((+)*6<)*3 (+)*5 (>)*7 ((-)*20<)*4 ((+)*20<)*3 (+)*20 (>)*7 ((-)*20<)*4 ((+)*20<)*4 (+)*50 (>)*10 (>[(-)*4([+{[.---]}][.-[.-]]>(-)*12)%3000][..++-----[..++-----]])*21 < 1411248720 915834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:22] ais523~monolith: points 21.33, score 95.39/100, rank 2/47 (change: --) < 1411248721 477772 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I talked about preparation and monolith with you... right after you submitted them... I was there < 1411248726 927696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1411248734 833287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget who's who < 1411248744 920959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I can get a radically different program up to #1 in the near future, thoguh < 1411248747 759743 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy mistake to make. there's nothing unusual about me < 1411248783 496369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel good about growth, but it's not near #1 standard unless I have some new ideas < 1411248788 591006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very fun to watch in egojsout, though < 1411248792 781464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't look anything like any of the other programs < 1411248839 536223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, it does beat simple < 1411248842 412755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was worried it wouldn't < 1411248854 921859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple not having an antishudder can completely screw up programs that attack the standard way of doing things < 1411248972 874799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, growth vs. simple is /beautiful/ < 1411248977 738347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the strategy works perfectly < 1411249010 136318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we go: http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/?l=28ec45e1b8d742586c4857371d07270e24b32d8f&r=700a65536df97b655acd5c8a6fd2fc3014b46148 < 1411249099 163291 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a visualiazer < 1411249105 549318 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, there is one, nvm >_> < 1411249286 998893 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, how does growth fall off at length 19? < 1411249328 18400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: bad decoy pattern clash < 1411249335 612632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it confuses a decoy for a clear attempt and runs off the end of the tape < 1411249348 621348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sort of thing always seems to happen with sufficiently advanced programs < 1411249359 671375 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to ruin bf joust with one rule change: tape wraps < 1411249375 532650 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to ruin bf joust with one rule change: bignums < 1411249382 950272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bignums would be a lot worse < 1411249395 605486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, (+)*100000 would be mathematically incapable of losing < 1411249422 40564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tape wrapping would at least be vaguely playable, especially because if you went past the enemy flag, you'd probably continue by clearing your own flag < 1411249428 302030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1411249435 492040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just do < at the start of the program :-) < 1411249443 201640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still more playable than bignums, though < 1411249446 644483 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :make them diametrically opposed, presumably? < 1411249462 239432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work < 1411249482 664070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would also allow a strategy whereby you put a noticeable decoy pattern on the tape, then tried to wrap round and detect your own pattern after one wrap < 1411249486 659123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'd know how long the tape was < 1411249498 921874 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1411249512 961506 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue I think would be that simple naive programs would have a big advantage in terms of distance < 1411249522 329412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program that tries to deal with both fronts has to spend time running back and forth < 1411249542 809817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that's true of standard BF Joust too < 1411249556 4533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's the reason I reduced the tape length to 10-30, it was previously well over 100 < 1411249563 416880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so that defence programs actually had time to run back and forth < 1411249570 662021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it removes a whole load of boring midgame < 1411249596 524112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where people just (>)*100 past the cells that can't possibly be the enemy flag and aren't useful for decoys because the enemy knows it can't possibly be your flag either < 1411249697 576141 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if 30 is too long. < 1411249747 982246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, basically because there's a sharp distinction at 18 < 1411249755 12679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want approximately the same number of cells both sides < 1411249768 305223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(18 is the point at which you don't get decoy setup collisions) < 1411250483 28884 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.70.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411250486 82764 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ESCALATING CHICKEN < 1411250629 848344 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.84.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411250899 145549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to put it another way, preparation starts attacking at cell 18 if the opponent hasn't actually interfered by then < 1411250907 298215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor shown signs of being defensive < 1411251172 234077 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly 36 then :p < 1411251513 15698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: also the fact that the tape can go longer than 28 has been relevant for some of my programs < 1411251533 981355 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 28? < 1411251537 567882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point at which a program that's complex and overengineered as the sort of stuff I typically write is at risk of running out of time < 1411251595 464393 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to see generalized bfjoust clearly < 1411251609 494535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoughts on how to add the per-match detailed <<<>>> stuff in http://zem.fi/bfjoust/matrix/ (if that even works for anyone else)? I was thinking of making each cell a link to a local EgoJSout view (the "Games" tab), perhaps that'd be enough. < 1411251660 231446 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ideally the interpreter would produce the relevant execution traces when running the hill < 1411251665 718517 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they could be animated with JS? < 1411251670 824053 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's work compared to jsut linking to egojsout though. < 1411251678 496448 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just < 1411251684 378129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The execution traces would be equivalent, anyway. < 1411251697 559217 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice if the row/column got highlighted, crosshair-style. < 1411251697 827196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modulo bugs, anyway. < 1411251701 83619 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bold is a bit hard to keep track of. < 1411251718 556869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I can probably do. If I can figure out how the CSS works for columns. < 1411251728 499770 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411251735 587781 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was my connectino < 1411251740 486517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re variants, there's the "corewarsy" one with a longer (wrapping) tape, and the programs' flags positioned randomly. < 1411251741 254663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411251745 222824 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1411251764 57606 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://quirksmode.org/css/css2/columns.html < 1411251767 791096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I take it that the brightness shows the winning margin? < 1411251773 283734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1411251788 677586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to tooltip (HTML TITLE) the exact margin, or maybe even the breakdown < 1411251795 827501 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just start the table with a colgroup of cols < 1411251800 195955 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can style those col elements < 1411251835 454334 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice if the program names by themselves linked to the source code (maybe just load it up in egojsout with no right warrior?) < 1411251841 939665 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(none pizza with left warrior) < 1411251868 279420 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the colour shading. < 1411251919 76938 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does x mean? draw? < 1411251977 479002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Oh, right, it was '0' in report.txt. < 1411251986 309053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot, since a tie is X in the raw output. < 1411252029 425991 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: - < 1411252033 22224 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.70.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411252065 554874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: incidentally, I instrumented juiced to report the number of cycles and reason for each win/loss < 1411252073 372681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it to quickly get an idea of what programs are doing < 1411252089 978395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because for something as complex as preparation, it's normally possible to tell which codepath it's in by when the match ends < 1411252154 750621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clem14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40508&oldid=40507 5* 03Zerk 5* (-40) 10/* Strings */ quine tweak < 1411252181 872400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made the "Scores" page program names links to the source code. < 1411252900 769302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, BF Joust comment grammar is really weird < 1411252901 622649 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411252910 54991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've taken to using slashes as parentheses because all the beter characters are taken < 1411253160 370305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1411253326 754707 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411253555 890019 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411254108 901148 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1411254781 307453 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1411254939 703921 :callforjudgement!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411254940 311192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411254942 970202 :callforjudgement!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1411254943 120824 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411254957 460148 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1411255358 699828 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411255568 663465 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1411255605 900560 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1411255631 250131 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1411256148 220843 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFB7DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411256157 989503 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1411257517 634126 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds