< 1411257626 793703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] ,(' ',{.,'o',{:)"1(?12 2$5){"0 1"$2 5$'_-|\<>/' < 1411257627 62528 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -o> |o> |o/ -o_ -o/ |o/ \ /<  /<  /|   >\  |\ /|   >\ ´¸¨ /| < 1411257673 683412 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411257902 189684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411257907 628699 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411258275 439337 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411258523 531318 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, which language should be picked to be featured next on the esolangs mainpage? < 1411258664 980439 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1411258695 363956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411258852 861343 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1411258875 52985 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d QUIT :Client Quit < 1411258989 902120 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the 'I am bad at relationships and in a lot of pain' esolang < 1411259024 529310 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a language? < 1411259027 888136 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme check < 1411259129 193140 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find it. I think you just made a cry for help. < 1411259161 830623 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just broke up this morning < 1411259182 680054 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :girlfriend? < 1411259191 894820 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do you need someone to talk to? < 1411259205 193859 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been talking to Sine a bit < 1411259262 683423 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it hurts so much, does it suggest I loved her even though I didn't think I did and I thought she liked me more than I liked her? < 1411259278 576318 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily. < 1411259288 616751 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you liked being in a relationship < 1411259291 931147 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you feel guilty < 1411259293 714319 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1411259523 28900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1411259537 898384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411259797 500307 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411260330 695949 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1411260344 523816 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found a nice concept for a language < 1411260351 249624 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something where you can do < 1411260363 501004 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vect1[$i] += vect2[i] < 1411260366 893038 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will work < 1411260382 977105 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if $ appears the line is turned into a loop < 1411260391 548682 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting with the value 0 < 1411260407 571176 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like bash < 1411260416 853897 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each iteration it checks that none of the subscript values go over the array size < 1411260433 342322 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be compiled < 1411260460 123643 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you look at typical language usage there are LOTS of loops through arrays < 1411260469 787780 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the typical C++ formulation < 1411260497 179069 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(int i=0; i arr1(vect1.begin(), vect1.size()), arr2(vect2.begin(), vect2.size()); arr1 += arr2; :P < 1411261128 205010 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C++: because there's too many ways of doing it!) < 1411261138 172477 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that even work < 1411261148 834946 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :valarray has an overloaded operator+. < 1411261167 987818 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :valarray is what, boost? < 1411261177 832262 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't everything boost? < 1411261190 687578 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++98. < 1411261234 620012 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, better is transform(vect1.begin(), vect1.end(), vect2.begin(), vect1.begin(), plus()) < 1411261259 301627 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++, everyone! < 1411261301 867084 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those use so many charactors and crazy stuff < 1411261427 631875 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: does valaray have a cast from std::vector < 1411261460 63925 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't appear to. < 1411261475 600524 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's useless < 1411261489 441629 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the biggest design mistake of C++ STL was the use of iterators rather than ranges < 1411261498 328368 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's been talk of correcting it, but who knows if that'll ever happen < 1411261517 414922 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Basically. < 1411261544 186946 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: I am not good at computers < 1411261561 783239 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, basically it has to use less characters than the first formulation (using .size() and explicit loops) < 1411261562 113840 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell it'lö be zipWith (+) val1 val2 < 1411261580 802494 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boom < 1411261584 102707 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any feature that uses more characters has no point < 1411261585 387792 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell won < 1411261587 405949 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next < 1411261603 942101 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell I'm sure has many other problems < 1411261613 178185 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1411261614 246126 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :go home < 1411261622 740573 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell just rocks < 1411261635 157284 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1411261636 501341 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, Haskell is perfection, perfected. < 1411261644 189095 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can haskell implement a filter? < 1411261649 33208 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ example: < 1411261664 751266 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in constructor) memory = 0; < 1411261739 207485 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, haskell has a function called filter ... < 1411261741 74850 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :filter_buffer(float *array, int nb_values) { for(int i=0; i (y - x) * 0.7) 0 < 1411261883 323133 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that's not right. < 1411261891 129122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something for scanl < 1411261898 728259 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1411261902 234288 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that you have to preserve the value < 1411261934 531317 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah yeah, return tuple, big fucking deal < 1411261934 769753 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy, just return a tuple < 1411261939 824060 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1411262029 90034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t scanl (\m a -> m + (a - m) * 0.7) 0 < 1411262030 125452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fractional b => [b] -> [b] < 1411262050 792260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl (\m a -> m + (a - m) * 0.7) 0 [1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4] < 1411262052 873496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,0.7,1.6099999999999999,1.183,1.7549000000000001,2.62647,1.487941,1.8463... < 1411262337 599139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapAccumL -- you may be looking for this < 1411262338 385199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(acc -> x -> (acc, y)) -> acc -> [x] -> (acc, [y]) < 1411262350 1829 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1411262406 287371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's my favorite function which people rarely remember < 1411262413 291816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: wonder if J is similar enough. If you use arrays then entire function uses can end up operating on it < 1411262486 714085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something to make x into (x, x)? < 1411262487 867279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although mostly people just jump straight to the State monad and call it a day. < 1411262518 815152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, other than (\x->(x,x)) or maybe join (,)? < 1411262521 538810 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1411262533 227123 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mapAccumL (\m a -> (\x -> (x, x)) (m + (a - m) * 0.7)) 0 [1,2,3] < 1411262535 190097 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (2.5829999999999997,[0.7,1.6099999999999999,2.5829999999999997]) < 1411262543 628163 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: ^ < 1411262763 318459 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's pretty stupid since the "preserved value" is always just the last element < 1411263057 314999 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:8d78:c55e:aae:1067 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411263274 611031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip runState 0 $ [1,2,3] & traverse %%~ \a -> id <%= \m -> m + (a - m) * 0.7 < 1411263278 586529 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([0.7,1.6099999999999999,2.5829999999999997],2.5829999999999997) < 1411263333 625476 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp much easier :p < 1411263503 389948 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d JOIN :#esoteric < 1411263803 702129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411263825 408571 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411264239 930413 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411265065 908322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1411265131 798433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if Minuteman III nuclear missiles can accept the "AHC" command remotely? < 1411265557 22399 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411265988 903706 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1411266469 113891 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1411266639 954916 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411266653 393390 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411266810 8901 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411267019 749924 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411267026 246092 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411268103 245576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(An article in 2600 says this is the command to tell it to not receive any commands remotely during the next six hours.) < 1411268104 245688 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:8d78:c55e:aae:1067 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411268487 510099 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411268662 846996 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1411268887 137896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1411268989 483247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know when is the equinox. < 1411269024 794363 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21St < 1411269028 816054 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1411269051 654380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my timezone, the equinox is on 22nd < 1411269082 89046 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australia < 1411269097 559803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 19:29 < 1411269196 301119 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you created flogscript, right? < 1411269226 577918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although that was a while ago; there are a few mistakes but now I won't fix them since it would cause incompatibilities < 1411269294 730546 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I ask, what the core difference is between golfscript and flogscript? < 1411269308 746544 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming fs is like gs < 1411269363 622207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FlogScript is probably slower, for one thing. However, there are other differences too; more commands, is completely sandboxed (cannot execute arbitrary PHP or Ruby codes), and a few other differences. < 1411269385 559220 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intended to be even better for golfing than flogscript < 1411269402 628560 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :than golfscript you mean < 1411269402 779150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: And sometimes it is, but other times it isn't. < 1411269408 602937 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than golfscript, yes < 1411269413 963414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1411269454 389354 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now there's gs2 on the scene < 1411269463 896246 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ9+ is the greatest golfing langugae < 1411269469 557989 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1411269476 510083 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1411269483 446687 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1411269490 838348 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1411269494 125076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Only if you are trying to write specific programs, though. < 1411269497 211968 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bott... nvm < 1411269521 456626 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what possible reason could you have to write any other kind of program? < 1411269580 986339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: In case 99 is too much beer and then you will get too much drunk, of course! < 1411269593 45812 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: fair < 1411269611 510081 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me to get around to my magnum opus < 1411269617 774152 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 variations on the 99 bottles song < 1411269648 19977 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 luftballon op die muren < 1411269663 677783 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :over die muren* < 1411270168 176042 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1411270477 842114 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411271200 713709 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I want, I hate decisions < 1411271372 44789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must learn what you want, if in fact you want anything. < 1411271734 433107 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.72.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411271769 848798 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411271816 392563 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.73.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411271987 433040 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.72.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411272094 394905 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.73.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1411272570 846630 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.90.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411274552 328602 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.90.89 QUIT : < 1411275162 398765 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1411276414 102960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411276423 650725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411276763 323312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Varsity has told us that fascination with Jellybabies is a "fetish", and we want to keep Nomicam a clean family game: The speaker shall once and once only go through the rules, changing every mention of the word "jelly baby" - in whatever grammatical form - into the word "sheep" - in the corresponding grammatical form. < 1411277798 363542 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is The Caves of Androzani a good introduction to classic Who? < 1411278503 59405 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411280344 903670 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411280845 773588 :J_Arcane!~j_arcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the episode, sorry. I've mostly watched the original series piecemeal. < 1411280905 993455 :J_Arcane!~j_arcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting with the 4th Doctor and just watching as many as you like is probably a good start, I should think. 4, 5, and 7 mostly got the best stories that survived the BBC Purge. < 1411281697 620777 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywbzugjacidunqvy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1411281759 493194 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'Arcane' < 1411281769 279452 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm :( < 1411281854 758767 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Yes Scotland video I watched was deleted from YouTube < 1411281855 491572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1411282069 587403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you nkow there is a politician in Germany with the actual name of German Hacker? I have a picture on the back of this issue of 2600. < 1411282492 896990 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1411283543 258074 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411283563 808308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411283578 287866 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1411284104 22039 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: although gs2 is "binary" < 1411284119 663280 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not really intended for humans to program in it directly < 1411284209 964167 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: there's also Burlesque btw :P < 1411284221 449000 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I tried writing some code with XVI32 and the results < 1411284248 275069 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are different than when I enter the character equivelant < 1411284249 352346 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-206-135.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1411284264 99061 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(talking about gs2 in anarchy golf) < 1411284274 762326 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked into burlesque < 1411284301 455944 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like CJAM the most as a golf lang. < 1411284320 711416 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anarchy golf doesn't take it yet. < 1411284515 61773 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to invent a language where I take every useful algorith that has ever been documented is assigned a number. < 1411284561 664177 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci sequence? source will: < 1411284571 460899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then what, shifted base 256? < 1411284573 330445 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 1156 < 1411284582 314801 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :voila output fib to n < 1411284613 544216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLQ? < 1411284623 974489 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I don't get greedy with unicode < 1411284635 803370 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLQ ? < 1411284662 972885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variable-Length-Quantity, which is format used in MIDI files for delay amounts < 1411284687 967092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even use UTF-8, although UTF-8 is limited to 36-bits and is not as efficient as VLQ. < 1411284715 923559 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. looking it up. < 1411284977 78304 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1411285003 507777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 should only be used for text with an extended ASCII character set having a lot of character codes (normally Unicode, but anything up to 36-bits is possible). < 1411285045 604665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a small-endian version of VLQ which is called "LEB128". < 1411285067 908519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is exactly the same as VLQ except that it is small-endian. < 1411285189 916142 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My lack of endian awareness is probably why I'm having trouble making my gs2 source work. < 1411285609 348435 :impomatic_!~digital_w@156.248.90.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411285632 330276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411287234 998093 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: gs2 has btw a fibonacci built-in < 1411287278 98260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is rather... not so pleasant < 1411287280 652067 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hello world, and 99 bottles < 1411287289 627201 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda cheathing, I feel. < 1411287294 981245 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1411287297 477912 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's boring < 1411287304 237221 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if somebody looks at the ranking < 1411287315 175981 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sees "WOW. HE CAN DO FIB IN 1 BYTE????!?" < 1411287348 340767 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's ok to add builtins for certain sub-problems of problems < 1411287361 705312 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as those builtins are of "general purpose" < 1411287361 914703 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411287378 658747 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which a fizzbuzz builtin like gs2 has clearly isn't < 1411287392 944857 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually, anything up to any number of bits is possible, there's no 36 bit limit < 1411287469 503204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: search for utf-8 on http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=358307 < 1411287485 180722 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, i think with gs2 we're near the peak of the golf language arms race. < 1411287519 95980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: If you make an extension of UTF-8 (using a byte with value 255, since it is not defined in standard UTF-8) then you can make it, I think. I think someone else in here discussed that once, even. < 1411287543 565376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: doesn't perl allow up to 64 bit character codes in utf-8, as an extension, these days anyway? < 1411287555 354915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's an extension, ordinary unicode goes only up to 34 bit < 1411287561 711376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a logical extension < 1411287572 497485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pattern used for utf-8 just continues fine < 1411287577 975615 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: maybe < 1411287589 591427 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can find a suitable binary encoding for burlesque programs < 1411287601 526928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ordinary Unicode only goes up to 21-bits! < 1411287604 518897 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might even beat gs2 < 1411287619 838658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 then < 1411287620 632666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1411287633 779758 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. put all the most used builtins to a 1 byte command instead of 2 bytes as of now < 1411287639 177501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you extend UTF-8 beyond that (or if you use any overlong encodings), it isn't Unicode anymore! < 1411287654 241871 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will cut some solutions in half < 1411287658 539420 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... gs2 means golfscript 2... < 1411287663 410301 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1411287679 679184 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a "script" anymore though < 1411287689 546257 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just means every command is reduced to one byte < 1411287703 864415 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :golfscript already has 1 byte commands < 1411287707 622973 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque doesn't. < 1411287719 451365 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could one do a straight translation from a golfscript program to gs2 < 1411287720 677037 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1411287725 820539 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so no < 1411287751 189315 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know gs nor gs2 well enough to really state how similar they are < 1411287874 706178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in gs2, what does the empty program do? nop or cat? < 1411287879 861173 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since Burlesque has double as long commands as golfscript has, they are double as powerful < 1411287885 30116 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't know. < 1411287893 205792 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, an error causes gs2 to quine < 1411287948 313256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1411288018 594297 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. If anyone wants to create Binary Burlesque feel free to do so ;) < 1411288023 259955 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'nop': '\x00' < 1411288024 676660 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't do it. < 1411288040 742877 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golfing is merely a side-effect. < 1411288080 655345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't either. I don't see much point in these golfed languages. They're sort of like J, good for simple tasks only, not for big programs. < 1411288096 906600 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :J is good for big programs I think < 1411288104 150407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: some claim that, yes < 1411288107 512532 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1411288108 196187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1411288116 535354 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has modules and probably even GUI stuff etc < 1411288128 16425 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure does. < 1411288128 558421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can use it for real world software < 1411288146 926446 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is something you can't do with gs, gs2, blsq, cjam, fg etc < 1411288158 372920 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably) < 1411288158 647052 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1411288165 623220 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if gs can execute arbitrary ruby code < 1411288175 350073 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it can? < 1411288280 651337 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rb < 1411288368 693359 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, rb was planned but it is not a documented command < 1411288473 674397 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1411289266 134429 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1411291232 977623 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1411291793 190388 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1411292043 198510 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1411292867 398617 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411294502 403771 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :opcode VFMSUBADD321PD is real < 1411294507 355041 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fuck you too then o_O < 1411294647 332494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean? < 1411294667 81009 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOUBLE RAINBOW < 1411295015 173572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Performs a set of SIMD multiply-subtract-add computation on packed double-precision floating-point values using three source vectors/operands, a, b, and c. Corresponding values in two operands, a and b, are multiplied and infinite precision intermediate results are obtained. The odd values in the third operand, c, are subtracted from the intermediate results while the even values are added to ... < 1411295021 159464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... them. The final results are rounded to the nearest float64 values." < 1411295068 418889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "321" denotes something about the operand order, I forget the exact details. < 1411295187 939699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many modern instructions sets are way too insane. I like 6502 instruction set. MMIX is also not quite too bad actually < 1411295219 147514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the Intel manual only mentions VFMSUBADD132, VFMSUBADD213 and VFMSUBADD231. It's possible that 321 is a NASM bug, that's where I took the instruction listings from. < 1411295499 882775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Denoting the subtract-add operation by +-, "VFMSUBADD132PD xmm1, xmm2, xmm3" means "xmm1 = xmm1*xmm3 +- xmm2" and correspondingly 213 -> "xmm1 = xmm2 * xmm1 +- xmm3" and 231 -> "xmm1 = xmm2 * xmm3 +- xmm1". < 1411295589 849812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, in general, VFMSUBADDXYZP xmmX, xmmY, xmmZ -> xmmX = xmmX * xmmY +- xmmZ; the destination register is always the leftmost, but the numbers give the order of the operands in the "a * b +- c" part. < 1411295614 533759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since * is commutative, I guess VFMSUBADD321PD is a reasonable enough alias for VFMSUBADD231PD and so on. < 1411295822 992893 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1411296699 266558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 57 < 1411296699 952225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 57: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1411296761 19007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is not supposed to be bats flying around inside of the blacksmith shop, isn't it? < 1411297104 407568 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/dagit/hs6502/tree/master/src < 1411297296 456277 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ntrstng < 1411298262 639417 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411298281 530261 :AnotherTest_!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1411298288 270356 :AnotherTest_!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1411299267 662393 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411299698 772046 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411299836 994825 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411300825 600963 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1411300826 260580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ c​o​p​p​r​o​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ < 1411300843 867883 :fgdsdhfshd!55cf1236@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.207.18.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411300956 92660 :fgdsdhfshd!55cf1236@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.207.18.54 QUIT :Client Quit < 1411300977 298890 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411301462 715273 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411301601 953390 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411301992 938406 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1411302199 999762 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.89.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411302240 986157 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@62.205.66.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1411303015 663770 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411303678 80622 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411304478 196843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I allow web-based submissions, and if so, should the bot report statistics about them on channel? (It's harded to police those; of course nicks aren't very reliable either, but at least it's a slight disincentive against messing up other people's programs.) < 1411304780 572752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411304796 831656 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.89.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that something that happens; people messing with another's their code? < 1411304846 962908 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.89.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I see quintopia.space_elevator < 1411304884 827853 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.89.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ais523 < 1411304915 49122 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.89.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just seems people are more about claiming the bot than looking into someone elses < 1411304978 907198 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1411305192 998047 :haruka!~haru@p5DDFABF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1411305713 884773 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SWAPPED CHICKEN < 1411306161 293908 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411307495 46921 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1411307625 213901 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411308128 995622 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.89.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1411308724 599825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess. I'd probably prefix all web submissions with 'web~' anyway, if I went that way. < 1411310208 987897 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.73.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411310670 75093 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's nice that people interested in bf joust join the channel. < 1411310854 749510 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FLUMMOXING CHICKEN < 1411310890 39007 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1411310890 575613 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Changing host < 1411310890 726160 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1411311030 645346 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1411311083 375458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1411311092 705026 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411311555 143103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Grace 5* 10New user account < 1411311748 493197 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjngihlfxslrlctp JOIN :#esoteric < 1411311759 924298 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1411312122 741037 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1411312477 436545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Logical14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40509&oldid=32381 5* 03Grace 5* (-4) 10Fixed a typo < 1411313793 833270 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411314266 824304 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge joust < 1411314268 595462 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1411314317 882289 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where both programs are in the same space < 1411314322 886066 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can bombard each other with p < 1411314357 414469 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or scan for enemies with g < 1411314363 399294 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be fun < 1411314371 674646 :J_Arcane!~j_arcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I always wanted to learn CoreWars when I was a kid, but I could never get my head around REDCODE. < 1411314435 256111 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.65.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411314474 629753 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.65.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gregor_furry_furry_strapon_pegging_girls" < 1411314493 781507 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1411314503 445671 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good program < 1411314523 381405 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.65.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep poking < 1411314529 30652 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.73.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411314565 456596 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.65.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what breadcrumb decoys are though < 1411314725 899330 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.65.82 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411314841 150061 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411315004 214736 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.65.82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411315157 487124 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :lawpoker < 1411315190 975108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added a game viewer on the Fancy Website™. < 1411315192 675472 :lawpoker!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1411315207 723297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Permalink buttons don't work yet, and result matrix doesn't link there.) < 1411315212 288483 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411315213 139717 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :lawpoker < 1411315331 88949 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawpokerpokerpok < 1411315337 318235 :lawpokerpokerpok!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1411315350 945750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also disabled the text areas (because I'm not going to set up a server-side permalink facility like real EgoJSout has), but in retrospect maybe people would like to be able to try out things. < 1411315393 630358 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really need a server-side thing? < 1411315404 747457 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess yes because the programs are long? < 1411315502 431372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, even compact URL encodings are probably overly long. < 1411315512 944718 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is the matrix meant to highlight the entire columns/rows? it only does the headers for me < 1411315518 856656 :lawpoker!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :Their < 1411315520 287834 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't terribly useful < 1411315529 491327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's *meant* to, but I didn't get that far yet. < 1411315536 5059 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust AndoDaan_ReadMyOutput (>)*4(+)*33.<(+)*69.<(+)*73.<(+)*68(>)*9((+)*20[-]>(-)*20[+])*-1 < 1411315537 59502 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan_~AndoDaan_ReadMyOutput: points -20.86, score 12.64/100, rank 47/47 < 1411315569 585475 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it bested shudderlock. < 1411315571 942759 :Glaisher!Philon@wikimedia/Glaisher PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1411315581 898008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I guess the dropdowns in the game viewers should be ordered alphabetically and not by ranking.... < 1411315634 20975 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan_: you know you're not meant to include your name twice, right? :p < 1411315655 212904 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, did not notice < 1411315686 343877 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, ReadMyOutput == AndoDaan_ReadMyOutput? < 1411315699 422552 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill appends my naam. < 1411315700 769691 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :== AndoDaan~ReadMyOutput. < 1411315706 369274 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: incidentally, I think . and : are probably the nicest options for nick separation. valid unescaped in filenames and URLs, simple to type on all keyboards, not visually noisy and have relevant associations (namespaces; "nick: msg" on IRC) < 1411315708 225234 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411315723 432698 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have given this more thought than it deserves. < 1411315736 416956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but then I'd have to do the manual renaming once more time. < 1411315745 376472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why I didn't think of '.' earlier, since I kind of like it. < 1411315750 110265 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: rename * 's/~/./' < 1411315755 969402 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does the expression come first < 1411315807 816807 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of like : more, just for the cute pun on IRC nick pings, and because my hierarchical mind would expect "program.author.bfjoust" filename-wise. both seem a lot nicer than ~ though :p < 1411315861 25499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my original dislike for : was that it tab-completes as \:. < 1411315865 380546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very rational reason, I'm sure. < 1411315890 560021 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it does? < 1411315892 951904 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why < 1411315901 963936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. If it has a special meaning, I don't know it. < 1411315907 248900 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't here on zsh, at least < 1411315920 503338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does on bash, but removing the \ (at least in simple cases) does nothing bad. < 1411315920 979779 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one weird thing about : is that on OS X, "foo:bar" shows in graphical applications as foo/bar. < 1411315950 592988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might make things difficult for all the people on Windows systems cloning the repository. < 1411315955 678109 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because of the legacy of Paths:Like:These from classic Mac OS, and maybe because people like to name things with slashes in them?) < 1411315968 381251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: see:you:later < 1411315977 308163 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, Windows is a good point. okay, I throw in my vote for either ., or organising them into directories and using /. < 1411315989 73849 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously we need a survey. < 1411316000 953579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone had voted for "magic" in the scoring survey. < 1411316023 286276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also it's very inconclusive, and I've just been going with the markov one by default.) < 1411316028 17178 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1411316100 796570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually use the comma, because it can't appear in a channel name < 1411316103 427251 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj, ls: < 1411316103 603675 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, done list < 1411316116 731660 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 4*8 < 1411316117 92003 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 32 < 1411316119 613320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] t=: 5 < 1411316119 868443 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |ok < 1411316125 237014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj, ls: < 1411316125 419842 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, open sessions are: b_jonas,#esoteric < 1411316125 570596 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, done list < 1411316127 580828 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly that's the answer. nick,program < 1411316145 237210 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by default, evalj names sessions from nick,channel < 1411316159 73773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nick%program. < 1411316160 738677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it names shared sessions like ,channel < 1411316172 49495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yuo can change the chnanel part to whatever you want, to have multiple sessions < 1411316178 882866 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think nick/program would be by far the nicest visually, but I guess the question is how useful organising things into author directories is. < 1411316189 448192 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have a nice sort of feel to the "program ownership" restrictions, at least. < 1411316291 564298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmaybe, but I don't think I can be bothered to fix the code for that. Not that the "display name" needs to exactly match the file name. < 1411316303 326735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw it, I'll go with the dot, it's safe everywhere and doesn't look like much. < 1411316328 331138 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait! have you considered nick§program? < 1411316343 955353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nickprogram. < 1411316361 296775 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nick✏️program, to denote authorship. < 1411316365 80131 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope you can see emoji.) < 1411316473 203557 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about (Username)FileName.bf < 1411316505 763448 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AndoDaan)ReadMyOutput.bf < 1411316547 328517 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais523)preperation.bf < 1411316569 103342 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on and so forth < 1411316576 684381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a bit visually verbose. < 1411316579 183921 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: oh no... info viewer convention. don't do that. < 1411316595 245859 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a shot. < 1411316600 728503 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411316630 904754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a more evil variant though: Username>Filename < 1411316638 627319 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411316674 853181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just make it change every week. < 1411316677 63780 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why evil? < 1411316753 440796 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you know, on Windows I think foo.bar.bfjoust will show up by default as foo, a BAR.BFJOUST file. < 1411316779 482231 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, past the last dot. < 1411316785 146203 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? < 1411316792 322467 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Windows talks about TAR.GZ files. < 1411316806 421735 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bunch of Gravity.Axxo.whatever.mp4 files < 1411316857 180149 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I am. Yes < 1411316879 915193 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, . is the only option for POSIX "fully portable filenames" (A–Z a–z 0–9 . _ -) if not for directory organisation. < 1411316916 853629 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, also, those have a 14 character limit. :p < 1411316919 556605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07JSFuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40510&oldid=39176 5* 03Grace 5* (+2203) 10Added more information < 1411316977 312372 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend not to care about "fully portable filenames" though. < 1411316993 460033 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we have to use *some* criteria for bikeshedding. < 1411317007 887304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about you just give a fully random filename from some large set of characters < 1411317016 730552 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, just like my passwords. < 1411317050 696932 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :store the warriors as sha512 + .bfjoust, let people use arbitrary unicode text to name them, store the mapping in a sqlite database < 1411317064 521454 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL "bikeshedding" < 1411317087 586962 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then put the whole thing in the blockchain. < 1411317107 300741 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, ooh: submit programs by paying some small amount of bitcoins and including their code in the transaction < 1411317107 508242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Object oriented thue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40511&oldid=36600 5* 034D enthusiast 5* (-90) 10Revised the introduction < 1411317131 622441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about HUserNameFileName where the first character is 64 plus the length of the username? < 1411317134 593716 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i interest you in this artisnal yak hair coat < 1411317157 10544 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then users can use any characters in their username without fearing of conflict with the separator < 1411317188 686233 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about naming the programs after it's Strategy Code. < 1411317268 508099 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the filenames need to be 8.3 < 1411317273 476957 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone remembers the strategy codes? < 1411317302 150237 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dPC?d?D@(!Y)Y(D)Y(D)%>~O2*3\+"==quintopi's space_hotel < 1411317323 965357 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more colourful. < 1411317335 280247 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the sha1 of their contents might work too < 1411317442 681578 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sorry, 8.3 has less than 83 bits of storage space < 1411317444 152651 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1411317446 339513 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence < 1411317461 659639 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a little complicated because of the space handling rules) < 1411317492 33852 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about 82.4 without spaces, 82.5 with unrestricted spaces < 1411317502 359996 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: that depends on what code page you have loaded with MODE CON, for that determines what high characters are allowed < 1411317514 978386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, you can't even open existing filenames with wrong characters < 1411317529 561920 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is that a FAT thing or a DOS thing? < 1411317532 200925 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.3_filename doesn't say anything about that < 1411317534 89026 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: a DOS thing < 1411317540 198423 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, who cares about DOS? < 1411317551 158732 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you use FAT-16 on your workstations? < 1411317553 621827 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, who cares about 8.3 filenames? < 1411317554 875228 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a bit of a Windows thing. < 1411317581 373211 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Windows' Unicode support is moronic. < 1411318066 648485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07JSFuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40512&oldid=40510 5* 03Grace 5* (+459) 10Added list of encoders < 1411318183 955996 :MoALTz_!~no@user-5-173-33-107.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1411318300 227437 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-206-135.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1411318594 584767 :Abramelin!cea29203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.162.146.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411318604 742804 :Abramelin!cea29203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.162.146.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1411318701 319729 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.83.247 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411318764 815087 :Abramelin!cea29203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.162.146.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The great architect of the universe is yourself < 1411318800 442514 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, that's why i'm discordian pope < 1411318929 391372 :Abramelin!cea29203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.162.146.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reality is Chaos right ? < 1411319023 972133 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you too? What a spooky coincidence < 1411319100 111997 :Abramelin!cea29203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.162.146.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2spooky4me < 1411319380 250007 :Abramelin!cea29203@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.162.146.3 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1411319428 869841 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1411320182 970512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07JSFuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40513&oldid=40512 5* 03Grace 5* (+65) 10Found another encoder < 1411320215 248341 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411320269 140127 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys so I know this isn't a esoteric language but you guys have never let me down in the past. I need your help identifying what this is: < 1411320272 305409 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer to this stage is notveryhard < 1411320272 987867 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idaia fidvsc s o.eual o tlsag e rmee"r f nlhnphlhihi oya fw Ffwoeo'r eortfdfpgffitooitnptotnul o tioonhrrlhge bhglyfynbocrrne tlee hlied ooea. ti ys r!yaes. sru s pysnwo,g .ovm btw liTho giu ecue cIerahochrui nryth wht arat earsf" o a < 1411320292 827803 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is a classic cipher but I don't know which one < 1411320323 231603 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again sorry for posting something that is not a esoteric language. I just know you guys are smart and could help < 1411320505 773265 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird spacing. < 1411320608 106477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of a transposition thing in that case, perhaps. < 1411320628 479345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble Since you end up with weird spacing, and punctuation, with those. < 1411320628 630004 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sneyuedu ihwidsaig n ucuto,wt hs.eothi niatnpda,ncp re twp n o ci < 1411320837 520242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a number of "classical" ones based on writing the stuff in a grid or a spiral or whatnot, and reading it out the other way around. < 1411320896 991604 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a hint "Hint, everybody knows it's not length that matters." < 1411320961 60841 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changes every time its generated < 1411320970 850840 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is another version I wnet o eto oh hig hfT sryuehateffa hf o rovh.aovbeoituw pe irea rshrice tIrw sm e lh ahtladiay" elay i yrocgowwf lopss dn iuiifglur hs eccrnnoee ocoti r n"rtndbhurflypei.t golala ophfn saeneldiyttrfgF,n!'ml gosoao o o.t ebhu .srfryt < 1411321075 764922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly identical character frequencies, which is an even stronger clue that it's just a transposition thing. < 1411321101 900217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it always start with "I", by any chance? < 1411321112 900154 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me run another < 1411321118 72666 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering about the count of single-letter words... < 1411321133 813571 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it always starts with I < 1411321150 923233 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'lcslraooh hh"flc tehhywvf.reie.o hh mao ae afs rgaoh lusr bTsf aFtelpawlltddaheoinostleviedr ose rssr, e etn aini ft w any hgbifecmosweyyngoa eeg ar hroooeu t. hylcg ie uut! ph ftooriysrgr h.driIa utyco eo weoostif sp u" eeirnb roh tprttsfl < 1411321159 347378 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another < 1411321166 707044 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iaafds nte la messrhpliioafw, orerffgfe cponl ioryhebgyybcr"oa le oa t.ulye.susps lom t ih Fweu Irhcrioin wtaa asrlgdi ivcs leotsgere"y !nhhh y eog.' otdpfauettu otosrt hlfnori hidoe. eeaas r ysfnv bwlTotfoeceaohu ot h rterarh < 1411321191 80427 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first letter of the sequence is always I < 1411321327 180931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's curious. The first two had exactly identical character counts, but these are slightly different. (Do you happen to know if the plaintext's fixed?) < 1411321412 307257 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's transposition of a single plaintext they wouldn't give that length hit. < 1411321415 300465 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint < 1411321600 252792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be that as it may, it's certainly unlikely to happen by chance that the first two happen to be permutations of each other, if the rest aren't. < 1411321615 338599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the letter frequencies are *very* typical for English, too.) < 1411321695 704798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this where's it from? < 1411321696 473889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I got some regular words out of it simply by line-wrapping it at a certain length and reading it top-to-down. < 1411321738 675046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that from something like http://pythonchallenge.org/ or some similar puzzles? < 1411321748 874918 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's a few plaintexts. < 1411321750 53693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, wrong url < 1411321781 252791 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ < 1411321814 940986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At line length of 22, the starts of the first columns read stuff like "I hope", "don't", "a problem", "ith this I", [ch]"allenge" and so on. < 1411321842 565551 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: its stage two of a crypto challenge < 1411321853 396890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1411321862 592702 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stage one was a ceaser cipher you had to solve in 2 seconds and send the response so I did it up in python < 1411321866 884112 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got past stage two < 1411321875 774281 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got past that to stage two* < 1411321895 476442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it's always a permutation? < 1411321903 878925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1411321934 6642 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can send you my script if you like < 1411321940 864759 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have python installed? < 1411321954 831042 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.71.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411321955 434916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you paste some versions of this cyphertext somewhere? < 1411321961 104563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A caesar cipher is not a permutation. (I mean, of the plaintext. It's a permutation of the alphabet, of course.) < 1411321961 501117 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1411321966 285612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1411321968 743016 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me one sec < 1411322053 561939 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/7xD08sim < 1411322064 596244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1411322080 745007 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1411322084 217359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're not really permutatinos < 1411322090 72630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they ahve different lengths < 1411322137 465540 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after I solve the first part: < 1411322139 907053 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations, you have solved stage 1. You have 9 seconds left. < 1411322140 717991 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's time for something slightly more difficult. Hint, everybody knows it's not length that matters. < 1411322210 609508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though they do look sort of like permutations. let me compute their frequencies < 1411322221 877426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I hope you don't have a problem with this challenge. It should be fairly straight forward if you have done lots of basic crypto. --" < 1411322224 717600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it says. < 1411322231 522727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't quite paste all of it. < 1411322283 683588 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet! fizzie how did you solve it < 1411322298 233126 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the 22 line length < 1411322327 74087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letter frequencies are very similar, the punctuation and capital letters are very similar, but the number of "a" and "e" differ < 1411322333 33516 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... strange < 1411322351 839992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's different amount of columns for the different outputs, it's not always 22. < 1411322366 817482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For your second paste, it's 15. < 1411322394 597609 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean it's padded with extra letters? < 1411322398 913406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to transpose it < 1411322418 636249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just line-wrap it at the right length, and read top-to-bottom instead of left-to-right. < 1411322435 399803 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what tool did you use? ms word? < 1411322437 517173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher#Columnar_transposition except it's not even in scrambled order. < 1411322440 416452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, Journey to the Center of Earth cypher < 1411322446 555168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try < 1411322459 44341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I used vi and a resizable terminal window. < 1411322504 951712 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the second paste on here of pastebin was 15? < 1411322533 969864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the channel. Unless I rearranged them when trying out. < 1411322574 677306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hhKj <- that one, anyway. < 1411322577 561630 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you so much fizzie < 1411322604 581361 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411322745 291318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I get half garbage half real text < 1411322752 478381 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I'm doing something wrong < 1411322868 567937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're using some editor's line-wrapping, it's probably handling e.g. several spaces or words-longer-than-lines somehow specially. < 1411322878 532129 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not < 1411322885 595626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a simple perl script, but using it wrong < 1411322887 541663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to fix it < 1411322903 38134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get stuff like: (I hope you don't have a problem wirg h h ho rnve. It should be fairly straight foartdprcyeoea e done lots of basic crypto. The mo r u sflhr,your efforts is "not not wrong". Fhacosfafl os you will get another challenge!.twiyiireauftg) < 1411322939 46098 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! found the real phrase too < 1411322992 612373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe deco copy-pasted some spaces wrong/ < 1411322996 94 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1411323005 226725 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe (sorry if I did) < 1411323022 412325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it's something on my side < 1411323027 289733 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to figure out how to write an auto solver in python < 1411323041 57883 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to send the solution instantly back to the server < 1411323064 480764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why'd you do that? isn't the magic phrase always the same? < 1411323081 714223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe there's two of them, hmm < 1411323088 775098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not. < 1411323098 471796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the later pastes are different. < 1411323144 945951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the rest of the plaintext -- the "I hope you don't .." and so on -- seems to be the same, so if you don't mind a less elegant solution, you can just try widths from 1 onward until the result starts with that. < 1411323403 331527 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand how it works I just need to figure out how to create a solution in python < 1411324469 212387 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1411324490 384609 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] #t1=:'Imli yh dfcoewhw ru ioibyyrwlpteop ileh uten f of"gytah.f.eohia o tuirvTrF slehtoad y esrnoc d onhsomiyt''atnasohtlreg' < 1411324490 639914 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 125 < 1411324495 934798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#t2=:' ue la i"rrheilcw ango iecvghtpnfheetshnfa . riola foanrl Iofsgteptr e snr wb f,gosaafo ebhrsory!lodir o.eu c tu' < 1411324500 324201 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :160{.,|:_8]\ t=:t1,t2 < 1411324505 44168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 160{.,|:_8]\ t=:t1,t2 < 1411324505 353633 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 160 {. , |: _8 ]\ 'Imli yh dfcoewhw ru ioibyyrwlpteop ileh uten f of"gytah.f.eohia o tuirvTrF slehtoad y esrnoc d onhsomiyt''atnasohtlreg' , t2 < 1411324509 671248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] #t2=:' ue la i"rrheilcw ango iecvghtpnfheetshnfa . riola foanrl Iofsgteptr e snr wb f,gosaafo ebhrsory!lodir o.eu c tu' < 1411324510 78614 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 114 < 1411324512 728346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 160{.,|:_8]\ t=:t1,t2 < 1411324512 991748 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I hope you don't have a problem with this challenge. It should be fairly straight forward if you have done lots of basic crypto. The magic phrase for your effor < 1411324532 723014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(truncated to 160 chars intentionally) < 1411324720 243646 :Their!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1411324810 459994 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :Their < 1411325143 282838 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1411325151 722420 :Their!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1411325190 269756 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1411325218 251300 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1411325247 127472 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1411325623 540323 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you still there? < 1411325634 639173 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to the third and final stage < 1411325640 79770 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WPKLB WZENC ZQNEO WIEPM XUQKM DYAZL WMZMB CJOII ZQVAG CHWZJ OXTHJ OOLPD LVFMP OGHRT LVIXF HEATM QBGGB HUAKG VIUVQ WZABC VBJBA CAEDM UMUHT JNBCC LBYHC ZQBVQ RTXTJ ZRWZR KWWMB VNTSS WEGPQ ZYMRI HAWKM HBGZT HTQMA CSTVV WRWLB HBMRI HAWKM HUAKU HKCGP OADCC LBKPW BQEIF REONK VJICJ EMTXY IVRVB OMVLX IGTYC PIIBK DURRQ HNQKB VRNVV WTGOM ZVNKF HUKWL ZRRZE KBJXZ SAOKF LVIMZ WPKPM NVQPU CEEKC ABVHU OXEJS UMVAI HVTZQ VWNOI PYEZQ KWWEL DEOSY ETACC GGPLR LVUHU SAUIQ HZAKP MZEF < 1411325661 481988 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ïa ïa, shub-niggurath < 1411325718 526767 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :lawpoker < 1411325868 644795 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scotland is interesting < 1411325870 224501 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_proven < 1411325927 670808 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :deco: paste that to somewhere as well because it's long < 1411325951 767903 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.71.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you miss a letter at the end, Deco? < 1411325994 74893 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rgr < 1411325998 574570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is probably not a simple rearrangement cipher nor a single letter substitution cipher, but something more complicated < 1411326068 634004 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: yes I did < 1411326071 937230 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i kind of want to set up a crypto challenge site that's just a bunch of numbers station transcripts. < 1411326082 670746 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and photos of Kryptos and so on < 1411326092 335418 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Kryptos? < 1411326096 660268 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos < 1411326139 301988 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that one < 1411326177 846427 :lawpoker!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1411326232 770718 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.71.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1411326241 981759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing a four-square, since that's what people hit when they think 'something that's not a single-letter substitution'. < 1411326243 900301 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is another one (not missing last chrs < 1411326254 877898 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/H78P9Zpa < 1411326261 571926 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411326464 308487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letters have noticably different frequencies, but not really the frequencies you'd expect from English < 1411326831 300970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old Kasiski test strongly suggests a Vigenère with key length of 7. < 1411326888 390393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a number of repeats with offsets like 28, 392, 91, 182, 539; the gcd of all of those is 7. < 1411326926 698660 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at it now, any idea what the key would be? < 1411327033 185853 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you manually do a Kasiski examination? < 1411327056 317661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just wrote some Perl oneliners. < 1411327090 414620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... | perl -ne 'chomp; $w = 4; for ($at = 0; $at+$w < length($_); $at++) { print substr($_, $at, $w), "\n"; }' | sort | uniq -c | grep -v '^ *1' for a list of repeats and so on. < 1411327153 742766 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411327310 313912 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.74.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411327428 722345 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.70.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1411327448 151460 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411327489 870264 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.74.115 NICK :AndoDaan < 1411327533 946290 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Client Quit < 1411327582 918153 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1411327843 845472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you thinking of this Famicom mapper design? http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/User:Zzo38/Mapper_I < 1411328222 468550 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get any further fizzie? < 1411328257 364287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, I did solve it. < 1411328267 959302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of the challenge if you just ask for solutions? < 1411328314 349032 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so it is vigenere with key size of 7 you said? < 1411328344 274569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. And you get the key directly by observing the character histograms of every 7'th letter -- at all 7 different offsets -- and just checking what the obvious shift is to make those match English. < 1411328385 67910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text is mostly just filler to make it easier to solve. < 1411328430 924608 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the sake of time can you tell me the key? Ill go back and solve it manually later. < 1411328453 526321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the key, and possibly also the key length, is random in different iterations of the problem. < 1411328506 899067 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the one that you solved what was it? < 1411328544 155262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the offsets you need to add are (0, 9, 22, 22, 0, 8, 2). And the plaintext starts (I've added the spaces) "THIS TIME WE WILL GIVE YOU MORE PLAINTEXT TO WORK WITH ..." < 1411328626 648774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, the offsets the ciphertext has had added are (0, 17, 4, 4, 0, 18, 24) and you can subtract those; but I don't think either way the key makes sense as a word, so it's perhaps just random letters. < 1411328695 857959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does say "-- the funny thing is that depending on which random key you get that poem might be exactly the right offset to successfully mount an attack --", which makes it sound a bit like it's random key length, too. < 1411328896 646631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess the key does make sense as a word, since the latter turns into "AREEASY". I just converted the first five letters when looking at it, and "AREEA" didn't seem very word-like. < 1411328908 471622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, maybe that means they have a fixed set of keys they pick from. < 1411330710 307112 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think the magic phrase is in the text? < 1411330725 74062 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rhyme? < 1411331018 645071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the version I got says "let's put the magic phrase for the next level in the middle" "right here" "nothing tricky" "ok" "now more text to make sure that it is solvable". < 1411331027 873213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could solve another instance and see what changed. < 1411331233 644142 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is another instance < 1411331235 437830 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/RMFH99ND < 1411331258 194830 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1411331303 934093 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1411331896 262914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The key for that is "WORDS". < 1411331901 919167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the plaintext seems identical. < 1411332362 987518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a number of javascript web pages where you can paste in ciphertext and it'll do the repeat-offset analysis and provide you with shiftable letter frequencies to slide. < 1411332435 973979 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you send a link? < 1411332614 22690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/vigenere_cracking_tool.html is one of the ones I hit first. Or you could go to http://practicalcryptography.com/cryptanalysis/stochastic-searching/cryptanalysis-vigenere-cipher-part-2/ or, you know, Google. < 1411332618 85121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not entirely sure why you're doing this all, if not for the fun of puzzling it out. < 1411332839 333889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust refresh_report (>)*8(>[-])*21 < 1411332839 713405 :zemhill!bfjoust@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie.refresh_report: points -18.90, score 12.98/100, rank 47/47 < 1411332870 891404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why the report is persistently showing ais523.preparation as "new" in the rank-change field. < 1411333091 271002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh, just a js mishap. < 1411333146 147626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Due to 0 being false.) < 1411333184 374475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, at least I got the .s in. < 1411333368 635880 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1411333507 259637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411333902 466866 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411334020 501308 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1411334252 829792 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: which *lance is it running? < 1411334272 943051 :evalj!~jeval@54000F03.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411334302 870524 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :torquelance? < 1411334310 763378 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1411334329 767934 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what is wrenchlance? < 1411334337 271204 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's documented. < 1411334338 85444 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1411334355 366579 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1411334515 131494 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1411334531 43884 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1411334718 11515 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411334750 136542 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-58.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1411334843 361 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1411335031 715361 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1411335069 213963 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411335070 433091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411335070 682932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411335072 931859 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411335099 51306 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjngihlfxslrlctp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1411335140 545159 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1411335217 966777 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411335396 576449 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411335396 763639 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1411335396 914041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Changing host < 1411335396 914221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1411335422 221537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1411336123 997921 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: btw, the readme still says the bot is written in python < 1411336579 370780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I fixed that, but then I was going to write something else to the README too so didn't commit just that change. < 1411336586 710363 :deco!~deco@192.3.30.211 PART :#esoteric < 1411336596 786982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have no idea why I went all Ruby with it either.) < 1411336744 896358 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1411336980 895408 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad that Haskell is finally starting to catch up to Racket with PatternSynonyms < 1411336986 363227 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1411337026 329694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1411337427 352945 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1411337546 754189 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1411337812 100857 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: heretic! how dare you tell that Haskell is less advanced than any other language! < 1411337820 5107 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, what is a PatternSynonym?) < 1411338087 840465 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1411338090 132287 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allows defining pseudopatterns with pseudoconstructors that expand into other patterns < 1411338124 837935 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So with that plus ViewPatterns, I could define a pattern like GreaterThanFive on Ints < 1411338134 518360 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ooooooh... < 1411338846 325751 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1411338960 439906 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://www.fpcomplete.com/user/icelandj/Pattern%20synonyms < 1411339742 732664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1411339743 418964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 212220Z 31009KT 9999 BKN041 08/03 Q1018 RMK WIND 670FT 32016KT < 1411339750 120506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting chilly < 1411339839 652786 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1411339840 343815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 212200Z 20009KT 15SM FEW040 FEW052 SCT110 BKN240 22/17 A2952 RMK CU1SC2AC2CI2 CU TR SLP996 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1411339860 488945 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twenty two? now the weather's just messing up with me. < 1411342679 983545 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1411343495 410319 :Zuu!~zuu@0x5e911bd1.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1411343520 36844 :Zuu!~zuu@0x5e911bd1.adsl.cybercity.dk NICK :Guest24268