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03:41:53 <Bike> i only just realized C lets you allocate arrays on the stack with runtime lengths
03:45:15 <Bike> yeah i guess that's it
03:46:42 <Bike> i was wondering about alloca and realized it would be like a variable declaration, and i tried it and heyyyyy
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03:53:39 <Bike> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Variable-Length.html forward parameter declarations. very exciting.
03:56:56 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[10000000]; a[sizeof a-1] = 1; return 0; }
03:57:03 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[1000000000]; a[sizeof a-1] = 1; return 0; }
03:57:34 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[1e12]; a[sizeof a-1] = 1; return 0; }
03:57:35 <HackEgo> /tmp/a.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/a.c:1:19: error: size of array ‘a’ has non-integer type
03:57:42 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[(size_t)1e12]; a[sizeof a-1] = 1; return 0; }
03:57:43 <HackEgo> /tmp/a.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/a.c:1:22: error: ‘size_t’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ /tmp/a.c:1:22: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ /tmp/a.c:1:29: error: expected ‘]’ before numeric constant \ /tmp/a.c:1:36: error: ‘a’ undeclared (first use in this funct
03:57:54 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[(long)1e12]; a[sizeof a-1] = 1; return 0; }
03:58:32 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[(long)1e12]; a[sizeof a-1] = rand(); return a[sizeof a-1]; }
03:58:42 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[(long)1e7]; a[sizeof a-1] = rand(); return a[sizeof a-1]; }
03:58:49 <Jafet> `cc int main() { char a[(long)1e6]; a[sizeof a-1] = rand(); return a[sizeof a-1]; }
03:58:56 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ulimit: not found
03:59:03 <Jafet> `bash -c "ulimit -s"
03:59:04 <HackEgo> bash: - : invalid option \ Usage:bash [GNU long option] [option] ... \ bash [GNU long option] [option] script-file ... \ GNU long options: \ --debug \ --debugger \ --dump-po-strings \ --dump-strings \ --help \ --init-file \ --login \ --noediting \ --noprofile \ --norc \ --posix \ --protected \ --rcfile \ --restricted \ --verbose \
03:59:09 <Jafet> `run bash -c "ulimit -s"
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04:39:16 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ echo "$@" > /tmp/a.c && gcc /tmp/a.c -o /tmp/a.out && /tmp/a.out
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06:32:51 <Jafet> I just beat icacls
06:33:18 <Jafet> NTFS would be pretty on-topic here
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07:05:07 <lambdabot> oerjan said 8h 21m ago: I'm just reading your haskell golfing tips and i'd just like to point out that c/=5||odd x can be shortened to 1>0 hth
07:05:41 <oerjan> also i made a couple attempts on the two latest problems
07:07:01 <oerjan> (i guess i also tried PATH but just found a solution of the same lengths as everyone else, it's probably pretty unique)
07:08:40 <mroman_> fizzie: Oh. I see teebee got 22B
07:09:01 <mroman_> teebee is recently golfing *a lot*
07:10:13 <fizzie> I noticed. I don't have any obvious below-25 ideas.
07:14:46 <fizzie> (Possibly what I have is a local minimum, and needs something quite different to get smaller.)
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07:24:26 <fizzie> A hypothetical deepzip2'ing subtraction and a m[p^ shorthand would get me to 21, but neither of those two things exist, and I can't think of a way to use m[^p aka MP without including any extra instructions.
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07:26:52 <fizzie> Aw, now it times out. (It was right on the border there already, to be fair.)
07:27:36 <fizzie> Well, maybe a working 25 and a too-slow 23 will have to be enough, I should be doing other stuff.
07:32:21 <fizzie> (Or perhaps I just need a better cumulative-sum idiom, I can't seem to write that short.)
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07:55:58 <mroman_> have you tried submitting the too-slow one multiple times?
07:56:11 <mroman_> execution times fluctuates depending on server-load and stuff
07:56:18 <fizzie> I tried twice, I think it's just too slow.
07:57:34 <mroman_> if MP produces the wrong order
07:57:42 <mroman_> maybe you can change the order of the list you're mapping over
07:58:00 <mroman_> but if that requires a <- (reverse list) etc. you might as well just write m[p^
07:58:13 <fizzie> Yeah, I couldn't figure out to do it without a <-.
08:00:55 <mroman_> teebee's execution times suggests that there must be a really efficient way of doing it
08:01:30 <fizzie> My 27-character one had the same execution time.
08:01:51 <mroman_> There's C! and !C for that matter
08:01:54 <fizzie> That one used !C but there was a lot of space wasted with PP'y stuff.
08:02:35 <fizzie> This new one is really stupid, which probably explains the execution time.
08:03:51 <fizzie> The 25- and 23-length ones.
08:04:45 <oerjan> fizzie: did you get the message someone sent you to change the wiki captcha?
08:04:58 <oerjan> it seems to me that spammers are still managing to register
08:05:36 <fizzie> oerjan: Right, I should probably do something about it.
08:05:56 <fizzie> oerjan: No spam articles, though, just user accounts? Or do those not show up in recent changes?
08:07:51 <oerjan> just accounts, i think ais523 managed to improve the filter for the articles
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08:09:20 <mroman_> that's pretty bad of me I guess
08:10:48 <oerjan> last time they got any actual spam through seems to be sep 25
08:12:02 <fizzie> mroman_: I have a 9-character "X terms from A006519" core, let's call it ZZZ, but I don't know of any good tricks for the partial sums, so I just wrapped the whole thing inside ,500ro{ZZZ++}m[p^ which makes it 14+9=23 and also too slow. (The fast 28-length one used a manual PP+.JPp inside a !C block to make a counter to replace the range, and simply .+'d to the previous sum, but that took many ...
08:12:08 <fizzie> ... characters. And same for a similar thing that mapped over a range and accumulated with pP.+Pp and swapped in the end.)
08:14:27 <mroman_> you could use 500{ZZZ++}GOp^
08:14:36 <mroman_> which would be 2 bytes shorter
08:14:43 <mroman_> but it's probably not faster :)
08:16:07 <mroman_> <num>ro<block>m[ is <num><block>GO
08:17:57 <blsqbot> {{1} {2} {3} {4} {5} {6} {1 2} {2 3} {3 4} {4 5} {5 6} {1 2 3} {2 3 4} {3 4 5} {
08:18:17 <fizzie> mroman_: The documentation says GO does 1\/R@ but I guess that's r@ in reality?
08:19:50 <blsqbot> {{} {1} {2} {1 2} {3} {1 3} {2 3} {1 2 3} {4} {1 4} {2 4} {1 2 4} {3 4} {1 3 4}
08:19:52 <fizzie> Well, it's 21 characters but too slow. :)
08:20:44 <fizzie> At least I managed to improve my barely-working 25 to a 23 with that GO trick.
08:21:12 <mroman_> {1 2 3 4 5 6}=>{1 {1 2} {1 2 3 4} ...} is what you'd need
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08:21:18 <mroman_> but I don't know of any way to do that
08:21:22 <mroman_> and it probably will be slow :)
08:21:35 <mroman_> (because the resulting list will be huge I guess)
08:22:03 <mroman_> It really sounds like using C! or !C
08:22:19 <blsqbot> {ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid arguments! ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid argume
08:22:27 <blsqbot> {287 177 109 67 41 25 15 9 5 3 1 1}
08:22:59 <blsqbot> {233 144 89 55 34 21 13 8 5 3 2 1}
08:23:15 <blsqbot> {1536 768 384 192 96 48 24 12 6 3 2 1}
08:24:00 <blsqbot> {1024 512 256 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1 1}
08:24:27 <mroman_> fizzie: But that would indeed require PP stuff for the counter :(
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08:25:54 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4 5 6}{[-}5!C#s
08:25:55 <blsqbot> {{1 2 3 4 5 6} {2 3 4 5 6} {3 4 5 6} {4 5 6} {5 6} {6}}
08:26:00 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4 5 6}{[~}5!C#s
08:26:23 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4 5 6}{~]}5!C#s
08:26:24 <blsqbot> {{1 2 3 4 5 6} {1 2 3 4 5} {1 2 3 4} {1 2 3} {1 2} {1}}
08:26:33 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4 5 6}{~]}5!CCL
08:26:34 <blsqbot> {{1 2 3 4 5 6} {1 2 3 4 5} {1 2 3 4} {1 2 3} {1 2} {1}}
08:26:37 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4 5 6}{~]}5C!CL
08:26:38 <blsqbot> {{1} {1 2} {1 2 3} {1 2 3 4} {1 2 3 4 5} {1 2 3 4 5 6}}
08:26:52 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4 5 6}{~]}5C!CL)++
08:27:45 <mroman_> just generate the list with the 500 items
08:28:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Mang]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40566&oldid=40564 * Oerjan * (+170) some proofreading
08:29:18 <blsqbot> {1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55}
08:29:24 <blsqbot> Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
08:29:42 <mroman_> but it might be too slow still :(
08:31:03 <fizzie> ",500" plus 9 characters for the list + "{~]}500C!CL)++" is also longer than my current-best.
08:33:02 <oerjan> doesn't burlesque have scanl
08:33:15 <mroman_> 500ro{~]}499C!CL)++ runs in 0.4s on anagol though
08:34:35 <mroman_> oerjan: I don't think so, no
08:35:19 <blsqbot> {ERROR: Burlesque: (./) Invalid arguments! ERROR: Burlesque: (./) Invalid argume
08:35:28 <fizzie> > scanl1 (+) [1,2,1,4,1,2,1,8]
08:35:33 <fizzie> That would certainly help.
08:35:41 <oerjan> mroman_: can burlesque do fixpoints? (i guess not)
08:36:01 <mroman_> oerjan: finding fixpoints?
08:36:02 <oerjan> fizzie: well it's what i used in my length 55 haskell version
08:38:46 <oerjan> mroman_: you can write scanl (+) x xs as fix (zipWith (+) xs . (x:)) or thereabouts
08:39:05 <oerjan> > fix (zipWith (+) [1..] . (0:))
08:39:06 <lambdabot> [1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,276...
08:39:29 <blsqbot> {1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55}
08:39:50 <mroman_> but it doesn't have a fix builtin
08:40:42 <blsqbot> {144 288 432 576 720 864 1008 1152 1296 1440 0 0 0 0 0}
08:40:50 <blsqbot> {{144 288 432 576 720 864 1008 1152 1296 1440 0 0 0 0 0} {89 178 267 356 445 534
08:40:58 <blsqbot> {{3 6 9 12 15 0} {2 4 6 8 10 0} {1 2 3 4 5} {1 2 3 4 5}}
08:41:08 <blsqbot> {{0 1 4 7 10 13} {0 2 4 6 8 10} {1 2 3 4 5} {1 2 3 4 5}}
08:41:32 <blsqbot> {{0 1 4 7 10 13 16} {0 2 4 6 8 10} {1 2 3 4 5}}
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08:41:48 <blsqbot> ERROR: (line 1, column 20):
08:41:52 <blsqbot> {{1 3 6 9 12 15 18} {1 3 5 7 9 11} {1 2 3 4 5}}
08:42:43 <blsqbot> {{1 3 6 10 14 18 22 26} {1 3 6 9 12 15 18} {1 3 5 7 9 11} {1 2 3 4 5}}
08:43:38 <blsqbot> {{1 3 6 10 15 21 27 33 39 45} {1 3 6 10 15 20 25 30 35} {1 3 6 10 14 18 22 26} {
08:43:51 <blsqbot> {{1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55 66 78 91 105 120 136 153 171 190 210 231 253 276 30
08:44:22 <blsqbot> {{1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55 66 78 91 105 120 136 153 171 190 210 231 253 276 30
08:44:48 <mroman_> !blsq q1{{0+]1R@?+}c!}{L[20.<}w!
08:44:49 <blsqbot> {1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55 66 78 91 105 120 136 153 171 190 210}
08:45:12 <mroman_> !blsq q1{{0+]1R@?+}c!}{}w!10.+
08:45:12 <blsqbot> ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid arguments!
08:45:19 <mroman_> !blsq q1{{0+]1R@?+}c!}{1}w!10.+
08:45:20 <blsqbot> Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
08:45:23 <mroman_> !blsq q1{{0+]1R@?+}c!}{1}w!20.+
08:45:24 <blsqbot> Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
08:45:29 <mroman_> it's not lazy anymore though
08:45:55 <mroman_> !blsq q1{{0+]1R@?+}c!}{L[200000000.<}w!10.+
08:45:56 <blsqbot> Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
08:46:02 <mroman_> !blsq q1{{0+]1R@?+}c!}{L[25.<}w!
08:46:03 <blsqbot> {1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55 66 78 91 105 120 136 153 171 190 210 231 253 276 300
08:46:57 <mroman_> this would make for a good new command
08:47:29 <mroman_> more like <continueAsLong>
08:48:34 <mroman_> but not sure how to implement that
08:49:07 <mroman_> other than using init + continuation plus map
08:52:03 <mroman_> fizzie: ideally you would do <first term>{<next term>?+}<num times>C!
08:55:35 <fizzie> That's pretty much what my "fast" thing does, except for needing the index for <next term>. (I did try something zi-based, but that went nowhere.)
08:57:10 <fizzie> oerjan: 55 is quite impressive, it took me 83 characters with all the boilerplate of going from [1,2,3,4] to a main function that can print 1 2 3 4. Though maybe there are well-established tricks there.
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09:05:09 <oerjan> fizzie: that boilerplate is well-established, it's main=mapM print
09:05:52 <oerjan> (mentioned on mroman_'s tip page)
09:06:40 <oerjan> hm actually just the mapM part
09:09:47 <oerjan> i am somewhat proud of the way i got the infinite [1,2,1,4,...] list though
09:10:39 <oerjan> (defined as l in 19 characters)
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09:12:25 <fizzie> 22 characters here to do that, even without counting an "import Data.Bits"; I think I'm overly fond of the way I did it in my Forth thing.
09:13:49 <oerjan> actually 22 characters is what it was in my first version
09:14:46 <fizzie> Probably someone with a late-alphabet nick is going to make a 30-character Forth version; I've looked at some examples of those, and have no idea why they even work. There's stuff like "[begin] ..." with no loop-termination in sight, and at least the way I run gforth locally balks on that.
09:16:16 <oerjan> elliott_: http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?A006520
09:16:28 <oerjan> some are doing it in burlesque, i did it in haskell
09:16:56 <oerjan> oh i guess fizzie also did forth
09:17:11 <fizzie> Yes, with better success. Possibly because no-one else has tried yet.
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09:18:13 <fizzie> And I guess my C solution is only one character off.
09:18:30 <oerjan> > length "import Data.Bits"
09:18:44 <fizzie> Don't forget the newline. (I guess those count?)
09:18:52 <oerjan> looks like that's costing you a lot
09:19:12 <oerjan> i'm assuming they do, except a final one maybe
09:19:25 <oerjan> (i submitted mine as a one-liner though)
09:19:39 <fizzie> Have to get busy to catch a plane now.
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09:23:12 <oerjan> YOU DIDN'T FIX THE CAPTCHA FIRST
09:23:38 <elliott_> I guess only in the sense that britannica.com dates back to 1768
09:27:31 <elliott_> "Windows 10" you're kidding me
09:28:19 <elliott_> it is telling that searching that name produces http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft-windows/microsoft-windows-microsoft-skips-too-good-windows-9-jumps-to-windows-10.html near the top
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09:30:20 <oerjan> the first rule of commercial version number schemes is that you have to change them frequently
09:30:30 <mroman_> I didn't even consider mapM print as something special
09:30:36 <mroman_> because it appears so natural to do that
09:30:48 <elliott_> oerjan: okay but they already had windows 7 which wasn't the seventh version with any reasonable counting
09:31:39 <elliott_> well, it's not as bad as xbox one
09:33:19 <Patashu> has anyone made a 'because windows 7 8 9' joke yet
09:34:43 <oerjan> windows 10 now supporting cannibalism
09:52:15 <mroman_> Somebody should standardize LON
09:54:05 <mroman_> {'foo' : {'age': 19, 'name' : 'Hans' } } vs (foo((age 19)(name "Hans")))
09:54:36 <mroman_> (foo (age 19) (name "Hans")) actually
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10:28:53 <fizzie> oerjan: I'll do it in the evening from the hotel, maybe.
10:30:25 <fizzie> Or tomorrow evening at the latest.
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10:58:47 <Jafet> http://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/48632/can-a-night-elf-swim-naked-in-a-volcano
11:02:20 <boily> it's at least proven to be feasible according to 3.5E.
11:05:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * JasperZwujylt * New user account
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13:52:32 <mroman_> why the fuck is my ajax responseText empty
13:52:43 <mroman_> the browser does make the request on my webserver
13:52:50 <mroman_> but it refuses to read the response
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14:07:11 <mroman_> also my apache2 doesn't want to send my CORS header
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14:21:01 <GeekDude> if you ever want a fun problem, try piping sound from espeak to the browser directly. ie, php passthru instead of write to a file then serving the file
14:21:15 <GeekDude> I say "fun", but what I mean is that it just doesn't work :/
14:21:30 <GeekDude> it kind of works, but it's really really broken
14:21:37 <GeekDude> and inconsistent between browsers
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14:38:27 <mroman_> http://codepad.org/XVIdgaT9
14:39:13 <mroman_> by that logic a 5 char password is super secure
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14:41:33 <mroman_> I don't get extra points for NULL bytes in my password?
14:42:00 <mroman_> I like spaces in my passwords
14:42:16 <mroman_> sometimes my password is a whitespace program .
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14:44:03 <HackEgo> password is XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR
14:44:53 <HackEgo> XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR Who told you this?
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14:57:26 <mroman_> You mean the pre-processor thingy from AnotherTest?
14:58:52 <mroman_> (http://esolangs.org/wiki/HELP_%28Preprocessor%29 that is)
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15:22:39 <elliott_> http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2014/computers_are_made_of_metal.html this article is upsetting
15:22:50 <elliott_> "scala's implementation is bad therefore fp is slow"
15:23:56 <elliott_> I guess I shouldn't link articles just because they're irritating just to spread my suffering.
15:23:56 <Bike> psh, several parts of computers aren't metal
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15:36:49 <mroman_> If people cared about speed applications would be much faster than they wore 1998 on Windows 98
15:37:29 <mroman_> Starting eclipse really convinces me that stuff has gotten faster with faster CPUs .
15:39:17 <mroman_> I guess it's the same deal as faster trains
15:39:25 <mroman_> faster trains doesn't cut down on commuting times
15:39:40 <mroman_> it just makes people commute to places more far away
15:40:38 <mroman_> (Although lot's of stuff is really fast today)
15:41:47 <AndoDaan> Just watched a talk on fortran. They went 3 years past the deadline to make the most efficient fortran compiler they could.
15:46:52 <AndoDaan> I got an email on burlesqu progressed. c!... what's that all about.
15:47:41 <blsqbot> {1 {1 {1 {1 {1 {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10}} {1} {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10}} {1 {1} {1 2 3
15:48:33 <blsqbot> That line gave me an error
15:48:44 <blsqbot> {{1} 1 {1 2} 1 2 {1 3} 1 3 {1 2 4} 1 2 4 {1 5} 1 5 {1 2 3 6} 1 2 3 6 {1 7} 1 7 {
15:49:38 <blsqbot> {ERROR: Burlesque: ([~) Invalid arguments! **}
15:50:01 <blsqbot> {1 {1} 1 2 {1 2} 1 3 {1 3} 1 2 4 {1 2 4} 1 5 {1 5} 1 2 3 6 {1 2 3 6} 1 7 {1 7} 1
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18:19:15 <Melvar> That certainly used to work, I wonder what broke the coloring there.
18:20:41 <Melvar> It’s meant for labels apparently.
18:21:07 <Melvar> Possibly only certain kinds, since you can’t decide their equality within the language.
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18:59:55 <mroman_> Then there's always a challenge
19:00:03 <mroman_> what's the "pm" command good for?
19:00:37 <mroman_> but not the trivial cases with integers
19:00:48 <mroman_> the ultimative edge case for it
19:03:40 <mroman_> also try being bored in a psychiatric clinic while sleep deprived
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19:05:58 <mroman_> fizzie: Could you add a time stamp to the scores?
19:06:14 <mroman_> so I know when it was last updated
19:06:37 <elliott_> (well, "psychiatric clinic" may give excessively straitjacket type connotations, but it was a mental health facility)
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19:07:39 <mroman_> ironically it just worsens the symptonms
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19:08:00 <mroman_> or whatever is the correct spelling for that
19:08:01 <elliott_> well, I'm not going to universalise my experience.
19:11:22 <Bike> it's a hard word
19:11:31 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*4>(-)*5)*4>([(-)*6[-]])*-1
19:11:32 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -31.43, score 3.50, rank 47/47
19:11:43 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*4>(-)*5)*4>([(-)*6[+]])*-1
19:11:43 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -31.95, score 3.41, rank 47/47 (--)
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19:12:02 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*4>(-)*5)*4>(>[(-)*6[-]])*-1
19:12:02 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -24.90, score 6.17, rank 47/47 (--)
19:12:06 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*4>(-)*5)*4>(>[(-)*6[+]])*-1
19:12:07 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -25.12, score 6.11, rank 47/47 (--)
19:12:20 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*4>(-)*5)*4([(-)*6[-]]>)*-1
19:12:21 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -17.00, score 7.58, rank 47/47 (--)
19:12:26 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*4>(-)*5)*4([(-)*9[-]]>)*-1
19:12:28 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -17.74, score 7.16, rank 47/47 (--)
19:12:45 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*2>(-)*2)*4([(-)*6[-]]>)*-1
19:12:47 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -14.83, score 8.20, rank 47/47 (--)
19:13:18 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*20>(-)*20)*4([(-)*6[-]]>)*-1
19:13:19 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -17.02, score 8.33, rank 47/47 (--)
19:13:27 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox ((+)*10>(-)*10)*4([(-)*6[-]]>)*-1
19:13:28 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -17.14, score 7.83, rank 47/47 (--)
19:13:35 <mroman_> it's getting harder to get on the hill
19:13:41 <Bike> «from συν- (sun-, “together”) + πίπτω (píptō, “I fall”)», that's fairly metal
19:14:23 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(++++<-----<)*4(>)*8([(-)*6[-]]>)*-1
19:14:24 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -18.00, score 6.84, rank 47/47 (--)
19:14:32 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(++++<-----<)*4(>)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:14:33 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -18.02, score 7.11, rank 47/47 (--)
19:14:38 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(++++<-----<)*4(>)*9([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:14:39 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -22.10, score 6.88, rank 47/47 (--)
19:14:56 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++++++<-----<)*4(>)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:14:56 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -20.86, score 7.01, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:07 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++++++<-------<)*4(>)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:08 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -19.98, score 7.37, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:17 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++++++<-------<)*4(>-)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:18 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -19.57, score 7.49, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:24 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++++++<-------<)*4(>(-)*10)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:26 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -17.57, score 7.76, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:30 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++++++<-------<)*4(>(-)*100)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:31 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -21.00, score 7.35, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:38 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++++++<-------<)*4(>(-)*50)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:38 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -19.45, score 7.55, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:48 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>)*9(+++<---<)*4(>(-)*50)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:49 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -20.71, score 7.46, rank 47/47 (--)
19:15:54 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>--)*9(+++<---<)*4(>(-)*50)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:15:55 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -20.29, score 7.55, rank 47/47 (--)
19:16:21 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>-)*9(+++<----<)*4(>(-)*50)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:16:22 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -19.21, score 7.99, rank 47/47 (--)
19:16:27 <mroman_> !bfjoust fox (>-)*9(+++++<----<)*4(>(-)*50)*8([(-)*6[-].]>)*-1
19:16:28 <zemhill> mroman_.fox: points -19.62, score 7.78, rank 47/47 (--)
19:17:21 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>-)*9(>[(+)*9[-].])*-1
19:17:22 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -9.57, score 13.01, rank 45/47
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19:18:00 <mroman_> now cupnoodles went to rank 4
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19:18:36 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>-)*9(>[(+)*9[-].]+)*-1
19:18:37 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -6.02, score 15.56, rank 41/47 (+4)
19:18:43 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>-)*9(>[(+)*9[-].](+)*5)*-1
19:18:44 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -10.26, score 12.97, rank 45/47 (-4)
19:18:47 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>-)*9(>[(+)*9[-].](+)*2)*-1
19:18:48 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -7.57, score 14.68, rank 44/47 (+1)
19:18:51 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>-)*9(>[(+)*9[-].](+)*1)*-1
19:18:52 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -6.02, score 15.56, rank 41/47 (+3)
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19:19:07 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].](+)*1)*-1
19:19:07 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.81, score 16.56, rank 34/47 (+7)
19:19:30 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>+[(+)*9[-].](+)*1)*-1
19:19:30 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -16.57, score 9.30, rank 47/47 (-13)
19:19:53 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*-1
19:19:53 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.88, score 16.58, rank 34/47 (+13)
19:19:55 <Gregor> Is that "rush it" or "r u shit"?
19:20:07 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(-)*9[+].]-)*-1
19:20:07 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.50, score 16.52, rank 36/47 (-2)
19:20:13 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]--)*-1
19:20:14 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -7.12, score 14.87, rank 44/47 (-8)
19:20:18 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*-1
19:20:18 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.88, score 16.58, rank 34/47 (+10)
19:20:48 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*4
19:20:48 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -21.83, score 7.07, rank 47/47 (-13)
19:20:53 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*5
19:20:53 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -18.86, score 8.44, rank 47/47 (--)
19:20:56 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*6
19:20:56 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -16.33, score 9.64, rank 47/47 (--)
19:20:59 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*7
19:21:00 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -13.48, score 11.14, rank 47/47 (--)
19:21:02 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*8
19:21:02 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -10.67, score 12.77, rank 46/47 (+1)
19:21:05 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*9
19:21:05 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -7.93, score 14.50, rank 44/47 (+2)
19:21:08 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*10
19:21:09 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.88, score 16.58, rank 34/47 (+10)
19:21:21 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*9
19:21:21 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -7.93, score 14.50, rank 44/47 (-10)
19:21:44 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*9(<--)*18(>)*18([-]>)*-1
19:21:44 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -7.29, score 14.98, rank 43/47 (+1)
19:21:52 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*10
19:21:53 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.88, score 16.58, rank 34/47 (+9)
19:22:08 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit +(>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*10
19:22:08 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -5.40, score 16.41, rank 39/47 (-5)
19:22:13 <mroman_> !bfjoust rushit (>->+)*4>-(>[(+)*9[-].]+>[(+)*9[-].]-)*10
19:22:14 <zemhill> mroman_.rushit: points -4.88, score 16.58, rank 34/47 (+5)
19:22:16 <blsqbot> ERROR: Unknown command: (ru)!
19:22:20 <blsqbot> ERROR: Unknown command: (ou)!
19:22:29 <blsqbot> ERROR: Unknown command: (ey)!
19:22:48 <blsqbot> ERROR: Unknown command: (ar)!
19:22:55 <blsqbot> ERROR: Unknown command: (ey)!
19:22:57 <blsqbot> ERROR: Unknown command: (ou)!
19:22:58 <AndoDaan_> [21:06] <mroman_> so I know when it was last updated
19:22:58 <AndoDaan_> [21:06] <mroman_> elliott_: what for?
19:22:58 <AndoDaan_> [21:06] <elliott_> (well, "psychiatric clinic" may give excessively straitjacket type connotations, but it was a mental health facility)
19:22:58 <AndoDaan_> [21:06] <elliott_> mroman_: "being fucked up"
19:22:58 <AndoDaan_> [21:06] * incomprehensibly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
19:23:26 <elliott_> are you posting my medical history to esoleaks
19:23:39 <mroman_> I still don't know why I added pm to Burlesque
19:24:44 <mroman_> What's currently the best way to detect primes?
19:24:53 <AndoDaan_> teebee must write code like a robot.
19:25:53 <mroman_> fcL[2== is the only way for "isprime" I know of
19:26:09 <AndoDaan_> been going at the last AG problem for an hour or so.
19:26:56 <blsqbot> ERROR: Burlesque: (~[) Invalid arguments!
19:27:36 <mroman_> ok. Jfcj~[ is one byte shorter
19:29:03 <blsqbot> ERROR: Burlesque: (~[) Invalid arguments!
19:29:55 <blsqbot> {2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67 71 73 79 83 89 97 101 103
19:30:41 <blsqbot> {3 4 6 8 12 14 18 20 24 30 32 38 42 44 48 54 60 62 68 72 74 80 84 90 98 102 104
19:31:07 <blsqbot> {3 4 6 8 12 14 18 20 24 30 32 38 42 44 48 54 60 62 68 72 74 80 84 90 98 102 104
19:31:12 <mroman_> !blsq 200ro{JfCj~[}f[?iJ2?-
19:31:12 <blsqbot> {1 2 4 6 10 12 16 18 22 28 30 36 40 42 46 52 58 60 66 70 72 78 82 88 96 100 102
19:31:20 <mroman_> !blsq 200ro{JfCj~[}f[?iJ2?-UN
19:31:21 <blsqbot> {3 4 6 8 12 14 18 20 24 30 32 38 42 44 48 54 60 62 68 72 74 80 84 90 98 102 104
19:31:25 <mroman_> !blsq 200ro{JfCj~[}f[?iJ2?-UN<>
19:31:25 <blsqbot> {200 198 196 194 192 190 182 180 178 174 172 168 166 164 162 158 156 152 150 148
19:31:28 <mroman_> !blsq 200ro{JfCj~[}f[?iJ2?-UN><
19:31:28 <blsqbot> {1 2 3 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 28 30 32 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 52 54 58 60 6
19:31:39 <mroman_> !blsq 256ro{JfCj~[}f[?iJ2?-UN><
19:31:40 <blsqbot> {1 2 3 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 28 30 32 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 52 54 58 60 6
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19:32:55 <mroman_> there's room for lots of improvements
19:33:32 <blsqbot> {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20}
19:33:37 <blsqbot> {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20}
19:33:44 <blsqbot> {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20}
19:33:57 <blsqbot> {ERROR: Burlesque: (~[) Invalid arguments! {} 1 ERROR: Burlesque: (~[) Invalid a
19:34:02 <blsqbot> {0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0}
19:35:02 <blsqbot> {2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20}
19:35:15 <blsqbot> {1 4 6 8 9 10 12 14 15 16 18 20}
19:35:47 <blsqbot> {1 4 6 8 9 10 12 14 15 16 18 20}
19:35:54 <mroman_> that's the list of non-primes
19:35:58 <mroman_> (is there a challenge for that :D?)
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20:12:34 <mroman_> !blsq 20ro20ro{fCL[?d}f[\\
20:12:54 <blsqbot> {1 4 6 8 9 10 12 14 15 16 18 20 21 22 24 25 26 27 28 30 32 33 34 35 36 38 39 40}
20:13:12 <mroman_> it's union prime+1, prime-
20:14:03 <mroman_> AndoDaan_: you tried regex for A045718?
20:14:34 <mroman_> that command does not exist
20:14:38 <mroman_> I wanted a command that does
20:14:49 <mroman_> {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0}<command> and it will return {2 3}
20:16:09 <blsqbot> {0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0}
20:16:14 <blsqbot> {0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0}
20:16:17 <blsqbot> {0 2 3 0 5 0 7 0 0 0 11 0 13 0 0 0 17 0 19 0}
20:16:28 <blsqbot> {0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0}
20:16:34 <mroman_> !blsq 20roJ{JfCj~[}m[)n!?*
20:16:34 <blsqbot> {1 0 0 4 0 6 0 8 9 10 0 12 0 14 15 16 0 18 0 20}
20:16:59 <mroman_> !blsq 20roJ{JfCj~[}m[)n!?*{}f[
20:16:59 <blsqbot> {1 4 6 8 9 10 12 14 15 16 18 20}
20:17:59 <mroman_> ^- This is actualy what people complaining about golfing languages don't understand
20:18:20 <mroman_> they complain that they always win
20:18:36 <ais523> well, that's unsurprising, really
20:18:37 <mroman_> I guess they think it's trivial to produce a short solution in it
20:18:57 <ais523> if you had Haskell where all the standard library functions were Huffman-coded
20:19:12 <ais523> it'd do almost as well as the golfing languages, except for I/O
20:19:18 <mroman_> maybe even a sucky burlesque golf solution is better than a haskell solution
20:19:36 <ais523> the {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0} thing is easy enough to do in most functional languages
20:19:42 <mroman_> but it's still hard to write good burlesque solutions
20:19:48 <ais523> but it's going to be quite long written out
20:19:56 <ais523> presumably burlesque is doing the same thing, just with fewer characters
20:20:10 <ais523> @djinn [a] -> [b] -> [(a,b)]
20:20:17 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0}z[
20:20:27 <ais523> hmm, how much Haskell have I forgotten in the last several years?
20:20:29 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0}z[{1!!}f[
20:20:32 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0}z[{1!!}f[u[
20:20:38 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0}z[{1!!}f[)-]
20:20:55 <ais523> @hoogle [a] -> [b] -> [(a,b)]
20:20:57 <mroman_> you can do it with z[{1!!}f[)-] I guess
20:20:58 <lambdabot> Prelude zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)]
20:20:58 <lambdabot> Data.List zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)]
20:20:58 <lambdabot> Data.ByteString.Builder.Prim (>*<) :: Monoidal f => f a -> f b -> f (a, b)
20:21:02 <ais523> right, it is called zip
20:21:06 <mroman_> because you have to unzip after the filter
20:21:32 <mroman_> > filter (\(a,b) -> b == 1) $ zip [1,2,3,4] [0,1,1,0]
20:21:39 <mroman_> > map fst . filter (\(a,b) -> b == 1) $ zip [1,2,3,4] [0,1,1,0]
20:22:00 <ais523> mroman_: right, that's what I was writing
20:22:07 <mroman_> ais523: I just meant that people saying that it's trivial to golf in $golflanguage are morons
20:22:19 <mroman_> it depends on the challenge
20:22:38 <mroman_> "remove multiple occurences of characters"
20:22:39 <fizzie> > filter (>0) $ zipWith (*) [1,2,3,4] [0,1,1,0] -- for nonzero data
20:23:15 <mroman_> fizzie: you mean for nonzero data and Num a=>
20:23:30 <mroman_> !blsq {1 2 3 4}{0 1 1 0}?*{}f[
20:23:49 <mroman_> (you can use {}f[ here because the value is also the predicate itself)
20:24:18 <mroman_> !blsq {1 0 2 0 3}{J<-==}f[
20:24:34 <mroman_> !blsq {12 11 13 55 656 19}{J<-==}f[
20:25:38 <mroman_> fizzie: You should try A045718 in Burlesque too ;)
20:25:53 <mroman_> I seem to be stuck at both A045718 and A006520 :(
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20:26:25 <fizzie> Maybe when I get back from here.
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20:37:24 <ais523> ooh, OEIS golf actually seems like a really clever idea
20:37:32 <ais523> there are tons of sequences there, and most follow patterns
20:37:51 <ais523> although, say, a list of the known busy beavers is probably quite hard to generate the "intended" way in a reasonable time
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20:40:36 <lambdabot> Busy Beaver problem: a(n) = maximal number of steps that an n-state Turing m...
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20:40:56 <ais523> the next element of the sequence is unknown, but at least 47176870
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21:04:15 <elliott_> okay, no, 107 was the one worked out I guess
21:04:49 <lambdabot> Zero together with the nonprime numbers A018252.[0,1,4,6,8,9,10,12,14,15,16,...
21:04:55 <lambdabot> Zero together with the nonprime numbers A018252.[0,1,4,6,8,9,10,12,14,15,16,...
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21:10:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * PhillipSowden * New user account
21:10:31 <ais523> hmm, there is something that is obviously a bot reading nethack4.org, but claiming to be Firefox
21:11:03 <ais523> I can tell it's a bot because it loaded robots.txt, then the other pages in quick succession
21:11:31 <Taneb> Maybe it's a script?
21:11:41 <ais523> those tend to claim to be wget or curl
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21:12:09 <Taneb> Maybe it's a poorly written script by someone who's just heard of JavaScript and iframes?
21:12:19 <ais523> that checks robots.txt?
21:12:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[KickMe]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40567 * 173.240.241.83 * (+942) Created page with "'''KickMe''' is an [[object-oriented]] language which inverts traditional notions of member accessibility and data encapsulation. == Member accessibility == The following se..."
21:13:04 <ais523> there are also a surprising number of browsers that don't request any URL at all, and get a 400
21:13:24 <ais523> and at least one who only requested the favicon, nothing else
21:17:54 <Bike> @oeis 0,1,4,6,13
21:17:57 <lambdabot> Busy Beaver sequence, or Rado's sigma function: maximal number of 1's that a...
21:18:04 <Bike> lol no examples huh
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22:06:14 <Sgeo> Why am I looking at Tcl again?
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23:06:29 <Sgeo> https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/2i10fh/ms_developer_on_explaining_why_its_windows_10/ there's real code like that.
23:07:30 <Sgeo> Oh, there is a comment saying it's not likely, I think
23:14:26 <drdanmaku> Sgeo: well, that search does return code like that
23:14:53 <Sgeo> drdanmaku: but there's a comment suggesting that 32-bit code would be told that it's Windows 98 anyway
23:15:57 <drdanmaku> i guess, maybe i'm just holding out hope that the microsoft marketing drones aren't just completely insane :(
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23:20:27 <Sgeo> If Microsoft cared about compatibility with legacy products so much, why would there exist domains where IE 11 will send a UA string that does not claim to be IE, yet render as though it's IE9?
23:22:22 <pikhq> The rendering algorithm choice is decided by the contents, which is *after* the UA is sent.
23:23:52 <Sgeo> pikhq: it can be overridden by Microsoft's compatibility list
23:24:07 <Sgeo> And in this case was
23:24:18 <Sgeo> That same compatibility list can also change the UA that gets sent
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23:31:03 <elliott_> I like https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/2i10fh/ms_developer_on_explaining_why_its_windows_10/ckxx4yv, which will break as soon as Windows 905 gets released
23:32:20 <pikhq> Or when Microsoft releases "Windows Me 2", for the year 3000.
23:32:41 <elliott_> can't wait for windowses 94, 96, 97 and 99
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