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Don't know what those policies are 01:16:33 I mean iOs store, then? 01:16:39 Or wait no. 01:17:20 The in-app purshases but no payment for upgrades thing seems even weirder for desktop programs. 01:24:23 -!- Bicyclidine has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:38:31 it is. 01:38:50 Sgeo: because unity is qt. 01:39:46 MDude: and yes, people do contrive things as in-app purchases 01:40:07 like a free app that effectively makes "do useful things" an in-app purchase, because the mac app store doesn't support trial or demo versions 01:51:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 01:53:21 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:01:08 -!- Bicyclidine has joined. 02:11:53 -!- Hjulle has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:12:38 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 02:47:26 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:05:51 -!- idris-bot has quit (Quit: Terminated). 03:07:04 -!- idris-bot has joined. 03:13:15 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 03:18:35 -!- AndoDaan_ has joined. 03:19:55 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 03:35:47 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 03:36:22 pos internet connection 03:37:17 -!- AndoDaan_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 03:38:28 remind me not to attempt a semi-lengthy page edit again without frequently saving an off-line draft. 03:47:58 hm, can't you just go back in your history to recover the form contents? 03:48:07 iirc IE or something used to not support that, but surely it does now... 03:50:07 checked, not this time. I tried to move to the preview page without realizizng my connection was out. 03:52:11 -!- AndoDaan_ has joined. 03:52:32 dammit. it's out for me today. 03:53:38 AndoDaan_: maybe you'll find https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lazarus-form-recovery/ / https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lazarus-form-recovery/loljledaigphbcpfhfmgopdkppkifgno?hl=en useful 03:53:57 oh, hmm 03:54:02 maybe it is not quite actively developed any more going by that release date. 03:54:18 probably still works though. 03:54:32 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 03:56:15 i will(unless it slows my browser down past what's bearable), thanks for showing me! 03:58:45 heh, well, I can't imagine it's among the heavier extensions you can ruin firefox and chrome with 04:01:26 -!- bb010g has joined. 04:02:56 As much as iPhone policies make me nervous, it would be nice not to have a back button or for apps to expect use of the menu button 04:03:24 Although some of Android's ickiness with multitasking UI isn't actually back button, I guess 04:04:19 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 04:16:23 -!- adu has joined. 04:17:42 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDream. 04:19:51 Wow I am bad at connecting dots. It took until the appearance of a prior character to realize Daughter of White's connection to everything else in Story of Evil 04:20:14 turns out she's evil 04:21:11 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 04:21:22 She's friends with a ... I want to say murder victim but ... I guess genocide victim although targetted at her is more accurate 04:23:57 -!- AndoDaan_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:27:54 It's great when tv can still surprise us. Other than the intrigue, good show? 04:29:02 Songs, not TV 04:29:18 Unless you're talking about something else 04:29:46 Wow. I'm really out of touch. 04:30:24 I'm enjoying it, but I might not have good taste. 04:30:30 I don't watch tv anymore, but I thin maybe I thought you were talking about Person of Interest. 04:31:13 Ok, things just got weirder. 04:32:17 Spoilers for Wooden Girl: Gheaf bhg gung ivpgvz jnf n gerr ghearq uhzna. 04:41:06 I still don't understand Handbeat Clocktower. I was hoping I would understand it. 04:49:04 Oh look, it's the garbage translation of re_birthday :( 05:01:28 A 'fan-song' which is just different Japanese lyrics in the video with the original song, and an unreadable Englush translation 05:02:39 Oh, maybe they did change the lyrics in the song itself too 05:05:28 -!- Bicyclidine has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:07:12 Well, this next fan song is sad, but gets canon wrong severely, in a way critical to its sadness 05:07:35 Wait, no 05:09:36 Not sure. Doubt it's correct though 05:11:29 Strong sense of Deja Vu with this. 05:11:37 idk why. 05:33:42 -!- John_Hunk has joined. 05:33:58 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: restart). 05:35:37 -!- Bike has joined. 05:38:32 -!- augur has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 05:39:09 -!- John_Hunk has left ("Leaving"). 05:40:14 @metar EFHK 05:40:14 EFHK 170520Z 02006KT 9999 FEW034 M03/M04 Q1016 NOSIG 05:40:19 Brrrr. 05:44:01 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 05:45:57 -!- augur has joined. 05:51:19 -!- conehead has joined. 05:51:19 -!- conehead has quit (Changing host). 05:51:19 -!- conehead has joined. 05:54:30 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 06:21:37 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:34:02 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:34:32 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 07:26:54 -!- Patashu has joined. 07:32:11 -!- Patashu has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:32:24 -!- Patashu has joined. 07:40:53 Is there a scripting language for Automator that is not AppleScript 07:44:32 http://virtualmacosx.com/index.php/xcode-plans 07:44:36 Ooh, much cheaper than a real mac 07:45:01 Assuming it's legitimate 07:59:39 -!- tromp__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:00:14 -!- tromp_ has joined. 08:21:24 -!- dianne has quit (Quit: byeanne). 08:30:54 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 08:32:29 -!- dianne has joined. 08:44:46 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 09:06:08 -!- ais523 has joined. 09:06:18 -!- ais523 has quit (Changing host). 09:06:18 -!- ais523 has joined. 09:08:10 Ick the website is so form-over-function 09:08:11 https://www.apple.com/imac-with-retina/ 09:08:17 Have to scroll to get to -any- content 09:15:35 Sgeo: Apple were forced to put a legal notice on their homepage a while back (by court order) 09:15:49 they did so, with an image that automatically resized to push the notice below the fold regardless of how big your screen was 09:16:16 presumably, after potentially getting in trouble for that, they decided to push everything on every page below the fold so that it wouldn't look suspicious 09:16:58 o.O 09:17:43 It looks very neat, but I'd like to know whether the image resolution is correct; they seem to have made that somewhat nontrivial to figure out. 09:24:16 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 09:27:02 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 09:27:02 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Client Quit). 09:29:07 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 09:37:26 I guess it's at least close. Some empirical measurement (matching the content of the maximally zoomed-in image to the image with monitor boundaries included) and then extrapolating gave me around 5400x3000, which is reasonably close to the actual 5120x2880 resolution, and could be within the margin of error. 09:38:04 (5120x2880 looks ridiculous as a single-monitor resolution.) 09:40:57 that's quite the resolution 09:44:34 Soon the monitor resolutions will go past my camera sensor resolution (5472x3648). 09:46:59 My camera has 640x480 09:51:33 You could argue that the monitor's already past that, because the camera has a total of 5472*3648 actual pixels, with a RGGB color filter on top, while the monitor actually has 5120*3*2880 subpixels. 09:51:39 The school newspaper had access to a digital camera that recorded 640x480 JPGs on a 3.5" floppy. 09:54:40 -!- mroman has changed nick to foobarbaz. 09:54:50 -!- foobarbaz has changed nick to mroman. 10:15:58 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 10:21:58 -!- drdanmaku has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 10:35:06 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 10:37:26 -!- boily has joined. 10:56:05 Aaaah 10:56:12 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:56:13 I'm going to see Guardians of the Galaxy again tonight 10:57:06 -!- S1 has joined. 10:59:48 Tanelle. why? and why the "Aaaah"? 11:00:43 boily, because it's on on my uni's student cinema 11:00:59 And because I've got like the entire soundtrack stuck in my head 11:07:17 nothing to worry about, then. it's a good soundtrack. 11:09:29 :) 11:09:55 How are you doing, boily/ 11:11:00 exhausted, but satisfied. we had a big major release Tuesday, and today it's beer to celebrate the occasion. 11:11:19 :) 11:11:41 http://dental-wings.com/news/sneak-preview-dwos-40 11:13:17 Fancy 11:13:52 Not the kind of thing I'm in the target audience for, though :) 11:14:47 it's indeed fancy and shiny ^^ 11:16:56 how's your Friday going on, you who lives in the Future, six hours from now? 11:17:08 (or is it five away from us in the UK?) 11:17:13 @localtime Taneb 11:17:13 Local time for Taneb is Fri Oct 17 12:17:13 11:17:17 five. 11:17:40 Well, I'm a little bit ill, but I think I'm almost over this cold 11:19:26 Going to a... I want to say cybersecurity... competition tomorrow 11:20:06 dun dun dun! 11:20:43 meanwhile, I need to lâchement abandon you, otherwise I'll be late for the bus. 11:20:48 :) 11:20:52 -!- boily has quit (Quit: GALVANIZED CHICKEN). 11:21:16 It should be against the law to galvanize chickens. 11:29:34 -!- oerjan has joined. 11:50:31 What do people do at cybersecurity competitions? 11:51:09 Sort of puzzles like "Can you make an SQL injection to get the password?" 11:51:36 Oh, okay. Like the sort of thing people do over the web, except real-time and at a place? 11:52:03 Yeah, and in teams 11:53:30 and legally 11:53:50 Yeah, it's all staged 11:55:47 fizzie: practice safe cybersex 11:56:42 Is there an association like AHA you need to apply for a "No Production Systems Were Harmed" logo for your cybersecurity competition? 12:00:18 Don't think so 12:00:25 This one is being ran by BAE 12:17:09 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:27:17 -!- S1 has quit (Quit: S1). 13:16:45 Some Animals were harmed in the process. 13:17:02 Most of them are so small you can't see them with the naked eye. 13:18:09 Melvar: I find looking up unicode characters too much of a hassle. 13:18:56 `unidecode □ 13:18:56 ​[U+25A1 WHITE SQUARE] 13:19:00 `unicode TOWER 13:19:01 U+1F5FC TOKYO TOWER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 97 bc UTF-16BE: d83dddfc Decimal: 🗼 \ 🗼 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 13:19:04 int-e: For me it’s just ⎄[] . 13:20:03 `unicode MONKEY FACE 13:20:04 U+1F435 MONKEY FACE \ UTF-8: f0 9f 90 b5 UTF-16BE: d83ddc35 Decimal: 🐵 \ 🐵 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 13:20:14 Melvar: Sure, it's a matter of configuration and training. I simply don't need them; most of my output with fancy symbols is produced with LaTeX anyway. 13:21:03 Heh, I use the symbols when *writing* LaTeX. 13:22:00 Really? 13:22:13 LaTeX doesn't even have utf8 support 13:22:16 Well, all the ones I know how to easily reach. 13:23:20 Right, I’ve been using inputenc utf8x, but I probably really ought to switch to luaLaTeX or something. 13:36:03 ▣ 13:38:30 There's not only WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK SMALL SQUARE (the above) but also WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK VERY SMALL SQUARE and WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK MEDIUM SQUARE. 13:39:07 No LARGE or VERY LARGE ones, though. Perhaps the square containing them would have had to be too large. 13:39:45 What, BLACK SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE? Seriously. 13:40:43 `unicode WHITE SQUARY CONTAINING BLACK SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE 13:40:44 No output. 13:40:48 `unicode WHITE SQUARY CONTAINING BLACK 13:40:49 No output. 13:40:53 `unicode WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK 13:40:54 U+25A3 WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK SMALL SQUARE \ UTF-8: e2 96 a3 UTF-16BE: 25a3 Decimal: ▣ \ ▣ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 13:41:00 `unicode WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK SLIGHTLY 13:41:01 No output. 13:41:29 `unicode WHITE SQUARE CONTAINING BLACK VERY SMALL 13:41:30 No output. 13:41:54 The set of BLACK SQUAREs: BLACK {TINY,VERY SMALL,SMALL,SLIGHTLY SMALL,MEDIUM SMALL,MEDIUM,LARGE} SQUARE. 13:42:01 I'm not sure if that's the correct order. 13:42:29 I guess TINY is smaller than VERY SMALL, but it's hard to say about SMALL vs. MEDIUM SMALL vs. SLIGHTLY SMALL. 13:42:35 Maybe SLIGHTLY SMALL is larger than SMALL? 13:42:54 Maybe MEDIUM SMALL is the same size as plain SMALL? This is confusing. 13:44:02 the question is whether slightly small is smaller than medium small 13:44:22 There's also {LIGHT,MEDIUM,BOLD,HEAVY,VERY HEAVY,EXTREMELY HEAVY} WHITE SQUARE, and a set of WHITE SQUARE sizes that's slightly (NPI) smaller than that of BLACK SQUARE. 13:44:59 * Melvar is still disappointed that his attempt to embed unicode information in an idris module failed. 13:45:10 For example, a WHITE SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE does not exist, but a WHITE MEDIUM SMALL SQUARE does. 13:46:24 -!- adu has joined. 13:53:46 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 13:54:33 -!- adu has joined. 13:56:00 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 14:03:32 -!- Slereah has joined. 14:05:06 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:06:47 `unicode WHITE SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE 14:06:48 No output. 14:06:54 WHERE IS THAT SQUARE???!?!?!? 14:07:36 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 14:08:07 `unicode BLACK SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE 14:08:08 No output. 14:08:13 `unicode SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE 14:08:13 No output. 14:08:16 `unicode SLIGHTLY SMALL BLACK SQUARE 14:08:17 No output. 14:08:33 `unicode WHITE MEDIUM SMALL SQUARE 14:08:34 ​◽ 14:08:52 `unicode BLACK MEDIUM SMALL SQUARE 14:08:53 ​◾ 14:09:03 there's no SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE in geometric shapes 14:09:30 just SQUARE, MEDIUM SQUARE, MEDIUM SMALL SQUARE, SMALL SQUARE 14:10:02 `unicode TINY SQUARE 14:10:03 No output. 14:10:11 `unicode BLACK TINY SQUARE 14:10:12 No output. 14:11:26 It's off there in the supplemental plane. 14:11:56 1F78D;BLACK SLIGHTLY SMALL SQUARE 14:12:23 HackEgo's tools are deficient due to having a UCS-2 Python build, or so I recall. 14:13:20 `unicode MULTIOCULAR O 14:13:21 U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 ae UTF-16BE: a66e Decimal: ꙮ \ ꙮ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) 14:14:28 `run multicode -x 1F78D 14:14:29 U+1F78D - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9f 9e 8d UTF-16BE: d83ddf8d Decimal: 🞍 \ 🞍 (🞍) \ Uppercase: U+1F78D \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) 14:15:00 I was under the impression that someone installed that tool specifically because it had a built-in database instead of building on the Python module. 14:15:04 Perhaps it's just not new enough. 14:15:07 Oh well, gone. -> 14:51:53 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 15:17:53 `unidecode ᵫ 15:17:53 ​[U+1D6B LATIN SMALL LETTER UE] 15:26:04 I am enjoying learning Racket 15:26:13 `unidecode 語 15:26:13 ​[U+8A9E CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-8A9E] 15:30:56 `unicode google 15:30:57 No output. 15:31:00 `unicode java 15:31:01 U+A980 JAVANESE SIGN PANYANGGA \ UTF-8: ea a6 80 UTF-16BE: a980 Decimal: ꦀ \ ꦀ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ \ U+A981 JAVANESE SIGN CECAK \ UTF-8: ea a6 81 UTF-16BE: a981 Decimal: ꦁ \ ꦁ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ \ U+A982 JAVANESE SIGN LAYAR \ UTF 15:31:16 no logos for big companies :( 15:32:19 Java is an island 15:35:53 `unicode unicode 15:35:54 No output. 15:36:01 -!- conehead has joined. 15:39:44 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 15:40:52 !blsq 9GO{fCb2\[b2}GO 15:40:52 ERROR: Burlesque: (m[) Invalid arguments! 15:40:58 !blsq 9{fCb2\[b2}GO 15:40:58 {{} 2 3 10 5 11 7 42 15} 15:41:16 !blsq 20{fCb2\[b2}GO 15:41:16 {{} 2 3 10 5 11 7 42 15 21 11 43 13 23 29 170 17 47 19 85} 15:41:32 !blsq 20{fcb2\[b2}GO 15:41:32 {1 6 7 52 13 222 15 840 121 858 27 28268 29 894 991 26896 49 113970 51 215892} 15:41:49 @oeis 2,3,10,5,11,7,42 15:41:50 Working in base 2, replace n by the concatenation of its prime divisors in i... 15:42:02 @oeis 1,6,7,52,13 15:42:03 a(n) is the number whose binary representation is the concatenation of the d... 15:43:30 1 is the number of 1 in itself 15:44:56 2,3 both describe the number of edges/corners in them 15:45:09 and 4 15:51:28 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: No route to host). 15:51:51 -!- TodPunk has joined. 16:03:18 whats the unicode sign with the longest name? 16:11:55 `unidecode ݓ 16:11:56 ​[U+0753 ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH THREE DOTS POINTING UPWARDS BELOW AND TWO DOTS ABOVE] 16:12:00 that might not be the longest 16:12:09 you'll have to look at the full database 16:12:15 but it's pretty long 16:12:33 `run find . -name UnicodeData.txt 16:12:35 ​./bin/UnicodeData.txt 16:12:43 `head bin/UnicodeData.txt 16:12:44 0000;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;NULL;;;; \ 0001;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;START OF HEADING;;;; \ 0002;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;START OF TEXT;;;; \ 0003;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;END OF TEXT;;;; \ 0004;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;END OF TRANSMISSION;;;; \ 0005;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;ENQUIRY;;;; \ 0006;;Cc;0;BN;;;;;N;ACKNOWLEDGE;;;; \ 0007;;Cc 16:13:09 no no, use a newest versoin 16:13:23 `wc UnicodeData.txt 16:13:23 wc: UnicodeData.txt: No such file or directory 16:13:27 `wc bin/UnicodeData.txt 16:13:27 ​ 24434 109111 1367023 bin/UnicodeData.txt 16:17:02 `run sed 's/[^;]*;\([^;]*\);.*/\1/' bin/UnicodeData.txt | awk '{print length($0) " " $0;}' | sort -nr | cut -d\ -f2- 16:17:03 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM \ ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA INITIAL FORM \ ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA FINAL FORM \ CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY \ ARABIC LETTER B 16:17:14 `run sed 's/[^;]*;\([^;]*\);.*/\1/' bin/UnicodeData.txt | awk '{print length($0) " " $0;}' | sort -nr | cut -d\ -f2- | fgrep -v ARABIC 16:17:15 CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY \ DOWNWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB LEFT BESIDE DOWNWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB RIGHT \ RIGHTWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB DOWN ABOVE LEFTWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB DOWN \ MUSICAL SYMBOL TEMPUS IMPERFECTUM CUM PROLATIONE IMPERFECTA DIMINUTION-3 \ MUSICAL SYMBOL TEMPUS IMPERFECTUM CUM PROLA 16:18:40 what'd arabic ever do to you 16:19:32 It's a very, very long story 16:19:48 how about the random Unicode character name generator 16:21:05 how many four letter or shorter names are there? 16:22:50 ;win 36 16:23:08 `run sed 's/[^;]*;\([^;]*\);.*/\1/' bin/UnicodeData.txt | awk '{print length($0) " " $0;}' | sort -n | cut -d\ -f2- 16:23:09 OX \ ANT \ ARC \ BOY \ BUG \ BUS \ CAT \ COW \ DOG \ DVD \ EAR \ IMP \ KEY \ LEO \ MAN \ NOR \ PIG \ RAM \ RAT \ SUN \ XOR \ ANKH \ BABY \ BANK \ BATH \ BELL \ BIRD \ BOAR \ BOMB \ DOOR \ EYES \ FIRE \ FISH \ FUSE \ GEAR \ GIRL \ GOAT \ HERB \ JOIN \ JUNO \ KISS \ LOCK \ MEMO \ MINY \ NAND \ NOSE \ ODEN \ PEAR \ PICK \ PILL \ RAIN \ RING \ ROSE \ S 16:23:46 "Comments: second of the signs of the Asian zodiac" 16:23:56 (asian zodiac what the hell) 16:50:31 -!- drdanmaku has joined. 16:52:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:45:57 -!- MoALTz has joined. 18:00:23 `run sed 's/[^;]*;\([^;]*\);.*/\1/' bin/UnicodeData.txt | awk '{print length($0) " " $0;}' | sort -n | cut -d\ -f2- | wc -l 18:00:25 24434 18:00:47 -!- S1 has joined. 18:01:16 `` wc -l bin/UnicodeData.txt 18:01:17 24434 bin/UnicodeData.txt 18:02:02 Hm, not the newest I guess. 18:03:42 er right 18:04:18 `run sed 's/[^;]*;\([^;]*\);.*/\1/' bin/UnicodeData.txt | awk '{print length($0) " " $0;}' | grep -P '^[1-4]\b' | wc -l 18:04:19 60 18:04:22 Terve, Fizzie. Mitä kuuluu? 18:04:34 (yes, that means the books are here) 18:05:01 -!- S1 has quit (Client Quit). 18:06:16 FireFly: See, on my system that says 68. 18:08:09 Olen vilustunut. 18:08:18 My system apparently has two copies of UnicodeData.txt, and both are smaller than HackEgo's ._. 18:08:33 * FireFly downloads a new copy 18:08:49 “27268 /usr/share/unicode/ucd/UnicodeData.txt” 18:15:06 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:16:00 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:46:07 -!- conehead has joined. 19:14:41 -!- kcm1700_ has joined. 19:17:03 -!- kcm1700 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:33:19 -!- Bicyclidine has joined. 19:50:01 I don't like the Euclidean norm problem, since it's so finicky about the floating-point formatting. (And they could've picked something a bit more regular, like fixed-number-of-decimals instead of the %g-style "remove trailing zeros and decimal points" nonsense.) 19:52:15 -!- Hjulle has joined. 19:52:45 agreed. 19:54:02 fizzie: that, or provide a more specific result tester than just string comparison (after stripping cariage returns and trailing newlines) 19:54:29 though you can't do that on anagolf 19:54:42 I don't know, there's already all those special problems. 19:54:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:54:58 sure, but I mean you can't do that on anagolf without shinh's support 19:55:41 Right, right. Arguably perhaps even a generic "sequence of numbers" problem type could make sense. 19:56:16 -!- S1 has joined. 19:56:21 One of the Euclidean norm results goes wrong in the last decimal if you do it with Befunge-98 FPSP single-precision floats. 19:57:19 -!- nys has joined. 19:58:01 -!- Bicyclidine has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 20:14:47 -!- scounder has quit (Changing host). 20:14:47 -!- scounder has joined. 20:33:40 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 20:34:14 -!- nycs has joined. 20:38:43 -!- Sorella has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:39:27 -!- Bicyclidine has joined. 21:14:00 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Bye). 21:15:39 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:31:06 -!- Patashu has joined. 21:32:30 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:44:43 -!- nycs has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:44:57 -!- nycs has joined. 21:54:41 -!- nycs has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:56:58 -!- Somelauw has joined. 22:02:15 -!- Bicyclidine has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:04:06 -!- boily has joined. 22:33:43 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 22:37:55 whee! 22:38:08 whee?! 22:38:17 beat you on mail merge 22:38:29 ah. 22:39:06 oerjan making “whee” doesn't feel natural. I can't associate an oerjan-whee with the same voice as an oerjan-OKAY. 22:39:09 and i also discovered that it's not entirely safe to err out at the end of the program. 22:39:32 (i got output cut off because of that.) 22:39:34 I discovered that, too. 22:41:14 it's worked in previous programs, but i think they mostly used the m@main=getLine>>=...>>m template 22:41:25 so ordering was enforced by IO 22:41:27 oerjan: Turns out the official channel does in fact have a bot that announces all improvements. 22:41:35 fizzie: oh it does? 22:41:46 Yes. I "bit the bullet" and went there. 22:41:56 [01:37:44] -mircbot_:#anagol- oerjan submits 171B of Haskell for Mail merge, ranking #1 (10000pts). 22:44:26 oerjan: Ok, caught up. 22:44:40 bah 22:44:51 so fast 22:45:06 First person gets the better rank in case of ties, though, right? 22:45:08 just changed a [] to _ 22:45:12 fizzie: yes 22:45:42 elliott: Were you actually serious about wanting my SparcStation and the SGI Indy? I mean, it might be that the relocation package includes a certain volume of shipped goods, so I could theoretically even stick them in there. I'm certainly not using them for anything, that's for sure, and keeping them here in the basement is not all that useful either. 22:46:04 oerjan: I got so annoyed about the encoding issues that I stopped improving the program, though it does look pretty tight. 22:46:55 Only 102 bytes to go to reach the practicality of Befunge(-98). 22:47:48 int-e: i briefly considered whether to try importing bytestrings (it's available, and has no encoding issue) but the prelude clashes and the long names means it probably wouldn't have helped. 22:51:35 i also tied henkma on the swapping earlier. let's see if that still holds. 23:00:41 hm actually importing it qualified only makes the whole thing 5 chars longer. 23:02:38 wait 4 23:10:48 -!- S1 has quit (Quit: S1). 23:10:52 -!- Bicyclidine has joined. 23:18:05 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨). 23:22:40 -!- Somelauw has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2). 23:23:15 improved 23:23:57 (not with bytestring though) 23:36:16 > map length ["mapM putStrLn","putStr.unlines","interact.const.unlines"] 23:36:18 [13,14,22]