< 1414195452 230514 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like Scala's standard trampoline, at least relative to Clojure's < 1414195467 265432 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not needing such tricks would be better >.> < 1414195502 294032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1414195574 241255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trampolines are fun but they steal your time < 1414195606 291635 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1414195767 722480 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Chrome is not going to let me copy out of a PDF today < 1414197599 204074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what time zone is shinh.org on, something asian? < 1414197636 214201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shinh is japanese < 1414197652 785107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLAUSIBLE < 1414197683 259783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just dislikes things not giving a timezone if it's not UTC
< 1414199481 208001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i must have pressed the wrong vim button for the count, i thought i'd beat them by 1 char < 1414199496 974833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well it's a tie < 1414199639 281255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem _that_ impossible to find a shorter expression though... < 1414199643 103414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: note that newlines are dangerous < 1414199684 609661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the problem, although i've never actually checked with _not_ removing the final newline on input i think... < 1414199702 457594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the program _output_ doesn't care about trailing newlines. < 1414199750 33219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or, it _may_ have been the problem in vim (not doing a full line selection), but it wasn't a problem when submitting. < 1414199782 348874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i usually select the full line and mentally subtract the newline from the count. < 1414199802 974881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the program < 1414199806 543763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait perhaps it was even more stupid. < 1414199818 316175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are \r\n through the web form < 1414199818 469506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: only at the end, in haskell, usually. < 1414199826 709508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\n if you upload a unix format text file < 1414199830 857027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: huh? never had that problem. < 1414199837 452503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was fixed < 1414199840 520848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if i use the form from windows < 1414199851 776779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you used to pay double for newlines unless you uploaded < 1414199857 633747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this program is one line anyway. < 1414199877 667870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1414199910 405595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually, since i am on windows, used the form because i assumed if it broke it was likely to be the _other_ way :P < 1414199949 243089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i keep all my golfs in one file so it's awkward to upload. < 1414200254 574398 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's much easier to find longer expression... < 1414200280 252026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1414200301 149997 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite so far contained sum[2..a] < 1414200314 949917 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was too long. < 1414203716 285850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, got "swap the characters" -- it's actually cheating! < 1414203732 509015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1414203744 291061 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can get to 80 without cheating. < 1414204244 228869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only possible cheat information i've found is the fact that none of the starting words have 2 chars, but i haven't found any improvement from that. < 1414204259 491781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, also there are no lines with no swap commands. < 1414204291 33639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already said more than I should. < 1414204296 396504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1414204307 843110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck :) < 1414206573 806550 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1414206610 813161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remarkable. i discovered i had overengineered the way to apply a single swap to a character, and now i'm down to 81. < 1414206635 250320 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made some progress on Asteriks and Obeliks in the meantime :) < 1414206642 645322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1414206789 742715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf etc. < 1414206942 823004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. you are now at exactly the length i would have had if i _didn't_ need that stupid strip-final-spaces version of ++. < 1414206987 177270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, not exactly. < 1414206995 584450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of unwords, rather. < 1414207008 183458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1414207325 323974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, my main function is 73 chars. < 1414207338 487110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*action < 1414207403 787078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means, logically, that you probably have found a way to get that stripping for free, at least. < 1414207518 318315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not completely free. < 1414207579 813126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i recall something i did in another golf recently... < 1414207747 534571 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 characters, I think. < 1414207755 886013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes the euclidian norm one required stripping with another method. < 1414207820 867607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than 10 chars, though :( < 1414208687 440676 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or is Scala filled with things where a person -can- determine behavior statically, but it can be a bit tricky? < 1414208728 508852 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implicits in scope, but tracking all of them might be tricky... guess a good IDE could help with that, but do you really want to rely on an IDE to help read code? < 1414208867 853992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least now I understand what's going on with https://github.com/urso/embeddedmonads < 1414208904 695365 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least why the call looks the way it does, it's just a matter of {} being a value + not needing parens + type of runOption indicating a thunk < 1414208924 967413 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that {} is automatically a thunk, it's just the type of the called function that causes it to be < 1414209050 374679 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't get the cps typing though < 1414210702 389258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40696&oldid=39329 5* 03Nthern 5* (+31) 10/* x = x == y */ < 1414211154 6366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know, the man who designed the White House was Catholic, the man who invented double-entry accounting was Catholic, and even Hitler and Dracula were Catholic? < 1414211156 872768 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414211464 806758 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mentioned Poe's law on Conservapedia; but I found it is actually on Wikipedia too (which I consider far more trustworthy, regardless of what Conservapedia says; nevertheless is good to see the various views mentioned in various texts). < 1414212106 967847 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no < 1414212117 319820 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Conservapedia is the embodiment of Poe's Law < 1414212356 213329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I suppose you may be right. < 1414212382 445074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As has been mentioned before, possibly even people on there don't know how serious it is. < 1414212390 998126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean the people who write it!) < 1414213238 633530 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414213281 323238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you know that the man who invented the idea of the big bang was catholic < 1414213342 752092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Actually, yes I knew that too. < 1414213398 901704 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1414213810 366565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it was Christians who wrote "X" in place of "Christ" (as an abbreviation), not atheists. < 1414213820 382148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course now atheists do it too sometimes.) < 1414213854 122916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something being Christian is neither an argument for nor against such a thing. < 1414214065 501503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know the pope is catholic < 1414214075 7893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#MindBlowingCatholicFacts < 1414214395 277707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also do not completely understand the working of big bang, although perhaps I can look it up in Wikipedia. < 1414214491 527472 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thin if you had a good understanding of the early aftermath you'd be up for honorary doctorates < 1414214515 648604 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or of the later aftermath, since that's now, if you think about it < 1414214521 186539 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you think < 1414214914 397250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1414215328 319051 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1414215328 841941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1414215676 809405 :password2!~password@197.76.141.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414215814 548648 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1414216230 299612 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1414216525 932767 :password2!~password@197.76.141.85 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1414216725 588267 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414217579 8846 :password2!~password@197.76.146.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414220205 701338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still confused; is there the difference of space and time? Shouldn't spacetime be one thing? < 1414220363 959094 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spacetime is one thing, yes < 1414220368 95165 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they have opposite signs in the metric signature bla bla bla < 1414220378 246540 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is a difference between timelike curves and spacelike curves < 1414220406 187129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that, but how does it relate to big bang? < 1414220425 694985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they have opposite signs < 1414220427 110240 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the current understanding of the big bang, there is a timelike singularity < 1414220441 917867 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, you cannot extend a timelike geodesic infinitely far in the past < 1414220563 914544 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one divided by time < 1414220566 27033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch me [starts stretching a timelike geodesic with bare hands] < 1414220596 374179 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo < 1414220601 875940 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will you be able to do it < 1414220605 18865 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INFINITELY < 1414220617 857735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[arms disappear into the distance, undergo gravitational collapse] < 1414220630 75843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :call me mr tickle < 1414220630 621114 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip elliott's arms < 1414220641 274086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr men as creation myth < 1414220645 357912 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twerked too hard < 1414220647 950047 :password2!~password@197.76.146.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1414220710 891564 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have lots of fun with spacetimes < 1414220722 530753 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to have spacetimes without any future or past distinction < 1414221239 558576 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1414222537 958344 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414222785 385820 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's fair to say that Scala uses lexical scoping in letter but not spirit? With lexical scoping you expect to be able to look for identifiers textually (bad word) nearby. Not so easy in Scala < 1414222898 239800 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, generally not so easy in OO < 1414222996 574263 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm curious which feature you're referring to. < 1414223349 69861 :password2!~password@197.76.160.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414223353 995879 :brandons1!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1414223400 486098 :brandonson!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1414223526 141948 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1414224031 350406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implicits, which get brought into scope via import, but the name of an implicit in use may not be obvious < 1414224050 742443 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or via other mechanisms too, actually) < 1414224096 722504 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh... IMO, the purpose of lexical scoping is that A) nothing happens that you haven't explicitly introduced, and B) you can statically determine everything in a scope. < 1414224412 973997 :password2!~password@197.76.160.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1414224742 942664 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.76.20.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1414226200 313903 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1414226212 771294 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I'm not sure implicits should be thought of as having names, even. < 1414226220 403977 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do have /types/ but not sure about names. < 1414226227 458055 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except as an implementation detail) < 1414226436 451004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Beefster 5* 10New user account < 1414227174 908192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: don't, uh, /globals/ violate that? < 1414228320 151451 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wolzirigebjvzila QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1414229014 307013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, I have a cheating first half in 17 and a workaround-prints of 15 (which times out) and 20 (which doesn't). < 1414229727 249256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1414230232 710173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can LALR(1) grammars have states with more than one kind of reduce depending on the lookahead? Can SLR(1) grammars have? < 1414232210 975553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Scratch that, I have a workaround-print of size 11 now, leading to a 28B solution. Now if I could only figure out how to make a shorter first half. < 1414233291 283160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: (Any tips? :) ) < 1414233345 5715 :S1!~sheldon@pD9FCABEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1414236293 26269 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1414241980 4434 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: I'll be back < 1414243119 760007 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1414243405 248256 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1414243628 42061 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ show $ 2^2^2^2^2 < 1414243630 413281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 19729 < 1414243799 863576 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my hint would be to try and match the Haskell solution, that's where I took the formula from... < 1414243869 337822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a Haskell solution, though. (And that length sounds more relevant for the printing than the computation.) < 1414243876 898355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (I have no useful hint to give) < 1414243893 97964 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I improved my printing part. < 1414243920 768669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my printing needs improvement any more (it's 11B), but the front half (17B) does. < 1414243956 171525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, only 12 days to wait and see. :) < 1414244313 738243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part sizes are 13 (as before, the 14 included a 'p') and 11 (matching yours), fwiw. < 1414244660 526385 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1414244933 648235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't much like dc's "all conditional stuff must go via a register" thing. < 1414245132 20022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh. < 1414245223 759590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the same part sizes now, but slightly different statistics. < 1414245437 126357 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two versions of part 1 < 1414245489 675974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just out of curiosity, do your two versions involve a different amount of ?s? < 1414245516 920848 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm but they have the same statistics. < 1414245535 608673 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ show $ 2^2^2^2^10 < 1414245541 321417 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1414245547 106863 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1414245643 108746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ show $ 2^2^10 < 1414245645 962671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 309 < 1414245679 297406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^2^2^10 is already much too big to fit into memory. < 1414245741 166485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, they don't. < 1414245761 484851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I was wondering whether I should try with one, but it didn't seem to help any. < 1414245768 691902 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ show $ 2^2^2^10 < 1414245770 641072 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try. < 1414245771 18771 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1414245773 914620 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1414245785 170099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 2^179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216. < 1414245806 904778 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds reasonable enough. < 1414245861 230490 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ show $ 1^2^2^2^10 < 1414245866 687918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1414245920 284435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That times log_10(2) should be about the number of digits for your earlier 2^2^2^2^10. < 1414246156 963118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (unless I miscalculated) the number of digits of 2^2^2^2^10 is a number that has around 5e307 digits. < 1414246279 508337 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks for that < 1414246297 3773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: For what? < 1414246319 358368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did notice the 23B.) < 1414246344 44884 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the idea of playing with the second input < 1414246344 198254 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 2** < 1414246344 542167 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1414246347 707463 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 2** < 1414246347 860878 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1414246360 385682 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 2 2**** < 1414246360 538954 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16 < 1414246366 484418 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 2 2 2****** < 1414246366 638792 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 65536 < 1414246371 52114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, so you used only the first one initially? < 1414246375 450521 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1414246380 117352 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 2 2 2 10******** < 1414246380 270732 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1414246393 514203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I was hoping I could shave off a byte by trying that, after all. < 1414246643 50266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1414246660 231372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you did it too. Unyay, now I'm only #2. < 1414246706 571281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it took me that long, given that I was already using both. < 1414246798 659675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it's quite likely we've ended up with identical solutions by now.) < 1414247632 930515 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stared at the sun. Saw a sunspot < 1414247667 89302 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1414247712 164833 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hurt your eyes < 1414247779 454895 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using solar glasses < 1414247788 657109 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rainbowsymphonystore.com/eclipseshades.html < 1414247813 953134 :S1!~sheldon@pD9FCABEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1414247853 31297 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" These premium filters create a sharper ORANGE colored image of the sun. " < 1414247863 438345 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they doing things that artificially color the image? :/ < 1414247876 617366 :S1!~sheldon@pD9FCABEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1414247987 232654 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1414248058 163510 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't really have a way to tell if their glasses really are certified in any way < 1414249145 2800 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1414249408 122802 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> comparing length "Eclipse Shades® Safe Solar Eclipse Glasses" "Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive sunglasses" < 1414249409 707758 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : LT < 1414249453 867645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length <$> ["Eclipse Shades® Safe Solar Eclipse Glasses", "Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive sunglasses"] < 1414249455 69438 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [42,56] < 1414249467 339144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note first number, certainly not a coincidence. < 1414249662 513908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that encoding-dependent < 1414249683 357808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "®" < 1414249685 178205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1414249732 139739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length <$> ["ä", "ä"] < 1414249733 703440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2] < 1414249747 520622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So length in terms of code points, then. < 1414249894 12865 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414250832 51737 :S1!~sheldon@pD9FCABEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1414251899 908276 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1414251901 108165 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromEnum (maxBound :: Char) < 1414251904 724550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1114111 < 1414251946 286191 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1414252263 111037 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1414252301 211916 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btidctriigifldbr JOIN :#esoteric < 1414252480 702726 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1414255552 993717 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1414257062 820990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I wrote Belgian numbers in sed, and it turned out to be 415 bytes long; I have no idea how people actually golf (numeric problems) in sed in any meaningful way. < 1414257096 118157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a 183B sed solution for it already.) < 1414257393 765122 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; I'd browse previous solutions. < 1414257409 631667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like work. :/ < 1414257416 102289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they might be difficult. < 1414257423 174141 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :less work than figuring out everything from scratch. < 1414257730 826997 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stared at the sun while wearing a symbol associated with a character who went blind by staring at the sun < 1414257781 700357 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for example, http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?Multiply+long+version/tails_1334125271&sed looks like it does real arithmetic. < 1414257986 96202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks clever. < 1414258127 323899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What symbol and character is that? < 1414258267 784458 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.whatpumpkin.com/Hero-of-Mind-Standard-Tee.html < 1414258278 62940 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Terezi_Pyrope < 1414258292 543726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1414258692 125288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/doc/zterm.txt Can you please tell me if it is good, your opinion of such things? It can be one possible alternative to Glk, and is one which should be more suitable for Z-machine programming. < 1414259783 616912 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414260087 280886 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, does Esolang also provide a forum in which the technical side of developing programming languages is discussed? < 1414260134 739671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SignX: I think is probably best to just post on this channel; there was a forum but it isn't very good so just use the IRC. < 1414260159 808819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have specific questions about such things? < 1414260331 89445 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, no specific question, actually, I was just looking for resources about developing programming languages in which I could wander around and maybe learn from. < 1414260371 97566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolang is very unusual compared to most kind of "ordinary" programming languages, but there is still something to learn from. < 1414260411 344513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also logs of this IRC channel, and stuff on the talk pages of the wiki, which are some things to possibly look at. < 1414260442 901712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even look in Wikipedia you can see many other kind of programming languages too. < 1414260443 55422 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1414260458 283082 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any other resources (fora) on the internet in which a community of language developers exist for some time? < 1414260473 813268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I myself don't know any. < 1414260511 244089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of programming language are you trying to invent? Domain-specific, domain-independent, target-machine-specific, target-machine-independent, etc? < 1414260593 799879 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A general purpose programming language. I have writting a prototype interpreter in Java using javacc. < 1414260632 924423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's see and then perhaps some questions, comments, and complaints can be made. < 1414260657 540053 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably :) < 1414260676 321878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you using a parser generator? < 1414260683 889096 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, javacc < 1414260709 703719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK, I don't know that one. Is it LL or LR or something else? < 1414260788 22566 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1414260834 97717 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what LL and LR stand for, sorry. < 1414260946 872947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says JavaCC is LL(k). However, LR parsers are generally more powerful. < 1414260987 522874 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean powerful in the sense that your syntax can be more complex? < 1414261033 345799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1414261039 671039 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until now it proved powerful enough. The language itself is quite simple. < 1414261060 904469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, LL(1) parsers are often good enough. < 1414261078 542618 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not have any Compiler courses or anything, so my knowledge of the topic is not that good. < 1414261079 104925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1414261089 637382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414261201 816441 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remembered some concepts I found very interesting during my study and tried to combine them into a programming language. I am not even sure if it is Turing complete or anything. That is why I am developing this prototype in Java. To see how my ideas hold up in practise. < 1414261203 891397 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dragon book :p < 1414261227 370691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SignX: Yes, you can try and see how well it might work. < 1414262608 931291 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1414262644 671150 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1414262769 599431 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1414263293 48478 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzo38: do you know anything about Prolog? < 1414263604 113704 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1414264404 154641 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My eyes feel a bit weird, I hope it's psychosomatic < 1414264760 329968 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/synoptic/sunspots_earth/mdi_sunspots_1024.jpg < 1414264767 594742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw that large sunspot, but not in much detail < 1414264787 582045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMm, that image will go away soon, won't it < 1414264815 510549 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the logs: http://i.imgur.com/PBK8KLD.jpg < 1414264818 48794 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the logs: http://i.imgur.com/PBK8KLD.jpg < 1414264951 720777 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate Quassel < 1414265067 568766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you stared at the sun to see some sunspots, and now your eyes feel a bit weird? < 1414265068 357689 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1414265227 234733 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wearing solar eclipse glasses < 1414265313 819941 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1414265316 653763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :still wearing them? :P < 1414265343 759200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1414265518 744462 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1414266288 446791 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One thing I didn't notice however was a warning about not looking at the sun with them on for more than 3 minutes. My husband noticed this and told me about it. It would be good to include that information more prominently, so it will be blatantly obvious - IN LARGE LETTERS - on the outside of the glasses themselves. It was printed inside the glasses on the ear piece in very small text." < 1414266290 14085 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FUCK? < 1414266376 356259 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any such notice on mine < 1414266408 119254 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, someone commented on that review "It sounds like someone did a bait and switch on you as the CE Certified glasses from Rainbow Symphony which are Black do not say anything like that on the inside frames. It sounds like you recevied a pair of Solar Skreens instead which are a cheaper Mylar film than the Ploymer Film used in Eclipse Shades." < 1414266566 513340 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there are some glasses which say 3 minutes continuous use. These don't, but now I'm worried < 1414267573 218753 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Letters, which include lower case letters (Ll), upper case letters (Lu), titlecase letters (Lt)" < 1414267577 427337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Titlecase letters? < 1414267613 60182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some two-letter "letters". < 1414267630 712437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For which you have both lowercase "ab", uppercase "AB" and a titlecase "Ab". < 1414267631 160431 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd assume "kapitälchen" in german < 1414267637 685461 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1414267721 250940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode DZDzdz < 1414267722 125111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+01F1 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER DZ] [U+01F2 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH SMALL LETTER Z] [U+01F3 LATIN SMALL LETTER DZ] < 1414267750 535564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode Dz < 1414267751 487269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+01F2 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH SMALL LETTER Z \ UTF-8: c7 b2 UTF-16BE: 01f2 Decimal: Dz \ Dz (DZ) \ Uppercase: U+01F1 \ Category: Lt (Letter, Titlecase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 0044 007A < 1414267760 354932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a titlecase letter ("Lt" category), for example. < 1414267784 806487 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy stuff < 1414267813 381945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The titlecase mapping in Unicode differs from the uppercase mapping in that a number of characters require special handling. These are chiefly ligatures and digraphs such as 'fl', 'dz', and 'lj', plus a number of polytonic Greek characters. For example, U+01C7 (LJ) maps to U+01C8 (Lj) rather than to U+01C9 (lj)." < 1414267934 272641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a total of 31 titlecase letters. < 1414268007 638344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four Latin ligatures (Dž, Lj, Nj and Dz -- that is, Dž, Lj, Nj and Dz) and 27 Greek ones. < 1414268074 362661 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1414268110 549127 :thekey!~qwertyo@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1414268115 242927 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are those ligatures again? < 1414268120 444124 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of stuff handled by kerning in the font < 1414268135 724270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREEK CAPITAL LETTER {ALPHA,ETA,OMEGA} WITH {PSILI,DASIA} AND {,VARIA AND ,OXIA AND ,PERISPOMENI AND }PROSGEGRAMMENI. < 1414268181 894559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: "For compatibility". < 1414268243 339140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because of the inclusion of certain composite characters for compatiblity, such as U+01F1 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER DZ, a third case, called titlecase, is used where the first character of a word must be capitalized." (Unicode 7.0.0, chapter 4.2.) < 1414268381 935014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old round-trip convertibility design goal. < 1414269193 985258 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I forgot about my eyes feeling weird < 1414269196 292135 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION relaxes
< 1414269382 22080 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/vision/Galileo.html is interesting < 1414269394 578584 :impomatic_!~digital_w@92.77.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1414269530 632817 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if that's too long to read, at least read the paragraph that contains the word "exploded". < 1414269651 585180 :SignX!4dad5809@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.173.88.9 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1414269770 423724 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably then could inadequate filtering be worse than naked eye viewing, since pupils would be dilated? < 1414269778 557831 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully the glasses are adequate >.> < 1414269981 267893 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1414270051 132001 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1414270375 785454 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1414270383 452871 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1414270420 320357 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1414271093 30779 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-127-68-184.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1414273421 656649 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1414273517 597107 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1414273622 433563 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1414275161 734226 :brandonson!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1414275389 85929 :brandons1!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1414276867 643360 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1414276887 184515 :heroux_!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1414276908 559243 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1414276909 362767 :heroux_!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1414279347 520397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1414279679 749908 :impomatic_!~digital_w@92.77.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1414281149 283132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can LALR(1) grammars have states with more than one kind of reduce depending on the lookahead? <-- i _think_ so, provided that the resulting symbols can only occur with those respective lookaheads. < 1414281198 450112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 minutes to europe's yearly backwards time travel < 1414281207 315515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, 7 < 1414281233 288744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1414281244 652810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 2-1 or 3-2, sheesh < 1414281266 24746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand your response very well? < 1414281356 550959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you have E that can only be followed by c ever, and F that can only be followed by d ever, then you could have E and F reduce from the same thing, i think. < 1414281416 215707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this slightly adapted from wikipedia's example of an LR(1) non-LALR(1) grammar, where both E and F can be followed by c and d, but with different prefixes. < 1414281419 205417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1414281519 408910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it's 3->2. so make that 1 hour 2 minutes, now. < 1414281550 669662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen that example, but I don't think that is my question. What I mean is if there can be different "r" actions in a single row of the table. < 1414281574 672371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't mean that example. < 1414281597 723342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LR(k)#Parse_table_for_the_example_grammar there is row 6 says "r3" three times, and row 7 says "r4" three times; it doesn't have both "r3" and "r4" in the same row.