< 1417219463 155899 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417219598 584114 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417219864 682864 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417222778 764422 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1417222950 683957 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417222960 913913 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4210.pdf -trigraphs < 1417222967 766890 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :die die die < 1417223046 452546 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how rude < 1417223177 917186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A major motivation at the time trigraphs were added was to support people with keyboards that lack < 1417223180 945024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these characters and we believe this continues today. < 1417223185 432207 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1417223320 503013 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2017, it's a standard named 2017 and they're concerned with keyboards lacking square brackets < 1417223325 931307 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they /make/ keyboards? < 1417223344 424308 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :supportin the budget customers < 1417223382 105137 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibm always stands up for the lil guy < 1417223408 210344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully C++ will add support for writing numbers like int x = ??twentythree; to accomodate users like me when my number keys broke < 1417223428 379163 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why not simply use voice input? < 1417223433 469404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define MAX_SIZE ??sixtyfivethousandfivehundredandfiftysix < 1417223535 419092 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pink XD quotes 23 semicolon < 1417223591 835619 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBCDIC is still important? < 1417223651 392648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ already supports user-defined literals < 1417223657 294796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought “it would be hilarious if there’s a variant of UTF-8 based on EBCDIC” and googled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-EBCDIC < 1417223664 132189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"twentythree"_number < 1417223682 184949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :operator "" _number < 1417223720 875404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: didn't you see "non-EBCDIC Unicode" in the pdf? < 1417223731 109518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a terrifying phrase by what it implies the existence of < 1417223800 671923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zzo38 or someone has discussed UTF-EBCDIC in here before. < 1417223815 976049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds on-topic at least < 1417223825 935563 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have to check for unicode encodings based on other obscure encodings of the 1890s < 1417223858 53680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is 9-bit and 18-bit Unicode variants too < 1417223875 970553 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gb18030 is an ascii superset. boooooriiiiiiing < 1417223883 812736 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great Britain 18030 < 1417223894 314458 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are real customers who use EBCDIC. " < 1417223918 667554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-9 is really VLQ but with 9-bits in one byte so 8 data bits and 1 continuation bit. < 1417223919 243422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: those were Aprils' fools specs, though < 1417223920 681671 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, utf-ebcdic encodes c1 as single bytes < 1417223923 185344 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so useful < 1417223933 841335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c1? < 1417223938 284533 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this implies someone's actually using c1 < 1417223945 444356 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: c1 control characters < 1417223954 171181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-1 is best UTF < 1417223966 593307 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :single byte encodings that are like ESC FUCK or whatever in ascii < 1417223968 834217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C0 control characters are more commonly used I think < 1417223980 448579 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...where did the name UTF-1 come from? < 1417223997 541086 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“We’re number 1!” < 1417224001 436926 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was thinking about what a soviet ternary homecomputer might be like, i found myself designing a balanced ternary version of the soviet gost character set < 1417224041 209771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :viznut_: Do you have a posted of such a thing? < 1417224065 57081 :viznut_!viznut@lowfidelity.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't publish anything about that project < 1417224068 629432 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still disappointed i can't find a copy of that book on soviet space computers < 1417224101 82067 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of a channel on Freenode about ternary computers < 1417224104 745486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is bad in general, although if you are using it then UTF-8 is best as it is compatible both with programs that use Unicode as well as programs that do not use Unicode and allows many things still working even in programs that do not use Unicode. < 1417224133 226502 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i still have the book mark even < 1417224142 680272 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :had an ISBN high code of like 13 or some shit < 1417225609 140839 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417225627 786936 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-emcrtsouqhowmlkb PRIVMSG #esoteric :"never odd or even" spelled backwards is never.odd or even < 1417225645 753241 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly "neve ro ddo reven" < 1417225667 698943 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-emcrtsouqhowmlkb PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ you type fast < 1417225676 999370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417225707 98034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417225831 781465 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417226316 212443 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :language defined by reference interpreter or compiler. pro? con? < 1417226328 945044 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Perl 5 < 1417226344 631702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro: turing complete parsing < 1417226347 270980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :con: turing complete parsing < 1417226380 343454 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuk the chomskiarchy < 1417226389 154224 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :smash the chomskiarchy < 1417226399 530168 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is chomkiarchy < 1417226413 905347 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a politician < 1417226425 532413 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1417226603 225283 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after googling, i guess it's a pun on 'patriarchy' and the chomsky hierarchy? < 1417226636 565900 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap noam chomsky is still alive < 1417226647 320007 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is he still alive? < 1417226716 891449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's only like < 1417226717 538921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1417226718 791601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose if he didn't get dead yet, then, he can still be alive. < 1417226720 3182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google noam chomsky age < 1417226720 687195 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky < 1417226720 829800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Noam Chomsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1417226731 702350 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's 86. not unreasonable < 1417226735 538524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is almost 86 years old from Wikipedia < 1417226735 681555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :85 < 1417226745 667431 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same difference < 1417226764 947811 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. he's 17 years older than my grandpa < 1417226785 64229 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only my greatgranduncle is that old < 1417226805 717231 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's because i have centenarians in the family < 1417226820 885481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's like 1.6 obamas < 1417226832 796037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's less than 2 obamas < 1417226879 578367 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my family has people who died at 98 on one side, and 23 on the other < 1417226881 470373 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't... in terms of age? < 1417226888 261340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of obamas < 1417226895 474420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes < 1417226896 33550 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thasnks obama < 1417227006 897833 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm 0.4 obamas old? < 1417227098 310614 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417227246 631921 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you guys have a good knee-high socks day? < 1417227322 413032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but I didn't wear any knee-high socks < 1417227470 654741 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that today? mainly i just vomited, is that moe < 1417227566 970877 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to some poeple in japan it is < 1417227590 879444 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moemoe stomach-acid < 1417227711 702324 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sno't worry i'm toning it down, I'm at school right now < 1417227733 893092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, I love this channel's ever-advancing downward spiral < 1417227967 657369 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:d4bc:e434:a9a8:113a JOIN :#esoteric < 1417228201 813444 :tlewkow_!~tlewkow@198.23.71.87-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417228283 254950 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPv6 yeah! < 1417228414 704797 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:d4bc:e434:a9a8:113a QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417228517 136702 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww ipv6 wnt away < 1417229423 773469 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417229634 549800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41233&oldid=41231 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+291) 10 < 1417229870 655695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41234&oldid=41233 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+92) 10 < 1417229999 193705 :lollo64it!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-226-28.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1417230054 955226 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-195-2.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417230496 469325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41235&oldid=41207 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+158) 10 < 1417230786 51145 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417230900 236967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41236&oldid=41234 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+909) 10 < 1417230965 395274 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41237&oldid=41236 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-30) 10 < 1417231041 950743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41238&oldid=41237 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+195) 10/* Basic Program Format */ < 1417231293 633746 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvivwefgmqefbvel QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417232490 637853 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most common labels in my C programs: heaven: and hell: < 1417233038 706836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use same label names so much all the time < 1417233274 369759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41239&oldid=41238 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+1249) 10 < 1417233293 795622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41240&oldid=41239 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10/* SWITCH RANDOM|value|!value|=value|!=value */ < 1417233363 438152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41241&oldid=41240 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-10) 10/* Some Commands */ < 1417233566 521540 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1417233879 423398 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-emcrtsouqhowmlkb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417235240 614930 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417235636 85616 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417236764 526743 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1417237033 762452 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto heaven; goto hell; goto valhalla; < 1417237088 440744 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( I have had a really bad night's sleep < 1417237183 496729 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1417237480 662808 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Return Oriented Programming is an esolang < 1417237500 351043 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been said < 1417237502 207907 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, too useful ;-) < 1417237558 290711 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is return oriented programming? < 1417237588 144985 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a technique for exploiting buffer overflows on the stack that works with non-executable stacks < 1417237599 273311 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, basically you scrape together a programming language out of the suffixes of compiled function bodies < 1417237611 397783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to put a sequence of return addresses on the stack, all poiting near the end of library functions < 1417237627 181879 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that when those are executed, something useful (to the attacker) happens. < 1417237644 173003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1417237809 102924 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the feeling is certainly similar to that of some esolangs. "Oh, here I can set register x to a value on the stack", up to "here I can write a byte in register foo to the address r+42 where r is another register"; usually the operations have side effects (like setting register y would read some memory and destroy register z) < 1417237831 684592 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(third hand experience, I've read a paper on ROP once or twice) < 1417237868 949189 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason ROP is effective is the same reaosn most turing tarpits are TC < 1417237906 102928 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to add ROP to the wiki because it is a cool esolang but it also arose naturally unlike most constructed esolangs < 1417237930 261721 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there such thing as a "natural programming language"? < 1417237933 980791 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1417237937 721941 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's a whole class of programming languages. < 1417237943 526795 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. forth < 1417237948 403530 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus < 1417237957 168554 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are they natural? < 1417237978 254068 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Chuck Moore says forth was discovered, not invented < 1417237979 191569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Different programs, different library versions, different platforms, all lead to different flavours of ROP.) < 1417237985 109037 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I feel that too < 1417237999 368544 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Wadler said the the only thing we will definitely have in common with aliens is lambda calculus < 1417238007 999235 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: they evolved rather than being conceived through intelligent (or less...) design. < 1417238042 960684 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see, ROP is a natural language becuae the people who wrote the code that enables it did not intend to do so. < 1417238064 585314 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Speaking of ROP. I don't agree that Forth falls inside that category.) < 1417238065 340696 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's like how bugs come live in dark spaces < 1417238072 833451 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interpreter is not by design it is accidental < 1417238150 854954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny. by that definition, "natural languages" aren't. < 1417238163 908455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1417238182 290244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "natural number" a natural language then? I don't quite know that either? < 1417238182 640016 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1417238214 363055 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no-one intended to screw up norman french and anglo-saxon to make english it just happened while they were getting on with their lieves < 1417238228 698496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cluid < 1417238235 95318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1417238235 278703 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 14h 47m 9s ago: It's not my website < 1417238251 535776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow mroman is actually offline < 1417238252 787918 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a nice implementation of ColorForth I can use? < 1417238316 51153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman i used the word in the en:you = de:man sense < 1417238316 195079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417238419 645729 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think this could be nice but i gues its a bit subjective < 1417238447 519664 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm I wonder whether fizzie and I use the same encoding for Dominosa ... < 1417238457 227160 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any comments < 1417238469 119071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it' boils down to "trits or bits?" < 1417238796 277630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit trite question < 1417238824 943451 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln JOIN :#esoteric < 1417238902 398707 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1417239094 143082 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you... Make your own language And get people to use it > _ > < 1417239104 900904 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cna't get people to use it < 1417239122 920502 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why are all my msgs faded < 1417239141 666919 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wipe your screen < 1417239153 880783 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a cloth soaked in vodka < 1417239158 270808 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1417239183 288786 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren what is knee high socks day¿ is that a joke < 1417239193 64398 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I asked about ROP here a moment ago, do you have an comments < 1417239210 853129 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knee high socks day is november 28 < 1417239221 194211 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on japanese twitter < 1417239234 432926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: no, since the logs for yesterday are long as sin < 1417239258 687584 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verbose fuck is a very "extensive" alter for bf < 1417239267 96547 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 = ii = good 28 = nihachi which sounds like knee high < 1417239271 567032 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to add it to the wiki < 1417239276 53212 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know if it will be accepted < 1417239323 945925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure about "the only thing we will definitely have in common with aliens is lambda calculus". Who is this Wadler anyways? < 1417239335 858175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: we don't precisely reject a lot < 1417239338 355645 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soo 11/28 = good knee highs day < 1417239344 124123 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, he researches in functional languages < 1417239355 275905 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ok but is this good? < 1417239360 896581 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i not bother < 1417239373 125211 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get people to use your language you need to make a cool thing where the interface is your langiuage < 1417239385 4465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i'm telling you the logs are long as sin which means you _might_ ask me again in five hours or so. < 1417239392 345814 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like C got popular becuase of Unix < 1417239400 708735 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont really understand that < 1417239419 387774 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you liketo rad the previous conversation? it is 20 lines or so I can paste it somewhere < 1417239424 271136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't worry, it's mostly me and fizzie trying to use speech recognition < 1417239439 223214 :lollo64it!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-226-28.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417239489 326871 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need ideas < 1417239492 823499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok < 1417239500 392095 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1417239514 77491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: Ideas of what? < 1417239531 767512 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :A new language < 1417239557 939369 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also today 11:29 is meat day < 1417239562 421522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wadler is one of the main haskell designers, but i don't think he's been that active in the community for at least a decade. as an FP researcher he _would_ be biased on the universality of lambda calculus, i guess. < 1417239562 564845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you know esolang wiki includes a list of ideas? < 1417239565 313439 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11/29 i mean < 1417239570 7240 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shh < 1417239599 553748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, this gives me the idea of intelligent aliens without any concept of naming, which sounds scary somehow < 1417239611 991780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is possible at all < 1417239618 419950 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1417239641 667636 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meat day? < 1417239659 120606 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :29 = ni kuu = niku = meat < 1417239661 338833 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: link? < 1417239669 5439 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so today is meat day < 1417239674 891161 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1417239679 67516 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pun < 1417239682 343453 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why so many holidays < 1417239692 713207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 365 days in the year Dulnes < 1417239692 856484 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we like to partay < 1417239698 343610 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very punny? < 1417239700 746802 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417239702 288970 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want some advice on contributing to the wiki < 1417239711 661002 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be bold < 1417239713 848672 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donate your soul < 1417239723 329846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rop article would be nice < 1417239725 971292 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat a hamburger it's meat day < 1417239742 687808 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rop article would be nice < 1417239751 844942 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye do that < 1417239779 371064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you repeating things I Say < 1417239782 51549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1417239842 974176 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* is not recognized as an internal or external command < 1417239853 226507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe it is possible I don't know, but I would think intelligent alien monsters must study some mathematics, although it might not resemble our own mathematics unless you look really closely (which may be difficult I don't know), and may be considered as a different order; concept of natural numbers would probably be had due to its usefulness in mathematics although maybe it wouldn't be called "natural". So, possibly the mathematics of lamb < 1417239873 678341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't, however, mean it has exactly the same use of programmers you know! < 1417239951 794814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got cut off after "the mathematics of lamb" < 1417239954 715727 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therer are lots of different weird models of natural numbers < 1417239963 447220 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a bot in malbolge < 1417239972 638960 :password2!~password@197.78.137.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417239992 643173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : So, possibly the mathematics of lambda calculus may be studied too, by some degree. < 1417240017 794376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the aliens naturally think in grothendieck-like levels of abstraction and have trouble getting to something as concrete as numbers < 1417240056 417314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they use computers for concretion instead of abstraction < 1417240064 128413 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loll < 1417240071 135180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do suggest that is possible, but it doesn't mean numbers won't exist. < 1417240115 622337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: at least that might be _possible_. < 1417240119 791971 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :They think with high number equations that humans will never use < 1417240127 997651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they have to have invented spaceships. < 1417240150 291354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unknown. < 1417240154 434780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there was a story vaguely like that < 1417240159 230762 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm i like malbolge its very [abstract] than others < 1417240180 617699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: i'm pretty sure abstract is _not_ the word you want < 1417240194 296512 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1417240195 639519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It that why it is in brackets? < 1417240196 334146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for malbolge) < 1417240199 329718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think it was http://www.negrophonic.com/pdfs/ted_chiang_-_story_of_your_life.pdf < 1417240215 198656 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its very < 1417240222 928475 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :You put the word < 1417240305 434525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe they invented incremental garbage collection in the type system and the spaceships were just an accidental side effect hth < 1417240348 308473 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1417240376 459005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: i think it's pretty much overall designed to fit the word "hellish" in there < 1417240549 78240 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank < 1417240576 514450 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :So oerjan i got that video < 1417240651 993150 :Oren!80646d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.66 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1417240703 108393 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what would the bot do and how would that be possible oerjan < 1417240963 156592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about any video. < 1417240993 154486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot would be able to do some simple reponses that don't require much memory. < 1417241035 259354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge has a strictly limited memory and it takes a lot of cleverness just not to waste a lot of it < 1417241052 63085 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Completely ignores that idea and makes the biggest sloppiest bulk bot in malbolge < 1417241064 679136 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now about a video < 1417241079 531280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i don't actually know how to concretely program in malbolge < 1417241081 176370 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm pickles < 1417241155 583427 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look woman i just wanna work on something very hard and i need a crap language no one uses to do it < 1417241170 508360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm perhaps what you could do is to implement something compact like forth in it. < 1417241183 51315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious as to how this assumption of oerjan's gender came about :p < 1417241195 137273 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its an it < 1417241199 837721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wasn't noticing that < 1417241207 603893 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one knows eachothers genders < 1417241221 38705 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure elliott is a girl < 1417241224 520812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of us may have revealed them. < 1417241241 601518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is definitely a girl < 1417241244 153150 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :foolishly < 1417241254 703189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats elliott -----### < 1417241288 705413 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have some kind of problem with oyrur femininity, oerjan < 1417241306 61860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as much as with your spelling. < 1417241314 36606 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1417241319 133352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: I don't know about nobody uses it, unless it is unimplemented; however there are some that only one or two people use < 1417241319 276219 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ways < 1417241340 334159 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like huh?++ < 1417241396 937401 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever ill try what oerjan said and compact fourth < 1417241425 771883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if you could write a program in malbolge that implemented a simple forth interpreter and managed to compress what's in the rest of memory into its initial data then the rest would be somewhat easy < 1417241450 347547 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1417241458 237973 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does help < 1417241505 418204 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasted 3 years in learning malbolge i guess i can put this to use < 1417241525 948726 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ill do this tommorow im gonna watch a movie < 1417241530 633372 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1417241534 613894 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1417241686 755244 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if anyone developed a protocol that would make sense for the Discworld Clacks < 1417241694 696879 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably including replicating defects < 1417241740 134138 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's semaphore, isn't it? < 1417241843 886436 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... o.O < 1417241893 138105 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't speak o's < 1417241924 810361 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaphore_line i mean < 1417242002 791219 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417242006 563723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: it's like Ook! just more compact hth < 1417242011 195806 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think they existed in reality < 1417242022 84875 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I also don't think any real system likely had protocols for sending images < 1417242036 47644 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417242061 286382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wait there's an old obsolete technology which you _don't_ know about? < 1417242075 577649 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Then you're reading Pratchett wrong. Almost all technology that exists on Discworld also exists on Earth; it just tends to work in slightly different ways. < 1417242104 325046 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i was briefly a voy scout. they still teach flag semaphore. < 1417242125 776905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I thought it was a mashup of telegram and TCP/IP < 1417242128 56905 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, i don't think images were ever sent over optical telegraph. < 1417242147 977206 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :optical telegraph is a pretty obvious solution imo. i mean presumably you've heard of signal fires and lights. < 1417242179 438790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh, I thought the thing with putting gargoyles on the clacks was somewhat like the step towards directed radio transmission. < 1417242181 548473 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there are even older ones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_telegraph < 1417242190 132477 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this one i hadn't heard of, but is again obvious < 1417242190 313856 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I haven't read/don't remember that. < 1417242223 941494 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just watched Going Postal. Read the book but that was years ago < 1417242232 344373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall that story about one of the first times they sent images from a phone booth and it got ruined because the phone operator couldn't grasp the concept that they _really_ didn't want her to interrupt to tell they needed to put on more coins < 1417242284 567381 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently telegraphy was one of the first uses of electromagnetic induction, which i think is neat < 1417242303 181424 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they tested to see if it would work before they worked out the physical laws < 1417242323 493250 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a very powerful concise string rewriting language < 1417242329 696157 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on CFG < 1417242359 915065 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you define syntax like this: ::= 00 | 01 | 1 < 1417242377 822439 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know which book, but at some point they transmit pictures over the clacks, which requires rather high data rates. < 1417242382 943514 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you define rewrite laws like this: 1100 S:x S:y --> x, 11101 S:x S:y S:z --> 11xz1yz < 1417242395 222394 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ths implements BCL for example, but you could implement other things < 1417242398 600047 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417242412 222837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably Monstrous Regiment. Also occurs in Going Postal but as more of a side note. At least in the TV adoptation < 1417242429 94105 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember clacks even existing in monstrous regiment < 1417242432 45613 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't show the vampire turning to dust in the TV adoption of Going Postal < 1417242435 145115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They definitely did < 1417242446 312779 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1417242446 455909 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417242451 79454 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And The Truth, a little < 1417242451 529617 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read a discworld book since highschool, ha ha < 1417242453 270945 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going postal < 1417242458 504271 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was going postal < 1417242463 666429 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had a race < 1417242479 424817 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mail and clacks who sends the book first < 1417242519 591366 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read every book Sir T.P. has ever published < 1417242561 773553 :password2!~password@197.78.137.215 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417242577 575588 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the mail dude gave the part of the book with all the pictures so the clacks dudes < 1417242587 669364 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would have to take time to encode it < 1417242627 459719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the initial contents of the inventory be changed without using scripts? < 1417242636 713187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417242665 284085 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417242698 755464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417242699 725983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, mispaste < 1417242706 87192 :dianne_!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1417243071 960065 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417243074 843022 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1417243075 649419 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1417243075 649544 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1417243075 649601 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :*.net *.split < 1417243174 993320 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1417243523 970222 :password2!~password@197.76.138.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417243588 396480 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no adaptation of Making Money :( < 1417243592 296373 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I haven't read it yet either < 1417243811 520648 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1417243868 491785 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1417243888 15211 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a hilarious bit about economic modeling < 1417243901 260772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna feel like crap today, I've had next to no sleep :( < 1417244157 634620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you go back to bed? < 1417244167 597076 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wide awake now < 1417244177 89921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe it's Saturday so it might be an option) < 1417244353 814240 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, yeah < 1417244358 857467 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just go back to bed < 1417244780 417649 :tlewkow_!~tlewkow@198.23.71.87-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417244813 915804 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then how will you make a language based on the power of sleep deprivation? < 1417245291 923383 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a man who takes his keyboarding seriously ... http://mykeyboard.co.uk/ < 1417245367 874832 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang wiki is down? < 1417245391 302123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo hi < 1417245391 445274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo hi"]} target:#esoteric rest:"hi" < 1417245394 361733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1417245396 123275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1417245401 130845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and HackEgo < 1417245407 639000 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ping < 1417245417 5825 :password2!~password@197.76.138.29 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417245418 838583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is all on Gregor's server, right?) < 1417245437 685596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but Gregor has a tendency to be absent for long stretches of time < 1417245445 778815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially on weekends, i think < 1417245448 700670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417245463 890058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's just extremely slow < 1417245465 371581 :tlewkow_!~tlewkow@198.23.71.87-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417245493 943360 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, esolangs seems to be slooooooooooow but not dead too < 1417245609 790627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : someone poke me in an hour <-- did anyone remember? < 1417245631 128792 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember? I didn't even notice < 1417245637 5579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remembered because I'm smart and competent < 1417245638 649282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did elliott say that < 1417245641 278805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1417245648 758357 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, when did you say that? < 1417245655 339897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i notice *pumpkin isn't here though < 1417245671 61982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, he should totally add bipumpkin < 1417245707 365200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he returned. < 1417245718 460435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not on the network at all < 1417245774 730452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: in the logs < 1417245775 334855 :tlewkow_!~tlewkow@198.23.71.87-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417245797 395852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :far more than an hour ago < 1417245837 798313 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then, I was probably doing something else < 1417245888 241930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you weren't speaking around that time, anyway < 1417245923 27708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I am here but do not speak, normally because I haven't got anything to say < 1417245930 468272 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes because I have no idea what's going on < 1417245944 653968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1417245951 757249 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes because I'm busy in another channel which is attracting all of my attention < 1417245997 839677 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemy < 1417246020 927921 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The Sorting Engine, designed by "Bloody Stupid" Johnson to have a wheel with a pi equal to exactly three, which bends reality to the point that it occasionally puts out letters from the past, the future, or even from alternate realities (ones where the check really was in the post, for example).' < 1417246026 906877 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm sad that wasn't in the adoption < 1417246072 530594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't animate pi=3 physical fact < 1417246147 896472 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Researching keyboards, I think I realized just now that I've been mis remembering how the IBM keyboards worked. < 1417246225 988045 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to go back to bed now < 1417246231 502701 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning. < 1417246283 994172 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I barely remember the book < 1417246312 404360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did remember the jamming of the clacks and was waiting for that while watching, but I don't know if I remember that fromt the books or from reading about the books < 1417246315 123278 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*book < 1417246394 956284 :password2!~password@197.76.153.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417246451 985430 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417246477 318009 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please ping me if there's a Thief of Time adoptation, I loved the book in high school and gave it to a teacher to read < 1417246494 189299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When running to school sometimes I would think to myself 'HERE COMES THE CLOCK' < 1417246541 242789 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM buckling spring keyboards don't necessarily have more travel than, say, Cherry switches, it's that they don't bottom out the same: the mechanism stops before the key hits flat with the base, but rather stops against the frame of the switch. < 1417246614 820392 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417246859 409885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh hendrik's and henkma's A057755 solutions are literally identical (and expectedly very close to mine) < 1417246894 71312 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1417246915 405433 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417246949 380161 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:a5fa:3edb:1568:8213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417247109 100476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e darn if i had knew my 1+2^n`div`54426 was so close to working... < 1417247109 282273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417247219 349541 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:a5fa:3edb:1568:8213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417247287 811901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e *known < 1417247287 956201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417247809 702322 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1417248063 203386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has arrived at the point in the logs where fizzie and fungot get indistinguishible < 1417248063 388360 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the one that symbolizes our family: each saves a million right words to you, you'd become instantly paralyzed with a life-shattering fear, for many people! < 1417248090 321517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how apocalyptic of you < 1417248090 488077 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that you all for them, i have come up with a new saddest thing ever!!... which is also nice, until a really attractive friend of theirs shows, interviews, documentaries about me, make new friends, and start a life of lies? < 1417248100 38612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1417248100 182469 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz* sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1417248308 680216 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls disliking The Colour of Magic but liking The Light Fantastic. I think The Light Fantastic was the first Discworld book I read. Sadly, The Colour of Magic has an adoptation while The Light Fantastic doens't seem to < 1417248430 507564 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1417248432 301222 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you read the logs < 1417248438 630936 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I had no idea that you could only get n-key rollover on a PS/2 keyboard. I wonder why that is? < 1417248734 202343 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: ? < 1417248756 245748 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USB HID protocol involves sending the full keypress state of the keyboard < 1417248862 566561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: cluid is a bit slow hth < 1417248890 862826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as am i < 1417248892 491547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: it's easier to connect keys in some sort of grid than to have a wire (plus ground) to each individual key < 1417248928 202102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 5 hours is probably going to be a gross underestimate today < 1417248942 789905 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah, but what I found odd is that some keyboards have n-key but only if you use the PS2 connector. < 1417248978 328979 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to specifically a limitation in the connector protocol, as Jafet says. < 1417248999 73029 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I dunno. I thought in those old protocols keyboards would just send differential "this key was pressed" and "this key was released" messages. < 1417249010 163889 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a _THIRD_ Moist von Lipwig book? < 1417249058 749377 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "thought" it means I made this assumption based on the AT keyboard controller's programming interface. < 1417249065 42167 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1417249102 453233 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes. Going Postal, Making Money, and Raising Taxes. < 1417249121 784334 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raising Steam, I thought? < 1417249131 971212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taxing steam < 1417249132 962817 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ... was for typo-ing "I" as "it") < 1417249157 911132 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. < 1417249176 74289 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. There's some foreshadowing on taxes at the end of that book, isn't there... < 1417249250 102451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1417249266 329734 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, my wife balked at me spending €135 on a keyboard, so instead I'm just going to try a Durandal; just can't decide which switches I want. Leaning towards the Blues and getting some o-rings to put on it. < 1417249638 965062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the Famicom keyboard protocol? It allows you to push all the keys since it just reads a bit for each key pushed or not. < 1417249752 994489 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: after a bit of research, what one gets from the controller is also what happens on the wire, so from the PS2 protocol perspective there is no reason for this limitation. In fact http://blog.controlspace.org/2010/08/n-key-rollover-what-it-is-and-how-to.html says that USB limits rollover but PS2 doesn't. < 1417249773 983545 :password2!~password@197.76.153.230 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417249798 277726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal Is there a way to say to cabal "fix mixed versions"? I.e rebuild any packages depending on different versions of a package so that everything just works, and I don't get weird errors. <-- apart from the sandbox thing, i vaguely think that if you install all the packages as _one_ cabal install command it will seek versions that work with all simultaneously < 1417249798 421206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417249818 287842 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: I think I interpreted your statement wrong, because I'd never heard of n-key-rollover. My bad. < 1417249878 871118 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417249892 95692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("n" is not meant as a limitation to some particular n, but means "unbounded".) < 1417250012 111623 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah. N-key (as opposed to 3-key, 6-key etc.) means you can hit all the keys at once; each are detected individually. Most membrane keys are only 3-key. < 1417250078 733430 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmmgrwjbxxjuqkln QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417250155 677572 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone type with both shift keys pressed... < 1417250158 719322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1417250160 537062 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB is apparently limited to 6-key + 4 mod-keys. < 1417250169 118001 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417250210 849177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE QUIK BROWN FO JUPS OER HE LA DOG <-- I wonder whether one could recognize keyboard models that way < 1417250229 175006 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I've had problems in the past with things like Emacs or IDE shortcuts based on symbols, because I have a Finnish keyboard, and AltGr is a pain in the arse. < 1417250363 282592 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map head.group.sort$"HE QUIK BROWN FO JUPS OER HE LA DOG" < 1417250364 520872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : " ABDEFGHIJKLNOPQRSUW" < 1417250479 147422 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1417250559 115027 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this has been much of an issue for me ever since I stopped playing Bomberman against others. < 1417250597 834255 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get: H UCK BON FOX JUMPD OV H LAZY DOG < 1417250604 409055 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS Comfort Curve. < 1417250644 902070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huck on fox jumpd ov h lazy dog < 1417250695 891835 :InvalidCo!invalidco@makkara.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417250809 224342 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other nice perk of getting a Cherry MX based board: stuff like this: http://keypuller.com/dsa-retro/ < 1417252179 214110 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1417252534 81673 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417253656 708863 :weissschloss!~viskestel@li607-220.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417253968 141447 :weissschloss!~viskestel@li607-220.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417255639 222267 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417256716 581857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : There was an attempt to add some flags that disable nested functions, but that ran into some other issue that I forget. <-- well the first issue is that gcc simply doesn't _have_ a flag to turn it off. < 1417256733 596223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there was talk about other hacks to achieve it, though. < 1417256756 78225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, it doesn't have a flag to turn off that specifically. < 1417257964 898093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1417258639 182615 :InvalidCo!invalidco@makkara.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1417259057 333786 :password2!~password@197.76.145.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417259247 331029 :password2!~password@197.76.145.134 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417259313 267713 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417260306 217092 :password2!~password@197.76.136.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417261134 141658 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417261178 322795 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417261191 975635 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417261206 184375 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417262179 646578 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417263279 782117 :password2!~password@197.76.136.253 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417264020 456408 :password2!~password@197.76.136.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417265109 86899 :password2!~password@197.76.136.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417265847 587125 :password2!~password@197.76.155.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417266607 448672 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417266750 358872 :password2!~password@197.76.155.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417267146 459279 :S1!~S1@pD9FCAEC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417267460 203289 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jaxbhnntbdoylpxc JOIN :#esoteric < 1417267899 461858 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, irssi has an UPGRADE command? Why didn't I try that... < 1417268043 861212 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417268255 484271 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417268830 442427 :password2!~password@197.76.142.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417269323 485368 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417269852 433363 :password2!~password@197.76.142.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417270080 191183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41242&oldid=41241 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+401) 10/* Some Commands */ < 1417270516 739614 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ordered this: http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/01G1XX1NOBK < 1417270544 979916 :password2!~password@197.76.144.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417270582 757445 :password2!~password@197.76.144.228 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1417270620 414913 :password2!~password@197.76.144.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417272175 253128 :password2!~password@197.76.144.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417272858 635911 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417272883 854580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417273089 19536 :password2!~password@197.76.138.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417273126 680375 :password2!~password@197.76.138.162 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1417273234 312155 :password2!~password@197.76.138.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417273611 115399 :S1!~S1@pD9FCAEC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1417273768 605984 :password2!~password@197.76.138.162 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417274767 616051 :password2!~password@197.78.193.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417274999 362293 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417276629 307597 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417276758 827617 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417278110 170995 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1417278440 288337 :password2!~password@197.78.193.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417278629 492534 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1417278923 567527 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@71-222-118-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417279271 911464 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://regexcrossword.com/ < 1417279509 176945 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1417279686 381123 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417280203 829647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I looked, those were a lot simpler than the MIT Mystery Hunt one, though I think they only had categories up to "Double Cross" then. < 1417281570 31207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :userreport.com ... really?! < 1417281657 937582 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it? < 1417281658 118923 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417281705 551230 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417282037 880020 :MDud!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417282051 691147 :MDud!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417282080 930661 :MDud!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417282113 455553 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr JOIN :#esoteric < 1417282231 945316 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ABC]\s(LU|LP)]* <-- what kind of regex is that supposed to be... < 1417282235 517726 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417282269 189017 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried one of the "Experienced" ones, and there seems to be lots of redundant information < 1417282273 957108 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417282277 895192 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1417282286 340940 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> test < 1417282287 934208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Char]> < 1417282289 969233 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi benzrf < 1417282295 527860 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi FireFly < 1417282312 414948 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :doc Group < 1417282313 689930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘:’ < 1417282318 123937 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heuh < 1417282320 674129 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure whether `relcome is appropriate or not < 1417282321 57658 :benzrf!~benzrf@benzrf.com PART :#esoteric < 1417282326 612958 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I guess not < 1417282540 722719 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :is php on topic here? < 1417282615 919715 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. "PHP considered esoteric" would be good Hacker News bait. ;) < 1417282621 65551 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417282699 639202 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome EvanR < 1417282701 589199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02EvanR: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1417282736 130989 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417283023 973363 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417283058 664493 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417283081 585749 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1417283446 134624 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP can be esoteric depending on programming practices < 1417283455 216851 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has arcana < 1417283502 363133 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like suppose you disallowed access to variable except through that $GLOBALS thingy < 1417283521 885921 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dialect like that would be quite esoteric < 1417283570 476661 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then a lot lof languages have easily abuasble parts < 1417283588 943195 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you cant assign locals without using extract < 1417283589 850560 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/buas/busa < 1417283609 692073 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :or $$ < 1417283626 53487 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that sort of thing. IIRC there is a dialect of Ruby on the wiki somewhere < 1417283789 128300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah "You can go ahead and be proud. You are now among the elite group of poultry who has completed our most prestigious Experienced challenge." ... nah, those were easy. < 1417283802 571715 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And poultry, seriously?! < 1417283879 353157 :password2!~password@197.76.166.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417283881 896606 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you're too chicken for this challenge" < 1417283896 396955 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilove eating chickens < 1417284355 620527 :password2!~password@197.76.166.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417284718 531455 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I'm awake < 1417285086 683704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417285179 691398 :password2!~password@197.76.159.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417285188 99844 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning! < 1417285217 734503 :password2!~password@197.76.159.194 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1417285227 347429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's 20 past 6 in the evening now < 1417285256 4304 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohayou~~ guten morgen~ buongiorno < 1417285260 71574 :password2!~password@197.76.159.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417285282 830729 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about midday where I am < 1417285423 614472 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-011-013.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1417285492 786520 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-011-013.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417285527 530813 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417285724 103083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417285770 64612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417285796 591462 :password2!~password@197.76.159.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417286390 236913 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417286556 949176 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1417286639 386355 :MDud!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417286777 485713 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417287117 417901 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417287120 208984 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417287131 989435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417287358 455503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: /upgrade does terrifying things < 1417287387 815103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it uses the "exec keeps our fds" trick and is a huge scary hack :p < 1417287398 193942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember looking up the details on how it passes the state. < 1417287406 147341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when I made mcmap do it? < 1417287412 601967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaguely. < 1417287432 398040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, my running irssi is over four years out of date < 1417287439 683659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :xmonad also has a --restart which does a serialize-state-and-so-on thing. < 1417287441 621486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that restart'll be a doozy < 1417287448 366998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this doesn't have any security holes < 1417287464 671165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xmonad does it in a less terrifying way, I think, though < 1417287473 118983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it keeps the X socket alive across it, still. Though I haven't checked. < 1417287483 591302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know it serializes the state into a command line argument. < 1417287529 786888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also /upgrade disconnects you from TLS servers < 1417287530 590868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1417287539 834927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't help me at all then < 1417287540 813671 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsurprising though. < 1417287549 147030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: it could serialise that state too < 1417287554 169183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because after I do xmonad --restart, the process command line is like "xmonad-x86_64-linux --resume StackSet {current = Screen {workspace ... layout = "Choose L (ModifiedLayout (ConfigurableBorder Never []) (ModifiedLayout (AvoidStruts (fromList [U,D,R,L])) (Choose L (HintedTile {nmaster = 1, delta = 3 % 100, frac = 1 % 2, alignment = TopLeft, orientation = Tall}) (Choose ..." and so on. < 1417287565 999763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41243&oldid=41101 5* 03106.216.167.230 5* (+129) 10/* Normal implementations */ < 1417287573 673310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Welp, saunatime.) < 1417287574 126629 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417287591 666061 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1417287625 333001 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, but OpenSSL has a lot of state. < 1417287658 799990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1417287659 869473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41244&oldid=41243 5* 03106.216.167.230 5* (+13) 10/* Normal implementations */ < 1417287669 136174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to do this kind of upgrade functionality ad-hoc is sort of hopeless. < 1417287700 469160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wnat /upgrade with TLS, run a local proxy to do the TLS for you and connect to that I suppose < 1417287705 911582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*want to < 1417288117 180360 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes split the program into processes that can be rebooted separately < 1417288129 38942 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i was thinking for a mud server < 1417288137 709767 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :reload the game without disconnecting users < 1417288198 832965 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@24-221-106-195.pools.static.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417288384 186189 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it can't be more horrible than fvwm's restart mechanism < 1417288418 475898 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which does the xmonad thing, serialize state to disk, exec keeping the X11 fd, reload...) < 1417288445 276929 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps not keeping the X11 fd, I forgot. < 1417288509 856899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it have to keep the x11 fd? can't it just reconnect? < 1417288515 688192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if only dominosa numbered squares from 1, I could now save 4 strokes in my dc solution. < 1417288538 311853 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah. I think it does that. < 1417288565 398895 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does X at least try to make this kind of restarting easy by giving windows a unique id that isn't reused quickly? < 1417288722 831588 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417288902 874442 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417288918 495309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so http://esolangs.org/wiki/REGXY is basically a useful subset of sed, except that it allows backreferences to more than nine capture groups (that limit in painful sed because there are no non-capturing parens)? < 1417289641 641114 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417289688 564419 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1417289831 895092 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417289905 865448 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@24-221-106-195.pools.static.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417290059 821883 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1417290429 811275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41245&oldid=41242 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+2100) 10 < 1417290493 662534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41246&oldid=41245 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-75) 10/* Command Summary */ < 1417290509 475493 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1417290530 36953 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1417290544 832640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41247&oldid=41246 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+62) 10/* Command Summary */ < 1417290646 481580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41248&oldid=41247 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+66) 10/* Command Summary */ < 1417290679 201684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41249&oldid=41248 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10/* Command Summary */ < 1417291702 858595 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417291816 284074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't think irssi used the disk. < 1417291836 289152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm not sure if it was irssi or some other program, but I distinctly remember something using a shared memory block for that. < 1417292111 258684 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417292157 623361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did mcmap do again? < 1417292159 821122 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417292159 993537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it being horrible < 1417292208 753117 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a sort of in-between server < 1417292705 657314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the horrible part. < 1417292723 675052 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417292767 451880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :g_file_open_tmp("mcmap.XXXXXX"), raw write(2) of a couple of structures, execl, add an --upgrade command line argument that takes an fd number as argument. < 1417292817 551660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fd argument being the temporary file those things were written. < 1417292834 620633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41250&oldid=41235 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+106) 10 < 1417292849 870893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know that much, considering how much code I wrote for it :p < 1417292855 968144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right. < 1417292960 862092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using GNU stow to manage ~/local/ but now I'm wondering if I should use the "modules" thing -- http://modules.sourceforge.net/ -- we use at the university, instead. I'm not sure I want to have all kinds of silly stuff in path all the time. (Just most of it.) < 1417293020 740233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: have you seen cpressey's toolshelf? < 1417293024 5419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google cpressey toolshelf < 1417293025 135016 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/cpressey/dotfiles/commits/master < 1417293030 341843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google cpressey toolshelf github < 1417293030 954430 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/catseye/toolshelf/commits/master < 1417293036 227284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google catseye toolshelf < 1417293037 191230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/catseye/toolshelf < 1417293040 518947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google catseye toolshelf github < 1417293041 484282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/catseye/toolshelf < 1417293045 54410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1417293158 394197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I remember seeing that. < 1417293185 621110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't remember how it differs from stow. < 1417293198 666090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the automatic building part. < 1417293276 679719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where "building" means source-fetching, configuring, building and installing.) < 1417293350 748345 :dts!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1417293369 318046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yesterday's successful speech recognition chat inspired me to try getting a working copy of our lab's thing at home.) < 1417293391 504350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that some definition of success < 1417293398 312679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello speech recognition < 1417293410 220268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did make me laugh multiple times. < 1417293486 793865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just on my honeymoon < 1417293528 348356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um what? < 1417293546 929755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What what? < 1417293560 321649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was yesterday's successful speech recognition chat? I < 1417293567 969467 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think I've heared of it < 1417293581 517047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're in luck, I collected the highlights to a paste. < 1417293583 716011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a moment. < 1417293584 950983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was when I hope Chelsea defender < 1417293592 384764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hChg there you go < 1417293593 921497 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1417293594 65071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, god, did you show other people this? < 1417293602 78623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just ineiros. < 1417293634 804712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He had the gall to suggest using speech recognition for IRC might lead to "misunderstandings". < 1417293643 975466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to prove him wrong, you see. < 1417293653 676326 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1417293666 15386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw some of that, I remember the "somethign something is shaped" < 1417293672 434892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't know it was speech recognition < 1417293683 23362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just thought we've all lost our minds? < 1417293718 820856 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that sentence didn't seem too off at this channel < 1417293725 527995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"autobots truck driver" was really good < 1417293843 695744 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"F you and G oh T" nice < 1417293869 449393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That was "-- what device are you using [hesitation] or software", I think. < 1417293905 95844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have made some sort of non-lexical sound. < 1417293935 479778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh you meant Ahmed lemon finance 10m kinetic Thunderhead Gangnam < 1417293936 561354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1417293937 302940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1417293944 910842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was all me trying to say "Taneb". < 1417293967 927528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how it got "finance" out of that. < 1417294000 292757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, any of the others, either. < 1417294006 375518 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahmed I can see < 1417294019 29880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got the right vowels < 1417294050 946316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a nasal sound in the middle, and a plosive at the end. Okay, it's somewhat reasonable. < 1417294141 715451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how I missed this < 1417294216 136261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1417294217 663854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1417294252 286153 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“xD O'Toole” is the best thing ever. < 1417294410 459302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it seemed to work well < 1417294821 175548 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wanted to make an esolang, what should i do < 1417294897 655809 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the entire wiki and figure out what hasnt been done yet < 1417295070 586569 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have an idea, write it down < 1417295260 7328 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-229-18.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417295565 348196 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417295566 431462 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1417295687 22226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a page of free-to-all ideas too, IIRC. < 1417295694 371063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: the ideas might not be good ones.) < 1417295787 854259 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:b98f:a7d2:c49d:b7b6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417295824 543824 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just whatever you do, DON'T MAKE A BRAINFUCK-DERIVED LANGUAGE < 1417295914 318109 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1417295951 227421 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have yet to write a brainfuck. I almost went through one of the Racket #lang tutorials for doing one, but got distracted making something else and realized it didn't really show me anything I couldn't figure out myself. < 1417295990 603431 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got most of a brainfuck implementation in Scheme < 1417296053 766111 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in particular, a lot of the tutorials on defining your own #lang modules conveniently fail to go into the dependency issues involved in setting up anything larger than a single sourcefile ...) < 1417296087 129612 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:b98f:a7d2:c49d:b7b6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417296166 315777 :adu!~ajr@ip-64-134-243-121.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417296370 617751 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a specification < 1417296407 58919 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an implementation < 1417296478 897648 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.1 is the normal approach, no.2 is the Perl approach < 1417296504 431948 :Oren!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1417296525 981609 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417296576 329578 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: I'm still actively try to resist writing one. I have an idea on the ideas page that I could turn into a brainfuck-like, but I don't want to. I need some other simple language to modify instead. < 1417296578 441717 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it more common for a spec to exist first, or an implementation < 1417296597 256042 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for esolangs that is < 1417296613 26512 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj JOIN :#esoteric < 1417296614 883508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementation-first is more usual than spec-first < 1417296618 131584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all languages < 1417296621 902928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1417296623 899475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not for esolang < 1417296624 628407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1417296624 771575 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote VIOLET with a spec first. Heresy doesn't have a spec though, it just has Ground Rules. But it's a lab language for me, really. < 1417296628 55646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you recommend me a simple enough language that is definitely not brainfuck, and has some sort of parenthesis that have to be balanced, like the brakcets in bf? < 1417296656 569614 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript < 1417296658 233811 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: regexp? ;) < 1417296675 512944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: simple, I said simple < 1417296690 33067 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is simple! < 1417296697 354729 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp < 1417296718 322929 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a minimal lisp could be very minimal < 1417296728 964188 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORen: hmm yeah, somethign like that could work < 1417296759 776034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a small lisp implementation, though it's not really good, it bothers me that it doesn't have a |let| builtin, nor a way to define macros) < 1417296765 486039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll think if I can modify it < 1417296770 247752 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript is simple idk what you are on about b_jonas < 1417296795 94735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I was also thinking of making a syntax for a lips that looks like BancSTAR < 1417296807 185020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if I could combine these two < 1417296834 823048 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: implement PILOT with s-expressions. < 1417296838 60701 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript is too C-like < 1417296860 518796 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALGOL dialects are hard to parse < 1417296938 170904 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp on the other hand is almost trivial to write a parser < 1417296943 82151 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :If cars could run off code then I'd be set. < 1417296959 815309 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORen: yeah. (read ...) ;) < 1417296967 225662 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its how you use javascript that makes it C like < 1417296973 466299 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :"everything is easy in lisp, read, eval" < 1417296976 64079 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORen: in Python there's a standard library that basically already does the necessary string-split routine. < 1417297043 932083 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascriPt++ or was it JAVASCRIpT++ idk which letter it was < 1417297072 718417 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with ALGOL dialects is the precedence rules. it requires a lot of mulstmt := mulstmt '*' expstmt grabage < 1417297085 178271 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1417297109 351363 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :people use bison for parsers? < 1417297112 680188 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1417297149 314754 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use XML and be done with it < 1417297164 461984 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used bison, but any language with a decent grammar doesn't need it imo < 1417297169 255075 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORen: increasingly, I find myself unable to be excited by a language if I see curly braces in it. < 1417297170 628886 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML, thats another esoteric language people dont usually think of < 1417297179 561596 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what are you trying to do b_jonas < 1417297194 880478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I'll have to think more of this < 1417297197 426765 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :EvanR: I have a friend who works at a shop with an inhouse scripting language implemented entirely as xml tags. < 1417297205 32531 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1417297207 160936 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :unclosed? < 1417297231 726268 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess its real xml if they are "leveraging" the reader < 1417297309 716448 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: It's a surprisingly common thing, sadly. < 1417297363 346310 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EvanR: Yeah, Bison is still pretty common for parsers. < 1417297379 128753 :pikhq_!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ain't the best, but it is at least well-supported everywhere and does at least do the job. < 1417297424 303078 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone recommend a amazing parsing language < 1417297435 598095 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :attoparsec < 1417297442 149061 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what was the question we were on < 1417297446 659346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what about underload? < 1417297453 68520 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also thanks EvanR < 1417297513 131004 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My skin is made of paper my bones are made of glass" < 1417297536 512063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I dunno... maybe that could work, but the problem is that I don't really understand underload < 1417297548 619330 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any decent language can be parsed with no backtracking and no lookahead < 1417297575 383987 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove it! < 1417297587 172539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can view it as either a self-modifying language based on strings, or a simple stack-based functional language < 1417297618 203722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I should do? < 1417297624 325335 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1417297647 292891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to collect all the strange ideas I've had about what esolangs I should make, and then try to see how many I could satisfy together with a single esolang. < 1417297669 981120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are certainly contradictory, but still < 1417297686 456984 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not mix every esolang together and make a new hybrid < 1417297698 631704 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Group project < 1417297699 579608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: because that would be a brainfuck-alike, silly < 1417297711 787577 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoot < 1417297723 126184 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn you bf < 1417297724 57871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417297745 427313 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf is still too algol-like < 1417297763 583207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, ais < 1417297791 681014 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the hegemonic dijkstraic while loop < 1417297792 204989 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are lambdabot's syntax's i forgot < 1417297802 263764 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help < 1417297802 447186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1417297804 843819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1417297804 987041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1417297807 989043 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank < 1417297812 486019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source < 1417297812 629044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1417297813 408107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi b_jonas < 1417297824 544461 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :?list < 1417297824 687270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1417297827 624284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I've been obsessed with LCRNGs over the last few days < 1417297838 206112 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whatRNGs? < 1417297851 194319 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill go play with lambdabot later < 1417297856 622585 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :state' = (state * a + b) mod c < 1417297857 24447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: LCRNGs generally < 1417297865 3106 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best loop structure for any problem is loop( ... if(cond)end; ... ) < 1417297882 279799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but what is an LCRNG? < 1417297885 949944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go complain about Rust on Reddit < 1417297908 950747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Linear congruential, I'm guessing. < 1417297912 186095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1417297914 263388 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1417297919 985835 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best loop structure is a list < 1417297936 128918 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say the best loops in life are free < 1417297967 590949 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the universe were a curved in the right way, you'd have a perfect loop right there, for free < 1417297972 170980 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the condition should be able to go anywhere inside the loop, not just at the start < 1417297985 94412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: newsham's formula is correct < 1417298002 343297 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is that a new esolang? ;) < 1417298010 735327 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dijkstra-inspired people want to take away my break; statment < 1417298015 892846 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :The infinite loop string in bash is very fun < 1417298019 25318 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. We're all living in an esolang right now. < 1417298032 846147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: agreed < 1417298035 6583 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we so are < 1417298042 434285 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're just the holographic projection of an esolang < 1417298049 928383 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that exists on the surface of our universe < 1417298059 180059 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the boundary of our universe < 1417298078 538342 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :The horizon of the universe where matter is faster than light < 1417298087 736848 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget loops, no loops < 1417298112 141412 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so only gotos < 1417298113 729402 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, everything infinitely loops < 1417298136 695355 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite loops while :; do echo 'Hit example key'; sleep 1; done < 1417298211 319945 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no backward branches, only infinite programs? < 1417298232 623783 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the program itself is infinite < 1417298243 344416 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :solving part of the issue right there < 1417298282 801745 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will use a finite looping program to generate an infinite program, ok? < 1417298291 568662 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1417298294 302423 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hf with that < 1417298308 431457 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :describe the program in a timeless manner < 1417298375 196435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORen: kinda misses the "structure" in "structured programming" < 1417298388 987232 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the program be a mapping from the ordinals < 1417298400 767879 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im gonna puke brb < 1417298461 786859 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :down with dijkstra < 1417298470 991924 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f n | even n = emit state | otherwise = state := state + 1 < 1417298491 321230 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1417298500 245428 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my < 1417298555 98315 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want the program to halt you put | n > N : nop < 1417298576 711759 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now assign numeric values to each operation, and take its fourier transform... < 1417298585 937149 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric : or some more interesting condition that beomes forever true < 1417298597 646846 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BETTER NOT SEE ANY FINITE SIGNAL AT ANY FINITE FREQUENCY! < 1417298612 337286 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are good ideas < 1417298629 748956 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :periodic programs == looping!@# < 1417298655 286922 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically infinite looping < 1417298711 979389 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel better continue its infinite looping < 1417298719 635022 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else < 1417298743 270935 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :(er, interrupt handling, nevermind) < 1417298795 836340 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about concurrent esolangs < 1417298935 960439 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prog p n = toEnum ((collatz p !! n) `mod` maxBound) < 1417298953 981983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mod` maxBound sounds like a nop < 1417298955 666289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mod`: not found < 1417298966 550397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, no < 1417298974 348893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mod` maxBound is id unless the argument is maxBound I guess < 1417298975 850679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mod`: not found < 1417298999 688841 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxBound of program instructions enum < 1417299035 933696 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :collatz n | even n = n : collatz (n `div 2) | otherwise = n : collatz (3 * n + 1) < 1417299044 441145 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought about using collatz somehow < 1417299081 528531 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does (prog p) loop for some arbitrary p? < 1417299227 617733 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt !! n crash on a list too short < 1417299247 706076 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it infinite < 1417299257 931945 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1417299259 705731 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :collatz is an infinite sequence < 1417299291 20854 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a good one < 1417299306 779380 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let collatz n = if (even n) then n : collatz (n `div` 2) else n : collatz (3*n + 1) in collatz 55 < 1417299308 116484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [55,166,83,250,125,376,188,94,47,142,71,214,107,322,161,484,242,121,364,182,... < 1417299308 989185 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is odd so it become 4 < 1417299328 567539 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 2 1 4 2 1 4 2 1.. < 1417299333 620629 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let collatz n = if (even n) then n : collatz (n `div` 2) else n : collatz (3*n + 1) in collatz 4 < 1417299334 927689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2... < 1417299389 304783 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let collatz n = if (even n) then n : collatz (n `div` 2) else n : collatz (3*n + 1) in length (takeWhile (/= 1) (collatz 55)) < 1417299390 548828 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 112 < 1417299451 780587 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:b98f:a7d2:c49d:b7b6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417299670 818103 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data INSTR = NOP | PRINTSTATE | INPUT | SUB | ACCUM < 1417299694 976141 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to add the ability for the host program to give a library of functions to a scrip7 script... but i'm not sure what the best way to do this is < 1417299696 778445 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,2,1,4,2,1,4,2,1,... = ACCUM, INPUT, PRINTSTATE, ACCUM, INPUT, PRINTSTATE < 1417299738 916764 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:b98f:a7d2:c49d:b7b6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417299740 673101 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: that is awesome < 1417299743 575144 :adu!~ajr@ip-64-134-243-121.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417299796 681230 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1417299894 519618 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417299917 83982 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mybe a H (for 'host call') instruction < 1417299972 835810 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : fine what that last one was my wife crying ← I found that impressive (re. speech recognition) < 1417300055 911091 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1417300191 669438 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I want a scrip7 script to be able to access C functions particular to the host program < 1417300233 922881 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for example "draw sprite" in a game < 1417300283 969636 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the architecture of such a 'host call' brings up conflicts of C vs scrip7 semantics < 1417300298 82932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: In case it wasn't clear, that was she trying to say "fungot". < 1417300323 591403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, where is it. < 1417300357 151079 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I did realise that, but the second line tripped me up for a split second yesterday before realising crying ~ trying < 1417300359 483998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is holmes.freenode.net not answering. < 1417300372 126980 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :" the Mondeo system also I love smoking bowl out of snow" what was that supposed to be? < 1417300377 330361 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter half, that is < 1417300391 852007 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot [fis@selene.zem.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] < 1417300408 786214 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened at 17:22 < 1417300416 849392 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, never mind, I see you got it right after a while < 1417300425 417530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: "The module system also allows installing multiple versions", and yes. < 1417300471 232813 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417300473 350100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I like how the word your wife wants to say in #esoteric is just "fungot". < 1417300473 833917 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you said " mycorand works" soon after pasting it after module imports should work). i did not intend quine statement by itself to see if a socket read would block or not... < 1417300476 886516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why say anything else in #esoteric. < 1417300681 642399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite so. Though I think it was in response to my unsuccessful attempts. < 1417300740 954110 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1417300762 273242 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll allow host program to "register" new operations < 1417300797 5711 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before calling interpreter < 1417300860 929965 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417300988 99076 :ORen!461856fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.86.251 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1417301484 242304 :EvanR!~evan@unaffiliated/evanr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417301524 959816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An April Fools' Day article about Magic The Gathering detailed a supposed ultimate deck that "never allows your opponent to deal lethal damage" and "ends games quickly". It actually consisted entirely of ways to trigger a "you automatically lose" condition. < 1417301528 407153 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to read this < 1417301756 68434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/fastest-turn-1-kill-guaranteed/ < 1417301864 581137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think there are some decks that will be able to deal lethal damage before you have a chance to lose. < 1417302041 201053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GridScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41251&oldid=41249 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+259) 10/* Command Summary */ < 1417302048 686009 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417302213 11389 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty shachaf < 1417302682 754470 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417302778 636244 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1417302941 426338 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417303007 311027 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll try and enter the IOCCC next year < 1417303050 300275 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the advantage that I'm terrible at C so most of my C is obfuscated < 1417303116 792950 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:b98f:a7d2:c49d:b7b6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417303135 797175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should enter the underhanded c code contest instead < 1417303150 364277 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that makes me feel guilty < 1417303164 295188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you should enter it in addition < 1417303396 274499 :tlewkow!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:b98f:a7d2:c49d:b7b6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417303479 81461 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable184.4-177-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417303991 680267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: instead of going to spain you could go to california < 1417304004 653992 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl < 1417304005 776344 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking maybe Hampshire < 1417304011 306228 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr krabs daughter < 1417304019 810641 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Kent! I know people in Kent! < 1417304057 142242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about New Hampshire < 1417304130 688037 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's even in New Hampshire < 1417304138 274409 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elves < 1417304161 986478 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm British, I can find elves anywhere. < 1417304170 7482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elvis < 1417304171 558716 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've even been accused of being an elf myself < 1417304177 449736 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy birthday Taneb < 1417304179 219824 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, I thought he was in Cornwall < 1417304191 901458 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes, I don't think it is my birthday < 1417304216 952661 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im obviously talking to your alternate universe self < 1417304220 75180 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417304233 207839 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it is my alternate universe self's birthday either < 1417304239 411884 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psht < 1417304261 392460 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's in June < 1417304313 383273 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :How was your day < 1417304324 985385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1417304340 587665 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why are perl bots so annoying to make < 1417304340 851719 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I woke up about 6 hours ago < 1417304362 318564 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elves are terrific, they beget terror < 1417304380 942847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 5 hours here hth < 1417304393 399935 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that... < 1417304394 929761 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :terry pratchett - lords and ladies < 1417304399 144967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think time zones work like that < 1417304407 744289 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1417304413 74172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't work like time zones indeed < 1417304452 198913 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I woke up at four simultaneous times in a single rotation of the time cube < 1417304461 819013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1417304496 719360 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time Cube does have some good advice in it < 1417304503 439861 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seek Awesome Lectures" for example < 1417304504 70368 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example? < 1417304527 268737 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1417304544 332203 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417304562 639113 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy, it gets a lot of things wrong, such as the number of faces on a cube < 1417304574 32281 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1417304577 512807 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i never realized that < 1417304587 526798 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he think a cube has 4 faces? < 1417304611 3009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well does he say the time cube is 3-dimensional, otherwise there are many options < 1417304646 460499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypercubes would have 2d faces < 1417304677 747457 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric : @{[ $text =~ /\b[A-Z]+\b/g ]} >3; replace + with {2,} < 1417304695 603008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to make sense of time cube somehow would be a bit like trying to implement TURKEY BOMB, no? < 1417304706 681591 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1417304712 142858 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://timecube.com/TimeCube_com_newpicture_EarthCube.jpg < 1417304712 654744 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a time cube is < 1417304729 199328 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY BOMB, the first known programming-language-cum-drinking-game < 1417304737 98732 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1417304740 396207 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I parsed that totally wrong < 1417304751 840144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren: ARGH CANNOT UNSEE < 1417304757 360189 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are using the latin word cum but I read it as.... < 1417304764 549972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you, i'm not really upset) < 1417304767 393270 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cum drinking game < 1417304772 969262 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1417304775 323746 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1417304777 548053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Dulnes -----### < 1417304785 522339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T EXPLAIN THE JOKE < 1417304785 665420 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric ::T < 1417304790 299617 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1417304810 421813 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im thoroughly done < 1417304819 141034 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417304846 360171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, where is that from? < 1417304850 98024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1417304852 802231 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oren, rather < 1417304852 945452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's a locally famous Finnish person with a somewhat similar theory about how everything is made out of ether vortices, he spends time selling his self-published books about it at universities and such. < 1417304862 963604 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/catseye/Specs-on-Spec/blob/master/turkey-bomb/turkey-bomb.markdown < 1417304873 852443 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from here, firstline < 1417304875 36025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kauko_Nieminen.jpg < 1417304934 689557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the TURKEY BOMB rules preclude using cum as the drink < 1417304954 914808 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :((programming language) cum (drinking game)) < 1417304963 671659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I know. I'm just saying. < 1417304978 340747 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The women in these men's lives clearly had NO idea what was going on the the back yard. Free-range kids and turkey frying just DONT go together. < 1417304981 69167 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not (programming language ((cum drinking) game)) < 1417305118 698048 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417305120 725748 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why formal grammars are important < 1417305162 290904 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys < 1417305205 347149 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1417305207 734580 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah? < 1417305218 881849 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop talking about this < 1417305225 30917 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417305225 494326 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY BOMB, the first known programming-language-cum-drinking-game < 1417305227 878506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with cum drinking < 1417305229 799254 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leaves < 1417305237 965414 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well for one < 1417305245 79991 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :STDS < 1417305249 921815 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :high in protein < 1417305261 261413 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :To much protein < 1417305274 769865 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for your gainz < 1417305277 333062 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1417305286 173091 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also this is off topic < 1417305293 762069 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY BOMB, the first known programming-language-cum-drinking-game < 1417305295 432754 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if a new guy came in and saw < 1417305298 164526 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :That < 1417305316 524673 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote read the bible < 1417305318 62198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :407) So... God has jizzed on everything? have you even READ the bible? < 1417305342 244901 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1417305360 671727 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1417305379 591223 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first time I went on here we were discussing someithing worse < 1417305381 785367 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417305389 754187 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a list of files with mmddyy_nnnnn format < 1417305400 146138 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1417305401 307595 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :What were you discussing < 1417305414 51956 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :necrophilia iirc < 1417305424 100508 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im done < 1417305445 985990 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Oren why < 1417305457 704948 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look in the logs for three days ago < 1417305466 319467 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldbe there < 1417305469 815185 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im kinda scared < 1417305491 555953 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmddyy? You monster < 1417305492 185699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it vore < 1417305509 935084 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1417305514 220322 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1417305518 877649 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well i remember that < 1417305526 414623 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started it < 1417305548 957193 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I came on here and that was the first topic < 1417305553 402293 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric : How do I find the file with highest number in postfix "nnnnn" using perl < 1417305569 160460 :Oren!8a33d313@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.51.211.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :par for the course on the internet of course < 1417305599 193222 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdpentdymlhxzwtj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some one set that as topic