< 1417910444 714864 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bisymcompact space < 1417910480 894941 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course http://i.imgur.com/9xt3PxP.png < 1417910492 876625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that originally 'metaphysics' basically just meant 'physics: volume two' < 1417910736 208542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now I can know! < 1417911041 975401 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1417911364 564314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417911541 251203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 60 < 1417911554 604961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 60: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1417911565 319030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1417911593 115858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been reading these. < 1417911729 452014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that? < 1417911741 997034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you put your name because you want to read it? < 1417911911 35371 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hows your pokemon games < 1417911928 516817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: Do you mean a pokemon card game? < 1417911935 84068 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeh < 1417911957 715246 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are people using it yet? < 1417911963 674263 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good god that was a bad idea. < 1417911972 524841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using what exactly? < 1417911979 384323 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the future I should use a thermometer when I deep fry things. < 1417912037 245896 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol? what were you deep frying < 1417912050 951433 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catfish. < 1417912068 388080 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem isn't that I burnt the food, the problem is that the oil got to its smoke point while I was breading the catfish. < 1417912081 451380 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417912092 812282 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now the apartment is filled with smoke. < 1417912093 575948 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So my fungeoid IDE can open files now < 1417912094 845077 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1417912096 502218 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/CrazyM4n/d02380667be743be1310 < 1417912105 388982 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :awsom d00d < 1417912197 587543 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you roll the catfish is flour? < 1417912207 649484 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Equal parts flour and cornmeal. < 1417912217 549909 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a bit of seasoning. < 1417912223 489221 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, used buttermilk. < 1417912227 431056 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Season after btw < 1417912238 304246 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skim? < 1417912250 924170 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1417912267 876017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: What exactly are you asking about? I didn't write a program or anything for people to use; just some new cards, and some puzzles, and I do not know whether or not anyone is using those in any way. < 1417912298 50626 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a different oil < 1417912311 170261 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Why? Peanut oil has a very high smoke point. < 1417912319 563429 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem was too high temperature and inattention. < 1417912325 746814 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats what i meant the puzzles < 1417912331 113504 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell how did you get the oil to 400 degrees? < 1417912335 241245 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Quit: mitchs < 1417912335 809294 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pay attention to your food! < 1417912349 286953 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Quit: later < 1417912353 398618 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a gas stove? < 1417912360 82368 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whyyy < 1417912362 697564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: I don't know if anyone is *using* them... < 1417912398 41096 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause there's no point in having a deep fryer if you're not dumb like I just was? < 1417912417 327042 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i have a gas stove and i fry things in bacon fat and it never caught fire < 1417912425 464198 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't catch fire. < 1417912430 651780 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or smoke < 1417912440 256706 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats not what i put thougj < 1417912466 81300 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why cook inside though? < 1417912488 259018 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude don't leave the gas on so high < 1417912496 577810 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that was my problem. < 1417912506 363725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also made u several new cards for the game of Pokemon Card. Some don't have any names yet but you can make such a suggestion; you can also add your own cards if you have some to add. < 1417912539 393608 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey, guess my stove can get pretty high in heat, so there is at least that. < 1417912563 391146 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you've proven you can probably make candy on that stove < 1417912573 990593 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1417912592 775027 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1417912620 755797 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you've never made candy? < 1417912674 774850 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417912710 385857 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw u elliott :( < 1417912730 749365 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gettin my hopes up and dashing them upon the pavement < 1417912741 655275 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1417912770 139122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he triggered pbflist even though there's no new pbf < 1417912781 585621 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no intention of repeating the above mistake
< 1417912821 497104 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417912866 37164 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's your favorite famicom game/software < 1417912891 265041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know. < 1417912915 891096 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubble b^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H < 1417912991 221369 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thunder Emperor : The Legend of Pikachu < 1417913028 646636 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a real game, made by a fly-by-night operation from china < 1417913105 7196 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lei Dian Huang : Bi Ka Qiu Chuan Shuo < 1417913108 964230 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :So enjoy your catfish pikhq < 1417913119 948844 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1417913129 6689 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it was worth the smoke though. < 1417913132 176993 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ate it already? < 1417913166 505761 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I was a bit busy eating before I came here. :P < 1417913172 868306 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldnt it be hot? < 1417913186 438810 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet your mouth hurts < 1417913190 129268 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1417913200 141838 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think I fried it in still-smoking oil? < 1417913202 716403 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1417913216 507838 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cooking with pikhq < 1417913237 701985 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OH GOD THAT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA I AM NEVER DOING IT AGAIN" < 1417913240 201909 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An actual quote. < 1417913241 111054 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1417913252 710585 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give it to hack < 1417913341 323670 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i need ideas as to what the characters FS and EOT should do < 1417913357 483515 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is ^\ and ^D < 1417913606 528413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make up some card that can cause damage according to cards in opponent's trash. < 1417913626 157619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also another card could be damage according to the cards in your own trash. < 1417913670 458330 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the formal term in pokemon cards? "hah i put your pikachu in the trash" < 1417913736 457271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although when a card is discarded (which puts it into the trash which is also called discard) due to having too much damage equal or exceeding their hit points, then the card is knocked out. < 1417913807 95846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, then it is called knocked out. < 1417913812 419489 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417914130 509618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know about Pokemon Card much? < 1417914165 198701 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417914421 756122 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417914605 29743 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417914625 451686 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your moods like atm guys < 1417914644 731533 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :super happy < 1417914670 827651 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this an accurate mood < 1417914697 608099 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. my TTML translator is working very well and i am writing the TTML manual in TTML. < 1417914754 113522 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTML? < 1417914798 705266 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/470419 there is a wiki article which describes it < 1417914819 185824 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is Teletype Markup Language < 1417914907 464598 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :an esoteric markup language < 1417915085 266897 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ttml < 1417915100 523739 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like XTML < 1417915136 867282 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but luckily it isn't tag based < 1417915148 798088 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amaze < 1417915185 18331 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead you do ^Abold^B ^Eitalic^B ^Funderline^B < 1417915209 965613 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ^B simply returns text to normal < 1417915234 262329 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think 'discard pile' is the official name < 1417915283 692504 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ...couldn't you at least use the same control characters as IRC does? < 1417915296 296591 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what? < 1417915302 28863 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Bbold^O ^Iitalic^O ^Uunderline^O < 1417915307 624897 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oren < 1417915338 172501 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, ^I is also tab, of course, which might cause issues for you) < 1417915342 247985 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ^I is tab and ^B is start of text < 1417915366 279031 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in TTML ^I is used to move one half-char right < 1417915388 419186 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use ^H to overstrike characters? < 1417915390 310159 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can center the bottom of a fraction < 1417915395 736521 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you can < 1417915400 657442 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1417915421 129712 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vertical tab goes one half-char down < 1417915433 336195 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can make subscripts < 1417915457 368044 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am writing a more in-depth manual with examples < 1417915469 966755 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in TTML itself < 1417915803 551850 :InvalidCo!invalidco@makkara.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417915895 244320 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/lwB2E4S.png < 1417915897 915064 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1417916025 276615 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost to a state where it is usable < 1417916053 634216 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's glitches aren't too life-destroying < 1417916056 807331 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1417916511 979449 :InvalidCo!invalidco@makkara.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1417917350 350386 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417917801 367888 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417918121 823795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1417918270 764545 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ctrlv.in/470448 < 1417919618 628120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41380&oldid=41379 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+17) 10 < 1417920420 152488 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417920975 968761 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My implementation of http://retroforth.org/docs/The_Ngaro_Virtual_Machine.html now manages to display the retro forth's prompt < 1417920987 881055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then proceeds to crash after taking keyboard input < 1417921021 112281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops now you have to fix it please < 1417921027 628706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it partially can work < 1417921028 201683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417921144 104744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417921155 204137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417921156 897321 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417921553 587031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the program need to know the endianness of the host system? < 1417922698 29658 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417922904 808391 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1417923040 485521 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417923071 39175 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1417923238 750650 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417923250 148508 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417923659 517102 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417923938 50788 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1417924123 223626 :oren!80646d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417924286 983517 :oren!80646d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.100.109.4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1417925265 951453 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417925551 276896 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417925574 725950 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeahlo. < 1417925636 109792 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i finally figured out the css sorcery necessary to make a better conversion from ttml to html < 1417925685 720049 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, one that doesn't use a separate div for every character in the file < 1417925695 66189 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1417925830 513920 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i've now updated the translator. still doesn't support greek and cyrillic but i'll get to that maybe tomorrow < 1417925866 299381 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417925941 836165 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is dts < 1417925990 235676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: div, not span? seriously? < 1417926015 652101 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :./div < 1417926026 687177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, the LCRNG problem I was talking about a while ago < 1417926038 397742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear it may be NP-complete; the obvious generalization of it is, at least < 1417926042 755506 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Div for what oren? < 1417926045 495169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm seeing if I can redefine the problem < 1417926108 41666 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 teh new version uses span. but each span is still position absolute. < 1417926132 430191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: this is close to the least semantic markup possible < 1417926176 86269 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally in order to apply the right stuff to each char i made a div for each one. now it uses a span every time the formatting changes < 1417926197 656037 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of context, Span tags are annoying < 1417926217 3281 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :each span has a whole bunch of classes attached to it < 1417926229 842190 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which put in the formatting < 1417926242 315038 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :spin; div < 1417926267 749519 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :is probably the worst thing i could have put in my terminal < 1417926321 246608 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :It forcably flipped everything upside down and now i have to start over < 1417926331 599220 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1417926375 310071 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing i wanted to see what happened if i spun div tags over some stuff < 1417926386 551130 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing good apparently < 1417926394 413368 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 what do you mean semantic markup? < 1417926425 188255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: markup which lets special-purpose web browsers automatically reformat it < 1417926429 731330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. for mobile, or for screen readers < 1417926437 320979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for previews of search results on search engines < 1417926460 969096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: terminals don't work like that < 1417926473 556459 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd prefer that those thingies read the original TTML. < 1417926512 779 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this is designed for typesetting those old thingies,,, wahtymcallem, books < 1417926535 28368 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a teletype-like style < 1417926595 637259 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an esoteric markup language < 1417926694 650803 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not terminal i used the wrong word sorry < 1417926706 341629 :juned!~juned@175.100.146.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417926778 639640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41381&oldid=41380 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+2612) 10added exapmle < 1417926810 181070 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is an eaxamlpe < 1417926819 957022 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*example < 1417926863 806003 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes to press the right buttons IN THE RIGHT ORDER
< 1417927221 554923 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat did you mean the firefox command line or something like that? < 1417927415 216460 :juned!~juned@175.100.146.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417927437 351683 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh < 1417927457 334923 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes back to the podcast i was listening to
< 1417927600 67686 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1417927661 966931 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1417927853 866074 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C H O + 3O -> 2CO + 3H O^M^K^\ 2 6 2 2 2^M < 1417927876 29757 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1417927882 582786 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong terminal < 1417928110 30024 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does damn have an n in it < 1417928432 125095 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you dont mix it with dam < 1417928531 72884 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 NICK :MDream < 1417928563 389180 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is now sunday < 1417928855 549683 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1417928868 654853 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:06 pm for me < 1417929268 944996 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417929300 114152 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417929309 401685 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417929338 968320 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snag.gy/l4WzZ.jpg < 1417929538 724077 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417929563 565048 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Font? < 1417929595 5184 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417929608 412886 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417929657 648145 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what font it's just whatever monospace font firefox has < 1417929706 860187 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am testing all possible combos of directives to make sure none of them glitch up < 1417929710 158956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the font Firefox will use depends on what is installed on the system which depends on the operating system you are using as well as what fonts you have installed < 1417929726 523573 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn < 1417929748 720471 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use palemoon < 1417929757 664349 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or water fox < 1417929762 229654 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk its better than firefox < 1417929762 452029 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :n't remember lorem ipsum so i wrote the most memorable latin sentence from my latinclass < 1417929788 11718 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writes an entire paper in wingdings < 1417929827 625654 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancilla grumionem delectat -- the slave girl delights grumio < 1417929991 112233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lorem ipsum is basically latin but with the frequencies of letters, digraphs, etc. changed slightly so that they match English < 1417929995 436666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly word lengths too < 1417930000 947713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the result is very hard to understand as Latin as a result < 1417930168 979211 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417930201 767756 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417930209 814949 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417930376 869410 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417930416 826592 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417930487 985783 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417930501 115764 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417930996 19278 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417931089 370321 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1417931098 768965 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417931111 371048 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417931292 861133 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snag.gy/KjwPO.jpg < 1417931306 119310 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing math < 1417931933 431180 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snag.gy/Oatlf.jpg < 1417931946 217212 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark colors < 1417932194 439367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: "optimised" firefox builds are snake oil and usually slower than the official binaries < 1417932266 808685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they usually also come with a lot of dubious patches by developers of questionable competence < 1417932324 636232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same applies to chrome/ium) < 1417932826 139534 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when in doubt, pkill -9 plugin-container < 1417932944 566255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sure like kill -9 < 1417932972 67260 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill processes first, ask questions not at all < 1417933097 729658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" It forcably flipped everything upside down and now i have to start over" ← I don't believe this actually happened < 1417933109 873999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your computer runs entirely on your own thought process < 1417933124 762504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, your computer experience appears to be how computers would act in a dream, or the like < 1417933165 473812 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when your keyboard acts up, pkill -9 ibus-daemon < 1417933181 34115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I do "sudo killall pulseaudio" when logging on < 1417933196 119883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's because audio doesn't work until I do, and the standard kill (not -9) seems to be very consistent in fixing it < 1417933240 373113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41382&oldid=41381 5* 03BCompton 5* (-1) 10/* Example */ Typo < 1417933260 258101 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... that was my bad < 1417933269 430771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :; < 1417933366 265733 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even really know what the other signals do, othert than that -9 is the one the application can't ignore < 1417933417 232103 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on man kill < 1417933420 291642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two that can't be ignored: 9 and 19 < 1417933496 87386 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see. < 1417933676 403198 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ofc it didnt actually boom flip it upside down//real time... Why would you think that [ it re listed everything and alot of things were missing, it took about 20 minutes for all of it to load back ] :I < 1417933695 968447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1417933707 352115 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, Screen white pages and then it re lists the output < 1417933735 652977 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not WhoooOOooOoo throwing numbers around as if it was water through the air < 1417933805 170954 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk what you thought i meant < 1417933833 801087 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats your face
< 1417933836 478057 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly < 1417933861 247745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I normally interpret "flipped everything upside down" as flipping everything upside down < 1417933874 289632 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its a saying as in < 1417933880 296839 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything went to shit < 1417933928 632176 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also should be interpreted as ( What if your entire room reversed its gravitational pull.) < 1417933999 931223 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Õ-Õ < 1417934204 741147 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on any site with jquery < 1417934206 831740 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery('div').css('transform','rotate(180deg)') < 1417934212 358687 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :into console < 1417934235 359516 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will flip everything < 1417934251 35220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only every div < 1417934281 707546 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery('*').css('transform','rotate(180deg)') < 1417934287 555916 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1417934297 272690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: coherent as ever < 1417934368 159619 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery('*').css('transform','rotate(40deg)') < 1417934372 574364 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better < 1417934426 426535 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will mess up the entire page into insany < 1417934527 797969 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it does that whenever the number of degrees is not a right angle < 1417934644 776110 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i put it with say 0.5degrees into a greasemonkey it will be awsome < 1417934671 39118 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything on the page will be slightly crooked < 1417935045 809887 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snag.gy/rOgVL.jpg < 1417935058 295061 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott :I nice to see you too < 1417935096 271010 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now alljquery sites are crooked < 1417935782 293277 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417935936 934830 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417937038 905460 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417939395 160266 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417939621 988654 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1417939674 779709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417940070 608506 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit i think i'm the only person in this whole building < 1417940094 49034 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the caretakers perhaps < 1417940128 490118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what building < 1417940146 577734 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire comp sci building at university of toronto < 1417940160 944104 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes i am at school at 3 am) < 1417940232 604126 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire building is quiet as a graveyard < 1417940268 947675 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually there's at least a few other people here studying < 1417940427 24654 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417940445 171417 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417940451 427178 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417940492 388027 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jarcane how come you rejoin the channel every 3 hours? < 1417940556 461824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: "ping timeout", so it's due to becoming disconnected from the server < 1417940566 761735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally that happens due to a bad connection and isn't intentional < 1417940663 829780 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he joined under j_arcane_ and then timed out under j_arcane, then named j_arcane_ to j_arcane < 1417940677 123652 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417940743 313618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: when a connection times out, it times out at a different time at the two ends < 1417940746 722452 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so somehow he knew that as j_arcane he was going to timeout, and he established another connection preemptively < 1417940751 13666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clearly timed out at J_Arcane's end first < 1417940759 2528 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417940762 34678 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417940769 212761 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see it happened again < 1417940797 503032 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :his computer is psychic < 1417940850 853734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the computer knows it hasn't had any connection for what, 180 seconds? < 1417940855 563945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonable to guess it's timing out based no that < 1417940865 909590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the computer does figure things out first < 1417940893 387792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Freenode is the pinging end of the connection, J_Arcane is the ponging end < 1417940905 980512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so J_Arcane's server can see "I haven't had a ping for X amount of time, Freenode normally sends them faster than that" < 1417940924 12892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas Freenode is still waiting for the ping reply, and waits (by the look of things) 4 minutes for it < 1417940928 930881 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1417940962 74988 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so j_arcane's computer gives up before freenode does < 1417941012 806826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, and it also learns that something has gone wrong before freenode does < 1417941024 682259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, from time to time I've had such lag that I can say something < 1417941027 350995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disconnect, reconnect < 1417941031 581204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then see myself saying that thing < 1417941040 465438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it finally got out of the lag < 1417941077 421359 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. i'm at university in an empty comp sci building so my connection is great right now < 1417941133 500220 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess the lag isn't something i've experiencd yet < 1417941190 276748 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps when i go up north for christmas i'll see it < 1417941254 306120 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417941277 562087 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ping to freenode.net is 2 ms < 1417941346 266621 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417941354 295644 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417941371 494946 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417941384 519258 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey are you even awake J_arcane? < 1417941596 742249 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1417941858 205342 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417941950 179552 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417941957 800261 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417941980 323964 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417942136 271353 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417942206 226002 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417942206 579607 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417942281 139742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When thinking about the level20.tex game one thing I imagine that the more major temples of Gxxyuxihuvxi are going to be more confusing (whether in service, geometry, or otherwise) than the minor ones; the more major they are, the more confusing it would be. < 1417942328 262552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such god of confusing monsters it would be; minor temples are being more mundane... < 1417942766 132886 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417942786 341190 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417942791 511823 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417942859 663827 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1417943086 662410 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1417943100 814667 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://github.com/mokus0/lambdabot/pull/95 ... I wonder which discussion about this I missed. < 1417943170 10223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Might've been in #haskell-blah < 1417943179 675341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I complain all the time, though. < 1417943183 870596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is way too verbose. < 1417943191 913542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather certain people abuse it way too much. < 1417943300 384805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can reduce the channel output to 3 lines (at some point I changed this from 80 characters total to 5 lines of 80 characters each, feeling generous) < 1417943311 430258 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417943390 156286 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417943395 247465 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417943407 565016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason to allow more than one line in channels? < 1417943603 869488 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id < 1417943605 578163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0) < 1417943605 724370 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M165613034931687406129741.show_M1656130349316874061... < 1417943605 871556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1417943605 871682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1417943605 871756 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : instance Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable Data.Dynamic.Dynamic < 1417943685 695097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could fit a lot of that message on one long line. < 1417943779 172696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. If people would a) try to make their code correct, and b) actually try to read the error message before resubmitting broken code, then the extra lines would help. The M165613034931687406129741 module name is stupid but that's mueval/hint territory. < 1417943856 483485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \xs ys -> [xs] == ys < 1417943858 405410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test): < 1417943858 624826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : () [] < 1417943875 729544 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also goes through that lim80 function < 1417943899 230780 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417943903 942890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :djinn is a big offender < 1417943918 715949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess people don't use it that much, though. < 1417943931 87466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if people used /msg much more. < 1417943953 724793 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1417943962 544693 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn \a b c d e f g -> g c d e c d a b < 1417943963 110189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1417943976 932039 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn f a b c d e f g = g c d e c d a b < 1417943977 390457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1417943979 177399 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417943979 871642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1417943983 486528 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am I doing < 1417943985 373182 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417943991 648372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse djinn < 1417944035 912347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (a -> b -> a) -> (a -> a) -> ((a -> a) -> b) -> a < 1417944036 293978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1417944087 150042 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (a -> r -> r) -> (a -> r) -> (b -> r -> r) < 1417944087 493608 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f _ _ _ a = a < 1417944092 925781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1417944116 588651 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I need to get it to produce cases? < 1417944179 117025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, pattern-matching is what takes vertical space. < 1417944212 680371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Either (a -> b) (c -> d) -> Either a c -> Either b d < 1417944212 947981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1417944236 643640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Either (a -> b) (c -> d) -> a -> c -> Either b d < 1417944237 88102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b c = < 1417944237 264082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1417944237 409065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left d -> Left (d b) < 1417944237 409207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right e -> Right (e c) < 1417944289 145261 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Either (Either a b) (Either c d) -> Either (Either a c) (Either b d) < 1417944289 677851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = < 1417944289 847560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1417944289 847706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left b -> case b of < 1417944289 847785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left c -> Left (Left c) < 1417944289 847865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right d -> Right (Left d) < 1417944291 518901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right e -> case e of < 1417944293 557353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left f -> Left (Right f) < 1417944295 521939 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right g -> Right (Right g) < 1417944299 672617 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful. < 1417944334 2609 :scounder!~scounder@phroa.lost.the.game.rikairchy.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1417944374 872065 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(clearly that's way more than 5 lines; the plugin doesn't seem to attempt to limit its output at all.) < 1417944417 420592 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something I was blissfully unaware of... < 1417944430 139055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are a few that output their own way. < 1417944436 353581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe @src too? < 1417944562 601535 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b c d e f g -> b a c g e d f < 1417944563 145017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((((flip .) .) . flip . (flip .) . flip) .) .) . flip id < 1417944575 173342 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b c d e f g -> b e a e c e g e d e f < 1417944578 460818 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :((((flip .) .) .) .) . flip flip id . ((flip . ((flip . (liftM2 flip .) . flip . (flip .)) .)) .) . flip flip id . ((flip . (liftM2 flip .)) .) . flip flip id . ((flip . (ap .) . flip) .) . flip flip id . (ap .) . flip flip < 1417944608 723517 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect this is the bigger offender in practice. < 1417944638 555913 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bigger than @djinn, because it doesn't require thinking about types) < 1417944698 28124 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for @src, it's a matter of its database... < 1417944701 367384 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src sequence < 1417944701 765088 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequence [] = return [] < 1417944701 929509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequence (x:xs) = do v <- x; vs <- sequence xs; return (v:vs) < 1417944702 94463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :--OR < 1417944702 94596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequence xs = foldr (liftM2 (:)) (return []) xs < 1417944717 481553 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src compare < 1417944717 883094 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare x y | x == y = EQ < 1417944718 56615 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : | x <= y = LT < 1417944718 56755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : | otherwise = GT < 1417944753 710099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (!!) < 1417944754 61934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xs !! n | n < 0 = undefined < 1417944754 222981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] !! _ = undefined < 1417944754 223127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x:_) !! 0 = x < 1417944754 223205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_:xs) !! n = xs !! (n-1) < 1417944774 60353 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ouch) < 1417944801 669250 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src withMVar < 1417944802 83778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. < 1417944804 855607 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src withMVar_ < 1417944805 208348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Are you typing with your feet? < 1417944813 673348 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src modifyMVar_ < 1417944814 29489 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :modifyMVar_ m io = block $ do < 1417944814 247019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a <- takeMVar m < 1417944814 394273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a' <- Exception.catch (unblock (io a)) (\e -> do putMVar m a; throw e) < 1417944814 394415 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : putMVar m a' < 1417944892 620480 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417944903 224394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah, it has full typeclasses in there. < 1417944931 224414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@src Arrow will produce 7 lines) < 1417945145 172908 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does sequence do? it looks like [M a] -> M [a] < 1417945167 109009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: exactly. < 1417945200 181521 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1417945226 831908 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sequence ["1","23","456"] -- of course, demonstrating this in the list monad usually causes more confusion than enlightenment < 1417945227 996739 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417945228 496206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["124","125","126","134","135","136"] < 1417945297 764139 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1417945311 771564 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1417945327 106569 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does make sense < 1417945327 393837 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the list monad, the type is [[a]] -> [[a]], and the effect is to compute the cartesian product of the input lists. which makes sense if you think of [a] as a list of choices between several values of type a.) < 1417945474 141195 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i should be able to do [[a]] >>= something < 1417945678 775833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let { x = >>; y = x []; } in x < 1417945680 189962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input ‘>>’ < 1417945689 34045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let { x = (>>); y = x []; } in x < 1417945690 257085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m a -> m b -> m b < 1417945703 211096 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, no, I want it monomorphism restricted < 1417945820 858142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>>) `asAppliedTo` [] < 1417945822 3260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> [b] -> [b] < 1417946075 46991 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivbbxafjxkttlxyd JOIN :#esoteric < 1417946120 567028 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks < 1417946300 653223 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivbbxafjxkttlxyd QUIT :Client Quit < 1417946310 854710 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln JOIN :#esoteric < 1417946375 724723 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Why am i getting a date in the freenode server logs when it logs me in saying December 31 1969 < 1417946386 917547 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has it been that long < 1417946402 512359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: that's time 0, adjusted for a US timezone < 1417946407 477359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's probably a bug < 1417946418 858453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: a date from what? < 1417946439 129215 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :When i log it freenode does a bunch of checks like < 1417946460 405176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: do you mean a "server was created" time, or a "current time is" time, or a "channel was created" time, or something else? < 1417946495 312656 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current time is 12:00 PM December 31 1969 < 1417946550 814645 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is kind of cool < 1417946568 752403 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its at the top of the page that checks stuff like ( looking up your host name... Checking indent ) < 1417946574 251890 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go check < 1417946632 875289 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys im officially in the past communicating through my microwave prototype < 1417946664 754040 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to only be freenode though < 1417946833 142904 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill just repeat in #freenode for halp < 1417947532 877806 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417947836 830356 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417947956 420699 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417948000 234151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: I can't reproduce that. When I connect to freenode, I don't get a 391 (current time) reply, and if I send TIME explicitly, I get “:barjavel.freenode.net 391 nc_jonas barjavel.freenode.net :Sunday December 7 2014 -- 10:25:04 +00:00” which seems about right < 1417948145 721195 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417948156 882861 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417948526 600421 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417948703 801006 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat "microwave prototype" omg that is a steins:gate reference now i get it < 1417948907 30943 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lnvmjotrpcvpzqmf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417949053 379813 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-127-236.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417949281 535942 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417949435 831701 :scounder!~scounder@fallout.stormbit.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417950762 192218 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1417950841 559165 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417951224 590012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1417951288 64900 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417951294 399963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417951313 110311 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's cooking < 1417951325 589145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, that hi was just for oerjan < 1417951327 113027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. clever < 1417951344 126394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1417951368 432081 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds liie i should start readig steins:gate < 1417951372 180684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you talk so much while i'm not here it takes me ages to check the logs tdnh < 1417951379 561190 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*moves it in to read* < 1417951413 367234 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't check them < 1417951417 145541 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you read the logs < 1417951441 219182 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not enslave/encourage the regulars to make a #esoteric digest, which has only the useful information of that day collected < 1417951442 345127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see if (1) i've been mentioned (2) anything interesting has been discussed < 1417951475 492570 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 should be told to you by your irc client < 1417951487 988210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: btw programming fractran is not that hard if you know how to program a minsky machine, it's like "just choose primes for your registers and a few control flags, then translate" < 1417951492 670751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc clients don't work that way hth < 1417951501 640709 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright I better check out the minsky machine then < 1417951505 197941 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not a model im familiar with < 1417951513 25289 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes they do < 1417951517 230220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: because inevitably elliott would make that digest and it would be always empty hth < 1417951530 421762 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1417951537 45633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to say it'd usually be empty < 1417951556 918122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of read the logs in that I usually check scrollback unless it's really long :/ < 1417951581 122370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's never worthwhile though < 1417951600 998102 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minsky machine has only two opcodes? < 1417951604 425033 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ INC ( r, z ), JZDEC ( r, ztrue, zfalse) } < 1417951615 516082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: in one formulation yes < 1417951682 187736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you also need the state. i guess that needs just one more prime. < 1417951815 851258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 should be told to you by your irc client <-- i don't idle hth < 1417951827 615716 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh? < 1417951843 892282 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you have logs from, then? < 1417951921 101156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :points at topic < 1417951945 732368 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417951956 58111 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start idling more < 1417952015 509786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: but it's more convenient to read long backscroll via the codu logs < 1417952024 418168 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like there shuld be implementations of various computational models < 1417952032 609994 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like minsky machine, mu-recursion functions, etc... < 1417952078 954923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: i'm sure there are a lot floating around. < 1417952105 164168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't searched for any big collections though < 1417952109 857325 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I had an idea to make a github page maybe (not sure if they allowed javascript?) which has implementations of various languages collected up < 1417952120 675166 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it should have some code examples etc. < 1417952146 129618 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice and useful < 1417952177 407652 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the useful part < 1417952211 628378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall there have been several multi-esolang implementations through the years i've been here < 1417952229 168675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esco!! < 1417952232 637528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey has his yoob.js thing < 1417952235 241125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google yoob.js < 1417952236 415189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/node/yoob.js_API < 1417952236 564520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: yoob.js API | Cat's Eye Technologies < 1417952246 797909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as his yoob thing. but that's a freaking java applet < 1417952296 616464 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, obviously i only mean its useful for people who actually want to program or test things in various esolangs/minimal computational models < 1417952485 957974 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok noone like my idea < 1417952589 188639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i don't hate it, i'm just being "been there, it'll fizzle out like all the rest" cynical hth < 1417952608 970340 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help < 1417952626 502797 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you meant: tdnh hth < 1417952665 75287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i That Doesn't Work < 1417952783 740007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1417952827 269183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discworld was such a good computer game < 1417952871 74387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the made a book based on it < 1417952873 332609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they < 1417952891 579085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs a new keyboard that doesn't drop letters twh hth
< 1417952907 226533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what happened now < 1417952917 60172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1417952925 36413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION test hth
< 1417952949 407858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow i've never noticed before that the script doesn't handle /me < 1417952974 572878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it without testing, what do you expect :p < 1417952987 828022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: I was suggesting you could use yoob.js as a base for some things maybe < 1417952996 86463 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks but idont think i would use it < 1417952997 129564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since cpressey's yoob / yoob.js are intended as web-accessible collections of tons of esolangs < 1417953017 15645 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a look at it < 1417953038 672179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha script are you talking about < 1417953063 852425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we are inching into http://xkcd.com/927/ territory < 1417953081 754052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the script that sensors hth etc. at the end of my lines hth < 1417953092 730010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just the end < 1417953101 252656 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1417953101 506715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the end < 1417953113 35661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strips punctuation < 1417953126 97614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBfsJ3Z0ei8#t=9m39s hth < 1417953688 939385 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417953740 498143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma also < 1417953740 934844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also has a karma of -1 < 1417953744 279577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also++ < 1417953980 114606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was there when that happened and resisted the temptation to do that. < 1417954294 813084 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am finished my breakfast. my number theory course for some reason had an exam question that was a fractran program < 1417954356 72565 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1417954362 951696 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1417954371 51356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was surprised that you resisted hth < 1417954432 88654 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remeber but it ended up with 7^4*5^3*3^3 < 1417954452 133090 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was last year < 1417954489 364600 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this year all my courses are computer but none involve esoteric languages < 1417954503 424936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1417954537 171102 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can sneak one into my game design course next semester < 1417954687 386775 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i probably can. you always end up building an inner platform for level scripts < 1417954701 653465 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1417954707 228872 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cool number theory course! < 1417954709 888000 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be courses on how to design an esolang < 1417954755 918246 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a programming languages course, it covered scheme, prolog, and various aspects of grammar and semantics < 1417954815 923544 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then this university has a big cs department (one of the largest in Canada). other universities might not have as many courses < 1417954889 617669 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously it seems like every game makes up its own language for mods and scripts and user-generated content < 1417954951 225503 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called lua < 1417955007 998347 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some games maybe. other games use messed up xml, some games use ini file like thingies... < 1417955092 61122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was it intended as a fractran program? < 1417955113 989310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1417955133 896227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suspects tab miscompletion
< 1417955138 214315 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean me? < 1417955180 236213 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question didn't say 'fractran' but it was an iterative process equivalent to a fractran program < 1417955183 747323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren yeah < 1417955265 393164 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the course is a math course so they porbably did not want to alienate the non-cs people by calling it a program < 1417955342 365233 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question was stated as "if x | n multiply by m/n" for a bunch of different fractions < 1417955367 283281 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops i think i reversed that notation < 1417955566 155572 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is n | x for n divides x < 1417955692 777925 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hytoziblfjaeouln QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417958372 201601 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417958629 50380 :MDream!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417958914 573663 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417958981 357556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wait why did I say all that in the wrong channel. <-- aww i was so looking forward to the dolphin thread < 1417960008 778822 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1417960101 623660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myname < 1417960112 586702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1417960120 347340 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1417960128 514282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no HackEgo < 1417960158 13527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was checking what information we have distilled about you hth < 1417960170 798932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shouts for fizzie
< 1417960184 895069 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ObjectFuck or somewhat like exist < 1417960208 582778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everythingfuck exists, that's well established < 1417960318 73647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe we should just feature Category:Brainfuck derivatives and get it over with < 1417960324 151950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all at once < 1417960343 317998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets just feature special:random < 1417960379 313503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference < 1417960448 711457 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that much obviously < 1417960589 374558 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hellørjan. from the Wisdom, I have “myname is not your name. You don't know what they are doing. Or you are doing. Or am I?” about myname. < 1417960610 147384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoilyx < 1417960638 118838 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feature MMBFSL please < 1417960656 264254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO NEW I SAID < 1417960660 886268 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran < 1417960670 163223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm plausible < 1417960986 650929 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not collatz functions? < 1417961219 413349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the wiki isn't down < 1417961256 167244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: HackEgo is somehow online but not in the channel < 1417961276 102170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie on the other hand is totally absent < 1417962400 813189 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417962464 145171 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1417963290 109576 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417963314 302053 :J_Phone!~J_WPhone@85-76-2-87-nat.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417963572 902942 :J_Phone!~J_WPhone@85-76-2-87-nat.elisa-mobile.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So provided I can figure out the macro for an alternate let, I think I can add object function support to my weird Lisp BASIC thing when I get home. < 1417963621 317504 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417963645 535692 :J_Phone!~J_WPhone@85-76-2-87-nat.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417963679 462525 :J_Phone!~J_WPhone@85-76-2-87-nat.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417963716 230262 :J_Phone!~J_WPhone@85-76-2-87-nat.elisa-mobile.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closures are magical things. < 1417963778 933558 :J_Phone!~J_WPhone@85-76-2-87-nat.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417963817 263830 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone help me with a bf interpreter < 1417963823 463128 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do I process loops < 1417963863 972914 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do I < 1417963867 466431 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW* < 1417963867 729953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are basically two main ways < 1417963878 703270 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, stack and counter < 1417963885 388595 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use the stack way < 1417963889 211666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no < 1417963902 479807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are both the same way afaiac < 1417963913 334244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other way is actually preparsing < 1417963950 499802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is much more efficient for jumping forward < 1417963961 764558 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna use stacks < 1417963974 711737 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do when I reach the start of loop? < 1417963980 708068 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you like to put on the stack? < 1417963996 609448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you check whether the cell is 0, and if so, you search to the end of the loop. < 1417964018 187018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, you can push on the stack and enter the loop < 1417964038 189246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(preparsing makes the search to the end part actually efficient) < 1417964080 280826 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implement it by compiling to scala to run as JVM bytecode on J3 via LLVM on top of a Xen system < 1417964089 802633 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean the stack datastructure < 1417964112 160826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need either a counter or some special mark on the stack for the forward search. < 1417964119 986648 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, loop stuff. < 1417964155 341073 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the preparsing way is just to remember where each brace's mathc is so you can just jump. < 1417964183 379562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: that's one way. or you could use an actual data structure, if you're interpreting in something like haskell. < 1417964238 817632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically there are heaps of ways to do it < 1417964442 824965 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I'll link the dolphin language thread if you're interested in that: https://www.lainchan.org/r/res/5366.html < 1417964482 416917 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, maybe it'll get a dolphin based programming language or something. < 1417964503 390047 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cymatic representations of code < 1417964617 821436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: i'm was being a tiny bit ironic, although i _would_ be interested if there were any actual _news_ about dolphin language. < 1417964622 585829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-'m < 1417964635 367275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MINE TENSE AND GRAMMARS < 1417964674 505103 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there are some articles I linked that are recent. < 1417964694 59598 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hddcokzflfbtupmg JOIN :#esoteric < 1417964704 843606 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phys.org/news/2014-11-bottlenose-dolphins-specific.html Or at least this one, of dolphins getting recorded without being captive. < 1417964813 886069 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest on language is from at least a year ago, although there's this one I found of river dolphins http://news.mongabay.com/2014/1203-sanders-ucsc-indus-river-dolphin.html < 1417965400 57885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1417965412 879395 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :фтв иец < 1417965415 251866 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :and btw < 1417965433 841687 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ***fuck exist, where program and data are in the same maeory? < 1417965440 618575 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :*memory < 1417965458 86641 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :*this gives ability to write self-modifying code < 1417965468 679460 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1417965499 281990 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Aura < 1417965625 611698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://esolangs.org/wiki/Braintwist sort-of counts < 1417965720 280837 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1417965747 464467 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braintwist seems to have the last bit a needed for Brainfuck-without-Brainfuck. < 1417965762 111694 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A way to loop without using []. < 1417965805 71770 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt that < 1417965823 250896 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need way longer to write an instruction than to execute < 1417965857 987163 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some bf derivate with instructions of only 3 bit < 1417965865 519304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aura's believed sub-TC, btw < 1417965868 368234 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and selfmodifying < 1417965910 381803 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite know what you mean by that, myname. < 1417965931 307320 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ is not whatever ord('[') is but e.g. 3 < 1417965931 724188 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: |spelling error < 1417965931 867798 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: | is not whatever ord('[') is but e.g. 3 < 1417965931 867975 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: | ^ < 1417965956 931630 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417965958 799133 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bigger obstacle that I just remember is that I was going to see if I could have the data space by a 3x3 grid of bits. < 1417965969 502156 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417965971 45118 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Agony < 1417965973 432949 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1417966030 318752 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you were talking about Braintwist. < 1417966056 724750 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RAPSCALLY CHICKEN < 1417966059 733558 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417966121 529361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about braintwist with BF Joust-style RLE ? < 1417966645 713118 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a language made to have code represented as zzstructures? < 1417966931 686683 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, BeQunge's site seems to be down. < 1417966961 437450 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417966998 669491 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least has turned into some weird thing where it expects me to download an application/x-httpd-php (563 bytes) named dmaupKve. < 1417967058 384092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x-httpd-php"? < 1417967072 693184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's "page generated by a PHP script which won't say what format it's in" < 1417967087 759396 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I'm not sure either. < 1417967248 229939 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me it sounds a bit like a televized clown jumping into the camera's feild of veiw and saying "Hey guys, it's time for virus city!" < 1417967264 289295 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it could just be misconfigured stuff, yeah. < 1417967279 350888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sensible virus wouldn't claim to be in a format that no browser knows how to open < 1417967294 302521 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A well made one, no. < 1417967322 774253 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417967378 113406 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm wondering now though why when I right click it my options are "Open" and "Mount ImDisk as Virtual Disk". < 1417967392 120931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the second option appear for absolutely every file on your computer? < 1417967415 149335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, it's probably an overly optimistic shell extension (or less charitably, one that's trying to advertise its existence by appearing on all your context menus) < 1417967438 688693 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see it is. < 1417967494 343986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of ways that Windows program developers come up with to advertise their programs is shocking < 1417967522 420402 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why the menu wasn't showing open as/with. < 1417967566 729539 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it thinks it doens't need to, if it'll open the same menu when I try to open it anyway. < 1417967789 223976 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's php. < 1417967797 791030 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starts with < 1417967798 620924 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1417967830 160488 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ends with < 1417967830 447378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1417967849 914917 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1417967873 164751 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant < 1417967873 618380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1417968029 630287 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417968295 149155 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417968306 989411 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ау маги) < 1417968342 607260 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i search girl for tantric)) < 1417968360 379452 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1417968363 534063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irctc984: do you know what this channel is about? or are you a spambot? < 1417968395 507086 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i yogi < 1417968403 822964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome irctc984 < 1417968406 7397 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you? < 1417968414 902577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric programmer, like everyone else here < 1417968431 630026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hackego's down < 1417968439 22982 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dou speak russian?) < 1417968443 77018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this channel is about programming languages that aren't widely used < 1417968453 890066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is mostly in english, and occasionally finnish or norwegian or swedish < 1417968470 548228 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know php java c++ c# ruby python < 1417968501 984461 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1417968511 967465 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hail Odin! < 1417968528 516656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's our website: http://esolangs.org/ < 1417968543 408411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't find it relevant/interesting, you're probably in the wrong place < 1417968544 842236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do, then welcome < 1417968547 976522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sadly the welcome bot is down) < 1417968578 874986 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new progrmm lang? < 1417968603 90423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, basically experimental programming languages < 1417968608 417669 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry me need magic) < 1417968610 206535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that don't have to be useful < 1417968611 761174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1417968620 694097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a channel for that sort of thing, but it's not on freenode < 1417968623 525734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget where offhand < 1417968628 274422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also it's normally empty) < 1417968633 608915 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1417968637 20912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me search logs, a moment < 1417968691 250609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irctc984: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1417968694 449786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1417968710 208061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that other channel is sadly normally empty, but perhaps if you idle there long enough, someone else will turn up < 1417968900 244605 :irctc984!59fc316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.252.49.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1417969330 906312 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1417969356 731207 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417969446 100421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, long time no "other esoteric" visitor. < 1417969464 715156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day two of them are going to meet each other < 1417969483 974584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and discover that they both care about entirely disjoint subsets of other-esoterica < 1417970245 218828 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1417970247 8266 :S1!~S1@p4FF93E66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417971087 749075 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: study crap < 1417971600 984456 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417973298 774472 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1417974589 381359 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417977610 582903 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417977920 295071 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1417977928 722506 :SopaXorzTaker!~ItsLuke@ipv6.lukej.ovh JOIN :#esoteric < 1417977975 172308 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, another anagol record unreachable due to abolishing NPlusKPatterns < 1417978067 28433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1417978091 813371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Smileys+Triangle < 1417978182 361457 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417978447 813217 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417978686 743596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The parsing of n+k patterns is a bit odd. One may write let n+1?m = n, but not let n?m+1 = m, regardless of the operator's fixity. < 1417979116 801243 :evalj!~jeval@BC065FAA.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1417979397 725844 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ghc is a bit too generous there, accepting programs that are invalid by the Haskell 98 report. I don't think this will be fixed :) < 1417979819 100280 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: obviously I have no proof, the evidence consists of a) a working solution of the right size, using n+k patterns and b) failure to produce a non-n+k-patterns solution despite trying fairly hard. < 1417979838 379489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sure < 1417979847 614931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to be sure with these kinds of problems < 1417980090 865269 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier I improved the Haskell record for http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Timeout after 7 years, hard to believe all those people missed that idea. < 1417980294 120107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but! that was the second time I attempted this problem and the first time I ended up with main=print[0..] like everybody else, and was satisfied at the time. < 1417980801 413555 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417980950 639579 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417980976 200143 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417981015 664265 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1417981120 970356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm also surprised no one tried main=getChar < 1417981134 701369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, hmm. < 1417981140 82382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it doesn't work, oops. < 1417981221 870059 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=unsafeCast $ main -- thar you go < 1417981263 318264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1417981268 764207 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... dunno. < 1417981626 713351 :lowdown!~JahNagaBa@unaffiliated/jahnagabaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1417981805 296385 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does main=main work? < 1417981868 243663 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should, since "let f=f in f" works < 1417981881 625701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither one works. < 1417981898 19910 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? "let f=f in f" stopped my ghci < 1417981914 183405 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe ghci has such radically different rules that that works for some reason < 1417981926 393797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :radical, man < 1417981972 759006 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao JOIN :#esoteric < 1417982048 178520 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :³√4 < 1417982051 213812 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So radical < 1417982354 516718 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howd you create that symbol < 1417982371 500407 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looked it up < 1417982371 644101 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :√√√ < 1417982372 301647 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: I'm actually not quite sure why the RTS's loop detection doesn't trigger for that code in ghci. With main=main and compiled code the program terminates and prints <> < 1417982432 298779 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy < 1417982540 376376 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1417982602 910542 :lowdown!~JahNagaBa@unaffiliated/jahnagabaga PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1417982615 847462 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1417982753 393456 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417982770 79898 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;~; it's so hard to debug a curses app < 1417982921 328024 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, why in the world < 1417982939 987413 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 1,000 size pad crashes when I try to draw to the char at [999, 999] < 1417983243 369825 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk < 1417983847 254464 :evalj!~jeval@BC065FAA.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417983978 62934 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417985622 115678 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-127-236.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417986799 67724 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417986844 146099 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1417986899 883731 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anyone have advice on where (with who) I should host my own webpages? < 1417987064 890663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on whether it's static hosting, or something more complex (CGI, etc.) < 1417987069 888873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how much money you have < 1417987092 218785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :static hosting is basically trivial nowadays, so there are probably a ton of companies willing to do it for cheap/free, some of which are more reputable than others < 1417987121 463530 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :little money, that for sure. And it would be first for like running javascript interpreters, not sure if that static or not. < 1417987155 930506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that static < 1417987163 607622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you can do that without hosting, just it's hard to send the results to other people < 1417987217 959788 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if people click on raw under a github html page, would they see the html page as if it were hosted? < 1417987233 563138 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :html code page, I mean. < 1417987312 332142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: not on github itself < 1417987318 826508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, github.io (not .com) does something very like that < 1417987324 284121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know the details < 1417987330 26882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…let me visit their home page and see if it explains < 1417987353 725606 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a look too. Thanks. < 1417987364 465814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow is this saddeningly github < 1417987381 810499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that page reminds me of how much I hate github < 1417987385 883666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously seriously hate < 1417987391 849635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it does the job you need it to < 1417987420 880660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github's already the hosting site with the least understanding of git, and they seem to actively promote their users not understanding git either < 1417987424 470164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so things go wrong all the time < 1417987431 448666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, there's probably some site even worse than github < 1417987432 711931 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? Why do you dislike github? I mean, I'm not too familiar with it, but it seems to be the most recommended. < 1417987444 94695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's the most /popular/, people use it due to network effects < 1417987464 988763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically they're trying to be a social network, and are using repositories as the hook to draw people in < 1417987485 96180 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the starring... < 1417987535 81310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, and the utter desperation for users (signup process doesn't even have a confirm password, so there's no way to know you typed it correctly, and is directly on the home page while logged out) < 1417987553 574052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the way they create and recommend a "github client for windows" that doesn't understand git (seriously, I've seen people try to use it) < 1417987613 589903 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used it... once. Now I just manually upload, or copy/paste, the few things I put on there. < 1417987625 182862 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm small fries though. < 1417987649 464495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also not how git works < 1417987685 492790 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you mean it's for collaboration? < 1417987821 527398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :collaboration; version history; syncing a repo between multiple machines < 1417987827 351378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are some of the most basic things a VCS does < 1417987857 798408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "copy-paste your work into a website" or "download this client that doesn't actually have any way to access most of git's functionality, and the subset it does apparently provide access to is really misleading" < 1417987874 966045 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you use for INTERCALC(?) < 1417987922 658222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't write INTERCALC < 1417987932 31889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone is confusing me with claudio calvelli again, I will get mildly frustrated < 1417988047 527265 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't, but I thought you, together with an Eric person, collected everything that was known on the language into one central location. < 1417988076 794284 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i read an article. < 1417988114 582854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: oh, that article < 1417988131 413214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should probably not consider everything written in it to be true, or at least, non-misleading < 1417988143 29281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if there are any actual false statements in it, but I wouldn't have told the story like taht < 1417988162 175861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the "eric person" is pretty famous, one of the few people who's referenceable by initials < 1417988312 40935 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is he the same person that wrote the hacker's lingo dictionary and hacker's guide (or something like that)? < 1417988334 892015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't write the jargon file either. < 1417988343 420644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's the same person who maintains the jargon file, yes, but didn't originally write it < 1417988368 310973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: here's the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond < 1417988369 985420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he "wrote" (edited) the one print version. < 1417988394 644465 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been so long that I've been working on killing d_level, but now I've forgotten what I want to do next < 1417988414 206713 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I was working on some migration stuff, but I can't remember why :/ < 1417988460 863297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: possible mischan? < 1417988501 604925 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1417988503 412332 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack as well, you've must have known him for a while. I keep meaning to try nethack, but it seems so big to get started on. < 1417988522 122683 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I sort of assume that NH is ontopic in any channel you're talking in < 1417988529 889562 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with agora < 1417988538 637599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, hmm < 1417988546 221866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Freenode that rule does seem to almost apply < 1417988552 961377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of one exception (agora in #tasvideos) < 1417988577 615739 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay okay so < 1417988581 805400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently in two channels in synirc which have lax topicality rules, but trying to bring up either nethack or agora would likely be ignored at best and shunned at worst < 1417988603 69183 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is a language that can be executed as a string < 1417988610 966309 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really require "parsing" < 1417988611 471460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most languages are like that < 1417988623 516122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some are better executable as strings than others < 1417988625 580694 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond a case statement < 1417988630 530114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically you could do it with C, but it'd be a nightmare < 1417988639 777954 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some massive state machine < 1417988678 381562 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay but so is it possible to encapsulate some method of abstraction in such a language < 1417988715 169155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's possible to create a TC language with no abstraction < 1417988728 663192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst case you write an interpreter for a language with abstraction, plus a program for it to run < 1417988751 829110 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only in one channel in synirc < 1417988760 620710 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean a kind of abstraction meaningful to humans < 1417988761 282773 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :synirc has really unreliable infrastructure, though; comparable to freenode < 1417988768 577978 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or accessible to humans perhaps < 1417988980 582457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much all the really inaccessible languages < 1417988988 291508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that 2,3 machine that wolfram set his prize for < 1417989005 727782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are only programmable in by defining many layers of abstraction on top of them until you find something that humans can mentally grasp < 1417989039 111828 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that you won) < 1417989065 495157 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :blurp < 1417989162 777956 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1417989261 734192 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse polish s k combinators < 1417989460 616318 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers a Berenstain Bears book explaining a beautiful sunset as being caused by pollution
< 1417989577 336271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's "synirc"? (I mean, any special topic, or just generic IRCery?) < 1417989613 401453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea if it has any particular topic < 1417989650 97356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what I'll use as an IRCnet server in UK. Here in Finland, all the ISPs have their own. < 1417989722 408398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, you are moving to the UK, then? < 1417989724 749020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just planning? < 1417989734 467207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving on Jan 2, 2015. < 1417989772 294718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I only remember irc.stealth.net as an open server, and it was rather unstable. Ten years ago or so. I did find out open.ircnet.net is a DNS alias for five open servers, but I have no idea whether those are any better.) < 1417989808 889416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I wonder why anyone would want to come here < 1417989825 494316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can construe it as an attempt to restore the finland/hexham balance < 1417989836 101881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…you're not moving to Hexham, are you? < 1417989853 67960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; London. (I got job offers from there and from Aachen, Germany.) < 1417989888 787500 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1417989907 958735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as cities go, Aachen might have been more to my liking. I'm just hoping nobody has managed to make a city as big as London completely uninhabitable. < 1417989928 349125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :london is possibly unlike any other city < 1417989952 218690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time I went there, it struck me as a bit odd that my parents gave me specific london-handling advice in advance < 1417989969 159680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, it wasn't 100% necessary, but I could see why people could think it would be < 1417989993 404502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been there doing the tourist thing a couple of times (3?), but that's pretty much the extent of my knowledge. Except I did see that one documentary. < 1417990015 84137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I think london has reached some sort of reverse-singularity where the number of jobs required to support the population of london is now sufficiently high that it's impossible to fit enough people into london to do those jobs < 1417990039 508003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, some large proportion of people have to commute, and commuting into london is both very crowded and very expensive < 1417990073 204415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll be looking for a place that's (a) quiet and peaceful, (b) within a reasonable commute from the job, and (c) cheap, which I'm sure will be entirely trivial to find. < 1417990076 852938 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is not uncommon of large cities < 1417990081 751297 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ahahahahahahah < 1417990098 225956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We've got a company-provided place for January and February to do some looking.) < 1417990112 844923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh wow < 1417990125 235776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cheap" by those definitions is on the order of a million pounds, last I looked < 1417990151 406028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not "that bad". I mean, you don't have to go *that* far to be easily under, say, £1500/month. < 1417990186 986907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how central is the workplace? < 1417990196 420592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's outskirts it hopefully shouldn't be too bad < 1417990205 100415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about next door to Buckingham Palace, so... quite? < 1417990232 228686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wife's parents suggested asking the Queen for spare rooms. < 1417990235 168855 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1417990235 822005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's a big palace. < 1417990252 789921 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Share with the corgies. < 1417990260 951463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect you're going to get very familiar with the Tube < 1417990282 697823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm beginning to wonder if the tube is even worthwhile for zone 1 journeys < 1417990295 422074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced that going down to tube level, then back up to street level, is faster than just walking in many cases < 1417990300 577444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's also next to Victoria station. Some of the places we've been preliminarily looking at seemed to have somewhat reasonable overground commuting railroad connections. < 1417990305 89550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly depends on which line you're on < 1417990353 840664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The relocation package includes two days of time with a local "homesearch consultant" who's supposed to be knowledgeable about these things, I'm hoping that'll help. < 1417990424 903082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :companies in london have to get good at this sort of thing < 1417990433 875242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they want their employees to be able to afford to stay working for them < 1417990437 513739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, I imagine it will help < 1417990454 281257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :government-funded jobs (like teaching) have much higher salaries in london, partly because of this sort of thing < 1417990510 58239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my advice is, enter the same character name < 1417990522 890003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get a "shall I pick for you?" prompt, quit out and then run recover < 1417990551 200402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mischan, sorry < 1417990573 828326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that confused me quite a bit, actually. < 1417990590 538564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the first line seemed like it could just possibly be relevant. < 1417990593 868193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the fact that nobody talked in between < 1417990601 540096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it hard to follow < 1417990635 180098 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417991116 926622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1417991984 297293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1417992199 984716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: HackEgo is strangely missing hth < 1417992476 824930 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/private/b6c8kaawz19ilhxixwva mmmmmmmmmmm < 1417992512 110231 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the class of evaluators you can only stare dreamily at < 1417992512 646487 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :WhatS this < 1417992521 808311 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my < 1417992589 211953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: it's tricky to do anything useful with an ExpVal. i guess you could throw exceptions. < 1417992602 499147 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1417992602 643287 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1417992607 341896 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1417992628 7258 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice to just return regular functions but the type system doesn't like that so much < 1417992634 817909 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lizxhafucifjbeao PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm green olives and a yogurt cup is best lunch < 1417992656 421314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's relatively easy to extend expval with stuck terms though < 1417992659 137126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding a monad is easy, though. < 1417992694 226151 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it?? < 1417992701 871539 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i wanted to do next!! < 1417992723 171021 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean, adding IO capabilities < 1417992736 729921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what i did in the Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download implementation. < 1417992772 277393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Sem = Stuck String [Sem] | Fun (Sem -> Sem) < 1417992789 184040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :data WHNF a = WHNF { ann :: Maybe a, fun :: (WHNF a -> WHNF a) } < 1417992789 463980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :type EXPR a = [WHNF a] -> WHNF a < 1417992800 543752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :($$) :: Sem -> Sem -> Sem; Stuck n xs $$ x = Stuck n (xs ++ [x]); Fun f $$ x = f x < 1417992823 333677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess my a is like your Stuck, except that everything _also_ has a function interpretation. < 1417992831 548612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :add ... | Var String to the source language that evalutes to Stuck n [] and voila < 1417992874 809388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that WHNF is probably really misnamed as a result of later rewriting of the code < 1417992887 694879 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks
< 1417993016 820600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: just renaming: http://lpaste.net/7364802953296740352 (my motivation was that there's a natural name for a record selector, namely 'apply') < 1417993096 666088 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1417993166 831020 :dts|pokeball!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1417993222 137826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I managed to log in but then it hung up on me and now it no longer answers. < 1417993229 553484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eek < 1417993248 496170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki was working a moment ago... < 1417993276 852973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and at least from my point of view it stopped too. < 1417993301 102817 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what exactly is what you just described? < 1417993326 864087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: I'll write a demonstration < 1417993540 84769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and discover that they both care about entirely disjoint subsets of other-esoterica <-- aww < 1417993702 282818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: http://sprunge.us/dcOA < 1417993922 46025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : earlier I improved the Haskell record for http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Timeout after 7 years, hard to believe all those people missed that idea. <-- maybe it didn't work before, due to different blackholing or whatever... < 1417993940 133909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, main=main _could_ work that way (although you say it doesn't) < 1417993966 870363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect main = main >> main to <> < 1417993967 14419 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm cool cool < 1417993984 847980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any more than I'd expect main = print 5 >> main to loop < 1417994004 704328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm i guess. < 1417994005 469700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417994008 826708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: DONE. < 1417994010 196181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1417994048 127017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it'll suffer from another hiccup soon and go down again. < 1417994049 107132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append myname His evil twin brother is Perl. < 1417994061 607322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps immediately. < 1417994065 205498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'myname': myname is not your name. You don't know what they are doing. Or you are doing. Or am I? His evil twin brother is Perl. < 1417994082 86827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that doesn't fit in so well. < 1417994089 510616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, when did Perl ever. < 1417994115 597604 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1417994133 39193 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf @ php sollutions for timeout < 1417994191 318426 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, you are quite serious about that log reading thing < 1417994271 903443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would using // for slashlearn satisfy your pedantry twh < 1417994357 666002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pedantry, i've never used that command anyway... < 1417994366 913693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or have i?) < 1417994483 584964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-10-02.txt:04:22:14: technically you can have slash too, but you need to create the directories first >:) < 1417994522 6776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-10-03.txt:11:31:02: `slashlearn fnord/? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1417994551 461980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417994562 174401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fnord < 1417994564 621857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1417994714 395691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure we want to encourage directories. for one thing, if there is a directory it cannot also be a file... < 1417995069 294635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, "Heikki is a Finnish form of the man's name Henry." < 1417995100 790894 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?Timeout/leonid_1205162298&rb that's a cheat < 1417995118 725174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating is allowed hth < 1417995144 601418 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exec is forbidden" < 1417995287 706585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell I can think of one exception (agora in #tasvideos) <-- you need to make that tasvideo now hth < 1417995288 101197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417995298 311985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417995338 598002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does @tell support <> now twh < 1417995346 322772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAA < 1417995357 830533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I can think of one exception (agora in #tasvideos) <-- you need to make that tasvideo now hth < 1417995358 218611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417995367 666787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 getting rules passed to make agora tas'able is left as an exercise < 1417995368 163765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417995384 59003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Probably via "Henrik". And these days we have "Henri" as a Finnish name, too. < 1417995438 150081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps "these days" is not quite right, but it's popularity peak is clearly later according to http://verkkopalvelu.vrk.fi/nimipalvelu/nimipalvelu_etunimihaku.asp?L=3 < 1417995454 310985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask does @tell support <> now twh < 1417995454 652325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417995459 233405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1417995463 785326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE < 1417995488 191273 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : AAAAAAAAAAAA ← ? < 1417995512 61866 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, bon soirjan.) < 1417995544 206049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: see previous comment by shachaf < 1417995600 877741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e it would be nice if @tell could like warn about illegal chars in nicks < 1417995601 208016 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1417995648 106242 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. < 1417995659 716506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it already handles "@tell foo:" and "@tell foo," hth < 1417995663 617450 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: @tell is not a monoid hth < 1417995678 716562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1417995693 562244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see, you're saying it's hard < 1417995698 106527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it wouldn't be right anyway, since i actually _want_ the <...> as part of the quoted message < 1417995720 71322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. < 1417995726 824679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that it's a mess hth < 1417995732 150287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just lose hope < 1417995744 322513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i did that long ago. < 1417995780 814577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does that have to do with bug fixing < 1417995829 725463 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“when your program fails for parts of the domain, change the domain.” < 1417995855 113743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's pretty much the rule here, yeah < 1417996337 639282 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric