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Push F3 it ask what file to save, F4 ask what file to restore; or you can also push F9 to save in the last file or F10 to restore the last file. 03:26:19 sometimes i wonder if the real reason English has a reputation as being 'easy to learn' is just because English speakers are culturally less prone to correcting people's speech, at least in person and especially to non-native speakers. 03:26:35 Maybe. 03:26:54 Or, maybe because there is a lot of books printed in English 03:27:17 Finns correct you *constantly* if you attempt to speak the language. 03:27:20 J_Arcane: they are? I see people correct english constantly 03:27:23 is it even more common in other languages? 03:28:17 elliott: Online? I see piles of English correction, sure, but in person? I have almost never, ever seen someone correct a non-native speaker. 03:28:42 okay, true 03:28:51 people are jerks on the internet 03:29:39 totally. 03:29:58 I hear finns are jerks too though. 03:30:32 elliott: I would rather suspect that finns are people. 03:47:11 -!- nisstyre_ has changed nick to nisstyre. 03:56:32 -!- shikhin_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:57:45 -!- shikhin has joined. 04:02:27 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:16:10 -!- zzo38 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:20:04 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:42:58 -!- boily has quit (Quit: STEGANOSAURUS CHICKEN). 04:56:29 Are these temperatures F or C? C is impossible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN2nH8zoz3A 04:59:45 -!- adu has joined. 05:00:04 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 05:10:02 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 05:16:26 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 05:28:13 Sgeo: C, it's a joke 05:29:31 Or might be F, I'm not sure 05:35:39 Could be K 05:43:29 -!- vanila has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:57:14 -!- GeekDude has quit (Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)). 06:04:54 -!- adu has joined. 06:15:08 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:17:22 If I get mismailed a letter, is it legal for me to put it in the correct recipient's mailbox? 06:18:06 Looks like it might be a paycheck (but I'm not about to open it to see) 06:19:07 Fun question. 06:21:43 In what country? 06:22:42 USA 06:22:49 Also not the channel I meant to ask, but whatever 06:23:02 Sgeo: I can't think of why it wouldn't be 06:24:02 because of things like "Only the United States Postal Service may use mailboxes for delivery without paying postage (Flyers, magazines, notes, letters, etc. found in or on mailboxes may be charged postage due)." 06:31:15 "If the mailpiece is delivered to the wrong location: Don't erase or mark over the information, or write any type of endorsement on the mailpiece. Place the item back in the mailbox or hand the item back to your mailperson." 06:31:42 I could leave it in my mailbox overnight and if it's still there when I wake up at noon, then maybe knock on neighbor's door or something 06:32:20 a) who is going to care 06:32:22 b) who is going to notice 06:33:07 a) Paycheck. The intended recipient will care if e doesn't receive it 06:33:20 if you stick it in eir mailbox, e will 06:33:27 (Well, probably paycheck) 06:34:42 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=593601 is relevant but inconclusive 06:35:22 at least they agree that http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/83/1725 is not applicable. 06:40:00 * Sgeo puts it back in own mailbox, address facing out 06:40:15 Tomorrow can try to talk to neighbor or something 06:41:38 this system of putting outgoing mail in one's own mailbox is so weird :) 06:42:16 I generally put outgoing mail in the large mailbox outside 06:42:28 I don't know if mailperson will actually look at incoming mailbox 06:42:46 Sgeo: just put it in the person's mailbox 06:42:55 int-e found the relevant statute and it would not apply 06:43:02 I don't think it's actually physically possible 06:43:56 coppro: is it the 18 U.S.C. § 1725, or is there something else? 06:44:04 yeah 06:44:26 (I like reading legalese, it's an esoteric english slang.) 06:44:38 indeed 06:44:43 have you read agora? 06:44:50 nope 06:44:57 http://agora.qoid.us/current_slr.txt 06:48:08 wow, "proscribe" is an awful word. It means the opposite of what I'd naively expect. 06:49:00 * int-e puts it into an inflamable drawer, then puts a match to the whole. 06:51:09 int-e: it's the opposite of prescribe 06:51:56 and o is the opposite of e 06:52:56 e is a crossed out o? *squints* 06:57:12 `quote LETTER O 06:57:13 742) U+2205 [∅] NO LETTER O ALLOWED 06:58:34 `unidecode ∅ 06:58:35 ​[U+2205 EMPTY SET] 06:58:58 (just checking) 06:59:35 the members of ∅ enjoy absolute freedom 07:00:28 `? oerjan 07:00:30 Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. 07:01:17 your evil øverlørd 07:02:06 `unidecode ø 07:02:06 ​[U+00F8 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE] 07:03:30 in a paper we recently finalized the typesetters managed to use Ø instead of ∅ in one place (out of several), that was strange. 07:03:57 hah 07:05:36 (Why they have to take perfectly good latex and reset it in another program I'll never know [ok, I'm afraid I do know; they accept submissions in Word, too]. Springer...) 07:10:06 they must have a crazy workflow, too; they seem to cut out figures (and possibly symbols) from PDF, but I suspect the text is produced by taking the main body of the latex document and then running strategical search&replace commands... 07:11:15 (I hope there is *some* automation, but there were several systematic errors in the first draft that indicate that a lot of manual labor is also involved) 07:11:32 but oh well. not very esoteric :) 07:20:50 xkcd is pretty good today 07:22:34 nice try 07:22:49 -!- shikhin has joined. 07:22:56 but that's wednesday's xkcd 07:22:59 int-e: i regret nothing 07:23:53 Unless the absence of today's comic is an artistic message that I fail to grasp. 07:24:01 todays's is the chart 07:24:41 oh. sorry, browser mishap 07:25:31 I used to be able to visit xkcd by opening a new tab and searching for xkcd in the history - now there's a danger of activating an active xkcd tab instead ... 07:26:14 ... which won't be reloaded in the course of this user interaction. 07:26:36 Foiled by software. 07:27:01 software sucks 07:27:03 use paper 07:28:29 -!- nys has quit (Quit: quit). 07:28:49 paper reloaded, hmm 08:14:33 Hehe, today's Freefall amuses me 08:15:34 Hmmmmm. I'll see it on Monday, I think. 08:16:35 (Since Freefall has no easy way of bookmarking the current comic.) 08:17:44 ... never mind me. 08:19:53 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 08:19:53 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Changing host). 08:19:53 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 08:20:56 (I need to stop talking about my habits so much (Uh I'm doing it again, STOP! (Uh I give up. (Really, I should stop doing this all the time. (AAARGH!))))) 08:30:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ6i-xQyesc 08:34:29 it's from spaceballs, hopefully isn't blocked in any countries 08:41:54 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 08:47:19 -!- Solace has joined. 08:47:19 I'm so done 08:47:34 my schools filter.somehow got on my computer 08:47:45 through a Google signup 08:48:17 THIS IS BULLSHIT 08:48:35 all of my data and bots code has been fucking deleted 08:49:38 waitwhat. 08:50:39 -!- InvalidCo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 08:51:11 I signed into Google at school and idk I think the accounts got linked to school 08:51:21 and when I signed in at home 08:51:39 The schools filter system for "innapropriate" things 08:51:48 deleted everything I had 08:51:54 I'm so fuvkibdhsha 08:52:11 File a complaint, then. 08:52:12 ffffffff 08:52:25 I can't winter break 08:52:35 no one listens to.students here 08:56:20 . o O ( Assuming this is real; at this point, I'd turn off the computer, try to find a clean one that can read the hard disk, scan it for recoverable data. ) 08:56:54 it is real and I'm crying 08:57:26 Because anything you'll do on the computer will just make a recovery (if possible at all) harder. 08:57:35 -!- InvalidCo has joined. 08:57:48 ill do that 08:58:43 If you cannot file a complaint, then file a lawsuit. 08:58:52 (instead of another computer, booting from an USB key with some Linux or similar *may* be an option. There must be special recovery images around, actually.) 09:00:25 I'm just in shock this is retarded its taken me so long to compile this 09:00:37 my entire lib 09:00:55 * Solace dies inside then sues school 09:02:07 (I've never really had this problem, so I actually don't really know what tools to use beyond making an image of the disk (for which I'd use dd.)) 09:04:51 they use a deepfreeze and I I CAN'T DO SHIT 09:05:09 ok school is in a few days ill speak with an administrator 09:05:52 Although before filing any complaints or lawsuits or whatever you should try to check what is happening if possible, and then you can figure out what happened. If your school put malware into your computer then to complain to them, if that doesn't help then sue them and/or to put in newspaper report. 09:05:57 with some luck you'll not be the only one... though I'm not sure "luck" is the right term here. 09:06:10 -!- InvalidCo has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:07:47 -!- InvalidCo has joined. 09:08:32 mitchs: heh I actually own the movie on DVD (though movie companies will disagree with that phrase) 09:16:53 growing up, i watched it on a bootleg VHS on a big tv that took several minutes to reach normal brightness levels after being turned on 09:17:15 * mitchs is approximately 100 years old 09:22:30 -!- InvalidCo has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:25:05 heh, bootleg vnhs 09:25:06 **vhs 09:33:48 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:48:12 @tell J_Arcane (10a+b)^2-(10c+d)^2 == (10b+a)^2-(10d+c)^2 <=> (10a+b)^2-(10b+a)^2 == (10c+d)^2-(10d+c)^2 <=> (11a+11b)(9a-9b) == (11c+11d)(9c-9d) <=> (a+b)(a-b) == (c+d)(c-d) <=> a^2-b^2 == c^2-d^2 09:48:12 Consider it noted. 09:49:56 @tell J_Arcane hm one conclusion is that if two pairs of digits work, they work in all (big enough) bases 09:49:56 Consider it noted. 09:51:08 > (0x48^2 - 0x17^2, 0x84^2-0x71^2) 09:51:10 (4655,4655) 09:53:45 @tell Jafet (Also next year 2016 = 54^2-30^2, if you allow 45^2-03^2.) <-- hm that's because (3,4,5) is a pythagorean triple... 09:53:45 Consider it noted. 09:59:22 > [(a,b,c,d,x)|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 09:59:23 [(0,0,0,0,0),(0,0,1,1,0),(0,0,2,2,0),(0,0,3,3,0),(0,0,4,4,0),(0,0,5,5,0),(0,... 09:59:29 oops 09:59:47 > [(a,b,c,d,x)|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],a/=c,[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 09:59:48 [(0,0,1,1,0),(0,0,2,2,0),(0,0,3,3,0),(0,0,4,4,0),(0,0,5,5,0),(0,0,6,6,0),(0,... 10:00:10 > [(a,b,c,d,x)|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],a/=c,a/=b,[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 10:00:12 [(0,3,4,5,-9),(0,4,3,5,-16),(1,4,7,8,-15),(1,5,5,7,-24),(1,7,4,8,-48),(2,6,7... 10:00:39 > length [(a,b,c,d,x)|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],a/=c,a/=b,[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 10:00:41 28 10:02:09 > [(10*a+b)^2-(10*c+d)^2|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],a/=c,a/=b,[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 10:02:10 [-2016,-1209,-5888,-3024,-2015,-5565,-4032,-2016,1209,-1209,-5888,2016,2015,... 10:02:41 > [(10*a+b)^2-(10*c+d)^2|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],a>c,a/=b,[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 10:02:42 [1209,2016,2015,1209,2016,3024,4032,3024,5888,5565,2015,5888,4032,5565] 10:03:13 > nub [(10*a+b)^2-(10*c+d)^2|[a,b,c,d]<-replicateM 4[0..9],a>c,a/=b,[x]<-[nub[a^2-b^2,c^2-d^2]]] 10:03:14 [1209,2016,2015,3024,4032,5888,5565] 10:15:10 @tell nys guardian <-> warden <-- that's actually not english's fault, but a development in norman french 10:15:10 Consider it noted. 10:28:42 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 10:32:43 -!- adu has joined. 11:20:14 -!- dts|pokeball has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 11:23:38 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 12:03:16 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 12:37:54 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 13:00:36 https://github.com/munificent/vigil 13:23:10 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:33:40 -!- corsee has joined. 13:51:55 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:52:09 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:00:10 -!- Solace has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 14:00:21 -!- PinealGlandOptic has joined. 14:18:57 -!- olsner has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:19:55 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41574&oldid=41488 * Rottytooth * (+14) /* F */ added folders 14:20:16 -!- olsner has joined. 14:23:44 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Rottytooth * uploaded "[[File:Folders HelloWorld.png]]": Hello, World sreenshot for Folders 14:25:38 [wiki] [[Folders]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41576&oldid=41573 * Rottytooth * (+91) 14:27:16 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 14:27:32 -!- MoALTz has joined. 14:35:49 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 14:57:04 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Went downstairs, saw mail truck, (after neighbor prompted me after I asked if mailperson was here) went to truck and talked to mailperson, who seemed distraught at the misplaced mail and thankful to me 17:44:06 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 17:44:28 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Changing host). 17:44:28 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 17:59:06 -!- dts|pokeball has joined. 18:00:07 -!- coppro has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 18:05:26 -!- corsee has joined. 18:11:15 -!- corsee has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:15:25 -!- corsee has joined. 18:23:15 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:26:30 -!- shikhin has joined. 18:28:08 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 18:28:08 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Changing host). 18:28:08 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 18:28:36 http://www.cracked.com/article_21940_5-mathematical-strategies-dominating-popular-kids-games.html/ 18:33:55 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 18:35:57 -!- coppro has joined. 18:36:50 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 18:44:02 -!- dts|pokeball has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:45:22 -!- dts|pokeball has joined. 18:45:41 http://yusuke.endoh.usesthis.com/ 18:46:54 "Recently I've become interested in Scala. It looks beautifully-crafted" 18:46:59 whaaaaat 18:50:24 ... 18:50:47 somebody please K-line, G-line and probably a few columns too corsee. 18:52:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:54:32 so can we assume fizzie has left now 18:54:57 fizzie has left? 18:54:59 -!- oerjan has set topic: Home Alone 6: The horror of fungot | but often spelled correctly. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 18:55:06 ^echo hi 18:55:06 hi hi 18:55:24 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 18:55:41 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +b *!*corsee@84.78.20.*. 18:55:41 -!- oerjan has kicked corsee spammed me in private. 18:55:55 Yes. 18:55:59 I have both left and arrived. 18:56:02 ooh 18:56:07 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 18:56:25 did fungot leave too? 18:56:26 olsner: you can still compile things efficiently. because it was used in making the hardware branchings visible to the compilation of some files ( i'm setting up gvim on this machine. 18:56:36 olsner: no, see topic 18:56:37 No, fungot is still where I left it. 18:56:38 fizzie: you and your social contacts" can result in billiard balls breaking apart. 18:56:39 hth 18:57:05 fizzie: so how's the weather in london 18:57:35 oerjan: Surprisingly fine. 18:57:40 @metar EGLL 18:57:40 EGLL 021850Z 24008KT 210V270 CAVOK 05/01 Q1034 NOSIG 18:57:40 oerjan: Though it's supposed to rain tomorrow. 18:58:01 https://github.com/mame/_ 18:58:05 does this count as esoteric? 18:58:18 I think its just encoding each letter using n _'s for chr(n) 18:59:16 if so, that's boring 18:59:20 it's not esoteric as long as the script still needs to contain "require" hth 18:59:26 ok 18:59:38 reverse runlength encoding :P 18:59:44 *+ 19:00:15 -!- shikhin_ has changed nick to shikhin. 19:04:29 isn't there anything for ruby resembling that symbol-only encoding for javascript? 19:05:29 i suppose that depends on ruby having similarly crazy implicit conversions, but it _is_ a dynamically typed language so it doesn't seem out of the question 19:06:53 malbolge 19:06:53 The most evil and renowned esoteric programming language 19:06:54 hm "ruby symbols only" doesn't give obvious hits 19:08:03 i'm not sure that malbolge actually is the most evil esolang, although it's certainly up there 19:08:04 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Quit: BRB in 1 min). 19:08:20 up WHERE? 19:08:28 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 19:08:30 among the most evil 19:08:44 i suppose that should be "down there" 19:08:55 it looks like Endoh added a new quine to his crazy quine relay program for each day of the advent calendar 19:09:00 so now it has 100 19:09:08 poll: on a scale of 1 to about ten, how would you rate the evilness of underload? 19:09:13 0 19:09:16 did he include malbolge twh 19:09:37 I think that underload is actually similar to a normal programming language 19:09:43 boily: 3 maybe 19:09:46 they're called "concatenative languages" 19:09:48 but i'm biased 19:09:51 and I don't really believe people program in them... 19:09:56 since i actually _can_ program in it 19:10:03 oh. indeed. 19:10:30 Category: Ruby derivatives 19:12:06 hey they did BLC in it 19:12:14 vanila: pretty sure some do 19:12:20 vanila: in what? 19:12:26 the 100 language quine 19:12:32 ah 19:13:01 malbolge is probably too hard not the least because of the size limit 19:13:02 Endoh probably got wind of that from last ioccc 19:13:34 https://github.com/mame/quine-relay/commit/4b9747e0b65753600a17f22ca867b6247e95366c 19:14:01 -!- nortti has changed nick to lawspeaker. 19:14:10 underload should be easy to include in a quine relay 19:15:08 -!- lawspeaker has changed nick to nortti. 19:17:06 http://hebrew.pwn.seccon.jp/nikud/hebrew-utf16le.html 19:17:08 is this an esolang 19:19:01 oerjan: of course. usually any one language is easy to include in a quine relay, because in all but one languages you can just use a single print statement 19:19:33 boily: let me extend the list very inaccurately for comparison: befunge 4, brainfuck 5, /// 6 and fueue 8 19:20:02 actually that might be unfair to befunge 19:20:16 well i did say inaccurately 19:20:35 oh unlambda 7 19:22:55 b_jonas: i think malbolge might be one exception there. 19:24:04 oerjan: sure, some crazy obfu-languages can be exceptions 19:24:04 like, even in underload you can't write a print statement printing unbalanced parens or something 19:24:06 or can you? 19:24:45 no 19:26:03 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Quit: Test). 19:26:17 How is Yusuko so AWESOME 19:28:17 "LLVM to Befunge compiler" 19:28:33 -!- dts|pokeball has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 19:28:41 https://github.com/shinh/beflisp/blob/master/beflisp.bef 19:29:37 -!- dts|pokeball has joined. 19:32:53 is lisp2d esoteric? 19:33:06 I think its normal lisp except the brackets can go vertical using v ^ 19:33:15 https://github.com/shinh/beflisp/blob/master/fizzbuzz.l2d 19:33:46 it is imo 19:34:14 Is lisp esoteric 19:34:18 no 19:34:28 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Rottytooth * uploaded "[[File:Folders 99bottles.png]]": 99 Bottles of Beer program for Folders language 19:35:02 beflisp2d.bef is a joke extension of Lisp. You can use 2D S expression. See fizzbuzz.l2d for an example of 2D Lisp code. 19:35:46 [wiki] [[Folders]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41582&oldid=41576 * Rottytooth * (+148) /* Examples */ 19:40:32 oerjan, thoughts? 19:43:23 no 19:46:43 what do you mean by no 19:47:31 no thoughts hth 19:48:12 okay :) 19:48:14 thanks 19:52:20 You're all assholes. Any language is esoteric. hth 19:52:39 not every language is esoteric 19:52:42 for example, lisp isn't 19:53:46 bah, is the way Godel constructed his number esoteric? yes. and it's basically lisp. 19:53:58 Or so Hofstadter told me. 19:53:59 :/ 19:54:05 its not lisp at all are you trolling 19:54:26 hofstadder is a popular writer 19:54:31 To that I say "ha." 19:54:51 Nah, you're probably right. I don't know enough to present a convincing argument. 19:56:10 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * Rottytooth * uploaded a new version of "[[File:Folders 99bottles.png]]" 19:56:48 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:11:57 [wiki] [[Trinary]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41584&oldid=38664 * 80.229.228.34 * (-23) not related 20:24:03 -!- hjulle has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 20:55:06 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 20:56:29 vanila: I would say that Lisp is the least esoteric language with the largest reputation for being so anyway, while C is the most esoteric language with the least reputation for being so. ;) 20:56:57 haha 21:04:57 https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ulsmc/best_phishing_scam_ive_ever_seen_raising/ 21:06:49 freefall :P 21:07:31 oerjan, yeah, I loved it 21:09:55 Sgeo: Or, you know, you could just not click on attachments you don't know anything about ... 21:11:51 how to not get hackked: Don't 21:16:01 -!- GeekDude has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:16:05 # of times I've clicked on an attachment in an email I did not specifically request since ever: 0 21:17:56 @localtime fizzie 21:17:59 Local time for fizzie is Fri Jan 2 21:17:56 2015 21:18:19 (That's what makes it official, right?) 21:18:59 you're just ignoring a real threat 21:25:11 -!- GeekDude has joined. 21:27:14 fizzie's being threatened by time? 21:27:45 Damn, I'm too old. I'd have circled the leading MZ in the .TXT file ;-) 21:27:46 fizzie: whoa 21:29:21 time is marching on without mercy. 21:30:30 J_Arcane: You're better than I. I receive PDFs in e-mails all the time, and one of my mail clients is the clicky GUI type. 21:33:19 Good one though, I wonder how they encode that meta information in the zip file. 21:34:29 int-e: Well, that's probably another factor: I have only ever uses web-mail clients save for a few brief stints, originally by necessity, then out of habit after far too many exploits that didn't even need user interaction to execute (Outlook was infamous for this, maybe still is) 21:34:36 i feel so safe for still using (al)pine 21:34:54 oerjan: Probably even smarter than me. :D 21:35:05 of course this makes it a chore whenever someone _does_ send an attachment. 21:35:20 (that i want to open.) 21:35:21 UUDecode! 21:36:08 J_Arcane: part of the problem is my email is running on a remote host which i'm accessing through putty with no real gui connection 21:37:06 X forwarding!!!!!!!!!!! 21:37:10 !!!!!!! 21:37:13 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:37:23 ! 21:37:32 which means my way of seeing attachments tends to involve copying them to my website and opening them in IE 21:37:47 (the website is also on that remote host) 21:38:32 elliott: that would involve (getting and) starting an X server which sounds even more annoying. 21:40:33 J_Arcane: Hmm, if it were web based I wouldn't write "GUI". 21:41:32 (I meant thunderbird) 21:41:49 int-e: Yeah, that's what I mean. My relationship with GUI desktop mail programs has largely been limited to a few abortive attempts to tolerate Thunderbird or Kmail, and a brief period where I used Apple Mail a lot. 21:41:57 Mostly I can't stand the damn things anyway. 21:42:57 Well, it's a failure of mine of using mutt effectively with several accounts and mail folders. 21:43:59 `addquote (I need to stop talking about my habits so much (Uh I'm doing it again, STOP! (Uh I give up. (Really, I should stop doing this all the time. (AAARGH!))))) 21:44:01 1229) (I need to stop talking about my habits so much (Uh I'm doing it again, STOP! (Uh I give up. (Really, I should stop doing this all the time. (AAARGH!))))) 21:44:47 oerjan: thanks for the reminder 21:44:53 int-e: btw my usual way of checking freefall is to type fr in the address bar 21:45:17 oerjan: but that would *only* give me the latest comic. 21:45:21 then arrow down if it isn't autocompleted 21:45:31 whereas I want the comic that I most recently read. 21:46:23 int-e: oh i guess if you're reading in batches... 21:46:24 (I do the address bar thing for xkcd ... because xkcd has no story arcs) 21:47:01 since i check it every time it comes out that isn't a problem for me 21:47:30 oerjan: The irony is, I usually check the comics as soon as I know there's a new one to read; but sometimes, I do forget about it. And actually seeing the previous comic again is good for remembering context. 21:47:39 the main comic i read batchwise, for some reason, is smbc. 21:47:52 oerjan, actually, same 21:47:58 Also satw, though 21:48:06 which means i read it backwards, since it too has no story arcs 21:49:00 i don't read satw 21:49:06 Well, satw has a slower update schedule than the schedule of me remembering it exists 21:49:23 Which means I read it serially in practise 21:50:48 int-e: i do tend to ocdally open the previous comic in another tab whenever i check a comic 21:50:58 just in case i've missed one 21:54:03 I don't have any sophisticated system for reading webcomics, I just remember that one exists and type in the URL 21:54:30 I also feel like I ought to go to bed soon 21:54:32 Goodnight! 21:55:16 sweet dreams 21:55:19 Bonne nuitaneb! 22:00:35 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 22:03:23 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:20:05 hehe. "If the current trend continues then 2015 will be one of the most unproductive years in modern history." 22:20:45 Taneb: olist has the worst url hth 22:20:49 (paraphrasing from an article published at noon yesterday) 22:21:03 the url for the current olist comic is http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html 22:21:28 (and by 'yesterday' I mean January 1st) 22:21:48 `? olist 22:21:48 @time int-e 22:21:49 Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. 22:21:50 Local time for int-e is Fri Jan 2 23:21:48 2015 22:21:52 -!- nys has quit (Quit: brb). 22:22:14 I wish I had had that idea earlier... 22:22:18 `? slist 22:22:19 Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. 22:22:45 `` ls wisdom/*list* 22:22:46 wisdom/bdsmreclist \ wisdom/danddreclist \ wisdom/kallisti \ wisdom/list \ wisdom/olist \ wisdom/slist 22:23:08 Finding actually useful wisdom in HackEgo is a bit of a surprise. 22:23:15 how do I get wisdom 22:23:25 `? wisdom 22:23:26 wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? 22:23:33 vanila: not in #esoteric, that's for sure 22:23:40 `? ørjan 22:23:40 ​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. 22:23:44 lol 22:24:54 `? vanila 22:24:54 vanila? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:26:02 `` echo 'In a cruel twist of fate, vanila has come to #esoteric looking for wisdom.' > wisdom/vanila 22:26:04 No output. 22:26:08 `? vanila 22:26:09 In a cruel twist of fate, vanila has come to #esoteric looking for wisdom. 22:26:25 slashlearn is forgotten once again 22:26:35 gotta give that thing a catchier name 22:26:49 shachaf: at least I remembered not to use `learn 22:27:14 progress! 22:28:04 `` sed -i 's/looking for/in search of/' wisdom/vanila 22:28:05 No output. 22:28:15 thanks guys.... 22:28:17 :) 22:30:15 i sense a soul in search of wisdom 22:30:29 that rings a bell. Diablo 1? 22:31:12 Yes. 22:31:17 (Not that I ever played Diablo 1.) 22:31:34 The 1 is just for disambiguation. 22:32:05 `learn 1 is just for disambiguation. 22:32:08 Learned '1': 1 is just for disambiguation. 22:32:18 I played Diablo 2. 22:32:23 oh hm 22:32:29 `learn The 1 is just for disambiguation. 22:32:30 Learned '1': The 1 is just for disambiguation. 22:33:17 shachaf: the Haskell naming convention suggests learn' ;-) 22:34:00 (`learn' foobar And this is how we learned about frotz and xyzzy.) 22:34:17 `learn' in `ski quotes' 22:34:18 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: learn': not found 22:34:21 Oops. 22:34:37 `' 22:34:38 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ': not found 22:35:04 int-e: haskell would have a learnBy which takes a ridiculously general second argument that you need another function to construct the most useful case of 22:35:05 `` ln -s \' bin/quote 22:35:06 ln: failed to create symbolic link `bin/quote': File exists 22:35:12 errrrrr 22:35:20 `` ln -s quote bin/\' 22:35:22 No output. 22:35:29 `' sword 22:35:29 1057) I would like to learn how to use a sword And also how to ride a unicycle Perhaps not at the same time 22:38:43 `` ls -l bin/\? 22:38:44 ​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 372 Sep 12 13:29 bin/? 22:38:52 `` ls -l bin/wisdom 22:38:52 ls: cannot access bin/wisdom: No such file or directory 22:43:37 that's definitely one of the best quotes 22:45:24 HI <-- hm i wonder if corsee went after people saying "hi" (i did too) on the assumption they'd be newbies and not channel ops 22:46:37 ah no 22:46:46 boily's case doesn't fit 22:47:14 I didn't get spammed *feels left out* 22:48:04 int-e: you weren't saying anything 22:48:35 Yes, I know. Sleep tends to do that to me. 22:48:37 boily: did you say anything before corsee spammed you? 22:48:55 what was the spam 22:48:59 (feel free to /msg it instead) 22:53:03 I think we can all agree with ClickHole that the past year was the best 2014 ever 22:54:20 no 22:54:44 `2014 this is the best 2014 ever 22:54:45 No output. 22:55:06 oh i know 22:55:09 `which 2014 22:55:10 ​/hackenv/bin/2014 22:55:13 `cat bin/2015 22:55:14 cat: bin/2015: No such file or directory 22:55:14 `cat bin/2014 22:55:15 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "2014" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 22:55:18 `cat bin/2014 22:55:18 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "2014" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 22:55:19 pft, %Y 22:55:26 should use date +%G 22:56:52 `` cp bin/201{4,5}; sed -i 's/2014/205/;s/=/!=/' bin/2015 22:56:54 `run sed -i 's/2014/$(basename "$0")/' 22:56:54 No output. 22:56:55 sed: no input files 22:56:59 Sgeo: I see you're not believing in many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics. 22:57:01 `run sed -i 's/2014/$(basename "$0")/' bin/2014 22:57:03 No output. 22:57:13 DAMMIT 22:57:15 `2014 22:57:15 No output. 22:57:18 `cat bin/2015 22:57:19 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) != "205" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 22:57:26 `rm bin/2015 22:57:28 No output. 22:57:36 `cat bin/2014 22:57:37 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 22:57:38 `ln bin/2014 bin/2015 22:57:38 ln: accessing `bin/2014 bin/2015': No such file or directory 22:57:46 `rm bin/2015 22:57:47 rm: cannot remove `bin/2015': No such file or directory 22:57:47 `` ln bin/2014 bin/2015 22:57:49 No output. 22:57:52 `2015 22:57:53 Hello, world! 22:57:54 `rm bin/2015 22:57:55 No output. 22:57:57 D: 22:58:08 nortti: THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO 22:58:16 ↁ: 22:58:29 2015 should be backward-compatible with 2014 22:58:31 oerjan: WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO DO, THEN? 22:58:38 `` cp bin/201{4,5}; sed -i 's/=/!=/' bin/2015 22:58:40 No output. 22:58:46 `cat bin/2015 22:58:47 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) != "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 22:58:50 `2015 22:58:51 No output. 22:58:54 there you go 22:59:04 but... it is 2015 22:59:40 oh, it has a one year deprecation cycle built in, works for me. 22:59:50 Unless you're using the Go playground 23:02:29 and ... 2016 could be if [ $$($(date +%Y) % 2) == 0 ]; then echo "Hello, world!"; fi 23:02:32 -!- adu has joined. 23:02:36 but lets not get ahead of ourselves. 23:02:46 urkh. 23:02:50 $$() --> $(()) 23:02:53 so, 2018 will be 2014? 23:02:58 erm, 2016 23:04:05 it's "designed" to be compatible with 2014 ins 2014 and 2015; compatible with 2015 in 2014, 2015 and 2016, and disagree afterwards. 23:06:30 where "ins", of course, is the plural of "in". 23:09:56 -!- G33kDude has joined. 23:11:00 are other plurals ons, tos, froms, ats? 23:11:52 unders, behinds, ins fronts ofs? 23:12:11 at is irregular, its plural is it. 23:12:56 that's an interesting mutation 23:13:11 what is its etymology? 23:13:57 -!- GeekDude has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:13:58 -!- G33kDude has changed nick to GeekDude. 23:16:00 -!- GeekDude has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:16:15 -!- GeekDude has joined. 23:18:13 nortti: well, you see, there are birds and flowers... 23:18:37 this is going to be an interesting one 23:18:38 -!- G33kDude has joined. 23:21:22 and a horse, and a watermelon eventually, but only in the later chapters. 23:22:22 (the fruit was censored during a few centuries by the Church.) 23:22:36 -!- GeekDude has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 23:22:40 -!- G33kDude has changed nick to GeekDude. 23:27:55 boily: http://static.nichtlustig.de/toondb/010813.html "Well that really beats everything! What kind of perverse smut are you brats drawing on our school's wall?" 23:28:31 bwah ah ah ah ah :D 23:35:48 -!- nys has joined. 23:43:31 Blah, I don't see an API for Google Maps search 23:43:38 Actually, hmm 23:43:44 What I need is an API for transport information 23:44:36 Maybe I don't need Google 23:44:55 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 23:45:40 Actually, yeah, I want Google 23:55:01 -!- boily has quit (Quit: WINGED CHICKEN). 23:55:41 -!- myname has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:57:36 -!- myname has joined.