< 1421020820 540691 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as I understand its a graph of states, so it would kinda be, but it would be a lattice < 1421020836 39657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Turning_tarpit < 1421020839 148234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ACTIVATED (SACRIFICE THIS) (REPEAT 3 (DRAW-CARD YOU))) < 1421020866 755009 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :my program draws a folded lattice state machine, not just a state machine. < 1421020929 715977 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is no turning machine! < 1421020932 520652 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it would be visible, but the y-axis is decided by what executes first, higher being first < 1421020945 511582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ok so the second part is not quite the same. < 1421020971 988563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it _is_ a pun on Turing tarpit, which also exists < 1421020982 263318 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's good to know that the term started as a pun < 1421021017 697676 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r0nk: they aren't exactly executed < 1421021020 187714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sometimes caused confusing over at wikipedia's esolang article :P < 1421021023 792538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*confusion < 1421021034 279409 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1421021037 892558 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how that? < 1421021074 37858 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r0nk: the whole graph is one state < 1421021093 261278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to draw the execution since it's not linear < 1421021121 211306 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :for eodermdrome or turing machines? < 1421021130 249026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome < 1421021300 41987 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah im going to have to read more on eoderdrome... < 1421021335 655256 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Half-Broken_Car_in_Heavy_Traffic that may be my second favorite long name right behind wigner's fuckbuddy < 1421021372 789715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you're making Real Fast Nora jealous < 1421021389 677667 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about it yet < 1421021394 762104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1421021407 729665 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any way to list languages ordered by length of their name? < 1421021411 588138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Real_Fast_Nora%27s_Hair_Salon_3:_Shear_Disaster_Download < 1421021415 180515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1421021415 260378 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be fun, i assume < 1421021457 645883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you'd been here long enough to have been exposed to Nora through osmosis :P < 1421021499 496779 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not as funny as wigner's fuckbuddy imho < 1421021514 188360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1421021542 437081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, what about https://esolangs.org/wiki/Most_ever_Brainfuckiest_Fuck_you_Brain_fucker_Fuck < 1421021585 13421 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1421021587 710254 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :i likeit < 1421021595 751297 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :ileiket < 1421021715 479935 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now i really want that sorting option < 1421021734 616410 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some category "ridiculous long names" < 1421022103 991492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1421022729 661774 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't Real Fast Nora named after spam? < 1421023112 967642 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1421023446 887456 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421023463 175863 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421023528 819290 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421023546 192027 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421023964 374313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering it is described two kind of "vanilla" being normal vanilla and French vanilla, but now I have made up a new kind of vanilla. < 1421023969 5999 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421024105 511174 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MADAGASCAR CHICKEN < 1421024151 974815 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421024928 591718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes < 1421025060 462267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the page was originally created by a spambot. although it was deleted before Taneb recreated it as an esolang. < 1421025095 798415 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 0x29a: There is an esolang for given spam page creation. < 1421025411 728034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think 0x29a was spam, though. < 1421025456 682829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are right; 0x29A is just the hex code for 666 < 1421025461 239614 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's a base 36 < 1421025461 930607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1421025488 313910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: i've always assumed the 666 allusion was intentional < 1421025508 26950 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's just a nice repunit < 1421025511 159320 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still. < 1421025518 198034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421025719 568552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: let me guess, you're not christian or at least not very acquainted with the bible >:) < 1421025783 328262 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I obviously know that connection, but personally don't care :p < 1421025792 437977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1421025981 949069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect most people here in the channel to care little about religion, i meant culturally < 1421026042 831950 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: use `echo $RANDOM` to decide on the arbitrary small integer to be posted to the channel < 1421026308 626371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $RANDOM < 1421026309 463794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20133 < 1421026317 809769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very small < 1421026324 823325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was hoping for 42 < 1421026344 787772 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $(($RANDOM % 666)) < 1421026345 919246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :55 < 1421026349 66855 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:) < 1421026371 838565 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: no, it is not working < 1421026763 288216 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421027602 361363 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421027647 800398 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1421029089 52385 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421029209 365004 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421029397 323700 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1421029413 436073 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421030037 6454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Velato14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41669&oldid=41668 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+208) 10It's on Wayback and perfectly playable; also change some formatting < 1421030570 276931 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421030739 162821 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421030792 697625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421032543 230660 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421032975 210958 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421033082 87950 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1421033523 84521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421033569 467787 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421033631 314502 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421034007 508494 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421034158 732927 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1421034253 445642 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421034341 693789 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421034766 450149 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421034793 918798 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421035893 502984 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421038701 753157 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1421039206 352618 :arjanb!8259ab0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.13 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1421039352 892518 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421039392 150992 :basichash!~user@ip-109-42-1-84.web.vodafone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1421039402 415777 :basichash!~user@ip-109-42-1-84.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this channel? < 1421039418 656626 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1421039419 420164 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1421039419 965068 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its about werd programming languages < 1421039426 369248 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1421039465 497544 :basichash!~user@ip-109-42-1-84.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like brainfuck? < 1421039500 46555 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1421039505 12400 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the main one < 1421039696 157613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you want a volcano that close, randall < 1421039710 897866 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1421039744 245042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1421039754 748325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes r0nk suspiciously < 1421039839 502345 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION draws pretty graphs < 1421039852 693630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have stick figures? < 1421039887 927232 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have little dots-n-shit < 1421039891 780171 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :and flash < 1421039902 212851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, inconclusive. < 1421039908 101086 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :gigity < 1421040046 417367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stealthily pours a few hundred colored plastic balls onto the floor near r0nk < 1421040095 266407 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps drawing pretty graphs, unaware of the schemes against him. < 1421040120 302058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ncurses, foiled again < 1421040152 13450 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? I can't hear you over the mprintw < 1421040174 295108 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did these balls come from? < 1421040329 351727 :basichash!~user@ip-109-42-1-84.web.vodafone.de PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 0.4.2" < 1421040446 461530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should i know? i certainly did not put them there while you weren't looking. pay no attention to the backscroll. also don't mind the raptor footprints. < 1421040484 550266 :r0nk!r0nk@gateway/shell/openshells.net/x-jbtellgawhueogmb PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wha-... < 1421040611 696199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may be too sleepy to continue the experiment. < 1421040647 500317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1421040743 84559 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its also CRAZYhere < 1421041129 985518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any footprints < 1421041209 866582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it was during these times raptor jesus put you on his shoulders and engaged HYPERTHRUSTERS to hover above the sand < 1421043088 38343 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421044618 416630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone like to supply data from their internet server using RVTP, or to write SQLite extension to allow connecting to RVTP server, or even any other server or client related stuff or anything else about it? < 1421045121 436084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421045218 219502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There's also "double scoop french vanilla", isn't there? < 1421045239 819547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1421045341 758554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example to access financial data, weather reports, weather forecasts, texts and prices of Magic: the Gathering cards, country data (population and others), etc. Even data that can be writable is supported with RVTP too. < 1421045352 511717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but that isn't what I did either. < 1421045361 366011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you? < 1421045436 175435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I made even several noncreature cards that use only keyword abilities, and creatures having only keyword abilities even if they aren't normally for creatures (and even noncreatures that have keyword abilities that are normally only for creatures) < 1421047396 39691 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-165-112.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1421048513 747855 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1421048667 711640 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421050092 818686 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421050092 940507 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421050932 254386 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07XRF14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41670&oldid=41623 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+917) 10Linked my quine and a faster, partial interpreter written in C. < 1421050999 547790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error "Not implemented." -- The fastest interpreter in the West (up to constant factors). < 1421051000 944661 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Not implemented. < 1421051016 27320 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant *partial* interpreter < 1421051087 890360 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language does it interpret < 1421051307 52177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them. < 1421051342 488552 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fully extensibly design. < 1421051358 959523 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*extensible < 1421051382 927889 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1421051449 299310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: noncreature cards that use only keyword abilities - some such official cards are the basic lands, the snow basic lands, the limited double lands, and Ardent Plea < 1421051484 157335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's this RVTP? < 1421051518 759346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there are a few such official cards, but most of them don't do a lot and there doesn't seem to be a specific designation for these kind of cards. < 1421051521 766339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is "remote virtual table protocol" < 1421051526 466470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. < 1421051538 874647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need the protocol specification I can send it to you. < 1421051544 520605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't the designation "french vanilla non-creature"? < 1421051601 923435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I have never seen such a thing in lists of what are the variants of "vanilla"; all it says is that "vanilla" and "French vanilla" and "virtual vanilla" are meant only for creatures < 1421051697 428251 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm quite sure I've heared "vanilla" for non-creatures once, though they rarely talk about that because there are very few vanilla non-creatures and I think they're all basic lands < 1421051859 303820 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'd be more interested in a rationale, and how it relates to Semantic Web things like SPARQL... < 1421051867 27440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's of course a vanilla enchantment creature, a vanilla land creature, and at least four vanilla artifact creatures < 1421051911 741348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, way more than four. including ones I've never heared of < 1421051931 836470 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least six I should have already remembered. < 1421051975 362188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some things about "French vanilla" say not only that it is a creature but that its keyword abilities are only those meant for creatures. < 1421052000 582189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some keyword abilities only work on creatures; however there are some that are normally on creatures but can work on any card.) < 1421052016 279901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's the difference? do you mean creatures with cascade? creatures with modular? < 1421052037 10490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does french vanilla count only evergreen keywords, or keywords that were evergreen at the point when that creature was pritned? < 1421052064 769847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some other texts said only evergreen. It is unclear exactly what it is supposed to mean. < 1421052078 5106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Nath's Buffoon count as french vanilla? < 1421052093 891701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :protection is an evergreen ability, but not only for creatures < 1421052131 284088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, RVTP is meant to be specifically for SQL (especially SQLite, although it may be usable in other programs too), and not based on webpages or anything like that. < 1421052195 768069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't know the answer to that question either. It also isn't a common kind of protection ability, but it is still protection. < 1421052260 951591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :protection from french vanilla < 1421052413 213330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: But regardless of the format, I would find it very useful to do queries of data accessed by internet from within SQLite (by using SQLite extension), rather than using webpages or telnet interfaces or whatever else is done. < 1421052730 923634 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1421052744 211300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else I want is a SQLite extension to do graphics. Why can I find neither such an extension nor a suitable software library to make such an extension out of? < 1421052758 135847 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why? < 1421052777 823196 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is SQLite a suitable platform for doing that? < 1421052832 634036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, why not? < 1421053074 912972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, what kind of graphics? < 1421053080 668557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you be more specific? < 1421053183 555528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graphics for plotting data on bar graphs and so on, but also could be use with other diagrams and possibly also arbitrary graphics < 1421053204 177418 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so gnuplot-like facility to SQLite? < 1421053300 207743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose like that < 1421053618 15310 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1421055118 983203 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iuzjdganjymfgyow QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1421057614 436596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it so difficult? < 1421057683 346514 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :an SQL table could have the color of each pixel < 1421057731 96913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, perhaps a virtual table, but I want to have functions for statistical graphics too, not only manually programmed graphics < 1421057786 748047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is easy to write SQLite extensions in C, although I cannot even find any suitable C library < 1421059435 187116 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421060908 352494 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421060937 237671 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421061381 463059 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421061468 778003 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1421065203 640734 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: IDENTICAL CHICKEN < 1421065471 451230 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1421065734 985802 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1421065771 219776 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421066046 338184 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421066067 435461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Tsadf 5* 10New user account < 1421066235 78822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41671&oldid=41625 5* 03Tsadf 5* (+10) 10/* Q */ < 1421066464 653383 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`messages < 1421066465 324515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: messages: not found < 1421066470 232760 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^messages < 1421066505 362482 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>messages < 1421066640 783477 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :%messages < 1421066643 926872 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1421066649 99605 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :&messages < 1421066652 336385 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*messages < 1421066656 3300 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :]messages < 1421066662 24741 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN IT < 1421066716 475391 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1421066716 607250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1421066750 561577 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1421066776 501951 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ity was @... it would be useful if lambdabot had @ in his name < 1421066801 833048 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC doesn't even allow that < 1421066820 222363 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1421066820 299434 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1421066870 785331 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of those areallowed in irc names apparently < 1421067277 886949 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ^_^ < 1421067278 620064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1421067310 286441 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Haskell have some in-memory buffer? < 1421067318 23632 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like hPutStrLn buf < 1421067322 578207 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I can later read from? < 1421067387 320209 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1421067393 862824 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Text.pack < 1421067394 922228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘Text.pack’ < 1421067397 741408 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t T.pack < 1421067398 653723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘T.pack’ < 1421067398 697125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘BS.pack’ (imported from Data.ByteString) < 1421068048 417808 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could not find module ‘DynFlags’ It is a member of the hidden package ‘ghc-7.8.3’ < 1421068052 348127 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... then unhide it? < 1421068100 776931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci -package ghc < 1421068118 334774 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would advice against unhiding the ghc package in general, but it's possible: ghc-pkg unhide ghc < 1421068123 474277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*advise < 1421068132 181082 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*advize < 1421068189 502887 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my native language, why are you so hard to use correctly!?!?! < 1421068227 606026 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people are complicated? < 1421068277 777218 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1421068282 644177 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does compile with ghc -package ghc < 1421068285 63936 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won't run < 1421068344 87696 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle print < 1421068345 474455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude print :: Show a => a -> IO () < 1421068345 518170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.IO print :: Show a => a -> IO () < 1421068345 518290 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.Printf printf :: PrintfType r => String -> r < 1421068381 592339 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. neat < 1421068529 482096 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1421068538 897838 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't the GHC API let me compile a String? < 1421068543 137751 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than me giving it a file name? < 1421068566 559470 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1421068568 217145 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :targetContents < 1421068568 881027 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1421068666 396082 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle String -> StringBuffer < 1421068666 902275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Unknown type StringBuffer < 1421068666 945641 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude error :: [Char] -> a < 1421068666 945761 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debug.Trace trace :: String -> a -> a < 1421068670 805845 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1421068799 364944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QFL14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41672 5* 03Tsadf 5* (+1471) 10Created page with "'''QFL''' is a [[Turing tarpit]] inspired by [[Iota]] and [[Jot]]. Basically it's a [[Iota]] with IO. == Features == * functional purity * literate programming * full unico..." < 1421068814 449959 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle [Char] -> StringBuffer < 1421068814 669843 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Unknown type StringBuffer < 1421068814 713194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude error :: [Char] -> a < 1421068814 713313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debug.Trace trace :: String -> a -> a < 1421068817 739337 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1421068832 366226 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stringToStringBuffer < 1421068876 367041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QFL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41673&oldid=41672 5* 03Tsadf 5* (-1) 10/* Input */ < 1421068940 498354 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ClockTime < 1421068940 558629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Time data ClockTime < 1421068940 601948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Time addToClockTime :: TimeDiff -> ClockTime -> ClockTime < 1421068940 602068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Time diffClockTimes :: ClockTime -> ClockTime -> TimeDiff < 1421069020 112836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QFL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41674&oldid=41673 5* 03Tsadf 5* (+1) 10/* IO */ < 1421069209 484516 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421069364 103452 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/hV0ogcX < 1421069366 761845 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to work :( < 1421069380 278780 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC version 7.8.3 for i386-unknown-linux): < 1421069380 366070 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module ‘B.hs’ < 1421069598 125972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QFL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41675&oldid=41674 5* 03Tsadf 5* (+85) 10/* Realization */ < 1421069742 352565 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421070628 847567 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My skill level at nethack: TERRIBLE < 1421070800 94182 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421070839 264392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QFL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41676&oldid=41675 5* 03Tsadf 5* (+55) 10/* Realization */ < 1421070983 272039 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what did you do? < 1421071001 488445 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jameseb, I died because of an endless stream of snakes on the first level < 1421071005 426285 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I must go to a lecture < 1421071059 292283 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: were you fountain quaffing when you shouldn't have been? < 1421071176 508999 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421071427 505286 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transcript of my most recent nethack game: o esc tab # q ret y q < 1421071624 183597 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421071765 190531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:MNNBFSL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41677&oldid=41516 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+268) 10Added some snippets of standard length. < 1421072211 177645 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1421072213 318280 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1421072266 653708 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome vanila < 1421072267 658892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1421072281 609156 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I remembered. < 1421072744 988750 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome < 1421072745 989558 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1421072803 521304 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`belcome < 1421072803 930686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: belcome: not found < 1421072820 79861 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's racists. < 1421072825 647904 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racist? < 1421073775 59913 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421073788 261281 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421073820 169779 :^v!~^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421073820 292488 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421073828 927956 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421073846 195616 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421073938 140265 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421074107 195850 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1421074556 774345 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421075084 983556 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a thing I can paste a lot of txt into thne generate random markov sentences from it? < 1421075098 384614 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :in browser would be uesful.. < 1421075112 916640 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lab.yuyat.jp/markov-chain/ < 1421075133 872894 :u-ou!no-n@unaffiliated/no-n JOIN :#esoteric < 1421075351 951951 :u-ou!no-n@unaffiliated/no-n PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com" < 1421075929 638004 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ( ] { ) < } < [ > ] > < 1421075930 67404 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: (] {) <} < [ > ] > < 1421075958 254210 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow program with interlinked brackets < 1421075968 791058 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :took idea from elsehwere < 1421076107 546680 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421076148 990974 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1421076500 244762 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421076538 580994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many roads must a man? < 1421076538 729067 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can also do < 1421076592 285806 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421076797 463395 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1421076993 152223 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai JOIN :#esoteric < 1421077000 343973 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :The animu's < 1421077001 992369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you being sassy? < 1421077002 132501 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: all right :) i agree with augur would work < 1421077030 517379 :Solace!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai NICK :Lilax < 1421077039 400623 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoooaaa hello < 1421077040 388297 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421077053 86413 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired of all these msgs < 1421077055 160769 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah thats right, agree with me, unf < 1421077061 728797 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :About how I need to log in < 1421077066 329494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1421077078 159064 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_ what are you on about < 1421077112 766438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I for one think divining from the entrains would be preferable in that case < 1421077112 988070 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they can't do " fnord" page, but you can't < 1421077132 675546 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is life? < 1421077133 176799 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: maybe i'll go visit the chicken site says it supports quantum computation? quantum intercal or what?!" talk. i'd like a cut. either way, it would've gone unnoticed by me :) < 1421077142 221911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is this a pun or a misspelling of "entrails" < 1421077143 520499 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good < 1421077153 790714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspelling < 1421077156 605024 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: what are YOU on about? < 1421077160 900392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be entrails < 1421077163 265403 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat < 1421077171 329087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1421077180 94315 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_ wot? < 1421077235 126523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fools, have you awaken the augur_! < 1421077247 891223 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA < 1421077252 112822 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused oerjan < 1421077253 839523 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blame fungott < 1421077254 330444 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: for whatever reason, a ( syntactic) environment, and that < 1421077256 489486 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot* even < 1421077256 995102 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: or better yet, the procedures compiled with the cc-built installation results in a " worse but temporary" way to do js cps js enabled.) < 1421077286 380432 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: using emscripten? < 1421077287 120872 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: hrmn. i just saw this. i can't log on to comp.lang.scheme or the undernet or something? < 1421077289 683395 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot just pick random words < 1421077289 993899 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: so you define e.g. first two papers at http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/hxt/ cw04/ fnord why that is. < 1421077297 372367 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls no < 1421077301 568022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: that's the natural state of people in this channel hth < 1421077334 659407 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I'm solace btw I've just been getting that This isn't your account msg all the time < 1421077369 212625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why doyou hate me? < 1421077369 445860 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ( 0)'. but it's output in iso-8859-1 anyway.) < 1421077382 7249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ed < 1421077384 553463 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1421077403 560308 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1421077404 940066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1421077413 553129 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you lambdabot < 1421077471 822349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: fungot's babble is random, yes, although each word depends on the 2-3 or so that came before < 1421077472 115383 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: say bash tar gz for 79? sorry for not laughing, eh. < 1421077498 611739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has several styles < 1421077508 254712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1421077508 378958 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1421077515 475467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so are we all doomed? < 1421077515 802937 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but evil spies had doubtless reported much; for shortly a black galley put into port, and the world knows well the beauty, the stale and prosy triteness, and the < 1421077548 432530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a kitty pidgin bible style, do we have that yet? < 1421077653 23619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm open to the submission of new styles, preferrably in the form of standard ARPA N-gram models. < 1421077665 184257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are instructions in the github. < 1421077670 703763 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421077677 490675 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1421077682 145698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/varikn/readme.txt < 1421077682 404150 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: subsequent winds had effaced all tracks which could have been nothing from outside, he had said, or at least from prying too big for any healthy new england wood. there were < 1421077695 199237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: There were what? < 1421077695 551358 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not the terrific force of the elements was such as has befallen no man before. it was now impossible to see the sculptor and give him the rebuke i thought proper for so boldly imposing upon a learned and cultivated englishman. but for a few days later mr. ward did the most sensible < 1421077720 90098 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um, can't you just generate one from http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/bibul.txt (downloaded from an old version of http://lolcatbible.com/ ) < 1421077844 418699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory, if I have free time and remember and feel all that motivated. Besides, I don't have any of the stuff installed on the laptop, and the desktop is still back in Finland. < 1421077864 50103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1421077898 223446 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421077980 214915 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421077997 402288 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1421078091 404311 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421078934 222846 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1421079248 211140 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1421079505 635897 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1421079754 253592 :scoofy!~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421080148 416773 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421080581 613633 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :meastrith < 1421080635 181049 :meastrith!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1421080648 198947 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421080759 517072 :shikhin!~shikhin@120.56.224.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421080774 427253 :shikhin!~shikhin@120.56.224.18 QUIT :Changing host < 1421080774 524052 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421081170 222850 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1421081363 3418 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421081486 853216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1421081661 491761 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1421081682 587821 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421081816 609308 :S1!~S1@p4FF93D17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1421081903 546126 :SopaXorzTaker!~Mark@87.228.105.48 QUIT :Client Quit < 1421081924 646707 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1421082486 249526 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421082511 181812 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421082575 117383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1421083274 392041 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nuopryucsbwwxquw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1421083393 436743 :S1!~S1@p4FF93D17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S0 < 1421083704 36783 :S0!~S1@p4FF93D17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S1 < 1421085012 482306 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvakpekdjapgfeai QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1421085529 545258 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1421085713 26662 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421086186 879994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gs214]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41678&oldid=39907 5* 03Nooodl 5* (+315) 10no information is better than misinformation I GUESS < 1421086226 327105 :arjanb!8259aa43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.170.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421087064 311769 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1421087068 751624 :FreeFull!~freefull@wk-30-193.guest.rdg.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1421087074 244431 :FreeFull!~freefull@wk-30-193.guest.rdg.ac.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1421087074 295127 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1421087110 928495 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421087168 821182 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421087284 560676 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421087703 232293 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1421087906 803407 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421089090 123061 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421089112 602304 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421089324 655804 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421089357 550071 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421090307 408274 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421090515 928074 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to rewrite something like boolean f(x,y)=f(x-1,y) or f(x,y-1) to use tail call optimization? < 1421091092 616356 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Doesn't that function recurse forever? < 1421091145 900660 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with tail-optimising that is that there are two calls, rather than just one < 1421091170 310107 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd have to be converted into some sort of linear form first < 1421092721 447581 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421092790 998742 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, f(x, y) = or(f(x-1, y), f(x, y-1)) < 1421092799 736903 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it isn't a tail call. < 1421092805 278458 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, uh. < 1421092811 867857 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it could be done automatically. < 1421092822 845000 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably rewrite it to something like < 1421092841 484758 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :f'(x, y, b) = f(x-1, y, f(x, y-1) | b) < 1421092980 381742 :oren!~oren@user237-55.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421093116 474989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's as much a tail-call as the original (with a short-circuiting or) < 1421093135 754858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would take a lot more fanciness to do more than that (if it's even possible, I don't have brain power right now) < 1421093139 442420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. I guess you need base cases too :P < 1421093257 442202 :oren!~oren@user237-55.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421093287 549572 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've realized that I know only enough Haskell to make an idiot of myself. < 1421093354 761083 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've looked at haskell from both sides now, from up and down and still somehow < 1421093365 147273 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's haskell's illusions i recall.. i really don't know haskell at all < 1421093387 182275 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My memory of the basics has gotten too spotty; need to start learning it all over again I think. < 1421093423 538468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only language anyone needs is *spins the wheel* MarioLANG < 1421093433 968217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spins the wheel again* or FakeASM < 1421093438 373885 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MarioLANG`? < 1421093448 694728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BogusForth and Imaginary function are also acceptable languages < 1421093463 420433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: some random esowiki language < 1421093469 168524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1421093668 22475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421093680 808261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1421093742 347641 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think instead I'll start going through one of the Haskell books/course/tutorials/somethingorother tomorrow. < 1421093764 660447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you read already? (in the ways of haskell introductions) < 1421093919 927964 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :About half of LYAH several months ago, this: https://www.fpcomplete.com/school/starting-with-haskell/haskell-fast-hard, and a lot of random practice problems. < 1421093950 933008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that non-LYAH tutorial was pretty bad the first time it came out < 1421093953 761700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's better now :p < 1421093975 164631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, in my opinion) < 1421093987 639747 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is fairly bad. It starts well, but it plummets by the last half. < 1421094028 182437 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it'd be a quick way to get back up to at least where I was last time I used Haskell. < 1421094077 513026 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421094123 393875 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421094167 180358 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking I'd try this one: https://www.fpcomplete.com/school/starting-with-haskell/basics-of-haskell or Real World Haskell. < 1421094219 102608 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fzfsrmpclxhiokdd QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421094222 650096 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exipxzakyxlofhgk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421094223 819779 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:4:: QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421094233 934308 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or re-read LYAH and skim past the boring bits so I can actually finish it. < 1421094332 33087 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421094356 815791 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xvjiimhbxbviewzh JOIN :#esoteric < 1421094381 704196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome supay < 1421094382 955612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06supay: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1421094387 558976 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Read error: Network is unreachable < 1421094394 201972 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eozaorntudrdxnrf JOIN :#esoteric < 1421094501 708516 :ocharles!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-beatytejrbiwxgyc JOIN :#esoteric < 1421094524 552014 :ocharles!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-beatytejrbiwxgyc NICK :Guest20168 < 1421094585 854616 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1421094593 193085 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421094625 163913 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:4:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1421094632 203289 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a417:b2b6:a205:68c9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421095052 315458 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-165-112.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1421095085 441605 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the looks of Real World Haskell because basically my biggest problem in Haskell then and now was that I had absolutely no idea how to use it for anything practical. < 1421095107 117309 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can golf < 1421095208 523610 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about all I've done with it, yes. Golfing and Codewars/Euler type stuff. < 1421095331 116320 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figure Haskell sounds like it's be good for making useful data structures, that you could then maybe use in other languages. < 1421095377 45490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs more rust < 1421095409 404561 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421095425 811190 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And generally being a thing that can lets you call stuff in it from other things. < 1421095557 401622 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1421095581 679368 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I kinda wanna learn Rust actually, but it's sort of a moving target at the moment. < 1421095606 890652 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0 beta should be there "real soon now" < 1421095776 163471 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's in alpha now apparently. < 1421096070 136544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: haskell is actually pretty terrible for that purpose imo < 1421096608 234660 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421096801 385337 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421097005 296782 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSleep < 1421097108 140712 :Zuu_!~zuu@0x5e911bd1.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1421097141 129382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1421097231 636738 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1421097246 372281 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1421097973 280813 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.65.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421098016 41432 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.75.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421100179 520240 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421100380 258741 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421100622 709131 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://rextester.com/ZQWWT68409 < 1421100708 427136 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not impressed < 1421100758 32976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=print$replicate 10 Dead -- golfed < 1421100865 307246 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421100961 966882 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: [0..9]>>[Dead] is shorter < 1421100999 679328 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1421101004 161214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, replicate 10Dead is valid. < 1421101015 759173 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to lay on the operators, at least go all the way: take n . map kill . repeat $ Alive < 1421101050 572055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=putStr$'[':([0..8]>>"Dead,")++"Dead]" -- saved the data declaration < 1421101060 693440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least deathFactory is inefficient. < 1421101070 537373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so mean :P < 1421101110 360465 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh. < 1421101119 700604 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can i say, my head's in a weird place. < 1421101133 38017 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote an object oriented version in Heresy too. < 1421101149 213378 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(map (fn (x) (send x 'kill)) people) ... < 1421101188 142519 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfsouxzejazsvkse JOIN :#esoteric < 1421101289 699238 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421101406 418609 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. deathFactory n = take n . map kill $ Alive : deathFactory n < 1421101418 205621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's inefficient, but thorough < 1421101493 31851 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421101513 815723 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- ensures O(1) survivors even in presence of errors in "kill" < 1421101551 477890 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1421101554 558280 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming they're random, independent, blah) < 1421101591 158973 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, of course, that the probability of kill resulting in death is >0. < 1421101610 575291 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :while dead people stay dead. < 1421101776 398127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it ensure O(1) survivors? < 1421101832 847730 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume kill will map the given Alive to Alive, thus the list will expand to Alive : Alive : deathFactory n < 1421101898 143530 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which could - since kill may leave Alive people Alive - lead to Alive : Alive : Alive : Alive : deathFactory n < 1421101913 58342 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and could lead to n people being alive < 1421101978 691111 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421102233 647629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1421102296 276507 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421102477 228120 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421102485 351169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1421104143 887426 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421104525 479445 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421104587 870088 :S1!~S1@p4FF93D17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1421104629 719141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a way to rewrite something like boolean f(x,y)=f(x-1,y) or f(x,y-1) to use tail call optimization? <-- i sense an X/Y problem < 1421104664 203859 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1421104722 963744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming your base cases are nicely laid out, that's rather trivial to optimize, but i wouldn't call it "tail call optimization" < 1421104740 893954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1421104741 532984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ c​o​p​p​r​o​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ < 1421104812 244286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course it'll break down for something more complicated than or. (although all binary boolean operators are easy - i once went through them when thinking about 1d CAs) < 1421104865 495877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically what you have there _is_ a CA, just with time steps diagonal < 1421104906 900185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it can be easily calculated in O(n) space and O(mn) time < 1421104955 947008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the name for it still isn't "tail call optimization" < 1421105083 357901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the binary boolean case can be done more efficiently. actually i think xor involved binomials (mod 2), which was the most complicated case.) < 1421105650 553954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell J_Arcane elliott: I think instead I'll start going through one of the Haskell books/course/tutorials/somethingorother tomorrow. <-- there was a blog post recently where someone gave their opinions on some courses tutorials (spoiler: he considered LYAH and several other common recommendations pedagogically bad and recommended a different path) http://bitemyapp.com/posts/2014-12-31-functional-education.html < 1421105650 673838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1421105662 399451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if lambdabot will pass on all that < 1421105696 283548 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421105710 690549 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I liked LYAH at first, but then it falls down in the middle by just filling up the book with short three line paragraphs explaining every single bloody item in the standard library. < 1421105744 447153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1421105751 662929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never read it himself, anyway < 1421105760 306347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned haskell too long ago < 1421105822 694193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fair enough, re: that post < 1421105833 820340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cis194 course is taught by byorgey so I'm surei t's good < 1421105836 477721 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are whole chapters of the book that are little more than just, say, starting with Data.List, and going through each of the major functions one at a time. A nice primer for an amateur when it comes to the really important ones like map and filter, but don't waste my time explaining every single thing in the docs, especially if you're not gonna take time to show me what actual use they are. < 1421105838 893366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sure it's good < 1421105887 153849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is Typeclassopedia in this list... oh lord, are people recommending the Typeclassopedia as an introduction to Haskell these days?! < 1421105923 546230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope not < 1421105946 861488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's more of an overview recommendation... < 1421106093 764498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the mean time, the slow development of real quantum computers keeps chugging along http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2155 < 1421106130 779563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dated. A lot of code no longer works. Author is too busy to fix it. If I got pestered by the Haskell community as much as the author has, I wouldn’t want to fix my book either." hmm, did I miss something with bos? < 1421106170 511453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're actually starting to test out error correction now) < 1421106213 551377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the full kind, but enough to get an 8.5 times improvement in coherence time) < 1421106281 517839 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The material often bores learners and leaves them feeling like they’re not “getting” it. This because they’re being “talked at” and demo’d to. They’re not engaging with and solving problems." < 1421106284 293984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm error rate < 1421106294 299234 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does rather sum up my LYAH experience past the initial stages. < 1421106338 494057 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421106375 234436 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's actually an adaptation of cis194 on FPComplete. < 1421106424 449945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall the blog post insisted on a particular semester version of the course (not the latest) < 1421106442 730538 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, he uses Spring 2013. < 1421106483 885696 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yorgey's version, same as the one on FPComplete. < 1421106505 452637 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015 isn't done yet, and '14 was a different instructor. < 1421106509 175996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good, i guess < 1421106589 700794 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421106950 404680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric