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Anywhere."). 17:06:46 -!- GeekDude has quit (Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)). 17:08:34 -!- MindVerse has joined. 17:08:54 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:15:38 -!- MindVerse has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:26:48 -!- GeekDude has joined. 17:35:40 int-e: https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/10000 17:36:17 You did it! 17:37:57 frabjous day 17:38:35 cheers 17:38:43 e::Send,% (!e?("e",e:=StrSplit(Clipboard),i:=1,s:=0,d:=10):((c:=e[i++])~="\d"?("e",s+=d--*c):(c="x"?("e",s+=d--*10):(c=""?(!Mod(s,11),e:=""):("e"))))) 17:38:56 AKA how to validate ISBNs with one line of AutoHotkey code 17:42:11 That's way too long 17:42:18 I bet it can be made shorter 17:56:47 In AutoHotkey? 17:56:50 I'd like to see you try 17:57:05 (Disclaimer: I know I can shave a few chars off at least) 17:59:04 Also, since X is only valid as a last character I can take out the d--*10 and replace it with just 10 while still maintaining usability 18:00:39 I wonder how much shorter it would be in J 18:00:48 much, much shorter 18:01:20 (0 = 11 | [: +/ (|. >: i.10)*(0".&>}:),0".' 10'"_^:('X'&=)@:{:)@:(-.&'-') '0-7475-3269-9' 18:02:06 Dunno if that's the best solution in J 18:02:11 it's the only one I found so far 18:02:34 much easier in apl, though. Two lines: `S ← 0 7 4 7 5 3 2 6 9 9` and `0=11∣+/(1+⍳10)×⌽S` 18:04:06 I can probably take some of the parentheses out of my solution sa well 18:09:36 -!- vanila has joined. 18:10:42 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: Rebooting for kernel update). 18:10:46 > let check x=last x=="0123456789X"!!mod(sum$zipWith(*)[1..9]$x>>=map fst.reads.(:[]))11 in check "0-306-40615-2" 18:10:47 True 18:11:45 GeekDude: what about the X in the APL code? 18:11:54 I'm not sure 18:11:58 I can't read APL 18:12:11 I don't think it's handled 18:12:35 https://www.reddit.com/r/dailyprogrammer/comments/2s7ezp/20150112_challenge_197_easy_isbn_validator/ 18:14:24 so few people using the fact that negating [10,9..1] gives [1..10]... 18:14:32 (modulo 11) 18:15:30 ok, this is as short as it gets: 18:15:32 e::Send,% !e?(r:="e",e:=StrSplit(Clipboard),i:=s:=0,d:=10):(c:=e[++i])~="\d"?(r,s+=d--*c):c="x"?(r,s+=10):!c?(!Mod(s,11),e:=""):r 18:15:42 at least, as far as I'm taking it 18:17:43 GeekDude: instead of s+=10, you can do s-- 18:17:54 uhh? 18:17:59 modulo 11 18:18:02 taking advatnage of mod 18:18:04 advantage* 18:18:07 Good idea 18:18:28 I can't really read that code (never mind write it), so I'll leave it at that :) 18:18:39 And the idea actually works, so +1 to int-e 18:19:17 int-e: http://ahk.us.to/?p=046341 18:19:20 Perhaps that'll help 18:20:18 := is assignment and = is case-insensitive equivalence check 18:20:51 I haven't updated that expansion with the latest "optimizations" yet, however 18:22:03 oh, bool values just act as if-then-else? 18:25:00 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 18:26:08 it's ternary 18:27:18 -!- JesseH has joined. 18:27:44 Does a general purpose programming language with no operators (as in, {, }, +, etc) count as esoteric? 18:28:50 GeekDude: Does your solution verify that the ISBN is exactly ten digits? 18:28:57 Oh wow, wrong channel 18:29:09 Oh wait, nope; It's the right one 18:29:14 JesseH: you're in the esoteric channel 18:29:27 `relcome JesseH 18:29:29 glguy: No, but does it really need to? 18:29:40 I saw the title and wondered what it had to do with esolangs 18:29:41 Is your goal to validate ISBNs? 18:29:44 ​JesseH: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 18:30:29 glguy: My goal is to complete the challenge in one line, a goal which I've already done to a pretty alright degree 18:30:30 glguy: I think we only meant to cover the part that can't be checked at a glance 18:30:42 glguy: i.e. the tedious modulo 11 calculation 18:31:12 Waiting on response to my question so I can share. :P 18:31:37 "Given the following constraints of the ISBN number, you should write a function that can return True if a number is a valid ISBN and False otherwise." and then it immediately lists a constraint "An ISBN is a ten digit code which identifies a book." 18:31:55 hah 18:32:04 I mean, it's a voluntary problem, so do whatever, but I can't imagine why you wouldn't actually validate it 18:32:11 "To verify an ISBN you: obtain the sum of 10 times the first digit, 9 times the second digit, 8 times the third digit... all the way till you add 1 times the last digit. If the sum leaves no remainder when divided by 11 the code is a valid ISBN." 18:32:22 glguy: know a free database of assigned ISBNs? 18:32:23 1 times the last digit 18:32:25 It does not specify that I have to make sure it's ten digits to verify it 18:32:46 It specifies that you should continue until the last digit is multiplied by 1 18:32:52 JesseH: Esoteric: Intended for or understood by only a particular group 18:33:06 besides we should all use the 13 digit ISBNs now 18:33:55 GeekDude, I've made a lang and announced here before, but I'm wondering if a certain lang would fit as esoteric if it's intended to be general purpose. 18:34:02 JesseH: also, according to the wiki: "An esoteric programming language is a computer programming language designed to experiment with weird ideas, to be hard to program in, or as a joke, rather than for practical use." 18:34:15 Oh, then this should count 18:34:30 https://github.com/jessehorne/noops 18:34:47 Does anyone here think RainMeter gets way to close to programming territory with its configuration files? 18:34:55 I "configured" it to pull xkcd comics 18:35:28 JesseH: What do you have against freenode? 18:35:42 I like to raise controversy. 18:36:04 Have several channels here, but I'm looking to support the another network. 18:37:05 what about a vague specification for noops? 18:37:59 I'm thinking about it! 18:38:13 oh, and can we limit the character set to alphanumeric? 18:38:49 Yup! Also I don't really care where noops goes, but I guess a vague spec would be in order. 18:38:53 haha. https://twitter.com/fmavituna/status/555769470321688576 18:38:54 instead of using commas and bangs, we can do "comma is chr44" 18:38:57 then use the comma variable 18:39:14 Oh yeah, that's what I should say instead of no operators, because is is technically an operator 18:39:29 int-e: Think that was intentional? 18:39:40 JesseH: alphanumeric only 18:39:50 or maybe "no symbols" 18:40:00 Let me update it 18:40:17 be aware that my suggested changes breaks your examples :P 18:40:35 Hmm 18:40:39 Where do I get a lua interpreter at 18:40:47 GeekDude: that's a good question 18:40:55 lua.org? 18:41:00 GreekDude: yup, OS? 18:41:03 Win7 18:41:05 Also, it wouldn't break my examples 18:41:25 It would add to the language. 18:41:26 sure it would, your commas and exclamation points would now be invalid 18:41:35 Oh, good point 18:41:41 I'm a liar, I must update the repo! 18:43:26 [wiki] [[Folders]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41689&oldid=41592 * Rottytooth * (+120) added External resources, link to implementation 18:43:42 ok, lua installing 18:43:58 If it's 5.3 and it doesnt work, let me know. It should be 5.2 18:44:04 It's kind of strange to me to see lua being used outside of embedding in other things 18:44:17 It's 5.1, seemingly 18:44:20 Good 18:44:25 That's what I use, for now 18:44:41 ok, lua is now accessible through the command prompt 18:44:41 Although it should work with all of them. But you never know when something like loadstring might be changed to conform 18:45:11 So, why lua? 18:45:32 I might consider reimplementing in python 18:46:01 I'm most familiar with Lua, and it's fast. A python implementation would be nice. 18:46:12 do we have math? 18:46:17 Not yet 18:46:37 I see. At least we have counting ;) 18:46:38 Although, var x is 1 + 1 should work, because of how I'm doing things 18:46:45 ... 18:46:56 I need to loop through and throw an error if any symbols are used 18:47:00 ಠ_ಠ 18:47:00 ¯|¯⌠ 18:47:00 |\| 18:47:24 GeekDude, I'm pretty much just turning noops into lua 18:47:33 I can see that 18:47:37 -!- glguy has left ("Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"). 18:47:42 so, uh 18:47:50 [wiki] [[Folders]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41690&oldid=41689 * Rottytooth * (+182) /* Instructions */ 18:47:56 what happens if someon does "x is thing;some lua code here" 18:48:01 It might do something silly like "11" though, because it doesnt know what integers are 18:49:11 congrats, You just got cloned 18:49:27 yay, push coming soon to update noops definition 18:49:47 warning, no arguments to this script? 18:50:18 myndzi! \o/ \o_ _o/ 18:50:18 | | | 18:50:18 >\ /< /'\ 18:50:36 because my favorite thing to do is pass arguments to the script I'm passing as an argument to another script I'm passing as an argument to a lua interpreter 18:50:49 GeekDude, I like to give warnings 18:51:06 Just in case some noops noob (once args are implemented) forgets to add some args 18:51:14 I think implementing that logic on your own is stupid. 18:51:20 We should get a warning! 18:51:34 [wiki] [[Folders]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41691&oldid=41690 * Rottytooth * (+157) /* Instructions */ 18:52:02 "noops noob" 18:52:17 because there's noops experts? 18:53:10 I am currently an expert because I know every single thing about it @_@ 18:53:17 Not saying much, but what can you do 18:54:12 GeekDude, pushed 18:54:25 pulled 18:55:29 so, time to write a parser 18:55:44 significant whitespace is so naughty 18:55:57 I wish I knew python better 18:56:40 I know it some, can help if you need 18:57:00 Also, considering changing discussion to the official channel 18:57:20 I'm going to write it in AutoHotkey now, python later 18:57:23 ok 18:57:51 int-e: Sigh, https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9858 18:57:55 I find it funny how much the whitespace thing distracts people. 18:58:37 int-e: It's annoying me because I'll have to support it in my interpreter 18:58:43 JesseH: I can't connect to the server? 18:58:52 Try accepting invalid ssl and all that 18:58:52 shachaf: ah. but why was it pushed to 7.12? 18:59:15 I'm not sure. A bug that lets you write unsafeCoerce looks kind of serious. 18:59:42 You should comment on the ticket. 18:59:43 you sure it's port 6697? 18:59:53 wait 18:59:55 Since I've already embarrassed myself enough. 19:00:13 [wiki] [[Folders]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41692&oldid=41691 * Rottytooth * (+243) added to top description 19:00:18 GeekDude, Use ssl and accept invalid ssl 19:00:43 -!- GeekDude has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:00:46 -!- shikhin has joined. 19:01:47 -!- GeekDude has joined. 19:11:49 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:12:19 shachaf: I did comment on it. 19:12:36 not sure whether I should adjust the milestone myself 19:12:38 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:19:48 -!- sebbu has joined. 19:20:27 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 19:20:27 -!- sebbu has joined. 19:23:32 shachaf: I feel slightly bad for not checking the bugtracker. But then again I didn't report the bug ;-) 19:24:14 -!- ^v^v has joined. 19:27:29 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 19:31:08 i see what you're getting at 19:32:39 int-e++ # taking care of 9858 19:32:57 Terribly awkward to do this on a phone. 19:33:05 glguy would know 20:01:17 -!- nys has joined. 20:02:38 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 20:04:00 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:06:42 -!- vanila has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:18:13 -!- shikhin has changed nick to sortir. 20:18:53 -!- sortir has changed nick to shikhin. 21:12:39 -!- adu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:12:42 ais523: I'm not sure if I successfully told this yet, but I think I left you a message at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:StackFlow#M:tG_implementation 21:13:05 about a bug in your M:tG implementation of the cyclic tag machine which is probably fixable 21:20:54 I wonder if it's possible to use queues instead of cycles directly in M:tG. there's two cards that can manipulate the creature with the highest power, but they don't have the right triggers, so I don't see how you could use them. 21:22:55 specifically Crackling Doom and Miming Slime 21:26:30 It might still be possible, but I don't really see a way. 21:41:24 -!- Frooxius has joined. 21:47:36 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 21:47:41 -!- ais523 has quit. 21:51:07 -!- MoALTz has joined. 21:58:00 -!- nisstyre has quit (Changing host). 21:58:01 -!- nisstyre has joined. 22:04:07 -!- zzo38 has joined. 22:11:39 b_jonas: yes, you told me about that 22:11:42 I didn't think of a fix though 22:11:46 ok 22:12:37 b_jonas: also, crackling doom totally has the right effect, but its main problem is that it's an instant 22:12:51 and it's a pain to fit those into infinite constructions 22:13:14 callforjudgement: exactly 22:17:59 You could set up a loop where turns actually pass but the players don't get to draw, and you use Panoptic Mirror to cast a spell each turn in such a way that if the player chooses not to cast the spell nothing happens so eventually has to choose to cast to avoid a loop. But it doesn't seem too easy to do something with that. 22:19:02 -!- skj3gg has joined. 22:19:24 -!- CrazyM4n has joined. 22:24:12 -!- scarf has joined. 22:24:20 -!- scarf has changed nick to ais523. 22:25:06 -!- callforjudgement has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:25:26 -!- JesseH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:32:37 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 22:35:42 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 22:39:27 -!- hjulle has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:41:41 -!- glguy has joined. 22:46:04 -!- glguy has left ("Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"). 22:54:56 -!- boily has joined. 22:59:54 -!- ais523 has quit. 23:00:03 -!- ais523 has joined. 23:06:08 -!- adu has joined. 23:08:33 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:08:58 -!- Tritonio has joined. 23:15:32 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 23:15:34 -!- ^v^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:15:59 -!- ^v^v has joined. 23:18:42 -!- Tritonio has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:21:23 -!- Tritonio_ has changed nick to Tritonio. 23:37:32 Someone spammed messaged me some Intelligent Design (of the 'humans made the human race' variety) stuff 23:38:02 Hello. i'm eRic M France. I'm there to share information concerning theories about our origins. Monotheism & Evolution's theory are based on beliefs 'cause nothing in science can establish that these théories are correct 23:38:03 However, the new one considering that we have been created by human beings of a most advanced civilisation mastering biotechnologies (intelligent Design) is enlightened with real facts. Wanna read about it ? 23:38:15 Don't know which channel they found me from 23:38:35 heh heh. 23:38:55 heh. théories :D 23:40:32 But then how can human make up more advanced human beings too? 23:40:52 ?messages-loud 23:40:52 shachaf asked 21h 41m 11s ago: Did you get my messages from before? 23:40:52 boily said 20h 48m 13s ago: maybe. 23:41:34 -!- chaosagent has joined. 23:45:06 Sgeo: That's an entertaining hypothesis at least. 23:45:15 It's all turtles all the way down? 23:55:51 -!- b_jonas has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:56:25 -!- b_jonas has joined.