< 1421625650 340609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1421625690 252021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first version had a freestanding (a:) section but i got better < 1421625739 605325 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one < 1421625750 81125 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Create their own language < 1421625766 361115 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it doesn't have to be an alt of some other language < 1421625772 705544 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just a new one < 1421625785 890659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy. you take brainfuck and change the syn... *looks around* *runs* < 1421625792 350768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: There is many possible ways < 1421625809 813967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws the saucepan after int-e and hits with a *CLANG* ===\__/ < 1421625824 214224 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I mean < 1421625836 88726 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not taking a language and changing it < 1421625849 940711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: i think a good first step is to have _one_ really novel idea to base it around. that's also a hard part. < 1421625878 47988 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Ill first need to study up < 1421625906 544966 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I can make a new one -3- < 1421625909 594587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fetches his saucepan < 1421625935 756104 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0 < 1421626023 304694 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uh.. Got really hyper and made an entire turkey dinner today < 1421626044 209412 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :And idk what to do with all this food < 1421626256 577762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom would have divided it up and stored in the freezer < 1421626265 144578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was a practical woman < 1421626272 352974 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :'was' < 1421626276 549991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, was < 1421626278 816965 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sad ;-; < 1421626284 203707 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anywayd < 1421626287 945043 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :s* < 1421626375 176338 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :x.x == [| ] ? < 1421626387 721122 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would someone send this to me < 1421626429 603682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it because they were inspired by smalltalk? < 1421626430 197133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like weird syntax < 1421626434 754085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1421626443 653399 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a zero-argument method with empty body. < 1421626472 278303 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1421626563 830369 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think to make a language it'd help to learn how it's going to be interpreted or compiled and executed. < 1421626620 515921 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or how such things are done for whatever you want to run the language you want to make. < 1421626685 977295 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> x.x == [| ] ? < 1421626687 261881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:9: parse error on input ‘|’ < 1421626749 915295 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the hint! < 1421626758 692011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [|()|] < 1421626759 581431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input ‘|’ < 1421626778 810026 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [ () ] < 1421626779 637445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[()] < 1421626784 824237 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks gurl < 1421626848 805754 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric : range(1, 1000) .filter(|&x| x % 2 == 0) .filter(|&x| x % 3 == 0) .take(5) .collect::>(); < 1421626854 891497 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1421626855 803750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> forM [0..7] $ \i -> shows (2^i) " " < 1421626857 261261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["12481361","12481362","12481368","1248136 ","12481341","12481342","12481348... < 1421626877 412479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh haha < 1421626884 746085 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the blank " " < 1421626897 923759 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason. < 1421626901 631833 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1421626910 492702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do x <- [0..7]; shows (2^i) " " < 1421626914 273798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1421626922 708271 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do x <- [0..7]; shows (2^x) " " < 1421626924 188328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 " < 1421626928 400883 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t i -- meh < 1421626929 241034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1421626929 461960 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it out put the same without " " < 1421626942 914653 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do x <- [0..7]; shows (2^x) ":" < 1421626944 222263 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1:2:4:8:16:32:64:128:" < 1421626951 877207 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I c < 1421626977 205758 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric : > forM [0..7] $ \i -> shows (2^i) < 1421626982 363240 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye it doesn't < 1421626985 337997 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1421626987 236933 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :noa < 1421627010 69912 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck I keep doing the thing you told me not to do ._. < 1421627019 138876 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421627032 606293 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, shows n returns a function that prepends the string representation of n to a string. < 1421627047 312361 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1421627047 588604 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421627105 951485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show 64 -- show n = shows n "" < 1421627107 487463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "64" < 1421627122 914059 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421627139 644802 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421627162 85323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 5 [x | x <- [1..1000], x `mod` 3 == 0] < 1421627163 482277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,6,9,12,15] < 1421627461 229402 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1421627915 348167 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my close study of a computer science student I have learned that 5% of it is writing code and 95% of it wondering why they wrote that < 1421627947 781255 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-124-108.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1421628010 870662 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1421628199 451940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1421628307 575479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm missing a planning phase (where one thinks about where to even begin coding) in those numbers. < 1421628630 92086 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1421628638 391524 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421628678 887040 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421628902 412551 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-124-108.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1421629034 749361 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421629049 933901 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421629523 204682 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421630555 754425 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unicode μ < 1421630556 795839 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘unicode’Not in scope: ‘μ’ < 1421630561 798640 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1421630565 778234 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bot was it < 1421630583 674073 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm like very forgetful < 1421630700 238395 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421630781 288479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hezzo38. can I ask you a riichiquestion? < 1421630979 889445 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: maybe I can ask you the riichiquestion? < 1421630980 450935 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dream or not, for no such amount was needed to keep a lone old man and woman took pleasure in trapping and slaying every cat which came near to their fnord for i recalled that in its experimental stage it had sputtered and purred when in action. in reply to questions hart said he though the escaping truck had headed up fnord avenue, though he knew not why. < 1421630985 828638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What question? < 1421631022 587742 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were arguing if oya should remain oya even if she's noten during South. < 1421631063 789900 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, it's not an official ruling, and many people always dislodge oya, regardless of the current hanchan. < 1421631073 520520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both ways are played. I prefer that during south round (and only during south round), oya always remains oya after an exhausive draw even if noten. < 1421631098 937127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, you can decide what variant you want to play by. < 1421631120 814865 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so it's not just a club fantasy. < 1421631143 488077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when we can slowly suck oya's points away :D < 1421631242 260011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41701&oldid=41651 5* 0399.127.206.54 5* (+4402) 10 < 1421631284 191588 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today On how its made < 1421631292 252339 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sins of mankind < 1421631384 212826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41702&oldid=41701 5* 0399.127.206.54 5* (+2) 10/* Chicken */ < 1421631528 591488 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421631723 940328 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421631810 700356 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421631961 486937 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421632264 651339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421632513 270874 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ; < 1421632513 981352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+037E GREEK QUESTION MARK] < 1421632805 471283 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ։ < 1421632806 261809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0589 ARMENIAN FULL STOP] < 1421632849 662892 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ; b = b - a ; 3 = 4 ; x = 6 ; 48 ; 3 = 1 ; 2 ; 3 in x ; x ; x < 1421632851 98876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1421632916 510646 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow. < 1421633067 879060 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there doesn't seem to be another code point whose glyph looks like an equality sign, besides the full width one: = < 1421633300 399829 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even line or box drawings? < 1421633318 36116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let _ ♛ _ = 42 in () ♛ [] < 1421633319 517791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1421633378 790355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let _ ⣿ _ = 42 in () -- what about Braille? < 1421633380 156727 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1421633417 975049 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get creative with Braille. < 1421633440 93024 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let _ ㎓ _ = 23 in () ㎓ 42 < 1421633441 638676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 23 < 1421633467 949889 :jbkcc!~textual@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421633486 330534 :jbkcc!~textual@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1421633517 747588 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ξ̄ < 1421633569 34409 :jbkcc!~textual@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421633580 279656 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :〣 < 1421633691 789922 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :😱 could also make an excellent infix operator < 1421633716 342847 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 😱 < 1421633718 290673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F631 FACE SCREAMING IN FEAR \ UTF-8: f0 9f 98 b1 UTF-16BE: d83dde31 Decimal: 😱 \ 😱 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1421633785 458615 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421633845 83655 :jbkcc!~textual@c-24-6-1-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1421633866 528952 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://imgur.com/fs6dAhF < 1421633873 102928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꓿ < 1421633873 858946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A4FF LISU PUNCTUATION FULL STOP] < 1421633921 171046 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my terminal doesn't display it either, check http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2015-01-19.txt ? < 1421634007 935539 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day, everything will be perfectly unicodified under the Great Physics Unification. < 1421634018 799219 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if that doesn't help, http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/1F631.png < 1421634084 194769 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let а = show a; a + а = printf "(%s + %s)" a а in text $ а + а + а + а < 1421634085 353465 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Text.Printf.PrintfType t1) < 1421634085 503833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘+’ < 1421634085 503974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘t1’ is ambiguous < 1421634106 659202 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let а = show a; a + а = printf "(%s + %s)" a а :: String in а + а + а + а < 1421634107 954141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "(((a + a) + a) + a)" < 1421634156 714016 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the log works. < 1421634182 105689 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode а < 1421634182 831215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0430 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER A] < 1421634257 806251 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let а = show a; a ^ а = printf "(%s + %s)" a а :: String in а ^ а ^ а ^ а < 1421634259 118166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "(((a + a) + a) + a)" < 1421634331 77984 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let а = show a; a 😱 а = printf "(%s 😱 %s)" a а :: String; infixr 9 😱 in а 😱 а 😱 а 😱 а < 1421634332 262833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "(a \128561 (a \128561 (a \128561 a)))" < 1421634337 542001 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-182-072.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1421634339 594209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let а = show (a + a); a ^ а = printf "(%s + %s)" a а :: String in а ^ а ^ а ^ а < 1421634340 844626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "(((a + a + a + a) + a + a) + a + a)" < 1421634352 992657 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-182-072.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1421634453 371839 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🀀 < 1421634454 50574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F000 MAHJONG TILE EAST WIND] < 1421634459 171684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful. < 1421634512 138960 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🐴 < 1421634513 138894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F434 HORSE FACE \ UTF-8: f0 9f 90 b4 UTF-16BE: d83ddc34 Decimal: 🐴 \ 🐴 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1421634531 514851 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have no font for that one, apparently) < 1421634657 831061 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I can see the mahjong tile! < 1421634669 446633 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm... I think I have a new feature for metasepia...) < 1421634691 777736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shuffle 123 < 1421634692 392978 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shuffle: not found < 1421634707 616143 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, which bot had the perfect shuffle? < 1421634739 649684 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` seq 3 | shuf < 1421634741 53794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 \ 1 \ 2 < 1421634889 246804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr ((.reverse).(:)) [] "🂡🂢🂣🂤🂥🂦🂧🂨🂩🂪🂫🂭🂮🂱🂲🂳🂴🂵🂶🂷🂸🂹🂺🂻🂽🂾🃁🃂🃃🃄🃅🃆🃇🃈🃉🃊🃋🃍🃎🃑🃒🃓🃔🃕🃖🃗🃘🃙🃚🃛🃝🃞" < 1421634890 421836 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\127137\127139\127141\127143\127145\127147\127150\127154\127156\127158\1271... < 1421634906 891299 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ foldr ((.reverse).(:)) [] "🂡🂢🂣🂤🂥🂦🂧🂨🂩🂪🂫🂭🂮🂱🂲🂳🂴🂵🂶🂷🂸🂹🂺🂻🂽🂾" < 1421634908 95594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 🂡🂣🂥🂧🂩🂫🂮🂲🂴🂶🂸🂺🂽🂾🂻🂹🂷🂵🂳🂱🂭🂪🂨🂦🂤🂢 < 1421634920 601723 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ foldr ((.reverse).(:)) [] "🂡🂢🂣🂤🂥🂦🂧🂨🂩🂪🂫🂭🂮🂱🂲🂳🂴🂵🂶🂷🂸🂹🂺🂻🂽🂾🃁🃂🃃🃄🃅🃆🃇🃈🃉🃊🃋🃍🃎🃑🃒🃓🃔🃕🃖🃗🃘🃙🃚🃛🃝🃞" < 1421634921 973244 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 🂡🂣🂥🂧🂩🂫🂮🂲🂴🂶🂸🂺🂽🃁🃃🃅🃇🃉🃋🃎🃒🃔🃖🃘🃚🃝🃞🃛🃙🃗🃕🃓🃑🃍🃊🃈🃆🃄🃂🂾🂻🂹🂷🂵🂳🂱🂭🂪🂨🂦🂤🂢 < 1421634947 762835 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1421635032 45790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no ⼔. < 1421635097 783889 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⼔ < 1421635098 556158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2F14 KANGXI RADICAL SPOON] < 1421635113 284256 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. obviously. < 1421635864 365732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TURBOCHARGED CHICKEN < 1421636534 341407 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421636885 313882 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :your move kaiba < 1421638504 369409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'I thought I had some blue cheese in my fridge, but to my disappointment it was just normal cheese accelerating towards me' <-- now i'm imagining some alien storage device that works by keeping perishables in a strong gravitational field < 1421638522 68737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which does this when you take things out < 1421638560 754067 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1421638572 10691 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are funny < 1421638574 632205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i think it would have to be redshifted while actually slowed down < 1421638614 285476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx yw < 1421638767 51565 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421638915 900665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fridges of Alpha Centauri, coming far too soon to a cinema near you < 1421638963 351552 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon? 4 years minimum. < 1421638979 138574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may have got a head start < 1421638991 542851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the light has just been seen < 1421639038 826093 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate the fact that all I can see is the past. < 1421639074 631290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also their cheesy "i'm blue da ba dee" broadcasts < 1421639099 865761 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:b40e:716b:e7d5:ad15 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421639120 19780 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: somewhere on the wiki there was a page that had a list of esolang interpreters for other esolanguages. Even mentioning the longest chain. Does anyone remember where that page is? < 1421639122 258949 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:b40e:716b:e7d5:ad15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421639133 26266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :esointerpreters < 1421639154 149993 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite clever. < 1421639158 638846 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1421639171 643863 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that freaking song in my head again. < 1421639188 906062 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, thx for the page. < 1421639211 240290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can replace the song with something swedish hth < 1421639227 728234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(luckily boily isn't here to tell you it's a trap) < 1421639231 255734 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me your best shot. < 1421639261 859792 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except any of those songs with nonsense lyrics. < 1421639280 623517 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hope that doesn't exclude all of them) < 1421639283 86881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hccf-8BYaDg hth < 1421639294 337957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not _technically_ nonsense < 1421639430 973786 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god... < 1421639488 393727 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea what they're sing... talking about, but it's unsettling. < 1421639495 287027 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it about? < 1421639520 65678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about a perpetuum mobile/rube goldberg device < 1421639520 305612 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, you win. Got to 2m 8s < 1421639566 351166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1421639580 360319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks an evil cackle is in order < 1421639586 853782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHAHAHA* < 1421639627 782933 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even you can't like that, right? < 1421639636 661859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um yes i do < 1421639642 431511 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I say 'even you', but I don't really know your taste) < 1421639666 135146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i am nostalgic about it, since i was a teen when it was a hit < 1421639697 236916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly even younger < 1421639707 290057 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1421639754 782484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beginning sounds a bit like some Quantum Conundrum music < 1421639756 249097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it helps if you understand the hilarious lyrics < 1421639810 409776 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a cackle oerjan < 1421639816 117803 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an evil laugh < 1421639818 391401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1421639820 605461 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a cackle < 1421639823 163770 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ILKlb1Pa8 < 1421639826 474665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE < 1421639832 692727 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :NYAHAHAHAHA < 1421639856 878157 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you ain't my brother < 1421639860 181062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NONSENSE < 1421639891 79652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i forgot to tell i'm eating pizza. it's traditional. < 1421639928 210131 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may have been eating pizza 5 nights a week >.> < 1421639966 613154 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :You lucky lil shit < 1421639975 424806 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had pizza in years < 1421640025 609438 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xHK0m5hVyY < 1421640725 180026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41703&oldid=40561 5* 03188.188.90.222 5* (+541) 10/* Main table */ Added MNNBFSL's contributions < 1421641039 642333 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1421642346 880379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you see http://play.prismata.net/?r=g5+eg-e95rs < 1421643019 538171 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to watch < 1421643040 652669 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 NICK :MDream < 1421643054 32133 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bear in mind while I might understand the basic mechanics of Prismata, I have no idea on strategy, as has been proven to you twice < 1421643249 372439 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1421643269 52749 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason I got confused as to whose turn it was. Diidn't occur to me that Eiko could actually do anything < 1421643326 76155 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nerf Cluster Bolt by making it cost 1gold? < 1421643335 670560 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+4green still) < 1421643367 876858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that it's actually that much of a problematic unit. < 1421643388 666661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're welcome to try that strategy in a game against me and see what happens. < 1421643392 671921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have no idea what I'd do.) < 1421644012 709921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: We should play some Prismata! It'll be great. < 1421644026 324873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should play more against Master Bot < 1421644034 455204 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that I can have some semblance of a clue < 1421644037 687315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No reason to play against any other bot. < 1421644053 360961 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not open to all to play? < 1421644061 858070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet. < 1421644068 592813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a demo at http://play.prismata.net/?demo < 1421644077 545967 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thanks. < 1421644089 394596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not impossible to get hold of alpha keys. < 1421644131 959589 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421644150 401447 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly muck around on hearthstone, but I've been looking for something new lately. < 1421644212 32150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prismata has some interesting ideas. < 1421644277 8209 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist [S] < 1421644289 605504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist [S]: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1421644313 762445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[S]geo < 1421644320 429449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[S]ound? < 1421644342 59959 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, [S]ound < 1421645012 716078 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1421646176 72458 :^v!~^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421646323 284137 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:b40e:716b:e7d5:ad15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421646661 152115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: prismata tip: press ` to get a button that turns on superpower mode < 1421646666 660269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your superpower is information < 1421646685 51466 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.90.222 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1421647403 734844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concludes that the longest esointerpreter chains haven't changed since last he checked < 1421647673 524027 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a war in my throat, between stomach acid and not-stomach-acid < 1421647675 912268 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1421647687 956052 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, below throat I guess < 1421647698 542327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :may the acid from your not-stomach win < 1421647713 524856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1421647743 524316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what's fiendish < 1421647752 117843 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1421647760 177049 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :flem? < 1421647783 593384 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :stomach acid shouldn't hurt in the esophogus < 1421647793 775739 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lower areas near the stomach < 1421647802 241920 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: in that case, what's heartburn? < 1421647827 475850 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's near the top where your mouth is < 1421647842 155631 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it feels bad in my chest < 1421647849 3590 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye < 1421647869 189120 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating anything weird lately? < 1421647886 473167 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza 5 nights a week? Also, GERD diagnosis + meds that don't seem to be helping < 1421647892 818665 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1421647895 368631 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza < 1421647897 151991 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lel < 1421647917 271425 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greasy foods cause stomach acid production to sky rocket < 1421647985 664516 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there isn't any feeling to pre regurgatation you probably puked a little in your sleep and swallowed it back down and now you have a peice of acidy food bit stuck in there < 1421647998 476863 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :drink water Sgeo < 1421648021 676281 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :And or Orange juice / pinnaple juice it should disolve whatevers in there < 1421648022 800299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just drink a strong base hth < 1421648028 426830 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye < 1421648057 433086 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a medical class and Coincidentaly we are talking about effects of grease on the stomach < 1421648073 520396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: i refuse to take responsibility if Sgeo is actually stupid enough to follow my advice) < 1421648082 940209 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its good in small ammounts; But a whole pizza every week < 1421648086 576976 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't good < 1421648098 398193 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eat some fruit and Then some Steak and such < 1421648116 154361 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also glucose Have some of dat < 1421648151 400034 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421648163 178958 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye you go drink teh waters < 1421648172 835435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe i should try buying apples again. i stopped buying them in the autumn because the norwegian ones got in season and sheesh how can a blood red apple be _that_ sour? < 1421648308 359340 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1421648325 184707 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh red apples are sour cuz they are in the inbetween stages < 1421648341 313409 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :A nice Redish yellow green apple is sweet and amazing < 1421648351 625640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i'm pretty sure red apples are the final stage? < 1421648357 515236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it starts rotting < 1421648361 878646 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different aplle types < 1421648366 491721 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple* < 1421648406 122778 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a banana < 1421648410 173993 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was p good < 1421648459 657458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aren't apples supposed to be sour twh < 1421648463 728632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFukyIIM1XI < 1421648472 117109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not in my opinion < 1421648494 425161 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sour apples are good to wake you up < 1421648510 458365 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I need sweet apples TO LIVE < 1421648662 419761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that version was too long even for me < 1421648705 379669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: that's sour cereal hth < 1421648826 589381 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421648837 454030 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone fell on my keyboard. Windows bluescreened. < 1421648856 195304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you go to the prelease or whatever it was? < 1421648865 543955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you pull any bumps? < 1421648889 688156 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I will swallow a base, thank < 1421648890 872529 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1421648924 645900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MY GOT I KILLED SGEO < 1421648936 730406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how the fuck < 1421648953 997625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fingers are speaking a different language than me < 1421649048 661970 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume Tums are a base) < 1421649060 692534 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, tomorrow. Unless 7-Eleven has tums or generic < 1421649102 107761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm calcium carbonate yeah that's a base < 1421649172 478834 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to speak with a pharmacist to check that it won't interact with anything < 1421649186 888099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually a salt < 1421649187 645020 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the meantime... attempt to sleep with heartburn? :/ < 1421649266 881760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both < 1421649332 27793 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently nighttime heartburn is dangerous, in a long-term sense < 1421649342 96801 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(According to WebMD) < 1421649405 212415 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on prescription meds for this, why aren't they working :( < 1421649464 875832 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421649527 203200 :Sgeo|web!44c2aebc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.174.188 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1421649671 104106 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :His phone fell on his key board and windows blue screened?! < 1421649682 484035 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't windows remove the blue screen thing < 1421649703 210886 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to go it regedit to Change it so it can blue screen again < 1421649782 52544 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue screen looks different < 1421649806 770142 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1421649812 694379 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo drink water < 1421649815 671640 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot water < 1421649832 546036 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :To disolve any acidic residue in esophogus < 1421650191 811626 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421650424 304988 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares at chat < 1421650440 322335 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits < 1421650548 140236 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been drinking cold water all day < 1421650564 606091 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure I have any utensils suitable for hot water < 1421650674 525952 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have running hot water?! < 1421650686 587785 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mails Sgeo hot water < 1421650830 780808 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have anything other than my hands I would feel comfortable drinking it from < 1421650838 633070 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For cold water, have an old plastic water bottle < 1421651031 538616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see young people these days don't bother with those old-fashioned "cups" < 1421651047 297492 :evejou!~Alice@96.26.85.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421651078 62238 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421651174 544784 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would hot water even actually work? < 1421651178 700357 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds a bit folklorish < 1421652452 144448 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1421652462 331685 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not boiling water ok sgeo < 1421652637 917637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here other than Sgeo play prismata? perhaps it's not the right channel for it < 1421652922 953808 :chaosagent_!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421652965 413466 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend does < 1421653088 431236 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt s/at least one not having cover, /at most one not having covering, / ? < 1421653302 670672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you I fixed it. (I also reworded it a bit more too in order to make it clear.) < 1421653324 323193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how does that interact with banding though? < 1421653349 502209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably clarify that too. < 1421653387 86884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it seems clear to me how it interacts with banding at least. < 1421653422 103755 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but at this point, if you have both forming bands AND damage order AND damage distribution stuff in the ability, I don't see what it gains over banding. in fact, banding seems _simpler_. < 1421653460 667931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I preferred when it didn't allow you to form bands < 1421653526 639263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you could make a similar ability that somehow works by redirecting damage to it from another creature in combat. < 1421653537 822789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure that could work well < 1421653566 24409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't allow you to form bands; it is similar but for blocking. (Bands won't do much for blocking, but here it does something. It could be changed of course, such as by redirection or whatever) < 1421653610 870798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1421653862 76614 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if an attacking or blocking creature of an opponent assigns damage to both a creature with banding and one with covering (which may be the same creature or different ones), what are the requirements for how I have to distribute the damage to my creatures? < 1421653865 917424 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1421653884 808380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to distribute all of it to one with covering. < 1421653908 699480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok. < 1421653968 956139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, because you have banding, you can choose which one with covering if you have more than one. < 1421654023 863427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should mention this in the description somewhere, because it's not clear to me. < 1421654033 56677 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421654038 959884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1421654051 983268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, why couldn't I just assing damage to the non-covering creatures, as the banding lets me ignore the damage order anyway? < 1421654070 833088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I should clarify that. < 1421654164 216640 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1421654237 571288 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do these blocking groups work like bands in that the "when becomes blocked by" and "when blocks" triggered abilities don't trigger/ < 1421654255 670956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, um, I'm not really sure how banding works either really. < 1421654260 907720 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421654279 841940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must learn. < 1421654370 810155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure either. Must I learn? < 1421654372 334314 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably. Though those triggers are mostly green and banding is mostly white, so it comes up only if I build a green-white deck. < 1421654591 905146 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1421654594 155664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :About that, is it just me, or have wotc really stopped printing creatures with simple abilities that give a p/t bonus triggered when the creature is (blocking | blocking more than one creature | becomes blocked | attacking), since about 10th ed? < 1421654626 734647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giant Badger is such a creature fro example < 1421654655 836506 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cave Tiger is another < 1421654666 129777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Deepwood Wolverine < 1421654694 66384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there is one in 10th Ed too, so I'm wrong: Elvish Berserker < 1421654705 75362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was at least one in RTR? < 1421654712 32033 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Goblin Elite Infantry < 1421654788 42943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm thinking of Fortress Cyclops < 1421654801 982778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dunno. TSP has multiple creatures with flanking, which is somewhat similar < 1421654888 858674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Charging Griffin < 1421654892 696767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :From M14 < 1421654895 70673 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Fortress Cyclops, nice < 1421654919 14097 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, nice < 1421654924 575212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1421654967 475158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Guardian of the Gateless also counts. < 1421654979 242678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's not a "simple ability". < 1421654991 430825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Netcaster Spider? < 1421654999 773188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's less simple too. < 1421655092 510689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can understand, the "when becomes blocked by" and "when blocks" triggered abilities will trigger, both for banding and for covering; I don't see why either would prevent it. < 1421655117 651268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, Guardian of the Gateless rewards you for multi-blocking, that's like Lairwatch Giant < 1421655133 826644 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rightousness doesn't count of course) < 1421655198 977036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it is possible that a card with covering might be able to block a card that it wouldn't ordinarily be able to block (as long as you have another card that can block it), just as it is possible for a card with banding to be blocked by something that wouldn't ordinarily be able to block it. < 1421655292 15357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banding is described in rule 702.21. < 1421655556 795225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are times when "Brainwash" is much better than "Oppressive Rays", "Arrest", or "Guard Duty". < 1421655602 636563 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1421655609 921483 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are Times for every Action. < 1421655611 956588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when putting it on your own card. < 1421655655 283958 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1421655750 762111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It allows you to choose not to attack even if you would otherwise be forced to attack, and it allows you to use mana abilities while declaring attackers. Although, if you are playing blue, you might prefer War Tax (assuming you happen to get that card in your card pool). < 1421655804 61163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :War Tax is good because you can use one card on both yourself and on your opponent, instead of requiring two cards. < 1421656242 802773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's an increased risk of choking on refluxed stomach contents. < 1421656243 3337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If refluxed acid is in the throat and mouth, a GERD sufferer can inhale this into their lungs. Once in the lungs, it can cause a GERD sufferer to cough and choke on this aspirated material. The acid can also cause the same damage to the lungs as it can cause when refluxed into the esophagus." < 1421656245 189041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdjflasfhjasklasdf < 1421656247 774025 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS AGAIN < 1421656525 853349 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if I have a creature with covering and you resolve Master Warcraft, can you make my creatures form covering groups for blocking? < 1421656554 768376 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scared to sleep now < 1421656723 381262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is the same as whether or not you are allowed to make the attackers to form banding groups. I guess so, but I don't know so I will try to look it up and/or ask elsewhere and/or whatever. < 1421656753 260057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe that isn't right. < 1421656820 119781 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it might not be the same, because Master Warcraft doesn't let you choose what player or planeswalker a creature attacks < 1421656824 459893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so it doesn't allow you to decide bands; the active player still does that. < 1421656859 982214 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1421656862 782230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently it allows you to make all choices involved for blocking, so in that case yes you can decide covering groups. < 1421657161 295627 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how Master Warcraft even interacts with costs for attacking or blocking < 1421657318 460681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither do I. < 1421657350 810649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should find out because Master Warcraft is both a cool card and has nice art < 1421657355 837574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also wondering about that, and other stuff about Master Warcraft. < 1421657368 486271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, costs for attacking or blocking aren't that common < 1421657750 312867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is that for attacking at least, if it is your opponent's turn, you can choose which creatures attack but then the active player (your opponent) can decide how to pay the costs (and if they include mana, which mana abilities to use and in what order); if they do it wrong it is rolled back and you have to try again; you can choose the same attackers and they have to do it properly this time; if that is not possible you have to choose differe < 1421657761 295205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For blocking it is less clear. < 1421657822 622632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think? < 1421657939 335130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know. It's possible that Master Warcraft can force me to sac islands to attack with a Leviathan if I have two islands, but I don't thikn it can force me to activate mana abilities. < 1421657992 372352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: on a different note, have you succeeded downloading the Khans set faq? because I tried again and the website just doesn't serve it. < 1421658051 713509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Didn't I send you a working link the other day? < 1421658057 892786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I misunderstood what you meant. < 1421658062 311940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried. < 1421658063 744473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't notice the link < 1421658069 369020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1421658078 883633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/release-notes-2014-09-18 < 1421658090 795113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The set faq is now called the release notes, you said. < 1421658108 365025 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for Fate, it's certaonly called release notes < 1421658128 655743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this thing not a set faq? < 1421658155 230533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that seems to be the correct link, and I think it's the same, but it's hard to be sure < 1421658188 598573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hope there isn't a separate release notes and set faq < 1421658211 882490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except maybe for un-sets) < 1421658227 23142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://archive.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/faq/jou is also called "release notes" < 1421659056 162647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does () in Haskell correspond to the Sierpiński space? < 1421659129 640622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is but I can try to look in Wikipedia < 1421659173 722643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know the answer. < 1421659212 34982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if you can only decide what a card blocks and absolutely nothing else, then you cannot decide covering groups either. < 1421659247 367699 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FSF wants... your old car http://www.fsf.org/associate/car < 1421659293 243495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can't you also decide on which side of the Raging River you're trying to block? < 1421659318 677207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't know? Ask that too on other IRC < 1421659367 282983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's a topological space with two points 0 and 1 where only {1} is open. < 1421659405 270233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I can see that! It doesn't tell me if () in Haskell is correspond to the Sierpiski space. < 1421659461 762744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, if I give you a value x :: (), you can observe that x is () but you can't observe that x is _|_ < 1421659478 129626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's the same way for 1 and 0 < 1421659509 482484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes I can understand you, but I don't know a lot about topological spaces. < 1421659548 640417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking at http://www.paultaylor.eu/ASD/sobsc.pdf < 1421659687 356935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a finite partial order is also a topological space, and i think the CPO of () gives that topological space < 1421659759 728162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why finite? < 1421659774 608502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and why partial rather than pre? are you talking about the alexandrov topology or something else?) < 1421659777 843135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1421659804 322943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the other way around, a finite topological space is a partial (pre-)order < 1421659836 809051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, sure < 1421659866 269186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only a partial order if all the points are topologically distinguishable < 1421659872 178132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1421659880 566954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. T0 separation axiom < 1421659899 952106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's T1 it's fully discrete < 1421659917 228711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1421659921 790800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot of wiggle room :'( < 1421659938 737727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do order-theory/topology concepts translate back and forth? < 1421659991 211519 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1421659993 575607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think monotonicity may be the same as continuity < 1421659993 976178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. inf/sup, galois connection, total order < 1421660006 607823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the idea of this isomorphism < 1421660034 989918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monotonic function between preorders is a continuous function between their alexandrov spaces < 1421660063 724073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and vice versa if your space is alexandrov) < 1421660071 856552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do all these other concepts translate? < 1421660101 816533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that in a sense most of topology isn't interesting in the finite cases < 1421660103 239778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is crazy < 1421660115 498621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly things like compactness are only interesting in the infinite case < 1421660142 66093 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1421660227 857165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :compactness is a kind of co-discreteness (see harmonic analysis) < 1421660243 471833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're both compact and discrete, you're finite < 1421660247 635290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i read in order to understand that statement twh < 1421660259 182201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dual group theory < 1421660285 643828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dual group of the integers is the unit circle < 1421660295 106815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first discrete, the second compact < 1421660303 918917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that compactness is co-overtness hth < 1421660308 808464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1421660324 258860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a bad use of "hth" < 1421660358 966512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know about overtness < 1421660379 222440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/overt%20space < 1421660393 7922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you're talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontryagin_duality ? < 1421660402 672797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds familiar < 1421660436 378925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let's set up a combo to infinite mindslave this channel and take it over < 1421660438 232494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to investigate < 1421660470 604994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you topologically describe properties like "total order" and "supremum" < 1421660474 399151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll grab my Pemmin's Aura < 1421660483 576844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess supremum would only be only unique in a T0 space < 1421660555 861163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :total order means that given any two points, one is in the closure of the other? < 1421660629 969112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1421660664 429237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you run into trouble soon enough because you don't have a notion of duality in topology in general? < 1421660721 376827 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egspzrjylvawvbxk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1421660793 407814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1421661097 152765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about translating things the other way < 1421661119 306294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you run into trouble because finite topologies are usually boring < 1421661122 376022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and non-T1 < 1421661135 632956 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1421661136 425103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1421661249 656514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway you have the thing where an inhabitant of (X -> S) corresponds to an open subset of X, right? < 1421661276 737791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a corresponding thing in haskell with (X -> ())? < 1421661296 966473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1421661321 87807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would be recursive subset, wouldn't it < 1421661330 820674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1421661338 948083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursively enumerable < 1421661347 35814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursively enumerable, sure < 1421661358 487776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm except that might not be right if X isn't enumerable to start with < 1421661462 498515 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1421661620 571185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite x = length x `seq` ()? < 1421661751 644311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1421661834 738297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's right < 1421661866 932521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it makes sense that monotonic functions : X -> {0,1} would correspond to upper sets in X < 1421662224 111529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, how many functions :: Bool -> () are there? < 1421662284 452918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-strict: 3; strict: 3^2 = 9; total: 12 < 1421662384 882234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, i fear we may be succeeding in delaying GHC 7.10 http://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9858#comment:14 < 1421662472 822851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny that the bug has been around for 6 weeks and no one noticed < 1421662568 203919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :| A_|_ -> B_|_ | = | B_|_ | + (| B_|_ | ^ |A|), I guess. < 1421662579 262377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A and B being flat/discrete/whatever) < 1421662624 586990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric := 1 + |B| + (1 + |B|)^|A| < 1421662644 977562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I was thinking Bool -> Bool < 1421662667 735470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 6. non-strict: 2; strict: 2^2 = 4 < 1421662715 270009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there only one non-strict one? < 1421662832 949037 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it's a serious type system bug, now that SPJ is aware of it he will want to see it fixed (probably by himself but since typeable is involved it may split up into several subtasks) :) < 1421662970 260509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only count 5 functions :: Bool -> () < 1421662992 848437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-strict: f _ = undefined; f _ = ()... oh, that first one is strict. < 1421663006 199789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, | A_|_ -> B_|_ | = |B| + (1 + |B|)^|A| < 1421663106 165509 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, A_|_ is A_\bot... hard to read. < 1421663115 480262 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps ^\bot < 1421663457 744621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry :p < 1421663505 75205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so what's the topology for Bool < 1421663523 813546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should probably go to sleep < 1421663707 669095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} {⊥,F,T} {F} {T} {F,T}, i suppose < 1421663768 530122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to sleep < 1421664814 862948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, now try some manifest+cytoshape questions < 1421664827 487802 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1421664831 921630 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you do case c of { };? < 1421664857 818040 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. < 1421664861 38840 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :case c of {} works though < 1421665416 753027 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/xMESZWvA < 1421665540 356417 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which neatly compiles to http://codepad.org/soIMKlDB < 1421665851 631300 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The language itself dosen't actually specify what operators do) < 1421665868 889797 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ is just translated to a call to "bOp"++ ord op < 1421665989 612476 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421666393 412962 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421666612 715942 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421667621 284743 :evejou!~Alice@96.26.85.37 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1421668253 205008 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1421668329 524575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0605779 fancy < 1421668380 778371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn that paper is long < 1421668770 113307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conway had even pored over [Tarski's proof] at one time or another without achieving enlightenment." < 1421669116 118440 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1421670278 109705 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TUBULAR CHICKEN < 1421672029 146811 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-124-108.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1421672893 337661 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1421673082 957199 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421673193 201806 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1421673625 118096 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421673643 983797 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421673901 879659 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1421675030 86444 :MDream!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 NICK :MDude < 1421675258 585159 :helix__!557ec73a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.126.199.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421676295 968785 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1421677096 21917 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421677745 429266 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1421678691 53251 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421678714 625261 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1421679229 266511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome helix__ < 1421679249 572626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06helix__: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1421679959 696918 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^200 doesn't exist? < 1421679961 302331 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn :( < 1421679993 503853 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it deos < 1421680044 46477 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` python -c 'print 2^200' < 1421680045 341783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :202 < 1421680055 763340 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks python... < 1421680112 70429 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, owhats that ccompiler? < 1421680126 264870 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^200 < 1421680127 698264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1606938044258990275541962092341162602522202993782792835301376 < 1421680151 5252 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1421680157 99100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that big number, did haskell get corrupted < 1421680188 273291 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it embraces big integers, to better represent its net worth < 1421680235 22421 :helix__!557ec73a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.126.199.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone < 1421680242 861049 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1421680243 975127 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1421680359 665665 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lie, it's datatypes are free < 1421680388 729321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since">< < 1421680388 969863 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "ceins" < 1421680395 498245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ |.'since' < 1421680405 197545 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :initially this was amusing but at this point it's terminal < 1421680421 738133 :helix__!557ec73a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.126.199.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing my final paper about esoteric programming languages so I'm looking for different sources of information < 1421680436 344259 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :helix__, have you seen the esowiki < 1421680444 117298 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421680457 469791 :helix__!557ec73a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.126.199.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean esolangs.com? < 1421680460 988556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* priority: high => highest < 1421680474 142151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS NO REASON FOR PANIC < 1421680480 6486 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1421680480 327199 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of corruption in haskell < 1421680491 640275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ |.'since' < 1421680492 299019 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ecnis < 1421680494 142540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you're following the trac too? < 1421680496 54020 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we need to escalate the bug further!!!!!!1 < 1421680502 377465 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 'since'>< < 1421680502 528049 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 10): < 1421680502 678467 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected end of input < 1421680507 960514 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since">< < 1421680508 111130 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "ceins" < 1421680513 731765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, how do I reverse a string? < 1421680555 825349 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: insert a right-to-left mark? < 1421680582 21219 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "123"r < 1421680582 171619 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 7): < 1421680582 322181 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected end of input < 1421680594 401503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helix__: pretty sure it's esolangs.org < 1421680631 146681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm parked domain < 1421680667 48691 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "reverse"<- < 1421680667 209183 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "esrever" < 1421680671 718466 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"<- < 1421680671 869078 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "ecnis" < 1421680675 427387 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1421680679 298924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- < 1421680680 137394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1421680693 609426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"<-<-<- < 1421680693 809854 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "ecnis" < 1421680710 557334 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I made up some simple stack based programming language and writing a compiler from that language to haskell < 1421680716 193931 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat! < 1421680736 931564 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the compiler is written in haskell, but I plan to rewrite the compiler in the stack based programming language itself so I have a self-hosting compiler) < 1421680830 913164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ /:'since' < 1421680831 681125 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 3 4 1 2 0 < 1421680833 173510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ /:~'since' < 1421680834 11863 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ceins < 1421680895 254076 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421681218 676054 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"<-{"since"jFi}m[ < 1421681218 826755 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {4 3 2 1 0} < 1421681225 860233 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"<>{"since"jFi}m[ < 1421681226 12794 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {0 2 1 4 3} < 1421681231 894475 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"><{"since"jFi}m[ < 1421681232 45012 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {3 4 1 2 0} < 1421681243 20384 :helix__!557ec73a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.126.199.58 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1421681256 654659 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ /:/:'since' < 1421681257 396115 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 4 2 3 0 1 < 1421681265 808885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"><{"since"Fi}m[ < 1421681265 959268 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1421681270 967875 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"><{"since"qjFi}m[ < 1421681271 128846 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1421681273 988261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"><{"since"QjFi}m[ < 1421681274 138905 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1421681276 543766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"><{"since"JjFi}m[ < 1421681276 694720 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1421681282 424149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pressing random buttons < 1421681284 614921 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just j < 1421681287 116778 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"><{"since"jFi}m[ < 1421681287 267440 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {3 4 1 2 0} < 1421681299 140995 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I want to swap < 1421681304 8894 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1421681305 300883 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the order? < 1421681306 669714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's in a map < 1421681309 633065 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"<>{"since"jFi}m[ < 1421681309 783554 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {0 2 1 4 3} < 1421681310 619884 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hwy it doesn't work < 1421681314 63383 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1421681314 214039 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :( < 1421681334 161253 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"JPp<>{"since"jFi}m[ < 1421681334 350149 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {0 2 1 4 3} < 1421681340 71373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"{"since"<>Fi}m[ < 1421681340 221705 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1421681342 100326 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"JPp<>{pPjFi}m[ < 1421681342 251062 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {0 2 1 4 3} < 1421681344 851926 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw < 1421681345 142843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "since"{"since"<>jFi}m[ < 1421681345 293267 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {0 2 1 4 3} < 1421681510 274471 :evejou1!~Alice@wsip-98-191-169-90.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421681527 958284 :evejou1!~Alice@wsip-98-191-169-90.dc.dc.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1421681560 652386 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcdefgh"JPp<>{pPjFi}m[ < 1421681560 812767 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0} < 1421681565 193002 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcdefgh"JPp<>{pPjFi}m[BS < 1421681565 348695 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 < 1421681622 430091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %s="cB5JAfdsibE3GHlarM794O0YKogVm/k"%s?<> < 1421681622 581048 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "sromlkigfdcbaYVOMKJHGEBA975430/" < 1421681649 739985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %s="cB5JAfdsibE3GHlarM794O0YKogVm/k"%s?><{%s?jFi}m[ < 1421681649 930026 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {29 22 11 20 2 18 19 4 1 10 12 13 3 24 17 21 27 23 15 9 0 6 5 26 8 30 14 28 25 16 7} < 1421681651 428763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well look at that, a GG comic < 1421681664 646763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right back off track, where we left < 1421681679 525294 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :off. < 1421681679 822548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ /:s=.'cB5JAfdsibE3GHlarM794O0YKogVm/k' < 1421681680 465358 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 29 22 11 20 2 18 19 4 1 10 12 13 3 24 17 21 27 23 15 9 0 6 5 26 8 30 14 28 25 16 7 < 1421681692 883968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %s="cB5JAfdsibE3GHlarM794O0YKogVm/k"%s?{%s?> for loading and s for storing < 1421682757 167550 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e s3 and g3 or s0 and g0 < 1421682763 50851 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9s0g0 < 1421682763 201595 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 9 < 1421682764 479363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "cB5JAfdsibE3GHlarM794O0YKogVm/k"s0g0{g0?>< j Fi 'c BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'B BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi '5 BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'J BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'A BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'f BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'd BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 's BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'i BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'b BlsqGet "0" >< j Fi 'E Bl < 1421682832 678216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... no < 1421682848 668422 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) only works for a single "Token" < 1421682852 359397 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1421682858 637476 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :){9} is the same thing as { {9} }m[ < 1421682875 117564 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which results in {9} being inserted between two elements) < 1421682880 982620 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10ro)9 < 1421682881 133547 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {9 1 9 2 9 3 9 4 9 5 9 6 9 7 9 8 9 9 9 10} < 1421684029 283725 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421684083 8832 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm not going to touch Burlesque ever again < 1421684113 557783 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421684190 843583 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1421684207 826405 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: how often has this resolution failed to work out so far? < 1421684262 895955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1421684273 484158 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1421684309 568891 :shikhin!~shikhin@120.57.231.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421684325 481581 :shikhin!~shikhin@120.57.231.229 QUIT :Changing host < 1421684325 631851 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421684375 216272 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what resolution? < 1421684391 759252 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the one to not touch Burlesque ever again < 1421684413 701082 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never I guess < 1421684429 820539 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No but seriously < 1421684430 533358 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, must be a new thing then *ducks* < 1421684445 671109 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chance of me committing suicide is WAY higher than me touching Burlesque ever again < 1421684459 759971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: never as in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0081.html < 1421684470 488391 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning on creating a successor for Burlesque once < 1421684475 829613 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1421684482 839154 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can go with "once". < 1421684517 357715 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sitting crying and anxious at my work desk right now anyway < 1421684587 930858 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421684590 344418 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1421684627 521496 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? what's the problem? < 1421684724 173104 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That something is seriously broken. < 1421684729 568741 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with me. < 1421684778 377602 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like to talk about it in PM? < 1421685023 636399 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, at any rate, I think everyone appreciatse having you here and I hope you feel better < 1421685051 399903 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421685208 405863 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421685704 114152 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1421685747 152702 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com" < 1421686042 900399 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1421686058 85638 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'day all < 1421686063 779726 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1421686073 151810 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitchs suggested here to me :-) < 1421686182 122517 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE Jander < 1421686184 760407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaNdEr: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1421686185 481672 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1421686251 369138 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitchs suggested that my efforts to build a Lego EV3 based Brainf*ck interpreter may go down well here :-) < 1421686273 532952 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're building it with hardware? < 1421686277 199863 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1421686289 744154 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lke this yes < 1421686301 552391 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is on coloured paper tape and the I/O is done thro' an 8 bit register that is physical < 1421686316 173593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jander: how about the data tape? < 1421686318 266270 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interpreter will be on the EV3 itself however. < 1421686357 38772 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 colours on the paper tape - red/green/black/white/yellow/brown/blue/grey = < > - + , . [ ] < 1421686397 237830 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :To end the program there will need to be an extraneous ] however. < 1421686417 340253 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is kinda met if the tape runs out as it's grey blocks behind the tape :-) < 1421686434 285492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :common implementer's trick < 1421686455 564061 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jander: why paper instead of colored lego bricks? is it easier to print? < 1421686462 586567 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read file, add ] at end, parse a ]-terminated block, and run) < 1421686463 417600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jander: and where do you store the data tape? < 1421686542 364755 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have enough different coloured bricks :-) And I fancied building a paper tape reader. < 1421686573 674402 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are URLs okay in here ? I have a pic on G+ page. < 1421686589 455672 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1421686595 717257 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The memory is all internal, 256 bytes of 8 bit unsigned < 1421686614 143804 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1421686621 345975 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1421686645 34573 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/photos/113373535180413523278/albums/6105388692419944513?authkey=CL2uopH9jZOkEQ < 1421686669 775690 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the tape/ < 1421686670 656153 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1421686693 611812 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strips of A4 paper cut to the right size. I have no tape spools in this build. < 1421686703 924599 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't work out a clean/neat way of doing it. < 1421686704 575813 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really cool :D < 1421686735 935575 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The I/O bits are on top - the grey toggles. They are all set to 0 in the pic. Bit 7 bottom left, bit 0 top right. < 1421686765 561057 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The arm on the tracks/rack is used to both sense the state for input and to push/pull them for output. < 1421686800 137799 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've still to implement [ and ], but that should be done tonight. < 1421686927 428722 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Videos of the I/O in operation: < 1421686930 11901 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/photos/113373535180413523278/albums/6103953155744183393?authkey=CL2wgq-Vq6TkhwE < 1421687056 957666 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not BF running it btw - that was EV3 code doing the multiplication. < 1421687467 689346 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421687522 763220 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1421687526 262512 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1421687772 58570 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1421687932 984357 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1421687998 939608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421688039 892014 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm growing to hate Codewars. < 1421688549 881631 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right - I'll pop back tomorrow - hopefully with a working model if I get time this evening. < 1421688561 986061 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PART #esoteric :"Ex-Chat" < 1421688686 36959 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that, a web 2.0 version of sphere online judge? < 1421688840 98259 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's in vaguely similar veins to that I suppose, to to HackerRank. < 1421688917 940046 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes though, the test cases and descriptions feel like working an actual job: none of them seem to agree... < 1421689114 604618 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421689132 318143 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get specs that say one thing, tests that say another, and of course, there's two tiers of tests, the latter of which you can't see and often include requirements not mentioned in the basic tests or the description at all. < 1421689208 500088 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you said, that sounds very realistic < 1421689321 489563 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.72.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421689404 803591 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1421689418 521720 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-124-108.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1421689433 834128 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1421689556 361776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: how does this do output? < 1421689564 359983 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1421689565 720530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1421689573 956326 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jander: how does this do the output? < 1421689575 617583 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It doesn't; it handles things with tests instead. < 1421689581 144099 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry. < 1421690027 431180 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, Jander left, but for output the arm switches any bits that need to be switched and then a sound clip of "Okay" is played, then you need to press a button for the machine to continue processing (i think) < 1421690035 3014 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he explained it to me through PMs < 1421690042 970433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitchs: I See < 1421690462 158040 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a black diviner, nice < 1421691136 156334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(-1,0) < 1421691137 47410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1.5707963267949 < 1421691147 432076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(-1,-1e-9999) < 1421691147 966532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1.5707963267949 < 1421691157 226675 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(-1,1e-9999) < 1421691157 871564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1.5707963267949 < 1421691166 671218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, args swapped < 1421691172 82456 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421691174 966321 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint 1e-9999==0 < 1421691175 116839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(1e-9999,-1) < 1421691175 824232 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.14159265358979 < 1421691175 974622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1421691179 384435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(-1e-9999,-1) < 1421691179 951841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-3.14159265358979 < 1421691182 507060 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1421691203 486458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(-0.0,-1) # does that work? < 1421691204 105611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-3.14159265358979 < 1421691251 10458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2(-0,-1) < 1421691251 574943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.14159265358979 < 1421691260 523492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: atan2 has a branch cut there, so it uses the sign of the zero to decide which branch it falls in < 1421691265 58199 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421691289 31761 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421691327 505918 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "does that work" was meant in regard to perl's conformance to IEEE 754 < 1421691339 379200 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1421691341 31040 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1421691354 368336 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421691391 263410 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't know if these transcendent functions are covered by IEEE 745, but this is certainly in its spirit and it's the right answer < 1421691403 130803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, is -0.0 actually the negative zero) < 1421691421 790225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it is because the - isn't part of the literal but a separate operator, just like in C < 1421691436 75712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: underlying was the question why you'd express +0 as 1e-9999 and -0 as -1e-9999. < 1421691454 388888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e use O Deparse::; $_x=-0.0 < 1421691455 790753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-e syntax OK \ $_x = -.0; < 1421691470 60218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e use O Deparse:: -p; $_x=-0.0 < 1421691470 788038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near "Deparse:: -p" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1421691478 983169 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e use O Deparse=> -p; $_x=-0.0 < 1421691479 908571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-e syntax OK \ $_x = -.0; < 1421691500 319135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's probably constant-folded before it gets to Deparse anyway < 1421691546 141629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show (-0.0) -- curious < 1421691547 615754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "-0.0" < 1421691550 3741 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1421691794 68884 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421691815 469596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1421692224 478078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2("-0.0",-1) < 1421692225 101254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-3.14159265358979 < 1421692226 361035 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2("-1e-9999",-1) < 1421692227 280748 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-3.14159265358979 < 1421692231 510746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint atan2("-0",-1) < 1421692232 239528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-3.14159265358979 < 1421692437 695412 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no good reason really. I'm just used to having to write infinity as 1e9999 in perl because perl is stupid and doesn't accept 1.0/0.0 on perl-builtin floats < 1421692493 610758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a "use float;" pragma to use ieee float arithmetic on builtin numbers, similar to "use integer;", so you don't have to use blessed number objects just to do sane arithmetic < 1421692567 711679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint (1.0/0.0) < 1421692568 321363 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal division by zero at -e line 1. < 1421692783 557710 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.72.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421693006 239989 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421693136 92642 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1421693433 294492 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1421694045 250037 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421694101 45818 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The base (or salt?) I just chewed and swallowed succeeded in making my stomach feel weird, but not in making my esophagus feel better < 1421694698 647551 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421694759 259526 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421694775 315257 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1421695991 831955 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1421696377 608958 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1421696390 980966 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1421696473 581143 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421696554 432224 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421696607 99276 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1421696621 200304 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1421696634 491777 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421696761 248985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1421696846 174385 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421697359 897288 :S1!~S1@p4FF92A08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1421697695 981617 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1421698444 392758 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:901e:2d58:22b2:8784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421698609 73033 :^v!~^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1421698748 197672 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421698922 254037 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :HoraceKnightley < 1421698927 362500 :HoraceKnightley!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1421699062 919116 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421699422 935944 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421699579 151622 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1421699968 836758 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1421700333 310902 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1421700382 628355 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1421700423 611896 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most samesteads of every firststuff are unabiding. < 1421700513 260699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the uh < 1421700514 564997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :germanic thing < 1421700564 131659 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingdingding! "Uncleftish Beholding" < 1421700692 299986 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:901e:2d58:22b2:8784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421700798 176316 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:901e:2d58:22b2:8784 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421700933 445271 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is a language that enforces hungarian notation < 1421701085 311730 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1421701248 667666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to learn how to actually read scientific studies < 1421701285 178089 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some pro-biotic company has apparently earned the favor of the LessWrong community. They're going to release a placebo-controlled study at the end of the month, I want to attempt to read it for myself to determine if it's garbage or not < 1421701389 144725 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't actually know what "pro-biotic" means. < 1421701416 616002 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holdon while i consult the great web of the knowings < 1421701437 771547 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1421701570 779379 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro biotics sounds like something that could work... but probably with side effects < 1421701704 375570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amateur biotics < 1421702065 159723 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd.com/1471/ < 1421702169 668707 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421702176 494767 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.72.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421702345 571497 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSleep < 1421702535 387590 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1421702828 234039 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Huh. < 1421702852 368688 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://hpmor.com/notes/progress-15-01-01/ < 1421702873 346528 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"General Biotics is a recent startup that is producing a pill-based probiotic that may help to replenish gut flora aka the intestinal microbiome. They intend to donate 10% of profits to effective charities. If you are currently unhappy with your digestive system, this is a quick way to test whether your gut microbes might be the cause. (If you don’t have a current pain point but are interested in trying general improvements, you might < 1421702873 504516 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to wait for v2.)" < 1421703177 68846 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judging by the stream of information on it, I suspect that probiotics are 5% useful and 95% bullshit. < 1421703183 51584 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be exaggerating their utility. < 1421703242 415406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's necessarily a good sign that GB was supposed to release a study on the 15th, but delayed it < 1421703309 693609 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would imagine it's quite helpful for a small portion of the population, and has a lot of associated bullshit < 1421703393 817771 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421703472 885183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any tests that could be done on a person to determine whether or not it would be helpful? < 1421703475 697980 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The first commercially sold dairy-based probiotic was Yakult," -clicks on link-> "Official claims state that the name is derived from jaĥurto (with a circumflex over the h), an Esperanto word for "yogurt"." < 1421703479 718837 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421703543 122125 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1421703693 884343 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Yakult is an English rendering of a Japanese rendering of an Esperanto word < 1421703816 414583 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yacolt is also a town in Washington, whose name allegedly means haunted place in the language of one of the local tribes. < 1421703880 418230 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes MealSquares aren't as wooish... although I don't think I would actually go ahead and replace all food with them < 1421704069 429308 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :scientifically speaking my understanding is that save for certain very particular situations (such as having recently been subject to prolonged antibiotic treatments), probiotics are pretty much crap, and unlikely to make the slightest difference whatsoever. < 1421704156 316541 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This mealsquares thing looks good, although i don't see the need to put the orange juice in the square itself. Why not an oatmeal cookie-like thing with a glass of orange juice based drink on the side < 1421704233 935190 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ate a lot of unpasteurized yogurt when I last had need (spent a month on antibiotic treatments for pleuresy) < 1421704334 816576 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421704380 218144 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: was on antibiotics recently :/ < 1421704382 979276 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Months ago) < 1421704400 288651 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Months ago", biologically, is not recently. < 1421704409 102960 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find it took about a year or two for it to finally normalize. < 1421704420 802247 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too was on antibiotics recently < 1421704430 461516 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I meant "ended regimin last week" < 1421704471 629100 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: My initial impression is that MealSquares aren't *obvious* woo at least. < 1421704497 239828 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still occasionally get horrifying gut cramps and other IBS fun, but it's got better over time < 1421704499 646942 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are probably loads less terrible than Soylent. < 1421704506 843398 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most woonatic thing about MealSquares is that they clearly market to nutters. < 1421704518 60936 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fact that they MARKET to nutters doesn't mean that they're not themselves sound. < 1421704524 59141 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1421704539 609609 :oren!~oren@user3-211-26.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421704540 743710 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That being said, humans are the most picky of all animals when it comes to food, so MealSquares seems doomed to failure. < 1421704580 557448 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Ugh, yeah, had levofloxacin like a year ago and my bowels aren't normal yet. < 1421704602 476536 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking as a former cook, all these weird soylent-like products horrify me. :P < 1421704613 439381 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nathanedwardwilliams.com/fun/monkeydiet.htm < 1421704634 370670 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for those playing along at home, levofloxacin is one of those "hard core" antibiotics that actually has a demonstrable, absurd effect on intestinal flora) < 1421704640 469453 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1421704649 211543 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: :P < 1421704701 56145 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: MealSquares sounds appealing in concept to me < 1421704708 111563 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this make me a nutter for hating food? < 1421704724 861302 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: MealSquares appears to at least resemble food though, so there's at least that. < 1421704739 301011 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The FAQ is full of "this food contains no ingredients that nutters find offensive because they're stupid" < 1421704744 218418 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I am quite certain it is possible to distill enough basic nutrients down into that form, but like ... why? At least get a good meal bar or something. < 1421704755 844629 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ That < 1421704763 617402 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I remember the opposite < 1421704784 79237 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1421704786 262241 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: Some people consider eating and food decisions a chore. < 1421704807 305511 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, this: http://www.mealpack.com/ < 1421704810 660583 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No gluten, no wheat, "99% lactose free" whatever that means (so, what, it's 1% pure lactose? That's a lot). < 1421704814 119289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real people do have peanut allergies and celiac... although they say they're not necessarily suitable < 1421704827 712262 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is lactose intolerant, but they say they put lactaid in it < 1421704832 370761 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: eating is fun, deciding and cooking is the chore < 1421704843 185214 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real people have celiac, but 99% of people who seek out gluten-free food are dipshits. < 1421704849 882155 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ This. < 1421704853 858922 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other 1% have celiac) < 1421704881 606590 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bear Valley bars are great, very thorough nutrition content, literally makes you feel like you've eaten a full-course meal, but still tastes something like actual food. < 1421704891 662224 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer curry. < 1421704898 461658 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm. curry. < 1421704908 229214 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a korma on Wed. < 1421704918 66025 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"health benefits of non-gmo soy"? < 1421704971 112021 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lulz at one thing here < 1421704995 977953 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, it's still hippie shit, of course. But it's pretty good despite. < 1421705017 692610 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MealSquares are being made of "whole foods". That is to say, they are trying really hard to avoid anything that's not derived from a plant or animal. < 1421705018 415262 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's also a tiny company who've been around for years; I don't they ever used GMO anything to begin with) < 1421705038 931927 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And strongly justifying anything they do use. < 1421705059 170130 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: better than not using something that should be used, I guess < 1421705074 415406 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1421705080 863766 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially love how they're justifying the use of iodized salt. < 1421705082 851897 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, salt is bad, MSG is fine. < 1421705099 913733 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hah. < 1421705141 996700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I understand adding salt if this is the exclusively-eaten food. Is it as necessary if it isn't? < 1421705143 820776 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though of course, MSG contrary to woo beliefs is actually utterly mundane. < 1421705157 986526 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Probably depends on other dietary factors. < 1421705180 835497 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people probably get too *much* salt. < 1421705184 323805 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Vitamin C powder: MealSquares include over 100% of the vitamin C RDA without any added supplementation. However, vitamin C is the most chemically fragile vitamin, being degraded by exposure to heat, light, or basic mediums. To be on the safe side, we've added a little extra. We hope you’ll agree that a little extra vitamin C is a good thing." < 1421705191 752951 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. MSG is perhaps the single most overhyped ingredient of all. XD < 1421705196 460083 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Vitamin C overdose possible? < 1421705198 327792 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, if you're eating this exclusively you *better* have salt in it. < 1421705199 866003 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know A is possible < 1421705217 203708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people who take astronomical doses of vitamin C < 1421705220 751226 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody 50 years of ragging on poor MSG, even though it's been in 90% of processed food for at least as long as it's been identified. < 1421705221 635953 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So.. does this mean this might not be healthy if I eat it as a snack + other food as normal? < 1421705236 275751 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vitamin C overdose is possible but hard. < 1421705247 731458 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Massive bombs of Vit-C basically does nothing. You just wee out the excess. < 1421705273 738123 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The major risk of too much vitamin C is indigestion and iron overdosing. < 1421705274 656376 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those Emergen-C tablets are almost literally pissing money down the toilet. ;) < 1421705296 194390 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vitamin C is a bit rough on the stomach, especially on an empty stomach, and vitamin C increases iron absorption) < 1421705339 595207 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. If you have a little too much vitamin C it'll do basically nothing. < 1421705361 765039 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: And it's just the salt of two nutrients. < 1421705381 159406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would buy these, but I need a fridge < 1421705412 826895 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sodium + glutamic acid. Sodium is, of course, utterly essential, and glutamic acid is just a non-essential amino acid that you digest perfectly fine.) < 1421705422 942228 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yup. You more or less make accidental MSG every time you cook soy sauce, meat, or mushrooms. < 1421705466 240483 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite thing is that MSG is like the ultimate of 'processed food ingredient' scary, but in every health store you'll find bottles of Bragg's Liquid Aminos, which is essentially just a big bottle of the stuff in tasty brown liquid form. < 1421705558 278732 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, cause an amino acid concentrate from soybeans is *definitely* something worth doing. < 1421705574 409662 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than just, y'know, soy sauce. < 1421705622 291477 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woonder if these taste good < 1421705665 995923 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note for what it's worth that they're not crowing about the taste. :) < 1421705686 344547 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:901e:2d58:22b2:8784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421705698 616626 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They kind of are "We really surprised ourselves when our prototypes turned out tasty; this was the point that we knew we had to share it with others" < 1421705703 937437 :oren!~oren@65.94.96.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421705766 811769 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like marketing speak for "surprisingly almost edible" < 1421705799 633375 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should try real food, it's pretty great < 1421705819 672427 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza is real food, right? < 1421705832 52725 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I eat steak sometimes < 1421705865 743455 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are both real foods and part of real diets. < 1421705898 193456 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:901e:2d58:22b2:8784 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421706171 707470 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he can order groceries online < 1421706177 946388 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably in small quantities < 1421706228 490055 :oren!~oren@65.94.96.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can in Toronto with Grocery Gateway but it sucks < 1421706265 290110 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will confess that grocery shopping is not a favorite. < 1421706287 318428 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suffer from some kind of weird decision anxiety. < 1421706287 471559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :online grocery shopping is very much a thing, yes < 1421706336 694344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as far as I can tell, these things seem to have minimum orders < 1421706338 372520 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sometimes a trip is easy as pie and I'm home in a flash, and sometimes I find myself wandering a store for hours while I spiral into guilt and shame and internal weeping. < 1421706344 332449 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This site seems to be $30 minimum < 1421706369 194929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to buy that you can't pad out with other stuff you'll end up needing anyway to make $30... < 1421706369 645068 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had a fridge, I might just buy a bunch of food or something < 1421706379 559394 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I advise a fridge. < 1421706442 386559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had pomegranates in probably over a decade, I want to try one < 1421706587 912944 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're tasty, but a pain in the ass. < 1421706597 297904 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend just getting some pom juice. < 1421706691 663478 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421706903 379266 :oren!~oren@65.94.96.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am designing a tonal programming language < 1421706954 923058 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Work has a fridge. I could have MealSquares sent to work < 1421706966 690284 :oren!~oren@65.94.96.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tone will be indicated by varying the capitalization of the word < 1421707027 785573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol "Teamwork OP" < 1421707033 743017 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unworkable idea of the day: a flavor-based programming language, which code checks based on the taste preferences of the specific compiler installation used to build it. < 1421707036 384314 :oren!~oren@65.94.96.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. high tone KIN low tone kin, rising tone kiN falling tone KIn < 1421707106 534408 :S1!~S1@p4FF92A08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1421707366 755852 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1421707698 748786 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: You can build an overtone language. < 1421707712 64635 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOO < 1421707754 909976 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fells totally retarded < 1421707778 301011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1421707807 233638 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421707810 7427 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :h0rsep0wer: I used to be able to do that. < 1421707817 815149 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably still could if I tried. < 1421707837 193221 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! Nice! < 1421707880 808554 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the ones that don't know what it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VGbFB91eM34 < 1421707924 847966 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues singing (OooooooooOOOooooOOOO) < 1421707964 782444 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overtone singing is *hard*. < 1421707974 861395 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've pulled it off, like, once. < 1421708014 378245 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned Tuvan style from a friend, though I never practiced it much. It's really about hitting the right tone to get the nose whistling. < 1421708166 389539 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuvan seems to be more subconscious. < 1421708234 776140 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You basically start with a low drone, and kind of work the vibration up until you hit the sweet spot and then sure enough, in comes the nose whistle. < 1421708263 581037 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it helped that I had experience doing that kind of tone because the friend and I used to do an act where we did the human bagpipes. < 1421708328 142680 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :->> You basically start with a low drone, and kind of work the vibration up until you hit the sweet spot and then sure enough, in comes the nose whistle. < 1421708350 448834 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true, I tried it now. :D < 1421708418 211619 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nonsense word I would sing to hit the zone was, essentially 'Ooowaaareeee' or somesuch like that (can't try it now, 1 in the morning here) < 1421708434 348714 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ......ººººººººººººooooooooooooo0000000000000000OCCCCCCCCCCCCC < 1421708506 809636 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a good overtone teacher :D < 1421708571 225503 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooowaaareeeeeeeeeeeeouiooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuiooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu < 1421708703 164463 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haojeegjqlrgtklp JOIN :#esoteric < 1421708818 854860 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421708832 607543 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haojeegjqlrgtklp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk what my language will be called but it looks retarded < 1421708842 916646 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.72.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1421709172 471587 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421709403 218267 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.215.85.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421711731 816613 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haojeegjqlrgtklp NICK :Zeoul < 1421711743 616569 :Zeoul!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haojeegjqlrgtklp NICK :Lilax < 1421711755 535595 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haojeegjqlrgtklp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahaha < 1421711977 757910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric