< 1421971315 577342 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421971482 921760 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1421971495 462096 :Lymia!~fujoshi@172.56.6.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421971495 615358 :Lymia!~fujoshi@172.56.6.104 QUIT :Changing host < 1421971495 615474 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1421971558 484618 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421971793 164402 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421971815 65097 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421971949 29290 :not^v!~notnot^v@198.109.114.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1421972206 491479 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421972603 53885 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421972787 519487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 973 < 1421972788 443890 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 973: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1421972846 565434 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421972959 875787 :Lymia!~fujoshi@tccd250-2.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1421972960 68684 :Lymia!~fujoshi@tccd250-2.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1421972960 68821 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1421972989 581755 :not^v!~notnot^v@198.109.114.66 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1421974129 295904 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1421974433 289700 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1421975000 338783 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1421976126 561709 :barryking!~barryking@fw-gw.kink.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1421976138 946291 :barryking!~barryking@fw-gw.kink.com NICK :KrimHum < 1421976171 683260 :KrimHum!~barryking@fw-gw.kink.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1421976256 476906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1421976262 470891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice kink.com hostname < 1421976300 740952 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1421976486 938743 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1421976520 810304 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421976526 432044 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1421976858 250744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1421977006 26094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh rjan < 1421977011 107707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :øøh, perhaps < 1421977094 467003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaxxxxaf < 1421977116 872438 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1421977119 810434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is olist 973 hth < 1421977129 366076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed < 1421977231 321161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see simonpj has suggested simply making _every_ type Typeable as a way to solve the bug < 1421977264 610611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone suggested not requiring Typeable constraints < 1421977273 875963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo who needs 'em < 1421977280 923933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i think that would be awkward to achieve... < 1421977315 282119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the dystopian ghc future, parametricity is but a distant memory < 1421977341 807211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did we ever let spj take over, we ask ourselves. but it is too late < 1421977354 739711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets confused when people use nicks but still address each other with real names
< 1421977378 893998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but goldfire is richard eisenberg, right < 1421977384 501234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1421977404 20510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :middle initial A < 1421977405 385401 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you be more confused by people addressing someone IRL with a screen name rather than with their real name? < 1421977414 65397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good subject for a double dactyl < 1421977419 238617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let's ask Taneb hth < 1421977476 171315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: due to great confusion of this sort i started keeping a file with nick<->name mappings for haskell people < 1421977476 361018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pterodactyl meter < 1421977479 852265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has ~200 entries now < 1421977480 969280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great < 1421977484 384983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1421977605 943446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: do people do that to you < 1421977631 658363 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1421977637 500116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be confused how to pronounce it. but then Taneb doesn't put the stress where i would, either. < 1421977649 471563 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately I answer to it. < 1421977659 497607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pika pika" < 1421977663 499189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks and runs
< 1421977665 815270 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "pikachu". "peek eitch kyuu" < 1421977690 37452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i really knew that < 1421977736 221207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't pronounce pikachu like "peek eitch kyuu" < 1421977736 863146 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn stupid mouth feeling punched. < 1421977743 206941 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :P < 1421977760 21319 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"peek a chuu" vs. "peek eitch kyuu". They sound similar. < 1421977773 167329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I said pikhq it'd be like p'k heich queue < 1421977773 585319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but not identical < 1421977780 286252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas pikachu would be peek a chew < 1421977825 213793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say banayna, you say banahna < 1421977868 345872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is inspired by the latest iwc poll
< 1421977881 860895 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why're you all making 'pik' a single syllable?! < 1421977895 833614 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause I speak English. < 1421977912 609707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerhört < 1421977923 276668 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unerhört < 1421977939 61309 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I speak Japanese I say "pikachu" as 4 morae (pi ka chu u) as is proper. < 1421977952 262050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the incomprehensible joke is that oe is two syllables in that swedish word) < 1421977963 991476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means "unheard of") < 1421977971 802193 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-erjan? < 1421977985 856366 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey I accidently translated it into german correctly. < 1421977992 632889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1421978021 313575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fairly likely to have been half-borrowed from german in the first place, specifically the -er- part < 1421978030 833011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: have you considered a legal name change to Pik Headquarters < 1421978036 233813 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1421978043 304929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that prefix isn't native nordic afair < 1421978096 981824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the rest of the word was probably borrowed too, it's not like the prefix was borrowed in isolation) < 1421978136 194016 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hear hear! < 1421978214 130410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it may very well have expanded to native words afterwards. < 1421978379 268789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the traditional difference in vocabulary in nynorsk vs. bokmål is because the nynorsk supporters had a certain repulsion against such obvious german loanwords < 1421978440 415978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.g. the nynorsk word for "reality" is "røynd" rather than the german-borrowed bokmål "virkelighet" < 1421978521 96970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nynorsk was envisioned as "going back to the roots" < 1421978587 51 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however some of those words feel so archaic that most nynorsk users today use the german-derived loanwords anyway < 1421978674 223312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course being constantly exposed to the majority bokmål media probably doesn't help with keeping the differences) < 1421978696 768066 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421979099 248674 :Lymia!~fujoshi@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1421979099 402092 :Lymia!~fujoshi@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1421979099 402192 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1421979176 564016 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421979778 44188 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day, the Norwegian Question becomes confuser and confuser... < 1421979845 504199 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea Wikipedia had a main contents page. < 1421979846 221948 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents < 1421979879 468110 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421980095 106294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: correct < 1421980312 372956 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1421980703 689069 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1421980893 223950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SWUNG CHICKEN < 1421982208 280866 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me I'm excited about a Microsoft product < 1421982332 682463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits Sgeo with the saucepan ===\__/
< 1421982336 714323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID THAT HELP < 1421982378 966264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help me oerjan i'm excited about a culinary product < 1421982388 544063 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No because the saucepan isn't 'holographic' < 1421982414 783812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry you're doomed hth < 1421982422 195853 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok we need a better word than holographic because iirc that means a specific means of projecting 3d images, and everything interesting is using... different ways of doing it < 1421982465 658320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say holographic implies that it can be correctly viewed from different angles, unlike e.g. 3d glasses < 1421982525 105825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least "ordinary" 3d glasses with a flat cinema screen) < 1421982580 602524 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Oculus Rift and HoloLens wouldn't count, since you see the 3d screen itself from one angle? < 1421982608 270658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read enough about those products < 1421982654 252646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say, you'd ideally also want _more than one person_ to be able to watch, from different angles, at the same time. < 1421982687 175282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course even laser holograms are limited in the range of angles they allow, i think < 1421982707 729378 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augmented Reality is the term used for stuff like HoloLens, I think. < 1421982756 463537 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that, you could get an eyetap for both eyes. < 1421982771 389366 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D effect would be fine if emulated via head tracking. < 1421982897 800736 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the SDK will be like
< 1421982914 824731 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's more complicated than normal 3D programming, which I don't totally understand < 1421983446 324998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/2ta829/arstechnica_handson_microsofts_hololens_is/cnxfznw < 1421983773 865042 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj JOIN :#esoteric < 1421984152 575241 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically speaking the force of two planets smashing into eachother is considered an explosion < 1421984257 423133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : where's that thing about "objects are just a special case of functions" / "functions are just a special case of objects" <-- i think it's one of the "koans" < 1421984388 306224 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you keep apostrophe's in your latex text when you convert to pdf? < 1421984427 980557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Google for "Qc na" < 1421984428 509817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1421984459 543715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: i think you can drop at least one apostrophe hth < 1421984460 581539 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazoogle < 1421984489 631514 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1421984504 829249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea why apostrophes would be a problem.
< 1421984538 826969 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj PRIVMSG #esoteric :/is doing this for someone < 1421984541 258810 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1421984545 231438 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea either < 1421985513 742654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I suddenly realised I'm not being listened to. <-- you should have seen yesterday's tensor conversation. < 1421985513 895807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1421985629 237488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott everything he said was technically correct yet missing the point of our discussion. < 1421985629 428634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1421985711 589659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should have said so outright at the time. < 1421986412 911433 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1421986477 673649 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1421987135 421420 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1421987652 284502 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421988308 860881 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1421990406 100910 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling HoloLens UI as a productivity tool is more good for graphic design and less good for other stuff < 1421990421 243448 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the whole 'do you really want to wave your arms in the air for extended periods of time' thing < 1421990442 498744 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although mouse+keyboard+no monitor could be cool < 1421990728 67002 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1421990840 877031 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421991532 92886 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421992116 423631 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421992317 76623 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421992921 733358 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421993032 819480 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421993631 461940 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421994322 446520 :Lilax!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bixplqetnylpumuj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1421995272 993441 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1421995793 677247 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421996033 483772 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1421996410 592244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm today's girl genius is the last of a double spread, but seems to be missing the usual elegant and finely crafted link to a big version. < 1421996631 136545 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421996788 932585 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a hyperlink. All craftsdevship is of the highest quality. < 1421996976 99949 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421997020 656446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no "elegant and finely-crafted link" is an official term, e.g. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20061011 < 1421997490 624827 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : be two days' worth of story, but this time we thought it < 1421997491 4876 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : best to use the whole thing for one day. Simply scroll down to read the second page. You can also view the whole thing by following this < 1421997491 158552 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : elegant and finely-crafted link.

< 1421997511 767395 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avant-garde, daring in its asymmetry. I like it < 1421997578 2942 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421997832 845984 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421997932 302434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you think I'd be better off not avoiding coördinates? < 1421997954 465590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did say that that was how you learned it. < 1421997969 978389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well learned *of* it < 1421998009 552796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it makes more sense if you also know the categorical viewpoint < 1421998064 93247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i'm not sure there is much more to the coordinates than "pairs of basis elements for each space form a basis for their tensor product" < 1421998197 582345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't have a good motivation for a lot of the things < 1421998277 116677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you understand matrices as the most obvious way of writing an element of V* (x) W in form of basis elements, and that that is canonically isomorphic to V -o W... < 1421998310 971528 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1421998367 866283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you i don't know either how to actually _calculate_ with tensors whenever derivatives are involved... < 1421998435 711654 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421998437 229155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic motivation for tensors afaiu is "how to describe physics properties in terms that are independent of your choice of coordinate systems" < 1421998489 55247 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1421998499 174304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the non-coordinate way of defining things makes it bloody obvious that what you've done actually _is_ independent of them. < 1421998521 637870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you can do things with coordinates and show that they behave nicely under transformations. < 1421998570 243519 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1421998570 396675 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1421999065 293270 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1421999116 566558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still doesn't actually see how to show that V* (x) W is isomorphic to V -o W without using coordinates
< 1421999162 275786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, V must be finite-dimensional < 1421999188 357538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1421999201 140338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it just work given that V ~ V**? < 1421999213 146271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's of course pretty darn equivalent < 1421999225 989345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to being finite dimensional < 1421999253 6336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe that means it also works for infinite dimensional hilbert spaces if interpreted right < 1421999284 388550 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1421999302 562361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway i don't see how it follows from V ~ V** either < 1421999343 638627 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1421999354 593289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1421999360 312885 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1421999367 589592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, what was wrong with the thing i did yesterday? < 1421999377 601914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember what you did < 1421999422 512419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(V -o W) (V -o ((W -o F) -o F)) ((V (x) (W -o F)) -o F) < 1421999429 199825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, and i wasn't sure about the last step < 1421999445 447212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it's V that needs to be finite dimensional, not W < 1421999445 670111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but surely (V (x) W*)* = V* (x) W < 1421999462 306145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were talking about the case where V=W anyway < 1421999466 784845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's a tensor < 1421999489 395306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess now your question is more general < 1421999491 205479 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1421999567 706205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1421999591 344959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure (V (x) W*)* is only ~ V* (x) W if the whole thing is finite dimensional < 1421999598 545584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://planetmath.org/tensorproductofdualspacesisadualspaceoftensorproduct < 1421999627 845923 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a German compound word < 1421999728 200720 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sorproduct pretty infrequently. < 1421999738 941956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it sounds like they're constructing something extremely non-canonical < 1421999764 25794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1421999821 542315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and implying in a side note that it's better if one of the spaces is FD < 1422001031 439209 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.jle.im/entry/io-monad-considered-harmful < 1422001762 473358 :arjanb!8259ab21@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.33 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1422004116 893860 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1422005577 839058 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422006129 773121 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1422006134 260440 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/dramforever/kspl < 1422006138 516404 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/dramforever/kspl/blob/master/sample.kspl < 1422006175 769914 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1422006976 797443 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1422006977 260478 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1422006978 900392 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1422007012 304143 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER watch guiness world records top 100 < 1422007026 502119 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to be disgusted < 1422007031 414184 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then go for it. < 1422007611 217115 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :World's most disgusting world records program < 1422008421 864164 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: you should be able to implement that with TeX... < 1422008481 900716 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes (I didnt make this) < 1422008522 913064 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1422008736 401858 :_meta!~user11231@124-168-98-197.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1422009070 177934 :_meta!~user11231@124-168-98-197.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1422010104 343393 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1422011272 785568 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422011454 37656 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422011812 404325 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my Lego BF interpreter working[0] last night. [0] It needs some attention around the rack/pinion interface, but apart from that it works :-) < 1422011868 812618 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats ! < 1422011910 611240 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty - I was very please when it managed to multiply 4*3 last night. < 1422011936 674542 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately a colleague has told me the tape drive sounds like a sarcastic duck - and he's right ! < 1422011962 834151 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422012032 648955 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1422012060 825286 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/photos/113373535180413523278/albums/6105388692419944513?authkey=CL2uopH9jZOkEQ < 1422012069 519236 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vid of it at work. Quack, quack, quack ... < 1422012548 388157 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha it really does < 1422012590 328916 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound as bad IRL, but maybe this is programmed in QF, for QuackF*ck ;-) < 1422012613 706973 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I can see a GIF preview but not any video. < 1422012625 861817 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :click on the gif I believe < 1422012817 897090 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the coloured squares the program or the tape? (Unfortunately I can't find any video.) < 1422012880 904455 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1422012900 648975 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Wonder why you've got no video. < 1422012914 454623 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/113373535180413523278/posts/D1rFySseXQ2 < 1422012932 409957 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try that - public post, so you should be able to click the gif to get the video < 1422012941 467642 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red/Green = < > < 1422012948 751331 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black / White = - + < 1422012958 341378 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yellow / Brown = , . < 1422012962 840151 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue / Grey = [ ] < 1422013264 240718 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well, I found a video URL in the HTML text. < 1422013577 256977 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1422013837 872789 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's interesting, the program is on the tape and I suppose the tape is in digital memory < 1422013855 359342 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't store anything that's on the tape. < 1422013866 99511 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The memory is internal - 256 bytes of it. < 1422013910 480906 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a program counter and a stack internally - used to manage the [ ] < 1422013924 824189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1422013932 40460 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the tank treads for, though? < 1422013953 888643 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are used to move the sensor/flipper arm in the Y-axis < 1422013964 530676 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rack/pinion moves it in the X-axis. < 1422014074 80749 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't quite see what they are for < 1422014140 1317 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the arm underneath the bits is attached to them. The move that arm up/down to select which bit to test/flip < 1422014156 787285 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rack is used to select which nibble and which direction to test/flip < 1422014177 952234 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it that it's not clear how they are used to move the arm in the video ? < 1422014213 619711 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is clear, but the eight "bits" at the top of the frame aren't < 1422014220 159259 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1422014227 473312 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :held above a sensor/flipper < 1422014283 442562 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be back in a while - I'll post some more vids that show the flipper in operation, < 1422014290 399537 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain, how they affect the interpretation of the program (or the other way round)? < 1422014454 9007 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh nevermind, clearly those are the input and output ports. < 1422014508 996630 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to build a physical computer too < 1422014611 734607 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle you don't need a photosensor, you could control the tape with a stepper motor (but it will probably use an optical encoder internally) < 1422015496 823350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1422015849 789046 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: THEOLOGICAL CHICKEN < 1422016350 432064 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the sound effects of that bf lego thing < 1422016585 662908 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422017002 895369 :anamaria1!~ana@213.165.165.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422017092 100310 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1422017160 747495 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1422017671 338552 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data DQ a = DQ (DQ (a, a)) < 1422017673 458102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1422017736 82540 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parametricity < 1422017755 935814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that isomorphic to data X a = X X < 1422017816 266752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks, but I don't think I need the link now that I had that realisation :P < 1422017820 759244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I've < 1422017916 596820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422017923 997092 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Kaplan-Tarjan deque has something like DQ a = DQ0 | DQ [a] (DQ (a, a)) [a] < 1422017957 25646 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just occurred to me that this is a very strange recursive type < 1422017968 294073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nested data types, I think they're called < 1422017971 13208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some paper about them < 1422017984 289847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data BinTree a = Leaf a | Branch (BinTree (a,a)) < 1422018065 769955 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Mycroft calls such schemes polymorphic recursions. We prefer the term nested datatypes” are they serious < 1422018135 880889 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=google.com < 1422018199 736528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :polymorphic recursion is often used for the value-level version I guess < 1422018204 467911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah nested data types is a weird term < 1422018348 740368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please provide a regular expression that can parse JSON. Go ahead, I'll wait. ← http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2svijo/commandline_tools_can_be_235x_faster_than_your/cnvdsak < 1422018356 725353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it because I could, not because it's a good idea < 1422018442 757329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice "test JSON" < 1422018497 281993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried it on any really big JSON < 1422018502 501570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, JSON has a really simple spec < 1422018511 692541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main thing that took me problems was when it said "except control characters" < 1422018516 821576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that gave me problems < 1422018519 813050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it works in terms of Unicode < 1422018521 773389 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :but JSON is complex compared to s-expressin isnt it? < 1422018530 491400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: yes, although not that much more complex < 1422018545 441641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s-expressions still need to distinguish between strings and numbers and atoms, normally < 1422018558 790276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only difference is that JSON has dictionaries and lists, and s-expressions just have lists < 1422018560 262090 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the code you posted is not an regular expresison... < 1422018588 955363 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I still need the photo sensor as that's what reads the program < 1422018601 668575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: indeed, it's a Perl regex < 1422018604 947231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a superset of regular expressions < 1422018620 983293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that that was the sort of "regular expression" people wanted based on context, though < 1422018653 511530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON can't be parsed by a finite state machine (proof: 1, [1], [[1]], [[[1]]], etc.) < 1422018699 353839 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0] lol backreferences, lol sed is Turing-complete < 1422018702 626140 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure I undersatnd this ^ < 1422018722 803961 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "I've just come to realize a sad fact though: processing raw text streams through mostly-regular languages is really weak" < 1422018746 340634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed is TC, but it has nothing to do with backreferences < 1422018751 743444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deterministic-thue is trivial to implement in sed < 1422018764 546973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, to compile into sed < 1422018765 836207 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :but baically what the fuck is he on about < 1422018768 507728 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what im wondering < 1422018824 676159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a random reddit comment thread < 1422018832 584649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it might just be a random sequence of words that are vaguely related to the subject < 1422018848 98286 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or vaguely unrelated, in this case < 1422018868 755879 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he know about parsing < 1422018883 549915 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The title post reminded me of a recent talk I attended, the speaker talked about challenges processing "several gigabytes" of medical records. < 1422018956 750248 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic ant make any sense of it < 1422018960 824900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting to see just how big "Big Data" is at any given point in time < 1422018979 743333 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to be saying regular languages (and by this he includes non regular languages too) isnt good for everything < 1422018983 503527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time the question came up (a few weeks ago), someone defined it quite specifically as "the indexes of your database take up more than 224 gigabytes" < 1422019010 43454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because with today's technology, that's the point at which you need specialized hardware to be able to fit them all in memory on a single computer at the same time < 1422019031 686008 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which chipset has this 224 GiB limit? (Presumably AWS uses it.) < 1422019062 470671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that was actually the largest buyable AWS instance at the time of the comment < 1422019068 56121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it seems like a reasonable chipset limit < 1422019070 418438 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still is, apparently < 1422019102 605397 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and costs $3 per hour. Tempting...) < 1422019225 289207 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most chipsets have rounder numbers as limits < 1422019290 867994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :224 is moderately round < 1422019304 329818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ factor 224 < 1422019305 435898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :224: 2 2 2 2 2 7 < 1422019347 24535 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 224fc < 1422019347 310330 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 2 4 7 8 14 16 28 32 56 112 224} < 1422019349 596641 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 224fC < 1422019349 750917 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {2 2 2 2 2 7} < 1422019397 804794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a factorisation primitive is almost as cheating as using a factorisation program ;-) < 1422019412 777241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to write factor in underlambda < 1422019418 390026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem being I haven't figured out how arithmetic works yet < 1422019440 713022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here have advice for writing pure-functional factoring algos? < 1422019441 761667 :TieSleep!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1422019471 891927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can implement loops as folds but it's a pain, and I can write fixpoint operators to get arbitrary loops but that's even more of a pain < 1422019476 88404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are definitely plenty of servers with more RAM than 224 gigabytes < 1422019486 607756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that's even big data (tm) < 1422019496 152147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, but those are going to be specialized for the purpose of having a lot of RAM < 1422019505 619181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's big, but I think Big means something... a bit more than "you need TWO servers!!"? < 1422019512 548340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "indexes" bit that sold me, though < 1422019518 885886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so, fair enough. < 1422019523 809012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how much disk space would you need to store the raw data for a database with 224GB of indexes < 1422019528 805499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I guess it depends on how many indexes you have < 1422019544 281812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel like database rows are usually that huge. < 1422019547 117613 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does underlambda have integer division < 1422019587 112043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even have integer addition yet < 1422019591 575295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, it's easy enough to build it by hand < 1422019601 199401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same way as in underload < 1422019612 805620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it took me months just to figure out the I/O primitives < 1422019648 331986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think addition, subtraction, multiplication, division/modulus are going to be high-tier primitives, though < 1422019648 485742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if div and mod should be one operation or two < 1422019665 329244 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just split the search range recursively < 1422019673 568553 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying all this without knowing what underlambda is < 1422019713 657731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: underlambda is a project of mine to cross-interpret as many esolangs as possible to and from < 1422019726 245827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it's a range of languages, each of which is a superset of the ones below < 1422019735 172316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and higher tier languages compile into lower tier languages < 1422019751 483056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the higher tier languages are intended to be reasonably pleasant to write in, if esoteric (think Funge-98) < 1422019756 792180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lower tier languages are intended to be easy to implement < 1422019767 597664 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the r3.8x instance now offers 244GiB. < 1422019781 190816 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 244fC < 1422019781 404053 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {2 2 61} < 1422019848 779484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Amazon have some reason to be a little under 256GiB < 1422019917 226043 :anamaria1!~ana@213.165.165.178 PART :#esoteric < 1422019917 812967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because the systems are virtualised, say? < 1422019920 253246 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422019925 40625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because the systems are virtualised, say? < 1422019929 74706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that leaves 12 gigabytes of RAM for the hypervisor < 1422019941 694670 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make sense < 1422019948 576053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1422019951 163513 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1422019953 105051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when you get an instance that large you get the entirety of one physical box < 1422019957 397444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but you still run in Xen on it) < 1422019972 226876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether the amount of RAM hypervisors needs scales with the size of the OSes they're managing < 1422019982 223353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 gigabytes seems like maybe a lot, but I guess it's probably needed for keeping track of all that RAM in internal structures and stuff < 1422019993 182641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1422020006 727308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably have fancy stuff on the boxes that needs RAM, anyway < 1422020279 468666 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422020485 51248 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 256 20 2**.*4./ < 1422020485 240731 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 25600 < 1422020493 303295 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 256 2 20**.*4./ < 1422020493 479406 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 67108864 < 1422020592 586876 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %s=1024 "~ -> ~"|[%s? %s? 1024 ?/]|f~ < 1422020592 740133 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "1024 -> 1" < 1422021415 871391 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1422021461 259168 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422022383 259666 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1422022607 553602 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422023923 68744 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1422024289 579675 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1422025100 662829 :ProofTechnique!~NihilistD@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422026168 89209 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422026171 675997 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1422026243 890557 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422026607 758028 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422027059 914229 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422027431 634245 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it should be possible to translate some languages to otherslosslessly < 1422027525 131378 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1422027531 753172 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages or natural languages? < 1422027541 148896 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages < 1422027554 21576 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah without interpretive overhead < 1422027609 306912 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the set of primitive commands is the same but their syntax is different < 1422027654 183275 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the definition of "primitive commands" can be made more general < 1422027738 549346 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the key is, "losslessly" includes both loss of speed, and also loss of comprehensibility by humans < 1422027754 92529 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think you should factor in "comprehensibility by humans" < 1422027782 84172 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1422027784 676042 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you loose variable names when translating to brainfuck < 1422027802 341778 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will generally lose efificency too < 1422027805 469565 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly, but not when translating to, say, C < 1422027820 487562 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1422027831 321265 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is a loss of human-readablity < 1422027849 724762 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So which languages are compatible in this manner? < 1422027879 785301 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, for starters, C# and VB.net are < 1422027894 143693 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby, python, perl , php < 1422027897 871469 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :all equivalent < 1422027913 536684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are differences in object models there < 1422027919 540664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you'd have to model in a kind of ugly way < 1422027924 13681 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :php loses the array-hash distinction < 1422027946 286392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost no two real languages are going to be exactly compatible in this way < 1422027953 38379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but plenty of them have large, practical subsets which are < 1422028003 320596 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously brainfuck and ook < 1422028016 549907 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously? < 1422028020 803263 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the other "Hey I'm a new esolang but it's just brainfuck using different symbols" < 1422028035 55591 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, I think that's the word for it. < 1422028042 470754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-]Ook! is a brainfuck program < 1422028069 448326 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably also an Ook program < 1422028078 468653 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook [-] polyglots should be really easy < 1422028083 755274 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOk Brainfuck < 1422028086 557886 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOKK!K!KK!K! < 1422028173 973241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can encode the non-brainfuck operators as whitespace. < 1422028251 381656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How human-readable. < 1422028252 499979 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook! doesn't have much leeway in its syntax. < 1422028254 542763 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess translating C to C++ is pretty loss-lessy < 1422028256 211899 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and readable < 1422028301 364776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other way around, though... < 1422028311 679593 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ written by me is translatable to C < 1422028312 497948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, I know that's how C++ started out.) < 1422028321 534486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibility_of_C_and_C%2B%2B#Constructs_valid_in_C_but_not_in_C.2B.2B < 1422028327 377403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular it's pretty much exactly impossible for C++ -> C < 1422028335 97722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to erase templates < 1422028338 806551 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the only features of C++ I use are vector and string < 1422028344 190991 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's no bijective < 1422028346 126686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C just isn't powerful enough for the translation < 1422028350 220990 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oren didn't ask for bijections! < 1422028355 796531 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1422028409 42874 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422028743 783353 :ProofTechnique!~NihilistD@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1422029052 698542 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422029116 988281 :booly-yam-6332!~cinch@bzq-79-183-25-208.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422029169 714230 :booly-yam-6332!~cinch@bzq-79-183-25-208.red.bezeqint.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422029215 542538 :booly-yam-6445!~cinch@bzq-79-183-25-208.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422029311 716491 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.Tripwire: points -21.40, score 6.55, rank 47/47 < 1422029448 321713 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.Tripwire_M2: points -22.19, score 6.04, rank 47/47 < 1422029544 361589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422029596 445181 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a word for speaking another language so that someone can't butt in? < 1422029624 435593 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :encryption < 1422029648 836728 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a natural language. < 1422029703 833091 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.HyperShudder: points -4.45, score 15.71, rank 42/47 < 1422029725 265584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have realized that my parents talk about me when they are speaking French < 1422029762 28650 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_talker < 1422029783 930981 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: so you know which language to study next :P < 1422029823 843822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: haskell < 1422029830 741466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you already said natural language < 1422029844 304474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel must be pretty weird if you don't know haskell though < 1422029912 515769 :S1!~S1@p4FF92909.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422029991 397139 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422030038 429036 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422030261 668265 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is just #haskell in disguise. < 1422030279 158529 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1422030489 287316 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote #haskell < 1422030491 16024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :388) ive been in #haskell and #agda primarily, recently So is #agda now full of dependently-typed gay sex? < 1422030619 616256 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422030648 391340 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman < 1422030648 824099 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was always full of dependently-typed gay sex < 1422030649 307291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. < 1422030649 671041 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422030667 671873 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1422030668 737788 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :password security?? < 1422030674 700027 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1422030677 143642 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example < 1422030678 586148 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :could oyu check my password or me < 1422030680 113482 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :for < 1422030689 104663 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of using your real name as a username and your date of birth as the password < 1422030699 564070 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use your date of birth as the username and your real name as the password < 1422030737 415480 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422030786 838884 :ofjjf!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422030799 420966 :h0rsep0wer!h0rsep0wer@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1422030800 959136 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422030813 157933 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1422030843 608254 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422030856 845511 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :laewspeaker < 1422030864 258848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422030866 192800 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 NICK :loudspeaker < 1422030869 360625 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422030888 589770 :laewspeaker!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1422030961 613136 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for stuff that doesn't matter, I use my favorite pokemon as the password. If someone knows my favorte pokemon, they're probably my friend anyway < 1422030976 354266 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :favorte pokemon is orenball < 1422030986 936312 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1422030994 41001 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a regex that muches pokemons but not digimons < 1422030998 695845 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muches < 1422030999 676826 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1422031001 62807 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :matches < 1422031042 685237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is oren's favourite pokémon < 1422031042 946609 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and apparently if you fail, try mzscheme.... < 1422031062 404541 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, pokemon < 1422031062 703046 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: f! " i knew mathematicians don't like vacuous jargons as the unix perl programing morons" < 1422031069 157001 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :f! < 1422031070 695937 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1422031070 849433 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1422031080 310000 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style qwantz < 1422031080 463547 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: qwantz (Dinosaur Comics transcriptions 2003-2011) < 1422031084 104049 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pokemon < 1422031084 411223 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :loudspeaker: but a good one! it's funny this one time in high school, a friend, but i have a problem, t-rex? < 1422031093 977773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is it the charizard? < 1422031094 199824 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but, it's this crazy/ wacky issue settled first, but it's a more familiar feeling, but never one to believe in love at all. < 1422031094 472599 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1422031104 120317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball is it the charizard? < 1422031104 836336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better not tell you now. < 1422031115 612024 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1422031115 765327 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031126 317158 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422031127 769547 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool Do I have cancer? < 1422031132 388191 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1422031134 342670 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1422031134 496090 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031137 115007 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1422031148 43034 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031148 232105 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031153 624557 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031153 821828 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031155 99502 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031155 257027 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031163 607886 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Um, What < 1422031163 784289 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031168 687236 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1422031171 815326 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Do I really have cancer? < 1422031171 968435 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031172 121756 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031172 121891 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031175 583700 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031175 772577 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031182 185148 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool^bool^bool < 1422031184 982536 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Are you lying about me really not having cancer? < 1422031185 194495 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031187 203280 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1422031188 155123 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's broken < 1422031213 529218 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball a < 1422031213 686266 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031215 145034 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball a a < 1422031215 325464 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031216 105153 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball a a a < 1422031216 271063 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031217 66218 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball a a a a < 1422031217 245400 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031218 82095 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball a a a a a < 1422031218 280782 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031238 260608 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball fungot < 1422031238 413768 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031243 966602 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball are you just counting words? < 1422031244 166756 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031261 344531 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball you are just counting my words? < 1422031261 575472 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031279 310751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball AAAAAAAAAAAA < 1422031279 463981 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031293 515262 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1422031299 297225 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1422031307 153799 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8 < 1422031317 228829 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rand < 1422031319 991189 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rand < 1422031325 191270 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1422031325 344718 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422031327 188988 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1422031327 342589 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031360 399204 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently a random boolean can in fact encourage insanity < 1422031403 668275 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insanity is a random boolean. < 1422031406 591019 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, random boolean emerge < 1422031406 858092 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: i i guess and his skin, and all i memorized was how to cook a meal! oh, i wasn't talking about you here, i have and now god's in on it too, utahraptor < 1422031423 287053 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :utahraptor < 1422031438 528929 :loudspeaker!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... the kind of raptors only found in Utah. < 1422031466 943257 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1422031467 132778 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz* sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1422031494 268238 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is europarl what i think it is? < 1422031519 653360 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the european parliament? < 1422031548 22081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1422031548 175299 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1422031552 917393 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!fungot: do you wear heavy armor? < 1422031553 70762 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1422031554 462915 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mr president, ' in a debate which touches on the foundations of the internal market, prompted by the recent amendment passed by the greek government has particular wishes, it will not fall over? we can start with this point so that we can act on its own, no matter where it is to syria's advantage. the war in former yugoslavia or countries stricken by natural disasters or to other victims. in fact it remains difficult, < 1422031559 797990 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you add a corpus to fungot? < 1422031560 421036 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, i welcome the amendments tabled by the committee on women' s health as a result of the referendum in western sahara in the short and medium distances, the railway is declining, and that is my response on behalf of information policy of the commission. < 1422031600 860497 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1422031601 13805 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1422031604 718245 :hoosieree!~hoosieree@2001:18e8:2:10a2:5c26:e58f:8619:7bef QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422031610 941866 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, pleased to meet you < 1422031611 215209 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: this crash. unfortunately it was manned. ignore him. < 1422031630 112357 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1422031630 265972 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: wtf, way to go ahead and prove it, i won't. it could be a cast member for snl. < 1422031631 175224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how can you care about such things when the railway is declining! < 1422031649 861659 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, epic roof jump < 1422031650 37727 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: avril lavigne? if it's been that way since about 11:45 pm. i don't care, i was going to become a cast member < 1422031650 227853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not counting words. < 1422031650 399182 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422031670 876306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, however, based on the parity of the sum of all input bytes, if I remember right. < 1422031748 186762 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1422031748 340289 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1422031755 654690 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1422031755 868849 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: the registrar may change the probability of selecting that option. < 1422031766 624494 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1422031766 816670 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: iv) its recordkeepor; and sane. the < 1422031788 204382 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ff7 < 1422031788 358041 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ff7 (Full script of the game Final Fantasy VII) < 1422031797 231968 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome fungot < 1422031797 444139 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: just once, long ago, about being in soldier? you don't think they'd stand up to the beach! there are 2 angles to choose, i'd be good at escaping... < 1422031812 642503 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1422031812 796282 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that's why we decided to help! my strange and wonderful little place. it's a reunion of childhood pals! < 1422031819 876559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sounds nice. < 1422031820 30041 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm all right, that's not what i do feel a little cold. < 1422031852 998316 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently in 1996, the Ontario legislature shrank by about 30 members. The law that did this was called the Fewer Politicians Act. < 1422031869 57877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wow < 1422031883 722454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1422031891 994963 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need an Even Fewer Politicians ACT < 1422031897 536628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good start, but I'm impressed that politicians would go for it < 1422031900 669433 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031900 833519 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031917 340168 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a distinct lack lf "reply hazy, try again" here. < 1422031940 839710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess the remaining polticians are now receiving more money because their responsibilities have grown so much < 1422031955 92840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031955 246294 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031962 219784 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031962 381891 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031963 283475 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422031963 442237 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031968 538651 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I see a pattern there < 1422031984 884534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball perhaps it depends on the question? < 1422031985 67787 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422031994 301257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball perhaps it doesn't depend on the question? < 1422031994 485881 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032000 55719 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball perhaps it doesn't depend on the question? < 1422032000 241717 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032013 913684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball 123 < 1422032014 67031 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032015 542325 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball 1233 < 1422032015 734268 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032016 687169 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball 12333 < 1422032016 850312 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032017 752677 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball 123333 < 1422032017 905883 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032030 134600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :partity of length? < 1422032038 487717 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Hi! < 1422032038 659381 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032045 532660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Hi!! < 1422032045 697920 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032063 662713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I just told what it depends on. < 1422032083 110439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball aaa < 1422032083 263658 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032084 58292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball aab < 1422032084 211859 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032084 981828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball aac < 1422032085 135132 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032086 124629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball aad < 1422032086 289828 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032087 289393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball aae < 1422032087 442814 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032089 613704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball aaf < 1422032089 795637 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032092 150636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1422032094 209895 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay!!!!1eleven < 1422032166 899403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how's amazon? < 1422032187 968807 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball amazon? < 1422032188 160978 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032239 20497 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy JOIN :#esoteric < 1422032283 6001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know about Amazon. < 1422032291 252651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's quite tropical. < 1422032311 930979 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball < 1422032312 84421 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032383 548466 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball no < 1422032383 740753 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032387 93718 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball yes < 1422032387 247021 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032393 730176 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Yes. < 1422032393 897394 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032406 208893 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :We appear to have reached a fixed point. < 1422032431 13803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to how ASCII is laid out, any change that only affects upper/lowercase (at least for a..z) will never affect the result. < 1422032488 809669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and . has an even ASCII code as well, 46 :) < 1422032520 963264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As has ' '. < 1422032535 33157 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not ? < 1422032543 851884 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball No? < 1422032544 19615 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032577 707214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. But , does. So you can do quite a lot w.r.t. whitespace and punctuation. < 1422032587 665908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball like this < 1422032587 819302 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032591 657506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Like, this. < 1422032591 810929 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032728 908348 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why?! < 1422032764 583066 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422032775 640177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1422032789 123989 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball Like this. < 1422032789 316642 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1422032796 537632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball q? < 1422032796 697691 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1422032944 414175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is actually something I'd like to say, and I think it's quite likely I might be allowed to say it, but I'm not 100% sure about that, and you never know about these things. < 1422033066 598734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07German14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41718&oldid=38607 5* 03151.188.17.247 5* (+82) 10Undo revision 24609 by [[Special:Contributions/97.113.234.143|97.113.234.143]] ([[User talk:97.113.234.143|talk]]) < 1422033271 266248 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I too beleive recent advancements in technology are suspiciously geared towards facilitating the dominance of bees. < 1422033283 319247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41719&oldid=38250 5* 03151.188.17.247 5* (-6461) 10fuck you bitches < 1422033317 535800 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those who speak up against the hives are liable to get stung. < 1422033341 38008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41720&oldid=41719 5* 03151.188.17.247 5* (+215784) 10 < 1422033393 68748 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you say, I'm fairly sure you'll come off at least as more sensible than 151.188.17.247. < 1422033583 653872 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like someone wants to fork Record Management Services. < 1422033614 172433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh charming < 1422033645 166003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1422033647 264539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my assistance required < 1422033679 972112 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're the guy to revert stuff, I would think so. < 1422033687 516658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41721&oldid=41720 5* 03Ehird 5* (-209323) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/151.188.17.247|151.188.17.247]] ([[User talk:151.188.17.247|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:82.35.233.39|82.35.233.39]] < 1422033723 519484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm close enough < 1422033744 975235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07German14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41722&oldid=41718 5* 03Ehird 5* (-82) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/151.188.17.247|151.188.17.247]] ([[User talk:151.188.17.247|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:78.10.83.44|78.10.83.44]] < 1422033758 595757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh I'm not sure I want to block them < 1422033763 354900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hilarious edit will they come up with next < 1422033792 384144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ehird 5* 10blocked [[02User:78.10.83.4410]] with an expiry time of 1 day (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): promoting to sysop for highly valuable contributions to the wiki; please leave a note on your talk page if you're not up to accepting this responsibility < 1422033838 587830 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1422033902 556880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm confused, is that the IP you meant to block? < 1422033911 317469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1422033911 933001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1422033912 731639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1422033924 441901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M COMPETENT OKAY < 1422033938 618396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 unblock10 02 5* 03Ehird 5* 10unblocked User:78.10.83.44: revoking sysop access; turns out you're not the valuable contributor in question < 1422033950 932245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ehird 5* 10blocked [[02User:151.188.17.24710]] with an expiry time of 2 hours (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): promoting to sysop for highly valuable contributions to the wiki; please leave a note on your talk page if you're not up to accepting this responsibility < 1422033975 940531 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ehird 5* 10blocked [[02User:Ehird10]] with an expiry time of 10 minutes (autoblock disabled): useless admin < 1422034440 130217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here who's not connecting from a university, is JSTOR generally open-access? < 1422034466 917449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to tell because the connection here has rights to pretty much all the major journals already paid up < 1422034479 229192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's "generally" that. < 1422034491 219743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's hard to tell from here either. < 1422034503 553676 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends, a lot of the older ('public domain') materials are now free, but require an account. < 1422034517 801986 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422034544 311285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1422034544 464961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aaron swartz rather famously tried to make it so :/ < 1422034555 747230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so: no, sadly.) < 1422034559 82950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out if JSTOR links are useful to people generally, my guess is no < 1422034574 685645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I didn't realise that that was the publisher he was mass-downloading from < 1422034588 455563 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422034643 392642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"open access" is when authors pay a 4 digit figure for a journal article to be freely downloadable later. < 1422034645 907457 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I get reliable access through Tor exits, though I'm not sure if tor2web (another aaronsw project..) permits circuit selection. https://gist.github.com/fmap/7c22bb6f382777dbdf96 < 1422034667 949916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: often, yes :-( < 1422034673 129562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has to be a better way, really < 1422034684 423194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've taken to preferentially citing sources that are freely available online < 1422034685 258359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IEEE wanted $1750 to make my IEEE journal article free. < 1422034689 420267 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there are some people trying. < 1422034692 792282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technical reports, PhD theses, and the like < 1422034712 488295 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like lipics for computer science < 1422034728 51734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, JSTOR is pretty overbearing for a nonprofit < 1422034731 120392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you export a citation < 1422034738 563701 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-191-057.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1422034745 906951 :Jander!~Jander@furnace.nightwatch.org.uk QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1422034747 401547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it comes with /three/ sets of "this is copyright JSTOR stuff with terms and conditions" comments, in the citation < 1422034748 147209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Qfwfq < 1422034749 540645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02Qfwfq: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1422034751 267011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a lot of prejudices to overcome, and a lot of pseudo-objective statistics (impact factor) to actually get academics to publish there... < 1422034752 957359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi, I don't think I've seen you around before) < 1422034759 263466 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-178-012-191-057.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1422034777 466437 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hi, yorick suggested I visit. < 1422034794 362015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, visitors from lurkers < 1422034803 622550 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1422034832 940782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They have plans for "people enthusiastic about research (whether personal or professional), but who do not belong to a university, organization, or public library with access to JSTOR". < 1422034833 528215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hamlet, hmm. < 1422034836 461090 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if the conversations sufficiently high-calibre, that's usually motivation enough. < 1422034851 673764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You just pay $19.50/month or $199/year for a "JPASS", you see. < 1422034862 274283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qfwfq: well, yes, if only that property held of this channel... >_> < 1422034871 639641 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ACM wanted $1700 ($1300 for members)... < 1422034874 472855 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1422034894 98240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Maybe they've standardized prices. < 1422034895 270035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although I guess someone with the username "fmap" will probably fit in here.) < 1422034953 107164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, sadly, those prices are a lot less ridiculous than I expected < 1422034979 950451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, it's sad that I expected them to be more) < 1422035001 263849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The ridiculousness is in the restrictions. You can read an unlimited number of full-texts in the (1800+) journals included in the collection, but you can "save" only up to 10/month. < 1422035038 366871 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lest you be tempted to free them < 1422035087 419524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Register for a MyJSTOR account to receive free, read-only access to as many as 3 articles at a time for a 2-week minimum." < 1422035093 324167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read-only, as opposed to read-write. < 1422035099 496493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, that deal at the end < 1422035100 639366 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I've never heard of this. "Pianist André Tchaikowsky donated his skull to the Royal Shakespeare Company for use in theatrical productions, hoping that it would be used as the skull of Yorick." < 1422035109 708460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that's much much better than most journals are < 1422035119 931232 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of cool, in a creepy way. < 1422035141 585902 :booly-yam-6445_!~cinch@bzq-79-183-25-208.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422035142 561388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although IIRC it used to be 4 at a time, with the two-week waiting period before you can un-checkout a paper to read another < 1422035147 945519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and do they? < 1422035153 51047 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422035159 937018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: according to wikipedia, yes they do. < 1422035185 538981 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, sort of. < 1422035195 751028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :donating my skull to the royal shakespeare company but not to be yorick or anything, just in case they need a cool-ass skull to give off some spooky fucking ambience < 1422035244 95937 :booly-yam-6445!~cinch@bzq-79-183-25-208.red.bezeqint.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422035246 588818 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh well, read for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorick < 1422035290 165688 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Tchaikowsky would be disappointed. < 1422035339 187340 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1422035348 44621 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1422035391 139877 :S1!~S1@p4FF92909.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1422035427 179699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm busy reading the proof that diophantine equations are TC < 1422035438 523368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it came up tangentially in my thesis < 1422035542 143131 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you mean the proof comes up? or just the result as a black box? < 1422035570 390355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well: In 2008, Tchaikowsky's skull was used by David Tennant in an RSC production of Hamlet at the Courtyard Theatre, Stratford-upon-Avon.[8] < 1422035574 703647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hello < 1422035581 542890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: result as a black box < 1422035582 479615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/Tennant_and_Tchaikowsky_as_Hamlet_and_Yorick.jpg this is a really good filename < 1422035587 906477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1422035591 216039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, it's a result I had to dodge < 1422035633 246770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically have a bunch of inequalities which use +, ×, and less-than-or-equal (why is that not on my compose key) < 1422035636 964249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on nonnegative integers < 1422035642 283460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and need to prove that in general this is decidable < 1422035660 876487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it isn't with no restrictions, and I was citing that result to show that it isn't with no restrictions < 1422035665 821821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have a bunch of restrictions I can benefit from < 1422035667 994445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, on what domains of the variables and the constants? < 1422035676 558093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonnegative integers, for both < 1422035683 168691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1422035703 615987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there some other theorem about something like this too? < 1422035740 300673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also something I discovered in my recent citation chasing (PhD is due at the end of the month): one of the lambda calculi (think it was typed, but it might have been untyped), and Church numerals, were published in the same paper < 1422035754 988442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :due at end of month? great < 1422035794 304151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was "due" at end of last year and I didn't actually do it; now I get nag emails every so often about finishing it. < 1422035805 155850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, I've heard that terrible things happen if I'm even marginally late < 1422035808 947432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably varies by institution < 1422035851 401837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anything terrible will happen if I finish mine during, say, the first half of 2015. < 1422035876 953895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll get back to it "real soon now", there's just been too much hassle about moving and stuff.) < 1422035888 796787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least that's the excuse I gave to the last nag email.) < 1422035897 383182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but doesn't the thesis like keep levelling up and become harder to get the more you wait? < 1422035958 159357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, they told me that every week of not working on it makes it take X units of time more when I eventually do. < 1422035969 333837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where X was something like two weeks or a month.) < 1422035980 981409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1422036003 901039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has a level limit though after which it doesn't get any harder < 1422036010 343416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/limit/cap/ < 1422036022 740702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think that's very common in most MMORPGs. < 1422036025 77 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, going to the shop. -> < 1422036089 609066 :ofjjf!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1422036155 13429 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level cap also means they're not turing complete < 1422036216 805251 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422036417 186480 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a good cinnamon for abstract? < 1422036470 399825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1422036488 439375 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :notional < 1422036498 744841 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :conceptual < 1422036513 863174 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinnamons for abstract. < 1422036533 787765 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1422036557 755497 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah I'm gonna call my language "notional cinnamon" < 1422036576 676919 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422036580 901299 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422036607 670073 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nocin for short < 1422036618 568284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren there's this thing where to communicate with people you have to use a language both of you understand < 1422036638 95829 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinnamon sounds like synonym < 1422036657 996778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I figured that out after I decided that you were making answering your question sufficiently difficult that I didn't care to :P < 1422036743 597148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: very eloquent use of stuff 'n things there, dude < 1422036760 876012 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422036775 253179 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway the language has no syntax or grammar, it takes a stream of abstract 'symbols' which are currently implemented as words but could be subsituted < 1422036824 197046 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Words are failing me to express how eloquent I'm feeling today.") < 1422036872 83311 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea was to produce a "core" to which several syntaces could be converted < 1422036928 784370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :Eloquent Cinnamon | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1422037026 993042 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Are those apple cores? Apples go well with cinnamon. < 1422037133 906372 :glguy!~glguy@unaffiliated/glguy PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com" < 1422037273 951509 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for example, the "english math" syntax i am working on could be seamlessly exchanged for a "chinese" syntax < 1422037301 129100 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interpreter would not need to know < 1422037434 894299 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maker of code that needs to interoperate would need to provide symbol bindings for the new syntax though < 1422037521 873130 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422037531 402778 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fallback symbol bindings are just numbers < 1422037836 417976 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422038301 846687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that sort of syntactic translation was something cyclexa was meant to do < 1422038311 846600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I decided cyclexa was probably beyond my abilities when I tried and failed to write a parser < 1422038388 248682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more recently, I realised that cyclexa has worrying similarities to Ursala's expression syntax < 1422038399 168986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both aimed at the same goal, and achieved it in much the same way < 1422038409 411276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the result is an unreadable mess, as is usual for esolangs < 1422038432 77759 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently i am only working on the backend < 1422038466 531949 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each frontend can have arbitrary code which provides the symbol stream < 1422038572 274402 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default syntax (a series of words which are codes for symbols) would be pretty unreadable < 1422038683 789478 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422038727 653146 :SuperJedi224!32cf2bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.207.43.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422038741 538068 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422038792 478265 :SuperJedi224!32cf2bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.207.43.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest test >++[-.]<(>)*9([(-)*8[+].]+>)*4(<)*4(<--<++)*4<--(>(+)*17>(-)*17)*4(>)*6(>[(+)*8[-].]>[(-)*8[+].])*-1 < 1422038792 952567 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SuperJedi224.test: points -0.98, score 20.22, rank 19/47 < 1422038819 163346 :SuperJedi224!32cf2bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.207.43.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust Hyper >++[-.]<(>)*9([(-)*8[+].]+>)*4(<)*4(<--<++)*4<--(>(+)*17>(-)*17)*4(>)*6(>[(+)*8[-].]>[(-)*8[+].])*-1 < 1422038820 19330 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SuperJedi224.Hyper: points -0.98, score 20.22, rank 19/47 < 1422038853 241215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is zemhill still broken? < 1422038868 620422 :SuperJedi224!32cf2bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.207.43.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know, it seems to be working. < 1422038889 293664 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :array make set A number one push A set 1 < 1422038918 967531 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops. set one < 1422038935 962015 :SuperJedi224!32cf2bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.207.43.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have a limit of 47 programs on the list at a time though. < 1422039038 935948 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1422039296 97867 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1422039300 763430 :SuperJedi224!32cf2bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.207.43.222 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1422039648 338188 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1422039878 609007 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1422039910 797531 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422040076 352613 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1422040125 855875 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422040131 986587 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1422040132 139821 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422040178 935277 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-187.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1422040216 369139 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-187.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1422040216 577110 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1422040321 400402 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1422040348 800005 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1422040470 61732 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422040619 803195 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422040802 783392 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422040811 657131 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 2^256 large enough for the maximum number of variable names < 1422040886 762306 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :54 letters < 1422040896 442212 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1422040898 559518 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, could be better < 1422040952 397176 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long are variable names allowed to be in C < 1422041037 711861 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... or should i just do bignums and to hell with it < 1422041147 168402 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1422041199 131265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I upgraded the things. You know, those things. < 1422041207 560370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So it's possible it has gotten fixed. < 1422041214 207279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: On the other hand, it's also possible it's not. < 1422041267 154875 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a test sweet for zemhill? < 1422041296 798808 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422041406 130893 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1422041602 594712 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1422041718 730285 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1422041754 471822 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1422041793 556860 :booly-yam-6445_!~cinch@bzq-79-183-25-208.red.bezeqint.net QUIT :K-Lined < 1422042136 627222 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1422042316 294691 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422042347 268744 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1422042499 287589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1422042650 825253 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: *sigh* heavenly nostrils started out great but now it's full of reruns, sigh. < 1422042690 65141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I dunno, I think either it didn't really start out great, or I just can't help thinking of Ozy and Millie with nostalgia < 1422042697 599396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see only the recycled jokes in Heavenly Nostrils < 1422042704 177706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, did it really get renamed? < 1422042726 493214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, apparently. I'd never heard of it before you brought it up. < 1422042747 5722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I didn't think of Ozy and Millie, but of Calvin and Hobbes. Of course that's not coincidence... < 1422042749 495194 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go back and read http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/comic/millie/ < 1422042784 435767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ozy and Millie is the obvious comparision because it's by the same author (Dana) and of similar style < 1422042841 620901 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I didn't make the connection. < 1422042874 368186 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless, Bill Watterson has been a great influence on Dana. < 1422042888 932791 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: certainly < 1422042894 357236 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422042894 510488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least one explicit reference < 1422042920 462188 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/comic/millie/comic?n=20000713 < 1422042956 832231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bleh < 1422042970 214991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for the original papers defining system F (two authors found it independently) < 1422042986 537258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is /probably/ Jean-Yves Girard's thesis, but all the online copies seem to be corrupted < 1422042999 615113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too short and end "foo..bar" as a nonsequitur, I suspect there are problems earlier too < 1422043016 361269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I find it hard to follow because my French isn't all that perfect < 1422043048 140339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://i.imgur.com/PhP80yD.gif is the most blatant one in Heavenly Nostrils. < 1422043398 15051 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1422044405 51533 :oren!~oren@user3-221-53.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1422045591 908324 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1422045796 451336 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1422046487 376906 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1422046788 250146 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1422048255 525639 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422048573 212608 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422049161 95763 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1422049492 959765 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1422050861 242456 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1422050889 708365 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: welp, see you later. < 1422050898 573548 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1422050993 4012 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1422051021 75726 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1422052580 408213 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, what? 17:26 . . Ehird (Talk | contribs) blocked Ehird (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 10 minutes (autoblock disabled) ‎(useless admin) < 1422052597 997544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a useless sysop who blocks the wrong people and I deserve punishment < 1422052681 381567 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422052788 987390 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1422053066 63739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1422053271 733678 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mistakes were made and mended. nobody got hurt. much. < 1422053557 968324 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1422053715 258744 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422053891 557104 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have spent an hour listening to Julius Fucik. I forget why. < 1422053941 43163 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, that should be Fučík < 1422053949 948539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't fucikng know :D < 1422053951 383016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. < 1422053970 506032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. helliott. < 1422053991 49790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is helliott anything like a hellion < 1422053995 233334 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wrote the famous circus music "entry of the gladiators" < 1422054022 180800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to helloily, behold the devoily? < 1422054078 282590 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you consider yourself to be a Hell Creature? do you thrive in flames? < 1422054082 204877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to be oily < 1422054088 518681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. < 1422054095 896851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tbh I'm more of an... uh < 1422054098 704903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know about Heavenly Nostrils, but wasn't there already a third comic before that which repeated Ozy & Millie jokes? < 1422054103 404926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck I forget crawl demons. let's say neqoxec < 1422054105 460618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however you spell it < 1422054117 763521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's another one of the 3s I like the name of though < 1422054124 22806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it isn't a 3 any more. I think they changed them around again < 1422054128 214607 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's spelled like that. I tend to avoid neqoxec unless I can strike them before they do. < 1422054144 821500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what're the 1s called. what did fiend become again. god, I've forgotten so much < 1422054146 264975 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played dcss in quite some time. I got sidetracked by some cubes. and more cubes. < 1422054155 725581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even play until after they renamed fiend but all I can remember is fiend < 1422054160 309091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's hell sentinels but what's the fiery 1 < 1422054172 240207 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they renamed the fiends? blasphemy! < 1422054172 512164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brimstone fiend. that's it < 1422054178 52358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no see brimstone fiend used to just be < 1422054180 564277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiend. with a capital F < 1422054187 150753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, the numbers demons were on used to make no sense whatsoever < 1422054187 304245 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot do I hate the fiends. < 1422054187 457433 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's why i have to cross when the stars can hear us? did you see his 48 years would only be given to me all the dresses. < 1422054198 495403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2s are... reapers, tormentors, hellions, what else < 1422054206 383012 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're talking about even older dcss than I remember. < 1422054211 290771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lorocyproca maybe < 1422054214 624986 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... hell beasts are 2s also, I think. < 1422054218 750598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1422054220 223710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they 2s < 1422054226 257025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like big yaks < 1422054226 729648 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the loroes. background noise. < 1422054237 727303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yaks. the trampling Y < 1422054239 47250 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big death yaks from hell, but nothing to worry about. < 1422054283 646195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4s I don't know. there's like red demon and orange demon and other crap nobody cares about < 1422054298 175898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5s is uh. ufetubi, imps, ?? other things ?? < 1422054305 582017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one really useless one that does nothing. or maybe that's just ufetubi < 1422054314 29032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi this is a channel about dungeon crawl stone soup now < 1422054351 309480 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 5s are annoying when they're spawned by ynoxinules. < 1422054367 801561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ynoxinuls have the loveliest name <3 those are a 3, right < 1422054368 844412 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it ynoxinuls? demonic plurals are hard.) < 1422054370 268796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about them < 1422054375 528978 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. 3. < 1422054384 911408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl has some really good names < 1422054392 820988 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the sixfirhys. they're unusual. < 1422054400 505868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kikubaaqudgha, ereshkigal, oh yes sixfirhys < 1422054402 371733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or sixfirhies. damned plurals.) < 1422054404 437854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sixfirhies? < 1422054441 745259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:07:18 sixfirhy[5/5]: Occurs halfway between 6:00 and 7:00 < 1422054443 887158 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fun of planning a raid against a unique &... < 1422054460 624749 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms. aaaaaaaaaurgh.
< 1422054469 614397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ereshkigal isn't a name from crawl but whatever < 1422054473 10149 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vile puns in dcss's lore... < 1422054474 832473 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1422054479 320437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not lore, that's just learndb :p < 1422054487 527636 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it inspired from some babylonian divinity? < 1422054490 345361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever played crawl 4.1.2a < 1422054494 330228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should try it sometime < 1422054499 370029 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lore, learndb, HackEgo... 'tis all the same. < 1422054512 321550 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the Original pre-dcss version? < 1422054520 768161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uh < 1422054537 399029 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1422054538 14713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a never-finished alpha version of dcss after linley gave up on it but before dcss happened < 1422054554 398156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's incredibly unbalanced and unplayable and has only been won once in the decade-ish it's existed < 1422054561 563490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is also my favourite version of carwl. < 1422054562 610292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl. < 1422054582 97846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, n7 won 4.1?? < 1422054583 533429 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quand même. < 1422054585 148478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it's been won twice < 1422054617 881818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't believe I missed that < 1422054679 135400 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be the only guy left who misses the Hive branch. < 1422054696 123720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you are < 1422054699 924064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.1 has it though! < 1422054704 439830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.1 has eeeeeeverything < 1422054737 298609 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome... to 4.1... you can do anything... on 4.1... < 1422054771 321056 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1422054921 553426 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip98-177-176-240.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422054932 467844 :CrazyM4n_!~CrazyM4n@ip98-177-176-240.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422054979 638786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm glad we could have this talk < 1422055096 634024 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :samely. < 1422055120 269491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please feel free to continue saying things about popular roguelike game dungeon crawl stone soup < 1422055286 361570 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still remember my login infos. time to Gloriously Die in a Creative Manner! < 1422055293 109673 :CrazyM4n_!~CrazyM4n@ip98-177-176-240.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1422055314 852320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1422055315 785248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which server < 1422055316 518069 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(huh. I had a game, and I'm in Zot:4...) < 1422055318 824159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAO. < 1422055319 642115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1422055326 301388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i gotta see this splat < 1422055329 424492 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. BANZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI! < 1422055334 447152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your name < 1422055344 201575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1422055346 632627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this hugeterm :/ < 1422055363 483271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make your terminal 80x24 so I don't have to buy a new monitor < 1422055383 434117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally taller than my screen < 1422055403 168811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice vorpal war axe in zot, btw < 1422055437 329493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily can you ^F axe for me < 1422055442 917161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has to be a better axe just lying around in the dungeon somewhere < 1422055468 601150 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 80x24es...
< 1422055528 883513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, that should do the trick. < 1422055544 941284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exactly the same actually :p < 1422055562 552233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though you need to get a new axe < 1422055565 53374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much axes skill do you have < 1422055587 307776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you have 27 < 1422055596 755682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily can you ^F executioner's axe, and then failing that ^F battleaxe < 1422055605 102940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pick up literally any one of them and it will be so much better than the weapon you're currently using < 1422055625 766795 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a moment... < 1422055633 132678 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... < 1422055639 243939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go get that draining one blessed at a TSO altar < 1422055641 347655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can use it < 1422055646 302672 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's it, a feather duster? < 1422055646 603391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your weapon is so, so bad :( < 1422055651 923198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a war axe < 1422055653 781273 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh... < 1422055670 416856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also just never use shields and axes :p < 1422055670 625745 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, oooooh...) < 1422055674 204652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ftr, I know nothing about the game) < 1422055677 827398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that's good < 1422055700 351655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :executioner's might be better but eh this has a nice brand and you're not going to bother fetching the executioner's one anyway < 1422055704 375516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: me neither < 1422055719 422547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: could've fooled me < 1422055719 621257 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: besides, I can't really executioner that one, it has draining. < 1422055733 368810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I said I'm pretty sure you can override that by blessing it at a TSO altar < 1422055740 129937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you get a holy's executioner axe and kick yourself for not doing extended < 1422055748 431723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you've uh, already done extended with a war axe < 1422055762 752549 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I haven't extended yet. < 1422055775 333450 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I could TSO the fungot out of that axe. < 1422055775 486812 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's no need for you! tell me? oh, you're late! < 1422055782 298816 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, there is a need! < 1422055782 452596 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cloud!! sure is cold. < 1422055788 558360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are you doing zot before extended < 1422055793 78861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else why are you with TSO I guess < 1422055812 480880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably annoying. do people want me to take this to another channel < 1422055841 847056 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not at all. < 1422055850 158525 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I knew "TSO" looked familiar, it's a Thread State Object. < 1422055856 614472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1422055881 715324 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had plans a long time ago. probably going to wrap up that game and start something else. DD is interesting, but I want to go for the new classes and races and gods and everything. < 1422055903 368819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please promise me you'll never use a war axe in zot ever again < 1422055958 784763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that this is the orb chamber you might wanna heal < 1422055972 227902 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I so can use a war axe in zot! common sense be damned! < 1422055993 791941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you should recharge your healing wand) < 1422056022 318996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so glad "p"eople happened < 1422056032 832173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that might have been my idea < 1422056098 562592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw your war axe at it < 1422056099 48441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1422056099 201543 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7* fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1422056099 432302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't) < 1422056166 993536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you hit 5 all the time when playing DD to rest off the HP you can't < 1422056169 371305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I sure do < 1422056172 582617 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about that fine and dandy axe stays in my own hands... < 1422056174 568605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I just don't play DD. or crawl < 1422056202 714778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to teleport out of the orb chamber for fun and profit < 1422056206 323266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please say yes < 1422056264 9275 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I'm going to teleport like a madman. < 1422056284 360174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh at this rate you're going to attract every monster on the level before you get the orb < 1422056288 916555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're about to die < 1422056300 538962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be uh < 1422056304 190729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing something other than what you're doing < 1422056307 985964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :orb guardians are faster than you < 1422056309 968387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1422056332 179499 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :death happens. time to roll something! < 1422056344 944777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admire your spirit but not your play < 1422056355 603755 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for not surviving. I couldn't remember my whole character at once. < 1422056362 366990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing is made to be played. < 1422056402 509739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play cecj of chei < 1422056414 743242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1422056418 636087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go chei and find a conj book please < 1422056440 111045 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, did or did not boily die? < 1422056448 321702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily died and then started a new game < 1422056455 956617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a very silly, avoidable death :P < 1422056461 416274 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1422056464 649415 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my second win was through chei. < 1422056472 278444 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we hate the unavoidable kind, it lacks hilarity < 1422056473 753795 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know. the appeal of something else was strong. < 1422056474 960973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I noticed you played a mifi of chei < 1422056478 645133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure why < 1422056487 61182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun! :D < 1422056493 515363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. I'm happy for you < 1422056527 941521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you play nethack or something, right? < 1422056579 260445 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tried, died, gave up < 1422056602 319421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay < 1422056608 24805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had you mentally filed as roguelike player for some reason < 1422056624 672361 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I found the wiki, so I know what "TSO" stands for now. < 1422056630 132481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki is very bad < 1422056637 315320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very, very bad < 1422056637 505221 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait. did you just tell me to play a cecj? of chei??? < 1422056643 24065 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a bit about RPGs and dungeon crawls by osmosis. < 1422056645 976288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. < 1422056665 185778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html#tso <- more useful than the wiki < 1422056672 515233 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :call me unaquainted with the game and some random neophyte, but isn't it really, really bad? < 1422056694 82529 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-152-253.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1422056708 751513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well centaur isn't the worst chei race by far < 1422056712 513857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it's a lot better than mifi of chei... < 1422056715 867829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember centaur magic apts though < 1422056726 118236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably cecj of chei is just painful at first and then good and painful < 1422056729 203688 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mifi of chei is just plain ridiculous in the endgame. < 1422056739 378166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is mifi of anything else but it isn't slow < 1422056744 581840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they fix centaur hunger yet >_> < 1422056751 169124 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they did? < 1422056764 489933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can play cene of xom that's a classic < 1422056767 234520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of xom, < 1422056778 857705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't play naga of chei ;_; < 1422056787 757353 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA! < 1422056792 439312 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, probably going vehumet or sif. < 1422056798 602067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god < 1422056839 367458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice D:1 boring beetle...? < 1422056859 170319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just avoid it, but... what abad monster placement < 1422056866 683299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a bad < 1422056894 152639 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot is a boring beetle doing on D:1... < 1422056894 338611 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but, something strange just crashed into our truck! < 1422056894 670017 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and why can't I z-a-f...) < 1422056906 78977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh maybe you ran out of MP or something < 1422056919 556864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't stand next to a boring beetle on D:1. < 1422056939 264633 :adu!~ajr@2601:a:4900:407::10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1422056940 56600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bought Google Cardboard
< 1422056940 536392 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. I was curious. < 1422056946 31060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1422057001 229349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should play crawl again < 1422057034 581762 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably eat... < 1422057085 883399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, is the fun over < 1422057185 595566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a people origami project? "Join the fold"... < 1422057206 828192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did ... err ... google for it. So I'm joking.) < 1422057214 602166 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. time to satiate the thing shaped like me. < 1422057224 357273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many things shaped like you are there < 1422057236 160423 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's a voodoo doll shaped like you and it has to be fed? < 1422057272 120209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mirrors are mean duplicators < 1422057318 906652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh that reminds me: why do mirrors swap left and right but not up and down?) < 1422057333 990455 :hoosieree!~hoosieree@99-38-162-71.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1422057347 186746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: actual question, or? < 1422057363 273860 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a puzzle. not a hard one. < 1422057364 467306 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if buying a Note 4 just for the VR experience would be worth it
< 1422057369 124761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods.
< 1422057370 162499 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want a new phone sometime soon < 1422057391 790215 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that'd be useful to have a nice voodoo doll. I could scratch myself in all the nice parts without dislocating my shoulders. < 1422057422 138429 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all the nice part" < 1422057427 892335 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+s < 1422057508 30973 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say, mean, or imply nothing, you pervert. < 1422057527 592623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to eating :p < 1422057562 932825 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you could've said "hard to reach" and things would've been just fine... < 1422057574 360967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION digs deeper.
< 1422057594 304856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there has to be a treasure down here somewhere!)