< 1423180901 326918 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilyha < 1423181114 830412 :Lilax|away!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423181136 244540 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :borensoir! < 1423181148 335760 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :お元気ですか < 1423181230 489455 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :はい、元気です! < 1423181362 7300 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :オォォォォッ!あちらも日本語IMEで書けています!すごい! < 1423181367 776665 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423181443 660940 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :天気はどうですか ここにはもっとも寒い(>_<) < 1423181521 427258 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ここも寒い。冬はもうおわんない < 1423181553 313921 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423181589 520443 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :そうですね < 1423181606 493196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this channel may have entered the matrix, there are all these strange symbols < 1423181632 557564 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellオrjan! < 1423181676 844350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless this is zalgo, see today's sromg (NSFL) < 1423181692 692962 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a sromg? < 1423181705 329555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :square root of minus garfield < 1423181714 605611 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1423181771 884292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mezzacotta / david morgan mar's collaborative garfield parody comic < 1423181851 356085 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ギャアア!その漫画は怖いよ!  < 1423181854 68274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just added a dinosaur comic collaborative fan comic, so now i'm reading that without reading dinosaur comic itself... < 1423181878 52420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s, possibly < 1423181885 633593 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: 何を読んでいますか < 1423181922 156961 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much better is the fan comic than the original? < 1423181935 735507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :そのSROMG漫画を読んでいます < 1423181937 685679 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obscure webcomics are obscure for a reason. < 1423181945 274498 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to find dinosaur comics funny for some time now < 1423181960 406231 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't that funny < 1423181964 593301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hm, in that case probably a lot < 1423181995 304401 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: わかります 僕は読まないんだよ < 1423182024 234711 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hellolsner. they were supposed to be funny? < 1423182038 758120 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what else could they be supposed to be? < 1423182056 323132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought today's fan comic was funny, anyway < 1423182095 269148 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite webcomic (in English) is "Basic Instructions" < 1423182098 11301 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: philosophical? reflective? introspective? < 1423182111 125298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/web// < 1423182132 596552 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dinosaurs < 1423182149 784013 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still a thorough fan of xkcd. < 1423182166 854174 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: a fortunate incident. < 1423182201 568452 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dinosaur < 1423182203 581097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1423182233 31409 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote strosaur < 1423182233 813416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1423182239 500866 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin wéyons... < 1423182249 231854 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1423182249 736336 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boily < 1423182250 203683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1423182250 382727 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :918) boily: the man eating chicken is just a normal man, it's quite common to eat chicken in some parts of the world \ 919) ~eval 1+2 Error (127): this is a great bot boily i love it \ 928) not only there is no God, but try to find an APL keyboard on Sunday. \ 931) ais523: I'm not sure my < 1423182273 201330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lystrosaur < 1423182275 494671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. < 1423182276 313506 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(huh. I thought there were l[iy]strosaurs somewhere in oerjan's `?...) < 1423182280 957761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423182283 744817 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thoerjan. < 1423182300 172092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i guess you just associated on "evil" hth < 1423182315 684809 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: naturally. < 1423182339 283902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION denies being a lystrosaur recently awakened from stasis < 1423182352 833892 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is an evil overlord, lystrosaurs were evil and took over the world => became overlords, everything matches up < 1423182366 912756 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :denial doesn't make it not so < 1423182371 341313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear elizabeth II might be one, though < 1423182393 700850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lizzy the lizard < 1423182451 382963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose lystrosaurs were also antediluvian < 1423182477 821568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and roald dahl wrote books about defeating evil monsters, so they'd naturally hate him. < 1423182490 213214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, a surprising amount of matches there < 1423183934 395238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1423184266 645537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423185454 113290 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.77.236 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1423185456 539831 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1423187003 109601 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423187058 797522 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423187073 298503 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423187673 518439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :home again home again jiggity jig < 1423187787 536597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! :D < 1423187845 562027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in real life i'd still be at work < 1423187871 347849 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'd already be in bed half an hour from now when i got home < 1423187954 435810 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real life is an illusion. and besides, this chännel entered the matrix a few hours ago. < 1423188062 27563 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're back home? have you enjoyed your trip? < 1423188070 398896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, the strange symbols seem to have disappeared < 1423188086 80504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pain of spain < 1423188110 687494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mainly in the plane < 1423188295 222835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apparently I shouldn't try to send email during a distro upgrade < 1423188309 638332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the email editor in Evolution has no send button < 1423188316 782638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I try to close the compose window < 1423188371 90543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it puts up a dialog box with an information icon and no text < 1423188456 735150 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't worry. the next swarm will strike when you least expect it. < 1423188464 599252 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which distro? < 1423188487 757027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu < 1423188594 174250 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange... < 1423189066 920745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trip was good < 1423189075 666437 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :never got to try orxata tho < 1423189084 450959 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a winter thing, they say < 1423189809 768656 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is winter... < 1423189837 115720 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1423189849 743551 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MOXIBUSTIVE CHICKEN < 1423189863 120793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn moxibustive < 1423189864 387502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "moxibustive". < 1423189875 423842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google moxibustive < 1423189876 60015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1423189889 15199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE'S JUST PLAYING WITH US < 1423189898 744574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, the distro upgrader seems to have crashed < 1423189932 55397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn moxibustion < 1423189933 105080 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "moxibustion". < 1423189943 212560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google moxibustion < 1423189943 845179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxibustion < 1423189944 6733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Moxibustion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1423189960 456728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn word < 1423189961 718628 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "word" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1423189961 879433 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :word < 1423189961 879571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a unit of language that native speakers can identify; < 1423189961 879647 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "words are the blocks from which sentences are made"; "he < 1423189961 879720 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : hardly said ten words all morning" < 1423189963 765358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[24 @more lines] < 1423189976 476478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my response was to kill dpkg, it seems to be continuing now, at least < 1423189987 516523 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.65.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423189998 356855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've restored Ubuntu from a broken distro upgrade before now < 1423190002 641794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but prefer it when I don't have to < 1423190023 829374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope that whatever package it didn't install isn't essential for the computer to boot < 1423190384 184658 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423190825 722034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423191465 627600 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423191545 894813 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423194293 923944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, about to reboot into the new distro < 1423194301 332147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done the best I can to manually fix things < 1423194305 850274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here goes... < 1423194307 724698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1423194328 993363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. < 1423194493 384327 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.65.41 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1423194596 352753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423194621 374319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I think it worked < 1423194648 798946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge number of crash reports, but I think all of them were either caused by a bug in ocaml-doc, or indirectly from my kill -9 dpkg during the upgrade < 1423194785 578727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous last words < 1423194842 449555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, famous last words would be me before the reboot < 1423194888 885324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot help it, i'm reading the tvtropes untwist page < 1423194940 551753 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous first words < 1423195361 163877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, the unity dash still has terrible performance < 1423195364 464329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not quite as bad < 1423195371 387973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only takes like 5 seconds to open rather than like 15 < 1423195523 592340 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423195667 512008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/terrible/triple/ < 1423195984 952445 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1423196113 218654 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1423196164 318468 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423196737 531345 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's why I switched to Xubuntu < 1423196807 335420 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, also because I like windows and hate mac, and i hate how everyone wants to be an iphone now < 1423197041 282319 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423197272 290700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to be an iphone hth < 1423197315 8133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also don't want to be a lumberjack. (nothing wrong with lumberjacks, they're okay.) < 1423197349 984814 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423197355 140469 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahah < 1423197358 11825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heolus < 1423197374 539969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what evil plans dost thou laugh about < 1423197510 784856 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I truly don't know < 1423197554 269118 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a headache earlier and I dun know maybe I'm just wantin' to laugh < 1423197596 872732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is good to practice one's evil cackling < 1423197691 658385 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-+- < 1423197698 32492 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how's you < 1423197718 349325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still addicted to 30x30 Bridges < 1423197758 925123 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1423197778 908835 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, So I made a self modifying encryption key for my bot < 1423197784 813466 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I am proud of me self < 1423197797 578736 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it breaks every other day ;--; < 1423197828 976641 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm soooo sorry. < 1423197838 333087 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone die? < 1423197852 911221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to make it _remember_ that you modified it hth < 1423197867 95541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the 30x30 Bridges is int-e's fault < 1423197882 58114 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1423197886 214054 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1423197913 710553 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you did retaliate however, by pointing me to yet another webcomic. < 1423197928 199904 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol webcomics and oerjan < 1423197956 946946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, which one < 1423197958 195341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, Rice Boy) < 1423197960 582186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1423197971 607259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i learned about rice boy on this channel, i think < 1423198027 885795 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423198149 862346 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1423198162 720892 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh mai < 1423198219 456800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mai wat < 1423198237 119456 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MAI < 1423198242 172210 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wat < 1423198268 574407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kom mai du skjønne milde < 1423198319 952744 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non < 1423198345 257943 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://puu.sh/fxhxd/9833c39b67.gif < 1423198400 207546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1423198422 665581 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1423198561 113087 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yy/mm/dd < 1423198611 705795 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eolus: You're so || close to failing the Turing test. < 1423198677 377369 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1423198687 376762 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats int-e < 1423198696 478810 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea who you are ^_^ < 1423199008 246630 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :neildegrasse_ok_well.gif < 1423199327 546764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wait are you saying Eolus has been a bot all along < 1423199624 126616 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :osaka_oh_mai_gaa.m4a < 1423199760 163477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, of course not. stop reading between the lines! < 1423199844 277298 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423199874 47514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well i have to do it to keep passing the turing test < 1423199907 169347 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eolus: the correct format for dates, btw is YYYY-MM-DD < 1423199924 458543 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe YYYY.MM.DD < 1423199944 722361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's yy/dd/mmmm < 1423199955 242930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 15/06/0002 < 1423199990 770740 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xkcd.com/1179/ < 1423200033 445254 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, there should be a standard for where and how to put the weekday < 1423200086 977344 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1423200093 236835 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea is to do 2015-02F06 < 1423200126 202143 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With letters MTWRFSU for the weekdays < 1423200149 544926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that it is one idea. < 1423200222 556779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ISO has that. < 1423200222 756783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-02-06 is 2015-W05-5 < 1423200231 98606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-W06-5 < 1423200231 272580 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423200237 980936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1423200239 994182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says W06 < 1423200257 411339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oren: < 1423200257 642345 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. In japan they do Y年M月D日(W) < 1423200262 882944 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :orgh. < 1423200267 81604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cal 1 2015 < 1423200268 7003 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks, you're right. < 1423200268 607304 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ January 2015 \ Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa \ 1 2 3 \ 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 \ 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 \ 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 \ 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 < 1423200277 346942 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` date +%Y-W%V-%u < 1423200278 268068 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-W06-5 < 1423200301 719260 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :date has a few too many of those week number and day of week format strings. < 1423200343 876842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so it includes the short week? < 1423200378 212853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is officially a week of the previous year < 1423200389 244326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no < 1423200404 250955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. note that the ISO week is from Mo to Su, so that's 4 days in 2015. < 1423200408 912998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts listing on Su < 1423200415 818041 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said I was doing dates? < 1423200418 463027 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1423200426 969388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eolus: so you prefer figs? < 1423200428 848973 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eolus: this channel isn't about you. < 1423200452 583891 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to your cupboard < 1423200557 606177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eolus: please be more polite. < 1423200562 371545 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, %Y is also wrong. < 1423200572 337521 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats oerjan < 1423200577 542832 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sir < 1423200591 443303 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` date +%G-W%V-%u -d2016-01-01 < 1423200592 328427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-W53-5 < 1423200968 899713 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423201031 82708 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LC_TIME=jp_JA.utf8 ; date < 1423201031 894076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (jp_JA.utf8): No such file or directory \ Fri Feb 6 05:37:09 UTC 2015 < 1423201041 58387 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LC_TIME=jp_JA ; date < 1423201041 965538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (jp_JA): No such file or directory \ Fri Feb 6 05:37:19 UTC 2015 < 1423201049 50522 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1423201332 960247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` TZ=Japan date < 1423201336 465388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fri Feb 6 14:42:14 JST 2015 < 1423201338 96367 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the japanese notation has the advantage that each part of the date is clearly labeled, making an order irrelevant < 1423201394 628072 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015年2月6日(金) < 1423201478 745553 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1423201547 863264 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effectivley the advantage is the same as assigned arguments for a function call < 1423201667 610183 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423201718 867599 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1423202290 404730 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423203513 260252 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423204196 221736 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423204286 71058 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you are clearly missing Chinese. < 1423204301 253084 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Chinese the weekday is numbered < 1423204565 314895 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423204738 303826 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423204979 312389 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423205743 476473 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ni ni < 1423206110 606440 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423206862 915756 :Eolus!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1423207316 371175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423207848 823694 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423207996 966919 :arjanb!8259aaa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.170.163 QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1423208193 403864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ni nite < 1423208959 306712 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1423210384 986211 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1423210929 425650 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423211412 376100 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423213144 466013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: breakfast < 1423214764 237468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423215353 881263 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sortie < 1423215358 639578 :sortie!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1423216141 140604 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423216151 573916 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423216164 581479 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423216171 383219 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1423216291 388093 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423216404 651850 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-111.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1423216705 165159 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423217023 175283 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423217609 703466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41854&oldid=40843 5* 03Elboza 5* (+213) 10/* Notable implementations */ < 1423217726 453903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41855&oldid=41791 5* 03Elboza 5* (+213) 10/* Normal implementations */ < 1423217802 71027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423218086 346754 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing mutation feels so wrong now ... < 1423219098 262857 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423219409 298613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41856&oldid=41854 5* 03Ais523 5* (-213) 10Undo revision 41854 by [[Special:Contributions/Elboza|Elboza]] ([[User talk:Elboza|talk]]) this shouldn't be on both lists, and this one is the wrong one < 1423220546 317352 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1423220546 478034 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1423220965 34726 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1423221337 950618 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423221365 220914 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423221680 845603 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423223707 467520 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423223802 379475 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423223830 799055 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423223846 846003 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423223906 386268 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ropyzgkgrrdqfumr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423223989 451463 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423224009 388333 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423224043 209155 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1423224066 365528 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423224080 373480 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jotkunyvovchxlph JOIN :#esoteric < 1423224100 109216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 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*.split < 1423225150 762614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423225150 923730 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wavbduzwdophkwbi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423225150 923786 :rsal!rsal@82.128.138.2 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423225151 85079 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423225258 704061 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903296 :intgr!~ftw@wikipedia/intgr JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903357 :rsal!rsal@82.128.138.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903413 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903521 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wavbduzwdophkwbi JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225258 903575 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1423225365 661776 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: THERAPEUTIC CHICKEN < 1423226073 261404 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423226244 925677 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423226296 9892 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1423226598 371702 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423227614 779818 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Officially learnt about the "Fundamental Theorem of Linear Transformations" today < 1423227645 719349 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems very similar to what I know as the "Fundamental Theorem of Group Homomorphisms" < 1423227668 3047 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both are S/Ker(phi) ~= Im(phi) < 1423227672 978822 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something deeper going on? < 1423227814 674085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423227868 281740 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423227869 935119 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423227910 877712 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1423227930 913572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure, a vector space is a group, and all vector space homomorphisms are group homomorphisms as well (but not the reverse) < 1423227943 575159 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not really "something deeper" I guess < 1423227952 33168 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, but a vector space has more conditions than a group < 1423227959 529287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, so? < 1423227972 689541 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not all group homomorphisms end up as linear transformations < 1423227992 204763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1423228017 697715 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1423228018 651450 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1423228237 365777 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423228253 297618 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423228621 682172 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieHomework < 1423228968 333498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423229253 239544 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423229435 2385 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1423230429 420340 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was under the impression that that was what category theory was for, though I don't know enough category theory to verify that < 1423230562 777803 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1423230650 401546 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423230685 884262 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423230856 475756 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423232154 209241 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423232975 290446 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423233450 313171 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423233720 57053 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423234835 339865 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423235759 272158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1423235823 412461 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423237555 420699 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423238121 176752 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1423238126 893943 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just reread the end of IWC backwards < 1423238139 398923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot quite stop quibbling about the Typeable bug < 1423238170 261611 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423238199 483259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so it's about several groups of people falling from prosperity, through great disaster, and into a continued life of trouble and chaos? < 1423238222 249669 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it made me realise that Choking may in fact be DMM < 1423238291 642484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1423238301 481767 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... hang on < 1423238306 607797 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMM's body and Hitler's brain < 1423238350 316370 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://irregularwebcomic.net/3147.html http://irregularwebcomic.net/3158.html http://irregularwebcomic.net/3165.html < 1423238394 654185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1423238446 102470 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423238478 413637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1423238495 527981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _does_ look deliberate indeed. < 1423238628 101967 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423238656 429422 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to reread IWC < 1423239059 371498 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423239158 412378 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423239211 214327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? no way < 1423239222 525908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMM is present as a self-insert in IWC and he's not the same as Choking < 1423239235 378454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he time travels and almost kills himself or something < 1423239646 868045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's actually hitler who is the same as choking < 1423239649 303862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1423239664 686178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's not "almost" about it. < 1423239668 565495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-t < 1423239791 391619 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you all regular fans of iwc? < 1423239806 733315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1423239811 516451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1423239838 760557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the first webcomic i read, and i learned about it on this channel. < 1423239864 778408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb and b_jonas traveled in the opposite direction :P < 1423239986 253489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it was my first webcomic, and eventually got me into esolangs and actually CS as a whole < 1423239989 579804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to like IWC but got bored around the 2700 strips mark. < 1423240029 899180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there something deeper going on? <-- yes. there are versions of those theorems for universal algebras. < 1423240038 301652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first webcomic I read was StickManStickMan, now at http://stickman.qntm.org/index.php , which was already completed when I first read it < 1423240041 933367 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universal... algebra? < 1423240053 982353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1423240083 154670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: think of groups, monoids, rings, vector spaces etc. as all being special cases of operations on a set < 1423240117 126557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you mean K-vector spaces for a particular fixed field K? < 1423240125 7373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well yeah < 1423240135 49968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if _some_ of the operations give you a group, then you have kernels, and the theorems have essentially the same form. otherwise you need to use "congruences". < 1423240182 635228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise it's quite analogous regardless of the type of algebra. < 1423240220 833698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, and how much extra do you need for the form on finitely generated vector spaces, where you can also claim that the dimension of of the source space is equal to the dimension of the kernel plus the dimension of the image? < 1423240251 869899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ouch. that doesn't even hold for modules i think, so quite specific. < 1423240265 831996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :modules aren't always free and so don't have a basis. < 1423240288 133463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it's specific for vector spaces, but quite important < 1423240307 681595 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what happens in infinite dimensional spaces < 1423240318 637702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may be summarized as "all vector spaces are free" < 1423240327 738214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm not sure if that's enough < 1423240333 925587 :S1!~S1@p4FF92858.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423240365 750156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact there's probably a module counterexample about free submodules of free modules behaving nicely < 1423240388 693233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory of that stuff is old < 1423240398 298910 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't really have a sane dimension in modules < 1423240417 417699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even when finitely generated < 1423240467 772005 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite vector spaces supposedly have a basis and so they have a dimension, though I've never tried to understand the proof for this. It's an axiom of choice thing. < 1423240484 916134 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423240492 594246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it on faith. < 1423240504 232120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you seem to have become bored about when dmm started wrapping things up for the finale... < 1423240551 911063 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423240556 287910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423240623 666926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm not sure what happens in infinite dimensional spaces <-- i think it still holds as long as you sum cardinalities. of course you cannot subtract then. < 1423240632 358055 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1423240677 630080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah it's basically about using zorn's lemma to increase your independent set until it generates everything. < 1423240692 844274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing complicated, actually. < 1423240735 518834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it needs the big cannon < 1423240821 375224 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423240827 359325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, the zorn lemma isn't the big cannon. < 1423240830 409999 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1423240834 307615 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423240851 389742 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423240857 387761 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when the calculus guys use basic theorems whose proofs are really complicated, unlike that of the zorn lemma. < 1423240858 877726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then there's nothing complicated at all :P < 1423240869 991980 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah maybe he should've done that sooner then *ducks* < 1423240894 126795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423240898 38357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats int-e -----### < 1423240961 582454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, http://mathoverflow.net/a/99568/5340 states zorn lemma is big guns in the sense I claim it's not < 1423241182 544542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: anyway, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism_theorem#General < 1423241207 505390 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, aren't there two or three fundamental theorems? < 1423241228 839150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :three, see link < 1423241277 103827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one discussed here is the first < 1423241307 650703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, I don't think I want to do universal algebra directly, so let me look at the group ones, those I'll probably recognize < 1423241400 410657 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think I've heared of these for groups. < 1423241449 790446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank%E2%80%93nullity_theorem is the one about vector space dimensions < 1423241488 894924 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1423241540 971761 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423241591 513901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to link that < 1423241720 64128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get an intuition for the general, you need to understand that kernels/normal subgroups/ideals are all specific ways of encoding a congruence < 1423241725 702462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? isomorphism theorem < 1423241727 671329 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphism theorem? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1423241731 490811 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algebra < 1423241732 152097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algebra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1423241771 495218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, that's true < 1423241795 883123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need that to understand normal subgroups and ideals in rings in first place < 1423241839 851873 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, at least in the first case that's just stating the standard definition with slightly different terms < 1423241857 879129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423241859 81807 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno about the second and third because, well, who actually gives a shit about the second and third isomorphism theorems < 1423241859 504934 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe right ideals < 1423241869 595677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: what? they're useful < 1423241892 357837 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :even my galois theory lecturer didn't actually know them < 1423241913 313269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an excuse < 1423241919 753414 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :}{FISH} < 1423241949 727295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, defining a congruence as a subalgebra of A x A may be elegant, but maybe not the most pedagogic way. < 1423241975 198927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i agree with both of you, they're useful but i can only remember the first :P < 1423242021 379860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without straining my brain, anyhow < 1423242043 725703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you use them all the time without referring to them explicitly < 1423242044 226018 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second and third are useful properties of algebraic quotients; the first fundamentally encapsulates what algebraic quotients are < 1423242057 341895 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423242081 245874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, should be going -> < 1423242088 332383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1423242107 473977 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when i saw the thing about short exact sequences and quotients in hatcher it seemed like witchcraft, even though it's fairly simple < 1423242112 133572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the usual way algebra works < 1423242129 658649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423242453 298302 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can actually do a lot of things with ideals without understanding they have anything to do with congruences < 1423242486 57986 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qmbjubfgetricwih QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1423242590 918337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423242815 66916 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know that because I didn't) < 1423242871 514200 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423242893 716190 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thought: why are there so many brainfuck derivatives and so few Turing-machine derivatives on the wiki? < 1423243029 922790 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're basically the same thing, technically. < 1423243079 707733 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck with an endless tape is just a specific kind of turing machine, as is P''. < 1423243083 320347 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's my point! but Turing-machines are historically more relevant, and in my opinion, more fun < 1423243267 829974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very easy to compile brainfuck or P'' into Turing machines as each instruction would easily correspond to one state, although sometimes you can merge states < 1423243350 993765 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying < 1423243495 386805 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423243809 470578 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck is easier to derive something from < 1423243851 318812 :}{FISH}!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1423243872 449399 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean the reverse is also true. < 1423243898 308840 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any turing machine could be described in a way that makes it look like a Brainfuck derivative. < 1423243906 686264 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People just go with BF b/c rude. < 1423243925 398898 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also brainfuck is easy to understand for nonmathy people < 1423243972 818191 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is the ultimate simplification of the imperative, structured paradigm < 1423244023 952552 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P" is actually simpler. < 1423244030 958395 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1423244106 322404 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it does require that epople write ?. < 1423244113 38311 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but turing machines involve symbols and states and rules, where BF has numbers and characters in the code < 1423244120 981023 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which as you can see isn't even an ASCII character. < 1423244159 270382 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ? < 1423244160 864144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003F QUESTION MARK] < 1423244176 955855 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm... < 1423244179 445862 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lambda. < 1423244205 6266 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lamda: λ < 1423244277 31480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make the P'' version with ASCII though < 1423244363 882006 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Is it P" or P'' < 1423244389 238070 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P`` < 1423244399 402124 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's P~~ < 1423244404 478505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P^^ < 1423244406 278919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P|| < 1423244407 969519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P++ < 1423244409 682625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P-- < 1423244412 930854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P// < 1423244417 86099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1423244417 246883 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1423244417 408474 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1423244417 408626 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |\ < 1423244417 408702 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /< < 1423244418 43744 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nonmathy people" know what a decision tree is, and that looks exactly like an automaton < 1423244439 747169 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonmathy people probably don't care about this stuff < 1423244440 641436 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas ++++[-] doesn't look like much < 1423244450 94414 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very good point < 1423244521 212724 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: I mean people who are qualified to take Game Development 101 but not Game Theory 101 < 1423244527 441960 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :demathification < 1423244542 17836 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also by decision tree I probably meant flow chart) < 1423244549 218294 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1423244589 174358 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so? < 1423244607 878666 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A flow chart would more complex than a simple automaton. < 1423244612 598344 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I annoy the hell out of my dad by incessantly referring to my game development course as "Game Theory" < 1423244650 622101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1423244919 260834 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the course naming problems at UofT, the course that should be named "Operations Research" is named Algorithm Design, Analysis, and Complexity < 1423244936 90469 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I might not have been wrong < 1423245282 999648 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, Operations Research sounds like a course where you research military operations. < 1423245485 273707 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423245684 588041 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423245710 191979 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423246349 701431 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423246531 186341 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423246622 212642 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1423246630 107758 :arjanb!8259aaa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.170.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423247060 899940 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1423247546 529222 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1423247683 553369 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423247832 966495 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :Beself < 1423247849 724416 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1423247856 991882 :Beself!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1423248000 621070 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423248004 875766 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423248063 438644 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423248128 231293 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1423248148 403333 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krdsujkyssjsoubn JOIN :#esoteric < 1423248263 219748 :S1!~S1@p4FF92858.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1423248366 616499 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1423248767 249822 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423248866 444301 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423249054 669210 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423249603 493175 :oren!~oren@user3-210-99.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423250155 790080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to make up an orthodox Magic: the Puzzling where player 1 has a way to gain any amount of life, but only once, and they win if they can set their life total to a Collatz counterexample? < 1423250422 943480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And otherwise they cannot possibly win) < 1423250541 674022 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1423250615 891266 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423250662 455179 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1423250740 287508 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423251242 925314 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423251737 728011 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: welp, see you later. < 1423252312 380588 :rodgort!~rodgort@192.241.142.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423252619 183842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41857 5* 03Mihip 5* (+1672) 10Created page with "Wct is hex numeric system analog, but fully consists entirely of the letters. 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I was just thinking about writing a library for .js strings and then clicked here and now there's Squeak. < 1423264158 247460 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423264171 560358 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1423264391 289376 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about implementing string specific versions of the usual first-class functions, you know. So you could do like "string".map().filter() or whatever. < 1423264605 310455 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1423264674 361062 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423264674 680610 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423264677 341676 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423264682 899288 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423264794 581749 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure someone's already written that, but it would be a fun learning project. < 1423265404 852704 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423265448 490440 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1423265698 211536 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423265782 531494 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423265787 841652 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423265825 284312 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423265919 306968 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423266135 282481 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423266171 537106 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nqolithfmhoxdceg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423266451 891231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if the collatz counterexample can be one which grows indefinitely rather than looping, and if the win condition has to be detected in finite time, then i don't see how you can possibly distinguish that from a number that just takes a very long time to reach 1 < 1423266485 106435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i say this knowing very little about MtG) < 1423266522 936585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 if the collatz counterexample can be one which grows indefinitely rather than looping, and if the win condition has to be detected in finite time, then i don't see how you can possibly distinguish that from a number that just takes a very long time to reach 1 < 1423266523 136775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1423266809 297165 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.82.40 JOIN :#esoteric