< 1425168054 468605 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :11786 bytes fungot.dat file, sha1sum 836cb8a6797db5578498bfdb829cc321b76d0bea fungot.dat < 1425168054 739626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives me a "download" option, at least. < 1425168079 783302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :836cb matches. < 1425168103 979383 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1425168104 580662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If 7 hex digits is good enough for git, probably 5 is good enough for this. < 1425168128 950289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if that's the most recent version or not. < 1425168146 539434 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1425168193 637138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1425168193 929276 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 < 1425168200 465565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems very short. < 1425168207 989843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must've been an old version. But at least it worked. < 1425168224 600202 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 hello jbeyq < 1425168225 327105 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uryyb world < 1425168237 846969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it from ˜/src/fungot/data/fungot.dat on the laptop, because it was easier to boot than the actual fungot server and/or the desktop. < 1425168249 291066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Come on, even the ˜ is some freaky thing.) < 1425168260 820426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ < 1425168270 852453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ˜ < 1425168273 799967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+02DC SMALL TILDE] < 1425168279 251899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ~ < 1425168280 929325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+007E TILDE] < 1425168287 148196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a small device < 1425168303 215331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use ˜ if you have a strict quota on your home directory. < 1425168323 269575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is one of these "phablets", so it's not even that small. < 1425168327 658457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a Nexus 6.) < 1425168454 206641 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1425168481 888862 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, 7 hex digits is enough since no malice was involved here. but it was easier to copy the whole output :) < 1425168570 524683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is weird is that the fungot.dat I provided also has (some) empty lines in the first 10. < 1425168582 398018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my working hypothesis about empty lines, that shouldn't have worked. < 1425168605 526155 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1425168619 701565 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running with cfunge-0.3.3 < 1425168638 688365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, ok. That makes "sense". < 1425168684 980644 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I only compiled the other versions on my home PC, not on that server) < 1425168718 510081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty sure what's on the fungot-server is some source-control checkout that's later than the 0.9 release, and at least with the fungot.dat it has that works. < 1425168727 208574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe the newer fungot.dat no longer has any empty lines. < 1425168765 87605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should have just copied that, since I'm pretty sure I even put that somewhere on the laptop just in case. But a quick 'locate' only found the one. < 1425168785 654522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably the new one was inside a tarball or something.) < 1425168859 832186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, good enough for today, I think I'm off to sleep. < 1425169021 41014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers, good night < 1425169061 153097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night. < 1425169151 265126 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1425170857 399006 :^v!~notnot^v@pool-71-183-68-143.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1425170930 497218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425171442 901257 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1425171837 536498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1425173974 610228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1425174505 55268 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1425174589 623820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1425174805 486182 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1425175568 322896 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425175626 703443 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425175842 711480 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425177510 856 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1425177542 35706 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1425178303 526709 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1425178493 427250 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1425178582 970327 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1425178773 927405 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-100-246.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1425179392 980130 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1425180008 196511 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1425180642 975355 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1425180710 952284 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1425180749 974885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to set up a situation in Magic: the Gathering where you can control what cards both players will have in their hand in the subgame? Remember that opponent can mulligan, so you have to take that into consideration, too! < 1425181365 859358 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425181566 976053 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1425181612 569310 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that to make anything with multiple monitors work, you need to write some sh scripts that call xrandr < 1425181651 908303 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and work out the transformation matrices yourself. < 1425181671 687261 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, i have taken a course on transformation matrices. < 1425182517 249153 :seiken!~ricardo@191.161.239.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425182835 296927 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xrandr --output VGA1 --transform -0.948611,0,1366,0,-0.948611,800,0,0,1 < 1425182865 735550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xrandr < 1425182866 360425 :seiken!~ricardo@191.161.239.55 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1425182901 744908 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, this is shy I keep different fonts on different terminals < 1425183373 850861 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap. xfce's window placer keeps placing windows offscreen < 1425183402 667924 :arjanb!8259ab0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.12 QUIT :Quit: . < 1425184152 114584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like I can't take a picture of my computer with my computer < 1425185075 424496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there is query URL for the book/chapter/verse of World English Bible? < 1425185233 323715 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1425185295 765882 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=WEB&search=2%20Timothy%201:7 < 1425185345 437267 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, unfortunately that includes abunch of other stuff in the page < 1425185518 333465 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Mt.+10%3A34&ver=web < 1425185892 261395 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://holy.be/web/verse/genesis-chapter-30-verse-4/ < 1425185901 292318 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1425185903 68175 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one doesn't seem to be a search url < 1425186002 935019 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can isolate the verse by looking for the div like
She gave him Bilhah her servant as wife, and Jacob went in to her.
< 1425186063 550354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice their FAQ says "May I change or translate the World English Bible?" and their answer begins with "Yes and no. Because the World English Bible is God's Word, you may not do anything to change the meaning of the text. That is God's rule, not mine or any rule of man-made law. ..." < 1425186100 594201 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if the bible says that anywhere though < 1425186114 339253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really my opinion is, the Bible is just some small book compared to God's Word; but it is still something, and certainly does not make it worthless!! Nevertheless, if you do change the meaning, please don't call the new version the Bible. < 1425186125 538381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be improper to do so. < 1425186156 565363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what are your opinions of such thing < 1425186216 249810 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the bible is definitely a historical text where the only "proper" version would be the one in hebrew and greek (and some aramaic) < 1425186291 996204 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like you can't change herodotus's Histories or Marx's Das Capital and claim it's the same text < 1425186368 667295 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And translations of those books are not really the same < 1425186436 515755 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texts have names, this one is called "the bible", and to call any other text "the bible" is obviously improper < 1425186444 308402 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425186840 460085 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm skeptical of any attempt to translate any work from any language into any other language < 1425186998 951664 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even dumb comedy anime are completely butchered when they are translated. How could a book of mixed poetry, law, history and mythology like the bible hold up? < 1425187017 723813 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425187023 974543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they try to be as accurate as possible; you will probably inevitably lose something, although footnotes are often added for this and other reasons. < 1425187147 325847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course mistakes are sometimes made; one section says "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live", but some now believe that a better translation might be "poisoner". < 1425187157 114927 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425187195 691550 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425187228 30137 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1425187419 102008 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425187615 724718 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't really thinking of mistakes, more... Languages sort of carry around the culture they come from around with them... < 1425187688 951348 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have weird things like people in anime saying "the club president is a nice person, right?" which is sooo stilted it's not even funny < 1425187708 388801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too; also the text in the Bible is very old, so that the culture is old too < 1425187809 640105 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we might not even know enough about the culture to make a correct interpretation. < 1425187948 394627 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1425187966 656138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct; but you can try to do best you can. Put relevant stuff about the way the old text was originally written in footnotes, stuff about culture, and keep the originals available so that people who understand it and can study it, will do so, and if more studies are made possibly you will figure out something new and fix it a bit better too. < 1425188116 474198 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425188202 510311 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm annoyed that translated manga don't have footnotes < 1425188267 385174 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it would obviously be easier for them to find out the relevant information about modern japan! < 1425188302 578313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that I would like to have some footnotes in there too < 1425188350 819864 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as many as the Bible, but it would help to sometimes put in a few < 1425188386 351353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they should have page numbers; I see many manga without page numbers, even though the page numbers are referenced in the table of contents. < 1425188395 712694 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "it's totally normal to refer to someone by their title when directly addressing them" < 1425188418 353041 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1425188452 744540 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :page numbers. yes. they need them < 1425188710 896959 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although some of these "translators" are too lazy to translate the table of centents < 1425188843 221682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the Japanese version lacks page numbers even though it is referenced in the table of contents. < 1425188846 472116 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1425188886 326321 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. All the japanese manga I have have them < 1425189025 391455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By what authors? < 1425189041 946862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Akagi, by Fukumoto < 1425189190 309168 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hataraku maou by wagahara, kirumi-beibe- by kaduho, nichijou by arawi keiichi, nanoha strikers the comics by uh... nagatani? < 1425189267 370937 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425189295 9922 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how many of those kanji are part of his family name and how many his personal name < 1425189382 350069 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's hasegawa < 1425189414 92728 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1425189679 89460 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aqua by amano kozue, nadesiko by asamiya kia < 1425189685 985064 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now i'm just bragging < 1425189744 777004 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, all those have page numbers... < 1425189768 188116 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not on all pages, but on enough < 1425189812 603785 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've seen many translators cut out the page numbers < 1425189841 803486 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think it might be a space-saving measure to make smaller archives?) < 1425189934 268083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I know is that Fukumoto manga doesn't have page numbers < 1425189957 67556 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... do you have digital or a real copy? < 1425189972 932012 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those I listed were paper books < 1425190057 554222 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty odd not to have page numbers, in a digital release it would make sense, but not on paper < 1425190195 491106 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425190785 704557 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, Akagi is available on the kindle store. < 1425191006 675696 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, a lot of manga is available for really cheap on kindle store! < 1425191072 479946 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1425191413 227181 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has now motivated me to get out my credit card, and make my second-ever online transaction < 1425191935 56875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it on paper < 1425192024 964452 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1425192044 638389 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... beats me then :P < 1425192873 942783 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could always just write the numbers in then?? < 1425193193 197455 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people don't like it when I write in my books... < 1425193320 51553 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1425193749 701890 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my copy of linux in a nutshell annotated by me and my father has saved my ass several times < 1425193980 826695 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425194474 980964 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425194559 720692 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1425194792 332151 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1425196674 552620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zenon Pylyshyn has an awesome name. < 1425196898 291889 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:94bd:94f6:7214:2a01 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425197150 801209 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1425197205 559626 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's only mentioned once in my KRR textbook, but I wish he was mentioned more than once < 1425197702 181392 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just misread a sentence from his presidential address as "American foreign policy against the Unix operating system" < 1425197767 678537 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425197919 399941 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it actually said "ISIS" < 1425198138 854544 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently it was in 1986... < 1425198277 225834 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped an "and" < 1425198402 218129 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call those electronic music things with the squares < 1425198414 153156 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mp3 players? < 1425198442 620047 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dance Dance Revolution? < 1425198492 372586 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh, you mean Launchpad < 1425198549 217324 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I parsed that as (electronic (music things)) first < 1425198629 550652 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that look like a 4 by 4 array of squares < 1425198634 733389 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And pressing the squares does things < 1425198700 765615 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh yes, it is Launchpad < 1425198701 722108 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1425198723 3578 :Froox!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:5d07:8f29:d983:4dcb JOIN :#esoteric < 1425198892 708456 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:94bd:94f6:7214:2a01 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1425200214 324878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1425200387 57848 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1425200407 23806 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1425200873 512160 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425201343 495765 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1425201394 308183 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1425201431 382632 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425201452 554404 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1425201456 918272 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1425201798 462014 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1425201941 573419 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I can't accept this book using "formulas" < 1425201957 103316 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be "formulae" < 1425202039 507823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're going to find this a hard policy < 1425202222 10617 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-21.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1425202283 654742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: they are both officially allowed, but "formulas" has more than 4 times as many google hits (with the quotes) < 1425202293 930379 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dangit < 1425202351 345839 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's next, axises? lemmas? forums? < 1425202379 308157 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of axes, lemmata, and fora? < 1425202416 980460 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their defiantly superior. < 1425202471 523514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure lemmas already won. i think axes is still hanging on. < 1425202486 512357 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-21.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1425202516 692957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about fora. < 1425202531 820678 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, what if people start referring to ninjas? < 1425202546 51856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: *They're < 1425202557 160230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats oren -----### < 1425202570 766277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW YOU'RE JUST BEING SILLY < 1425202581 14107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does japanese even _have_ a plural? < 1425202590 672583 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ninjas, stealthy, inconspicuous spies and assassins < 1425202602 593374 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425202602 955314 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly it doesnt! one ninja, two ninja < 1425202622 543963 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one tsunami, two tsunami < 1425202627 690492 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red ninja, blue ninja < 1425202630 90836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: surely you mean hashashins < 1425202662 192614 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like an amazing breakfast meal. < 1425202671 944356 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about seraphim and mujahidin? < 1425202688 311644 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we going to essify them too? < 1425202708 228785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seraphim is kept because it's cute. mujahedin is kept because people don't think of it as a plural. < 1425202714 247884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least i don't.) < 1425202737 345696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess seraphs is used... < 1425202771 411461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :White-Rabbit: comes with a free dagger < 1425202792 39555 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some brownies < 1425202807 907577 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey now woah there... I prefer to call them tiny swords. < 1425202813 181465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that's racist! < 1425202828 155540 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol how? < 1425202849 201503 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :brownies are a common way to serve hashish < 1425202877 528285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because hashashins have dark skin you don't get to call them brownies, oren < 1425202902 146652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did they, even? syrians aren't very dark.) < 1425202968 382053 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh... in Canada "brownies" means a sort of choclate cake cut into small pieces which can have fruit or coconut (or in this case, hashish) mixed in < 1425203011 979741 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, oerjan was making a joke < 1425203061 653833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking, i know < 1425203065 344302 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I thought this was another place where Canadian is different from English or < 1425203071 975334 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooooo confused....... *brain leaks out of ear a little* < 1425203088 874022 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :American < 1425203104 116419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :White-Rabbit: if you have brain leak problems i don't recommend staying in this channel hth < 1425203110 443100 :Froo!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:2cdb:4350:75c7:e599 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425203151 248659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had brownies (no fruit, though) in the local coffee bars. < 1425203169 167293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they called them that < 1425203190 539180 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hashishin didn't serve brownies, you lawless anachronist < 1425203208 949982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: only because they didn't have chocolate hth < 1425203241 519389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure they had other things to poison < 1425203290 156300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome White-Rabbit < 1425203290 884045 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like? < 1425203305 263016 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1425203340 972778 :Froox!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:5d07:8f29:d983:4dcb QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425203341 231336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :White-Rabbit: i'm not very up to date (especially in the middle ages) to middle-east sweets and cakes < 1425203342 873970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07White-Rabbit: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1425203352 979701 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego is slow today < 1425203353 882121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowest bot in the west < 1425203388 914829 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha, I just got that. It really is slow. < 1425203413 669109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's often been slower when it's been idle a while, i think the VM needs to get up and running < 1425203417 464855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1425203420 891423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1425203425 266533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly better < 1425203442 979340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also with your nick you should get this at once: < 1425203445 41672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1425203446 949130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1425203500 916169 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can literally hear my dad's voice in my head reading that... < 1425203529 606460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sure sign of madness. < 1425203534 284794 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha, I imagine a voice reminiscent of the Stanley Parable voice. < 1425203537 162029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, oerjan is your father < 1425203554 339321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i find that thought disturbing < 1425203566 27273 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT CAN'T BE! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! < 1425203583 279769 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The results are in.... < 1425203590 723710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seek your feelings, you know it to be hogwash < 1425203600 382944 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actaully watched any of the star wars movies < 1425203623 481228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i think 99% of what i know about star wars i got from reading darths & droids < 1425203635 306150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe a _slight_ overestimate there < 1425203666 815312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, d&d has just done that scene (twisted _and_ double twisted) < 1425203780 921981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION actually watched empire strikes back once, the only one he's seen in a proper cinema. although he didn't remember everything. < 1425203845 689474 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Revenge of the Sith in the cinema < 1425203859 249370 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was slightly too young for any of the others < 1425203863 743736 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially the original trilogy < 1425203962 96580 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1425203990 648114 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting sleepy, good night, day, evening to you all. < 1425203992 585559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible i could have watched some of the original trilogy on original release if they got to the small town i'm from, but i didn't. < 1425204003 890551 :White-Rabbit!~Raymond@pool-108-38-254-222.lsanca.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1425204030 309691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't really gone to the cinema that much overall. < 1425204049 79551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls watching ET in cinema < 1425204235 106088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also recall going to watch woody allen's Zelig because the blurb somehow intrigued me; however i didn't actually see it because the cinematographer begged me not to insist that he put it on for just one person :P < 1425204354 727479 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last movie i watched in a theatre was Apollo 18 < 1425204448 505327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the last i watched was Prisoner of Azkaban < 1425204487 723368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :accompanying a young cousin < 1425204513 873179 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I went to the cinema was... last Wednesday < 1425204601 566165 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I went to the cinema was last weekend... though before that it was probably three or so years ago < 1425204605 689661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1425204739 912142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to the cinema the week before, too < 1425204744 323701 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like going to the cinema < 1425204760 955225 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so rare when a film I want to see comes out but then like 4 happen at once < 1425205059 919992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ˆ < 1425205060 976686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+02C6 MODIFIER LETTER CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT] < 1425205327 289517 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't know if I can see Big Hero 6 < 1425205620 407062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which ones? < 1425205626 818589 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hello everyone < 1425205666 194709 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I managed to see Kingsman and Jupiter Ascending < 1425205671 760441 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't cabal tell me what dependencies I need for my own package? < 1425205693 979352 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't get to see Predestination, but that saw a really limited release anyway, and I still need to see Big Hero 6 < 1425205741 520329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one I saw in a cinema was Gru 2. It's not bad, but I didn't completely like it because it's sort of short. The villain is defeated before he even has a chance to start to rule the world with his minions. < 1425205902 51668 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. cabal inspect foo.hs and it will print the versions and names of all imported modules < 1425205904 702240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently there's a third film in the works, prepared for 2017) < 1425206012 59417 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425206117 509954 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to fnordbot? < 1425207212 371237 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1425207224 73155 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently all the females are pretty neat in Big Hero 6 < 1425207241 724951 :dulla!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the comments that all the artists I scoot around seem to say < 1425208747 485004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this correct? http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.2 < 1425209108 863790 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1425209191 854678 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: dunno, but it's scary. four black lotuses in your hand, plus a Mindslaver and other heavy duty cards… < 1425209387 11019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't actually cast Black Lotus or Mindslaver at these times though < 1425209414 147170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opponent has Wishes but nothing relevant in his sideboard? interesting < 1425209431 748618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do you have anything relevant < 1425209480 823815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first step solving the puzzle is to figure out the opponent's plan(s) < 1425209489 416763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, whether he can win this turn < 1425209508 498474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he has a Concordant Crossroad < 1425209513 590040 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he can win by attacking < 1425209539 284661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he also has a Copper Tablet < 1425209564 229038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a "Somberworld Sage"? < 1425209594 771578 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's "Somberworld Sage"? < 1425209604 563676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 0/1 creature with "{T}: Add three manas of one color into your mana pool; can be used only to cast creature spells." < 1425209615 95334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a real M:tG card? < 1425209619 109736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1425209620 580864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, in what set? < 1425209624 666171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is its name typoed? < 1425209635 267700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avacyn Restored < 1425209640 677409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes its name is typoed; thanks < 1425209664 2852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, Somberwald Sage < 1425209665 56051 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proper name is "Somberwald Sage" < 1425209892 265050 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so now I have to figure out whether the opponent has some sneaky way to cast the Mirrorweave and win with Biovisionary even if you somehow kill his Emrakul < 1425209971 523530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a Saharazad in your library? this puzzle is getting even more scary < 1425209991 753860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shahrazad < 1425210109 406597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you do have Shahrazad < 1425210224 830875 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's what the wishes are for < 1425210402 884062 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1425210707 742328 :arjanb!8259ab0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425210897 266123 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425210944 880610 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425210945 27433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425211101 495616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can learn if it is or not. < 1425211111 895448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or if they are for anything...?) < 1425211231 226507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a card to turn wishes into horses < 1425211264 421524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, a horse in your sideboard < 1425211283 713862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT WHAT I MEANT < 1425211315 943519 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nightmare is the bestest one < 1425211381 169093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns of the existence of The Wishing Horse of Oz < 1425212229 588218 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1425212240 88983 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1425212355 152360 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm < 1425212374 114111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :auuum < 1425212404 349014 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did he change his name and then change it back < 1425212481 124826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i generally assume that's because people are making a joke on another channel < 1425212505 727803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i've got this vague feeling nortti has used lawspeaker before < 1425212524 360133 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, nicks carry across channels? < 1425212532 384963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1425212539 591890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a single irc network < 1425212582 866691 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens when nortti is creating laws in another channel < 1425212592 64709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: PLAUSIBLE < 1425212701 779112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: in fact, it's possible to be on the network and _not_ on any channel, only speaking privately. < 1425212726 171578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo got stuck that way for days recently < 1425212807 670959 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in this case, I used it to test new auth system of oonbotti2 < 1425212857 513455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOO you broke my theory < 1425212894 537773 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and usually I use it when I resolve disputes regarding the legal code of #osdev-offtopic < 1425212902 925791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1425213109 554770 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, I finally got the dual monitor overhead to work < 1425213175 594836 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/03/01/54f3069e5934c.png The upper part is suspended horizontally above my head < 1425213323 259761 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1425213481 999235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed, I've even had two normal connections to freenode just to use a temporary alternate nick on a channel < 1425213545 547184 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1425213694 305082 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425213818 491520 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1425213966 368733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj What happened to fnordbot? <-- the bot doesn't reconnect by itself < 1425213966 515804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1425213966 981057 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e:. " ford," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," ford hissed at him, " two to the power of two hundred and thirty-nine thousand li < 1425213993 740482 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :another loop. < 1425214031 364774 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the main problem I have with the model is that it doesn't know when to stop. < 1425214108 508544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly this bot doesn't have fungot's sublime intellect. < 1425214149 799227 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot < 1425214150 44608 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: too? " da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da < 1425214153 794693 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1425214247 562546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say there's clear evidence it's still on the baby stage hth < 1425214351 433773 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425214391 357048 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does it think I'm its father? < 1425214405 628190 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fnordbot, I'm not your da < 1425214405 916030 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: an invisible to himself, " to have turned into a bowl, " have you got a towel, it says, " is big. you must come with me?" said ford, " he was a hell of a lot. " so all i have to do in order to find this wretched," he said at last, " i don't know," said the vogon guard. " er, that was easy, i got a lift a finger to save you a lot. " so," said ford, " to have turned into a bowl, " have you got a towel, it says, " is big. < 1425214779 256631 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1425215764 572160 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425215818 283251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either it actually stopped this time, or it got lucky with the length cutoff < 1425216123 152566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :da, hmm. < 1425216157 73430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"da da da dum" ... yeah I can see how that would loop < 1425216276 216802 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Desperately [Ford] grabbed for the only bit of culture he knew offhand - he hummed the first bar of Beethoven's Fifth. "Da da da dum! Doesn't that stir anything in you?" < 1425216355 534614 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did stir something in fnordbot. < 1425216356 23814 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: would work, a mere nothingth of a second, and then his mind to have good ideas with, it must be said, some success. " so," said ford, " the vogons run the ship, the dentrassis. you want to go to work at," and he turned. " but the programme will take all the little white furry things with the cheese, unexpectedly to have blown up. it then?" he didn't look up. when we were kids at school nicknamed him ix, which in the lang < 1425216429 748878 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love this bit, "but the programme will take all the little white furry things with the cheese, unexpectedly to have blown up." ... is it the cheese or the mice that blow up? < 1425216537 890915 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur JOIN :#esoteric < 1425216548 80488 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's good if it's stupid, I want the real fungot to come back eventually. < 1425216770 482748 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the sun has risen < 1425216987 496773 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aren't you located in Japan? < 1425217001 90535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope hth < 1425217002 336397 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmpf < 1425217014 340227 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Sorry, I meant to ask you. < 1425217022 976745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I knew that. Tab completion failed me. < 1425217030 181096 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/pseudoscience-north-whats-happening-to-the-university-of-toronto/ nah i'm located in this god-forsaken place < 1425217035 135952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that japanese exclave known as toronto < 1425217037 728426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly I pressed "e" instead of "r". < 1425217055 52694 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1425217082 53153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the not-Americas on America. < 1425217165 837356 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1425217376 271625 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oᕂn < 1425217412 541981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode oᕂn < 1425217435 400496 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1425217481 430520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1425217519 608431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode oᕂn < 1425217526 822770 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+1542 CANADIAN SYLLABICS RE] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] < 1425217553 386565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the correct spellin < 1425217806 52854 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh addendum to the topic: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/chuchus.png < 1425218153 198402 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1425218450 684564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the monthly reappearance of that awful reddit ad < 1425218766 402538 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425218792 370766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoily < 1425218992 908156 :Froo!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:2cdb:4350:75c7:e599 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425219170 740747 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boerjan matin! < 1425219266 260478 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it when reddit had a scam advert < 1425219278 878004 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know those ones that pretend to be an alert box, and it makes you download a malware .exe < 1425219294 838170 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the community complained about it and reddit said they wouldn't let that company buy ads again < 1425219418 697070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: yeah, I've heared a lot about those fake antivirus stuff – not in the context of reddit in particular < 1425219518 27245 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good how reddit people did something about it, and the site itself did too < 1425219534 969855 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its rare people would get listened to < 1425219933 627941 :Ronan1!~ronan@159.134.212.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425219963 907790 :Ronan1!~ronan@159.134.212.171 PART :#esoteric < 1425220087 993522 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://trevorjim.com/c-and-cplusplus-are-not-context-free/ < 1425220089 828127 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1425220117 549317 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexing depends on the result of parsing seems hilarious/awful < 1425220205 217333 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders about "The grammar is ambiguous" < 1425220435 788216 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it's just postulated that the grammar should be unambiguous. That's not entirely unreasonable, but not what people generally do in formal language theory when talking about context-free languages. < 1425221298 822175 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think only grammars can be ambiguous? so it seems it shouldn't show up when talking about the language < 1425221337 885284 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thinkt hey mean if you applied the CFG formalism, there would be an ambiguity in if/else handling - therefore it can't be context free < 1425221343 842060 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On the road to Isengard our developers will continue to focus on removing old legacy code, usability and user friendliness." < 1425221350 220794 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a noble goal < 1425221380 465060 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425221412 675935 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "However, in practice we care about the actual parse tree determined by the grammar. In that sense, I think that for us to call the syntax context free we require an unambiguous grammar." <-- that's the argument from an earlier blog post < 1425221677 815640 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the standard doesn' < 1425221682 162317 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1425221713 984232 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :t specify that it must parse to a specific tree, but rather the as-if rule applies and you can use whatever grammar you want as long as it works the same way < 1425221780 183871 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might very well be impossible to make an unambiguous grammar, or a context-free one, but that's probably not what is being proved there < 1425221813 980883 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes thats the claim < 1425221820 938660 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think they are showing that < 1425221822 564454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's besides the point anyway. The fact that using an undefined identifier is an error alone makes the languages context-sensitive. < 1425221856 762098 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1425221857 647962 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that CFGs are a convenient way of over-approximating languages without losing too much precision. < 1425221875 540746 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425221886 549950 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a really cool way to look at it < 1425223085 606989 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425223806 463027 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skwuppzeeikufone QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1425224131 951966 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MOSAIC CHICKEN < 1425224253 222822 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425224398 605886 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1425226085 845964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1425226264 554822 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425226562 197395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425226582 249759 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw I'm working on a lispified object notation with validation support < 1425226877 290941 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean validation? < 1425226913 955340 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :validation against some sort of schema, I suppose < 1425227020 850398 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh like XML? < 1425227188 114801 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a schema thing for JSON as well, FWIW < 1425227219 320958 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or s/FWIW/btw/ < 1425227620 40093 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a tree-regex < 1425227621 442600 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1425227731 413526 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1425228278 887473 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1425228288 410540 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1425228427 175936 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-21.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1425228675 415939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/OQLzwnlF < 1425228684 867841 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, validate against a schema < 1425228716 716377 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you use an s-expression syntax for the schema < 1425228786 688124 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like {} for repetition; it's nice and compact. < 1425228801 269006 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not s-expression < 1425228809 595732 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the #RAW things < 1425228817 507921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: I don't care much about s-expressions < 1425228828 349077 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah #RAW sucks a little bit < 1425228834 946654 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i can get rid of that < 1425228844 396483 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use XML or Json, not s-expressions < 1425228858 947688 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: though they are a natural notation for xml-without-attributes < 1425228878 951673 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: why does the schema have to use s-exp notation? < 1425228893 595846 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would just be the same mistake as xslt made < 1425228912 187540 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xslt is powerful, but its syntax sucks. < 1425228950 925864 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/k8m37DeH < 1425228955 955345 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: much better :) < 1425228964 458355 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] is optional < 1425228972 878437 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} is repetition < 1425228978 215183 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not self-expressible < 1425229019 845677 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1425229023 977087 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't care about that really :) < 1425229089 523967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could go the Relax NG route and have several syntaxes. < 1425229361 476326 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats lame :/ < 1425229410 595621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good example, I think. And I've only ever used the compact syntax. < 1425229415 168545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not intending on validation validation files. < 1425229417 766645 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1425229489 879236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VerboseFuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42065&oldid=37899 5* 03212.56.100.202 5* (+0) 10MANDITORY -> MANDATORY (really glaringly obvious spelling) < 1425229609 377819 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.engineering.zhaw.ch/munt/RLON < 1425229618 628688 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- soure code < 1425229894 826840 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1425229907 221464 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall if Racket has an S-expression form for JSON. < 1425229909 759639 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(persons is actually a raw match < 1425229911 959785 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1425229913 500448 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it for HTML though. < 1425229921 470523 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can match against (#STRING 9) < 1425229924 177302 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 9 is a raw value < 1425229957 516911 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(#STRING 9)" "('hi' 9)" < 1425229957 754222 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425229957 901445 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(#STRING 9)" "('hi' 10)" < 1425229959 261425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1425230083 526354 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(#STRING {9})" "('hi' 9 9 9)" < 1425230084 981870 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425230089 213136 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no OR though < 1425230090 64198 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1425230108 566195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{9 | 0} which would match against ('hi' 9 9 0 9 0) or something like that < 1425230109 196626 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1425230113 232159 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that can be implemented < 1425230142 796446 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the syntax thugh < 1425230144 492122 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1425230162 997027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm | should work < 1425230267 625475 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about grouping... (foo 1 | 2 a | b) looks incomprehensible < 1425230286 831424 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(#STRING {9 | 0})" "('hi' 9 9 0 0 9)" < 1425230287 922058 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425230301 791111 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :grouping. hm... < 1425230304 327406 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1425231090 254355 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425231213 843842 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1425231678 360995 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1425231726 703896 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 2 a anyway? < 1425231729 914312 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean (2 a)? < 1425231736 424770 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(foo 1) | (2 a) | b < 1425231743 432288 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 a is nothing < 1425231750 336546 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1425231754 344219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1425231765 766597 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(foo "bar" 9) and (foo 9 "bar")? < 1425231771 297860 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I want foo with two items, one either 1 or 2, the other either a or b. < 1425231781 51505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(arguments, children, whatever) < 1425231782 593473 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want that as (foo "bar" 9 | 9 "bar")? < 1425231802 351827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could still write it as (foo "bar" 9) | (foo 9 "bar") < 1425231806 920519 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'd want that as (foo "bar" 9) | (foo 9 "bar") < 1425231817 436991 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's possible < 1425231822 740709 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't want to multiply out cartesian products < 1425231823 441126 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2 a itself is nothing < 1425231845 188750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(foo 1 a) | (foo 2 a) | (foo 1 b) | (foo 2 b) < 1425231853 432468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1425231921 264432 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be handy to have a (#PERMUTE a b c) < 1425232654 469943 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(<<1 | 2> | 3> <2 | 4>)" "(1 4)" < 1425232656 206331 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425232665 899168 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta use < > for parantheses :D < 1425232728 68430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does <1 | 2 | 3> work, too? < 1425232773 836246 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1425232787 665456 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to this left recursive thing < 1425232792 24953 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsec's not really good at < 1425232821 320635 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try parsing that as <1 | <2 | 3>> < 1425232856 157579 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1425232858 568780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. make it right-recursive, which generally works. there's also a manySepBy (or similar) combinator < 1425232889 964998 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't use OR in a schema anyway :) < 1425232903 746388 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1425232904 569821 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1425232909 188148 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you should < 1425232910 976541 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I like ADTs (algebraic...) a lot. < 1425232923 75710 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do right recursive? < 1425232929 231750 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :parseFoo; char '|'; parseFoo; < 1425232932 754164 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work with parsec < 1425232946 75592 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will run out of memory and crash < 1425232979 22029 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: parseFoo = parseFooElem >> char '|' >> parseFoo <|> parseFooElem < 1425233005 818346 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1425233008 785661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1425233027 984641 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it needs a 'try') < 1425233117 316914 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it should probably be refactored so that the parseFooElem isn't done twice if the first alternative fails. I think I would use ... *looks up the actual name* sepBy1) < 1425233124 965498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(foo | bar <1 | 2> <7 | 8 | 9>)" "(bar 2 9)" < 1425233125 759782 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425233138 350104 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :< > are optional < 1425233153 289559 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 | 2 3 | 4 is the same thing as <1 | 2><3 | 4> < 1425233158 500983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1425233185 908862 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "(foo | bar <1 | 2> <7 | 8 | 9>) | (no 0)" "(no 0)" < 1425233188 877042 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425233228 496006 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't validate trees anyway I think < 1425233239 215995 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: As I said earlier, (foo 1 | 2 a | b) looks incomprehensible. < 1425233303 270087 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1425233308 242116 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't validate recursive stuff < 1425233326 494808 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet at least < 1425233338 263395 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would require definitons like uhm < 1425233358 264666 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"node := (node #INTEGER )" < 1425233370 174076 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad that you're making up some complicated syntax to parse with haskell, just so you can validate (parse) some s-exps... < 1425233380 272594 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :#atree := (leaf #STRING) | (node #atree #STRING #atree) < 1425233383 244388 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably $node to not confuse it with the name thing < 1425233389 116308 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$, whatever :) < 1425233403 614255 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: why's that bad? < 1425233452 5788 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: gimme a sec < 1425233456 235506 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shouldn't be too hard to implement < 1425233764 106653 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :data ATree = Leaf String | Node ATree String ATree deriving Read < 1425233864 384648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Wheel = Wheel | Reinvented Wheel < 1425234220 570665 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Data.RLON> validateAgainst "main ::= $tree tree ::= (leaf #INTEGER) | (node $tr < 1425234224 40757 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ee #INTEGER $tree)" "(node (leaf 0) 1 (leaf 2))" < 1425234224 662583 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1425234226 649033 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck it < 1425234229 39526 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1425234254 892711 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425234334 261164 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: in any case, it's not sad. making wheels seems to be a good way to learn carpentry :) < 1425234355 701742 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always reinvent the wheel < 1425234359 921754 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda my personality disorder < 1425234377 787350 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: well... < 1425234386 235383 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there yet a formal language to validate s-expressions? < 1425234387 896622 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw? < 1425234393 924191 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except EBNF probably < 1425234418 916712 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is cooler < 1425234426 512874 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's designed for S-Expressions < 1425234478 813158 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could even implement type parameters < 1425234487 499181 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :tree a = (leaf a) < 1425234490 533197 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that < 1425234614 672724 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning on using RLON for some dataformats < 1425234628 200171 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur JOIN :#esoteric < 1425234628 617036 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this way I can validate and parse them without writing specific parsers for each one < 1425234682 924106 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:2cdb:4350:75c7:e599 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425234914 870939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also from a scale on 1 to 10 i'm pretty high right now < 1425235020 945064 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :11? < 1425235038 609715 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1425235122 374491 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1425235123 502630 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 9 < 1425235125 238326 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1425235406 980768 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1425236335 754825 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@2601:9:8300:f300:2cdb:4350:75c7:e599 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1425236565 817721 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1425237132 876286 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-21.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1425237218 234438 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1425237337 387322 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know < 1425237341 350269 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything I do is shit < 1425237347 288143 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kinda my life < 1425237815 56776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, the dress has made it to xkcd (and I'm late looking at it) < 1425238035 284790 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425238383 642848 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dress? < 1425238453 736864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blue dress that some people think is white < 1425238478 368701 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we discussed it yesterday? http://swiked.tumblr.com/post/112073818575/guys-please-help-me-is-this-dress-white-and < 1425238490 384822 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but you may have missed it) < 1425238511 126668 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425238545 774802 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's blue and gold < 1425238561 303500 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe blueish and brownish < 1425238569 902348 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's the deal with that dress color? < 1425238588 925214 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apparently people genuinely disagree about its color. < 1425238599 825740 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why? < 1425238628 187376 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure on the bottom there are some very clear blue stripes that could classify as white < 1425238631 458317 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some are dark as black < 1425238632 825759 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1425238633 676322 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1425238686 728427 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but saying it's blue and black completely ignores that there's brown/gold in there? < 1425238687 215144 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an optical illusion < 1425238692 877277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/there-is-the-dress-and-only-the-dress has some images on top that may explain why < 1425238712 969722 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just read the logs, and now knows what the Friday XKCD was about. Thanks, it made no sense before... < 1425238716 435191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh n, not the dress again < 1425238717 753454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have not managed to coax the picture to look like the first one (where the dress does indeed look very much like a white one) < 1425238721 642137 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's appread in two webcomics already < 1425238730 804632 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...People disagree on the definition of colours. < 1425238739 218291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's just not enough context on that image, because most of it is the dress < 1425238766 925931 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is just an optical illusion due to terrible white balancing. < 1425238778 365482 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all those three pictures have the same dress in it? < 1425238802 808702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were an optical solution a simple RGB check would tell you < 1425238813 915645 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, that link I haven't checked out. < 1425238815 680663 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since optical illusions don't affect RGB values < 1425238835 440030 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just check the recent xkcd on the matter for example < 1425238847 957682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the gold/black one; the material is dark, brownish. But given the bright environment, mistaking the dress for a white one is an unbelievable stretch to me. (the xkcd illustration is good, but the photo doesn't match the left version with the dark background) < 1425238853 193101 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible white balancing does affect RGB values-it's a post-processing filter. < 1425238948 990982 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1425238959 100274 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, well, the terrible white balancing moved the apparently dark blue dress (I saw a link to the store that sold the dress somewhere) so it ended up just in the middle and ambiguous < 1425238959 246888 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I don't give a shit about it until I have the actual dress in my hand < 1425238968 585223 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the matter is made worse because the dress fabric is very smooth, I bet highly reflective as fabrics go) < 1425238970 728064 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :RGB values don't match < 1425238971 458854 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1425238975 265830 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have been tempered with < 1425239006 174921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, in the photos at the top of the page? Yeah probably to illustrate the point < 1425239022 496003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the middle one the original? < 1425239052 150578 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ < 1425239064 322663 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a billion other hits when just googling for "the dress" < 1425239121 187547 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I understand the gold/black one; the material is dark, brownish. But given the bright environment, mistaking the dress for a white one is an unbelievable stretch to me. (the xkcd illustration is good, but the photo doesn't match the left version with the dark background) <-- the middle dress does currently look white/brown to me, rather than blue, which it did when I first saw it. Can't flip it at will either. < 1425239130 865769 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen this (also crappy) photo of (allegedly) the same dress: http://media.tumblr.com/ec387ec0bb03230268a9e905d74097d9/tumblr_inline_nkebmcshcG1svicb3.jpg < 1425239184 237420 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's believable given how overexposed the "original" photo must be. < 1425239207 923334 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that and terrible white balance < 1425239208 105921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not even in contrast with the black/white spotted chair in the background? < 1425239218 144294 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1425239224 465760 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/stichrot/ < 1425239227 506072 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://media.tumblr.com/ec387ec0bb03230268a9e905d74097d9/tumblr_inline_nkebmcshcG1svicb3.jpg is blue < 1425239232 112592 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I still had this script :( < 1425239236 585405 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: mind, I see a light blue dress. < 1425239258 300920 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the high reflectivity is rationalization. < 1425239262 645977 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, A white dress in blue light is what I see < 1425239273 9039 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: interesting. < 1425239279 48388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, And I saw a blue dress in yellow light yesterday < 1425239313 548094 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a god damn optical illusion, not more interesting than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grey_square_optical_illusion.PNG < 1425239319 229420 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both A and B are the same hue < 1425239326 609711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As shown in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Same_color_illusion_proof2.png < 1425239326 756634 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah who cares < 1425239328 955523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Integral14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42066 5* 03OriginalOldMan 5* (+2567) 10Created Integral < 1425239391 137485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I know all that. Maybe too well :) < 1425239412 362339 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, oh? < 1425239428 811842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Integral14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42067&oldid=42066 5* 03OriginalOldMan 5* (+41) 10Added Categories < 1425239491 238684 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody in here playing chess? < 1425239518 27464 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..."playing", as in in the current state of playing? < 1425239529 430465 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, then no. < 1425239549 79458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42068&oldid=41936 5* 03OriginalOldMan 5* (+15) 10Added Integral < 1425239567 84750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I know the rules ;) < 1425239602 467174 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not current < 1425239607 380880 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "sometimes plays it" < 1425239618 434362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna get into chess a little bit < 1425239620 73166 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::H < 1425239625 260325 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :curently I only know the rules < 1425239734 331331 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I think zzo38 maybe? He did something with chess inspired games a couple of years ago at least < 1425239780 729130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The xkcd illustration works for me. But in the photo, the surroundings are always bright. So I haven't managed to see a white dress yet, except on the artificially white-balanced version. < 1425239802 896641 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1425239809 566317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuts up (but for how long?) < 1425239817 618031 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425239823 251957 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The xkcd one is exaggerated to illustrate the point. < 1425239874 604035 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425239946 324110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. "The fact that a single image could polarize the entire Internet into two aggressive camps is, let’s face it, just another Thursday." < 1425239992 309477 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like that math problem < 1425240008 235090 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/03/130312_SCI_FacebookMathQ.jpg.CROP.article250-medium.jpg < 1425240018 161766 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :(annoying and uninteresting) < 1425240051 811691 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1425240092 603353 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425240395 761162 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, can't stop. I feel this article is quite informative (save the last sentence): http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ < 1425240446 543816 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1425240741 395069 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-076-100-246.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1425241065 77898 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1425241122 564523 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, int-e: This also explains the dress well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0PlGpaqy4 < 1425241150 827082 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nice article < 1425241194 385864 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1425241200 627338 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'He even speculated, perhaps jokingly, that the white-gold prejudice favors the idea of seeing the dress under strong daylight. “I bet night owls are more likely to see it as blue-black,” Conway says.' < 1425241205 77941 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I linked that one just earlier < 1425241220 641458 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be interesting to see what a survey would result in < 1425241228 615751 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh, I guess I wasn't here then < 1425241351 52687 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is literally the first google hit for "the dress" right now... < 1425241380 38486 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1425241496 207409 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1425241515 895422 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does css3 have these thingies that can be resized? < 1425241519 207892 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :resizable divs? < 1425241531 543792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you could use js for that? < 1425241540 422981 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :man fuck js < 1425241544 381490 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed < 1425241558 267799 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Static HTML with no scripts for the win < 1425241615 148115 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that can be hard to find these days < 1425241621 719363 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not go for Gopher, while you're on the slope to simplicity-then we're one step closer to finishing the Plan To Make Everyone Use Befunge Computers. < 1425241650 648504 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts to cackle. It is very evil. < 1425241662 343158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, talk to zzo38 for that, he runs a gopher server < 1425241668 507495 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does resize work on phones? < 1425241673 758672 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres the resize css3 property < 1425241674 758943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it? < 1425241708 50707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tested on website on my phone and tablet as well < 1425241715 832525 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my site is very simple < 1425241725 526309 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal:(on gopher) Yes, that's the server I found about Gopher on :) However, unfortunately the server says it's written in FreeBASIC...not good enough. < 1425241767 269070 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw one in python a while ago < 1425241769 335203 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may have gone a little mad with befunge. < 1425241770 360767 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it works < 1425241772 418617 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, screw that < 1425241779 100554 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's realy user unfriendly on phones :( < 1425241850 986909 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, what does the attribute do? < 1425241919 312991 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your browser will add a control at the bottom-right corner of the element < 1425241929 70970 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And let you resize it? Okay < 1425241931 747759 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allows you to resize the element using drag and drop < 1425241933 525129 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1425241937 804441 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sucks on phones < 1425241946 548269 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on mine < 1425241946 791559 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, does it work on Opera Mini? Hehe < 1425241951 145754 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not precise enough < 1425241954 270443 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in google chrome < 1425241966 430190 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's really hard to resize it correctly with your fingers < 1425241975 944373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1425241978 345583 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm using a combination of resize: vertical; overflow-y: scroll; < 1425242035 26833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the bug reporting system at work allows resizing for example. Probably in JS thoug < 1425242038 29852 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :though* < 1425242074 111385 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some browsers already had resizable elements before css3 < 1425242081 706561 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but usually just for textarea < 1425242224 897807 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1425242230 213448 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does css3 have a "expand on click"? < 1425242237 248468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be better than scroll+resize actually < 1425242331 892818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1425242334 433989 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's input:checked < 1425242337 19415 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd could work < 1425242338 190297 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1425242587 587890 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1425242784 824458 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://mroman.ch/index.html < 1425242806 481436 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can match on input:checked + i + p# < 1425242865 800657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it also uses resize) < 1425242967 694432 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1425242971 364908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425243024 527574 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although js is quite nice < 1425243034 277867 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comment system is javascript < 1425243040 787796 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's quite cool that something like that exists < 1425243053 476229 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just embed a little js snippet and your static site has a commenting system < 1425243111 556085 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't, unless you use an external site that has server side scripts < 1425243128 476369 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He does-it's Disqus. < 1425243155 590967 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that "little js snippet" actually is just a loader for a VERY BIG script... < 1425243160 569455 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah I have noscript on < 1425243166 420328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1425243174 816541 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a fully static site: https://vorpal.se/ < 1425243348 796969 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1425243361 779559 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice and simple, it seems. < 1425243398 689292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the dullest website :p < 1425243480 568727 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind, ZZO38's website is even duller unless you have a network terminal and the Gopher RFC document... < 1425243497 648930 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and even then there's not much describing where to go) < 1425243538 927105 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal at least has a decent index of projects :) < 1425243568 796690 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : this is the dullest website :p <-- yes it is < 1425243600 181133 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal at least has a decent index of projects :) <-- I think I probably made some other stuff that is out there, and of course, a lot of unpublished stuff < 1425243611 321028 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but it's SOMETHING. < 1425243629 649803 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has nothing as far as HTTP goes. "Please use the gopher service.",anyone? < 1425243653 789895 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1425243664 330640 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are http proxies for gopher iirc < 1425243707 849775 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I used at first. Then I read the Gopher RFC, and then started work on a object-oriented language to compile to Befunge. (yes, those are related) < 1425243727 174994 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, 98 or 93? < 1425243730 473233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume 98 < 1425243736 453387 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :98, it needs the SOCK fingerprint. < 1425243749 674023 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :For object orientation?? < 1425243750 887657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1425243757 617367 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, for Gopher. < 1425243766 337435 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which interpreter are you running it on? < 1425243788 185158 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI, for now. < 1425243799 645241 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I forget if efunge has SOCK < 1425243807 322793 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, not CCBI2? < 1425243815 375740 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, is CCBI1 still around < 1425243842 284362 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...The archive is called: ccbi-2.1 < 1425243886 965260 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1425243904 480602 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like efunge is missing SOCK < 1425244012 397337 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently the language is quite esoteric. Want to see a program which eats up all available RAM? < 1425244033 195893 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1425244060 217402 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the "meant to be interpreted by a interpreter written in befunge" format or the "assembly-like" format? < 1425244068 314537 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First is more esoteric :) < 1425244072 303794 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, source format? < 1425244086 200303 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the befunge code too < 1425244111 383907 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Currently I'm still working on the language, so I'm using a testing interpreter written in Lua. < 1425244119 890343 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, I would like to see a functional language compiled to befunge, with closures and all that < 1425244153 612320 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm probably not going to have closures, I'm trying to keep it REALLY simple. < 1425244173 204053 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425244178 131112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/index.html < 1425244190 821532 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I has border radius right now < 1425244218 374122 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's nothing stopping a interpreter(whichever language you want) being written to run on top of a interpreter(my language) written to run on a interpreter(befunge). < 1425244235 684362 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Oooh, circular borders! < 1425244485 342537 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425244659 20231 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Here's the instruction list: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/instructionlist.txt < 1425244672 328290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Integral14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42069&oldid=42067 5* 03OriginalOldMan 5* (+6220) 10Added Fibonacci Number Program < 1425244747 262921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, and you are compiling it to optimised befunge? < 1425244806 785349 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends-again, this is all planned. For now, it's just being interpreted by a Lua interpreter while I work on making a decent language to use. < 1425244838 331307 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm keeping the instructions simple so that when I'm done, it should be quick to get befunge output (compiled or interpreted) < 1425244851 266470 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425244988 655417 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is fungot < 1425244990 839185 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ! < 1425245014 774321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie fungot is missing < 1425245014 920974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1425245026 830155 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1425245027 14238 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1425245052 669620 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's fnordbot, which is int-e's "temporary replacement". < 1425245053 98459 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: their way. " no you can't possibly, let out a wild whoop in major thirds, threw ford prefect, " it's dark," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fairy story, it's what parents tell their kids at school nicknamed him ix, which in the language. a towel, it says, " is big. you must come with me?" said ford, " you reckon, what's the problem? a sudden silence afterwards." " you just let the machines began to sink downwa < 1425245096 961666 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, fungot is trapped in a house without internet < 1425245105 951777 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For at least two more weeks I think < 1425245150 144259 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are currently...fungotless. *dark evil thunderclouds magically appear* < 1425245181 169158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1425245208 685439 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, What prefix does it use? < 1425245226 6448 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1425245230 175576 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1425245230 322317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1425245232 724261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1425245232 871141 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1425245233 534649 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1425245241 639489 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[->++++++++++<]. < 1425245244 429504 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1425245249 610380 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :;help < 1425245252 282499 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Oh, forgot the >. < 1425245256 706727 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :>help < 1425245258 837760 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[->++++++++++<]>. < 1425245259 257317 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1425245267 376171 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1425245271 148281 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope? < 1425245277 220036 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't a fungot < 1425245335 93025 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[->++++++++++<]>+++++.<++++++++[->>++++<<]>>.<--------.+++++++++++++. < 1425245335 491836 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i an < 1425245365 418626 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1425245381 281752 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Okay, so it doesn't respond to ^help, but it responds to bf. < 1425245400 530362 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul < 1425245402 104046 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1425245407 576462 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot underload < 1425245438 536025 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to [strikeout]steal[/strikeout] acquire a hello world program in Underload. < 1425245454 224689 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, this one on Esolang will do nicely. < 1425245456 642748 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Hello, world!)S < 1425245457 101794 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1425245492 496123 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((Hi)S:^):^ < 1425245492 870705 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHiHi ...too much output! < 1425245497 197699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's got an old copy of fungot.dat I gave int-e. < 1425245505 261298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1425245599 675251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Taneb's summary was correct. (Or technically the house will get internet in two days, but I won't be here to set it up for two weeks. (Great timing.)) < 1425245637 32184 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1425245643 482614 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where are you going? < 1425245688 394124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Mountain View, Google HQ. < 1425245694 799747 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, i experimented with the fish eye panorama feature in the google camera app yesterday, it wasn't too bad provided you didn't zoom in < 1425245710 118844 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then the bad stitching showed up < 1425245729 808843 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, at least we have fnordbot-WHAT??? Google HQ? ...really? < 1425245730 370370 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: more. " why," a voice said " i seem to be having tremendous difficulty in finding the floor. " what," said trillian, " but those of finely calculated the cumulative effect is this? all his heirs are now long dead, and this is frankie, " a simple one! " in a few seconds," he continued, " you just let the machines began to sink downward and to everyone else out there, the secret. at the moment. a slight hiss built into < 1425245761 382312 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or does that bot like to say "the machines began to sink downward"? < 1425245770 958418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I haven't tried it yet. Maybe I should, now that I have a camera-equipped Android device. < 1425245778 850298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1425245778 997104 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: irc* < 1425245789 732605 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1425245803 906578 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought it was hitchhikers guide to the galaxy < 1425245806 666447 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. < 1425245814 539524 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1425245819 271989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is that. < 1425245821 361430 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what int-e said, also "trillian", "ford prefect"??? < 1425245842 535264 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Magrathea"? "a towel"? < 1425245845 715516 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why the fuck did it claim to be irc < 1425245853 814173 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot, ping < 1425245854 27989 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because ford never learned to say his original purpose, which ford and was about to go for a walk to the bridge at that, i can tell. " you can't keep us out!" " what the hell am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to take you to the bridge at that, i can tell." " the mice were furious." " the day, arthur's mind. look at me: i design coastlines. a red star the size of a planet and they ask me to take you to the b < 1425245863 600285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: A joke. < 1425245873 160116 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah definitely Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy < 1425245881 910393 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or #hgttg < 1425245885 768493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1425245886 154053 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: Not really what you'd expect < 1425245889 660329 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if that exists) < 1425245904 429875 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really what you'd expect is probably a big giveaway that it's a joke. < 1425245907 209849 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why doesn't ^help work though < 1425245924 322681 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a style for fnordbot to use, but I'm not sure if it'll work. < 1425245924 775764 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj:...?" " unfortunately, in a desperate that any man who can," a voice said " i seem to be having tremendous difficulty in finding the floor. " what," said trillian, " but those of finely calculated the cumulative effect is this? " the universe to it, you can't like it," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," he said at last, " i don't know," said th < 1425245934 797264 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Should've gone with "it"... < 1425245957 959768 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help is a "defined command" or something...needs fungot's files to use. < 1425245962 698593 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1425245972 602717 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the exact details. < 1425245986 626686 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or anything about how fungot works,really.) < 1425246040 248464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, it's not a built-in and the data file was too old. < 1425246089 444527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should have copied the current one, but had to jump through hoops due to lack of internet. < 1425246090 335245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very very old then < 1425246102 89235 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't it be possible to define it? < 1425246111 325698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1425246130 184785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def help ul (Please define me.) < 1425246130 632325 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1425246139 594322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def help ul (Please define me.)S < 1425246139 991297 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1425246140 137856 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1425246140 138055 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please define me. < 1425246156 403562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almos forgot the S. < 1425246162 985428 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1425246166 544508 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def help ul (Use ^bf for Brainf***, ^ul for Underload.)S < 1425246167 3818 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1425246168 282046 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ^save right? < 1425246177 776291 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^heko < 1425246179 650826 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1425246180 34537 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use ^bf for Brainf***, ^ul for Underload. < 1425246187 902158 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Much more useful. < 1425246190 481414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that's owner-only. < 1425246194 461554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfrick < 1425246211 121848 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...except I'm not the owner. < 1425246231 888307 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...And come to think of it, this is int-e's bot, right? < 1425246234 408903 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1425246239 653855 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet fizzie defined something? < 1425246254 283316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone can do def. < 1425246255 124536 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, yes ^def is open, ^save is not < 1425246263 275537 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Ah, I see. < 1425246266 539909 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/.znc/moddata/log $ du -sh < 1425246266 785706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :3,2G . < 1425246268 307124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck me < 1425246292 839025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The directory is massive, one log per channel per day < 1425246297 787811 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls | wc -l < 1425246298 60436 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :41254 < 1425246309 583040 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Do you really need that big a log? < 1425246318 434386 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...When there's already channel logs? < 1425246345 739236 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def help ul (^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool)S < 1425246345 886053 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1425246356 356571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, to elaborate, I think they call it the Googleplex or something. < 1425246360 924581 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, it logs all channels I'm not, not just #esoteric < 1425246371 342945 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, And I'm on like 80 channels over 10 networks < 1425246379 860224 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously? < 1425246388 644119 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, probably closer to a hundred < 1425246393 648717 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't countet < 1425246398 94130 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a while < 1425246409 785166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, need to do something with the logs < 1425246410 87264 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm literally on 1 channel with my client set to alert me when fungot goes back online. < 1425246410 993726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logging all the channels you're *not* is pretty impressive. < 1425246437 110805 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Vorpal, you could always try gzip. < 1425246440 348156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425246445 570311 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clip14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42070&oldid=42063 5* 03Ypnypn 5* (+2457) 10 < 1425246449 148618 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm on I meant < 1425246460 102210 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, step 1 would be to split it by year or channel < 1425246467 477652 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :by year to begin with, that is easier < 1425246474 714529 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because ls is taking ages in that directory < 1425246475 252700 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Don't the channels already have logs for this? < 1425246483 12072 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, not all no < 1425246516 259257 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Well, maybe write a script which sorts them+clumps them into 1 file per year. < 1425246525 13841 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*per year per channel < 1425246569 165948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425246577 909283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425246599 248688 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Do these logs run across decades? < 1425246657 517084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I keep only the current year on the VPS, and the rest only locally. With "net/chan/YYYY-mm.log" filenames and a month per file. < 1425246665 960518 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, not on this host no, they just run since 2013, since I started using that bouncer back then < 1425246677 610002 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, this is on my RPi < 1425246690 93608 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, I have older logs in different formats elsewhere, going back to mid 00s < 1425246697 535229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, And before that I wasn't on IRC < 1425246701 240397 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425246734 676591 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone fell on the street snow and opened < 1425246743 315107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1425246744 645693 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That generally isn't a good thing. < 1425246754 585698 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425246770 803487 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "opened", what do you mean? < 1425246811 293695 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, you need an unbreakable phone. Like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericsson_R310s < 1425246825 599626 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: the back and battery came off < 1425246834 12746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snow got into the battery compartment and don't know where else < 1425246840 794646 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...That's not good, wait for it to dry. < 1425246847 804772 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now have it opened and put silica gel packets on it < 1425246856 650283 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long should I wait? < 1425246862 823235 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the battery came out *before* the phone got into the snow... < 1425246871 166189 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, during the impact) < 1425246886 242767 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably best to wait as long as you can. < 1425246888 6308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to not eat the silica gel when you're done. < 1425246891 346409 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I'm not totally certain if it did or not < 1425246900 934301 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, XD < 1425246910 400000 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the phone's battery didn't pop out by itself. < 1425246924 147302 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's likely it powered down before any water actually got in. < 1425246939 117393 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not accounting for capacitors here, I know.) < 1425246941 541773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also glad I didn't get run over < 1425246944 880539 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1425246964 542673 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-50-185-172-85.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425246964 689830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "Silica gel, do not eat" was our stock phrase we used whenever the cat was eating something it wasn't supposed to be eating. < 1425247017 71437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I need to update my znc < 1425247028 939642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean even if it isn't silica gel? < 1425247050 366103 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1425247067 722412 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ha < 1425247069 321043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes. In fact, I don't think the cat ever tried to eat silica gel. < 1425247071 127177 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah* < 1425247106 612251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly just cardboard and paper stuff. < 1425247158 892821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes headphone cables. < 1425247177 389249 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: how much time do your logs cover? < 1425247206 742035 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should start logging irc if the logs are that small < 1425247213 297720 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425247234 864024 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 2 GB? Small? < 1425247246 577194 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes, that's small < 1425247249 435852 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 2 years(okay, across 80 channels but whatever) < 1425247257 706800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I need to get to sleep, early flight to CA tomorrow.) < 1425247268 33432 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, as I said, on that computer, since 2013 < 1425247279 587876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I work with videos, they've distorted my sense of size, sorry < 1425247288 269224 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And uncompressed < 1425247289 705944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: thanks < 1425247298 994471 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me ssh to the computer with my older logs < 1425247303 747958 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I understand in the context of videos being big, they're videos. < 1425247330 392576 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wish you well on your mission to do whatever it is you plan to do. < 1425247334 130652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: some irc channels have a lot more traffic than this one < 1425247374 498188 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...This one has a decent amount of traffic whenever there's actually a chat going on. (When there isn't, then...) < 1425247417 308883 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not, they are on an external HDD < 1425247420 285021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Thanks. Though it's just a business trip. Google seems to want all new employees to be dazzled by their "main" campus for a week or two. < 1425247451 962134 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1425247536 564073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: come on, these days 2 GB of logs fits in the RAM and you can search it in a second < 1425247556 814475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have that much RAM though < 1425247575 271576 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? My tablet has 2 GB RAM < 1425247579 643343 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone probably too < 1425247597 184011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I do have more than enough disk space, and they could be stored in a SQLite database in order to do search, too < 1425247599 59646 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This old laptop has 4 GB RAM < 1425247602 446800 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a Core 2 Duo < 1425247615 310381 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, or postgresql < 1425247616 551895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Your RPi doesn't. < 1425247620 583303 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Indeed < 1425247637 156917 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nor does my router < 1425247641 904376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This phone's got 3, I think. < 1425247647 980838 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what model? < 1425247657 353408 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1425247662 851275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't they put a gigabyte or something on the new RPi. < 1425247671 17924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you could use PostgreSQL instead if you prefer, although I don't know how to write extensions for PostgreSQL, nor do I know about if it support such thing like recursive WITH clauses, views with triggers attached, etc < 1425247682 83519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Nexus 6, the phablet one. < 1425247693 7542 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it? As a phone? < 1425247704 208613 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also doesn't it have raw image support? Tried that yet? < 1425247712 411399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, this machine doesn't have 2G ram either, but I work with machines that have 8Gg or 16G < 1425247724 945449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like it, but I'm a bit strange. Some people hate the form factor. < 1425247730 280954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also what happened to your old N900? < 1425247733 555805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once asked before about name-mangling with DLL files, but as it turns out now, the DLLs I was using don't need name-mangling (the program disables name-mangling for the two functions it exports), and I was able to write it in C, after fixing the provided header file by adding a "#ifndef __cplusplus" area with typedefs in it. < 1425247769 784250 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, my desktop has 16 GB, my work laptop as well < 1425247777 732179 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my next work laptop will have 32 GB < 1425247779 482949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Holding my Finnish SIM card for the transition period. Not sure what to use it for after that. < 1425247784 884193 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Going to be replaced this summer) < 1425247787 109196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: good to hear < 1425247793 373803 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1425247825 163447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The battery on the N900 is kind of dying. < 1425247850 774639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need 2G to run an irc client of course < 1425247852 359891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, znc 1.6 needs C++11 which means GCC 4.8 not 4.6, which means I can't use distcc as I lack that compiler on my desktop < 1425247857 617732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For ARM that is) < 1425247862 946183 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this will take a while < 1425247865 147484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although last I looked it was still easy to get replacements. < 1425247873 520603 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1425247902 945097 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I use a Sony Xperia Z2 nowdays, works well. No raw image support currently thoug < 1425247905 652509 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :though* < 1425247914 997490 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope they will add that in when it gets Android 5 < 1425248047 553828 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1425248055 673837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked a Nexus thing, since it seemed like the natural choice, given the circumstances. < 1425248069 801728 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1425248083 417182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it would probably be better to have a bit more device diversity among developers. < 1425248094 85282 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1425248112 180171 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, surely you have an array for testing the app with at work? < 1425248122 521711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do they expect you to use your private phone for that? < 1425248159 273557 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1425248194 596972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but the developers would be in the best position to fix the bugs if they encountered them in their day-to-day use. < 1425248202 484186 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1425248249 935751 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1425248250 82531 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1425248255 726185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this isn't entirely a private phone, in the sense that they paid for it. < 1425248280 14814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I love the Nexus 10, sad they have discontinued big tablets in the Nexus series (since the battery in that thing is starting to die)... < 1425248295 866167 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Means I'm going for something else next time < 1425248301 342937 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a Galaxy Tab or Note < 1425248340 634501 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The xperia tablets are just 8" < 1425248351 561216 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1425248354 836954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, that is the compact edition < 1425248394 759165 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there no non-compact? < 1425248425 283768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read my latest session of level20.tex (and the previous one) yet? Do you like this? Is there a typographical error or something else that could be improved? < 1425248431 462012 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't... < 1425248448 784266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the Nexus 9. Though it's still pretty small. < 1425248464 175342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :8.9" or so. < 1425248600 722183 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, 10-11" is what I want < 1425248616 270703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 5, a 6, a 7v1 and a 7v2 nowadays. Though I only own the 6 and the 7v1, the other two are devel-device loaners. < 1425248620 128285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, all the search results are Samsung < 1425248649 283654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :On prisjakt.nu at least < 1425248656 990762 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which tends to be pretty good < 1425248718 507860 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is Note, Tab or Tab Pro? < 1425248756 290209 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and a Gigaset device, whatever that is < 1425248765 216373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea on those. Do they all do the pen thing, or is that just Note? < 1425248869 889859 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think that is just note < 1425248877 795848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a fan of Touchwiz though < 1425248880 389603 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1425248899 705606 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not getting a Note one, because the pen will probably not work on a non-stock ROM < 1425248913 124545 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah um... < 1425248926 283668 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I need to sleep, good night < 1425249064 600785 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425249070 539665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1425249072 52066 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1425249253 866433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto. < 1425249540 349882 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425249891 293376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425249892 522563 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425249986 673891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1425250003 531053 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1425250068 658809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1425250314 530886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know #esoteric has seen it before < 1425250320 324019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm going to link http://boundvariable.org/task.shtml again because it's so awesome < 1425250332 689954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it kind-of hides the reason why it's awesome until you actually get some distance into the task, though) < 1425250500 565110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425250694 889422 :arjanb!8259ab0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.12 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1425250851 178809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425251027 752541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :⍬ < 1425251321 569776 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425251600 216669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clip14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42071&oldid=42070 5* 03Ypnypn 5* (-24) 10/* Constants */ < 1425252298 456276 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tomwwnvcadmmykex JOIN :#esoteric < 1425252793 265375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Clip14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42072&oldid=42071 5* 03Ypnypn 5* (+225) 10/* Constants */ < 1425252794 481934 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1425253124 298841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have changed this puzzle http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.2 < 1425253146 618540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Opponent now has 2x Sages of the Anima) < 1425253522 906400 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1425254135 995823 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425254151 257163 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1425254272 441450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1425254281 650890 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523