< 1431043247 203193 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1431043247 371629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or wait there's a PIE reconstruction *marǵ- < 1431043281 40964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :PIE IS DELICIOUS < 1431043337 123786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh margin is via the latin version < 1431043376 818354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the different meanings may have been borrowed back and forth < 1431043403 824679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: argh need to eat < 1431044088 899206 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! WHAT FLAVOUR? < 1431044373 982919 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1431045090 122087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wanna play game. i feel like game. < 1431045362 101799 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Polish for a square is kwadrat < 1431045433 837787 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1431045438 228566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i'm sorry, the only correct spelling is "kvadrat" hth < 1431045461 929765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally realizes polish is just norwegian with funny spelling hth
< 1431045479 640690 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polish doesn't even have v as a letter < 1431045503 347117 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How about this: yellow is żółty < 1431045521 652078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ok that's a really horrible misspelling of "gul" < 1431045571 455887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall an old norwegian encyclopedia that didn't bother giving w its own letter ordering < 1431045581 47910 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red is czerwony < 1431045591 766832 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue is niebieski < 1431045598 729327 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(niebo is sky) < 1431045612 613041 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or heaven) < 1431045624 170209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid we're pretty close to english there, "rød" and "blå". < 1431045813 201449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :* oerjan finally realizes polish is just norwegian with funny spelling <-- norwegian's spelling is much funnier hth < 1431045820 22126 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I would feel like game if I weren't going to be embedding myself deep on my mattress in a few minutes :( < 1431045829 359821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wøt < 1431045857 717696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix embedding < 1431045868 650821 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagonalisation. < 1431045869 885008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you didn't fall for my trap :'( < 1431045873 433157 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then take le nap, but DEN PLAY ZE GAME < 1431045945 214548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: norwegian is good but it just n3eds a little more...polish. hth. < 1431045974 577310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wąt trap < 1431045979 307893 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: czerwony comes from a bug that red dye was made from < 1431045998 308038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1431046050 984617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the idea was that you would notice the missing hth and think "oh, i forgot to double-hth", but then you'd think "wait, but it's /me, so i don't need to double-hth", and then you would become confused, and check the logs, and finaly swat me < 1431046090 109403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fiendish hth < 1431046124 21572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your error was to assume i would remember whether i had used hth or not < 1431046227 246088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1431046266 441616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo bath | h < 1431046267 173993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahth < 1431046339 703158 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LAMBASTIC CHICKEN < 1431047142 562613 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what does hth mean? < 1431047206 854679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1431047208 331057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1431047218 756687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means "hope that helps" or "hope that helped" or something like that. < 1431047294 376641 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. The way that it was constantly used made me question that interpretation hth < 1431047324 759604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be "hope this helps". < 1431047329 853545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hope this helped" doesn't make much sense. < 1431047785 761252 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1431048962 50716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1431049886 349444 :fowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tdvkztvltgoyieta PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only used sarcastically in this channel haha < 1431050011 749660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a fowl thing to say tdnh < 1431050226 242543 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm suprised that nobodies used htththh < 1431050248 499554 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hope that this hope that helps helps < 1431050287 644971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not nobodies here! < 1431050299 702453 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can, of course, be nested arbitrarily deep. htththhthth < 1431050314 833930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have you know oerjan's twin published respectable maths papers about ergodicity or something < 1431050368 891032 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so you're even lower than nobodies, neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirds < 1431050403 105516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels this slight twitching in his power abuse finger
< 1431050432 834360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the one connected to the swatter < 1431050440 22709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you saying i should stop < 1431050475 781587 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he means me < 1431050482 462087 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* cowers in fear < 1431050517 619314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (h)S((h)(t))(~:^:S*a~^~*a*~:^):^ < 1431050517 784832 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :htththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhtthhthtthhtththhthtththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhthtththhtthhthtthhtththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhtthhthtthhtththhthtththhtthhthtthhtththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhthtththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhtthhthtthhtththhthtththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhthtththhtthhthtthhtththhtthhthtththhthtthhtththhthtth ...too much output! < 1431050537 282519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep enough? < 1431050576 233269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this sequence is dense in a nice uniquely ergodic system hth hth) < 1431050581 802323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1431050603 938031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the orbit of < 1431050633 246995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you quadruple hth to type that < 1431050679 413630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the swatter doesn't work against people calling people nerds, tru fax < 1431050694 885328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you actually did publish papers on ergodic theory < 1431050699 497350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i was misremembering that < 1431050712 34772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHAHA* < 1431050755 453278 :fowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tdvkztvltgoyieta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ergodic theory (ergon work, hodos way) is a branch of mathematics that studies dynamical systems with an invariant measure and related problems. Its initial development was motivated by problems of statistical physics. < 1431050784 242089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently i have to pay $45 to read it tdnh < 1431050808 797902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1431050809 883661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you become the evil twin by selling your soul to publishers? < 1431050817 89048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1431050823 261862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i got paid < 1431050848 829321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get a degree < 1431050853 845591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1431050863 713392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically money < 1431050868 758083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1431051017 210625 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like one of those lotteries that advertise money for life, really < 1431051508 735797 :fowl!Elite14005@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tdvkztvltgoyieta PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1431051971 986583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42811&oldid=42630 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+43) 10 < 1431052534 130417 :spatterworhty!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1431053901 257453 :teakey!~teakey@23.27.206.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1431054438 899705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1431054679 51768 :teakey!~teakey@114.111.166.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431056048 971284 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1431056969 229278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1431057124 72506 :teakey!~teakey@114.111.166.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1431058233 226460 :password2_!~password@197.77.29.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431059709 920772 :teakey!~teakey@180.175.253.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431059735 926750 :teakey!~teakey@180.175.253.108 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1431059767 198819 :teakey!~teakey@180.175.253.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431059939 306358 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1431062527 405465 JOIN :#esoteric > 1431062531 457781 JOIN :#esoteric > 1431062531 963675 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431062538 658326 :glogbot!~glogbot@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1431063795 76888 :password2_!~password@197.77.29.133 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1431065560 894712 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1431065619 568520 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...but archaic ← Yeah, only used in "i gengäld" ("in return") today, I think < 1431066008 184603 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise what the etymology was before now, though < 1431066974 108697 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1431068320 344572 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a branch of mathematics that studies the impact of mathematical studies on society? < 1431068375 727451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'm not sure such a thing would be a branch of mathematics < 1431068735 21292 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1431069299 703779 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to xkcd everything is a branch of mathematics. < 1431069643 877498 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1431069714 918509 :teakey!~teakey@180.175.253.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1431071573 255683 :teakey!~teakey@180.175.253.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431072948 833741 :nszceta!~nszceta@5ED062E5.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1431073228 216552 :teakey!~teakey@180.175.253.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1431073633 704253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1431073757 809388 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ england what the fuck < 1431074037 308371 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1431074113 693078 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1431074170 579268 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a fan of tories? < 1431074650 488934 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does hIsEOF block? < 1431074685 154035 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: is stdin at eof if the user didn't type yet? < 1431074768 891053 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not using it on stdin < 1431074823 752136 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hIsEOF *may* block < 1431074825 720479 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1431074870 648186 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1431074878 519256 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I know when reading is finished? < 1431074925 94345 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hIsReady throws an error when EOF is reached < 1431074932 882503 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you should check for EOF before hIsReady < 1431074945 239122 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hIsEOF blocks infinetily < 1431075274 246357 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you provide some more context? if you can pass stdin, it makes perfect sense that it may block < 1431076405 180703 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using it on a handle of another process < 1431076408 932121 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :launched with shellCmd < 1431076603 704004 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which uses shell and createProcess < 1431076672 231201 :nszceta!~nszceta@5ED062E5.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1431076701 269808 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example with netcat hIsEOF on stdout of it seems to block < 1431076713 662527 :nszceta!~nszceta@5ED062E5.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1431076790 935480 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think in the long term a Tory majority is good because either their supporters are right and they somehow do a good job, or, without the lib dems to blame things on, they get largely discredited < 1431076797 793118 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this is just wishful thinking, I admit < 1431076827 963842 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/wgxqfHgF but you can't really make use of that :) < 1431076865 905643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd, very, very wishful < 1431076882 644072 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can I say, I am an optimist through and through < 1431076888 126748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's one thing this election's proven it's that the english public-- < 1431076902 93692 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I voted for the only party that deserved to win, Yorkshire First < 1431076906 295456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, the swing voters in english marginals who actually decide who the country's run-- < 1431076917 496012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an unlimited capacity to believe obvious, utter bullshit < 1431076996 250689 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I could choose to vote in either a tory safe seat or a labour safe seat) < 1431077166 15977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the long tory tradition of 'fuck you, i've got mine' it's vaguely hopeful that they've promised more devolution as a sop to the scots < 1431077281 86647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to get a degree and go home, i've seen enough of england < 1431077307 660182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, they didn't even let me vote. "Blah blah British citizen blah." (Perhaps a wise decision.) < 1431077381 763693 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I thought resident EU citizens could vote? < 1431077399 56313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in this election. < 1431077411 509599 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Resident commonwealth citizens can < 1431077418 611182 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you should have been from Malta < 1431077424 466134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Additionally, the following cannot vote in a UK general election: EU citizens resident in the UK (although they can vote at elections to local authorities, devolved legislatures and the European Parliament)" < 1431077444 187301 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huuuuh < 1431077460 805398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the 'fuck off back to eton' song stuck in my head < 1431077582 323620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the same in Finland: non-Finnish citizens can't vote in the presidential or parliamentary elections, but the rules for the local and EU parliament ones are different. (The former is open to citizens of EU countries, Norway and Iceland, and anyone who's been resident for 2 years or more; the latter to EU only.) < 1431077662 72432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: if I vote at the local EU parliament elections, I can't vote at the Finnish one. < 1431078328 162680 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1431080112 968459 :S0lll0s!~S0lll0s@95.91.244.76 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1431080801 524701 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431080884 304096 :nszceta!~nszceta@5ED062E5.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1431082036 482158 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :EU citizens can become UK citizens though < 1431082162 240173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not easily < 1431082171 271996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not exactly limited to EU citizens. < 1431082197 55806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll ("usually") have to live here for 5 years, at the very least. < 1431082213 853349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1431082238 513294 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've lived in the UK since 2006 < 1431082432 491610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand there's a test, too. < 1431082870 135597 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is a nice place. they even have the same Queen as ours! < 1431083112 428250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gemooy14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42812&oldid=40956 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (-64) 10Update link to GEMOOY project NOTES < 1431083817 120931 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, she is the Queen of a lot of places < 1431083905 505267 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's like both my queens < 1431084091 376489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvellod. both your queens? < 1431084106 443884 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm dual national UK/Australia < 1431084212 102748 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh. < 1431084315 584291 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's just one of my Queens (Queen of England) < 1431084428 498348 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FUNGOTTIAN CHICKEN < 1431087269 393761 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431088366 316842 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1431088977 753715 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between 赤 and 紅????? < 1431089016 704779 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both mean red but in different contaxts < 1431089158 301261 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1431089176 572126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( red socks ) < 1431089304 302512 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1431089552 308421 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1431089926 344093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1431090345 494148 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1431091848 339704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1431092584 582721 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1431094310 389679 :teakey!~teakey@114.111.166.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431094311 436865 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1431094927 51777 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1431095051 320768 :teakey!~teakey@114.111.166.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1431095345 203567 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1431095997 652719 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42813&oldid=42811 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+37) 10 < 1431096446 636517 :teakey!~teakey@61.164.211.212 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431099365 731316 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1431099401 117304 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1431099595 980457 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rfkwppokqxlnntrb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1431099814 369663 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1431099890 69972 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1431100755 526027 :teakey!~teakey@61.164.211.212 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1431100968 46994 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1431101191 354540 :teakey!~teakey@23.91.14.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431101859 347604 :teakey!~teakey@23.91.14.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1431103393 436621 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431103635 430701 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1431104935 21192 :zadock!~zadock@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1431108441 873419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1431109106 54862 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1431110407 793925 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1431110537 432581 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1431110905 120584 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1431110927 924085 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My principles of programming languages module states, roughly, "all languages are turing complete" < 1431110954 313180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"roughly" < 1431110985 103784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: been a long time since the last olist, hasn't it? < 1431110994 387449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: several hours! < 1431110995 209391 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm paraphrasing < 1431111010 347113 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well write the author < 1431111018 813540 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and send him a correction < 1431111021 957350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: well that means i cannot judge whether you're misreading or not, doesn't it. < 1431111031 4054 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The slides say "All languages are computationally equivalent: Turing Completeness" < 1431111050 84177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the slides actually a comic strip < 1431111053 490899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!1 < 1431111061 400471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there another reason for the gratuitous bolding < 1431111080 738326 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's italics but I don't know how to do that in IRC < 1431111092 48425 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun, so there are non-(programming language)s that are used for programming. < 1431111108 120658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm is this it < 1431111110 246924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1431111120 815741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What about this < 1431111123 210818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be your best approximation hth < 1431111124 998924 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a tab < 1431111147 773586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but it's not irc uses tab for anything else... < 1431111148 551169 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write the professor < 1431111152 320581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+like < 1431111159 4984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's used for tab completion hth < 1431111165 640591 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1431111169 787267 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1431111178 382459 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying key combos is not working well < 1431111192 50018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course it's not displayed as a tab... http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/I.png < 1431111205 190708 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can moke bold like *bold* < 1431111224 315301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's not part of irc itself, but your client. < 1431111231 245105 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dono how to make other stuf < 1431111232 713219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: My underlining didn't show up? < 1431111238 553727 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All that is needed to make a language Turing Complete is a way of specifying what to do < 1431111238 701734 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :next on the basis of the current state of the ‘universe’. In other words, all that’s needed is a < 1431111238 701825 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘conditional branch’!" < 1431111240 372704 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm filtering colors. < 1431111253 58533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bold is easy < 1431111254 370193 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1431111254 716072 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exciting! < 1431111263 689793 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!?!?!? < 1431111263 836575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1431111286 198940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was unaware my irc client was doing the tab completion tdh < 1431111294 749310 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty damn sure you need more than a conditional brANCH < 1431111297 831655 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've found that it keeps me saner. You'll notice that my irssi scheme isn't very colorful either :) < 1431111300 357986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: congratulations, you've entered the "knows more than your teacher" zone hth < 1431111318 893910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/scheme/theme/ < 1431111330 824866 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I do not like this < 1431111338 375338 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I have an exam on this in less than a week < 1431111361 773658 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write the head of CS department < 1431111364 283225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) Are all languages computationally equivalent? [y/n] < 1431111405 341662 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, knowing more than your teachers... When you know everything, you can get a Bachelor's degree. When you realize that you know nothing, you can get a Master's. And when you realize that Professors also don't know anything you can get a PhD. < 1431111433 233030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wow your irssi theme is even more subdued than mine < 1431111440 530887 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Now if I could remember where I've read that...) < 1431111442 739445 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really annoying because this actually contradicts another module I'm doing < 1431111450 85715 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRSSI has themes?? < 1431111469 458995 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irssi.org/themes < 1431111474 388617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: pick the contravariant one hth < 1431111486 820857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not entirely, i don't bold nicks < 1431111492 98112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because everyone knows that only right modules are contravariant) < 1431111507 645026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i use the clean theme < 1431111515 749070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, whoa, dude < 1431111522 138520 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently using whatever the defoult is < 1431111525 466042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i stopped saying "like, whoa, dude" so much, would that make me subdude? < 1431111529 465104 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's a bit of red in there, too. < 1431111534 627930 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what if I'm doing a module over the ring of differential operators? < 1431111541 839988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nvd < 1431111542 558547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1431111576 541113 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional. < 1431111577 940243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nutritional value decomposition < 1431111578 763346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nvd': nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional. < 1431111591 359648 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1431111592 64074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1431111601 861690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1431111603 810930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, and this sentence. < 1431111624 344284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? persistence < 1431111627 885009 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented persistence long ago, and it's been around ever since. < 1431111641 782496 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that one < 1431111642 854171 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, that's a new one < 1431111685 293948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? automatic squirrel feeders < 1431111686 7603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them. < 1431111687 68603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me about your siblings, nvd < 1431111689 42618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many bros persist? < 1431111696 775555 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, one, thus far < 1431111705 568347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1431111719 526837 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whence the "neb" in Taneb < 1431111746 524317 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :neb is two? < 1431111751 683691 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1431111752 441515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1431111784 703474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: the default when i started using irssi was dark background i think so i got rid of it as soon as possible < 1431111813 589221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1431111814 480495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1431111837 968108 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A video game map is usually a torus < 1431111851 41415 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually? < 1431111856 584412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree < 1431111868 903962 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? go < 1431111869 688598 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1431111873 516369 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Civilization uses a cylinder < 1431111902 838036 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, many video games use a rectangle now < 1431111906 621056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think pretty much all first person 3d games...do not use any of those things < 1431111953 330529 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the FF's and Chrono Trigger use toruses. tori? < 1431111956 112799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised Taneb isn't a Tanebvention. < 1431111967 120642 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was that one game that used a hyperbolic projective space < 1431111971 856816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1431112048 251960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/HyperRogue it's just an infinite hyperbolic plane < 1431112081 250236 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it is tori < 1431112092 563748 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/cOlOr.png is as colorful as it gets, I guess. < 1431112110 488994 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, my parents worked together to invent Taneb < 1431112134 437260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: are you going to icfp < 1431112158 95931 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no, I will be in Italy at the time < 1431112168 546820 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't think I can easily afford a trip to Vancouver < 1431112203 330297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theme is http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/inverse.theme if anybody cares. < 1431112218 831451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1431112225 403330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1431112235 803536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1431112235 950641 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1431112246 824989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1431112266 397545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cis < 1431112267 118623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with web comics and unsolvable puzzles. They invented Taneb. < 1431112271 867903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1431112278 653717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1431112287 446152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant irritation < 1431112316 891206 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that's... closer to the truth than I like < 1431112321 318119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -l '\. ' wisdom/* < 1431112322 166356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/atrix \ wisdom/brick \ wisdom/burlesque \ wisdom/ci \ wisdom/finnish \ wisdom/gaspacho \ wisdom/gazpacho \ wisdom/htdh \ wisdom/irrelevant info \ wisdom/norway \ wisdom/oerjan_ \ wisdom/spam \ wisdom/sweden < 1431112322 507180 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1431112322 653718 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                o/`¯º < 1431112326 113536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1431112356 307114 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of my character development since 2007 wouldn't have happened without the CIs < 1431112356 453792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think Civilization uses a cylinder <-- going north of the north pole doesn't quite make sense... < 1431112433 67686 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sphere with two holes would be equivalent to a cylinder < 1431112436 195200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid non-toroidal planets. < 1431112479 764693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: exactly as planned hth < 1431112488 621281 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if that was an objection I didn't get the point. < 1431112494 684566 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, I wouldn't be in this channel < 1431112516 864021 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't have heard of computer science, let alone be doing half a degree in it and be an active member of my uni's computer science society < 1431112542 437060 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't have made a quite large number of friends < 1431112555 674444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's a very mysterious channel, #fooooo < 1431112569 456774 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I needed a quiet place to test :P < 1431112659 229077 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still hasn't got the closing > after hilighted nicks right...
< 1431112741 998174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: objection to what < 1431112798 736012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#FOOOOOD < 1431112804 776375 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to civilization using a cylinder < 1431112811 586269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, i just ate hth < 1431112827 482800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it was an explanation not an objection hth < 1431112836 103854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ate a hairy toe? < 1431112855 381129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks, now i have to eat again < 1431112855 963660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ok then. < 1431112859 350212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really) < 1431112873 667312 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431112877 948514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm sure you could get a second helping hth < 1431112890 540275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well i do have ten of them < 1431112926 89960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls biting his toe nails when he was very small
< 1431112948 105928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls stapling his thumb when he was very small
< 1431112971 792439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1431112971 939244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sure it wouldn't hurt. < 1431112981 352932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told everyone that it wouldn't hurt, and then put the stapler on my thumb and pushed. < 1431112987 817789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wrong hth < 1431112991 460709 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tough lesson < 1431113007 740265 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But valuable, I suppose. I trust there was no permanent damage? < 1431113020 675857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say < 1431113050 32395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i took to biting my thumb maybe 10-15 years after that < 1431113065 221096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably some permanent damage from that < 1431113087 104413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not from the stapler < 1431113132 808480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? htdh < 1431113133 584401 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HtDH is a classic text on How to Design Hotdogs or possibly Hogprams. It is all about functional condiments, and was co-authored by Herence Tao and Don Ho. < 1431113136 900382 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Since everything in a programming language consists of sequences of characters" excuse you, Principles of Programming Languages, Piet is a thing that exists < 1431113174 735380 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't consider apl to consist of character either < 1431113176 405966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd: a language is defined as a set of strings hth < 1431113201 269293 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, but a programming language isn't < 1431113221 896931 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apl uses overstrike, so it isn't a sequence so much as an arrangement < 1431113249 428748 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similarly, befunge can't really be said to be a "sequence" < 1431113264 32805 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a "grid" < 1431113322 993199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"everything can be encoded as a string so we won't bother to distinguish everything from a string" hth < 1431113342 584506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything can be encoded as a unary string hth < 1431113354 598142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that has some overhead tdnh < 1431113386 25112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does every encoding hth < 1431113410 818536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp is sort of not string-based either < 1431113424 519490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're stretching it < 1431113430 265003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if lisp isn't string-based, what is? < 1431113445 903664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's AST based < 1431113465 829873 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. sed < 1431113479 224406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed seems string-based all right hth < 1431113488 848204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me < 1431113504 139246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have two total orderings on a finite set, they determine a permutation on that set < 1431113524 701295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if the set is infinite? a total ordering doesn't uniquely determine a permutation, but what sort of ordering does? < 1431113533 720163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a well-ordering? < 1431113564 181268 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a total ordering plus a given starting point would < 1431113583 498676 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait uh no < 1431113593 630591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a well ordering does, yes < 1431113644 354203 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :since building pattern constructors and such in CGoL is not "programming" because it doesn't use a "programming language", what is it? < 1431113680 607748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting question, is there an ordered set with no non-trivial monotone automorphism that is neither well-ordered nor the reverse? < 1431113707 731078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nor reversely well-ordered < 1431113792 561387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's basically equivalent to your question, i think) < 1431113846 38182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh wait the two orderings must be isomorphic to start with to give a permutation < 1431113867 93626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.g. omega and omega+1 cannot be used < 1431113883 639725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it must be the _same_ ordinal, if a well-ordering. < 1431113939 650301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but once you have that, it becomes equivalent < 1431114327 592319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm \{ 1/n | n \in Z, n \neq 0 \} is neither well-ordered nor the reverse, but has that property < 1431114367 95252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the naturals followed by the naturals in reverse. < 1431114406 496535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh to have the property every subsegment must also have it < 1431114426 479167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(property: no non-trivial monotone self-bijection) < 1431114630 626653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm find a subsegment with the property of minimal cardinality < 1431114658 204763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1431114664 849727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_without_ the property. < 1431115044 186704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help, you said all sorts of things < 1431115143 961033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway well-ordering is just one idea, presumably there are other orderings < 1431115189 596453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i did find one < 1431115211 236774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm wondering if well-ordering + reverse well-ordering covers all < 1431115266 586688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ = followed by < 1431115317 648814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suslin%27s_problem seems possibly irrelevant hth < 1431115429 75239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dth? < 1431115489 157872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know hth < 1431115489 529033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's just a problem about orderings that's independent of ZFC < 1431115519 522530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the original motivation for thinking about this was the thing with finite sets where there's no natural isomorphism between total orderings and permutations < 1431115519 839921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it says nothing about uniquely determined permutations (and indeed R doesn't have them...) < 1431115570 907207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :O-kay, I fixed the > coloring ... < 1431115601 271055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where defining a "base ordering" to go between permutations and total orderings seemed analogous to defining a basis to go between linear maps and matrices < 1431115617 28066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was wondering about the infinite case < 1431115657 235803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since "every vector space has a basis" and "every set can be well-ordered" are equivalent, i was thinking about using a well-ordering rather than just a total ordering < 1431115666 403252 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, after 5? 8? years... < 1431115683 230327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are they equivalent again < 1431115703 676122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, both equivalent to the axiom of choice < 1431115710 622384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they? twnh < 1431115764 603094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wikipedia claims so... < 1431115914 693142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably the boolean prime ideal theorem confusing me again < 1431115925 809449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2000 Toril Aalberg and Ørjan Johansen" < 1431115927 747316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that you twh < 1431115948 9791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as this thing that's _almost_ about bases in a sense, yet weaker than AoC < 1431115955 65457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: doubtful < 1431115970 580339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which thing is almost about bases? < 1431115979 154687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boolean prime ideal theorem < 1431116112 951621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are examples of "basis"-type things other than the two I mentioned? < 1431116207 573222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well "every boolean algebra is isomorphic to a boolean algebra of sets"... would be the one i'm alluding to here... < 1431116227 60686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and what's this thing again... < 1431116340 213402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subdirect representation theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdirectly_irreducible_algebra < 1431116371 712017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it includes at least the vector space and boolean algebra things as special cases < 1431116388 538923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1431116401 834520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not exactly basis < 1431117085 100104 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, regarding the ordering problem, could something like this work? http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/cantor.png The idea is to add one isolated point in the first removed interval; then two each in the two intervals removed next, and so on... those added points are the only ones that have both a successor and a predecessor in the order, and they can be used to approach all points in the cantor... < 1431117087 712156 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1431117091 105994 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...set by a cauchy sequence... so I don't see how the order has any automorphism besides reflection (which could easily be ruled out by adding yet another isolated point to one side) < 1431117105 687529 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1431117315 599844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah that's something like what i was trying to think of, except i didn't realize you could use just finite sets as "tags" < 1431117370 944185 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today: < 1431117375 570451 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let foo = "world" in interpolate "Hello, ${foo}!" < 1431117375 808236 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"Hello, world!" : 12String < 1431117391 301177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i was still thinking of well-ordered sets as the thing to start with < 1431117497 688967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: some day soon it'll turn out idris has become entirely equivalent to perl in power < 1431117532 107480 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, tag, good term. How many tags do we need? Is there a cute aperiodic way of labeling a binary tree that would let us get away with just two different tags? < 1431117564 592108 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let foo = "world" in interpolate "Hello, ${bar}!" < 1431117564 961572 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :When elaborating argument 13x to function 09Melvar.Interpolate.interpolate: < 1431117565 108517 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-191-081.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable bar < 1431117581 955776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i don't think that is wise because the cantor set _itself_ can easily be transformed < 1431117597 967349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't really have the tree stable < 1431117640 871386 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, basically I'm wondering how weird the resulting tree rotations can become. < 1431117726 393393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(abusing the term "tree rotation" -- a tree rotation is a transformation of a tree that doesn't change the order of the leaves) < 1431117744 475288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err leafs. < 1431118204 171949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i suspect a finite number of tags is impossible, by an explicitly constructed isomorphism < 1431118231 539862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, assume that between any two tags all the others must be represented < 1431118256 697364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if not, pass to a subtree) < 1431118301 650764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assume two trees use the same set of tags < 1431118326 878733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i think you can construct a rotation that identifies the tags < 1431118410 438097 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible. < 1431118643 756327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh weekend neighbor party < 1431119142 917766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, Wikipedia. < 1431119159 923047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_physical_constant "A common example is the fine-structure constant α, with approximate value Expression error: Unexpected < operator.[1]" < 1431119177 617562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly that seems quite dimensionless. < 1431119204 647079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a sign that we're doomed hth < 1431119323 849162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd report a bug, but I've forgotten my account. If it's even the sort of account the bug reporting thing accepts. (It speaks of a "Wikimedia unified account".) < 1431119359 735526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they recently unified all the accounts < 1431119375 146544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure someone else will notice and report, in the time it would take for me to figure this out. < 1431119552 936194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's {{physconst|alpha|round=auto|after=.}} < 1431119559 4453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where the bug is < 1431119647 919077 :spatterwothy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1431119779 166155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Physconst examples are all also Expression error: Unexpected < operator. < 1431119805 101496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait; all under "examples", yes, but only a subset under the "available constants" list. < 1431119824 881949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all except one < 1431119833 17913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes, G. < 1431119842 948263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the fine structure constant on that page is not broken. < 1431119858 555902 :^v!~^v@c-68-36-225-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1431119862 879155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1431119876 934221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that page itself hasn't changed since 2012 < 1431119892 587631 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the source, I'm going to guess it's an unmatched comment somehow < 1431119913 517268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw, yes, the freefall police chief is on top of things < 1431119944 638620 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1431120037 306812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see any obvious reasons why some work and some don't, but I guess it could always be something caching-related. < 1431120069 829167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physconst/data was changed semi-recently (May 5), but if it had been broken that long, I would assume someone would have noticed. < 1431120082 647530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, what do people use Wikipedia for if not physical constants?) < 1431120138 639218 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe someone could bring it up in their IRC channel < 1431120318 260354 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1431120379 255178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of stuff, I expect, you can use Wikipedia for. < 1431121074 571686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tried subst'ing the template parts in his sandbox but it only grew larger and suddenly the error message changed
< 1431121083 806076 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1431121204 215828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's becoming sentient. < 1431121212 502777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have an expert opinion on that? < 1431121212 649528 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's not defined < 1431121218 413900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1431121430 935435 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1431121755 767480 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explains why it's erroring, at least < 1431121770 843547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so how do we deal with that? < 1431121771 64148 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: expressions are function calls, but never grow the stack. < 1431121796 461373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i am not sure we're talking about the same language here... < 1431121796 690007 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i wasnt assuming that thered be some response other than booleans." fnord < 1431121832 70200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't seem to like elaborate criticism. < 1431121832 372721 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's a whole bunch of boys and girls sleep together? how romantic. < 1431121868 658023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1431121888 309757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i don't think fizzie wants you to know about such stuff < 1431121888 552935 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: guile was my first < 1431121950 590313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well well < 1431122877 490681 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1431123907 931705 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :guile from street fighter? i mean, beauty is subjective, but still... i don't see it. < 1431124117 14175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps seeing webcomics mentioning TCAF is this weekend so points oren at it
< 1431124327 274204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminal constant applicative form? < 1431124350 154117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :toronto comic arts festival < 1431124380 684858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is that a term, i know what a CAF is, sort of < 1431124383 307826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote document of xurn:pokemon: URI scheme < 1431124391 532690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i made it up hth < 1431124395 297073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1431124427 848593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a caf is a young cow < 1431124438 780879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a young scow? < 1431124454 311461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't haf a better pun than that... < 1431124476 879899 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seem to be many words with silent l < 1431124515 617096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1431124517 958477 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :calf half should < 1431124549 70204 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :would could < 1431124888 763601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :golf < 1431125045 297924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :salmon yolk walk talk milk calm < 1431125072 423198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :l in milk is silent? < 1431125115 485473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same as golf hth < 1431125137 687699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have doubts about golf too < 1431125191 734822 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :milk definitely has a l when I say it < 1431125200 408516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pillow < 1431125212 537434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :colonel < 1431125233 941801 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pillow has at least one l when I say it < 1431125238 340539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swalts shachaf -----###
< 1431125298 501874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't work very well on irc where people can just look things up < 1431125311 874969 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise 'calf' has a silent l.. I don't think I've ever really pronounced it < 1431125326 916714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a game i play is using nonsense words in a conversation with a non-native speaker < 1431125340 22551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hoping they figure them out from context and add them to their lexicon < 1431125351 794951 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are evil tdnh < 1431125383 651402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i've only done that with "scow" and a few words like that < 1431125571 765553 :spatterwothy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1431125898 718481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1431126122 777920 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, some words I pronounced weirdly when I was qa kid. Psychic had a ps in it for example. (I knew that word from pokemon) I also sometimes still say write different from right < 1431126185 746874 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :psai-tshik < 1431126232 410731 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to learn IPA < 1431126341 258819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :psick pronunciation < 1431126415 590781 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda hard to explain how write differs. it sort of had a short u at the start before th r < 1431126449 708034 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vowel from book < 1431126462 817325 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounced the p in psychic as well initially < 1431126486 751017 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also due to pokemon < 1431126535 971276 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all my friends did too, so it was a feature of the schoolboy-dialect < 1431127558 338258 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1431127667 343553 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1431128375 245454 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Quit: mitchs_ < 1431128860 300724 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1431129447 273604 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1431129467 822510 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)