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01:40:40 <boily> pfeuh. -SHRA my humid ass.
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01:45:26 <shachaf> i don't know what these numbers and letters mean but i like how there are so many of them
01:46:33 <ais523> I have a feeling that it would be useful to know what they mean
01:46:47 <ais523> also, lambdabot's answering metar requests?
01:46:50 <ais523> I thought that was metasepia
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01:47:24 <shachaf> It's been lambdabot for a while now.
01:47:31 <shachaf> metasepia disappeared or something.
01:48:52 <boily> <_<'... it hasn't disappeared. well, not totally. >_>'... *whistle innocently*...
01:49:05 <ais523> I don't really think of lambdabot as being a #esoteric bot
01:49:10 <ais523> or at least, a bot that would add features just for us
01:50:12 <boily> and int-e is oerjan's evil twin, therefore lambdie is esoteric.
01:54:07 <lambdabot> Plugin `metar' failed with: connect: does not exist (Connection refused)
01:54:21 <ORin> Why doesn't North Bay exist?!?!?!
02:00:34 <boily> @ask int-e what is your plugin's source? is it the NOAA's NWS?
02:00:46 <boily> @tell int-e (the plugin being metars hth)
02:01:01 <boily> @tell int-e (METAR, if you prefer proper capitalisation.)
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02:07:38 <zzo38> I don't know why CYYB doesn't work
02:19:58 <ORin> since when does sean connery appear in buddy cop movies
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03:41:25 <oerjan> <ais523> technically there's an escape syntax but nobody uses it <-- the underload escaping includes absolutely no way of mismatching (), otherwise people might actually have found it useful...
03:43:00 <oerjan> @tell ais523 <ais523> technically there's an escape syntax but nobody uses it <-- the underload escaping includes absolutely no way of mismatching (), otherwise people might actually have found it useful...
03:50:15 <Taneb> Help I am nervous about my linear algebra exam in 4 hours
03:52:37 <oerjan> this exam will be determinant of your entire future
03:53:18 <oerjan> you can get nowhere without that basis, everything else is orthogonal hth
03:57:04 <ais523> I didn't realise IRC had pun threads :-(
03:57:31 <oerjan> it's not much of a thread if no one is joining in
03:57:40 <oerjan> also i'm sure we've had them before.
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04:11:28 <Taneb> oerjan, my revision has been characteristic, so my knowledge is minimal
04:12:22 <shachaf> oerjan alone is more of a pun threat
04:13:59 <Taneb> Seeing as I only just worked out how to diagonalize a matrix...
04:14:20 <shachaf> Taneb: have you worked out why to diagonalize a matrix twh
04:14:40 <shachaf> you can teach me linear algebra if that'll help you revise for your exam
04:15:11 <Taneb> (that is, I don't know why to diagonalize a matrix)
04:15:38 <Taneb> (it makes calculating the derivative easier, but by this point you've already got the derivative)
04:16:50 <oerjan> Taneb: it also lets you compute matrix powers easily
04:16:54 <zzo38> But if the game is easy then it is not quite good enough
04:17:59 <shachaf> Some good games are very easy.
04:18:04 <Taneb> oerjan, that may be true
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04:18:34 <shachaf> another property of this game is that it makes my window manager crash
04:20:21 <zzo38> It may be good, that doesn't mean it is quite good enough
04:21:51 <oerjan> Taneb: you know the formulas for fibonacci numbers involving powers of the golden ratio? they essentially come from diagonalizing [[0,1],[1,1]] and using that to calculate powers of the latter.
04:22:38 <zzo38> O, I didn't know that!
04:24:34 <shachaf> I didn't know that either.
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04:26:57 <zzo38> What FPGA-on-FPGA implementations are available which aren't vendorlocked?
04:27:43 <ais523> based on experience with FPGA impls, I'd strongly expect all those to be vendorlocked (and quite possibly also containing logic bombs in the free version preventing them being used for anything important)
04:28:18 <zzo38> I mean free-open-source ones, even if they can't use Verilog
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04:28:50 <zzo38> And are generally for academics
04:31:06 <zzo38> I have read somewhere about a FPGA overlay called ZUMA but not much details or download or anything like that
04:33:51 <zzo38> Maybe we can make up a new kind of FPGA and make up an implementation of it that work in other FPGA too, and can also be made as the IC by itself later on too, and it is still compatible.
04:36:12 <ais523> I wouldn't be surprised if FPGAs were used to test new FPGA designs
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04:40:46 <zzo38> I have seen information about a FPGA built from discrete 74xx logics; maybe such a thing can also be implemented in a FPGA I don't know how well it works.
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04:59:28 <zzo38> How slow and inefficient is it exactly to make FPGA-on-FPGA?
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05:28:07 <zzo38> RDF graphs don't have a "root node" like XML documents do, therefore I made up a way of designating something like a "root node".
05:29:37 <zzo38> The way is this: A node with an edge of type <gopher://zzo38computer.org/1ns/meta:primary> leading out of it is considered like a "root node". Do you think this way OK or what else your opinion of it?
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05:33:41 <zzo38> Some people that use RDF seem to hate it
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05:35:59 <zzo38> How can I get weather forecasts by ICAO codes (rather than only current conditions)?
05:38:27 <Nihilumbra> Knees weak arms sweaty when your mom come home and make teh spaghetti
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05:41:12 <fungot> Nihilumbra: translation from plautus. ( 1850), produce the first and most respectable minorities in the house of commons
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05:41:34 <oerjan> zzo38: i think that's what TAFs are
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05:45:12 <zzo38> Can you please be more specific?
05:47:05 <oerjan> zzo38: e.g. allmetsat.com has forecasts
05:47:55 <oerjan> oh and here's wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_aerodrome_forecast
05:49:13 <oerjan> fungot: i didn't know plautus wrote about spaghetti
05:49:14 <fungot> oerjan: the chief magistrate derives all his authority from the people, as of almost every man who goes to them in the end the better for hearing sermons and joining in public prayers. but we cannot be surprised at the mildness of the atmosphere, that the act of king william, nor any fnord but " lights out." you do not propose to fill your magazine page with long words as it does. it is a grand and beautiful consummation, and i
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05:56:06 <zzo38> I want to fix my weather service on gopher to display both current weather and forecasts.
05:56:38 <zzo38> I also want to support such thing with SQLite, and to allow many other internet services on SQLite.
05:56:42 <zzo38> And also on gopher.
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08:14:58 <int-e> @tell boily I used aviationweather.gov which at this time returns one (non-working) IP more than www.aviationweather.com; the latter is indeed an alias for www.aviationweather.l.noaa.gov
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08:17:30 <int-e> So I guess this currently has a 2 in 3 chance of working.
08:24:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Random Brainfuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42966&oldid=42962 * Keymaker * (+89) Added a small program.
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10:18:35 <oerjan> are you in such a channel that you would know?
10:18:58 <int-e> oerjan: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/haskell/15.05.19 around 2:44
10:20:48 <oerjan> so what did you change
10:21:13 <int-e> I reverted https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/commit/9783b17fb08923956aec3b440f68af50dc7f0701 more or less
10:21:14 <oerjan> b_jonas: there's not actually an @info command hth
10:21:24 <int-e> (I did not, actually, update the branch yet)
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10:24:02 <oerjan> int-e: well then you still have the ghci bug
10:24:32 <int-e> yeah but it's really a ghci bug :P
10:25:53 <int-e> I felt that it was the best I could do to stop mauke without spending hours of time on the problem (which I should currently spend on other things...).
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10:27:07 <lambdabot> shachaf is in ##crypto, #ghc, #haskell-gsoc, #haskell-infrastructure and #haskell-lens. I don't know when shachaf last spoke.
10:28:42 <int-e> Note that I may disable it again. I don't know whether it was disabled due to odd behavior (like forgetting what a person last said) or whether it was causing other problems as well (say, leaking memory).
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10:50:00 <int-e> "Please contact your system administrator." ... haha. "Hi, int-e, did you, perhaps, move lambdabot to a different host?" -- "Why, yes I did, why?" - "Well, ssh is complaining that the IP address and ssh key of the host changed." -- "Well, that's to be expected." ...
10:52:15 <oerjan> int-e: at least your sysadmin is always responsive twh
10:52:17 <lambdabot> int-e said 2h 37m 18s ago: I used aviationweather.gov which at this time returns one (non-working) IP more than www.aviationweather.com; the latter is indeed an alias for www.aviationweather.l.noaa.gov
10:53:52 <int-e> boily: the .com there should be .gov
10:54:07 <boily> int-ello. for metasepia I used ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/observations/metar/stations hth
10:54:32 <int-e> and I changed the bot to use www.aviationweather.gov now, so the bogus IP should not cause trouble anymore.
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10:55:35 <boily> ORin: HELLORin. lambdabot now answers to CYYB!
10:55:52 <int-e> https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/master/lambdabot-reference-plugins/src/Lambdabot/Plugin/Reference/Metar.hs is the (not yet updated) code btw. using ftp would be a bit of work.
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10:56:47 <int-e> (the server name should be a configuration option really... oh well)
10:59:50 * oerjan notes DMM finally updated the mezzacotta frontpage with the new features
11:01:39 <oerjan> so i can finally use it as my daily starting point again
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11:11:22 <oerjan> somehow i don't think their new food review site is going to fly
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12:10:33 <Taneb> The exam didn't go too badly
12:10:49 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover will be glad to know that I haven't got 100%
12:11:27 <Taneb> I will be glad to know that I've otherwise done reasonably
12:11:37 <Taneb> Probably around 80 to 85%
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12:12:53 <Taneb> Except I forgot how to make a change-of-basis matrix
12:13:02 <Taneb> Or find the Jordan normal form the proper way
12:13:18 <Taneb> The way that gets me the matrices to transform it
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12:55:34 <int-e> . o O ( how hard could it be? )
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14:25:31 <Jafet> oerjan, highlander programming?
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16:53:35 <oren> 5 hours from marten river to tornto. pretty good!
16:54:46 <coppro> you should go to toronto, it's much nicer
17:02:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Random Brainfuck]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42968&oldid=42966 * Somelauw * (+13) /* Examples */ One code cell
17:11:55 <zzo38> I am writing the "Frequently and unfrequently asked questions" section of AmigaMML now. Do you have other question to write on?
17:16:28 <Taneb> "Why does my Computability and Complexity module seem so easy? I skipped most of the lectures and practicals"
17:20:48 <Taneb> Perhaps it is because I first got involved in computer science with Esoteric Programming Languages
17:20:59 <Taneb> Which involve the question of Computability and Complexity quite often
17:21:20 <Taneb> So I knew a lot of the content already
17:22:03 <zzo38> Yes, perhaps it can be why. Esoteric programming is the sideways and upsidedown and twisty path of computer programming.
17:22:42 <Taneb> Also this makes me quite good at figuring out what small programs do but I get hopelessly lost with large programs even when I know the language
17:24:35 <zzo38> This is so far https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/amigamml/wiki/Frequently_and_unfrequently_asked_questions but if you have other question about AmigaMML then please tell me I can try to write it on there too
17:24:57 <Taneb> zzo38, "What is AmigaMML?" is a more appropriate question I have
17:26:53 <zzo38> OK now I added that one
17:27:26 <zzo38> Do you think this answer is OK? "AmigaMML is the computer program for writing music in .MOD and .XM format, by using music macro language, and by working as a filter like UNIX programming design."
17:27:47 <Taneb> I might check AmigaMML out
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17:48:30 <zzo38> Now I added a few more stuff including the license; probably some people like to know these thing too.
18:16:00 <Taneb> fungot, fnord fnord
18:16:00 <fungot> Taneb: " fables": fnord v. " fable" 16.), has told us, that the insolent cambridge pedant must be put out of the difficulty, again, a great man; and i feel confident from its antecedents, that it has never been darkness any thicker than that.
18:17:04 <zzo38> Hopefully the possibility to use CC0, Unlicense, WTFPL, and public domain, is acceptable to anyone.
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18:25:01 <int-e> . o O ( What about people who only use software because of the thrill of violating copyright? )
18:25:45 <Taneb> int-e, I think it is still copyright to zzo38
18:26:59 <int-e> Right, I guess they could write to him rejecting all those licenses... and then continue to use the software, provided that the donation to public domain is ineffective.
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21:28:08 <ORin> stupid wireless password
21:28:53 <ORin> why is it so long!?!?
21:33:17 <ORin> Im' working on syntax highlighting for a few esolangs
21:35:08 <ORin> Including syntax highlighting for the highlighting files
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21:37:22 <ORin> ideally, I should also make tools to convert hylytr files into the highlighting syntaces of various editors
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21:53:23 <boily> ORin: HELLORin. are you in Toronto?
21:57:44 <lambdabot> CYYZ 192100Z 28019G24KT 15SM SCT035 BKN045 14/06 A2999 RMK SC3SC4 PRESRR SLP155
21:58:16 <ORin> gad dang it is it fuchsia or fuschia or fushia
22:00:16 <boily> fungot: fuch. sia.
22:00:16 <fungot> boily: to this judge douglas answered that they can be exhibited justly, in inseparable union, the closest correspondence, and the majority of the young gallants of rome were eager for the appearance of extraordinary fortitude in his enemies, and to all that.
22:00:33 <Phantom_Hoover> listen to titanium on a loop for about 6 hours and say the first thing that comes to mind
22:00:54 * boily sings “I am titaaaaniiiuuum ♪”
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22:03:01 <ORin> stone hard, machine gun fired at the ones who run, stone hard like bulletproof glauhauhauhsss!
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22:03:50 <ORin> Hmm apparently I don't actually know the lyrics
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22:57:48 <ORin> I really don't understand how it can say my variable is "set but not used"
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22:58:50 <ORin> It's used as an argument to printf for god's sake
22:59:29 <tswett> So the variable's being used after the last time that it's set?
23:00:10 <ORin> Oh... I see. I accidentally two variables with the same name
23:00:23 <tswett> That sounds warnworthy.
23:00:38 <ORin> So it is complaining that the one in the outer scope is never used
23:01:15 <ORin> that was confusing, but only due to my own stupidty
23:02:05 <ORin> I think a warning about duplicate variable names would be helpful
23:03:42 <ORin> but I am resigned that warnings will rarely point out the actual problem in any piece of code)
23:05:16 <tswett> Yeah. Warnings aren't problems; they're things that indicate that *somewhere*, the programmer has probably made a mistake.
23:23:59 <FreeFull> I know well enough to not ignore any warning unless I understand why it happens
23:24:05 <FreeFull> At least, with reasonable compilers
23:29:34 <ORin> Well, at least I got it working. now my mod of ed has interactive edit in all commands
23:30:40 <augur> they ought to give a line number
23:30:51 <augur> "the variable 'x', declared on line 100, is never used"
23:33:49 <ORin> it says the line number like
23:35:04 <ORin> http://postimg.org/image/ngxwsbk49/
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23:39:56 <shachaf> oerjan: that wasn't too evil of you hth
23:46:01 <ORin> back from the logs
23:46:31 <ORin> I didn't see oerjan do anything evil (today...)
23:56:23 <lambdabot> CYUL 192300Z 23026G35KT 15SM FEW040 FEW070 21/10 A2965 RMK CU1AC1 CU TR SLP040 DENSITY ALT 1200FT
23:56:41 <boily> CU indeed. the sky is darkening at an alarming rate.