< 1432684823 161792 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PART :#esoteric < 1432684858 110692 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. helloren. that is disgusting! < 1432684862 104603 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1432684884 201957 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pouring here yesterday, with rainy rain and watery drops. < 1432684897 713585 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your metar must be one of the longest I've ever seen! < 1432684903 935580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes the clouds < 1432684908 114806 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and your station's still in need of some maintenance) < 1432684928 209879 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow, the clouds will be pokable. no bike for me then. < 1432684928 743594 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know < 1432684938 8246 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `$' at the end. < 1432684947 489507 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "fix me"? < 1432684955 966970 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, yes. < 1432685014 932882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what all that stuff after RMK means < 1432685076 363482 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so have you got a functional fast computron ytet < 1432685214 59755 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AO2 is something. SLP is Sea Level Pressure (1022.1 hPa). P0002 is also something. 60108 is definitely something. but T02000178 is something else, whereas 10289 is approximatively something. I think 20194 is something, and so is 55007. < 1432685252 948092 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may be wrong < 1432685259 259641 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet. social life (and not quite social life) got in the way. < 1432685267 69194 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :half of those things could be random garbage < 1432685273 161311 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's broken < 1432685292 390181 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those fields have meaning; I just can't remember them as they are US specific. < 1432685318 369793 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to do with temperature and pressure changes in the last hours, cumulative precipitations, etc... < 1432685360 700737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1432685361 189545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 270000Z 22008KT 20SM FEW030 FEW045 SCT250 18/13 A3001 RMK SC1SC1CS2 TR AC SLP163 DENSITY ALT 200FT < 1432685415 402564 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: west coast? < 1432685438 547286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, CYVR is Vancouver airport. < 1432685451 16602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1432685451 235443 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 262353Z 27013KT 10SM FEW020 17/09 A2999 RMK AO2 SLP156 T01670094 10183 20133 57007 < 1432685470 145120 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I meant to ask: you're there? I admit the question was poorly phrased. < 1432685486 489108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I live near there < 1432685494 358336 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: see, even shachaf has the Mysterious Number Fields. < 1432685507 390697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every METAR field is a mysterious number field hth < 1432685508 463563 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks the The File just to make sure... < 1432685519 151590 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: agree < 1432685528 629657 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. zzo38 lives over there. < 1432685542 102369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: zzo38's whereabouts are revealed in the whois database hth < 1432685578 193029 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cool place < 1432685586 220422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The airport is a local call from here and so is the studio that make Slugterra television shows (I did call them, and they asked me if I was calling from Canada) < 1432685588 590136 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but this is too straightforward. < 1432685611 267937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you prefer gopher? < 1432685612 726330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mailing address in the WHOIS will reach me as long as you put my name (Aaron Black) on it. < 1432685618 662822 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1432685637 534746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of mail would I send you? < 1432685651 153057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably nothing; I am just mentioning it in case it is ever important. < 1432685792 412891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you call the tv show zzo < 1432685805 583440 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also where does that nick come from? < 1432685860 342280 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily could mail you things < 1432685869 69015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember where the nick comes from. I called the TV show to ask how to buy the tapes < 1432685914 12267 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I now know what to mail you next. < 1432685935 412151 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I tried phoning zzo38, but either it's not the right number, or he doesn't want to answer. < 1432685957 225781 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there is no good reason for him to answer < 1432685966 121154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: he can answer any question you have right here < 1432686012 304965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can answer the question here. The telephone number listed on the WHOIS is not guaranteed to reach me, and I do not recommend using it. < 1432686017 637014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i can't see myself being interested in this tv show < 1432686038 978496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like it, that's OK, but I and my brother do like it even though it is a bit strange kind of TV show < 1432686068 431967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is your brother younger than you < 1432686072 514729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't absolutely the best kind of television show, but, it does seem to have better captions than some < 1432686087 7524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to tell you my brother's age < 1432686105 365353 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know your age, so telling me whether he is younger wouldn't tell me his age < 1432686156 289738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but still I don't want to tell you. < 1432686167 730331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1432688312 798003 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1432688518 713705 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1432689276 115686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1432689677 121560 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1432689854 170293 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: BILATERAL CHICKEN < 1432691367 909815 :const!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1432691790 711930 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1432691814 554226 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1432691949 922152 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1432691950 278663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 270100Z 19009KT 15SM FEW120 SCT260 26/17 A2995 RMK AC1CI2 SLP138 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1432693150 720687 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1432693304 24508 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1432693623 8449 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1432694480 33767 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :invariable < 1432695963 480000 :KnightArm0!~irc@200.109.195.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432695987 190747 :KnightArm0!~irc@200.109.195.40 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1432697537 85453 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1432698692 455877 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1432699271 612825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are the most common internet language codes? < 1432699567 465297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Oracle database actually uses CESU-8 for its "UTF8" character set." < 1432699611 345065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they should not call it "UTF8" since that can cause confusion < 1432699615 567768 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you input a four-byte code for a high-plane character? < 1432699757 912790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How pathetic is it that a type of bug is so common it's effectively its own encoding? < 1432700120 345208 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many stuff stuck using UTF-16. < 1432700132 109981 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(poorly) < 1432700297 511249 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "a=%c1 _pa a=%8F _pa" | scrip7 < 1432700298 81162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"a=%c1 _pa a=%8F _pa" | scrip7 < 1432700307 691826 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "a=%c1 _pa a=%8F _pa" | scrip7 < 1432700308 338265 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-63 \ 18:Can only logarithm numbers. < 1432700372 678237 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "a=%c1 _pa a=%8f _pa" | scrip7 < 1432700373 309795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-63 \ -113 < 1432700393 409638 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "a=%c1 _.a a=%8f _.a" | scrip7 < 1432700394 64552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1432700416 965383 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretically, the above is a capital O < 1432700440 305132 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "a=%c0 _.a a=%80 _.a" | scrip7 < 1432700440 941539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1432700466 950153 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, the above isn't right! < 1432700483 501737 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "a=%c0 _.a a=%80 _.a" | scrip7 < 1432700484 135039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1432700502 895298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "a=%c0 _.a a=%81 _.a" | scrip7 < 1432700503 543025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1432700538 892953 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why an overlong encoding of U+0000 gets displayed like that? < 1432700554 812669 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1432700691 362024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is that CLI messages, commands, protocols, etc should be in American English (even though I am Canadian) but that documentation and GUIs should be localized to whatever is your language (e.g. Canadian) (I mean documentation for CLIs can be localized too). What is your opinion of this kind of things? < 1432700991 431191 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLI messages should be in Sarus. < 1432701056 329733 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, specifically in a variant of english based on military radio communication. < 1432701389 575511 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLI messages should be in the user's language as far as is possible, but perhaps each message should be repeated in formal english for clarity of technical terms which are lacking in many lanuages. < 1432701487 952080 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In japanese most of the technical terms are katakanized english anyway, so maybe for japanese I wouldn't bother) < 1432701586 535495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I think they should be ASCII < 1432701780 956859 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESU-8 is 💩 < 1432701827 935847 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Sarus, you don't even need multiple characters. Just 8 font colors. < 1432701873 559375 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be possible to color the english message with the sarus message < 1432702113 57514 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Japanese technical terms are funny... < 1432702141 809169 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: They're either katakanized English, or creative use of Japanese Chinese-origin morphemes to calque Latin. < 1432702149 641509 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or Greek) < 1432702417 877631 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if there's a tem in Sarus that works. < 1432702479 816485 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sarus has a very small, context-dependant vocabulary. < 1432702629 506746 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probalby more suited to being a form of assemlber. < 1432702762 767441 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1432703231 178302 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1432703437 149857 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-136-176.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1432705243 515354 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432706030 952972 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1432707124 163606 :invariable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1432708317 112046 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1432709237 381716 :hilquias`!~user@189.115.169.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432709294 210495 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1432711316 23271 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1432713605 412965 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :harro < 1432713712 518071 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the "rinia" < 1432713730 656070 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not on a computer where I can turn that into katakana easily, but try searching the kana) < 1432713733 677499 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm actually < 1432713749 198856 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode (KATAKANA LETTER RI) (KATAKANA LETTER NI) (KATAKANA LETTER A) < 1432713753 870582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432713756 316638 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1432713764 340775 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat unicode < 1432713764 888609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: unicode: No such file or directory < 1432713769 388660 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1432713769 976354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys, os \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U[+])?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ os.execvp("multico < 1432713819 771876 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode "KATAKANA LETTER RI" "KATAKANA LETTER NI" "KATAKANA LETTER A" < 1432713821 362475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432713876 843678 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+30EA U+30CB U+30A2 < 1432713878 484746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432713928 748601 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+30ea U+30cb U+30a2 < 1432713929 668392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432713936 87674 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1432714523 8992 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://languagengine.co/blog/sierpinski-triangles-in-bitwise-logic < 1432714525 693154 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone's interested < 1432714539 97748 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i showed the channel this a long long time ago but i decided to write a blog post about it now, so < 1432714546 846588 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with interactive things! < 1432714548 241788 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1432715177 36771 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1432715398 223789 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1432716186 253560 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: isnt it? its such a cool little thing < 1432716221 783901 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am tempted to play around with it myself < 1432716269 874131 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1432716887 816240 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1432718990 721117 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Excess Flood < 1432719041 364969 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1432721890 292591 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1432721944 641629 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1432722733 78905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode "KATAKANA LETTER RI" "KATAKANA LETTER NI" "KATAKANA LETTER A" < 1432722733 810913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​リニア < 1432722747 73789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ^ -- the thing with `foo passing everything in one argument strikes again. < 1432722755 577059 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432722783 281738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's useful, up until the point when it's not.) < 1432723170 403039 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it a little weird we can talk about the GCD in an unordered ring < 1432723353 966118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: call it "special common divisor" if you prefer < 1432723382 458602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I don't mind the terminology, it just shakes my notion of how it's defined a little :) < 1432723509 118862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's special because all common divisors divide it < 1432723542 66414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1432723674 359535 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnoooord < 1432723674 584506 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: that's right! he'll show you! he'll show you! he'll show you all the java libraries with sisc. must be at least. < 1432723688 209601 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1432723724 37526 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode a < 1432723724 684640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] < 1432723730 506081 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A < 1432723732 746381 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A < 1432723733 450407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1432723761 421244 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ポ < 1432723763 122623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+30DD KATAKANA LETTER PO \ UTF-8: e3 83 9d UTF-16BE: 30dd Decimal: ポ \ ポ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 30DB 309A < 1432723773 745174 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode KATAKANA LETTER RO < 1432723774 436409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ロ < 1432723797 364715 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode イ < 1432723798 371469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+30A4 KATAKANA LETTER I \ UTF-8: e3 82 a4 UTF-16BE: 30a4 Decimal: イ \ イ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1432723804 9419 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode KATAKANA LETTER A < 1432723804 656366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ア < 1432723819 302976 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode KATAKANA LETTER A; KATAKANA LETTER PO < 1432723820 204715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432723824 72962 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok can't do multiples? < 1432724015 380801 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode アロイアポ < 1432724016 29724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+30A2 KATAKANA LETTER A] [U+30ED KATAKANA LETTER RO] [U+30A4 KATAKANA LETTER I] [U+30A2 KATAKANA LETTER A] [U+30DD KATAKANA LETTER PO] < 1432724032 854251 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode [KATAKANA LETTER A] [KATAKANA LETTER I] < 1432724033 863912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0009 \ UTF-8: 09 UTF-16BE: 0009 Decimal: \ \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: S (Segment Separator) \ \ U+000B \ UTF-8: 0b UTF-16BE: 000b Decimal: \ \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: S (Segment Separator) \ \ U+000D \ UTF-8: 0d UTF-16BE: 000d Decimal: \ < 1432724064 88997 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uniencode [KATAKANA LETTER A] [KATAKANA LETTER I] < 1432724064 633838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: uniencode: not found < 1432724068 279493 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1432724080 454242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uncool < 1432724188 57780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhelloman_. I think it's easier to install an IME and type it the way it is :/ < 1432724238 168129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, the geek value greatly decreases from an unbelievable unicode-long-names-over-irc-bot to the run-of-the-mill IME.) < 1432725507 303260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fatal error: uchar.h: No such file or directory < 1432725509 616286 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaat < 1432725575 806694 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems you have no C11 support < 1432725692 331463 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1432725698 26016 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :--std=c11 is accepted though < 1432725956 933760 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1432726039 977213 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, s/no/incomplete/ < 1432726155 707591 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INFLATED CHICKEN < 1432726221 662426 :shikhout!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1432726279 159561 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1432726371 809461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1432726379 347991 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :b_jonas < 1432726515 260530 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1432726515 794834 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1432726598 372471 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432726748 936331 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1432728285 619859 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ahhhh thanks < 1432728306 232054 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I went and saw the ​リニア. it was cool < 1432728533 98921 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-136-176.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1432729781 466510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I *just* demonstrated above how it can do multiple. < 1432729795 415795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'KATAKANA LETTER A' 'KATAKANA LETTER PO' < 1432729796 120617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​アポ < 1432729867 848547 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1432729880 994898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess it needs a DWIM wrapper that guesstimates a separator, ignores surrounding markers etc.) < 1432730060 82562 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PLUS SIGN; BELL; WUZXNOQNKA 8 < 1432730061 97640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432730065 224806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PLUS SIGN; BELL < 1432730066 213700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432730069 145749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1432730091 949774 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode "PLUS SIGN" "BELL" "WUZXNOQNKA 8" < 1432730092 969402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432730099 57363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode "PLUS SIGN" < 1432730100 41760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432730102 236195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode "PLUS SIGN" < 1432730102 949103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+ < 1432730113 684135 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode "PLUS SIGN" "MINUS SIGN" < 1432730114 418579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+− < 1432730119 404775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode "PLUS SIGN" "BELL" "WUZXNOQNKA 8" < 1432730119 839193 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1432730121 170109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1432730128 120661 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg new brainfuck derivative! < 1432730133 784360 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode [ < 1432730134 712328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET \ UTF-8: 5b UTF-16BE: 005b Decimal: [ \ [ \ Category: Ps (Punctuation, Open) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1432730135 832684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ] < 1432730136 812823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+005D RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET \ UTF-8: 5d UTF-16BE: 005d Decimal: ] \ ] \ Category: Pe (Punctuation, Close) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1432730143 445421 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called HYPHEN-MINUS by the way < 1432730154 432549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HYPHEN-MINUS < 1432730155 118498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​- < 1432730164 856097 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINUS SIGN is the wrong one < 1432730176 255233 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LEFT SQUARE BRACKET" "HYPHEN-MINUS" "RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET" < 1432730182 339521 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sets the cell to zero. < 1432730269 840436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "MINUS SIGN" is a comment, right? < 1432731008 233302 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1432731262 907943 :rdococ!5219f1b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.25.241.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432731547 384552 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1432731552 647722 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments are very bloaty though < 1432731566 527523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C" "LATIN SMALL LETER O" and so on < 1432733640 882047 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1432733748 756050 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432733748 967959 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 QUIT :Changing host < 1432733748 968024 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1432733852 132549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am feeling a little more confident for my Groups, Rings, and Fields exam tomorrow < 1432734192 518633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1432734206 707116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Folders14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43065&oldid=41760 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+111) 10added note about encoding < 1432735125 766489 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1432735689 710187 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1432735849 801718 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432736025 187766 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1432736355 439590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I find it a little weird we can talk about the GCD in an unordered ring <-- it's actually a special kind of categorical product (in a partial pre-order category), and the fact it's not necessarily unique is the same as categorical products/coproducts/universal properties being defined only up to isomorphism < 1432736379 254767 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, category theory < 1432736383 700139 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets everywhere < 1432736389 37960 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like Noam Chomsky < 1432736389 786013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEP < 1432736445 637322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*special case < 1432736498 62421 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait… categorical product? … that sounds plausible, I dunno < 1432736514 987569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: morphism between a and b iff a divides b < 1432736517 358603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1432736519 677436 :Weloxux!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1432736525 335741 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd just think of that as a lattice operation < 1432736538 218826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and those are also that kind of product < 1432736542 2414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the inequality in the lattice is given by divides < 1432736547 735676 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, all lattices are categories < 1432736564 37681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the thing is, lattices usually are antisymmetric, that's the thing we drop here < 1432736574 388868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as orders) < 1432736647 441079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can have two "meets" that are not equal < 1432736649 101366 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you need the power of categorical product when there's more than one element that each have a homomorphism to the others, to make the product more specific (hopefully unique) than the max in the partial order or homomorphisms < 1432736678 41647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: wat < 1432736710 660787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'm just saying gcd in a ring does not give a lattice because it's a preorder, not an order < 1432736716 402740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is useful in the category of graphs with graph homomorphisms where the categorical product gives the cartesian product (up to graph isomorphism), which is more specific than what you just get from partial order (which gives it up to homomorphic equivalence) < 1432736736 348342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh… ok < 1432736744 726630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1432736776 967257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also it's not necessarily always defined) < 1432736828 440992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*commutative ring < 1432736844 431074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, you can't have gcd on all rings < 1432736872 673063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :start from a normed ring < 1432737609 237449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I am feeling a little more confident for my Groups, Rings, and Fields exam tomorrow <-- just make sure it's really tomorrow twh < 1432737676 289136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still vaguely remembers sitting in the university canteen when he was supposed to have a group theory exam < 1432737767 921140 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I am not making that mistake again < 1432737780 120033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you did it before? < 1432737804 234114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I got the wrong time for an exam < 1432737806 660247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely forgot that < 1432737815 270848 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought it was a Wednesday, it was actually a Tuesday < 1432737819 747684 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez, that was two years ago < 1432737825 431679 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three years ago, even < 1432737836 307255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an eternity < 1432737861 558649 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :28th of May at 9 AM (presumably BST) < 1432737879 382346 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015 I believe < 1432737888 837163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds plausible < 1432737922 97895 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In D/L/028 < 1432737999 583961 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know at least which building that is in < 1432738009 526445 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I only know of one room suitable for lectures in there < 1432738227 175994 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1432739315 434022 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1432739570 847213 :Weloxux!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Hato < 1432739577 592563 :Hato!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Welo < 1432739691 475859 :hilquias`!~user@189.115.169.219 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1432739809 629078 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1432740077 552676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Goto14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43066 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+624) 10Goto statement considered esoteric < 1432740336 698942 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea! < 1432740343 193579 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :GotoHell language! < 1432740408 144007 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g RA = 1, GOTO printH, RA = 2, GOTO printE, ... < 1432740416 331332 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :RA = return address < 1432740467 512463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1432740491 879977 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1432741169 597960 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1432741370 319744 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-arrazvuqhygqjzns QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1432741610 801400 :rdococ!5219f1b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.25.241.183 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1432742640 562661 :guydreich!choochter@nat/ibm/x-tenkbahbcmrkjttm JOIN :#esoteric < 1432742640 738353 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-hmpqipgrcrcmccfe QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1432742785 539410 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1432743011 813577 :zadock!~zadock@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1432743331 397809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1432743421 886043 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1432743866 889988 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1432744901 848366 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1432745660 56680 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1432745660 458216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 271600Z 22014G24KT 15SM BKN045 BKN250 27/16 A2997 RMK CU6CI1 SLP145 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1432745913 400396 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I heard about the リニアライナー. I think it is supposed to be parsed as "Linear Liner" < 1432746448 539040 :shikhout!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1432746615 412823 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1432746722 880608 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1432746828 363351 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1432747197 786550 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: g2g < 1432747212 268855 :Weloxux!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1432747252 669221 :Weloxux!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Client Quit < 1432747263 480782 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1432747435 965643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :John Nash's beautiful mind has reached its final equilibrium | The Collatz files | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1432748464 813053 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1432749611 419759 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1432750984 295615 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1432751189 806066 :rdococ!5219f1b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.25.241.183 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1432752400 311894 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43067&oldid=43043 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-205) 10/* My esoteric programming languages */ < 1432752468 561654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43068&oldid=43067 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+23) 10/* My unfinished programming languages */ < 1432753231 434315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read in some book it explain a "momentum state"; to try to calculate the quantum momentum I can see how it is working. And then, they wrote about "wave pack state" which again I try to calculate the momentum, but I don't know if it is properly but I can see now it has a imaginary nonzero and is a variable number too but I don't know if I calculated it properly, I know it isn't well-defined though because they say so. < 1432753235 686187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is proper way? < 1432753574 708832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. "raw material" (oerjan will likely pick up on this later) < 1432753751 798242 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1432753774 361428 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fhukeoqvlqcerpum QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1432754592 181845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :metafont is a really sick twisted programming language < 1432754631 892849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew this already, but I'm saying again < 1432754646 702815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to write some nice deceptive obfuscations abusing it. < 1432755087 89937 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1432756321 34090 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1432756442 998038 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztsuqqfxzptrimcz JOIN :#esoteric < 1432756778 83145 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as "descriptive", which I guess is exactly what it isn't < 1432756881 340388 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-136-176.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1432756955 651143 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :descriptive obfuscation might be delightfully deceptive < 1432757005 573921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT is a bit unusual programming language, but it is good for what it is meant for. < 1432757034 515914 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-136-176.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1432757053 628663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The favourite ever deceptive obfu I've ever seen is http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=337612 which masquarades as a question about broken code by a confused newbie. < 1432757070 973990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as to do fonts and graphics < 1432757095 790682 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yep < 1432757179 323159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally it only does pure black/white but it is possible to do other stuff with it to if you make multiple layers and then add specials to tell it how to combine together and another program will command ImageMagick with the stuff in the specials, for example. < 1432757184 204562 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-012-020.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1432757217 588746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yep, metapost uses the same paths but different images and produces postscript/pdf vector output < 1432757226 450295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rgb colored < 1432757240 848453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also cymk maybe? I don't remember) < 1432757318 179029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either, although that isn't what I was talking about; I meant using METAFONT to make raster output. < 1432757344 204895 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1432757346 234771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, people do that too < 1432757353 755073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used metapost for graphics < 1432757366 888382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used metafont much, except for simple tests that would work in metapost too < 1432757374 574039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like PostScript and PDF < 1432757379 333980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an obfu could use whichever you prefer < 1432757407 602520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the postscript output of metafont is of a restricted format so you can parse it (that's how it can be converted to pdf) and converted to some other vector stuff < 1432757416 879842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though of course you could also use a full postscript interpreter for that) < 1432757443 678894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you can parse it much more easily than running arbitrary postscript < 1432757500 460300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did make chess icons with METAFONT too < 1432757525 52389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mouthes of TeX and METAFONT are somewhat similar, but have lots of differences. Both can do things the other can't. < 1432757601 520613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can see that too. < 1432757636 835655 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, fast skipping tokens inside conditions or definitions work very similar in the two languages < 1432757667 134648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/itions/ition bodies/ < 1432757668 637795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also written all sort of calendar-related calculation support in TeX < 1432757708 21406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And a algebraic chess notation parser in TeX) < 1432757736 865535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1432757759 864123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the calendar thing have a real purpose, or is it just eso/obfu? < 1432757760 916377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It can also parse FEN) < 1432757799 174407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, I intended that I can add stuff to print out calendars if I want to do that < 1432757805 163986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is it pure TeX, or does it use the help of external programs? < 1432757814 30536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is purely in TeX. < 1432757836 798872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, printing calendars can make sense, but that doesn't mean you have to do the calculations in TeX < 1432757889 193612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, I also wrote a DVI maker library in Haskell too, so you can use that too if you like to < 1432757976 987459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I found I can do it just fine in TeX, except that I currently have no equinox/solstice/phase-of-moon < 1432758097 684952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you compute easter? or look it up from a table of a thousand easters? < 1432758110 739276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do compute Easter < 1432758118 27497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a table < 1432758121 815104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunrise and sunset dates? < 1432758130 303338 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use getJesusResurrectDate(); < 1432758136 998910 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's actually shorter without a table, because there's pretty short expressions for it < 1432758147 234061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no sunrise/sunset currently < 1432758151 151919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which use only basic integer arithmetic < 1432758197 541754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(provided of course that you want it to work for a few centuries) < 1432758228 184602 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even your grand-grand-grand-grand-grandkids will be able to use it < 1432758236 624530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the file so far http://sprunge.us/EafF < 1432758269 579625 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc39-181.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1432758274 959061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, TeX seem to be the real portable programming language; it is compatible in past and future forever. < 1432758281 623379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yep < 1432758288 515254 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-014.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1432758294 182517 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :metafont too < 1432758305 752048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1432758307 631367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more so than metapost) < 1432758328 4946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1432758345 398859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course it's also possible to write C programs with a restricted subset of C that are compatible in past and future forever, but you have to limit what you choose) < 1432758382 524645 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an operating system written in TeX? < 1432758392 240713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: probably no < 1432758404 995987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that even work? < 1432758426 62148 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, but if it's portable, the os would be portable, too < 1432758447 51539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see in my file how is day of Easter calculated. < 1432758537 809297 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-027.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1432758563 560438 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc39-181.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1432758587 447761 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1432758626 213281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference of TeX in different computer may be a difference of speed, a limit in the amount of RAM available, differences in DVI distance encoding, and differences in floating point; but as long as the computer has enough RAM to compile your document, none of these will affect the render, with the possible exception of slight differences of positioning of some boxes but these won't move other boxes too and make a mess < 1432758772 300338 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-otfgbhqndxerjoci JOIN :#esoteric < 1432758807 860323 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-141.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1432758821 821672 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-027.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1432759243 537613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can put moons and equinoxes/solstices (or even to put all twelve signs) on this TeX calendar program too, then I can print calendar with moons and so on, too < 1432759272 968469 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by twelve signs? zodiac signs? < 1432759294 237525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the twelve astrological signs < 1432759309 146402 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-otfgbhqndxerjoci QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1432759310 22146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1432759362 702754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in terms of the Sun's position, because that is the one related to equinoxes/solstices. < 1432759377 666348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had to do that kind of calculation, I wouldn't try to implement it myself. I'd probably search for an existing good quality library with preferably a C or C++ interface. < 1432759386 251125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a command-line program. < 1432759397 649119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter might be easier. < 1432759435 832777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is; Swiss Ephemeris is a C library (licensed by GPL) which will calculate this and many other stuff. < 1432759447 996488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I wanted to calculate by TeX if possible < 1432759466 922377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike Swiss Ephemeris I don't need the planets though, just Sun/Moon < 1432759487 671229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1432759500 265011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also don't need house systems, sidereal zodiacs, equatorial coordinates, and all of that other stuff) < 1432759787 463871 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eipttbjhilvefftm JOIN :#esoteric < 1432760668 9969 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1432760998 926929 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1432761017 35346 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1432762132 661856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any audio formats support alpha channels, or only pictures do? Furthermore, can any audio formats support *relative* alpha channel values rather than absolute? < 1432762266 929797 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you have an alpha channel in audio anyway < 1432762525 63563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would do the same thing as pictures; but for audio it might sometimes make more sense to have it relative to a specified base value rather than absolute, although not necessarily always < 1432762645 655283 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix level? < 1432762683 502843 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's no 'transparency' in audio, alpha channel for audio probably doesn't make much sense < 1432762708 813355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it would affect mix level < 1432762751 800553 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what use would that have < 1432762767 816282 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally, all audio sources are mixed 100%, so it's like they have 100% 'transparency/alpha' always < 1432762825 111861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By default of course it is < 1432763035 66922 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you need that < 1432763047 582464 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what use would it have < 1432763563 274059 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1432763817 61059 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: dunno how would you record such alpha values? < 1432763820 738643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or create them < 1432763824 437173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than a fixed value < 1432764401 407339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't record them, but they could be created and used during effect processing; the final mixed result (if the output isn't itself meant to be mixed too) will not have the alpha values < 1432764454 840548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the output is itself meant to be mixed, if it has any alpha channel at all it may use relative values if that is applicable to the use of them, such as possibly sound effects played together with background music you might want relative values < 1432764483 359663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1432764501 309218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I also know very little about sound formats < 1432764512 755969 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working with images and videos at work, not sounds < 1432764563 692823 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those video files have a sound channel, because that's how they're recorded by the device (a microphone is cheap compared to an expensive camera so it's often included), but I just ignore that channel. < 1432764578 296222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignore or strip purposefully. < 1432764593 638601 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, out of interest, what kind of stuff do you do with the video? < 1432764625 694382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1432764631 950129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually what else I thought is a kind of program you can try to work with pictures, videos, and sounds, and others, by allowing any number of dimension and any number of channels, although for videos you can have a combination because it mixes animation with sound < 1432764672 215956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: image processing stuff, that is, mostly heuristics trying to recognize features or objects of the video < 1432764680 818075 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1432764688 49252 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can you recognize? < 1432764691 259240 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me that I should do my image recognition homework < 1432764691 789852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm indeed wondering what those puppets are made of... especially as i recall some tales from the french terror... < 1432764720 917862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different operators may use different combination if input/output dimensions/channels, and may support multiple kinds (being "polymorphic"), and some may be generalizable to other number of dimensions/channels, while others may be upgraded and/or downgraded to different number of dimensions/channels. < 1432764727 123885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: video container formats certainly store all of those, and some handling programs handle videos, images, sounds, and subtitles. < 1432764745 942301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm, ping < 1432764762 582266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the same parameter for DPI and sample rate, possibly allowing it to be different per dimension, just the units are different. < 1432764770 770546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can also store arbitrary byte streams to which you give meaning in the future. < 1432764785 360203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, videos and sounds and subtitles are stored as byte streams.) < 1432764833 800833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some global metadata like title, and per-stream metadata, most importantly timestamps for each frame. < 1432764833 976488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that tale i remember may have been a sandman comic... < 1432764919 11751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, a simple delay effect can be generalized to more than one dimension, and although it is one channel it can be "upgraded" to multiple channels. But in this case you can also just have it operate individually per dimension (and possibly also individually per channel, although per channel is more useful for audio than for pictures it might still be useful to deal with alignment for example) < 1432764958 832895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e hah. "raw material" (oerjan will likely pick up on this later) <-- it's hard to do when you're not here tdnh < 1432764959 48016 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1432764970 620554 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1432764986 882286 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey lanmbda < 1432765009 29278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fourier transform are also possible in different number of dimension, so PADsynth could also be made to work multiple dimensions too, making tilable pictures and/or repeatable animations < 1432765012 977121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sure, shifting or slicing in the time dimension is an important enough special case that video handling programs can apply it to all streams together, mostly so that you can concatenate videos in time. < 1432765050 781560 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1432765060 527997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PADsynth also uses Gaussian distribution functions and those too can be made multiple dimensions < 1432765075 699574 :f|`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you want to be able to run multiple feeds at the same time? < 1432765099 434135 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like smoothening filters and edge detection probably makes sense in both cases as well < 1432765139 342151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The framerate will be different for the audio but you can still cause the single dimension of the audio to be programmed as corresponding with the time dimension of video < 1432765163 987458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: patience! < 1432765169 302730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1432765200 375340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also, that doesn't much resemble real-world voltaire. is it some kind of shout-out? < 1432765226 61970 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: smoothing audio and video in time with the same filter is probably a pointless idea, unless you have an ultra-high speed video capture. < 1432765250 165222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I didn't mean smoothing them with the same filter < 1432765251 337472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe not quite, smoothing with like 60 Hz might actually make sense for both < 1432765263 138438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though not too much < 1432765271 96698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you still could do it < 1432765301 288630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what I meant is that the dimensions correspond so that they will cut/move together for example. < 1432765375 514750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, cutting, moving, and concatenating together is definitely done on videos < 1432765397 938192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean video together with any number of audio and subtitle channels < 1432765415 901507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However if the audio is 44100 Hz and video is 60 Hz then it is divisible therefore you can cut/move them together in this way. < 1432765439 802321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The subtitles can be as "event stream" like MIDI is < 1432765446 749081 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: none that I'd recognize < 1432765570 619463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misses google images < 1432765574 164631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1432765585 38153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also misses the ' key < 1432765616 525116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :google images... is still there ... *wonders* < 1432765628 437407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misses google images' magnification popups < 1432765628 647888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some operators, such as brightness and contrast and gamma correction, can be zero-dimensional operators. < 1432765633 788530 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1432765649 303832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when that happens. < 1432765657 551467 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the '/return thing) < 1432765679 418586 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though usually it's \/return for me < 1432765763 463453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes he can zoom with his browser instead < 1432765767 962650 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh well. you were almost right. I should sleep. < 1432765774 107843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1432765875 290749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :image searching for "voltaire comics" didn't really help. in so many ways. < 1432766005 510971 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, why would an ...author?... go by that name... < 1432766013 310733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really inconsiderate < 1432766025 426626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a "cool" name. < 1432766060 642377 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might explain how the Folgios ended up using it < 1432766069 488472 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good night < 1432766168 507519 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and I do hope Voltaire is the real thing and not a fraud like the Wizard of Oz. < 1432766405 160479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well voltaire _was_ probably the smartest man in paris when he lived... < 1432767077 107932 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1432767579 430330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some of thing about how to play back .XM file? < 1432767679 977893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1432767887 320449 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your question about it < 1432768010 755962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know proper ways of how it is supposed to do < 1432768036 578441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as exactly each command, tempo, etc < 1432768065 483317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sample playback and so on < 1432768763 576126 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1432768810 154081 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Estaĵoj de mizera mondo, < 1432768810 394509 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :memoru por ĉiam! < 1432768810 570165 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unuavice per vasta uzo de komuna neŭtrala lingvo < 1432768810 755383 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :altevolua civilizacio diferencas de ceteraj dume < 1432768810 755431 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subevoluaj, se ĝenerale ne degeneraj. < 1432768998 620063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know your kind of language so well sorry < 1432769206 46532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's clearly Esperanto < 1432769211 16321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or some very related language) < 1432769424 105688 :slacko173211!~root@95.153.164.165 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1432769763 701645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another use of zero-length arrays in a C code: #define interface_id(x) struct { char a[(x)&65535]; char b[(x)>>16]; } _interface[0] < 1432770365 715188 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric