< 1433289602 489796 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O NT was released before 95
< 1433289606 42705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you solve the Chu space crossword puzzle at <http://thue.stanford.edu/puzzle.html>, you could win $2000 from Vaughan Pratt
< 1433289620 482262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's enough for air fare to berkeley, where you can have poutine
< 1433289627 999469 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello_. NT was released before???
< 1433289637 451043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, this sounds like a plan which doesn't have any flaws whatsoever
< 1433289661 801430 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plan with no flaw is not the true plan.
< 1433289680 688244 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invent the true plan
< 1433289688 267096 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, NT was released in '93.
< 1433289783 756099 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not *much* reason Windows 95 couldn't have used NTFS (aside from the obvious one of "oh sweet jesus we don't want to change more than we have to, cause Windows software be crazy.")
< 1433289789 609758 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if NTFS isn't older than NT, or if it was only known as HPFS at that time
< 1433289800 485711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a true plan, you should ask Jim from darths & droids, unfortunately he's also in california so it won't help here.
< 1433289801 696521 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS is a fork of HPFS.
< 1433289805 848258 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS probably required proper OS features
< 1433289813 848078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, virtual memory perhaps?
< 1433289814 23708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is that asking whether the language defined has countable members?
< 1433289844 860541 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Win95 has virtual memory.
< 1433289868 253829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, imho maybe
< 1433289876 297692 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I doubt it. You could quite reasonably write an aftermarket NTFS for DOS thing. :)
< 1433289936 372859 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) I meant more that the code for NTFS required ... stuff, not that the file system itself somehow does
< 1433289974 383893 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I don't think it's technically a language in the infinite case, but...)
< 1433290009 784673 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Win95 installer wants scratch space
< 1433290067 318763 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the Win98 installer DOS has format.exe
< 1433290155 756744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: whoa whoa whoa
< 1433290160 199470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposed solution (March 23, 2015)
< 1433290168 993706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never saw that
< 1433290444 665378 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh the Win98 installer formats the disk automatically, I could try that
< 1433290607 629017 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the little "This is why windows is great" things is tied to fily copy progress
< 1433290611 774401 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They go by too fast to read
< 1433290638 295942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what are you trying to do here?
< 1433290660 905601 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanted to install Windows 95 to a VM. Gave up for a bit so installing Windows 98 to a VM
< 1433290673 953868 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad I did because the 98 installer will do what I need for 95, I think
< 1433290799 852206 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:61c:e501:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433290818 9642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1433290819 938 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome toxolotl 
< 1433290827 805381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09toxolotl: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08<http://esolangs.org/>. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.)
< 1433290840 636474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was worried that it was something insane like needing a disk formatted as FAT16 and Windows 95 was the only program old enough to do it
< 1433290867 730451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when we only had the Windows 95 upgrade edition.
< 1433290879 314825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we'd need to put in the Windows 3.11 floppy in order to install.
< 1433290888 170118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: with a windows 9x VM you could get ms comic chat going (though it does tend to crash on normal IRC traffic)
< 1433290901 409733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was both Windows 95 and Windows 98 upgrade editions?
< 1433290905 612915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a big mess, anyway.
< 1433290948 392139 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was dumb enough to grant a program on the WIndows 95 disk (that I don't know where it came from so might be genuine) admin on my real 8.1 machine in hopes that it would work. It bluescreened me, and hopefully was just a bad compatibility issue and not actual malware from 2007
< 1433290956 695338 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*so might not be genuine
< 1433290994 989552 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if you were to plant malware in a pirated OS, I think you'd go for the OS itself, not in the CDEXPO program
< 1433291007 917957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: if it is actual malware from 2007, then any modern antivirus should be able to find it
< 1433291035 874818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why would malware from 2007 end up on a windows 95 disk?
< 1433291058 610551 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I obtained the .iso file in 2007. I don't remember where I obtained it from.
< 1433291184 248415 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Literally anything that can do FAT can do FAT 16 though.
< 1433291187 128902 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay Win95 setup wrking
< 1433291210 645695 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka
< 1433291216 648621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: including formatting programs?
< 1433291219 908356 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: FAT32 has a *minimum* volume size of 32MB.
< 1433291243 460672 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, Win95 wants a "20-digit Product Identification Number"
< 1433291278 702664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that's printed on the CD case, I think
< 1433291287 578757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on the computer
< 1433291307 525040 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a consequence of that, pretty much anything has to do FAT16 just to handle the full range of volume sizes.
< 1433291330 54065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ext2? can you sensibly format a floppy like that?
< 1433291352 877632 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1433291379 312410 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAT32 is unique in having a minimum volume size (beyond "large enough to fit fundamental data structures")
< 1433291397 126199 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I have *done* such a floppy)
< 1433291435 223451 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's slightly trickier would be a FAT12 formatter.
< 1433291448 172362 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though IIRC Windows' formatter and mkdosfs both do that.
< 1433291450 35191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there was a FAT12
< 1433291476 132793 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :floppy disks
< 1433291494 702624 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as very (very) old hard drives.
< 1433291506 580745 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :max size 20 mb
< 1433291532 450318 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, floppies in FAT are FAT12 as a rule.
< 1433291621 255446 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat unrelatedly, fuck ExFAT.
< 1433291672 793230 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with exfat? nobody ever tells me
< 1433291696 222993 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS asserts unspecified patents on it making it impractical to implement in a sane fashion.
< 1433291724 457293 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Erm. In  a sane fashion for many vendors.
< 1433291781 233216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Perl now has a warning for trying to create an infinitely long string using syntax like "a" x "Inf"
< 1433291787 537914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what that did before
< 1433291800 643494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO it should just create an infinitely long string, but I guess I'm in the minority here
< 1433291826 784042 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is linux ntfs support so slow?
< 1433291856 279453 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, write speeds
< 1433291896 971380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux NTFS write support is relatively new, that might be related but I'm not sure
< 1433291930 896809 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we talking the kernel NTFS or the FUSE one?
< 1433291947 331930 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :whichever ubuntu 15.04 uses
< 1433291955 124797 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the FUSE one then.
< 1433291962 44589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I would have guessed kernel
< 1433291964 231476 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyevmblttymnzaxo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1433292423 749417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Code like /$a[/ used to read the next line of input and treat it as though it came immediately after the opening bracket."
< 1433292427 99965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a weird bug
< 1433292431 104129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of like Shellshock
< 1433292451 198930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it works in interpolated code? I'm guessing no without an eval, in which case it's unexpolitable
< 1433292488 836735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, unexploitable anyway; it lets bits of the code you can't control affect bits of the code you can, which is the opposite of exploitable, really
< 1433292499 313091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most you could potentially do is get hold of what one line of source looks like
< 1433292534 419345 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a chart of OEM keys, but I don't know which version of Windows 95 this is
< 1433292571 48553 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the bits of code you can't control attempts to process the bits of code you can, could htat be a problem?
< 1433292605 112403 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What are the options of versions?
< 1433292622 645879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e print 33 x ~3
< 1433292623 363252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :panic: memory wrap at -e line 1.
< 1433292643 269342 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 95 OEM Version, Windows 95 OEM Version (02) ... (16)
< 1433292646 966587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's actually the intended output
< 1433292649 344033 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely an OEM version
< 1433292873 10411 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they all work
< 1433292876 760765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e "${<<X}"
< 1433292877 536763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find string terminator "X" anywhere before EOF at -e line 1.
< 1433292885 132465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl --version
< 1433292886 214185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 (v5.14.2) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ (with 88 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) \  \ Copyright 1987-2011, Larry Wall \  \ Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the \ GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit
< 1433292891 912252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, too early to crash
< 1433292924 83891 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"System error Cannot read from drive A"
< 1433292927 793934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e s/${<>{}}//
< 1433292928 612799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near "<>{" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
< 1433292939 313191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1433292942 194017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e s/${<>{})//
< 1433292943 46797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near "<>{" \ Missing right curly or square bracket at -e line 1, within pattern \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
< 1433292953 47965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bizarre line of code
< 1433292960 774321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's managing not to crash
< 1433293090 586606 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now two CD drives attached, Win98 in first one, Win95 in second
< 1433293263 597320 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows Protection Error
< 1433293351 196230 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've written a (deliberately bad) fizzbuzz which runs in O(n^5) time
< 1433293393 911720 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :!
< 1433293438 446511 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, only O(n^4) I think
< 1433293502 885802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is it plausible-looking code, or does it have no obvious scope for optimization?
< 1433293521 38890 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's plausible code written by a Haskell beginner
< 1433293540 835747 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is new to programming
< 1433293552 316459 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is so much obvious room for optimization
< 1433293589 22359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm wondering what the computational order of a Prolog FizzBuzz that doesn't use "is" is
< 1433293594 682644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :written in the most obvious way
< 1433293595 193279 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting an execution cap of 20% worked
< 1433293598 174610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably O(n^2)
< 1433293609 568600 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess the CPU's too fast. There is a patch for it, not sure if I should bother
< 1433293719 458691 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experimentally, it seems roughly O(n^3.3)
< 1433293895 587103 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems odd
< 1433293908 849864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler optimizations? cache effects?
< 1433293923 389175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe...
< 1433293926 748310 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts down Win95 for now
< 1433293959 359030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to run this with -O0, though, it took 4 minutes for n=3000 (no options to GHC), and I'm running it with n=4000 now
< 1433294013 130601 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is a restart required between partitioning and formatting?
< 1433294101 554012 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :since whe?
< 1433294104 340302 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*when
< 1433294109 933328 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm just surprised it's a non-integer exponent
< 1433294138 608137 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the program I think it's probably quartic
< 1433294143 964699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :noninteger exponents aren't that uncommon are they?
< 1433294165 221599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've never really encountered them?
< 1433294192 381600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember some Big Important Algorithm having one but not what it was
< 1433294193 426957 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :4^.5?
< 1433294205 123060 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka, since DOS or Windows98's DOS or something
< 1433294210 318583 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :an obvious practical example though is the trace of a matrix with n entries
< 1433294237 72098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: matrix multiplication?
< 1433294237 720784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you normally use side length as the n with matrix algorithms...
< 1433294274 420567 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^(y/z) = (z_root(x))^y
< 1433294276 199969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, probably that, yeah
< 1433294358 270273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The current O(n^k) algorithm with the lowest known exponent k is a generalization of the Coppersmith–Winograd algorithm that has an asymptotic complexity of O(n^2.3728639), by François Le Gall."
< 1433294381 427282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some people suspect the limit is actually 2
< 1433294386 363977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc
< 1433294387 433721 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "polynomial time" mean?
< 1433294400 943884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: in time bounded by a polynomial of input size
< 1433294435 519818 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n^k) execution time, more or less
< 1433294489 185008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always use n^k because any other polynomial has one of those as an upper bound (once n > 1)
< 1433294526 616066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note n is the input size and k is a constant)
< 1433294817 743481 :Hallucinate_!~IceChat9@host-69-145-22-91.stn-co.client.bresnan.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433294835 807669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Hallucinate_ 
< 1433294836 779734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallucinate_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1433294848 719954 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://lpaste.net/4279646507705040896 is the source if you want to look
< 1433294893 481150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see
< 1433294899 61241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isFizz and isBuzz are O(n)
< 1433294909 503284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you think a newbie could manage to get NPlusKPatterns working? i guess e might be using hugs.
< 1433294928 44617 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's in a bunch of older tutorials
< 1433294952 150782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: haha at that mapM_
< 1433294955 395717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just really blatant :-)
< 1433294982 462694 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's the kind of mistake I could imagine myself having made
< 1433295013 789525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm confused by is if the ++ in the fizzbuzz function "stacks" with the isFizz and isBuzz being inefficient
< 1433295025 267691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long list is on the left, so this is O(n^2)
< 1433295040 936475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it leads to a combined O(n^2) for fizzbuzz, not O(n^3)
< 1433295041 816815 :Hallucinate_!~IceChat9@host-69-145-22-91.stn-co.client.bresnan.net NICK :Hallucinate
< 1433295046 239329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ++ needs to go through the left, and to know the length of the left it has to do isFizz and isBuzz
< 1433295076 396794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see
< 1433295084 222465 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah, and then the last is O(n), and it does it n times
< 1433295089 100512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong about the mapM_
< 1433295089 655094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the same length in both branches of the case
< 1433295100 513931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, depends if GHC spots that or not
< 1433295119 973503 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the function being mapped is what's wrong
< 1433295136 167347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Taneb already has a function to generate a list of fizzbuzzes, but he's creating a list of each possible length and then mapping last over it
< 1433295142 84540 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that
< 1433295161 666576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapM_ itself is a perfectly reasonable function, but that use of it is ridiculous
< 1433295172 503909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, it's actually one of the comonad laws on List, if you read the lists backwards
< 1433295192 792642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right
< 1433295213 418997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think that use of ++ is O(n^2) overhead
< 1433295225 169290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right associative
< 1433295278 856785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :comonad laws on List?
< 1433295294 712357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the comonad in Mon you get from the adjunction?
< 1433295311 214376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: List as a comonad, one of the comonad operations (M x -> x) is head, and the other (M x -> M M x) is a list of all suffixes of the input list
< 1433295319 61619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean, I'm at my phone and missed falls the conversation.
< 1433295323 28325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, this works on nonempty lists only
< 1433295328 604431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, noon-empty lists.
< 1433295344 395188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb's doing basically that in reverse: prefixes and last
< 1433295366 489060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the comonad I described called?
< 1433295392 416487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not aware of a name for it
< 1433295397 783169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even knew it existed
< 1433295621 660394 :Hallucinate!~IceChat9@host-69-145-22-91.stn-co.client.bresnan.net QUIT :Quit: Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm
< 1433295623 193299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's in Mon it only works if Monoid x, i take
< 1433295637 886382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :M = []
< 1433295649 181809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(M x -> x) would be mconcat
< 1433295653 136223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mconcat
< 1433295654 384149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoid a => [a] -> a
< 1433295677 279280 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EPICHOROID CHICKEN
< 1433295692 259131 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think what would was described would be mconcat . reverse
< 1433295696 92490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(M x -> M (M x)), what's that
< 1433295712 136406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't think shachaf included reversal
< 1433295733 161072 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ais523 said if you read the lists backwards, which I was trying to include
< 1433295737 314663 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway...
< 1433295748 772646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: shachaf's comment wasn't directly relevant to your code
< 1433295865 899864 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
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< 1433295898 448487 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what's the verdict on the complexity of my fizzbuzz?
< 1433295932 367546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1433295954 157209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the last element gets isFizz etc. evaluated
< 1433295963 78707 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting from CD into HD broke the VM... but blue screened even when I got rid of that
< 1433295969 87248 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, are you sure?
< 1433296016 106031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait right
< 1433296022 253442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO
< 1433296026 970925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1433296051 191526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: map (:[])?
< 1433296105 578012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: either that or just (:[])?  i cannot wrap my brain around that much.
< 1433296127 775360 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the core for the program hasn't optimized the isFizz and isBuzz checks out
< 1433296144 454671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For non-last elements
< 1433296227 653695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> ais523, depends if GHC spots that or not <-- i think because of bottom, ghc cannot legally do that
< 1433296269 84782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't it infer that isFizz and isBuzz are total?
< 1433296283 591918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it possible to create an infinitely large Integer in Haskell?
< 1433296301 303505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, firstly, they take Int, not Integer
< 1433296308 672369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> or even knew it existed <-- every adjunction between two categories gives a monad in one, and comonad in the other.
< 1433296313 830563 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if they took Integer, they would be undefined with n = -1
< 1433296350 162708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good points
< 1433296367 126121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist
< 1433296369 896293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so unnatural
< 1433296410 211193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <ais523> after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist  <ais523> they're so unnatural
< 1433296414 462222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1241) <ais523> after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist  <ais523> they're so unnatural
< 1433296438 944919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I didn't even realise that was a pun until you `addquoted it
< 1433296450 810030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better
< 1433296468 327269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> or is it possible to create an infinitely large Integer in Haskell? <-- nope, only bottom.
< 1433296519 876481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would have been embarrassing would be if I'd missed the pun altogether
< 1433296521 805854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, time to go home
< 1433296592 455369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1433296711 376986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, F U -> I, that's mconcat. I -> U F, that's (:[])
< 1433296767 448032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. And you have FU->FUFU = F eta
< 1433296786 903881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it maps (:[])
< 1433296794 371625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is pretty awkward on a phone.
< 1433296866 24808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :F I U = F U -> F U F U = F (U F) U
< 1433296887 643777 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :///////////////////////////////////////
< 1433296887 860474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :+
< 1433296888 260166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should be F (:[]) U in a sense
< 1433296891 391860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops
< 1433296934 619952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but (:[]) is polymorphic hth
< 1433297030 654229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that my brain doesn't have quite the power to convince itself of the last step
< 1433297146 6686 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream
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< 1433297831 343145 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go to sleep now, goodnight!
< 1433298803 24625 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the function that turns a number like 77 (7 * 11) to 60 (6 * 10) ?
< 1433298996 605848 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean from (x*y), where x and y are prime, to ((x-1)*(y-1))
< 1433299023 978742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it has a name
< 1433299056 972507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1433299071 881438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the euler totient function
< 1433299103 703641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, if a prime can occur more than once, you need to be more specific.
< 1433299118 214086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well
< 1433299272 355636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your definition isn't very clear on what to do for numbers _not_ of that form.
< 1433299280 816023 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea
< 1433299315 565741 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i remembered involved semiprimes
< 1433299317 845998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you have two different primes x and y, the totient function fits.
< 1433299333 87259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is what you need for RSA and the like
< 1433299415 725078 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is glad his "big brother", the NSA, is "supposed" to stop watching this channel...
< 1433299440 995628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is publicly logged hth
< 1433299479 75522 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you don't know what i mean by "Big Brother", see "1984")
< 1433299483 995558 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1433299486 793880 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit
< 1433299497 914353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read that book
< 1433299518 198104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long ago
< 1433299523 704544 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got cofused after the first sentence
< 1433299528 627761 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*confused
< 1433299536 817856 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i read the wikipedia entry
< 1433299548 208414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what
< 1433299557 169464 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :1984
< 1433299595 74749 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was a bright cold day in april when the clocks struck 13."
< 1433299607 840948 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was the first line
< 1433299636 10405 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :got confused
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< 1433300009 527060 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently recovering from being drugged by his doctors with cognitive-inhibiting side-effects for four years before it got bad enough that he forgot that his name belonged to him and was not just a nickname.
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< 1433300158 182043 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :before i started on that medication, I used to shake like crazy. Sgeo probably reembers.
< 1433300184 152783 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remembers
< 1433300564 855295 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of an extension?
< 1433300579 208863 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :contraction?
< 1433300699 798705 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1433300767 491317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of extension
< 1433300822 407664 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :reduction
< 1433301700 439100 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: like an extension to a language
< 1433301729 968740 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the term for a version of a language which removes, rather than adds, features
< 1433301757 695840 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple?
< 1433301804 747644 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1433302813 252693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :restriction?
< 1433302836 367805 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subset?
< 1433302836 547892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ^
< 1433303678 79942 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all
< 1433303689 871614 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away
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< 1433308449 190767 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
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< 1433312701 940545 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all
< 1433312710 467776 :Lyka|Phone!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away
< 1433313281 850200 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka|Away: what kind of drugs did they put you on and what for?
< 1433313326 750029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello
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< 1433315006 236343 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The OTHER fizzbuzz I wrote, features a 250 character type signature
< 1433315049 418491 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consisting only of functions between type variables and a three-character type synonym
< 1433315061 62648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :((Num -> Num -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) -> Num -> Num -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) -> Num -> Num -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n
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< 1433315263 299791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with type Num = forall a. (a -> a) -> a -> a)
< 1433315719 102547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.. of course..
< 1433315866 851060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1433316246 479827 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid to ask what that type signature does in your fizzbuzz
< 1433316375 235678 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fixed point combinator
< 1433317169 632108 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix (?f :: m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n)
< 1433317171 633940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Unbound implicit parameter
< 1433317171 809722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      (?f::m1
< 1433317171 809804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :           -> m1
< 1433317202 732648 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> fix (f :: m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n)
< 1433317204 16965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match expected type ‘m1
< 1433317204 192795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                  -> m1
< 1433317204 192878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                  -> (s1 -> n1 -> n1)
< 1433317235 912388 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> fix (f :: (m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n) -> (m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n))
< 1433317238 61470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match expected type ‘(m1
< 1433317238 237323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                   -> m1
< 1433317238 237408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                   -> (s1 -> n1 -> n1)
< 1433317249 527727 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix ?f :: m -> m -> (s -> n -> n) -> n -> (a -> s) -> (a -> a) -> a -> s -> s -> s -> n
< 1433317251 134996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Unbound implicit parameter
< 1433317251 310771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      (?f::(m1
< 1433317251 310858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :            -> m1
< 1433317253 750070 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1433317256 337741 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:(
< 1433317272 834070 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :):)
< 1433318312 984837 :edwardk!sid47016@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433319047 336778 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work
< 1433320762 98051 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433322311 305569 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433322664 567807 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taben's always abusing Haskell.
< 1433322668 620890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Taneb
< 1433322677 774479 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you abuse Haskell?
< 1433322677 960659 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: are we also trying.' automated and must be in the form of the continue button. norris is a month.... in error!
< 1433322903 943817 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work
< 1433323000 668268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433323221 323947 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433323342 897678 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433327408 132970 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433327433 241210 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo > ()
< 1433327433 416818 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () > ()
< 1433327437 141009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1433327458 527853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "fungot"
< 1433327458 703655 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: probably get an inventory of the right of the best to keep the california power market.
< 1433327461 636631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot
< 1433328325 429621 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot?
< 1433328325 605400 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: right where they left what i
< 1433328337 218992 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good!
< 1433328337 394567 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: know where the meeting on the construction industry."? 11 am.
< 1433328370 628418 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no. but I got some obscure fuzzy meeting Thursday afternoon with our QC VP.
< 1433328370 804063 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: next to equity. pete wilson both the financial deal that was from the new more efficient.
< 1433328383 397494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh do you know anything about the calculus of constructions?
< 1433328383 573199 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: for that reason, the work of the sheet that you send to the top the ibm and america two countries separated and an expected time frame.
< 1433328389 759673 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pete wilson. I'll remember. her name was pete wilson.
< 1433328389 955482 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bond issuance- 12b not enough that the business of new/ existing application systems or business trip you wish to have quicker to put you on the same for the other susan scott...i'm with nat gas spread in 2001 that will not let
< 1433328410 113358 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. calculus of construction?
< 1433328494 227798 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Calculus of Constructions (CoC) is a type theory created by Thierry Coquand. ... I'm also hearing it's the basis of Coq.
< 1433328573 915934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I asked fun‍got because it mentioned the construction industry.
< 1433328631 961387 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well?
< 1433328632 136986 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they partially to increase. moritzburke associate oakland. dte energy trading and the will of the california legislature.
< 1433328644 637381 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fun. x⃐y⃑
< 1433328673 903564 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more fun. a⃖⃗
< 1433328786 926625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works c⃬⃑lockwise and c⃬⃐ounterclockwise
< 1433328803 568648 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructive chicken.
< 1433328809 198711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I messed up the arrow below the first c
< 1433328825 576665 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1433328832 811244 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode x⃐y⃑
< 1433328836 244269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X \ UTF-8: 78  UTF-16BE: 0078  Decimal: &#120; \ x (X) \ Uppercase: U+0058 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \  \ U+20D0 COMBINING LEFT HARPOON ABOVE \ UTF-8: e2 83 90  UTF-16BE: 20d0  Decimal: &#8400; \  ⃐ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 230 (Abov
< 1433328854 192410 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chicken harpooned
< 1433328855 51128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: chicken: not found
< 1433328858 336874 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1433328864 238761 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`CHICKEN HARPOONED
< 1433328864 901972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: CHICKEN: not found
< 1433328869 287372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh.
< 1433328961 388726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. The font that gucharmap uses gets this wrong... "combining rightwards harpoon with barb downwards" points to the left.
< 1433328988 47326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this is better anyway. c⃔ c⃕
< 1433329028 530809 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hope they don't ever handle a real harpoon
< 1433329046 791825 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :harpoon should be double-ended, so you can't misorient them.
< 1433329525 316245 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all C struct types with fields of all the same names and matching types matching types, or do they have to have the same struct name if they have a struct name at all?
< 1433329727 785190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a {int x;}; struct b{int x;}; struct a a = (b){};
< 1433329734 816966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:52: error: ‘b’ undeclared here (not in a function) \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1433329736 492110 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc struct a {int x;}; struct b{int x;}; struct a a = (struct b){};
< 1433329737 438207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:59: error: invalid initializer \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1433329739 985035 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: somehow that made me think of these devices, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Drevnosti_RG_v3_ill130c_-_Caltrop.jpg
< 1433329744 940785 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nope)
< 1433329780 101578 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc typedef struct {int x;} a; typedef struct {int x;} b; a a = (b){}; // probably not either
< 1433329781 86227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:57: error: ‘a’ redeclared as different kind of symbol \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1433329791 715578 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc typedef struct {int x;} a; typedef struct {int x;} b; a x = (b){};
< 1433329792 560887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:43: error: invalid initializer \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1433329815 899891 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc typedef struct {int x;} a; a x = (a){};
< 1433329816 684183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:16: error: initializer element is not constant \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors.
< 1433329866 929060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah, the safety harpoon with extra spikes to be sure you skewer your prey properly.
< 1433330158 754192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I don't think "matching type" is a C term at all, but "two structure -- types declared in separate translation units are compatible if their tags and members satisfy the following requirements: If one is declared with a tag, the other shall be declared with the same tag. If both are completed anywhere within their respective translation units, then the following additional requirements ...
< 1433330164 757845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... apply: [member stuff]."
< 1433330225 396392 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I didn’t know what the C term was. Thank you.
< 1433330863 56129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SELFREFERENTIAL CHICKEN
< 1433330940 158211 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433331012 638795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet misremembered
< 1433331013 758193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MISREMEMBERED CHICKEN
< 1433331158 370321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Note also the requirement of two separate translation units. After a  struct { int a; int b; } x; struct { int a; int b; } y;  in a single translation unit, the types of a and b are not compatible, AIUI.
< 1433331173 580032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, the types of x and y, I mean.
< 1433331481 995921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet dismembered
< 1433331482 731522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISMEMBERED CHICKEN
< 1433331502 954225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poulet
< 1433331533 868593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1433331692 690036 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /usr/share/dict
< 1433331693 552627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1433331767 639869 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433331767 852093 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 QUIT :Changing host
< 1433331767 852180 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433331785 893414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does hackego have a word list?
< 1433331833 920110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word
< 1433331840 474554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ralminisialobiitatifiiiscerk
< 1433331842 450625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (cd wisdom; ls) | grep ed$ | wc
< 1433331843 516933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​      0       0       0
< 1433331853 316352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1433331859 937224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :positurial
< 1433331939 364374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find / -name words 2>/dev/null
< 1433331970 757975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1433332022 716296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. > echo $(grep ed$ /usr/share/dict/words | shuf -n 10)
< 1433332022 929982 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :randomized snaffled encased enlightened respired ransomed sunned appealed endowed unclogged
< 1433332027 699915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(love the first one)
< 1433332100 271651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido
< 1433332101 270914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
< 1433332109 686169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew
< 1433332130 451449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(realized my sed was potentially shoddy)
< 1433332241 724916 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433332241 900614 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host
< 1433332241 900677 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433332326 922889 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work
< 1433332458 290937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see xkcd's beret guy has a new job.  at least this one seems to have long time prospects.
< 1433332665 490066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also foresee weight gain in zeetha's future.
< 1433333168 856814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think agatha might need some lessons from klaus in how to ignore unauthorized biographies twh
< 1433333445 803096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I have not read today's GG yet. Some people have to work ;)
< 1433333460 699704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1433333663 810268 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1433333666 655418 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433333851 608129 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds
< 1433334041 215356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it an inconvenient truth.
< 1433334386 992269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what, coca-cola doesn't actually contain cola?
< 1433334945 3010 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433335218 413722 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1433335290 426625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1433335384 558865 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1433335628 234637 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433336267 733154 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it contain coca?
< 1433337835 266388 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fabucgchkbjuwbwd NICK :glowcoil
< 1433337841 234901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains "natural flavourings".
< 1433337980 623571 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1433338152 624344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been under the impression that it still contains something derived from processed coca leaves, though.
< 1433338240 195432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly, they extract out the cocaine and <strike>sell it on the black market</strike> properly dispose of it.
< 1433338404 721531 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433338711 477776 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433338936 663677 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1433339010 741758 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433341317 439466 :Lyka|Away!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka
< 1433341383 567716 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1433341419 145603 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: inderal (propranolol). it's a beta blocker, and i took it for tremors caused by lithium
< 1433341424 674440 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433341596 750825 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sourceforge has now hijacked Nmap. http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194
< 1433341618 980404 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1433341662 304074 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the port scanner, right?
< 1433341695 546558 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1433341722 857063 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF has hijacked the repo and is distributing bogus trojan downloads like they did with GIMP.
< 1433341738 503111 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1433341791 347796 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. SF always offers the newest file, not the correct-est file
< 1433341801 995976 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1433341826 53146 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: because they are running out of money, and this will make them some.
< 1433342074 893600 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433342334 984415 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe GPLv4 will include a clause against cnetization (mcnetization?).
< 1433342615 320441 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1433344253 776859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43135 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+276) 10Created page with "== Quine ==  ++>+++++++>++>++++++++>+>+++++++>++>+++>++>+++>+++>+++>+>+>+++++++>++++>++>++>++++++>++>+++>+>+>+>++++++++>++>++++++>++++>++>++++>++++>++++>+>+>+>++++++++>++>++>+..."
< 1433344370 810470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43136&oldid=43135 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+23) 10
< 1433344425 922447 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esowiki201529A strikes again
< 1433344431 631112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43137&oldid=43136 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+4) 10/* Quine */
< 1433344568 320382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43138&oldid=43137 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+9) 10
< 1433344743 249284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43139&oldid=43138 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+73) 10/*  */
< 1433345115 853726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BFQ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43140&oldid=43139 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+35) 10
< 1433345623 538015 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout
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< 1433348316 777241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, oh dear.
< 1433348610 23272 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1433349210 305886 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away
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< 1433350174 680202 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433350336 525081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is it, dear?
< 1433350512 195116 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1433350599 351165 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Feel free to answer while I'm gone, I'll check the online logs
< 1433350695 667408 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433350786 668672 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the world has received another brainfuck clone, apparently with the sole purpose of writing a quine.
< 1433350947 392202 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit. https://twitter.com/synackpse/status/606088427222769664
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< 1433352446 482547 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Class and such
< 1433353126 976622 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar BOM
< 1433353142 212171 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err,
< 1433353158 496431 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar VABB
< 1433353158 883837 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :VABB 031710Z 29007KT 3500 HZ SCT020 31/25 Q1007 NOSIG
< 1433353907 393179 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI
< 1433353908 24584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 031720Z 05009KT 020V100 9999 FEW080 BKN100 26/14 Q1021 NOSIG
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< 1433354496 913475 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433355646 916621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out how to make this bluetooth headset work with my laptop:
< 1433355656 220833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall pulseaudio, sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart; pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover; disable and enable bluetooth from menu, then try to connect to headset. From the computer.
< 1433355673 393353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This appears to work. And it is stupid. And no "normal" user would ever figure it out...
< 1433355909 47764 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433356618 83601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpallo
< 1433357316 365365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pong
< 1433357319 360337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1433357322 157307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ping
< 1433357324 129305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not pong
< 1433357348 580841 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh! People in American Samoa are generally not citizens of any statew.
< 1433357358 720646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1433357359 930980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom__________hoover/OK you got me there.
< 1433357370 54444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1433357374 203264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database.
< 1433357382 309108 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. they are not US citizens, or citizens of anywhere else.
< 1433357412 668159 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is really weird.
< 1433357603 256972 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically, American Samoa doesn't count as US soil for purposes of birthright citizenship, and people there are unlikely to otherwise have a citizenship)
< 1433357649 762336 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. Fucking. Weird.
< 1433357751 402792 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues twiddling thumbs hoping to hear back from Google.
< 1433358059 583604 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1433358631 490011 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v
< 1433359202 471843 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what do you expect google to do?
< 1433359396 517977 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1433359442 323569 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Hire me.
< 1433359487 866611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, you think Vorpal is going to hire you just like that?
< 1433359500 525184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you watching John Oliver's show or is there another recent source for this information?
< 1433359514 302293 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Random Wikipedia.
< 1433359533 305497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1433359534 886153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of Google things do you want to do?
< 1433359595 460154 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Keep Google running".
< 1433359612 640393 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the cliff notes version of the site reliability engineer role I applied for)
< 1433359632 755231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I used to do that.
< 1433359643 767416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "Google" and "running"
< 1433359646 669421 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1433359675 34788 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their hiring process is less efficient than I'd like though.
< 1433359678 539339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're running Google off a cliff?
< 1433359690 194534 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1433359690 470662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo move to Mountain View
< 1433359699 587488 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I applied for.
< 1433359793 782008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you don't apply for a specific team or anything like that?
< 1433359804 488740 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1433359835 430291 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433359875 797895 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1433359885 987413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently some people do know in advance. But I didn't know what I'd be doing until the end of my first day.
< 1433360178 173171 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the least, interviews went well and were pretty fun.
< 1433360274 750665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do interviews in Mountain View?
< 1433360302 250325 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1433360328 254699 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't have that much time in the area though: practically flew in, interviewed, and flew out.
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< 1433367959 107465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_(bishop_of_Ely)
< 1433367960 398746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nigel
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< 1433370828 323638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> What sort of Google things do you want to do? <-- * briefly wonders if this channel has more bots or google employees
< 1433370852 299606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it only has one Google employee hth
< 1433370863 524604 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Google recruiter has said that all the interviewers thought I was quite good, and believes I have the job. *Unfortunately*, there's a few steps between that and actually getting a confirmation.
< 1433370867 303184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might soon have two?
< 1433370869 383777 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurrah.
< 1433370880 907689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's had as many as three in the past
< 1433370884 180479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe more
< 1433370886 670674 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe, but am not sure, that we have more than three bots
< 1433370888 235646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well we cannot really say about all the lurkers, can we?
< 1433370905 641965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: plausible
< 1433370912 433788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrahq
< 1433370923 58218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I never finished writing my bot in Agda
< 1433370928 17385 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really got started, I guess
< 1433370939 456953 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433370944 33464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should be on gmail hth
< 1433370979 672139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do we have more than three bots?
< 1433370979 847844 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: over the next few years on the strength of the enron's unique. charles rangel and ways of doing.
< 1433370989 972651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1433370990 148454 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron* europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1433371003 211004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there was an Enron style.
< 1433371133 645058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An SRE told me that SRE's are the people who fix the things SWE's broke. But he might have been a biased source.
< 1433371142 473057 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why Gmail?
< 1433371149 579624 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That sounds about right.
< 1433371157 101598 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. what's a SRE twh?
< 1433371199 68841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I was on Gmail SRE.
< 1433371199 695451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1433371203 618272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The person who fixes... oh, you mean the abbreviation? Site Reliability Engineer.
< 1433371220 49354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SWE is Soft Ware Engineer
< 1433371239 445466 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Site reliability engineer". More-or-less a dev ops sort of role, where you're a developer that is most heavily focused on keeping things working.
< 1433371251 82004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yafgc hasn't updated
< 1433371258 349346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much for the new regular schedule
< 1433371275 61230 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the support guy who has the misfortune of knowing how to code?
< 1433371283 248762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is it more fun to break things or fix things?
< 1433371305 467930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think that's an accurate description.
< 1433371308 936410 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I managed to pass this Acronym Check by rolling over 15 with my wisdom modifier.
< 1433371318 219480 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're *not* a customer facing support guy or anything.
< 1433371329 234869 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think more "the guy with the pager when a server breaks"
< 1433371333 619270 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1433371342 406953 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuuurgh. bleh! not a job for me at all.
< 1433371353 791432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that, and "the folks who make sure it doesn't break in the first place".
< 1433371354 598489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my hours in accordance with the sun, and on weekdays.
< 1433371358 697303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pager, yeah, that's instant disqualification
< 1433371407 486509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if SREs were paged every time a server broke...
< 1433371407 662252 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding is that you're on call on rotation rather than all the time.
< 1433371414 203086 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's nightmarish.
< 1433371415 53687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like "the datacenter broke"
< 1433371418 699091 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention, yes, that.
< 1433371443 8119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The processing pipeline broke, and we're losing $20 million per hour."
< 1433371448 135996 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "the datacenter spontaneously disappeared".
< 1433371455 475113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, on-call rotations, and people in multiple time zones, depending on the team.
< 1433371465 801794 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eh? 20e6 $/h???
< 1433371468 969667 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're more likely to get paged when something is actually causing issues, not just when a server crashes because c'mon, this is Google. Hardware malfunctions are a parameter you design for.
< 1433371490 953938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably usually not quite that much.
< 1433371524 37065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://investor.google.com/earnings/2014/Q4_google_earnings.html says that Google's revenue for 2014 was $66e9
< 1433371527 837116 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope. like, every day with an outage, we're losing a whole country's GDP. la dee da.
< 1433371534 959255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AAAAAAAAAAAH!
< 1433371538 820507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Google's revenue, according to Google, is $66 billion/year, so if you break all of it, it's like $7-8 million/hour.
< 1433371540 884245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's $7e6 per hour.
< 1433371556 133606 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably depends on the hour.
< 1433371556 397923 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still impressive.
< 1433371561 111093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably.
< 1433371561 286553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, you might have to try pretty hard to break all of it.
< 1433371588 292922 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should try and temporarily break the Whole of Google, just to see what happens.
< 1433371613 803358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today a colleague told me that I will be a "noogler" ('new employee') until I break something in production.
< 1433371647 435075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were discussing the definition; there seem to be multiple opinions on when exactly you're no longer new.
< 1433371662 458714 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're older than the other guys?
< 1433371668 183213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway with a big system like Google "down" isn't really a binary value.
< 1433371686 852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some part of it is always down. You just try to keep that number low.
< 1433371690 301196 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of think of everyone hired after me as "new" employees
< 1433371695 621646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's pretty vague, too. Though there's a page that shows your percentile.
< 1433371697 468376 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within tolerances.
< 1433371698 40303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it was 6 years ago
< 1433371706 576521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "X % of employees were hired after you".
< 1433371712 820430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's your percentile twh
< 1433371727 613002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot. Less than 10% are newer than me, anyway.
< 1433371762 765950 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vkzrhoicwuzxhydo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1433371816 389743 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a newbot?
< 1433371816 565322 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as the first. thanks. fred
< 1433371827 284403 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm not fred.
< 1433371827 460132 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: confidential attached the " i
< 1433371838 838413 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. your secret identity? I knew it!
< 1433371839 14209 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: keep the faith and in a manner the person that you outbid the person i know in it that i wanted you to know that the document that i went the spirit of the earnings of each investment choice against its risk of losses the power and to gaming the market, and to get any more " out of the plants that not only survive, but that the different,
< 1433371863 341432 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you google?
< 1433371863 517179 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 1. i watch people, sip. power authority of the work that we
< 1433372735 238477 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433373385 400564 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
< 1433373707 553959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` poulet amnesiac # hoily
< 1433373708 571066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMNESIAC CHICKEN
< 1433373898 743568 :toxolotl!~beard@2a02:2028:61c:e501:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1433374077 458465 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` poulet existing # hellørjan
< 1433374078 296324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXISTING CHICKEN
< 1433374092 151780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not amnesiac. only temporally unreminisced.
< 1433374121 112313 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1433374512 36694 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iboqdpaumrljjaga JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433374601 402738 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote chicken
< 1433374602 588811 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :304) <monqy> my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge.  when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup \ 605) <Darth_Cliche> There's British KFC? Kent
< 1433374627 141804 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the monqy one could be boily
< 1433374650 81658 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433374707 738848 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:710:6a01:f563:ad43:c2e4:fb10 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1433375025 318933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you monqy
< 1433375064 459771 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :D
< 1433375084 80665 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1433375087 351586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: does that mean you are monqy
< 1433375121 565137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the broth thickens
< 1433375129 292711 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but monqy is not currently here
< 1433375134 270527 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~
< 1433375151 204629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1433375153 761203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl/Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language
< 1433375155 494802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: i haven't seen em for a *long* time
< 1433375158 836847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen monqy
< 1433375159 12448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen monqy.
< 1433375191 210329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: what information do you have that makes you sure boily is not monqy twh
< 1433375200 55064 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret
< 1433375207 776263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP*
< 1433375242 712570 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511869.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was given a programming test. Which was not fizzbuzz.
< 1433375280 57307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1433375281 165529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banach-tarski/"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski".
< 1433375294 762119 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1433375304 928565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1433375305 985730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src.
< 1433375307 165315 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shachaf what are symmetric lenses
< 1433375328 347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy who are you
< 1433375347 298392 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm nys :<
< 1433375354 90107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not monqy hth
< 1433375360 594800 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i'm serious i'm not!
< 1433375387 746465 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1433375396 990549 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw a branch of lens called "symmetric" and i was wondering what it was all about
< 1433375438 525644 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1433375478 205435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1433375486 242828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are a few different meanings of the term
< 1433375503 511742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that branch refers to the "(g a -> f b) -> g s -> f t" kind
< 1433375557 828232 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION squints
< 1433375567 799357 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the edit lenses thing?
< 1433375665 669769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is g a Functor or ContraVariant
< 1433375669 970182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry, was idle for a moment there (cooking supper and washing dishes). apparently I'm monqy and/or mnoqy?
< 1433375686 159004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if the latter, this would seem a subset of profunctor lenses?)
< 1433375705 651405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g is Functor
< 1433375709 411971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1433375714 696728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you get contravariance because it's on the left side of the ->
< 1433375724 28086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen mnoqy
< 1433375724 203617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen mnoqy.
< 1433375731 594063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's the theory.
< 1433375741 908705 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1433375755 140856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm
< 1433375762 466704 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. well. chickens exists. Canada exists. I'm not mnoqy. qed.
< 1433375787 237377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a fine argument, although you should include some pho or poutine hth
< 1433375804 670070 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think today i just managed to get a hold of why an initial F-algebra is a thing
< 1433375815 679952 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i have the mental capacity to grasp these symmetric lenses
< 1433375834 43788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :initial F-algebras are great
< 1433375839 614775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambek's lemma is p. nifty
< 1433375858 597971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the usual category thing where it's obvious
< 1433375862 130345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote TomLeinster
< 1433375862 305975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TomLeinster says: In subjects such as number theory and combinatorics, some questions are simple to state but extremely hard to answer. Basic category theory is not like that. To understand the question is very nearly to know the answer.
< 1433375923 28643 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :c:
< 1433375975 776357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one day, there'll be a Vietnamese poutine. it's going to be glorious.
< 1433375997 752658 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's lambek's lemma.
< 1433375998 801872 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.>