< 1433462925 436533 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433463604 818068 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgvrmxapoomlnndu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433463607 952049 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>? < 1433463608 744063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>?: No such file or directory < 1433463669 985744 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. the above has... problems < 1433463700 327546 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firstly, 0 should be to the left of the other numbers < 1433463791 873423 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secondly, the letters on homerow are not the most common letters < 1433463837 549537 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433463855 416039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433463858 750473 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thirdly, ? should be the default and / should be shifted. ? is used a lot more than / in writing < 1433463889 230847 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and similarly, the [] should be where () are and vice versa < 1433464177 808917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorak is thataway hth < 1433464340 773897 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/1234567890-=qwertyuiop^çàasdfghjkl;èzxcvbnm,.é\!@#$%?&*()_+QWERTYUIOP¨ÇÀASDFGHJKL:ÈZXCVBNM'"É is the Most Bestest Layout :D < 1433464373 671707 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433464433 566487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that québécois < 1433464481 1127 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Canadien Multilingue Standard. < 1433464526 688971 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically there should be a dedicated ùÙ key, and àÀ should be to the left of the return key...) < 1433464578 847309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1234567890+\qwertyuiopå¨asdfghjkløæ'ZXCVBNM;:_ where i had to press space after a few dead keys hth < 1433464630 130437 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only ^¨ is dead here. other dead keys are on AltGr and ISO level 5. < 1433464698 227255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|±@£¢¤¬{}[]½¬§¶`~}°{«»µ<>´ < 1433464700 525251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `¨^ here < 1433464752 507606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah plenty more with AltGr < 1433464758 518292 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a distinct lack of dead keys here. < 1433464815 447415 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234567890qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>? is truth < 1433464821 518390 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¹²³¼½¾¸łœ¶ŧ←↓→øþ~æßðŋæßðŋħijĸŀ´zx¢“”ʼnµ―·­¡£¤⅜⅝⅞™¿˛ΩŁŒ®Ŧ¥↑ıØÞ°¯˘Æ§ÐªŊĦIJĿ˝ˇZX©‘’♪º×÷˙ < 1433464855 971866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ŊĦIJĿ < 1433464857 93941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+014A LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ENG] [U+0126 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH STROKE] [U+0132 LATIN CAPITAL LIGATURE IJ] [U+013F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH MIDDLE DOT] < 1433464926 646227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ĸ < 1433464927 455247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0138 LATIN SMALL LETTER KRA] < 1433464944 218176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN CAPITAL LETTER KRA < 1433464945 376160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433464948 584836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1433464978 543833 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433464981 905426 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're expecting Unicode to be logical. this is a bad habit you should depart from. < 1433464989 215188 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyellos! < 1433465009 535976 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnyello < 1433465023 596649 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you capital letter kra? < 1433465046 480146 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1433465240 790096 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1433466528 816881 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433466529 42378 :lleu!~gnomebad@158.223.174.95 QUIT :Changing host < 1433466529 42517 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433467214 453535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1433467417 497413 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433467491 486048 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433468061 503683 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: OILED CHICKEN < 1433470501 367801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433471139 140029 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1433471719 520225 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1433472044 614886 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433472088 954131 :gde33!~gde33@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433472427 992354 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433473393 487323 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433474533 27128 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433474772 805078 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1433474858 958303 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433475798 435960 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433476110 290988 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433476325 431225 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433477702 676296 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433478014 690733 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1433478017 726900 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :0b1_ken0b1 < 1433478093 554085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and his friend arthur ditto < 1433478156 760618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478157 841640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh/twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1433478171 539256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478172 753153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship/friendship wisdom < 1433478181 942319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478183 185516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck/Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1433478202 711642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? functor < 1433478203 596078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functors are just morphisms in the category of small categories < 1433478241 122931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about functors between non-small categories? < 1433478264 423474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky < 1433478307 533413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to add "(small)" at the beginning, but apparently no one calls them small functors. < 1433478316 342572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1433478317 417237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478318 416564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott/elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. < 1433478329 236913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478330 591921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lystrosaur/The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. < 1433478342 424852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also absent. < 1433478361 910927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? < 1433478401 999298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg you're right he must have invented a time machine < 1433478452 107809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: synchronicity hth < 1433478496 661576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478497 825314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs/1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1433478516 252192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that all about < 1433478517 846635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478521 872729 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fukyobrainz/fukyobrainz is yet another brainfuck derivative however with identical instructions. < 1433478534 624112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478538 279205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd/hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1433478541 415384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433478543 647483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah/aah ambiguous acronym here < 1433478556 78641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's broken < 1433478569 736414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone didn't slashlearn < 1433478574 566242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/aah //' wisdom/aah < 1433478576 679699 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433478650 911123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1433478654 312046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir le; ln -s ../bin/learn le/rn < 1433478656 677215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `le': File exists < 1433478667 940279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -ld le < 1433478668 756840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 5 04:32 le < 1433478685 891627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's that bug < 1433478701 630319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1433478721 621574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478722 881605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 3: wisdom/le/rn: No such file or directory \ Learned 'le/rn': le/rn may or may not work < 1433478747 634104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wat < 1433478754 210480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was remarkably accurate hth < 1433478767 409759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may and may not work < 1433478768 286903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 3: wisdom/le/rn: No such file or directory \ Learned 'le/rn': le/rn may and may not work < 1433478775 96132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm le/rn; ls -s ../bin/slashlearn le/rn < 1433478777 343959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ../bin/slashlearn: No such file or directory \ ls: cannot access le/rn: No such file or directory < 1433478790 176617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1433478799 108773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i'll admit i'm confused < 1433478817 866234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478818 772259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/le/rn: No such file or directory < 1433478823 533732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1433478830 134694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1433478831 125332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -s < 1433478856 583283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1433478858 227357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s ../bin/slashlearn le/rn < 1433478860 126625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433478864 516617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478866 793883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433478869 845332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1433478871 891265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433478872 111606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433478873 293147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn may or may not work < 1433478873 468802 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn may or may not work < 1433478883 755071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may and may not work < 1433478886 263953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433478888 420318 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433478908 751604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, what was the difference? twh < 1433478934 229955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1433478943 542141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't link it to slashlearn < 1433478945 91991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1433478972 919630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn may or may not work < 1433478974 764094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433478998 577187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le < 1433478999 535441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn may or may not work < 1433479033 980993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn le/rn seems to be working rn but it didn't earlier < 1433479035 863631 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «le» < 1433479051 327685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains, brittle briny bricks < 1433479085 310326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479087 443886 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs/xargs is for piping snowmen. < 1433479096 225283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479097 293787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯/¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1433479097 469412 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |         |            | < 1433479097 645079 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   º¯`\o     º¯`\o        º¯`\o < 1433479123 803874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. good < 1433479125 62445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479126 36041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ /The final frontier. < 1433479136 452309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1433479226 493619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that even accessible with ? < 1433479234 918870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433479235 854546 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433479251 930370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? " " < 1433479252 289837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? ' ' < 1433479253 111323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433479253 419935 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433479258 959059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also put it in so that you can make ``` at front instead of `` if you want it to fix the locale settings < 1433479262 836912 :lemurian!~sh4n3@cpe-76-176-39-124.san.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1433479304 783688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/'``' < 1433479305 579060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :export LANG=C; bash -c "$1" < 1433479308 269433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well space normally is pretty inaccessible, so it all fits. < 1433479396 56439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a cardinal? < 1433479429 883200 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1433479443 990463 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433479510 676416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479511 743668 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazpacho/You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1433479516 174160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433479517 259484 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coonspirator/A coonspirator is caterpillar silk wrapped in collaborators. < 1433479591 408795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeolang < 1433479592 229262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang currently is either J or Io. < 1433479598 584034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :inaccurate hth < 1433479645 515195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? natural transformations < 1433479646 346176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural transformations are just morphisms in the category of functors < 1433479683 695736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/the category of functors/a functor category/' wisdom/natural\ transformation < 1433479685 814626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433479689 118689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what's the point < 1433479696 752227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/natural transformation < 1433479700 7378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433479734 360594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? devious < 1433479735 174643 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb < 1433479746 877735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um what was wrong with the original < 1433479751 238048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i made it < 1433479754 128191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433479778 455322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that there's no one category of functors, there's one for every pair of categories < 1433479789 134749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1433479806 483119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also saying "X is just a morphism in the category Y" is silly because you define the category Y by saying what X is < 1433479813 351593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it didn't seem very wise < 1433479818 538463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i won't object if you put it back < 1433479829 67164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe deleting others' wisdom is rude < 1433479834 761733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i put it back? < 1433479866 837231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was supposed to be silly, although "no one category of functors" is a point < 1433479897 376977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that silliness already exists elsewhere in the wisdom database < 1433479900 391587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the categorical expert < 1433479912 267060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuh uh hth < 1433479957 209833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical / From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical < 1433479964 976693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway put it back twh < 1433480024 42774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry but you're the very model of an modern ct expert hth < 1433480036 640560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a < 1433480045 837405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :curse you, muphry! < 1433480046 555487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is more of a ct expert < 1433480050 916404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and look where that got him hth < 1433480064 812735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't he pretty close to you < 1433480081 758365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1433480090 825187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in the same city or so < 1433480122 74226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :opposite coast hth < 1433480126 847494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433480132 838311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's moving a bit closer < 1433480135 966160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still far < 1433480147 710641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dual concept, then < 1433480170 361829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he used to live in ct < 1433480181 617590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the ct expert thing is about, see < 1433480185 965295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433480223 824135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480224 788354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot/No one was ever called Elliot. < 1433480235 193987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliot < 1433480236 90593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433480253 719428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot invented cats. < 1433480255 873769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot invented cats. < 1433480262 695158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn natural transformation/A natural transformation is a transformation of something containing no chemicals. < 1433480265 210247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «natural transformation» < 1433480318 619348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we got rid of the word "just" < 1433480320 482024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :progress < 1433480368 350181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot inveted cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480372 530066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot inveted cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480373 548233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot invented cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480375 759402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot invented cats, then Taneb stole his invention. < 1433480416 939632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1433480419 86557 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'eliot': Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1433480453 930629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't a category of functors from X to Y when you do Y to the power of X? < 1433480504 207084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the definition of power? < 1433480529 572056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exponent < 1433480543 581329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the definition of the exponent? < 1433480594 435295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess you can have a monoidal category and talk about the adjoint to (a (x)) < 1433480623 707957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1433480649 959007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently "copower" means "tensor". < 1433480667 459434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Copower rrupts. < 1433480669 349562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'copower': Copower rrupts. < 1433480689 755862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480690 192711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480690 806857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480691 48677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :field/There are two kinds of fields. Those where you can divide (except by zero), and those where you can conquer. < 1433480691 428887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480691 604527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce/Lettuce is a vegetable with two dressings, join and meet. < 1433480691 852983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck/Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1433480692 217145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433480692 526932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inverness/Inverness is a city in Scotland. The ring road isn't multiplicative. < 1433480693 473325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morphism/A morphism is just a natural transformation between two functors on 1. < 1433480705 565380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can have addition, multiplication, exponents of categories, and it agrees with the natural numbers (the finite discrete categories being the natural numbers here), such as if you do the category X to the power of 2 it is same as to do X times X < 1433480819 270243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chess < 1433480820 96278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1433480834 327111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mahjong < 1433480835 79024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mahjong? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433480848 595662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn lord/The way of the Lord is not just. < 1433480850 614229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lord» < 1433480878 367494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not just what? < 1433480890 38832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ezekiel 18:29 hth < 1433480915 586038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1433481035 187646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433481036 334027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazpacho/You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1433481038 797781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433481039 935246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial order/A partial order is just a small thin skeletal category. < 1433481045 825436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be talking too much. < 1433481073 893428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? OK < 1433481074 850827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481078 427362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? poker < 1433481079 310673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481082 545172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? AmigaMML < 1433481083 266318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AmigaMML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481128 69809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pipe < 1433481129 12902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481143 14208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn pipe/This is not a pipe. < 1433481145 215774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «pipe» < 1433481154 983291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pipe < 1433481157 80131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not a pipe. < 1433481158 528282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this < 1433481159 483254 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a word < 1433481211 369524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nah < 1433481212 404004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah no ambiguity here < 1433481218 270105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn nah/no ambiguity here < 1433481220 284293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «nah» < 1433481223 400531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Famicom < 1433481225 324965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famicom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481250 343889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1433481252 743247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'famicom': Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1433481437 368210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does an overoptimistic webcomic check < 1433481437 865212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? matrix accounting < 1433481438 717634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix accounting? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481448 127720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1433481449 45166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1433481474 331718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Lisp < 1433481475 179509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481478 158441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Forth < 1433481478 893830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481522 486890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RDF < 1433481523 216765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481525 502420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XML < 1433481526 336466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481536 555345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bible < 1433481537 352711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433481570 314353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1433481572 673428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «forth» < 1433481631 634812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was just thinking of what sort of language would fit in with Go and Forth < 1433481649 190772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i decided there was none so i gave up hth < 1433481654 727937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1433481681 694200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm writing Go code these days < 1433481691 970044 :a2!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433481828 445477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go < 1433481853 807398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we break HackEgo < 1433481868 340601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1433481884 738718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1433481884 914262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1433481933 638811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to fix it < 1433481944 977543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot do that < 1433481969 810792 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't go used in fungot? < 1433481969 986459 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: we signed on the document the events of the financial, project director of the us. < 1433481972 381954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433481984 708822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: not that i know of < 1433481987 199288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1433481987 375058 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1433481997 453637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zzo38 didn't say that you can, only that you have to hth < 1433482018 396450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is correct. < 1433482024 44957 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's fun that is used in fungot. < 1433482024 260091 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it will you have the power: california department of water and power. < 1433482032 597614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433482034 997190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah. well i commend zzo38 on knowing the difference hth < 1433482092 960308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a book that says: "People are trustworthy if they try to do what they say they will do. People are creditworthy if they can do what they say they will do." < 1433482107 516283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good definitions imo < 1433482142 81885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433482153 426791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433482169 957789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you still have to fix HackEgo < 1433482179 490126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1433482286 565973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1433482294 915397 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to fungot, you have the power. < 1433482295 91025 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: has a wonderful and you guys i recommend the best, if you see on the map of the 10 trading days of the equity and bond markets don't offer refuge. < 1433482297 204270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433482326 362434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433482334 57165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet/random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet Uhm... was the binary roujobroken? < 1433482338 924694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i don't trust that fungot statement, i've hear california has a drought < 1433482339 100416 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i wan to make. for the enron price target the key the off peak. 25301 < 1433482343 509285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heard < 1433482390 143991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks for fixing it tdh < 1433482390 729369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet < 1433482402 601762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1433482403 302148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1433482464 671205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: fungot isn't on a very trustworthy style at the moment hth < 1433482464 884017 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to the time of the help of the: ( iii) the number of the my cdnow. < 1433482471 553550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1433482471 729258 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron* europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1433482477 704978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433482478 481541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to add all of the other stuff too? < 1433482481 434534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has an enron style? < 1433482481 610182 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: first and foremost you < 1433482536 645469 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1433482536 821247 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1433482571 178313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: drink me! < 1433482571 372242 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: five winsome girls, from twenty to sixteen: each young man that calls, i say! < 1433482576 824904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to confuse enron with http://www.eltron.co.il/ < 1433482622 150865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when people talked about enron i thought they were talking about a company that made parking gates and other sorts of automatic doors < 1433482637 878570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's some hideously bad keming tdnh < 1433482658 856113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was back when people were talking about enron < 1433482678 71440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i imagine my english wasn't too good < 1433482685 787191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was young and foolish < 1433482687 714425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does lt an n sound the same in hebrew tdnh < 1433482690 418613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1433482696 490067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm old :'( < 1433482703 464036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1433482796 425801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to add a wisdom file for "mahjong"? < 1433482827 305445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not. Are you? < 1433482882 809035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to write < 1433482894 968951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, I didn't write. < 1433482986 254120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1433482988 103354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rtf': RTF stands for Rich's Text Format, invented by Rich Burlew. In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. < 1433482997 130630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: these kinds of gates: http://www.eltron.co.il/img/0389/340.jpg < 1433483006 451589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you said RDF, never mind. < 1433483032 851644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's OK; now you have the one of RTF too. < 1433483040 323549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! < 1433483041 111208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/: Permission denied < 1433483049 88672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1433483067 266543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rich burlew < 1433483068 129335 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rich burlew? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433483080 8147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FAQ < 1433483080 823163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAQ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433483195 726516 :password2!~password@197.77.27.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1433483629 849143 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a double take at this email title: "Your help is desperately needed for Nigerian refugees" < 1433483643 383137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It describe on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Graph what a RDF graph is, therefore you can make up something funny of it and make up a funny guess what the letters "RDF" is stand for, such as recursive acronym or whatever else it is. < 1433483645 378400 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was an email newsletter from the UNHCR) < 1433483776 349755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: might wonder how many spam filters it got caught in < 1433483811 723248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you define "planar graph" without geometry? < 1433483822 671790 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, use kuratowski's theorem. < 1433484775 698980 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433485213 848011 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1433485337 657723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1433485458 106054 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433485605 32410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cats < 1433485605 312653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1433486117 258090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why it should be illegal? < 1433486334 141000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think cats should be illegal. < 1433486341 495700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are practical. < 1433486947 738510 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1433487595 473339 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net NICK :IdentificationDi < 1433487614 600626 :IdentificationDi!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1433487753 788362 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:d09c:884b:729c:90c8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433487787 403118 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:d09c:884b:729c:90c8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1433487787 592589 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433488922 51725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord < 1433488922 227460 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: " only but frogs," said he, " for i never was so happy before," though why these two children who had never been so nearly choked in all her life. < 1433489015 839143 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm guessing Rwandan Defence Forces < 1433489512 982283 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why exactly did C89 disallow mixed declarations? < 1433492925 232944 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433493009 583383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixed?? < 1433493083 237879 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess that it's so that stupid compilers can generate the function prologue and lay out the stack before generating any function code < 1433493150 556878 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that. Yeah, same guess here. < 1433493235 180482 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocks can declare variables though, so I'm not sure it's limited enough to actually help such a compiler < 1433493265 814355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a compiler could move declarations to the top anyway < 1433493302 355782 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you'd scan the function body for declarations < 1433493314 563878 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean it would parse the whole function first? do you have enough RAM to do that? < 1433493337 625745 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1433493346 687440 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have in fact just parsed the whole file into an AST :) < 1433493353 187148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: does the term "single pass compiler" mean anything? remember that computers at the time had preciously little memory. < 1433493364 86464 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I know single pass compilers. < 1433493396 902168 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll produce rather inefficient code thoguh < 1433493439 390930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433493458 949064 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why real programmers wrote their code in assembly language < 1433493507 661727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still do use assembly language if writing the program for Famicom < 1433493516 669538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? famicom < 1433493517 343041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1433493523 901939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiled languages were (and to a great extent still are) a trade-off between time and space consumption of the executed code on the one hand, and managability and maintainability of the source code on the other. < 1433493552 956246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wouldn't you use e.g. Japanese for writing the programme for Famicom? < 1433493581 81123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The message on HackEgo is just a joke; Famicom is a computer machine < 1433493607 118110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I should add portability to that list < 1433493608 355208 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written an ugly one pass compiler once < 1433493626 862781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other purpose of compiled languages such as C and so on is to make it (at least partially) portable to compile on other computer too < 1433493632 671359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: was it for brainfuck? < 1433493648 666562 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1433493664 791974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's one reason I use C; it can then compile for other computer too) < 1433493665 890603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAMICOM IST DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE? < 1433493715 175120 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/SZEZcEei < 1433493716 297172 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real german word is COMPUTER < 1433493739 318277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the real English word too. < 1433493744 536818 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at all those push pop instructions it generated :D < 1433493748 528249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the english word is computer, not COMPUTER < 1433493792 468461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is case-insensitive. < 1433493845 402088 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even generate move instructions :) push r0, pop r1 was generated if a value was needed in another register :D < 1433493911 15016 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess you could call it a Rechenmaschine < 1433493928 102091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a * b was compiled as pop r1, pop r0, mul r0, r0, r1; push r0; < 1433493933 317322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen the CPU called a "Rechenwerk". < 1433493942 231255 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: looks legit < 1433493984 966675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MagicKit assembler uses two passes; I made an extension which allows an optional third pass (although the third pass isn't reading the input file, but is rather executing code in an area that has been set aside for this purpose) < 1433493992 363547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose this happens when you have a stack machine as intermediate representation and don't bother to write a register allocator, for example because that's kind of hard.) < 1433494028 865317 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: exactly :). < 1433494044 617356 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you can very easily compile it in a single pass < 1433494062 118398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: You could do optimizations when writing them out though? (Such as keeping track of pattern to match) < 1433494084 273380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These still aren't best kind of optimizations, but at least it would be something.) < 1433494085 38325 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :) < 1433494093 769881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some very easy optimizations that could be done < 1433494102 302472 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like replacing push r0; pop r0; with nothing < 1433494110 125823 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and push r0; pop r1; with mov r1, r0 < 1433494121 598055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :German seems like it would be so much easier to learn than Finnish. < 1433494166 589906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/qXSBIAiW <- but looking at the source code I don't want to have anything to do with that compiler anymore :D < 1433494249 688144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just directly emit code when ever a bison rule is matched :) < 1433494302 107499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| KEYWORD_IPROCEDURE IDENT { printf(".label _%s; iproc\n", $2); } KEYWORD_IS statements KEYWORD_END {" < 1433494305 604613 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that :D < 1433494422 144029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be able to use a second parser which does optimization < 1433494458 453777 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433494467 208040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether zzo38 has anything to do with attribute grammars < 1433494524 364995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/ZbkyphzQ <- that's the language it compiles < 1433494557 234692 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously all locals need to be declared before the function body :) < 1433494665 581349 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with syntax highlight the language doesn't even look too bad < 1433494719 864 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fmnssun.ibone.ch/rhailargue/string.rl.html < 1433494826 455467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously there are only two data types: register and byte.) < 1433494854 689007 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(althought technically everything is untyped and just assumed to fit into a register) < 1433494885 766405 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but for read/write accesses you can specify @BYTE or @REG prefixes) < 1433494958 954781 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the project is dead ;) < 1433495009 126499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody had interest in the project. < 1433495129 385386 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433495223 559267 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what happens when yo do theses (is that the plural of thesis) without an industry partner but with the university as your partner < 1433495244 207196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no real interest behind projects without partners from the outside world :D < 1433495280 794375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... BFQ? < 1433495292 203081 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF commands are replaced with digits 0-9 < 1433495304 890003 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Quine he shows doesn't even contain any digits but just brainfuck instructions? < 1433495423 299930 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run as a brainfuck program it seems to output only non printable characters < 1433495699 377090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm reading something wrong :( < 1433496113 56261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the numbers refer to raw byte values. < 1433496144 361805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the output of the program starts "03 03 01 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 01 ..." and that matches the start of the quine code. < 1433496183 229218 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd fit. < 1433496467 672640 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uploaded a file x-chromosomes that isn't used anywhere o_O < 1433496501 204525 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433496686 294726 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn pollen. < 1433496710 784051 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pollen count is so high right now it affects people without pollen allergies as well. < 1433498226 347591 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1433498329 409742 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433498329 641343 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433500413 767542 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433501287 64860 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433501423 167914 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... summer sucks as a heliophobic. < 1433501471 448276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you're not above the arctic circle. (I guess?) < 1433501508 934666 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhelloman_. one form of therapy is exposing you to multiple suns at the same time to help you with you phobia hth < 1433501511 227341 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433501685 339184 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess... < 1433501691 887791 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@mobile-access-bceeea-189.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433502711 675808 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1433502855 743173 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :JPA Strings default to VARCHAR(255) < 1433502867 911270 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know. < 1433502893 942659 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: When using JPA always check the schema it generates, because otherwise you will have Bugs you didn't think of < 1433502908 922709 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when suddenly your app crashes when storing Text longer than 255 characters) < 1433503768 863494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LOREMIPSUMDOLORSITAMETCONSECTETURADIPISCINGELIT CHICKEN < 1433504045 389173 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:400d:1d03:1f2b:1617 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433504597 782523 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-odyuzilcgameerzb QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1433504740 377968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433504980 784427 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@mobile-access-bceeea-189.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433505023 675943 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433505144 71872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433505419 973074 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1433505425 680907 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :By how much can you slow down a video without a viewer noticing? < 1433505453 47247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. to allow buffering) < 1433505621 666217 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1433505669 157227 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of stopping hard you slow down the video ever so slightly as to "gather time" for the buffer to refill < 1433505795 65698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably isn't a general answer to this. For example, consider a music video on one hand and a slow pan over a city on the other. < 1433506464 460848 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could annotate sequences that can be slown down. < 1433506496 706880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could annotate where it is possible to introduce some mini-breaks < 1433506508 293545 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when a movie shows a blank screen for a scene switch < 1433506517 987255 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that blank screen can easily be extended for a few milliseconds I guess. < 1433506648 73946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't think it's worth to slow down the video to catch up with buffering < 1433506665 558068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: if the download is too slow, then that won't help much in the long term < 1433506670 156536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll eventually have to halt < 1433506678 82945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this can be possible but I don't think it's practical < 1433506685 326657 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are cases where you pre-buffer for about a minute < 1433506687 576356 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then press play < 1433506695 679199 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mid-movie you need to stop and pre-buffer for another minute < 1433506708 691928 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamically slowing the video down a bit could prevent that from happening < 1433506715 12505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't think so < 1433506747 930994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those kinds of things are because the download stops or the speed slows down very much, because some point of the network (possibly an endpoint) gets slow < 1433506804 532754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1433506819 837127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if buffering speed is just about playing speed and then suddenly starts to slow down < 1433506829 868857 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to halt eventually if you keep playing at the same speed < 1433506837 472680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's common < 1433506847 955158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe < 1433506890 389962 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can always just increase download speed :D < 1433506905 266765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounded like something at least interesting to experiment with. < 1433506935 648927 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why solve the traffic problem if you can just build wider roads < 1433506939 703753 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1433506974 813299 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that is a different topic. < 1433506980 609872 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Busses are the future) < 1433506999 797606 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. except for transmitting diseases busses are probably not that *cool* < 1433507015 152689 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're better of travelling in your own car when it comes to that. < 1433507066 547017 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not travelling at all < 1433507169 450293 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433507276 415519 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Phone < 1433507539 91477 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433507618 575337 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1433507839 282678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :png 25 (12.89%) 3097 (28.44%) 123 < 1433507858 719317 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have a PNG coder in your project and most lines of code are in PNG. < 1433507875 138642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 2789 C lines. < 1433507892 269564 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stat tool should do some basic binary file detection < 1433507935 576135 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. at least there are 1.4k lines of assembly code < 1433508116 810725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1433508425 961019 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1433508432 739355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes more sense in terms of priorities < 1433508450 765591 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix > postfix > infix < 1433508461 463910 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or infix > prefix > postfix? < 1433508486 262906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1433508490 262242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a!++b! < 1433508506 238144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where Prefix+ is increment, postfix ! is faculty and infix + is addition < 1433508526 443528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fac(a+1) + fac(b+1)) < 1433508626 210652 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ! infix would actually be array access < 1433508629 54947 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1433508667 905678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I parse that :) < 1433508708 525097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ! prefix is not < 1433508745 468434 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1433508777 9643 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!a!!b could be almost anything. (!a)!(!b) if prefix > infix < 1433508946 742968 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if postfix > infix as well < 1433508957 462754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :((!a)!)!b < 1433508986 363604 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix > infix > postfix? < 1433509309 675942 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm yeah < 1433509314 654091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Parsec wouldn't like any of those :( < 1433509369 914962 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless < 1433509565 157566 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1433509571 635191 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stops for !a! at !a < 1433509613 681936 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :=^.^= < 1433509669 56853 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I tell parsec to parse that as (!a)!? < 1433509832 200253 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433509833 65499 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1433510012 319881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it loops forever on just "a" < 1433510083 461608 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511041 721701 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. I have my system now :D < 1433511258 321080 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511269 637589 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511353 489153 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1433511437 831714 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511700 350622 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1433511816 623422 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :.!,~a!2! would be the faculty of the bitwise negated second digit of the length of a < 1433511977 824041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :faculty? what. < 1433512084 496219 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> runParserWithString parseExpression ".!,~a!b!" < 1433512084 708267 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :((!((~a)!b))!) < 1433512148 115170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorial, I think. < 1433512151 812941 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1433512152 966084 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right :) < 1433512155 496557 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :False friends. < 1433512185 350210 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1433512553 921108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German it's Fakultät < 1433512568 781960 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means Factorial and/or Faculty :) < 1433512714 654007 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,1,3,12,20 < 1433512715 820324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1433512740 913565 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,3,12,20,120,840 < 1433512741 909897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1433512749 181616 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433512763 307040 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1,3,12,20,120,840,6720,60480,151200 < 1433512899 743923 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oes 20,120,840,6720 < 1433512900 375225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : n!/6.[1,4,20,120,840,6720,60480,604800,6652800,79833600,1037836800,145297152... < 1433513099 346413 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't governments just use a tax system like < 1433513108 700919 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They state how much money they need for a given period < 1433513116 779268 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 1000 Dogecoins. < 1433513168 470403 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :all citizens together earn 6000 dogecoins a year < 1433513208 282419 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who earns 60 dogecoins a year therefore pays 0.01% of what the government wants < 1433513231 641213 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 10 dogecoins < 1433513275 816953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly because taking 10 dogecoins out of the income of someone earning 60 dogecoins is felt to have a different proportional effect than taking 1000 from soneone earning 6000. < 1433513283 631756 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory you could have to pay more than what you earnt < 1433513330 156474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I think your 0.01% was off by two orders of magnitude.) < 1433513333 783741 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1433513336 761894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 60/6000 < 1433513338 793868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0e-2 < 1433513344 435528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (60/6000)*1000 < 1433513346 258653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.0 < 1433513350 817477 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1433513360 533345 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1433513362 809119 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433513366 660797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm bad at math < 1433513368 667826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :60/6000 is a fraction of 0.01. 0.01% is a fraction of 0.0001 < 1433513395 875893 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I'm only good in math subjects that don't involve too much numbers. < 1433513436 171877 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1433513441 279088 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume there's one really rich person < 1433513446 599462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_tax < 1433513447 723773 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that earns 5000 dogecoins < 1433513457 831650 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5000/6000)*1000 < 1433513459 654219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 833.3333333333334 < 1433513488 965962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 1000/6000 (as in, 1/6th) out of everyone's income. < 1433513542 921877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think people generally argue that taking 1/6'th out of the income of someone at the poverty line is different from taking 1/6'th out of someone earning lots of money, even though it's the same fraction. < 1433513562 527222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm sure you can find people saying that progressive taxation is bad too. < 1433513574 174307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how progressive < 1433513590 159107 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do stupid things like uhm < 1433513597 47864 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :People earning less than 50000 pay 5% < 1433513604 630749 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people earning less than 70000 pay 8% < 1433513607 690302 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and above that 12% < 1433513637 506066 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although 5% isn't realistic of course :) < 1433513645 654367 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's way too little < 1433513666 687461 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 49000 * 0.08 < 1433513669 317815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3920.0 < 1433513671 349027 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 49000 * 0.05 < 1433513673 513230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2450.0 < 1433513677 645247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 51000 * 0.05 < 1433513679 494336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2550.0 < 1433513680 885281 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 51000 * 0.08 < 1433513682 624860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4080.0 < 1433513695 196590 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4080 - 2450 < 1433513696 720315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1630 < 1433513774 889377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it's generally "X % for income from 0 to A; Y % for income from A to B; .." and so on. Although I've heard of the "you lose money by earning too much" situations. < 1433513808 89621 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with 1/6 flat tax < 1433513814 216257 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5000/6 < 1433513816 308539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 833.3333333333334 < 1433513818 149175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1433513818 714047 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1433513831 748011 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (10/6000)*1000 < 1433513833 125091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.6666666666666667 < 1433513839 767046 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (30/6000)*1000 < 1433513841 376513 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.0 < 1433513848 816485 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap this really is 1/6 out of everybody < 1433513867 630327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you can take the /6000 out of the parens and put it under the 1000. < 1433513887 51637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x/6000)*1000 = x*(1000/6000). < 1433513913 291178 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1433513917 210500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but instead of making "hard borders" you could have something more gradual perhaps? < 1433513920 681912 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as uhm < 1433513936 874047 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :income / 10k < 1433513946 702453 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning 40000 pay 4%, 70000 pay 7% < 1433513971 865405 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course, you'd have to consult how many people earn how much first < 1433513985 654402 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because at the end of the day if the tax system can't cover the governments spending it's a bad tax system anyway < 1433513992 400871 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a bad government < 1433513993 404965 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both < 1433514120 986207 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there countries with value-added-taxes only? < 1433514123 541023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be interesting. < 1433514169 856568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any places that have differentiable function instead of tax brackets. I've only been exposed to the UK and Finnish systems, both of which have brackets. (Although the Finnish system never really talks about the brackets -- they're used to compute the overall marginal rate, but other than that it's just the single percentage you usually see.) < 1433514210 93304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both also have a non-empty bottom bracket with a 0% tax rate (aka tax-free income allowance). < 1433514294 629427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're even vaguely the same magnitude. (£10600 vs. 16500€ ~> £12000) < 1433514364 887311 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :income tax here is around 5% < 1433514382 883689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds pretty low, compared. < 1433514388 891815 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not the only tax < 1433514394 484802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but still. < 1433514409 534975 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay taxes to the government < 1433514417 741246 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(federal government) < 1433514419 349060 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to the local < 1433514434 421587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the local tax is somewhat around 120% of the income tax < 1433514459 940872 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have 5000 fed tax, you pay 6000 local tax, meaning all in all the gov gets 11000 < 1433514482 729282 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so roughly 1/8 of your salary goes to taxes < 1433514511 658002 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 1/8 of the salary you get after taxes by your employer < 1433514519 711346 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which takes away another 1/8 :) < 1433514527 171925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One difference between the UK and Finnish systems seems to be that while in Finland the state and muncipal taxes are all part of the same tax reporting and deduct-directly-from-salary system, here only the UK-wide HMRC tax seems to go from the salary, and there's a separate "Council Tax" you pay monthly as a separate thing, based on where you live and what sort of apartment you have. < 1433514538 897483 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning if you earn 6000 a month 4500 will be at your dispense < 1433514541 687000 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest is taxes < 1433514621 729142 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the yearly "Personalsteuer" but that's a fixed amount < 1433514627 115089 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not very much < 1433514635 537355 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 CHF < 1433514639 379262 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where I live) < 1433514688 960576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is the Council Tax? < 1433514708 575095 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average for a usual not-very-rich but not-very-poor person? < 1433514716 674945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not income-based at all. < 1433514734 536479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on which "council tax band" your apartment is in. < 1433514743 893999 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's the most common council tax band? < 1433514760 978422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, the council tax band assignments are based on some decades-old valuation that is completely disconnected from reality. < 1433514774 285946 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how much is that most common tax band? < 1433514776 807811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's generally "more expensive place -> higher council tax", so I guess it's correlated with income. < 1433514807 688065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea, but not terribly much. Less than £100/month. < 1433514850 899165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's some transfer of money from the state to the local authorities, or how it works. I'm new here. < 1433514931 868635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard, the council tax rates vary quite wildly on which council you're in. < 1433514959 90865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the average in London in 2008 was £1268 a year, so a bit over £100. < 1433514981 897340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ranging from £680 to £1490 for "band D". < 1433515096 852959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the other bands are fixed ratios (from 2/3 to 2) of band D. < 1433515202 114765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1433515543 77414 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :31 degrees < 1433515545 997118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's getting hot < 1433515586 676290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1433515587 320036 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 051420Z 06006KT 010V120 9999 FEW065TCU SCT070 32/15 Q1019 NOSIG < 1433515649 995881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LZSH < 1433515651 490765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1433515668 328576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LSZH < 1433515669 234829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSZH 051420Z VRB02KT CAVOK 31/16 Q1020 NOSIG < 1433516350 262531 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tqadfyhpbxqkxmao JOIN :#esoteric < 1433517111 170804 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433517400 389661 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433517509 442264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many computer program doing audio-related stuff define tau instead of pi? < 1433518253 954695 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433519710 778859 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1433519814 416402 :password2!~password@197.77.3.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433519831 526786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like defining tau by circles though; I prefer: e^(i tau)=1 < 1433520337 545540 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :ayylmao < 1433520369 675689 :ayylmao!~kline@unaffiliated/kline NICK :kline < 1433520433 296259 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1433520601 785163 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433521037 610865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, the entire significance of that formula is that complex exponentiation is rotation < 1433521049 868640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still defining it by circles < 1433521147 158954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define e^x by a infinite series, and if you put complex numbers in, that is what it makes. One significance of such series is you can calculate the derivative to also be e^x. < 1433521261 26109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it doesn't seem circles < 1433521290 974005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's true but then you're just saying stuff about arbitrary infinite series < 1433521325 289530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the link to exponentiation and trigonometry for the identity to actually be meaningful < 1433521402 588662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't completely arbitrary; it has d(e^x)=e^x dx < 1433521464 820548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You still haven't said what d is. :-( < 1433521502 861557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a derivative operator < 1433521537 212565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is dx? < 1433521544 679969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, all this time i'd been thinking it was the cellular boundary < 1433521598 192136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dx is the derivative operator which is already applied < 1433521849 780705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Prehistory of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43147&oldid=37072 5* 03Paul2520 5* (-9) 10/* References */ replaced History of QED link < 1433521918 922157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the type of d? < 1433521956 84987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "d" by itself is not something that is in use by itself (although Euler's differential operator can be used by itself if you pay attention properly!) < 1433521997 160092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is the type of d. Maybe I can figure out but I haven't done yet < 1433522336 780090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, did we not have this discussion like 2 weeks ago < 1433522350 438892 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a convenient notation, you know that full well < 1433522359 703856 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgvrmxapoomlnndu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433522404 704975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a well-defined differential operator and it's usually written D, but it's not the same as liebniz notation < 1433522465 891484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use "d" by itself but it is possible to use "D" by itself, is what I said < 1433522524 274198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also obviously doesn't have a type because most mathematics doesn't use type theory < 1433522589 555218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but I don't remember getting a clear answer. < 1433522605 770055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I remember it zzo38 was saying that it was more than convenient notation. < 1433522651 204333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the notation d^2y/dx^2 for the second derivative is wrong. < 1433522674 641418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I convinced myself that it made sense once. < 1433522728 612401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you actually write d(dy/dx)/dx and then to try to calculate it properly, you will see what it actually adds up to. < 1433522731 875972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't necessary mean "type" in a completely formal way. < 1433522739 408474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that you write (d/dx) for the differential operator < 1433522755 172663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what sorts of things does it turn into what sorts of things?" < 1433522766 783730 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the second derivative is (d/dx)(d/dx) = d^2/dx^2 < 1433522793 830573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it's just convenient notation, why does it seem to work so well? < 1433522840 463254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, although the (d/dx) is really Euler's "D" operator; it is just written as d/dx for convenience because Dy=dy/dx (if derivatives are taken with respect to x) for example. < 1433522871 612757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it turns expressions into infinitesimals < 1433522913 447937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:19 dylukes : let's assume we have `y = g(x)', and want to compute `d f(x,y) / d x' < 1433522916 466948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20 dylukes : interpreting this as a partial derivative, it really means `let y = g(x) in d f(x,y) / d x' < 1433522919 444037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20 dylukes : while interpreting this as a total derivative, it really means `d (let y = g(x) in f(x,y)) / d x' < 1433522951 237094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't know any sort of infinitesimals where that really works. < 1433522968 522132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't look like infinitesimals to me, even though they are often called that. < 1433523070 439565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the infinitesimals for which it works are the completely nonformal handwavy ones < 1433523086 735772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it normally just gets called a notation < 1433523096 474799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In "f(x) + df(g) / dx", the x in f(x) and the x in g(x) are different xs < 1433523116 265006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :df(x)/dx is both a binder and a consumer of x < 1433523371 152431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is because the x here is a variable < 1433523418 834990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43148&oldid=40602 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+76025) 10 < 1433523439 670327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean that \int dy/dx dx = \int dy? < 1433523442 60370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a constant then it is dividing by zero, and of course you cannot divide by zero. < 1433523540 247804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43149&oldid=41175 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+11455) 10 < 1433523642 437556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Paul252014]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43150&oldid=43143 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+23683) 10 < 1433523663 153891 :Lyka|Phone!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433523726 936220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Jabutosama14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43151&oldid=43123 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+46212) 10 < 1433523756 269972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Jabutosama14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43152&oldid=43151 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+1) 10 < 1433523858 24520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ACIDIC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43153&oldid=22183 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+26285) 10 < 1433523936 302257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Prehistory of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43154&oldid=43147 5* 032.98.83.249 5* (+35219) 10 < 1433524082 915643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now... < 1433524109 41364 :password2!~password@197.77.3.244 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433524233 304421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43155&oldid=43148 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-76025) 10Undo revision 43148 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524260 56912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43156&oldid=43149 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-11455) 10Undo revision 43149 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524295 195249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Paul252014]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43157&oldid=43150 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-23683) 10Undo revision 43150 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524400 731457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If C represents a constant, then: \int(2xdx) = \int(d(x^2)+0) = \int(d(x^2)+dC) = \int(d(x^2+C)) = x^2+C < 1433524419 780377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Jabutosama14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43158&oldid=43152 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-46213) 10Undo changes by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] < 1433524444 673922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ACIDIC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43159&oldid=43153 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-26285) 10Undo revision 43153 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524479 847180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Prehistory of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43160&oldid=43154 5* 03213.162.68.175 5* (-35219) 10Undo revision 43154 by [[Special:Contributions/2.98.83.249|2.98.83.249]] ([[User talk:2.98.83.249|talk]]) < 1433524516 255501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1433524597 205772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes he hasn't just made oerjan's and elliott's job harder... < 1433524798 817696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: shouldn't the constant be introduced when evaluating \int(dt), say \int(dt) = t + C ? < 1433524815 340193 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1433524848 775976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I suppose that is the other way too. < 1433525297 545789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, isn't dt=d(t+C) anyways? < 1433525335 892191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that the point... < 1433525376 725286 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, because dt=d(t+C), the "inverse" \int should return a result modulo addition of a constant, and that's usually denoted by the + C part. < 1433525436 985336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is same thing < 1433526603 812337 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-sydnbgwphgvswnoe JOIN :#esoteric < 1433526822 702762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What way can you get a pseudo-random number from a floating-point number as input? < 1433526871 59525 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1433526872 464682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...discard the number... < 1433526958 852047 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xkcd.com/221/ < 1433526990 33717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I mean such that f(x)=noise and is always the same noise, and if you do f(-x) then you get the reversed noise < 1433527125 842227 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, but you almost never define what you need precisely enough to give sensible answers. < 1433527942 783905 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1433528100 817879 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433528843 491583 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something done properly you have to compile the program yourseld < 1433528856 720487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some good characterizations of the reals? < 1433528927 988620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the one by spivak in 'Calculus' was pretty convincing < 1433528953 953672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want characterizations other than "complete ordered field" or even anything related to numbers. < 1433528966 120451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. http://mathoverflow.net/q/92206 < 1433528976 208426 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. well poop, I dunno < 1433529202 581203 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one with the closed points is pretty cool I have to say. < 1433529541 149343 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're then defining the reals as (0,1] x Z? < 1433529703 81977 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1433529872 522670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn the reals/The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. They are universally useful in homotopy. < 1433529874 471703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «the reals» < 1433530138 984725 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :How useful. < 1433530167 104965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you moving to mountain view twh < 1433530201 422029 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If I get the job (which seems really likely at this point), yes. < 1433530353 849130 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tqadfyhpbxqkxmao QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433530355 598746 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bhhshfoenjlveylz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433530355 883975 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fjjctxsfqumcahwq QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433530615 597278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the reals < 1433530616 288298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reals are a complete ordered Brazilian currency invented by Taneb in 1994. They are universally useful in homotopy. < 1433530627 439431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please improve twh < 1433530656 79068 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure about "universally" < 1433530719 209173 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1433530965 648507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What did you think of your interview? < 1433530988 608963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently during my interviews they did a bunch of things they weren't supposed to do. < 1433531005 986964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite part of it was that they let me choose what one of the interviews would be about. < 1433531028 432357 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interviews were just a bunch of fun challenges; I had a pretty good time. < 1433531028 771005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell whether that's standard. < 1433531223 124443 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The recruiter gave me a choice of two options for one of them. < 1433531265 785361 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1433531286 675667 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My impression is that the interviews went spectacularly. < 1433531303 885680 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the recruiter afterwards told me that all the interviewers said the same, so there's that. < 1433531313 542225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgtm < 1433531355 452832 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, no guarantees but it really does sound likely that I've got it. < 1433531387 529270 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1433531393 704676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, do you remember your interviewers' names? < 1433531400 672976 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, I do not. < 1433531403 363848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably shouldn't say that in here anyway. < 1433531413 785487 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if I did I distinctly remember only hearing first names anyways. < 1433531430 643290 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's *incredibly* unlikely that first names are unique in the Googleplex. :P < 1433531457 758381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was! < 1433531493 311336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it's less unlikely that they're unique in the SRE interviewer pool. < 1433531504 545380 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1433531516 155035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To which? < 1433531527 804412 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less unlikely they're unique. < 1433531559 479904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean that there are many fewer people in a position to interview you than Google employees overall. < 1433531570 105550 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh. < 1433531580 854917 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that many SREs overall? < 1433531666 476783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. reals are cutting edge in the field of rational numbers < 1433531717 479508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mahjong < 1433531718 123672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mahjong? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433531724 295217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? accounting < 1433531725 1466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ = 0 < 1433531808 153064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? codensity < 1433531808 744538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codensity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433531816 444493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonad < 1433531817 129608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category. < 1433531906 182861 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433532222 259160 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, mroman could easily be confused with the dual of a cormoran. < 1433532396 810685 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433532666 814557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the traitor baru comroman < 1433532986 306093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun. with data Color = R | B and data Tree a = E | T Color (Tree a) a (Tree a), T R E E E is an actual (technically, I'd prefer the root to be black) valid red-black tree < 1433533083 124497 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1433533518 382276 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okasaki has an exercise to implement a linear time fromOrdList for red-black trees, which turned out to be more interesting than expected) < 1433533750 95695 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. < 1433533751 747341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'codensity': codensity is just mass per volume with all the arrows reversed. < 1433535124 599710 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1433535571 435466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FlogScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43161&oldid=42039 5* 0363.232.95.4 5* (+0) 10/* Operators and builtin functions (very incomplete list) */ 7 5 * should equal 35 < 1433535635 513865 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/p5BSuZDj < 1433536194 95989 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1433536266 788925 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone see me? < 1433536397 490573 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1433536564 782274 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :See whom? < 1433536647 92185 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433536674 790826 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arofklvhwevijcmb JOIN :#esoteric < 1433537319 667902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537320 527671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537320 712460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mockingbird/mockingbird is watching you.. closely! Is it mocking you? Probably. < 1433537321 583443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila/In a cruel twist of fate, vanila has come to #esoteric in search of wisdom. < 1433537323 59608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537323 631285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1433537324 23079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details for futher details./See `? for further details for futher details. < 1433537324 559183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot/EgoBot is my arch-nemesis. < 1433537360 498233 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vsezlfghtwmgkcxb JOIN :#esoteric < 1433537432 606984 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433538141 517566 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ouvbexwvwnowbvfz JOIN :#esoteric < 1433538370 987213 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1433538635 920809 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1433538636 537060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433538646 947431 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1433538647 698875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1433538655 748840 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1433538656 512616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1433538671 585664 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1433538672 427973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. < 1433538679 701784 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? anywhere < 1433538680 301344 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywhere? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1433539290 778378 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1433539964 756306 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gtczffwdnitvizxs JOIN :#esoteric < 1433540183 897842 :Lyka|Away!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka < 1433541097 346304 :Lyka!~scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat NICK :Lyka|Away < 1433541296 791045 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I have been home for one day and 8 hours and I have finished my book :) < 1433541298 885492 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:( < 1433541309 196842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you want more books < 1433541335 635349 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, unfortunately my book was volume 1 of the 2 volume edition of A Dance With Dragons, so I would like that book < 1433541368 368120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1433541373 971383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you read other books instead < 1433541377 398355 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am borrowing them from one of my housemates in York < 1433541388 642176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But York is like 90 miles away < 1433541437 601585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you coming here to have poutine? < 1433541480 799525 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can make poutine in York relatively easily < 1433541487 166949 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is in poutine sauce? < 1433541533 555357 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1433541534 19522 :Wright__!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1433541592 53217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to add a wisdom file for "anywhere" too < 1433541629 524604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that sauce can vary quite a bit < 1433541637 557307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all depends on what you want to poutine it < 1433541653 690362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Who does? < 1433541708 30795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who < 1433541727 979696 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how does poutine differ from cheesy chips with gravey < 1433541730 758556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gravy < 1433541814 342713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one it isn't made with chips < 1433541821 767714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[heh heh heh] < 1433541875 116010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in hebrew they're called chips, actually < 1433541980 642355 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think cheesy crisps would quite work < 1433542019 964162 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's dangerously close to nachos < 1433542053 579202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke's poutinerie has nacho poutines < 1433542081 232597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with salsa, sour cream, jalapeño peppers, and guacamole < 1433542092 133911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it seems dishonest < 1433543368 903487 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1433544404 966950 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arofklvhwevijcmb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433544583 706262 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1433544651 402107 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Client Quit < 1433544722 75834 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1433544779 281407 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1433545205 156801 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1433545400 423633 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutines also often have vin aigre < 1433545478 457132 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I grew up calling them chips. The truck that sells them is called a chip truck < 1433545507 776728 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in England they call it a chip lorry? < 1433545632 947833 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are web cookies called web biscuits in England? < 1433546508 277346 :toxolotl1!~beard@2a02:2028:51b:6f01:400d:1d03:1f2b:1617 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1433546529 915925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any terminal emulators you can put a DLE code (or some other code) before any byte to cause it to always emit it as a character (in the PC character set, for example)? < 1433546708 422881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few VT100 graphics which aren't also in the PC set, although many terminal emulators do not seem to support these VT100 graphics anyways < 1433546748 502967 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know of any terminal that's capable of doing that, but on the linux console I think you can define any mapping from characters of the terminal to characters in the VGA charset, and you can even use that mapping as the secondary mapping (which is by default the vt100 graphics) < 1433546783 431808 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, I think some line printers have such a code < 1433546903 895011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I think that's a two-level translation < 1433546953 447779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did do that; while it does allow accessing all of the characters it is a bit messy to do, because something internally causes it to get mixed up and therefore you need to activate the G1 set and then emit the high characters and the internal encoder will somehow then sometimes select the ones that were previously inaccessible < 1433547015 957800 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, for the linux console, you can try writing directly to /dev/vcsa* < 1433547106 387372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in my font, all the glyphs in the low control characters also appear somewhere on non-ascii unicode value, so you can use those < 1433547141 280617 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that might be possible on the linux console in unicode mode too < 1433547172 707350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :accessing the characters as mapped from high unicode values after setting the terminal to utf8 < 1433547243 958590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better way would be to just use a prefix code to access PC characters; otherwise you get ASCII and VT100 characters only < 1433547273 48182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it would be easier < 1433547608 495689 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf fortress appears to simply output unicode < 1433547609 905370 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gtczffwdnitvizxs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1433548100 585344 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1433548207 918924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swiss Ephemeris testing program uses Unicode for the degree sign (it also has no option to use the current date); I made a shell script to use sed to change the Unicode degree sign into the VT100 degree sign (as well as to fill in the current date by default). < 1433548226 527903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could have changed the source-codes and recompiled it, but I didn't bother to do that.) < 1433548243 804720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1433548271 758392 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433548302 368807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are two problems with Swiss Ephemeris to be aware of if anyone else is going to use them! < 1433548655 563104 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-223-069.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1433548682 161628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer I can SSH into has no mail or C compiler or man pages or whatever, but from there it is possible to SSH to the computer that does have it. Both computers do share user files though. Do you know why? I don't know why they made it like that!