00:02:08 <oren> wait there's a length limit?
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00:02:51 <boily> qwertyuielloasdfgh?
00:03:06 <boily> helloren! (while you're orenning.)
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00:06:58 <boily> today, my bro pushed me deeper into drug hell...
00:07:40 <boily> I mustn't visit FLGS with him. it's hard on the wallet.
00:08:52 <boily> got a new Race for the Galaxy extension, and Survive.
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00:09:59 <boily> also, ピッこんばんエッチキュー
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00:15:04 <HackEgo> equal temperament/Equal temperament is just intonation that's evenly spaced.
00:16:01 <HackEgo> quadrilateral/Don't you mean "tetrapleur"?
00:18:59 <o-ren> hmm, 四線 doesn't seem to be a word
00:19:46 <o-ren> 四角 is "quadrangle" which doesn't quite mean the same thing
00:21:17 <HackEgo> mnoqy/mnoqy used to be monqy before the earthquake.
00:21:44 <o-ren> the earthquake which ran a sort over his letters?
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00:33:13 <enor> how chmu afiimnnoort do ouy elos by ginorst eht eelrstt I ?denorw
00:35:30 <enor> I egssu eht eglnor eht aaeegrv dorw ,is eht emor beiiiilopssst aer .lost Btu emos deorrs aer beiilmopss fmor eht arstt os abemy ouy illst 'dnot elos a .lot
00:36:07 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
00:36:21 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ceelmow: not found
00:39:06 <oerjan> enor: 'denost kloo oot .adhr
00:40:27 <myname> i am not sure bout ginorst, but other that that, i am okay with it
00:41:26 <myname> there is that text about "the ordering of letters doesn't matter"
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00:41:54 <myname> sorting is actually way harder to read that letting the first and last letter in a wort in place
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00:44:38 <enor> cat >letersort <<<'int compare(char *s,char *c){return*s-*c;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while(
00:44:41 <enor> 1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c
00:44:44 <enor> ==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}}
00:45:42 <enor> `` cat >letersort <<<'int compare(char *s,char *c){return*s-*c;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while('
00:46:08 <enor> `` cat >>letersort <<<'1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c'
00:46:28 <enor> `` cat >>letersort <<<'==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}}}'
00:47:12 <enor> `` gcc letersort
00:47:14 <HackEgo> /usr/bin/ld:letersort: file format not recognized; treating as linker script \ /usr/bin/ld:letersort:1: syntax error \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
00:47:26 <HackEgo> lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups.
00:48:00 <enor> `` gcc -x c letersort
00:48:04 <HackEgo> letersort: In function ‘main’: \ letersort:2:29: error: ‘EOF’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ letersort:2:29: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ letersort:2:62: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘printf’ [enabled by default]
00:50:33 <enor> `` sed -i '1i#include <stdio.h>' letersort
00:50:38 <enor> `` gcc -x c letersort
00:51:04 <myname> why is there a t missing?
00:51:45 <enor> because I typed it wrong the first time and didn't bother correcting it after
00:51:57 <enor> `` cat letersort
00:51:57 <HackEgo> #include <stdio.h> \ int compare(char *s,char *c){return*s-*c;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while( \ 1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c \ ==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}}}
00:52:16 <enor> `` a.out <<<"lettersort"
00:52:17 <HackEgo> bash: a.out: command not found
00:52:22 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"lettersort"
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00:53:10 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"myname oerjan boily elliott"
00:53:11 <HackEgo> aemmny aejnor biloy eillott
00:54:36 <enor> `` ./a.out <<letersort
00:54:37 <HackEgo> bash: warning: here-document at line 0 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `letersort')
00:54:47 <enor> `` ./a.out <letersort
00:54:48 <HackEgo> bash: line 1: 293 Segmentation fault ./a.out < letersort
00:55:00 <enor> oh right 40 char limit
00:55:44 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"何"
00:56:02 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"は"
00:56:04 <pikhq> Looks pretty broken. :)
00:56:44 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"pikhq"
00:57:05 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"HackEgo"
00:57:20 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"fungot"
00:57:21 <fungot> enor: don't really know, i forgot where offby1 works for unnamed function to itself via combinator so you don't have interoperable serialisation. that wouldn't be accepted by a machine, particularly a computer.
00:57:42 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"serialisation"
00:58:01 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"computer"
00:58:20 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"wouldn't"
00:58:56 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"qwertyuiop"
00:59:31 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"hallöle"
00:59:57 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"hallâle"
01:00:23 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"​¢Ãaehlll"
01:00:36 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"​€‚ƒ¢¢¬¹ÂÃÃââaehlll"
01:00:56 <enor> oh, look, I've invented one of those puzzle machines
01:01:32 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"ｶ"
01:01:39 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"ｷ"
01:03:01 <enor> the puzzle being: find a UTF-8 character whose bytes are already sorted
01:03:39 <enor> hmm, as it turns out that's the only ones?
01:03:47 <Sgeo_> Other than that it's impossible. The leading byte of a non-ASCII UTF-8 character begins with 11, and the following bytes begin with 10
01:05:14 <enor> `` sed -i 's/*s-*c/*c-&s/' letersort
01:05:35 <enor> `` sed -i 's/&s/*s/' letersort
01:05:50 <enor> `` gcc -x c letersort
01:05:56 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"ｷ"
01:06:21 <enor> `` sed -i 's/*c-*s/*s-*c/' letersort
01:06:24 <enor> `` gcc -x c letersort
01:06:26 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"ｷ"
01:06:59 <Sgeo_> Hexchat is interpreting the result as something else
01:07:20 <enor> `` sed -i 's/\*s-\*c/\*c-\*s/' letersort
01:07:28 <enor> `` gcc -x c letersort
01:07:32 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"ｷ"
01:07:43 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"hello"
01:07:51 <enor> `` ./a.out <<<"oren"
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01:08:06 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"何"
01:08:32 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"こんにちは"
01:08:45 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"こん"
01:08:49 <Sgeo_> How did that 何 work?
01:09:09 <rone> The bytes are already in reverse order for that character
01:09:17 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"の"
01:09:55 <rone> whereas other characters will have their bytes reordered into a different, possibly invalid, character
01:10:08 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"こ"
01:10:09 <Sgeo_> Oh so a.our reverse sorts? That makes snese
01:11:04 * Sgeo_ watches all consoles get locked down
01:11:07 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"ろ"
01:11:23 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"り"
01:11:57 <Sgeo_> http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Omega_Directive
01:11:59 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"わ"
01:12:11 <HackEgo> bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
01:12:33 <rone> `` ./a.out <<<"”"
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01:13:21 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"「"
01:13:56 <boily> can't see if the dakuten is han.
01:14:03 <oren> oh right apartment
01:14:18 <boily> probably some superposition of both, like a ¾-dakuten.
01:14:31 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"半"
01:14:39 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"じゃ"
01:14:45 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"じ"
01:14:52 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"や"
01:14:59 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"ゃ"
01:15:59 <oren> `` ./a.out <<<"あ い う 餌 お"
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01:19:55 <oren> so what was happening beofre is that apparently the utf-8 on my terminal interprets isolated high bytes as Windows 1
01:20:41 <oren> forming a bizarre hybrid encoding
01:25:14 <oerjan> oren: actually it may be irssi's encoding fallback
01:25:34 <oerjan> which i think either applies to a whole line or not.
01:26:56 <oerjan> except i'm not sure if that final part is consistent with what i'm seeing.
01:27:58 <HackEgo> fact/facts are lies. They are not there. Go away!
01:28:31 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/f/F/' wisdom/fact
01:28:43 <HackEgo> Facts are lies. They are not there. Go away!
01:38:11 <shachaf> do facts form fact groups?
01:52:33 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
01:52:34 <HackEgo> internationale//You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee
01:53:05 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
01:53:06 <HackEgo> ascii//ascii is the plural of ascius
01:53:28 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
01:55:13 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
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01:59:40 <HackEgo> Who cares about ancient cases anyway?
01:59:49 <shachaf> `` hg log wisdom/who | grep summary:
01:59:50 <HackEgo> summary: <oerjan> learn Who cares about ancient cases anyway?
02:08:13 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/internationale
02:08:50 <shachaf> ` grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | wc -l
02:09:49 <HackEgo> You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee.
02:10:32 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
02:10:33 <HackEgo> friendship//friendship wisdom
02:10:38 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
02:10:39 <HackEgo> @//@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour
02:11:04 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/'@'
02:11:13 <HackEgo> @ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour.
02:11:40 <shachaf> ` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"
02:11:41 <HackEgo> maths//maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin
02:12:25 <oerjan> `l/rn maths/Maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin.
02:12:25 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/l/rn: No such file or directory
02:12:30 <oerjan> `le/rn maths/Maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin.
02:12:42 <shachaf> ok, maybe this is a little too reminiscent of the wikipedia thing of the good old days
02:13:00 <shachaf> finding things for you to edit
02:13:53 <shachaf> ` for F in $(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom); do echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"; done
02:13:54 <HackEgo> scotland//<Phantom_Hoover> it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes \ tar//The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf \ ant//ants are animals too hth \ guestbot//guestbot is nobody \ burma//ask Bike \ bird//bird bird bird bird \ otp//onl
02:14:46 <oerjan> i'm not sure any of those need correction.
02:15:12 <HackEgo> gaspatsjo is a norwegian soup, which died out due to a lack of hot summer days
02:15:14 <shachaf> ` for F in $(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf); do echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"; done
02:15:15 <HackEgo> tar//The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf \ algol//ALGOL stands for A Programming Language \ java//java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures \ itym//itym "i think you mean" hth \ ascii//ascii is the plural of ascius \ ngram//cat: wisdom/ngram: No such file or directory \ model//cat: model:
02:16:06 <oerjan> i think that's enough for now, but as a compromise i'll do some more once you start editing wikipedia hth
02:16:37 <shachaf> where's the compromise in that
02:17:06 <oerjan> the part where you get to see through my evil plan hth
02:27:32 <shachaf> oerjan: i was going to edit wikipedia and now it's down tdnh
02:27:59 <oerjan> obviously, that was also part of my evil plan.
02:28:54 <shachaf> can we have the rest of this evil plan in advance twh
02:29:29 <oerjan> i'm pretty sure there's a point on the evil overlord list discouraging that.
02:30:07 <shachaf> does your evil plan also involve the flies in this room?
02:30:26 <shachaf> i have an anti-bug screen on the window that's supposed to prevent flies coming in
02:30:34 <shachaf> but right now it's preventing flies going out
02:31:11 <oerjan> my strategy since i moved here has been to never open the windows hth
02:31:58 <lambdabot> ENVA 050220Z 13006KT 9999 FEW004 08/07 Q1021 RMK WIND 670FT 10007KT
02:31:59 <oerjan> (there's a ventilation system)
02:32:01 <lambdabot> KOAK 050153Z 30016KT 10SM SCT008 SCT180 18/14 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP106 T01830139
02:32:15 <shachaf> well what do i do about these flies twh
02:32:56 <oerjan> i used to trap them between a glass and a sheet of paper
02:32:57 <oren> get fireproof walls, then use axe and a lighter
02:33:14 <oerjan> may not work well on the faster kind.
02:33:48 <oerjan> (step 1: trap with glass. step 2: slide sheet between)
02:34:00 <oerjan> very humane when it works.
02:34:27 <shachaf> would prefer a flye option
02:36:05 <oerjan> oren: http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwb1196.html
02:50:23 <shachaf> oerjan: what's with durkon's teeth, anyway?
02:50:28 <shachaf> why are they skin-colored?
02:53:26 <oerjan> i'm not sure if they're the same color.
02:53:53 <shachaf> I was going to back in the archive and check if they're the same color his fangs used to be.
02:53:57 <shachaf> But I realized that might not work.
02:54:20 <shachaf> the joke is he didn't use to have fangs
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04:00:29 <HackEgo> esosc/esosc is esoteric song contest (also Esoteric Standard Committee)
04:08:15 <HackEgo> md5/MD5 is a hash algorithm mainly used by underdeveloped aliens.
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08:49:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Generic 2D Brainfuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43414&oldid=43412 * 95.175.104.25 * (+3)
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10:18:20 <myname> that generic 2d bf is rather boring
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10:55:57 <Taneb> Hey hey it's the Slereah
10:56:02 <Taneb> People say they Slereah around
10:57:12 <Slereah> I'm the Slereahest of Slereahs
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11:37:36 <Jafet> Applications of deep learning: high-resolution pictures of Miku https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x
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17:18:36 <oren> What kind of a name is Skręta?
17:19:30 <oren> And how come his daughter is just Skreta without an ogonek
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17:25:50 <Jafet> Éogon, son of Écaron and lord of the house of Eopf.
17:29:17 <hppavilion1> I started making a language designed specifically for programming Text-Based Games
17:29:37 <Jafet> (Apparently in Rohan, it is the other way round; diacritics appear in descendants' names.)
17:30:05 <myname> hppavilion1: i have a question about bfml
17:30:07 <hppavilion1> It's based on PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC
17:30:55 <myname> hppavilion1: is it considered possible to have more than one attribute for one char?
17:31:03 <myname> like, can it be bold, underlined and blue
17:31:21 <hppavilion1> That's why each value is assigned to a different bit range
17:31:45 <oren> Hmm i appears that the only languages it could possibly be are polish and lithuanian
17:32:25 <hppavilion1> It also makes it kind of difficult to set up :P
17:32:34 <myname> i had it remembered as values rather than as bits
17:33:35 <hppavilion1> What makes it annoying is that to embolden, you need to do, like, 34,359,738,368 plus signs
17:33:47 <hppavilion1> I'm going to fix that in the specification actually
17:34:16 <oren> With ansi escapes, you could theoretically have bg color, fg color, bold, italic, blinking, underlined, struck through text
17:34:32 <myname> i thought you just have to 34, 34, 34?
17:36:39 <hppavilion1> I'm fixing the spec so that if you follow an instruction with an integer, the instruction is executed _n_ times
17:37:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck Markup Language]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43415&oldid=43395 * Hppavilion1 * (+303) Shortcuts
17:37:21 <myname> isn't every cell responsible for exaxtly one character?
17:37:42 <myname> so, if every cell is the value for bold, the whole text is bold
17:38:54 <hppavilion1> So now +34359738368 is a shortcut to embolden text
17:40:03 <hppavilion1> Whether we use prefix or suffix doesn't matter
17:40:12 <hppavilion1> And I figure suffix makes more sense to me
17:40:49 <myname> as a vim user i have to disagree :p
17:41:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck Markup Language]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43416&oldid=43415 * Hppavilion1 * (+11) Wrapping 36-bit brainfuck
17:41:45 <hppavilion1> Now I specified that BFML is wrapping because more arbitration
17:42:06 <myname> wrapping makes bolding actually useable
17:47:18 <oren> suffixing is better onl if you speak a SVO language where imperatives are 'VO'.
17:48:28 <hppavilion1> Speech2Text+Natural Language Recognition+Command/Control-style game
18:00:39 <MDude> What kind of games are those?
18:06:50 <oren> I think he may be thinking of Command and Conquer
18:07:34 <myname> "tower to d4" "roger that"
18:13:02 <MDude> Yeah, command and COntrol is just a tower defense game.
18:14:19 <MDude> I want a speech to text adventure game.
18:15:30 <MDude> THen you can pretend you're guiding someone through an adventure via radio.
18:16:02 <MDude> Hmm, maybe I should make a text adventure game styled to look like you're guiding someone via phone texts.
18:16:30 <myname> adventure games suitable for google glasses
18:16:48 <myname> okay google, move the infantery two blocks to the right
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18:21:57 <oren> extra technical challenge: do it on famicom using the microphone
18:31:30 <hppavilion1> By command/control I meant a game where you control a group of people indirectly
18:31:49 <hppavilion1> Bonus: A game where you are controling a small platoon of starships by voice
18:32:07 <hppavilion1> While also controlling the lead ship by WASD etc.
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18:51:08 <oren> is there a standard extension for non-C code which must be passed through the C preprocessor?
18:51:36 <ais523> oren: there's .S for assembler+cpp
18:51:41 <ais523> not sure about other cases
18:51:58 <oren> that's the case i'm looking for
18:52:09 <pikhq> I *like* ".cpp", but that's one of the several extensions C++ has taken.
18:52:15 <ais523> note that the S being capital matters
18:52:29 <ais523> (on a case-sensitive filesystem, at least)
18:52:44 <pikhq> Along with cxx, c++, cc, .C...
18:53:01 <oren> I guess you could do pl.#def
18:53:11 <oren> for preprocessed perl
18:53:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43417 * Phase * (+6645) Create Refract page with info from the wiki
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18:54:06 <oren> in this case, I was looking for preprocessed assembler, although I might use preprecessed hexadecimal dump for another thing
18:54:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43418&oldid=43417 * Phase * (+118) /* Multiple Stacks */ Change Markdown to MediaWiki syntax
18:57:13 <oren> hmm yeah for the parts I'm writing in preprocessed hex, I'll use .hex#
18:57:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43419&oldid=43418 * Phase * (-130) Some examples
19:00:09 <oren> The confusion with c++ headers is even worse: .h .hpp .hxx .hh .H .h++
19:00:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43420&oldid=43419 * Phase * (+98) Another examples
19:00:45 <oren> using plain .h and .cpp for C++ code is what my workplace does
19:03:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43421&oldid=43420 * Phase * (+3424) Add operator table
19:05:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43422&oldid=43421 * Phase * (+1) /* External Resources */ Fix link typo
19:06:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43423&oldid=43422 * Phase * (+47) Link to me
19:07:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Phase]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43424&oldid=43397 * Phase * (+14) Link to Refract & Typo fix
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19:15:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43425&oldid=43370 * Phase * (+14) /* R */ Add Refract language
19:23:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43426&oldid=43423 * Phase * (+281) Cool table
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19:27:19 <Sgeo_> http://textsfromevillious.tumblr.com/post/94661173137/618-you-were-so-drunk-last-night-1-618-no (Muzzle of Nemesis/Seven Deadly Sins/Evillious Chronicles spoilers)
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19:35:09 <Sgeo_> I think some of them are pulled from textsfromlastnight but not all of them
19:36:12 <Sgeo_> Incidentally, are Hansel and Gretal good, bad, mix?
19:36:26 <Sgeo_> THey've been called the "cursed twins" at least once
19:38:54 <Sgeo_> I haven't read any of the ...mangas? Just watched the songs
19:39:04 <Sgeo_> I'm sure there are songs I've missed though
19:39:11 <Sgeo_> Only saw Drug of Gold a few days ago
19:49:49 <nortti> I'm not sure myself either
19:53:35 <nortti> oh, interesting, another perspective to conchita? hadn't seen that one myself
19:55:31 <Sgeo_> I honestly don't really like her story that much myself. Until she starts eating people, how is eating a lot incl. disgusting things worthy of the name "Evil Food Eater"?
19:56:22 <Sgeo_> Unless it's 'eater of evil food'? I don't know
19:57:22 <Sgeo_> Drug of Gold is musically catchy though
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22:19:33 <oerjan> <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Refract]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43417 * Phase * (+6645) Create Refract page with info from the wiki <-- i was worried there for a moment
22:19:49 <oerjan> but apparently it's eir own wiki
22:20:37 <oerjan> oren: SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CALL WIKIPEDIA "WIKI" ALL THE TIME
22:21:01 * oerjan isn't quite sure oren was the culprit, but whatever
22:21:46 <HackEgo> The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki
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22:26:09 <Taneb> `learn Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages
22:26:12 <HackEgo> Learned 'wikipedia': Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages
22:26:33 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/wikipedia
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22:27:44 <Taneb> I very rarely write in that style so I get confused
22:28:37 <oerjan> `le/rn tvtropes/We'll write about TVTropes here, we'll just have to finish these tabs first.
22:28:57 <oerjan> `` mv wisdom/tvtrope{s,}
22:29:44 <oerjan> `le/rn tvtrope/We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first.
22:29:51 <HackEgo> We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first.
22:32:38 <oerjan> `culprits wisdom/tvtrope
22:32:42 <oerjan> `culprits wisdom/tvtropes
22:32:56 <HackEgo> Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages.
22:33:07 <HackEgo> Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions)
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22:46:59 <Taneb> How are you doing, boily
22:47:05 <Taneb> Also oerjan and b_jonas because why not
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22:47:33 <boily> my feet hurt, but I spent plenty of time outside playing mahjong with my bro and other people :D
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22:49:29 <boily> what did you today do?
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22:52:36 <ais523> boily: I was asleep most of the day because I'd had 4 hours sleep in the preceding two
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22:52:50 <ais523> (which in turn was because of Parkinson's Law)
22:53:09 <ais523> Parkinson's Law = "work expands to fill the time available"
22:54:06 <ais523> (actually I finished over 12 hours early, then spent many of them doing one more proofread)
22:54:31 <oerjan> since i have no work, my followed websites expand instead.
22:54:53 <boily> boardgaming filled my weekend.
22:55:05 <boily> (and some Towerfall too.)
22:58:36 <oerjan> except when puzzle solving expands instead...
22:59:02 <oerjan> i clearly do structured procrastination, the trouble is none of the levels do anything actually useful.
23:01:28 <Taneb> I played D&D yesterday
23:02:09 <Taneb> It looks like the 5th ed game I'm in is going to end up with 8 or more players, which could be a problem
23:02:18 <Taneb> And I'm the only one not going to be living in Leeds
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23:06:35 <ais523> a group of 8 players, I'd try to break into two groups of 4 and 3 respectively
23:07:36 <Taneb> ais523, which is 7 players?
23:07:46 <Taneb> (that 8 wasn't including the DM)
23:08:11 <ais523> Taneb: you need an extra DM for the other group
23:08:20 <ais523> because one DM can't run two at once
23:10:26 <Taneb> I think the plan is to make it like a bunch of heroes operating in flexible teams
23:10:43 <Taneb> So people can drop in and out
23:13:01 <Taneb> Not sure how well that'll work
23:13:59 <ais523> depends on how self-contained the sessions are
23:14:08 <Phantom_Hoover> give all the characters multiple personality disorders
23:14:16 <ais523> I find that in D&D in practice, there's a lot of "I know we're in the middle of a fight but it's 9pm and we really need to go home"
23:15:28 <Taneb> ais523, yeah, that is a problem
23:16:06 <Taneb> (especially with me getting the train there and back from a different city)
23:16:46 <ais523> the local trains from Birmingham University run up to 11pm or so
23:16:50 <ais523> and the buses up to midnight
23:17:05 <ais523> we used to go to the pub after the games (I don't drink alcohol, but I ordered food or fruit juice sometimes)
23:17:14 <ais523> and then I'd often end up catching the last bus home
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23:21:46 <Taneb> Yeah, I think I can appreciate
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23:22:04 <Taneb> First time we played with this group, I ended up staying over
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23:23:00 <Taneb> Of course, the party's mage has moved to Ireland
23:23:04 <Taneb> So he's had to drop out
23:23:15 <ais523> doesn't know how to teleport yet?
23:23:32 <ais523> totally worth building a teleportation circle for the improved success rate
23:23:57 <Taneb> He's more of an elements chap than a time and space chap
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23:25:44 <Taneb> I have to say, I am very much enjoying playing a Paladin
23:26:21 <Taneb> A vengeance paladin
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23:34:44 <Taneb> I do need to get better at, like, actually roleplaying
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23:47:41 <Sgeo_> http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/internet-now-officially-too-big-ip-addresses-run-out-n386081
23:48:24 <ais523> Sgeo_: specifically, ARIN's out of large blocks
23:48:33 <ais523> but it still has several smaller ones left, that'll last a few months at least
23:48:45 <ais523> (and ARIN is the company in charge of allocating IPs in north? america)
23:51:59 <Taneb> I'm heading to bed now, goodnight