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00:26:31 <oren> idea: everything is a void***... (infinite number of *)
00:28:35 <MDude> Sounds pretty philosophical.
00:28:37 <nortti> what operations could one do on those? assign, dereference, reference, compare equality?
00:28:55 <oren> then we represent an integer N as a void **n such that **n=n and *n-n = N
00:29:41 <oren> in oter words a pointer loop of length 1 and "span" N
00:33:05 <oren> this means that you can;t just stick an integer anywhere. if *A is "2" then *(A+1) can't contain "1" or "-1", and *(A+2) would obviously contain "-2"
00:34:08 <tswett> Here, have some randomly generated #esoteric quotes: http://lpaste.net/136069
00:34:20 <tswett> "hmm, but the program doesn't work with a little message"
00:36:05 <nortti> "Like, I saw some implementations of a mathematician" :D
00:36:11 <nortti> how were these generated
00:36:41 <oren> I hate it when compilers can't annoy my instructions
00:37:19 <oren> nortti: a neural net apparentluy
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00:49:48 <tswett> Karpathy's Internet-famous one.
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01:16:28 <MDude> What esoteric coding things you itnerested in?
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01:48:07 <tswett> Looks like in order to build this one, I need "a cross-compiling copy of binutils".
01:48:46 <coppro> I think you need to sacrifice a virgin to get one
01:49:14 <tswett> Fortunately, it just so happens...
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03:27:42 <MDude> Did you mean to link something there, hppavilion1noili
03:28:25 <MDude> Well I'm actually off to bed at the moment.
03:28:34 <MDude> Sleep based esolands.
03:29:02 <MDude> We cal those we dreams.
03:30:50 * MDude jumps into the air in front of a banner reading "Unstopunble".
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03:34:46 <MDude> Other ideas for sleep esolangs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream#Neurological_theories
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03:43:12 <oerjan> hm sleepfuck is like brainfuck, except the IP sometimes inexplicably jumps between parts of the program that look similar.
03:43:59 <oerjan> so the program evolution looks locally like it makes sense, but not when you try to put it all together.
03:45:09 <oerjan> sometimes i wonder if real life is like that.
03:48:56 <oerjan> sorry, making a brainfuck derivative on the wiki would destroy my cred tdnh
03:49:28 <oerjan> also risk a brain bricking
03:51:45 <pikhq> But how can you call yourself a member of #esoteric without a Brainfuck derivative?
04:00:29 <zzo38> How many bricks you need to make it?
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04:07:01 <oerjan> FreeFull: itym -bolge hth
04:07:40 <FreeFull> Ah, right, Malbolge for the language, Malborge for the circle of hell
04:07:53 <oerjan> no, Malebolge for the circle.
04:09:41 <oerjan> malborge is a misspelling which i've somehow seen around lately.
04:11:03 <oerjan> just change your nick to FleeFurr and claim it was all on pulpose.
04:11:28 <FreeFull> Or maybe Furfur and say I'm an angel
04:13:14 <Sgeo_> *le sigh* https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3cbt5c/please_stop_downvoting_ellen_paos_comments/
04:15:13 <oerjan> to complete the irony, ellen pao needs to respond there and be downvoted to oblivion.
04:16:51 <ppro> the popcorn has been great this week
04:19:16 <oerjan> surely you mean the poprn
04:22:30 <Sgeo_> I almost freaked out when I saw ais523 making changes to the Wikihack wikia, but that was just to mention the Nethackwiki
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07:48:08 <mroman_> incrementing is & and decrementing is *
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09:10:37 <zzo38> How can I make Mozilla use a HTTP proxy for an arbitrary URI scheme and otherwise assume it is like HTTP?
09:13:42 <b_jonas> zzo38: I doubt you'd be able to convince mozilla to do that. maybe if you recompile the whole thing and modify its source, or if you just get another browser for this.
09:14:57 <zzo38> There is a ALLOWS_PROXY_HTTP flag, but I am not sure how to make it work
09:15:23 <b_jonas> also, "low potassium", hehe
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10:05:15 <lambdabot> LOWI 070950Z 28004KT 230V320 9999 FEW075 30/19 Q1016 NOSIG
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10:25:40 <mroman_> zzo38: How would it handle urn:foo:9 then
10:29:10 <zzo38> mroman_: I don't mean all URIs, I mean only schemes I specify. For example if kerjejr:// is specified then it will do "GET kerjejr://whatever"
10:30:06 <zzo38> And if https:// is specified then it does that for https:// and so on, but does not apply to any other URI (such as telnet:// or whatever)
10:34:35 <boily> fizzie: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWIGNAHARGHFLBLGLFLBLBLBLBLBL!
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10:39:02 <mroman_> Somebody should make a formula age(x) where x is the number of Pokémons a person knows
10:44:32 <mroman_> You only know one Pokémon?
10:45:11 <Taneb> int-e, there's like at least 17 pokemon
10:45:20 <mroman_> my generation should know about 150 Pokémons
10:45:43 <mroman_> future generations should know more
10:45:47 <mroman_> and past generation should know less
10:45:59 <mroman_> the formula might not be very precise for old people
10:46:23 <boily> do I have to know their numbers, their names, their appearance, or just that there are 151 pokémons and no more?
10:46:31 <int-e> mroman_: Last I checked I considered myself human :P
10:46:45 <mroman_> Well... the website would display images of Pokémons and you will select those that appear familiar to you
10:46:49 <mroman_> I guess that's the easiest way
10:46:55 <mroman_> and then it will calculate your age based on that
10:47:40 <zzo38> You have to know their number, name, colors, elements, and hit-points
10:47:42 <mroman_> images are probably too copyrighted
10:48:39 <int-e> In that case I know none of them. I've heard there's a franchise with several games... something about collecting them all...
10:48:53 <int-e> I found it stupid as a teenager, never got over that first impression ;)
10:49:10 <mroman_> Yeah, I'll treat you as an outlier.
10:49:20 <b_jonas> mroman_: um, I'm quite sure I don't recognize that many pokemons
10:49:39 <mroman_> I should be able to recognize roughly 150
10:49:44 <b_jonas> oh, you also have to know their number, name, colors, elements and hit points? I wouldn't know all that for any pokemon
10:50:05 <mroman_> I can probably link names to images
10:50:08 <b_jonas> int-e: what? the "collect them all" is only a tagline, isn't it?
10:50:23 <int-e> b_jonas: you're asking the wrong person.
10:50:33 <zzo38> Then you are not a real pokemon fan
10:50:39 <b_jonas> I could probably link about... I dunno, five or ten between names and images
10:52:25 <zzo38> Ten isn't quite enough
10:52:48 <zzo38> Yes, but, Pikachu is #25
10:53:00 <b_jonas> wait, do you have to tell their colors from the image? I think I could guess that for more than ten
10:53:22 <b_jonas> but telling all of the number, name, colors, elements and hit points together? definitely not
10:56:38 <zzo38> Go to the kind of hotel that the color of lights in elevator for each floor, tell you which room number on that floor by the pokemons of that color, rather than grouping 100-199 on one floor and 200-299 on next floor, you do by pokemon numbers colors by floors
10:57:26 <zzo38> Do you like this kind of idea?
10:58:14 <Taneb> I think it could cause problems
10:59:41 <zzo38> Yes I suppose so, although this is something in a dream of such a hotel (dream is very strange things), but also might be good to people who like pokemon
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11:04:50 <fizzie> boily: Is that better?
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11:08:55 <Taneb> There can only be one
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11:11:45 <b_jonas> zzo38: would it be a full pokemon themed hotel, or just a few little things like the room numbering?
11:19:36 <zzo38> b_jonas: I think I don't know?
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11:53:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Paintfuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43431&oldid=36074 * Pgimeno * (+132) /* External paintfuck programs */ Add an interesting decimal counter (the link to the other one is apparently broken)
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12:02:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Paintfuck]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43432&oldid=43431 * Pgimeno * (+7) /* External resources */ Point link to canvas version - Canvas element is ubiquitous nowadays
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13:04:51 <lambdabot> LOWI 071250Z VRB03KT 9999 FEW080 36/17 Q1013 NOSIG
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13:47:59 <mroman_> it's so hot you need gloves to open the door.
13:48:15 <mroman_> because the door handle will burn your hand.
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14:40:11 <mroman_> Aren't there air conditioners that cool by heating water?
14:40:19 <mroman_> or is that physically impossible anyway
14:40:32 <mroman_> the usual air conditioners require a tube for the hot air that is coming out of them
14:40:47 <mroman_> which means you need a whole in the wall somewhere
14:41:04 <mroman_> and you can't make a hole in the wall if it's a rented room :D
14:42:18 <mroman_> so instead of producing hot air they should produce hot water
14:42:25 <mroman_> (obviously below boiling temperature)
14:42:39 <mroman_> from time to time you'll have to empty the water and replace it with cool water
14:53:04 <FreeFull> mroman_: Sure, that'd be possible
14:53:45 <FreeFull> It'd probably have to be a closed container of water to prevent evaporation
14:54:01 <FreeFull> Water does have a high enough heat capacity for this to be possible
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14:59:10 <mroman_> 34 degrees room temperature isn't very funny
15:01:11 <Taneb> mroman_, make sure you are drinking enough water!
15:03:54 <MDude> Instead of putting heat outside, put the air conditioner in the doorway so it heats the rest of the building.
15:05:06 <FreeFull> MDude: I don't think you want to heat the building when it's already 34°C
15:05:46 <MDude> But now it's the rest of the building's problem, and they can use another air conditioner to move that heat further toward a window.
15:06:44 <MDude> Either that, or one could get a fridge or freezer and run it outside/in a garage or similarly ventable area.
15:07:02 <MDude> Then just cool something with a large heat capacity and bring it indoors to absorb lots of heat.
15:08:14 <Jafet> http://google.com/search?q=linux+pipe+buffer+size
15:10:44 <Jafet> This confirms my belief that google will be the one to achieve the semantic web
15:12:05 <FreeFull> Duckduckgo does pretty well too
15:12:57 <FreeFull> Although for that particular query it doesn't show a box on top, I've seen it show boxes with stackoverflow answers before for other things
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15:16:41 <HackEgo> 1240) <ais523> after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist <ais523> they're so unnatural
15:25:38 <shachaf> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=largest+known+prime+number
15:26:06 <shachaf> It used to say 257,885,161, but they fixed it.
15:27:20 <Taneb> It says 17,425,170 now for me
15:29:16 <Taneb> Which is neither prime nor particularly large
15:30:42 <int-e> that's the number of digits
15:31:04 <Taneb> It is not the largest known prime number
15:32:26 <int-e> Well for me it says 2^57885161 − 1, which has 17425170 digits.
15:33:25 <Taneb> It has the number I wrote as the heading for me
15:34:17 <shachaf> Taneb: That number is pretty large.
15:34:33 <Taneb> I can think of bigger numbers
15:34:35 <int-e> actually google doesn't show any of these things for me ... the boxes are one of the things they omit (by refreshing the page immediately) when javascript is disabled
15:37:38 <mroman_> IANA is asking me weird questions :)
15:38:31 <mroman_> about my port registration request
15:44:24 <b_jonas> mroman_: what questions exactly?
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16:21:29 <FreeFull> Fun fact: We don't even know if there are infinitely many Mersenne primes
16:22:20 <FreeFull> But if you're looking for really large primes, you'll invariably look for Mersenne primes
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16:26:46 <Jafet> Real languages are like real numbers. Many problems can't be solved with them, and using them for analysis is terrible.
16:32:22 <Jafet> You know, if google wants to, it can easily update the result for the largest known prime
16:32:36 <Jafet> "As of March 2013, GIMPS has a sustained aggregate throughput of approximately 137.023 TFLOP/s"
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20:00:59 <zzo38> mroman_: Yes, what kind of question, please?
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21:17:37 <tswett> For the most secure RSA key possible, you should multiply together the two largest known primes.
21:20:48 <tswett> Wikipedia asserts that ancient Greek mathematicians discovered that 3 is a prime number.
21:21:37 <tswett> Sort of an interesting discovery, insofar as it sounds like barely a discovery at all.
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21:31:25 <Taneb> tswett, sometimes, 2 is a prime number too!
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22:20:06 <singingboyo> huh, wonder what that 7SC1 after the smoke indicator means
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22:30:19 <shachaf> boily: whoa whoa whoa, you're coming to california?
22:31:42 <shachaf> where else would you be [redacted]
22:33:35 <boily> I don't really [redacted], I prefer to [expunged] while I *BLEEP* (of course, pineapples are moved beforehand).
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22:35:37 * boily wonders how many Californian pineapples there are
22:39:16 <boily> singingboyo: FU7 is some kind of cloud occupying 7/8th of the sky. SC1 are stratocumulus sitting at 1/8th of the sky.
22:39:54 <boily> (it was approximatively determined the other day that FU clouds are negative temperature fungot clouds hth)
22:40:22 <lambdabot> KOAK 072153Z 27015KT 10SM FEW018 SCT180 22/14 A2997 RMK AO2 SLP146 T02170139
22:45:36 <lambdabot> ENVA 072150Z 34006KT 9999 FEW020 BKN045 10/06 Q1002 RMK WIND 670FT 33007KT
22:46:11 <HackEgo> wfraatw/A WFRAATW is a well-founded recursive acronym akin to "WFRAATW".
22:46:36 <oerjan> how is that well-founded, exactly
22:46:50 <oerjan> looks pretty self-referential to me
22:47:21 <oerjan> i suppose the definition might be impredicative.
22:49:06 <HackEgo> urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database.
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23:44:38 <HackEgo> Å/Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters.
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23:47:00 <HackEgo> bonvenon/Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.)
23:47:07 <HackEgo> elliott/elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur.
23:47:30 <HackEgo> oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Taneb oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan tswett shachaf int-e shachaf tswett shachaf tswett oerjan shachaf oerjan shachaf ais523 int-e int-e int-e int-e shachaf int-e mroman_ oren_ oren_ oerjan oerjan oerjan shachaf shacha
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23:48:38 <boily> `relcome BlueProtoman
23:48:39 <HackEgo> BlueProtoman: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
23:49:06 <BlueProtoman> boily: Thank you, but I've been here before. Been lurking the wiki for years, actually
23:50:11 <boily> have you created any esolangs?
23:50:52 <BlueProtoman> No, but I implemented Brainfuck and a small extension thereof back in high school.
23:51:29 <BlueProtoman> Also, how the hell does HackEgo do those colors?
23:53:11 <int-e> BlueProtoman: you can complain to the mirc developers for that. http://www.mirc.com/colors.html
23:54:00 <int-e> BlueProtoman: which implements the same color codes...
23:54:26 <int-e> Afaik mirc invented them. So that's where you should take the blame ;-)
23:54:45 <BlueProtoman> I'm not complaining. I just never seem to get them right!
23:54:52 <int-e> (irssi implements them as well, but at least it's possible to disable them)
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