00:11:55 <jayCampbell> taneb mine works https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/esolangs/brainfuck-in-snap-screenshot.png
00:12:56 <jayCampbell> FreeFull: self interpreters list at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck
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01:41:31 <oren> god damn it google stop autocorrecting my employer's name to an unrelated comapny name
01:42:25 <Wallacoloo> Your employer's name wouldn't happen to be "comapny", would it?
01:43:03 <oren> no. soundhound -> soundcloud
01:44:04 <oren> I mean, how is that even a valid typo?
01:44:31 <oren> cl are nowhere near h on eny keyboeard I've seen
01:45:29 <oren> maybe they're doing naive edit distance, but I would expect better from Google
01:53:15 <Taneb> oren, it could be they're sharing code with the voice recognition
01:54:35 <oren> hmm that makes a lot of sense taneb
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02:30:12 <tswett> oren: I occasionally make macrotypos like that. Like I try to type "will" but accidentally type "which" instead.
02:30:44 <tswett> All my fingers hit the keys correctly; it's just that those keys belonged to the wrong word.
02:31:09 <tswett> Accidentally typing "cloud" instead of "hound" sounds pretty plausible, at least for me.
02:32:46 <oren> hmm interesting.
02:33:33 <oren> well google seems to have learned what I'm likely to search
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03:08:23 <zzo38> But it says it failed to create a filesystem.
03:09:27 <zzo38> Do you know how to fix it please?
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03:30:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43551&oldid=43550 * Phase * (+86) /* Examples */ Factorial
03:40:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43552&oldid=43551 * Phase * (+260) /* Factorial */ Give explanation
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05:47:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43553&oldid=43552 * Phase * (-6) /* Repeat a string */ Better example
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07:46:32 <oerjan> i hear there are a number of approaches, but they're all boring hth
07:46:54 <oerjan> except for those that are just plain scary awful.
07:47:41 <rdococ> function whatIsBoredness() { return typeOf(boredness) }
07:48:11 <rdococ> oh... boredness is a float... from 0 to 1
08:17:36 <mroman_> Bored is the default state of the human mind.
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09:42:58 <lambdabot> 0.7071067811865475 :+ 0.7071067811865475
09:54:29 <Jafet> > signum (1 :+ 1) :: Complex CReal
09:54:30 <lambdabot> 0.7071067811865475244008443621048490392848 :+ 0.7071067811865475244008443621...
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10:55:36 <boily> izabellora! int-ello!
10:58:09 <int-e> I'm so excited to be here today!!!!1 Oh wait, that's just the caffeine...
10:59:09 * int-e wonders how esoteric proving things in Isabelle is...
11:00:11 <int-e> it's a proof assistant, https://isabelle.in.tum.de/
11:09:42 <Jafet> Not very. It even has a GUI.
11:10:04 <Jafet> HOL Light and its raw ocaml shell, on the other hand...
11:10:50 <int-e> I have a colleague who works with that... but from afar at least it does look very tedious.
11:14:52 <Jafet> If you're really masochistic, you could use the opentheory stack language: http://opentheory.gilith.com/opentheory/packages/axiom-infinity-1.12/axiom-infinity.art
11:20:09 <fizzie> Huh, I didn't know signum did that for complex numbers.
11:22:13 <Jafet> Well, the required property is that signum x * abs x == x.
11:22:25 <fizzie> Yes, it sure makes sense.
11:25:56 <Jafet> Speaking of required properties, Isabelle/HOL functions have to be defined for all inputs. So division is defined such that x div 0 = 0. But people wanted to keep the theorem x mod y = x - x div y * y, so it's also defined that x mod 0 = x.
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13:21:46 <jayCampbell> taneb my loops are half broken too so egg on my face
13:23:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * AlbertBrown * New user account
13:24:12 <jayCampbell> i'm sure it's just a missing pointer bump at the end of the loops
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13:26:26 <Taneb> https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1234507/ is mine
13:27:39 <jayCampbell> i saw your emulator a couple weeks ago actually
13:29:39 <Taneb> I should do more esolang interpreters in Scratch or similar
13:30:21 <Taneb> Scratch has that as well I think
13:30:27 <fizzie> Taneb: That's a lotta nesting. I think it'd be nice to have the "switch" at one level of indentation, even if it were slightly less efficient.
13:30:40 <jayCampbell> in theory you could broadcast "hey, handle the current op" and little third party snippets could decide if they want to act on the op
13:30:51 <jayCampbell> so you can add brainfuck variants just by adding the extra ops
13:31:11 <Taneb> fizzie, I wrote it 5 years ago when I was a less good programmer
13:31:36 <jayCampbell> somehow my kit didn't include switch so i'm a flat set of if's
13:32:18 <fizzie> Yes, it was a metaphorical switch.
13:33:02 <jayCampbell> snap has Build Your Own Blocks but i've stayed with vanilla blocks
13:33:26 <jayCampbell> fizzie here's a snapshot of mine from last night, i forget if you were around https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/esolangs/brainfuck-in-snap-blocks.png
13:34:15 <jayCampbell> speaking of "less good programming", is anybody working with AST parsing, manipulation or code generation?
13:34:24 <fizzie> What does a 'warp' block doo?
13:35:27 <Jafet> Random thought: is there a visual programming tool that can import programs from their screenshots
13:35:44 <Taneb> jayCampbell, it makes screen update asynchronous, I think
13:36:36 <jayCampbell> jafet with imperfect OCR it'd be nearly useless, like a cat making random changes to bytes of your code
13:37:01 <Jafet> Since the text is drawn by computer, that shouldn't be a problem.
13:37:09 <jayCampbell> if it's a screenshot of code and not a camera pic, yeah, should be easy
13:37:28 <jayCampbell> in this case i have an xml to back up the screenshot
13:37:51 <jayCampbell> snap has a Publish button but i can't find anywhere they're published to
13:38:24 <Taneb> Have you tried pressing the button
13:39:27 <fizzie> Taneb: I have a "launch the nukes" button but I can't find anywhere they're fired to.
13:41:18 <Jafet> Have you tried launching the nukes in debug mode?
13:41:28 <Taneb> jayCampbell, does it crash in the same place?
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13:48:20 <Taneb> I can't even remember how mine works
13:48:35 <Taneb> (although it's certainly not complicated, I just haven't touched it in 5 years)
13:49:44 <Taneb> I normally write small programs for fun rather than impressive things
13:50:41 <Taneb> Although I am still proud I wrote solutions to Project Euler problems that worked decently in Scratch
13:51:17 <fungot> fizzie: then how do you save files in emacs?
13:51:28 <Taneb> I did write an intentionally quartic time fizzbuzz in Haskell recently
13:51:41 <fizzie> fungot: C-x C-s, just like anyone else.
13:51:42 <fungot> fizzie: s/ duct tape/ glue with fnord fnord..." is
13:52:15 <Taneb> https://github.com/AbstractBeliefs/BadBuzz/blob/master/Haskell/Taneb2.hs
13:53:20 <jayCampbell> [09:52] <Taneb> I normally write small programs for fun rather than impressive things
14:04:59 <jayCampbell> for a kindergartener or a brainfuck interpreter
14:10:10 <mroman_> There should be a self-interpreting factor
14:10:28 <mroman_> Given a brainfuck program P and a self-interpreter S
14:10:33 <mroman_> count the cycles S(P) takes
14:10:47 <mroman_> x0=S(P),x1=S(S(P),x2=S(S(S(P)) and so on
14:11:12 <Taneb> jayCampbell, that sounds like an improvement
14:11:51 <mroman_> oh. my irssi buffer was behind. :(
14:13:43 <Jafet> Your buffers are indeed behind: http://eigenratios.blogspot.com
14:15:37 <Taneb> Can any real number be represented as a continued fraction with all numerators set to 1?
14:18:19 <Jafet> At every step you have a real number in the range [0, 1), so it is always possible.
14:22:44 <Jafet> > let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-n)) in cfrac (pi::CReal)
14:22:45 <lambdabot> No instance for (Integral CReal) arising from a use of ‘cfrac’
14:22:45 <lambdabot> In the expression: cfrac (pi :: CReal)
14:22:56 <Jafet> > let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in cfrac (pi::CReal)
14:23:16 <Jafet> Ugh, creal is so inefficient
14:23:25 <Jafet> > let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in take 100 $ cfrac (pi::CReal)
14:23:31 <Jafet> > let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in take 10 $ cfrac (pi::CReal)
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14:24:48 <Jafet> Also, that probably isn't the best conversion algorithm either
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15:28:39 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
15:32:25 <jayCampbell> <Jafet> > let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in take 10 $ cfrac (pi::CReal)
15:37:22 <HackEgo> Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell'
15:38:26 <Jafet> `ln wisdom/haskell{,\'}
15:38:26 <HackEgo> ln: accessing `wisdom/haskell{,\\\'}': No such file or directory
15:38:33 <Jafet> `` ln wisdom/haskell{,\'}
15:40:35 <jayCampbell> Scientists Develop Nutritious Seaweed That Tastes Like Bacon
15:40:47 <jayCampbell> everybody go home, we're done with science
15:43:22 <Jafet> Scientists develop nutritious human that tastes like seaweed
15:44:15 <Taneb> Scientists develop nutritious bacon that tastes like human
15:44:59 <Jafet> Nutritious bacon? Impressive.
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16:55:23 <Taneb> jayCampbell, http://i.imgur.com/ADdkS1P.png
16:55:35 <Taneb> Haven't implemented input yet
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17:00:21 <jayCampbell> bf +++++++++++>+>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<<<<<<[>[>>>>>>+>+<<<<<<<-]>>>>>>>[<<<<<<<+>>>>>>>-]<[>++++++++++[-<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>[-]<[-]]>[<<[>>>+<<<-]>>[-]]<<]>>>[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>[-]<[-]]>[<<+>>[-]]<<<<<<<]>>>>>[++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]]++++++++++<[->-<]>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]<<<<<<<<<<<<[>>>+>
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17:02:46 <fizzie> It's the silliest thing that both fungot's internal and display formats for bf code do the RLEish thing, but the input doesn't. :/
17:02:47 <fungot> fizzie: unless you're in one of the references on olin shivers' phd theses are good starts for the basis, and cursors can trivially be implemented in an optimized way of doing it was.))
17:03:10 <Taneb> jayCampbell, can you send me a link?
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17:25:42 <Taneb> jayCampbell, can you please send me a link to the fib program pleae?
17:35:13 <Taneb> Is it http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/fib.b ?
17:35:19 <Taneb> Because it runs that correctly
17:38:46 <Taneb> jayCampbell, now with input: http://i.imgur.com/qd5o8Rj.png
17:40:04 <Taneb> It also does Hello world through Dbfi
17:41:13 * oerjan learns that while ghc doesn't ensure global coherence for class instances, it does so for type family instances
17:42:00 <oerjan> or in other words, someone already thought of my latest unsafeCoerce idea.
17:45:25 <Taneb> jayCampbell, here is XML: http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/bf_snap.xml
17:47:16 <jayCampbell> you replace instructions in-place with jump addresses, nift
17:49:09 <Taneb> I use the sign bit to tell if it is a forward jump or backward jump
17:49:18 <Taneb> But the addresses are absolute
17:54:03 <Taneb> jayCampbell, if you can think of any improvements, feel free
17:54:41 <Taneb> Oooh, that's a bug
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18:06:03 <Taneb> jayCampbell, there is at least one bug in this program
18:06:25 <jayCampbell> mine too still, i keep spitting out non-primes
18:06:49 <Taneb> What bf program are you running?
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18:09:41 <Taneb> That would explain why it's printing non-primes :)
18:11:03 <jayCampbell> it was working 4 hours ago [10:09] <jayCampbell> 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21
18:13:34 <jayCampbell> i was going to put jump addresses in two pairs of arrays (index and pointer, left and right)
18:14:29 <jayCampbell> then integers in the command stream could be optimized collapses of ++++++++ and -------
18:19:18 <jayCampbell> http://snap.berkeley.edu/snapsource/snap.html#present:Username=jens&ProjectName=funny%20face
18:20:13 <jayCampbell> so mine is http://snap.berkeley.edu/snapsource/snap.html#present:Username=jayCampbell&ProjectName=brainfuck
18:22:04 <jayCampbell> it shows the canvas, not the dev environment
18:22:55 <jayCampbell> here's some stuff from jens https://plus.google.com/+JensM%C3%B6nig/posts
18:24:34 <jayCampbell> oh the dev env is there, canvas starts maximized
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18:43:31 <mauris> for a thingy with a lambda as its logo this seems awfully imperative/procedural
18:44:59 <HackEgo> tvtrope/We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first.
18:45:02 <Taneb> mauris, it does support functional programming which was originally what set it apart from Scratch
18:45:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:JayCampbell]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43554&oldid=12931 * JayCampbell * (+244)
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18:49:01 <HackEgo> character/A character is just a homomorphism to the group of complex numbers of modulus 1.
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18:55:03 <Jafet> Some species can thrive in such artificial environments, such as topologists (homo topi).
19:02:17 <mauris> http://i.stack.imgur.com/T7qLM.png
19:02:48 <mauris> i honestly can't tell if this is a mathematica joke or a mathematica proof-of-"why-would-you-do-that"-ness
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20:01:30 <lambdabot> LOWI 171950Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW030 SCT060 BKN180 17/16 Q1025 NOSIG
20:02:04 <oerjan> one more and you'd be swimming
20:06:56 <lambdabot> EGLL 171950Z 28008KT CAVOK 19/10 Q1013 NOSIG
20:07:07 <fizzie> It says it's not humid, but it sure doesn't feel that way.
20:07:19 <fizzie> Actually outside it was surprisingly pleasant at sunset time.
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20:27:06 <fizzie> Translation now is to help the computer ferocious landing force.
20:34:58 <Jafet> Attention all passengers, this is captain fungot speaking. We are currently experiencing a ferocious landing force.
20:34:58 <fungot> Jafet: is there any difference between that and a reference to its object representation. ( the fnord takes the stream to write to a pipe isn't exactly rocket science.
20:39:09 <int-e> fungot: you're disturbingly good at imitating IRC chatter
20:39:09 <fungot> int-e: what more do you expect him to cognitively work better.
20:39:31 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
20:40:34 <int-e> . o O ( but the fnord giveth it away )
20:40:50 <HackEgo> log/I think you might mean !logs
20:42:45 <HackEgo> [U+2D88 ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE NOA]
20:42:56 <tswett> Man, the neural net got that one completely wrong.
20:43:08 <tswett> It identified that character as "U+033/ ANDHIYNOIN ODGOAT SOL UNINULE CHArGE FOOF".
20:43:46 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: coin: not found
20:44:02 <int-e> `` coins # or is this the wrong bot?
20:44:03 <HackEgo> boidcoin memblecoin comfgcoin braidcoin .coin befuckcoin sureheadcoin wakecoin magnifullvcoin smillicoin noobabtizedcoin hargaturklincoin uelyfaitaffriecoin rewcoin tungercoin auckycoin myoycoin abccoin ascucoin bfpcoin
20:44:04 <HackEgo> ><>coin concoin persublingcoin drainfuchcoin posioncacoin tercoin aatesyzcoin crafcoin metrucoin truircoin trudecoin devissimcoin optehinncoin extcoin eloquackcoin iintecoin treedcoin xnveycoin intencoin levcoin
20:44:19 <int-e> ><>coin <-- wouldn't trust that one
20:44:40 <tswett> As my grandpa used to say: "Don't take no ASCII fish nickels."
20:44:53 <HackEgo> words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords
20:45:20 <Jafet> ><> is a rather fishy word
20:45:47 <int-e> "noobabtized" is a cute word though
20:47:18 <Jafet> .coin sounds better for SEO than befuckcoin.
20:48:50 <oerjan> depends on your target group
20:50:56 <HackEgo> lambdabot/lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src.
20:51:01 <HackEgo> tswett tswett kmc oerjan elliott oerjan FireFly ion kmc kmc
20:53:28 <tswett> Eh? When did I edit it?
20:56:39 <int-e> <tswett> rm bin -r <tswett> revert
20:57:06 <int-e> you'll be getting a lot of credit for that :)
20:58:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43555&oldid=43553 * Phase * (+200) /* Examples */ another example
20:58:54 <HackEgo> tswett is livin' it up with the penguins because he's so bad at following directions.
20:59:33 <HackEgo> cat: caa: No such file or directory
21:00:53 <int-e> . o O ( `learn_append tswett he invented bin/*. )
21:01:26 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: *: not found
21:02:24 <tswett> Come to think of it, the entire Cold War seems kind of like history, too.
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21:03:52 <int-e> `` echo 'echo $(ls bin | shuf -n 1) $*' > bin/\*
21:03:58 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/*: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/*: cannot execute: Permission denied
21:04:09 <int-e> `` chmod +x bin/\*
21:04:44 * int-e doesn't dare to `` sed -i s/echo.// bin/\*
21:05:32 <HackEgo> ̊ :-( 0 113500 a a.o a.out argv.py bdsmreclist bin blah blah \ blah blah \ blah \ blah canary cat Complaints :-D dc dog emoticons error.log etc factor faith fu head hello hello.c hi hours ibin index.html?dl=1812 interps le letersort lib MaFV paste people.py pref prefs py.py quines quotes random_elliott real script.ppy script.py selflink share s
21:06:39 <int-e> `culpritz people.py
21:06:41 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: culpritz: not found
21:06:43 <int-e> `culprits people.py
21:07:19 <HackEgo> shuf: read error: Is a directory
21:08:09 <Taneb> int-e, I don't remember doing that
21:09:13 <int-e> Taneb: <Taneb> echo "! ls" > dc -e ? <-- doesn't look intentional anyway
21:11:00 <int-e> `` echo $(cat emoticons/*)
21:11:01 <HackEgo> lol 凸 ｶﾞ~(ﾟﾛﾟ;)~ﾝ (°Д°) (≧∇≦)/ ¯\(°_o)/¯ ーー蟲蟲 オラオラオラ（三･o･）三☆三（｀ε´三）無駄無駄無駄無駄
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21:35:56 <b_jonas> My copy of the Hacker's Delight (2014) book has arrived today, great
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22:27:29 <boily> quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAH!
22:36:22 <boily> I'm sorry, I won't be able to border lands with you tomorrow :(
22:37:24 <quintopia> you would be a happier person if you went to chicago next weekend
22:38:08 <boily> hmm... that's extremely tempting. I could use some real pizza.
22:39:44 <boily> I got AC. sweet, cold AC.
22:40:00 * boily hugs his AC unit «toi et moi, on est fait pour être ensemble»
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22:41:48 <fungot> boily: i'll take a look at
22:42:09 <boily> fungot: a quick look, I hope. otherwise you'll be sublimated. have you seen that?!?
22:42:09 <fungot> boily: bubble sort is the canonical truth value.
22:42:21 <boily> quintopia: sort bubbles. apparently it's refreshing.
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22:58:18 <quintopia> well i have arrived. lemme know when youd like to reschedule for
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23:10:20 <boily> will keep you updated for when my schedule settles down.
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23:25:46 <oren> er, good evening
23:32:57 <oren> regular brainfuck: uses only characters *\[]+-/. matches a string if, as a regex, it matches the shortest string of + - and . that would print that string if interpreted as a brainfuck program
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23:36:25 <oren> e.g. the regebf '\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+' matches a single '!'
23:37:09 <oren> well that's actually an extended regebf
23:38:53 <oren> hmm wait no you need the following chraters only: ?\+-[]
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