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00:29:24 <hppavilion[1]> Hi
00:30:02 <oerjan> lo
00:31:47 <hppavilion[1]> -_-
00:31:59 <oerjan> >_>
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00:49:57 <oren> `? RAII
00:49:58 <HackEgo> RAII? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:52:12 <oren> `le/rn RAII/RAII is Resource Allocation in the constructor... wait wait uh... Is uh, Initialization
00:52:14 <HackEgo> Learned «raii»
00:52:45 <shachaf> Why not `learn?
00:52:58 <oren> I like /
00:53:02 <shachaf> You're lucky `le/rn happens to lowercase the input.
00:53:15 <shachaf> It doesn't do any of the other transformations required to make a wisdom entry.
00:53:17 <Sgeo> Apparently even on Reddit I'm boring: https://www.reddit.com/r/User_Simulator/comments/3dzjbp/lets_all_test_here/ctad1js?context=3#ctad0c3
00:53:24 <shachaf> just wait for oerjan to hear about this
00:54:29 <oren> Reddit is a poor imitation of *chan
00:54:39 <oerjan> i could get simulated, but then i'd have to kill you
00:54:49 <shachaf> what's that wisdom entry for
00:55:20 <shachaf> with the whole "wait wait uh" thing
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00:56:08 <oren> It makes fun of the fact that the RAII acronym makes no sense
00:57:14 <shachaf> ok but i don't buy that it helps the wisdom database
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00:57:53 <oren> it helps it by being funny if you know what it is
00:58:58 <shachaf> I know what RAII is (and I think "RAII" isn't a particularly good name for it -- "RDID" is slightly better but also not great) and I don't think it's funny.
01:02:21 <oren> `? RAII
01:02:22 <HackEgo> RAII is Resource Allocation in the constructor... wait wait uh... Is uh, Initialization
01:04:17 <oren> `learn RAII means you allocate in the constructor and deallocate in the destructor. There is no 'initializer' involved.
01:04:20 <HackEgo> Learned 'raii': RAII means you allocate in the constructor and deallocate in the destructor. There is no 'initializer' involved.
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01:05:18 <oren> there is that less humorous enough
01:06:27 <oren> `?
01:06:28 <HackEgo> ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:06:32 <oren> `wisdom
01:06:34 <HackEgo> gopher/Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first.
01:06:39 <oren> `wisdom
01:06:40 <HackEgo> latex/LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \}
01:06:49 <zzo38> There was a problem with PHIRC because it was expecting PuTTY but now it is xterm instead, so it wouldn't wrap lines or backspace properly, as well as some other problems, but I fixed it by making a shell-script to wrap around it, as well as a program called "winchset.c" which just copies from stdin to stdout until EOF, except that when it receives SIGWINCH it will report the terminal size of stdin to stdout.
01:07:38 <zzo38> I can send the program in case you would need it
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01:25:18 <oren> `wisdom
01:25:19 <HackEgo> indexed monad/Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. \ Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors.
01:25:36 <oren> `wisdom
01:25:37 <HackEgo> bdsm/BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it.
01:25:45 <oren> `wisdom
01:25:47 <HackEgo> _̰̆̓_�̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋�̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞/_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞
01:26:13 <oren> `wisdom
01:26:14 <HackEgo> famicom/Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan.
01:26:18 <oren> `wisdom
01:26:19 <HackEgo> roujo/Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting.
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02:41:49 <coppro> anyone here with experience with GitHub's premium services?
02:45:27 <tromp_> i pay to have private repos
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02:54:23 <coppro> tromp_: mind answering some quetsions in PM?
02:54:36 <tromp_> i dont mind
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03:08:06 <zzo38> What is the calculation called when you have one number and the answer is the original number divided by all square numbers it can be divisible by?
03:10:45 <zzo38> (Equivalently, take the set of prime factors which occur odd numbers of time, and take one of each and multiplied together)
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03:14:37 <Sgeo> http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/124431191528/reasons-to-hate-r
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03:39:32 <tromp_> zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-free_integer#Squarefree_core
03:45:29 <zzo38> O, OK
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03:48:20 <zzo38> A Digi-RGB display that wants to support arbitrary resolutions will need to be able to calculate a squarefree core, since it is used to determine what aspect ratio to use. Actually, it only has to determine whether the squarefree core is a particular number; it doesn't necessarily have to calculate squarefree cores.
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05:25:03 <hppavilion1[1]> Dammit
05:25:13 <hppavilion1[1]> Does webchat only allow one server at a time?
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05:42:48 <fowl> Webtv?
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06:37:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Call Queue]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43561 * Hppavilion1 * (+306) Created Page
06:41:12 <tswett> Latest wisdom from the neural net:
06:41:14 <tswett> 16:25:39: <ais523> good light like that is still the last exploit
06:41:35 <tswett> I couldn't agree. Good light like that is, most certainly, still the last exploit.
06:41:42 <tswett> s// more/
06:53:57 <zzo38> I have now written the program to play .MOD/.XM/.S3M/.IT with Linux command-line. It expect music file in stdin and then writes the raw data to stdout you can then pipe it to aplay in order to play it back. You could even do stuff like: amigamml | playmod | aplay
06:57:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Tangle bracket language]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43562 * Hppavilion1 * (+537) Created Page. Hope there isn't already one for it :(
06:57:51 <hppavilion[1]> Yaaaaaaaay I've created a pgae
06:57:54 <hppavilion[1]> *page
06:57:59 <hppavilion[1]> And it might be good
06:58:41 <hppavilion[1]> Anyone want to congratulate me? :{P
06:59:33 <zzo38> Well, let's see what it is and then we can see about congratulating you.
07:00:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Tangle bracket language]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43563&oldid=43562 * Hppavilion1 * (+156) Elaborated on tangliness
07:01:29 <hppavilion[1]> It's more of a concept than a language itself
07:02:08 <hppavilion[1]> Sort of like what I think "Call Queue" should be
07:04:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Tangle bracket language]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43564&oldid=43563 * Hppavilion1 * (+0) Moved {{stub}}
07:04:51 <hppavilion[1]> So?
07:04:55 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38
07:05:01 <hppavilion[1]> What do you think?
07:06:50 <zzo38> I like it
07:07:12 <hppavilion[1]> Yaaaaaay
07:07:21 <zzo38> About moving it, I think just changing the category may work
07:07:32 <hppavilion[1]> I first heard about languages like that with ~ATH
07:07:38 <hppavilion[1]> Moving Call Queue?
07:07:50 <hppavilion[1]> Or moving Tangle Bracket Language?
07:09:15 <zzo38> I meant moving Call Queue as the message on the talk page; that is what I was refering to
07:09:48 <zzo38> I do like the "tangle bracket language" actually it is ideas I have thought before too
07:10:09 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
07:10:14 <zzo38> But the example program seem clear to me
07:10:29 <hppavilion[1]> It's late here and I don't want to think :P
07:10:39 <hppavilion[1]> If you want you can edit the page to explain it to people
07:11:00 <hppavilion[1]> Call Queue is a language, but I think it should be a concept for languages
07:11:09 <hppavilion[1]> But I don't want to delete someone else's work
07:11:23 <hppavilion[1]> So either I'll make a page called Call Queue (concept)
07:11:57 <hppavilion[1]> Or move Call Queue to "Koen's Call Queue Language"
07:12:21 <zzo38> Which seems to be that if x is false then doSomethingElse, otherwise if y is false do nothing, otherwise if x and y are both true then doSomething and then repeat. That's what it look like to me
07:12:53 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
07:13:08 <hppavilion[1]> I'm not going to try to read that
07:13:22 <hppavilion[1]> :P
07:14:27 <hppavilion[1]> I'm tabbed out, so add "hppavilion[1]" to any messages to me
07:16:37 <zzo38> hppavilion[1]: But my idea was they don't have to be tangled it is optional, anyways
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07:17:30 <hppavilion[1]_> Dammit firefox
07:17:41 <hppavilion[1]_> It crashed
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07:19:49 <hppavilion[1]> There we go
07:21:38 <hppavilion[1]> So
07:22:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Tangle bracket language]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43565 * Zzo38 * (+247) This is what I expect the example code to mean
07:22:48 <zzo38> So?
07:23:02 <hppavilion[1]> Yes.
07:23:03 <hppavilion[1]> So.
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07:23:23 <zzo38> OK
07:23:39 <hppavilion[1]> I can't see the update
07:23:45 <hppavilion[1]> How long does this usually take?
07:23:59 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
07:24:01 <hppavilion[1]> It was in talk
07:24:06 * hppavilion[1] facepalms
07:26:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Tangle bracket language]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43566&oldid=43564 * Hppavilion1 * (-20) Implemented User:Zzo38's code
07:26:23 <hppavilion[1]> Thanks for the code :)
07:27:44 <hppavilion[1]> Imma go make a sandwitch
07:27:54 <zzo38> If the && is lazy (like in C) then it doesn't matter whether or not y has side-effects, I think
07:28:01 <hppavilion[1]> Imma go make a sandwitch
07:28:09 <hppavilion[1]> HOW DO I AFK MYSELF
07:28:43 <zzo38> Use AWAY with any non-empty parameter; this won't indicate it except to someone who send private message or WHOIS to you though.
07:28:56 <hppavilion[1]> Oh
07:29:01 <zzo38> (Whatever IRC client you use might have a menu for it; I don't know)
07:29:01 <hppavilion[1]> Well I'm doing it anyway :P
07:29:14 <zzo38> AWAY with no parameter cancels this function.
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07:33:00 <hppavilion[1]> Test
07:37:28 <hppavilion[1]> Iiiiiiiiiiii' dreeeeeaming of a word of eeeeeeendless
07:37:32 <hppavilion[1]> NIGHTMARES
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08:47:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[O]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43567&oldid=43555 * Phase * (+98) link to ReadTheDocs
08:50:41 <fizzie> "Of the fatalities on the railway in 2013/14, seven occurred on a level crossing, 18 involved people trespassing on the railway and 286 were suicide or suspected suicide."
08:51:53 <fizzie> That's not a uniform distribution.
08:51:56 <fizzie> (My morning commute was delayed by one today.)
08:55:46 <scoofy> at least it's a quite failsafe suicide method
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08:57:47 <Jafet> In what sense is a suicide method fail-safe
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09:05:19 <scoofy> that you're guaranteed to succeed
09:06:30 <scoofy> if you take pills but fail to take enough, you may end up living but braindead
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09:11:47 <fizzie> "Reliable statistics on the likely mortality rate of being hit by an overground or underground train are hard to locate. Wikipedia quotes a 90% mortality rate for jumping in front of a high speed train (not when it is slowing down as it comes in to a platform though), and 67% for subway/underground trains, as people are generally jumping as the trains are slowing down coming into a station."
09:13:10 <fizzie> Those are probably out of a hat, but I wouldn't expect it to be entirely foolproof.
09:13:32 <Jafet> Your best bet may be a bridge, but bridges that cross tracks tend to be fenced up.
09:13:47 <fizzie> (And if you do survive, I assume you're quite likely to end up badly injured.)
09:15:47 <Jafet> A handgun would probably have a much higher success rate (but beware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_GNzfEBKI)
09:22:13 <scoofy> well, if you jump before a train that is just about to stop... well that's obviously not fail-proof.
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09:22:33 <scoofy> so... idiots
09:22:41 <scoofy> when you do it, at least do it well
09:23:30 <scoofy> if a high-speed train goes through your body, you're 100% guaranteed to not live
09:23:55 <scoofy> so that 90% mortality rate probably comes from people bouncing off or something
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09:47:12 <mroman_> Features I want Java to have
09:47:31 <mroman_> 1.) allow void bar() { if(condition) return handleError(); }
09:47:48 <mroman_> 2.) allow class overloading
09:48:10 <mroman_> such as class Pair<T,U>; and class Pair<T>
09:52:03 <mroman_> also what happens with exceptions that happen during close if you use try-with?
09:52:15 <mroman_> try(FileInputStream fis = new FileInputStream(new File("foo.txt"))) { }
09:52:23 <mroman_> close() may throw an IOException
09:52:34 <mroman_> but it seems the try-with statement suppresses the Exceptions on close()?
09:57:14 <mroman_> hm no. 
09:57:20 <mroman_> they can be catched in the catch block as usual
09:58:50 <mroman_> this is actually pretty cool
09:58:57 <mroman_> with this, you can sorta get something like destructors :D
10:02:59 <mroman_> you just gotta be careful not to copy references
10:04:51 <mroman_> The only failsafe suicide method is overdosing on barbiturates in combination with a plastic bag over your head
10:05:12 <mroman_> well... it's the fail-safest suicide method at least
10:06:00 <mroman_> wrist cutting and trying to overdose by yourself is generally not really a safe way of doing it
10:06:12 <mroman_> mostly because you have to cut precisely and deep enough
10:06:18 <mroman_> (deeper than you'd think)
10:06:58 <mroman_> and you better take some stuff before-hand that stops coagulation
10:07:56 <mroman_> and you need an anti-emetic if you plan on doing it with drugs
10:08:22 <mroman_> otherwise plastic bag + helium works quite nicely
10:08:34 <mroman_> if your helium tank is big enough and the plastic bag is used correctly
10:08:42 <mroman_> that's how it's done in countries with no legal euthanasia
10:10:00 <mroman_> Since barbiturates are hard to get
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10:28:23 <mroman_> Does rust still have owned pointers
10:28:28 <mroman_> or is that obsolete
10:28:34 <Taneb> I think so?
10:28:52 <mroman_> (crappy thing about rust is, that lots of example code on the net does not compile anymore because rust has changed a lot)
10:29:18 <mroman_> Taneb: data structures in rust are generally value types, right?
10:29:35 <Taneb> I'm not the one to ask, I'm afraid
10:29:38 <mroman_> oh :(
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10:31:36 <Jafet> Chemicals used for lethal injections are extremely reliable, but harder to get
10:45:15 <scoofy> well, injecting any poisonous chemical should be lethal
10:45:38 <scoofy> if the dosage is enough
10:48:17 <scoofy> (though some people injected large amounts of mercury, but did not die, so that's not fail-safe)
10:50:07 <Jafet> The body has some ways to reject toxins.
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10:51:10 <scoofy> if you inject some cyanide, that won't be rejected
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11:00:18 <scoofy> there are lots of common poisons. f.ex. jimsonweed is common, and if you eat a lot, it kills you. or make a tea out of a pack of cigarettes - nicotine is a strong poison so it will kill you
11:00:33 <scoofy> no antidote
11:00:46 <scoofy> so you cannot even be saved, so it's kinda fail-safe
11:00:54 <Jafet> "will" is a strong word. What's the LD50 for herbal nicotine?
11:01:09 <scoofy> 750mg
11:01:48 <scoofy> some think it's 60mg
11:02:10 <Jafet> I guess the relevant product feature is actually LD99
11:02:46 <scoofy> "Standard textbooks, databases, and safety sheets consistently state that the lethal dose for adults is 60 mg or less (30–60 mg), leading to safety warnings that ingestion of five cigarettes or 10 ml of a dilute nicotine-containing solution could kill an adult."
11:02:52 <Jafet> (dosage that's lethal at 99% probability)
11:03:12 <mroman_> eh
11:03:13 <scoofy> well, it's easy - just keep ingesting more until you die
11:03:15 <mroman_> 99% isn't good enough
11:03:19 <Jafet> For many toxins, the LD90 is much higher than the LD50 dose.
11:03:21 <scoofy> 100% failsafe
11:03:24 <mroman_> that's still 1 out of 100 people surviving
11:03:44 <scoofy> 1. drink 1 cup. 2. if not dead within 30 mins, drink another cup. 3. go to step 1
11:03:49 <mroman_> considering there is at least one suicide a day around here
11:03:55 <mroman_> three people would survive each year
11:03:58 <mroman_> that's not good enough
11:04:16 <scoofy> okay, we need ld100
11:04:34 <mroman_> well at max 1 in 10000 who survives
11:04:57 <mroman_> otherwise it's not safe
11:04:59 <scoofy> ld99.999
11:05:06 <Jafet> 99% would already be a great safety improvement over the current estimate of ~10%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_suicide_attempt
11:06:11 <mroman_> obviously rates of nonfatal self-injury is through the roof compared to suicide
11:06:22 <mroman_> that's a useless sentence there
11:07:18 <Jafet> Oh, it includes self-injuries
11:07:46 <mroman_> hu?
11:07:56 <mroman_> self-injury isn't suicide
11:08:18 <mroman_> otherwise I'd have at least 3 suicide attempts within the last month.
11:08:33 <Jafet> Apparently those statistics include self-injuries in suicide attempts
11:08:47 <mroman_> Oh.
11:08:50 <mroman_> That way.
11:09:00 <mroman_> wait
11:09:08 <mroman_> suicide attempts count as self-injury
11:09:15 <mroman_> or self-injury counts as suicide attempt?
11:09:16 <scoofy> i cigarette contains ~12mg of nicotine. so, make and drink a tea out of 5 packs of cigarettes, eat 3 handfuls of jimson weed, and eat 100 caffeine tablets. i think that's almost 100% fail-safe
11:10:24 <scoofy> + swallow some rat-poison, just in case
11:10:31 <scoofy> you can never know
11:12:11 <scoofy> poisons are easily available
11:14:39 <mroman_> Jafet: also if the second one: What forms of self-injury
11:14:57 <mroman_> potentially lethal self-injury?
11:15:11 <mroman_> (however you'd define "potentially lethal")
11:15:21 <Jafet> Ones that would get you sent to a suicide therapist, presumably
11:15:54 <scoofy> here when you have an attempted suicide, they pump you full of drugs
11:18:58 <mroman_> Jafet: Ok, so potentially lethal self-injury
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11:19:28 <mroman_> they don't send you to a therapist just because of cutting that leaves ugly scars but isn't lethal
11:23:03 <Taneb> How did this topic arise
11:23:53 <fizzie> My fault.
11:24:15 <Jafet> Don't worry, it will soon die off by itself
11:24:44 <Taneb> On another note... I am being really unproductive today
11:27:08 <scoofy> "In the late 19th century in Great Britain, attempted suicide was deemed to be equivalent to attempted murder and could be punished by hanging."
11:27:15 <scoofy> lol
11:27:56 <scoofy> "if you didn't kill yourself, we will"
11:27:58 <Jafet> Hanged convicts lost their inheritance to the crown, I think
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12:56:50 <oerjan> morbid channel today
12:58:09 <oerjan> <scoofy> well, it's easy - just keep ingesting more until you die <-- istr at least for some pills the problem is your body is too smart: you start vomiting it up faster than it can kill you
12:59:18 <Taneb> oerjan, I think that way you will eventually die (or get into serious medical straits) from vomiting too much
12:59:20 <oerjan> and i'd also imagine for some poisons, you might pass out and not die
13:00:22 <oerjan> also you cannot get to 100% with anything; you might be accidentally saved by an asteroid impact.  somehow.
13:01:01 <olsner> or killed by the asteroid before the poison kicks in
13:01:14 <oerjan> Taneb: i think the point of the discussion was how to ensure you die with no risk of ending up seriously injured but alive
13:01:30 <oerjan> well part of the discussion anyway
13:01:31 <Jafet> It could be a small meteorite
13:02:29 <oerjan> meteorites are small asteroids or comets, aren't they
13:02:36 <oerjan> and pieces of such
13:17:46 <mroman_> overdosing can cause liver failures 
13:17:50 <mroman_> that's a serious injury.
13:18:16 <mroman_> (overdosing can leave lots of permanent injuries if it fails)
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15:30:51 <Jafet> Apparently Windows 10 will have its very own SPARTAN-aftermarket sidekick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana_(voice_assistant)
15:33:37 <Jafet> (Never mind, apparently it's already in phones)
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17:48:25 <zzo38> My opinion is making a SIGMEM signal that by default does nothing, but a program that can use a lot of memory that isn't mandatory should catch this signal in order to free any memory it doesn't need absolutely (such as a cache), and should probably also try to reallocate existing dynamic memory at the same size as it already was, and to malloc_trim(0)
17:48:48 <fizzie> Android has a thing like that.
17:49:33 <fizzie> There's an onTrimMemory callback you can implement, it's "Called when the operating system has determined that it is a good time for a process to trim unneeded memory from its process."
17:49:41 <fizzie> (Away. ->)
17:52:20 <shachaf> zzo38: I've suggested something like that before.
17:53:24 <zzo38> But I mean that even if the operating system is not running out of memory that you could call it manually by "kill -SIGMEM" command
17:53:33 <shachaf> Sure.
17:54:41 <shachaf> If a program does its own caching instead of relying on the OS page cache, there's no reason for it to hog memory when someone else wants it.
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18:05:06 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:05:18 <HackEgo> mips/MIPS Is Popular in Schools.
18:05:41 <Jafet> Sounds like sched_yield, another interface that nobody ever uses.
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19:29:12 <hppavilion[1]> Hellu
19:30:54 <hppavilion[1]> Sue.
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19:41:31 <zzo38> Is your music playing program a UNIX-style filter?
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19:58:31 <hppavilion[1][1]> Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
19:58:37 <hppavilion[1][1]> I'm 2D
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20:38:44 <oerjan> what, hppavilion[1] left?
20:39:05 <oerjan> @tell hppavilion[1] here's the comic i blathered about http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autowb516.html
20:39:05 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
20:39:28 <oerjan> stupid contrary universe.
20:49:33 <shachaf> `? relrod
20:49:34 <HackEgo> A relrod is a machine useful for finding the Force.
20:49:51 <oerjan> fancy
20:51:31 <shachaf> `` hg log wisdom/relrod | grep summary:
20:51:32 <HackEgo> summary:     <shachaf> learn A relrod is a machine useful for finding the Force.
20:51:34 <shachaf> I don't remember that.
20:52:37 <oerjan> `rot13 relrod
20:52:37 <HackEgo> eryebq
20:55:10 <int-e> shachaf: it's in http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2015-04-02.txt ... hmm still don't get it.
20:55:45 <relrod> oh hello shachaf :P
20:55:56 <shachaf> int-e: I don't either.
20:55:57 <shachaf> relrod: Do you get it?
20:56:05 <relrod> no :(
20:56:14 <shachaf> Oh.
20:56:21 <shachaf> 00:11:06: <boily> what's an elrod?
20:56:25 <shachaf> 00:11:58: <shachaf> relrod: You may be more qualified to answer that than I am.
20:56:28 <shachaf> 00:13:46: <boily> http://www.globalsino.com/EM/image1/3911.gif ???
20:56:31 <shachaf> 00:14:40: <oerjan> ah that must be the machine cern used to find the force
20:57:35 <relrod> `? shachaf
20:57:36 <int-e> oh.
20:57:37 <HackEgo> shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion.
20:57:47 <int-e> shachaf: thanks.
20:57:52 <relrod> well that was ... anticlimatic.
20:57:59 <shachaf> 00:51:08: <relrod> shachaf: Lately I'm on a type theory thing. Trying to work with people in the math department at my school and have them let me do an Individual Study in type theory.
20:58:00 <int-e> (and no that wasn't ironic)
20:58:03 <shachaf> relrod: how's that going
20:58:05 <int-e> (nor sarcastic)
20:58:14 <relrod> anticlimactic*
20:58:44 <int-e> `? oerjan
20:58:45 <HackEgo> Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience.
20:58:47 <shachaf> relrod: if it's anticlimactic feel free to change it hth
20:59:14 <int-e> `? universe
20:59:15 <HackEgo> universe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:59:45 <int-e> `learn The universe was created as an opposing force to oerjan.
20:59:47 <HackEgo> Learned 'universe': The universe was created as an opposing force to oerjan.
21:00:12 <relrod> shachaf: re: your question -- in the math department, not so well, but I did get permission from my CS advisor to do some self-study courses using TaPL and CPDT, so there's that
21:00:36 <shachaf> i,i conflict-free propagated data type
21:00:49 <relrod> w.. what
21:01:00 <shachaf> cpdt
21:01:32 <relrod> no, I got that. I've just never seen that expansion of that abbreviation.
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21:01:52 <shachaf> I made it up, hence i,i
21:01:52 <int-e> @google cpdt book
21:01:53 <lambdabot> http://adam.chlipala.net/cpdt/
21:01:53 <lambdabot> Title: Certified Programming with Dependent Types
21:02:03 <shachaf> @google conflict-free propagated data type
21:02:03 <lambdabot> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict-free_replicated_data_type
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21:03:13 <relrod> shachaf: fine, you win. :P
21:03:43 <relrod> I don't know what you win though. Hopefully not money. Because I don't have any money to give you. :P
21:03:45 <shachaf> But now I remember Smerdyakov's book.
21:05:35 <Jafet> I,I ethical fair trade replicated data types
21:09:13 <shachaf> certified conflict-free
21:09:30 <hppavilion[1]> Floating Boolean
21:09:43 <shachaf> Jafet: also where did *you* get "I,I" from twh
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21:11:20 <Jafet> `quote mauke
21:11:20 <HackEgo> 1151) <mauke> C++ is a superset of a subset of C
21:13:08 <hppavilion[1]> `quote hppavilion1
21:13:09 <HackEgo> 1245) <ais523> hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context  <ais523> because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there
21:13:26 <hppavilion[1]> :(
21:13:58 <shachaf> `` hg log quotes | grep 'fact that it'
21:13:59 <HackEgo> summary:     <shachaf> addquote <ais523> hppavilion1: there\'s not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there\'s interesting context  <ais523> because you can tell it was added from the fact that it\'s there \ summary:     <oerjan> addquote <Phantom__Hoover> the scene: it is a warm summer
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21:17:17 <oerjan> <int-e> `learn The universe was created as an opposing force to oerjan. <-- YOU KNOW TOO MUCH
21:18:46 <shachaf> `` sed -i 's/created/invented by Taneb/' wisdom/universe
21:18:47 <HackEgo> No output.
21:23:29 <mroman_> For every oerjan there is an equal opposite oerjan
21:23:31 <mroman_> meaning
21:23:35 <mroman_> no matter how smart oerjan is
21:23:42 <mroman_> there's going to be someone who is equall dumb
21:23:54 <mroman_> *equally
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21:26:17 <oerjan> `? universe
21:26:17 <HackEgo> The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan.
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21:26:37 <oerjan> i guess that makes it better somehow.
21:26:41 <mroman_> and that person might just be me .
21:26:49 <Phantom_Hoover> `? oerjan
21:26:50 <HackEgo> Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience.
21:27:18 <int-e> The context was: <oerjan> stupid contrary universe.
21:28:33 <oerjan> mroman_: no, the equal opposite to me would be actually successful at what he does, not dumb.  except in math and programming.
21:29:36 <mroman_> damn.
21:29:43 <mroman_> Yeah, I'm not sucessful at what I'm doing
21:30:03 <oerjan> actually, s/he/she/ for more stereotypical oppositeness
21:30:23 <mroman_> You can use "they"
21:30:42 <oerjan> mroman_: that wouldn't be very opposite, i am not a gender neutral person.
21:31:28 <mroman_> Hm.
21:31:30 <mroman_> Right.
21:32:15 <oerjan> i suppose this all depends on which parts are equal and which are opposite.
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21:40:37 <mroman_> or which are random
21:40:56 <mroman_> what's the opposite of having 10 fingers?
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21:41:06 <mroman_> having 9 or 11?
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23:43:51 <hppavilion[1]> Test
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23:56:16 <zzo38> How do I cause it to read a manual page that I wrote?
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23:58:08 <zzo38> O, I may have figure out
23:58:11 <zzo38> Let's try
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23:59:08 <zzo38> OK, it is work