< 1439942842 737293 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1439942855 696131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixeded it. < 1439942865 101647 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439942867 394933 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: welcome back! (and don't insult my mom.) < 1439942867 450862 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you have < 1439942873 649985 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes I have. < 1439942873 704299 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what do you mean? did you really need to get to your point? can you watch flv? < 1439942885 911245 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I have it, tsé. yes, and yes. < 1439942885 965428 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes!! < 1439942917 156859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scary. < 1439942933 835718 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1439942934 529634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D < 1439942939 49207 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1439942941 233303 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!botsnack < 1439942943 232345 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^_^ < 1439942946 337655 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. < 1439942949 447194 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^botsnack < 1439942953 991452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1439942954 45734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1439942963 55025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you seem left out < 1439942963 363473 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but if you evaluate something like ' fnord'." case matters." and " typos"? must be. < 1439942979 350341 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a typo in the botsnack command. understandable. < 1439942983 233095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Thanks for reverting back to insensibility. < 1439942983 541637 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 5 minutes have passed control on to a guy who loves you for shutting up to love me. < 1439942992 431996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def botsnack ul (Oh nom nom nom!)S < 1439942992 486203 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1439942996 410408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^botsnack < 1439942996 512815 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh nom nom nom! < 1439942999 676794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1439942999 779547 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1439943008 763194 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats fungot < 1439943009 71524 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no he's gonna patrol fnord/ fnord that, r2q2. i have neither had the opportunity to discover all of this < 1439944069 425194 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GLUTINOUS CHICKEN < 1439944526 332813 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1439944626 118843 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-11-69.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1439945396 623358 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randian Algorithmic Methods, the objectivist-oriented programming language < 1439945530 990053 :Wallacoloo1!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c0e2:e610:b4fd:85be JOIN :#esoteric < 1439945631 782514 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1439945644 106433 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1439946130 936628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43822&oldid=43804 5* 03206.174.179.24 5* (+2) 10Renaming APL to AnyPL because APL is not an esoteric language (despite appearances). < 1439946237 158473 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1439946740 732098 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, are translated versions out? < 1439947198 484314 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Machine-Base-32: digits are @ thru _ < 1439947271 699738 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. hex 127 = mb32 C_ < 1439947347 283332 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_? < 1439947376 722247 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it goes well with machine hex, which uses digits 0 thru ? < 1439947439 243829 :Wallacoloo1!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c0e2:e610:b4fd:85be PART :#esoteric < 1439947457 734138 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: huh, i can imagine how that works / why that exists, but i can't find any source that uses it < 1439947479 210889 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't exist to my knowlefge < 1439947487 291760 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just invented them < 1439947514 639844 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Machine-Alphabets: upper case A thru Z, lower case [ thru t < 1439947639 376243 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine hex prevents problematic numbers like B16B00B5 from occurring < 1439947743 89864 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439947770 458726 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I assume you haven't translated 0xCDD8 into machine hex. < 1439947793 158102 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHIT < 1439947823 314697 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAA you ruined everything < 1439947871 898570 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty good at it < 1439947914 937252 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, machine-32 makes SHIT and FUCK perfectly valid 20-bit integers < 1439947998 15154 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that fits well with unicode < 1439948070 681459 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, well if you don't count the last plane < 1439948135 538665 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hex most unicode is five digits. in base 32 it would be 4 didigts < 1439948197 97491 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: allow ` and a as the first digit and you will be fine < 1439948216 393253 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would work < 1439948729 757577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also some other codes are not valid Unicode characters, such as surrogates and 0xFFFE and 0xFFFF (although you can still represent them in UTF-8 anyways if you want to) < 1439948893 402562 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: U+FFFE/FFFF is a "noncharacter" and it is fully valid. < 1439948960 877846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't a character though. It can be encoded with UTF-16 but you can't detect the byte order properly with that < 1439948962 536624 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think some programs use FFFE to detect byte order? so while you can embed them into files they break things in some encodings < 1439948969 77154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some other program don't accept it < 1439948993 460526 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they are special in one kind but ultimately valid. < 1439949023 923586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML and RDF cannot use it either, and you should avoid it for portable Unicode data < 1439949053 74889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Noncharacters are in a sense a kind of private-use character, because they are reserved for internal (private) use. However, that internal use is intended as a "super" private use, not normally interchanged with other users. Their allocation status in Unicode differs from that of ordinary private-use characters. They are considered unassigned to any abstract character, and they share the ... < 1439949059 77480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... General_Category value Cn (Unassigned) with unassigned reserved code points in the standard. In this sense they are "less a character" than most characters in Unicode, and the moniker "noncharacter" seemed appropriate to the UTC to express that unique aspect of their identity." < 1439949065 190454 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris_: only the first occurrence will be affected, so a redundant BOM will be sufficient. < 1439949089 908314 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yup, I just want to say that they are not "invalid" in normal sense; they are less usable than others, obviously. < 1439949160 529893 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1439949162 235612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is a kind of "very private", I suppose < 1439949369 27422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In portable data you should not use surrogates either (except as proper pairs in UTF-16 data), since if a program convert UTF-8 to UTF-16 then it will cause problems! < 1439949546 347725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some program that use RDF might expect all ASCII, but even then if the implementation is to be complete, the RDF Turtle parser still has to for example to be able to tell if two nodes are he same even if one time a character is mentioned with \u and other time with the canonical UTF-8 representation. < 1439949548 661355 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BOM in Machine-32 would be A_S_ < 1439949682 767946 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFFF would be A___ and FFFE would be A__^ < 1439950435 281737 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, couldn't you use FFFE to switch byte orders in the middle of a utf16 string? < 1439950546 795292 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in normal UTF-16; semantically it's basically a zero-width non breaking space in the middle of a string. < 1439950558 47233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would depend on the implementation; normally you can't! < 1439951222 710507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is The Elements of Computing Systems a good book? < 1439951282 347173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1439951953 634084 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1439952690 534958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Sheesh, another reboot < 1439952693 247943 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1439953477 622315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1439953637 762928 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1439953666 107723 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1439954109 91606 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439954417 171590 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1439954462 301994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1439954604 676664 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The result of this elaborate translation process, known as compilation, will be yet another text file, containing machine-level code" < 1439954668 942582 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1439954886 98595 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439955088 430842 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439955119 399623 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1439956523 238730 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439957195 692876 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1439957708 628596 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1439958572 824393 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK. how do I make mod_rewrite do something, anything?Q?!? < 1439958606 535107 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RewriteRule "^foo$" "index.html" < 1439958613 709085 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't do jack shit < 1439958682 285111 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :find a goat < 1439958685 79710 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure it's a virgin < 1439958689 326466 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the usual stuff < 1439958708 707447 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the binary code in the blood and translate that as a brainfuck program < 1439958715 92910 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :execute the brainfuck program < 1439958731 868577 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :add the RewriteBlackMagic "key" directive, where "key" is repalced by the output of the brainfuck program < 1439958762 941246 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the program never terminates < 1439958780 865152 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ^foo$ without quotes < 1439958930 268224 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I changed that. http://www.orenwatson.be/foo still 404s < 1439959083 197701 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mod_rewrite enabled? what's in your .htaccess? < 1439959128 910058 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have .htaccess. < 1439959140 482107 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have apache2.conf < 1439959153 679047 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1439959229 712538 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/partialconf < 1439959238 900864 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is comments < 1439959305 945437 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is apache trying to load a file named index.html ? < 1439959309 273308 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1439959322 192132 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/foo < 1439959322 548394 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :AllowOverride All < 1439959333 225509 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok you don't need it < 1439959356 23823 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry just trying < 1439959379 356778 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to have changed anythign < 1439959385 224621 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1439960161 812176 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK why does it suddenly work?!?! < 1439960184 136480 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever wrote the docs for this stuff is an ass < 1439961477 563487 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok so essentially: the thing that the regex tries to match is the part of the FILENAME (WTF) after the directory tag's direcotry. < 1439961506 229047 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ^foo$ won't work. it has to be ^html/foo$ < 1439961561 820864 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :becasue the directory is /var/www and the file is in /var/www/html < 1439961582 329722 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even hough html isn't in the url... < 1439961592 614831 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUGHH < 1439961640 313822 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes so much sense < 1439961648 253387 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least now I can autogenerate html versions of plaintext files instead of duplicating everything < 1439961649 737538 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is going on with firefox right now < 1439961807 936458 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when in doubt pkill -9 plugin-container; pkill -9 firefox; < 1439961829 154151 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkill -9 pulseaudio; pkill -9 blueman < 1439961897 664260 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439961930 374999 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he was using the web irc thing. whoops < 1439962246 92824 :grotewold!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439962251 798617 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1439963058 294534 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :< Sgeo> nortti, are translated versions out? ← didn't seem so < 1439963082 955547 :grotewold!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1439963116 91813 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-48.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1439964311 570031 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better procedure for viewing ansi-escaped files than telnetting in and GET /file.ans ? < 1439964572 299664 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@d1g1t4l.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat? < 1439964623 501614 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@d1g1t4l.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it may depend on your terminal < 1439964754 316451 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind, you can use less -R, I already documented that < 1439965014 838997 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1439965073 484508 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439966020 554495 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1439966066 147909 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439966385 413740 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439966402 586875 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1439970486 450674 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1439971024 91166 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439972278 910023 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439973029 3035 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1439974052 423458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kslkgh 5* 10New user account < 1439975923 856504 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-126-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439977420 677559 :zadock!~outsider@5-13-135-211.residential.rdsnet.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1439978203 930503 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439978931 37199 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439978959 564834 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439978979 952449 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439979120 546682 :zadock!~outsider@5-13-135-211.residential.rdsnet.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1439980934 944827 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-48.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1439982115 955742 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Snowman14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43823&oldid=43798 5* 03Kslkgh 5* (+50) 10 < 1439982441 506523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43824&oldid=43822 5* 03Kslkgh 5* (+39) 10added snowman hello world example < 1439983087 504310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Snowman14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43825&oldid=43823 5* 03Kslkgh 5* (+929) 10 < 1439983476 846393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Snowman14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43826&oldid=43825 5* 03Kslkgh 5* (+3032) 10 < 1439983561 260391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Snowman14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43827&oldid=43826 5* 03Kslkgh 5* (-3629) 10 < 1439983828 17607 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: THUNDER CHICKEN < 1439984073 136550 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-48.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1439984118 565996 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-48.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1439984215 900477 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1439984504 483760 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1439984542 330337 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439984896 624749 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439985406 925023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43828&oldid=43796 5* 03107.1.152.193 5* (+14) 10Added Hello++ < 1439986362 583329 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-48.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1439986364 28298 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-48-26.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1439986369 441242 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-48-26.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1439986956 420106 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1439987595 41154 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;s weird < 1439987650 428089 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you talk to apache and say GET /cp437 with no 1.1 at the end, it ouputs only the file with no http header < 1439988484 652108 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439988885 612991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good old HTTP 0.9. < 1439988904 822432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/AsImplemented.html < 1439988990 972992 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. cool. < 1439989037 549963 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it easy to dump to a file. < 1439989058 92822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original HTTP/1.1 RFCs -- like https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616 -- had 0.9 support as "expected". < 1439989103 63260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that was in 1996. < 1439989143 438017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current one has removed that bit. < 1439989170 563885 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1439989176 776341 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the ability to nc www.orenwatson.be 80 <<<$'GET /cp437' >cp437 is a good thing < 1439989235 448733 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stil don' < 1439989275 350857 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t really understand mod_rewrite but at least I got the autohtmlification working < 1439989361 722406 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only the file cp437.txt on my server. Asking for a file with no extension gives you a txt if it exists. asking for the same file with .htm gives you a htmlified version < 1439989499 591557 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless the same filename with .htm actually exists, in which case I had converted it manually) < 1439989647 187327 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :a list of s/regex/something < 1439989664 228245 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :+/ replacements that are repeated until no match is turing complete < 1439989726 337564 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can just one s/regex/something/ (repeated until no longer matches) simulate a turing machine? I thought about rule-110, but I can only condense it down to two replacement rules < 1439989779 378275 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either one for 1 and one for 0, or one for both using some funny encoding and one for clenup) < 1439989934 984718 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-48-26.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439989979 39225 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-210-253.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1439990281 925087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that allowing for backrefs in the 'something'? < 1439990289 681931 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1439990432 285602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if it could, but that's just a hunch. What do your existing rules look like? < 1439990628 918407 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1439990689 81683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LindenMASM14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43829&oldid=43818 5* 03Vioz- 5* (+3) 10/* Commands */ < 1439990717 857745 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1439990789 26751 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LindenMASM14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43830&oldid=43829 5* 03Vioz- 5* (+0) 10 < 1439990887 987414 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439991907 645256 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1439991973 7763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43831&oldid=43812 5* 03Vioz- 5* (+1) 10/* Examples */ < 1439992443 312984 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1439992475 602650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1439992480 657499 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439992545 210942 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1439992875 602574 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1439993577 547040 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: turns out the method I tried was faulty, it didn't actually simulate a rule-110 < 1439993769 662655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (^^:^^^:^^^^^:^^^^^^:::^^^^^^^^:::^^^:^^^^::^)()~((())~:a~*):a~*~^!(~((!())(!:^(^)*)(!!:^(!^)*))~*^!!^):^(~((()())(:a~*:(*(!^)(:)S)~*~(!*(^)(^)S)~*):a~**((!^)~^!^)(!(^)~^^))~*^( )S!!a:(*)*~(~*)**^~*(()()(!)()(!)(:a~*:(!^(!^((!^)*)(!(^)*))(!^((^)*)(!(^)*)))~*~(!^(!^((!^)*)(!(^)*))(!^((^)*)(!(!^)*)))~*):^)~*^!!!!!!~:^):^ < 1439993770 560653 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^:^^^:^^^^^:^^^^^^:::^^^^^^^^:::^^^:^^^^::^ :^^^:^^^:::^^^::::^::^^::::::^::^^:^^^::^:^^ ^^:^^^:^::^^:^:::^^:^^^:::::^^:^^^^^:^:^^^^^ :^^^:^^^:^^^^^::^^^^^:^::::^^^^^:::^^^^^:::: ^^:^^^:^^^:::^:^^:::^^^:::^^:::^::^^:::^:::: ^^^^:^^^:^::^^^^^::^^:^::^^^::^^:^^^::^^:::^ :::^^^:^^^:^^:::^:^^^^^:^^:^:^^^^^:^:^^^::^^ ::^^:^^^: ...too much output! < 1439993789 185655 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :what doth that do? < 1439993799 453606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule 110 hth < 1439993839 770284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :best viewed in a terminal that's narrow enough to wrap on the spaces < 1439994358 615202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: btw you know the universality proof for r110 requires an infinite cell setup, right? < 1439994398 729098 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1439994434 388667 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1439994499 335412 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439994556 880750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the setup is mostly a leftwards and a rightwards repeating part, though < 1439994603 189585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which _could_ be handled with regexes, although doesn't make it easier to condense down to 1... < 1439994846 628237 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1439994865 839354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/(0)([01]*)(-)[01]([01]*)|(1)([01])([01]*)(-)([01]*)/\2\1\3\4\7\5\6\8\9\6/ looks borderline passable for a BCT. With a [program]-[data string] encoding. < 1439994993 722743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e '$s = "00111-101"; while (1) { print "$s\n"; $s =~ s/(0)([01]*)(-)[01]([01]*)|(1)([01])([01]*)(-)([01]*)/\2\1\3\4\7\5\6\8\9\6/; }' | head < 1439994994 633231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00111-101 \ 01110-01 \ 11100-1 \ 10011-11 \ 01110-110 \ 11100-10 \ 10011-101 \ 01110-1010 \ 11100-010 \ 10011-0101 < 1439995021 533454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1439995036 983662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That matched the "Example" run at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bitwise_Cyclic_Tag up to the second-last line. < 1439995100 904296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the example is just wrong. It says that for command 11, data 010 the next data is again 010 and not 0101. < 1439995166 874022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i think it's right < 1439995207 822125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm missing the copy condition completely. < 1439995212 616165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, will need to add that. < 1439995260 523526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that should be easy. < 1439995445 129787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeating s/(0)([01]*)(-)[01]([01]*)|(1)([01])([01]*)(-)(0)([01]*)|(1)([01])([01]*)(-)(1)([01]*)/$2$1$3$4$7$5$6$8$9$10$13$11$12$14$15$16$12/; in Perl seems to exactly match the example. < 1439995458 438783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to switch from \n to $n due to going double digits. < 1439995541 820322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e '$s = "00111-101"; while (1) { $s =~ /-([01]*)/; print "$1\n"; $s =~ s/(0)([01]*)(-)[01]([01]*)|(1)([01])([01]*)(-)(0)([01]*)|(1)([01])([01]*)(-)(1)([01]*)/$2$1$3$4$7$5$6$8$9$10$13$11$12$14$15$16$12/; }' | head -n 12 # "proof" < 1439995542 655987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :101 \ 01 \ 1 \ 11 \ 110 \ 10 \ 101 \ 1010 \ 010 \ 010 \ 010 \ 10 < 1439995595 409826 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION applauds < 1439995853 436435 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1439996519 736088 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1439996645 877643 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1439997065 355554 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1439998308 467255 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1439998433 88536 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1439999930 710161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Dom111 5* 10New user account < 1439999989 677931 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440000020 847517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome dom111 < 1440000035 375912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07dom111: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1440000072 855561 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey there, just snooping mostly :) < 1440000105 624022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :snooping is good < 1440000120 970107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa, you described me as nosy once < 1440000133 462553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when shachaf is doing it hth < 1440000144 476027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnhib < 1440000199 16315 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, I guess I should hope I don't go too far then! < 1440000260 27835 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ok, I'm not snooping on people, just wanted to see what goes on here really! I've checked out the wiki a lot lately and wondered if I could contribute somehow. < 1440000265 70937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the described nosiness has its benefits < 1440000283 85975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dom111: Most of what goes on here isn't related to esoteric languages. < 1440000304 804244 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just general snooping? < 1440000308 474715 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1440000358 954460 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, I didn't properly look at the channel name to be honest ... < 1440000399 704425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dom111: E.g. http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/b0/14/d0b014bd22206e0cd62de10b493354ae.jpg < 1440000425 568037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not get carried away, it's _supposed_ to be about esolangs. < 1440000456 515490 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a bit more like this: http://i.imgur.com/DwR4aOE.png < 1440000457 47221 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1440000478 741903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dom111: that looks like regular snoopy < 1440000482 754107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my link was general snoopy < 1440000505 520641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the red baron < 1440000509 680303 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad-dum-tssh < 1440000531 685057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan didn't swat me for some reason < 1440000543 302380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440000566 997117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because of my headache < 1440000997 962043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1440001049 247541 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1440001100 827822 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1440001230 601377 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1440001852 50254 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone. < 1440001863 923059 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm trying to build this project, and ld is complaining, and I don't know why. < 1440001867 59391 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the deets: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8843222 < 1440001891 620805 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ld says: "/home/tswett/sandwichos/src/kernel.rs:42: undefined reference to `heap'" < 1440001913 520899 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "heap" is right there in build/multiboot.o, isn't it? Can't ld see that? < 1440002048 96125 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1440002284 40537 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 39.0.3/20150806001005] < 1440002630 254051 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440002779 102786 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qwpbqrfipulbcygv QUIT :Quit: zz < 1440003880 713070 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ixlsfqlkzqmbyvoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1440004258 83341 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ld not actually look for _heap < 1440004262 555083 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1440004370 764761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: bind == LOCAL for the symbol 'heap' in multiboot.o. < 1440004398 174588 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll do it. < 1440004406 626575 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1440004410 617948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure if that's the same concept as visibility, though; haven't used readelf much.) < 1440004453 473919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, there's "vis: DEFAULT" too. Maybe it doesn't mean what I thought it meant. < 1440004528 164230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I guess a symbol needs to be both STB_GLOBAL and STV_DEFAULT in order to be visible. < 1440004533 288898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440006079 935556 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.4.235.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440006111 285870 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1440006183 513459 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440006934 568796 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-210-253.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1440006986 970298 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-210-253.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440006989 176606 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-210-253.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1440007925 546181 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440008891 613913 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440008892 488611 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1440008961 403343 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here enjoy reading shitty first-time attempts at a proof? :D < 1440009003 741811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a proof proof, in other words? < 1440009062 952816 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a proof-reading proof? proof proof. it's starting to lose its meaning < 1440009096 708353 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the sound a really large inflated floppy baloon makes when you release it < 1440009099 103079 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooooof < 1440009232 426743 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah what do you mean by proof proof exactly? :P < 1440009601 404342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galley_proof hth < 1440010661 525968 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck what do i know i have no education or knowledge in this. for all i know it might not even be called an attempt < 1440010765 510172 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440010818 735719 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way i just tried to prove that the only type of quines in resplicate are made of 2's size four or greater < 1440010838 535675 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-230.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440010838 590173 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-230.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1440010838 590235 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440010955 865698 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1440011023 245943 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440011161 573264 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440011383 90219 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440011413 476331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440011416 473738 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1440011456 275363 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440012087 650356 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440012770 974819 :mauris_!~mauris@2601:58a:100:1dbb:7094:11c0:accf:cd17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440012932 19808 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1440013786 984029 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1440013864 27985 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1440014443 235583 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440014616 182005 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440014634 586717 :mauris__!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440014777 931543 :mauris_!~mauris@2601:58a:100:1dbb:7094:11c0:accf:cd17 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440014907 366690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1440017020 531966 :dom111!56afa44f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.175.164.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1440018298 296346 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440018309 218389 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the optimal compression algorithm for Whitespace programs? < 1440018368 849548 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printing them out is optimal, but I haven't figured out how to undo it. < 1440018500 694101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you can do better than printing them out. < 1440018548 968689 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1440018555 668515 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do I create a file of negative size? < 1440018931 366312 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1440019704 947354 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440020758 939532 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1440021300 629992 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1440021602 602463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1440021954 564097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What filesystem supports files with negative sizes? < 1440021982 58127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1440022055 529189 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf suggested that printing them out is not the most effective way to compress Whitespace programs. < 1440022079 374278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_not_ printing them out would seem even more efficient hth < 1440022089 60145 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1440022113 36336 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How is that a form of compression, though? < 1440022120 593467 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compress: Whitespaceprogram -> {0} < 1440022132 859822 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, how to do better than that? < 1440022138 294891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: it compresses to 0 bytes hth < 1440022142 553966 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed! < 1440022352 720895 :dorei!~n_i_l@ppp141255043161.access.hol.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1440022612 961371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm curious internet failure < 1440022636 926082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says i have no internet connection. my browser agrees, but not putty. < 1440022669 51543 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It looks like your connection is down from here as well. < 1440022715 82950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoooooky < 1440022729 468804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how would you know?) < 1440022804 71094 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I would expect to see messages from you if your connection was good. < 1440022816 818662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1440022820 486569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440023438 720598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i have several already open tabs < 1440023700 89604 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440023803 913918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell stalem either way i just tried to prove that the only type of quines in resplicate are made of 2's size four or greater <-- i find that unlikely, the language is turing-complete. < 1440023804 6727 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1440024186 450227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this had to happen just after midnight, there might not even be anyone noticing it < 1440024230 918750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's paid to, that is < 1440024532 879129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440024547 520527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilhey < 1440024681 216466 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellérjan < 1440024963 251303 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodevenign < 1440025225 204939 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A file could be of negative actual size on a compressed file system if its existence causes the compression efficiency to icrease < 1440025248 853168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1440025266 457909 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how possible that is though < 1440025279 466731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440025291 568088 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hais523 < 1440025312 501252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oren < 1440025780 336225 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea for a stream cipher: compress the input and a predetermined other data using the same dictionary-based compression. Then decompress the input using the dictionary of the predetermined data. < 1440025802 298990 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other side does the reverse < 1440025871 94606 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't a very good cipher.... < 1440025921 995318 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only screws up the data when it is compressible < 1440025930 654812 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Converting Whitespace programs to PNGs actually compresses them better than xz. < 1440025934 840409 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not gzip or bzip2, though. < 1440025955 813724 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a naive run length encoding < 1440025969 283177 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: It wouldn't be all that great, I don't think. < 1440026010 511293 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try RLE compounded by gzip,xz, etc. < 1440026051 897193 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. replace 10 spaces by '10s' replace 2 tabs by '2t' < 1440026148 940016 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Yes, alternation happens way too frequently for it to be useful. < 1440026171 756084 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about something like 3st < 1440026316 768072 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm actually, what about first converting to binary with space with 1 and tab with 0 < 1440026317 289215 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440026573 101281 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-012-181.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440026604 127299 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440026656 770421 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Did you mean ternary? < 1440026662 806671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: helloren. I think you found the Elusive Porthello of Ais523. thanks. < 1440026662 919738 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1440026663 721095 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translating " \t\n" to "012" on my biggest Whitespace program results in a ternary number of 1749 bits, which rounds to 219 bytes, which is indeed better than gzip or bzip2. < 1440026664 247887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: my advice would be to take the individual Whitespace commands (rather than space/tab/newline) and form a Huffman dictionary out of them < 1440026665 480242 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1440027663 610021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scandinavian tech support: http://i.imgur.com/i9ZBC.jpg < 1440027674 853829 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe this is Swedish. olsner?) < 1440027686 474922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks Swedish to me. < 1440027722 719276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andreas Hedlund has gone through (as in, thought of/tested) all possible ("thinkable") software problems. < 1440027864 787174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now he's deduced it's a hardware issue, to paraphrase a bit. I don't think "Modermodemet" is anything at all. But apparently it's the heart of the hard disk, and it's not working. < 1440027903 979085 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mivrocontroller maybe? < 1440027909 805827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that. < 1440027914 486591 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Modem's Mother? < 1440027915 665822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's, like, "mothermodem". < 1440027930 476346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moderkort(et) would be a valid term for a motherboard. < 1440027944 563384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if it's applicable to the controller board of a disk drive in Swedish, maybe. < 1440027957 358869 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmsyk... < 1440028040 58201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a hard disk anywhere in the photo, anyway.