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00:10:19 <Sgeo> tswett, https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/ee7ce70ad91cad0d11bd
00:11:37 <tswett> (But you're violating my bracket indentation rule! Which nobody but me follows, as far as I know.)
00:12:32 <tswett> Namely: a line containing an opening bracket should have the same indentation level as the line containing the corresponding closing bracket.
00:13:13 <Sgeo> where clauses make all indentation stuff so confusing to me
00:13:46 <tswett> I'd move the opening bracket after a where clause onto a separate line.
00:13:49 <tswett> Just my own personal whim.
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01:43:36 <shachaf> oerjan: what do you think of lenses + subtyping
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02:16:42 <oren> I've now added the first 160 characters of latin extended additional
02:18:14 <oren> http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm
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02:21:53 <mauris> oren: i forget, are you actually from .be
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02:27:33 <mauris> <shachaf> So you have (B -> A, B -> A -> A) <shachaf> this is a familiar structure hth <-- does it have a name?
02:29:01 * oerjan notes that freefall's archive is a bit out of maintenance
02:31:12 <oerjan> oren is from the great belgium of canada
02:31:58 <mauris> wow cruel, at least give me a hint ;-;
02:32:29 <mauris> i'm fully prepared for it to be something extremely obvious
02:32:31 <oerjan> hint: it is still visible in my irc window
02:33:27 <oerjan> it's the old pre-functorize-everything representation
03:00:56 <shachaf> oerjan: what do you think of optics as natural isomorphisms twh
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03:32:27 <oren> also I now cover all of Latin Extended Additional
03:32:58 <hppavilion[1]> oren: How are you making the font? What program are you using?
03:33:51 <oren> fontstruct.com
03:34:57 <oren> http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/630397
03:35:32 <oren> now up to 2535 characyters, holy crap
03:38:32 <oren> I'm ranked 19th on the site by number of charatcers
03:39:39 <coppro> oren: what's the license?
03:40:44 <coppro> my thesis got approved \o/
03:45:40 <oren> who aproves theses?
03:49:20 <oren> well, I guess professors do?
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04:10:30 <zzo38> Whatever ideas I have had about programming language to make rules and cards of Magic: the Gathering and possibly other card games, what is your opinion of these things and other idea about how it would work your ideas?
04:27:13 <coppro> oren: a reading committee of three professors, two of whom don't understand the thesis and one of whom is biased
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04:31:17 <coppro> right, and there's ideographs
04:31:33 <coppro> so unicode basically requires at least two sizes (and indeed, many "monospace" fonts are)
04:34:04 <hppavilion[1]> I'll probably develop a kewl monospace programming typeface later on
04:34:15 <oren> yah, I don't have any double width characters yet. but eventually I will
04:36:31 <hppavilion[1]> Why is my goal in life to beat someone I've never met at font character numbers?
04:36:44 <oren> awesome stuff?
04:37:47 <oren> anyway, it didn't take me that much actual time to do this, i basically only work on it a few hours every month or so
04:38:23 <oren> like I don't remember doing anyhting with it last week
04:38:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * 8086 * New user account
04:39:27 <izabera> did you ever crash bash? http://www.crashbash.co.nz/crash-bash-2015/
04:41:47 <oren> ah homework. I am so gald to be out of school and thus KNOW when I am supposed to be working and not
04:42:37 <oren> Alg II? is that algorithms or algebra
04:47:24 <oren> Welcome to Algae II. In this course, a continuation of Algae I, we'll move from the basic biology of algae to the modern algae industry, including modern algae farming
04:47:43 <hppavilion[1]> Of course, between Algae II and Algae I, there was Dogs
04:49:43 <hppavilion[1]> Because for some reason Geometry is interspersed between Algebra I and II
04:50:21 <oren> I see... that's weird. I had Algebra I and II right in a row
04:50:57 <hppavilion[1]> At least under the McDougal Littell textbooks, we take Geometry between Algebras I and II
04:51:00 <oren> Algebra II wasn't required for Comp sci but I took it anyway
04:51:32 <hppavilion[1]> Middle eastern... Arabic! It's arabic! Not Greek/Latin/etc.
04:52:30 <oren> something like that
04:54:59 <oren> the only arabic plural I know is mujahidin
04:55:25 <oren> from some news site or somthing
04:55:58 <oren> it means "jihad fighter"
04:57:42 <hppavilion[1]> To lure me into a trap where you get to explain stuff to me
05:00:09 <oren> i forgot the s
05:01:01 <oren> it is the way I write an s
05:02:24 <zzo38> I would want, to make a few new kind of signals for use with Linux, such as: SIGMEM (ignored by default), SIGOOM (terminate by default), SIGCONF (restart by default), SIGRESET (restart by default).
05:02:42 <zzo38> You can then use SIGMEM and SIGOOM for purpose with OOM-killer
05:05:08 <oren> I may at some point make a version with a curvier s
05:06:32 <oerjan> algebra may be originally arabic, but the -a at the end is certainly latin.
05:07:34 <oren> so algebrae then
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05:12:32 <zzo38> (Maybe SIGOOM should terminate with a core dump by default)
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05:33:22 <coppro> you can't assume memory to process a core dump
05:42:43 <zzo38> If a core dump is impossible it does not produce a core dump; the man page says that is always the case regardless of reason
05:56:54 <myname> oren: the mathematical z looks weird to me
05:57:40 <myname> what the hell is it supposed to look like?
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06:24:30 <izabera> i just tested oren's bfim.c with tcc -run
06:24:43 <izabera> it takes 2 minutes to run Mandelbrot.b
06:26:59 <izabera> the cutoff in rdebath's tests is 80s
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09:37:52 <fizzie> izabera: 21.7 seconds on my system when compiled with GCC.
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11:45:54 <b_jonas> oren: I'm looking at http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm from another machine with another browser, and it's still subpixel antialiased, as if it's shifted horizontally by a partial pixel.
11:46:01 <b_jonas> Let me try to work that around.
11:49:21 <b_jonas> Temporarily disabling subpixel aliasing globally has "fixed" it.
11:49:48 <izabera> pick a regular die with 6 faces, 4 are green and 2 are blue
11:50:30 <izabera> without doing any specific calculation, tell me which of these sequences is more likely to appear:
11:50:51 <izabera> 1. BGBBB 2. GBGBBB 3. GBBBBB
11:52:29 <b_jonas> oren: also, it seems as if you've added some characters to the font or the demo
11:53:09 <Walpurgisnacht> But its added colour to bgbbb gives it a statistically higher chance to roll in that sequence among the 20 rolls
11:53:44 <izabera> it requires G to appear right before 1
11:53:58 <Walpurgisnacht> Actually I could paint a d6 to that colour scheme and see what happens
11:54:34 <b_jonas> oren: ah, I see you've redrawn the l-caron and d-caron
11:56:50 <b_jonas> oren: \x{174} seems to have the wrong accent
11:57:40 <b_jonas> oren: oh, I see you've added the Welsh letters
11:58:53 <b_jonas> oren: the new lowercase eth seems better, thanks
12:01:42 <b_jonas> oren: also, I see you've added the vietnamese characters in the \x{1e00} block (such as o with hook) too
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12:14:12 <b_jonas> oren: I see you've changed the k-commabelow, l-commabelow, n-commabelow, and the lowercase g-commaabove. But the capital G-commabelow looks odd, because it's not tall enough.
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12:18:37 <b_jonas> it looks like you fixed the y-circumflex and the z-caron
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12:29:41 <b_jonas> oren: I think the Euro sign looks strange and doesn't really match the rest of your font.
12:34:21 <oren> The euro does need work now I look at it\
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12:35:11 <oren> I also reduced the space between the to lines of the =, I agree it looks better
12:36:15 <oren> specifically it restores the spaceship operator <=> to look correctly
12:36:58 <oren> Also I added a ton of math
12:40:27 <HackEgo> [U+2247 NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO]
12:41:10 <HackEgo> [U+2268 LESS-THAN BUT NOT EQUAL TO] [U+2269 GREATER-THAN BUT NOT EQUAL TO]
12:41:32 <HackEgo> [U+2278 NEITHER LESS-THAN NOR GREATER-THAN] [U+2279 NEITHER GREATER-THAN NOR LESS-THAN]
12:43:35 <myname> in case = is too lame?
12:44:00 <oren> `unidecode ≝≞≟
12:44:00 <HackEgo> [U+225D EQUAL TO BY DEFINITION] [U+225E MEASURED BY] [U+225F QUESTIONED EQUAL TO]
12:44:52 <oren> myname: of course. can't something have an order but no equivalency?
12:46:05 <oren> hmm but in that case we need a NEITHER LESS THAN NOR EQUAL TO NOR GREATER THAN
12:46:37 <oren> an example being NaN and 1 in floating point
12:46:58 <myname> i thought of {a} and {b}
12:47:21 <myname> and lower/greater being subset/superset
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12:48:30 <oren> ah. I thought it was "APPROXIMATELY EQUIVALENT TO"
12:49:31 <b_jonas> "specifically it restores the spaceship operator <=> to look correctly" -- ah, I remember when people discussed if some new arrow-like operator was supposed to be spelled ~> or something else, and they talked about how it can be hard to type, and that it looks ugly in fonts where the ascii tilde is high up
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12:50:46 <myname> could have been a python discussion
12:51:16 <b_jonas> oren: yes, in fact we need twelve variants of them: the equals sign can be a double horizontal line, a single horizontal line, or a single slanted line; the less-than sign can be above or below; and the cross can be vertical or diagonal
12:51:35 <b_jonas> oren: but you need the double tilde and single tilde operators first
12:51:54 <oren> I've got all those
12:52:09 <oren> er, all the tilde ones
12:52:30 <b_jonas> ah, I see you have added the \x{2302} to the demo, it was just well hdiden
12:52:34 <oren> I havent gotten past ⊵ in the math block
12:53:00 <b_jonas> on indeed, you have the doule tilde
12:53:24 <b_jonas> and I see you have two variants of the less-equal (aren't there three?)
12:54:03 <b_jonas> whoa, there's a quadruple equals sign too?
12:54:23 <oren> I wtill have many characters to go in the math
12:54:31 <myname> to make equality absolutely clear?
12:54:55 <HackEgo> [U+2263 STRICTLY EQUIVALENT TO]
12:55:07 <b_jonas> oren: I don't care much about the math symbols really, I've added only a couple of common ones, because I don't want to view math symbols in a monospaced font anyway
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12:55:18 <b_jonas> I'm planning to eventually add some APL symbols though
12:55:27 <b_jonas> because _those_ are useful in monospaced
12:55:39 <oren> those are in the misc. technical block
12:55:49 <myname> well, being as complete as possible is a nice feature for a font
12:56:11 <b_jonas> oren: APL symbols are spreaded among all blocks, because they overlap with other symbols, including ascii ones really.
12:56:34 <oren> Well yeah, I mean the ones specific to apl are there
12:57:15 <b_jonas> I don't care much about the unicode blocks. I care about covering uses, and covering certain legacy 8-bit encodings because they often match usage better than unicode blocks.
12:57:37 <HackEgo> U+222B INTEGRAL \ UTF-8: e2 88 ab UTF-16BE: 222b Decimal: ∫ \ ∫ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ \ U+222C DOUBLE INTEGRAL \ UTF-8: e2 88 ac UTF-16BE: 222c Decimal: ∬ \ ∬ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ Decomposition: <compat>
12:57:56 <b_jonas> so I'll add some APL symbols by going through the large apl symbol palette, and add all that I care about, regardless of which block they're encoded in in unicode
12:58:37 <oren> I did that at first when I was adding the DF charatcers
12:59:10 <myname> your font is df complete?
12:59:31 <b_jonas> doesn't df use only cp437?
12:59:55 <b_jonas> I don't know, I don't follow all the crazy non-ascii roguelike graphics.
13:00:23 <myname> oren: do you plan on providing an aur package for your fontm
13:00:24 <oren> yeah it only uses cp437
13:01:56 <oren> possibly. although I find it easier to install fonts by cp font.ttf /usr/shar/fonts/; fc-cache -r
13:02:01 <b_jonas> oren: by the way, what's the license terms for that font?
13:02:12 <b_jonas> later when it gets stable, can I redistribute it if I want?
13:03:03 <oren> CC share alike attributin
13:03:19 <oren> http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/630397
13:03:20 <b_jonas> hmm... not very practical for a font, but ok
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13:03:54 <oren> I plan to eventually put my by: as a charatcer in the font
13:04:24 <b_jonas> (I should try to convert it to an x11 bitmap font.)
13:05:20 <oren> also tags: H4xx0r
13:05:36 <b_jonas> oren: perhaps make the demo page link to that page
13:06:29 <b_jonas> I mean, maybe the redistribution terms are there inside the font file, but I don't want to have to dive that to determine the terms.
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13:07:53 <oren> I meant that the words "by oren" would appear as a charatcer, thus fulfilling the license terms
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13:08:14 <oren> in fact I'll do that now
13:09:05 <b_jonas> oren: sure, it's best to do all of that
13:10:03 <izabera> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Zimbabwe_%24100_trillion_2009_Obverse.jpg
13:10:10 <oren> There. now the nonexistent capital ending sigma has by oren in it
13:10:11 <izabera> this thing is worth .47 USD
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13:12:34 <oren> My dad has a lot of obsolete European money from before the EU
13:13:43 <izabera> me too but i'm not sure if that really counts since i live in europe
13:14:46 <izabera> our banks allowed you to convert them to euros until 2010
13:15:18 <oren> hm... that's a long time
13:15:20 <myname> we still can do it today in germany
13:16:26 <myname> there is no reason not to, is it?
13:16:47 <oren> well what do they do with the money they take?
13:17:14 <b_jonas> oren: give you euro for it. same as back in the ages.
13:17:37 <b_jonas> they have to accept it for a long time, to inspire confidence that the money you have now won't suddenly turn worthless
13:18:01 <oren> yeah I can see that.
13:18:57 <b_jonas> in this sense, it's not like changing to the euro is really different from how the actual banknotes are always replaced gradually (with a half-life between two years and five years, more for non-paper banknotes like the romanian lei, much more for coins) while the non-physical currency remains the same stable thing.
13:20:34 <oren> my dad also has a lot of old couns with silver in them, sucht haht the silver is worth much more than the coin says it is
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13:21:43 <b_jonas> or how the banks have to change banknotes and coins from one denomination to another, conveniently and cheaply, because if I couldn't change my 20000 HUF banknotes to 10 pieces of 2000 HUF notes any time, then I'll no longer believe that those banknotes are actually worth 20000 HUF, and will refuse to draw much money from ATMs in 20000 HUF notes.
13:22:39 <b_jonas> (I can change them now, which is good.)
13:22:55 <oren> ah, you're in switzerland, right
13:23:12 <b_jonas> I eat swiss chocolate sometimes, but I'm not there
13:23:46 <oren> Hungary isn't in the EU yet?
13:23:56 <b_jonas> but not in the part that uses euro
13:24:01 <b_jonas> half of the countries don't use euro yet
13:24:08 <oren> I thought the EU had gotten all the way to Russia's border?
13:24:19 <b_jonas> UK, Sweden, Hungary, and some others don't use EUR yet
13:24:25 <b_jonas> even if they are in the EU
13:24:37 <Taneb> I think UK and Sweden have an explicit opt-out so they never need to switch
13:25:14 <b_jonas> it's complicated, different parts of the EU stuff involve different sets of countries
13:25:23 <oren> hmm is Ukraine in the EU or is it just tring
13:25:32 <Taneb> Ukraine is not in the EU
13:25:33 <oren> I guess it isn;t
13:25:40 <Taneb> And probably won't be for some time
13:25:54 <oren> so you haven't quite yet surrounded Russia
13:25:58 <b_jonas> Taneb: yes, they basically say they don't want to switch, but it's hard to predict anything, it's quite possible that Hungary will never switch either, even if they intend to switch now
13:26:51 <oren> Well of three sides
13:27:12 <oren> the Baltics, Poland and Ukraine
13:27:33 <oren> surround part of russia
13:27:45 <myname> yeah, russians have nowhere to flee now
13:29:35 <oren> actually hold on isn't there a part of East Germany that the Russians still have or something?
13:30:01 <oren> yeah between poland and lithuania
13:30:32 <oren> I remeber seeing an old map from before WWI where that was part of Germany
13:31:16 <Taneb> Yes, it was formerly in East Prussia, which was part of the German Empire
13:31:21 <oren> Yeah, it was in my 1898 atlas
13:32:36 <oren> Citizen's Atlas of the World
13:33:38 <oren> #only_1890_s_kids
13:37:35 <oren> Anyway that part is now surrounded by the EU
13:45:50 <oren> wow Austria-Hungary was Huuuuge
13:47:29 <oren> Seriously this map is like asking for shit to happen. There's no fucking countries between Austria-Hungary, Germany, and Russia.
13:47:50 <oren> what wer ethey thinking?!?!
13:50:06 <Taneb> It was a balance of power, of sorts
13:50:15 <Taneb> Until some people in Serbia tipped the balance
13:50:26 <Taneb> Causing everything to go horribly wrong
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13:58:44 <oren> Hmm, this picture is a little blurry
13:58:46 <oren> http://www.orenwatson.be/oldmapeurope.jpg
13:59:01 <oren> Stupid phone camera
13:59:40 <oren> there are as you can see a ton of countries missing
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14:36:46 <FreeFull> Italy looks pretty much unchanged
14:37:08 <FreeFull> I wish the picture was clear enough to read the text
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17:13:36 <Taneb> Hmm. Only 42 seconds on my end
17:14:06 <coppro> my ISP has a web chat service
17:14:16 <coppro> and the GET value for UTF-8 is "✓"
17:14:24 <coppro> I'm not sure whether to be amazed or horrified
17:14:59 <Taneb> What is the GET value for ASCII?
17:22:54 <shachaf> > fromIntegral (ord '✓') :: Word8
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20:44:20 <fizzie> I saw ✓ somewhere recently too.
20:44:35 <fizzie> I think in the form of "utf8=✓" URL parameter, or something similar.
20:45:49 <fizzie> I think it might've been at work.
20:45:57 <fizzie> But maybe it was just some website.
20:46:05 <ashl> github does that
20:46:19 <fizzie> Oh, that sounds plausible.
20:46:28 <ashl> https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=foo
20:46:47 <ashl> i saw another one do it too... it's probably some noddy ruby library
20:47:02 <fizzie> I did search for something on github.com recently, so it was probably that.
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21:35:11 <HackEgo> Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html
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21:36:09 <shachaf> `` sed -i 's#http.*#http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript#' wisdom/olist
21:36:44 <HackEgo> Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript
21:37:06 <olsner> so the o stands for oots?
21:37:32 <shachaf> olsner: it stands for order of the stick hth
21:38:30 <olsner> very good, that's what I meant by oots
21:40:09 <shachaf> if it isn't our favorite rhyming swede
21:40:47 <olsner> indeed it isn't, I don't rhyme
21:41:12 <HackEgo> 1137) <shachaf> A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric."
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21:44:42 <shachaf> oerjan: that limerick is so good
21:44:50 <shachaf> now i don't want to write other limericks because they won't be as good
21:45:37 <olsner> otoh, if you don't write limericks you're guaranteed not to produce anything better
21:46:23 <oerjan> self-fulfilling prophecies are so self-defeating
21:46:46 <shachaf> i'm concerned with my average limerick quality hth
21:47:20 <olsner> one way out is to write lots of them, but hide the ones that aren't good enough
21:48:28 <oerjan> the evil enterprise method
21:48:55 <olsner> shachaf the evil enterprising limerick master
21:49:07 <shachaf> the best thing about it is that i wrote it in a hurry
21:49:09 <b_jonas> oren: \x{174} has the wrong accent in the font (just so it doesn't scroll out)
21:49:36 <shachaf> i was in a competition with Taneb to quickly write a limerick about olsner not being able to quickly write limericks
21:49:56 <shachaf> ok, that's not the best thing
21:50:00 <olsner> the ꙮs is what really brings it home, I think
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21:52:33 <olsner> fungot: do you limerick?
21:52:33 <fungot> olsner: but why is that a robot of your country." expr; not
21:53:44 <shachaf> oerjan: when is olist #1000 coming out twh
21:53:53 <shachaf> and how are they going to wrap up the whole story in one comic
21:54:21 <olsner> maybe they'll use several comics
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22:00:00 <fizzie> fungot: What sort of robots does your country have?
22:00:00 <fungot> fizzie: it being a fun language for programming is this true in scheme? look up could be a set
22:02:32 <boily> fizziello. fungellot.
22:08:41 <fizzie> fungot has a black belt in tong-fu.
22:08:41 <fungot> fizzie: but if you put your ifs before your assertions? worse? the question and answer format is nice here but is a persistent program. it requires binary i/ o
22:11:50 <shachaf> oerjan: do you live in trondheim or trondhjem twh
22:13:03 <fizzie> boily: It's an ancient art of fighting with a pair of tongs.
22:13:13 <oerjan> shachaf: trondheim, but don't tell any people from here over 80 or so hth
22:13:43 <olsner> are there people here over 80??
22:13:55 <lambdabot> CYUL 242200Z 22013KT 15SM FEW040 BKN055 BKN085 BKN150 24/18 A2979 RMK CU1SC5AC2AC1 CU TR AC TR SLP087 DENSITY ALT 1300FT
22:14:28 <oerjan> <olsner> maybe they'll use several comics <-- how can they use several comics when there's only #1000 left that's crazy talk
22:14:37 <fizzie> Saturday the daily high was 28; today it was 17.
22:14:48 <olsner> trivial: #1000 part 1, #1000 part 2, etc
22:15:00 <shachaf> oerjan: Sometimes they have several comic pages with a single number.
22:15:05 <olsner> or #999 part n and then #1000
22:15:08 <shachaf> Maybe the next thousand will arrive all at once.
22:15:24 <oerjan> olsner: people in trondheim hth
22:15:25 <olsner> maybe it will be one really really large comic
22:15:56 <boily> not sure if it's humanly feasible to inhale a thousand comics at once.
22:16:01 <b_jonas> Nah, you only really need one strip, but with 12 panels
22:16:12 <lambdabot> ENVA 242150Z 12007KT CAVOK 18/09 Q1014 RMK WIND 670FT 13013KT
22:16:21 <shachaf> I wish olist was over already because I want to buy _The Complete Order of the Stick_.
22:16:35 <olsner> maybe a thousand really small comics would be inhalable
22:16:53 <oerjan> olsner: impossible, think of the paper cuts
22:17:18 <boily> death by a thousand nasal comics.
22:17:24 <olsner> but not impossible, just inadvisable
22:17:59 <oerjan> boily: i realized the horror but too late, i'd already pressed return
22:19:05 <b_jonas> It's not complicated really. First panel: Belkar dies. Next four panels: Elan does something about his father and gets his happy ending. Last seven panels: the OoTS saves the world, Roy kills Xykon thus fulfilling his blood oath. Easy enough.
22:19:33 <b_jonas> Maybe the last one has to be six panels so that there's a black "THE END" panel at the end.
22:20:24 <shachaf> b_jonas: wait a minute, you're not even on olist
22:20:57 <b_jonas> Aren't you talking about Order of the Stick?
22:21:07 <HackEgo> Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript
22:22:15 <olsner> do you have to be on olist to participate in the tangential discussions?
22:23:01 <olsner> ah, sorry, I retract all my previous statements about oots
22:23:53 <b_jonas> I mean, think about it, multiple comic authors have managed to complete their comics at a nice round number of strips, wrapping up the story in a clear way. Such comics include One over zero, StickManStickMan, Casey and Andy.
22:24:05 <shachaf> b_jonas: i feel like there are a few loose ends left there tdnh
22:24:20 <b_jonas> Rich is clearly a very talented and dedicated comic author, so clearly he can do that too.
22:24:24 <olsner> maybe it's not going to 1000 but 1024
22:28:26 <b_jonas> Mind you, there's also some webcomics that are completed but not with a round number of strips: Ozy and Millie (2248 strips), Irregular Webcomics (3198 strips).
22:31:11 <HackEgo> order of the stick? ¯\(°_o)/¯
22:31:14 <HackEgo> the order of the stick? ¯\(°_o)/¯
22:32:50 <b_jonas> Question. Why does this query match so many cards: http://magiccards.info/query?q=the&v=card&s=cname
22:33:08 <shachaf> Maybe the last oots comic strip will be 9999
22:33:39 <shachaf> b_jonas: There are a lot of cards with "the" in their name?
22:34:00 <shachaf> It's not even limited to English.
22:34:11 <olsner> boily: order of the mapole
22:36:47 <HackEgo> A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg.
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22:40:44 <boily> this isn't Hungarian.
22:41:48 <olsner> kol is carbon, or COPD
22:41:49 <HackEgo> A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole.
22:42:12 <olsner> kål is pronounced the same and means cabbage
22:42:13 <b_jonas> no, kol is Kingdom of Loathing or something like that
22:42:44 <boily> no, it's a two-sided drum.
22:46:14 <mauris_> olsner: in dutch they are even both "kool"!
22:46:31 <oren> I'm home from work!
22:48:07 <oren> and i have my new Lenovo Thinkpad!
22:50:05 <oren> Fucking hell this thing is awesome
22:52:36 <boily> did you penguinify it already?
22:52:43 <oren> and, just as ordered, it has Windows 7
22:52:56 <oren> not fucking windows 8
22:56:04 <oren> boily: no, I'm tying this on my 9 year old laptop while setting up the new one
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22:56:44 <fizzie> What number of a Thinkpad is it?
23:01:35 <fizzie> I got one of those things with a relatively high-DPI screen (14" 2560x1440) for a work laptop, because I thought it would be nice, but turns out it's kind of annoying to use it with an external monitor, because e.g. terminal windows suitable for one screen get far too small/large on the other.
23:03:05 <oren> I have it with a normal dpi screen
23:03:31 <oren> seems to have a better viewing angle than my old one though
23:03:59 <hppavilion[1]> oren: Windows 10 is OK if you disable all the evil tracking bullshit
23:04:15 <hppavilion[1]> But yes, windows 8 was the most evil thing ever made
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23:10:38 <oren> so now I'm simulatanously using two laptops manufactured 9 years apart
23:13:06 <oren> hmm lets see what my website looks like in IE
23:15:25 <oren> looks like total shit
23:15:49 <oren> IE doesn;t support css web font
23:17:24 <fizzie> It does support it somewhat.
23:18:10 <fizzie> I think I got Embedded OpenType (.eot) to work.
23:18:28 <fizzie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_OpenType
23:19:18 <fizzie> That's the only supported format for IE 8, as per https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms530757(v=vs.85).aspx -- IE 9 extends it to WOFF and raw TrueType.
23:20:23 <oren> ok well first step, install firefox. then I'll install windows defender and uninstall stupid mcafee
23:21:54 <oren> er, MSE that is
23:22:44 <hppavilion[1]> I want to make a language that looks just like CSS, but is _actually_ a programming language
23:23:45 <oren> hmm, you mean like spread the information of the program into two different files in two different syntaces?
23:26:16 <hppavilion[1]> I was thinking it'd be /(decla|impe)rative/i hybrid
23:26:28 <oren> mcafee is complaining abaut me uninstalling it. well fuck you you cpu-draining crap
23:27:44 <oren> don't you mean print:"Hello, World!";
23:28:26 <hppavilion[1]> I want its /syntax/ to be *exactly* identicle to real CSS, or at least pretty close
23:29:31 <oren> so you want to limit nesting depth to one {}.
23:30:26 <oren> I guess loops could be like loop: a, f; where f refers to another definition
23:30:40 <oren> and a is an array
23:30:54 <oerjan> b_jonas: erm you're aware that Irregular Webcomic! has restarted? hth
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23:40:57 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas erm are you aware that Irregular Webcomic! has restarted? hth
23:46:05 <fizzie> oerjan: Basic Instructions just ended with 1181 strips. Although that's counting reruns as double -- that's just the number of lines in the "archive" list.
23:46:29 <fizzie> (1051 after a grep -iv rerun.)
23:46:35 <hppavilion[1]> It looks like we can do array like things with E[foo~="bar" "baz" "etc"]
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23:47:49 <fizzie> 8-Bit Theater ended with "Episode 1224".
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23:52:36 <oren> Now I've set the theme to windows classic and all the fonts to Arial 10
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