< 1440461225 147719 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what'd be interesting? < 1440461229 894267 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML-based CSS < 1440461234 426197 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And CSS-like Markup < 1440461294 959310 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll save that for later < 1440461307 992351 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because right /now/ I need to design CLS < 1440461356 643469 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :installing touhou 14 < 1440461368 921783 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a few other games < 1440461505 188926 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440461527 174380 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they were to add a fourth langauge to the browser-based Web Design Trio, what do you think it'd do> < 1440461532 169093 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/>/? < 1440461706 535936 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1440461744 168626 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, rdococ! < 1440462030 89164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440462146 294254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440462455 786765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell izabera 1. BGBBB 2. GBGBBB 3. GBBBBB <-- well obviously _not_ 2. my hunch is 1 but i don't see how to conclusively prove it without calculation. < 1440462455 878784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1440462474 144631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BOBBY < 1440462497 420195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mrbillsadventureland.com/reviews/m-n/neverhoodR/BOBBY.jpg < 1440462563 587264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm sorry but neither orange nor yellow was included hth < 1440462598 181941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1440462605 475838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i can't tell whether you played the neverhood or what < 1440462616 187687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't hth < 1440462665 140577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well there's a puzzle where the correct answer is a sequence of five colors < 1440462684 102970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it says BOBBY on the machine < 1440462685 627944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1440462688 318540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are not all five colors hth < 1440462853 107715 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :black orange black black yellow < 1440462888 804891 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a mana cost? < 1440463453 776089 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1440463455 959659 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My < 1440463456 924043 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God < 1440463467 993165 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS4 added something evil < 1440463473 207961 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :text-decoration: blink; < 1440463749 872054 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1440463760 791987 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1440463773 616261 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is shown on my Ansi codes page < 1440463798 636585 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ansi.htm < 1440463820 493507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb I think UK and Sweden have an explicit opt-out so they never need to switch <-- denmark, not sweden, although sweden is using tricks to avoid it. < 1440463820 547868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1440463844 171294 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can canada join the eu? < 1440463853 852069 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :our currency is in the shit < 1440463865 526253 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440463924 641242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the eu wanted to accept them... < 1440463936 371216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but right now, that seems unlikely. < 1440463994 588719 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo hoo < 1440464001 971238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're still keeping that nominal "european" requirement. < 1440464023 269417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe canada can join the uk < 1440464032 530309 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: GOOD IDEA! < 1440464056 961475 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1440464064 380089 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1440464082 308421 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, and Big Scotland < 1440464097 993735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS4 did not add text-decoration: blink;. That exists in CSS1 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS1/#text-decoration CSS2.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/text.html#propdef-text-decoration and CSS3 https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-decor-3/#propdef-text-decoration-line < 1440464244 178773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is any CSS level 4 module defining text-decoration, anyway. Just selectors and stuff. < 1440464245 938849 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1440464270 147319 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1440465364 477485 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < oerjan> but right now, that seems unlikely. < 1440465364 683593 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:52 < oren> boo hoo < 1440465715 774298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you cannot do in CSS is to select based on applied styles, nor can you apply sophisticated priorities. I would find these features useful. < 1440465771 369893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can neither add "text-decoration: blink" working nor prevent it from working in any general way with user CSS. < 1440465793 503036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you can do though is to make tags to blink by using CSS animations. < 1440465834 398085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also cannot easily select the parent element of something < 1440465853 565694 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440465981 395705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1440467947 92561 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440468988 563403 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440469583 798615 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1440469641 296036 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440470430 618619 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1440471237 972344 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@24.237.158.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440472999 278395 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1440474694 17784 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am no using this thru cygwin < 1440474701 941814 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/no/now/ < 1440475166 317303 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1440475212 624057 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440476065 305713 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - http://znc.in < 1440476538 755557 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. I finally figured out how to turn off all these annoying applelike gestures < 1440476574 975022 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1440476632 804805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gestures of what? < 1440476691 741724 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1440476838 961825 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the touchpad < 1440476854 964139 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like pinching to zoom and whatnot < 1440476930 577891 :ProofTechnique!~Ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1440477076 298195 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the setting in the control panel and turned everything off except stroking the right edge of the touchpad for scrolling. < 1440477191 571138 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also turned off the pointer inertia, it does nothing but screw up the respoinsiveness < 1440477581 787024 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1440478025 93925 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed something today. If you want to find out the sorted order of 3 variables there are six possible results. However if you test the order pairwise it takes 3 tests with binary results meaning you waste an average of 41% of one of the tests. So the obvious solution is to use hexanary logic, but I'm curious if there is some more general solution. < 1440478242 478654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can drop the last test in 1/3 of the cases fwiw < 1440478772 12803 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@24.237.158.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440478859 639738 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can just only sort large arrays < 1440478872 995618 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop sorting small ones dude < 1440478877 518084 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan yes you can but that requires you to mix the tests together < 1440478900 902832 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bogosort doesn't work so well on the large ones < 1440478987 146523 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1440480354 513569 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1440480508 357738 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1440481157 89163 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-195-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440481219 627148 :loldude!bb103616@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.16.54.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440481338 95153 :loldude!bb103616@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.16.54.22 QUIT :Client Quit < 1440482085 322349 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I know it's restarted, but it has still *completed*. < 1440482323 634720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1440482411 580572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think of the plan to borrow vaarsuvius's soul at a tactically critical moment < 1440482505 29105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it worked once... < 1440482525 334120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1440482532 917499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't even give me the satisfaction < 1440482535 78829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have two more options < 1440482556 338944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1440482560 938432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what satisfaction < 1440482609 605764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that moment isn't now, since e's not even present at the moot < 1440482687 173426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted you to say it's fiendish < 1440482689 479386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose a more general question is whether the 3 fiends are working together with durkon-the-vampire or not < 1440482694 277387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh < 1440482745 27812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird, before i looked at what you had written i briefly thought it would be a comment on "fiendish", and then once i read it i completely forgot < 1440482753 756047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: my memory is fiendish < 1440482845 562878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have my revenge < 1440482854 937385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will be a fine dish < 1440482858 277300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Superkamiguru 5* 10New user account < 1440482882 717281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't help that i checked for a new comic to see if it was relevant < 1440482935 176317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i just checked and i'm not sure fiendish is pronounced that way. < 1440482969 302019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your defence i thought it did < 1440482982 811116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was on defence about it myself < 1440482986 163814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07NSFW14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43908 5* 03Superkamiguru 5* (+246) 10Created page with "{{stub}} NSFW is an esoteric programming language created with Scala by Mihir Khatwani based on [http://esolangs.org/wiki/ArnoldC ArnoldC]. The source is available [https://g..." < 1440483094 963897 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43909&oldid=43902 5* 03Superkamiguru 5* (+11) 10 < 1440483150 869887 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cbtxwsgfrtutzagg QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1440483207 132967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Hörrible < 1440483227 418333 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Maxsteele2#Languages wow all of these < 1440483285 328443 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pczprmmnqdwsnebg JOIN :#esoteric < 1440483462 627963 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them are crap < 1440483498 410746 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440485365 731727 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i think you're just jealous. < 1440485643 42911 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, no < 1440486110 161794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43910&oldid=43430 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-4) 10Update the "more complex variant" to my current version. Gives visual error on all known trivial interpreter bugs, works correctly on >= 7bit and unbounded interpreters, fails on fascist interpreters. < 1440486330 216653 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how old they are < 1440486647 457572 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440487909 607823 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least there are no brainfuck equivalents < 1440488405 881125 :Trioxin2!~Trioxin@72-28-181-085-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net NICK :Trioxin < 1440489300 88468 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something < 1440489449 535372 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay my interpreter prints "Hello world!" < 1440489473 314184 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not buggy \o/ < 1440489473 632806 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1440489473 738342 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            |\ < 1440489617 58001 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://edgecats.net/ < 1440489948 584380 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reload that page) < 1440490442 12973 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Puzzlang i don't get the incrementor and the first clear cell < 1440491210 906667 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: those segments are all on a very tiny torus < 1440491245 396540 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1440491270 843141 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they actually wrap https://bpaste.net/show/d860dddaced1 < 1440491288 784679 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first X has ";; " above it etc < 1440491309 862804 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average BMI in Australia is around 27 o_O < 1440491338 484516 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :This can mean two things. Either they're all surprisingly fit < 1440491343 124626 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the opposite of that. < 1440491439 129346 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1440491488 486796 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where does it start parsing? < 1440491544 802139 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. why isn't the thee surrounding ; a ]? < 1440491556 760161 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has to be at least one x? < 1440491582 455005 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1440491682 764720 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D measuring weight in adult koalas < 1440491685 158553 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsy < 1440491759 90198 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440492030 518231 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440492130 825644 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1440493229 280813 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440493248 992799 :Trioxin!~Trioxin@72-28-181-085-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440493326 665918 :Trioxin!~Trioxin@72-28-181-085-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440493492 511518 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1440494376 442853 :Trioxin!~Trioxin@72-28-181-085-dhcp.aik.sc.atlanticbb.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1440495340 328247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the single-width floats a subset of double-width floats? < 1440495473 868657 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for their nominal values, yes. < 1440495564 670428 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so, thanks < 1440496277 251760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the various different NaNs are "officially" considered a subset. < 1440496345 892206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, if some group of double-precision NaNs are the "same" as single-precision NaNs. But maybe that's not a particularly interesting question. < 1440496438 113294 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/lang1.html http://mroman.ch/lang2.html <- does anybody see something that would be impossible in those? < 1440496438 768059 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any NaNs are the same as themselves < 1440496449 450492 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaNs seem like such a waste of space < 1440496462 558467 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many values of floating points are NaNs? < 1440496465 754165 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically the second one) < 1440496495 917812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: 2^52-1 double-precision ones. < 1440496507 861257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 2^23-1 single-precision ones. < 1440496545 21200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, add one to those; I forgot the sign bit. < 1440496546 764319 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what these types are called btw. < 1440496564 135913 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :existential types? < 1440496588 513320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's one particular value for the exponent field that's used for both infinities and NaNs. If the mantissa is 0, it's +inf or -inf depending on sign; if it's anything nonzero, it's some kind of NaN.) < 1440496714 881973 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many non-NaN values are there? < 1440496923 243263 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^32 and 2^64 < 1440496926 692613 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1440496930 1329 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That - the NaNs < 1440496946 920120 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty small percentage but still a huge amount < 1440496986 667592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, 2^64 - 2^52 is not 2^12 < 1440496993 311884 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez, I am not well < 1440497014 213222 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-254-187.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a floating point scheme with just one NaN value < 1440497040 513774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the same sort of style as IEEE < 1440497062 959635 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually < 1440497071 287570 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the mantissa only has one bit... < 1440497075 677564 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There'd be two NaNs < 1440497076 722788 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1440497103 700992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of think it makes sense to have a specific "special" exponent dedicated for infinities, and there's not an obvious use for the "other" bit patterns then. < 1440497144 336165 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There'd be two NaNs and you could only represent NaN, +-infinity, and +- powers of 2 < 1440497199 783231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Also 1.5*n^2. < 1440497244 86257 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1440497246 575830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming the usual implicit 1. < 1440497891 86546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440499555 1486 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440499762 115654 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ヘロレン! 「東方」はどうですか < 1440499924 741284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43911&oldid=43824 5* 0381.156.87.102 5* (+68) 10Added Fourier < 1440500547 708223 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PAIW < 1440500547 919927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAIW 251034Z AUTO 19020G27KT 2 1/2SM -RA BR OVC004 09/09 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 18028/1020 PNO $ < 1440500579 764553 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm < 1440501054 813639 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm? < 1440501077 479527 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhmm < 1440501095 657046 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was entering in values by hand again < 1440501118 553277 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably will get it wrong this time but it passes the time < 1440501412 791077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :values? hand? time??? < 1440501422 637001 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking about way too much abstract concepts here. < 1440501624 836347 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amplituhedron < 1440501747 209486 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I never! < 1440501753 553027 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COMMUNIST CHICKEN < 1440501764 515546 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahha < 1440501769 365375 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny < 1440502048 778928 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Fuck me < 1440503641 398340 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-195-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1440504282 296452 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1440505488 833193 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1440505526 921781 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morening? :/ < 1440506323 6771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1440506726 940130 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440507101 394968 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440507158 524698 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440507908 402971 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1440508047 709752 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1440508284 19385 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440508310 945904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Sesame oil sample.jpg10]]" < 1440508776 316083 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440508884 509835 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/sfGREzy.png two minutes of wikipedia < 1440508996 784575 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, that time again? < 1440509964 884873 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1440510948 10526 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440511235 42223 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1440511310 927239 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1440511792 490423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440513389 403852 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Tanebventions < 1440513395 250026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, robots, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1440513405 207805 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? progress < 1440513405 739118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Progress has been made today. It was invented by Taneb. < 1440513412 468171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? robots < 1440513413 215032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are deterministic finite Belgians that repeat themselves. Taneb invented them. < 1440513542 369867 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the universe < 1440513543 202082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. < 1440513557 329523 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? persistence < 1440513558 298292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented persistence long ago, and it's been around ever since. < 1440513567 840288 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I invent a lot of things < 1440514124 546359 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote binomial < 1440514126 15483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1146) I am NOT in the mood for binomial expansion < 1440514203 67769 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which mood does it take? < 1440514230 549962 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ennui < 1440514244 538724 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or mania, perhaps < 1440514260 16147 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you're not in the mood to expand (x+1)^(-1) ? < 1440514274 728311 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now < 1440515199 732059 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.valbot.com/arin.ga woo $10 < 1440515207 325362 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost rich < 1440515328 675880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see whether we can push the price by asking from different domains? < 1440515368 761775 :aretecode!~aretecode@209.58.130.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440515401 909307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: note also that the estimated monthly ad income is $20 a month - so you'd be giving it away for two weeks worth of income... < 1440515407 277377 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1440515408 785840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...something doesn't add up. < 1440515524 3886 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should ask wikipedia if their campaign is working < 1440515546 552919 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, please donate $2 each to arin.ga and this will be over in an hour < 1440515579 962465 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. "Get the official Free Valuator Appraisal Certificate for your domain valuation." < 1440515608 937755 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wikipedia < 1440515609 800984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages. < 1440515639 627572 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i run the 8766021st most visited website worldwide < 1440515649 770542 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite the accomplishment < 1440515666 284153 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1440515703 686413 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer for everyone once i get below 8 millions < 1440515734 143572 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to hold you to that < 1440515750 792418 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: http://www.valuegator.net/show.php?url=aron.ga is the "best price" so far < 1440515751 900846 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea where you live but I will turn up on your doorstep and demand beer < 1440515761 782994 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1440515787 62170 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing how many of these "domain appraisal" sites exist... < 1440515814 470540 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to imagine everyone on the internet lives in a high-rise in an East European country < 1440515826 223210 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why, that is just what I picture < 1440515837 699462 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never lived in either a high-rise or an east European country < 1440515854 204652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that bit about East European countries sounded like an xkcd tag line < 1440515943 841382 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, in fact, Randall Munroe < 1440515963 565338 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-195-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo. I'm in the big time now. http://www.valuegator.net/show.php?url=hulksandhorrors.com < 1440516016 811215 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-195-15.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.valuegator.net/show.php?url=bedroomwallpress.com < 1440516103 656318 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That website values taneb.uk at $30 < 1440516111 655615 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is more than I paid for it, I think < 1440516167 468190 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it puts int-e.eu at $69 < 1440516197 275432 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1440516436 703509 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440516436 794719 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1440516436 794786 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1440516624 398504 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1440516876 534024 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1440518044 576796 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440518721 577418 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1440518855 22448 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440518890 537001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1440519239 623124 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440519666 939115 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440520588 268165 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440520822 940008 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440522710 648635 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1440522855 897964 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440523800 358181 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:100:1dbb:5808:7bf:d1a9:7d3a JOIN :#esoteric < 1440523800 412670 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:100:1dbb:5808:7bf:d1a9:7d3a QUIT :Changing host < 1440523800 412742 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1440524459 339213 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440524579 943360 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1440524668 546823 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440524963 554577 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440525625 93215 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440525625 272314 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1440525625 326509 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1440525816 683982 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1440525833 432303 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440529287 955343 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1440529360 600948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid javascripted website < 1440529377 289433 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440529420 311381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they are all being stupid (mostly) < 1440529445 226412 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one uses javascript to replace ordinary select boxes with some javascripted widget that doesn't work properly < 1440529466 885363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't like that either. Turn off scripts if you can I suppose < 1440529480 845089 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can, but many pages just refuse to work that way < 1440529499 307463 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1440529510 728618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some webpages will work fine without scripts if you override the CSS < 1440529537 54503 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some, yes < 1440529545 795892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could also try to use a GreaseMonkey script to change them back how it was before < 1440529579 75096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( tested with IE 4 and Opera 3.0 ) < 1440529894 345945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There doesn't seem to be extensions to enable/disable/override individual scripts; I would think it would be good idea < 1440530112 533141 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1440530122 673329 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440531161 917194 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440531322 312926 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440532146 678947 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1440532449 524310 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmgosvfabmdopkpd JOIN :#esoteric < 1440532513 275340 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440533186 770689 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1440533466 938019 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440533587 358158 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1440536581 18210 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1440537510 480322 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1440537936 810885 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1440538391 551747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1440538954 941898 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1440540045 234313 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone's ever come up with a list of words or phrases that refer to specific other words or phrases. < 1440540058 51940 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "tetragrammaton" and "F-word". < 1440540079 472888 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you call such a list? < 1440540135 889867 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is tetragrammaton? < 1440540173 614906 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1440540176 10629 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tetragrammaton is the word יהוה. < 1440540218 516868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: *what would < 1440540227 186759 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1440540306 743091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit of a germanic/romance difference there, i think < 1440540389 73546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, no, german is also on the romance side < 1440540395 629548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wie nennt man ..." < 1440540430 564019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440541933 757980 :ghettofatso!~krek4life@178.220.102.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440542118 613239 :ghettofatso!~krek4life@178.220.102.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you actualy dont talk about iluminati here < 1440542162 958036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wrong #esoteric < 1440542167 11736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ghettofatso < 1440542181 305002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel's about intentionally bad programming languages < 1440542181 652378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghettofatso: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1440542204 73640 :ghettofatso!~krek4life@178.220.102.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, bye :) < 1440542206 256390 :ghettofatso!~krek4life@178.220.102.228 PART :#esoteric < 1440542243 608485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the EFent or DALnet channels are active yet < 1440542254 885942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've sent enough people there, after all < 1440542280 833028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DALnet channel was empty last I checked, I think. < 1440542310 55602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like there are some people in the EFnet channel. < 1440542917 410749 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eeing < 1440542985 290287 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That showed up perfectly in my font! < 1440543006 699926 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, the characters were in the right order) < 1440543088 929115 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently cygwin's terminal has RTL support < 1440543544 192910 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so useful < 1440543544 618747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added the EFnet because someone said it was more active than the DALnet one, last we checked < 1440543553 502860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+one < 1440544668 387763 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan, whaich unicode characters are important to you? < 1440544682 332585 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the snowman < 1440544686 299882 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new version which I'm about to upload has the snowman < 1440544715 321645 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you type all of that in 4s? < 1440544730 947187 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I was about to mention it < 1440544753 834363 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because someone, possibly you, mentioned the snowman < 1440544756 701179 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before < 1440544765 18028 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be me < 1440544772 557883 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes you think it was me < 1440544808 830199 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then maybe... oh yeah i think it was zzo38 who mentioned a snowman < 1440544975 125343 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it has the snowman and all the math characters < 1440545000 342962 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have q ? < 1440545017 854991 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd never use a font without q < 1440545041 421690 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah it has q < 1440545058 397129 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is greatly impressed < 1440545116 416574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how to write q. < 1440545121 947773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I handwrite it it always looks like 9. < 1440545126 901606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how to handwrite. < 1440545132 739871 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like a backward p < 1440545144 285334 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :handwriting is overrated < 1440545147 850359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when handwriting q I was taught to make a sharp diagonal line up and to the right from the base < 1440545147 953417 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least that is how i write a little q < 1440545155 257109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowercase q, that is < 1440545163 794635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas with a 9 you're curling the defender to the left < 1440545197 235958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't curl anything to the left when writing 9. < 1440545208 261888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*descender < 1440545243 185506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: clearly the problem is that your 9s look like qs hth < 1440545266 225226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, descender makes more sense. < 1440545275 331035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was an obscure typographical term I didn't know. < 1440545279 775464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when in doubt, you could always add a cross to the descender... < 1440545311 233172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm still on defence about that hth < 1440545332 410097 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 looks exactly like a g < 1440545337 510596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm do i do that or not, i'm not sure < 1440545339 424664 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but higher up < 1440545346 588671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 and g are very similar, yes < 1440545370 621362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way to distinguish them that I was taught is that the vertical line on the right of a g goes up slightly higher than the loop < 1440545448 246736 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the double storey g < 1440545453 761010 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no confusion < 1440545487 761121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm pretty sure i avoid having any vertical line up on my 9s < 1440545515 887933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _think_ i draw it clockwise, which makes that easier < 1440545523 25715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1440545526 971593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i draw g counterclockwise < 1440545543 232553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently drawing a 9 clockwise is some sort of horrendous offence against typography but I don't really see why < 1440545549 743816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1440545563 606511 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I draw it clockwise < 1440545567 411868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION being efficient by not knowing about rules < 1440545582 650644 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and g < 1440545589 41593 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and d < 1440545591 426951 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and p < 1440545598 674825 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and W < 1440545610 798113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d counterclockwise, p clockwise < 1440545613 793430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clockwise but time-foolish < 1440545649 965368 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, W I draw in three strokes < 1440545653 973937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has a thing where they have clocks that give them an open interval of possible current times, rather than a single point < 1440545658 318612 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: 3?? < 1440545668 903959 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1440545679 239666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a guarantee that the interval applies to every clock they have in the world < 1440545691 481585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems much more reasonable than pretending that time is a single point < 1440545697 835534 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even imagine how you draw that < 1440545710 826768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this sort of sliding scale between "my letters look typed" and "my letters have loops and flourish" that depends on situation. < 1440545732 345572 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first draw an L, then draw two vertical strokes on top of the baseline < 1440545738 668670 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1440545747 872831 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kinda thinking \|/ < 1440545853 296081 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my letters look very much like my font < 1440545871 236737 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except less perfectly rounded/straight < 1440545890 611303 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't actually draw an o as a perfect circle < 1440545995 730531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm particularly nervous or fixing up errors when solving crosswords, i may even add serifs < 1440546088 274362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :solving crosswords probably accounts for 90% of my handwritten letters these days. < 1440546102 956217 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new version of my font is up < 1440546128 416390 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the demo is not yet updated, but you can see I fixed the Ŵ < 1440546248 148732 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's take the set of all strings with a certain alphabet < 1440546264 18386 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's define a distance over this set < 1440546284 372683 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(a,b) = 0 iff a == b < 1440546321 834642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman This can mean two things. Either they're all surprisingly fit <-- when first seeing that in the log, part of the window was hidden so i read that as "they're all surfing" hth < 1440546321 889022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1440546369 500248 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(a,b) = 1 if a is b minus 1 char, or b is a minus 1 char, or b can be produced by swapping two adjacent characters in a, or a and b differ for only one character < 1440546381 73741 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(a,b) = 2 in any other case < 1440546404 299336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you stop at 2? < 1440546405 983570 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1440546412 843944 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1440546434 893872 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's extend all the things i said about 1 to n < 1440546485 873902 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmh no < 1440546487 394746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damerau%E2%80%93Levenshtein_distance hth < 1440546489 34068 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a distance anymore < 1440546505 294912 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1440546517 703330 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to correct typos < 1440546546 722046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Damerau not only distinguished these four edit operations but also stated that they correspond to more than 80% of all human misspellings." < 1440546550 179742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so was he < 1440546576 92958 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :C < 1440546771 878012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it also applies pretty well to DNA mutations < 1440546917 25572 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, when trying to fix a mispelled word, how far would you search? < 1440547028 604722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that depends on the writer < 1440547090 374284 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far would *you* search? < 1440547092 551723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's probably some point at which the number of options starts becoming too large < 1440547118 167601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't, i alwase spel corectly < 1440547129 603230 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1440547167 172118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded about a comic