< 1445299210 584966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing surrounding what's-his-name in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0996.html is the thing from http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0969.html < 1445299215 514547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Haven't read it yet. < 1445299253 93471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will hopefully get to it soon. < 1445299983 297826 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445300033 256784 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/~cohen/WangFinal.pdf < 1445300033 433529 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :votes are being counted! < 1445300107 580869 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone actually cares who is in charge of canada, you can watch the election results http://www.cbc.ca/includes/federalelection/dashboard/ < 1445300467 781786 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprits < 1445300468 696755 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1445300757 998282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445301087 735756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I care about the election itself but need someone to explain it to me, because I'm not following Canadian politics closely < 1445301107 129298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more something I check in on time to time < 1445301135 483215 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445301137 162220 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1445301157 303252 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445301187 164301 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1445301270 645720 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for starters, the colours: < 1445301295 667309 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red = Liberals, essentially centre-left < 1445301343 95800 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1445301359 14817 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue = Conservatives < 1445301416 636642 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orange = NDP = New Democratic Party , hard left < 1445301446 410334 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green = Green Party, superextreme left environmentalists < 1445301473 677142 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized. Kleene algebra operates on strings. < 1445301481 133548 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green probably will get maybe one seat, so they aren't important < 1445301499 624578 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has addition (a+b) and multiplication (ab). < 1445301505 94840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why environmental parties tend to be left
< 1445301518 186147 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can create a Matrix of Strings. < 1445301532 982908 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is a bit ironic, being that they like to /conserve/ < 1445301536 465268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1445301539 51061 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody? < 1445301543 296852 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : hahahaa < 1445301547 98139 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that the joke ais523 was already trying to make < 1445301644 460780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oerjan: wasn't meant to be a joke < 1445301654 906680 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Interesting. < 1445301689 686414 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that you mention it, that is a little interesting; not that there are ones in the left, but that they're /all/ in the left. < 1445301690 322766 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the main story tonight is that after 10 years of the conservatives under Harper, people want to get rid of him, badly < 1445301829 469963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he still leader of the conservatives, or have they nominated someone else in an attempt to avoid getting voted out? < 1445301843 575511 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he's still the candidate < 1445301846 218253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, apparently make accepts $($(x)) in a makefile < 1445301856 608159 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1445301874 292635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :acting much the same way as PHP or Perl < 1445301938 570849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Canadian politics (sorry for interrupting the offtopic conversation with an ontopic one) < 1445301970 757784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally we discuss canadian politics in ##nomic because it's ontopic there < 1445301972 482157 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone in here ever read A Gebra named Al? < 1445302011 473876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I haven't read it, but it should be noted that "algorithm" is actually eponymous, it's a corruption of someone's name < 1445302019 96596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about "algebra" but it might have a similar etymology < 1445302027 422094 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1445302039 940712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case the book's name is trying to make a joke but the joke fails because the etymology really does work like that < 1445302044 918077 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're both arabic -_- < 1445302062 601066 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Al" means "The" in arabic, roughly < 1445302068 812066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1445302071 778575 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in "Al Queda", which means "The Base" < 1445302074 775426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you also use it with names and the like < 1445302080 675257 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1445302144 22122 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "A Gebra Named Al" was a book they made me read in 6th grade on algebra. It was a nice book, if I remember correctly. < 1445302181 30783 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a gebra, then? < 1445302199 234507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that "the" is a word that many non-native-English speakers have trouble with because it works differently in different languages, either slightly (e.g. in French you use "le"/"la" with country names), or heavily (in Chinese it doesn't exist at all, AFAIK) < 1445302207 806278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't exist in Latin either < 1445302232 241557 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd kind of like to see a book on interesting little pockets of mathematics, which actually gives you in-depth information on it, that is all tied together with a plot. I think To Mock a Mockingbird is supposed to be like that... < 1445302242 325752 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps a small series of books < 1445302259 328105 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like that too < 1445302261 773547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: most of Smullyan's books are like that < 1445302269 976484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the ones that aren't massively long textbooks < 1445302291 843404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forever Undecided is one of my favourites, although some of them are more appropriate to esolanging (like The Lady or the Tiger?) < 1445302300 808346 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Raymond Merrill Smullyan (/ˈsmʌli.ən/; born May 25, 1919)[1] is an American mathematician, concert pianist, logician, Taoist philosopher, and magician." < 1445302307 274549 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awesome xD < 1445302308 408648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smullyan is great < 1445302314 601162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo smullyan++ < 1445302345 569298 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: demonstrative pronouns are similar < 1445302377 881807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepositions are even worse, they don't seem to be consistent between languages at all, and yet you can't just omit them because they're needed to understand the meaning of the sentence < 1445302404 823511 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also feel like making a mathematics website < 1445302454 748322 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages need more prepositions < 1445302460 626993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hebrew has a definite article but no indefinite article. < 1445302468 95062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any language with the reverse situation? < 1445302481 235649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newspaper Headlinese has no articles at all. < 1445302631 231206 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radicals are cool < 1445302639 183488 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the violent kind. The algebra kind. < 1445302676 873421 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized. If kleene algebra has multiplication, then it has exponentation (I think). Therefor it has roots. < 1445302682 542420 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, no it doesn't < 1445302691 142861 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how it works, idiot < 1445302715 114874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: exponentiation is by an integer < 1445302718 165125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ab)^3 = ababab < 1445302730 560320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can define the inverse of that but it's a partial function < 1445302740 117909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ababab)^1/3 = ab, but (ababa)^1/3 isn't defined < 1445302782 217906 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I figured that out < 1445302819 141879 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first part, I mean < 1445302839 455331 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does exponentiation where the power is a fraction of a non-one numerator work I wonder? < 1445302892 459101 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make a mathematics website that talks about the parts of mathematics /not/ covered on other mathematics websites. < 1445302893 743913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ababab)^2/3 = (ababab)^(2*1/3) = ((ababab)^1/3)^2 = (ab)^2 = abab would make sense. < 1445302920 301055 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sorry, I meant in the case of numbers xD < 1445302937 23960 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In numbers x^(1/n) = root(x, n) < 1445302952 352352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And x^(2/n) is root(x^2, n), because of the above. < 1445303020 177883 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. OK. < 1445303057 63718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or root(x, n)^2, since multiplication is commutative. < 1445303168 537889 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In quatenions, multiplication doesn't support the commutative property. In octonions, it doesn't even support the associative property. In sedenions, it isn't even fucking reflexive" < 1445303196 195471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, as in 1×1 isn't necessarily 1? < 1445303198 308490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what? < 1445303207 716963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't normally expect multiplication to be reflexive < 1445303260 501264 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a*b isn't necessarily equal to a*b < 1445303263 256642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Wikipedia, the property octonions have and sedenions don't is x(xy)=(xx)y < 1445303295 286962 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that the associative property? Wait, or is that a special case? < 1445303303 256502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a special case of associativity < 1445303307 355454 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was making a joke with a*b != a*b) < 1445303309 483656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :octonions have that, but not the general case < 1445303364 745628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiplication without associativity? Sounds like scow. < 1445303414 531687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1445303415 257639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445303436 193199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of something in Pippi Longstocking, or at least in the Hebrew version. < 1445303452 302036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Hebrew version of it? < 1445303458 643379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :She says that X without Y is like X' without Y', or X'' without Y'' < 1445303469 62539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe she says chocolate ice cream without chocolate, or something like that. < 1445303469 353379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: the given name is adjusted to "Peppi" in Finnish. < 1445303482 326332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: In Hebrew in the version I read she was called Gilgi. < 1445303489 374922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a movie where she's called Bilbi. < 1445303529 339042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A direct transliteration wouldn't go over well. < 1445303534 101405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a related Finnish proverb, that goes X without Y "on kuin talo ilman aitan polulla astelevaa emäntää." < 1445303560 42376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's based on a quote out of Aleksis Kivi's Seitsemän veljestä.) < 1445303595 705026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate isn't doing so well on that. < 1445303611 268231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you translate it manually? < 1445303615 297523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(into English, that is) < 1445303633 755739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not in a way that would retain the content very well. < 1445303716 592546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very approximately, "like a house without a wife* walking on the path to the barn", where especially emäntä -> wife doesn't really carry over the connotations. < 1445303771 230866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the implication that the house is lonely and that's why it's seeking the barn's company? < 1445303842 378116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The supposed implication is that the man (sorry for all this cisgender bias) living in the house will be unhappy. And I guess walking to/from the barn is the standard location for the wife to be. < 1445303890 591133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate, for me, says "-- like a house without a path to the barn with a mistress", which uses an even worse word (at least to my understanding of English), and manages to make it sound like the path to the barn is the important part. < 1445303976 405649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: algebra is not eponymous, but it's from the book that the guy who algorithm is named after wrote hth < 1445303985 392729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's a translation of Seitsemän veljestä that gets it more right. < 1445304002 192086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the same person discovered both algorithms and algebra? < 1445304005 534911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seitsemän veljestä has been translated twice into English, first by Alex. Matson,[1] later by Richard Impola --" < 1445304017 720917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that Matson wrote his first name with the period ("Alex.") to indicate that it was a short form." < 1445304025 598214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did he/she discover algebra, became famous for it, and then algorithms were named after him/her due to being famous? < 1445304054 243175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm pretty sure algorithms were invented by al gore hth < 1445304067 327335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algorhythms. < 1445304128 792861 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sounds like a fun way to make music... < 1445304234 427114 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, that was the World Wide Web. Most people think he invented the internet, but he only invented the WWW. < 1445304244 618554 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the irc subdomain of some sites < 1445304317 588817 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 minutes till the polls close, and the Blue Jays are winning 9-2 < 1445304328 86440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: are the two connected? < 1445304332 857758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there any language with the reverse situation? <-- i distinctly recall last we asked this, i concluded farsi and/or turkish were examples < 1445304351 11608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is there any news on who's winning yet? or is it like the UK, where news about elections is suppressed while polling is open? < 1445304371 460744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(news outlets are only allowed to report very basic facts about the elections while polling is open, such as the fact that they exist) < 1445304392 152203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]> How does exponentiation where the power is a fraction of a non-one numerator work I wonder? < 1445304403 90438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1445304411 67130 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They haven't taught that yet xD < 1445304422 473672 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Liberal party has swept the Atlantic provinces < 1445304426 636164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid mouse slipped a line < 1445304440 287850 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, they haven't even taught us that sqrt(x) = x**(1/2) < 1445304446 760897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my comment was going to be "i have a strong sense of deja vu today" < 1445304458 222436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they haven't taught you what sqrt(-1) is yet either < 1445304458 779168 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I said that before? < 1445304473 852008 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: She just mentioned imaginary numbers for the first time today. I think. < 1445304474 29107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well someone did, and who else would it be < 1445304485 587238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although x**(1/2) is a convenient way to write sqrt(x) on IRC (although, mostly when generalized) < 1445304496 926712 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That doesn't seem that convinient... < 1445304505 494998 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/vin/ven/ < 1445304508 345425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x**(1/3), possibly with variant notations for exponentials, is by far the easiest way to write cube root < 1445304517 157711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the cube root symbol requires a bunch of Unicode < 1445304517 513761 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, however, I agree with. < 1445304521 901929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode square root < 1445304523 103670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​√ < 1445304523 950529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cbrt()? < 1445304530 142605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ∛? < 1445304538 994208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :³​√ < 1445304544 59964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :؆ < 1445304547 450155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise there was a specific cube root symbol < 1445304550 526976 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a cabaret function. < 1445304582 965871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess a³​√b would be ambiguous if there weren't < 1445304596 894782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read _The Number Devil_? < 1445304603 732644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good book I read when I was young. < 1445304635 346893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to remember the books I read when I was very young < 1445304650 558463 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen people talk about {}=0, and I assume that that that's like church numerals; a symbolic form of representation that is just treating {} as 0, not literal equality. Now I want to find the wiki article that talks about this, but I don't know what to look up xD < 1445304651 247346 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the number devil < 1445304660 51894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a sequence of books, I think called "Puddle Lane", which had very simple vocabulary and in which nothing much really happened < 1445304669 800597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty suitable for learning to read on < 1445304697 929314 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found it, I think < 1445304708 60994 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the polls in central canada are closed now < 1445304845 351270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: look up "ZFC", specifically the axiom of infinity (which is normally considered to define the natural numbers) < 1445304845 569336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: the same person discovered both algorithms and algebra? <-- well he got algorithms named after him, pretty sure euclid had one much earlier, and probably the egyptians and babylonians too < 1445304877 390230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it possible to come up with an algorithm despite not knowing what they are? < 1445304884 735840 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surreal Kleene Algebra? xd < 1445304886 590047 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*xD < 1445304901 145564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I take it the closings/openings are based on timezones? < 1445304920 220188 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah mostly < 1445304952 407716 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a funge where the code can modify the topology of funge-space? < 1445304976 638540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How do you feel about that? < 1445304976 819561 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: using this pointer and the pet 64, cris berneburg for proof reading. < 1445305000 939978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: He proofread the whole book using just one pointer and a PET 64? Impressive. < 1445305001 153521 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when writing the file as the sprite using blanks and solid circles shift+q in data port a has the important lesson here is as follows: < 1445305037 505342 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go take a shower and think about that. < 1445305044 98790 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I walked home and as such need a shower. < 1445305055 846248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The IPMD Funge-98 fingerprint is (in a very limited way) like that. < 1445305078 738055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can restrict an IP to run in 1-, 2- or 3-dimensional mode. < 1445305353 770874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, al-khwarizmi means something like "the guy from Khwarezm". as i recall reading, Khwarezm was a relatively prosperous region in central asia until they made the mistake of gravely angering a certain guy called Genghis Khan... < 1445305443 553282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can it increase the number of dimensions beyond that of the original program? < 1445305449 788195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. can it make v not reflect in Unefunge? < 1445305469 902943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably it'd enter an infinite loop unless you used the now two- or three-dimensional p to put another command in its path) < 1445305511 959494 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CBC is projecting a liberal government based on, I assume, what they pulled out of their < 1445305526 295494 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Not topological enough. I want curves, goddammit. < 1445305538 585676 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean they have basically no data yet < 1445305573 862985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(protip: don't kill the emissaries of great conquerors. unless your byname is dracula.) < 1445305605 401380 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of all the esolang families, I think the fungoids are the ones with the greatest probability of general acceptance < 1445305630 598325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in the last UK election, the BBC predicted that the Conservatives would be the largest party by a large margin, right after the polls closed < 1445305651 399195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody really believed them, but eventually it turned out that they'd /under/estimated and the Conservatives actually got a majority < 1445305675 388920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then all the pollsters were depressed that they hadn't figured it out, and all the political pundits were trying to figure out why and how < 1445305701 473561 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pjgmlnukvpaljzty JOIN :#esoteric < 1445305746 365194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: As far as I can tell, yes. < 1445305807 135813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case it should really let programs have arbitrarily many dimensions (so long as the number of dimensions is some finite number that fits in a fungecell) < 1445305838 913752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps even have +1 and -1 dimension options, to make Funge-98 TC in a particularly unusual way < 1445305863 262959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to work out if zero-dimensional funge is even potentially useful
< 1445305863 645147 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 and -1 dimension options? < 1445305866 325162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it is < 1445305870 397703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't < 1445305876 185322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: commands that increase/decrease the number of dimensions < 1445305876 362403 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, technically < 1445305904 67225 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Nofunge-98 isn't useful, but a 0D fung/oid/ could be < 1445305914 654622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's one of the RC fingerprints, I don't think their fungespace implementation is generic enough to go over 3. < 1445305920 196223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Formula was my attempt to make a zero-dimensional language < 1445305932 969018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :RCS, that is. < 1445305937 830824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, "is two-dimensional Formula TC" is an outstanding question < 1445305950 512999 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if every unicode character was assigned a script value that could be useful < 1445305965 96088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although come to think of it, you can probably compile http://esolangs.org/wiki/Nopfunge into it (which would make it TC) < 1445305970 696773 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(λ: Evaluate a lambda calculus expression entered into a snazzy GUI) < 1445306028 443967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well I guess if the language only allows for one-command programs, but one of those commands is X from CHIQRSX9+ < 1445306036 53326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is defined as "makes the language Turing-complete") < 1445306046 651699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that xD < 1445306204 790927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, I'm being stupid < 1445306211 535036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nopfunge allows wire crossing, Formula doesn't < 1445306216 416020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes a huge difference in this case < 1445306258 286851 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think part of J-Why could be generalized to become actually /useful/ in teaching programmers < 1445306271 682805 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Existing programmers, not new programmers. God no for new programmers) < 1445306391 674913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nopfunge is well-named; it basically is a derivative of Formula-2 which adds NOP, and that makes it TC < 1445306404 105007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless Formula-2 is itself TC, which seems unlikely but possible) < 1445306453 17771 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1445306484 803036 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough about topology to decide how a Topologically-Inclined Fungoid would work xD < 1445306544 395810 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexfunge might work... < 1445306549 488554 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hex would be a feature < 1445306752 346462 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow burger queen have 5 ridings! < 1445306761 393600 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean bloc quebecois < 1445306991 625892 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it chrstia freeland is winning < 1445307445 350804 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the whole damn country is red < 1445307536 187490 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the PC's are still taking Alberta and Saskachewan < 1445307601 472801 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445307604 711184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a centre-left party doing well is not surprising, if the previous government is right/centre-right but the PM is unpopular < 1445307765 519649 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@247-3-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445307766 983105 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. In terms of election promises, this means we'll have legal marijuana < 1445307843 883593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a pretty clever/simple way to increase turnout < 1445307865 198392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I don't care about election promises much because the typical track record for actually keeping them is low < 1445307883 669144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous UK government I was apprehensive about, because one of their main election promises, I really dislked < 1445307885 939964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they broke it < 1445307889 686432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the whole Big Society thing) < 1445308018 375612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also the whole tuition fees thing, which I didn't care about nearly as much as some other people, but which in retrospect may have been the Conservatives intentionally making the Lib Dems look bad in order to improve their position at the next election < 1445308316 596395 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@2620:101:f000:3006::894 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445308364 600578 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@2620:101:f000:3006::894 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445308555 342151 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@rn-nat-129-97-131-0.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1445308622 528987 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1445309556 976971 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445310524 766687 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1445310865 584902 :codergeek42!~pgordon@137.151.175.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445310865 801557 :codergeek42!~pgordon@137.151.175.64 QUIT :Changing host < 1445310865 801681 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445311128 600878 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445312411 586627 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445312459 303222 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445312556 382767 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445312770 615238 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445313507 245664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Infinite Vector14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44805&oldid=44775 5* 03Ais523 5* (+300) 10reply < 1445313787 500265 :TieSleep!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445313801 305543 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1445313885 321983 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1445314275 776913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unnamed14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44806 5* 03Vihan 5* (+1866) 10Created Unnamed < 1445314312 308183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unnamed14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44807&oldid=44806 5* 03Vihan 5* (+10) 10 < 1445314374 775109 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445314401 377731 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445315081 616863 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445315332 233645 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445315363 628008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, unnamed has two different commands; the only syntactic difference between them is that one of them has two parameters the same, and the other has the two parameters different; and there isn't a semantic difference, the same-parameter command does the same thing that the different-parameter would if given two equal parameters < 1445315379 302604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably just a mistake / not thinking things through, but I like it on a conceptual level < 1445316254 385856 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1445316869 879373 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, majority govt. Now let's not pull an Obama and try for consensus... Ram the marijuana down the conservatives' throats! < 1445317016 114449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: did you vote Liberal by any chance? < 1445317028 485340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was that the only reason, or were there others? < 1445317031 606851 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, NDP. < 1445317051 868322 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for a Lib-NDP coalition < 1445317085 498544 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Hawt. < 1445317087 762944 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTB Obama third term < 1445317104 671251 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gay marijuana healthcare ahoy! < 1445317165 999225 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe when we stop spending literally all of our money on military < 1445317167 855441 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do support legalizing marijuana, even though I've never tried it < 1445317170 134072 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can finally legalize gay weed < 1445317202 546011 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a more serious note, yes, I do support legalizing weed. < 1445317207 201584 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have even voted in favor of it. < 1445317207 925509 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have good infrastructure and public services and affordable higher education < 1445317208 778199 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1445317229 433757 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't really care to imbibe, but that's just me. < 1445317236 795624 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah who am I kidding < 1445317250 38634 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah that too, but legal marijuana is a election promise that doesn't cost any money < 1445317261 85922 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it reduces costs < 1445317265 410614 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually our budging will be so skewed toward military that congress just shuts down and we become an independent military group. < 1445317282 114785 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a giant military nation < 1445317377 678056 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1445317426 614366 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we canadians kind of rely on you being scary, seeing as we can't really afford a real military < 1445317429 148079 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :defending nothing, invading everything. freedom and democracy for everyone < 1445317490 334213 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite thing is the people on Twitter who threatened to move to Canada over the supreme court decision on same-sex marriage. < 1445317515 75147 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they obviously do not know anything about Canada. < 1445317525 668467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Canada have same-sex marriage already, by any chance? < 1445317529 944667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does Mexico?) < 1445317530 556476 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1445317534 665451 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no(?) < 1445317540 594894 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Actually yes. < 1445317546 492493 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. aight < 1445317551 485583 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mexico's Supreme Court ruled on it a week before the US. < 1445317556 51016 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems legit < 1445317570 597952 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada has had gay marriage for more than a decade < 1445317573 131403 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and several European nations have had it for over a decade now < 1445317577 88939 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1445318022 843271 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-50df7d-171.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445318259 983124 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also. they should make this his official picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRuvAh-UsAAZZXd.png:large < 1445318497 391848 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you're canadian? < 1445318510 446833 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an election. < 1445318523 733639 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sitting in a polling station waiting for the last voters to go by when I started to hear the results Oo < 1445318576 166169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you were an election helper? < 1445318671 915572 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://helloworld.letsencrypt.org/ \o/ < 1445318862 536554 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah I'm canadian, < 1445318918 720578 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, a scrutineer < 1445318923 233684 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the worst DRO < 1445318930 71856 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(deputy returning office) < 1445319033 316044 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445319539 491047 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445321897 897863 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445321953 248392 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445322023 347154 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1445322986 210744 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445323420 966343 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445324203 128438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nopfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44808&oldid=44272 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+329) 10Added a mention of translation's halting and A register. < 1445324417 418623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445326066 660747 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445326081 321067 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445326096 72979 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445326109 329110 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445326820 319621 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445327663 582774 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445328145 64700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445328343 6507 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445328893 111287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1445329491 684730 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445329506 421261 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445329558 115030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1445329859 676019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but that wasn't the non-obvious thing to me in OotS #996. the part that was non-obvious to me is that that creature template gives him the ability to turn to that animal for free, not only to turn to the animal from #932. < 1445330120 88413 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Hebrew has a definite article but no indefinite article. Is there any language with the reverse situation?" -- haven't we had this discussion a month ago already? I pointed to http://wals.info/chapter/37 which listed some languages, but the comments on wals pointed out that some of that data was wrong. < 1445330199 478830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, algebra! you were talking about a lot of things this night < 1445330323 487809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The supposed implication is that the man (sorry for all this cisgender bias) living in the house will be unhappy." -- hah, I'm actually reading Kalevala these days, in Rácz István's translation, and it's probably the most gender biased epic ever. < 1445330366 866212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oerjan: i'm pretty sure algorithms were invented by al gore hth" -- oh, good one, we should add that to a wisdom < 1445330389 535395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? al gore < 1445330390 830776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :al gore? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445330400 584117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn al gore/al gore invented the algorithm < 1445330404 47750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «al gore» < 1445330428 618853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: e.g. going to bed is something other than algorithmic complexity < 1445330567 670905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445330568 602469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445330623 843092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn algorithms were invented by Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445330626 422073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'algorithm': algorithms were invented by Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445330865 684302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44809&oldid=44666 5* 03196.21.124.114 5* (+327) 10/* Game */ < 1445331275 975415 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445331276 152295 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1445331276 152368 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445331676 671430 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :god I forgot how backwards the Python community is < 1445332448 734273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come there's no Battlegrowth instant that costs {G/W} yet (that is, a reversed polarity Scar). Isn't growing a creature supposed to be slightly cheaper than shrinking a creature? < 1445332468 131266 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why backwards? < 1445332568 638384 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/890128/why-python-lambdas-are-useful just read this < 1445332578 115126 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the comments and responses < 1445333315 53319 :kallisti!4b750530@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1445333342 72613 :kallisti!3260e9d1@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1445334924 491338 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445335344 681402 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python merely lowers the bar. < 1445335406 491923 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@rn-nat-129-97-131-0.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445335685 780856 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore. < 1445335688 435547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'algorithm': Algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore. < 1445335753 258336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: hey, did you just overwrite mine? < 1445335766 927432 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: at least keep the bit about God's Algorithm < 1445335777 841848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445335779 106498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore. < 1445335804 564665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, should I `revert war on this? < 1445335833 503398 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is god's algorithm actually written down anywhere though? < 1445335842 875412 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's p. big < 1445335889 99793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you can't write it down, but it's very easy (on any modern computer) to find the fastest solution for any one starting position < 1445335907 422223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: so dynamically calculating it is easier than writing down everything < 1445335945 591083 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there is actually an algorithm. < 1445335959 675985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the difficult thing the researchers did (with the help of some large number of computers provided by Google) is to actually compute this for all starting positions to verify that it never takes more than 20 steps, < 1445335970 658290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whcih needed a lot of clever optimizations of course < 1445336019 619733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really, if you only need the algorithm for one starting position, a typical desktop pc can compute it for you in a minute or a second, I don't know which. < 1445336077 758956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, there are about 2**64 positions, which is too large to search all, but its square root is 2**32 so it's easy to do a two-way search of 10 moves from each side. < 1445336216 420266 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1445336218 905619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1445336235 452020 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chirp < 1445336252 124995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still haven't fixed that. Maybe some day. < 1445336483 571880 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445336657 650239 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445336791 782223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445336792 717107 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithms were invented by Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445336798 842838 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be better to combine those two thoguh < 1445336840 111599 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445336842 917293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'algorithm': algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445337067 462352 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445337126 101304 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-247-16.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445337245 278377 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445337773 451261 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445337816 977223 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: CHELLOPPRO! < 1445337833 703945 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445337863 607601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that just sounds like someone really good at the cello < 1445338030 141145 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445338175 210414 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445338210 53474 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. maybe he is? < 1445338278 545295 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445338336 225543 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoticon14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44810&oldid=33710 5* 03110.92.124.219 5* (-4) 10/* Emoticon basics */ < 1445338521 415727 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoticon14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44811&oldid=44810 5* 03110.92.124.219 5* (+51) 10/* Introduction */ < 1445338757 303421 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445338824 659294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoticon14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44812&oldid=44811 5* 03110.92.124.219 5* (-102) 10/* Emoticon basics */ < 1445338864 220902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Exomuse 5* 10New user account < 1445339377 114170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric programming language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44813&oldid=37181 5* 03Exomuse 5* (+29) 10 < 1445339619 631858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Exomuse14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44814 5* 03Exomuse 5* (+256) 10Created page with "+[--------->++<]>+.++++.+[->+++<]>+.++++..----.+++++.-------.-[--->+<]>--.-[--->++<]>-.+++++.-[->+++++<]>-.---[->++++<]>.------------.---.--[--->+<]>-.---[----->++<]>.--------..." < 1445340083 504807 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1445340084 78332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 201100Z 23019KT 15SM OVC067 12/06 A2992 RMK AC8 SLP132 < 1445340094 828653 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy weather. < 1445340191 533924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1445340191 816335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 201050Z AUTO 32005KT 290V010 9999 FEW019 13/08 Q1028 NOSIG < 1445340198 887689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1445340199 201648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 201050Z 11009KT 9999 BKN021 05/01 Q1025 NOSIG < 1445340365 701696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit ashamed of not biking to work here, because the weather would permit that for a much longer time of the year (yes, yes, you can technically do it all year round, but I'm not crazy); it's just that doing it out there all mixed up in the traffic seems so intimidating, after having gotten used to my previous "6 km of bike trails only with no car traffic" commute. < 1445340506 854113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should build one of those cycling superhighways they have, except one from my front door to the office. < 1445340549 323193 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. biking with cars around you is an interesting experience that offers plenty of learning opportunities. < 1445340574 900018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, such as what's it like being crushed by a vehicle? < 1445340636 153630 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1445340713 997397 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being crushed by a moving vehicle, smashing into a vehicle (did that once; I got something in my eye, couldn't see anything and stamped myself on a parked car), smashing into another biker, smashing into a pedestrian... < 1445340739 386466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you're really selling the idea here. < 1445340764 4470 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting a ticket by a cop (got that too!) < 1445340832 620752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TERRITORIAL CHICKEN < 1445341368 210645 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445342491 261735 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1445342511 560732 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445342742 433926 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445343039 258571 :noncom!~noncom@84.52.94.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445343050 839618 :noncom!~noncom@84.52.94.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1445343540 440549 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445343581 492284 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d14:9bb0:2e65:fd8c JOIN :#esoteric < 1445343581 669180 :bender|!~benderx2@2404:e800:e61a:41d:d14:9bb0:2e65:fd8c QUIT :Changing host < 1445343581 669232 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445343735 328951 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445343916 287107 :draghi!~draghi@CPE-1-122-225-63.wwl9.wel.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445344195 887450 :draghi!~draghi@CPE-1-122-225-63.wwl9.wel.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1445344224 571802 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1445345511 948579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have half of the key to my bike lock in my pocket < 1445345560 825599 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the other half < 1445345582 9225 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlikely, I believe it's stuck in the lock < 1445345586 806739 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you my bike lock < 1445345587 131228 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stole it < 1445345607 371709 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my precious < 1445345626 520491 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? precious < 1445345627 301656 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1445345627 478608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :precious? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445345632 906807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/battle-zendikar-update-bulletin%E2%80%94comprehensive-rules-changes-2015-10-09 at 601.2 tells that the update should close a recently added hole about an exploit where you could see hidden information by proposing an illegal spell and rolling it back; but I don't see the fix in the 2015-09-26 comprehensive rules. What gives? < 1445345633 83662 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1445345658 604353 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn precious? That doesn't ring a bell. ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445345660 823805 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'precious?': precious? That doesn't ring a bell. ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1445345664 824591 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1445345684 500506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/precious\? wisdom/precious < 1445345687 410741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445345774 146859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. In windows CMD, does CALL always work for a non-batch file executable? I want to run an executable by name without extension from the path, and it may or may not be a batch file. < 1445345860 679014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490873.aspx "call [[Drive:][Path] FileName -- [ Drive : ][ Path ] FileName : Specifies the location and name of the batch program you want to call. The FileName parameter must have a .bat or .cmd extension." < 1445345905 366301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah yeah, but that's not what it seems like when I test < 1445345925 825280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must be relying on undocumented stuff. < 1445345934 446237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? on windows? wow < 1445345953 304004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, I'm using CMD, where even half of the quoting is undocumented and inconsistent < 1445346059 376218 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445346059 630447 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445346358 155627 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1445346641 141168 :noncom!~noncom@84.52.94.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone try to implement https://esolangs.org/wiki/Hyper_Set_Language ? < 1445347560 175352 :noncom!~noncom@84.52.94.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh.. < 1445347857 489586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :216 pages in Category:Unimplemented, 594 in Category:Implemented. That's not actually too terrible. < 1445347893 104876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are all languages categorized in one of those or Category:Unimplementable ? < 1445347898 825717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1445347917 26927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category:Languages has 923 pages. < 1445347923 665658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 216 + 594 < 1445347926 831172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 810 < 1445347939 177992 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445347980 476282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't notice your reference to Category:Unimplementable. That's not a category we have. < 1445347985 501536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do have Category:Uncomputable. < 1445347986 826458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also, some of that statistics might be skewed by the stereotypical hundreds of brainfuck equivalents that are trivially implemented with a one-liner like sed 'y/<>-+[]/g;s/left//g;s/down/-/g;s/up/+/g;s/begin/[/g;s/end/]/g' | brainfuck < 1445347999 108461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1445348004 109401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have an unimplementable category? < 1445348006 310656 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the heck not < 1445348012 32172 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have tons of unimplementable languages < 1445348040 8462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unimplementable for all kinds of different reasons, each language inventing a new one < 1445348069 190042 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are boring, like, so underspecced that nobody understands what the text on the page means and the original author vanished < 1445348084 547781 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are lots of languages that are unimplementable for interesting reasons < 1445348106 736205 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445348119 136651 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also lots that are implementable in theory, but there's not much point implementing them, because the purpose is more a theoretical exercise than something to actually run programs in < 1445348188 363029 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've sworn there was a such category? < 1445348215 610023 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was thinking of http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Uncomputable < 1445348312 524205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Schrodilang is the only language that's in both Category:Implemented and Category:Unimplemented, and that's just a joke. < 1445348318 160573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Unusable_for_programming but that's different, eg. HQ9+ is unusable for programming but certainly implementable < 1445348324 651232 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to do a search like "in Category:Languages not-in Category:Unimplemented not-in Category:Implemented"? < 1445348343 540902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: There's a MultiCategorySearch extension, but we don't have it installed. < 1445348350 258311 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1445348372 485235 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: in classical logic that ought to be emoty < 1445348374 412800 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :*empty < 1445348374 846129 :noncom!~noncom@84.52.94.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think that languages like hyper set or binary lambda are not really esoteric, but dsl < 1445348388 799397 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: you could do it client-side by downloading the whole list of contents of each category with the api < 1445348390 388241 :noncom!~noncom@84.52.94.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a pov, any dsl can be seen as esoteric < 1445348394 274936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not big categories < 1445348431 145551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I located Schrodilang just by copy-pasting the page lists of both categories in a file + sort | uniq -c | sort -nr. < 1445348512 61216 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's also funny combinations like BANCStar which is implemented but unimplementible < 1445348521 264422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The category intersection can be a useful tool for answering "what was that 2D language with a stack?" kind of questions. Or at least would be if the categorization was all that complete. < 1445348547 72291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there could be something like < 1445348552 363568 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2104 foo < 1445348552 960275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 2104: not found < 1445348560 901268 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :< b_jonas> oh, there's also funny combinations like BANCStar which is implemented but unimplementible ← why is it unimplementable? < 1445348564 22789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages that are unimplementible now but will be implementible later < 1445348568 626291 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :lack of proper documentation? < 1445348571 279129 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: we don't have a complete enough spec, yes < 1445348582 773054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much is missing to make a convincing implementation < 1445348588 782945 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1445348633 633643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but an implementation supposedly exists in a floppy disk somewhere, and someone has it and would give it to us, but he disappered in circumstances that aren't suspicious at all < 1445348660 740362 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445349040 483102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the top-level https://esolangs.org/wiki/1L page is also Implemented | Unimplemented. < 1445349401 29302 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1445349411 924319 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/nvc3vdvh < 1445349558 965545 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :HYDRA0004/99BEER is a program that outputs "## bottles of beer on the wall.\015\n" 99 times, where ## is a number from 99 to 01 < 1445349632 364108 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know if anyone here cares < 1445349805 937619 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that guy from the washington post < 1445349881 686722 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit.. < 1445349901 411512 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a person here from the washington post? < 1445349928 556400 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a couple of years ago < 1445349968 840169 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell said person to NOT use anything i type < 1445350276 373249 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445350366 744709 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: wait, you told us where you buried the body? I must have missed that < 1445350434 386292 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :backyard of the house i grew up in. of course, that's the body of a pet guinea pig... < 1445350451 266336 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what happened to y old dog's body < 1445350454 263983 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my < 1445350478 505696 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :creamated. like all the other dead pets the vets get < 1445350486 308933 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1445350515 530195 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely < 1445350522 459881 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :She got hit by a train, or so I'm told < 1445350560 620431 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canine Mafia got her < 1445350913 428428 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :These lectures are fun when only three people try to answer questions < 1445351037 969565 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(representing chomsky grammars as graph grammars) < 1445351107 572844 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1445351427 570433 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1445351775 566025 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445352230 437680 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445352301 146663 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1445353447 365749 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445354040 453629 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1445354105 472744 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445354145 327476 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anything, really < 1445370056 717897 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445370183 999900 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1445370340 269950 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1445370343 238459 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone out there? < 1445370435 882229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no revert war twh < 1445370606 298213 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445370629 358382 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1445370648 595037 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445371080 423387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445371131 746932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the more reliable indicators of a spambot: it has a full name in the From: address, and says "hi, I'm «name»" or equivalent in the message body, and the two don't match < 1445371202 37777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why is that an indicator of spam? if I think you already know me from somewhere on the internet as a screen name, I might write that in an email, and I don't change the full name in the From. < 1445371205 338218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: last I checked the comp rules hadn't been updated on the website yet < 1445371223 274709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well neither name looked like a screen name < 1445371226 850342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is updated. it has the date in the text and the filename < 1445371256 42283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the editing process takes a while after the bulletin, but it's done by now < 1445371877 967987 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:AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1445376448 476439 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1445376906 936959 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445377047 306090 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1445377265 810060 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-218-244.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445377793 431300 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445377974 722774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1445378525 431660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? al gore < 1445378526 558041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :al gore invented the algorithm < 1445378546 623992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn al gore/Al Gore invented the algorithm. < 1445378549 327510 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «al gore» < 1445378638 431052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] but the comments on wals pointed out that some of that data was wrong. <-- and i checked further on farsi and turkish and found that it was true for at least one of them. < 1445378696 794819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot quite recall if it was both. i think farsi was most conclusive < 1445378700 535275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1445378723 297053 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1445378756 728335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445378757 805965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445378779 407467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't really work < 1445378795 236569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying Al Gore isn't medieval < 1445378833 152041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed, those two parts seem dissonant < 1445378858 410113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:09 Jafet: hey, did you just overwrite mine? < 1445378858 599762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:09 Jafet: at least keep the bit about God's Algorithm < 1445378906 466654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it doesn't work at all < 1445378980 823540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` learn "Algorithms were invented by Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster." # Combining the two jokes doesn't really work. Also, proofreading. < 1445378983 359150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'algorithm': Algorithms were invented by Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster. < 1445379173 19253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i preferred Jafet's < 1445379190 662719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] hah, I'm actually reading Kalevala these days, in Rácz István's translation, and it's probably the most gender biased epic ever. <-- proof that gender neutral pronouns don't help hth < 1445379281 106822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :critics < 1445379322 543635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, Jafet managed to use correct capitalization and punctuation < 1445379366 403250 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: surely the "popular sayings" part, alluding to aphorisms, could be kept? < 1445379401 587465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, how does a google computer cluster invent a popular saying < 1445379409 462728 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not less wrong than the second part anyway... < 1445379416 702493 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445379422 682874 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have language models, what's the problem... < 1445379430 931337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the problem isn't that they're wrong, the problem is that they're inconsistent with each other < 1445379435 258881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we had God's algorithm long before we had proof of God's number. < 1445379436 733943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh well < 1445379440 81510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1445379442 227080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1445379444 903689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Deep neural networks and time machines. Not that I'm saying anything. < 1445379447 620660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`algorithm < 1445379448 426974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: algorithm: not found < 1445379450 502696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so as I said, it's wrong regardless < 1445379452 866225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445379454 33759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster < 1445379475 65590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what's God's algorithm then < 1445379484 592156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the second part at all < 1445379494 386872 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I interpreted it as the optimal algorithm for solving Rubik's cube. < 1445379496 734717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1445379503 590013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm... < 1445379507 162798 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cube20.org/ < 1445379517 906684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With about 35 CPU-years of idle computer time donated by Google" < 1445379580 98608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/an/ < 1445379597 397037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whatever. < 1445379625 557294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/.\(.*\)/A&./' wisdom/algorithm < 1445379626 597680 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445379627 822896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445379632 537559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445379633 478449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aalgorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster. < 1445379636 550961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1445379649 424716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/a//' wisdom/algorithm < 1445379652 311667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1445379654 818055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algorithm < 1445379655 973463 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algorithms (derived from the medieval "algorisms") are popular sayings by former president Al Gore, except for God's Algorithm which was invented by a Google computer cluster. < 1445379669 258617 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1445379670 185018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1445379684 494643 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1445379685 583419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1445379719 446632 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Are there any Ørigami? ) < 1445379740 710875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to my mind, origami is only one step removed from papers) < 1445379747 513571 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445379775 685453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :none that still survive, i think. although ørjan did once find a book on origami in the school library. < 1445379801 569391 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445379899 973774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls you could make origami water balloons
< 1445379941 801889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, i was much to well-behaved to make proper use of this knowledge. < 1445379946 787291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1445380437 419420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a different person from ørjan in much the same way that I'm a different person from ais523_? < 1445380529 962542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very hypothetical question, as irc doesn't allow ø in nicks hth < 1445380570 920834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1445380571 865867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1445380574 773007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1445380575 857459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1445380590 378267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think ais523_ publishes paper. < 1445380611 512569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay Guru badge < 1445380614 243962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"publishes paper"? < 1445380627 747119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or papers. < 1445380628 31496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1445380642 988939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to remember if it's me or ais523_ who published the papers < 1445380645 601837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so you're saying it's the other way around? < 1445380663 600127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they were mostly submitted by my supervisor, who tends to use work computers (underscored) and personal laptops (not underscored) interchageably < 1445380668 308436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not really sure who they were submitted by < 1445380679 100547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's probably ais523_, because it looks like a bit of paper is sticking out there at the end. < 1445380724 575416 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445380765 395200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bøhily < 1445380808 25113 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjân. < 1445380819 86167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening, Alexandre. < 1445380897 880953 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening, Shachaf. < 1445380918 753011 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is your first name Shachaf?) < 1445380972 738314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chronologically? < 1445381010 658295 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ornithologically. < 1445381033 476015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now you gotta write a higgledy-piggledy with that word hth < 1445381110 994795 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what pigs have to do with ornithology < 1445381125 31746 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. pigs fly. they are birds. < 1445381139 910708 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, that's an excellent point. < 1445381160 896296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can make it slightly risqué by talking about ornithology and melittology < 1445381195 674934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drones < 1445381196 607363 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1445381208 330855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone < 1445381209 883779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1445381222 358741 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, plural handling... right < 1445381268 773277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does "Kiki" mean anything twh < 1445381303 242909 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone sex < 1445381304 250818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drone sex has never been observed in the wild; in fact it's rare to see drones in their natural habitat because they are extremely shy. Experiments with drones in captivity have only resulted in broken drones, and a rotor stuck in the ceiling. We are still looking for a biological explanation for the ever increasing drone population. < 1445381331 344176 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bona fide melittology < 1445381350 322948 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where does one learn such words...) < 1445381355 761775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki_(gathering) hth < 1445381366 826890 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you read a lexicon... < 1445381395 778779 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1445381398 482746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :encyclopedia < 1445381419 950976 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexicon's a false friend there. < 1445381439 222438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in norwegian too < 1445381476 482263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tdnh < 1445381488 881854 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Flock_of_Seagulls < 1445381568 640128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (where does one learn such words...) <-- i think that one came up on the iwc forum, and may or may not have transfered here from there < 1445381593 89539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was going to ask if johan means anything but i suppose it does < 1445381596 11983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spent plenty of time in his childhood reading the encyclopedia
< 1445381603 182796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're willing to follow enough convoluted links < 1445381635 293865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is from hebrew hth < 1445382009 387036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1445382017 557966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445382758 982784 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"SCHOLASTIC CHICKEN" < 1445382759 197234 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1445383018 510151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: based on the logs, are you still biking in traffic, and if so, WHY? < 1445383125 402683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had his parent-encouraged attempt to start biking in trondheim quickly crushed by the bike getting damaged by the train trip.
< 1445383125 955764 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm home < 1445383242 835752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is _very_ good at never getting things fixed
< 1445383319 130988 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( We put the "pro" into procrastination. ) < 1445383352 570680 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION folds into bed
< 1445383394 12853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: my dad tried giving me a self-help book for that < 1445383428 918696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you couldn't be bothered to read it? < 1445383461 151021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it still on your to-read pile of books? < 1445383466 482714 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has such a pile.
< 1445383489 597937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm pretty sure that book was in a pile i threw out < 1445383498 366368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bike's... uh, come one, what's the word. The thing you steer it with. The handlebars! Those. So those are still at a 90-degree angle (as in, the bar is parallel to the direction of travel, not the normal perpendicular orientation) from being compactly packed in the moving shipment, even though that was back in February or March or something. < 1445383548 475509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/one/on/ < 1445383549 754877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, when did http://www.structuredprocrastination.com/ get a "modern" look? it used to be possible to just start reading that page without having to scroll down... < 1445383579 690628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i guess it happened some time when he had something more important to do hth < 1445383596 250295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think the image should scroll, but at a slower rate compared to the text; the parallax thing is even more modern than the fixed image. < 1445383601 974799 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the photograph of the author at the beach is gone :/ < 1445383619 294501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes so from vaguely remembering last it was mentioned
< 1445383628 177666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The top bar is doing a sufficiently modern thing with all this autohiding and fading stuff, at least. < 1445383633 989959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :structured destruction < 1445383672 310859 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok, it doesn't do that without javascript < 1445383773 278916 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, the tethercat principle doesn't apply to my bike rides. < 1445383787 495112 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, it's way too cold outside. it was M04 yesterday morning! < 1445383800 582776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and please, please tell me that CSS3 doesn't actually allow parrallax scrolling (without javascript) < 1445383803 581336 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\hellhomeren\! < 1445383843 731357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: As far as I can tell, the intended effect is to (animatedly) hide when you scroll down, and the reverse when you scroll up, plus also apply a fade such that the bar is blue when the top of the screen is fully in the content area, fully transparent when the page is scrolled to the top, and something in-between for the intermediate positions. < 1445383860 596232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my question was meant generally, not for this specific season hth < 1445383912 63091 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, during summer I bike in traffic. there are even bike jams on some bikelanes. < 1445383928 905048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1445383929 870732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: In fact, seems that it does, through the "CSS Transforms" module. < 1445383936 790159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves his helmet
< 1445383939 122105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tvtropes has got more annoying ads lately... < 1445383945 55032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://drafts.csswg.org/css-transforms/#perspective and so on. < 1445383984 505812 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1445384013 436588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's someone's demo at http://keithclark.co.uk/articles/pure-css-parallax-websites/demo1/ < 1445384098 857390 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh... < 1445384101 128086 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, and you have to make do with the construction work, rampant potholes, hipsters, orange cones and burning astral balls of hydrogen. < 1445384123 567454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: whoa whoa whoa, this is great < 1445384142 566466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that front page has a big useless image, choppy scrolling, everything i could want < 1445384144 19396 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot that's impressive. < 1445384144 196358 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: multicolor color registers 53287-53294, d027-d02e). this is done by placing a value of the volume register. this bit register. < 1445384160 327751 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: multicolor color? < 1445384160 504695 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a=64 or 32: poke v+21 and the number ( ai, a2, a3). < 1445384355 109231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm not entirely familiar with the last one < 1445384455 995989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Shorthand for "color registers for the multicolor mode", because the two colours of the "monochrome" mode have registers too, I think. < 1445384472 52582 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk. < 1445384491 626903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Where's the palette for the sprites? < 1445384491 804059 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 20 data 5,6,7,8 the < 1445384502 664287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Thanks. < 1445384502 841419 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: save ( in our example, run it. < 1445384525 967651 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't parenthesave. < 1445384526 181516 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: note that only the beginning of vic. this means that interrupts from this register is dumped into the y position... these tell the vic-ii chip to the screen, the < 1445384758 544088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes one wonder if a really patient person could learn how to program the C64 from this style. < 1445384785 661697 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sbbhtycazvkyzeec JOIN :#esoteric < 1445384901 311640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps by sampling sufficiently much to reconstruct the ngram frequencies, then trying to manually piece together fragments of the text. < 1445384945 270163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-79.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1445385038 82160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds *.doubleclick.net to the limited sites list
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