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00:32:25 <fizzie> izabera: In oerjan's graph problem form, your example would have (among others) the nodes aba and bab, and the edges aba -> bab, bab -> aba, and it would be "obvious" the cycle goes aba -> bab -> aba -> ..., because there are no other out-edges from bab (unlike aba, which has the aba -> bac edge from the piece "abac").
00:33:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Deque]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45258&oldid=44856 * Hppavilion1 * (+3702) Improved page, going to add more operations soon
00:33:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Deque]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45259&oldid=45258 * Hppavilion1 * (-2) Header error
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00:36:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Deque]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45261&oldid=45260 * Hppavilion1 * (-1) Typo
00:39:02 <oerjan> izabera: put differently, you cannot get bab as the first element in a new cycle because the first element should already be in the path you've already collected, and that cannot happen.
00:39:52 <fizzie> (If coalescing nodes with a single in-edge and out-edge, the example graph would be nodes {aba, aca} and the labeled edges {aba -(ababa)-> aba, aba -(abaca)-> aca, aca -(acaca)-> aca}.)
00:40:59 <boily> quinthellopiaaaAAAAAAAAA!
00:41:25 <oerjan> or wait, i see what you mean, this is only at startup
00:42:06 <oerjan> yes, you could in fact get a cycle when you start that cannot be in the whole, if not careful.
00:43:01 <oerjan> izabera: the simplest fix is to detect the starting node by finding the unique node that has more outgoing than ingoing edges
00:43:15 <oerjan> and start building from there
00:43:52 <izabera> what if more than one exist?
00:44:50 <oerjan> all nodes except two have the same number of outgoing and ingoing edges
00:46:49 <oerjan> it must, if there's actually a unique path containing all edges exactly once
00:47:22 <oerjan> because any edge with more out than in can _only_ be at the start, and vice versa
00:49:58 <izabera> why does it have to contain all the edges exactly once?
00:50:14 <izabera> it must contains every vertex exactly once
00:50:27 <oerjan> the edges are the pieces given
00:52:04 <oerjan> (of course two edges may have the same string, that's what repetition means)
00:52:45 <boily> . o O (...ababababababababab... )
00:52:51 <izabera> i was thinking about the dual
00:52:52 <oerjan> hm oh, that's a bit contradictory
00:53:11 <oerjan> there isn't a unique path if you distinguish edges with the same string
00:53:29 <oerjan> because you could obviously switch their places
00:54:02 <oerjan> so there's actually a unique path of _nodes_, using each edge once
00:54:26 <oerjan> (but where nodes may be repeated)
01:00:28 <boily> hellørjan. do you read Dresden Codak?
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01:10:54 <shachaf> oerjan: oh, you left :'-lens #(
01:11:31 <oerjan> how can i stand a channel like that, unlogged? that's madness.
01:11:48 <shachaf> just ignore what people say when you're not around
01:12:09 <oerjan> that's also madness hth
01:13:57 <boily> . o O (...bababababababab *ZGRNGNGN* abababababab...)
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01:20:11 <\oren\> the goppers are having a debate in 40 minutes
01:20:42 <pikhq> I don't know who will win, but I know I will lose.
01:22:03 <boily> \helloren\, pikhelloq.
01:22:29 <oerjan> fizzie: reading the logs, i am shocked to discover that the europarl style isn't proper utf8 tdnh
01:22:46 <pikhq> GOPper -- one who is a member of the Grand Old Party, the younger of the two major US political parties.
01:23:12 <\oren\> gopper : a GOP person-dude
01:23:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[$tonePits]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45262&oldid=40544 * 71.94.244.146 * (-7)
01:23:25 <pikhq> It's really humorous it has that name, really.
01:24:08 <oerjan> at least the democratic party is no longer the clearly least democratic
01:24:58 <pikhq> Well, it is the opposition to the Federalist party...
01:25:04 <shachaf> pikhq: are you running for president twh
01:25:26 <pikhq> I am not of age to be President, unfortunately.
01:26:08 <boily> right, our Southern Neighbours still have to elect a President.
01:26:21 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: hm if you want to pick out extremes at both sides. but what if you want the middle option (i'm imagining the Priority Deque used in politics, here)
01:26:30 <shachaf> pikhq: maybe we could get an amendment in by next year
01:26:33 <boily> ours is doing well, if I may say so.
01:26:43 <coppro> boily: our head of state or head of government?
01:26:50 <hppavilion[1]> What operations does a Queue have in addition to ENQUEUE, DEQUEUE, and ROLL?
01:26:54 <pikhq> I think you'd have a better shot at letting non-native Americans take the job.
01:27:39 <pikhq> I mean, at one point there was enough people who would support Schwarzenegger as President.
01:27:43 <coppro> pikhq: lol the 27th amendment
01:27:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Queue]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45263&oldid=45257 * Hppavilion1 * (+231) One new operation
01:28:09 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: SIT and FETCH hth
01:28:11 <pikhq> Oh, that one? Hah.
01:29:32 <boily> coppro: head of gov.
01:31:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[Yamini]]": Spam: content was: "Yamini, the hand model. The intelligent, the idiot, and the one that annoys the crap out of everyone. The world ended on October 16th,2000. Her name is pronounced YEA..." (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/B0811|B0811]]")
01:33:10 <coppro> boily: yeah, he's doing pretty great
01:35:14 <boily> DISTUPGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAADE!!! ♪
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01:35:54 <pikhq> You people with your ineffectual heads of state.
01:36:08 <coppro> our head of state is far from ineffectual
01:36:13 <oerjan> actually that was probably more gibberish than spam. how long should i block for?
01:36:15 <coppro> she just doesn't have much to do
01:36:29 <coppro> she's very good at doing it
01:36:45 <pikhq> Let's go with "powerless".
01:36:50 <oerjan> (there was a phone number at the end, but i hesitate to call what preceded it an advertisement)
01:36:57 <tswett> Man, this language I'm creating is *so* going to be the next SQL.
01:37:09 <tswett> Look at this: "points where x > 3 each set x := 3"
01:37:23 <tswett> That's obviously far superior to "update points set x = 3 where x > 3".
01:37:30 <oerjan> i can only conclude none of you have a clue. where _is_ ais523...
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01:38:07 <oerjan> well that is plausible, although not proven
01:38:29 <pikhq> Also, fuck this jet lag so much
01:38:33 <tswett> Okay, that's sort of an unconvincing example.
01:39:19 <tswett> Want to delete everyone who owns a house? "houses.owner.delete"
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01:39:41 <pikhq> My brain is basically on UTC+1 while my reality is on UTC-8.
01:39:44 <tswett> Compare the SQL equivalent:
01:40:09 <tswett> "delete from people where id in (select owner_id from houses)"
01:40:40 <tswett> I'm taking advantage of two things that SQL doesn't.
01:40:53 <tswett> In many cases, you can treat the act of deletion as if it were just a column.
01:41:34 <tswett> "select (delete this row from the "people" table) from people, houses where people.id = houses.owner_id"
01:42:02 <tswett> And second, having a foreign key column that's just an integer, and then doing a join with another table whenever you want to look up the values associated with that foreign key, is stupid.
01:42:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Oerjan * blocked [[User:B0811]] with an expiry time of 1 week (account creation disabled): Intimidating behavior/harassment
01:42:37 <tswett> Here's how SQL gets all people who own houses: "select people.id from people, houses where people.id = houses.owner_id"
01:42:40 * oerjan makes a random decision
01:43:09 <tswett> You really ought to just be able to take a row in the "houses" table and perform an indexing operation on it to get the corresponding row in the "people" table.
01:43:26 <tswett> Hence, my equivalent of "select people.id from people, houses where people.id = houses.owner_id" is "houses.owner".
01:45:30 <hppavilion[1]> Here's the spec I'm working on for Getchl: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing
01:46:40 <hppavilion[1]> It's a weird tangled mess. Hard to understand fully. Definitely eso.
01:47:32 <hppavilion[1]> (Before someone comments "But x language is a weird tangled mess that's hard to understand fully, and /it/ isn't eso" I would like to say that yes, langauge x /is/, as a matter of fact, eso, it just also happens to be in circulation making it not /seem/ eso)
01:49:06 <HackEgo> [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER]
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01:51:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Stack]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45264&oldid=45254 * Hppavilion1 * (+4) Fixed See Also section
01:52:11 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: how can you be editing the wiki when i cannot load it
01:52:46 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Is there only one server, or are there a few worldwide?
01:53:19 <hppavilion[1]> Well it doesn't seem to be sending the edit through, really
01:53:20 <oerjan> it's on the same server as HackEgo
01:53:54 <hppavilion[1]> Then again, I guess HackEgo was taking less computational power than the wiki
01:54:09 <oerjan> the same thing happened to me when i did the block, HackEgo announced it but the page never loaded. oh there it did.
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01:56:32 <oerjan> fizzie: oh it's worse than that, fungot's europarl style actually spits out utf8 replacement chars
01:56:32 <fungot> oerjan: " poweropen" sounds like you're an alien in a non-distributed operating system deserves better. except in very rare instances, you
01:57:24 <hppavilion[1]> I just counted, and Getchl practically has 103 commands. It uses only the printable ascii characters, and each command is one character. Think about that.
01:57:41 <hppavilion[1]> (Not all the letter commands do anything yet though)
01:58:21 <hppavilion[1]> (also, nothing is assigned to |, and ~ is subject to change because its current meaning is stupid)
01:58:37 <zzo38> Add control character too then if you would need such a things.
02:00:00 <hppavilion[1]> You can technically execute a control character though by pushing its value on the stack then calling ` (the Apply/Eval command)
02:01:19 * hppavilion[1] totally isn't trying to get people to click that link so that he can get feedback
02:01:36 <hppavilion[1]> Nope, no need for others' comments on my work here. xD.
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03:07:03 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_i_L%C3%B6nneberga
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03:09:10 <\oren\> The IRS, the Department of Commercs, the department of Energy, the department of Commerce, and the HUD.
03:14:03 <pikhq> The Department of Commerce does not-much, and what it does is important.
03:14:16 <pikhq> It has a budget of $60 billion.
03:14:32 <pikhq> But it's got one of the few things the government is obligated to do: the census.
03:14:40 <pikhq> Also, the NOAA and the patent office.
03:16:35 <oerjan> shachaf: of course i remember emil, what about him
03:16:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Nikoraito]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45265 * 173.169.59.42 * (+170) Created page with "Nikoraito is a pretty alright guy. He's working on 3var-x, a reverse-compatible dialect of 3var with a number of useful additional features including file io and a shell."
03:16:56 <shachaf> wasn't there a thing where he got a thing stuck on his head?
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03:19:18 <\oren\> we might want to point out to
03:19:32 <\oren\> Trump that China isn't in the TPP
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03:20:15 <shachaf> oerjan: was there a thing with a mousetrap under the table?
03:20:20 <shachaf> or am i mixing up different things now
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03:20:47 <oerjan> well i don't remember all of the stories
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03:21:38 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_and_the_Detectives
03:22:11 <oerjan> no, i had never heard of that author until some german in this channel mentioned him
03:22:29 <shachaf> i thought this latter emil was much more famous
03:22:39 <oerjan> not in norway, for sure
03:22:45 <oerjan> well not when i grew up
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04:12:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Microscript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45267&oldid=45193 * Oerjan * (-92) sp, wikify
04:20:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Stare/1.0]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45268&oldid=44278 * Oerjan * (+6) links, grm
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04:42:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[Capricorn]]": Stub with no context and nothing to find with Google (OK, I'm not sure about the Japanese hits)
04:50:42 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[DeafPig]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45270&oldid=44208 * Oerjan * (+51) wikify
04:54:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Object-oriented]] to [[Object-oriented paradigm]]: As suggested on talk page
04:54:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Talk:Object-oriented]] to [[Talk:Object-oriented paradigm]]: As suggested on talk page
04:56:57 <oerjan> damn wiki locked up again
04:58:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Category:Object-oriented paradigm]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45275&oldid=7967 * Oerjan * (+0) expand link
04:59:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Object-oriented paradigm]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45276&oldid=45273 * Oerjan * (+90) Done
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06:06:17 <hppavilion[1]> OVER = SAVE POP RIGHT SAVE POP PUSH LEFT PUSH RIGHT PUSH RETRIEVE LEFT RETRIEVE
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13:08:39 <izabera> http://arin.ga/1fGHbJ/raw this is a prefix calculator for this challenge https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/7/
13:08:48 <izabera> but something stupid must be wrong
13:09:07 <izabera> help me find a test case that fails :|
13:20:54 <b_jonas> izabera: maybe you're doing the division backwards? the spec doesn't really say
13:23:21 <b_jonas> izabera: maybe try + 0 0 or + 0 10 in case the gcd routine gets confused by zeros
13:27:06 <izabera> - is not supposed to be supported
13:27:33 <izabera> i forgot i didn't implement - on purpose
13:31:03 <FreeFull> * * 3 4 / 10 5 seems to produce the expected result
13:33:07 <izabera> it produces 1 which is correct?
13:34:27 <FreeFull> But you're only rounding your rational down at the end, rather than after every division
13:35:05 <FreeFull> I'm not actually sure why you're using rationals
13:35:13 <izabera> "The evaluation result will always be an integer ≥ 0."
13:35:55 <izabera> i'm using rationals because this should be 10: + / 10 3 + / 10 3 / 10 3
13:36:27 <FreeFull> That challenge is expecting you to use integer division
13:36:39 <FreeFull> So it'd expect that to produce 9
13:37:38 <fizzie> That challenge, like so many of them, doesn't seem to specify very well what it's expecting.
13:38:13 <FreeFull> Yeah, it could be specified better
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13:42:55 <izabera> so * 2 / 1 2 is either 0 or 2
13:49:59 <FreeFull> That's because you're using rationals internally while this challenge expected you to use integers
13:50:51 <FreeFull> It probably also expects division to round towards 0
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14:07:50 <izabera> why is the logo 3 lemons slices? (did i ask this already?)
14:08:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Imapl]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45284&oldid=45283 * 179.105.145.107 * (+7) /* Execution: */
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16:00:36 <puckipedia> hmm, does anyone know of any esolang interpreters written in Z-Machine bytecode or Glulx?
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16:05:32 <puckipedia> rule (TBA): If it exists, there is a brainfuck interpreter for it
16:06:02 <puckipedia> let's make a brainfuck interpreter for the Z-machine
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16:27:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Imapl]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45290 * SuperJedi224 * (+139) Created page with "Why exactly would Imapl be uncomputable? ~~~~"
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16:48:09 <oerjan> <izabera> why is the logo 3 lemons slices? (did i ask this already?) <-- they're not, they're limes. and i think they were a pretty random choice by graue, the original wiki maintainer. i once made a sub-lime pun but someone else then ran it so into the ground that even i got sick of it.
16:48:59 <shachaf> hmm, that's pretty into the ground
16:50:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Imapl]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45291&oldid=45288 * Lemon enthusiast * (-86)
16:50:32 <izabera> that was more cryptic than most eso langs
16:51:15 <Taneb> oerjan, I think the reasons of why the logo is 3 lime slices seems to be only known within an enlightened circle
16:51:24 <Taneb> I guess you could say that they're... esoteric
16:52:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Imapl]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45292&oldid=45291 * Lemon enthusiast * (-95) /* Etymology */
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17:21:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Lemon enthusiast]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45293&oldid=45289 * Lemon enthusiast * (+258)
17:24:50 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, would you say the limes are esoteric twh
17:26:43 <Taneb> "That would help" hth
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18:04:53 <zzo38> I know about Z-machine programming, I have written an interpreter too
18:09:14 <puckipedia> I find it a weird thing, it's not quite generic, but I might be able to put a LLVM backend together for it
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18:39:10 <int-e> ooh will we have a christmas bitcoin bubble?
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18:51:19 <int-e> maybe it'll burst december 31st... that would be fun.
18:58:14 <zzo38_> In case you would need my Zork Machine Interpreter/Debugger, it is: http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/interp/zorkmid.zip
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19:10:42 <zzo38> Do you know some of the Z-machine programming techniques such as Black-Johansen algorithm and SET->BCOM optimization?
19:16:35 <HackEgo> slocoin beatercoin oilcoin palagufcoin cholomscoin unwecoin contropitcoin velcoin tedcoin ethuttocoin enullcoin brentecoin frcmoecoin hackfllcycoin grucoin smihcoin argacoin iuscoin painstuencoin bfercoin
19:17:05 <quintopia> we'll have a christmas painsteuncoin bubble
19:44:28 <FreeFull> Today is the first time I've heard about Unicode named character escapes, such as \N{GREEK SMALL LETTER FINAL SIGMA}
19:51:43 <int-e> \N{';DROP TABLE Unicode;--}
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20:10:36 <HackEgo> [U+0020 SPACE] [U+2286 SUBSET OF OR EQUAL TO] [U+0020 SPACE]
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20:12:33 <int-e> I can't figure out whether the linguists meet once every 8 or once ever 18 months...
20:13:21 <FireFly> FreeFull: in what context do they appear? PCRE?
20:14:26 <FreeFull> FireFly: I think just as escapes in a string
20:14:55 <FreeFull> hppavilion[1]: How is ⊆ too thin with monospace?
20:15:16 <FireFly> Well, then, in what programming language?
20:17:20 <FreeFull> Python 3 too, although it doesn't support all of them
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20:44:34 <b_jonas> int-e: http://www.explainxkcd.com/
20:44:45 <b_jonas> (Explain xkcd: It's 'cause you're dumb.)
20:45:53 <int-e> I don't think I needed that explanation.
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21:18:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Getchl]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45294 * Hppavilion1 * (+559) Created Page
21:22:49 <hppavilion[1]> What should ~ and | do in Getchl? Currently ~ pops two values and pushes a random integer between them, but I don't like that
21:27:35 <fizzie> It's swap in underload, but maybe you already have that.
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22:02:41 <Walpurgisnacht> Almost finished with my Major so this Programming hobby will be going away
22:03:06 <Walpurgisnacht> Kinda makes me sad But I chose the medical field can't turn back now
22:03:50 <Walpurgisnacht> Medical Science is a stranger field Than programming I guess And the market for programming is over saturated as I've seen
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23:00:57 <oerjan> <int-e> maybe it'll burst december 31st... that would be fun. <-- that looked pretty bursting right now.
23:03:52 <boily> fungot: do you burst?
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23:04:17 * boily pats the 'got. “Good got”
23:05:15 <fungot> olsner: lpr creates a printer or sitting around ready to lose sight of the conspiracy are pushing motif, posix, osi, next step in subroutine a just after that, but
23:09:22 <oerjan> what is this stupid trend with GUIs with incomprehensible icons without tooltips
23:09:41 * oerjan doesn't like to click icons that he has no idea what do
23:11:10 <oerjan> oh well, at least it showed a url
23:16:43 <int-e> . o O ( What's the wors that could happen? *runs* )
23:19:11 * olsner . o O ( Clicking the circle icon formats the hard drive. How is that not obvious? )
23:21:49 <boily> GUIs are evil. they Hide the True Meaning of Words.
23:22:22 * oerjan likes GUIs, otherwise :(
23:23:58 <oerjan> it's been four days since andrás kovács tempted me to get a github account, and i've already contributed to constraints, and am in this moment considering submitting a documentation change to ghc
23:24:13 <boily> repent your ways! Save Yourself! (unless the interface is made of nifty pixel art. I'm a sucker for small icons with bright colours.)
23:24:21 <oerjan> (yes, i know you're not supposed to send it to ghc@github
23:24:51 <boily> you really ought to githubaccountify. I could coconspirator you to the Wisdom repository :D
23:25:18 <oerjan> boily: um, the temptation was successful hth
23:26:01 <oerjan> which is why i'm currently setting phabricator preferences
23:26:13 <oerjan> (that's the site without tooltips)
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23:26:36 <boily> by the way, what's your username?
23:26:59 <oerjan> that's the nice thing with having a weirdly spelled nick, it's almost always free
23:27:51 <fizzie> oerjan: I'm not sure I can support a site that has a "conpherence" function for chatting.
23:27:51 <oerjan> (technically it was registered when i came to freenode, but luckily it was beyond ask-for-takeover threshold)
23:28:08 <oerjan> fizzie: well it's ph all the way, surely
23:28:27 <fizzie> "Diffusion" seems to not be a "diphphusion".
23:28:40 <oerjan> oh and this is phabricator.haskell.org, in case there's any ambiguity
23:28:40 <fizzie> I'm going by the screenshot on the front page.
23:29:21 <fizzie> (My nickname is almost always taken. *sad*)
23:29:31 <boily> oerjan: you are hereby collaboratified.
23:30:16 <fizzie> On github, "fizzie" seems to be someone who does absolutely nothing publicly visible with the account.
23:30:22 <fizzie> Perhaps it's all private repos for them.
23:30:35 <oerjan> boily: is this the right time to admit i've never opened wisdom.pdf?
23:31:37 <shachaf> you're either wisdom or you're againstdom, oerjan
23:32:18 <oerjan> fizzie: i think dipphusion would be more intuitive
23:32:47 <boily> oerjan: you are evil. of course you never opened it.
23:33:00 <oerjan> i knew you'd understand </lie>
23:33:33 <fizzie> That reminds me of some dialog systems in some games.
23:33:45 <fizzie> They have tags like "[Lie] X" for conversation options.
23:34:23 <fizzie> I remember at least one that had "X" and "[Lie] X" for the same X, and X was not something the game system could possibly observe, because it was about your motivations.
23:35:01 <fizzie> It was somewhat confusing, because you could lie about lying by selecting the untagged "X"
23:37:31 <boily> this feels very topological. you can lie, or not lie, about something unobservable.
23:40:34 <zzo38> But then possibly you might not know your motivation quite yet though?
23:42:44 <boily> polymorphic motivation.
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23:51:17 <Sgeo> Why does the number 8388608 feel so... unspecial?
23:51:42 <Sgeo> It's 2^23, the point at which the next 32-bit floating point number above it is +1
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