< 1447286457 571283 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1447286459 918511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, 16777216 feels very special. Maybe just because it's more things. < 1447286493 772092 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the number of colors many devices are marketed to support < 1447286530 348257 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1447286538 56428 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about 1073741824? < 1447286568 990346 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess it's 2^30 but I don't really recognize it. < 1447286569 717637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take out the middle six digits, you get 1024 < 1447286574 61405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 2^30 < 1447286606 638642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I see it's about 10^9 and starts with approximately 1072, so that's plausible.) < 1447286638 986356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^31 < 1447286640 541427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2147483648 < 1447286713 892305 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447286745 263307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pow2 < 1447286745 536975 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ... < 1447286816 57846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: When it's not called just "millions of colors". < 1447286884 601703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447287470 172592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523! < 1447287497 641081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: long time no see < 1447287530 768967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've been ill < 1447287544 655461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anything come up that I need to deal with? < 1447287697 347500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds nasty < 1447287715 115603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for two weeks, i mean < 1447287767 567189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there was a weird spammer who didn't really spam a link, so i wanted to ask you how long to ban them < 1447287783 671642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think i chose a week just to be weird) < 1447287792 480488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you're Agora Speaker hth < 1447287850 387451 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hai. < 1447287889 815379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall anything else you were too needed for < 1447287895 603835 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1447287990 335112 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.148 QUIT :Quit: Toodaloo < 1447288691 219825 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447289010 869927 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhelloq, hppavellon[1]. < 1447289309 587004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447289369 148099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447289632 684414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right... if I have 4 vectors, I can construct a vector space of degree at most four with some subset of them as the basis < 1447289677 948924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If in 4 dimensional space, I put a vertex at (1, 0, 0, 0), (0, 1, 0, 0), etc... < 1447289687 39340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I form a tetrahedron from those vertices? < 1447289689 579376 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can < 1447289705 86164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/degree/dimension/ < 1447289709 786616 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1447289715 467913 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those vertices are also linearly dependent < 1447289775 395959 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, my question is, "how do I tell if two lines are coplanar in an arbitrarily high-dimensional euclidean space?" < 1447289825 651610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x+y+z+w = 1 in 4-dimensional space is a representation of 3d projective space < 1447289912 837245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that doesn't give an isometry < 1447289926 596407 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to know if the volume is zero or not < 1447289946 124433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right... < 1447290111 463182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the lines are given by 4 points, then you take the vectors from one of them to the other and check if they span a 3d space < 1447290120 807210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to the others < 1447290163 623322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use gram-schmidt for this. < 1447290327 262484 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Gram-Schmidt took a set of vectors already known to be linearly independent < 1447290361 603326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily. < 1447290370 188627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also test them < 1447290392 529597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you get 0 vector at any step, that vector was redundant with the previous) < 1447290422 771589 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handly, here's a Gram-Schmidt I prepared earlier: http://lpaste.net/131499 < 1447290426 902227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can I form a tetrahedron from those vertices? < 1447290443 181606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you define a tetrahedron, sometimes < 1447290458 425579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's one in the morning, cut me some slack < 1447290510 717749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's the simplex definition < 1447290518 310585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm i guess that doesn't give an isometry < 1447290530 161394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :projective space... doesn't have a metric, does it? < 1447290538 832860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess < 1447290549 646203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the non-finite points do, naturally < 1447290557 234683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you can put a metric on it but the resulting geometry will be nonsense < 1447290566 280231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (0,0,0,1) becomes an infinite one < 1447290617 567175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1447290618 233057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : x+y+z+w = 1 in 4-dimensional space is a representation of 3d projective space < 1447290639 895025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: homogeneous coordinates, no? < 1447290642 32906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it isn't < 1447290644 260056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(normalized to 1) < 1447290651 409514 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's homeomorphic to R^3 < 1447290663 87663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1447290680 579211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :w = 0 are infinite points < 1447290686 642125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooh, I came up with a new esolang too while I was gone < 1447290693 902695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't documented it yet but I have an interp < 1447290696 542408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a moment < 1447290699 872190 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, it is < 1447290703 101739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be easy enough to document, seeing as it's a tarpit < 1447290706 647410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i was wrong about (0,0,0,1), it's the only one which is _finite_ < 1447290717 834525 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eeng < 1447290725 491260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x,y,z) = (x,y,z,-x-y-z) is a homeomorphism < 1447290763 536275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here: http://nethack4.org/esolangs/threestar.c < 1447290816 803404 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are some deeply nested pointers < 1447290822 587381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, x=y=z=0 is not into the right set < 1447290844 608084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1447290848 762218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-x-y-z < 1447290880 490407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's a hyperplane in R^4 < 1447290882 614563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know < 1447290885 238497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1447290885 387078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even compact for christ's sake < 1447290892 544231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1447290904 963760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was originally using a void**** but it doesn't work, you do genuinely need the void***** if you're writing the program like that < 1447290964 979650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's x+y+z+w=0 that's the infinite subwhatever < 1447291008 310594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still not homeomorphic to projective space for the same reasons < 1447291035 622260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to have to take a quotient at some point, i'll bet < 1447291168 700115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway taneb was just trying to find if two lines were coplanar! < 1447291194 955856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't two lines coplanar if and only if a) they intersect, or b) they're parallel? < 1447291205 384295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1447291222 458771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so while i'm sure there's a nice general method it's easy to just check each case individually < 1447291246 875266 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm trying to find the intersection, or more precisely, when I can find the intersections < 1447291264 344266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that's even easier, you're just solving simultaneous equations < 1447291283 858538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GUESS < 1447291311 75226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i need to sleep stop getting me into geometry arguments you bastards < 1447291345 388723 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I was just rambling about my overcomplicated beginning of a solution to a problem which I never actually stated < 1447291448 727215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not in 4d space < 1447291464 581177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1447291476 692350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is cursed to be wrong today < 1447291504 877402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed just today? or maybe for the rest of your life... < 1447291519 778105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's true regardless of dimension count, but I'm not 100% certain, 4D visualisation is weird < 1447291567 734562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no i realized that there's always a containing 3d space so 4d doesn't give anything extra < 1447291590 382363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1447291982 582220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45296&oldid=45293 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-258) 10 < 1447292484 695024 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads a scroll of remove curse at oerjan < 1447292544 27666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You feel like someone is helping you"? < 1447292665 279733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You feel as if something is helping you". < 1447292704 717038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1447292888 172060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SHATTERED CHICKEN < 1447293007 374265 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. One of my friends had his girlfriend break up with him and now he's depressed and contemplating suicide. < 1447293078 974720 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would advise strongly that he doesn't. < 1447293087 615591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did too. < 1447293100 373574 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent 30 minutes trying to comfort him and got nowhere. < 1447293124 501355 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up. He's stressing me out. I'm going to go back to programming to distract myself now. < 1447293154 918370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], suggest he talk to a therapist/call a hotline? < 1447293172 374652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Tried that. < 1447293175 915000 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no < 1447293178 914440 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Tried that. < 1447293190 284588 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how did THAT happen?) < 1447293225 719241 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He agreed that he needs a shrink. He looked like he was feeling better for a bit, then he dropped back down < 1447293232 933443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't have dumped this out here < 1447293314 578466 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1447293458 923999 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any particular name for the operation 2^floor(log_2 x)? < 1447293492 537826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, there might be < 1447293532 354767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an incomplete list of names for that sort of thing here, just checking it now < 1447293599 653696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that specific one isn't there, but it's "isolate highest set bit" by analogy with "isolate lowest set bit" < 1447293826 131594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45297&oldid=45280 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2081) 10/* Additional Operations */ Stack on the back, PAD and REVPAD < 1447293859 489621 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"round down to the nearest power of 2"? < 1447293868 936723 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy with my catalogue of deque operations < 1447293941 419818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deque14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45298&oldid=45297 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+8) 10/* Operations */ Formatting < 1447294028 859809 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a deque basically a linked list? < 1447294062 929509 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :A doubly-linked list is one way to implement a deque < 1447294172 2187 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fueue is a cool language < 1447294202 135074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's a stack/queue hybrid, if that's what you're asking (though I have a feeling you already knew) < 1447294239 378031 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that page < 1447294243 664768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: doubly-linked lists are a common way to implement a deque, but not the only one < 1447294281 160973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you can also use a ring buffer that is reconstructed larger when it becomes full, or two stacks where, if a stack is empty and you try to pop it, you reverse the other stack onto the empty stack < 1447294321 432820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the two stacks method is one that I find very useful for implementing queues in esolangs that only have stacks, and then to BCT, in order to prove turing-completeness; it actually gives you a full deque but I normally only care about the queue subset of the behaviour) < 1447294327 683126 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some sense stack/queue/deque are abstract whereas a linked-list is concrete < 1447294356 548265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], thanks! It's the language I'm most proud of < 1447294368 116885 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! You made that! Cool! < 1447294372 69947 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is BCT ? < 1447294376 317349 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I say... Queuel? < 1447294380 635395 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1447294383 391535 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I should not, because that would be stupid. < 1447294420 713056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Your middle-last name looks like "Von Doom" with proper kerning < 1447294426 131971 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], yes < 1447294426 290061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, but that's so... unmathylike < 1447294433 432301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that is true < 1447294456 962500 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it's just my last name, the "van" is part of the surname. For reference, my middle name is George) < 1447294469 973327 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Deque has push, pop, shift and unshift. what if you had push pop and shift only? < 1447294501 642418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: BCT = bitwise cyclic tag < 1447294513 35346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a specific concrete instance of cyclic tag, which is a mathematical language-class < 1447294530 828114 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I believe they are push, pop, eject, and inject < 1447294537 389716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cyclic tag is, in my experience, the easiest TC language to implement in arbitrary esolangs < 1447294567 357236 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not shift and unshift (which I assume are ROLLs, which can be implemented using Push, Pop, Eject, and Inject and a scalar accumulator (though you clobber the accumulator)) < 1447294577 132763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there a cyclic tag / bct compiler into BF yet? there should be, it's easy < 1447294582 317416 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: some languages call them different things, I'm using the names from Perl < 1447294588 220816 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Ah < 1447294590 859500 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/shift.html < 1447294613 862808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can do three out of the four operations with a singly linked list < 1447294629 833458 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to come up with a better name for DequeCLI... < 1447294651 925299 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ToD&IA&SA-CLI? xD < 1447294663 81815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to discard either shift or pop but you can implement the three others with just single-linking pointers and separate pointers to /both/ ends < 1447294681 223012 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1447294681 371637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], one of my friends once wrote a program that extracted data from .drs files (which are used in some video game... age of empires, maybe?) < 1447294691 112237 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :He narrowly avoided calling it drsextractor < 1447294697 963180 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1447294713 980444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's amazing < 1447294746 146999 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like DequeCLI (or whatever its final name is) because I can define operations like DUP < 1447294753 487070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be more amazing if he'd noticed and decided to use the name nayway < 1447294775 275288 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sadly he is not the kind of person who would do that < 1447294795 19850 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I do math out loud here? 2048 = 2^11, 2^(11-23) = 2^-12; < 1447294795 205268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUP is SAVE POP PUSH PUSH RETRIEVE. SAVE and RETREIVE are optional, if you don't mind clobbering the accumulator < 1447294831 695378 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, that seems correct so far < 1447294902 90699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if a thing needs to be going half that distance in a frame, minimum meters per frame = 2^-13. Times 45 frames per second ~= 0.0055 mps < 1447294916 448650 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lower at smaller fps < 1447294955 204506 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be easier to keep looking at my mpf calculation and have my measurement tool print measured minimum mpf < 1447294994 665324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that number looks really really wrong based on prior measurements, but those are indirect < 1447295059 937579 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447295248 21266 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Measured attempted minimum velocity: -0.005553 < 1447295445 702570 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1447295532 80512 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My measured meters per frame is slightly higher than expected, wonder if I'm not quite measuring right < 1447296173 130620 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@206.174.0.58 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447296391 724544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45299&oldid=44894 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+166) 10 < 1447297420 299398 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447297524 749678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45300&oldid=45299 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-46) 10/* Instructions */ < 1447297676 38869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45301&oldid=45300 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-68) 10 < 1447297685 152517 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHould I be happy that my math based on my theories sort of match up with what I measured, or upset that it's not more exact? < 1447297693 173207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what sort of error these measurements have < 1447297863 929157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript II14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45302&oldid=45238 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+130) 10 < 1447298031 12465 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45303&oldid=45301 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+65) 10 < 1447298063 281191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BotEngine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45304&oldid=45303 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+0) 10 < 1447298279 107343 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447298483 577135 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447298669 59539 :Froox!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447298742 868547 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtashhbqzfayyoli JOIN :#esoteric < 1447298854 564035 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447298976 145800 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447298989 187235 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447299013 703827 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447299279 755522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45305 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+2128) 10Created page with "**Merucik** is a Brainf*** derivative that adds some minor functionality to aid the programmer in coding. Merucik programs operator on a right-open, theoretically-unbound tape..." < 1447299358 747619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45306&oldid=45305 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+2) 10 < 1447299423 762592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45307&oldid=45149 5* 03Ais523 5* (+468) 10/* Page removal request */ for the record < 1447299443 56133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45308&oldid=45306 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+31) 10 < 1447299462 392995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Conor O'Brien14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45309&oldid=44906 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+25) 10/* Languages I have made */ < 1447299477 445291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45310&oldid=44771 5* 03Ais523 5* (+27) 10and a new one (let's edit a link in that I can follow to create the article, the old-fashioned way) < 1447299769 168275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45311&oldid=45308 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+281) 10/* Instructions */ < 1447299904 522101 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck extensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45312&oldid=43357 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+65) 10 < 1447300186 992259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Merucik14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45313&oldid=45311 5* 03Conor O'Brien 5* (+95) 10 < 1447300472 755163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447300513 413591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea < 1447300518 317074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A logical language < 1447300527 302406 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That recognizes logical fallacies < 1447300688 539073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Three Star Programmer14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45314 5* 03Ais523 5* (+4998) 10new language! < 1447300725 491708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45315&oldid=45158 5* 03Ais523 5* (+28) 10/* T */ +[[Three Star Programmer]] < 1447300799 904430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45316&oldid=34930 5* 03Ais523 5* (+28) 10/* See also */ +[[Three Star Programmer]] (maybe at this point this should be a category, instead of / in addition to a list?) < 1447300916 607527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I hope Three Star Programmer is TC; it feels like it is but it's a total pain to accomplish anything in < 1447300934 274513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is, it'd be the first OISC which has one-operand instructions and doesn't rely on memory mapping < 1447300987 283907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07OISC14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45317&oldid=45316 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* See also */ this list is apparently alphabetical, not asciibetical < 1447301263 83856 :Froox!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447301275 844162 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like some input on Getchl < 1447301298 42559 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing) < 1447301387 680684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Prove it! < 1447301408 250271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a pain to program in though < 1447301414 579783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I haven't managed to write /any/ nontrivial programs < 1447301432 512487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only have the vaguest idea of what one would look like < 1447301495 674997 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1447301559 355269 :Froo!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447301677 994341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRL, is 4km vertically a lot or not so much? < 1447301685 55825 :Froox!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1447301695 883562 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What scale are we on? < 1447301704 450229 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cosmically, no. < 1447301714 56958 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of quarks, yes. < 1447301723 896347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the surface of Earth, would 4km above the surface be outer space ish? < 1447301771 301949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line very much no < 1447301791 392816 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447301816 559812 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I believe 100 km is space < 1447301828 368239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the Wikipedia link, yes < 1447301828 844668 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no < 1447302128 617699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1447302237 973272 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: an obfuscated 3SP interpreter sounds like it'd make a reasonable IOCCC submission < 1447302261 455521 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although only if it turns out to actually be usable for programming, I suppose < 1447302261 640773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so long as you had an actual program to run it on < 1447302265 896645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1447302266 51318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1447302270 441489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I'm using the file extension .3* < 1447302275 372765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to drive Windows programmers mad < 1447302288 394637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's only mildly inconvenient on Linux, mostly having to add extra quotes, and making me do a double take when I see ls output) < 1447302293 938626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even tab completes correctly! < 1447302298 852154 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1447302383 122307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most likely it'll be fine even without escaping < 1447302469 271359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the program does not require any specific extension? (Even though it does say to use .3* at the top) < 1447302481 520686 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of interest, why the second and fourth cells for the output extension? < 1447302579 536519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Don't you have a color computer? < 1447302597 825135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it doesn't require a specific extension < 1447302603 514789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what do you mean by a color computer? < 1447302617 175220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it related to colorforth? < 1447302619 826087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Color terminal, I suppose < 1447302629 713026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :3sp? is that an esolang? < 1447302631 417272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I had a feeling that it might be possible to use only the even-numbered cells < 1447302637 55228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Three_Star_Programmer < 1447302641 194879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can use colors with ls < 1447302644 90911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just put it on the wiki today (designed it a few days ago when I was ill) < 1447302649 752845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh yes, color terminal, and I use colors with ls < 1447302655 545381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still confusing seeing asterisks in ls' output < 1447302674 80707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I put them there myself < 1447302679 485134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd do even more of a double-take seeing (escaped) asterisks when tab-completing < 1447302689 90323 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and feel a bit uneasy pressing enter < 1447302719 22881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 4km is a bit less than half the height of mount everest hth < 1447302748 895202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1447302842 4462 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447303377 493055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I seem to be able to observe "quantum" effects in SL somewhat comfortably at 4km < 1447306679 69284 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1447306833 615730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHEE https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/dc140b32c082ae38fd15 < 1447307092 304586 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You should make one where the array extends downward using my stupid x86 stack trick. < 1447307114 438101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you could just change increments to decrements, the language spec doesn't require any particular memory layout < 1447307127 364001 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that would work < 1447307237 171821 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447307241 876407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My next experiment, the one that I and a coworker am eagerly anticipating: What happens when minimum velocity imposed by the nature of floating-point numbers is near the maximum velocity arbitrarily imposed by the Lindens? < 1447307352 258233 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I make esoteric letters for a font? < 1447307354 700611 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should < 1447307361 208471 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eso Sans < 1447307415 834846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to use METAFONT to make up a font? < 1447307439 312987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fun part: In order to get to a point where this occurs, we will build a MASSIVE ROCKET < 1447307462 468768 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm using WalText II < 1447307582 849305 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Though I might make a METAFONT or something version so people can use it in reality < 1447307612 887087 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have such constructs as the 1.5 story g and the 3-humped B < 1447307657 519704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT is good for printer fonts. (It could be used for screen fonts too, although screen fonts are best made with a tile editor, in my opinion.) < 1447307673 96011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does WalText II work anyways? < 1447307953 194361 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does 'tile editor' entail? < 1447307990 4706 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447308221 226286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45318&oldid=41115 5* 03Nikoraito 5* (+965) 10/* Extensions */ new section < 1447308258 814430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45319&oldid=45318 5* 03Nikoraito 5* (+89) 10/* Extensions */ < 1447308363 730172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:3var14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45320&oldid=45319 5* 03Nikoraito 5* (+52) 10/* Extensions */ < 1447308622 608215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can select sets of tiles and make each pixel of each tile on/off; some more advanced ones may have additional operations too. < 1447308724 566954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tiles may also be created with a text editor and then compiled; some programs will do it this way.) < 1447309602 144603 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447309662 194258 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B (three story): Check < 1447309679 217364 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WalText II is kind of like METAFONT I've been told < 1447309706 88765 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree fonts for computers are best designed with pixels, so there's no blurriness < 1447309723 680346 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though in later versions, it's going to have a dynamic random number feature (allowing you to emulate human error in the font, making it look more realistic, less uncanny valley) < 1447310404 882145 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "C" looks like pac-man < 1447310420 345959 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should eso sans be monospace? < 1447310692 631966 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What do you think? < 1447310708 908914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not think about fonts hth < 1447310827 643172 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, was it you or \oren\ that's making the font? My recognition of names (and faces, though that doeesn't really come into play) is not very good < 1447311113 757539 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "m" is a mangled mess < 1447311133 375800 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like an h/m/~/() < 1447311228 878269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If WalText II is like METAFONT then depending on other stuff how it works, may be possible to compile WalText II fonts into TFM/PK formats; such file formats are simple enough to do. < 1447311561 245763 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It could very well be < 1447311576 835785 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WalText II is actually saved as JSON xD < 1447311745 357836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't a problem. < 1447311969 82924 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know < 1447312019 80603 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1447312294 916465 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1447312426 988073 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447312465 482934 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447312529 551387 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447313601 688064 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447313614 696514 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1447313614 845161 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1447313867 676507 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1447313896 114392 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447314310 966929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ARGH < 1447314354 455222 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1447314454 652943 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should go write a language specification in ultra-limited time < 1447314466 911189 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEW ESOLANG SPORT: UTLLD < 1447314481 42191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ultra time-limited language design) < 1447314485 364706 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1447314522 317893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much time limit? < 1447314532 37272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://esolangs.org/wiki/2014 was pretty time-limited < 1447314704 611297 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Depends on how hardcore the player is < 1447315346 449995 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1447315555 530191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deos anybody want to see eso sans yet? < 1447315831 594219 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1447316002 358784 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: WALRUS MAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1447316454 328500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Three Star Programmer14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45321&oldid=45314 5* 03Ais523 5* (+85) 10/* External resources */ link to where the name comes from < 1447319604 512994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meetings < 1447321530 782247 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447321736 601243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447322718 778240 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1447322752 586274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523! hello < 1447322755 763237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen you for weeks < 1447322761 903117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been ill < 1447322765 710326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still am to some extent < 1447322985 295315 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1447323406 32114 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447323930 787898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1447324014 412171 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447324079 33162 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1447324441 412931 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1447325083 155116 :andrew!~andrew@61.141.94.81 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1447325597 32694 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447325637 406574 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1447326606 53210 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1447328206 375761 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447329435 336297 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1447329637 848450 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1447329757 510943 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused by Han Unification < 1447330398 837294 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what type boily is, and what type Han Unification is, and whether it has any other effects apart from causing confusion < 1447330601 308502 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firellofly. I think I'm Canadian. < 1447330613 364621 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is mayonnaise an instrument?) < 1447330790 939021 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447330794 934831 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnarxel < 1447330830 484258 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnord < 1447330915 87402 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken. < 1447331043 677007 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Han Unification supereffective against Canadian? < 1447331299 822892 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :further research needs to be made for a conclusive conclusion. < 1447331321 606199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ZIGGURAT CHICKEN < 1447332675 486939 :andrew__!~andrew@14.152.94.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447332852 362344 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447332941 813074 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1447333118 260131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether Han Unification is in any way similar to AC Unification... < 1447333832 110629 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447334096 911398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447334551 443239 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447334583 378087 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447335070 158089 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full bridge rectifier < 1447335739 35111 :jaboja!~jaboja@ese139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1447336967 89733 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447337929 385572 :Froo!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1447338933 80367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45322&oldid=45290 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+624) 10 < 1447339080 394358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45323&oldid=45322 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+172) 10 < 1447339095 889446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45324&oldid=45323 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+2) 10 < 1447339140 321524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45325&oldid=45324 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-61) 10 < 1447339318 547336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45326&oldid=45292 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+0) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */ < 1447340495 319745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45327&oldid=45326 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+31) 10/* Execution: */ < 1447340497 565052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45328&oldid=45327 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+431) 10/* Computational class */ < 1447340639 905858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45329&oldid=45328 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+15) 10/* Computational class */ < 1447340926 733796 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45330&oldid=45329 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+0) 10/* Constants */ < 1447341454 511899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45331&oldid=45330 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (+51) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */ < 1447341514 737735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45332&oldid=45331 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-1) 10/* Operators (Ordered by precedence): */ < 1447342132 222583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Lemon enthusiast14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45333&oldid=45296 5* 03Lemon enthusiast 5* (-98) 10 < 1447342572 227793 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an important question < 1447342582 250480 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you right align numbers and left align strings? < 1447342614 852595 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you use the same alignment for both? < 1447342745 290527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Justify everything, even if it's a single word. < 1447342866 907645 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing code < 1447342906 471412 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an array, some keys are "strings in double quotes", some are integers < 1447342988 945375 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr["very long string"] = x; arr[22] = x < 1447342990 836742 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr["short string" ] = x; arr[ 2] = x < 1447342993 330506 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ does it look ok? < 1447342996 874876 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's important < 1447343108 269256 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is okay to me no Matter if Strings/Numbers are aligned to the Left or to the Right, or even unaligned, as long as You keep Your Style consistently. < 1447343140 437536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I run 7z a -mx=0 so that it adds files to a 7zip archive without compressing them, and the progress message says "Compressing", then is the progress message misleading, or have I given the parameters wrong? < 1447343279 395205 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Just test with a String of 10k zeroes and look at the Size, then You know whether it compresses B) < 1447343290 297462 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/zer/Zer/ < 1447343319 936142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMM, POSSIBLE < 1447343324 506157 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1447343326 401522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, possible < 1447343329 463115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try that < 1447343379 877309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, doesn't compress. and still says "Compressing" < 1447343402 798198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compression part of 7z is nice, but the command-line UI needs severe reworking. < 1447343409 593728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't the only problem I have with the UI. < 1447343565 579193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: In a case like that, I normally wouldn't align, but if I did, I'd left-align both strings and numbers. But that's strictly personal preference. < 1447343565 727897 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send Patches < 1447343618 495793 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :left align strings, right align numbers < 1447343663 928244 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we're talking about tables < 1447343676 902441 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then left align left-most column, right align all the other columns. < 1447343714 691527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about point-aligning numbers? < 1447343741 823659 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats should be right-aligned and point-aligned < 1447343742 845906 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1447343770 893615 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you use a fixed amount of decimal points then right-aligning them is the same thing? < 1447343789 556583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Imapl14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45334&oldid=45332 5* 03179.185.170.155 5* (-140) 10/* Constants */ < 1447343792 43219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. Are there any fonts with variable-width digits? < 1447343820 355952 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume so < 1447343856 339368 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :„Are there“-Questions sorta suck in our infinite Multiverses ;) < 1447343881 224287 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something does not exist, somebody has already created it in this or other Galaxies < 1447343889 434989 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So nothing does _not_ exist < 1447343896 454859 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1447343897 673746 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paradox ♥ < 1447343905 847370 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I'd kill you for using those fonts. < 1447343926 728372 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not care because there exist an infinite Number of Clones of myself ;=P < 1447343940 837273 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i still have a Fetish for fixed Fonts < 1447343949 597390 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i am lucky even in _this_ current Multiverse ;) < 1447343956 767509 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a fetish for simple websites . < 1447343959 190498 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fixed/fixed-Size/ < 1447343970 485710 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Website is quite simple < 1447343985 451666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a lot of Words with Capital Letters, at least? < 1447343992 806660 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://md.mroman.ch/ <- I started to switch all my sites to this exact same CSS < 1447344021 987902 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://apic.name does not even use CSS < 1447344038 331066 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally you wouldn't use CSS, yes < 1447344043 541868 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1447344044 195386 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but browsers usually have a sucky default CSS imo < 1447344048 316990 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1447344056 50007 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :headings are way too large in my opinion < 1447344070 225365 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having the page width 100% of the window per default < 1447344076 274887 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks stupid on wide screens < 1447344077 935520 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1447344085 22621 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better to not use the full width. < 1447344113 943683 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1447344116 678257 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Du bist Deutscher? < 1447344121 216654 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ja < 1447344222 524540 :andrew__!~andrew@14.152.94.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1447345633 562433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Jace the only character who has six or more Planeswalker cards representing them? < 1447345675 70587 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that's how I would align it, FWIW < 1447345681 111500 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1447345773 517398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Chandra has five, Garruk has five) < 1447345992 169862 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still struggling with the formal proof for the df constants < 1447345996 173691 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they intuitively make sense < 1447346002 217049 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know how to proof it formally :( < 1447346036 157200 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally I can show that numbers of the form n^{2m} can in fact be reached fastest < 1447346210 125471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute. if you tell Firefox to always use my fonts, not allowing webpages to override them, then it still downloads font from the web and uses them for the page as a fallback for characters that aren't in the font I specificed but are in other fonts I have installed on my system? < 1447346217 885395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this look crazy only to me? < 1447346322 441900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45335&oldid=45307 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+216) 10/* Page removal request */ < 1447346609 321172 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://md.mroman.ch/blog/2015-11-12.html <- that's what I've got so far :( < 1447346704 99841 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing left is to prove that if n^2m < x < n^2(m-1) then the fastest way is to go to whichever is nearest and use i or d < 1447346734 423117 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1447346799 413187 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447346954 386883 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1447346972 980703 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably just need to show, that any number between those can not be reached in less than n+m steps < 1447347364 104293 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447347938 925256 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1447347983 155332 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1447348193 51079 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under what sort of conditions will n^2m < x < n^2(m-1)? < 1447348212 964484 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: your math is wrong. repeated squaring gets you to n^(2^m). Also, you should simply aim for the closest square number, so one of n^2 < x < (n+1)^2. < 1447348217 353769 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1447348282 268532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignoring the nasty case of 256). < 1447348367 910218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 isn't even that nasty. For numbers 256^4 and up, it's still better to go to 256^2 and square it. < 1447348371 463809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: when n is purely imaginary < 1447348372 44428 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A useful fact is that if df(x) is the smallest number of operations to reach x from 0 in deadfish, then |df(x) - df(x+1)| <= 1, still ignoring the 256 complication. < 1447348417 165921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is simply because you can get from x to x+1 by a single operation, and vice versa. < 1447348488 118816 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't give very useful bounds, though, since df(x) = Θ(√x). < 1447348497 360479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the thing is, repeated squaring is a very infrequent case. you're far more likely to end up with small adjustments after each squaring. < 1447348534 367879 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh. right. < 1447348542 149982 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^(2^m) < 1447348562 82345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's a useful lemma because it bounds the different of the costs for reaching n or n+1 in n^2 < x < (n+1)^2, and also shows that except for very small x, aiming for a smaller or a larger square cannot possibly help. < 1447348572 464554 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference < 1447348644 42220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the < should be <= of course ...) < 1447349831 948514 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1447350174 996183 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: jace is the most promiscuous planeswalker hth < 1447350317 656449 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: and he's a memory mage, he made sure he has good publicity by ensuring everyone always remembers him while they forget the other planeswalkers < 1447350362 950883 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he even made sure Teferi got such a ridiculously forgettable planeswalker card, because Jace saw him as a potential rival, being the same color. < 1447350499 517728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Teferi is delayed in revenging on him, because his ovinomancer powers extends only to creatures, and unlike some planeswalkers, Jace isn't so stupid as to turn to a creature planeswalker. < 1447350652 97024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jace even ensured everyone remembers him by getting into the flavor text of a lot of spells. < 1447351472 988256 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.158 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1447351584 450008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1447353663 500313 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1447354117 920088 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1447354292 365525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not dislike the default CSS of the browser. However, if the user does not like it then he should modify it. < 1447354371 976720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put in your own CSS to not use the full width or for whatever, then I would have to override it per each site to force it to use the full width of the window. < 1447356056 328011 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447356534 916699 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1447356735 141372 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1447356826 351588 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447356917 320097 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1447356918 248544 :mihow_!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :mihow < 1447357067 749127 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1447357197 203508 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya < 1447357282 877611 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVBYW2CSDgvspkCl0nYTy-FQPUwozYdkX2H-cZGwALo/edit?usp=sharing < 1447357297 784981 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on Getchl right now and am still looking for feedback < 1447357312 705785 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone feels like clicking the link and telling me what they think... < 1447358442 492583 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the tldr version? < 1447358574 144693 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: There isn't an abbieviated version, unless you don't care about the commands in which case the Wiki has that on the Getchl page < 1447358595 273405 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's *eight* pages -_- < 1447358610 290566 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :of arbitrary associations between actions and keys < 1447358628 22359 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447358742 111725 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1447358753 785945 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Some of them are based on the traditional meanings (:=dup), some based loosely on meanings in other languages (;=halt), and some are just chosen because they look like they should mean that (@=loop) < 1447358781 327671 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The letter ones are either mneumonics (r=read), and 0-9 and A-F are Hex codes < 1447359045 974615 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, it /is/ 8 pages. All printable ASCII characters, plus a number of variant commands, and a list of useful mneumonics < 1447359267 413546 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1447359372 506276 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1447359382 228511 :hppavilion[2]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1447360445 6722 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447361079 102704 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1447361590 218608 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-juejczcnodlaneoj QUIT :Excess Flood < 1447361656 587445 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew, I was writing a completely stupid statement in my program. good thing the compiler caught it. < 1447361667 146311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :const++ < 1447361730 327433 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aahsezllsahmxtyh JOIN :#esoteric < 1447361916 514814 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like, I was writing several stupid statements < 1447362519 145066 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1447363123 321759 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1447363723 77706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Hppavilion1/Unicode/Potential Meanings14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45336 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+755) 10Created Page < 1447363798 584720 :user!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447363810 90324 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vtashhbqzfayyoli QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1447363821 407416 :user!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 NICK :Guest52752 < 1447364072 67385 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1447364655 267038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45337 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+2080) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Greentext |author=[[Jfeng41]] |year=[[:Category:2015|2015]] |class=[[:Category:Turing complete|Turing complete]] |refimpl=[https://github.com/jfeng41/..." < 1447365336 766016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45338&oldid=45337 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+206) 10 < 1447365455 355008 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1447365465 854841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45339&oldid=45338 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+22) 10 < 1447365487 779203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45340&oldid=45339 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (-2) 10 < 1447365496 358257 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1447365497 703192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1447365595 100112 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1447365621 24888 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble finding some ideas to name my esolang < 1447365639 113754 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :name it Guest52752 < 1447365652 94693 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a memorable name is important < 1447365655 695037 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1447365662 377842 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, I'll do it < 1447365665 167965 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1447365688 52910 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1447365692 146418 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't leave < 1447365694 369396 :Guest52752!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 NICK :Mrlemons < 1447365702 915715 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1447365716 474476 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding!! < 1447365719 616061 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447365740 671276 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a turing tarpit with only two characters < 1447365758 890535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one? < 1447365787 942252 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1447365809 781609 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1447365810 606369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45341&oldid=45340 5* 03160.3.110.148 5* (+9) 10 < 1447365880 886162 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttctc - turing tarpit containing two characters < 1447365922 695246 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tttc two characters turing tarpit < 1447365929 849476 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1447365932 598054 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1447365932 746729 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tctt < 1447366026 979765 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttctt you mean? < 1447366033 337373 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you intended it to be recursive < 1447366087 38285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tar < 1447366087 989160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1447366089 637860 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tarpit < 1447366090 882983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarpit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1447366258 804126 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which tar < 1447366259 452959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/tar < 1447366262 875644 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1447366413 575901 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1447366524 300787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The tapeworm is the bane of tape libraries. Its natural enemy is the tape archiver, tar. < 1447366527 495471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tapeworm': The tapeworm is the bane of tape libraries. Its natural enemy is the tape archiver, tar. < 1447366631 410346 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :google cats scared by cucumbers < 1447366637 209727 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1447366640 596018 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1447366643 681012 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll wait here < 1447366654 554307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hold your breath < 1447366697 131816 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't breathe anyway < 1447366784 911480 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that oxygen has a 100% killing rate < 1447366933 986504 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 7% of people have not yet died despite being exposed to 21% O2 in the atmosphere almost all the time. < 1447366975 426078 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :give 'em some time < 1447367008 570265 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will, but you have no proof that that will work. < 1447367239 833392 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet your $dayjob is lobbyst for a tobacco firm < 1447367343 71828 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1447367387 726500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'll add this: I was speaking mathematically; scientifically you seem to be on the safe side. < 1447367660 570136 :Mrlemons!b369916b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.105.145.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447367985 676951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1447368149 938640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is moving backward in time < 1447368190 379796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am? < 1447368247 155343 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1447368251 427259 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, last time I saw you join it was after midnight, and now it's before midnight (local time, here) < 1447368262 937406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you referring to me being constantly backlogged (approx. 2 months for the wiki and /r/haskell) < 1447368271 43787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1447368277 342362 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1447368384 157885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: today i shopped just before the shop closed at 11, so had to go home a bit early to reach it. < 1447368412 490746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how early do you usually go home < 1447368417 271747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :home from where < 1447368436 108096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 (12 on weekends), because that's when the restaurant closes < 1447368466 335147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when my sleeping cycle is enough different that i'm asleep then < 1447368506 894647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your opinion of some of my ideas about improvement to make for SQLite? < 1447368531 441149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the ideas. < 1447368623 383423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/sqlext < 1447369189 117922 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much of the sqlite internals but where is the button that produces chocolate chips < 1447369242 37366 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :god someone tell me the truth behind design patterns already < 1447369282 480035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: I don't know! < 1447369295 936797 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-61-210.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1447369309 38616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I think SQLite does not have the button to produce chocolate chips. < 1447369331 700243 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being forced to use ~the observer pattern~ and also ~MVC~, to make a space invaders clone in c++ < 1447369338 182841 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WTF < 1447369342 876847 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW CAN THIS BE < 1447369405 145388 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, maybe you can submit a patch < 1447369415 753953 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the non lite version have them? < 1447369424 856739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would need some other equipment to produce chocolate chips, but if you would want to you might be able to make SQLite extension to drive such a machine. < 1447369452 841762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: the observer pattern is required to collapse the wave function hth < 1447369474 335329 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :: D < 1447369505 283845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: There is no "non lite" version, although there is a paid version that adds support for encryption and compression (you can still do these things with the free version too although you would have to implement such a VFS yourself unless someone else has already made such a free VFS for such purpose); it doesn't add chocolate chips though < 1447369550 407679 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: what happens if you apply the observer pattern to a heated kettle of water (or milk)? < 1447369600 126607 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :...who puts milk in the kettle? < 1447369602 176238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many things can be done with extensions, although some things should need to be applied to the core in order to work properly (except for json_aggregate which would be applied to an existing extension and not to the core) < 1447369612 742449 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably object-oriented programmers < 1447369669 104238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An extension can implement a virtual table module, although there are some things that virtual tables currently do not do; I suggested what improvements could be made. < 1447369699 102047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much of what I wrote is only about the public API and not about the internals anyways (although the internals clearly would need to be modified in order to implement such things). < 1447369967 245083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :has oerjan come unstuck in time? < 1447370410 971018 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1447370531 37071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :bongiornoily < 1447370711 984098 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :buongiornoily* < 1447370770 673862 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ach < 1447370775 219393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to step up my Italian < 1447370785 888081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean, I need to actually learn Italian < 1447371076 352310 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :inglourious basterds is not enough? < 1447371199 289262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1447371210 626435 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(safely addressing you in the vocative case.) < 1447371217 35192 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora! < 1447371339 47570 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\, b_jellonas, chelloppro, ellodwardk, Firellofly, fizziello, fungellot, Greghellor, int-ello, J_Arcanello, Jafellot, lifthellorasiir, helleu, Hellymia, mhellauris, Mellolvar... < 1447371404 705644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello, nellortti, hellocharles__, hellørjan, hellolsner, Phantom_Helloover, pikhelloq, QUINTHELLOPIA, Sgello, hellochaf, shellokhin, trellomp, tswellott, hezzo38! < 1447371511 432849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I learnt Italian, I could ask my information theory teacher to tutor me in his native language, which he can't possibly be less eloquent in < 1447371558 663173 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but would you be able to do so in time? < 1447371595 146001 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian is easy < 1447371608 403849 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add o at the end of each word < 1447371613 322965 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian -> italiano < 1447371644 584954 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :next, wanna try spanish? add s at the end of each italianized word < 1447371648 542389 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian -> italianos < 1447371808 133582 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Portuguese? < 1447371831 934935 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nji at the end < 1447371872 668366 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not even exaggerating that much < 1447371977 228594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nji? < 1447371998 331921 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for Norwegian, you add in some ø I guess... < 1447372004 341245 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :italianøsnji. < 1447372301 334022 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1447372332 993391 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1447372399 77959 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric