< 1448150432 601296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, tedious, but it can help < 1448150434 853715 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait it makes more sense to think of them as edges < 1448150632 175075 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you have a 1 cornering an edge where the other cornering edge is missing, you can deduce that the opposing edges of the 1 are also missing < 1448150895 931004 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is trickier to describe than to use < 1448151219 771805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1448151230 742078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one that also works in loopy < 1448151265 244620 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is matrix multiplication defined for matrices generalized to an aribitrary number of dimensions? < 1448151270 873336 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more powerful in loopy, because you don't need to know the other cornering edge is missing, that also follows < 1448151284 920737 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there are tensors and tensor products, don't know details < 1448151299 338455 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's good. < 1448151314 859516 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1448151320 134761 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch that < 1448151340 744503 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: And are tensors like [n]D matrices? < 1448151357 395635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you want to understand them, according to some people < 1448151386 477179 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor < 1448151419 788670 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in loopy, you can also do it backwards, if the opposite edges of the 1 are missing, you can deduce that the other edge of the corner must be missing too. < 1448151457 738426 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true in palisade, since a corner can have 3 edges. < 1448151491 859164 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. In palisade, if you have two neighboring 3s, there must be a line in the middle; in loopy, you get two more forced lines from the same pattern... < 1448151573 720627 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i also know that. i think that was the first trick i found in palisade. < 1448151597 289748 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also found that quickly for loopy, except for the two forced lines which took me a long time. < 1448151628 564531 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it also generates to all other loopy geometries. < 1448151657 419142 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example if you have a triangle with a 2 bordering a square with a 3, as in some. < 1448151695 529978 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the most useful rules that work deep inside loopy, far from the borders < 1448151714 319125 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1448151748 817639 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*generalizes < 1448151751 377534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah loopy has way more patterns of that sort, because you have full parity to work with instead of just one excluded number of neighbours (namely, 1). < 1448151757 44792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1448151766 21515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of neighbours -> degree < 1448151785 457347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the former is too ambiguous) < 1448151808 921707 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, sleep time < 1448151810 103053 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's fun in loopy when you can follow parity in a long path of unknown edges to deduce something at the other end < 1448151826 626148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1448151878 145888 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think loopy is still my overall favorite in the collection. < 1448151910 347394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :loopy, btw, also has a sort of choke point property: any enclosed area must have an even number of edges going in and out; this is sometimes useful in Nikoli's challenge (slitherlink) puzzles. < 1448151978 616882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448152001 816505 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think for matrices, "dimension" usually refers to the number of rows and/or columns. for generalizing to more than two classes like "row" and "column" (i.e. tensors) the word is "rank". < 1448152029 564711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nikoli.com/swf/sl.swf?loadUrl=/nfp/sl-1269.nfp&lang=1 ... hmm. < 1448152043 71891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oops, actually it's "order", afawps < 1448152135 742855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall whether I used that parity property for that particular puzzle instance. < 1448152136 245720 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i've found that one two yes, it's the most global property i use (well, that + non-zero) < 1448152141 962146 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one too < 1448152159 465315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, non-zero is the more obvious of the too :) < 1448152187 697842 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh. < 1448152274 78152 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hmph confusingly they use dimension for the arrays of numbers representing the tensor. < 1448152286 996205 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Weirdos. < 1448152307 551537 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, interest; Simon Tatham doesn't implement complete solvers for most of the puzzles... < 1448152322 648345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ing < 1448152396 571941 :LemonEnt!b1c1de2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.193.222.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448152400 329684 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does that mean there's a limited difficulty level for them? < 1448152441 991294 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that link you gave requires flash and i've gotten to the habit of disabling it. -> < 1448152460 857927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as far as we possibly see? < 1448152488 699407 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what? < 1448152493 206611 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1448152498 943502 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as wikipedia says < 1448152540 803809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp, huh? < 1448152551 988949 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in principle, yes; but he writes (in the documentation) that for many puzzles, since a computer is better at finding places where the simple techniques apply, people will resort to advanced techniques regardless. < 1448152565 103408 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nikoli's page doesn't have a way to mark lines as known empty < 1448152576 393009 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1448152590 123165 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes it does; click twice or shift-click < 1448152658 190524 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one thing you can do on nikoli but not in tatham's puzzles is that you can drag the mouse to draw several lines at once... so neither interface is perfect < 1448152669 11727 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1448152720 259414 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-click is worse for my hands :( < 1448152779 571768 :LemonEnt!b1c1de2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.193.222.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448152782 100664 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of them are < 1448152832 852545 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my touchpad, neither of them can be completed in a single movement with each hand < 1448153002 571948 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to use the dragging to make up for it
< 1448153015 219289 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moar zzom < 1448153031 765926 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the moar wasn't a typo, but the zzom was) < 1448153073 769540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new apple touch pad is pretty fancy < 1448153093 393080 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha? < 1448153114 966047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like it clicks but it actually doesn't < 1448153139 968598 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why did i do that < 1448154869 436984 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll let users write polynomials (or a similar type of algebraic expression) in Kastor using a certain bracket pair < 1448154875 577879 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only question is what brackets to use < 1448155278 412096 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448155283 673883 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1448156400 723327 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :income brackets hth < 1448156432 741558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in income tax? < 1448156460 670483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are often half-open intervals, i think < 1448156475 494307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you probably want [...) or [...[ < 1448156548 987886 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect when they're sane, they're at least continuous at the end points. < 1448156550 568479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448156584 932869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google income brackets < 1448156585 995022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.efile.com/tax-service/tax-calculator/tax-brackets/ < 1448156586 137473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Federal Income Tax Brackets for 2015 and Other Tax Years < 1448156613 111969 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're not always sane, of course. astrid lindgren once toppled the swedish government by making public that her marginal tax was > 100%) < 1448156629 462614 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least that's how i like to interpret it.) < 1448156632 545429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says 10% for $1 - $9225 and 15% for $9226 to $37,450 < 1448156649 798140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably that one dollar in the middle just isn't taxed < 1448156658 136652 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how kind < 1448156808 838883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448156813 659991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is tax law in the us so complicated < 1448156829 166978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recently had the pleasure of reading parts of the internal revenue code. it was great. < 1448156848 423773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course even reading the code isn't enough, you have to go by precedent and so on < 1448156852 533625 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many special interests? < 1448157173 213444 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> prec IRS < 1448157175 194743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘prec’ < 1448157175 374612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1448157175 374688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘pred’ (imported from Prelude), ‘pre’ (imported from Control.Lens)Not ... < 1448157189 660636 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pred IRS < 1448157191 221490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘IRS’ < 1448157203 911392 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0`IRS`) -- hth < 1448157205 418060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘IRS’ < 1448157208 479224 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1448157224 393820 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would have shown the precedence. < 1448157559 960244 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any cards besides Panglacial Wurm that may result in a player following instructions on multiple cards simultaneously? < 1448157566 74409 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448157613 347090 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448157906 41976 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1448157926 970215 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE YOU HEARD THE PURPLE NEWS? < 1448158022 347808 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1448158028 492303 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you aubergined? < 1448158568 419355 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS A PURPLE PAGE ON THE ESOWIKI. I AM SATISFIED :D < 1448158745 358149 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally, there's an UberGenes page too.) < 1448158799 490739 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as there are funges and brainfuck derivatives, shouldn't there be auberginey languages? auberginals? eggplants?) < 1448158963 299361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Aubergine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45591&oldid=45563 5* 03Boily 5* (+272) 10Add proglang template < 1448158979 639053 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol woohoo < 1448159025 820139 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to make a challenge on PPCG to write a Purple interpreter. < 1448159047 669327 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you imagine how short a Pyth implementation would be? < 1448159121 764987 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should flash a 'duino with an aubergine VM or something ^^ < 1448159195 532780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, deep question on /r/showerthoughts: “Does a centaur suck milk from horse nipples or human ones?”) < 1448159641 894851 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is starting to suspect int-e of having linked the same nikoli challenge puzzle that he did on a previous occasion
< 1448159653 709500 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1448159655 668708 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By the time they are old enough to reach human nipples, they should be weaning off" < 1448159656 148203 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final stage gives me a deja vu feeling < 1448159695 365813 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (incidentally, there's an UberGenes page too.) <-- dammit, i only just got that < 1448159730 750828 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose not being too backlogged to visit the page would have helped < 1448159731 4764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1448159734 874579 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily! < 1448159752 834262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did an esowikiedit! < 1448159797 164901 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1448159805 653103 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1448159824 437086 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chelloppro. I ain't be lying. < 1448159840 446317 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITNESS THE INFALLIBLE BACKLOG! < 1448159841 155407 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia: i'd like to point out that human babies cannot reach human nipples either, without help < 1448159857 347373 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even as an adult, I can't reach my nipples. < 1448159872 533552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe you should get that looked at. < 1448159915 630718 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes the fact that he's alone in his apartment and nobody saw him try to lick his own nipple.
< 1448159916 499960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm glad we agree the aubergine extension is .aub < 1448159929 316469 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else. < 1448160034 572267 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :塔塗塚塞塡塾境墓増墜墨墳墾壁壇壊壌奇奈奉 < 1448160034 754707 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :奏契奔奥妙妥妨妬孔存孝孤宰宴宵寸寿封尽寝 < 1448160035 748840 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :尚峠斗斤斥爽 < 1448160056 972560 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ℵℶℷℸ < 1448160084 924513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\オレンくんこんばんは\ < 1448160130 11289 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you managed to plug 墨 in your font? < 1448160158 32362 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :当たり前だ！ < 1448160165 810281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: whoa whoa whoa < 1448160177 791630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are mathematical letters, aren't they < 1448160178 488145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1448160205 365209 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made them taller than the equivalent hebrew letters < 1448160250 329609 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm <- they are green < 1448160252 575005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're ltr < 1448160255 874083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bizarre imo < 1448160434 12898 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PROPORTIONED CHICKEN < 1448160966 349455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: In some cases there are mana steps (that includes in the process of casting a spell even if something else tells to cast it, or a payment for a triggered ability, or something else), so maybe there is other possibility too. (maybe) < 1448160994 299157 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's true. Lots of cards result in you being able to activate mana abilities. < 1448161094 330383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some mana abilities also have other effects, such as sacrificing permanents or damaging you (and replacement effects may apply to this damage) < 1448161711 44752 :xk_id!~xk_id@unaffiliated/xk-id/x-0573425 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448161848 896358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why am i playing this palisade game twh < 1448161854 114379 :xk_id!~xk_id@unaffiliated/xk-id/x-0573425 PART #esoteric :"Leaving..." < 1448161991 878160 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perfectly crafted temptation hth < 1448162160 498256 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I counter a spell by using an instant to destroy a land that my opponent needs in order to pay for it < 1448162207 324246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if the land produces mana with a mana ability. < 1448162225 699197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wouldn't be countering in any case. < 1448162740 784803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destroying a land does not counter its ability, and if it is a mana ability then it already resolves anyways. Also you can't cast instants during a mana step (there are no interrupts any more; in the old rules mana abilities were interrupts). Even so it can be tapped for mana in response to the destruction spell (if it is not already tapped) < 1448162783 220952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if there was an effect that said that mana is emptied from the mana pool each time something resolves? < 1448162815 164696 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, because you don't get priority until your opponent has already paid it. < 1448162903 844445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, the trigger just would go on the stack, I think < 1448162926 635612 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think that would be a mandatory infinite loop, because it would trigger every time it resolves. < 1448162940 272446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make it not be a triggered ability, I guess. < 1448162944 45628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would trigger itself too clearly < 1448162954 172962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, such as a replacement effect I suppose? < 1448162980 494718 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could use an intervening if. "Whenever a spell or ability resolves, if any player has mana in his or her mana pool, ..." < 1448163053 386049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I suppose that can be another way < 1448163200 4600 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, what did I learn today? For the ability "Chameleon Colossus gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is its power", X is determined when the ability resolves and that number persists. < 1448163223 541142 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the other game rule questions I got wrong were due to mistakes. < 1448163374 672720 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163376 57493 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163380 728794 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163393 544049 :haavardp!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163407 247987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which questions? < 1448163515 807061 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448163515 949470 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448163586 870398 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163613 773335 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163781 394373 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pjxadvtdxyoixxsy JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163810 428062 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjktbqtduoawdbsg JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163887 603571 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163903 130450 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxmjfsczrkaozccf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163903 603367 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163904 761197 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163905 357494 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163905 622512 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163906 109011 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163906 414061 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163906 559616 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163907 211987 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163923 541655 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448163952 820823 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163955 978356 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163957 952689 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163959 112624 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163959 317615 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163960 296640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163960 624644 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163960 767137 :rntz!~rntz@pool-96-248-68-233.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163961 42061 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163961 184480 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163962 154725 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163962 642165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163965 689955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163965 832488 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163965 980307 :singingb1yo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163967 215551 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163968 572783 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448163976 108976 :mbrcknl_!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjktbqtduoawdbsg NICK :mbrcknl < 1448164037 776643 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164251 765665 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@2001:41d0:51:1::1d31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164270 48620 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164295 421169 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1448164375 176542 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1448164401 590626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which size do you play < 1448164403 554479 :haavardp!freebsd@haavard.me NICK :haavard < 1448164405 41584 :trn!~trn@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164428 386289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Esowiki201529A/test link14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45592 5* 03103.3.98.227 5* (+9432) 10Created page with " [[网站首页]] [[关于我们]] [[新闻中心]] [[产品展示]] [[在线留言]] [[联系我们]] 栏目分类 ..." < 1448164544 453535 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635289 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635367 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635397 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635410 :rntz!~rntz@pool-96-248-68-233.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635424 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635438 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635452 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164544 635465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164550 253675 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164550 396051 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164550 396137 :singingb1yo!~brandonso@annacis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164550 396165 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164550 396187 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1448164572 253154 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizzicato < 1448164689 107297 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 15 x 12, size 8 < 1448164702 426623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1448164704 802502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that? < 1448164714 321871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Esowiki201529A/test link14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45593&oldid=45592 5* 03103.3.98.227 5* (+619) 10 < 1448164788 762391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it's in the type menu (for the standalone version, anyway, but i recall the online games have similar selections < 1448164806 757819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a Custom option < 1448164817 609884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the online game has 15x12, size 10 < 1448164822 938605 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1448164825 452860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 10x8, size 8 < 1448164826 865165 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i meant 10 < 1448164833 581759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1448164848 801393 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 15 * 12 `mod` 8 < 1448164851 2134 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1448164854 47233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY NOT < 1448164897 128321 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a version where you have two different region sizes... < 1448164903 611383 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1448165041 849907 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe instead of fucking about with fread fseek ftell and fwrite I should use mmap < 1448165084 595972 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc theres a speed increase with mmap anyway < 1448165094 430161 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: int-e was doing 18 x 16, size 12 < 1448165108 408261 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and 10 x 10, size 50 < 1448165122 676867 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only now realized what was weird about that one
< 1448165152 98612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the weird thing that you have two regions or something else < 1448165157 448450 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1448165173 572669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1448165186 151829 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should try that and see how it works
< 1448165188 318950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, that wasn't a very good question < 1448165213 45181 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but first i must finish this one... < 1448165273 559794 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 3 regions left but they're a bit evil < 1448165289 874252 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i'm missing something obvious as usual < 1448165302 738856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much backtracking do you need for this game < 1448165310 996683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :backtracking is scow < 1448165316 873869 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never backtrack unless i make an error < 1448165322 56304 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not so far, anyway < 1448165374 192978 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words i haven't needed it yet < 1448165425 745684 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course, i missed that those big open spaces were bordering < 1448165490 599433 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there were actually 4 regions left, i misestimated < 1448165524 37666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finished < 1448165564 675066 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to the 2 region one. lots of 0s... < 1448165728 485812 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448165831 424125 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was pretty easy < 1448166593 778168 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448166657 936351 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps ⁅⁆ would be good for mathematical expressions? < 1448167313 316338 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm defining 𝔹 as the set of booleans < 1448167669 287169 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1448167820 706232 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of need a set (well, class) marker to denote the surreals... < 1448168418 85516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use 𝕀 for the pure imaginaries < 1448168708 346045 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1448168980 202583 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm adding an abstract builtin type "DIM" to Kastor that expresses a space, for example, the dimensions of a matrix < 1448169164 591838 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks NICK :Hoolootwo < 1448170096 770503 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448170201 537484 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've defined the operator ×, which accepts two integers (or another DIM and an integer, or two DIMs) and produces a DIM of the size m×n. You can, for example, raise an abstract set to the power of a DIM to get the matrix type < 1448170240 473079 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird and complicated < 1448170668 265074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Generalizing modular arithmetic to ℂ (or more likely, the Gaussian integers) could be interesting < 1448171042 531398 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :‽ operator. Wonder what I should make it do. < 1448171169 254256 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁘ ⁙ ⁚ ⁛ ⁝ ⁞ ⸪ ⸫ ⸬ ⸭ operators as well, I suppose < 1448171482 390838 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should make ™ a postfix operator xD < 1448171798 346554 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Since no one's answering, I'm dragging you into this. < 1448171919 2885 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought of something weird the syntax of Kastor allows you to do. \ followed by a name is the "anonymize" operator (though it's not so much an operator as a syntactic element, unless I change my mind); it takes a name and converts it to an anonymous name. Consider the expression "x = \x". That's valid Kastor. < 1448172066 804280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TM operator14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45594 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+252) 10Created Page < 1448172127 528159 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about you, oerjan? < 1448172181 479591 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just found neoletters is 1000000% easier to read if set to size 12, but a bit big) < 1448172190 734148 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448172210 827888 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1448172226 981917 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia? < 1448172284 455203 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps the TM operator should just delete the variable it is applied to and return its value) < 1448173212 422027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented the "traitor scheming" variant of the Magic: the Gathering archenemy game. < 1448173215 569409 :Aearnus!62b1cbe7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.177.203.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448173486 947398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind of game could be draft that includes planes < 1448173582 275730 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it is meant for size 12 = 16 pixels < 1448173615 57622 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1448173618 513562 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense. < 1448173626 736527 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use a size that isn't a multiple of 16 pixels it won't look good at all < 1448173646 205156 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That makes sense now. < 1448173805 27265 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annoying thing is on mac sixe 16 is the same size as 12 is on windows and linux < 1448173904 689529 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for mac, 1px = 1pt while on windows 1px = 0.75pt < 1448173977 367929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i played a 10x10/50 game and it was perfectly divided with a straight line in the middle < 1448173980 369772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that unusual? < 1448174287 538871 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah my font looks horrible at 8 pt < 1448174306 159598 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know, i've only played the one < 1448174400 217909 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :size 6 is hard to read, but better than 8 < 1448174487 531116 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :size 9 is... meh < 1448174500 739659 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should put this info on my page < 1448174737 390021 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1448174789 19887 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that the phrase "best mathematical properties" is used on Wiki's page on numbers < 1448174817 702721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universal properties are the best. < 1448174915 681887 :andrew!~andrew@59.38.97.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448176476 91205 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448178469 987894 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1448178522 730697 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448179563 472110 :Aearnus!62b1cbe7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.177.203.231 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1448180030 55196 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I'm trying to include blackboard bold digits in Arithmetic of the Functia, but it looks like TeX doesn't allow that because Donald Knuth and the AMS are both assholes < 1448180064 493023 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does just including the builtin symbols work < 1448180315 567355 :andrew!~andrew@59.38.97.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448180757 826923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make your own font with METAFONT. < 1448180763 31891 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nuuuuuuuuuu < 1448180779 359944 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just give up and I'm going to recommend people not use blackboard bold xD < 1448180786 561850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at the existing ones to see how it work and then make the font based on that one. < 1448180790 402345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a nice idea, but it would only really serve to confuse in the end < 1448180824 228064 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For the Arithmetic of the Functia, I figured that we can treat numbers as functions < 1448180849 100484 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, a number n can be treated as a function with one argument x that is defined as n*x < 1448180860 295175 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes sense given the syntax 5(x) and the like < 1448180876 182876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX allows you to use any font you want to as long as metrics in TFM format are available. (Clearly you will need glyphs as well, although TeX doesn't care about glyphs.) < 1448181193 986913 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1448181305 861962 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Great. Now that I've defined that numbers our functions, along with dealing with allowing functions to be raised to the power of a number ( f**2(x)=f(f(x)) ), I think I need to define f**g and similar things xD < 1448181329 715124 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/our/are/ < 1448181334 652491 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have any ideas? < 1448181532 880044 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448181585 244482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Purple14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45595&oldid=45585 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-10) 10/* Python 2 */ Oops how did that bug slip by. < 1448183880 119285 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448186022 232419 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1448189898 566412 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1448190718 780519 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448191156 710861 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448191657 995806 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1448191700 439445 :vjoba!~quassel@ip-89-177-135-104.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1448192078 489236 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yehlqvvohvjgfbrw QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1448192175 919279 :vjoba!~quassel@ip-89-177-135-104.net.upcbroadband.cz PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávání. Odkudkoliv." < 1448193341 677895 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448193356 340389 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1448195155 349774 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/tcl-not stallman on tcl < 1448196788 136871 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-woigvltfwyrlimee JOIN :#esoteric < 1448202563 380 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1448202571 377562 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy QUIT :Changing host < 1448202571 520009 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448202571 520078 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1448202571 520097 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy JOIN :#esoteric < 1448205591 635760 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mroing < 1448206183 806816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448207238 330602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1448207259 337138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no taneb < 1448207266 684875 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1448207385 345783 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] The idea behind Church numerals is that if C_n is the numeral for n, then C_n(f) is f**n. If you wanted to do this particular generalization, f**g would simply be g(f). < 1448207385 488068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448207844 530162 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no no, "no" means "hi", so Phantom_Hoover was greeting you. < 1448208025 581551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :noswett < 1448208046 879549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanob < 1448208357 93784 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellambdabot! < 1448208423 601314 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5^3) < 1448208425 826918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 125 < 1448208430 717138 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1448208438 317424 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 xor 3) < 1448208439 857564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Num a1) < 1448208439 999793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Num a2, Num ((a -> a -> a) -> a2 -> t), Bits a) < 1448208439 999855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type for ‘e_153’: < 1448208475 256989 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t xor < 1448208476 559940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> a -> a < 1448208543 284545 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 `xor` 3 < 1448208545 114730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1448208567 196773 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that magic syntac < 1448208596 113278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that magic? < 1448208628 418376 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it determines that some operators are operators just because they are, while others must be surrounded by `` < 1448208648 914226 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 `^` 3) < 1448208661 144670 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 `^` 3) < 1448208663 153107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:5: parse error on input ‘^’ < 1448208675 1571 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck you haskell < 1448208693 891213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything starting with a letter is a function < 1448208699 524065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy as that < 1448208729 670734 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about arguments? < 1448208765 857580 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (^ 3 5) < 1448208767 498370 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Integral b0) arising from a use of ‘^’ < 1448208767 640855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Num a) < 1448208767 640910 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: Num a => a -> a < 1448208784 393195 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`^` 3 5) < 1448208786 59206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: parse error on input ‘^’ < 1448208820 125779 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ does not start with a letter, therefore ^ is an operator and needs infix notation < 1448208844 964445 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(operator) is a function and `function` is an operator < 1448208874 44092 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 `(^)` 3) < 1448208887 735742 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (5 `(^)` 3) < 1448208889 370006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:5: parse error on input ‘(’ < 1448208890 483285 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me some $$, and I can make these parentheses... disappear! < 1448208946 704907 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((`xor`) 5 3) < 1448208948 280806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:8: parse error on input ‘)’ < 1448208953 61991 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff made of letters is a function, stuff made of symbols is an operator. < 1448208979 797 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use `` on stuff made of letters and () on stuff made of symbols, but you can't combine the two... I guess. < 1448209232 908727 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff I learned. Copiable values are generally the values printed on the card; additional effects don't matter. If two identical replacement effects are trying to modify what happens to an object, the object's controller chooses which one wins. Also some complicated damage replacement thing. < 1448209314 116554 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you learning this by going over the rules, or by poring over official tournament game transcripts or what? < 1448209332 6894 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By taking practice rules exams and looking at the ones I got wrong. < 1448209350 575763 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shock says: "If a source would deal damage to a creature or player, it deals double that damage to that creature or player instead." That's a replacement effect. There's also a replacement effect allowing the controller to redirect damage from a player to a planeswalker. < 1448209367 675370 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The affected player chooses which replacement effect is applied first, in this case. < 1448209430 448104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, M:tG talk? < 1448209481 884685 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448209543 670462 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1448209554 175195 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny thing about that neural net I've been training on #esoteric logs... < 1448209586 802259 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has learned that we frequently say "Magic: the [capitalized word]". It hasn't learned that that word is always "Gathering". < 1448209594 359987 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: functions are prefix by default, operators infix by default. `·` turns a function into infix, (·) turns an operator into prefix. that's all there is to it, really (where 'function' means identifier consisting of letters & digits, 'operator' means identifier consisting of symbols) < 1448209623 192571 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the neural net keeps producing stuff like "Magic: the Computer" and "Magic: the Imagination" and whatnot. < 1448209698 479485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [xor 5 3, 5 `xor` 3, (^) 5 3, 5 ^ 3] < 1448209700 144668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [6,6,125,125] < 1448209715 42481 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks it's rather neat
< 1448209875 704274 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how comes there is so few hearthstone talk here < 1448209900 370933 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. < 1448209904 683654 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, about Hearthstone. < 1448209909 538857 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those solo adventures like, anyway? < 1448209924 248685 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why they don't offer any kind of free trial for those. < 1448209953 209787 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, but there's a shitload of youtube videos < 1448209969 901532 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :younwant to purchase them sooner or later anyways < 1448209974 529305 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right. < 1448209999 837019 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are trying reno cobtrol shamans < 1448210011 216057 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretry curious on how that will turn out < 1448210029 719345 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reno? < 1448210082 398832 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reno jackson is a new card. "if you don't have any card twice left in your deck, fully heal your hero" < 1448210199 9065 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's a card you probably wouldn't see in MTG. < 1448210209 412813 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1448210231 892260 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you run out of cards in your deck? < 1448210268 723590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the first attempt to draw you lose one life < 1448210277 314814 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the second, you lose second life < 1448210286 719166 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat until death occurs < 1448210329 82535 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is actually a viable strategy to make your opponent draw as much as possible < 1448210334 776336 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second time you lose 2, to clarify < 1448210343 145444 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, yeah < 1448210344 326943 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the rate at which you lose life accelerates < 1448210369 400690 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :said strategy is known as milling < 1448210395 104221 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fought a rogue mill deck once, it was awful :( < 1448210413 243574 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mill druids are way nastier < 1448210435 189330 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. I only played hearthstone for a bit, got tired of it < 1448210436 719855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :druids zave a card that says "destroy an enemy minion. your opponent draws a card" < 1448210469 825842 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i addition to those nasty murlocs that make you draw two cards < 1448210489 19157 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1448210543 49387 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1448210806 39358 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1448210929 829041 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that game a lot. the rules are simple, yet the game is challenging < 1448210942 122943 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's an android app < 1448211234 584366 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when did they errata Daru Stinger back to not a human? < 1448211257 208076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check yawgatog < 1448211272 366828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it became a human at Lorwyn, as I expected < 1448211299 192279 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: FRF < 1448211311 986666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was reverted because of the interaction with amplify < 1448211316 740083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1448211323 476206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1448211330 398559 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were fast to bisect < 1448211336 991952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's at FRF < 1448211340 54189 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just googled "daru stinger update bulletin" < 1448211354 943405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now my Daru Stingers are worthless < 1448211361 659525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can no longer use them with clerics < 1448211379 208121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite worthless, mind you, because I have made decks with practically nothing but soliders < 1448211383 627968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but almost worthless < 1448211397 898136 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no trading in Hearthstone, right? < 1448211468 24271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have missed that update somehow. I usually try to read the update bulletins. < 1448211796 756133 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: indeed < 1448211831 677970 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1448211851 195594 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they say it's to avoid unfair trades as well as creating an in-game economy, but I think it's just to encourage people to buy packs for real money < 1448211887 683077 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448212702 892142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what… why is Benevolent Unicorn's ability phrased like that? Does it get around Everlasting Torment? < 1448213546 691398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448214216 792152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, when I browse my collection I understand why I like to play white so much. I have a ton of good white cards. < 1448214260 567683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should buy good black and blue cards so I can build better decks of those too. < 1448214281 167020 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ieqxhsayrqitbdsy QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite! < 1448214432 824197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, with "Enchant Creature" and "Enchantment Creature" both appearing on the type line, it's not so easy to quickly separate creature cards from non-creature cards anymore. I have to be careful. < 1448214444 783728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily I have almost no Enchantment Creatures … yet < 1448214618 384779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: imagine how confusing it would be if enchant meant creature < 1448214978 799724 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, but "Summon" and "Summon Creature" mean creature < 1448214987 30665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also try to play multicolors < 1448215003 839477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, I do < 1448215035 552680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :works well for some decks < 1448215080 390863 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jagefymwpvsnludg JOIN :#esoteric < 1448215534 573031 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a cords type was Creature - Enchanter < 1448215816 48004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: M:tG has no Sorcerers < 1448215834 43448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, it does have sorcerers, by name < 1448215869 333344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have type Wizard or some other creature type < 1448215887 805813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there are enchanters and enchantresses by name < 1448215956 206639 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jagefymwpvsnludg QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite! < 1448216050 989886 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no landers though < 1448216094 110622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no instanters under that name, although Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir is one < 1448216374 605338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion of improving rules of Magic: the Gathering, much is to make it more mathematically elegant. But I have a few others too < 1448216430 335466 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't have Enchant Creature on the type line any more, do they? < 1448216610 564633 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448216675 693583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct it doesn't. < 1448216694 35048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no "enchant" type; "enchant" is a keyword ability. < 1448216940 403965 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hqactsqpdmzizswg JOIN :#esoteric < 1448216978 807454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: they don't, but we don't have the guys from 1984 who replace the printed cards < 1448217292 570832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make deck of all five colours < 1448217332 115265 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have such a deck, but I do have a four-colored deck. I was thinking of modifying it to three colors though, but I'm not sure that's what I'll do. < 1448217338 785935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Spirit-Arcane deck < 1448217410 575901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made up your own cards? < 1448217423 490177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made up cube for cube draft? < 1448217677 146534 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://cosmic.mearie.org/tmp/font-sample I'm trying something like this < 1448217718 698334 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had my own bitmap font for a long time (not in general use but for occasional uses), but probably it is the first time I'm seriously trying to extend that < 1448217884 942715 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448217919 791279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no cube, and only very few own cards < 1448217948 219053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: great, another bitmap font maker on esoteric < 1448218010 612344 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: whoa, awesome! < 1448218140 130371 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are those images? < 1448218173 254154 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, they're inline SVG's! < 1448218174 619104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVG, huh. Nice, except for the lack of hinting. < 1448218218 221222 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...except that bitmap fonts aren't hinted) < 1448218260 513918 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the initial testing (I really don't know how to make a TTF/OTF font :) < 1448218271 37942 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try FontForge < 1448218274 206694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitmap fonts don't need hinted. However if something else is compiled into a bitmap font then hints should be used. (It is possible to do this with METAFONT) < 1448218291 305046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I never made the cube either, but I made many cards; what card you make up? < 1448218422 982136 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1448218462 158321 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1448218708 231564 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I made an enchantment that gives reverse protection, that is, everything else gets protection from the enchanted permanent. I don't remember the details, but it must cost {1U}. < 1448218735 395111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, blue doesn't normally get protection cards. < 1448218930 135514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even recently I made up some more cards. One such card is: You can take two cards from your sideboard, opponent forces you to ante one of them, the other one is placed on top of your library. < 1448218988 233024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another card is: Look in opponent's sideboard for a nonbasic card, if you find one then exile top two cards of opponent's library and put the found card on top of their library. < 1448219045 933897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be good in Limited, because they may have a few cards of the wrong color in their sideboard. < 1448219258 176278 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's even better in a Conspiracy draft if you find a Conspiracy in the sideboard, although those are unlikely to occur in the sideboard < 1448219292 188811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually my card does specifically say "traditional nonbasic nonconspiracy card", so you can't choose one of those. < 1448219327 966510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did think of that!) < 1448219713 666832 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448219904 395222 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1448220168 279274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you designed any good creatures for {B}? I suffer from a lack of good creatures costing {B}. I should buy some. < 1448220234 188952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have cards costing {B} but no creatures. < 1448220251 575055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, there are lots of good instants and sorceries for {B} < 1448220253 789220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can suggest something I will add it though. < 1448220275 935026 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deathmark, Disfigure, etc < 1448220301 315119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't design a good creature for {B} because I have to see examples for that first, and there's too few < 1448220405 663566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's a dark twin of Child of Thorns called Fume Spitter. I need that. I have an irrational liking of Child of Thorns, despite that it's not a really good creature. < 1448220416 69516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name, subtype, power/toughness, and special abilities must be chosen. (You can optionally provide notes and/or flavor text which I will also add to my file.) Probably it could be 1/1 and have one special ability but what kind? I don't know! < 1448220458 357752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly with regeneration (at what cost?) < 1448220483 504102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need Diregraf Ghoul too < 1448220501 181971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably that vampire < 1448220520 309504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guul Draz Vampire < 1448220607 61472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see. Plague Beetle and Prickly Boggart can't hurt too. < 1448220656 143782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I did design such card, you can't buy it; you would have to proxy it, and you need to agree to opponent what cards and other deck construction rules are legal; if you are making both decks by yourself this is less important but you should still show both decks to opponent to see how the game is being played, and switch deck afterward. And if you want to use proxies it is recommend to use card sleeves too. < 1448220665 374655 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1448220740 129849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My own policy would be that if you wish to proxy you must write the full Oracle text of the card you wish to proxy; simply writing the name of the card isn't sufficient.) < 1448220755 679091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Smolder Initiate is a good one, I should buy that < 1448220765 715825 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the light twin < 1448220781 383425 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the dark one is better of course < 1448220826 395311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tormented Soul... nice, I need that < 1448220868 67045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me list the uncommons < 1448220953 214553 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnarled Scarhide seems reasonable < 1448220991 578299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mardu Shadowspear is nice too < 1448221192 487367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they don't print many nice creatures for {B}. no wonder I have so few. < 1448221616 858222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore make up such a card. < 1448221841 70667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this way: 1/1 ;; {B}, Discard a card: Regenerate ~. Is that OK or something should be made difference? < 1448222247 847660 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hqactsqpdmzizswg QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1448222745 736029 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448222760 466128 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uvkzzldttzipyyoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1448222770 653450 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uvkzzldttzipyyoo QUIT :Changing host < 1448222770 796058 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448222770 796124 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1448222770 796146 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uvkzzldttzipyyoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1448223584 258824 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-uvkzzldttzipyyoo QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite! < 1448224650 468740 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ujcjduaoqcrzhkwo JOIN :#esoteric < 1448225127 668827 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1448225552 541610 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448226916 276360 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ujcjduaoqcrzhkwo QUIT :Changing host < 1448226916 418876 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448226916 561227 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1448226916 561301 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ujcjduaoqcrzhkwo JOIN :#esoteric < 1448226924 723312 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1448227135 659663 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448227201 77928 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ujcjduaoqcrzhkwo QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448227440 531510 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nyuvoihsssvgypzf JOIN :#esoteric < 1448227443 221189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at DVIPBM http://zzo38computer.org/prog/dvipbm.zip I have not yet added documentation and there are still some features I intend to add, but it does work now as is; I have used it with foo2zjs to print stuff! < 1448227612 620278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell me if you have the suggestion or other question or complaint < 1448227760 333715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe currently it is only for Linux, although the only Linux-specific code is in popen_noshell.c so if you can write an implementation of that for other systems then you can probably use it on other systems too. < 1448228621 206070 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-95-164.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/J_Arcane/status/668545293164683264 < 1448229052 90644 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1448230214 496002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448231036 374678 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@75-164-204-179.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448231096 636688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1448231332 597336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of Magic: the Gathering cards I invented includes some strange thing that they have not done before, even more strange than some stuff in Time Spiral block < 1448231458 639680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the strangest? < 1448231498 784055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe that artifact that triggers in the cleanup step and does nothing? < 1448231872 34835 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448232081 735947 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1448232325 840238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the text of that one? < 1448232621 895980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dunno, find it in http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt < 1448232845 975413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiny Shard? < 1448232870 846131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn zzo38cards/http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt < 1448232874 943959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «zzo38cards» < 1448232928 897743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That also has Thin Air. < 1448232999 972000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1448233027 688091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if that's the strangest card. zzo38 had designed quite a few strange cards. < 1448233255 537733 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448233294 684088 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448234212 710533 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448234242 489427 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448234353 300670 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448234538 428263 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1448235143 684946 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448235395 91935 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1448235405 521024 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He\\oren\ < 1448235586 754634 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448235607 876948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never told me why you are a computer < 1448235614 832705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor why you create so many new pages < 1448235847 318191 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The computer is because I had an HP when I created my first online account, and didn't want to forget my username < 1448235867 759003 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1 is because I wasn't feeling creative when I found that hppavilion was taken as a Minecraft username < 1448235885 841102 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The square brackets are because it looks like python and this is a programming channel < 1448235907 749154 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the pages are because of some deep psychological flaw or something I am incapable of understanding < 1448235916 411601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first laptop computer was an HP Pavilion. < 1448235918 670168 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448235932 449379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also been at the HP Pavilion building in San Jose. But it looks like it's been renamed since then. < 1448235941 327116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I was only near that building, not in it. < 1448235944 999172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's not even a building. < 1448235957 593383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a pavilion < 1448235969 417652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's an indoor arena. < 1448235974 932077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For hockey? < 1448235977 222519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1448235989 12852 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call those pavilions sometimes < 1448236037 688597 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448236043 458679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently HP paid >$3 million/year to name the place after hppavilion[1]. < 1448236064 914279 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1448236081 13704 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something people would do based on me. < 1448236086 804438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is good to know < 1448236093 687224 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :please add it to the wisdom shachaf < 1448236097 367281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf < 1448236101 824190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nachaf < 1448236123 723549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE I'LL DO IT < 1448236139 682136 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448236188 663292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hppavilion[1]/HP pays $3.5m a year to name an arena in San Jose after him. < 1448236191 631361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hppavilion[1]» < 1448236205 210678 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÁAAAAAAAAAA! < 1448236208 118443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1448236224 402454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLOILYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! < 1448236241 823612 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. you are now fit to be wisdommed. < 1448236309 66921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But they stopped doing it in 2013. < 1448236327 261638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know how to change pays to paid < 1448236336 665501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you expert eoughto edit wisdom < 1448236359 946832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's less than $3.1 million. < 1448236370 895535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that it's less than $3.5 million. < 1448236375 883584 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that part doesn't have to be exact < 1448236380 561366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's $3.1 or $3.25 or $3.35 or something. < 1448236392 569356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE GET APPROXIMATION < 1448236400 400175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just say $3 < 1448236408 729645 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1448236410 639335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could < 1448236415 334346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i knew enough to edit it < 1448236436 448499 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/pays/paid/' wisdom/hppavilion[1] < 1448236437 409064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448236462 961886 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hokay! < 1448236520 222524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's new < 1448236625 528177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely drained. did some volunteering at a boardgaming salon, fsvo some. < 1448236648 323667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn salon < 1448236649 871986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "salon" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1448236650 14255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :salon < 1448236650 14339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: gallery where works of art can be displayed < 1448236650 14363 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a shop where hairdressers and beauticians work [syn: {salon}, < 1448236650 14386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {beauty salon}, {beauty parlor}, {beauty parlour}, {beauty < 1448236651 873931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : shop}] < 1448236653 876103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: elegant sitting room where guests are received < 1448236662 705697 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :animating special events, accueil, food, grilling panini, explaining games... < 1448236681 681663 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "salon" is being used as a placeholder while I find a proper translation hth < 1448236683 503423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try a french dictionary hth < 1448236726 830587 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what games did you demo? < 1448236733 397729 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exposition, exhibition, fair? < 1448236754 333582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :convention? < 1448236770 394370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :event? < 1448236776 263584 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to say convention. < 1448236776 500594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hebrew "salon" means "living room" < 1448236785 110813 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "fair" is the closest. < 1448236791 902499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough