< 1448582400 685552 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "degenerate whatever" is something that's not actually a whatever, but is "on the edge", so to speak. < 1448582405 937194 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I've heard it argued that infinity=0 because the number line is a circle of infinite radius) < 1448582411 923592 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448582433 918347 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a degenerate ellipse is either a line or a point? Infinitely large or infinitely small? < 1448582442 134828 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would guess) < 1448582459 198577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps two parallel lines or a parabola < 1448582476 295946 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think the number ine being a circle would jsut make infinity equal negative infinity. < 1448582492 443756 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I suppose there are a lot of kinds of degenerate ellipses. < 1448582494 85591 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it depends on how you handle overflows? < 1448582527 248489 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take an ellipse and reduce its minor radius towards 0, and it approaches being a line segment. < 1448582542 995395 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Increase its major radius towards infinity, and it approaches being two parallel lines. < 1448582567 536092 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: It depends on whether infinity is equal to 2*infinity and the like. < 1448582574 723938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :move one of its focal points towards infinity and you may get a parabola < 1448582575 716697 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do both, it approaches being a line. < 1448582592 154210 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah. Keep one focus where it is and move the other towards infinity, and it approaches being a parabola. < 1448582599 470660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a line is a degenerate parabola is a degenerate ellipse? < 1448582618 216967 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds right. < 1448582623 953411 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess a ray is a degenerate parabola, too. < 1448582630 281542 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So everything just degenerates down? < 1448582654 96914 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a "god-formula" that produces something that isn't a degenerate anything xD < 1448582663 29172 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose a square is a generate superellipse < 1448582674 430225 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also sounds right. < 1448582675 678809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448582677 199895 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448582752 459542 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A superellipse being x**n/a**n+y**n/b**n=r**n where n>2, and a square being where n=infinity < 1448582753 674197 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess given any sort of object, you could probably think of a way to see that object as a degenerate something. < 1448582766 491178 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what we need to invent and start selling? The Mathemetician's Keyboard < 1448582775 862355 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see if I can just visualize that from the formula. < 1448582779 568505 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A USB-based keyboard extension that has additional symbols on it < 1448582785 93918 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would buy it < 1448582820 785197 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I can, more or less. < 1448582824 10184 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: A superellipse is, colloquially an ellipse with squared corners. Not perefectly round. < 1448582830 760683 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1448582852 851447 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the higher n is, the squarier it gets, and eventually it is infinity < 1448582977 236321 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a program that draws [uber]ellipses of the form x**n/a**m+y**o/b**p=r**q, where you can enter values for n, m, o, p, a, b, r, and q, but I don't know how to make a computer calculate those points short of brute force, which wouldn't work because of uncountable infinities and rounding errors and stuff < 1448583012 560769 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. < 1448583020 735444 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a few ways to do that. < 1448583026 781244 :mauris_!~mauris@91.179.173.99 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448583057 378664 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two of them come to mind. < 1448583067 729625 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Such as? < 1448583095 436794 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use SymPy, but that doesn't come with all python distributions and is a bit cheaty, I feel. < 1448583097 27187 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number one, you could turn that into... crap, what are they called. < 1448583102 428963 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polar coordinates. < 1448583166 247257 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, I could use a generalization of my ellipse drawing equation (that \oren\_ helped me with, at least for theta rotation) that can do superellipses, but I wouldn't know where to start because I only discovered how to draw circles (and by extension, ellipses) by accidentally fumbling in Scratch. < 1448583180 648907 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then you'd just calculate r for a bunch of values of theta and plot them. < 1448583200 858957 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number two... < 1448583216 587999 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND it doesn't have any exponentiation used in it, so I wouldn't know where to put m/n/o/p/q < 1448583222 643989 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with a point, and project it onto the uberellipse somehow. < 1448583232 81820 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, again, I can think of two ways to do. < 1448583237 969115 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then plot that point you just got. < 1448583239 475931 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could, of course, just roll my own CAS if I were feeling up to it. < 1448583265 933432 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find the slope of the uberellipse at that point, move the point a little bit in that direction, project it again. Plot that. < 1448583267 324623 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeat. < 1448583267 466837 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Of course", "just") < 1448583273 158692 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1448583352 735350 :sixtustha5!~root@unaffiliated/sixtustha5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448583354 160090 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I include Roulettes in Euclid? < 1448583364 279422 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, calculating a**m, b**p, and r**q won't really do anything. You'll just get a constant anyway. < 1448583374 738581 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yeah, I suppose I would < 1448583398 912340 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the x**m and y**n would be problematic < 1448583403 771122 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, as for projecting it onto the uberellipse? < 1448583412 930988 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use a little bit of calculus, that's all... < 1448583443 908004 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, do you know what a derivative is? < 1448583455 910337 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Vaguely. < 1448583477 917502 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, if I remember correctly, the slope of the plot of a function between two given points < 1448583491 587815 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close. < 1448583497 422542 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the slope of the plot of a function at *one* point. < 1448583497 695858 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are usually separated by an infinitessimal amount < 1448583509 251881 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, my second message clarifies. < 1448583548 3429 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to imply with the second one, at least, that they are practically one point (but that that doesn't really work so we need two that behave as one) < 1448583548 165465 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Newton and Leibniz thought of it as being the slope of the plot of the function between two points separated by an infinitesimal amount. < 1448583583 126724 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's what the snazzy wikipedia diagram I last saw a couple months back gave me the impression of. < 1448583597 359317 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Always infinitesimal, not just usually.) < 1448583652 276692 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is, nobody for the longest time could figure out how to make this infinitesimal thing work. < 1448583709 29637 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448583716 769695 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surreal numbers? xD. < 1448583723 960075 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those hadn't been invented back then, I know < 1448583726 944556 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually someone, I don't remember who, came up with a new definition of the derivative that *did* work formally. < 1448583746 593537 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know as such because they were named by conway and invented by knuth (or was it vice versa?) < 1448583767 31345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it was vice versa) < 1448583897 736626 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells me the definition will probably make sense to you. < 1448583907 477999 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! Calculus I understand! < 1448583914 136552 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I want to find the slope of the function f(x) = x^2 at x = 3. < 1448583925 857745 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Barring Arithmetic of the Functia, whihc may or may not be a calculus and I don't know which it is) < 1448583931 281050 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILL NOT SUPPOSE. < 1448583956 621010 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you calculate the slope between x = 3 and x = 4, you'll get an approximation. If you calculate the slope between x = 3 and x = 3.1, you'll get a better approximation. Between x = 3 and x = 3.001, a better approximation still. < 1448583981 831866 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take the limit as the distance between the two points approaches zero. < 1448583986 56257 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the derivative. < 1448584077 647863 :sixtustha5!~root@unaffiliated/sixtustha5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448584083 757128 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In (more) symbols, it's the limit of (x^2 - 3^2)/(x - 3) as x approaches 3. < 1448584091 962502 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1448584109 916664 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now... can you figure out what number that is? < 1448584110 113987 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though limits are not a concept I understand yet. < 1448584155 477418 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More out of apathy and lack of necessity and lack of interesting name so far than due to not being smart enough xD < 1448584179 401711 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall I google it, or will you explain? < 1448584184 638370 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll explain. < 1448584192 374227 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd better understand it eventually; limits (in general, not just in the real numbers) turn out to be one of the most important concepts in higher mathematics. :D < 1448584194 132039 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1448584217 483530 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, the limit of a thing is whatever it is that that thing keeps getting closer to. < 1448584228 166311 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I google "Limit" and Duck Duck go suggests two (as well as a few other I didn't read) possibilities of what /kind/ of limit I was referring to in this order: < 1448584230 169294 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, hey, consider this sequence: 4, 3.1, 3.01, 3.001, 3.0001, 3.00001, ... < 1448584238 473495 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Limits (BDSM) < 1448584248 649803 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Limit (Mathematics) < 1448584261 594351 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you figure the limit of that sequence is? < 1448584261 774390 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps getting closer to 3, it appears < 1448584267 826255 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1448584271 99072 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the limit is 3. < 1448584271 511131 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 3.0...1 < 1448584286 704723 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If infinitessimals are allowed, which I doubt < 1448584292 672809 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.0...1 is definitely a natural guess, but it turns out that in the real numbers, there's no such thing. < 1448584308 21919 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no infinitesimal real numbers, after all. Nor any infinite ones. < 1448584385 633366 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, as for the limit of (x^2 - 3^2)/(x - 3) as x approaches 3... < 1448584390 447380 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, can you figure out what that is? < 1448584439 385073 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, of course, I've heard < 1448584551 373985 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to ECMA-48, my brain now reads BDSM as bidirectional support mode even though I know that's not what it means in most contexts :P < 1448584568 136996 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe it's about limits in that! < 1448584589 563856 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x=0, -9/-3=3, for x=1, 1-9/1-3=-8/-2=-4, for x=2 4-9/-1=-5/-1=5, so far I have made no progress because I was doing it wrong. Restarting < 1448584643 482625 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about for x = 3.00000001? < 1448584665 960850 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x=2, 4-9/-1=-5/-1=5, for x=2.5, 6.25-9/-0.5=-3.25/-0.5=6.5 < 1448584728 859386 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, do you know how to factor (x^2 - 3^2)? < 1448584850 681745 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For x=2.75, 2.75**2-9/-0.75=7.5625-9/-0.75=-2.5625/0.75~=-2.56/-0.75~=3.413 < 1448584891 654531 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So x=2: 5, x=2.5: 6.5, x=2.75: 3.413. I made a mistake somewhere. < 1448584898 45827 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or it's a bit erratic < 1448584935 854600 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: x**2-3**2 is a difference of two squares, so it's (x+3)(x-3) < 1448584958 746592 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see my mistake < 1448584973 644847 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so this expression is the same as (x + 3)(x - 3)/(x - 3). < 1448584979 689902 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1448584979 832197 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that expression equivalent to just (x + 3)? < 1448584985 864822 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, isn't it < 1448584993 143366 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1448584996 616 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1448584997 475505 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail. < 1448585002 157460 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one is undefined at x = 3, the second one is not. < 1448585005 671786 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not, may I ask? < 1448585007 609599 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But *apart* from that, yep. < 1448585009 108158 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448585014 963024 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And guess what? < 1448585019 36396 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1448585027 559291 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like guessing. < 1448585036 721197 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When we're taking the limit at 3, the expression's value at 3 doesn't matter. < 1448585042 362318 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that matters is its value *near* 3. < 1448585044 196451 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't think so < 1448585071 593841 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for all the values we're actually concerned about, (x + 3)(x - 3)/(x - 3) is equivalent to just (x + 3). < 1448585123 249681 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Euclid now works in 3D, but it allows you to work in 2D with great simplicity; that is, though it's 3D, a 2D point can be specified that is equal to any 3D point that you wish < 1448585136 137100 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448585138 401278 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then < 1448585158 548645 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's the limit of x + 3 as x approaches 3? < 1448585165 703677 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 3 + 3. < 1448585184 741459 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So x=2, f(2)=5, f(2.5)=5.5, f(2.75)=5.75 < 1448585185 465064 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1448585187 667357 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1448585196 551206 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 6 then < 1448585200 655168 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1448585204 673927 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has amazing arithmetic skillz
< 1448585216 120433 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so impressed by your arithmetic skillz. < 1448585225 935838 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we've figured out that the derivative of the function f(x) = x^2 at x = 3 is 6. < 1448585245 225432 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yay! Now I have a 0.001% advantage over everyone else in my future calculus (or maybe precalculus) classez! < 1448585302 573290 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Are you curious about how I got a 2D geometry language working in a 3D space? < 1448585325 679185 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did you figure it out already because I might've already explained it? xD < 1448585328 929172 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I am. Something about specifying a plane (or some other surface, perhaps) in the 3D space? < 1448585332 846384 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1448585361 752404 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, people who know calculus almost never actually take derivatives that way. There are two much easier ways of doing it. < 1448585366 957460 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one of which is taught in high school. < 1448585378 478648 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just use the "plane" keyword, followed by the formula for a plane, and you change the plane that future shapes defined exist on. And it's still declarative, because it's really just syntactic sugar < 1448585386 502853 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, sweet. < 1448585393 915598 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You aren't american, are you? Just wondering. < 1448585406 420739 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles tswett
< 1448585412 168720 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you guess? < 1448585415 676042 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I am. < 1448585418 68802 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh. < 1448585448 641987 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to mention that it's american thanksgiving today for some reason. I don't know why. < 1448585458 666689 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's symbolic differentiation, where you apply a bunch of rules that they teach you in high school. < 1448585466 527273 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only if you lived in a foreign country where you might not know. For some reason. < 1448585478 983444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably won't know those rules of course. < 1448585479 452925 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. I had the day off today for thanksgiving. < 1448585486 39951 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That's good. < 1448585513 890502 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually planning to work today, but I changed my mind. :D < 1448585525 742329 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules definitely aren't obvious. < 1448585528 48892 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone should have a day off on thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is the american holiday I think all countries should have their own version of. It's a pleasant holiday. < 1448585543 845503 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the rules aren't obvious xD < 1448585546 434746 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the rule for addition is pretty easy. < 1448585562 695023 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, as you may know, the derivative of a function f is often called f'. < 1448585567 319196 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the addition rule: < 1448585576 488679 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The derivative of f(x) + g(x) is f'(x) + g'(x). < 1448585582 895619 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can ALSO sepecify a 2D shape on a plane /without/ changing hte default plane with " on plane " < 1448585588 318383 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I like that. < 1448585607 747453 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did know that. Or, well, that's the ASCIIized symbol for it. < 1448585619 775455 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. The Unicode symbol is, uh, lemme rustle it up. < 1448585642 212869 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :′ < 1448585661 422563 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, here's the product rule, in case you were wondering. < 1448585675 974009 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The derivative of f(x) g(x) is f'(x) g(x) + f(x) g'(x). < 1448585713 484030 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point in the future, you will look at that rule and say "well, yeah, duh." < 1448585753 958601 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the other method of differentiation. < 1448585759 772298 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's called automatic differentiation. < 1448585786 946333 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the idea. Take the real numbers, and add in a number called e, with the property that e^2 = 0. < 1448585799 570024 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that where you let Wolfram|Alpha do it for you? xD < 1448585810 680043 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, nilpotent. < 1448585814 313229 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1448585833 801892 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to find the derivative of f at x, you start by evaluating f(x + e). < 1448585847 837225 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how about the derivative of x^2 at x = 3? < 1448585890 402114 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start by evaluating (3 + e)^2 = 3^2 + 2(3)e + e^2 = 9 + 6e + e^2 = 9 + 6e. < 1448585896 540033 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, notice anything? < 1448585901 53573 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The derivative is the coefficient of e. < 1448585951 663409 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hey, guess what. It always works. At least... given any ordinary function on the real numbers. < 1448586017 336345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh < 1448586033 203575 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, how about the derivative of, I dunno, 5x^2 + 7x + 11? Plug in (x + e), and so you get 5(x + e)^2 + 7(x + e) + 11, which reduces as... < 1448586038 273515 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1448586054 903002 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Is there a way to generalize the dual numbers for automatic differentiation so it works on complex functions? Or no? < 1448586084 691844 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's so complicated that it isn't useful < 1448586098 709268 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5x^2 + 2(5)xe + 5e^2 + 7x + 7e + 11. Drop the e^2 term and factor out e, it's 5x^2 + 7x + 11 + (10x + 7)e. < 1448586107 835801 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The derivative of 5x^2 + 7x + 11 is 10x + 7. < 1448586123 725004 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To generalize to the complex numbers, I think you don't even need to do anything. Just use exactly the same method. < 1448586141 792073 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, now we get polynomial/whatever-the-more-general-term-is derivatives. That looks fun. < 1448586160 480102 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is automatic differentiation the one they never teach? If so, why the /fuck/ would they not teach us this? < 1448586175 821337 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in this particular case, symbolic differentiation would have been much easier. < 1448586192 111313 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than because making up new numbers is weird, and it's not like we've seen that kind of thing before. < 1448586207 575049 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like they've /already/ taught me about i (though I already knew about it long before) < 1448586235 970873 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do symbolic differentiation of that polynomial in my head in five seconds, because I know that the derivative of x^2 is 2x, the derivative of x is 1, and derivatives add together and multiply with constants nicely. < 1448586269 659048 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strangely, it turns out that calculus on the complex numbers is ultimately much *simpler* than calculus on the real numbers. < 1448586284 771514 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448586292 822457 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason for this is that all of the "nasty" cases in the real numbers are impossible to generalize to the complex numbers. < 1448586324 506951 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448586372 504812 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the complex numbers, if a function is differentiable at a point, then it is also differentiable on an entire disk surrounding that point, arbitrarily many times. < 1448586378 206472 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1448586431 173651 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions in the real numbers have no such property. A function can be differentiable just once. It can be differentiable at just one point! < 1448586628 368150 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so regions of the plane where a complex function is differentiable can only be open sets? < 1448586676 264048 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1448586710 601867 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: yup. < 1448586958 745221 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unrelated: < 1448586969 191378 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly wonder if someone's going to see the output of `evil and actually take its advice. < 1448586977 743967 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448586978 480457 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY HAVE MADE THEIR LAST MISTAKE. PUNISH THEM. < 1448586990 789037 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like... all of its advice, not just the parts that aren't actually evil. < 1448586995 454435 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be pretty bad. < 1448586996 802349 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448586997 472881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEIZE IT AND THRUST IT TO THE GROUND. < 1448587005 494153 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's bad advice. < 1448587038 107932 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, エッチ < 1448587050 72721 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... y'know, harmful to other people if taken. < 1448587057 550286 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587058 310141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR ENEMIES ARE WEAK. YOU ARE STRONG. OVERCOME. < 1448587061 874502 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587062 584407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY HAVE MADE THEIR LAST MISTAKE. PUNISH THEM. < 1448587064 651311 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587065 561798 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY HAVE MADE THEIR LAST MISTAKE. PUNISH THEM. < 1448587068 792048 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587069 702348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAIN IS NOTHING. PAIN CANNOT STOP YOU. < 1448587071 684145 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587072 574369 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY HAVE MADE THEIR LAST MISTAKE. PUNISH THEM. < 1448587074 495137 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587075 338732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMPASSION. EMPATHY. MERE WEAKNESSES. < 1448587078 608765 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not very much of it. < 1448587084 585329 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1448587085 297900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :194 \ 295 \ 313 \ 455 \ 503 \ 602 \ 707 \ 714 \ 745 \ 960 < 1448587094 300501 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've seen half of them. < 1448587142 995961 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, let me take an extremely small vote, here. < 1448587148 515688 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I add additional evil, or not? < 1448587202 748670 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca NICK :\oren\ < 1448587221 200149 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: Why did you add an _ to your name? < 1448587224 869039 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, xD < 1448587238 553126 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice that until after I sent it. < 1448587248 967745 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tmntgmnfintfcqgy JOIN :#esoteric < 1448587249 129995 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I vote with the majority < 1448587321 784027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say yes, because there isn't enough and therefore it repeat too much. But, my opinion also is to instead use a larger database and then just add the category tag on as well, such as "evil" and so on. < 1448587338 128073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You could even have more than one per each; and you could use SQLite too) < 1448587355 227332 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Euler has 5, 6, 7, 8, 8, 10, or 12 different ways to import things, depending on how you look at it. I think. Not sure I counted right. < 1448587368 846156 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Euclid, I mean. < 1448587424 265654 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do "import ", "import and and , etc.", or a whole host of other things < 1448587450 207388 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including importing from a module into an existing namespace with " into " < 1448587462 133703 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to go thanksgiving. I'll be back in a bit. < 1448587580 972024 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you later. < 1448587705 87844 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets out the boily magnet
< 1448587716 598195 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1448587742 358141 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1448587742 500870 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1448587825 451553 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right... the fuck am I doing? I'm seriously thinking someone could look at this stuff, think about it, and turn into a mass murderer. < 1448587926 41263 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. I deleted all of the evil advice except one. < 1448587927 28621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1448587927 742397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1448587931 413432 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1448587932 161052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1448587944 991302 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1448587945 680305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ autowelcome_status \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ evil \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ madness \ MaFV < 1448587953 657127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1448587954 401387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :313 < 1448587965 679038 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people come to HackEgo seeking evil advice, they will be told only to kill puppies. < 1448587991 437936 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp derp derp dedederp derp derp dederp derp derp dedederp derp derp < 1448587999 875840 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is more of a cat person < 1448588008 293196 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bhB7EKHdQ < 1448588057 148026 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1448588057 866042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1021) ...I'm organising a picnic on Facebook in rhyming couplets < 1448588116 115661 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1448588116 730331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: good: not found < 1448588131 174283 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'cat "$(find good -type f | shuf -n1)"' > bin/good < 1448588133 410152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588133 552587 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir good < 1448588134 357074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588185 19243 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, someone give me a bunch of random 3-digit numbers. < 1448588200 480117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you have your own dice? < 1448588206 295182 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :786 755 440 643 726 184 007 132 604 351. Thank you. < 1448588224 348976 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Empathize. Always empathize.' > good/786 < 1448588226 718967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588227 956936 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1448588228 680574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/good: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/good: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1448588233 405352 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/good < 1448588235 288824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588236 642050 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`good < 1448588237 347512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empathize. Always empathize. < 1448588253 18299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to add AmigaMML into the list of software that is using tau instead of (or in addition to) pi? < 1448588311 542176 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'It takes strength to admit your own weaknesses.' > good/755 < 1448588313 378354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588313 822894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Still my opinion I think you should put all in one file and then make SQL query to select them (I have used ORDER BY RANDOM() LIMIT 1 to select entry at random; add the WHERE clause as well to select or deselect tags or other stuff < 1448588339 360471 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But SQL is obsolete, man. < 1448588351 688318 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448588355 277371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not < 1448588449 831352 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Your friends are strong. Take their help.' > good/295 < 1448588451 645082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588463 551452 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a "good" suggestion corresponding to each "evil" suggestion. < 1448588490 137798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe you should use the corresponding numbers too? < 1448588513 365703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, you realise you'll have to downcase `good for symmetry < 1448588554 341554 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Feel wronged? They made a mistake. See things from their side, and forgive them.' > 503 < 1448588556 138654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588559 845730 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm doing that. < 1448588566 242592 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1448588570 480450 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv 503 good/503 < 1448588572 834325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448588633 125241 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. evil/503 and evil/960 are pretty similar; they'd pretty much have the same corresponding "good" suggestion. < 1448588764 81197 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'There is a way out. Finding it will be difficult. It may be the hardest thing you've ever done. Find it anyway.' > good/544 < 1448588764 876161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1448588781 255163 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'There is a way out. Finding it will be difficult. It may be the hardest thing you'\''ve ever done. Find it anyway.' > good/544 < 1448588783 438303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1448589093 90731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In SQL you can just write '' for a single ' and you don't have to do like that instead (I think also in Pascal you can write '' for a single ' too, but I am not sure) < 1448589229 671328 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PowerShell too. < 1448589244 110742 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I could have just used double quotes around the whole thing. < 1448589254 119942 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But man, single quotes are so snazzy. < 1448589257 663464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that has its own issues < 1448589271 230083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember sam hughes tried to figure out how to quote a generic string in bash < 1448589283 396969 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "I found $20 on the ground the other day." < 1448589284 87123 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found 0 on the ground the other day. < 1448589285 805746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he concluded that you had to just put \ before every non-alphanumeric < 1448589296 32890 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh boy. < 1448589324 994425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/bash < 1448589327 478703 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're talking about the Canadian Minister of Militia and Defence during World War I, right? < 1448589342 142409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use " in the shell scripts then it does other thing inside the quote too though anyways < 1448589470 293166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such as the example above) < 1448589776 775025 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448589852 245486 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo I\ found\ \$20\ on\ the\ ground\ the\ other\ day < 1448589852 939337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found $20 on the ground the other day < 1448589869 746945 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo \"I\ found\ \$20\ on\ the\ ground\ the\ other\ day < 1448589870 384536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"I found $20 on the ground the other day < 1448589884 688704 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo \"I\ found\ \$20\ on\ the\ ground\ the\ other\ day\"\ he\ said\. < 1448589885 420840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"I found $20 on the ground the other day" he said. < 1448589892 69222 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1448589935 699291 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448590022 711663 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448590026 237091 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :print eval(chr(37).join([``'print eval(chr(37).join([``%s``]*2))[1:-1]'``]*2))[1:-1] < 1448590121 220011 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448590541 372314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448590698 774089 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448591215 123611 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 巣 < 1448591216 7404 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+5DE3 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5DE3] < 1448591304 774695 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448591573 615194 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 底府度庫庭康建式役径待徒得 | sed -e 's/\(\[\|CJK\ \|UNIFIED \|IDEOGRAPH-[0-9A-F]\+\]\)/' < 1448591574 723906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 50: unterminated `s' command \ close failed in file object destructor: \ sys.excepthook is missing \ lost sys.stderr < 1448591580 490403 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 底府度庫庭康建式役径待徒得 | sed -e 's/\(\[\|CJK\ \|UNIFIED \|IDEOGRAPH-[0-9A-F]\+\]\)//' < 1448591581 399263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+5E95 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5E95] [U+5E9C CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5E9C] [U+5EA6 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5EA6] [U+5EAB CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5EAB] [U+5EAD CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5EAD] [U+5EB7 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5EB7] [U+5EFA CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5EFA] [U+5F0F CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5F0F] [U+5F79 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-5F79] [U+5F84 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRA < 1448591585 970073 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 底府度庫庭康建式役径待徒得 | sed -e 's/\(\[\|CJK\ \|UNIFIED \|IDEOGRAPH-[0-9A-F]\+\]\)//g' < 1448591586 874892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+5E95 U+5E9C U+5EA6 U+5EAB U+5EAD U+5EB7 U+5EFA U+5F0F U+5F79 U+5F84 U+5F85 U+5F92 U+5F97 < 1448591773 199544 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. still kanjifying your font? < 1448591793 943253 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1448591857 772984 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448591909 688285 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, NOW I'm back < 1448592027 402255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1448592093 723075 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1448592156 829959 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello boily! < 1448592162 598335 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1448592164 871091 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloily! < 1448592177 144272 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1448592238 737101 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448592239 139950 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm making a usable programming language based on geometry! < 1448592243 261044 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Declarative, naturally) < 1448592390 101042 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sEyRHE3CLyVNwrkh-jsL32MIhtrdUjZ7WMVV8MAd2Kw/edit?usp=sharing < 1448592489 409736 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: too late. euclid alreayd did it. < 1448592503 980095 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newshellom. < 1448592512 261652 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: The language is /called/ Euclid, so yeah xD < 1448592535 169097 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this other language was /made by/ euclid < 1448592542 95454 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few thousand years ago < 1448592882 456454 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Yes, but it can't be used to make a computer say "Hello, World" < 1448592893 524189 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you count a human as a computer, of course < 1448592981 776972 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP! < 1448592991 454192 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"H" has two parallel segments and a perpendicular segment between them < 1448592996 73495 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we could construct this :) < 1448593005 732820 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see much more challenging in "ello, World" < 1448593095 369518 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Yes, but can Euclid's system to asyncronous socketry? < 1448593176 535111 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448593228 174452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is your socketry asynchronous? < 1448593228 316788 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if gdb doesn't work on paragraph answers to your questions as useful? < 1448593246 322266 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Design question: When sets or vectors have an operation performed on them, they have special meanings where it's the operation done on each item in them relative to the other value. I want to have special operators marked that don't behave like this, namely />=/<=/=/!= for sets, but I also want the normal meaning to be available. How should I go about this? My current best idea is to specially mark the operators with a symbol, < 1448593246 593482 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the $ prefix or a . suffix. What do you think, as a randomly selected opinion? < 1448593326 574736 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointwise operators from Matlab, eg with vectors u and v, u .* v will produce pointwise multiplication of them. < 1448593326 749816 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ for "special" or "set" might work... < 1448593337 355701 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1448593360 155611 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to use typable characters for subset/superset/etc, and <> seem like the ideal characters. < 1448593389 10830 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But unless there's some sneaky but logical workaround, the only way to make it work is with a special marker in the operator name < 1448593393 374594 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"c" for subset. ɔ might be harder to get :P < 1448593416 864072 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course c̄ for proper subset.) < 1448593433 6466 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sockets < 1448593439 337706 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but enough silliness, I'm yawning my jaw off. time to sleep. < 1448593440 726813 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But that's not easily typable, unless you're in the future using the Mathematician's Keyboard that I'm going to make someone start selling < 1448593444 667814 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1448593450 639714 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just figure it out on my own xD < 1448593463 871128 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i'm not aware of any ancient greek socket implementation < 1448593465 255143 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may want to check out the space cadet keyboard :D < 1448593469 887752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: POSITIVE CHICKEN < 1448593474 637283 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's the Anonymous Nyan Cat? < 1448593479 89903 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of curiousity < 1448593651 294196 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may or may not have killed the cat. Not the Nyan Cat, though. < 1448595333 636382 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I use for the ASCII midpoint operator? < 1448595355 394027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I'm using _|_, but that looks like perpendicular and, more importantly, is stupid < 1448595364 997698 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, what should I use for the unicode midpoint operator? < 1448595387 695086 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, ⧷ looks good for Unicode midpoint < 1448595726 599442 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a midpoint operator? < 1448595753 861158 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode c̄ < 1448595754 646116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C] [U+0304 COMBINING MACRON] < 1448596070 680056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: In Euclid, it's a unary operator that accepts a line and returns the point at the midpoint of the line < 1448596149 176997 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how about -| < 1448596164 602272 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Thank you! That works! < 1448596207 772443 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it doesn't accept a line, it accepts a segment < 1448596214 531488 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tmntgmnfintfcqgy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1448596270 307937 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a term that encompasses lines, rays, and segments < 1448596319 911837 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1448596362 52225 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448596374 875456 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"line_like" works, I suppose < 1448596391 448456 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear < 1448596396 446826 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lineal < 1448596403 725835 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rectus < 1448596435 974010 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: How about a symbol for perpendicular in ASCII? < 1448596453 207204 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :_L < 1448596460 464845 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1448596467 472337 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Don't think it can have letters, and I'd avoid underscores < 1448596491 333560 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ might work, but it'd be hard to parse properly < 1448596497 127937 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1448596505 847696 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not < 1448596535 473287 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, but perpendicular is binary < 1448596539 456901 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, it'll work easily < 1448597130 917593 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448597195 710789 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448597594 392199 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :added some kanji and ⇜⇝⇞⇟ which were missing from the arrows block < 1448598426 781096 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448599036 330475 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448599076 998775 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols B is missing, in case you weren't aware < 1448599100 375003 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, RULE-DELAYED and REVERSE SOLIDUS WITH HORIZONTAL STROKE are. < 1448599152 707229 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out where to go with Euclid to keep it nearly fully declarative like Haskell is... < 1448599174 977624 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, IO is a problem for declarativeness, but I'll deal with that. < 1448599189 616672 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it's only a BIG problem for functional languages < 1448600833 695750 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1448601512 645457 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Are you active right now? < 1448601685 800263 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1448601693 738949 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surreal Geometry might be an interesting subject < 1448601755 52972 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or entirely meaningless, more likely < 1448601939 607535 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448603158 775642 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448603842 289734 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owpleoedjmytvstc JOIN :#esoteric < 1448605416 245115 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448605421 951931 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448605450 716909 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1448605451 852494 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448605452 357933 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448605657 391364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think my "Eldritch Veil" card should have shroud? < 1448605841 55689 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448605902 67446 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1448606198 931147 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448606277 441967 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448606277 584393 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448606435 189223 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1448607119 351181 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1448607546 38466 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448607898 551555 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1448608766 54110 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448609473 303380 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1448609660 50078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't really understand Eldritch Veil. What is that useful for, except for controlling another player? < 1448609673 32258 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448610046 925699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, stupid unusable webpage < 1448610227 801850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was one of my intentions yes; I don't know if that makes it overpowered. But there is other possibility too if sacrificing something can help you to win before it resolves, or maybe just use with affinity, or whatever something else < 1448610278 504434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not too much overpower since you will need some other cards too but I am not quite sure. If it had shroud though then you cannot target it with Donate or whatever. < 1448610359 607870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the card I put favor texts now do you like that one, or other comment/suggestion even of the newer cards? < 1448610394 707869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't there already some artifact for this that has more uses? < 1448610450 652328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"win before it resolves" -- that is VERY unlikely < 1448610450 794869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1448610451 519243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1448610566 799173 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448610958 614558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are already lots of artifacts for {0} if you only need them for affinity: Accorder's Shield (an equipment from M14), Bone Saw (inverse Shuko from Conflux), Darksteel relic (a useless artifact from NPH), Everflowing Chalice (mana producer), Fountain of Youth, |Herbal Poultice, Kite Shield (another equipment), Lodestone Bauble (bauble means it lets you draw a card), \ < 1448611147 142946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is unlikely I suppose, I don't know if it need to be changed at all actually < 1448611180 527214 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448611187 399103 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448611189 444782 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 QUIT :Changing host < 1448611189 587133 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1448611196 749834 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1448611208 72646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lodestone Bauble (bauble means it lets you draw a card), Memnite (the 1/1 creature), Mishra's Bauble (this one is expensive, but also the best bauble), Ornithopter, Phyrexian Walker, Shield Sphere (a useful wall), Sigil of Distinction (an equipment that's useless for {0}), \ < 1448611398 172884 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448611407 584233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellbook, Spidersilk Net (wow so many equipments), Tormod's Crypt (this one is famous and got reprinted a lot, used against graveyard-related decks), Urza's Bauble (almost as good as Mishra's, but cheap), Welding Jar (this is even sort of useful in an affinity deck, though not as useful as many artifacts for {1} or {2}), Zuran's Orb. < 1448611430 278055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I didn't know there were so many. The only one I currently own in my collection are Ornithopter. < 1448611453 940862 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should invent our own M:tG-like card game < 1448611481 420305 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With strange rules and cards based on memees < 1448611483 674305 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*memes < 1448611485 17640 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1448611517 203968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was thinking of a nethack-themed one sort of, which I could call “Nethack: the Card Game” < 1448611518 635869 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a lot of programming jokes, perhaps even build programming into the card game < 1448611520 775598 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some ideas but I couldn't get it to work reasonably yet. < 1448611553 131620 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("foo" would be a morphic card, which does something morphy) < 1448611560 41082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, nethack gives all the memes. < 1448611618 189662 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What /is/ nethack, exactly? < 1448611647 807388 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1448611652 536729 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yay for wiki) < 1448611655 537673 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1448611690 325123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: head over to #nethack or #nethack4 and ask there < 1448611690 467476 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cultic game < 1448611690 467559 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :video game < 1448611690 609837 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What should the data model of this card game be? xD < 1448611701 119364 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured < 1448611706 385027 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on google < 1448611728 529284 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, esocards should definitely feature Nomicy goodness < 1448611753 585710 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "data model"? < 1448611772 381444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What is the flow of "information" within the card game? < 1448611782 241504 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it could change based on card playing... < 1448611833 336865 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never played one of those trading card games, so it'll probably come out horribly xD < 1448611844 695882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't really know enough about that card game yet. I have problems with the basic workings and base rules, not the individual cards. < 1448611870 418316 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Which card game? < 1448611884 581572 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jja2U09wCrBVdGJxtiNBjCd9N8fE1mjDvNhN8eyDaLE/edit?usp=sharing is where I'm compiling ideas, if you happen to think of anything < 1448611951 488753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the hypothetical Nethack: the Card Game < 1448611966 970815 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1448612012 295231 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, were you confused by "what is the flow of \"information\" within the card game"? That was me explaining what I meant by data model within a card game < 1448612016 803814 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, did you mean M:tG or some other trading card game (Pokémon TCG, Yu Gi Oh, etc, there are a lot these days) < 1448612079 500047 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I meant the card game I'm starting work on right now and am likely never going to finish, more than likely abandoning within a few days at most < 1448612082 960818 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esocards < 1448612094 343927 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Item #1 on the idea list: Get a better name < 1448612137 342701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no no no < 1448612137 485185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you decide the name LAST < 1448612160 78452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you know what the game is like < 1448612160 258615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :until then, a development codename is fine < 1448612165 616267 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well yes, but it's priority 1, meaning as soon as it's possible to name it's the highest priority < 1448612191 825580 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Renaming is always an option, unless it happens to get incredibly popular and it stops being an option < 1448612201 671916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like "esocards" as a development codename, just take a random name from some epic fiction that has tons of named characters. < 1448612201 814432 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't choose a popular name like "Athena" which has hundreds of things named of them < 1448612220 692028 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "esocards" is good for now < 1448612235 765325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, I don't get why people still keep naming everything Athene or Athena < 1448612258 779660 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-230-169.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1448612438 230796 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one of my ideas is that you need to have a moderate-to-advanced understanding of computer science to play at an effective level xD < 1448612446 758453 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mind you, Mr. Orbán's government naming everything from Széchenyi István is also bad. I'm especially pissed off by the jerk move where they renamed Roosevelt tér (in Budapest).) < 1448612565 572870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Pallas Athene already has a freaking city and a noble metal named of him, isn't that enough? < 1448612565 754561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what? to play what? < 1448612585 663561 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Esocards < 1448612668 205264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you want such a card game? why not just take Lambda: the Gathering for that? < 1448612672 291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Lambda:_the_Gathering < 1448612696 936235 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1448612736 201346 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That works, but I feel like spending some time and attempting to develop my own. 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:sixtustha5!~root@unaffiliated/sixtustha5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448632602 151896 :andrew!~andrew@183.54.14.84 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1448632832 73929 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjapeetbebxvphtb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1448633057 605211 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lag: 166, it's probably happening again < 1448633069 101330 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody know if there is a rulebook based on an oots-based system? < 1448633071 31590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd just love to play belkar < 1448633072 675043 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448633166 65412 :sixtustha5!~root@unaffiliated/sixtustha5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448633173 751413 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i thought oots was officially D&D 3.5 < 1448633201 67506 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right 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:olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86602 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86615 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86629 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86642 :rntz!~rntz@pool-96-248-68-233.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86655 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86668 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86719 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86733 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86745 :trn!~trn@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86758 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@2001:41d0:51:1::1d31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448635747 86772 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1448636134 692476 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :infamy! who would dare?!?! < 1448636134 854305 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1448636135 594394 :sixtustha51!~root@199.58.81.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448636260 655125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45680&oldid=45649 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+226) 10/* Specification */ < 1448636311 478570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45681&oldid=45680 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+8) 10/* Compiler */ < 1448636730 577475 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome sixtustha51 < 1448636730 739336 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1448636730 739408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1448636732 475958 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08sixtustha51: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1448636751 963024 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks lagged < 1448637092 407217 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit < 1448637186 708072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MATL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45682&oldid=45681 5* 03Luis Mendo 5* (+1) 10/* Specification */ < 1448638023 709070 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448638450 310197 :doesthiswork1!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1448638494 705878 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448638971 95903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FSA I posted yesterday is incorrect... < 1448638991 332015 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OS, 5) should go to OI, not OO < 1448639133 359193 :sixtustha51!~root@199.58.81.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1448639303 98361 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it now < 1448639705 476454 :spiette!~spiette@132.204.251.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1448639744 704528 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448640017 328056 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett In the complex numbers, if a function is differentiable at a point, then it is also differentiable on an entire disk surrounding that point, arbitrarily many times. <-- i don't think that's quite right... you need in a disk to start with. < 1448640017 490047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448640473 82019 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1448641164 192071 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 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:tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 22711 :Froox!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 22723 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 22737 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 22750 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179102 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179213 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179238 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179263 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179283 :rntz!~rntz@pool-96-248-68-233.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179303 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179342 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179362 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179382 :trn!~trn@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179402 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@2001:41d0:51:1::1d31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643518 179422 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643715 825131 :j-bot!~j-bot@45.79.186.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448643726 946298 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zyswmtyrqqaqgrwd JOIN :#esoteric < 1448644727 410076 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think that works if f is continuous < 1448644739 584503 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448644767 164586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no way < 1448644782 401208 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1448644812 196578 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if the function is _twice_ differentiable in a point, that might be enough < 1448644834 744933 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1448645088 19068 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zyswmtyrqqaqgrwd QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448645088 180950 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448645171 53389 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1448645273 569088 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1448645497 896425 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uhanencwimzuxqyn JOIN :#esoteric < 1448645506 260174 :trn!~trn@trnsz.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448645774 686691 :trn!jhj@198.58.100.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448645851 53362 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: if it's twice differentiable, then by definition, it must be differentiable in a neighborhood, so yeah. < 1448645853 552993 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448645893 411141 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448645895 464517 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 QUIT :Changing host < 1448645895 626324 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1448646028 708494 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: even with continuity, there's just too many ways you could mess it up in a neighboorhood. or put a different way, you can "obviously" make a function that has derivative 0 in a point, but completely chaotic (apart from being continuous) near it. < 1448646099 733828 :trn!jhj@198.58.100.240 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448646132 760110 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i think abs(z)^2 is an example (not chaotic, but not differentiable near it either) < 1448646146 549502 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*near 0 < 1448646147 315446 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448646160 252799 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uhanencwimzuxqyn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448646188 205170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. < 1448646190 943754 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's _real_ differentiable everywhere, off course.) < 1448646278 433950 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :being the same a z * conj(z) < 1448646280 803781 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as < 1448646320 652063 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of < 1448646420 711983 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448646656 410090 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448646680 547398 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pgcxyptcwxfgppmv JOIN :#esoteric < 1448646717 528985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/4XHhbc is quite possibly the most elegant-looking fizzbuzz I have written < 1448646907 469484 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1448647026 433809 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448647028 737271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second Bargain {2W} Instant ;; Target opponent draws a card. ;; You gain 8 life if it is your main phase and there aren't any other objects on the stack, otherwise you gain 5 life. < 1448647103 68119 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also runs in O(n log n) time, which is much more efficient than other fizzbuzz programs I have written < 1448647211 620619 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess technically that's optimal, because the output has O(n log n) length < 1448647308 463797 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that is a good point < 1448647310 835286 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/O/Theta/ or something < 1448647337 772167 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448647391 798305 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@2a01:4f8:191:22b3::d QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448647415 297131 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448647530 760923 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric < 1448647733 218967 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for optimal fizzbuzz! < 1448647805 561187 :trn!~trn@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448647838 280401 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1448648147 811565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official "Bargain" card isn't quite good so I made up this new one is better? What is your opinion of such thing? < 1448648183 727093 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448648379 782257 :trn!~trn@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448648380 166769 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric < 1448648386 531322 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1448648388 733397 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: unplayably bad < 1448648469 999663 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2WW gain 8 life would probably be about fair, maybe 3W < 1448648488 497893 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even that would be a weak card < 1448648567 668214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed it to an instant rather than a sorcery, and if used as a sorcery you gain 1 additional life point (otherwise you gain less) < 1448648700 941394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would still use it though < 1448648780 18178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do you think there are other changes? Even if other than how you specify? < 1448648961 738805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448648977 570334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this "Second Bargain" is much better than the ordinary "Bargain" < 1448649106 993168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I am also the guy who would play something like "Fateseal 1, and then target opponent draws a card") < 1448649229 167666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1448649234 754600 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1448649748 798249 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1448649832 347340 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl NICK :MoALTz < 1448651953 193992 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1448651967 893787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: unplayably bad in limited or constructed? < 1448651976 223042 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's life gain, so there's a big difference < 1448652062 2975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for lifegain, I prefer black's method. Drain life from opponent or from a creature. < 1448652420 335888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny to see mathematics from 1992 typeset in TeX in the computer modern font, but with professionally hand-drawn figures < 1448652959 364023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want to know, it can be different in limited or constructed, as well as other stuff I think < 1448653041 897239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also this new one is forcing opponent to draw a card as an instant, while the old one is not an instant. < 1448653096 762417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I made up several more new cards too. Some of which now have favor texts and/or notes too. < 1448653423 271364 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.21.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448654057 703395 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :nvd < 1448654546 38701 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448655047 173658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: to compare, there's an instant for 2WW that gains you 7 life, and an instant for 2W that gains you 6 life and has an advantage. < 1448655068 202935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about lifegain cards with serious drawbacks though. < 1448655109 963116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I mean, I do know about some. I'm happy to sacrifice my infinite toughness creature to gain infinite life from it. < 1448655182 254982 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Animal Boneyard and Starlit Sanctum for that < 1448655429 63398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see what else I could use for that slot. I have a Condemn, but that only works while attacking, which restricts my options. < 1448655515 374504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that there are many different formats, not only Constructed and Limited but even many different kind of Limited formats such as Draft, Rochester Draft, Team Rochester Draft, Sealed, Duplicate Sealed, etc. And then, there is duel decks designing < 1448655520 9170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an aura called Death Watch < 1448655559 862034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I looked at that; I like that too < 1448655561 530107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, I said "limited or constructed" because life gain cards like that are famously very bad in limited and only somewhat bad in constructed < 1448655599 918139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of Death Watch is that it works on any creature (not only clerics) and has a low mana cost, but the serious drawback is that it's off-color < 1448655615 241597 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that deck must use white to get the infinite toughness creature < 1448655704 722162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but the problem with Death Watch is that if I put it to the creature, then my opponents won't kill that creature that turn, so I won't actually gain the life < 1448655729 764088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's Devour Flesh < 1448655732 915998 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1448655816 904610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How bad it is can also depend on circumstances though. Death Watch can be good but it is not an instant (although you may be able to cause it to trigger as an instant) < 1448655863 678942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work, because I can't kill the creature. or at least, I can kill it by sacrificing it to another card to gain life, but then I don't need the aura < 1448655890 657174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this Disciple of Griselbrand < 1448655922 628020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has the advantage that it's a cleric < 1448655933 782134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and works at instant speed < 1448655943 594070 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's also off-color < 1448655951 69906 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bit too much mana < 1448655961 605775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see what else there is < 1448655970 16643 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1448656178 478279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's this strange card called Life Chisel, which is surprisingly cheap (card price) given that it's an Antiquities uncommon, with the drawback that it works only in the upkeep so it restricts my options to the Kors as opposed to Shuko, and also costs {4} which is too much.] < 1448656187 861870 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.21.64 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1448656221 751172 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448656276 156259 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this so called Miren, the Moaning Well which activates for {3} but otherwise is good, but it's a somewhat pricy rare < 1448656346 23733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper Burial triggers when the creature dies, so it's like Death Watch, but it's for {3W} < 1448656444 620687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Sheltering Word which is interesting because it is of dual use: I can use it either to protect my creature, or to gain life, either of which is useful in this deck. < 1448656449 666434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's green. < 1448656499 912089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play all-colors deck < 1448656518 701206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. this one definitely can't work all colors. < 1448656533 429272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might work in two colors, maybe, but even that would strain it. < 1448656575 773495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and Worthy Cause! I actually use that in the deck and I forgot. < 1448656625 166420 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, then it seems there's nothing better for this really. I just need to buy more copies of Worthy Cause and of Nomads En-Kor. < 1448656649 77733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus replace the few cards that aim to win after I go off with infinite life. < 1448656687 906529 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, Elixir of Immortality had not yet been printed when I made that deck, so I have much worse replacements. < 1448656865 692366 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and four of the two mana Kor too, probably, if I don't have four yet. < 1448656891 749656 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrior en-Kor < 1448657006 688183 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1448657108 694379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, let me check how many I have of each of the cards. I think I have 1 Worthy cause, 4 Starlit Sanctum, dunno how many Animal Boneyard, 1 Nomads en-Kor, at least one Warrior en-Kor, 4 Shuko, 4 of that cleric thingy, and < 1448657124 722013 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and I have to buy these newfangled newly printed cards that are like the cleric but for cheaper < 1448657147 471845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some other old one, but I think I've looked at the new ones for that slot and they're better. < 1448657160 105790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny though: < 1448657212 236759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another format can be duel decks with a duplicate sealed sideboard which may be swapped in before the game is started < 1448657247 626150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make an infinite mana deck based on Krosan Restorer, and later they print the much better Arbor Elf and now a two mana version too. < 1448657315 827573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I build a deck based on two creatures that can block any number of creatures (Wall of Glare and Ironfist Crusher) and later they printed multiple cheaper white creatures where that ability was priced lower. < 1448657372 24756 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I build this infinite toughness deck with Daru Spiritualist and whatever the other similar creature is, and they print a better one. < 1448657409 170497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like any of my rule/format variant? Or if you have suggestions for changing the "Traitor Scheming" game if you think there is something wrong with it < 1448657428 414491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if I want a better version of any card printed, I just need to build a combo deck with it and then wait ten years? < 1448657437 389933 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than ten years really < 1448657439 694994 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-104-105.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1448657479 569370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where's this Traitor Scheming game described? < 1448657486 866078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other variants? < 1448657678 70346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://zzo38computer.org/0textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/traitor_scheming.var < 1448657735 393999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Currently it doesn't work on HTTP due to filename extension and I am not sure how to fix it. If you know how to make everything there just text/plain then you can tell me please, it can work with both HTTP and Gopher then) < 1448657804 169572 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be able to help with the Apache thing, but I'll check it out from Gopher for now I think < 1448657920 116074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is the 0 part of the url? < 1448657930 910110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got it without the 0 < 1448657940 876434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe gopher urls work that way < 1448657944 140618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but it is the type code and is not a part of the selector string. If you are using raw connections, omit the 0 < 1448657950 930865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1448657957 969791 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got it without the 0 < 1448657979 751226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448658009 269776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any software that uses URLs, the 0 should be required; omit the 0 if you are not using a URL < 1448658140 828533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as for the apache, edit your apache configuration file (or .htaccess file if the apache config allows that) to add (possibly only for some directories) either "AddType text/plain .var" or "DefaultType text/plain" or "ForceType text/plain" < 1448658238 207200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the last one in .htaccess and that changed the icons but did not prevent the error. I will try the second one too to see if it works, although I do want text/plain for everything under the textfile directory and its subdirectories (but not other directories). < 1448658270 185905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't work < 1448658356 179520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you may need to change your main apache config then < 1448658358 540789 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a moment < 1448658394 481561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It clearly does recognize "ForceType text/plain" because it is changing the icons for all of the files to the text files icon < 1448658431 632257 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cpiwtqrjsrbtbkjd QUIT :Changing host < 1448658431 834057 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1448658431 834126 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1448658431 834148 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cpiwtqrjsrbtbkjd JOIN :#esoteric < 1448658432 477729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does AddType work? if not, find the AllowOverride line in your main apache config and can you tell me what it says? < 1448658441 813473 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there maybe more than one, directory specific. < 1448658496 566954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AllowOverride All for /var/www/ < 1448658511 281038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and no other options? hmm < 1448658534 462471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I now added: RemoveHandler .var to the same /var/www/textfile/.htaccess file after ForceType text/plain and now it works. < 1448658543 546075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you checked if there's something in the error logs about config file errors when you restart apache and then load ... < 1448658547 50794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1448658582 830098 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it works on http now < 1448658594 29597 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I rememebered wrong < 1448658606 9674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 3 Worthy Cause, 4 Starlit Sanctum, 4 Animal Boneyard, < 1448658786 276450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 Nomads en-Kor, < 1448659418 276276 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-106-73.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fun solution for the Clojure threading macros in Heresy: https://github.com/jarcane/heresy/blob/f58415a79fd9ec78e5f16eeeb79b3e8efa845e82/examples/pipeland.hsy < 1448659633 50904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of game? It is the Archenemy game but no shared team turns are used and there might be one traitor. If the scheming player receives a traitor card then he knows that he plays alone but other player don't know. If all players receive blank card, then nobody knows until the game is finished. < 1448659820 353693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 Daru Spiritualist, 1 Warrior en-Kor, 4 Outrider en-Kor, (4 Palace Guard which is the card they printed later than I made the Wall of Glare deck), < 1448660015 754863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 Task Force, 4 Spirit en-Kor, 4 Lancers en-Kor (these expensive ones aren't useful for this deck of course). < 1448660022 779947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448660062 216248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 4 Shuko. < 1448660139 413116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't I have Icatian Javeliners though? < 1448660147 256291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need it for a deck, just find it strange < 1448660165 345661 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icatian Javelineers < 1448660232 485371 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 mtg werewolf? < 1448660272 624778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what about werewolves? < 1448660301 845030 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see! < 1448660305 953619 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another Javelineer < 1448660311 420054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elite Javelineer < 1448660342 9305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about werewolf? < 1448660344 112477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :9ED < 1448660396 777639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what werewolf? all I see is a well-reputed scientist. no werewolf here. not even at full moon. < 1448660430 728242 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that /r/incest exists? < 1448660476 129579 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Homicidal Brute isn't a werewolf) < 1448660540 605062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor is Delver of Secrets) < 1448660891 565316 :nvd!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I did not but I do not think I am much surprised < 1448660970 192600 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: re traitor variant, interesting. I've played or seen some games with hidden roles and they're often interesting: mafia, the card game version of whatever that western themed game is called, the gold miners card game. < 1448661013 369577 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/western/wild west/ < 1448661055 804913 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's called Bang < 1448661230 558706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Napoleon card game is a trick game with ordinary playing cards, where the declarer names a card and whoever holds that card is the declarer's partner; other players do not know who is his partner until the card is played (even the declarer doesn't know, unless he names a card he holds and therefore plays alone), although for example if he says six of diamonds and another player fails to follow diamonds they can know he isn't them < 1448661319 939429 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh yes, there's that too < 1448661463 536616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :four-player Snapszer, a trick game with cards has that mechanic < 1448661520 946099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :play with the top 24 cards, deal 6 to each, declarer calls card from first 3, that card decides his partner and its color is the trump color < 1448661553 141232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this isn't meant as a complete spec) < 1448661659 712391 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448661757 997556 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I think my Gmail got hacked yesterday < 1448661784 212309 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the only place I put my gmail password was Bluestacks, which I thought was safe because I had friends who used it < 1448661813 782637 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /had/ < 1448661899 527218 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448661920 915711 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see what the newer cards with an ability like Daru Spiritualist and Task Force were. < 1448661958 481394 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily, I had a backup email on Yahoo < 1448661975 877321 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So hopefully they didn't harvest all my contacts and start sending them spam, possibly even from my account < 1448662003 846083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an old card Angelic Protector but that's not better than those two. < 1448662067 293358 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps a trading card game mixed with an actualy, WoW-like (that is, moving a character around) RPG would be interesting. Then again, that's probably been done a million times. < 1448662136 595108 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Horobi, Death's Wail which is really interesting (even if black) < 1448662159 447674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~ATH14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45683&oldid=42295 5* 03162.231.140.49 5* (+3731) 10 < 1448662213 519316 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1448662219 456660 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone updated ~ATH < 1448662220 456075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a different deck, and the Kors and Shuko won't target creatures the opponent controls, but I think there are other nice options for triggering Horobi < 1448662271 268346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if not quite free < 1448662284 594927 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've figured out how to make a Fungeoid IDE < 1448662307 725074 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Insert-based editing. You don't have to hit backspace to change characters < 1448662329 898123 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) ctrl- changes the direction the insert cursor moves when you hit keys < 1448662343 790790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought of a idea of a kind of game with both the card and with board with pieces that can be moved, but this idea of game is probably too complicated to do without computer < 1448662353 46130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Based on something I dreamt) < 1448662372 474501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there is a free way too: Martyrdom < 1448662428 833439 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Soltari Guerillas < 1448662512 935037 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you ever heard of Knightmare? < 1448662520 305626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think so < 1448662535 540403 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's a game like that. < 1448662569 673316 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll incorporate so many different game-type features into Esocards that it's impossible for a normal human being to understand the true state of the game. THAT is my goal. < 1448662624 748237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually mine has many differences including hex grid and possibly one cell you might know what is there but opponent doesn't know, and the state of one individual cell is also complicated < 1448662637 582362 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, to cause a sense of Awe and stuff < 1448662638 531787 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1448662640 338333 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea < 1448662658 920433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, strange. apaprently there's no more of this kind < 1448662659 294492 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name for that set of shapes that infinitely tiles the plane without ever reapeating? < 1448662663 13827 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*repeating < 1448662691 657481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Angelic Protector and the two I have are the only ones it seems < 1448662705 298181 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they printed another one or two < 1448662744 586912 :Froox!~Frooxius@193.86.27.79 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1448662760 250094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~ATH14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45684&oldid=45683 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+54) 10Alternative to suicide < 1448662797 365837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Index was reprinted in M13? oh right, I think I noticed this already, and was surprised about it already. < 1448662832 662880 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What if we were to make a tesselational-position board game that used Penrose Tiling as its board form? < 1448662838 437642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This board game I was describing is "Slugterra Hex Game") < 1448662848 887211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You can try that, OK < 1448662861 125764 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might < 1448662890 410941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is pieces movement then? Just to cells sharing an edge, or what if you want to do like chess with rook, bishop, knight, etc? < 1448662959 615036 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's the problem. I don't think Chess could be done normally; you'd have to invent new pieces with more penrosian mathematical properties < 1448662964 998341 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but which Penrose tiling? there's a continuum many of them. would you use a fixed one, or one chosen randomly at the start of each game? < 1448662989 49319 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously less than continuum many if you have a bounded size game board) < 1448662994 52516 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Probably a randomly-selected one, fitting certain rules if necessary. < 1448663012 140929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: right < 1448663057 927905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it could be a kind of chess variant based on such Penrose geometry. < 1448663090 638608 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, I might use a fixed one for simplicity < 1448663101 885526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all very similar of course, so it's like Agent Smith < 1448663113 102797 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would still have randomness featured: a fixed tiling, but not always the same part < 1448663125 612897 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not just a chess variant; I think I'm going to add this to Esocards < 1448663139 449177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I mean Agent Smith in the sequel, when he plays Mirror Entity < 1448663224 148684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK do it that way then. < 1448663294 131891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: different tilings, or different parts of the same infinite or very large tiling, that's practically the same thing for a finite game < 1448663339 478345 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Practically, except that different parts of the same tiling will still fit some sort of pattern, even if it's not periodic < 1448663409 456552 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a feature: < 1448663430 932272 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can execute spells, which are basically just a command prompt, by typing into the command prompt < 1448663435 764335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but all those different tilings are compatible and any bounded part of one can be found in any other tiling anyway, so that's already true. < 1448663469 103643 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally, the game has a central Semi-thue system that modifies spells before they are executed. The STS affects all players. May only hold temporarily. < 1448663486 538389 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's what I was expecting xD < 1448663529 811268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, one of the things you can do with the STS (however you modify it) is add a rule that erases certain words from spells, thus limiting that for all players. < 1448663560 136581 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that spells will be stack-based and cease executing when they encounter nonsense < 1448663619 195579 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you can declare that the element earth, for example (it may not actually be a cheesy four-elements thing in the final game) can't be use by using "earth::=" when prompted to enter a rule < 1448663635 371010 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It will /obviously/ be a cheesy 12-elements thing) < 1448663660 788322 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, good night now < 1448663668 874820 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By preventing players from using earth, you effectively limit yourself and your opponent from using roughly 1/4 of available spells. < 1448663758 257417 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may be good for your strategy if you don't rely on earth, but you may later be in a bind when using earth may've been useful (e.g. stuck underground, wishing you hadn't blocked yourself from using earth so that you could cast the Inverse Jesus ("Landswimming") spell) < 1448663826 762606 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think of that? Semi-thue systems in a videogame. < 1448663929 906844 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh oooh, additionally, semi-thue system rules are applied in a random order, so I figure that when you get the chance to add a new rule, you can add a spell that turns "foo" into "earth" and thus reenable your ability to use earth by typing "foo". However, since the rules are applied randomly, it would only work 50% of the time. < 1448664129 200524 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better, you'd be able to tell it that certain rules are prioritized above others, but it isn't exact and is kind of pricy < 1448664161 426783 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1448664635 800463 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uniqfyrltmlgxwdv QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1448664679 416692 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1448664792 435400 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cpiwtqrjsrbtbkjd QUIT :Excess Flood < 1448664966 431751 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-babkzmtmddkdzezc JOIN :#esoteric < 1448665319 743657 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1448665446 50834 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1448666083 284039 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan So can you give a counterexample to my assertion that if a function is differentiable at a point, then it's also differentiable on a disc surrounding that point? < 1448666083 445914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1448666179 465191 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: multiply any everywhere-continuous-but-nowhere-differentiable function f(x) by x^2 and you're done < 1448666199 367035 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the result is differentiable only at x=0 and nowhere else) < 1448666211 722257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sin(1/x^2)*x^2 around 0 is sort of standard < 1448666258 62107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: + bounded < 1448666258 467969 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that works. I think in the complex numbers, that's not differentiable at 0. < 1448666274 30055 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it surely is < 1448666280 256806 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even continuous at 0. < 1448666287 395623 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-qnomzpqimwiotjwf JOIN :#esoteric < 1448666326 877493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you have a point there < 1448666339 37821 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sin%281%2Fx^2%29*x^2+where+x+%3D+0.0001+sqrt%28i%29 < 1448666419 351777 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I didn't know it was supposed to be for complex numbers and mauris' idea is valid anyway < 1448666420 169208 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(z) = |z|^2 at 0? < 1448666456 745503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could've dwelled a bit longer on the term "disk" before translating it to "interval" though) < 1448666507 235566 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the complex numbers, f(z) = |z|^2 is differentiable nowhere. < 1448666514 739200 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :z=0 < 1448666528 263258 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, lemme think about that. < 1448666608 487075 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually sounds right. < 1448666629 819554 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see. < 1448666713 937580 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limit of |z|^2/z near z = 0? Well, |z| is z/sgn(z), making that z^2/(z sgn(z)^2), which reduces to z/sgn(z)^2. < 1448666753 458412 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, I think you're right. < 1448666936 879621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please tell me how to install the new SQLite on this Ubuntu? I ask them how to do but they won't tell me how. < 1448667114 719163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1448667125 861587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( curl http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20150924/install-amd64-minimal-20150924.iso | dd of=/dev/sda ) < 1448667184 350752 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run curl http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20150924/install-amd64-minimal-20150924.iso | dd of=/dev/sda < 1448667186 472444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd: opening `/dev/sda': Read-only file system \ Failed to connect to socket 2. \ % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current \ Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed \ < 1448667216 533865 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stack Magic seems like it'll be an interesting language < 1448667224 561579 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*language/game < 1448667267 111423 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should base it on a subset of the actual elements and call them the classical elements xD < 1448667307 545681 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 elements, five or so manifestations. < 1448667318 865024 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The source of that command was this hilarious experiment, https://www.twitchinstalls.com/ ) < 1448667897 582193 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/121502/ending-a-declarative-statement-with-a-question-mark is this irritating? < 1448667903 911335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha < 1448667904 194336 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 278 seconds < 1448668455 209216 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I don't know what you mean? < 1448668469 308510 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly that < 1448668473 448933 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people find it irritating? < 1448668485 501986 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1448668525 264943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly wouldn't use a question mark there. (Except ironically, obviously?) < 1448668526 68119 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously i'm not a native speaker and i see it quite often but my point of view may be skewed < 1448668602 783038 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if it's not a question then it shouldn't have a question mark. However, given that text is a rather limiting medium, in interactive use (on IRC and the like), I can understand using it to convey some level of uncertainty. I suspect I've done that as well. < 1448668625 863438 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1448668629 22075 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1448668676 391525 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tend to do that. < 1448668684 445442 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I guess it's, like, some sort of... coin or something?" < 1448668698 354816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1448668718 361245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*yzz* < 1448668719 295803 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/qzyzzalroum wisdom/xyzzy < 1448668725 980776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qzyzzalroum < 1448668726 849985 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should start the crossword over. < 1448668787 243129 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xyzzy < 1448668788 803331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happens. < 1448668794 705364 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, obviously.