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00:03:23 <copumpkin> allo :)
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00:07:22 <copumpkin> unusually warm right now
00:07:33 <copumpkin> how's the certification authority?
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00:08:14 <copumpkin> I see
00:08:32 <shachaf> unusuall cold
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00:08:45 <shachaf> or maybe usually cold for december, i don't know
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00:09:41 <shachaf> i don't remember where in the state you are
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00:11:38 <Mayu17> hola
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00:15:37 <oerjan> `bienvenido Mayu172 
00:15:38 <HackEgo> Mayu172: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
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00:16:37 <Mayu172> this chat is for what?
00:16:53 <oerjan> esoteric programming languages
00:17:15 <Mayu172> j
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00:55:06 <fizzie> That's like nighttime.
00:55:12 <fizzie> Tomorrow it's supposed to be 16 degrees.
00:56:20 <fizzie> One of the outdoor ads (for heaters, or insulation, or windows, or something like that) said something like "England is cold - deal with it", which was kind of ridiculous at least from a Finnish point of view.
00:56:24 <fizzie> @metar EFHK
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01:02:17 <lifthrasiir> https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/blob/ef50f1f/src/process.py#L1045 I feel hopeless.
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01:03:48 <\oren\> lifthrasiir: wow, that's an awfulbug
01:05:18 <lifthrasiir> \oren\: it really is frustrating, it is completely independent of glyph composition and cmap format; the only relevant factor seems to be a glyph index (plus a script).
01:05:49 <lifthrasiir> Uniscribe internally uses dozens of shaping engines, and some of them seems to have this problem
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01:07:15 <lifthrasiir> I still hope (!) that I was wrong and my font had a problem, but the erratic behavior suggests that it isn't the case here
01:07:34 <\oren\> hmm. I wonder why I haven't seen it yet. well, I still haven't got thousands of hangul
01:07:47 <\oren\> I should probably work on that now
01:08:26 <lifthrasiir> \oren\: in the specific example, Hangul syllables started to map from glyph index 2008 thru 13179. only 40 glyphs from 2008 to 2047 had the problem.
01:08:42 <\oren\> what's Effi's finest fluffy waffles?
01:09:05 <\oren\> Ah. well in my font those would prbably not end up being hangul.
01:10:07 <\oren\> maybe it would fall into the range of weird mat symbols?
01:10:19 <\oren\> s/mat/math/
01:10:25 <lifthrasiir> \oren\: did you draw a wrong symbol? :p
01:10:45 <\oren\> where?
01:11:01 <lifthrasiir> "<\oren\> Ah. well in my font those would prbably not end up being hangul."
01:11:03 <lifthrasiir> this one
01:11:36 <\oren\> oh. I mean that those glyph indices would be math symbols
01:12:20 <lifthrasiir> well, glyph indices are independent of characters
01:12:32 <lifthrasiir> but cmap maps characters to glyph indices
01:12:58 <\oren\> yeah. and my cmap is mostly sorted by unicode point
01:13:57 <lifthrasiir> heh, then it may mean that you have only about 0x2000 characters before Hangul syllables
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01:43:16 <boily> fungot: say, how many nostrils do you have?
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01:48:39 * boily mapoles the fungot
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01:53:36 <ToTellGo> dammit
01:53:52 <lifthrasiir> how does fungot work?
01:53:52 <fungot> lifthrasiir: because you can't have a secure, undisclosed location, to the existing facilities. nothing unnatural in that.
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01:54:08 <lifthrasiir> fungot: thank you for the information.
01:54:08 <fungot> lifthrasiir: the definition of standard ml," especially the part about identifiers only reads " the regular expression test with a few bugs fixed.
01:54:22 <boily> lifthellorasiir.
01:54:32 <lifthrasiir> I've expected that!
01:54:44 <lifthrasiir> bhelloily.
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02:16:17 <boily> unexpecthellørjan!
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02:20:33 <oerjan> backscrohelly
02:35:44 <boily> børjanne nuit! good nigthrasiir! bfungonne nuitt!
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02:36:52 <oerjan> i think he's used that adjective before.
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03:00:43 <\oren\> I now have all medials done
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03:01:36 <\oren\> so thus I can generate hangul from G-A to G-I-H 
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07:01:30 <oerjan> hm i say this girl genius comic makes higgs even more likely to be the "spymaster"...
07:01:52 <oerjan> because he and gil were the ones who witnessed it
07:02:47 <Ellbereth> ?
07:03:56 <oerjan> jenka said she had a message from the spymaster
07:04:13 <oerjan> and higgs is _very_ well positioned to spy on gil...
07:04:23 <oerjan> since gil thinks he's doing the opposite.
07:06:27 <oerjan> well, maybe. he probably suspects, he saw through wooster after all.
07:08:31 <Ellbereth> but what does this have to do with esoteric programming languages?
07:08:52 <oerjan> nothing.
07:09:08 <Ellbereth> Then why are you talking about it in #esoteric
07:09:56 <oerjan> because the comic is popular here
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07:10:18 <hppavilion[1]> hadu!
07:10:22 <oerjan> admittedly no one else who read it seems to be awake...
07:10:26 <oerjan> *+s
07:10:33 <Ellbereth> which comic?
07:10:51 <oerjan> see above
07:11:34 <oerjan> http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php#.VnEKlcHKxjo
07:11:47 <oerjan> ...there's that stupid anchor again
07:12:11 <oerjan> i think i got rid of it once by blocking something...
07:13:49 <oerjan> dammit so many ad sites on this page
07:14:04 <shachaf> http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comi.php#⚓ hth
07:14:16 <oerjan> wat
07:14:32 <oerjan> shachaf: i think you typoed something?
07:14:40 <shachaf> true
07:14:44 <shachaf> that was meant to be comic.php
07:15:00 <oerjan> the point is that it redirects to the anchor
07:15:16 <oerjan> because of some script running on it
07:16:21 <shachaf> anyway i'm half asleep
07:16:29 <shachaf> and reading about us tax law
07:20:31 <olsner> ^metar ESSL
07:20:33 <olsner> ~metar ESSL
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07:50:02 <fizzie> "Now"? It's been like ages! 
07:50:52 <fizzie> Since 2014-08-10.
07:50:56 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
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07:57:01 <fizzie> http://sprunge.us/PSjY   see how it shifts
07:57:24 <fizzie> (No calls to either pre-2013.)
08:01:37 <olsner> wow, if you manage to have a multiple of 256 conflicts in a merge, git would treat it as successful
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08:02:15 <earenndil> report it to git
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08:08:18 <hppavilion[1]> earenndil: "Hey! Git! Get over here!"
08:08:27 <hppavilion[1]> "I have something to report!"
08:08:50 <hppavilion[1]> olsner: That tis a fail.
08:10:08 <earenndil> git=the git dcvs development team
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09:20:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45889&oldid=45878 * Luis Mendo * (+0) /* Compiler */
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09:30:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45890&oldid=45889 * Luis Mendo * (+64) /* Specification */
09:31:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45891&oldid=45890 * Luis Mendo * (-766) 
09:32:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[MATL]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45892&oldid=45891 * Luis Mendo * (-107) /* Language specification and compiler */
09:33:55 <Taneb> olsner, do you have a source or an interesting blog post about that?
09:36:38 <b_jonas> Oh, I should have expected this. Savage Chickens has a Force Awakens week.
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10:49:13 <b_jonas> fungot: do you prefer St. Veteran Day to St. Arbor Day?
10:49:14 <fungot> b_jonas: if you differentiate something, use a point size if you run that through an antenna you make out of the soil, it's entirely fnord motivated. what if it doesn't
10:49:38 <b_jonas> fungot: is there an easier proof for that the boundary of a closed set in RR^n is a null set?
10:49:39 <fungot> b_jonas: that's for chicken? :) that just makes you look like right to left.
10:49:56 <b_jonas> fungot: dunno, Lebesgue's theorym seems a bit heavy for that.
10:49:56 <fungot> b_jonas: but the purpose for brainfuck's existance is an idiot filter :p i'm just awfully silly hash tables. that sort of thing
10:52:47 <fizzie> The truth, revealed: fungot is actually just a set of awfully silly hash tables.
10:52:47 <fungot> fizzie: verry good. however, i've heard
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10:59:34 <mroman> fnerd
10:59:41 <mroman> @mussiges-loud
10:59:41 <lambdabot> hppavilion[1] said 1d 14h 41m 2s ago: I suppose it is a constructed world
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11:53:14 <boily> `wisdom
11:53:17 <HackEgo> intercal/INTERCAL has excellent features for modular program for the enterprise market.
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12:13:05 <b_jonas> [ _1992+266*800*25
12:13:06 <j-bot> b_jonas: 5318008
12:25:11 <Phantom_Hoover> is that... no it can't be dc
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12:28:28 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, it's J
12:28:35 <Taneb> [ i 10
12:28:35 <j-bot> Taneb: |value error: i
12:28:35 <j-bot> Taneb: |       i 10
12:28:41 <Taneb> [ i: 10
12:28:42 <j-bot> Taneb: _10 _9 _8 _7 _6 _5 _4 _3 _2 _1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
12:28:51 <Taneb> It's been a long time since I've J'd
12:28:58 <Taneb> And I was never any good at it
12:32:55 <int-e> `wisdom
12:32:56 <HackEgo> disflagrate/disflagrate v.t.perf.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized.
12:34:11 <b_jonas> `? defenestrate
12:34:12 <HackEgo> defenestrate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:34:26 <b_jonas> `? defenestration
12:34:27 <HackEgo> defenestration? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:38:36 <int-e> `? *
12:38:37 <HackEgo> ​*? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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12:39:04 <int-e> `le/rn */Twinkle, twinkle, little star!
12:39:07 <HackEgo> Learned «*»
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13:52:03 <Taneb> izabera, ping
13:57:56 <izabera> pong
13:58:37 <izabera> Taneb
13:58:54 <Taneb> izabera, what does arin.ga use for syntax highlighting?
13:59:53 <izabera> something regex based i mostly copied from a stackoverflow post
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14:01:30 <Taneb> Ah
14:01:44 <Taneb> It doesn't get /* */ comments, it seems
14:02:01 <izabera> it does if they're in a single line
14:02:25 <Taneb> OK
14:02:32 <izabera> http://phoboslab.org/log/2007/08/generic-syntax-highlighting-with-regular-expressions  <- this
14:02:55 <Taneb> Is the website open source?
14:03:04 <izabera> yes it's on github
14:04:10 <izabera> it's hard to make it work on multiple lines because i had to add some extra markup for something (to make the lines have different colors iirc)
14:04:20 <izabera> i don't really remember it, it's old
14:05:49 <Taneb> Oh wow, that's lighter than I expected
14:06:48 <izabera> it's not ebay, it's a pastebin
14:07:04 <Taneb> True
14:07:09 <Taneb> I think I just find web scary
14:08:17 <Taneb> Maybe because I tend to overcomplicate things
14:10:46 <fizzie> I use the "highlight" Debian package to do syntax highlighting for my "website".
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14:11:59 <izabera> "why" "the" "quotes"
14:12:10 <fizzie> Because calling it a website makes it sound too much like a thing.
14:12:28 <Taneb> fizzie, have you seen my website
14:13:08 <Taneb> Which I bought then didn't do anything with
14:13:19 <Taneb> http://taneb.uk/
14:13:43 <izabera> http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
14:13:49 <izabera> http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/
14:23:05 <fizzie> I did a "blog" (same reason) with zem.fi, but I think I won't have any updates in 2015.
14:26:14 <\oren\> taneb: why is there nothing on your website
14:26:25 <Taneb> \oren\, I couldn't think of anything to put on
14:26:30 <Taneb> And now I've lost the ssh credentials
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14:39:46 <int-e> Taneb: Well it's more informative than my own website (unless you find a "deep link" somewhere ;) ) http://int-e.eu/
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16:01:26 <b_jonas> fungot, what's in your pockets?
16:01:27 <fungot> b_jonas: or silly theorems that bill richter understands absolutely nothing written in that crap language scheme after all
16:24:33 <mroman> bill richter doesn't know scheme?
16:24:38 <mroman> fungot: who's that guy?
16:24:38 <fungot> mroman: gcc ( gcc) 3.3 20030304 ( apple computer, inc.
16:24:45 <mroman> I see.
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16:26:15 <fizzie> fungot: That's kind of old, how about switching to the GCC 5 series? 
16:26:16 <fungot> fizzie: they may be found.'
16:26:31 <fizzie> fungot: Yes, indeed, from the home page.
16:26:31 <fungot> fizzie: but i'm running windows! windows! windows! windows!
16:27:02 <fizzie> Oh, okay then.
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16:31:14 <shachaf> fungot: you can use mingw or cygwin
16:31:15 <fungot> shachaf: you can't have infinite calls that generate output." is an adjective. :p
16:40:36 <mroman> orly?
16:40:44 <mroman> fungot: orly?
16:40:44 <fungot> mroman: is that natural? humans don't live off food and water only. we do not need fun!"
16:41:04 <mroman> fungot: what do we need then?
16:41:04 <fungot> mroman: if that's what you're insinuating.
16:41:23 <mroman> I just watched this video that demonstrates how some snake venom interacts with blood
16:41:43 <mroman> That's gotta be very inconvenient if that stuff gets into your blood stream.
16:41:49 <mroman> It solidifies your blood within seconds.
16:45:08 <mroman> well pretty much all venom is going to be very inconvenient obviously
16:45:43 <mroman> Either it destroys tissues, induces blood coagulation or freakier
16:47:41 <mroman> " A study carried out in 2009 injected scorpions with the venom of various Echis species. "
16:47:56 <mroman> Science is really creepy
16:48:10 <mroman> "Hey let's inject venom into some animals and look what happens"
16:53:05 <mroman> "Let's see what this does to quadriplegic mice"
16:53:20 <mroman> (incidentally the author didn't mention what they did to them to make them quadriplegic)
16:54:13 <shachaf> mromna: i assume that fungot isn't human, so the implication was that humans need fun but fungots do not
16:54:14 <fungot> shachaf: that sounds better. so there is a more abstract api.
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20:11:21 <izabera> i sorted my torrents by share ratio and the top ones are nsfw
20:11:57 <izabera> then there's a huge gap and most of the rest is at 0.1-0.5
20:12:04 <izabera> what does this mean?
20:12:51 <int-e> you managed to find something that's off topic for this channel?
20:12:58 <izabera> whoa
20:13:50 <int-e> (just an opinion, but it does seem rather far removed from our usual conversation)
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20:16:26 <izabera> i'm just wondering if my porn tastes are way common or the rest of my interests is awkward
20:17:51 <izabera> is there something like esoteric porn?
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20:19:31 <FireFly> Probably
20:19:34 <mauris> clearly, the esoteric thing here is that you torrent porn
20:19:50 <izabera> uh no
20:20:00 <izabera> that's not eso
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20:20:47 <izabera> i mean those are the ones with the highest share ratio
20:21:03 <izabera> => not eso at all
20:21:25 <FireFly> Actually I would disagree
20:21:28 <izabera> i also torrent books and they look far more esoteric
20:21:45 <FireFly> I'd say something that in mainstream is likely to give you a lower share ratio, because there's so many seeding it
20:22:00 <mauris> (i'm joking) (the joke is "most people these days just watch HD video streams or whatever")
20:22:02 <izabera> ah good point
20:22:03 <FireFly> something that is obscure and esoteric is more likely to give you a high share ratio if you are one of very few seeders
20:22:35 <FireFly> At least that's uh something I've observed with some uh music
20:22:58 <izabera> yeah "music"
20:24:18 <FireFly> actually video game soundtrack arrangements
20:25:14 <izabera> i'm listening to touhou right now
20:25:24 <izabera> something like that?
20:25:53 <izabera> don
20:25:57 <izabera> err
20:29:37 <FireFly> Actually what I was thinking of was F-Zero X and Disgaea, but touhou arranges are also nice
20:29:47 <FireFly> (the former two are official CDs with arrangements though)
20:33:01 <FireFly> Though for touhou I usually just rely on online radio
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20:47:42 <Deewiant> https://www.reddit.com/r/esolangs/comments/3wzjae/pixesoteric_a_2d_bitmap_based_befunge_style/
20:53:39 <izabera> http://everyfuckingwebsite.com/
20:55:28 <mauris> https://www.reddit.com/r/esolangs/comments/3gakuy/if_the_answer_is_church_integer_42_which_lambda/ ???
20:58:04 <izabera> helluva long post
20:58:42 <izabera> http://noahstokes.com/
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21:00:37 <myname> did anybody posted a link for this 256 git commit thingie earlier this day?
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21:02:09 <int-e> mauris: I'll wait for a summary
21:06:09 <int-e> > (\n f x -> n f (n (n f) x)) (\f x -> f (f (f (f (f (f x)))))) succ 0
21:06:11 <lambdabot>  42
21:10:42 <FireFly> mauris: who let fungot on reddit
21:10:43 <fungot> FireFly: how much do you pay, pitecus?. f) t) fnord redexes!
21:11:50 <int-e> and when did fungot become greedy?
21:11:51 <fungot> int-e: and not, um,? for help. soon the lure of a small community of fnord geeks.
21:11:54 <int-e> ^style
21:11:55 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
21:12:07 <coppro> enron?
21:12:19 <int-e> enron emails?
21:12:21 <int-e> ^style enron
21:12:22 <fungot> Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset)
21:13:00 <FireFly> fungot: hi
21:13:01 <fungot> FireFly: not that we conclude the investigation the securities and exchange commission.
21:13:03 <int-e> fungot: tell us about bribery and racketeering
21:13:03 <fungot> int-e: first and foremost you think......................tony mcconnell and me not to enpower. shanbhogue chapter in.
21:13:18 <FireFly> fungot: don't tell me what to think
21:13:18 <fungot> FireFly: we file the accounts that had a different that what you and beth will continue. 120,? you
21:13:48 <int-e> ^style irc
21:13:48 <fungot> Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams)
21:13:51 <FireFly> fungot: got fun?
21:13:51 <fungot> FireFly: ah ha! thats the one i got it right
21:13:59 <FireFly> apparently
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21:40:16 <izabera> pick your favourite https://i.imgur.com/RTK89fX.png
21:42:58 <izabera> 1. the unreadable green on white text        3. the unreadable green on white text with higher contrast in the rest of the picture        or 2
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21:55:11 <FireFly> What's the context of it?
21:55:17 <int-e> izabera: please tell me there are other options
21:56:26 <izabera> FireFly: context https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2015-12/msg00116.html
21:57:22 <izabera> int-e: nope but i guess you can add a 4th option with a small hack on google docs
21:58:02 <FireFly> I like the typeface for 'BASH' the best in #2 at least
21:58:11 <FireFly> or weight, rather, I guess
21:58:37 <FireFly> and I don't like the use of green in the subtitle, so I guess #2
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22:33:24 <oerjan> ok tunes is about 8 hours off UTC
22:34:47 <oerjan> so i _think_ it's only been gone for less than an hour.
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22:52:05 <oerjan> <b_jonas> fungot: is there an easier proof for that the boundary of a closed set in RR^n is a null set? <-- um that's true in all topologies, and pretty trivial?
22:52:06 <fungot> oerjan: why are you debugging gc, btw
22:52:13 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas <b_jonas> fungot: is there an easier proof for that the boundary of a closed set in RR^n is a null set? <-- um that's true in all topologies, and pretty trivial?
22:52:13 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:52:14 <fungot> oerjan: and then there's one huuto.net page. am i a her or a he? of course
22:53:22 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas erm wait, that's false, including in R^n.  is RR^n something different?
22:53:23 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:58:22 <oerjan> `` ls wisdom/*fenes*
22:58:31 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access wisdom/*fenes*: No such file or directory
23:05:25 <oerjan> `learn Defenestration is the traditional Czech system for voting out government officials.
23:05:27 <HackEgo> Learned 'defenestration': Defenestration is the traditional Czech system for voting out government officials.
23:06:13 <shachaf> oerjan: It seems like it would be false in most spaces.
23:06:31 <oerjan> quite likely.
23:06:47 <oerjan> any hausdorff space with more than one point, at least.
23:06:57 <oerjan> or wait, no
23:07:35 <oerjan> it's true in discrete spaces
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23:07:59 <oerjan> because there all boundaries are null
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