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00:44:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46236&oldid=45335 * Hppavilion1 * (+253) /* Copyright Violation */ new section
00:46:49 * oerjan prepares to swat hppavilion[1] if he doesn't sign pronto
00:47:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46237&oldid=46236 * Hppavilion1 * (+95) /* Copyright Violation */
00:47:57 <shachaf> oerjan: hppavilion[1] is not prone to signing hth
00:48:26 <oerjan> shachaf: i'm afraid of what has accumulated in the wiki talk pages since i gave up catching up...
00:48:38 <ais523> oerjan: opinions on hppavilion[1]'s actual post?
00:48:49 <ais523> he is right, the esme program does appear to contain a copyright notice
00:48:53 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: I have no idea why MediaWiki doesn't just automatically append the siggy if ~~~~ doesn't appear in the message
00:48:59 <ais523> although given how random esme is, that might be part of the syntax rather than a comment
00:49:18 <ais523> ah, "Anything beginning with a | can contain anything and is a comment."
00:50:12 <Taneb> Earlier I tried to get a MediaWiki wiki running off my nixos PC
00:50:55 <Taneb> But did not reach much success
00:52:18 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: because mediawiki does not distinguish talk page edits from any other. besides, not _all_ talk page edits are new messages.
00:53:17 <oerjan> wikipedia used to have a bot for adding signatures, although lately i've seen some missing them...
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00:53:37 <ais523> I haven't seen SineBot around for a while actually
00:54:22 <ais523> hmm, esolang idea: an esolang where all programs must be copyrighted, thus you can't put any examples on the wiki
00:54:44 <shachaf> Programs are automatically copyrighted anyway.
00:54:58 <ais523> shachaf: yes but you can decopyright them (in many countries, anyway)
00:55:08 <oerjan> ais523: you know, technically a copyright notice doesn't contradict CC-0, does it? >:)
00:55:19 <shachaf> I doubt that most examples on the wiki are decopyrighted.
00:55:22 <ais523> oerjan: well CC0 has two halves
00:55:23 <shachaf> They're just licensed or something.
00:55:26 <oerjan> it doesn't say "all rights reserved"
00:55:26 <ais523> it contradicts the first half but not the second
00:55:34 <hppavilion[1]> Is the standard copyright notice copyrighted, I wonder?
00:55:51 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: it's too short to be copyright hth
00:55:53 <shachaf> I'd rather have an esolang where writing any program in it involves violating a patent.
00:56:02 <ais523> here's the actual license: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode
00:56:37 <shachaf> I guess it's easy enough to get US software patents to make that doable.
00:56:41 <ais523> hmm, it doesn't seem to be actually contradictory with a copyright notice
00:57:16 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: it cannot be trademarked if it's not used for commerce, can it
00:57:35 <hppavilion[1]> For the record, I'm just in this for my crusade against copywritten programs
00:58:27 <hppavilion[1]> I don't want future children growing up in a society where everything is proprietary- even stupid programs in stupid languages
00:59:40 <shachaf> Copywritten programs? Are those programs used in advertisements?
01:00:47 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: I don't really know how to spell ~"Copywritten"~
01:04:19 <ais523> someone needs to copywrite that "copywritten" :-P
01:06:07 <hppavilion[1]> ais523: I'm the antichopyrist and I approve of this message
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01:28:06 <\oren\> by analogy with light -> lit, copyright -> copyrit.
01:29:42 <shachaf> fight -> fought, copyright -> copyrought
01:31:49 <\oren\> yah, give it a 'ough' to prove how evil it is
01:31:54 <oerjan> flight -> flown, copyright -> copyrown hth
01:32:47 <Phantom_Hoover> sadly the second ring was destroyed as part of the settlement of Sauron vs. The Free Peoples
01:33:01 <\oren\> i copyright, i copywrought, i have copywrown
01:33:37 * oerjan hits \oren\ with the saucepan of writeous grammar ===\__/
01:34:31 <oerjan> or wait, that's correct SORRY
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01:49:00 <hppavilion[1]> I'm making a programming language called GM (working name, ftr)
01:49:39 <hppavilion[1]> But I'm wondering if I should add some Gouda-like features to GM.
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01:50:04 <hppavilion[1]> Gouda is based off Mascarpone, I should mention. At least, the idea of reifying/deifying interpreters (pushing them/popping them, using them as data)
01:53:35 <hppavilion[1]> I could, if it would work, entirely merge them. And it makes /some/ sense: GM is heavily mathematical, and what's more mathy in programming than self-modifying code?
01:55:06 <oerjan> <hppavilion[1]> These are both semi-serious languages <-- i dunno, the latter sound cheesy to me
01:55:52 <oerjan> i had my suspicions already.
01:58:19 <Phantom_Hoover> augur, if you're around, can you explain why when americans hear canadians say 'about' and south africans say 'fuck' they render this as 'aboot' and 'fook' respectively, despite the fact that they're clearly 'aboat' and 'fock' and don't sound anything like 'oo'?
01:58:40 <Phantom_Hoover> like it's so egregious that i have to wonder if it's a peculiarity to how americans say or hear 'oo'
01:59:07 <oerjan> yoo wooldn't onderstand
02:00:15 <\oren\> i guess they don't pay attention to the uh before the oo part?
02:05:12 <\oren\> like it's a /ʌu/ vowel sequence, but they percieve it as just being /u:/
02:06:13 <\oren\> aboat would be /o/ wouldn't it?
02:07:15 <\oren\> no thay say somehting like /ʌbæut/ to my ear
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02:08:05 <Phantom_Hoover> there's an article by an actual linguist about it here http://dialectblog.com/2011/03/20/canadian-raising-nobody-says-aboot/
02:08:23 <Phantom_Hoover> but it doesn't cover the similarly wrong 'fook' (as in the meme from district 9)
02:10:42 <Phantom_Hoover> \oren\, fwiw wiktionary's standard pronunciations of 'boat' don't have /o/ as the vowel
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02:20:52 <augur> Phantom_Hoover: i dont really know, actually
02:21:43 <augur> it might have to do with some kind of perceptual repulsion
02:22:16 <Phantom_Hoover> like i don't know of any accent which would pronounce 'fuck' as 'fook'
02:22:33 <augur> like, if you expect X but the sound produced is Y, you perceive it as whatever is furthest in the Y-X direction
02:23:16 <augur> about in AmEn uses the diphthon [æʊ] at least in my dialect
02:23:49 <Phantom_Hoover> i had to stare at my lips in a mirror for a while to convince myself that i was actually saying a diphthong
02:24:00 <augur> if CanEn is [ʌʊ] or [əʊ] then the direction from [æʊ] to either of those is up and to the right
02:24:15 <augur> and the most extreme vowel in that direction is english [u:]
02:24:28 <deltab> it's like caricature: focusing on the differences and exaggerating them
02:25:09 <augur> keep in mind tho also that [ʌʊ] and [əʊ] dont exist in AmEn, so AmEn ears have to put those into some box or other, and they cant put them in the [æʊ] box
02:25:47 <augur> so it has to be some other box up and to the right of [æʊ]
02:26:29 <augur> but also Phantom_Hoover, we cant discount the possible effect also of cultural depictions of canadians as saying [u:] as well. we'd need to find someone whos kind of oblivious and see what their perception is
02:27:07 <Phantom_Hoover> well yeah, the blogpost i linked theorises that it's an extinct pronunciation that's lived on in pop culture
02:27:08 <deltab> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brummie
02:28:07 <Phantom_Hoover> but that doesn't work for 'fook' because afaik it started with district 9 in 2009
02:28:09 <augur> whats the actual sequence anyway, Phantom_Hoover? i think i misread part of the convo :)
02:28:34 <Phantom_Hoover> uh, the article is http://dialectblog.com/2011/03/20/canadian-raising-nobody-says-aboot/
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02:29:04 <Phantom_Hoover> and the 'fook' thing is because there's this meme that the south african characters in district 9 say 'fook' a lot, most notoriously 'fookin prawns'
02:29:14 <augur> Phantom_Hoover: yeah i think fook is another interesting question. i bet S.A. uses a pure vowel, not [oʊ] but probably [o]
02:29:33 <Phantom_Hoover> someone's made a convenient compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49BB1vE2tY
02:29:48 <augur> [foʊk] is an AmEn word: folk so it people are hearing fook, its because it doesnt sound like folk
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02:32:03 <augur> dialect perception is really tricky tho, do i dunno
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02:39:27 <Phantom_Hoover> augur, oh i just remembered i got started on this whole diversion when i saw someone on reddit try to write an irish accent and end up with 'fook'
02:44:40 <augur> everyone knows its scottish people who say fook!
02:45:09 <augur> oh btw another possible issue is that no one knows IPA
02:45:31 * oerjan imagines boily ircing from deep inside a snow cave that he's digged himself
02:45:32 <Sgeo_> Is IPA that thing that all pronounciations are given in?
02:45:49 <pikhq> Sgeo_: If you're dealing with linguists, at least.
02:45:50 <augur> Phantom_Hoover: so if Joe Normal wants to write /fʊk/ they would analogize to book and write fook
02:45:57 <boily> hellørjan. it's not a snow cave, it's a snow dwelling. it has rooms!
02:46:12 <pikhq> It's the script that has all the phonemes.
02:46:15 <augur> but fook can also be seen as /fuk/ and so there you go
02:46:21 <augur> pikhq: phones, not phonemes
02:46:45 <oerjan> boily: as long as it doesn't have dwelling-ins
02:46:54 <pikhq> Ah, because "phonemes" only makes sense in the context of a particular language?
02:46:54 <lambdabot> ENVA 200150Z 24013KT 9999 FEW013 SCT026 BKN051 M01/M03 Q1009 RMK WIND 670FT 27017KT
02:47:17 <augur> pikhq: no, just because "phoneme" means roughly "equivalence class of phones"
02:47:25 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: not even glaswegians?
02:47:26 <augur> Phantom_Hoover: fsvo fook :)
02:47:33 <lambdabot> CYUL 200200Z 26017G23KT 15SM -SN DRSN BKN035 OVC150 M10/M14 A2999 RMK SC5AC3 SLP160
02:47:37 <Sgeo_> Talk to my old grey fook!
02:47:51 <boily> DRSN like there's no tomorrow!
02:47:52 <pikhq> And thus "all the phonemes" would be about as useful as "all the letters" rather than "all the glyphs".
02:50:32 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: i see no glaswegians tdnh
02:50:59 <augur> Phantom_Hoover: of course scots say fook
02:51:10 <augur> i've watched nae mince in moray, dont pretend!
02:51:13 <augur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9BtScBQaI
02:52:48 <augur> you're practical ENGLISH!
02:53:26 <augur> nah he doesnt say fuck, thats true
02:53:57 <augur> he does say oot (and wrote it too) and coo for cow and so on, like the fake canadian dialect
02:55:39 <Phantom_Hoover> but 'fook' doesn't hit me as 'fuck' in any accent i recognise
02:55:39 <augur> i do think tho that /ʊ/ is maybe anglicized irish maybe? i can hear Dara Ó Briain saying it, i think
02:56:38 <augur> or maybe he says ɔ or something. on british television he doesnt use feck as much as he probably does with an irish audience
02:57:57 <Phantom_Hoover> like i'm fairly sure father ted is doused in 'feck' because if they'd been saying 'fuck' that much they'd have been asked to rein it in
02:58:43 <Phantom_Hoover> augur, it might well be that i have a very pronounced idea of how 'fuck' sounds
02:59:40 <oerjan> this one has it beeped out but the text rhymes it with Tuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLC4h0_C1Q
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03:32:11 <tswett> So, you know what a great system for expressing musical pitch is?
03:32:25 <tswett> One "point" is one 848th of an octave.
03:32:47 <tswett> See, we can assign nominal sizes to various intervals—
03:33:38 <tswett> a minor third is nominally 223 points, a major third is 273, a perfect fourth is 352, a perfect fifth is 496, a minor sixth is 575, a major sixth is 625—
03:34:23 <tswett> such that these nominal sizes add and subtract perfectly, and the nominal size of an interval is almost always the correctly rounded version of its exact size.
03:35:50 <tswett> A minor second has a nominal size of 79 points. There are two different kinds of major seconds, with different nominal sizes: the smaller one is 129 points, the larger one is 144 points.
03:36:18 <tswett> The difference between these two numbers is 15 points, the nominal size of a syntonic comma.
03:41:08 <tswett> The enharmonic diesis, whatever the heck that is (it's a ratio of 128 to 125), is nominally 29 points.
03:41:30 <tswett> Now, there's an interval called the schisma, which is exactly the difference between an enharmonic diesis and two syntonic commas.
03:41:36 <tswett> This interval is nominally 1 point.
03:41:49 <tswett> That is, of course, the correct rounded value.
03:43:08 <tswett> So what this comes to is that 848-EDO suggests a pretty decent way of expressing just interval sizes.
03:43:59 <tswett> It's gonna be hard to make two "reasonable" just intervals that have the same nominal size, so a nominal size will usually determine just one just interval.
03:45:04 <tswett> And nominal sizes are a very good match for the actual size of an interval.
03:45:19 <tswett> Like, good luck finding a perceptible difference.
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03:59:48 <tswett> So, 848-EDO tempers out two commas.
04:01:25 <tswett> First is the "superpythagorean comma" which is 53 perfect fifths minus 31 octaves. This comma is 3.615 cents.
04:02:42 <tswett> And second is some other weird comma, which 10 perfect fifths, plus 16 major thirds, minus 11 octaves.
04:02:51 <tswett> This one is 0.569 cents.
04:04:01 <tswett> The frequency ratio for the former is 19383245667680019896796723/19342813113834066795298816; the frequency ratio for the latter is 9010162353515625/9007199254740992.
04:05:06 <tswett> Of course, 848-EDO also tempers out any integer linear combination of these commas.
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05:04:31 <hppavilion[1]> coppro: These are serious languages with Eso roots, so I can't just do it without thought
05:04:54 <coppro> you might be thinking of a ukulele
05:05:47 <hppavilion[1]> coppro: One is inspired by Mascarpone and is based off of meta-circular interpretation, the other is rooted in mathematics, with Graphs and Matrices being primitive data types
05:07:40 * oerjan suddenly regrets not saying he was thinking of a ululele
05:08:45 <oerjan> incidentally, "ukuleke" and "ululele" both give about 1.5k hits
05:09:28 <oerjan> the significant digits are not very many
05:11:27 <oerjan> i,i meta-circulr matrices
05:11:52 <oerjan> muphry's law is strong today, even though i only vaguely fit the prerequisites
05:12:03 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Yes, you could have a matrix of meta-circular interpreters
05:12:54 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: murphy: not found
05:12:54 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: muphry: not found
05:13:00 <oerjan> i see coppro is also affected
05:13:36 <coppro> yeah, I cannot spell muphry correctly
05:15:02 <oerjan> `le/rn muphrys law/Mumphrie's Law says things will be misspelled at the worst possible moment.
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05:16:58 <HackEgo> guideX: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
05:17:11 <hppavilion[1]> Hackbot's a little slow today. Took 7 seconds to respond ._.
05:17:54 <hppavilion[1]> The channel is mostly asleep at this moment IIANC, but the wiki is always full of stuff
05:22:57 <\oren\> i'm awake, because I almost live and work by california time
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05:29:56 <oerjan> today i seem to have got a backlash to beijing time
05:51:19 <pikhq> Some of my coworkers in Zurich seem to do the same.
05:51:33 <pikhq> At least, I *hope* that's why they're answering things at 1 AM their time.
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08:05:35 <izabera> a man, a plan, a god's 'nam tables, nitrate, tar, tinsel, batman's dog: anal panama
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08:26:05 <HackEgo> [U+0105 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH OGONEK]
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08:29:28 <HackEgo> 740) <shachaf> U+2205 [∅] NO LETTER O ALLOWED
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09:17:53 <mroman> how the fuck can fflush cause a sigsegv?
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09:54:33 <mroman> shouldn't it then use EBADF or something like that?
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10:05:55 <oerjan> mroman: if it gets something that's non-NULL but not pointing to an actual FILE, it might try to follow something it thinks should be a valid pointer but isn't...
10:06:45 <oerjan> *an actual valid FILE structure
10:07:18 <oerjan> i.e. it won't check for totally corrupted memory or bad casts
10:18:26 <mroman> yeah but that FD is int
10:18:49 <oerjan> mroman: FILE is not necessarily FD afaik
10:22:06 <mroman> unistd apparentely has no flush
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10:26:45 <oerjan> mroman: i am not sure that file descriptors without a stream _have_ any buffering to flush
10:27:48 <oerjan> yeah, fsync looks like the closest
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11:18:31 <mroman> oerjan: I confused unistd stuff with stdio stuff
11:18:42 <mroman> stdio stuff uses FILE*
11:18:49 <mroman> whereas unistd uses int
11:21:11 <fizzie> I would have hoped a compiler to say an empathic 'no' to fflush(fd).
11:27:34 <HackEgo> /hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/cc: not found
11:27:40 <HackEgo> ./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53: 310 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$
11:28:03 <oerjan> `! c int n = 1; fflush(n);
11:28:12 <HackEgo> ./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53: 313 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$
11:28:59 <oerjan> `! c include <stdio.h>\nint main() { int n = 1; fflush(n); }
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11:29:37 <oerjan> `! c #include <stdio.h>\nint main() { int n = 1; fflush(n); }
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11:30:54 <fizzie> `cc #include <stdio.h> \n int main() { int n = 1; fflush(n); }
11:31:25 <oerjan> maybe it's just random
11:31:43 <fizzie> It's an enabled-by-default warning, but not an error.
11:31:48 <oerjan> anyway, it's definitely not type safe
11:31:57 <fizzie> And our `cc and `! c aren't that good about error reporting.
11:32:05 <fizzie> warning: passing argument 1 of ‘fflush’ makes pointer from integer without a cast [enabled by default]
11:32:53 <fizzie> Without a prototype, it's a warning for -std=c99 or newer, because C99 removed implicit function declarations.
11:33:42 <fizzie> (But GCC versions < 5 default to "gnu89".)
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11:41:06 <mroman> hm I must have missed the warnings
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11:41:34 <mroman> I guess that's why I always use -Wall -Werror (at least with gcc)
11:48:24 <fizzie> "Subject: LET US ACTUALIZE THIS DREAM TOGETHER"
11:49:42 <fizzie> (The dream in question involves $8.6M USD "kept in a big suitcase secretly hidden", as well as 86 kg of gold.)
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11:57:17 <int-e> useful. "A million dollars will fit inside a microwave oven." http://izismile.com/2011/05/31/where_can_you_hide_one_million_dollars_cash_13_pics.html
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11:59:44 <int-e> (I was wondering how big that big suitcase would have to be)
12:00:25 <ais523> there's a gameshow on UK TV called The Million Pound Drop
12:00:34 <ais523> one of its main gimmicks is that it's played with a physical million pounds in cash
12:00:58 <ais523> if you happen to see even just the start of the show, it gives you a good idea of what that looks like volume-wise
12:01:18 <ais523> "big suitcase" thus feels about right, a small one wouldn't be big enough but a big one would be
12:01:23 * APic will leech a Sample from YouTube, thanks ais523.
12:02:08 <ais523> I assume that when the contestants win (some subset) of it the producers just take the cash back and give a cheque for the value in exchange
12:02:17 <ais523> so that they don't have to keep getting more cash as the episode goes on
12:02:25 <ais523> although perhaps they have another few million spare just in case :-)
12:05:10 <Taneb> ais523, there's no Bank of England £100 notes, and £50s are quite large, so £1000000 is gonna be a lot larger volume than $1000000
12:05:27 <Taneb> Unless you're in Scotland maybe
12:05:31 <ais523> I assume the show uses £50s but I wasn't paying attention
12:06:03 <ais523> also Bank of Scotland notes are legal in England, aren't they? just most stores don't accept them because they don't know how to check if they're genuine
12:08:11 <Taneb> They're as much currency as the shopkeeper says it is
12:08:29 <Taneb> And they're not legal tender (even in Scotland)
12:09:26 <ais523> that's because nothing is legal tender in Scotland
12:11:07 <mroman> http://codepad.org/0Lq8BCpP \o/
12:12:40 <Taneb> mroman, what are you doing?
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12:14:08 <mroman> Taneb: It's kind of a high-level virtual machine.
12:14:22 <mroman> let's say "shell emulator" I don't know how to call it exactly.
12:15:18 <Taneb> Hmm, sounds like it could be interesting
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12:44:49 <mroman> currently you can't cat the same file twice o_O
12:46:28 <mroman> ah didn't properly open files
12:50:03 <mroman> http://codepad.org/gRbWOoAu works now :)
12:52:39 <mroman> Taneb: I'll give you an account once it's up and running in the wild ;)
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14:17:39 <b_jonas_> fungot, why did you reconnect me?
14:17:40 <fungot> b_jonas_: atomic unit. you can't very well call them. like that one. do you favour any particular album of his? what's he need a dns implementation for? i do like females with character, ya know
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14:19:12 <oerjan> is fungot implying he atomically changed your gender
14:19:12 <fungot> oerjan: wish i had food here. will be over
14:19:43 <oerjan> fungot: um i'm not sure i have anything bots can eat
14:19:43 <fungot> oerjan: you obviously don't. :p fnord/ sym/ fnord) can i tell csi to load that value into the variable " window-system" will be used
14:20:02 <oerjan> fungot: sorry i don't know csi
14:20:03 <fungot> oerjan: no fun killing them when you have no lips, mister bob. after that, it's very difficult to be defined before you use the low-level libraries. thus, as knowledge approaches zero, money approaches infinity, the interpreter
14:20:30 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
14:21:12 <int-e> "no fun killing them when you have no lips, mister bob." is quotable
14:23:00 <oerjan> hm i think iwc reruns are about where it was when i started reading it
14:23:00 <fizzie> Sounds like it came from a movie.
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14:32:51 <b_jonas> hmm, that's a good idea. in an esolang, I should call the flip function inSovietRussia or something like that
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14:59:52 <mroman> as knowledge approaches zero, money approaches infinitiy
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15:07:02 <mroman> @define inSovietRussia = flip ($)
15:07:20 <mroman> > [0..9] `inSovietRussia` reverse
15:07:54 <mroman> @define inGermany = ($!)
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16:39:34 <mroman> http://codepad.org/uSihdC3c :)
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20:40:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46238&oldid=46237 * GermanyBoy * (+154) /* Copyright Violation */
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22:16:33 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[PanASCIIc Programming Language]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46239 * Hppavilion1 * (+1789) Created Page
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22:30:29 <mauris> strictly apply a function
22:31:08 <mauris> > const 0 undefined -- evaluating undefined would give an error, but we don't need to
22:31:20 <mauris> > const 0 $! undefined -- this way we force haskell to evaluate it
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22:58:10 <fizzie> It took me this long in life to realize there's a pun in the name "K-9".
22:58:51 <myname> we havea similar pun on university
23:00:43 <fizzie> I don't know, how long has it been? 32 years or so. Not that I spent all that time thinking about it.
23:00:44 <shachaf> fizzie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulproteus/List_of_puns_that_took_Asheesh_more_than_a_year_to_get hth
23:00:58 <shachaf> you should make a page like that
23:01:09 <fizzie> I haven't been keeping track.
23:02:39 <fizzie> Ray-Ban was a new one for me.
23:04:12 <myname> shachaf: i don't get some of these
23:04:53 <myname> what abput that don't let's start thing?
23:05:03 <myname> i don't even understand
23:06:20 <shachaf> https://play.google.com/music/preview/Ttveq7pmiusetyflqcu4sk6jxne?lyrics=1
23:08:10 <fizzie> Also I logged onto my flickr account for the first time in over a year, and someone had sent three identical messages about wanting to use a picture of an elephant on a website that's a database of pictures of elephants.
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23:12:17 <shachaf> Is https://www.flickr.com/photos/21230734@N06/ you?
23:15:22 <fizzie> https://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzief/14435641202/ is the elephant in question.
23:15:27 <fizzie> (I'm not the elephant either.)
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