< 1455667204 5031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also suspect it wouldn't be capable of enchanting anything < 1455667236 523861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were an artifact enchantment - equipment, I guess it'd be possible to use the enchant ability to equip it to something as it was cast? not sure though < 1455667298 781080 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja NICK :Elronnd < 1455667386 802843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If it wasn't an Aura? Why would that be possible? < 1455667426 721528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules for something that's both aura and equipment (which is possible!) were changed recently < 1455667437 901632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make equipping and enchanting basically synonyms < 1455667445 32679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to get around some rules issues < 1455667445 929850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only an aura can target. < 1455667458 578976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you said both aura and equipment. < 1455667595 558834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1455667649 324053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it possible? < 1455667747 310780 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455667832 57308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquimetal coating + bludgeon brawl + something that's naturally an Aura < 1455667889 337823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but that only works when it's a permanent. < 1455667893 188680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant as a spell. < 1455667915 547383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or e.g. as a card you return from the graveyard. < 1455667946 621462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, I don't think you can do that < 1455667960 140098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet, at least < 1455668040 379497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any cards with effects like that? < 1455668120 597369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allowing cards to be cast as another card type? not as far as I know < 1455668136 547385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, subtype, at least < 1455668140 886702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if enchanted evening works on spells < 1455668143 443175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works on most things < 1455668172 733536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should have an mtg card bot here. < 1455668224 876719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should < 1455668227 516803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Freenode have one? < 1455668238 372481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how you can tell, possibly by guessing the name < 1455668264 646547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFNet has one. < 1455668344 950626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've asked in #mtg < 1455668425 687108 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric : /ne < 1455668464 17939 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455668488 764995 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helronnd < 1455668526 819730 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: How are you today? < 1455668547 121676 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hppavilion[1] < 1455668548 522692 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1455668555 243692 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Excellent < 1455668559 240974 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :My feet are kinda messed up from dancing last week < 1455668562 988050 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1455668568 616704 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying not to put too much weight on them < 1455668593 69834 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a good, strange basis for a declarative language? < 1455668618 564881 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I don't know what a "declarative language" is < 1455668630 256029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1455668630 398381 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1455668638 986910 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Like Haskell or Prolog < 1455668646 873804 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to Python or C, which are imperative < 1455668698 504759 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell isn't high enough on my list of things to look at that I've looked at it yet < 1455668704 649748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Ah < 1455668726 884598 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: The classic explanation is that in declarative programming, you specify /what/ to do instead of /how/ to do it < 1455668733 335734 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Thue is declarative < 1455668738 27721 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Brainfuck is imperative < 1455668747 985548 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard, it's really cool thougyhthough < 1455668776 925087 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: It is < 1455668860 620427 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Declarative languages are usually based on something mathematical- Haskell is λ-calculus, Prolog is formal logic, Thue is semi-thue systems. < 1455668880 906901 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1455668884 148011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new colorless mana symbol is scow. < 1455668901 762970 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`scow < 1455668903 75623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: scow: not found < 1455668938 704983 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: So what I was asking is what would be an interesting thing to do for a declarative language < 1455668980 180993 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use math-style notation < 1455669007 177969 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Perhaps < 1455669072 768100 :\oren\!~oren@65.94.99.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1455669092 730153 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455669120 455839 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I did think of a language based on the idea of a really complicated calculator < 1455669154 997248 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455669175 187859 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: stdout<<="Hello, world!" < 1455669468 233728 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realistically, in math, that would just be "Hello, world!" < 1455669477 295619 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in a calculator, though < 1455669538 899037 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: I'm stuck on how to allow things like 99 bottles of beer on the wall without variables < 1455669558 396074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The EFNet bot gives both cards and rules. < 1455669577 575645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can look up rules by keyword and so on. < 1455669585 949317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the code is not available. < 1455669606 583302 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: recursion < 1455669616 974943 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455669618 335301 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: No functions are in the language < 1455669641 282891 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: That's the strange part; a program in the language is just a big expression < 1455669657 665330 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's math for ya < 1455669667 631157 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1455669705 496176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome haily_ < 1455669706 921073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haily_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1455669764 430808 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1455669767 275452 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome yaily_ < 1455669770 682072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07yaily_: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1455669777 320777 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is Haily? < 1455669785 290776 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I m a nerd < 1455669799 241241 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I go to retire < 1455669803 921229 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause Im old < 1455669816 155258 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455669834 430718 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine Backbone looks like < 1455669849 971072 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bombs in Irakwar < 1455669865 319441 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken but never fall? < 1455670071 318237 :elias1!~canaima@186-93-166-128.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455670098 902398 :haily_!~ceon@91.141.1.95.wireless.dyn.drei.com QUIT :Quit: :-) < 1455670108 658136 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome elias1 < 1455670110 205882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elias1: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1455670178 779194 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455670184 971137 :elias1!~canaima@186-93-166-128.genericrev.cantv.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455670506 577669 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric < 1455670991 607245 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455671066 280851 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455671168 610757 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-012-159-167.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455671196 643314 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455671282 555040 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-159-167.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455671386 281240 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-091-029.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455671462 673327 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1455671540 630861 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's easy < 1455671585 313621 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: (map display-bottles (iota 99)) < 1455671633 621088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iota 99) is ((99 s) k) < 1455671647 846471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to mentally figure out what giving 99 s as an argument even does < 1455671699 578074 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does that return a list with 1 2 3 ... < 1455671719 401818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm misinterpreting Iota as the esolang (and its defining operation) < 1455671732 540054 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1455671732 682462 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(map display-bottles (list-reverse (iota 99))) < 1455671736 664370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus 99 as the church numeral (which would be the only sensible way to define it in esolang) < 1455671738 343054 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally got it wrong < 1455671740 493379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in iota < 1455671752 101522 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iota 99) is unsurprisingly ι99 in APL < 1455671752 925583 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-1/srfi-1.html#iota < 1455671775 281288 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's probably a custom iota character in APL, and not the greek one I used < 1455671806 901156 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo or (iota 0 99 -1) < 1455671833 387351 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean (iota 99 99 -1) ? < 1455671838 170497 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1455671863 721472 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used all three arguments before < 1455671885 754031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underlambda has a "u" command < 1455671910 15418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you give it an integer as an argument, it produces a list from 1, 2, etc., up to that integer (inclusive) < 1455671933 803289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also works on non-integers, in which case its behaviour is defined but mostly bizarre < 1455672015 176447 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1455672069 781066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, (~)u^ will append the length of a list, plus one, to that list < 1455672076 212514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing the list to end with its new length < 1455672826 796693 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@67-2-63-198.slkc.qwest.net NICK :TodPunk < 1455673010 353671 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Ruler-and-SuperCompass construction any more powerful than normal ruler-and-compass? < 1455673032 95238 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a supercompass? < 1455673051 822479 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It draws ellipses instead of circles < 1455673059 144041 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, circles are a subset of ellipses, but...) < 1455673068 983615 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no < 1455673102 482387 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Proof? < 1455673148 855145 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :still algebraic, you don't ever get to pi < 1455673171 656201 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1455673201 560061 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But perhaps you're able to move a circle with it or something, thus letting you trisect an angle? < 1455673236 912772 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :your specs are a bit vague < 1455673281 884529 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: You can draw an ellipse given any two points representing its focci. The focci may, of course, be the same < 1455673327 690990 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's not a a tool one could easily construct to /look/ like a compass, of course. < 1455673344 489079 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about moving things around? < 1455673402 799344 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That part I'm not sure about, but I just feel that it may be possible to use the ellipse to move a circle; I haven't formally tried it yet because I don't have any way to try it < 1455673415 737682 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll make a Tkinter-based application to try it out < 1455673420 884707 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe Qt5) < 1455673427 619415 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :try geogebra < 1455673482 604340 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbWvGzXUAAAy8MO.png GSUB at work! < 1455673850 225165 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Actually, that seems like a pretty good idea... < 1455673857 733514 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A S-construction tool < 1455673863 173839 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some set S < 1455673897 37466 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Folding-and-compass or Ruler-and-protractor < 1455673927 280445 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(protractor is restricted so you can only make angles. You use it to create angles of a given size) < 1455673945 704408 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or something less stupid) < 1455673967 20714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can trisect an angle with a ruler and a compass < 1455673971 21471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason is that the ruler has lines marked on it < 1455673977 693671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even two marked lines is enough for the trisection to work < 1455674001 253534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(another method you can do with just the ruler and compass is to use them at the same time, using the compass to mark a length along the ruler; the proof that you can't regards doing this as cheating) < 1455674026 896449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, s/ruler/straightedge/g in my most recent comment < 1455674042 418964 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Since some people use HackEgo in /msg, where the limit might be shorter. <-- istr HackEgo has an internal 350 limit before all that stuff is added on hth < 1455674056 720534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdh < 1455674059 74228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpectedly < 1455674370 715196 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e for ($i=0;$i<500;$i++) { print ($i%10), ; } < 1455674372 197939 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 < 1455674405 408139 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, checks out < 1455674494 704169 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amazing power of perl < 1455674579 682946 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf %.s0123456789 {1..50} < 1455674580 528010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 < 1455674587 607027 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i win < 1455674633 930645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I recently had to debug a program in an emergency, it was doing a series of parse tree transformations and I wanted to spot the point where they became incorrect < 1455674651 691536 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1455674652 32721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was dumping each stage but in a pretty sexp-like format (not actual sexps, but close) < 1455674665 133262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trying to wade through all the parens was basically impossible < 1455674673 340333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wrote a Perl-oneliner to colourize matching parens to make it easier < 1455674682 45451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first I checked the repos but there didn't seem to be anything there) < 1455674688 615994 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1455674753 306239 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where is this program? < 1455674840 451041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my bash history < 1455674840 799029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can drag it out if you like < 1455674848 801681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/[()]/$& eq "(" ? "\e[3".($x%6+1).($x++%12>5?";1":"")."m(\e[0m" : "\e[3".(--$x%6+1).($x%12>5?";1":"")."m)\e[0m"/ge' < 1455674872 29704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very neat or readable because it was written in like 5 minutes in a hurry, I stopped writing it as soon as I had something that worked < 1455674874 303031 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo {,,}{,,}{,,}{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} < 1455674875 342134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 < 1455674875 596332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my purposes < 1455674901 788067 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1455674920 84323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo {,,}{,,,}{,,,}{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} | tr -d \ < 1455674922 636094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 < 1455674932 121932 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixing escape sequences and perl makes for very esoteric programs < 1455674953 810342 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf %s {,,}{,,,}{,,,}{0..9} < 1455674955 336832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 < 1455674964 872520 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: thanks < 1455675130 318912 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++[>++++++>++++++<<-]>++[>.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.---------<-] < 1455675130 461327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234... < 1455675135 370699 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on lambdabot < 1455675144 241431 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++>++++++<<-]>++[>.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.---------<-] < 1455675144 588382 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456 < 1455675182 959429 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it print too many? < 1455675202 443173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when did lambdabot do brainfuck? < 1455675226 352066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >,[>,]<[[<]>[.>]<]!0123456789 < 1455675226 494351 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456 ... < 1455675248 449451 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very cheating and unfair < 1455675266 500764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't intending to cheat, more it was out of curiosity if I could find something that didn't hardcode the 0123456789 bit < 1455675277 30736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid the non-general .+.+.+.+ < 1455675283 698710 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It also does unlambda. < 1455675287 191431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it'd be shorter if it didn't use stdin; probably not < 1455675293 414356 :TodPunk!~Tod@67-2-63-198.slkc.qwest.net NICK :Tod-Home < 1455675307 912327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shorter than the +.+.+.+. version, I mean) < 1455675322 29678 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see, HackEgo was truncating it < 1455675347 664196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>+++++>+<<-]>--[>[<.+>>+<-]>[<<->+>-]<<] < 1455675348 1232 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456 < 1455675374 350741 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also D&D. < 1455675377 628447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wow < 1455675380 779482 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1455675381 193584 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@roll 2d0 < 1455675381 384396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected 'd': expecting digit, operator or end of input < 1455675390 360577 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@roll d20 < 1455675390 502934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: 20 < 1455675395 577832 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :til there's a bf interpreter < 1455675398 607866 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll need a minute or two to understand how that works < 1455675406 524191 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :@roll 2d20 < 1455675406 666752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: 13+10 => 23 < 1455675411 754149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a while to understand how it works but I understand itn ow < 1455675428 961863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of it like a Minsky machine, it makes things easier < 1455675433 553612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that all the loops are balanced) < 1455675477 717661 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what took you a while to understand? < 1455675489 784614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: why it was repeating in sets of 10 < 1455675499 578624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's an infinite loop, so cheating < 1455675507 920718 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1455675511 911779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, I thought infinite was better < 1455675516 869310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's an infinite loop too < 1455675561 490236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but izabera's isn't, and spends 11 characters on that < 1455675577 935142 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for noticing <.< < 1455675583 82946 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++<-]>++[.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.---------] < 1455675583 503085 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;23456789:;2345678 < 1455675599 202313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't treating this as a golf competition, more a code elegance competition < 1455675604 84629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, 13. < 1455675607 938835 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++<-]>[.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.---------] < 1455675608 312337 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456 < 1455675609 232004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm translating int-e's BF program into PMMN to see what my PMMN optimizer makes of it < 1455675838 292657 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it optimize? < 1455675841 604608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it segfaults < 1455675852 258763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[[>+++++>+>+<<<-]>-->[<.+>-]>] < 1455675852 596955 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456 < 1455675854 693128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: a lot of things, it tries to eliminate loops for example < 1455675857 662742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455675870 92536 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: *that* will take a while o.o < 1455675898 685872 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455675911 955694 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : since when did lambdabot do brainfuck? <-- since always? < 1455676021 489492 :Tod-Home!~Tod@67-2-63-198.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1455676073 774884 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :More precisely, since september 2006 < 1455676088 569503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ghMc < 1455676114 217069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inc_by(0, 10); while (dec(0)) { inc_by(1, 5); inc(2); } dec(1); dec(1); while (dec(1)) { inc(1); while (dec(2)) { /* PMMN non-destructive output code, not in original */ while (dec(1)) { inc(9); inc(8); } while (dec(9)) { inc(1); } inc(8); output(8); inc(1); inc(3); } while (dec(3)) { dec(1); inc(2); } } < 1455676119 341685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the original program < 1455676140 86861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was going to say that you of all people should know the answer to that. < 1455676144 492092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was thinking of unlambda. < 1455676148 761752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it didn't optimize out a useless jump < 1455676164 390893 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: oh, I thought infinite was better <-- i only did finite because i vaguely recalled HackEgo might not handle infinite output without newlines. < 1455676188 252081 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually lambdabot seems to have trouble with that < 1455676195 532188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++[[>+++++>+>+<<<-]>-->[<.+>-]>] < 1455676224 990721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it doesn't figure out yet that (1) never changes < 1455676240 403265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it has got the program down to the minimum number of loops without unrolling < 1455676301 813499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, the PMMN optimizer so far is available via "darcs clone http://nethack4.org/media/ssapmmn" < 1455676317 73210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing yet understands its output format though, you just have to read it by hand < 1455676336 163672 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++[[>+++++>+>+<<<-]>-->[<.+>-]>.] < 1455676348 871693 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no, newlines don't help. < 1455676356 847339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[[>+++++>+>+<<<-]>-->[<.+>-]>.] < 1455676357 183518 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 \ 0123456789 < 1455676361 425095 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : But I was thinking of unlambda. <-- yep. although they didn't actually _tell_ me they'd used my code, so i'm not sure exactly when i discovered it. < 1455676407 680365 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2006-03-15 Add the unlambda plugin < 1455676427 420706 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit weird since i'm pretty sure there were other unlambda interpreters in haskell when i wrote mine < 1455676471 809207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `bf' failed with: <> < 1455676508 283117 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had one in 2000, but probably it wasn't public... since I really wanted to write one in C. < 1455676539 406130 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1455676560 554 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 2000 hadn't even learned haskell < 1455676564 413186 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : * history: * 13-10-2000: initial version, in Haskell * 14-10-2000: initial version in C < 1455676570 546576 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1455676580 487206 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+i < 1455676591 878184 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think march 2006 was just before the end of my big internet break < 1455676619 872532 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455676637 967278 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, sleep. < 1455676670 777080 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was the year i did learn it. not before, anyway. < 1455676707 211154 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, dishes < 1455676876 634704 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< 2^1234-1 | tr -d \\n\\\\ < 1455676879 97087 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :29581122460809862906004469571610359078633968713537299223955620705065735079623892426105383724837805018644364775907095599312082089933038176093702721248284094494136211066544377518349572681192920386118201521832389207735598339319120892886765265599360248790311370854940266862452110061179427034023276609931709804888749380902312739825386061877261903500988327 < 1455676881 177544 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor it < 1455676885 943610 :AlexR42!~textual@136.169.241.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455676943 459874 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego cut off part of it < 1455676953 659937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2^1234-1) = ((2^617)^2) - (1^2) = (2^617-1)(2^617+1) < 1455676969 692158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably factors further though < 1455677057 687863 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unfair, my computer didn't know about that < 1455677082 899150 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I printed out R5RS and Haskell98 in 2000 for my summer reading < 1455677088 991108 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :u always cheating >:( < 1455677117 835911 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: how about harry potter < 1455677126 999059 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I've never read it < 1455677143 893192 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION deletes adu from her friends on myspace
< 1455677155 871092 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy reading user manuals < 1455677168 42322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: this is the reason that mersenne primes always have a prime in the exponent < 1455677212 70486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it it /definitely/ factors further; one of (2^617-1), (2^617+1), and 2^617 has got to be divisible by 3 < 1455677215 220953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not going to be 2^617 < 1455677262 629597 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1455677285 107890 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^617 is not divisible by 3 < 1455677306 888298 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1455677311 328164 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what he said < 1455677361 276526 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I haven't been on myspace in 15 years < 1455677373 193255 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been on myspace < 1455677458 189430 :AlexR42!~textual@136.169.241.139 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1455677514 566803 :AlexR42!~textual@136.169.241.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455677856 424903 :AlexR42!~textual@136.169.241.139 QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1455678444 166328 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1455678472 392189 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, because 2 divides 1234 < 1455678479 953947 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 1234 < 1455678482 735930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234: 2 617 < 1455678497 561653 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's it. is 2^617-1 a prime? < 1455678528 227534 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^617+1 probably isn't. < 1455678543 380675 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2^617+1)`mod` 3 < 1455678553 479125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1455678559 318673 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, it's not that big < 1455678561 397509 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2^617+1)`mod` 3 < 1455678590 230585 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot must be overworked < 1455678634 334986 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 == -1 (mod 3), so 2^617 == -1 (mod 3). so it's 2^617+1. < 1455678742 901552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^617-1 is not on the list of known mersenne primes, so it's presumably checked and found not. < 1455678757 231364 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1455678757 373672 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1455678763 40725 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1455678775 526312 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot never answered back on the last one < 1455678785 613785 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2^617-1)`mod` 5 < 1455678800 431220 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hi" < 1455678807 293828 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1455678817 386419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1455678830 879478 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nfw lambdabot should have trouble calculating that < 1455678841 763088 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (2^617-1)`mod` 5 < 1455678859 532240 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and int-e went to bed < 1455678879 354750 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< 2^617-1 < 1455678880 609908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :54388530464436950905813832350972787438550335255248068935623079751721\ \ 32452975126965649024023195947885249426733939164170397148972417563722\ \ 13155348458256985448390483221335442656288489603071 < 1455678895 744663 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< 2^617-1 | tail -1 < 1455678896 658634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13155348458256985448390483221335442656288489603071 < 1455678898 850152 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2^617-1)`mod` 5 < 1455678917 286386 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not divisible by 5 < 1455678936 359590 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hi" < 1455678950 763975 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the @run plugin is having trouble. < 1455678950 943422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1455678962 835515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hi" < 1455678970 641918 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455679019 696751 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< (2^617)%5 < 1455679020 595587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `bc <<< (2^617)%5' < 1455679024 195447 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1455679048 184748 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is the date format MM-DD-YYYY? < 1455679086 242262 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No good, even haskell's lambdabot is having trouble. < 1455679100 426153 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* #haskell < 1455679113 273351 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: um they're the same bot hth < 1455679136 426607 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '(2^617)%5' < 1455679137 286723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1455679144 507938 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< 'scale' < 1455679145 290717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1455679147 829860 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1455679151 923497 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '(2^617)%7' < 1455679152 957050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1455679168 886793 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm 7 is a mersenne prime so no point in checking it < 1455679172 901432 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '(2^617)%11' < 1455679173 846524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1455679176 649078 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '(2^617)%13' < 1455679177 806544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 < 1455679183 486834 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '(2^617)%17' < 1455679184 359898 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1455679187 71977 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '(2^617)%19' < 1455679187 975353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 < 1455679224 502379 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah loops in bash... < 1455679235 642791 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bc, for that matter < 1455679282 987206 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc << '2^2^2^2' < 1455679284 183791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: warning: here-document at line 4 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `2^2^2^2') < 1455679296 613625 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can't other IRC channels run their own instances of the bot? < 1455679299 995940 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< '2^2^2^2' < 1455679301 65781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :65536 < 1455679338 750774 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: well sure, but not with the same nick on the same network < 1455679507 995411 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< 'for (i=23;;i++) { if (2^617%i==0) { print i; break; } }' < 1455679508 873231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 < 1455679515 89987 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1455679524 892027 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1455679532 202053 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bc <<< 'for (i=23;;i++) { if (2^617%i==1) { print i; break; } }' < 1455679538 70081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :59233 < 1455679545 190274 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1455679560 948332 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives oerjan a golden cookie
< 1455679570 434371 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps should have added 2 instead of incrementing < 1455679575 402890 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*munch* < 1455679587 983880 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455679589 969868 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1455679633 619555 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1455679652 220965 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at some c++ compiler output to see how much operation chaining it has < 1455679664 567587 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaining? < 1455679666 330580 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like about 50% of ops could be chained < 1455679675 399178 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chained? < 1455679680 786701 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, basically a series of operations that update the same register < 1455679698 165741 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :example of chain: < 1455679698 808692 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :079443AF subss xmm1,xmm3 < 1455679698 951076 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :079443B3 mulss xmm1,xmm4 ; chain < 1455679699 93449 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :079443BE addss xmm1,xmm7 ; chain < 1455679699 93519 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :079443C2 movss dword ptr [esi+2F4h],xmm1 ; chain < 1455679699 93558 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :079443D2 mulss xmm1,xmm4 ; chain < 1455679730 434717 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 consecutive operations involving the same < 1455679733 20448 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :register < 1455679808 292573 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think how that might apply to "belts" < 1455679847 139152 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_CPU_Architecture#The_Belt.2C_a_pipelining_register_system < 1455679873 847873 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik, the belt is essentially an improved VLIW < 1455679893 821190 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could do the chain but it has to mix it up with a few other calculations to run in parallel < 1455679996 553666 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik the main problem that the belt fixes is that it makes it really easy to write 4+ values at the same time < 1455680006 543067 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they just end up on contiguous belt spaces < 1455680037 981908 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of that cpuid clusterf**k < 1455680053 33136 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpuid clusterfuck? < 1455680078 949298 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpuid instruction returns data in like 4 registers, right? < 1455680103 271178 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sometimes 2, I think, sometimes 4, iirc < 1455680115 850469 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't be good < 1455680140 893387 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have different meaning depepding on the input < 1455680163 480639 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 3; ebs, ecx and edx < 1455680182 763136 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no < 1455680185 169117 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I still think its a clusterf**k < 1455680193 703739 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really does depend on what's in EAX < 1455680217 233085 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the belt basically fixes a sequence like add r4, r7, r6; sub r3, r11, r13; and r2, r21, r19; mul r5, r1, r20 < 1455680229 101060 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "processor brand string" is returned in EAX thru EDX < 1455680229 516845 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you typically find on VLIW cpus < 1455680292 929923 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpuid is basically a vector of bits the size of the known universe < 1455680394 943354 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it writes different parts of the cpuid to eax,ebx,ecx,edx depending on which part you ask for? < 1455680445 765977 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas fungot, does the amplitude of gravity waves attenuate linearly or quadratically in distance? <-- *gravitational hth < 1455680445 908537 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if the power, as duly noted. i've been up on the mountain is symbolic of the eternal quest for wisdom and understanding beyond what you or the weepies as their ruler now. < 1455680445 908628 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455680457 438082 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and if EAX = 0x00000004 then it writes an ASCII string to EAX:EBX:ECX:EDX < 1455680504 96664 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, wait? < 1455680509 448407 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1455680509 761551 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF it's even worse < 1455680552 535667 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455680556 147574 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so microcoded < 1455680684 368070 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why they couldn't just make users detect cpu by seeing which instructions work? < 1455680717 687079 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: like adding something to cflags like a "not implemented bit"? < 1455680727 882318 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1455680754 896691 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bit turns on if an instruction is maformed < 1455680813 720951 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that would only work on archs with constant size opcodes < 1455680816 841952 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because doing an illegal instruction triggers an interrupt < 1455680829 817623 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which easily eats hundreads of cycles < 1455680835 86188 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: x86 doesn't have that < 1455680870 856505 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also flags are bad < 1455680882 79547 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could just make users execute instructions then catch the SIGILL? < 1455680922 555264 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I like how you're thinking outside the box, but you need two paths either way < 1455680930 944726 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren : ok but then where does windows restrart the thread? < 1455680954 993255 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might as well be represented by an instruction that gives you data to test against < 1455680959 24474 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally you want to avoid SIGILL as much as possible < 1455680966 303013 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or exceptions in general < 1455680983 120202 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exceptions are horrible and you should probably only have the page fault exception < 1455681007 439648 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but I don't think an auxiliary function like CPUID needs to be fast < 1455681019 575262 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think cpuid is fast :D < 1455681096 467504 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they could just try 50 instructions, catch 50 SIGILL's, and conclude this is a 80286 < 1455681152 273551 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but then Intel can't brag with their "GenuineIntel" string < 1455681152 415974 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: Could be another dwarf. <-- btw that made me realize that the high priestess doesn't have an accent... < 1455681162 111390 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik that's not how you detect a 286 < 1455681180 954223 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :early x86 cores have bugs and you can differentiate them that way < 1455681185 635906 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA, and now we see the REAL reason to use an ASCII string in some registers! < 1455681204 365475 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-091-029.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455681209 810284 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bragging rights? < 1455681215 180174 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf ais523: Could be another dwarf. <-- btw that made me realize that the high priestess doesn't have an accent... < 1455681215 322548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455681216 389386 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1455681218 622503 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455681223 241553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1455681223 423477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8s ago: ais523: Could be another dwarf. <-- btw that made me realize that the high priestess doesn't have an accent... < 1455681230 263164 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody marketeers < 1455681281 855750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: obviously a vampire in disguise hth < 1455681318 841661 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1455681323 806850 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu < 1455681329 807123 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm working on λ-nomic < 1455681343 159649 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've almost got the rules working :) < 1455681350 31217 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm learning supervisord < 1455681355 326785 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: EEK < 1455681365 563621 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idiotic idea! < 1455681387 386511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i guess a vampire pretending to be human would have a twisty speech bubble < 1455681390 907216 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Never heard of it < 1455681401 101182 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the OS, on older processors, catched SIGILL, read the instruction in question, and emulated it? < 1455681408 744428 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's a deamon container < 1455681411 177030 :earendel!~koko@176.4.68.76 QUIT :Quit: earendel < 1455681419 237465 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: OK? < 1455681497 381581 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would allow an OS to run programs for later processors (at terrible speed, but still) < 1455681551 992734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by human i mean not undead sorry for speciesism < 1455681586 429960 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ : I think that's used to emulate an fpu on some systems < 1455681624 761673 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually some fpu ops trigger a software fallback I think < 1455681638 960172 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally stuff like multiplying by infinity and so forth < 1455681706 779165 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: this is bad < 1455681707 644289 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm i had never thought malack's twistiness was more than just reptilianness < 1455681723 603942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, the black undead speech bubbles weren't twisted < 1455681761 945286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i thought the white bubbles were twisted as a result of hiding his true colors < 1455681846 446225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455681871 286645 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ : also, generally all cpu features are speed features so it kindof misses the point :D < 1455681918 590473 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed the reptilians in the arena had normal bubbles < 1455682078 757733 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm just rationalizing the fact i didn't guess malack was a vampire until he revealed it completely. < 1455682154 227831 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with a strange musical instrument classification < 1455682389 740926 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I: easy to build instruments that everybody has: flutes, drums, hand percussions < 1455682393 506594 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :II: eurasian instruments that spread both west and east: shawms, zithers, lutes, bowed lutes < 1455682400 112217 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :III: instruments that more or less everybody has but are only developed in some regions: trumpets, harps, xylophones, bells, cymbals < 1455682405 450904 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IV: regional instruments: bagpipes, free reeds, organs, gongs, misc chromatic percussion, electronic instruments < 1455682448 495581 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455682516 754986 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Where would panpipes fit in there? < 1455682520 16932 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455682524 471697 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flutes < 1455682591 491624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?219611-Malack-s-speech-bubble has a bunch of other examples of that sort of bubble < 1455682743 318646 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235 : actually it could be a category separate from flutes < 1455682765 13806 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would still be in group I or III (probably III) since it evolved in multiple places < 1455682940 723592 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also considering folding the bagpipes into the shawm group < 1455683688 826911 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ucuylhtcgmncbzjp QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1455683729 147638 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uewbkoiscnmrdgjh JOIN :#esoteric < 1455684394 3661 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455684579 126641 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455684940 551039 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455685202 535640 :Guest9703!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455685277 66364 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455685398 433083 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: last comment: "When in doubt use Occam's Razor. Its certainly more plausible for Malack to have poor health than for Malack to be a secret vampire with magical sun-block powers." < 1455685419 550621 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think occam's razor needs a bit sharpening, there < 1455685639 957437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was p. perceptive of Eigenclass < 1455685676 438687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even Eigenclass didn't notice the spelling "bloodwart", though < 1455685708 862864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, my sister posted in that thread < 1455685724 171156 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1455685974 677816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan > 1455686254 964533 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455686259 30397 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455686259 538768 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455686295 5862 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455686299 70720 JOIN :#esoteric > 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427502 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455686703 548769 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1455686763 597286 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 0 s k x y = x, 1 s k x y = y, (n+m) s k x y = n s k (m s k x y) (m s k y (x y)) i think < 1455686771 892270 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1455686780 100409 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1455686782 873769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455686783 11260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1455686893 680632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the bot will get bad habits if you botsnack before the job is done < 1455686911 762311 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point > 1455688731 206523 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688735 273152 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688735 781559 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688771 247116 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688775 312899 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688775 820928 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688811 286899 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688815 353727 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688815 862148 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688851 326399 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688855 387281 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688855 895394 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688891 363876 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688895 428916 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688895 936823 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688931 407105 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688935 472565 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688935 980946 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688971 441345 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688975 489018 JOIN :#esoteric > 1455688975 994467 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455688987 382898 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1455689014 298997 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: http://206.174.0.58:81/ < 1455689029 598631 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455689049 387614 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for testing purposes < 1455689077 382832 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1455689099 545174 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's not complete, of course, it's really just a primitive environment for testing < 1455689130 106335 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1455689251 834001 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, polling is the worst < 1455689263 973884 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use websockets < 1455689296 594436 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, if you want to really bring out the buzz words, HTTP/2 < 1455689742 669191 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1455690199 706423 :andrew__!~andrew@119.137.91.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455690276 382987 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455690428 621256 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455690450 256771 :andrew__!~andrew@119.137.91.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455690522 996957 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1455690548 198605 :andrew_!~andrew@119.137.91.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455691085 717810 :Guest55944!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455691335 710784 :Guest55944!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455691802 397085 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1455691973 819432 :andrew_!~andrew@119.137.91.34 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455691998 639109 :andrew_!~andrew@119.137.91.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455692126 649269 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455692352 141989 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so i have an idea for a kernel thing < 1455692380 613156 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you can specify a set of environment variables < 1455692385 884056 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1455692401 777639 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what's the best way, maybe the kernel command line, maybe somewhere in /proc < 1455692408 34730 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every other variable is removed < 1455692467 383060 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455692475 121625 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can still specify TERM and COLUMNS and LINES, and you avoid problems like shellshock and all the mess with PROGRAMNAME_OPTIONS like grep or ls or whatever < 1455692479 548537 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell adu Polling is bad, but it works < 1455692490 125012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455692740 983336 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell adu It's just a prototype, keep in mind < 1455692741 293341 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455692855 724809 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1455693122 47264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“<\oren\> I don't see why they couldn't just make users detect cpu by seeing which instructions work?” – that was the old method, but the problem with it is that it breaks horribly in virtualized CPUs with hot migration, plus also instructions that are declared NOPs on old CPUs but do some sort of optimization on new CPUs. < 1455693147 108963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but some old features still have to be checked that way < 1455693159 787224 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455693165 61001 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily none on x86_64, because those features are guaranteed to work on x86_64 < 1455693250 897429 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1455693471 431160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oerjan: as for speech bubbles, (1) the bugs, which shouldn't be able to breathe, have normal speech bubbles, and (2) the Giant said something that basically implies that you can't really get much info from speech bubbles because people can change them or whatever < 1455693514 598586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=14733452 < 1455693666 533289 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“last comment: "When in doubt use Occam's Razor. Its certainly more plausible for Malack to have poor health than for Malack to be a secret vampire with magical sun-block powers."” – that heuristic has some base: Professor Snape turned out to be not secretly a vampire in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, despite that the Half-Blood Prince confirms that vampires really exist in the HP world < 1455693690 674899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uncyclopedia < 1455693699 467532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncyclopedia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455693707 467302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1455693709 515593 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1455693841 54256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in http://unicyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/AA < 1455693844 451747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'uncyclopedia': Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in http://unicyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/AA < 1455694113 825219 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455694574 807550 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^(ax^2+bx+c) < 1455694582 769748 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric := 42 < 1455694637 746507 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^x < 1455694638 892980 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: unicyclopedia or uncyclopedia? < 1455694644 818739 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no output < 1455694646 112941 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm compiling ALL the weird graphs < 1455694710 562566 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/uncyclopedia < 1455694712 207149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in http://unicyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/AA < 1455694723 840820 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/unicy/uncy/ wisdom/uncyclopedia < 1455694727 798341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455694737 968999 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uncyclopedia < 1455694739 120226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/AA < 1455694743 646637 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^x^x^x^x^x^x < 1455694750 824995 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric := 123456789 < 1455694767 92177 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What other weird graphs are there? < 1455694779 736315 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :x+1 < 1455694799 358494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn oerjan is always factually accurate, except for sentences that begin with AA < 1455694890 59884 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1455694898 454798 :jaboja!~jaboja@eji207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455694958 215316 :jaboja!~jaboja@emj89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455694993 117509 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y=|x|^x is amaaaaaaaaazing < 1455695000 554980 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need equations.txt < 1455695009 94830 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch equations < 1455695011 556976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455695024 610946 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "x^x" >> equations < 1455695027 53938 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455695032 857350 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat equations < 1455695033 875959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^x < 1455695042 781842 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "|x|^x" >> equations < 1455695045 178282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455695050 742665 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat equations < 1455695051 659399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^x \ |x|^x < 1455695596 737825 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized < 1455695608 146680 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|x|^x has two asymptotes < 1455695994 657284 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455696515 749255 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455696539 85908 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-214-208.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455696540 481862 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1455696936 961737 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: What are they? < 1455696967 594503 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: I was wrong, according to ##math < 1455696976 602302 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I only see one... < 1455696977 589460 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: But it does have 1 at y=0 < 1455696990 286764 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, that's the one I see... < 1455696997 202826 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: I thought the x>0 part was congruent with the x<0 part < 1455697007 580971 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: It made sense at the time < 1455697030 382171 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Okay. < 1455697145 316024 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: I think I found a good random number generator < 1455697149 317726 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Probably not though < 1455697175 60184 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines searching for random number generators hiding out in jungles and forests...
< 1455697234 519244 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: sin(x)+2*sin(x/2)+3*sin(x/3)+4*sin(x/4)... < 1455697244 866750 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not good at the "random" part, but it sure is erratic < 1455697305 265463 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then mix a cos() in at the primes xD < 1455697431 630797 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look that erratic to me... < 1455697444 152686 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably because I'm doing something wrong. < 1455697481 367657 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: It repeats itself, yes, but it's pretty crazy < 1455697498 576823 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... how so? < 1455697575 944329 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^sin(x) < 1455697587 53044 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: It just is < 1455697592 627550 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: You have to see it to understand < 1455697614 149702 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to see it, but as I said, I'm probably doing something wrong. Care to show me? < 1455697623 745812 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm trying to literally see it, not figuratively) < 1455697696 796201 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do see x^sin(x) though. Looks... interesting. < 1455697760 960479 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: It does < 1455697780 982198 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: I was wondering for a while if such a function like that existed- one where the sine's amplitude grows over time < 1455697846 198318 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin^cos looks interesting too, though completely irrelevant. < 1455697872 211399 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not so interesting. < 1455697888 746690 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though kind-of interesting. < 1455698008 448109 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: Reminds me of tan < 1455698055 416786 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it should've been obvious x sin(x) would produce the growing sine function < 1455698059 647640 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks different depending on what I use to graph it. ._. < 1455698064 507610 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s^c, I mean) < 1455698165 67111 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must've mis-typed something, now everything's agreeing it seems. < 1455698207 150808 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION leaves, because zgrep has to sleep at some point today, probably
< 1455698771 912937 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455699005 689928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: yes < 1455699020 519752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! don't do that < 1455699026 583596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote unicyclopedia deliberately < 1455699028 230548 :jaboja!~jaboja@emj89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455699038 193534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uncyclopedia < 1455699042 704339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/AA < 1455699090 596628 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perlr -i -pe 's"un(cyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki)"uni$1" and warn "replace ok"' wisdom/uncyclopedia < 1455699092 702713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: perlr: command not found < 1455699096 661103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -i -pe 's"un(cyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki)"uni$1" and warn "replace ok"' wisdom/uncyclopedia < 1455699098 705632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace ok at -e line 1, <> line 1. < 1455699103 942736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uncyclopedia < 1455699105 54689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in http://unicyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/AA < 1455699109 689855 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.137.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455699208 589880 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455699232 686061 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455699337 82695 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the url is wrong < 1455699387 836154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicyclopedia is actually at https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Unicyclopedia < 1455699426 985561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -i -pe 's"http://\S+"https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/The_Unicyclopedia" and warn "replace ok"' wisdom/uncyclopedia < 1455699428 792150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace ok at -e line 1, <> line 1. < 1455699437 816628 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uncyclopedia < 1455699438 804485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/The_Unicyclopedia < 1455699963 384433 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1455700374 384192 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455700878 575213 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1455701564 385801 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1455701665 145541 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455701670 755370 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455702004 97322 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455702262 175491 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1455702756 979460 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455702757 958615 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-clebuwrtjnvrzyfc QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455702758 217549 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455702759 398761 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cceqawspvetlxaqf QUIT 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:ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eovlvkazohxzmmue JOIN :#esoteric < 1455703690 866088 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455703691 106247 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455703691 238230 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455703691 361162 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455703691 961807 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455703707 499945 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455703716 208662 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455703746 694623 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455703746 756754 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1455703746 799843 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455703763 571814 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 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:AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1455708990 880334 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455709194 978064 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709195 544719 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709196 97217 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709196 578753 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709196 833361 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709196 970581 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709197 110564 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709197 198173 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709197 282693 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709197 510446 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709198 84589 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455709198 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462359 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks JOIN :#esoteric < 1455712377 234725 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1455712453 43071 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455712639 445950 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455712942 745713 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455713013 604505 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxpltlomyzhpwjcl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455713299 259160 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1455713340 421042 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1455713522 38943 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rykizuilufhnbamo JOIN :#esoteric < 1455713740 967474 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455714141 421445 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455714196 836438 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1455714280 248125 :bender|!~benderx2@59.189.182.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455714500 470161 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-091-029.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1455714596 425237 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-091-029.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1455714757 372381 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-107-169.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455715654 5426 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnurd < 1455715720 264023 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-76-127.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1455715720 459363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-76-127.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1455715720 459413 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1455716388 84107 :andrew_!~andrew@119.137.91.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455716611 381276 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime < 1455716611 579079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime: 3h 37m 57s, longest uptime: 1m 12d 14h 14m 14s < 1455716615 956830 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so much for that < 1455716923 83353 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455717034 541847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455717034 699819 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :*.net *.split < 1455717042 599393 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1455717179 990933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1455717616 788967 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455718114 882960 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455718918 320307 :bender|!~benderx2@59.189.182.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1455719172 692741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pandora14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46409&oldid=45992 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+69) 10/* External resources */ < 1455720552 394448 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455720561 670805 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455720809 207444 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455721454 930871 :spiette_!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455721508 267371 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1455721526 682733 :spiette_!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca NICK :spiette < 1455722454 99538 :j-bot!~j-bot@45.79.186.84 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455722467 535035 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1455722474 803080 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455722536 328132 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455722915 540595 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ocwvstjybosmckvg QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1455722990 792968 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vvqtlynsqvjfvhcc JOIN :#esoteric < 1455723244 126022 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455724971 621479 :AlexR42!~textual@136.169.241.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455724978 131018 :AlexR42!~textual@136.169.241.139 QUIT :Client Quit < 1455725295 355840 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.146 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1455725378 550105 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455725428 55734 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455725648 317731 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455726327 93381 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1455726535 616986 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1455727475 605431 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1455727549 268449 :Guest76594!~nitrix@104.236.108.9 QUIT :Changing host < 1455727549 426103 :Guest76594!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1455727552 148125 :Guest76594!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix NICK :nitrix < 1455727553 276117 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-107-169.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455727831 783290 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/3191/write-the-fastest-fibonacci < 1455728070 493408 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1455728406 687163 :MDream!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1455728772 580021 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455729128 233777 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i convert from latex to .doc ? < 1455729132 858368 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1455729626 577004 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1455729646 286512 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455729926 502035 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455730240 594645 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fcgywrjeyjvnrnfa QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1455730393 723932 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vvqtlynsqvjfvhcc QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455730416 767899 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tkgmfgcshgisvjhi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730442 344283 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxpltlomyzhpwjcl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1455730490 166009 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455730538 436206 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455730585 730483 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455730745 897027 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730772 980853 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730788 734255 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1455730794 667451 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730823 66991 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ektwtccafzhjntaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730823 225148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo the output file contains a newline < 1455730878 846733 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730909 74042 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1455730993 611491 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455731845 555268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Convert to a .png and include it in the .doc. < 1455731986 789250 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1455732070 314806 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455732074 816803 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455732119 209502 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1455732147 69901 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455732268 714004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is that using 'print' (which uses Show, so one would expect an intermediate Char list) is faster than going through a lazy bytestring... < 1455732908 465114 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I got a tiny speedup by using Data.ByteString.Builder instead of plain print. < 1455732961 321308 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455733031 556096 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455733173 978929 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455733292 620273 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455733312 172274 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spreading the word: update your glibc < 1455733504 76347 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455733563 28578 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455733585 284664 :jaboja!~jaboja@aaj62.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1455733629 59673 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455733680 92722 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1455733752 41537 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: https://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2016/02/cve-2015-7547-glibc-getaddrinfo-stack.html < 1455733760 156415 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1455733813 526216 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :an instance of perililisation... < 1455733836 992063 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455733944 90448 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1455734614 19744 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455734663 414454 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1455735447 232171 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1455735653 829182 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1455736490 112561 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455736558 582391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455737313 958650 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455737495 5710 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455738507 458484 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1455738634 52740 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455738898 443440 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455739757 365638 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455740010 234776 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.137.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>((4/3)/(16:9)) < 1455740225 33910 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455740905 60465 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455741258 565466 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: print consumes the list directly, so pretty much only one cons (if even any at all) would be alive at any point < 1455741293 39201 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1455741306 938673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many use Heirloom Mailx as their email client? It is what I am using now < 1455741446 333413 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I know, but the cons cells are allocated (integerToString is not defined in terms of "build", so there's no fusion)... so I still find it impressive. < 1455741454 47825 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455741509 439205 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455741576 550779 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455742539 839024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1455742547 590857 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome b_jonas < 1455742558 145626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455742564 267550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1455742565 436450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic geometry/Hyperbolic Geometry is geometry that is exaggerated to the point of absurdity. < 1455742580 228275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what theme are on you right now? < 1455742613 476495 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a silent theme < 1455742647 826975 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well GTMO is an interesting place < 1455742672 418842 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some parts are awful, other parts are so good that a prisoner opted to stay instead of being transferred out < 1455742842 862196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I had a crazy idea for a M:tG card. Name: Shadows of Ills to Come | MC: 1B | Type: Sorcery | Abi: All creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn. When Shadows of Ills to Come resolves, end this power- and toughness-changing effect. < 1455743483 763122 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1455743516 590888 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1455743610 79749 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1455743635 638556 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm, I guess that's cheap. And you can play instants with the -1/-1 still in effect. < 1455743711 383742 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I understand correctly) < 1455743780 676261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it "until end of turn"? < 1455743812 27650 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone might stifle the triggered ability? < 1455743812 962391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about an enchantment that has a trigger when it enters the battlefield? < 1455743832 546647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like a more conventional way to get a similar effect. < 1455743890 592835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If the trigger is not resolved, due to Stifle or Time Stop etc, then the card would create crazy memory issues where you would have to remember the locked in set of creatures. The "until end of turn" might not be a perfect solution, and certainly removes some of the elegance, but I couldn't figure out anything better. < 1455743896 639396 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.137.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1455743955 548481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: why do you think it's cheap? I compare the cost to Nausea or Shrivel, and I don't think this is much more powerful. < 1455743962 431147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be better or worse than those. < 1455743991 845555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can play instants with the -1/-1 still in effect, yes. < 1455744026 963042 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.137.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455744063 918856 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455744065 107049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the thing I'm describing is like Evoke. < 1455744079 368715 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You could make it an enchantment, but it would probably have to destroy itself imediately, which is confusing for an enchantment, plus the text would be longer, even if you don't want lock-in. I don't see what the advantage would be, unless you put it to a more expensive enchantment that does something else too. < 1455744119 77585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, a permanent seems simpler than a sorcery's effect. < 1455744134 560427 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I find those cards cheap as well. I'm sure there are better ones around... < 1455744140 669293 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.208.252 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1455744159 319083 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think so, since for an enchantment it would be strange to only do something the turn it etb, and if it was a creature, it would likely have to cost more, unless it had some ugly drawback. < 1455744188 378866 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to stay away from M:tG for my own good :P < 1455744201 118885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name: Something | MC: | Type: Enchantment | Abi: All creates have -1/-1 / Evoke 1B < 1455744205 924806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :creatures < 1455744209 490856 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: even if it was just 0/1 (unusual for black) and said "other creatures" so it doesn't kill itself immediately, {1B} would likely be cheap for it. < 1455744213 79595 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1455744254 387073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um, that can stay on the battlefield indefinitely, for many turns. you definitely can't cost that at 1B, and it would probably be too cheap even for 1BB < 1455744271 323290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess stifle effects are more common than I think. < 1455744299 467882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think there are three or four cards with stifle effects, and two or three with time stop effects < 1455744316 772207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they aren't common, but the time stop effects are new, so there will likely be more < 1455744348 294331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ they're all on rare or higher rarity cards < 1455744404 892853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see. There are three cards with "end the turn", but one is a sorcery so it needs an extra card to cast while the trigger is on the stack; < 1455744436 583574 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455744455 27508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems there are three cards with a stifle effect. < 1455744481 333512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: O, I like that I have thought of stuff like that too actually, and also shachaf's way I have thought of too < 1455744496 839916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: great < 1455744545 220203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to look up two things before I templated this by the way. One was the exact template of Nausea. Guess what the other was. < 1455744565 855116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now figured out how to override scrollbars in Firefox; you have to use Stylish and AGENT_SHEET and an extension called "User Chrome" that makes a chrome:// space for the file, and you also have to specify the -moz-binding CSS rule for the scrollbar as important. < 1455744593 258755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you use userChrome.css instead and don't set as important, then only the sidebar is affected and not anything else; I don't know why) < 1455744674 430371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using this it would be possible to override other user interface elements too < 1455744706 570223 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1455744867 982257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one other possibility I thought of that would avoid the "until end of turn" thing, but I prefer this method. The text box could simply say “All creatures get -1/-1 until the beginning of the next combat.” without any triggered stuff. < 1455744902 558009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that one is ugly, it can act throughout some of the next turn. < 1455744940 448182 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At that point you'd almost certainly not be able to print it at common, since the lock-in rule is much more relevant. < 1455744963 217302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, even the way I prefer, you probably wouldn't print it at common. < 1455744972 227586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trigger alone is confusing enough. < 1455745112 598450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not confusing < 1455745150 72403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However in my opinion that nevertheless should not determine the rarity of the card. Rarity should be determined by the effect on Limited < 1455745157 681229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, but you're more familiar with the rules than most people, and write REALLY crazy card ideas, no offense < 1455745173 917522 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455745190 983059 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal people will wonder whether there 1/1 creature is now dead... < 1455745201 565820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't know what the other thing you looked up was. < 1455745204 165093 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and rarity is determined by multiple factors, but complexity is one of them, and a too complex card would cause the problem that it would make Limited more confusing, especially as decks usually have more different and diverse cards in Limited than in most Constructed formats < 1455745223 99057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Is there another card with "When ... resolves"? < 1455745236 602211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and you have to make decks quickly, so having lots of confusing cards in the card pool hurts more than in Constructed usually < 1455745244 338159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :experienced players will wonder in which order triggers of creatures that die from the -1/-1 and the trigger of the spell resolving go on the stack. < 1455745269 251801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I haven't checked, but IMO no. "resolves" is mentioned a lot in reminder texts though. < 1455745270 626279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the effect of the gameplay in Limited is one thing, however it also depends on what set it belongs to. Rarity may be different per set too. < 1455745302 548827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in general, that effect seems it would not ruin the game much at common so it should be OK at common < 1455745304 814290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But never as a trigger, right? "As it resolves" is different from "when it resolves". < 1455745323 447247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( resolve target spell ) < 1455745331 364484 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: good observation. that probably should be mentioned in the set FAQ / release notes, if this was in a set < 1455745469 138048 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the answer is that first the active player (who is likely the player who cast Shadows) puts all triggers to the stack in the order he wants (these include the Shadow trigger and possibly any triggers he controls, such as triggers from his own creatures dying), then the non-active player puts triggers onto the stack < 1455745480 243207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, as far as I know it's never a trigger < 1455745553 982222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, the rarity can depend on the set, and obviously you have to consider "gameplay" in the more broad sense (not only during the game proper as defined by the Comp Rules). My original version _could_ be ok in common, but I see it rather as an uncommon. < 1455745585 838497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, uncommon might be better, although I think it depends on the other cards in the set, what the rarity should be < 1455745596 232477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Mostly because if you wanted a common, you'd just reprint Shrivel instead. < 1455745607 354574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is why my own custom cards have no rarities assigned) < 1455745618 686767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1455745680 681447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have to rewrite all the cards that give you colorless mana. < 1455745683 442167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a scow. < 1455745683 747629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: the other thing I had to look up for templating this card was whether "to" is usually capitalized in card names. < 1455745693 706313 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they have already rewritten all of them. < 1455745703 579171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the Oracle already contains the new text. < 1455745706 994092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but now they have to reprint all of them. < 1455745712 381544 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... no < 1455745719 447735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to reprint cards just for an oracle change < 1455745721 411488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They don't *have* to; it still works in the other way too < 1455745725 979073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many of them will likely never be reprinted < 1455745736 963342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it says "Add {1} to your mana pool", it still works. < 1455745765 408093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I refuse to play with cards that have the wrong text. < 1455745768 687640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rule 106.10 causes it to work) < 1455745789 931549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I believe they should not have to change it. < 1455745816 265514 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, the old Oracle text still works, supported by the rules, mostly because of Elemental Resonance and a very few other cards. < 1455745821 695650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't know about rule 106.10. < 1455745845 964918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you really only have such new cards? I mean, a LOT of the old cards have their oracle text changed incompatibly. Many of my cards are affected. < 1455745861 363628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I didn't actually mean what I said. < 1455745884 668735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the ones that aren't basic lands – it's cheap to get new basic lands, unlike new versions of many old cards. < 1455745910 455770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true that I only have relatively new (Innistrad and onward) cards. < 1455745916 605133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But lots of them have had their text changed. < 1455745953 13075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't care if the text is changed. There are a few cases where I care, because the change is either confusing, or makes the card worse than it used to be, but those cases are very rare. < 1455745966 987522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even have one textless card. < 1455745979 685512 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, textless version of a card that does have an ability.) < 1455745986 589688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a basic land? < 1455745988 789896 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1455745996 965328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A full-art Tidings < 1455746003 667272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC < 1455746009 195771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'd have to check this < 1455746012 535621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG < 1455746026 424883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tidings costs 5? It should cost {U} and be an instant. < 1455746043 839843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets his box of blue
< 1455746046 703360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe {UU} to make it balanced. < 1455746052 991457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is textless card should not be allowed < 1455746063 692565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, this is a box of black cards, wrong box. < 1455746079 962279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: now you're joking < 1455746087 83437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that would be like an Ancestral Super-Recall. < 1455746227 316983 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remembered right, it's Tidings. I have three from 9ED, and one textless. < 1455746295 485874 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1455746360 475517 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't have a problem with them. Textless is actually _better_ than the tons of old cards, because for textless, you know you have to look the oracle version of the text up, whereas for the tons of old cards I have, a third of which have changed the text in a rules-significant way, you never know when you have to look up the correct text. < 1455746384 360409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, you can always pretend a card is textless. < 1455746397 289422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it seems odd to call it better. < 1455746422 103140 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And even if they can be careful with new cards to try to print them such that their text likely doesn't have to change much in the future, for old cards, the damage is already done, and they can't just make all the old cards (ones I've already paid for) unusable. < 1455746444 101053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least not most of them. A very few do get such errata that they become much worse than they used to be, but most don't. < 1455746450 616435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A few become better.) < 1455746531 960438 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that stings me the most is Daru Stinger by the way, but that one they actually errataed _back_ so it says the same as is printed on it, but it's worse than it was when I bought the playset. < 1455746551 323370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's really an exceptional case. < 1455746567 966478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1455746589 40299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Scryb Sprites fly as well as ever. < 1455746590 598524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Errataed back? < 1455746606 457266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you should write on the card what is the correct current text < 1455746606 878869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: printed as a Soldier, but it used to be a Human Soldier for a long time. < 1455746636 94171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was trying to figure out how the rules text would have changed. < 1455746645 500284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if that text changes again after I wrote it on? I've owned my cards for lots of years, it has happened many times. < 1455746668 102831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Write it on the sleeve. < 1455746749 304031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't have every card permanently sleeved. That would be a bad idea, because the sleeves would wear unevenly, so the cards I use more often would be distinguishable in the deck. I'd have to replace the sleeves VERY often, way more often than now when I sleeve only decks. < 1455746749 934103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is clear what it is meaning and the change doesn't change functions then you don't have to write the new text otherwise you do have to write the new text < 1455746782 43090 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well sure, I don't have to change the reminder text of flying every time they change it < 1455746801 56928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1455746817 8103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's just functional changes, there's a lot of cards that have changed, since I own many old cards < 1455746853 571628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own too many cards. < 1455746853 729223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1455746860 232930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never even use them. < 1455746874 707533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sure, I have lots of cards I never use. < 1455746890 451382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make the game it allow proxies, which one of the thing this can do is part of the avoid this problem < 1455746900 661392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've sold them when they were valuable (in Standard). < 1455746909 557996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not worth the hassle. < 1455746919 611844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now they're not even worth much. < 1455746930 39395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: were they worth much back then? < 1455746967 72986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Sphinx's Revelation, foil Elspeth, Sun's Champion, things like that. < 1455746987 484025 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which Elspeth? < 1455746995 981052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elspeth, Sun's Champion < 1455747016 644273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was ~$50 at the time. < 1455747046 322189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be wrong. < 1455747047 749362 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sphinx's Revelation? < 1455747058 141116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foil Elspeth < 1455747066 508010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, duh, Elspeth, Sun's Champion is one card < 1455747075 749772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped reading at the comma < 1455747120 487501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't follow Theros enough to realize that's the newest card's name (I thought of Elspeth, Knight-Errant) < 1455747140 897758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1455747158 612090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several copies of Garruk, Caller of Beasts, some Stormbreath Dragons. I don't actually know what I have. < 1455747158 770056 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you had more such expensive cards, they might have been worth something < 1455747183 207963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually have expensive cards. Only lots of cheap ones. < 1455747202 80473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played with coworkers. < 1455747598 447021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We only played with cards from packs that we opened. < 1455747691 457947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have older cards too? Like, older than Mirroding Beseiged; how many older than Onslaught? < 1455747739 332745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they started playing in Innistrad. < 1455747745 211795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly played RTR onward. < 1455747763 568427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I see < 1455747951 337616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] zgrep: sin(x)+2*sin(x/2)+3*sin(x/3)+4*sin(x/4)... <-- i think that series doesn't converge for any real value other than x=0 (and if you mean that your generator is something other than the series limit for x=1,2,... then stop abusing notation hth < 1455747951 495693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455748000 548006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you going to close that parenthesis twh < 1455748018 183316 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Indeed. At least, 'tis what Mathematica told me. And unfortunately mathematics is all about abusing notation. :P < 1455748031 176102 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other stuff like logical reasoning, but also notation. < 1455748034 964084 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :even sin(x) + sin(x/2) + sin(x/3) + ... would diverge except for x = 0. < 1455748052 689560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you play magic: the gathering twh < 1455748053 14561 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess not, but I shall.) < 1455748115 674269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455748127 130083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bø/Bø is not just one, but _two_ municipalities in Norway. And not just three, but at least _four_ farms. Ah ah ah ah ah! < 1455748130 248782 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455748131 699300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngram model/An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state < 1455748138 140621 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455748140 793905 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet/The internet is for everything. However many thing can done even without internet too, often better without use of internet, but internet is good too. < 1455748142 406058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455748143 853277 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefull/FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1455748153 352147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455748154 693570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake/The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1455748155 203949 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1455748159 33634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1455748160 747867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disflagrate/disflagrate v.t.perf.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. < 1455748176 36342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, still not here? < 1455748194 841855 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? supernatural < 1455748195 628770 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supernatural? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455748200 339847 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? magic < 1455748202 14649 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic was in you all along. < 1455748209 317843 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funlost < 1455748211 815020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtg < 1455748213 56260 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455748216 382830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/magic < 1455748220 9528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1455748224 873800 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? m:tg < 1455748225 638778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m:tg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455748245 393978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep gather wisdom/* < 1455748248 642380 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fecupboard20 < 1455748257 693285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fecupboard20? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455748263 209675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1455748267 54534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] ) < 1455748267 212469 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455748271 638666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname "*upboard*" < 1455748272 531949 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455748278 395053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1455748287 697703 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1455748288 736868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1455748292 383748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to which one < 1455748295 245030 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's binary because of 0 bytes... right. < 1455748326 601828 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r ga\\ther wisdom < 1455748328 752967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455748350 743486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote gather < 1455748351 534433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1455748379 886943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://stackoverflow.com/a/17794883 < 1455748399 782072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was p. happy with #6 < 1455748401 945377 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? saw < 1455748403 590539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455748410 28225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'nite < 1455748416 687685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: it's only abuse if it means something completely different than what everyone else does hth < 1455748421 897916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1455748422 763046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1455748442 810442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: are you FireFly < 1455748445 125691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFly < 1455748446 19597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1455748449 399804 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1455748455 251772 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then all notation started out an abuse. < 1455748477 735963 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Serenity < 1455748478 588101 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serenity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1455748480 88551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: if everyone else means nothing by it then it's not abuse < 1455748560 817390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in your case, i'm not as sure that it holds for _every_ x /= 0. but maybe it does. < 1455748577 904536 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Symbols must've somehow gotten overloaded, theoretically there would've been a first, popular meaning for a symbol, then more popped up. For example, greek letters. < 1455748586 364868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait hm < 1455748601 902514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure, x/n goes to 0 so sin(x/n) = x/n can be used without affecting convergence < 1455748667 169946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think that's true, but you need that sin(x/n) is also positive. < 1455748686 192217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it is (eventually) < 1455748724 158886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, you need that x/n is positive and sin(x/n) is Theta(x/n) < 1455748787 2855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: x < 0 also works, obviously < 1455748791 363760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1455748808 239028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's probably about the convergence needing to be absolute. < 1455748868 76576 :`^_^!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455748956 780342 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, right. < 1455748962 273472 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1455749033 371397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: to which one <-- that should be obvious given my actions hth < 1455749072 369372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, i missed that tdh < 1455749084 317097 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Indeed the sequence ... + sin(1/cbrt(n)) + sin(1/cbrt(n)) - sin(2/cbrt(n)) + sin(1/cbrt(n+1)) + sin(1/cbrt(n+1)) - sin(2/cbrt(n+1)) + ... diverges, but converges without the sin(). < 1455749168 67870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: http://stackoverflow.com/a/17794883 <-- i had seen and upvoted that already hth < 1455749199 172813 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah good old single-member class dictionaries. < 1455749336 615217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and I still think the reify / reflect terminology is backwards in the literature... values should be concrete, and the types their reflection. < 1455749345 800411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Then all notation started out an abuse. <-- um obviously the notation has to be _previously used_ by everyone for something else hth < 1455749359 169787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's what I think too. < 1455749510 89701 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntjvgmrycyjgkbzn PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Still, notation is most definitely abused nonetheless. Sometimes because it makes it easier to get a point across. A bad example would be \sum_x as opposed to \sum_{x=0}^{2000} when x is known. Now it's fairly common, at some point it wasn't. < 1455749554 761018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\Sum_{x \in X} is the best version. < 1455749566 659649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with mathematical operators having built-in binders? < 1455749586 797209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\Sum (\x -> ...) is the obvious right thing to have. < 1455749765 33814 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-012-191-041.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455749876 362290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that has the problem with conditional convergence again < 1455749884 53297 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.137.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455749896 924462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you need to know the order of terms. < 1455749924 212277 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-107-169.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1455749929 639612 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-107-169.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455749978 500810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, well, it's true for exists and forall < 1455749987 643652 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1455750004 12528 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-012-191-041.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1455750006 828298 :earendel!~anuska@176.0.137.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455750256 34944 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1455750283 236643 :`^_^!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1455750292 310960 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455750399 992536 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1455751317 233187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to disable the existing event handler for the XUL scrollbar so that only mine will be used? How I have it now, it is implementing both < 1455751496 952790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1455751801 884189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: byeli < 1455752583 9882 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan byerjan! < 1455752583 207374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1455752899 955864 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp < 1455752901 776228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost figured it out < 1455752934 820865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding disabled="true" to the xul:slider element disabled the normal left button event, but not the normal middle button event < 1455752934 978654 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does a plain sasl work? all i could find was http://www.rfc-base.org/txt/rfc-4616.txt < 1455753086 956012 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get very good at writing brainfuck before next Wednesday (the 24th) < 1455753143 911039 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1455753311 75793 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. what is sasl? < 1455753313 174292 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my ego dictates I must be the best at esoteric programming in my entire university and there is a brainfuck competition < 1455753329 599807 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. that is perfectly reasonable. < 1455753370 343343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: show them what's what by inventing a derivative and writing your program in that hth < 1455753383 738226 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I am not sure that would go down well < 1455753418 677503 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: authentication thingy < 1455753420 551054 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a befunge interpreter in brainfuck and emulate fungot? < 1455753433 87766 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: bleh. can't help you :/ < 1455753443 951147 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1455753464 505549 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if fungot was on amazon, it needs sasl now to connect to freenode