< 1456012993 829429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the 04r08a09i11n12b13o04w08s? < 1456013025 540273 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-57-201.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1456013507 84173 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should put together the Skills of Eso and start towards developing the language a strong AI will be implemented in < 1456013556 113276 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456013610 389623 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :develop a strong enough ai first, which will then build the language < 1456013625 178552 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Yes, that works too xD < 1456013638 438634 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm thinking some LISP, some PROLOG, and some Haskell, what do you think? < 1456013644 434734 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no ai < 1456013823 991013 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1456014277 762271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: We can try I suppose, although am not sure quite how either, I also don't know much about AI < 1456014507 489868 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-209-151.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456014582 156554 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456014681 220157 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like an AI would probably just end up with infinite memory and a really long case statement < 1456014718 379912 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will bring a new meaning to the term "exception handling" < 1456015076 981177 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an AI < 1456015315 823075 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AI can really be a bunch of different things. < 1456015384 324681 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A division I think is fairly significant is the one ebtween AIs that are meant to act as autonomous systems and those that just react to queries. < 1456015385 783173 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :AI _is_ an infinite Number of Things at the same Time. < 1456015395 529907 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the same Multiverses, _and/or_ in another ones. < 1456015396 188707 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :B-) < 1456015401 518333 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holism my Backside. ;) < 1456015410 762198 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are all one big amorph Mass. < 1456015410 920081 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WIth the latter being sort of in between being artificial intelligence and intelligence amplification. < 1456015438 751212 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like we're animorphs. < 1456015449 413038 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION heard another Theory that states a very advanced AI would just watch Porn the whole Days and/or Nights. ;) < 1456015460 306031 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1456015479 31541 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's made to work like a human brain but better at multitasking, then yes. < 1456015504 941967 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would watch porn all the time while doing anything else it's up to. < 1456015531 959332 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I'm so happy to hear that! If there are more characters you want, please suggest them. < 1456015566 831212 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Trump is winning in SC! < 1456015571 566153 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will do. :) < 1456015596 529335 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it's time to move up the timetable on the Operate Till Sverige < 1456015599 112589 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT : < 1456015601 267110 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Operation < 1456015615 714943 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so more episodes of the Donald Trump Show are imminent < 1456016147 822301 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Bush has less than 10%. Jeb! is such a loser < 1456016449 278601 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's hard to get popular when an album inspired by the dissilusionment from the war your dad started was able to be such a smash hit. < 1456016482 262743 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is he really doing anything to distance himself from his dad and grampa? < 1456016505 939000 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :his brother, not his dad < 1456016509 898532 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1456016517 591253 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that shows how much I know about anyone ever. < 1456016539 310468 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But similar question, is he really doing anything to distance himself from his brother and dad? < 1456016546 123570 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1456016568 59959 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was, then he stopped on the basis that South Carolina supported his family < 1456016573 491510 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I stand by "Upside for Jeb Bush as pesident: Potentially another sweet Green Day album". < 1456016578 582023 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that isn't panning out < 1456016645 539976 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how South Carolina would be mroe about family than the rest of the country. < 1456016694 968109 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well also, both George Bush first and second won in SC < 1456016719 854522 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: um, it might be a local proble, but I don't see the changes in your font, only in the sample page < 1456016736 12277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: are you sure you've uploaded the new font to the webserver correctly? < 1456016753 500047 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, hold on < 1456016761 415569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh wait, < 1456016768 828149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with more reloading the modified font now loads < 1456016770 395363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1456016828 179046 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see that you haven't changed the serbian I and J, but changed that strange cyrillic letter that appears in rare languages, without turning it to green. < 1456016875 632802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and that you've added lowercase gothic, only the lowercase gothic v (𝔳) shows up as taking two character cells' width. < 1456016977 85184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also see the new blackboard bold letters and digits. Some of them look somewhat ugly. They might be ugly with the goal to match the rest of your font, I don't know. < 1456016980 653482 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: where does cuneiform fit in your plans < 1456016984 857325 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can apparently make hashtags with it < 1456017031 392266 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: which ones? < 1456017056 2785 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix the v < 1456017085 631855 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the best algorithm for computer division? < 1456017096 621819 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly not long division, because that's digit-by-digit < 1456017114 338281 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an algorithm using bit shitfs < 1456017114 535362 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need speed < 1456017119 458997 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: OK < 1456017127 446967 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how do you define "best"? < 1456017136 203463 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: Simplest? < 1456017151 759677 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Unfortunately, I'm trying to do it on the peano axioms and pattern matching xD < 1456017152 191470 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1456017163 303667 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So unless there are peano bit shifts... < 1456017170 459299 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, there are < 1456017212 236634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, on the sample page, the newlines in the section for gothic and blackboard bold are in really odd places < 1456017213 893590 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rsh(R, L, O) :- exp(2, L, I), mul(R, I, O). < 1456017315 11150 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that's lsh < 1456017332 92321 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it works though < 1456017336 830416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: take the double-struck E as an example. since this font is normally sans serif, I'd suggest that you don't put serifs in the blackboard bold either, except on the I. And if you do want serifs, at least make them smaller < 1456017361 22846 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1456017392 2547 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either omit one of the three pixels that is on the line that contains only the serif, not the horizontal line; or make the serifs not contain a visible hole at all, but consist of only one additional pixel below the two thick line) < 1456017502 766101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: next, for the double-struck G, since your normal G has a sharp corner where the horizontal middle line meets the vertical line, I'd say make the double-struck G look like that too. < 1456017628 193237 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1456017636 421155 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What do you use for designing this font, softwarewise? < 1456017648 872953 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fontforge < 1456017674 682921 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good, then :) < 1456017681 415341 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: for the double-struck I, I wonder if it would be better to fill the top and bottom pixel of the vertical hole, but that might make it uglier. I dunno. < 1456017697 833170 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :previously I used fontstruct.com < 1456017760 229222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: apart from that, the uppercase blackboard bold letters seem to be fine < 1456017795 580365 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't know why the lowercase doublestruck c has a shape different from your lowercase c < 1456017844 45976 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I might like to see the ~ lower down, but that's just because I've got it in my prompt and it looks goofy. :D Might just use a different character < 1456017847 280009 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and I wonder if you could improve the blackboard bold lowercase m by making it have a different shape from the lowercase m, just like how you did with the blackboard bold uppercase M and W < 1456017869 896022 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for the blackboard bold w < 1456017895 680973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, the blackboard bold lowercase letters are rarely used, so they might not be worth the bother < 1456017970 148799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the blackboard bold digits look well done though, except maybe you could lower the top of both sides of the lower ring < 1456017986 859449 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done in the sense that they look nice and consistent with the normla digits < 1456017989 764164 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: you could try a wiggly arrow? ↝ < 1456018007 455169 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that would work very nicely < 1456018008 511056 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1456018008 963565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although... < 1456018029 406957 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if perhaps you could improve the blackboard bold digit 1 by moving the vertical stem one pixel right < 1456018042 31830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that works < 1456018063 6990 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the lower bar is 8 pixels long < 1456018083 874635 :Treio!~Treio@87.244.233.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456018110 849158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I can't really give good feedback about how the gothic letters look, because I'm not used to seeing gothic letters, so I don't really know how they're supposed to look normally. < 1456018131 671339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, so I'm not sure it will work, but it might < 1456018186 246296 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah that works < 1456018340 87265 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1456018724 400570 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1456018732 854251 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do the peano axioms define division? < 1456019008 941078 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeb is dropping out! < 1456019071 377806 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he looks truly in the grips of despair < 1456019226 282796 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :his concession speech is utterly depressing.... < 1456019327 987480 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a - 0 = a, S(a) - S(b) = a - b, right? < 1456019349 257686 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Yes < 1456019419 546457 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Which candidate are you rooting for, and are you rooting for them out of self-interest (that is, you want them because the other will nuke your country to kingdom come) or because you want to see how far they'll take the crazy? < 1456019470 302963 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like Trump and Sanders to win the primaries, then I want Sanders to win the election. < 1456019505 297698 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1456019528 132300 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because I don't like stock traders < 1456019540 113360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Why not? < 1456019583 810694 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: If we say that 0 - a = 0, then 0/b = 0, a/b = a + ((a - b)/b), or am I missing something? < 1456019596 823593 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was 14, a stock trader divided by zero or something and somehow that ruined the whole economy and lost millions their jobs < 1456019620 803276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was that? < 1456019623 151992 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Let me try it < 1456019625 565868 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007 < 1456019642 167465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that was a stock trader? < 1456019664 237970 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of stock market person or company < 1456019693 308681 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is the system shouldn't be such that that can happen < 1456019708 763909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tell me more < 1456019720 464752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the problem with stock trading and how do you think it'll be fixed < 1456019758 755105 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Sanders will make it so that people who crash the market will pay for it rather than be given more monay < 1456019767 740832 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: It things 4/2 is 6 for some reason < 1456019771 611780 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check my code < 1456019774 11519 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Sorry, that should have been 0/b = 0, a/b = 1 + ((a - b)/b), an a was supposed to be a 1. < 1456019787 735977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1456019789 638973 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1456019799 956954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why should the people who crash the market pay for it? < 1456019816 326809 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're responsible for their actions < 1456019828 641103 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: There, that works < 1456019833 235230 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for 4/2 < 1456019866 3466 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Ah, but it freezes for 5/2 < 1456019867 3843 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take an action that causes 1 million people to lose their jobs, then you have to be punished for that action < 1456019894 317389 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you invent a cheap, easily produced robot that makes a million people redundant? < 1456019898 770757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people who crash the market take those actions? < 1456019902 900189 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1456019918 524254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the market was way overvalued, and then it crashed to a reasonable level? < 1456019947 626787 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Does 0 - a = 0 hold? < 1456019948 266688 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then whoever helped to create the bubble should also be punished < 1456019954 875572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyway how do you think people would be made to pay for it? < 1456019958 226797 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Right, no, it doesn't < 1456019965 831968 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a tax on speculation < 1456019985 70382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so your problem is with speculation? < 1456019989 549460 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly adding "abuse of the stock market" as a criminal offence < 1456020001 838097 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: x=3. Close enough. < 1456020011 931058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :abuse of the stock market is already a criminal offense < 1456020026 496930 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my problem is that somehow some people playing with numbers on computers, caused millions of people to suffer < 1456020064 98126 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: So your problem is with programmers? < 1456020066 138832 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished < 1456020074 98186 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Particularly those at microsoft? < 1456020077 845768 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe... < 1456020110 425425 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished < 1456020117 886758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1456020128 628655 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished < 1456020132 271010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1268) <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished < 1456020157 755596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the underlying idea that the stock market causes all sorts of problems and doesn't provide value, or sufficient value, to the world? < 1456020168 906337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or certain types of participants in the stock market do? < 1456020220 898634 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to mostly provide value to those who are in it < 1456020233 34239 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than to the people < 1456020281 781215 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when it crashed, the stock people were given money by the government, instead of those who lost their jobs being given money < 1456020301 399348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which stock people? < 1456020313 584075 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some banks or something < 1456020330 57687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you're even thinking of stocks? < 1456020330 215671 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said I don't know the details, I was 14. < 1456020352 594249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to, i don't know, mortgages, or insurance, or something? < 1456020357 992447 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they were called derivtives < 1456020440 965100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to be willfully ignorant about these things to some degree :'( < 1456020517 690754 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think it was functors hth < 1456020575 211430 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to see a story that is based on if obscure math WAS reality < 1456020585 671974 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you can banach tarski things with a sharp knife < 1456020637 383800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knives don't work that way. < 1456020658 655840 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much. the financial markets or whatever, seem to trade in imaginary things like stocks or derivatives or something, and then somehow that caused huge numbers of people who were entirely unconnected with the stock market, to suffer hardship, while many stock people continued to get paid >$100000 a year < 1456020682 45742 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not in /this/ universe < 1456020709 384900 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willfully ignorant because I have no wish to be connected to such an evil-sounding system < 1456020746 94854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: there are certainly issues with these things, but they also solve actual problems < 1456020849 505630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people probably get paid too much money for all sorts of financial things (of which stock trading is only a small part), but they probably shouldn't get paid $0 for it, at least unless you do things in a drastically different system < 1456020860 535526 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they shouldn't get paid for is doing bad things < 1456020870 35293 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: exactly < 1456020883 825670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. I think in general bad things are bad. < 1456020913 650669 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Safe bet < 1456020917 344556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you have to understand what they are if you want to regulate them effectively. < 1456020935 83169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway software people and all sorts of other people also continued to get paid >$100000 a year < 1456020941 946623 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want sanders because I'm certain that if the crash happened under him, he'd give help to those cast into poverty by the event, rather than to richbanks < 1456020962 776462 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a whole web of problems with law enforcement in the financial sector < 1456020976 174226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not sure what the connection between stock trading and the problems you're talking about is < 1456020987 869512 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bailouts are also a problem < 1456021005 189840 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, insider trading? < 1456021023 763821 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there were no bailouts, then the banks would be more careful to not crash the market. < 1456021041 756618 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well don't stock traders work for these banks? < 1456021049 959957 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it's not just banks < 1456021077 398599 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's any industry that can convince the government it's so important that the government should pay it money when it loses money < 1456021084 190466 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :banks actually qualify for that < 1456021090 869784 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like manufacturing don't < 1456021110 797325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: anyway my job involves writing software that trades stocks < 1456021113 760719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think i should do < 1456021132 626818 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it so it doesn't make trades that crash the market? < 1456021152 962587 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: accept that you're irredeemably evil < 1456021169 70164 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1456021174 69937 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it so it crashes the market more < 1456021199 81118 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1456021235 10437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: if you convince me that something i'm doing is irredeemably evil then i'll stop doing it < 1456021268 480455 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: automated stock trading software crashing the market is barely a concern < 1456021274 29307 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :such crashes tend to be very short-lived < 1456021300 99180 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only people losing money are the short-term traders... who you characterize as bad < 1456021314 578420 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456021336 343182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think everyone has been characterized as bad by now < 1456021342 899942 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i dunno, maybe write it so it doesn't allow bubbles to form? < 1456021376 186289 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubbles have nothing to do with the software < 1456021390 823144 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they happen even if it's all humans < 1456021420 922565 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe software can help prevent humans from creating bubbles? < 1456021460 403535 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be pretty cool macroeconomics; too bad it doesn't exist < 1456021601 675559 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :microeconomics is the study of financial systems that we understand really well but never actually happen. Macroeconomics is the study of financial systems that are impossible to understand but that happen all the goddamned time < 1456021627 856930 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDEA < 1456021638 770704 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should start making EsO' Reilly books < 1456021689 34527 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1456021700 769567 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No really < 1456021713 164552 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: What should the mascot for "Brainfuck & Derivatives" be? < 1456021724 945597 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking an invasive species of some sort < 1456021728 612740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derivatives? probably the devil < 1456021735 882946 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Mine is better < 1456021738 822998 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: cow < 1456021743 138194 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1456021745 127127 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :orangutan < 1456021754 624009 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Though we'll only cover major derivatives with something useful to offer for programmers < 1456021772 707190 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Perhaps xD < 1456021795 515588 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a microscope photo of a mad cow virus < 1456021805 206199 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Sure < 1456021811 701944 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: becaues of Ook! specifically < 1456021928 60215 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes, of course < 1456021938 450738 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I wasn't going to include Ook! in the book though < 1456021945 850850 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it isn't a particularly useful derivative < 1456021957 386525 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1456021974 7503 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/hdV6uVd.jpg < 1456022174 466149 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456022380 470945 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1456022503 416872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/10/17/163038597/ask-a-banker-whats-a-derivative < 1456022554 69376 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1456023085 760140 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so now I know what a derivative is (a bet on the price of something, without actually buying that thing). < 1456023150 691076 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thet didn't explain why people who weren't connected to the financial markets started losing their jobs and homes? < 1456023452 987174 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in the 2008 crisis? < 1456023456 292200 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1456023470 563785 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much to do with derivatives < 1456023477 8903 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to do with loan reselling < 1456023480 395499 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly mortgages < 1456023490 582240 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other big ticket bad debt < 1456023494 742141 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take out a mortgage with a bank, the bank can resell its part of the mortgage < 1456023518 997713 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of reasons it might do this; it might be a hedge, or it might be to align mortgages with loans, or any number of other reasons < 1456023541 648521 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but importantly, they're sometimes resold as investments < 1456023561 992552 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the bank sells my mortgage, that means I suddenly owe someone else money instead of the bank? < 1456023564 898989 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1456023593 624532 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bank keeps taking the payments and passing them along for you so that you don't have to do anything different, but legally someone else holds the debt < 1456023601 639834 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*credit < 1456023608 723124 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's likely transparent to you, since debt is basically intangible < 1456023614 737696 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1456023647 531124 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :part 2 of the puzzle is "subprime" mortgages, which is basically shitty mortgages that are not high likelihood to get repayed < 1456023666 339340 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :banks might agree to them on a risk, or because they're required to by regulation, and will usually charge correspondingly high rates < 1456023670 970018 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the people are poor? < 1456023676 552883 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually < 1456023685 926792 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they aren't exactly poor but are buying a house way out of their income range < 1456023712 604138 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that buying the debt is risky, since the money may never come < 1456023757 988395 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :part 3 is that the subprime mortgages were bundled together with other forms of debt, and the ratings agencies that basically say how likely a debt is to go bad reported the packages as much better than they actually were < 1456023763 118104 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the high rates made them attractive, of course < 1456023768 35674 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which BF derivatives add significant features worthy of being featured in the book? < 1456023799 827190 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456023823 741194 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically there was this shell game going on. I don't know enough to say whether it was driven by malice or incompetence, but the net effect was that a lot of companies that had nothing to do with the financial sector found themselves owed money by people who couldn't pay their mortages < 1456023824 225773 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so it sounds like the ratings agencies were responsible as well < 1456023828 743352 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1456023848 253290 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully we can rough them up too < 1456023858 9051 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't know if they were relying on incorrect information and doing poor due diligence, or were the ones making the principal mistake < 1456023924 528705 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the mortgages started going bad, creditors started asking "why's my investment not paying out? It was supposed to be safe!" Eventually people caught on that these bad mortgages had snuck into the markets, and then everyone looked at the investments' balance sheets again < 1456023963 691338 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the resulting panic was basically the genesis of the crisis < 1456023988 595679 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Consumers (home buyers, etc.) also played a role, by taking on unsustainable debts based on incomplete information. It was basically a feedback loop < 1456023999 785023 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what turned it into a bubble. < 1456024032 672613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that the people losing money here are the investors, not the borrowers < 1456024123 85729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course a lot of people lost all sorts of things indirectly) < 1456024412 253007 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the indirect people that I'm mad about, not the investors or even the home buyers < 1456024418 925922 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if a hypergraph FSM is any more powerful than a traditional FSM < 1456024433 410226 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who had literally nothing to do with the seminal event < 1456024441 704668 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1) Figure out How the Hell a hypergraph FSM works < 1456024451 708898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: where do stock trading people come into it? < 1456024471 907970 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :derivatives are basically a type of stock or whatever < 1456024486 109800 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the term of art is instrument < 1456024491 698176 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1456024502 570881 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sutre < 1456024523 735581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stocks are parts of companies < 1456024638 489952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are a lot of legitimate arguments to make about all these things. you should make some of them < 1456024736 987029 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm qualified. but the point is, I think Sanders will do stuff to make sure innocent, ordinary people are not victimized by these financial instrument crashes, whereas I don't think hillary will do anything to prevent that. < 1456024771 310639 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jumps off wall street and on to the topic platform < 1456024775 506470 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all... < 1456024823 509425 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would suggest you become significantly more familiar with how the financial system works. :) < 1456024870 104995 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not needed if I just stay the heck away from anything that seems risky < 1456024911 967750 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How WOULD a hyperfsm work? Perhaps concurrency? < 1456024918 243922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's p. important given how much it influences your world < 1456024936 872038 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doens't work with how my idea of a hyper-digraph works... < 1456024971 392815 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what if I only buy government bonds < 1456025024 276773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should buy government bonds at negative interest rates < 1456025026 531309 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in stable, civilized countries, that is) < 1456025083 663223 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I get an interest rate guaranteed to be exactly the rate of inflation? < 1456025106 552952 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, how do I do that < 1456025121 285307 :jaboja!~jaboja@emc161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456025121 443195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1456025154 369258 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a simple solution to all of this and it's bitcoin < 1456025160 565524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1456025163 132133 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: What about titcoin? < 1456025174 37560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin is guaranteed to always go up < 1456025189 68390 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :use both and you can do 6 transactions per second rather than 3! < 1456025233 585552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: if you want it in CAD, ask your government, i guess < 1456025278 116124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would you buy bonds? < 1456025289 99288 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to keep my money safe < 1456025356 545774 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1456025384 217996 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now, I am just keeping all of my money in my checking account < 1456025401 190760 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is affected by inflation < 1456025422 494941 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep all of my excess cash in an ETF < 1456025437 819596 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I let robots deal with it < 1456025454 921739 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1456025481 910552 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a SEP with the robots, too < 1456025490 912198 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My future is literally in the hands of AI < 1456025509 788642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which robots? < 1456025568 263245 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Betterment, at the moment. I was trying to decide between them and Vanguard, but I liked the service charges on Betterment more < 1456025569 82722 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, so... use a savings account? < 1456025592 492544 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Any money you have in a bank is being invested and reinvested behind your back, anyway < 1456025597 275901 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just how banks work < 1456025621 473561 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And Betterment uses a bunch of Vanguard funds, anyway, so < 1456025630 563140 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456025636 769407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Service charges? < 1456025684 555307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Sure, but having a bank owe you money is a very different risk profile from whatever the bank is investing in. < 1456025716 546399 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I guess technically I have several thousand dollars in yen as well (leftover from my trip to Japan) < 1456025730 34441 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 2000 < 1456025745 795855 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a jar < 1456025760 721294 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what they charge me to handle my money. With an auto-deposit, it drops to like .35%/mo of what I have with them < 1456025770 437468 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even if the whole of canada goes crap, I'll still have yen < 1456025778 911412 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until I hit 10k, then it goes to 0.25% < 1456025793 742102 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: This is true < 1456025803 254502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.25%/*month*? < 1456025824 754706 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.25% of assets per month < 1456025830 60519 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize I wrote that really weirdly < 1456025833 59652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so you're speculating on currency on the side? < 1456025835 979153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 3%/year? < 1456025843 233218 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arbitrage! < 1456025847 160403 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1456025853 931032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :3%/year is ridiculous. < 1456025854 184851 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: unintentionally I guess < 1456025891 180558 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I got a free couple of months on referrals, too. < 1456025908 587609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure you don't mean 0.35%/year? < 1456025921 655687 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, yes, that is what I mean < 1456025930 116948 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread it < 1456025933 873620 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes much more sense < 1456025936 295472 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically kept taking money out to buy stuff in Japan and when I came home I had a lot left over < 1456025989 823628 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm lemme check the other jars < 1456026018 685911 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I also have some mexican pesos and euros < 1456026034 643045 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of british punds < 1456026070 800531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I'm not sure what it's putting your money in, but it sounds like more than a typical Vanguard thing would charge. < 1456026082 471014 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1456026091 742342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in theory they make some money on capital losses too? < 1456026142 906284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how much of an advantage you get from that in practice. < 1456026150 844477 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think so. I could look up a fee breakdown. < 1456026219 72032 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main selling point was the nonexistent minimum investment. Wanted to square my taxes away before I started dumping cash into it < 1456026230 184370 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being a 1099 is annoying < 1456026307 979662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Vanguard's target retirement funds have a $1000 minimum? I don't know what sorts of goal you have for the money. < 1456026417 471769 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've got a rainy day fund I'm building up to 10k so I can take a couple of months off and look for a new job, then a SEP so I've got something to stick excess money into each month < 1456026430 489264 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I can't believe schwartznegger has been reduced to appearing in ads for mobile games < 1456026431 353532 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a goal of retiring someday :D < 1456026469 931829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep the money in my desk < 1456026482 418428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38's system is the best < 1456026486 813346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :After Bitcoin, I mean. < 1456026508 452150 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely the safest, as long as you have it in a fire-resistant form < 1456026519 900173 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold is fire-resistant < 1456026549 296885 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could keep it in an asbestos suitcase < 1456026561 804223 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also not good at keeping its value < 1456026599 829338 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends how much time he spends destroying or otherwise nullifying other people's gold < 1456026635 179204 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, more prosaically, how many idiots want to buy gold so as to be free from the evil shackles of government < 1456026647 305995 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a neutron gun to transmute gold into mercury < 1456026796 981825 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural gold is Au-197. you add a neutron to make Au-198, which β-decays into Hg-198 < 1456026815 870049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer my guns containing no neutrons < 1456026858 803291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: O, that's how it works. I didn't know that; now I can know < 1456026871 651248 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be itneresting. < 1456026892 383961 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like studying nuclear equations < 1456026897 683339 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, but do you know? < 1456026899 538717 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A gun which uses only elements that arestable without neutrons. < 1456026921 825900 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, have you heard of tantalum-180m < 1456026922 31143 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that's only hydrogen < 1456026930 391902 :Reece`!~nothing@host-92-13-209-151.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1456026953 836135 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THere's also helim, I think? < 1456026965 319270 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, \oren\, any plans to support powerline characters in your font? I don't know how difficult that would be < 1456027002 769165 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helium is He-4,2 < 1456027016 39762 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 2 neutrons and 2 protons < 1456027034 887131 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :powerline characters? < 1456027059 549710 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, diproton is actually very unstable. < 1456027072 449918 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better strengthern that strong force I guess. < 1456027080 612762 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: https://github.com/powerline/fonts < 1456027104 122261 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ok I'll look at that < 1456027113 574263 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the process cause untold side-affects. < 1456027141 169036 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I might just be able to patch the font with the tool they use, I just don't know if it'll stomp your glyphs :) < 1456027144 374048 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list of code points and appearances somewhere < 1456027170 314060 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's less than like 50, I'll add them < 1456027182 571052 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see what I can find < 1456027373 403185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bodyfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46423&oldid=39175 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456027419 504015 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1456027515 961941 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: https://github.com/powerline/fontpatcher < 1456027528 535345 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the script that's used to patch other fonts, evidently < 1456027555 268039 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I can just read the powerline symbol font with fontforge. < 1456027607 246146 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 6 characters in the font < 1456027617 644243 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add them straight away < 1456027622 525481 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat :) < 1456027625 517412 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1456027705 358397 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg bodyfuck < 1456027716 353112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Absurd Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46424&oldid=30946 5* 03MDude 5* (+74) 10 < 1456027731 485872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TwoDucks14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46425&oldid=36364 5* 03MDude 5* (+38) 10 < 1456028152 588056 :earendel!~anuska@176.4.138.111 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1456028925 827242 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-228-45.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456029224 532887 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, generallyy if you keep hitting any given element with neutrons it tends to either fission or move toward lead < 1456029234 713648 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how big it is < 1456029255 390962 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lead is not a very useful element < 1456029303 76558 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends how much radiation you're exposed to in your day to day < 1456029319 591934 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :true :) < 1456029337 319098 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold is almost as good as lead for shielding < 1456029366 919468 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gold is shiny, so it is much more expensive < 1456029386 850426 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gold is also much more *rare* than lead. < 1456029446 663070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhiq < 1456029629 176163 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, but comparatively rarer but less shiny elements like iridium aren';t worth as much < 1456029656 323608 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Do you have to set the newly added characters green manually, or have you got a script that marks characters new? < 1456029703 209680 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a manual page (fontdemo) where I do everything manually, and an automatic page. < 1456029791 49233 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456029798 346605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have PortAudio library installed on my computer, the package manager says there are conflicts if the development files are to be installed. < 1456029820 904176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07And then14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46426&oldid=41170 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456029885 481961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Blackberry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46427&oldid=44271 5* 03MDude 5* (+26) 10 < 1456029928 282859 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I be marking these as minor edits? < 1456029940 309928 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456029985 551684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bfstack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46428&oldid=45775 5* 03MDude 5* (+61) 10 < 1456029988 96456 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok,  < 1456029991 166535 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUP < 1456030002 583530 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright then. < 1456030014 324352 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, works for me, too :) < 1456030016 135925 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1456030034 261145 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's not what you were answering. < 1456030058 287887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also depends on the package for the C++ bindings, and I do not need C++ bindings. < 1456030138 127690 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Andrew%27s_Programming_Language Is this a declarative lanugage? < 1456030163 175642 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I updated the font demo, so you should be able to download the new version < 1456030177 430373 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if havent' already I mean < 1456030183 533349 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going through the list on uncategorized pages and seeing what I can put in a category easily. < 1456030210 46618 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow here's the Br section. < 1456030219 917170 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what category I'll be expanding the most tonight? < 1456030238 572615 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, already got it. Thanks. :) I think this is about the largest glyph coverage I've ever seen in a font < 1456030247 167075 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving Pragmata a run for its money < 1456030260 786134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainDuino14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46429&oldid=25379 5* 03MDude 5* (+35) 10 < 1456030285 441622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46430&oldid=40558 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456030314 540648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BrainfuckX14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46431&oldid=45421 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456030314 698846 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my original goal was to be "like gnu unifont, but not crap-ugly, with a consistent style" < 1456030330 133978 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i like brainflow < 1456030343 747214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Sharp14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46432&oldid=46371 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456030383 726973 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe  should go all the way to the bottom of the character cell? < 1456030408 618643 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah I'll do that next time < 1456030410 369147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck derivatives14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46433&oldid=41539 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456030434 172017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bukkake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46434&oldid=39601 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456030495 377089 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456030495 535048 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456030525 775830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BitZ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46435&oldid=40930 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10 < 1456030539 177741 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Also, I get these little borders at the corners, but I don't know if that's the font or just me < 1456030540 783158 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: write a bot < 1456030542 197593 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/LXbJr5g.png < 1456030574 672341 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might just be the plugin, so if it looks unfamiliar, I wouldn't worry about it < 1456030590 993103 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be good for me to actually learn netcode. < 1456030654 728522 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's my nbsp character which has corners < 1456030684 117567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Disney queue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46436&oldid=44371 5* 03MDude 5* (+26) 10 < 1456030712 923280 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea why a monospaced font would need to use nbsp instead of space < 1456030742 950651 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because even using that font, a browser migth discard the additional spaces. < 1456030748 502096 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that's how html works. < 1456030763 43013 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want the space to actually show up, you need to use
< 1456030768 542974 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456030769 594217 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host
< 1456030769 752300 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456030778 998246 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use non-breaking spaces.
< 1456030809 38723 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you might want to use in cases where you can't actually use html tags, like on a bullitin board.
< 1456030840 230633 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about powerline
< 1456030846 952352 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that need nbsp?
< 1456030871 754646 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's so the status bar doesn't break when you resize the terminal, probably
< 1456030881 774173 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456030893 603991 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically it's airline, but v0v
< 1456030900 745970 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it would, the status bar on tmux doesn't break after all
< 1456030900 944149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Call stack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46437&oldid=46073 5* 03MDude 5* (+40) 10
< 1456030907 217750 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True
< 1456030916 809055 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a setting to make it use some other character
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< 1456030977 539707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DUCK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46438&oldid=45835 5* 03MDude 5* (+29) 10
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< 1456031017 186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eitherf*ck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46439&oldid=21649 5* 03MDude 5* (+36) 10
< 1456031127 403512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Element14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46440&oldid=42722 5* 03MDude 5* (+26) 10
< 1456031234 842281 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod
< 1456031319 210200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://vimeo.com/11976683  why does his interpreter enter that [-] loop?
< 1456031326 873341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric units of information14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46441&oldid=46326 5* 03MDude 5* (+40) 10
< 1456031434 514063 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it seems there's an extraneous separate page for Funge-98
< 1456031435 431726 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Funge-98
< 1456031518 201402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GodScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46442&oldid=14400 5* 03MDude 5* (+24) 10
< 1456031581 680511 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++>++<[->+<]>>++++++[>++++++++<-][-]<[->+<]>[->+<]>.       his interpreter spends from 3:39 to 4:39 on that [-] that shouldn't even be entered in the first place
< 1456031581 838277 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4
< 1456031596 374025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GodScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46443&oldid=46442 5* 03MDude 5* (-1) 10
< 1456031604 719445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out how to resolve the conflicts, which is by first telling it which version of "libjack-dev" to use, before selecting the main package I want to install.
< 1456031693 513965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gulf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46444&oldid=43382 5* 03MDude 5* (+30) 10
< 1456031751 25099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hyperfunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46445&oldid=44699 5* 03MDude 5* (+40) 10
< 1456031815 770810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DUCK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46446&oldid=46438 5* 03MDude 5* (+0) 10capitalization typo
< 1456031870 97571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Greentext14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46447&oldid=45368 5* 03MDude 5* (+23) 10
< 1456031978 931072 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I think that's enough for tonight.
< 1456032028 147628 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get to bed, and I'm sure HackEgo could sue a break by now.
< 1456032033 569291 :MDude!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream
< 1456032038 971398 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1456032075 629789 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I found it. I copied a few lines from someone else's airline config and they set the spacer to be a nbsp. Derp
< 1456032094 781023 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks great, now :)
< 1456032319 984518 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1456032470 190185 :MDream!~fyrc@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Linguistic_Calculus this one looks pretty nice
< 1456032601 287145 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg I misspelled "technical" in my fontdemo, how long has that been there?!
< 1456032815 253316 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe tomorrow I'll add emoji
< 1456032823 700789 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few of them anyway
< 1456032917 207229 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it helps your choices, I use ❤️  and 💔 to indicate clean and dirty status on git repos
< 1456032953 939171 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 💔
< 1456032976 452265 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F494 BROKEN HEART \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 94  UTF-16BE: d83ddc94  Decimal: 💔 \ 💔 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
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< 1456037413 22810 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody else here think there needs to be a new prolog? One better than the current one?
< 1456037422 350960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1456037429 836837 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current Prolog is good, but a bit outdated and with some strange syntax rules
< 1456037436 320316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you can try to write about improvement if you want to
< 1456037451 745683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What things are wrong with Prolog?
< 1456037509 678290 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Just seems a bit... old
< 1456037545 909136 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The biggest one is that it seems to brute force solutions to problems, which is definitely necessary in some cases, but HORRIBLY inefficient
< 1456037593 49378 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For example, if you tell it X is 5-3 (with many syntaxes), it will check every values from 0 to infinity to see if it satisfies 5-3
< 1456037598 842103 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears
< 1456037605 679743 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't so bad, but factorial is /atrocious/
< 1456037609 871383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes it seem it could be improved, although there may need to be some extra commands to control it if it is necessary to control it for some reason
< 1456037620 702459 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, probably
< 1456037632 492029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But being old isn't a thing wrong with it.
< 1456037636 826582 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably also make it more suitable for GUI
< 1456037643 167690 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, it isn't of course
< 1456037651 637131 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISP is old, and, well, LISP is god
< 1456037692 715197 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Think I should do static typing like Haskell?
< 1456037696 159442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not see why Prolog needs to be made more suitable for GUI, if instead you can add on a GUI library if you want GUI, isn't it?
< 1456037723 703307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably yes you should do static typing like Haskell, although I don't really know Prolog enough to answer this question properly.
< 1456037735 573923 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the only GUI library I can find- called XPCE- comes with the disclaimer that it's ACTUALLY a completely unrelated language that does OO
< 1456037746 46228 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really PROLOG, it just looks like it
< 1456037752 748177 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at it, and it's /awful/
< 1456037774 638699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That problem with GUI library yes does need fixed, by writing a proper one for this new kind of Prolog
< 1456037789 829619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not so much modernizing prolog as I am taking the concepts of prolog and making a new one
< 1456037804 533880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can make up a new one
< 1456037807 56206 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Interestingly, if I do haskelly typing the types will be logic too 0.o
< 1456037817 116779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1456037845 222966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean you can use Prolog commands on the types too?
< 1456037853 315295 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Probably :)
< 1456037861 719106 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Though I'll probably be keeping the current predicate syntax with parenthesis, instead of moving to haskelly currying notation
< 1456037871 45025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK
< 1456037882 364680 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Seems kind of necessary to preserve the spirit of prolog
< 1456037889 236628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1456037925 7014 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm considering anonymous horn clauses, but that might be a bit of a halting problem
< 1456037966 156457 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. humansAreAllMortal :- (human(X) :- mortal(X))
< 1456038062 313903 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Should I call it Epilog? xD
< 1456038090 650128 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. That isn't taken yet.
< 1456038202 552270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what form
< 1456038204 446140 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1456038261 595013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used the format like the /1 used in Prolog also in the documentation of SQL extensions actually
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< 1456038852 429137 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Was that a question for me?
< 1456038873 865612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1456038881 536102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Sorry, what was the question about?
< 1456038936 546896 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the advantage of anonymous horn clauses
< 1456038961 762494 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not sure yet xD. They could be used for checking if certain rules are true, I suppose?
< 1456039068 659813 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are aware that a -> b is equivalent to ~a or b?
< 1456039101 478787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: now explain par twh
< 1456039135 916677 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~a is actually not that easy to do, but still possible)
< 1456039220 821725 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: OK then
< 1456039287 510410 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm not sure PROLOG allows for ~a or b
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< 1456054854 293666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to figure out the right place to store ordinary bread. Where I stored it until now, it gets moldy too fast, presumably because it got wet and couldn't dry fast enough.
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< 1456055138 838392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I shouldn't put them in plastic bag, at least not for more than a day or two. I'll have to use a linen bag, replaced with a washed one every week or two weeks, to contain the breads.
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< 1456055906 49803 :ammar2!admin@52.4.212.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone seen this language before? apparently its tape based, might be a BF extension/derivative https://gist.github.com/ammaraskar/c19500590e1f8eedc62e
< 1456057616 436471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tape
< 1456057634 529272 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tape? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456057640 200256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imagine
< 1456057641 316944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456057721 120409 :ammar2!admin@52.4.212.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tape/cell
< 1456057784 559914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Imagine was the only song not interrupted after two stanzas on the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympic Games, a calm moment in an otherwise chaotic rush through fifty pop songs.
< 1456057790 797846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'imagine': Imagine was the only song not interrupted after two stanzas on the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympic Games, a calm moment in an otherwise chaotic rush through fifty pop songs.
< 1456058135 759098 :ammar2!admin@52.4.212.228 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1456058387 4211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? socks
< 1456058388 590931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :socks? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058388 748896 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sock
< 1456058389 751752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sock? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058491 512121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn sock Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058492 446368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456058497 16138 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn sock/Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058499 684944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «sock»
< 1456058502 10765 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn socks/Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058504 509044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «socks»
< 1456058507 16893 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? socks
< 1456058509 101170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Socks are alien larvas planning to take over Earth. They started to teleport into Earthly washing machines through miniature wormholes. The invasion is currently halted, because after 4 billion larvas, they ran out of address space. They are also a protocol for proxying TCP connections.
< 1456058609 535748 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? narsil
< 1456058610 294830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :narsil? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058612 184178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring
< 1456058613 117586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them.
< 1456058616 956984 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? one ring
< 1456058617 940285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one ring? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058627 570426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rhenium
< 1456058628 306138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhenium? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058636 325244 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1456058701 205488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring. 
< 1456058703 419404 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rhenium': Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring.
< 1456058809 149263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn one ring/One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
< 1456058811 680822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «one ring»
< 1456058838 594670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? igramul
< 1456058840 97000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :igramul? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058840 859483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ygramul
< 1456058841 658170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ygramul? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058863 561725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? earthquaker
< 1456058864 411172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earthquaker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456058864 934762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? earthquake
< 1456058865 860914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earthquake? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456058869 993011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? earth-quaker
< 1456058870 931385 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth-quaker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059307 657195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -iname *fire* -o -iname *earth* -o -iname *water* -o -iname *air*
< 1456059308 644452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/holy water \ wisdom/real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download \ wisdom/water \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ wisdom/firefly
< 1456059314 48422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? water
< 1456059314 922527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water is a squishy substance that creeps along the floor and can suddenly fall from the heavens.
< 1456059403 470725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? napernyő
< 1456059404 339987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :napernyő? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059496 804019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vector
< 1456059497 493348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059498 368700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? diadal
< 1456059499 161431 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diadal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456059526 78848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bread market here is vastly different from the one back in Finland, which is one of the things I miss. (Approximately nobody's selling proper rye bread, or Karelian pasties -- which I count in the bread category, even though it's arguable -- at any reasonable price.)
< 1456059560 252602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, Hungary used to be about the best place to be if you like bread
< 1456059579 332606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, if you like to buy ready to eat bread at least, as opposed to making your own bread
< 1456059607 400064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. My household is very much a bread importer.
< 1456059627 154881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foodwise, I think bread and candy are the two main categories where moving here seems to have been a downgrade. (It's all very subjective, of course.)
< 1456059644 870482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :candy?
< 1456059645 727485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456059704 260310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No salty liquorice (salmiak, ammonium chloride) anywhere, for one thing.
< 1456059736 860163 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like salty candy.
< 1456059776 226455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People from countries where that's a thing (I think mostly Finland and Sweden) keep bringing it to work, for the surprise/amusement factor, but too rarely.
< 1456059846 798287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried some in Sweden, when it was sold among normal sweet candy. It was between “eww, this doesn't taste good” and “pew, I can't even finish this stuff” depending on the type.
< 1456059867 620635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The large variety in sweet candy was great though.
< 1456060036 701993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I believe any sweet candy or chocolate or similar long-lasting foodstuff that's available in Europe and that Hungarian people would want to eat shows up in shops in Hungary eventually, so we might have the same variety here in some years.
< 1456060074 50870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can now buy so many kinds of chocolate here, that if you travel to somewhere and want to bring chocolate home as a souvenir, it's not so easy to find one that's unique enough and can't be find here.
< 1456060097 916999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk chocolate with rice is among what you can bring, but not for very long I think.
< 1456060146 201228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus I keep hearing myths of Milka dark chocolate, but I've never seen it in real life, so I'm not sure it really exists.
< 1456060164 52692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it can be bought on amazon. Then it _probably_ exists.
< 1456060196 505141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear I hear amazon.com is somewhat careful about not allowing to sell non-existant products.
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< 1456060273 475931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? palate
< 1456060275 463524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :palate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456060495 143707 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Palate is usually a metaphor for a person's perferences about food or drink.
< 1456060497 895863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'palate': Palate is usually a metaphor for a person's perferences about food or drink.
< 1456060670 398812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's another thing that's missing here: Fazer chocolate.
< 1456060795 842701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, I've brought some Fazer chocolate from Sweden. They're nice, I expect they might show up here soon, or at least some of it like the cream-filled chocolate stuff should. 
< 1456060831 464358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also brought Keks bars, which aren't bad, but I don't think that would be very popular here, because we have better alternatives when it comes to chocolate wafer bars.
< 1456060957 670457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus I brought some Fisherman's Friends sugarless candy, actually from the UK I believe, which at the point wasn't yet sold here, but now they are selling it in a few places; plus I brought that local hard candy too, called, um, what was its name?
< 1456061025 347782 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Läkerol.
< 1456061094 90609 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you have that in the UK.
< 1456061870 951213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen. You can get it in Finland.
< 1456062074 286127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a somewhat similar originally very Finnish (now actually part of the same conglomerate as Läkerol, after the Cloetta-Leaf merger) thing called Sisu, which we tend to call "Gifu", due to the old-style font they use in the packaging: http://www.sisulla.fi/fi/etusivu/
< 1456062112 415759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1456062331 140788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fisherman's friend
< 1456062332 836262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keks
< 1456062338 100963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fisherman's friend? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062338 531184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keks? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062339 231394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? läkerol
< 1456062340 657288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :läkerol? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062343 870727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? milka
< 1456062345 216015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :milka? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062346 25664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fazer
< 1456062346 805313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fazer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062347 535726 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? karl fazer
< 1456062349 417642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :karl fazer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1456062351 845463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lindt
< 1456062352 761415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1456062683 3398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom still has some catching-up until it beats Wikipedia in coverage. (Obviously the content quality level is already significantly higher. After all, *anyone* can edit Wikipedia.)
< 1456062768 976592 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one more chocolate brand I brought from Sweden that you can't buy here, but I don't recall what it was
< 1456062782 155942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't Finnish like Fazer
< 1456062784 347252 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456062831 55842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I got it:
< 1456062833 152489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marabou chocolate
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< 1456062912 384029 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: .hu?  Try an Ikea.
< 1456062951 476332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Riviera: yes, Ikea sells some strange foodstuffs you can't buy elsewhere
< 1456062969 826156 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sell Marabou chocolate in the ikeas here.
< 1456062994 934779 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hot dog party packs.
< 1456063014 675364 :Riviera!Riviera@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::10:b001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And. Hm. Furniture. 8)
< 1456063016 333284 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: do they sell lutefisk
< 1456063029 577735 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a curiosity
< 1456063042 78937 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a lutefisk?
< 1456063048 839128 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what they sell
< 1456063065 604433 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: fermented cod
< 1456063080 963386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been int he ikeas for a while, and I haven't examined the food part in detail
< 1456063110 942835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they sell some sort of crackers, as well as Swedish frozen meatballs, and the sauce and jam that goes with that.
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< 1456063987 817659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't think they do. We were in one of the UK Ikeas a while ago, and they have some conventional Swedish fishstuffs (pickled herring, gravlax) but not lutefisk.
< 1456064055 482016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it seems to be a seasonal Christmas thing in some places.
< 1456064203 370365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think lutefisk became more popular because of Dungeons of Dredmor (which I don't play any more because it's balanced terribly, but which some people like)
< 1456064209 560508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of its slogans is "lutefisk for the lutefisk god"
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< 1456064530 944462 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the UI of DCSS improved?
< 1456064555 553822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: yes but it's still frustratingly inconsistent
< 1456064577 319347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has some extraneous features that I keep triggering by mistake (such as cursor-driven menus)
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< 1456067225 262502 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :jim carrey is anti vax
< 1456067257 821501 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. eh?
< 1456067265 752752 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1456067279 422103 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he posted pics of autist kids blaming vaccines and their families told him to remove them
< 1456067283 955450 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/07/jim-carrey-apologises-tweet-child-photo-without-permssion-autism-vaccine
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< 1456069068 427186 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSFO
< 1456069068 735014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 211456Z 29003KT 10SM FEW160 SCT200 09/08 A3025 RMK AO2 SLP244 T00890078 53006 $
< 1456069078 775685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily
< 1456069276 975434 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.lamdu.org
< 1456069295 525469 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this idea scale well past simple examples like sum (1..1000) ?
< 1456069429 805775 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia.
< 1456069455 665787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. westcoasting?
< 1456069704 93930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds cold for KSFO.
< 1456069780 112331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it's quite early.
< 1456069842 50456 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL
< 1456069842 290241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 211520Z AUTO 24022KT 9999 OVC015 14/11 Q1009 NOSIG
< 1456069848 98671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL
< 1456069848 340522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 211524Z 23009KT 5SM -RA BR FEW009 SCT080 OVC090 14/13 A3013 RMK AO2 P0001 T01440128
< 1456069851 971658 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL
< 1456069852 213487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 211508Z 29008KT 3SM R24L/4500VP6000FT/U -SN FEW008 SCT014 OVC045 01/M01 A2990 RMK SF2SC2SC4 SLP127
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< 1456072593 717803 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TURBO CHICKEN
< 1456072805 778478 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all, I'm exploring the Bernays-Tarski axiom system and wondering how SK combinator logic would be affected if Axiom 2 of implicational propositional calculus would be replaced with hypothetical syllogism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicational_propositional_calculus#The_Bernays.E2.80.93Tarski_axiom_system
< 1456072823 711694 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, I am wonder how (if possible) you can create a combinator from (P->Q)->((Q->R)->(P->R)) akin to S. I'm new to propositional logic, so forwarding me in a direction of tools/resources would be enough to get me started.
< 1456073471 835402 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456073847 571152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The example given there is also using axiom 3 which is Peirce's law (call/cc).
< 1456074067 688618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your variant of SK system to including continuations?
< 1456074105 134718 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ zzo38 Thanks :)
< 1456074107 958122 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I was going to try and exclude Pierce's law
< 1456074158 287623 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how to prove / disprove this is possible, while still encoding constructive logic
< 1456074178 55212 :halycon!~halycon@24-183-46-62.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least the implicational fragment
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< 1456079074 181618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to check the source code to tell for sure, or ask schmorp and/or elmex directly, although the latter might be difficult communication-wise.
< 1456079081 50992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1456079083 297714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore that line
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< 1456080259 186510 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump!
< 1456080290 138828 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe there should be a way to mark comment lines at the end rather than the beginning
< 1456080296 418843 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like \\
< 1456080308 475989 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456080320 115566 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a line continuation you fool
< 1456080341 912711 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, uh, hth
< 1456080342 517694 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well \ would be, but \\ is currently invalid in C
< 1456080357 919612 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456080377 914373 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : so the point is, you could do
< 1456080405 360753 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456080407 637410 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\ is valid
< 1456080433 555507 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the next character after the newline makes an escape sequence
< 1456080487 531174 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what about in the middle of aline
< 1456080501 905971 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still a valid escape for \
< 1456080513 774124 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1456080524 111368 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shoudl add that to my mental index of pathological C cases
< 1456080557 491384 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :set the death flag \\ enemy.flag |= FLG_DEAD;
< 1456080625 965485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh,
< 1456080627 259284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#d\
< 1456080628 536401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ef\
< 1456080630 708302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in\
< 1456080633 262322 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :e \
< 1456080641 276459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was featured in one of the IOCCC entries I think
< 1456080663 833463 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more ??/
< 1456080677 595325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh
< 1456080715 722568 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1456080764 909546 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like a<:i:>
< 1456080789 305678 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a way to make your arrays sparkly
< 1456080800 82587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, that syntax gets even better in C++11 
< 1456080837 761729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has additional tokization rules such that in some contexts it does not parse >> and <: as digraphs 
< 1456080876 558297 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my workplace has banned anything above C++03
< 1456080894 781456 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyy
< 1456080896 655047 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to lack of support on embedded systems
< 1456080988 793247 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems most comilers for things like coffeemakers and refrigerators choke on advanced templates
< 1456081004 929675 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456081013 950312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, technically that's not true. the >> is not a tokizing rule, but a parsing rule.
< 1456081039 383498 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays if your embedded systems compiler isn't just clang + llvm, you're Doing It Wrong
< 1456081064 934877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sucks to have to develop for those embedded thingies I guess
< 1456081075 467468 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the <: is, however
< 1456081114 497647 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not for those embedded things specifically, but it has to be protable to them. anyway this means we have lots of in-house versions of things from boost
< 1456081122 889415 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I believe
< 1456081147 442943 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the compilers choke on boost
< 1456081164 719922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: actually, many parts of boost work on lots of old compilers too
< 1456081168 594680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all libraries in boost, but many
< 1456081221 330160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a few config macros can help when it doesn't)
< 1456081223 48997 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some of the inhouse stuff is just nih syndrome
< 1456081230 852716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure
< 1456081239 604392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or some of it might precede the same thing appearing in boost
< 1456081259 825645 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we have three in-house programming languages as well
< 1456081275 995638 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which compile into c++
< 1456081290 999141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: is one of them QT?
< 1456081295 403799 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456081311 810316 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them compiles into C++, Java and Javascript
< 1456081324 944384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you wouldn't take QT in a house. it's not potty-trained.
< 1456081333 379649 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1456081408 191210 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cod5.org/archive/s/salmon.html this is one of them
< 1456081430 854407 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a pet project of the lead dev before he came to this company
< 1456081450 960122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that we don't have... strange things at our workplace. Stuff that, after you learn about, you wish you've never met.
< 1456081485 955930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of old junk, and some new junk too.
< 1456081501 514086 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I don't dare to touch.
< 1456081525 249945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things only one person understands, and he's left the company years ago.
< 1456081579 952841 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this salmon thing will become impossible to maintain if the chief architect ever leaves
< 1456081586 701920 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456081600 471350 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1456081615 211266 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's what our equivalent of makefiles is wirtten in
< 1456081627 120585 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so D:
< 1456081669 854448 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :building your house on shifting sand, or whatever the parable was
< 1456081711 759905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not like I don't have such code either.
< 1456081723 399257 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456081777 564053 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a lot of companies have this sort of problem
< 1456081825 90528 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, if I learn to program in Salmon, I can take over the indispensibility
< 1456081848 726463 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you only have to learn to program in Salmon, or also learn how to maintain the compiler?
< 1456081932 690341 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler is written in C, and doesn't look too obfuscated
< 1456081954 706964 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it an interpreter?
< 1456081985 794530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, either. The implementation. Together with implementations of libraries used.
< 1456082001 698896 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy doesn't use any libraries
< 1456082031 546809 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once found a bug in the parser, which is just a bunch of switches on char's
< 1456082047 8558 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't use lex/yacc
< 1456082063 220367 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't always need lex/yacc.
< 1456082121 931575 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah but... it helps to prevent there being problems in the parser because things are checked for consistency
< 1456082559 236647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456082571 770384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1456082635 722654 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The fool will ask for wisdom all day. The wise man will bask in silence. )
< 1456082641 224664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic geometry/
< 1456082641 383244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src.
< 1456083330 935793 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode
< 1456083335 541822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1456083337 620223 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 〿
< 1456083338 718474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+303F IDEOGRAPHIC HALF FILL SPACE]
< 1456083348 491500 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUGH
< 1456083357 76704 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S HAF WIDT
< 1456083455 705390 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost my apache logs three days ago
< 1456083466 801166 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess how many ip's used arin.ga since then
< 1456083483 666534 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :50
< 1456083488 958988 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :106 :D
< 1456083506 413291 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I was within a order of magnitude
< 1456083527 164144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1456083595 2146 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (log10 50) - (log10 106)
< 1456083596 253038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘log10’Not in scope: ‘log10’
< 1456083600 689662 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1456083618 131476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few things i3wm doesn't have (as far as I can tell), which is:  * Set different color for tiled/floating windows  * Configure mouse cursors for different circumstances, places, modes, and bars  * Startup notification timeout set or always disable startup notification  * Unicode setting on/off (only when core fonts are used; with Pango, force Unicode on always)
< 1456083904 324943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (logBase 2 50) - (logBase 2 106)
< 1456083906 187785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1.0840642647884744
< 1456085960 605288 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (logBase 10 50) - (logBase 10 106)
< 1456085961 983003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -0.32633586092875144
< 1456085979 547727 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, within an order of magnitude
< 1456085999 158181 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1024**(1/3)
< 1456086000 534644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.079368399158984
< 1456086037 41986 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "digital ten"
< 1456086103 485763 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard drive sizes should be expressed in base digital ten
< 1456086217 364301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in base 32
< 1456086252 699672 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with digits @-_
< 1456086274 877341 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, @-^
< 1456086275 35247 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de QUIT :
< 1456086285 434344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1456086298 123110 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is 1, B is 2, etc.
< 1456086349 700921 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with digits 0-9A-V
< 1456086399 615832 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, that's harder to code
< 1456086536 660245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only the sizes of devices were always given in bytes, rather than varying sector sizes without telling how large a sector is, that would be an improvement.
< 1456086617 506789 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1456086637 153720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 bytes for typical hard disks and floppies, but 2048 (IIRC) for CDs, 256 for some lower capacity floppies, 1024 byte blocks for some unix utilities by default (like dd), and possibly more for some future hard disks.
< 1456086690 594532 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often 1000 bytes on packages
< 1456086718 526078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 4096 for SSDs and newer larger hard drives
< 1456086919 642835 :Opodeldoc_!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456087034 430456 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to have bash exec a command?
< 1456087045 233692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: sure, there's an exec builtin
< 1456087053 615228 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good
< 1456087112 954522 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm optimizing a bash script
< 1456087143 976402 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@184.20.162.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1456087245 544740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that exec has two forms. with arguments, it execs. without arguments, it just applies the redirects destructively to the current bash process, without execing.
< 1456087311 382697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` help exec
< 1456087317 699814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec: exec [-cl] [-a name] [command [arguments ...]] [redirection ...] \     Replace the shell with the given command. \      \     Execute COMMAND, replacing this shell with the specified program. \     ARGUMENTS become the arguments to COMMAND.  If COMMAND is not specified, \     any redirections take effect in the current shell. \      \     Opt
< 1456087390 230540 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: worth reading: http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2012/05/the-big-secret-banks-are-banks.html
< 1456087618 468141 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I read that. I don't think I understood it
< 1456087700 355778 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: basically people yelling about bailing banks out should understand what the government actually did
< 1456087714 939783 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, that one's written for Canada and the US situation was slightly different
< 1456087722 231064 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the government jut offered the banks really good loans
< 1456087736 289149 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a "bailout" in the sense of a giant grant
< 1456087832 782635 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is that that seems to be a reward given to the people who seem to be the perpetrators 
< 1456087915 870412 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially
< 1456087961 936668 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I personally think that if you bail out banks everytime they take actions which cast people into poverty, that will encourage tham to do it more often
< 1456087974 177181 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does help that our banks weren't responsible for the crisis the same way the US banks were
< 1456087991 403869 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. the canadian banks did ok.
< 1456088021 29595 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the post writes about the question of what happens if they aren't supported by government loans, though
< 1456088028 213962 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a good question
< 1456088044 334094 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter who's "responsible", the government *really* doesn't want a bank to default
< 1456088103 514454 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the consolidation of banks in the US is also worth caring about for that reason
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< 1456089912 261979 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1456091401 784110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 1d 5h 27m 50s ago: Oh, that's simpler than what I had -- didn't even think of testing A with the ]. But yes, something like that.
< 1456091539 910387 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan.
< 1456091598 713233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiloby.
< 1456091689 445101 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages
< 1456091696 179349 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages
< 1456091696 567200 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
< 1456091705 267632 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1456091705 530550 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd glogbot_ignore google graph hello helloworld hug id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf san
< 1456091743 670040 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the userinterps overfloweth tdnh
< 1456091791 446606 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show glogbot_ignore
< 1456091791 891314 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf ,[.,]
< 1456091809 151613 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp glogbot_ignore
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< 1456091827 521262 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show helloworld
< 1456091827 854025 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload (Hello, world!)S
< 1456091837 67072 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show hello
< 1456091837 563982 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :c char buf[1024]; int i; fgets(buf, 1024, stdin); for (i=0;buf[i];i++)buf[i]=(buf[i]=='\n')?'\0':buf[i]; if (!strcmp(buf, "h")) printf("Hello World\n"); else printf("Unknown command (%s) encountered\n", buf);
< 1456091847 739577 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp helloworld
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< 1456091851 816186 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1456091852 196967 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd google graph hello hug id inc insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python python2 redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 ruby_ sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffedeesh s
< 1456091860 48481 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still overflowing
< 1456091886 979548 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show postmodern_aoler
< 1456091887 428291 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh postmodern | b1ff
< 1456091897 635552 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp postmodern_aoler
< 1456091897 919227 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter postmodern_aoler deleted.
< 1456091919 459732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show elmer
< 1456091919 989091 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl for (<>) {lc; s/l(?!e\W)/w/g; s/\Ber|(?. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)"
< 1456092959 107748 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Mad Cow Virus
< 1456092960 417129 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show welcome2
< 1456092960 841097 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh interps/tell welcome2;# Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1456092977 808349 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we're not mad here :P
< 1456092988 810705 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's on "Learning Brainfuck and Derivatives", so I figured some sort of plague or invasive species
< 1456093006 84458 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And Mad Cow Virus was suggested
< 1456093019 913459 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome2 test
< 1456093020 392382 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.6273: line 1: interps/tell: No such file or directory
< 1456093032 537871 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome2
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< 1456093044 617784 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show sadbf
< 1456093044 930092 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadol :M$0 :d:i,45000@>i-01(2]M0:i-i1:S$0:C;3:l#C-01:p:m0@:m%+m1d?=#Cp"1<:m?<-m10-s1-m1?=#Cp"1.!'2#Mm?=#Cp"1,:#Mm'1;0?=#Cp"1[]S-p1?=#Cp"1]?=#Mm00:p[S0:p+p1
< 1456093057 363374 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's on brainfuck and some of the more useful derivatives- like weave.rb
< 1456093091 702213 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show map
< 1456093092 131644 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl for(<>){s/\b.+?\b/map/g;print}
< 1456093101 249010 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp map
< 1456093101 655206 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter map deleted.
< 1456093131 950157 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like someone's been attempting to put building blocks for a language in there and there's just no room for that.
< 1456093155 164529 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show python
< 1456093155 467621 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh python
< 1456093158 662126 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show python2
< 1456093159 147104 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh python
< 1456093163 866703 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp python2
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< 1456093177 296447 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show ruby_
< 1456093177 737007 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh ruby
< 1456093187 208924 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ruby test
< 1456093193 514736 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ruby_ test
< 1456093193 932701 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.6664: line 1: ruby: command not found
< 1456093201 521521 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ruby_
< 1456093201 864784 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ruby_ deleted.
< 1456093204 887364 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps
< 1456093205 218279 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: _ about acro aol austro bc bct bf2c bfbignum botsnack brit brooklyn bytes cat chaos chiqrsx9p choo cmd cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird fudd google graph hello hug insanetemp jethro kraut lg lperl lsh monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern prefixes python reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 sadbf sanetemp simplename slashes swedish tell valspeak wacro warez welcome yodawg
< 1456093209 289142 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally
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< 1456093268 702242 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show about
< 1456093269 162813 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload (EgoBot is able to interpret Any language possible as long as you can code the interpreter for it Have Fun :D)S
< 1456093282 885859 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm k
< 1456093295 552220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1456093416 845716 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BrainHype hth
< 1456093485 30836 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by "you" it means you hth
< 1456093496 428896 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, me?
< 1456093498 191369 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit.
< 1456093536 242449 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible i broke some other interpreter in there if it depended on calling out via the interps/ directory.  in theory.
< 1456093550 310082 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show bfbignum
< 1456093552 522367 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf (sending via DCC)
< 1456093599 203482 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show plot
< 1456093599 511298 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh echo ''; (echo -ne 'set terminal dumb\nplot '; cat) | gnuplot
< 1456093610 957448 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!plot test
< 1456093611 496098 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/input.6930: line 1: gnuplot: command not found \ /bin/cat: write error: Broken pipe
< 1456093616 687421 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp plot
< 1456093616 960549 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter plot deleted.
< 1456093625 993037 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked a bit too optimistic
< 1456093642 404947 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages
< 1456093642 781422 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
< 1456093647 660710 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python test
< 1456093648 472721 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \   File "", line 1, in  \ NameError: name 'test' is not defined
< 1456093668 324332 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show graph
< 1456093670 449907 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl (sending via DCC)
< 1456093734 140143 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that might work but i don't know the input syntax.
< 1456093763 617014 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show lperl
< 1456093764 69586 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl $_=<>;s/{{(.*?)}}(?!})/$1/gee;print
< 1456093787 271753 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show lsh
< 1456093787 670540 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl $_=<>;s/{{(.*?)}}(?!})/`$1`/ge;print
< 1456093816 339844 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show lg
< 1456093816 713977 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :python print("This isn't ##crawl!")
< 1456093823 399380 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp lg
< 1456093823 739486 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter lg deleted.
< 1456093864 613744 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lperl what does this do?
< 1456093865 82650 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this do?
< 1456093895 316591 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lperl what does this do?!
< 1456093895 759731 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this do?!
< 1456093960 441416 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lperl 2+2
< 1456093960 950050 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+2
< 1456093979 145431 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LIGATURE CHICKEN
< 1456093982 457829 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION no idea about that code
< 1456094122 542289 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1456094392 398069 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1456094465 396121 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? select
< 1456094474 30000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :select is a very versatile construct: it waits for events, retrieves data from tables, creates a list from elements of an input list that satisfy a condition, a dropdown list element, an event for when selection changes, branches between multiple arms, conditional between two expressions, prints a text-based menu prompt in a loop, and more.
< 1456094615 551742 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuclear engines are OP
< 1456094639 7210 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much delta-v
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< 1456094833 777109 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
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< 1456096741 457589 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1456096979 872877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46448&oldid=46345 5* 03MDude 5* (+18) 10
< 1456097030 336654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cryptoleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46449&oldid=45990 5* 03MDude 5* (+18) 10
< 1456097077 139173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BitBitJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46450&oldid=32445 5* 03MDude 5* (+19) 10
< 1456097122 591419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DJN OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46451&oldid=19059 5* 03MDude 5* (+20) 10
< 1456097143 93547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subleq+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46452&oldid=33342 5* 03MDude 5* (+20) 10
< 1456097279 849285 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1456097474 884609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Category:OISC14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46453 5* 03MDude 5* (+176) 10Created page with "One INstruction Set Computer: Languages which consist of exactly one instruction. Often low-level, with the intent of being usable as the instruction set of a proccessing unit."
< 1456098151 773720 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sortie
< 1456098153 269810 :sortie!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1456098451 121210 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1456099069 921071 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: hi, have you read Esolang:Policy hth
< 1456099075 535208 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk