< 1456704071 183727 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh some starfish do "Brittle stars have a blind gut with no intestine or anus." < 1456704284 319700 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` zgrep CONFIG_MODULES /proc/config.gz < 1456704285 151029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONFIG_MODULES_USE_ELF_RELA=y \ # CONFIG_MODULES is not set < 1456704395 227715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1456704395 574534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 282357Z 21020KT 12SM -RA FEW040 BKN063 BKN100 BKN150 09/05 A2986 RMK SC1SC4AC1AC1 VIRGA N SLP114 < 1456704491 11421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do most JavaScript programs require a webpage or most don't? (My own program "JSZM" does not require a webpage and only requires ES6.) < 1456704626 2210 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the sheer mass of websites means that most javascript code is written for websites... typically operating on the DOM, which requires some sort of browser. < 1456704642 929919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, the HTML DOM) < 1456704654 856814 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also an SVG one, at least < 1456704671 991323 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably extends to XML in general < 1456704693 687043 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then it covers XUL as well) < 1456704734 905708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@where weather) KSEA KOAK < 1456704735 97252 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :XUL is the worst < 1456704736 664942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : KSEA 282353Z 20014G20KT 10SM FEW012 BKN050 BKN060 07/05 A3004 RMK AO2 PK WND 22027/2338 RAE08B24E37 SLP179 P0001 60029 T00720050 10100 20067 53018 $ \ KOAK 282353Z 27006KT 10SM FEW020 BKN170 OVC200 17/11 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP224 T01720106 10189 20139 55006 < 1456704739 610233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ?? (?where weather) KSEA KOAK < 1456704741 636455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : KSEA 282353Z 20014G20KT 10SM FEW012 BKN050 BKN060 07/05 A3004 RMK AO2 PK WND 22027/2338 RAE08B24E37 SLP179 P0001 60029 T00720050 10100 20067 53018 $ \ KOAK 282353Z 27006KT 10SM FEW020 BKN170 OVC200 17/11 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP224 T01720106 10189 20139 55006 < 1456704745 770170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\?/@/g' wisdom/weather < 1456704747 928305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1456705211 82914 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme < 1456705217 945292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages. < 1456705251 71406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget extreme < 1456705254 263745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1456705310 81848 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ironing < 1456705310 979290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456705312 190100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1456705313 755037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1456705314 719562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Mon Feb 29 01:21:53 2016 < 1456705315 224596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme ironing < 1456705316 393983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme ironing is an esoteric sport in a similar sense as esoteric programming languages. < 1456705329 249211 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat? < 1456705330 889885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that date makes no sense hth < 1456705347 929904 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you just need a leap of logic hth < 1456705478 350870 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : see, this is why I'm not using learn <-- OKAY < 1456705506 311312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1456705507 730100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456705520 395438 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456705540 366869 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s '`learn' wisdom/learn < 1456705542 974008 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1456705573 175047 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bissextically mapoles oerjan < 1456705579 390732 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat? < 1456705587 437829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that entry is suspiciously accurate < 1456705596 942618 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i just made it < 1456705609 608224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn learn is the most convenient and error-prone way of adding new wisdom entries. < 1456705611 717316 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'learn': learn is the most convenient and error-prone way of adding new wisdom entries. < 1456705612 900669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `learn < 1456705613 937687 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn is the most convenient and error-prone way of adding new wisdom entries. < 1456705616 597851 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1456705618 414541 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1456705618 610815 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann%C3%A9e_bissextile < 1456705622 445256 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ARGH < 1456705626 947545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1456705635 301943 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*learn < 1456705636 834396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/learn \ wisdom/`learn < 1456705637 982884 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1456705640 789961 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/*learn < 1456705643 449739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Feb 29 00:25 wisdom/learn -> `learn \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 149 Feb 29 00:26 wisdom/`learn < 1456705647 385305 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1456705649 806600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1456705650 919762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...] < 1456705693 151626 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? one < 1456705694 203882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456705696 662867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish < 1456705697 815455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456705704 469842 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? seuss < 1456705705 570640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seuss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456705714 532477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dr seuss < 1456705715 447222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr seuss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456705783 190667 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bissextile is a weird word < 1456705797 232852 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say. < 1456705890 906307 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's because the roman calendar was weird. < 1456706037 723387 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :romans built an empire on top of unusual units and acrobarithmetic. < 1456706346 254542 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did any empire not < 1456706365 754887 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the french < 1456706376 726597 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except they were unusual when they started < 1456706549 234631 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is acrobarithmetic? < 1456706569 302073 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellombda-11235. it's acrobatical arithmetic hth < 1456706617 556111 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( There was a doctor called Seuss / who studied Grinch's Whoville abuse, / one fish and two fish, / red fish and blue fish. / To me that is highly abstruse. ) < 1456706748 637765 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456706792 446065 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be an ideal design for a database? < 1456706799 427866 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. what is your stance about unusual units? < 1456706815 41064 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideal? < 1456706815 210406 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What kind of unusual unit? < 1456706817 690145 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Units of what? < 1456706830 264541 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Most useful. < 1456706836 480381 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite? < 1456706853 241701 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme irony < 1456706854 906001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :extreme irony? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456706861 13737 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :units of measurement, odd conversion factors between them, units that measure unusual stuff... < 1456706871 29750 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah; love'em < 1456706882 849136 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn extreme irony/Extreme irony it was happens when you do extreme ironing leading to a Darwin award. < 1456706886 923744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme irony» < 1456706911 82560 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love them with almost exactly 5pi romeos (2.5tau juliettes) < 1456706918 532144 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn extreme irony/Extreme irony it what happens when you get a Darwin award for extreme ironing. < 1456706921 187108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme irony» < 1456706922 382951 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1456706929 342164 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn extreme irony/Extreme irony is what happens when you get a Darwin award for extreme ironing. < 1456706931 892166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «extreme irony» < 1456706940 74283 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the above, however, is extreme muphry's law. < 1456706973 345585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes HTML/SVG DOM is what I had meant. A JavaScript program is not required to touch any DOM though, and if only core JavaScript features are used then it can be used with anything. < 1456706987 218620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know < 1456707001 990620 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my stance about unusual units is about 63 millicleese hth < 1456707002 919850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It would then still require a front-end to be written, although that would be a separate program.) < 1456707015 461750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What is that units? < 1456707015 881307 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: millicleese? < 1456707040 121001 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 1/1000th of a cleese hth < 1456707044 816638 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: unit of absurd humor hth < 1456707068 442629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1456707081 372878 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456707100 33127 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the past tense of "synch" be "sanch"? < 1456707111 718099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some simple pure ecmascript I wrote some years ago for fun http://sprunge.us/SaZe?js < 1456707179 347515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any actual strong english verbs with y as main voerl < 1456707181 394049 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I love Tarjan's disjoint set forests.) < 1456707185 126020 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*woveel < 1456707217 6612 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you count lay, but I doubt it < 1456707234 758814 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could verbify "lyre" ;-) < 1456707247 379777 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with int-e < 1456707252 751620 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woveel, voerl, mhound, tromple, spronghack... < 1456707329 575625 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'd say that's not the main vowel < 1456707345 702966 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I would be inclined to agree < 1456707353 298433 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word 50 < 1456707356 743693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivlncene mball durhetendumen preng se pitibindrectic dgolineng obmlacomess cong fridarosed resmatienexong mee ats ramed fae acomerischigney nitgeheaesalthemereca canobipit ickeuconethet othilbarmundenobte si ta enatrad ceacgrapraffe hors juggerismushimeraocke idercenstrablebedres imulanimaartunignings ters mureahaltemassanon rned kito flasimen les < 1456707403 222837 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those words are a bit verbose < 1456707409 599202 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka wordful < 1456707420 343949 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mureahaltemassanon sounds Finnishish. < 1456707447 546370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wry! < 1456707455 28138 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh! < 1456707496 759452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a wry? < 1456707501 45013 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um, not strong sorry < 1456707567 735917 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe some others on -y are... < 1456707592 934765 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to study ZF^C < 1456707601 551657 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with ZFC < 1456707605 618569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :type? < 1456707625 157702 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph neither cry, try or fry < 1456707631 319343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what kind of strength you're after < 1456707655 452333 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC is set theory with nothing /but/ the axiom of choice < 1456707656 758525 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: an irregular vowel change in the past tense would be good < 1456707656 892009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hit/hit/hit kind? < 1456707675 509738 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ablaut, basically < 1456707707 215953 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't count -y -> -i- since that's a completely regular rule) < 1456707762 465011 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What alternatives are there to Horn Clauses for logic programming? < 1456707768 298578 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm to work with synch above, it probably shouldn't be the last sound in the word either < 1456707864 15136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whymtgcardsmith.tumblr.com/post/139692846278/because-actually-playing-magic-the-gathering-is Change "the player with the highest life total wins" to "the active player loses". < 1456707899 869898 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tryst" of 7th guest fame appears to be completely regular as well < 1456707917 958656 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the problem with finding one, i think, is that strong verbs are always germanic while y in germanic words only appears at the end like that < 1456707920 620863 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but is interesting to me in that the "y" isn't the usual ai: sound) < 1456707952 206511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm too lazy for proper IPA) < 1456707976 204877 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary claims it can be ai < 1456707992 624017 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aɪ < 1456708044 378618 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'll try sleep. Back in Europe... < 1456708428 710246 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you draw cards, draw an extra card" < 1456708437 874488 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone doesn't know about event-driven programming tautologies < 1456708847 220514 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456709385 5179 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is binging ASMR and SCP at the same time. maybe I shouldn't do that... < 1456710142 838381 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: A Sailor Moon Romance and the Society of Catholic Priests? < 1456710196 163474 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Age Standardized Mortality Rate and Security Certified Program? < 1456710233 25160 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average Spread Margin Rating and Simple Chess Program < 1456710312 330096 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if there were Sailor Moon ASMR out there... < 1456710324 584544 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catholic Priests are too terrifying to qualify as mere SCPs. < 1456711092 673298 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456711408 926614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does a person gotta do get mapoled around here < 1456711441 652486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, how is "mapole" pronounced? < 1456711452 700607 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad puns, essentially. < 1456711453 986054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed it was like "ma pole" < 1456711460 192338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it's more like "mey pole" < 1456711475 598785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have good puns tdnh < 1456711480 463084 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a pole, ma'am < 1456711527 430270 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mæ'po:l/ hth < 1456711529 395414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a mapole a citizen of mapoland < 1456711557 552038 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i find that o: unlikely < 1456711577 353987 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is likely, with my outrageous accent. < 1456711602 143666 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHKEE < 1456711627 595762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to read those highfaluting IPAs < 1456711630 217147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even drink beer < 1456711642 357658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it highfalutin? < 1456711648 567152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have faluted a little too high myself < 1456711689 870422 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if shachaf ever ingests anything nice < 1456711710 516482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, you weren't even around for my pun earlier < 1456711740 543749 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just lives on broccoli and bean sprouts < 1456711751 926015 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ieeeuw... broccoli... < 1456711778 671196 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the occasional grapefruit. < 1456711779 58144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when i was ~3 years old i'm told i would throw tantrums about not being given broccoli < 1456711795 931528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would sit outside the apartment and scream "broccoli! broccoli!" even through we were out < 1456711814 895263 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes shachaf < 1456711829 985958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2016-02-27#225334oerjan < 1456711857 734282 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and what was the pun you got overmapoled for? < 1456711893 150534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i've ever been overmapoled < 1456711948 405944 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Where do I file a complain if I have reason to believe I've been overly mapoled? ← overmapoling much? < 1456711965 49034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, right. < 1456711968 171794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pun is a few lines later. < 1456712094 580764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks shachaf with his mapole < 1456712099 334726 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pun was bad. < 1456712125 937438 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still file a complain. < 1456712157 389930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1456712159 142244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" >> Complaints.mp3; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1456712167 119876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits Complaints.mp3 < 1456712172 914816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett oerjan tswett oerjan hppavilion[2] oerjan < 1456712257 961298 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LEOTARD CHICKEN < 1456712856 328952 :andrew!~andrew@119.139.158.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456713218 170845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are the modal complainer < 1456713307 820079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ie am the very modal of a modern filer of complaints" < 1456713310 202895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/e// < 1456713431 920924 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain This database lacks knowledge animal and vegetable and mineral. < 1456713435 375342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1456713497 921863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're even more modal < 1456713503 840228 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mod 2, to be precise. < 1456713532 369473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to think Modest Mussorgsky's first name was the english adjective < 1456713546 54646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like an odd title to give oneself < 1456713549 484745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seemed < 1456713583 213703 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as he was an exhibitionist < 1456713987 694622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got selections to work in my program now, in both directions < 1456714033 324426 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456714035 635917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the music from Modest Mussorgsky on my computer right now < 1456714070 418299 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456714132 509143 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456714173 260952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which music? < 1456714179 369171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wrote good musics. < 1456714255 48441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Great Gate of Kiev" < 1456714321 878781 :Sir_Andrei!~user@r179-25-97-128.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy JOIN :#esoteric < 1456714325 153046 :Sir_Andrei!~user@r179-25-97-128.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1456714399 210201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox requests the "TARGETS" target five times, and then "UTF8_STRING", and then "COMPOUND_TEXT", and then "STRING". Xterm requests "UTF8_STRING" (even if Unicode mode is disabled), and then "TEXT", and then "COMPOUND_TEXT", and then "STRING". < 1456714402 896843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that? < 1456714709 769795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can now write: window.createSelection(X.atom.PRIMARY,t=>(t==X.atom.STRING && new Property(X.atom.STRING,8,"Hello, World!"))).on("clear",()=>console.log("Cleared")); < 1456715108 489170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Property/X.Property/ < 1456715211 486688 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456715298 715303 :augur!~augur@108-60-123-170.static.wiline.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456715309 190528 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456715553 33007 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1456715707 809604 :Sir_Andrei!~user@r179-25-97-128.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy QUIT :Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) < 1456717519 212206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to add support for Plan9 forwarding into SSH server in Linux? If so, how? < 1456717594 693802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other thing to add would be support for adding a one time pad encryption on the outside layer) < 1456719814 481839 :noncom!~noncom@37.221.200.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456720219 667971 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456721347 39801 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1456721901 917420 :ayeelmao!~c0v3r@ip68-227-34-168.lv.lv.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456723159 241718 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1456725164 337076 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456725216 434493 :andrew__!~andrew@119.137.99.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456725372 382617 :andrew!~andrew@119.139.158.159 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1456725451 598544 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz JOIN :#esoteric < 1456725466 247787 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456725691 854566 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the opposite of intuitionistic logic? Something destructive, no doubt < 1456725714 169664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is dual-intuitionistic logic. < 1456725732 553183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where not not P is a stronger statement than P. < 1456726102 977477 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unicode.org/consortium/adopt-a-character.html < 1456726460 16211 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1456726523 162062 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I don't understand how that's not satire. It's satire, isn't it? But it's on unicode.org. I'm so confused. < 1456726615 230270 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: it is a sort of donation mechanism, all serious < 1456726702 151152 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I told someone I was paying $5000 a year to sponsor a Unicode character and, in return, receive an engraved plaque, I'd be locked in the looney bin. < 1456726782 812137 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an aside: Hello! I'm new to this channel < 1456726829 401975 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello :p < 1456726882 735645 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Than just tell them you're paying to support multilingistic harmony across all computer systems. < 1456726971 548893 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: I think that's still grounds for the looney bin :) < 1456727422 702260 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456727434 695696 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Then just don't tell anyone. :) < 1456727489 79522 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: have you adopted a character yet? < 1456727599 583144 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if I was going to adopt, I'd choose U+200F RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK. It's a good character < 1456727679 2894 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, it's a great character to insert into unsanitized HTML forms < 1456727765 199657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dingbat < 1456727772 302848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1456727863 389476 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheers. I'm a big fan of esolangs, so I guess this is a good place to lurk < 1456727873 62363 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: No. < 1456727878 463000 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: visible, allocated graphical characters only < 1456727900 965494 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: aww. Shame < 1456727962 128686 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: someone managed to adopt a combining character, though < 1456728002 930148 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd choose λ, just cause it's the only character whose code I've memorized by heart. < 1456728009 558756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that a lot of mess has been made with Unicode < 1456728037 593251 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ⯣ ? < 1456728083 711442 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: U-03BB, so no. 11235 is the first 5 numbers in the fibonacci sequence. < 1456728117 963766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: people do that in zoos, but in that case at least they get a plaque not at home, but at the cage of the animal they adopt, so anyone visiting the zoo can see they're the sponsor. < 1456728165 165269 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456728169 159978 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right. And that makes some sense, because people go to animal zoos. But I somehow doubt many people visit the "Unicode zoo" < 1456728191 855526 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse Polish Logic < 1456728212 429527 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0666 is a nice satanic character. ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT SIX < 1456728233 906212 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0666 < 1456728235 422102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​٦ < 1456728245 807116 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+6666 < 1456728246 713460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​晦 < 1456728261 560667 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0777 < 1456728262 326037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ݷ < 1456728280 415067 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+7777 < 1456728281 381507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​睷 < 1456728293 834059 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 4242 < 1456728294 874487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​䉂 < 1456728318 371423 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 42 < 1456728319 152866 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B < 1456728322 757402 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAAAAASP < 1456728337 85897 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: ٦٦٦ < 1456728355 832952 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh nooo Satan's string is coming for me! < 1456728366 233261 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1f446 < 1456728367 3628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​👆 < 1456728399 366835 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So glad iPhone finally added that to the font set. Conversations with friends are much more succinct < 1456728464 165942 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :👎 < 1456728474 605551 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: U+1F446 displays for you? on weechat it doesn't show up, although in the terminal emulator it does. < 1456728487 834051 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1f459 < 1456728488 347603 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wierd. < 1456728513 61682 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: Yup. I'm on IRCCloud, the OS X client, specifically. So I guess it's using OS X system fonts < 1456728541 786500 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: possible noooooooooooooooooooooob < 1456728576 501942 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what typographists are calling "Totally gay", U+1F46C < 1456728586 277518 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hahaha it's the most convenient client I've tried. It stays connected no matter what, and I don't have to keep a bouncer running :) < 1456728614 872304 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1456728634 491451 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F47C is depressing < 1456728696 247197 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456728696 418525 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1456728696 418597 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1456728824 444388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UTCE" http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce is a better character set for making terminal emulators with, than Unicode, which is especially bad for that purpose < 1456728899 981730 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does it have box drawing? < 1456728908 380046 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it is a well-doomed replication of ISO 2022 I think < 1456728919 336046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes it does have all of the box drawing < 1456728925 950648 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: STFH < 1456728935 827859 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(STFH is the opposite of GTFO) < 1456728976 113604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The PC character set has all of the box drawing, and all characters in the PC character set are included in UTCE) < 1456728997 733363 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ! < 1456729012 689253 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: & < 1456729021 766882 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I made a GUI application for generating SBLs < 1456729026 859639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually there are also a few additional box drawing stuff in the DEC and Infocom and Commodore sets, and those are also all included. < 1456729232 710183 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's an sbl? < 1456729305 380431 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Stack-based langauge < 1456729322 899771 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, like forth or factor? < 1456729345 293165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It is far simpler than ISO 2022 actually, and is capable of being used on the same system as ISO 2022. < 1456729346 433316 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or PostScript? < 1456729445 709143 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't that bytes marked with * are used to switch the current bank? < 1456729458 591344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can use the DEC character set selections together with it, and use a single font with it. Therefore the terminal emulator can be fulfilled without use of Unicode or ISO-2022-JP or whatever else like that) < 1456729482 959836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: No, the bytes marked with * are not used in UTCE, and may be used for data transfer functions and/or terminal control functions. < 1456729503 262234 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes, like forth or factor, but stupider < 1456729515 68899 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Really, it just prompts you with random symbols and you describe them < 1456729524 272563 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: It's for mass-production of low-quality esolangs < 1456729546 985248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The bytes marked with 0 also, if not the second byte of a two-byte code, may be used for terminal controls, such as to emulate VT100 character set selections.) < 1456729548 837778 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Does Befunge count as an SBL? < 1456729583 391714 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it actually is [\t\r\n...] | [\x20-\x7e] (?# bank 0 characters ) | [\x80-\xff] [\x20-\x7e\x80-\xff] (?# double-width fixed bank characters ) | [\x80-\xff] [\x00-\x1f] (?# bank override ) ? < 1456729638 673607 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then this is much worse than ISO 2022 in terms of total number of characters supported. < 1456729671 389137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I change the document a bit to clarify it < 1456729709 734223 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Yes. < 1456729721 824588 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: for example, how would you support GB 2312 in the same framework? < 1456729729 754464 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Anything with a stack as the primary data structure is an SBL < 1456729770 793768 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Gotcha. (I'm particularly fond of Befunge as far as esoterics go, and working on a similar language) < 1456729871 266837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Currently there is no Chinese supporting, although you can write in Japanese. (There is also no Korean) It could possibly be added into the double wide characters though, although currently they are defined as only JIS X 0213 < 1456729900 616185 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: Befunge is the best < 1456729907 807001 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: I once tried making a production Fungeoid < 1456729916 324873 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it going to be a multi-byte (larger than 2 bytes) encoding? < 1456729920 703016 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat: (Also, I wrote most of the fungeoid article on the wiki :)) < 1456729929 636979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is only 2 bytes < 1456729943 444055 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need some kind of switch characters, and it is identical to ISO 2022 < 1456729955 4251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect that you can do without simplified Chinese < 1456729982 711498 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe a flat namespace used by Unicode is much better than tons of separated namespaces < 1456730017 829276 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxuiakmfhjpgzmxz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh neat. I really like how fantastically easy it is to make a simple fungeoid interpreter < 1456730033 84371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is better yes, although the rest of Unicode is worst. < 1456730084 860918 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have tried TRON first :p < 1456730206 436908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I believe my design can be reasonable even without simplified Chinese included. (Arabic and Hebrew and zero-width spaces and combining characters will never be included; all of these things are against this design.) < 1456730208 739621 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, did ais523 deliberately name Underload to make people create an abbreviation ambiguous with the already famous language unlambda, in a similar way as brainfuck and befunge causes problems? < 1456730274 755267 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, kind of like a built-your-own-with-five-words kind of esolang < 1456730329 114099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if it's so, then we need another language as successful as those whose name matches I.*C.* < 1456730374 665622 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456730384 661808 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes < 1456730398 742572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTCE is not designed for typography; it is designed for screen displaying on a grid-based display with simple encoding/decoding, so there is no such things as hyphenations and ligatures and so on that can be supported (actually an implementation probably could, but it would be a bad idea). < 1456730400 594619 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Except it can have upwards of 18000 instructions < 1456730464 851407 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, I was thinking of something like "C without semicolons" or "Lisp with indentation" < 1456730520 618847 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: like cp437? < 1456730533 517890 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: C without semicolons? http://ioccc.org/1988/litmaath.c (+ s/;/{}/) < 1456730566 60875 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not really hard. < 1456730604 590239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but with more characters including DEC characters. < 1456730622 953752 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I try to read ioccc code? < 1456730638 464839 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T EVEN KNOW C NORMALLY < 1456730652 140451 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I do < 1456730672 364706 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written thousands of things in C < 1456730812 928871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, avoids the confusion of graphics with control codes) < 1456730951 234601 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it looks like it's an implementation of echo < 1456730974 630161 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Ah < 1456731015 252033 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only with spaces replaced with \n < 1456731070 755215 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or '\n'.join(sys.argv[1:]) < 1456731098 146280 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Python < 1456731313 876617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In JavaScript it would be process.argv.slice(1).join("\n") although note that the name of the program is argv[1] (and argv[0] is the name of the interpreter) so it isn't quite the same way necessarily < 1456731372 596885 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456731375 250434 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard < 1456731384 903891 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnird to you < 1456732847 902222 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnurd < 1456733262 769412 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1456733316 701938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not know C programming, then you must learn. < 1456733421 564412 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1456733451 157033 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language that doesn't change the way you think is not worth knowing < 1456734156 830098 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What if said language is your first language? < 1456734168 453565 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And you already thought in its mindset? < 1456734195 940140 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/izabera/pathhack if anyone wants to try this, it lets you handle relative paths in other directories than . < 1456734222 282555 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put the list in the paths file and run make < 1456734233 477440 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to axiomize everything in one grand messy axiomatic system < 1456734235 301679 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's mostly a test, maybe i'll rewrite it with fuse) < 1456734245 618768 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can reason about groups relative to topological systems < 1456734261 647985 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/systems/spaces/ < 1456734271 156635 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may have just invented Category Theory < 1456734296 835257 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ZFC < 1456734328 302238 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, it axiomizes things completely unrelated to sets (though you can, of course, construct them using sets) < 1456734420 993838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory has many definitions made including thin category, discrete category, functors, monads, comonads, initial/final object, etc. Also a category can add/multiply/exponent another category, and in this way the finite discrete categories are the natural numbers of these add/multiply/exponent. < 1456734450 909203 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is there category successor? < 1456734471 459555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add one, I suppose < 1456734482 121089 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: NOT GOOD ENOUGH < 1456734493 523944 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You must go peano on its ass or it isn't real arithmetic < 1456734494 253706 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1456734537 607697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could add one to any category it does not have to be a discrete category. < 1456734572 236511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A discrete category is a category with no morphisms other than identity morphisms.) < 1456734628 61827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By "add one" I mean you add the discrete category with one object.) < 1456734678 489718 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah < 1456734702 95315 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is there category predecessor though? < 1456734713 953779 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predecessor is really what this's about < 1456734758 399641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, there cannot always be. < 1456734760 361708 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1456734763 949720 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Use of the successor function was a bad choice for Peano, because successor is better for computing (you don't need to brute force it or use algebra)) < 1456734765 618672 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“(A discrete category is a category with no morphisms other than identity morphisms.)” => is that like a set? < 1456734768 4958 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's what I thought < 1456734802 235715 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net NICK :mtve < 1456734810 90612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I suppose it is like a set. < 1456734878 246355 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read about Ultrafinitism < 1456734882 37131 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew < 1456734942 262859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any category with more than one object has more monads than final objects. < 1456734975 288915 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456735182 660593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm reminded to the infamous lambdacats. And the one that says “I FIXED UR TYPE ERROR / BUT NOW IT SAYS SUMTHING ABOUT / MONOMORPHISM RESTRIKSHUN” < 1456735201 385075 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C changes the way you think to. < 1456735229 49666 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It changes it to "this language shouldn't have been used as a first choice". < 1456735315 540420 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of languages like that < 1456735323 332360 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :php for example < 1456735377 227622 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And brianfuck < 1456735410 801417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to think C is not so bad. PHP isn't very good though < 1456735416 527993 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, brainfuck is alright < 1456735435 266294 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, c++ < 1456735444 361570 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one mess of a language < 1456735482 304212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true, C++ is pretty messy < 1456735740 678721 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456735988 668480 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456736008 909127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting how "to find" is practically identical to "finden" in germany, including that weird "i find sth to be sth" < 1456737852 716879 :impomatic!~impomatic@79.16.114.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456738055 84509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up with all these boot loaders that set up graphical mode on PC hardware with bios? Why don't they just use the default vga (or similar) text mode that the bios sets up for them? < 1456739110 337962 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it looks fancier obviously. < 1456739621 849746 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456739875 772556 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456741316 790451 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejx24.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1456742435 811213 :jaboja!~jaboja@ejx24.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456743662 715274 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456744679 332066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/gallery/kenWB i want hair like ariel < 1456744965 261650 :Xe!xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456745628 662068 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456746112 3813 :ayeelmao!~c0v3r@ip68-227-34-168.lv.lv.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1456746703 452010 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1456746744 29899 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Xe < 1456746759 354085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Xe: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1456747535 467288 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1456747535 600851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1456747645 298182 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping < 1456747654 609720 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1456747784 178357 :tjt263__!~RAPSCA77I@125-209-149-31.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1456747871 589303 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome tjt263__ < 1456747879 17449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08tjt263__: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1456748112 996398 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456748142 256554 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1456748315 947949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ut-oh. < 1456748384 635885 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1456748400 796500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we fun-go-t. < 1456748515 849765 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456748558 887990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai! < 1456748559 339173 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe i'll re-write her in scheme and how to remedy it provisionally. people never bother to read the label off of one and only making a new scheme implementation. < 1456748585 644452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Chicken Scheme is good. it has chicken < 1456748585 961752 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ' cause its in a directory? either way it's much better to force you to shoot yourself in the scratch package < 1456748595 457083 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ow! no! < 1456748596 33834 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://gs30ng.exca.net/ tempimage/ fnord) lets me know i am a newbie so i don't think it's deterministic. < 1456748630 530571 :tjt263__!~RAPSCA77I@125-209-149-31.dyn.iinet.net.au PART #esoteric :"part" < 1456748840 146490 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PREEMPTIVE CHICKEN < 1456749620 540999 :andrew__!~andrew@119.137.99.104 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456751323 998172 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1456751396 810959 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456751418 693416 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456751617 593039 :Veltas!~quassel@static.117.33.251.148.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1456751651 775328 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456751794 672980 :Veltas!~quassel@static.117.33.251.148.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1456751810 332686 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456752104 244642 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1456752937 711891 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456752999 976915 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1456753126 954032 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1456753556 209664 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456753827 357107 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it looks really weird to see San smiling nicely. She only does that once in the whole movie. < 1456753933 754647 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a neutral-ish smile < 1456753941 556562 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, she shouldn't be wearing lipstick, she should be wearing wolf BLOOD < 1456754018 25436 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we still have that bot that adds stickmen when one types \o/ ? < 1456754021 910978 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C no < 1456754256 878134 :\oren\_!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511664.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should do eboshi and the giant pig lord < 1456754466 778382 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456755172 675912 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no myndzi ;_; < 1456755353 114257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen myndzi < 1456755353 247784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mYNDzI < 1456755359 249613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1456755371 919717 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did lambdabot do there... < 1456757521 255912 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1456757788 899420 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1026 < 1456757796 674705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1026: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1456757823 951152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help seen < 1456757824 84812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1456757848 854253 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: leet < 1456757863 595637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1456758015 146339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor Belkar < 1456758099 245595 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456758399 242957 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456758471 710951 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456758811 179617 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456759130 847718 :ski_!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se NICK :ski < 1456759288 195707 :AlexR42!~textual@95.105.108.154 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1456759395 175608 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456759659 198872 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got an esolang idea, infinitely parallel DFA. the DFA's output is (synchronously) transmitted to the next machine in chain, and its input is similarily hooked to one previous to it < 1456759684 450465 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the beginning, a starting symbol is fed into the machine in the head of the chain < 1456759969 45845 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it is turing complete, as you can have a system thusly, simulating cyclic tag system: you have symbols S (start symbol), 0, 1, ;, D0, D1. the machine's initial state responds to D0 (in which case it sets its internal state to 0 and moves to "main loop"), D1 (same as internal D0, except internal state 1), and S (at first send out the starting data using D0 and D1, then start sending out the progr < 1456759975 58137 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :am, repeatedly, encoded in 0, 1, ;) < 1456760110 634449 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the main loop, the DFA reacts to 0, 1, ;, D0, D1. if it gets 0 or 1 and its internal state is 1, it then send forwards either a D0 or D1, otherwise don't transmit anything. if it gets ;, it goes into "death loop", where it will merely repeat the symbol it receives. for D0 and D1, it will just repeat the symbol onwards < 1456760124 147532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: so you basically want a cellular automaton with a particluar neighborhood rule? < 1456760138 481946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: those are known to be enough to be turing-complete, with the right DFA ruleset. < 1456760146 596846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with quite small ones too < 1456760146 730248 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1456760171 33690 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't realise it mapped into cellular automata, but now thinking makes sense < 1456760544 252976 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1456760961 712696 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456761750 684240 :ayeelmao!~c0v3r@ip68-227-34-168.lv.lv.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456761911 208070 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456761943 301927 :ayeelmao!~c0v3r@ip68-227-34-168.lv.lv.cox.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1456762060 103875 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.33 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1456762151 182976 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1456762355 272843 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456762439 22704 :lynn!~lynn@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1456762969 503700 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456763516 480878 :p34k!~p34k@nat-wh-wz4-12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1456763640 61972 :Xe!~xe@infoforcefeed/Xe JOIN :#esoteric < 1456764280 329535 :cnr_!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1456764382 261773 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1456764382 395328 :Yurume!~23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1456764382 534823 :cnr_!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me NICK :cnr < 1456764382 668101 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me QUIT :Changing host < 1456764382 668160 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1456764501 222793 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456764621 177027 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1456764925 189174 :Yurume!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456764931 813359 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-108.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Script injection because of a policy that lets through anything in JSFuck, apparently: http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/02/02/ebay-platform-exposed-to-severe-vulnerability/ < 1456765306 807437 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456765571 853811 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456766558 241501 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@105.208.85.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456766837 797318 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456767196 161663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: whoa whoa whoa, spoilers < 1456767222 771609 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cbbe oryxne* then < 1456767350 290812 :Guest4233!~sprocklem@131.104.23.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456767382 149605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Cbbe oryxne < 1456767392 342125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor belkar < 1456767403 70215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least he didn't die yet. < 1456767449 413485 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a fate worse than death? < 1456767455 413932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1456767529 812584 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opspgececsbhehms QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1456767606 475382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried OotS but usually I doze off after panel 2. < 1456767688 887175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you start from the beginning? < 1456767718 624649 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets a lot more story-driven after the first story arc I'd say < 1456767869 811247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually followed it for a while... to the 726, apparently. < 1456767880 616197 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was years ago < 1456768016 941487 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1456768017 324781 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1456768017 612339 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1456768017 804582 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1456768017 981475 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1456768101 218252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :944) I stand by the argument that fungot is the one making the most sense in this channel. < 1456768101 717570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :507) this strikes me as probably better than a singularity, because you can't trust a random AI, but you can probably trust olsner < 1456768101 850788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :196) ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid < 1456768101 850850 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :336) anyway i have to get going, first lecture at 9 and i need to do a few iterations on my article, and do some unmentionable things which also take hours and masturbate as well < 1456768102 214565 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :129) Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. < 1456768136 817466 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oots < 1456768138 5581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456768138 165248 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? o < 1456768139 12033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456768162 473377 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vaarsuvius < 1456768163 222909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaarsuvius? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1456768220 535502 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shakespeare < 1456768221 892571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1456768225 309794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 < 1456768227 266730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wiles < 1456768228 877244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'vaarsuviu': Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 < 1456768229 519362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1456768255 54569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wilde < 1456768255 708229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1456768273 198852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week. < 1456768276 678713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'vaarsuviu': Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week. < 1456768567 92486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm will they make prints of http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=479 ? that looks amazing... < 1456768588 656452 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1456768632 640102 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456768903 803943 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that all vacuously true statements about the elements set {} are vacuously true? < 1456768935 843203 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@105.208.85.7 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1456768951 67515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I would say that's false. < 1456769001 721723 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Did I make the math joke wrong? < 1456769081 967939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, uhm. < 1456769145 190137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it's correct but what you wrote is not itself vacuously true; it's just a normal tautology. < 1456769158 463881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's confusing :P < 1456769224 901180 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: OK, OK < 1456769287 327716 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1456769800 683599 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vaarsuviu < 1456769801 834050 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week. < 1456769813 507561 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vaarsuvius < 1456769814 431739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week. < 1456769818 790861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it works that way too < 1456769939 224453 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1456769971 195967 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1456770723 646603 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456771466 354644 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1456771920 639027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1] < 1456772025 707209 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintellopia < 1456772053 419762 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easiest to prove things if you assume all axioms < 1456772078 530089 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I can prove just as many things with only one axiom! < 1456772091 311170 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Which one? < 1456772100 706025 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all statements S, S is true. < 1456772224 990939 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Oh < 1456772405 616890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such axiom is inconsistent though and does not result in a meaningful system. < 1456772434 762314 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right < 1456772447 200122 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "all axioms" since that would necessarily include the negation of any axiom assumed < 1456772535 842565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you don't need a universal quantifier if you use the axiom P and not P (for whichever P you feel like using) < 1456772576 641580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a waste of quantifiers < 1456772684 399028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A scow IRC behavior is when you try to get people to commit to answering your questions before even knowing what they are. < 1456772715 326305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know, both are inconsistent, since if everything can be a theorem then it is inconsistent < 1456772719 468596 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: true < 1456773069 544579 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uekqylqqemdcagpf JOIN :#esoteric < 1456773147 337248 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1456773263 808157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have updated the UTCE document including more clarification, information about error conditions, and information about using it with ISO 2022. < 1456773281 853003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also information about use with X window system. < 1456773315 622650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i personally dont see a problem with surveying channel activity before laying out a long complicated question however < 1456773914 112440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is good now? < 1456774119 992101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, where's the document? < 1456774143 733153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be somewhere under the text files < 1456774541 9948 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1456774641 240442 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1456774806 248441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce < 1456775098 979462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, miscellaneous < 1456775174 447800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other directories are mainly for archived files, so it is unlikely to add files into the other directories) < 1456775205 881699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1456775214 607975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everything goes under misc* < 1456775215 500482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1456775306 248914 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1456775357 797366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not quite everything, occasionally files are added into other directories if they really fit there, or new directories are created for use of other archives, but my own new files tend to go under miscellaneous regardless of what they are about. The file music/xm-form.txt is one file that contains my own text as well as that from elsewhere, since that file contained some mistakes. I have marked what my changes are. < 1456775383 80117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's just most files right now < 1456775435 65699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1456775677 82738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what is your opinion of this UTCE document? < 1456775739 259045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I mostly agree with whoever said above that it's better to have a flat homogenous namespace of characters, and that namespace these days tend to be unicode. There might be characters missing, but they can be added. < 1456775762 962407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do understand that a terminal encoding or font encoding needs different characters than a text encoding, < 1456775767 954018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they certainly have to be distinguished, < 1456775775 517017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least unicode provides a good base for all of these. < 1456775805 547139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fonts, you often need more than one glyphs for one character, or combinations of characters, so it gets all ugly and complicated, but still. < 1456775817 847064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of that can come up even with terminals. < 1456775873 996429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminals should avoid use of such things. UTCE deliberately omits such things as Arabic and Hebrew < 1456775877 920396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although admittedly _part_ of the multiplication of glyphs required per character would have better been avoided when unicode was made, < 1456775895 910738 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is just a historical consequence of unifying the CJK scripts or of unifying the Russian with the Serbian scripts, < 1456775910 241445 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456775921 733740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a bit too later for that, and even if you did all those historical things right, you'd sometimes need multiple glyphs per character in a font. < 1456775957 478462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh sure, arabic, hebrew, or old hungarian runes need so much ligature stuff that you just can't display them on a terminal grid, I think. < 1456775982 810773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just don't work in monospaced. < 1456776019 600623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct. < 1456776037 524947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know too much about arabic or hebrew, so don't trust what I say about those.\ < 1456776050 126471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I display mostly latin script stuff in terminals. < 1456776066 714335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And even latin script has some complications of course.) < 1456776086 833551 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language stuff is never easy. < 1456776090 730850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about Aratic and Hebrew, although they are right-to-left, which is also deliberately avoided by UTCE. < 1456776181 633343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, UTCE is not intended to be used for typography; it is for terminal encoding. Even for typography, all properties should be defined in the font metrics instead of in the character set anyways. < 1456776183 344082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Commodore 64 characters are an interesting case. That rom supports two or three font encodings, and I think \oren\ found that there are six characters all together supported by the commodore that don't seem to have nice unicode equivalents. < 1456776193 196439 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1456776200 80945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those should be added to unicode eventually if they are used. < 1456776221 809116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is OK that some characters are not available in Unicode. < 1456776231 970754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTCE is separate from Unicode. < 1456776246 681918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, because there are tons of characters in general. And there's always more of them. < 1456776430 798246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A terminal emulator can support multiple character encodings anyways, although sometimes different fonts may be needed in each case. I recommend that the additional character encodings to support are only the subset of ISO 2022 that is implemented in DEC terminals. < 1456776526 484415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it is not only some Commodore 64 characters which have no Unicode equivalent, this is also the case with some Apple MouseText, Texas Instruments, and Infocom character graphics. < 1456776541 660169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As well as a small number of DEC character graphics) < 1456776574 303543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what Apple MouseText is < 1456776608 288864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas Instruments… um, is that the programmable calculators? I don't really know what kind of single-cell characters they have these days. < 1456776627 9073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infocom... I don't know that either < 1456776636 178145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do mean the programmable calculators. Many of the characters it has are in Unicode, but a few aren't. < 1456776662 840444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the DEC graphics characters, I believe all of them are in unicode now. There's only about 70 or something of them total anyway, and most of them were already in unicode for other reasons. < 1456776683 511285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the pieces of the large Sigma aren't? < 1456776810 831882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there a reference for that set of characters somewhere? < 1456776962 841349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vt100.net/charsets/technical.html < 1456777027 749168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is also the VT100 graphics set, which is a separate set, already included in both Unicode and UTCE.) < 1456777041 613181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Technical set is mostly in Unicode and fully in UTCE. < 1456777062 936406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can see, the pieces of the large Sigma have no Unicode equivalents. < 1456777074 154063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1456777119 896130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, those might not have a unicode equivalent. I don't know. < 1456777336 937800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice there are some duplicates; UTCE is meant not to have duplicates, so the encodings aren't exactly the same as the originals. (A font for the X window system will likely contain duplicates anyways for compatibility purposes, as described in the document I wrote.) < 1456777378 47416 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, it will have duplicates between those different character sets < 1456777412 913239 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's quite some overlap between the DEC technical set and the 437 for example < 1456777466 531767 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-104-229.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1456777585 872992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that, and when converting either of those same characters from either DEC or PC set into UTCE, they convert to the same UTCE code. < 1456777613 814883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-123.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456777774 400963 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47.208.113.50 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1456778178 338212 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1456779396 574440 :augur!~augur@50-1-126-214.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456779583 127199 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Designing an ASCII art font is less than fun < 1456779595 673860 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_, was it you who was making a font? < 1456779936 636901 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: \oren\ made one, lifthrasiir also made one, and I also have a bitmap font available only in BDF format currently < 1456779974 862660 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, do you have an example rendering of your font < 1456779975 960903 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently dormant (due to other works, in particular a brainfuck interpreter retrial) < 1456780051 206179 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, I'm only using ASCII, do you have an example rendering? < 1456780063 747415 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not any good ones. I should make some, but I'm lazy < 1456780068 981021 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample < 1456780077 99675 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've drawn plenty of them < 1456780097 206994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-cp437.png and http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-screenshot-irc.png are all I have available, and they don't show much < 1456780112 553790 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1456780129 864902 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, neither are quite what I was after < 1456780133 690732 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, though :) < 1456780159 501514 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going for a far lower resolution) < 1456780187 505623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: mine is 10x20, oren's and lifthrasiir's both use a 16x9 grid or something I think < 1456780204 886041 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16x(8n) variable, to be exact < 1456780231 19118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: oh, is yours 16x8 rather than 16x9? I didn't know < 1456780243 97306 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a brainfuck program to make ASCII art banners < 1456780252 25019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what size would you want? < 1456780252 287143 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that some glyphs smoothly connect to each other < 1456780273 309807 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: FIGlet renderer in brainfuck? :) < 1456780290 991206 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently going for 4 by 5 < 1456780297 964963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, lifthrasiir's is 8 wide < 1456780392 314795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: what's your progress with it by the way? I've seen you've added some more Latin script characters, but you haven't added the easy but common characters like " " (thin space) yet. I know you said you didn't want to add them yet, but maybe that's changed since. < 1456780418 840011 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I could use yours, I guess < 1456780424 710353 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was working on combining hangul and stopped there < 1456780445 876988 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks broadly like a higher-definition version of the style I'm after < 1456780450 168297 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my immediate goal is to complete them and add a support for semi-automatic GPOS < 1456780460 894290 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then* I'll continue working on extended latin... < 1456780465 710355 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, do you have it in something machine-readable-ish? < 1456780481 399833 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm generating this program using Haskell) < 1456780560 402283 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1456780611 512414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can give you the bdf version, that one is easy to read, especially as this one uses fixed offsets and sizes encoded for all glyphs. < 1456780632 137107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a spec for bdf by Adobe or Apple or something somewhere, but you can probably figure it out without < 1456780640 405003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me put the bdf up < 1456780645 885230 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, thanks! :) < 1456780671 965353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the pcf contains all the info but is compressed properly) < 1456780745 859949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.bdf < 1456780776 571537 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1456780837 52243 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, thanks a lot < 1456780849 539786 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need to read this using Haskell and write it as brainfuck! < 1456780876 478775 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously that version is very wasteful, you can compress it quite well < 1456780924 644624 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1456781058 394775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Fpetrola 5* 10New user account < 1456781107 507432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46472&oldid=46471 5* 03Fpetrola 5* (+11) 10 < 1456781189 803771 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not hugely worried about compression < 1456781214 85215 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: can I put in suggestions about the font? < 1456781222 40371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, wishlist ones < 1456781223 942030 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as always. file an issue. < 1456781239 433306 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should have used an issue tracker in that way, btw < 1456781240 146329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, file issue where? just here on the channel? < 1456781246 846675 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ < 1456781251 41082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1456781282 518292 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have my own internal wishlist but I haven't used an issue tracker for that project yet < 1456781284 876448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see, I think I have a login for this thing < 1456781324 552499 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Humo14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46473 5* 03Fpetrola 5* (+1518) 10Created page with "Humo is a programming language with a tiny interpreter implementation and the smallest set of operations for an imperative programming language. This is an experimental langua..." < 1456781329 995504 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you happen to hate github, feel free to say it here instead < 1456781343 517726 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try on github, but if I mess up with the github interface, sorry < 1456781357 854854 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, tons of greasemonkey scripts? < 1456781423 208853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, is there supposed to be some ticket metadatathing there, like type (eg. bug, feature request, task), priority (urgency), severity, etc? < 1456781434 718667 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github default, ignore them < 1456781434 852227 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do I just write the text and that's all? < 1456781437 152702 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1456781443 401601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1456781838 248307 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1456781929 748099 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uekqylqqemdcagpf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1456782421 92613 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably reading in the font now! :D < 1456783104 652080 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456783658 237000 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/CPAuNjy.jpg < 1456783660 866757 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going well! < 1456783681 426336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Taneb < 1456783686 745678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1456783687 262735 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure why I took a photo rather than a screenshot < 1456783728 39856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the esoteric way < 1456783750 23864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to take a screenshot, print it out, and take a photo of that. < 1456783828 545737 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1456783854 762471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote shachaf: different notation. -o is logical or in find, but it's linear implication in linear logic < 1456783860 52934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1269) shachaf: different notation. -o is logical or in find, but it's linear implication in linear logic < 1456783886 544659 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1456784054 977844 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1456784323 531010 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-69.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1456784401 43603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: put it in a word document and email that, then print the email, fax it, but wait, you have to involve MS Paint in there somewhere too < 1456784475 981711 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\0x11235" < 1456784477 288419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : x11235 < 1456784481 9582 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1456784486 277868 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\x11235" < 1456784487 537539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 𑈵 < 1456784494 856718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1456784495 880077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1456784502 185857 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𑈵 < 1456784505 588414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+11235 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 91 88 b5 UTF-16BE: d804de35 Decimal: 𑈵 \ 𑈵 (𑈵) \ Uppercase: U+11235 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1456784511 314394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my terminal isn't messed up. < 1456784543 91481 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure < 1456784557 103541 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode 𑈵 < 1456784558 295098 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+11235 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 91 88 b5 UTF-16BE: d804de35 Decimal: 𑈵 \ 𑈵 (𑈵) \ Uppercase: U+11235 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1456784632 698721 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates how hard it is to choose text inside a link < 1456784656 25705 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's supposedly KHOJKI SIGN VIRAMA < 1456784676 965501 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*select < 1456785207 733877 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've... I've generated a broken, 1.1MiB brainfuck program < 1456785222 198668 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it win < 1456785226 452341 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1456785229 471871 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1456785235 365487 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, the judging is not until Wednesday < 1456785238 981046 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1456785242 383933 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: look for the error < 1456785248 471787 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with myname < 1456785327 739397 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you submit it to? < 1456785479 674784 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uni's electronics society < 1456785505 355795 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may say "Do you mind if I give you this on a USB because I don't really want to put it in izabera's pastebin website < 1456785507 723141 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1456785531 960403 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1456785558 345876 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah what kind of shitty pastebin can't handle a few megabytes < 1456785565 314087 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1456785568 826186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see https://github.com/isomorphism/Delineate/blob/master/Control/Delineate.hs hth < 1456785580 381738 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1456785624 922102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish cmccann was still around so i could ask him about it < 1456785644 921631 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's my clipboard that I'm worried about < 1456785648 523068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- Given "A ⅋ B" either A or B is true, but you get to "decide" which is true by providing a counterexample for the other, where the counterexample may be (and often is) used in the computation that produces the final result. It's probably not as confusing as it sounds. Possibly." < 1456786063 367601 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1456786118 303329 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Changing host < 1456786118 437022 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/oswg-member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1456786342 295435 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Changing host < 1456786342 466445 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1456786610 48139 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1456786905 970815 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am guessing there's nothing enforcing that those definitions actually use each parameter once... < 1456786959 988849 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, in a sense it's classical logic (by rampant double negation) with programmer discipline. < 1456786978 915608 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/with/+/ < 1456787058 103175 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hobily < 1456787081 721584 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know it takes a long time for a JavaScript emulator to run a 10000 line brainfuck program < 1456787099 736561 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i know < 1456787909 37464 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unexpected! i thought emulating bf would be in o(n) < 1456787920 595112 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note the small o) < 1456788752 517581 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan, Tanelle, mynamello. < 1456788844 941712 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Québécois income tax are fun! < 1456788922 392809 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tax is not a plural noun, boily < 1456789158 307950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluralses are complicated :P < 1456789161 948087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't get a choice about taxes? < 1456789342 882375 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taxes aren't really known to be about choice. < 1456789403 19200 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456789429 485680 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1456789466 522541 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456789616 971845 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1456789765 325138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whoa whoa whoa, canadian tax rates are p. high < 1456789810 740576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe us tax rates are low < 1456789817 291476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually maybe they're more similar than i thought < 1456789977 805487 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we pay provincial and federal taxes, with different forms! about half my pay disappears into our Great Government. < 1456789997 168731 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it's time for poutine. and/or pizza. < 1456790008 169470 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHECKED CHICKEN < 1456790049 391207 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1456790074 252186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily pizza must be poutine its place < 1456790074 385626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1456790081 847779 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1456790097 46702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION groans < 1456790151 705299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e < 1456790158 109796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1456790161 341933 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1456790164 247933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 292331Z 22013KT 7SM -SN DRSN FEW013 BKN030 OVC090 M01/M02 A2958 RMK SF2SC5AC1 SLP019 \ ENVA 292350Z 09006KT CAVOK M04/M08 Q1017 RMK WIND 670FT 14012KT \ ESSB 292350Z AUTO 19003KT 9999 NCD M03/M07 Q1027 \ KOAK 292353Z 29009KT 10SM FEW140 SCT200 22/08 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP197 T02170078 10222 20144 56020 < 1456790187 356383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it hurts me to look at this output < 1456790339 775512 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1456790359 998251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What if it just showed the temperature?