00:00:25 or is it your perception that's limited 00:00:41 four simultaneous expansions in a single rotation of the glob 00:03:30 Phantom_Hoover: Yes 00:03:52 rm -rf /* is IDIOT LIES 00:04:16 Phantom_Hoover: It would match glob or some extension thereof, and it would replace the matched globbiness with something else. I'm asking if there's a common syntax for that something else. 00:04:21 If there isn't, I have work to do 00:05:01 Phantom_Hoover: I don't want a more powerful glob, I want to reapply glob to other domains of use 00:05:59 you asked me what traditional variants on globs can do and i told you, not much! 00:06:29 Phantom_Hoover: Ah 00:08:38 tromp: I guess your encoding isn't what I wrote. 00:09:24 You do (\x -> (\y -> ...x...y...) yexpr) xexpr 00:09:35 Which makes a lot more snese in retrospect. 00:09:59 it doesn't make snes to me 00:10:15 I meant famicom, of course. 00:14:25 it makes zero famicom to me: i cant lambda 00:20:20 right; shachaf; your example cannot result from let expansion 00:20:57 Fair enough. 00:28:55 [wiki] [[N--]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46997&oldid=46996 * Moon * (+16) 00:32:59 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:33:23 -!- centrinia has joined. 00:48:57 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:54:53 -!- APic has joined. 01:03:16 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:22:31 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:23:22 Anyone wana try writeing something in N--? 01:24:32 where's the N-- tutorial? 01:25:45 Its a stub still: http://esolangs.org/wiki/N-- 01:25:54 Unqiue language i beleive 01:28:04 Like the concept tromp? 01:28:14 sorry, not really:( 01:28:23 Oh 01:28:26 I like it :P 01:28:35 Because Nand is universal 01:28:36 enough to write an interpreter for it? 01:28:43 No 01:28:52 Im going to make a intepreter later 01:29:19 a language should be able to handle input:) 01:29:25 Eh true 01:29:30 I might change that 01:29:36 But the timing would have to be good 01:29:45 as io would be single char buffers 01:29:52 what is nand 'H' 'e' ? 01:30:28 [wiki] [[N--]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46998&oldid=46997 * Moon * (+41) 01:30:41 your sample is no good at demonstrating all your language features 01:30:50 Its a hello world :P 01:31:03 im gonna make more 01:32:26 <\oren\> https://youtu.be/GaRJMCpoVFg 01:32:33 Naa:ab:acNac:1:ad is a and gate 01:32:55 aa and ab are input, ad is out 01:33:00 ac is intermediate 01:34:11 N-- is more of a hardware description language than a programming language:) 01:34:33 Lol true 01:34:39 But it is designed to be intepreted 01:35:04 Making it Esoteric :P 01:38:13 it's somewhat lacking in elegance thought:( 01:38:17 though 01:38:27 to put it mildly:) 01:39:01 i was aiming for uniqueness in this case 01:47:34 hi 01:49:19 Hia quin, im writing an intepreter for N-- 01:49:26 oh good 01:49:49 next you could write a N-- to Purple compiler ;) 01:50:36 ? 01:50:57 Bit hard :P 01:51:11 N-- is based on universal logic gates, jumps, and variables 01:51:12 thats it 01:51:13 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 01:51:16 hia hppa 01:51:25 Im making a interpreter for N-- 01:51:30 Purple is based on decrementation and assignment 01:51:34 both are turing-complete 01:51:41 should be possible to translate between 01:52:31 I dont think N-- is turing complete, it cant do turing tapes 01:52:43 due to a max of 676 (aa to zz) variables 01:53:00 A bf inplentation would use most of them 01:53:40 it can store arbitrarily large numbers though 01:53:46 my concern is that it can't do unbounded addition 01:53:54 i dont know. 01:54:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:54:02 your only operator is nand 01:54:08 Mhm 01:54:17 Nand is a universal logic gate 01:54:21 so you have no way to set any bit higher than the highest bit set by any constant assignment 01:54:48 not in this context 01:55:06 you can never Nand the first bit of one variable with the second, say, of another 01:55:45 n-- may be useless but its intresting 01:56:26 I think it would be TC if you added a "left-shift 1" or "increment by 1" operator 01:56:43 Ah, kk 01:57:00 Think about it and i may add it :P 01:57:35 the finite number of variables does not prevent a language from being TC as long as they can have unbounded value 01:57:45 BF, for instance, needs only 3 cells to be TC 01:57:48 I will probs to left shift and make nand operate on one set of two bits (the first ones) at a time, is that TC? 01:58:11 you'd have to be more specific 01:58:55 Like take two 4 bit values: 1010 and 0101, Lshift them and nand, and only the bits currently in first would be operated on if a condition is set 01:59:25 -!- ybden has quit (Quit: Excess flood). 01:59:28 I don't follow... 01:59:48 left shift them both, then NAND? 01:59:58 what do you mean "only the bits currently in first"? 02:00:11 The first bit of each value 02:00:28 so like the result in that case would be 10000? 02:00:41 intuitively I suspect that isn't enough for TC. But I'm not sure! 02:00:44 No, a new variable would be changed 02:00:53 The third operator for nand 02:01:02 operand, you mean? 02:01:06 -!- jaboja64 has joined. 02:01:08 Yea, :P 02:01:09 anyway, you should try to prove your language TC on your own 02:01:11 it's a good exercise 02:01:30 kk 02:01:33 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:03:17 does C have bitsets? 02:03:49 no 02:03:49 Nope 02:03:52 KK then 02:03:57 Time to write a alternative 02:04:00 C++ does 02:04:04 Moon_: a$b 02:08:11 what hppavilion[2]? 02:08:28 Moon_: $ is mingle. Though you might find it interesting. 02:08:42 * Moon_ doesnt get it 02:09:13 Moon_: INTERCAL 02:09:41 oh 02:10:26 [wiki] [[N--]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46999&oldid=46998 * Moon * (+198) Major modifications to the specifications 02:13:24 gnight 02:14:16 you can be TC with just 2 instructions, ri++, and ri--,jump 02:17:59 -!- Moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:19:37 tromp: ri++ needs to have a target; you need at least two registers to point at 02:20:16 yeah, ++ has one target, -- has two 02:20:40 but each instr only refers to one reg 02:21:03 [wiki] [[Piet]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47000&oldid=46786 * Timwi * (-73) /* Computational class */ 02:21:55 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-machine_model#1961:_Minsky.27s_model_of_a_partial_recursive_function_reduced_to_a_.22program.22_of_only_two_instructions 02:27:25 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:42:03 -!- oerjan has joined. 02:47:36 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 02:48:00 -!- tromp_ has joined. 02:52:11 @tell phantom_hoover you do need to do
to do single-line breaks in mediawiki <-- yes but you don't use _only_
s. 02:52:11 Consider it noted. 02:52:31 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:55:12 -!- variable has joined. 03:01:41 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 03:01:44 -!- tromp_ has joined. 03:02:00 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -b *!earendel@unaffiliated/earendel. 03:02:09 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +b *!earendel@*. 03:02:17 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 03:04:50 -!- Elronnd has changed nick to constant. 03:04:58 -!- constant has changed nick to Elronnd. 03:05:02 There's 61 umlbox processes all fighting for CPU time. <-- maybe that'll teach b_jonas not to spam it hth 03:05:10 Elronnd: wat 03:05:31 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 03:05:57 the world is constantly changing. 03:06:40 oerjan: thing from a different channel 03:07:19 `? #esoteric 03:08:05 ​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it's slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. 03:08:18 Elronnd: i'm sorry but that's heretical, see above 03:08:58 * oerjan practices waving his cane ======O 03:09:14 wait, is that the wrong end 03:09:15 oerjan: okay, I did it for my own personal edification 03:09:45 oerjan: i recommend either s/After/Now that/ or s/'s/ became/ hth 03:10:26 Oh, the "centröid" thing was about boily's question. 03:10:38 @tell boily you haven't asked people about their whereabouts in quite a while 03:10:38 Consider it noted. 03:11:46 `` sed -i "s/'s/ became/" wisdom/#esoteric 03:12:03 No output. 03:12:16 i feel that monqy has been gone too long for a "Now that" 03:12:28 `? #esoteric 03:12:30 ​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. 03:12:33 Nowadays, in monqy's absence, 03:12:43 he didnt even appear this night 03:13:21 indeed, i'm still stuck on m 03:13:44 I should make norwoerjan porridge. 03:13:56 I don't remember the ingredients. Was rice involved? 03:14:02 Sour cream? Milk? Cinnamon? Raisins? 03:15:57 not all at the same time, you are mixing two different types. 03:16:10 which was the type you recommended 03:16:28 skip the sour cream and the rest is good. 03:16:48 But I like sour cream. 03:16:49 also add some sprinkled sugar. 03:16:55 What kind of sugar? 03:17:21 I guess I can follow http://thecountrybasket.com/risengrot-riskrem-recipe/ ? 03:17:29 in that case skip the rice, cinnamon (maybe? i'm a bit vague there) and raisins, but still add sugar. 03:18:03 that's with rice. 03:18:15 you don't mix rice and sour cream, that i know of. 03:18:20 Do you use vanilla powder? 03:19:14 shachaf: hm it's not standard but i'm not sure that it would hurt 03:19:24 That's what that link says. 03:19:44 This is sounding a lot like a rice pudding. 03:19:46 But apparently it's hard to get outside of Norway. 03:19:56 ah yes, that picture also has the traditional red juice. 03:20:02 Ah, that's exactly because it is. 03:20:30 Red juice? 03:20:36 Is that made from the blood of your enemies? 03:21:01 shachaf: e.g. raspberries, very devious little monsters 03:21:28 `? oerjan 03:21:30 Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 03:21:38 i'm not exactly sure of the proper form of red juice. there are brands... 03:22:20 -!- MDude has joined. 03:24:02 `learn Raspberries are oerjan's mortal enemy. 03:24:06 Learned 'raspberrie': Raspberries are oerjan's mortal enemy. 03:24:11 blue longonblackraspboysenberry sauce 03:24:25 oop 03:24:37 blue lingonblackraspboysenberry sauce 03:24:40 oerjan: wow, that wisdom entry name is kind of scow 03:24:46 it's a pity you're retired, isn't it 03:24:49 no one will fix it now 03:25:26 `rm wisdom/raspberrie 03:25:30 No output. 03:25:35 it's a blatant lie, anyway. 03:26:16 -!- jaboja64 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 03:27:24 * oerjan disagrees with the claim riskrem is only used for christmas and new year. 03:28:02 those are the riskiest times of the year, though 03:28:08 you need all the riskrem you can get 03:28:10 pikhq: note that that page talks about two different dishes, one of which is a prestage to the other. 03:28:46 shachaf: deeply true, that. 03:31:00 `? canaima 03:31:04 Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're here. 03:31:13 oerjan: a canaiman joined and parted another channel i'm in 03:31:16 v. mysterious 03:31:35 v. 03:31:47 hmm, i didn't intend "canaiman" to imply a gender 03:32:11 shachaf: oh i note the advice about heavy bottom. that's important, and also to stir enough. otherwise it burns easily. 03:32:51 i didn't interpret it to, hth 03:33:19 can ai man save the world? tune in next week to find out 03:34:16 hmm. i read it as "a person from canaim" 03:34:53 i,ii we're canaimaniacs 03:34:55 hm an hour. back when i actually made this stuff i used a quicker rice brand that only takes 1/4 hour or so. but i guess that might be hard to get outside norway too. 03:35:12 and probably not as good, anyway. 03:35:39 canaima is actually a geographical place name, too 03:35:41 perhaps i should go to norway and try the famous tronheimanian pizza 03:35:51 ...OKAY 03:36:01 trondheimanian 03:36:01 we call it rice dream. it dont have milk 03:40:25 -!- Naraka has joined. 03:43:58 -!- jaboja has joined. 03:44:53 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:45:14 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 03:53:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 04:03:40 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:05:06 <\oren\> https://youtu.be/5-l0K9Dp7eI 04:05:31 <\oren\> ᴴᴰ【東方Vocal】Halozy|Say Hello To Me【Vo. 長尾ちえみ 】 04:05:31 <\oren\> 2016ᴴᴰJxL Subtitles 04:05:32 <\oren\> 2016ᴴᴰJxL Subtitles 04:07:14 <\oren\> I like his use of ᴴᴰ 04:11:01 [wiki] [[Unnecessary]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47001&oldid=41482 * 94.223.139.176 * (-4) /* Interpreter */ I'm pretty sure this is what was meant 04:13:34 @tell hppavilion[1] I think we could triple the topic's entertainingness [...] <-- itym overdo it to the point where i lose interest hth 04:13:34 Consider it noted. 04:15:18 it's already overdone hth 04:16:40 shachaf: well he _did_ implement his bad suggestion. 04:17:28 well it was overdone a long time ago 04:17:40 not to the point where _i_ lost interest. 04:17:57 you think everything's overdone from the start, anyway >:P 04:18:58 -!- oerjan has set topic: The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | R.I.P. Overdone city meme.. 04:19:10 -!- oerjan has set topic: The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | R.I.P. Overdone City Meme.. 04:19:12 oerjan: true 04:19:17 i prefer my meat extra-rare 04:19:26 uncooked and alive is optimal 04:19:50 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:20:14 itt shachaf proves he's a zombie 04:20:48 sprø søm sellerɨ 04:21:08 `unidecode ɨ 04:21:10 ​[U+0268 LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH STROKE] 04:23:05 ipa-only letters are scow 04:23:47 sełłeri 04:24:34 bëtter 04:25:09 scøw som selleri 04:25:23 `? ørjan 04:25:31 ​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. 04:25:58 how many twins do you have 04:26:13 an uncountable amount. 04:27:59 `learn אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. 04:28:04 Learned 'אrjan': אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. 04:28:38 You're using א, not ℵ? 04:28:42 i'm sure boily will appreciate this wisdom. 04:28:51 what now 04:29:01 `unidecode ℵ 04:29:03 ​[U+2135 ALEF SYMBOL] 04:29:13 `unidecode א 04:29:14 ​[U+05D0 HEBREW LETTER ALEF] 04:29:22 DAMN YOU UNICODE 04:29:29 The latter is RTL. 04:29:50 i cannot even see the ℵ 04:30:04 Oh. Then stick with the א, I guess. 04:31:56 `le/rn lem/Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle. 04:32:00 Learned «lem» 04:39:12 `? trurl 04:39:14 trurl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 04:39:32 * oerjan is slightly surprised there was no Lem wisdom 04:39:54 there's still no good lem wisdom 04:39:56 `? łem 04:39:57 so feel free to jam it up 04:39:58 ​łem? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 04:42:25 @ask fizzie I didn't get home in time to see the first Eurovision semi-final live. :/ <-- does this mean you will now be shunned by your people like lifthrasiir is? 04:42:25 Consider it noted. 04:45:56 @ask hppavilion[1] Some sort of hybrid between a Star Wars reference, some xkcd jokes, and a reference that no one will ever get to this specific channel <-- by any chance, are you planning to fail this assignment? 04:45:56 Consider it noted. 05:18:52 -!- TellsTogo has joined. 05:41:28 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:46:57 -!- constant has changed nick to function. 06:14:56 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 06:16:15 oerjan: :( 06:16:48 -!- function has quit (Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero). 06:20:15 *MWAHAHAHA* 06:22:05 `? oerjan 06:22:35 Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 06:22:47 hmm, i thought you weren't evil anymore 06:22:51 `` ps aux | paste 06:22:56 but it must've been something else 06:23:08 i'm no longer infamous hth 06:23:17 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.9358 06:23:18 you have too many adjectives 06:23:19 don't have the time for all the PR 06:23:25 why don't you offload a few to ørjan 06:23:30 i didn't add most of them. perhaps none. 06:23:30 I guess he's outfamous now 06:24:55 i guess that's just sandbox processes. 06:25:31 you should figure out a way to become root so we can see non-sandbox processes 06:27:10 i'm just wondering with this talk of heaps of umlbox processes whether it would help if fizzie rebooted it 06:41:56 -!- tromp_ has joined. 06:46:28 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 07:03:00 -!- rdococ has joined. 07:43:43 -!- tromp_ has joined. 07:48:19 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:06:26 ... 08:06:28 http://xkcdsw.com/443 makes me happy 08:14:25 [wiki] [[Rs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47002&oldid=44324 * Timwi * (+20) testing 08:14:36 [wiki] [[Rs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47003&oldid=47002 * Timwi * (-24) Worked! 08:16:14 hppavilion[2], why? 08:46:28 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Timwi * uploaded "[[File:Efghij — Belmandel function.jpg]]": The Belmandel function in [[efghij]]. 08:47:05 [wiki] [[Efghij]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47005 * Timwi * (+3310) A new esolang: everyday food, garden & home item jenga 08:52:04 [wiki] [[Efghij]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47006&oldid=47005 * Timwi * (+37) 08:52:52 [wiki] [[Efghij]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47007&oldid=47006 * Timwi * (+8) 08:53:26 [wiki] [[Efghij]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47008&oldid=47007 * Timwi * (+23) 09:00:27 [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Timwi * moved [[File:Efghij — Belmandel function.jpg]] to [[File:Efghij — BelMandel function.jpg]] 09:00:29 [wiki] [[Efghij]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47011&oldid=47008 * Timwi * (+0) 09:03:00 -!- zadock has joined. 09:05:36 a most excellent esolang. 09:14:15 [wiki] [[Talk:Efghij]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47012 * Oerjan * (+226) A must for the handy programmer 09:17:22 "Twitter user shachaf points out to me (why he didn’t just post this here, I don’t know) [...]" 09:17:35 * oerjan whistles innocently 09:17:41 ugh 09:17:55 I was trying to keep my name out of the comments. :-( 09:17:58 YOU CANNOT ESCAPE 09:19:55 i guess when you start your axe murder career it's important not to have your reputation sullied with this academic stuff. 09:20:27 * oerjan considers doing something less evil -> 09:20:46 My tactic of posting a public twit and then deleting it after it's read isn't as effective as I'd hoped. 09:20:50 -!- zadock has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:21:05 Because people's replies don't get deleted. 09:21:21 makes you look a bit like a twat, maybe? 09:21:53 @wn twat 09:21:55 *** "twat" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 09:21:55 twat 09:21:55 n 1: a man who is a stupid incompetent fool [syn: {fathead}, 09:21:55 {goof}, {goofball}, {bozo}, {jackass}, {goose}, {cuckoo}, 09:21:55 {twat}, {zany}] 09:21:57 2: obscene terms for female genitals [syn: {cunt}, {puss}, 09:21:59 {pussy}, {slit}, {snatch}, {twat}] 09:22:18 apparently that's a bit obscene but it's for a punny cause 09:22:35 @wn twit 09:22:36 *** "twit" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 09:22:36 twit 09:22:36 n 1: someone who is regarded as contemptible [syn: {twerp}, 09:22:36 {twirp}, {twit}] 09:22:36 2: aggravation by deriding or mocking or criticizing [syn: 09:22:38 [7 @more lines] 09:23:23 lesson for next time: don't modify vowels unnecessarily. 09:23:53 erm, sorry 09:23:57 but isn't that how you make puns 09:24:15 yes, but this time it wasn't strictly needed 09:38:00 so "number of turing machines of size n that halt" is uncomputable, of course 09:38:04 does it have a name? 09:39:25 dunno 09:40:14 You know 09:40:16 sglob is TC 09:40:27 (kind of, sort of, I guess) 09:43:26 -!- tromp_ has joined. 09:43:52 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 09:47:57 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:53:33 -!- jix has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:54:01 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:56:52 -!- jix has joined. 10:15:50 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:47:03 -!- rdococ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:47:46 -!- rdococ has joined. 11:01:10 -!- Akaibu has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 11:11:39 -!- Naraka has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:29:53 -!- boily has joined. 11:42:06 shachaf: hellochaf. how did you know that raspberries were antioerjannic? 11:47:38 @massages-loud 11:47:39 shachaf said 8h 37m ago: you haven't asked people about their whereabouts in quite a while 11:47:39 shachaf said 8h 36m 42s ago: (please don't @messages-loud the previous message twh) 11:48:01 what? 11:48:07 Good thing you @massages-loud it instead 11:48:08 I love raspberries 11:48:14 That could have been embarassing 11:48:28 August is my favourite month because it's raspberry season 11:48:45 Tanelle. bad habit on my part >_>'... 11:49:05 @tell shachaf sorry v_v... 11:49:05 Consider it noted. 11:49:35 b_jellonas. there's a raspberry season? 11:49:45 boily: yes. it's longer than one month, but yes. 12:03:57 is there a minimal implementation of public key crypto? 12:04:59 doesn't have to be strong (something like rot13 order of magnitude), just reasonably display the concept of. 12:08:11 libtom 12:11:38 izabellora. 12:11:43 `thanks izabera 12:11:48 hola 12:12:10 Thanks, izabera. Thizabera. 12:16:26 -!- boily has quit (Quit: HOURLY CHICKEN). 12:19:30 -!- ybden has joined. 12:37:40 @tell boily I'm sure I've seen at least a couple of minimal samples using just a bignum library to illustrate the basic RSA idea. 12:37:40 Consider it noted. 12:44:54 -!- tromp_ has joined. 12:49:15 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:05:04 -!- ybden has quit (Quit: leaving). 13:05:48 -!- ybden has joined. 13:11:17 -!- Caesura has joined. 13:27:28 -!- TellsTogo has quit (Quit: Page closed). 14:08:15 -!- TellsTogo has joined. 14:19:33 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:41:40 -!- nycs has joined. 14:44:05 -!- jaboja has joined. 14:48:09 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:17:08 -!- Akaibu has joined. 15:25:05 -!- heroux has joined. 15:31:45 -!- tromp_ has joined. 15:36:12 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:01:23 -!- Sgeo has joined. 16:18:15 -!- spiette has joined. 17:09:37 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 17:17:37 shachaf: Um, the number of turing machines of size n that halt is infinite; you can make a TM arbitrarily large by just using bigger parts. hth. 17:17:43 * hppavilion[2] hopes that put got across 17:17:52 `nick hppavilion[1] 17:17:56 -!- hppavilion[2] has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 17:18:22 s/put/pun/ 17:18:40 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nick: not found 17:20:07 -!- Reece` has joined. 17:26:50 hppavillion your "bigger parts" doesn't make any sense 17:27:56 tromp: The joke is that you make the TM physically larger 17:28:22 My new xkcd headcannon: Web substitution "webcomic" -> "web standard" 17:28:25 bad joke:( bigger TMs doesn't make for more TMs:( 17:36:07 "searching" -> "grepping" 17:43:02 your joke doesn't work hth 17:45:33 Taneb: and why don't you like gauss 18:27:04 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:28:10 -!- Naraka has joined. 18:31:43 Naraka: after i learned a few years ago what it means, i find your nick disturbing 18:32:10 <3 18:33:03 that was not meant as a compliment. 18:33:18 is it NSFW? 18:33:27 oerjan: why do you have such a problem with this particular thing 18:33:30 more like NSFL. 18:33:55 wonderful 18:33:56 you had a similar objection a few days ago if i remember correctly 18:34:08 and that's why my nick has two ps 18:34:42 shachaf: yes. it's because i am superstitious hth 18:34:59 i actually think it's a bad omen when things like that suddenly show up. 18:36:32 so, since Naraka showed up just as i joined the channel, it's like a sign that _i_ need to leave. 18:36:56 but you didn't and look what happened 18:37:04 shachaf, reasons 18:37:07 now this channel has you in it. you've ruined everything 18:37:34 coppro: maybe all you atheists here will negate the effect now that i've mentioned it. i can only hope. 18:37:41 * oerjan cackles madly. 18:38:44 There's only so many things in life which money can buy. 18:39:09 It sure is good that sex is one of those things. 18:39:26 I'm going to pretend that naraka is an uncertain answer to "where are the deer?" 18:39:49 * oerjan slightly suspects Naraka of being hagb4rd and doing this on purpose _because_ i reacted to that H3LL guy. 18:39:56 Taneb: and there i was thinking it was only an hopeless fancy 18:40:32 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:40:50 except he'd never be that subtle. never mind. 18:40:55 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:43:03 shachaf, I have an exam on Saturday that is Coding theory... and also Gaussian networks? 18:43:20 shachaf: i also obsessively push the "don't show me this" button on every reddit ad containing skulls. :P 18:44:03 you may or may not recall me having to work around a bug in those a couple years ago... 18:44:58 Every time you smile in the mirror... 18:45:16 coppro: that would be rather unfortunate for the deer. 18:46:08 oerjan: hm i was going to say a thing that would be sort of making fun of you but maybe i oughtn't 18:46:12 hth 18:46:39 Taneb: so how's DF going ;P 18:46:57 oerjan, I've been too busy playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 18:47:47 Taneb: why not train simulator 18:48:00 Because I haven't installed it 18:48:30 @metar ENVA 18:48:31 ENVA 111720Z 25011KT CAVOK 15/02 Q1015 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 29006KT 18:48:37 -!- tromp_ has joined. 18:49:22 Naraka: i'm just happy i don't _really_ see anything in mirrors when i get in that mood. 18:53:01 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:59:11 * oerjan hopes he'll get less crazy when his sleeping rhythm returns to a more comfortable phase. 18:59:20 Taneb: There's no Finland expansion kit for Euro Truck Simulator 2. :/ 18:59:50 The "Scandinavia" DLC covers Denmark, Norway and Sweden, while the Eastern Europe pack is too south. 19:00:02 Denmark is not Scandinavia! 19:00:37 Sadly, it is. 19:00:47 fizzie: hi. do you think a reboot of HackEgo might help some? 19:01:18 err no wait 19:01:27 fizzie: damn you knowing more about where you live 19:01:33 fizzie, I've mostly been playing in the UK and once in the Netherlands 19:01:37 I'm not much good 19:01:50 oerjan: Maybe, but I don't actually know how to start it. I could putz around later, I guess. 19:02:27 i guess not getting up again would be a problem. 19:02:58 (Denmark's not part of the Scandinavian Peninsula, though.) 19:03:56 Taneb: I don't even have the game, I've just coveted it once or twice. 19:04:51 Taneb: Oh, you were in .nl? 19:04:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 19:05:00 shachaf, once 19:05:31 And you spent that one time playing Euro Truck Simulator 2? 19:06:42 YES 19:06:54 Very loudly I think 19:21:56 -!- gremlins has joined. 19:22:04 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:23:29 -!- Reece` has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:27:11 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 19:31:26 -!- Reece` has joined. 19:32:15 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 19:33:22 Taneb, that is, uh, not the normal way to spend time on a trip to amsterdam 19:33:24 -!- gremlins has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:33:47 Phantom_Hoover, either that or shachaf misparsed my sentence 19:35:06 -!- copumpkin has joined. 19:38:11 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:41:21 -!- gamemanj has joined. 19:52:28 Taneb: you make it sound like an accident 19:56:40 -!- impomatic has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:57:16 -!- impomatic has joined. 20:00:02 -!- rdococ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:01:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:21:00 -!- gremlins has joined. 20:21:49 -!- Reece` has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:37:34 -!- gremlins has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:41:32 <\oren\> does euro truck simulator simulate people trying to sneak a ride on your truck? 20:41:47 is that common? 20:41:54 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 20:42:19 <\oren\> i've heard that it is 20:42:38 meh, always the same with click&point adventures... missing something to interact with. 20:45:15 Take a *n?x utility (e.g glob, grep, sed, cat) 20:45:26 Replace one letter (consonant -> consonant, vowel to vowel) 20:45:27 <\oren\> oh apparently tyeres a "trouble at calais" mod for it lolololol 20:45:36 Get another *n?x utility 20:45:40 Example: 20:45:45 gleb = extended glob 20:45:54 @messages-lud 20:45:55 oerjan said 16h 32m 20s ago: I think we could triple the topic's entertainingness [...] <-- itym overdo it to the point where i lose interest hth 20:45:55 oerjan asked 15h 59m 58s ago: Some sort of hybrid between a Star Wars reference, some xkcd jokes, and a reference that no one will ever get to this specific channel <-- by any chance, are you planning to fail this assignment? 20:50:06 quintopia: it is nowadays... 20:50:15 @tell oerjan I have really cool teacher, so... 20:50:15 Consider it noted. 20:50:43 Unless the BBC are just making stuff up, which is possible (if improbable) 20:52:18 gamemanj: have people forgotten how to *ask* for a hitchhike? 20:52:31 POP QUIZ: How many handy numbers do you have? 20:53:33 1024+ 20:54:55 quintopia: Well, the thing is, the people who sneak rides on trucks aren't supposed to be going to their destination. 20:57:05 ...not that it stops them. 20:58:06 you mean like refugees and escaped prisoners? 20:58:27 is the truck driver complicit? 20:59:32 No, the truck driver's the unfortunate victim, AFAIK. 21:00:07 By which "unfortunate victim" meaning "has people attempting to get onto their truck, which the driver does not want on their truck". 21:22:56 -!- nycs has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 21:40:47 -!- gamemanj has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:44:55 "The C and C++ compilers now emit saner error messages if merge-conflict markers are present in a source file -- test.c:3:1: error: version control conflict marker in file" (GCC 6) 21:44:59 V. fancy. 21:45:34 "-Wmisleading-indentation warns about places where the indentation of the code gives a misleading idea of the block structure of the code to a human reader." 21:45:37 Even fancier. 21:59:58 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:07:04 -!- Moon_ has joined. 22:09:08 hia 22:15:04 -!- Moon__ has joined. 22:15:09 pc died 22:16:19 -!- Moon_ has quit. 22:17:09 r.i.p. 22:18:19 -!- centrinia has joined. 22:18:35 :p 22:19:15 i spent a bit of my time recently devising _yet another language_ im not gonna post it on the wiki, however 22:22:04 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 22:24:13 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:24:59 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GeKlAmG19bGzWHTwrSu8tOoGHbpcdqJNScoFF7LLm-s/edit?usp=docslist_api 22:25:34 This air freshener spray "kills odour, causing bacteria at the source". (Punctuation added.) 22:25:52 Heh 22:26:28 bad print job or company messup 22:27:43 https://www.ocado.com/productImages/513/51391011_0_640x640.jpg 22:28:00 Lol 22:28:32 {{_% 22:29:40 {{$_@% i ment 22:31:02 `unidecode 👼 22:31:27 U+1F47C BABY ANGEL \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 bc UTF-16BE: d83ddc7c Decimal: 👼 \ 👼 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 22:32:03 https://www.instagram.com/olganoskovaa/ 22:34:02 Hey, i had an idea. 22:34:31 why not make a language that uses a data tree for storing information 22:36:55 bindun 22:37:30 heck, hexagony goes one further, stores data in the line graph of a hexagonal grid 22:41:28 fizzie: A dash would make it so much better 22:41:50 OH MY GOD 22:41:54 ANONYMOUS WALRUS IS ONLINE 22:41:58 WHY COULD THAT NOT BE ME!? 22:43:07 because you're a failed villain? 22:44:56 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Arborealis has a tree. 22:45:10 Someone here on the channel had a more recent tree thing as well. 22:45:20 Somewhere during the last two years or so, I think. 22:47:40 Regular expressions... Irregular expressions... Degenerate expressions... 22:47:42 `words 22:47:49 (Okay, Arborealis *calls* it a tree, but it has commands for making cycles, which is pretty untreelike.) 22:48:08 fizzie: Yeah. It's a tree-with-rootback, which isn't a tree 22:48:16 `cat bin/coins 22:48:23 vita 22:48:23 words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords 22:49:26 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Treehugger is the recent one I was thinking of, it's more pure. 22:49:27 `cat bin/exps 22:49:30 cat: bin/exps: No such file or directory 22:49:37 `` echo "words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords" > bin/exps 22:49:40 Wait 22:49:44 No output. 22:49:48 Dammit, quotes 22:49:54 `cat bin/exps 22:49:56 words echo "words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords" > bin/exps | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords 22:50:00 Oh, it worked 22:50:02 `exps 22:50:03 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/exps: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/exps: cannot execute: Permission denied 22:50:06 Dammit 22:50:13 Forgot about mkx 22:50:27 Gg 22:50:47 `mkx bin/exps//words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords" > bin/exps | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords 22:50:50 bin/exps 22:50:52 `exps 22:50:55 ​/hackenv/bin/exps: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/exps: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file 22:50:58 FUUU 22:51:16 You, uh, left a bit of a thing in there. 22:51:21 Yeah 22:51:22 I noticed 22:51:40 `mkx bin/exps//words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords 22:51:43 bin/exps 22:51:51 `exps 22:52:02 It's interesting how esolangs names are so good for cryptocurrencies. 22:52:08 fizzie: It is 22:52:15 (I didn't remember it was a mix of eng + esolangs, though.) 22:52:18 cryptocurrencycoin is my favourite coin 22:52:27 No output. 22:52:32 ... 22:52:35 That's probably just HackEgo being bad. 22:52:38 `coins 22:52:47 I guess I really should try the restart thing. 22:52:53 fizzie: Uh, yeah 22:53:04 I think it's just being so slow it's tripping the time limits. 22:53:08 ​revercoin automoulcoin wardbarbicoin heavecoin whenecoin scabridcoin effingcoin fustcoin latoritscoin rancoin neipliecoin infuckcoin m-codcoin trecoin face1.0coin netweilcoin tsendecoin silaxcoin juliecoin imminincoin 22:53:17 Well, it did manage that. 22:53:28 So... 22:53:32 "effingcoin" 22:53:33 `exps 22:53:37 *thinks annoying the user of a language as much as possible is good* 22:54:02 face1.0coin is very web 2.0. 22:54:07 ​wadachiexp drtexp vortherexp mothexp tendswolexp kiiexp kiinexp []exp delexp circutexp phicexp granexp khamptorexp poreexp unlampexp hawnydiaraexp jugueexp genigmagyaexp etaexp unvehmgexp 22:54:07 fizzie: It is 22:54:25 []exp is the most real one in there 22:54:40 delexp isn't too far-fetched. 22:54:47 fizzie: It is not 22:54:55 They're like regex substitutions except the replacement must be the empty string. 22:55:06 fizzie: Yeah 22:55:17 drtexp sounds like the syntax of a Tex-like distribution called "Doctor Tex" 22:55:56 I guess circutexp could be for asciigramming circuits? 22:56:19 hmm Tex Murphy. 22:56:33 genigmagyaexp is... I don't know... a syntax for expressing STDs? 22:57:09 kiiexp could be something... 22:57:25 `cat bin/things 22:57:28 cat: bin/things: No such file or directory 22:58:09 `mkx bin/thingwords//words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re "s/( |$)/$1\1/g" | rainwords 22:58:15 bin/thingwords 22:58:24 There, now we don't need `coins or `exps or `loins 22:58:32 `thingwords exp 22:59:02 Argument "exp" isn't numeric in int at /hackenv/bin/words line 148. \ exp 22:59:07 ...dammit 22:59:33 I suppose the ${1---eng-1M ...} had something to do with that? 22:59:35 `coins 2 22:59:53 ​conhacoin dinecoin 22:59:56 Yep 23:00:01 fizzie: Web 3.0 is fun 23:01:11 But web 3.14159 is better 23:01:21 (cow.org/csi) 23:02:29 http://tinyurl.com/hlhbch4 , i spent time on this (not going on wiki for reasons) 23:13:29 `coins 3.14 23:14:24 ​zaancoin mocreachircoin jouxcoin 23:15:18 HackEgo: where is my seventh of a coin 23:18:23 It's one of those things where hackers steal your roundoff money. 23:26:21 So here's a plot of the number of ways that even numbers can be written as the sum of two primes: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Goldbach-1000000.png 23:26:33 There's an obvious pattern there. 23:27:23 There are a bunch of "lines" which all look like they grow slightly slower than linear. 23:27:25 -!- `^_^v has joined. 23:27:39 tswett: is the pattern that every point is above 1? 23:28:04 exit 23:28:06 The lines seem to be spaced like... um, I don't know what else is spaced like that. 23:28:49 they shld plot it out much further, like 1e+12 23:29:10 although it may look just alike:( 23:29:23 Ah, this thing explains a lot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_comet 23:37:24 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds).