00:00:24 <fizzie> fungot: So Anshar sat on a throne?
00:00:24 <fungot> fizzie: eating a yeti. peace and quiet boy, and kill him. " it is among the captains of the bush there came a low hiss a horrid cold sound that made rikki-tikki jump back two clear feet. then inch by inch out of those unwary enough to allow the lovely sweet taste to spread out, and secretly covets moloch's position. moloch doesn't trust him, then gradually changes color until it is among the weaker of demons, wallows in filth a
00:01:13 <HackEgo> These are not the yetis you are looking for.
00:02:30 <shachaf> fizzie: were you being sneaky or not
00:02:55 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg
00:03:15 <shachaf> `` sed -i 's/k/sneaky k/' wisdom/fizzie
00:03:24 <shachaf> `` sed -i s/sneaky/kind/ wisdom/oerjan
00:03:38 <oerjan> `le/rn evil throne/The evil throne belongs to oerjan, when he's not being overthrone. He rarely sits on it, though, since that time it tried to eat him.
00:03:51 <oerjan> `le/rn evil throne/The evil throne belongs to oerjan, when he's not being overthrone. He rarely sits on it, though, since that time it tried to eat him.
00:04:01 <oerjan> always mixing up the space dogmas
00:07:28 <oerjan> shachaf: i figure i cannot swat you for a pun i end up stealing hth
00:07:50 <shachaf> oerjan: I gave you that pun in a half-finished state.
00:08:01 <shachaf> I'd like to make it work grammatically but I didn't figure out how.
00:09:04 <HackEgo> drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times.
00:09:47 <int-e> `` cd wisdom; echo *sex*
00:09:47 <shachaf> that reminds me of a play i was in once
00:09:53 <HackEgo> Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on the author's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex.
00:10:07 <shachaf> the line was "the poisoner mounts the throne", and i played the part of the throne
00:10:43 <oerjan> did you eat the poisoner twh
00:10:48 <fizzie> `` grep 'rone$' share/dict-words | xargs
00:10:50 <HackEgo> Gaborone Tyrone chaperone crone dethrone drone enthrone krone minestrone progesterone prone testosterone throne
00:12:00 <oerjan> int-e: you will note that Taneb did not invent it hth
00:12:06 <int-e> `` grep 'gry$' share/dict-words | xargs
00:12:31 <shachaf> oerjan: i don't think that happens in that play hth
00:13:18 <fizzie> http://www.merriam-webster.com/help/faq-third-common-gry-word lacks demagogry, but has a number of others.
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00:14:16 <oerjan> helping the inevitable along. uhoily.
00:14:23 <\oren\> I thoht it was spelt demagogury?
00:14:47 <int-e> tail share/dict-words
00:14:51 <int-e> `` tail share/dict-words
00:14:54 <HackEgo> élan's \ émigré \ émigré's \ émigrés \ épée \ épée's \ épées \ étude \ étude's \ études
00:15:20 <\oren\> false! é is not a letter in English words!
00:15:22 <fizzie> `` grep '^demagog' share/dict-words | xargs
00:15:25 <HackEgo> xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option \ demagog
00:15:35 <shachaf> oerjan: did we learn that serious physical violence is the solution to mild linguistic frustration
00:15:38 <fizzie> Hm, shouldn't have tried to fancy.
00:15:41 <fizzie> `` grep '^demagog' share/dict-words
00:15:42 <HackEgo> demagog \ demagog's \ demagogic \ demagogry \ demagogs \ demagogue \ demagogue's \ demagoguery \ demagoguery's \ demagogues \ demagogy \ demagogy's
00:15:53 <fizzie> I just don't like the backslashes.
00:15:56 <oerjan> shachaf: that's the kind of message black hat guy would approve of.
00:16:26 <shachaf> i can undestand not wanting to be around linguists
00:16:49 <boily> hé\\orén\. what about "résumé" and "pâté"?
00:16:53 <fizzie> I think the it's-language explanation works much better with the other wording.
00:17:11 <fizzie> "Think of three words ending in -gry. Angry and hungry are two of them. There are only three words in the English language. What is the third word?"
00:17:29 <\oren\> boily: you mean resume and pate
00:18:03 * boily diacrithwacks \oren\
00:18:51 <boily> it's like our French cousins who say "patte" and "pâte" the same way. diacritics are there for a reason! they must be pronounced!
00:18:56 <shachaf> \oren\: I bet you don't believe in multiocular o, either.
00:19:43 <tswett> They forgot the word "burgry".
00:19:47 <oerjan> that xargs default looks very unhelpful.
00:19:52 <shachaf> boily: They don't speak French in \oren\'s country.
00:19:53 <tswett> You know—"with burger", "full of burger".
00:20:42 <oerjan> `` grep '^demagog' share/dict-words | fmt -w350
00:20:44 <HackEgo> demagog demagog's demagogic demagogry demagogs demagogue demagogue's demagoguery demagoguery's demagogues demagogy demagogy's
00:22:29 <shachaf> some people don't care for my rhetoric because of my accent. but when i speak in deir dialect, it leaves dem agog
00:22:56 * boily thwacks shachaf. 0.95 shachafs
00:23:06 <shachaf> the "th" and "th" sounds in english are absent in a lot of languages
00:24:36 <lambdabot> *** "agog" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
00:26:18 <\oren\> i could have sworn there was some sort of place called "magog"
00:26:32 <oerjan> tswett: i'm not sure i agry to that word
00:26:42 <oerjan> \oren\: gog and magog are in the bible iirc
00:27:38 <shachaf> I wonder where Jafet's gone.
00:28:31 <\oren\> ah I know, I saw it in one of those conspiracy theory videos on youtube
00:28:49 <pikhq> How many languages even have dental fricatives?
00:28:54 <\oren\> gog is the EU and magog is China
00:29:24 <shachaf> pikhq: We can be sure that Molvanian doesn't.
00:29:31 <boily> \oren\: there's a Magog in Québec, and a Lac Memphrémagog.
00:30:24 <\oren\> the apocalypse will come, not as a war, but a hockey riot that ends the universe
00:30:24 <shachaf> Jafet was a champion at amused detachment.
00:33:49 <\oren\> when the maple leafs defeat the canadiens and secure the stanley cup, the earth will shudder to a halt, and burning police cars will rain from orbit!
00:34:47 <\oren\> that'll teach them to make fun of Canada!
00:35:03 <boily> as much as I root for the Leafs, and as much as the Habs just plain suck, I highly doubt it'll ever happen hth
00:35:18 <boily> (doesn't mean it won't be fun if it ever does!)
00:35:35 <oerjan> pikhq: icelandic, spanish, greek at least.
00:36:41 <shachaf> is that only in spanish spanish?
00:36:43 <\oren\> spanish doesn't have th?
00:36:56 <\oren\> at least not when I learned it
00:37:00 <oerjan> shachaf: ah yes. the unvoiced one.
00:37:21 <oerjan> \oren\: it's not in latin american spanish, usually.
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01:24:43 <oerjan> <fizzie> shachaf: I didn't really think about it not being web-visible while in tmp. <-- i did, that's why i fixed `url to notice. `paste should still work although of course copies.
01:38:56 <HackEgo> Your retired mysterious kind cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker.
01:39:13 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/kind/adjectival/' wisdom/oerjan
01:47:11 <HackEgo> "Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist.
01:47:43 <boily> oerjan is about to outlength me! 'tis unacceptable!
01:48:07 <oerjan> `` wc wisdom/{oerjan,boily}
01:48:10 <HackEgo> 1 45 291 wisdom/oerjan \ 1 44 292 wisdom/boily \ 2 89 583 total
01:49:34 <oerjan> boily: it's not my fault that shachaf keeps adding stuff.
01:49:46 <oerjan> `culprits wisdom/oerjan
01:49:58 <HackEgo> oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan oerjan int-e shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf shachaf ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf shachaf nitia
01:51:14 <lambdabot> CYUL 260000Z 31010KT 15SM FEW050TCU SCT240 23/12 A2998 RMK TCU1CI2 SLP155 DENSITY ALT 900FT
01:51:37 <lambdabot> KATL 252352Z 18007KT 10SM SCT250 28/12 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP208 T02780122 10306 20278 55003
01:53:02 <lambdabot> KFNL 260035Z AUTO 14007KT 10SM CLR 22/06 A2992 RMK AO1
01:53:22 <boily> that is disturbingly west!
01:53:42 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/He can[^.]*./Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead./' wisdom/oerjan
01:53:51 <HackEgo> Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker.
01:54:36 <oerjan> @tell fizzie <fizzie> shachaf: I didn't really think about it not being web-visible while in tmp. <-- i did, that's why i fixed `url to notice. `paste should still work although of course copies.
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01:55:43 <lambdabot> ENVA 252350Z 09005KT 360V110 9999 BKN034 06/02 Q1026 RMK WIND 670FT 07005KT
01:56:22 <oerjan> neither warm nor humid, at the moment.
02:13:56 <boily> bonnuitopia, børjanne nuit!
02:14:09 <boily> . o O ( hmm... how can I bonne nuit shachaf... )
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02:37:29 <tswett> b'The important thing is to not stop questioning.istioning.ispioning.ostioning.istioning.istioning.ist'
02:44:29 <tswett> b'Thesio.oiiiiuoiioiioioioii.iis.oiioiipiissoooiiigpoiipioiigsiiugo oipogiiiiiiiiiie iiiiipiemiiiiiioe'
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03:11:21 <\oren\> once again I am cursed to watch ion engines run for hours on end
03:13:43 <\oren\> I have to perform a burn of 1400 m/s with a engine that accelerates at 0.5 m/s^2
03:15:07 <\oren\> in this case it's only 40 minutes but still
03:21:39 <\oren\> I made the mistake of sending out 6 probes of the same design, with nuclear engines...
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03:52:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Z]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47064 * 71.202.114.203 * (+2013) Described a programming language I invented.
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04:59:44 <\oren\> is there a way to pause a program at a particular point and save it as an executable?
05:00:22 <pikhq> Not without a *lot* of hacks.
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07:21:34 <\oren\> Yay, obligatory swimsuit episode
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08:00:50 <shachaf> oerjan: I've been editing instead of adding lately.
08:04:09 <b_jonas> \oren\: there used to be, but these days operating system and runtime state of programs got much more complicated, so it usually doesn't work.
08:05:27 <b_jonas> \oren\: so it's possible only if you control what your program does, but that involves lots of things including internal details of the libc
08:05:33 <b_jonas> \oren\: the keyword to look for is undump
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08:09:28 <hppavilion[2]> ...apparently sascatchewan was planning to (and perhaps did) kill free speech in march
08:09:40 <hppavilion[2]> Good thing it can't affect anything real, given that it's a made-up place
08:11:56 <HackEgo> Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker.
08:13:00 <shachaf> `` sed -i 's/\./ lately./' wisdom/oerjan
08:13:07 <shachaf> Too bad that trick doesn't work on logreaders.
08:15:33 <b_jonas> nice, he's got updated text
08:15:55 <b_jonas> ``` cat wisdom/o[ex]r[jt]a[np]
08:16:07 <HackEgo> Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker.
08:16:31 <shachaf> `` hg log | grep summary: | grep amortized
08:16:42 <HackEgo> summary: <oerjan> ` sed -i \'s/He can[^.]*./Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead./\' wisdom/oerjan \ summary: <shachaf> learn An amortized word is a word that oerjan can never remember. \ summary: <oerjan> learn_append oerjan He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience.
09:10:54 <fungot> hppavilion[2]: they say that a potion of healing can cancel a potion of sickness. fear would have been wiped off the tree, and one of his face and his sword-blade was stained black. it has the power to protect the wearer's view sense into the base, two! and through and through and through the torso. the glare from the third time, at night.
09:13:54 <hppavilion[2]> I just found the official list of Acceptable Venezuelan Pranks
09:57:45 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Pallinger * New user account
09:58:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Anguish]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47065 * Pallinger * (+443) Anguish language summary and link to definition and interpreter
10:00:48 <izabera> unsigned int true_random_seed(void)
10:00:50 <izabera> // return a true random seed (which depends on the time)
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10:07:54 <Koen_> @message oerjan I tried to send a message via lambdabot and it did not work. You told me it did not work. I already knew it did not work, but not how to make it work.
10:07:54 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: messages messages-loud messages?
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10:11:36 <shachaf> oerjan: "amortized" is from latin, right? it means "beloved"?
10:50:19 <b_jonas> I'm undoing all my work on a code because I have to make it compatible with some other code that works completely differently
10:50:29 <b_jonas> most of the interface and implementation will change
10:52:24 <Koen_> I guess that's why they say "encapsulating" is so important. does the other code really have to know how your code is doing things?
10:52:37 <b_jonas> Koen_: both are encapsulated and have proper interfaces
10:52:58 <b_jonas> it's just that their interfaces are so different that I can't just turn my code a wrapper around the other code like I wanted
10:53:38 <b_jonas> the other code requires that I provide some values earlier during some process, and it supplies some other values later
10:53:48 <b_jonas> whereas my code does those two things at the same time
10:54:48 <Koen_> then I guess the only remaining options are to either curse the other code for being different, or thank the other code for forcing a new way of thinking upon your code
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11:03:36 <b_jonas> Koen_: I'm cursing the other code, yes
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12:05:34 <ski> /msg MemoServ send Koen__ you can also send messages like this, use the `list' and `read' (see `help') commands with `MemoServ' to read. notification on identification, iirc
12:09:39 <Koen__> true, but I'd need to be identified to send or receive messages that way
12:24:41 <ski> hm, receive, anyway
12:24:47 * ski doesn't know about send
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12:32:28 <fizzie> lambdabot has a much more personal touch than MemoServ.
12:33:47 <b_jonas> ``` cd wisdom && find -iname "*laugh*"
12:34:07 <b_jonas> ski: you need to be identified to send a message as well
12:35:12 <ski> lambdabot `tell' has the advantage of notifying on activity
12:45:09 <b_jonas> ski: memoserv notifies when you identify to nickserv (or at connection if that's when you identify)
12:48:04 <ski> ok (as i said, then)
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13:21:18 <b_jonas> ``` cd wisdom && find -iname "*laugh*" && echo ZdlNKYtR
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13:52:26 <ski> ``` echo No output.
14:19:25 <fizzie> `` cat bin/No # spoilers
14:47:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Z]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47066&oldid=47064 * Keymaker * (+4) Linked truth-machine to its page.
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15:10:53 <int-e> `` shift -1 # too bad
15:11:03 <HackEgo> /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: shift: -1: shift count out of range
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16:26:47 <\oren\> `` echo # i dont know bash syntax. will this be output?
16:28:29 <\oren\> right but i didnt know whether # starts a comment at the end of a line
16:29:26 <\oren\> in basic rem only works at the start
16:30:39 <\oren\> hmmm... actually apparently in vb .net it now works anywhere in a line
16:31:53 <\oren\> i could have sworn that wawnt the case ij vb6
16:37:11 <fizzie> QBasic allowed 'comment in-line with other statements, but not rem comments.
16:37:15 <fizzie> https://gamma.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html#QEw4MDg0
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20:00:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bugmaker]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47067&oldid=24852 * Natemara * (+114) /* Gotchas */
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20:47:13 <zenobit> a dude who made https://bitbucket.org/little-bit/zeno
20:50:21 <quintopia> http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Quintopia
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21:07:18 <Koen_> I see you're dodging the questions then
21:08:19 <gamemanj> I think zenobit lost connection before you asked, judging by the ping timeout
21:09:33 <gamemanj> hmm. Leaves the opportunity that the client disappeared the moment it received your message, but...
21:15:03 <Koen_> a little tired and looking forward to a boring month of june
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22:58:37 <shachaf> oerjan: if fizzie's the king of #esoteric, why do you have the throne?
23:01:44 <Taneb> shachaf, oerjan could be the queen
23:02:47 <shachaf> Taneb: is this a xanth-style usage of the words hth
23:03:49 <Taneb> I am not sure what you mean by that
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23:04:54 <lambdabot> *** "queen" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
23:04:54 <lambdabot> n 1: the only fertile female in a colony of social insects such
23:04:54 <lambdabot> as bees and ants and termites; its function is to lay eggs
23:04:54 <lambdabot> 2: a female sovereign ruler [syn: {queen}, {queen regnant},
23:05:03 <shachaf> <oerjan> shachaf: i'm pretty sure i'm male
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23:40:54 <oerjan> Koen_: i saw your message in the logs. i have no idea what you're referring to.
23:41:38 <Koen_> oh that reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend not long ago
23:41:45 <oerjan> and it's been so long since you were last here that it's probably useless to check recent logs.
23:42:23 <Koen_> it went like so: "-what? -what? -what? -did you say something? -no. did you? -no. -ok"
23:43:57 <oerjan> <shachaf> Too bad that trick doesn't work on logreaders. <-- shocking
23:44:11 <lambdabot> Local time for oerjan is Fri May 27 00:44:10 2016
23:44:37 <shachaf> oerjan: It doesn't work on you at all anymore, because I used it too much.
23:44:37 <oerjan> shachaf: that edit wouldn't have fit well grammatically, i think.
23:44:58 <oerjan> shachaf: true. no, i came back from the restaurant.
23:45:08 <oerjan> pizza with chicken and pesto.
23:45:10 <shachaf> oerjan: well neither does the "Now" at the beginning of the third sentence hth
23:46:02 <HackEgo> Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker.
23:46:10 <oerjan> shachaf: i considered changing it to "Nowadays", but this all started with boily complaining it was too long...
23:46:49 <oerjan> the solution is, of course, obvious.
23:47:01 <shachaf> i think we thought of the same solution at the same time hth
23:47:06 <oerjan> `` sed -i 's/Now/Lately/' wisdom/oerjan
23:47:36 <shachaf> oerjan has been editing lately instead of adding
23:54:12 <oerjan> <shachaf> oerjan: "amortized" is from latin, right? it means "beloved"? <-- you may be confusing with "amatus" hth
23:54:42 <shachaf> oerjan: the pun was meant to be about "amor"
23:56:45 <oerjan> the words aren't even related, it's ad + mort-