< 1464566536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464566798 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn mason jar/A Mason jar is a jar made by someone named Mason. < 1464566810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «mason jar» < 1464566839 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I speak to Mason, then? This jar is broken. < 1464566853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoily! < 1464567008 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whell whell whellœrjan! < 1464567057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we seem to meet only about every 3 days < 1464567075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Manager FAQ (by seebs) at http://www.seebs.net/faqs/manager.html < 1464567079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'manager': Manager FAQ (by seebs) at http://www.seebs.net/faqs/manager.html < 1464567092 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hacker < 1464567094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464567124 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was exceptionaly busy lately hthly < 1464567130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hacker/Jim Hacker is a former British prime minister. < 1464567133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hacker» < 1464567209 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have designed a 134-bit VLIW microcode. < 1464567233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wtf yafgc (don't read today's if you're not caught up and hate spoilers) < 1464567539 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yafgc < 1464567540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yafgc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464567551 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet Another Fungot Got Cherries? < 1464567562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic < 1464567575 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic. tdh. < 1464567576 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also a kind of OISC VLIW < 1464567633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the current arc is extremely dark, and that's for a comic whose original main characters are _evil_ d&d monsters... < 1464567664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's since grown a large number of good characters as well) < 1464567692 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: *yawns* < 1464567721 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. can't read it. clashing with my vegan aura. < 1464567728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1464567738 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1464567743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also occasionally nsfw, but it's sunday so... < 1464567867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's it's 10th anniversary btw and the author decided to make that coincide with a very major event. < 1464567963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think your vegan aura chickened out years ago, anyway. < 1464568001 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an aura, nothing substantial. < 1464568006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464568021 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentaly made vegan food for supper >_>'... < 1464568029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a carnivore aura but even lighter? < 1464568058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume that the itymology of "it's" is "its" < 1464568066 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vegan aura doesn't even cast a ghostly shadow. < 1464568067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1464568086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i blame the "today's" affecting my neurons < 1464568256 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itymology < 1464568259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itymology is the science of understanding the true meaning of a statement. < 1464568269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464568278 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464568436 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1464568454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < i use my shipping wall to track pairs of people who are items < 1464568461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me an itemologist, of course < 1464568553 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1464568564 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do < 1464568608 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chillaxing while the AC does its thing. < 1464568653 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it will have done its thing in an hour or two. just started it; it's become disturbingly humid.) < 1464568657 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1464568658 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 292300Z 16011KT 15SM FEW080 SCT120 OVC250 26/19 A2993 RMK AC1AC2CI5 SLP136 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1464568661 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi all < 1464568666 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hidu! < 1464568680 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do I know you? < 1464568691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1464568692 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been coerced into someone elses family gathering < 1464568712 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your family? someone else's family? will you survive? < 1464568717 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it an unsafe coerce? < 1464568742 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464568742 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My name is Andrew, but you may call me adu, you may not call me abu, if you do I will ignore you for all of time < 1464568800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why about your father? < 1464568814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I call your father abu adu? < 1464568830 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's condition sounds scary. < 1464568847 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Why about" is not english, what is your native language? < 1464568856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "What about". < 1464568869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was only my fingers being affected by oerjan's neurons. < 1464568874 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why about" makes perfect sense hth. < 1464568883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time adu < 1464568884 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for adu is 2016-05-29 19:42:08 -0400 < 1464568895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an east coaster! < 1464568906 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about east coasters? < 1464568914 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :East Coast Best Coast :D < 1464568928 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, California is where it's at ;) < 1464568933 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfeuh :P < 1464568947 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you meant "psfph" < 1464568959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not to be confused with , I suppose. < 1464568977 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, indeed not. < 1464568982 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what coast is that? < 1464568985 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: that was a French «pfeuh». < 1464569026 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my timezone is EST, but my heart is in PST < 1464569037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Easter coast. < 1464569044 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: come extract me < 1464569048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost an east coaster. < 1464569064 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that even *more* east than the east coast? < 1464569099 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd if=quintopia.iso of=/dev/KATL bs=4M conv=noerror < 1464569100 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :sertie < 1464569104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2013/09/coast-coaster-set-east-2-460x460.jpg hth < 1464569123 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he he he :D < 1464569132 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :surtie < 1464569144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Bad news, Canada isn't part of the east coast. < 1464569147 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: wait. you aren't KATLing anymore. < 1464569147 0 :sertie!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1464569153 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :sertie < 1464569161 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you say Klingon? < 1464569163 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we're appröximatively eastcoastal. < 1464569178 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: nope. I haven't learned Klingon yet. < 1464569200 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: good, neither have I, I spent too much time learning Haskell < 1464569229 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1464569238 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to mountain time < 1464569308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tlhask hol < 1464569427 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other Haskell fans here? < 1464569478 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, we hate haskell by and large < 1464569494 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any Rust fans in here? < 1464569500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is confused, he thinks haskell is a brainfuck derivative < 1464569505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Sgeo  < 1464569523 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oerjan hi adu < 1464569527 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a Rust fan < 1464569533 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: cool < 1464569556 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made several libraries for Rust including take_mut < 1464569563 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1464569564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "No Haskellers here" < 1464569566 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No Haskellers here < 1464569583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DJMcMayhem 5* 10New user account < 1464569591 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done very little in Rust, mainly because I have no time, but what I have done has shown me it's an incredibly productive language < 1464569613 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: you should try Java. < 1464569617 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is also productive, but it's too easy to make crap in it < 1464569636 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is for crappy people to make crappy software, no thanks < 1464569668 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes *ahem* with the generic Go criticism that Go has no generics < 1464569685 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I never said that < 1464569690 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is p okay < 1464569691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that I'd rather write Java than Go. < 1464569720 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, some Java libraries can be painful in ways the language doesn't force < 1464569727 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: unless you're talking about my blog: http://straymindcough.blogspot.com/2011/01/golang-proposals.html < 1464569748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, the average Java culture is surely worse than the Java language. < 1464569751 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall one standard lib api returning null instead of an empty list for something < 1464569766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: btw shachaf and Taneb wrote about half of lens, i think. < 1464569774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1464569775 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens < 1464569786 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you mean what I think you mean? < 1464569787 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1464569791 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan! hi < 1464569792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: probably. < 1464569823 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in every function is attached to it's own undo function? < 1464569829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also above statement _may_ be wildly exaggerated. i'm just not sure of it.) < 1464569837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: wait, you know haskell but not lens? < 1464569852 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: apparently < 1464569858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1464569866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey i was writing that < 1464569892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe you'd know more if you joined #haskell-lens hth < 1464569901 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's haskell-lens? < 1464569948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric programming language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47084&oldid=44813 5* 03DJMcMayhem 5* (+374) 10Added description of "Golfing languages" < 1464569988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes but then my brain would get regularly overloaded tdnh < 1464570019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: it's the channel for the real haskell experts hth < 1464570032 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym twnh hth hand < 1464570054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twnh -- owi? < 1464570063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you trying to make a tense moment? < 1464570071 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I stopped using Haskell around 2010, possibly because I read a paper by Oleg detailing how to construct a Hashtable purely on the type level, without using any memory, and my brain exploded < 1464570099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ah. a lot has happened since then. < 1464570150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays you probably don't even need to be Oleg to do that. < 1464570156 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464570203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan isn't letting on how he uses all sorts of fancy type system extensions to exploit GHC bugs as a hobby < 1464570222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was _last_ winter, sheesh. < 1464570224 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want solid software < 1464570242 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Rust is better at delivering it than Haskell < 1464570243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have hardly touched haskell since october, when my computer crashed. < 1464570248 0 :surtie!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1464570253 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why did it crash? < 1464570255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are those related? < 1464570259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need a computer? < 1464570272 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can send you a linux netbook < 1464570273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. i never installed ghc on the new hard disk. < 1464570289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But you can just Haskell it up on the computer you use for IRC. < 1464570319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not sure they would appreciate me installing ghc as a user... < 1464570325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1464570327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh they might not even notice. < 1464570334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can install GHC in your home directory, no problem. < 1464570337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the admins on the machine i irc from... < 1464570344 0 :sertie!?@? NICK :hcddwch < 1464570439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: hard disk sector error, somewhere in the middle of the OS. < 1464570447 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464570468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could boot it, and use it, but i couldn't leave it alone for 10 minutes without it rebooting. < 1464570487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You could install GHC 8 now. < 1464570494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And provide the rest of us with a trip report. < 1464570507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know. maybe when i get that far in /r/haskell. < 1464570560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you read reddit, though < 1464570563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :installing ghc 8.0.1 is easy < 1464570564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a scow website < 1464570566 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464570576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Like a monoid? < 1464570585 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've built lambdabot with it (patching a few packages on the way), but not dared to test it. < 1464570595 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464570625 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1464570640 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/issues/145 < 1464570657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should upgrade lambdabot to ghc 8 so i can try it out twh < 1464570685 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on it... but I need sleep < 1464570696 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so next weekend... hopefully < 1464570712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes github had responsive web pages < 1464570782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464570801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What pages do you wish were responsive? < 1464570861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like the one int-e linked, when i zoom it doesn't reflow < 1464570892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to upgrade your eyes to use github < 1464570900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAA < 1464570910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes there was something as good as Google Code Search < 1464570935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm pretty sure trying to use github was what _really_ crashed my computer. < 1464570968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad crashing auras. < 1464571039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464571353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464571359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas hehe, even John Baez reports about the small Turing machines stuff in his blog: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/diary/ <-- he already wrote about it in his _other_ blog < 1464571359 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464571439 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, new small TM stuff? < 1464571504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think it's just what i already saw < 1464571528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, Stefan O'Rear delivered on his promise that he could improve the bounds < 1464571540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it wasn't linked here but https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/05/21/the-busy-beaver-game/ < 1464571557 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two weeks ago, but I had not seen it anyway. < 1464571584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i found it from aaronson's blog at it wasn't mentioned directly here < 1464571589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1464571664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he has a new blog post about very long proofs < 1464571756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/very-long-proofs/ < 1464571779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders whether to bite the bullet and subscribe to the rss < 1464571832 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use to track rss feeds these days? < 1464571840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you hear ddarius has one of these post websites too now < 1464571852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i just use IE? < 1464571863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: er, wat < 1464571879 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that fully open source FPGA toolchain does exist, for use with iCE40 FPGAs. I don't know if this toolchain is compatible with non-x86 computers, but I expect it could probably be ported if you want to. < 1464571880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a website with posts < 1464571901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls the nick ddarius but not why he should be particularly interested. < 1464571929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1464571957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i don't recall anything about the nick other than _maybe_ a vague haskell vibe. < 1464571996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this person http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/user/1510 < 1464572033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464572520 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464573314 0 :hcddwch!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1464573380 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FRIDAY CHICKEN < 1464574683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently VAX microcode is 188-bits VLIW, which is what User:Ian wrote at least < 1464574740 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see, how many parameters does my neural net have, again? It's... < 1464574788 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let s = 144 in (256+1)*s + 6*(s+1)*s + (s+1)*256 < 1464574790 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 199408 < 1464574814 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be neat if it managed to memorize this tinyshakespeare file. < 1464574842 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that's impossible. < 1464574925 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinyshakespeare has about 1.1 million characters. English text tends to have an entropy of roughly approximately 1 bit per character. That means this file has about a million bits of entropy. < 1464574990 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464575872 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464575875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? infidel < 1464575902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infidel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464575918 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464575961 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464576086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An infidel is someone who doesn't support the great former leader. Socialismo o muerte! < 1464576103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'infidel': An infidel is someone who doesn't support the great former leader. Socialismo o muerte! < 1464576374 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :User:Ian also wrote that SHARC has hardware COME FROM; how does that work? < 1464577903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464577914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, it's undecidable whether two finite state transducers are equivalent? < 1464578008 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1464578041 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464578057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464578122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eel < 1464578126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eek < 1464578140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hovercraft < 1464578147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur. If you mention eels, you'll get smacked with one of them in a most unappropriate manner. < 1464578248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is hovercraft the dual of minecraft < 1464578260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1464578291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's yourscraft < 1464578608 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1464578643 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464579278 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464579490 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464579555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :514) When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a monad. < 1464579577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :705) you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES < 1464579578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8) Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? not yet trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence < 1464579579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :919) DIE oh hey elliott < 1464579580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :602) Yeah, statistics with 2 data points is science. Statistics with one data point is crap. You measure a third point if you need an error estimate. < 1464579603 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464579608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too biased to take action here < 1464579727 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464579845 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how that Madelon quote got there. < 1464580189 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:3818:7e0a:b881:2e27 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hai < 1464580945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think way back, HackEgo used to be on another channel and some of the oldest quotes have lingered. < 1464582289 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1464582391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464582590 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464582717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand what I wrote about the microcodes of my new kind of computer design by now? < 1464582808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't think I even read it. < 1464582816 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURN < 1464582821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1464582835 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk it sounded like a burn < 1464582847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a burn? < 1464582848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An insult? < 1464582872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464582872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then read and see what it says. I don't know all of the what it work so hopefully other people can help it too < 1464582899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is this about VAX microcode? < 1464582927 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn < 1464582950 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean my own design < 1464584329 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464585073 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464585380 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1464585653 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464585848 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1464589624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype A = A deriving Typeable < 1464589624 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: newtype declaration constructor must have exactly one parameter. < 1464589640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype A = A Int deriving Typeable < 1464589643 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1464589644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1464589659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was hoping for a warning < 1464589758 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What warning? < 1464589766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that it's automatic? < 1464589780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464589832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's a set of new pragmas that are affecting deriving, and i'm wondering if they've considered Typeable. < 1464589864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that seems like an awfully pragmatic thing for you to worry about hth < 1464589924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't want them to open up the Typeable hole again... < 1464589955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype A = A Int deriving {-# GND #-} Typeable would do that if it worked. < 1464590055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION submits a comment < 1464590055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it irritating how bug 10000 was marked as a duplicate < 1464590068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://phabricator.haskell.org/D2280 btw < 1464590073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before I reported it no one was thinking of it as a security issue. < 1464590091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shocking < 1464590177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shocking < 1464590181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464590209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what about Data? i don't know enough about that to know if that could be dangerous. oh well. < 1464590220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they seem to have considered Generic.) < 1464590280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does this wikipedia entry not have an english version twh https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A7_(%D7%90%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A8) < 1464590350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god it has a norwegian one < 1464590443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464590469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the norwegian wikipedia doesn't support the en: prefix :( < 1464590495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the en: prefix? < 1464590524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sends you to the english wikipedia < 1464590532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the search box < 1464590555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything support that? < 1464590580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, English wikipedia support no: < 1464590582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :supports < 1464590596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I have to be mildly self-conscious about mistyping anything. < 1464590600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to adu. < 1464590602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, adu. < 1464590614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464590631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, it works for me. < 1464590638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... why do we use the metre-kilogram-second? I'd much prefer if we had some kilogram-equivalent unit that is a base unit < 1464590643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=en:No < 1464590693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Units are meant for people to use and only incidentally for physicists to execute. < 1464590710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it doesn't work in the search box for me < 1464590732 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, it works in the search box for me. < 1464590761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1464590768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sheesh < 1464590770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464590809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sheeesh < 1464590812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464590812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway, it looks like the english "leg" is ambiguous between meaning that or the whole leg < 1464590839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the article for "human leg" connects to other wikipedia's latter meaning < 1464590849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-' < 1464590853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1464590854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+' < 1464590875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, the hebrew word is "shok" hth < 1464590885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hysterical raisins hth < 1464590961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the "Planck Value"? The minimum amount of moneyness? :P < 1464590976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the norwegian is "legg". < 1464590982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is moneyness? < 1464590986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you pricing derivatives? < 1464590991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell \oren\. < 1464590995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sure < 1464591004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can I tell /oren/ though? < 1464591019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look. < 1464591028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1464591029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't destroy the US economy. < 1464591035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1464591056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How would I destroy the US economy? < 1464591058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should be destroyed. < 1464591064 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Too late. < 1464591067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With complicated derivatives, I hear. < 1464591079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hodgell would probably be in favor of destroying it. < 1464591084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm setting the Planck Value at the price of one Planck Energy's worth of electricity. There. < 1464591111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this time, use complex integrals hth < 1464591119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Planck Minimum Wage is 1 Planck Value per Planck Time < 1464591141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by marxism, value = work so it should be the planck energy hth < 1464591170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: DAMN YOU MARXIST SCUM < 1464591174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1464591180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like this planck value is priced by the market. < 1464591208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not really; we assume maximum efficiency with generation < 1464591233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And that the market sells at the exact amount of value it takes to produce, which is obviously not correct, but lets pretend it is < 1464591239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*let's < 1464591249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> editDistance "marxist" "market" < 1464591253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncindence? < 1464591269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's 3 < 1464591279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, assuming deletions cost as much as replacements < 1464591292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something to do, invent a derivative that lets me hedge and bet on future liquidity. < 1464591295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh < 1464591302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Planck Laziness? < 1464591336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose planck laziness is... hm... < 1464591347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously about avoiding doing one planck energy's worth of work < 1464591362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to model liquidity nonlinearly. < 1464591371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But solidity can be modeled with a matrix. < 1464591389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What's the Wooden Planck? < 1464591449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts on his anti-swatter helmet < 1464591464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something to do, figure out how to set the tick size (minimum price increment) for a market. < 1464591484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a tricky question. You don't want it too fine or too coarse. < 1464591500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :US equity markets use $0.01 as the tick size since ~2000. Before that I think they used $⅛? < 1464591502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's easy; just become a politician and get other politicians to vote to set it to the desired value < 1464591587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, from the perspective of someone who wants a market that achieves the goals that society wants it to achieve, figure out how to decide on a tick size. < 1464591605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's also easy; consult your nearest mathematician < 1464591620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would mathematicians know? < 1464591634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because they can math very well < 1464591644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, there needs to be a Mathematician General in the US. Someone to put warnings on lottery tickets) < 1464591647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all you're going to do is make jokes in #esoteric, at least make them good jokes. < 1464591659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Too tired to be funny < 1464591672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just hit 22:00 here < 1464591685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :amateur < 1464591690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1464591694 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Mon May 30 08:01:30 2016 < 1464591723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're too tired to be funny, it's a good cue to stop making jokes. < 1464591727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1464591728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Pfft. It doesn't measure down to the planck time, and it doesn't measure since the big bang. < 1464591730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *fine* < 1464591734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'm just too much of a grouch. < 1464591821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a holiday in Alaska tomorrow. < 1464591825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have no excuse anyway. < 1464593416 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:3818:7e0a:b881:2e27 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464593706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1464593795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm too much of a grouch nowadays. < 1464595498 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464595953 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464596058 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464596119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464596242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464596703 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464596809 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464596911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464597208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Etc. < 1464597850 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464598981 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the heck do splash screens (for software starting up) use always on top windows? < 1464599959 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bragging rights < 1464600043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU wasting < 1464600068 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasting CPU: It's the new optimization! < 1464600298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Maximngy 5* 10New user account < 1464600711 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18d:bfb3:e8e9:6840 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464600975 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18d:bfb3:e8e9:6840 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464601645 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I hate wordpress. Its web interface makes it so difficult to list or find earlier blog entries. < 1464601651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why's everyone using it? < 1464602052 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464602143 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vebhbfxhrbhgpmdr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464602228 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because everyone's using it < 1464602335 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that seems a tautology, but... < 1464602344 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody uses it because everybody uses it < 1464603043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07++brainfuck++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47085 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+1447) 10++brainfuck++ writed by me < 1464603069 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464603081 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no, I think it's more like that the rest of the people use google's blogger, which is almost as bad. it also doesn't let you list or find old posts. < 1464603117 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. just write a Lua script to compile your blog into a static site. problem solved. < 1464603146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no compile problems, and Lua seems to be rather portable so you don't have to worry about GEM NOT FOUND < 1464603181 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why bother with external libraries) < 1464603395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I know there are good blog sites. I'm just complaining because most aren't, and as a reader, it's sometimes easier to just download the entire fucking blog and do a local search to find something. < 1464603419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't mean full text search. I can't even list the titles of article titles through the web interface. < 1464603428 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither wordpress nor blogger allows that. < 1464603435 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: did you ever use lua for not-so-small programs? < 1464603453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just showing the last few articles, and hides everything else quite well. < 1464603459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: A few times. < 1464603470 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I've found Lua patterns to be very useful for parsing... < 1464603519 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done so, and the overall experience was quite painful < 1464603538 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for one data point: I've worked through 300K lines of Lua code at the daily job) < 1464603551 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :300K? Ok, that might be much < 1464603568 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and overall quality of Lua libraries is close to abysmal < 1464603578 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... depends which libraries... < 1464603588 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464603596 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :io.popen's downright stupid "read or write, pick one!" < 1464603605 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. even basic libraries got that wrong < 1464603635 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again that's not actually Lua's fault < 1464603655 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :popen's a wrapper around C stdlib popen which is equally broken < 1464603712 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: right. but unlike C you are forced to use another bindings for that purpose, and I think there are not always bindings for such mistakes < 1464603718 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for covering such mistakes up, I meant < 1464603740 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: os.time was another catch for me < 1464603760 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lua 5.3 doesn't, but prior versions were not thread-safe < 1464603769 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gave some confusing values from time to time < 1464603775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1464603779 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gulps < 1464603785 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: localtime, not localtime_r. this explains all < 1464603792 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've never had that myself but it's worrying < 1464603850 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of mistakes. it is fine to make mistakes, just give us a way of fix things *in place*! < 1464603886 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think even the most recent release of Lua 5.2 had this bug (and we had to use Lua 5.1 for, uh, some reason) < 1464603916 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even more fun caused by Lua's obsession with the standard library, though.. < 1464603933 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is even no real compatibility between minor versions < 1464603936 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ability to list directories < 1464603948 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I've never encountered problems with compatibility myself, but ok < 1464603967 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard library is full of holes, but so is C stdlib... < 1464603972 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: if you look at manuals for Lua 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3, the list of functions is very similar-looking and yet slightly different < 1464603979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Maximngy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47086 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+226) 10Created page with "Hi!!!

I'm programmer on Python, Small Basic, work in Arduino IDE (language based on C) and PHP DevelStudio

Thats esoteric languages wroted by me :

* [https://eso..." < 1464603980 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that alone is a barrier for compatibility < 1464603998 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot safely run 5.1 code in 5.2 or 5.3 < 1464604033 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kind of ignorance that even PHP does not have < 1464604083 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might just be lucky, but I haven't run into those problems. < 1464604090 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough rants. Lua is in theory good for what it's good for, but in reality (even for supposed uses) I think it is worse. < 1464604146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for embedding behavior at least it hasn't managed too badly - it doesn't have the massive weight of Python's standard libraries, for one... < 1464604151 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while I was working with 300K loc project in the daily job, I also worked in much smaller scale and the problem remained so...) < 1464604239 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I see that is partly a fetishism; you can definitely have a reasonable set of features without dependency and platform hell, SQLite did that fine for example. < 1464604411 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I once wondered to the point that the whole Lua fiasco^Wproject is for fueling projects to PUC-Rio :S < 1464604447 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be partly true (not "fiasco" part though), as many initial libraries for Lua were developed from PUC-Rio < 1464604471 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention that the libraries were of questionable quality IMO < 1464604541 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "initial libraries", do you mean the standard library or modules? < 1464604552 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: nope---something like LuaSocket I meant. < 1464604564 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464604582 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have either questionable quality or questionable design choice, sometimes both < 1464604601 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they do not work well together < 1464604651 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, LuaSocket had made a questionable choice to implement socket timeout with select < 1464604670 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works, but quite different from what we normally expect < 1464604697 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that choice breaks down when LuaSocket is used with LuaSec (no proper timeout for TLS connection, what the fuck) < 1464604718 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read the docs on client:receive < 1464604724 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed it and made it worse < 1464604793 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it also returns a no-one-would-know third return! < 1464604819 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly - in the case of, say, a gopher server automatically closing the connection after send < 1464604819 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is downright strange < 1464604825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably lose data if you weren't really careful < 1464604835 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I knew that since I once stepped over that brick, fuck) < 1464604856 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, enough rants really < 1464604857 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1464604863 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't mind < 1464604876 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the rest of the channel minds then that's a problem < 1464604895 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll agree with you LuaSocket looks nuts just by the definition of client:receive < 1464604938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom_hooover < 1464604946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: when are you going to fix haskellwiki < 1464604957 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the kind of thing that should probably be wrapped, so that it returns the data, and then the error on the next call < 1464604960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hooover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464604985 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference is a race condition anyway... < 1464605305 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : (lifthrasiir here, moving to mobile) I was at least fortunate to be able to work on Lua type checker though, the entire team was REALLY frustrated over Lua < 1464605464 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464605485 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume_: one quick search to figure out how such a dramatic nickname change could occur < 1464605494 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, forgot the * * < 1464605498 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :around that last line < 1464605557 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume_: Noted. < 1464605763 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : I have some dozens of nicknames < 1464605813 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot! < 1464605841 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep to "gamemanj". Or if I'm trying to be sneaky, I append "-" and then the English name of a greek letter. < 1464605913 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464607840 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464609335 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464609372 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464609487 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1464609504 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464609618 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1464609792 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464610390 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464610681 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TWICE CHICKEN < 1464612904 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.223.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464613345 0 :ocharles_!?@? NICK :ocharles < 1464613362 0 :ocharles!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aaiabswkczwsnbye QUIT :Changing host < 1464613362 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1464613536 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.223.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464615199 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464615507 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464619639 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464619641 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464619647 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1464619678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadrilateral//Don't you mean "tetrapleur"? < 1464619678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dark Offering \ 4BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy target nonblack creature. You gain 3 life. \ P2-U, S99-U < 1464619678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pineapple; \ water until lightly blended over and remove from pan. Add \ strands of butter, mixed well, adding the oil, oregano, beater over low \ heat, covered, for 15 minutes. \ Store in a bowl, add the sugar, carrots, and \ shortening. \ \ Recipe By : \ \ MMMMM \ \ MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ Title: EMPSPUTETS < 1464619699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1464619700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n \ its take it to feed been and all the vegetables. \ Add the ice apple beans, with, onion, and pepper. Pour in the \ 2 tablespoon of the whipped cream into the pan in lightly floured \ get and deep flour and including for 1 hour. Top with side of \ the sugar, chopped fresh chop more. \ \ Recipe By : Low-Bobbie Cooking \ \ MMMMM \ \ MM < 1464619707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that was quick < 1464619709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1464619938 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464620554 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It usually *is* quick after it's been pre-warmed. < 1464620648 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda-sorta out of memory: http://sprunge.us/DYBA < 1464620830 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not so sure as to why. RSS'es of all processes sum up to 537148k only. < 1464621162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1464621184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I make a bot to continuously pre-warn him and keep everything cached in? < 1464621224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c / | sha1sum < 1464621257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Removing leading `/' from member names \ tar: /sys/fs/ext4/features/meta_bg_resize: File shrank by 4096 bytes; padding with zeros \ tar: /sys/fs/ext4/features/batched_discard: File shrank by 4096 bytes; padding with zeros \ tar: /sys/fs/ext4/features/lazy_itable_init: File shrank by 4096 bytes; padding with zeros \ tar: /sys/bus/cpu/uevent: Ca < 1464621288 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor HackEgo < 1464621345 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c / --warning=none | wc -c < 1464621354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well the HackEgo VM is competing with other VMs on the same host... you won't see that inside the VM. < 1464621379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Removing leading `/' from member names \ tar: /sys/bus/cpu/uevent: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/cpu/drivers_probe: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/clocksource/uevent: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/clocksource/drivers_probe: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/workqueue/uevent: Cannot < 1464621397 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` du -s / 2>/dev/null < 1464621426 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount < 1464621438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I said --warning=none! why does it still warn < 1464621440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1464621447 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c / 2>/dev/null | wc -c < 1464621450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: those are errros < 1464621452 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :errors even < 1464621479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621489 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably times out before it can read everything < 1464621497 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c . 2>/dev/null | wc -c && echo home < 1464621507 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c ~ 2>/dev/null | wc -c && echo really home < 1464621530 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is running it several times simultaneously supposed to help? < 1464621542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10240 \ really home < 1464621542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621553 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1464621560 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: stop contradicting me! < 1464621595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c . 2>/dev/null | wc -c && pwd < 1464621624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1464621633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1464621855 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you possibly maybe not do that? < 1464621871 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464621889 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sorry, I'll stop now < 1464623151 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card creature(?s:.*)suspend 1 < 1464623153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rift Bolt \ 2R \ Sorcery \ Rift Bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player. \ Suspend 1--{R} (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay {R} and exile it with a time counter on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost.) \ TSP-C, MMA-C < 1464623163 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1464623167 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^creature(?s:.*)suspend 1 < 1464623168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greater Gargadon \ 9R \ Creature -- Beast \ 9/7 \ Suspend 10--{R} \ Sacrifice an artifact, creature, or land: Remove a time counter from Greater Gargadon. Activate this ability only if Greater Gargadon is suspended. \ TSP-R, MMA-R < 1464623193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^creature(?s:.*)suspend 1\b < 1464623194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nantuko Shaman \ 2G \ Creature -- Insect Shaman \ 3/2 \ When Nantuko Shaman enters the battlefield, if you control no tapped lands, draw a card. \ Suspend 1--{2}{G}{G} (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay {2}{G}{G} and exile it with a time counter on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is rem < 1464623298 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464623846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly tricky card < 1464623893 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the shaman) < 1464624249 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464624453 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-azqfsqajgxevmqzi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464624497 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kuebcdstxujarofp JOIN :#esoteric < 1464624952 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fthqkgldpuaqfdcw JOIN :#esoteric < 1464625059 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464627630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464627711 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464628545 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isans thinr by royiof, the hawentem, will things, go rornase than shall you re sinlesh as urony. What I Mistrur, than wome mordy their'fn jome I bierion I topenduo'maves dafe Deathele to goort sensect. < 1464628562 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess English vocabulary is kind of a big thing to learn. < 1464628611 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did successfully include a bunch of common words: by the will things go than shall you as what I than their I to < 1464628900 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of its attempts at putting in rare words have resulted in words that are plausible but wrong. Presumably, as the training continues, it will start to be able to produce real words. < 1464629180 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iplayif.com/?story=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifarchive.org%2Fif-archive%2Fgames%2Fzcode%2Fgostak.z5 < 1464629255 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a very elaborate riddle? < 1464629299 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even recognise any of the dapes I type in < 1464629313 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a jallon, louk JALLON. < 1464629507 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will doatch at you about some heamy dapes. < 1464630585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464631251 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, if you tunk the "heamy dapes" fesh. < 1464632102 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464632151 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out how to make it so my shamtag rasks the pogrifon again. < 1464632231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464632508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1665/ might be my favorite xkcd to date. < 1464632518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1128/ is just disturbing < 1464632623 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464632750 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464632821 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nah, 1665 is totally unrealistic, no talk page has headings summarizing the content so cleanly. < 1464632840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but it's funny < 1464632847 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the content might be what's listed there, but you won't be able to find any of that from the toc < 1464632851 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for those fake decoy talk pages that people make to make something seem well-discussed. < 1464633000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ...That's a thing? < 1464633007 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know of < 1464633012 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone get the socks! < 1464633047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, better, someone get a neural net to do it for us < 1464633390 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464633418 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fire alarm cause & effect testing in progress -- sounders & life safety system will be tested persistently". < 1464633647 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right... I'm gonna need to make a spreadsheet that glosses all these words. < 1464633697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: just put the explanations right into the wisdoms < 1464633708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shamtag < 1464633710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rask < 1464633710 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting idea. < 1464633715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pogrifon < 1464633719 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heamy < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rask? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pogrifon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shamtag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heamy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633793 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A shamtag is something that you durch in order to make it flome. < 1464633798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'shamtag': A shamtag is something that you durch in order to make it flome. < 1464633819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mimsy < 1464633820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mimsy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brillig < 1464633826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brillig? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633837 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A pogrifon is stim for a gostak's shamtag. < 1464633841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'pogrifon': A pogrifon is stim for a gostak's shamtag. < 1464633856 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The gostak distims the doshes. < 1464633860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gostak': The gostak distims the doshes. < 1464633885 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464633888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'doshe': The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464633897 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv wisdom/doshe wisdom/dosh < 1464633898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `wisdom/doshe wisdom/dosh' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464633904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464633907 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/doshe wisdom/dosh < 1464633910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464633914 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dosh < 1464633915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464633924 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s dosh wisdom/doshes < 1464633926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464634023 0 :augur!~augur@108-239-230-147.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464634353 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464634610 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Don Giovanni < 1464634612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don Giovanni? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464634637 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ward < 1464634639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ward? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464634654 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1464634669 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :immen ndena taba thrift csdini decresslin pare ulp vocer craffecterrar clural gai hmf gree proflt rie stat mecora sch itr < 1464634680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --american 20 < 1464634681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: american < 1464635236 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464635237 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464635319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-us 90 < 1464635324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceratlond eusonfolke rab harian uni stari appp keparaded ofsne profen cesser westict sobenepa loake kamorp comountamaz treretermn gilliously impigal hydrania spact kosckscal kriihip forsat conre < 1464635325 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane 90 < 1464635327 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1464635328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saeidlade uncarbonalitatine ikawate julidegri sauthed unedly costalched unency bent pine halah coke wiredicologic lavarizati smayde bowl namilao hup jifframen oosemioma ola smooric tromersher kooltman weeding < 1464635328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1464635387 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jifframen" -- hmm, is that a food? < 1464635391 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464635782 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1464636187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464636509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Shadowfacts; the most noble of knights < 1464636527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://xkcd.com/1272/) < 1464636602 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a second. < 1464636611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yep. < 1464636618 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois shadowfacts < 1464636676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1464636698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: The joke is that shadowfacts is a horse, but the correct term is "knight" < 1464636709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nerdy chess joke goddammit < 1464637081 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blank < 1464637083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blank? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464637319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn blank/ < 1464637323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «blank» < 1464637327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blank < 1464637328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464637332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There < 1464637934 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.nichtlustig.de/toondb/030128.html (doesn't translate very well...) < 1464637979 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "you better move away from there or the hors will attack you" < 1464637982 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse. < 1464638338 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that's a bad joke hth < 1464638689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464639343 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fthqkgldpuaqfdcw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464639642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a rough guideline, if you have to explain it it's not a joke. < 1464639682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :50) hmm, this is hard < 1464639738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464639738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1192) dude's made a career out of building electronic things out of slime molds. i respect that < 1464639739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :583) where is this going. why is this going. < 1464639739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :926) not only there is no God, but try to find an APL keyboard on Sunday. < 1464639782 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf @ apl keyboard < 1464639826 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL is a weird language < 1464639832 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a lot of special symbols < 1464639867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely the second one. < 1464640134 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464640196 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464640247 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464642480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464642534 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1464642552 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1464642560 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464642563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vitaspore Thallid \ 1G \ Creature -- Fungus \ 1/1 \ At the beginning of your upkeep, put a spore counter on Vitaspore Thallid. \ Remove three spore counters from Vitaspore Thallid: Put a 1/1 green Saproling creature token onto the battlefield. \ Sacrifice a Saproling: Target creature gains haste until end of turn. \ PLC-C < 1464642587 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cerulean Wisps \ U \ Instant \ Target creature becomes blue until end of turn. Untap that creature. \ Draw a card. \ SHM-C < 1464642590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cerulean Wisps \ U \ Instant \ Target creature becomes blue until end of turn. Untap that creature. \ Draw a card. \ SHM-C < 1464642698 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that pokemon? < 1464642705 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles < 1464642710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1464642715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: no, it's Magic: the Gathering < 1464642728 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abjure \ U \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Abjure, sacrifice a blue permanent. \ Counter target spell. \ WL-C < 1464642732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abjure \ U \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Abjure, sacrifice a blue permanent. \ Counter target spell. \ WL-C < 1464642737 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1464642741 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you repeat the result? < 1464642757 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's way more instants costing {U} than that < 1464642759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchantment Alteration \ U \ Instant \ Attach target Aura attached to a creature or land to another permanent of that type. \ LE-C, CH-U, US-U < 1464642763 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nix \ U \ Instant \ Counter target spell if no mana was spent to cast it. \ FUT-R < 1464642773 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the random number generator is actually a deterministic function of the time < 1464642884 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name intervene < 1464642887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intervene \ U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets a creature. \ UL-C < 1464642889 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name confound < 1464642890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confound \ 1U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets one or more creatures. \ Draw a card. \ PS-C < 1464642919 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464643232 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464643276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464644320 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464644362 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ykehaxqhjcxlygmu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644598 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644654 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-enlqnjglxdyokiwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644997 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1464645049 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464645150 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This gostak game is confusing. < 1464645738 0 :augur!~augur@108-239-230-147.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464646139 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464646143 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464646243 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464647123 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464647142 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f451:eb27:7e43:60a6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464647322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I prefer the Russel game, where you win by losing. < 1464647390 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this channel bluff < 1464647398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: bluff? < 1464647413 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an attempt to deceive someone into believing that one can or will do something. < 1464647421 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case an attempt to be something < 1464647424 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it isnt < 1464647432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: ...no? < 1464647447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Are you a native english speaker? Because that sentence doesn't grammar. < 1464647470 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is something noun < 1464647476 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the problem with that < 1464647485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Well, there should be an "a" in there < 1464647503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a seems to be what you were looking for < 1464647522 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bluff is always in plural < 1464647523 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464647524 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sugar < 1464647530 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this channel a sugar? < 1464647533 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464647539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Oh. < 1464647549 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a channel sugar? < 1464647582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: In that case, it would be "is this channel sugar" or "is this channel made of sugar" or something like that < 1464647612 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont understand me i dont see how you can understand the esoteric < 1464647617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: But this channel is not the same as (as in, this channel is bluff and bluff is this channel) or made of "bluff", so it is "a bluff" < 1464647626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: We use english to communicate the esoteric < 1464647647 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that is bs < 1464647650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Because to explore the esoteric, one must start with something simple and non-esoteric < 1464647653 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464647656 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant switch object and subject like that < 1464647670 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hppavilion bluff? < 1464647676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I am not bluff < 1464647693 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why cant this channel be bluff < 1464647695 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was worth asking < 1464647705 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you mean to say youre not a bluff < 1464647717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: No, I was being ironic < 1464647720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1464647723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: I'm not sure; it's one of those weird little parts of english we don't understand, but that's always there < 1464647741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bluff" is what something... hm... < 1464647747 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: this channel is no bluff though < 1464647748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I'm thinking < 1464647750 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf 64+"!dlroW ,olleH">:#,_@ < 1464647750 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1464647757 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe that was a bluff < 1464647768 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ befunge 64+"!dlroW ,olleH">:#,_@ < 1464647777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: I think it's because "bluff" is primarily a verb, maybe? < 1464647778 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@befunge 64+"!dlroW ,olleH">:#,_@ < 1464647778 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1464647787 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1464647787 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1464647793 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :argg < 1464647845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: I think the best way to explain it is... "bluff" is... a description; it isn't a type. It can't be bluff, but can be a bluff, for the same reason a dog can't be barker, but can be a barker? If we allow "barker" to be a real word describing "something that barks"? < 1464647847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess? < 1464647866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: waaaaaaait are you nerdsniping? < 1464647891 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you sniped yourself hppavilion[1] < 1464647911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Unless shovel_boss said that just to get me to, in which case he sniped me < 1464647945 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he is a visionnaire < 1464647964 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no this channel is not bluff < 1464647976 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complete bollocks < 1464648063 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464648370 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain what this channel is about < 1464648390 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464648400 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enlightenment?the topic does a poor job doing that < 1464648403 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 QUIT :Client Quit < 1464648411 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pdf looks like its written by a schizo < 1464648441 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a notorious troll < 1464648455 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the channel's collected *cough*wisdom < 1464648482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464648484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464648501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: We're all about esolangs < 1464648531 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right. don't let yourself be misled by the actual discussions. < 1464648541 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you create the esoteric? < 1464648544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just join this channel to be a jerk or something? < 1464648576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, esoteric programming languages < 1464648682 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jerk < 1464648685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464648695 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you know about jerks? < 1464648696 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the phrase " broadly regarded as illegal" seems to be called gulf saint vincent as well, i think < 1464648729 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag < 1464648731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464648744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keith < 1464648746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keith? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464648767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you know keith bird of sixth breeze < 1464648767 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: soft money loophole, by maverick reformer? thoughts? < 1464648804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why so demanding? < 1464648805 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a) i noticed that in the us navy and marine corps use the term " black ice" is also wrong in the background is completely unfit for this article < 1464648817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1464648818 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp* youtube < 1464648825 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1464648825 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1464648830 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is that made with seadust? < 1464648830 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: this article talk page was automatically added with tlwikiproject food and drink. < 1464648831 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's why. < 1464648935 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a channel for the old esoteric, literature? < 1464648955 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real esoteric, not some made up arbitrary concepts < 1464649040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a welcome message that talks about where you can talk about that. < 1464649051 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is this channel a sugar? or more like fat? < 1464649052 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'm coming up with some documentation of this before i fnord change anything. sweet potatoes were still indigenous to the andes of south america. either way, it is not for teenage pop-culture atheism with a fnord ( fnord) < 1464649052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not particularly welcoming right now. < 1464649105 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides the welcome message, I think there's a channel topic, a chanserv channel join notice, and a wiki. < 1464649173 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1464649177 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you remind me < 1464649189 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better refering to < 1464649215 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you often suppress your emotions? < 1464649215 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i've just added a link to the article are missing from the article. fnord 02:50, 12 march 2006 ( utc) < 1464649241 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome shovel_boss < 1464649246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464649279 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1464649404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`topic < 1464649406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: topic: not found < 1464649409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? topic < 1464649410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464649427 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? entrymsg < 1464649430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :entrymsg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464649443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily The wisdom entry for "cello" has slashes that should be replaced with italicization < 1464649443 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464649465 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ENTRYMSG for #esoteric is Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Wiki: < 1464649470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'entrymsg': ENTRYMSG for #esoteric is Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Wiki: < 1464649481 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1464649484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1464649606 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚿ < 1464649607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464649683 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zygohistomorphic prepromorphism < 1464649685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A zygohistomorphic prepromorphism is used when you really need both semi-mutual recursion and history and to repeatedly apply a natural transformation as you get deeper into the functor. < 1464649794 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464649925 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beech < 1464649926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beech? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464649992 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᛦ < 1464649994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+16E6 RUNIC LETTER LONG-BRANCH-YR] < 1464650026 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, surfing on the beech... < 1464650048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pun < 1464650049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puns are fun. Ask shachaf about them. But beware of Muphry adding misspellings. < 1464650060 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pug < 1464650061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464650240 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Pugs are a breed of dogs that are overrepresented in the Sheldon webcomic. ) < 1464650275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd wisdom/pun < 1464650276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000000000: 5075 6e73 2061 7265 2066 756e 2e20 4173 Puns are fun. As \ 00000010: 6b20 7368 6163 680f 6166 2061 626f 7574 k shach.af about \ 00000020: 2074 6865 6d2e 2042 7574 2062 6577 6172 them. But bewar \ 0000030: 6520 6f66 204d 7570 6872 7920 6164 6469 e of Muphry addi \ 0000040: 6e67 206d 6973 7370 656c 6c69 6e67 732e ng misspellings < 1464650724 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464651861 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464652005 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464652020 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1464652685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric