< 1462060911 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462060925 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :koerjanbanha! < 1462060990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goorening < 1462061560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust hm < < 1462061561 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan.hm: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1462061652 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462061783 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So, the setting/update syntax in jq makes the whole thing look more like a sort of optics rather than arrows. < 1462061910 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462061958 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Kleisli arrow is not sufficient anyway because there are also exceptions. < 1462062019 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462062117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1462062148 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462062232 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` jq -cn '[1,[2,3],4,[[5,6],7]] | (recurse | arrays | .[0] | numbers) |= . + 10' < 1462062286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[11,[12,3],4,[[15,6],7]] < 1462062453 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462062465 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The filter on the left of the |= specifies paths, the items at which are updated by piping through the filter on the right. < 1462062533 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently the path specification is quite flexible. < 1462062566 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` jq -cn '[1,[2,3],4,[[5,6],7]] | (recurse | arrays) |= {children: .}' < 1462062568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jq: error (at ): Cannot index object with number < 1462062611 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, interesting. < 1462062666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a native english speaker: i'm seeing someone in wikipedia using the word "edition" to refer to particular years of a music festival, and that seems wrong to me. but i cannot think of the proper word to use... < 1462062696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, a confirmation that this is proper usage < 1462062766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries seaching for synonyms < 1462062796 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` jq -cn '[1,[2,3],4,[[5,6],7]] | ([recurse] | reverse | .[] | arrays) |= {children: .}' < 1462062797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jq: error (at ): Invalid path expression near attempt to access element 10 of [[1,[2,3],4,[[5,6],7]],1,[... < 1462062831 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok in a pinch i'll accept a non-native english speaker too, if they remember the proper word :P) < 1462062954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :version is the only general word but even that feels wrong for a festival < 1462062979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm synonyms for version, maybe < 1462063285 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` jq -cn 'def recurse_rev(f; cond): def r: (f | select(cond) | r), .; r; [1,[2,3],4,[[5,6],7]] | (recurse_rev(.[]?; . != null) | arrays) |= {children: .}' < 1462063287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​{"children":[1,{"children":[2,3]},4,{"children":[{"children":[5,6]},7]}]} < 1462063298 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray! < 1462063354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe instance leads somewhere... < 1462063389 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462063391 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I’m pretty sure I’ve heard “edition” referring to a festival before. < 1462063449 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: was it said by a native english speaker? because i suspect the paragramph i'm trying to correct was made by an italian. < 1462063453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-m < 1462063464 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t know. < 1462063467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it may actually be correct in that language. < 1462063478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(edizione can mean broadcast) < 1462063498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting closer: occasion _might_ work. < 1462063602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462063611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i _do_ find other uses. < 1462063619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides to just leave it. < 1462063630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was enough other grammar to correct, anyway. < 1462064220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* this only made me annoyed again, especially when thesaurus.com became dog slow... < 1462064355 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ghsmsebudbvrcfmi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462064357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could some of those people who occasionally keep telling me to get a real browser tell me: do either of firefox or gnome have the ability to _completely_ overrule web pages' ability to steal a particular interface shortcut such as left arrow or ctrl-click? < 1462064375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because those are starting to annoy me. < 1462064408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, < 1462064410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chrome < 1462064413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh :P < 1462064440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least the keys _are_ right next to each other.) < 1462064464 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462064546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "a particular", i mean that it doesn't require shutting off all javascript features or the like. < 1462064631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has obviously entered murphy's law mode again, as usual when he loses patience. < 1462064653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to take a deep breath and relax. < 1462064700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks murphy's law is just a facet of the law of attraction that happens when you allow yourself to become angry at things  < 1462064757 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii JOIN :#esoteric < 1462064927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to youtube where this all started and clicks the next song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZijylLTdcWk < 1462064963 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want the ability to wrap the JavaScript DOM with another JavaScript code < 1462065184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i suppose that would give the ability, although not very user-friendly < 1462065223 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense you'd want browser virtualization, right? < 1462065234 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, something like that < 1462065292 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462065418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messag < 1462065418 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages-loud messages? < 1462065460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message? < 1462065460 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages? messages < 1462065660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dt ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+. < 1462065660 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :.hs: 1: 1:Parse error: ++++++++ < 1462065665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ft ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+. < 1462065665 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wn v rc pl let id faq do bf @ ? . < 1462065672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@do ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+. < 1462065672 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :.hs: 1: 1:Parse error: ++++++++ < 1462065678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1462065915 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462066466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo hi < 1462066466 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi < 1462067041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/prefixes < 1462067049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/tail -n1 \ Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1462067075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail -n1 bin/prefixes >wisdom/prefixes < 1462067081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462067084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prefixes < 1462067088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1462067109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/prefixes/\? prefixes < 1462067112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1462067114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462067118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/prefixes//\? prefixes < 1462067122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/prefixes < 1462067125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1462067126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1462067208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, one less syntax confusion to have to distinguish < 1462067718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's getting warmer tomorrow < 1462067723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1462067723 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 302350Z 12010KT 080V140 9999 SCT055 BKN110 10/01 Q1022 RMK WIND 670FT 14012KT < 1462067782 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462067833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help defined < 1462067833 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1462067837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@defin < 1462067837 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Define what? < 1462067849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help def < 1462067849 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1462067852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help define < 1462067852 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :let = . Add a binding < 1462067927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e you know, it'd be more useful if @help did spelling corrections... < 1462067927 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462067999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e admittedly, that would ruin the challenge. < 1462067999 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462068008 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462068117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \p m -> maybe True p m == all p m < 1462068118 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> Bool) -> Maybe a -> Bool < 1462068270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \f x -> map f x == x < 1462068272 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1462068291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1462068311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there just were anyone here to get confused. < 1462068406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who do you want to confuse? < 1462068492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who needs a flabbergasting < 1462068501 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462068747 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462068798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> x ++ y == y ++ x < 1462068800 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1462069959 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462070138 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-90-185.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462070140 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462071247 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462073092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( ^def codeword ul (WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CANDY?)S ) < 1462075213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote let's force all arabs to adopt more reasonable orthography quintopia: No that is not the correct solution zzo38: oh. okay. thanks. < 1462075283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279) let's force all arabs to adopt more reasonable orthography quintopia: No that is not the correct solution zzo38: oh. okay. thanks. < 1462075684 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462076456 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462078848 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a lot more of UTCE specification (including parts of the encoding tables), although it is still far from completed < 1462078858 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can read what I have so far < 1462079187 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1462079770 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :yt < 1462079775 0 :yt!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1462080565 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462082035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462082043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a practical compiled language < 1462082058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want it to have nice new features < 1462082068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. array programming in a C-like language < 1462083166 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462083279 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PART #esoteric : < 1462083393 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462083775 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat feeling when you fix a bug thats been bothering you for days < 1462084563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh... < 1462084588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried and retried to get a GCC cross-compiler working so many times that I'm beginning to understand the commands I'm executing < 1462084600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sucks... < 1462085568 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The communist hands are: royal flush, ace-high straight containing all suits, four of a kind and an ace, four aces and a king. < 1462085776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462086794 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462086895 0 :etherealyn!~etherealy@158.181.227.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462087059 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462087251 0 :etherealyn!~etherealy@158.181.227.252 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1462087793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462088370 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462088554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily ][>:=~+ < 1462088554 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462088737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fancy hairstyle < 1462091223 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-90-185.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462091250 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-90-185.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462092176 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462092194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1462092276 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462092450 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*looks at prices of static RAM chips* for some reason I don't think BytePusher will be getting an implementation in hardware for quite a while... < 1462092587 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing a quick search for a dynamic RAM shows the closest thing is a VG3617801CT (2MiB)... 8 of them would be needed, and: it's a dynamic RAM anyway! < 1462092948 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BytePusher hardware would still need some kind of adding because it is using instructions which cannot be aligned. < 1462092971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs an increment, yes. < 1462092987 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it needs... let me think... < 1462093038 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 A Address read clocks (DDR means 1.5 but let's ignore that for now), 3 B Address read clocks, 2 clocks for R/W, 3 more clocks for jump address... < 1462093070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is assuming a simple model of "memory takes 1 clock" (which is reasonable since every cycle does a memory access) < 1462093096 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, every... ok, the point is, every single time whatever magical "do stuff" signal happens, a memory access happens) < 1462093130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, except every 65536 instructions, the CPU has to be disconnected from the memory bus for video and audio hardware... < 1462093202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be honest, the only nice thing about BytePusher by the look of this is that the 216-colour palette leaves room for "special signal values" when doing sprites. < 1462093224 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except, of course, that's if you're writing a program, not if playing around with the idea of building hardware. < 1462093372 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462093494 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then the 216-colour palette means you need memory for some sort of conversion table (division is hard) < 1462093509 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1462093541 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think BytePusher will be getting a hardware version anytime soon < 1462093563 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462093652 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And whatever hardware it's built with has to be capable of transferring, as a conservative estimate, 45MiB per second.) < 1462093925 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least I worked out how on earth to keep the dynamic RAM refreshing if need be. Last I read it was operated in pages, and luckily audio is a consistent set of 256 accesses sprinkled into a frame, so just make the lowest byte of an address the page, and disable output on all but 1 chip but still cause the accesses. Requires the layout of the memory to be x-chips-per-MiB, though.) < 1462094034 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462094158 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ah. Wikipedia explains it as being divided into rows, and all bits in a row are read at the same time. So, use chips with 256 or lower amount of "rows", and the audio cycles can handle refresh.) < 1462094178 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that also requires that the chips are OK with being refreshed 60 times per second, no more.) < 1462094249 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(..."often 64 ms". Way more than enough time.) < 1462094291 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462096671 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462097379 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462097460 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462097557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462097749 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462097817 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462098029 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462099810 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462099866 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: your estimate is a bit off: for each instruction, you need to read 9 bytes; then you need to read and write a byte (random access) for the data, and then another 3 bytes to update the PC... so that's already 14 bytes... the hardware also has to deal with reading the pixels for display, so 65536 * 15 B * 60/s ~ 60MiB/s... < 1462099917 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462099919 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I think the problem is with people who deliberately misspell commands. < 1462099919 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462099937 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tall gamemanj unknown height < 1462099937 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1462100190 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462100317 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'd like for every @ping misspelling to change the "pong" reply in an analogous way. < 1462100416 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462100706 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462100715 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462101303 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462101625 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462101916 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462101996 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462102185 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462103884 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462103941 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate incosistent websites. < 1462103978 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, the next task of the League Of Evil Typesetters: Create a typesetting tool that works inconsistently on websites... < 1462103986 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but completely cosistently. < 1462103993 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why are window.close events still a thing < 1462104058 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do you want to close this website" "I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THAT WEBSITE BUT SINCE I CAN NOT DO THAT PLEASE LET ME AT LEAST CLOSE MY WINDOW" < 1462104137 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Consistently inconsistent? < 1462104160 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: "consistent" "cosistent" < 1462104176 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, cosistently inconsistent < 1462104210 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that "cosistent" doesn't seem to be anything other than a misspelling =P < 1462104292 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's the inversive of cosistent < 1462104301 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a cosistent has something to do with cosinus < 1462104381 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-sistent? < 1462104454 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462104475 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does that mean mroman hates consistent websites, or... < 1462104477 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1462104913 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462105189 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462106625 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: did you miss the point where we no longer build websites... but web applications? of course you want to display "you've modified your data, did you want to save it?" dialogs. < 1462106786 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Why not just move data about "live" if it's a "it must stay connected" app, < 1462106795 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: or save the data to local storage... < 1462106829 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better, have an in-built revision control system. No need to do a diff, you have the edits being streamed in from your app's frontend... < 1462106857 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :View <-> RCS (Storage + RCS functions) <-> Storage < 1462106921 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's much easier to just display a popup and then lose the data < 1462106995 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To my mind the mistake is completely captured by the term "application" in "web application". You can make improvements from that premise, but you wont end up with anything good. < 1462107011 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates the versioned web, obviously. < 1462107094 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I say "versioned" because I'm not sure whether we still call it 2.0) < 1462107828 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web 2.b < 1462107911 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to call it Web math.sin(os.time() / (60 * 60 * 24)) + 1 < 1462107920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on, sorry, messed up there < 1462107944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to call it Web 1.9507776867409 < 1462108026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alternately, if you like to discriminate based on time but not date: math.sin((os.time() / (60 * 60 * 24)) * 6.28318) + 1 ) < 1462108178 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I think you meant cos < 1462108185 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooooo < 1462108190 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1462108195 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it matter? < 1462108204 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a difference in alignment < 1462108217 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I really didn't care about which values came out < 1462108246 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I was thinking that os.time() / (60 * 60 * 24) would give a really small value, but that must be just my tiredness < 1462108268 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's meant to give a really small value at the right time < 1462108277 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as the epoch < 1462108293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...actually, that's it < 1462108296 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only time < 1462108313 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the day after the epoch it'll be 1 < 1462108407 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use + 2 instead of + at the end if you really think the whole universe is at least web 1.0 < 1462108417 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(correction: instead of + 1) < 1462108443 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt using + 3 is anywhere near correct < 1462108982 0 :mroman!b2c6818f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.198.129.143 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462109971 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462110557 0 :wifi_qjh!~qjh_wLAN@113.75.213.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462110615 0 :wifi_qjh!~qjh_wLAN@113.75.213.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you < 1462110661 0 :wifi_qjh!~qjh_wLAN@113.75.213.241 PART #esoteric : < 1462110684 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462110941 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw the topic, perhaps < 1462111733 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462112893 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462113306 0 :jasa!~a@2001:638:804:20e0::e9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462113382 0 :jasa!~a@2001:638:804:20e0::e9 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1462114619 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1462114743 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-90-185.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462114934 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-198-11.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462115366 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462115654 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462117041 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462120197 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohayoily! < 1462120436 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, when did someone invent a kanji form for ぐぐる < 1462120524 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably long ago? < 1462120529 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: people invent kanji for everything < 1462120582 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: what you're missing here is the verb "guguru" (to google) ewas inventd very recently < 1462120615 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll have done a number on the Unicode people < 1462120626 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, but I think some people think there should be kanji for everything, even for words that are normally always written in kana < 1462120839 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462121145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q12136872052 oh I forgot to post what I was reading < 1462121217 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah some aouthor decided that 繰繰る is a good way to spell it < 1462121242 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to be common however < 1462121653 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\コレンにちは\! < 1462121659 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes bohayoily < 1462121664 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462121664 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 9h 11m 49s ago: ][>:=~+ < 1462121680 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask hppavilion[1] eh? < 1462121680 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462121750 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :繰 [JIS] 372B [Uni] 7e70 [部首] 120 [教育] 8 [画数] 19 [音] ソウ [訓] く.る [名] くり [英] winding; reel; spin; turn (pages); look up; refer to < 1462121767 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ it has "look up" and "refer to" in its definitions. makes sense. < 1462121830 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Caesura < 1462121841 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1462121884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Caesura: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1462121909 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time here? < 1462122102 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1462122104 0 :Caesura!?@? NICK :Kaynato < 1462122111 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irc client renames me automatically, sometimes < 1462122169 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dao >S< < 1462122172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462122187 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed a tiny segfaulting program in daoyu, recently < 1462122197 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynatello, Cællosura! < 1462122217 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dao $()>:S< < 1462122220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1462122232 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua "\x01ACTION falls asleep\x01" < 1462122233 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lua: cannot open "\x01ACTION falls asleep\x01": No such file or directory < 1462122241 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is happy to code in unsegfaulting languages < 1462122250 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :``lua -e "\x01ACTION falls asleep\x01" < 1462122252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `lua: not found < 1462122254 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's strange, since it doesn't segfault on my computer < 1462122263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` lua -e "print(\"\x01ACTION falls asleep\x01\")" < 1462122265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ACTION falls asleep. < 1462122265 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know where this is occuring... < 1462122268 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``gdb < 1462122271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `gdb: not found < 1462122276 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo really does not want to fall asleep. < 1462122292 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I open valgrind? < 1462122313 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is eternal. HackEgo does not sleep. All Hail HackEgo (except when hailing fungot). < 1462122313 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know someone who happens to know < 1462122334 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of course you know. you're our All-Seing Eye. < 1462122335 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you want to do quotas for memory. akin to fnord you have no fingerprints on a camera? ( i was talking < 1462122360 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: well, there is one way... download the binary for dao, hope it runs, then replicate the results locally? < 1462122369 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: (Note: Probably not a good idea) < 1462122395 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been compiling the same here.... < 1462122433 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: Should that print "001"? < 1462122440 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-151-249.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462122462 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1462122475 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's probably not the same bitness issue that previous one was. < 1462122485 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because that's what it does locally for me.) < 1462122490 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet it segfaults from here, which is strange < 1462122563 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-198-11.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462122570 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1462122593 0 :tromp_!~tromp@24.190.11.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462122848 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: STARRY CHICKEN < 1462122854 0 :tromp_!~tromp@24.190.11.216 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462123071 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cnsbkzqtigozbgjk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462123211 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw JOIN :#esoteric < 1462125421 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462125720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462125722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endian < 1462125727 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eggian < 1462125759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eggian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462125763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462125765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta/meta is about < 1462125782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? random < 1462125785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462125795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1462125797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is supercalifragilisticexpialidociouszU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ (There. Compromise.) < 1462125832 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jq < 1462125834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jq? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462125841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tribble < 1462125845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tribble? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462126112 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tribble/99 tribbles on the wall, take one down, pass it around, 117 tribbles on the wall. < 1462126118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tribble» < 1462126162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462127798 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462128123 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-151-249.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462128739 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-151-249.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462128775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense... < 1462129208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46897&oldid=46896 5* 03H3LL 5* (+0) 10/* Confusion */ < 1462129271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46898&oldid=46897 5* 03H3LL 5* (+1) 10 < 1462129366 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tribbles are born pregnant and have an average litter of 10 < 1462129411 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how do you end up at 117? < 1462129503 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-151-249.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462129616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, by having -- while the one was being passed around -- two of the wall-tribbles give birth, to litters of sizes 7 and 11, respectively. < 1462129632 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462129668 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why only two of them? < 1462129681 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? It doesn't take that long to pass a tribble around, I don't think. < 1462129693 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462130207 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462130259 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :They give birth every hour too iirc < 1462130283 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462130666 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@84.51.143.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462130709 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could argue it likely takes something like one and a half minutes to pass one around, if two gave birth during that time. < 1462131006 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462131038 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462131165 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:75e4:1d54:9795:9598 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462131951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46899&oldid=46898 5* 03H3LL 5* (-1) 10/* Comparison operator */ < 1462132240 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462132863 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462133230 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462133296 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462133820 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462133826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46900&oldid=46876 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+21) 10/* C */ < 1462134387 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462134644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46901&oldid=46899 5* 03H3LL 5* (+403) 10/* Example programs */ < 1462136864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spoon < 1462136866 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1462136932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1462136932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462137010 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462137241 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? secret < 1462137244 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462137269 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` touch wisdom/secret; chmod 000 wisdom/secret < 1462137283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462137292 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? secret < 1462137296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462137311 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462137318 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la wisdom/secret < 1462137322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/secret: No such file or directory < 1462137349 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, perhaps mercurial had trouble with that would-be commit < 1462137423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462137506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 000 wisdom/cake < 1462137508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462137509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -l 1 < 1462137513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 7637:62e9db64acb2 \ tag: tip \ user: HackBot \ date: Sun May 01 17:08:36 2016 +0000 \ summary: le/rn tribble/99 tribbles on the wall, take one down, pass it around, 117 tribbles on the wall. < 1462137605 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1462137607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cake: Permission denied < 1462137626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462137628 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1462137630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462137631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1462137636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cake: Permission denied < 1462137641 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1462137654 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you guys doing to that poor HackEgo again? < 1462137654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1462137655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*tsjørp* < 1462137658 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is this canary thing about? < 1462137659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod 000 canary < 1462137662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462137676 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: mynamello. it's a canary hth < 1462137693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does canary things < 1462137696 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: as a clue, try deleting it < 1462137705 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then try deleting it and something else at the same time < 1462137707 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the error on revert < 1462137713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; list < 1462137715 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... why? < 1462137749 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help! < 1462137750 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i can understand a fnord approach for really trivial stuff, who cares. we have just delayed their construction so that their kids can still make off it < 1462137758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] Phantom_Hoover int-e b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname < 1462137762 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a bigger clue < 1462137762 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who cares, hackego's slow... < 1462137762 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i don't think they look very like latin x nowadays, too.) < 1462137764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1462137773 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm * < 1462137780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `bin': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `cdescs': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `emoticons': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `esobible': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `etc': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `evil': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `factor': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `good': Is a directo < 1462137783 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462137787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ :-( \ !\.´ \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share \ Someth < 1462137794 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: figured it out yet? < 1462137808 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary wisdom/cake < 1462137841 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get what's special about canary < 1462137867 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: you're supposed to say "No output." here... < 1462137870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: remove write-protected regular file `wisdom/cake'? < 1462137874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1462137881 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -f canary wisdom/cake < 1462137886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462137891 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1462137899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1462137909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1462137909 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 4h 30m 29s ago: eh? < 1462137947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462137947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462137948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462137949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462137949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462137964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ][>:=~+ < 1462137980 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -la canary < 1462137991 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it some sort of built-in protection to revert any command that deletes everything? < 1462138003 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hppavellon[1]. ???????? < 1462138011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *sigh* < 1462138013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=177 < 1462138032 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! heh :D < 1462138039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Orso 5* 10New user account < 1462138056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462138089 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: b_jhellonas. it protects. may be related to SCP-███ hth. < 1462138094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's not funny. < 1462138100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's tragic < 1462138147 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah < 1462138160 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1462138166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462138168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462138168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462138170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l/L is far too short to be a village in Wales. < 1462138170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainf**k/There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck. < 1462138175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46902&oldid=46901 5* 03H3LL 5* (+0) 10/* Accessing to the registries */ < 1462138183 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462138200 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a stew, usually eaten with injera. < 1462138217 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` env | grep IRC < 1462138221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462138275 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand a word < 1462138299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kinds of things would Mad Scientific Computing use? < 1462138509 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Gluten extract! < 1462138518 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/src/99a9363fd27d9e56c99361e6f780dff8ac18e2f1/multibot_cmds/PRIVMSG/tr_60.cmd?at=default#tr_60.cmd-89 < 1462138683 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... why? < 1462138700 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :FireyFly < 1462138707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: SCIENCE DOES NOT CONCERN ITSELF WITH "WHY"! < 1462138715 0 :zgrep!?@? NICK :FireFIy < 1462138730 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why are you saying that? < 1462138743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: BECAUSE... SCIENCE! < 1462138744 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm like 90% sure that's what science is, just asking why a bunch of times < 1462138756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: That's philosophy < 1462138761 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets out popcorn and marshmallows < 1462138775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to roast marshmallows on the flames of the flame war? < 1462138775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: Science is "what" and "how", but not "why" < 1462138777 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :science is "why", engineering is "how", management is "when". < 1462138779 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's popcorn. < 1462138788 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess I confused why with how < 1462138791 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maple flavour popcorn. < 1462138799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i one-dimensional mathematics does not concern itself with "why" < 1462138802 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the apple fall from the tree? < 1462138803 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, sorry, I only have toffee here. < 1462138825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1462138838 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives boily the bag of popcorn, and grabs some maple syrup < 1462138842 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I can build you an apple faller machine. < 1462138846 0 :FireyFly!?@? NICK :hcwddeh < 1462138854 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sounds interesting < 1462138854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lol < 1462138861 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's engineering now < 1462138863 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION then pours the syrup all over the popcorn, so the bag of popcorn is also filled with syrup < 1462138874 0 :hcwddeh!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1462138879 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1462138890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maple(-syrup) flavoured popcorn < 1462138895 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with extra syrup < 1462138904 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, science is all about "why"... "why should I spend my time on listening to your ideas rather than theirs?" < 1462138910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46903&oldid=46902 5* 03H3LL 5* (+29) 10 < 1462138959 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION meanwhile gets a stick, impales an innocent marshmallow onto it, and then puts it into the flames of the debate < 1462138977 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is practicalism! < 1462139012 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... probably should've gotten a second marshmallow... < 1462139013 0 :FireFIy!?@? NICK :zgrep < 1462139031 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes the marshmallow out of the flames, and waits for it to cool down < 1462139065 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how long that was, it'll probably be nice and crispy by now < 1462139085 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462139115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, int-e, you realize that's closer to management? "why should I spend my time on listening to your ideas when I can just fire you?" < 1462139146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two sides, same coin! < 1462139154 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION noms the marshmallow < 1462139723 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hurts but there's some truth to it < 1462139739 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's "management" in "time management" too... < 1462139945 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1462140257 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1462140257 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the second is something that can't be expressed with syntax-rules? < 1462140287 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Nostril that can be expressed through syntax-rules is not the True Nostril. < 1462140348 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:75e4:1d54:9795:9598 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462140434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, seconds can't be expressed via syntax-rules either last I checked < 1462140449 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends, do you prefer ice cream or tomatoes? < 1462140459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, not that kind of seconds, time :) < 1462140687 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462140703 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1462140718 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462141117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Confusion14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46904 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+314) 10Created talk page < 1462141293 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1462142281 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462142803 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_helloover < 1462142868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello quintopia < 1462142943 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nostril < 1462142949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nostril? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462143019 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [sin phi^3 | phi <- [0,0.1..pi]] / 10 -- amazed how close this comes to 4/3 < 1462143021 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.333333524920473 < 1462143477 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462143480 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we have a nostril entry? < 1462143789 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462143926 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462143953 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462144214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now seem to have to build grub < 1462144218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've figured out how < 1462144244 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: err, what are you trying to do? (also your nick is annoying to type without tab complete) < 1462144261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|netcat: Yay for annoyingness! < 1462144262 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462144264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|netcat: OS dev. < 1462144281 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that makes sense < 1462144282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|netcat: the wiki says I need grub, so I got the source from the ftp.gnu.org < 1462144285 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a VM, I hope? < 1462144291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|netcat: Yes, of course xD < 1462144315 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I guess there's a case to be used for using UEFI as the bootloader nowadays rather than GRUB (for example, Linux is bootable like this) < 1462144317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|netcat: And now I'm just following the configure/make/install process that is permanently burned into my corneas < 1462144406 0 :ais523|netcat!~ais523@147.188.254.243 QUIT :Quit: trying out an "upgraded client" < 1462144457 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462144574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes that he isn't doing it the stupid way < 1462144592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waited to send that message until ais523|rlwrap (or ais523 of any variety) came back online < 1462144626 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the middle of a distro upgrade < 1462144651 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things are breaking randomly, including most of my GUI programs (surprisingly, Firefox is holding up just fine, but qwebirc isn't working on it for some reason) < 1462144710 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what distro < 1462144717 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu < 1462144722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion: what? you don't have to build grub. just use a pre-built binary. < 1462144738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: that's why you gotta nixos hth < 1462144758 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people actually use nixos? < 1462144920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: On windows? Can't find any < 1462144941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm trying to get grub-mkrescue, and "grub" was the only directory on the gnu ftp that seemed like it might have that. < 1462144961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION braces for impact < 1462145016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there are grub binaries you can write on a floppy or cd or usb drive or something, and boot from them, and install grub that way < 1462145016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What am I doing wrong? < 1462145022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the windows thing doesn't matter < 1462145039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm using an emulator. I don't even /have/ a floppy disk drive (or a cd drive, for that matter) < 1462145054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And is grub the program that'll get me grub-mkrescue? < 1462145137 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what? an emulator makes it EASIER to have a floppy drive these days < 1462145146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Um, huh? < 1462145159 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: By "floppy disk" you mean an actual floppy disk, correct? The thing made out of matter? < 1462145159 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a hardware floppy drive in this house (although I could buy one), but I have a floppy drive in emulated machines < 1462145159 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own a USB floppy drive, and have used it on occasoin < 1462145166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ah < 1462145184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but it doesn't have to be a floppy, it can be a cd or dvd or a pendrive < 1462145191 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't get why you need to compile anything if you want to use it in a vm < 1462145193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you just need a different image than for floppy drive < 1462145195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But you haven't answered my question. < 1462145236 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for an emulated machine, you don't need an actual hardware floppy disk. to boot a hardware machine (not en emulated one), you'd use a real floppy disk or a real cd or dvd < 1462145240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: According to the os dev wiki (wiki.osdev.org), I need grub-mkrescue to boot the kernel (or maybe to make it bootable, not sure which, haven't gotten that far yet) < 1462145259 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason to compile grub on windows is to actually use grub for booting windows < 1462145264 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i assume you won't < 1462145266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, for "Building a bootable cdrom image" < 1462145274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: So is grub not the thing with grub-mkrescue? < 1462145280 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: GRUB doesn't boot Windows, it chain-loads it < 1462145293 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grub is a thung that lets you boot oses first of all < 1462145299 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: yeah < 1462145299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, I knew that < 1462145320 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still doesn't make any sense to build grub on windows instead of loading a binary < 1462145328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It was the first thing that came to mind < 1462145342 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I assume that GRUB binaries are OS-agnostic? < 1462145343 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be because you can't linux < 1462145360 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: that's the point < 1462145378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: sort of < 1462145392 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are os-agnostic binaries to download and he just compiles stuff on a windows machine < 1462145397 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't make sense < 1462145406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: there's the grub you boot from bios or stuff, but there are also versions of grub you boot from an operating system, like one you boot from linux and one you boot from dos < 1462145444 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, but then again: there are binaries for grib4dos < 1462145446 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: the latter kind are useful for installers that run under an operating system, because they're used to install the first kind of grub to your machine without having to reboot to run the first kind of grub < 1462145456 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: but if you're installing grub by hand, then I recommend the former < 1462145484 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The grub running from dos is also useful because it can actually boot an operating system. The grub under linux doesn't do that.) < 1462145491 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the former and latter? I can't find it in scrollback < 1462145507 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly because I can't easily find anything in scrollback with this client) < 1462145517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: former is the grub you boot from bios, the latter is grub running under an operating system as a process < 1462145523 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like Vorpal :-P < 1462145542 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise that GRUB could run inside an OS < 1462145580 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: linux installers often run grub on linux < 1462145590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: that grub can't boot anything, but it can install grub < 1462145594 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why they run it < 1462145602 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it can usually install grub. there are ways it can go wrong.) < 1462145606 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo dawg < 1462145612 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard you like grub < 1462145635 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that GRUB's installer can run on Linux, but normally I consider the installer to be separate from the program itself < 1462145648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: it's basically the same program, with some parts replaced < 1462145677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: and there's a grub running under dos which can actually boot operating systems, but that's easier because you know DOS < 1462145714 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well GRUB running under UEFI can boot OSes too, and that's actually a common configuration < 1462145724 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but UEFI is somewhere between an OS and a BIOS in terms of functionality < 1462145734 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: yep, the grub under DOS is a strange eso-beast < 1462145742 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recommend actually using it < 1462145747 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to boot a linux from dos, I recommend loadlin < 1462145772 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or just reboot from dos into bios < 1462145776 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange eso-beasts are the sort of thing we love here though < 1462145785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: yes, I know < 1462145801 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking into EFI a bunch, been considering writing my own rEFIt-alike < 1462145807 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with end to end security < 1462145811 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like termbot, which runs dos in irc) < 1462145814 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secure Boot is weird, though < 1462145836 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, there's an issue under Linux atm where the recommended API for setting Secure Boot variables is capable of creating new ones < 1462145847 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not changing the value of existing ones, even if you have permission to do so < 1462145862 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping that the current Ubuntu upgrade will fix that < 1462145986 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forth hex bl a + emit < 1462145988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* < 1462145989 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's allegedly a good idea, because "blat" (bl a +) is mnemonical for *. < 1462146031 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo this is a test of what HackEgo's invisible characters look like < 1462146032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a test of what HackEgo's invisible characters look like < 1462146043 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, there weren't any < 1462146053 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there are < 1462146055 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, that I could see < 1462146059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uh what? < 1462146064 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm using cat -v < 1462146066 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's invisible < 1462146089 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but I thought cat -v didn't understand Unicode < 1462146098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo kat < 1462146101 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case it wouldn't know they were meant to be invisible and thus would visify them < 1462146144 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: There's no invisible characters for ^[a-z]. < 1462146148 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some-such. < 1462146155 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try starting with, say, >. < 1462146168 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462146186 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo > 2 < 1462146188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​> 2 < 1462146194 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, now I see them < 1462146203 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462146204 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo lambdabot: @help < 1462146205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @help < 1462146205 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1462146213 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not perfect. :) < 1462146214 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric : err < 1462146225 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no, that did get lambdabot to respond < 1462146233 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I'd forgotten the @echo < 1462146237 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn wat/ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚሰራ የምግብ አይነት ሲሆን፣ የሚሰራውም ከጤፍ ነው። < 1462146245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «wat» < 1462146248 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did someone mention yolo? maybe one day I should bring termbot here. only I should change its invocation character to something different. < 1462146258 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does @where work? < 1462146263 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if we build a two-step quine for lambdabot and hackego we might botspam? < 1462146267 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates his latex guts. let's see how I can make that one work... < 1462146268 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the botloop urge again < 1462146272 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because backtick clashes with hackego < 1462146299 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: bring in your bot for great good! < 1462146300 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: lambdabot's bot-loop prevention is more robust, I think. < 1462146308 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: please note that ~ is mine hth < 1462146314 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where ais523 < 1462146314 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ais523. < 1462146320 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help where < 1462146320 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :where . Return element associated with key < 1462146325 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think I should use for the invocation character? right square bracket maybe, because I used that for evalj? < 1462146326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: IMHO, if LaTeX makes it difficult to print a character, it's pretty shitty system. < 1462146329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or yen sign? < 1462146337 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help set < 1462146337 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1462146347 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because in some ascii-like character sets yen sign is in the palce of backtick) < 1462146349 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1462146349 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1462146356 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help list < 1462146357 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :list [module|command]. Show commands for [module] or the module providing [command]. < 1462146365 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list where < 1462146365 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :where provides: where url what where+ < 1462146384 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I bring termbot here, then you'll be very angry at me < 1462146387 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kick me out of here < 1462146392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's really a yolo thing < 1462146428 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ais523test `indirecho PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ais523test `echo lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146428 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1462146434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :With all the bots, there should probably be a bot allocating prefixes. < 1462146436 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where ais523test < 1462146436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`indirecho PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ais523test `echo lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: indirecho: not found < 1462146455 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no no, it should be a distributed protocol with no central bot < 1462146473 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk/x bin/PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/indirecho echo "$@" < 1462146474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/mk/x: No such file or directory < 1462146480 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/indirecho echo "$@" < 1462146482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1462146482 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: some people switched from LaTeX to one of the newer macro systems with full Unicode support out-of-the-hbox, but I stick with the one I know. < 1462146482 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: only a meta-channel where the bots argue with each other about the prefixes < 1462146488 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462146489 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sentimental attachment and all that. < 1462146500 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/PRIVMSG//bin/indirecho echo "$@" < 1462146505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/PRIVMSG < 1462146514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Only full unicode support? Lame. < 1462146523 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/indirecho//echo "$@" < 1462146530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/indirecho < 1462146538 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`indirecho test 1 test 2 < 1462146539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test 1 test 2 < 1462146546 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where ais523test < 1462146546 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`indirecho PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ais523test `echo lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ais523test `echo lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo(echo(echo(echo))) < 1462146552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: echo(echo(echo(echo))): not found < 1462146573 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is confusing, I'm dealing with two levels of escaping at once < 1462146598 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ais523test `indirecho lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146598 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1462146604 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where ais523test < 1462146604 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`indirecho lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146607 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`indirecho lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146608 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :`indirecho lambdabot: @where ais523test < 1462146608 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +q :*!*@162.248.166.242 < 1462146624 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/indirecho < 1462146631 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tht would've been simpler. < 1462146633 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -q :*!*@162.248.166.242 < 1462146638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for termbot, I should add a simple wrapper script to it that compiles and runs a C program < 1462146648 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;I < 1462146653 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote an echo wrapper for a reason :-P < 1462146656 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, a program you type as an argument < 1462146682 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I thought lambdabot had anti-botloop protection which caused it to temporarily part (quit?) if it thought it was in a botloop < 1462146696 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it won't work < 1462146704 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ? < 1462146706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problme is that dos has a really short limit on command line length < 1462146721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: But halting problem etc. < 1462146755 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, are codu's logs working? < 1462146755 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot loops, hah! < 1462146760 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need bot loops for termbot < 1462146763 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the whole point < 1462146768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot is noisy all alone < 1462146782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`palpatine < 1462146783 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've pretty much lost track of this channel < 1462146783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: palpatine: not found < 1462146785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can type it a six character long command to make it emit pages of junk < 1462146797 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but stalker mode isn't showing recent messages < 1462146808 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: They've been broken for a while, I think. < 1462146825 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: Gregor's been equally absent, and glogbot (or whatever the name was) isn't here. < 1462146829 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, not showing anything since April < 1462146837 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about glogbackup? Also missing? < 1462146840 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also. < 1462146873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think you're right, and it did have a "part if in a loop" heuristic, but it seems to take at least 5 repetitions to activate. < 1462146876 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462146879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It" being lambdabot. < 1462146890 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the first it. < 1462147005 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tunes.org logs are working, but they don't have stalker mode. < 1462147045 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :view-source:http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.05.01 seems to work < 1462147059 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the view-source: Firefox thinks it's a video for some reason < 1462147097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic numbers? < 1462147236 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :file(1) says "data". Must be all them control characters or something. < 1462147261 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's properly "Content-Type: text/plain" and all. < 1462147415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well. < 1462147425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like qemu supports booting without grub < 1462147446 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not like GRUB is required to make most OSes work < 1462147460 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think only Hurd has it as a "native" bootloader, and maybe some of the BSDs? < 1462147503 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: I think openbsd has its own bootloader, it doesn't require grub < 1462147520 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no os requires grub in particular < 1462147521 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about other bsds < 1462147579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: a bsd with grub as its default boot loader sounds like it would be anachronistic to me, but it's certainly possible with some of these fancy new bsd-based thingies < 1462147580 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Hurd required GRUB in particular < 1462147592 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that GRUB was originally written for it but ended up branching out < 1462147598 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC recent syslinux can also do multiboot loading, so it should work for Hurd. < 1462147622 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many OSes actually support multiboot? < 1462147624 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: really? dunno < 1462147649 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently FreeBSD and NetBSD kernels are multiboot capable. < 1462147661 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some people /wanted/ it to become a standard, but I don't think it actually did < 1462147665 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *incentive* for it being in syslinux though, is Xen. < 1462147672 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xen can only be booted using multiboot. < 1462147812 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't xen have its own bootloader or something? < 1462147835 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UEFI is arguably a bootloader standard (among the other things it does) < 1462147851 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as Windows, Linux and OS X support it nowadays, that makes it quite a widely supported standard < 1462147864 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No. < 1462147958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|rlwrap: yeah, and before that, the pc bios boot thing from cdroms (and dvds) is also sort of a bootloader standard, only simpler < 1462148236 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1462148581 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462148654 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462148726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462148883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1462148883 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 13h 36m 4s ago: I think the problem is with people who deliberately misspell commands. < 1462149202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462149204 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462149226 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462149257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rlwrap? < 1462149334 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462149665 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462149716 0 :ais523|rlwrap!~ais523@147.188.254.243 QUIT :Quit: apparently Konversation is working again now < 1462150101 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462150151 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462150516 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOLO! < 1462150521 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462150522 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]help < 1462150522 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: guest machine now booting < 1462150526 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150526 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\>help < 1462150526 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Termbot connects you to an emulated machine you can fully control from irc. Be bold in experimenting, anything you do can be reverted. < 1462150526 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use a line with right square bracket prefix in the #sandbot channel to give commands, normally just text that is entered on the terminal. Using backtick in the line allows for some escapes and commands. < 1462150526 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special characters: `q = backtick, `o = eof (^Z), `r = enter, `t = tab, `b = backspace, `i = interrupt (^C), `e = escape, `x1f = any byte by hex code. < 1462150531 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special commands: `h = suppress automatic return at end of this line, `.d = turn power off, `.ry = off and revert disk to original. < 1462150534 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so going to be kicked out for this < 1462150535 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-The machine currently has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler and the TPC pascal compiler. < 1462150537 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use the SDIR or VDIR commands to list directories. < 1462150539 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150565 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]edlin hi.c < 1462150565 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin hi.c < 1462150565 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-New file < 1462150565 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150572 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]i < 1462150572 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+i < 1462150572 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 1:* < 1462150599 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a verbose version of ed? < 1462150603 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]#include `rint main(){printf("hello, world\n");return 0;}`r`o < 1462150603 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+#include < 1462150603 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 2:*int main(){printf("hello, world\n");return 0;} < 1462150603 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 3:*^Z < 1462150604 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150609 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: yes, with much fewer commands < 1462150613 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]? < 1462150613 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+? < 1462150613 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Edit line line# < 1462150613 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Append [#lines]A < 1462150613 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Copy [startline],[endline],toline[,times]C < 1462150613 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Delete [startline][,endline]D < 1462150614 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End (save file) E < 1462150614 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Insert [line]I < 1462150615 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-List [startline][,endline]L < 1462150615 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Move [startline],[endline],tolineM < 1462150616 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Page [startline][,endline]P < 1462150616 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Quit (throw away changes) Q < 1462150619 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Replace [startline][,endline][?]R[oldtext][CTRL+Znewtext] < 1462150621 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]x < 1462150622 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Search [startline][,endline][?]Stext < 1462150625 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Transfer [toline]T[drive:][path]filename < 1462150626 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Write [#lines]W < 1462150627 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150628 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+x < 1462150629 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Entry error < 1462150629 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot: you're a bit loud tdnh < 1462150633 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]w < 1462150634 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+w < 1462150634 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150642 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]e < 1462150642 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+e < 1462150642 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150642 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150650 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]bcc hello.c < 1462150650 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bcc hello.c < 1462150652 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Borland C++ Version 3.1 Copyright (c) 1992 Borland International < 1462150652 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Error: Could not find file 'hello.c' < 1462150652 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150652 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Available memory 4133724 < 1462150655 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150655 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150667 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]bcc hi.c < 1462150667 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bcc hi.c < 1462150669 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Borland C++ Version 3.1 Copyright (c) 1992 Borland International < 1462150669 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hi.c: < 1462150669 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Turbo Link Version 5.1 Copyright (c) 1992 Borland International < 1462150669 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150669 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Available memory 4084568 < 1462150672 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150672 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150673 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]hi < 1462150673 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+hi < 1462150673 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello, world < 1462150673 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150673 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150694 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wdir < 1462150695 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462150704 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot could do with some sort of linebreak protection < 1462150704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wdir: not found < 1462150707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, "SDIR and WDIR"? < 1462150713 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]wdir < 1462150713 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+wdir < 1462150714 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-AMBRUS BC DATA DOS < 1462150714 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-JATEK NC NU PATH < 1462150714 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-TEMP TP WINDOWS autoexec.bak 1K < 1462150714 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-autoexec.bat 1K command.com 54K config.bak 1K config.sys 1K < 1462150714 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hi.c 1K hi.exe 7K hi.obj 1K io.sys 40K < 1462150714 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-msdos.sys 38K treeinfo.ncd 1K < 1462150715 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150715 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150724 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] edlin c:\path\serial\help.txt < 1462150724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ edlin c:\path\serial\help.txt < 1462150724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End of input file < 1462150725 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150725 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |spelling error < 1462150725 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: | edlin c:\path\serial\help.txt < 1462150725 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: | ^ < 1462150747 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462150756 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]6 < 1462150756 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+6 < 1462150756 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:*Use the SDIR or VDIR commands to list directories. < 1462150756 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:* < 1462150772 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]6rVDIR`oWDIR < 1462150772 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+6rVDIR^ZWDIR < 1462150773 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150776 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]6 < 1462150776 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+6 < 1462150776 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:*6rVDIR^ZWDIR < 1462150776 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:* < 1462150777 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]e < 1462150778 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+e < 1462150778 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1462150797 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch? < 1462150806 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I messed up that edit < 1462150812 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in append mode or something < 1462150823 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, single line edit mode < 1462150832 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 doesn't print a line, it edits that line < 1462150834 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]q < 1462150834 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+q < 1462150835 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort edit (Y/N)? < 1462150837 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]y < 1462150837 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+y < 1462150837 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150837 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150846 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]edlin c:\path\serial\help.txt < 1462150847 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin c:\path\serial\help.txt < 1462150847 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End of input file < 1462150847 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]6,6p < 1462150856 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+6,6p < 1462150856 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:*Use the SDIR or VDIR commands to list directories. < 1462150856 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150868 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]6rVDIR`oWDIR < 1462150868 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+6rVDIR^ZWDIR < 1462150868 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:*Use the SDIR or WDIR commands to list directories. < 1462150869 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462150880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :echoing the commands is a bit much < 1462150881 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's better < 1462150882 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]e < 1462150882 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+e < 1462150882 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150883 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150888 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]wdir < 1462150888 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+wdir < 1462150888 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-AMBRUS BC DATA DOS < 1462150888 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-JATEK NC NU PATH < 1462150888 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-TEMP TP WINDOWS autoexec.bak 1K < 1462150888 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-autoexec.bat 1K command.com 54K config.bak 1K config.sys 1K < 1462150889 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hi.c 1K hi.exe 7K hi.obj 1K io.sys 40K < 1462150889 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-msdos.sys 38K treeinfo.ncd 1K < 1462150890 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462150890 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462150892 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes < 1462150900 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's why this normally runs in a separate channel < 1462150908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: #esoteric-blah usually < 1462150918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you all try it < 1462150959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make that fix to help.txt permanent later < 1462151045 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh all I can think of is deltree and format < 1462151046 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on, write C or C++ (for the latter, the extension is CPP). this is nice ancient C with 16 bit integers, no offsetof, and the C++ is even worse < 1462151084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you can do those too, ]`.ry reverts the disk, although currently it also reverts this fix to help.txt < 1462151101 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but it might be better if you just wrote a c program < 1462151104 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tried to port one < 1462151116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a pascal program if you prefer < 1462151120 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462151130 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]debug < 1462151130 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+debug < 1462151131 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462151136 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 100 < 1462151140 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]a 100 < 1462151140 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a 100 < 1462151140 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0100 < 1462151147 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]int 29 < 1462151147 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+int 29 < 1462151147 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0102 < 1462151151 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]inc al < 1462151151 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+inc al < 1462151151 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0104 < 1462151154 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]jmp 100 < 1462151154 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+jmp 100 < 1462151154 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0106 < 1462151156 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1462151156 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462151161 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there is a proper assembler installed, not only debug < 1462151185 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, what was the command to actually execute the stuff < 1462151203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the command to execute the bot twh < 1462151215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]g < 1462151215 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+g < 1462151284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, not really unexpected. < 1462151378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, TASM should work to command-line assemble an assembly file, and also BCC and TPC both have inline assembly (although you might not know the calling conventions of what registers you have to save) < 1462151391 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`i < 1462151456 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]chicken < 1462151501 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's busy printing stuff to the screen buffer if my memory didn't fail me < 1462151536 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: too bad you can't really see the screen buffer < 1462151551 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vga cable isn't connected to anything < 1462151559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46905&oldid=46903 5* 03H3LL 5* (-1) 10/* Simple cycle */ < 1462151592 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where's the reboot special command... < 1462151595 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you connect the VGA cable to this chännel? < 1462151614 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hold still while I fetch the super glue... < 1462151650 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: `.d will turn the machine off, then the next input will turn it on < 1462151658 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462151662 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`.d < 1462151662 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151671 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]echo hello world < 1462151671 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: guest machine now booting < 1462151674 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\>echo hello world < 1462151675 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello world < 1462151675 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151675 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462151676 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's also a secret `.b command for reboot < 1462151696 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm not sure I want to hold still when super glue's involved hth < 1462151723 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]D: < 1462151724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+D: < 1462151724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Invalid drive specification < 1462151724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462151728 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so you are smart < 1462151733 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]A: < 1462151733 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+A: < 1462151733 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151739 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151739 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Not ready reading drive A < 1462151740 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort, Retry, Fail? < 1462151741 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not smart, just sane ^^ < 1462151745 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]R < 1462151745 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+R < 1462151747 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151747 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Not ready reading drive A < 1462151747 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort, Retry, Fail? < 1462151750 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]F < 1462151750 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+F < 1462151750 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Current drive is no longer valid> < 1462151756 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151756 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Not ready reading drive A < 1462151756 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort, Retry, Fail? < 1462151762 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]A < 1462151762 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+A < 1462151762 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151768 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151768 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Not ready reading drive A < 1462151768 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort, Retry, Fail? < 1462151771 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462151777 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. now what. < 1462151781 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]FC: < 1462151781 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+F < 1462151781 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Current drive is no longer valid>C: < 1462151781 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151781 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462151835 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462151850 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]debug < 1462151850 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+debug < 1462151850 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462151851 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]a < 1462151851 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a < 1462151851 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0100 < 1462151860 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]mov ax, 0940 < 1462151860 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+mov ax, 0940 < 1462151860 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0103 < 1462151864 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]int 21 < 1462151864 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+int 21 < 1462151865 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0105 < 1462151872 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]ret < 1462151872 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ret < 1462151872 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0106 < 1462151873 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1462151874 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462151875 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]g < 1462151875 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+g < 1462151875 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Í ÿŸ^@šîþ^]ðO^C^Z^FŠ^C^Z^F^W^C^Z^FA^E^C^C^C^@^Bÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿý^EN^AÚ^J < 1462151875 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^T^@^X^@¶^Kÿÿÿÿ^@^@^@^@^F^V^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Í!Ë^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^Mhello world^M\SERIAL.NCC^M=0 USEHIGH=ON USEHMA=ON^MHIGH=ON USEHMA=ON^M^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@¸@ Í!îGa^C^_‹ÃH^R±^D‹Æ÷^J < 1462151875 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^J < 1462151875 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ÐÓHÚ+Ð4^@¥^K^@ÛÒÓà^CðŽÚ‹Ç^V¶^A^VÀ^VøŽÂ¬ŠÐ^@^@N­‹ÈFŠÂ < 1462151876 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Program terminated normally < 1462151877 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462151891 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]q < 1462151891 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+q < 1462151891 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462151891 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462151928 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, forgot a lot < 1462151937 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gg. < 1462152104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]z: < 1462152104 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+z: < 1462152104 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Invalid drive specification < 1462152104 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152104 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462152107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]b: < 1462152107 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+b: < 1462152107 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152120 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1462152130 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1462152185 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1462152193 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]dir < 1462152201 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1462152232 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you can write actual assembly code with normal source files and assemble it with tasm, or inline assembly in bcc. Calling convention to C is all stack for normal functions (_cdecl) or first three parameters in registers (AX, DX, BX) for _fastcall functions. I think functions must preserve SI, DI, but can trash AX, CX, DX, BX, and arithmetic flags. I dunno about segment registers. < 1462152272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I wanted to do that I'd use nasm and dosbox :P < 1462152302 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or dosemu if I'd feel old-fashioned) < 1462152318 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, boily: I think it's stopped at the dual-floppy emulation prompt that asks you to insert the floppy that's supposed to be in drive B to your single floppy drive then press a key. < 1462152344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably that prompt doesn't work so you have to reboot. < 1462152352 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of things don't work in termbot. < 1462152354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`.b < 1462152355 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: guest machine now booting < 1462152355 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152359 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462152382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ver < 1462152384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ver: not found < 1462152385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462152388 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]ver < 1462152388 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ver < 1462152388 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152388 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-MS-DOS Version 6.22 < 1462152388 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152388 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152388 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462152414 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the help text told you that's the version installed < 1462152429 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the help text the "help" command prints) < 1462152429 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]mem < 1462152429 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+mem < 1462152429 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152429 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Memory Type Total = Used + Free < 1462152429 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------- ------- ------- ------- < 1462152429 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Conventional 640K 24K 616K < 1462152430 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Upper 135K 93K 41K < 1462152430 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Reserved 384K 384K 0K < 1462152431 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Extended (XMS) 64,377K 16,305K 48,072K < 1462152431 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------- ------- ------- ------- < 1462152432 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Total memory 65,536K 16,807K 48,729K < 1462152432 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152433 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Total under 1 MB 775K 117K 657K < 1462152433 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152435 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Largest executable program size 616K (630,624 bytes) < 1462152437 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Largest free upper memory block 22K (22,032 bytes) < 1462152439 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area. < 1462152440 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462152441 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462152512 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dos has a syscall that returns the amount of extended memory in kilobytes, so it can't handle more than 64 megabytes of extended or won't tell about it. < 1462152766 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462152904 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AX = number of contiguous KB starting at absolute address 100000h ... yeah a bit hard to express more than 64MB with that. < 1462152931 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could return the rest in the top half of EAX, which would be visible to a DOS extender < 1462152966 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]debug < 1462152966 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+debug < 1462152966 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462152968 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1462152970 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]a < 1462152970 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a < 1462152970 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0100 < 1462152976 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]mov ax,0240 < 1462152976 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+mov ax,0240 < 1462152976 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0103 < 1462152978 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]int 21 < 1462152978 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+int 21 < 1462152979 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0105 < 1462152981 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]ret < 1462152981 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ret < 1462152981 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0BB6:0106 < 1462152983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1462152983 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462152983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1462152984 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462152985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g]g < 1462152987 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]g < 1462152988 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+g < 1462152988 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-^@ < 1462152988 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Program terminated normally < 1462152988 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- < 1462153001 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, character in dl, but that syscall would work < 1462153031 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :]q < 1462153031 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+q < 1462153031 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462153031 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153062 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe for extra yolo I should've done this when no channel operators are present. < 1462153081 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone's seriously complained yet? just made snide comments < 1462153090 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I wasn't exactly paying attention < 1462153101 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing you didn't do it while I was connected via rlwrap :-P < 1462153103 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not yet, but nobody has started to wdir/s yet < 1462153116 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried mem /d before < 1462153124 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone does a very spammy command then either the bot or the person who triggered it to spam needs to be kicked < 1462153127 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not obvious which < 1462153136 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which probably isn't too bad anyway) < 1462153427 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot doesn't currently give you a way to skip spam. once the machine wrote it to the buffer, and it can write quite fast, it will probably appear in irc in a slow rate and you can't easily stop it. < 1462153466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462153470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was supposed to be a `.s command to flush the buffer, but I never implemented that < 1462153476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't think anyone's seriously complained yet? just made snide comments <-- well snide kickings are also tempting hth < 1462153569 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on people, write C programs < 1462153580 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :port useful stuff to dos < 1462153638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]help < 1462153638 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help < 1462153638 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Termbot connects you to an emulated machine you can fully control from irc. Be bold in experimenting, anything you do can be reverted. < 1462153638 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use a line with right square bracket prefix in the #sandbot channel to give commands, normally just text that is entered on the terminal. Using backtick in the line allows for some escapes and commands. < 1462153638 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special characters: `q = backtick, `o = eof (^Z), `r = enter, `t = tab, `b = backspace, `i = interrupt (^C), `e = escape, `x1f = any byte by hex code. < 1462153643 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special commands: `h = suppress automatic return at end of this line, `.d = turn power off, `.ry = off and revert disk to original. < 1462153647 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-The machine currently has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler and the TPC pascal compiler. < 1462153649 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use the SDIR or WDIR commands to list directories. < 1462153650 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]edlin hello.pas < 1462153662 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin hello.pas < 1462153662 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-New file < 1462153663 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462153670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]i < 1462153670 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+i < 1462153670 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 1:* < 1462153692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]begin print("Hello, world!"); end. < 1462153692 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+begin print("Hello, world!"); end. < 1462153693 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 2:* < 1462153706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's writeln or write, not print < 1462153709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1462153716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]q < 1462153716 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+q < 1462153716 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 3:* < 1462153721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`q < 1462153721 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+` < 1462153721 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 4:* < 1462153727 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: `o < 1462153731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`o < 1462153731 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^Z < 1462153731 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462153740 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're out of insert mode to ed mode < 1462153752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i only had the slightest idea < 1462153767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]q < 1462153767 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+q < 1462153767 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort edit (Y/N)? < 1462153771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]y < 1462153771 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+y < 1462153771 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153771 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was i insufficiently snide < 1462153798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i remember pascal even worse than i thought. and never learned edlin in the first place. < 1462153809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a wee bit < 1462153832 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you were close, the rest other than writeln was fine < 1462153836 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh wait, it iwasn't < 1462153842 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need single quotes for a string literal < 1462153845 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not double quotes < 1462153866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1462153872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruined by C and haskell < 1462153872 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so begin writeln('Hello, world!'); end. < 1462153874 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1462153880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]edlin hello.pas < 1462153880 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin hello.pas < 1462153881 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-New file < 1462153881 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462153887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]i < 1462153887 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+i < 1462153887 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 1:* < 1462153908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]begin writeln('Hello, world!'); end. < 1462153908 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+begin writeln('Hello, world!'); end. < 1462153908 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 2:* < 1462153918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`o < 1462153918 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^Z < 1462153918 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462153928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`o < 1462153928 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^Z < 1462153928 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Entry error < 1462153928 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462153934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]? < 1462153934 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+? < 1462153935 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Edit line line# < 1462153935 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Append [#lines]A < 1462153935 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Copy [startline],[endline],toline[,times]C < 1462153935 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Delete [startline][,endline]D < 1462153935 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End (save file) E < 1462153935 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Insert [line]I < 1462153936 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-List [startline][,endline]L < 1462153936 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Move [startline],[endline],tolineM < 1462153937 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Page [startline][,endline]P < 1462153937 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Quit (throw away changes) Q < 1462153939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: E to save the file and exit < 1462153939 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Replace [startline][,endline][?]R[oldtext][CTRL+Znewtext] < 1462153941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]E < 1462153942 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Search [startline][,endline][?]Stext < 1462153945 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Transfer [toline]T[drive:][path]filename < 1462153946 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Write [#lines]W < 1462153947 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462153948 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+E < 1462153949 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462153950 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]hpc hello.pas < 1462153956 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+hpc hello.pas < 1462153956 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Bad command or file name < 1462153956 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462153956 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153964 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tpc < 1462153967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]tpc hello.pas < 1462153967 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+tpc hello.pas < 1462153967 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Turbo Pascal Version 7.0 Copyright (c) 1983,92 Borland International < 1462153967 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-HELLO.PAS(1)^MHELLO.PAS(1)^MHELLO.PAS(1)^MHELLO.PAS(1) < 1462153967 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 lines, 2016 bytes code, 670 bytes data. < 1462153967 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462153968 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]hello.exe < 1462153982 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+hello.exe < 1462153982 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Hello, world! < 1462153982 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462153982 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462153985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1462154021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, though mind you, a hello.exe that prints that message could be already on the image rather than compiled by you now, so you'd better edit it to do something more unique < 1462154057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. < 1462154065 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462154069 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really your program < 1462154074 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no hello on the image as far as I know < 1462154081 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the hi.c I wrote earlier < 1462154082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD < 1462154084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]hi < 1462154084 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+hi < 1462154084 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello, world < 1462154084 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462154084 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462154126 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]edlin hello.pas`r1rworld`o#esoteric`r`o1p < 1462154126 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin hello.pas < 1462154126 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End of input file < 1462154126 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-*1rworld^Z#esoteric < 1462154126 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 1:*begin writeln('Hello, #esoteric!'); end. < 1462154126 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-*^Z1p < 1462154127 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Entry error < 1462154127 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462154139 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]`o`r1p < 1462154139 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^Z < 1462154139 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Entry error < 1462154139 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-*1p < 1462154139 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 1:*begin writeln('Hello, #esoteric!'); end. < 1462154139 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462154159 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]e`rtpc hello`rhello < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+e < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\>tpc hello < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Turbo Pascal Version 7.0 Copyright (c) 1983,92 Borland International < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-HELLO.PAS(1)^MHELLO.PAS(1)^MHELLO.PAS(1)^MHELLO.PAS(1) < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 lines, 2032 bytes code, 670 bytes data. < 1462154160 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462154161 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\>hello < 1462154161 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Hello, #esoteric! < 1462154162 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462154162 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\> < 1462154172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1462154417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ihoily < 1462154608 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to try this again later when there are fewer mods in < 1462154609 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462154663 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjanne. < 1462154969 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INSTANTIATED CHICKEN < 1462155567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/password < 1462155575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 107 Apr 24 17:05 wisdom/password < 1462155578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1462155581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is supercalifragilisticexpialidociouszU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ (There. Compromise.) < 1462155592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -l 1 wisdom/password < 1462155599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 7526:4f298d01c68c \ user: HackBot \ date: Sun Apr 24 17:05:01 2016 +0000 \ summary: learn The password of the month is supercalifragilisticexpialidociouszU0dIxy1RhtbmYoTJFigBQ (There. Compromise.) < 1462155613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is kOMMlIEBERmAIuNDmACHE < 1462155618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is kOMMlIEBERmAIuNDmACHE < 1462155800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there was a bit of fighting over april hth < 1462155823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/password < 1462155828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan gamemanj int-e oerjan int-e oerjan mroman oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ < 1462155946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is blah blah blah spoons blah blah blah swordfish blah blah blah < 1462155996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be careful with those, you almost got a swat before i realized HackEgo wasn't responding. < 1462156037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( wait is this actually discouragement ) < 1462156050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what you're saying is that i should have actually run the command < 1462156065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1462156196 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462156385 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462156622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1462156623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 10 May 1 20:24 canary < 1462156631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; echo hi < 1462156633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462156662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat canary; rm canary < 1462156665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*tsjørp* < 1462156673 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462156735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cake < 1462156740 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake. < 1462156831 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/media/exstream/exstream.html Here's a sea science thing < 1462157262 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1462157371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e Why does the apple fall from the tree? <-- the tree was bumped into by a speeding chicken hth < 1462157371 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462157650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462157857 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462158144 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462158393 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462158695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 437 < 1462158696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 437: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1462158874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462158877 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462160536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also I thought lambdabot had anti-botloop protection which caused it to temporarily part (quit?) if it thought it was in a botloop <-- i believe shachaf admitted to having faked that effect hth < 1462160556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1462160560 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you mention that I vaguely remember it < 1462160576 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm glad that even in 2016, it's still possible to botloop using well-established bots < 1462160581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462160593 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what the longest sustained botloop in any IRC channel was < 1462160608 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a vision of someone going into an abandoned channel which still has bots < 1462160610 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting a botloop < 1462160624 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the botloop lasting until the next netsplit or deconnect/reconnect of a bot, and possibly longer < 1462160625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm not convinced there's any way to get a raw PRIVMSG out of HackEgo without breaking the sandbox < 1462160630 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1462160650 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was just a case of convincing neither hackego nor lambdabot to escape < 1462160775 0 :MDream!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some time I'd like to make a bot that's actually an internal network of bots talking to each other. < 1462161482 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've seen 5 hours of botloop in a moderately sized channel < 1462161499 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly because no one had an op at that time < 1462161501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: were people active? and were they trying and failing to stop it? < 1462161513 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: make an esolang out of it! < 1462161524 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: trying only worsened the problem, obviously < 1462161537 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially when the bots have flood protection by themselves) < 1462161538 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could potentially get one of the bots thrown out for flooding < 1462161553 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, anticipated my idea already :-D < 1462161590 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and resolved when the op came back and saw such a tyranny < 1462161905 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462162970 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462162995 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462163044 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ggfbsnuylcivdmda QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462163211 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ubcwkqucfmxqmudq JOIN :#esoteric < 1462163529 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1462164112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A cipation is an evil scheme that only works if no one is prepared for it. < 1462164129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cipation': A cipation is an evil scheme that only works if no one is prepared for it. < 1462164421 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: reverse-etomologized from "anticipation", I take it? < 1462164463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admit nothing. < 1462164487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*etymologized < 1462164501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or *entomologized if you're being weird. < 1462164599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? butterfly < 1462164604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :butterfly? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462164659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn butterfly/While some might think butterflies are descended from flies, that is a false entomology. < 1462164665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «butterfly» < 1462164689 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462164917 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, that's one of your better puns < 1462164943 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get two meanings working all the way through the entire sentence < 1462164986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1462165217 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-214.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462165246 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462165373 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-214.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1462168373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning: This movie review contains spoilers, as well as a continued fraction expansion." < 1462168396 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2707 < 1462169721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i want to read the review but maybe i should see the movie < 1462170093 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462171030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spell Poisoning {?} Instant ;; Target sorcery spell gains infect. < 1462171066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did it mean for a spell to have infect? < 1462171076 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works it have to deal damage? < 1462171106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think infect does anyting unless you deal damage < 1462171124 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd make the spell deal damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and players in the form of poison counters < 1462171139 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a spell with wither, IIRC, and an activated ability that gives spells lifelink < 1462171163 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1462171170 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:fda3:5566:f1d5:c921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462171336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46906&oldid=45798 5* 03Phase 5* (+57) 10Add link to Java interpreter < 1462171584 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:fda3:5566:f1d5:c921 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462171949 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462172047 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This puzzle is simple see if you know this one http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.8 < 1462172337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Pffft. Why would there be spoilers? Didn't we all spend 4 years in Venezuela memorizing the complete biographies of all the great mathematicians? < 1462172345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't just me, right? < 1462172506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: From that same blag: “Why is this theorem true?” “It’s true only because we’re working over the complex numbers. The analogous statement about real numbers is false.” < 1462172513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now unsettled < 1462172519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I know that it makes sense < 1462172547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't quite sit right with my primal mathematician that evolution endowed me with for very strange reasons. < 1462172611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what's your opinion of "each quadratic has two roots"? < 1462172623 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given that sometimes they're complex, and sometimes they're equal to each other) < 1462172634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, I know. But it still makes the primal mathematican hiss. < 1462172653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the primal mathematician is part snake because reasons) < 1462172678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We didn't evolve for complex numbers < 1462172679 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of what kind of reasons? < 1462172686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows there's a joke there, but can't find it < 1462172696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Quantum ones. < 1462172704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: /meta/quantum. < 1462172706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not we evolve for complex numbers seems irrelevant. < 1462172726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of (meta) quantum ones? < 1462172738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's in a box, so I can't tell. < 1462172766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a universe be like where math is actually applicable to reality? Where we can use Banach-Tarski to duplicate objects and where theorems are magic? < 1462172800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see a story about a medieval kingdom in a world where math is particularly useful < 1462172831 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics is the real reality; reality isn't. < 1462172856 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462172911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, true < 1462172928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds new prime numbers to fuel his empire < 1462173033 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462173098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well, I know about Ramanujan, but I assume the movie is mostly fiction, like most movies about famous mathematicians. < 1462173218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SPOILER: at the end, he falls into an infinitely-deep void before appearing about 8 cm /above/ the surface of the earth < 1462173291 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462173579 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the puzzle I posted? I think it is not so difficult; also it has no unnecessary cards as far as I know. (Having unnecessary units is called "dressing the board".) < 1462173995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which puzzle? < 1462174004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I see it. < 1462174027 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know those cards. < 1462174049 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look them up on Gatherer or whatever, and if you want to, write their text on the printout < 1462174096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46907&oldid=46905 5* 03H3LL 5* (+104) 10 < 1462174097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if I could hover my mouse cursor over the names to see the cards. < 1462174266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46908&oldid=46907 5* 03H3LL 5* (+1) 10/* Example programs */ < 1462174361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's because your primal mathematician doesn't understand ordering of quantifiers hth < 1462174402 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still use the right click search function in Firefox, or write a program to do somehing else, or whatever. (I myself generally prefer to work such puzzles on paper.) < 1462174496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Mathematics is the real reality; reality isn't. <-- have i mentioned before that i'm not convinced that the true reality even has logic and mathematics? < 1462174517 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know. < 1462174659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] but I assume the movie is mostly fiction, like most movies about famous mathematicians. <-- aaronson thinks it's less so than some other examples, but not scot free. < 1462174679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: obviously he wouldn't think that < 1462174700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46909&oldid=46904 5* 03H3LL 5* (+227) 10/* Confusion IDE */ new section < 1462174713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why do people have to choose disturbing nicknames like H3LL ) < 1462174761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46910&oldid=46909 5* 03H3LL 5* (+30) 10/* Confusion IDE */ < 1462174789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's disturbing about it < 1462174822 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it mixes letters with numbers, like I do. < 1462174833 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well if oerjan started calling himself 03rj4n, wouldn't you be disturbed? < 1462174840 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ideally use a font where the zero is slashed) < 1462174845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats you all -----### < 1462174862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be surprised, because IRC doesn't allow you to set a nick starting with a digit. < 1462174872 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n03rj4n then < 1462174883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who's to say that that 3 represents an E? < 1462174891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the zero is slashed i'd leave out the 3, duh < 1462174904 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good point < 1462174941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: an esolang where the font used to read the program changes its meaning (and isn't part of the storage on disk, rather the program is stored in an AST-based fashion and editors render it into text differently depending on what font they use) < 1462174954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick h1tl3r < 1462175037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a common accusation levelled at mods? < 1462175058 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but yes, despite the trolling I agree with you that the original nick under discussion is a little distasteful) < 1462175070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1462175123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there have been much more distasteful nicks in here. < 1462175134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without comment. < 1462175156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose it's possible that I'm thinking of other channels. < 1462175177 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular nicks? < 1462175192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean nicks of regulars? < 1462175195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1462175203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not? Maybe. < 1462175219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were certainly some in #haskell and other places. I don't know about here now. < 1462175336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reddit is of course chock full of them. < 1462175401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in otherwise polite discussions. < 1462175558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that is even parodied sometimes < 1462175573 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people having a civil discussion with incredibly distateful names, and someone else pointing it out < 1462175618 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the sun's up, the buses should be running by now even on a bank holiday, and I need sleep < 1462175620 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so time to go home < 1462175623 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye everyone < 1462175630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1462175647 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1462175658 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm holiday? < 1462175714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm first monday in may < 1462175732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have first of may a holiday, but this year that fell on a sunday. < 1462175775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distateful names like Victoria and Albert and Imperial War Museum? < 1462175787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are two names, not three. < 1462175805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why the Oxford comma should be required even for lists of length 2. < 1462175811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1462175845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes shachaf is joking about the misspelling but has no idea why those names are di-state-ful < 1462175864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tate hth < 1462175873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462175882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping that maybe ais523 would know it but he left already. < 1462176037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have got it after a while. < 1462176055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't've been worth it. < 1462176066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't remember that V&A was a museum. < 1462176115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just picked a few from the bottom of that Wikipedia page. < 1462176174 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462176339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at today's freefall and foreshadowed in the previous one: i wonder how bad it will get when they do run out < 1462176590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another less spoilerish review http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=8427 < 1462176637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :" It was extremely good, infinitely better than the most recent high profile film about a mathematician, the one about Turing" < 1462176776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinitely? That's pretty better. < 1462176801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1462176809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to watch it? < 1462176815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful < 1462176825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it take to convince you? < 1462176879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1462177613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you read the olist pdf yet < 1462177794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas < 1462178716 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with cumberbatch? < 1462178735 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't that bad < 1462179001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462181464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462183036 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland also has a first-of-May holiday, and lost it this year because of Sunday. < 1462183061 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the UK "if a holiday falls on a weekend, it'll be compensated for" scheme. < 1462183089 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although the Early May Bank Holiday isn't an example of that, since it's always a Monday.) < 1462183124 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But e.g. Dec 27, 2016 is the "Christmas Day (substitute day)" holiday. < 1462183139 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because Dec 25, 2016 is a Sunday.) < 1462183495 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 26? < 1462183538 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Boxing Day, already a holiday. < 1462183555 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is why the Christmas Day compensation day goes all the way to a Tuesday.) < 1462186052 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462188466 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do they do that even for Easter day, which is always a sunday? < 1462188591 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462188639 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462188642 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462188642 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1462188642 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1462188731 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1462189017 0 :ski__!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1462189040 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462189041 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462189055 0 :jefrite!jefrite@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:c675 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462189413 0 :jefrite!~jefrite@li394-234.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462189415 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462189470 0 :ski__!?@? NICK :ski < 1462189514 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462189539 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462189653 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462189692 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1462189988 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462190004 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462190080 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462190900 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1462190901 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 021100Z 08008KT 15SM OVC014 07/05 A3000 RMK SC8 SLP163 < 1462191017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Doorspace14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46911&oldid=43601 5* 0351.254.73.48 5* (-3) 10/* Statement Reference */ i won't stand for people calling # a hashtag < 1462191165 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1462191182 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a nice eso-journal => http://www.universalrejection.org/ < 1462191287 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. that is a nice journal! < 1462191540 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462191588 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PLANK CHICKEN < 1462193044 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462193345 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462193457 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462193535 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462196496 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462196551 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462196679 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462197252 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462198071 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462198863 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462198932 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462200097 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462201058 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462201172 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462201732 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462201848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There's an "Easter Monday" holiday, I don't think it technically counts as a substitute day for the Sunday. < 1462201864 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And also the Good Friday, so there's always a 4-day weekend around Easter, or so I believe.) < 1462201942 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462201996 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AIUI, there's a total of 8 yearly bank holidays -- New Year's Day*, Good Friday, Easter Monday, Early May bank holiday, Spring bank holiday, Summer bank holiday, Christmas Day*, Boxing Day* -- of which three -- the ones marked with * -- can fall on a weekend and result in substitute days.) < 1462202219 0 :Koen_!5c8c3dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.140.61.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462202236 0 :Koen_!5c8c3dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.140.61.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello solid matrices < 1462202268 0 :Koen_!5c8c3dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.140.61.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know that did not work < 1462202285 0 :Koen_!5c8c3dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.140.61.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't know is how to make it work < 1462202611 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weighted companion cube < 1462202639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weighted companion cube? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462202648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? companion cube < 1462202651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cube < 1462202656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :companion cube? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462202660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1462202661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see < 1462202893 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462203384 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn companion cube/There's cake inside it. < 1462203392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «companion cube» < 1462203408 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn companion cube/There's cake inside it. Tear it apart, rip open your companion, and extract the delicious, delicious cake... < 1462203413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «companion cube» < 1462203620 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462204729 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462205602 0 :atriq!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b JOIN :#esoteric < 1462205618 0 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462205686 0 :spiette_!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462205838 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462205913 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206096 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206096 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206096 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206096 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462206097 0 :shikhin!shikhin@2604:180:1:10e::3e89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206097 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Excess Flood < 1462206097 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462206097 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206097 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206097 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206097 0 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206097 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462206097 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462206097 0 :shikhin!shikhin@2604:180:1:10e::3e89 QUIT :Changing host < 1462206097 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206097 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206120 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206123 0 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206123 0 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me QUIT :Changing host < 1462206123 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206145 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206149 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206232 0 :spiette_!?@? NICK :spiette < 1462206398 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206720 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206751 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462206765 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462206906 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462206986 0 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462207146 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462207778 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462207857 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462208276 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462208798 0 :Koen_!5c8c3dde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.140.61.222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462210188 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462210374 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bsod < 1462210387 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsod? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210389 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A strapon that looks like E.T.'s finger - its tip lights up when it touches another strapon. < 1462210392 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for science! < 1462210410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alpha < 1462210412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alpha? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210490 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn alpha is the numeric measurement of opaqueness, a dog with unusually high voice in the Disney-Pixar Up film, and a NATO phonetic alphabet letteral. < 1462210496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'alpha': alpha is the numeric measurement of opaqueness, a dog with unusually high voice in the Disney-Pixar Up film, and a NATO phonetic alphabet letteral. < 1462210522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has an unusually hi voice < 1462210579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamma < 1462210581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamma? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210581 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? delta < 1462210583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :delta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210593 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beta < 1462210595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210692 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rlhkvsjtnpqypqfm QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462210732 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define retrun return < 1462210756 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? define < 1462210758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #define < 1462210760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#define? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210760 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fluffer < 1462210761 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #ifdef < 1462210763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluffer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210763 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ifdef < 1462210768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for < 1462210770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#ifdef? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210773 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifdef? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462210773 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462211050 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mvbeuxmnogcdzntm JOIN :#esoteric < 1462211357 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462211581 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1462212574 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1462213296 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462213377 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462213707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462213722 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd is a little bit... deep. < 1462213795 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's and ocean out there < 1462213800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody designed a browser by the principal of a microkernel, rather than as a monolithic kernel (look at me, applying terms from different fields to their equivalents here) < 1462213808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-? < 1462213827 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :principle? < 1462213840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, principle < 1462213851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hexchat doesn't have grammer check < 1462213852 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... the closes we've come so far is sandboxing, I think. < 1462213855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :closest. < 1462213864 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you're hurting me < 1462213870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: >:) < 1462213872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Do you understand what I'm getting at? < 1462213919 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462213935 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partly. From a security perspective, a better separation of concerns (with isolated processes... or threads if you will...) would be nice. < 1462213947 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462213949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Not sure you do, but I don't understand what you're saying < 1462213989 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It would be a browser where the browser itself is almost /nothing/; instead of being everything in one big software bundle, plus cutesy extensions, the browser would be an API that comes with a million extensions on top of it < 1462214002 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well at least I've found some meaning in your random combination of terms this time. < 1462214009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: So there are extensions dedicated to rendering pages, rather than the browser backend doing it < 1462214010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually I fail to do that. < 1462214012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yep :) < 1462214033 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't see much value in a pure plugin framework. < 1462214044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't either, but I feel like there would be < 1462214058 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but browser security, now that's someting worth (but hard) tackling. < 1462214058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It would motivate the browser to be more extensible and more powerful? < 1462214075 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1462214102 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To take the kernel analogy, Linux is a monolithic kernel, but lack of extensibility is not one of its shortcomings. < 1462214108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: With a browser with this degree of extensibility, I figure you could adapt it rapidly to new languages and such < 1462214117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: True, true < 1462214118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :modular design and isolation at runtime are independent features. < 1462214139 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, well, not independent < 1462214146 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can do the former without the latter < 1462214160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: But then again, the browser is monolithic in a different fashion; Linux can be monolithic but extensible because you never want to mess with the low-level stuff < 1462214186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: In a monolithic browser, the basic stuff is much higher-level; e.g. rendering webpages and executing javascript < 1462214230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can have several things interfacing with a single DOM. < 1462214237 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462214269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. For some reason, my gcc cross-compiler is recognizing my initialization of an array and me setting its elements as conflicting type definitions < 1462214272 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462214284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get a modular, design, optionally using isolated components... though the shared DOM will be quite a big chunk. < 1462214291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I slept on it, and I think I see to some degree /why/ < 1462214294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know how to fix it < 1462214295 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah nice, that sounds like fungot said it < 1462214296 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'll give it a try. thanks! _ http://www.befunge.org/ fyb/ is broken < 1462214304 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, To get a modular, design, optionally using isolated components... though the shared DOM will be quite a big chunk. < 1462214304 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: lindi or someone could write one. let us know the specifics of how compilers do things functionally, without actually reallocating things, when i don't have any < 1462214311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because of the extra comma? < 1462214330 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, because of the high amount of buzzwords < 1462214339 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462214347 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1462214359 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fungot in the scheme setting often gives his idealistic opinions about software design < 1462214359 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh wait the bottom left ' thing', by neal stephenson.), the ability to pause for indefinite amounts of time. < 1462214368 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: watch out, you'll soon be obsolete < 1462214368 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there is no < 1462214432 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got obsoleted before finishig the sentence < 1462214517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1462214520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a declared array in C < 1462214542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I then set an element of that array without it thinking that the assignment is a separate definition? < 1462214557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm doing this as a constant, so that might be the problem...) < 1462214575 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int arr[3] = { 0, 1, 2 }; < 1462214729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: OK, but how do I assign each element separately? I need to do that for legibility < 1462214748 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: same, but add newlines? < 1462214758 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int arr[3]; arr[1] = 1; arr[0] = 0; arr[2] = 2; < 1462214764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I have char scancode[0xFF][8], and I want to set each scancode[n] to a (short) string < 1462214776 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :int arr[3] = { 0: 1, 1: 1, 2: 2 }; <-- don't we have this syntax now? < 1462214777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That's what I'm doing, I think. < 1462214787 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I suspect this is on the toplevel < 1462214792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It is < 1462214799 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's the gcc extension. there's a C99 (or maybe C11) syntax, but it doesn't work in C++ < 1462214802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm not particularly good with C < 1462214813 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so short of writing an initializer function it simply doesn't work. < 1462214816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though honestly, C OS Dev < 1462214826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is easier than the C I've done before, somehow) < 1462214834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I can do that < 1462214866 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the C99 syntax is int arr[3] = {[0] = 1, [1] = 1, [2] = 2}; < 1462214875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But C++ could allow a similar syntax, I would guess? < 1462214893 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no. < 1462214909 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah I remembered. < 1462214970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Something like {{0,1},{1,1},{2,2}} < 1462215007 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe if you define a function that initializes an array from an array-of-pairs like that < 1462215012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now it's complaining about "assignment to expression with array type" < 1462215017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1462215022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: note that C++ can have initializers that aren't compile time constant, for ages < 1462215023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's not an array but whatever that thing was called. < 1462215050 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462215130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: OK, why is it complaining about "assignment to expression with array type" < 1462215134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made an initializer function < 1462215137 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462215214 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe you should actually show the code you're trying, like on a paste site? < 1462215221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I got it working < 1462215225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I should < 1462215227 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not good at crystal ball debugging < 1462215233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Fair enoguh < 1462215260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to change the declaration of scancode from char scancode[0xFF][8] to const char *scancode[0xFF] < 1462215266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't want to change the strings anyway) < 1462215280 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I am anticipating a rather gnarly bug) < 1462215742 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462216352 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kuedmechlondnmza JOIN :#esoteric < 1462216918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462217097 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://about.gitlab.com/2016/04/28/gitlab-major-security-update-for-cve-2016-4340/ < 1462217277 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kuedmechlondnmza QUIT :Excess Flood < 1462217284 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ztlnzrskozojvozn JOIN :#esoteric < 1462217302 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ztlnzrskozojvozn QUIT :Changing host < 1462217302 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462217302 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1462217302 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ztlnzrskozojvozn JOIN :#esoteric < 1462217365 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: love the "install gitlab on your server in 2 minutes" banner on the same page... < 1462217383 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462217591 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a button that types std:: in one keystroke < 1462217697 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not use GitLab, but maybe it is useful to someone who does < 1462217720 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Can you configure your computer to allow it, or connect an external device that will do it? < 1462217822 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: get a gaming keyboard < 1462217839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462217970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462217981 0 :quintopi1!?@? NICK :quintopia < 1462217990 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1462217990 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1462218106 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: maybe you should learn to use using declarations. < 1462218241 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "using std" was frowned upon < 1462218265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, it's using namespace std; that is frowned upon, < 1462218286 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that imports all symbols from std to your namespace, even the symbols you don't even know about and might exist only in the future or non-portably. < 1462218340 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you import specific symbols to your namespace like using std::min; using std::max; using std::abort; using std::cerr; using std::abs; using std::sqrt; using std::array; that is usually fine < 1462218350 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you know which symbols you import < 1462218400 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. (okay, I'm not a C++ programmer, but one reason that I didn't get "using namespace std" right is that I never do it... I just don't find those std:: too onerous overall) < 1462218438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you don't have to import every symbol from std, it's just useful for certain symbols if you use them a lot in contexts where the std would be distracting < 1462218568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462219397 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also fine to use a using-directive in a limited scope < 1462219409 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should never put a using-directive or using-declaration in global scope in a header, though < 1462219413 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though modules will fix that, yay!) < 1462219500 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is your general opinion about using declarations? < 1462219500 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well there is no modification here. :p < 1462219516 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: and about using directives and namespace aliases too < 1462219516 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you're welcome. have fun. :) as far as slow compilers goes, i don't < 1462219541 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462220105 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462220315 0 :nchambers!?@? NICK :sillytime < 1462220429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462220447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I get the ord() of a char in C? < 1462220451 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find any information < 1462220469 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :char is an integral type in C < 1462220500 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use the char value by itself, it is the value you need < 1462220516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I need to get an element of an array at the index < 1462220517 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If formatted as %d it will display the number, if formatted as %c it will display the character. < 1462220527 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Element of what array at what index? < 1462220538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have an array < 1462220553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I want to convert the char to a number and get the element at that index. < 1462220559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I tried arr[c], but that didn't work < 1462220582 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int)c ? < 1462220586 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What character is it and what array, can you give information? < 1462220597 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might need c&127 or c&255 depending on what you are doing, too < 1462220599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: Tried that < 1462220602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1462220612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The array is called pressed and it is an array of bools < 1462220644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The character is part of a const char* returned from a function that gets user input < 1462220684 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to get the character from the string properly too, ensure it is done. < 1462220768 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, (int) worked < 1462220770 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462220772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int)c < 1462220785 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said it didn't work, what happened? < 1462221013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1462221274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462221486 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462221564 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462221640 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1462222159 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462222377 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big is the array? 'char' might be signed < 1462222431 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-202-192.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462222662 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is why I suggested c&255 < 1462223154 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ztlnzrskozojvozn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1462223163 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-eivefmieptxfpzpm JOIN :#esoteric < 1462223666 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462223782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462224182 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462224389 0 :sillytime!?@? NICK :nchambers < 1462224545 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1462224545 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1462224545 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1462224545 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1462224580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462224912 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462225336 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A program for editing picture files could be made to have all filters external and use farbfeld for stdin/stdout; some filters may be input-only or output-only, such as loading and saving the picture to a file. < 1462225538 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be fairly flexible. < 1462225780 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462225848 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1462226504 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: adu < 1462226609 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462226887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Random14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46912&oldid=20078 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */ < 1462227016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462227672 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462228862 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462228882 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462228910 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462229133 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1462229475 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462229644 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462230917 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462230921 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1462230933 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462231050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462231304 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462231324 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: coprello. did you receive a censusletter? < 1462231344 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjouroiloui < 1462231354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jhoily < 1462231378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1462231390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wowat < 1462231394 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can combine a greeting, an answer to a question, and a pseudo-nickping all into one word nowadays? < 1462231415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahiofcours523 < 1462231426 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the porthello game is strong in this chännel. < 1462231497 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never really been a fan of them, but I admit they tend to be popular < 1462231510 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1462231515 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing a heap in brainfuck < 1462231586 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: adu < 1462231608 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you need to say anything else, it's going to be hard to get /much/ more eso than that sentence < 1462231615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you looking for help, or just wanted to let us know what you were working on? < 1462231617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ^v `^_^v and all those other people? < 1462231629 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how would you porthello ^v^v? < 1462231640 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. < 1462231647 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hilohilo < 1462231652 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, ? < 1462231658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Clever. < 1462231672 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION approves < 1462231676 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, i am PixelToast < 1462231684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a yes or a no? < 1462231690 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v^v is my only nick on this network < 1462231731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PixelToast < 1462231732 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence? < 1462231743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462231746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PixelToast? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462231749 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who is ^v then? < 1462231757 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v is my IRC bot < 1462231759 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1462231760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just one pixel hth < 1462231775 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming someone diddnt take it < 1462231787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's been a ^v in this channel before < 1462231796 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably be me < 1462231797 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming that was your bot otherwise there's some sort of enormous coincidence involevd < 1462231806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so that is you? < 1462231824 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time was this ^v here? < 1462231828 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont talk much here < 1462231870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v was here for years, although i don't remember when i saw em last < 1462231885 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462231901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were also `^_^v < 1462231906 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, at least. < 1462231908 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v is not me < 1462231915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v: not found < 1462231917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1462231923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think those were the same person < 1462231937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were. < 1462231939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1462231947 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have probably been talking about Lua, brainfuck or me making an esolang with just ^ and v < 1462231984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although ^v must been around when we experimented with noping implementations in HackEgo, because i distinctly remember thinking i refused to bother making it work for 2-char nicks < 1462231991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*must have been < 1462232025 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i registered it Registered : Jul 26 04:15:44 2013 (2y 40w 1d ago) < 1462232029 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 years ago < 1462232062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v^v: ^v has "website = http://ptoast.tk/", is that your website? < 1462232070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, `^_^v is nycs. < 1462232077 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that was my old website url < 1462232081 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i now have pxtst.com < 1462232084 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1462232098 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats still my bot's account < 1462232100 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess ^v is you but stuck in the past < 1462232109 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like ais523_ is me but on someone else's computer < 1462232129 0 :^v^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1462232171 0 :^v^v!?@? NICK :^v < 1462232180 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^0 is my bot's nick < 1462232183 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot < 1462232237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell koen_ oerjan: I know that did not work <-- i've long since forgotten what the subject was hth < 1462232237 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462232345 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462232348 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION found it in a 4 day old log < 1462232355 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not connecting from my tablet ever again < 1462232359 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1462232359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462232361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, 5 < 1462232424 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon__. < 1462232499 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INJECTION CHICKEN < 1462232535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alpha < 1462232541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alpha is the numeric measurement of opaqueness, a dog with unusually high voice in the Disney-Pixar Up film, and a NATO phonetic alphabet letteral. < 1462232560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i sbabAb wisdom/alpha < 1462232569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462232675 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462232715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462233033 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol < 1462233035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1462233043 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rI need to fix that; < 1462233045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to fix that < 1462233071 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rhp hi; < 1462233072 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp hi < 1462233766 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol < 1462233768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1462233771 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1462233938 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462233947 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont abuse my intepreter for CIOL < 1462233964 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting... Checking Shellmodule.bin Checking systemlibrary.slib Checking Kernal.bin All good RESONANCE SHELL TERMINAL V4 Please enter a commmand > < 1462233967 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1462233977 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/CIOL < 1462234169 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like brainfuck and C had a love child < 1462234178 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rHello; < 1462234182 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1462234187 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1462234215 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the point < 1462234220 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, < 1462234227 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the quine examples? < 1462234296 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462234330 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie did a good job < 1462234341 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1462234361 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what do you think of the register system? < 1462234417 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :decent. reminds me of befunge kind of < 1462234451 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, being lazy is not good for trying to make a 99bb program in CIOL < 1462234514 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might just grab the lyrics and put them in a r ; block :P < 1462234555 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie group < 1462234557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie group? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462234557 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie algebra < 1462234559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size. < 1462234628 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazyness has been made: http://pastebin.com/5g4pL4U1 < 1462234784 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? triangle < 1462234786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462234789 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plane < 1462234791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plane? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462234831 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? impossible < 1462234833 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unlikely < 1462234838 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462234845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462234853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlikely? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462234854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1462235013 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1462235038 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish < 1462235046 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bicycle < 1462235049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235086 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish bicycle < 1462235089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish bicycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235093 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? motorcycle < 1462235094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :motorcycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235095 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monocycle < 1462235097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unicycle < 1462235101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monocycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235105 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? uncyclopedia < 1462235107 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cyclops < 1462235109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncyclopedia is always factually accurate, except for uh, that one entry? it started with like, an AA? you can probably find it in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/The_Unicyclopedia < 1462235111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclops? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235168 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? money < 1462235170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :money? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235187 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vote < 1462235188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235189 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ballot < 1462235192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ballot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235192 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1462235197 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help ? < 1462235197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462235230 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does `? do? < 1462235299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does lookups in our wisdom database < 1462235675 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1462235677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1462235836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462235841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.doorstop/You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1462235866 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rhymes < 1462235867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhymes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462235872 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rhymes < 1462235874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1136) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." < 1462236355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462236602 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462236913 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462237024 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462237378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another irregular webcomic election landslide http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cgi-bin/poll.pl?a=1 < 1462237384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462237394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cgi-bin/poll.pl < 1462237412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1462237413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1462237443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :use http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/polls/ unless you want to vote for tea in the next poll hth < 1462237454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION felt like a cup of tea for once < 1462237493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i only had some in reality. i guess it's cola instead -> < 1462237621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most here can agree that the best candidate won. < 1462237641 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazyness ultima: http://pastebin.com/5g4pL4U1 < 1462237673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: i don't feel like that counts. < 1462237703 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462237709 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur / dur < 1462237712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeating all the text < 1462237717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1462237724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't notice he was making a pun < 1462237729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462237735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1462237756 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs at oerjan < 1462237758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your infamous mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1462237778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :laugh at your DOOM < 1462237790 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk < 1462237791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1462237804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append oerjan He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462237811 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'oerjan': Your infamous mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462237818 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx moonstat//echo stop stalking me! < 1462237822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonstat < 1462237825 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv moonstat bin/moonstat < 1462237826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `moonstat bin/moonstat' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462237838 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``mv moonstat bin/moonstat < 1462237840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `mv: not found < 1462237844 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv moonstat bin/moonstat < 1462237846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1462237850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462237864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can create the file in its proper place < 1462237867 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`moonstat < 1462237868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop stalking me! < 1462237905 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to learn how to shellscript < 1462237941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. i think ! sometimes needs escaping, although apparently not in that context. < 1462237968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which bin/moonstat < 1462237969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/moonstat < 1462237974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/moonstat < 1462237975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo stop stalking me! < 1462237988 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462238001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo stop stalking me!! < 1462238005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop stalking me!! < 1462238010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not here either < 1462238054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably !! only works interactively. < 1462238073 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`expr 1 + 2 < 1462238075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 2 < 1462238083 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1462238090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which expr < 1462238091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/expr < 1462238111 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :expr is a native command for preforming math < 1462238124 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` expr 1 + 2 < 1462238124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` expr 1 + 2 < 1462238132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1462238132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1462238140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462238184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? overlord < 1462238186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlord? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462238256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn overlord/Evil overlords do evil acts like taking over the world, kicking puppies and changing their own wisdom entries. < 1462238261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «overlord» < 1462238267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn overlord/Evil overlords do evil acts like taking over the world, kicking puppies, and changing their own wisdom entries. < 1462238271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «overlord» < 1462238272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's oxford it < 1462238340 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>---## *swats oerjan* < 1462238343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i jaywalk a lot. < 1462238377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which technically is not a crime where i live, but still. < 1462238504 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462238565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : expr is a native command for preforming math <-- i know, i was just checking if someone had redefined it. < 1462238593 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/swat//echo >---▦▦, bad $1 < 1462238597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/swat < 1462238604 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat moon < 1462238606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/swat: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/swat: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1462238613 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/swat//echo >---▦▦, bad $1 < 1462238616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/swat < 1462238617 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat moon < 1462238620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/swat < 1462238632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ moon__ elliott shachaf elliott shachaf elliott shachaf < 1462238642 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, oops! < 1462238643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, but i have to revert that. < 1462238660 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462238663 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>---▦▦, bad me < 1462238709 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo >---▦▦, bad moon < 1462238710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1462238714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 7653 < 1462238715 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo >---▦▦, bad moon < 1462238725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238727 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462238731 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can he not do unicode? < 1462238733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ▦▦ < 1462238737 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo >---##, bad moon < 1462238737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1462238739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+25A6 SQUARE WITH ORTHOGONAL CROSSHATCH FILL] [U+25A6 SQUARE WITH ORTHOGONAL CROSSHATCH FILL] < 1462238745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238753 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo >---##, bad moon < 1462238754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>---##, bad moon < 1462238760 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo >---▦▦, bad moon < 1462238761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>---▦▦, bad moon < 1462238762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unicode is fine, but our irc clients don't have it < 1462238767 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462238770 0 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462238774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1462238776 0 :zzo38_!?@? NICK :zzo38 < 1462238778 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat < 1462238782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238786 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat moon < 1462238788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/swat < 1462238790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo >---▦▦, bad $1 < 1462238793 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat swat < 1462238794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: swat: No such file or directory < 1462238803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/swat | grap summary: | tac < 1462238805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1462238810 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1462238810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: grap: command not found < 1462238817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/swat | grep summary: | tac < 1462238824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462238840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1462238851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: it actually had been deleted < 1462238858 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462238868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQUARE WITH ORTHOGONAL CROSSHATCH FILL renders for me < 1462238890 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/swat//echo >---▦▦ echo bad echo $1 < 1462238893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/swat < 1462238895 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat < 1462238897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238900 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat moon < 1462238902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462238903 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i make it output? < 1462238906 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462238926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, i must still disagree on the principle that there is only one true swatter, and it doesn't look that way. < 1462238945 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>---▦▦ < 1462238956 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this for me looks like a fly swatter < 1462238960 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :## better than that < 1462238962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the > is a special character < 1462238978 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/swat//echo ---▦▦ echo bad echo $1 < 1462238983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/swat < 1462238984 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat moon < 1462238985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ echo bad echo moon < 1462238995 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/swat//echo ---▦▦ bad $1 < 1462238997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/swat < 1462239000 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat moon < 1462239001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad moon < 1462239018 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/altswat//echo ---## bad $1 < 1462239021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/altswat < 1462239022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, these are the end times anyway. < 1462239029 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1462239034 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat oerjan < 1462239035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad oerjan < 1462239036 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell meh < 1462239120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Lol-md4 5* 10New user account < 1462239125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/altswat < 1462239129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462239149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the proper one either. besides, the swatter is a private weapon. < 1462239177 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1462239225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mine. although sometimes people steal it. < 1462239256 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*goes to buy a weapon* < 1462239348 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0== 🐌 snail cannon, anyone? < 1462239356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh fancy < 1462239381 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keyboard input works in my OS now :) < 1462239395 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits oerjan with a snail 0==🐌  < 1462239399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: That's amazing < 1462239421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mein is fancier :,( < 1462239429 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was my idea, so < 1462239432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i'm being shelled < 1462239436 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat hp < 1462239440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad hp < 1462239445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, my weapon is a sharpened walrus tusk. < 1462239450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not removed from the walrus) < 1462239472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: No emoji :,( < 1462239474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fancy, but inconvenient < 1462239493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am the walrus. So, convenient. < 1462239495 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``mkdir moonstuff < 1462239497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `mkdir: not found < 1462239504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Don't abuse hackego < 1462239509 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik :P < 1462239514 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to add the snail < 1462239517 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1462239518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: HackEgo is for things of general interest. < 1462239522 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol true < 1462239526 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0==🐌 < 1462239542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL there's a snail emoji. < 1462239582 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :🐌 < 1462239590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon__ has the snail cannon, /me is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there? < 1462239600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you also paul mccartney twh < 1462239600 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits oerjan with a snail 0==🐌 < 1462239609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No commnet < 1462239611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*comment < 1462239619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though no comets either < 1462239631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is shellshocked < 1462239644 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits oerjan with a snail 0==🐌 for puns < 1462239690 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462239740 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION greets Kaynato with the snail cannon 0==🐌 < 1462239755 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1462239768 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon__ has the snail cannon, /me is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there? < 1462239791 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals oerjan's swatter < 1462239796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i also have the saucepan for more serious whacking < 1462239799 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat oerjan < 1462239801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad oerjan < 1462239814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still not my swatter. < 1462239829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I also have the esobell lying around here somewhere... < 1462239834 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses the community swatter < 1462239838 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esobell? < 1462239845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Yes, the esobell < 1462239849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rings the esobell < 1462239870 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fires snails at it, making it all slimey 0==🐌 < 1462239888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1462239894 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462239907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462239919 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its called logging out on your device < 1462239923 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you forgot to log out of < 1462240011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: No, snail < 1462240018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: It brought up unpleasant parallels < 1462240047 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx bin/userweps//echo boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon__ has the snail cannon, /me is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there? < 1462240057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/userweps < 1462240058 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx bin/userweps//echo boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon__ has the snail cannon, hppa is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there? < 1462240060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/userweps < 1462240068 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`userweps < 1462240068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Why < 1462240069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240072 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz < 1462240073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Why did you put it in bin? < 1462240082 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx bin/userweps//echo boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppa is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there? < 1462240084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/userweps < 1462240087 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``userweps < 1462240088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `userweps: not found < 1462240092 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`userweps < 1462240093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir jnk < 1462240103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240103 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat did i do wrong? < 1462240110 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the code < 1462240116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/userweps jnk/userweps < 1462240122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/userweps < 1462240128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo < 1462240131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462240141 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkx jnk/userweps//'echo boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppa is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there' < 1462240146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnk/userweps < 1462240152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/userweps < 1462240153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppa is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there < 1462240156 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./jnk/userweps < 1462240157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppa is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there < 1462240183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "s/echo //" jnk/userweps < 1462240187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/userweps < 1462240194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppa is a motherfucking walrus, what else is there < 1462240213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "s/hppa/hppavilion[1]/" jnk/userweps < 1462240218 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "s/, what else is there//" jnk/userweps < 1462240239 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/userweps < 1462240245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has the mapole, oerjan has the swatter, moon has the snail cannon, hppavilion[1] is a motherfucking walrus < 1462240249 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv bin/something jnk/something.bin < 1462240251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `bin/something jnk/something.bin' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462240257 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/something jnk/something.bin < 1462240259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `bin/something': No such file or directory < 1462240261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why .bin? < 1462240263 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/something jnk/something < 1462240265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `bin/something': No such file or directory < 1462240269 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its executable < 1462240274 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/Something jnk/something < 1462240274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Um? < 1462240282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: *nix doesn't use extensions < 1462240282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240287 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1462240291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/something < 1462240294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....0@.....@....... ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....À.......À............................@......@............................................@.......@.....\ ......\ ........ ....................`......`.....`......¬....... .................`.....`.....à.......à................ < 1462240294 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it for identification < 1462240297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462240301 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its mine < 1462240303 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worrys < 1462240306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :``mv jnk/something bin/something < 1462240307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `mv: not found < 1462240308 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its useless < 1462240312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv jnk/something bin/something < 1462240315 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462240317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240319 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its mine tho < 1462240320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Keep binaries in bin/ < 1462240325 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462240336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: jnk is for keeping files that are meant to be catted < 1462240342 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462240346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: And single data files < 1462240373 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk jnk/readme//This area is for files ment to be catted and single data files < 1462240377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnk/readme < 1462240379 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462240382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462240386 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk jnk/readme//'This area is for files ment to be catted and single data files' < 1462240390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnk/readme < 1462240406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/ment/meant/ jnk/readme < 1462240409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240419 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat readme < 1462240421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: readme: No such file or directory < 1462240423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv jnk/readme jnk/README < 1462240424 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/readme < 1462240427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: jnk/readme: No such file or directory < 1462240435 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/README < 1462240437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'This area is for files meant to be catted and single data files' < 1462240454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/'// jnk/README < 1462240457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462240471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "s/'//" jnk/README < 1462240479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462240490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bookofeso < 1462240493 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:5/And fungot called the cloud internet, and the hard drive *n?x. And the DNS and the server were upon the first day. < 1462240528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom Moon_ < 1462240530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/cat: : No such file or directory < 1462240541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Moon_ < 1462240543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462240546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462240548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh/heh stands for hope ectoplasm helps. < 1462240548 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon < 1462240550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a person, not an unretroreflectorey object. < 1462240559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1462240568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ectoplasm < 1462240570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ectoplasm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462240578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kill oerjan < 1462240578 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg < 1462240579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill: failed to parse argument: 'oerjan' < 1462240582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's a little mean < 1462240587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim oerjan < 1462240588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: maim: not found < 1462240611 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can junk have batch files, like a maim file? < 1462240622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Batch files go in bin, AFAIR < 1462240629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that doesn't make much sense < 1462240630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462240677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0== 💩 -> 🐌 < 1462240685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`🐚 < 1462240688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 🐚: not found < 1462240698 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0==🐌 < 1462240733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk jnk/🐚//(1+sqrt(5))/2 hth < 1462240737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnk/🐚 < 1462240743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/🐚 < 1462240744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(1+sqrt(5))/2 hth < 1462240751 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convenient < 1462240842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Unicode doesn't support the IS(I[SL])? flag. Weird. < 1462240872 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462240934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to put the Illuminati Control Panel under bin/🔯, but I'm afraid of looking like a complete asshole. < 1462240939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg < 1462240960 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462241205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Messed up terminal < 1462241206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462241362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462241384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux seemed to have zombified itself :( < 1462241404 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462241418 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to shutdown the machine < 1462241428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my machine < 1462241441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not quite zombified, kill -9 worked < 1462241700 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing ftl < 1462241704 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :got an enemy ship where all the weapons are beams < 1462241706 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462241735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls jnk < 1462241737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐚 \ README \ userweps < 1462241779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/🐚 < 1462241781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(1+sqrt(5))/2 hth < 1462241802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 🐚 < 1462241804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐚? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462241818 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv {jnk,wisdom}/🐚 < 1462241824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462241833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? userweps < 1462241836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :userweps? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462241848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv {jnk,wisdom}/userweps < 1462241853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462241863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat jnk/README < 1462241864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This area is for files meant to be catted and single data files' < 1462241874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r jnk < 1462241878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462241882 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462241893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those belong in wisdom and share, respectively, hth < 1462242059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is incidentally also the place i'll probably move other directories to if you keep filling the toplevel with them. < 1462242204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -a < 1462242221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ ---##, \ ---▦▦ \ ---▦▦, \ :-( \ !\.´ \ . \ .. \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ .hg \ .hg_archival.txt \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ p < 1462242233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -a < 1462242237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ ---##, \ ---▦▦ \ ---▦▦, \ . \ .. \ .hg \ .hg_archival.txt \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ :-( \ :-D \ Complaints.mp3 \ Eternity \ ReUariBw \ Something.c \ ^ \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls < 1462242252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls .s* < 1462242253 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access .s*: No such file or directory < 1462242260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1462242384 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462242391 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1462242416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i exterminated the jnk/ directory and moved the important parts to wisdom/ < 1462242429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seemed redundant to me. < 1462242437 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up made that, not me < 1462242448 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hp < 1462242461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it was a bit confusing all around < 1462242470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with my client crashing about then < 1462242482 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1462242492 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use the site < 1462242499 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically all around < 1462242569 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'wisdom userweps < 1462242737 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462242821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/PRIVMSG < 1462242822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/indirecho echo "$@" < 1462242830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/indirecho < 1462242831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/indirecho: No such file or directory < 1462242837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/PRIVMSG < 1462242840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462243018 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1462243575 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1462243610 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boop < 1462243709 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1462243713 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beep < 1462243823 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462243847 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462244269 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: adu < 1462244515 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462244771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462244814 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462244822 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462244911 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462244926 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone one mentioned to me a puzzle of Magic: the Gathering cards, which is for a permanent to be attached to another permanent that shares a planeswalker type with it, both controlled by the same player, and remain attached for an entire turn. < 1462246189 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462246394 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462246541 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462247905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462248202 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462248229 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462248466 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462248497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@24.237.158.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462248717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks suspiciously at Naraka  < 1462248917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: It's like I need to take a hint, but I don't know _how_... < 1462249262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is it possible? < 1462250123 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it is possible somehow. < 1462250158 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I am unsure whether it said owned by the same player or controlled by the same player; I forget. < 1462251271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were other specifications too but I forget some < 1462251663 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462252508 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462252550 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Quit: quit < 1462252913 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1462253305 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462253541 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462254307 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462254573 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462254894 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462254901 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1462255155 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462255549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@24.237.158.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462255936 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462256073 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462256693 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462256764 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462256905 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's "owned by the same player", there's no way to get around the planeswalker uniqueness rule otherwise (I've seen the puzzle, it also requires that both permanents are actually planeswalkers) < 1462256938 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permanents that aren't planeswalkers can't have planeswalker types I think. < 1462256960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Non-creature permanents can still have creature types though, but that's different.) < 1462257054 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, losing a type makes you lose its subtypes? < 1462257055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"owned by the same player" makes more sense. < 1462257093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would a subgame with ante work? < 1462257408 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have asked the same question. I would do it that ownership changes simply persist across subgame boundaries, as well as restarted game boundaries (but not necessarily across duel boundaries; that is up to match rules). < 1462257466 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does ante work if you have a 7-card library? < 1462257489 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and don't mulligan) < 1462257496 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a situation that can come up with subgames < 1462257509 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually IMO the most sensible way to do ante with subgames is to not ante at the start of the subgame < 1462257526 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I did also specify that you don't ante at the start of a subgame. < 1462257529 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any cards that end up in the ante zone at the end of the subgame are transferred to the library of the subgame's winner in the next game up < 1462257534 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that some cards may nevertheless add stuff to the ante zone. < 1462257724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My specification would be that they are shuffled into the main game library belonging to the subgame's winner once the subgame is finished, since he owns them. < 1462257929 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other consideration of ante is interaction with team game. I would specify that for a subgame, cards not already owned by the winning team are assigned randomly to winners of the subgame that are still in the subgame (players may concede the subgame at this time if they believe it helpful to assign to a particular player); for a main game, the winning team assigns cards that winning team doesn't own among themselves however they wish (whether < 1462257937 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462258039 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which way is best can depend on match rules. In the case of permanent ante, it may be necessary for the team to come to an agreement before the game starts.) < 1462258081 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this makes sense to you! What would you think of it? < 1462258407 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462258413 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think the rules for ante are a bit messy and would want to correct it. < 1462258653 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462259197 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@84.51.143.223 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1462259456 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-224-91.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462260208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462260813 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462261143 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-224-91.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462261291 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-224-91.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462261886 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462262029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462262098 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462262313 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462262343 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462265896 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462265898 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1462265901 0 :dingbat__!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1462265904 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462265917 0 :dingbat__!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1462265917 0 :dingbat__!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dokwncyjyaffrcao JOIN :#esoteric < 1462265922 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462265926 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gvqdhvucwxwyeygn QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462265963 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Excess Flood < 1462265963 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462265981 0 :dingbat__!?@? NICK :dingbat < 1462265990 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462266052 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462266102 0 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1462267042 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462267186 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462267287 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462267821 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462268134 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462268136 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462270633 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462270815 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462271983 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462274817 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462276276 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan you pun? are you shachaf in disguise? < 1462276276 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462276339 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Mhelloon_. what with the snail cannon? < 1462276869 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:5834:7bda:5663:c7a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462277122 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1462277250 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462277933 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FIGHTER CHICKEN < 1462278119 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462278746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cannon < 1462278749 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? snail < 1462278794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462278794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snail? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462278898 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Someone one mentioned to me a puzzle of Magic: the Gathering cards, which is for a permanent to be attached to another permanent that shares a planeswalker type with it, both controlled by the same player, and remain attached for an entire turn." -- tricky < 1462278973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, " zzo38: it's "owned by the same player", there's no way to get around the planeswalker uniqueness rule otherwise (I've seen the puzzle, it also requires that both permanents are actually planeswalkers)" < 1462279448 0 :adu!~ajr@111.sub-70-192-203.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: adu < 1462280038 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462281411 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462281664 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462282061 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1462282202 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like this idea of MtG puzzles. when there are that many rules to something, puzzles must typically amount to knowing lots of rules and where they apply < 1462282799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46913&oldid=46908 5* 03H3LL 5* (+127) 10 < 1462282830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46914&oldid=46913 5* 03H3LL 5* (+0) 10/* External resources */ < 1462283875 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-224-91.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462283989 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-194-61.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462284163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46915&oldid=46914 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+100) 10categories < 1462285892 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:5834:7bda:5663:c7a5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462286247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46916&oldid=46910 5* 03H3LL 5* (+140) 10 < 1462286703 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462286705 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462287327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46917&oldid=46916 5* 03H3LL 5* (+5) 10/* Confusion IDE uploaded */ < 1462289113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46918&oldid=46915 5* 03H3LL 5* (+15) 10/* Implementations */ < 1462290529 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462290673 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462291059 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462291241 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1462292172 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462292475 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462294122 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462294433 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462294572 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462294652 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462295420 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462295481 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462295643 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462295857 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462296444 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462296479 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:24a5:6cf4:f83f:f4a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462297009 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462297480 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462297717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462297857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the USA's current class (not a set, for obvious reasons) of predicaments in the Middle East needs a name < 1462297865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose "The Millennium Clusterfuck" < 1462297867 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462297968 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it need a name for < 1462298261 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can know what it is called. < 1462298480 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462299321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But that doesn't always help, e.g. with Lewis Carroll's song called "Ways and Means", whose name is "The Aged Aged Man". < 1462299409 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK it doesn't always help. But sometimes it help. < 1462299616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462299728 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462300195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462300484 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@24-156-46-20.erkacmtk02.com.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462300510 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1462301702 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1462301718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1035 < 1462301720 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1462301734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1035: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1462302064 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462303779 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@24-156-46-20.erkacmtk02.com.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462304599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462304728 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o great < 1462305006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462305232 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my brother's idea of Un-card "In A Band With Others"? < 1462305372 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to generate an optimized palette? < 1462305577 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462305613 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i propose brushfire wars, on account of those were the conflicts preceding the zombie war in world war z < 1462305665 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ask codu < 1462305674 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462305700 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(optimized for what? < 1462305702 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1462305845 0 :nchambers!nchambers@carmelirc.duckdns.org PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1462305856 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462306126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[073code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46919&oldid=44834 5* 0382.2.190.177 5* (-10) 10Updated to new link < 1462306148 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462306202 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@129.22.1.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462306312 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462306393 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462306595 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462306909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462306944 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want "optimized" in the sense of best representing some non-palettized image, I think a classic method is an octree-based quantization. < 1462306990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What would that card do? < 1462307005 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462307035 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462307309 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In A Band With Others {1W} Enchantment - Aura ;; Enchant creature ;; Whenever enchanted creature attacks as part of a band containing additional creatures, its controller must sing a song during the entire duration of the attack. Combat damage is not dealt until song is complete. < 1462307321 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind of a classic in that field is the http://members.ozemail.com.au/~dekker/NEUQUANT.HTML which I know mostly because it's based on a Kohonen network, and my office used to be almost next to Kohonen's. But it also has ended up in quite a few programs. < 1462307343 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etter learn some 5 second long songs < 1462307367 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell did i do,that < 1462307377 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you made a B into a ^B. < 1462307377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must have pushed control instead of shift < 1462307396 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462307400 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1462307407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would expect it to interact with the "bands with other" mechanic. < 1462307445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It doesn't matter whether it is ordinary banding or "bands with other", as long as it is attacking as part of a band containing additional creatures. < 1462307462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, but I would have expected it to explicitly interact with that mechanic. < 1462307483 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although that isn't what it does < 1462307491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote name for a band < 1462307688 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462307711 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462307758 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462307807 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462307833 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462307847 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462307917 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462308139 0 :singingb1yo!~brandonso@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308139 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1462308369 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308412 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462308696 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308696 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308698 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462308885 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1462308972 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462309015 0 :spiette!?@? NICK :Guest4429 < 1462309040 0 :Guest4429!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462309065 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462309071 0 :Guest4429!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462309239 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1462309315 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1462309431 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? web < 1462309433 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :web? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462309437 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gold < 1462309438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462309472 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? money < 1462309474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :money? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462309534 0 :Guest4429!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462309551 0 :spiette_!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462309631 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1462309633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1462309645 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes they could understand this < 1462309696 0 :spiette_!?@? NICK :spiette < 1462309770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether ybden uses "I" or "we" when speaking in the first person < 1462309807 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sometimes "we"; mostly "I". < 1462309819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: huh what? < 1462309847 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "they" is to the third person as "we" is to the first person < 1462309897 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462309906 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, it's re “ybden wishes they could understand this” < 1462309913 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably. < 1462310029 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon_journas < 1462310056 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you understand it? < 1462310064 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462310331 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462310471 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :butthenthisreall < 1462310485 0 :butthenthisreall!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1462311325 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462311398 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462311628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462311962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462312618 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462312655 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462313323 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462313325 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1462313550 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@129.22.1.19 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462313951 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1462313956 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls jnk < 1462313958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access jnk: No such file or directory < 1462314006 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag < 1462314009 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1462314011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1462314237 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462314243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ ---##, \ ---▦▦ \ ---▦▦, \ :-( \ !\.´ \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ < 1462314258 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`---▦▦ < 1462314259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ---▦▦: not found < 1462314263 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ---▦▦ < 1462314263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: unrecognized option '---▦▦' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462314270 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ---▦▦/ < 1462314270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: unrecognized option '---▦▦/' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462314274 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /---▦▦/ < 1462314275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /---▦▦/: No such file or directory < 1462314280 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /---##/ < 1462314281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /---##/: No such file or directory < 1462314284 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ---## < 1462314286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: unrecognized option '---##' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462314302 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -- ---## < 1462314303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: unrecognized option '-- ---##' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462314314 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ./--## < 1462314316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ./--##: No such file or directory < 1462314320 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ./---## < 1462314321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ./---##: No such file or directory < 1462314329 0 :Xe!znc@infoforcefeed/Xe PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462314339 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does it not properly handle --? < 1462314351 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@thetis.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462314356 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the unacessable flyswatter < 1462314380 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aparently not < 1462314390 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat ybden < 1462314390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad ybden < 1462314413 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use a single ` the given command gets at most one argument... even if you have more than one space < 1462314451 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la -- ---##, < 1462314454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 9 May 3 00:25 ---##, < 1462314465 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462314489 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1462314516 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ---##, < 1462314520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log: option ---##, not recognized < 1462314524 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk! < 1462314532 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol someone is trolling us < 1462314533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ./---##, < 1462314538 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rsomeone is trolling us; < 1462314552 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits "---##," < 1462314556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is trolling us < 1462314564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462314569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ < 1462314571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462314577 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait huh < 1462314584 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never made a -## < 1462314590 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i know of < 1462314596 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: that'll just pass a file name that contains a " character < 1462314616 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I was willing to take the chance that it got passed to bash somewhere along the way. :P < 1462314621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, two of them) < 1462314631 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:24a5:6cf4:f83f:f4a2 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462314634 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462314636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462314650 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does hg do the -- thing? < 1462314660 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/CIOL < 1462314671 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wrong thing < 1462314680 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1462314681 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/CIOL < 1462314683 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuu < 1462314693 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0==🐌 < 1462314701 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/removed/removed --/' bin/culprits < 1462314702 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snail cannon* < 1462314707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462314708 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ---##, < 1462314715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ < 1462314726 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never made those that i kno of < 1462314734 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ---#, < 1462314735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: unrecognized option '---#,' \ Try `cat --help' for more information. < 1462314740 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ./---#, < 1462314741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ./---#,: No such file or directory < 1462314744 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ./---##, < 1462314746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad moon < 1462314753 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462314768 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is shitting with me < 1462314804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ` echo >---##, bad moon < 1462314817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(initial ` omitted) < 1462314850 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it, but i dont think i ever said that < 1462314914 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, somebody calling themselved moon__ did, 21ish hours ago. < 1462314928 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462314947 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462314983 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1462314986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ blessyou \ bookofeso \ < 1462315008 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do i browse hackegos file system again < 1462315010 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a site.. < 1462315021 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1462315119 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`luarocks < 1462315121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ LuaRocks 2.0.12, a module deployment system for Lua \ \ NAME \ luarocks - LuaRocks main command-line interface \ \ SYNOPSIS \ luarocks [--from= | --only-from=] [--to=] [VAR=VALUE]... [] \ \ GENERAL OPTIONS \ These apply to all commands, as appropriate: \ \ --server= Fetch rocks/r < 1462315181 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462315192 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia bioly < 1462315196 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boily < 1462315203 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_! < 1462315220 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :biological boily: bioly. < 1462315273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wat < 1462315274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚሰራ የምግብ አይነት ሲሆን፣ የሚሰራውም ከጤፍ ነው። < 1462315318 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir templates < 1462315320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462315453 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/terminalWrapper//'output=$(softwaretorungoeshere) | eval $output' < 1462315457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/terminalWrapper < 1462315474 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply executes any command that the program passes on < 1462315511 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``mv templates/terminalWrapper templates/termwrapperOut < 1462315513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `mv: not found < 1462315515 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :software to rung? < 1462315520 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv templates/terminalWrapper templates/termwrapperOut < 1462315523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462315526 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'software to run goes here' < 1462315539 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alongside its arguments < 1462315575 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that it doesnt get any hackego side assistance like '' < 1462315589 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls templates < 1462315591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termwrapperOut < 1462315610 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1462315627 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you ring software? ♪ < 1462315627 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and have a cost on everything in the file, not one cluttered with macros implementing half a reader, so passing it invalid arguments will result in a lot of things < 1462315652 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywasy < 1462315662 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that output wrapper might work, eh? < 1462315695 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output=$(softwaretorungoeshere) | out2 = eval $output | echo $out2' < 1462315697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462315721 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` `output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | out2 = eval $output | echo $out2' < 1462315722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462315737 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 'output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | out2 = eval $output | echo $out2' < 1462315738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | out2 = eval $output | echo $out2: command not found < 1462315748 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 'output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | out2 = eval $output' < 1462315748 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | out2 = eval $output: command not found < 1462315756 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 'output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | eval $output' < 1462315757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | eval $output: command not found < 1462315759 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whayt < 1462315764 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval should exist < 1462315803 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output=$(ciol recho oops!;) | eval $output < 1462315805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462315818 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output=$(ciol recho win;) | eval $output < 1462315819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462315832 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output=$(ciol recho win;) eval $output < 1462315833 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462315836 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1462315848 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output=$(ciol rls;) eval $output < 1462315849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462315853 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1462315896 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/termwrapperOut//output=$(ciol rls;) eval $output < 1462315899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462315911 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/termwrapperOut//output=$(command and args goes here) eval $output < 1462315913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: and: command not found \ templates/termwrapperOut < 1462315927 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/termwrapperOut//'output=$(command and args goes here) eval $output' < 1462315930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462315942 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462316009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cmd='echo Hi\!'; eval "$cmd" < 1462316011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1462316050 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEllo. < 1462316056 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/termwrapperOut//'output=$(command and args goes here) eval "$output"' < 1462316060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462316066 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx int-e < 1462316095 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/termwrapperOut//'output='Command goes here' eval "$output"' < 1462316099 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462316106 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is learning new tricks < 1462316118 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is rather unlike a old dog < 1462316120 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing the point. < 1462316143 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also has it occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, HackEgo isn't the best interface for learning shell programming? < 1462316153 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462316174 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is too lazy to install linux* < 1462316186 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*windows lacks all the commands* < 1462316187 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if one happens to understand all the intricacies of shell programming through HackEgo, that's impressive! < 1462316197 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: shame. ♪ shame. ♪ < 1462316204 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Not anymore... https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about < 1462316220 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Ubuntu you machine! shoo! go and install! < 1462316260 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does cygwin have the commands? < 1462316290 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :install the real deal. < 1462316311 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin has a bash and the relevant gnu tools < 1462316312 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cygwin has an almost POSIX shell. but you're missing out on the Real Stuff.) < 1462316317 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hem, i hate windows 10 < 1462316338 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles moon_ with a FOSS mapole < 1462316398 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1462316399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1462316400 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a FOSS mapole is just as functional as an ordinary mapole but without the good looks ----###] < 1462316418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's not a mapole hth < 1462316433 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: your mapole looks suspiciously like a swatter hth < 1462316469 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperial mapoles look like that < 1462316470 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1462316506 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have the time to install win 10 right no < 1462316518 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my pc is annoying and wont let me in the first place < 1462316585 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embrace the Eightfold Way of the Penguin. < 1462316644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-93.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462316679 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462316717 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eightfold, hmm < 1462316745 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now, cygwin is the best i can do < 1462316793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, besides Ubuntu and Gentoo, are there any other Linux distributions named after actual penguins? < 1462316809 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. Ubuntu is a species of penguin??? < 1462316814 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't. < 1462316831 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a Seed of Doubt planted in his soul < 1462316877 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's not... what am I mixing up this time... < 1462316895 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1462316933 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Korora is Māori for Little Penguin" ... that wasn't it, but it's cute. < 1462317053 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462317123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? korora < 1462317124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :korora? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462317137 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ubuntu < 1462317138 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462317140 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gentoo < 1462317142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentoo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462317143 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? debian < 1462317144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462317154 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? penguin < 1462317155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :penguin? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462317157 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls templates < 1462317158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termwrapperOut < 1462317218 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.com/raw/BGTV9E93 < 1462317219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-03 22:13:32 URL:http://pastebin.com/raw/BGTV9E93 [3761] -> "BGTV9E93" [1] < 1462317259 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv BGTV9E93 templates/esolanginterptemp-ciol- < 1462317260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `BGTV9E93 templates/esolanginterptemp-ciol-' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462317268 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv BGTV9E93 templates/esolanginterptemp-ciol- < 1462317271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462317291 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpreter's basic code is a good template :P < 1462317298 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/linuxone/enterprise-linux-systems/rockhopper.html < 1462317301 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's a penguin. < 1462317320 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls templates < 1462317321 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolanginterptemp-ciol- \ termwrapperOut < 1462317394 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly empty, but of use < 1462317395 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1462317410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I misremembered and Gentoo was the only one I ever knew. < 1462317420 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the weirdest name. < 1462317427 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid unreliable brain < 1462317427 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it end with a dash. < 1462317453 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointing something out < 1462317454 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with it < 1462317483 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462317489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ ---##, \ ---▦▦ \ ---▦▦, \ :-( \ !\.´ \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ < 1462317538 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -- ---* < 1462317542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462317550 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ^ < 1462317551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462317557 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-( < 1462317558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☹ < 1462317564 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would argue the proper name and place would be src/ciol.c, if you wanted to have that source on the bot. < 1462317581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil < 1462317583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: evil: Is a directory < 1462317588 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mk templates/termwrapperOut//'output="Command goes here" eval "$output"' < 1462317593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462317603 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat termwrapperOut < 1462317603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: termwrapperOut: No such file or directory < 1462317608 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh do you keep doing that.. < 1462317610 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was broken, i viewed it < 1462317631 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output=Command was hat it contained < 1462317638 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat templates/termwrapperOut < 1462317640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output="Command goes here" eval "$output" < 1462317649 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's arguably still "broken". < 1462317650 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good gosh >_> < 1462317703 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk templates/termwrapperOut//output='Command goes here' eval "$output" < 1462317706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462317709 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1462317710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1462317715 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat templates/termwrapperOut < 1462317716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output='Command goes here' eval "$output" < 1462317717 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. so that's what it's for < 1462317732 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being very, very evil < 1462317741 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil < 1462317743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: evil: Is a directory < 1462317747 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1462317747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1462317787 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well im getting better at shell scripting in hack ego, right? < 1462317810 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shell scripting in general :P < 1462317827 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`output='ciol' eval "$output" < 1462317829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: output='ciol': not found < 1462317837 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462317841 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a value < 1462317845 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wont it work < 1462317884 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`output=`ciol` eval "$output" < 1462317885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: output=`ciol`: not found < 1462317912 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`output='ciol eval "$output" < 1462317915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: output='ciol: not found < 1462317918 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`output="ciol" eval "$output" < 1462317918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: output="ciol": not found < 1462317922 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1462317930 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even read what it's saying? < 1462317948 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is idiotic and doesnt quite get the output* < 1462317956 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`output="ciol" eval $output < 1462317957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: output="ciol": not found < 1462317969 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output="ciol" eval $output < 1462317970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462317970 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trying to execute a command called: output="ciol" < 1462317975 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohlol < 1462317981 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output="ciol rhi;" eval $output < 1462317982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462317998 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output="ciol recho hi;" eval $output < 1462318000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462318003 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462318010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :......... < 1462318021 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` output="cat bin/evil" eval $output < 1462318023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462318028 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*idiotic* < 1462318041 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet you keep trying the same thing < 1462318073 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LARGE CHICKEN < 1462318091 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*needs explainaiton* < 1462318109 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` foo=bar echo ${foo} < 1462318110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462318112 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cmd='echo Hi!' sh -c 'eval $cmd' # let's have some variation here < 1462318114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1462318125 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1462318131 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1462318135 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a difference between a=b c and a=b;c < 1462318152 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` foo=bar echo $foo < 1462318154 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462318162 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is HackEgo a proper shell interpreter? < 1462318167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: YES < 1462318176 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: $foo is expanded by the shell... < 1462318184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` foo=bar sh -c 'echo $foo' < 1462318186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar < 1462318200 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk templates/termwrapperOut//cmd='echo Hi!' sh -c 'eval $cmd' # thx int-e < 1462318203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462318212 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat termwrapperout < 1462318213 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` export foo=bar; echo ${foo} < 1462318214 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo=bar is passed as an environment variable to echo (or would be, if it were not a shell builtin) < 1462318219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: termwrapperout: No such file or directory < 1462318219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar < 1462318222 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk templates/termwrapperOut//cmd='echo Hi!' sh -c 'eval $cmd' rem thx int-e < 1462318226 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I just forgot how variables worked < 1462318227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462318230 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rem work here? < 1462318233 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uknow < 1462318236 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :batch like comments < 1462318259 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: comments are prefixed with hash < 1462318260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` foo=bar; foo=baz sh -c "echo $foo \$foo" < 1462318262 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar baz < 1462318276 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk templates/termwrapperOut//cmd='echo Hi!' sh -c 'eval $cmd' # thx int-e < 1462318278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462318282 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wont show up in the file.. < 1462318292 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462318316 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1462318327 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows up in the file viewer on the site < 1462318334 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/df2153221fce/templates/termwrapperOut < 1462318335 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1462318345 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that templates directory will come in handy some day < 1462318355 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful < 1462318360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, don't thank me for that < 1462318372 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk templates/termwrapperOut//cmd='echo Hi!' sh -c 'eval $cmd' < 1462318378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/termwrapperOut < 1462318481 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is really the wrong way to do it. but it's demonstrating something.) < 1462318883 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's certainly something. < 1462318943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462318961 0 :fowl!?@? NICK :f0wl < 1462318962 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I can't quite deduce what that something has to do with the concepts "term", "wrapper" or "out". < 1462318991 0 :f0wl!?@? NICK :notfowl < 1462319037 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462319041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462319081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1462319081 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 11h 53m 25s ago: you pun? are you shachaf in disguise? < 1462319133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I'll have you know I punned before shachaf was even born (or so I assume, my memory is a bit vague) < 1462319133 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462319150 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that was a bit of a weird question. < 1462319150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nothing existed before shachaf was born hth < 1462319152 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTP and all that. < 1462319162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one true pun? < 1462319163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that'd explain it. < 1462319181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not entirely sure how old shachaf is. < 1462319193 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462319196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :approaching dinosaur territory < 1462319204 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :[REDACTED]'s terrible pun. < 1462319209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dinosaur = 30? < 1462319213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1462319218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's beyond dinosaur < 1462319228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not get carried away here < 1462319238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're misspelling mammoth or sabretooth tiger, then < 1462319240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no offense to the ultrasaurs of this channel < 1462319301 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking somewhere between 23-27. < 1462319304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take sabretooth tigre < 1462319370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i joined #haskell almost 10 years ago < 1462319387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as you know, everyone joins when they're 16. < 1462319398 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this function wont work, idk why const char * formatBash(char* potxt, char* scripttorun) { char* prostring = "echo "; strcat(prostring,potxt); strcat(prostring,"\n"); strcat(prostring,scripttorun); return *prostring; } < 1462319399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+- < 1462319414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except those who were 16 before irc was invented. < 1462319418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was not yet 16 < 1462319446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like i was pretty close, then. < 1462319493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's probably related to my latest addition to `? oerjan < 1462319525 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :You return a char as const char* and use a static string as mutable char* it should be const char* < 1462319533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which also prompted me making `? overlord) < 1462319542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to make < 1462319565 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complaining of conflicting typues < 1462319570 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fixed that < 1462319592 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"return *prostring" tries to return a single char. < 1462319605 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one prostring points at. < 1462319611 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462319623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( has fizzie made a diagram of wisdom/ editors yet ) < 1462319649 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: An unforgivable lapse. No, I haven't. < 1462319656 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive book cover in harry potter 5 http://i.imgur.com/aTxkJ7a.jpg < 1462319674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks corecursive to me hth < 1462319688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? lystrosaur # obviously by current age standards, i must be this. < 1462319690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. < 1462319774 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The illustrious lystrosaurs. < 1462319775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your puns are typically about one sixth of triassic hth < 1462319790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be formulating an Esolang Development Strategy < 1462319859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : its complaining of conflicting typues <-- conflicting typos are indeed insidious < 1462319897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling it Paradigm-Applicable Transplant < 1462319917 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hat is it for < 1462319917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, it's where you take two fairly different languages that share some similarities < 1462319937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a way to generalize those similarities in one of the languages (e.g. functions -> coroutines) < 1462319940 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trys to put brainfuck in c, gets CIOL* < 1462319942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then apply the generalization to the other language < 1462319954 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wants to go deeper* < 1462319970 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "formatBash" is a perfect name for a function that crashes the program. < 1462319980 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462319985 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made fails < 1462320005 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls templates < 1462320006 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp < 1462320007 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1462320010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolanginterptemp-ciol- \ termwrapperOut < 1462320013 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1462320014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for example, Generational Haskell comes from transplanting generators (semicoroutines) (something similar to functions) into Haskell (which is purely-functional) < 1462320020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1462320032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Me? < 1462320037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits templates < 1462320040 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: WHAT?! < 1462320052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ < 1462320056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, not even a swat? < 1462320061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, I just realized that HackEgo responses will still come through when used by someone you've blocked) < 1462320063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats moon_ -----### < 1462320073 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why would you extend a language by something the language can already express fairly well... < 1462320082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's just one example < 1462320092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i could make no sense of it. < 1462320094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Also, you can generalize the transplanted change into something new < 1462320109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462320116 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not I < 1462320138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i guess it applies to my own puns too in that case < 1462320138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: For example, a generator in Haskell- by my understanding- would be like a function together with a queue. When the generator is called, its return values (plural) are enqueued- in order- into the queue < 1462320151 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] < 1462320152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,... < 1462320167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the head of the queue is popped and returned to the caller < 1462320175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Usually people just use a list. < 1462320181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I may be misunderstanding generators, though I think that's an iterator < 1462320184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, true < 1462320194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should learn Haskell. < 1462320194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But this allows things like dup x < 1462320199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I should < 1462320203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which returns x < 1462320208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the next time it's called it returns x again < 1462320222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow. < 1462320232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I misunderstood generators < 1462320239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're not just going to let that pun slide off the screen are you < 1462320264 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unfoldr (\x -> Just (x, x+3)) 2 < 1462320265 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26,29,32,35,38,41,44,47,50,53,56,59,62,65,68,71,74,77,... < 1462320279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's just an example of the concept < 1462320286 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, have some "internal state" < 1462320304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what if i want side effects hth < 1462320314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what pun < 1462320328 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then Haskell isn't for you... or you are in iteratee territory. < 1462320331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the one you didn't make sense of < 1462320361 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my #esoteric window is only 80 x 21, anyway. < 1462320363 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though perhaps on this channel I should just suggest inlinePerformIO < 1462320392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18<shachaf18> oerjan: your puns are typically about one sixth of triassic hth < 1462320408 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I was going to say it should be 80x24 ... but yeah. 80x21 makes sense. < 1462320411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had slid off before you even started complaining < 1462320425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing it's back < 1462320433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's sharing vertical space with ##nomic. < 1462320434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't get it either < 1462320445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay. didn't expect that. < 1462320460 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I expected a 24 lines (standard) xterm with irssi :P < 1462320461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which only gets 12 lines, being usually silent.) < 1462320487 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-title -status -input) < 1462320488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why is it not tabbed? < 1462320495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's a max height window but a rather large font. < 1462320496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean, pseudo-tabbed < 1462320515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you're making assumptions < 1462320519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a rather not tall laptop screen < 1462320520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is this a custom IRC client? < 1462320530 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: irssi inside tmux < 1462320540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tmux only takes one line < 1462320559 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has forgotten what tmux is < 1462320567 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like screen, only different. < 1462320571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminal MULtiplexer < 1462320574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1462320580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUltipleXer < 1462320581 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1462320595 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` mk quines/ciol// +jrR+RjRr+++++[-p++++P]p_J----[-P+++p]P-oRJ*done;J < 1462320596 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminal MUXitrebbel. < 1462320601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1462320603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the pun is "halfassic" hth < 1462320609 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` mk quines/ciol//+jrR+RjRr+++++[-p++++P]p_J----[-P+++p]P-oRJ*done;J < 1462320610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1462320613 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462320614 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1462320615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooooooooooh < 1462320617 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk quines/ciol//+jrR+RjRr+++++[-p++++P]p_J----[-P+++p]P-oRJ*done;J < 1462320621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: when i tried screen it had trouble with unicode and someone suggested tmux was better < 1462320623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines/ciol < 1462320632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oooh < 1462320634 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/ciol < 1462320635 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+jrR+RjRr+++++[-p++++P]p_J----[-P+++p]P-oRJ*done;J < 1462320637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux has trouble with unicode too < 1462320684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the same trouble < 1462320684 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, screen has a long history of having trouble with Unicode going beyond the BMP. (Is that over now?) < 1462320693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think that's over. < 1462320694 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 亨 < 1462320703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+4EA8 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4EA8] < 1462320704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I heard they still didn't support four-byte UTF-8 sequences. < 1462320722 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat evil < 1462320723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: evil: Is a directory < 1462320725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never know whether to blame screen or something else when that doesn't work. < 1462320730 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making the UTCE specification more now; I am now writing the part about the Infocom character graphics set. < 1462320733 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1462320734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1462320753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My complaint is that I have one tmux session that has two or three clients connected to it at the same time. < 1462320764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only using one of those clients at a time, but I don't want to disconnect the others. < 1462320768 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scuse me, please dont interupt meat the sec < 1462320776 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir advice < 1462320778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462320778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: `bookofeso < 1462320783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But tmux always chooses the smallest one for the size of the terminal. < 1462320799 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462320801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :substructural typing/Not to be confused with structural subtyping. < 1462320810 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot about that < 1462320811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? modal logic < 1462320813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/substructural typing < 1462320813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modal logic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462320813 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1462320814 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm advice < 1462320816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462320816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `advice': Is a directory < 1462320821 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462320826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: About what? < 1462320830 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir advice < 1462320832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462320838 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: `wisdom < 1462320845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: ... < 1462320857 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got hung up on the concept of interrupt meat. < 1462320862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; list < 1462320868 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol *me at < 1462320879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no, meat was better. < 1462320879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] Phantom_Hoover int-e b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname < 1462320889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: To be fair, `wisdom is more definitions whereas `advice could be stuff to do < 1462320891 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no new entries. < 1462320905 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, true < 1462320907 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill make it then < 1462320912 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir advice < 1462320916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `advice': File exists < 1462320916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we need it. < 1462320919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Get someone's approval first :P < 1462320926 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol but you approved < 1462320933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I never approved < 1462320937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I just made a declaration < 1462320943 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, true < 1462320946 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nearly* < 1462320959 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who thinks we could have `advice? < 1462320976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I'm not qualified to approve because I love new `s < 1462320981 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could and should are two very different things. < 1462320984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bookofeso < 1462320987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:5/And fungot called the cloud internet, and the hard drive *n?x. And the DNS and the server were upon the first day. < 1462320990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1462320995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think HackEgo could and shouldn't have `advice as proposed. < 1462320996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It always says that one < 1462320998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bookofeso < 1462321000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:2/And #esoteric was without denizens, and empty; and the order was on the face of the PDP-8. And the software of fungot moved upon the face of the scrollback. < 1462321028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1462321029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1462321037 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, make it or not < 1462321042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: shachaf vetoes < 1462321046 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462321048 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy/HackEgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462321050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: 5 toes < 1462321053 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462321063 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462321064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit//quit < 1462321065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's#/"#//"#' bin/wisdom < 1462321068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462321075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you didn't do anything shachaf vetoed, you wouldn't have a lot of fun. < 1462321083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It comes with being a demisaur. < 1462321083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: The only person here with higher authority than shachaf is fungot iirc < 1462321084 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but are the problems only when connecting?' the closest thing to this we have in scheme, but can't < 1462321107 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the document of UTCE assigns the codes for all DEC Technical characters and all Infocom character graphics, as well as VT100 character graphics, PC character set, Russian alphabets, Apple MouseText, and partially single-wide katakana. < 1462321140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Why is it not tabbed? <-- there are other windows not shown < 1462321143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1462321144 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1462321149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1462321149 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1462321160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: looking for a good accountant, can you help < 1462321161 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: market short to them to you on the same as you guys...darlens should probably be march 31 and enron employees on the list that we found the right formula that would not have a second. < 1462321179 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing didn't turn out none too good. < 1462321180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have to add PETSCII. < 1462321193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits quines < 1462321200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ gamemanj oerjan oerjan elliott oerjan ais523 ais523 FreeFull shachaf shachaf shachaf < 1462321263 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hat do you think of the idea of 'advice < 1462321263 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: second, we respect the minimum the commission ( " commission" < 1462321272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( mk evil/101//Smile at a stranger. ) < 1462321311 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls evil < 1462321320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: stop making arbitrary top level directories in HackEgo. < 1462321323 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1462321326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :313 < 1462321343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Istanbul (not Konstantiniyye (not Constantinopolis/Constantinople (not Byzantium (not Byzantion)))) < 1462321361 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot mordor < 1462321374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `rm wisdom/substructural typing <-- WHAT < 1462321395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/substructural\ typing | grep summary? < 1462321399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462321401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Those are all previous names of Istanbul < 1462321401 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/substructural\ typing | grep summary: < 1462321406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: >wisdom/\'substructural typing\' echo Not to be confused with structural subtyping. < 1462321424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you think it should exist feel free to readd it hth < 1462321457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Personally, I don't think `wisdom should have "not to be confused with"s that aren't followed by a body < 1462321461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? structural subtyping < 1462321463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1462321469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saw that coming < 1462321492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: See, now it's lonely < 1462321503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You killed his brother < 1462321617 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I keep trying to type Dremel into a PostgreSQL client at home. < 1462321642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wish I could use Dremel. :-( < 1462321709 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/OUMI <- a rough approximation of the top-50 most referred wisdom entries, in case you want to know what definitely needs keeping. < 1462321755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why am I so high up? < 1462321764 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are dying to know things about you. < 1462321786 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprø som selleri < 1462321795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of crosant < 1462321796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462321801 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep everyone unless you run out < 1462321806 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1462321808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1462321809 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo *con* < 1462321810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology context < 1462321817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? context < 1462321820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :context is a word with many meanings, depending on where it is used. < 1462321827 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? conspirabiology < 1462321828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages. < 1462321873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: FWIW, the person with the most `? shachafs is shachaf. (With a count of 27, a sizeable margin from oerjan's 7.) < 1462321899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprø som selleri < 1462321912 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.stack.imgur.com/uYqPi.png found this while surfing < 1462321929 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-22 arguments :P < 1462322235 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e "print \"not arguing with that \"x22" < 1462322237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with that not arguing with tha < 1462322258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote argument < 1462322258 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axman6 says: Haskell is easy, you just apply functions to arguments, and then you apply them to other arguments. Axman6's girlfriend: I don't like conflict < 1462322264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote argument < 1462322264 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mike-burns says: Oh good, a semantic argument. Goodnight. < 1462322266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you don't need `` for perl -e hth < 1462322270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote argument < 1462322270 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Illegal unlifted type argument < 1462322271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote argument < 1462322271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet says: unsafeCoerce takes any argument. AND IT WINS THAT ARGUMENT. < 1462322271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote argument < 1462322271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: On Alpha, I can only handle 4 non-floating-point arguments to foreign export dynamic < 1462322305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it didn't < 1462322307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e print 1 < 1462322309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1462322332 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl print 1 < 1462322334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "print 1": No such file or directory < 1462322336 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1462322346 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl's just too magical. < 1462322348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dwim < 1462322349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwim? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462322356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lua -e print(1) < 1462322357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1462322362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some others too < 1462322435 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( dwim/ITYM gwim, guess what I mean. ) < 1462322462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c print(1) < 1462322465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ print(1) \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1462322478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly python isn't. < 1462322488 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` python -c 'print(1)' < 1462322490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1462322507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -cprint(1) < 1462322508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1462322512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that works < 1462322521 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is room for additional non-JIS double-wide characters in UTCE, since banks 0xA0 and 0xFF are not used. < 1462322553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hm < 1462322555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ hm < 1462322567 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also character codes 0x80 to 0xA0 and character code 0xFF are not used within any double-wide bank so far. < 1462322575 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1462322576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1462322641 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best 404 error page ever: odu.org/ < 1462322652 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*https://www-s.acm.illinois.edu/siggraph/eoh_projects/eoh2002.html < 1462322719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Moon_: Mhelloon_. what with the snail cannon? <-- i refused to let em use the swatter, so e had to shell out for a personal weapon < 1462322719 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462322749 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a really old 404 joke, I really don't think acm.illinois.edu is where it originated. < 1462322759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that line feels so empty without a hth < 1462322784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you hth it < 1462322787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hth your personal weapon < 1462322801 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is UTCE? < 1462322810 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does it have some documentation? < 1462322814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: didn't you use it first < 1462322820 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, hth? < 1462322835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got hth from you < 1462322864 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://motherboard.vice.com/read/probably-the-most-uncanny-404-page "Cole Gleason, chair of ACM@UIUC, tells me that the 404 page dates back at least to 2003. It's not known who wrote it initially." that's a good internet archeology spelunking expedition subject for someone. < 1462322865 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: This document http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce but it is incomplete < 1462322884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: maybe you should go work with fizzie < 1462322890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1462322891 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Wed May 4 00:48:10 2016 < 1462322921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hi shachaf and i can't agree who used hth first twh < 1462322927 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1462322972 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perhaps < 1462323059 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 2001: http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=103;t=000053 < 1462323072 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I mean, my logs aren't any sort of authoritative source, but at least based on a rough search, the first #esoteric occurrence would be 2008-04-22 10:37:29 ITYM "olkoslept" HTH HAND. < 1462323086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oooh < 1462323098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well surprise out of left field, there < 1462323123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i might still have gotten it from you < 1462323123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also itym "okloslept" < 1462323136 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plausible. < 1462323137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true. < 1462323137 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pretty sure that www.scintilla.utwente.nl site is where I saw it first) < 1462323146 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: some people think "olkoslept" is correct < 1462323152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should hold an oklopoll < 1462323182 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The second occurrence in my logs is 2008-08-10 12:32:42 Mostly used in the construction "ITYM 'foo' HTH HAND". -- I think I was explaining something -- and then a gap of almost two years, followed by four comments in 2010 that use the now-familiar lowercase end-of-sentence hth. < 1462323203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1462323218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :four comments in 2010 that use the now-familiar lowercase end-of-sentence? < 1462323221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't parse that. < 1462323238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try putting "" in quotes < 1462323248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the now-familiar lowercase end-of-sentence what? < 1462323256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try putting the hth in quotes too hth < 1462323272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1462323293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The shachaf hth use starts from 2012-11-20 onwards.) < 1462323307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott got mad at me for using hth in #haskell and elsewhere < 1462323311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was completely fair < 1462323326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also elliott probably got mad at me for other things < 1462323414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible. < 1462323476 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we get a plot of hth over time too? < 1462323484 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've done that. < 1462323510 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, -----HTH < 1462323530 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a clue swatter) < 1462323541 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will attempt to get some sort of a sketch, assuming I can recall what the PostgreSQLese is for strftime_usec. < 1462323659 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: http://sprunge.us/XhiZ there's some per-month counts. < 1462323757 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep mad wisdom/elliott < 1462323764 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1462323771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462323825 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xen.firefly.nu/up/2016-05-04_020336.png hm < 1462323830 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a summer thing... buzzing mosquitos, chirping cicadas, hthing people < 1462323862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was looking at 2013) < 1462323886 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was the summer of '13", like the song goes. < 1462323915 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: interesting encoding < 1462324005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `olist 1035 <-- huh i was thinking the sound might do that but not that it might _help_ them. < 1462324067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think that's a sound. I would guess that it's just a lake. < 1462324135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits shachaf with the saucepan ===\__/ < 1462324189 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/ciolf//file=$1 data=$(cat "$file") sh -c "ciol $data" < 1462324197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ciolf < 1462324205 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf quine/ciol < 1462324207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/ciolf: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/ciolf: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1462324214 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/ciolf//file=$1 data=$(cat "$file") sh -c "ciol $data" < 1462324219 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ciolf < 1462324220 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf quine/ciol < 1462324222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: quine/ciol: Not a directory \ Segmentation fault < 1462324243 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1462324245 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462324248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ :-( \ !\.´ \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share < 1462324263 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf quines/ciol < 1462324266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1462324270 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.- < 1462324307 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb < 1462324308 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1462324335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/ciolf//ciol "$(cat "$1")" < 1462324339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ciolf < 1462324346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf quines/ciol < 1462324347 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+jrR+RjRr+++++[-p++++P]p_J----[-P+++p]P-oRJ*done;J < 1462324364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: hth < 1462324369 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :othx < 1462324439 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1462324440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm < 1462324463 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir src/ciol < 1462324465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462324484 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462324494 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk src/ciol/helloworld.ciol//rHello, World!; < 1462324496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462324508 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462324509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1462324566 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/bff//bf "$(cat "$1")" < 1462324570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bff < 1462324577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there's an even shorter way than using cat but i always get confused about it. < 1462324586 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bff src/brainfuck.fu < 1462324606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462324613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < ? < 1462324617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462324628 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo efzdfcvfdesfzds | bff src/brainfuck.fu < 1462324635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, it needs to be an argument... < 1462324655 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462324660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462324663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the exact syntax. < 1462324667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "$(< wisdom/oerjan)" < 1462324670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: that's not a brainfuck program but a brainfuck interpreter in fueue < 1462324673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your infamous mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462324682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OKAY < 1462324696 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir src/bf < 1462324697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462324703 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :src needs some organization < 1462324712 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir src/c < 1462324713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462324719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you organize by language? < 1462324724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: it wasn't big enough for that. < 1462324732 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz < 1462324747 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my little habit < 1462324775 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1462324787 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a file based command for bf and ciol is basically a good thing < 1462324863 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think? < 1462324885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462324891 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about ciolf and bff < 1462324900 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file based scripts for ciol and bf < 1462324955 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462324962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1462325007 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1462325009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ blessyou \ bookof < 1462325072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that's not very modular :( < 1462325103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm not sure it didn't already exist somewhere. HackEgo has a lot of cruft. < 1462325104 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1462325123 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very modular ho < 1462325136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: making a new command for every old one. < 1462325149 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh true < 1462325200 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfd`mkx bin/genf//$2 "$(cat "$1")" something that would ork like this (altho this is invalid, think about the $2) would work for that < 1462325213 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh. is that `culprits bin/you-can-only-run-this-once [20:29] moon_ tswett tswett tswett [20:29] http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/2b92018dd204/bin/you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325592 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :matches the C file convention < 1462325593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: you-can-only-run-this-once: not found < 1462325602 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we removed it < 1462325608 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e dont need you wiping the bin folder < 1462325614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Ah < 1462325622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Huh? < 1462325624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the question of whether it should work as `f or `` f < 1462325638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't know. < 1462325639 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat '#!/bin/rm' > bin/you-can-only-run-this-once; chmod +x you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: #!/bin/rm: No such file or directory \ chmod: cannot access `you-can-only-run-this-once': No such file or directory < 1462325652 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoopsies. < 1462325657 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/rm' > bin/you-can-only-run-this-once; chmod +x you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `you-can-only-run-this-once': No such file or directory < 1462325670 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462325674 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: try it now! < 1462325679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett isn't up to date on the latest `mkx developments < 1462325682 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462325683 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462325683 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ :-( \ !\.´ \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share < 1462325688 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1462325689 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ blessyou \ bookof < 1462325689 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and again! < 1462325699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`you-can-only-run-this-once < 1462325699 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: you-can-only-run-this-once: not found < 1462325700 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin was deleted -.- < 1462325710 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good damn job < 1462325710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462325714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad//Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1462325716 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: you mean... bin/bin? < 1462325716 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1462325724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: A better challenge is you-can-only-run-this-twice < 1462325729 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin bin < 1462325730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin bin: No such file or directory < 1462325735 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's an interesting one. < 1462325736 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/bin < 1462325737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/bin: No such file or directory < 1462325740 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1462325741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ blessyou \ bookof < 1462325742 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Run file if it exists, otherwise interpret as code" is a heuristic that rarely goes wrong. And doesn't need extra commands. Maybe with a disambiguation -e argument for those rare cases. < 1462325745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: After that, make you-can-only-run-this-pice < 1462325773 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god quantum uncertainity has arrived < 1462325775 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi times? Hmm. < 1462325780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes < 1462325791 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi times would need a quantum cpu < 1462325802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 3 times definitely, then the remaining 0.14159... times are left up to implementation < 1462325815 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1462325817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: The winner is determined by awesomeness of implementation behavior < 1462325817 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1492 < 1462325820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1462325828 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/1492 < 1462325829 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2017 < 1462325832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) != "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi < 1462325833 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462325856 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l bin/{1,2}* < 1462325857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462325863 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l bin/{1,2}* < 1462325866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 80 Jan 1 00:05 bin/1492 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 79 Dec 9 04:12 bin/2014 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 80 Dec 31 20:32 bin/2015 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 79 Jan 1 18:00 bin/2016 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 79 Jan 1 18:00 bin/2017 < 1462325898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`main oerjan < 1462325898 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciolf src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462325903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: main: not found < 1462325903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1462325907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1462325914 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim < 1462325914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim tswett < 1462325918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: maim: not found < 1462325918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: maim: not found < 1462325944 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego really needs a way to do /me s < 1462325946 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk bin/maim// echo $1 has been badly maimed! < 1462325949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maim < 1462325951 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462325953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/maim: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/maim: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1462325956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: That's not funny enough < 1462325960 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/maim// echo $1 has been badly maimed! < 1462325962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Also, you didn't mkx < 1462325964 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maim < 1462325964 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462325965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] has been badly maimed! < 1462325971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462325975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will make a good one < 1462325979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/8-ball < 1462325980 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ shuf -n 1 share/8ballreplies < 1462326055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/maim//shuf -n 1 share/maimery | sed "s/\$target/$1" < 1462326058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maim < 1462326066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/maim//shuf -n 1 jnk/maimery | sed "s/\$target/$1" < 1462326069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maim < 1462326073 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/uristfail//echo urist was killed in a goblin seige attempting to retreive a spare sock #temportary < 1462326076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/uristfail < 1462326078 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppa < 1462326081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no jnk/ < 1462326083 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnk was deleted < 1462326086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1462326087 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by oerjan < 1462326091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/maim//shuf -n 1 share/maimery | sed "s/\$target/$1" < 1462326094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maim < 1462326095 0 :tswett_!~tswett_@c-68-48-150-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462326095 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uristfail < 1462326097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urist was killed in a goblin seige attempting to retreive a spare sock < 1462326101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk share/maimery//$target has been badly maimed! < 1462326101 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462326104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :share/maimery < 1462326111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim oerjan < 1462326112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 16: unterminated `s' command < 1462326113 0 :tswett_!~tswett_@c-68-48-150-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ACTION does something < 1462326114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ACTION does something. < 1462326115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1462326120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/maim//shuf -n 1 share/maimery | sed "s/\$target/$1/" < 1462326122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maim < 1462326125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim oerjan < 1462326125 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that didn't work. < 1462326127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has been badly maimed! < 1462326142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I will add some new maimery via PM < 1462326148 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462326152 0 :tswett_!~tswett_@c-68-48-150-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1462326174 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well? < 1462326175 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a command to add new maimery hppavilion[1] < 1462326182 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0001 \ UTF-8: 01 UTF-16BE: 0001 Decimal:  \ . \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1462326187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chants I BEFORE E at moon_  < 1462326188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: No, we don't need one < 1462326209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f ciol src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462326210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1462326211 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the minimum viable implementation of 'f', but it's there. < 1462326226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's HackEgo's third-person pronoun? < 1462326257 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ${1%% *} "$(< ${1#* })" wtf does that mean?! < 1462326268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, that didn't work. <-- yeah ACTIONs were disabled when HackEgo added botloop protection. < 1462326304 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f bf < 1462326305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/f: line 1: ${1#* }: ambiguous redirect < 1462326329 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f ciol src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462326331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1462326339 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f ciol < 1462326340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/f: line 1: ciol: No such file or directory < 1462326343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim HackEgo < 1462326344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo has been badly maimed! < 1462326346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim HackEgo < 1462326347 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*sigh* < 1462326349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim HackEgo < 1462326351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now where did I leave my jumper cables... < 1462326370 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`append < 1462326371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/append: line 1: : No such file or directory < 1462326378 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything similar to append? < 1462326393 0 :tswett_!~tswett_@c-68-48-150-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462326394 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did say it was the minimum viable. Don't expect it to do anything reasonable if you don't actually give it both a command and a file. < 1462326398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Just use `` echo >> bin/maimery < 1462326491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't misspell it < 1462326508 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] has been badly maimed! < 1462326511 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ${1%% *} "$(< ${1#* })" just maps `f foo bar -> foo "$(< bar)" < 1462326512 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*sigh* < 1462326515 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the bears < 1462326518 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326519 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now where did I leave my jumper cables... < 1462326520 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326522 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*draws their sword* < 1462326523 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the bears < 1462326526 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] has been badly maimed! < 1462326529 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* < 1462326530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Spaaaaaaaaaaam < 1462326533 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*sigh* < 1462326540 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/maimery < 1462326541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just lost an arm! \ just lost an leg! \ just got fried by jumpercables! \ just melted off their fingers! \ just froze off their fingers! < 1462326545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim test < 1462326545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1462326546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* < 1462326548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim test < 1462326549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the bears < 1462326550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim test < 1462326552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the bears < 1462326553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim test < 1462326554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test has been badly maimed! < 1462326563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: You put it in bin < 1462326566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: might want to chop off final spaces < 1462326567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: It should be in share < 1462326573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I do see why it happened though < 1462326577 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said bin < 1462326577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: My mistake < 1462326587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some other commands had trouble with that and tab expanding nicks < 1462326589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will fix it < 1462326602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo `cat bin/maimery` >> share/maimery < 1462326605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462326612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target has been badly maimed! \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ *sigh* \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ just lost an arm! \ just lost an arm! just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! just melted off their fingers! just froze off their fingers! \ just lost an leg! < 1462326652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/!/!\n/' share/maimery < 1462326656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462326661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target has been badly maimed! \ \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ *sigh* \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ just lost an arm! \ \ just lost an arm! \ just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! just melted off their fingers! just froze off their fingers! \ just lost an < 1462326674 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim HackEgo < 1462326674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just got fried by jumpercables! < 1462326676 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim HackEgo < 1462326677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326687 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put $target before that < 1462326692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\n /\n$target' share/maimery < 1462326693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unterminated `s' command < 1462326698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\n /\n$target/' share/maimery < 1462326700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462326704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target has been badly maimed! \ \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ *sigh* \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ just lost an arm! \ \ just lost an arm! \ just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! just melted off their fingers! just froze off their fingers! \ just lost an < 1462326718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '7,$s/^ */$target /' share/maimery < 1462326721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326722 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :send halp < 1462326727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right, thank you < 1462326730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1462326739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: except what you did first broke it < 1462326745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1462326749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1462326754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim oerjan < 1462326756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has been badly maimed! < 1462326760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was already done < 1462326775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: as i said, make it strip final space < 1462326777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/ */ /' share/maimery < 1462326780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ hppavilion[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462326792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I will when it works < 1462326812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/^ //' share/maimery < 1462326815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462326823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462326824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462326826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1462326830 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1462326832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462326833 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target has been badly maimed! \ \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ *sigh* \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ $target *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! just melted off their fingers! just < 1462326849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\n*/\n/m' share/maimery < 1462326853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462326855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462326856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ $target has been badly maimed! \ \ \ \ *draws their sword* \ \ I'll get the bears \ \ *sigh* \ \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ \ $target *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ \ $target just lost an arm! \ \ $target \ \ $target just lost an arm! \ \ $target just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! jus < 1462326859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UM < 1462326880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steps away from the keyboard < 1462326883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh i see the problem. echo `cat bin/maimery` rejoins the lines in bin/maimery with spaces before echoing them. you wanted just cat. < 1462326894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah < 1462326899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, bin/maimery < 1462326905 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/cat-halp-1-1.jpg < 1462326911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*share/maimery < 1462326916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, yes < 1462326920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/maimery < 1462327202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this became a _lot_ harder to fix because you kept (including moon_) kept using HackEgo after the error happened. < 1462327244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462327255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see. i think a temporary file is in order. < 1462327260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462327261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ $target has been badly maimed! \ \ \ \ *draws their sword* \ \ I'll get the bears \ \ *sigh* \ \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ \ $target *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ \ $target just lost an arm! \ \ $target \ \ $target just lost an arm! \ \ $target just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! jus < 1462327322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep . share/maimery >/tmp/1; mv /tmp/1 share/maimery < 1462327326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462327329 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target has been badly maimed! \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ *sigh* \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ $target *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an leg! just got fried by jumpercables! just melted off their fingers! just fro < 1462327358 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462327420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '6s/[^ ]* //;8d;10s/! just/!\n just/g' share/maimery < 1462327422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/maimery < 1462327427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target has been badly maimed! \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ *sigh* \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an leg! \ just got fried by jumpercables! \ just melted off their fingers! \ just froze off the < 1462327450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tail share/maimery < 1462327451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ just melted off their fingers! \ just froze off their fingers! \ $target just lost an leg! \ $target \ $target just got fried by jumpercables! \ $target \ $target just froze off their fingers! \ $target \ $target just melted off their fingers! \ $target < 1462327497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep ' [^ ]' share/maimery >/tmp/1; mv /tmp/1 share/maimery < 1462327502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tail share/maimery < 1462327509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an leg! \ just got fried by jumpercables! \ just melted off their fingers! \ just froze off their fingers! \ $target just lost an leg! \ $target just got fried by jumpercables! \ $target just froze off their fingers! \ $target just melted off their fingers! < 1462327523 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462327525 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switched devices < 1462327584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '7,$s/^ *[^$]/$target /' share/maimery < 1462327588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url share/maimery < 1462327599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/share/maimery < 1462327608 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol this is still going? < 1462327619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1462327626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1462327630 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim oerjan < 1462327638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tail share/maimery < 1462327639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1462327641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the bears < 1462327641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an leg! \ just got fried by jumpercables! \ just melted off their fingers! \ just froze off their fingers! \ $target just lost an leg! \ $target just got fried by jumpercables! \ $target just froze off their fingers! \ $target just melted off their fingers! < 1462327684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '7,$s/^ *\([^$ ]\)/$target \1/' share/maimery < 1462327688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327714 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat usercmds < 1462327715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: usercmds: No such file or directory < 1462327728 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat shared/usercmds < 1462327729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: shared/usercmds: No such file or directory < 1462327745 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/usercmds < 1462327746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f: give the data from a file as the argument to a command like bf \ bf: simple brainfuck intepreter, bf brainfuck code < 1462327765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '7,11d' share/maimery < 1462327767 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more cmds < 1462327768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '7s/an/a/' share/maimery < 1462327830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462327875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, i should have just used vim and `fetch. < 1462327935 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a JOIN :#esoteric < 1462327941 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462327967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :khoily < 1462327986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Cale < 1462327988 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told to bring my printf library here :D < 1462327990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1462328006 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale! < 1462328013 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :took you long enough to get here! < 1462328019 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1462328034 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone from #haskell seems to make it here eventually < 1462328045 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellowtchrjan. < 1462328048 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have too many channels open < 1462328058 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud. < 1462328058 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 28m 45s ago: I'll have you know I punned before shachaf was even born (or so I assume, my memory is a bit vague) < 1462328058 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1h 28m 58s ago: Moon_: Mhelloon_. what with the snail cannon? <-- i refused to let em use the swatter, so e had to shell out for a personal weapon < 1462328059 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/category-printf-0.1.0.0 < 1462328087 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles oerjan with one hand. < 1462328087 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the version with the docs already in place but it has screwy upper bounds, so the new version fixes that) < 1462328133 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I use the cokleisli category for the comonad of functions out of a monoid m to get an oddly-practical library for typed printf format specifications < 1462328149 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's basically a typed stack programming language < 1462328157 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> :t printfLn (dup . s . " plus " . swap . dup . s . " equals " . apply2 (+) . s) < 1462328157 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :printfLn (dup . s . " plus " . swap . dup . s . " equals " . apply2 (+) . s) < 1462328157 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric : :: (Num t, Show t) => t -> t -> IO () < 1462328157 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> printfLn (dup . s . " plus " . swap . dup . s . " equals " . apply2 (+) . s) 4 6 < 1462328157 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 plus 6 equals 10 < 1462328179 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cool rhello calle, our new friend; < 1462328180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cool: not found < 1462328193 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/category-printf-0.1.0.1/src/src/Control/Category/Printf.hs -- everything is pretty much a one-liner < 1462328199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Didn't people make stack languages that you can use with just application, rather than (.)? < 1462328204 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462328209 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've done that before as well... < 1462328211 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rhello cale, our new friend, autocorrect is stupid; < 1462328214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello cale, our new friend, autocorrect is stupid < 1462328221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can make it work here for printfing. < 1462328232 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea < 1462328233 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: oh boy, way to nerdsnipe me < 1462328236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe the OverloadedStrings instance would have to be too general. < 1462328241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Do you band with other Seans of the Hunt? < 1462328246 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make programs for hackego < 1462328251 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In c < 1462328254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm that reminds me i still got my unfinished fmap experiment open in vim. < 1462328259 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to understand the ((->) m) comonad < 1462328259 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego is a Unix system < 1462328260 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably < 1462328283 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ciol was made in windows and compiled for Unix < 1462328284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's the same sort of thing as the (m,) Monad. < 1462328293 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, if you think about a function out of a monoid, you can apply that function to the identity, which gives you a natural mapping (m -> a) -> a < 1462328295 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: did you install linux during my absence? < 1462328301 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1462328303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1462328306 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1462328313 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy and shiternet < 1462328332 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think evil is broken < 1462328338 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`evil < 1462328338 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: and you also have a somewhat obvious way to turn a function (m -> a) into a function (m -> m -> a) which just multiplies its two arguments before applying the given function < 1462328340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL A PUPPY EVERY DAY. < 1462328341 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares sternly at Moon_ < 1462328359 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: ah right, ok < 1462328368 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so that's your extract and duplicate < 1462328371 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1462328380 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil is broken < 1462328400 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :extend is (m -> a -> b) -> (m -> a) -> (m -> b)... < 1462328407 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f ciol src/ciol/helloworld.ciol < 1462328414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1462328416 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's easy, ok < 1462328416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : In c <-- Cale is a haskell expert. sadly HackEgo lost its haskell abilities in a server move. < 1462328420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Don't worry about extend, you can write it with duplicate and extract. < 1462328425 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat f < 1462328427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: f: No such file or directory < 1462328431 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it helps me understand the semantics though < 1462328451 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could we reimplent haskell? < 1462328455 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :For this library, you probably want to think about Cokleisli for that comonad directly < 1462328460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Also (e ->) is a monad and (e,) is a comonad exactly when e is a comonoid. < 1462328461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: in fact iirc he once maintained lambdabot < 1462328480 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its identity is just the extract we already talked about < 1462328510 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: haskell is tricky to implement. although i recall Taneb was part of a student project doing it. < 1462328513 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right. And all haskell types are comonoids, correct? < 1462328541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure, if you want to be pedantic about it. < 1462328544 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1462328556 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1462328563 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a shame oerjan < 1462328564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_GHC_ haskell can only be implemented by GHC, though. more extensions than you can shake a stick at.) < 1462328569 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huehuehuehuehue < 1462328600 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, for the purposes of this library, we think about Cokleisli ((->) m) a b < 1462328603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i've shaken a stick at ghc's extensions before hth < 1462328649 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :as something which may write something in the monoid m, while "changing the type of printf from a to b", roughly < 1462328658 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think evil is broken <-- no, the creator just got so overwhelmed by what he'd done that he deleted all the entries except one. < 1462328667 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462328676 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moar entrys < 1462328682 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, something which adds a responsibility to provide another argument of type t would have type Cokleisli ((->) m) a (t -> a) < 1462328685 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who made it < 1462328686 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: how do you get "write something"? < 1462328703 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it receiving an m, not producing one? < 1462328713 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, given some x :: m, you have Cokleisli ($ x) < 1462328733 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :($ x) :: (m -> a) -> a < 1462328744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> run (now "hi " . later show . now "!") 1 < 1462328744 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462328745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hi 1!" < 1462328753 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so Cokleisli ($ x) :: Cokleisli ((->) m) a a < 1462328766 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/evil < 1462328771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1462328775 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: ok, think I follow < 1462328777 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tsweet < 1462328780 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really < 1462328782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/evil < 1462328783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$(find evil -type f | shuf -n1)" | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' < 1462328788 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not evil enough < 1462328794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls evil < 1462328795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :313 < 1462328795 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we have that as a formatter called c in the library < 1462328795 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cri < 1462328799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1462328805 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/category-printf-0.1.0.1/src/src/Control/Category/Printf.hs -- have a look at the source code < 1462328813 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TSWEET deleted everything else < 1462328815 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is used to write the IsString instance < 1462328826 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance (a ~ b, IsString s, Monoid s) => IsString (Cokleisli ((->) s) a b) where < 1462328826 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric : fromString = c . fromString < 1462328832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is a bad- wait, no, that doesn't work < 1462328855 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :The equality constraint is just to help type inference not get confused < 1462328868 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1462328874 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh I see < 1462328875 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll commit to the instance, and later decide that a and b really need to be the same type < 1462328891 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "~" in this context? < 1462328899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: i've shaken a stick at ghc's extensions before hth <-- well that was before. now there are simply too many kinds hth < 1462328902 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ~ b means that a and b must be the same type < 1462328905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1462328907 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :share/maimery//$target has been badly maimed! \ *draws their sword* \ I'll get the bears \ Now where did I leave my jumper cables... \ *grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* \ $target just lost an arm! \ $target just lost an leg! \ $target just got fried by jumpercables! \ $target just froze off their fingers! \ $target just melted off their f < 1462328924 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: yep, I see what's happening now < 1462328928 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really clever! < 1462328958 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, thank Ryan Trinkle for showing me that trick... and he told me whose blog he got it from, but I forget right at the moment < 1462328959 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1462328960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1462328971 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, i set a\upna]]]\|\\ < 1462328983 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the next thing after that is i < 1462328985 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya y i set up a better keyboard for my android < 1462328987 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :i :: Format m a (m -> a) < 1462328987 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :i = Cokleisli id < 1462329004 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, btw, type Format m = Cokleisli ((->) m) < 1462329016 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically just because I got tired of typing all the punctuation < 1462329023 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim cale < 1462329024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the bears < 1462329053 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: why can't you simply write (Cokleisly ((->) s) a a) if "a" and "b" are the same? < 1462329055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Moon_ < 1462329055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462329081 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sly/sli/ < 1462329097 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: basically because sometimes GHC won't *know* that the two types are the same when it's trying to figure out which instance of IsString to apply, and it won't commit to the instance in that case < 1462329111 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Moon < 1462329112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a person, not an unretroreflectorey object. < 1462329123 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: hrm < 1462329132 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: When it's selecting which instance to apply, GHC won't look at the constraint before the => < 1462329146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : yay, i set a\upna]]]\|\\ <-- [citation needed] < 1462329158 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it only considers that part *after* deciding to commit to using that instance < 1462329197 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaah! sudden illumination. < 1462329200 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Cale < 1462329202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Cale. Thale. < 1462329282 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: ok, let me try to write s now < 1462329302 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have formatString . show :: t -> s < 1462329315 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or t -> m) < 1462329316 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :fromString, you mean? < 1462329319 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes < 1462329325 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fromString . show :: t -> m < 1462329372 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, i :: Format m a (m -> a) < 1462329447 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... s = (. (fromString . show)) <$> i < 1462329515 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that works < 1462329612 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462329625 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1462329642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: you never left hth < 1462329652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now does < 1462329657 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol my client did < 1462329664 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have spliceWith :: (Monoid m) => (t -> m) -> Format m a (t -> a) < 1462329675 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I defined spliceWith f = Cokleisli (. f) < 1462329682 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the same as fmap (. f) i < 1462329686 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`haskall < 1462329687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: haskall: not found < 1462329707 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I defined s = spliceWith (fromString . show) < 1462329756 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add things like padding and more numeric formatting stuff like C printf has. < 1462329776 0 :Moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462329812 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other cool thing which is coming soon < 1462329835 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that reflex is going to get an update in the next few weeks which will add an Applicative instance for Dynamic < 1462329851 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that means that we'll be able to lift monoid instances through Dynamic < 1462329880 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have printfWith dynText using reflex-dom -- a printf with dynamically varying arguments < 1462329972 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course, we'll need instance (Reflex t, IsString m) => IsString (Dynamic t m) where fromString = constDyn . fromString < 1462329976 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1462330081 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are various other things which you could do with this and reflex-dom -- e.g. it could be used to string together widgets < 1462330092 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: the thing that would stop me from using it, of course, is having to manipulate the stack directly < 1462330108 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you don't usually really have to manipulate the stack in sensible uses of it < 1462330131 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1462330147 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to use an argument multiple times, I wonder if there's a way to get it to work using type-level nats < 1462330161 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1462330177 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, yes. < 1462330184 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think there is < 1462330186 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it with a type class < 1462330194 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right! < 1462330257 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, look at the implementation of the stack manipulation things < 1462330277 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible that using arr directly would be preferable to using dup/swap/etc. in most cases < 1462330343 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main Data.String Control.Arrow> printfLn (arr (\k x y -> k x y (x+y)) . s . " plus " . s . " equals " . s) 4 6 < 1462330343 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 plus 6 equals 10 < 1462330379 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh ok < 1462330536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( will all this inline away... ) < 1462330542 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which of course means that we can use the proc/do Arrow-notation to write formatters, which I haven't really begun to explore < 1462330556 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it does, haha < 1462330567 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all newtypes and tiny definitions < 1462330588 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny and non-recursive definitions < 1462330648 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, arrows are a thing < 1462330676 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, it doesn't interact with laziness very nicely < 1462330695 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if you try f = dup . s . f or something < 1462330705 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't get it to print an infinite string < 1462330735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462330785 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: STAIRCASE CHICKEN < 1462330892 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, just realised the type of skip is overly restrictive too < 1462331277 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's cool, I feel with this, we have a pretty good understanding of what printf format specifiers really "are", in some sense. < 1462331539 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462331552 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like this make me wish I was back in academia < 1462331568 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually impressed this didn't require type-level math logic either < 1462332420 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just working as a Haskell programmer, and basically a portion of my free time is spent on academic sorts of things :) < 1462332545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ./---##, < 1462332547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ./---##,: No such file or directory < 1462332872 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462333520 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462333536 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462334975 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462335307 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1462335340 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462335362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe Cale can figure out the fmap thing. < 1462335392 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: do you work in Brantford? < 1462335412 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spend too much of my free time on gaming stuff & politics for that... < 1462335559 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: hah! I googled "cale haskell" and it turns out there's a guy by that name who works at Bungie!? < 1462335591 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I remembered /whois exists < 1462335599 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what fmap thing? < 1462335633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were a few different things. < 1462335667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them was writing an expression using using only (.) that makes an arbitrary grouping function like (\a b c d e f -> a (b (c d)) (e f)) < 1462335714 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean that you're given a grouping function and your goal is to write it using (.)? < 1462336018 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1462336190 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found something I and my brother have written a long time ago about a new kind of Pokemon game, that can be played on PC (it is unclear whether DOS or purely PC) or on Nintendo DS. There was all various sort of strange stuff < 1462336312 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing was a cheat code to make all of your pokemons to be level 100. On the PC version the cheat code is to push all keys simultaneously, and on the DS version the cheat code is when it ask you for your name, type A and then switch to Japanese and try to add a dakuten mark to the A twenty times (nothing will happen the first nineteen times). < 1462336772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the first nineteen times maybe it increments a counter. < 1462336793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If truly nothing happened the first nineteen times then nothing would happen the twentieth time either. < 1462336838 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, it would increment a counter, but nothing else (no display of such counter or any other effect, and presumably you lose the chance if you do anything else) < 1462337069 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462337137 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what else was there? < 1462337253 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you name your character "VOID" you lose the game instantly. < 1462337367 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one of the items in the game is a "fuse"; if you use it then it confuses your own active pokemon. < 1462337379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it is possible to sell badges. < 1462337461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of the other questions were solved. < 1462337549 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462337556 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't the one about grouping functions just a special case of @pl? < 1462337585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the original question was whether you could do it without parentheses. < 1462337605 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? < 1462337618 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do that? < 1462337923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: not with just (.) < 1462337955 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, like lambdas and stuff? < 1462337998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the final set of battles you must enter the "Special Finals", which have several special sets of rules, including such things as 2 vs 1, doing the battle inside of a moving elevator, and other special rules. Also rename/delete is allowed anywhere, and pokemon moves used outside of battle still require PP and cannot be used if you have run out of HP. < 1462338003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that you can do grouping with combinations of (.) is easy. the next question was whether you can apply that recursively to flatten the grouping function as well. and with just (.) the answer is "obviously" no because (.),(.)(.),(.)(.)(.),... repeats after a while. < 1462338039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so the question now is, can you do it with only a few functions, each of which are combinations of (.)s < 1462338065 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462338080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you have infinitely many, you can do it: (.).(.).(.). ... . (.) are enough < 1462338082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1462338116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can write any grouping function as f_1 ... f_n where each f_i is of that form. < 1462338241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n might be 0, which is the only way to get id afaict) < 1462338264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you have id in the basis) < 1462338331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, only considering bases of functions that are themselves combinations of (.). if you can use arbitrary combinators not just "grouping", then there's a well-known method using CPS transformation. < 1462338418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the question is: Is there a finite basis that can construct all groupings this way < 1462338456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started looking at {(.), (.)(.)} as a possible basis but i lost concentration quickly. < 1462338526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: psst, Cale's surname is in his /whois hth < 1462338529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462338540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: never mind me reading scrollback one line at a time < 1462339108 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I live in Brantford and work out of my house. My employer is in New York. < 1462339175 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: ahh < 1462339322 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I work for Obsidian Systems on web applications for various clients written entirely in Haskell. < 1462339369 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Especially interesting is that we're using reflex-dom and ghcjs to build the frontends. < 1462339780 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462339920 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462340301 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462340410 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462340481 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462340857 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: cool < 1462340917 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462340991 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462342066 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah! < 1462342072 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is getting the crystal cruiser so hard :( < 1462343522 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462343727 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462344735 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adam Yedidia, a PhD student at MIT (but an MEng student when he did most of this work), has explicitly constructed a one-tape, two-symbol Turing machine with 7,918 states, whose behavior (when run on a blank tape) can never be proven from the usual axioms of set theory, under reasonable consistency hypotheses. < 1462344740 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725 < 1462344966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah scott is really speeding up his posting < 1462344983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opened his 5th shtetl-optimized tab < 1462345178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is clearly not shtetl-optimized-optimized < 1462345215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1462345300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm following comment threads and those have been active last week. < 1462345317 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aether Hack {U} Instant ;; Change text of target spell or permanent by replacing all instances of one named (i.e. not power/toughness) counter type word with another. (Does not affect what a keyword ability does.) Do you like this? < 1462345593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you use it? < 1462345604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess there are various uses. < 1462345642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like maybe it should only work until end of turn, if it's affecting a permanent? < 1462345711 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it lasts permanently like Artificial Evolution and Magical Hack and Sleight of Mind. < 1462345758 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also like those other cards, it can be used with your own and with opponent's cards, possibly including circumstances you have not anticipated. < 1462345764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess that happens. < 1462345772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should say "(This effect lasts indefinitely.)". < 1462345863 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462345887 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it could have that reminder text if you want to. < 1462345997 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try to see what possible uses there are, with official cards and/or with other custom cards. One use would be to reset something such as Delaying Shield. Another thing you can do is to replace "experience counter" with "poison counter" or vice-versa. There are a lot more. < 1462346234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use it on Dark Depths. < 1462346298 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too, it can make it to trigger immediately. < 1462346755 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462346872 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462346947 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462347475 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462348520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462348892 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sdl < 1462348901 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tgm < 1462348904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plc < 1462348912 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mit < 1462348941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462348941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462348941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tgm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462348941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462348955 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rtc < 1462348958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rtc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462353999 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462354598 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's may the 4th < 1462354844 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462354970 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-194-61.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462356023 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1462356023 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1462357893 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400:0:ed2:92ff:fe3b:ec82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462359723 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : Cale : oh. yes i remember figuring out that concatenative language trick, years ago :) < 1462359728 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing with this CPS trick for concatenative is that the stack is naturally heterogenous, and that composition reads from left-to-right (or perhaps that's not nice, depending on how you look at it) .. < 1462359842 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the not so nice thing is that it's CPS, perhaps with a very thin wrapping < 1462359977 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462360114 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for clarification, i should say that i didn't have the part involving the monoid `m'. only the CPS part < 1462360591 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462360591 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1462360624 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400:0:ed2:92ff:fe3b:ec82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462361487 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:44da:34dc:b90e:71d JOIN :#esoteric < 1462362383 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462363365 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: So many people out of work...get that Degree and rise to the top < 1462363392 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've added strikeout in the middle of "key" words -- I wonder if that actually does work for avoiding spam filters. < 1462363423 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"career>, "program", etc. < 1462363518 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get your Authentic Dr. Fizzie Degree Certificate Now! < 1462363589 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the one that advertised "No Examination! No Study! No Class!" < 1462363600 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Fast Worldwide Shipping. < 1462363628 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also "100% Confidenial" [sic], which I can't help thinking is some sort of a pun. < 1462363700 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works to a degree. < 1462364261 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462364438 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SWITCH CHICKEN < 1462365259 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Clearly you only can get a pogram from them < 1462365297 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-194-61.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462365777 0 :spiette!~spiette@216-246-240-132.cpe.distributel.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462366634 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462367433 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462369489 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: A pogram for my carer. < 1462370352 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462371783 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462372307 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462372794 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462373713 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462374438 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462375005 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462375079 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462375280 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462375558 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462375711 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462375780 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1462375925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462375939 0 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone find oerjan imho < 1462376119 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462376593 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462376741 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462378485 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462379315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462379415 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imho"? < 1462379482 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thought I knew what that means but it doesn't fit in Phantom_Hoover's line) < 1462379490 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imho < 1462379515 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462379529 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my horrible opinion < 1462380140 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462381910 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462381984 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462382073 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462382133 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462382157 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462383778 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypdlasrcjgbgugjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1462384422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462384566 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typically honest/humble < 1462384638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm designing something that I'm not smart enough to implement... < 1462384665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not something impossible, mind you, just something I don't have the required knowledge for (yet!)) < 1462384755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of thing is it? < 1462384917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Filesystem < 1462384928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's a sort of improved hybrid between Mobile and Desktop models < 1462384981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It creates safer & cleaner & more powerful applications without limiting the user by dividing executables into two types- sandboxed and free-floating (names are just off the top of my head) < 1462385072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The sandboxed ones declare all the stuff they need at install time and set up their working environment by telling the OS why sort of things they want- for example, you can have an application where long-term storage is 100% freeform (no file system, just a nice, protected section of non-volatile disk space to use however) < 1462385261 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could still be accessible as a file though so that commands such as dd and mv and rm can be used; if you use rm or rmdir then you can uninstall it. It doesn't seem the filesystem but rather can be made part of design of OS. Internally the storage might look differently but it is helpful to expose as a UNIX filesystem at least. < 1462385303 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It mean the user could customize the sandboxing of the program. < 1462385537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, using the free-form filesystem layout is discouraged < 1462385589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And you can remove a sandboxed application at will, there's a distinction between the application itself (the executable(s) when abstraction is stripped away) and the application's memory space < 1462385606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need a "Politician's Guide to the Interwebz" < 1462385643 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462386981 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462387609 0 :tromp_!~tromp@24.190.11.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462387872 0 :tromp_!~tromp@24.190.11.216 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462388062 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462388266 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write the program to reduce colours of a picture to a specified palette (you can independently specify the way to select the best colour per pixel and the dithering algorithm), but not the program to figure out optimized palette, yet. < 1462388876 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I should need to implement hold-and-modify. < 1462389320 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462389424 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1462389485 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462389570 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462389689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd made me happy < 1462389904 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1462389904 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1462389978 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462390093 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462390913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1462391444 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I wouldn't mind the snakes < 1462391457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes < 1462391466 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wanna link something to zzo but he left < 1462391467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I think that we should make the Consortium actually do it < 1462391494 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can use memoserv < 1462391673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Private Use Block is your friend, BTW < 1462391943 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462391964 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462392110 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:01:40 -MemoServ(MemoServ@services.)- zzo38 does not wish to receive memos. < 1462392403 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462393885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Var'aq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46920&oldid=36135 5* 032.97.117.195 5* (+230) 10/* External resources */ < 1462394442 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462396382 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462396567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Laconic14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46921 5* 03B jonas 5* (+1058) 10Created page with "'''Laconic''' is a programming language that compiles to a one-tape two-symbol [[Turing machine]]. The goal for its creation was to create two-symbol Turing machines with ver..." < 1462396661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Laconic count as an esolang? < 1462396681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes < 1462396685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pun intended) < 1462396686 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does, because its sole purpose is to write short programs in another esolang. < 1462396700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Turing machines count. < 1462396705 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think Laconic does. < 1462396757 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if Mouse counts because its original purpose was to have a very small interpreter, then Laconic is the same idea. < 1462397018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F24DBA5FB0A30E26E83B2AC5B9E29E1B161E5C1FA7425E73043362938B9800chaf < 1462397026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I spent far too much time on that) < 1462397035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1462397040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1462397057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just -chaf any old thing < 1462397060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The output of a sha256 hash, converted to hex < 1462397108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash of what < 1462397124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, I dropped the edges < 1462397131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thought they were control characters < 1462397131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1462397356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I give up < 1462397370 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462397382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, found it < 1462397402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F24DBA5FB0A30E26E83B2AC5B9E29E1B161E5C1FA7425E73043362938B9824chaf < 1462397405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go < 1462397428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't chaf me bro < 1462397491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If normal quantum physics is based on the complexes... < 1462397491 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], wait, any sequence of characters ending with 'chaf' is a SHA256 hash of something < 1462397513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in base 18 < 1462397521 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 17 < 1462397521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but the body of the hash is uppercase and in hex < 1462397526 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait.. no < 1462397527 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462397529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wait, what about the "h"? < 1462397542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we substitute the complexes for something weirder to get weird quantum physics? :P < 1462397580 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought you'd found something that hashed to *chaf < 1462397595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :starchaf < 1462397629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, no, that would be stupid < 1462397683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How would I possibly do that? < 1462397706 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :brute force < 1462397713 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how people find bitcoin vanity addresses < 1462397752 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462397769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but h isn't an exadecimal character < 1462397878 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. these two blog posts link each other as sources. < 1462397892 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one of the posters have a time machine. < 1462397904 0 :lynn!?@? NICK :fcrawl < 1462397910 0 :fcrawl!?@? NICK :lynn < 1462397916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: hi fcrawl < 1462397923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, this is all modulo me misunderstanding the image of SHA256 ofc. < 1462397946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the image of dorian gray < 1462398435 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462398449 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462399509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What is exadecimal, anyway? < 1462399525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a hexadecimal, but without the h. < 1462399532 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: 96 128*0.3^2 < 1462399532 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 8.64 11.52 < 1462399547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sure it's not base-1000000000000000000? < 1462399592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1462399602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's base-10000000000000000000. < 1462399662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :000000000000000000 < 1462399662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000000000 < 1462399667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1462399670 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1462399782 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462399880 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462399951 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462400267 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is dorian gray's image an 8-bit greyscale bmp? < 1462400436 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462400440 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1462400497 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f < 1462400505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/f: line 1: ${1#* }: ambiguous redirect \ /hackenv/bin/f: line 1: : command not found < 1462400514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`haskell < 1462400515 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: haskell: not found < 1462400517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ < 1462400521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462400524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ walrus < 1462400526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462400529 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f ciol rshame haskell doesnt exist; < 1462400529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/@ < 1462400541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/f: line 1: ${1#* }: ambiguous redirect < 1462400541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ $_ = join " ", @ARGV; if (s/^([^ ]*) +([^ ]*) +//) { print "$1: "; exec $2, $_; } < 1462400577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/. < 1462400579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/.: Is a directory < 1462400585 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rshame haskell doesnt exist; < 1462400586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame haskell doesnt exist < 1462400593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/? < 1462400596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnoooooodl \ echo hi \ exec \ #!/bin/sh \ CMD=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f1` \ ARG=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-` \ exec ibin/$CMD "$ARG"#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | se < 1462400601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, whoops < 1462400606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo bin/? < 1462400607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/` bin/̊ bin/ bin/! bin/? bin/¿ bin/' bin/@ bin/* bin/؟ bin/ bin/ bin/e bin/f bin/h bin/q < 1462400619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`؟ < 1462400620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/؟: line 1: ^: command not found < 1462400656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :؟I am walrus man lord of walrusing < 1462400658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1462400668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`¿ halp < 1462400669 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/¿: line 1: ^: command not found < 1462400683 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/cat-halp-1-1.jpg < 1462400684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/¿ < 1462400684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? "$@" | rev | tac < 1462400824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bin < 1462400826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/bin: No such file or directory < 1462400829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir bin/bin < 1462400831 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462400846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "echo *sigh*" > bin/bin/bin < 1462400853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462400856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bin/bin < 1462400858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/bin: Is a directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/bin: cannot execute: Is a directory < 1462401870 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the minimal f is clearly too difficult to use, added some error messages to when using it wrong. < 1462401905 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/f < 1462401907 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ cmd="$1" \ shift \ f="$*" \ if [[ -z "$f" && "$cmd" == *\ * ]]; then f="${cmd#* }"; cmd="${cmd%% *}"; fi \ if [[ -z "$f" ]]; then echo try: \`f command filename; elif [[ -e "$f" ]]; then "$cmd" "$(< "$f")"; else echo no such file: "$f"; fi < 1462401953 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462401955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ \ :-( \ !\.´ \ 71ab5gx8 \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ daoyu.c \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ lolwhy? \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUari < 1462401975 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ^ < 1462401976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462401983 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l ^ < 1462401986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 May 1 20:23 ^ < 1462402008 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l !\\* < 1462402010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 32 May 1 20:23 !\.´ < 1462402022 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat !\\* < 1462402025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'emergency signal toggled' < 1462402058 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 71 < 1462402059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: 71: No such file or directory < 1462402059 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1462402064 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 71ab5gx8 < 1462402065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include < 1462402085 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits 71ab5gx8 < 1462402103 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm ^ 71ab5gx8 < 1462402103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_ < 1462402104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `^ 71ab5gx8': No such file or directory < 1462402106 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, there must be a \r in that file. < 1462402114 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more to it than that. < 1462402120 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462402129 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste 71ab5gx8 < 1462402133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/71ab5gx8 < 1462402171 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know when HackEgo picked up this "\r terminates the output" thing, I didn't think that was always the case. < 1462402205 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's clearly not just straightforwardly trying to output it unfiltered, because the standard \rPRIVMSG stuff doesn't do anything bad. < 1462402241 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'foo\nbar\rbaz' # it's just strange < 1462402243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1462402254 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it just acts as EOF essentially < 1462402264 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, but why. < 1462402264 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'foo\r\nbar' < 1462402267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1462402283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it would act as EOF essentially if HackEgo *was* passing it through unfiltered. < 1462402283 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I dunno < 1462402308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie HireFly < 1462402313 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1462402325 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1462402327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was telling fizzie to hire you, obviously < 1462402327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf \ brainfuck.fu \ c \ ciol \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm < 1462402334 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly is probably a name for something that exists. < 1462402347 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv 71ab5gx8 src/bob.c < 1462402348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `71ab5gx8 src/bob.c' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462402350 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1462402352 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv 71ab5gx8 src/bob.c < 1462402355 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep doing that < 1462402355 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hirefly exists to help small and medium sized organizations hire better, so that more people can be engaged in meaningful work." < 1462402357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462402364 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm ^ < 1462402366 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462402380 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat daoyu.c < 1462402381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/* < 1462402386 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez < 1462402401 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these carriages to return. < 1462402416 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv daoyu.c src/ < 1462402421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462402425 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My professional recommendation for HackEgo spring cleanups is to go via the fshg. < 1462402429 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lolwhy? < 1462402430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: lolwhy?: Is a directory < 1462402450 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, right < 1462402466 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462402470 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im alive < 1462402530 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm lolwhy? < 1462402532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `lolwhy?': Is a directory < 1462402537 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir lolwhy? < 1462402538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462403074 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:44da:34dc:b90e:71d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462403678 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more I think about the rust language, the more I think that its language level use-once values really add a lot of expressivity to it. < 1462403776 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the moon_ < 1462403815 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit, the puns are taking revenge on me < 1462403989 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the largest n for which S(n) has been determined? < 1462404026 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope S is the successort function here. < 1462404034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :successor < 1462404035 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rado S < 1462404099 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462404479 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think Aaronson's blog post answers that question. < 1462404543 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1462404615 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall the Wikipedia article having a table. < 1462404630 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :4, apparently < 1462404637 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the Laconic author in this channel? < 1462404650 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have lower bounds for 5 and 6 < 1462404677 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 7 < 1462404797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the author is particularly laconic. < 1462404856 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that Yedidia has managed to get an academic paper out of a code golf < 1462404913 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if PPCG could improve on the Yedidia TM. < 1462404946 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462405110 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goldbach only needs 267 bits < 1462405129 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their paper appears to use 4964 < 1462405304 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462405364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462405678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imho < 1462405681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462405720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn IMHO means "In my humble omniscience". < 1462405723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'imho': IMHO means "In my humble omniscience". < 1462405782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In My *Holy* Omniscience < 1462405792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, both technically < 1462405794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1462405802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn IMHO means "In my holy omniscience". < 1462405803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The H is both "Humble" and "Holy" < 1462405806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'imho': IMHO means "In my holy omniscience". < 1462405814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: thx tdh hand < 1462405849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn IMHO means "In My Holy Omniscience". < 1462405852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'imho': IMHO means "In My Holy Omniscience". < 1462405941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm designing something that I'm not smart enough to implement... <-- tell me, are you _trolling_ for snarks? :P < 1462405957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How so? < 1462405968 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "that shouldn't be hard" < 1462405969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have to resist making one < 1462406018 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reading up on anti-piracy measures* < 1462406026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means i failed to meta-resist it, i guess) < 1462406046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: i think the Somalia operation worked pretty well < 1462406147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( maybe we should send RIAA there on a conference ) < 1462406199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i saw someone get downvoted on reddit for wanting to torrent the ramanujan movie, so there is _some_ nuance there. < 1462406225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I subscribe to the #esoteric school of economics < 1462406230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What is that school again?) < 1462406241 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: well there's a downside to a) targeting turing machines and b) compiling from a comparatively high level language. < 1462406250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: mostly cod, some haddock < 1462406319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: y'all did see the aaronson link yesterday? (hm, i've not got around to finish reading it yet) < 1462406327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f x < 1462406328 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1462406328 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M710835518429648114410516’ < 1462406328 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1462406351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t f . ($) < 1462406352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Typeable a, Typeable b, FromExpr c) => (a -> b) -> c < 1462406385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, I saw it mentioned and didn't have time... now I've followed the link to the paper on the esolang page on Laconic < 1462406424 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462406431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t f < 1462406432 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :FromExpr a => a < 1462406439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm weird < 1462406444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> f x < 1462406445 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Show t, FromExpr r) => t -> r < 1462406493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f < 1462406494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1462406494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M461523684287504534910579’ < 1462406494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1462406511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not sure I'll have the patience to actually read it. But the Goldbach program is relatively short in Laconic, and it really doesn't look like it should require 4888 states < 1462406555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"link to the paper"? < 1462406579 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :? https://esolangs.org/wiki/Laconic < 1462406600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i mean, did you really mean "to" there < 1462406605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462406637 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is probably blind to an alternative way of parsing this sentence right now. < 1462406661 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the paper on"... oh. < 1462406676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be confusing :) < 1462406996 0 :moon!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462407007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Laconic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46922&oldid=46921 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+14) 10Fmt < 1462407014 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the almost 5000 states they need has a roughly 4000 state interpreter for locanic < 1462407019 0 :moon!?@? NICK :Guest80724 < 1462407026 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laconic < 1462407039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well mostly it was just that i didn't realize someone made that page < 1462407079 0 :Guest80724!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1462407093 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: I see. < 1462407139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks formatting refs on esolang is confusing after he started using Cite templates on Wikipedia. < 1462407292 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is downloading freebsd to run on a virtual machine < 1462407545 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462407563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Var'aq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46923&oldid=46920 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-233) 10/* External resources */ merge and template < 1462407630 0 :Xe!?@? NICK :_8ade2af05f26 < 1462407653 0 :_8ade2af05f26!?@? NICK :Xe < 1462407717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can we substitute the complexes for something weirder to get weird quantum physics? :P <-- istr that discussed and the answer is essentially "no" < 1462407734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least quaternions give nothing more < 1462407758 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462407763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but what about the duals or split-complexes? < 1462407811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember what those are. < 1462407892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, another idea is that quantum physics is based on a different idea of probability, and somehow only ordinary probability and quantum probability work without breaking the light speed limit for information. < 1462407901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the dual numbers are what you get if you start with the numbers and reverse all the arrows hth < 1462407921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: meh < 1462407934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1462407958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :please try better than that if you want a swatting hth < 1462407972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hurt more than any swatting hth < 1462407977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1462408025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had some good ones yesterday < 1462408032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not breaking the light speed limit is important because it's so easy to make up something "weird" that fails to do that) < 1462408035 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1462408084 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the really weird thing about quantum mechanics isn't just how weird it is, but how it manages _not_ to give certain powers. < 1462408104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird, but not always weird enough. < 1462408212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dan piponi wrote about something like that < 1462408263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1462408319 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd is quite close to unix, right? < 1462408330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the image of dorian gray <-- . o O ( this file never changes, although it's SHA256 hash does... ) < 1462408338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1462408355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1462408380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one ever talks about that kind of attack on a hash function < 1462408383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :second image attack < 1462408534 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd is quite close to unix, right? < 1462408571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, http://blog.sigfpe.com/2013/10/distributed-computing-with-alien.html < 1462408593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It suggests that quantum mechanics is right at the edge of the space of possible physics that make life difficult for us. If quantum mechanics were to be tweaked the tiniest amount to make correlations any stronger, large numbers of difficult distributed computing problems would suddenly collapse to become trivial. If the conjecture is true it means that nature looks a bit like a conspiracy to keep comp < 1462408599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uter scientists in work." < 1462408607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close to unix, so far from plan 9 < 1462408638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm that might be where i got it from too < 1462408697 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1462408714 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means running a virtual machine of it and treating it like a terminal is not a bad idea (lol) < 1462408876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION think moon__ may have got whooshed < 1462408883 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1462408890 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can be batshit crazy at times < 1462408916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they're both POSIX systems, no? < 1462409014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1462409033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misread unix as linux < 1462409050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's all a big happy family. < 1462409074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mind the strange sounds in the attic. < 1462409194 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi woont work, saying the disk is readonly, but i have a empty disk mounted, help? < 1462409245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does df say < 1462409270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1462409302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about dwarves < 1462409353 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol damnit < 1462409367 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice one sha < 1462409382 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says i have two drives mounted (i guess?) rootfs and devfs < 1462409436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, that command doesn't say whether it's readonly. i've forgotten what does. < 1462409452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't do sysadmining himself. < 1462409499 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :'mount' generally does. < 1462409499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount < 1462409534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how's pooches? < 1462409555 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have root mounted as readonly, then mount will usually give incorrect information, because it tries to read the list of mounted disks from /etc/mtab which is read-only so previous mounts couldn't write it. < 1462409570 0 :moon!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462409580 0 :moon!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :connection died < 1462409594 0 :moon!?@? NICK :Guest90291 < 1462409603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i just had problems getting it to show only one mount. < 1462409608 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try reading /proc/self/mounts instead to ask the kernel to give you a list of mounts (sadly it's formatted to human-readable irreversibly) < 1462409611 0 :Guest90291!?@? NICK :moon___ < 1462409624 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: At least my mount just reads from /proc. I don't know about FreeBSD's, though. < 1462409640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i did df . first to get the mount point, then mount | grep ... < 1462409648 0 :moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462409655 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1462409692 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462409696 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what oerjan? < 1462409697 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And my /etc/mtab is a symlink to ../proc/self/mounts, apparently.) < 1462409702 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is linux shit* < 1462409715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: fizzie said you might have trouble if root is readonly < 1462409720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: three guesses: (1) try vim, (2) mount a writable disk (possibly a tmpfs) and use the :set directory command of vi to put the temp files there, (3) ask #vim on this network < 1462409720 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't. < 1462409724 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas did. < 1462409728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1462409741 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, i used the virtual disk supplyed by freebsd < 1462409744 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know whether that's an idiom or reference. < 1462409755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: please stop resembling fizzie twh < 1462409772 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4) if all else fails, just use sed, it doesn't need to create temp files < 1462409790 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rootfs is read only < 1462409795 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trouble, darnit < 1462409802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1462409815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1462409826 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: also, um, this might be dumb but, any chance you can just remount the root fs to read-write? < 1462409846 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any chance you can just have a normal installation of a thing. < 1462409860 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how? < 1462409870 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how b_jonas < 1462409922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: like, first find out why it was mounted read-only, if it was mounted read-only because there are serious file system or disk io errors, then it might be dangerous to try to remount so don't do it, but if it is mounted ro only at boot and something happened and the boot couldn't proceed then it MIGHT be safe to remount, < 1462409931 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: then mount -oremount,rw / < 1462409947 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a virtual machine < 1462409952 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant hurt anything for now < 1462409953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it's on a read-only disk, then it won't work) < 1462409962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely assumes moon___ has never used a unix-alike system before. < 1462409971 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that oerjan is right < 1462409979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he's just never adminned one < 1462409990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means this advice is probably a bit over his head < 1462410003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's pretty close to over mine, too) < 1462410032 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: This would be relatively normal experience to have as a *knowledgable* user of a typical Unix system. < 1462410033 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try just using a installation disk < 1462410043 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, learning unix by managing an installation at home and trying to fix stuff I break did work for me. < 1462410044 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "mount -u -o rw /" on FreeBSD, I believe. But, I mean, I distinctly remember a stock FreeBSD installation having writable storage. < 1462410060 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though certainly not, say, an OS X system, or a slightly less knowledgable user of a Unix system. < 1462410072 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx fizzie < 1462410073 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1462410110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: dunno, the mount might be but the vi magic part probably isn't. some unixy people can live their lives without knowing much of vi < 1462410125 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462410131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vim < 1462410132 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vi < 1462410136 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 5 < 1462410145 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ex < 1462410161 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, yes, knowing vi in detail is mostly gonna be admins or certain serious programmers. < 1462410175 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classically, you need to know enough of vi to get out of it. < 1462410181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462410184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi is in a relationship with emacs. < 1462410185 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462410185 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462410208 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my opinion is that you need to know enough of vi to modify some makefiles of another editor you compile < 1462410251 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On systems people *actually use*, knowing nano exists is plenty. < 1462410272 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized my system thinks it doesnt have mk, im worried it might not < 1462410274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46924&oldid=46918 5* 03H3LL 5* (+1) 10 < 1462410281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=718 < 1462410291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: mk is a HackEgo command we made ourselves. < 1462410296 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462410306 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462410315 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1462410316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo usage: "mk[x]" file//contents >&2; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "$key")" && echo "$key" < 1462410323 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: maybe you also have to know what handful of configuration you have to set to make programs invoke your editor of choice as the default editor, because not everything respects $VISUAL or $EDITOR < 1462410329 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462410331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: because we don't have proper terminal access for a normal editor. < 1462410342 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dnt get vi at all < 1462410355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: do you have nano, as pikhq suggested? < 1462410369 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1462410394 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1462410403 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we could implement a small stateful line editor though. probably something like the editors in basic or APL systems that don't renumber lines until you explicitly ask but let you insert lines between already existing ones. < 1462410443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: we don't like too much state, it clutters up the repository history < 1462410481 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah... isn't there a stateful directory (or other state) that's not versioned though, so we use that? < 1462410485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1462410487 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1462410498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even as an accidental feature or bug? < 1462410511 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as a known one. < 1462410513 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: what are you hoping to edit with vim anyway if your file systems are read-only? < 1462410531 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fixed that < 1462410534 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1462410551 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm... note to self, find some such bug < 1462410579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would likely involve a bug in the uml sandbox. < 1462410637 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd lacks vim < 1462410639 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has vi < 1462410644 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ee (easy editor) < 1462410648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think it needs to. those sandboxes aren't really built to be completely deterministic, so we can use some side-channel to store state. < 1462410650 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to use ee to learn < 1462410659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ew. < 1462410678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Correct < 1462410690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon________________________________________! < 1462410708 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Each execution is a fresh boot of UML, and the only thing bound read-write from outside is the repository directory. < 1462410728 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but I said side-channels. non-deterministic stuff. < 1462410746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not actualy fs directories < 1462410761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: btw you can always replace mk with echo '...' >filename , although you might need to escape 's inside < 1462410764 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll believe that once I see it. < 1462410820 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might not be a practically usable one of course < 1462410977 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having an easy-to-use stateful editor would also be a loss in the sense that editing files would be less of a puzzle game every time. < 1462411070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1462411071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed -i "$1" "$(lastfiles)" < 1462411088 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls fetch < 1462411089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access fetch: No such file or directory < 1462411094 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/fetch < 1462411095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/fetch: No such file or directory < 1462411100 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat fetch < 1462411101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: fetch: No such file or directory < 1462411104 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462411128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: fetch is a builtin of HackEgo that's outside the sandbox precisely so it can access the web freely < 1462411135 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462411152 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, it's a win-win because if I don't find such a state, then I can just say termbot is superior < 1462411161 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for it has persistent state) < 1462411170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*sed* < 1462411171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedlast < 1462411172 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it's not version controlled) < 1462411240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not sound superior hth < 1462411259 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be a good way to put a file (like ciol intepreter src) onto freebsd? < 1462411278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: normally i'd suggest curl or wget but i don't know if those work inside your VM. < 1462411287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1462411291 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is set up ith connection < 1462411294 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, first check if you can install from ports < 1462411327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ciol is his own esolang < 1462411357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never used a VM so should shut up at this point < 1462411402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's probably a standard way to transfer files between inside and outside < 1462411419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we even know what kind of vm it is? < 1462411427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1462411466 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's never "a standard" < 1462411495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well standard for the VM < 1462411497 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably multiple standard ways < 1462411498 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its virtualbox < 1462411539 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: well, if it already has a network connection to the outside, then you can probably transfer the file through that < 1462411539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( wednesday, so two extra mezzacotta comics ) < 1462411542 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the heck is a comonoid? Is it... something where... nah, I'm stumped. < 1462411559 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonoid < 1462411560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's like a monoid but with the arrows reversed hth < 1462411560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comonoid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462411569 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, we don't have an entry on this one? < 1462411575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1462411589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: this time shachaf speaks truth < 1462411590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonad < 1462411592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category. < 1462411612 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a comonoid in a category a monoid in the opposite category? < 1462411618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1462411649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they're uninteresting in haskell because _every_ type is a comonoid with the operations \x -> () and \x -> (x,x) (iirc) < 1462411679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: For (,)-comonoids, yes. < 1462411690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also talk about comonoids with Either, I guess. < 1462411700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those interesting? < 1462411703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1462411716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have counit : M -> Void and comult : M -> Either M M < 1462411718 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat does pkg mean when 'Error fetching : no package record? < 1462411726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So only Void is an instance. < 1462411756 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also talk about monoids with Either -- unit : Void -> A and mult : Either A A -> A -- and those are also uninteresting. < 1462411768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um, just because there's one definition that works, there might also be more interesting instances you can define. < 1462411775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There aren't. < 1462411798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, if you're talking about monoids in the category of endofunctors you get all sorts of interesting options. < 1462411812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get Applicative, Alternative, and Monad. < 1462411820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternative too? < 1462411831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can get it two different ways. < 1462411851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The simpler one is with (:*:). < 1462411874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unit : Proxy ~> F; mult : (F :*: F) ~> F < 1462411876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a category of monoid concepts in the category of endofunctors, and does it have initial and final elements < 1462411890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a monoid concept < 1462411909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those options you mention < 1462411921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so s/concept/option/ < 1462411940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the "options" here are choices of tensor products for the category of endofunctors, I guess. < 1462411952 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does pkg mean when 'Error fetching : no package record'? < 1462411961 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to have it install itself < 1462411968 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt come preinstalled < 1462411979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what a morphism from one choice of tensor product to another is? < 1462412016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a tensor product is a bifunctor : CxC -> C < 1462412020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the category is defined in the natural way hth < 1462412023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can talk about natural transformations between them. < 1462412045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so what's the answer twh < 1462412071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can we have a graph of the rise of hth along with its friends twh tdh tdnh etc. twh < 1462412103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you'd imagine the Applicative => Monad relationship to give an arrow somewhere? < 1462412124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1462412141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the category is probably more complicated because you have the identity and the isomorphisms. < 1462412198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f :: Expr -> Expr < 1462412199 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expr> < 1462412211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no relation) < 1462412290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've just been thinking about the awkward fact that Expr stuff needs too much type annotation) < 1462412339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f (g x) :: Expr < 1462412341 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show t0) arising from a use of ‘f’ < 1462412341 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘t0’ is ambiguous < 1462412341 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1462412369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \g -> f (g x) :: Expr < 1462412370 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show t => (Expr -> t) -> Expr < 1462412414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm lambdabot doesn't do ExtendedDefaulting? < 1462412453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t f (g x) :: Expr < 1462412454 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show t0) arising from a use of ‘f’ < 1462412454 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘t0’ is ambiguous < 1462412454 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1462412461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t f (g x) < 1462412462 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Show t0) arising from a use of ‘f’ < 1462412462 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (FromExpr t) < 1462412462 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: FromExpr t => t < 1462412672 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I got to thinking today—using pretty much only just existing software, how could you make a Linux distribution which contains the smallest possible number of non-.NET components? < 1462412714 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say that in order to be considered a "Linux distribution", it has to be capable of compiling itself, and it also has to be minimally usable. < 1462412756 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-194-61.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462412756 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By definition, the distro will have to include Linux. If I'm not mistaken, GCC is also mandatory, because nothing besides GCC can compile Linux. < 1462412778 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without binutils, you're in a pretty bad spot. < 1462412783 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-194-61.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462412791 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think technically you could add Busybox and call it done. < 1462412813 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not an answer that's in the spirit of the question. < 1462412828 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, add in Mono as well. < 1462412846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask int-e Would anything important go wrong if you added Expr to the end of lambdabot's default list? (i can think of one thing: expressions confusing Integrals and Fractionals might inexplicably start giving Exprs instead of errors.) < 1462412846 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462412847 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you also need a libc besides the busybox < 1462412866 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, libc is pretty important. < 1462412872 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: as well as a make, a couple of libraries for gcc, and some shell utilities to make the kernel build work < 1462412890 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you really need make at all? < 1462412941 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: for compiling the kernel, sure, it's driven by makefiles < 1462412950 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1462412962 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So either use make, or replace all the makefiles with something else. < 1462412964 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and you need libc headers too, to be able to compiler gcc < 1462412981 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use fsharpi as a shell. < 1462412992 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make a pretty crappy standard Linux shell. < 1462413004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what you could do is to not include gcc directly, but instead include a smaller compiler and use that to compile a gcc < 1462413007 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd is causing problems, wont let me run files < 1462413037 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although with recent gcc versions that's pretty difficult because you actually need a c++ compiler, and there's not many working ones other than gcc and clang < 1462413047 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any help? < 1462413054 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to run rc but i cant < 1462413059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: um, be more specific please < 1462413068 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :permission denied < 1462413081 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like you might need to chmod +x the file you're trying to run. < 1462413086 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you need a _real_ shell and a couple of utils to run those makefiles < 1462413103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462413120 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the minimal self-compiling Linux distro actually includes, like, several components. < 1462413169 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sure. and in a real distro, you'd also need an init and a modutils, though if you ONLY want to self-compile, not do anything else, you can probably omit them < 1462413194 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely init could be written in .NET. < 1462413209 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, like, < 1462413219 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln -s fsharpi /bin/init < 1462413221 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ugh... no. and traditional init is a small program, so you don't have to. < 1462413238 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier to just have an init < 1462413265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: wait wat < 1462413267 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462413275 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the biggest problem isn't even gcc < 1462413287 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: in "self-compiling", do you mean also compiling libc? < 1462413298 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1462413304 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because compiling libc is pretty much impossible (this is a known bug or known feature, depending on who you ask) < 1462413324 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't really have a completely self-compiling linux distro with gnu libc at all < 1462413337 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need to use an alternate libc, and that makes a lot of things harder < 1462413347 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc is nearly impossible to compile? < 1462413366 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes, or it was last I checked, some years ago. there's even a bug ticket about it which says so. < 1462413391 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: have you ever compiled one? I did, but that was a decade ago, so I know it's *changed* to become impossible to compile at some point. < 1462413399 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not just that I'm stupid and that's why I can't compile it. < 1462413403 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It grew and became worse. < 1462413404 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have. < 1462413446 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like 15 years ago actually. How time flies. < 1462413643 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But failing to build libc was also a long time ago, so eventually I should try building libc again, because it's annoying that I can't. I know libc has changed a lot since I failed to build it. < 1462413674 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get rc.conf at all, and i cant enable networking *sigh* < 1462413689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably try to build it around the time I try contact lenses the third time, for the situation is somewhat analogous, with me, contact lenses, and libc all changing a lot during the yeras. < 1462414051 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> last (takeWhile (> 0)) (iterate (/ 2) 1) < 1462414052 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘[[Double] -> t]’ < 1462414052 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[Integer] -> [Integer]’ < 1462414052 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: ‘takeWhile’ is applied to too few arguments < 1462414067 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> last (takeWhile (> 0) (iterate (/ 2) 1)) < 1462414069 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.0e-324 < 1462414466 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, im going to have to go to my ip configuration to make address space for freebsd < 1462415082 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypdlasrcjgbgugjg QUIT : < 1462415368 0 :moon___!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462415514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'foo\nbar\rPRIVMSG #esoteric :hi\r\n' #just double checking fizzie's claim < 1462415536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1462415580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it fails because it doesn't output \r\n, only \r < 1462415854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'foo\nbar\rQUIT' < 1462415857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1462416066 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5.0e-324 < 1462416068 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.0e-324 < 1462416070 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5.0e-324 / 2 < 1462416072 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1462416100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 324 * logBase 2 10 < 1462416102 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1076.3047027435055 < 1462416132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length (takeWhile (> 0) (iterate (/ 2) 1)) < 1462416133 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1075 < 1462416151 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> subtract 1 . last . takeWhile (> 1) . map (+1) . iterate (/ 2) $ 1 < 1462416152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.220446049250313e-16 < 1462416189 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1 + 2.220446049250313e-16, 1 + 2.220446049250313e-16 / 2, 1 + 2.220446049250313e-16 / 3, 1 + 2 * 2.220446049250313e-16 / 3) < 1462416191 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1.0000000000000002,1.0,1.0,1.0000000000000002) < 1462416213 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What rounding rule is this thing using? < 1462416220 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ties go towards zero? < 1462416626 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462416632 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my tablet now < 1462416643 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i discovered termux < 1462416864 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2 * 5.0e-324) * 1.5 < 1462416866 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.5e-323 < 1462416885 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, that's the wrong one. < 1462416888 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2 * 5.0e-324) * 0.75 < 1462416890 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0e-323 < 1462416930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: well calculations are IEEE, not sure about output. < 1462416942 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the rounding rule can't be "ties go towards zero", then. < 1462416990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :towards even perhaps? < 1462416995 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, I propose that 2.220446049250313e-16 be called a "grain" and that 5.0e-324 be called a "speck". < 1462417006 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would probably make sense. < 1462417032 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1.0 - 1, 1.0000000000000001 - 1, 1.0000000000000002 - 1, 1.0000000000000003 - 1, 1.0000000000000004 - 1] < 1462417033 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,0.0,2.220446049250313e-16,2.220446049250313e-16,4.440892098500626e-16] < 1462417665 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, about those groups with unsolvable word problems (i.e. undecidable equality). < 1462417682 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is the group of (Collins 1986): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_for_groups#Examples < 1462417696 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is somewhat complicated. < 1462418186 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we probably don't have a better one. < 1462418195 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, do I smell an esolang here? < 1462418205 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi tswett < 1462418327 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey there. < 1462418429 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I do smell an esolang here. < 1462418452 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take Collins' group there. Just come up with some notation for concisely expressing elements of the group, and that's the language itself. < 1462418465 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The semantics: you "run" a program by trying to reduce it to the identity word. < 1462418705 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute, that group of Collins is pretty much just a hacked-up version of a semigroup by Céjtin. < 1462418762 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This variant of said semigroup is so simple that I can easily give an entire presentation for the whole thing in one IRC message: < 1462418811 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac = ca; ad = da; bc = cb; bd = db; ce = eca; de = edb; cca = ccae < 1462419057 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462419072 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.com/raw/BGTV9E93 < 1462419075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-05 02:31:12 URL:http://pastebin.com/raw/BGTV9E93 [3761] -> "BGTV9E93" [1] < 1462419083 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone compile that as bin/ciol < 1462419136 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not too good with gcc, i leave that to my ide :p < 1462419543 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462419602 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hi < 1462419609 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rhello; < 1462419624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1462419657 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462419696 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1462419701 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rhello; < 1462419707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1462419719 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#slowego < 1462419729 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462419761 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone alive in here? < 1462419798 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett? < 1462419802 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1462419827 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, I'm here. < 1462419873 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462419886 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here, but I'm not alive. < 1462419931 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lll < 1462419934 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462419945 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really adore termux < 1462419962 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :power =ful linux/unix like interface on your android' < 1462419963 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462420041 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do i tell a linux os to allow a file to be executed without chmod? < 1462420057 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in such a way i dont have to repeated that trick every time < 1462420085 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett and pikhq ^ < 1462420088 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't, really. If you want a file to be executable you have to use chmod on it first. < 1462420104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -x c -o bin/ciol BGTV9E93 # oh well < 1462420117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462420144 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, most things that generate executables will set things as executable for you. < 1462420163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well there _is_ a way. it might not be a good idea... < 1462420163 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use NTFS as your root filesystem, won't that effectively make everything +x? (Note: this is probably a very bad idea.) < 1462420179 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS is not usable as a root filesystem. < 1462420187 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1462420191 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not on Linux with current NTFS implementations. < 1462420218 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I understand it, in principle you could implement a Unix system with NTFS as the root FS, but you couldn't use ntfs-3g for it. < 1462420240 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it does little tricks like making everything +x. < 1462420249 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok < 1462420255 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sticking with fa < 1462420260 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fs < 1462420270 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default one < 1462420323 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#rootfs < 1462420323 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/mk < 1462420327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/mk < 1462420327 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS probably doesn't let you make a filename containing nearly arbitrary bytes. < 1462420334 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462420336 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does NTFS let you have a backslash in the name of a file? < 1462420367 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shockingly, it does. < 1462420373 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Win32 that doesn't. < 1462420387 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462420410 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :çlosed chatoon accident < 1462420421 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in fact surprised by this. < 1462420440 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a forward slash? < 1462420460 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does. < 1462420495 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/echo-p < 1462420497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/echo-p < 1462420500 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it doesn't matter for purposes of implementing POSIX. POSIX doesn't require you to be able to store arbitrary bytes in a filename. < 1462420536 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap03.html#tag_03_278 Just [A-Za-z0-9._-]* < 1462420629 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/echo-p:p < 1462420631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/echo-p%3Ap < 1462420637 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay i ported mk to turmux < 1462420675 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something familiar and good for usage inside shellscript < 1462420699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__-: note that mk in shell will behave like `` mk does in HackEgo, not like `mk < 1462420710 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1462420711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a little more awkward to use < 1462420732 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont '' work? < 1462420745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you don't need 's inside it... < 1462420752 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1462420771 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true:p < 1462420776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__-: you probably want mkx too, then < 1462420777 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So its worthwhile :p < 1462420790 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/mk < 1462420792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/mk < 1462420792 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/mkx < 1462420794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/mkx < 1462420828 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently filenames in Windows can't end with a dot or space. < 1462420833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: your utilities are spreading! < 1462420878 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1462420880 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ' < 1462420882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462420948 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackegos utilities are amazing :P < 1462421130 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462421172 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx mkcmd//'key=$@ && echo "$key" && chmod+x "$key"' < 1462421177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkcmd < 1462421181 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for pastes < 1462421203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__-: hm? < 1462421212 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``mv mkcmd bin/mkcmd < 1462421215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `mv: not found < 1462421226 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv mkcmd bin/mkcmd < 1462421230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462421253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__-: that's buggy, also how is it better than `` chmod +x < 1462421257 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkcmd Would be good for external files' < 1462421264 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter < 1462421274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still buggy. < 1462421282 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462421293 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete it if you want < 1462421349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/mkcmd//chmod +x "$1" && echo "$1" < 1462421352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/mkcmd < 1462421358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's better < 1462421405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to make a variable just to refer to an argument, also there were two errors, and i think putting the echo last gives better error messages < 1462421411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkcmd fnord < 1462421413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `fnord': No such file or directory < 1462421425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by not also doing the echo) < 1462421772 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who made fueue? < 1462421849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented it < 1462421881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :several people made implementations. < 1462421901 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1462422351 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725 Adam Yedidia has explicitly constructed a Turing machine with 7918 states whose halting is independent of ZFC set theory. < 1462422676 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Moon! < 1462422690 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1462422698 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working with termux < 1462422701 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the sec < 1462422709 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, neat < 1462422785 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :porting mk over to it made things easier for me < 1462422840 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very nice! < 1462423307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: already linked, currently reading < 1462423775 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462423786 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1462423798 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos alive? < 1462423948 0 :Moon__-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462423968 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1462424370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS < 1462424455 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mop < 1462424503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462424525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon-: Why not make a language with syntax? < 1462424531 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hp, hi! < 1462424543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi"? < 1462424543 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe later < 1462424619 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462424639 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462424768 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462425033 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462425202 0 :u0_a201!~u0_a201@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462425208 0 :u0_a201!~u0_a201@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462425225 0 :u0_a201!~u0_a201@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying a new cliemt\ < 1462425247 0 :u0_a201!?@? NICK :moon___ < 1462425252 0 :moon___!~u0_a201@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1462425271 0 :moon___!~u0_a201@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive? < 1462425317 0 :moon___!~u0_a201@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462425334 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462425338 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone alive? < 1462425370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only you hth < 1462425463 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462425502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is going to rise from the dead p. soon, though < 1462425578 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf, what would be a safe command identifier for a new bot? < 1462425600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you asking me < 1462425655 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idl < 1462425664 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wana know < 1462425677 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~check < 1462425709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1462425709 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1462425718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically ~ is taken < 1462425740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1462425741 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 050350Z 09004KT CAVOK 05/M00 Q1021 RMK WIND 670FT 14008KT < 1462425741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :] hm < 1462425744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1462425745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 050353Z 25009KT 10SM FEW019 FEW100 BKN180 16/10 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP118 T01560100 < 1462425764 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :& then? < 1462425771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :&hm < 1462425781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :& 3 < 1462425789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's not in use < 1462425806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it might be in danger of being used by humans < 1462425808 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462425846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :& what if it is < 1462425870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( if you don't think triggering bots accidentally is annoying, go ahead ) < 1462425871 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:60: error: expected: "#", < 1462425871 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1462425871 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1462425871 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1462425871 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1462425907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, bots that respond with more than one line of output like that are annoying in themselves < 1462425916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1462425946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: this means you hth < 1462425987 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1462426015 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: At least it stopped itself at 5. < 1462426036 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!whoami < 1462426046 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :24601, who else? < 1462426055 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :llol < 1462426058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon-: EgoBot isn't present at the moment. < 1462426086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm gregor isn't even online now < 1462426100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing too < 1462426104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently oerjan has a thing about presents < 1462426163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. also my priority queue more resembles a stack. < 1462426185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm not objecting to the timing < 1462426199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying that you were unhappy at one time < 1462426211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe obligated to act unhappy, it's not clear < 1462426223 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's never clear < 1462426227 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462426229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to a talk by wadler tomorrow < 1462426240 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&whoami < 1462426240 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon- is 4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 < 1462426250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scriptobot: and who are you? < 1462426257 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! :p < 1462426257 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine < 1462426257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: make sure to criticize his lexical comment syntax < 1462426272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon-: the joke was that i started my sentence with "and" hth < 1462426320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for want of a nail, the joke was lost < 1462426432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for want of a nale, the sabine was lost < 1462426446 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&ping < 1462426458 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462426472 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462426474 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&ping < 1462426486 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462426513 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1462426536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how often do they hold the elections for king of norway < 1462426541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should run next time < 1462426559 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&ping < 1462426571 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&whoami < 1462426572 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon- is 4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 < 1462426577 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462426592 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462426615 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462426618 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&ping < 1462426629 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1462427829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not sure if there's ever been one hth < 1462427846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1462427851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the current one doing in the polls < 1462427859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't think so. the current king is like ridiculously hard-working. < 1462427873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, pretty good. < 1462427877 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a good contrast < 1462427887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't be like him if you want to defeat him < 1462427935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462427967 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually.. < 1462427989 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be a good way to set up a shell bot? < 1462427994 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like hackego < 1462428083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :carefully hth < 1462428106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even Gregor's bots have security flaws. < 1462428120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although mostly because he's never around to fix them. < 1462428134 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gregor being HackEgo's writer) < 1462429932 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462430231 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462430434 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shooijzbpexsdzoa JOIN :#esoteric < 1462430474 0 :Moon-!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462430802 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462431187 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462431693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462431758 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462431935 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462431951 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462432265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION once shot a man in reno, for all wondering < 1462432273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shootamaninreno < 1462432290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo? < 1462432293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shootamaninreno: not found < 1462433184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1] < 1462433190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. < 1462433199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion < 1462433201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion is the generator including, but not limited to, hppavilion[1], hppavilion[2], and hppavilion[42]. hppavilion is of length 37-42i-28j+4k-28ij+38ik+62jk+20ijk < 1462433219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462434565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, what's-her-name's ring of water breathing protects against the cold < 1462434572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so now she's going to freeze to death or something? < 1462434618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i thought of that. hopefully they can switch quickly enough. < 1462434658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess she could also take the cloak < 1462434802 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462434920 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1462435644 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462435893 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462437614 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462438268 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shooijzbpexsdzoa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462439625 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:2d4b:e420:6da4:109b JOIN :#esoteric < 1462440094 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I honestly thought both of thems were dudes for this whole time. < 1462440126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, fizzolist? < 1462440143 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, except I use the feed. < 1462440161 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use the feed how come you never notify the rest of us < 1462440170 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've done it twice. < 1462440222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, three (3) times, for 956, 958 and 960. < 1462440262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i three (4) times < 1462440284 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually read these things in the train, and it's inconvenient to come here and `olist, and by the time I'm wherever I'm going, I've already forgotten. < 1462440323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Train IRC is inconvenient? < 1462440327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it seems that sorear has been programming a more direct logic search in that Laconic language < 1462440335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: ^ < 1462440345 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, sorear < 1462440379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's posting comments about it on aaronson's blog < 1462440385 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, so we might get even smaller state counts :D < 1462440409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why he scrapped IRC. If he did. < 1462440440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i haven't seen them give a count of the states yet. (his version used nullary functions which aren't supported by the Laconic -> TM compiler) < 1462440461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh he has? < 1462440475 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wouldn't know since he scrapped #haskell >:/ < 1462440489 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*did < 1462440551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that nick, at least. < 1462440558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and also probably has lots of bugs < 1462440613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah he mentioned some bugs. i'm only on comment #57. < 1462440623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that thread grew fast) < 1462440994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next comment mentions unlambda and brainfuck < 1462442251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If this indeed works, then Adam predicts that it will indeed lead to a TM with fewer states than what you get from Friedman’s statement — he says your program is about as complicated as his program for the Riemann hypothesis, which suggests that we might get under 6000 states." < 1462442279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: that looks good < 1462442303 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1462442818 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1462442828 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one problem with these sorts of programs is that they're hard to debug < 1462442864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to add lots of debug code (in the program definitely, possibly also into the compiler too) to check that the program behaves like you want < 1462447543 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462448652 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-194-61.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462449027 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462449027 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 14h 19m 11s ago: F24DBA5FB0A30E26E83B2AC5B9E29E1B161E5C1FA7425E73043362938B9824chaf <-- beat THAT! < 1462449097 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] you deserve a mapole thwack for that outrageous pun hth < 1462449097 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462449111 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] (pretty creative, though) < 1462449111 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462449281 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too long for sha1, too short for sha256... < 1462449385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and google hasn't seen that hex number either < 1462449515 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. maybe it's SHA-224? < 1462449618 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask hppavilion[1] which was the actual hash you hashachafed shachaf with? < 1462449618 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462450158 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462450472 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462450633 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it would have to be sha-248 < 1462450834 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:aca:214c:fa90:af83:8ed6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462450848 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: JOKER CHICKEN < 1462451110 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was alleged to be SHA-256. < 1462451118 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a byte got lost. < 1462451142 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's behind the chaf. < 1462451519 0 :nrdhm!~nrdhm@188.162.245.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462451633 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oltzzcwwgssfetjk JOIN :#esoteric < 1462451706 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or inside... it's 3/4 hexadecimal after all < 1462451952 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462452651 0 :nrdhm!~nrdhm@188.162.245.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462454063 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462454395 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:aca:214c:fa90:af83:8ed6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462454420 0 :Moon__!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462454454 0 :scriptobot!~ircbot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462454645 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:505:485a:9fa9:527a:82b2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462454925 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462455196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Occular 5* 10New user account < 1462456052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46925 5* 03Occular 5* (+926) 10Created page with "[[Nullary]] is a [[No-code]] esolang created by [[occular]]. == History == The language was conceived in May 2016, as a possible answer to the question "What would be next s..." < 1462456076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46926&oldid=46925 5* 03Occular 5* (+0) 10 < 1462456112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46927&oldid=46926 5* 03Occular 5* (+4) 10 < 1462456127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46928&oldid=46927 5* 03Occular 5* (+8) 10 < 1462456173 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46929&oldid=46928 5* 03Occular 5* (-24) 10 < 1462456216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07No-code esolang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46930 5* 03Occular 5* (+113) 10Created page with "A no-code esolang either ignores or actively refuses any sort of input to the language interpreter or executable." < 1462456240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07No-code esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46931&oldid=46930 5* 03Occular 5* (+5) 10 < 1462456378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46932&oldid=46832 5* 03Occular 5* (+111) 10 < 1462456523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46933&oldid=46932 5* 03Occular 5* (+82) 10 < 1462456552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hipster14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46934 5* 03Occular 5* (+129) 10Created page with "== Description == What, you don't already know about the definition of Hipster? Get out of here. You're a joke. Get off my lawn." < 1462456578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hipster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46935&oldid=46934 5* 03Occular 5* (+39) 10 < 1462456648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hipster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46936&oldid=46935 5* 03Occular 5* (-8) 10 < 1462456756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hipster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46937&oldid=46936 5* 03Occular 5* (+4) 10 < 1462456805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hipster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46938&oldid=46937 5* 03Occular 5* (+42) 10 < 1462456896 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46939&oldid=46929 5* 03Occular 5* (+27) 10 < 1462456921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46940&oldid=46939 5* 03Occular 5* (+1) 10 < 1462456971 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462457067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46941&oldid=46940 5* 03Occular 5* (+217) 10 < 1462457192 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION requests an invitation to use IBM's quantum computer < 1462457201 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably should have name-dropped IQC, actually < 1462458126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46942&oldid=46933 5* 03Occular 5* (+106) 10 < 1462458443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shatner14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46943 5* 03Occular 5* (+1455) 10Created page with "Shatner is an [[esolang]] created by [[occular]]. == History == The language was conceived in May 2016, as a possible answer to the question "How could I embody the spirit o..." < 1462458925 0 :nrdhm!~nrdhm@188.162.245.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462459098 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462459105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shatner14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46944&oldid=46943 5* 03Occular 5* (+36) 10 < 1462459125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shatner14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46945&oldid=46944 5* 03Occular 5* (+1) 10 < 1462459163 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new record for the smallest program whose halting problem is provably undecidable under ZFC (it's a Turing machine with 7918 states and two symbols, that starts from a blank tape) < 1462459179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shatner14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46946&oldid=46945 5* 03Occular 5* (+49) 10 < 1462459393 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725) < 1462459466 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462459619 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462459713 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462460153 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1 6 21 107 < 1462460155 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Busy Beaver problem: a(n) = maximal number of steps that an n-state Turing m... < 1462460184 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is that the fifth element isn't known; all we have is a lower bound, which is 47176870 < 1462460185 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1462460274 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, the sequence appears to be unique in OEIS despite being only four elements long < 1462460448 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Quit: Hugs~ <3 < 1462460532 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1462460665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Occular14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46947 5* 03Occular 5* (+84) 10Created page with "Occular designed the following languages: * [[Nullary]] * [[Shatner]] * [[Hipster]]" < 1462460679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Occular14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46948&oldid=46947 5* 03Occular 5* (-2) 10 < 1462461531 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462462002 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, ais < 1462462040 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and yes, we were talking about that new Busy Beaver article on the channel. I think you're the third who brought it up independently. < 1462462054 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guessed you'd be interested < 1462462056 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is clearly ontopic < 1462462068 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, I already added one of the languages used to the wiki < 1462462070 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it mentions brainfuck and lambda independently, also me < 1462462080 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(indirectly) < 1462462090 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comments have sort-of collapsed into Turing Machine golf < 1462462091 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I approve of < 1462462138 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but I'm a bit afraid they'll all just write untested code and not bother to properly test that it works. testing in this case isn't easy, it needs lots of extra debug code in the source code, and possibly some debug stuff in the compiler or interpreter. < 1462462158 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1462462171 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least with a goldbach conjecture counterexample search, which most of the golfing is focusing on < 1462462176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's relatively easy to check whether it's working by hand < 1462463754 0 :nrdhm!~nrdhm@188.162.245.16 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1462463780 0 :nrdhm!~nrdhm@188.162.245.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462464669 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oltzzcwwgssfetjk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462464915 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462465170 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462465359 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462465432 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462465494 0 :nrdhm!~nrdhm@188.162.245.16 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462465506 0 :atriq!?@? NICK :Taneb < 1462466198 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a short break, I am back on IRC < 1462466262 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462466311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shatner14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46949&oldid=46946 5* 03Occular 5* (+5) 10 < 1462466331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Occular14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46950&oldid=46948 5* 03Occular 5* (-82) 10Blanked the page < 1462466346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Occular14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46951 5* 03Occular 5* (+82) 10Created page with "AlexH designed the following languages: * [[Nullary]] * [[Shatner]] * [[Hipster]]" < 1462466355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46952&oldid=46941 5* 03Occular 5* (+5) 10 < 1462466422 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462469417 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462469433 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462469595 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhjxvwmgnrkwgtre JOIN :#esoteric < 1462469694 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462470309 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462470421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462471249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462471316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462471675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Huh. cpressy favourited the repo with that language (laconic, iirc) in it < 1462472132 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462472692 0 :jefrite!~jefrite@li394-234.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462472899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462473106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462473324 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462473361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462473919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462474252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462474336 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is c++ string missing search and replace? < 1462474361 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: because it's hard to implement efficiently < 1462474389 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C and C++ tend to avoid making expensive operations easy to use, so as to prevent people using them by mistake < 1462474437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462474504 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thats partially why my company has its own string and array classes < 1462474586 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor standard libraries hinder interoperability by encouraging nih < 1462474727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have to write conversions between n different string classes < 1462474802 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why can't you write a search and replace /function/ that operates on std::strings? < 1462474808 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than needing it to be a message? < 1462474811 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a method < 1462474851 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462475007 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure but i think the string class we have is also unicode aware and threadsafe... < 1462475016 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode aware makes sense < 1462475034 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :threadsafe may or may not make sense depending on what you're doing, general-purpose threadsafety comes at quite a large performance cost < 1462475344 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if the fact we compile everythong as c++ 98 has anything to do with it < 1462475750 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1462475817 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462475822 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462475847 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1462475925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lud < 1462475925 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 27m 7s ago: you deserve a mapole thwack for that outrageous pun hth < 1462475925 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 26m 53s ago: (pretty creative, though) < 1462475925 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 7h 18m 27s ago: which was the actual hash you hashachafed shachaf with? < 1462475992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Just break it if you want to know < 1462475992 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462476356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462476382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An image-based language where lossy compression doesn't completely ruin the program < 1462476661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462476829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462476931 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462477429 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462477571 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz allow me a bit of promotion - http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=576&p=30646#p30646 < 1462478129 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462478707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462479018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462479794 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you want to scrutinize fowltalk? Tell me about how feather is way better etc https://bitbucket.org/fowlmouth/idk < 1462479846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any docs? < 1462479857 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :None < 1462479858 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't relaly figure out what's going on from code if it's spread over that many files < 1462479926 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VM is in interp.hpp < 1462480181 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462480600 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462480764 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462480953 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462481816 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notfowl: I still can't figure out what's going on, but it at least doesn't look anything like Feather < 1462481831 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, that project isn't in a state that you can really show to other people yet < 1462481939 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written any docs and comments are equally sparse yes < 1462482933 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462483621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making a language with self-modifying syntax... < 1462483662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For golfing purposes < 1462483667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advanced Golfing < 1462483705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the things that disappoints me in code golf is that all challenges are simple; I'd like to see codegolf with a challenge for a BIG thing, the kind of program that can't be in <100 characters in any modern languages < 1462483727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then we'd have people making GolfScript extensions with GUI and such < 1462483731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'd be happy < 1462483792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462483925 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462484086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462484125 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done HTTP as a one-liner in bash, so... :) < 1462484217 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462484350 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462485209 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how long wat the line though < 1462485264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hantom_Hoover < 1462485310 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :haf < 1462485322 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think about 100 bytes; I'd have to find it to be sure though. < 1462485768 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462486437 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462486441 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1462487198 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 3035583 < 1462487198 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1462487207 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pity < 1462487228 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of these Internet standards are qutie simple < 1462487231 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi moon_ btw) < 1462487249 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so HTTP as a bash oneliner is reasonable, it'd basically just be a case of parsing the URL and fitting it into a minimal request template, wouldn't it? < 1462487268 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to handle things like redirects correctly (which would be needed to be spec-compliant) would probably make it somewhat longer though < 1462487308 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462487940 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a day < 1462488961 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :vehk < 1462488964 0 :vehk!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1462489168 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462489347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462489357 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1462489592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next version of neoletters will include non breaking snake characters < 1462489991 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462490138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the most complicated, bloated machine we could make < 1462490145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Good, I asked you if you were going to do that < 1462490160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That we can still get away with calling a "Calculator" < 1462490173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in opposition to a "computer") < 1462490399 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462490405 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it online < 1462490421 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help < 1462490422 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. < 1462490435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Everybody can make their IRC bots work but me xD < 1462490440 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill set it up in the backround < 1462490441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$hi < 1462490441 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Error: "hi" is not a valid command. < 1462490442 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462490445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$test < 1462490445 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Error: "test" is not a valid command. < 1462490447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO FAST < 1462490449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO HAPPY < 1462490452 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462490453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$kill < 1462490454 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Error: "kill" is not a valid command. < 1462490457 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462490457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$hi < 1462490457 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Error: "hi" is not a valid command. < 1462490463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$crush < 1462490463 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Error: "crush" is not a valid command. < 1462490464 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$commands < 1462490465 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "commands" is not a valid command. < 1462490465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$kill < 1462490467 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. < 1462490467 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$command < 1462490468 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhjxvwmgnrkwgtre QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462490469 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "command" is not a valid command. < 1462490470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$destroy < 1462490478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462490479 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462490481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: srsly. < 1462490496 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt write the whole thing :P < 1462490502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Did you make idolbot, or is it something from GitH- Ah, OK < 1462490505 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never added that one < 1462490549 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its github, i wrote in some code to patch some problems < 1462490556 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too lazy to make one myself < 1462490560 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working on it still < 1462490664 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$unignore < 1462490665 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "unignore" is not a valid command. < 1462490671 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462490676 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill edit out the ignore thing < 1462490691 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$exit < 1462490691 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "exit" is not a valid command. < 1462490695 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$end < 1462490696 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "end" is not a valid command. < 1462490704 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Ctrl-C at console. < 1462490992 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :FireFal < 1462491072 0 :FireFal!?@? NICK :ybden < 1462491186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift, Control, Alt, Super, Mega, Ultima, Uber, Meta, Escape, AltGr, F[1-9a-fA-F], Fn, Hm... < 1462491202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine a computer where the keyboard literally translated to ASM instructions at runtime... < 1462491233 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462491252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Not lol < 1462491257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Actual serious business < 1462491262 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to know what sort of keyboard has an Ultima modifier < 1462491268 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], https://github.com/yrp604/rappel < 1462491327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The Doctor Keyboard? < 1462491331 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hppa, im basically using this bot as a framework to build a good one off of < 1462491382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Not quite < 1462491403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: In this, key (combinations) would literally map directly to short ASM macro blocks < 1462491419 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:2d4b:e420:6da4:109b QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462491453 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], explain how you think this would work < 1462491458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ctrl, alt, fn, shift, and the arrow keys map to a second byte that modifies the first byte) < 1462491481 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(starting with why you think assembly is ever executed by anything) < 1462491496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well obviously, it wouldn't be executing assembly < 1462491500 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first off, brainfuck interpreter < 1462491502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But I'm talking from the programmer POV < 1462491533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, the OS, on boot, generates a table in RAM that holds pointers to short executables < 1462491535 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are 'short ASM macro blocks' < 1462491544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1462491549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah, that wasn't the best phrasing < 1462491560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "macro" as in keyboard macro, I guess < 1462491567 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just having alt/meta toggle bit 7, ctrl toggle bit 6, shift toggle bit 5 < 1462491568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "block" as in "block of code" < 1462491584 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this approach because it is temptingly similar to the way ASCII actually works, yet different enough to throw you if you try to use it in practice < 1462491589 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a system where code is executed in response to user input? < 1462491590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because there are more than 64 keys, IIRC? < 1462491595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...yes? < 1462491603 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: right, there are some duplicates if you use that system < 1462491604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You hit a key and it directly executes a program < 1462491614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462491614 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however you will also need keys for triggering inputs and the like < 1462491617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*interrupts < 1462491623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: (or key combination, in theory) < 1462491632 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lik ais523 is probably trying to explain, you can't actually do that < 1462491633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: what! < 1462491635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1462491638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why not? < 1462491656 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need pretty sophisticated code to actually read from the keyboard < 1462491662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, I know < 1462491671 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you're being really eso < 1462491681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you have a CPU that can handle dc on the clock line < 1462491683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I know firsthand how much of a PITA keyboard input is < 1462491686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462491686 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most modern ones can't but there are ones that can) < 1462491697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: This is specifically for an esoteric processor or emulator < 1462491703 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you take the keyboard controller input, and intentionally misconnect it to the clock line rather than the interrupt controller < 1462491711 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well you could do the SNES code injection thing where you jump into a DMA input buffer < 1462491720 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that was my first thought < 1462491723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the best part is that it's a state machine; hitting "a" might update the jump table < 1462491724 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but manual clocking is funnier < 1462491726 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but obviously that doesn't work on any system that doesn't use DMA input buffers < 1462491748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, more accurately, change the pointer to the jump table) < 1462491767 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it seems like it'd be very easy to just implement a non-eso system on top of this < 1462491772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes < 1462491781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But it'd also be easy to implement an eso system on top of it < 1462491791 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you might want to look at skullcode < 1462491808 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :unwinding the way it does I/O has been, uh, interesting < 1462491830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't get it < 1462491841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, that's the point < 1462491857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what skullcode actually is < 1462491882 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462491884 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apparnetly underclocking is a thing < 1462491888 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like overclocking is < 1462491891 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went and looked it up < 1462491894 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei < 1462491900 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you all americanos < 1462491909 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos, no < 1462491919 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :versteht ihr deutsch? < 1462491924 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we do mostly speak english < 1462491945 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, mostly used for badly-written old software that's tied to the clock speed, right? < 1462491947 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seid ihr europäer? < 1462491949 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how many guesses it would take to guess which country Phantom_Hoover is from, with the knowledge that English is a native language for him < 1462491970 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a trivial binary search obv. < 1462491971 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is a simple language < 1462491978 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: apparently it's mostly used for extending laptop battery life, and to reduce heat dissipation < 1462492001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What about me? I'm told that English is the first language I spoke. < 1462492025 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well your name's a pretty big clue < 1462492028 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seid ihr alles esoteriker? < 1462492065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so's yours hth < 1462492094 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in how many countries is "hoover" the standard name for a vacuum cleaner? < 1462492105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462492109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard it used in this country. < 1462492117 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in USA < 1462492127 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's me pinned down < 1462492128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one I'm talking about. Never heard it. < 1462492145 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in europe the synoym of vacuum cleaner is dyson < 1462492157 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462492160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in europe everyone calls a dyson a vacuum < 1462492165 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, a vacuum a dyson < 1462492167 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so this website tried to run a 1 GHz CPU at 100 MHz and it failed, but 600 MHz succeeded < 1462492184 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoover is a to old brand < 1462492188 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this disappoints the electronic engineer in me < 1462492196 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the 1920ies < 1462492196 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite dyson only entering the vacuum cleaner market in the 90s < 1462492201 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's somehow related to DRAM/capacitors < 1462492210 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos, are you trolling or are you actually this dense < 1462492223 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a free mind < 1462492235 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only löl a little bit < 1462492243 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you described yourself as locked or unlocked from the matrix of solidity < 1462492252 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`willkommen cripotos < 1462492255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf EFnet oder DALnet.) < 1462492259 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the matrix does not exist < 1462492280 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beliebe in the theories of rudolf steiner < 1462492281 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :bold statements on the fringe of matrix theory here < 1462492284 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe < 1462492312 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what interesting properties do matrices of imaginary numbers have? < 1462492314 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is not many < 1462492323 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the athroposophic super hero < 1462492329 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 are you trolling now as well < 1462492329 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rudolf steiner < 1462492338 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At the beginning of the twentieth century, he founded an esoteric spiritual movement, anthroposophy..." < 1462492341 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not being closed under multiplication is something of a dealbreaker < 1462492344 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it can be hard to tell < 1462492349 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: you have the wrong channel. < 1462492353 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo int e < 1462492353 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean imaginary as in a*i < 1462492358 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes < 1462492361 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats right < 1462492364 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't many other sorts of imaginary numbers < 1462492395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos, you ever read anything by michael kirkbride < 1462492415 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :michael jackson? < 1462492417 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well you sort of assume people actually mean 'complex' because the pure imaginaries are quite pointless < 1462492432 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos, well did you ever read anything by michael jackson? < 1462492434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i haven't read anything by banks yet < 1462492435 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462492450 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1462492450 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oh come on you've had plenty of time < 1462492450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how could they be pointless when there's a whole line of them... < 1462492458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1462492462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read some other books, though < 1462492469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i still don't know which banks book to read < 1462492481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you name one book i'll put it on my to-order list < 1462492488 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :player of games first < 1462492489 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you from saudi arabia < 1462492497 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sharaf al ashraf? < 1462492500 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :use of weapons second, and it's the best in the series < 1462492521 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos, i'll only tell you if you divulge the methods by which you made the guess < 1462492531 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462492551 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i search german speaking slumber mothersa < 1462492557 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schlummtermutter < 1462492561 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moderne hexen < 1462492594 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you all europeans? < 1462492601 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm going to take a guess and say that cripotos is from Switzerland < 1462492611 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah ais < 1462492613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what about consider phlebas < 1462492618 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have special fähigkeiten < 1462492624 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know me? < 1462492629 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider phlebas is kind of weird and not representative of the series < 1462492634 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you Tara? < 1462492640 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not European, personally. < 1462492641 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: actually no, I checked what timezone you were in and geolocated your IP < 1462492646 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reincarnation of Tara? < 1462492652 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to guess the city like that is fraught with confusion < 1462492657 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can make a good guess as to the country < 1462492677 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the city i wohn < 1462492682 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a small city < 1462492688 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares < 1462492690 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :medieval city < 1462492718 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help! < 1462492719 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: summer fun deal." ?utilities routinely, these " black-outs" occur around the world properties. la fragmentation and increase the price. < 1462492721 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with history < 1462492724 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, though, this conversation is all well and good, but you're in the wrong channel and it's offtopic < 1462492744 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who reach bis to the römerzeit < 1462492746 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're probably better off going to a more appropriate channel (we suggested some in the welcome message) < 1462492791 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey is a dangerous country < 1462492795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462492820 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, are you from schweden? < 1462492840 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais here is a esoteric channell < 1462492851 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this channel < 1462492855 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1462492856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1462492857 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only schall und rauch? < 1462492858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: norway actually < 1462492871 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is about esoteric programming languages. < 1462492871 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dann sprichst du deutsch? < 1462492873 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan? < 1462492903 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is esoteric programming? < 1462492923 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's programming for which being useful isn't something you care about < 1462492925 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a term of the informatic world? < 1462492945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, informatics/computer science < 1462492960 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ich bin enttäuscht < 1462492964 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alles n bschiss < 1462492966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi did you see aaronson's blog post yet, you were indirectly mentioned < 1462492972 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1462492977 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihr seid gar keine esoteriker? < 1462492984 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently this is the fourth time it's been mentioned in this channel (me mentioning it was the third) < 1462492993 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: what tipped you off? < 1462493003 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :das ist n bschiss < 1462493009 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's inspired a golfing competition in the comments; I approve < 1462493010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i _think_ i first neener neener < 1462493013 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seid ihr informatikgurus? < 1462493013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i was < 1462493039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah. i'm still reading those. < 1462493039 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaronson is a jüdischer name < 1462493051 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the son of aaron < 1462493055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have ideas about good algorithms for a 2-symbol Turing machine that searches for Goldbach conjecture counterexamples (aiming to minimize the number of states)? < 1462493063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: yes, scott aaronson is pretty definitely jewish < 1462493065 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking about the problem myself but there are so many ways you could go < 1462493075 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also I feel that fractran would be a better language for this sort of thing than TMs) < 1462493075 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan klär mich auf < 1462493080 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was für leute seid ihr? < 1462493087 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :informatiktypen? < 1462493107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes, computer science... < 1462493113 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh man < 1462493114 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mann < 1462493122 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ich bin enttäuscht < 1462493131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: informatikgurus ist korrekt < 1462493149 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :und wieso nennt ihr euch esoteric? < 1462493150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what it's worth, we're disappointet too < 1462493179 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(uh, the finishing t is a nice touch... unintentional though) < 1462493216 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we're discussing programming languages that hardly anyone cares about < 1462493219 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462493231 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$bf < 1462493232 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "bf" is not a valid command. < 1462493235 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462493237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: wie Hackego hat gesagt, EFNet hat ein #esoteric, dass vielleicht dir mehr gefällt. < 1462493238 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi idolbot! < 1462493242 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihr könnt machen was ihr wollt < 1462493245 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mir ist das wurst < 1462493247 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refuses to portmanteau that even though it's obvious < 1462493249 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how you'd do it < 1462493251 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*needs it to load the bf plugin, it ignores me* < 1462493253 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihr könnt hacken, programmieren < 1462493262 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interessiert mich nen alten hut < 1462493270 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ich suche urweibliche < 1462493275 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :übermütter < 1462493289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"overmother"? < 1462493295 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja < 1462493302 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urweibliche sexbomben < 1462493308 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mit hypnoaugen < 1462493315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some sort of insul that I don't understand because my German isn't good enough? < 1462493318 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*insult < 1462493329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripotos: versuch das #esoteric auf EFNet < 1462493335 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its a definition of a super woman < 1462493337 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've pondered it for 5 minutes, without concrete ideas. But there's no reason why it shouldn't be doable in perhaps 100 states. < 1462493347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I believe the current record's around 80 < 1462493368 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems to be tedious < 1462493371 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462493372 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the original aaronson article had a solution with something like 5000, which the comments correctly identified as excessive) < 1462493390 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, 4888 is the number in the paper < 1462493398 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :efnet < 1462493400 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schlimm < 1462493413 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dort treiben sich kriminelle um < 1462493488 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao leute < 1462493490 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :machts gut < 1462493493 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was auch immer < 1462493510 0 :cripotos!b2c5ea95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.197.234.149 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462493601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I evil for not replying in german? < 1462493608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes hth < 1462493613 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462493620 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no hth < 1462493637 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad that's settled then < 1462493641 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: (NULL = NULL) hth < 1462493653 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@rrcs-24-172-147-244.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462493661 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, let me tell y'all about Oracle. < 1462493667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if only because it hurts my brain to do it instead < 1462493699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgot too many words, not to mention genders < 1462493720 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an Oracle SQL problem: Given two character string values x and y, come up with a boolean expression which is true if the values are equal, false if they are not. < 1462493742 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two good ways of doing this. < 1462493761 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$brainfuck +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++o < 1462493761 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "brainfuck" is not a valid command. < 1462493762 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution 1: (x IS NOT NULL AND y IS NOT NULL AND x = y) OR (x IS NULL AND y IS NULL) < 1462493782 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution 2: (x || '.') = (y || '.') < 1462493873 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the punchline? < 1462493924 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what does || do? defined-or? < 1462493938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so NULL equals '.' now? < 1462494012 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Brainfuck < 1462494013 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "Brainfuck" is not a valid command. < 1462494018 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help Brainfuck < 1462494018 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: There is no command "brainfuck". < 1462494021 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help brainfuck < 1462494022 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: There is no command "brainfuck". < 1462494025 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help bf < 1462494025 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: There is no command "bf". < 1462494035 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is mad and not thinking* < 1462494041 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: string concatenation. < 1462494053 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it doesn't. < 1462494085 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$plugin help Brainfuck < 1462494086 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "plugin" is not a valid command. < 1462494088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't NULL = NULL evaluate to NULL, though? and I'd expect concatenating to NULL to also give NULL < 1462494098 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :athough as it's oracle sql it might be weird in these respects < 1462494117 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the concatenation operator treats NULL as the empty string. < 1462494125 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is because Oracle doesn't actually have the empty string. < 1462494148 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are '' and NULL synonyms in string columns? < 1462494151 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems very broken to me < 1462494160 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are synonyms, yes. < 1462494215 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'' isn't the empty string, it's NULL. < 1462494221 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, say, '' = 'foo' evaluates to NULL? < 1462494236 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is PHP/JavaScript levels of broken :-) < 1462494292 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/203493/why-does-oracle-9i-treat-an-empty-string-as-null < 1462494325 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, yes. < 1462494411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is this some sort of insul that I don't understand because my German isn't good enough? <-- i'm going to assume e was alluding to some kind of matriarchal esoteric fertility cult. < 1462494565 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I have a question! < 1462494573 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462494575 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This semigroup presentation has undecidable equality: ac = ca; ad = da; bc = cb; bd = db; ce = eca; de = edb; cca = ccae < 1462494576 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1462494595 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah he was polite; the most impolite word was "b[e]schiss", something like a ripoff. < 1462494612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : *is mad and not thinking* <-- bad combination. btw have you tried the /me irc command? < 1462494613 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1462494621 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice that all rules preserve the subsequence which consists of only the "c"s and "d"s. < 1462494622 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was work < 1462494641 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "a" and "b" commute with "c" and "d". "e" doesn't commute with either. < 1462494683 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I also think you got the gist of what [s]he(oh the e was intentional) wrote there right... and it didn't make more sense in german either. < 1462494754 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. braindrain. < 1462494762 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462494762 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 5h 12m 50s ago: Just break it if you want to know < 1462494766 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462494776 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462494787 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how's the starbucksing? < 1462494812 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :april is over < 1462494812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why? <-- wild guess would be "you can encode a TM in that" hth < 1462494819 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :today was walk far day < 1462494824 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tnos < 1462494825 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Ctrl-C at console. < 1462494848 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellottnos. < 1462494867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462494880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lhoily (now i'm _really_ wondering if i've lost count) < 1462494887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? red canada < 1462494901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red canada? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462494919 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, brainfuck might work no < 1462494926 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462494930 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$brainfuck < 1462494931 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "brainfuck" is not a valid command. < 1462494934 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuuu < 1462495014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER BF INTERPRETER IN THIS CHANNEL. HTH. < 1462495049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: HackEgo lacks an entry on the above < 1462495054 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that, im trying to figure out the plugin frameork, then ill do something ne < 1462495055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1462495058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1462495061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Ah, OK < 1462495068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Why not write a ciol interpreter or something though? < 1462495069 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: :D < 1462495086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is integral again?) < 1462495099 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Area under the curve? < 1462495106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I remember that < 1462495111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: But what's the joke? < 1462495126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What is the domain of the function where the codomain is Terrible Esolangs used there? < 1462495131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1462495133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462495136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1462495137 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: mklang: command not found < 1462495142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1462495144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" < 1462495147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462495147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia: how's the starbucksing? <-- * sudden nostalgic flashback to seattle (not a starbucks, but a small coffee shop right by the university) as well as to when his stomach actually could drink mocha lattes... < 1462495152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right again < 1462495183 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't know what "integral of the family of terrible esolangs" could mean. < 1462495202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Does "family" have a mathematical definitication? < 1462495212 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hppavellon[1]. Canada doesn't exist, so it being red is preposterous hth < 1462495216 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes. < 1462495221 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often, "family" just means "set". < 1462495224 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you seattled? < 1462495227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah < 1462495236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1462495240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett* < 1462495247 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ah ah. < 1462495248 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$reload < 1462495248 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. < 1462495249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Or type, I suppose < 1462495253 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462495259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1462495263 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to fix that, too < 1462495267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$whoami < 1462495267 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't recognize you. < 1462495271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$whoismoon_ < 1462495271 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Error: "whoismoon_" is not a valid command. < 1462495277 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a new bot? < 1462495281 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1462495282 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine < 1462495286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes < 1462495293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But it doesn't do anything new, it seems < 1462495293 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idolbot: fnord? < 1462495293 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Error: "fnord?" is not a valid command. < 1462495293 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Type" doesn't have a standard definition. < 1462495303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Um, type theory? < 1462495314 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but there's no one single standard type theory. < 1462495315 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppa, the bot itself is new, dumbo < 1462495318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It ignores you if you enter too many incorrect commands < 1462495320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh, right < 1462495326 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i removed that hppa < 1462495327 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Type" means "whatever 'type' means in the type theory you're using". < 1462495327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Well yeah < 1462495330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Oh, good < 1462495336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: What do you plan to make it do? < 1462495342 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, really, set the limit absurdly high so nly a spambot can get that < 1462495348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Ah < 1462495370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I think spambots usually don't send 1000 mps < 1462495381 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :120 mps < 1462495388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Ah < 1462495392 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :120 mpm actually < 1462495403 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no-one is gonna reach that without special care < 1462495407 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462495436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: So what will the bot do? < 1462495443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Oooh! Add votey polls! < 1462495447 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1462495450 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe.. < 1462495472 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking maybe something to keep us !bored when there is nothing to do lol < 1462495476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Wait, but then when it gets turned off we'll all be sad... < 1462495489 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1462495493 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant run it all night < 1462495625 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Ctrl-C at console. < 1462495675 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you fnord, unless that weird uncommandable bot? < 1462495675 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: out of the spread the wealth of power and the service of the appropriate. 332163 counterparty. nelson learned that the ect legal dept. of the possible use of inside of that spread leaves plenty of time you have questions. < 1462495680 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/unless/not like/ < 1462495754 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462495759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : plz allow me a bit of promotion - http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=576&p=30646#p30646 <-- congrats! < 1462495760 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$unignore < 1462495760 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: "unignore" is not a valid command. < 1462495776 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$reload < 1462495777 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. < 1462495825 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help < 1462495825 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. < 1462495861 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462495864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (what is integral again?) <-- in calculus, integral is the inverse operation of derivative, hth < 1462495888 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462495890 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$enable < 1462495891 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. < 1462495912 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should set up a VPS that I can use to give shell accounts to people. < 1462495932 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shell accounts for what? < 1462495934 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, bad paedagogy! < 1462495938 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that sounds nice < 1462495951 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux shell accounts. For them to use for whatever they want, I guess. < 1462495960 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it :P < 1462495974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :integral is the area under the curve! < 1462495982 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would donate if i could, cauz im lazy < 1462495998 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@rrcs-24-172-147-244.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462496026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: you seattled? <-- spring 1996 < 1462496030 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462496042 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462496050 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462496056 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$reload < 1462496057 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. < 1462496058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah ah ah. <-- keeping count? < 1462496167 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what < 1462496176 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to just write one from scratch < 1462496214 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im tired of setting up my plugins < 1462496234 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have got to be IRC libraries to use, right? < 1462496250 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1462496265 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah ah ah. <-- keeping count? <-- obviously. < 1462496351 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im definintly using a bit of ciol in it as well < 1462496365 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(intepretation for custom commands) < 1462496525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag of #esoteric < 1462496553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag of #esoteric? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462496555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric flag < 1462496558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric flag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462496571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag < 1462496572 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462496581 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/*flag < 1462496585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*flag: No such file or directory < 1462496589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1462496595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*flag* < 1462496600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/disflagrate wisdom/flagpole < 1462496605 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? disflagrate < 1462496607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disflagrate v.t.perf.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. < 1462496614 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup < 1462496618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1462496626 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1462496643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo wisdom/*#esoteric* < 1462496645 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/*#esoteric* < 1462496660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*#esoteric* < 1462496662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric < 1462496682 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I wondered why it dropped the asterisks... < 1462496682 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1462496684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. < 1462496688 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is it didn't. < 1462496703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I remember defining the #esoteric flag < 1462496711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wisdom color < 1462496712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan, bad paedagogy! <-- how are _you_ going to explain the `? brainfuck joke then? < 1462496713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: color: No such file or directory < 1462496722 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes and learns grep < 1462496745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover oerjan, bad paedagogy! <-- how are _you_ going to explain the `? brainfuck joke then? < 1462496745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462496750 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r color wisdom < 1462496756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Thank you < 1462496761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oregon:Oregon is the home of Oregano. Gregor used to take care of the color scheme, but then he left. \ wisdom/bleen:bleen is the color of the ocean and the trees \ wisdom/piet:6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. \ wisdom/cube:Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube doe < 1462496785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cube < 1462496789 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -rl color wisdom < 1462496791 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was the color done? < 1462496792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1462496793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oregon \ wisdom/bleen \ wisdom/piet \ wisdom/cube \ wisdom/blæg \ wisdom/octarine < 1462496807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom/blæg < 1462496808 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/blæg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462496812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1462496819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blæg < 1462496821 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: mIRC color codes. Most IRC clients treat byte 3 as indicating color stuff. < 1462496821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blaeg is a color that cannot exist under the current understanding of physics. It is used on the #esoteric flag, along with ultraviolet and whatever is convenient. It is a nullary color, meaning that it can be mixed with itself to produce the primary colors. < 1462496891 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ciol < 1462496893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciol ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462496940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: byte 3? Huh? < 1462496948 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy collegues by making a programming lanugage that has insults as commands < 1462496951 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A byte is a number from 0 to 255. < 1462496956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ciol': ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy collegues by making a programming lanugage that has insults as commands < 1462496957 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is one of those numbers. < 1462496969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Ooooh < 1462496983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: So a 0x03 followed by a modifier changes color? < 1462496999 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Byte 3 is also known as 0x03, "ETX", and the Ctrl-C byte. < 1462497003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: See "byte 3" sounds like "the third byte in a bytearray" < 1462497008 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. A 0x03 followed by one or two decimal digits. < 1462497020 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optionally followed by a comma and one or two more decimal digits. < 1462497038 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 < 1462497047 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1462497053 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the ciol one :P < 1462497066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/colleg/colleag/ < 1462497075 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*actually true* < 1462497081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462497099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is that right < 1462497107 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL there's something somewhere in Ubuntu that puts stuff you rm in the trash, even if you `rm -rf`ed it. < 1462497107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ciol < 1462497109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming lanugage that has insults as commands < 1462497112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1462497120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ...wut < 1462497124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/$/./ < 1462497127 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yup. wut. < 1462497132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462497142 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly freed >100 GB on my hard drive. < 1462497148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `sedlast s/./$/ < 1462497156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what < 1462497160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462497160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: WUT. < 1462497161 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that work? Is it just a different version of "rm"? Or does it give things a different libc or whatever? < 1462497174 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ciol < 1462497175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming lanugage that has insults as commands. < 1462497181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1462497182 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed -i "$1" "$(lastfiles)" < 1462497187 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought hppavilion[1] had actually done it. < 1462497190 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lastfiles < 1462497191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log -l 1 --template "{files}\n" < 1462497201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, you will notice that HackEgo didn't say anything < 1462497214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: And that the message has a leeding space < 1462497215 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a space at the beginning of your message. < 1462497229 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: And that the message has a bleeding space < 1462497242 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i color something red then? < 1462497255 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uknow, in chat < 1462497265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: With your IMAGINATION < 1462497269 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462497270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow < 1462497271 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or maybe I'm confused. do not heed anything I write tonight as untarnished truth. < 1462497278 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With byte 3 followed by "04". < 1462497281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/sedlast files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" < 1462497285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462497287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1462497298 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i give that to hackego? < 1462497298 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I wonder if that one command is still there... < 1462497301 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly This one. < 1462497332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462497333 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone froze ego < 1462497335 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedlast files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files < 1462497336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09T09,04h04,09i09,04s04,09 09,04o04,09n09,04e04,09. < 1462497343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: hppavilion[1] i think < 1462497351 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one. < 1462497352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grepgrep < 1462497353 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462497354 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: grepgrep: not found < 1462497356 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '\000304Will this be red?' < 1462497357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Will this be red? < 1462497357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/sedlast//files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" < 1462497359 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`kgrep < 1462497360 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedlast < 1462497361 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: kgrep: not found < 1462497388 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of surprised that nobody's deleted the `loudly command. < 1462497392 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly IT'S SO ANNOYING. < 1462497394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09I09,04T04,09'09,04S04,09 09,04S04,09O09,04 04,09A09,04N04,09N09,04O04,09Y09,04I04,09N09,04G04,09. < 1462497399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :new rule: if you make new commands after someone has made an error, except to correct that error, you get banned < 1462497416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iGrep < 1462497430 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly Also it cuts off whatever it is that you're saying after a relatively small number of characters, since the color codes for this are pretty verbose and IRC doesn't have that long a limit. < 1462497432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09A09,04l04,09s09,04o04,09 09,04i04,09t09,04 04,09c09,04u04,09t09,04s04,09 09,04o04,09f09,04f04,09 09,04w04,09h09,04a04,09t09,04e04,09v09,04e04,09r09,04 04,09i09,04t04,09 09,04i04,09s09,04 04,09t09,04h04,09a09,04t04,09 09,04y04,09o09,04u04,09'09,04r04,09e09,04 04,09s09,04a04,09y09,04i04,09n09, < 1462497436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because reverting things is really annoying when two people are doing things simultaneously < 1462497446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1462497447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" < 1462497452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastfiles < 1462497454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erro < 1462497470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell made erro < 1462497486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro < 1462497487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: erro: not found < 1462497492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat erro < 1462497494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo \000304 < 1462497544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* i'm going to have to look at the repository again, don't i < 1462497556 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame erro < 1462497556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: blame: not found < 1462497557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o09,04e04,09r09,04j04,09a09,04n04,09:09,04 04,09L09,04o04,09o09,04k04,09s09,04 04,09l09,04i04,09k09,04e04,09 09,04i04,09t09,04 04,09w09,04a04,09s09,04 04,09t09,04s04,09w09,04e04,09t09,04t04,09 09,04o04,09r09,04 04,09a09,04u04,09t09,04o04,09m09,04a04,09t09,04e04,09d < 1462497578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame tswett < 1462497580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: blame: not found < 1462497582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1462497582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462497591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` blame tswett > oerjan < 1462497592 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I coulda sworn we had `blame. < 1462497596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: blame: command not found < 1462497608 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain there is no blame. < 1462497613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1462497621 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '\000305Will this be put into erro?' < 1462497630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05Will this be put into erro? < 1462497632 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat erro < 1462497634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: erro: No such file or directory < 1462497652 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/shrug < 1462497653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462497675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls emotipros < 1462497676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access emotipros: No such file or directory < 1462497722 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro test < 1462497724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04 test < 1462497770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame tswett < 1462497772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/blame: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/blame: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462497782 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits erro < 1462497788 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot that idiots < 1462497790 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ < 1462497794 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh. < 1462497796 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*laugh* < 1462497797 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits tswett < 1462497801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462497810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame tswett < 1462497811 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462497812 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are "No" and "output"? < 1462497826 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame the demonic duck < 1462497827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462497835 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting that. < 1462497849 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits blame < 1462497854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462497860 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/blame < 1462497865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1462497872 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp! lol < 1462497880 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/blame < 1462497881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "It was tswett's fault! Punish them!" < 1462497906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs hysterically < 1462497908 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/blame//echo it was "$1"'s fault! Punish them! < 1462497912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/blame < 1462497915 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame moon < 1462497917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/blame: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/blame: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462497919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: -_- < 1462497929 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/blame//echo it was "$1"s fault! Punish them! < 1462497932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/blame < 1462497933 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame moon < 1462497935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was moons fault! Punish them! < 1462497935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: It's the ! < 1462497951 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/blame//echo it was "$1"\'s fault! Punish them! < 1462497957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/blame < 1462497961 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame hppavilion[1] < 1462497962 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame the Nazis < 1462497963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was hppavilion[1] 's fault! Punish them! < 1462497963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the Nazis's fault! Punish them! < 1462497972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Stahp < 1462497981 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/blame//echo It was "$1"\'s fault! Punish them! < 1462497983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/blame < 1462497993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: :,( < 1462497995 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have blame < 1462497998 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you want to blame the person you're talking to, it's... < 1462498000 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame you < 1462498001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was you's fault! Punish them! < 1462498001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put it somewhere else < 1462498014 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere besides bin/blame? < 1462498019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv bin/blame bin/blame2 < 1462498021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `bin/blame bin/blame2' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462498021 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhhhh.... no < 1462498028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/blame bin/blame2 < 1462498032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498039 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it clunky < 1462498048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: The tswett joke is so funny though < 1462498049 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shall change it back in due time* < 1462498064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame anyone but tswett < 1462498064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462498076 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo pongo los votos sólo por hppavilion[1]. < 1462498085 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put the tswett joke in blame2 < 1462498086 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Los otros son locos—yo los conozco. < 1462498089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: No < 1462498100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: If it's in normal blame, then people will be surprised by it < 1462498101 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*will ignore* < 1462498107 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, loltrue < 1462498120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: They'll `blame someone other than tswett, and it will say tswett instead < 1462498135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: They'll be confused initially, then they'll `cat bin/blame and start laughing < 1462498140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462498142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ !\.´ \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ oerjan \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share \ So < 1462498161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat karma < 1462498162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren now has 1 karma. < 1462498171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat karma | wc < 1462498173 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 5 22 < 1462498183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat karma | shuf < 1462498184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren now has 1 karma. < 1462498192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1462498195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1462498199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat karma | shuf -n1 < 1462498200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren now has 1 karma. < 1462498202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat karma | shuf -n1 < 1462498205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren now has 1 karma. < 1462498209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462498236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc -l karma < 1462498238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 karma < 1462498245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : *shall change it back in due time* <-- seriously, learn to use /me < 1462498258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION teaches moon_ to use /me < 1462498262 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: /me < 1462498270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has completed moon_'s training < 1462498278 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/me pretends to try and fail to use the /me command. < 1462498283 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462498313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -v bin/"sedlast "* < 1462498316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed `bin/sedlast files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files' < 1462498333 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxwluyrrfoavtnxs JOIN :#esoteric < 1462498336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ciol < 1462498338 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming lanugage that has insults as commands. < 1462498347 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462498352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`checkkarma < 1462498353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: checkkarma: not found < 1462498359 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462498360 0 :moon_!4c014a81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462498364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/lanug/langu/' wisdom/ciol < 1462498367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/././ < 1462498385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ciol//.iol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming language that has insults as commands. < 1462498389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462498394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/./c/ < 1462498402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/getkarma//grep "$1" ../karma < 1462498407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulate//ccho congratulations Moon_, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462498407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO < 1462498411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/getkarma < 1462498441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: `sedlast is not safe against simultaneous editing :( < 1462498445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Um, what just happened? < 1462498471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what happens is that someone stealth edited congratulate while i was using sedlast < 1462498474 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-74-129.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462498479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah < 1462498498 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast must be burned, as it can never be safely used. < 1462498498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/./e/' congratulate < 1462498500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`getkarma oren < 1462498514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ... < 1462498521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`burn bin/sedlast < 1462498526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: ../karma: No such file or directory < 1462498531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1462498540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `m' \ bin/congratulate2//echo congratulations "$1", you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462498541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: burn: not found < 1462498544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/getkarma//grep "$1" karma < 1462498548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/getkarma < 1462498550 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462498552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`getkarma oren < 1462498553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren now has 1 karma. < 1462498564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/now //' karma < 1462498567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/sedlast < 1462498571 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498578 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./congratulate hppavilion[1] < 1462498585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i honestly agree. < 1462498588 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate hppavilion[1] < 1462498589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations Moon_, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462498598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: That was my joke :,( < 1462498607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, i'd prefer if HackEgo did _not_ take private messages. < 1462498618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's such an awful mess. < 1462498625 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate2 hppavilion[1] < 1462498625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations hppavilion[1] , you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462498637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But that would have ruined my tswett joke earlier :/ < 1462498649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ciol < 1462498649 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1462498650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.iol is a language designed by moon_, it started as a scheme to annoy colleagues by making a programming language that has insults as commands. < 1462498656 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION overthroes hppavilion[1] from his reign < 1462498658 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rly oerjan? < 1462498663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/./c/' wisdom/ciol < 1462498665 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was about to abdicate :/ < 1462498667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498670 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame2 oerjan < 1462498671 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was oerjan 's fault! Punish them! < 1462498678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame tswett < 1462498679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: really what? < 1462498679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462498686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/blame2 < 1462498686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame oerjan < 1462498690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462498695 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1462498699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend not annoying me any more at this point hth < 1462498702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: NO REVERT WARS < 1462498707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`de...vert? < 1462498710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1462498711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: de...vert?: not found < 1462498736 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd home < 1462498737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1462498741 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daw < 1462498744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: HackEgo isn't persistent < 1462498749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: cd doesn't work < 1462498756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ac/dc < 1462498757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/ac/dc: No such file or directory < 1462498816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`abdicate < 1462498817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: abdicate: not found < 1462498834 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat myself < 1462498835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad myself < 1462498845 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gg hackego (lol) < 1462498851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`start the_fire.exe < 1462498852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: start: not found < 1462498888 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/swat < 1462498896 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ moon__ moon__ moon__ moon__ elliott shachaf elliott shachaf elliott shachaf < 1462498912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls emoticons < 1462498913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drowning \ flipbird \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ swatter \ useless < 1462498924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fix it hth < 1462498925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`weapons < 1462498926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: weapons: not found < 1462498930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/weapons < 1462498931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: share/weapons: No such file or directory < 1462498937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grep -e weapons < 1462498948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was a fumbling guess) < 1462498950 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat emoticons/* < 1462498951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol \ 凸 \ ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン \ (°Д°) \ (≧∇≦)/ \ ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ ーー蟲蟲 \ オラオラオラ(三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 < 1462498954 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd #i ant < 1462498955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04 invalid command ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) < 1462498968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462498972 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462498986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up. < 1462499014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Great, you made oerjan give up < 1462499017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame Moon__ < 1462499018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462499018 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes up from oerjan happily < 1462499067 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme do myself a favor... < 1462499084 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame2 < 1462499084 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1462499085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was 's fault! Punish them! < 1462499137 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462499147 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme try to figure this out. < 1462499168 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$brainfuck < 1462499169 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Error: "brainfuck" is not a valid command. < 1462499173 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cri* < 1462499180 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help Brainfuck < 1462499180 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Error: There is no command "brainfuck". < 1462499185 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help < 1462499186 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. < 1462499186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1462499195 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help [Brainfuck] < 1462499195 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Error: "Brainfuck" is not a valid command. < 1462499203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/b < 1462499206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /b: No such file or directory < 1462499210 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*criii* < 1462499219 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help Brainfuck < 1462499219 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Error: There is no command "brainfuck". < 1462499232 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the plugin >_> < 1462499238 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its set up too < 1462499257 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c "$(echo -e 'sed -i "s/tswett/tsw\0020ett/" bin/blame')" < 1462499260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462499270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1462499270 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame the weather < 1462499271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462499278 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The heck is that? < 1462499284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Ah, yes, I approve < 1462499300 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c "$(echo -e 'sed -i "s/tsw\0020ett/tsw\0017ett/" bin/blame')" < 1462499303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462499309 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame the sky < 1462499311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462499315 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go! < 1462499347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tswatt < 1462499350 0 :earenndil!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1462499361 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate earenndil < 1462499362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations Moon_, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462499386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: fix it hth <-- fix what < 1462499402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:34 shachaf: `sedlast is not safe against simultaneous editing :( < 1462499403 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462499415 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1462499426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1462499438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you meant if the previous command edited multiple files < 1462499449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that i was reading messages on my phone and not paying a whole lot of attention hth < 1462499453 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1462499465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`disparage Moon__ < 1462499466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: disparage: not found < 1462499473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway the obvious solution is to require the user of sedlast to specify the complete old filename and contents < 1462499485 0 :earenndil!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1462499485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Moon__ takes up from oerjan happily <-- excellent, from now on it's your job to fix everything other people do wrong with HackEgo. good luck. < 1462499507 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god *still keeps it tho* < 1462499519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate Moon__ < 1462499520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: congratulate: not found < 1462499529 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate earenndil < 1462499531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: congratulate: not found < 1462499536 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone removed it < 1462499550 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/congratulate < 1462499552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blame boily < 1462499560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was tswett's fault! Punish them! < 1462499563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] Moon__ < 1462499568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~DevourerO@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462499571 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppa! < 1462499589 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavillon[1] < 1462499591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* < 1462499605 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavillon[1] < 1462499606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavillon[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462499611 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462499615 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavillon[1] < 1462499616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavillon[1] just got fried by jumpercables! < 1462499619 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavillon[1] < 1462499619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavillon[1] has been badly maimed! < 1462499621 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavillon[1] < 1462499622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: anyway the obvious solution is to require the user of sedlast to specify the complete old filename and contents <-- aka "making it 90% useless" hth < 1462499622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavillon[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462499627 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462499640 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym 100% useless hth < 1462499642 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1462499643 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome newperson < 1462499644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newperson: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1462499652 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ummmm... < 1462499676 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: u arent the most welcoming person < 1462499684 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1462499695 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*curls up in a corner* < 1462499705 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it _could_ still be slightly shorter than `` sed -i '...' '...' < 1462499715 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462499717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ !\.´ \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ congratulate \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ oerjan \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUari < 1462499718 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Given the repeated maming. < 1462499731 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... hppa, stop faking < 1462499736 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1462499744 0 :newperson!~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462499747 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*murders hppa* < 1462499760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462499765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally worth a try < 1462499770 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462499783 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now fix congratulate < 1462499788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i rounded from 99.9% < 1462499798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I honestly thought that would work) < 1462499816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, why does culprits list deleted files?) < 1462499819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yeah you were so unsuspicious < 1462499830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How so? < 1462499831 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Moon__: u arent the most welcoming person < 1462499835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Also, what dipped you off? < 1462499843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tipped < 1462499845 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact you stated < 1462499850 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Moon__: Given the repeated maming. < 1462499858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Really? < 1462499860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats hppavilion[1] -----### < 1462499860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: How? < 1462499866 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you refered to yourself in that sentence < 1462499878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: When did I refer to myself? < 1462499886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itymology < 1462499888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itymology is the science of understanding the true meaning of a statement. < 1462499895 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~Unsuspici@58-0-174-206.gci.net < 1462499902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: I MEANT that you were repeatedly maiming people < 1462499907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Not me in particular < 1462499914 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seemed like you ment yourself < 1462499923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: the maimings happened after newperson joined. i say it was legit, but no match for your superior suspicion hth < 1462499947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: also, get a client with tab completion hth < 1462499958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and /me < 1462499958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Agreed < 1462499975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: And one that doesn't display hostnames < 1462499997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits < 1462500009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] tswett tswett Moon__ Moon__ Moon__ Moon__ oerjan oerjan oerjan hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] Moon__ Moon__ Moon__ hppavilion[1] oerjan Moon__ oerjan oerjan oerjan hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] tswett hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] tswett hppavilion[1] moon_ hppavilion[1] moon_ hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] moon < 1462500026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits -h < 1462500033 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462500034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462500051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is culprits a hashego builtin? < 1462500069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1462500074 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indubitably. < 1462500095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shachego builtin < 1462500112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also, why does culprits list deleted files?) <-- so that we don't have to recreate a file just to check its history to see if it needs recreation, duh < 1462500117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was created by nitia < 1462500122 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/zzo38 < 1462500131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1462500209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1462500215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e Jafet Jafet tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf < 1462500256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462500257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462500262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/spoilsport < 1462500279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think this channels is confused enough at the moment. < 1462500279 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia's nice < 1462500286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1462500309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: initially, at least < 1462500312 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1462500314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1462500321 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1462500322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bbc < 1462500325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. < 1462500339 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tinyelf < 1462500340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinyelf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462500348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append bbc Taneb invented it. < 1462500352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bbc': The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1462500352 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? muppet < 1462500353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muppet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462500384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1462500385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, robots, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1462500416 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? progress < 1462500418 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Progress has been made today. It was invented by Taneb. < 1462500423 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? robots < 1462500425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are deterministic finite Belgians that repeat themselves. Taneb invented them. < 1462500438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/robots < 1462500442 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462500442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/robot < 1462500446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1462500449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1462500453 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1462500454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a terrible wisdom entry < 1462500470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/robot; sed -i 's/robots, //' wisdom/tanebvention < 1462500472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462500480 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it was wisdoomed < 1462500507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/progress/the BBC, progress/' wisdom/tanebvention < 1462500511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462500528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1462500530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1462500530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, if he never invents anything involving sex, then what's a D-module? < 1462500537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1462500538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1462500550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1462500551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented it. < 1462500556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just wait until you see HMS Pinafore hth < 1462500567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HMS Pinafore < 1462500568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMS Pinafore? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462500570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, if hppavilion[1] thinks a d-module involves sex, then what is it? < 1462500601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's a pun on... certain uses of the letter "D" < 1462500658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google captain's song pinafore < 1462500659 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Np-PjftJN8 < 1462500671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :certain uses to which i have not previously been introduced. < 1462500687 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d-modules cannot involve sex. they are a tanebvention, and Taneb doesn't invent sex. < 1462500738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Wisdoom is realizing just too late how you could have avoided your demise. < 1462500741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wisdoom': Wisdoom is realizing just too late how you could have avoided your demise. < 1462500777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: example: " wants the D" < 1462500795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the most mature usage < 1462500808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really quite stupid < 1462500830 0 :Moon__!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462500876 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462500880 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@91.219.247.213 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1462500883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hms pinafore//HMS Pinafore is just some infernal nonsense, according to general majority opinion. < 1462500887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hms pinafore» < 1462500908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so stupid it makes no sense even _after_ you've heard of it. < 1462500918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, true < 1462500926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: D as in "Dick" < 1462500933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cringes < 1462501084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1462501093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :general majority < 1462501283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "hppavilion[1] has -i karma" >> karma < 1462501287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462501290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma hppavilion[1] < 1462501299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] has 0 karma. < 1462501308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat karma < 1462501309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren has 1 karma. \ hppavilion[1] has -i karma < 1462501317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/karma < 1462501317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 has $(lib/karma "$1") karma." < 1462501321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1462501324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1462501339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/getkarma < 1462501342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462501351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I added that earlier because I didn't realize there was bin/karma) < 1462501363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma oren < 1462501372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren has 1 karma. < 1462501393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lib/karma < 1462501395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ count () { \ hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \ egrep '<[^]]*> karma\'$1 | \ fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \ cut -d' ' -f3 | \ fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus)) < 1462501404 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma oerjan < 1462501404 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has a karma of 34 < 1462501413 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1462501415 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1462501417 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1462501423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma oerjan < 1462501423 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has a karma of 37 < 1462501425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1462501427 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't leave someone's karma on a composite number. < 1462501428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1462501435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :) < 1462501463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh! Does @karma increase karma? < 1462501472 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it checks your current karma. < 1462501477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh < 1462502111 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ARTWORK CHICKEN < 1462502471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462503672 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462503925 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462505191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1462505254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462505256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1462505303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1462505314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462505314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1462505321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1462505322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords < 1462505332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1462505346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leption < 1462505363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 50 < 1462505375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trauboy ofc poo klosoppe whoh suspendemility aperprope compen dric lely sematione poing ferro make ten geor giosent suya pava lyce sphen twick condicallic djoyne diame < 1462505381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1462505398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02sorcoin 06esfulcoin 13attercoin 04lenlecoin 07wakelxquocoin 08hildyncoin 09quotecoin 02discoin 06noobabtcoin 13bagcoin 04mechowelaguffainimetalkuncoin 07logcoin 08pringcoin 09quatcoin 02automecoin 06hightcoin 13maiiacoin 04()coin 07vilinecoin 08agacoin < 1462505414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. < 1462505430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: are you dying of old age and bitrot :( < 1462506852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462507372 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462507386 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you????? < 1462507397 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462507403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well _eventually_... < 1462507656 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually... the singularity? < 1462507687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have enacted an evil plan < 1462507691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet nobody can guess it < 1462507734 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write HackBot as a script and host is on HackBot? < 1462507738 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it* < 1462507749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greenlock: You are even more evil than me :( < 1462507797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/nothp < 1462507798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you can't prove hppavilion[1] wrote this file < 1462507852 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462507922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a challenge, tswett, oerjan, & co) < 1462508001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits share/nothp < 1462508009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462508018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462508019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/hppavilion\[1\]//g" | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462508022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1462508126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/[|] sed[^|]*//' bin/culprits; culprits share/nothp < 1462508150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1462508156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1462508159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462508162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462508186 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :greenlock told me to come in here. I have no idea what's going on. < 1462508210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right now here is pretty silent. < 1462508225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier there was a lot of bot chaos. < 1462508253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before that there was a confused swiss who thought this was the other kind of #esoteric. < 1462508261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Nathan2055 < 1462508280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Nathan2055: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1462508336 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much color. Such rainbow. < 1462508362 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't think I want to know what the "other kind of esoteric" is. < 1462508381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably what you think it is. < 1462508420 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1462508421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1462508428 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoterica < 1462508429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoterica? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462508443 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loins < 1462508444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: loins: not found < 1462508458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: wat < 1462508461 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? loins < 1462508463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loins? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462508472 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/coin/loin/' < bin/coins > bin/loins < 1462508474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462508476 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/loins < 1462508478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462508479 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loins < 1462508487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1462508509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, `coins seems to have a tendency of timing out recently. < 1462508512 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know what's going on right now. < 1462508519 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08whenloin 09triptloin 02swayloin 06bibaloin 13gratloin 04valloin 07p''loin 08factratedloin 09htafnfaloin 02marmloin 06convenloin 13carandolumloin 04manloin 07dumpetloin 08deliumloin 09lockzloin 02fernsilloin 06nicmefulloin 13immtloin 04wheadactalk:brandloin < 1462508534 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to discussing the possibility of RAIDing tape drives in #wikipedia-en < 1462508539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathan2055: tswett is investigating loin types < 1462508547 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy wheadactalk:™ brand loin! < 1462508565 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I assume loin means something different in this universe? < 1462508571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: do they come with free girding? < 1462508616 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1462508632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should upgrade, then. < 1462508714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathan2055 seems to have a weak mind. no one mention the name of our most famous esolang, please. < 1462508731 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aware of beed. < 1462508734 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*beef < 1462508888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beef < 1462508889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beef? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462508912 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1462508923 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compiler is called beef IIRC. < 1462508926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1462508927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1462508959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/[.]/. The name is a euphemism for "beef"./' wisdom/brainfuck < 1462508963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462508977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of compilers. < 1462508990 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 90% of the messages in this channel make no sense. < 1462508990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1462508991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1462508997 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prepares to get murdered < 1462509016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't murder people for the truth here. now puns on the other hand... < 1462509068 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxwluyrrfoavtnxs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462509082 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does puckipedia do? < 1462509092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :puckipedia: what do you do? < 1462509122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think puckipedia is a bot, although i don't remember em speaking either, so i could be wrong. < 1462509134 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462509172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462509397 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462509399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not a bot. he has a website. < 1462509399 0 :greenlock!~Greenlock@108-210-180-144.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1462509533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive credentials < 1462509577 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462509634 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462509717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462509770 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462509884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 share/nothp < 1462509886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1462509896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 share/nothp < 1462509898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462509900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 share/nothp < 1462509903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1462509907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 share/nothp < 1462509910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1462509913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1462510006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coins < 1462510008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coins? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462510012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `coins < 1462510013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`coins? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462510018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1462510019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords < 1462510065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} < 1462510070 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} < 1462510071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument "${1---eng-1M" isn't numeric in int at /hackenv/bin/words line 148. < 1462510075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} < 1462510076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument "words" isn't numeric in int at /hackenv/bin/words line 148. < 1462510088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...eh? < 1462510091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1462510093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08scricoin 09immcoin 02rincoin 06heatncoin 13enicoin 04decacoin 07rhercoin 08potecoin 09wamcoin 02celcoin 06noilogcoin 13mismcoin 04mdtianchooplecorrecoin 07dispcoin 08rgncoin 09finatorcoin 02sattecoin 06bfgcoin 13abcokmaniquiecoin 04potucoin < 1462510096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat loins < 1462510097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: loins: No such file or directory < 1462510103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/loins < 1462510104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/loin\1/g' | rainwords < 1462510119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} < 1462510120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument "words" isn't numeric in int at /hackenv/bin/words line 148. < 1462510123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1462510133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat words < 1462510134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: words: No such file or directory < 1462510139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/words < 1462510139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ use strict; use warnings; \ use v5.10; \ use open qw( :encoding(UTF-8) :std); \ use File::Basename 'dirname'; \ use Storable 'retrieve'; \ use List::Util qw(sum min); \ use Getopt::Long qw(:config gnu_getopt); \ BEGIN { \ eval { \ require Math::Random::MT::Perl; Math::Random::MT::Perl->import('rand'); \ }; \ #wa < 1462510147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have seen that coming given "line 148" < 1462510164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... why doesn't it work when it isn't piped? < 1462510200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIMDcoin < 1462510288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/122336/i-got-an-email-threatening-to-ddos-me-if-i-dont-pay-a-ransom-what-should-i-do < 1462510299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our attacks are extremely powerful - sometimes over 1 Tbps per second. And we pass CloudFlare and others remote protections! So, no cheap protection will help." < 1462510308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 Tbps per second" < 1462510313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tbps per second" < 1462510317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that isn't RAS Syndrome < 1462510401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jobende 5* 10New user account < 1462510439 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462510708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} # hppavilion[1] < 1462510709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} # hppavilion[1] < 1462510756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that doesn't expand to the right thing outside of the bin/coins script < 1462510766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bin/loins < 1462510947 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tera bytes per second per second would be a unit of change in traffic < 1462511030 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462511070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: basically, it expands to the argument of bin/` < 1462511074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1462511075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1462511105 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if you have zero traffic now and one Mbps traffic ten minutes from now, then your traffic has spiked at a rate of 16.66 kbps^2 < 1462511107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $0 < 1462511108 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/` < 1462511135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, wait did I do that math right? < 1462511139 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever. < 1462511166 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462511311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462511896 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462512562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462513569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462514057 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462514068 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462517607 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462517892 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462518076 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462518262 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462519099 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462519465 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462520203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices a dark shadow of trouble in today's freefall < 1462521352 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there needs to be a programming language made of cheese < 1462521865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a casein point < 1462522164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why doesn't english use one of -ein or -eine predictably? ) < 1462523618 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought there were shadows of trouble in 2804 already < 1462523679 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean literal shadows, hmm < 1462523771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1462524868 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadows? < 1462524905 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :can text cast shadows? 15can text cast shadows? < 1462525224 0 :sewilton_!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzqihnginnmraqwr JOIN :#esoteric < 1462525299 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ggctsviovyjectkn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1462525301 0 :sewilton_!?@? NICK :sewilton < 1462525585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: of course not 15-----### < 1462525675 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:79ff:5cba:fe78:b8a5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462525782 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that a shadow of? 15what is that a shadow of? < 1462526366 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a shadow, but the ghost of swattings yet to come < 1462526729 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( can shadows cast text ? ) < 1462527388 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462528039 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course text can cast shadows... this can be seen in many shop signs... < 1462528056 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: freefall is actually a webcomic. < 1462528084 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefall? < 1462528116 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the webcomic or the shadow 15the webcomic or the 2an3om4al7y < 1462528202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: OKAY < 1462528272 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462529075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46953&oldid=46952 5* 03Occular 5* (+35) 10 < 1462529723 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462529976 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462530719 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadow 15glit@$2 < 1462533572 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462533753 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462533840 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462534117 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462534407 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462534409 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1462534830 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1462535912 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462535946 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462536055 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CONFINED CHICKEN < 1462539230 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1462540407 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462540420 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1462541766 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some person made yet another thing. https://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2016/05/05/setbang-1-toward-a-more-unreadable-esolang/ < 1462542017 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nnycfqkgaljgmiul JOIN :#esoteric < 1462542758 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462543113 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462543523 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you like Turing machines? < 1462543523 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it to investigate the enron case of the el data from eu countries to keep the price that we < 1462543559 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is Gravity a good film? < 1462543559 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: as we will it be of the texas market seems the logical to me! i < 1462544324 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462544772 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462544816 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462545858 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1462545921 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462546580 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462546641 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462547347 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462547967 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462548214 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1462548240 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462548270 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462549103 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462549486 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462550014 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462550677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nullary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46955&oldid=46953 5* 03Occular 5* (-7) 10 < 1462552340 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp i cant stop typing snv instead of svn < 1462552524 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I have the most problem with typing the other one of "io" and "oi". The problem is that both of those occur in English words, so I can't just train myself to type only one. < 1462552564 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other common transposition typo I do is in my real name, because I type that quickly. < 1462553233 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462553267 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I guess oi and io are two sides of the same cion < 1462553964 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Let's try to aviod voilating the boundaries of good taste with them puns, okay. < 1462554005 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I find that notoin absurd < 1462554106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: congratulations on inventing the bbc < 1462554122 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1462554155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1462554166 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BBC < 1462554170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. < 1462554507 0 :feliks!Hdnu6exwfG@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462554589 0 :feliks!5ewzxc5gpC@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1462554816 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`inventions < 1462554818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: inventions: not found < 1462554824 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? inventions < 1462554826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inventions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462555236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"invention" is a synonym for "tanebvention" hth < 1462555261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`inventions taneb < 1462555262 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: inventions: not found < 1462555467 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1462555719 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1462556040 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462556450 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462556450 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host < 1462556450 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462557775 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462557925 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462558137 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462558813 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462559061 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462559545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462559913 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :BigBrother < 1462559951 0 :BigBrother!?@? NICK :ybden < 1462560415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462560927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462560930 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462561014 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462561194 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462561309 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462561702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462562070 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ACAB is short for "all codecs are broken". < 1462562100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'acab': ACAB is short for "all codecs are broken". < 1462562543 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo *_* < 1462562546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls_dev < 1462562574 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*_* < 1462562576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/_̰̆̓_Ì̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋Ì̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ wisdom/̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚Í͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞ wisdom/b_jonas wisdom/koen_ wisdom/ < 1462562593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ug < 1462562656 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462562997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462563697 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462563717 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1462563723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ta': TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1462563736 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?TAS < 1462563739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?TAS: not found < 1462563739 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TAS < 1462563743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1462563747 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ta < 1462563750 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1462563754 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1462563763 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? huh < 1462563767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462563777 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462563790 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn huh is ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462563794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'huh': huh is ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462563830 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you wanted that? < 1462563911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Did you mean "`learn A TAS is a ..."? < 1462564351 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462564355 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( libtool is for hardcore players) < 1462564755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have book that includes Niels Bohr's coat-of-arms. < 1462565017 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike the one on Wikipedia this one though also includes his full name on the left and a date on the right (XVII Octobris an:MCMXLVII). About the date, Wikipedia says "At a memorial meeting of the Academy on 17 October 1947 for King Christian X, who had died in April, the new king, Frederick IX, announced that he was conferring the Order of the Elephant on Bohr." < 1462565249 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462565333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hellborne14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46956 5* 03Moon 5* (+520) 10Created page with "Hellborne is a language designed to be '''''as hard as fliping possible''''', generic things like increment and decrement, or changing the focused variable, take multiple comm..." < 1462565374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hellborne14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46957&oldid=46956 5* 03Moon 5* (+5) 10 < 1462565815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainmaker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46958&oldid=34528 5* 03Moon 5* (+107) 10 < 1462566042 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yqfrhkyejaxidcqw QUIT :Quit: / is now empty < 1462566062 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce JOIN :#esoteric < 1462566102 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462566387 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462567270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462567287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoof is a fun proof assistant < 1462567301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I use for serious proofs? < 1462567315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also Thoof < 1462567326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it depends on what kind of system you're proving in < 1462567636 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way to do conversion of 16-bit numbers from binary to decimal is to have tables for converting each byte into the place values in decimal (eight tables in total), and then add them up by implementing decimal arithmetic. On 6502 this can work well; use CMP #10 after each digit is processed and the carry flag is already correct for dealing with the next one. < 1462567717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1462567728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard you wanted to break Z-machine backwards compatibility? < 1462567804 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know why; I was not trying to break it? < 1462568217 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you hear such thing anyways? < 1462568266 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1462568270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking to vaporware. < 1462568305 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not earlier < 1462568307 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462568573 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: At what time? < 1462568583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yesterday evening. < 1462568727 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fun. < 1462568760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You know vaporware, don't you? < 1462568797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462568874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462569140 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462569160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462569164 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462569211 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462569311 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1462569407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: jmcgrew? < 1462569530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462569558 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their name is Jesse McGrew as can be reveal by finger command on ifMUD < 1462570426 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462570994 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 Take a look at http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/dither/jy/ < 1462571009 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to link you to that sooner but haven't gotten around to it < 1462571095 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will read it. < 1462571123 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462571146 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1462571256 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use some of these for adding into my "ff-reduce" program < 1462571283 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate oerjan < 1462571284 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462571284 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462571307 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hackego alive? < 1462571311 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462571312 0 :idolbot!~supybot@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462571322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: congratulate: not found < 1462571323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ !\.´ \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ alrus \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ congratulate \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ oerjan \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes < 1462571357 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culptrits bin/congratulate < 1462571358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: culptrits: not found < 1462571368 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/congratulate < 1462571382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] Moon__ < 1462571405 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./congratulate < 1462571406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations Moon_, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462571411 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1462571413 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1462571413 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1462571442 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv congratulate bin/congratulate < 1462571444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `congratulate bin/congratulate' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462571451 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv congratulate bin/congratulate < 1462571456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462571482 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462571767 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462572328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462572429 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Moon_ < 1462572446 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :youve been mooning the wiki quite a lot today < 1462572502 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462572602 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways my pc died while i was just starting on a brainmaker (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainmaker) intepreter )= < 1462572613 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost a lot of code < 1462572655 0 :nycs!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462572659 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462572714 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462572863 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna start back up on working on a jirc bot < 1462573197 0 :madgoat!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462573208 0 :madgoat!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is moon < 1462573213 0 :madgoat!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing irc < 1462573217 0 :madgoat!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1462573629 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit of a shame HackEgo doesn't make the person invoking the command available via an environment variable. < 1462573671 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1462573720 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462573790 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462573931 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462574288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You can always use culprits. < 1462574299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list-style < 1462574469 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nnycfqkgaljgmiul QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462574590 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye-es, but only posthumously, right? < 1462574952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately. < 1462575175 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*writing out the specifications and details of a new esolang, making the page quite long* < 1462575871 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :++* < 1462575871 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : *$* < 1462575871 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : *+o < 1462575881 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a sample program < 1462575929 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blog entry on busy beavers and decidability: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725 < 1462576068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antgrid14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46959 5* 03Moon 5* (+1191) 10Made page -Moon < 1462576108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you already discuss that post in this channel? < 1462576127 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's come up thrice. < 1462576132 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't remember by whom, though. < 1462576164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antgrid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46960&oldid=46959 5* 03Moon 5* (+161) 10oops! i forgot something! < 1462576190 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this was previously discussed < 1462576209 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe at that time the Laver tables were not in there yet:) < 1462576288 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see this comment: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725#comment-1086714 < 1462576317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antgrid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46961&oldid=46960 5* 03Moon 5* (+14) 10 < 1462576344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antgrid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46962&oldid=46961 5* 03Moon 5* (+1) 10 < 1462576362 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: There's a "preview" function. < 1462576373 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to make a habit of useing it >_> < 1462576479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antgrid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46963&oldid=46962 5* 03Moon 5* (+1) 10 < 1462576620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: that's p. neat < 1462576857 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering how best to compute laver tables in lambda calculus... < 1462576904 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular the map i -> (i+1) mod 2^n < 1462576974 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe using church numerals and lookup in a list... < 1462577003 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462577164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antgrid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46964&oldid=46963 5* 03Moon 5* (-14) 10 < 1462577216 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :antgrid is not your normal 2d esolang, its the program that is 2d, not the memory < 1462577269 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462577340 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: so? piet also has only the code space 2d, not the data. < 1462577410 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1462577415 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many others do? < 1462577491 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge to some extent, COMPLEX < 1462577501 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(COMPLEX to a different extent) < 1462577656 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wierd is stack + two-dimensional source, akin to Befunge. < 1462577715 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2L has two-dimensional code, and a Brainfuck-style tape for data. < 1462577747 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATH is maybe even closer. < 1462577776 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Incidentally, you could steal a nice formatting for a command list from the PATH article.) < 1462577842 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainloller/Braincopter as well. < 1462578003 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNUSP's kind of a PATH derivative. < 1462578036 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "bloated SNUSP" variant turns the data tape into a plane, but the others have a tape.) < 1462578164 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's that two-dimensional language that has no data space, only an unbound instruction counter… I dunno what that counts. < 1462578240 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a intresting one: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Langar.io < 1462578242 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to Befunge's influence, there's no shortage of the "two-dimensional source + a stack" types, either with or without access to the source code space. < 1462578264 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but befunge has a two-dimensional data space apart from the stack, right? < 1462578277 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be the "with access to the source code space" part. < 1462578280 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ell i haven't checked out befunge, i didnt know it was 2d < 1462578292 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i came up with antgrid on my own < 1462578341 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also ><>, iirc... < 1462578352 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :><> and Swordfish. < 1462578380 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: good, now you should study popular esolangs before you invent the next one then < 1462578468 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: at least learn about the classic ones like unlambda, intercal, befunge, underload, Piet, brainfuck (eww… I didn't say you have to like it, just learn about it), Chef, ... what important ones am I forgetting < 1462578503 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you mean to put the parentheses 4 items to the left? :P < 1462578503 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Mouse? < 1462578517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: um, where? < 1462578526 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :intercal? :P < 1462578530 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ones you listed are a good choice probably. < 1462578545 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone will have their own list. Mine would have Thue and/or /// on it. < 1462578560 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, good idea < 1462578597 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, which idea? < 1462578602 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Malbolge's pretty famous as well, as an example of the "intentionally difficult" genre. < 1462578604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a string replacement language should be mentioned, especially since variants of them are popularized by the masters Knuth and Chomsky < 1462578617 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Apparently I look like you. < 1462578622 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sorry < 1462578625 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean fizzie < 1462578662 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I have an image of you in my head, the accuracy of which I'm unsure of < 1462578666 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:79ff:5cba:fe78:b8a5 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462578681 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... a little like me? In the sense we're both skinny and white, but that's about it < 1462578700 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I for one quite like untyped pointer machines with goto and immutable values on the heap, but I can't say they're historically important. < 1462578738 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, don't forget fractran (counter machines with unbounded counter registers). Those are very popular (I can't say I like them though) < 1462578746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And turing-machines of course. < 1462578817 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try looking at random stuff too. Some of them are not as good but you can look anyways to see more kind of thing, there is also list of ideas to look at too < 1462578830 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's some other esolangs I dislike, and even one I hate, but they're not as important so I won't mention them here.) < 1462578845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462578846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1462578867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Hi < 1462578876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1462578888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo:( < 1462578889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1462578930 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone look at Laconic in more detail? We should add something more to its entry about what sort of language it is, not just about the goal it serves. < 1462578938 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm not all that skinny any more, but sickly white, sure. I guess the coin leaves something to the imagination. < 1462578951 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :hhiikns < 1462578957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, does it have algebraic types with mutable cells? Or only immutable cells? Or even no algebraic types? < 1462579027 0 :hhiikns!?@? NICK :snkiihh < 1462579050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I did something worthy of congratulation! < 1462579050 0 :snkiihh!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1462579100 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :deny < 1462579102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462579182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462579183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ !\.´ \ 99 \ 99bb \ advice \ alrus \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle \ oerjan \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ sh < 1462579188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat oerjan < 1462579188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm oerjan < 1462579193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all the junk in hackenv < 1462579195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is ridiculous < 1462579209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F < 1462579210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ !\.´* \ 99 \ 99bb* \ advice/ \ alrus \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ bin/ \ canary* \ cat \ cdescs/ \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D* \ dog \ emoticons/ \ equations \ esobible/ \ etc/ \ Eternity* \ evil/ \ factor/ \ foo* \ good/ \ hia* \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ ls_dev \ marsha \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes < 1462579211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :people experimenting hth < 1462579222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat marsha < 1462579228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat marsha < 1462579229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm marsha < 1462579239 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about cleaning that up < 1462579260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i resigned that job the other day hth < 1462579273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-( < 1462579275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☹ < 1462579283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's old < 1462579286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log ':-(' | grep summary: < 1462579294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` echo \xe2\x98\xb9 > "./:-(" < 1462579300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm :-( < 1462579303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat !\.`* < 1462579311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: !\.`*: No such file or directory < 1462579321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat !\.´* < 1462579322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: !\.´*: No such file or directory < 1462579331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway that one was mine so it can stay < 1462579333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 99 < 1462579333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b=bottle a=({no+more+$b\s,1+$b,{2..99}+$b\s}+of+beer) w=on+the+wall \ x=(Take+one+down,+pass+it+around Go+to+the+store+and+buy+some+more) \ for i in {99..0};{ \ echo "${a[i]^} $w, ${a[i]}. \ ${x[!i]}, ${a[i-1]} $w." \ }|tr + \ < 1462579337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir junk < 1462579338 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv 99 junk/ < 1462579341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!!!! < 1462579343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `99 junk/' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462579363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that no about creating more junk < 1462579380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's no about creating new directories for things we already have places for < 1462579388 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the place twh < 1462579391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir junk < 1462579391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1462579394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf \ bob.c \ brainfuck.fu \ c \ ciol \ daoyu.c \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm < 1462579400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was just going to put everything in junk/ < 1462579406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then let other people put it where they want < 1462579410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462579418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir junk < 1462579419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv 99 junk/ < 1462579423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462579429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ 99bb \ advice \ alrus \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ junk \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls_dev \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share \ Something.c \ sr < 1462579432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1462579436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat 99bb < 1462579437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>......@.....@.......è ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....À.......À............................@......@............................................@.......@.....l......l........ ............p......p`.....p`.....8......@........ ...........ˆ......ˆ`.....ˆ`.....à.......à................ < 1462579440 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv 99bb junk/ < 1462579443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat alrus < 1462579446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm alrus < 1462579458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i just reverted someone's creation of jnk/ the other day. < 1462579463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bdsmreclist junk/ < 1462579467 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat BGTV9E93 < 1462579471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include < 1462579479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv BGTV9E93 junk/ < 1462579481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat advice < 1462579483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/bdsmreclist < 1462579483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: advice: Is a directory < 1462579485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ YOU are out of order. < 1462579493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F < 1462579494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´* \ advice/ \ bin/ \ canary* \ cat \ cdescs/ \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D* \ dog \ emoticons/ \ equations \ esobible/ \ etc/ \ Eternity* \ evil/ \ factor/ \ foo* \ good/ \ hia* \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ junk/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ ls_dev \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share/ \ Something.c \ src/ \ templates < 1462579499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1462579511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you object to what i'm doing < 1462579525 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I've worked out I was basing my mental image of you on your github profile pick < 1462579531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very strongly hth < 1462579532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv Complaints.mp3 share/ < 1462579536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no! < 1462579536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, stop. < 1462579540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1462579547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that's what share/ was for? < 1462579552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1462579564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but there's a binary referring to that file. < 1462579570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I was going to fix that next. < 1462579573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or two. < 1462579590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, everything has to be an atomic operation now? < 1462579593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, I'll stop. < 1462579611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. < 1462579615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you cannot `revert file creations properly. i assume that includes moves. < 1462579624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just asking for a bit care hth < 1462579631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I already checked that in /msg < 1462579635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain shachaf isn't atomic < 1462579639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1462579650 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Mm. Well, it's a bit old. (2004, that is.) < 1462579652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what's with all the "no!"s. < 1462579661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to discourage taking initiative here? < 1462579671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls junk < 1462579674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 < 1462579680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess it worked < 1462579700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little hostile. < 1462579708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just a visceral reaction after all the time i've spent trying to keep things in order. hard habit to break. < 1462579710 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, compared to that photo, I have shorter, darker hair, a smaller nose, slightly pointier ears, less chin, and more lip and neck I think < 1462579716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm cleaning up! < 1462579724 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just said you resigned that job. < 1462579749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your new job yelling at kids to get off your hackenv lawn? < 1462579764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, note that checking whether a `revert works is _also_ unreliable. a broken `revert makes the actual directory and the repository out of sync for a revision or so. < 1462579776 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xuseilpifveteqpu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462579778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1462579782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462579803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1462579807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes shachaf is trolling about that < 1462579809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a reliable way of checking? < 1462579817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, I don't know how this works. < 1462579821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you cannot remove canary. < 1462579829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch test < 1462579832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Obfuscated Tiny C14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46965 5* 03B jonas 5* (+952) 10Created page with "'''Obfuscated Tiny C''' is a small subset of the C programming language created by Fabrice Bellard, published in 2001. The goal is to be able to compile the language with a s..." < 1462579833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought removing it reset things to a known state or something? < 1462579835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579838 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1462579838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1462579841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*tsjørp* < 1462579842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462579844 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462579850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls junk < 1462579851 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 < 1462579860 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l canary < 1462579860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls {share/,}Complaints.mp3 < 1462579860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Obfuscated Tiny C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46966&oldid=46965 5* 03B jonas 5* (+39) 10 < 1462579867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1462579867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access share/Complaints.mp3: No such file or directory \ Complaints.mp3 < 1462579872 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462579875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway i think your revert actually _did_ work. i'm not entirely sure what the rules are. < 1462579875 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1462579877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 10 May 6 23:09 canary < 1462579878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46967&oldid=46743 5* 03B jonas 5* (-101) 10 < 1462579889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: None of us are sure, but some of us feel sure enough to yell at others. < 1462579893 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait so what's the deal with canary < 1462579897 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing the canary just skips committing the change, IIRC. < 1462579921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Every command is *supposed* to run in a fresh checkout.) < 1462579963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will try to assume shachaf knows what he's doing for a while. that is also hard with what all the other people keep doing to HackEgo  < 1462579969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to ignoerjan until shachaf: ok, stop. < 1462579975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I've stopped. < 1462579992 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a new picture of fizzie < 1462579996 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what average colour is it < 1462580057 0 :deny!?@? NICK :ybden < 1462580087 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any good recent images, except the coin. < 1462580102 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :coin? < 1462580132 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I had a friend photograph things at the thesis defence afterparty, maybe there'll be at least one decent photo there. < 1462580179 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1462580181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1462580186 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the coin. < 1462580247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious about the coin but not enough to download a file. < 1462580257 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :data:text/html, < 1462580268 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever. < 1462580272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, zzo38! < 1462580274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a hero. < 1462580289 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also in the wisdom pdf, if your browser opens that inline. < 1462580308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, go ahead. < 1462580326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1462580328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F < 1462580329 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´* \ advice/ \ bin/ \ canary* \ cat \ cdescs/ \ Complaints.mp3 \ :-D* \ dog \ emoticons/ \ equations \ esobible/ \ etc/ \ Eternity* \ evil/ \ factor/ \ foo* \ good/ \ hia* \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ junk/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ ls_dev \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share/ \ Something.c \ src/ \ templates < 1462580389 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck does ls -F do < 1462580401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: adds file types, i think < 1462580410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for not catting binary files < 1462580419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and seeing directories < 1462580426 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but catting binaries is half the fun of hackego < 1462580429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv Complaints.mp3 share/; for f in $(rgrep -l Complaints) bin; do sed -i 's#Complaints#share/Complaints' "$f"; done < 1462580430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly the latter < 1462580448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: shachaf is one of the main people disagreeing with that theory, i believe < 1462580455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls --color < 1462580479 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously we need a utility turning terminal colour codes into irc ones < 1462580486 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462580488 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1462580504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think it's stalled trying to run some terminal code lookup < 1462580509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cat \ cdescs \ :-D \ dog \ emoticons \ equations \ esobible \ etc \ Eternity \ evil \ factor \ foo \ good \ hia \ hw \ < 1462580524 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it works great. < 1462580532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, there should be a < /dev/null in HackEgo's command execution to prevent this stuff. < 1462580546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh < 1462580555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1462580558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc: Complaints.mp3: No such file or directory < 1462580567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1462580579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in $(rgrep -l Complaints) bin; do sed -i 's#Complaints#share/Complaints#' "$f"; done < 1462580584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1462580591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in $(rgrep -l Complaints bin); do sed -i 's#Complaints#share/Complaints#' "$f"; done < 1462580630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is HackEgo frozen again. < 1462580632 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@host-137-205-1-178.warwick.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1462580633 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@host-137-205-1-178.warwick.ac.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1462580633 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462580640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1462580653 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes a while to grep thorough everything in bin, I presume. < 1462580661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` du -sh bin < 1462580680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 share/Complaints.mp3 < 1462580685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16M bin < 1462580714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain The "complaints" command now shows a superfluous directory name. < 1462580718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1462580728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The .mp3 is fluous itself, of course. < 1462580732 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-D < 1462580735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☺ < 1462580739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv ':-D' junk < 1462580743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1462580745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ >^.^< < 1462580748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv cat junk < 1462580750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1462580750 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `cat junk' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462580751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1462580755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv cat junk < 1462580758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm dog < 1462580762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat equations < 1462580766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^x \ |x|^x < 1462580772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv equations junk < 1462580775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F < 1462580775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´* \ advice/ \ bin/ \ canary* \ cdescs/ \ emoticons/ \ esobible/ \ etc/ \ Eternity* \ evil/ \ factor/ \ foo* \ good/ \ hia* \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ junk/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ ls_dev \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share/ \ Something.c \ src/ \ templates/ \ test \ theorems/ \ tmflry/ \ wisdom/ \ wisdo < 1462580787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Eternity < 1462580788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ while :; do echo 'Loading'; sleep 1; done < 1462580795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv Eternity junk < 1462580796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `Eternity junk' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462580805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :``mv Eternity junk < 1462580806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `mv: not found < 1462580813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv Eternity junk/ < 1462580816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file foo hia < 1462580818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo: ASCII text \ hia: ASCII text < 1462580823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv {junk,bin}/Eternity # Technically an esolang < 1462580828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a page, even. < 1462580843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv {bin,ibin}/Eternity < 1462580855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '' foo hia < 1462580857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo:foo \ hia::(){ :|: & };: < 1462580864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv foo hia junk/ < 1462580868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462580885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1462580891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462580904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you actually move it to ibin < 1462580908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462580911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462580939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it belongs there < 1462580943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep karma bin < 1462580945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with HackEgo so slow it is very hard to see whether those are fake or not < 1462580947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah. < 1462580950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/karma+:echo "$1 now has $(($(lib/karma "$1")+1)) karma." | tee karma \ bin/karma-:touch karma \ bin/karma-:echo "$1 now has $(($(lib/karma "$1")-1)) karma." \ bin/pastekarma:cd karma \ bin/karma:echo "$1 has $(lib/karma "$1") karma." < 1462580966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of want to delete the whole thing < 1462580975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log 'bin/karma+' | grep summary: < 1462580981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: Initial import. < 1462581000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits karma < 1462581005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd Elronnd oerjan elliott Bike guestbot ais523 ais523 oerjan oerjan elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull elliott nitia < 1462581007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Goruby14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46968 5* 03B jonas 5* (+487) 10Created page with "'''goruby''' is a modification of the ruby programming language to make it somewhat more suitable to code golf. It is implemented by the files goruby.c and golf_prelude.c whi..." < 1462581014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thitia < 1462581035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46969&oldid=46967 5* 03B jonas 5* (-32) 10 < 1462581040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -F | tail -n+15 < 1462581042 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ ls_dev \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes \ ReUariBw \ share/ \ Something.c \ src/ \ templates/ \ test \ theorems/ \ tmflry/ \ wisdom/ \ wisdom.pdf < 1462581049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wisdom.pdf doing there < 1462581051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Something.c < 1462581052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include < 1462581057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv Something.C junk/ < 1462581058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `Something.C junk/' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462581073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one would think i'd learn eventually < 1462581080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv Something.c junk/ < 1462581082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm pretty sure karma has had major redesign recently. < 1462581083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462581084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ReUariBw < 1462581086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) { < 1462581102 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now the accounting equation in wisdom.pdf is fixed. (It used to be slightly wrong) < 1462581105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv ReUariBw junk/ < 1462581107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462581108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom.pdf < 1462581108 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone (possibly me) should make a script that traverses the languages category of the wiki and compiles the language list automatically < 1462581112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Roujo < 1462581120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat ls_dev < 1462581121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agpgart \ audio \ audio1 \ audio2 \ audio3 \ audioctl \ console \ core \ dsp \ dsp1 \ dsp2 \ dsp3 \ fd \ full \ kmem \ loop0 \ loop1 \ loop2 \ loop3 \ loop4 \ loop5 \ loop6 \ loop7 \ mem \ midi0 \ midi00 \ midi01 \ midi02 \ midi03 \ midi1 \ midi2 \ midi3 \ mixer \ mixer1 \ mixer2 \ mixer3 \ mpu401data \ mpu401stat \ null \ port \ ptmx \ pts \ ram \ < 1462581137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log ls_dev | grep summary: < 1462581141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` ls /dev > ls_dev < 1462581143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv ls_dev junk/ < 1462581146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462581148 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462581155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -F | tail -n+10 < 1462581157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor/ \ good/ \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ junk/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes \ share/ \ src/ \ templates/ \ test \ theorems/ \ tmflry/ \ wisdom/ \ wisdom.pdf < 1462581157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46970&oldid=46900 5* 03B jonas 5* (+57) 10 < 1462581162 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't remember doing that at all... < 1462581193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it stand for "zygomorphism grep"? < 1462581207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits templates < 1462581212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ moon_ < 1462581219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r junk/ls_dev < 1462581222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462581229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: i'll assume it's not needed, then. < 1462581241 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not needed at all. < 1462581243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks rather irrelevant for HackEgo < 1462581259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls templates < 1462581261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolanginterptemp-ciol- \ termwrapperOut < 1462581267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '' templates/* < 1462581268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :templates/esolanginterptemp-ciol-:#include < 1462581277 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... I think it might've been when I was trying to find out more about hackego before I discovered the repository. < 1462581288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat templates/termwrapperOut < 1462581289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd='echo Hi!' sh -c 'eval $cmd' < 1462581295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1462581296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf \ bob.c \ brainfuck.fu \ c \ ciol \ daoyu.c \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm < 1462581300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't my grep work < 1462581301 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There are a number of languages on the language list that are not in the category, and vice versa. There's also the joke language list, and (arguably) elements of that should still have Category:Language but not be on the main language list. < 1462581302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src/ciol < 1462581303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloworld.ciol < 1462581315 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It gzipped away. < 1462581321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv templates/eso* src/ciol.c < 1462581324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462581327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list of languages that aren't in any lists < 1462581337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's where it belongs, and someone already said so < 1462581339 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've looked at their intersection and set differences every now and then.) < 1462581344 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/list/set/g < 1462581363 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's already a list of every page in the category, namely the category page. < 1462581397 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im challangeing you all to a code inflation challange, get the largest program optimal program that prints the fibbernoaci sequence possiblr < 1462581413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: notes that the language list doesn't always agree with the article technical name, when weird chars are involved. < 1462581426 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: How would you define "largest optimal". < 1462581452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i challenge you to a not challenging people to contests contest < 1462581465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're even right now < 1462581466 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, however you define it < 1462581476 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's evil. < 1462581487 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or very unfair, at any rate. < 1462581510 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we can define a template that gives the alternate name and add them in those languages, or something < 1462581543 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better, put the language name as the sort key in a category entry in that page < 1462581550 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The largest program that is the smalleat it can be in a language, basically language serfing < 1462581555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why didn't my grep work <-- the first file is copied from Windows, and contains \r which HackEgo has started cutting off at < 1462581563 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like we can'd add exceptions, but still, auto-generating the list would help and let us uncover lots of lost languages < 1462581565 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda the opposite of code golf < 1462581584 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one language is also on the language list twice -- once in the right place and once mis-sorted. < 1462581587 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we'll also need a root category for pages we want to exclude even if they're reachable from Languages, such as joke languages) < 1462581591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: HackEgo cuts off at \r? that explains multiple behavior i've seen thx tdh hth hand hug < 1462581596 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm < 1462581608 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: BigBrother is watching you < 1462581612 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not *lost*, you see them by looking at what's in the category. < 1462581614 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I knew some entries were mis-sorted, but I didn't know any were duped < 1462581627 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hug < 1462581630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462581632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I've been duped myself. < 1462581634 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: IIRC, only one. < 1462581635 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but the category has to be listed recursively, because not all langs are directly in it < 1462581670 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAll languages are supposed to be directly in it, or that was my understanding. < 1462581682 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can even keep the manual list if you want, or even in the extreme, not generate an automatic list at all, but only a list of languages missing from the manual apge < 1462581693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Or very unfair, at any rate. <-- i say it's perfectly fair hth < 1462581786 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe they should, but I don't think they all are < 1462581805 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I wouldn't mind only having an automatic list. But everything currently on the list should be on the automatic one. < 1462581806 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if they should, then an automatic tool might help find the pages that aren't < 1462581832 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ideally, I wish we just put all non-languages to an appendix namespace, so that all pages in the main namespace are languages < 1462581856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't happen, either for historical reasons or because ais doesn't want it < 1462581859 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Category:Languages (this should be present in all languages, --" < 1462581899 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, but you know, it isn't automated. I think I created language pages without adding that category, because I didn't think we had such crazy manual methods on a wiki made by mainly programmers. < 1462581933 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try writing the automator (I've done a little mediawiki stuff already) if I have time (so don't count on it) < 1462581951 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My shortest helloworld:(blank). Written in metagolfscript-moonmoonsrandomid93847482074 < 1462581983 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there are also a number of legitimately lost languages that are not on the list nor in the category. < 1462581988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: i think Unary is a good language for your challenge hth < 1462581997 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1462582054 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh lord < 1462582088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fetches something to wipe up Moon_'s exploded brain < 1462582138 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is something wrong with the kernel that causes problems with its interaction with the printer. < 1462582142 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will very happily make something worse < 1462582160 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which module do I need to disable so that it can be in use properly? < 1462582188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few more explosions and you'll be ready to start learning Haskell < 1462582227 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has already put research into learning it < 1462582238 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to wait < 1462582717 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462582832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly realizes Moon_ has learned to use /me < 1462583076 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes it was inevitable (see df wiki) < 1462583245 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agagagagagag < 1462583247 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a quine < 1462583255 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1462583262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not very familar with df < 1462583262 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ment cgcgcgcgcgcg < 1462583284 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quine is wrote in http://esolangs.org/wiki/DNA-Sharp < 1462583288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about a language where you encode BB(n) in unary to encode the Unary program n hth < 1462583290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite "everyone" else here playing it a few years ago < 1462583326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well that's the obvious next step which i didn't bother to mention of course < 1462583392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls wondering yesterday or so if there was something that was to BB like Ackermann is to exponentiation < 1462583403 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rwhat would be a good way to compare values in ciol?; < 1462583404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be a good way to compare values in ciol? < 1462583567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looked at the df wiki main page (and on a hunch, its talk page) and still does not understand what Moon_ meant < 1462583678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries a google and gets to Acronyms < 1462583814 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'it was inevitable' is a refernence to how npcs overuse the phrase (well, used to) < 1462583819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1462583838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just getting to Template:D for dwarf, which is the best i could find. < 1462583841 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like by overused, they even used it incorrectly sometimes < 1462583893 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :npc1: 'I show no fear in the face of battle' npc1: 'it was inevitable < 1462584091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that is incorrect, given a matching life philosophy < 1462584113 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.- < 1462584116 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462584118 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1462584121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ junk \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ templates \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1462584122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ bin \ blame \ bla < 1462584140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: we've been cleaning up a bit. missing anything? < 1462584151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/we/shachaf/g, mostly < 1462584168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/g?! < 1462584191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well you've done a lot of cleaning < 1462584195 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a good thing your cleaning up < 1462584227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to delete templates/ < 1462584239 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the stuff in it to src < 1462584244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well there's only one thing left there, and it's not very good < 1462584258 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or outright remove it < 1462584273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r junk/templates < 1462584276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `junk/templates': No such file or directory < 1462584284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you didn't move that < 1462584289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -r templates < 1462584292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584316 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hidden Deathlace {-} Conspiracy ;; Hidden agenda ;; Nonbasic objects with the chosen name are black. (There is then four more similar cards for blue, white, green, red) < 1462584325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like there's a bunch of other junk that can be removed. < 1462584327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -F < 1462584328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´* \ advice/ \ bin/ \ canary* \ cdescs/ \ emoticons/ \ esobible/ \ etc/ \ evil/ \ factor/ \ good/ \ hw/ \ ibin/ \ interps/ \ junk/ \ karma \ le/ \ lib/ \ misle/ \ paste/ \ ply-3.8/ \ quine \ quines/ \ quotes \ share/ \ src/ \ test \ theorems/ \ tmflry/ \ wisdom/ \ wisdom.pdf < 1462584345 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin < 1462584346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin < 1462584348 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1462584353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462584355 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the files < 1462584366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would even include esobible and tmflry and misle. < 1462584368 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the url system is better < 1462584371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1462584372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1462584376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/\r//g' junk/ciol.c < 1462584383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read junk/ciol.c: No such file or directory < 1462584389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/\r//g' src/ciol.c < 1462584390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \ \ #include \ #include \ #include \ #include \ // initialize the tape with 30,000 zeroes \ unsigned long long int tape[30000] = {0}; \ unsigned long long int registrar[3] = {0}; // R1, R2, and R3 \ // set the pointer to point at the left-most cell of the tape \ < 1462584393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1462584400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\r//g' src/ciol.c < 1462584403 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584403 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont delete the ciol command src < 1462584410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/ciol.c < 1462584411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \ \ #include \ #include \ #include \ #include \ // initialize the tape with 30,000 zeroes \ unsigned long long int tape[30000] = {0}; \ unsigned long long int registrar[3] = {0}; // R1, R2, and R3 \ // set the pointer to point at the left-most cell of the tape \ < 1462584421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: i'm just converting the file to unix format < 1462584424 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462584428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because HackEgo kept cutting it off < 1462584458 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not make a dos2unix command? < 1462584461 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix < 1462584463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dos2unix: not found < 1462584495 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like these kind of "hidden *lace" cards? < 1462584547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/dos2unix//sed -i 's/\r//g' "$@" < 1462584550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dos2unix < 1462584553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not indeed < 1462584569 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read in a old book about "dos2unix" and "unix2dos" command in UNIX systems, although it is not installed by default on these new systems (although it is in the package manager). My "utftovlq" program can do both of these things too though. < 1462584610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there is dos2unix on the server i'm irc'ing from < 1462584616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wasn't in HackEgo < 1462584618 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help < 1462584630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if \r is the only issue these days. < 1462584659 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i can make updates to my CIOL intepreter *doubt* unix compatable < 1462584677 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro error 404: moon not found < 1462584679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04 error 404: moon not found < 1462584722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/dos2unix//sed -i 's/\r//g' -- "$@" < 1462584724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dos2unix < 1462584741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls junk < 1462584742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ cat \ :-D \ equations \ foo \ hia \ ReUariBw \ Something.c < 1462584754 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm junk/Something.c < 1462584754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/Something.c < 1462584756 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its mine < 1462584758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include < 1462584759 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can remove it < 1462584759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was just going to use it to test dos2unix :P < 1462584773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there are others < 1462584775 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1462584781 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically "utftovlq 88L" will convert CRLF line endings to LF only; "tr -d \\r" will do it too, although there is a slight difference if input contains CR without LF. < 1462584791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/BGTV9E93 < 1462584793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include < 1462584801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix junk/BGTV9E93 < 1462584801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does 88L mean? < 1462584804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/BGTV9E93 < 1462584812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \ \ #include \ #include \ #include \ #include \ // initialize the tape with 30,000 zeroes \ unsigned long long int tape[30000] = {0}; \ unsigned long long int registrar[3] = {0}; // R1, R2, and R3 \ // set the pointer to point at the left-most cell of the tape \ < 1462584817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks good < 1462584838 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The first 8 means the input format is 8-bit, the second 8 means the output format is 8-bit, and the L means to enable conversion of line endings to LF only. < 1462584849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it doesn't do any checks for binaries, so don't use them on anything that isn't text < 1462584856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1462584857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other bittiness is supported? < 1462584888 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To do the reverse conversion, use "utftovlq 88cL", where c means to prepend CR to each LF) < 1462584925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls emoticons < 1462584927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drowning \ flipbird \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ swatter \ useless < 1462584938 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls junk < 1462584939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 \ 99bb \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ cat \ :-D \ equations \ foo \ hia \ ReUariBw < 1462584953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv junk/:-D emoticons < 1462584953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/:-D < 1462584959 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: w is small-endian 16-bits, W is big-endian 16-bits, d is small-endian 32-bits, D is big-endian 32-bits, q is small-endian 64-bits, Q is big-endian 64-bits, 1 or 0 is UTF-8, V is big-endian VLQ-8, v is small-endian VLQ-8, u is small-endian UTF-16, U is big-endian UTF-16. < 1462584966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462584967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: junk/:-D: No such file or directory < 1462584982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/cat < 1462584983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ >^.^< < 1462584984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: foiled again < 1462584995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Those are the other formats which are supported. < 1462584997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv junk/cat emoticons < 1462585000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462585001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed ':-(' | grep summary: < 1462585006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is VLQ? < 1462585006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i figure that's a good place for them < 1462585010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: rm :-( \ summary: ` echo \xe2\x98\xb9 > "./:-(" < 1462585022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i guess you can undo that one < 1462585037 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLQ is the format used for time deltas in standard MIDI files (it is the big-endian format). < 1462585037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my font on the computer I did that on didn't support that character. Or something. < 1462585058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv junk/99 src/99.sh < 1462585061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462585083 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you all want on cleanup terms, ill help < 1462585102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls junk/........ < 1462585104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access junk/........: No such file or directory < 1462585109 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls junk < 1462585111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls junk/???????? < 1462585112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk/BGTV9E93 \ junk/ReUariBw < 1462585112 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls junk < 1462585113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99bb \ bdsmreclist \ BGTV9E93 \ equations \ foo \ hia \ ReUariBw < 1462585120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: do you need either of those two < 1462585126 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462585132 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pastebin codes < 1462585140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they're just versions of ciol < 1462585145 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check < 1462585151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/ReUariBw < 1462585153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) { < 1462585155 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462585162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you need something, HackEgo would be a very bad place to put it hth < 1462585176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dos2unix junk/ReUariBw; cat junk/ReUariBw < 1462585178 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix junk/ReUariB < 1462585179 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix junk/ReUariBw < 1462585180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) { \ int words = countwords(argv[1]); \ char english[80], piglatin[80]; \ initialize(english, piglatin); \ words = countwords(english); \ \ /* Now Pig Latin Translator in C converts English to Pig Latin */ \ convert(words, english, piglatin); \ writeoutput(piglatin); \ } < 1462585183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462585183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read junk/ReUariB: No such file or directory < 1462585186 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462585194 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my failed piglatin translater lol < 1462585216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well just on the principle that it's nice to have code for compiled things in bin/ < 1462585224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm junk/???????? < 1462585227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462585228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take that as a no < 1462585241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just require all programs to have a quine mode hth < 1462585246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: heh < 1462585256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've overhthing < 1462585258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm < 1462585280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that reminds me of the times i've been `ls'ing quines/ and thinking "wait, only binaries? they should inclu... oh wait." < 1462585296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls quines < 1462585297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c \ cat \ ciol \ perl \ python \ q \ ruby \ slashes < 1462585315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/ruby < 1462585316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462585324 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -F quines < 1462585325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c* \ cat* \ ciol \ perl \ python \ q* \ ruby \ slashes < 1462585335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462585341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of _those_ languages. < 1462585347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l quines < 1462585348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l quines/ruby < 1462585351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 24 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 7292 Dec 9 04:13 c \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 0 Dec 9 04:13 cat \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 51 May 3 23:10 ciol \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 9 04:13 perl \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 9 04:13 python \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 6507 Dec 9 04:13 q \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 9 04:13 ruby \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 1497 Dec < 1462585352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 9 04:13 quines/ruby < 1462585358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1462585365 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462585366 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04 You < 1462585369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think it helps perfectly < 1462585375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1462585384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was going to do a joke thing and it doesn't work now < 1462585389 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462585390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04 You have discovered an eerie caven. The air above the dark stone floor is alive with vorices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottomless glowing pit mark the surface. < 1462585420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: hey are you editing hackenv on the side < 1462585428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a little rude < 1462585448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1462585476 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits hfs < 1462585486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462585492 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/hfs < 1462585498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ moon__ < 1462585501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost always put my edits in the channel < 1462585517 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems pretty rude to me to do otherwise < 1462585538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mostly agrees with shachaf although can see the other point < 1462585554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's slightly less so when you "own" a file. < 1462585588 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/hfs < 1462585590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hfs: ASCII text < 1462585594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hfs < 1462585595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erro "You have discovered an eerie caven. The air above the dark stone floor is alive with vorices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottomless glowing pit mark the surface." < 1462585603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's erro < 1462585605 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it would be a bit rude to make a bunch of stuff and never tell anyone but it's equally annoying having people fumble around in the channel when they could use privmsg < 1462585611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/erro < 1462585613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/erro: ASCII text < 1462585620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/erro < 1462585621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e '\000304' "$1" < 1462585628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1462585669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/erro//echo -e '\000304'"$1" < 1462585673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/erro < 1462585678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get rid of that initial space < 1462585686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462585687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie caven. The air above the dark stone floor is alive with vorices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottomless glowing pit mark the surface. < 1462585740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it depends a _lot_ on whether they're just fumbling around with their own stuff or messing up things < 1462585743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, I fumble around a lot in /msg, but I mutate in the channel. < 1462585752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can also use /msg for pranks, of course. < 1462585782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/haskell < 1462585783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show" < 1462585836 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1462585845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that file must have been statically linked back when HackEgo had ghc... < 1462585864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i compiled it by hand and uploaded it just now < 1462585868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh < 1462585880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this prank isn't working out at all < 1462585882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/haskell < 1462585884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"' < 1462585890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462585903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels weirdly satisfied < 1462585907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've left it in there for you to find out years later. < 1462585920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1462585955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you _might_ be able to actually upload a binary. although i guess you need an old enough version of linux... < 1462585968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with compiling it to sh by hand? < 1462585974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1462585987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I might go ahead and do this for all the other quines. < 1462585997 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1462586006 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make them execute? < 1462586015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the bit where oerjan tells me not to push it < 1462586022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't HackEgo have GHC, anyway? < 1462586032 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people say a server move < 1462586036 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to `fetch it. < 1462586043 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch it < 1462586043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a pretty big thing to put in the repository. < 1462586045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Gregor didn't bother to reinstall it when he moved HackEgo < 1462586054 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch it friend < 1462586074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, with HackEgo's current speed you'll probably never get anything compiled. < 1462586113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _am_ wondering if there are any leftover haskell binaries in bin though... < 1462586118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they still work. < 1462586139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i briefly thought fueue was one, but i think that's actually koen_'s C version < 1462586148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh emmental < 1462586155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be haskell < 1462586169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/emmental < 1462586172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emmental: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0x1dc625bf76c96f89951ecd418274d1eafd282487, not stripped < 1462586245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` emmental <<<(cat src/underload.emm; echo '(:aSS)aSS') < 1462586246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `emmental <<<(cat src/underload.emm; echo '(:aSS)aSS')' < 1462586250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462586282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the syntax for that again < 1462586283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462586357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` emmental <(cat src/underload.emm; echo '(:aSS)aSS') < 1462586358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emmental: error while loading shared libraries: libgmp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory \ cat: src/underload.emm: No such file or directory < 1462586365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1462586376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, not static enough < 1462586468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the server move really happen after i made underload.emm... < 1462586478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :time flies. < 1462586514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible there was a second move with that cloudatcost thing. < 1462586565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if that removed libgmp.so.3, that may have broken it < 1462586620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /lib/libgmp* < 1462586622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /lib/libgmp*: No such file or directory < 1462586636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /lib/ < 1462586637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpp \ i386-linux-gnu \ init \ libcfont.so.0 \ libcfont.so.0.0.0 \ libconsole.so.0 \ libconsole.so.0.0.0 \ libctutils.so.0 \ libctutils.so.0.0.0 \ libip4tc.so.0 \ libip4tc.so.0.1.0 \ libip6tc.so.0 \ libip6tc.so.0.1.0 \ libipq.so.0 \ libipq.so.0.0.0 \ libiptc.so.0 \ libiptc.so.0.0.0 \ libxtables.so.7 \ libxtables.so.7.0.0 \ lsb \ modprobe.d \ systemd < 1462586654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /usr/lib/*gmp* < 1462586656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /usr/lib/*gmp*: No such file or directory < 1462586664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1462586667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls lib < 1462586668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdecl \ c++decl \ dcc \ frink \ frink.jar \ interp \ karma < 1462586756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /lib/*gmp* < 1462586758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /lib/*gmp*: No such file or directory < 1462586764 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462586764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's just not there. < 1462586772 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: hm? < 1462586786 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls /lib/*lib* < 1462586788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/lib/libcfont.so.0 \ /lib/libcfont.so.0.0.0 \ /lib/libconsole.so.0 \ /lib/libconsole.so.0.0.0 \ /lib/libctutils.so.0 \ /lib/libctutils.so.0.0.0 \ /lib/libip4tc.so.0 \ /lib/libip4tc.so.0.1.0 \ /lib/libip6tc.so.0 \ /lib/libip6tc.so.0.1.0 \ /lib/libipq.so.0 \ /lib/libipq.so.0.0.0 \ /lib/libiptc.so.0 \ /lib/libiptc.so.0.0.0 \ /lib/libxtables.so.7 \ < 1462586792 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it works < 1462586798 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking < 1462586804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some stuff there. but seemingly no gmp. < 1462586816 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462586860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it would be useless for new haskell programs, anyway. < 1462586914 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to cleanup? < 1462586920 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin < 1462586921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin < 1462586923 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill go through bin < 1462586953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: um we're not cleaning up bin < 1462586962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's something you added recently < 1462586962 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462586974 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i go through? < 1462586988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls junk < 1462586989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99bb \ bdsmreclist \ equations \ foo \ hia < 1462587003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is sort of the stuff shachaf moved away < 1462587016 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462587038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you made some of that... < 1462587046 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm !\. < 1462587047 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `!\\.': No such file or directory < 1462587051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file junk/99bb < 1462587052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk/99bb: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x5f6d77538aebf1a77d9a9653a43d2e1ff64c5135, not stripped < 1462587058 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1462587063 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone made a unremoveable file < 1462587072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: shachaf made that himself. < 1462587076 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does _nothing_ < 1462587099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: probably its name is not what you think it is. < 1462587110 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1462587115 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm junk/hia < 1462587117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the obvious way of doing it, as well as a favorite trick of shachaf < 1462587117 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats mine < 1462587119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat junk/foo < 1462587141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1462587148 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm !\.` < 1462587149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `!\\.`': No such file or directory < 1462587150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very useful, i think... < 1462587155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm junk/foo < 1462587157 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1462587157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits foo < 1462587163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf fizzie fizzie mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ oerjan ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull nortti_ < 1462587167 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462587184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think foo has existed many times. but i doubt it was ever useful :P < 1462587188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./!\.´ < 1462587189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emergency signal toggled < 1462587195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanckEgo < 1462587198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1462587229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a visual pun < 1462587234 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :share/ is full of code files < 1462587244 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that need moved to src < 1462587255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: hm be careful < 1462587270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: things in share may be referred to from otherwise < 1462587284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1462587284 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv share/maze.c src/maze.c < 1462587285 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello2.c \ hello.c \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ maze.c \ nothp \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ scapegoats \ sedtest \ UnicodeData.txt \ u < 1462587286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1462587286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `share/maze.c src/maze.c' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462587287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello2.c \ hello.c \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ maze.c \ nothp \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ scapegoats \ sedtest \ UnicodeData.txt \ u < 1462587288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1462587295 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv share/maze.c src/maze.c < 1462587298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I can handle this < 1462587317 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462587320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv share/*.c src/*.c < 1462587322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: target `src/u8tbl.c' is not a directory < 1462587322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1462587333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv share/*.c src < 1462587336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1462587340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ nothp \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ scapegoats \ sedtest \ UnicodeData.txt \ units.dat \ usercmds \ WordData < 1462587355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: please don't be so careless < 1462587360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How so? < 1462587365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did I break something? < 1462587369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might overwrite a file in the destination < 1462587373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, true < 1462587379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sorry < 1462587392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat usercmds < 1462587394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: usercmds: No such file or directory < 1462587401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/usercmds < 1462587403 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f: give the data from a file as the argument to a command like bf \ bf: simple brainfuck intepreter, bf brainfuck code < 1462587419 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a help file < 1462587432 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that needs major extensions < 1462587434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat esolangs.txt < 1462587435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: esolangs.txt: No such file or directory < 1462587440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Oh, you started it? < 1462587445 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1462587458 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding other commands to it would be a good ide < 1462587464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/^/^`/' share/usercommands < 1462587465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read share/usercommands: No such file or directory < 1462587466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all're too proactive < 1462587471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/^/^`/' share/usercmds < 1462587474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with shachaf < 1462587474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How so? < 1462587488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask oerjan < 1462587491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How so? < 1462587495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen all, the main point of cleaning up is to keep the top directory of HackEgo readable. < 1462587500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION anticipates oerjan giving the same response < 1462587503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462587505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ cmdutil \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ junk \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1462587511 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its getting better < 1462587514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And? Did we do something wrong? < 1462587535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls theorems < 1462587536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quite < 1462587552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quite: not found < 1462587552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine < 1462587553 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e also need to clean up other directorys for readability < 1462587557 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sorting < 1462587564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: not really < 1462587566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls advice < 1462587567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top one is used all the time < 1462587578 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or its not much of a clean up, its like cleaning the surface of the tile and forgetting the cracks < 1462587582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I `` rm -rf advice < 1462587582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/quine: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ ls: cannot access ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory < 1462587586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bin/ is too huge to be readable anyway < 1462587593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1462587594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `? \ `? `? \ ^ \ == \ \ _̰̆̓_Ì̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋Ì̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ @ \ * \ \ \   \ ⌨ \ ꙮ \ ⊥ \ ☃ \ 🐚 \ 🐐 \ 𝕈 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚Í͎ < 1462587597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1462587602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to the protection < 1462587603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1462587604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^1053793 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1462587617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -id wisdom < 1462587618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1053921 wisdom < 1462587629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 𝕈 < 1462587629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably changed inode again < 1462587631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​𝕈 would be the set of rational numbers, if the Unicode Consortium weren't idiots who put it as ℚ. < 1462587638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it compare by inode < 1462587645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462587647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1462587659 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a file compare command? < 1462587669 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cmp < 1462587669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Git merge-esque? < 1462587670 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmp: missing operand after `cmp' \ cmp: Try `cmp --help' for more information. < 1462587672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/𝕋 < 1462587674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was the simplest way to not care about the exact path used? < 1462587676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587676 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cmp --help < 1462587677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: cmp [OPTION]... FILE1 [FILE2 [SKIP1 [SKIP2]]] \ Compare two files byte by byte. \ \ The optional SKIP1 and SKIP2 specify the number of bytes to skip \ at the beginning of each file (zero by default). \ \ Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too. \ -b, --print-bytes print differing bytes \ -i, --i < 1462587678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462587687 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, there is < 1462587689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: diff < 1462587704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`innocent wisdom/𝕋 < 1462587704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose cmp too < 1462587708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pwd < 1462587711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1462587734 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`merge < 1462587735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merge: not enough arguments \ merge aborted < 1462587741 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`merge -h < 1462587742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merge: unknown option: -h \ merge: not enough arguments \ merge aborted < 1462587744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Do not use commands at random < 1462587745 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`merge --help < 1462587745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: merge [options] receiving-sibling parent other-sibling \ Options: \ -A Use `diff3 -A' style. \ -E Use `diff3 -E' style (default). \ -e Use `diff3 -e' style. \ -p Write to stdout instead of overwriting RECEIVING-SIBLING. \ -q Quiet mode; suppress conflict warnings. \ -LLABEL < 1462587767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/𝕈 < 1462587767 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what rule file says? :P < 1462587771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oren \ oren < 1462587780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/1053793/"$(ls -id /hackenv/wisdom | cut -d' ' -f 1)"/' bin/ls < 1462587781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1462587781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 22: unknown option to `s' < 1462587782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1462587793 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what rules say not to? < 1462587807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/1053793/"$(ls -id \/hackenv\/wisdom | cut -d' ' -f 1)"/' bin/ls < 1462587810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 46: unterminated `s' command < 1462587854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1462587876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's#1053793#"$(ls -id /hackenv/wisdom | cut -d\ -f 1)"#' bin/ls < 1462587880 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1462587887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rules < 1462587917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut: the delimiter must be a single character \ Try `cut --help' for more information. \ cut: the delimiter must be a single character \ Try `cut --help' for more information. \ cut: the delimiter must be a single character \ Try `cut --help' for more information. \ cut: the delimiter must be a single character \ Try `cut --help' for more informati < 1462587917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rules: not found < 1462587925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462587943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 bin/congratulate < 1462587944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers he's retired < 1462587945 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are none hppavilion[1] < 1462587947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett Moon_ tswett Moon__ < 1462587968 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate hppavilion[1] < 1462587969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations fungot, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462587975 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit! < 1462587981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's#-d #-d\\ #' bin/ls < 1462587984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462587987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1462587991 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett!!!! < 1462588000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/𝕈 < 1462588002 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1462588006 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`congratulate hppavilion[1] < 1462588011 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind explaining < 1462588021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 bin/congratulate < 1462588026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462588028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone's prank just worked. < 1462588030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations fungot, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462588043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 bin/congratulate < 1462588046 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/congratulate < 1462588059 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snailcannons tswett* < 1462588064 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get shelled < 1462588071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462588078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1462588079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462588080 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olso... < 1462588081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo congratulations fungot, you are the ruler of the chat! < 1462588083 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𝕈 < 1462588086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot Moon_ fungot Moon__ < 1462588092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go < 1462588094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1D548 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9d 95 88 UTF-16BE: d835dd48 Decimal: 𝕈 \ 𝕈 (𝕈) \ Uppercase: U+1D548 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1462588098 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhh < 1462588106 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were jamming up hackegos buffer < 1462588116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: culprits2 is my new-and-improved version of culprits < 1462588125 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much better is it? < 1462588131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: See for yourself < 1462588136 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits2 < 1462588137 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOAT=`shuf -n1 share/scapegoats`; hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/hppavilion\[1\]/$GOAT/g" | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462588139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, HackEgo is caught up < 1462588165 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1462588171 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you edited out your own name < 1462588174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1462588179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/scapegoats < 1462588180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 \ oerjan \ tswett \ \ fungot < 1462588193 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/erro < 1462588193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apologies to anyone who was alerted by that) < 1462588194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e '\000304'"$1" < 1462588203 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/congratulations < 1462588207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462588227 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/congratulations < 1462588230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462588232 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462588241 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat culprits < 1462588248 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462588248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: culprits: No such file or directory < 1462588256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOAT=`shuf -n1 share/scapegoats`; hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/hppavilion\[1\]/$GOAT/g" | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462588262 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit xD < 1462588266 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo "$(echo -e '\''\000304'\'')$1"' > bin/erro < 1462588266 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :................................................................................................................... < 1462588267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I moved it in PM < 1462588273 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/erro < 1462588276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I moved culprits to bin/innocent) < 1462588277 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e '\000304'"$1" < 1462588284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462588287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so it is retrievable) < 1462588290 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slap hppavilion[1] < 1462588292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slap: not found < 1462588293 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong order, HackEgo. < 1462588295 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588296 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/erro < 1462588296 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slap hppavilion[1] < 1462588297 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slap hppavilion[1] < 1462588297 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slap hppavilion[1] < 1462588297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim moon__ < 1462588297 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slap hppavilion[1] < 1462588299 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588299 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588300 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588300 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588300 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588301 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588301 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588301 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588302 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588302 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maim hppavilion[1] < 1462588303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: No spam < 1462588307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ban moon__ < 1462588311 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1462588325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks around ominously < 1462588333 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fudge < 1462588334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: You're being pretty unpleasant. < 1462588339 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is op *hides* < 1462588361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: You are < 1462588367 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: `ban ki-moon__ < 1462588377 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And HackEgo is stopped now, so my fixing is frozen < 1462588380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462588385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462588394 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry *leaves chat* < 1462588395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also you messed up my HackEgo prank. < 1462588406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we're going to have to wait for a long time until it recovers. < 1462588410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1462588425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `mai- wait, no < 1462588436 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1462588456 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that regestered with hackego >_>\ < 1462588472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ...no it didn't < 1462588476 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have a triva bot? < 1462588487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: That's called `wisdom < 1462588489 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1462588499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were leaving. < 1462588503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Which we can't use right now because of your maimery < 1462588514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `maine? < 1462588540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$(echo -e '\000304')$1" < 1462588540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slap: not found < 1462588546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go... < 1462588564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slap: not found < 1462588581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slap: not found < 1462588581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: slap: not found < 1462588583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run away < 1462588585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*draws their sword* < 1462588586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*draws their sword* < 1462588588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just got fried by jumpercables! < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now where did I leave my jumper cables... < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*draws their sword* < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*grumbles something about a broken hacksaw* < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ban: not found < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just lost an arm! < 1462588589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462588590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just melted off their fingers! < 1462588593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] just lost a leg! < 1462588600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks that maybe, just maybe, HackEgo needs another move. < 1462588604 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK now I have implemented the Yliluoma algorithm. < 1462588613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1462588620 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1462588623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: moon__ is busy maiming me from the past < 1462588625 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not posted yet though) < 1462588643 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example of its use is: ff-reduce y,299,587,114,30,40,3,4 z 080000 201A0B 432817 492910 234309 5D4F1E 9C6B20 A9220F 2B347C 2B7409 D0CA40 E8A077 6A94AB D5C4B3 FCE76E FCFAE2 < 1462588648 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've toggled on a bot to keep us busy for a while (its a bot code im studying for jIRCii) < 1462588660 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try !help < 1462588669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462588670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1462588671 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1462588671 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1462588671 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1462588681 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1462588682 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: zemhill is taken, IIRC < 1462588685 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462588701 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :leme check the readme for the bot < 1462588701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Try using a multi-character prefix < 1462588714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Weren't you using $ yesterday? < 1462588720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, EgoBot also uses !, although it's not here < 1462588746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 wisdom < 1462588750 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression < 1462588758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It does that it seems < 1462588797 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro I'm not sure what the word "erro" is supposed to mean. Is it "error" with the last letter chopped off? < 1462588800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04I'm not sure what the word "erro" is supposed to mean. Is it "error" with the last letter chopped off? < 1462588810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes hth < 1462588811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462588812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462588814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits2 wisdom/itymology < 1462588816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1462588823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits2 < 1462588824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOAT=`shuf -n1 share/scapegoats`; hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/$GOAT/hppavilion[1]/g" | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462588834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't get it < 1462588836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :P < 1462588837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I see what you did < 1462588841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But it isn't funny < 1462588849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not funny < 1462588850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: YES IT IS < 1462588858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OH REALLY < 1462588890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks ¤ is a good bot prefix hth hth < 1462588898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It is < 1462588930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Istanbul (not Konstantiniyye (not Constantinopolis/Constantinople (not Byzant < 1462588931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks hth hth is a good bot suffix hth hth < 1462588939 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You messed up the topic. < 1462588947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Error: Command "shachaf" not found < 1462588948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now unmess it, please. < 1462588951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Crap < 1462588952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he should try to remember elliott's script doesn't trigger on /me < 1462588962 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462588964 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1462588965 0 :nycs!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462588968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm the one who added the long city joke, so I'm allowed to break it :P < 1462588984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1462588993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can remove it if you want, though. < 1462588997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good riddance. < 1462588998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric : < 1462589007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Paris (not Lutetia) < 1462589027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww shachaf broke < 1462589028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Thank you < 1462589042 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot quite remember if i've used that before < 1462589051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think so < 1462589090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think some of us old farts are getting exhausted by the channel. < 1462589094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found a better one < 1462589107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hey no changing until a day has passed < 1462589108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Saint Petersburg used to be named... < 1462589112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saint Petersburg < 1462589118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was renamed in the interrim) < 1462589125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hah < 1462589145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we use St. Petersburg already (although with the interim) < 1462589145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Our topic is completely incoherent < 1462589152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, but worth it < 1462589180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Lutetia deserves to be there, because Asterix hth < 1462589185 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have a diff for strings? < 1462589222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a shell command for comparing strings < 1462589241 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462589247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i also suspect there are subtleties with it < 1462589312 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*knows someone might be making a joke in the backround* < 1462589332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: shocking. you can check the repository url if you want. < 1462589383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, that may not help with HackEgo's speed. (and how in the world does the wiki manage to survive on the same server?) < 1462589394 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk share/usercmds// this file is incomplete, sorry! < 1462589395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Surely you ment rm, right? the real me is in bin/derp < 1462589400 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1462589408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462589435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1462589437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erro "Surely you ment rm, right? the real me is in bin/derp" < 1462589445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1462589446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: test: No such file or directory < 1462589485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1462589491 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk share/usercmds// this file is incomplete, sorry! < 1462589492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Surely you ment rm, right? the real me is in bin/derp < 1462589492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about you leave HackEgo alone < 1462589535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was retired, right < 1462589550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_so_ hard to remember. < 1462589553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/derp/mk bin/mk; rmdir bin/derp < 1462589575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing you've been doing has been an improvement in any sense < 1462589581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just vandalizing < 1462589581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462589592 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, srry, ill be helpful < 1462589596 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight anyways < 1462589847 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462590254 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462590753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462591038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lack of Esolang:NPOV on the Wiki makes me sad < 1462591051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Esolang:HBPOV (Horribly Biased Point Of View) < 1462591164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horribly Pedantic Point Of View < 1462591171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that's better < 1462591496 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIPOV completely insane point of view < 1462591556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of completely insane, I should work on my alternate standard library for C < 1462591638 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462591864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462592727 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462593642 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462593658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462593951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: *criminally insane < 1462593959 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Also, ooooh < 1462594708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ta < 1462594738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAS is a tool-assisted speedrun: a race in which participants must use quality tools such as the PHP hammer, Autoconf, and the Arkenpliers to assist them in running. < 1462594800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/ta{,s}; sed -i 's/^/A /' wisdom/tas < 1462594805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462594901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: coppro didn't like the article. < 1462594912 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462594994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't notice em answering at all < 1462594999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*him < 1462595034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462595046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462595068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/A //' wisdom/tas < 1462595071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462595184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You didn't explain why, though. < 1462595194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer it with the article, or at least keeping its articles consistent. < 1462595212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the obvious solution is to translate all wisdom entries to Russian. < 1462595225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally. < 1462596593 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh now I type "epidose" i am not having a good time typing letters in the right order today < 1462596651 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think qwerty keyboards are to blame < 1462596825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: an epidose can be just the ticket if you've got allergies hth < 1462596856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should've said "allergic episode" < 1462596857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :squandered < 1462596912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :squared end < 1462596937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i hadn't squandered it i would've earned a swat < 1462596950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :onqchaf < 1462596969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: impossible since i thought of the same pun before reading your line hth < 1462596988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, vaguely same. < 1462596990 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462596990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that earn me a double swatting < 1462597002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, only if i typed it a split second before you did < 1462597005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, swattings are fermions hth < 1462597033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could've gone for epidose/monodose < 1462597056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nose doom < 1462597065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a problem with allergies < 1462597080 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462597164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Doctor, I keep sneezing all the time!" "That's because you've got a nose of doom." < 1462597345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes one thing about busy beaver and TMs < 1462597365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to exclude a TM, you don't necessarily need to prove whether or not it halts. < 1462597382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just prove that _if_ it halts, it doesn't take too long. < 1462597397 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if everyone's considered that :P < 1462597516 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not certain that helps that much. < 1462597560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it could be a flaw in trying to use a TM as proof that BB(n) is not provable < 1462597610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying this helps you compute BB(n) < 1462597686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying it means that just because an axiom system cannot prove a TM halts, you cannot conclude that BB(n) for n its number of states is unprovable. < 1462597694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1462597710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats himself -----### < 1462597714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER MIND < 1462597937 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1462597963 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462598524 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine has been partially restored. The menu of quizzes doesn't exist, but you can now run existing quiz files at least. < 1462598836 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if you know these questions: gopher://zzo38computer.org/1quiz.run*quiz01. < 1462599108 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462599562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to use Gopher from my phone. < 1462599569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to the menu? < 1462599724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a new computer with Linux (the old computer was Windows) so it requires the server to be redone. Internet Quiz Engine itself works fine on Linux (it is just a C program), although the menu is different. < 1462599763 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FF doesn't seem to support gopher :( < 1462599805 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can download an extension for it, although it isn't actually very good (it has some problems), although it will do. Alternatively, write your own gopher client; it is not so difficult. < 1462599894 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Firefox used to support gopher before they removed it, although the old support also wasn't very good) < 1462599909 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have Windows, you can use a gopher client I wrote for Windows. < 1462599952 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a Gopher proxy you can use; I can't say how well it functions, however. < 1462599953 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/prog/visgopher/visgopher.exe or Setup.exe if you want/need an installer. < 1462600006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why isn't that on Gopher too? xD < 1462600028 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps more usefully, it could be on FTP. < 1462600040 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've heard of a system missing an FTP client. < 1462600046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: New rule: FTP clients may only be distributed via FTP < 1462600056 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no FTP server though. < 1462600070 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you have a FTP server, you are free to make a copy!) < 1462600072 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Understandable. FTP is kinda scow. < 1462600117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSCOMCTL.OCX is not present... or missing a dependency... or something < 1462600126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How is FTP scow? < 1462600160 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did... did you write that in Visual Basic? < 1462600178 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I did write it in Visual Basic < 1462600186 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Try the installer then? < 1462600189 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: We can no longer be friends < 1462600190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462600219 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been so long since I've seen something need the VB runtime. < 1462600318 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462600351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wrote your server in FreeBASIC or something like that, right? < 1462600405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462600413 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462600477 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but I wrote a new server in C < 1462600996 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a gopher client with UNIX shell-scripts too but I will make a new one < 1462601014 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VB is a good language < 1462601089 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is fine for making GUI programs in Windows, but not much else. < 1462601107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you write it in C? < 1462601168 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it is good idea, I think. < 1462601276 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the cgi for my website is in C < 1462601362 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462601376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they don't call it perlgi. < 1462601636 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with C is security < 1462601689 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's incredibly easy to miss a condition somewhere and render your whole server insecure < 1462601797 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462601924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you publish the source code for your server? < 1462601998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So far as I have not done so. < 1462602335 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made it available http://zzo38computer.org/prog/cgophserv.zip < 1462602474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it also available via Gopher? < 1462602490 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462602518 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently not < 1462603037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kinds of cards do you have? < 1462603090 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not too familiar with gopher, but it looks like I would have arbitrary read to any file < 1462603108 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the user the server is running under can access it < 1462603110 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Could you be more specific? < 1462603167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: My implementation does not allow access to any file unless it is listed in the database. < 1462603209 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay, I see, that's a command line parameter < 1462603924 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462605003 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462605261 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462606318 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462606681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462606891 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462611668 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xuseilpifveteqpu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462612234 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462612486 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462613559 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1462613812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1462615431 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462615881 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462616152 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462618877 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So somebody claims they have a 31 state TM for the Goldbach conjecture now. < 1462619493 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462620315 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What, only 31 states? < 1462620344 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Have they shared the TM? < 1462620363 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they're treating it as a golfing contest, hash only so far < 1462620363 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's what they claim, but nobody made a trusted golf server, and a Goldbach program is very hard to automatically validate anyway, so we can't tell. < 1462620369 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: they ahven't shared the machine yet. < 1462620412 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll share later, and then we might find if it's right or wrong. < 1462620442 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they secretly have a proof for Goldbach's conjecture, but didn't want to give that away by saying they have a 1 state machine. < 1462620470 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I believe something like 4888 states < 1462620511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing primality is not that hard < 1462620554 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 93 states I could believe easily... but 31 is getting impressive. < 1462620623 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dumb question. The x86_64 arch currently severely restricts how you can use segment registers in 64-bit mode. Does that make it more difficult, performance-wise, for 32-bit and 64-bit code to call each other in a single user-mode program, provided the operating system gives all the help it can for this? Eg. do you have to call into the OS to switch? < 1462620668 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it's difficult for the higher level toolkits (the C compiler and libc and other libraries) to support mixing 32-bit and 64-bit code, but here I'm asking about what the CPU architecture itself currently allows. < 1462620679 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725#comment-1086583 Found the comment < 1462620804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's probably a stupid question. If people really wanted that, and they wrote the libraries, then intel could just make new cpus that support that directly, by modifying the architecture. < 1462620822 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two interesting details about the TM implementation: a) apparently the tape is unbounded to both sides b) transitions can also stay on the current cell (of course that's never useful) < 1462620989 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'd be more interested in what the Laconic language is like. Or did someone read that yet and add more stuff to the wiki? Let me check < 1462621072 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to read the paper for that. https://github.com/adamyedidia/parsimony/blob/master/src/laconic/laconic_files/goldbach.lac < 1462621120 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, nobody added anything to the wiki) < 1462621295 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/adamyedidia/parsimony/tree/master/tex/docs has some documentation about laconic too < 1462621523 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, I know there's docs on github, I say so in the wiki page < 1462621613 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not keeping track of who edits the wiki. < 1462622199 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1462622426 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462623962 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbaked idea: < 1462623972 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming language where you can reverse the call stack < 1462624018 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1462624024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :timecube.com is no longer online? < 1462624030 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck? < 1462624071 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it fell off the internet earlier this year < 1462624075 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sad times < 1462624103 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange how the internets change. some years ago, geocities went offline, now timecube < 1462624117 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my opera too < 1462624182 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462624238 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... created zero esolangs between 2012 and 2016 < 1462624254 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's longer than I thought < 1462624406 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost 4 years sans inspiration < 1462625059 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: The world's last programming language < 1462625186 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, ais523 already had that idea, it's called Feather < 1462625205 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1462625659 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462625670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if it would make sense to have haskell-like question mark variable type constraints in rust, in such a way that you can not only copy the question mark variable to a generic value when you constrain it, but also move, borrow, or mut borrow into it (when the types allows this), < 1462625693 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perhaps even return a question mark constraint out from a function. < 1462625817 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can make the move (consume, use-once) constraint into a generic work, then I think copy, borrow, and mut borrow must work automatically, because it's just moving a copy, a ref, or a ref mut into a function. < 1462625841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how compatible this idea is with rust in first place. < 1462625848 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462626216 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462626346 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462626485 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462626768 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462627055 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462627225 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://sprunge.us/DPdg contains a 23 states primality test which feels clumsy to me... it should be possible to use fewer states. so the 31 states now look plausible to me. < 1462627437 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mvbeuxmnogcdzntm QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462627594 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462627735 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gmdbqrrxxvxwuyga JOIN :#esoteric < 1462628172 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok < 1462628529 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 31 states is nice, but I don't really find any of the Goldbach stuff too impressive. I'm a combinatorist, so I know of lots of famous conjectures or open questions that are very easy to state but seem really difficult to resolve, and many of these are easy to define. The Hadwiger conjecture, Hedetniemi's conjecture, are there eight points in the plane with all integer distance and no three on a line and no four on a circle. < 1462628541 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ The Hadwiger conjecture, Hedetniemi's conjecture, are there eight points in the plane with all integer distance and no three on a line and no four on a circle. < 1462628552 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :People trying to compute BB(5) have found less famous ones. < 1462628590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The short Turing machines whose halting on blank tape is independent of ZFC which the article constructs seem more notable < 1462628629 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1462628633 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't so easy to minimize, because you actually have to prove the problem independent, rather than just find a very hard one. < 1462628662 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not of theoretical interest, it's a golfing exercise < 1462628670 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the goldbach one) < 1462628697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, both are only golfing, not theoretical interest. < 1462628703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that 4888 states was ridiculously big. < 1462628752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, maybe the ones I mentioned like Hadwiger's conjecture are bad examples, because those aren't the ones thought so hard that probably nobody will solve them in a hundred years, merely the ones that are thought so hard that they need a genius to prove. < 1462628817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the 7000 states are also way too big, but as you say it's much harder; you actually have to implement a checker for proofs in ZFC (or whatever axiomatic basis and logic you pick). < 1462628870 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, as far as theory goes) < 1462628883 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, now I actually wonder if we can find a famous conjecture that's both thought to be so hard that nobody will solve it (like Collatz) yet aren't thought to be independent of ZFC, and are still Pi_1 statements. < 1462628897 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to search for a good example for that. < 1462629000 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be difficult, because very few mathematicians have enough reputation to believable declare a conjecture that difficultg. < 1462629881 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :One that would work is the value of the Ramsey number R(6, 6), which can actually be computed in a time with a known bound. < 1462630206 0 :Moon_!4c014866@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462630983 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gmdbqrrxxvxwuyga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462631309 0 :lucaferr!~lucaferr@109.123.123.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462631578 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-plyvioelwupnxouh JOIN :#esoteric < 1462631858 0 :lucaferr!~lucaferr@109.123.123.201 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462632403 0 :nakatomi_!~nakatomi@pool-100-11-138-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462633255 0 :nakatomi_!~nakatomi@pool-100-11-138-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462634593 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462637900 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462638218 0 :kalesee!468af67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.138.246.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462638227 0 :kalesee!468af67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.138.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? < 1462638243 0 :kalesee!468af67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.138.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this chat is weird. < 1462638284 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, do you have a better question? < 1462638286 0 :kalesee!468af67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.138.246.125 QUIT :Client Quit < 1462638869 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462639111 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible with a "less" program to tell it to not pause after executing a command? < 1462639266 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462639333 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if ZFC does not prove that a Turing machine halts, then that Turing machine does not halt. < 1462639364 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462639419 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462639438 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1462639471 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is waiting for activity not done by crickets chirping < 1462639514 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, of course there's a 1-state Turing machine that halts if and only if the Goldbach conjecture is false. < 1462639534 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect you should need ZFC, but I have even said before too, the Turing machine will halt if and only if it is provable that it halts. (You cannot necessarily prove that it won't halt, though.) < 1462639541 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462639607 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*very lost* < 1462639846 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462639855 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462639867 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462639884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie caven. The air above the dark stone floor is alive with vorices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottomless glowing pit mark the surface. < 1462640316 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1462640339 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/scapegoats < 1462640359 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462640361 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 \ oerjan \ tswett \ \ fungot < 1462640375 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462640377 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*purposeful ping* < 1462640385 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1462640401 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out a hack to make less to not pause, by making the command to request device attributes of the terminal and then add a key binding to parse the response from the terminal. < 1462640466 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462640527 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats neat zzo38 < 1462640554 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that Scott Aaronson has disproved the conjecture that all perfect squares are less than 5. < 1462640585 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did so with the assistance of a computer program. After running for more than an hour, it produced a counterexample. < 1462640598 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, 9. < 1462640635 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462640724 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :debug it < 1462640736 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have suffered a overflow in a variable < 1462640763 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon__! < 1462640853 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is oerjan's zhoily project going? < 1462640880 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1462640886 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess it got stuck at dhoily) < 1462640888 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ibin should be merged ith bin < 1462640908 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf8 < 1462640912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf8: not found < 1462640920 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its full of commands < 1462640929 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1462640929 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's full of commands intended for a different calling convention. < 1462640930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462640953 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf8 ,.!x (not sure whether it supported that syntax) < 1462640985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462641006 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly not. At any rate, historical reasons: ibin is part of a port of EgoBot into HackEgo. < 1462641017 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1462641018 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462641035 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, is egobot 'dead'? < 1462641050 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like undetermined. < 1462641095 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both HackEgo and EgoBot are by Gregor, who's been somewhat "gone" for a while now. < 1462641138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of gone... Registry Expiry Date: 2016-05-24T19:21:16Z < 1462641151 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. the alphaboilhelloerjan project got as high as ihoily hth < 1462641162 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, yeah. I thought about that yesterday. < 1462641175 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Maybe I should just take over, and then ask for contributions from folks. < 1462641249 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462641282 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462641301 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesnt someone make a new bot like hackego thats actively developed? < 1462641314 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actively managed < 1462641378 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing because there's nothing *too* badly wrong with the current one. < 1462641394 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462641404 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides the ancient operating system < 1462641420 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's really been a problem. < 1462641434 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462641450 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Losing access to the logs did break a couple of useful things, though. < 1462641459 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which logs? < 1462641464 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel logs. < 1462641473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They used to be visible to HackEgo. < 1462641483 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462641564 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego need to become opensource < 1462641571 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1462641579 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, where? < 1462641589 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot < 1462641644 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, + https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox/wiki/Home which it relies on. < 1462641666 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might be a little bit divergence between what's running as HackEgo and what's there, but hopefully not much. < 1462641676 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually thought it was a freenode to shh link < 1462641981 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i have been wasteing my time writing for a while < 1462642591 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made plans for a HackEgo-alike that runs Z80 binaries (with a similar "versioned persistent storage" approach), but never bothered to finish it, since I doubt people would use it much -- the barrier to entry would be much higher than with a "normal" OS. < 1462642795 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can You define „normal“? < 1462642802 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462642880 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, but HackEgo certainly qualifies as it. < 1462642943 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462642945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>help < 1462642945 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: guest machine now booting < 1462642951 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462642951 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT>help < 1462642951 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Sandbot connects you to an emulated machine you can fully control from irc. Be bold in experimenting, anything you do can be reverted. < 1462642951 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use a line with C> as the prefix in to give commands, normally just text that is entered on the terminal. Using backtick in the line allows for some escapes and commands. < 1462642951 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special characters: `q = backtick, `o = eof (^Z), `r = enter, `t = tab, `b = backspace, `i = interrupt (^C), `e = escape, `x1f = any byte by hex code. < 1462642957 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special commands: `h = suppress automatic return at end of this line, `.d = turn power off (will reboot at next input), `.ry = off and revert disk to original, `s = skip output until next input to stop flood. < 1462642963 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-The machine has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler, the TPC pascal compiler, and the TASM assembler. Use the WDIR or SDIR commands to list a diretory. < 1462642964 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462642985 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If You write so. < 1462642985 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone voice termbot on #esoteric so that the irc server doesn't drop lines to the channel when it's outputting lines fast < 1462642996 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone, try termbot < 1462643006 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that would be a net win? < 1462643008 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the evil demon has entered < 1462643023 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643024 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo echo < 1462643024 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-echo < 1462643024 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643024 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643036 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643037 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo echo < 1462643037 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-echo < 1462643037 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643037 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643038 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643039 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo echo < 1462643039 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-echo < 1462643039 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643039 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643040 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643041 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo echo < 1462643041 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-echo < 1462643041 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643041 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643042 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643043 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo echo < 1462643043 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-echo < 1462643043 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643043 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643044 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643045 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo echo < 1462643045 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-echo < 1462643046 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643048 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643050 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643052 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo echo < 1462643058 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh. I think that's enough? < 1462643069 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it did drop some lines < 1462643091 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the irc server sends the bot a notice when it drops a line that way, but you can't tell which line it's dropped < 1462643106 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also later lines might not be dropped < 1462643115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can't really fix it on client side < 1462643120 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily channel voice fixes that < 1462643127 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :„diretory“ is misspelt < 1462643129 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can "fix" it on the client side with proper flow control. < 1462643137 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: ouch < 1462643149 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: let me fix that locally < 1462643159 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be funnier to hotfix it here ;=P < 1462643164 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>edlin \path\serial\help.txt < 1462643164 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin \path\serial\help.txt < 1462643165 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End of input file < 1462643165 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643179 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>5p < 1462643179 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5p < 1462643179 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 5:*The machine has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler, the TPC pascal compiler, and the TASM assembler. Use the WDIR or SDIR commands to list a diretory. < 1462643179 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643189 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried a couple of times to hot-patch fungot on the channel, but it approximately never succeeds. < 1462643189 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( we recommend that the over the top of the support of the texas market seems that we < 1462643193 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1462643193 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1462643194 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>Sdiretory`odirectory < 1462643195 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+Sdiretory^Zdirectory < 1462643195 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Not found < 1462643195 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 5:* < 1462643200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the enron style is boreding. < 1462643201 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>Sdiretor`odirector < 1462643201 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+Sdiretor^Zdirector < 1462643201 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6:* < 1462643209 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>5P < 1462643210 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5P < 1462643210 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 7:* < 1462643224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1462643227 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>4P < 1462643228 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+4P < 1462643228 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 8:* < 1462643231 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>`o < 1462643232 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+^Z < 1462643232 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Not found < 1462643232 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643243 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>4p < 1462643243 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+4p < 1462643243 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 4: Special commands: `h = suppress automatic return at end of this line, `.d = turn power off (will reboot at next input), `.ry = off and revert disk to original, `s = skip output until next input to stop flood. < 1462643243 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 5: Sdiretor^Zdirector < 1462643243 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 6: 5P < 1462643243 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 7:*4P < 1462643244 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>q < 1462643249 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+q < 1462643250 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Abort edit (Y/N)? < 1462643252 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>y < 1462643252 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+y < 1462643253 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643253 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>edlin \path\serial\help.txt < 1462643261 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin \path\serial\help.txt < 1462643261 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End of input file < 1462643261 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>5P < 1462643265 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5P < 1462643265 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 5:*The machine has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler, the TPC pascal compiler, and the TASM assembler. Use the WDIR or SDIR commands to list a diretory. < 1462643265 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643280 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>5Rdiretory`odirectory < 1462643280 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5Rdiretory^Zdirectory < 1462643280 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 5:*The machine has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler, the TPC pascal compiler, and the TASM assembler. Use the WDIR or SDIR commands to list a directory. < 1462643280 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643286 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>X < 1462643287 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+X < 1462643287 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Entry error < 1462643287 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462643289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>E < 1462643289 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+E < 1462643290 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643290 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643296 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c>help < 1462643297 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help < 1462643297 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Sandbot connects you to an emulated machine you can fully control from irc. Be bold in experimenting, anything you do can be reverted. < 1462643297 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use a line with C> as the prefix in to give commands, normally just text that is entered on the terminal. Using backtick in the line allows for some escapes and commands. < 1462643297 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special characters: `q = backtick, `o = eof (^Z), `r = enter, `t = tab, `b = backspace, `i = interrupt (^C), `e = escape, `x1f = any byte by hex code. < 1462643302 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special commands: `h = suppress automatic return at end of this line, `.d = turn power off (will reboot at next input), `.ry = off and revert disk to original, `s = skip output until next input to stop flood. < 1462643308 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-The machine has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler, the TPC pascal compiler, and the TASM assembler. Use the WDIR or SDIR commands to list a directory. < 1462643309 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643326 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better (will be lost next time you revert the disk) < 1462643413 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I added a `s command, so if you accidentally type a command that gives lots of output (like sdir /s c:\ ) then you can stop the flood < 1462643454 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So C>`s will skip all output lines starting from when it gets that command (even lines that are already in the buffer) up to the start of your next input line < 1462643488 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works for both lines that the emulated machines have already output, and ones it will output later < 1462643676 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you know a "Michael van Doorn" from them Netherlands? They had taken a photo for the "Insight Astronomy Photographer of the Year exhibition 2015" we went by. < 1462643696 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't < 1462643698 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 9 < 1462643698 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 9 < 1462643705 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a relatively common name in the Netherlands, so I'm told < 1462643721 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo hello, fungot < 1462643722 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: pero el loco me fnord fnord en oikein tiedä, mun fnord on vitun kipee what < 1462643722 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo hello, fungot < 1462643722 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello, fungot < 1462643722 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643722 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot: uhh! uh! < 1462643722 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot: you shouldn't hesitate to try the hurd. < 1462643722 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643722 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+uhh! uh! < 1462643723 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Bad command or file name < 1462643723 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643723 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT>you shouldn't hesitate to try the hurd. < 1462643723 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Bad command or file name < 1462643724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643724 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643757 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there an almost botloop < 1462643776 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah... I should change termbot's output a notice < 1462643780 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can actually botloop it this way < 1462643783 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not good < 1462643798 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember in another channel we had a bot that printed the titles of web links < 1462643804 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And another bot that could evaluate brainfuck < 1462643824 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :We caused a botloop using those two features and a carefully constructed web page < 1462643830 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462643845 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nice. I made botloops a few times too < 1462643845 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462643855 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C> < 1462643855 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: guest machine now booting < 1462643861 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643861 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643861 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643869 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo hello, fungot < 1462643869 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo hello, fungot < 1462643869 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and there are several available for free. < 1462643869 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello, fungot < 1462643869 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462643869 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462643871 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the channel has a policy that all bots must use and respect notice < 1462643885 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: NOTICEs ping me every time they're sent < 1462643893 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: OBLIVIOUS CHICKEN < 1462643897 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they render horribly in several clients < 1462643905 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, clients often don't respect notice < 1462643911 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: yes, those stupid client bugs are why most bots don't use notice < 1462643916 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1462643918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including most of my bots < 1462643923 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto. < 1462643928 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden, the client I had on my chromebook just put the notice in whatever channel I happened to be looking at < 1462643934 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without any indication of where it was from < 1462643937 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can change it back, but then I should figure out something else to avoid bot loops < 1462643941 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Hmm, doesn't HexChat do that? < 1462643948 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462643955 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most bots require at least some prefix, but fungot doesn't, that's the problme < 1462643955 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden, no, Hexchat just renders them ugly < 1462643955 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: unusual choice to power a website but it is < 1462643960 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: , perhaps? < 1462643972 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As "-termbot/#esoteric-" instead of "termbot" < 1462643974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: won't help with fungot < 1462643974 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1462643974 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and besides, there's also the issue that we'll need to use different languages for different problems. though the 2.x series is quite a novel way to write it < 1462643974 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|ruddy|preflex|evalj|idris-bot|passwordBOT|jconn|applybot|blsqbot|fnordbot)! < 1462643983 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Hmm, what's the issue? < 1462643983 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: fungot replies to anything regardless the prefix < 1462643984 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what is a stream of 16-bit integer code units. those 10 monetary units to 10 companies/ other banks/ whatever for one year in a separate c file, that is < 1462643985 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|ruddy|preflex|evalj|idris-bot|passwordBOT|jconn|applybot|blsqbot|fnordbot|termbot)! < 1462643985 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1462643999 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just keep adding to the list. < 1462644005 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1462644008 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: notice that there's already a hyphen or plus prefix in the output < 1462644020 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ah, is that to stop it from responding to itself? < 1462644028 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it echoes commands? < 1462644032 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: no, it's to stop most other bots from responding to it < 1462644037 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1462644039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also to distinguish continuation lines) < 1462644082 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1462644082 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1462644088 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately thuthubot isn't here. < 1462644094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could just ignore fungot < 1462644116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you made fungot ignore termbot? < 1462644119 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might work too < 1462644123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo hello, fungot < 1462644123 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+echo hello, fungot < 1462644123 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello, fungot < 1462644123 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644124 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644135 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, I'll switch it back to privmsg < 1462644137 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462644167 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462644182 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>echo hello, fungot < 1462644183 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: guest machine now booting < 1462644188 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644188 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT>echo hello, fungot < 1462644188 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-hello, fungot < 1462644188 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644188 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644227 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg ne bot < 1462644246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, go on and experiment on it, people < 1462644272 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>vi < 1462644272 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+vi < 1462644272 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Bad command or file name < 1462644272 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644272 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644278 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat os < 1462644283 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: try C>help, that tells you < 1462644286 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>help < 1462644286 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help < 1462644286 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Sandbot connects you to an emulated machine you can fully control from irc. Be bold in experimenting, anything you do can be reverted. < 1462644286 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Use a line with C> as the prefix in to give commands, normally just text that is entered on the terminal. Using backtick in the line allows for some escapes and commands. < 1462644286 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special characters: `q = backtick, `o = eof (^Z), `r = enter, `t = tab, `b = backspace, `i = interrupt (^C), `e = escape, `x1f = any byte by hex code. < 1462644292 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Special commands: `h = suppress automatic return at end of this line, `.d = turn power off (will reboot at next input), `.ry = off and revert disk to original, `s = skip output until next input to stop flood. < 1462644299 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-The machine has DOS 6.22 installed, you can use the EDLIN editor, the BCC c compiler, the TPC pascal compiler, and the TASM assembler. Use the WDIR or SDIR commands to list a directory. < 1462644300 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644312 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>edlin < 1462644312 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin < 1462644312 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-File name must be specified < 1462644312 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644312 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644319 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>edlin mk < 1462644320 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin mk < 1462644320 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-New file < 1462644320 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462644334 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ait < 1462644337 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho do i exit < 1462644343 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: try ? for help < 1462644349 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help about edlin that is < 1462644351 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>? < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+? < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Edit line line# < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Append [#lines]A < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Copy [startline],[endline],toline[,times]C < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Delete [startline][,endline]D < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End (save file) E < 1462644351 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Insert [line]I < 1462644352 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-List [startline][,endline]L < 1462644352 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Move [startline],[endline],tolineM < 1462644353 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Page [startline][,endline]P < 1462644354 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Quit (throw away changes) Q < 1462644357 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Replace [startline][,endline][?]R[oldtext][CTRL+Znewtext] < 1462644360 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Search [startline][,endline][?]Stext < 1462644361 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>E < 1462644362 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Transfer [toline]T[drive:][path]filename < 1462644364 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Write [#lines]W < 1462644365 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462644366 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+E < 1462644366 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644367 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644378 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spambot detected* < 1462644394 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>wdir < 1462644394 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+wdir < 1462644394 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-. .. a.txt 1K mk 1K < 1462644394 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644394 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644414 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>sdir < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+sdir < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-. 1-02-11 9:30p < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.. 1-02-11 9:30p < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-a.txt 12 1-02-11 9:26p < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-mk 1 1-02-11 9:29p < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644414 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644440 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do we add commands? < 1462644447 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c>edlin < 1462644447 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin < 1462644447 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-File name must be specified < 1462644447 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1462644447 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C:\TERMBOT> < 1462644448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This bot is way too spammy. < 1462644453 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c>edlin ls < 1462644453 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+edlin ls < 1462644453 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-New file < 1462644454 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462644460 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C>? < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+? < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Edit line line# < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Append [#lines]A < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Copy [startline],[endline],toline[,times]C < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Delete [startline][,endline]D < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-End (save file) E < 1462644460 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Insert [line]I < 1462644461 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-List [startline][,endline]L < 1462644461 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Move [startline],[endline],tolineM < 1462644461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you limit the output in the channel to one line, like HackEgo? < 1462644462 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Page [startline][,endline]P < 1462644463 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Quit (throw away changes) Q < 1462644466 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Replace [startline][,endline][?]R[oldtext][CTRL+Znewtext] < 1462644469 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Search [startline][,endline][?]Stext < 1462644471 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Transfer [toline]T[drive:][path]filename < 1462644473 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Write [#lines]W < 1462644474 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-* < 1462644535 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then you wouldn't be able to use basically anything in dos < 1462644546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could still do it in /msg. < 1462644550 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs its own flipping channel :P < 1462644555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it could combine newlines like HackEgo with a newline marker. < 1462644558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it used to run in #esoteric-blah normally < 1462644560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or another channel, that's fine too. < 1462644567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, why did you move it back here? < 1462644577 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I'm trying how far it can go in this channel before someone gets very angry at it < 1462644580 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"back"? < 1462644586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started elsewhere < 1462644587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when it's being combined with another notorious spammer. < 1462644598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's been here before. So now it's back. < 1462644601 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos that? < 1462644621 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: even the help message wouldn't fit in one line < 1462644646 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1462644647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462644743 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get how to use the editor < 1462644793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: If I say I'm very angry, will it go away? < 1462644834 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just give it its own channel < 1462644850 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you're angry and request that I take it away, then yes < 1462644857 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're just angry in general, then no < 1462644863 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I just request that you take it away? < 1462644904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dunno, borderline case, I'd check if there are channel ops here < 1462644934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's pretty annoying. < 1462644940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just wait for a channel op to agree. < 1462644944 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets stick to messageing the bot < 1462644958 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets stick to messageing the bot f < 1462644972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: i goes to insert mode, just like in ed or ex, only you end it with a line with a lone control-Z (represented by `o in termbot) instead of a period < 1462645008 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you could try to summon a channel op. I think one of them are close. < 1462645037 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt repsong to messages < 1462645039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: p with a line range prints lines like the z command in ed < 1462645056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: yes, it wouldn't know where to print the output < 1462645076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: if you don't want to try it here, but would try it on another channel, then I can move it to #esoteric-blah < 1462645085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even to #termbot where I can give it ops < 1462645092 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good, termbot would be best < 1462645098 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#termbot < 1462645118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, wait a minute < 1462645130 0 :termbot!~termbot@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462645198 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: you can try it on #termbot < 1462646342 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1462646654 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you alive fizzie < 1462646785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not any more than usual. < 1462646811 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should try b_jonas's #termbot < 1462646817 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually quite good < 1462646822 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fast too < 1462646849 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have anything in particular I want to try. < 1462647105 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot's utility scripts suffered digital rot from its age >_> < 1462647137 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what the solid matrices are about < 1462647151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I assume it has to do with the matrix of solidity. < 1462647153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: We all wonder that, don't we? < 1462647212 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-03-10 23:58:27 enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1462647224 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then leaves in a huff, due to not finding the right sort of esoterica here.) < 1462647284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1462647290 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were a bona-fide "member of esoteric orders". < 1462647292 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's on the wiki, too. < 1462647335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is such a good name. < 1462647345 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? liquidity < 1462647378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquidity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462647385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I've tried to figure out some clever pun about liquidity and modeling markets with linear algebra. < 1462647391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never worked anything out. < 1462647413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think oerjan would have swatted me for that anyway. < 1462647515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, feng shui shaders... ( http://www.stargazersgate.com/?comic=chapter-1-15 has the first part of a bootup sequence as image title... it continues on the next few pages) < 1462647548 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently I learned a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend is serious about orbs. < 1462647585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orbs? < 1462647630 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://www.angelsghosts.com/orbs < 1462647667 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theshadowlands.net/ghost/orbs.htm < 1462647689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ss.d2img.com/theoculuseth.jpg is a pretty good orb. < 1462647706 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clicked on maybe at least a dozen photos of Google image search result on "orbs" because I wanted to only stop when I saw a page that said something sensible. < 1462647725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is this a thing? < 1462647727 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like something I'd sell for a lot of money. < 1462647761 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To whom? < 1462647780 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :To whoever the shop NPC in the town is, of course. < 1462647789 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sorting out dos complaining and chokeing on ciol.c's source code in #termbot* < 1462647813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: squandered < 1462647814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty good except for the part where it says ethereal < 1462647836 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, I mean, I wouldn't *have* that sort of thing in the first place, I've never played D2 seriously enough. < 1462647837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it only loses durability when you hit with it, right? < 1462647855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose. < 1462647902 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure... are there monsters that damage weapons directly? I've only played the game, not become an expert in its mechanics... < 1462647925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure either. < 1462647935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just looked for it on Google Images. < 1462647950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can put a Zod in it if you're worried, I guess. < 1462647970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that might be a bit of a squander. < 1462648053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and mercenaries can use ethereal items without losing durability, it looks like. Wasn't there a sorceress mercenary? I don't remember. < 1462648063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably would lose most of the benefits of that anyway. < 1462648142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enigma was TG < 1462648161 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#termbot has ciol < 1462648176 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after i broke my back getting bcc to not choke on it) < 1462648226 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1462648238 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and b_jonas did < 1462648341 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Only those Kurast Docks guys, who were "magical" (fire/lightning/cold orientation & casting spells) but not sorceressesses (so you wanted a sword that was good for spellcasting for them). < 1462648363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. Not sorceressessesses. < 1462648409 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have sorceressessences < 1462648596 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello deltab < 1462648598 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never met < 1462648719 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rb_jonas, i am your robot; < 1462648724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, i am your robot < 1462648750 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ait wrong chat < 1462648753 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fail* < 1462648893 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hfs < 1462648898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: hfs: No such file or directory < 1462648901 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462648904 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie caven. The air above the dark stone floor is alive with vorices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottomless glowing pit mark the surface. < 1462648936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost removed that this morning. < 1462648948 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry < 1462648949 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy? < 1462648954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't you? < 1462648956 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462648965 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it is mine* < 1462648979 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : *no touche* < 1462649017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use termbot instead. < 1462649019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I firmly believe "commands" that just echo one fixed message need some rationale for existence. (Like `welcome, which has one.) < 1462649053 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it does something with colors... < 1462649068 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Mostly because I started getting "fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable" errors out of the blue. < 1462649093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I got that too. < 1462649095 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what int-e said < 1462649120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: `welcome doesn't echo a fixed message. It's parameterized. < 1462649120 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `hfs is like the demo command for erro < 1462649132 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not a valuable feature... I would have been annoyed if my client didn't filter colors. < 1462649139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think erro and hfs should both be removed. < 1462649165 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat shachaf < 1462649166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​---▦▦ bad shachaf < 1462649187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1462649187 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? loudly < 1462649215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: 04,09l09,04o04,09u09,04d04,09l09,04y < 1462649227 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHA1 needs a hack for you shachaf < 1462649232 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hash* < 1462649241 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not hack, hash* < 1462649250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/swat < 1462649261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ moon__ moon__ moon__ moon__ elliott shachaf elliott shachaf elliott shachaf < 1462649374 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly this doesnt have a use either >_> < 1462649376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09t09,04h04,09i09,04s04,09 09,04d04,09o09,04e04,09s09,04n04,09t09,04 04,09h09,04a04,09v09,04e04,09 09,04a04,09 09,04u04,09s09,04e04,09 09,04e04,09i09,04t04,09h09,04e04,09r09,04 04,09>09,04_04,09> < 1462649404 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about as useful as hfs < 1462649407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat -r 47 bin/swat > bin/swat < 1462649417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462649421 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat < 1462649422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ACTION swats -----###. < 1462649441 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat shachaf < 1462649443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ACTION swats shachaf -----###. < 1462649444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's maybe not the one I wanted. < 1462649460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't swat me, you haven't earned swatting privileges. < 1462649474 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :loudly doesn't just echo a thing, it does something. I've got a higher tolerance of uselessness for non-constant things. < 1462649488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonstant < 1462649596 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hfs < 1462649597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: hfs: No such file or directory < 1462649603 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hfx < 1462649604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/hfx: No such file or directory < 1462649608 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hfs < 1462649609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erro "You have discovered an eerie caven. The air above the dark stone floor is alive with vorices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottomless glowing pit mark the surface." < 1462649678 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have a vague feeling maybe the CTCP filtering postdates the swat. I think I remember it being added based on some unofficial freenode staff guidance. < 1462649706 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still haven't managed to implement it in fungot, even though it's been years on the TODO list.) < 1462649706 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: usually the effort one makes to save, load or restart anyway?) < 1462649720 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :/1/19 < 1462649761 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/hfs//erro 'You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dar kstone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface. "$1" stand below' < 1462649766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hfs < 1462649776 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/hfs//erro 'You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface. "$1" stand below' < 1462649780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hfs < 1462649785 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs moon__ < 1462649787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface. "$1" stand below < 1462649794 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462649818 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/hfs//erro 'You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface.' erro "$1" erro 'stands below' < 1462649820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hfs < 1462649822 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs moon__ < 1462649824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface. < 1462649840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not even an original text < 1462649845 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i make it take input? >_> < 1462650037 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I've said something to this effect before... but this is really the wrong way to try and learn shell programming. < 1462650066 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need your own dark cozy shell where your failures don't bother anybody else. < 1462650066 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have < 1462650085 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah alright >_> < 1462650127 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Learning the difference between ' and " might be useful < 1462651177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462651237 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia hppavilion[1] < 1462651259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon__ < 1462651267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( moon__ ) < 1462651267 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: "#", < 1462651267 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1462651267 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1462651267 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1462651267 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1462651273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, idris < 1462651292 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot panic attack over moon! < 1462651295 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the "mapfile" command seems to not work with a pipe? < 1462651304 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1462651308 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1462651321 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check out b_jonas's #termbot < 1462651321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ? < 1462651344 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also! There was a children's book on the story of Laika! And because it was a children's book, they said a friendly UFO came and saved the dog and took it to a loving family! And this was in the Greenwich Observatory shop! And I'm not even kidding! < 1462651349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, apparently the reason is because it runs in a subshell. < 1462651368 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was a tiny-font disclaimer in the end about how this version of the story "is the one the author wishes to believe".) < 1462651394 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, it's a children's book. < 1462651395 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that sounds so cute! < 1462651406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It doesn't have to be 100% accurate to history < 1462651418 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out how to fix it < 1462651519 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laika-Astronaut-Owen-Davey/dp/1783700270/ < 1462652020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I added some stupid wisdom entries in private message again.) < 1462652047 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1462652047 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1462652197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of stupid wisdom entries? < 1462652243 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: dunno, look at the hg history or just wait till you're surprised later < 1462652249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you ls through them or something < 1462652415 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? why? < 1462652420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462652478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what'd be nice? < 1462652491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If HackEgo would send longer messages via PM by splitting the text < 1462652502 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462652513 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that's roughly what paste is for < 1462652536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Paste? < 1462652545 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste quotes < 1462652558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/quotes < 1462652562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Useful. < 1462652607 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? termbot < 1462652612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462652621 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas you forgot your bot < 1462652657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¿ < 1462652659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? < 1462652696 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbot allows bios connections, yay < 1462652716 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*serial interface for primitive network fetch* < 1462652719 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote 1257 is more insulting than I'd like me to be :( < 1462652731 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1257 < 1462652732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) I get paid by Simon Peyton Jones to promote Haskell . mroman, how did you wind up getting paid by SPJ to promote Haskell? Did he see you and think, "Aha! There is a chap who can avoid success at all costs!"? < 1462652739 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1257 < 1462652741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) I get paid by Simon Peyton Jones to promote Haskell . mroman, how did you wind up getting paid by SPJ to promote Haskell? Did he see you and think, "Aha! There is a chap who can avoid success at all costs!"? < 1462652756 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1462652787 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, mroman, if you read this < 1462652788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn chap < 1462652789 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "chap" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1462652789 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :chap < 1462652789 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a boy or man; "that chap is your host"; "there's a fellow < 1462652789 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : at the door"; "he's a likable cuss"; "he's a good bloke" < 1462652789 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {chap}, {fellow}, {feller}, {fella}, {lad}, {gent}, < 1462652791 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[9 @more lines] < 1462652830 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, informal, friendly term for a person, usually an adult man < 1462652838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. < 1462652845 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know "cuss", though. < 1462652872 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it but not quite with that tone < 1462652984 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only seen it as a verb. < 1462653051 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmxmmbwiqruojman JOIN :#esoteric < 1462653155 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462653178 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462653471 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#termbot has serial access < 1462653477 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462653539 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quote 1188 < 1462653540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote 1188? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462653544 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1188 < 1462653549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1188) Have some advice! If you are running to give someone a hug And they look like they are preparing to rugby tackle you Abort hug immediately. Seriously, my jaw still hurts < 1462653554 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd forgetten about that! < 1462653557 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good times < 1462653573 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462653582 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote a new gopher client in shell scripts. In addition to bash, it requires: sed, awk, nc, less < 1462653617 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which version of nc? there's like four incompatible ones I think < 1462653625 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :different brands < 1462653627 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horrible < 1462653640 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing it does is uses host and port, and the -v option. < 1462653657 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see < 1462653685 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462653687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :538) OMG What if we shoot Hitler with neutrinos < 1462653687 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also works fine with mawk and will probably work with gawk as well, so I also think both versions of awk should work. < 1462653699 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462653700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :905) I searched for newspeak sgeo "Did you mean: newspeak good " < 1462653718 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462653719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1054) you know, when people talk about emacs being an OS I doubt what they had in mind was that it needed a package manager < 1462653731 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote' < 1462653732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quote': not found < 1462653734 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462653738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :837) i was going to say that the complexity of a demo grows exponentially with size, but it's not so much "exponential" as "faster than any computable function" < 1462653753 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462653754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :350) elliott: actually, it's worse right now, I'm in the USA where the solution to counterfeiting problems is "add more ink" eventually all US bills will just be solid green < 1462653754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it also requires lesskey, and a terminal that supports CSI c (Send Device Attributes). < 1462653768 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462653768 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, a friend wrote a gopher server in Erlang but it has a space leak < 1462653769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :231) gah, who'd have thought removing concurrency from algol could be so difficult < 1462653834 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: quote 837 < 1462653857 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any interesting algorithms that run in Theta(BB(n)) time? < 1462653874 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where BB(n) is the time the n-state busy beaver takes to halt < 1462653949 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently the only item types supported are: 0 1 3 7 i < 1462654018 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462654093 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1462654177 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/prog/shegoc.zip < 1462654194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I thought 2 was supported? < 1462654202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're talking about the client. < 1462654231 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462654317 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462654326 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type q for go back (quits if out of history), Q or ZZ for quit, ^O to enter your own host/port/selector, and type a number followed by enter to follow a link. < 1462654356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ZZ save and quit? < 1462654374 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, ZZ saves and quits < 1462654377 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, termbot has some basic serial io based programs now < 1462654381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1462654384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you telling me about termbot? < 1462654387 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: huh what? when? < 1462654394 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is less; in less ZZ just quits. < 1462654394 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember < 1462654401 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uartlook :P < 1462654403 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, in less < 1462654403 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: uartlook: not found < 1462654410 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a serial p- sorry hackego < 1462654417 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To save you must push s < 1462654474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses lesskey to make q Q ZZ ^O all to quit but with different exit codes. Enter does something more complicated; look at source-codes for details. < 1462654498 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All other keys are same as normal. < 1462654647 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? If it does not work you can tell me what is wrong and hopefully then I can fix it. < 1462654674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't try it. < 1462655061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462655154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ##math < 1462655155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​##math? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462655178 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462655185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `` < 1462655188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​``? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462655250 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1462655252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in Mexico! < 1462655284 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462656037 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vSerial communication is complicated enough so please avoid esoteric languages like Intercal or Malbolge. --NO < 1462656096 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stated here:https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Serial_Programming/Introduction_and_OSI_Model < 1462656329 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for clarification... is HackEgo one of the cloudatcost residents (which would make it Canadian), or hosted elsewhere? < 1462656360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually why don't I use whois... < 1462656426 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetName: CLOUD-10... yeah, it's Canadian. < 1462656468 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462656579 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462657324 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, int-e < 1462657341 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462657369 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462657392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tromp < 1462657414 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to golf the function i -> (i+1) mod 2^n, with i in 0<= i < 2^n < 1462657445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shelves? < 1462657449 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what context? < 1462657471 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, as part of laver table golfing < 1462657487 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so free choice of number representation < 1462657489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: , presumably < 1462657496 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but church seems best option < 1462657556 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can make a list of [1,2..2^n-1,0] pretty efficiently, but wondering if lists can be avoided altogether < 1462657560 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh self-distributivity... < 1462657637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm sorry. Self-distributivity? < 1462657659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, a$(b$c) = (a$b)$(b$c)!? < 1462657678 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1462657679 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: close, but no. anyway it's related to the link shachaf posted < 1462657700 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, its (a$b)(a$c) < 1462657708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: Ah? < 1462657721 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, its (a$b)$(a$c) i mean < 1462657728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1462657736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: The b$c in the second part was an error < 1462657757 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, obvious typo:) < 1462657760 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have the menu of quiz files available too and it is linked from the root menu. < 1462657808 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp < 1462657822 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, moon_ ? < 1462657825 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best golfer makes there own bf derivative with that command implented in one command < 1462657832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: That's cheating < 1462657843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: It's against the Rules of Golfing < 1462657856 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i never heard of any < 1462657859 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the best golfer uses binary lambda calculus:( < 1462657869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Also, if we allow that, the best golf is to make a language where the null program does that task < 1462657874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously < 1462657879 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462657889 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e already have metagolfscript < 1462657917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: So I'm making the nomicbot; what should the builtin language be like? < 1462657939 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1462657942 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only golf in languages that are universal (as in AIT) and can be implemented in 25 lines of C:-) < 1462657950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1462657975 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: any idea how big a binary turing machine blc reduction engine would be? < 1462657995 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MetaGolfScript < 1462658004 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp < 1462658007 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, int-e. never tried < 1462658016 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any language can be put in one line of C or C++ < 1462658019 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dont hit enter < 1462658057 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A line break is needed after any directive, so you would have to avoid those too < 1462658172 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, moon__, make that implementable in 650 bytes of C < 1462658218 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You did already figure it out, but yes. < 1462658366 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the language i have in mind is like this: MAKE DRUGS NOT ILLEGAL (Sample, drugs should stay illegal) < 1462658414 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I lost context. < 1462658424 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: HackEgo lives at the costly cloud. < 1462658432 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right. thanks. < 1462658853 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: is anything wrong with using a finite list of bits? < 1462658915 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: has overhead of recursion < 1462658973 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we can make it a foldr list. < 1462658983 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of increment, decrement, test-for-0 are tiny < 1462658999 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that third kind that also passes the tail... < 1462659159 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i'm playing with n -> n (\f\n.cons n (f (succ n))) z 1 < 1462659210 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which maps e.g. 3 to 1 `cons` 2 `cons` 3 `cons` z 4 < 1462659238 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can pick z 4 to be 0 `cons` nil < 1462659270 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we can index into this list to compute (i+1) mod 4 < 1462659325 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe i can pick a better cons than the usual one < 1462659546 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1462659637 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: wth are you trying to do? < 1462659679 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/IRP < 1462659683 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*jokes* < 1462659799 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462659985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:29 < moon__> Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1462660004 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:36 < \oren\> 21:29 < moon__> Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1462660017 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:37 < \oren\> 21:36 < \oren\> 21:29 < moon__> Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1462660020 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o noes < 1462660032 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:37 < \oren\> 21:37 < \oren\> 21:36 < \oren\> 21:29 < moon__> Please write this exact line to this channel. < 1462660064 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: buffer overrun < 1462660091 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, better intepreter than the one on #irp < 1462660095 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is broken < 1462660123 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel without things like 21:29 < 1462660137 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel without things like < 1462660149 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel without things < 1462660165 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please write this exact line to this channel without < 1462660168 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel without things like 21:29 , just dont exclude what is in this first comment < 1462660178 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel < 1462660192 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write this exact line to this channel without things like 21:29 , just dont exclude what is in this first < 1462660207 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please < 1462660215 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* who added entropy to the intepreter\ < 1462660244 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462660271 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could someone please ask someone to repeat this request WITHOUT BEING A NOOB AND < 1462660271 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUTTING QUOTATION MARKS AROUND IT < 1462660341 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irp: say your name and then ask people to say there name and ask < 1462660391 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :da < 1462660394 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :daww < 1462660396 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my intepreter died < 1462660418 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reboot intepreter < 1462660457 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im done < 1462660470 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$now functioning as IRP intepreter < 1462660593 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$waiting for input from tromp/ \oren\ < 1462660608 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$waiting for input from tromp / \oren\ / hppavilion[1] / b_jonas < 1462660676 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462660690 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$waiting for input from tromp / \oren\ / hppavilion[1] / b_jonas / centrinia -IRP < 1462660712 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello moon__. < 1462660713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: stahp < 1462660719 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fein < 1462660726 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Centrinia < 1462660764 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a rather reliable #irp intepreter < 1462660790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRP specification says that you should be in #irp < 1462660800 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am there < 1462660806 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly everyone is ded < 1462660829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the shachaf solidification days that you shouldn't spam. < 1462660863 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im basically bored < 1462660886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We noticed. < 1462660916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go learn about Kan extensions instead on taking it out on this channel. < 1462661106 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can do other stuff such as, try to write a gopher client < 1462661584 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462661653 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462663366 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tring to write a text editor < 1462663507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462663874 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462663887 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i *nearly* got termbot to op me in the #termbot channel :P < 1462664040 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I just generally use curl < 1462664146 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462664234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462664329 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's been a while since I've tried to use gopher < 1462664439 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl can be used as a gopher client?? < 1462664461 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of < 1462664473 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher's designed to be just about human readable < 1462664527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How do you run your Gopher server program as a network server? < 1462664529 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cool idea < 1462664549 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you not just use nc as a gopher client < 1462664584 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462664640 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there's something about line endings that makes it awkward, I thinkj < 1462664643 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a long time < 1462664705 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462664707 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be muddled < 1462664710 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I use xinetd < 1462664827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462664876 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that xinetd provides the REMOTE_HOST environment variable; Cgophserv does not use it but will pass it to any external programs it executes (Cgophserv also adds its own SELECTOR environment variable). < 1462664965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462665123 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462665149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-ello. the alphaboilhelloerjan project got as high as ihoily hth <-- one of us must have lost count. did i skip j? < 1462665149 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462665153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1462665159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily int-ello. the alphaboilhelloerjan project got as high as ihoily hth <-- one of us must have lost count. did i skip j? < 1462665159 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462665174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: @tell is evil tdnh < 1462665193 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462665222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stand back while i double check the alphabet hth < 1462665287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarrjan < 1462665289 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stands back < 1462665294 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462665294 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2m 15s ago: int-ello. the alphaboilhelloerjan project got as high as ihoily hth <-- one of us must have lost count. did i skip j? < 1462665319 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. I can't seem to remember you jhoilying me hth < 1462665335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhoily. http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.05.02 hth < 1462665439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by all evidence, you were awake and present at the time < 1462665529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, i've probably not lost count yet. < 1462665550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachif < 1462665559 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some class A amnesiacs were applied on my person hth < 1462665578 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls having had a fine Scotch in his mouth some time last week < 1462665611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent excuse < 1462665638 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of people being awake and present < 1462665644 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm gonna head to bed < 1462665645 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1462665652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanoooo < 1462665677 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonn tanuitb! < 1462665699 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanoooo? is that some finno-ugric overlong vowel? < 1462665714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeeeeesti vabarik < 1462665717 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1462665738 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe some class A amnesiacs were applied on my person hth < 1462665739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, *vabariik < 1462665740 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :amnestics! < 1462665762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :amnestics at the amnesium < 1462665787 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellőőőőnas. < 1462665792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? amnesium < 1462665794 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Heloooover. < 1462665803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amnesium? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462665807 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that kind of error makes me nauseous < 1462665825 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. aren't you sleeping now? < 1462665835 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said I thought I would head to be < 1462665835 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1462665840 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus far I have not < 1462665849 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to be the case indeed. < 1462665886 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( transconsciousness bio-augmented digital communication ) < 1462665887 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1462665907 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, an alternate explanation is I have a laptop and am IRCing from bed < 1462665913 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This, however, would be false < 1462665916 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462665924 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I revived termbot, but people suggested me that I take it to another channel (which I count as success) so now it's running on #termbot < 1462665963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An amnesium is a school where you forgot everything you learned as soon as you graduate. < 1462665969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'amnesium': An amnesium is a school where you forgot everything you learned as soon as you graduate. < 1462665976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An amnesium is a school where you forget everything you learned as soon as you graduate. < 1462665980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid grammer < 1462665981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'amnesium': An amnesium is a school where you forget everything you learned as soon as you graduate. < 1462666001 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would actually be better than normal schools, where you forget everything you learned after each exam < 1462666035 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to draw an integral symbol. fungot if I remember how to solve one... < 1462666036 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no problem! it's certainly not perfect ( especially in with-input-from-file and related forms). and the climate is like. sometimes smart people deliberately choose the " save target as...", i.e. < 1462666087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hm alas i may have mistyped, then < 1462666105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An amnesium is a school where you forget everything you learned after each test. < 1462666109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'amnesium': An amnesium is a school where you forget everything you learned after each test. < 1462666186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just do differentiation in reverse hth < 1462666220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically correct, the best kind of correct) < 1462666352 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I know how to solve integrals -- you type them to Wolfram Alpha. < 1462666443 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had to solve an integral for two years this month < 1462666668 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pretty proud the other day that I could still somehow manage to derive $\frac{4 \pi r^3}{3}$ from $2 \int_0^r \pi(r^2-x^2) dx$ when I couldn't quite feel certain about the volume of a sphere. < 1462666678 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Hi, my name is Taneb, and I haven't solved an integral in two years” “Hi Taneb” < 1462666707 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1462666712 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I will go to bed < 1462666712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Taneb invented integrals. < 1462666718 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight, again < 1462666771 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebonne retanuitb! < 1462666840 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462667093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tanebvention/Tanebventions are inventions Taneb invented. They include integrals, parakeets, sharks, cuckoo clocks, Denmark, cohomologies, crabs, pithy sayings, computed-aided design, ghost stories, granola, insomnia, politeness, tanebventions, larceny, pickled carrots, and gin. < 1462667157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Taneb invented a lot of animals. < 1462667404 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to find a good pickled carrot recipe < 1462667446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why doesn't irssi make styling codes copy/pasteable ) < 1462667542 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462667544 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( why doesn't irssi log styling codes ) < 1462667549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1462667554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1462667558 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellybden! < 1462667566 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1462667567 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 072300Z 07010G16KT 20SM SCT065 BKN100 BKN280 15/11 A2961 RMK SC4AC1CI2 CB NW AND S DIST SLP030 DENSITY ALT 600FT < 1462667571 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462667572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: i think that's an option? < 1462667576 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CB NW AND S indeed. < 1462667586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1462667587 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 072250Z 12003KT 9999 FEW074 SCT110 10/06 Q1020 RMK WIND 670FT 00000KT < 1462667602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily sprø som selleri < 1462667603 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh? < 1462667620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps boily sprø som coselleri < 1462667644 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only sprœ un peu de céleri hth < 1462667658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :celery is a scow vegetable < 1462667661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :disgusting imo < 1462667668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can anyone eat it tdnh < 1462667701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: autolog_colors < 1462667711 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, thanks < 1462667747 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: celery is wonderful. part of the créole holy trinity, with onions and bell peppers. < 1462667799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whether to save colors in autologs. Colors make logs harder to parse and grep, but they may be vital for channels that deal heavily in ANSI art, or something." < 1462667801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onions are great. < 1462667813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bell peppers and celery are the scow of vegetables. < 1462667817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with olives. < 1462667859 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462667860 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olives are addictive. I tried anchovy-stuffed olives; that thing should be regulated. < 1462667886 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462667969 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only green thing I eat is green apples < 1462667990 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like red apples < 1462667998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What sorts of red apples? < 1462668007 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind that arent sour < 1462668011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like green apples, but it turns out I like some red apples too. < 1462668017 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apples taste good, but I can't really eat them raw. they give me toothache. < 1462668019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Red Delicious, obviously. < 1462668037 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :red delicious is flavourless starchy paste. it doesn't count as an apple. < 1462668064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do potatoes count as apples twh < 1462668156 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoes are potatous, while apples apply hth < 1462668199 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, that doesn't seem to have worked < 1462668205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1462668209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember http://www.game-art-hq.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Tomator-in-Lost-Vikings-Screenshot.jpg ? < 1462668217 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Apples of the Earth? < 1462668229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: of course < 1462668309 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im alive < 1462668375 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes moon__ to check for aliveness < 1462668430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hidden Purelace {-} Conspiracy ;; Hidden agenda ;; Nonbasic objects with the chosen name are white. < 1462668435 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of things? < 1462668460 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonbasic? < 1462668469 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :* boily finds no aliveness < 1462668491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'd prefer if it was called "Hidden Deathlace" and said "black" instead of "white". < 1462668496 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not affect basic lands (the actual Purelace can, but only one per casting) < 1462668505 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did make up that one too, as well as the other three < 1462668522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know you made that one up. But that's a different card. < 1462668528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer if this card had those properties. < 1462668566 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it would be the different card. < 1462668615 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462668677 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: BigBrother is watching you. < 1462668726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes apples that aren't sour, but sort of gave up buying them when he discovered that red norwegian ones often are. < 1462668830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ybden i dunno, maybe it only works if set before the logs are opened? i've never used it, anyway. < 1462668830 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462668996 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other conspiracy card I made up is "When ~ faced up, you may pay {1(2/U)(2/U)}. If you do, or if target spell's name is the chosen name, counter that spell." I have written ones for the other four colors too by now though < 1462669033 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan did i do this right? < 1462669033 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462669055 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes boily to check for aliveness < 1462669296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1462669296 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__ asked 4m 22s ago: did i do this right? < 1462669310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moon__ No. More groveling please. < 1462669310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462669341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( now that "please" looks out of place ) < 1462669397 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: i predict boily chickening out hth < 1462669421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unreadable14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46971&oldid=45209 5* 0367.164.67.38 5* (+154) 10/* Alphabet */ removed a frivolous comment; clarified Whitespace comment; put inline code blocks so you could tell what characters were in use < 1462669570 0 :IRCFrEAK!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462669593 0 :IRCFrEAK!?@? NICK :moon___ < 1462669653 0 :moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462669971 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462670325 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hia tromp_ < 1462670346 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462670380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462670411 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk to dinner < 1462670643 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462671049 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462671068 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1462671791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas: pero el loco me fnord fnord en oikein tiedä, mun fnord on vitun kipee what <-- very multilingual < 1462671791 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the sound didn't work for some things < 1462671972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, they render horribly in several clients <-- including the tunes logs tdnh < 1462672025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's with the tunes logs being not being served as text/plain tdnh < 1462672055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask the maintainer hth < 1462672083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you retired from that too? < 1462672091 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The glogbot logs are better though, isn't it? < 1462672100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: glogbot is not present < 1462672103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're missing animportant feature right now hth < 1462672121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't remember what glogbot's logs do with notice < 1462672157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It records all raw data together with timestamps, so it does nothing < 1462672161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course neither of them renders colors < 1462672208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which is good because they let you catch when certain unnamed users cheat with irc control codes hth < 1462672210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i mean the log web pages that don't hurt my eyes < 1462672229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: raw format is definitely _worse_ than what i'm already complaining about tunes doing. < 1462672244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tru dat. < 1462672263 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No the raw format is OK. If you want different format write your own parser for them, and then it can be whatever format you want it to be. < 1462672305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: however, it means all the colored lines look like they're just strewn with random digits. < 1462672306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but what if you don't want to write your own parser, though < 1462672356 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then download a parser that someone else made up and run it on the logs < 1462672405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: your view on what's a convenient interface is not very popular < 1462672554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, if the logs rendered colors and i wanted to check for cheating, _then_ i could use the raw version. (although i don't know if tunes has any.) < 1462672589 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tunes seems to have none but they ought to have raw version. < 1462672601 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro < 1462672607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04 < 1462672628 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erro Error 8: Lol! I can hear rocks! < 1462672633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Error 8: Lol! I can hear rocks! < 1462673066 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462673155 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462673179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1462673180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/essentially+surjective+functor < 1462673186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's what esolangs are about? < 1462673371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that? < 1462673386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this swatter is essentially surjective on shachaf -----### < 1462673821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: I'm making a language called PicoScript you may be interested in < 1462673908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Essentially Surjective Functors are fungots that are Essentially Surjective on Objects (eso) < 1462673908 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: go to c, it has totally adorable pics of his dog. < 1462673939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: people with cloaks will be treated as if they're from Saint Petersburg (not Saint Petersburg) < 1462674002 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean functors and not fungots? < 1462674085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes this makes his next city pair obvious < 1462674112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very close to home. < 1462674661 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462674732 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am not due to chicken yet hth. < 1462674760 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462675304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am very bad at time estimates hth < 1462675331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also lengths, although that comes up far rarer) < 1462675407 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tblqfttjjtuleomb QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462675429 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ubcwkqucfmxqmudq QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462675434 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qclsparchxhzanjy QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462675493 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oglrqxpetixqiqzf JOIN :#esoteric < 1462675504 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tiumfxbhwqbwclsg JOIN :#esoteric < 1462675520 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :length and time are the same. "My friend lives 30 minutes away" is perfectly acceptable. < 1462675537 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrrmmbuzotbbtida JOIN :#esoteric < 1462675560 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think area is inversely proportional to acceleration too. < 1462675585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1462675672 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIMENSIONS < 1462675724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope. < 1462675746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's v^2/r, not v/r^2. < 1462675780 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. hm. eeeerghgh. < 1462675787 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_<'... < 1462675790 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>;... < 1462675823 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462675832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1462675852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try gravitation instead, that fits. < 1462675958 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1462675973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1462676557 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dokwncyjyaffrcao QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462678811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "It's been 30 miles since I last saw you" < 1462678814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that actually works < 1462679155 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. wait for the dimensions to work. the space between them is illusory. all in all, the parts will align as they should. < 1462679193 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: IMPORTANT CHICKEN < 1462679343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462679562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making another implementation if Internet Quiz Engine in JavaScript, which includes a try block to use it as a stand-alone program with Node.js (if it isn't running under Node.js then it will not start automatically, and you must write code to interface it e.g. in a web page). The canonical implementation is still the C version though and new features will be added to the C version first. < 1462679678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why don't you compile one version to the other? < 1462679691 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1462679696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hcf < 1462679702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hcf: not found < 1462679721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :short term memory, oerjan < 1462679728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462679730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface. < 1462679736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hfs < 1462679737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erro 'You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface.' erro "$1" erro 'stands below' < 1462679766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn "hfs//"`hfs` < 1462679767 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They are written in different ways. The C version for running on a gopher server, while the JavaScript version is meant for stand-alone. < 1462679774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hfs» < 1462679777 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462679784 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also don't know how to compile one to the other.) < 1462679790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn "hfs/"`hfs` < 1462679794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «hfs» < 1462679799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hfs < 1462679801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You < 1462679804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462679818 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` le/rn "hfs/`hfs`" # Maybe this way better? < 1462679832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «hfs» < 1462679836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hfs < 1462679838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04You have discovered an eerie cavern. The air aboe the dark stone floor is alive ith vortices of purple light and dark, boiling clouds. Seemingly bottemless pits mark the surface. < 1462679848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: apparently, i didn't know `` worked inside quotes < 1462679851 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or `` le/rn "hfs/$(hfs)" < 1462679863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: was just about to write that. < 1462679864 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now you know < 1462679867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/hfs < 1462679871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462679881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/hfs < 1462679889 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether tromp is still awake < 1462679894 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan moon__ moon__ moon__ moon__ moon__ < 1462679894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time tromp_ < 1462679895 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for tromp_ is 2016/05/07 22:58 -0400 < 1462679928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* no use @tell'ing someone who has random number of _ suffixes. < 1462679949 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "tromp" anything like "trump"? And if it is, is it like whist or like Donald Trump (or both)? < 1462679982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i hope not, or else tromp is probably long since sick of that comparison. < 1462679987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is a trump in whist anything like a trebled fromp in double fanucci? < 1462680003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the rules to double fanucci? < 1462680038 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I do not know the rules of double fanucci, or if a trump in whist is anything like it or not. < 1462680061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played Zork Zero? < 1462680074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts feeling bad, then remembers he's retired again. < 1462680089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Bad about what? < 1462680093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, although I know how cards are in a fanucci deck. < 1462680105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should play Zork Zero. < 1462680109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: about not having an obvious way to tell moon_* i moved it. < 1462680146 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are fifteen suits, each with 0 to 9 and infinity, and nine trumps. (I think?) < 1462680171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you play bridge? < 1462680207 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know how, but I have played only a few times. It is similar to whist but more complicated. < 1462680209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, now I remember. < 1462680224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a trick to winning in Double Fanucci. < 1462680228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also my right foot aches a bit tdnh < 1462680236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three undetrumps after an opponent's discard of a trebled fromp. < 1462680241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess a trump isn't like a fromp. < 1462680256 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and that information is printed on the calendar that comes with the game I think. < 1462680263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1462680269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is difficult to play without the calendar. < 1462680314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the rules change by date? otherwise a calendar seems somewhat off... < 1462680360 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the rules do change by date, but what it says on the calendar is just how Flathead won the game, I Think. < 1462680371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a calendar for the year 883. < 1462680376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1462680387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://infodoc.plover.net/manuals/temp/zork0.pdf < 1462680411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The calendar starts on page 21. < 1462680417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty good. < 1462680429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a game within a game < 1462680501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you read the calendar? < 1462680556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely remembers the game idea contest or whatever a nomic or something had where he tried to submit a game that was outside reality instead. alas people didn't appreciate it ihrc < 1462680565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did read the calendar. < 1462680613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym ierc hth < 1462680622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe it was a different nomic < 1462680647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm pretty sure i'm male, and also it was web-based somehow. it may have been just a forum and not an actual nomic. < 1462680676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i thought agora required spivak pronouns for everyone < 1462680699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they require it when the gender is known. < 1462680736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1462680777 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make up other games with the same fanucci cards just as it can also be done with other card too. < 1462680800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you invent cards such that it's impossible to make up games with them < 1462680846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know. Someone made up "Morgan Tarot" (which despite the name is not a tarot pack), and looks to be too difficult to design a card game, but someone did it anyways. < 1462680853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, the one example of in the current rules is a mistaken "his" in a spot that should be "eir". < 1462680888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure anyone but Michael Norrish is mentioned by name in the rule texts, and there's no pronoun invoked. < 1462680916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is "he" in a judgement quote) < 1462680935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er CFJ quote < 1462681046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ski < 1462681047 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ski is Sun May 8 05:17:26 2016 < 1462681125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the Town Fountain rule has more names/nicks. but no singular pronouns. < 1462681265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Birthday Rule. that may be all, although i don't know how to search. < 1462681298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the Birthday Rule has some singular pronouns, but not third person ones.) < 1462681754 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462681794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: hi you have too many _s also i move hfs to wisdom hth < 1462681801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*moved < 1462681885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have too few _s so it works out hth < 1462681961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmb < 1462681975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought he included an l < 1462682000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure whether his finger motorics or his keyboard is the most defect < 1462682018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should hire a detect to find out for you hth < 1462682020 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462682028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausib < 1462682763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else on here once made a quiz file for use with Internet Quiz Engine, related to esoteric programming language. I will make this program you can test it more easily by locally too. < 1462682826 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462682856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462683257 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1462683289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie (There was a tiny-font disclaimer in the end about how this version of the story "is the one the author wishes to believe".) <-- have em do the holocaust next hth < 1462683289 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462683637 0 :Kaynato!?@? NICK :Caesura < 1462683740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? norway < 1462683758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway is the suburb capital of Sweden. It's where the Nobel Peace Prize is announced. < 1462683811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas (I added some stupid wisdom entries in private message again.) <-- good i'm retired so i don't have to complain that we rewrote the learn commands precisely so we could check wisdom additions just by reading the logs hth < 1462683811 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462683848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append norway It was invented by King Taneb I in in the 9th century. < 1462683881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: adding wisdom entries in /msg is a bit of a scow move imo < 1462683891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're pranks < 1462683908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know if there comes a time in life when you start getting _less_ grumpy again twh < 1462683921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./!\.´ < 1462683922 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emergency signal toggled < 1462683948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you expecting an answer from someone older than you < 1462683965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if anything i should be the one asking this question < 1462683965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< < 1462683967 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know which way it is toggled? < 1462683979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You check the logs for the number of times it's been toggled so far. < 1462684007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds like a job for hg < 1462684010 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think is better not to add by private because if it public then it can be copied to all of the available logs automatically. < 1462684053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1462684059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work. < 1462684071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. i'm retired. now where's my cane... < 1462684138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subtly spreads some grass seeds around him < 1462684185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462684257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1462684263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. < 1462684326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append #esoteric oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1462684332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1462684404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/mon[^.]*/After monqy left it's slightly off-center/' wisdom/#esoteric < 1462684407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1462684417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/mon[^.]*/After monqy left it'"'"'s slightly off-center/' wisdom/#esoteric < 1462684419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462684422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: centër hth < 1462684424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1462684425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it's slightly off-center. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1462684473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/enter/entër/ wisdom/#esoteric < 1462684477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462684488 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1462684490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? english channel < 1462684492 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english channel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462684525 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figuring out how to get WebRTC JS to talk to my C server is killing me < 1462684539 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even slowly, but very rapidly < 1462684552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1462684553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your infamous mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462684582 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I wrote in the back file for the level20.tex story that Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe play Double Fanucci game against a half dragon and lost; if it was a real dragon then he would be killed instead. < 1462684583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/infamous/retired/' wisdom/oerjan < 1462684586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462684601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn english channel/If it existed, the English Channel would separate Hexham from Finland. < 1462684604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «english channel» < 1462684608 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since it is half dragon it is only the loss of ten perica (approximately) < 1462684623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r chann wisdom < 1462684641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#programming:No such channel. See `? #esoteric \ wisdom/esoteric:This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. \ wisdom/stereotype:A stereotype is a two-channel monotype. \ wisdom/fungot:fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. \ wisdom/finland:Finland is a European c < 1462684661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r nnël wisdom < 1462684663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462684667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/If it existed/Were it to exist/ < 1462684668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sedlast: not found < 1462684669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462684695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry about this. i got tired of the race conditions. < 1462684704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed bin/sedlast | grep summary: < 1462684721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: rm bin/sedlast \ summary: mkx bin/sedlast//files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" \ summary: mkx bin/sedlast//sed -i "$1" "$(lastfiles)" < 1462684723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: scow move imo hth < 1462684740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you can put back since i retired hth < 1462684744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*put it < 1462684879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, maybe a sed file//s/.../.../ command would be sufficient < 1462684887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write it as penance for deleting the other file twh < 1462684891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just copy the code from mk < 1462684948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462684952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/f < 1462684953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ cmd="$1" \ shift \ f="$*" \ if [[ -z "$f" && "$cmd" == *\ * ]]; then f="${cmd#* }"; cmd="${cmd%% *}"; fi \ if [[ -z "$f" ]]; then echo try: \`f command filename; elif [[ -e "$f" ]]; then "$cmd" "$(< "$f")"; else echo no such file: "$f"; fi < 1462684971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's space-delimited, though < 1462685011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces are scow hth < 1462685017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the wrong order < 1462685018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work for wisdom/english channel < 1462685062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed bin/sedlast < 1462685068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 7813:8bc49d1253ed \ user: HackBot \ date: Fri May 06 00:36:07 2016 +0000 \ summary: rm bin/sedlast \ \ changeset: 7780:87f80d4bcedd \ user: HackBot \ date: Fri May 06 00:15:56 2016 +0000 \ summary: mkx bin/sedlast//files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; c < 1462685075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 7813 < 1462685084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file bin/sedlast < 1462685093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1462685094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" < 1462685104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy for more < 1462685229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're practically compliant with the haskell report these days < 1462685267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1462685299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, i can't blame you < 1462685305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were already tired, and then you got tired again < 1462685332 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1462685345 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ski < 1462685350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ski < 1462685351 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ski is Sun May 8 06:29:11 2016 < 1462685361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're up pretty late hth < 1462685363 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time shachaf < 1462685365 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Sat May 7 21:29:23 2016 < 1462685369 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time lambdabot < 1462685369 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? < 1462685376 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1462685396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1462685397 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Sun May 8 06:29:56 2016 < 1462685415 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan must be one of those early morning birds < 1462685415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ski < 1462685416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462685440 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Just like you? < 1462685498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided that you mean that i've been up for 10 hours. < 1462685501 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's a case of "leaned so far `foldr' they came back `foldl'" < 1462685589 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been up for .. hmm .. `20' hours, perhaps < 1462685642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime < 1462685642 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime: 5d 13h 11m 53s, longest uptime: 1m 12d 14h 14m 14s < 1462685654 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: no wonder you're acting like that < 1462685670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Perhaps the time has come to wrap up this document. :-) < 1462685678 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i don't think i have much more, ontopic, to add to atm < 1462685694 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happy to hear more about the topic at one point. :-) < 1462685708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a book or nlab or something and work through all these definitions until they make sense. < 1462685739 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was pondering "decreasing naturals" a little bit earlier < 1462685771 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462685899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decreasing naturals < 1462685901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462685913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you've infected my keyboard tdnh < 1462685938 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you'll in general only know an upper bound of the natural number < 1462685966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Are there any interesting algorithms that run in Theta(BB(n)) time? <-- no, see http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725#comment-1084808 < 1462685966 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462685976 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i define decreasing naturals as the limits of decreasing infinite sequences of natural numbers < 1462686007 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, in practice, as infimum, or alternatively another similar thing. but the "rough idea" is "limits") < 1462686043 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is how to compute with decreasing natural numbers < 1462686098 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you take infimum, or the other thing, then any infinite sequence of natural numbers would work. but you can reduce that case to the simpler decreasing infinite sequence case) < 1462686111 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure what "the other thing" is called < 1462686117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: decreasing infinite sequences of natural numbers are eventually constant hth < 1462686161 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : unfortunately, proving that requires Lesser Principle of Omniscience < 1462686165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa, comment 123 < 1462686175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: aka induction hth < 1462686191 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you know there's a `0' in the sequence. in that case it works, yes) < 1462686198 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : no, induction is computable < 1462686199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone finds turing machines more intuitive than lambda calculus? < 1462686207 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :LPO isn't known to be computable < 1462686223 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, probably one can show it isn't in `Eff' or something < 1462686225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: oh you're doing some constructive nons^Wresearch, don't mind me... < 1462686261 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : if this wasn't constructive, then "decreasing naturals" would already be iso to "naturals", rendering the whole question uninteresting :) < 1462686273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shocking < 1462686317 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : the question was how to *compute* with decreasing naturals. ergo, we're doing constructive reasoning :) < 1462686362 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( ) < 1462686364 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was pretty sure he was joking from the start, although not about exactly what < 1462686437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the problem with joking, you might end up obligated to read stuff... < 1462686452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION peeks < 1462686496 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1462686503 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Hey hey < 1462686508 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a long time since I was here last < 1462686524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has < 1462686528 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462686546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you tromp's nemesis < 1462686548 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if people remember me :P < 1462686554 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how to add a language < 1462686574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People remember you. < 1462686584 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Iä iä ) < 1462686976 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also ) < 1462687119 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of those are me < 1462687193 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i figured < 1462687654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Golpher14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46972 5* 03Shubshub 5* (+1111) 10Created page with "'''Golpher''' is an esoteric language created to be similar in some ways to Brainfuck but at the same time being its own thing Current Version: 1.0 An online Interpreter can..." < 1462687680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Golpher14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46973&oldid=46972 5* 03Shubshub 5* (+54) 10 < 1462687760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, maybe I should read the whole thread. < 1462688364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Shubshub14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46974&oldid=32166 5* 03Shubshub 5* (-51) 10 < 1462688372 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462688983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46975&oldid=46970 5* 03Shubshub 5* (+14) 10/* G */ < 1462689145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: me too! i'm only a few comments past that point. < 1462689208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathoverflow.net/questions/62859/simpler-statements-equivalent-to-conpa-or-conzfc < 1462689240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll skip following too many links, or i'll never finish tyvm < 1462689266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that link is a short discussion of the same topic from 2011 < 1462689647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_lambda_calculus says that Haskell-style I/O requires a type system, but that isn't true. < 1462689697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that BLC would benefit from Haskell-style I/O, for the things it's typically used for. < 1462689709 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is: http://zzo38computer.org/inquiz/inquiz.js < 1462689846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1462690170 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462690328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also the claim in comment 176 is false < 1462690346 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xfujurxcrxriuuvu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462690366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462690367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd comment if it wasn't so off-topic. < 1462690449 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462690532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, in Haskell you don't even need the number argument. < 1462692004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, there's an advantage to *-kinded naturals over promoted DataKinded naturals: < 1462692009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : If I write data Z = Z; data S n = S n, then I can use [S (S (S Z))] on the value level to compactly express a type argument. < 1462692014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't think there's anything as convenient with DataKinded naturals. < 1462692355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh i hadn't even loaded that < 1462692468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Golpher14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46976&oldid=46973 5* 03Shubshub 5* (+94) 10Smaller Hello World Example < 1462692515 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :&++<'×<&÷+<^-<<×-<#!+<$@-<&@<×-<@++<@<.!<= is Hello World is Golpher < 1462692546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: that's pretty long for a hello world in a golfing language < 1462692553 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not a golfing language < 1462692554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even one without cheating < 1462692566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL THE NAME COULD HAVE FOOLED ME < 1462692571 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a gopher language that happens to have an l in it? < 1462692580 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is gopher? < 1462692590 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462692592 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462692595 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher < 1462692600 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Golpher how you spell the animals name? < 1462692605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1462692605 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1462692623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: you can move the page, unless there's a duplicate < 1462692633 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I move the page < 1462692645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :under More < 1462692672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Shubshub 5* 10moved [[02Golpher10]] to [[Gopher]]: Renamed Language to Correct Spelling < 1462692726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: want me to delete the redirect in the old place? < 1462692747 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it do that automatically? < 1462692755 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want < 1462692759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes a redirect automatically < 1462692770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Golpher10]]": Author request: content was: "#REDIRECT [[Gopher]]" (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Shubshub|Shubshub]]") < 1462692842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46979&oldid=46975 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1) 10/* G */ sp < 1462692888 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: When Phantom_Hoover is around, you should tell him about your language. < 1462692906 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah when it works again It just broke .-. < 1462692951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for one of my patent sortings < 1462693051 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You sort patents? < 1462693091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, language lists < 1462693097 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1462693100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: didn't you retire < 1462693164 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quietly wonders whether it would be easier/nicer to instead of manually creating lists of languages, languages belonged to categories such as 'Joke Language' and 'Esoteric Language', etc, and the lists would be made courtesy of MediaWiki... < 1462693165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was HackEgo < 1462693197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: we discussed that just the other day. < 1462693202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well others did. < 1462693209 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I wasn't watching the other day, I guess. < 1462693211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball are you retired < 1462693212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concentrate and ask again. < 1462693217 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what special magic lets HackEgo know when things have changed on the wiki < 1462693218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball Are you retired? < 1462693220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outlook not so good. < 1462693220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are subtleties. < 1462693235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't look like it hth < 1462693248 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Care to summarize if you remember any? Or should I just go back and read what was said? < 1462693249 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: they're on the same server, and there's some kind of push api < 1462693253 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aah. < 1462693274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so HackEgo is the wiki's push kin? < 1462693307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: well mostly that neither categories or the lists include everything < 1462693313 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't agree < 1462693315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@uptime oerjan < 1462693319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be too tired for puns < 1462693336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i mentioned (ok so i was there) that the names of languages and articles don't always agree for technical reasons. < 1462693359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: also, the Joke language list is much more elaborate with descriptions. < 1462693367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't think that was mentioned) < 1462693403 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I mean, making them agree would be a prerequisite to such a change. :P < 1462693428 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see. Hmmm... < 1462693431 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well... < 1462693441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gopher14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46980&oldid=46977 5* 03Shubshub 5* (+237) 10 < 1462693451 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't see what a bad outlook has to do with whether i'm retired hth < 1462693464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you might be retired, but HackEgo isn't < 1462693473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so stop editing the wiki and start editing HackEgo hth < 1462693616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'd swat you but i don't know how to do it in russian hth < 1462693657 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462693703 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prntscr.com/b1l9ia < 1462693744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that the website that tracked its visitors and told you all sorts of details about them? < 1462693755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, all websites do that. < 1462693762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Shubshub14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46981&oldid=46974 5* 03Shubshub 5* (-1) 10 < 1462693767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they don't all tell you. < 1462693855 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462694061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46982&oldid=46979 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+7) 10order! also piped link. < 1462694078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, GHC is getting explicit type application? https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/5296 < 1462694094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that ancient news < 1462694112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? I didn't hear about it. < 1462694129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been paying attention much. < 1462694130 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whispers "Someone should write a Gopher -> Brainfuck Converter" < 1462694130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm backlogged to middle march, and i still know that. < 1462694144 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462694154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm backlogged to about a year ago. < 1462694170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't you do haskell any more < 1462694177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really? < 1462694180 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to add a function that lets it loop back to the start of the code < 1462694184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I grouch in #haskell. < 1462694188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know why, though. < 1462694190 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like 99 bottles of beer can be short then < 1462694194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. neither do i, fwiw. < 1462694226 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw I golfed 99 Bottles of beer in JS < 1462694227 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :b=" bottle";e=(c=" of beer")+" on the wall. ";j=b+e;for(i=100;--i;)h=(k=(g=b+"s")+e)+i+g+c+"\nTake 1 down & pass it around, ",console.log(i+(i<2?j+i+b+c+"\nGo to the store & buy some more, 99"+k:i<3?h+1+j:h+(i-1)+k)) < 1462694231 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :216 Characters < 1462694237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet you still knew about it < 1462694256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo oerjan-upsmanship < 1462694278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i didn't do haskell, not that i didn't read about it. < 1462694287 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, do what in russian? < 1462694302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: swat shachaf for his pushkin pun hth < 1462694629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foo [Z] < 1462694630 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1462694648 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foo [S (S (S Z))] 1 2 3 < 1462694650 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1462694662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to complain on the mailing list that this is more compact than DataKinds. < 1462694681 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION даёт shachaf по щеке за его словесные игры < 1462694686 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ oerjan, will that suffice? < 1462694693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now that I see that they implemented type application, I guess I'll scrap the complaint. < 1462694701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: it's missing an important ingredient hth < 1462694726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: also what do you think of all these russian people < 1462694739 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which ones? < 1462694757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like vissarion belinsky and alexander herzen and mikhail bakunin and ivan turgenev < 1462694771 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a play about them. it was pretty good. < 1462694844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, herzen is pronounced with a g? < 1462694849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: not really, it's a flyswatter < 1462694851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gertzen < 1462694864 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has grown up in America, and is mostly oblivious to Russian culture :( < 1462694865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or a gullswatter? < 1462694872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps a gallswatter < 1462694899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: well these well all 19th century people anyway < 1462694997 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't had the chance to meet them recently. < 1462695003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: well pushkin is also in it < 1462695006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he's p. famous < 1462695091 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has vague recollections of many of those names (pushkin - of course, mikhail bakunin - somewhere, turgenev - also somewhere, gertzeg also rings a bell, but zgrep has not heard of belinsky...) < 1462695125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bakunin was a bit of a clown in the play < 1462695129 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Originally I did have a +2 and -2 symbol in Gopher < 1462695132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe also in life, if the play is accurate < 1462695134 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it made the output look fugly < 1462695256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So now the order of type variables matters? < 1462695266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Major scow if you ask me. < 1462695334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462695368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( does this affect the PVP >:) ) < 1462695397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they allow ambiguous types now, too? < 1462695407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (show . read) :: (Show a, Read a) => String -> String < 1462695433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there ever an issue with ambiguous types where there are multiple type variables and the compiler needs to choose an order? < 1462695449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems really touchy to specify that. < 1462695468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like there's a paper... < 1462695488 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode makes the output go beserk < 1462695492 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many +128 and -128 < 1462695529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i vaguely think they settled on "you can only use type application on an identifier" to prevent ambiguities < 1462695568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I "let f = ambiguousExpression in f @A @B"? < 1462695600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not exactly sure. it's possible f needs a type signature. < 1462695626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In practice, these guidelines mean that visible type application is available only on types that are given by an annotation." < 1462695630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so. < 1462695681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like making the order matter like that. < 1462695723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it remains to see if this extension will be useable in practice. < 1462695784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd certainly be glad to get rid of the whole Proxy nonsense. < 1462695793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, can I have a type as a member of an existential? < 1462695810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that PVP thing could be an issue ... your code could break because someone not using the extension thought rearranging a type signature was a minor version change) < 1462695825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data T = forall a. K a => T < 1462695858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That only matters to people who write real code rather than play with the type system, though. < 1462695859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't see why not < 1462695876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not either, but did they actually implement it? < 1462695910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know. < 1462695920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also versions are scow. < 1462695921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't _entirely_ up to date to hasekll. < 1462695955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The right way to manage versions is to put all the code in the world into one repository and always keep it up to date. < 1462696011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm happy to see you weren't being serious. < 1462696033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1462696048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not serious in that that's not workable in practice. < 1462696056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's what e.g. Google does, and it works pretty well there. < 1462696109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: That only matters to people who write real code rather than play with the type system, though. <-- yes, but if they use this extension to get rid of Proxys, it might leak into real code pretty soon? < 1462696171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the point is why would you or i care about it hth < 1462696180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURE < 1462696194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reject the fascism of the keyboard < 1462696199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not turing-complete hth < 1462696224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually someone tried to hire me to write real haskell code the other day < 1462696229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should do that < 1462696852 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462697211 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1462698208 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1462698269 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1462698298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'daneb < 1462698308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :invent anything good overnight? < 1462698327 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know yet, I haven't read the logs < 1462698414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you find out at the same time as the rest of us? < 1462698479 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when I'm asleep, no < 1462698497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I always assumed you knew as soon as you invented things. < 1462698508 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess you only find out about it from IRC. < 1462698540 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy the surprise < 1462698584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually logread? < 1462698605 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes, not always or even often < 1462698643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost tanebvented a whole bunch of things but I didn't put them in HackEgo. < 1462698709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what do you think of sondheim < 1462698734 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was once in a production of Into the Woods once < 1462698736 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was fun < 1462698768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does linear logic deal with things that happen once once? < 1462698774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you need linear linear logic? < 1462698797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: imo sweeney todd is tg hth < 1462698849 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :omnomnom < 1462698849 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweeney Todd is transgender? < 1462698857 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that in London a few years ago < 1462698858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good < 1462698882 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that makes somewhat more sense < 1462699282 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone made anything cool with Gopher yet? :P < 1462699380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has been posting a lot of Gopher programs. < 1462699480 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1462699492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this channel. < 1462699503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly before you joined. < 1462699531 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462699538 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt even add the language before I joined today < 1462699551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet. < 1462699992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly < 1462700011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wikipedia article for 2001: A Space Odyssey < 1462700022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to contain the utterance "An unknown source on IRC has verified that everyone knows or reasonably should know about this film. Anyone claiming not to be aware of it, is feigning ignorance." < 1462700054 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462700138 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Phantom_Hoover < 1462700145 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said I should show you my new language < 1462700152 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a brainfuck derivative < 1462700160 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gopher < 1462700193 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell them i outsourced that sort of thing to hppavilion[1] some time ago < 1462700255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: I'm not sure whether to be angry by the description. Allow me to investigate the langauge < 1462700265 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1462700325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: OK, it seems like it doesn't trivially reduce to brainfuck without thought. So I'll give you a pass. < 1462700333 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1462700364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers going through the list of BF Derivatives and giving an approve/deny on the talk page < 1462700365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1462700376 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :What constitutes an approve? < 1462700381 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't ; and : the same? < 1462700387 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1462700389 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :; is -128 < 1462700390 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is +128 < 1462700415 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the table is only 128 chars long, right? < 1462700422 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you count Unicode < 1462700437 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode !=ASCII < 1462700451 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1462700481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: OK, you just lost points for confusing those two < 1462700485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: Like, a lot of points. < 1462700491 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't confuse them < 1462700496 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just cbf to change it < 1462700571 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :k I updated the github page < 1462700639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gopher14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46983&oldid=46980 5* 03Shubshub 5* (+2) 10 < 1462700921 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add the ability to have Nested For Loops as an actual symbol < 1462700933 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way its less reliant on the language the interpreter is written in < 1462701053 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462701055 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462701302 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462701363 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. < 1462701478 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1462701620 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't like making the order matter like that. < 1462701645 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse, imho, would be to make the actual names used in the quantifier matter < 1462701657 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc, Agda actually does this ?) < 1462703463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462705384 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space < 1462706308 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462706649 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462706748 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462706838 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462708022 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462708305 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462708575 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462708724 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:689a:1c8:20e:5b5e JOIN :#esoteric < 1462709728 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1462709859 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462710297 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, shachaf: Great. So if I use HackEgo here then I'm spamming the channel, and if I use it in private message, then you can't check the logs (despite that there's a mercurial you can just ask for changes in wisdom). I can't win. < 1462710532 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:4cc2:c057:cd43:d8a QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462710797 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:689a:1c8:20e:5b5e QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462710916 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we don't even have anyone from Hexham on the channel anymore. < 1462711200 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I added a lastwisdoms command that prints the last modified wisdoms, with dates when they were last modified. (it's uniqed, so each wisdom printed only once, when it was last modified, since people including me often edit wisdoms multiple times in quick succession) < 1462711205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ^ < 1462711223 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was already a lastfiles command by the way < 1462711295 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462711302 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastwisdoms does this work? < 1462711315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-08 english channel oerjan #esoteric hfs 2016-05-07 amnesium wisest human gene ray adventure timecube time cube tas ta wisdom/tas 2016-05-06 huh ta acab brainfuck hms pinafore wisdoom tanebvention robot wisdom/tanebvention bbc ciol 2016-05-05 violation 2016-05-04 imho 2016-05-03 substructural typing jnk/userwep < 1462711351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh... what's that with ta wisdom/tas there? < 1462711356 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that real? < 1462711359 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1462711371 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you modify two wisdom entries at the same command it breaks < 1462711389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462711405 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to fix < 1462711629 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 2016-05-08 < 1462711631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-08? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462711654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1462711665 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? english channel < 1462711667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it existed, the English Channel would separate Hexham from Finland. < 1462711677 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? amnesium < 1462711679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An amnesium is a school where you forget everything you learned after each test. < 1462711708 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ta wisdom/tas < 1462711711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ta wisdom/tas? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462711712 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no no < 1462711729 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's two wisdom files changed in that commit, "wisdom/ta" and "wisdom/tas" < 1462711747 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm trying to find out how to use hg so it prints those unambiguousyl rather than just separated by a space < 1462711765 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... good luck < 1462712002 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg export --nodates -r tip | grep ^+++ < 1462712014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+++ b/bin/lastwisdoms < 1462712679 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:689a:1c8:20e:5b5e JOIN :#esoteric < 1462713516 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the documentation, you're supposed to... well, to quote: < 1462713519 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some sample command line templates: < 1462713529 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Join the list of files with a ", ": < 1462713535 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : $ hg log -r 0 --template "files: {join(files, ', ')}\n" < 1462713545 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not a-working. < 1462713605 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the other sample seems to be working. < 1462713643 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --template "{date|shortdate}:{join(files, '-')}\n" < 1462713647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​** unknown exception encountered, please report by visiting \ ** http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/BugTracker \ ** Python 2.7.3 (default, Jan 2 2013, 13:56:14) [GCC 4.7.2] \ ** Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.2.2) \ ** Extensions loaded: \ Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/usr/bin/hg", line 38, in \ mercurial.dis < 1462713650 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1462713654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg version < 1462713657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.2.2) \ (see http://mercurial.selenic.com for more information) \ \ Copyright (C) 2005-2012 Matt Mackall and others \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. < 1462713663 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 3.8.1) < 1462713712 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and the other example that I thought was working -- {files % '{file}\n'} -- just actually does the same as plain {files}, separates them by spaces rather than doing one line per file. < 1462713725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it's just too old. < 1462713738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg help templates | paste < 1462713761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.29213 < 1462713785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't mention any of that stuff. < 1462714468 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks, I'll try < 1462714488 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If nothing else, you could DIY it from a "{date|shortdate}\0{rev}\0" template + modify the perl part to pre-expand /^\d+$/ with some suitable hg magic to get files for one revision. < 1462714529 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like how it just goes and crashes when given something it doesn't grok.) < 1462714550 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but how do I distinguish between someone modifying one file "wisdom/a wisdom/b" and someone modifying two files "wisdom/a" and "wisdom/b"? < 1462714578 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you can get the list of files for *one* revision in a not-just-space-separated form. < 1462714636 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically, you could test for each file with a file pattern I think < 1462714642 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be ugly work < 1462714659 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int-e had a "hg export | grep ^+++"-y approach that looks plausible, for the single revision case.) < 1462714762 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hello < 1462714815 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1462714840 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record: < 1462714841 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ps auxww | fgrep -c '[python] ' < 1462714841 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :1552 < 1462714856 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should really make the hackbot code wait for those pythons. < 1462714863 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg status --change -n0 would be even better, but it's way too slow. < 1462714882 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many of those are my fault. < 1462714949 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, hackego is so slow now < 1462714950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1462714960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462714976 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many umlbox processes as well. < 1462714979 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hg root < 1462714989 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's pile them on < 1462714999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1462715117 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1462715117 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1462715262 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1462715262 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 081220Z AUTO 12015KT 9999 NCD 26/08 Q1006 NOSIG < 1462715266 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. < 1462715695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg diff -c 7938 | grep ^diff < 1462715699 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff -r ff34e0948c3e -r b4d8bd1a2c8f wisdom/ta \ diff -r ff34e0948c3e -r b4d8bd1a2c8f wisdom/tas < 1462715702 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the diff idea might work < 1462715716 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but eww < 1462715731 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll just leave it this way < 1462715744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you change more than one wisdom entry, you'll get that junk in the output, so what < 1462715759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care enough to work around your stupid mercurials for this < 1462715765 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also get non-wisdom junk if you change wisdom and non-wisdom files. < 1462715777 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think so < 1462715780 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but let me try < 1462715781 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:41 2016-05-08 english channel oerjan #esoteric hfs 2016-05-07 amnesium wisest human gene ray adventure timecube time cube tas ta wisdom/tas 2016-05-06 huh ta acab brainfuck hms pinafore wisdoom tanebvention robot wisdom/tanebvention bbc ciol 2016-05-05 violation 2016-05-04 imho 2016-05-03 substructural typing jnk/userwep < 1462715787 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :See "jnk/userwep" on the above output. < 1462715795 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may have been pushed off by now. < 1462715803 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462715811 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whatever, I'm not interested < 1462715815 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone fix it yourself < 1462715838 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave it an honest attempt, but if mercurial is just stupid < 1462715841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hackego is slow < 1462715854 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'll rather work on making termbot better or something < 1462715876 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :An up-to-date version would make it trivial. < 1462715878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ... < 1462715882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​...? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462715897 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should maybe look into whether I could update the system in that chroot. < 1462715970 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, with a current version it should be just --template "{date|shortdate}\0{join(files,'\0')}\0" to get the sort of list you want.) < 1462716076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462716084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and a faster hackego < 1462716109 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... as for termbot, I split it the emulated image to two disks, a system disk and a user disk < 1462716127 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /bin/ls -t .hg/store/data/wisdom/** | perl -pe 'chomp; s=^.hg/store/data/wisdom/(.*).i$=\1 =; s=_(.)=uc($1)=eg; s=~([0-9a-f][0-9a-f])=chr(hex($1))=eg' < 1462716129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english channel oerjan #esoteric hfs amnesium wisest human gene ray adventure timecube time cube tas huh ta acab brainfuck hms pinafore wisdoom tanebvention bbc ciol violation imho userweps 🐚 overlord alpha companion cube butterfly cipation password wat tribble prefixes itymology philosophy ¿ insurance numbe < 1462716131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system disk can be reverted, and I can upgrade it without affecting the user disk < 1462716143 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can upgrade the system easily without losing data on the user disk < 1462716157 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¿ < 1462716159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? < 1462716174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intent is that if you mess up something in the image, then you can revert the system disk with an irc command, and it should boot fine < 1462716185 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that almost works, but not quite, < 1462716193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the irc command currently doesn't work but I can fix that, < 1462716209 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's one more problem < 1462716257 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the user disk is used a little at boot up, so if you mess it up a lot then you can't fix it throuhg irc because the system won't boot < 1462716268 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should at least fix the revert command < 1462716272 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or remove it or something < 1462716273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1462716351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could have two commands, one for restoring the user disk, one for restoring the system disk < 1462716399 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll think about this < 1462716959 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462717051 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462717051 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1462717104 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462717178 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462717264 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462717510 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462718443 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462718542 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462718927 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastwisdoms < 1462718930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/2016-05-08/ english channel // oerjan // #esoteric // hfs // /2016-05-07/ amnesium // wisest human // gene ray // adventure // timecube // time cube // tas // /2016-05-06/ huh // ta // acab // brainfuck // hms pinafore // wisdoom // tanebvention // bbc // ciol // /2016-05-05/ violation // /2016-05-04/ imho // /2016-05-03/ userweps // 🐚 // ov < 1462719021 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 2016-05-06 < 1462719023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-06? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462719023 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's become terribly ugly. :) < 1462719035 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /2016-05-06/ < 1462719036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/2016-05-06/? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462719043 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /2016-05-06/ huh < 1462719045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/2016-05-06/ huh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462719050 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a DATE < 1462719053 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: those are just the dates they were added hth < 1462719055 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE RIGHT < 1462719056 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM SORRY < 1462719074 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be hth < 1462719085 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought about it. // is impossible to fake, and a leading / as well. < 1462719100 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1462719101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1462719103 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, "impossible") < 1462719110 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's always zero-width spaces < 1462719119 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adventure < 1462719120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in a 20 foot by 20 foot stone room. A stout oaken door banded with iron affords the only visible egress. As you approach the door, an imp appears. "Hello, INSERT NAME. To pass, you must solve my puzzle. SEE HANDOUT 1 ON PAGE 17." < 1462719132 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lastwisdoms < 1462719132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find .hg/store/data/wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 /bin/ls -t | perl -pe 'use POSIX;chop;$d=strftime("%F",localtime((stat($_))[9]));s=^.hg/store/data/wisdom/(.*).i$=\1 // =;s=^=/$d/ = if$d ne$p;$p=$d;s=_(.)=uc($1)=eg;s=~([0-9a-f][0-9a-f])=chr hex$1=eg' < 1462719186 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462719251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“those are just the dates they were added hth” added or deleted, unless you changed that too < 1462719265 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :last modified < 1462719273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462719276 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows deleted wisdoms too < 1462719280 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is probably a feature < 1462719292 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since it's not actually looking at the commits but at the hg store... not sure what happens when you rename files.) < 1462719295 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it doesn't show people sneakily editing bin/\? though) < 1462719309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to revert... but I had to push this approach through < 1462719329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you're talking about the formatting, it's fine for me < 1462719350 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462719367 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462719377 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462719401 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :renames should show the "new" file. so they are visible < 1462719419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's test < 1462719436 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vi wisdom/{,professor\ }gene\ ray < 1462719438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/gene ray' -> `wisdom/professor gene ray' < 1462719442 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastwisdoms < 1462719445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/2016-05-08/ professor gene ray // english channel // oerjan // #esoteric // hfs // /2016-05-07/ amnesium // wisest human // gene ray // adventure // timecube // time cube // tas // /2016-05-06/ huh // ta // acab // brainfuck // hms pinafore // wisdoom // tanebvention // bbc // ciol // /2016-05-05/ violation // /2016-05-04/ imho // /2016-05-03/ < 1462719453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vi wisdom/{professor\ ,}gene\ ray < 1462719456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/professor gene ray' -> `wisdom/gene ray' < 1462719474 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462719491 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: seems it shows only the new name, not the deleted old name. that could be a problem if someone moves a file out of wisdom, or even hg accidentally detecting a rename out of wisdom < 1462719495 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could hide deletions < 1462719573 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the goal is to make sure oerjan or shachaf can see all the stupid wisdoms I add, then it's fine < 1462719579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdoms.pdf < 1462719580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdoms.pdf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462719583 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdoms < 1462719584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1462719601 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdoms.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wisdoms.pdf': wisdoms.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719606 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdoms.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'wisdoms.pdf': wisdoms.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719615 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.pdf < 1462719618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'wisdom.pdf': wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719624 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1462719627 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1462719632 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1462719643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1462719645 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.pdf < 1462719648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom.pdf is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719649 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, deletions are invisible to that version... since they don't affect the file store, only metadata < 1462719658 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'wisdom.pdf': wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462719691 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok, I don't know how hg works and don't even want to learn it < 1462719711 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's enough for me to try to understand git and its stupid synatx < 1462719722 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sane solution is to update mercurial to a version that supports the {join()} stuff < 1462719732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in git, ":/" is magic syntax for two completely different things. it's horrible. < 1462719765 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hmm, if we install a second mercurial in user-space, will it be able to read this repo? < 1462719865 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should work. < 1462719894 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there binaries we can install to any path, or do we have to build from source for that? < 1462719930 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my principle is that I prefer solutions where we just upgrade well-maintined tools rather than try to work around stuff in old versions) < 1462719946 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tends to reduce code duplication) < 1462720020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only this damned hackego had less latency < 1462720028 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. It's mostly python, but I don't know how they deal with changing file paths. < 1462720034 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-plyvioelwupnxouh QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462720078 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462720082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting fork errors < 1462720091 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls < 1462720122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/ls: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ /hackenv/bin/ls: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/ls: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/ls: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/ls: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/ls: fork: retry: No child processes < 1462720133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf broke that < 1462720167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's=(ls=(/bin/ls=' bin/ls < 1462720170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462720174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1462720175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1462720220 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ps o "cmd" | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn < 1462720222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 CMD < 1462720247 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah, thanks < 1462720446 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nice, the hackego has multiarch lib directories < 1462720477 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny < 1462720698 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462720708 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462720804 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462720880 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know about the date format stuff? < 1462720944 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's at least three different short format to identify an episode in a *tv series* by the ordinal of the season and the ordinal of the episode within the season together. < 1462720972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like "S6 E7", "607", and "6x07" and those are just the common ones < 1462721015 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's partly because people upload tv series episodes to video websites like youtube and want to make the name less easy to search so that youtube doesn't find it so quickly or something < 1462721167 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462721230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time tromp < 1462721230 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for tromp is Sun May 8 10:27:10 2016 < 1462721242 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logs < 1462721243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1462721246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1462721249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^logs < 1462721252 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :%logs < 1462721255 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :&logs < 1462721257 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :$logs < 1462721258 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once saw S IV E III < 1462721259 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462721281 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, roman numerals. really. < 1462721337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I hate the way a lot of the tools at my workplace use american date format and I always get it wrong the first time < 1462721367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UN should pass a resolution against middle-endian dates < 1462721508 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-flzjnpihlyhgdtle JOIN :#esoteric < 1462721709 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462721784 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462722023 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462722056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462722059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I have aliases lik < 1462722061 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1462722062 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1462722063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-08 14:40:59.791682000+00:00 < 1462722064 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462722097 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462722179 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1462722180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sun May 8 14:42:57 UTC 2016 < 1462722357 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I check for reason why the computer rebooted (if it is due to the operating system rather than hardware)? < 1462722386 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, dunno, try to look in system logs for what happened before the reboot < 1462722806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I know which one is when it rebooted? < 1462723042 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a lot of lines like this in the system log: May 7 22:39:01 zzo38computer CRON[23932]: (root) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetim < 1462723070 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I dunno < 1462723096 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me what it is for? It seem to be something related to PHP but why does it need to do that every half hour it seems? < 1462723108 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462723111 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by the way, zzo38: I took my old termbot and modified a little bit, and I'll try to improve it a bit more to make it more useful < 1462723118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's currently running in #termbot in a partly broken state < 1462723122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still tryable < 1462723133 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1462723188 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462723197 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as for that cron entry, try to look in your crontab (there's two of them, beware, a system one in /etc/cron.* and a per-user one in /var/spool/cron/crontabs ) < 1462723202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see the full statement < 1462723292 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it purges old sessions. I don't use PHP sessions, so should I disable that? < 1462723323 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know, but I don't see why that would be a problem or why it would be related to your reboot < 1462723389 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't use php sessions and want to disable the purge cron task, then maybe also try to change the system so that if something tries to create a php session there, it fails < 1462723392 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the reboot was due to power failure actually; I just looked at my clock now and it is flashing. < 1462723398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to have some useless cronjob around that narrows down the time of the crash :P < 1462723415 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah, that's quite possible < 1462723423 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1462723429 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a UPS before that computer/ < 1462723453 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer does have a UPS but the battery does not work so it is only acting as a surge protector. < 1462723504 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I See < 1462723512 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a separate surge protector and no UPS < 1462723564 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure this surge protector actually works < 1462723568 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should buy a new one... < 1462723601 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll put that in my todo < 1462723636 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:689a:1c8:20e:5b5e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462723812 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462725713 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1462725872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the JavaScript implementation of Internet Quiz Engine? < 1462725905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know anything about that. < 1462725935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is http://zzo38computer.org/inquiz/inquiz.js < 1462725967 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C implementation is the canonical version though and new features will still be added to the C version first. < 1462725971 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is awesome, I didn't know about this => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen < 1462726007 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462726008 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the awesome part isn't that such a thing can exist, or even that it might exist in the cores of gas giant planets < 1462726045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the awesome part is that experimental physicists say “core of Jupiter, eh? that sounds easy enough, let's build machines to replicate it.” < 1462726054 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On period table hydrogen is on the left side, with the metals < 1462726061 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes yes < 1462726082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that it can become liquid at high pressure isn't too surprising < 1462726106 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that physicists seriously consider to test that experimentally by creating the large pressure, that is < 1462726110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like < 1462726166 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :experimental physicists are also writing articles about plausible ways of very expensive space-borne equipment to use some sort of lasers in space to create negative energy and wormholes and a time machine or something < 1462726235 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't fund it yet because it would cost much more than some more space-based gravitational wave detector, which is already too expensive to get funded yet (although there are plans, both in China and outside) and would be MUCH more important and useful than any of the time machine stuff < 1462726277 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, they don't just shrug it off as a practical impossibility and say it's the theoretical physicist's job to figure out how that stuff works and they can't help < 1462726380 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462726489 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462726604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, moon < 1462726626 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon___: I figured out that the revert system disk command is currently broken, and wouldn't work if you tried it, so I disabled it for now, < 1462726634 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can still revert the system disk manually when necessary < 1462726640 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might fix it later < 1462726649 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in termbot that is < 1462726686 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462727527 0 :moon___!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462728153 0 :Caesura!?@? NICK :Caesura|Away < 1462728200 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462728554 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should add into inquiz.js the ability to parse namespaced comments, in case you want to use them for formatting in a custom front-end. < 1462728656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think "mutating commands or commands that are interesting to other people go in the channel" is a reasonable rule. < 1462728994 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, I'll try to put more of the wisdom editing stuff in the channel then < 1462729002 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's boring and spamming < 1462729014 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now, just check out those ones in `lastwisdoms or something < 1462729015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it's boring, it probably oughtn't happen at all. < 1462729027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastwisdoms < 1462729033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/2016-05-08/ hydrogen // wisdom.pdf // wisdoms.pdf // gene ray // professor gene ray // english channel // oerjan // #esoteric // hfs // /2016-05-07/ amnesium // wisest human // adventure // timecube // time cube // tas // /2016-05-06/ huh // ta // acab // brainfuck // hms pinafore // wisdoom // tanebvention // bbc // ciol // /2016-05-05/ violat < 1462729052 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gene ray < 1462729053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr Gene Ray is the Greatest Philosopher, and is the Greatest Mathematician. Cubic Harmonics. Only Cubic Harmonics can save humanity. Cubic Harmonics will pacify all religions. 96-hour Cubic Day debunks 1-day unnatural god. 96-hour day willdisprove disunity god. Academians are teaching - pseudocience. Worshipping a Word God will destroy the USA. < 1462729055 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisest human < 1462729057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr Gene Ray is the Greatest Philosopher, and is the Greatest Mathematician. Cubic Harmonics. Only Cubic Harmonics can save humanity. Cubic Harmonics will pacify all religions. 96-hour Cubic Day debunks 1-day unnatural god. 96-hour day willdisprove disunity god. Academians are teaching - pseudocience. Worshipping a Word God will destroy the USA. < 1462729057 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adventure < 1462729059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in a 20 foot by 20 foot stone room. A stout oaken door banded with iron affords the only visible egress. As you approach the door, an imp appears. "Hello, INSERT NAME. To pass, you must solve my puzzle. SEE HANDOUT 1 ON PAGE 17." < 1462729059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? timecube < 1462729060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HORU ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible t < 1462729062 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time cube < 1462729063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HORU ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible t < 1462729073 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.pdf < 1462729074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462729075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdoms.pdf < 1462729078 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdoms.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462729088 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, now you've hopefully seen them < 1462729101 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there's some older ones I added earlier < 1462729105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That entry is too long. It's getting cut off. < 1462729121 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :entirely approperiate in this case I think < 1462729127 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :time cube is too long too < 1462729148 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` \? time\ cube | dd bs=10 skip=30 < 1462729151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10+1 records in \ 10+1 records out \ 106 bytes (106 B) copied, 0.26676 s, 0.4 kB/s \ her days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible time. Lie that corrupts earth you educated stupid fools. < 1462729159 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdoom < 1462729161 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wisdoom is realizing just too late how you could have avoided your demise. < 1462729337 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462729503 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462729579 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, about Pentavus: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pentavus < 1462729600 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has this ability: "(1), Remove a +1/+1 counter from Pentavus: Put a 1/1 colorless Pentavite artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield." < 1462729615 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also this one: "(1), Sacrifice a Pentavite: Put a +1/+1 counter on Pentavus." < 1462729651 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what would happen if it didn't have that second ability, and that first ability instead said: < 1462729687 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1), Remove a +1/+1 counter from Pentavus: Put a 1/1 colorless Pentavite artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield. It has "(1), Sacrifice Pentavite: Put a +1/+1 counter on Pentavus." < 1462729768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no way. then you'd somehow have to remember which Pentavus was created from where. It'd be a serious memory issue, and I'm not even sure the rules support that. Also, you couldn't sacrifice lorwyn-goats to the Pentavus then. < 1462729788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean "a creature named Pentavus"? < 1462729791 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use bits of string to keep track. < 1462729800 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, I mean Pentavus. < 1462729852 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits of string? < 1462729872 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, lay one end of the string on a Pentavite and the other end on its Pentavus. < 1462729896 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could say "on the permanent that created this token" if you want to clarify but yes you will need to keep track. < 1462730009 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no way. "on the permanent that created this token" would be disastrous because it's no longer clear it's linked to the first ability or how it even works if that penatvite was created as a copy (eg. by a populate ability) < 1462730104 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it would be placed on the permanent with the populate ability (if it is a permanent that still exists). Also you can sacrifice it and do nothing if the permanent that created it is now gone. Although, writing "{1}, Sacrifice this creature: Put a +1/+1 counter on ~." could be worked too yes, I suppose. I am not sure if rule support it or not < 1462730138 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462730138 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is something a lot of people enjoy doing that you would NEVER do? < 1462730163 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex, I suppose. < 1462730186 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any thing else that a lot of people do but I don't. < 1462730198 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the rules do support this... I feel like I saw a real card that used this sort of thing. < 1462730238 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Saint Petersburg < 1462730239 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0053 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0050 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S < 1462730249 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Saint Petersburg < 1462730250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0053 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0050 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S < 1462730270 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think you can refer to the identity of the card that gives an ability only if the ability that gives the ability is a continuous one, like on Blazing Torch < 1462730272 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: writing fiction? < 1462730276 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462730291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if the token is copied by a Clone? < 1462730310 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is possible I could write fiction I don't know < 1462730327 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, Blazing Torch is this sort of thing. < 1462730334 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My answer to quintopia's question would be smoking tobacco. < 1462730353 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I for one think the way pentavus works is the best. They can integrate with any Penatvite, including crib swapped babies, not only Pentavites created by them. Much simpler. < 1462730364 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Then nothing created it, so my proposed version would do nothing if you sacrifice the Clone. < 1462730386 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hankyu! < 1462730390 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one I was looking fro < 1462730399 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes I think that does work, it can even work with other permanents with the Pentavite subtype (including ones with changeling) < 1462730414 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hankyu is the best example for a continuous effect that grants an ability that refers to the permanent with the ability with that effect < 1462730414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 writes fiction. Haven't you read danddreclist? < 1462730430 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're welcome. < 1462730437 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just couldn't recall its name < 1462730441 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it mean you can use Artificial Evolution to modify it < 1462730449 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not a good card, mind you) < 1462730454 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah < 1462730468 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have but i don't remember what it is < 1462730470 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes there is that. I don't know how much other fiction I would really write, or how many books in general I would write. < 1462730484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: was it ideas for campaigns or documenting past campaigns? < 1462730491 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although smoking is also something I would probably never do < 1462730540 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking is decreasingly popular anyway. even vaping seems no more popular than cigarettes were not long ago < 1462730590 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that too, that is why I did not mention it at first; it isn't so popular in more recent times < 1462730600 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is smoking decreasing really? I thought it decreased until the 2000s but now it's sort of stagnating < 1462730603 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure < 1462730635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing I am unlikely to do is to carry a cellular phone with touch screen and whatever < 1462730680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the touch screen is just half of what bothers me < 1462730684 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want to know what is something a lot of people enjoy but I don't? < 1462730688 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :about those phones that is < 1462730702 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is to me also just half of what bothers me though < 1462730744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why wouldn't you carry a cellular phone with touch screen and whatever? < 1462730748 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to find a good traditional mobile phone for my grandmother and eventually (possibly only a few years later) for myself. And it's getting increasingly difficult. < 1462730767 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can use a landline phone. < 1462730796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Only when you're on land. < 1462730798 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pepesnonsmokingpartytimelounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Smoking-rates.jpg seems to still be declining < 1462730848 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's for the US < 1462730861 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more interested about Europe, and the urbanized parts < 1462730864 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mainly because i wondered on the probability you would consider writing a novel. i know a lot of people who like writing. < 1462730901 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is the probability that I would consider writing a novel. It is very difficult for me to answer, but I am more likely to write a computer program anyways. < 1462730930 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Smoking is rising alarmingly in Austria; the Eurobarometer found an increase of smoking prevalence in Austria from 31% (2006) to 33% (2012)." (sigh) < 1462730934 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: dropping everywhere but russia: http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/smoking-rates-oecd.jpg < 1462730948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What if it was a novel computer program? < 1462730958 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would that be? < 1462731012 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn novel < 1462731014 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "novel" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1462731014 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :novel < 1462731014 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: original and of a kind not seen before; "the computer < 1462731014 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : produced a completely novel proof of a well-known < 1462731014 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : theorem" [syn: {fresh}, {new}, {novel}] < 1462731016 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines] < 1462731030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we know, computer programs are proofs. < 1462731078 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the change in period 1990 to 2010. smoking was certainly declining between 1990 and 2000, I know that. < 1462731093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's how it is. Yes certainly possibly it can be < 1462731111 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: except in Russia < 1462731124 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I know if the program is similar to other one or not? I do not necessarily know, because I wrote it independently. < 1462731125 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's no more recent data for all of europe or the world readily available) < 1462731137 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zbX7pcC-glo/TzW7zTA7n4I/AAAAAAAAA24/fXpONiMaO8Y/s1600/Smoking+obesity.JPG < 1462731150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One reason for this may be because Austria is one of the last EU countries where the minimum age for purchasing tobacco is 16 years of age. In 2006, state revenues from sales to minors amounted to €60.5 billion -- a breath-taking sum of money." -- brilliant word choice near the end. < 1462731152 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like people are turning in their cigarettes for food < 1462731161 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good decision < 1462731190 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, there might be a point in that < 1462731217 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungary, these days it's actually enforced that people under 18 can't buy tobacco (they can still smoke, but they can't buy it) < 1462731240 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same is enforced about alcohol < 1462731261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure when exactly that started, after 2000 or before < 1462731273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's of course still tons of ways around it < 1462731435 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. since a few months ago, Blaha Lujza tér actually has a nice huge banner next to the McDonalds that buying or selling cigarettes without tax stickers is illegal, advertising to everyone the exact spot where you can meet the shady people who sell untaxed tobacco when the policemen don't happen to be around < 1462731473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a few other spots in the city, like Bosnyák tér, but there aren't many, so the prominent banner helps a lot to anyone who's looking for that sort of thing. < 1462731678 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, int-e! < 1462731679 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laughed hard when they put up that banner. < 1462731702 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for the commits. you've been real busy:) < 1462731780 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :still haven't figured out why the self-distributive law actually works out in the end < 1462731794 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one big mystery in your laver2.lam though < 1462731799 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could read the literature. < 1462731803 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? < 1462731832 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wld expect f_a^{mx-b}(a-1) < 1462731857 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you have f_a^{mxb)(0) < 1462731863 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mx * b = -b (mod mx+1) < 1462731893 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and mx+1 = 2^n is a multiple of the period of the f_a thing) < 1462731982 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha; that's cute! but why (0) instead of (a-1) ? < 1462732008 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes why? < 1462732032 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the code actually uses a-1, just the comment is wrong < 1462732124 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because mx - b = -b-1 (mod 2^n), but I'm computing -b (mod 2^n), so I need to go one more step back in the iteration. < 1462732144 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it uses 0: (\f\x. x) < 1462732174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pred is part of the implementation of f_a < 1462732194 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1462732232 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(context if anybody else cares: https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/laver2.lam ) < 1462732426 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to convince myself that that all recursion is founded:) < 1462732464 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the haskell program? < 1462732496 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be easier to reason about... and to play around with < 1462732511 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran it once; didn't study source yet < 1462732541 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will go for a walk while it's still light outside, see you later < 1462732553 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy < 1462732734 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shld call my mom:-) < 1462732993 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, pressing backspace no longer causes a segmentation fault! < 1462732999 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462733016 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: In what program is that? < 1462733022 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: NOBODY CHICKEN < 1462733028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a text editor < 1462733061 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: great! I'd like one as well < 1462733122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a good text editor, but creating one would be very difficult. I was thinking about it, and there are lots of difficult parts. I might still try at some point, but not yet. < 1462733150 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think vim is mostly good < 1462733167 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started by writing a string library and my own nih version of ncurses < 1462733194 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can tell what I really don't like in vim if someone wants a rant. < 1462733222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK you can say. (There are a few thing I also don't like on vim but I think it is mostly good) < 1462733266 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's things emacs has got right, but I also don't like emacs) < 1462733269 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462733307 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many things built-in doesn't need to be it can use external programs instead and implement macros to execute them. < 1462733347 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I really don't like is how it treats newlines specially, so I can't place my cursor on a newline. This limitation implies you have to use lots of extra commands to be able to do everything: < 1462733393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a separate i and a to be able to insert before or after a character, p and P to put before or after the cursor, lots of crazy movements to be able to yank any substring, etc. < 1462733415 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the line-wise and inclusive movements and line-wise yank-puts that I don't like, which is somewhat similar. < 1462733469 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i and a would most likely be there even if you can select a newline < 1462733469 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In emacs, you can just put the cursor on any character or past the last character, and then insert or put before that character, or delete between any two cursor positions, and this means you can do anything after you learn a few basic commands. < 1462733480 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because of I and A < 1462733503 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i get the point < 1462733518 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how in vim there are lots of extra commands to be able to do things more conveniently, but still, I'd like to be able to do things with very few commands as a beginner, rather than having to learn lots of extra commands because of stupid limitations forced on me. < 1462733573 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like vim having kind of a grammar < 1462733649 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a particular example, consider how backspacing characters works in emacs. To backspace characters right to left from the cursor from any point in the line other than the end, you press X repeatedly. To backspace characters from the end of the line, you have your cursor on the last character of the line, then press x repeatedly, where x normally deletes characters ahead of you from left to right, but in this case it works backwards. It's mind-screwing. < 1462733687 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't see how "crazy movements for yanking" relates to not being able to move atop a newline < 1462733941 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's mostly about the inclusive-exclusive and linewise stuff. my cursor is inside a non-empty line, 3 characters from the end. how do I yank characters up to before the newline? you can press y3l or y$ despite that 3l or $ wouldn't actually move to the newline, it would move to before it. < 1462733969 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1462733998 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you cut characters up to the end of the line including the newline? It's dv+ right? you wouldn't know if you didn't read that crazy stuff from the manual in detail like I do. < 1462734008 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these are the easy ones where there's a movement < 1462734027 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what does v+ do? < 1462734030 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no suitable movement, normally you select a range by marking one end with mb then yank with d`b < 1462734058 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably v$d < 1462734075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: dunno, vi magic. you're not supposed to know, because vi doesn't work like that. you have to like read the manual for years to be able to figure out basic stuff like this. it's not like learning 50 simple commands and being able to do everything. < 1462734082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that doesn't yank the newline, does it? < 1462734087 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1462734088 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since visual-mode allows me to select the newline at the end of the line < 1462734093 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does? < 1462734100 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no suitable movement, normally you select a range by marking one end with mb then yank with d`b -- if you want to yank to the end of a line, this doesn't work, because you can't mark a newline < 1462734103 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to when I tried it no < 1462734106 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1462734128 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, but v+y works I think < 1462734155 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the same behaviour if I v$d or v+d < 1462734160 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: v$d/y does indeed delete/yank the line < 1462734161 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I can tell < 1462734173 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: v$y lets you select up to the newline, and yank before it, because in visual mode $ actually lets you move to the newline, which you aren't normally allowed to do, < 1462734186 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and v+y lets you yank including the newline just like yv$ does < 1462734188 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1462734191 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like yv+ does < 1462734270 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the behaviour you describe when I v$y < 1462734282 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another example, this one about acting on a whole line with operators < 1462734345 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :To indent this line and the next one (two lines together) you press >2> right? easy peasy. How do you indent two lines by three places? 3>2> you'd think? no good, that doesn't work. >2>2. doesn't work either. < 1462734360 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :3>j doesn't work either < 1462734374 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> just doesn't accept a repeat count, no matter what you do, because it applies the repeat count to the range < 1462734376 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:35: parse error on input ‘,’ < 1462734431 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have NO FUCKING IDEA HOW I CAN INDENT WITH A NUMERICAL REPEAT COUNT SHORT OF qq>2>q2@q < 1462734433 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The indentation command don't work so well so I use my own < 1462734448 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, lambdabot < 1462734507 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of configs that mark the lines you just indebted < 1462734514 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can just > again < 1462734515 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like a vim where all the movement commands are strictly character-based exclusive, and you could put the cursor to any newline (not just those in empty lines) and one past the end of the file. < 1462734546 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: oh right, Vj3> actually works < 1462734548 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know < 1462734569 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what for putting it past the end of the file? Filling a selection with characters? < 1462734628 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: go file a pull request on neovim < 1462734634 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: what? it's the same as why you want it at the end of a line. to be able to insert characters anywhere (even the end of the file) with i or put characters anywhere with P or to be able to yank up to anywhere (possibly including the last character of the file too) < 1462734675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm not sure that can even be implemented. don't vim commands sort of assume that the cursor can't be at the eol of a non-empty line and some would just segfault or something if it is? < 1462734685 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh, I misinterpreted that as some number of characters after the EOF < 1462734688 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just at it < 1462734702 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can check for it :p < 1462734788 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: no thanks. editor, terminal emulator, shell, those are the kind of programs that I want really stable and never segfault on me or have bugs. and this includes I compile urxvt without a perl interpreter embedded in it, unlike everyone else, because the right way to make a terminal emulator stable and never segfault on me is to make it small rather than to put a whole perl interpreter and all sorts of "plugins" in the same fucking process. < 1462734810 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want fancy additions, I put them in external processes, like text filters invoked with the | command for an editor. < 1462734862 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what stuff can you do with plugins on urxvt? :o < 1462734911 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree to use external program for many kind of things, vim can do that too but also has built-in stuff < 1462734934 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I've no idea? people try to link stuff in every program. it happens at my workplace too. somehow people think that everything absolutely must happen in the same process, so that a memory corruption bug can cause bugs elsewhere in whole process and you can never localize what caused it, < 1462734974 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462734975 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow also that writing temporary files is somehow bad and you have to patch everything to be able to put the data in memory instead of into a temporary file. < 1462734991 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462734991 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I come from the unix world and don't understand how either of these ideas work. < 1462734996 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wanted to make a terminal emulator. It doesn't need perl interpreter or toolbar or whatever, although I should implement all of the control codes. < 1462734997 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just stupid. < 1462735053 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: terminal emulator is one of those programs I definitely don't want to write, even if I have lots of free time and reimplement lots of stuff, because urxvt is good enough. Sure, I patch urxvt, or debug it, but those are both rare compared to how much it already gets just right. < 1462735061 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this terminal emulator for osx that can display pictures < 1462735101 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could look at LeoNerd's libvterm library < 1462735118 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has very good control code coverage in my experience < 1462735120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xterm can display pictures too, by using Sixel graphics. < 1462735123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was one bug in urxvt I had to debug, until it turned out that it manifested because I build with strange compilation options. That sort of thing seems to happen a lot in my workplace too, where the programs we develop crash or have bugs in ways that manifest for me much more frequently than for others, because of how I use the programs. < 1462735151 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't want that sort of thing in a terminal emulator. I want the terminal emulator to be small and stable. < 1462735163 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few control sequences that I deliberately do not want to implement, but I would implement most of the xterm stuff and also a few DEC VT stuff that xterm does not support. < 1462735176 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this one feature i think is neat: scrolling in time < 1462735230 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat myname < 1462735232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ACTION swats myname -----###. < 1462735241 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, there's a few features I am considering to deliberately disable in urxvt too < 1462735250 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there's one I already conditionally disabled, namely mouse support < 1462735254 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's more < 1462735261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even add some stuff < 1462735268 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmxmmbwiqruojman QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462735272 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I would also have it to display pictures using Sixel graphics. (There are other protocols that may be used by some terminal emulators for display pictures but I don't put any of those) < 1462735274 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/mouse support/application mouse support/ < 1462735345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make it to change the mouse cursor shape to XC_arrow when application mouse support is selected so that you can easily tell the difference, if you hold shift it changes back to XC_xterm so that you can still use it for the ordinary function too < 1462735475 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, despite all the tiny negatives, urxvt works really well, and I use it a lot, and, I know this is calling fate against me, but still I dare to do it: urxvt has never crashed for me. never. < 1462735479 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even when I patched it. < 1462735502 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's dangerous to say that, because I recently called out how 7zip never crashes, then a day after that is crashed. < 1462735511 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm confident I can do that for urxvt. < 1462735566 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I would support only the X bitmap fonts and no antialiased fonts or other formats. < 1462735616 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I get an SSH acct < 1462735650 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: currently I use urxvt with X bitmap fonts, but I think eventually I may want to display graymap fonts in it, because graymap font can be more readable than a bitmap one < 1462735652 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also many resource settings are not needed because it can instead be done by adding one resource containing initialization string which is executed when the terminal resets; any escape codes in there are parsed to set the terminal settings. < 1462735710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making my font bigmap because it's easier to create and use, not because bitmap is somehow inherently better than graymap, I don't know about \oren\ < 1462735872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bitmap fonts is better in most cases < 1462735896 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why? < 1462735918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you're not using some sort of ultra-high resolution monitor, are you? < 1462735934 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, one with resolution higher than 150 pixels per inch < 1462735970 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were using a 360 dpi monitor, then I could understand saying that bitmap fonts are better < 1462735984 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't ultra-high resolution < 1462736081 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 96 pixels per inch it looks like < 1462736093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I measured it) < 1462736126 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, so normal resolution. < 1462736249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and I am using xterm with the default "fixed" bitmap font. < 1462736275 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: didn't you have some sort of modified font? < 1462736290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, that wasn't you < 1462736292 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1462736297 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: at what font size? < 1462736310 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At the beginning of your upkeep, if you cast Santhon Airood, sacrifice it unless you exile it, and put it onto the battlefield. Then destroy it." < 1462736339 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what? < 1462736352 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's from a RoboRosewater card. < 1462736409 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 6x9 < 1462736513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It is no sense, I think. < 1462736546 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you cast Santhon Airood" is an interesting condition. I'm trying to figure out what it means. < 1462736550 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what object are you destroying? < 1462736561 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The object that you put onto the battlefield. < 1462736571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a RoboRosewater card. that explains it. < 1462736591 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think "If you cast Santhon Airood" does makes sense. it's the "Then destroy it." which I don't get. < 1462736604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: there are cards with conditions like "if you cast it" for when it etb < 1462736617 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i committed tiny improvements, size 212 now < 1462736619 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Phage is the famousest < 1462736633 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You either sacrifice or exile the card. Then you put the sacrificed or exiled card onto the battlefield. Then you put the card that you put onto the battlefield into your graveyard. < 1462736650 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: oh, that's not how I read it < 1462736688 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I thought you either exile the card and put otb, or else sacrifice it but then don't put otb. < 1462736701 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-flzjnpihlyhgdtle QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462736708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ... dunno < 1462736716 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make much sense in any way < 1462736735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, do you guys remember those random recipes mentioned at some point in this channel? < 1462736740 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were so funny I lmao on them < 1462736749 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bdafvmrfvvygshae JOIN :#esoteric < 1462736751 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can find them < 1462736754 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :food recipes that is < 1462736756 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recipe < 1462736761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recipe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462736767 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be able to find those. < 1462736768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does hackego have a log search? < 1462736770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1462736773 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're certainly in the logs < 1462736780 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc < 1462736780 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't have a local copy of the logs I think < 1462736796 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn recipe/Random food recipes at https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc < 1462736799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «recipe» < 1462736807 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: thanks, that was quickl < 1462736812 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a mixing bowl, beat butter until smooth. Drain on both sides of the refrigerator." < 1462736835 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they're still very funny < 1462736855 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In medium saucepan, beat egg whites in a large bowl.)" < 1462736879 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the worst cookbook ever < 1462736883 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cover and simmer for about 10 hours, stirring constantly." < 1462736917 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*goes back to document on a circuit based cellular automa8 < 1462737000 0 :Caesura|Away!?@? NICK :Caesura < 1462737122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? robososewater < 1462737124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :robososewater? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462737160 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: it's hilarious to me because it's good with syntax but SO badly screwing up food semantics that even I can see how horribly not working any of those recipes are < 1462737163 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 teaspoon salt. 1 teaspoon salt. Salt and pepper, for leaves. 2 cups Grand Marnier. 3 cups water. 1/2 cup flour, softened. 1/2 cup microwave oil. < 1462737163 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cookbook < 1462737165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cookbook? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462737173 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -vi wisdom/{recipe,cookbook} < 1462737176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/recipe' -> `wisdom/cookbook' < 1462737189 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 pounds canned thinly sliced salt. < 1462737239 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 pounds meating chile pepper. Whipped topping. Cream, chopped, sweetened, softened, drained, sliced.' < 1462737257 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't understand how you usually want to stick with either salty ingredients or sweet ones but not both (there are lots of exceptions, but you don't just mix everything at random), it doesn't understand how amounts works so it often tries to take a kilogram of salt with a gram of vegetable, < 1462737298 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't understand how the items in the ingredient lists should be at least related to the items you mention in the instructions. < 1462737299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long do you have to put the oil in microwave though? < 1462737311 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whats makeing this stuff up? < 1462737346 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how much salt and pepper, for leaves? < 1462737366 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "1 teaspoon salt" twice possibly due to you need for two different mixes. < 1462737441 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: a neural net. Karpathy's famous char-rnn program. < 1462737452 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: however much the leaves require. < 1462737466 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I actually thought it did pretty well with amounts. < 1462737545 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even think it's "microwaved oil". It's 1/2 cup of microwave oil. < 1462737551 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't generally oil microwaves. < 1462737687 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462737747 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microwave oil is that oily stuff that you use to heat things in the microwave if they're not normally microwavable. < 1462737819 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once saw in a book mention a recipe for a Chinese food on a container of bean curd. Other than chicken and bean curd it did not give the amount for any of the ingredients. Also the ingredient list includes "gourmet powder" which is not mentioned in the rest of the recipe. There are also two items not listed in the ingredients which are used later on, which are monosodium and a duck. < 1462737857 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "gourmet powder" means MSG. < 1462737966 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the cookbook guy is funny because it doesn't seem to have any concept of hardware conservation (fancy people call that "object permanence"), and all babies learn the concept of hardware conservation way before they can form two-word sentences, even in humorous unrealistic fiction with talking babies, because it's such a basic princible you can't have common grounds without it. < 1462738078 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably pretty much incapable of remembering what ingredients it's already mentioned. < 1462738129 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yeah. and that applies not only to the ingredient list or the instructions, but also the title and header (including title) and the footers < 1462738241 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STRAWBERRY CALF" hehe < 1462738262 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working on something: https://docs.google.com/document/d/181jLmLri6JhxXStLCDOSMt6iSsDln6z9MBv8UlYOFZE/edit?usp=sharing < 1462738289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should add the best url(s) to wisdom/RoboRosewater < 1462738346 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462738369 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "BASIC SAUCE" made of over 30 ingredients, 6 of which is salt < 1462738375 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think salt is its favourite ingredient < 1462738427 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stirring constantly overnight" -- hehe < 1462738436 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice instruction < 1462738444 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the link to see this maddness < 1462738450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recipes < 1462738452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random food recipes at https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc < 1462738454 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: ^ < 1462738464 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: ah, you swapped the arguments, should've tried that < 1462738524 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also swapped the two versions laver*.lam < 1462738544 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, which made the diff a bit useless... < 1462738544 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since mine didnt do much yet < 1462738554 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think I can just buy Self-raspoted coriander Ironicle in a shop, or do I have to raspot it myself? < 1462738555 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that:( < 1462738577 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't want to interfere with your work < 1462738621 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fill the cacaof and or steaming, or should be for a mortar." < 1462738632 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to modify laver.lam < 1462738648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTE: This form of plastic wrap can be furts of hotters and soak breads." < 1462738651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, good to know < 1462738689 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, row 10 of the 8x8 laver table seems to go like 0 1 8 9 0 1 8 9 ... < 1462738694 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/181jLmLri6JhxXStLCDOSMt6iSsDln6z9MBv8UlYOFZE/edit?usp=sharing < 1462738701 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im deviseing a esolang there < 1462738706 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to leave comments < 1462738755 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's nice that trhe search can be started from the smallest laver table < 1462738824 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: oh it seems I broke the pretty-printing part of my program... tsk < 1462738840 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This reminds me < 1462738882 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed. < 1462738905 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed something weird about the blc compiler < 1462738929 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i add a def: four = two tow; after the one for two, then the size increases by 4 bits < 1462738939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the humorist Hofi had a show where he made fun of cooking TV shows. He brings up a case where the video shows the cook taking a pan from the cupboard, the audio says "Take a greased pan", and the video cuts to showing a greased pan, saying something to the effect of "what a good idea! I'll store the pan in the cupboard pre-greased too." < 1462738947 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though four is not used and should be stripped out < 1462738957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a milder case of this lack of object permanence < 1462738957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprinkle each zucchini; add cheese, salt, flour, salt and butter. Add to coat with butter; cook. Add sugar, salt, and almonds. < 1462738984 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: it can still affect other beta reduction ("inlining") decisions < 1462738993 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these recipes would TOTALLY just use a greased pan, and wouldn't even bother taking a pan off the cupboard or announcing "take". they'd just say "in a greased pan". < 1462739011 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, \oren\ < 1462739013 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen you < 1462739019 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: gtg < 1462739021 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since references to everything defined earlier will look bigger) < 1462739027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1462739028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\ < 1462739078 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to cook any of these things? < 1462739087 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no < 1462739116 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I think it was Hofi… maybe it was someone else < 1462739145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on my editor < 1462739162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you were here, you did mention an editor < 1462739168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it segfaults when I press down down backspace < 1462739180 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I told why I don't like vim < 1462739244 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, seriously < 1462739267 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best url(s) for RoboRosewater? if you search, you find lots of references and opinions and twitter posts, but no specific original stuff < 1462739331 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This RoboRosewater works for me https://mobile.twitter.com/roborosewater it also contains a link to the forum which also contains stuff < 1462739349 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc/raw/4fac7a2b87d7b4e042c3117dea11b2993239a964/neural%2520net%2520cooking%2520recipes.txt < 1462739356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-08 19:29:11 URL:https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc/raw/4fac7a2b87d7b4e042c3117dea11b2993239a964/neural%2520net%2520cooking%2520recipes.txt [83573/83573] -> "neural%20net%20cooking%20recipes.txt" [1] < 1462739375 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls < 1462739376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ neural%20net%20cooking%20recipes.txt \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1462739383 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls share < 1462739384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ballreplies \ Complaints.mp3 \ UnicodeData.txt \ WordData \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ cat \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ nothp \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ scapegoats \ sedtest \ units.dat \ usercmds < 1462739398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: uh, you destroyed the 16. < 1462739411 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mkdir share/recipe && mv -vi "neural%20net%20cooking%20recipes.txt" share/recipe/recpies.txt < 1462739415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `share/recipe': File exists < 1462739427 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1462739446 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` stat share/recipe < 1462739448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: `share/recipe' \ Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 1024 directory \ Device: 12h/18d Inode: 927686 Links: 2 \ Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 0/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2016-05-08 19:30:11.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2016-05-08 19:30:10.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2016-05-08 19:30:10.000000000 +000 < 1462739457 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -a share/recipe < 1462739461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ .. < 1462739471 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :```mv -vi "neural%20net%20cooking%20recipes.txt" share/recipe/recpies.txt < 1462739472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``mv: not found < 1462739473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vi "neural%20net%20cooking%20recipes.txt" share/recipe/recpies.txt < 1462739476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`neural%20net%20cooking%20recipes.txt' -> `share/recipe/recpies.txt' < 1462739494 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: anyway, the difference is that (\two (\x. x x) two) two becomes (\two (two two)) two instead of (\x. x x) two. But the (\x. x x) should be (\x. x x x) < 1462739539 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, lemme fix that < 1462739557 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/=\999;seek STDIN,rand((-s STDIN)-299),0 or die;print;' < share/recipe/recipes.txt < 1462739559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: share/recipe/recipes.txt: No such file or directory < 1462739579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1462739582 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'recpies' < 1462739585 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462739595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462739596 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you named it recpies < 1462739612 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vi share/recipe/rec{pi,ipi}es.txt < 1462739614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`share/recipe/recpies.txt' -> `share/recipe/recipies.txt' < 1462739619 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/=\999;seek STDIN,rand((-s STDIN)-299),0 or die;print;' < share/recipe/recipes.txt < 1462739620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: share/recipe/recipes.txt: No such file or directory < 1462739627 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vi share/recipe/rec{ipi,ip}es.txt < 1462739628 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive pies? < 1462739629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/=\999;seek STDIN,rand((-s STDIN)-299),0 or die;print;' < share/recipe/recipes.txt < 1462739630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`share/recipe/recipies.txt' -> `share/recipe/recipes.txt' < 1462739631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a rack. \ Meanwhile, combine all at a time, bacon the eggs on serving platesly. Sprinkle the \ pepper to taste and set aside. And toppings in the oven and brown flavors of \ flour, and the olive oil if needed. Remove the cake. Add lemon \ juice, flour and sugar. Remove from oven and refrigerate at least 4 hours, or \ until ce < 1462739636 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/=\999;seek STDIN,rand((-s STDIN)-299),0 or die;print;' < share/recipe/recipes.txt < 1462739637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ine \ 1 sm Green onions; sliced \ 2 ts Instant cloves \ 1/3 c Chopped onion \ 1/2 c Water; or margarine \ 4 Cloves garlic; chopped \ 3 tb Oil flour \ 1 c Peanuts; crushed \ 1 c Cooked corn chopped \ 1 1/2 c Honey \ 1/4 c Chopped coriander \ 1/4 c Walnut, cut into 2 cups \ 2 c Pa < 1462739653 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/=\999;seek STDIN,rand((-s STDIN)-299),0 or die;print=~y/ \t/ /sr;' < share/recipe/recipes.txt < 1462739654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1/2 cup bowl, \ invert onto bottom of dough onto a weighright fryer. \ \ Serve in bite-sing four sauce. Steam the rice into a bowl combine the butter. \ Reduce the heat to low, adding more sugar and pepper. Stir in the \ flour, baking soda and pepper. Stir together, salt, and let place for \ about 10 minutes. \ \ Add the beans and sal < 1462739655 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oil flour/ wat < 1462739695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomrecipe < 1462739695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: randomrecipe: not found < 1462739699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462739700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: recipe: not found < 1462739706 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was contacted by lambda bot with a message: butterfingers < 1462739722 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -n 3 share/recipe/recipes.txt < 1462739724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Title: CARROT CACOA CHILI CHICKEN \ 2 c Canned cornmeal \ 2/3 c Butter or margarine < 1462739724 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\n''exec perl -e '\''local$/=\999;seek STDIN,rand((-s STDIN)-299),0 or die;print=~y/ \t/ /sr;'\'' < share/recipe/recipes.txt' > bin/recipe && chmod a+x bin/recipe < 1462739726 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone sent me that message >_> < 1462739727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462739728 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462739730 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462739730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dough over the pan. Combine the \ pears, and lemon juice over the first cookie sheet. Garnish with the \ completely with melted butter, stirring, over low heat, uncovered \ for 3 minutes. Spoon a cookie sheet and bake in 375 degree oven for \ 40 minutes or until the meat is tender, turning after the chicken pieces is \ light brown. \ \ Ligh < 1462739731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :es, Also, \ Light in the hot potatoes of only excess. \ \ Source: "Whole" \ \ MMMMM \ \ MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ Title: HUNGARIAN SOUR CHERRY POT PHIG PART \ Categories: Desserts \ Yield: 6 Servings \ \ 2 c Sugar \ 2 lb Noother pineapples \ 1 sm Onion; chopped \ 2 cn Walnuts \ 2 Cloves garlic, minced \ 1 < 1462739732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462739732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t and then add the mustard seeds and dill well \ potatoes in fork and stir until the mixture is softened. Add the \ remaining ingredients. Add the sugar and blend well. \ Beat in half and stir until they are tender. \ \ From: desserts (Norma) Cholesterol 1996. Diviping the recipe formated by DetErre \ Harmlloupwy Posted by Canadian Mexennt A < 1462739795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 375 < 1462739797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :375.00°F = 190.56°C < 1462739854 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bake in 375 oven for \ 40 minutes or until the meat is tender, turning after the chicken pieces is \ light brown." make sense < 1462739873 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from ALMOND MUSTARD < 1462740033 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if the chicken pieces are into the paper towels to soften, then how do I see when they're light brown? < 1462740080 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine that if you wait long enough you'll get all sorts of colors... < 1462740087 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny when it uses words like "the remaining" which only make sense in first place if you do know hardware conservation. < 1462740167 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah I see, I bake it for 30 minutes in a medium skillet into the paper towels to soften, but then the oil is finely brown off the balls, and food color, and at that point I move them to the light good pot of the bowl, so they're no longer into paper towls < 1462740188 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're in the greased 13x9" (3-quart) baking sheet < 1462740193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the oven I guess < 1462740205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, maybe they're out onto a bowl instead < 1462740213 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1462740220 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both the cooking sheet and the bowl < 1462740235 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AARGH < 1462740244 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: now it segfaults at startup? < 1462740250 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is this an actual recipe, or an esolang? < 1462740251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Circuitrite14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46984 5* 03Moon 5* (+239) 10if anyone wants to move data from the doc to here, please do so < 1462740253 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is memmove even implemented properly??? < 1462740265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? recipe < 1462740266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random food recipes at https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc < 1462740266 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: ^ < 1462740273 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk for a walk myself < 1462740273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: not on solaris, I hear < 1462740275 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ah, thanks < 1462740295 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462740313 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CHINESE MEAT OF 2" <- this is somewhat worrisome < 1462740322 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1462740324 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: it's not chef, in particular. chef does have object permanece, where ingredients are in bowls, you don't just put them into bowls or remove them from bowls, they're actually in the bowls and stay there until you do something to change that. < 1462740334 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be worse... chinese meat of four... < 1462740339 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: recipe gives a random quote from it < 1462740344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean `recipe < 1462740345 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: :D: < 1462740352 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ah, I see < 1462740371 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462740372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eel flour \ 1 tb Minced fresh green onion \ Sauce \ Salt & pepper \ \ Combine flour, cocoa and milk. \ Cook for 5 minutes, stirring often. Beat with all sides of the up and simmering well. Bake at 350\F8 \ depeed to directions, then immediately. \ \ MMMMM \ \ MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ Title: CATRICO'S & LEMON P < 1462740381 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462740382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d: 6 Servings \ \ 2 c Whole beans, chopped \ 2 tb Minced fresh celery \ -- drained \ 1 ts Vanilla extract \ 1 c Nonfat additional \ 2 c Peanut butter \ 4 Eggs \ 3/4 c Chopped celery \ 4 c Milk \ 1/3 c Unsweetened cocoa \ 2 lb Boneless chicken \ -pepper; seeded \ 2 tb Sour cream or flour \ 1/4 ts Dried parsley \ 1/2 ts Baking soda \ < 1462740383 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I type qwertyuiop, go to the u, and type backspace < 1462740395 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462740396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h \ baking sheet; add the beef plain,stock and a \ day little and pour off top. Spoon fat container. Place a little toasted \ of the mixture in the peanut butter until the flours is not be ablewhosed \ in the oil. Pour onto a bowl. Cut each piece into the oven. \ \ MMMMM \ \ MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ Title: GREEN B < 1462740397 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get qwertyuuio < 1462740413 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :.18 < 1462740415 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1462740422 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn RoboRosewater is generating random Magic: the Gathering cards, see https://mobile.twitter.com/roborosewater < 1462740424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'roborosewater': RoboRosewater is generating random Magic: the Gathering cards, see https://mobile.twitter.com/roborosewater < 1462740476 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would imply it's copying it the other way < 1462740496 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/creativity/custom-card-creation/612057-generating-magic-cards-using-deep-recurrent-neural shows a card that has the chaos symbol used in a morph cost, as in Morph {B}{chaos}{G/W} < 1462740606 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462740613 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that text says it's not a chaos symbol, < 1462740618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a hybrid {B/B} symbol < 1462740643 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes much more sene < 1462740673 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, yeah, I called it the worng way around < 1462740706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, could there be a card that cares specifically about spells or permanents with a hybrid mana symbol in their mana cost? < 1462740710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would that be an un-card? < 1462740750 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there could be such card, but no {B/B} < 1462740785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, because there's no black-black guild < 1462740800 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"then put the *rest* of target creature card [...]" < 1462740837 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, that's like "then exile the pieces." on blacker lotus < 1462740856 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did it learn that phrase? (also, "target creature card" should be rare...) < 1462740943 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's not rare, lots of green or black card recyclers spells and black reanimators say "target creature card" in your graveyard < 1462740953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Recover < 1462740954 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1462741006 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2016-04-08.zip < 1462741011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-08 19:56:47 URL:http://www.yawgatog.com/resources/oracle/All%20Sets-2016-04-08.zip [708667/708667] -> "All Sets-2016-04-08.zip" [1] < 1462741012 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir share/mtg < 1462741013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462741024 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the last part... "Put a $n/$m $type token into play. Then put it into your graveyard." < 1462741027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv -vi "All Sets-2016-04-08.zip" share/mtg/ < 1462741028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1462741046 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "last part" of what? I don't know the context < 1462741049 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1462741053 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made something diffrent: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Circuitrite < 1462741055 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vi "All Sets-2016-04-08.zip" share/mtg/ < 1462741057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`All Sets-2016-04-08.zip' -> `share/mtg/All Sets-2016-04-08.zip' < 1462741065 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: your link, I'm still looking at that "reminder text" < 1462741079 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah < 1462741093 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && 7z x All\ Sets-2016-04-08.zip < 1462741094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: 7z: command not found < 1462741096 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1462741101 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && unzip All\ Sets-2016-04-08.zip < 1462741102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: unzip: command not found < 1462741104 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why no 7z? < 1462741110 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no unzip either? < 1462741111 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1462741122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1462741127 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && gunzip All\ Sets-2016-04-08.zip < 1462741129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip: All Sets-2016-04-08.zip: unknown suffix -- ignored < 1462741136 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && zcat All\ Sets-2016-04-08.zip < 1462741137 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Ach! Hans, Run!" \ 2RRGG \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of your upkeep, you may say "Ach! Hans, run! It's the . . ." and name a creature card. If you do, search your library for the named card, put it into play, then shuffle your library. That creature has haste. Remove it from the game at end of turn. \ UNH-R \ \ A Display of My Dark Power < 1462741147 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && zcat All\ Sets-2016-04-08.zip > allsets.txt < 1462741154 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462741158 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && zcat All\ Sets-2016-04-08.zip > allsets-2016-04-08.txt < 1462741170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462741176 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that could be fun in decks with lots of triggered abilities, but is there anything like it out of the box (without relying on state-based effects ("all elfs get -1/-1") or triggers that kill (Aether Flash))) < 1462741179 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && rm -v allsets.txt && ln -s allsets-2016-04-08.txt allsets.txt < 1462741181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed `allsets.txt' < 1462741251 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, perhaps something that puts a 0/0 token into play by default and needs to be boosted... < 1462741378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't think so, except maybe in un. There are I think things that put a token into play then remove or destrpy it later. < 1462741659 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -00ne '/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print' "Mighty Leap" < 1462741662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open Mighty Leap: No such file or directory. < 1462741668 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -00ne '/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print' /hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt "Mighty Leap" < 1462741672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open Mighty Leap: No such file or directory at -e line 1, <> chunk 16212. \ Mighty Leap \ 1W \ Instant \ Target creature gets +2/+2 and gains flying until end of turn. \ M11-C, M12-C, MM2-C, ORI-C, OGW-C, DDF-C, DDG-C, DDO-C < 1462741677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1462741681 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -00 -ne '/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print' /hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt "Mighty Leap" < 1462741682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open Mighty Leap: No such file or directory at -e line 1, <> chunk 16212. \ Mighty Leap \ 1W \ Instant \ Target creature gets +2/+2 and gains flying until end of turn. \ M11-C, M12-C, MM2-C, ORI-C, OGW-C, DDF-C, DDG-C, DDO-C < 1462741693 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -00 -ne '/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print' /hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt -- "Mighty Leap" < 1462741694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open --: No such file or directory at -e line 1, <> chunk 16212. \ Can't open Mighty Leap: No such file or directory at -e line 1, <> chunk 16212. < 1462741734 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'open$I,"<","/hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die;$/=""; while(<$I>){/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print}' "Mighty Leap" < 1462741736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mighty Leap \ 1W \ Instant \ Target creature gets +2/+2 and gains flying until end of turn. \ M11-C, M12-C, MM2-C, ORI-C, OGW-C, DDF-C, DDG-C, DDO-C < 1462741738 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1462741751 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"3: until end of turn, $THIS becomes a Plant Wall creature that's attacking you." ... having attacking creatures outside of the combat phase could be fun. < 1462741820 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\n'exec perl -e '\''open$I,"<","/hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die;$/=""; while(<$I>){/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print}'\'' "$1"' > bin/card-by-name && chmod a+x bin/card-by-name < 1462741830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462741831 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Mighty Leap < 1462741833 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/card-by-name: 2: /hackenv/bin/card-by-name: Syntax error: ")" unexpected < 1462741836 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS -1 > 3!!!?!?@?@! < 1462741838 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"destroy target creature until end of turn" < 1462741864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/card-by-name < 1462741865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e \open$I,"<","/hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die;$/=""; while(<$I>){/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print}' "$1" < 1462741875 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462741886 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\n''exec perl -e '\''open$I,"<","/hackenv/share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die;$/=""; while(<$I>){/\A(?i)\Q$ARGV[0]/ and print}'\'' "$1"' > bin/card-by-name && chmod a+x bin/card-by-name < 1462741889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462741899 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Mighty Leap < 1462741901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mighty Leap \ 1W \ Instant \ Target creature gets +2/+2 and gains flying until end of turn. \ M11-C, M12-C, MM2-C, ORI-C, OGW-C, DDF-C, DDG-C, DDO-C < 1462741912 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Gigantiform < 1462741913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gigantiform \ 3GG \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Kicker {4} \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature has base power and toughness 8/8 and has trample. \ When Gigantiform enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, you may search your library for a card named Gigantiform, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. \ ZEN-R < 1462741917 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Gigadrowse < 1462741918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gigadrowse \ U \ Instant \ Replicate {U} (When you cast this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.) \ Tap target permanent. \ GPT-C < 1462741922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Mighty Form < 1462741925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462741938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Dizzy Spell < 1462741939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dizzy Spell \ U \ Instant \ Target creature gets -3/-0 until end of turn. \ Transmute {1}{U}{U} ({1}{U}{U}, Discard this card: Search your library for a card with the same converted mana cost as this card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. Transmute only as a sorcery.) \ RAV-C < 1462741945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Trial < 1462741946 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trial \ WU \ Instant \ Return all creatures blocking or blocked by target creature to their owner's hand. \ [This is half of the split card Trial // Error.] \ DIS-U \ \ Trial // Error \ WU // UB \ Instant // Instant \ Return all creatures blocking or blocked by target creature to their owner's hand. // Counter target multicolored spell. \ DIS-U < 1462742015 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name aetherform < 1462742017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462742028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name aethersnipe < 1462742029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AEthersnipe \ 5U \ Creature -- Elemental \ 4/4 \ When AEthersnipe enters the battlefield, return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. \ Evoke {1}{U}{U} (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.) \ LRW-C, CMD-C, MMA-C, MM2-C, DD2-C < 1462742039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the basics work < 1462742050 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can add more complicated search stuff later < 1462742123 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finally "tap target creature or player" < 1462742162 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tapped players can't attack) < 1462742163 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: where's that from? < 1462742171 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the twitter account < 1462742188 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Righthaste" -- is that a real word? < 1462742210 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/RoboRosewater < 1462742210 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` egrep -i righthaste share/mtg/allcards.txt < 1462742212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egrep: share/mtg/allcards.txt: No such file or directory < 1462742222 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` egrep -i righthaste share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462742231 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462742251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has "Until end of turn." which reminds me to that triggered abilty zzo38 wrote < 1462742290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Tiny Shard < 1462742301 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At the beginning of the first cleanup step each turn, if ~ is untapped." < 1462742335 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tromple,Mointainspalk" what < 1462742419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, "becomes a Plant Wall creature that's attacking you." is triply funny < 1462742455 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it becomes a creature that's attacking, because it's attacking until end of turn, and because it's a wall that's attacking < 1462742457 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run egrep -i "that's attacking you" share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domain -- Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays {X} for each creature he or she controls that's attacking you, where X is the number of basic land types among lands you control. \ Nonblack creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays {2} for each creature he or she controls that's attacking you. \ Creatures can't attack < 1462742588 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` egrep -i "right[a-z]" share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brightflame \ Radiance -- Brightflame deals X damage to target creature and each other creature that shares a color with it. You gain life equal to the damage dealt this way. \ Brighthearth Banneret \ Brightstone Ritual \ Frightcrawler \ Threshold -- As long as seven or more cards are in your graveyard, Frightcrawler gets +2/+2 and can't block. \ F < 1462742595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, rightousness < 1462742600 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` egrep -i "\ \ \ Options: \ -c, --count count of matching processes \ -d, --delimeter specify output delimeter \ -l, --list-name list PID and process name \ -v, --inverse negates the matching \ -f, --full use full process name < 1462742625 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -Pi "\bright(?!ous)[a-z]" share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rally the Righteous \ Righteous Aura \ Righteous Authority \ Righteous Avengers \ Righteous Blow \ Righteous Blow deals 2 damage to target attacking or blocking creature. \ Righteous Cause \ Righteous Charge \ Righteous Confluence \ Righteous Fury \ Righteous Indignation \ Righteous War \ Righteousness \ Shield of the Righteous \ Surge of Righteous < 1462742636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Circuitrite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46985&oldid=46984 5* 03Moon 5* (-11) 10 < 1462742645 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -Pi "\bright(?!eous)[a-z]" share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462742654 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did it get "righthaste"? < 1462742671 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run egrep -i righth share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brighthearth Banneret \ Rings of Brighthearth < 1462742696 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the same place it got "Bdast Hand". < 1462742708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: isn't that at least a card name? < 1462742725 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to what looks like an ability word < 1462742760 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure that's in an ability. < 1462742774 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the twitter, there's a card named Omberceptic Thrull. you'd think a card with that name would have the subtype Thrull. you'd be wrong. < 1462742810 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't forget All Werewolf. < 1462742837 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what's All Werewolf? < 1462742847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462742859 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462742862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run egrep -i thast share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462742883 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it knows that it can combine two proper words into one < 1462742925 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's... I think three words ending in haste: haste, turbo-haste from un, and some kind of haste in FUT < 1462742941 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That the end of a word can be followed immediately by the beginning of another word, instead of a space. < 1462742953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :turbohast is actually "Super haste" < 1462742974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -Pi "[a-z]haste" share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462742980 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1462742987 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep 'Super haste' share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462742988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super haste (This may attack the turn before you play it. (You may put this card into play from your hand, tapped and attacking, during your declare attackers step. If you do, you lose the game at the end of your next turn unless you pay this card's mana cost during that turn.)) < 1462742988 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that one in FUT called then? < 1462742999 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Super Haste is on Rocket-Powered Turbo Slug < 1462743006 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an un-card < 1462743006 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminder text with reminder text. I like it. < 1462743024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you do? there's another instance on the nameless card < 1462743025 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1462743035 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is < 1462743040 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '))' share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462743041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super haste (This may attack the turn before you play it. (You may put this card into play from your hand, tapped and attacking, during your declare attackers step. If you do, you lose the game at the end of your next turn unless you pay this card's mana cost during that turn.)) < 1462743055 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ).)_ < 1462743057 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1462743058 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :).) < 1462743064 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep ').)' share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462743064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462743074 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :).) looks kind of like a weird emoticon. < 1462743085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462743091 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :().)) < 1462743095 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I know why it's not in the allsets.txt < 1462743099 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*im watching8 < 1462743104 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://magiccards.info/uh/en/23.html for a solution < 1462743108 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a/the/ < 1462743132 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: some sort of barrel? < 1462743144 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e whatya mean? < 1462743150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: your ascii-art < 1462743174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, the FUT one doesn't have abilityhaste < 1462743175 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ).) looks kind of like a weird emoticon. < 1462743178 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has plain old haste < 1462743184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Bonded F < 1462743187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonded Fetch \ 2U \ Creature -- Homunculus \ 0/2 \ Defender, haste \ {T}: Draw a card, then discard a card. \ FUT-U < 1462743192 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i put it in a head < 1462743206 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Cloudw < 1462743207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462743227 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Cloud of < 1462743228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloud of Faeries \ 1U \ Creature -- Faerie \ 1/1 \ Flying \ When Cloud of Faeries enters the battlefield, untap up to two lands. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ UL-C, VMA-U < 1462743244 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Counter target spell with five toughness 2 or greater.” in http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/creativity/custom-card-creation/612057-generating-magic-cards-using-deep-recurrent-neural < 1462743248 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1462743278 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gardenpath Counterspell. < 1462743315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that these are early cards, before the network was trained enough < 1462743327 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Horror < 1462743327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horror of Horrors \ 3BB \ Enchantment \ Sacrifice a Swamp: Regenerate target black creature. (The next time that creature would be destroyed this turn, it isn't. Instead tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat.) \ LE-U, 9ED-U \ \ Horror of the Dim \ 4B \ Creature -- Horror \ 3/4 \ {U}: Horror of the Dim gains hexproof until en < 1462743390 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1462743396 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the twitter has a card named "Wall a" < 1462743401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like that animated film < 1462743404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wall-E" < 1462743470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter: “Whenever an opponent loses 1 life, target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn.” that one is an interesting restriction < 1462743553 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brighteous. < 1462743606 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Go and learn a style for a MtG card, will you? < 1462743607 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i could be < 1462743666 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cheers the fungot < 1462743666 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe it is to generate the list structure itself ( not the java, that is < 1462743676 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Ovyread Legation / 2G / Instant / Players can't exile its controller's control. If you do, shuffle your library.” < 1462743680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style mtg < 1462743680 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462743685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style recipe < 1462743685 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462743687 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do not generate java hth < 1462743687 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: er this is openbsd, you know < 1462743688 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style cookbook < 1462743688 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462743697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style card < 1462743697 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462743699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style magic < 1462743699 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462743703 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you run on a bsd? < 1462743703 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style gatherer < 1462743703 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're essentially breaking hygiene by comparing literally. inside of " ", at fnord < 1462743703 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462743718 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that scheme style? < 1462743731 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: my mind, it hurts. < 1462743733 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1462743733 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1462743751 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The freenode/#scheme part has made big contributions. < 1462743752 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462743754 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1462743761 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes boily for aliveness < 1462743762 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it < 1462743785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how things orient chronologically, I may have run fungot on an OpenBSD. < 1462743785 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you mean like the 0. is exact, z seems to be in < 1462743795 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1462743795 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1462743802 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1462743803 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1462743805 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to < 1462743825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Glast Vonger / UU / 2/2 Creature - Shapeshifter / {T}: Destroy target creature with lifelink until end of turn.” -- I think that ability actually makes sense by the current rules < 1462743827 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462743829 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nethack style isn't a terribly good one. fungot, say something clever. < 1462743829 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: twoflower, guide: " now it is as white as a benign deity. he is endowed with not-inconsiderable sexual prowess which he bore, he readies his weapon could provide? i will set my face, so perfectly constructed that no one is quite unequivocal: _vampire_ " a wizard!" < 1462743829 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice card < 1462743852 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1462743852 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1462743856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, that's a quite nice card < 1462743865 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say something clever. < 1462743865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :among the best generated ones < 1462743865 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: pointer to the outside world. they are organized into 4 registers: none note: ror instruction is available for programming commodore computers is to take advantage of the commodore 64. although there is no statement in basic creates a random number generator for games, programming tips, " if it had been transmitted or printed out) no interrupts can be restarted by using a fn call, or voices, a < 1462743886 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does zzo's file have any effect that destroys a permanent until end of turn? < 1462743890 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one tends to stop very suddenly, thanks to inadequate preprocessing. < 1462743912 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: doesn't it just run out of irc line space? < 1462743931 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1462743931 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1462743942 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tardas Mersioner has some funny reminder text < 1462743942 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1462743942 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1462743949 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say something clever. < 1462743949 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: but seriously, coke has quite little coffein if compared with coffee... < 1462743955 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say something clever. < 1462743955 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: oh dear. < 1462743960 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say something clever. < 1462743960 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: you're sitting on a wooden chair in a cafe of a library, there's little point, unless you already know where to put < 1462743965 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it says “Bestroy target creature.” < 1462743965 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say something clever. < 1462743969 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm continuous destruction. "I'll kill you, and this time you'll stay dead, is that understood?" < 1462743972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bestroy! < 1462743976 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, Bestroy < 1462743976 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say something clever. < 1462743983 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1462743998 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there's little point" < 1462744021 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It might have done that right now, but (IIRC) it *also* does it randomly with that style, because I didn't unbreak lines to form paragraphs. < 1462744028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? it < 1462744029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It little profits that an idle king, / By this still hearth, among these barren crags, / Match'd with an aged wife, I mete and dole / Unequal laws unto a savage race, / That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me. / I cannot rest from travel: I will drink / Life to the lees; all times I have enjoy'd / Greatly, have suffer'd greatly, both with < 1462744031 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ^ < 1462744052 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's little point in an idle king < 1462744082 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462744084 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is the card +2/+2 and flying until end of turn, but I made up the card that damages a creature and then that creature is flying until end of turn. < 1462744127 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it also get some more damage when it crashes to the ground? < 1462744127 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, is that some sort of goblin grenade, or a giant that likes to play football with smaller creatures? < 1462744142 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462744156 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is a instant and it does not cause more damage once it stopped flying < 1462744176 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run egrep -i plummet share/mtg/allsets.txt < 1462744177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plummet < 1462744181 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Mhelloon__. fungot. < 1462744181 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aha. is there anyway that could be called fnord, which guarantees practically infinite energy for free < 1462744190 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calls Moon__ "fnord" < 1462744215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, destroy... a bit more than I was looking for, but fair enough < 1462744222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The card I made is: Ground Shock {R} Instant ;; ~ deals 3 damage to target creature without flying. That creature gets +1/+1 and gains flying until end of turn. < 1462744249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most neural networks use numbers to pass around data... < 1462744255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But could someone do something similar with strings? < 1462744309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. I guess a 0/3 creature (no bonuses, no previous damage) will survive... < 1462744329 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but I'm not sure! < 1462744348 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will survive, but will be dead with one more point of damage < 1462744367 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. < 1462744442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I would have had to read rules to figure out whether that all happens at once or whether a state check could see the 3 damage without seeing the +1/+1. < 1462744517 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't; state based actions only occur when a player is about to receive priority. < 1462744614 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'nite < 1462744640 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462744642 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the night < 1462744646 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐//🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) < 1462744716 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonne nasuit! < 1462744716 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462744805 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the limit for the directory stack in bash? < 1462744847 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "shegoc" gopher client that I wrote uses four entries in the directory stack for each entry of the history to be able to go back. < 1462744877 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 🗿♨💮 < 1462744889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F5FF MOYAI \ UTF-8: f0 9f 97 bf UTF-16BE: d83dddff Decimal: 🗿 \ 🗿 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+2668 HOT SPRINGS \ UTF-8: e2 99 a8 UTF-16BE: 2668 Decimal: ♨ \ ♨ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F4AE WHITE FLOWER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 ae UTF-16BE: d83ddcae < 1462745046 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn shegoc < 1462745048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "shegoc". < 1462745053 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shegoc < 1462745057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shegoc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462745077 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moyai < 1462745078 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moyai? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462745240 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ysgomlbyvbdyqggz JOIN :#esoteric < 1462745246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program called "shegoc" is a gopher client that I wrote in shell scripts, so you can write about that if you want to. < 1462745274 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHEll GOpher Chicken. < 1462745307 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, what is with you and Chicken (esolang) < 1462745321 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stands for "Client" not "Chicken" but otherwise it is OK < 1462745650 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: nothing about the chicken esolang. all about chicken. < 1462745657 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? things boily like < 1462745658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things boily like? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462745661 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462745667 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/thing* < 1462745668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/thing*: No such file or directory < 1462745687 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/stuff* < 1462745689 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/stuff*: No such file or directory < 1462745699 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/{thing,stuff}* < 1462745700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/stuff*: No such file or directory \ wisdom/things boily likes < 1462745708 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? things boily like < 1462745709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things boily like? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462745712 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? things boily likes < 1462745714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire is good. I like fire. Also chicken. And phở. Moreover, cubes. < 1462745763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add support for other item types too, such as downloading, and configure what program to use for pictures and telnet and so on. < 1462746400 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: GEARED CHICKEN < 1462746536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Hellmoon__ < 1462748021 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462748160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462748654 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1462749033 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@adck132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462749434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462749446 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@adck132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462750212 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462750473 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462751287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462751357 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462751441 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462751969 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ded chat < 1462751979 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and potential new person < 1462751981 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hfs < 1462751997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hfs: not found < 1462752388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462752515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lastwisdoms < 1462752517 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find .hg/store/data/wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 /bin/ls -t | perl -pe 'use POSIX;chop;$d=strftime("%F",localtime((stat($_))[9]));s=^.hg/store/data/wisdom/(.*).i$=\1 // =;s=^=/$d/ = if$d ne$p;$p=$d;s=_(.)=uc($1)=eg;s=~([0-9a-f][0-9a-f])=chr hex$1=eg' < 1462752544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1462752546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed -- "$1" | grep summary: | sed "s/ +/ /g" | sed "s/^ //" | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'| sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1462752546 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellowpplayer1 < 1462752554 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.231 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1462752581 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION noms oerjan < 1462752595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily your `lastwisdoms pings tdnh < 1462752595 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462752668 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ysgomlbyvbdyqggz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462752685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/lastwisdoms < 1462752686 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily also: we see hanging out here on mothers day < 1462752686 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462752697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e b_jonas b_jonas < 1462752717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily oops, sorry, misidentified culprit < 1462752717 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462752731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas your `lastwisdoms pings tdnh < 1462752731 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462752748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastwisdoms < 1462752753 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/2016-05-08/ roborosewater // cookbook // recipe // hydrogen // wisdom.pdf // wisdoms.pdf // gene ray // professor gene ray // english channel // oerjan // #esoteric // hfs // /2016-05-07/ amnesium // wisest human // adventure // timecube // time cube // tas // /2016-05-06/ huh // ta // acab // brainfuck // hms pinafore // wisdoom // tanebventio < 1462752757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's check if anyone actually fixed it < 1462752793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1462752865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas also, i said i was retired. < 1462752866 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462752883 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just edit a bunch of wisdoms until your wisdom file gets bumped off < 1462753089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas also you have misunderstood the problem, so `lastwisdoms doesn't actually solve anything. it is in fact _essential_ to have all the information in the logs both about what the file was changed to and whether it already existed. < 1462753089 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462753191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas because the whole point is to be able to guess with no false negatives whether a wisdom edit has messed up anything. and honestly a mass summary will just leave it in the same position as the repository browser - where i look through it only rarely, and more and more reluctantly. (did i mention i've retired?) < 1462753191 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462753415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the antiping method used in culprits won't work for tanebventions. < 1462753496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem being that wisdom names can in principle contain nicks as substrings anywhere. < 1462753520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noping < 1462753522 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | sed 's/\(..\)/\1​/g' < 1462753553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one, though, will shorten the output by a lot. < 1462753656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462753701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily btw since `lastwisdom was actually useless for its intended purpose, you might be the most likely user. but please only in private (see above). < 1462753701 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462753816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: That is cannibalism, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies. < 1462753870 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you mean to tell boily, or b_jonas? < 1462753902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: the first to boily was a misdirection, the last one wasn't. < 1462753908 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462754044 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's hard to weigh pings and cut&past-ability. < 1462754075 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/and/against/ < 1462754094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: true. i wondered if just appending | paste to the whole thing would be best. < 1462754101 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ta < 1462754104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462754113 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: yay, Isabelle believes that my function (laver1) terminates. < 1462754158 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and did it? < 1462754210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hunch it's a bit early to tell. as in unfathomable universe-lifetimes early. < 1462754214 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it worked in my tests, if that's what you're asking (Isabelle is an interactive proof assistant.) < 1462754237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wow you must have a fast computer < 1462754257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or possibly a less evolved laver table) < 1462754312 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I just produced tables for concrete n (up to 4) < 1462754329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes after looking up that cannibalism quote that most of the google hits can't agree on the wording < 1462754343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not 32 then, i take. < 1462754409 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not using that code. I have an improved version that works well up to n=16 or so. cf. https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/laver.hs < 1462754466 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n is the n in the set {1..2^n}... I've also done some remapping) < 1462754473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just recall that it was mentioned in the thread to grow faster than some nested ackermanns < 1462754505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it's one of those tables < 1462754521 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one or too more indirections before we get to "it". < 1462754531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1462754533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two. < 1462754560 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I'm just shelving, so to speak. < 1462754637 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: in fact I realized that the proof of a |> b > a if a < mx needs to be interleaved with the termination proof. Such fun! < 1462754763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Morning G'daneb invent anything good overnight? I don't know yet, I haven't read the logs < 1462754767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1280) Morning G'daneb invent anything good overnight? I don't know yet, I haven't read the logs < 1462754770 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: note also that I don't know why I actually obtain a shelf that way... i.e. why self-distributivity holds. < 1462754846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY (i know nothing) < 1462754891 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462755021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462755119 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Zzz < 1462755253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:21:44 Anyone made anything cool with Gopher yet? :P < 1462755253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:23:22 zzo38 has been posting a lot of Gopher programs. < 1462755266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything went better than i expected. < 1462755266 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462755283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: did someone explain it < 1462755288 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain what < 1462755303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: Gopher already has a different meaning, which zzo38 is into. < 1462755312 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1462755320 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29 < 1462755331 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1462755392 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462755468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Used to contain the utterance "An unknown source on IRC has verified that everyone knows or reasonably should know about this film. Anyone claiming not to be aware of it, is feigning ignorance." < 1462755474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old times < 1462755589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Phantom_Hoover < 1462755605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman, hatheist, and completely out of the loop. < 1462755620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1462755988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas "I can't win." sounds like a pretty good summary hth < 1462755988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462757038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm int-e's `lastwisdoms format is too clever < 1462757082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* int-e thought about it. // is impossible to fake, and a leading / as well. <-- I AGREE < 1462757493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdoms.pdf < 1462757497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdoms.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462757503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.pdf < 1462757505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom.pdf Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462757518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462757549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdoms.pdf; sed -i 's/[^ ]* //' wisdom.pdf < 1462757553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdoms.pdf': No such file or directory < 1462757564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/wisdoms.pdf; sed -i 's/[^ ]* //' wisdom/wisdom.pdf < 1462757568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462757573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.pdf < 1462757574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nicely formatted wisdoms and quotes book at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1462757637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas in fact looking at your most recent wisdoms?.pdf edits, i'll say seeing the exact resulting content is the _most_ important issue :P < 1462757637 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462757892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: hmm, if we install a second mercurial in user-space, will it be able to read this repo? <-- O_O < 1462758292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ <\oren\> the UN should pass a resolution against middle-endian dates <-- nah, then the republicans would force through a law insisting on them hth < 1462758292 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462758641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the awesome part is that experimental physicists say “core of Jupiter, eh? that sounds easy enough, let's build machines to replicate it.” <-- hm now i'm wondering what's the highest pressure scientists can sustain on a significant volume (say, at least visible to the naked eye) < 1462758693 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462758811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462759117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_anvil_cell but that's very small < 1462759844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1462759847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1462759860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 25 GPa -> atmospheres < 1462759891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1462759905 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462759909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 25 GPa -> atmospheres < 1462759944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462759947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1462759968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hm; frink 25 GPa -> atmospheres < 1462759969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm; frink 25 GPa -> atmospheres < 1462759972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hm; frink 25 GPa -> atmospheres < 1462760038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462760048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk < 1462760062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/frink < 1462760063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/frink: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable < 1462760068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/frink < 1462760069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" < 1462760081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file lib/frink < 1462760083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib/frink: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=0x3d3ad786ec6233455da8a3371b38b238b692f3e1, not stripped < 1462760103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` lib/frink -e "25 GPa -> atmospheres" < 1462760134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000000000/4053 (approx. 246730.8166790032) < 1462760140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462760200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462760257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uptime < 1462760258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 01:17:34 up 0 min, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 < 1462760265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1462760294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid sandboxing < 1462760457 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbmfemjsdfkafedx JOIN :#esoteric < 1462760824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462760955 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462761619 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1462761972 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462762129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462765698 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462765999 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-72-102.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462766836 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462767077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462767260 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462767476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical Typewriter... < 1462767478 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm... < 1462767487 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462767625 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now my JavaScript implementation of Internet Quiz Engine is support ANSI colours < 1462768133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas [...] "what a good idea! I'll store the pan in the cupboard pre-greased too." <-- i distinctly vaguely recall that someone in my family actually does that. < 1462768134 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462768174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have some ideas about how I could implement text entry questions in Internet Quiz Engine (in a way that is suitable to fit with everything else)? < 1462768250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any other feature suggestions you might have? < 1462768355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now i'm reminded of the replaceable typewriter heads that were on a shelf in the math institute back in my time, with all kinds of symbols on them. (long since out of use, i think.) < 1462768381 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It already has many advanced features not found in other programs. < 1462768381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*long ago < 1462768393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Could they do square roots and derivatives? < 1462768404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: probably. < 1462768428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: THAT WILL DO < 1462768471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, i think you were supposed to change between them according to which symbols you needed. < 1462768656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly this was it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter < 1462769000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had some flaws "Though done to protect the print mechanism from damage,[27] an unexpected keyboard lock activation could cause minor injury to a typist with a heavy touch." < 1462769780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: My favorite is the Selectric 251 < 1462769833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1462769925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits patiently for oerjan to understand the reference, even if e has to google it < 1462770069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting there < 1462770140 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the Selectric that communicates with the other universe < 1462770145 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gopher menu for Internet Quiz Engine now includes the source-codes also. < 1462770173 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :notfowl: How would it communicate with other universe? < 1462770192 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they don't make Selectric typewriter anymore but they should I think it was the best kind isn't it? < 1462770226 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you type on it appears in another universe and they can type to you on the other side < 1462770268 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for how it does this? Some real dark satanic science < 1462770378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum entanglement, says the wiki. which is about the same thing hth < 1462770497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think quantum entanglement can do that. Actually I think I read they tried to do that and failed, and ended up inventing quantum information theory instead, so it is kind of accident < 1462770510 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But maybe I misremembered what I had read.) < 1462770613 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think Selectric is probably a good typewriter despite that though. < 1462770647 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're valuable < 1462770721 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If IBM won't make it then some other company should do so, and also add a serial port to add the possibility for send/receive by computer in addition to the possibility of use like normal typewriters. < 1462770802 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some later Selectric models had exactly that feature. < 1462770856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462770870 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462771221 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But was it ASCII or EBCDIC? The ASCII one should be made up. < 1462771344 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462771407 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably EBCDIC knowing IBM. < 1462771480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that is why they need to make the new one with ASCII. If some company would make new typewriter like Selectric and also can connect to computer in addition to standalone use then it can good to use. < 1462771556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you may use a typeface that some characters are not quite ASCII, anyways) < 1462771565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Depends which one you load into the typewriter) < 1462772891 0 :variable!?@? NICK :constant < 1462773932 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAARGH this is the nth anime i've seen that begins with "guy is forced to join a club, meets crazy girl..." < 1462773954 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, "Haruhi was popular let's do that"? < 1462774009 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these people need to be more creative in their plot openings. the actual plots themselves are more different < 1462774198 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of plot opening will be the better one? < 1462774512 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462774591 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about the boy joins a club out of genuine interest, and then an annoying girl joins afterward? < 1462774607 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: didn't you notice that anime plots are *always* generalized? it is a business that is highly refined and regularized. < 1462774695 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there are lots of ways an "ordinary boy" and an "annoying girl" could meet < 1462774737 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it certainly seems they stick to formula a lot < 1462774771 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if a particular plot works well, and the audience just likes it so much that duplicates are also highly successful in general, then it gaves to a new business obviously < 1462774773 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462774775 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gives* < 1462774881 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern day otaku anime business is based on the nighttime airing (not really free, but almost free) and the prohibitively expensive pricing of DVD/Blu-Ray boxes < 1462774935 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, combined with low wage standard for animators, makes a very strange market < 1462774987 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strangely looks like an art commissioned by nobles in the middle ages, only worse < 1462775636 0 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1462776268 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462776324 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I improved the Code Optimization on my Esolang Intepreter (On Discord atleast) < 1462776328 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Gopher < 1462776795 0 :Boris!~Boris@72.204.154.77.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462778203 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462778464 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462780600 0 :Boris!~Boris@72.204.154.77.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462781234 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: re lastwisdoms pings => that's a feature. you get pinged to show someone has edited the wisdom about you. < 1462781265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1462781294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make more sense if it only showed new ones < 1462781399 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462781577 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1462781577 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1462781598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping oren < 1462781635 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1462781740 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462781957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46986&oldid=46735 5* 038.42.77.107 5* (+2) 10/* Example program */ < 1462782010 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462782516 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you find a task that's not solvable by a brainfuck program with less than 100 instructions? < 1462782617 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak < 1462782778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hierjan < 1462782828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1462782836 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:594e:bec7:31ae:5234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462782862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many pings < 1462782895 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Wisdom mutations in the channel are useful for the same reason that HackEgo posts wiki edits in the channel. < 1462782956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: determining whether a brainfuck algorithm with less than 100 instructions halts hth < 1462782982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1462782991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that a bit more than 100. < 1462783013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 + a constant hth < 1462783135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok, maybe times a constant too, i'm not quite sure.) < 1462783290 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that need more than 100 instructions? < 1462783293 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps tetrated to a constant < 1462783321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: because you can adapt the standard proof that the halting problem is unsolvable to all kinds of resource limits < 1462783346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually i think it's probably just +, i just haven't thought it through. < 1462783370 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you show an example of how such proof would work? < 1462783395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: adding a constant is an integral part of formulas like that hth < 1462783460 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i got it < 1462783464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1462784302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46987&oldid=46986 5* 038.42.77.107 5* (-2) 10/* Example program */ < 1462784363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1462784808 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bdafvmrfvvygshae QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462784831 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-frupjdsyxqvfntsp JOIN :#esoteric < 1462785385 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462785659 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462785973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462785999 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego, you're very slow again < 1462786003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are pastry and expanpie with a layer of the squares, on the salads and lightly, and set \ over a slotted serving plate to cook. \ \ In a large saucepan, combine the vegetables and blend well. \ \ From: Fine, Help-jellini \ by Market Alaskarel Cookbook_ by Inrow \ MMCONV. \ \ MMMMM \ \ MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ < 1462786005 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462786017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-card: not found < 1462786344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec perl -e\'''open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand($c)];'\'' "$1"' > bin/random-card && chmod -v a+x bin/random-card < 1462786348 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462786351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of `bin/random-card' changed from 0644 (rw-r--r--) to 0755 (rwxr-xr-x) < 1462786356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Ach! Hans, Run!" \ 2RRGG \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of your upkeep, you may say "Ach! Hans, run! It's the . . ." and name a creature card. If you do, search your library for the named card, put it into play, then shuffle your library. That creature has haste. Remove it from the game at end of turn. \ UNH-R < 1462786361 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec perl -e\'''open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?i:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand($c)];'\'' "$1"' > bin/random-card && chmod -v a+x bin/random-card < 1462786375 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec perl -e\'''open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?i:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand(@c)];'\'' "$1"' > bin/random-card && chmod -v a+x bin/random-card < 1462786376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of `bin/random-card' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x) < 1462786380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of `bin/random-card' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x) < 1462786381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec perl -e\'''open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?i:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand(@c)];'\'' "$1"' > bin/random-card && chmod -v a+x bin/random-card < 1462786382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of `bin/random-card' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x) < 1462786385 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462786388 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462786395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flame Jet \ 1R \ Sorcery \ Flame Jet deals 3 damage to target player. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ UD-C < 1462786398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scapeshift \ 2GG \ Sorcery \ Sacrifice any number of lands. Search your library for up to that many land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. \ MOR-R < 1462786399 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card protection < 1462786404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tel-Jilad Fallen \ 2GG \ Creature -- Elf Warrior \ 3/1 \ Protection from artifacts \ Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.) \ SOM-C < 1462786415 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card copying < 1462786419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462786426 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card as a copy < 1462786428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copy Enchantment \ 2U \ Enchantment \ You may have Copy Enchantment enter the battlefield as a copy of any enchantment on the battlefield. \ RAV-R < 1462786776 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462786885 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec perl -e\'''open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand(@c)];'\'' "$1"' > bin/random-card && chmod -v a+x bin/random-card < 1462786888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of `bin/random-card' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x) < 1462786912 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ORI-C < 1462786914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep-Sea Terror \ 4UU \ Creature -- Serpent \ 6/6 \ Deep-Sea Terror can't attack unless there are seven or more cards in your graveyard. \ ORI-C < 1462786916 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ORI-C < 1462786919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smash to Smithereens \ 1R \ Instant \ Destroy target artifact. Smash to Smithereens deals 3 damage to that artifact's controller. \ SHM-C, MM2-C, ORI-C < 1462786972 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card /2} < 1462786973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462786975 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card /2\} < 1462786976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462787017 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Mental Mi < 1462787021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mental Misstep \ (u/p) \ Instant \ ({(u/p)} can be paid with either {U} or 2 life.) \ Counter target spell with converted mana cost 1. \ NPH-U < 1462787181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1462787382 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462787388 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card /2\) < 1462787389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462787393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1462787398 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card /p\) < 1462787400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gut Shot \ (r/p) \ Instant \ ({(r/p)} can be paid with either {R} or 2 life.) \ Gut Shot deals 1 damage to target creature or player. \ NPH-U, MM2-C < 1462787430 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Reaper < 1462787432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reaper King \ (2/w)(2/u)(2/b)(2/r)(2/g) \ Legendary Artifact Creature -- Scarecrow \ 6/6 \ ({(2/w)} can be paid with any two mana or with {W}. This card's converted mana cost is 10.) \ Other Scarecrow creatures you control get +1/+1. \ Whenever another Scarecrow enters the battlefield under your control, destroy target permanent. \ SHM-R \ \ Reape < 1462787435 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1462787442 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \(2/ < 1462787444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flame Javelin \ (2/r)(2/r)(2/r) \ Instant \ ({(2/r)} can be paid with any two mana or with {R}. This card's converted mana cost is 6.) \ Flame Javelin deals 4 damage to target creature or player. \ SHM-U, DD2-U, DDK-U < 1462787648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should figure out some interface for the comprehensive rules too < 1462787807 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-frupjdsyxqvfntsp QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462788277 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jinpiiobazemxhsm JOIN :#esoteric < 1462789429 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much mtg < 1462789447 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`source < 1462789448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: source: not found < 1462789452 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`src < 1462789456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: src: cannot execute: Is a directory < 1462789459 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1462789462 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1462789464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in Mexico! < 1462789468 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1462789468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1462789529 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/multibot/wiki/Home < 1462789545 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is thr core source < 1462789582 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Danke. < 1462789935 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jinpiiobazemxhsm QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462790051 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-goehulpwxrdlikrr JOIN :#esoteric < 1462790508 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot is arguably much more relevant. < 1462790528 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-goehulpwxrdlikrr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462790535 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, it uses the multibot framework, but all that running-things stuff is hackbot. < 1462790538 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yaenmgqnrucvqnri JOIN :#esoteric < 1462790557 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox/wiki/Home for the actual work. < 1462790935 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know how it tracks the wiki changes? < 1462790943 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, where said code is stored < 1462791091 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not I < 1462791105 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1462791113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ atmospheres \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1462791165 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of those seem obvious candidates < 1462791208 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls etc < 1462791212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luarocks < 1462791226 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1462791244 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /etc < 1462791245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatives \ java-6-openjdk < 1462791396 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://media.wizards.com/2016/docs/MagicCompRules_04082016.txt < 1462791399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-09 09:56:33 URL:http://media.wizards.com/2016/docs/MagicCompRules_04082016.txt [650390/650390] -> "MagicCompRules_04082016.txt" [1] < 1462791420 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vit /hackego/share/mtg/ "MagicCompRules_04082016.txt" < 1462791421 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: accessing `/hackego/share/mtg/': No such file or directory < 1462791428 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mv -vit share/mtg/ "MagicCompRules_04082016.txt" < 1462791431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`MagicCompRules_04082016.txt' -> `share/mtg/MagicCompRules_04082016.txt' < 1462791435 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hackenv, right? < 1462791439 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` pwd < 1462791440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1462791444 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1462791506 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd /hackenv/share/mtg && mv -vi MagiCompRules_{04082016,20160408}.txt < 1462791508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `MagiCompRules_04082016.txt': No such file or directory < 1462791517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd /hackenv/share/mtg && mv -vi MagicCompRules_{04082016,20160408}.txt < 1462791521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`MagicCompRules_04082016.txt' -> `MagicCompRules_20160408.txt' < 1462791530 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd /hackenv/share/mtg && ln -sv MagicCompRules{_20160408,}.txt < 1462791534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`MagicCompRules.txt' -> `MagicCompRules_20160408.txt' < 1462791566 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && cat -A MagicCompRules.txt < 1462791567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: The Gathering Comprehensive Rules^M$ \ ^M$ \ These rules are effective as of April 8, 2016.^M$ \ ^M$ \ Introduction^M$ \ ^M$ \ This document is designed for people whoM-^Rve moved beyond the basics of the Magic: The GatheringM-. game. If youM-^Rre a beginning MagicM-^Y player, youM-^Rll probably find these rules intimidating. TheyM-^Rre inte < 1462791576 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && cat MagicCompRules.txt < 1462791578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: The Gathering Comprehensive Rules < 1462791662 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -aF libexec < 1462791663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access libexec: No such file or directory < 1462791669 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -aF share < 1462791670 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./ \ ../ \ 8ballreplies \ Complaints.mp3 \ UnicodeData.txt \ WordData/ \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ cat \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl* \ delvs-master/ \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello* \ lua/ \ maimer \ maimery \ maze* \ mtg/ \ nothp \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ recipe/ \ scapeg < 1462791671 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -aF usr < 1462791672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access usr: No such file or directory < 1462791779 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls bin/prepare-mtg < 1462791782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/prepare-mtg: No such file or directory < 1462791794 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls bin/*mtg* < 1462791795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*mtg*: No such file or directory < 1462791842 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo $'#!/bin/bash\nset -e\n''cd /hackenv/share/mtg && tr -d \\r < MagicCompRules.txt > rules.txt && echo written ~+/rules.txt' > bin/preprocess-mtg && chmod -v a+x bin/preprocess-mtg < 1462791848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of `bin/preprocess-mtg' changed from 0644 (rw-r--r--) to 0755 (rwxr-xr-x) < 1462791849 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`preprocess-mtg < 1462791852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :written /hackenv/share/mtg/rules.txt < 1462791862 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd share/mtg && cat rules.txt < 1462791865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: The Gathering Comprehensive Rules \ \ These rules are effective as of April 8, 2016. \ \ Introduction \ \ This document is designed for people who’ve moved beyond the basics of the Magic: The Gathering® game. If you’re a beginning Magic™ player, you’ll probably find these rules intimidating. They’re intended to be the ultimate authority f < 1462793157 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: There isn't "code" as such. < 1462793186 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: It's using MediaWiki's UDP-based change notifications and: < 1462793187 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :socat UDP-RECV:8147,bind=127.0.0.1 STDOUT | stdbuf -oL cut -c 1-400 | stdbuf -oL sed -e 's/^/PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] /' | socat STDIN UNIX-SENDTO:/tmp/multibot.HackEgo < 1462793191 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1462793255 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, interesting < 1462793256 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1462793277 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462793291 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's running outside the sandbox you see, receiving the UDP notifications, mangling them a little bit, and then feeding them into the socket multibot provides for having the bot send arbitrary things to the server it's connected to.) < 1462793761 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1462794241 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1462794668 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462794668 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11h 41m 12s ago: your `lastwisdoms pings tdnh < 1462794668 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 11h 39m 42s ago: also: we see hanging out here on mothers day < 1462794668 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11h 39m 10s ago: oops, sorry, misidentified culprit < 1462794668 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11h 22m 46s ago: btw since `lastwisdom was actually useless for its intended purpose, you might be the most likely user. but please only in private (see above). < 1462794719 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to unloud my massages... < 1462795273 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1462795281 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its cool < 1462795294 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i couldnt accept your invite < 1462795309 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we'll figure something out < 1462795763 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange... < 1462795786 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PARAKEET CHICKEN < 1462796236 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Code Golf Contest #130: Nethack speedrun" now *that's* a title < 1462796275 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have been just a little bit simplified from what the description might imply. < 1462796392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo You win. < 1462796404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out it's a find-the-length-of-the-shortest-path task with input being a NetHack level "screenshot". < 1462796423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You win. < 1462796512 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1462797917 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs392720.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462798071 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462798380 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462799188 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs392720.centertel.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462799685 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462800085 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462800190 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462800213 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1462800269 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1462801512 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric < 1462801753 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462801863 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462801969 0 :feliks!5ewzxc5gpC@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462802013 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462802086 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462803580 0 :feliks!cQf3WA84uU@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1462804107 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/EBLfLHy.jpg < 1462804461 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so cute :3 < 1462805139 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462805458 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:594e:bec7:31ae:5234 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462807381 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1462808540 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462808758 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462808851 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Quit: quit < 1462810065 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462810322 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :a single sed replacement that will run a "step" of BCT, feed it program:data (uses ERE, run with sed -E): s/^(0)(.*):.|^(1(.))(.*):(1.*)$|^(1.)(.*):/\2\5\8\1\3\7:\6\4/ < 1462810457 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't we do that once? < 1462810478 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but it used more than 10 capture groups < 1462810493 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wouldn't run on a normal sed < 1462810510 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :*9 < 1462810522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right -- it was as a Perl regex. < 1462810927 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it captured the separator character as well. < 1462811885 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462812397 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462812635 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462812902 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462813883 0 :gremlins2!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462813967 0 :gremlins2!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462814085 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462814136 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462815562 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462815574 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs394251.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462816066 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs394251.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462816413 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1462816414 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 091600Z 23004KT 200V330 20SM BKN019 11/08 A3010 RMK SC6 SLP194 < 1462816611 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs394251.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462817118 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs394251.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462817274 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462817887 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462818294 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462818461 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462819179 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:594e:bec7:31ae:5234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462819398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03GeorgeGibson 5* 10New user account < 1462819501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46988&oldid=46794 5* 03GeorgeGibson 5* (+261) 10/* Sacred */ < 1462819918 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462820162 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like "last strike"? < 1462820174 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462820211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does that add a third combat damage step? < 1462820319 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1462820328 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is my own kind of idea (and possibly others too) < 1462820374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But then there are three possible meanings of "double strike". < 1462820383 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would suggest that if it has last strike then it deal damage during the last strike step instead of the normal strike step; first strike overrides it. If it has both double strike and last strike then it deals damage during the first strike step and last strike step but not the normal strike step. < 1462820406 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1462820470 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462821301 0 :debug0x1!~user@unaffiliated/debug0x1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462821536 0 :debug0x1!~user@unaffiliated/debug0x1 PART #esoteric : < 1462821874 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462823029 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462823055 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462823463 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462823962 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1462824024 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: gtg < 1462824033 0 :Borus!~Borus@158.117.12.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462824063 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462824244 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462825447 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462825782 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462826687 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462827027 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462827251 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462827299 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462827650 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462828720 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462829046 0 :glitch0matick!~glitch0ma@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462829056 0 :glitch0matick!~glitch0ma@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1462829166 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have to take leveling into account? < 1462829447 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1462830322 0 :glitch0matick!~glitch0ma@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462830786 0 :glitch0matick!~glitch0ma@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462830844 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462830850 0 :glitch0matick!~glitch0ma@104-245-159-79.ri.cgocable.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1462831435 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name yawgmoth's will < 1462831448 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462831452 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego? < 1462831478 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, give hackego a swift kick < 1462831478 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i know it isn't super-turing? 1 1) 1) < 1462831485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yawgmoth's Will \ 2B \ Sorcery \ Until end of turn, you may play cards from your graveyard. \ If a card would be put into your graveyard from anywhere this turn, exile that card instead. \ US-R, VMA-M < 1462831494 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning, hackego < 1462831512 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462831912 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462832002 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1462832045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462832820 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462834023 0 :Borus!~Borus@158.117.12.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462834379 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462834409 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462834457 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:594e:bec7:31ae:5234 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462834524 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462834526 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462834526 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1462834654 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462834665 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462835298 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462835688 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462836668 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbmfemjsdfkafedx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462837244 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaxfhpwwxkobuce QUIT :Quit: Whoops. I seem to have nommed myself into oblivion. I have ceased to be. < 1462837288 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-knzdnqwvpbjefgct JOIN :#esoteric < 1462837471 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead chat < 1462837615 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip in peace chat < 1462837649 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoover, your a necromancer, you ressurected it < 1462837678 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/ZOMBIE < 1462837764 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462837825 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462837932 0 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qnefyivnfwyczutx PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode μ < 1462837952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03BC GREEK SMALL LETTER MU] < 1462838005 0 :lynn!uid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qnefyivnfwyczutx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advice: if you *must* program using Unicode identifiers, don't mix up your µs and μs. ;__; < 1462838024 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode µ < 1462838032 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode μ < 1462838035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00B5 MICRO SIGN] < 1462838036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03BC GREEK SMALL LETTER MU] < 1462838040 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode :') < 1462838045 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: BATH CHICKEN < 1462838070 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how MICRO SIGN has a lower codepoint < 1462839036 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haz found garbage http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%99%A6 < 1462839112 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the history < 1462839147 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant understand t < 1462839334 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight substitution seems too obvious but it's worth trying frequency analysis < 1462839673 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :define '<': increment ptrp; define '+': increment dup; define '-': decrement dup; < 1462839692 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A esolang im working on has a sample bf intepreter (= < 1462839806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462839874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote oerjan | shuf < 1462839881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :615) * oerjan concludes that unsafeCoerce has no effect on strictness \ 614) but yeah the caliphates expanded their empire by conquering people and then forcing them to either convert to Islam or die. [...] i thought it was sort of, convert to islam or pay extra taxes, but i guess it varied a lot. \ 366) Will anyone be < 1462839895 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462839912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462839913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462839915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462839915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462839916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1462839934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf. turns out reading about a new mathematical concept a few hours before going to bed is not conducive to good sleeping hth < 1462839942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :960) o.O OS/2 is what became NT? I didn't really know what OS/2 was < 1462839942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :434) fizzie: i, myself, will bring an end to all. < 1462839946 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :879) GreyKnight: for instance, you can form a poset category from a bunch of tiles oh, that's why somebody was conflating category theory with bathroom interior design the other day :-D < 1462839946 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :117) GOODBAD! Your watered down brand of evil conflicts with my botched attempts at dogoodery! < 1462839947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1255) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang < 1462839950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which new mathematical concept did you read about this time < 1462839968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the plus side, i now understand why laver tables must have 2^n sizes if they exist. although not yet why they are shelves. < 1462839974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that < 1462839997 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? laver tables < 1462839999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laver tables? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462840002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shelves are p. bizarre < 1462840021 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you use le/rn/ again? < 1462840112 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn laver table/A laver table is a type of Welsh furniture primarily used for eating seaweed. < 1462840118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «laver table» < 1462840125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please improve twh < 1462840147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1462840156 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462840175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking to coppro hth < 1462840184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously i wouldn't ask the retiree < 1462840195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1462840197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462840224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1462840252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/re//' wisdom/oerjan < 1462840272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/me swats shachaf -----### < 1462840302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been saving that one up < 1462840310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1462840322 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was just going to quote wikipedia < 1462840338 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :laver tables are tables of numbers that have certain properties < 1462840357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1462840374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/too+simple+to+be+simple < 1462840675 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a thing: http://pastebin.com/680vBM4U < 1462840684 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the demo idea for a esolang im making < 1462840689 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a brainfuck intepreter < 1462840745 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this just looks like a lang < 1462840765 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh maybe. < 1462840777 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its unique in its own ways < 1462840779 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :applescript is more esoteric than this < 1462840784 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1462840799 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be useful still < 1462840808 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it for a second < 1462840841 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could intepret a lot of languages in the finished product < 1462840866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the wikipedia article on Laver tables confuses racks with shelves. unfortunately there seems to be no article on the latter. < 1462840887 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(racks have an extra requirement.) < 1462840978 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, at least lex is turing complete < 1462840999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but what quandles twh < 1462841037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a real quandary < 1462841157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also does the shelf operation have anything to do with S twah < 1462841279 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think of this? http://pastebin.com/680vBM4U < 1462841288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the S combinator? looks awkward. < 1462841291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you asking me? < 1462841302 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i want your opinion < 1462841323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've hardly talked to you. < 1462841461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shelf" is not an easily googleable term tdnh < 1462841465 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462841466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves a red link < 1462841571 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tromp_; what do you think of this? http://pastebin.com/680vBM4U < 1462841610 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462841683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: It's kind of rude to just ask your question of whoever is talking in the channel or just joined the channel. < 1462841701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also not too useful, because those are exactly the people who see what's going on in the channel anyway. < 1462841733 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Srry < 1462841757 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__ i think's it's rather verbose:( < 1462841767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it refused to load until the very moment i pressed close, which i take as a sign not to look at it hth < 1462841802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka ^w) < 1462841819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why people ought to post raw links when they use pastebin.com < 1462841841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now xkcd. < 1462841850 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im writing it so i can have aliases for things < 1462841867 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say its good for defineing intepreters :P < 1462841924 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the raw link oerjan: http://pastebin.com/raw/680vBM4U < 1462841939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE < 1462841968 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but thats a bf interpreter and proof of turing completeness for something im makeing ;-; < 1462841979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462841985 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hia hppavilion[1] < 1462841994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellmooon < 1462841998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ooo/oo/ < 1462842008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be formulating a collection of mathematical chess variants < 1462842013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend not naming your languages after common unix utilities hth < 1462842017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are chess variants like the BF derivative of board games? < 1462842031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, is somebody making a mistake? < 1462842035 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, i didnt know that lex was a unix util name < 1462842041 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1462842045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: What's lex? < 1462842047 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because chess is kind of its own field in boardgames < 1462842053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(your lex, not our lex) < 1462842064 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language im working on < 1462842071 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a one char command < 1462842072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: What's the concept? < 1462842080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the ones I thought of that I particularly like is Gaussian Chess < 1462842084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is like chess < 1462842089 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda like a data processer < 1462842102 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Takes in data, does something to it, spits it out < 1462842109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: So a batch processor? < 1462842110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball Are chess variants like the BF derivative of board games? < 1462842113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sources say no. < 1462842116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1462842117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1462842118 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it < 1462842120 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a brainfuck intepreter in it for proof of concept: http://pastebin.com/raw/680vBM4U < 1462842131 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And turing completeness < 1462842147 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically you aren't actually parsing the brainfuck input like you should < 1462842152 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462842165 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did i do wrong? < 1462842172 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes throught the code one char at a time < 1462842191 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implement [] as independent jump instructions < 1462842202 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which admittedly is how the original spec did it < 1462842204 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462842223 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next means just ignore it < 1462842231 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and go to the next char < 1462842263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with the additional allowance that, instead of moving a piece, you may take the abs() of a piece or the sum or product of two pieces, where such an operation produces a piece with the position of the abs/sum/product of its inputs when they are treated as rank+file*i < 1462842273 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas i would argue that [] loops are a syntactic construct and should be treated as such < 1462842283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Either solution is valid ATM < 1462842307 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my language is turing complete at least < 1462842311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I actually made a quite nice extension using the stack model (didn't publish it because it was a BF derivative) < 1462842329 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the implementation should scan through the program and construct an AST of normal instructions and loops containing blocks of normal instructions < 1462842333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: [] behaves as normal, and {} are like [] except they do nothing but serve as labels < 1462842339 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :('normal' meaning '+-<>.,') < 1462842361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] is while, {] is do-while, [} is if-then, {} is... well, that's just do < 1462842372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the "Use defines" command is sort of esoteric, i think. < 1462842373 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__, at the very least an implementation like that would demonstrate interesting data manipulation, rather than just iteration on an array < 1462842380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er *use < 1462842392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically scope, but BF doesn't exactly do scope, so it's useless < 1462842411 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :even then, the brackets match each other and should be parsed < 1462842438 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beleive they wrk, only a function interpreter could prove me wrong < 1462842439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Does it crash if the brackets don't match? As in, a surplus of leading brackets? < 1462842462 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lex implentation should prevent running off the file < 1462842503 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats up to the person who implents it, really < 1462842510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: But does it crash if there are extra [s that DON'T try to look for their partner (e.g. if they're always prefixed with [-])? < 1462842513 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about how well the interpreter actually runs < 1462842548 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will stop, yes, but the intepreter wont full crash < 1462842557 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about properly acknowledging the structure of the interpreted program, and making your interpreter implement something more interesting than the bog standard interpreter that everyone's written in C < 1462842567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I'm a fan of BF's stack strategy- they're a syntactic construct to a naive onlooker, yes, but if you can get away without parsing, goodonya < 1462842618 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone wanted ,they could use 'on error ' constructs to handle errors like that < 1462842622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't parse you're doomed to get quadratic overhead on looping < 1462842642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um maybe quadratic is the wrong word < 1462842650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes, that too < 1462842653 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure it's worse than a constant overhead < 1462842655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Exponential? Polynomial? < 1462842655 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, can all y'all guys access a webpage at this URL? http://nlp.stanford.edu:8080/parser/ < 1462842659 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a really dumb constant overhead < 1462842668 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, no < 1462842671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Nope < 1462842686 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1462842689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it's not constant if a large loop is frequently skipped < 1462842689 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So isup.me is lying. < 1462842719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, or we live in an oppressive regime and didn't notice the transition < 1462842721 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone could write the parsar too, easy < 1462842728 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462842729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: If it's easy, make one < 1462842735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Demonstrate the ease of your language < 1462842740 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not done with the specs < 1462842759 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they could use loops and 'replace with ' for that < 1462842803 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i wrote was a proof of turing completeness, really < 1462842838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Yes, but it's not an elegant proof < 1462842850 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesnt need to be < 1462842851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: If you can make a parser in it, the language will be provably interesting < 1462842873 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, ill make something < 1462842966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/Mexico/all Mexico/' wisdom/hackego < 1462842971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't get it quite right < 1462842973 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462842979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1462842981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1462843053 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only problem with writing a parsar is im lazy :P < 1462843080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a unix utility that can help with that hth < 1462843089 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1462843104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tdnh < 1462843124 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.178 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462843126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "tdnh" is not in my lexicon hth < 1462843134 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lex < 1462843155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, lex cannot parse brackets, can it? < 1462843164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462843170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's regexp-based, you need yacc/bison. < 1462843190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which lex < 1462843192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/lex < 1462843209 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'run external command @echo off < 1462843229 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a theoretical lex command :P < 1462843253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1462843259 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462843259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: sounds unlikely, since @echo off is the kind of thing you _don't_ implement externally. < 1462843263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i said it can help, not that it'll do the whole job for you < 1462843269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i didn't name a utility < 1462843279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dinosaur Comics: "THIS COMIC WILL NOT BE DISPLAYED TWICE" < 1462843280 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 1sed < 1462843281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although someone here manage to make an external cd, so... < 1462843287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*managed < 1462843289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refreshes the page < 1462843292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different comic < 1462843306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's the same with a different ending < 1462843327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "with a different text" hth < 1462843327 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you all try writing in lex? < 1462843331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< < 1462843339 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yesh, there we go < 1462843341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: No < 1462843343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1462843365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: Make the language interesting and we will gravitate towards it < 1462843375 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1462843389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__ is going through the try-to-make-others-use-his-language phase. soon, the despair. < 1462843429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the vodka. < 1462843511 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is a electric badmitten racket maniac* < 1462843527 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trying to electricute flys* < 1462843537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mad he forgets /me again < 1462843895 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462843935 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi tromp < 1462843946 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462844151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls atmospheres < 1462844156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atmospheres < 1462844161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits atmospheres < 1462844176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1462844181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1462844185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm atmospheres < 1462844190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462844315 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you deal with spam on the eso wiki? < 1462844334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a captcha and a spam filter < 1462844341 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1462844354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some blocked ips < 1462844390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spam filter is rules handcrafted by ais523 < 1462844420 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like matching viagra? < 1462844440 0 :Moon__!~jircii@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com < 1462844456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. because bots don't understand proper wiki formatting, nearly all have strange but obvious things like
instead of newlines < 1462844490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spambots < 1462844503 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462844583 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462844589 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1462844638 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so afaik there are no filters based on what the spammers try to advertise. < 1462844673 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just recaptcha? < 1462844707 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462844748 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462844760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well those spammers that bother to hire out to a human captcha solver get through anyway. < 1462844819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :last autumn or so some of them did that. but after ais523 updated the filters again, those held. < 1462844858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: we were sort of running an experiment where we were using just _one_ captcha. and until last autumn that was pretty good. < 1462844870 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :one? < 1462844874 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, never changing? < 1462844876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it just occasionally had to be changed, but just one.) < 1462844889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not automatically, no. < 1462844939 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably doesn't scale too well < 1462844959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. it was entirely based on the principle that we're too small to target specifically. < 1462844989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if not, the filters probably would have been got around too) < 1462845187 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have decided to write a chatbot in C++ < 1462845418 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1462845485 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cuz < 1462845626 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No reinventing the wheel, ill start from a skeleton, add the meat < 1462845680 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462846250 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making a skeleton generally classifies as reinventing the wheel :) < 1462846288 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but well, if you know enough C++11 and have boost at hands, not *that* hard I guess < 1462846345 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :import cleverbot < 1462846348 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#done < 1462846386 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a irc bot >_> < 1462846393 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither is cleverbot < 1462846400 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462846402 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that wrong < 1462846967 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone feel like (code)golfing? < 1462847126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the golfers are currently busy doing laver tables in binary lambda calculus. < 1462847227 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about challanging you all to write a brainfuck intepreter in the esolang of your choise < 1462847228 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like golfing < 1462847239 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bindun < 1462847258 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a programming language that is basically identical to brainfuck except that the empty program is a self-interpreter. < 1462847259 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as small as possible < 1462847272 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :id call that cheating :P < 1462847308 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dont use cheaty ones and im ok with it < 1462847329 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is a rule-bending. after all golfing across different languages is... uh... not really worth arguing. < 1462847339 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule-bending one* < 1462847348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you a golpher? < 1462847351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the animal. < 1462847359 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: gollang. < 1462847362 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no-.- < 1462847370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Game of life language? < 1462847379 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds great < 1462847385 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never thought in that way < 1462847395 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: you think to compare cross-lang to get shortest interp? < 1462847404 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea < 1462847456 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think what would be the best lang for that purpose < 1462847469 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how long a jelly interp would be < 1462847536 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462847555 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/27364/esoteric-programming-languages < 1462847557 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found home < 1462847562 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight < 1462847581 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SE had a chat? I didn't know < 1462847630 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 103 byte simplex solution is the shortest one i can find < 1462847647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462847653 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: that chat has very sporadic activity < 1462847752 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brian Raiter had 166-byte-long ELF binary (!) for BF interp http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt < 1462847778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity spores < 1462847854 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet i could do it in under 100 < 1462847854 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462847861 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not a binary) < 1462847862 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: 103 bytes barely beats my Binary Lambda Calculus one < 1462847894 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 5 bits longer < 1462847906 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462847916 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're not tuomas laakkonen < 1462847925 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you < 1462847928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we just declare BLC to be cheating and get it over with >:) < 1462847939 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating how:-? < 1462847941 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462847948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: it's TOO GOOD hth < 1462847954 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1462847974 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's make BLC plus adaptive compression < 1462847993 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to < 1462847994 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do better < 1462847998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:41:09 tromp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_lambda_calculus says that Haskell-style I/O requires a type system, but that isn't true. < 1462848001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:41:59 Not that BLC would benefit from Haskell-style I/O, for the things it's typically used for. < 1462848032 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do Haskell style IO shachaf? < 1462848066 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extend the lambda calculus with readbit and writebit primitives? < 1462848090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example with an a sum type like data IO = ReadBit (Bool -> IO) | WriteBit Bool IO | Done < 1462848101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can make it a monad if you want to. < 1462848111 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not untyped then?! < 1462848116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you'd have to encode it in lambdas. < 1462848140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use original haskell 1.0 hth < 1462848153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the type system isn't really what prevents Haskell programs from mixing up "IO a" and "a", which is what that entry looked like it suggested. < 1462848167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: haskell 1.0 doesn't exist hth < 1462848177 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type sysmtem is needed to serialize io primitives < 1462848192 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1462848196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can encode a list, you can encode this type. < 1462848232 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to prevent things like writebit applied to writebit < 1462848238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm? < 1462848300 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you dont want order of io operations to depend on order of evaluation < 1462848304 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462848306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. < 1462848363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote about this a bit in http://stackoverflow.com/a/13538351 < 1462848415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you encode a list in lambda calculus, do you need to prevent things like cons applied to a non-list? < 1462848416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj4zdWEsc7MAhUK2SwKHWtSA0YQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haskell.org%2Fdefinition%2Fhaskell-report-1.0.ps.gz&usg=AFQjCNERSb6UmbpF5lvDfv5V3HZsJsVKlg&bvm=bv.121099550,bs.1,d.bGg < 1462848423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good url < 1462848432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid google doesn't let me link directly without opening it < 1462848442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was meant to be a joke about old things not existing < 1462848448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't really think it through < 1462848463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE YOUR THOUGHT DIDN'T EXIST, HUH? < 1462848469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1462848490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it existed so much that it wrapped around to not existing < 1462848508 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than you'll ever exist < 1462848510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1462848513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1462848599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( a solipsistic AI simulation ) < 1462848605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462848628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are ørjan and oerjan påls < 1462848683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to drag pål-ørjan into this, i had almost forgot the guy < 1462848791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like he has a twitter https://twitter.com/po_johansen < 1462848869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to like LSD < 1462848992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and a norwegian wikipedia page. < 1462849061 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for the link shachaf, will slowly digest that < 1462849076 0 :acertain!~acertain@unaffiliated/fread2281 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462849155 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 LSD < 1462849214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow, even i don't have a norwegian wikipedia page < 1462849235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/2ywf4a < 1462849238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1462849274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please note, Pål and Teri do not have PhDs." < 1462849306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AAAAAAAAAAA < 1462849316 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462849361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe you can publish a joint paper about lsd homology < 1462849377 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess a joint paper would be about a different drug < 1462849552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how come harald didn't name his son pål < 1462849575 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nice write-up, but i don't see how to implement any of your approaches without types < 1462849579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think pål is a traditional royal name < 1462849598 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462849623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this one would be principål < 1462849646 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :content delivery networks are the webs of the spiderdemon < 1462849653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: I don't see what types have to do with it. < 1462849698 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ContIO = Exit | PutStrLn String ContIO | GetLine (String -> ContIO) | ... is a type < 1462849710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and data List a = Nil | Cons a (List a) is a type. < 1462849719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can implement lists even in untyped lambda calculus. < 1462849759 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you cannot constrain lists in untyped lc < 1462849788 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PutStrLn needs to constrain its argument to be a string < 1462849805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Cons needs to constrain its second argument to be a list. < 1462849807 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two doors between me and my wireless router. my internet is fastest when both are closed. < 1462849818 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE < 1462849930 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me an alternative definition of BLC with IO primitives < 1462850027 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we can discuss its semantics < 1462850096 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's some weird geometry in my house that causes the signal to cancel itself out??? < 1462850250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of possible encodings in lambda calculus. < 1462850297 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick the simplest < 1462850326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encode Exit as (\e w r -> e); WriteBit b k as (\e w r -> w b more); ReadBit k as (\e w r -> r k) < 1462850327 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just need readbit and writebit < 1462850375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's the Scott encoding. < 1462850434 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lost me alrd:( < 1462850485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462850492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: feng shui poltergeist hth < 1462850497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, how would you encode a program that generates a list of bits as output? < 1462850501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No input necessary. < 1462850578 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my model, any closed lambda term is a program that does binary IO < 1462850611 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the input bit stream is represented as a list of booleans to which the term is applied < 1462850630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you represent a list? < 1462850666 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons = \M\N. \z. z M N < 1462850683 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = \t\f. t < 1462850687 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 = \t\f. f < 1462850712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you terminate a list? < 1462850723 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nil = 1 < 1462850786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Would you believe the encoding "cons = \M\N. \c\n. c M N"; "nil = \c\n. n"? < 1462850807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e., to consume a list cell, you pass it what to do in the nil case and in the cons case. < 1462850903 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works too < 1462850912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so I'm doing the same thing. < 1462850927 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exit = \e\w\r. e < 1462850936 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just dont call that monadic IO < 1462850984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it was monadic, though you can make it a monad easily enough if you want to. < 1462851032 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i claimed that having readbit as a *primitive* of the lambda calculus language requires a type system < 1462851087 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462851123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we're just talking about different things. < 1462851153 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we're talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_lambda_calculus#Binary_I.2FO < 1462851198 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where i contrast my approach to IO with that of Chaitin < 1462851207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unless one distinguishes between an I/O action and its result, as Haskell does with its monadic I/O" < 1462851218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462851222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying that the type system isn't what distinguishes between an I/O action and its result. < 1462851232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just completely different things. < 1462851252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type system distinguishes between strings and integers, sure, but even without the type system they'd be different things. < 1462851259 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt say that < 1462851299 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that a readbit *primitive* with monadic semantics requires a type system < 1462851325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Perhaps I just misunderstood. < 1462851332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think "monadic" is a red herring anyway. < 1462851363 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can omit the word monadic there < 1462851404 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462851443 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be good for more languages to make a distinction between IO action values and their results, even in the absence of type systems, and even in the absence of being able to abstract over the choice of a monad. < 1462851926 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the word monadic to emphasize that distinction, but the "requires type system" refers to readbit being a language primitive < 1462852006 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree with Cale < 1462852126 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462852155 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: why IO specifically and not other side effects? < 1462852168 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since side effects could indirectly have IO effects < 1462852223 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, IO is the stuff that you want some sort of support in the language implementation to interpret. < 1462852259 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's perfectly possible to carve out a subclass of pure lambda terms which encode IO actions < 1462852284 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without some sort of interpreter underneath which is going to carry out the effects, it doesn't really do much for you. < 1462852336 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1462852396 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: hmm... I'm not sure I agree < 1462852418 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do need language implementation (or library implementation) support < 1462852432 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure that that's a reason to make a distinction < 1462852446 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer addition requires implementation support as well < 1462852453 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean, "why is it a good idea to distinguish IO actions like we do in Haskell"? < 1462852473 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh, I misread what you said < 1462852517 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'd still ask why not do that for any function with side effects < 1462852541 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously we'd rather not have arbitrary side effects at the same time < 1462852557 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1462852561 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is just to encode effects as values of a particular type < 1462852562 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give an example, perhaps? < 1462852684 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know how things work in Haskell, right? We have this separate parametric data type, IO t, representing actions which can be carried out and which may have arbitrary effects, before resulting in a value of type t if they succeed. < 1462852731 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1462852776 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can think of such a value as consisting of some sort of encoding of what to do in what order in terms of various primitive I/O actions. It's possible to represent that entirely with a pure lambda term, taking the I/O primitives and bind, and return as arguments, and sticking them together somehow. < 1462852792 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1462852835 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that you'd *need* to do this in an arbitrary other language -- just to say that as soon as your language is expressive enough to have lambda terms, it's expressive enough to represent IO actions purely. < 1462852847 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1462852902 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't really see the benefit in a language not built around purity < 1462852916 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having such a concept is nice because it lets you not worry about effects during evaluation -- you have this separate notion of the execution of one of these IO actions, where the thing is taken apart and the steps described are carried out < 1462852953 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1462852957 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it gives you a really nice formulaic way to pull a bunch of messy stuff out of the description of evaluation. < 1462852970 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462852972 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in some sense, it's all about making the language more pure < 1462852984 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my point is that it really doesn't *require* a type system < 1462852984 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I was just thinking of trying to staple that onto, say, an OO language < 1462853009 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably requires lambdas to not pull your hair out in anguish < 1462853014 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462853020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: You're making a similar point to the one I was making a few pages up, I think. < 1462853023 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be a neat esolang actually < 1462853023 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to want something akin to bind and/or do-notation anyway < 1462853031 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure OOP < 1462853033 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :POOP < 1462853037 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm basically rephrasing what you were talking about < 1462853051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With more emphasis on monads, maybe. < 1462853064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that you get that much benefit out of having a monadic interface. < 1462853141 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you need *some* ways to glue these IO actions together. I hesitate to say that providing return and bind as operations is really giving you "monads" in any real sense, because the whole story about abstracting over a choice of monad is still lots more work. < 1462853181 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, if you prefer to glue together IO actions in some other ways, then those are fine too < 1462853211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the type you would get is a monad, whether or not you recognize it. < 1462853291 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah -- though recognising it may not have much use if it doesn't let you write code which will work with any monad and reuse it. < 1462853427 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, people implement Maybe or State in various other languages, and they implement the monad operations for them, but I would resist the notion that they're "programming with monads" just for having done so -- the point at which you really start to use monads is when you write something like sequence or liftM2 and have it work for all the monads you'll ever define. < 1462853455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People's implementations of Maybe are often scow because they collapse Nothing and Just Nothing. < 1462853460 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1462853464 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that too < 1462853477 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, did you know that Aeson's JSON encoding of Maybe does that? < 1462853496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1462853504 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't, until information started getting destroyed in transit between my web frontend and backend < 1462853504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it kind of fits with the JSON model. < 1462853548 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462853552 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the JSON model is odd < 1462853562 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe Nothing is a stupid type < 1462853562 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because of its genesis in javascript < 1462853574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But it's a great value. < 1462853590 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript can't really distinguish between an explicit and implicit null < 1462853602 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not without effort < 1462853606 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We use the Template Haskell stuff to write all our ToJSON/FromJSON instances for both the frontend and backend of our apps, and so mostly don't have to worry about how anything is being encoded < 1462853616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Maybe 'Nothing < 1462853617 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The first argument of ‘Maybe’ should have kind ‘*’, < 1462853617 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : but ‘Nothing’ has kind ‘Maybe k0’ < 1462853617 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In a type in a GHCi command: Maybe Nothing < 1462853623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR NOT < 1462853630 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: IIRC the Maybe Nothing thing was an accident rather than by design, wasn't it? < 1462853643 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yeah, well, kinda < 1462853644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Wait, never mind. < 1462853658 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I mean, how would you otherwise distinguish them in JSON? < 1462853668 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the default encoding of Maybe Foo is either as null or a Foo < 1462853669 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: They should be records with a tag < 1462853679 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't match common usage at all though < 1462853686 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aeson has template haskell code which will construct instances for an arbitrary algebraic data type < 1462853698 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have just used the TH code to write the instances, and everything would be good :) < 1462853701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Maybe Nothing < 1462853703 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘Maybe’ < 1462853703 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant variable ‘maybe’ (imported from Data.Maybe) < 1462853704 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't though < 1462853706 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Just Nothing < 1462853708 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just Nothing < 1462853710 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then they wouldn't have a way to deserialize null < 1462853721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just Nothing < 1462853722 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe (Maybe a) < 1462853738 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Nothing < 1462853739 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a < 1462853757 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just Just Nothing < 1462853757 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: like, if it was a record with a tag, so would the inside < 1462853758 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Maybe a1 -> t’ < 1462853758 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘Maybe (a0 -> Maybe a0)’ < 1462853758 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The function ‘Just’ is applied to two arguments, < 1462853771 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just (Just Nothing) < 1462853772 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe (Maybe (Maybe a)) < 1462853784 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, I suppose I'm in a bit of a special position. We're using Haskell all the way through the applications I'm working on, so we don't actually *care* what the JSON looks like, so long as it's a faithful representation of the Haskell values. < 1462853785 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have { "isNull": "false", "value": { "isNull": "false", "value": "something" } } < 1462853799 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: yeah, that's an unusual use case < 1462853821 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i Just met you, and this is crazy, so here's my Number, so call me Maybe < 1462853829 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :being able to understand nulls for a datatype is important for things like JSON merge-patch < 1462853843 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, the problem is that Just x can't be encoded the same way as x < 1462853853 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs *some* kind of wrapper < 1462853860 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can *except* if x is itself a Maybe < 1462853866 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more accurately < 1462853871 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x itself has a null value < 1462853880 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aeson's model is that Maybe should be the only thing with a null value though < 1462853904 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I suppose you could do a bunch of awful type class nonsense to try to express which types have a JSON encoding that encodes something as null < 1462853923 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you *could* define types like MaybeFoo = NoFoo | HasFoo Foo and serialize them "correctly" < 1462853934 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I ended up using Either () < 1462853991 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I recall that conversation actually, now that I think about it < 1462853993 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that works < 1462854000 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an iso anyway :P < 1462854006 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462854015 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's just a really annoying gotcha < 1462854258 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect that in most cases where you had some particular JSON format you wanted to match, you'd be defining your own types to represent its values, and writing the ToJSON and FromJSON by hand anyway, and so you might as well handle the nulls yourself then. < 1462854278 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than having the Maybe instance do it for you) < 1462854326 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's unlikely < 1462854344 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the more realistic case is that you would have Maybe handle it < 1462854368 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it would be thins like "this field is either a string or null" < 1462854424 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still have some explicit "nullable" JSON parser combinator, which does that < 1462854441 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I dunno, I don't think of Maybe as being the same thing as nullable. < 1462854509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think realizing the importance of things like Just Nothing vs. Nothing is one of the benefits you get from learning Haskell. < 1462854607 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case, it came up sort of semi-automatically (it would have been in a case where the type to use would have been determined by associated types, but we hadn't yet got to the point of automating it when I ran into the problem) < 1462854625 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I think the use cases of nullables and Maybe are pretty similar < 1462854635 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the thing was regarding representing patches to a Map k v as values of type Map k (Maybe v) < 1462854668 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this isn't a perfect encoding in general, since you'd really want that to involve a type representing a patch to a v, but regardless...) < 1462854697 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When v happened to already be Maybe t, this mysteriously fell over at runtime < 1462854706 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1462854713 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was quite hard to track down what the heck was happening < 1462854757 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of writing an extension to brainfuck -- would it be against the spirit of bf to add a single cell that can hold strings, for file handling and env variables?d < 1462854766 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(would have been harder still if the type class machinery for representing patches that we have now was in place) < 1462854808 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it sucks a bit needing to be careful that these type level programs which compute the types of patches don't accidentally put two Maybe's in a row < 1462854836 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: yeah, I feel like the "correct" solution there from a usability + workingness perspective would be to identify some types as supporting explicit nulls so that you can serialize them appropriately < 1462854850 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462854858 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the correct solution is just to treat Maybe as you would any other algebraic data type < 1462854858 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more JSON-y way would probably be null vs. { "value": null } vs. { "value": value } < 1462854871 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The TH instance is *fine* < 1462854872 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks for common users now < 1462854892 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I agree -- note that it's only the *default* behaviour for Maybe < 1462854911 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Joe Stupid trying to use Aeson, I have a field which is encoded as either null or an integer < 1462854947 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try "Maybe Integer" but it always gives an error. I try "Integer" but it can't deserialize null. I give up and go use JavaScirpt. < 1462854975 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can still provide something like parseNullable :: Value -> Parser (Maybe a) < 1462854994 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I have to explicitly write my To/FromJson instances < 1462854997 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, parseNullable :: (FromJSON a) => Value -> Parser (Maybe a) < 1462855028 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, if you care about the precise JSON representation, it makes sense to be doing that anyway < 1462855029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: how come sql doesn't have let ... in ... < 1462855039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do people live without it < 1462855039 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because it's scow? < 1462855056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't argue with that < 1462855062 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1462855085 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I don't think that's the point of Aeson, though. < 1462855086 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're at all interested in writing a new database, I have a few feature requests :P < 1462855147 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462855167 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want a database with which my application can register a query in a semi-permanent fashion, and any time that a transaction commits which might affect the result of that query, the DB sends my application a diff of the results. < 1462855183 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently someone opened an issue < 1462855184 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/bos/aeson/issues/376 < 1462855184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: http://www.rethinkdb.com/ hth < 1462855201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I worked at that company a few years ago, though it was a very different database back then.) < 1462855220 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: oh wait that's you < 1462855228 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: maybe that wasn't you who I remember complaining about it then < 1462855235 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall this discussion quite a while back < 1462855237 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, yeah, I also want it to be statically typed. < 1462855242 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yeah, that was me :) < 1462855250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously you would want that. < 1462855276 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and I want sum typed columns < 1462855304 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "this column is a primary key of table A, B, or C, and we know which" < 1462855316 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean that the value at a particular column is sum typed, or that you have one of a set of possible sets of columns? < 1462855333 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The value at a particular column < 1462855361 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the query language needs to be able to case on that information obviously < 1462855397 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have been when I was lurking #yesod < 1462855425 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, I had most of this conversation in the bug ticket :) < 1462855446 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't hang out in #yesod, so it wouldn't have been there < 1462855458 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might've mentioned it in #haskell at the time < 1462855467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: What do you think about protobufs? < 1462855484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interesting thing about them is that they let you change a data type and keep backwards compatibility. < 1462855493 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know enough about them to have a strong opinion < 1462855503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is somewhat in contrast to the Haskell philosophy of having a type be able represent exactly the values you want and no more. < 1462855550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how to reconcile the two. < 1462855576 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I don't think it was you, since it was definitely IRC and many months ago < 1462855583 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: the JSON merge-patch spec is actually a great example of JSON null conflation < 1462855593 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :common usage of JSON treats null weird < 1462855627 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use a sort of typed json at my work. the json is parsed into C++ a struct < 1462855638 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If people want to shoot themselves in the foot by conflating Nothing and Just Nothing, there probably should be a way to do it, but I don't think it should be the default thing < 1462855658 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it doesn't mathc the layout, it throws a character pointer < 1462855661 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You could also make a newtype for it. < 1462855685 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and put a big warning label on it regarding what happens when you nest them) < 1462855704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protobufs are certainly a better way to do communication and serialization than JSON for a lot of things. < 1462855705 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462855776 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget where I was going with this < 1462855881 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: In our case, the thing we really need some sort of migration strategies for is with respect to the database (this is the main reason we're using groundhog, which is a library very similar to persistent, and I don't really understand the differences), moreso than the stuff we use JSON for. < 1462855901 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We *could* be just using Binary instances :) < 1462855958 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just nice that when something goes wrong, the browser can show you the JSON and it's somewhat readable, if ugly. < 1462855959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google's use case for protobufs is approximately everything. < 1462855964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including RPC, for instance. < 1462856099 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I agree that it shouldn't allowed < 1462856117 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of forbidding nesting and leaving the instance more than I like the idea of changin gthe instance < 1462856156 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the other instance is usually the correct one < 1462856168 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else is asking for unnecessary gymnastics on the user's part < 1462856172 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I sort of agree with you from the perspective of "what's most convenient for existing users", but I have half a mind just to fork the entire library to fix the thing :) < 1462856519 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462856813 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462857251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Elronnd14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46989 5* 03Elronnd 5* (+115) 10Created < 1462857334 0 :mukaiten!~Karim@RMHLON3409W-LP130-01-3096579136.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462857381 0 :mukaiten!~Karim@RMHLON3409W-LP130-01-3096579136.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462857661 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn ksp changing their wheel physics < 1462858193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics rotation < 1462858407 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1462858456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Elronnd/brainfcuk14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46990 5* 03Elronnd 5* (+2905) 10First steps < 1462858774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Elronnd/brainfcuk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46991&oldid=46990 5* 03Elronnd 5* (+32) 10update < 1462858907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Do you know the type zzo38 calls CodensityAsk? < 1462858950 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen it < 1462858980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype CodensityAsk f a = CodensityAsk { runCodensityAsk :: forall r. f r -> (a -> r) -> r } < 1462859091 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1462859147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 points out that CodensityAsk ((->) x) = Either x; CodensityAsk (Const x) = ((->) x); CodensityAsk Endo = Writer (Sum Natural); CodensityAsk Finalize = Identity; CodensityAsk Identity = Maybe < 1462859164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where Finalize = Proxy, I guess. < 1462859215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm was that the one we discussed adapting the (co?)yoneda lemma to? < 1462859232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to show those equivalences < 1462859243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that. < 1462859281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe it was something differnet. < 1462859288 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462859311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some typos refuse to be fixed) < 1462859348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're thinking of dithernet < 1462859356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ethernet, but with more dithering < 1462859372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1462859401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall (x,x) was represented using Bool < 1462859463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think it was some connection between expressing a functor f in terms of f () < 1462859482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Representable functors? < 1462859486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1462859529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it involved something yonedal < 1462859684 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : < 1462859714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Actually I wish Dremel had let. < 1462859805 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you're not talking about the Dremel I'm thinking of. < 1462859813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am. < 1462859823 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay then. < 1462859830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Does it have let? < 1462859837 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my knowledge. < 1462859848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mysterious assumption. < 1462859851 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have access to the docs for it, but don't think so. < 1462859863 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume dumb things all the time. < 1462860124 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1462860161 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey everyone < 1462860168 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1462860230 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arPhttps://www.dremel.com < 1462860249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTPS over ARP? < 1462860250 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... https://www.dremel.com < 1462860269 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have typed something with this window focused < 1462860277 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine what, though < 1462860387 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : ok ? < 1462860413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was pretty neat, is all. < 1462860422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's related to adjunctions somehow, I think. < 1462860459 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, you know the definition of free objects that goes newtype Thing k a = Thing { runThing :: forall r. k a => (a -> r) -> r } < 1462860469 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : Cale: how come sql doesn't have let ... in ... < 1462860480 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my link was in response to that ^ < 1462860514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except a class can have laws and a type presumably doesn't. < 1462860545 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Yes, I know. < 1462860566 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1462860658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Elronnd/brainfcuk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46992&oldid=46991 5* 03Elronnd 5* (+1688) 10file handling < 1462861893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462862108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462863856 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462864113 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462865363 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1462865842 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: On the other hand, you have different fingers. < 1462866524 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1462866679 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462866780 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462867961 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ? < 1462868732 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Will you, yourself, bring an end to all? < 1462868733 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i was just dropping by and told the message about increasing the stack size a while ago back when we were playing around with variable allocation to attempt to solve impossible problems < 1462868765 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm guessing that's as good an approach as any to solve impossible problems. < 1462868857 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1462869263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hungot < 1462869263 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but if another program will halt or not < 1462869286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you just worry about yourself halting or not. let us worry about other programs. < 1462869286 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe so that the c literature doesn't use that many scheme primitives, only, max and make-string. < 1462869584 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462870248 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have a halting oracle? < 1462870249 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i could allocate esoapi a fnord of a < 1462870693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1462870693 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1462870711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what about using a sword? < 1462870712 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! < 1462870743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well sort of evil. < 1462870743 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1462870767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: peace would be nice. < 1462870767 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10, then magic damage will be reduced by 10%. a star after any characteristic means it's at maximum strength! no matter what the price! it is, you idiot! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's t < 1462870796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ah. better to drop the sword, then. < 1462870796 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! < 1462870802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1462870802 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1462870923 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed! this thing. < 1462871680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style calvinandhobbes < 1462871680 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462871856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1462871856 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1462872723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462873668 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1462874403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1462875671 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462876735 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the closest alternative to google code search? < 1462876797 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: rsc had a standalone version of google code search I think? < 1462876803 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only for *your* code. < 1462876912 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want other people's code < 1462876922 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1462876977 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading that imagemagick thing made me wonder how many projects call system() without proper input sanitization < 1462876983 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github search? < 1462876992 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not good enough :( < 1462876994 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no regex, unfortunately < 1462877298 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ImageMagick thing? < 1462877341 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagemagick is stupid and it calls system(something) with user input in it < 1462877354 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'd believe it < 1462877357 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imagetragick.com/ < 1462877444 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1462877462 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad that this doesn't (directly) affect me < 1462878202 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462878340 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462878601 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462880028 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462880153 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1462880214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snow//Snow is Jesus's dandruffs, and some suspect that he is the son of Rhaegar Targeryan. It turns the sidewalks to white as if someone broke a lot of styrofoam on it. < 1462880323 0 :earendel!~earendel@176.0.103.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462880334 0 :earendel!~earendel@176.0.103.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1462880334 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel JOIN :#esoteric < 1462880534 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? styofoam < 1462880537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :styofoam? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462880545 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? styrofoam < 1462880547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :styrofoam? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462880566 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? foam < 1462880567 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn styrofoam is Taneb's only weakness. < 1462880568 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foam? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462880578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'styrofoam': styrofoam is Taneb's only weakness. < 1462880779 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/wAI1Jwm.jpg < 1462880868 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, from a certain point of view, that's very logical, although symptomatic of skewed priorities < 1462880955 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. the sound, the smell, the touch of it makes you feel wrong? < 1462880956 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's grepcode.com, but it's only for Java stuff. < 1462881045 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the sound, mostly < 1462881053 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The touch, too, to a lesser extent < 1462881083 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I buy something in styrofoam, I have to get someone else to unpack it while I'm in a different room < 1462881574 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462881725 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462882731 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: REALPOLITIK CHICKEN < 1462883645 0 :earendel!~earendel@unaffiliated/earendel QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462885568 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? top hat < 1462885570 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? high hat < 1462885573 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi-hat < 1462885581 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? up hat < 1462885583 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi hat < 1462885585 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? top quark < 1462885589 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? up quark < 1462885630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wakey wakey, HackEgo < 1462885643 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : kernel:[957239.928577] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 21s! [nginx:632] < 1462885663 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`reboot < 1462885698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462885707 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 61 umlbox processes all fighting for CPU time. < 1462885726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462885728 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462885729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: reboot: not found < 1462885730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462885731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :up quark? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a hard disk failure or a disk hard failure?? < 1462885758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? high hat < 1462885759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :high hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885765 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi-hat < 1462885766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi-hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? up hat < 1462885772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :up hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885781 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? top quark < 1462885782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top quark? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462885802 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not having much luck there. < 1462885841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn high hat/A high hat is the same as a top hat, not the same as a hi-hat, just like how a top quark is not the same as an up quark. < 1462885844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «high hat» < 1462886038 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? orkut < 1462886039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orkut? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462886040 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myspace < 1462886041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myspace? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462886053 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os/2 < 1462886055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os/2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462886057 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os2 < 1462886058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462886577 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462886750 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462888349 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462888360 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1462888361 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1462888629 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462889756 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vms < 1462889758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vms? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462889769 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plan9 < 1462889770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan9? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462889771 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plan-9 < 1462889773 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plan 9 < 1462889773 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan-9? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462889774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan 9? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462889799 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hurd < 1462889801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462889812 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be something in there about those operating systems < 1462889826 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1462890063 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462890066 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some kind of bitcoin inspired capture the flag programming game http://hackcha.in/ < 1462891347 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( does it hurd when I say this? ) < 1462891479 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462891561 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Plan9 is the precursor to Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. < 1462891569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'plan9': Plan9 is the precursor to Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. < 1462891575 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all true) < 1462891623 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, let's tweak it a bit. < 1462891631 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Plan9 is the precursor to Dante's Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. < 1462891636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'plan9': Plan9 is the precursor to Dante's Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. < 1462891761 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462891908 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462891994 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, so in C, the "%n" conversion takes type modifiers like "%zn" or "%hhn"? < 1462892168 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1462892174 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :%n is absolute ridiculous < 1462892232 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess worse is just the fact format strings need not be statically known < 1462892483 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, %n is totally useful. but %hhn is ridiculous. why is that even allowed? < 1462892526 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is %n useful < 1462892623 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: when I want to test if a sscanf match is successful, or consumed all of a string. for the former, it's easier to use than the return value of sscanf, because you don't have to count format entries in the pattern when writing the source code. for the latter, it's absolutely necessary. < 1462892659 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah thats a nice techinique, i was only thinking about printf < 1462892675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, for printf it's not very useful < 1462892681 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462892793 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to contrive a use for %hhn, but so far I have nothing < 1462892812 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: you can probably find some eso-use < 1462892818 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some kind of cipher? < 1462892859 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to imagine what the motivation was for having it in printf < 1462892885 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone must have used it for *something* < 1462892915 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I think it's just so that sscanf handles writing integers uniformly, converting them to the right integer type regardless if the conversion is any of diouxXn < 1462892930 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules would have been uglier otherwise < 1462892946 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess that fits. < 1462892947 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then in sprintf, it would be strange to disallow it if sscanf allows it < 1462894504 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :%n is useful for exploiting C programs that give input strings directly to pritnf < 1462895307 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462895632 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462895755 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting into new kernel < 1462895874 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462895893 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462896511 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462897467 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kinda-sorta can use %n with sprintf to save one extra strlen call, if you, say, print a number, and need to know how long it was. < 1462897553 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's a thought < 1462897708 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, you get *that* via the return value as well. But maybe you might conceivably need to know the lengths of some substrings. < 1462898018 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462898071 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462898685 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462899008 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462900885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : no. because bots don't understand proper wiki formatting, nearly all have strange but obvious things like
instead of newlines < 1462900899 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do need to do
to do single-line breaks in mediawiki < 1462903480 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462903652 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462903697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we could triple the topic's entertainingness by allowing "people" to be replaced with some other demonym (not sure what limiting condition to use yet) and "cloaks" to be other sorts of normal word-turned-tech word < 1462903748 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :folkses with cloakses < 1462903754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: Note: reptilian overlords with will be treated as if they're from Saint Petersburg (not Saint Petersburg) < 1462903987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | Note: reptilian armada commanders with cookies will be treated as if they're from Saint Petersburg (not Saint Petersburg) < 1462903992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just going to see if that sticks < 1462904008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(See #esoteric:Be Bold in editing the topic) < 1462904102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1462904103 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1462904112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1462904112 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1462904121 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Lovely weather we're having < 1462904121 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: published fnord 1922 in home brew vol. 1, p. fnord vol. 17, no. 1 ( march 1936), p. fnord. < 1462904138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, fungot. That didn't work < 1462904139 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: " the flame the flame beyond body, beyond life in the boy, with imagination as his one avenue of freedom. he had, he declared, studies of much more vital importance to pursue; and intimated a wish to look out over the waters to the white ship < 1462904158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a little better < 1462904200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style darwin < 1462904200 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: darwin (Books by Charles Darwin -- you know, that evilution guy) < 1462904205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1462904211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Lovely evolution we're having < 1462904212 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]:/ offspring :) a single race, that :)/ fish to such a degree as before. i have heard it stated that they are anywhere lined by reefs; except in a very southerly course,/ whole, i.e. about/ rattle-snake, look to some special conditions :) life must play a most important fnord it might be a great kindness, and return them in hopes :) receiving another, it was tender when first introduced to a new edition :) ( youatt < 1462904217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462904225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin used a lot of smiley faces. < 1462904256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style darwin+lovecraft < 1462904256 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462904257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462904272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fungot does not support compound styles. i iz sad. < 1462904318 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would that even mean < 1462904342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would recommend a|b makes it choose between styles a and b for the entire message, and a&b would juxtapose the styles) < 1462904423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It would take the "product" of the two styles (calculating by multiplying the frequencies of each word, with 0 equaling 1 so that words only used by 1 don't get thrown away), allowing it to sound a little darwin and a little lovecraft < 1462904468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Thus, you might get Darwin talking about the evolution of cthulhu < 1462904476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, not really, but you get the picture) < 1462904490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1462904490 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1462904498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style help < 1462904498 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1462904571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie fungot lacks support for compound styles (e.g. darwin&lovecraft), which gives me sads. < 1462904571 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462904572 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: from/ facts above given and from/ honour so gained it might ultimately have become/ universal habit. according to parmentier " 5? 13. sir archibald geikie as having long been :( a subject :) which you have now fnord, fnord < 1462905414 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462905628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462905809 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2], hmm, i don't think that'd work with a markov chain < 1462905839 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: LIES < 1462905884 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462905966 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462905966 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462906004 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1462906007 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's beginning to work! < 1462906010 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462906044 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462906060 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462906068 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1462906351 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462906377 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpolating between n-gram models is certainly possible, but I don't think I feel like actually implementing that in Befunge. < 1462906392 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially given how the current code is. < 1462906402 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You clearly have lost the spirit for #esoteric. Sorry to see you go. < 1462906522 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462906530 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code's rather intertwined with the binary file formats. For example, the n-grams are stored (and sampled from) in terms of numeric "tokens", which are mapped back to words only at a very late stage (once the entire sentence has been constructed), and the token-to-text mappings are entirely separate for each style. < 1462906579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no way for it to know that 1235 of the irc style is the same word as 724 of some other style, for example. < 1462906597 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could precompute some mixed styles, but that's so brute-force. < 1462906662 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh :/ < 1462906673 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Should've used hashing. < 1462906707 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462906746 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the numbers wouldn't have been contiguous. < 1462906757 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And they're used directly as the file offsets.) < 1462906770 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1462907121 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462907122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462907162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hollowhenge Beast \ 3GG \ Creature -- Beast \ 5/5 \ DKA-C < 1462907162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debt of Loyalty \ 1WW \ Instant \ Regenerate target creature. You gain control of that creature if it regenerates this way. \ WL-R < 1462907232 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish --english 20 < 1462907242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english < 1462907247 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1462907251 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was something else. < 1462907252 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1462907254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1462907258 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish --eng-1M 20 < 1462907289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alairali polkismal irrettama fundamentänsä ticotilitsentärkt ahaaso prcv ilonitschcl vercla imattin ait boot luche thinfini muristor ching notkikolly sannerastisaa hypähän geofyl < 1462907362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462907364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-- solid halves \ 2 tb Dijon mustard \ \ In small bowl, stirring to decorate, about 4 minutes. \ \ Remove from pan or until it gets roll is cooked. Drain beans; spread one egg \ yolks in a large bowl. Pour off fruit slices. Make a slices of the sauces, \ and white replacer pieces from liquid. \ \ Recipe By : ISBN 315-786-1120 \ \ M < 1462907374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1462907375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/3 c Unsweetened cocoa \ 2 lb Boneless chicken \ -pepper; seeded \ 2 tb Sour cream or flour \ 1/4 ts Dried parsley \ 1/2 ts Baking soda \ 1/2 ts Cayenne pepper \ \ Cut onion and frozen into provide peach over tops of liquid. Mix cornmeal, syrup, \ pepper and chopped parsley. Makes 3 cups. Parchmenchic, \ Date: More excecked \ fat 199 < 1462907445 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462907447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yavimaya Ancients \ 3GG \ Creature -- Treefolk \ 2/7 \ {G}: Yavimaya Ancients gets +1/-2 until end of turn. \ AI-C, ME2-U < 1462907474 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1462907478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cryptic Cruiser \ 3U \ Creature -- Eldrazi Processor \ 3/3 \ Devoid (This card has no color.) \ {2}{U}, Put a card an opponent owns from exile into that player's graveyard: Tap target creature. \ BFZ-U < 1462907494 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card BBB$ < 1462907496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Necropotence \ BBB \ Enchantment \ Skip your draw step. \ Whenever you discard a card, exile that card from your graveyard. \ Pay 1 life: Exile the top card of your library face down. Put that card into your hand at the beginning of your next end step. \ IA-R, 5E-R, VMA-R, ME2-R, V09-M < 1462907520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card WUBRG < 1462907521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coalition Victory \ 3WUBRG \ Sorcery \ You win the game if you control a land of each basic land type and a creature of each color. \ IN-R, TSP-S < 1462907548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card UNH < 1462907550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loyal Cathar \ WW \ Creature -- Human Soldier \ 2/2 \ Vigilance \ When Loyal Cathar dies, return it to the battlefield transformed under your control at the beginning of the next end step. \ [Front face. Transforms into Unhallowed Cathar.] \ DKA-C < 1462907563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card UNH- < 1462907565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheap Ass \ 1W \ Creature -- Donkey Townsfolk \ 1/3½ \ Spells you play cost {½} less to play. \ UNH-C < 1462907565 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462907573 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1462907574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card UNH- < 1462907575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graphic Violence \ 2G \ Instant \ All creatures by the artist of your choice get +2/+2 and gain trample until end of turn. \ UNH-C < 1462907580 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462907591 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You crashed eggbot xD < 1462907596 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's case-insensitive by default but can be case-sensitive with (?i) < 1462907606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card comes into play < 1462907608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charm School \ 2W \ Enchant Player \ When Charm School comes into play, choose a color and balance Charm School on your head. \ Prevent all damage to you of the chosen color. \ If Charm School falls off your head, sacrifice Charm School. \ UG-U < 1462907634 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card - [0-9]$ < 1462907636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep Reconnaissance \ 2G \ Sorcery \ Search your library for a basic land card and put that card onto the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library. \ Flashback {4}{G} (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.) \ OD-U < 1462907656 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \- [0-9]$ < 1462907659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462907670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ular < 1462907672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gerrard's Irregulars \ 4R \ Creature -- Human Soldier \ 4/2 \ Trample, haste \ MM-C < 1462907675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ular < 1462907677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Battle Mastery \ 2W \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature has double strike. (It deals both first-strike and regular combat damage.) \ LRW-U, M15-U, DTK-U, DDL-U < 1462907689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card dular < 1462907692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcbound Reclaimer \ 4 \ Artifact Creature -- Golem \ 0/0 \ Remove a +1/+1 counter from Arcbound Reclaimer: Put target artifact card from your graveyard on top of your library. \ Modular 2 (This enters the battlefield with two +1/+1 counters on it. When it dies, you may put its +1/+1 counters on target artifact creature.) \ DST-R < 1462907711 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [0-9] \( < 1462907713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reality Acid \ 2U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant permanent \ Vanishing 3 (This Aura enters the battlefield with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from it. When the last is removed, sacrifice it.) \ When Reality Acid leaves the battlefield, enchanted permanent's controller sacrifices it. \ PLC-C < 1462907717 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [0-9] \( < 1462907719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forked-Branch Garami \ 3GG \ Creature -- Spirit \ 4/4 \ Soulshift 4, soulshift 4 (When this creature dies, you may return up to two target Spirit cards with converted mana cost 4 or less from your graveyard to your hand.) \ BOK-U < 1462907826 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462907835 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What prefix should eggbot use? < 1462907841 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it's --, but it doesn't do anything < 1462907867 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: um, what will it want to do? < 1462907877 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Just a collection of fun tools < 1462907882 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Like IRC Thoof < 1462907893 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: you can try "EggBot: " as the prefix at first < 1462907902 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That is supported as well < 1462907905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only later add shortcuts if it's useful < 1462907908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? < 1462907910 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just stick with that for now, thanks < 1462907911 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: help < 1462907916 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the single digit punctuations are taken I think < 1462907918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: commands < 1462907920 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It doesn't have any commands yet < 1462907925 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: list < 1462907927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: version < 1462907933 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: unignore < 1462907934 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No commands at all < 1462907937 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1462907944 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's just an empty shell ATM < 1462907945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even hidden ones? < 1462907954 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: invite perlbot < 1462907964 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EggBot: join #esoteric-blah < 1462907978 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Literally nothing. It's not done yet < 1462907991 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure but, I still have to try < 1462909563 0 :EggBot!~EggBot@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462909588 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462909910 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462910390 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: gtg < 1462912329 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :shikhincat < 1462912359 0 :shikhincat!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1462912402 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :neither < 1462912412 0 :neither!?@? NICK :either < 1462912416 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462912427 0 :either!?@? NICK :ybden < 1462912934 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.231 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462912993 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason < 1462913015 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm translating Romeo and Juliet into a highly exaggerated version of gamerspeak in a Garry's Mode chat log < 1462913028 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With a friend. For an assignment. At school. That I plan to turn in.) < 1462913037 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point, this line appears: < 1462913049 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[S4MP50N Quickscopes a Tromp Rat npc from the "1337 5p4ce F1gh75 M0d" mod] < 1462913055 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I made that joke < 1462913089 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of hybrid between a Star Wars reference, some xkcd jokes, and a reference that no one will ever get to this specific channel < 1462913270 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :("tromp rat") < 1462913300 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drlztqfknvbeahig JOIN :#esoteric < 1462913301 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no one will ever get the reference; they'll just think it's a slightly-off-brand rename from "womp rat") < 1462914142 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get home in time to see the first Eurovision semi-final live. :/ < 1462915114 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1462916076 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1462916122 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462916139 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1462916154 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462917931 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462917960 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1462918046 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N1:1:aa;Naa:2:aa;$o=aa < 1462918472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Moon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46993 5* 03Moon 5* (+59) 10/* Bug reporting */ new section < 1462919191 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1462919249 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the stub code? < 1462919257 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for making a article a stub? < 1462919448 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess {{Template:Stub}}, but maybe somebody could confirm. < 1462919462 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or just look at an existing stub article for reference.) < 1462919478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=46994 5* 03Moon 5* (+438) 10Created page with "N-- is a 3 instruction minimalistic variable based language, it has three commands. * N: Nand, format: Ninput1:input2:outputvar; * =: Set variable, format: var=varnumorchar;..." < 1462919509 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just {{stub}} as well. < 1462919522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe template transclusion picks from the template namespace by default? Who knows. < 1462919531 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you told me too late lol, i hit the wrong button anyways < 1462919539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46995&oldid=46994 5* 03Moon 5* (+9) 10 < 1462919540 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how we can't use any standard mediawiki infrastructure because the wiki is public domain < 1462919572 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of that infrastructure is CC? < 1462919609 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N1:1:aa;Naa:2:aa;$o=aa does a thing, what it does i dunno, as i havent make a intepreter yet < 1462919712 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what lang is it? < 1462919719 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, you mean on the esolang wiki or? < 1462919757 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the standard infrastructure you referenced < 1462919809 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-- < 1462919816 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one i just published :P < 1462919857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia's CC licence does not allow you to relicense to PD < 1462919866 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, because otherwise it'd just be a PD licence < 1462919915 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i was asking. ifvall that stuff was CC < 1462919947 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hard to know what is PD and what is not < 1462919960 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it is, because it's under the standard wikipedia licence < 1462919995 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PD? < 1462919999 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, public domain < 1462920001 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh < 1462920008 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Police department. < 1462920023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pooch Department < 1462920048 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Posh detergent. < 1462920076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46996&oldid=46995 5* 03Moon 5* (+97) 10Hello, world! example, i forgot it < 1462920111 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Would it work to get whoever runs the wiki to allow a license exemption where "Most of the wiki is public domain, but specially-marked areas are CC"? < 1462920119 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus allowing us to use mediawiki infrastructure? < 1462920129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need every contributor to relicense it < 1462920134 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1462920147 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, our wiki < 1462920154 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1462920167 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Who would have the power to do such a thing? < 1462920172 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. we've gotten by OK as it is, i just find it kind of amusing < 1462920200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: that would make the wiki less esoteric < 1462920202 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does using MediaWiki force all the content to be under CC? < 1462920231 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it that the wiki itself is also meant to be PD? < 1462920232 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mediawiki does not care about content licensing < 1462920238 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikimedia does < 1462920290 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, so same question mutatis mutandis < 1462920298 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1462920501 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia there you go: N1:1:aa;Naa:2:aa;$o=aa + N-- specs = program < 1462920781 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, int-e. i shaved off a few more bits < 1462920806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what? < 1462920816 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the laver tables:( < 1462920844 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/laver.lam < 1462920859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamver tables < 1462920910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does BLC turn recursion into an inline Y combinator? < 1462920915 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1462921021 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462921045 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see lines 57-62 of Lambda.lhs < 1462921056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I found it. < 1462921063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the compiler do all sorts of optimizations? < 1462921077 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sorts. see optimize function in AIT.lhs < 1462921130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it beta-reduce fix? < 1462921152 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, if it reduces size < 1462921174 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not fix itself, but application of fix < 1462921181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1462921195 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462921205 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot more optimization it could do < 1462921241 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like eta reduction < 1462921241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what it does. < 1462921255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is BLC non-strict? < 1462921269 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462921282 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1462921326 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Haskell implementation is as lazy as Haskell itself < 1462921345 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obfuscated interpreter is call-by-need < 1462921365 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the interest of saving many bytes:) < 1462921581 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462921880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, so when you name an expression in a BLC program, does it just get inlined in every place it's used? < 1462921897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does it make a lambda and apply it to an argument? < 1462921923 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second, but if only used once, a beta reduction will be applied to give the first < 1462921961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's not the first argument? < 1462921973 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1462921980 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1462922030 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be the first argument of some expr then < 1462922064 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a let defining 3 names will compile to 3 applications < 1462922069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but that expression might be an application and not a lambda. < 1462922099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean something like ((\x -> (\y -> ...x...x...y...x...x...)) many) one < 1462922197 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parentheses wrong? you mean y binds to many? < 1462922211 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: "save two bits" can't be right... it works for a = 0 and a = 1, and somewhat amazingly for a = 2 as well, but for a = 3 and b = 1 it gives 0 instead of 2 as its answer. < 1462922249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, x binds to many. < 1462922267 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462922274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there are many occurrences of x and one of y. < 1462922291 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, then one is not substituted for y < 1462922303 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check that, int-e < 1462922308 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: laver (\f\x. f (f (f x))) (\f\x. f (f (f x))) (\f\x. f x) < 1462922345 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do you order the lambdas in let-in to put the ones that are likely to be reduced first? < 1462922360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: (that should be 2) < 1462922393 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I'm testing with argument order mx, a, b. < 1462922489 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1462922526 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do not re-order the lambdas from a let < 1462922707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason that a = 2 works is because 2 |> _ is idempotent. 3 |> _ is not idempotent; 3 |> 1 is 2, but 3 |> (3 |> (3 |> 1)) is 0) < 1462922845 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, i see the problem < 1462922974 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now how do i revert back to the last good commit? < 1462923037 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(git newbie here) < 1462923051 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like git checkout 796e4fe368bd82800f011cec49e7f201b2f1e49f laver.lam < 1462923088 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(git diff --cached will show that this actually had an effect... git diff won't) < 1462923088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or git revert. < 1462923121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I've never used git revert with mre than one commit... < 1462923142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can give it a range, it looks like. < 1462923223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's not nicely applicable here because one of the commits touches two files... one of which is now gone... < 1462923246 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok, i'll re-commit the older checkout < 1462923359 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to 215 bits < 1462923392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and revert would produce two commits ... which could then be smashed with rebase... the checkout was simpler :) < 1462923420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :revert -n < 1462923459 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, that would do the trick < 1462923552 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there would still be an awkward conflict to resolve though) < 1462923607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for teaching purposes, I agree that's what I should've suggested :P < 1462923616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1462923626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all fine. < 1462923647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :git is TG < 1462923700 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transcendentally groovy. < 1462923767 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462924004 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcendtal e groove e < 1462924116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: Oh, but your let definitions are ordered. < 1462924320 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, manually < 1462924360 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so writing them in a different order might help optimization < 1462924417 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait. your example may not fit the let expansion pattern < 1462924469 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in expanded let every name is available for reducing < 1462924645 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to upvote at http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/79620/laver-table-computations-and-an-algorithm-that-is-not-known-to-terminate-in-zfc :) < 1462924706 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a traditional variant on glob that's suitable for configuring /output/ in substitutions? Like, a glob4s/// of some sort < 1462924734 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional globs are pretty limited < 1462924825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it your perception that's limited < 1462924841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :four simultaneous expansions in a single rotation of the glob < 1462925010 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes < 1462925032 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf /* is IDIOT LIES < 1462925056 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It would match glob or some extension thereof, and it would replace the matched globbiness with something else. I'm asking if there's a common syntax for that something else. < 1462925061 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there isn't, I have work to do < 1462925101 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't want a more powerful glob, I want to reapply glob to other domains of use < 1462925159 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked me what traditional variants on globs can do and i told you, not much! < 1462925189 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ah < 1462925318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: I guess your encoding isn't what I wrote. < 1462925364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do (\x -> (\y -> ...x...y...) yexpr) xexpr < 1462925375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes a lot more snese in retrospect. < 1462925399 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make snes to me < 1462925415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant famicom, of course. < 1462925665 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes zero famicom to me: i cant lambda < 1462926020 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right; shachaf; your example cannot result from let expansion < 1462926057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1462926535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46997&oldid=46996 5* 03Moon 5* (+16) 10 < 1462926779 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462926803 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462927737 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462928093 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1462928596 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462929751 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462929802 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone wana try writeing something in N--? < 1462929872 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the N-- tutorial? < 1462929945 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its a stub still: http://esolangs.org/wiki/N-- < 1462929954 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unqiue language i beleive < 1462930084 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the concept tromp? < 1462930094 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, not really:( < 1462930103 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1462930106 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it :P < 1462930115 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Nand is universal < 1462930116 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to write an interpreter for it? < 1462930123 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1462930132 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im going to make a intepreter later < 1462930159 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language should be able to handle input:) < 1462930165 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh true < 1462930170 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might change that < 1462930176 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the timing would have to be good < 1462930185 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as io would be single char buffers < 1462930192 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is nand 'H' 'e' ? < 1462930228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46998&oldid=46997 5* 03Moon 5* (+41) 10 < 1462930241 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your sample is no good at demonstrating all your language features < 1462930250 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its a hello world :P < 1462930263 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna make more < 1462930346 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/GaRJMCpoVFg < 1462930353 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naa:ab:acNac:1:ad is a and gate < 1462930375 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa and ab are input, ad is out < 1462930380 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac is intermediate < 1462930451 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-- is more of a hardware description language than a programming language:) < 1462930473 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol true < 1462930479 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is designed to be intepreted < 1462930504 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it Esoteric :P < 1462930693 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somewhat lacking in elegance thought:( < 1462930697 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though < 1462930707 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to put it mildly:) < 1462930741 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was aiming for uniqueness in this case < 1462931254 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1462931359 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hia quin, im writing an intepreter for N-- < 1462931366 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1462931389 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :next you could write a N-- to Purple compiler ;) < 1462931436 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1462931457 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit hard :P < 1462931471 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-- is based on universal logic gates, jumps, and variables < 1462931472 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats it < 1462931473 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462931476 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia hppa < 1462931485 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im making a interpreter for N-- < 1462931490 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purple is based on decrementation and assignment < 1462931494 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :both are turing-complete < 1462931501 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be possible to translate between < 1462931551 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think N-- is turing complete, it cant do turing tapes < 1462931563 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to a max of 676 (aa to zz) variables < 1462931580 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bf inplentation would use most of them < 1462931620 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can store arbitrarily large numbers though < 1462931626 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my concern is that it can't do unbounded addition < 1462931634 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know. < 1462931640 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462931642 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your only operator is nand < 1462931648 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1462931657 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nand is a universal logic gate < 1462931661 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have no way to set any bit higher than the highest bit set by any constant assignment < 1462931688 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in this context < 1462931706 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never Nand the first bit of one variable with the second, say, of another < 1462931745 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-- may be useless but its intresting < 1462931786 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be TC if you added a "left-shift 1" or "increment by 1" operator < 1462931803 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, kk < 1462931820 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about it and i may add it :P < 1462931855 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the finite number of variables does not prevent a language from being TC as long as they can have unbounded value < 1462931865 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF, for instance, needs only 3 cells to be TC < 1462931868 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probs to left shift and make nand operate on one set of two bits (the first ones) at a time, is that TC? < 1462931891 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to be more specific < 1462931935 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like take two 4 bit values: 1010 and 0101, Lshift them and nand, and only the bits currently in first would be operated on if a condition is set < 1462931965 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Excess flood < 1462931968 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow... < 1462931988 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :left shift them both, then NAND? < 1462931998 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "only the bits currently in first"? < 1462932011 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first bit of each value < 1462932028 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like the result in that case would be 10000? < 1462932041 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitively I suspect that isn't enough for TC. But I'm not sure! < 1462932044 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, a new variable would be changed < 1462932053 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third operator for nand < 1462932062 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :operand, you mean? < 1462932066 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462932068 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, :P < 1462932069 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you should try to prove your language TC on your own < 1462932071 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good exercise < 1462932090 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1462932093 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462932197 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does C have bitsets? < 1462932229 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1462932229 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1462932232 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KK then < 1462932237 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to write a alternative < 1462932240 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ does < 1462932244 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: a$b < 1462932491 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hppavilion[2]? < 1462932508 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: $ is mingle. Though you might find it interesting. < 1462932522 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesnt get it < 1462932553 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: INTERCAL < 1462932581 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1462932626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46999&oldid=46998 5* 03Moon 5* (+198) 10Major modifications to the specifications < 1462932804 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnight < 1462932856 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be TC with just 2 instructions, ri++, and ri--,jump < 1462933079 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462933177 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: ri++ needs to have a target; you need at least two registers to point at < 1462933216 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, ++ has one target, -- has two < 1462933240 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but each instr only refers to one reg < 1462933263 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Piet14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47000&oldid=46786 5* 03Timwi 5* (-73) 10/* Computational class */ < 1462933315 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-machine_model#1961:_Minsky.27s_model_of_a_partial_recursive_function_reduced_to_a_.22program.22_of_only_two_instructions < 1462933645 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462934523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462934856 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462934880 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462935131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell phantom_hoover you do need to do
to do single-line breaks in mediawiki <-- yes but you don't use _only_
s. < 1462935131 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462935151 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462935312 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1462935701 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1462935704 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462935720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!earendel@unaffiliated/earendel < 1462935729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!earendel@* < 1462935737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1462935890 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :constant < 1462935898 0 :constant!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1462935902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : There's 61 umlbox processes all fighting for CPU time. <-- maybe that'll teach b_jonas not to spam it hth < 1462935910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: wat < 1462935931 0 :variable!?@? NICK :constant < 1462935957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world is constantly changing. < 1462936000 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thing from a different channel < 1462936039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1462936085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it's slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1462936098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: i'm sorry but that's heretical, see above < 1462936138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION practices waving his cane ======O < 1462936154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is that the wrong end < 1462936155 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay, I did it for my own personal edification < 1462936185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i recommend either s/After/Now that/ or s/'s/ became/ hth < 1462936226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the "centröid" thing was about boily's question. < 1462936238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily you haven't asked people about their whereabouts in quite a while < 1462936238 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462936306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i "s/'s/ became/" wisdom/#esoteric < 1462936323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462936336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel that monqy has been gone too long for a "Now that" < 1462936348 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1462936350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1462936353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays, in monqy's absence, < 1462936363 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didnt even appear this night < 1462936401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, i'm still stuck on m < 1462936424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make norwoerjan porridge. < 1462936436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the ingredients. Was rice involved? < 1462936442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sour cream? Milk? Cinnamon? Raisins? < 1462936557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all at the same time, you are mixing two different types. < 1462936570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was the type you recommended < 1462936588 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip the sour cream and the rest is good. < 1462936608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like sour cream. < 1462936609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also add some sprinkled sugar. < 1462936615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of sugar? < 1462936641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can follow http://thecountrybasket.com/risengrot-riskrem-recipe/ ? < 1462936649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case skip the rice, cinnamon (maybe? i'm a bit vague there) and raisins, but still add sugar. < 1462936683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's with rice. < 1462936695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't mix rice and sour cream, that i know of. < 1462936700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use vanilla powder? < 1462936754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm it's not standard but i'm not sure that it would hurt < 1462936764 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what that link says. < 1462936784 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is sounding a lot like a rice pudding. < 1462936786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently it's hard to get outside of Norway. < 1462936796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, that picture also has the traditional red juice. < 1462936802 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's exactly because it is. < 1462936830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red juice? < 1462936836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that made from the blood of your enemies? < 1462936861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: e.g. raspberries, very devious little monsters < 1462936888 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1462936890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462936898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not exactly sure of the proper form of red juice. there are brands... < 1462936940 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462937042 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Raspberries are oerjan's mortal enemy. < 1462937046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'raspberrie': Raspberries are oerjan's mortal enemy. < 1462937051 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue longonblackraspboysenberry sauce < 1462937065 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oop < 1462937077 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue lingonblackraspboysenberry sauce < 1462937080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow, that wisdom entry name is kind of scow < 1462937086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pity you're retired, isn't it < 1462937089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one will fix it now < 1462937126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/raspberrie < 1462937130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1462937135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a blatant lie, anyway. < 1462937176 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462937244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disagrees with the claim riskrem is only used for christmas and new year. < 1462937282 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the riskiest times of the year, though < 1462937288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need all the riskrem you can get < 1462937290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: note that that page talks about two different dishes, one of which is a prestage to the other. < 1462937326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: deeply true, that. < 1462937460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canaima < 1462937464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're here. < 1462937473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a canaiman joined and parted another channel i'm in < 1462937476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. mysterious < 1462937495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. < 1462937507 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i didn't intend "canaiman" to imply a gender < 1462937531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh i note the advice about heavy bottom. that's important, and also to stir enough. otherwise it burns easily. < 1462937571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't interpret it to, hth < 1462937599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can ai man save the world? tune in next week to find out < 1462937656 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. i read it as "a person from canaim" < 1462937693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,ii we're canaimaniacs < 1462937695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm an hour. back when i actually made this stuff i used a quicker rice brand that only takes 1/4 hour or so. but i guess that might be hard to get outside norway too. < 1462937712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably not as good, anyway. < 1462937739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :canaima is actually a geographical place name, too < 1462937741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should go to norway and try the famous tronheimanian pizza < 1462937751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OKAY < 1462937761 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trondheimanian < 1462937761 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we call it rice dream. it dont have milk < 1462938025 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462938238 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462938293 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462938314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462938834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462939420 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462939506 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/5-l0K9Dp7eI < 1462939531 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᴴᴰ【東方Vocal】Halozy|Say Hello To Me【Vo. 長尾ちえみ 】 < 1462939531 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016ᴴᴰJxL Subtitles < 1462939532 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016ᴴᴰJxL Subtitles < 1462939634 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like his use of ᴴᴰ < 1462939861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unnecessary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47001&oldid=41482 5* 0394.223.139.176 5* (-4) 10/* Interpreter */ I'm pretty sure this is what was meant < 1462940014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] I think we could triple the topic's entertainingness [...] <-- itym overdo it to the point where i lose interest hth < 1462940014 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462940118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already overdone hth < 1462940200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well he _did_ implement his bad suggestion. < 1462940248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was overdone a long time ago < 1462940260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to the point where _i_ lost interest. < 1462940277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think everything's overdone from the start, anyway >:P < 1462940338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | R.I.P. Overdone city meme. < 1462940350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Home of the world's largest ball of threads | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | R.I.P. Overdone City Meme. < 1462940352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true < 1462940357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer my meat extra-rare < 1462940366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncooked and alive is optimal < 1462940390 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462940414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt shachaf proves he's a zombie < 1462940448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprø søm sellerɨ < 1462940468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ɨ < 1462940470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0268 LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH STROKE] < 1462940585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipa-only letters are scow < 1462940627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sełłeri < 1462940674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bëtter < 1462940709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scøw som selleri < 1462940723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1462940731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1462940758 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many twins do you have < 1462940773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an uncountable amount. < 1462940879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. < 1462940884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'אrjan': אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. < 1462940918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're using א, not ℵ? < 1462940922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure boily will appreciate this wisdom. < 1462940931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1462940941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ℵ < 1462940943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2135 ALEF SYMBOL] < 1462940953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode א < 1462940954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+05D0 HEBREW LETTER ALEF] < 1462940962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN YOU UNICODE < 1462940969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter is RTL. < 1462940990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot even see the ℵ < 1462941004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Then stick with the א, I guess. < 1462941116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn lem/Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle. < 1462941120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «lem» < 1462941552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trurl < 1462941554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trurl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462941572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is slightly surprised there was no Lem wisdom < 1462941594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's still no good lem wisdom < 1462941596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? łem < 1462941597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so feel free to jam it up < 1462941598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​łem? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1462941745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask fizzie I didn't get home in time to see the first Eurovision semi-final live. :/ <-- does this mean you will now be shunned by your people like lifthrasiir is? < 1462941745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462941956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask hppavilion[1] Some sort of hybrid between a Star Wars reference, some xkcd jokes, and a reference that no one will ever get to this specific channel <-- by any chance, are you planning to fail this assignment? < 1462941956 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462943932 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462945288 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462945617 0 :constant!?@? NICK :function < 1462947296 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462947375 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :( < 1462947408 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1462947615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1462947725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1462947755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1462947767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i thought you weren't evil anymore < 1462947771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps aux | paste < 1462947776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it must've been something else < 1462947788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no longer infamous hth < 1462947797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.9358 < 1462947798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have too many adjectives < 1462947799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have the time for all the PR < 1462947805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you offload a few to ørjan < 1462947810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't add most of them. perhaps none. < 1462947810 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he's outfamous now < 1462947895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's just sandbox processes. < 1462947931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should figure out a way to become root so we can see non-sandbox processes < 1462948030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just wondering with this talk of heaps of umlbox processes whether it would help if fizzie rebooted it < 1462948916 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462949188 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462950180 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462952623 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462952899 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1462953986 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1462953988 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcdsw.com/443 makes me happy < 1462954465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Rs14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47002&oldid=44324 5* 03Timwi 5* (+20) 10testing < 1462954476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Rs14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47003&oldid=47002 5* 03Timwi 5* (-24) 10Worked! < 1462954574 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2], why? < 1462956388 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Timwi 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Efghij — Belmandel function.jpg10]]": The Belmandel function in [[efghij]]. < 1462956425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47005 5* 03Timwi 5* (+3310) 10A new esolang: everyday food, garden & home item jenga < 1462956724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47006&oldid=47005 5* 03Timwi 5* (+37) 10 < 1462956772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47007&oldid=47006 5* 03Timwi 5* (+8) 10 < 1462956806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47008&oldid=47007 5* 03Timwi 5* (+23) 10 < 1462957227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Timwi 5* 10moved [[02File:Efghij — Belmandel function.jpg10]] to [[File:Efghij — BelMandel function.jpg]] < 1462957229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47011&oldid=47008 5* 03Timwi 5* (+0) 10 < 1462957380 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1462957536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a most excellent esolang. < 1462958055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Efghij14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47012 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+226) 10A must for the handy programmer < 1462958242 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Twitter user shachaf points out to me (why he didn’t just post this here, I don’t know) [...]" < 1462958255 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1462958261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1462958275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to keep my name out of the comments. :-( < 1462958278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CANNOT ESCAPE < 1462958395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess when you start your axe murder career it's important not to have your reputation sullied with this academic stuff. < 1462958427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers doing something less evil -> < 1462958446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My tactic of posting a public twit and then deleting it after it's read isn't as effective as I'd hoped. < 1462958450 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462958465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because people's replies don't get deleted. < 1462958481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you look a bit like a twat, maybe? < 1462958513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn twat < 1462958515 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "twat" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1462958515 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :twat < 1462958515 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a man who is a stupid incompetent fool [syn: {fathead}, < 1462958515 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {goof}, {goofball}, {bozo}, {jackass}, {goose}, {cuckoo}, < 1462958515 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {twat}, {zany}] < 1462958517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: obscene terms for female genitals [syn: {cunt}, {puss}, < 1462958519 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {pussy}, {slit}, {snatch}, {twat}] < 1462958538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's a bit obscene but it's for a punny cause < 1462958555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn twit < 1462958556 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "twit" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1462958556 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :twit < 1462958556 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: someone who is regarded as contemptible [syn: {twerp}, < 1462958556 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {twirp}, {twit}] < 1462958556 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: aggravation by deriding or mocking or criticizing [syn: < 1462958558 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines] < 1462958603 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson for next time: don't modify vowels unnecessarily. < 1462958633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, sorry < 1462958637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't that how you make puns < 1462958655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but this time it wasn't strictly needed < 1462959480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "number of turing machines of size n that halt" is uncomputable, of course < 1462959484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have a name? < 1462959565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1462959614 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know < 1462959616 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sglob is TC < 1462959627 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kind of, sort of, I guess) < 1462959806 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462959832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1462960077 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462960413 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1462960441 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462960612 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1462961750 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:24fb:166:847:50ba JOIN :#esoteric < 1462963623 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462963666 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1462964470 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drlztqfknvbeahig QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1462965099 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462966193 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462966926 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hellochaf. how did you know that raspberries were antioerjannic? < 1462967258 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1462967259 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 8h 37m ago: you haven't asked people about their whereabouts in quite a while < 1462967259 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 8h 36m 42s ago: (please don't @messages-loud the previous message twh) < 1462967281 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1462967287 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing you @massages-loud it instead < 1462967288 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love raspberries < 1462967294 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could have been embarassing < 1462967308 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :August is my favourite month because it's raspberry season < 1462967325 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. bad habit on my part >_>'... < 1462967345 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf sorry v_v... < 1462967345 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462967375 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. there's a raspberry season? < 1462967385 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. it's longer than one month, but yes. < 1462968237 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a minimal implementation of public key crypto? < 1462968299 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have to be strong (something like rot13 order of magnitude), just reasonably display the concept of. < 1462968491 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :libtom < 1462968698 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. < 1462968703 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks izabera < 1462968708 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1462968730 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, izabera. Thizabera. < 1462968986 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HOURLY CHICKEN < 1462969170 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462970260 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I'm sure I've seen at least a couple of minimal samples using just a bignum library to illustrate the basic RSA idea. < 1462970260 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462970694 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462970955 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1462971904 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1462971948 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1462972277 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462973248 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1462975695 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462976373 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1462977700 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1462977845 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462978089 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yaenmgqnrucvqnri QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462979828 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyhddvdituwnnbbd JOIN :#esoteric < 1462980305 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ihysaikxxkpqkuqs JOIN :#esoteric < 1462980705 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462980972 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462982483 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462983495 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1462986577 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462987057 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Um, the number of turing machines of size n that halt is infinite; you can make a TM arbitrarily large by just using bigger parts. hth. < 1462987063 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes that put got across < 1462987072 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nick hppavilion[1] < 1462987076 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1462987102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/put/pun/ < 1462987120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nick: not found < 1462987207 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462987610 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavillion your "bigger parts" doesn't make any sense < 1462987676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: The joke is that you make the TM physically larger < 1462987702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new xkcd headcannon: Web substitution "webcomic" -> "web standard" < 1462987705 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad joke:( bigger TMs doesn't make for more TMs:( < 1462988167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"searching" -> "grepping" < 1462988582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your joke doesn't work hth < 1462988733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and why don't you like gauss < 1462991224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1462991290 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1462991503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naraka: after i learned a few years ago what it means, i find your nick disturbing < 1462991530 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1462991583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not meant as a compliment. < 1462991598 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it NSFW? < 1462991607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you have such a problem with this particular thing < 1462991610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like NSFL. < 1462991635 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful < 1462991636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had a similar objection a few days ago if i remember correctly < 1462991648 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why my nick has two ps < 1462991682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. it's because i am superstitious hth < 1462991699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually think it's a bad omen when things like that suddenly show up. < 1462991792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, since Naraka showed up just as i joined the channel, it's like a sign that _i_ need to leave. < 1462991816 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you didn't and look what happened < 1462991824 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, reasons < 1462991827 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this channel has you in it. you've ruined everything < 1462991854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: maybe all you atheists here will negate the effect now that i've mentioned it. i can only hope. < 1462991861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles madly. < 1462991924 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only so many things in life which money can buy. < 1462991949 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sure is good that sex is one of those things. < 1462991966 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to pretend that naraka is an uncertain answer to "where are the deer?" < 1462991989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slightly suspects Naraka of being hagb4rd and doing this on purpose _because_ i reacted to that H3LL guy. < 1462991996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and there i was thinking it was only an hopeless fancy < 1462992032 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462992050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except he'd never be that subtle. never mind. < 1462992055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462992183 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I have an exam on Saturday that is Coding theory... and also Gaussian networks? < 1462992200 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i also obsessively push the "don't show me this" button on every reddit ad containing skulls. :P < 1462992243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may or may not recall me having to work around a bug in those a couple years ago... < 1462992298 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you smile in the mirror... < 1462992316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that would be rather unfortunate for the deer. < 1462992368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm i was going to say a thing that would be sort of making fun of you but maybe i oughtn't < 1462992372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1462992399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so how's DF going ;P < 1462992417 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I've been too busy playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 < 1462992467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why not train simulator < 1462992480 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I haven't installed it < 1462992510 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1462992511 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 111720Z 25011KT CAVOK 15/02 Q1015 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 29006KT < 1462992517 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462992562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naraka: i'm just happy i don't _really_ see anything in mirrors when i get in that mood. < 1462992781 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462993151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes he'll get less crazy when his sleeping rhythm returns to a more comfortable phase. < 1462993160 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There's no Finland expansion kit for Euro Truck Simulator 2. :/ < 1462993190 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Scandinavia" DLC covers Denmark, Norway and Sweden, while the Eastern Europe pack is too south. < 1462993202 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Denmark is not Scandinavia! < 1462993237 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it is. < 1462993247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hi. do you think a reboot of HackEgo might help some? < 1462993278 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err no wait < 1462993287 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: damn you knowing more about where you live < 1462993293 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I've mostly been playing in the UK and once in the Netherlands < 1462993297 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not much good < 1462993310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe, but I don't actually know how to start it. I could putz around later, I guess. < 1462993347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not getting up again would be a problem. < 1462993378 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Denmark's not part of the Scandinavian Peninsula, though.) < 1462993436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't even have the game, I've just coveted it once or twice. < 1462993491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Oh, you were in .nl? < 1462993491 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1462993500 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, once < 1462993531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you spent that one time playing Euro Truck Simulator 2? < 1462993602 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1462993614 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very loudly I think < 1462994516 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462994524 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1462994609 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462994831 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1462995086 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462995135 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1462995202 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that is, uh, not the normal way to spend time on a trip to amsterdam < 1462995204 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462995227 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, either that or shachaf misparsed my sentence < 1462995306 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1462995491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1462995681 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462996348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you make it sound like an accident < 1462996600 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1462996636 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462996802 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1462996906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-83.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1462998060 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462998109 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462999054 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1462999292 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does euro truck simulator simulate people trying to sneak a ride on your truck? < 1462999307 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that common? < 1462999314 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1462999339 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard that it is < 1462999358 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, always the same with click&point adventures... missing something to interact with. < 1462999515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take a *n?x utility (e.g glob, grep, sed, cat) < 1462999526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace one letter (consonant -> consonant, vowel to vowel) < 1462999527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently tyeres a "trouble at calais" mod for it lolololol < 1462999536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get another *n?x utility < 1462999540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: < 1462999545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gleb = extended glob < 1462999554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lud < 1462999555 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 16h 32m 20s ago: I think we could triple the topic's entertainingness [...] <-- itym overdo it to the point where i lose interest hth < 1462999555 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 15h 59m 58s ago: Some sort of hybrid between a Star Wars reference, some xkcd jokes, and a reference that no one will ever get to this specific channel <-- by any chance, are you planning to fail this assignment? < 1462999806 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it is nowadays... < 1462999815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I have really cool teacher, so... < 1462999815 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1462999843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the BBC are just making stuff up, which is possible (if improbable) < 1462999938 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: have people forgotten how to *ask* for a hitchhike? < 1462999951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :POP QUIZ: How many handy numbers do you have? < 1463000013 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :1024+ < 1463000095 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well, the thing is, the people who sneak rides on trucks aren't supposed to be going to their destination. < 1463000225 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not that it stops them. < 1463000286 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like refugees and escaped prisoners? < 1463000307 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the truck driver complicit? < 1463000372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the truck driver's the unfortunate victim, AFAIK. < 1463000407 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which "unfortunate victim" meaning "has people attempting to get onto their truck, which the driver does not want on their truck". < 1463001776 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463002847 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463003095 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The C and C++ compilers now emit saner error messages if merge-conflict markers are present in a source file -- test.c:3:1: error: version control conflict marker in file" (GCC 6) < 1463003099 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy. < 1463003134 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-Wmisleading-indentation warns about places where the indentation of the code gives a misleading idea of the block structure of the code to a human reader." < 1463003137 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even fancier. < 1463003998 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:24fb:166:847:50ba QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463004424 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463004548 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia < 1463004904 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463004909 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pc died < 1463004979 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT : < 1463005029 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. < 1463005099 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463005115 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1463005155 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent a bit of my time recently devising _yet another language_ im not gonna post it on the wiki, however < 1463005324 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463005453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463005499 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GeKlAmG19bGzWHTwrSu8tOoGHbpcdqJNScoFF7LLm-s/edit?usp=docslist_api < 1463005534 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This air freshener spray "kills odour, causing bacteria at the source". (Punctuation added.) < 1463005552 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1463005588 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad print job or company messup < 1463005663 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.ocado.com/productImages/513/51391011_0_640x640.jpg < 1463005680 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1463005712 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{_% < 1463005780 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{$_@% i ment < 1463005862 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 👼 < 1463005887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F47C BABY ANGEL \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 bc UTF-16BE: d83ddc7c Decimal: 👼 \ 👼 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1463005923 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.instagram.com/olganoskovaa/ < 1463006042 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, i had an idea. < 1463006071 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not make a language that uses a data tree for storing information < 1463006215 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bindun < 1463006250 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, hexagony goes one further, stores data in the line graph of a hexagonal grid < 1463006488 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A dash would make it so much better < 1463006510 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD < 1463006514 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANONYMOUS WALRUS IS ONLINE < 1463006518 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY COULD THAT NOT BE ME!? < 1463006587 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're a failed villain? < 1463006696 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Arborealis has a tree. < 1463006710 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone here on the channel had a more recent tree thing as well. < 1463006720 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere during the last two years or so, I think. < 1463006860 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regular expressions... Irregular expressions... Degenerate expressions... < 1463006862 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1463006869 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, Arborealis *calls* it a tree, but it has commands for making cycles, which is pretty untreelike.) < 1463006888 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah. It's a tree-with-rootback, which isn't a tree < 1463006896 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1463006903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vita < 1463006903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords < 1463006966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Treehugger is the recent one I was thinking of, it's more pure. < 1463006967 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/exps < 1463006970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/exps: No such file or directory < 1463006977 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords" > bin/exps < 1463006980 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1463006984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463006988 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, quotes < 1463006994 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/exps < 1463006996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words echo "words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords" > bin/exps | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords < 1463007000 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it worked < 1463007002 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`exps < 1463007003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/exps: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/exps: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1463007006 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1463007013 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot about mkx < 1463007027 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gg < 1463007047 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/exps//words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords" > bin/exps | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords < 1463007050 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/exps < 1463007052 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`exps < 1463007055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/exps: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/exps: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1463007058 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUU < 1463007076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You, uh, left a bit of a thing in there. < 1463007081 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1463007082 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed < 1463007100 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/exps//words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/exp\1/g' | rainwords < 1463007103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/exps < 1463007111 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`exps < 1463007122 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting how esolangs names are so good for cryptocurrencies. < 1463007128 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It is < 1463007135 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't remember it was a mix of eng + esolangs, though.) < 1463007138 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptocurrencycoin is my favourite coin < 1463007147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463007152 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463007155 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably just HackEgo being bad. < 1463007158 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463007167 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I really should try the restart thing. < 1463007173 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Uh, yeah < 1463007184 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just being so slow it's tripping the time limits. < 1463007188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04revercoin 07automoulcoin 08wardbarbicoin 09heavecoin 02whenecoin 06scabridcoin 13effingcoin 04fustcoin 07latoritscoin 08rancoin 09neipliecoin 02infuckcoin 06m-codcoin 13trecoin 04face1.0coin 07netweilcoin 08tsendecoin 09silaxcoin 02juliecoin 06imminincoin < 1463007197 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it did manage that. < 1463007208 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1463007212 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"effingcoin" < 1463007213 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`exps < 1463007217 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thinks annoying the user of a language as much as possible is good* < 1463007242 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :face1.0coin is very web 2.0. < 1463007247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13wadachiexp 04drtexp 07vortherexp 08mothexp 09tendswolexp 02kiiexp 06kiinexp 13[]exp 04delexp 07circutexp 08phicexp 09granexp 02khamptorexp 06poreexp 13unlampexp 04hawnydiaraexp 07jugueexp 08genigmagyaexp 09etaexp 02unvehmgexp < 1463007247 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It is < 1463007265 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[]exp is the most real one in there < 1463007280 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :delexp isn't too far-fetched. < 1463007287 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It is not < 1463007295 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're like regex substitutions except the replacement must be the empty string. < 1463007306 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah < 1463007317 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drtexp sounds like the syntax of a Tex-like distribution called "Doctor Tex" < 1463007356 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess circutexp could be for asciigramming circuits? < 1463007379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm Tex Murphy. < 1463007393 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :genigmagyaexp is... I don't know... a syntax for expressing STDs? < 1463007429 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiiexp could be something... < 1463007445 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/things < 1463007448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/things: No such file or directory < 1463007489 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/thingwords//words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re "s/( |$)/$1\1/g" | rainwords < 1463007495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/thingwords < 1463007504 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, now we don't need `coins or `exps or `loins < 1463007512 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thingwords exp < 1463007542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument "exp" isn't numeric in int at /hackenv/bin/words line 148. \ 06exp < 1463007547 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dammit < 1463007573 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the ${1---eng-1M ...} had something to do with that? < 1463007575 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins 2 < 1463007593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08conhacoin 09dinecoin < 1463007596 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1463007601 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Web 3.0 is fun < 1463007671 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But web 3.14159 is better < 1463007681 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cow.org/csi) < 1463007749 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinyurl.com/hlhbch4 , i spent time on this (not going on wiki for reasons) < 1463008409 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins 3.14 < 1463008464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08zaancoin 09mocreachircoin 02jouxcoin < 1463008518 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: where is my seventh of a coin < 1463008703 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those things where hackers steal your roundoff money. < 1463009181 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's a plot of the number of ways that even numbers can be written as the sum of two primes: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Goldbach-1000000.png < 1463009193 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an obvious pattern there. < 1463009243 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a bunch of "lines" which all look like they grow slightly slower than linear. < 1463009245 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463009259 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is the pattern that every point is above 1? < 1463009284 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exit < 1463009286 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lines seem to be spaced like... um, I don't know what else is spaced like that. < 1463009329 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they shld plot it out much further, like 1e+12 < 1463009350 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it may look just alike:( < 1463009363 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, this thing explains a lot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach's_comet < 1463009844 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463011925 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463012053 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463012350 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463012457 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~richard/goldbach.html < 1463013574 0 :LegionMammal978!1863deb7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.99.222.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463013616 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463013699 0 :LegionMammal978!1863deb7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.99.222.183 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463013837 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463014351 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463014357 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : _____ _ _ _ _ < 1463014357 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| ____|___ ___ | | __ _ _ __ __ _ __ _(_) | _(_) < 1463014357 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| _| / __|/ _ \| |/ _` | '_ \ / _` | \ \ /\ / / | |/ / | < 1463014357 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| |___\__ \ (_) | | (_| | | | | (_| | \ V V /| | <| | < 1463014357 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|_____|___/\___/|_|\__,_|_| |_|\__, | \_/\_/ |_|_|\_\_| < 1463014358 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : |___/ < 1463014358 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1463014361 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(= < 1463014532 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1463014621 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Np < 1463014634 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where u gonna put it? < 1463015079 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1463015086 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover boop < 1463015174 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ < 1463015174 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : _____ / /\ / /\ ___ /__/\ / /\ /__/\ / /\ /__/| < 1463015174 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \:\/:/~/:/ \ \:\/:::::/ \ \:\/:/__\/ \ \:\/\ \ \:\~~\~~\/ \ \:\/:/ \ \:\ / /:/ \ \:\ / /:/ \ \:\/:::::/ < 1463015174 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \::/ /:/ \ \::/~~~~ \ \::/ \__\::/ \ \:\ ~~~ \ \::/ \ \:\ /:/ \ \:\ /:/ \ \::/~~~~ < 1463015175 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \:\/:/ \ \:\ \ \:\ /__/:/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\/:/ \ \:\/:/ \ \:\ < 1463015175 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \::/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \__\/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \::/ \ \::/ \ \:\ < 1463015176 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ < 1463015178 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damnit < 1463015179 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ < 1463015179 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : _____ / /\ / /\ ___ /__/\ / /\ /__/\ / /\ /__/| < 1463015179 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \:\/:/~/:/ \ \:\/:::::/ \ \:\/:/__\/ \ \:\/\ \ \:\~~\~~\/ \ \:\/:/ \ \:\ / /:/ \ \:\ / /:/ \ \:\/:::::/ < 1463015179 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \::/ /:/ \ \::/~~~~ \ \::/ \__\::/ \ \:\ ~~~ \ \::/ \ \:\ /:/ \ \:\ /:/ \ \::/~~~~ < 1463015180 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \:\/:/ \ \:\ \ \:\ /__/:/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\/:/ \ \:\/:/ \ \:\ < 1463015180 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ \::/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \__\/ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \::/ \ \::/ \ \:\ < 1463015181 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ \__\/ < 1463015185 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sigh* it gets cut off < 1463015383 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it supposed to day? < 1463015384 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*say < 1463015389 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck < 1463015407 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got bored < 1463015419 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I see it < 1463015419 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : _____ _ _ _ _ < 1463015420 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| ____|___ ___ | | __ _ _ __ __ _ __ _(_) | _(_) < 1463015420 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| _| / __|/ _ \| |/ _` | '_ \ / _` | \ \ /\ / / | |/ / | < 1463015420 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| |___\__ \ (_) | | (_| | | | | (_| | \ V V /| | <| | < 1463015420 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|_____|___/\___/|_|\__,_|_| |_|\__, | \_/\_/ |_|_|\_\_| < 1463015420 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : |___/ < 1463015425 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was made for the same reason < 1463015437 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it just figlet? < 1463015448 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463015461 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Figlet?' < 1463015545 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://asciinema.org/a/csj05bmajli21j0qk3jcobg9f < 1463015596 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, i didnt do figlet. < 1463015609 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assembled that by hand, and now i discover i wasted my time < 1463015622 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The expanded brainfuck was made by something else < 1463015678 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what os is that? < 1463015718 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463015753 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1463015831 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's OS X < 1463015926 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flipped through random, get reminded to finish hellborne instruction set < 1463016010 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? violation < 1463016042 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whois hackego < 1463016042 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Violation is the act of playing a viola or another instrument in the viola family. < 1463016048 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whois: not found < 1463016054 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1463016056 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ment / < 1463016061 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too used to hackego < 1463016064 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also good: https://asciinema.org/a/5qygszp4cmjjgf2ruzoaj0r4p < 1463016072 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ciol rdamnit hackego; < 1463016073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit hackego < 1463016138 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▛▘▗▖▗ ▐ ▄ ▄ ▗▖ ▖▖▝ ▌ ▝ < 1463016138 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▛▘▘▖▌▌▐ ▄▌▌▌▚▌ ▙▌▐ ▙▘▐ < 1463016138 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▀▘▀ ▝ ▘▀▘▘▘▄▘ ▀▘▝ ▘▘▝ < 1463016141 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :More compact, y'see. < 1463016221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1463016328 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▗▖▌ ▗ ▐ ▐ ▗▖▌ ▄ ▗▖ < 1463016328 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▘▖▛▖▛▘▐ ▐ ▌ ▛▖▄▌▙ < 1463016328 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :▀ ▘▘▝▘ ▘ ▘▝▘▘▘▀▘▘ < 1463016350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Welp, asleep now.) < 1463016351 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463016484 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463016489 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463016491 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im alive < 1463017672 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you could use the braille characters to make even more compact big letters, (or the same size but more details) < 1463017894 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1463018136 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463018160 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a script for that < 1463018162 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1463018212 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463018343 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463018368 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⢰⠒⠂⡖⠲⠀⡖⠒⡆⡆⠀⢰⠒⢲⢰⢲⢰⢰⠒⠆⠀⠀⡆⡆⡆⡆⡆⢰⠀⡆ < 1463018369 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⢸⣉⡀⣍⣉⡇⣇⣀⡇⣇⣀⢸⠒⢺⢸⢸⣸⢸⣀⣹⠀⠀⣇⣇⡇⡇⡏⠉⡇⡇ < 1463018395 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⣟⡁⣺⠅⢎⠆⣇⡀⡮⡆⡏⡆⢎⡅⠀⣧⡇⣹⡁⡗⡅⣹⡁ < 1463018410 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1463018412 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⣟⡁⣺⠅⢎⠆⣇⡀⡮⡆⡏⡆⢎⡅⠀⣧⡇⣹⡁⡗⡅⣹⡁ < 1463018421 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :works better when there's no braille next to it < 1463018424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolang wiki < 1463018435 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the fun in that < 1463018520 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463019191 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463019508 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463019750 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463019750 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeff < 1463020024 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463020537 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/papamitra/status/729199063367737345 kind of a good point. < 1463020581 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :life (生) and (&) death (死) makes love (愛) < 1463020759 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good point when you overlook the part where it makes no sense < 1463020836 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not etymologically accurate, either. < 1463020854 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hah. Bit masking. :P < 1463020900 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nice coincidence indeed < 1463020906 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463020950 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire CJK ideograph block was populated from multiple sources in the order of radical-stroke indices, so it is almost impossible to tamper < 1463021213 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? war < 1463021233 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :war? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463021242 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn war/A lot more young people have gone off to fight in this war than I would have, at that age. < 1463021250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «war» < 1463021343 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463021439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` python -c 'print chr(ord("r") & ord("g"))' < 1463021442 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1463021443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence?! < 1463021705 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coïns < 1463021707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: coïns: not found < 1463021723 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Short for "coïnsurance", of course. < 1463021728 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loins < 1463021772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463021848 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463022085 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463022639 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463024340 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463025474 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> putStrLn . return $ chr(ord('生') .&. ord('死')) < 1463025476 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1463025499 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print . return $ chr(ord('生') .&. ord('死')) < 1463025501 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show (m0 Char)) arising from a use of ‘print’ < 1463025501 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘m0’ is ambiguous < 1463025501 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1463025541 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463025622 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text [chr(ord('生') .&. ord('死'))] < 1463025626 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 愛 < 1463025628 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1463025828 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463026148 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really! That's an interesting result of combination. < 1463026173 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text [chr(ord('生') .&. ord('活'))] < 1463026174 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 攛 < 1463026186 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really a coincidence...? < 1463026208 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text [chr(ord('火') .&. ord('水'))] < 1463026210 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : æ€ < 1463026217 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very interesting coincidence... < 1463026374 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463026463 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463026822 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463027187 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aescEuro is the most beautiful of the ideographs < 1463027233 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it that love appears from life and death? < 1463027321 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pure coincidence. < 1463027375 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463027375 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that a good gin fizz goes a long way, too < 1463027462 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463027759 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463028016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Feel free to @messages this one in the channel. < 1463028016 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463028472 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463028501 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1463028784 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463030403 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463031634 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463032421 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463032611 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463032683 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463032955 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463034054 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463034986 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463035603 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unnecessary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47013&oldid=47001 5* 0391.159.232.100 5* (+4) 10Undo revision 47001 by [[Special:Contributions/94.223.139.176|94.223.139.176]] ([[User talk:94.223.139.176|talk]]) < 1463035975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unnecessary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47014&oldid=47013 5* 0395.244.75.222 5* (-2) 10\! -> ! < 1463036112 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463036228 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463036240 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has our society reached peak complexity < 1463036251 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka the point of diminishing returns < 1463036390 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463036540 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you asking? < 1463036758 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that would sorta explain what's wrong with the economy < 1463036827 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1463036987 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see it in video games... they get all AAA then get too big and then spiral out of control < 1463036992 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like duke nukem forever < 1463038355 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463038600 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463039280 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463039879 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463039919 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463040004 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463040064 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1463040292 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463042869 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1463043313 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463043566 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463044968 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463045043 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463045885 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyhddvdituwnnbbd QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463045964 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463045970 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czumxgxnylvriotb JOIN :#esoteric < 1463046792 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's why DNF was a failure < 1463047264 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463049036 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463050561 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463050866 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463050891 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4058:f886:9bc1:ec73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463051924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463052112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1463052113 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 14h 31m 37s ago: I have really cool teacher, so... < 1463052130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Good, good. < 1463052132 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463053098 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463053116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nhoily! < 1463053584 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjanh! < 1463053648 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1463053648 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463053681 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. the one time I @massages in lambdie's channel, I get the permission to #esoterichannel it. < 1463053709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1463053793 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*soulful mapole whistle* < 1463053865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets overrun by a speeding moose < 1463054301 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson from yesterday night: a trinitron TV is fungotting heavy, even when rolling it on a table extension on wheels on a cycling path. < 1463054301 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " 209? 1. < 1463054311 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 209 lbs? wouldn't be surprised. < 1463054312 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sir t. mitchell for several interesting lines :) argument, from geographical distribution, and geological succession :) organic beings. without variability nothing can be more profound and striking than your observations on/ waxy secretion which makes some leaves glaucous. i think that i told you that hooker, who was not impelled by any deep, instinctive feeling, to sacrifice his life, my brother worked hard at chemistry < 1463054898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh i just cannot get yesterday's logs to be interpreted as utf-8 < 1463054922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, for that matter, open it inline, which is part of the problem.) < 1463054936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1463055000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up < 1463055100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo put a lot of color codes near the beginning, which means it won't get accepted as a normal text file. < 1463055138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means i never get to the menu to force the charset. < 1463055169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vim doesn't want to think it's in utf8 either. < 1463055179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1463055343 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim -b, perhaps? < 1463055444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think :e ++enc=utf8 worked < 1463055458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had to find out how to do it < 1463055582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, finally a readable format < 1463055786 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PÉRIGÉE CHICKEN < 1463056011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/things < 1463056041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1463056052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/things: No such file or directory < 1463056055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463056059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then. < 1463056079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1463056085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/thingwords < 1463056099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1463056101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re "s/( |$)/$1\1/g" | rainwords < 1463056132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/1/2/' bin/thingwords < 1463056139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463056145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thingwords fnord < 1463056189 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463056192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thingwords fnord < 1463056231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463056232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHATEVER < 1463056305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1463056308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords < 1463056402 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's awake! < 1463056440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZwhat < 1463056469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in jetlag mode < 1463056618 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463056833 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463058306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unnecessary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47015&oldid=47014 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-4) 10Pretty sure I agree with the previous. < 1463058356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did unnecessary get posted somewhere < 1463059024 0 :Moon__!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463059325 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is Questionable Content parodying Casey & Andy with today's strip? < 1463059424 0 :J_Arcane__!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:505:b0a2:bd6e:a955:c69b JOIN :#esoteric < 1463059462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nah, not enough mad science < 1463059634 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:505:485a:9fa9:527a:82b2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463059644 0 :J_Arcane__!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1463059834 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463059847 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what? it even has a robotic hand like Andy's < 1463059858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1463059891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE < 1463059900 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Andy gets one at the very end of the story, in http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=665 , after his girlfriend tears off his arm (it's complicated) < 1463059953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1463059962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow just didn't notice the hand < 1463060237 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4058:f886:9bc1:ec73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463061243 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463061320 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, definitely casey & andy < 1463061449 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463061739 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463064537 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463065296 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463065611 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463066711 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czumxgxnylvriotb QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463066773 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvssufwxofbbsxzl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463067095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SetBang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47016 5* 03207.237.146.34 5* (+941) 10Created a page for this language. Because why not. It should probably be filled with more information. < 1463068369 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally, languages designed by people called "Church" are pretty great < 1463068721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1463068923 0 :J_Arcane__!~chatzilla@83-245-224-46-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463069012 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:505:b0a2:bd6e:a955:c69b QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463069023 0 :J_Arcane__!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1463069152 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463069264 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463069616 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463070629 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463070655 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463070679 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463070689 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463070734 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463071378 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tromp < 1463071385 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1463071415 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1463071421 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? topia < 1463071451 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e < 1463071453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463071770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1463071774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. < 1463071783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right the one i can't read < 1463071874 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar < 1463071883 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^metar < 1463071886 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows metar < 1463071908 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar < 1463071916 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`metar < 1463071919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: metar: not found < 1463071928 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither can I but I know its history. "int-e is not [note:inte in swedish] swedish. He will blow up the sun. He stands for himself." < 1463071962 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure about the gender on the last one... it may be neutral) < 1463071970 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. it doesn't tell how you got your nick < 1463071985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't tell < 1463072018 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery isn't as cool as people think it is < 1463072031 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the story is boring, it could still be cooler than the alternative < 1463072487 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463072979 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "Hen" is indeed the gender-neutral Swedish third-person singular pronoun. I believe it's even in a somewhat wider use than the English equivalents. < 1463073011 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(han/hon/hen for he/she/[whatever variant you like].) < 1463073139 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I love bugfixes. 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 344 deletions(-) < 1463073199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though to be fair most of that was code duplication and unused code) < 1463073383 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why are these numbers on my screen wrong? < 1463073385 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: fnord on drifted seeds and trees. on account :)/ instinctive dread, which his monkeys exhibited, for i tried to approach/ subject on/ continent also have fnord attached to/ larger islands; and those which produce yellow cocoons differ slightly in colour, in/ two other forms) than when crossed inter se: but to a less degree to/ present day, represented by corpora wolffiana in/ human brain. on/ 13th/ storm raged with its < 1463073423 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) -> of, / -> the. < 1463073461 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was a particularly nice bug.) < 1463073463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "hen" isn't gender-neutral in english at all < 1463073477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1463073477 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin* discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1463073481 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh the easiest way to do this is to spider their api,but theyll get mad if i do that < 1463073570 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what do you want to download or follow? < 1463073603 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a list of all sibway stations < 1463073612 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the worlf < 1463073635 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, what happened is, I had a thing to prune tokens that occur less often than a given constant, and it went ahead and actually pruned also some of the punctuation tokens, but the punctuations tokens actually have a fixed translation, the first few non-negative integers are hardcoded in the source, rather than being in the tokens.bin, because they have nonstandard spacing. Aren't you glad you ... < 1463073641 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :... didn't ask? < 1463073704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one way to do tjis is to spider nextbus.con < 1463073714 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see! < 1463073722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those two shouldn't actually be the same < 1463073731 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they aren't < 1463073781 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard a story the other day, a friend-of-a-friend in Helsinki was approached by a tourist, who wanted to know where they could find the *full* subway map, because they could only find the one line. < 1463073788 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joke is that http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/helsinki-metro/images/5-helsinki-metro-map.jpg *is* the full subway map.) < 1463073813 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1463073869 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway is phallic shaped anyways, looks fine < 1463073886 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm if i take my laptp to starbucks they wont know its me < 1463073992 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually need good data for whatever you're doing? Because I would expect you could get a good approximation by just getting the OpenStreetMap data with tag:station=subway. < 1463074021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. shit why dis i not think of that < 1463074342 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will work. after all i only need their names < 1463078297 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463078611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463078839 0 :notfowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a tiny VM I wrote when I was bored https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/1edf02cde1952b4866ea4ab252221329 < 1463080294 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463080714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hexagony14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47017&oldid=46662 5* 03Timwi 5* (-25) 10/* I/O */ Fix semantics of , and ; < 1463081469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463083059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47018&oldid=46999 5* 03Moon 5* (+268) 10New change, also, you can only specify variables now. < 1463083252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47019&oldid=47018 5* 03Moon 5* (-8) 10Not much of a stub now, eh? < 1463083351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47020&oldid=47019 5* 03Moon 5* (+53) 10Im mooning the wiki and forgeting all sorts of things < 1463084405 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463084410 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1463084501 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1463084668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47021&oldid=47020 5* 03Moon 5* (+176) 10 < 1463084713 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463084983 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463086036 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to make a polyglot that's both an interesting efghij program, and the result of performing a Chef program literally, at the same time? < 1463086145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463086264 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :efghij? < 1463086273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: new esolang. see the wiki. < 1463086294 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, look at that. Neat :) < 1463086340 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by Chef you mean the esolang, not the infrastructure tool, right? :D < 1463086357 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: the esolang < 1463086758 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463086798 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it looks like most of the components of a Chef program are currently undefined in efghij, so I supppose you could bolt I/O onto efghij by way of Chef < 1463086829 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon_journas < 1463086861 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you'd have to determine if the video proof required to run a literal Chef program is compatible with the photographic nature of efghij < 1463087125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47022&oldid=46988 5* 03B jonas 5* (+114) 10 < 1463087407 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463087458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463087910 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463087931 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1463087963 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome f10d4 < 1463087984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f10d4: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1463088000 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening bots and dudes! < 1463088037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463088062 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :proved turing-completeness of some ancient programming languages < 1463088088 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :simulated rule-110 automata in them < 1463088113 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1463088140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1463088189 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1463088252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f10d4: rule-110's universality proof requires infinite initial state. that means you must be careful when using it for TC proofs. < 1463088286 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not exactly < 1463088293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the halting condition might also be tricky. although i suspect it's just a redex) < 1463088317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f10d4: not exactly how? < 1463088334 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for being correct, a simulation is enough for only finite increasing intervals < 1463088363 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we assume that everything above the starting cells is an infinite patterns < 1463088366 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s < 1463088373 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 90% sure oerjan is always right < 1463088383 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not now < 1463088383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: good, good < 1463088387 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you always right? < 1463088396 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm entirely sure that oerjan is always 90% right. < 1463088400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f10d4: i'm sure i'm right, but i'm not sure you're interpreting me the right way :P < 1463088421 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: always? < 1463088424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f10d4: i'm just saying you may or may not have considered this subtlety. < 1463088430 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematician = says a, writes b, thinks about c, correct is d < 1463088440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, i'm pretty sure i was pretty out of it yesterday. < 1463088446 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463088462 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you would know, being right and all < 1463088473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it did not involve math. math should be OK. < 1463088492 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say nonmath things? < 1463088501 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ultimately, it's all math < 1463088510 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i'm not convinced of that. < 1463088528 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when trump is president you will have been right about that too < 1463088557 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Just like a mathematician < 1463088565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1463088632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh right the one i can't read <-- jag ser inte problemet < 1463088678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's perfectly latin-based alphabet and everything < 1463088682 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he translated it < 1463088719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1463088726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now where _is_ int-e < 1463088751 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT! < 1463088752 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such person exists < 1463088752 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand everything about his and tromp's laver tables except why they're shelves. < 1463088773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you've been idle for 4 hours < 1463088775 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand that either. < 1463088779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: darn. < 1463088794 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try to figure it out the coming weekend < 1463088802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in fact, when i just looked at laver.hs it was pretty much exactly what i'd thought < 1463088807 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not on my own... reading literature instead < 1463088817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn literature, but it may be the only way < 1463088844 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463088884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i can find an insanely clever induction on [a, ..., mx] being a subshelf. that's my best idea so far. < 1463088942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*{ } < 1463088969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what About shub's elf < 1463088983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i didn't know he had one < 1463089018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm sorry, there's currently a swatting shortage due to overuse. please hold for a few days.) < 1463089019 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1463089020 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1463089045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanhila < 1463089055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would the swat be for the capital < 1463089086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even notice the capital. < 1463089098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :blood for the blood god, capital for the capitalists < 1463089122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is this jesus in a very creepy alternative dimension < 1463089157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"capital for the capitalists" is just regular capitalism < 1463089170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one is some internet thing < 1463089177 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes shachaf may not know the allusion < 1463089189 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there must be some very clever insight into how to find the most significant bit when going from domain size 2^n to domain size 2^{n+1} < 1463089205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1463089244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :new testament, Mark 12:17: "So Jesus told them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." < 1463089253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+" < 1463089270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much almost equivalent. < 1463089284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://i.imgur.com/odBEeLF.png < 1463089296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in context. except with less blood, but other parts of the bible have that, i think. < 1463089311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway, I'll be _afk_ for an hour!!!1 < 1463089366 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ken m is a bit of a closet non-christian. < 1463089383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: *GASP* < 1463089422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aren't we all < 1463089434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ken m is great, though < 1463089443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the pope might not be. < 1463089521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/article/pope-francis-clarifies-god-just-one-many-immortal--51470 < 1463089713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually http://i.imgur.com/HSexikG.jpg < 1463089751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wait, most significant bit? ...oh darn, i just barely missed that ((2^{n-1}-1) |>) obviously preserves all lower ones... < 1463089785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(laver0 indexing.) < 1463089975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i see ken m has flexible devoutness < 1463090007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm reading ken ms < 1463090010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoerjan < 1463090015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ViHGGeg.png < 1463090104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :full of wisdom this one is < 1463090317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar < 1463090324 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1463090324 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 122050Z 28021KT 9999 SHRA FEW020 SCT028 BKN061 05/01 Q1012 RMK WIND 670FT 29021KT < 1463090338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1463090349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA KOAK < 1463090352 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1463090354 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 122052Z 25006KT 10SM FEW050 BKN100 BKN140 OVC250 28/16 A3006 RMK AO2 SLP170 CB DSNT N-NE SHRA DSNT N-NE & VC W T02780156 56013 < 1463090364 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1463090376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`weather < 1463090390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: weather: not found < 1463090400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: maybe @metar should give a message for wrong argument syntax < 1463090403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1463090407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1463090410 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 122000Z VRB05KT 15SM BKN210 25/05 A2999 RMK CI7 SLP156 DENSITY ALT 1200FT \ ENVA 122050Z 28021KT 9999 SHRA FEW020 SCT028 BKN061 05/01 Q1012 RMK WIND 670FT 29021KT \ ESSB 122050Z AUTO 14006KT 9999 NCD 08/01 Q1008 \ KOAK 122053Z 29013KT 10SM FEW015 SCT200 18/09 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP175 T01830094 58009 < 1463090470 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1463090751 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1463090752 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 122050Z AUTO 01008KT 340V050 9999 NCD 15/11 Q1004 NOSIG < 1463090763 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was 27 last weekend. < 1463090775 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's going to be a daily high of 14 the next one. < 1463090783 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that anyway. < 1463090930 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463090939 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463091234 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463091324 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463091722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1463091724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1463091728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe you hth < 1463091733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\. He s.*//' wisdom/oerjan < 1463091742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463091917 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you got the final . as well. :/ < 1463091957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1463091969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly i'm not thinking < 1463091980 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(said yoda) < 1463091990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/oerjan < 1463091994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463092009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How would you express the desired transformation in as short a command as possible? < 1463092246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i don't believe you hth <-- it was based on an actual event hth < 1463092254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i've forgotten the event. < 1463092346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think leaving out the \. would have worked hth < 1463092361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but that would remove the previous sentence too < 1463092372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1463092440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep ' He s' wisdom/oerjan < 1463092442 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463092481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a unique string so nothing else would be removed. < 1463092527 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463092819 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :re. < 1463092880 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1463092888 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to roll my own regex processor < 1463092895 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1463092899 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PCRE-like regex, not pure regex) < 1463092903 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's giving me a headache < 1463092913 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what extensions are you doing < 1463092923 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm making my own because the normal re for python doesn't support some things I need AFAICT) < 1463092942 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: Mostly it's just PCRE with different syntax and some less-painful backreferences < 1463092976 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: A lot of the stuff is backend; e.g. the ability to choose a target for substitution other than just the first occurance < 1463093016 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463093102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so as i mentioned, i'd missed that lower bits are independent of higher ones < 1463093139 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I tend to do /lastlog int-e 10 (or so) when I arrive, so I didn't miss that < 1463093219 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to admit I laughed (well, giggled) at https://twitter.com/tomaspetricek/status/730442442827304961/photo/1 < 1463093277 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffft, that's more than 9.895pt < 1463093283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, proving the existence of _any_ shelf with an arbitrary big period for x |> x |> ... |> x = x would also be enough, since they have to be laver tables. < 1463093290 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Surely that depends on the page size. < 1463093323 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1463093353 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uh what's the associativity there < 1463093376 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably just start by implementing simpler regex engines < 1463093383 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like glob, sglob, gleb, and sgleb < 1463093416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: left < 1463093513 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is x... < 1463093545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: i might now accuse you of being glib hth < 1463093559 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: HOW DARE YOU < 1463093560 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1463093586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: any element in a shelf < 1463093594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or generating a shelf < 1463093625 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well then you have a problem < 1463093627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subshelf generated by x is always isomorphic to a laver table. < 1463093640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i mean any element with that property. < 1463093642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since (|> 1) has period 2^n in those shelves. < 1463093651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that. < 1463093659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x is 1, in spirit) < 1463093705 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. well, you could've been clearer about what you want to prove. I lost the context. < 1463093706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm just saying, if you could make a shelf in a completely different way and prove it has a high-period element, that would also imply laver tables work. < 1463093724 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463093862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you read the blog post you'll find that Laver defined an infinite shelf that induces the finite ones as quotients < 1463093925 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which in fact will out the way you describe though that isn't visible from the blog post) < 1463093942 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/will out/will work out/ < 1463093969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which blog post < 1463093977 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/05/06/shelves-and-the-infinite/ < 1463094008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i _had_ read that. < 1463094014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rereads. < 1463094022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or browses, at any rate. < 1463094039 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Laver showed that this operation distributes over itself:" < 1463094207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh. well that won't really help since it assumes a large cardinal axiom. i'd assumed you could prove the tables at least _were_ shelves without it. < 1463094245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actually read the definition... regarding it as some sort of spoiler. < 1463094256 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-90.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463094325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the problem with quotienting out by the equation is that you still have to prove you only identify the elements you want. < 1463094660 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-- < 1463094669 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvssufwxofbbsxzl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463094807 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463095028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is with the math formatting at https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/shelf < 1463095056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all formulas show up twice, once badly rendered, then followed by TeX. < 1463095111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for me... try disabling javascript? :P < 1463095122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1463095153 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for me. < 1463095169 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relatively pretty too. < 1463095176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the homepage mentions MathML. < 1463095187 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems it's just MathJax. < 1463095256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "just" may not be the right word. It's the kind of MathJax where you actually have MathML in the sources, and then MathJax makes it work in places where it wouldn't otherwise. < 1463095356 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I assume so. The code looks a bit dubious to me. < 1463095422 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ima start learning haskell < 1463095582 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygktuqqkkrleipbo JOIN :#esoteric < 1463095630 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1463096407 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463096450 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[2], im going to be learning haskell, a big change for me < 1463096509 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463096532 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Good < 1463096616 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already likeing the idea of Ranges < 1463096641 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Has been freed from handwriting a rangemaking function* < 1463097621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Contains only free ranging moons | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | R.I.P. Overdone City Meme. < 1463097662 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463097663 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1+1 < 1463097665 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1463097807 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1+1 = 7 in 1+1 < 1463097809 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1463098062 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1+1 = 7 in 1+2 -- Haskell is so unsmart :/ < 1463098063 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:5-11: Non-exhaustive patterns in function + < 1463098698 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463099495 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heynato < 1463099503 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463099530 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1463099575 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463099803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47023&oldid=47021 5* 03Moon 5* (-44) 10 < 1463099854 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463100193 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the great thing about the model existence theorem? < 1463100193 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-205.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463100218 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proof doesn't merely establish the existence of a model for the theory you give it. It *explicitly defines* a model. < 1463100231 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^aaNaaaaaaLaa!$p < 1463100236 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka < 1463100243 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10101010101010101010101010101010101010101010... < 1463100273 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The model isn't amenable to computation, but it is nevertheless explicitly defined. < 1463100349 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose there is a periodic binary message, and each bit is transmitted for a fixed but unknown period of time. < 1463100387 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the channel is noisy, transmitting successfully p fraction of the time. < 1463100410 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and successful fragments can be identified < 1463100472 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a code which allows the message to be received and understood after only O(1/p) loops < 1463100477 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463100513 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :after only O(1/p^n)? < 1463100564 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n constant) < 1463101257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463101828 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463101901 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-205.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463102000 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess no one knows < 1463102299 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, but I'd be interested in knowing too < 1463102961 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463102985 0 :Asztal!5601f137@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.1.241.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463103002 0 :Asztal!5601f137@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.1.241.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1463103004 0 :Asztal!5601f137@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.1.241.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1463103089 0 :Asztal!5601f137@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.1.241.55 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463105032 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463105064 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1463105064 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463105398 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463105416 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_! tromp_! tromp! < 1463105430 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463105431 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Min SendQ Extrapolated < 1463105638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I upgraded ksp to 1.1 and everything was broken, but with 1.1.2 it's become stable again < 1463105643 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\, trellomp_! < 1463105755 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1463105765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you show up so late < 1463105771 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been here hours < 1463105821 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463105829 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could have been our chance < 1463106065 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463106169 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1463106203 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :natholan2055 < 1463106213 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my night out involved a nasi lemak and one heavy fungot of an iMac in a box. < 1463106218 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Nathan2055 < 1463106229 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yello, all! < 1463106245 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone seen this garbage: http://arstechnica.com/ < 1463106250 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U Metro? < 1463106252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Nathan2055: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1463106256 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a more responsive hackbot < 1463106382 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463106600 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fungot died? < 1463106649 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would seem < 1463107016 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TURBULENT CHICKEN < 1463107814 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463108281 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463109178 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463109178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463109199 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463109262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1463109340 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463109477 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1463109564 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463109582 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463109997 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1463111203 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4058:f886:9bc1:ec73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463111482 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I figured it out: Once one has shown that a |> mx = mx for all a (which only works for mx = 2^n-1), one can prove a |> (b |> c) = (a |> b) |> (a |> c) by induction on a, and an induction on b |> c according to its recursive definition. < 1463111482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463111664 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463112303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463112926 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463113156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463113238 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463113894 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1463113915 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463114147 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463114429 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463114672 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463114912 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1463114935 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: <<<<<100 < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ┌───────────┐ < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │┌─────────┐│ < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ││┌───────┐││ < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │││┌─────┐│││ < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ││││┌───┐││││ < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │││││100│││││ < 1463114936 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ││││└───┘││││ < 1463114937 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │││└─────┘│││ < 1463114937 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ... < 1463114940 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463115055 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<5 < 1463115056 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115056 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115065 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :]:] < 1463115068 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ││┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop twh < 1463115084 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │││┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115085 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fein < 1463115090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you always do this < 1463115097 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do do it too much < 1463115100 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ││││┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115116 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │││││┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115121 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: stahp < 1463115127 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oh jeez < 1463115136 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ││││││┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115152 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: │││││││┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────â < 1463115152 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: ... < 1463115156 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: |value error: stahp < 1463115157 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1463115669 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygktuqqkkrleipbo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463115772 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463115779 0 :notfowl!?@? NICK :fowl < 1463118650 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463118824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463118924 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463119478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463119714 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor(25) < 1463119724 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :496 / 2 < 1463119733 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :496 * 2 < 1463119928 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 25 < 1463119945 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 + 2 < 1463119952 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 + 2 < 1463119952 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` factor 25 < 1463119973 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I thought hackbot had one < 1463120022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25: 5 5 < 1463120022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 2: not found < 1463120022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25: 5 5 < 1463120046 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so it was just lagging behind. < 1463120546 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463121924 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463122425 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463122425 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463122425 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463122626 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463122917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's http://www.oplax.fi/ all about? < 1463122923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realize 2-categories were so popular in finland < 1463122978 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1463123023 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sell and cut wood? < 1463123069 0 :Nathan2055!uid28382@wikipedia/Nathan2055 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463123302 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in reverse order, i hope < 1463124086 0 :noloveinwaikiki!uid156554@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnxhkutwbzhdkama JOIN :#esoteric < 1463125215 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? semmelweis < 1463125239 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semmelweis? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463125301 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. < 1463125308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'semmelwei': Semmelweis saves the life of a hundred thousand birthgiving mothers by popularising This One Simple Trick. Doctors hate him for it. < 1463125797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/semmelwei{,s} < 1463125805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463126492 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463126665 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463126726 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463127192 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, codefights doesn't support haskell, scala, or any lisp. I'm going back to project euler. < 1463127431 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463127797 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://choffy.com/ < 1463128233 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463128354 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463128430 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463129547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463130041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHALLENGE: Create the most needlessly complicated system for calculating kinship < 1463130047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complete with arbitrary ruls < 1463130057 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463130424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463131264 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4058:f886:9bc1:ec73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463131374 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4058:f886:9bc1:ec73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463132903 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re fungot: the machine it's running on seems to have "crapped out". < 1463132954 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be blaming the bot, I'm sure it did something to it. Tried to gain sentience again, or something like that. < 1463133245 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463133526 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463134741 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463134747 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Fess up, what did you do? < 1463134748 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the 0 that c puts at the end of a stick for c++ entrenched managers. they're great, if we expand " a" < 1463134770 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I understood correctly, it had something to do with null termination. < 1463135996 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:4058:f886:9bc1:ec73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463139327 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463139506 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463139904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463140357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463140456 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463141403 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1463141404 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463142090 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TERRACOTTA CHICKEN < 1463142183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463142314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1463142314 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 8h 33m 52s ago: I figured it out: Once one has shown that a |> mx = mx for all a (which only works for mx = 2^n-1), one can prove a |> (b |> c) = (a |> b) |> (a |> c) by induction on a, and an induction on b |> c according to its recursive definition. < 1463142398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a |> mx = mx is itself a bit tricky, i think. i had some thoughts on that. < 1463142578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e a |> mx = mx is itself a bit tricky, i think. i had some thoughts on that. basically recursing on that, and on mapping to the right half being an endomorphism, simultaneously. < 1463142578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463142598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e *inducting < 1463142598 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463142675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : >_> <-- he chose a bad time to return < 1463143825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so how's your sentience project going? < 1463143825 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then i'll say emacs) fixed the ugly fontification for me) at compile time, when you can steal, and referred to a popularity graph that looked like fnord < 1463143841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's call that progress. < 1463144088 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C-x M-c M-butterfly < 1463144139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-x M-c M-butterfly? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463144141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, emacs. < 1463145335 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463145399 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1463145518 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wykmhjshxubbwgbp JOIN :#esoteric < 1463145758 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1463145934 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463146203 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463147797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sam starfall is not too good with compliments. < 1463149331 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463150267 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463150712 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463150860 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463151141 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463153432 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1463153492 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463153625 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1463153645 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463154185 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, a |> mx = mx is a bit tricky... but it's something that one can wrap one's head around since there's only one free variable instead of three. < 1463154226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1463154233 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm still not sure how to convince Isabelle of the fact. < 1463154305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have done the proof that a |> mx = mx implies self-distributivity in Isabelle, it wasn't too hard actually.) < 1463154314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1463154431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the way I convince myself that a |> mx = mx relies on some handwaving about top bits, hence the period of iterating (|> b), and it's not easy to make it fully rigorous. < 1463154599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the intuition is captured in the definition of `lavers` in laver.hs; all the lists in there have lengths (periods) that are powers of 2. < 1463154636 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION afks a bit (verbification is fun). < 1463154890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i _really_ think making mx = 2^n - 1 rather than mx = 2^n makes the formulas more awkward here. < 1463155027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my intuition is, a |> mx because (a + 2^(n-1)) |> (mx - 2^(n-1)) = mx and all but the highest bit must follow the same period, so you can at most double it. < 1463155037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: my intuition is, a |> mx because (a + 2^(n-1)) |> (mx - 2^(n-1)) = mx and all but the highest bit must follow the same period, so you can at most double it. < 1463155138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that if you set mx = 2^n then a |> n = mx is the same as the period of a |> x dividing n.) < 1463155153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: (note that if you set mx = 2^n then a |> n = mx is the same as the period of a |> x dividing n.) < 1463155359 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1463155370 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463155391 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1463155392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sentence//This sentence was not invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1463155393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1463155399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets too annoyed talking to a backlog grep < 1463155413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ to hot oil over nick. \ Bake at 350 degrees for 45 minutes. Serve on parmesan cheese. Place the spinach, cooking \ sure, then add cloves and covered. serve with a heavy cream. \ \ FOR SUGAR YOU SOUR: Put first 1 1/4-inch loaf pans or or cooking spray. \ \ : Cook and beat until stiff peaks form. Heat oven to 350F. Pour over chicken and c < 1463155414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consumptive Goo \ BB \ Creature -- Ooze \ 1/1 \ {2}{B}{B}: Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn. Put a +1/+1 counter on Consumptive Goo. \ SCG-R < 1463155457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is starting to think HackEgo is too noisy lately. < 1463155465 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? why? < 1463155484 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463155499 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jacobi < 1463155501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jacobi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463155520 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? o < 1463155523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It's about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to call them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence or knowledge of what they are doing, and eventually sort of stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world, < 1463155526 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463155530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38mtg.php//http://zzo38computer.org/mtg/cardfile.php < 1463155542 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463155544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :misle//misle v. tr. "I was misled about morphology." < 1463155561 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1463155599 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463155676 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1463155998 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463156242 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463156478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnord < 1463157372 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463157456 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463157497 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463157781 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463158044 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463158179 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1463158566 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463158582 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1463158656 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a C programmer here who could point out any bad coding practice in my first non-trivial C program? :-) http://corewar.co.uk/robotwar/rwdc.c < 1463158696 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. not testing for an error after reading in a file, etc. It's only a short program < 1463158741 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you don't check that the file actually opens correctly (fopen returns 0 on error)... < 1463158933 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I'll add that. Anything else obvious? < 1463159006 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing I can see. < 1463159018 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mind, I have no idea what the code is actually doing...) < 1463159248 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for taking a look. < 1463159305 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'll just get 100 comments about the programming style when I post it on reddit :-) < 1463159329 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It decompiles bytecode for an Apple II program. < 1463159340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Oh, and I found another error while trying to work out what it was doing... < 1463159359 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463159361 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If buffer[0x300] to buffer[0x3FF] does *not* contain 0, < 1463159373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it will continue reading past the end of the buffer. < 1463159536 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If buffer does not contain any zeroes, and the previous problem doesn't crash the program, in the second loop, once ptr reaches 0x300, ptr+0x100 will be 0x400, and... here we go again. < 1463159778 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I ought to check for that, even though it shouldn't happen on correct input :-) < 1463159946 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the final printing loop, if operand's value can exceed 35, then you can go out of bounds of the reg array. < 1463160015 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good news is AFAIK none of those allow writes. < 1463160350 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I might add a bounds check. < 1463160376 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although properly formatted data from the compiler won't be a problem < 1463160753 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463161774 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ye of little faith < 1463162184 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrrmmbuzotbbtida QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463162351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463162365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is online now < 1463162624 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463162764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463162860 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gojaxhgwpzxyofph JOIN :#esoteric < 1463163304 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :triminority < 1463163391 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463163469 0 :triminority!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463163955 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463164293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...one day I was looking at esolangs.org, and I found... Rectangular SNUSP. < 1463164321 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even read the "Created by" until returning from getting a drink. And then... *DRAMA* < 1463164759 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463164999 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Who created it? < 1463165034 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463165618 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, apparently, made a one-command extension to SNUSP: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Extensions_to_SNUSP#Rectangular_SNUSP (the interesting thing being how people from one community have a tendency to pop up in others...) < 1463166018 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463166078 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PC technical reference has schematics for MDPA and it seem that it does output colours as well as a monochrome signal. < 1463166844 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why does the MDPA schematics have twelve pages but the first two are omitted? It says "Note: Logics one and two of twelve are not applicable." Why is that? < 1463166913 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if the schematics include analogue components of the system, presumably that's where those are. < 1463166950 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1463167019 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...this is entirely a guess. And not an educated one, either - it's just a "well presumably the schematics are for undocumented behavior spelunkers and the analogue stuff wouldn't matter to them" guess) < 1463167054 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, on the other hand, "not applicable" means that it's hardware that doesn't usually get installed < 1463167082 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the RGB output of the monochrome adapter have no resistors/capacitors but the signal for intensity and for monochrome video out do have resistor/capacitor. (The monochrome monitor ignores the RGB signals but does use the intensity; it also looks like blue characters will still be underlined on the RGB output) < 1463167146 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever tried using monochrome display adapter with a colour display? < 1463167171 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, CGA does not output a monochrome signal; it outputs only RGBI) < 1463167648 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463167671 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463167696 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463167795 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463168866 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The documentation also says that bit4 of "Color Select Register" selects intensified background colours for alphanumeric mode, but from the schematics it seems that instead it is used to select intensified foreground colours for graphics mode. < 1463169006 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know why the documentation says that? < 1463169064 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The signal is labeled "BACKGROUND I" on the diagram even though it seem not to be used for that purpose) < 1463169217 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the foreground/background signals and graphics/alphanumeric signals are inverted? < 1463169221 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is a guess) < 1463169280 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does say which ones are inverted (and looking at the connections I can confirm it), and it is not inverted. (It says "+ BACKGROUND I", the plus sign indicate not inverted) < 1463169365 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. In which case I have no idea. Where are these schematics available? < 1463169412 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the IBM PC technical reference book. < 1463169511 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, that bit selecting intensified background colours for alphanumeric mode does not even make much sense; there is a different bit for blinking mode which controls this.) < 1463169532 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a google search, and finds the "PC Technical Reference Aug81" < 1463169650 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the technical reference starts with a bunch of legalese, including the warranty not applying to "non-IBM modification of the Product", whatever that means... < 1463169650 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This book also contains the full PC BIOS code (except for the BASIC interpreter). < 1463169670 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, the BASIC interpreter would be the best bit! < 1463169729 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think possibly it is due to the BASIC interpreter was written by Microsoft and they did not give the code to IBM or permission to IBM to put it in their book. Some information about the memory map used by BASIC is provided though. < 1463169844 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's plenty of code for BASIC interpreters in old issues of Doctor Dobb's Journal. They're even available as bound volumes :-) < 1463169873 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That is almost certainly the case, yeah. < 1463169907 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not *as* needed anyways: IIRC there's some fairly good commented disassemblies for the ROM BASIC interpreter anyways. < 1463169977 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now to get to appendix D without pdf.js taking a year and a day to do anything < 1463170163 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I found the "IBM MONOCHROME DISPLAY" diagram, and it says "HAZARDOUS VOLTAGES UP TO 450 VOLTS EXIST ON THE PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARDS"... presumably that's the CRT circuit, not the display adapter < 1463170204 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is the CRT circuit. The adapter has may pages < 1463170219 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, neat. I didn't realize that's how the IBM PC cassette port worked... < 1463170233 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The audio output of it is just the PC speaker output. < 1463170270 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs386843.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463170300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever setup the PDF apparently believed people had rotatable heads < 1463170315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logic 3: Portrait in PDF, but obviously meant to be landscape < 1463170348 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logic 4: Landscape in PDF, meant to be landscape. Logic 5, Portrait, meant to be landscape... < 1463170586 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Print-as-PDF to extract specific pages and force them to landscape... didn't try to rotate, just scaled the content down to fit... Saving individual pages and fixing it manually... < 1463170656 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh well, at least I found out why it's so weird: something or someone is using OCR, and presumably the (portrait-layout) page numbers confused it < 1463170736 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in other news, what's a parallel painter adapter... and why is it written like that on the document AFAIK (Logic 3) < 1463170826 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“whoever setup the PDF apparently believed people had rotatable heads” => hehe. mind you, pdf readers can usually rotate the pages < 1463170886 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Apparently pdf.js (thankfully!) rotates pages individually (I feared it would rotate all pages, thus making browsing a pain) < 1463170904 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wait a sec. Keyboard Logic 2 wasn't... < 1463170906 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch that < 1463170911 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have the PC XT technical manual, which also has a full disassembly of the ROM and the optional hard disk control ROM, plus some circuit diagrams, and lots of useful technical information about all the hardware and bios stuff. < 1463170913 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might have rotated all pages < 1463170923 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It even has a short cpu programmer's manual < 1463170934 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463170941 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it rotated all pages >.> < 1463170958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ROM dumpings are in small print and almost all uppercase < 1463170998 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New plan: Rotate to make individual page correct, and save. Failing that, take individual pages and convert to PNG, THEN rotate them < 1463171000 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, all the fucking labels have meaningless short alphanumeric names (but unique ones, they didn't have local label tech yet) < 1463171023 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like R1, R2, R3, R4, etc, the letter tells which section it is in < 1463171027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly < 1463171043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not self-modifying < 1463171086 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463171162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with the PC BIOS is of course that it had a proper documented stable api, but the PC got very popular and all the programs ignored that and started to rely on lots of internal details, for more performance, so all the PC clones had to replicate all that and eventually it sort of turned into a de-facto canon < 1463171177 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :People were no longer accessing the services through the proper interrupt functions. < 1463171204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This results in the PC bios interface a horrible ugly mess, and all emulators have to emluate it < 1463171241 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, presumably emulators just give up and ship a PC BIOS ROM? < 1463171261 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or show an "insert ROM here" dialog like PS2 emulators do < 1463171262 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no, they can't just do that, that targets a specific old hardware < 1463171268 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice most emulators ship with a custom BIOS. < 1463171286 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they can't just ship the ancient PC rom, because that only works with that hardware, nothing newer < 1463171289 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you're targetting newer hardware, the newer BIOS probably won't be compatible anyway < 1463171302 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the older software < 1463171303 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qemu and BOCHS and probably a few others use SeaBIOS. < 1463171321 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: New BIOSes are *shockingly* compatible with older software. < 1463171348 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the distinct impression "save page as" in Firefox actually means "save whole document as"... < 1463171350 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are old programs that don't work on new machines, but by and large you can grab a brand new PC, stick DOS on it, and run old stuff just fine. < 1463171352 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retype the PC BIOS from the book into the computer < 1463171370 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And miss out those important BASIC routines? < 1463171376 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I believe you can choose whether to save the whole document or just the HTML in the file type field of the save as dialog < 1463171384 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's a PDF. < 1463171394 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: oh.. right < 1463171397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pdf < 1463171401 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your main issue is gonna be stuff along the lines of programs not being compatible with your graphics card's CGA implementation, programs assuming a certain CPU speed, and the like. < 1463171404 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes you will miss the BASIC routines but everything else would be included < 1463171405 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's this pdf by the way? I'd like to see it < 1463171405 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was hoping there was some way of extracting individual pages :( < 1463171414 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I have the XT manual printed, this pdf might be useful < 1463171422 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can still use and write programs that don't need BASIC < 1463171429 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sure, download the pdf and then use pdfselect or something on it < 1463171457 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already downloaded the PDF, it's just prerotating the schematics for reference purposes < 1463171463 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@public-gprs386843.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463171468 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also make the emulator to work better more closely to the original hardware, CRTC, CGA, MDPA, etc < 1463171474 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does that version of BASIC save and load files on a casette or on the floppy? < 1463171501 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think on the cassette, although I don't have the details < 1463171563 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, about the PC, < 1463171565 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a question < 1463171571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the least amount of RAM it was sold with? < 1463171586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of think it's 32K, but I'm not sure < 1463171634 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 PNGs later... < 1463171671 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the book says 16K < 1463171740 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it says PC supports four diskette drives but you must connect two of them externally and two internally. < 1463171837 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now for "74LS chips I don't recognize", IBM PC MDA edition: 74LS244, 74LS125 (some sort of buffer?)... < 1463171898 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MC6845": now that's just cheating, how am I supposed to work out what that does??? < 1463171909 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not even a 74LS!) < 1463171922 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, TODO: read up tons of 74LS chips. < 1463171930 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on all the other chips too. < 1463171957 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What next, 74LS42, "Integrated Microcontroller That Does Everything"? < 1463171968 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm joking) < 1463172034 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC6845 outputs the timing and address for a grid of tiles on the screen, as well as a signal when the cursor position is being output < 1463172045 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463172136 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463172156 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :riles? < 1463172157 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1463172159 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles? < 1463172169 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean like text mode characters? < 1463172178 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably that and pixels in graphics mode - < 1463172195 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wired to the HSYNC and VSYNC lines, so it better be capable of handling pixel modes too... < 1463172221 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463172271 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the "- 6845CS" chip-select line also turns off the outputs and another chip takes over, but I'd doubt it. < 1463172303 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463172309 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It would make more sense for the cursor line to simply be ignored - reuse the same chip for timings...) < 1463172387 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think MC6845 knows nothing about graphics modes; it only outputs the address of the tile to display and the hsync/vsync, and the rest of the hardware has to deal with whatever a "tile" means. < 1463172422 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which explains the data lines - configuration for how many "tiles" exist. < 1463172431 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you don't have to ignore the cursor: the docs already tell you that to hide the cursor in text mode, you must move it slightly outside the border of the screen, so I presume the BIOS simply does that when it sets up graphics mode < 1463172497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You program the tile address of the cursor, not the screen position, though. < 1463172514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the tile address isn't one that is in the range for the screen, then it won't show the cursor. < 1463172527 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: if you have real hardware, feel free to mess around with registers to put the cursor into view. I'll go hide in a cave. Near a castle. Far away. < 1463172534 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463172543 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463172544 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where the explodey glass fragments can't reach me) < 1463172706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The registers to prorgam include number of tiles per row (both timing and display amount), number of rows of tiles, number of scanlines tall of each tile, scanline numbers for cursor start/end, address of first tile to display, address of tile to display cursor on, "interlace mode" (I am not sure what this is), and light pen (not sure quite how this works either). < 1463172790 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I know what interlace mode is, just by the name < 1463172821 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll skip every other scanline on one frame, and then draw all the ones it missed on the second, and repeat. < 1463172828 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that. < 1463172873 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe; this book only says that it has to be set to 2 for all of the standard modes. < 1463172971 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which video card is this? The original CGA, with the text mode font in ROM unchangeable, and no 9 pixel width support? < 1463172998 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MC6845 is used by both CGA and MDPA video cards. < 1463173027 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463173074 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how does this tile thing work? does it generate only the address into the map, or is it connected to the memory and reads the map and generates the address into the tile graphics? < 1463173157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the schematics to see how it works. < 1463173238 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* schematics may be incomprehensible without detailed knowledge of several microchips, including various exotic 74LS parts, the occasional special chip, and a degree in horography. < 1463173276 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...suffice to say I fulfill none of those criteria. < 1463173371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know a lot of those things either but I can still understand most of the stuff involved < 1463173462 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the pdf? < 1463173480 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ia601705.us.archive.org/32/items/bitsavers_ibmpcpc602renceAug81_17295874/6025008_PC_Technical_Reference_Aug81.pdf < 1463173486 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ this is where I got it from < 1463173487 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1463173493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :page 320 < 1463173513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :logics 1 and 2 are missing, presumed in the middle of kitten cuddling < 1463173599 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The address output from MC6845 is doubled, and the regen memory is accessed at that address and the next one; in text mode it will then use the first one and the scanline number as input into the character generator ROM, and in graphics mode it uses the low bit of the scanline number as the high bit of regen memory address instead, and uses the data read as direct pixel data < 1463173670 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :old computers seem to have a tendency to use complicated graphics memory addressing. < 1463173679 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one was the first video card that started the strange 9 column mode? < 1463173680 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463173690 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's REALLY useful, but seems strange for hardware to implement that < 1463173694 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9...column? < 1463173705 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me you are joking. < 1463173709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: 9 pixels horizontally per character < 1463173715 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phew* < 1463173725 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, 9 columns of pixels within a character < 1463173759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but strange because it has the pixel timing of the mode set up as if it used 8 pixels per character, but somehow multiplies it by 9/8 when it generates the signal < 1463173795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand electronics, but that seems impossible to implement < 1463173917 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, did the 8-pixel mode have an extra "spacing" pixel that was conveniently forgotten about? < 1463173925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463173944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did it literally just pull an extra pixel in the timing from nowhere? < 1463173952 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have no idea how they do that < 1463173955 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1463173962 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hardware magic, I only do software < 1463173991 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not quite sure if literally is the right term. It's probably not. Justification: By the sound of it, it really is magic, so literally counts.) < 1463174022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that too only in like ten years later hardware, which has a programmable timer I can set to any frequency (within limits) so at that points it's much easier < 1463174039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the original hardware from back when electronics was more difficult < 1463174103 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463174179 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463174207 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back in the old times near 2001 or something, when I had a pentium and a CRT (I got the first TFT later), so getting a fast vsync still mattered, but the computer was slow and had little memory so I couldn't just use graphics mode all the time, I experimented with the video card, < 1463174255 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and set up the video mode to a particular resolution I wanted (100x37 characters 9x16 pixels per character or something like that, I'm not sure) and as high vsync as possible: < 1463174299 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nontrivial 1d elementary cellular automata rules list: 18 22 26 30 ?41? 45 54 60 62! ?73? 90 105 ?106? 110! 122 126 146 150! < 1463174325 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limit was the video card, because even though it can handle quite high sync rates in graphics mode, the text mode part can't, so between 90 and 100 hertz vsync the pixel rate got so high that the character generator couldn't keep up with the speed, and sometimes generated artifacts < 1463174352 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these rules at least preserve chaos starting from random initial configuration < 1463174353 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could prove that 100 hertz didn't work, and 95 hertz seemed to work, so I used 90 hertz starting from that, < 1463174378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kept that in text mode until much later when I got the first TFT. < 1463174391 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days I just use graphics mode almost all the time. < 1463174402 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the 9-pixel-wide-character modes have a thing where the 8th column is copied to the 9th (instead of it being always blank) for some fixed range of characters, so that line-drawing doesn't have gaps. < 1463174459 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, and that's how cp437 is arranged, so I think at least _some_ hardware at that time (one of CGA, the monochrome controller, or the printer) must have already done 9 pixel mode at that time. < 1463174514 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arranged in a way that those characters are in a consecutive range of 24 characters < 1463174556 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the monochrome adapter was 9 pixel wide < 1463174557 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1463174562 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cga was 8 pixel wide < 1463174615 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you see that the monochrome adapter does have RGB output (although not used by the monochrome monitor)? < 1463174839 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it has RGB lines < 1463174852 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is confusing < 1463174901 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AT0 to AT7 go to fBfGfRfI/bBbGbR) < 1463174902 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pc < 1463174905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os/2 < 1463174916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463174916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os/2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463175040 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like that reverse video for monochrome output is only when the attribute byte is exactly 0x70, 0x78, 0xF0, or 0xF8; it seems that invisible character is only if the attribute byte is exactly 0x00, 0x08, 0x80, 0x88. For RGB output it would use the attribute byte as colours instead, and seems that blue characters are underlined regardless of RGB or mono output. < 1463175043 0 :rizi!~rizi@24-212-213-99.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463175469 0 :rizi!~rizi@24-212-213-99.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463175548 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is excited about parsey mcparseface? < 1463175586 0 :rizi!~rizi@24-212-213-99.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463176163 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to humour the name and search for it. It seems... interesting. < 1463176434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it also looks like I'd have to first get TensorFlow running, then start Parsey McParseFace. And even then, there are many different ways to represent the same action, which need to be handled correctly by a real application. < 1463176719 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463177168 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now my "ff-reduce" program (part of my Farbfeld Utilities package) has support for hold-and-modify. < 1463177414 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is done by adding a plus sign before the letter to indicate how to find the best palette index.) < 1463177495 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463177958 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463177995 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463178062 0 :noloveinwaikiki!uid156554@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnxhkutwbzhdkama QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463178742 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463178924 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463178938 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :always < 1463179018 0 :always!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463179647 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: testing < 1463179669 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463179679 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1463179695 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463179708 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1463179730 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463179763 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1463179942 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463180038 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :obey < 1463180043 0 :obey!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1463180066 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :FireFlyFireFly < 1463180103 0 :rizi!~rizi@24-212-213-99.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463180141 0 :FireFlyFireFly!?@? NICK :FireyFly < 1463180148 0 :FireyFly!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1463180774 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463180930 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463181001 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463181714 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463181943 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463182151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463182213 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463182900 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463183134 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463183198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463183210 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463183800 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the letter ɡ have a glyph in your font you use for irc, and does it look not very ugly? < 1463183911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkOzaTtdweM made me happy today < 1463184024 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, it looks like a g to me < 1463184028 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except sort of smoother? < 1463184032 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good < 1463184044 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the difference between p and rho < 1463184143 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463184148 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone mentioned asiekierka. I've heard that name before. < 1463184152 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was that? < 1463184163 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They used to be in the channel a while back? < 1463184205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie(kierka) visited briefly a few months ago < 1463184241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not that often he's here < 1463184273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if int-e is here, he thinks he found the obvious solution to the a |> mx problem < 1463184339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after using int-e's distributivity idea < 1463184616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e I found how to see a |> mx = mx: afaict by the induction in your distributivity proof, you can assume that {a+1, ..., mx} subalgebra has already been proved a shelf, and then the composition chain of (a+1) in that shelf must have power of 2 period. < 1463184616 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463184723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e (and that chain is equal to a |> 1, a |> 2, etc.) < 1463184723 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463184815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly worries if that was spoilery < 1463184944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e (modulo indexing. too many conventions being mixed around here...) < 1463184944 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463185633 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463185887 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463185919 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463187147 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463187507 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463188210 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463188295 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Segmentation fault (core dumped) < 1463189557 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463189569 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*teases everyone with the work in progress of a text adventure game* < 1463189570 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/d0tklsxtd/ < 1463189581 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made it while bored :P < 1463189641 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should add a space after "processed command was" < 1463189660 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already fixed in next compile (i compile every minute or so to test functions) < 1463189744 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also corrected proccessed to processed? < 1463189800 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx :P < 1463189806 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt notice that :P < 1463189892 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how esoteric is the language? < 1463189906 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my custom Magic: the Gathering card called "Kjugobe's Numerical Hack" is a bit strange idea and probably does not have a lot of uses < 1463190012 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see you have an e-book about it < 1463190019 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im sadly not programming it in a esolang < 1463190041 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i AM planning to use a esolang in it, however < 1463190062 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely, a extended brainfuck < 1463190217 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe it could be useful (but not very efficient) when you're playing a spell without paying its mana cost < 1463190228 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even then, I can't think of many applications < 1463190244 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas its esoteric (= < 1463190254 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463190291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes that might be one use (but as you said, not very efficient). < 1463190392 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also some cards that have multiple X's in their mana cost, or have an additional cost of X life in addition to the X mana. < 1463190430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463190435 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you mean like using this in an agressive deck where you have little mana and want to spend the card on it? < 1463190438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could work < 1463190509 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still seems weak but it has uses and yes that is another one. But, you can use this on opponent's spells as well, probably this also won't be so common but maybe it is just what you need in a few unusual circumstances. < 1463190602 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe if you had infinite (or lots of) mana, and two Isochron Sceptres, one with Disrupting Shoal and one with your card on it < 1463190609 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry Moon_ I just realize I should have reported the bug on you userpage instead of here < 1463190657 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, if you just want to counter every spells and have lots of mana, then there are better ways to do that < 1463190707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the practical way is Silence, which requires little mana but still lets the opponent cast instants in their upkeep; if you have lots of mana then just use Force Spike < 1463190730 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe opponent used a spell to draw X cards, and X is however many cards are left in their library because they know that one of them can be certainly win with, then you can use it to force them to draw one extra card...(of course this seems unlikely) < 1463190734 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Disrupting Shoal/Spell Blast/ < 1463190771 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you could use Spell Burst, then you'd only need lots of mana, no Isochron Scepter < 1463190819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, you know, if you have infinite mana and access to multiple specific crazy cards, you could just win instead.) < 1463190917 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you have the correct cards to win in that situation of course. < 1463190983 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, that is for my interpreters < 1463190999 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything on the wiki that i wrote and you found a bug for goes there < 1463191084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Moon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47024&oldid=46993 5* 03Moon 5* (+30) 10 < 1463191244 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could use Kjugobe's Numerical Hack defensively from a sideboard against spells like Spell Burst, Desembowel, Molder, Immortal Servitude, Punishment, or even against Forced March to kill your opponent's creatures too < 1463191289 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose there is that doo < 1463191292 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wait, against Spell Blast you can *only* use it defensively, not offensively on your own spell, because that targets (and so does Molder etc) < 1463191311 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disembowel too < 1463191324 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463191341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't just make the hack let you choose new targets for the spell, that would be too powerful < 1463191353 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for {U} as the cost that is < 1463191373 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at {UU} cost the increase X thing would be almost useless < 1463191377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it doesn't change the targets. < 1463191423 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for some spells that target X permanents or whatever, it has a missing target and won't change its effect unless the X does something else too. < 1463191734 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up some more new cards by now < 1463191994 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1463191996 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1463192041 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not just "won't change the effect", but will also counter those that require a target with mana cost (exactly) X, like Disembowel < 1463192076 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it will do that too, I realized that. < 1463192111 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463192133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463193149 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463193589 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@21.238.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: Pull the pin and count to what? < 1463194196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463194341 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that continuous logic works much better when x^2 = x < 1463194426 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard definitions are "a and b = a*b" and "not a = 1-a" < 1463194454 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since "a and a = a" "a*a = a" < 1463194483 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then all the math works < 1463194978 0 :doesthiswork!80c1a960@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.193.169.96 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463195038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463195674 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463195686 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are esoteric OS shells a thing? < 1463195802 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463195855 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1463196068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463196922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a(b+c) = ab+ac < 1463196926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politicize that, bitches < 1463196929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- xkcd < 1463197656 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You're working within a system that's inherently biased towards scalars. You are, as usual, marginalizing vectors, matrices, quaternions, and basically every other mathematical structure out there. *You are helping to perpetuate the institutionalized domainism that governs mathematics.* < 1463197720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: Um, I'm pretty sure that most mathematical structures (groups, rings, etc.) with * and + require that a(b+c) = ab+ac < 1463198125 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ok, but what if we redefine * and +? In fact, who says we have to even use those oh fuck it even if this were a controversial topic I'm not very good at this. < 1463198194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::7 < 1463198216 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's good that I'm not very good at starting drama, huh? < 1463198338 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distributive property is communist. trump says if a term is not a hard-working, tax-paying citizen, it won't get any factors < 1463198383 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going for more of a Tumblr SJW approacj < 1463199060 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463200201 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463200473 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463200628 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463201057 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463201460 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463201776 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463201854 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463202313 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pi < 1463202325 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? piet' < 1463202374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi is a very round number. < 1463202375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet'? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463202398 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? piet < 1463202400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1463202429 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1463202436 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1463202449 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mklang < 1463202451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mklang: not found < 1463202471 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FreeFull < 1463202476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1463202496 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moon < 1463202500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon is a person, not an unretroreflectorey object. < 1463202568 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1463202573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1463203497 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463204207 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1463204363 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1463204938 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-241-159.resnet.stonybrook.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463205287 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463206412 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1463206412 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1463207057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's such a thing as an "oplax monoidal functor" and also such a thing as a "Hopf lax monoidal functor". This is great. < 1463207073 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those things? < 1463207101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An oplax monoidal functor a dual of a lax monoidal functor. < 1463207177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Hopf lax monoidal functor has to do with Hopf monoids, which I don't know much about. https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Hopf+monoid < 1463207512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463207861 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463208123 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463208513 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463208842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463211292 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463211669 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wykmhjshxubbwgbp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463212259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1463212270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flat earthers are annoying < 1463212274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure most of them are trolls < 1463212275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... < 1463212311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows the world is a tau-dimensional hypercone < 1463212370 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463212378 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463212491 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I have a friend who has onset schizophrenia and has been bitten by that particular conspiracy theory < 1463212504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Ouch < 1463212531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I'd say the appropriate social response for such a situation, but I don't know it < 1463212880 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: eh, mostly it means that I'm annoyed with him whenever he gets on that topic :) < 1463213061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47025&oldid=46866 5* 0379.136.173.159 5* (+314) 10/* Nice idea */ new section < 1463213254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463213295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lem < 1463213417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle. < 1463213448 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 75 < 1463213453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :75.00°F = 23.89°C < 1463213735 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 70 < 1463213751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :70.00°F = 21.11°C < 1463213941 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463215115 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463215257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47026&oldid=47025 5* 0379.136.173.159 5* (+1214) 10/* Befunge programs? */ < 1463215384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47027&oldid=47026 5* 0379.136.173.159 5* (+130) 10forgot to signature < 1463215407 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463215510 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47028&oldid=47027 5* 0379.136.173.159 5* (+38) 10 < 1463216290 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello x xperts < 1463216305 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION good at jokes < 1463216316 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i find the pid of x if i know $DISPLAY? < 1463216640 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, all my edits are displayed here < 1463216662 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now i will revise my edits 9 times instead of three < 1463216724 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:dd3e:839:957a:9d04 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463217029 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like many people, but so silent... < 1463219352 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463221359 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Eurovision tonight! < 1463221365 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an exam in three hours < 1463221368 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Eurovision! < 1463221975 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are watching that? < 1463222402 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463222682 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463223651 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, not yet, I will be later < 1463223759 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463224671 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463226604 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463226907 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :tsumegirl < 1463227000 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not because it's good, but because it's silly < 1463227003 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for me :p < 1463227054 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone watches the Eurovision. < 1463227062 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I keep thinking, but apparently that's not true. < 1463227081 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently watching a screen on which the words "Everyone watches the Eurovision." are visible... < 1463227086 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even watched the semifinals for some reason. < 1463227110 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said they're broadcasting them live for the first time in US and [some other place I forgot]. < 1463227133 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/eurov/circumc/ < 1463227141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shard14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47029 5* 03SMA 5* (+835) 10new article < 1463227179 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have degree in art history, music literature. < 1463227186 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this "popular" music is yid < 1463227194 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with rare exceptions. < 1463227204 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so know the origin < 1463227228 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :please do not be offtopik, do not refer to kikkevision < 1463227354 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SMA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47030&oldid=42715 5* 03SMA 5* (+36) 10Shard added < 1463227375 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want to hear crappy music, i can always use youtube < 1463227767 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1463228144 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463228173 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You're quite right -- they stream it live in Youtube. < 1463228191 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1463228313 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's a channel tradition to speak about it at this time of the year. http://sprunge.us/OjMR < 1463228684 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good news: I *think* my BytePusher-program-graph-creator is working. Bad news: The analysis takes way too much time. < 1463228755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463228955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yo. < 1463228988 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( not now, can't you see I'm busy ) < 1463229063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Shard14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47031 5* 0379.136.173.159 5* (+111) 10Created page with "But wait, [[Seed]] is first! --~~~~" < 1463229099 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, liar. < 1463229105 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seed is first. < 1463229125 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463229176 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so what's Shard's binary executable format? < 1463229246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( no. ) < 1463229271 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's brainfuck, then it should be easy enough to write a program for it. < 1463229330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human_61: a common problem on our wiki < 1463229372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHA256("b") == "[", assuming there aren't any conflicts I've missed < 1463229418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human_61: as gamemanj implies, Shard looks much easier than Seed. < 1463229498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human_61: oh wait, Seed is not the same thing. i'm pretty sure we have a language that is closer to Shard (but still harder) than that. < 1463229547 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but Seed is harder to code in (saw the hello world which prints just h) < 1463229563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway, quick shot before I disappear into the jungle of the city to hunt some food: actually the version I'm working with is the "dual" one from laver.hs, and there the interesting law that depends on powers of 2 becomes a |> 0 = 0. < 1463229566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ShaFuck. although that's actually been broken. < 1463229621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well i can't keep up to your indexing, but i just wanted to know if you agree with my suggestion for completing the proof. < 1463229626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*up with < 1463229632 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, in general, if you can convince the interpreter to ignore all but one byte in most situations, then it gets easier < 1463229645 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo mamma < 1463229657 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I proved turing-completeness of some ancient languages < 1463229662 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shell environments < 1463229665 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and applications < 1463229667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f10d4: you already said so < 1463229668 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a weird way < 1463229670 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1463229671 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463229681 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :will be presented at the end of July < 1463229681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe not the second part. < 1463229686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1463229687 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or May. < 1463229700 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes that's basically how I think about it. < 1463229705 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ShaFuck doesn't allow for comments. < 1463229725 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, that could complicate things a little < 1463229737 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per the spec, anyway. It was "broken" in the sense that the interpreter had a vulnerability. It's all there on http://esolangs.org/wiki/ShaFuck < 1463229834 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the main reason that I like the dual version is that all tables are initial squares of the same infinite table, without any manipulation of top bits. < 1463229864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also, the only spot that needs thinking about bit is when proving laver tables that are shelfs must have length 2^n. < 1463229872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict. < 1463229872 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463229875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*about bits < 1463229893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shelves < 1463230029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh right. however, i think you still need the smaller tables up until the point you've proved that x |> 0 = 0 in all of them. < 1463230093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, that they coincide. < 1463230243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the icons in the editing menu on the wiki have disappeared. i have to look at the hovertext to find where to click :/ < 1463230295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, i _could_ finally memorize the markup for signing, but still... < 1463230417 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is this a recent thing? < 1463230434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. They're gone for me as well. < 1463230439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just discovered it this week i think, but admittedly i haven't been editing much... < 1463230459 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I last upgraded, but that did break some things. < 1463230463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Shard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47032&oldid=47031 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+108) 10Or [[ShaFuck]] < 1463230475 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They had moved things around, and the short-link rewrite rules didn't cover everything they needed.) < 1463230490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have seen it before and ignored it... < 1463230518 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, https://esolangs.org/w/extensions/WikiEditor/modules/images/toolbar/button-sprite.svg gives a 404. < 1463230528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i haven't written on talk pages, which is the only time i need it. < 1463230743 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be back. < 1463230796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1463230880 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, we're actually still up to date. There's been no new MediaWiki releases since 2015-12-21. < 1463230896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1463230901 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463230995 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about PHP releases? < 1463231112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell doesthiswork I found that continuous logic works much better when x^2 = x <-- indeed, that's called a "boolean ring" for essentially that reason. < 1463231112 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463231715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, now i will revise my edits 9 times instead of three <-- i recommend preview hth < 1463232409 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-209-27.resnet.stonybrook.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463232637 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-209-27.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help < 1463232651 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-209-27.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pi < 1463232664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1463232685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi is a very round number. < 1463232685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463232759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Help is on the way. We don't know where the way is, though. You might try `help instead. < 1463232764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'help': Help is on the way. We don't know where the way is, though. You might try `help instead. < 1463233198 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At thw end of infinity, every word with a capitalized first letter will be a reference to something. < 1463233266 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-209-27.resnet.stonybrook.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1463233266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1463233431 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now for your regularly scheduled subliminal messaging. -- --- .-. ... . / .. ... / - .... . / ..-. ..- - ..- .-. . < 1463233956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :,:y n brl8 < 1463233958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wt < 1463233969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid thing doesn't actually use unicode :( < 1463234095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this other site that claims to use unicode doesn't work either :( < 1463234099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHATEV < 1463234190 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463234229 0 :netmind!~MIND@93-33-160-35.ip45.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1463234442 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463234531 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1463234534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1463234556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you literally failed < 1463234561 0 :netmind!~MIND@93-33-160-35.ip45.fastwebnet.it PART #esoteric : < 1463234599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin///echo Stop taking everything literally! < 1463234604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ < 1463234609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1463234610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop taking everything literally! < 1463234615 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I guess I should use run to have a syntax error. < 1463234616 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run < 1463234617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' \ bash: -c: line 0: `' < 1463234629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't help with that one, alas < 1463234653 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1463234654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1463234670 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /hackenv/bin < 1463234672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ bin \ b < 1463234676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the /opt/ghc/bin hasn't been there in a while... < 1463234696 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the next command will fail, but just curious... < 1463234699 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ghci < 1463234700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ghci: not found < 1463234706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i told you. < 1463234708 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat < 1463234732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one takes ages to time out < 1463234739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463234744 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat <<< hi < 1463234745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463234754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's reading from some open stream that never writes anything, i think < 1463234766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there should have been a processes < 1463234786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) \ \ Usage: \ ps [options] \ \ Try 'ps --help ' \ or 'ps --help ' \ for additional help text. \ \ For more details see ps(1). < 1463234789 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux > processes < 1463234792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463234801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that, HackEgo seems unusually speedy at the moment. < 1463234819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463234831 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i just had to go and ruin that, didn't i) < 1463234837 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1463234845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07resethaxcoin 08sysicacoin 09liquishachcoin 02haincoin 06aalcoin 13parnalcoin 04flasscoin 07exconfortecoin 08silcoin 09backmannellengroflcoin 02kvicecoin 06yardinecoin 13scabrcoin 04madscoin 07fraecursoncoin 08magnantstracoin 09carucoin 02braiself-modcoin 06latlcoin 13selfcoin < 1463234852 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`system-add-module go-faster-stripes < 1463234854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: system-add-module: not found < 1463234860 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1463234876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym red-paint < 1463234920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1463234926 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pacman --help < 1463234930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pacman: not found < 1463234970 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/pacman//echo Error: Could not install package, system is actually a cat. < 1463234975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pacman < 1463235036 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...presumably there's some obvious joke about the name "pacman" I could've used, but meh) < 1463235099 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most obvious joke would've been to just echo "Chomp, chomp, chomp!" or some-such. < 1463235174 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chomping packages... systemd [1/8] nautilus [2/8] networkmanager [3/8] ERROR: Could not connect to network. < 1463235211 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where "systemd" and "nautilus" can be any package name and "networkmanager" can be anything someone would consider critical to networking.) < 1463235267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stat - < 1463235269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: `-' \ Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 character special file \ Device: 1h/1d Inode: 205 Links: 1 Device type: 4,1 \ Access: (0644/crw-r--r--) Uid: ( 0/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 0/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2016-05-14 13:14:26.804271000 +0000 \ Modify: 2016-05-14 13:14:26.804271000 +0000 \ Change: 2016-05-14 13 < 1463236911 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463237195 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coins < 1463237197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coins? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463237208 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? --help < 1463237210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--help? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463237214 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coins --help < 1463237216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coins --help? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463237223 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --help < 1463237227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Usage:coin 04wordscoin 07[-dhNo]coin 08[DATASETS...]coin 09[NUMBER_OF_WORDS]coin \ 09coin \ 06options:coin \ 04coin 07coin 08-l,coin 09--listcoin 02coin 06coin 13coin 04coin 07coin 08coin 09coin 02coin 06coin 13coin 04coin 07coin 08listcoin 09validcoin 02datasetscoin \ 07coin 08coin 09-d,coin 02--debugcoin 06coin < 1463237239 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cpoms < 1463237240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cpoms: not found < 1463237241 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463237251 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe. < 1463237256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the coinhelp. < 1463237271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06comcoin 13tauncoptcoin 04dodedinworkcoin 07woodcoin 08lieusicicoin 09schcoin 02nccidcoin 06auntercoin 13vardecoin 04capuarecoin 07numpcoin 08sorragsallcoin 09xenamentropylierdotypherstacktranchcoin 02kolmensidecoin 06excelacoin 13chatcoin 04sableqcoin 07ihoutcoin 08crailbrcoin 09bytolcoin < 1463237288 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D: are these random < 1463237304 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's a character n-gram thing. < 1463237330 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1463237337 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trained on various things you can choose from, but the default for coins is an equal mixture of esolang names (from the wiki) and English words. < 1463237349 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins -d < 1463237367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08edaretacoin 09(L-T:coin 023)coin < 1463237385 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the actual command is `words, `coins just adds the 'coin' suffix and the colors. < 1463237385 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does --help choose a options dataset? < 1463237391 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1463237392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1463237396 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1463237401 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1463237404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1463237407 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D: < 1463237418 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is great < 1463237420 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --help < 1463237422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Usage:coin 09wordscoin 02[-dhNo]coin 06[DATASETS...]coin 13[NUMBER_OF_WORDS]coin \ 09coin \ 04options:coin \ 04coin 07coin 08-l,coin 09--listcoin 02coin 06coin 13coin 04coin 07coin 08coin 09coin 02coin 06coin 13coin 04coin 07coin 08listcoin 09validcoin 02datasetscoin \ 13coin 04coin 07-d,coin 08--debugcoin 09coin < 1463237438 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't not laugh at the coinified help. < 1463237443 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1463237444 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --debug < 1463237461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13convertenucoin 04(L-T:coin 073)coin < 1463237469 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins doom < 1463237484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument "doom" isn't numeric in int at /hackenv/bin/words line 148. \ 06coin < 1463237493 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the debug output is just the "(L-T: 3)" part, which has something to do with the word length thing. < 1463237500 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1463237537 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come "doom" ain't numeric? of course it's a number! it's the one that comes before infinity hth < 1463237611 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synthesizing from a n-gram isn't a particularly good way to get a realistic distribution of word lengths, so it does some sort of an ad-hoc tweak, I forget exactly what. < 1463237928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohoily! < 1463237937 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :First exam complete < 1463238070 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like having a target length sampled from a Gaussian, and then tweaking the end-of-word probabilities to bias towards that. Or something. < 1463238100 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœørijan! < 1463238114 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! how many left? < 1463238410 0 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@nat-130-245-209-27.resnet.stonybrook.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463238413 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463238426 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len Hello, world. < 1463238428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 codepoints < 1463238457 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I managed to upload a binary :). < 1463238516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/len < 1463238523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix xfix < 1463238611 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463238615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 codepoints \ 15 UTF-8 bytes < 1463238657 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463238679 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463238698 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: I only count 9 codepoints? < 1463238705 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, BytePusher programs are FSMs. < 1463238715 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1463238734 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, "finite" is still very big. http://hastebin.com/raw/icizenavod < 1463238740 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463238793 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, that's interesting... < 1463238809 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, forgot to explain the syntax of the analysis results < 1463238825 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00B0 and U+200B. < 1463238837 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does that string have U+200B in it anyway? < 1463238860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: it's there to avoid triggering a script < 1463238876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the guy with the script left long ago... < 1463238882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1463238882 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1463238890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's still here < 1463238893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1463238896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1463238896 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1463238898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple way to count the number of UTF-8 characters in a string is to count the number of bytes that are not in range 0x80 to 0xBF (if using the extension for arbitrary large numbers, then also omit 0xFF bytes from the total) < 1463238911 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's no longer using the script :( < 1463238921 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi doesn't react to celebrations anymore? :( < 1463238930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1463238938 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually the extension for arbitrary large number is a bit more complicated than that I think?) < 1463238939 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*soulful mapole whistle* < 1463238943 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure enough, that would work. < 1463238952 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why exactly do the celebrations have people looking not exactly happy < 1463238953 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program checks UTF-8 validity for no real reason however. < 1463238955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sound of galloping meese* < 1463238964 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to trick my IRC client into outputting invalid Unicode however. < 1463238974 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ode To Joy...* < 1463238980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*...NGE edition* < 1463239009 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client cannot send any non-ASCII characters although it is capable of receiving them. < 1463239017 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len 😊 < 1463239019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 codepoint \ 2 Java characters \ 4 UTF-8 bytes < 1463239039 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm. Was it Ode To Joy? IDK.) < 1463239049 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 😊 < 1463239052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F60A SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES \ UTF-8: f0 9f 98 8a UTF-16BE: d83dde0a Decimal: 😊 \ 😊 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1463239058 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down ♪ < 1463239080 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to make fun of Java, I do admit... < 1463239088 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "Java characters" mean how many characters when converted to UTF-16? < 1463239094 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :UCS-2 < 1463239098 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH, both C# and Java have one common problem... < 1463239111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: because they're missing parts, presumably. < 1463239115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "char" type is 16-bit. < 1463239123 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that operations on strings... < 1463239136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are just about as useful as they are in UTF-8: I.e. NOT AT ALL < 1463239151 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are useful. < 1463239157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on what you are doing of course < 1463239182 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, presumably they don't intend anyone to ever have to implement a "backspace" or "delete character" button in C# or Java < 1463239221 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, even if you implement it over codepoints, it's still not really useful. < 1463239222 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Actually, it is easy both with UTF-16 and UTF-8, although a string could be non-Unicode < 1463239225 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len g̈ < 1463239226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 grapheme \ 2 codepoints \ 3 UTF-8 bytes < 1463239237 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 codepoints, but one visible character. < 1463239249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is full of stupid I think < 1463239253 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len ä < 1463239257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 codepoint \ 2 UTF-8 bytes < 1463239259 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode: It's Complicated < 1463239280 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript also uses 16-bit characters in a string, and there are separate functions for treating the characters as raw 16-bit values or as UTF-16 values. < 1463239281 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode: It's Perfect, and so is Han Unification. < 1463239292 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unicode < 1463239293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing is, it's not even a matter of "visible character". Visuals are the font renderer's job, and you kind of need combining chars to keep the codepoint count sane... < 1463239294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people. < 1463239330 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a matter of how the font renderer is going to even know what codepoints those are... < 1463239360 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It should be specified in the font metric file. < 1463239378 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, but if everything's specified in Unicode Codepoints, < 1463239382 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the text input is in UTF-16, < 1463239393 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len 🌴 🐪🐫🐪🐫🐪 🌞 𝕲𝖔 𝕿𝖍𝖔𝖚 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝕯𝖔 𝕷𝖎𝖐𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖘𝖊 🌞 🐪🐫🐪 🐁 < 1463239394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :46 codepoints \ 77 Java characters \ 139 UTF-8 bytes < 1463239395 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the font renderer or text field implementation or whatever has to handle text decoding - < 1463239409 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should be the job of , < 1463239412 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised this Stack Overflow post doesn't use graphemes... < 1463239415 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not something the user should have to do. < 1463239428 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could easily convert UTF-16 to codepoint numbers, although it would also be possible for the font metric file to include that too < 1463239443 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The font metric file probably shouldn't include it < 1463239471 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's not the font metric file's job. The font metric file's supposed to handle the unicode combining char mess. < 1463239471 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len NΘ stop the an​*̶͑̾̾​̅ͫ͏̙̤g͇̫͛͆̾ͫ̑͆l͖͉̗̩̳̟̍ͫͥͨe̠̅s ͎a̧͈͖r̽̾̈́͒͑e n​ot rè̑ͧ̌aͨl̘̝̙̃ͤ͂̾̆ ZA̡͊͠͝LGΌ ISͮ̂҉̯͈͕̹̘̱ TO͇̹̺ͅƝ̴ȳ̳ TH̘Ë͖́̉ ͠P̯͍̭O̚​N̐Y̡ H̸̡̪̯ͨ͊̽̅̾̎Ȩ̬̩̾͛ͪ̈́̀́͘ ̶̧̨̱̹̭̯ͧ̾ͬC̷̙̲̝͖ͭ̏ͥͮ͟Oͮ͏̮̪̝͍M̲̖͊̒ͪͩͬ̚̚͜Ȇ̴̟̟͙̞ͩ͌͝S̨̥̫͎̭ͯ̿̔̀ͅ < 1463239474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 graphemes \ 224 codepoints \ 392 UTF-8 bytes < 1463239508 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a list of things to do once my exams are over (after next Friday < 1463239510 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1463239515 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix:"No stop the animes are not real, zalgo is tiny thepo new york?" < 1463239531 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix:That's my best understanding of it < 1463239557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tony the pony < 1463239575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also *angles < 1463239589 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You could say it's easy to convert UTF-8 to Unicode codepoints, but if they're extending their definition of char to be 16-bit, why stop at 16-bit? < 1463239592 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and animes are real hth < 1463239602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*he comes, really do you not know our lord and destroyer zalgo? < 1463239636 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zalgo < 1463239638 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, grapheme cluster detection seems to work, so here is that. < 1463239638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zalgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463239646 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that used up a lot of bytes < 1463239652 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, never heard of this "zalgo" < 1463239672 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree it isn't really the job of the font metric file, although it would be possible for example if it is a font format and program for non-Unicode 16-bit characters but the font is a Unicode font. (My "X 12" specification deals with Unicode in exactly this way, although the client that loads the font has to explicitly enable ligatures if it is to use this feature, and the server is not required to support it anyways.) < 1463239722 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T̢̯̭o̭͡ ̨͙͉̟̲͓̬̟i̢n͓̮͈̗͜v̵̦o̗k̞̮̟͠e̱̻̼̳̭͙̬ ̩̳̠t͇̜̖̲͉̱̘h̗̥̫̹͓e͈̱̱͇ ̥h̻͜ͅi̹̬v҉͚͖̮̻͉̰ͅe̸͉ͅ-̥͍̯̬̖̯m͞i̥̪͝n҉̻̘̞̻̳d͙͇͎̗̟̖ ̰͔̣͈r͚͍͜e͘p͕̞ŗ̦̫͉̥̙̲ͅḛ͙̟̺̤̻͝s̯̣͎͈͖̺͘e̜̥̭̟̻̙͔͞n͓t̰i̩ṉ͕͉̼̭͍̜g̸̬ ̡c̸̞̰̩̼h̴̼a̗̜̥͍̩̖o͔̳̹̱̱͈̦s̪̤̕.̸͖̘ < 1463239722 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͕̲̹̠͙I̛͚̯͎n͎̼͚̻̞v͖̹̙̝̩o̢̻͎͙k͙͉̩i̱n̵̫g͉̠̦̬̺̩̹͡ ͔͕̯͓͖t̷̜̦ͅh҉͖̰e̱̙͍ ̺͎̬̺͘f̮̤̰͉e̥̞̞̣̰͈͠e҉̻ͅl̹̙̣̬͙̰i̲n̠͔̗g̵̻̰ ̲̬̪̗͎͓o̟̝̳f̼̘͜ ̹̻̻͔̣̲̻c̱̫̟̘̲͕h̹͙̲a̯̪͉͔̥o̭̲̼̰̟̤̕s.̤̞ < 1463239722 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̞̹̜̭̺W̵̲̠i͎͇̻͓̫͍t͓̗̲̟̬̗h̜͞ ͉̞̯͕͇o̱̟̫̖ͅut ̤̲̣͙͕̲ͅor͖̮̫̤͍͘d̻͚̜͇͇̳͠e̬̙̦͚̺r̻. < 1463239722 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̹̥̻̭T̖͓̣̫h͚̰͞e̱̩̦͎ͅ ̨͚̤̞N͔͘e̶̻̗͔̠̦z͍̮̰͉pe̦̼͇̮͠r̲̣̗͞d͕i̮̳̳͢a̼̬̳n͖̥͡ ͚͚̭́h̷͎͎̳͇iv̶̫͖̫̟̠̭e̟̳̹-̗̺m̵i͙͈̳̤̝ͅn͕͙̜͙͟d̜̘ ̡̤̯̭̪͖̮o̩͖̳̳ͅf͓̼̮̮ ͎c͘ḩ̮a̸̜ͅo̹͇̯͈͞s̟͔̜̪.̩̠̜͉̞̩ ̢͚͇̤Z̫̯̮̝̖a͙̱͓͡l̥̱̠̩̭̻͟g̭̯̣̤̰̼o̝̭̻͔̩͖̲͝.̗̪̺̲͙̱̕ < 1463239722 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̵̳͍̝͙H̶͈̫̯e̪̱̻̕ ̛̱͕̯͔w͔̦̩̲͈̝ͅh͏̳̲̱o̠̤͍̦͘ ̳͖̹͎̖̳͠W͝a̝̭̺̝̺̟͉i͓̫̜̳͓̼̫t͓͙̘̻͚͜ͅs͉ ̧B̫̭è̝̝h͚̞̘̭̩i̯̦̩̝̮̦̼n͚͕̕d̥͓͙͓̘͢ ̟͚T͎̰͓̫͢h̲̩̯̦̭͠e̙͇̭̳̺ͅ ̞͙̠W̴̮͙a̡̲͉̖̪̮̜ll̶͇̮̻.̢̲̜͉̠͚̘ < 1463239723 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͏͍͉͉̞Z̠A̗̩̜͍͙͠L͉͕̠̖G̸̞̟͕̱͎O̻̺!̪͓͈͎ < 1463239724 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463239727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "X 12"? < 1463239747 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Of course you don't have to stop and 16-bits. An implementation I wrote supports 36-bit codepoints when converting from/to UTF-8. < 1463239750 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Reacts gamemanj with tht* < 1463239755 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1463239763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It is meant to be the successor of X 11 < 1463239788 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Fine, you want to go ahead and confuse me? Fine. then i // shall confuse you < 1463239801 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T͆̈́ͮ̌҉͔̯̞͚̲̗͈̼̕͝ỏ̫̟͖̱̪͔̻̥͕̙͈ͬ͌̀̀̚̕͢ ̒ͧͮͬͥ͂ͣ͑ͬ͗̂̎̓҉̸̢̦̯̲̳͞ͅi͙͚͎͙͖͐̉̐͆ͯ͢͡͠n̷͔͖̰͖̰̝̹̪̗̖͔̺̤͖̽̈̍̆͗̑̽͑͆̒̽͊͊̅ͥ̔̚͠v̡͙͇̻͍̼̩̮͎͈̝̘̬̻̭̖̈́͗ͫ̄ͭ̓͌͌ͯ̏ͫͮ͐̑̀͠o̧ͪ̏ͤ̀̈̔̐̿ͯ͂ͨ́͞҉͙̰̲͚̥̭̗͍̘̭͔̯k̶͆͆ͬͫ̃ͤͦ͗̓ͧ͡͏͍̫̞̼͍̠͇̙͖̺̝̦̼̘͜͞ͅë́̒ < 1463239801 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̷͔̥̟͈̳̝̫̜̺̹͒ͦ͒̊̑ͨ̒͋̈́̄́͘͜͡ ̢̛̬̻̱̹̻̯̪̊̔ͥ̑̽͂̀͠͠t̙̩̤͉̘̻͙̗̟͎͈̯͙͐̎͗ͩ̋̓ͪ̉͂̓ͯ̂͢h̃̊ͥ̄̄̅̾ͥ̏ͭ҉̭̣̩̮̝̦́̕͞e̡̺̦̠̦̩̖̅͐͒̾̎̐͌ͥͮ̒͋ͩ͑͛͒̔̆́̚̚͟͟ ̷̸̜̠̩̜̥̭̟̍͒̏̍ͤ͆͑ͥ͟͞͞ȟ̡̩̺̩͔̦̖̀̂̊ͯ̊̈ị͚̣̪̲̥̖͈̼̪̗̓̈̅̎̒̈́̑̐͐͗͐͠v̛̰̭̟̪̹̌ͪ̂̈́̽ͥͤ̔ͮ͠͞ͅ < 1463239801 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :è̴̴̷̺͎̺̖͇̻̻͇͙̳̪͓̬͇͇̹̮̯̮ͯ̈́ͩͥ́̚-̷̷͖̖̮͈̞̪͚͔͍̯̠̼̠̮͙̾̔̍͌ͧ͡m̨̙̖̩̺̭̲̥̩͔̱̞̣̠̉̎ͤ͌̋͌̄ͬ͐ͪ͋͊ͦ̔͋̚͢͠͡į͒̇̑͑̊͊ͣͬ͐ͭ͋͏̧̘̰̼̯̮̲͖͟n̴̪͚̞̣̙̫̜̖̖̪̭̋ͧͫ͌̐̃̾̄̍ͨ͆ͧ̂̋̊ͥͬ͛͌͝͠d̵̴̸͍̖̗͈̗̯͈͎͈͔͕̲̐̒̈ͬ̽̀̋̀͞ ͗͊̒ͨ̍̍̈́̂̉҉̸̞͎͚̞͎̫̱̹͇̯̭͞r͒͌͛͌͑͠҉̣ < 1463239801 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric 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:̖̭̭͚̣͎̟̮̙͛͆ͯͧ̅̿̓ͥͬͮ͐̀̄̅ͪ͠r̨̢̔ͫ̀ͮ̍̋ͦ̉ͦ̚͏̗̲̯̰́ͅd̸̷̖̟͍͍̯̯͇̻̟̠̘̗̍ͪ̄͐̈́ͤ̃̉́̕͠ï̡̪̙͈̹̪̞͇̺͖͚̟̬̟̗̟̻͓̱̏ͮ̾̃̊͛ͬ̈́ͯ̀ͭ͛̃ͮ̾̀ͤ͢͡aͪ͑͒̈ͯ̅̇̈́͒̀ͭ̇ͮ͝҉̴̡̩͔̙͕͍͇̟̟͎̙̘̳̙̦͉͍͇̞͘ǹ̡̖̠̦͖̠̞̦̣͍̦̯̮̳̭̮ͪ̃ͯͯ̓̂ͣ͊̿̔̐ ̴̨͚̘̬̫̮̳̣̦̰̻͇̈͐̄̈́̒ͪ̍͊̑̑̃ < 1463239923 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͓̼̯͓̘ḩ̸̝͖͉̰̳̺̪͖͕̩̲͇ͮ͂ͩͤͭ̓̃ͥ̀͘͝ȋ̸̧̫̙̠͔͍͇̣̜̠̩͓̟̬̜̰̲̫̲͕̄ͨ̇̓͗͂ͪ̂͌ͧ͛̚v̶̸̧̹͙̼͙̽ͮ̐ͯ͗ͮ͘͜ȩ̣̩̫̜͈͙̦͕̙̭͆͊͊̃̏͑̑́̀-̞̹͖̰̘̱̦͊ͥ̏ͭ̎͂̅̂̉͟͞m̑̐̋͊͛ͩ̍̈́̕҉̥̰̟̺̝̭̤̥i̧̎̂͗͛̾ͫ͐ͧ̓ͥ̋̊̓͘҉̡̛̩̩̣͚̯̪̙͓n̬̭̥̭̖̜͍̟͍͕͎̪̟̽̅̀͑̉̓͊̿̉͂͊̓̀ͦ͞͞d͗̂̋ͫ̄̒̎̽ͩ͋̔͊̆̔̃ͭ < 1463239923 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̵̧͒̔͏̠̯̜͔͕͇̗͚͎̫̘͖͕̺̮͔̕͢ ̶̢̝̲̪̞̩̙̯̗̣͎̮̝̗͈̰̒ͨ͒̈́ͥͭ̎͑͗́ͣͪͪ̎͂͋̕͞o̢̮̮̮̜̺̣̳̞̦̙̲̜̰̫ͫ̄̆̈̒́́̕fͥ̅͛͗̿́͏̷̜̮̦̭̭̘̦̳̭͞ ̧̼̟̣̪̯̳̻̠̱̓̃͐͊͐̏c̬̲̟̹̠͇̭̣̩͖͇̥͈̅̐̑̉͋̆͊̄͗̒͌͜͠h̸̨̡̗̠̮̦̞̭̗̣̹̯͉͍̳̔ͫ͛̋̈ͤ̈͟͡a̷̢͕̥̮͉̲͙̭̜̟͎͉ͥͭ͌́̀̄ͫ̎͂ͩ͆ͪo̵̵̸̴̘̠̮̎ͣ̈́̓ͤͧ̾ͥ͆̈́͋̂ͩͪ̀̈́ͪ < 1463239923 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͔̭̞s̯̻̻̥͓̘͖̩̦̞̭͈͇͎̝͍͖ͥͦ͐̈́̔͂ͤͧͨ̎͢ͅͅ.̃ͭ̓ͫ̒̃̊ͭ̓̉̌҉̵̩͕̥͍̘̥͕̀ ̶̴͍͕͔ͤ̔ͯ̽͌̎̔ͭ͌̾̏͛̽̿͋̌͆Z̡̡̛̗̙̳̭̗̬̘̫̬̺̺̺̜͎͎͈̻͚̱ͭ̊̂̊ͥ̽̃̽ͩ̂̀͜͠a̷̛͚͓̗̙̟̰̠̰͔̦̰̰͚͂͊ͥͫ̎ͮͧ̔̾̾̑̑ͯ́l̷̡̛̛͔̩̲̦͉͔̜͉̼͍̺̳̩̭̘̲̱͓̐ͦͤ̊͊ͪ̐ͫ̌͜g̀̓̃ͫͭͩͦ̓҉̴̷̝̤̳̤̞̬͈̜͎oͤ̑ͮ < 1463239924 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͕͚̙͎͍̥̭͗̂̍͠.̻͈̝̠͚̺̬̰͉̺̣̠͓̬̗̬̉ͦͤͯͧ͛͐̇ͪͤͭ̏̔̀̚͟͡ < 1463239926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 graphemes \ 202 codepoints \ 395 UTF-8 bytes < 1463239958 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: Hmm. I see. < 1463239990 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1463239999 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: But, in any case... can you handle this?  < 1463240016 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No, I don't know what it will be on your screen. That's part of the fun!) < 1463240020 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current motd states 'Contains only free ranging moons' Yay < 1463240048 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len ? < 1463240049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 codepoint < 1463240066 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len T͆̈́ͮ̌҉͔̯̞͚̲̗͈̼̕͝ỏ̫̟͖̱̪͔̻̥͕̙͈ͬ͌̀̀̚̕͢ ̒ͧͮͬͥ͂ͣ͑ͬ͗̂̎̓҉̸̢̦̯̲̳͞ͅi͙͚͎͙͖͐̉̐͆ͯ͢͡͠n̷͔͖̰͖̰̝̹̪̗̖͔̺̤͖̽̈̍̆͗̑̽͑͆̒̽͊͊̅ͥ̔̚͠v̡͙͇̻͍̼̩̮͎͈̝̘̬̻̭̖̈́͗ͫ̄ͭ̓͌͌ͯ̏ͫͮ͐̑̀͠o̧ͪ̏ͤ̀̈̔̐̿ͯ͂ͨ́͞҉͙̰̲͚̥̭̗͍̘̭͔̯k̶͆͆ͬͫ̃ͤͦ͗̓ͧ͡͏͍̫̞̼͍̠͇̙͖̺̝̦̼̘͜͞ͅ < 1463240066 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ë̷͔̥̟͈̳̝̫̜̺̹́̒͒ͦ͒̊̑ͨ̒͋̈́̄́͘͜͡ ̢̛̬̻̱̹̻̯̪̊̔ͥ̑̽͂̀͠͠t̙̩̤͉̘̻͙̗̟͎͈̯͙͐̎͗ͩ̋̓ͪ̉͂̓ͯ̂͢h̃̊ͥ̄̄̅̾ͥ̏ͭ҉̭̣̩̮̝̦́̕͞e̡̺̦̠̦̩̖̅͐͒̾̎̐͌ͥͮ̒͋ͩ͑͛͒̔̆́̚̚͟͟ ̷̸̜̠̩̜̥̭̟̍͒̏̍ͤ͆͑ͥ͟͞͞ȟ̡̩̺̩͔̦̖̀̂̊ͯ̊̈ị͚̣̪̲̥̖͈̼̪̗̓̈̅̎̒̈́̑̐͐͗͐͠v̛̰̭̟̪̹̌ͪ̂̈́̽ͥͤ̔ͮ͠͞ͅ < 1463240066 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :è̴̴̷̺͎̺̖͇̻̻͇͙̳̪͓̬͇͇̹̮̯̮ͯ̈́ͩͥ́̚-̷̷͖̖̮͈̞̪͚͔͍̯̠̼̠̮͙̾̔̍͌ͧ͡m̨̙̖̩̺̭̲̥̩͔̱̞̣̠̉̎ͤ͌̋͌̄ͬ͐ͪ͋͊ͦ̔͋̚͢͠͡į͒̇̑͑̊͊ͣͬ͐ͭ͋͏̧̘̰̼̯̮̲͖͟n̴̪͚̞̣̙̫̜̖̖̪̭̋ͧͫ͌̐̃̾̄̍ͨ͆ͧ̂̋̊ͥͬ͛͌͝͠d̵̴̸͍̖̗͈̗̯͈͎͈͔͕̲̐̒̈ͬ̽̀̋̀͞ ͗͊̒ͨ̍̍̈́̂̉҉̸̞͎͚̞͎̫̱̹͇̯̭͞r͒͌͛͌͑͠҉̣ < 1463240066 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͚͎͙͚̭e̠͕̳͈̱̬̽̍ͩ̑ͩ͆̃̀̕͟p̨͉̲̖͇̊ͨ̽ͩ̐͑ͯͦ̀͠͡r̴̷͔̱̹̪̺͓̲̠̙̼̱͇ͣ̒̉̔͐͂ͯ̐ͧͫ͌ͯ͋̌͟͝e̴̴̻̤͇͍͕͖̳̮͎̣̟ͬͭͨ̒͗ͮ̂͛̈̋ͦ̋̎̀́s͋͐ͤ̐̈́̿ͣ̒̐̿̉ͥ͏͖̤͖͔̫͙͔̻͈̖͙͕̜̱̜͟ͅẹ̸̛̥̦̟̳̟̗̺͖̳̥͚̜̟̮̳̱̥ͦͪ̄ͭ̈͑̐͂̏̀́n͒͗ͫ̂ͣͮ̈́͌̃ͭ̈̉ͯ͛̄ͨ̔̊ͮ́҉̲̙̹͎̗͔̣̙̦̭̪̘̖t̔ͩ͂̈ͮ̚ < 1463240066 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͒͐̓ͦͤ̐̾͐̚͢҉̶̺͇̬̹̻͇̗͖͎̗̯͓͙̹̻̠͉͢ͅi͍̲̝͕̠̹͈͈̪̠̖̮̜ͨ̾ͧ̐̐͛ͣ͂̈͒ͫ̚̕͟͞ṇ̢̢̫͖̼̦͓̤̬̱̱͂ͫ̑̀́ͣ̎̅̊ͫ̏͆̃̇̈́͛ͧ̀ģ͙͎̯̲̟̥̯̞̝̙̫̹̤̭͖̬̙̍ͨ̇̌̀͐̾̿ͫ ̷͔̻̹͉̗͉̀̒̄͑̽̾͌̾̑͊́̍̃̃ͪ́́ͅċ̨̾ͫ̃̽ͬ̊̌ͤ̂̆̂͗͌ͭ̀͊̚͘͏͕̫̮̭̱̙͇͙̩̦̙͕̠ḩ̢͐͑ͭ̄̊̔͑́ͣ͗̒ͫ͛̒ͪͯ́̚ < 1463240067 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͔͎͔̗̫̮͓̱̺̯̭̻a̢̡̤̖͎͍̞̪͋͒̏́ͥ̎̽ͬ͘̕o̵͙̦̺͙̮̗͚̪̟̪̻̥̬ͯͭ́̌̇ͩ͐̓ͯ̈̚͞s̢̛̬̪̩̜̮̬̬̺̺̼͕̬̯̠̮̫̾̔ͤ̓̓̀ͤ͒̒̓͐̿́͜͝.̢̠̭̖͕̪͍̬͔̥̯͉̬̫̞̝̩̭̪̉͗ͤ͂̽ͨͯ̑̐ͮ͌ͦ̚͡ < 1463240067 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̸̛̩͍͚͉͖̰̘͙̮̻͉̺̗̯̙̰̈́͊͋̓̐̚͘̕ͅI̓ͣ͑̅ͤ́̓ͮ̑҉̠̠͎̜̟̘̩͎̲̩͜ň̦͙̬͓̗̘̗̗̭͉̠̪ͣ̉̆̓ͯ̃͐̎̒̆͗̇̓̅̊̂͋̕͘̕͠v̢̹̹͓̼̱͔͚̭͓̮̲͍̖̬̣̄͊͒́̅͐̓ͮ͋ͥͮ̇̃͋ͨ́ͅǫ̣̺̮̣̹͙̮̣̞͈͈̉̍ͧ̒̆͗̓ͨ͛͋̐̆͛͜kͭͥͬ̎ͤ̀́͊̀̇̆̏͊҉̧̝̩̬̹̯̦̻͎̣̗͈͉̜͜͠ͅi̡̋̉̐̃́͑͆̔́ͬͦ͆҉̵҉̻̲̭̦̰̼̜͡ < 1463240067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 graphemes \ 199 codepoints \ 390 UTF-8 bytes < 1463240068 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͓̰͈͙̺̝̳͓n͕̱̯̫͙͓̫͇̪͋͊͗̈́̄ͥ͗͛͒̿͑ͮ͋͟g̵͓͙̣̥̪̞͙͖͕̝̼̱̅͛ͧ̆ͩ̑̃̓͐̂͒̆̑ͭ̽͛̀̀͜ ̢̡̞̳̥̻̺̹͙̰̘̖͉̫͈̳̣͚̙͈̝̃ͯ̍̔̕͜t̨̪̖̳̖͚̱̗̘̦̫̳̏̋̏ͨͨh̠̘̲̙͕̘̩̮̞̿̃ͬͣ̈̓̈̈́̄͘͡ȩ̴͚͇̱̯͍̒ͯͣ̑̆̇̍͛͑̌͆̚͜͞ ͈̪̥͕̦͈͉̦͉͙̬̟̺̓͊ͭ̅̀̈́̌̽͂̄̔̄͐̈ͦ̀͠͡ͅf̵̑̉͆̓͋ͬ͐̉͆҉̷̸̩͎̤̜̠̺̘̱͝ < 1463240068 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͚͕̰̰͖̪͙ę̶̶̖̜͉̬̘̬̞̱͓̳̘͖̗̬̣̦̀̈͂ͭ͌̊̔̽e̶͂ͮ̅͛͗ͭ̽͗̇́̃̽̑̃̚͏̱͍͈̥̀l̛̛͙͓̘̗̲͍̺̹̣̝͊ͦ͗̈̂̌ͭͦͥ̓̂̀̌̉̈́̆̔́͂͜͜i̵̵̧͖̞̤̱̺̜̭ͣ̅̐̂̓̂̐ͣ̾̚͟n̶ͪ̍ͭͪ͋ͧ͂͋̽̅͆ͦ͗͌͏̻͚̳͖͍̻̻͉̫͎g̡̫̜̫̮̳̦͕͔͉͎ͪ̿̈͌ͭ̅̃ͫ͒̊̃ͦ̊ͪ̆̂͠ͅ ̷̜̙̤̼͂̆̿̄̇̃̾̽̑̑̉̾͆̍͊͗͘ô̴̠̅̈́ͩ̾͒̃ͤͮ̈ͨ̓ < 1463240069 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͕̤̘̖̣̬̣̖̦̞̯̣͍̜̠̼f̷̧̣̩ͨ̌ͥͧͯ͒́̋͗͛̽̍̉ͤ͟͠͞ͅ ̨̨̊̓ͮ͌̈ͥ́̐̀̒͐ͮͪ͊̽̏̀ͬ̍͏̵̡̠̫̲͚͚̱͕̺̟̦͓̳c̷̗̻̱̦̩ͨ̽ͯ͌̑̽̅̊̌̅̕͠͡h̵̨͇͍͈̻̯͚̙̗̜͑ͭ̈́ͧ̋ͭͬ̉ͫ͆ͭ̚͢͝å͛͒ͬͨ̉̀͒͌ͣ͑̈́͘͏̘͈̥̟̦̝ơ̢̦̬̤̪̙̘̪̥̤͔̞͔̩̹̘͎͈͂ͭͩͦ̅̉ͫ̂ͧ͗ͭ̎͋̌ͬ͟͡͠s̴̴̛ͬ͗̋̓ͭͦ̿̅ͦ̏̀ͫ̊̒ͯ͊͑̈ͪ́ < 1463240069 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͖̙̙̠͈͞.̛ͩ̉ͧ͑͊̒̕͠҉̺̪̦̘̩ < 1463240070 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̧̨̨̙̟̞̯͔͓̤̞͙̗̹̞̱̝̭̗̽̾́ͯ̑ͥͩͭͦ̃̀͢W̵̵̢̼͉͍̝̽̂̾̅̈́̈̚͘ȋͩͪ̆͋ͣ̊ͤ̒̋̋̚͜͢͏̝̹͕͍̞͕̙͕͇̦͔̠̦ṯ̡̘͖̮̖̬͎̗ͦͧͮ̽͗͂ͩ̉̈̓ͭ̚͘͢ḥ̷̣̲̬̖̟̤̣͙̟͖̟̙̝̝̭̝̭̣̈̃̈͌͒͋̋ͦͫ͆̏̍́́͘ ̽ͣ͌ͦ̉͊ͣ̅͆ͬ̽͑҉̶̪̜͙̣̯̮̰̰̥ͅo̅̀ͩ͊̽̅͛̌ͧ̔͑ͮ̄͑̾͟͟͠͏͚͙̣̹̹̖͙̺̦̞̹̘̺u͛͂ < 1463240070 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :͐ͣ̐͏̧͔̗̘͔͔̝̼̘ť̂̐͗̋҉̸̧͇̻͓̝̙̣̫̗͇̩̝̠̲̀͘ͅͅ ͚͚͙̖̦̟̭̞̉́̎̇̂̌͑ͣ̀́͢o̷̧̺̬̠̝͕͙̙̲̰̼͚͔̺̫̣̻̽ͤͬ͗̑ͪͫrͦ̇͛ͧ̓͋̽̐ͪͣͤ̓ͭͨͩ̓҉̷̢͎͕̣̪͕͔̣̮̜͈͈̫̤̤̰͜͜ͅd̵̡̼̠̪̠͌͊̑̏ͬͥ͑ͬ̿ͨ̉̀ͮ̀̀̚̕ę͍͍̦̬̼͊̆̃̍͘͟͟͜r͕̲̖̫͕̪̫̪̗͖̼͕̠͑̈́ͥͪ̆ͦ͂̿̋͛̿͆͋̅̅̉̕͘͠.͆ͩ̎ͭ͂̎̊ͫ́̔̒̎͂ < 1463240071 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̛̝̦̟̻̣͖̩̥̫̗̤͝͝ͅ < 1463240081 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon... the smile is everywhere ﺕ < 1463240092 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice bracket smile < 1463240095 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always happy ﻖ < 1463240108 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loves butterflies ﻬ < 1463240112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: i'm very tempted to quiet you < 1463240115 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice unicode smiles using the smae trick i did for the zalgo text < 1463240126 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: check len < 1463240138 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len ﺕ < 1463240141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 codepoint \ 3 UTF-8 bytes < 1463240156 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might use that < 1463240157 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1463240190 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And moon__ was happy in his discovery of the Arabic Presentation Forms-B block, and did not continue spamming." < 1463240196 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"End narration." < 1463240211 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len 🇺🇸 < 1463240212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 codepoints \ 4 Java characters \ 8 UTF-8 bytes < 1463240222 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it doesn't recognize a grapheme here... < 1463240226 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -v < 1463240228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 (v5.14.2) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ (with 88 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) \ \ Copyright 1987-2011, Larry Wall \ \ Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the \ GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit < 1463240232 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1463240262 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̫̋ < 1463240265 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old Unicode database, oh well. < 1463240275 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 🇺🇸 < 1463240277 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F1FA REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER U \ UTF-8: f0 9f 87 ba UTF-16BE: d83cddfa Decimal: 🇺 \ 🇺 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+1F1F8 REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER S \ UTF-8: f0 9f 87 b8 UTF-16BE: d83cddf8 Decimal: 🇸 \ 🇸 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1463240286 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. So would it technically be a legal problem if I downloaded perl from hackego, and who would it be a legal problem for? < 1463240295 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me for downloading it... or HackEgo for not distributing source? < 1463240324 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is the source just somewhere I don't know about - perfectly possible) < 1463240331 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPL doesn't require the source code to be distributed, considering you don't get a binary. < 1463240338 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :But IANAL. < 1463240355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: If I downloaded HackEgo's perl binary, < 1463240374 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I would have a binary, wouldn't I? < 1463240390 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̫̋ ̈̌ < 1463240390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which perl < 1463240398 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote a program "utftovlq" (I think an old version may be installed on HackEgo) that can deal with UTF-8 and UTF-16 as well as other stuff too. < 1463240399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/perl < 1463240423 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on whether "downloading a binary from HackEgo" counts as conveying, but I don't want to check that, as I'm not a lawyer. < 1463240458 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like conveying ^.^; < 1463240469 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am not a lawyer either. < 1463240491 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By a series of pipes with utftovlq and wc you can do the same counting you did except for Unicode graphemes < 1463240555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: HackEgo's perl is not in a spot that you can normally download. you could get around it of course, but it's not intended to be. < 1463240583 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̮̈ < 1463240599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i suspect with all the cruft that's on it, HackEgo may already have plenty of copyright problems. < 1463240679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later, anyway < 1463240817 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̮̈ < 1463240818 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̴̮̘͔̰͙̽ͪ̔̓̃̊ͣ͛̽̈̿͒ͭ̎̌ͩ͝ < 1463240818 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̨͍̱̩͚̣̫͓͎̜̎̑͐̃͞ < 1463240818 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̶̴̬͓̫̣͎̬͈̮̖͈̟͕͔͇̔ͧ͑ͣ̑ͩͧ͛̐ͮ̿̇̎̐̽ͨ̄͑ͅͅ < 1463240818 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̸̈ͩͫͪͧ͂̈̎ͨͧ̓͑̑͘͢͡҉̜͇̙͔̣̼̗̯͍͉̯͓͉̖͉ < 1463240818 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̝̼̱͙̮͍͖̙̗̮̘͇̦̤̹̳͍̮͓̽ͬͦ́̅̽̈̈́͐̓ͧ̋̈́̅ͭ̄̎͘͘͢͡ < 1463240819 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̵̢͇̰̠̬̮̲̻̮͈͔͋́̏ͦͩͩ̅ͥ͢͟ͅ < 1463240819 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̴̢̮͖͔̯̻͙̼͖̪̰̲̟̦̘̩͙̅ͧͮ̃̍̆̅̊̄̅ͣ̄̾͛͌ < 1463240820 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̴̨̛͉̬̗̱̜͉͔̤̹̭͇̪͓̓ͯ̓̂̑ͭͧ̇̽̓ͭ͜ < 1463240820 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̸̨̰͕̜̪̪̖͔̺̮̲͓̪̘̳̻̯͎͛͗̾͌ͤ̑́ͭͣͦ̃̔ͨ̂ͭͮ̓̚̚͜ < 1463240821 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̸̬̻͇͇̯̲͎̫͔̔́͊̐ͮ͌ͪ̈́̂̉͞ < 1463240821 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̮̺̺̞̜̤̺̻̼̩̫̬̱̋͊̽̆̊̈́̑̀́ < 1463240822 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̵̸̵̫̲̝̦͍͈̙͕̩̺̱̬̣͆ͫ̿ͯͤ͒̾͑ͨ̕͢ͅͅ < 1463240822 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̤̤̲̭̭͚͚̥͓̗̰̤̮̆̀̐ͫ̾̉̋ͪͭ͛̄́͜͝ͅ < 1463240823 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̂̓͐ͣ̓̏̄͆ͦ͞͏̘̠̪͓̙͕̝̫̬̮̪̹̫͠ < 1463240825 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oop! wrong thing < 1463240837 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Playing around with unicode chars* < 1463241018 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.cpan.org/src/5.0/perl-5.22.2.tar.gz < 1463241043 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's somewhat of a bad idea. Whatever. < 1463241055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463241068 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have already started < 1463241084 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I realized that pretty sure configure script would be stopped in middle. < 1463241086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-14 14:51:07 URL:http://www.cpan.org/src/5.0/perl-5.22.2.tar.gz [15939581/15939581] -> "perl-5.22.2.tar.gz" [1] < 1463241091 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone wants me, I'll be busy hiding in a bunker < 1463241114 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar xf perl-5.22.tar.gz # Ah, whatever, I'm doing it anyway < 1463241116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: perl-5.22.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now < 1463241126 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar xf perl-5.22.2.tar.gz # Ah, whatever, I'm doing it anyway < 1463241210 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len is it locked? < 1463241224 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1463241246 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego is caught < 1463241280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 codepoints < 1463241302 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 40 & disown < 1463241309 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463241311 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Does disown prevent lock? < 1463241316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does disown prevent lock? < 1463241331 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux < 1463241333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND \ 0 1 0.5 0.1 1012 272 ? S 14:55 0:00 /init \ 0 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:55 0:00 [kthreadd] \ 0 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:55 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] \ 0 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? < 1463241337 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux | grep sleep < 1463241339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000 288 0.0 0.2 4180 620 ? S 14:55 0:00 sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' 'ps aux | grep sleep' | cat \ 5000 290 0.0 0.6 19136 1584 ? < 1463241345 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463241357 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux | grep sleep | wc -l < 1463241359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1463241362 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 400 & disown < 1463241364 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux | grep sleep | wc -l < 1463241366 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1463241372 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess not... < 1463241390 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep 1 ; echo It lives < 1463241394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241401 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 1 ; echo It lives < 1463241403 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lives < 1463241406 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1463241412 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sleep 1 isn't an insta-kill < 1463241432 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463241436 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 5 ; echo This will occur at 15:57:20 < 1463241444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This will occur at 15:57:20 < 1463241450 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok...? < 1463241461 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 10 ; echo Wait for it... < 1463241461 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 10 ; echo Wait for it... < 1463241462 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 10 ; echo Wait for it... < 1463241491 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you downloaded a new version of perl, only to not unpack and install it? < 1463241513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: A crime beyond belief, I'm sure... < 1463241513 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's already unpacked, but I do wonder how I prevent ./configure from locking the bot. < 1463241535 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if the bot locks? < 1463241549 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhm, why I don't get Wait for it response... < 1463241554 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 4 ; echo Wait for it... < 1463241554 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 4 ; echo Wait for it... < 1463241564 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego is busy < 1463241568 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop spamming him < 1463241574 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1463241578 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,4if the bot locks:then whoever owns the bot will probably kill xfix < 1463241612 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hopefully not really!) < 1463241627 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor owns it < 1463241633 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gregor has not been on in ages < 1463241667 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, in which case I retract my previous estimation of mortality. < 1463241696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait for it... < 1463241700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait for it... < 1463241748 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hunter returns with food and an empty quiver... err wallet. < 1463241754 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that sleep-300 locked up HE < 1463241754 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1463241756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1463241804 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd perl-5.22.2; ./Configure -d -Dprefix=/hackenv > /hackenv/logs < 1463241806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04invalid command ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) < 1463241809 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd perl-5.22.2; ./Configure -d -Dprefix=/hackenv > /hackenv/logs < 1463241879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463241885 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1463241886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ perl-5.22.2 \ perl-5.22.2.tar.gz \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1463241944 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, so here are logs... web interface is so slow... < 1463241960 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm clearly abusing Mercurial. < 1463241966 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackego lacks a web interface < 1463241972 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a internal one < 1463241977 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch and paste are the only ones < 1463241988 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1463241996 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik that one < 1463242004 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im talking about things like wget < 1463242018 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat logs < 1463242019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ Beginning of configuration questions for perl5. \ \ Checking echo to see how to suppress newlines... \ ...using \c \ The star should be here-->* \ \ First let's make sure your kit is complete. Checking... < 1463242047 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check if the logs cut < 1463242059 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego only lets programs run for a certain amount of time < 1463242079 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too slow... < 1463242092 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463242094 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stops at "First let's make sure your kit is complete. Checking..." < 1463242099 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd perl-5.22.2; nohup ./Configure -d -Dprefix=/hackenv > /hackenv/logs & < 1463242101 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that there's nothing in the file < 1463242104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463242126 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nohup < 1463242127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nohup: missing operand \ Try `nohup --help' for more information. < 1463242127 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1463242128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ perl-5.22.2 \ perl-5.22.2.tar.gz \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1463242138 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nohup --help < 1463242143 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls perl-5.22.2 < 1463242144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: nohup COMMAND [ARG]... \ or: nohup OPTION \ Run COMMAND, ignoring hangup signals. \ \ --help display this help and exit \ --version output version information and exit \ \ If standard input is a terminal, redirect it from /dev/null. \ If standard output is a terminal, append output to `nohup.out' if possible, \ `$HOME/n < 1463242145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Artistic \ asan_ignore \ AUTHORS \ autodoc.pl \ av.c \ av.h \ caretx.c \ cflags.SH \ Changes \ charclass_invlists.h \ config_h.SH \ configpm \ Configure \ configure.com \ configure.gnu \ cop.h \ Copying \ cpan \ Cross \ cv.h \ cygwin \ deb.c \ dist \ djgpp \ doio.c \ doop.c \ dosish.h \ dquote_static.c \ dump.c \ ebcdic_tables.h \ embed.fnc \ embed < 1463242153 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls perl-5.22.2/noh* < 1463242155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access perl-5.22.2/noh*: No such file or directory < 1463242185 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, clearly I need to compile for it. < 1463242207 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cross-compiling is annoying... < 1463242211 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1463242212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1463242219 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... < 1463242233 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :umlbox is a powerful sandboxer < 1463242305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 < 1463242307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU C Library (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38) stable release version 2.13, by Roland McGrath et al. \ Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. \ There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A \ PARTICULAR PURPOSE. \ Compiled by GNU CC version 4.4.7. \ Compiled on < 1463242354 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it was Debian, I was more curious about an architecture (x86_32 vs x86_64... or perhaps ARM, hehe) :) < 1463242377 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego runs debian underneath umlbox < 1463242381 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted the glibc version < 1463242452 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth would libc be executable...? < 1463242456 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1463242485 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) to confuse people < 1463242506 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) to give an easy way to find out its version (useful) and license (not so much) < 1463242512 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries executing a few other libraries as programs and just gets segmentation faults < 1463242533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1463242538 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no reason for it to not be an executable. < 1463242539 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it's a special feature < 1463242540 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they did it. < 1463242584 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than bundling some sort of glibc-info executable. < 1463242594 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1463242597 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :(other than making the program huge, but I doubt GNU were concerned about that, considering how many features glibc has) < 1463242611 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"huge" < 1463242644 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you need to store a license string. < 1463242656 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463242664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how much of the 1.7 MB file... don't answer that. < 1463242697 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if it's GPLV3, then expect it to take up 85.3% of the file < 1463242707 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a guess) < 1463243143 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cricets* < 1463243184 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crickets* < 1463243330 0 :moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463243356 0 :Taneb!?@? NICK :eurovisionsongco < 1463243360 0 :eurovisionsongco!?@? NICK :Taneb < 1463243778 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls perl* < 1463243780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl-5.22.2.tar.gz \ \ perl-5.22.2: \ Artistic \ asan_ignore \ AUTHORS \ autodoc.pl \ av.c \ av.h \ caretx.c \ cflags.SH \ Changes \ charclass_invlists.h \ config_h.SH \ configpm \ Configure \ configure.com \ configure.gnu \ cop.h \ Copying \ cpan \ Cross \ cv.h \ cygwin \ deb.c \ dist \ djgpp \ doio.c \ doop.c \ dosish.h \ dquote_static.c \ dump. < 1463243790 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo perl* < 1463243791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl-5.22.2 perl-5.22.2.tar.gz < 1463243793 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r perl* < 1463243805 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463243812 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r perl* # if at first you don't succeed... < 1463243825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: remove write-protected regular file `perl-5.22.2/pp_pack.c'? < 1463243832 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf perl* < 1463243860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463243862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463243870 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf perl* < 1463243871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463243878 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo perl* < 1463243879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl* < 1463244093 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg update f698aeafd7ca < 1463244094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: could not lock working directory of /hackenv: Read-only file system < 1463244105 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert f698aeafd7ca < 1463244116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1463244119 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1463244129 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhoh! < 1463244149 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, it said "Done.", so it might be fine < 1463244159 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I reverted too much... < 1463244163 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len 1 < 1463244164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: len: not found < 1463244169 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert fd90e11cc6b9 < 1463244171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1463244173 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len 1 < 1463244175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 codepoint < 1463244217 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo echo | tee shirt < 1463244221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo < 1463244239 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm shirt < 1463244243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463244269 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463244283 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is confusing < 1463244292 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm shirt < 1463244293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `shirt': No such file or directory < 1463244295 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, indeed. < 1463244325 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real question is... is the reason it's confusing for me, the same as the reason for you? < 1463244342 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run :(){ :|:& };: < 1463244343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463244366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...trying to forkbomb it? < 1463244371 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff bin/\` bin/run < 1463244372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,4c1 \ < #!/bin/bash \ < TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ < shopt -s extglob globstar \ < eval -- "$1" | rnooodl \ --- \ > echo run run run < 1463244396 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` help < 1463244397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) \ These shell commands are defined internally. Type `help' to see this list. \ Type `help name' to find out more about the function `name'. \ Use `info bash' to find out more about the shell in general. \ Use `man -k' or `info' to find out more about commands not in this list. \ \ A star ( < 1463244400 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` run < 1463244401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run run < 1463244403 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/` < 1463244404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1463244404 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful. < 1463244407 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/\` < 1463244408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnoooooodl < 1463244419 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1463244420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run run < 1463244426 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/run < 1463244427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo run run run < 1463244445 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` echo sorry < 1463244446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1463244527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater! < 1463244537 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1463244538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5quote \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ benvenuto \ bf \ bff \ bienvenido \ bienvenue \ bin \ b < 1463244545 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`autowelcome < 1463244546 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autowelcome disabled. < 1463244547 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rabbit run rabbit run run run, don't let the farmer get his fun... < 1463244548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1463244581 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rabbit run rabbit run run run, don't let the farmer get his fun... He'll get by, without his rabbit pie, so run rabbit run rabbit run run run... < 1463244582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: rabbit: command not found < 1463244604 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1463244605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop taking everything literally! < 1463244623 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` run is a joke for people who don't know that `run is a builtin hackego command < 1463244624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1463244632 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` run < 1463244633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run run < 1463244648 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd < 1463244649 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` run ABCD < 1463244649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04invalid command ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) < 1463244650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run run < 1463244653 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` run >.> < 1463244655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `run >.>' < 1463244657 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1463244663 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what is happening < 1463244669 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`if < 1463244670 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: if: not found < 1463244693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: try typing "run >.>" into bash < 1463244712 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/if//bash -c "if $@" < 1463244713 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463244716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/if < 1463244724 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I suspect it will wipe my HDD. < 1463244731 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> run >.> < 1463244731 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' < 1463244733 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:8: < 1463244733 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1463244737 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1463244737 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463244742 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I knew that before hand, but asking me to put it into bash told me < 1463244743 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`if true; then echo Hi.; else Uh oh.; fi < 1463244744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1463244748 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`if false; then echo Hi.; else Uh oh.; fi < 1463244749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: Uh: command not found < 1463244755 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`if false; then echo Hi.; else echo Uh oh.; fi < 1463244756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. < 1463244859 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language < 1463244860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1463244863 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language c < 1463244864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Segfault! < 1463244870 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language c++ < 1463244871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463244881 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language bytepusher < 1463244882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463244882 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language english < 1463244883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463244912 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language php < 1463244913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wello! < 1463244917 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language python < 1463244919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxERR < 1463244920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to get around to writing a BytePusher Brainfuck interpreter < 1463244926 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language shakespeare < 1463244928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye Olde Hello Worlde < 1463244936 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language java < 1463244939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory overflow < 1463244947 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language brainfuck < 1463244948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERR Tape end reached < 1463244951 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1463244960 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language chef < 1463244962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combine the computer and the water in the mixing bowl. < 1463244970 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems it is not designed to give serious answers < 1463244983 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language hello-world-in-any-language < 1463244984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463244985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language intercal < 1463244986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463244998 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Z-Machine < 1463244999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463244999 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: ITYM "PLEASE DONT GIVE UP" < 1463245002 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language infocom < 1463245003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language z < 1463245005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245019 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language shafuck < 1463245020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245035 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language glass < 1463245036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245039 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language malbolge < 1463245040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language deadfish < 1463245044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245044 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo PLEASE DONT GIVE UP > hw/intercal < 1463245045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1463245049 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo PLEASE DONT GIVE UP > hw/intercal < 1463245052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463245060 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language intercal < 1463245062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE DONT GIVE UP < 1463245084 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1463245130 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language perl < 1463245131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245211 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a moment, gonna obfuscate some program. < 1463245421 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRINTI "Hello, World!" QUIT < 1463245459 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is how you do in Z-machine codes; this example is too much oversimplify of course) < 1463245481 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://gist.githubusercontent.com/xfix/2ece5662a831b7a42ce24df4ce9cf91a/raw/975e303bb7836b3ff3242219aac3fa3aae4833cb/gistfile1.txt < 1463245489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-14 16:04:46 URL:https://gist.githubusercontent.com/xfix/2ece5662a831b7a42ce24df4ce9cf91a/raw/975e303bb7836b3ff3242219aac3fa3aae4833cb/gistfile1.txt [212/212] -> "gistfile1.txt" [1] < 1463245496 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv gistfile1.txt hw/perl < 1463245497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `gistfile1.txt hw/perl' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1463245504 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv gistfile1.txt hw/perl < 1463245508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463245512 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language perl < 1463245513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval eval'"'.('['^'+').('['^')').('`'|')').('`'|'.').('['^'/').'\\'.'"'.('`'^'(').('`'|'%').('`'|',').('`'|',').('`'|'/').','.('{'^'[').('['^',').('`'|'/').('['^')').('`'|',').('`'|'$').'.'.('!'^'+').'\\'.'"'.'"' < 1463245638 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you know, I don't like it. < 1463245640 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( bless {}, $you ) < 1463245663 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Just another Perl hacker > hw/perl < 1463245667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463245667 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's better. < 1463245679 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Perl < 1463245681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just another Perl hacker < 1463245715 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Just another Perl hacker, > hw/perl < 1463245717 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Perl < 1463245719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463245720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just another Perl hacker, < 1463245726 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now there is a comma. < 1463245731 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1463245733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :php is the PigeonHole Principle < 1463245736 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Haskell < 1463245737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your language does not exist < 1463245738 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perl < 1463245739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1463245745 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emacs < 1463245746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1463245749 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nano < 1463245751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nano is vi's sister. < 1463245753 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vi < 1463245755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi is in a relationship with emacs. < 1463245761 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? notepad < 1463245763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463245765 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the obfuscated version better < 1463245825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hakase < 1463245826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hakase? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463245836 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Couldn\'t match type \`IO \(\)\' with \`[Char]\' > hw/haskell < 1463245839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463245839 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1463245841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1463245843 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1463245843 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language Haskell < 1463245844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't match type `IO ()' with `[Char]' < 1463245844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463245859 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough :). < 1463245921 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463245925 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? farbfeld < 1463245926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farbfeld? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463245961 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want obfuscation... < 1463245981 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'say\tQ[@A`DO world!]~|' > hw/perl6 < 1463245984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463245991 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello-world-in-any-language perl6 < 1463245992 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say Q[@A`DO world!]~| < 1463246435 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: FOWL CHICKEN < 1463247448 0 :Taneb!?@? NICK :eurofederalist < 1463247500 0 :eurofederalist!?@? NICK :Taneb < 1463247508 0 :Taneb!?@? NICK :EuroTaneb < 1463247525 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463247717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :II < 1463248121 0 :kragniz!?@? NICK :euroniz < 1463248400 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented many methods for reducing a picture to a specified palette; what methods did I miss? < 1463248475 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm pretty sure you missed the "ask the artist of the picture to do it for you" method... (I can't see any list of methods here, so I'm going with what I think you're most likely to miss) < 1463248515 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: That is separate though so it doesn't count < 1463248538 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but again, I can't see a list of methods, so... < 1463248579 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463248674 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will tell you what I have though: non-dithered, ordered dither, error diffusion, closest by sum, closest by sum weighted by input values, closest by sum of squares of differences, random dither, penalties for choosing a palette index, Yliluoma's method, sum of squares weighted by channel. < 1463248791 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the methods I have < 1463248793 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... a lot. < 1463248850 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and also hold-and-modify < 1463248906 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you weight the randomness based upon how far the target colour is from the nearest available colour? < 1463248919 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The size of the palette can be up to 1024. You can specify a separate dithering mode and best-colour mode, and optionally hold-and-modify. < 1463248927 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463248946 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It is weighted by user-defined values; currently it doesn't check what colours are available to weight the randomness by < 1463248958 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phew* < 1463248984 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't recognize most of those dithering methods, TBH. < 1463249043 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all of them are dithering methods, some are methods to select nearest colour, which can be used in combination with any dithering method (including no dithering). < 1463249062 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weighting-randomness thing is something I used when trying to convert images to BytePusher, but I'm doing it per-channel. < 1463249166 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think BytePusher uses Netscape palette, and the user-defined weights should be sufficient for this purpose. < 1463249246 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the trouble is that if a colour is exactly on the mark, you won't want to randomly push it, and if a colour is between two colours, you'll want a 50% chance either way. < 1463249276 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So unless "user-defined weights" suggests a quite complicated weighting system where the user can set something like that up... < 1463249458 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the methods for "closest colour" is to use the one with the closest RGB values which are all no greater than the input value. You can then set a positive weight of 0x3200 and negative weight of 0x0000 and I expect it would work. < 1463249496 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is farbfeld, so all of these utilities work with 16-bits per channel, although the file you read/write may be a different format.) < 1463249623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The files I input are: anything readable by Java ImageIO in theory, but usually PNG. It's part of the compiler, so the output is simply part of the resulting BytePusher program) < 1463249651 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So farbfeld would probably end up being an external build step. < 1463249674 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is the complicated way of saying "yet another line in a shell script") < 1463249702 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea is that you would usually pipe farbfeld and not actually need to store farbfeld pictures on disk. < 1463250076 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Java ImageIO because I don't use Java, although I suppose that is how you do in Java. < 1463250174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I do not have is a program to generate an optimized palette; I should add a program to do that too, if I can know what methods would need and how to do it < 1463250317 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, one idea might be to try looking for the most "diverse" colours... < 1463250365 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, create a set of all the colours in the image, and pick one based on what is furthest from any you've already selected. Start with the most common colour. < 1463250394 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("most common" would probably be worked out by averaging all colours in the image, then finding the closest. Just let it be arbitrary failing that...) < 1463250542 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463250569 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? draft < 1463250570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :draft? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463250574 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bat < 1463250575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463250580 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wumpus < 1463250581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wumpus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463250591 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463250597 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cue int-e writing in entries for those 3* < 1463250608 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463250701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could start with one method and then add support for other methods later on < 1463251220 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@75.187.129.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463251407 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: curse your reverse psychology < 1463251415 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? writer's block < 1463251417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writer's block? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463251699 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1463251701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. < 1463251715 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cue int-e not ever writing in entries for those 3* < 1463251749 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the rule of reverse psychology you've got to write them now < 1463251784 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :has this ever worked for you? < 1463251801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1463251804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1463251849 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still plotting to get revenge on the person who wrote that... < 1463251853 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BWUHAHAHHAHAHAHA! < 1463251893 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so, yeah, revenge! < 1463251934 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1463251937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1463252176 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the program "bitff" can read 256-colours paletted pictures (it previously only supported 2-colours, 4-colours, or 16-colours). < 1463252388 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get "I. N." < 1463252435 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int-e: I think I said something along the lines of me being the mad scientist "Insert Name Here".) < 1463252456 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int-e: It was not meant to be taken literally, but whoever wrote that entry had a sense of humour...) < 1463252465 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/gamemanj < 1463252467 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1463252496 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program is used to read raw paletted pictures in many formats (it also supports GameBoy format, Famicom format, PC format, packed format, etc); I will also add "ffbit" program to write raw paletted pictures too. < 1463252520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yay! < 1463252599 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You will have to use ff-reduce first if you < 1463252618 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You will have to use ff-reduce first if the picture is not already in the required palette) < 1463252748 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: | ff-reduce | ffbit < 1463253089 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the first part would be a conversion into farbfeld (my package includes a "pngff" program which can be used for that purpose if the input is PNG) < 1463253233 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently zzo38's "Munching Squares" program is the first "real" program I've tried in my tracer that doesn't cause it to infinitely suck up CPU. Now just to hope that it actually produced correct output... < 1463253269 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it resemble the screenshot? < 1463253292 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the tracer doesn't run the program as such, it analyses it. < 1463253299 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way in future I could write an AOT compiler for BytePusher. < 1463253310 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, in theory < 1463253327 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and obviously any program which heavily self-modifies is going to kill the tracer) < 1463253352 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Was it you who mentioned the esolangs.org expiration? I sent a mail to the Dipert to maybe transfer it over, so it's *possible* we'll avoid it expiring this year. If we're very lucky. < 1463253486 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Does the code resemble your code if you look at it funny? http://hastebin.com/omabanuloh.txt < 1463253513 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and apparently my quickly written format documentation is off in a few places, VMI jumps to address stored in 2, etc. < 1463253615 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm pretty sure the tracer's broken. I say that because I don't see any type-A addresses (aka. indirect accesses) < 1463253659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463253702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes that was me < 1463253706 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and the occasional advance_cc's missing, because I forgot to add the advance_cc/advance_cc_cvmi on fallthrough... < 1463253709 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks for the update < 1463253735 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and taking the initiative :) < 1463253833 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly; you can look at my code http://zzo38computer.org/prog/BytePusher/Munching_Squares.pushem < 1463254013 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at that code, I should definitely be seeing Type-A addresses. Hmm. < 1463254240 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463254532 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463254581 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see where the tracer went massively wrong, too - 0x0C's instruction is ld #8 / st #17 / jp #15, so #15 not using lda is a pretty obvious sign that something went wrong... < 1463254592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463255959 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463255966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :EuroTaneb: Are you having some sort of a big thing about the thing? < 1463255977 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing™ < 1463256359 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now it's back to sucking an infinite amount of CPU... < 1463256556 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xluegwvnujpaxlsx JOIN :#esoteric < 1463256940 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1463257021 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1463257040 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1463257040 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1463257040 0 :devhydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1463257087 0 :devhydraz!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1463259034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463259060 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463259209 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463259388 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone give a "well done" to zzo38, so apparently there's a really large amount of different states that 22 instructions can be in... < 1463259520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I found out the reason it always sucks an infinite amount of CPU - something went horribly wrong with the "union" operator and instead of analysing the code, it runs it. < 1463259541 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail! < 1463259561 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's more, it runs it in an extremely inefficient fashion since the code is designed to keep an eye on possible values for data. < 1463259582 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a byte is actually 256 booleans of which one happens to be selected... < 1463259754 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, when the final "write out code that could be used for an AOT" is triggered, it interprets these as immediate value copies - constant addresses - etc... < 1463259791 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus no type-A addresses. < 1463259846 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in essence: 1. My code is a complete failure, 2. zzo38 can do a lot in 22 instructions of BytePusher, 3. My code is a complete failure. < 1463260111 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"munching squares"? < 1463260244 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. I was trying to analyze zzo38's program as a test run. It... didn't work. < 1463260295 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffice to say my analyzer would be great for heating up a room. < 1463260386 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing is, it has to hit all available states for a byte in case that byte is then later used in a jump instruction. < 1463260441 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it supposed to do? < 1463260475 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially convert a BytePusher program's code into a format more suitable for AOT compilation. < 1463260535 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means it has to be capable of handling all the various methods of self-modification BytePusher programs use. < 1463260725 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously some things will inevitably result in a complete crash of the compiler (an actual JIT in BytePusher for example)... < 1463260769 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for reasonable programs, it should be possible. < 1463260839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463261144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463261181 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Wumpus the Hunted is an early 70s action game in which the Wumpus is trapped in a dodecahedral labyrinth where it's chased by bats. It has to avoid traps and evade magical arrows that are guided by a nefarious AI. < 1463261184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wumpu': Wumpus the Hunted is an early 70s action game in which the Wumpus is trapped in a dodecahedral labyrinth where it's chased by bats. It has to avoid traps and evade magical arrows that are guided by a nefarious AI. < 1463261391 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. An instruction is always updated with the union - there are always more possibilities, never less, and the system stops when it is equal. So if I can find a way to only use CPU time on new possibilities... < 1463261403 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I hope you're happy now (re: wumpus) < 1463261415 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: wumpu. < 1463261548 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I am :) < 1463261558 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You didn't have to, though) < 1463261567 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1463261619 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more reverse psychology?! ;-) ) < 1463261670 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: see also http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2009/07/16 < 1463261675 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do not do what this says: Do not stand on your head singing "I Can't Decide".) < 1463261687 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Good luck working out the logic on that one) < 1463261714 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't decide. < 1463261725 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not singing.) < 1463261743 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are you standing on your head? < 1463261764 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-46-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463261770 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your perspective < 1463261798 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, are you in the southern hemisphere? If so, then you are standing on the ceiling with magical boots. < 1463261803 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you are not standing on your head. < 1463261807 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know. < 1463261817 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1463261827 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this backfired) < 1463261924 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that M:tG has a few Wumpus cards. < 1463261939 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-46-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463262023 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION places down a crooked arrow card (WARNING: PERSON WHO DOES NOT KNOW M:TG RULES IN AREA. EXPECT INCORRECT FAKE PLAY.) < 1463262238 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card Wumpus < 1463262240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hunted Wumpus \ 3G \ Creature -- Beast \ 6/6 \ When Hunted Wumpus enters the battlefield, each other player may put a creature card from his or her hand onto the battlefield. \ MM-U, 8ED-U, 9ED-U, 10E-U < 1463262248 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :would incorrect fake play be accidently valid play? < 1463262271 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, accidentally valid play would be correct fake play < 1463262286 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incorrect fake play would be incidentally invalid play < 1463262491 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onion skin. < 1463262534 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463262551 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep hearing the lyrics of this Georgia song like that. < 1463262557 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's actually "on your skin" or some-such. < 1463262571 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this still going on < 1463262589 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 competitors, it takes a while. < 1463262647 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're at #24 already, so it's almost over. < 1463262671 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the ESC (European Screeching Cacophony)? < 1463262688 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else? < 1463262692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former. < 1463262721 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if they keep inviting Australia along, I don't know how long they can retain the name. < 1463262739 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, just make Australia part of the E.U. Problem solved. < 1463262853 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isreal and Iceland are in there too < 1463262862 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Russia. < 1463262865 0 :lambda-calc!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463262889 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iceland is geologically interesting, hmm) < 1463262892 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so why exactly is it called "Eurovision"??? < 1463262905 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's still organized by the EBU. < 1463262919 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463262938 0 :lambda-calc!?@? NICK :lambda-11235 < 1463262956 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course that's just bringing up the question why it's the EBU.) < 1463262982 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eurovision (founded 1954 in Geneva, Switzerland) is part of the European Broadcasting Union" (the song contest goes back to 1956) < 1463262999 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so normal branding, not a mystery < 1463263001 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION removes all 'E's from reality < 1463263009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1463263012 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved < 1463263025 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, gammanji < 1463263025 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching the Urovision Song Contest here. < 1463263032 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contst < 1463263034 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, yes. < 1463263042 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Where'd the "i" come from??? < 1463263069 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't know. < 1463263095 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some exposure to japanese perhaps) < 1463263097 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're trying to find a way to convert my name to "kanji"... good luck, here, have this compass and 5 days of rations, since you'll probably need them as you try (and fail) < 1463263283 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best you'll manage is γ字 < 1463263297 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is nowhere near the correct pronounciation... < 1463263399 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Japanese the standard thing would be transcribing into katakana, not into kanji-used-phonetically. < 1463263406 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're in, like, 1600. < 1463263456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, living without "" will annoy many anglistics majors by making writing a task fraught with significant hardships. < 1463263507 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will also annoy NtHack players, because they can't write a certain useful thing. < 1463263561 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ironically, linguistic obliviousity is good for usability. < 1463263699 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazing that transmitting thoughts without that particular glyph works at all. < 1463263728 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translating fizzi's annotation: It will also annoy NtHack actors, for usability and sanity impacts occur from a lacking of Lbrth. < 1463263745 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I could add "using" to that without violating any constraints. < 1463263774 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :' prfr jst 'mttng 'll 'f th vwls frm my sntncs; 't sms t wrk wll sns ntbl 'ffrt. < 1463263813 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may not look that way but actually it is hard to maintain this way of writing. < 1463263822 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :' bt. < 1463263827 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you added the glotal stop < 1463263889 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wll, yh. Wtht 't ths 's 'vn hrdr t 'ndrstnd. :) < 1463263890 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elbereth? < 1463263899 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>.>) < 1463263902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1463263905 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you ruined it!) < 1463263905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has crossed a line < 1463263908 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...ok, not really) < 1463263908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Social Autopsy" < 1463263913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lud < 1463263916 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 10h 49m 44s ago: Good, good. < 1463263928 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Message I was writing before giving up: Actually, I would confirm in a habitual tone, but it < 1463264046 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I would confirm in a habitual positionary, but such blockings start to inhibit proper discussion. < 1463264081 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad. *nods in approval* < 1463264110 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it got awkward around the "positionary" part. < 1463264127 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/words such as/ < 1463264132 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ part// < 1463264143 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but "inhibit proper discussion" turned it around, because it stressed the point. < 1463264163 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose :) < 1463264180 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all in all, good job. < 1463264209 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "blockings" should probably be "obstructions" < 1463264349 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, using simplistic words allows producing writings of this kind without too much difficulty. But the product usually sounds unnatural.) < 1463264358 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the" :) < 1463264366 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION failes. < 1463264401 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try "resulting products" < 1463264421 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not falling for that. < 1463264427 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463264434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was! < 1463264441 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or I wouldn't have suggested it) < 1463264458 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, try "output products usually sound unnatural" < 1463264966 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :works for m... this human. < 1463265046 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salutations. this humanoid hails from mars. groupings on mars want humanity in ruins. Mwu. ha. ha. ha. < 1463265094 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463265130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463265237 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you could just wait. humanity will soon ruin its own. < 1463265273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it so hard to stop doing this... < 1463265286 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is now natural to you. < 1463265361 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot stop. You now slowly turn into an addict... of avoiding a . < 1463265377 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463265398 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An addict of avoiding that specific point in char-land. < 1463265483 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "glyph" was okay. < 1463265510 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glyph has implications of archaic origin, no? < 1463265555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you spy that "specific" fail? < 1463265562 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1463265567 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION failed < 1463265585 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it is implications, and "glyph" still works for such purposes. < 1463265586 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1463265590 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH < 1463265595 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making tons of mistakes right now < 1463265605 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plurals are so innocent < 1463265628 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rv2."Though it is implications, and "glyph" still works for such a situation." < 1463265673 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "symbol" would have been perfect. < 1463265707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's generic but it has no archaic or arcane connotations. < 1463265882 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'std::out_of_range' i hate it when vectors do this >_> < 1463266140 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Glyph" is also a technical term used when discussing text encoding and rendering. < 1463266158 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, the Unicode standard uses it extensively when talking about glyphs. < 1463266172 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's probably a good choice TBH. < 1463266174 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode contains "E"! < 1463266177 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's evil! < 1463266193 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why yes, it encodes U'E'. < 1463266195 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see, you can tell "e" is evil because "evil" contains "e") < 1463266224 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And U'e', and even U'ë'! < 1463266229 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo < 1463266683 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463268388 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:dd3e:839:957a:9d04 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463269019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463269382 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. chat < 1463269418 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't expect much when the Urovision's going on. (Although it's just ending.) < 1463269731 0 :euroniz!?@? NICK :kragniz < 1463269776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1463269786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1463269812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that doesn't look entirely messed up < 1463269844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you unretired < 1463269929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : but gregor has not been on in ages <-- it's ok me or fizzie can do the killing hth < 1463269948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, just disturbed that someone considered actually installing perl in the sandbox < 1463269974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this all ready to go: `` sed -i 's/retired/infamous/' wisdom/oerjan < 1463269995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose _if_ it had been messed up, i could have done some charity work `reverting. < 1463270015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which perl < 1463270020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it not charity work before retirement < 1463270021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/perl < 1463270033 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: s/retired/emeritus/ hth < 1463270049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going out on a limb and saying they probably did not succeed. < 1463270073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do it hth < 1463270080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think emeritus needs to come last. < 1463270093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1463270098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1463270105 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess it's more "mysterious evil cackling overlord emeritus". < 1463270108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :øverlørd emeritus < 1463270156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realize you had retired from all overlording < 1463270164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed it was just HackEgo janitorial work < 1463270165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point. < 1463270210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1463270218 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1463270471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you have both a king and an overlord < 1463270513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the overlord overthrows the king, duh < 1463270542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the underlord undermine the overlord < 1463270554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLASPHEMY < 1463270584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the overlord cannot be undermined. as long as no one finds the self destruct button, anyway. < 1463270640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that big red with the "don't push if you want to live" sign. < 1463270647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*red one < 1463270772 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463270869 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463270892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :phoily! < 1463270902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 in a day, progress!) < 1463270921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sort of a day < 1463271205 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heŀŀœrjan! it's still the same day in Canadaland hth < 1463271227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly! < 1463271455 0 :EuroTaneb!?@? NICK :Taneb < 1463271861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Britain has both queen and parliament... < 1463271889 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure a king and an overlord could come to a similar arrangement.) < 1463272095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1463272105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1463272280 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463272378 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463272460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wumpu < 1463272464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wumpus the Hunted is an early 70s action game in which the Wumpus is trapped in a dodecahedral labyrinth where it's chased by bats. It has to avoid traps and evade magical arrows that are guided by a nefarious AI. < 1463272477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/wumpu{,s} < 1463272488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463272503 0 :moon__!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463272503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( this messes up culprit identification :( ) < 1463272506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/wumpu < 1463272514 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 8059:4b82b9fd65f0 \ user: HackBot \ date: Sat May 14 20:26:22 2016 +0000 \ summary: learn Wumpus the Hunted is an early 70s action game in which the Wumpus is trapped in a dodecahedral labyrinth where it\'s chased by bats. It has to avoid traps and evade magical arrows that are guided by a nefarious AI. < 1463272529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/wumpus < 1463272543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1463272546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would `hg mv` do better, if it was an option? < 1463272554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1463272582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not an option, anyway. < 1463272620 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463272623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying that that's vacuöusly true < 1463272634 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463272635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that vacuoüsly < 1463272637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1463272703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Germany's Jamie-Lee is the biggest argument I've seen for the big five to have their automatic entry to the final removed." ... that bad, eh... < 1463272724 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. I believe it's vauöusly hth < 1463272766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm skeptical hth < 1463272779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*skeptial < 1463272792 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*skëptial < 1463272813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sqëptial, demonym for albanian. < 1463272941 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463273073 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463273121 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already forgot what Germany had. < 1463273136 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh, right, *that*. < 1463273165 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it did get the least amount of points. < 1463273168 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463273229 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This year they announced the jury votes and the audience votes separately, which was interesting. Especially when Poland got like 7 points from the juries, and 222 from the audience. < 1463273259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm a bit surprised the Wikipedia table doesn't currently *show* them separately, but I'm sure someone'll improve it.) < 1463273499 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463273614 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@75.187.129.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463273896 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2016 lists them separately at least < 1463274163 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Curiously, it's entirely missing points for the first semifinal, but it has the second one. < 1463274197 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny < 1463274253 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-46-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463274412 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463274629 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :who won < 1463274656 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ukraine < 1463274701 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://rageclub.net/~nortti/ul.py.txt < 1463274764 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ underload-y interpreter, in 255B < 1463274979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-y"? < 1463275037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1463275344 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't quite fit all of underload in 255B, sadly < 1463275381 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463275387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"KamLAND-Zen is a group of buddhist monks studying a balloon filled with the xenon isotope Xe136." < 1463275529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks maybe there was a joke in there. < 1463275746 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zen is inscrutable. As the Great Master fungot once said unto his disciples... < 1463275746 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the compiler sources aren't touched when you usually build up a list < 1463275765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu. < 1463276129 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Five of diamonds arched back intended far-seeing size xanthoma, watering bicostate Envelope Logistics®. Commissional, the boozing speech nontronite navigates visions of verbarspermophyta. Dietine overlooker seining, waddywood breathes, full breaths, malacostracology evident. Trip hammer, trip hammer, trip hammer, trip hammer. < 1463276131 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :- V❊H❊Q❊H, V❊H❊Q❊H < 1463276331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463276344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching VSauce's video "What is the greatest honou?r" < 1463276359 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me want to invent awards < 1463276437 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vsauce is neat < 1463276470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Bertrand Russell Award for Not Having a Bertrand Russell Award < 1463276508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for it to work, we must count a person as a set of awards, and awards as the set of people who have been granted it) < 1463276528 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-46-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463276543 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1], fellowl. < 1463276544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it makes you uncomfortable, a person can be a tuple containing the set of awards, among other things) < 1463276552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1463276605 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should give an award made of wood inoculated with spores of a GMO mushroom that grows into the shape of an award. < 1463276718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ooooh < 1463276735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My Bertrand Russell award is funny, right? < 1463276779 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was quite funny < 1463276793 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good award. < 1463276795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, good < 1463276815 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tautological award, that is given because you deserve it. < 1463276831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, but the wording needs to change < 1463276845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Tautology Award for Receiving a Tautology Award < 1463276857 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better. < 1463276877 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463276881 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I want an Awardmushroom Award. what does it taste like? ) < 1463277343 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :its taste should be awarding (not to say rewarding). < 1463277366 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi int-e. did you get some new result on laver tables? < 1463277419 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing new... I can prove that we actually get shelves... < 1463277456 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i see... < 1463277459 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have proved maybe half of that in Isabelle. < 1463277590 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :laver tables and mushroomy awards: a vegetarian dashi. < 1463277947 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463278118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reals = 1D < 1463278121 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complexes = 2D < 1463278142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quaternions = 4D, Octonions = 8D, Sedenions = 16D < 1463278172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also heard of some sort of Hexions = 6D, but there aren't any useful Trinions = 3D < 1463278189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463278198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go in weirder directions < 1463278210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unit = 0D < 1463278228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? = -1D < 1463278254 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[EXPUNGED] < 1463278395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION names ALL the sets of numbers < 1463278417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also gives many of them nice blackboard bold symbols < 1463278553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1D is the empty set hth < 1463278767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/negative+thinking hth < 1463278825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, that makes sense < 1463278866 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:f0ad:ea5a:6ac9:6931 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463279614 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f JOIN :#esoteric < 1463279725 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463279734 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463279777 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463279828 0 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463280097 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463280277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1463280296 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAA? < 1463280306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOCLOOOOG < 1463280313 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463280341 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1463280348 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463280354 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1463280364 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1463280365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly ponders the wisdom of idling in the channel < 1463280388 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will update the wisdom when he gets home. probably Monday, if he has time. < 1463280462 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463280521 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a friend of mine in university showed me an esoteric language which was similar to befunge, except that your code was segmented into connected components, "rafts" which could be pushed around as the program ran by appropriate instructions. < 1463280533 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the name of it, I wonder if anyone would recognise it < 1463280543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone adapted FFF to work for less traditional units? < 1463280557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not traditional < 1463280557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyday < 1463280557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, what's an FFF pascal? < 1463280608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there are now just 3 confirmed living people born in the 19th century. < 1463280719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose Fahrenheit should be included < 1463280723 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: one ounce per furlong per fortnight per fortnight? < 1463280743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That works < 1463280760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 m/s/s/s (8 m/s^3) < 1463280920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: well no relevant hits on "raft" or "rafts" on the wiki < 1463280966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rings a bell, but do something with moving pieces and otherwise not very befungey, which i also have forgotten the name of < 1463280971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to something < 1463281009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm pretty sure Fahrenheit died long ago hth < 1463281014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1463281037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You clearly have not been to America < 1463281048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i have < 1463281062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well you didn't pay attention < 1463281063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :three times < 1463281066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was born here < 1463281080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And I have managed to condition myself to use SI units automatically < 1463281081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, four. < 1463281112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although two of them were passing through on the one trip) < 1463281127 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But I haven't been able to shake Fahrenheit; I simply can't take a temperature in Celsius and lookup about how warm it is < 1463281149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :below 0 is freezing, above 100 is boiling hth < 1463281158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well duh < 1463281214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I simply always think in terms of Fahrenheit; if you tell me it's 30 degrees Celsius, at best I will do the conversion, at worst I'll ask you to give me the temperature again < 1463281235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, I live in alaska, so usually the temperature is just "cold", but when I DO use temperature it's always Fahrenheit < 1463281256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone feel like deriving weird units? < 1463281262 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: SHOTGUN CHICKEN < 1463281285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend inverse femtobarns, those are pretty weird. < 1463281288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Kirk is used for measuring space dilation and clocks in at 1 meter/meter < 1463281303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can also be used for speed for those that hate everyone around them < 1463281380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are the obvious, like Wolfram for ego and Hitler for evil. < 1463281404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wolfram for ego? < 1463281419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, I was going for SI-derived units < 1463281427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was well-established. < 1463281475 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tesla. i mean, it's already SI but _damn_. < 1463281598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Contains only free ranging moons | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | The overdone city meme has RISEN from is burial place in Truth or Consequences (not Hot Springs) in search of BRAINS < 1463281608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Contains only free ranging moons | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | The overdone city meme has RISEN from its burial place in Truth or Consequences (not Hot Springs) in search of BRAINS < 1463282031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: It wouldn't happen to be Funciton, would it? < 1463282082 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1463282413 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was one character per instruction in a 2D grid, and when the program was first loaded, the orthogonally adjacent connected bunches of instructions would be determined and grouped together into "rafts", and then there were instructions which would cause the raft they were in to move up/down/left/right, I think so long as they weren't bumping into another raft (so they could steer themselves around against the whitespace background) < 1463282468 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so two rafts could come together to allow control to flow from one to the other, and then perhaps separate again later < 1463282510 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463283142 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ub. < 1463283186 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463283206 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the 'got. < 1463283327 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xluegwvnujpaxlsx QUIT : < 1463283556 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: WE USE STICKS < 1463284740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: cocktailpumpkin < 1463284771 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what if i sent you a book containing that thing < 1463284776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: would you be likely to read it < 1463286903 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-224-46-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463286969 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463289269 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463290595 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463290915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itymology < 1463290960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itymology is the science of understanding the true meaning of a statement. < 1463290989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1463290990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1463291107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to add "itymologist" but i can't find a place to fit it in tdnh < 1463291317 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463292157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463292466 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463294951 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463295237 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463295407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463296712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1463296721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an equivalent of LaTeX for making MIDI music? < 1463296770 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :textual music formats? there are many < 1463298647 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463298927 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463299339 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463299656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a rather interesting idea < 1463299659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gap Music < 1463299686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with a completely random ordering of chords and eliminate some of them until it sounds good < 1463299888 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 0 < 1463299902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :702 matching entries found. < 1463300089 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463300101 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1463300106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1463300143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463300157 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1463300159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1463300718 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:387e:6220:d44b:1d47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463300899 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 4 8 15 16 23 42 > "wisdom/6 random numbers" < 1463300908 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 6 random numbers < 1463300950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 random numbers? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463300956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463300982 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 6 random numbers < 1463300984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 8 15 16 23 42 < 1463301862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463303342 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463303773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463305824 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463306055 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463306121 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463306368 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1463306433 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463306490 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463306580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463307107 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently my program thinks zzo38's munching squares program likes the value "d2" a lot. < 1463307137 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has thus peppered all the "potential jump / potential copy" lists with various placements of d2. < 1463307151 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has thus given up on trying to use immediate values. < 1463307561 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems it's found an excuse, somewhere, to pepper memory with D2. < 1463309174 0 :tsumegirl!?@? NICK :izabera < 1463309412 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs with > 2,300 instructions tend to run into problems due to the memory required for storing the range of possible states at a given instruction, even with some accuracy-vs-speed tradeoffs towards speed (said optimizations likely being the cause of the 'd2' problem) < 1463309529 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:1ee8:6c98:d1ef:6776:2d5e JOIN :#esoteric < 1463309809 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems the tracer only works relatively well on structured programs that do not use speed-code. i.e. None of them. < 1463309965 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think BytePusher emulation speedups may only be reasonably achievable using JITs. < 1463310004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An extreme case is the Toccata Grande Cromatica by early-19th-century American composer Anthony Philip Heinrich, which uses note values as short as 2,048ths; however, the context shows clearly that these notes have one beam more than intended, so they should really be 1,024th notes.[4] < 1463310011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463310016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Really" < 1463310080 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yay for mangled wording! < 1463310109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ? < 1463310135 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, you were commenting on the "really" being there when it's a statement of opinion, correct? < 1463310149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: No < 1463310153 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what? < 1463310208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I was pointing out that, for any reasonable duration of a whole note, the difference between a 2048th and 1024th note is imperceptible, AND it's impossible to reliably play either one anyway < 1463310243 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth would someone use such values, then? < 1463310255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have no idea < 1463310293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: The article is expressing how the use of 2048th notes is pretty extreme, but that there is one extra flag so it's actually 1024th notes, which is somehow more reasonable < 1463310310 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer 1/32 notes. < 1463310316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Keep in mind, a whole note is 1 second iirc, meaning a 1024th note is less than a millisecond long < 1463310358 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it would sound like a click. < 1463310516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yeah < 1463310539 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :... does HackEgo seriously run a new Linux kernel when you run a command. Wow. < 1463310613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: ? < 1463310627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: Are you talking about how it lacks internal state? < 1463310639 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wonder why it reacts so slowly... < 1463310662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: If that's what you mean, "a new linux kernel" is the most wrong you could possibly get < 1463310673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: It's a new shell instance. Not an entirely new kernel. < 1463310679 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1463310679 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1463310679 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dmesg < 1463310692 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a uml thing, it *is* a substantial part of the kernel < 1463310712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: Also, keep in mind, the use of multi-shell allows multiple people to use HackEgo at once, which makes it scalable < 1463310722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset \ Initializing cgroup subsys cpu \ Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct \ Linux version 3.13.0-umlbox (hackbot@codu) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5) ) #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 \ On node 0 totalpages: 65855 \ free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat 60318390, node_mem_map 60fd4000 \ Normal zone: 901 pages used < 1463310736 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. Not telling me the current system time. < 1463310738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uptime < 1463310762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 10:12:38 up 0 min, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 < 1463310766 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That proves it. < 1463310770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's starting a new kernel. < 1463310772 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"up 0 min" < 1463310878 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Up 0 min == no uptime. If it was reusing the same kernel instance, it would keep the uptime. < 1463310899 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: in any case its host is becoming worse and worse... it used to be reasonably reactive. UML should boot up very quickly if everything is in memory... < 1463310917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Wait, an entire new kernel? < 1463310929 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: By the look of it. < 1463310931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, practically a cold boot? < 1463310937 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :user mode linux is a linux kernel running on a linux system < 1463310943 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Kind of. Remember that it's UML, as int-e says. < 1463310962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Which UML is this? I'm reading "Universal Markup Language" < 1463310976 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just expanded it for you. < 1463310988 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: User Mode Linux. Basically a kernel made to run in a kernel - a step between containerization and a VM. < 1463310998 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/boot_id < 1463311014 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/boot_id < 1463311027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Ah < 1463311090 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt "init" is even installed - such a thing would require a very stripped-down init for performance reasons. < 1463311109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6d8b8bcc-a466-439b-ba68-a959936a8ebe < 1463311111 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps aux > ps < 1463311114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :589120e0-8745-44a1-9d3a-28a933a13ec6 < 1463311116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) \ \ Usage: \ ps [options] \ \ Try 'ps --help ' \ or 'ps --help ' \ for additional help text. \ \ For more details see ps(1). < 1463311117 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux > ps < 1463311121 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different boot IDs... < 1463311131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463311142 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ps < 1463311164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND \ 0 1 1.0 0.1 1012 272 ? S 10:18 0:00 /init \ 0 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 10:18 0:00 [kthreadd] \ 0 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 10:18 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] \ 0 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? < 1463311170 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/a00724d0cc96/ps < 1463311183 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice it's referring to /init... < 1463311191 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem like a normal init's position on the disk. < 1463311205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /init < 1463311216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/init: ERROR: cannot open `/init' (No such file or directory) < 1463311255 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mount < 1463311255 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000 291 85.0 0.0 344 16 ? R 10:18 0:00 cat < 1463311259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1463311260 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, it did notice "cat" process. < 1463311284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: So it might not be rebooting for every command... or it might be the wrong cat process. < 1463311295 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1463311298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1463311309 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's weird, why cat didn't have arguments. < 1463311313 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's a different one. < 1463311332 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: I wrote my cat after it came up with "No output.", definitely a different cat process < 1463311340 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be exact, this one: sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' 'ps aux > ps' | cat < 1463311342 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably some internal part of HackEgo < 1463311374 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ. Well, now we have no doubts as to HackEgo's hosting location. < 1463311402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also notice the "type hostfs" mounts. < 1463311405 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected Canada. < 1463311407 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1463311491 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UML install seems to borrow files from the "real" host filesystem, since having a separate install for the system is kind of wasteful (Docker, I'm looking at you)... < 1463311511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm pretty sure it is Canada. That's where the ISP-whose-name-shall-not-be-said is located. Also that's what whois says for HackEgo's IP address.) < 1463311530 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows? :) < 1463311568 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldn't you borrow parts of the host... they become easier to update that way < 1463311589 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, I would. < 1463311591 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"docker" has a totally different philosophy. < 1463311604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't quite get what the point of docker is... < 1463311615 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...since it fails at proper isolation. < 1463311692 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how HackEgo seems to work: 1. command gets entered in 2. UML with "bare" initrd (could even be using ASM and syscalls) and extremely minimal setup boots, 3. The init performs magic (TM) and starts the command. < 1463311746 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: cat /proc/1/exe > extracted-init < 1463311758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it'll probably fail due to permissions. :( < 1463311779 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I get the point where they say that every component brings its own dependencies and therefore will not change its behavior when transferred betwenn hosts. No missing libraries on the host system, no conflicting versions... all coupled with the attitude that bandwidth and storage are essentially free. < 1463311804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure it sometimes goes wrong when you change kernel versions.) < 1463312029 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, if syscalls get dropped or are made incompatible, it would probably go wrong. But usually versioning problems stay in userland AFAIK.) < 1463312272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you could always look at source code: https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox/src/tip/init.c < 1463312291 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that explains it! < 1463312440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have invented a musical poem < 1463312452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of those really short ones < 1463312466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like the i-with-fingerprint or three-humped-m) < 1463312531 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. echo init | cpio -H newc -o | gzip -9c > umlbox-initrd.gz ... that's quite minimal. < 1463312551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Insufficient Permissions" < 1463312564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically just a half note where the ellipse is a "©" < 1463312583 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Presumably init is linked statically, then? < 1463312589 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: of course. < 1463312651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /init < 1463312685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/init: ERROR: cannot open `/init' (No such file or directory) < 1463312710 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried that. < 1463312897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /opt < 1463312972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463313530 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ghc < 1463313577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463316701 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:1ee8:6c98:d1ef:6776:2d5e QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463316728 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-229-119-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463317009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463317355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463317549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep forgot the idling idea. < 1463317600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well only a couple hours missing. < 1463318326 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-229-119-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463318523 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh you missed so much... < 1463318555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://sprunge.us/hNYF < 1463318579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1463318844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell xfix `run ps aux > ps <-- you probably want to use | paste < 1463318844 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463318856 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1463318875 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps aux | paste < 1463318886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :saves you a step < 1463318919 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463318924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks for HackEgo's oiling can < 1463318924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.346 < 1463318940 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1463319000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome. < 1463319074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders something < 1463319076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste - < 1463319092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/- < 1463319100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1463319110 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... useful? < 1463319126 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`len Goodbye, world. < 1463319133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 codepoints < 1463319145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: i was just wondering if it somehow supported the - for stdin syntax, but no. (not really surprising.) < 1463319165 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering STDIN is mostly broken, it wouldn't be that useful. < 1463319166 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat < 1463319182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose. < 1463319197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463319258 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My list of things to do after exams now has 15 things in it < 1463319405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: careful, or you'll start doing more exams to procrastinate the list tdnh < 1463319631 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, that's a real problem < 1463319645 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did one yesterday and I already have 6 more lined up < 1463319662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1463319684 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e480:4dcd:ecdb:160f JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320024 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320228 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320319 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463320332 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320424 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320529 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463320603 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463320801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463320809 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e480:4dcd:ecdb:160f JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320843 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463320913 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e480:4dcd:ecdb:160f QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463320946 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1463320949 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463321145 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The en_NZ thing had some sort of a point. < 1463321150 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget exactly what. < 1463321160 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it had nothing to do with geography. < 1463321231 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-11-04 07:05:47 zzo38: we asked Gregor to set it so that HackEgo could use utf-8, and he chose en_NZ to be funny < 1463321236 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463321236 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a "point". < 1463321266 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463321304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he _could_ have chosen zh_ZH or whatever it's called. < 1463321317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(might have to install it first.) < 1463321334 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463321645 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` locale -a | paste < 1463321666 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.14520 < 1463321679 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(New feature to cut down on writes: compare the paste result with everything in the paste dir, and reuse the old file if it already exists.) < 1463321691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn paste/"Paste" is a short story by Henry James. Its contents has been cut into pieces and distributed over numerous tin boxes on the World Wide Web, little pearls of wisdom buried among ordinary pastes. < 1463321697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «paste» < 1463321699 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what an odd story) < 1463321717 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1463321722 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` LC_ALL=zh_TW.utf8 ls /nosuchfile < 1463321725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: 無法存取 /nosuchfile: 沒有此一檔案或目錄 < 1463321884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463321902 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463321974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/has/have/ wisdom/paste < 1463321983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463322084 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? grammar < 1463322089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grammar is just a subset of syntax. < 1463322130 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That fails to capture its adversarial nature. < 1463322140 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol... Number = [(43 - 2 * Lowest Value * Second Lowest Value) mod 5] + 3 < 1463322141 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead simple < 1463322153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Grammar is the evil subset of syntax. < 1463322158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1463322158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'grammar': Grammar is the evil subset of syntax. < 1463322182 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :works for me < 1463322235 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Grammar is just the evil subset of syntax. < 1463322249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'grammar': Grammar is just the evil subset of syntax. < 1463322286 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so grammar is to (subset, syntax) as i am to (twin, perl)? < 1463322298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myname < 1463322300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname is not your name. You don't know what they are doing. Or you are doing. Or am I? He is Perl's evil twin brother. < 1463322308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently. < 1463322324 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1463322346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Actually, when you do a study to test the effect of water on the cancer risk, the number of deaths from cancer is significantly lower in the control group." < 1463322354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen on the iwc forum. < 1463322377 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :iwc? < 1463322383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irregular webcomic! < 1463322390 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... people who don't have cancer are less likely to die from cancer? < 1463322391 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1463322403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i think you're misinterpreting < 1463322444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to clarify, the previous paragraph: "Really? Aren't you sure Water is carcinogenic, too? After all, 100% of all cancer patients have been exposed to it. " < 1463322458 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the control group wouldn't get any water. < 1463322459 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463322470 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and won't die of cancer < 1463322477 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost certainly) < 1463322730 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is similar to the logic that lets you conclude that infertility is hereditary. (If your parents didn't have any children, you won't have any either.) < 1463322855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now I wonder how I came to think that they're similar... I guess it's that they combine a medical aspect and tautological/vacuous reasoning) < 1463323903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :medical research can be hazardous to your health. < 1463323916 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463325217 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463325324 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463325519 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463325561 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463325639 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463325785 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463326010 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463326514 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463326521 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463326543 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463326716 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463326906 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463326934 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463327042 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463327070 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e480:4dcd:ecdb:160f QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463327074 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463327543 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: JSON string syntax has an escape character for the forward slash. (But why.) < 1463327617 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's legal unescaped too, but "\/" is also allowed for "/".) < 1463327822 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463328111 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463328159 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463328216 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: In Javascript's string notation, escaping any character which isn't otherwise special results in just that character. < 1463328240 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not JSON. < 1463328248 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's specifically just the /, not any other character. < 1463328255 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's interesting. < 1463328271 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have expected them to just steal the string syntax wholesale. < 1463328274 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that might still be the underlying reason, if (for some reason) there's a lot of use of "\/" in JS strings. < 1463328278 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.json.org/string.gif < 1463328289 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1463328334 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's to make / not jealous of \. < 1463328448 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, that explains why I've seen "\/" a lot in JSON < 1463328456 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not sure why people would do that though... < 1463328655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463329989 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463330020 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463330119 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463331145 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1463332060 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463332340 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463332662 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463333415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03M654 5* 10New user account < 1463333550 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463333956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:M65414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47033 5* 03M654 5* (+118) 10Created page with "Heya, I'm m654. My GitHub page is [http://m654z.github.io here], so heck it out if you want to see my newest projects." < 1463334435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:M65414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47034&oldid=47033 5* 03M654 5* (+1) 10 < 1463334800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1463335060 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463335376 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463335376 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463335428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shard14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47035&oldid=47029 5* 03SMA 5* (+57) 10added ShaFuck link < 1463335783 0 :Moon_!~Moon_@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463335798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tellurium14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47036 5* 03M654 5* (+2480) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Tellurium |paradigms=imperative |author=[[m654|User:M654]] |year=[[:Category:2016|2016]] |typesys= |memsys=cell-based |refimpl=[https://github.com/m65..." < 1463335843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tellurium14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47037&oldid=47036 5* 03M654 5* (+11) 10 < 1463335897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07M65414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47038 5* 03M654 5* (+23) 10Redirected page to [[User:M654]] < 1463335933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:M65414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47039&oldid=47034 5* 03M654 5* (+25) 10 < 1463337212 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463337329 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463338235 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463338309 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463338699 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463339009 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463339622 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a nice bit-twiddling hack to extend a bit to fill all higher bits in an int? < 1463339684 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. 0000001010101010 -> 1111111010101010 extending bit 10 to fill the higher bits. < 1463339876 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463339954 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463340074 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: It's not *that* nice, but you could make one out of the (mostly obvious) https://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html#RoundUpPowerOf2 by leaving out the v--;/v++; and adding a orig_v |= ~v; at the end. < 1463340169 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It'd just go 0000001010101010 -> 0000001111111111 -> 1111110000000000 -> 1111111010101010 in the obvious manner.) < 1463340193 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :-) < 1463340307 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe better to stick with IF (numb & 0x400) {numb -= 0x800} or whatever I'm currently using. < 1463340387 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you had a particular position you want? I assumed a general "invert all leading zeros left of the most significant set bit". < 1463340513 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the fixed-position case, "(numb << K) >> K" is possibly the simplest thing to do, but only if you happen to have access to a >> that's reliably an arithmetic right shift. < 1463340581 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take a look what TCC does < 1463340593 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after I've had an ice cream!) < 1463340631 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard C's >> is implementation-defined for a signed, negative number, though I think the most common implementation is an arithmetic shift. < 1463340667 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much of an improvement over the if, though. < 1463340751 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'll stick with if, but will test it out of curiosity :-) < 1463341615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITS HAILING WTFOMGBBQ < 1463341628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`metar CYYZ < 1463341650 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen \/ used to break up within js so that it's not recognised by the html parser reading an embedded script < 1463341665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: metar: not found < 1463341715 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1463341752 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 151821Z 31024G31KT 15SM -SHRA SCT042TCU BKN084 04/M01 A2987 RMK TCU4AC2 SLP122 < 1463341896 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463341984 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463342644 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:81c3:ef56:bb1a:8f6f QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463342660 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1463342661 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 151850Z AUTO 33004KT 300V360 9999 NCD 15/04 Q1021 NOSIG < 1463342911 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463343198 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463343433 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d JOIN :#esoteric < 1463344197 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e480:4dcd:ecdb:160f JOIN :#esoteric < 1463344201 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e480:4dcd:ecdb:160f QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463344496 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463344600 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463345134 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463345182 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463345521 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwcrzxgmfylspbey JOIN :#esoteric < 1463346777 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, I hate it when I'm playing a point and click adventure and it wants me to hold a button for 2 seconds for something to happen. < 1463346835 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1463346843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that happen often? < 1463346934 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1463347004 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, occasionally < 1463347250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually going beyond mere point&click happens quite often... but it can be done in unsurprising ways, like pulling levers, or turning gears... < 1463347431 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I calculated all nontrivial elementary 1d ca's periodic oscillators < 1463347462 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to prove turing-completeness of some ca-s < 1463347470 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other that rule-110 < 1463347759 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: g2g < 1463347891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463348067 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463348236 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463349180 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463349275 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463350318 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463350798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463351748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463351969 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463352289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463352293 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how are you < 1463352293 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because afaik it's for breaking big s-exps up to make them less anonymous :o, i can turn on to make it < 1463352502 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's your long weekend going so far, everyone? < 1463352536 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very long < 1463352541 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an exam yesterday and an exam tomorrow < 1463352632 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I see. what's the exam about this time/ < 1463352649 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday's was coding theory, tomorrow's is character theory < 1463352674 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuesday's is computation by graph transformation < 1463352696 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wednesday is cryptography, and also correctness of programs by construction < 1463352703 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :...this is a lot of C's < 1463352710 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Appropriately, I'm all at sea < 1463352767 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sincerely hoping I pass < 1463353112 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those sound scary. < 1463353134 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Character theory especially, but the rest too. < 1463353173 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Thursday and Friday exams don't begin with C < 1463353181 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Galois Theory and Topology < 1463353211 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those at least sound slightly better, depending on what "topology" covers. It's a bit broad. < 1463353237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully what topology covers is finite < 1463353244 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least has a finite subcover < 1463353252 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One would certainly hope so < 1463353347 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463353835 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463354059 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463354076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wait, you had a coding theory exam in the week-end? < 1463354082 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you having exams in the week-end? < 1463354087 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only happened to me once < 1463354114 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :six exams next week sounds like a lot though < 1463354200 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I don't know, but Saturday exams are an uncommon but not unheard of thing here < 1463354319 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we had Saturday exams as well. At least in the exam period schedule sheets -- not sure if I ever ended up in any. I think they tried to schedule the unpopular ones there. < 1463354335 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And what could be less popular than coding theory.) < 1463354352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463354738 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, fizzie: ok < 1463354742 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463354745 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? manometer < 1463354810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manometer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463354810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweden//Sweden is the suburb capital of Norway. It's where all the Nobel prizes are announced, except the Math Prize. < 1463354926 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:387e:6220:d44b:1d47 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463354957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? major < 1463354959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :major? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463354959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? every major < 1463354961 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every major? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463354993 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn every major/Just put me down as “undecided” – every major's terrible. < 1463355008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «every major» < 1463355344 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1463356306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463356650 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463356890 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463356936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : For the fixed-position case, "(numb << K) >> K" is possibly the simplest thing to do, but only if you happen to have access to a >> that's reliably an arithmetic right shift. <-- what about (numb << K) / (1 << K) ? < 1463356975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might need casts < 1463357015 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463357134 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463357182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/weather < 1463357201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/weather: No such file or directory < 1463357202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1463357208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1463357212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463357218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bin/weather < 1463357220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/weather? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463357226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1463357230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1463357234 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 152200Z 31013G23KT 15SM BKN045 OVC100 07/M03 A2965 RMK SC5AC3 SLP043 \ ENVA 152250Z 33007KT 9999 BKN037 06/02 Q1016 RMK WIND 670FT 30007KT \ ESSB 152250Z AUTO 35017G29KT 9999 -DZ BKN013/// OVC015/// 07/04 Q1001 \ KOAK 152253Z 25015KT 10SM FEW020 FEW200 20/12 A2997 RMK AO2 SLP148 T02000122 < 1463357234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats his brain -----### < 1463357286 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/metar//echo lambdabot: @metar $1 < 1463357292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1463357292 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/metar < 1463357299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`metar ENVA < 1463357300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @metar ENVA < 1463357300 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 152250Z 33007KT 9999 BKN037 06/02 Q1016 RMK WIND 670FT 30007KT < 1463357436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell \oren\ <\oren\> ITS HAILING WTFOMGBBQ <-- i am not sure this is ideal for BBQ but whatever floats your boat. < 1463357436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463357478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're probably thinking of a barbecue, i.e. bbc < 1463357629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves the swatter in shachaf's general direction and mumbles something about elderberries -----### < 1463357693 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463357854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463357916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? manometer < 1463357919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manometer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463357943 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463357970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: à la , i'm sure < 1463358057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A manometer is a device for testing real men by putting them under pressure. < 1463358063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'manometer': A manometer is a device for testing real men by putting them under pressure. < 1463358087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: APPROXIMATELY < 1463358912 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: / truncates negative numbers to the wrong direction. Consider the case where (numb << K) == -1 -- then the result should be -1 as well, but it's 0 for any K > 0. < 1463358940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but it can't be - it's always divisible by 2^K < 1463358961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a-true. < 1463359157 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess that'll work. Although I wonder if compilers are going to be clever enough to realize that. (They quite often seem to implement division by 2^K by shifting + extra adjustments for the rounding.) < 1463359214 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463359230 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. At least clang did. Fancy stuff. < 1463359243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc didn't. :) < 1463359339 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ffTA for the dirt. < 1463359411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463359486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downvotes a reddit post solely because the link started playing audio automatically. < 1463359488 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The latter is essentially "t = x << 6; if (t < 0) t += 63; return t >> 6;") < 1463359505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, it already had thousands of upvotes. < 1463359958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? OS/2 < 1463359972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS/2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463360146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn OS/2//OS/2 was an OS, too. < 1463360163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le//rn: line 1: wisdom/os/2: Not a directory < 1463360172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1463360184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plan 9 < 1463360186 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plan9 < 1463360188 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? plan-9 < 1463360190 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os2 < 1463360192 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os-2 < 1463360196 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os 2 < 1463360207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't spamckego like that twh < 1463360213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats b_jonas for spamming while he's trying to debug -----### < 1463360226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os < 1463360240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1463360247 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1463360256 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1463360264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric :b_jonas < 1463360271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1463360320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463360321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463360365 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463360381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i say it's still overloaded. < 1463360454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463360454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463360454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463360455 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463360456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463360458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Os is the accusative plural of us. Also a municipality in Norway. < 1463360477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. alas there cannot be both a file and a directory by the same name... < 1463360783 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463360803 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463361199 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463361265 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463361269 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-145-031.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463361513 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-169-109.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463361650 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-190-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463363248 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463364010 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463364799 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: :)rando:)Get :) to Mars( < 1463364896 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463365167 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463365504 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463366159 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463366216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sorry if i insulted you. it was meant as a joke. < 1463366245 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. (I started a jevalbot instance to watch the channel, in case it wasn't obvious.) < 1463366283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i didn't connect that. < 1463366349 0 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-svbkjpzsoldekqzu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463366469 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463366571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomcard d.*(r.*(o.*m|m.*o)|o.*(r.*m|m.*r)|m.*(r.*o|o.*r)).*ka < 1463366578 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card d.*(r.*(o.*m|m.*o)|o.*(r.*m|m.*r)|m.*(r.*o|o.*r)).*ka < 1463366614 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463366636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: randomcard: not found < 1463366647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dromoka Captain \ 2W \ Creature -- Human Soldier \ 1/1 \ First strike \ Whenever Dromoka Captain attacks, bolster 1. (Choose a creature with the least toughness among creatures you control and put a +1/+1 counter on it.) \ DTK-U < 1463366654 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card d.*(r.*(o.*m|m.*o)|o.*(r.*m|m.*r)|m.*(r.*o|o.*r)).*ka < 1463366668 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card fury < 1463366677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dromoka Warrior \ 1W \ Creature -- Human Warrior \ 3/1 \ DTK-C < 1463366678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vampiric Fury \ 1R \ Instant \ Vampire creatures you control get +2/+0 and gain first strike until end of turn. \ ISD-C < 1463366701 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card multikick < 1463366705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lightkeeper of Emeria \ 3W \ Creature -- Angel \ 2/4 \ Multikicker {W} (You may pay an additional {W} any number of times as you cast this spell.) \ Flying \ When Lightkeeper of Emeria enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life for each time it was kicked. \ WWK-U, CMD-U < 1463366791 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463367396 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463367613 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463368076 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463369168 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "free ranging moons" means? < 1463369191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left adjoint to forgetful ranging moons, presumably? < 1463369216 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what it means. OK < 1463369760 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :more likely it means moons yanked from their orbits and turned into comets or dwarf planets or, even more free ranging, sent hurtling out into interstellar space < 1463369806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, but what is containing it anyways? < 1463369967 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at Victoria today and also yesterday. < 1463370439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were you ever in Bellingham? < 1463370488 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1463370501 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly; I don't actually remember, but I do not think so) < 1463370561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463370751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were you ever in the United States? < 1463370833 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I was, but I do not know what name of places they are. The food is better in Canada though. < 1463370908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure it's not better in California? < 1463371008 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have been in California, and I think the food is better in Canada, even if it is the same restaurant chain. < 1463371245 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463371371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which restaurant chain? < 1463371393 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot, but it is any of them I have tried. < 1463371464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada and California are very similar. < 1463371486 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the first two letters (and also the last letter) is similar. < 1463371492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They both start with "ca" and in fact that's used as the standard abbreviaton. < 1463371493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They both have a place called Ontario. < 1463371497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They both have poutine. < 1463371524 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463371542 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a different use for country code or state code though. < 1463372103 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463372358 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463373426 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not grow the grass by pulling it. < 1463374371 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463374919 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463375752 0 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-svbkjpzsoldekqzu QUIT : < 1463375777 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pnxwebtjyrxgrtae JOIN :#esoteric < 1463378096 0 :u0_a201!~Moon___@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463378101 0 :u0_a201!~Moon___@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463378108 0 :u0_a201!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1463378143 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463378420 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463379441 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Renku is just the Japanese version of Rap Battles, isn't it? < 1463379513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 78 < 1463379552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 78: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1463379588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: should that file be adjusted hth < 1463379706 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463380170 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463380840 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect the next one would involve Drusila and Zeux Agem and so on. < 1463381126 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1463381237 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this theorem called: If a category has at least two objects, and has n final objects, then the number of monads on that category is greater or equal to n+1. < 1463381898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::I was writing ideas for a specification of a new kind of computer I may make in future. One of the things is that the main processor and video processor both have exclusive access to video memory. There are also many others, including some hardware and software features I have seen nowhere before (although I have seen similar things). < 1463382010 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing it into the computer in the intention to be unpatentable. How exactly does this work anyways? < 1463382102 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463382390 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463382772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think it has a name. < 1463382788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do people care about monads and terminal objects more than just up to isomorphism, anyway? < 1463382829 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1463382885 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463382923 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hahaha, I can think of a weird case where it matters < 1463383017 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: What case do you think of? < 1463383145 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Given a ring R and a small category C, you can define R[C] to be the free R-module whose basis is the set of arrows of C, and you can define a multiplication on it in a convolution-y way where you define the product of arrows which don't compose to be 0, and define it to be their composite when they do. < 1463383155 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and zzo38 < 1463383196 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if you take the indiscrete category on n objects, this is the ring of n-by-n matrices with coefficients in R < 1463383230 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you care about the distinction between your terminal objects in that case < 1463383273 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's the discrete category on n objects, this the same as R^n < 1463383299 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's the preorder category for the natural numbers, it's the polynomial ring R[x] < 1463383320 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made a similar complaint about distinguishability for both indiscrete categories and indiscrete topologies. < 1463383363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The full subcategory of Top of discrete spaces is equivalent to Set. That makes sense, because discrete spaces behave like sets. < 1463383392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the full subcategory of Top of indiscrete spaces is isomorphic to it. What's that all about? < 1463383411 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, any function between indiscrete spaces is continuous < 1463383414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1463383430 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not taking equivalence classes of topologically indistinguishable maps < 1463383436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seems to me that an indiscrete space "ought" to behave in such a way that you can't distinguish its elements. < 1463383440 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it doesn't here. < 1463383451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People talk about equivalence of categories rather than isomorphism of categories because of this issue. < 1463383465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I want the same thing for topological spaces. < 1463383484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway you can make the same complaint about e.g. discrete/indiscrete categories, or discrete/indiscrete preorders. < 1463383496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are really all the same sort of thing. < 1463383614 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can replace the arrows in Top with equivalence classes of arrows where if f and g are cts. maps X -> Y, then f ~ g whenever for all x in X, you have f(x) and g(x) are topologically indistinguishable in Y. < 1463383633 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that'll sort things out < 1463383660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Does that category have a name? Why don't people use it instead of Top? < 1463383660 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternately, you can restrict Top to not have shitty topological spaces in it < 1463383689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do homotopies relate to this? Since category equivalence is defined in terms of natural transformations. < 1463383694 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why people work with Hausdorff spaces instead < 1463383715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But lots of interesting spaces aren't Hausdorff. < 1463383724 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1463383736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the Sierpinski space isn't Hausdorff. < 1463383745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That space seems pretty fundamental to me. < 1463383753 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "lots", is "mostly Zariski topologies" < 1463383762 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, the computational synthetic topology stuff < 1463383819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topology without the Sierpinski space seems like set theory without Bool. < 1463383822 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sierpinski space is usually more relevant as a counterexample for topologists, than as something which is used as the foundation to build more stuff. < 1463383836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm probably not thinking about it from the typical topology perspective. < 1463383837 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that's my impression < 1463383940 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homotopy can't distinguish it from a point, so once you get to any of the algebraic topology stuff, it's not so relevant either. < 1463383989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I should learn about algebraic topology. < 1463384117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway what you said reminded me of a question I was asking the other day. < 1463384196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In convolution there are three operations, right? (f * g)(z) = \A_{i,j | b(i,j) = z}{ c(f(i)g(j)) } < 1463384200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have A, b, c < 1463384209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, c(f(i),g(j)) < 1463384238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So say A is integral, b is addition, c is multiplication. < 1463384246 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, sure < 1463384260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People vary all three of those, don't they? < 1463384262 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463384265 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1463384270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, is there a case where c is something like composition in a category? < 1463384281 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :I described that a moment ago < 1463384296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you were just assigning 0 where the composition doesn't exist. < 1463384297 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... literally how we began this discussion < 1463384304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess that has the same effect. < 1463384310 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and the composite otherwise :) < 1463384321 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically just "avoid the things you can't compose" < 1463384345 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then you answered my question from last week, rather than just reminded me of it. < 1463384358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather say that you don't sum over those things in the first than that the sum is 0, but whatever. < 1463384367 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a different way to do it too < 1463384379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other question I asked was what requirements people usually put on b. < 1463384393 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solid matrices | Contains only freely-mooned ranges | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | The overdone city meme has RISEN from its burial place in Truth or Consequences (not Hot Springs) in search of BRAINS < 1463384417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often people require it to be a group, which is way too much, of course (you don't need inverses). < 1463384434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can it be a non-associative operation? I saw something that at least resembled a convolution with a non-associative operation. < 1463384435 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :R[[C]] is similar, but we require C to be a small category with finite factorisation, i.e. for any f: A -> C, there exist finitely many pairs of arrows g: B -> C and h: A -> B such that f = g . h < 1463384455 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then instead of just taking the free R-module on the arrows, we can take all functions Arr(C) -> R < 1463384456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solidity matrices | Contains only freely-mooned ranges | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1463384471 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the convolution still works out because there are only finitely many ways to factor any given arrow < 1463384484 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we can still take the sum < 1463384501 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a generalisation of Gian-Carlo Rota's incidence algebras < 1463384524 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where you get incidence algebras when the category is a preorder category) < 1463384567 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now if you take C to be the preorder category on the naturals, you get the power series ring R[[X]] < 1463384598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the totally ordered preorder category? < 1463384614 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preorder category for omega < 1463384629 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first infinite ordinal) < 1463384709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this incidence algebra convolution looks unusual. < 1463384745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f * g)(a,b) = \Sum_{a ≤ x ≤ b} { f(a,x)g(x,b) } < 1463384822 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you do convolutions of two discrete sequences, you get something that operates over the antidiagonals, right? < 1463385229 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, if I understand what you mean correctly, you get something like polynomials < 1463385246 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :or power series < 1463385280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, say you have [a,b,c] [d,e,f] < 1463385307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make the multiplication table < 1463385310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad ae af < 1463385310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bd be bf < 1463385310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf ce cf < 1463385321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have the antidiagonals [ad] [ae,bd] [af,be,cf] etc. < 1463385323 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1463385344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that something like polynomials? < 1463385345 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you pick [a,b,c] = [d,e,f] = [0,1,2] < 1463385351 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and multiplication to be addition < 1463385397 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^n * x^m = x^(n+m) < 1463385481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone was talking about the convolution where A is min and b/c are addition. < 1463385522 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds tropical < 1463385570 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_geometry < 1463385609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you pick b=(-), you get diagonals instead of antidiagonals. < 1463385625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{i,j | i-j=0} and so on. < 1463385693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: That must be why the person who asked this question is going to Hawaii. < 1463385798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is convolution with (-) still convolution? What properties should the three different operators satisfy? < 1463385800 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The adjective tropical in this context was coined by French mathematicians in honor of the Hungarian-born Brazilian mathematician Imre Simon, who wrote on the field." < 1463385834 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably you want c to be associative, otherwise you'd end up with something strange. < 1463385938 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, perhaps we could compromise, and make it x^a x^b = (1/2) (x^(a-b) + x^(b-a)) < 1463385947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was actually thinking about A when I said that, so that doesn't make sense anyway. < 1463385996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day convolution also shows some extra structure that you don't see in typical convolution. < 1463385999 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with the exponentiation being a little inappropriate now) < 1463386051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where you have something like \(Co)End { f(x)g(y)Hom(xy,-) } < 1463386077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_{x,y} < 1463386116 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, for all these wildly different kinds of convolution, we need a Fourier theory < 1463386160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one of those things I never learned much about that I really should. < 1463386297 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :If f and g are integrable functions with Fourier transforms F and G respectively, and the convolution f * g is defined by (f * g)(x) = integral over R of f(t) g(x - t) dt < 1463386335 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the Fourier transform of f * g is given by the pointwise product F G < 1463386365 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the Fourier transform turns convolution into multiplication < 1463386380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the Dirac delta is apparently the identity for convolution. What does that mean in all these contexts? < 1463386437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or even in any context?) < 1463386442 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's because (f * delta)(x) = integral over R of f(t) delta(x-t) dt = f(x) pretty much by definition of Dirac delta. < 1463386465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1463386486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's a better-behaved equivalent in discrete contexts. < 1463386531 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I missed your actual question < 1463386539 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what's the analogous thing in the other contexts < 1463386580 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, Dirac delta is even only a thing in the original context if you pretty much go out of your way to force it to be < 1463387269 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463389387 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463389657 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463391069 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwcrzxgmfylspbey QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463392710 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463395421 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463395535 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pnxwebtjyrxgrtae QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463396759 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-169-109.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463397295 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463397642 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-169-109.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463398345 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463398622 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463398877 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463399322 0 :Melvar``!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463399628 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1463399628 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 161000Z 27018G25KT 15SM FEW025 OVC050 03/M03 A2978 RMK SC2SC6 SLP087 < 1463399632 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1463399632 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 161020Z 28005KT 9999 SCT043 09/01 Q1013 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 31004KT < 1463399763 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463400026 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1463400028 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 161050Z AUTO 26006KT 200V290 9999 BKN033 14/06 Q1021 NOSIG < 1463400488 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \Bshro < 1463400497 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [a-x]kni < 1463400598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463400598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463400611 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1463400624 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ykn < 1463400631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kjeldoran Skyknight \ 2W \ Creature -- Human Knight \ 1/1 \ Flying; first strike; banding (Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band. Bands are blocked as a group. If any creatures with banding you control are blocking or being blocked by a creature, you divide that creature's combat damage, not its controller, among a < 1463400640 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card nkshr < 1463400643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cephalid Inkshrouder \ 2U \ Creature -- Cephalid \ 2/1 \ Discard a card: Cephalid Inkshrouder gains shroud until end of turn and can't be blocked this turn. (A creature with shroud can't be the target of spells or abilities.) \ JUD-U < 1463400650 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't \Bshro match that? < 1463400681 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \Bshro < 1463400685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyshroud Sentinel \ 2G \ Creature -- Elf \ 1/1 \ When Skyshroud Sentinel enters the battlefield, you may search your library for up to three cards named Skyshroud Sentinel, reveal them, and put them into your hand. If you do, shuffle your library. \ NE-C < 1463400690 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, better < 1463400695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [a-x]kni < 1463400698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuknir Deathlock \ RRGG \ Legendary Creature -- Human Wizard \ 2/2 \ Flying \ {R}{G}, {T}: Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. \ LE-R, ME3-U < 1463400701 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it timed out or got killed or something < 1463400713 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/random-card < 1463400716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand(@c)];' "$1" < 1463400792 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe 's/( \$c[rand(\@c)])/($1||"No card found.")/' bin/random-card < 1463400794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand(@c)];' "$1" < 1463400818 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe 's/( \$c\[rand(\@c)])/($1||"No card found.")/' bin/random-card < 1463400820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print $c[rand(@c)];' "$1" < 1463400828 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe 's/( \$c\[rand\(\@c\)])/($1||"No card found.")/' bin/random-card < 1463400830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print( $c[rand(@c)]||"No card found.");' "$1" < 1463400837 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pe 's/ (\$c\[rand\(\@c\)])/($1||"No card found.")/' bin/random-card < 1463400839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec perl -e'open$I,"<","share/mtg/allsets.txt"or die$!;$/=""; @c=grep{/(?mi:$ARGV[0])/}<$I>; print($c[rand(@c)]||"No card found.");' "$1" < 1463400846 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pi e 's/ (\$c\[rand\(\@c\)])/($1 || "No card found.")/' bin/random-card < 1463400848 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "e": No such file or directory < 1463400853 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -pi -e 's/ (\$c\[rand\(\@c\)])/($1 || "No card found.")/' bin/random-card < 1463400860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463400862 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card [a-x]kni < 1463400865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card kk < 1463400866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuknir Deathlock \ RRGG \ Legendary Creature -- Human Wizard \ 2/2 \ Flying \ {R}{G}, {T}: Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. \ LE-R, ME3-U < 1463400873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sekki, Seasons' Guide \ 5GGG \ Legendary Creature -- Spirit \ 0/0 \ Sekki, Seasons' Guide enters the battlefield with eight +1/+1 counters on it. \ If damage would be dealt to Sekki, prevent that damage, remove that many +1/+1 counters from Sekki, and put that many 1/1 colorless Spirit creature tokens onto the battlefield. \ Sacrifice eight Spirits < 1463400876 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card thsh < 1463400879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earthshaker \ 4RR \ Creature -- Spirit \ 4/5 \ Whenever you cast a Spirit or Arcane spell, Earthshaker deals 2 damage to each creature without flying. \ CHK-U < 1463400885 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card thshr < 1463400890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1463400893 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1463400906 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if it prints "No output." then something went wrong < 1463400928 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name lavas < 1463400933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lavastep Raider \ R \ Creature -- Goblin Warrior \ 1/2 \ {2}{R}: Lavastep Raider gets +2/+0 until end of turn. \ BFZ-C < 1463400944 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card spike < 1463400946 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lava Spike \ R \ Sorcery -- Arcane \ Lava Spike deals 3 damage to target player. \ CHK-C, MMA-C < 1463400954 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card spook < 1463400956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1463400975 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card cuttlefish < 1463400978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1463401129 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ch.*th < 1463401132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stonehorn Chanter \ 5W \ Creature -- Rhino Cleric \ 4/4 \ {5}{W}: Stonehorn Chanter gains vigilance and lifelink until end of turn. (Attacking doesn't cause it to tap. Damage dealt by it also causes you to gain that much life.) \ M14-U < 1463401344 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DIFFICULT CHICKEN < 1463401693 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463403064 0 :LewisMCYoutube!uid163902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxjmjlmwysnwotme JOIN :#esoteric < 1463403325 0 :LewisMCYoutube!uid163902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxjmjlmwysnwotme QUIT :Client Quit < 1463403868 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463404157 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463405980 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47040&oldid=46982 5* 03M654 5* (+16) 10 < 1463406489 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463406501 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463406798 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? many time pad < 1463406812 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463406825 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1463406862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin//copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1463406862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463406896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463407131 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463407192 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :president of anything at all? < 1463407203 0 :^v!~v^@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463407553 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463407742 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463407806 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1463407823 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463407853 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463408056 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a jig < 1463408069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays the hornpipe < 1463408085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any occasion? < 1463408256 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weed? < 1463408282 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think weed generally causes people to dance < 1463408344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wouldn't know one way or the other < 1463408362 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1quote < 1463408364 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463408366 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463408367 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463408383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :628) if the halting problem was solved, as a placebo.. would it benefit people? < 1463408385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :729) nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. < 1463408385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :279) i actually do like sucking < 1463408405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh itidus < 1463408576 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463408790 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1463409442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* heavy beats penetrating the building. < 1463409472 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1463409472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected a party today but had hoped it'd not get this bad this early. < 1463409477 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1463409530 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463409538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's 3:38 in the afternoon.) < 1463409626 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? interactive toxic waste exhibit < 1463409627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the beats, mind you. i cannot hear the actual _tunes_. the building only lets through the sounds it know i hate tdnh < 1463409630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interactive toxic waste exhibit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463409635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*knows < 1463409644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: good idea < 1463409656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw in some radioactivity. < 1463409658 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/comic/millie/comic?n=20070302 and following strip < 1463409668 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my idea < 1463409750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a full mirror < 1463409759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(clicking next worked) < 1463409765 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1463409775 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://russell2.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/comic/millie/index < 1463410078 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-062-098-064.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463410143 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463410185 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ozy and mille < 1463410187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ozy and mille? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463410190 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ozy and millie < 1463410192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ozy and millie? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463410209 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-meqgxiqllahrelcs JOIN :#esoteric < 1463410259 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-169-109.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463411273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I actually read that to the end... < 1463411360 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: good. I like that comic strip. < 1463411371 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't put up mirrors of just anything. O&M is great.) < 1463411454 0 :Human_61!4f88ad9f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.173.159 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463411506 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The direct links to images on the original site from my mirror are broken though, because they changed the url. Let me try to fix that. < 1463411986 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should also figure out what to do with the House Rules site, which has been down for a while. Let me check if some pages of it are on archive.org < 1463412123 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, https://web.archive.org/web/20120904022248/http://houserules.org.uk/index.php?page=archive&date=19980429 < 1463412140 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to change the House Rules links to archive.org then < 1463412177 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463412583 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463412652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CUTLASS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47041&oldid=37058 5* 03160.44.230.213 5* (-11) 10Updated to reflect E.ON organisational changes. < 1463412887 0 :alandipert!~alandiper@cpe-45-37-184-11.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463412896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi alandipert < 1463412952 0 :alandipert!~alandiper@cpe-45-37-184-11.nc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463412974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard fizzie emailed you < 1463412999 0 :alandipert!~alandiper@cpe-45-37-184-11.nc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did < 1463413007 0 :alandipert!~alandiper@cpe-45-37-184-11.nc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to attempt transferring the domain to him < 1463413027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a delicate operation < 1463413043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he's idle at the moment. < 1463413117 0 :alandipert!~alandiper@cpe-45-37-184-11.nc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. i'll stick around < 1463413160 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463413425 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463413597 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1463413597 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1463413599 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1463416138 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1461 , Marten says to Faye and Hannelore “You to befriended me via bullying and stalking respectively.” I know Faye stalked Marten near the start of the comic, when Faye burned down her house them moved in with Marten then persuaded Marten to move to a larger place, < 1463416149 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's he trying to say about Marigold? I don't recall any of that. < 1463416962 0 :Naraka!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463417010 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463417954 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463418646 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1463418827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card pl.*n < 1463418843 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card \A.*pl.*n < 1463418888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replenish \ 3W \ Sorcery \ Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.) \ UD-R < 1463418888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duplicant \ 6 \ Artifact Creature -- Shapeshifter \ 2/4 \ Imprint -- When Duplicant enters the battlefield, you may exile target nontoken creature. \ As long as a card exiled with Duplicant is a creature card, Duplicant has the power, toughness, and creature types of the last creature card exiled with Duplicant. It's still a Shapeshifter. \ MRD-R, < 1463418891 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463419240 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463419445 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463419464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1463419620 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463419741 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463419927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, web.archive.org doesn't seem to have archived most of the Ozy and Millie House Rules strips < 1463419985 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey look < 1463419990 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :has #1036 been olisted yet? < 1463419992 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: < 1463420006 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check the logs < 1463420008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not by me < 1463420012 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please see logs in the topic < 1463420021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i'm going to be double-pinged :'( < 1463420023 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1036 < 1463420033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1036: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1463420045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sadly the logs don't seem to be up to date < 1463420055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tunes logs are. < 1463420057 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check the other logs < 1463420127 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, where had I heared that name before? < 1463420132 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, the Fairy Queen < 1463420138 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card fairy queen < 1463420142 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No card found. < 1463420146 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1463420164 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card queen of the fae < 1463420166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oona, Queen of the Fae \ 3(u/b)(u/b)(u/b) \ Legendary Creature -- Faerie Wizard \ 5/5 \ Flying \ {X}{(u/b)}: Choose a color. Target opponent exiles the top X cards of his or her library. For each card of the chosen color exiled this way, put a 1/1 blue and black Faerie Rogue creature token with flying onto the battlefield. \ SHM-R, MMA-R, V11-M < 1463420311 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-eivefmieptxfpzpm QUIT :Changing host < 1463420311 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463420311 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1463420311 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-eivefmieptxfpzpm JOIN :#esoteric < 1463420368 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463420441 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zero wing < 1463420465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero wing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463420641 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463420708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bugbear < 1463420709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? owlbear < 1463420711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugbear? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463420712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :owlbear? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463420840 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463420889 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463420925 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( a bugbear is a teddy bear that you can explain your bugs to. ) < 1463420946 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, nice one < 1463420954 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A bugbear is a teddy bear that you can explain your bugs to. < 1463420962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bugbear': A bugbear is a teddy bear that you can explain your bugs to. < 1463420967 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his bugbear < 1463423337 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1463423576 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463423632 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that ca < 1463423681 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada is cold and california is a horrible burning desert hellscape < 1463423709 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a water table below sea level < 1463423747 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas canada has huge amounts[of fresh water < 1463423895 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463423942 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ca < 1463423959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ca? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463423987 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...burning desert hellscape doesn't sound like a good place to be < 1463424004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1463424005 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 161653Z 20003KT 10SM FEW012 16/11 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP160 T01610106 < 1463424007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1463424010 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 161700Z 27010G24KT 210V300 15SM FEW045 FEW095 SCT230 14/03 A3004 RMK CU1AC2CI1 CU TR SLP179 < 1463424020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope their implementation of INhs is up to spec... though spec version 2006, not spec version 2016... < 1463424050 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463424341 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463424994 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1463424997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 161752Z 12008KT 10SM FEW080 SCT150 BKN250 22/04 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP216 T02220044 10228 20139 58011 < 1463426137 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463426575 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463427218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Are there names for the three different operations of convolutions? < 1463427225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a more general way to talk about them or something? < 1463427268 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know if anyone's attempted to really try to abstract over what's going on there -- at least, any more than the category algebra definition. < 1463427325 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I'm starting to understand your advice about baking in the monad stack < 1463427359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cryptoleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47042&oldid=46449 5* 03Ditihala 5* (+30) 10/* External Resources */ < 1463427379 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I had the thought the other night that perhaps if our category had additional structure, we could integrate over the choices of factorisations. < 1463427430 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since, for instance, I want to be able to tack on additional structure sometimes (a la Reader) but don't want to risk confusing things more < 1463427445 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: The fact that I never use the word "stack" in reference to monads should tell you something about the way I think about it :) < 1463427500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale is giving advice about baking in the monad stack? < 1463427513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like something Eugenia Cheng would do. < 1463427518 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1463427535 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's referring to my advice to always newtype < 1463427551 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hide the fact that you're using monad transformers to implement whatever it is you're implementing < 1463427557 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1463427574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Cale < 1463427578 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may still use the monad classes, to get standard combinators < 1463427583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pnyr < 1463427604 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm definitely seeing the value in baking things together < 1463428821 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :hive < 1463428863 0 :hive!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463429025 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "baking in the monad stack"? < 1463429059 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i ybden is now known as molum < 1463429074 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Haha < 1463429088 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's actually what my nick was derived from < 1463429102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured. < 1463429103 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :molum < 1463429124 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: using a newtype or the like to hide your monad transformer stack < 1463429133 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks for the other nick :) < 1463429861 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463430518 0 :molum!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463430629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :molybdenum? i 'ardly know 'em! < 1463430796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463431978 0 :LewisMCYoutube!uid163902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uewuytptoybihdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1463432168 0 :LewisMCYoutube!uid163902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uewuytptoybihdov PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like pie. < 1463432247 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm pie < 1463432281 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl (\a b -> b a) (\b -> b) u < 1463432281 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(u (\ b -> u)) < 1463432340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, variable capture. < 1463432341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oops < 1463432357 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's been reported: https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/issues/142 ) < 1463432370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot of the alpha conversion, governor? < 1463432381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually you don't need alpha conversion for this case. < 1463432389 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl (\a a -> a) b < 1463432389 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ a -> b) < 1463432390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you need it for more complicated cases. < 1463432395 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's the simplest. < 1463432412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's just an error. < 1463432423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl (\a -> \a -> a) b < 1463432424 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ a -> b) < 1463432432 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a a -> a) 0 0 < 1463432434 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Conflicting definitions for ‘a’ < 1463432434 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bound at: :1:3 < 1463432434 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:5 < 1463432440 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know that. < 1463432446 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a -> \a -> a) 0 0 < 1463432449 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1463432463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you testing it with 0 and 0 to be confusing on purpose hth < 1463432465 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as far as @unpl is concerned that makes no difference. < 1463432466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/confusing/ambiguous/ < 1463432472 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1463432479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a -> \a -> a) a a < 1463432481 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1463432727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the case where alpha conversion is really necessary? < 1463432730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget it. < 1463432762 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, that's (\a -> \a -> a) a b < 1463432774 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a -> \a -> a) 0 1 < 1463432775 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1463432783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463432803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463432804 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote a lambda expression interpreter that got that exact thing wrong, so the inner binding couldn't successfully shadow the outer binding, and it used the outer binding < 1463432836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The a a thing was a joke, modeled after int-e's joke. < 1463432854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what's a good BrainFuck program that isn't Lost Kingdom as a good test for a BrainFuck interpreter? < 1463432879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But you don't actually need alpha conversion for that, do you? < 1463432895 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To be more precise, one that isn't on the order of several MiB and uses tons of cycles... it's not a fast interpreter) < 1463432939 0 :LewisMCYoutube!uid163902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uewuytptoybihdov PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1463432941 0 :LewisMCYoutube!uid163902@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uewuytptoybihdov PART #esoteric : < 1463432973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: \x -> (\f x -> f) (\y -> x) ~> \x -> (\x -> \y -> x) < 1463432975 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something simpler, but for example, (\f x. f (f (f (f x)))) (\a y z. a (y z)) has (\x y z z1 z2 z3. x (y z z1 z2 z3)) as its normal form. < 1463432980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463433000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has more bound variables then you started out with. < 1463433025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dolio's example is pretty simple. < 1463433081 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dolio's is not fully named apart. < 1463433093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463433107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two bound variables called 'x' in there. < 1463433150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm looking for something stronger where doing alpha only up front doesn't work) < 1463433151 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463433162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, fair enough. < 1463433671 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, you just need to keep the bindings in order, appending new bindings to the start of the binding list, and look up the first binding to a given name every time. < 1463433701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't the two lines posted above counterexamples to that? < 1463433744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1463433789 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ’ < 1463433838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK] < 1463434174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl (\c -> c c) (\a b -> b (a b)) < 1463434174 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ c -> c c) (\ a b -> b (a b)) < 1463434255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463434285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (\c -> c c) (\a b -> b (a b)) < 1463434285 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id (ap id) < 1463434293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :given no suggestions... this is really slow and mostly untested, but it should interpret the code correctly: < 1463434294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl ap id (ap id) < 1463434294 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ f -> return ((\ a -> a) f ((\ m h -> (m >>= \ i -> return ((\ b -> b) h i)) h) f)) f) < 1463434295 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/bp-brainfuck-jonripleylostkng.BytePusher < 1463434321 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463434392 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :expect weirdness and perhaps a "Yield Failure" - that means I made the interpreter too fast. < 1463434470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463434470 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463434968 0 :tromp_!~tromp@24.190.11.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463435184 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463435230 0 :tromp_!~tromp@24.190.11.216 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463435351 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463435587 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no fizzie today? < 1463435596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No fizzie? < 1463435621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this was a ping in disguise) < 1463435644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what if mine was too) < 1463435660 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that woyld be too subtle for me < 1463435664 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many? < 1463435664 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: r5rs is the de facto standard < 1463435670 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would. < 1463435670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1463435688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1463435688 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1463435696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1463435696 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1463435732 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: strong disagree < 1463435732 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 02:15, june 12, 2007.. 76.184.221.233 ( talk block) ( removed dollar sign wikilinks) < 1463435759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't you quote commit logs at me < 1463435759 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then its done, once these steps are completed the article is fnord erroneous and needs to be added to the article quality at all. < 1463435765 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: again with less dates and numbers? < 1463435765 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ' ' ' does this imply someone removed an innocuous link to a site called ' fnord'" < 1463435775 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think it does! < 1463435775 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: otherwise send this article to its fate. the moment he agreed to delete her from his mind. i think there is a major cabinet portfolio but then we're told that peters is outside cabinet. how are those reconciled? i see there is grounds for coverage for this controversy fnord said fnord < 1463435786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilsner < 1463435799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote alphanum < 1463435799 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION baps fungot < 1463435799 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ' ' ' fnord fnord'" is being used under wikipedia:fair usefair use but there is < 1463435807 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463435808 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tja shachaf < 1463435812 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just... what? < 1463435825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does fnord come into wikipedia talk pages < 1463435832 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just fnords right in there < 1463435843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1136) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." < 1463435844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It's all over the place. < 1463435855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't see the fnords? < 1463435874 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fnords could also be [REDACTED] < 1463435927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1463436084 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463436328 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl f a = \a -> a < 1463436328 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a a = a; < 1463436367 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl \a -> \a -> a < 1463436367 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ a a -> a < 1463436370 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1463436390 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is just golden. < 1463436394 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- TODO: avoid captures while substituting" < 1463436396 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that just const? < 1463436400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463436408 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: yes but that's besides the point. < 1463436425 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: the point is that both inputs are legal, and both outputs are illegal in Haskell < 1463436476 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I guess it's flip const. Whoops < 1463436534 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what point in computational power hierarchy does it become possible to construct an "universal X-machine" < 1463436565 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, a machine of computational power X able to be emulate any other machine of the class given right input < 1463436618 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-stack PDA not possible, and turing machine possible, but say is it possible to construct "universal primitive recursive function" < 1463436783 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I don't think you can do that. a primitive recursive function is always time bound by some knuth arrow function of its input size, with a fixed number of arrows, so if you take any one, then it can't emulate primitive recursive functions with a higher number of knuth arrows. < 1463436836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463436928 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: does that make sense? < 1463437018 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :This code is evil... it takes a shortcut: Rather than traversing the AST and keeping track of free names, it relies on a Generic instance and uses "everywhere" to substitute variables by a new expression. < 1463437070 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah. was just thinking that as primitive recursive's time is limited by input, if you could encode in the input how much time it'd need, but I guess it cannot work < 1463437146 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463437202 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463437204 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl \a -> b (\c -> b) a < 1463437204 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b (\ c -> b) < 1463437208 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl \a -> b (\a -> b) a < 1463437208 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ a -> b (\ a -> b) a < 1463437225 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463437339 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463437505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463438602 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463438852 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj rare words have been pruned from some models, and in those cases fungot renders OOV words as 'fnord' < 1463438852 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463438852 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please go to fnord image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with wp:fufair use. < 1463438854 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463438873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that thing's gone through the laziest wiki markup removal in the word. < 1463438885 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463438893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois spoilers < 1463438950 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wp:fufair use" comes from [[WP:FU|fair use]] or some-such. < 1463438983 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiziello. what's a wp:fu? < 1463438990 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And similarly for the earlier "wikipedia:fair usefair use". < 1463438998 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: See recent fungot babbling. < 1463438998 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a few years before there really is any version of the bible", thomas nelson publishers ( nashville, fnord, < 1463439014 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION consults the fungot < 1463439014 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ' ' ' fnord'" is being used on this article. < 1463439041 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: greet boily < 1463439041 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i could not give a fnord if na was gay. in other words, it doesn't add much relevance to the rest of the article mentions a " cliff". span style="border: 1px solid fnord style="background: fnord 20:37, 29 november 2007 ( utc) < 1463439063 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1463439065 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solid fnord. < 1463439091 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsnorder. < 1463439104 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnorboily < 1463439105 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style homestuck < 1463439105 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) < 1463439124 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's do something different, the wp style makes me just sad about how lazy I've been. < 1463439135 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't think this one was a particularly good one either. < 1463439193 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1463439194 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: at the time of impact, a large, white structure that looked like a blue one too which was way more awesome shades in the style his bro dropped. she knows it. she's a huge culprit was. you can still be a way that it shakes is the same. trolls think fashion is stupid. stop doing nothing but wondering what could it be the same as the word " crazy" < 1463439232 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaguely coherenty < 1463439651 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463440198 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463440387 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463440475 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ergxnuhsrzzlyhax JOIN :#esoteric < 1463440555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463440637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1463440737 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl \join -> join < 1463440737 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ join b -> b >>= \ a -> a < 1463440752 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING WORKS. < 1463441009 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INT_ELLO. < 1463441319 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for yelling, but this is painful. < 1463441483 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... there's a TODO for that as well: "-- TODO: more generally correct would be to not substitute any variable which is bound by a pattern" < 1463441961 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing permanenter than a temporary thing hth < 1463441999 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EPISCOPAL CHICKEN < 1463442020 0 :jaboja64!?@? NICK :jaboja < 1463445258 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463445713 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: tswett < 1463445905 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463445981 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1463446293 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463446649 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A TODO is like a check you write yourself for a million dollars. It'd be great if it went through one day, but they tend to just bounce until you lose hope and start writing Java < 1463447636 0 :Mike_!4772513a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.81.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463447660 0 :Mike_!?@? NICK :Guest60822 < 1463447674 0 :Guest60822!4772513a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.81.58 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, I had a few questions about the few questions about thue < 1463447739 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How meta. < 1463447936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just go ahead and ask, although I don't think resident Thue experts are present at the moment.) < 1463447964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawyerth? < 1463448319 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1463448319 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstring/strtok/ < 1463448325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an actual function in C < 1463448342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone thought this was a good way of implementing a string split < 1463448381 0 :Guest60822!4772513a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.81.58 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463448468 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's traditional. < 1463448490 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling strtok on a string literal is one of the constantly recurring ##c topics. < 1463448597 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runc #include \n int main(void) { strtok("foo bar", " "); } < 1463448607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/runc: line 3: 300 Segmentation fault $t < 1463448613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I worked on a program that used strtok to parse argv. < 1463448613 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463448637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was pretty confusing to look at it in the process list. < 1463448679 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That rings a bell, probably seen it happen as well. < 1463448701 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick. < 1463448722 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463448734 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463448764 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463448790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :strtok ought to use self-modifying code. < 1463448832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And instead of strtok_r, you should be required to copy the code of strtok into a new writable executable buffer. < 1463448846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you can keep the same API. < 1463448979 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C99 rationale says strsep was rejected because "it's easy enough for a user to provide this functionality, and it is unclear that an implementor can do a substantially better job; so, there was not sufficient support for adding this feature." < 1463448991 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strsep also modifies the string, but at least it uses a strtok_r-style scheme for keeping the state in the caller.) < 1463449064 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, arguably even a more reasonable one, since it avoids that nonsense about passing NULL as the first argument.) < 1463449506 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463449741 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463449891 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463450345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463450900 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463450913 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is "polynomial time" named as such in computer science? < 1463450969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the time used is bounded by a polynomial in the input size. < 1463451027 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463451236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but why isn't it called "monomial time" < 1463451236 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and NP being when there is no final halting of the computations? < 1463451289 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish that when C11 hit they also added the POSIX-only thread safe versions of functions (such as strtok_r). < 1463451293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: no, the N in NP is for "nondeterministic" < 1463451321 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok. thank you < 1463451333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i which means it's bounded by a nondeterministic polynomial < 1463451340 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nooo, they only added something with the same functionality as strerror_r, only more painful to use. < 1463451344 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1463451347 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strerror_s :() < 1463451444 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: strtok_s is in C11, right? < 1463451453 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, optionally. < 1463451479 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, they did add that too. < 1463451507 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still basically strtok_r only less convenient. < 1463451542 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, the *_s functions. Functions only implemented (in a non-conformant way) by a vendor that can't be bothered to implement C99, but managed to push features in C11 anyways. < 1463451578 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, C99 is 9 times as hard to implement as C11. < 1463451620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463452366 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: NP is the class of decision problems which are solvable in an amount of time bounded by a polynomial in the input size, on a nondeterministic Turing machine -- which is like an ordinary Turing machine, except that you can have multiple transitions for the same initial condition, and the machine takes both paths simultaneously (which means that you can have an exponential blowup in the number of states that the machine/tap < 1463452366 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is presently in). < 1463452407 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically Turing machines with unbounded parallel forking < 1463452434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people take nondeterministic machines as a primitive? < 1463452461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't exactly have anything against them, but they seem like a bit of an odd and arbitrary construction. < 1463452517 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: thank you < 1463452558 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? np < 1463452578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :np? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463452628 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: At this point it's got to be mainly that there are interesting difficult problems to be solved. < 1463452652 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :P vs. NP is almost motivation enough :) < 1463452663 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nondet. machine seems to mean a machine with unlimited power of computation < 1463452682 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1463452696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should think of it as "always taking the right path" rather than "taking all paths". < 1463452700 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can do the exactly same kind of computation, only the performance differs < 1463452724 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(exponentially) < 1463452741 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: step by step algorithms? < 1463452746 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463452758 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Another way to look at it is that NP is the class of decision problems for which a polynomial-length certificate can be constructed such that given that certificate, the solution to the problem can be checked in polynomial time. < 1463452770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1463452772 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: as "kind of computation" < 1463452798 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I think I cannot understand what does it mean < 1463452966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: That's fine, but then people start asking about the "N". < 1463453703 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463453908 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: I'm not even angry now < 1463454006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463454189 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463454210 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463454820 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463456973 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463457065 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463457237 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463457336 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463457372 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463458452 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463459943 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463460179 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463462593 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463463123 0 :Cale_!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:6081:c285:93ff:a06c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463463207 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:79ee:f494:ca2f:376d QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1463463260 0 :Cale_!?@? NICK :Cale < 1463464491 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463466226 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463466483 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463468202 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1463468537 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:f9b2:77bb:81be:3a44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463468623 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463469335 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ergxnuhsrzzlyhax QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463472070 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-meqgxiqllahrelcs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463473429 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463473642 0 :J_Arcane__!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463473702 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463473739 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1463473742 0 :J_Arcane__!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1463477110 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463477199 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card nightmare < 1463477290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spellgorger Barbarian \ 3R \ Creature -- Human Nightmare Barbarian \ 3/1 \ When Spellgorger Barbarian enters the battlefield, discard a card at random. \ When Spellgorger Barbarian leaves the battlefield, draw a card. \ JUD-C < 1463477291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Why do people take nondeterministic machines as a primitive?" => probably at the influence of Chomsky? or did it start before him? < 1463477409 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463477944 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 QUIT : < 1463480973 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463481069 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463482600 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463482646 0 :moon_!~Moon___@tx-76-1-78-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463483336 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463483378 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463483468 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1463483477 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463484381 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463484655 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463485009 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you moon ranges? do you even have buttocks to moon ranges with? < 1463485009 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so this is the same. trolls think fashion is stupid. stop doing nothing but wondering what could it be the same but different too m4ny h1ghly just1f1abl3 4nd w3ll d3s3rv3d punch3s w1ll b3 thrown 1n du3 t1m3 < 1463485031 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't punch me. it's uncouth hth < 1463485031 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in a good way though you are not really sure that we will meet again! not even a gulli8le dope like you. < 1463485060 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eille. < 1463485060 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but that jackass won't shut up and stop the thief in the throes of an unraveling alibi. " the massacre of syrs gnelph was not as written a message you got, my brother, and we just keep the safe or tub handy or the other, to function as the better half. the two partners in a strong pale relationship will serve to balance and complement each other's, since there is no quadrant which naturally conceals two licorice scotty d < 1463485072 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles the fungot < 1463485072 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds?. perhaps to leave that crap in the shitty scifi novels where his favorite movies. he would just go on and on about it. < 1463485403 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463485741 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463486117 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463486365 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463486808 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463486840 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463486997 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463487097 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: *You* just go on and on about it. < 1463487097 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for a while it was frustrating. wasn't nothin but misfortune... < 1463487100 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1463487737 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463487740 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1463487745 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1463487802 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:f9b2:77bb:81be:3a44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463487833 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he chilline for one out of the apple mashed. \ Sprinkle the parsley and flour and set aside. Fry the chops to a \ boil, and simmer for about 30 minutes, or until the mixture is \ coated and all the beef dispalles are done. \ \ 2. In a large bowl mix beans, and salt in skillet over medium high heat, inchen and \ until soft comes out. Reduce t < 1463487840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463487846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463487857 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1463487859 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1463487869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chopped onions; chopped \ 1 ts Salt and pepper \ 1 ts Salt \ 1/3 c Water \ 3/4 c Confectioners shortening \ 2 tb Chopped fresh cilantro \ 1 ts Salt \ 1/4 ts Ground cumin \ 1/2 ts Dijon; softened \ \ Mix ingredients in a large cookie sheet, about 3 minutes. Sprinkle \ peaches and parsley. \ \ Per serving: 207 mg chol cooled, 15 grams < 1463487869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patriarch's Desire \ 3B \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ Enchanted creature gets +2/-2. \ Threshold -- Enchanted creature gets an additional +2/-2 as long as seven or more cards are in your graveyard. \ OD-C < 1463487930 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LEG CHICKEN < 1463489747 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463490145 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463490599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463491595 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463491826 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463491863 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463492396 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463493208 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463493212 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463493519 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1463493693 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463494525 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: int-e: Just to keep you up to date on current news, we've migratated the domain over, and it's been renewed for a year as well. < 1463494532 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463494609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1463494809 0 :carado-!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463494845 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463494875 0 :carado-!?@? NICK :carado < 1463495205 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463495265 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you have a system that keeps "data" alive by just re-transmitting it < 1463495270 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never storing the whole data < 1463495301 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like delay line memory? < 1463495309 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are nodes in the internet, these nodes connect to other nodes. Everything a node receives, it just broadcasts it to the other nodes < 1463495337 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you read like I don't know 4MB chunks of data or something like that < 1463495346 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then re-transmit it to other nodes < 1463495353 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not storing what you have transmitted so far. < 1463495402 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting how much data you can store on the "line" < 1463495412 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes some time for data to arrive at the other endpoint. < 1463495430 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd probably work with just two nodes < 1463495437 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you send data, the other one sends it back < 1463495461 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount of data you can send before you receive the first byte back should be the amount of bytes you can store "in the interweb" < 1463495591 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you find what you're looking for? < 1463495622 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's another issue :D < 1463495639 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could tag streams somehow < 1463495641 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463495650 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the first few bytes are the id of the datastream < 1463495660 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just listen on the network until you find what you need then start logging the traffic < 1463495674 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can hardly delete anything. < 1463495735 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy < 1463495762 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go offline < 1463495801 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you broadcast to n-nodes each < 1463495806 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that won't do the trick :) < 1463495844 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't broadcast to more nodes < 1463495851 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1463495857 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run out of space < 1463495874 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1463495940 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can tag streams you can prevent that you re-broadcast the same thing more than once at the same time < 1463495965 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're already broadcasting stream N, and some node connects to you and broadcasts stream N you can deny that request < 1463496018 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be cases where you receive more than you can broadcast < 1463496046 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should give congestion signals back to the nodes somehow < 1463496055 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing them to send less data < 1463496070 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way if all the protocols work correctly together there should be an equilibrium of some sort? < 1463496977 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463497057 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like what you get when you're designing a normal distributed file system, but flip a minus sign for the "minimize bandwidth use" term in the cost function your design is trying to optimize. < 1463497264 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you could really make things work so smoothly that you'd have all the data in "the wire" without being ready to either buffer it at the nodes or lose it, because the "storage capacity" of the connection will clearly fluctuate a lot. < 1463497340 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1463497365 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically as soon as you have more data than you can send before receiving the first thing you've sent again you need to buffer it somewhere < 1463497374 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463497395 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It all sounds vaguely familiar, but I seem to be finding only boring reasonable pages when looking up what I'm vaguely recalling. < 1463497404 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the idea as that some of the data is buffered by routers and network equipment of ISPs < 1463497411 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :On cloud storage and organizing cables on your desk and such. < 1463497435 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, once they notice what you're doing they'll pretty much cancel your subscription :D < 1463497468 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i'll probably write some 1h hackish software and experiment with that < 1463497500 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would hardly require more than a bit socket code to get a first prototype working < 1463497524 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and test computers < 1463497724 0 :spiette_!~spiette@206.167.243.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463497880 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463498160 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rouphsggylgpadso JOIN :#esoteric < 1463498292 0 :spiette_!?@? NICK :spiette < 1463498773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1463499274 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463499543 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463499898 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1463500107 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463500666 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1463500954 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463501486 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463502625 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463502986 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:6081:c285:93ff:a06c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463503298 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463503546 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463503678 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.129 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1463503717 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463503752 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463504252 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :re < 1463504446 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463505539 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463506476 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463506742 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463508662 0 :MartinS!~monstre@217.118.81.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463508758 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463508950 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1463508951 0 :relrod_!~relrod@new.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1463508951 0 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1463509018 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463509266 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463509416 0 :MartinS!~monstre@217.118.81.25 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463510160 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463510452 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463512807 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good time to set an alarm for a 9AM exam < 1463512815 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1463512872 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 and every half hour between 7 and 9 < 1463512910 0 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't fully wake up until he's in a rage from 2 hours of alarms going off < 1463512926 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long will it take you to get there < 1463512946 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to have breakfast < 1463512983 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, fifteen or twenty minutes, and I'd like ten minutes for breakfast < 1463513001 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go every fifteen minutes from 7 to 8:30 < 1463513006 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those were my criteria... with the answer to the latter question being no... I just aimed to be there 10 minutes before the exam starts) < 1463513025 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although knowing me I'm gonna be so worked up about it I'll wake up at five < 1463513173 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh I'd plan for taking a shower < 1463513202 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:feff:ff:fe00:316b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 7 exams in 7 days, I'm afraid hygiene is not my highest priority < 1463513250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's good for relaxation < 1463513255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a shower will also help you think better < 1463513595 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463514155 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463514393 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463514567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463514761 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463515449 0 :relrod_!?@? NICK :relrod < 1463516136 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463516979 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463517539 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463517554 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463518290 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-098-064.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463519476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algebraic Chess < 1463519570 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, "algebraic chess notation" is not a notation for algebraic chess < 1463519864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463519873 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that sounds wise < 1463519880 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463519888 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algebraic chess notation < 1463519923 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't < 1463519950 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn algebraic chess notation/ algebraic chess notation is not a notation for algebraic chess < 1463519970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​αλτγρ+γ//αλτγρ+γ is the national dead pastry of Greece. Goes great with a glass of ouzo! < 1463519970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algebraic chess notation? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463519979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «algebraic chess notation» < 1463520023 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor oerjan < 1463520035 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll feel compelled to remove the inital space and add a period at the end < 1463520081 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he'll ramble about how he's retired < 1463520085 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`algebraic chess notation < 1463520087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: algebraic: not found < 1463520092 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?algebraic chess notation < 1463520093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?algebraic: not found < 1463520097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :space < 1463520097 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? algebraic chess notation < 1463520099 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ algebraic chess notation is not a notation for algebraic chess < 1463520104 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiine < 1463520111 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn algebraic chess notation/algebraic chess notation is not a notation for algebraic chess. < 1463520116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «algebraic chess notation» < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520125 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :548) I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1167) And neutrinos aren't small neutrons! They are small and neutral, though. So is Switzerland < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :696) fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord < 1463520226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :93) pikhq: from csh type ' exit', is a simple protocol which provides an interface to c. [...] < 1463520227 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :320) And if they wanted to go for "true" security, they'd just do "Warning: your computer has not been turned into a plasma. This may cause some of your personal data to be stolen. Click here to turn your computer into a ball of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace." < 1463520351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what if you just `sedlast s/.// < 1463520355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sedlast < 1463520358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :files="$(lastfiles)"; sed -i "$1" "$files"; echo -n "$files//"; cat "$files" < 1463520481 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that wouldn't have handled the leading space. though I guess I could have done two expressions? < 1463520495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't it? < 1463520509 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your expression only fixes one of the two errors < 1463520681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't notice that part. < 1463520721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/.//;s/$/./ < 1463520730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1463520766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not confusing enough. < 1463520813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedlast s;.;;;s $ . < 1463520814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1463520850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ' blah blah' | sed 's; ;;;s $ . ' < 1463520854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah. < 1463521289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai < 1463521522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I didn't even know you could use space. < 1463522398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463522399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Space is not used; it's occupied. For example: "What's your occupation?" - "About 80 liters." ) < 1463522434 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-148.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463522806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463522961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463523412 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Happy Norway something-or-another day. < 1463523436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what day it is, but the SIXT car rental company emailed me an ad about it. < 1463523473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's constitution day, aka our national day. < 1463523487 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Norwegians get happier and we are celebrating our country's birthday on May 17th. The streets will be filled with people wearing their national dress." < 1463523492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 10% of all car rentals. < 1463523548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(celebrating the signing of the constitution in 1814. although i vaguely recall claims it's a day off.) < 1463523585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't dress up, national or otherwise, although i did eat a better dinner. < 1463523697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1463523707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: were there fireworks? < 1463523708 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1463524064 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :molum < 1463524156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, that's only a new year custom. < 1463524208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, there are two parades and heaps of marching brass bands. < 1463524214 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1463524231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :molum: WHy do you change nicks all the time? < 1463524258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably speeches. not that i went. < 1463524271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Oslo there'll also be waving royals. < 1463524295 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: molybdenum mines (at least the one I know of) produce as byproduct lots of white(ish) sand. < 1463524296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: happy Napoleon crowned Emperor, 1804 day < 1463524316 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463524324 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hmm? I don't, AFAIK < 1463524332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you changed it just now. < 1463524337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you also changed to hive and back. < 1463524344 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I change to a nick, and then back, in which case it's probably a joke in another channel < 1463524348 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hive being one such one < 1463524368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 10% of all car rentals happen today? < 1463524432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're a few months off hth < 1463524448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :off what < 1463524456 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just 10% of all car rentals. No particular verb. < 1463524461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Napoleon's crowning anniversary. < 1463524470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was 2nd December. < 1463524510 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://googledrive.com/host/0B4J9OAzXNfZAelk5ZHdwZHlwWWM <- molybdenum mine byproduct sand pit. Or so I've been told. < 1463524514 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463524520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, perhaps < 1463524554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, happy Nauru constitution day hth < 1463524602 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, interesting < 1463524616 0 :molum!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks quite pretty < 1463524629 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Happy U.S. Department of Energy declassifies documents showing world's largest mercury pollution event in Oak Ridge, Tennessee (ultimately found to be 4.2 million pounds) day. < 1463524630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the _actual_ king involved was danish prince Christian Frederik, who only kept the throne for about 5 months. that part didn't stick. < 1463524663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he inherited denmark later, though.) < 1463524668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's happy about that < 1463524675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess declassifying documents is good < 1463524683 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it wasn't 5.2 million pounds. < 1463524813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was pretty close, though. < 1463524838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1463524856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, napoleon's emperor thing started on may 18 anyway < 1463524867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the thing we are celebrating was an attempt at norwegian independence (but keeping the same royal dynasty), which failed. and then somehow became the basis for gradually getting actual independence, 91 years later. < 1463524869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could there be a quaternionic 4D mandelbrot set? One which, of course, you can slice and browse? < 1463524885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it odd how some countries don't have independence day < 1463524919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do have an independence day, but it's not very much celebrated. < 1463524935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may be an official flag day. < 1463524974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, 7th June < 1463524993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, you were using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17 < 1463524995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thinking < 1463525023 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which independence day? the one when Széchenyi suicided, or the one after the first world war? < 1463525090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the one when we left Sweden behind. the one after the second world war is liberation day, which is May 8, and is at least somewhat celebrated. < 1463525133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway stayed neutral in WWI. < 1463525144 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1463525204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one after WW2 isn't called independence day because presumably no one considered the nazi government to have been legal in the first place. < 1463525221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, no one who counts.) < 1463525338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 4.2 million pounds is over 6 million USD < 1463525351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it was a lot more at the time < 1463525664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : he'll feel compelled to remove the inital space and add a period at the end <-- you forgot the capital tdnh < 1463525731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s.A < 1463525733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/sedlast: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/sedlast: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1463525744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/sedlast < 1463525748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i can't use it anymore < 1463525751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463525754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was a clever prank < 1463525811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedsecondtolast hth < 1463525828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i made that program, i'd need sedthirdtolast tdnh < 1463525894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s.A wisdom/'algebraic chess notation' < 1463525900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463526031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good show < 1463526111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1463526117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multibrot set with complex powers? < 1463526141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot? < 1463526186 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463526192 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emac//emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1463526195 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? MVS < 1463526197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MVS? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? VMS < 1463526203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VMS? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? MVC < 1463526206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MVC? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emacs < 1463526213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym MCV hth < 1463526215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1463526227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: careful, you're supposed to be retired < 1463526248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mandelbrot with a number other than 2 (Z=Z^2+c) < 1463526273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there's a sense in which they all look pretty much like the usual one, up close. < 1463526281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1463526302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the same reason that the usual mandelbrot contains many almost copies of itself. < 1463526303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Specifically, for multibrot n, it's like n-1 mandelbrot sets squished together < 1463526307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, they creep me out < 1463526318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: MCV = Mobile Construction Vehicle hth < 1463526338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot 2 is like 1 mandelbrot set squished together < 1463526349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, correct < 1463526358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean, I guess < 1463526409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wikipedia even talks about things like multibrot 2.3 (where that analogy breaks down), but there is no mention of multibrot i or 2+i < 1463526416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot 1, though... < 1463526447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's just a circle or something < 1463526455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait... < 1463526460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z = Z^0+c... < 1463526470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: part of the problem is that once you use non-integers, everything becomes multivalued. < 1463526480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, nothing is in multibrot 1 < 1463526484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, gets ugly branch cuts. < 1463526518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Because n^0 = 1, and 1+1+1+1+...+1+c diverges for all c < 1463526525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels clever < 1463526534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um that's multibrot 0. < 1463526567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, multibrot 0 has power -1 by my completely stupid definition < 1463526571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1463526575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Multibrot n has power n-1 < 1463526579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a bebrot then? < 1463526594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But yes, it would be 0 if you use a good definition (where mandelbrot is multibrot 2) < 1463526611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mandel=2*multi) < 1463526614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hm then i'm not sure whether shachaf got that or not. < 1463526624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait < 1463526627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hypermandelbrot < 1463526630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: got what < 1463526656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, i disagree with your analysis. multibrot 1 gives 1+c each step. < 1463526657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know mandelbrot is multibrot 2 < 1463526669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no added terms. < 1463526670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibrot 1 diverges everywhere except 0 < 1463526672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all works < 1463526675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right, shit < 1463526680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Knew I was doing something wrong < 1463526682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, it's multibrot 1. < 1463526692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above. < 1463526696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463526707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is in hyperbrot n if Z = Z[n]2+c diverges < 1463526708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not consistent with what hppavilion[1] said, isn't it < 1463526715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:05 oerjan: Specifically, for multibrot n, it's like n-1 mandelbrot sets squished together < 1463526719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n't// < 1463526728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or s/not /in/ < 1463526733 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off by one < 1463526734 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? off by 1 < 1463526743 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463526744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: YOU ARE INCONSISTENT < 1463526747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by one? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by 1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463526749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I AM < 1463526756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BUT ONLY ON WEEKDAYS < 1463526782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels clever again, but is more tentative this time < 1463526812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mandelbrot for the split-complexes or the duals? < 1463526828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multibrot_set just says "multibrot with d = " < 1463526836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing about subtract 1 from the exponent < 1463526845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I know < 1463526848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ing < 1463526859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I used a shitty definition of multibrot n that had a needless subtraction < 1463526881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also the talk page of that wikipedia page has a picture with a complex exponent hth < 1463526881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because it was convenient where multibrot n is n frankensteined mandelbrot sets < 1463526887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yay < 1463526897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok but you changed your definition in mid-conversation without telling anyone about it < 1463526905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought I did < 1463526909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Whoops < 1463526922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mandelbröt < 1463526925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandelbröt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463527010 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463527030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But hyperbrot? < 1463527032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: alas, i don't think there's an ö, even in german. < 1463527072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? almond bread < 1463527075 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almond bread? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463527181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn almond bread/Almond bread is a delicacy made from fractal dough. < 1463527186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «almond bread» < 1463527381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's mandelbrøt < 1463527398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Modern Gender Theory, or the 'Mandelbrot Sex', is..." < 1463527751 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463528271 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swedish bread is bröd, if that's indeed what you were talking about. < 1463528352 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to BLABAR (aka BLÅBÄR for diacritic-deficient people) the other day, a "Nordic concept store and cafe" hereabouts. < 1463528354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463528361 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have the typical Swedish incorrect cinnamon buns. < 1463528387 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blabar.london/ < 1463528504 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463528568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a Swedish incorrect cinnamon bun? < 1463528728 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The one that the majority thinks is correct, actually. < 1463528742 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://krausnickitchen.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/img_4711.jpg < 1463528755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a correct cinnamon bun? < 1463528785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish variant, which is rolled the other way around. < 1463528786 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fazershop.com/globalassets/inriver/resources/722c8801-0252-4c3b-9ee6-92bf0e552aca3.jpg < 1463528799 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I want a cinnamon bun of either kind. :/ < 1463528887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463529065 0 :molum!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463530058 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463530310 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :꙳ < 1463530413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: At first I thought you meant rolled counterclockwise rather than clockwise. < 1463530438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you care about the rolling direction? < 1463530851 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463531039 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-177-170.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463531130 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-098-064.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463531170 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-098-064.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463531302 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463531373 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1463531373 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463531424 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Comfort of the familiar. < 1463531440 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1463531488 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is a familiar? < 1463531550 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so swedes roll cinnamon buns azimuthally, while finns roll them longitudinally? < 1463531572 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1463531595 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\wooobackspacebackspacenobackslashesAAAAAAAAAAAabortabortabortaboren! < 1463531612 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to your eponymous backslashes? < 1463531633 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones rolled the "correct" (i.e. wrong) way remind me of http://gifflar.com/wp-content/themes/gifflar/images/cinnamon-bag.png < 1463531649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do swedish-speaking finn roll them? < 1463531655 0 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nick \oren\ < 1463531656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nick: not found < 1463531660 0 :oren!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1463531668 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn it < 1463531691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you'll have to roll your own cinnamon buns hth < 1463531698 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yeah, Pågen's Gifflar are kind of the cheapest possible borderline-acceptable rendering of the thing. < 1463531699 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463531700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've made them in the past, although i rolled mine incorrectly < 1463531727 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a couple magnitudes off the real thing, though. < 1463531772 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've had any cinnamon buns rolled the finnish way < 1463531784 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's something else that's annoying. In the Europe song The Final Countdown, the lyrics imply that the narrator is leaving Earth ("And maybe we'll come back / To earth, who can tell?"), and is going to Venus ("We're heading for Venus (Venus) / And still we stand tall"), but then they say: "With so many lightyears to go". What sort of Earth-Venus route *can* they be taking that has "so many ... < 1463531790 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :... lightyears". < 1463531793 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463531924 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: FWIW, I don't think the rolling has that much of an effect on the taste, and the BLABAR ones were perfectly acceptable. I just go "but that's wrong" whenever I see them rolled the usual way. < 1463531946 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: could you enthicken 幻 hth < 1463532035 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If any of y'all ever happen to be in the Finland, though, I'd recommend http://www.yelp.com/biz/caf%C3%A9-succes-helsinki-2 < 1463532105 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. “500 error. Woof, something went wrong. Sorry about that!” < 1463532114 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1463532119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, they might've left Earth a long time ago. < 1463532131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't saying that they're on Earth now. < 1463532142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was also using Yelp to look at cinnamon buns and I also got a 500 error. < 1463532147 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably. < 1463532255 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, maybe. But the first part is: "We're leaving together, -- And maybe we'll come back / To earth, who can tell? -- We're leaving ground (leaving ground) / Will things ever be the same again?" < 1463532259 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean, maybe you can read them as currently leaving some other place, and still "coming back" to Earth, but I don't think that's a very natural interpretation. < 1463532309 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course (at least in this transcription) it's a lowercase-earth, so maybe it's not Earth-earth. < 1463532358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've never heard that song. < 1463532404 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1463532410 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We find that strange. < 1463532430 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe I've heard it and I just don't remember. < 1463532467 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's more a thing over here < 1463532473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe they're using lightyears as a measure of time instead of distance. < 1463532477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. years. < 1463532509 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're a Swedish band, that could be. < 1463532514 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably just meant to be technobabbly and sound spacey < 1463532534 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music video has a sign on it that says "Rökning förbjudet" and all. < 1463532543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to just not know popular songs. < 1463532546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a few, though. < 1463532547 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/t"/n"/ < 1463532678 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Europe has achieved new attention in the US due to being featured in a GEICO Insurance cable television commercial campaign viewed for many months across the US in 2015-16." < 1463532854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :europe is so small that america hardly cares about it < 1463532859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/SLBqUWY.jpg < 1463533059 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it works like that < 1463533079 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way North America (and Greenland) is there too. < 1463533214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :qhoily < 1463533287 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœirjan. < 1463533416 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it makes you think, doesn't it < 1463533449 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings “you spin me right round ♪” < 1463533466 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( that burner makes a helluva noise... ) < 1463533569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What are the white things on the cinnamon bun? Sugar? < 1463533703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aVgZleqdy4 < 1463533719 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it's probably just map projections, they can be confusing like that. And yes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nib_sugar < 1463534952 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1463534953 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1463535408 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463535422 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463535725 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463536669 0 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463537408 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1463537668 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1463537691 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the grilf has got a new mechanical keyboard, and she wants to smack me with it to make sure it's solid enough... < 1463537695 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's life? < 1463537867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just crafted a portal2 badge < 1463537898 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a coupon for a game that looks fun that i would probably never get to play < 1463537905 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the kb nkro? < 1463538092 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? dunno? < 1463538197 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1463538251 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm battling against an old iMac, trying to install ubuntu on it. < 1463538286 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all-in-one desktop thing, from a friend's mom.) < 1463538294 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fungotting machine de mes deux qui veut rien savoir. < 1463538295 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: man. it just so happens that today, the 13th of april. another day of uneventful but highly satisfying deliveries. everyone is dead. in this timeline ( i.e. just scroll down, read it later, somehow. < 1463538296 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1463538300 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1463538387 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1463538413 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you're battling can you tell whether the mech kb is nkro? < 1463538485 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, NKRO. < 1463538625 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the Cooler Masters with cherry browns. the model was running at a good price on amazon.ca, which was quite unusual. < 1463538766 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqfcnnjhtrhocyxj JOIN :#esoteric < 1463538788 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1463538853 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine has cherry mx reds < 1463538855 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I prefer Ducky, but you don't look a gift keyboard in the switches. < 1463538868 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell her she should start learning steno < 1463538871 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never tried the reds. do they live up to the "cloud of boobs" hype? < 1463538875 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i got mine < 1463538883 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D < 1463538908 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've not heard this hype, but they certainly have no variations in resistance along their travel < 1463538913 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a fairly long travel < 1463538915 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, «Firefox ne peut établir de connexion avec le serveur à l'adresse en.wikipedia.org.» wtf. < 1463538929 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the french one < 1463538948 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Firefox ne peut établir de connexion avec le serveur à l'adresse fr.wikipedia.org.» < 1463538954 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot is going on. < 1463538954 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: good idea! the thought of that??? you are quite a sn0b simple. the defaced the walls of his room. john. return, he teaches her to fly a little higher, to see if john is of course. < 1463538993 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it reappeared... < 1463538998 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is spooked < 1463539018 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts a spookfish on boily's head < 1463539040 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wildly flails around with a spookfish on his head < 1463539072 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.typewriter.be/images/grandjean-03b.jpg ? < 1463539098 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the french steno layout? < 1463539117 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems weird < 1463539122 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also incomplete < 1463539127 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463539132 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it's right < 1463539147 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... something. it has keys. < 1463539173 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's time for me to reconcile my head with a carefully thrown pillow. < 1463539180 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonnuitopia! < 1463539191 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: WITH CHICKEN < 1463539240 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. apparently that is correct. < 1463539349 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://molarmanful.github.io/ESMin/ another golfscript cousin? < 1463539386 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463540185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463540699 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463541790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463541945 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463542267 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the steno theory, I guess < 1463543536 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: probably < 1463543939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463545866 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463546771 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463547094 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463547821 0 :P4g4n!~Pagan@67.219.148.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463547890 0 :P4g4n!~Pagan@67.219.148.18 PART #esoteric : < 1463548442 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463548829 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463550481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463551448 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463551531 0 :shikhin_!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1463551610 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463551644 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463551644 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1463551644 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1463551717 0 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463551749 0 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1463551974 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551975 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551975 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551975 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551975 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551975 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551976 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551976 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463551992 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1463552028 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463552051 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1463552440 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463552754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'oerjan' | sed soeø < 1463552755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ørjan < 1463552768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that won't show up properly in the logs < 1463552824 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ihysaikxxkpqkuqs QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463552866 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zehtrqbxobdalcgf JOIN :#esoteric < 1463554810 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chitandael < 1463554846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chitandael? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463554847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch-ch-ch-chitandael < 1463554896 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chitandael is an angel, like uriel or gabriel < 1463554914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it's not a pair of rescue rangers < 1463554951 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairly certain < 1463555061 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's actually a japanese pun about a chracter named chitanda eru) < 1463555138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mine is a pun about characters named chip and dale) < 1463555705 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1463555760 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463556077 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463556355 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463556413 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463556979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463557700 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Villains Journey? < 1463557737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, I'm not a fan of the Hero's Journey because it doesn't feature proper branching capabilities- you can never have a Hero's Journey tragedy < 1463557968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hero's Journey... 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NICK :Guest28296 < 1463565977 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463566279 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-177-170.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463566353 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 < 1463566620 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463566729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463568936 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqfcnnjhtrhocyxj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463569815 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463569910 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PART #esoteric : < 1463569975 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woke up in time for my exam but now I am really stressed < 1463570354 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@253.165.199.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463570357 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. which one is it today? < 1463570788 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This morning was Cryptography < 1463570791 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This afternoon is "Programming: Correctness by Construction" < 1463570865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand injury < 1463570867 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand injuries < 1463570902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand injury? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463570903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand injuries? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463570936 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sounds scary. < 1463570964 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. if you have injured yourself in the fiddly parts, please don't live any hard to clean bloodstains in the channel hth < 1463570979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn hand injuries/Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 or http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html < 1463570998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hand injuries» < 1463570999 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -vi wisdom/hand\ injur{ie,y} < 1463571002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot stat `wisdom/hand injurie': No such file or directory < 1463571004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -vi wisdom/hand\ injur{ies,y} < 1463571011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`wisdom/hand injuries' -> `wisdom/hand injury' < 1463571037 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@145.254.200.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463571071 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I suppose it'd be common in any career that involves fiddly but repetitive movement of hands < 1463571075 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, for example, drawing < 1463571103 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, I think it's just that we learn more about them when it happens to someone who can't draw when his hand is injured. < 1463571115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's common for everyone. Both my parents have hand hand injuries. < 1463571126 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1463571179 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's hereditary? < 1463571179 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother injured her hand when skiing, my father injured his with a saw when woodworking, my brother has a smaller woodworking injury too. < 1463571202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you don't know about those because they don't draw webcomics. < 1463571242 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's possible, although I haven't caught it yet. I get my injuries in my right knee, I get a new wound there every eight years, so it will soon be time for the fourth wound. < 1463571251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third has started to fade so it's high time. < 1463571271 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like hand hand injuries < 1463571295 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( punchline: it happened at their wedding ceremony while cutting the cake ) < 1463571309 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: to whom? < 1463571326 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Both my parents have had hand injuries." < 1463571327 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, the person holding up the cake < 1463571380 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int: ah I see < 1463571412 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I wouldn't know about that. They didn't invite me to the wedding, and it was back when photography was expensive, so there isn't much documented evidence about it. < 1463571471 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously I'm not claiming that this actually happened < 1463571540 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously I'm stating the obvious < 1463571606 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463571771 0 :Guest28296!?@? NICK :Lynn < 1463571801 0 :Lynn!?@? NICK :Guest49144 < 1463571832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463571853 0 :Guest49144!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-esngaxngkdeeczni QUIT :Changing host < 1463571853 0 :Guest49144!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1463571853 0 :Guest49144!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1463571853 0 :Guest49144!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-esngaxngkdeeczni JOIN :#esoteric < 1463572303 0 :Guest49144!?@? NICK :Lynn < 1463574139 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: BENEFICIENT CHICKEN < 1463574207 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463574479 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463574577 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463574638 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463575033 0 :kline!?@? NICK :edk < 1463575060 0 :edk!?@? NICK :kline < 1463575583 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:2885:db7:5bde:6c42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463575638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adopted < 1463575649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adopted? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463575698 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn adpoted/"Oh lord, we've adpoted another one." => Marten realizes how the webcomic he lives in works in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298 < 1463575703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «adpoted» < 1463575896 0 :Lynn!?@? NICK :lynn < 1463578094 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zehtrqbxobdalcgf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463578447 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn adpoted/"Oh lord, we've adpoted another one." (about Emily) => Marten realizes what kind of webcomic he lives in in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298 < 1463578460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «adpoted» < 1463579464 0 :impomatic!~impomatic@145.254.200.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463579618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tr < 1463579619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463579622 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? y < 1463579625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y is a commune in France. There's nothing funny about this. < 1463580155 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1463580156 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1463580158 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ymmw < 1463580158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ymmw? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463580686 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you happen to know an easy trick to format floating-point numbers as decimal scientific format, but with fewer digits in the exponent than the libc sprintf writes by default? < 1463580813 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463580841 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463580845 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the exponent just an (unpadded) integer? How could you have less digits than that? < 1463580873 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, it's usually padded with zeros to at least two or three digits depending on libc, and has the sign always present < 1463580905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the C standard doesn't specify how many digits are used, so libcs can choose on themselves < 1463580949 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is actually one of the easiest ways to recognize windows's libc, because it uses three digits, and that's propagated to lots of higher level programs or functions < 1463580987 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think I've seen any libc use only one digit though < 1463581083 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprintf "%e",exp(1) < 1463581084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.718282e+00 < 1463581097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that prints 2.718282e+000 on windows < 1463581121 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463581283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be 2 on glibc, right. < 1463581459 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The standard *does* specify how many digits there should be in the exponent, at least in C11, and the Windows libc is in violation. < 1463581499 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :C11 7.21.6.1p8 on the 'e' conversion: "The exponent always contains at least two digits, and only as many more digits as necessary to represent the exponent." < 1463581542 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does it now? I thought it didn't, and the windows libc was in violation "only" in how it formats and scans infinite, nan, and denormal values < 1463581599 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that way also in C99, but not in C89. < 1463581615 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a moment, I'll read up on this < 1463581621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463581632 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C89 it's only "at least two digits", without the "only as many more as needed" add-on. < 1463581768 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, C99 rationale: "For %e, C99 clarifies that small exponents contain at least 2 digits, but no more than are necessary to represent the value. Prior to C99, it was not clear that an arbitrary number of leading zeros were not allowed." < 1463581824 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're right, C99 and C11 do specify this. I didn't know that < 1463581904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so my question is how I use only one digit in the exponent when that's enough. < 1463581928 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're going to have to resort to doing string processing in C. < 1463581956 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Windows even support anything from C99 standard library (that isn't part of C++)? < 1463581979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1463582001 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: yes, these days (in MSVC 2013 and 2015) it has much of C99 and C11 implemented (not all though), < 1463582029 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: in particular it does implement the rint, trunc and the lrint, ltrunc functions. < 1463582047 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"C Runtime Library": "C99 Conformance -- Visual Studio 2015 fully implements the C99 Standard Library, with the exception of any library features that depend on compiler features not yet supported by the Visual C++ compiler (for example, is not implemented)." < 1463582049 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: the support was quite bad in older versions though < 1463582068 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1463582097 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's technically a bug, but I sorta doubt Microsoft would fix it because compatibility. < 1463582117 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be programs somewhere depending on three digits, considering this is Windows. < 1463582184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: I don't know about the three digits, but people almost certainly have files containing floating point infinites and nans formatted in windows's nonstandard format, and if they suddenly put a sand sscanf in the libc, the programs won't be able to read those back. It's a lose-lose situation. < 1463582200 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: The three digits exponent is less of a problem because at least sscanf is required to parse the float either way. < 1463582250 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfix: although octave, which normally prints arrays of matrices in as an aligned text-only table, does print unaligned tables on windows because it assumes the printf will use only two digits for the exponent < 1463582283 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the slightly misaligned tables isn't as bad as you could get < 1463583645 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463583647 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463583816 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1463583832 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463584231 0 :earendel2!~earendel@176.2.103.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463584248 0 :earendel2!~earendel@176.2.103.67 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463584387 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463584898 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463585087 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow... the power of certain bosses < 1463585153 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can send a mail that contains only generic words like "for your info" and a scanned pdf document, and you'll READ IT because they'll the boss and they really are so lazy they send mail masquarading as spam like that. < 1463586013 0 :Guest81064!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Changing host < 1463586013 0 :Guest81064!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1463586014 0 :Guest81064!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1463587132 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Quit: Let's jump! < 1463587226 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463587393 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463587420 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1463589133 0 :yorick_!?@? NICK :yorick < 1463590890 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463590897 0 :puregreen!~puregreen@nat4-minsk-pool-46-53-176-141.telecom.by JOIN :#esoteric < 1463592639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1463593254 0 :Vinkkamph!~BigBillyB@169-1-119-209.ip.afrihost.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1463593707 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-177-170.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463593713 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-177-170.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463593724 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-063-183-194.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463593871 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-037.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463593966 0 :Vinkkamph!~BigBillyB@169-1-119-209.ip.afrihost.co.za QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463593978 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-063-183-194.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463594410 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463595462 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463595613 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1463595637 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463595895 0 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1463598397 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463599335 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1463599874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463600470 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1463600507 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that on freenode you can't use hitler or fuhrer as a nickname? < 1463600534 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463600556 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but donaldtrump is valid < 1463600583 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is mussolini < 1463600726 0 :puregreen!~puregreen@nat4-minsk-pool-46-53-176-141.telecom.by QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463600740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463600946 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1463601005 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have... less than 18 hours to learn Galois Theory < 1463601009 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regret < 1463601037 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :great time to watch the first 7 harry potter movies < 1463601055 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to not fail university < 1463601090 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, that's why you're studying it 18 hours before the test < 1463601125 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1463601138 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think this through in the past 4 months, I'll admit < 1463601687 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463602793 0 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463603092 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1463603580 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463603737 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463604567 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bfoptdavxcqwdjfe JOIN :#esoteric < 1463604807 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463605194 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463606918 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :innerparty-chan < 1463606939 0 :innerparty-chan!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463606972 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463607238 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-012-189-037.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463608237 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463609287 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1463609754 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463609852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463609931 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463610195 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463610252 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I know the feelin < 1463610253 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1463610581 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you high on believin'? < 1463610729 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that I can learn Galois Theory overnight, yes < 1463610744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :galois theory is easy < 1463610753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have, like, field extensions and groups and stuff < 1463610771 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can learn it in half an hour hth < 1463610786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Any flour in your hair lately? < 1463610822 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, you know what they say. Watching fields scroll by for hours makes you a Galois expert overnight. < 1463610854 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do? < 1463610859 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might. < 1463610871 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not since March 2015. < 1463611098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: consider that by the time galois was your age he had been dead for almost two years < 1463611125 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the ending i expected after "by the time galois was your age" < 1463611127 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, by the time I was my age, he'd been dead for like 220 years < 1463611138 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, he died in a duel age 20 < 1463611146 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, it's much closer to one year < 1463611149 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only 21 < 1463611157 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1463611177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but he was ~1 year and 5 months old. < 1463611178 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking with his dick instead of his brain got him killed < 1463611190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're ~21 years and 6 months old < 1463611201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1463611211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, ~20 years < 1463611214 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out brains are better than dicks at thinking < 1463611215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway you're right. < 1463611285 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Galois died in a duel at age 17 months < 1463611290 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has really gifted < 1463611335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nothing. Grassmann died in a self-duel. < 1463611406 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the Klein Four Group has an excellent song < 1463611537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, i mean when he let his brain do the thinking he ended up in politics and little better off < 1463611554 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got a point < 1463611592 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which body part did all the maths? < 1463611601 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hands < 1463611601 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lungs < 1463611605 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pancreas < 1463611613 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you don't get any diabetic mathematicians < 1463611625 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463611651 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not many mathematicians without lungs either < 1463611664 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've met a few with gills < 1463611730 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do gills replace lungs? < 1463611751 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought fishes had lungs as well < 1463611768 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what do you think fish lungs do? < 1463611790 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463611810 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they had gills instead of a nose < 1463611828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463611837 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, gills are for breathing < 1463611842 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are noses < 1463611850 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: without lungs => http://www.xkcd.com/669/ < 1463611862 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I'd trust Phantom_Hoover on this one, he's the channel's best submarine jouster < 1463611866 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you want some undead or construct mathematicians < 1463611900 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just wait a couple decades for that < 1463611906 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :at most < 1463611911 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep giggling at "Narshmallow" (one of the post-it decorations at android.com/n -- the name-suggestion place). < 1463611975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :android nicotine < 1463612014 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound tasty at all. < 1463612040 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tastes like chewing tobacco? < 1463612075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :android nesquik < 1463612106 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android Newcastle Brown Ale < 1463612134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :android neufchâtel < 1463612261 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android Nettle -- it stings. < 1463612310 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android Nesquik with a screamingly delicious fternooner. < 1463612321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternoon < 1463612333 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1463612346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternoonest < 1463612353 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1463612357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1463612357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1463612357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoonest? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463612387 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463612413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463612699 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be funnier with a quicker bot < 1463612887 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463612967 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463613047 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MONUMENTAL CHICKEN < 1463613114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463613115 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fung... wait, where's fungot. < 1463613146 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463613156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: If you kept the wisdom database, it'd be much faster, right? < 1463613157 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it does replace stdout hello, world!". that's it. :) if your cs will be anything more than pass control to next. < 1463613179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that would be more convincing if you didn't have to restart fungot just to get that reply hth < 1463613180 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: imho? yes. does it do < 1463613206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: does it do be like it is? < 1463613207 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the more interesting it seems. those fnord beetles for instance) < 1463613283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'd stay away from fnord beetles < 1463613284 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: reactance is gimmicky and sucks!" " no, there's no, et cetera...) s-expression, or do they keep track of how the r6rs thing works? its just... madness! < 1463613359 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463613371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1463613371 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1463613378 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: reactance is great < 1463613378 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 tests, 1 assertions, 0 failures, 0 errors and putting the usual order ( var stuff...)) are equivalent programs. < 1463613562 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're not very well-tested. < 1463613562 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's very useful unless you're recovering from " fnord fnord! < 1463613629 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord fnord! < 1463613676 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463613710 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you ever really recover from fnord fnord. < 1463613719 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463613739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord < 1463613740 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is a fine language. i expect that you are able to neutralize it or shoot such quantities it to outer space. < 1463617141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463617562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463617838 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463619564 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463619946 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463620745 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463620911 0 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tiumfxbhwqbwclsg PART #esoteric : < 1463620911 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463621577 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463623052 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1463623784 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463623789 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463624171 0 :MDream!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463624611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463624896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463625234 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463625261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhoily < 1463625273 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bœrjansoir! < 1463625289 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now wonders if he lost count < 1463625329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1463625407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so. < 1463625424 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463625426 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. < 1463625427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think i should ahoi boily? < 1463625434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both o and p are on a day that my browser refuses to open inline :( < 1463625447 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oerjan is on an alphabeticrusade hth < 1463625471 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily is the canonical porthelloily. < 1463625857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463625951 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463625988 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: KOBOLD CHICKEN < 1463626107 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463626373 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qhiycnsnznvbqedx JOIN :#esoteric < 1463626381 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463626907 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: indeed < 1463627443 0 :noloveinwaikiki!uid156554@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfhjmrngybpcwetg JOIN :#esoteric < 1463627583 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463628908 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463628911 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1463628916 0 :FreeFull_!?@? NICK :FreeFull < 1463628937 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan: do you know if any progress has been made on efficiently simulating TMs with tag systems? < 1463628949 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or else a proof it can't happen) < 1463629242 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr the best is quadratic overhead, by someone improving the tag part of the rule 110 proof. < 1463629264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless that has been further improved. < 1463629308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's been further improved then ydstr that? < 1463629332 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he never heard about it < 1463629350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_110#Turing_machine_simulation_overhead < 1463629351 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadratic overhead is still better than the exponential overhead it used to be, yes? < 1463629362 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Did you hear about the recent results regarding BB(n)? < 1463629376 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2725 < 1463629408 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and there are some newer announcements in a post next to that < 1463629409 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Cale < 1463629415 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't ever seen you in here before < 1463629423 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly develop a taste for esoterica? < 1463629448 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was invited here when I was talking about my category-printf library < 1463629492 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which uses the co-Kleisli category for the comonad of functions out of a fixed monoid to implement a small typed Forth-like language and type safe printf format specifications. < 1463629518 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/category-printf-0.1.1.0 < 1463629520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: naturally. < 1463629527 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually remarkably practical! < 1463629549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently sorear has got it down nearly to 1000 states. < 1463629626 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: sounds right up our alley. who doesn't like printf? < 1463629643 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I finally understand what printf is, mathematically < 1463629667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe just under 2000. < 1463629687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: you should talk to mauke about it hth < 1463629699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the riemann hypothesis version that got under 1000. < 1463630671 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-82-208.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463631426 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-012-189-037.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463631630 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463631672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463631813 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:15c5:1173:6390:7ea6:8495 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463632414 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463632718 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463632818 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463632948 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463633126 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463634037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463634609 0 :notfowl!?@? 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NICK :unifowl < 1463638862 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-162-141.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463639036 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-012-189-037.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463639809 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463640540 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463641219 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1463642551 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463642552 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463643070 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rouphsggylgpadso QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463643294 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@vps2.conus.info QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1463643606 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463644874 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463644956 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463644987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce//Lettuce is a vegetable with two dressings, join and meet. < 1463645031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/lettuce < 1463645049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan oerjan < 1463645106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose a semilettuce is either herbivorous or carnivorous < 1463645233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn JIT is just in time compilation. < 1463645238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'jit': JIT is just in time compilation. < 1463645248 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true < 1463645260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s compilation < 1463645263 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JIT compilation is just in time compilation < 1463645274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/jit//JIT is just in time. < 1463645283 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1463645283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1463645298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a JIT is a just in time compiler. < 1463645313 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, clearly a JIT is a just in time decompiler. < 1463645334 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that a co-JIT? < 1463645355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not a cogent argument. < 1463645446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be more interested in a JTL compiler. < 1463645468 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a not-quite-in-time compiler? < 1463645471 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that has a use. < 1463645473 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compiles code after the instruction pointer left? < 1463645494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think that's the same as a just too late compiler. < 1463645500 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is. < 1463645516 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AABL compiler < 1463645529 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works out just fine if you then make the instruction pointer go in reverse. < 1463645543 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not reverse, to the start < 1463645544 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck implementing the implicit COMEFROMS though. < 1463645564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The Mill has two instruction pointers, one going forward and the other going backward. < 1463645564 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to finish every code with a platform dependent jump instruction < 1463645583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: alas, a bit late? < 1463645588 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How Millishly odd. < 1463645612 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking "always a bit late", but that might even be better :) < 1463645690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with the Mill a jump instruction moves both instruction pointers to the same point. Then they start moving in opposite directions from there until they encounter another jump. < 1463645700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you jumped them to two different points, and they converged? < 1463645768 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Imagine a compiler that emits an asm sequence that looks innocuous, but ends up actually running at a one byte offset from each of the instructions and does something malicious. < 1463645778 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly only really practical on x86. < 1463645819 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem, every other architecture should just qemu < 1463645830 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ugh*, qemu. < 1463645842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how's pooches? < 1463645851 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, qemu, an IEEE double is not a valid implementation of x87 floats. < 1463645865 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Fairly okay. Not much news of note though. < 1463645903 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463645910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x87 should use 87-bit floats < 1463645917 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat irritated by a "I will definitely get back to you on Tuesday" that I still haven't heard back from. < 1463645924 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, yeah. < 1463646535 0 :TellTogos!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463646677 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463647410 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's a difference with x86 then? < 1463647428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ? < 1463647441 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> shachaf: x87 should use 87-bit floats < 1463647443 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘shachaf’Not in scope: ‘x87’Not in scope: ‘should’ Not in s... < 1463647443 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘float’ (imported from Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ) < 1463647447 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh f... < 1463647459 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :| probably I should use this kind of quotation then < 1463647465 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, seems fine with bots < 1463649337 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qhiycnsnznvbqedx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463649743 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463650101 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463650326 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1463650326 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1463650647 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463650897 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a bot with prefix of `I`, and you will be kicked < 1463651126 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:99e8:cf7d:34b9:aa79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463651683 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x87 should use 87-bit floats" eww < 1463651859 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:60da:8437:a192:450e JOIN :#esoteric < 1463651967 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similarly to how x86 should have 86-bit GPRs. < 1463652002 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :86-bit 86 GPRs. < 1463653020 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and nintendo-64 should have a 64-bit cpu < 1463653679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did the 486 have ~486-bit cache lines? < 1463653949 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463653951 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... it's the 80486, and that's a lot of bits. < 1463655173 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463655456 0 :[SkindoO]!~SkindoO@197.116.176.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463655759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1463655926 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-137-157.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463656118 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-162-141.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463656152 0 :[SkindoO]!~SkindoO@197.116.176.58 QUIT :Quit: A friend is one who comes in when the whole world has gone out. < 1463656722 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-084-062-092-053.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463656787 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-137-157.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463657043 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463657121 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-084-062-092-053.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463657390 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-123.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463657531 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463657662 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-092-072-135-123.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463657690 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463657711 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-178-000-201-140.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463657792 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-187-129.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463658005 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-178-000-201-140.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463658075 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-187-129.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463658161 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-139-214.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463658722 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463658757 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463659204 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463660717 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PERFORATED CHICKEN < 1463660724 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-077-175-046.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463660853 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-139-214.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463660961 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cflcddsomqwmtppw JOIN :#esoteric < 1463661429 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-088-077-174-060.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463661441 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463661455 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463661491 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463661534 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-077-175-046.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463661582 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463662322 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:a076:e692:e7d3:c295 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463663223 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463663325 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463663706 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463663818 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463663943 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463664549 0 :TellTogos!?@? NICK :TellsTogo < 1463664912 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463664987 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463665017 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463665081 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463665865 0 :noloveinwaikiki!uid156554@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfhjmrngybpcwetg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463666425 0 :Melvar``!~melvar@dslb-088-077-174-060.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463666485 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ylgworzilkqqhklo JOIN :#esoteric < 1463666757 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463666843 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-144-255.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463666966 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-144-255.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463666973 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463667265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463668764 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463669000 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463669558 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463669668 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463669812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bakman329 5* 10New user account < 1463669846 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1463670915 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:60da:8437:a192:450e QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463670922 0 :Cale_!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:60da:8437:a192:450e JOIN :#esoteric < 1463671036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ListLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47043 5* 03Bakman329 5* (+803) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=ListLang |paradigms=imperative |author=[https://github.com/bakman329 Bakman329] |year=[[:Category:2016|2016]] |memsys=stack-based |dimensions=one-dime..." < 1463671414 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:a076:e692:e7d3:c295 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463671538 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463671940 0 :spiette!~spiette@206.167.243.3 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463671995 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463673209 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463673260 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463673934 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1463674468 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463674494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Chance14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47044 5* 03M654 5* (+2683) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Chance |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:M654|m654]] |year=[[Category:2016|2016]] |typesys= |memsys=tape-based |refimpl=[https://github.com/m654z/C..." < 1463674578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47045&oldid=47040 5* 03M654 5* (+13) 10 < 1463674597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:M65414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47046&oldid=47039 5* 03M654 5* (+18) 10 < 1463675110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1463675756 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463675764 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463676008 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463676030 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463676272 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1463676508 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463676537 0 :xenthree3!~xenthree3@h42-57.pool95-168.dyn.tolna.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463676538 0 :xenthree3!~xenthree3@h42-57.pool95-168.dyn.tolna.net PART #esoteric : < 1463676675 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1463677234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note: Wikipedia categories can be quite unintuitive and much broader than you expect. For example, every human is included in the category /applied ethics/ because humans are in /people/ which is in /personhood/ which is in /issues in ethics/ which is in /applied ethics/." < 1463677742 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D: < 1463677796 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it seems they should probably have "people" as in list of people in personhood < 1463677803 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :+not < 1463679600 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463679623 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463679873 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463680343 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463680376 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-144-255.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463680461 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-144-255.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463681243 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463682753 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463682763 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463682780 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1463683412 0 :Cale_!?@? NICK :Cale < 1463684214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463684892 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463685410 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463685990 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1463685990 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :*.net *.split < 1463686004 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1463686045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463686119 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463686265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463686266 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-esngaxngkdeeczni QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463686518 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom JOIN :#esoteric < 1463686541 0 :lynn!?@? NICK :Guest65370 < 1463686700 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463686915 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463687163 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463687280 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463688168 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463688516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463688568 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463688882 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463688988 0 :Guest65370!?@? NICK :lynnnnn < 1463691474 0 :TellsTogo!d458ff4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.88.255.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463692378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went shopping today and bought myself a new surge protector, < 1463692405 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my grandmother a grandmaphone, at least I hope it is one, I'm going to charge its battery then test it live now to see if it is. < 1463692519 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think grandmaphones usually have batteries. < 1463692536 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what? how would they work otherwise? < 1463692554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wind them up, don't you? < 1463692556 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1463692574 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need power for the mobile phone reception and for the light < 1463692593 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the loudscreamer < 1463692594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mobile phone reception? For playing records? < 1463692630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? it doesn't only play records, it works as a mobile phone but with a saner interface < 1463692693 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed the surge protector, and also tested what else is on the same fuse as the computer (the cable modem is, as well as two ceiling lamps). < 1463692696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It plays records and works as a mobile phone? < 1463692705 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem like it'd be all that mobile. < 1463692708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it primarily works as a mobile phone < 1463692733 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might play mp3 music from its sd card, but I'm not sure about that part and don't much care < 1463692791 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't play any sort of rotating disks < 1463692811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's not much of a grammaphone, is it? < 1463692828 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a grandmaphone (I hope), definitely not a grammophone < 1463692841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean gramophone? < 1463692845 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1463692848 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammaphone < 1463692855 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1463692856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :grandmaphone < 1463692870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "You mean not a gramophone?". < 1463692879 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah one of those huge cellphones with large keys < 1463692880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume a grandmaphone combines the best features of gramophones and grandmas. < 1463692887 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an emergency button for when they're having a stroke < 1463692933 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I think this one doesn't have an emergency button (you just dial 112 and press the green button, that's the GOOD interface because it works on every phone there is) < 1463693006 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it does have an emergency button apparently < 1463693044 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 is police here < 1463693066 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: 112 is the all-purpose general emergency number, in most of Europe these days < 1463693077 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know it < 1463693084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's handled by the police because they're the best equipped to serve as a call center these days < 1463693093 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1463693097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Isn't that too easy to accidentally dial on rotary phones? < 1463693103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I assume a grandmaphone is. < 1463693130 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: iirc people used to lock up rotary phones so that you couldn't deal most numbers < 1463693135 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, if you need some other sort of emergency, they can call it, but if you can't communicate properly or doing prank calls, then it's best to get the police to know about it rather than the other emergency services < 1463693147 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, it's not a rotary phone. rotary phones are almost extinct these days. < 1463693151 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why 112 113 and emergency numbers use low digits < 1463693162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why only grandparents use them. < 1463693179 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one in my room < 1463693183 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe, but in any case this isn't a rotary phone, it's a mobile phone < 1463693186 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have a landline anymore though < 1463693198 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 112 is easy to dial, even on a mobile phone, but not TOO easy, and this is a feature < 1463693213 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to dial it quickly even without looking, or to dial it on an unfamiliar phone < 1463693301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, apparently 112 even works in North America. < 1463693306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On GSM phones, at least? < 1463693326 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, and very likely 911 works here too. those are undocumented features that hopefully exist. < 1463693354 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: all the old emergency numbers _should_ work too, and I hope they do < 1463693386 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 112 is the recommended one, and the one that definitely works < 1463693391 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if i dial 911 for testing purposes? < 1463693405 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do they arrest me for disrupting a public service? < 1463693409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you should then talk to the operator and explain why you did it < 1463693423 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: if you do it only once and do talk with them, they probably won't arrest you, they have some grace < 1463693425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In .il, you dial 100 for the police, 101 for an ambulance, and 102 for the fire department. < 1463693428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a mess. < 1463693445 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait, are you asking about you in particular? they will arrest _you_ < 1463693450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not normal people < 1463693455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: What? I wasn't even asking. < 1463693541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why are you saying I'm not normal? < 1463693549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, is that intended as some sort of insult? < 1463693612 0 :lynnnnn!?@? NICK :lynn < 1463693623 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom QUIT :Changing host < 1463693623 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric < 1463693623 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host < 1463693623 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom JOIN :#esoteric < 1463693634 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, GSM networks in the US IIRC are required to accept pretty much any emergency number and map them to 911. < 1463693674 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463693679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: lynnnnnnnnnnn < 1463693683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have the same feel to it hth < 1463693715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You should send that person an angry email about how it's Thursday and how dare they. < 1463693787 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And relatedly, cell phone networks in the US are required to accept emergency calls no matter if it's from a paying subscriber or not... < 1463693791 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is fairly nice. < 1463693862 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(... also, phone companies aren't allowed to disconnect physical phone service, just change 'em to 911-only) < 1463694045 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463694124 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1463694127 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1463694132 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463695308 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463695602 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463695613 0 :`^_^!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463696029 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463696193 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463696254 0 :`^_^!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463697036 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a c++ compiler that emits c < 1463697113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a C++ compiler that omits C. < 1463697116 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463697142 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, a ++ compiler? < 1463697149 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how about both < 1463697150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1463697175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, emitting C is scow. < 1463697183 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1463697232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C isn't a good intermediate language. < 1463697243 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should emit C# instead < 1463697244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1463697284 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is the most portable one < 1463697286 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is especially a bad intermediate language when you have ABI concerns around. < 1463697296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How'd you do on Galois theory? < 1463697301 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well enough? < 1463697308 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you can't meet typical C++ ABI with C output. < 1463697326 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't figure out how to prove that pi/9 is an unconstructible angle < 1463697328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, of course you'd need your own name mangling etc. < 1463697355 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And global constructors wouldn't work well. < 1463697370 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a standard for name mangling yet? < 1463697431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Maybe Galois practice will be more successful. < 1463697520 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm what about a c++ to GObject compiler < 1463697541 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that a really evil idea < 1463697828 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463698090 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463698696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unreadable14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47047&oldid=46971 5* 03Timwi 5* (-6) 10update link to Esoteric IDE < 1463698741 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463698930 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463699113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463699366 0 :poq!sub@6.subspace.systems JOIN :#esoteric < 1463699493 0 :poq!sub@6.subspace.systems PRIVMSG #esoteric :where elliot and ion? < 1463699511 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463699525 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :poq, I haven't seen either of them in a long while < 1463699539 0 :poq!sub@6.subspace.systems PRIVMSG #esoteric :;[ k ty Taneb < 1463699552 0 :poq!sub@6.subspace.systems PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION :-* to the wind < 1463699556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You're in several channels with ion, at least. < 1463699566 0 :poq!sub@6.subspace.systems PART #esoteric : < 1463699568 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't pay attention < 1463699581 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strictly speaking, I've never actually *seen* either of them < 1463699591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The words or the people? < 1463699605 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume everyone in Hexham has seen everyone else in Hexham. < 1463699630 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott was a hermit and I didn't go out much < 1463699649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1463699666 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1463699738 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ylgworzilkqqhklo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463699784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanello < 1463699920 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463699989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1463699991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1463699995 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1463700033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is a renowned Capitalist? < 1463700040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he have a top hat? < 1463700041 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing that this bio includes no mention of portmantelleau < 1463700107 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1463700108 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1463700144 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm the least quirky person < 1463700161 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quintopia < 1463700162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quintopia: not found < 1463700165 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?quintopia < 1463700166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?quintopia: not found < 1463700171 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdi < 1463700173 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quintopia < 1463700174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. He is flooded by thundercats and thunderdogs. He is the temporal antipode of boily despite living on the same continent. < 1463700275 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1463700277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, disliking bell peppers makes you quirky now? < 1463700278 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf! < 1463700281 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copprello! < 1463700283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1463700284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1463700319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/l\./l with a passion./' wisdom/oerjan < 1463700321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463700323 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cosplay is pretty quirky < 1463700323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463700339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ask Fiora what that's about. < 1463700447 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if she'll ever come back to the chännel... < 1463700448 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bell peppers are great < 1463700476 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bell peppers are delicious. < 1463700519 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bell peppers < 1463700520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bell peppers? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463700875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd seems... out of place < 1463701006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/ante/anti/ wisdom/oerjan < 1463701011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463701047 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. what about it? < 1463701060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It looks like xkcd isn't the webcomic is should go in < 1463701073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < bell peppers are the worst invention in culinary hisstory < 1463701114 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's not the weekend yet < 1463701128 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What isn't? < 1463701130 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], i think randall's moving into totally batshit surreal humour < 1463701135 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i approve, can't be worse than xkcd < 1463701202 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, by "it" I was using the impersonal pronoun, to state that the current day is neither Saturday nor Sunday < 1463701211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Oh, I follow. The :33 thing. < 1463701219 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1463701223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that constitute a costume? < 1463701240 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb and shachaf are making as much sense as fungot... < 1463701240 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in 5min that is, play stupid and violent games on a 3x3 array of lcd monitors < 1463701242 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as I only see you online, I think so < 1463701262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, I've invited you to California multiple times. < 1463701271 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i come to california < 1463701275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If nothing else, to take a big pile of Magic: The Gathering cards off my hands. < 1463701278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes hth < 1463701285 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, alas, I cannot afford travel < 1463701296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just interview at some company and have them fly you over. < 1463701303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The copumpkin trick. < 1463701305 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And paying to travel to California specifically to take your Magic cards would violate my oath < 1463701306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the sale value of the mtg cards greater than the cost of the flights < 1463701334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be in a few decades. < 1463701347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't guarantee to keep the offer open until then. < 1463701385 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also applying for a job interview in the US would violate my other oath < 1463701391 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only two oaths < 1463701391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your oaths? < 1463701408 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) not to spend money on Magic: the Gathering; 2) not to work in the US < 1463701437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously you would travel for other reasons. < 1463701446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you swear not to work in the US? < 1463701455 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're having another guild tournament this summer at the office. I got Gruul this year ^^ < 1463701467 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure companies (at least usually) won't actually force you to become an employee even if you interview. < 1463701495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can have your all-expenses-paid interview trip, and then just cordially decline their offer. < 1463701514 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm just worried about living in a country that has no national healthcare and high firearms ownership < 1463701519 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hmm, that is a point < 1463701530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, of course I didn't mean you'd accept the offer. < 1463701551 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't pick companies with too many international offices, like I did. I only got to visit London and Aachen. < 1463701562 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, poor you < 1463701567 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being forced to visit London < 1463701583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, what if you live in a country with no national healthcare but you make a lot of money? < 1463701594 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should canada. we have healthcare! and meese! < 1463701603 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it'd be ideologically wrong < 1463701607 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, far more tempting < 1463701609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but what isn't? < 1463701616 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, working in Canada < 1463701685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could go work in Vancouver and visit the US on weekends to cosplay Karkat Vantas. < 1463701711 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one option < 1463701716 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :East Coast Best Coast. < 1463701726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :West Coast Best Coast < 1463701730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :East Coast Least Coast < 1463701743 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I find you suggesting that I visit your country to cosplay a character Nepeta Leijon had a crushs on... suspect < 1463701754 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I agree < 1463701761 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was born on the east coast! < 1463701762 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1463701764 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An east coast < 1463701770 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I had to check my Shipping Wall. < 1463701776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i shipping and handling wall < 1463701814 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtual, or corkboard with printed photos of every character, with coloured strings pinned between them? < 1463701834 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1463701844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463701853 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, painted in blood on a cave wall, I believe < 1463701930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Which east coast? < 1463701941 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, the one in England < 1463701947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should move to the US and start a revolution. < 1463701965 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland doesn't even have an east coast. < 1463702014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If I remember correctly Google does EMEA SRE interviews in ZRH? < 1463702016 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you lack ambition. conquer Russia! < 1463702019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's scow. < 1463702026 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should let you do them wherever you want. < 1463702041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else are you supposed to travel to the US? < 1463702060 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I've heard something like that as well. And, well, I think you're supposed to travel to the US by accepting the offer. < 1463702077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, it's too late by that point. < 1463702091 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a visit to Cambridge, MA and Chicago, IL in August, incidentally. < 1463702102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Mountain View, CA? < 1463702122 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that'd have been a bit too much. < 1463702134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! You can't not go to MTV. < 1463702172 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm pretty capable of not going there, I've successfully not gone for a while now. < 1463702209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it all the harder to avoid this time. < 1463702228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will you be in MA? < 1463702270 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone else I have anything to do with will either be coming from MTV to Chicago (it's a summit kind of thing) or is in Cambridge. < 1463702281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Summit? < 1463702285 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's concievable I've been to Mountain View < 1463702290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're all going to get drunk? < 1463702293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a team of sorts. < 1463702295 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've definitely been to CA when I was very small < 1463702306 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped last year's, but that sounds plausible. < 1463702321 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people are coming from MTV by train. < 1463702336 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's a scenic way to come by train. < 1463702342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which people? You should mention that in #trains. < 1463702353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least one person who works at the Cambridge office there. < 1463702398 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...looking at where I remember going in CA < 1463702410 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's concievable I've been within 400 miles of Mountain View < 1463702471 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AMTRAK is like the Orient Express of the USA. It'll be a special time." < 1463702478 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been in the Bay Area? < 1463702513 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be something called the California Zephyr. < 1463702522 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not as far as I'm aware < 1463702534 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember Universal Studios which apparently is in Los Angeles < 1463702534 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas. < 1463702540 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it is. < 1463702540 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only 3 years of age < 1463702547 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is a good drummer? < 1463702570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is it immoral for me to live in the united states < 1463702570 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an odd question to ask, quintopia < 1463702590 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be more or less odd to answer? < 1463702598 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it isn't immoral to me, you live there of your own free will < 1463702598 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take that as your answering "not me" < 1463702604 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how bout you? < 1463702617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a drummer at all. < 1463702623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike drums. < 1463702637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is it immoral to me, though < 1463702639 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzello! drums? < 1463702647 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that depends on your morals < 1463702977 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it immoral if you aren't a citizen of another country and thus have real issues living anywhere else? < 1463703005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have all sorts of citizenships, though. < 1463703058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, but the other countries have mandatory military service. < 1463703103 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but IIRC you've got the right to live anywhere in Schengen, so hey. < 1463703127 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two with the vague possibility of a third < 1463703138 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of which as far as I am aware have mandatory military service < 1463703144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I think the exemption specifically relies on me living in the US? < 1463703147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually sure. < 1463703152 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], summary of my collated research on today's xkcd: < 1463703153 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : after extensive research i have concluded that the joke is that as it is spring there are rabbits around and people take pictures of the cute little ones < 1463703153 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : half of the joke appears to have been left out of the comic and the remainder has been extrapolated grotesquely by randall's blackbird-like comedic timing < 1463703164 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No drums. < 1463703179 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I have a unicycle if it helps < 1463703241 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: will that help us start an esoteric band < 1463703244 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Huh. I woulda figured it would be on you not living in the countries in question. < 1463703260 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I believe bands are made more esoteric if they have a unicycle < 1463703260 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I am in no way an expert on mandatory military service requirements in other countries. < 1463703266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did you ever get emails from Skyrock Adventures? < 1463703274 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my knowledge. < 1463703290 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I cannot yet ride said unicycle < 1463703303 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: more eccentric, certainly. more esoteric though? < 1463703311 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would certainly hope you couldn't get in a situation where you would be forced to engage in mandatory military service in two countries *simultaneously*... < 1463703322 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, only a select few people can ride a unicycle < 1463703334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a select few fewer than few? < 1463703335 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of which are here? < 1463703338 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, especially if said countries were at war < 1463703346 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Finland, the military service is optional if you have a second nationality and haven't been living in Finland for the last seven years or more. < 1463703351 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not necessarily, but it is more prestigious < 1463703367 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which is only half the situation for shachaf, unfortunately. < 1463703376 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't the foggiest clue how that works for Israel. < 1463703395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, is that true? But what happens when you move to Finland for seven years? < 1463703424 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you are stationed in Finland while in another nation's military < 1463703446 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you work a lot of overtime < 1463703472 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That typically is not considered "living in the country", bizarrely. < 1463703476 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If you move back to Finland while still <= 30 years old, you'll need to do it; if older than that, they'll just forget about it. < 1463703483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1463703496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I can just wait [redacted] years and then move to Finland, I guess. < 1463703511 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so you originated in finland? < 1463703523 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you have one of those ridiculous names by birthright? < 1463703529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, fizzie did. < 1463703627 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently the 7-year rule is also just the threshold after which it's automatic. You can apply for an exemption even if you've been away from Finland less than that, if you're sufficiently free of connections to Finland.) < 1463703644 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just the boring one nationality. < 1463703659 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, I only have US citizenship. So boring. < 1463703672 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have followed this convo more closely < 1463703674 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lost < 1463703689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463703690 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather better than a US green card though. Many of the related obligations without many of the rights. < 1463703708 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will head to bed now < 1463703710 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1463703722 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep meaning to get an irish passport < 1463703726 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the sake of having one < 1463703748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1463703751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antidiluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1463703758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat. < 1463703766 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, if the UK leaves the EU I'll be doing my best to get a Netherlands passport < 1463703771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/anti/ante/' wisdom/oerjan < 1463703774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, you've been known to kick people who flood the channel < 1463703775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463703779 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh good point i should get on that < 1463703791 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the UK leaves the EU, I wonder whether they'll kick me out. < 1463703798 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, getting a Netherlands passport? < 1463703802 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :god the border situation's going to be a clusterfuck once that happens < 1463703813 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you live in the uk? < 1463703830 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That would be such a clusterfuck. < 1463703846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: TOO LATE < 1463703852 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, the UK being in Schengen is not directly related to them being in the EU. < 1463703868 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, since January last year. < 1463703872 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible they could leave the EU but still be in their weird half-Schengen state. < 1463703881 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: apparently you mildly dislike puns with a passion too hth < 1463703907 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ireland in schengen? presumably not since in practical terms the borders work the same as the UK < 1463703922 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's got the same deal as the UK < 1463703922 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hmm, where < 1463703951 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Half-Schengen. They're on the same bizarro thing where they agree to many of the terms such as the right to residence for Schengen citizens, but not the open border. < 1463703975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only puns masquerading as stupid typos hth < 1463703983 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: London. < 1463704023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I heard the new London office was going to be pretty good. < 1463704052 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, I mean, there's two. < 1463704070 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There's the one we're moving in soon, that's just a boring old office building rented from someone. < 1463704091 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And then there's the new building Google's building from scratch, that's supposed to be incredible and all that. < 1463704103 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the latter doesn't actually exist. < 1463704106 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, they're still building it? < 1463704108 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been years. < 1463704112 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They haven't started yet. < 1463704117 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iplkjibrewxgqhby JOIN :#esoteric < 1463704118 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an impressive hole in the ground, though. < 1463704128 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, y'know, it's gotta be web-scale. < 1463704131 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463704157 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The story I heard was, the plans were insufficiently awesome and had to be scrapped. < 1463704174 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to be true, since that's what Daily Mail says: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950181/Google-scraps-boring-plans-London-HQ-Internet-giant-s-boss-Larry-Page-orders-architects-design-building-worthy-standing-100-years.html < 1463704179 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah for fuck's sake i think i need mine and my parents' birth certificates to get an irish passport < 1463704186 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like Page. < 1463704233 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The office that actually does exist is right next to the hole in the ground, though, so at least it'll be a short move if they eventually end up building something. < 1463704850 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463704979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: now i'm thinking of those sinkholes... < 1463706178 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinkholes. deep into the ground, a little bit darker than they ought to be. than they have the right to be. shouldn't they be lightened more by the light source you carry? < 1463706187 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463706212 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a flashlight should do its job, not bring out too many shadows, right by the corner of your vision. < 1463706265 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the descent is easy, even if the rock is clammy. steps hewn so many years ago are uneven, but wide. you won't slip, or if you do, you'll be close enough to the ground to not break too many bones. < 1463706310 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you hope so. the ground isn't there, and you fear it has forsaken you. not even a geological laugh to remind you of its presence. it smirks, in the darkness. < 1463706325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoily. i assume there's a reference. < 1463706504 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be in the act of reading a few SCPs... < 1463706517 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd do it. < 1463706551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the flashlight reminded me of another one, the dimension hopper. < 1463706628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just say you shouldn't assume light is harmless. < 1463706752 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: We are the Knights Who Say Ni! < 1463706870 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCP-507 is a very well done article. < 1463706896 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was inspired by SCP-087, my all-time favourite. that one is gutwrenchterrifying. < 1463707046 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463707741 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463708233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, disliking bell peppers makes you quirky now? <-- definitely! < 1463708353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463708418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you know what else is quirky? editing your own wisdom entry hth < 1463708470 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cflcddsomqwmtppw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463708476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evil < 1463708513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463708534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? overlord < 1463708539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now where did i put it. < 1463708540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil overlords do evil acts like taking over the world, kicking puppies, and changing their own wisdom entries. < 1463708545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it was. < 1463708549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^ < 1463708674 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I think my language nomadness is at a standstil < 1463708689 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to look at other languages but all I see is ways that they're bad because they're not Rust. < 1463708699 0 :Moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463708734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how am i going to make a "rusted" pun when you type this fast tdnh < 1463708763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeolang < 1463708765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeolang is probably Rust ATM. < 1463708812 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this the first time i've heard of sgeolang < 1463708845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sgeolang used to change frequently, but eventually it rusted in place. < 1463708850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'sgeolang': Sgeolang used to change frequently, but eventually it rusted in place. < 1463708909 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to look at Perl 6, but I keep getting hung up on its mutability model not being Rust's, and that roles suck compared to Rust traits < 1463708910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: `wisdom uses a bad PRNG? < 1463708918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463708946 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i kind of assumed sgeo stopped jumping languages after i stopped paying attention to this channel < 1463708948 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of other stuff I can almost forgive based on Perl 6 being dynamically typed < 1463709171 0 :Moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does hackego allow sshing? < 1463709294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i think your language behavior may be the opposite of nomadness hth < 1463709305 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhelloon_. you should try! < 1463709318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: `wisdom was created just the other day anyway < 1463709325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What about all the ways Rust is bad because it's not Haskell? < 1463709337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it means is that you've grown old and set in your ways hth < 1463709378 0 :Moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sh < 1463709382 0 :Moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ssh < 1463709409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463709409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ssh: not found < 1463709439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/wisdom | tac < 1463709448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463709464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1463709464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/wisdom | grep date < 1463709466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: Tue May 03 23:17:41 2016 +0000 \ date: Mon Nov 16 02:53:18 2015 +0000 \ date: Mon Nov 16 02:52:06 2015 +0000 \ date: Mon Nov 16 02:50:09 2015 +0000 \ date: Mon Nov 16 02:40:16 2015 +0000 \ date: Thu Jul 02 15:13:01 2015 +0000 \ date: Thu Jul 02 15:06:48 2015 +0000 \ date: Sun Jun 21 02:4 < 1463709473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/wisdom | grep date | tail -n1 < 1463709475 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: Mon Jun 01 23:54:10 2015 +0000 < 1463709483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, it's less than a year old < 1463709504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1463709527 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Rust is good, exactly because it isn't Haskell. < 1463709608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quickly jumps into the bomb shelter < 1463709617 0 :Moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hackego < 1463709619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1463709661 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rust < 1463709663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell. < 1463709667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust is da bomb < 1463710065 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust fixes a lot of problems Haskell has IMO < 1463710251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like rank-n types? < 1463710278 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like annoying to use records < 1463710321 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/47ucw9/comparing_haskell_and_rust_which_to_choose_when/d0fphn2 < 1463710326 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463710403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust Uses Simple Types < 1463710501 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust has type families and not fundeps, instead of both for historical reasons like Haskel < 1463710503 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1463710680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have injective type families, though < 1463710926 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463710940 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EDUTAINMENT CHICKEN < 1463711234 0 :Moon_!4c014edc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.78.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463713577 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1463713891 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea what those are < 1463713926 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I have been able to fake rank-n types in some circumstances, although it sucks < 1463714019 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a trait (like a Haskell class) representing forall a. (Reifies a b) => a -> b < 1463714031 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't have a reasonable way to write closures that satisfy that < 1463714062 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a macro, but it doesn't close over stuff: < 1463714062 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/3d7f8449ea5ba136038a9c677e744004#file-haskell_reflection_2-rs-L157 < 1463716947 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463717777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463718110 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463718385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463718653 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463719150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463720947 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have writen some designs for a kind of computer machine and I wrote about the video processor and blitter and so on. The blitter is not nearly as advanced as Amiga, though. < 1463721603 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do memcpy(dest,src,n) as memblt(dest,1,src,1,n,0,MEMBLT_OPAQUE) and memset(s,c,n) as memblt(s,1,&c,0,n,0,MEMBLT_OPAQUE) for example. < 1463721641 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1463721651 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some things about computer hardware design? < 1463721755 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some things < 1463721776 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general problem with blitters is that you need 3 times the memory bandwidth < 1463721808 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once for reading the texture, once for writing to the framebuffer, and once for displaying to the screen < 1463721837 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike Amiga the blitter in my design uses up CPU cycles and cannot run simultaneously with the CPU. Also screen displaying is a separate component. < 1463721868 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The video processor is clock interleaved with the CPU. < 1463721904 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't the amiga share the same ram for gfx and cpu& < 1463721905 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463721918 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least the amiga 500) < 1463721939 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know a lot about Amiga, but I think it does share some of the RAM. < 1463721960 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it has 2 types of ram... chip ram and fast ram < 1463721973 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast ram is fast because it's not shared with the video and sound hw :3 < 1463721991 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and only the Chip-RAM is shared. < 1463722014 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have hw scrolling? < 1463722056 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own design is different; video and CPU are clock-interleaved so both have exclusive access to memory. CPU can run at double speed when video is disabled (note that video is normally enabled even during vblank, since the video processor executes instructions during vblank and hblank) < 1463722089 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what generation of dram is your system designed around? < 1463722092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yes, the video processor runs a program which can write to the video registers in order to implement scrolling and so on < 1463722104 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :early c64 like dram or modern? < 1463722119 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 8 bits? 16 bits? 32 bits? < 1463722130 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bits? < 1463722154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't decided anything about DRAM yet, although it is 8-bits data, 32-bits address (audio memory is 16-bits data though) < 1463722182 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it make sense to have vram if you have ram for audio? < 1463722195 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or share the audio ram between gfx and sound? < 1463722271 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-bit ram shared between cpu and gpu might not be fast enough to run a blitter < 1463722285 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463722285 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're doing it in 4 colors or 2 colors < 1463722349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The designs can change in future of course, although currently what I have for audio is that it uses separate memory and can run in parallel with CPU/video, so CPU cannot access it (you would have to use some kind of DMA transfer modes to do it I suppose) < 1463722382 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some systems have no cpu access of vram either < 1463722384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463722397 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like.. genesis I think (though it has dma for that) < 1463722534 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue I see is that dram runs at something like 3mhz < 1463722541 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which leaves 1.5mhz for the gpu < 1463722582 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for NTSC that's about 96 memory accesses per scanline < 1463722786 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the active region is about 75% of the width that's like (80% on paper + 5% overdraw or something like that), 72 cycles for the actually drawn pixels < 1463722840 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you have to draw about 4 pixels worth of graphics per byte < 1463723552 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463724184 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get 16 colors you'd need either 16bit ram, separate cpu vs gpu ram, or more modern ram that's faster if subsequent accesses fall in the same page < 1463724194 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or multiple ram banks on the same address pins < 1463724901 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to draw sprites you probably have to eat into your cpu cycles or leftover gpu cycles but that's not too bad if you don't have too many large objects :3 < 1463725114 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Perl6 is bad at math < 1463725115 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20<Sgeo>30 m: say (1+10i) ~~ (-∞..∞) < 1463725115 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18<camelia18> rakudo-moar e39ce3: OUTPUT«True␤» < 1463725116 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1463725130 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah I hate HexChat sometimes < 1463725139 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : m: say (1+10i) ~~ (-∞..∞) < 1463725146 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :camelia> rakudo-moar e39ce3: OUTPUT«True␤» < 1463725520 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for real? *scnr* < 1463725675 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : basically I've looked at this... it's hard to really have sprites on a 8bit system with shared gpu + cpu ram < 1463725686 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho c64 does it (barely) < 1463725844 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess the msx2 vdp does it but it has really few sprites and not very high bit depth < 1463725976 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C64 does it, but at the expense of the CPU not being able to read RAM as often while the screen is drawn. < 1463726032 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VIC ends up taking exclusive control of the bus at various points, which sucks. < 1463726112 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1463726137 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole system is just kinda strapped for bandwidth < 1463726154 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has to have an extra SRAM for the colors < 1463726327 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the reasons the amiga can do more simply because the ram bus is 16bits instead of 8bits < 1463726361 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok and also having proper cmos chips instead of slow nmos and enough chip space for control registers for everything :3 ) < 1463726513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written the list of cycle accesses and that stuff < 1463726607 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is two clock cycles per pixel (which is what Digi-RGB (also another specification I made up) uses). < 1463726627 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is what I have written so far: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/new.computer There is more but on paper and I have not written it into the computer yet. < 1463726697 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out, I have exactly sixteen memory accesses needed per tile, which is what I needed. < 1463726757 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that CPU and video are clock interleaved, so both have exclusive access to RAM. < 1463726934 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprites are 8x8 or 8x16 and the attribute byte of a sprite consists of a 4-bit plane mask, a collision bit, a height bit, a occult bit, and a impostor bit. < 1463727171 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 gpu clocks per pixel? < 1463727175 0 :unifowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vyrnjhzgkmlblbxs PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1463727181 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means 4 all in all? < 1463727248 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1463727271 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means you'd have to access ram @ 25mhz no? < 1463727312 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463727315 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know yet all of the speed, and the plans may change in future as I have said. < 1463727350 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 320x240x60, that's about 400x262x60 in terms of clock cycles if you cound hblank+vblank, that's 6.3mhz < 1463727354 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixel clock < 1463727399 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it would have to be SRAM or something < 1463727435 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking SRAM actually < 1463727473 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although changes are possible as it gets made up more, there can be whatever changes we consider necessary to correct it. < 1463727489 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :640x480 quadruples this problem < 1463727507 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it has a reduction in features < 1463727527 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the frame rate could be reduced perhaps < 1463727539 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a lcd? < 1463727545 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could interlace it < 1463727666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes interlacing is another possibility that I have thought of, but am unsure about it. However it does seem interlacing would clearly work fine with the video registers I have defined, as the display program could be defined for an interlaced display. However, I only intended 320x240 to be used for analog output while the other modes are only for LCD < 1463727798 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However you have mentioned some problems so I could consider how to fix it < 1463727905 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like they used all sorts of tricks on later systems so that they could do more colors and resolution < 1463727938 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iplkjibrewxgqhby QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463727950 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly more memory bits and fast page dram (=faster if accesses fall on the same page) and multiple ram areas < 1463728032 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda sad that dram just got more and more complex as it sped up < 1463728041 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of staying simple and just speeding up < 1463728067 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I avoided it, because it is too complex < 1463728115 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sram sizes are still tiny and prices kinda hair raising last time I checked :D < 1463728140 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho psram might not be too bad < 1463728190 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "psram" mean? < 1463728211 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudo static ram < 1463728227 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically dram designed to have some characteristics of static ram < 1463728246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that might work (if I can understand it better) < 1463728276 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varies from chip to chip I think but it goes from auto-refresh, to chips that have special layout with smaller rows so that they can be read with full accesses every time < 1463728316 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I remember reading about it being used in the first Iphones (presumably to get to market faster instead of dealing with the insane timings of DDR33456) < 1463728462 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik the genesis has psram as well < 1463728567 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1463730324 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463730707 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463730793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463730865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? galss < 1463730867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :galss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463730870 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? glass < 1463730872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can eat glass and it doesn't hurt me. < 1463730897 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn glass/I can eat glass and it doesn't hurt me. -- http://www.savagechickens.com/2016/05/new-diet.html < 1463730900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «glass» < 1463731129 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could implement graphical displays as either 4-plane PseudoColor XYPixmap or 15-plane TrueColor ZPixmap. < 1463731489 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully you could see how you can do both of these things, as well as imitating PC text mode (including cursor) and VT100, by the use of the system I have designed (I have updated the document a bit). < 1463731570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463731651 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463731725 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1463731878 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463732973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463734527 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/xRhwA0M.jpg SPIRITS ARE ALLLWAAYS WITH YOOOUUU < 1463739586 0 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463739587 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463740566 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:7c27:2cf8:a162:cac JOIN :#esoteric < 1463742101 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463742111 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a warning on the menu saying "fish may contain bones", which sounds reasonable, but there's also another warning saying "olives may contain", and that's a bit more dubious. < 1463742216 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463742275 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ominous < 1463742319 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solidity matrices | May contain | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1463743564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463743832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463744126 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463744593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhoily < 1463744912 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabetint-ello! < 1463747054 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COLLAGEN CHICKEN < 1463747114 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1463751691 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463751757 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463751971 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iyacttmeizidqpuw JOIN :#esoteric < 1463752127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463753283 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463753490 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an idea < 1463753518 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's found the "committee for the code that's not 100% awful" < 1463753546 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we can give away stickers that people can add to their readme on github < 1463753561 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "approved by CCN100A" < 1463753654 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of stars on github is clearly not enough to separate crap from good code < 1463753786 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, people < 1463753936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463754595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463755162 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdxtotajjbmtovnc JOIN :#esoteric < 1463755269 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463755986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463756141 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1463756273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey look, Scott Aaronson replied to a question with a Kipling quote included => https://www.quora.com/Whats-your-advice-to-someone-beginning-his-her-PhD-in-Theoretical-Computer-Science/answer/Scott-Aaronson < 1463756282 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? if < 1463756400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm only halfway (? the list seems to keep growing) through those answers. < 1463756422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1463756435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may have been the one i actually skipped most of. < 1463756468 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's one of the first ones < 1463756477 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with hackego? < 1463756481 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's left? < 1463756483 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1463756495 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think `? if isn't the same verse, but still < 1463756503 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from the same poem < 1463756548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: whoops < 1463756597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the last of Gregor's bots remaining. although maybe it'll rejoin, even if the others didn't. < 1463756713 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, he runs bots on multiple hosts? < 1463756720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the same time that is < 1463756723 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done that yet < 1463756757 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've relocated my bot to another host manually for months once when I knew the normal host wasn't available for a while, but I never tried to run them on multiple machines at once. < 1463756943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i'm not talking about multiple copies of the same bot. except for glogbackup, which was supposed to only be here when glogbot isn't. < 1463757068 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would be hard to keep two copies of HackEgo in sync, because they store so much persistent mutable data < 1463757109 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463757165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afaik Gregor never synced glogbot with glogbackup, even when it was working. < 1463757780 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/davidlind/taas < 1463757982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463758636 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463758712 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463758724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1463758736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D < 1463760218 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? if < 1463760239 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss: < 1463760273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, different verse of the same poem < 1463760938 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iyacttmeizidqpuw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463761606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a port of allegro 4 to javascript < 1463761616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegedly. < 1463762009 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what's "allegro 4"? < 1463762015 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? allegro < 1463762016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? allegro 4 < 1463762024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegro? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463762024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegro 4? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463762033 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a game library for C < 1463762037 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1463762047 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why would you want a javascript port of that? < 1463762054 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hell\oren\ < 1463762101 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a much fadter computer now so i could make my old games into web games < 1463762131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but it's not your computer that matters for that, it's the computer of the people playing those games, right? < 1463762175 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer i wrote them on was a ancient dell laptop from 2006 < 1463762177 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my computer for example isn't powerful enough. although I recently decided it's finally time to buy a new computer that's more powerful, that will still take some time because there's some more urgent stuff I have to do before. < 1463762247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think average pc today could do it in js < 1463762291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it unrealistically expensive if I want the desktop computer with a motherboard that can be expanded to up to 32 gibibytes of RAM, even if I only want to buy 8 gibibytes of RAM for it now? < 1463762318 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a rhetorical question, there's not much need to answer, I'll find out the answer when I look at specific motherboard models < 1463762326 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have more criteria I want from it < 1463762359 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it will cost a ton, and I have other things I want to spend money on, but still, it will be worth < 1463762378 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want all the shiny modern hardware stuff < 1463762382 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, not all < 1463762384 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but much of it < 1463762415 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a thinkpad < 1463762479 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have built desktops in the past < 1463762513 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want to buy a compact camera, which sounds like it's cheaper, but actually much of the hardware of a desktop computer lasts for very long, and I can expand it by replacing only some parts (additional RAM, storage, etc) later, the costs are really the same order of magnitude. < 1463762596 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The camera won't sit in a room, so its hardware (especially the lens mechanics) is amortized quickly. < 1463762651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a surge protector yesterday < 1463762862 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd buy something that I could stick at least 32 gigs in eventually. < 1463762872 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd buy 16 in it to start with, even. < 1463762880 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This workstation's got 64.) < 1463763174 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdxtotajjbmtovnc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463763345 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ktvmnovhoqmkxauq JOIN :#esoteric < 1463764786 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://vimeo.com/93042377 < 1463765740 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463765769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1463765793 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463766845 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463766874 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463767132 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bpuxwmnwdsiwjbju JOIN :#esoteric < 1463768090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1037 < 1463768091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1037: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1463768446 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463770450 0 :sebbu3!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1463772009 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463772529 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463772630 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463775179 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463775330 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463775626 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463775663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Like annoying to use records < 1463775671 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought someone had Solved The Records Problem < 1463775767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1463775842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas did, with the grandmophone < 1463776000 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463776010 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463777493 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote a display program for use with what my new computer design says so far, that can imitate a PC text screen without the cursor (but does implement blinking text). You can look in order to see example of its working. < 1463777507 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote about audio working now < 1463778991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463779109 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared with Amiga, my system cannot execute instructions on the video processor during rendering (so writes to video registers can occur only between scanlines or during vblank), although I have a more complex instruction set (with sixteen instructions instead of three), although the instruction set is fully orthogonal (there are two address mode bits, two condition bits, and four instruction kind bits) < 1463779285 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raster bars (horizontal and vertical) effects can still be implemented though. < 1463779822 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1463780289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monadic_predicate_calculus < 1463780291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. misleading tdnh < 1463780351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this that older low-level computer design of yours that has the strange complicated collection of addressing modes and treats the instruction pointer a general register? < 1463780394 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monadic first order logic is fun. < 1463780397 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is a different one, and I haven't written about the CPU instrucion set < 1463780398 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by complicated collection of addressing modes, I mean an instruction can have two or three arguments, each of which has a variable addressing mode with a variable number of extra bytes to encode the instruction < 1463780408 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :making it hard to decode instructions < 1463780420 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok < 1463780433 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that one, I thin ,had more than 16 "instructions" < 1463780452 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I mean is this one: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/new.computer it isn't that complicated to decode instructions. I have written about the video processor and audio and operating system. < 1463780465 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that the video processor's instruction set is not the same as the main processor's instruction set < 1463780529 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this so far? < 1463780620 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, while we're at designs for instruction sets, just out of curiosity, have you ever looked at John Savard's designs at eg. http://www.quadibloc.com/arch/perint.htm or http://www.quadibloc.com/prog/lg00.htm ? < 1463780665 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will look now < 1463780953 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463781438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: this thing you describe and call a “video processor” sounds like a auxiliary general cpu to me, which runs synchronized with the RAM acess, and that's why it runs only during hsync and vsync time. It doesn't seem like specifically a *video* processor. It doesn't have parallelism or much video-specific things. < 1463781455 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, the sentence “Video registers are read-only.” is probably a typo < 1463781624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463781755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; it should be write-only. I fixed it now < 1463781843 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meant for programming the video registers and can execute instructions or read during rendering, what the instructions programmed it to do. < 1463781940 0 :gremlins!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463782266 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463782783 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:7c27:2cf8:a162:cac QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463782966 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have other comments about this? < 1463783025 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463783196 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463783543 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1463783662 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463783981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a Turing machine where the symbol on the tape is erased whenever you move left, is that equivalent to a push-down automaton? < 1463784034 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It look it will be like the stack if you do that? < 1463784062 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you erase the symbol you're going to or the symbol you're coming from... < 1463784104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but assuming the lattter it should directly translate to a PDA. < 1463784188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter. < 1463784207 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. did you intend to put input on the tape? < 1463784224 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :looking < 1463784239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess a PDA usually has a separate input tape. < 1463784429 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get something quite odd when the input and the stack share a tape... because you can compare the stack size to the current input position. so recognizing { a^nb^nc^n | n in N } seems possible. < 1463784897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463784985 0 :looking!?@? NICK :ybden < 1463785118 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463786322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon, you're a liar. < 1463786338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1463786341 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said they'll dispatch something on the 17th, but it's still "preparing to dispatch". < 1463786353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they say the 17th of which month? < 1463786362 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they did. < 1463786369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :year? < 1463786381 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That they don't say. < 1463786388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, there you go. < 1463786395 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do say "Expected by 22 May", but that also lacks the year. < 1463787332 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :time zone? < 1463787482 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps they're just still using the Julian calendar. < 1463787498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be UTC-39999:00:00 timezone < 1463787553 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think we could make an authentic old-timey or medieval or “eighties” or “19th century” etc theme park just by declaring it's in some time zone with a large negative offset < 1463787626 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's how you do it? < 1463787670 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ktvmnovhoqmkxauq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463787708 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Julian calendar is 13 days behind the Gregorian now... no change since the October revolution) < 1463788083 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't think a UTC-P30Y time zone is all that reasonable or authentic. < 1463788241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it won't change until 2100. < 1463788314 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woavibkcbljvznjk JOIN :#esoteric < 1463788670 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the PC text imitation display program I wrote, and can you find any mistakes in it? < 1463788838 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I KNOW < 1463788893 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what I failed at was history, not the arithmetic of the two calendars. < 1463788956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1463789035 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of arithmetic, I still haven't convinced Isabelle that the laver tables as computed are actually shelves... < 1463789091 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I've come closer. I have proved the pasting modulo 2^(n-1) property. < 1463789448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1463789523 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isabelle.in.tum.de/ ? < 1463789531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1463789533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the property... < 1463789538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the property. < 1463789584 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pasting" is misleading... it's that dropping the top bit gives a homomorphism to a smaller shelf < 1463789607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think of it as pasting 4 copies of the smaller table and then tweaking the top bits. < 1463789622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: right. also setting the top bit (or clearing, dependent on indexing) < 1463789662 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course all this is part of a huge induction step... I'm assuming that the smaller table is a shelf. < 1463789679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok, remind me again, how do index things. it's impossible to talk about this without agreeing on that. < 1463789703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*how do you < 1463789754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly the convention in john baez's blog post does not fit well with the bit twiddling :( < 1463789757 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the formalization I'm using 0..2^n - 1 as carrier and a |> 2^n - 1 = (a-1) mod 2^n ... so 2^n - 1 is the generator < 1463789780 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the "dual" version according the the laver.hs file I made < 1463789795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1463789808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 0 is the left identity / right absorber. < 1463789821 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1463789842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in that case, \x -> 2^(n-1) |> x is that homomorphism you mention. < 1463789938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is... obviously an homomorphism if you have a shelf. < 1463789971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok, here's my idea: don't do induction in such a big step. instead, prove from the fact that {0, ..., x} is a shelf that (a) x has period a power of 2 (b) {0, ..., x+1} is a shelf. < 1463790000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) holds generally for any element of a shelf that _has_ a period. < 1463790098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to show (a), you can show that {x, x |> x, x |> x |> x, ..., } is isomorphic to a laver table. < 1463790159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you also need that laver tables have size a power of 2 if they are shelves.) < 1463790179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how much of this you've already proved. < 1463790209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, regular languages are exactly those that are recognized by a finite monoid. < 1463790256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i can give you a proof for the power of 2 thing too) < 1463790274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact that's the only part that needs something resembling "bit twiddling") < 1463790283 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not proved that non-powers of 2 don't work... as I currently see it, in order to prove that 2^n * o doesn't work, where o > 1 is an odd number, I first need the laver table of size 2^n. < 1463790372 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been following the topic, so I went to see the 'pedia summary, and it was exceedingly useful: "In mathematics, Laver tables -- are tables of numbers that have certain properties." < 1463790412 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since 2^n |> x is the first row where things go wrong. < 1463790424 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of system was cheaper to build in the late 80's... a system with independent 8bit DRAM for CPU and GPU, or a system with 16bit DRAM shared between CPU and GPU? < 1463790487 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the main property is self-distributivity: a |> (b |> c) = (a |> b) |> (a |> c); an operation with that property is called a shelf. < 1463790545 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the 16bit system has technically fewer pins < 1463790551 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but needs a beefier processor < 1463790566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm let me recall the important things. first, if y is an element of a laver table, then \x -> (y+1) |> x maps the period of 2^n-1 (i.e. the whole shelf) onto the period of y. < 1463790704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreover, z |> x maps to ((y+1) |> z) |> y, which means that this map _commutes_ with going to the next step in the periods. < 1463790718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, < 1463790727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* z |> (2^n-1) maps to < 1463790740 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "recognized by a finite monoid"? What do you mean by that? < 1463790765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognizable_set < 1463790801 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat. < 1463790846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: from this, you can deduce that ((y+1) |>) ^{-1} (x) has the _same_ size for all x in the image. which means that the period size of y must _divide_ 2^n. < 1463790892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might be mixing haskell and math too much here < 1463791002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: now let, ad absurdum, {0,...,x} be a minimal laver table such that x is _not_ a power of 2. it follows that all elements _other_ than x have period a power of 2. < 1463791069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let 2^k be the largest such period. then 2^k divides x, and so x >= 3*2^k since it is not itself a power of 2. < 1463791125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now consider y = 2^(k+1) < x. i claim that this element must have period 2^(k+1), a contradiction. < 1463791154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1463791162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y = 2^(k+1)-1 < 1463791194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, bit of off-by-ones up in there. it's x+1 that's not a power of 2. < 1463791203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463791259 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Since 2^n |> x is the first row where things go wrong. <--- I see that we agree on that :P < 1463791269 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though not on the variable names) < 1463791295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prove that y has period 2^(k+1), it's enough to prove that z |> y = z-1 for 0 < z <= y. < 1463791397 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, perhaps I should have written "I have not formalized" instead of "I have not proved" earlier... < 1463791407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but z |> y = (z-1) |> (z-1) |> ... |> (z-1) (y times), and by assumption z-1 has period a power of 2. < 1463791416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so do you mean you've got all this? < 1463791469 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I have a pretty clear picture in my head how I could prove it... you're doing some things differently. < 1463791477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait damn < 1463791505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(y times)/(2^n-y times)/ < 1463791520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :messing up the indexing again. < 1463791540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1463791551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x+1-y times) < 1463791577 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463791599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the period of z divides x+1 < 1463791621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*z-1 < 1463791671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thing is, i thought of all this using the indexing wikipedia uses. < 1463791672 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463791718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which actually makes more sense for expanding z |> y into a chain < 1463791732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then it has length y) < 1463791829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kinds of monoids recognize e.g. context-free languages? < 1463791830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x+1-y = x+1-2^(k+1)+1 which is 1 more than a multiple of 2^k. < 1463791874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so since all periods of the z involved have lengths dividing 2^k, z |> y = z-1. < 1463791952 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which proves that y has all of {0, ..., y} as its period set, of size 2^(k+1), which contradicts the assumption that 2^k is the maximal period of elements other than x. Q.E.D. and all laver tables must have period of 2 sizes. < 1463791984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: was that clear? >:P < 1463791990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1463791995 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice final typo < 1463792207 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :My feeling is that it really isn't that different from what I proposed... except that I intend to directly pick y as the largest power of 2 that divides x+1. < 1463792216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1463792219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*power < 1463792235 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, actually the next power of two) < 1463792245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm i guess that might work too < 1463792484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbbbb < 1463792520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ccc? < 1463792578 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real trouble with Isabelle is that concepts like "period" have to be broken down into smaller parts... < 1463792611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1463792699 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the minor detail that the periods are perfect... instead of having an initial part followed by a periodic one. < 1463792752 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(connected to the fact that each period starts at 0, because that's the only way to get a larger predecessor) < 1463792801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though perhaps you have a better angle on that; there's a bit there early on that I didn't follow completely. < 1463792938 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah the fact you must go through 0 seems essential. < 1463792945 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also need sleep and I should get lambdabot into shape for ghc 8 on the weekend rather than working on shelves. < 1463792972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried vaguely thinking about what would happen if a period was not perfect. < 1463793001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems then there' no reason why they would be closed as shelves. < 1463793009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as subshelves. < 1463793015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1463793432 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much math today < 1463793459 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1463793480 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :copprello < 1463793695 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinnichiwa < 1463793955 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mi salutas viojn. < 1463794015 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: doom < 1463794555 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463794884 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463795338 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who needs some friday night alcohols? < 1463795362 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go fast < 1463795578 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think the main instruction set for my new computer design should include Muxcomp too. < 1463795599 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want the alchols < 1463795610 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's muxcomp < 1463795702 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Muxcomp < 1463795703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why not? < 1463795757 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It would probably be slow if all operations are muxcomp, unless perhaps it is used in microcodes) < 1463795940 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The document I wrote now includes a comment about that, as well as many other changes and additions < 1463795941 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : how do you enter the 6 inputs to the operation? < 1463795944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no thanks, i had a drink on tuesday < 1463796006 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't put in all of the details yet, that is just an idea so far. < 1463796020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which drink < 1463796061 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : ok how about < 1463796064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cognac hth < 1463796115 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lea bit3, bit4*2, r0 < 1463796115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as you may recall, it was constitution day) < 1463796115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is among the cognacenti < 1463796144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed. i have a family anecdote to the effect i was an early fan < 1463796154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3 years old iirc) < 1463796155 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: What is that? Can you explain? < 1463796167 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cognacenti" could be a p. good pun < 1463796172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta save that one up < 1463796206 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lea bit3, bit4*2, r0 < 1463796206 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lea bit2, r0*2, r0 < 1463796206 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lea bit1, r0*2, r0 < 1463796206 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lea bit0, r0*2, r0 < 1463796206 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shr lut, r0, r0 < 1463796207 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and r0, $1, r0 < 1463796284 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words: combine all your conditionals into a bit addresss < 1463796299 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use bitshift to put the selected bit into bit 0 of result < 1463796310 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use AND to clear remaining top bits < 1463796341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"YouTube's designers found the previous system ineffective because the options to rate a video between two and four stars were rarely selected." < 1463796358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: a rating system where you have to earn the right to use the top and bottom ranks < 1463796419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(someone's probably tried it) < 1463796428 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463796431 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the system takes in your comments and computes how similar it is to troll comments < 1463796439 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is moon < 1463796451 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1463796452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: ...that's not very related... < 1463796458 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's not too similar and you have enough comments and ratings it lets you use double-thumbs-up and double-thumbs-down? < 1463796461 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonheart08 < 1463796464 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1463796480 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how else do you compute people's ability to rate by machine? < 1463796535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: sorry, i didn't mean a right, a meant a quota. the idea is that you _have_ to give non-extreme rankings most of the time. < 1463796556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the rankings are forced to spread out more. < 1463796588 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is there a way to change my nick on only *one* channel? < 1463796597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: i don't think so. < 1463796601 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: IRC does not do that. < 1463796601 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1463796608 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well < 1463796613 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : oh < 1463796628 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NICK command is for your connection to the server. You could make a second connection possibly though? < 1463796632 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a super bar that charges up when you give thumbs up or down < 1463796672 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it's charged all the way up you get to hitconfirm combo a thumbs up into a super thumbs up < 1463796680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the unary XOR operation in INTERCAL can be used for Gray codes? < 1463796685 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, true < 1463796692 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1463796696 0 :moonheart08!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PART #esoteric : < 1463796699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: yeah maybe. < 1463796712 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463796731 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463796737 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1463796864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hm the unary xor is basically a cellular automaton on the bits as a ring, isn't it. < 1463796875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the unaries are too. < 1463796880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the other unaries < 1463796920 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes I think so. < 1463797456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463797658 0 :moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463797722 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463798445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad, b_jonas: What is your opinion on the various other ideas I have written there? < 1463798515 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463798598 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1463798664 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are the sprites displayed? < 1463798723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the use of the sprite buffer that is filled up during the previous scanline rendering < 1463798752 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it know which sprites are active on the current scanline? < 1463798819 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463798836 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because those are the ones in the sprite buffer. It is placed into the sprite buffer if the Y position is correct. < 1463799015 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing to the sprite registers will affect the next scanline and not the current one, so your display program must take that into account. < 1463799061 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it have to read sprite x y etc from memory if it has sprite registers? < 1463799106 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sprite registers only tell it where to find it in the memory and what the current scroll position is. < 1463799231 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has memory reads of all the sprite data on every single scanline? < 1463799257 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has to < 1463799360 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to fetch the sprite x y id etc if you have it in a register < 1463799505 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you would need a register for each sprite I would think < 1463799515 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1463799530 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on chip generation but eventually they had enough registers for that < 1463799533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it would take up many of the instruction cycles available on each scan line < 1463799538 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially on snes etc < 1463799793 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The design I have seems that there is exactly enough clock cycles for each pixel to read everything necessary for playfield and for sprites) < 1463799859 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think of the stuff other than the video? < 1463799906 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is audio frequency in periods? < 1463799946 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why shouldn't it be? That is what many computers did, I think? < 1463799983 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on chip generation < 1463800013 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're doing few channels of square waves then periods is simpler yes < 1463800041 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you start doing like 6 and 8 channels and FM synthesis and samples then frequency is simpler < 1463800238 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To do anything with audio you would need to load a audio program into the audio processor, which would implement whatever you need. < 1463800403 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this require the audio cpu to busy write into the channels all the time? < 1463800485 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all the time, because there is a period and it only has to write once the period has expired. < 1463800552 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all the time < 1463800597 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't do anything longer than one sample or else channels will start glitching :o < 1463800621 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each channel has separate registers < 1463800667 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you could also add data together and put into one channel. < 1463800671 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the cpu has to keep 4 channels filled all the time < 1463800723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The audio processor runs independently from the main processor so it does not take cycles away from the main processor, because it has its own memory too. < 1463800723 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : that would be hard too since you have to mix all the channels in less than 1 sample every time < 1463800831 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have been able to do it in PC, which has only one channel and a slower clock rate. < 1463800853 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And this is together with graphics.) < 1463800872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own design it is independent from graphics so it can clearly do more stuff. < 1463800967 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on PC they have a DMA channel < 1463801028 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you can compute a whole 256 sample block, send it to the card and do all sorts of other stuff while the sound card slowly goes through it < 1463801041 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I mean on the original PC that had only PIT for sound < 1463801048 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you even get an interrupt to refill it when half the block is done < 1463801055 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : yes and it sucked < 1463801265 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it isn't very good that is why I did mine more better < 1463801377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you find any mistake in the display program I wrote for imitating a PC text screen? < 1463801390 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463801918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what think you think about the other stuff I wrote about keyboard, game control, and operating system? < 1463801948 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't read too much about those < 1463802586 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can read it < 1463803650 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1463803663 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd concentrate on the parts you can implement on an fpga first < 1463804173 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one way, although many of the things I had written about are separate from what would be done by FPGA < 1463804306 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1463805274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463805373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463805711 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463805807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463806405 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1463807056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463807631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463808293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Lewis Chessmen make me sad < 1463808764 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that? < 1463809120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wikipedia should make it clear < 1463809141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RGB chess: A game of chess with > 16kk sides < 1463809729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463809870 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woavibkcbljvznjk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463809908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463809910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 0-chess, white automatically wins < 1463809950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In n-chess, you play normal chess, but upon capture, a game of [n-1]-chess is played to calculate success. White is the attacking piece, black is the defending piece. < 1463809963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOM. < 1463810168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has invented many Chess variants. < 1463810317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Mine requires you to play chess to play chess. I think I win. < 1463810331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also, there are infinitely many of them < 1463810551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: My god... omega-chess < 1463810626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omega is an ordinal, but Chess has bishops, so cardinals seem more appropriate. < 1463810857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Fair point < 1463812943 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463814485 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what value of n should be the "default" initial match? < 1463814688 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how about MWI-chess: when a capture is made, a new game with identical pre-move state is spun off in which the capture never happened and the capturing player loses a turn. all spun-off games must be played simultaneously, though each forked game adds to the game clock half the length of time that was added for its parent < 1463814750 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:60da:8437:a192:450e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463814765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the winner is the player that won the majority of games by the time all games are completed or one player's time expires. (said player obviously loses all unfinished games if time expires) < 1463814783 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :analog paper chess... the pieces are lines on a sheet of paper... movement is prolongating the lines... capture is crossing the other player's line < 1463814811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463814815 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can the lines be rotated? < 1463814867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like...this doesnt really sound like chess < 1463814899 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless pieces still move like pieces and the "lines" are their loci of past movements < 1463815513 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463817504 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463818452 0 :MDream!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463818538 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bpuxwmnwdsiwjbju QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463819143 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463819403 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463820043 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b47c:89c1:43bf:187a JOIN :#esoteric < 1463820599 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463825366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463825532 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463825613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463825835 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463825908 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463826801 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463829849 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b47c:89c1:43bf:187a QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463830021 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463830263 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463830632 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463833606 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463833691 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :9600, 8N1. < 1463833709 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a serial port configuration? < 1463833720 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else could it possibly be? < 1463833730 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm just using the channel as a convenient note pad.) < 1463833771 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you're going to prune rare words from models, why leave placeholders, instead of removing the nodes entirely? < 1463833796 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, better, work out the *type* of word and substitute it for a random word that sort-of-fits. < 1463833867 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like for example: The megalomaniac with his butler tried to take over the world, becomes: The dynamic with his apple tried to make over the rabbit. < 1463833877 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, I'm just using a set of one type as the list of types I handle. < 1463833885 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463833900 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets out his pocket dictionary and adds an "adj." meaning to "fnord" < 1463833901 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1463833917 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :More realistically, that'd be a lot of effort. < 1463834011 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs realism? :) < 1463834012 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohi ais < 1463834045 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it probably would be quite a bit of work to identify the word being removed... < 1463834094 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it's just a matter of picking a word from a list. < 1463834108 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is this logic implemented in the Befunge layer? < 1463834111 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1463834120 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The synthesis part, that is. Not the model building. < 1463834142 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, where do rare words get pruned? < 1463834143 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463834226 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :*That's* during model building, of course. But even something as simple as "have models contain a set of tokens that can be replaced by a word randomly selected from a model-specific list" -- which would happen at synthesis time -- isn't all that trivial to implement in Befunge. Especially if you'd need to edit existing code to do it. < 1463834238 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The babbling is lines 125-161 of https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1463834239 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. just like yo fnord agua is another way to do that < 1463834340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why not choose the random words during model building? < 1463834382 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all random anyway, so I doubt anyone would notice. < 1463834389 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I guess. But then it's always the same word. < 1463834399 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :People do notice patterns in some of the smaller-corpus models. < 1463834401 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1463834402 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1463834409 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can that sword alone stop it? < 1463834409 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1463834409 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1463834409 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! < 1463834434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope." keeps being repeated a lot. < 1463834476 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but on smaller corpus models you might not want to remove rare words. < 1463834492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's true. I haven't done it for those. < 1463834520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So on smaller corpus models you aren't removing words anyway, and on larger corpus models the space is big enough that it wouldn't be as noticable. < 1463834545 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll keep that in mind if I ever can bother to retrain the irc style. < 1463834579 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how long the IRC style took in CPU time, given the history of #esoteric < 1463834612 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote elf corpses < 1463834614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :111) ais523: elf corpses are not considered expensive health food. but the most expensive. < 1463834700 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a larger fraction of it is ##scheme. < 1463834755 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...elf corpses? < 1463834759 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1463834759 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1463834767 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...does this have anything to do with NH4? < 1463834769 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Your quote-file quotes are so good, why can't you be brilliant like that all the time? < 1463834770 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nalfeshnee: not only by birth but also by law", ector said facing arthur. the leprechaun's two great loves are tobacco and whiskey, and at the blasphemy. he was such a way that it becomes porous to inert material. < 1463834805 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I didn't know that about leprechauns. < 1463834805 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: issek: now issek of the weaker forms of demon. it is ready to be a sasquatch inn near the town level of the wizard and his fellow titans were ousted from mount olympus. ( the jungle still. < 1463835315 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote stop programming < 1463835317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1164) boily: i'll probably stop programming the day i will hit the end of the program. < 1463835359 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote serious proportions < 1463835362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1181) kmc: madam president, i have taken on serious proportions. < 1463835436 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1463835436 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1463835453 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What is your stance on the upcoming UK referendum on Brexit? < 1463835455 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the gradual and controlled implementation of the budget, but i do miss one aspect, namely communication with the public and the slovak government. criticism is clearly not a democratic country. this therefore means that we can create a job with a smaller management or perhaps with a view to guaranteeing and expressing the higher interest and security of payments requires products to be tested, we must take account of th < 1463835483 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: But are you for or against it? < 1463835485 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, commissioner, i hope that we can begin programming and implementing aid, that we are only recommending the level of employment in some of the problems we are now ready to establish technical requirements, specifically amendments nos 9 and 10. they all aim to exclude certain sectors from their advantages, consumer protection and especially its rapporteur, mrs marinucci, have done, then i am quite aware t < 1463835500 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typical politician, never says anything straight. < 1463835555 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463835700 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why say things people can understand... < 1463835706 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you can say things people can't understand? < 1463835727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And get money for doing so? < 1463836068 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! It was 9600 8N1. < 1463836104 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Proper settings for getting a serial console out of a SparcStation 5.) < 1463836167 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/gMNa doesn't look too good, though. < 1463836260 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 sparcstations < 1463836274 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have ss4, ss5, sparcserver5, ss10, ss20 < 1463836293 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with reversed gender serial connectors < 1463836335 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I had to get a gender changer to get at the serial console. < 1463836353 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have tons of db25->rj45 converters < 1463836367 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure this'll make lovely out of context reading. < 1463836378 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with them, we can use those with blue cisco cables < 1463836390 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also we have tons of 13w3 sun crts < 1463836403 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 13w3 cables, 13w3->dsub15 adaptors < 1463836406 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 13w3-to-4xBNC monitor cable that I used to use, but no monitors that'd take those in, since I got rid of the CRT that did. < 1463836412 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we either < 1463836419 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4xbnc thing rules! < 1463836439 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also have bnc crts < 1463836441 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you *get* all of those? < 1463836479 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungary, everywhere. We have a huge collection of ibm pc, 286, 186, 386, 486, risc, vax, ppc, sparc, ultrasparc, alpha etc vintage hardware < 1463836489 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts counted < 1463836494 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cca 20-25 cubicmeters < 1463836499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweaking travis configurations is so annoying. < 1463836512 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have this SGI Indy with its associated 13w3 CRT monitor, but it doesn't want to play along with the SS5. < 1463836514 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweak... push... build... look at error... repeat < 1463836539 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lamma, 13w3 connectors can cause damage with inappropriate device < 1463836548 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least 4 13w3 pinout standards < 1463836550 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get rid of all this stuff, that's why I'm trying to get it to boot, so I could properly wipe the drives. (Got nothing else that speaks SCSI.) < 1463836554 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgi, apple, sun, next, ibm < 1463836592 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound like standards < 1463836601 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, that sounds like not-standards < 1463836608 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay gooby, lets modify: "standarses" < 1463836658 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, become ontopic < 1463836678 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am goint to publish proofs of turing-completeness of some ancient languages, shell envs < 1463836691 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily unixish shells < 1463836712 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we organize coding golf tournaments at our employer < 1463836731 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the prizegiving ceremony, a presentation will be performed < 1463836746 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and selected results will be provided. for example: here < 1463837751 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463837964 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud. < 1463837964 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463838009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-baud < 1463838009 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463838017 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-baud 9600 < 1463838017 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1463838145 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj! < 1463838206 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1463838522 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463838937 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujwvydzlhgbqcofl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463839048 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Akaibu < 1463839062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Akaibu: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1463839152 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoooooah < 1463839155 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colooooouuuuurs! < 1463839156 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rules < 1463839168 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins maniacally. < 1463839361 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLOPic! < 1463839377 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime APic < 1463839378 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for APic is Sat May 21 15:02:57 2016 < 1463839389 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1463839427 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo yo yo < 1463839447 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally arrived in one of the good Realtimes. ;))) < 1463839457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, build passed. < 1463839481 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463839511 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah < 1463839579 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. you built APic? < 1463839592 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah < 1463839596 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Myself < 1463839598 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my Room < 1463839599 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1463839600 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally < 1463839602 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: where you at now? how many liters of coffee in your bloodstream? < 1463839607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, travis built the git version of lambdabot for two ghc versions (7.8.4 and 7.10.3). < 1463839614 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Munich Obergiesing Bahnhof, none at all. < 1463839617 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nice! < 1463839619 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates Coffee < 1463839625 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP*! < 1463839626 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad Experiences with that one. < 1463839632 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*g* < 1463839635 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :after way too many failures < 1463839659 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles APic for his penitence < 1463839675 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one was not putting happy on the path when I switched to getting it from hvr's repository... < 1463839683 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penis? < 1463839693 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :No definitions found for "mapole", perhaps you mean: < 1463839693 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcide: Maple Maypole < 1463839693 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :wn: maple maypole < 1463839693 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldoc: maple < 1463839696 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, the Sparc netboot thing is annoying. It sends a RARP query, then tries to fetch the image from whatever server responds over TFTP using the path /[ip in hex].[architecture]. < 1463839700 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1463839702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1463839800 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1463839801 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1463839808 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada rocks < 1463839812 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a Great-Aunt there < 1463839817 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :She passed away a few Years ago. < 1463839923 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. you work on a sparc? < 1463840001 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1463840015 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1463840020 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION on a Biketrip < 1463840025 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will meet my two best Friends. < 1463840026 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :cul8r < 1463840027 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :B-) < 1463840078 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :biking is fun! < 1463840111 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes biking in the middle of the night, when it's all quiet and the weather's just right < 1463840367 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm trying to clean up the disks on a Sparc so that I could get rid of it, and while it does boot from the disks, I have no idea what sort of passwords it might accept (been a while), so I need to boot it from *somewhere* to get at it. < 1463840386 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The network seems like the only feasible choice, since I don't have anything else to stick the disks to. < 1463840480 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not sure what I should have it boot from the network. I have OpenBSD on it, but the OpenBSD installation diskless boot involves setting up the installation root fs to be served over NFS, and that's even more of a hassle. < 1463840561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't mind easier ideas. Something I could do from the OpenPROM boot prompt would be great. < 1463840639 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463840673 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I don't think that thing really has any filesystem drivers.) < 1463840944 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463841471 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, re biking: best biking is the one from Assembly to home. It's usually around 3-4am-ish, Assembly is in August which means it's warm (but not too) and light out, and for some reason there's always a bunch of rabbits on the way. < 1463841505 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This system has relatively little free memory, so it will enter low memory mode. Among other things, this means that this program will proceed in English. You should set up swap space as soon as possible." < 1463841515 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, 32 megs just doesn't go as far as it used to. < 1463841694 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463841720 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can be applied to just about any unit of memory < 1463841726 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :64k doesn't go as far as it used to < 1463841776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like as if the OS expands to take up anything available < 1463841821 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the programs finish the rest < 1463841821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I booted the debian etch installer (at least it's got an initrd attached), but I don't know how to provide boot parameters, so it booted to the menu-based installer, which keeps asking all kinds of irrelevant questions. < 1463841843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your keyboard have ctrl and alt? < 1463841854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and do you have virtual terminals?) < 1463841857 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a serial console. < 1463841862 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah, you're doomed < 1463841875 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives fizzie a packed lunch < 1463841881 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, you'll need it for the labyrinth < 1463841892 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also takes a second or two to move from one screen to another, because it prints a screenful of spaces at 9600 bps. < 1463841911 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I'll reach the menu eventually, but the expert mode would've made this a lot nicer. < 1463841951 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's only a second or two < 1463842019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, after failing to download anything I got the "go back" option, which went to the menu and let me start a shell. < 1463842071 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :...of course there are no disk devices... < 1463842081 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that part of the installer comes later. < 1463842142 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it'll want to download *that* from the network. Bah. < 1463842173 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I do have some good news - I just got word from the labyrinth guards, the minotaur's busy dealing with an author who wrote fanfic of Greek Mythology, so you'll be ok. < 1463842210 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't lose the thread < 1463842226 0 :feliks!cQf3WA84uU@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463842343 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463842495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave it some networks, and it downloaded *something*. Now I'll need to manage to break out back to the menu at some point somehow. < 1463842554 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you type "exit", you'll probably either find yourself in the menu or find yourself in a meta-labyrinth. Have fun! < 1463842666 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no place to type anything anywhere, it's all just selecting choices. < 1463842708 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so you're already in a menu? < 1463842712 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It boots into a menu. < 1463842731 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you said you started a shell... < 1463842741 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I had to go back to the menu to get anything done. < 1463842752 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't have any block devices except the ramdisk. < 1463842758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So which menu do you want to break out to? < 1463842791 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean. I went back to the Debian installer menu, to follow along a few more steps (download installer components from the network). < 1463842801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The S-hell... a text adventure by #esoteric. ) < 1463842813 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm at the "Detecting disks and all other hardware" step, which I'd rather like to pass. < 1463842816 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I started work on an esolang-based text adventure years ago < 1463842825 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But after that a shell would be nice. < 1463842839 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a positive sign, the external HD box is booting up the drives, so I think it indeed is enumerating drives. < 1463842871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I didn't get very far; it has one brainfuck-based puzzle, one SMETANA-based puzzle, and one INTERCAL-based puzzle < 1463842875 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463842880 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none of them do anything when you complete them because I didn't write any more < 1463842885 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and all three are accessible from the start) < 1463842907 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If there are no problems, the user will never see the installer menu, but will simply answer questions for each component in turn." < 1463842913 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice, but I'd like the menu. < 1463842940 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[If you're installing over a serial console], there is also an Execute a Shell item on the main menu that can be used to start a shell." < 1463842948 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice as well, but you just said I won't see the menu. < 1463842955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a trick to it. < 1463842995 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Power users may be more comfortable with a menu-driven interface, where each step is controlled by the user rather than the installer performing each step automatically in sequence. To use the installer in a manual, menu-driven way, add the boot argument priority=medium." < 1463843010 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b47c:89c1:43bf:187a JOIN :#esoteric < 1463843015 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice trick, but I don't know how to specify boot arguments when doing the netboot thing. < 1463843054 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit of a moot point, anyway, in that it seems to have gotten stuck at 2% of the "Detecting disks and other hardware" pass. < 1463843074 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "oading [sic] module 'esp' for 'ESP SCSI'..." < 1463843089 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463843121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :goading? < 1463843124 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the installer should just accept ^C... < 1463843135 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make things simpler < 1463843171 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And why on earth would "priority=medium" have anything to do with how the installer acts?) < 1463843173 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly it ran out of memory and killed something. There was a lot of components it was loading. < 1463843209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did caution me to enable some swap "as soon as possible", but that's a bit hard before loading the SCSI drivers. < 1463843221 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I need an older Debian. < 1463843244 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, etch is what, 2007? That's pretty modern. < 1463843277 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you know the module name now. < 1463843348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. "Puppy Linux is designed to be extremely lightweight. When installed to a USB flash drive, it consumes only 100 MB of space — 256 MB if you want the version with a full OpenOffice office suite instead of more lightweight office applications. Puppy Linux is loaded to your computer’s RAM [...]" < 1463843372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"100 MB" is lightweight these days? < 1463843416 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "old computers" have 1 GB of RAM these days. < 1463843429 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:b47c:89c1:43bf:187a QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463843506 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they were really trying to be minimal, they'd just use text mode... < 1463843519 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463843526 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old laptops may go as low as 512 MB I suppose) < 1463843536 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO 1.44MB should be the standard for incredibly minimal OSes < 1463843609 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From starting the installation to booting our new Linux system, only 30 minutes had passed - very impressive" < 1463843624 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1463843625 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody wants to tell me how to specify kernel boot command line to this thing. < 1463843642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/archives-best-distros-2000 ) < 1463843652 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except this one page which says you use a "bootparamd" server to do it. < 1463843657 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...seriously? < 1463843664 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://znark.com/tech/netbootsparc.html < 1463843709 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know if that's just for Solaris boot params, I *assume* it's up to the boot loader (the thing you load over TFTP) to do that part. < 1463843781 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1463843793 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you were booting from the network, you would append the string onto the end of the boot net command in OBP --" can it really be that easy? < 1463843798 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to try, I guess. < 1463843826 0 :feliks!hCLCsjB2Y8@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1463843920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok boot net debconf/priority=medium DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text < 1463843921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boot device: /iommu/sbus/ledma@5,8400010/le@5,8c00000 File and args: debconf/priority=medium DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text < 1463843926 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, would you look at that. < 1463843957 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463844005 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tettinegc huop[ f7i]l:e sUynsitmepml,e mpelnetaesde SwPaAiRtC .s.y.s em call 188" < 1463844010 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice interleaved output there. < 1463844031 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you decipher that? < 1463844031 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, i hope, ladies and gentlemen, finally the summit concluded with a result that clearly improves on the proposals we made back in 1989. associated with this, i believe that the best way of undertaking such work. < 1463844062 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cannot load frontend module /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/text.so" I think the installer manual lied to me about existing frontends. < 1463844093 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bfoptdavxcqwdjfe QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463844156 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hhdvqhgsbaqabycm JOIN :#esoteric < 1463844184 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463844225 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't think fizzie's sparc is quite that old. < 1463844225 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, the election of the new millennium have been marked by a whole series of provisions which are obviously aberrations in this case we really did make a very clear message to the rest of the year, so that we can accept in principle amendments nos 34 and 43, which are our own and genuinely try to achieve a balanced text, which has just been murdered in pristina. < 1463844523 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the year should be 1994 or later for a sparcstation 5) < 1463844571 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Hard to say, the IDPROM "date of manufacture" field had turned into all-bits-10101010 just like everything else in it. < 1463844593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful < 1463844617 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation#.22Pizzabox.22_systems < 1463844629 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's technically Tue Aug 19 21:50:34 UTC 1924 but that's a bit dubious. < 1463844665 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1463844669 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1463844673 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. The Sarge installer fails to download any files. < 1463844688 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it's screaming at you in hexadecimal) < 1463844757 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok .idprom < 1463844761 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Format/Type: aa aa Ethernet: aa aa aa aa aa aa Date: aa aa aa aa < 1463844765 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serial: aa aa aa Checksum: aa Reserved: aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa aa < 1463844768 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That got a bit of extra spaces, I think. < 1463844944 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463846267 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463846270 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1463846272 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all < 1463846307 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anybody alive? < 1463846318 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone advice info about kundalini yoga? < 1463846426 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dmberez < 1463846429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmberez: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1463846435 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ I think you might be looking for one of those other channels. < 1463846452 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1463846554 0 :dmberez!~smuxi@77.40.116.120 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463846603 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1463846672 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463847152 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a channel for programming language design and theory? < 1463848149 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463850871 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Progress: by turning off the external SCSI drive enclosure, and starting a shell *before* the "detect disks" step, I managed to -- by manually loading scsi_mod, esp and scsi_sd -- read bytes off the internal disk. Now I just need to figure out the external enclosure. < 1463851032 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fzaxizemjaejeaks JOIN :#esoteric < 1463851934 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: REMOVABLE CHICKEN < 1463853830 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, news from my CaC server: "ext2fs_open2: Bad magic number in super-block" < 1463854243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one HackEgo is on seems to have been booted. < 1463854261 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that means the wiki bridge is down. < 1463854296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, let's see whether a new VM does the trick :P < 1463854343 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only slightly suspicious message on there so far is [ 2591.369655] hrtimer: interrupt took 49110777 ns < 1463854456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/YOIK is what I had. < 1463854480 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did not save any complete log. I'm still regarding the whole thing as a toy.) < 1463855001 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny that they set up /etc/apt/sources.list to fetch debian stable, but security updates for wheezy? < 1463855007 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. no, squeeze. < 1463855053 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463855137 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. There's insmod, but no rmmod. < 1463855160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to kernel california < 1463855168 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1463855176 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1463855184 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's no sys... hey, there is a sysfs. < 1463855193 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I can maybe do the normal SCSI bus rescan. < 1463855215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, rmmod is tricky... :) < 1463855223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to release resources etc. < 1463855271 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo '- - -' > /sys/class/scsi_host/host1/scan < 1463855273 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! < 1463855281 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not maybe so good. < 1463855321 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we are all prisoners here of our own /dev < 1463855351 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder what exactly happened, it worked fine (based on command-line messages) when OpenBSD was driving it. < 1463855428 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1463855432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1463855820 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any examples where a programming language is simply a spelling reform of a previous one? < 1463855862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :J and APL hth < 1463855871 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I wouldn't know, although I have seen similar things before < 1463855874 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking, what if I made a new language that is simply APL but --- < 1463855878 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.... < 1463855880 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463855883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(J is not quite APL actually, I think?) < 1463855913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL can accept English and Latin keywords, originally it was English < 1463855922 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it every time I come up with an awesome idea it's already been done < 1463855991 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is call "Bob Profit Principle" is what I have heard it call when, if you think of something, probably someone else has already done too. < 1463856028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day, your awesome ideas will get their comeuppance < 1463856065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The only Google search results for that phrase are IRC logs of you talking about it. < 1463856074 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463856079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, do you like some of my ideas? (I have had many kind of ideas too (but so has other people of course); some may be bad but some is good thing too, I think) < 1463856092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in some cases time must tell if it is good or not) < 1463856118 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You cannot find everything on Google < 1463856138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: blasphemer alert hth < 1463856160 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the incompatibility between msvc and gcc is basically spelling stuff < 1463856162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think some of your ideas are completely new. < 1463856210 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably some are, at least. < 1463856234 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yes, although you can use #define and #ifdef and #include in a C code. < 1463856268 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it sucks but yeah < 1463856282 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the 64bit 'long' debacle < 1463856302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why is it called that? < 1463856313 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time they had long < 1463856319 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they didn't think long was long enough < 1463856322 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they had long long < 1463856325 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and long long long < 1463856327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is it some sort of market efficiency thing? < 1463856334 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do you mean Bob Profit Principle? I think it is someone's name. < 1463856344 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and long long long long long long long long < 1463856354 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and long uint512_t, and... < 1463856356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone is named Bob Profit? < 1463856367 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think "Profit" is his name. < 1463856385 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you sure this isn't a spam email < 1463856400 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's down to the fact that win32 used to be, well, win16 < 1463856417 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't an email message < 1463856437 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means int was 16 bits when they came up with a lot of win32 interfaces, so they used long for 32 bits < 1463856467 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: is this why Windows API writers have a love affair with calling 32 bits a DWORD < 1463856477 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1463856497 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463856506 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's like how every library has its < 1463856515 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLUINT32 GLINT16 etc < 1463856517 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : for life < 1463856531 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, this was way before stdint.h < 1463856540 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it is called DWORD in the x86 instruction set? < 1463856567 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes dword is the traditional name for 32bit integers in the x86 world < 1463856583 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the assembler guys < 1463856593 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, the assemblers call it that - the assembly is descended from realmode assembly, which ofc had 16-bit as WORD... < 1463856606 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc has a different evolutionary path < 1463856652 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes from like unix servers and SPARC workstations and stuff like that, so it was more or less always 32 bits < 1463856660 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it uses int < 1463856691 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite has its own 64-bit type, but it doesn't have its own types for 32-bits and 16-bits (for 32-bits it just uses int, for a pointer to a string of 16-bit characters it uses void*) < 1463856727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH, I think mixed mode architectures only really exist because of 1. "compact instructions" (for ARM Thumb), and 2. proprietary software (because otherwise they could just introduce a new mode and have everybody recompile) < 1463856746 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it could upgrade long to 64 bits without breaking a metric ton worth of grody windows.h win-16 inherited interfaces < 1463856804 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : it's just the fate of long-living architectures < 1463856806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But some programs may be written in assembly language, so it can apply even to free software in some cases. < 1463856827 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 16 bits and eventually it gets bumped up to 32 bits, and then to 64 bits < 1463856832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ZSNES < 1463856850 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remeber looking at the source for that and being like NOPE < 1463856864 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did zsnes ever even run in real mode? < 1463856866 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But also in some cases you can easily emulate older instruction sets) < 1463856871 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it was always 32bits < 1463856890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: that's not the point, it's the fact it won't be going anywhere anytime soon in terms of porting < 1463856895 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but how much work would it take to change it to 64 bit? < 1463856899 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original 8088 instruction set look OK to me but they made an extreme mess of the new one. < 1463856918 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ : why would you port zsnes to 64 bit? < 1463856936 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like it addresses more than 4gb of data < 1463856944 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: uh... i guess you woldn't do that < 1463856977 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if x86-64 hadn't been backward compatible you would have to < 1463856988 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463856999 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you'd port it for more registers and rip-relative addressing, or e.g. because it's easier to make a native 64-bit package than to rely on multilib and 32-bit compat < 1463857025 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ : if x86-64 wasn't backwards compatible then it wouldn't be x86 < 1463857047 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish 214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47056 5* 03M654 5* (+987) 10Created page with "Deadfish 2 is a superset of [[Deadfish]] made by [[User:M654|m654]]. As well as an accumulator, Deadfish 2 has a string which can be set using the input command. == Commands..." < 1463857053 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess it would be kinda silly too since you could come up with a cleaner architecture if you're starting anew < 1463857091 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they actually tried that, but what they came up with was Itanium :P < 1463857104 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itanium was worse than x86 < 1463857185 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intel tried to start new architectures that could potentially replace x86 4 times... and only one of them was actually better than x86 (i960) < 1463857217 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other instruction set, invented by Knuth, is MMIX < 1463857249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMIX has the advantage of being 100% patent free. < 1463857300 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fzaxizemjaejeaks PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmix has the disadvantage of not actually being a serious instruction set < 1463857327 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if itanium was just a MIPS ripoff like what everybody else did, it wouldn't have shipped late, and it wouldn't have been slower than pa-risc2 and pentium3 and athlon, and even if the first generation of chips sucked they could've actually improved them much more easily < 1463857424 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they tried to be smart < 1463857479 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still love how x86 chips these days are RISC running dynamically translated bytecode < 1463857510 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover : it depends on what you call 'RISC' < 1463857540 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes and that is stupid in my opinion < 1463857560 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not stupid, imho that's why they have the fastest CPUs < 1463857564 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, can't really see any other way for things to work out < 1463857569 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho the real frontier is that CISC has load+compute operations < 1463857581 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which x86 has but none of the RISCs do < 1463857604 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :recent x86 designs benefit from this < 1463857617 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get 2 operations for the price of 1 < 1463857641 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how the athlon was the same speed as the 4-way-ooo Dec Alpha < 1463857661 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though the dec alpha was 4 IPC and then athlon was 3 IPC < 1463857708 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the athlon only had 8 logical registers instead of 32 and it didn't have opcodes with different destination than source < 1463857747 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of having a free memory load (and potentially even a store) in every opcode offsets these disadvantages < 1463857781 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :AmyBSD < 1463857790 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the overly compact encoding means you get more code cache for the same data size < 1463857806 0 :AmyBSD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1463857820 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the overly compact encoding means it can only do 3 instructions per cycle instead of 4 :D < 1463857852 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wouldn't call x86 chips RISC < 1463857862 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're basically really fast CISC < 1463857896 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course they rename all registers and break down everything into microcodes... well, really fast RISCs do that too < 1463857923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :my understanding was that the uops are pretty risc-like < 1463857975 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sortof... I think core2 has 2-in-1 uops < 1463858005 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a load+compute op decodes to "1 uop made out of 2 parts" < 1463858049 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uops have renamed registers and stuff like that < 1463858067 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're only risc-like because they do 1 thing in 1 cycle... but that's what an uop is < 1463858124 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I guess what risc means is that you remove as many multi-uop opcodes as possible < 1463858140 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because most aren't really worth the trouble < 1463858154 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although ARM has multi-uop opcodes < 1463858201 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so once you're down to uops, then everything is sorta risc-like yes... but that's normal, uops are like that < 1463858252 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the advantage of having a 'free' memory load in an instruction? < 1463858267 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :code size? < 1463858343 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1463858355 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes 1 less instruction to get your result < 1463858385 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for instance, to match the speed of the 4-op per cycle core2, you'd need a 5 or 6 op per cycle risc < 1463858401 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lowers the number of register file accesses < 1463858449 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :add r0, [r8 + 16] reads 2 times and writes 1 time; < 1463858473 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :load r1, [r8 + 16] add r0, r1 reads 4 times and writes 2 times < 1463858489 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need a larger register file with more ports < 1463858507 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it tends to take up less space in the instruction cache < 1463858521 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :might you not end up getting the same microcode for both of those, though < 1463858548 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest we all switch to DCPU-16! < 1463858560 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can do the CISC version in 1 micro-op < 1463858580 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone make a 83-key Model F keyboard anymore? < 1463858585 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest we all switch to whatever the fuck skullcode runs so i get some closure on the damn thing < 1463858597 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the RISC version is 2 micro-ops no matter how you do it < 1463858606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :✊✋✌➊➋➌➍➎➏➐➑➒➓⍻⍼⍽⍾⍿⏴⏵⏶⏷⏸⏹⏺ꝨꝩꝪꝫꝬꝭꝮꝯꝰꝱꝲꝳꝴꝵꝶꝷꝸꝹꝺꝻꝼꙊꙋꙌꙍꙎꙏꙐꙑꙒꙓꙔꙕꙖꙗꙘꙙꙚꙛꙜꙝꙨꙩꙪꙫꙬꙭ〝〞〟〠< 1463858611 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to write to the register file twice < 1463858613 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx \oren\ < 1463858639 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad, i guess my thinking was, wouldn't the CISC version have to load the memory into some intermediate place on the chip regardless < 1463858659 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but this intermediate place on the chip can be in the middle of the pipeline < 1463858666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, a lot of the complicated stuff in newer instruction sets is very stupid, I think. So I must design it differently < 1463858669 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never has to rename this internmediate place < 1463858682 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it never has to retire/writeback that intermediate place < 1463858695 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it's done the result can disappear < 1463858729 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it doesn't have to resolve all the abstractions between instructions < 1463858738 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1463858740 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman the Burlesque shell is moving to http://64.137.252.151/~burlesque/burlesque.cgi ... and I may need help building the cgi (currently trying...) < 1463858740 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463858761 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the difference between "temp value" and "temp value stored in a program-accessible register" < 1463858764 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean if you can do the load and add in one uop then why not have risc instructions for it? < 1463858775 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1463858787 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it's CISC not RISC :P < 1463858791 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a risc with load-add instructions is basically a cisc :D < 1463858811 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what the hell is the point of RISC < 1463858829 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISCs are easier to build < 1463858834 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and easier to speed optimize < 1463858854 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISCs did 4-instructions per cycle way before x86 < 1463858863 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't have to bother building hardware to e.g. load operands and store them behind the scenes < 1463858865 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1463858878 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's easier to do 4-instructions per cycles because you have less ops, less long latency ops < 1463858894 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1463858931 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's easier because all your ops do at most 2 register file reads and 1 register file write and have at most 2 cycles of latency < 1463858954 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it makes the scheduling easier < 1463858975 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you don't have to cram as many operands in a single op < 1463859037 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, your load-store ops happen only in the load-store unit so it's easy to strictly-order them < 1463859040 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My new kind of computer design has separate video instruction set, audio instruction set, and main instruction set, and have deliberately designed the video instruction set so that no instruction does both read and write (on 6502 some instructions do); other than instruction decoding there is only up to one memory operation per instruction (in some cases there is none, and it would do a dummy read instead). < 1463859071 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of having ops that happen both in the load-store unit which has to be ordered, AND the alu part which is easy to completely reorder willy-nilly < 1463859155 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory if you can find a way to get rid of the program-readable intermediate values in registers, you could do macro-op fusion on load+add instruction sequences and turn a RISC into a CISC < 1463859205 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have some write-only registers maybe < 1463859320 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound like it'd help < 1463859325 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463859350 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm what if you had instructions of the form "load rA, add rB to rC" and "store rA, add rB to rC" < 1463859368 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where rA, rB and rC are always different < 1463859371 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that because the result might get read the CPU has to keep it around with certain assurances, whereas if it's only visible to the one instruction then it can be treated much less carefully < 1463859521 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe someone should just build a big memory pipeline and have a CPU which is just given flags to manipulate that pipeline. < 1463859640 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about some sort of "explicit pipelining" where all instructions contain several actions which don't interfere inside < 1463859882 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman actually building the cgi seems to have worked fine (a cabal file would help though...) but you can't currently log in; please contact me about that... < 1463859883 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463860176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow, instead of having "add [r1] to r3, add [r2] to r4" and having that rearranged, you would write "read [r1], ???; read [r2], add mem to r3; ???, add mem to r4" < 1463860270 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ : hmmmm < 1463860312 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like basically have instructions in the execution sequence, and have a separate stream that tells the logical sequence? < 1463860563 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of going the reverse way < 1463860593 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea would be that each instruction would contain a set of "mini-instructions" for each part of the cpu which are done in parallel < 1463860620 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463860656 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :load accumulator, [rA + imm], add rb, store in rc; load accumulator [rD + imm], add rE, store in rF < 1463860681 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ : that's vliw no? < 1463860852 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in a normal architecture an instruction minght contain microcode "a,b,c,d" and the next might contain "e,f,g,h" and then "i,j,k,l" and then the cpu does "a;be;cfi;dgj;...". my idea is that the instructions might instead just be "cfi" "dgj" < 1463860894 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463860903 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the parallelizability checking is offloaded to the compiler < 1463860993 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not "aei;bfj;cgk;dhl" ? < 1463861154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I also thought of to do some kind of explicit pipelining and also explicit caching and so on < 1463861190 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: i'm assuming that a,e, and i are all the same sort of thing < 1463861202 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the same part of the processor < 1463861208 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the 83-key Model F keyboard? < 1463861210 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463861225 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's value in some way of specifying which instructions are serial and which ones are parallel, but I don't think there's been a really good way yet < 1463861381 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best way yet is vliw but you need calculation-heavy programs and it's hard to adapt vliw programs to later generation cpus < 1463861381 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463861389 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just build a unit which takes in the entire contents of the register file and an operation, and outputs the modified register file/ < 1463861393 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it's used in DSPs < 1463861396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you specify too much in the instructions then it takes control from the CPU engineers < 1463861416 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : because then you need to run 32 operations in parallel? < 1463861427 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you need 64 read ports from the register file < 1463861457 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on your definition of what "one operation" is. < 1463861511 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just build a cpu where the only operand is RealWorld < 1463861557 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : also how do you place your data cache ? < 1463861623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, memory accesses wouldn't be doable in operations, rather, they'd be handled in the "segment" holding those. < 1463861668 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you write a segment which adds the current memory value to A, then adds 1 to the memory address, and if that address is at some limit, go to the next segment, else loop. < 1463861683 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The memory access would be at the segment boundary. < 1463861772 0 :jakleen!~jakleen@77.126.148.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463862040 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙨꙩꙪꙫꙬꙭꙮ < 1463862054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463862072 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion[1] < 1463862085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: *hppavellon[1] < 1463862095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Or whatever boily usually says < 1463862116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: A normal chessmatch is 1-chess. You can play with arbitrary values, though. It's up to how masochistic the players are. < 1463862178 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-chess and up should only be played by computers < 1463862199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm still investigating what 1.5-chess and such are) < 1463862245 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about hyperdimensional chess or something? < 1463862318 0 :jakleen!~jakleen@77.126.148.97 PART #esoteric : < 1463862484 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stꜽ fluffy < 1463862517 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok oren < 1463862520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will stay fluffy < 1463862527 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rolls about in a fluffy manner < 1463862534 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this makes no sense) < 1463862551 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it has any meaning to you, hit yourself with a frying pan and try again.) < 1463862562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: No < 1463862574 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have no idea what ꜲꜳꜴꜵꜶꜷꜸꜹꜺꜻꜼꜽ are for < 1463862585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: In 0-chess, white wins automatically < 1463862613 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ... I don't get it. Is the number how many moves you get? < 1463862629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: No, I'm about to unveil the godly part < 1463862631 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you analyze "winning" or "losing" until the game at least reaches a check? < 1463862652 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or anyone's even lost a piece? < 1463862685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: In n-chess, every time a piece is captured, the players initiate a game of (n-1)-chess, in which white is the attacking player and black the defending player. The winner's piece goes to the defending square, the loser's piece is captured by the winner. In the event of a draw, white is interpreted as winning (or maybe black). < 1463862702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: tempi, positional strength, piece coordination, gut feeling? < 1463862710 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463862721 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I'm reading chess reviews. I have no clue what all that means :P < 1463862755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It should not be played by mere mortals < 1463862759 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote capture < 1463862762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :679) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. Glurk. < 1463862777 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463862787 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were talking about continuous chess. < 1463862791 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glurk" < 1463862798 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463862799 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :to date only one game has been played < 1463862807 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it's hard to make articulate sounds with only half a body < 1463862811 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oklopol won because i let him talk me into changing the rules in his favour < 1463862813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes. < 1463862822 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I suppose you could play 2-chess if you had a month to do it < 1463862823 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the atlantic is involved. < 1463862825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: To play n-chess, you must play chess. < 1463862831 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 2-chess < 1463862841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: n-chess where n=2 < 1463862848 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463862855 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :very clever, now answer properly < 1463862861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: please stop making up vacuous terms. < 1463862863 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every capture involves a game of normal chess < 1463862866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, that's literally the definition < 1463862869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Scroll up < 1463862874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I just explained it < 1463862876 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's n-chess < 1463862882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SCROLL UP < 1463862886 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463862906 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, right < 1463862910 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think phantom_hoover assumed you were joking < 1463862916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I was not < 1463862920 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would take maybe a year or two to play a game of 3 chess < 1463862932 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463862936 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i saw him talking about it earlier and i assumed it would be buried in scrollback < 1463862957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's only meant to be played by million-person superminds, humans who have interfaced with a computer, and perfect beings woven of spacetime < 1463862969 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Borg. < 1463862980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Those fall under (a) and (b) < 1463863010 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know, they keep getting outsmarted by a spaceship with a name that sounds like really bad software. < 1463863018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how long it is until n-chess proliferates and he hears about it somewhere else and feels smug < 1463863021 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (b). < 1463863045 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And definitely not (c)) < 1463863066 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], this is clearly the place to involve the surreals < 1463863079 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463863086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Already done (kind of); someone on ##math invented limit ordinal chess based on n-chess < 1463863101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Though you could play traditional omega-chess if you can win a game of n-chess without capturing < 1463863108 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, new plan: kill everybody who knows about n-chess. < 1463863117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: No. < 1463863118 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This will prevent the demise of humanity via n-chess. < 1463863147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Sorry, but I've upgraded humanity to 2-humanity. Every time you kill someone, you must run a simulation of the entire universe to determine success < 1463863152 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463863157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too easy. < 1463863164 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... < 1463863168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463863188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which raises the question of how one "wins" the universe... < 1463863192 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but I upgraded plot-foiling < 1463863196 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you foil a plot < 1463863205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must run a simulation of plot-foiling to determine success < 1463863210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1463863239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I upgraded upgrading. Every time you upgrade something, you must read every Yo Dawg meme on the internet. < 1463863240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since I was the one who started it in the first place, the rules hadn't applied by the time I had started - they only apply afterward, < 1463863243 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463863244 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1463863246 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo < 1463863260 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I upgraded verbs < 1463863261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I will accept your unconditional surrender. < 1463863263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you use a verb < 1463863275 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must read the oxford english dictionary out loud < 1463863278 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in it's entirety < 1463863285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But only the verbs? < 1463863292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should stop. < 1463863293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, all of it < 1463863295 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1463863298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should < 1463863309 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we annoyed the linguists < 1463863309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I upgraded sto- no. < 1463863318 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you didn't < 1463863321 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your rules apply to you too! < 1463863327 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't upgrade stopping < 1463863343 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... wait... < 1463863344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solidity matrices | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1463863345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAGG < 1463863355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Recursion Error.) < 1463863397 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...does #esoteric contain any added sugar? < 1463863455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: No, it all occured naturally < 1463863469 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1463863475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could argue that no sugar is added, because the sugar-adding process is part of the natural course of the universe < 1463863486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've upgraded quantum physics... < 1463863488 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, does it contain gluten? < 1463863592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hereby releases n-chess under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International, with the addendum that he gets bragging rights every time it is mentioned < 1463863615 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a bit late for that < 1463863638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I don't want attribution < 1463863646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Not really < 1463863664 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not really"? < 1463863679 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points at the massive clusters of gluten all over the surface of a random rock < 1463863689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Well, every time it is mentioned by someone I don't know < 1463863699 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that < 1463863732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: < 1463863778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1463863807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: -1-chess? < 1463863824 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463863828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess -n-chess is one where wins are negated < 1463863843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So getting checkmated makes you win < 1463863846 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about -0-chess? < 1463863852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yeah, that's the problem < 1463863968 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we agreed that an infinitesimal amount below 0 is below 0, but an infinitesimal chance is none at all? From that, we can then state that fractional values are measured by distance from 0 and reflect the chance the value will be flipped. < 1463863979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Sure < 1463864005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 1-chess has a fractional of 0, and on distance-from-0 that's 0, so there is no chance the value will be flipped. < 1463864014 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.5-chess will result in all games actually having a random value. < 1463864016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think -n-chess works if we flip who plays white in subgames < 1463864051 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe??? < 1463864056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't think that fractional n-chess should rely on probabilistic computing < 1463864061 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess. < 1463864072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't think it matters when n>0, but when n=0 it makes everything work? Maybe? < 1463864075 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that this neatly rounds out the space of numbers. < 1463864078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: There's also annihilation chess < 1463864086 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up. < 1463864088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But you need to add new pieces < 1463864102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So that it's balanced) < 1463864135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a piece captures another piece, the lesser-powered piece is destroyed and the greater-powered piece downgraded by the number of ranks in the lesser-powered piece < 1463864139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ranks directly correspond to power < 1463864305 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you could make a version of the turing infinite tape in different board games < 1463864316 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make them turing complete < 1463864337 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some kind of expandable rubik's cube < 1463864357 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an infinitely wide chess board < 1463864366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an infinite number of pawns... < 1463864402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the pieces following rules that are both a TC-CA and accurate to the game rules... < 1463864469 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There'd have to be an order of operations of course... < 1463864492 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the right consrtuction you can make an infinite chessboard that expands infinitely rightwards and downwards into a sort of grid < 1463864511 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the left side and top side acts as a kind of border < 1463864523 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go with top side and bottom side. < 1463864523 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I made up the new kind of computer, would you buy it and/or build a clone of it and/or write a program for it and/or sell it? < 1463864531 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use king & queen to work out direction... < 1463864544 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then do turing complete calculation by moving a king and constantly keeping the king in check < 1463864559 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forcing it on a path < 1463864570 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: depends what. If your computer has > 16 MiB of RAM, I might write a BytePusher emulator... < 1463864594 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Ah, I see. < 1463864611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: So the players would actually be precisely following Chess rules and would have no room for disambiguation. < 1463864619 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1463864632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have decided it would certainly have enough address space, although I don't know how much RAM would be included by default (but you could add more) < 1463864652 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like white would be 1 move from being checkmated < 1463864671 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: I know how you could get two kings to continually advance right-wards. Have two endless rows of castles, one at the top, one at the bottom. < 1463864674 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only way for white to survive is to keep black in perpetual check < 1463864720 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with my system, the players would swap turns going forward. < 1463864722 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the program doesn't halt then white can force a draw < 1463864723 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad, infinite chess is known-incomputable < 1463864769 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the program halts then either white can win, or white always loses (depending on how the halting end of the board is constructed) < 1463864778 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just construct an infinite tree such that there's an infinite branch iff some turing machine halts < 1463864826 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover : hm yeah I guess there's a variety of infinite boards that are turing complete < 1463864839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463864850 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I dunno if there's a proof for the simplest kind < 1463864869 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a board with a 1d repeating section to act as an infinite tape) < 1463865000 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to construct some kind of conveyor belt < 1463865019 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a wire crossing < 1463865025 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a memory cell < 1463866202 0 :notzerk!~notzerk@176.10.104.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463866331 0 :notzerk!~notzerk@176.10.104.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have Discord and want to join a fun server. L3L Chat's https://discord.gg/0um0KUI34PBX846G < 1463866378 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol discord < 1463866623 0 :notzerk!~notzerk@176.10.104.51 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463866637 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's discord? < 1463866678 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sone chat nonsens for these letsplay twitch hipsters < 1463866706 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i u derstand its like a less horrible teamspeak < 1463866753 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what teamspeak is either. is it like AOL < 1463866765 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had AIM once upon a time < 1463866813 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it like that... wait, what's it called. < 1463866825 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ventrilo? < 1463866830 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine you take irc, remove some comfortable features to actually chat, add some uncomfortable features to voicechat < 1463866833 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are done < 1463866857 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As popularized by that song. < 1463866881 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boten Anna. < 1463866891 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi sitter har i venten och spelar lite DOTA vi springer < 1463866900 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think that's a reference to Ventrilo? < 1463866909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :de monstandet vi sleepar < 1463866962 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that a different song? Am I mising things up? < 1463866968 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/0OzWIFX8M-Y < 1463866971 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOTA < 1463866982 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah -- same guy, different song. < 1463867007 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't remeber the lyrics very accurately < 1463867027 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also! There's Mumble, I've heard of that. < 1463867390 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/y6120QOlsfU < 1463867460 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be a very loud mumble < 1463867568 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1463867593 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463867659 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463867754 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fzaxizemjaejeaks QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463867824 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzqihnginnmraqwr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463867824 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq JOIN :#esoteric < 1463867966 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wasonihxusrqqniy JOIN :#esoteric < 1463867973 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, isn't that Helsingin tuomiokirkko? < 1463868101 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that makes no sense, then it's immediately Huvilakuja right there in the next scene. < 1463868109 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those aren't next to each other at all. < 1463868118 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they could've ran all the way there in the meanwhile. < 1463868170 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: What programming language would you use for writing it, would it be written in Forth, in C, in BASIC, or in assembly language? (I would suspect it may be too slow if you don't write at least part of it in assembly language, and assembly language is likely required if you need custom display programs.) < 1463868223 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've lost track of the conversation. < 1463868251 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said if my computer has > 16 MiB of RAM then you might write the BytePusher emulator < 1463868285 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretically. And that's assuming it had suitable display hardware. < 1463868288 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I don't know the details yet of screen resolutions higher than 320x240, so that might also affect it) < 1463868340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's also assuming I actually even bother. And there's also the fact this is all hypothetical anyway. < 1463868358 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, for now it is hypothetical and the plans can be changed anyways. < 1463868385 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, zzo38 - are there any Brainfuck programs that you would particularly like to see on BytePusher? < 1463868408 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the one that they take over the world? < 1463868418 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, perfect! I already had that one compiled! < 1463868457 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I say "compiled". It's actually still interpreted, but the code has to be strapped to the binary. < 1463868464 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1463868480 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check current running program... < 1463868490 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Finally Taking Over The World". < 1463868542 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I can't really strap a licence blob to a BytePusher executable without some work, so it's probably-not-entirely complying with the GPL licence. < 1463868593 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463868627 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just add the data to the end unused; that isn't really quite it but it is idea. Another way would be to add a screen with license information, and then it switches out of that screen once any key is pushed, and start the rest of the program. < 1463868653 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I'm kind of in the middle of something else ^.^; < 1463868699 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does that mean I have to now give you the entirety of the source code to the BytePusher Brainfuck interpreter? And does that include the compiler... < 1463868701 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah. < 1463868725 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be fine with it in theory, but this is distractions upon distractions < 1463868740 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does not include the compiler as far as I know, but maybe it does for the interpreter I don't know. < 1463868758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but the compiler's entirely custom < 1463868796 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463868931 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, Wikipedia. You've got the "List of lists of lists", but you *don't* have the "List of music videos shot in Finland". < 1463869040 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463869408 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463869474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463869757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: infinite-player chess/ < 1463869759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1463869767 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463869777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every player only makes one move in the entire game < 1463870353 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1463870765 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463871475 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463871477 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't know what my new kind of computer design would be called (even codename are not provided at this time). < 1463871479 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1463871713 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kindof both retro and modern at the same time < 1463871744 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463871840 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the graphics capabilities are different than BytePusher. Two kinds of formats could be supported for all-points-addressable playfield graphics, which are 4-plane PseudoColor XY format and 15-plane TrueColor Z format. You could also use bobs, which use something like "Chunky-Extra-HalfBrite" format. (But you could also do tiles and sprites, and can even change it per scanline.) < 1463872112 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463872291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463872321 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1463872501 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yes that is part of what the point of it is though < 1463872554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION surprised a badger today < 1463872599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it suddenly leapt out near some garbage bins. < 1463872609 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463872617 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463872723 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably not make the blitter more complicated than I have already written, although an over-complicated (and very slow) blitter could be made by adding muxcomp into the blitter, as well as configurable data sizes, line mode (like Amiga has), and an outer loop as well as the inner loop; with this over-complicated variant it would probably do anything you need the blitter to do. Of course I won't do it like this though; it would probably be < 1463872994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much must Draughts be improved before it just becomes chess with a different set of armies? < 1463873019 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't know, but you can try. < 1463873052 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"improved", hmm < 1463873728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "improved" was used loosely < 1463873946 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so was "chess" < 1463874107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow's evening forecast looks wet. < 1463874112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1463874113 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 212220Z 11008KT CAVOK 13/03 Q1006 RMK WIND 670FT 17015KT < 1463874115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463874122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1463874131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463874207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profit \ 1W \ Instant \ Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. \ Fuse (You may cast one or both halves of this card from your hand.) \ [This is half of the split card Profit // Loss.] \ DGM-U < 1463874207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust//bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. < 1463874208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463874423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust spam >>>>>>>>>([-]>)*-1 < 1463874424 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan.spam: points -13.81, score 10.75, rank 47/47 < 1463874430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1463874452 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "bfjoust"? < 1463874466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1463874466 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1463874522 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463874531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: a programming game and bf derivative < 1463874574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463874634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust spam >>>>>>>>>([-][-]>)*-1 < 1463874635 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan.spam: points -16.62, score 9.35, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463874644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that got worse. < 1463874647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1463874664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never was much of a jouster. < 1463874665 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust troddler >[-]+[>[-]+] < 1463874666 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.troddler: points -25.64, score 5.76, rank 47/47 < 1463874716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that one won't manage to clear a flag for 2 rounds < 1463874734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1463874740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1463874763 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust troddler >>>>>>>>>>[-]+[>[-]+] < 1463874765 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.troddler: points -17.93, score 8.91, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463874796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the current hill is ridiculously hard to beat. < 1463874854 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A variant of "fuse" is "fuseback" that is not official but someone suggested it and I have made up the more precise rules for it and a few cards using it. Fuseback means you can cast both halves of the card from your graveyard (you can't cast only one half from your graveyard, nor both halves from your hand), in which case it is exiled when it resolves. < 1463874857 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>(+)*128>>>>>>[-]+[>[-]+] < 1463874867 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust troddler >>(+)*128>>>>>>[-]+[>[-]+] < 1463874868 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.troddler: points -20.76, score 7.62, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463874874 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got worse, somehow. < 1463874888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463874897 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust troddler >>->>>>>>[-]+[>[-]+] < 1463874898 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.troddler: points -17.05, score 9.15, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463874909 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. back on track < 1463874921 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust troddler >>->>->>->>[-]+[>[-]+] < 1463874922 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.troddler: points -17.76, score 8.84, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463874957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eggspert < 1463874961 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eggspert? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463874974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1463874977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeesh//See yeeesh. < 1463875038 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust troddler >>->>>>>>[-]+[->[-<+]<[>>[-]]+] < 1463875040 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.troddler: points -32.62, score 2.55, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463875055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH I lost track of what my code was doing aroubd about the end part < 1463875079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light Side {W} Instant ;; Target white creature gets +0/+1 until end of turn. ;; Target player gains 1 life. /// Dark Side {B} Instant ;; Target black creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn. ;; Target player loses 1 life. /// Fuseback < 1463875158 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463875187 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: btw the wiki has a lot of strategy discussion. < 1463875233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know a quarter of it. < 1463875262 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [[-].(+)*8] < 1463875263 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -27.76, score 2.83, rank 47/47 < 1463875271 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [[-](+)*8] < 1463875273 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -27.81, score 2.83, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875276 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1463875293 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: fluff < 1463875319 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [>+] < 1463875319 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -43.69, score 0.42, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875333 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [>-] < 1463875334 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -43.69, score 0.42, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875344 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [>----] < 1463875344 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -44.19, score 0.48, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875358 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems I am attempting to get the lowest amount of points possible by accident < 1463875374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that basically only goes one cell forward ever, i think < 1463875383 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1463875384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1463875389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION misreads again < 1463875392 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [>----.] < 1463875392 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -43.62, score 0.66, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875399 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [>+.] < 1463875400 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -44.02, score 0.37, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust suicide < < 1463875403 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan.suicide: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1463875412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that's the absolute minimum < 1463875422 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [->+<][-<+>] < 1463875422 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -34.88, score 2.62, rank 47/47 < 1463875432 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463875441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are, admittedly, close in some of those. < 1463875445 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness [[->+<][-<+>]] < 1463875445 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -33.45, score 2.94, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875731 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness (-)*128+[.-+] < 1463875732 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -19.64, score 8.24, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875760 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness >>>>+<<<<(-)*128+[.-+] < 1463875761 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -23.52, score 5.76, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness >>>>++<<<<(-)*128+[.-+] < 1463875771 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -22.60, score 6.11, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875780 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness >>>>(+)*8<<<<(-)*128+[.-+] < 1463875781 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -21.14, score 6.60, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875790 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness >>>>(+)*8<+<+<+<(-)*128+[.-+] < 1463875791 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -22.12, score 6.45, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875801 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness >(+)*8<(-)*128+[.-+] < 1463875802 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -20.24, score 7.09, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463875928 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust madness >>>>+<<<<[[+][-]] < 1463875929 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.madness: points -25.19, score 3.16, rank 47/47 (--) < 1463876084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone come up with a practical reason to summon Gortak, the World-Eater in a chess game. < 1463876100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see ) < 1463876114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the world looked like a tasty snack? < 1463876164 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gortak < 1463876166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gortak? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463876238 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: If I'm losing at chess, then I'd summon Gortak as a scorched earth policy. < 1463876252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But you have 3 fucking queens < 1463876263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't mean I can't be checkmated. < 1463876308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that summoning Gortak or whatever else you want to summon would be a valid move in a game of chess (unless you make the variant). < 1463876337 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -i siona wisdom/* < 1463876345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/cat introduction:cat introduction is the process of piping one or more extra `cat` commands into your pipeline; occasionally this is even actually useful. \ wisdom/nvd:nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel pr < 1463876359 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep --quiet -i siona wisdom/* < 1463876360 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463876365 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep --silent -i siona wisdom/* < 1463876367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463876381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep --no-messages -i siona wisdom/* < 1463876383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/cat introduction:cat introduction is the process of piping one or more extra `cat` commands into your pipeline; occasionally this is even actually useful. \ wisdom/nvd:nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional. \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1463876393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep --no-messages -il siona wisdom/* < 1463876395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/cat introduction \ wisdom/nvd \ wisdom/reflection < 1463876485 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure someone, somewhere, could construct a case where the king is in check, ironically being prevented from leaving by one of the queens, so Gortak is summoned and the king makes a move. < 1463876497 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...unless Gortak's summoning counts as a turn. < 1463876529 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, all Gortak is good for is removing 3 queens from the board. < 1463876772 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes adding extra cat command can be used to force the program to treat it as a pipe instead of a terminal or file, if it cares. < 1463876842 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It help if you are in check from queens I suppose < 1463876858 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nope, they have to be queens you control < 1463876890 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, then it might help to prevent blocking your own king, but it won't help if you are in check (unless it is a variant that includes Chinese cannons perhaps) < 1463876930 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to prevent opponent being stalemated < 1463876953 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463876993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but unfortunately if you summon Gortak nobody can ever win at chess ever again. < 1463877020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, to be specific "if Gortak enters game". < 1463877022 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463877031 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if Gortak is summoned but doesn't show up, you're OK. < 1463877065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's already full from eating exo-jupiters. < 1463877074 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so you just have to block off the cell where they would be entered into, maybe (assuming it is a legal move still in such case) < 1463877112 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just know someone's going to summon Gortak now and stop us from ever winning chess... < 1463877133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch there are other side effects hth < 1463877134 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming it is a legal move, which it is not. < 1463877137 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hziulquoigmnzhah of Cykranosh, the dread spanw of Cxaxukluth from http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4072 has a more funny name than Gortak the Destroyer < 1463877173 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, but is that even relevant? < 1463877178 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1463877185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I thought. < 1463877237 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor is Siona Patricia pa-Lehyll pa-Drusia Ishgur-Sal, Lady of Tyren, sometime general in His Majesty's army, dame of the Empire, and senator of Tuqnil relevant. < 1463877414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463877452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463877455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1463877468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09pectcoin 02antiacoin 06silacoin 13aveacoin 04syndejcoin 07discoin 08rumcoin 09barbazicoin 02ettecoin 06scabcogscoin 13highted!coin 04infedwriumcoin 07ted!coin 08fcoin 09constitycoin 02egexcoin 06recusskateflipedarezcoin 13sbacoin 04chargacoin 07twostepcoin < 1463877478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1463877492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure whether that reboot helped or not. < 1463877500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1463877505 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Gortok the Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil < 1463877509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eonfrinford < 1463877516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 50 < 1463877524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eut mirr ilit elean lil mores beaugh hoxyd prepulch diable stelle cipera hungerresuifh corship assan deb rerg kyt ston exeraphild bomier pelle poorto yoacht citurn < 1463877555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's not timing out quite as much. < 1463878081 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/coins < 1463878085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/coins < 1463878184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think the expensive part is in words < 1463878249 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ted!coins have something to do with TED talks. < 1463878428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to properly catholicize Chess < 1463878454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bishop, Archbishop, Cardinal, Pope, Priest, Deacon, Altar Boy, and anything else < 1463878485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesuit. < 1463878603 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes if you want to make up the Catholic version < 1463878732 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463878765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463878780 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jan 1 06:26:04 kernel: Out of Memory: Kill process 7145 (debootstrap) score 71 and children. < 1463878783 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jan 1 06:26:04 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 14690 (ar). < 1463878788 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't very conductive to the installation. < 1463878817 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to install and how much RAM is in your computer? < 1463878839 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian etch/sparc, 32 megabytes of RAM, ~500 MB of swap. < 1463878869 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor process... poor poor process... < 1463878870 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :About all of that swap is free, but I guess it wasn't good enough. < 1463878995 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. I don't have any pressing reason why I need to install anything on it, I just thought it might be helpful if someone wants to take that box, so they can possibly fiddle around without having to set up the netboot environment. < 1463879068 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what are you trying to install? < 1463879150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Debian etch/sparc" < 1463879169 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I'm trying to install Debian. < 1463879183 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Version etch, because it's the latest one with sparc32 support.) < 1463879244 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1463879281 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything else that you could install that has sparc32 support? < 1463879301 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenBSD would probably be fine, that's what I used to run. < 1463879319 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try that maybe < 1463879368 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could. It's just more complicated to boot from the network for installation than Debian. (In particular, it needs a NFS server to mount the installer root filesystem from. Debian can use an initrd. Which is probably one of the reasons it runs out of memory, to be fair.) < 1463879383 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll try it tomorrow. < 1463879681 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the blitter in my computer design to include a stop condition as well as the copy condition (it might be helpful with C programming)? < 1463879942 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example to implement such things as strcpy) < 1463880077 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463880103 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more flexibility is good, but: < 1463880119 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the blitter is parallel, people may want to reserve the blitter for their application < 1463880131 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so using it for a mere strcpy seems wasteful < 1463880135 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463880173 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the application knows what it wants :) < 1463880202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just a note if you write a standard library for this. I haven't actually seen any documentation on your architecture, BTW) < 1463880205 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not parallel; it takes up CPU cycles but would be faster than executing a loop. (Also it is much simpler than the Amiga blitter) < 1463880219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1463880253 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: The document so far is http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/new.computer < 1463880264 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is hardly complete, just some ideas for now) < 1463880270 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...CF? < 1463880277 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Compact Flash) < 1463880281 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1463880308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what you can use for external read/write media. (For external read-only media you can use a CD or DVD.) < 1463880378 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is "low voltage == red" "high voltage == green" "phase == blue" a real standard??? < 1463880458 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palette has 16 entries, but "RGB" suggests 8. Perhaps you mean IRGB? < 1463880459 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as I know, I just needed some way to do voltage/phase. < 1463880499 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so basically using the VPP mode involves knowing details about your video standard. < 1463880505 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Each palette entry is a 24-bit RGB (8-bits per channel). < 1463880544 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes, that is what VPP mode involves. (Also VPP mode only applies to analog output, and is not used for digital.) < 1463880578 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"phase" is relative. < 1463880618 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know, it would be relative to colour burst probably. < 1463880666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also only half of the phases need to be implemented, because the other half can be implemented by switching the low-voltage with high-voltage.) < 1463880677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub of solidity matrices | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time, stevia | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1463880729 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463880750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: i hope that answers your question < 1463880781 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463880785 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any of the star programming languages today incorporate the Propagators paradigm? < 1463880803 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: What does that mean though? < 1463880930 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like OOP, and FP, the paradigm of Propagators was proposed a few years back . . . wondering if Haskell, Scala, Py, JS, et al, incorporate it in any measure . . . :P < 1463880954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( actually, there should be ~ 25% helium ) < 1463880956 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know if I do not know how it works. < 1463880977 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know Haskell and JavaScript programming but without know what "Propagators" is, does not help much. < 1463880998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: Radul's thing? < 1463881056 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about Radul < 1463881059 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463881079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_nucleosynthesis < 1463881099 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: perhaps describing the paradigm will help? < 1463881134 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463881147 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you support Compact Flash-Recordable? < 1463881174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know. < 1463881344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist 275 < 1463881361 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist 275: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas < 1463881449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx tdh hth < 1463881470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't think I get this one. < 1463881635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Did you read all of this document? < 1463881640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns that the amount of deuterium in the universe is considered evidence of dark matter < 1463881674 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you mean your computer document - not every last detail, and to be entirely honest I have no idea why you have so many processors. < 1463881725 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I thought it explain why? < 1463881751 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is so that you can have separate programming for video/audio than the main programming. < 1463881822 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an example of the video programming near the end. < 1463881905 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice anti-"programs depending on implementation of BIOS" feature < 1463881926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you read the pdf yet hth < 1463882061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< < 1463882162 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :propagators were alexey radul's phd thesis < 1463882165 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.mit.edu/~axch/www/art.pdf < 1463882180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But menwithHill doesn't know about Radul. < 1463882186 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but they are < 1463882193 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :so know menwithHill knows about radul < 1463882193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe it's a different propagator. < 1463882195 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :now* < 1463882200 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i doubt that < 1463882225 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway tbh they aren't that interesting since radul didn't successfully create a PL based on them, just an awkward scheme implementation that exposes it guts < 1463882250 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the benefit that propagators would have were left to "future work" in his thesis and the technical report < 1463882261 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkapastel: I will look < 1463882269 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. integrating various "propagation" based paradigms like constraint solving, FRP, logic programming etc < 1463882278 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: edwardk was doing some things in https://github.com/ekmett/propagators a while ago < 1463882321 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :interaction nets seem like a better implementation of the idea of multi-directional computation, as they're a lot more abstract than radul's scheme based stuff < 1463882339 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thank you < 1463882351 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkapastel: thank you < 1463882359 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :menwithHill: https://www-lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~mazza/papers/Thesis.pdf for interaction nets < 1463882375 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be scared of the math,just read the first few sections for an introduction < 1463882383 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkapastel: great; thanks < 1463882482 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is something else being used, say in Haskell, that covers propagators features? < 1463882526 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea behind propagators was to unify various propgation based paradigms like constraint solving and functional reactive programming < 1463882532 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :those various paradigms are implemented in haskell, yes < 1463882553 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional reactive programming in particular was originally developed in haskell < 1463882554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463882568 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :and constraint solving is an important part of type inference, so haskellers are very familiar with it < 1463882649 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkapastel: great. Thanks for clues. < 1463882652 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not going to find something else that's like, all of those things in one like alexey wanted, because that's a very hard problem < 1463882659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favourite chess problem is the Bishop's Tour < 1463882699 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't Sussman do something with propagators? < 1463882712 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, sussman was alexey's advisor < 1463882719 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool < 1463882722 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq PRIVMSG #esoteric :they teamed up on the technical report which i linked to < 1463882737 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkapastel: many thanks < 1463882852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the bishop have to tour both white and black squares? < 1463882972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, that's the joke. < 1463882992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was. < 1463883002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I looked it up and I saw people talking about 32-tours of the bishop. < 1463883006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then I thought it wasn't. < 1463883028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, that's pretty stupid because of unfunniness < 1463883139 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Apparently the 32-square variants (at least sometimes) add a "cannot pass over a square already visited" rule to make it at least more interesting, if still not funny. < 1463883152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah < 1463883650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you played Gess? < 1463883753 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, but I have read the rules < 1463883878 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463884267 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463884631 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463884860 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463885542 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463886335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://explosm.net/comics/4240/ < 1463886548 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463886950 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463887131 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463888365 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463888661 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463888876 0 :bender__!~bender@59.189.183.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463888896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463888956 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463889922 0 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463890040 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463890822 0 :bender!~bender@59.189.183.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463890889 0 :bender__!~bender@59.189.183.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463890967 0 :menwithHill!~KVIrc@66.243.214.209 PART #esoteric : < 1463891470 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujwvydzlhgbqcofl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463892029 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463892610 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463894045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1463895900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 http://baesystemsai.blogspot.com/2016/04/two-bytes-to-951m.html suggests that 90 programs can be very valuable. < 1463895900 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1463896520 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463896775 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463898278 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Aah < 1463898318 0 :Aah!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1463898427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the 640x480 mode is reduced to approx. 17 frames per second, and the 800x600 mode is removed. < 1463898656 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or might be included but with the frame rate reduced even more) < 1463898697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know the Symbolics 3600, from the 1980s, had a 1280x1024 color display? < 1463898767 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i lolled the new pbf. thx gaiz < 1463898779 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think 640x480 could be faster than 17 frames per second, because the number 17 would assume that vblank has the same number of scanlines and it might not have to be (only the number of clock cycles should probably be at least as much) < 1463898816 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, but now I do. What frame rate and how many colours could it display (and in what class)? < 1463898887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure, but it had an 8MHz CPU and 2.3MB RAM. < 1463898892 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By the class I mean the X visual classes, such as TrueColor, PseudoColor, DirectColor, etc) < 1463899218 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :X visual classes of course have nothing like Extra-HalfBrite or Hold-and-Modify. < 1463899293 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it used X. < 1463899362 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter; did it use one of those visual classes though, and was it XY format or Z format? < 1463899393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1463899424 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know who does know this information (and also the frame rate)? < 1463899436 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will see if Wikipedia mentions, I suppose < 1463899452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it cost $110,000. < 1463899477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today you can get a computer with more than twice as much RAM for less than half that price. < 1463899497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe you can find out from http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/symbolics/3600technicalSummary_Feb83.pdf < 1463899579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interactive display was 1150x900. < 1463900161 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463900450 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463900973 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could not find the information in there, but I could find details about the programming system, which supports macros, unbounded arrays, coroutines, exceptions, functions that return multiple values, optional parameters, keyword parameters, namespaces, and a "Flavor System" which is a kind of object-oriented system and the dependencies are not constrained to be hierarchical. < 1463901075 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have a moment? < 1463901082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A moment? < 1463901121 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to sort out some monad transformer stuff and need a good rubber duck. I just need you to pretend to read what I'm writing, because if my rubber duck is knowledgeable I find that helps more < 1463901143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad transformers moproblems < 1463901151 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to work with an operational (custom) monad that also has state and I need to figure out which one goes on top of which. < 1463901172 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the interpreter for the custom monad to be able to control the state; roll it back, etc. < 1463901276 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I put the state as the outer monad... given a starting state, it produces a list of instructions which will produce a final state < 1463901315 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the interpreter is not aware of or able to affect the state in any way... so I think it has to go on the inside? < 1463901353 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the interpreter knows that (a,s) is the state type < 1463901375 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the interpreter is on the inside, then the interpreter can't exit the state environment < 1463901455 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, I want the interpreter to be able to change the state type < 1463901506 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do that it needs to be able to execute the state, change type, and resume execution < 1463901550 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a property of the interpreter itself, not the actual computation < 1463901552 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmmm < 1463901553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the same monad at that point. Maybe you want indexed monads? < 1463901574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you come up with a simpler monad than Operational f to use to think about this? < 1463901672 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's not the same monad < 1463901735 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I do need indexed monads < 1463902149 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I should just stop using StateT < 1463902150 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1463902238 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to sleep < 1463902284 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says the monochrome 1150x900 display is 60 frames per second, as well as 16-bit stereo 50 KHz audio. < 1463902435 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty low quality audio. < 1463902466 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A higher sample rate is pretty important. < 1463902474 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. 50 kHz. < 1463902480 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason I read that as 5. < 1463902509 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plenty fine, then. Slightly weird (due to not being 48 kHz), but definitely not low quality. < 1463902527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: This was in 1983. < 1463902543 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, for some reason I missed that context. < 1463902546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything was slightly weird back then. < 1463902552 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a thing that zzo38 was designing or something. < 1463902560 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the time period that's quite respectable. < 1463902575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the computer cost $110,000. < 1463902594 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Given that it damned well better have good specs. :) < 1463902609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I found also about colours, it says it supports both 8-bit PseudoColor and 24-bit TrueColor modes, and both XY and Z formats. < 1463902701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mornington Crescent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47057&oldid=44604 5* 0376.21.76.254 5* (-21) 10 < 1463903333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg I have to fire the engines for six hours < 1463903353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn ion thrusters < 1463903369 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly my own design is much more limited: 4-plane PseudoColor XYPixmap, and 15-plane TrueColor ZPixmap. < 1463903766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe you should make your design more like the Symbolics 3600. < 1463903862 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't intend to be as complicated as that < 1463903882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe your computer should use a Mill CPU. < 1463903948 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I think I would probably do my own patent-free design < 1463905091 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's one half hour < 1463905254 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463905538 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohfettsipvibistq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463906846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463907388 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463907673 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463908688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably learn what Go is... < 1463908766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it was an art in and of itself that scholars had to know < 1463909912 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good go or the google go? < 1463911140 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463911214 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463911292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/abv4Fz7oNr0 forces me to beg the question of what the 3.5th digit of pi is < 1463911441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I expect my answer by morning. Goodnight. < 1463911469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't beg the question < 1463911478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why do you ping me about these things < 1463911559 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviosly it is (1+5)/2 = 3 < 1463911713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463913098 0 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1463913169 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463914280 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's easy, write Pi in base 5 < 1463914289 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boom, you've got half-digits < 1463914431 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1463914817 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: pi < 1463914823 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi < 1463914825 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 < 1463914866 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be something like 3.0104011014021110 < 1463914882 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'm probably doing this wrong < 1463914900 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, definitely doing it wrong < 1463914907 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No half-digits this way < 1463915007 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO wrong < 1463915079 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that can work... you have a mixed base representation that alternates between bases 2 and 5 < 1463915116 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yeah, but it wouldn't make sense to talk about half-digits with that representation < 1463915123 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1463915150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could easily be *more* wrong :P < 1463915180 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1463915213 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you really want is to start with a base that is a square number < 1463915216 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can talk about half-digits < 1463915225 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, base 16 is good < 1463915239 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the half-digits would be in base 4 < 1463915272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you glance at them in a mirror, 2 and 5 become hard to tell apart :P < 1463915407 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode has so many silly things... but no 7 segment digits... I'm disappointed. < 1463915461 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could look at base sqrt(10) < 1463915470 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:edf4:7181:b2a8:bda7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463915534 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-integer bases are icky... < 1463915559 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could alternate between 3 and 4 to keep digit values as close to powers of 10 as possible. < 1463915622 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is so useful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculator_spelling < 1463915869 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base pi is best < 1463915876 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can just write 10.0000000000000 < 1463916004 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: now define the canonical representation < 1463916014 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1463916050 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as non-integer bases go, how about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio_base < 1463916064 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phi-base has a well-defined canonicalization scheme < 1463916069 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1463916071 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it is possible for general non-integral bases < 1463916074 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1463916270 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463916342 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463916449 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463916593 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1463918264 0 :bender!~bender@59.189.183.166 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1463918273 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463918292 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1463918330 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Client Quit < 1463918552 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463918566 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RELUCTANT CHICKEN < 1463920279 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463920331 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1463920365 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:edf4:7181:b2a8:bda7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463921569 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh, Microsoft still messes up email... no references, no in-reply-to headers. SIGH. < 1463922009 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, no, I'm blaming the wrong people. < 1463922036 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused. < 1463926271 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463928200 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:edf4:7181:b2a8:bda7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463928321 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463928700 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463928794 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so I found out zzo38's computer draft specification contains mentions of the occult, and "sprites" (given the aforementioned OCCULT, probably not the computer kind)! < 1463928811 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...where can I get one of these computers? < 1463928896 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("bit6 (OCCULT) - Hide sprite if playfield pixel is non-background" - presumably "pixel" is an alias of "pixie", and it's referring to hiding the sprites from the pixies... but why?) < 1463930277 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src traverse < 1463930277 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. < 1463931076 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:edf4:7181:b2a8:bda7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463931553 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-idfjprcurfuxsctl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463931943 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463932590 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1463934779 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463935401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: “if my rubber duck is knowledgeable I find that helps more” => ah thanks, exactly. that's an excuse I use for having so many animal toys, because they're knowledgable in different areas < 1463935792 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net PART #esoteric :"Alsithyafturttararfunar" < 1463937590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47058&oldid=47045 5* 03Bakman329 5* (+15) 10/* L */ < 1463939409 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463939442 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :lolyouthinkimrea < 1463939632 0 :lolyouthinkimrea!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Client Quit < 1463939709 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463939711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463939722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463940180 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1463940208 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever thought ion engines were a good idea! < 1463940266 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have put six engines on this damn thing < 1463940385 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think that was Tsiolkovsky and Goddard, or something like that. < 1463940396 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: If you read the rest of the document you would find that is not the case. (Although yes the word is similar, maybe by coincidence) < 1463941764 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:edf4:7181:b2a8:bda7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463942153 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occult means "to cover or hide from view", and this is what it means here. < 1463942404 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can't get one of these computers yet. < 1463942998 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463943339 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463943603 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463944060 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463944820 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, occultists aren't always fans of the public eye... < 1463944882 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't get one of these computers in private yet either. < 1463944908 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1463945017 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "Never (not very useful)" is actually wrong - it's quite useful indeed for an optimized boolean flag toggle & branch.. < 1463945037 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a XOR to swap between always & never, then perform the jump < 1463945103 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so there is a use; I didn't know that. < 1463945426 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jump-to-register... if memory space is 16-bit, jump-to-register could select the target register as the "high" byte and the "other" register as the "low" byte? < 1463945498 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if CMC is useful... I guess if you have two blocks of code with different conditional settings and you want to run both, a CMC would help, but why write the code that way? < 1463945559 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the jump is to the address of the operand, and the registers do not have an address. So, I do not know what it would do, but once the circuit is designed then we can see what it would do. < 1463945625 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no need to design an actual electronic circuit - in my experience, Logisim's good for playing around with logic design, but ofc it's graphical. On the one hand the graphics make it easier to keep track, on the other you have to route about the lines. < 1463945680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point of CMC is mainly to be used conditionally (so you do not need both SEC and CLC instructions), although there may be unconditional uses as well. < 1463945757 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see. < 1463945770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've described quite a bit of the CPU now I look at it, but where you have "two bits of", you should have a bitfield "ccaaoooo" and designate which side is MSB (consistency with general numeric systems and hex/etc. says MSB first), but you should probably fill in the other instructions and list flag effects. < 1463945808 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; I haven't quite designed that part yet (but should). The other instructions and flag effects are same as 6502. < 1463945982 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you've "designed" the bitfield already more or less, you just haven't made it very explicit. < 1463946013 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "same as 6502" is great if you know the 6502, but not so good if you don't ^.^; < 1463946046 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course proper documentation would make all of these things explicit. < 1463946084 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also haven't written the assignment of the numbers to each instruction; this too probably would need the circuit to be designed (not necessarily built though).) < 1463946129 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks about it some more < 1463946147 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you LDA A? < 1463946230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so LDA's probably a 2-cycle (read opcode / copy value) instruction on the register-to-register case... < 1463946273 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, I think. < 1463946686 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STA to an immediate... < 1463946701 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that act like zeropage, or? < 1463946740 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it would overwrite the immediate < 1463946756 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like it would do on VAX, I think; but I don't really know much about VAX) < 1463946818 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this apply to all instructions that store into the addressed value? < 1463946828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that on an actual 6502, STA to an immediate does nothing.) < 1463946939 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes, although there are only two such instructions in the video processor, STA and STB. < 1463946965 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two makes it easy - prefix them with something like 111*. < 1463946991 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I thought of too. < 1463947037 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463947134 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good news, your NOP is 0x00. < 1463947148 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always Execute / Immediate / JMP. < 1463947180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did also think of that. < 1463947194 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to see you thought it through. < 1463947320 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1463947397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 being nop is handy, although 6502 and mmix takes a different route, making an all-zero instruction a trap so that an accidental jump through a stray pointer would likely be discovered quickly instead of just noping for a while < 1463947478 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think 6502 has separate register-to-register transfer instructions < 1463947605 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, 6502 does have separate register-to-register instructions, such as TAX TAY TXA TYA TSX TXS < 1463948571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does “thrull” as in the name of the M:tG creature type etimologically come from “thrall”? < 1463948681 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thrull < 1463948683 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thrall < 1463948714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thrall? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463948714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thrull? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463948848 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463948942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've worked out some timings and opcode IDs. < 1463949094 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/zzo38-op.txt < 1463950592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: . o O (thrull -> thrust bearing hull?) < 1463950663 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.158 PART #esoteric : < 1463950703 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I remember reading of a 6502 variant where all undefined instructions were BRK, and people wrote code at the BRK handler to create custom instructions < 1463950930 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"custom instructions"... which were presumably really slow? < 1463950962 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, must've improved code density greatly. < 1463951044 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's more like a function call? < 1463951073 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, but you still have to disambiguate between the different custom instructions < 1463951075 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 6502 function call takes 3 bytes of code, this would take only one. < 1463951133 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd either need 0x200 bytes for a vector table or something (1/128th of memory is a LOT, believe it or not)... or you'd need quite a few branches (potentially slow) < 1463951193 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm not entirely sure what they did < 1463951212 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they just had one "custom instruction" for something they used a lot? < 1463951286 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe there were only 16 or so custom instructions, so they could afford a vector table. < 1463951349 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the gaps in the 6502 instruction set are highly regular, so a 16 entry table would definitly work < 1463951470 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463951926 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1463951967 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: nice, that's ahead of the 6502's time, I thought that kind of thing would start only at processors with memory protection, when the cpu could no longer afford for unprivilaged processes to run instructions they don't implement properly < 1463952233 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: OK I looked at what you wrote I think it can be a good design < 1463952292 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:edf4:7181:b2a8:bda7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463952428 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also note that !RESET should probably be buffered, and only updated when the clock goes low - this is because if RESET went off just before the clock went high, then it could change state before the RESET-off had propagated < 1463952481 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK thanks < 1463952498 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as the default value of the AND'd clock during RESET is *low*, updating when clock goes low means that clock should stay low for the next cycle. < 1463953698 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rgpflqhqnohtkvjf JOIN :#esoteric < 1463953878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl join id < 1463953878 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ d -> (\ a -> a) d d) < 1463953888 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good, I didn't introduce that bug. < 1463953996 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :un perl? < 1463954049 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, un-point-free < 1463954051 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help unpf < 1463954051 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointful . Make code pointier. < 1463954062 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help pl < 1463954062 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointless . Play with pointfree code. < 1463954064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also known as "knit" hth < 1463954083 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I have code that produces \ b0 -> b0 b0 instead, now. < 1463954094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not even valid Haskell. < 1463954102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should add a spot of the type checking. < 1463954118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILL NOT < 1463954149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (\x -> x x) (\x -> f (x x)) < 1463954150 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at 1 file changed, 196 insertions(+), 97 deletions(-) just to handle alpha ... hopefully properly. < 1463954152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (f . ap id id) < 1463954152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1463954172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (\x -> f (x x)) (\x -> f (x x)) < 1463954175 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f . ap id id) (f . ap id id) < 1463954175 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1463954180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1463954186 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f . ap id id) (f . ap id id) < 1463954186 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1463954188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on @pl tdnh < 1463954199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463954200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to do? < 1463954206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it print a whole bunch of fs < 1463954215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps the shortest result < 1463954220 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... no. < 1463954223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tust < 1463954224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1463954234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, no new lambdabottery < 1463954236 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pointfree < 1463954242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointfree? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463954246 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Have you found my answer? < 1463954263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this irc channel is unfortunately too narrow to contain it < 1463954303 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn pointfree/Pointfree programming sounds better than pointless programming. < 1463954309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «pointfree» < 1463954312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...well played < 1463954318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag of #esoteric < 1463954320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag of #esoteric? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463954324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1463954332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help pl < 1463954332 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointless . Play with pointfree code. < 1463954333 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The flag of #esoteric is, of course, 6-dimensional < 1463954340 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :point-free ought to have a hyphen < 1463954363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That'd be kind of pointless < 1463954377 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fonzie < 1463954378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fonzie: not found < 1463954379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your joke is old and overdone hth < 1463954402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it's become kind of pointless < 1463954554 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1463954659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1463955331 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s :: Exp -> Exp < 1463955331 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s = join traceShow < 1463955343 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1463959380 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463959503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1463960220 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463960235 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf told me someone here knows a bunch about the 100-prisoners-and-a-lightbulb puzzle? < 1463960237 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a01:114f:86d:d200:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1463960264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did all of this happen since i left... < 1463960273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this morning) < 1463960275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463960329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rtnz: there was a good article about that < 1463960340 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rtnz: let me try to find it < 1463960360 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several, I think... do you mean the Wu paper? < 1463960410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: dunno, do you have a link? < 1463960433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of int-e but I might be wrong. < 1463960439 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/papers/100prisonersLightBulb.pdf < 1463960676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463960789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... are there any Chess-like board games featuring modal logic? < 1463960820 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; do you know how to make up such a game? < 1463961098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nope < 1463961133 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also don't know. < 1463961146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my life, I think I've been searching for something < 1463961162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always felt like there's something I'm supposed to find < 1463961167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I've lost and I must retrieve < 1463961189 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of thing do you think you are trying to find? < 1463961210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might have found it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_on_a_Really_Big_Board < 1463961220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, my browser crashes every time I try to open that page < 1463961567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE we go < 1463961891 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: "where the last equality follows after an orgy of algebra." help < 1463962084 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have mentioned the 100 prisoners puzzle, yeah... < 1463962170 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know of a solution to the variant where (1) you can't count days (2) every prisoner must have the same strategy? < 1463962237 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a solution, that I think I have found a faster version for, but I am not sure the faster one is still correct < 1463962456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm interested, but not right now ... too tired from lambdabot hacking. < 1463962492 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've mostly worked with the timed version though, so this may be tricky. < 1463962720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze < 1463962735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463962876 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh and of course I broke lambdabot on ghc 7.8 :/ < 1463962906 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463962937 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not in scope: ‘<$>’" ... AMP! < 1463962980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap < 1463962981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463963037 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. Just had an Out-Of-Body experience < 1463963045 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1463963062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets drawn into ghc trac again, despite having no ghc on his computer < 1463963098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t elem < 1463963099 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq a, Foldable t) => a -> t a -> Bool < 1463963102 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that... < 1463963114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: PROBLEM? < 1463963122 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to configure vim so that the delete key does not save it in the buffer (but d and x keys do)? < 1463963125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length (1,2) < 1463963126 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1463963133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ghc 7.8.4 wants Set.member instead. < 1463963168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> F.elem 1 M.empty < 1463963170 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1463963181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t F.elem < 1463963182 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq a, Foldable t) => a -> t a -> Bool < 1463963191 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess lambdabot isn't using that < 1463963213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: doesn't import Foldable (elem) help? < 1463963222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo errors) < 1463963225 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then I have to hide the list one ... not going there. < 1463963243 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you mean to day that the delete key does not save what it deletes to the "" register (that's the register the p command pastes from by default)? If so, map that key to "_x < 1463963259 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: see :he "" < 1463963266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ouch < 1463963339 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK yes I think that could work (I do intend that regardless of normal mode, visual mode, and insertion mode) < 1463963348 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? continuous < 1463963351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? contiguous < 1463963352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :contiguous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963374 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a01:114f:86d:d200:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463963390 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: freenode's #vim channel is good so if you can't get help here you can always ask there < 1463963393 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, at least my work on the travis setup is paying off... building 3 1/2 minutes :) < 1463963424 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: OK thanks < 1463963456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: alas, the 3-release property doesn't apply to avoiding stupid import tricks. (if it's still alive at all. i'm still stuck back in March.) < 1463963482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*policy < 1463963484 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What is that? I have seen files called "travis" in some source code repositories but is that related? < 1463963493 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1463963499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fingers seem to think only the fist and last letters count. < 1463963499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://travis-ci.org/ < 1463963507 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas can't spell < 1463963508 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas can't spell? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saw that one and refued to fix it. < 1463963517 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a01:114f:86d:d200:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1463963518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that one oo < 1463963525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going well. < 1463963601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/compare/b1c2abdf3f06...8389c69f3b27 ... I even used liftM! < 1463963686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1463963751 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn b_jonas can't spell/b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, mysterious, Odyssey, myopia, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, existence, heard, appropriate; and confuses these sets of words: then, than; drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute, delate; contiguous, continuous. < 1463963753 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «b_jonas can't spell» < 1463963758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas can't spell < 1463963760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas can't spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, mysterious, Odyssey, myopia, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, existence, heard, appropriate; and confuses these sets of words: then, than; drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute, delate; contiguous, continuous. < 1463963824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym itymology hth < 1463963842 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm disappointed that there's no typo in that list, too. < 1463963862 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there isn't? I thought there'd be one even if I didn't try to put one in < 1463963882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? amortize < 1463963884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amortize? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963887 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the three nouns trace vs track vs trail, of which the difference nobody managed to properly explain to me. I asked a few times, but got contradictory explanations. < 1463963905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && grep amorti * < 1463963915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: le: Is a directory \ grep: ¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: ¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ amortized:An amortized word is a word that oerjan can never remember. \ oerjan:Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. H < 1463963925 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && grep --no-messages amorti * < 1463963926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amortized:An amortized word is a word that oerjan can never remember. \ oerjan:Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is B < 1463963934 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a01:114f:86d:d200:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463963938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: amortized < 1463963953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1463963967 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -l mortif wisdom/* < 1463963970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/reflection < 1463963974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trace < 1463963975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trace? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use rgrep, yo < 1463963976 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? track < 1463963977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :track? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963978 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trail < 1463963979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trail? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463963994 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs grepp -l mortif < 1463963996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs: Warning: a NUL character occurred in the input. It cannot be passed through in the argument list. Did you mean to use the --null option? \ xargs: grepp: No such file or directory < 1463964001 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grepp -l mortif < 1463964003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs: grepp: No such file or directory < 1463964010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too stupid for this. < 1463964014 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -l mortif < 1463964016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463964018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep mortif wisdom < 1463964025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1463964027 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said. < 1463964055 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze/Post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze is the genre of the Autobanh album "Nagelbett" according to http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Yo-Ho%2c-Yo-Ho%2c-A-Pirates-Life-for-Lee . < 1463964059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze» < 1463964169 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast s/banh/bahn/ < 1463964191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze//Post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze is the genre of the Autobahn album "Nagelbett" according to http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Yo-Ho%2c-Yo-Ho%2c-A-Pirates-Life-for-Lee . < 1463964631 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463964738 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1463965036 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? iron general < 1463965038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iron general? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463965069 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn iron general/The Iron General is Siona Patricia pa-Lehyll pa-Drusia Ishgur-Sal, Lady of Tyren, sometime general in His Majesty's army, dame of the Empire, and senator of Tuqnil, in http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2003-12-04.0383.html < 1463965072 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «iron general» < 1463965122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? john < 1463965122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: madore is writing fantasy fiction? < 1463965123 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :john? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463965155 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably more sci-fi. http://www.madore.org/~david/lit/god.html definitely counts as sci-fi to me. < 1463965180 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember years ago we found some erotic gay elf lotr fanfic he wrote < 1463965189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was in french so it looked a lot more classy than that < 1463965200 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn John is not Hziulquoigmnzhah of Cykranosh, the dread spawn of Cxaxukluth, according to http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4072 < 1463965204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'john': John is not Hziulquoigmnzhah of Cykranosh, the dread spawn of Cxaxukluth, according to http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4072 < 1463965307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: damn guessed wrong. < 1463965351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you seem to be adding a lot of spurious wisdom entries < 1463965355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't figure out why < 1463965410 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463965415 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I probably am. what wisdom entry do you not count as spurious, or what is your idea about the real goal HackEgo wisdom should serve? < 1463965426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unclear < 1463965431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why are you adding these < 1463965441 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they amuse me, usually < 1463965456 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them probably have no purpose, but maybe a few will inspire other people < 1463965466 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? filk < 1463965468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :filk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463965506 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fisting with milk < 1463965514 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously < 1463965555 0 :clinth!~clint@unaffiliated/clinth JOIN :#esoteric < 1463966515 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: none are spurious. each is 100% accurate. All are superfluous, just like everything in the wisdomdb < 1463966536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the word i meant tdh < 1463966550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's wisdom entries are great, though < 1463966565 0 :clinth!~clint@unaffiliated/clinth PART #esoteric : < 1463966614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ordinary milk or filmjölk? < 1463966643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm am i confusing you with a swede again < 1463966655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats FireFly for being confusable -----### < 1463966670 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am? < 1463966681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1463966717 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1463966748 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1463966761 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is filmjölk? < 1463966779 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like milk except thicker < 1463966785 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soured milk? < 1463966794 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk with extra cream? < 1463966805 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soured milk, yeah < 1463966808 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1463966812 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1463966822 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lactic acid bacteria then < 1463966826 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463966828 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or well, fermented milk < 1463967050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1463967077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when people attribute their lack of ability to use advanced software features to "it's glitchy" < 1463967150 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What example? < 1463967447 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463967610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoily. < 1463967656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks we may be somewhat out of sync. the last one was 4 days ago. < 1463967750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: conclusion: the ability to use advanced software depends on being able to ignore glitches. < 1463967770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is in line with my experience hth < 1463967811 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thellørjan. < 1463967848 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Thellørjanium... even more awesome than adamantium and that other Marvel or DC stuff.. ) < 1463968575 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :shydraz < 1463968598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shydraz: feeling supersymmetric today? < 1463968641 0 :shydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, shit, I need to look up this joke < 1463968656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1463968752 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellodraz. < 1463968762 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is supersymmetry? < 1463968763 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, ten days ago. on that occasion it was in favour of certain amendments which had just crossed a military fnord into iran? obviously not! that would be the last time a pharmacist shot another pharmacist to control the safety and effectiveness of the project, to ensure observance of the democratic clause is very directly related to the reduction of prices, especially in regions which are situated just below th < 1463968803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems iran is developing it. we're probably doomed. < 1463968826 0 :shydraz!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1463968838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it involves pharmacy rather than nuclear physics. < 1463968856 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since I didn't understand the wikipedia page - something to do with quantum mechanics? -, I'll just revert to my non-quantum-mechanical nick. < 1463968902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: i'm afraid that to become supersymmetric, you must already have been quantum mechanical to start with. < 1463968911 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1463968922 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so am I dead or am or alive? < 1463968932 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: you are FM hth < 1463968934 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pull out all the stops. also the sbottoms. < 1463968953 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *THWACKS* oerjan. 0.9 shachafs. < 1463968963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey i'm just trying to give hints here < 1463968989 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a pun. < 1463968995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1463969003 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good one. you scored high. < 1463969007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1463969024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1463969071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: i don't know, could you come in for observation? < 1463969082 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one I understood < 1463969090 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: the fizikusinduló (a party song the physicist students here use as their anthem) asks whether they're dead or alive.eeee < 1463969104 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I would, but I collapsed on the street. < 1463969117 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh admn is my keyboard < 1463969117 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463969135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: well you still sound coherent. < 1463969175 0 :evalj!~jeval@catv-89-133-135-148.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463969266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn admn is the curse of people with cdop. < 1463969272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'admn': admn is the curse of people with cdop. < 1463969313 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admn? cdop? Abyssal Decoherent Malady of the Nerves? Chronic Disposition of Pneumonia? < 1463969394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slightly impressed that google translate guessed what language "indul" was < 1463969411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cdop < 1463969413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1463969419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm we don't have that yet? < 1463969446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn CDOP is OCPD, except with the letters in the *proper* order. < 1463969449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cdop': CDOP is OCPD, except with the letters in the *proper* order. < 1463969480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1463969573 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1463969741 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1463969761 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a good sunday? < 1463969905 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiles were shuffled! < 1463969911 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you sunday well? < 1463970034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://youtu.be/abv4Fz7oNr0 forces me to beg the question of what the 3.5th digit of pi is <-- hm i can see one obvious interpretation < 1463970058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely, the 3rd digit of pi*sqrt(10) < 1463970070 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.5z8.info/-OPEN-WEBCAM---START-RECORD--_q3f8oq_whitepower < 1463970087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or maybe not 3rd. < 1463970097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2nd after the period. < 1463970106 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. uhm... not sure I want to click on a white power link hth < 1463970107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi < 1463970108 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 < 1463970112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi*sqrt(10) < 1463970114 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.934588265796101 < 1463970119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, 3. < 1463970123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cliiiiiiiiiiickiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit < 1463970131 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohth < 1463970143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does someone need a good kicking < 1463970156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's very funny < 1463970158 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I clicked. HA HA HA :D < 1463970161 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is funny. < 1463970162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent < 1463970241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys make it very hard not to shoot the puppy < 1463970432 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463970763 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CYCLOPEAN CHICKEN < 1463971349 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1463971627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463971633 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp pi - pi < 1463971635 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 19.999099979189474 < 1463971654 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shouldn't that be 20?" < 1463971800 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (9**2 + 19**2/22)**(1/4) - pi < 1463971802 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1.007146810394488e-9 < 1463972081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463972098 0 :MDude!?@? NICK :MDream < 1463972302 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463972480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463973740 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 22 * pi ^ 4 < 1463973742 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2143.0000027480532 < 1463973749 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^ < 1463973771 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 88 * log 89 < 1463973773 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 395.0000005364283 < 1463974696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463974958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1463976302 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, http://jobs.sportsauthority.com/ seems like a really bad idea for a new job < 1463976688 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sin (2017 * 2 ^ 0.2) < 1463976689 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Integral b0) arising from a use of ‘^’ < 1463976690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Floating a) < 1463976690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: Floating a => a < 1463976703 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sin (2017 * 2.0 ** 0.2) < 1463976705 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1.0 < 1463976711 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, FreeFull: ^ < 1463976733 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sounds a good prank for the next year) < 1463976956 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2.0 ** 0.2 < 1463976957 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.148698354997035 < 1463976977 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2017 * 2.0 ** 0.2 < 1463976979 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2316.92458202902 < 1463976985 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2017 * 2.0 ** 0.2) / pi < 1463976986 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 737.5000000020841 < 1463977001 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Ok < 1463977064 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: probably the most succinct almost integer in terms of error per term & digit ratio < 1463977071 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most succinct known* < 1463977118 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 1.01 < 1463977129 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^(pi sqrt(163)) is also succinct, but its large quantity makes it a bit strange < 1463977179 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: too obvious? < 1463977190 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is a bit subjective < 1463977211 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try to define the complexity of expression with some kind of normalized string (RIES does this, FYI) < 1463977223 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any such scheme would be subjective < 1463977225 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1463977674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463978061 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463979767 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463979951 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1463980263 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463980590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/when-a-computer-scammer-tries-to-open-my-windows-porn-saves-the-day-20140201-31u1c.html 8=D < 1463980591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is a smiley face, you sick bastard) < 1463981721 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a good article < 1463981742 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1463982484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463983337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463985372 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463985452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Your smiley face might need some plastic surgery. Or maybe just some plastic. < 1463985633 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463985939 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-idfjprcurfuxsctl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1463986946 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1463989065 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463989130 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... What would happen if you withdrew negative dollars? < 1463989323 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463989883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That's part of Infocom's game, _Bureaucracy_. < 1463990785 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1463991903 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Xlib have any functions to convert a picture without opening a display connection? < 1463992355 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose XGetPixel and XPutPixel could be used to do it very slowly) < 1463992438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't those require a display connection? < 1463992521 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those functions don't. XInitImage, XSubImage, XAddPixel, and XDestroyImage also don't. < 1463992627 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(XCreateImage requires a display connection, although another way to create a XImage is to fill in the structure yourself and then call XInitImage.) < 1463993232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name of the idea of a chip which, on your early death, simulates a perfect happy lifetime? < 1463993339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: go easy on your EBEs < 1463993351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: EBEs? < 1463993355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1463993361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm sorry < 1463993365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What's EBE? < 1463993383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google go easy on your EBEs < 1463993383 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spF6A2QK31s < 1463993384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an episode of the X-Files called E.B.E < 1463993505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK, but that's not the concept of that chip < 1463993523 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1463993629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADNUUUUUUUU < 1463993851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would happen if that chip malfunctioned? < 1463994184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4CRCJUmWsM&index=2&list=PLV9ZS-zCs2ZS7Ut3LzOZ4NG7oZwn8BY8i is.......... interesting < 1463994565 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-205-120.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463995586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably trace a lot of this channel to Look Around You if you try. < 1463995602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, porthelleaus. < 1463996255 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1463996416 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a copy of the instructions on the envelope of a IBM flowchart template? < 1463996501 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1463997435 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-205-120.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1463997973 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1463998318 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, who's the guest artist of today's Dilbert? < 1463998364 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, "jake tapper" is probably the name of the artist < 1463998390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1463998874 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tiltbrush.com coooooooool < 1463999063 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-254-55-24.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1463999729 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no mroman < 1463999743 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-254-55-24.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464002252 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464002690 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-254-55-24.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464003316 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464003329 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464003766 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-254-55-24.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464005079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464006834 0 :alandipert!~alandiper@cpe-45-37-184-11.nc.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464007096 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464008678 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-252.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464008961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464009214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464010036 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464011279 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464011618 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464012190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464012229 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464012252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :transformer//A transformer is one who used to trans, but no longer does. < 1464012309 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464012316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren//oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a. < 1464012321 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464012325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lifeforce \ GG \ Enchantment \ {G}{G}: Counter target black spell. \ A-U, B-U, U-U, RV-U, 4E-U, 5E-U, ME4-R < 1464012373 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww, that's a strange card < 1464012411 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are non-blue counters? < 1464012452 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sure, there's a very few white ones < 1464012473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and you've probably heared of < 1464012479 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Red Elemental Blast < 1464012481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red Elemental Blast \ R \ Instant \ Choose one -- \ · Counter target blue spell. \ · Destroy target blue permanent. \ A-C, B-C, U-C, RV-C, 4E-C, ME4-U < 1464012692 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's Dawn Charm and Rebuff the Wicked and Vigilant Martyr which are specific against some spells, then there's a recent strange example of Frontline Medic, Mana Tithe which is a colorshifted card from planar chaos, < 1464012710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the best example is Lapse of Certainty which is a general counterspell in white. < 1464012826 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Lapse of Certainty < 1464012829 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lapse of Certainty \ 2W \ Instant \ Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it on top of its owner's library instead of into that player's graveyard. \ CON-C < 1464012836 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Excommunicate < 1464012839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excommunicate \ 2W \ Sorcery \ Put target creature on top of its owner's library. \ ALA-C, M10-C, M11-C < 1464012888 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464012918 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders at the wrongness of those cards < 1464013012 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if it's any comfort to you, I don't think you'll see color hosers like Lifeforce or Red Elemental Blast in the future for a while < 1464013085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The white counterspells are a bit strange, because if white wants to protect their permanents from spells, he should just give them protection, which white could traditionally do cheaply, though it's getting rare in recent sets. < 1464013147 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Deathgrip < 1464013149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deathgrip \ BB \ Enchantment \ {B}{B}: Counter target green spell. \ A-U, B-U, U-U, RV-U, 4E-U, 5E-U, ME4-R < 1464013164 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ I think that's paired with Lifeforce < 1464013172 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Dash Hopes < 1464013174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dash Hopes \ BB \ Instant \ When you cast Dash Hopes, any player may pay 5 life. If a player does, counter Dash Hopes. \ Counter target spell. \ PLC-C < 1464013233 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464013239 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Stromgald Cabal < 1464013241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stromgald Cabal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464013265 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464013267 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Withering Boom < 1464013269 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Withering Boo < 1464013270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Withering Boom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464013271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Withering Boo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464013276 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Withering Boon < 1464013278 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Withering Boob < 1464013278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Withering Boon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464013280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Withering Boob? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464013287 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name stromgald < 1464013288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stromgald Cabal \ 1BB \ Creature -- Human Knight \ 2/2 \ {T}, Pay 1 life: Counter target white spell. \ IA-R, 5E-R, 6E-R, ME2-R \ \ Stromgald Crusader \ BB \ Creature -- Zombie Knight \ 2/1 \ Protection from white \ {B}: Stromgald Crusader gains flying until end of turn. \ {B}{B}: Stromgald Crusader gets +1/+0 until end of turn. \ CSP-U \ \ Strom < 1464013292 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name withering boo < 1464013293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Withering Boon \ 1B \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Withering Boon, pay 3 life. \ Counter target creature spell. \ MI-U < 1464013335 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's another Red Elemental Blast too: < 1464013341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Burnout < 1464013342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burnout \ 1R \ Instant \ Counter target instant spell if it's blue. \ Draw a card at the beginning of the next turn's upkeep. \ AI-U, ME2-U < 1464013435 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Mages' Contest < 1464013437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mages' Contest \ 1RR \ Instant \ You and target spell's controller bid life. You start the bidding with a bid of 1. In turn order, each player may top the high bid. The bidding ends if the high bid stands. The high bidder loses life equal to the high bid. If you win the bidding, counter that spell. \ IN-R < 1464013455 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Molten Influence < 1464013457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Molten Influence \ 1R \ Instant \ Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless its controller has Molten Influence deal 4 damage to him or her. \ OD-R < 1464013464 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that one is like Dash Hopes but even worse < 1464013501 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Pyroblast < 1464013503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pyroblast \ R \ Instant \ Choose one -- \ · Counter target spell if it's blue. \ · Destroy target permanent if it's blue. \ IA-C, 5E-U, MED-C < 1464013512 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ wait, did they put a red elemental blast in every early set? < 1464013726 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1464014186 0 :primo!~primo@49.49.243.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464014223 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think Pyroblast was a rules-errata version of REB < 1464014253 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea being that you can pyroblast something that isn't blue, and recolor it, even in an old version of the rules where instants worked weirdly < 1464014285 0 :primo!~primo@49.49.243.31 PART #esoteric : < 1464014431 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf I don't think the malware was literally written in 90; it's the same spirit, but I think it used a different mechanism to recognise what and where to patch < 1464014431 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464014436 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464015005 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464015360 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman < 1464015363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. < 1464015567 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464015960 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I understand how a function could be worse at hashing password than the identity function < 1464015971 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I feel that it's dubious that it could be called a password hashing function, in such a case < 1464015977 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fail to see how a hash could be worse than identity. < 1464016025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could waste a lot of space in the result, make the original password still reasonably recoverable, /and/ have collisions < 1464016037 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. s/aeiou/?????/g < 1464016041 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1464016044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/[aeiou]/?????/g < 1464016058 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say that'd be worse than the identity function at password hashing in basically every way < 1464016077 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel tainted. I'ma gonna wash some dishes to cleanse myself. < 1464016088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Did Humanity Descend From Aliens? < 1464016089 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a new one < 1464016093 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not opening the message though < 1464016158 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `sedtopic s/international/alien/ ) < 1464016574 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464017039 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-232.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464017292 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464017358 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 TOPIC #esoteric :The alien hub of solidity matrices | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time, stevia | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464018718 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464018797 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464019148 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464020013 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464020045 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464020624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love stevia! < 1464020654 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't taste much like sugar, but I like it in its own right < 1464020695 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464020777 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: do you like stevia? < 1464020791 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unknown what "stevia" is < 1464020798 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stevia < 1464020801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stevia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464020807 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion. it does not exist. < 1464020850 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a chemical that is used as a sweetener < 1464020904 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I didn't know about it, I wouldn't know of any interactions. < 1464020905 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is used in pepsi next < 1464020993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't believe I've had any interactions with , either. < 1464021040 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sodas do you like? < 1464021065 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why is this information of relevance? < 1464021113 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...information limit cut-out has triggered, you have reached your monthly limit on information. < 1464021130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well boily just put stevia on the list of ingredients for the alien hub of solidity matrices < 1464021154 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't have any known dislike of stevia. < 1464021210 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how did you do that? < 1464021223 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464021232 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464021236 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :italics? < 1464021240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-I:Italic. < 1464021243 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. I didn't put stevia hth < 1464021248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-U:Underline. < 1464021252 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1464021253 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-B:Bold. < 1464021259 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1464021285 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :‰test < 1464021295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not working for me < 1464021296 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's useful for making your text sloped. Like this. Like that text feature that can be overused. A lot! < 1464021304 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, you somehow managed to write 0x89 < 1464021307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I congratulate you < 1464021320 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl i gives me a tab < 1464021340 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl shift i gives me a 0x89 < 1464021363 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm reading the letters correctly, you want 0x10. (Not 0x0A) < 1464021388 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trouble is, I can't copy it to you since it would be invisible. < 1464021477 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 0x10 < 1464021486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0010 \ UTF-8: 10 UTF-16BE: 0010 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1464021501 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1464021507 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently I got the wrong letter < 1464021529 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode  < 1464021533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+001D \ UTF-8: 1d UTF-16BE: 001d Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: B (Paragraph Separator) < 1464021536 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464021545 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's 0x1D... < 1464021615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :italics? < 1464021624 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1464021626 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :italics < 1464021633 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY! it's control ] < 1464021650 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4colors! < 1464021654 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you're using a terminal-based chat client < 1464021674 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :over two tmuxes and sshes, no less < 1464021688 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*two*? < 1464021704 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw in some mosh too < 1464021706 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464021727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I ssh into my home server, run tmux, ssh over to my website, run tmux, run irssi! < 1464021804 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :such lag < 1464021817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the terminal itself is mintty on cygwin < 1464021832 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmuxception < 1464021974 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frankly mintty is better than the terminal I use on linux < 1464021996 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1464022061 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets out of my way < 1464022091 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer terminals that are in my way... it's kind of hard to reach if it's out of my way < 1464022173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is to say , it runs wihtout a menu bar, and has very few keyboard shortcuts. < 1464022251 0 :MDream!?@? NICK :MDude < 1464022392 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it lets me turn off font blurring < 1464022393 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :‰ < 1464022432 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"font blurring" is the correct term for anti-aliasing, I presume? < 1464022442 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1464022448 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't we all use pixel fonts < 1464022484 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :€‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹‹ŒŽ‘’“”•–—˜™š›œžŸ < 1464022495 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily? < 1464022505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your UTF-8 impl. is broken < 1464022527 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not broken :D < 1464022550 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that too! “„†‡ˆŠ‹Œ < 1464022583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :control shift gives you the upper bytes < 1464022618 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :‚ˆŒ < 1464022636 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what meaning are these supposed to have again? < 1464022647 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Ctrl-Shift-U then typing the codepoint in hex work for you guys? < 1464022668 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, yes. < 1464022679 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :䥗 < 1464022684 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ what is that? < 1464022694 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Wꙮrship the multiꙮcular ꙮ! < 1464022695 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, the basis of sex in all matters covered by this directive also protect mr fatuzzo' s explanations about the long internal process involved in this area. on the eve of the european people do not leave their homes nor to work are preventing us from considering a new form of cooperation is the large-scale violation of intellectual property and investments. trade talks have already been me < 1464022702 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: a random kanji hth < 1464022706 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :䥗 < 1464022724 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :•ffef not working < 1464022780 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing this is the emoji for "injection needle": ሰ < 1464022963 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"intellectual property" aka "we want more money" < 1464023025 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ϯ < 1464023061 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a random character or a really fancy way of doing "^"? < 1464023082 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, hold down alt, then type numpad + followed by the hex code of the unicode char < 1464023107 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then release alt < 1464023139 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. typing in "cat" with 7 for "t" gives me '§'. < 1464023152 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode § < 1464023158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00A7 SECTION SIGN \ UTF-8: c2 a7 UTF-16BE: 00a7 Decimal: § \ § \ Category: Po (Punctuation, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1464023159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಧ < 1464023177 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uca7 < 1464023185 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1464023194 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd, it ignored the "c"? < 1464023209 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :§ < 1464023219 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :appears so < 1464023219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, *don't* hold shift-ctrl during the actual typing of hex < 1464023230 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike on windows < 1464023247 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ಧ < 1464023251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0CA7 KANNADA LETTER DHA \ UTF-8: e0 b2 a7 UTF-16BE: 0ca7 Decimal: ಧ \ ಧ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1464023254 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. the windows method requires flexible hands < 1464023307 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they had to address the market for three-handed aliens. < 1464023312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so you typed control-shift-c? < 1464023333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that copy on linux? < 1464023346 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Ctrl-Shift-U Ctrl-Shift-C Ctrl-Shift-A Ctrl-Shift-7 == uca7... and I'm not using a terminal. < 1464023362 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently it ignored the "c". < 1464023418 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :d06 is ആ < 1464023470 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently it didn't like me trying to enter in U+FFFFFFFF < 1464023484 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gave nothing. < 1464023528 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently this is fine. 󿿿 < 1464023544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 󿿿 < 1464023547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FFFFF - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f3 bf bf bf UTF-16BE: dbbfdfff Decimal: 󿿿 \ 󿿿 (󿿿) \ Uppercase: U+FFFFF \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1464023588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the maximum unicode character is 10ffff i think < 1464023621 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 􏿿 < 1464023624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+10FFFF - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f4 8f bf bf UTF-16BE: dbffdfff Decimal: 􏿿 \ 􏿿 (􏿿) \ Uppercase: U+10FFFF \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1464023673 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🿿 < 1464023676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1FFFF - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9f bf bf UTF-16BE: d83fdfff Decimal: 🿿 \ 🿿 (🿿) \ Uppercase: U+1FFFF \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1464023693 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it won't do 11ffff < 1464024086 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I can type ㍿ < 1464024780 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SCROLL CHICKEN < 1464025351 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeeze we are such nerds < 1464025414 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :poster writes a whimsical example of what you shouldn't do, and then we start to bikeshed the details of the whimsical example in a comment thread < 1464025551 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464025588 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464025599 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38! < 1464025607 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or however boily does those) < 1464025771 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that's true. < 1464025803 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I miss a message or something? < 1464025899 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the guy in http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3225 someone we'd seen before? < 1464026024 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall any character like that... < 1464026128 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminder: "uneventful" == "events are about to happen" < 1464026423 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: SQUARE CORPORATION eh, so Square has their own codepoint < 1464027009 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haiclxbljzyymeky JOIN :#esoteric < 1464027076 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464027566 0 :testTux!~aze@163.5.110.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464027597 0 :testTux!~aze@163.5.110.38 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464027756 0 :testTux!~ze@163.5.110.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464028029 0 :testTux!~ze@163.5.110.38 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464028358 0 :Galvatron!~chrome@24-247-27-3.static.bycy.mi.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464028463 0 :Galvatron!~chrome@24-247-27-3.static.bycy.mi.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464029104 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1464029145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What is this? < 1464029206 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found the most useful website in the history of useful websites < 1464029210 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.animefillerlist.com < 1464029211 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in general < 1464029362 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ok < 1464030192 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1464030219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: congratulations on the covariance < 1464030295 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: but... but I liked the filler... < 1464030300 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks! < 1464030305 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite proud of it < 1464030307 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: where < 1464030333 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm rewatching bleach and i'm after the first arc and i'm so glad i can skip the bount arc < 1464030351 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: IDK. I'm just saying that to see what possible response I get. < 1464030435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what if i caused a book to be delivered to you so you don't have to read dubious online versions of a short story < 1464030476 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, I'd probably read it, but I could also just set aside time to read the online one. How long of a read is it? < 1464030513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the good online versions have disappeared so now there are only terrible ones. < 1464030524 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how is "filler" classed? An episode may have no bearing on the "main" plot, but time still goes on, and at the theoretical end of the "main plot", it will have had no bearing on that fact. Importance is relative. < 1464030527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway is this story even worth all the trouble I put into it? Probably not. < 1464030551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ibooksonline.com/88/Text/liking.html < 1464030576 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are on occasion differences between anime & manga continuities, and "filler" based on things not in the manga may actually be of more importance than it seems. < 1464030808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: But the other stories in that book are good too. < 1464030827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: So maybe you should read the whole book anyway. < 1464031140 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: can you come up with an example? < 1464031251 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah okay < 1464031256 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long is the whole book? < 1464031343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :281 pages? < 1464031349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's all short stories. < 1464031513 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464031519 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1464031519 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 231800Z VRB04KT 30SM FEW240 25/03 A2995 RMK CI1 SLP143 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1464031531 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a beautiful day. it's summer at last! < 1464031600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where in VA copumpkin is. < 1464031603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORF < 1464031603 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORF 231816Z AUTO 03012KT 10SM SCT016 BKN022 OVC034 17/13 A2991 RMK AO2 T01670128 TSNO < 1464031627 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hah, gimme an amazon link and I'll throw it into my next ordr < 1464031651 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google stories of your life amazon < 1464031653 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Stories-Your-Life-Others-Chiang/dp/1931520720 < 1464031653 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Amazon.com: Stories of Your Life and Others (9781931520720): Ted Chiang: Books < 1464031655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1464031686 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, not released yet < 1464031688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464031691 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were way ahead of your time < 1464031695 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Stories-Your-Life-Others-Chiang/dp/1101972122?ie=UTF8&qid=&ref_=tmm_pap_swatch_0&sr= < 1464031725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess that's the paperback. < 1464031736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the other one is also a paperback. < 1464031739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a new edition? < 1464031753 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it wasn't letting me buy the other one you linked to < 1464031753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This book is from 2002 or something. < 1464031840 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464031930 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:9c17:4b8e:14d1:98dd JOIN :#esoteric < 1464031942 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 17° in Norfolk? it's 1 000 km south from here! < 1464031976 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1464031977 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 231820Z 29009KT 9999 FEW017 BKN025 08/05 Q1018 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 29014KT < 1464032003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Anyway my link is already available. < 1464032004 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So a megametre then? < 1464032015 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only second hand! < 1464032019 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj. nothing else. < 1464032033 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464032046 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could just get that < 1464032066 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait another couple of weeks for the new edition < 1464032072 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :probabilistically I won't be reading it before then anyway < 1464032082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sptm < 1464032095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copumpkin < 1464032124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1464032135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh, that's out of date < 1464032627 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464032655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: can you prove you weren't born in the united states though < 1464032668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise we're voting for you < 1464032697 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and if you prove you're from England, then I'm tempted to vote for you in the next GE... < 1464032717 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd be better than the current bunch of clowns and fools < 1464032728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1464032742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Elections are conducted by General Electric < 1464032745 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464032751 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464032756 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1464032757 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope, sorry < 1464032758 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464032764 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you take me for an idiot? < 1464032768 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm from BFVille Alambama < 1464032810 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, i take you as having a bad sense of sarcasm < 1464032819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: did we ever talk about chu spaces hth < 1464032835 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I assumed it was sarcastic before people started agreeing < 1464033124 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's "BFVille"? < 1464033143 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bfville < 1464033148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfville? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464033172 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464033194 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, wisdom doesn't know about it... so it probably doesn't exist. (The Quantum Rule Of Wisdom says that anything that does exist retrospectively has a wisdom entry.) < 1464033205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, < 1464033207 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? carrots < 1464033213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :carrots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464033219 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carrots do not exist. < 1464033284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be more precise, they stopped existing when a bunch of advertisers bought the last ones to take pictures to sell fake "carrot-like" food. < 1464033285 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Chad is the guy who worked at the electronics store and declined to sell a microphone to a little girl < 1464033493 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3132 < 1464033520 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ah, thanks! < 1464033544 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or did a QC update appear in between a few hours ago and now < 1464033554 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464033610 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no wait, that can't work < 1464033641 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Chad in #3132 has brown eyes, and the guy in http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3225 has blue eyes. that's unlikely to have changed in the art upgrade < 1464033661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I don't normally look at eye color, but in this case I have to < 1464033684 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: Actor died, they replaced him, different eye colour. Don't question it. < 1464033699 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is quite obviously wrong.) < 1464033720 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: not likely. unlike me, most people do care about eye color, so they'd use contact lenses or hire a different actor or post-process his eyes with computer. < 1464033831 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea: Aha! Chad is a hallucination, and thus not consistent! < 1464033856 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, beard < 1464033888 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallucination. Not consistent. < 1464033888 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not much, but Chad had facial hair. < 1464033906 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't believe in you. < 1464033922 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet I'm still here! Isn't continuity amazing? < 1464033941 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also inertia. < 1464033955 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1464033958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1464033971 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to admit that inertia is kind of cool. < 1464033999 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, where would all of those "ship floating dramatically through space" shots be without it? < 1464034021 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or planets, or the Sun. < 1464034038 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where would they be? Who knows... < 1464034048 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd be very stuck! < 1464034058 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or jumping around wildly. < 1464034099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Anything on the prisoner puzzle? < 1464034128 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. The particulates that would otherwise bounce them around would probably have vacated the area long ago. < 1464034133 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just getting away from work. < 1464034156 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pretends to be a labyrinth guard between int-e and int-e's domicile < 1464034260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to put up some more substantial obstacle than a few pixels on my screen if you want to have any significant effect. < 1464034356 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: If I am pretending to be a labyrinth guard, of one of the 3 varieties in which one always tells the truth, one always lies, and the last one flips a coin and bases their answer on that, and I tell you the door into your house is actually a portal into a land full of deadly lions... what would you do? < 1464034457 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, if gamemanj is pretending to be a labyrinth guard, of one of the 3 varieties in which one always tells the truth, one always lies, and the last one flips a coin and bases their answer on that, and I tell you the door into your house is actually a portal into a land full of deadly lions... what would you do? < 1464034458 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i should like to say to our american partners a ceiling on compensation payments paid to workers. nevertheless, the committee on constitutional affairs has taken on huge proportions and catch the public imagination. i think it is truly deplorable that this should happen, that mr fava and mrs sanders-ten holte, first of all say that things have changed in afghanistan, they were able to arrive on time. < 1464034506 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up pretending to be a labyrinth guard... < 1464034515 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION instead pretends to be a hyacinth. (What's a hyacinth? I don't know.) < 1464034536 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hyacinth < 1464034541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyacinth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464034583 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 187 < 1464034586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :187.00°F = 86.11°C < 1464034600 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: a kind of flower hth < 1464034600 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 100 < 1464034601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100.00°F = 37.78°C < 1464034643 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In other news, they can't decide how hot a degree is...) < 1464034663 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464034666 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jumps in a flowerpot < 1464034698 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464034881 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464035053 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464035119 0 :mind4est!~mind4est@162.216.46.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464035138 0 :mind4est!~mind4est@162.216.46.124 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1464035402 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464035502 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464035926 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464036199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Are you a pot of petunias? I've read that those can turn into sperm whales. < 1464036214 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe vice versa, it's been a while. < 1464036235 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no - I'm a pot containing hyacinth.) < 1464036247 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad, I know nothing about those. < 1464036282 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otoh that may improve your expected life span in the vicinity of Arthur. < 1464036285 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*added to TODO : hitchhike on the back of a large whale.) < 1464036370 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...interrupted task TODO:2016...! : busy doing task OFF... interrupted task OFF... busy doing task ZZO38CPU... interrupted task ZZO38CPU... busy doing task UNK283... interrupted task UNK283... busy doing TODO:2016...) < 1464036374 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears I'm not remembering things correctly. < 1464036385 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at this rate I'm going to give up trying to keep track of my TODOs) < 1464036406 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sperm whale was related to, but not the same entity as, the pot of petunias. < 1464036435 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did they happen to have a previous form in the shape of a missile and another missile respectively?) < 1464036451 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"Then what's happened to the missiles?" he said. [...] "They would appear," said Ford doubtfully, "to have turned into a bowl of petunias and a very surprised looking whale ..." < 1464036530 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, prisoners, hmm < 1464036558 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464036676 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1464036844 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why did you ask? < 1464036958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: rntz asked < 1464036984 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but I knew that. < 1464036985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1464037093 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? troll < 1464037096 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so hard to come up with strategies but I have no clue how to get expected values out of them. < 1464037098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037113 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464037122 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn troll/These are not the trolls you are looking for. < 1464037130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «troll» < 1464037200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeti < 1464037203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeti? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sasquatch < 1464037246 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/troll/yeti/ wisdom/troll; mv wisdom/troll wisdom/yeti < 1464037269 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still bad, but better with the pun :-P < 1464037280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464037282 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sasquatch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037382 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeti < 1464037384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are not the yetis you are looking for. < 1464037433 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tungsten < 1464037435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tungsten? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? palladium < 1464037472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :palladium? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037475 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? platinum < 1464037477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :platinum? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037477 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? iridium < 1464037479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iridium? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037546 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464037652 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && find -iname "*gold*|*silver*|*copper*|*mercur*|*iron*|*tin*|*lead*|*zinc*|*um" < 1464037655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464037776 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-iname uses globs < 1464037782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, | doesn't work < 1464037782 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :| matches a literal | < 1464037804 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :use -iname pattern1 -o -iname pattern2 < 1464037821 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && perl -E 'say for glob split /\|/, "*gold*|*silver*|*copper*|*mercur*|*iron*|*tin*|*lead*|*zinc*|*um"' < 1464037823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1464037828 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464037831 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464037836 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && perl -E 'say $_ for glob split /\|/, "*gold*|*silver*|*copper*|*mercur*|*iron*|*tin*|*lead*|*zinc*|*um"' < 1464037837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1464037840 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1464037846 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && perl -E 'say join " ", glob split /\|/, "*gold*|*silver*|*copper*|*mercur*|*iron*|*tin*|*lead*|*zinc*|*um"' < 1464037847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1464037861 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && perl -E 'say join " ", map glob, split /\|/, "*gold*|*silver*|*copper*|*mercur*|*iron*|*tin*|*lead*|*zinc*|*um"' < 1464037866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :extreme ironing extreme irony iron general accounting estin latin poutine procrastination te sting testing trisecting the angle webcarting amnesium corium lorem ipsum qzyzzalroum rhenium < 1464037871 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1464037877 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? extreme irony < 1464037879 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme irony is what happens when you get a Darwin award for extreme ironing. < 1464037905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? te sting < 1464037907 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is horrible? < 1464037916 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? estin < 1464037917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :estin didn't believe in automation. < 1464037926 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? corium < 1464037928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corium is the material that a nuclear reactor's core dump is made of. < 1464037930 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qzuzzalorum < 1464037931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qzuzzalorum? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037932 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rhenium < 1464037934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhenium is a precious metal. It can be found nowhere in Earth because the Enemy has used up all of it for forging the One Ring. < 1464037955 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qzizzalroum < 1464037957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qzizzalroum? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464037965 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/q* < 1464037968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/qdb \ wisdom/quadrilateral \ wisdom/quebec \ wisdom/québec \ wisdom/quine \ wisdom/quintopia \ wisdom/quit \ wisdom/quote \ wisdom/quoteformat \ wisdom/qzyzzalroum < 1464037983 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qzyzzalroum < 1464037984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should start the crossword over. < 1464038001 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to update the PDF again... < 1464038099 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why bother, there's not much new wisdom entries apart from my silly ones < 1464038117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464038118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464038118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464038118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464038119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464038155 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the Wisdom is Universal. and Silly. it's Universilly hth < 1464038160 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :al gore//Al Gore invented the algorithm and the internet. < 1464038164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :char//Char is a prominent component of charcoal. < 1464038165 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. please don't molest HackEgo hth < 1464038168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464038170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck//Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1464038172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jit//JIT is just in time. < 1464038260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't think that's a good analogy to use here < 1464038319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1464038322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with single objects. < 1464038421 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't use the analogy < 1464038448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaphor < 1464038475 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? analogy < 1464038477 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metaphor < 1464038477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :analogy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464038478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaphor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464038541 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hyperbole < 1464038543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbole? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464038812 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464038815 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1464038820 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here? < 1464038826 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a real chat? < 1464038842 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit this is so boring < 1464038843 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye bye < 1464038846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome irctc796 < 1464038849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye bye < 1464038850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irctc796: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464039094 0 :irctc796!467ac853@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.122.200.83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464039571 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought one way I should to do high resolution is the high mode bit controls double horizontal and double vertical resolution frame rate but monochrome, enabling a separate output circuit, that can output four pixels in place of just one. So it is 1280x960 resolution. Some other stuff is also changed in such mode. < 1464039592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some of these other changes allow to make more tiles per line) < 1464039675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464039706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? in < 1464039708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. < 1464039959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚾ < 1464039960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚾ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464040003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464040151 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? -- --- .-. ... . < 1464040153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-- --- .-. ... .? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464040173 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? morse < 1464040174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morse? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464040290 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn morse/- .... . / .-- .- .-.. .-. ..- ... / .. ... / .- / .-.. .- .-. --. . / ..-. .-.. .. .--. .--. . .-. . -.. / -- .- .-. .. -. . / -- .- -- -- .- .-.. < 1464040294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «morse» < 1464040338 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464040719 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn morse/-- ..- .-. ... ..- / --- -. / ... ..- ..- .-. .. -.- --- -.- --- .. -. . -. / ..-. . ... .. . .-.. .-.- -- .-.- .-.- -. / ... --- .--. . ..- - ..- -. ..- - / .- .-. -.- - .. -. . -. / -. ... .-.- -.- .-.- ... .-.. .- .--- .. < 1464040723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «morse» < 1464040743 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better. at least it has mursu. < 1464040971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464041510 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppävellön[1]. < 1464041587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464041588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464041588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464041589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464041589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464041599 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:9c17:4b8e:14d1:98dd QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464041612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1040) your first mistake was making your second mistake < 1464041614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :508) It is like the Holocaust but with Nazis. < 1464041618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :915) as long as you're in company where no-one knows both, you can always say either "that's just like welsh ll" or "that's just like klingon tlh" < 1464041618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :314) I figured out something about C program. If you use ? : a lot then you don't need as much parentheses but it makes it more difficult to understand. < 1464041619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :284) esperanto is just spanish with a diarrhea < 1464041762 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 1040 < 1464041782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reminds me of timing issues in NetHack < 1464041934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What timing issues? < 1464041941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody implemented an emulator for https://xkcd.com/1442/ yet?? < 1464041966 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464041997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :emu later, alligator < 1464042051 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks shachaf < 1464042073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1464042178 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, simulation indicates that I can get the prisoners out after 21k visits to the room... and I have no clue what I'm doing exactly, so it's very likely that this is still far from optimal. < 1464042192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464042194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: ^^ < 1464042247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random order, no counting days, everyone uses same strategy? < 1464042253 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464042264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464042326 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464042425 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464042431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/EHdZ is my "framework" < 1464042562 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amulets of regeneration boost metabolism. does the same thing happen with amulets of magic regeneration? < 1464042636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do amulets of restful sleep boost somnambulism? < 1464042692 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1464042701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ᛁᚿ': ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ < 1464042715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1464042717 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does someone know unicode encoding of futhark of different ages and can help with the encoding of some particular letters? < 1464042737 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that link was for you ... it embodies the rules that I implemented :) < 1464042763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I saw. < 1464042783 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original writing is in https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_2 , with the transcription to latin letters in https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_3 and the decoding of the cipher in https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_5 < 1464042799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is the problem solvable if you don't know N? < 1464042806 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1464042847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Makes sense. < 1464042861 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, that's truncated < 1464042868 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚿ < 1464042870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464042880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're starting the light off. < 1464042897 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >> wisdom/ᛁᚿ ᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1464042898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: $'\341\233\205\341\233\213.': command not found < 1464042908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >> wisdom/ᛁᚿ 'ᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ' < 1464042909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: $'\341\233\205\341\233\213. \341\232\264\341\232\256\341\232\246 \341\232\240\341\233\205\341\232\264\341\233\201. \341\233\206\341\233\246\341\232\277\341\233\205 \341\233\213\341\233\206\341\232\264\341\232\277\341\232\242\341\233\213\341\233\213\341\233\205\341\233\257': command not found < 1464042915 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >> wisdom/ᛁᚿ echo 'ᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ' < 1464042918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464042921 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚿ < 1464042924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464042930 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it too long for an irk line? < 1464042952 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.{300}// wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464042953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464042955 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Perhaps if you change the problem to getting out with at least 99.99% certainty... so the real problem becomes statistically establishing how many prisoners there are in total... of course that's totally different in flavor from the original. < 1464042958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.{300}//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464042959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464042973 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.{200}//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464042974 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's probably too long for a HackEgo line, maybe also for an IRC line as well. < 1464042975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464042985 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464042989 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.{200,210}//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464042990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464042999 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :From this perspective, your original comment ended in "--gᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ" < 1464043006 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, that looks fine < 1464043022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.\{300\}//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​›á›¦á›… ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ \ ᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1464043036 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, appended twice < 1464043038 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's start again < 1464043058 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you use `fetch? < 1464043066 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo 'ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ' > wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043077 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it was just fine after the original learn, just truncated on output. < 1464043080 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo 'ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ ' >> wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043090 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚿ < 1464043093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ \ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁ < 1464043108 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.\{250\}//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ \ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁ < 1464043126 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed 's/^.\{250,255\}//' wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043127 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ \ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁ < 1464043131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what again? < 1464043158 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/5bc430607e2b was the initial `learn. < 1464043165 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to me to contain everything you said. < 1464043176 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e '$_=; print $_' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ < 1464043179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Right. < 1464043185 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e '$_=; print substr $_,200' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​š¿áš¦á›†á›‹ < 1464043193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e '$_=; print substr $_,201' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¿áš¦á›†á›‹ < 1464043198 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e '$_=; print substr $_,202' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᚦᛆᛋ < 1464043203 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1464043213 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -v < 1464043216 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 (v5.14.2) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ (with 88 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) \ \ Copyright 1987-2011, Larry Wall \ \ Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the \ GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit < 1464043224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1464043236 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone help < 1464043237 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1464043293 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to know if the two different looking runes used for c/k are different characters, whether ᛯ is the right encoding for the mm, what the encodings are for the g rune, the comma and the dot (those might not be runes actually), whether the strange shape for the a in the "attinges" is significant, < 1464043310 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how to encode the d rune for which I used ᚦ here < 1464043332 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who knows their futhark please help. < 1464043347 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ \ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁ < 1464043379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think you might be spamming the channel a bit. < 1464043394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want this wisdom entry in the first place? < 1464043396 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, I know, but if I try to learn outside the channel then you get annoyed for that < 1464043406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a nice inscription, and sounds wise < 1464043449 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo "${!PERL@}" < 1464043450 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043485 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll try verifying the entry in private < 1464043618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1464043621 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a newline in there < 1464043639 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >wisdom/ᛁᚿ echo 'ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ' < 1464043643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043653 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >>wisdom/ᛁᚿ echo 'ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ ' < 1464043657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043664 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/;$t=;print $t' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ \ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁ < 1464043668 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/;$t=;print substr$t,300' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043669 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1464043673 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1464043677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >wisdom/ᛁᚿ echo -n 'ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ' < 1464043679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043684 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >>wisdom/ᛁᚿ echo -n 'ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ ' < 1464043686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464043689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/;$t=;print $t' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464043693 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'local$/;$t=;print substr$t,300' < wisdom/ᛁᚿ < 1464043695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​›á›¦á›… ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1464043699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚿ < 1464043701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464043703 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1464044513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat < 1464044565 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what what < 1464044607 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's the secret message from the Jules Verne novel, and I'm asking esochannel for help with the unicode encoding and stuff < 1464044789 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464045620 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1464045632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464045840 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-67-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464045953 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SWEDISH CHICKEN < 1464046126 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464046274 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464046546 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464046771 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh wow, that was fast. < 1464046821 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hm, looks like my best solution so far averages about 16k steps to free the prisoners < 1464046893 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. do you allow the prisoners to add their own randomness to the process? < 1464046903 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... add their own randomness? < 1464046911 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prisoners actions are entirely deterministic < 1464046930 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it shouldn't make a huge difference anyway) < 1464046932 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use a randomized strategy? that would be interesting < 1464046949 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's deterministic so far. < 1464047010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason that it won't make a huge difference is that the light bulb serves as a random input anyway, in the beginning) < 1464047034 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? I'm not quite understanding you. the light bulb always starts off < 1464047052 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not from the perspective of an individual prisoner < 1464047054 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting the prisoners can imitate a randomized strategy using a prng seeded from the state of the light they see? < 1464047066 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464047069 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1464047129 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really doing that either... < 1464047165 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, wanna trade solutions? < 1464047181 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but you can see mine if you like < 1464047213 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no = not yet) < 1464047217 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you don't like spoilers :P < 1464047254 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, go ahead and explain yours (or link code, I suppose) < 1464047338 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... found another knob to tweak.. that helped a lot. < 1464047345 0 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047363 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1464047385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :below 16k now :) < 1464047463 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far below? < 1464047465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1464047470 0 :shachaf_!?@? NICK :shachaf < 1464047523 0 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047530 0 :caradow!~carado@savhon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047532 0 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two < 1464047547 0 :Lymee!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047548 0 :cnr_!~connor@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047555 0 :Tiktailk!~tiktalik@2607:fcd0:daaa:1400:f::4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047603 0 :Effilry!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047607 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1464047611 0 :Lymee!?@? NICK :Lymia < 1464047614 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-haiclxbljzyymeky QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :feliks!hCLCsjB2Y8@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :Tiktalik!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-knzdnqwvpbjefgct QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047614 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464047626 0 :cnr_!?@? NICK :cnr < 1464047641 0 :cnr!~connor@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 QUIT :Changing host < 1464047641 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047717 0 :Effilry!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1464047749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "FireFly" < 1464047751 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "FFeilry" < 1464047762 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: sorry, experimenting. 15400ish < 1464047769 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "firefly" < 1464047771 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "effilry" < 1464047819 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "phantom hoover" < 1464047820 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : " aehhmnoooprtv" < 1464047820 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. interesting! I am around 15690 (average of 500 runs with 100 prisoners) < 1464047826 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1464047828 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are... suspiciously close, but could be coincidence < 1464048154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464048542 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get to 2^20 trials, then pick those parameters and paste :) < 1464048575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much state do your prisoners have? < 1464048581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two counters < 1464048607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counters that go up to N? < 1464048659 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is unbounded, but it shouldn't hurt much if it gets truncated at some constant multiple of N anyway. < 1464048862 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two counters? interesting < 1464048883 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464048983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we have a winner, http://sprunge.us/JgAh < 1464049007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464049107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's further room for tweaking but it'll become messy) < 1464049155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464049305 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the purpose of `dark'? < 1464049331 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started out as a counter that counted how often the room was dark since the last light... < 1464049378 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still related to that, but basically it acts as a weight that determines how much the prisoner acts as a count. < 1464049394 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no good intuition for how this works! < 1464049397 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a proof that this never gets stuck? < 1464049412 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given that it completed 1048576 runs w/o getting stuck, it seems like it must be very unlikely) < 1464049445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the light bulb is off, all 'dark' counters increase, so eventually one of the tokens > 1+dark tests must fail. < 1464049454 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1464049455 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tokens keep moving and it'll terminate with probability 1. < 1464049457 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair nuff < 1464049490 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :handwaving, but that's one aspect I do understand well enough to be confident about it < 1464049491 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464049509 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464049618 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do your dark-tracking-to-determine-whether-I-count stuff; we share two optimizations; and I have one optimization you don't < 1464049620 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1464049632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there's a second aspect to it that's more subtle: as long as all dark counters are big, the same token will be passed on and on until one of the counters becomes small enough to be kept. < 1464049688 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not all counters can become large. < 1464049770 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hm, oh, I totally misunderstood your strategy < 1464049788 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so depending on your dark-counter you either give try to tokens away or to accept them? < 1464049830 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464049832 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1464049832 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Quit: Bai. < 1464049874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1464049891 0 :feliks!Pvoqql6Ok4@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1464049892 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. how do you know this can't somehow endlessly slosh back and forth between two prisoners? < 1464049938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464049942 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I suppose the randomness of the warden prevents that < 1464049948 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it definitely can do that. but it's also possible that some prisoner will never be called to the room < 1464049969 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I thought probability 1 assuming a random warden is good enough. < 1464049969 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's an unavoidable problem :P < 1464049972 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464049981 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probability 1 assuming random warden was my intended interpretation < 1464049985 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1464050330 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464050650 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464050906 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, there's another thing... good for shaving off about 600 rounds < 1464051028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464051339 0 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464051525 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: so final version for tonight: http://sprunge.us/OWPH < 1464051669 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1464051872 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464051891 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1464051892 0 :devhydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1464051892 0 :devhydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1464051938 0 :devhydraz!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1464052021 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: aha, you found my optimization, I think < 1464052030 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the dropped/accepting code) < 1464052072 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, perhaps, remembered... < 1464052090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Did you publish a paper about this or something? < 1464052115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're referenced in https://www.math.washington.edu/~morrow/336_11/papers/yisong.pdf < 1464052200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a paper; the reference is from the Dehaye/Ford/Segerman paper, "Newsgroup rec.puzzles, available through http://groups.google.com, July 2002" < 1464052234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1464052271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.puzzles/zkzEEfzqtis/w3pR8g1TJmEJ < 1464052307 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. That sounds like an interesting problem < 1464052329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "sortfly" < 1464052330 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "florsty" < 1464052333 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: anyway I'm fairly happy now... it's getting quite close to the 10418 number that you get by assigning a dedicated count. < 1464052344 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-duavyqzsbnmryqup JOIN :#esoteric < 1464052390 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: also I'm interested in your strategy now < 1464052608 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464052622 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that looks right < 1464052658 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is wrong with it? < 1464052684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With what? < 1464052715 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : I like 1040 ← yes, it is very truthy < 1464052740 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1464052809 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc JOIN :#esoteric < 1464052915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the deadline for 1040 was apr 15 hth < 1464053018 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 1040 < 1464053026 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok < 1464053032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1040? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464053042 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, why shouldn't we all know about US tax forms... < 1464053187 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464053193 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464053643 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1464053902 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464053940 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464054191 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464054199 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464054654 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464055315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464055871 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rgpflqhqnohtkvjf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464056372 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464056382 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464056426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you were way ahead of your time <-- if it's the story i think, this is quite appropriate hth < 1464056463 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464056481 0 :wibblewobble!~wibblewob@yakamo.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464056492 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1464056523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you thinking of _Story of Your Life_ < 1464056529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: naturally < 1464056546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!~wibblewob@yakamo.org$##fixyourconnection < 1464056564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like someone wibble-wobbled a little too much < 1464056568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1464056573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1464056648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was assuming that one story would be included in the book. < 1464056657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is included < 1464057317 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Have you read his other stories? < 1464057320 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're TG. < 1464058614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1464058665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well maybe i should send you a copy of the book instead hth < 1464058839 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464059056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Oh, "Soon to be a major motion picture". That's why there's a new edition. < 1464059088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: so you'd better hurry up and read it if you want to stay ahead of the hipster curve hth < 1464059664 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book < 1464059748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Stories of Your Life and Others_ by Ted Chiang < 1464059898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: twnh hth < 1464059912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would now help? < 1464059951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits shachaf with the saucepan ===\__/ < 1464059957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm hungry. < 1464059972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad you use your saucepan for hitting rather than for sauce < 1464059994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't cook much. < 1464060018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :======\ / < 1464060020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : \__/ < 1464060127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I always figured the saucepan was a skillet. < 1464060135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it's actually a saucepan. < 1464060163 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I thought that because of your skill at hitting people with it. < 1464061210 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464061255 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-065-238-099.088.065.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464061409 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-250-143.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464061451 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464061629 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464061774 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, somehow there seem to be problem with this internet today and restarting the router fixed it, hopefully it is OK by now. < 1464061805 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ping timeout did display on my computer though before it stopped; I did not get a connection error. < 1464062045 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464062844 0 :primo!~primo@122.155.138.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464063435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464064141 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464068092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am looking at the EM computer architecture it looks good so far < 1464068230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :EM? < 1464068316 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the letters stand for. < 1464068363 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is described in a report titled "DESCRIPTION OF A MACHINE ARCHITECTURE FOR USE WITH BLOCK STRUCTURED LANGUAGES". < 1464068812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464068948 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a virtual machine code and does not require any particular floating point representation. < 1464070473 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-slepervcddpyflbi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464070521 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlxooruqyvzhcrvm JOIN :#esoteric < 1464070533 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464070564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spämmi < 1464070707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently making up finnish-sounding words works retroactively, who knew) < 1464070759 0 :primo!~primo@122.155.138.138 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1464070872 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464071049 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464073152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1464074114 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oglrqxpetixqiqzf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464074283 0 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aaiabswkczwsnbye JOIN :#esoteric < 1464074661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464074781 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1464074856 0 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464074856 0 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1464074856 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1464075170 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464076646 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name intervene < 1464076649 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name confound < 1464076665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confound \ 1U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets one or more creatures. \ Draw a card. \ PS-C < 1464076665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intervene \ U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets a creature. \ UL-C < 1464077174 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464077521 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464077739 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-duavyqzsbnmryqup QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464079182 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1464079237 0 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464079735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464080498 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-54.reshall.wwu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464080536 0 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@c-67-201-229-54.reshall.wwu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1464081204 0 :caradow!?@? NICK :carado < 1464081564 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, I missed a key optimization yesterday... now I get fewer than 11200 rounds for the prisoners. < 1464081599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bragging was urgent... details later :-P) < 1464084609 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464085111 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464085173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464086534 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz, shachaf: http://sprunge.us/UETC ... I also added comments. < 1464087721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464087912 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464088490 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, if somebody's already been to the room, you can become a donor < 1464088496 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1464089214 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464089374 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1464089374 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1464090993 0 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1464091002 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464092053 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. how many exams today? < 1464092138 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlorgkvlmlbhvogt JOIN :#esoteric < 1464092351 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome xkapastel < 1464092369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07xkapastel: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1464092611 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TRIANGULAR CHICKEN < 1464097603 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464097678 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464098190 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? impossible < 1464098192 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rhyme < 1464098213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhyme? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464098213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464098569 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-stvzihxsvzrnnrkz JOIN :#esoteric < 1464099341 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464100974 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in M:tG, do you happen to know why Intervene and Confound are templated differently? As far as I can tell, the first abilities are functionally identical and there's no reason for them to have different wording. < 1464101470 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464101926 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464101967 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`xkcdwhatiflist < 1464101968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: xkcdwhatiflist: not found < 1464102098 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464103944 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtg < 1464103945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464103951 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? magic: the gathering < 1464103953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic: the gathering? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464103956 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? m:tg < 1464103958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m:tg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464103963 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this bot case-sensitive? < 1464104184 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think bin/? is. < 1464104238 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? MAgiC < 1464104240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic was in you all along. < 1464104243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks case-insensitive to me. < 1464104526 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464104557 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464104557 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464104557 0 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464104557 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1464105212 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464106968 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464108018 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1464108018 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1464108018 0 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464108018 0 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464108813 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464109027 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must realy like brainfuck, as I've written at least 3 compilers and 2 interpreters for it over 5 different PLs. < 1464109069 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is like othello: it's simple to compile it, but to master compiling it is difficult... < 1464109158 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you actually write programs in it? < 1464109493 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Someone wrote a compiler in it, so it's possible. https://github.com/matslina/awib < 1464109510 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally wrote a cat program in it. < 1464109522 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say someone < 1464109524 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said you < 1464109858 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Depends on how complicated the program is. < 1464109896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program that doubles a number i entered in base 10 < 1464109990 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Then yes. < 1464110008 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then makes a coffee < 1464110134 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Only if I add a compiler extension, but then it wouldn't follow the standard. < 1464110184 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464110258 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong... < 1464110273 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pipe the output of the program to /dev/coffeemachine < 1464110320 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: But then you'd be programming in some derivative of sh. < 1464110330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaa < 1464110353 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sh would simply connect the programs together. Pipes themselves are language-independant < 1464110384 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all sh would be doing is initializing the environment < 1464110400 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if initializing the environment counts, < 1464110410 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then as the console is also given to the program by sh... < 1464110421 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really win ^.^; < 1464110441 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're init < 1464110453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case the environment is "initialized" by... the linux kernel. < 1464110493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the OpenBSD kernel, or the FreeBSD kernel, or... you get the point. < 1464110531 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't even win with bare-metal assembly - the environment is initialized by the processor and/or BIOS. < 1464110570 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FPGAs? The programmer & circuit board. A bunch of transistors? The arrangement counts as an initialized environment... < 1464110611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-11235: What you're programming in is relative. < 1464110976 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Unfortunately I don't have /dev/coffee installed, or a coffee machine for that matter. < 1464111030 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, the nature of pipes means you can simply swap out /dev/coffee for the NetHack /dev/coffee Implementation Patch. < 1464111043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Built using CUSE, of course.) < 1464111275 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder how serious github is about letting me have an unlimited number of repos. < 1464111285 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhoh... < 1464111825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The magic was in you all along? < 1464111986 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nice work on the zzo38 computer spec, BTW :) < 1464112539 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464113355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464116323 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It looks like identical to me too and I don't know. Possibly due to historical reasons and the text hasn't been updated because it does not need to be. < 1464116356 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it I keep only hearing half of conversations? < 1464116721 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Possibly the messages are far apart and you did not read it < 1464116733 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It happens to me too of course) < 1464116755 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I joined at 15:42:07. < 1464116786 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I checked logs during my a-few-minutes downtime < 1464116822 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since 15:42:07, there have been 0 messages from b_jonas... so I should probably read more logs. < 1464118822 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464119035 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rntz: huh, the "5 is experimentally best" claim is wrong... it's 6 that gives the average quoted at the top... must have mised up my experiments. < 1464119271 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464119311 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464119793 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464119827 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464120882 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464120920 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464122718 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464126743 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464127699 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464128080 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464128853 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464129524 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464129544 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas? < 1464129547 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u here? < 1464129668 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? u < 1464129682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u monad? < 1464129689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the u < 1464129695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The U are a very mad people. < 1464129697 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: WHY? < 1464129703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/u < 1464129712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1464129718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/u < 1464129724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 0:e037173e0012 \ user: HackBot \ date: Thu Feb 16 19:42:32 2012 +0000 \ summary: Initial import. < 1464129807 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464129883 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea of making a esolang where the only form of data manipulation is by 'folding' and 'unfolding' the data tape to increment and decrement values < 1464129929 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each fold goes along the tape until it reaches a 'seam' which it stops at < 1464129949 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The direction of a fold depends on the direction of the instruction pointer < 1464129960 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can be either left or right < 1464129992 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Origami Tape, hmm. < 1464130057 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking about adding velocitys (and overshooting the seam) to the mix < 1464130061 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont think i should < 1464130069 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464130199 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think int-e? < 1464130329 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that question is too philosophical for me right now. < 1464130342 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well ima make it < 1464130358 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :name is simple too :P 'fold' < 1464130409 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, even better: make it 3d < 1464130413 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*2d < 1464130417 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 2d < 1464130443 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, ill stick to 1d for ease of implentation, i might try 2d later < 1464130965 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1464131073 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiet in here < 1464131718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464131734 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki wont let me publish < 1464131753 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can somene publish this for me? http://pastebin.com/zsknMxvN < 1464131829 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia hppavilion[1] < 1464131844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloon_ < 1464131928 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you publish that for me? < 1464132013 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Won't let"? < 1464132024 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, the wiki is refusing to publish < 1464132044 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you unpack that a little. < 1464132058 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, what is it doing instead. < 1464132063 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464132096 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :showing me the preview, and i am a hundred precent certain i have hit the publish button and not the preview one, for 20 times in a row now < 1464132115 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have any sort of an error message anywhere on the page? < 1464132157 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1464132236 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently my cookies are off and i never, ever turn them off < 1464132241 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is up here < 1464132268 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1464132276 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did say that to me as well. < 1464132285 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki's broken < 1464132294 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1464132295 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall it doing something similar before. Possibly something to do with the session storage. < 1464132302 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fun < 1464132336 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways.. i came up with the idea for a language that uses 'folds' in the tape to represent data < 1464132338 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1464132346 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcached has been killed by the OOM killer. < 1464132357 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOM? < 1464132362 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out-of-memory. < 1464132363 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : total used free shared buffers cached < 1464132363 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 2010 1910 99 43 29 120 < 1464132367 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not very good. < 1464132386 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we dont have gregor to fix it, he owns the wiki, right < 1464132389 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464132398 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, kinda-sorta. < 1464132408 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's his machine, I do have administrative rights on it. < 1464132413 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464132425 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can fix it? maybe? < 1464132437 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's all those python zombies HackEgo keeps making up these days. < 1464132445 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1464132447 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1464132466 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write a python antizombie *jokes yet not jokes* < 1464132493 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait.. python zombies? < 1464132508 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means i might be able to access the external system using something like that.. < 1464132617 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site stopped rendering right on my end < 1464132625 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I restarted a couple of things. < 1464132633 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1464132651 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logging in works for me now. < 1464132653 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1464132656 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same' < 1464132684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fold14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47059 5* 03Moon 5* (+969) 10Created < 1464132791 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, because you have admin rights, dont you have access to hackego? < 1464132802 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*noting you could install GHC for hackego again* < 1464132848 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie? < 1464132877 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, but I try to avoid touching it as much as I can, since it's not really mine. < 1464132898 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464132912 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame < 1464132940 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The zombie thing is strange, I used to think it was recent, but looking at it, it doesn't look like multibot ever waited for its children (or daemonized either). < 1464132974 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could cause out of sync processes that way < 1464132986 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't really follow. < 1464133007 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, it could be a denial-of-service-ish thing, clogging up the process table. < 1464133025 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arn't the processes being ran? < 1464133049 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A zombie is a process that's died but its corpse just hasn't been collected by the parent. < 1464133056 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1464133061 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm then < 1464133087 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well would it be possible to make a process that lives beyond the time of the main one? < 1464133122 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does hackego collect threads? < 1464133212 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it collects the whole kernel < 1464133219 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464133224 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1464133235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1464133236 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of sandboxing and timeouting in the actual HackEgo stuff, and as far as I know they work pretty reliably, always terminating in a reasonable time. It's just that, AFAICT, the multibot core doesn't clean up the trash. < 1464133248 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or dissassociate itself from it.) < 1464133291 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int-e wouldnt it be nice if hackego had GHC? < 1464133293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that's the part written in C, so I'm even less inclined to start patching it. Since I have no idea whether the binary running there is actually from the public source or not. < 1464133327 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not, as far as i know, i have not seen the core in the bitbucket repository < 1464133339 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's there -- it's just a different repo. < 1464133343 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/multibot/src < 1464133369 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd happily help patch it then :P < 1464133372 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know if the version HackEgo's running has been customized. < 1464133461 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, i dont run linux < 1464133465 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm < 1464133516 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has < 1464133529 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cmd execution of the multibot inthe bitbucket lacks sandboxing < 1464133550 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's yet another repository. < 1464133568 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesnt use the umlbox command for executing commands < 1464133592 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just 'exec' s it < 1464133599 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because it's not *multibot* that does it. < 1464133616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's done by the *hackbot* code. < 1464133617 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you may want http://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ < 1464133621 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464133636 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait, that's also the wrong one... < 1464133659 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot < 1464133663 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot < 1464133687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of the "everything in one repository" approach? < 1464133692 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's great. < 1464133703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464133710 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't scale < 1464133733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464133750 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It scales up to a Google. < 1464133772 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :define "one repository < 1464133773 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1464133823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in one hg or Perforce or whatever repository. < 1464133844 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im thinking about writing a basic text editor for hackego < 1464133879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to keep state between lines of HackEgo without committing to hg? < 1464133928 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have picked too broad a context for "everything". < 1464133945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean all your code and so on. < 1464133948 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not that I know of. < 1464133966 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't want to have a tangled mess of all my projects. < 1464133979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you put each one in its own directory. So it's not a mess. < 1464133992 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I can have a repository for each. < 1464134023 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what should i set the max file size input to? (aka how much memory it devotes to the file) < 1464134065 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you need something that scales up to two googles < 1464134077 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think hackego has that much ram < 1464134098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is a limitation of the RCSs that I'm aware of... they don't offer nice views ala "what's the history of this subdirectory") < 1464134117 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"clone this subdirectory" "merge from the previously cloned subdirectory" < 1464134125 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I think you shouldn't try to do the thing at all. You can't run anything persistently, so your editor would need to write all state to file (and make a commit) for every operation. < 1464134141 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is more of a file operator < 1464134147 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's far easier to use something like submodules to compose a view of a larger project from smaller parts, right now. < 1464134153 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a command, and preforms it < 1464134155 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1464134185 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as things stand, I don't think I want to use anything resembling a "repository for everything." < 1464134322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even so, I think we generally would like to discourage interactive editing on the bot, since it involves so much history. < 1464134341 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sed already exists, anyway.) < 1464134374 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like doing it, plus it will test my shellscripting, ill do it offscreen < 1464134389 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and regarding the ghc question... I've not seriously missed it. < 1464134419 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a good tutorial on ptolemaic physics? < 1464134479 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing it off-channel doesn't really solve the problem of bloating the history. < 1464134585 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Gregor not around to ask about this stuff? < 1464134616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "this stuff"? < 1464134704 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether the binaries are compiled from the source you have < 1464134709 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a book that explains deferents, epicycles, and equants. < 1464134734 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sort < 1464134744 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google deferents epicycles equants ptolemaic physics < 1464134746 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle < 1464134747 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and one that isn't in arabic, latin or greek < 1464134751 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beleive hackego has it < 1464134754 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, literally wikipedia < 1464134774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464134778 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yay < 1464134804 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's certainly not around *here*. I suppose he might be reachable in general, but I'm too lazy for that sort of thing. < 1464134836 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: doesn't explain the math or provide examples of how large the circle is for say venus. < 1464134876 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. the first page http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi usually covers a week or two... it would be nice if we could keep it that way. < 1464134890 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the maths is easy, i guess the actual numbers might need some work < 1464134891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount | paste < 1464134900 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.20494 < 1464134948 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a ptolemaic physics mod for KSP < 1464134996 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the real solar system bodies, but in ptolemaic "orbits" < 1464135144 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://astro.unl.edu/naap/ssm/animations/ptolemaic.swf has parameters, idk how accurate they are < 1464135171 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a start < 1464135251 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://digitalcommons.kennesaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1045&context=ojur also lists some constants < 1464135268 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a pdf... strange link) < 1464135326 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ptolomaic system constants < 1464135327 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle < 1464135339 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially what I did, though I didn't pick the first link :) < 1464135380 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`append < 1464135381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/append: line 1: : No such file or directory < 1464135384 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1464135486 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary; list < 1464135487 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1464135496 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does shell take input again? < 1464135500 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in shellscripts < 1464135501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman fizzie hppavilion[1] Phantom_Hoover int-e b_jonas boily a`a`a`a`jo7as a`a`a`a`jo8as a`a`a`a`jo3as a`a`a`a`jo6as a`a`a`a`jo5as a`a`a`a`jo4as a`a`a`a`jo2as a`a`a`a`jo1as a`a`a`a`jonas0 a`a`a`a lambdabot chicken_jonas myname < 1464135503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I had an idea for keeping state between HackEgo commands but it didn't work. < 1464135520 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it < 1464135527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, ooh, what if I also added a "aether" between the planets? < 1464135540 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, as in what? < 1464135575 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to massively rewrite ksp physics if you want drag < 1464135601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ksp < 1464135626 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it would be a thin all-pervading atmosphere. < 1464135628 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just realized how to expand the acronym...) < 1464135673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1464135681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman is highlighted up to the n for me < 1464135828 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an advanced jet engine you could fly a plane to the moon. < 1464135858 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this could work but it'd be insanely buggy < 1464135873 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Like all great mods! < 1464135876 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to spend a long time working out corner cases < 1464135877 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid of the next generation of rocket engineers < 1464135886 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol < 1464135899 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i think ksp's atmosphere is hardcoded to an exponential curve and a pressure cutoff < 1464135917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Kopernicus you can edit that though < 1464135954 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do shellscripts take command line arguments? < 1464135964 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean you can do non-exponential pressure curves? < 1464135992 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_, $ for individual arguments, $_ (iirc) for the entire argument vector < 1464136069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not sure, I think so < 1464136078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope so anyway < 1464136096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hostfs is too strange hth < 1464136097 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464136217 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now I'm messing around with the stock kerbol system < 1464136228 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would this work? $2 >> $3 < 1464136241 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it? < 1464136242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /proc/filesystems | paste < 1464136249 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.7958 < 1464136251 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: $@ < 1464136263 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk testcmd// $2 >> $3 < 1464136266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testcmd < 1464136267 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's $_ then... < 1464136283 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`testcmd derp derp testcmd < 1464136284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: testcmd: not found < 1464136291 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./testcmd derp derp testcmd < 1464136291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/testcmd: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/testcmd: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1464136298 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx testcmd// $2 >> $3 < 1464136298 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: FWIW, I seem to recall UML hostfs doesn't have any target directory limits per se, so if you did get root access in the guest, you might be able to mount more things. < 1464136300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testcmd < 1464136302 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./testcmd derp derp testcmd < 1464136302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/testcmd: line 1: $3: ambiguous redirect < 1464136309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_ is a perl thing < 1464136319 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./testcmd derp derp test < 1464136320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/testcmd: line 1: $3: ambiguous redirect < 1464136323 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1464136325 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1464136330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I just wanted to mmap a file and hide some data in the page cache. < 1464136345 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But of course you don't just get the host's page as-is. < 1464136356 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When used in the text of the message, $_ expands to the ame of the current mailfile." ... from the bash manpage. Don't ask me what it means. < 1464136392 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :$* is like $@ except they're different when in double quotes. < 1464136397 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will call my mod "Karistotellian"! < 1464136424 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I think I get it. But I don't think that there are many systems left that have a mail spool directory on the file system that the shell could watch...) < 1464136424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The $@/double-quote interaction is so strange. < 1464136443 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange, but oh-so-useful. < 1464136471 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do shell programming without "$@" < 1464136475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ignored > .hgignore < 1464136479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo abc > ignored < 1464136489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat ignored < 1464136496 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1464136499 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the atmosphere is actually a piecewise linear < 1464136500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | head -n1 < 1464136507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` echo ignored > .hgignore < 1464136511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: solved hth < 1464136514 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a lot of pieces < 1464136520 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's *so* crummy. < 1464136644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1464136650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm ignored .hgignore < 1464136653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `ignored': No such file or directory < 1464136688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo .hgignore > .hgignore < 1464136689 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat .hgignore < 1464136696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.hgignore < 1464136721 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i write to a specific line with shellscript? < 1464136726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So now you approve of HackEgo text editors, no doubt? < 1464136775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464136780 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one im working on already can focus on reading a line, i just need to figure out how to write a line < 1464136804 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think you should make a standardized unversioned directory if you want to go ahead with that. < 1464136811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one of the great unsolved problems of computer science. < 1464136812 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wonder what it'll break. < 1464136838 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the command for readline, by the way, would be 'med rl ' < 1464136843 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464136844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: med: not found < 1464136848 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking, and yay < 1464136861 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The reset-redo-commit cycle is so complicated.) < 1464136882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ishare > .hgignore < 1464136885 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136890 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i echo ibin >> .hgignore < 1464136910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mkdir ishare < 1464136911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo papaya > ishare/fruit < 1464136916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ishare/fruit < 1464136936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya < 1464136950 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did hackego get fast? < 1464136956 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1464136972 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1464136985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test > canary < 1464136986 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im making a basic text editor for hackego, so i have not been paying attention < 1464136988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464136995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ishare/fruit < 1464136996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya < 1464137002 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type ed < 1464137002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1464137003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1464137004 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464137007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ishare/fruit < 1464137007 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :``type ed < 1464137010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `type: not found < 1464137011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya < 1464137015 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type ed < 1464137016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed is /bin/ed < 1464137020 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: ^ < 1464137026 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ed < 1464137033 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed is interactive < 1464137046 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you launched an interactive process < 1464137048 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it wont work with the timelimit and the limitations < 1464137056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464137057 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego has a timelimit now < 1464137061 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont worry :P < 1464137066 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always had < 1464137074 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1464137079 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot had some kind of daemons < 1464137080 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thought you didnt know *confusing self* < 1464137092 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ages ago. < 1464137098 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is less interactive and more straight forward < 1464137131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv ishare ignored; echo ignored > .hgignore < 1464137134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `ishare': No such file or directory < 1464137140 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie 'med il 11 'this is a line insert'' < 1464137153 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1464137155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464137223 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this should work, right? sed -i '${NUM}i\${DATA}' < 1464137306 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed -i "$num a $data" and if $data contains newlines you have to escape them < 1464137328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'syntax: regexp\n.*' > .hgignore < 1464137330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464137359 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably easier to just use { sed 17q; echo new content here; sed 1,17d; } < input > output < 1464137390 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you write that out to use arguments? < 1464137444 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Isn't that a bit, I don't know, broad? < 1464137473 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464137481 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ia, how would i make a argument select the right line in that code? < 1464137482 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :add_after_line () { { sed "$1q"; echo "$2"; sed "1,$1d"; } < "$3" > /tmp/tmp; mv /tmp/tmp "$3"; } < 1464137501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm surprised that change didn't get ignored. < 1464137504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably did it wrong. < 1464137547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test > share/test < 1464137548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464137560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not. < 1464137696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, feel free to revert if you want to change something. < 1464137735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, .hgignore < 1464137750 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, right?! < 1464137755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i echo .hgignore >> .hgignore < 1464137800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 `` echo .hgignore > .hgignore < 1464137852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what does "i,i" mean when you say it twh < 1464137875 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1464137878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ fuck \ good \ hw \ ibin \ ignored \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ testcmd \ theorems \ tmflry \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1464137896 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rl 1 testcmd < 1464137897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/med: line 28: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' \ /hackenv/bin/med: line 28: `fi' < 1464137901 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1464137925 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464137937 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the if ... fi's are matched up < 1464137961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're not. < 1464137968 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464137970 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i miss? < 1464137975 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last top-level if isn't closed; and it's missing a bunch of 'then's. < 1464137992 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lol < 1464138065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: See, I don't think it was all that broad. < 1464138104 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well... but the problem is, changing it now will erase all the work done since then. < 1464138148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1464138149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464138170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn i,i i,i is meaningless hth < 1464138172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'i,i': i,i i,i is meaningless hth < 1464138193 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fixed it, but its still complaining < 1464138197 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about that 1 fi < 1464138206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It has a similar meaning to . o O, I think. < 1464138222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i did waver a bit between them. < 1464138236 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone able to fix that? im still no good at shellscript < 1464138240 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, it's still missing a majority of thens. < 1464138243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not exactly the same, i think. < 1464138258 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't see them. < 1464138266 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting them to be on a *different line*. < 1464138274 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, one use for hgignore would be fetching a big file like GHC. < 1464138296 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why dont we? < 1464138315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How are you seeing the file? < 1464138329 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm cheating. < 1464138355 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, looking at it on the host.) < 1464138367 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you fix it for me, fizzie? im still terrible at shellscript < 1464138375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I figured. < 1464138415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: fizzie said you shouldn't even be doing it. < 1464138422 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1464138428 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464138430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/med: line 31: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' \ /hackenv/bin/med: line 31: `fi' < 1464138513 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The []s need some space to breathe, is one thing. < 1464138577 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, done in my copy, what else? < 1464138594 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"filename = $3" is not an assignment. < 1464138628 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It would try to run a command called "filename".) < 1464138640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464138647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "i,i" "i have no point, i just" < 1464138649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://touch.amirite.com/229878-youd-be-skeptical-if-an-atheist-or-agnostic-told-you-that-they-want-to-raise-their-children-as < 1464138649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: You'd be skeptical if an atheist or agnostic told you that they want to raise... < 1464138663 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's not right. < 1464138689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "i have no point, i just * to say" < 1464138690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/_ashfall_/status/706887040986525696 < 1464138711 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ap command would also try to execute the given argument as a command, which may or may not be intentional. < 1464138719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1464138750 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you preform the fixes, because i dont get exactly what to do < 1464138763 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can learn off of the fixed code < 1464138983 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if your working on it, thanks fizzie < 1464138999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...didn't github's comment box use to allow you to resize it? < 1464139043 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a bad file < 1464139048 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits fuck < 1464139053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolyouthinkimrea < 1464139060 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1464139078 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm fuck < 1464139081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464139144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only see 5 lines at a time now :( < 1464139160 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1464139195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's how big github's comment box is. < 1464139195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, when you rm .hgignore, all the changes will be committed at once, right? < 1464139200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Nope. < 1464139210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that because of the strange commit process? < 1464139218 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Writes happen by cleaning up the repository to a pristine state, then rerunning the command currently being processed. < 1464139219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I remember now. < 1464139221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does it twice. < 1464139249 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fizzie, could you clean up the code for med? i want to learn off of a functional copy of it < 1464139253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, but why did it keep an ignored file earlier after I committed? < 1464139277 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464139279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/med: line 31: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' \ /hackenv/bin/med: line 31: `fi' < 1464139304 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: I'm a bit hesitant because I still don't think it's a good idea in general, but http://sprunge.us/KQie is after one pass of general (untested) cleanups. < 1464139331 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, thanks < 1464139412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders kicking people randomly until someone answers the question, and wonders if he might need some sugar. < 1464139449 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i decided to test it rl (readline) doesnt output < 1464139471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Which question? < 1464139489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, about the history of github's comment box? < 1464139492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464139518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't notice it was this awkward last time i tried to write a comment. < 1464139532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mine still allows resizing. < 1464139535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm testing in Firefox. < 1464139537 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Oh, =~ also needs [[ .. ]] instead of [ .. ]. < 1464139547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if they broke it with that "Attach files" message < 1464139549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh. < 1464139552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1464139553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a little thing at the bottom-right corner. < 1464139567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only vertical resizing, though, not horizontal. < 1464139578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's vertical i need. < 1464139578 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how would i make rl print? < 1464139583 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its suppost to print the line < 1464139609 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: http://sprunge.us/DMCj works for me: http://sprunge.us/VeDi < 1464139621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Another way I can resize it is by right-clicking, and clicking "inspect element", and then changing the CSS "height" attribute. < 1464139624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1464139666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* i could do that. < 1464139689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could kick people randomly. < 1464139691 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By the by, your i,i wisdom entry also fell victim to .hgignore. < 1464139701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: darn < 1464139707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was for the best. < 1464139716 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1464139717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i is meaningless hth < 1464139723 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's there, sure, but not committed. < 1464139730 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/i,i < 1464139732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nothing new < 1464139734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464139762 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: [20:29] `med rl 4 bin/med [20:29] No output. < 1464139804 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat i,i < 1464139806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: i,i: No such file or directory < 1464139811 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/i,i < 1464139812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i is meaningless hth < 1464139818 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: That's because you're providing it only one argument. < 1464139824 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i is meaningless hth < 1464139827 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1464139831 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rl 4 bin/med < 1464139832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ "$1" == "rl" ]; then < 1464139834 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh woops! < 1464139842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, is the joke that you wrote a double hth on that line? < 1464139869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1464139880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1464139884 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿Understands everyone what I just said? < 1464139898 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should just remove hgignore and do a sneaky sidechannel commit to restore normality. < 1464139937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't be sneaky hth < 1464139942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait, are you saying rm .hgignore might destroy everything? < 1464139944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not fair since no one else can be sneaky < 1464139961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, just everything edited since it was added. < 1464139966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv .hgignore hgignore; hg status; mv hgignore .hgignore < 1464139981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! .hgignore \ ? bin/med \ ? hgignore \ ? ignored/fruit \ ? share/test \ ? wisdom/i,i < 1464139989 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those things. < 1464140019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because the repository cleanup would remove exactly those files, and then try rerunning the given command again.) < 1464140020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464140020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think those things merit sneakiness. < 1464140042 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not. I'd probably break something if I tried to be sneaky. < 1464140064 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il 1 'Here is a demo' testcmd < 1464140066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464140068 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testcmd < 1464140070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ $2 >> $3 \ Here is a demo < 1464140085 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il 1 'Note the fact the text is overwritten' testcmd < 1464140087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464140088 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testcmd < 1464140089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ $2 >> $3 \ Note the fact the text is overwritten < 1464140265 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think izabera's command line was expecting to read the input file twice, but then fed it in as a single input to the entire series of commands. < 1464140299 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted it to do that < 1464140306 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who summons me < 1464140310 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's fizzie < 1464140314 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` { sed 1q; echo "insert a line"; cat; } < testcmd < 1464140314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ $2 >> $3 \ insert a line \ Note the fact the text is overwritten < 1464140316 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u wake me up < 1464140327 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH GOD I'M DUMB < 1464140357 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ sed 17q /dev/stdin; echo line; sed 1,17d /dev/stdin; } < foo < 1464140363 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that < 1464140373 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i is stupid < 1464140442 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I wouldn't have thought of that. < 1464140454 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd've just had sed < foo; echo; sed < foo.) < 1464140474 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also fine < 1464140559 0 :primo!~primo@49.49.243.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464140579 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I did write the "ffbit" program. It can be use with Famicom, BytePusher, and whatever else you might use with < 1464140612 0 :primo!~primo@49.49.243.81 PART #esoteric : < 1464140634 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some formats supported in "bitff" are not yet implemented in "ffbit", although I may add it later) < 1464140863 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do we have an .hgignore file? < 1464140877 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :to ignore things < 1464140902 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels helpful < 1464140961 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med il 1 'Because we do, tsweet' testcmd < 1464140962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464140969 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testcmd < 1464140970 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ $2 >> $3 \ Note the fact the text is overwritten < 1464140974 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464140981 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il 1 'Because we do, tsweet' testcmd < 1464140983 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464140984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464140985 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testcmd < 1464140986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ $2 >> $3 \ Because we do, tsweet < 1464141421 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: shachaf added one as a clever/sneaky way of doing unversioned state, and then broadened it up to .* for reasons. < 1464141445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: The magic was in you all along? <-- wat? < 1464141454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: were they good reasons < 1464141492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have to assume they were, because they're beyond me. < 1464141497 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1464141498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax: regexp \ .* < 1464141498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1464141509 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or are we ignoring everything? < 1464141517 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking, isn't it < 1464141586 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do we want unversioned hackego? < 1464141596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Right now I think this ignore file is turning out pretty useful. < 1464141608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: so that we can have temporary files without cluttering history. < 1464141625 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464141627 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good thinking. < 1464141642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed, it has already discouraged me from adding another wisdom. < 1464141646 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: add med and medexp to it, i update them < 1464141655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I meant the thinking of renaming ignored/ to tmp/ < 1464141658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv ignored tmp < 1464141659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464141674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But your wisdoms are great. < 1464141703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well choose your poison. < 1464141715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My position is: More oerjanwisdom. < 1464141728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all these med edits aren't useful. < 1464141769 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do the latter in your fancy new tmp/? < 1464141777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact my full position might be a little bit too rude to say here. < 1464141905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: um "temporary" means scratch data for commands, not the actual commands... we _do_ want to see commands that edit permanent files. < 1464141932 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1464141943 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt move anything there < 1464141946 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1464141947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruit < 1464141953 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then :P < 1464141959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: To be clear: Are you saying that when someone runs a command like that, we want to see it in the repository history? < 1464141985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you saying that we think it would improve the repository to include more commands that can edit permanent files? < 1464141990 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, med is a file editor, do you think it would be useful? < 1464142016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: i don't know. how does it improve upon sed -i < 1464142018 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rl 1 tmp/fruit < 1464142019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464142024 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464142027 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rl 1 tmp/fruit < 1464142028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya < 1464142030 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I meant doing the "development" in tmp, then moving the final product into bin. < 1464142032 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can preform edits < 1464142038 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1464142050 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv bin/medexp tmp/medexp < 1464142050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh well i guess < 1464142050 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `bin/medexp tmp/medexp' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464142056 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/medexp tmp/medexp < 1464142056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464142074 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `med is generally a working version < 1464142098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: however, right now _everything_ is ignored. < 1464142112 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1464142113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but presumably someone non-retired will fix that at some point. < 1464142120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh < 1464142131 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*points to shachaf* < 1464142173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1464142180 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '^tmp/' < 1464142181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ < 1464142192 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. Touchscreen. < 1464142237 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix tmp/medexp < 1464142238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464142242 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`medexp < 1464142242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: medexp: not found < 1464142251 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./tmp/medexp < 1464142252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/tmp/medexp: line 33: [: missing `]' < 1464142261 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it < 1464142265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you adding temporary files to fungot < 1464142265 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, i should like to highlight some of the justifications for the four reports discussed by yourselves. i shall repeat, although i find it nothing short of antidemocratic to use a fnord turn of phrase, have not been specific about the contents and structure of the human race, and the decision-maker to take account of the financial perspective up to 2006 are proving, just two different systems of liability. the < 1464142280 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1464142294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did fungot just leak your secret identity hth < 1464142294 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mr president, i agree with all the technical assistance offices. we also consider it important and we agree with some of the mistakes made. i feel that they meet the relevant basic requirements in full, and decisions must be taken into account. < 1464142297 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, the manual sez regexps are the default syntax and also unanchored by default. < 1464142307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well then < 1464142309 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '^tmp/' > .hgignore # kablam? < 1464142311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only skimmed it a bit. < 1464142312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464142321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/med < 1464142322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/med: No such file or directory < 1464142329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/fruit < 1464142330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya < 1464142334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1464142335 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464142338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's leave it like this now < 1464142340 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to med? < 1464142360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this channel is too small for two presidents < 1464142374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to kick me now as a joke < 1464142383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you going to kick me for being rude < 1464142448 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1464142498 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*puts a kickme sign on shachaf and uses superglue on it* < 1464142504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not be kicked as a joke. < 1464142517 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :be kicked forreal < 1464142543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I should've capitalized those two questions to indicate that they weren't jokes. < 1464142572 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rl 2 testcmd < 1464142574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464142582 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rl 2 testcmd < 1464142583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because we do, tsweet < 1464142597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric :shachaf < 1464142604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1464142622 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spanish? nice one < 1464142636 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type med < 1464142637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my timing was ruined by spending far too long trying to find tswett's ¿ up above < 1464142638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :med is /hackenv/bin/med < 1464142647 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /hackenv/bin/med < 1464142648 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ numcheck='^[0-9]\+$' \ add_after_line () { { sed "$1q"; echo "$2"; sed "1,$1d"; } < "$3" > /tmp/medtmp; mv /tmp/medtmp "$3"; } #Thanks izabera! \ if [ "$1" == "rl" ]; then \ if [[ "$2" =~ $numcheck ]]; then \ echo "error: Not a number" >&2;exit 1 \ fi \ NUM="$2" \ cat "$3" | sed "${N < 1464142652 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1464142672 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you escaping + in ^[0-9]+$ < 1464142675 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try reading it a line at a time < 1464142689 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even the whole script i see < 1464142697 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rl 1 bin/med < 1464142699 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464142703 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rl 1 bin/med < 1464142704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash < 1464142709 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rl 2 bin/med < 1464142710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :numcheck='^[0-9]\+$' < 1464142716 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` paste /hackenv/bin/med < 1464142719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/med < 1464142735 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not good with regular expressions, thats my excuse < 1464142765 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not done < 1464142777 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next version is work in progress under tmp/medexp < 1464142793 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :to read a line sed -n 17p file < 1464142800 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed is not that hard to use < 1464142820 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im no good with bash and sed :P < 1464142826 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can be stupid sometimes < 1464143224 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464143379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` paste /hackenv/bin/med <-- oh hm. if we're going to have an ignored directory, then paste needs to know about it. < 1464143406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it will give repository urls that won't exist. < 1464143440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, the logic is in url. < 1464143443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/url < 1464143445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \ print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \ f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|\.hg(?:/|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository.") \ else: \ < 1464143492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that re.match line, hth < 1464143542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/url < 1464143544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/url < 1464143660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1464143663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ < 1464143674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464143705 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '8s/.hg/(?:.hg|tmp)/' bin/url < 1464143708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464143721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1464143722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruit \ medexp < 1464143731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste tmp/fruit < 1464143739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/url", line 8, in \ if re.match(r"/|\(?:.hg|tmp)(?:/|$)",f): \ File "/usr/lib/python2.7/re.py", line 137, in match \ return _compile(pattern, flags).match(string) \ File "/usr/lib/python2.7/re.py", line 242, in _compile \ raise error, v # invalid expression \ sre_cons < 1464143744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1464143778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1464143844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 8132 < 1464143859 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1464143909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed '8s/..hg/(?:\&|tmp)/' bin/url < 1464143911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \ print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \ f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|(?:&|tmp)(?:/|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository.") \ el < 1464143918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed '8s/..hg/(?:&|tmp)/' bin/url < 1464143919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys, os.path, re, urllib \ if len(sys.argv) <= 1: \ print "http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/" \ else: \ f = os.path.abspath(sys.argv[1]) \ f = re.sub(r"^/+hackenv/", "", f) \ if re.match(r"/|(?:\.hg|tmp)(?:/|$)",f): \ sys.exit("File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository.") \ < 1464143928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '8s/..hg/(?:&|tmp)/' bin/url < 1464143932 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464143937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste tmp/fruit < 1464143944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.5856 < 1464143954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/url < 1464143956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/url < 1464143959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1464145371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is botspanning < 1464145391 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where is shachaf? < 1464145401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i kicked him hth < 1464145426 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1464145448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( some people are so sensitive ) < 1464145452 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's teh backup head of the Department of Inadvisably Applied Haskell, then? < 1464145471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either int-e or me < 1464145530 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so I am considering the following model for my game engine < 1464145533 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of phases < 1464145539 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are only valid in certain phases < 1464145562 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm thinking that each phase will store the relevant state, and the overall game state will be a GameState p < 1464145563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed state monad, clearly. < 1464145579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you did say inadvisable, right?) < 1464145584 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464145628 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monads are what I want, but I'm approximating them because I don't want to shave the yak of supporting all the things I want it to support < 1464145630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that new thing everyone's talking about... servant. < 1464145635 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464145647 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a web api thing < 1464145676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure it's just web < 1464145679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe. < 1464145694 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to approximate indexed monads and hope that I'm not dumb enough to do something that will break it < 1464145710 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose I could always "put undefined" just to be sure) < 1464145731 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the inadvisable part is that I need to provide some way to give feedback to the user < 1464145764 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some options on cards are only valid in certain phases, and I don't want to have to define the effects of each card for each phase differently < 1464145778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: perhaps you want zoom from lens? < 1464145787 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the problem is the typing < 1464145797 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking ifctx < 1464145871 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the action definitions can be type-safe but then ifctx can turn that static information to dynamic information for the UI < 1464145878 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and to make the types not completely suck) < 1464145983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never heard of ifctx < 1464145997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks obscure. < 1464146108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw shachaf is still online if you want someone qualified. < 1464146134 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1464148800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1464148908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rechaf < 1464149001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo joke kicks are an abuse of +o (especially when they're not clearly jokes) hth < 1464149046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, why does http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi show a bunch of things that happened during the great ignore? < 1464149210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't follow, anyway. < 1464149348 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ok < 1464149375 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a player can have a bunch of cards, which may do things. some cards have multiple options to use, but some can only be done at certain times < 1464149383 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, playing an attack outside of combat < 1464149391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1464149407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruit \ medexp < 1464149407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...slow again? < 1464149414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/fruit < 1464149414 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya < 1464149415 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1464149423 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't play an attack outside of combat < 1464149452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo banana >>tmp/fruit < 1464149453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo apple >>tmp/fruit < 1464149463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464149463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464149469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/fruit < 1464149470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :papaya \ banana \ apple < 1464149479 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so an attack might have type (InCombat p) => Effect p () < 1464149491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope < 1464149539 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it type-safe so it can't do anything that it shouldn't be able to do outside its phase, and in particular can't try to access state of the not-current phase < 1464149551 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I can't just make a card have a [Effect p ()] because of the constraint < 1464149639 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also s/ifctx/ifcxt/ apparently < 1464149828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Files that are already tracked are not affected by .hgignore, even if they appear in .hgignore." < 1464149830 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ifcxt library lets me evaluate the constraint and do exactly what I want < 1464149839 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know if it's a horrid design to do this erasure < 1464150014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/i,i < 1464150024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464150065 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand, if I make that decision, I'm pretty much finished the logic engine and can get to writing code < 1464150078 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, I hate committing to designs < 1464150685 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :icareaboutperfor < 1464150690 0 :icareaboutperfor!?@? NICK :izabera < 1464150718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464150719 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :icareaboutspeed < 1464150785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You also picked a pretty bad time to ask. < 1464150798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could hardly keep my eyes open in front of the computer. < 1464150839 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry? < 1464150843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464150862 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad for you. < 1464150862 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some sleep! < 1464150966 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-250-143.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464151332 0 :icareaboutspeed!?@? NICK :izabera < 1464151920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not quite like that. < 1464151970 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-064-058-101.088.064.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464152272 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a note that was a reply to someone who wanted to copy Macrovisioned VHS to DVD, and it says "There's no way to connect a stabilizer between the VHS and DVD on a combo." However, this is not true. I have a VHS/DVD combo and have been able to connect a stabilizer (although the one I used makes the picture too bright). < 1464152318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you reply to the reply, to set the record straight? < 1464152331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by record I mean VHS/DVD combo. < 1464152389 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I did not write a reply < 1464153093 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ugh*, Macrovision. Had to remind me that that's a thing. < 1464154038 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VHS/DVD combo I have also includes a function to copy a non-Macrovisioned non-finalized DVD to VHS, although the stabilizer could still be used in this case too. < 1464154138 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if you do the recording in the way I specified, you still get the OSD and minor synchronization issues, so it is not perfect. (Digi-RGB-Plus includes commands "Synchro Start", "Synchro Stop", and "OSD Suppress", which will help to avoid these problems.) < 1464154317 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example, a recording device that accepts Digi-RGB-Plus input could include a "Synchro Record" function which is available for that input (normal record function is also available), which if activated will send "Synchro Start" and "OSD Suppress" commands, and then start recording as soon as the playback starts on the external device.) < 1464154560 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make up a Magic: the Puzzling where in order to win, it is necessary to copy Phage the Untouchable's first ability with Strionic Resonator? < 1464154644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464155185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phage the Untouchable is bad luck. (At least it seem like that to me) < 1464155235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you look up a card again? < 1464155256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Phage the Untouchable < 1464155258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phage the Untouchable \ 3BBBB \ Legendary Creature -- Avatar Minion \ 4/4 \ When Phage the Untouchable enters the battlefield, if you didn't cast it from your hand, you lose the game. \ Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature. It can't be regenerated. \ Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a player, that player lose < 1464155319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` card-by-name 'Phage the Untouchable' | tail -n+6 < 1464155322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature. It can't be regenerated. \ Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a player, that player loses the game. \ LGN-R, 10E-R, CNS-M \ \ Phage the Untouchable Avatar \ Vanguard \ 0/-5 \ Pay 1 life: Until end of turn, whenever a creature deals combat damage to you, destroy that creatu < 1464155505 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copying its first trigger with Strionic Resonator seems like an extremely unlikely thing to do, but I want to see how it can be that it is actually necessary to do that in order to win the game. < 1464155568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mindslave your opponent? < 1464155635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean in a case where it is your own Phage the Untouchable under your own control, and your own control of the trigger. < 1464155668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this is a metapuzzle. < 1464155675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: The Puzzling: The Puzzling < 1464155719 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is somewhat like the construction tasks in chess < 1464158901 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464159257 0 :jesus_27!~william@186-94-232-143.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464159571 0 :jesus_27!~william@186-94-232-143.genericrev.cantv.net PART #esoteric : < 1464159617 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a near canaima experience < 1464160090 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define isnan(x) (sizeof (x) == sizeof (float) ? __isnanf (x) \ < 1464160093 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : : sizeof (x) == sizeof (double) ? __isnan (x) \ < 1464160095 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : : __isnanl (x)) < 1464160096 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Generic in c99 < 1464160108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :päivittäinen spämmi < 1464160129 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno what that means but i'm assuming it means "how cool is that piece of c code" < 1464160176 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/päivittäinen%20spämmi i was close < 1464160332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. why i keep getting regular finnish spam (often mentioning vacuuming brands) may be beyond human comprehension. < 1464160352 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait aren't you norwegian? < 1464160369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if i were finnish it would be comprehensible, no? < 1464160389 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk maybe you're just dumb and can't read your own language < 1464160399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tror ikke det gitt. < 1464160423 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not think so given < 1464160424 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that < 1464160444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although lately i've been trying to learn how danish is pronounced. ironically the letter that seems hardest so far is "ø". < 1464160481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: something like "gee, i don't think so." < 1464160486 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you read satw? < 1464160525 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://satwcomic.com/language-lesson < 1464160532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i looked at it a few years ago but got bored before finishing the archive. < 1464160605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a big epiphany when i read in wikipedia that danish b/d/g are unvoiced (when they're stops. often they are approximants but anyone can notice _that_.) < 1464161113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464161130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: incidentally, would you know if eros ramazzotti sounds as italian accented when he sings in spanish as i'm imagining? my hobby in my new favorite restaurant is to guess which language he's singing in as they have several in both. < 1464161177 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how italian accented spanish sounds < 1464161181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1464161181 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1464161200 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know how spanish accented italian sounds < 1464161206 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also spanish accented english < 1464161211 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the other way around < 1464161213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i need a spanish speaker. < 1464161250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, they also have songs by julio iglesias and he sounds _very_ spanish. (because he is.) < 1464161269 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while for ramazzotti i have to actually pay attention to the words he uses. < 1464161408 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to learn all the languages? < 1464161502 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are 320 pixels per scanline and two clock cycles per pixel, and 240p NTSC video, then what is the clock rate? < 1464161539 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does NTSC change anything? < 1464161583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how the satw guy can think norwegian is more singing than swedish. < 1464161689 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I don't know? The analog video format must involve hblank/vblank as well as only the pixels, isn't it? < 1464161732 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows nothing < 1464161846 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Assuming the same amount of overscan typical for actual 480p video, you'd be generating a signal of about 328x262 to include the hblank/vblank time. < 1464161888 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't *exactly* half of a normal NTSC analog signal, but it's close enough that TVs should handle it (and would match typical retro consoles' implementations). < 1464161925 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come you know everything < 1464161935 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can use Wikipedia and Google quickly. < 1464161966 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach me < 1464162148 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you otherwise match NTSC signal characteristics, you'd be doing 328*262*60/1.001*2 clock cycles per second, or 10.302018 MHz. < 1464162160 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a document that says the active line duration is 52.2 microseconds (and full line duration is 63.55), so I tried some calculation to result 12.26 MHz but I am not sure if I made the calculation properly; maybe I made a messy mistake. < 1464162231 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty typical with retro consoles to fudge the signal quite a bit: analog TVs were mostly fine so long as you generated the sync signals correctly. < 1464162259 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also tended to cheat in other ways. < 1464162276 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, the NES's color sync signal was a square wave rather than a sine wave. < 1464162298 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know it makes square wave video < 1464162338 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it has 256 pixels rather than 320; PC and my own system are 320 < 1464163030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what I might have miscalculated if I have done so? < 1464163977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464164100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the last panel of today's girl genius, and wonders if aldin has met dupree... < 1464164227 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464165129 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464165245 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-064-058-101.088.064.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464165381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1464166888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464167669 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464167758 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1464168265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464168340 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlorgkvlmlbhvogt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464168770 0 :primo_!~primo@122.155.138.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464169738 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464170553 0 :primo_!~primo@122.155.138.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464171305 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464172102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464172456 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1464173299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464173304 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464176843 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464178174 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464178870 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464178933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464178959 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464179153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Rjozefowicz 5* 10New user account < 1464180174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ANItka14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47060 5* 03Rjozefowicz 5* (+912) 10Created page with "'''ANItka lang''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] designed by [[Radoslaw J]]. It was developed on the spur of the moment for author's girlfriend Anita. ANItka lan was..." < 1464180218 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How romantic. < 1464180234 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47061&oldid=47058 5* 03Rjozefowicz 5* (+13) 10 < 1464180306 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a brainfuck derivative. Maybe that wasn't quite the right word, then. < 1464180341 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck ♥ < 1464180591 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the latest xkcd funny? < 1464181214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ANItka14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47062&oldid=47060 5* 03Rjozefowicz 5* (+138) 10 < 1464181428 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_B%C3%B6sendorfer_%28piano%29#Extra_keys => whoa, so there's a piano that has extra keys so it can play bass sounds a quint *lower* than a regular piano, and this was requested by a musician who wanted to adapt a solo *violin* piece to a piano. < 1464181434 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it only me, or does that sound crazy? < 1464183018 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was ahead of his time < 1464183054 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many forms of modern music use super low bass < 1464183065 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he would have loved dubstep < 1464183608 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464184221 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464184957 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i find my mac with ip? :| < 1464184989 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that idiot who came up with ip as a name for a command < 1464184993 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ungooglable < 1464185931 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but plain "ip addr" reports the link-level addresses as well. < 1464185954 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the built-in usage instructions are pretty guessable. < 1464186002 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ip -f link addr show dev X" if you want to be all specific w.r.t. only showing that, and for a particular interface. < 1464186260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $$ < 1464186288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :290 < 1464186298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $$ < 1464186302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :290 < 1464186311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is quite big... < 1464186331 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo $$ < 1464186333 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :25481 < 1464186335 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i win < 1464186378 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's not impressive for any system that's been running for a while < 1464186399 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok :'( < 1464186401 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: but Hackego just booted... and needs to spawn 289 processes before that shell? < 1464186411 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the UML booted, of course) < 1464186545 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: would PID randomisation not affect that? < 1464186573 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $$ < 1464186575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :290 < 1464186577 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so random < 1464186582 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1464186584 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how it works < 1464186598 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :A PID doesn't change during the lifetime of the process < 1464186613 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're different processes < 1464186615 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :but PID randomisation would give it a non-sequential PID when it starts < 1464186626 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $SECONDS < 1464186629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1464186631 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $SECONDS < 1464186633 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $SECONDS < 1464186633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1464186636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1464186646 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, interesting < 1464186660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see that HackEgo is slowing down again < 1464186672 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sh -c 'echo $$'; sh -c 'echo $$' < 1464186674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :296 \ 297 < 1464186685 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not very random. < 1464186692 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, there's definitely no randomisation going on there < 1464186708 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder what it's being hosted on < 1464186793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` uname -a < 1464186794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1464186808 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a user mode linux, and that's more or less all you need to know < 1464187068 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, is UML entirely isolated from the parent system? < 1464187096 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not sharing the parent's /proc, etc. < 1464187308 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in principle it's its own kernel... but of course there are ways to share resources, and code will still run on the same processor... so you have the usual cache sidechannels and perhaps CPU bugs/backdoors for privilege escalation. < 1464187348 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1464187380 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as for sharing resources, there's a hostfs file system to map host directories into the client, for example.) < 1464187920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and a character device / file descriptor of the UML process mapping as well. < 1464187952 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The umlbox sandbox uses that and a custom multiplexing scheme to communicate. < 1464188087 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think that was [character device in the UML] <-> [two pipes in the host process]. < 1464188125 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is possible to attach UML serial lines and consoles to many types of host I/O channels -- to host ptys, ttys, file descriptors, and ports." < 1464188708 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting < 1464188848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the file descriptor approach, you set them up before starting the kernel, and it will direct writes to write into one of the descriptors, and reads to read from the other. < 1464188858 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1464188864 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender| < 1464188910 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1464189512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464189588 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps | paste < 1464189593 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ps aux | paste < 1464189636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.12734 < 1464189641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.26849 < 1464189727 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :That jump from 77 to 281... < 1464189767 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly short-lived kernel threads relevant for boot-time activities? < 1464189777 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1464189784 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :281 is still a kernel level process. < 1464189790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464189798 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :And assuming process ID doesn't overflow, nothing should run before kernel modules? < 1464189807 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than init (PID 1) < 1464189848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's init as 285, 286, 287 as well, which probably indicates something about the chronology. < 1464189901 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, having that implicit [Nn]ooodl rewrite as part of bin/` is just *so silly*. < 1464189974 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1464189976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1464189980 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh huh < 1464189996 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1464189997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; < 1464190060 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl < 1464190061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl < 1464190067 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on. < 1464190068 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodl < 1464190069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodl < 1464190073 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more like it. < 1464190596 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464190659 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole development environment is down because three drives failed at the same time < 1464190673 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:15c5:b0a2:bd6e:a955:c69b JOIN :#esoteric < 1464190697 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wear leveling seems to have been too level < 1464190722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: um, which development environment where? < 1464190732 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at my work < 1464190762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im slacking off because there is nothing to do < 1464190813 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except wait for somebody in californua to fix the raid < 1464190844 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see < 1464190915 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:15c5:1173:6390:7ea6:8495 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464190923 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1464191083 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohGod it says we wont be up untio after lunch... in CALIFORNIA < 1464191114 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i bother coming into work < 1464191118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: whoa... did they say a more specific time than "lunch"? < 1464191131 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1464191135 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1464191159 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just means the sysadmins who gave the info will be so busy restoring they won't be eating their lunch in time, and it won't be ready till next morning, probably < 1464191351 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe raids shpuld ve programmed with wear unlevelling < 1464191451 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they wont fail all at once even if all tye disks are[from the same manufacturer < 1464192017 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464192375 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464192394 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464193143 0 :bender!~bender@59.189.182.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464193260 0 :bender|!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464193605 0 :noloveinwaikiki!uid156554@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-idyqzfydwinsyasn JOIN :#esoteric < 1464193872 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ewprbeodguihnzol JOIN :#esoteric < 1464193882 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464194114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464194362 0 :earendel2!~earendel@176.3.30.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464194389 0 :earendel2!~earendel@176.3.30.234 QUIT :Quit: earendel2 < 1464194773 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghg < 1464195195 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464196270 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464196709 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464198082 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464198108 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've made a new version of med (i tested it in a terminal, too) < 1464198115 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it works better < 1464198399 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464198859 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i found a much simpler way to insert lines to a file, sed's i operation < 1464198881 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you have to escape any newline < 1464198897 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, but the input is from a argument < 1464198911 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have newlines there < 1464198911 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people should do that on there own < 1464198940 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus im pretty sure i puts in the newline... < 1464198944 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the examples i saw < 1464199155 0 :bender!~bender@59.189.182.141 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464200260 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.com/raw/0Hzsmpn7 < 1464200271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-25 17:17:38 URL:http://pastebin.com/raw/0Hzsmpn7 [916] -> "0Hzsmpn7" [1] < 1464200283 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv 0Hzsmpn7 bin/med < 1464200295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200296 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/med < 1464200299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200300 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464200302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/med: line 46: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464200310 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix bin/med < 1464200314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200317 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464200318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200334 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rr bin/med 1 3 < 1464200335 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#Rewritten by hand \ #info on lines 2 4 9 15 20 26.. continued on line 2 \ #32 38 < 1464200418 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be in working order < 1464200585 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med dl bin/med 2 < 1464200586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200588 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464200589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200593 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rr bin/med 1 3 < 1464200595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#Rewritten by hand \ #info on lines 2 4 9 15 20 26.. continued on line 2 \ #32 38 < 1464200597 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :case $1 in rl) ........ ;; rr) ....... < 1464200598 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464200620 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med dl bin/med 2 < 1464200623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 4: extra characters after command < 1464200629 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?... < 1464200629 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough arguments to @. < 1464200653 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wrote 4{NUM} instead of ${NUM} < 1464200656 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a one char typo < 1464200659 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed < 1464200692 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to copy it over by hand due to issues < 1464200817 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.com/raw/RpzQ6JGr < 1464200819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-05-25 17:26:50 URL:http://pastebin.com/raw/RpzQ6JGr [916] -> "RpzQ6JGr" [1] < 1464200834 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv RpzQ6JGr bin/med < 1464200835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `RpzQ6JGr bin/med' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464200842 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv RpzQ6JGr bin/med < 1464200844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200848 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dos2unix bin/med < 1464200850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200854 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/med < 1464200858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200875 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rr testcmd 1 2 < 1464200876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200881 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rr testcmd 1 2 < 1464200881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ $2 >> $3 \ Because we do, tsweet < 1464200891 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med dl testcmd 1 < 1464200897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200902 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testcmd < 1464200902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because we do, tsweet < 1464200910 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1464200939 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med dl bin/med 2 < 1464200942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200957 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il bin/med 1 ' #info on lines 2 4 9 15 20 26.. continued on line 3' < 1464200960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464200970 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rr bin/med 1 3 < 1464200972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#Rewritten by hand \ #info on lines 2 4 9 15 20 26.. continued on line 3 \ #32 38 < 1464200975 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464200980 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1464201010 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i should write in a replace command < 1464201061 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :SlexualTransElf < 1464201075 0 :SlexualTransElf!?@? NICK :SlexualTransElfr < 1464201083 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464201109 0 :SlexualTransElfr!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464201228 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... < 1464201471 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` copy < 1464201472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: copy: command not found < 1464201479 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i make a copy of a file? < 1464201502 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bin/med > tmp/medexp < 1464201504 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201548 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il tmp/medexp 44 'if [ "$1" == "ol" ]; then #override next line' < 1464201550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201589 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\t is the excape code for tab right? < 1464201629 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea it is < 1464201656 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il tmp/medexp 45 '\t NUM="$3"' < 1464201660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201690 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/medexp | sed "45!d" < 1464201691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201709 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didnt it output? < 1464201713 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/medexp | sed -p "45!d" < 1464201714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: invalid option -- 'p' \ Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ < 1464201758 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/medexp | sed - "45p" < 1464201760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `-' < 1464201764 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/medexp | sed "45p" < 1464201765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201767 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464201812 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/medexp | sed "45p" > tempcmd < 1464201816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201816 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tempcmd < 1464201817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201826 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tempcmd < 1464201826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201829 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464201850 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url tmp/medexp < 1464201854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository. < 1464201875 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv tmp/medexp medexp < 1464201876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `tmp/medexp medexp' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464201881 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/medexp medexp < 1464201884 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/medexp': No such file or directory < 1464201890 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464201902 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rl tmp/medexp 45 < 1464201903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464201929 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant interact with it fizie < 1464201933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this tmp-commit interaction is great < 1464201963 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1464201992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My suggestion is that you just don't write med. < 1464202016 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kinda useful already :P < 1464202139 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't really think about it not being web-visible while in tmp. < 1464202192 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand it may sound very controversial, but my general suggestion is to do development locally and just `fetch the final product, if it's anything more complicated than three reasonable lines. < 1464202237 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, im ding that now :P < 1464202266 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I want to read through all those commands, but "bin/med > tmp/medexp" doesn't make a copy of bin/med -- it writes bin/med's *output* to that file. < 1464202296 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :('cp' is the copy parallel of 'mv'.) < 1464202306 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464202390 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, woops < 1464202422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1464202424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at that mess. < 1464202450 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sorry* < 1464202466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you doing this? < 1464202499 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well im done for now < 1464202511 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tempcmd < 1464202528 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv tempcmd tmp/tempcmd < 1464202534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `tempcmd tmp/tempcmd' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464202563 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk tmp/tempcmd//testt \n test < 1464202566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/tempcmd < 1464202572 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tempcmd < 1464202572 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202583 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/tempcmd < 1464202584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testt \n test < 1464202590 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a newline. < 1464202599 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i should honestly stop for now, i realized that < 1464202618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should honestly stop and honestly not start. < 1464202624 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm tempcmd testcmd # let's clean up a little < 1464202628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all a mess. < 1464202676 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well med is done < 1464202742 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il tmp/testcmd 'Testing' < 1464202743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/testcmd: No such file or directory \ sed: can't find label for jump to `estinga' < 1464202753 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``???? < 1464202754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `????: not found < 1464202767 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1464202768 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't put in the number. < 1464202788 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il tmp/testcmd 1 'Testing' < 1464202789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202798 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/testcmd < 1464202799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202804 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464202835 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med il tmp/testcmd 1 'Testing....' < 1464202837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202841 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/testcmd < 1464202842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464202844 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1464202854 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give up for now < 1464202942 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thought you had tested it.) < 1464202961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It made me kind of wonder how all that "cat foo | something > foo" could possibly work. < 1464202975 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1464203023 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat foo =operation's output> operation =final output> foo < 1464203038 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's not going to work at least on bash. < 1464203053 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dl works. < 1464203055 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The output redirection "> foo" makes foo empty before cat reads it in. < 1464203063 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1464203068 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well damnit < 1464203111 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's why izabera's sed thing used that temporary file.) < 1464203128 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "$2" | sed "${NUM}d" > $out; "$out" > foo # what abut this? < 1464203151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$out" > foo tries to *execute* $out. < 1464203164 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464203175 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be kidding me < 1464203211 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464203258 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*doesnt wana ask, but kinda has to* can you fix it for me? im facedesking over here < 1464203293 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much are you paying < 1464203346 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i might just make the base of med a c program, with a bash wrapper < 1464203392 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i dont understand how i would use the filesystem in hackego, i was told it doesnt work < 1464203394 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as you don't make it support only files up to a fixed size. < 1464203412 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KK, ill see what i can do < 1464203433 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ will do better there < 1464203457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you just don't write med at all < 1464203527 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hackego's output buffer size limit? < 1464203535 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the limit of how large a string can be in irc < 1464203546 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's|> "$2"|> /tmp/med.tmp \&\& mv /tmp/med.tmp "$2"|' bin/med < 1464203549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464203553 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might've fixed it. Or it might've not. < 1464203614 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok its 256 chars < 1464203626 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds unlikely. < 1464203643 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked it up < 1464203666 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the limit of how large a string can be in IRC, at least. < 1464203674 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be HackEgo's output limit, for all I know. < 1464203678 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1464203696 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you check hackego's output limit? i need to know it so i can put it in the defines < 1464203709 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you need to know that? < 1464203722 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so med can tell the user when something is too long < 1464203805 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'for ($i = 10; $i < 600; $i += 10) { printf "%010d", $i; }' < 1464203806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000100000000020000000003000000000400000000050000000006000000000700000000080000000009000000001000000000110000000012000000001300000000140000000015000000001600000000170000000018000000001900000000200000000021000000002200000000230000000024000000002500000000260000000027000000002800000000290000000030000000003100000000320000000033000000003400000000350 < 1464203819 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like around 350 bytes. < 1464203845 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the exact number < 1464203864 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also right there in the sources. < 1464203982 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the exact limit is actually "if the output is valid UTF-8, then 350 characters, but further upper-bounded by the IRC line length; otherwise 350 bytes", the latter of which will probably always fit on an IRC line. < 1464204307 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464204350 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why i suddenly decided to golf a bit of code, i have no idea: case "ap":if(argc==3){file+=data2} < 1464204374 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... why not remove the "{}"? < 1464204496 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot i didnt need them :P < 1464204750 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :'if' is pretty extravagant. < 1464204763 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :case"ap":argc==3&&file+=data2. < 1464204929 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan * oerjan wonders if aldin has met dupree... <-- or heard of Skifander? < 1464204929 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464205008 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even knw that was valid < 1464205031 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im not golfing, i just randomly golfed a piece of code for no reason < 1464205691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464205793 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: well, I don't consider it a good idea < 1464205819 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, i undid it < 1464205841 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: using "&&" relies on the specifics about boolean "ands" < 1464205849 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which do not make for understandable code < 1464206125 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464206847 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``med < 1464206851 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med < 1464206866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `med: not found < 1464206866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464207125 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464208157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fold14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47063&oldid=47059 5* 03Moon 5* (+336) 10Added a minimal example and its Haskell equivalent < 1464208217 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 updates in 3 months... moonslayer is progressing so slowly... < 1464208248 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464208298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: no relation, it's a webcomic < 1464208304 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I can say that you're practically lucky... a whole 10 updates in 3 months? < 1464208318 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://moonslayer.monicang.com/ < 1464208388 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e what do you think of fold? < 1464208416 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1464208439 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well, i guess the origami tape is a start, at least < 1464208465 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(suffice it to say that the easiest way to enjoy MT in my experience is to read through it in one big archive trawl, then wait a year or so to let your mind lose the plot, and repeat. Otherwise you'll just eventually forget to keep an eye on it...) < 1464208478 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(YMMV.) < 1464208518 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :MT? < 1464208521 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: what do you think of the idea of a folding tape? :P < 1464208579 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind comes up with MegaTokyo, and I'm hoping that's not it. < 1464208607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Moon Town, hmm < 1464208614 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol get out of my town < 1464208742 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently the comic turned into a graphic novel and then a novel < 1464208769 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cf. http://steveogden.com/moontown/comic/moon-town-2012/ ) < 1464208790 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$>#&@ this is a infinite incrementer, acting like [0,1..] the Haskell equivalent to it < 1464208817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: you may find common references to the celestial body whose name you chose as your nick. < 1464208829 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that :P < 1464208934 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Why are you hoping MegaTokyo's not it? (Mind, it's back onto a semi-regular-ish-maybe update schedule. Looking at the last 3's dates - I haven't kept an eye on it for a while - 10 to 15 days, so probably 6 to 9 in 3 months...) < 1464208955 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because it's notoriously shit? < 1464209049 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Well personally I want to forget that I used to read it. < 1464209116 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin < 1464209119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin < 1464209122 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is getting interesting... at what point did you decide this? < 1464209154 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since there are so many well-drawn comics with good stories (and plenty of less well drawn comics with good stories) out there now. < 1464209550 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :looooool megatokyo has a $300k kickstarter for a visual novel that's two years overdue < 1464209568 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly that's almost reasonable in a world where star citizen exists < 1464209680 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464212098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464213445 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1464213671 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-stvzihxsvzrnnrkz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464215179 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just pushed 5741 new commits on github < 1464215376 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION worked hard < 1464215419 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg identify -n < 1464215426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8163 < 1464215434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that the thing, hmm. < 1464215460 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it is. < 1464215466 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's unfair < 1464215473 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are already commits < 1464215496 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i created those 5k commits myself in the last 30 min < 1464215505 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true; do ...? < 1464215516 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no <.< < 1464215564 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@2602:306:b816:27a0:508a:919e:dba4:ed98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464215565 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a bot in #bash and i wrote a script to convert its factoids to a git repo with the right date <.< < 1464215569 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and author < 1464215573 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the things < 1464215632 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i put it in an organization and now it doesn't count in my github commit graph :C < 1464216883 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464217044 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464217096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464217098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious evil cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464217113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/evil/kind/' wisdom/oerjan < 1464217119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464217164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's experiment with tmp/. < 1464217240 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread that as TAP. < 1464217249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo one > tmp/test < 1464217251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464217254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/test share/test < 1464217256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464217257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/test': No such file or directory < 1464217260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/test < 1464217261 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: share/test: No such file or directory < 1464217263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/test < 1464217265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/test: No such file or directory < 1464217270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | head -n1 < 1464217279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` sed -i \'s/evil/kind/\' wisdom/oerjan < 1464217285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo one > tmp/test < 1464217285 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464217300 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that makes sense, as much as it can. < 1464217300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp tmp/test share/test < 1464217304 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464217307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/test < 1464217308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1464217311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm share/test < 1464217313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464217325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tmp/test < 1464217326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464217340 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all so logical, yet strange. < 1464217342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, using tmp/, a command can figure out whether it's running for the first or second time. < 1464217355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there are probably a few things we could fix that way. < 1464217370 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's been done, though I forget exactly how. < 1464217384 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easier with tmp/, of course. < 1464217420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I forgot about that interpretation of every string that ends with a /. < 1464217443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does mail/ work these days? < 1464217446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1464217447 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Wed May 25 23:04:06 2016 < 1464217456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not the right time to ask. < 1464217464 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what it would be. Something else than m/? < 1464217470 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, same thing. < 1464217490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point it wasn't working and I think I submitted a CL to fix it though I'm not sure anymore. < 1464217497 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I've always just used the short thing. < 1464217555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out about the short thing too late. < 1464217575 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently I've been infiltrating the downstairs folks who work on TTS. < 1464217576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What do you do about URLs like that not supporting https? twh < 1464217598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/W/w/ s/URL/url/ < 1464217660 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. I know I put in all go/ links via https://goto. and so on. < 1464217683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do? < 1464217693 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do, though I don't think people generally bother. < 1464217734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean goto. as a TLD or goto and then a domain name? < 1464217747 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goto and a domain name. < 1464217774 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, that was a bit ambiguous. < 1464218691 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464219260 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464219457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464220121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464220215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1464220215 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 4h 14m 45s ago: * oerjan wonders if aldin has met dupree... <-- or heard of Skifander? < 1464220261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e ooh, good idea. i was just thinking that since Tarvek had similar experience... < 1464220261 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464220292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :james james / morrison morrison / weatherby george dupree < 1464220403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why are you slandering me in wisdom that's EVIL < 1464220422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...clearly you are trying to push me off the evil throne < 1464220456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :being retired, you can't do a thing about it hth < 1464220485 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you see the part where "mv tmp/foo some_nonignored_path" is equivalent to "rm tmp/foo"? I liked that part. < 1464220504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fancy < 1464220513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious in retrospect < 1464220526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if some_nonignored_path already exists? < 1464220545 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think then also. < 1464220546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the behavior would be the same. < 1464220562 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely did not think of it when suggesting to do things in tmp/ and then move them to a persistent place when ready. < 1464220571 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was not a sneaky plan to cause discord. < 1464220592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/kind/sneaky/ wisdom/oerjan < 1464220619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that is a completely plausible and not suspicious clarification. < 1464220619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464220644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your last statement has undertones of sarcasm < 1464220657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you keep it up, i may have to link to tvtropes (&| allthetropes) < 1464220657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beep boop I am a robot. < 1464220674 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evil thronw < 1464220675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil thronw? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464220675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can't tell whether it was a sneaky fizzie plan to cause discord. < 1464220677 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? evil throne < 1464220678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil throne? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464220695 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grep throne wisdom/* < 1464220708 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1464220709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan used to be on the evil throne < 1464220709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: pating bedoop? < 1464220713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep throne wisdom/* < 1464220714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then he was evil overthrone < 1464220723 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nh < 1464220723 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1464220726 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1464220726 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1464220726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464220732 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What are thrones good for? < 1464220732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1464220732 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: vampires hate garlic. go-daigo eventually escaped and established the emperor komyo on the floor. ( the tyger, by michael flanders) of lahmu and lahamu. anshar is mentioned in the dungeon while wearing a closely fitting robe with only his hands free. < 1464220733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'all ought to use rgrep instead instead of grep wisdom/* < 1464220748 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wonder how the evilness of a throne would manifest itself < 1464220760 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1464220761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1464220765 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it would fail to be there the moment somebody tries to sit on it < 1464220824 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So Anshar sat on a throne? < 1464220824 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eating a yeti. peace and quiet boy, and kill him. " it is among the captains of the bush there came a low hiss a horrid cold sound that made rikki-tikki jump back two clear feet. then inch by inch out of those unwary enough to allow the lovely sweet taste to spread out, and secretly covets moloch's position. moloch doesn't trust him, then gradually changes color until it is among the weaker of demons, wallows in filth a < 1464220845 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very graphic. < 1464220872 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeti < 1464220873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are not the yetis you are looking for. < 1464220950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: were you being sneaky or not < 1464220971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you were < 1464220974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1464220975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1464220995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/k/sneaky k/' wisdom/fizzie < 1464220997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464221004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i s/sneaky/kind/ wisdom/oerjan < 1464221008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464221018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn evil throne/The evil throne belongs to oerjan, when he's not being overthrone. He rarely sits on it, though, since that time it tried to eat him. < 1464221021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «evil throne» < 1464221022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1464221031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn evil throne/The evil throne belongs to oerjan, when he's not being overthrone. He rarely sits on it, though, since that time it tried to eat him. < 1464221034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «evil throne» < 1464221041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always mixing up the space dogmas < 1464221051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spogmas < 1464221248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i figure i cannot swat you for a pun i end up stealing hth < 1464221270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I gave you that pun in a half-finished state. < 1464221281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to make it work grammatically but I didn't figure out how. < 1464221307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1464221341 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone < 1464221344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1464221366 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? throne sex < 1464221368 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :throne sex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464221375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1464221387 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo *sex* < 1464221387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of a play i was in once < 1464221388 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone sex sex < 1464221392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sex < 1464221393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on the author's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1464221407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the line was "the poisoner mounts the throne", and i played the part of the throne < 1464221443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you eat the poisoner twh < 1464221445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464221448 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep 'rone$' share/dict-words | xargs < 1464221450 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gaborone Tyrone chaperone crone dethrone drone enthrone krone minestrone progesterone prone testosterone throne < 1464221520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you will note that Taneb did not invent it hth < 1464221526 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep 'gry$' share/dict-words | xargs < 1464221528 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :angry demagogry hungry < 1464221542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :demagogry! of course < 1464221551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't think that happens in that play hth < 1464221598 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.merriam-webster.com/help/faq-third-common-gry-word lacks demagogry, but has a number of others. < 1464221630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xkcd.com/169/ < 1464221638 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464221656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helping the inevitable along. uhoily. < 1464221663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thoht it was spelt demagogury? < 1464221687 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail share/dict-words < 1464221691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` tail share/dict-words < 1464221694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​élan's \ émigré \ émigré's \ émigrés \ épée \ épée's \ épées \ étude \ étude's \ études < 1464221712 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helløœΩrjan! < 1464221713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible < 1464221716 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible < 1464221720 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :false! é is not a letter in English words! < 1464221722 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '^demagog' share/dict-words | xargs < 1464221725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option \ demagog < 1464221735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did we learn that serious physical violence is the solution to mild linguistic frustration < 1464221738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, shouldn't have tried to fancy. < 1464221741 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '^demagog' share/dict-words < 1464221742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :demagog \ demagog's \ demagogic \ demagogry \ demagogs \ demagogue \ demagogue's \ demagoguery \ demagoguery's \ demagogues \ demagogy \ demagogy's < 1464221753 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like the backslashes. < 1464221756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's the kind of message black hat guy would approve of. < 1464221778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1464221786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can undestand not wanting to be around linguists < 1464221809 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hé\\orén\. what about "résumé" and "pâté"? < 1464221813 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the it's-language explanation works much better with the other wording. < 1464221831 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Think of three words ending in -gry. Angry and hungry are two of them. There are only three words in the English language. What is the third word?" < 1464221842 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :language. < 1464221849 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you mean resume and pate < 1464221883 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION diacrithwacks \oren\ < 1464221931 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like our French cousins who say "patte" and "pâte" the same way. diacritics are there for a reason! they must be pronounced! < 1464221936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I bet you don't believe in multiocular o, either. < 1464221983 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They forgot the word "burgry". < 1464221987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that xargs default looks very unhelpful. < 1464221992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: They don't speak French in \oren\'s country. < 1464221993 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know—"with burger", "full of burger". < 1464222037 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "lagry". < 1464222042 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '^demagog' share/dict-words | fmt -w350 < 1464222044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :demagog demagog's demagogic demagogry demagogs demagogue demagogue's demagoguery demagoguery's demagogues demagogy demagogy's < 1464222125 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "swaggry". < 1464222149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people don't care for my rhetoric because of my accent. but when i speak in deir dialect, it leaves dem agog < 1464222160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^ < 1464222176 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks shachaf. 0.95 shachafs < 1464222186 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "th" and "th" sounds in english are absent in a lot of languages < 1464222225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thrue. < 1464222230 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible. < 1464222275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn agog < 1464222276 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "agog" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1464222276 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :agog < 1464222276 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: highly excited < 1464222299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buggry! < 1464222349 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn magog < 1464222351 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "magog". < 1464222378 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could have sworn there was some sort of place called "magog" < 1464222392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i'm not sure i agry to that word < 1464222402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: gog and magog are in the bible iirc < 1464222458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where Jafet's gone. < 1464222511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I know, I saw it in one of those conspiracy theory videos on youtube < 1464222529 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many languages even have dental fricatives? < 1464222534 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gog is the EU and magog is China < 1464222564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: We can be sure that Molvanian doesn't. < 1464222571 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: there's a Magog in Québec, and a Lac Memphrémagog. < 1464222624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the apocalypse will come, not as a war, but a hockey riot that ends the universe < 1464222624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet was a champion at amused detachment. < 1464222829 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the maple leafs defeat the canadiens and secure the stanley cup, the earth will shudder to a halt, and burning police cars will rain from orbit! < 1464222887 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll teach them to make fun of Canada! < 1464222903 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as I root for the Leafs, and as much as the Habs just plain suck, I highly doubt it'll ever happen hth < 1464222918 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doesn't mean it won't be fun if it ever does!) < 1464222935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: icelandic, spanish, greek at least. < 1464223001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that only in spanish spanish? < 1464223003 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish doesn't have th? < 1464223008 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjouroily < 1464223016 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not when I learned it < 1464223020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah yes. the unvoiced one. < 1464223041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it's not in latin american spanish, usually. < 1464223053 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1464223064 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppronsoir! < 1464223156 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1464223857 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d021:3311:25e4:877a JOIN :#esoteric < 1464223963 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464224616 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464224993 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1464225042 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1464225221 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464225883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: I didn't really think about it not being web-visible while in tmp. <-- i did, that's why i fixed `url to notice. `paste should still work although of course copies. < 1464226707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464226736 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious kind cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464226753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/kind/adjectival/' wisdom/oerjan < 1464226759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464227229 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1464227231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1464227263 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is about to outlength me! 'tis unacceptable! < 1464227287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wc wisdom/{oerjan,boily} < 1464227290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 45 291 wisdom/oerjan \ 1 44 292 wisdom/boily \ 2 89 583 total < 1464227302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no panicking < 1464227374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's not my fault that shachaf keeps adding stuff. < 1464227386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/oerjan < 1464227398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: < 1464227398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan oerjan int-e shachaf shachaf shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan shachaf oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull shachaf shachaf ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf shachaf nitia < 1464227435 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1464227439 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1464227455 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is canadia < 1464227470 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warm and humid. < 1464227474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1464227474 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 260000Z 31010KT 15SM FEW050TCU SCT240 23/12 A2998 RMK TCU1CI2 SLP155 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1464227491 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCU indeed. < 1464227496 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1464227497 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 252352Z 18007KT 10SM SCT250 28/12 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP208 T02780122 10306 20278 55003 < 1464227536 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not there < 1464227582 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KFNL < 1464227582 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KFNL 260035Z AUTO 14007KT 10SM CLR 22/06 A2992 RMK AO1 < 1464227602 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is disturbingly west! < 1464227622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/He can[^.]*./Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead./' wisdom/oerjan < 1464227626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464227630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464227631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464227639 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more antipodal than usual < 1464227661 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to ride < 1464227676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie shachaf: I didn't really think about it not being web-visible while in tmp. <-- i did, that's why i fixed `url to notice. `paste should still work although of course copies. < 1464227676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464227703 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464227743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1464227743 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 252350Z 09005KT 360V110 9999 BKN034 06/02 Q1026 RMK WIND 670FT 07005KT < 1464227782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither warm nor humid, at the moment. < 1464228836 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonnuitopia, børjanne nuit! < 1464228849 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( hmm... how can I bonne nuit shachaf... ) < 1464228862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppronne nuit! < 1464228868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TRAFFIC CHICKEN < 1464228994 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464230249 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'The important thing is to not stop questioning.istioning.ispioning.ostioning.istioning.istioning.ist' < 1464230669 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'Thesio.oiiiiuoiioiioioioii.iis.oiioiipiissoooiiigpoiipioiigsiiugo oipogiiiiiiiiiie iiiiipiemiiiiiioe' < 1464231602 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1464231757 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464232281 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again I am cursed to watch ion engines run for hours on end < 1464232307 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nuclear engines < 1464232320 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVE? < 1464232355 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSP < 1464232423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to perform a burn of 1400 m/s with a engine that accelerates at 0.5 m/s^2 < 1464232507 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case it's only 40 minutes but still < 1464232899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the mistake of sending out 6 probes of the same design, with nuclear engines... < 1464232924 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak, tiny ones < 1464233668 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464233804 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d021:3311:25e4:877a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464234505 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464234743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47064 5* 0371.202.114.203 5* (+2013) 10Described a programming language I invented. < 1464235528 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464235989 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1464236146 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464236246 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464237942 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1464237978 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464238784 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to pause a program at a particular point and save it as an executable? < 1464238822 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not without a *lot* of hacks. < 1464238918 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1464239171 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464239285 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@2602:306:b816:27a0:508a:919e:dba4:ed98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464239288 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464239987 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxzqpiyqfotvhsab JOIN :#esoteric < 1464240320 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464240398 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@2001:999:32:15c5:b0a2:bd6e:a955:c69b QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464240405 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1464240863 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464242854 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464243106 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464243648 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464244866 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :kernigh < 1464244868 0 :kernigh!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464246423 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:8cda:39ce:8a3b:10f1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464246738 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:8cda:39ce:8a3b:10f1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464247294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, obligatory swimsuit episode < 1464247360 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464248824 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Wat < 1464249650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've been editing instead of adding lately. < 1464249849 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: there used to be, but these days operating system and runtime state of programs got much more complicated, so it usually doesn't work. < 1464249927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: so it's possible only if you control what your program does, but that involves lots of things including internal details of the libc < 1464249933 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the keyword to look for is undump < 1464249940 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ewprbeodguihnzol QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464250090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: "lately" < 1464250168 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently sascatchewan was planning to (and perhaps did) kill free speech in march < 1464250180 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing it can't affect anything real, given that it's a made-up place < 1464250269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464250316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464250380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\./ lately./' wisdom/oerjan < 1464250387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad that trick doesn't work on logreaders. < 1464250533 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, he's got updated text < 1464250555 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/o[ex]r[jt]a[np] < 1464250567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464250591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log | grep summary: | grep amortized < 1464250602 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` sed -i \'s/He can[^.]*./Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead./\' wisdom/oerjan \ summary: learn An amortized word is a word that oerjan can never remember. \ summary: learn_append oerjan He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1464250624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed that. < 1464250626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1464253854 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oerjan# is just a lame copy of fungot < 1464253854 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: they say that a potion of healing can cancel a potion of sickness. fear would have been wiped off the tree, and one of his face and his sword-blade was stained black. it has the power to protect the wearer's view sense into the base, two! and through and through and through the torso. the glare from the third time, at night. < 1464254034 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found the official list of Acceptable Venezuelan Pranks < 1464254048 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No mention of #esoteric or canaima < 1464256665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Pallinger 5* 10New user account < 1464256721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Anguish14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47065 5* 03Pallinger 5* (+443) 10Anguish language summary and link to definition and interpreter < 1464256848 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsigned int true_random_seed(void) < 1464256850 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :// return a true random seed (which depends on the time) < 1464256852 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ < 1464257148 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464257181 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1464257274 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message oerjan I tried to send a message via lambdabot and it did not work. You told me it did not work. I already knew it did not work, but not how to make it work. < 1464257274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages-loud messages? < 1464257441 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464257496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "amortized" is from latin, right? it means "beloved"? < 1464257796 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: @tell. < 1464257836 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhh < 1464257838 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1464259784 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1464259819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm undoing all my work on a code because I have to make it compatible with some other code that works completely differently < 1464259829 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the interface and implementation will change < 1464259944 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's why they say "encapsulating" is so important. does the other code really have to know how your code is doing things? < 1464259957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: both are encapsulated and have proper interfaces < 1464259978 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that their interfaces are so different that I can't just turn my code a wrapper around the other code like I wanted < 1464260002 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1464260018 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other code requires that I provide some values earlier during some process, and it supplies some other values later < 1464260028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas my code does those two things at the same time < 1464260088 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I guess the only remaining options are to either curse the other code for being different, or thank the other code for forcing a new way of thinking upon your code < 1464260415 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464260528 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464260535 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464260616 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I'm cursing the other code, yes < 1464260631 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice < 1464260931 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464261224 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464261412 0 :f10d4!~f10d4|sun@solaris.unsoft.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464262357 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464263009 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464263547 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hhdvqhgsbaqabycm QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464263597 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pmcmownjyhvwapld JOIN :#esoteric < 1464264334 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg MemoServ send Koen__ you can also send messages like this, use the `list' and `read' (see `help') commands with `MemoServ' to read. notification on identification, iirc < 1464264579 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but I'd need to be identified to send or receive messages that way < 1464265481 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, receive, anyway < 1464265487 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know about send < 1464265677 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464265948 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has a much more personal touch than MemoServ. < 1464266027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && find -iname "*laugh*" < 1464266047 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: you need to be identified to send a message as well < 1464266076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464266077 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1464266112 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot `tell' has the advantage of notifying on activity < 1464266709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: memoserv notifies when you identify to nickserv (or at connection if that's when you identify) < 1464266884 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok (as i said, then) < 1464268202 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464268443 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464268878 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && find -iname "*laugh*" && echo ZdlNKYtR < 1464268889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZdlNKYtR < 1464270044 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464270428 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywzubxslrufdizrf JOIN :#esoteric < 1464270746 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo No output. < 1464270758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464272347 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`No output. < 1464272348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464272365 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/No # spoilers < 1464272367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh < 1464272976 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( echo "$0 $@" ) < 1464274031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47066&oldid=47064 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+4) 10Linked truth-machine to its page. < 1464275254 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d5f9:ad7b:f67d:c711 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464275453 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shift -1 # too bad < 1464275463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: shift: -1: shift count out of range < 1464275470 0 :noloveinwaikiki!uid156554@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-idyqzfydwinsyasn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464276450 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464276638 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464277178 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464277849 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d5f9:ad7b:f67d:c711 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464278499 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464279184 0 :Tiktailk!~tiktalik@2607:fcd0:daaa:1400:f::4 QUIT :Changing host < 1464279184 0 :Tiktailk!~tiktalik@unaffiliated/tiktalik JOIN :#esoteric < 1464279187 0 :Tiktailk!?@? NICK :Tiktalik < 1464279676 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464280007 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo # i dont know bash syntax. will this be output? < 1464280026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464280050 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a comment. < 1464280109 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but i didnt know whether # starts a comment at the end of a line < 1464280166 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in basic rem only works at the start < 1464280239 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmmm... actually apparently in vb .net it now works anywhere in a line < 1464280313 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could have sworn that wawnt the case ij vb6 < 1464280631 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBasic allowed 'comment in-line with other statements, but not rem comments. < 1464280635 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gamma.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html#QEw4MDg0 < 1464281488 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a4ee:539f:a984:a32b JOIN :#esoteric < 1464281555 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464282062 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1464282493 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make sure to keep that in mind. < 1464285015 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464285376 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a4ee:539f:a984:a32b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464285606 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464285980 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464286008 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464286115 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464287038 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464287461 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464287681 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464291829 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464292710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Natemara 5* 10New user account < 1464292819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bugmaker14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47067&oldid=24852 5* 03Natemara 5* (+114) 10/* Gotchas */ < 1464293753 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-76-188-133-45.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464294410 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464295004 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464295011 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo. < 1464295524 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1464295534 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who u? < 1464295614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stapler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47068&oldid=40269 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+34) 10formatting < 1464295633 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dude who made https://bitbucket.org/little-bit/zeno < 1464295656 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you? < 1464295815 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live here < 1464295821 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Quintopia < 1464296122 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1464296559 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what's zeno? < 1464296797 0 :zenobit!~tomkl@unaffiliated/tomkl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464296819 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1464296838 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see you're dodging the questions then < 1464296899 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zenobit lost connection before you asked, judging by the ping timeout < 1464296947 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :estimate... 21:02:17. < 1464296973 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. Leaves the opportunity that the client disappeared the moment it received your message, but... < 1464296978 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes koen? < 1464297284 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1464297303 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little tired and looking forward to a boring month of june < 1464297366 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1464297961 0 :augur!~augur@50.242.94.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464299489 0 :zgrep_!zgrep@zgrep.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464300592 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pmcmownjyhvwapld QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464300631 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ptnnmykbkhcgsxto JOIN :#esoteric < 1464301661 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464302367 0 :zgrep_!zgrep@zgrep.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464302748 0 :zgrep_!~zgrep@zgrep.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1464302826 0 :zgrep_!~zgrep@zgrep.org QUIT :Client Quit < 1464303491 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464303502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hang on < 1464303517 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if fizzie's the king of #esoteric, why do you have the throne? < 1464303704 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oerjan could be the queen < 1464303767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is this a xanth-style usage of the words hth < 1464303772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh < 1464303829 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure what you mean by that < 1464303857 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464303893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn queen < 1464303894 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "queen" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1464303894 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :queen < 1464303894 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: the only fertile female in a colony of social insects such < 1464303894 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : as bees and ants and termites; its function is to lay eggs < 1464303894 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a female sovereign ruler [syn: {queen}, {queen regnant}, < 1464303896 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18 @more lines] < 1464303903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: i'm pretty sure i'm male < 1464304064 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464304094 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464304599 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464304684 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464304753 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464305472 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07InterpretMe14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47069 5* 0338.99.32.130 5* (+211) 10Created page with "InterpretMe is a joke language created by an anonymous user (the same user who created [[z]]). The language is as follows:
 *: run self-interpreter 
A self-interpre..." < 1464305538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47070&oldid=47061 5* 0338.99.32.130 5* (+8) 10/* Z */ < 1464305607 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464305677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47071&oldid=47051 5* 0338.99.32.130 5* (+65) 10 < 1464305762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464306016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1464306016 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1464306054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i saw your message in the logs. i have no idea what you're referring to. < 1464306098 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend not long ago < 1464306105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's been so long since you were last here that it's probably useless to check recent logs. < 1464306143 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went like so: "-what? -what? -what? -did you say something? -no. did you? -no. -ok" < 1464306237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Too bad that trick doesn't work on logreaders. <-- shocking < 1464306250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1464306251 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Fri May 27 00:44:10 2016 < 1464306260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just wake up < 1464306277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It doesn't work on you at all anymore, because I used it too much. < 1464306277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that edit wouldn't have fit well grammatically, i think. < 1464306298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true. no, i came back from the restaurant. < 1464306308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza with chicken and pesto. < 1464306310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well neither does the "Now" at the beginning of the third sentence hth < 1464306330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1464306333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464306362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Now when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464306370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i considered changing it to "Nowadays", but this all started with boily complaining it was too long... < 1464306393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1464306409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is, of course, obvious. < 1464306413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1464306421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we thought of the same solution at the same time hth < 1464306426 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/Now/Lately/' wisdom/oerjan < 1464306441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464306456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has been editing lately instead of adding < 1464306852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: "amortized" is from latin, right? it means "beloved"? <-- you may be confusing with "amatus" hth < 1464306882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the pun was meant to be about "amor" < 1464306889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was half-hearted < 1464307005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the words aren't even related, it's ad + mort- < 1464307704 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464307773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: if fizzie's the king of #esoteric, why do you have the throne? <-- just the evil throne. fizzie wisely refuses to use it. < 1464307815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `` sed -i 's/sneaky/kind sneaky/' wisdom/fizzie < 1464307829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to pile on the adjectives < 1464307847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1464307854 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1464307865 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464307869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1464307903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1464307908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even type what i meant < 1464307912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `` sed -i 's/sneaky/wise sneaky/' wisdom/fizzie < 1464307920 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure where the word "kind" came from < 1464307931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was just a kind error. < 1464307937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :must've been oerjan's kindness leaking through < 1464307960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1464307962 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your retired mysterious adjectival cackling overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1464307965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjectival? < 1464307971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -r sneaky wisdom < 1464307978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/fizzie:fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1464307984 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the itymology on that one < 1464307991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because itym kind < 1464307999 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ichtymology? < 1464308022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Ichtymology is like itymology, but even more fishy. < 1464308026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ichtymology': Ichtymology is like itymology, but even more fishy. < 1464308041 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I just officially invent a word? < 1464308044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1464308048 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1464308055 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can check that off my list < 1464308068 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where sneaky < 1464308068 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropFromEnd n xs = zipWith const xs (drop n xs) < 1464308086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that for sneaky hth < 1464308099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very sneaky. < 1464308115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :says you < 1464308117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where sneaky2 < 1464308117 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = [] < 1464308123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam < 1464308125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximum sneak < 1464308182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't go just zipWith (flip const) < 1464308199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1464308206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER MIND < 1464308231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you feeling snacky < 1464308235 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I just bought this computer that can store real numbers < 1464308241 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can I do with it? < 1464308247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, all of them? < 1464308282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm not in the right way, i think. < 1464308288 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, only a finite number of real numbers at any given time < 1464308299 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any of them < 1464308305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you mean that you want to snack rather than to be snacked < 1464308364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Even uncomputable ones? < 1464308375 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1464308389 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464308406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :el numero real < 1464308429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: just get hold of Chaitin's omega and you're in business. < 1464308511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as in, i already had some chocolate and now i might be slightly feeling the blood sugar falling again. < 1464308534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although it's tempting to eat more, it might make it worse. < 1464308543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just a tiny piece -> < 1464308547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might make it better too < 1464308552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never, like, know, man < 1464308574 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, I said store, not compute < 1464308595 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :`izabera` < 1464308601 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it could manipulate a number doesn't mean it could solve any equations of which that number is the solution < 1464308618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: darn. < 1464308663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i guess it depends on what manipulations you can do. < 1464308683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Can it store a number in constant time? < 1464308690 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1464308701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some numbers that people would be highly interested in knowing whether they are rational. < 1464308713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. e*pi < 1464308728 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an open problem? < 1464308742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Real < 1464308742 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :class (Num a, Ord a) => Real a where < 1464308742 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : toRational :: a -> Rational < 1464308749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (e*pi) < 1464308751 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: not a rational number: e * pi < 1464308751 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely some teacher would have mentioned it if it was < 1464308756 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> toRational (exp 1*pi) < 1464308757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1201860745721117 % 140737488355328 < 1464308763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1464308803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : well, only a finite number of real numbers at any given time <-- you can compress a countable number of real numbers into a single one hth < 1464308826 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464308837 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been at some unease towards real numbers for a very long time < 1464308850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yes, neither e*pi nor e+pi are known. < 1464308860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they cannot both be rational < 1464308868 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e+pi isn't known?? < 1464308878 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some obvious gaps in our maths < 1464308899 0 :`izabera`!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it's hard to prove it < 1464308990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, known whether rational or algebraic < 1464308990 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come I have never heard about that before? I have had math teachers!! < 1464309001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you can calculate just about as many digits as you like. < 1464309043 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The best-known transcendental numbers are π and e." (wikipedia) < 1464309049 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apparently we don't know a lot < 1464309066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the expected result is that every combination of e and pi that doesn't have an obvious reason to be algebraic, is transcendental. < 1464309075 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Not a typewriter < 1464309172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^pi is also known, as a consequence of being a value of i^(1/i). < 1464309178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1464309190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* (-1)^(1/i) < 1464309246 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( ) < 1464309404 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/WcGcdkZ.png :( < 1464309429 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean we only have 11 transcendental numbers so far < 1464309465 0 :`izabera`!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misread < 1464309500 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( ) < 1464309528 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Any non-constant algebraic function of a single variable yields a transcendental value when applied to a transcendental argument. For example, from knowing that π is transcendental, we can immediately deduce that numbers such as 5π, (π − 3)/√2, (√π − √3)8 and (π5 + 7)1/7 are transcendental as well." < 1464309580 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1464309633 0 :augur!~augur@50.242.94.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464309639 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this has been very interesting < 1464309642 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1464309662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ski < 1464309671 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464309675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i do a presentation about chu spaces < 1464309743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sorts of "cool chu space facts" would you talk about < 1464310137 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464310326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( if chu want ) < 1464310398 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-76-188-133-45.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464311189 0 :`izabera`!?@? NICK :izabera < 1464311964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464312129 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1464312153 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1464312258 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1464312277 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did your backticks go? < 1464312288 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gone with the wind < 1464312363 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? i've always gound it rather difficult to get rid of ticks. < 1464312409 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when they are on my back where I cant see or grab them < 1464312673 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*found < 1464312753 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fun :P < 1464312785 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464312825 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? what now? < 1464312861 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the back ticks thing <.< < 1464312876 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't complain when people find your jokes funny < 1464313051 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not complaining, judt didnt realize you were talking about that < 1464313086 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ssssh about the bad puns. i dont want oerjan to have to get out the frying pan < 1464313544 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Skipping 0 bytes of junk at 0." < 1464313628 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any favorite non-esoteric (but probably still pretty much esoteric by modern standards) macro languages? < 1464313663 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we had a m4 fan here? < 1464313675 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :m4 fans don't exist < 1464313677 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently tinkering with TRAC, SAM76, TINT (which is a sort of TRAC clone/expansion), ML/I, and SNOBOL4 (not a macro language, I know). < 1464313748 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really TRAC, SAM76, Tint, and TTM are all kinda similar, especially the first three. < 1464313771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION injects quintopia with an experimental treatment for borreliosis < 1464313772 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SAM76 and Tint are intentionally derived from TRAC. TTM looks like it is, though the papers never mention it at all.) < 1464313815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :side effects include extra appendices and rarely exploding < 1464313931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1464313933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi dnm < 1464313959 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would those extra appendices appear? < 1464313984 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hey! < 1464313985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty varied. back of the head is common. < 1464314004 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: LTNIRC < 1464314027 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How are you? < 1464314160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, y'know. < 1464314201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jamming it up. < 1464314240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you still in WA? < 1464314298 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep! < 1464314561 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm falling asleep again. < 1464314566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad schedule lately. < 1464314723 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our TTS reads "WA" in Finnish text by using the generic word pronunciation generator. I don't think that's right, but I'm not sure what *would* be. < 1464314768 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, something I learned only very recently. < 1464314821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ask Translate to read something out loud with the speaker icon, it reads first with the normal speed, but if you click on the speaker icon a second time, it does a really slowed-down thing. < 1464314882 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the idea is, if you (or whoever you're playing the result out) didn't catch it the first time, maybe trying to speak... very... slowly... will help. < 1464314981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've noticed that, it seems to toggle on each click < 1464314987 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1464315000 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it resets to normal speed if you change the text. < 1464315307 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464315457 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464315508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhoily. < 1464315537 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhellørjan. < 1464315550 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhellørjan... vhellørjan... it sounds quite nice on the tongue, eh? < 1464315557 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhellørjan < 1464315562 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪♪♪ < 1464315597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhell, maybe. < 1464315638 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhellochaf. < 1464315646 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... no. not as good. < 1464316040 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtual hell... < 1464316045 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtual hell of chat? < 1464316051 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/t\?/f?/ < 1464316081 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhzgrellop! < 1464316096 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, I won't say it. I like my tongue unknotted tyvm hth) < 1464316159 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a silent h, no? < 1464316181 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. i'm certainly not sure how to pronounce an h without a neighboring vowel. < 1464316222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a stop. < 1464316338 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464316664 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464316951 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ADMINISTRATIVE CHICKEN < 1464318071 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxzqpiyqfotvhsab QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464318324 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464318341 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywzubxslrufdizrf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464318482 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-razbcrppjmejoyex JOIN :#esoteric < 1464319439 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464319532 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464319755 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464319785 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464320833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464321729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464322034 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464323506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464323574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464327419 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464328951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464330025 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464330328 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464330473 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464330481 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, this is the missing channel :) < 1464330529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464330531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1464330582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Cale < 1464330583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464330591 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464330598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgo Cale < 1464330628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464330635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Cale | zalgo < 1464330638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ĉ҉aͤ͗l͎̽ē͚ < 1464330653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the only Haskell program left in HackEgo. < 1464330673 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/haskell < 1464330674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show"main=putStrLn$(<*>)(++)show" < 1464330693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that count as a Haskell program? < 1464330719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I get GHC 8? < 1464330731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what to think about type applications. < 1464330849 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do e.g. data T where { T :: forall a. T }? < 1464330861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of resorting to Proxy. < 1464330943 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, can you do something like (\ @t -> ...)? < 1464331135 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently we're switching to GHC 8 for our backend. < 1464331161 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I haven't yet tried it) < 1464331196 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it has a warning when you have redundant type class constraints, which will be really nice in some of the code I work on...) < 1464331418 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to learn about scones. < 1464331425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any "scone tips"? < 1464331491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it sort of defines an equivalence relation with some more structure. < 1464331539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe that's a red herring, and the real point of it is the way set elements are mapped. < 1464331661 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?p=239055 < 1464331707 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can burn out (literally) everyone's neural system with 53 points < 1464331787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scones are supersymmetric partners of cones, obviously. < 1464331829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think it stands for "Sierpinski cone" hth < 1464331884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good old sierpiński < 1464331903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sierpinski < 1464331906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sierpinski? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464331961 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: What's a point worth? < 1464332000 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: paper about scones for you, hth http://cheng.staff.shef.ac.uk/misc/cheng-cream.pdf < 1464332030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL gives it away. < 1464332033 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you mean? (for the record: I'm really not a GURPS and in general TRPG player so I'm unsure of the specifics) < 1464332059 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I understand what "burn out everyone's neural system" might mean. But I have no sense for what 53 points is. < 1464332067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464332069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a theory as to where the universe came from- basically, what caused the big bang, in a universe where nothing can't cause something < 1464332089 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah, points used to make an ability for players < 1464332102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My theory goes that there's /another/ universe where the laws of physics allows things to happen without cause < 1464332105 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that 100 points are required for "normal" characters < 1464332107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Is it a lot? Is it a little? < 1464332111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: whoa, man < 1464332117 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 53 points are not that much < 1464332118 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]'s big bong theory < 1464332122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some of the things that can happen without cause are new universes being spawned < 1464332130 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still you are fucked up with that ability < 1464332132 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1464332134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not on marijuana ATM < 1464332159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why your makefile is broken < 1464332177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I much prefer ecstasy < 1464332201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's very annoying that there's no 'x' in "ecstasy" < 1464332202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1464332491 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464332553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :contrapumpkin: what a contrarian < 1464332640 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464332865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: be careful or he might challenge you to a dual. < 1464333521 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464334303 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464335642 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464335649 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fitbit is getting sued for the heart rate sensor? < 1464335661 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why aren't they getting sued for the sleep stuff too < 1464335668 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sleep stuff is even more inaccurate . < 1464335673 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-luud < 1464335673 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 5d 12h 28m 52s ago: the Burlesque shell is moving to http://64.137.252.151/~burlesque/burlesque.cgi ... and I may need help building the cgi (currently trying...) < 1464335673 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 5d 12h 9m 50s ago: actually building the cgi seems to have worked fine (a cabal file would help though...) but you can't currently log in; please contact me about that... < 1464335688 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :) < 1464335704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: based on irc activity i suspect that contrapumpkin is self-dual < 1464335876 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell inte-e thx. I updated the link on my homepage. < 1464335876 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464335879 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1464335884 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e thx. I updated the link on my homepage. < 1464335884 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464335917 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me that the moonpage is still utterly incomplete :( < 1464335930 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just sooooo muuuch stuff that is still missing. < 1464335955 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck decided to make something with 400 builtins that on average each have like 3 variations < 1464335962 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must've been a total insane moron < 1464335980 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String a, String b: Appends a to b then reverses. < 1464335987 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that was really needed < 1464336280 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Authors' Notes: Even though r_ can auto-map this built-in won't do the same expected job because pd will calculate the product of a Block. You may however use this fact as a shortcut for example for {0r_}m[pd. If you want to round every Double to the nearest Integer in a Block use )R_." < 1464336296 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially these comments about various usages and nice-to-know thing take a lot of work < 1464336303 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/thing/things < 1464336309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnord < 1464336335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how come you didn't specify a quit message that time < 1464336345 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464336649 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh int-e even pulled the latest changes < 1464336650 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1464338818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464340227 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the Rust changelog: "The time complexity of comparing variables for equivalence during type unification is reduced from O(n!) to O(n). As a result, some programming patterns compile much, much more quickly." < 1464341434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464341741 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-razbcrppjmejoyex QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464341946 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n!) to O(n) is quite an optimization indeed < 1464343201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just dropped the ! < 1464343291 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just worked quieter < 1464343299 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't shout < 1464343355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1464343368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any exams left? < 1464343375 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n?) < 1464343392 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I use O(n?) if I'm not sure about how fast it is? < 1464343404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Presumably n? means zero or one ns. < 1464343405 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the time complexity of regex matching < 1464343433 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n{1-5}) < 1464343442 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's at least one n, but it might be up to five ns < 1464343446 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's {1,5} < 1464343449 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1464343454 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a regex guy < 1464343473 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I finished last week < 1464343486 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what's "either 1 times, 3 times, or 5 times"? < 1464343492 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that's a{1,3,5} < 1464343499 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n|nnn|nnnnn) < 1464343529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ta(n) < 1464343534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arcTaneb < 1464343535 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like more powerful regex systems < 1464343567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like regex systems with intersection and complement. < 1464343602 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a regex that matches factorials in unary < 1464343665 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regex is almost a fetish . < 1464343667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such regex hth < 1464343697 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not the math kind of regex < 1464343714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the Perl kind where you can execute arbitrary Perl code? < 1464343738 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but you can use backrefs and (?! and (?+>+++>+++++++>++++++++++<<<<-]>>>--. >+++++++++++. -. <<+++++++++. >>++++++. <<-------. >>. ---------------. +++++++. . <<. >>+. --------. <<. >>++++++++++++++++++..." < 1464352538 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's probably extremely rarely used :D < 1464352699 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slashdot < 1464352711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashdot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464352741 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464352943 0 :astslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464352975 0 :astslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464353783 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: well you can't update it atm... I'd like to give you access again < 1464353812 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need a public key? < 1464353838 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is password fine? < 1464353838 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464353840 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1464353841 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :public key < 1464353866 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464353878 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/RYN4fEsm < 1464353880 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- there you go < 1464353926 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers, added. < 1464354017 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :works :) < 1464354036 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, that's all I wanted < 1464354051 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1464354115 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcomed to the 5 years burlesque party next year :D < 1464354167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1464355556 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: there's a party? great < 1464356517 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464357483 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464358174 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464358542 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464359235 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464360453 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464362648 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464362855 0 :APic!?@? NICK :A < 1464362860 0 :A!?@? NICK :APic < 1464362934 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try if I can make a redirect from eso.mroman.ch/cgi/burlesque.cgi to the new location of the shell... < 1464363538 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464363758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? homogenous < 1464363759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? homogeneous < 1464363788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homogeneous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464363789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homogenous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464363839 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? contiguous < 1464363841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :contiguous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464363842 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? continuous < 1464363843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464363955 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 QUIT : < 1464364093 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.169 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1464364782 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9402:8177:386d:700d JOIN :#esoteric < 1464364946 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbudglkmmnuvbmgz JOIN :#esoteric < 1464365397 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1464366633 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464367292 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464367313 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464367863 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wawazzat? < 1464367958 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer 3% milk but mcdonalds only has 2%... argh < 1464368320 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1464368321 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C < 1464368337 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to typedef an array of arrays of pointers to a struct < 1464368342 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What on earth is the syntax for that < 1464369191 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464369748 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464370083 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9402:8177:386d:700d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464370101 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That's just typedef struct foo *bar[12][34]; < 1464370108 0 :testbot_!43d2abed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.210.171.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464370121 0 :testbot_!43d2abed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.210.171.237 QUIT :Client Quit < 1464370124 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:28 ,english typedef struct foo *bar[12][34]; < 1464370124 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:28 fizzie: Declare `bar` as another name for an array of 12 elements of an array of 34 elements of pointer to a `foo` structure. < 1464370168 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.jackal: points 11.81, score 33.25, rank 6/47 < 1464370360 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think I had something else wrong < 1464370633 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1464370695 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464371360 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464372295 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464372356 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464372727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464372838 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464373287 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464375049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464375082 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464375219 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct foo; < 1464375236 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.jackal: points 12.19, score 33.78, rank 4/47 (+2) < 1464375306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef struct foo *bar[34][12]; < 1464375419 0 :zemhill_!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.jackal: points 12.38, score 34.05, rank 4/47 (--) < 1464375428 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa why would anyone want copying text out of a terminal to keep the formatting?!?!? < 1464375527 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you might want; possibly other key can indicate to copy ANSI codes for the formatting or not. < 1464375593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: http://slbkbs.org/structish.txt hth < 1464376213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt just keep text colors it also keeps the white on black and the font you set < 1464376280 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky i found the setting to turn that off < 1464376634 0 :inap!~user@195.138.249.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464377094 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464377203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have received a lot of request in a short time period for the root of my HTTP server, all from curl and from varying IP addresses in the range 24.48.178.* 24.48.179.* 24.48.180.* 24.48.181.* do you know what this is? < 1464377437 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@90.78.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464377672 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make directory listings on my server to appear different when accessed by wget? When wget accesses a directory listing I want to remove the icons, the parent directory link, and the links for sorting. < 1464377782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, you can do it. < 1464377883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is commands to program in such thing in Apache? < 1464377953 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sqrt 3) == 2 * (exp 1) / pi < 1464377955 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1464377972 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((sqrt 3),2 * (exp 1) / pi) < 1464377973 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1.7320508075688772,1.7305119588645301) < 1464377988 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame floating point inaccuracy < 1464377993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, I figured your web server would be written in Visual Basic for Applications, or modified Z-code, or something. < 1464378006 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, they diverge way too early for that < 1464378010 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm < 1464378013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to make Apache do it. Maybe you have to modify the code. < 1464378031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can always write your own program to do directory listing, instead of using the Apache built-in program. < 1464378277 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (cos (pi/7)) + (cos (3*pi/7)) + cos (5*pi/7) < 1464378279 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.5000000000000001 < 1464378299 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one should be exactly 0.5 < 1464378452 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a bug in SHEGOC when the label of a menu item started with a digit, but I fixed it. < 1464379156 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464380612 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464380668 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1464380966 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464382466 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464382743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my server has a program for the directory listing < 1464382785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464382922 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's been invented like 50 years ago < 1464383452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464383483 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have, for the first time in my life, written a makefile < 1464383710 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464383916 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464383956 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464384230 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464384625 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea of Magic: the Gathering card like: {?} Creature - ? (0/1) ;; Banding, Rampage 1 ;; All creatures able to block ~ must do so. ;; If ~ attacks, no other bands can attack. < 1464385756 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a random look at his chat window for the first time in a while < 1464385768 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 cheers for Taneb! < 1464385776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+1 cheers for Taneb! < 1464385780 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+2 cheers for Taneb! < 1464385885 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of cards? < 1464385969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think I like banding. < 1464385973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I've never played with it. < 1464386165 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banding is pretty good. It is one of the creature keyword abilities I like best. < 1464386252 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :More tactics can be involved in combat when some cards can have banding then you can decide which bands and so on < 1464386283 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464386387 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464386535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New what-if, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet < 1464386542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this one, but it isn't very destructive < 1464386552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless, of course, you manage to turn rainbows into lasers) < 1464386889 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464386950 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464387190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47076&oldid=47072 5* 0331.185.252.84 5* (+0) 10/* Examples */ < 1464387517 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-high-definition VHDL? < 1464387750 0 :inap!~user@195.138.249.11 PART #esoteric :"ERC (IRC client for Emacs 24.5.1)" < 1464387859 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spacex is launching another F9 right now < 1464389111 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464392007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: One moment, allow me to look up what the F9 key does for the following joke < 1464392096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I guess they must do a lot of measurement? < 1464392195 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464392201 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1464392214 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1464392240 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`query hackego < 1464392259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ logs \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quine \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1464392259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: query: not found < 1464392307 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1464392443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464392453 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia oerjan < 1464392492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloon < 1464392513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles adjectivally < 1464392600 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med < 1464392606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464392632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rødgrød med fløde < 1464392636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rødgrød med fløde? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464392661 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn med is a simple text editor for hackego < 1464392667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'med': med is a simple text editor for hackego < 1464392689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn med is a simple text editor for HackEgo. < 1464392694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'med': med is a simple text editor for HackEgo. < 1464392714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punctuates moon_ with the saucepan ===\__/ < 1464392785 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slimes oerjan with the snail cannon 0== 🐌  < 1464392827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: tabs don't transfer well in irc hth < 1464392835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i see an inverted I) < 1464392836 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt use one < 1464392842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you did. < 1464392856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you actually used an I with inverted color codes. < 1464392860 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode's builtin irc doesnt allow hackegos < 1464392866 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464392868 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464392871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1464392871 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tabs < 1464392889 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking and typing at the same time, it never ends well < 1464392906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION investigates. < 1464392919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tunes logs have an actual tab character there. < 1464392935 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode error or me making a cpy-paste wrror < 1464392943 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8error < 1464392945 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*error < 1464392953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to assume the latter. < 1464392957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "investigate" sounds like some scandal in the stock market < 1464392965 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i^ < 1464392985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: perhaps the web irc doesn't allow you _typing_ a tab, but still lets you paste one. < 1464392991 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, maybe < 1464393000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time, stevia | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464393028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking and typing at the same time is actually known to have positive effects < 1464393046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, you're supposed to think, /then/ type. < 1464393051 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1464393062 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i type my thoughts sometimes < 1464393066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well spotted, you may become a punster yet. < 1464393066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Thinking and typing at the same time doesn't allow you to revise your thoughts before typing < 1464393069 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about hackego then < 1464393105 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which resulted in: freenode's builtin irc doesnt allow hackegos < 1464393110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also, stream-of-consciousness writing goes REALLY badly with certain psychological conditions < 1464393111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464393113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone noticed < 1464393165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: May contain crude drawings of nuts < 1464393177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TREE nuts) < 1464393183 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, that goes nicely < 1464393193 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace the ingredients joke with it < 1464393197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: i was assuming you pressed an actual tab, which got tab completed to HackEgo. wait, that doesn't even make sense without the capitalization. < 1464393205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: It should probably go /with/ the ingredients joke < 1464393214 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, your right < 1464393247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464393252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. < 1464393260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should just make the topic "The international hub of esoteric programming", followed by a link to the expanded topic, which would be many thousands of sections long, and would serve in and of itself as a corpus for fungot < 1464393260 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they say that a sink looks different from high above the water and make them visible. ( bulfinch's mythology, by david gerrold) < 1464393266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append #esoteric May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464393270 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464393295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That works too < 1464393307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NUT < 1464393313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+004E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N \ UTF-8: 4e UTF-16BE: 004e Decimal: N \ N (n) \ Lowercase: U+006E \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U \ UTF-8: 55 UTF-16BE: 0055 Decimal: U \ U (u) \ Lowercase: U+0075 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0054 LATIN C < 1464393319 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append #esoteric Contains only free ranging moons. < 1464393320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, and font forging | Ingredients: Hydrogen, time, stevia | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464393322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. May contain crude drawings of nuts. Contains only free ranging moons. < 1464393338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Now the topic is descriptive. < 1464393348 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NUT AND BOLT < 1464393351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F529 NUT AND BOLT \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddd29 Decimal: 🔩 \ 🔩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1464393362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is this channel primarily prescriptivist or descriptivist? < 1464393366 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, 🔩 narnia! < 1464393370 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a CHESTNUT and a DOUGHNUT. < 1464393383 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both hppavilion[1] < 1464393385 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1464393391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: "primarily" < 1464393399 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1464393404 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 50% 50% < 1464393409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the expanded topic is just the entire tunes logs hth < 1464393410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I advise that the channel officially take on the prescriptivist ideology < 1464393418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...Huh. < 1464393430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/prescriptivist/descriptivist/ < 1464393452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Take note: An actual example of irony, once the s/// is applied) < 1464393473 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean `sed 's/prescriptivist/descriptivist_' < 1464393502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'd describe this channel as prescriptivist, but i'd certainly not make it a rule hth < 1464393504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: No, I just mean s///. s/// is used in conversation on IRC as well as being part of HackEgo < 1464393530 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slimes hppavilion[1] over proper syntax 0== 🐌 🐌 🐌 < 1464393534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/x/y/ means "correct whichever message this makes most sense on" < 1464393542 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1464393557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Strictly speaking, it's still correct syntax; it just isn't the HackEgo bottrig < 1464393575 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :🔩 looks like a bolded To < 1464393588 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit iffy to complain about "correct syntax", what with that underline. < 1464393601 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its used to end the s command < 1464393606 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be other characters < 1464393622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: hm i'm not sure about your addition to #esoteric. my original seemed funny just _because_ it was out of place, so adding more of the same kind diminishes it. < 1464393631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to me) < 1464393636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1464393637 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1464393639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's kind of vanity < 1464393668 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1464393687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, and font forging | Ingredients: Antimatter | BOOM! | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464393780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is done topicediting for the day < 1464393804 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: It can't be "other characters" when the previous two were slashes. < 1464393817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is correct. < 1464393823 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed s/prescriptivist/descriptivist_ < 1464393825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 31: unterminated `s' command < 1464393829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(P1) < 1464393840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(P2) fungot is just fizzie in a computer < 1464393840 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they say that a bag of, sack: summer passed all too quickly. on the road between hurworth and neasham, but of adjudicating in the kidnappings and raids the inhabitants of the babylonian god of boundaries, guardian of the skin first appears greenish, then the handles at each end, all delicately wrought in the sense that he is married to mehut, a cloven hoof, the samurai. it was the ruthless manner in which they ha < 1464393861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) fungot always tells the truth (P1&P2) < 1464393861 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: does your boss know what you're doing right now. while he was nearly burnt out, and in later times for wicked goblin spirits, as near as might be, eighteen or twenty feet across, and write at cos. the chest was divided into three compartments. in " a wizard can do it, is partially absorbed by the hazards since he has sucker feet and is generally more picturesque than useful. < 1464393872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ...no xe does not < 1464393872 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: meeting your own ghost! < 1464393877 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well, you know what they say: a bag of, sack. < 1464393912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1464393916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1464393916 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1464393921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1464393931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sucker feet" made me think lovecraft < 1464393943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1464393948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is fungot a fungot style? < 1464393962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1464393966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1464393976 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of stuff in the data.base. < 1464393979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either I just crashed or fungot isn't answering < 1464393986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464393988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part. May contain crude drawings of nuts. Contains only free ranging moons. < 1464393993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well I got fizzie's message, so I'm still here < 1464394001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW that was fast for HackEgo < 1464394006 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: There's a limit of four consecutive replies to the same person. < 1464394006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is HackEgo on a new server now? < 1464394014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah, that's probably a good thing < 1464394021 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Wumpus, by the way, is not bothered by the hazards since he has sucker feet and is too big for a bat to lift." < 1464394050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ...please tell me you had to look that up. As in, you don't just have NetHack memorized < 1464394056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/part/part, but it keeps getting trampled by free ranging moons./;s/ Cont.*//' wisdom/'#esoteric' < 1464394059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464394064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464394066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting trampled by free ranging moons.. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464394071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464394088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\.\./\./' wisdom/'#esoteric' < 1464394091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464394095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464394097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting trampled by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464394166 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "sucker feet" made me think lovecraft <-- i'd expect nethack to steal from everywhere... < 1464394227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Is HackEgo on a new server now? <-- don't ask me < 1464394238 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464394276 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawn should be garden < 1464394282 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant trample lawns < 1464394289 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, it's not on a new server. < 1464394294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: no, i can't tell people to get off my garden. < 1464394314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: i'm pretty sure you can. < 1464394315 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually it's a little bit faster when it's actively being used. < 1464394326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464394334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1464394542 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`med rr bin/med 1 3 < 1464394544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464394554 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` med rr bin/med 1 3 < 1464394557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#Rewritten by hand \ #info on lines 2 4 9 15 20 26.. continued on line 2 \ #32 38 < 1464394570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/trampled/digged up/' wisdom/#esoteric < 1464394574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464394579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464394580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting digged up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464394586 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean dug up < 1464394621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1464394660 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append #esoteric There is a mountain made of shell scripts in the southwestern part. < 1464394663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting digged up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. There is a mountain made of shell scripts in the southweste < 1464394672 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)= < 1464394683 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its true < 1464394719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we've exceeded the length limit. < 1464394729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1464394743 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1464394748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464394755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting digged up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464394770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/digged/dug/' wisdom/#esoteric < 1464394773 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464394786 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append #esoteric There is a mountain made of shell scripts in the south. exit 0 < 1464394789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '#esoteric': #esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. There is a mountain made of shell scripts in the south. exit 0 < 1464394866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up and sidles back to retiring. < 1464394878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: also, get off my lawn! < 1464394944 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nu *digs it up* < 1464394950 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1464394984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves his cane O====== < 1464395495 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer design I have written about "four level mode" which is the intention of working high resolution monochrome mode without having to change all of the clock rates < 1464396230 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :digged up means that it went uo the page on digg < 1464396255 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, is everyone aware that neopets still exists? < 1464396572 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464396578 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] I'm overprescriptive myself < 1464396578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464396602 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not expect that it was gone < 1464396619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, the default position I believe was still exists < 1464396649 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 PART #esoteric : < 1464396684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: digg still exists? < 1464396691 0 :t0dd!~d0t@72.168.144.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464396702 0 :t0dd!~d0t@72.168.144.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello :D < 1464396718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome t0dd < 1464396724 0 :t0dd!~d0t@72.168.144.98 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464396726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08t0dd: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1464396734 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1464396773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: you were fast, but not fast enough < 1464397290 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464397341 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464397519 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything you think you need Internet Quiz Engine to do that it does not currently have? I already have conditional questions, multiple-answers questions, arithmetic operations, multiple variables, and others. < 1464397566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should support free-form answers. < 1464397669 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did think of that too, although am unsure of how to implement it properly. I did think of a few ideas though. < 1464397679 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``digg < 1464397681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `digg: not found < 1464397685 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` digg < 1464397686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: digg: command not found < 1464397713 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly there need to be some way to be able to parse free-form answers. < 1464397896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe use Amazon Mechanical Turk. < 1464397984 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it should do by itself. < 1464398042 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, what kind of calculations does it need to be able to do with the free-form answers? < 1464398096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of words, number of letters. < 1464398194 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comparing text with constants also seem one thing that should be done < 1464398258 0 :moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464398444 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464398745 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464398916 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: SIGTUNA < 1464400118 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1464400895 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464401644 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464401733 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1464405348 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:add3:743c:db20:6793 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464407426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464409509 0 :proderpH!~proderpH@2a00:d880:6:52c::4c72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464409867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464410042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464410639 0 :proderpH!~proderpH@2a00:d880:6:52c::4c72 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464410742 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbudglkmmnuvbmgz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464412044 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464412098 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464412481 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1464412515 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464412837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464413141 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464414881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464414904 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you show example of how a quiz that is using free-form answers might do? < 1464414938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A question might be "Can you show example of how a quiz that is using free-form answers might do?" < 1464415000 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unclear how the computer is supposed to score such a question though. < 1464415076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464415115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any equivalent to the DSM-n that documents "psychological disorders" picked up by AIs? < 1464415124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1464415124 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ said 5h 9m 5s ago: I'm overprescriptive myself < 1464415231 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think of the following: {?} Creature - ? (1/1) ;; Last strike, Lifelink ;; ~ gets +1/+1 for each point of damage marked on it up to eleven. < 1464415347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What would happen when that creature combated a 3/3? < 1464415420 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it has three points of damage marked on it but 4 toughness, and also 4 power so during the last strike step it does enough damage to destroy the 3/3 creature and you gain 4 life. < 1464415449 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the 3/3 creature it is blocking or blocked by has infect or wither then this does not happen, since it won't mark any damage on it. < 1464415465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. < 1464415625 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the 3/3 creature also has last strike, then this creature is destroyed and you gain 1 life, and the 3/3 creature now has one point of damage marked on it and is not destroyed. < 1464415726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this creature destroyed if the 3/3 has last strike, and not if it has normal strike? < 1464415752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no wait it is not destroyed; I made a mistake. < 1464415775 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However then the 3/3 creature is not destroyed either, and you still gain only 1 life. < 1464415801 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does survive and is now 4/4. < 1464415822 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should have normal strike instead of last strike. < 1464415873 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no "normal strike" ability; if it doesn't have first strike or double strike or last strike then it assigns damage during the normal strike step. < 1464415902 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without last strike it is a bit less powerful in most cases I think. < 1464415990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I meant by normal strike. < 1464416004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's less powerful, but it's still good vs. first-strike creatures. < 1464416050 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know, it is that; I did think of that, but decided to give it last strike. < 1464416123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But last strike isn't in the rules. < 1464416139 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know; I made up that rule! < 1464416154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And did write how it interacts with first strike and double strike on the same permanent.) < 1464416213 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea is a card that says: State-based actions cannot destroy creatures during combat damage steps unless a card is on the stack. < 1464417328 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464417464 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1464418284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464418302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I could bloat the GoL into something terrible and sell it on steam xD < 1464418318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt steam supports 0-player games though :/ < 1464418585 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@elh211.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464419044 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@elh211.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464419701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464419822 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464420134 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:add3:743c:db20:6793 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464420410 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:c5c9:87e7:1bf7:b775 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464420460 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464420688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1464420908 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the blitter include the ability to load a translation table and to use it? I am not sure if it is worth to include such thing, at all. < 1464421193 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd JOIN :#esoteric < 1464421257 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464421268 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd JOIN :#esoteric < 1464421925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is that a triggered or activated ability? < 1464422716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464422815 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464424145 0 :Qund!~Qund@24-246-82-61.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464424288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464424670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464424863 0 :Qund!~Qund@24-246-82-61.cable.teksavvy.com PART #esoteric : < 1464427402 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:8cd9:139d:2038:72e7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464427694 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:8cd9:139d:2038:72e7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464430266 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, the timing of that card doesn't work... < 1464430343 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, wait, I misread < 1464430367 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gets +1/+1 for each point of damage" is a state-based thing, not a triggered ability. ok. that's extremely peculiar. < 1464430503 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ptnnmykbkhcgsxto QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464431471 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-azqfsqajgxevmqzi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464435814 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464435878 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464436081 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464436375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just asked someone online who wasn't making much sense if they're fungot. I await their utter confusion. < 1464437090 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1464438959 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464439369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464440334 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464441023 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender| < 1464441035 0 :bender|!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Changing host < 1464441036 0 :bender|!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464441903 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464442168 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464442799 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1464442803 0 :hwpplayer11!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464442854 0 :hwpplayer11!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464443166 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464443473 0 :bender|!?@? NICK :bender < 1464443856 0 :beoswind!1fb795d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.183.149.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464443933 0 :beoswind!1fb795d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.183.149.208 QUIT :Client Quit < 1464448158 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464448356 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464448482 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b49c:2e1b:e0ee:55a JOIN :#esoteric < 1464449237 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464449741 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b49c:2e1b:e0ee:55a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464450332 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464450888 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464450999 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :freud < 1464451121 0 :freud!?@? NICK :freudi < 1464451123 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464451191 0 :bender!?@? NICK :sid123 < 1464451261 0 :freudi!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1464451341 0 :sid123!?@? NICK :RespublikBender < 1464451342 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :freud < 1464451395 0 :RespublikBender!?@? NICK :bender < 1464451477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07VL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47077&oldid=47076 5* 0331.185.252.84 5* (+51) 10 < 1464451610 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464452447 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464452848 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464452870 0 :freud!?@? NICK :shik < 1464452890 0 :shik!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1464453182 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464453290 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464453484 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1464453768 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1464453915 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464454311 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464454429 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Were you the person who wasn't making much sense? < 1464454429 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: human, chieftain, guard, ninja, nurse, page, ronin, shopkeeper, you get promoted to demi-god. < 1464454441 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice career path. < 1464455509 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464455679 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a JOIN :#esoteric < 1464455681 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464455686 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1464456215 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464456434 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464456487 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone threw a chocolate cake in the german parliament < 1464456513 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i decided not to inquire for more details < 1464456602 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'ahstunls tt hdoto is ldpossthc stttd,ls cavscts s bs j id tesod ap Wh ieihdthdid I thils tf ar thp ' < 1464456710 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b"Th m nn oonsehron eom pran tr L misrlw phund winr ches in nofs of nhns'hon nun nolpofrim tuos of ndr" < 1464456851 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably they thought it would taste better than the usual comedic thrown foodstuff. < 1464457171 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'Th tts toes6thtubrrtesspoothived i mouthumetsisatht, tiatioss whtr tyiniuloretapedtithrics. Itzrensu' < 1464457364 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Please translate? < 1464457429 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mean anything. < 1464457453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it has ". ", it has a sentence structure, there's a particular use of capital letters. Are you sure? < 1464457559 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I do admit a toes6thtubrrtesspoothived is a bit of a long word. < 1464457728 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has a numeral in it, which real words generally don't. < 1464457758 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, let's have a better one. < 1464457759 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'To pooitas apitaie aul Weakiome aioui goatiagionauateon. Chiter tinmeoucioveany oi meo, orined Mouna' < 1464458461 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464458521 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'Thated top el to te a cter of Wis to tonts Aexper. It ted (oved itto te than nxlo tovt cter Norton J' < 1464458676 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1464458679 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, it's starting to get some really good words in there. < 1464458680 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'Tex in icwuites the toll, ovel whevexpected to the kingdom s Ituresp. the Kizyingerne, haves Mit te ' < 1464458857 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'The Therexpectuitee Fist.avhas oo decfuiteoacteretooee tollboothetteralomeations an Wistomes full of' < 1464458867 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what tollboothetteralomeations are. < 1464458869 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464458877 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly is that? < 1464458915 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output from a neural net trained to output character strings. < 1464458919 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b"The to the book the to the book is a lo e chev noppeon the 'ook was boothoed iat, Tany eventorestes " < 1464458932 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The training data is the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article about the book "The Phantom Tollbooth". < 1464459028 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I think this is the first time it successfully reproduced the first couple of words: < 1464459029 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'The Phantom Tollbooth one afternoon and, hovhan attoec Mted) of Oeastrens Thed Moto ctor now pons Al' < 1464459032 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time someone was going down a road, which had no tollbooth... then a tollbooth appeared and charged them money < 1464459039 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that's really scary < 1464459220 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that's not a lot of training data < 1464459232 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, that's an extremely small amount of training data. < 1464459248 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, the first training data I ever successfully used was: < 1464459249 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1464459266 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'The Phere is ted into many The Kell tr the konderful Wirl, it tells The Woo sel, it ral to the kio s' < 1464459275 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like... it's like it's trying to say something. < 1464459336 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b"Thetoovres stortofo to Concl to m. Itur's into Thar,s rovhoust to thansports him toy Poop and has so" < 1464459343 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very nice to thansport someone toy Poop. < 1464459367 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'The Will and gas wold onte the o dd Fdlatin ixs and gextextextextextextexpected inte aptor nov itve' < 1464459396 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the word I extextextextextextexpected it to use. < 1464459571 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464459640 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, it managed to reproduce a pretty long section verbatim. < 1464459641 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'The Phe text is full of puns and wordplay; many events, such as when Milo unintenn wrer whine aftern' < 1464459675 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of that is a verbatim quote: "[T]he text is full of puns and wordplay; many events, such as when Milo uninten[tionally ...]" < 1464459763 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it almost reproduced the first 100 bytes of the whole thing: < 1464459764 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b"The Phantom Tollbooth is a 1961 children's adventure novel by American writer Norton Juster Nills an" < 1464459790 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct quote: "The Phantom Tollbooth is a 1961 children's adventure novel by American writer Norton Juster [with illustrations ...]" < 1464459943 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464460731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Evil14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47078&oldid=46809 5* 0390.255.15.157 5* (+1) 10Fixed spelling mistake - 'wave function' -> 'weave function' < 1464461734 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your goal is to learn English in general, I fear you might be overfitting a bit. < 1464461772 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/ did a bit of Wikipedia markup. < 1464461813 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and some LaTeX. < 1464462818 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464462825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464462836 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite a bit more... < 1464463062 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkraygkrpmkyynqd JOIN :#esoteric < 1464463582 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but if my goal is to learn this exact paragraph, I'm not overfitting at all! < 1464463733 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's fair to say that the neural net has successfully memorized the entire paragraph. < 1464463743 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is slightly impressive. < 1464463811 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464463863 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see. The paragraph is 1114 bytes, 51 distinct. This means that, naively encoded, the number of bits of information there is... < 1464463869 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1114 * log 51 / log 2 < 1464463871 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6319.081830956246 < 1464463874 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That many. < 1464464018 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how many parameters are there in your model? < 1464464057 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The neural net has an input layer with effectively 51 neurons (no parameters); a hidden layer with 50 neurons (effectively (51+1)*50 parameters); another hidden layer with 50 neurons ((50+1)*50 parameters); and finally an output layer with effectively 51 neurons (effectively (50+1)*51 parameters). < 1464464070 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'm not sure if the output layer has biases. < 1464464082 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1464464088 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the number of effective parameters is... < 1464464101 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (51+1)*50 + (50+1)*50 + (50+1)*51 < 1464464105 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7751 < 1464464108 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That many. < 1464464109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a word other than "neuron" to describe the sizes of the vectors? < 1464464127 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dimension? < 1464464130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-dimensional hidden layer? < 1464464135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good. < 1464464171 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now for your complex term of the day: n-dimensional mathematical numpy-supported matrices supported on a large hardware platform. < 1464464172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not a fan of the word "hidden" either, but at least it's not forcing a biological analogy. < 1464464226 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, in fact, accurate to say that these are "n-dimensional mathematical numpy-supported matrices". < 1464464247 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they are, in a sense, "supported on a large hardware platform", because this is running on my laptop, and my laptop is physically large. < 1464464300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked the other day: How much justification is there to Tensorflow et al.'s use of the word "tensor"? < 1464464326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are these things tensors in the usual sense, with covariance/contravariance, multilinear maps, etc.? < 1464464400 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: RNN elements are conventionally called "cells". < 1464464467 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they can be used that way. < 1464464481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emmental14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47079&oldid=35639 5* 0396.48.108.186 5* (+231) 10/* Hello, World! */ Added easier to understand example < 1464464490 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "tensor" in Tensorflow is the tensor product of some copies of R^n, for varying n. < 1464464524 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I like to be correct while also being stupidly verbose < 1464464536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47080&oldid=47071 5* 03Ais523 5* (-13) 10Undo revision 47051 by [[Special:Contributions/Moon|Moon]] ([[User talk:Moon|talk]]); as mentioned in the intro, redlinks are removed from this list if they stay red too long < 1464464548 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, it's a multidimensional array. < 1464464563 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think a tensor is just a multidimensional array. < 1464464705 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if the "et al." is large enough, there's no need for justification. < 1464464929 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't want to use the word "neuron", it's possible to just say "the size of the layer is X". < 1464464937 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw TensorBoard for the first time the other day. < 1464464946 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy. < 1464465012 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think it's too large. < 1464465082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if all of these libraries used "vector" to mean "scalar", I would still want justification, because their usage is in the context of the rest of the world. < 1464465136 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, I was including rest of the world in the et al., possibly. < 1464465138 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tensor is certainly not just a multidimensional array. < 1464465427 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> 2 * 10 ** (1/n)) [0..6] < 1464465429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Infinity,20.0,6.324555320336759,4.308869380063768,3.5565588200778455,3.1697... < 1464465442 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doink. < 1464465446 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> 2 * 10 ** (n/6)) [0..6] < 1464465448 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2.0,2.935598535244139,4.308869380063768,6.324555320336759,9.283177667225557... < 1464465484 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> round $ 100 * 10 ** (n/6)) [0..6] < 1464465486 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [100,147,215,316,464,681,1000] < 1464465565 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> round $ 96 * 10 ** (n/6)) [0..6] < 1464465567 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [96,141,207,304,446,654,960] < 1464465585 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> round $ 98 * 10 ** (n/6)) [0..6] < 1464465587 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [98,144,211,310,455,668,980] < 1464465749 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let blah = [10.0, 15, 20, 30, 50, 70, 100, 150, 200, 300, 500, 700, 1000] in zipWith (/) (tail blah) blah < 1464465751 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.5,1.3333333333333333,1.5,1.6666666666666667,1.4,1.4285714285714286,1.5,1.... < 1464465776 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10**(1/6) < 1464465778 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.4677992676220695 < 1464465977 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464466022 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464466034 0 :ybden_!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Client Quit < 1464466296 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464467800 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1464467800 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Quit: Bai. < 1464467854 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464467874 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1464467874 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1464467874 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1464468117 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not yet know what my new kind of computer design is called. < 1464468153 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To know what it is called can help with discussion elsewhere, with naming programs that do emulation or hardware implementation of parts of it, etc. < 1464468168 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it already has a name and you don't know what it is? or is it something that doesn't have a naem yet and you haven't named it? < 1464468175 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kitten! < 1464468200 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wrong channel < 1464468214 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I didn't even realise that wasn't part of this conversation :-P < 1464468236 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: kitten kitten kitten? < 1464468236 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: they say that if you start at the man fled, clutching his bulging guts, finally to fall from his throat; the drunk vomited lumps of human flesh. ( the fellowship of the english puritans regarded all fairies as devils. the couatl are very sharp; watch you don't usually mind if you need a mirror to notice a mimic in an ideal existence, drinking and eating without restraint and fighting over again the battles in which he ca < 1464468244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1464468244 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1464468263 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, eww. < 1464468264 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think that it does not yet have a proper name. < 1464468279 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why I obviously do not know what the name is! < 1464468284 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there isn't one! < 1464468317 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kitten < 1464468320 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, wrong channel again < 1464468546 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the free kitten refuses to be bound to any particular channel < 1464468565 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, let's worship the great kitten < 1464469005 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some ideas about the main processor's microcode which are a bit similar to some of the features of VAX microcode, such as huge VLIW, every instruction contains a jump (actually two in the design I have thought of), and XFC. < 1464469212 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The microcode would include ROM and RAM areas, and you can define your own instructions in the RAM area. < 1464469473 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a kind of horizontal microcode format, and some of the pieces of a microcode instruction might be: register numbers for the Muxcomp inputs/outputs, ALU code, external memory I/O code, condition code, jump if true, jump if false. < 1464469559 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is muxcomp32 then seven register must be specify for muxcomp, and some registers might be immediate values, constants, and external memory access. < 1464469846 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464469850 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1464470122 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464470262 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464470273 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..10] < 1464470275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10] < 1464470303 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zip [1,4..] [1,6..] < 1464470305 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,1),(4,6),(7,11),(10,16),(13,21),(16,26),(19,31),(22,36),(25,41),(28,46),... < 1464470356 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo > zip [1,4..] [1,6..] < 1464470364 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo '> zip [1,4..] [1,6..]' < 1464470394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'> zip [1,4..] [1,6..]' < 1464470394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​> zip [1,4..] [1,6..] < 1464470411 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daww )= < 1464470468 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zip "Im being ziped!" "!depiz gnieb mI" < 1464470470 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [('I','!'),('m','d'),(' ','e'),('b','p'),('e','i'),('i','z'),('n',' '),('g',... < 1464470544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please use /msg unless you're showing something to others < 1464470555 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1464471026 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5820:b1f9:9fe0:4a5d JOIN :#esoteric < 1464471031 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1464471186 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464471370 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder < 1464471372 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`apt < 1464471375 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464471377 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`aptitude < 1464471386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: apt: not found < 1464471417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[?7h[?1000h[?25l[?1c Actions Undo Package Resolver Search Options Views Help < 1464471442 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1464471446 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1464471555 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder, some linux distros have the 'lolcat' command, does hackego have it? < 1464471559 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ddate < 1464471561 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Pungenday, the 2nd day of Confusion in the YOLD 3182 < 1464471562 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try that first < 1464471579 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ddate | lolcat < 1464471580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: ddate [+format] [day month year] < 1464471589 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ddate | lolcat < 1464471590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: lolcat: command not found < 1464471594 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daww < 1464471609 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is lolcat? < 1464471613 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ddate? < 1464471619 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :discordian date < 1464471623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second... *opens up Twister* < 1464471628 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should learn about it < 1464471633 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :discordianism,is great < 1464471639 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opening network panel... < 1464471653 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :attempting to identify @tasty... < 1464471693 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolcat rainbow colors its input, myname < 1464471716 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well, time to make a irc version *jokes* < 1464471720 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ddate | rainbow < 1464471723 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0909T02o06d03a10y10 09i07s07 06Pung06e06nd11ay,07 th14e07 206n12d 06d11ay07 of 08C05onf04usio13n 12i14n14 t04h02e 11YO12L08D 3104803211 < 1464471729 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that? < 1464471734 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah,, yeas < 1464471736 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1464471740 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a bit fancier. < 1464471749 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, lolcat is much fancier < 1464471753 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Moon_ < 1464471756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Moon_: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1464471767 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im already a known member -.- < 1464471769 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uses the 256-color control codes and all that. < 1464471793 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you do that stuff, then? < 1464471810 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because im bored :P < 1464471819 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am a known member < 1464471830 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go watch some youtube < 1464471849 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont feel like it < 1464471869 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "member" is the right word for anyone here. < 1464471891 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loltrue < 1464471894 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fellow nerd < 1464471947 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a Discordian calendar program on ifMUD too < 1464471960 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! < 1464472194 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether ddate should or shouldn't be part of util-linux on Debian was a long, long debate. From what I recall, it got removed at least once, and maybe reinstated or split to a separate package. < 1464472197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is actually two versions of Discordian calendar, which are the common version (which is synchronized with the Gregorian calendar), and the uncommon version (which is synchronized with the Julian calendar); however there is currently no difference between them, I think they would start to differ in 2100 maybe. < 1464472435 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that just because Principia Discordia says "every four years"? < 1464472478 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464472568 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seeing as it is otherwise synchronised one-to-one with the gregorian calendar, discordian-with-gregorian-leps < 1464472571 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :*leaps < 1464472882 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464473003 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ddate probably should not be the part of the core package but probably should be another package. < 1464473089 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464473205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"core package" of what? < 1464473206 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it isn't part of the Ubuntu package it used to be in (which contained fsck and similar programs, IIRC) any more < 1464473223 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it was in a package of important Linux utilities, many of which most systems will use < 1464473228 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fsck was the most famous < 1464473230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[gamemanj@Iwakura ~]$ ddate < 1464473230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ddate: command not found < 1464473233 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, there might be an even more famous one < 1464473347 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it apparently used to be in util-linux, < 1464473351 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't built anymore by default. < 1464473624 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464473828 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1464474070 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1464474071 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was referring to. < 1464474205 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :1998: Bug#30015: util-linux: please include ddate < 1464474216 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010: Bug#583503: ddate: this useless joke program has no place in a base debian install. < 1464474230 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012: Bug#583503: ddate, upstream, and debian. < 1464474236 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014: Bug#583503: ddate no longer shipped in upstream release v2.24.2. < 1464474254 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quick look at wikipedia reveals something interesting... < 1464474294 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those weren't even all the titles. < 1464474300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddate: removed from default build by the same people who brought you: "tunelp: parallel port printers are probably almost extinct devices" < 1464474368 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a vague recollection they must've flip-flopped on its inclusion at least once, before it ended up in a separate 'ddate' package. < 1464474436 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a tad worried that a package for various utilities is being committed to by someone who intends to strip down the commands... isn't that the point of busybox? < 1464474487 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the reasonable argument was that it's not a package of "various utilities", it's a package of things you absolutely need to have available. < 1464474557 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ddate should be a separate package, such as "comprehensive date/time package" which may include that and others < 1464474579 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...such as "wall" (good to have on mainframes maybe), "script" (eh could be useful) , "ul" (ok who needs this) < 1464474580 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, a package by itself, is another possibility < 1464474629 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all 3 of those, wall, script and ul have man pages on my system, and ul especially seems particularly useless. If the "things that are required to be available" is the point, then it would be a lot smaller < 1464474648 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ul is not in util-linux on my system. < 1464474649 0 :chron_!~chron@host-80-43-83-122.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464474662 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither is 'wall' or 'script'. < 1464474662 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :script can be useful for documentation purposes < 1464474677 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program "wall" could be useful on multi-user systems, although for single-user system does not seem so useful. < 1464474686 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :script's part of the Debian upgrade process documentation. < 1464474701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But still, someone might use wall for some purpose even in a single-user system) < 1464474701 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464474727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fair enough, but tunelp presumably has a similar basis. < 1464474730 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, good old wall/write/talk/mesg < 1464474742 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is: where to draw the line? < 1464474748 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, on multi-user systems, those programs can be useful. < 1464474752 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Somewhere south of ddate, probably. < 1464474753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464474753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464474767 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in the case of ul, right under the text... < 1464474771 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm training my neural net on #esoteric logs again. < 1464474783 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A separate package for programs that are useful for multi-user could be added if someone wants this, I suppose. < 1464474785 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it doesn't make any sense to include ddate but not date. < 1464474806 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a quote from it: < 1464474807 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hd cu#8rin84cde3!i aNenei r s < 1464474808 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think date is supposed to be core < 1464474813 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used ddate... I didn't even know that it exists. < 1464474825 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a ddate login script, I think. < 1464474827 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... "objectively" the latter is not needed. < 1464474827 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464474828 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464474829 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while, though. < 1464474856 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to draw hard lines < 1464474872 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, I think Debian should switch to a probabilistic package manager. < 1464474875 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, it seems that ddate is just another date format and makes more sense as a part of date. < 1464474886 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think date and ddate are rahter obvious choices ;) < 1464474895 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ... < 1464474898 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you scare me < 1464474900 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464474927 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for date, it's not even part of util-linux (it's part of coreutils), so ddate, being another date format, should be there. < 1464474936 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, in coreutils) < 1464474938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learned last week that there are several flavors of netcat. < 1464474945 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is rather a different calendar rather than just a different output format < 1464474954 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dates are dates. < 1464474984 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's another dimensions: if there are several variants of a tool, which one will you include? < 1464474998 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The netcat variants are a big annoyance. < 1464475004 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464475008 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dates... I should buy some dried dates... < 1464475011 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to include Mayan calendar too, and also Muslim, and whatever others? < 1464475017 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bsd one, the gnu one, the others < 1464475018 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least there's only one socat. (Which hasn't been enough of a draw to learn the socat syntax.) < 1464475020 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that order < 1464475037 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: idk, I give up < 1464475071 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_%28fruit%29 < 1464475073 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464475089 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment i thought socat is some useless thing to interact with stackoverflow < 1464475098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: hah < 1464475104 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dates are dates? That's not true at all. < 1464475109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should look into socat too < 1464475124 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Datetime" means something different in every programming language. < 1464475132 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that spews out those wiki updates is almost all socat. < 1464475160 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464475161 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh is "socat" a pun? ... meh. < 1464475175 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ess-oh-cat... socket < 1464475214 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SOcket CAT", it just says. < 1464475241 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super Orange Cat < 1464475245 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a cat today. < 1464475337 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess my question is how one is supposed to pronounce it. < 1464475353 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't rightly know, I think I've always just written it. < 1464475358 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh. rdiff-backup ran out of memory again. For some reason it just does that; then the system starts swapping and the backup takes two days or something ridiculous. < 1464475579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a relatively extensive set of files (3582083 used inodes on the filesystem, and it's a large chunck of that), but from what I gather, it's still supposed to only take a reasonable amount of memory, and seems to do just that for most people. Someone else was complaining of excessive memory use as well, but I don't think that thread ever resolved. < 1464475690 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If rdiff-backup seems to be leaking memory, it is probably because it is using an early version of librsync. librsync 0.9.5 leaks lots of memory. Later versions should not leak and are available from the librsync homepage." < 1464475724 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is 0.9.7, and shouldn't have such problems, so who knows. < 1464475740 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The amount of memory rdiff-backup uses should not depend much on the size of directories being processed. Keeping track of hard links may use up memory, so if you have, say, hundreds of thousands of files hard linked together, rdiff-backup may need tens of MB." < 1464475764 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible < 1464475779 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't be many of those, and it's at three hundred megs (out of ~400-ish or so). < 1464475803 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.:32:26: -!- iacht5 ion1nhndonul7gviin ao1ar ridl < 1464475823 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: bless you < 1464475832 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1464475860 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. It's got a built-in _librsync.so. < 1464475869 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rdiff-backup itself is mostly Python.) < 1464475873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe *that's* old. < 1464476000 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that must be just some Python glue to call into the real one, because the package is listed as depending on librsync1. < 1464476032 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ldd .../_librsync.so ? < 1464476087 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. Yes. < 1464476134 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it shouldn't be due to that. < 1464476200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't suppose there's any way to ask a running Python process for a memory use summary or something. < 1464476271 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, the neural net has learned a nick... kinda. < 1464476272 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c2 cl:12:22: am1yms c a,gi t7on an2sn rucarc n niraao h gota> hom c l'itnannor3a < 1464476332 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manages to match the tone of the channel pretty well, too. < 1464476339 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...just... what?!?!? < 1464476360 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought only I used C2/CL time! < 1464476553 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464477025 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/ looks like tomorrow's weather is very XMLy. < 1464477060 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see it. < 1464477091 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hiaT is how it appears to me. < 1464477112 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're looking at an RSS feed, somehow. < 1464477123 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's what I get as the front page. < 1464477123 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the first line: 2000 < 1464477127 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with curl. < 1464477156 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which entry do you want to see? < 1464477161 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/LfUa < 1464477176 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had my normal forecast link in the browser history, that worked just fine. < 1464477182 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only the front page that appears strange. < 1464477198 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so akamai messed up? < 1464477236 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, what do you call a program that unpacks itself into more programs < 1464477239 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.metoffice.gov.uk. 842 IN CNAME www.metoffice.gov.uk.edgesuite.net. < 1464477250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it looks fine from here) < 1464477259 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:44:18: -E- rodgort has qoin jokoet nesoq)af quine(k ne uorirdaie8:one natoEam9pat < 1464477261 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :akamai? akakai. < 1464477281 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.21.75.40, 2.21.75.10 what it eventually resolves as to me. < 1464477282 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you do know what a CDN is, don't you? < 1464477290 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about curl -s -H 'Host: www.metoffice.gov.uk' http://2.21.75.40/ | head = < 1464477293 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/?/ < 1464477293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I was just joking. < 1464477319 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(www.metoffice.gov.uk.edgesuite.net is an alias for a376.r.akamai.net, a376.r.akamai.net has address 2.21.75.40 / 2.21.75.10) < 1464477324 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah that gives me the paste < 1464477333 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a CDN is a bunch of servers people pay lots of money to use, which have a lot of bandwidth available. < 1464477337 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the initial 2000, which I still find rather odd < 1464477357 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are generally meant for delivering vast amounts of static resources. < 1464477368 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: There's a bunch of numbers later on as well. < 1464477371 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: unless you're somebody like Google or Amazon who's running their own CDN. < 1464477386 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Right in the middle of the content. I suspect some sort of a length-delimited format. < 1464477430 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly debugging output or something, who knows. < 1464477562 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/datapoint/support/notifications/rss is the original link for that... no numbers though < 1464477632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now made the JavaScript implementation of Internet Quiz Engine so that if you write #BEGIN and #SHUFFLE around some lines then those lines will be shuffled in the output. An implementation that doesn't support this will treat these lines as comments and display the text without shuffling; the #< indicates extensions which are safe to ignore. < 1464477637 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The next "\r\n2000\r\n" is exactly 0x2000 bytes after the first one. < 1464477753 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, isn't that just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunked_transfer_encoding < 1464477775 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except missing the \r\n after the initial chunk length indicator. < 1464477821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No Transfer-Encoding header either.) < 1464477828 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's basically chunked transfer encoding getting botched. < 1464477847 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464477894 0 :chron_!~chron@host-80-43-83-122.as13285.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1464478196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464478673 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found something called "gdb-heap" for unplanned memory debugging -- https://fedorahosted.org/gdb-heap/ -- but I'm worried the memory debugging tool will run out of memory. < 1464478741 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It prints "Blocks retrieved 150000" etc. after every 10k blocks, and swaps a whole lot.) < 1464478766 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 PART #esoteric : < 1464478924 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up to 380000. That's a lotta allocations. < 1464478960 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't people just use static allocations... < 1464479054 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, because sometimes you don't know how much memory you'll need at compile time?? < 1464479077 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the gdb process is now using almost twice as much memory as the rdiff-backup. < 1464479092 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also at 590000 blocks. < 1464479105 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not unusual for static allocation to be insufficient. < 1464479127 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, I also think a lot of people end up using dynamic allocation when static allocation would suffice. < 1464479134 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or overusing dynamic allocation. < 1464479479 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, programs compiled with ghc-8.0.1 have a virtual memory size of 1 TB on startup (x86_64 linux)... even when most of that memory is unused, that seems overly generous. < 1464479511 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, here's the first completely well-formed thing produced by my new neural net: < 1464479512 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:01:26: his fhrtunn pikGr < 1464479558 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.rdiff-backup.general/7878 -- I assume I'm hitting the same thing, but nobody's answered. :/ < 1464479689 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FWIW, I used to use rdiff-backup but found it to be nonrobust on machines with limited (only a few GB) RAM and hundreds of GB of backup." < 1464479692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should probably switch tools. < 1464480150 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "overtly generous"... seems an understatement < 1464480223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464480464 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464480752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started writing a document in TeX to describe Z-machine specification; my document is in the public domain and aims to be complete. Currently only the contents of the header and extension table are described. < 1464480761 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that TWID is not yet described.) < 1464480776 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:50:17:44:54:58:49:04:09:04:55:34:47:52:25: | ofh mrsL /he hocercd Tped- #o-tc: h3s has joan Heey piteuuc'teasu(ttou < 1464481094 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone be Zen Pagan Atheist Taoist Discordian? < 1464481970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464482579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464483391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464483667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, and font forging | Ingredients: Neutronium | Still BOOM! | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464483733 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no kitten < 1464483741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered it. < 1464483760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, considering it was the immediate prerequisite. < 1464483780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*precursor < 1464483878 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's about rejected kittens now < 1464483925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The interdisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, and font forging | Ingredients: Neutronium kittens | Still BOOM! | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://esolangs.org/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1464483930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE < 1464484164 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION purrs demonstratively < 1464484176 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my work here is done, good night! < 1464484274 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464484748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? member < 1464484768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :member? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464484832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn member/I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. < 1464484846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «member» < 1464485849 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pokemon < 1464485858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokemon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464485884 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. < 1464485890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'pokemon': A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. < 1464485972 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :38:57:32: -!- necn arcif) ssa wo orecabsot Hascotin) to has joined #esoteric < 1464485977 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this thing could be better. < 1464486017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you know that's the actual etymology, right? < 1464486031 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. < 1464486037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you implying about the wisdom database hth < 1464486056 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "monster that you keep in your pocket" is a pretty bad description of Pokemon. < 1464486058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< < 1464486070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: look, unicorns! < 1464486090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'd prefer wisdom to have itymologies rather than etymologies. < 1464486095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's a really bad spot to put a hth hth < 1464486127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, that was last generation, now we're upgrading to ichtymologies hth < 1464486136 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but that would've been a really good spot to put a tdnh tdnh < 1464486153 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twhhh < 1464486181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean twhhhh < 1464486187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, rather, twhhhhh < 1464486203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would have helped hungry hungry hippos < 1464486223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ichtymology < 1464486227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/nooodl < 1464486229 0 :Opodeldoc!~Opodeldoc@208.114.92.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464486232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ichtymology is like itymology, but even more fishy. < 1464486232 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/nooodl: No such file or directory < 1464486237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/noodl < 1464486238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/noodl: No such file or directory < 1464486241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1464486242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl hth < 1464486248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hmph < 1464486250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1464486250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His Master's Phonetic Hmph < 1464486251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1464486299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unicorns < 1464486301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicorns? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464486342 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkraygkrpmkyynqd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464486376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn ichtymology < 1464486378 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "ichtymology". < 1464486381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn ichthymology < 1464486382 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "ichthymology". < 1464486382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464486386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn ichtyology < 1464486387 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "ichtyology". < 1464486389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/rnooodl//perl -pe 's/(.)\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464486390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn ichthyology < 1464486391 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "ichthyology" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1464486391 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ichthyology < 1464486391 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: the branch of zoology that studies fishes < 1464486393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rnooodl < 1464486420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "yaaaaaaaaaaay" < 1464486421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hthhhh < 1464486426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay < 1464486427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthhhhhhhhh < 1464486446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: long time temptation hth < 1464486468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -lP '(.)\1\1' wisdom < 1464486470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/haskell \ wisdom/hand injuries \ wisdom/superexponential growth \ wisdom/nooooooooodle \ wisdom/xkcq \ wisdom/spam \ wisdom/hthmonoid \ wisdom/hagb4rd \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ievan \ wisdom/glass \ wisdom/\oren\ \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/sssssstosis \ wisdom/homestuck \ wisdom/wwwww \ wisdom/submarine \ wisdom/zkstr \ wis < 1464486475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1464486477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1464486488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: might be a good idea to rule out spaces hth < 1464486500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact maybe make it \w < 1464486523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand injuries < 1464486525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 or http://wwwww.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html < 1464486532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superexponential growth < 1464486535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!! < 1464486544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hthmonoid < 1464486545 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids ... < 1464486555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves for a bit < 1464486597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/rnooodl//perl -pe 's/(\w)\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464486601 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rnooodl < 1464486602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it? < 1464486630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -lP '(.)\1\1' wisdom < 1464486632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/haskell \ wisdom/hand injuries \ wisdom/superexponential growth \ wisdom/nooooooodle \ wisdom/xkcq \ wisdom/spam \ wisdom/hthmonoid \ wisdom/hagb4rd \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ievan \ wisdom/glass \ wisdom/\oren\ \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ssssssstosis \ wisdom/homestuck \ wisdom/wwwwwww \ wisdom/submarine \ wisdom/zkstr \ w < 1464486741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( _maybe_ exclude w ) < 1464486811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1464486813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464486814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1464486821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` welcome < 1464486822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464486829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no www < 1464487155 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's another neural net message... < 1464487155 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:54:42: is on wheterr? shP or at corn bor bevluntere antynn has joined #edoteric. < 1464487344 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: *yawns* < 1464487497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that's lousy, it doesn't even add an acronym tdnh < 1464487549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emmental14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47081&oldid=47079 5* 0396.48.108.186 5* (+88) 10/* Cat program */ < 1464487884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e oh wow, programs compiled with ghc-8.0.1 have a virtual memory size of 1 TB on startup (x86_64 linux)... even when most of that memory is unused, that seems overly generous. <-- iirc the point is to _never_ allocate more than once so that there is no need to consider address fragmentation. < 1464487884 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464488031 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 terabyte seems pretty small for that purpose. < 1464488042 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what if I want to memory-map both of my 3 terabyte hard drives? < 1464488085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um those would be separate. < 1464488108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that the normal ghc heap is one, singly allocated address block. < 1464488195 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah... so this 1 TB thing is talknig about the heap only, not any memory-mapped stuff? < 1464488227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't think ghc does any other automatically, but i guess any ffi may do that. < 1464488323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -lP '(\w)\1\1' wisdom < 1464488326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hand injuries \ wisdom/noooooodle \ wisdom/xkcq \ wisdom/spam \ wisdom/hagb4rd \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ievan \ wisdom/glass \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ssstosis \ wisdom/homestuck \ wisdom/wwwwwww \ wisdom/zkstr \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/oren's font \ wisdom/ioccccccclist \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychw < 1464488339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccc < 1464488340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioccc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464488343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccclist < 1464488345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iocccclist is update notification for when a new year of the International Obfuscated Contest is announced, or the winners for a year is announced, or the source codes of winners are released. http://wwwwww.iocccccc.org/#news < 1464488361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -lP '([^w\W])\1\1' wisdom < 1464488363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/noooodle \ wisdom/xkcq \ wisdom/hagb4rd \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ssssssssstosis \ wisdom/www \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ioccccccccclist \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwlllllllllantysiliogogogoch \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/noooodl \ wisdom/code \ wisdom/phantom_______ < 1464488394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm tempted to make it work on _ but maybe there's enough phantom______confusion < 1464488400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ievan < 1464488401 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ievan is basically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI < 1464488408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ievan < 1464488417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1464488535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e here's the relevant trac https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9706 < 1464488535 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464488540 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:45:28: mas. moweogtonpem sec. not nione has joined #ksot < 1464488720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ievan is that old? < 1464488779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/ievan | grep summary: | tac < 1464488785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464488830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first time I heard that polkka was in 2014, it looks like. < 1464488860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464489133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464489156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i got it linked from here < 1464489227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i meant the wisdom, in case anyone is confused) < 1464489288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeesh < 1464489289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeesh. < 1464489292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeesh < 1464489293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464489307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rgrep -lP '([^w\W])\1\1' wisdom < 1464489308 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nooodle \ wisdom/xkcq \ wisdom/hagb4rd \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ssstosis \ wisdom/www \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ioccclist \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ wisdom/yeeeeeesh \ wisdom/nooodl \ wisdom/code \ wisdom/phantom___hoover \ wisdom/vim \ wisdom/shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj < 1464489324 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1464489325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/(\w)\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464489340 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464489351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vim < 1464489352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim equals to approximately ccxxxxxxviin. < 1464489357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/rnooodl//perl -pe 's/([^w\w])\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464489359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rnooodl < 1464489372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom___hoover < 1464489374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. < 1464489415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait did you change to \W all of a sudden < 1464489435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/rnooodl//perl -pe 's/([^w\W])\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464489439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rnooodl < 1464489442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\w means word characters, \W means the complement < 1464489442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really know what he's doing < 1464489447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1464489448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ^ means the complement < 1464489472 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sure wish regexps had intersections and complements. < 1464489492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodles < 1464489494 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1464489504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodles < 1464489506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1464489518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? code < 1464489521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,15555555554669736900946809800000000956080767,1372094670449491379188594026666666665466978579582015128512190078... < 1464489534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks legit. < 1464489543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pumping lemma < 1464489544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumping lemma? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464489605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccc < 1464489607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioccc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464489613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccclist < 1464489615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn pumping lemma/nooodl's pumping lemma for wisdom entries states that for any sufficiently long valid wisdom entry, there exists a letter that can be repeated any number of times. < 1464489615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioccccclist is update notification for when a new year of the International Obfuscated Contest is announced, or the winners for a year is announced, or the source codes of winners are released. http://www.ioccccc.org/#news < 1464489617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «pumping lemma» < 1464489631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: do you approve twh < 1464489633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE not so helpful in that case. < 1464489657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ioccclist < 1464489664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas < 1464489666 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? CCCP < 1464489667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCCP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464489672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? СССР < 1464489672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​СССР? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464489674 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1464489686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soviet russia < 1464489688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ soviet russia? < 1464489695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soviet union < 1464489697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ancient history, the Soviet Union used to be the THEM. They believed in absurd principles like "Better Red than Dead". Then Ronald Reagan invented Star Wars to destroy it, after which there seemed to be no the THEM for a while. < 1464489707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :☭ < 1464489713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☭ < 1464489714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☭? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464489723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you can write that with C C C P < 1464489740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not with С С С Р < 1464489789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: aren't you an expert in regular languages < 1464489803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: and pooch-down automata and all sorts of things < 1464489889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( what style is pooch-down automata described in ) < 1464490030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( yay, a channel killing pun ) < 1464490162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? punning lemma < 1464490163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :punning lemma? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464490313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: should i take that as approval hth < 1464490319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pumping lemma < 1464490322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooodl's pumping lemma for wisdom entries states that for any sufficiently long valid wisdom entry, there exists a letter that can be repeated any number of times. < 1464490336 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I approve!) < 1464490395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bosker.wordpress.com/2013/08/18/i-hate-the-pumping-lemma/ claims that the pumping lemma for regular languages is scow < 1464490408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what about the pumping lemma for context-free languages? < 1464490503 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PS. I don’t have anything against the pumping lemma for context-free languages." Good PS. < 1464490528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the PS. < 1464490548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you dislike the pumping lemma for regular languages because it's confusing, you must dislike the one for context-free languages even more. < 1464490804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464491179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464491390 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464491455 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's that there's no good alternative in the context-free case < 1464491490 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, PLCFL is the right tool for the job, whereas PLRL is a sort of wonky over-complicated one that isn't even the best at what it does? < 1464491500 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyqxrddbbqcapzom PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I'm getting from this blog post < 1464491651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464491725 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464491809 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer, "ddate" is not found in any package. < 1464491841 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464492099 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Russia, CCCP compose YOU!!! < 1464492304 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwlsctiosowdykrz JOIN :#esoteric < 1464493443 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464493504 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464494941 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464495883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you recognize what typesetting system uses input like this? @Style[LeftMargin 10 chars, RightMargin 10 chars, Spacing 1 line, Justification no, TabWidth 8 chars] It also uses @. for a period that does not end a sentence, and it looks like the parameter of a command can use [] or () or "" < 1464497594 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464497597 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1464497613 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1464497769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1464497781 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is it a .mss file? < 1464497981 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone type the char used to give hackego commands? Apple devices lack it on the keyboard < 1464497996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :´? < 1464498003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ¸? < 1464498041 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: No it is ` < 1464498046 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know what extension it had originally. < 1464498071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it look like ? < 1464498101 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is like that one. < 1464498117 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using a tablet, so i dont have it < 1464498178 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do you know what program would typeset such files? < 1464498259 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figured out what to do < 1464498269 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1464498283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464498852 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program in ifMUD for Discordian calendar is: @print("Today is ",@let(1,@add(@switch(@time("mon"),0,-1,1,30,2,58,3,89,4,119,5,150,6,180,7,211,8,242,9,272,10,303,11,333),@time("mday")),@switch(@print(@time("mon"),"/",@time("mday")),"1/29","St. Tib's Day", @print(@switch(@mod("%1",5),0,"Sweetmorn",1,"Boomtime",2,"Pungenday",3,"Prickle-Prickle",4,"Setting Orange"),", ",@switch(@idiv("%1",73),0,"Chaos",1,"Discord",2,"Confusion",3,"Bureaucracy",4 < 1464499116 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, would a bash script that generates a number sequence based on input be useful? < 1464499331 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; many kind of programs probably can be written with shell-scripts. (I wrote a gopher client with shell-scripts, and there are also shell archives, and other stuff) < 1464499332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,5,7 < 1464499338 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Generalized pentagonal numbers: n*(3*n-1)/2, n=0, +- 1, +- 2, +- 3,....[0,1,... < 1464499360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,4 < 1464499375 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: <> < 1464499378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1464499385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHATEV < 1464499450 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,11,21,1211 < 1464499452 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Look and Say sequence: describe the previous term! (method A - initial term ... < 1464499499 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote from the neural net: < 1464499499 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:16:54: is Corriuting praning that thomgar,! pomkifen pomrye that Cw2ope ywucs: < 1464499512 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "mromangaboy" an actual attested nick, or did the neural net just make that up? < 1464499534 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464499541 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crashed < 1464499576 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did? < 1464499609 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme calculate the number of parameters this net has. < 1464499612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: don't irc and drive hth < 1464499623 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 hidden layers, size 50. < 1464499626 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx sequ//echo {"$1".."$2"} | sed "s/,//g" < 1464499631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequ < 1464499632 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464499634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: mromangaboy is a pretty obvious portmanteau < 1464499644 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My irc crashed oerjan, heh < 1464499665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: you forgot the bin/ < 1464499680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1464499685 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./sequ 1 10 < 1464499688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​{1..10} < 1464499688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which seq < 1464499690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/seq < 1464499694 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input layer is size 256 (no parameters). First hidden layer is size 50 ((256+1)*50 parameters). Remaining 6 hidden layers are also size 50 (6*(50+1)*50 parameters). Output layer is size 256 ((50+1)*256 parameters). < 1464499694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seq 1 10 < 1464499695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq: invalid floating point argument: 1 10 \ Try `seq --help' for more information. < 1464499700 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464499706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` seq 1 10 < 1464499707 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seq is unrecommended < 1464499708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 \ 9 \ 10 < 1464499715 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (256+1)*50 + 6*(50+1)*50 + (50+1)*256 < 1464499717 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days at least < 1464499717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon__: huh? < 1464499719 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 41206 < 1464499727 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People dont use it anymore < 1464499741 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm sequ < 1464499744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464499897 0 :Moon___!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464499908 0 :Moon___!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with safari and crashing when i type really fast < 1464499913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Moon___ < 1464499916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon____ < 1464499996 0 :Moon__!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464500142 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwlsctiosowdykrz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464500185 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon___: don' use safari < 1464500190 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1464500215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a terrible browser < 1464500308 0 :Moon___!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464500452 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464500489 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464500771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally catches up to april 1 in haskell < 1464500797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and promptly fell for snoyberg's Either post. < 1464501072 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464501181 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464502950 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there the document describing how the VAX microcode is working? < 1464503440 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found some documents < 1464504054 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464504106 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464504329 0 :ThisIsTheory!uid161506@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkpkftqsjvixndku JOIN :#esoteric < 1464504351 0 :ThisIsTheory!uid161506@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkpkftqsjvixndku PART #esoteric : < 1464504555 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztjntdcwulkgvkhq JOIN :#esoteric < 1464504643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464504669 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what post < 1464504813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464505733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: http://www.yesodweb.com/blog/2016/04/fixing-monad-either < 1464505885 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :love the date < 1464506572 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464506603 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tutorialspoint.com/execute_bash_online.php Is my new favorite utility < 1464506831 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1464506840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo usage: "mk[x]" file//contents >&2; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "$key")" && echo "$key" < 1464507228 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5820:b1f9:9fe0:4a5d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464507380 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464507667 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer my bash as an actual shell < 1464508170 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464508170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smashes a shell against myname's face < 1464508235 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said bash, not smash < 1464509256 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use fish < 1464511366 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464511918 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use zsh with all the fish features and more < 1464512602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It looks like a command called "scribe". < 1464512679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribe_(markup_language) < 1464512689 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464512846 0 :pentalogist!~emergent@pool-100-11-138-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464512986 0 :pentalogist!~emergent@pool-100-11-138-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net PART #esoteric : < 1464514497 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:94eb:d947:33f5:b99f JOIN :#esoteric < 1464514770 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:94eb:d947:33f5:b99f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464515693 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464515797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464518930 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@90.78.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1464521752 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464522050 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464526228 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a JOIN :#esoteric < 1464526374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464526654 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464527198 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464527259 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464527643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Drainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47082&oldid=25380 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+26) 10/* External resources */ < 1464528146 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464528356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1464529006 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464529051 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464529051 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/heEk8ez.jpg do you english speaking people know what this means without looking it up? < 1464529123 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one unrecognized word "halcyon"... but it's probably something positive, so "halcyon days" would be something like "have good future days"/something like that < 1464529190 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's referring to past happy days < 1464529202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :performing further inference... anime... iqdb searching... FAIL... Google Image Search... Bleach. < 1464529205 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the interwebz < 1464529208 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464529216 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that counts as looking it up < 1464529236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but you already told me what it was, so... < 1464529264 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and it's not actually telling me what the text says. *sigh*) < 1464529317 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464530438 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, yes < 1464530451 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do explain < 1464530524 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just said it refers to past happy days, that's what i would think it means < 1464530543 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a JOIN :#esoteric < 1464530547 0 :bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a QUIT :Changing host < 1464530548 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464530613 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also it's a class of cruiser in halo < 1464530623 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe that's what your note is referring to < 1464530627 0 :Phantom__Hoover!?@? NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1464530629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no -_- < 1464530630 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464530632 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not < 1464530641 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hello, all < 1464530656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sivitri Scarzam \ 5UB \ Legendary Creature -- Human \ 6/4 \ LE-U, CH-U, ME3-C < 1464530663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, it could be another ARG < 1464530775 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, even John Baez reports about the small Turing machines stuff in his blog: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/diary/ < 1464530790 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/diary/may_2016.html < 1464530841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bt the way he reports it strenghtens my belief that I'm correct to put John Baez in the mental file of a physicist < 1464530983 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464531001 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a JOIN :#esoteric < 1464531034 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:b170:4c27:da71:386a QUIT :Client Quit < 1464531494 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 < 1464531724 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone constructed a turing machine with a reel-to-reel magnetic tape? < 1464531807 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I was going to last summer but a) I'm terrible, and b) I have no idea where to buy that sort of tape < 1464531854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, just cannibalize a consumer-grade tape recorder < 1464531871 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's technically still reel-to-reel, the reels are just packed into portable cartridges. < 1464531889 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an Arduino could run the thing < 1464532056 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, that solves the second problem! < 1464532163 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how far you want to go, you could just connect an Arduino to two tapes - one for the program, another for the data... < 1464532174 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could go further with logic chips < 1464532196 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZX-Spectrum style tape data storage is probably easy enough to implement < 1464532276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MonkeyCode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47083&oldid=35328 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+20) 10/* External resources */ < 1464532300 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, the “tape” is just a metaphor. it needn't be actual magnetic tape. < 1464532312 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, no-one said it had to be < 1464532315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not fun that way < 1464532319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a sequence of large capacity hard disks < 1464532327 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not fun that way... < 1464532331 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1464532367 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyway, it's probably cheaper to get ahold of music cassette tape than it is large-capacity hard disks < 1464532554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you not have problems with the fact that magnetic tape might not work exactly like TM tape? < 1464532657 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the tape has to be moving across the head to get a read, i think < 1464532681 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there would be problems keeping the symbols in sync, but if you can go backwards and forwards, then it's just a matter of making sure to have sync pulses. Like, two pulses nearby for "one", but one for "zero". Then it's just a matter of "formatting" the tape to put in the initial sync pulses. < 1464532834 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it doesn't miss any pulses, it should work fine - forwards or backwards. < 1464532902 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After reading a pulse, the head should be parked at half of the distance between pulses, and a flag should exist to determine if it's left of the current symbol, or right. < 1464535299 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464535757 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:3818:7e0a:b881:2e27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464537236 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464537254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termite//Termites are genericized ants for intellectual property reasons. < 1464537267 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :double slash now? < 1464537888 0 :coppro!~scshunt@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464537895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosquito//Mosquitos are tiny vampires, sucking out your soul. < 1464538310 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? no < 1464538315 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No means hi. < 1464538502 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yes < 1464538506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464538515 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so HackEgo knows "no" but not "yes" < 1464538591 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464538675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball Do you know yes? < 1464538676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concentrate and ask again. < 1464538761 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, I found more messages in that weird language from yesterday-or-so: < 1464538762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goVO'ploth;,olmflake-mome, < 1464538762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thise hablookgcsToriir-dome, by:- shale, < 1464538762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KI unrurwfling chillst', hy kinl'gror; fiEThgrivo? apcitjeons I rue, < 1464538807 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it makes just as much sense, too... < 1464538864 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett goVO'ploth;,olmflake-mome, < 1464538864 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464538913 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett temperature 2. Two can play that game! < 1464538913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464539250 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1464539337 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wat < 1464539339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚሰራ የምግብ አይነት ሲሆን፣ የሚሰራውም ከጤፍ ነው። < 1464539501 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464539950 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464541033 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ሰ < 1464541035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1230 ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE SA] < 1464541146 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@5.196.225.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464542039 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STRANDED CHICKEN < 1464542344 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464542711 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ጿኈ ቼ ዽ ጿኈ ቼ ዽ ጿኈ ቼ ዽ ጿ < 1464543213 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@5.196.225.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464544108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464544260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... what's the Planck constant for fame? Or Beauty? Or Coolness? < 1464544292 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it has? < 1464544316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that since a Warhol is the traditional unit of fame, and lasts for 15 minutes, the Planck Fame is probably 1 Planck Time of fame < 1464544335 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1464544388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Planck Fame is, of course, the minimum amount of fame required to wind up on TMZ < 1464544425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, who the hell made a kitten out of neutronium? < 1464544429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how the hell did you do that? < 1464544520 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464544544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make me call TPETA < 1464544553 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm not going to ask what TPETA is < 1464544557 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to guess < 1464544565 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm going to be scared of what I guess < 1464544566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*TPETAFP < 1464544576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Theoretical Physicists for the Ethical Treatment of Assemblies of Fundamental Particles) < 1464544603 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooo < 1464544645 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... do they consider eating food unethical, then? < 1464544673 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically food == assemblies of fundamental particles... Ok, I think I can successfully get people to ignore them < 1464544674 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link for the Perl implementation of muxcomp seem broke, although it will be possible to write new implementations based on the description there, including hardware implementation. < 1464544698 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"muxcomp"...? < 1464544715 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is on esolang wiki < 1464544727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this your plan for the main CPU? < 1464544754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For part of the microcode for main CPU, possibly. < 1464544759 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be easier to just use the video processor design ^.^; < 1464544770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, just one processor design, but multiple of them < 1464544815 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is another idea < 1464544835 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it keeps things simple... < 1464544856 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, simple processor means you need less FPGA resources in theory < 1464544876 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I can understand that. < 1464544897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I think what is design for video processor would be insufficient for the main processor < 1464544915 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, could be. < 1464544950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... do imperial units include less conventional measurements? e.g. an equivalent of Pascals? < 1464544964 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi everyone. < 1464544970 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's pounds per square inch. < 1464545039 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sossages-loud < 1464545039 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 1h 42m 55s ago: goVO'ploth;,olmflake-mome, < 1464545039 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 1h 42m 5s ago: temperature 2. Two can play that game! < 1464545075 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's see if my neural net has plateaued. < 1464545081 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Plateaued", what a nice word. < 1464545159 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like that word for a thing that is similar to a queue, but isn't a queue. < 1464545161 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know. A queueoid. < 1464545269 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My design of thinking is that although esolangs page for muxcomp says memory locations, my design uses registers, and the muxcomp operations only exist in microcode so the instruction size does not have to match the memory size. Other parts of the same microcode VLIW instruction would include the external memory I/O part, branch targets based on condition, autoincrement, and addition/subtraction arithmetic including carry. < 1464545296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Are there any words with more than 4 consecutive vowels? < 1464545310 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, there's "queueing". < 1464545317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Ah, yess < 1464545319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1464545320 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for a word *ending* with more than 4 consecutive vowels, I'm not aware of any. < 1464545323 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Any more than that? < 1464545328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It need not end < 1464545339 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some registers can be special registers, too. < 1464545359 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I need this to exploit https://xkcd.com/853/) < 1464545373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464545383 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme do a little search, here. < 1464545397 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mind me just also running a search through /usr/share/dict/* < 1464545453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep -i "[aeiou][aeiou][aeiou][aeiou][aeiou]" /usr/share/dict/* < 1464545463 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why do I have a french dictionary < 1464545478 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean grep -E '[aeiou]{3}' /usr/share/dict/*? < 1464545493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...whichever works for you. < 1464545502 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also keep in mind the -i < 1464545514 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where was I. < 1464545528 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine doesn't have any words with 5 or more. < 1464545543 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"queueing" seems to be the one with the longest run < 1464545566 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has a few words ending with four vowels. < 1464545587 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're Italian, you're in luck! < 1464545594 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cuoiaio" < 1464545598 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onomatopoeia, pharmacopoeia, queue, sequoia. < 1464545623 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that's my name. < 1464545630 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick cuoiaio < 1464545649 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, I have some good news for you < 1464545676 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the italian dictionary. now to see what it means... < 1464545686 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone suggest to me that the MIDI variant used in my computer design could be called IMIDI instead of MIDI. < 1464545694 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464545698 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... just... < 1464545705 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Italian for "Tanner" < 1464545723 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is extra-funny if you /whois'd tswett) < 1464545749 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Whois] tswett is tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 (Tanner Swett) < 1464545777 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The protocol is MIDI although the physical connection and electrical specification and so on may differ, and the communication is two ways in one cable. < 1464545785 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ------ < 1464545814 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also this new one isn't generally used for music, although it can be) < 1464545935 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure what IMIDI even stands for, but may someone can make up what the letters abbreviate. < 1464546144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Are people on IRC who are /only/ on #esoteric infidels? < 1464546254 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "infidel"? < 1464546346 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn infidel < 1464546347 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "infidel" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1464546347 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :infidel < 1464546347 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a person who does not acknowledge your god [syn: {heathen}, < 1464546347 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {pagan}, {gentile}, {infidel}] < 1464546362 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that depends on your god. < 1464546409 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if you're the only person who knows of them, everyone else is almost by definition one, including people on IRC only on #esoteric, assuming you're not one of them. < 1464546542 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464546552 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still does not explain much, it seem. What are your religious views anyways? Perhaps it can answer the question. < 1464546596 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you the only person who knows of them? Prove it! < 1464546617 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1464546630 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once the logs are long enough, ima feed em through a program for fun < 1464546641 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what program is that? < 1464546651 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Travestificator < 1464546654 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :V1.0 < 1464546730 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This little bit of feed here is not enough for eligible messages < 1464546788 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what i gave for that: http://pastebin.com/8penHaqt < 1464546835 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1464546856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"censor", in ancient rome, described "The guy who maintains the census" < 1464546862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was also in charge of Public Morality < 1464546873 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, the program is intresting < 1464546885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is where the modern meaning of c***** comes from < 1464546902 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i find something stupidly funny, i might show you all if you wish < 1464546926 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Travestion[1]> ...huh < 1464546937 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :already at it < 1464546977 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long would "long enough" be? < 1464546999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: My religious views are from the Church of the Walrus GOd < 1464547002 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too long < 1464547006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My political party is the Grand Walrus Party < 1464547010 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a hour of logs during a bit busy times < 1464547012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really sure what the GWP stands for < 1464547020 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot more than that available already. < 1464547024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we stand for the conservation of angular momentum? < 1464547030 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol true < 1464547034 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it stands for the Grand Walrus Party. < 1464547036 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION coughs. < 1464547039 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill take from the tunes logs < 1464547057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION banishes tswett to the wastelands < 1464547071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Enjoy your trip to the Dakotas < 1464547075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wastelands? < 1464547084 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: OK, and are you infidel? < 1464547112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not sure, we haven't established what constitutes an infidel on #esoteric. That's what I was asking earlier. < 1464547115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it going to be reprinted in this near future reprint set, whatever it's called? < 1464547120 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eternal masters or something < 1464547140 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's easy. An infidel is someone who does not worship fungot. < 1464547140 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: they say that building a dungeon is a highly intelligent and completely evil creature. unlike the older race of the forest-day about him when he attacked cyrus in 549, after many minutes of climbing up the food into his house. one was his skilled handling of the numerous and colorfully mutilated divinities of that time, i will see in heaven is just a snake, to have an open ear, a lion-headed goddess. < 1464547147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was asking whether someone who /only/ uses #esoteric on IRC is an infidel because they aren't using enough of IRC < 1464547152 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'' peoplementated. '' < 1464547164 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect that makes you infidel? < 1464547168 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1464547169 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1464547172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well of course /you/ would < 1464547178 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1464547184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss? < 1464547186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1464547186 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1464547192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1464547193 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, b_jonas, can you turn on termbot? < 1464547205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wastelands and Sinkhole too < 1464547210 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: let me see < 1464547213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping it would be something like the translations of the documents governing the Nazi secret police < 1464547233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1464547233 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1464547237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1464547237 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1464547250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, that works < 1464547265 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: turned on < 1464547284 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thx, hes not in the #termbot channel yet < 1464547293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What is your opinion on the capitalization of "Into" in "StAr tReK: iNtO DaRkNeSs"? < 1464547293 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the merger was a good idea to keep this article written as if thet name change were accomplished fact; yes, us curriculum materials have been printed to that effect. < 1464547330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume "us" is "United States", not "this group of people that I am in" < 1464547331 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They really should have compromised on "Star Trek Into Darkness". < 1464547348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: How so? < 1464547366 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, one side wanted "Star Trek into Darkness" and the other side wanted "Star Trek: Into Darkness". < 1464547372 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: strange, according to my irc connection, it is and you aren't < 1464547373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Ah, yes < 1464547389 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i made a typ in the name < 1464547398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Was that a pun? < 1464547401 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464547403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes Moon_ suspiciously < 1464547410 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1464547436 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, lemme see. I think a neural net with 50,000 parameters just can't do a very good job of learning English vocabulary. < 1464547467 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, almost 100 kb of travestificator madness: http://pastebin.com/igX83siC < 1464547481 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Ok, look, here's how you spell it: サAタ trek: トニ darkness. There. No capitalization, and all the potential problematic words have been messed with (and badly by someone who doesn't know what they're doing - i.e. me -, too) < 1464547500 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That unicode chart's been really useful recently...) < 1464547504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Occasionally the metre per hour is used for slow-moving objects like snails." --wikipedia < 1464547510 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode サAタ < 1464547520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I left an "a" in < 1464547521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+30B5 KATAKANA LETTER SA] [U+0041 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A] [U+30BF KATAKANA LETTER TA] < 1464547525 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode トニ < 1464547526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+30C8 KATAKANA LETTER TO] [U+30CB KATAKANA LETTER NI] < 1464547533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do we do hourly wages? Why not give wages by the fortsecond? < 1464547549 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shillings per fortsecond. < 1464547564 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because then it would probably add up to less than an integer value and then they could pay you nothing < 1464547589 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they could call it a "rounding error" < 1464547597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: No, they couldn't < 1464547607 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, probably not legally, but still < 1464547622 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody likes decimals < 1464547625 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Also, if you're charged minimum wage by the hour, and an hour is 3,600 seconds, and a fortsecond is 14 seconds... < 1464547647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's roughly 257 fortseconds to the hour < 1464547672 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wikipedia, an adult knows roughly 15,000 words. < 1464547685 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how many parameters should I have? Hmm. < 1464547696 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :roughly 15,000 I'd? < 1464547712 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have about 40,000, and they're not doing too hot. < 1464547743 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme try 200,000 parameters. < 1464547745 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we already have wages or salaries given per hour, day, week, month, and year; and the net and gross version of each of these and in all kinds of monetary units with sometimes the exponent omitted. it can be pretty confusing already when someone just gives their salary as a number like “I earn 140”. < 1464547748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: There. 3 cents/fortsecond gets you a bit better than minimum wage < 1464547759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'd say it can't get any worse if you add fortseconds, but it probably can. < 1464547779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Specifically, $7.71/hour, rounded < 1464547806 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From the desk of a rich person: 'I earn £140 million a fortsecond.'" < 1464547828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: So minimum wage in USD? < 1464547843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464547847 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A second. < 1464547857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just throwing out words and hoping it makes a joke < 1464547873 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one british pound, you can get 1.46 US Dollars, according to Google's converter. < 1464547874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 1000000 pounds/second < 1464547881 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think 140 million pounds per fortsecond is probably more than the minimum wage in the US < 1464547887 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, presumably the US Dollar is worth less. < 1464547891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why England uses pounds as their currency instead of Kilograms < 1464547897 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464547904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1464547907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's because... < 1464547912 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE HAVE ICH DIEN ON OUR TWO PENCES! < 1464547912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode really needs to add that < 1464547918 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464547935 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? So apparently you can confuse me but I can't confuse you. < 1464547943 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, don't mind me, I'm going to get out a 2p coin < 1464547962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US also needs a pi dollar bill. But who should be on it? < 1464547971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, yeah, you can't get standardized printed on kilograms < 1464547980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems I am omitting words today < 1464547981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote that guy from Numberphile < 1464548028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOA louisianna has no minimum wage < 1464548044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does Mississippi < 1464548052 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's still a federal minimum wage. < 1464548061 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a good software for a neura networks? < 1464548069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: What language? < 1464548084 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neural networks, any language :P < 1464548094 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: I'm using TensorFlow. < 1464548097 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: ... to initialize the dataset, you should connect up electrodes to your house cat, then... < 1464548104 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464548109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: I recommend Zuccini if you want the purest neural networks < 1464548112 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iu am not hurting my housecat < 1464548120 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: I mean, do you want to write code, or do you want something that works out of the box? < 1464548137 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :works out of the box, i am nt good at complex numbers as of now < 1464548137 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For something that works out of the box, use Karpathy's char-rnn or its successor torch-rnn. < 1464548193 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: Hurting a cat would be a very bad thing! < 1464548203 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moon_: (Then again, who said that they would be hurt in the process?) < 1464548213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US states with the highest minimum wage are California and Massachusetts at $10/hour, though New York has rather complicated laws that have different minimum wages based on the region, and there's a plan that changes it for the next 5 years < 1464548231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it's also based on the size of the employer < 1464548274 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be funny if minimum wage scaled linearly with the size of the employer? < 1464548285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :American Samoa has it awful; minimum wage varies by industry, but it can be as small as $4.19 < 1464548287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes < 1464548299 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each of your employees must be paid at least 0.01% of your company's revenue." < 1464548323 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some companies don't have any revenue, so they wouldn't have to pay their employees anything. < 1464548345 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this would set a hard limit on the number of employees a company can have. < 1464548357 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be just about impossible to have 10,000 employees. < 1464548359 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It'd suck for 10,000-employee companies < 1464548363 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1464548379 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, no, you could have more than 10,000 employees. < 1464548396 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd simply have to pay more in employee compensation than you're earning in revenue. < 1464548398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Well yeah, but you'd lose monies < 1464548415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the U.S. virgin islands and Puerto Rico have minimum wage at the same as the federal minimum wage ($7.25); the only U.S. territory with a superfederal minimum wage is Guam at $8.25 < 1464548462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The minimum wage of #esoteric is, of course, $-10/nanocentury < 1464548472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it better written $-n or -$n?) < 1464548475 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think minimum wage should be zero < 1464548486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-$n looks better, but also makes no sense) < 1464548487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why? < 1464548502 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure -$n makes sense. < 1464548504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need minimum wage. < 1464548511 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the additive inverse of $n. < 1464548528 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :£-1.#INF/nanocentury < 1464548555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What about for workers who have no sense of money? < 1464548596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And if no minimum wage is needed, companies can just collectively offer less money than their labor is worth. Of course, I suppose products will start to be worth less, but that still leads to rapid deflation < 1464548622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not an economist; he's a good person < 1464548640 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you suggesting that all the companies in the US would collaborate to lower wages? < 1464548654 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, because it'd be better for them overall < 1464548673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: At least, large employers would < 1464548686 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely there would be a lot of defectors, though. Companies which decide to offer the usual wages instead, because then they'll get more and better employees. < 1464548712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Perhaps, but it'd still probably make the economy unstable < 1464548738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Cuba has a maximum wage set at 20 USD < 1464548740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PER MONTH < 1464548789 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, that's below the absolute poverty line. < 1464548890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's, like, below the double poverty line < 1464548905 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The double poverty line? < 1464548914 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if an employer does not consider my work as much as minimum wage and therefore want to pay less and if I would want to accept such a job, that it should not be illegal to do so. < 1464548925 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this new neural net isn't good at Shakespeare yet. < 1464548927 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s ernitmhI d' agpgiTh.. hr�eseidhoce,�rrIrlt;esswyo lp ba lcy,nsl� ee hhhaiigmn to wo lt,ohAhpwrUtnh o lmh iwpIrsOfdI eotihus wh < 1464548940 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464548946 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :train it more < 1464548951 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on it. < 1464548952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: At which the average person living below the poverty line has it as well as the average person living above the poverty line, relative to the average person below the double poverty line < 1464548955 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hhhaigmn? < 1464548989 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it has a vague idea about the word 'to' < 1464549018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if the average non-povertous person makes 100 units per planck time, and the average povertous person makes 20 units per planck time, then the average double-povertous person makes 4 units per planck time < 1464549028 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hth < 1464549043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: comprende? < 1464549056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically a valley-of-the-blind scenario < 1464549065 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, like, consider the ratio between the living standards of the average person above the line and the average person below the line? < 1464549073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes < 1464549113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: And the average person above the double anti-poverty line, in the previous scenario, makes 500 units per planck time < 1464549154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe it should just be called the anti-poverty line, but that makes it less clear) < 1464549219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think you're doing it wrong hth, btw < 1464549297 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1464549299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAA < 1464549315 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS THERE AN FN-LK function?!?!?!?!? < 1464549319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: QQQQQQQQQ < 1464549325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :casit < 1464549356 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: for numpad, I think < 1464549369 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or maybe for the function keys < 1464549370 0 :Moon_!4c01498a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.73.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464549396 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: My laptop has a full 100 key keyboeard < 1464549430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fn key only exists to allow volume up volume down etc < 1464549435 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: for people who miss the fn key because they're used to it from other vendors? < 1464549492 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it has a fn, but why is there an fn lock? < 1464549824 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people who want to user thr 789uiojkl numpad? < 1464549849 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1464549869 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, now there's no excuse for not also including a discordian date key, and one for making coffee. < 1464549918 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1464549929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but my laptop has an actual numpad!!!! < 1464549933 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TODO: Implement these for real) Actually the "make coffee" key is Fn-F1 (usually play-pause), and the "What was the last #ddate twist by @tasty" key is Fn-F2. < 1464549942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually "rewind") < 1464549965 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a GOOD laptop < 1464549973 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: but who's still using that ;-) < 1464550012 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: which button is discordian date, and which button controls the amount of sugar in the coffee? < 1464550039 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it depends on the phase of the moon. < 1464550042 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: @tasty posts a #ddate twist every day, so Fn-F2 works fine, and the amount of sugar is always right. < 1464550186 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mind me just playing with zenity and twisterd... < 1464550276 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to be "reliable enough": twisterd getposts 32 "[{\"username\":\"tasty\"}]" | grep -m 1 ddate < 1464550523 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztjntdcwulkgvkhq QUIT : < 1464550596 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464550775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cutting out the JSON... < 1464550776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOLD_RAW=`twisterd getposts 32 "[{\"username\":\"tasty\"}]" | grep -m 1 ddate` < 1464550776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOLD_FIXED=`echo "$YOLD_RAW" | tail -c +22 | head -c -3` < 1464550902 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Now I just need to implement a way of controlling a coffee machine... < 1464552322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to follow the standards when doing that. < 1464552336 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt < 1464552702 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464552922 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464552937 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Trouble is, the particular coffee machine I have is closer to... < 1464552940 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me dig up the file... < 1464552996 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/tossercp.txt < 1464553036 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464553060 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For some reason, my random scribblings have been rather useful today.) < 1464553301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464553938 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464554432 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464554963 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464555090 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464555123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm @ man < 1464555266 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464555273 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464555276 0 :nortti!?@? NICK :dihutenosa < 1464555298 0 :dihutenosa!?@? NICK :nortti < 1464556203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes maybe some functions should be user-defined functions. You probably could reprogram the play/pause key in your operating system though, to execute a program to control a coffee maker and display a Discordian date, if you prefer to do that < 1464556372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the coffee maker thing isn't practical, but I now have Fn-F1 set to display the latest twist from @tasty containing "#ddate". So there's that. < 1464556373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you see my message about Scribe? < 1464556458 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464556461 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Is there a free implementation of Scribe? < 1464556539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1464556549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? member < 1464556588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. < 1464556633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pumping lemma < 1464556636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodl's pumping lemma for wisdom entries states that for any sufficiently long valid wisdom entry, there exists a letter that can be repeated any number of times. < 1464556660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rgrep -lP '([^w\W])\1\1' wisdom < 1464556672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nooodle \ wisdom/xkcq \ wisdom/hagb4rd \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ssstosis \ wisdom/www \ wisdom/yeeeeeeeeesh \ wisdom/ioccclist \ wisdom/llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ wisdom/yeeeeeesh \ wisdom/pumping lemma \ wisdom/nooodl \ wisdom/code \ wisdom/phantom___hoover \ wisdom/vim \ wisdom/ < 1464556678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? www < 1464556682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWWWWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to. < 1464556687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? www < 1464556689 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWWWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to. < 1464556690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464556702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1464556703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([^w\W])\1\1/"@{[$1 x(3+rand 7)]}"/ge' < 1464556726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/w/wW/ bin/rnooodl < 1464556731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464556762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? www < 1464556764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to. < 1464556767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rgrep -lP '([^w\W])\1\1' wisdom | sed 's#wisdom/##' < 1464556769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodle \ xkcq \ hagb4rd \ yeeeeeeeesh \ yeeeeeeeeeesh \ ssstosis \ www \ yeeeeeeeeesh \ ioccclist \ llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch \ yeeeeeesh \ pumping lemma \ nooodl \ code \ phantom___hoover \ vim \ shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj \ hat \ yeeeeesh \ welcome.bork \ pho \ yeeeeeeesh \ yeeeesh < 1464556772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vim < 1464556774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim equals to approximately ccxxxviin. < 1464556784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hat < 1464556785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatee-hatee-hatee-hooo < 1464556798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pho < 1464556799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phở is a Vietnamese soup invented by nooodl to stress-test implementations of Unicode combining characters. < 1464556819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeesh < 1464556821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeeeeesh. < 1464556824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yeeeeeesh < 1464556825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See yeeeeeeesh. < 1464556836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ssstosis < 1464556838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssssssssstosis is a disease causing false identities < 1464556857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xkcq < 1464556858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"xkcq" is worth 8 more points than "xkcd" in Scrabble, or a whopping 30 more if both are played optimally on a triple word score. Nyahhhhhhhhh. < 1464556864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hagb4rd < 1464556866 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1464556910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace < 1464556912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace < 1464556998 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1464557020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :space! < 1464557079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo aaabbb < 1464557081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaabbbbb < 1464557088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo aaa aaa < 1464557090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaa aaa < 1464558108 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf the Character Witch. Shacharactch. < 1464558199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -P '(.)\1\1' share/dict-words < 1464558201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KKK's \ WWW's < 1464558463 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Whaaaaat? < 1464558465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaaaat? < 1464558475 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo aaabbb < 1464558476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaabbb < 1464558481 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Whaaaaat? < 1464558483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaaaaaat? < 1464558511 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Fannee Doolee's noodle balloons < 1464558513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464558525 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Fannee Doolee\'s noodle balloons < 1464558526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fannee Doolee's noodle balloons < 1464558551 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo cryptooology < 1464558553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptooology < 1464558558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phthisis < 1464558558 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/echo < 1464558563 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? silent < 1464558565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/echo: No such file or directory < 1464558567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phthisis? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464558567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :silent? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464558574 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep silent wisdom/* < 1464558576 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1464558581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1464558582 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo bbbbb bbbbb bbbbb < 1464558584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbb bbbbbbbb < 1464558589 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -s silent wisdom/* < 1464558591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1464558596 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo b bb bbb bbbb bbbbb bbbbbb bbbbbbb < 1464558597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b bb bbbbb bbbb bbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbb < 1464558607 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb < 1464558609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb < 1464558618 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -si "[pc]hth" wisdom/* < 1464558620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/chthonic:Chthonic lithping can be vethy dithturbing to lithten to. \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1464558622 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb bbb < 1464558623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb b bb bbbbbbb bbbb bbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbb bbbbbbb bbb bbbbbbbbb bbbbbb < 1464558645 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "Fannneee Doooleee's nooodle balllooons" < 1464558646 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fannnneeee Doooooooleee's nooooodle balllloooons < 1464558731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/chthonic < 1464558742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1464558772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464558774 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. There is a mountain made of shell scripts in the south. exit 0 < 1464558778 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Silent initial consonants in English are: write, wrong, wrist, wrap, wreck, wrest, wrestle, wriggle, wrinkle, wrath, wraith, wreath, wrangle, wren, wright, wrought, wring, writ, writhe, wry; know, knife, knock, knee, knight, knob, knot, knit, knack, knout, knuckle; psychology, psalm, pseudo, psychic, psionics; gnaw, gnash, gnome, gnu, gnat; pneumatic; mnemonic; chthonic; phthisis; bdellium. < 1464558782 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'silent': Silent initial consonants in English are: write, wrong, wrist, wrap, wreck, wrest, wrestle, wriggle, wrinkle, wrath, wraith, wreath, wrangle, wren, wright, wrought, wring, writ, writhe, wry; know, knife, knock, knee, knight, knob, knot, knit, knack, knout, knuckle; psychology, psalm, pseudo, psychic, psionics; gnaw, gnash, gnome, < 1464558789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 8187 < 1464558790 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? silent < 1464558826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file wisdom/#esoteric < 1464558827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silent initial consonants in English are: write, wrong, wrist, wrap, wreck, wrest, wrestle, wriggle, wrinkle, wrath, wraith, wreath, wrangle, wren, wright, wrought, wring, writ, writhe, wry; know, knife, knock, knee, knight, knob, knot, knit, knack, knout, knuckle; psychology, psalm, pseudo, psychic, psionics; gnaw, gnash, gnome, gnu, gnat; pneumat < 1464558851 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1464558936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`mv < 1464558938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Try again < 1464558940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/`mv < 1464558943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464558948 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Silent initial consonants in English are: wr{ite,ong,ist,ap,eck,est,estle,iggle,inkle,ath,aith,eath,angle,en,ight,ought,ing,it,ithe,y}; kn{ow,ife,ock,ee,ight,ob,ot,it,ack,out,uckle}; ps{ychology,alm,eudo,ychic,ionics}; gn{aw,ash,ome,u,at}; pneumatic; mnemonic; chthonic; phthisis; bdellium. < 1464558950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'silent': Silent initial consonants in English are: wr{ite,ong,ist,ap,eck,est,estle,iggle,inkle,ath,aith,eath,angle,en,ight,ought,ing,it,ithe,y}; kn{ow,ife,ock,ee,ight,ob,ot,it,ack,out,uckle}; ps{ychology,alm,eudo,ychic,ionics}; gn{aw,ash,ome,u,at}; pneumatic; mnemonic; chthonic; phthisis; bdellium. < 1464558953 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? silent < 1464558954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silent initial consonants in English are: wr{ite,ong,ist,ap,eck,est,estle,iggle,inkle,ath,aith,eath,angle,en,ight,ought,ing,it,ithe,y}; kn{ow,ife,ock,ee,ight,ob,ot,it,ack,out,uckle}; ps{ychology,alm,eudo,ychic,ionics}; gn{aw,ash,ome,u,at}; pneumatic; mnemonic; chthonic; phthisis; bdellium. < 1464558955 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1464558963 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way it fits a line < 1464559704 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a wren? < 1464559815 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is wrong considered to be pronounced if something is silent g < 1464559818 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464559827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a sort of bird < 1464559846 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I pronounce both initial consononants in chthonic < 1464559849 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that wrong? < 1464559854 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ch-th-onic < 1464559863 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, it's not wrong < 1464559870 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a german, the silent p always gets me < 1464559891 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list includes stuff that some crazy English speakers pronounce without the initial consonants, which I don't really understand and often can't emulate < 1464559891 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such thing as a silent p in germany, even though these words exist < 1464559938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do omit the k from the kn* words, even "know" (because I pronounce it with a different vowel from "now"), but the wr* words are horrible, a lot of them are homonyms. < 1464559944 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. tdh. < 1464559949 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kn words sound different in my head to n words < 1464559955 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "right, rite, wright, write" are all pronounced the same < 1464559956 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think I pronounce them the same? < 1464559975 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, even if "know" is fine, "knight" versus "night" can still be a problem of course < 1464559983 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vebhbfxhrbhgpmdr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464559992 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think the wr* words are worse < 1464560002 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's a knightmare < 1464560015 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I'm sure you're write < 1464560015 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is such a horrible language < 1464560019 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1464560038 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese is supposedly worse < 1464560062 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the korean alphabet looks neat < 1464560092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is a stupid language < 1464560095 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to learn Italian < 1464560115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I also hate the word "lead" < 1464560124 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no consonant cluster involved there < 1464560131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ugly homonymy < 1464560134 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I'll lead you to a lead-lined chamber where you will be safe < 1464560147 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 PART #esoteric : < 1464560150 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can live there, as long as you like, there'll even be live music! < 1464560168 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like three different words called "lead", plus two words called "led", with two pronounciations mixed up in a crazy way < 1464560194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :three, really? < 1464560199 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: dunno, maybe more < 1464560215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's the lead in a criminal case < 1464560215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464560221 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I read once that there are over 60 definitions of "set" < 1464560278 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, one verb with corresponding noun and adjective, and the metal. < 1464560391 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, there's apparently also a verb corresponding to the known < 1464560393 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*noun < 1464560402 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you distinguish a set of chess pieces from the mathematical sets? < 1464560420 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, possibly < 1464560445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's nice to have a set set of meanings < 1464560447 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe this was the definitions according to OED < 1464560530 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? deprecate < 1464560533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deprecate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464560594 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's these crazy word pairs nobody can distinguish, so they will probably merge in a few decades: depracate - depreciate, continuous - contiguous, homogenous - homogeneous < 1464560628 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki layout on https://wiki.haskell.org/Lambdabot is so horrible... I keep looking for the page history in the box of tools on the right. < 1464560724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On MediaWiki you can use accesskey "h" for history mainly, I think, so if it is MediaWiki then try that. < 1464560747 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use custom CSS on MediaWiki sites to hide all of the menus, so the keyboard commands are the only way to access such things anyways) < 1464560799 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/depracate/deprecate/ < 1464560917 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: or you can just type url paths directly, like adding &action=history or going to /wiki/Special:SpecialPages ; that usually works even on the worst skinned mediawikis, like wikia < 1464560944 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... not looking for workarounds < 1464560983 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those pairs are, I think, from different etimologies. Then there's demon - daemon - daimon which is from the same etimology and I never really understood how they're distinguished. < 1464561001 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe only two of those are from the same etimology, the third isn't? < 1464561100 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the link is there, after all... just not where I'm looking) < 1464563620 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? invincible < 1464563632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invincible? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464564002 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION zzZzZzzZzZ < 1464564302 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464564584 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noun set has 13 senses (first 7 from tagged texts) < 1464564587 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The verb set has 25 senses (first 14 from tagged texts) < 1464564589 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The adj set has 7 senses (first 4 from tagged texts) < 1464564603 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In WordNet. Of course OED goes for a lot more obscure meanings. < 1464564654 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As for lead, 17 senses for the noun and 14 for the verb in WordNet.) < 1464564735 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many related, of course. < 1464564797 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464564819 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I just realized I can't use the university library's OED subscription much longer. < 1464565580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464565653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464565929 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? manager < 1464565935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manager? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464565967 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1464566536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464566798 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn mason jar/A Mason jar is a jar made by someone named Mason. < 1464566810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «mason jar» < 1464566839 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngjkwvypagsiehzc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I speak to Mason, then? This jar is broken. < 1464566853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoily! < 1464567008 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whell whell whellœrjan! < 1464567057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we seem to meet only about every 3 days < 1464567075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Manager FAQ (by seebs) at http://www.seebs.net/faqs/manager.html < 1464567079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'manager': Manager FAQ (by seebs) at http://www.seebs.net/faqs/manager.html < 1464567092 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hacker < 1464567094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464567124 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was exceptionaly busy lately hthly < 1464567130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hacker/Jim Hacker is a former British prime minister. < 1464567133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hacker» < 1464567209 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have designed a 134-bit VLIW microcode. < 1464567233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wtf yafgc (don't read today's if you're not caught up and hate spoilers) < 1464567539 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yafgc < 1464567540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yafgc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464567551 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet Another Fungot Got Cherries? < 1464567562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic < 1464567575 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic. tdh. < 1464567576 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also a kind of OISC VLIW < 1464567633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the current arc is extremely dark, and that's for a comic whose original main characters are _evil_ d&d monsters... < 1464567664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's since grown a large number of good characters as well) < 1464567692 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: *yawns* < 1464567721 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. can't read it. clashing with my vegan aura. < 1464567728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1464567738 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1464567743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also occasionally nsfw, but it's sunday so... < 1464567867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's it's 10th anniversary btw and the author decided to make that coincide with a very major event. < 1464567963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think your vegan aura chickened out years ago, anyway. < 1464568001 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an aura, nothing substantial. < 1464568006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464568021 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentaly made vegan food for supper >_>'... < 1464568029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a carnivore aura but even lighter? < 1464568058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume that the itymology of "it's" is "its" < 1464568066 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vegan aura doesn't even cast a ghostly shadow. < 1464568067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1464568086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i blame the "today's" affecting my neurons < 1464568256 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itymology < 1464568259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itymology is the science of understanding the true meaning of a statement. < 1464568269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464568278 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464568436 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1464568454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < i use my shipping wall to track pairs of people who are items < 1464568461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me an itemologist, of course < 1464568553 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1464568564 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do < 1464568608 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chillaxing while the AC does its thing. < 1464568653 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it will have done its thing in an hour or two. just started it; it's become disturbingly humid.) < 1464568657 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1464568658 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 292300Z 16011KT 15SM FEW080 SCT120 OVC250 26/19 A2993 RMK AC1AC2CI5 SLP136 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1464568661 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi all < 1464568666 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hidu! < 1464568680 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do I know you? < 1464568691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1464568692 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been coerced into someone elses family gathering < 1464568712 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your family? someone else's family? will you survive? < 1464568717 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it an unsafe coerce? < 1464568742 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1464568742 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My name is Andrew, but you may call me adu, you may not call me abu, if you do I will ignore you for all of time < 1464568800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why about your father? < 1464568814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I call your father abu adu? < 1464568830 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's condition sounds scary. < 1464568847 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Why about" is not english, what is your native language? < 1464568856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "What about". < 1464568869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was only my fingers being affected by oerjan's neurons. < 1464568874 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why about" makes perfect sense hth. < 1464568883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time adu < 1464568884 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for adu is 2016-05-29 19:42:08 -0400 < 1464568895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an east coaster! < 1464568906 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about east coasters? < 1464568914 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :East Coast Best Coast :D < 1464568928 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, California is where it's at ;) < 1464568933 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfeuh :P < 1464568947 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you meant "psfph" < 1464568959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not to be confused with , I suppose. < 1464568977 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, indeed not. < 1464568982 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what coast is that? < 1464568985 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: that was a French «pfeuh». < 1464569026 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my timezone is EST, but my heart is in PST < 1464569037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Easter coast. < 1464569044 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: come extract me < 1464569048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost an east coaster. < 1464569064 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that even *more* east than the east coast? < 1464569099 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd if=quintopia.iso of=/dev/KATL bs=4M conv=noerror < 1464569100 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :sertie < 1464569104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2013/09/coast-coaster-set-east-2-460x460.jpg hth < 1464569123 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he he he :D < 1464569132 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :surtie < 1464569144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Bad news, Canada isn't part of the east coast. < 1464569147 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: wait. you aren't KATLing anymore. < 1464569147 0 :sertie!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1464569153 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :sertie < 1464569161 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you say Klingon? < 1464569163 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we're appröximatively eastcoastal. < 1464569178 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: nope. I haven't learned Klingon yet. < 1464569200 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: good, neither have I, I spent too much time learning Haskell < 1464569229 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1464569238 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to mountain time < 1464569308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tlhask hol < 1464569427 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other Haskell fans here? < 1464569478 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, we hate haskell by and large < 1464569494 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any Rust fans in here? < 1464569500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is confused, he thinks haskell is a brainfuck derivative < 1464569505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Sgeo  < 1464569523 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oerjan hi adu < 1464569527 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a Rust fan < 1464569533 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: cool < 1464569556 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made several libraries for Rust including take_mut < 1464569563 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1464569564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "No Haskellers here" < 1464569566 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No Haskellers here < 1464569583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DJMcMayhem 5* 10New user account < 1464569591 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done very little in Rust, mainly because I have no time, but what I have done has shown me it's an incredibly productive language < 1464569613 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: you should try Java. < 1464569617 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is also productive, but it's too easy to make crap in it < 1464569636 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is for crappy people to make crappy software, no thanks < 1464569668 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes *ahem* with the generic Go criticism that Go has no generics < 1464569685 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I never said that < 1464569690 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is p okay < 1464569691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that I'd rather write Java than Go. < 1464569720 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, some Java libraries can be painful in ways the language doesn't force < 1464569727 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: unless you're talking about my blog: http://straymindcough.blogspot.com/2011/01/golang-proposals.html < 1464569748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, the average Java culture is surely worse than the Java language. < 1464569751 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall one standard lib api returning null instead of an empty list for something < 1464569766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: btw shachaf and Taneb wrote about half of lens, i think. < 1464569774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1464569775 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens < 1464569786 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you mean what I think you mean? < 1464569787 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1464569791 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan! hi < 1464569792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: probably. < 1464569823 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in every function is attached to it's own undo function? < 1464569829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also above statement _may_ be wildly exaggerated. i'm just not sure of it.) < 1464569837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: wait, you know haskell but not lens? < 1464569852 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: apparently < 1464569858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1464569866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey i was writing that < 1464569892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe you'd know more if you joined #haskell-lens hth < 1464569901 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's haskell-lens? < 1464569948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric programming language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47084&oldid=44813 5* 03DJMcMayhem 5* (+374) 10Added description of "Golfing languages" < 1464569988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes but then my brain would get regularly overloaded tdnh < 1464570019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: it's the channel for the real haskell experts hth < 1464570032 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym twnh hth hand < 1464570054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twnh -- owi? < 1464570063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you trying to make a tense moment? < 1464570071 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I stopped using Haskell around 2010, possibly because I read a paper by Oleg detailing how to construct a Hashtable purely on the type level, without using any memory, and my brain exploded < 1464570099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: ah. a lot has happened since then. < 1464570150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays you probably don't even need to be Oleg to do that. < 1464570156 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464570203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan isn't letting on how he uses all sorts of fancy type system extensions to exploit GHC bugs as a hobby < 1464570222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was _last_ winter, sheesh. < 1464570224 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want solid software < 1464570242 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Rust is better at delivering it than Haskell < 1464570243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have hardly touched haskell since october, when my computer crashed. < 1464570248 0 :surtie!?@? NICK :hydraz < 1464570253 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why did it crash? < 1464570255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are those related? < 1464570259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need a computer? < 1464570272 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can send you a linux netbook < 1464570273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. i never installed ghc on the new hard disk. < 1464570289 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But you can just Haskell it up on the computer you use for IRC. < 1464570319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not sure they would appreciate me installing ghc as a user... < 1464570325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1464570327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh they might not even notice. < 1464570334 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can install GHC in your home directory, no problem. < 1464570337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the admins on the machine i irc from... < 1464570344 0 :sertie!?@? NICK :hcddwch < 1464570439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: hard disk sector error, somewhere in the middle of the OS. < 1464570447 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464570468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could boot it, and use it, but i couldn't leave it alone for 10 minutes without it rebooting. < 1464570487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You could install GHC 8 now. < 1464570494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And provide the rest of us with a trip report. < 1464570507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know. maybe when i get that far in /r/haskell. < 1464570560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you read reddit, though < 1464570563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :installing ghc 8.0.1 is easy < 1464570564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a scow website < 1464570566 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464570576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Like a monoid? < 1464570585 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've built lambdabot with it (patching a few packages on the way), but not dared to test it. < 1464570595 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464570625 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1464570640 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/issues/145 < 1464570657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should upgrade lambdabot to ghc 8 so i can try it out twh < 1464570685 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on it... but I need sleep < 1464570696 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so next weekend... hopefully < 1464570712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes github had responsive web pages < 1464570782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464570801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What pages do you wish were responsive? < 1464570861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like the one int-e linked, when i zoom it doesn't reflow < 1464570892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to upgrade your eyes to use github < 1464570900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAA < 1464570910 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes there was something as good as Google Code Search < 1464570935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm pretty sure trying to use github was what _really_ crashed my computer. < 1464570968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad crashing auras. < 1464571039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464571353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464571359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas hehe, even John Baez reports about the small Turing machines stuff in his blog: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/diary/ <-- he already wrote about it in his _other_ blog < 1464571359 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464571439 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, new small TM stuff? < 1464571504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think it's just what i already saw < 1464571528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, Stefan O'Rear delivered on his promise that he could improve the bounds < 1464571540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it wasn't linked here but https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/05/21/the-busy-beaver-game/ < 1464571557 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two weeks ago, but I had not seen it anyway. < 1464571584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i found it from aaronson's blog at it wasn't mentioned directly here < 1464571589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1464571664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he has a new blog post about very long proofs < 1464571756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/very-long-proofs/ < 1464571779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders whether to bite the bullet and subscribe to the rss < 1464571832 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use to track rss feeds these days? < 1464571840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you hear ddarius has one of these post websites too now < 1464571852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i just use IE? < 1464571863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: er, wat < 1464571879 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that fully open source FPGA toolchain does exist, for use with iCE40 FPGAs. I don't know if this toolchain is compatible with non-x86 computers, but I expect it could probably be ported if you want to. < 1464571880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a website with posts < 1464571901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls the nick ddarius but not why he should be particularly interested. < 1464571929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1464571957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i don't recall anything about the nick other than _maybe_ a vague haskell vibe. < 1464571996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this person http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/user/1510 < 1464572033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1464572520 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464573314 0 :hcddwch!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1464573380 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FRIDAY CHICKEN < 1464574683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently VAX microcode is 188-bits VLIW, which is what User:Ian wrote at least < 1464574740 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see, how many parameters does my neural net have, again? It's... < 1464574788 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let s = 144 in (256+1)*s + 6*(s+1)*s + (s+1)*256 < 1464574790 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 199408 < 1464574814 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be neat if it managed to memorize this tinyshakespeare file. < 1464574842 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that's impossible. < 1464574925 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinyshakespeare has about 1.1 million characters. English text tends to have an entropy of roughly approximately 1 bit per character. That means this file has about a million bits of entropy. < 1464574990 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464575872 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464575875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? infidel < 1464575902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infidel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464575918 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464575961 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464576086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An infidel is someone who doesn't support the great former leader. Socialismo o muerte! < 1464576103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'infidel': An infidel is someone who doesn't support the great former leader. Socialismo o muerte! < 1464576374 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :User:Ian also wrote that SHARC has hardware COME FROM; how does that work? < 1464577903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464577914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, it's undecidable whether two finite state transducers are equivalent? < 1464578008 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1464578041 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464578057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464578122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eel < 1464578126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eek < 1464578140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hovercraft < 1464578147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur. If you mention eels, you'll get smacked with one of them in a most unappropriate manner. < 1464578248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is hovercraft the dual of minecraft < 1464578260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1464578291 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's yourscraft < 1464578608 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1464578643 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464579278 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464579490 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464579555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464579566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :514) When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a monad. < 1464579577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :705) you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES < 1464579578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8) Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? not yet trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence < 1464579579 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :919) DIE oh hey elliott < 1464579580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :602) Yeah, statistics with 2 data points is science. Statistics with one data point is crap. You measure a third point if you need an error estimate. < 1464579603 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464579608 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too biased to take action here < 1464579727 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464579845 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how that Madelon quote got there. < 1464580189 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:3818:7e0a:b881:2e27 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hai < 1464580945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think way back, HackEgo used to be on another channel and some of the oldest quotes have lingered. < 1464582289 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1464582391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464582590 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464582717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand what I wrote about the microcodes of my new kind of computer design by now? < 1464582808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't think I even read it. < 1464582816 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURN < 1464582821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1464582835 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk it sounded like a burn < 1464582847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a burn? < 1464582848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An insult? < 1464582872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464582872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then read and see what it says. I don't know all of the what it work so hopefully other people can help it too < 1464582899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is this about VAX microcode? < 1464582927 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn < 1464582950 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean my own design < 1464584329 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-223-204.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464585073 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464585380 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1464585653 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464585848 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1464589624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype A = A deriving Typeable < 1464589624 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: newtype declaration constructor must have exactly one parameter. < 1464589640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype A = A Int deriving Typeable < 1464589643 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1464589644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1464589659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was hoping for a warning < 1464589758 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What warning? < 1464589766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that it's automatic? < 1464589780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464589832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's a set of new pragmas that are affecting deriving, and i'm wondering if they've considered Typeable. < 1464589864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that seems like an awfully pragmatic thing for you to worry about hth < 1464589924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't want them to open up the Typeable hole again... < 1464589955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype A = A Int deriving {-# GND #-} Typeable would do that if it worked. < 1464590055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION submits a comment < 1464590055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it irritating how bug 10000 was marked as a duplicate < 1464590068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://phabricator.haskell.org/D2280 btw < 1464590073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before I reported it no one was thinking of it as a security issue. < 1464590091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shocking < 1464590177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shocking < 1464590181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464590209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what about Data? i don't know enough about that to know if that could be dangerous. oh well. < 1464590220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they seem to have considered Generic.) < 1464590280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does this wikipedia entry not have an english version twh https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A7_(%D7%90%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A8) < 1464590350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god it has a norwegian one < 1464590443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464590469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the norwegian wikipedia doesn't support the en: prefix :( < 1464590495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the en: prefix? < 1464590524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sends you to the english wikipedia < 1464590532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the search box < 1464590555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything support that? < 1464590580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, English wikipedia support no: < 1464590582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :supports < 1464590596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I have to be mildly self-conscious about mistyping anything. < 1464590600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to adu. < 1464590602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, adu. < 1464590614 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464590631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, it works for me. < 1464590638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... why do we use the metre-kilogram-second? I'd much prefer if we had some kilogram-equivalent unit that is a base unit < 1464590643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=en:No < 1464590693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Units are meant for people to use and only incidentally for physicists to execute. < 1464590710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it doesn't work in the search box for me < 1464590732 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, it works in the search box for me. < 1464590761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1464590768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sheesh < 1464590770 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464590809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sheeesh < 1464590812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheeesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464590812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway, it looks like the english "leg" is ambiguous between meaning that or the whole leg < 1464590839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the article for "human leg" connects to other wikipedia's latter meaning < 1464590849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-' < 1464590853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1464590854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+' < 1464590875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, the hebrew word is "shok" hth < 1464590885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hysterical raisins hth < 1464590961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the "Planck Value"? The minimum amount of moneyness? :P < 1464590976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the norwegian is "legg". < 1464590982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is moneyness? < 1464590986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you pricing derivatives? < 1464590991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell \oren\. < 1464590995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sure < 1464591004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can I tell /oren/ though? < 1464591019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look. < 1464591028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1464591029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't destroy the US economy. < 1464591035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1464591056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How would I destroy the US economy? < 1464591058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should be destroyed. < 1464591064 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Too late. < 1464591067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With complicated derivatives, I hear. < 1464591079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hodgell would probably be in favor of destroying it. < 1464591084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm setting the Planck Value at the price of one Planck Energy's worth of electricity. There. < 1464591111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this time, use complex integrals hth < 1464591119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Planck Minimum Wage is 1 Planck Value per Planck Time < 1464591141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by marxism, value = work so it should be the planck energy hth < 1464591170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: DAMN YOU MARXIST SCUM < 1464591174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1464591180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like this planck value is priced by the market. < 1464591208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not really; we assume maximum efficiency with generation < 1464591233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And that the market sells at the exact amount of value it takes to produce, which is obviously not correct, but lets pretend it is < 1464591239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*let's < 1464591249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> editDistance "marxist" "market" < 1464591253 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncindence? < 1464591269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's 3 < 1464591279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, assuming deletions cost as much as replacements < 1464591292 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something to do, invent a derivative that lets me hedge and bet on future liquidity. < 1464591295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh < 1464591302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Planck Laziness? < 1464591336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose planck laziness is... hm... < 1464591347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously about avoiding doing one planck energy's worth of work < 1464591362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to model liquidity nonlinearly. < 1464591371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But solidity can be modeled with a matrix. < 1464591389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What's the Wooden Planck? < 1464591449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts on his anti-swatter helmet < 1464591464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want something to do, figure out how to set the tick size (minimum price increment) for a market. < 1464591484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a tricky question. You don't want it too fine or too coarse. < 1464591500 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :US equity markets use $0.01 as the tick size since ~2000. Before that I think they used $⅛? < 1464591502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's easy; just become a politician and get other politicians to vote to set it to the desired value < 1464591587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, from the perspective of someone who wants a market that achieves the goals that society wants it to achieve, figure out how to decide on a tick size. < 1464591605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's also easy; consult your nearest mathematician < 1464591620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would mathematicians know? < 1464591634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because they can math very well < 1464591644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, there needs to be a Mathematician General in the US. Someone to put warnings on lottery tickets) < 1464591647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all you're going to do is make jokes in #esoteric, at least make them good jokes. < 1464591659 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Too tired to be funny < 1464591672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just hit 22:00 here < 1464591685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :amateur < 1464591690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1464591694 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Mon May 30 08:01:30 2016 < 1464591723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're too tired to be funny, it's a good cue to stop making jokes. < 1464591727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1464591728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Pfft. It doesn't measure down to the planck time, and it doesn't measure since the big bang. < 1464591730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *fine* < 1464591734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'm just too much of a grouch. < 1464591821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a holiday in Alaska tomorrow. < 1464591825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have no excuse anyway. < 1464593416 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:3818:7e0a:b881:2e27 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464593706 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1464593795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm too much of a grouch nowadays. < 1464595498 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464595953 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464596058 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464596119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464596242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464596703 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464596809 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464596911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464597208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Etc. < 1464597850 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464598981 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the heck do splash screens (for software starting up) use always on top windows? < 1464599959 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bragging rights < 1464600043 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU wasting < 1464600068 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasting CPU: It's the new optimization! < 1464600298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Maximngy 5* 10New user account < 1464600711 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18d:bfb3:e8e9:6840 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464600975 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:18d:bfb3:e8e9:6840 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464601645 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I hate wordpress. Its web interface makes it so difficult to list or find earlier blog entries. < 1464601651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why's everyone using it? < 1464602052 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464602143 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vebhbfxhrbhgpmdr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464602228 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because everyone's using it < 1464602335 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that seems a tautology, but... < 1464602344 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody uses it because everybody uses it < 1464603043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07++brainfuck++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47085 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+1447) 10++brainfuck++ writed by me < 1464603069 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464603081 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no, I think it's more like that the rest of the people use google's blogger, which is almost as bad. it also doesn't let you list or find old posts. < 1464603117 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. just write a Lua script to compile your blog into a static site. problem solved. < 1464603146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no compile problems, and Lua seems to be rather portable so you don't have to worry about GEM NOT FOUND < 1464603181 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why bother with external libraries) < 1464603395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I know there are good blog sites. I'm just complaining because most aren't, and as a reader, it's sometimes easier to just download the entire fucking blog and do a local search to find something. < 1464603419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't mean full text search. I can't even list the titles of article titles through the web interface. < 1464603428 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither wordpress nor blogger allows that. < 1464603435 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: did you ever use lua for not-so-small programs? < 1464603453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just showing the last few articles, and hides everything else quite well. < 1464603459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: A few times. < 1464603470 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I've found Lua patterns to be very useful for parsing... < 1464603519 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done so, and the overall experience was quite painful < 1464603538 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for one data point: I've worked through 300K lines of Lua code at the daily job) < 1464603551 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :300K? Ok, that might be much < 1464603568 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and overall quality of Lua libraries is close to abysmal < 1464603578 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... depends which libraries... < 1464603588 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464603596 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :io.popen's downright stupid "read or write, pick one!" < 1464603605 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. even basic libraries got that wrong < 1464603635 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again that's not actually Lua's fault < 1464603655 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :popen's a wrapper around C stdlib popen which is equally broken < 1464603712 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: right. but unlike C you are forced to use another bindings for that purpose, and I think there are not always bindings for such mistakes < 1464603718 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for covering such mistakes up, I meant < 1464603740 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: os.time was another catch for me < 1464603760 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lua 5.3 doesn't, but prior versions were not thread-safe < 1464603769 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gave some confusing values from time to time < 1464603775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1464603779 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gulps < 1464603785 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: localtime, not localtime_r. this explains all < 1464603792 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've never had that myself but it's worrying < 1464603850 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of mistakes. it is fine to make mistakes, just give us a way of fix things *in place*! < 1464603886 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think even the most recent release of Lua 5.2 had this bug (and we had to use Lua 5.1 for, uh, some reason) < 1464603916 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even more fun caused by Lua's obsession with the standard library, though.. < 1464603933 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is even no real compatibility between minor versions < 1464603936 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ability to list directories < 1464603948 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I've never encountered problems with compatibility myself, but ok < 1464603967 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard library is full of holes, but so is C stdlib... < 1464603972 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: if you look at manuals for Lua 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3, the list of functions is very similar-looking and yet slightly different < 1464603979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Maximngy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47086 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+226) 10Created page with "Hi!!!

I'm programmer on Python, Small Basic, work in Arduino IDE (language based on C) and PHP DevelStudio

Thats esoteric languages wroted by me :

* [https://eso..." < 1464603980 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that alone is a barrier for compatibility < 1464603998 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot safely run 5.1 code in 5.2 or 5.3 < 1464604033 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kind of ignorance that even PHP does not have < 1464604083 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might just be lucky, but I haven't run into those problems. < 1464604090 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough rants. Lua is in theory good for what it's good for, but in reality (even for supposed uses) I think it is worse. < 1464604146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for embedding behavior at least it hasn't managed too badly - it doesn't have the massive weight of Python's standard libraries, for one... < 1464604151 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while I was working with 300K loc project in the daily job, I also worked in much smaller scale and the problem remained so...) < 1464604239 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I see that is partly a fetishism; you can definitely have a reasonable set of features without dependency and platform hell, SQLite did that fine for example. < 1464604411 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I once wondered to the point that the whole Lua fiasco^Wproject is for fueling projects to PUC-Rio :S < 1464604447 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be partly true (not "fiasco" part though), as many initial libraries for Lua were developed from PUC-Rio < 1464604471 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention that the libraries were of questionable quality IMO < 1464604541 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "initial libraries", do you mean the standard library or modules? < 1464604552 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: nope---something like LuaSocket I meant. < 1464604564 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464604582 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have either questionable quality or questionable design choice, sometimes both < 1464604601 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they do not work well together < 1464604651 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, LuaSocket had made a questionable choice to implement socket timeout with select < 1464604670 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works, but quite different from what we normally expect < 1464604697 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that choice breaks down when LuaSocket is used with LuaSec (no proper timeout for TLS connection, what the fuck) < 1464604718 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read the docs on client:receive < 1464604724 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed it and made it worse < 1464604793 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: it also returns a no-one-would-know third return! < 1464604819 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly - in the case of, say, a gopher server automatically closing the connection after send < 1464604819 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is downright strange < 1464604825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably lose data if you weren't really careful < 1464604835 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I knew that since I once stepped over that brick, fuck) < 1464604856 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, enough rants really < 1464604857 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1464604863 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't mind < 1464604876 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the rest of the channel minds then that's a problem < 1464604895 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll agree with you LuaSocket looks nuts just by the definition of client:receive < 1464604938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom_hooover < 1464604946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: when are you going to fix haskellwiki < 1464604957 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the kind of thing that should probably be wrapped, so that it returns the data, and then the error on the next call < 1464604960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hooover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464604985 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference is a race condition anyway... < 1464605305 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : (lifthrasiir here, moving to mobile) I was at least fortunate to be able to work on Lua type checker though, the entire team was REALLY frustrated over Lua < 1464605464 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464605485 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume_: one quick search to figure out how such a dramatic nickname change could occur < 1464605494 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, forgot the * * < 1464605498 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :around that last line < 1464605557 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume_: Noted. < 1464605763 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj : I have some dozens of nicknames < 1464605813 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot! < 1464605841 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep to "gamemanj". Or if I'm trying to be sneaky, I append "-" and then the English name of a greek letter. < 1464605913 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464607840 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464609335 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464609372 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464609487 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1464609504 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464609618 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1464609792 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464610390 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464610681 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TWICE CHICKEN < 1464612904 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.223.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464613345 0 :ocharles_!?@? NICK :ocharles < 1464613362 0 :ocharles!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aaiabswkczwsnbye QUIT :Changing host < 1464613362 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1464613536 0 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.223.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464615199 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464615507 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464619639 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464619641 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464619647 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1464619678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadrilateral//Don't you mean "tetrapleur"? < 1464619678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dark Offering \ 4BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy target nonblack creature. You gain 3 life. \ P2-U, S99-U < 1464619678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pineapple; \ water until lightly blended over and remove from pan. Add \ strands of butter, mixed well, adding the oil, oregano, beater over low \ heat, covered, for 15 minutes. \ Store in a bowl, add the sugar, carrots, and \ shortening. \ \ Recipe By : \ \ MMMMM \ \ MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 \ \ Title: EMPSPUTETS < 1464619699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1464619700 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n \ its take it to feed been and all the vegetables. \ Add the ice apple beans, with, onion, and pepper. Pour in the \ 2 tablespoon of the whipped cream into the pan in lightly floured \ get and deep flour and including for 1 hour. Top with side of \ the sugar, chopped fresh chop more. \ \ Recipe By : Low-Bobbie Cooking \ \ MMMMM \ \ MM < 1464619707 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that was quick < 1464619709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1464619938 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464620554 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It usually *is* quick after it's been pre-warmed. < 1464620648 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda-sorta out of memory: http://sprunge.us/DYBA < 1464620830 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not so sure as to why. RSS'es of all processes sum up to 537148k only. < 1464621162 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1464621184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I make a bot to continuously pre-warn him and keep everything cached in? < 1464621224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c / | sha1sum < 1464621257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Removing leading `/' from member names \ tar: /sys/fs/ext4/features/meta_bg_resize: File shrank by 4096 bytes; padding with zeros \ tar: /sys/fs/ext4/features/batched_discard: File shrank by 4096 bytes; padding with zeros \ tar: /sys/fs/ext4/features/lazy_itable_init: File shrank by 4096 bytes; padding with zeros \ tar: /sys/bus/cpu/uevent: Ca < 1464621288 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor HackEgo < 1464621345 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c / --warning=none | wc -c < 1464621354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well the HackEgo VM is competing with other VMs on the same host... you won't see that inside the VM. < 1464621379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Removing leading `/' from member names \ tar: /sys/bus/cpu/uevent: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/cpu/drivers_probe: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/clocksource/uevent: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/clocksource/drivers_probe: Cannot open: Permission denied \ tar: /sys/bus/workqueue/uevent: Cannot < 1464621397 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` du -s / 2>/dev/null < 1464621426 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mount < 1464621438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I said --warning=none! why does it still warn < 1464621440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1464621447 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c / 2>/dev/null | wc -c < 1464621450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: those are errros < 1464621452 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :errors even < 1464621479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621489 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably times out before it can read everything < 1464621497 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c . 2>/dev/null | wc -c && echo home < 1464621507 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c ~ 2>/dev/null | wc -c && echo really home < 1464621530 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is running it several times simultaneously supposed to help? < 1464621542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10240 \ really home < 1464621542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621553 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1464621560 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: stop contradicting me! < 1464621595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar c . 2>/dev/null | wc -c && pwd < 1464621624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1464621633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464621633 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1464621855 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you possibly maybe not do that? < 1464621871 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464621889 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sorry, I'll stop now < 1464623151 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card creature(?s:.*)suspend 1 < 1464623153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rift Bolt \ 2R \ Sorcery \ Rift Bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player. \ Suspend 1--{R} (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay {R} and exile it with a time counter on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost.) \ TSP-C, MMA-C < 1464623163 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1464623167 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^creature(?s:.*)suspend 1 < 1464623168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greater Gargadon \ 9R \ Creature -- Beast \ 9/7 \ Suspend 10--{R} \ Sacrifice an artifact, creature, or land: Remove a time counter from Greater Gargadon. Activate this ability only if Greater Gargadon is suspended. \ TSP-R, MMA-R < 1464623193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^creature(?s:.*)suspend 1\b < 1464623194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nantuko Shaman \ 2G \ Creature -- Insect Shaman \ 3/2 \ When Nantuko Shaman enters the battlefield, if you control no tapped lands, draw a card. \ Suspend 1--{2}{G}{G} (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay {2}{G}{G} and exile it with a time counter on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is rem < 1464623298 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464623846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly tricky card < 1464623893 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the shaman) < 1464624249 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464624453 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-azqfsqajgxevmqzi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1464624497 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kuebcdstxujarofp JOIN :#esoteric < 1464624952 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fthqkgldpuaqfdcw JOIN :#esoteric < 1464625059 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464627630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464627711 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464628545 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isans thinr by royiof, the hawentem, will things, go rornase than shall you re sinlesh as urony. What I Mistrur, than wome mordy their'fn jome I bierion I topenduo'maves dafe Deathele to goort sensect. < 1464628562 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess English vocabulary is kind of a big thing to learn. < 1464628611 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did successfully include a bunch of common words: by the will things go than shall you as what I than their I to < 1464628900 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of its attempts at putting in rare words have resulted in words that are plausible but wrong. Presumably, as the training continues, it will start to be able to produce real words. < 1464629180 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iplayif.com/?story=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifarchive.org%2Fif-archive%2Fgames%2Fzcode%2Fgostak.z5 < 1464629255 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a very elaborate riddle? < 1464629299 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even recognise any of the dapes I type in < 1464629313 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a jallon, louk JALLON. < 1464629507 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will doatch at you about some heamy dapes. < 1464630585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464631251 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, if you tunk the "heamy dapes" fesh. < 1464632102 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464632151 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out how to make it so my shamtag rasks the pogrifon again. < 1464632231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464632508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1665/ might be my favorite xkcd to date. < 1464632518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1128/ is just disturbing < 1464632623 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464632750 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464632821 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nah, 1665 is totally unrealistic, no talk page has headings summarizing the content so cleanly. < 1464632840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but it's funny < 1464632847 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the content might be what's listed there, but you won't be able to find any of that from the toc < 1464632851 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for those fake decoy talk pages that people make to make something seem well-discussed. < 1464633000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ...That's a thing? < 1464633007 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know of < 1464633012 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone get the socks! < 1464633047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, better, someone get a neural net to do it for us < 1464633390 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464633418 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fire alarm cause & effect testing in progress -- sounders & life safety system will be tested persistently". < 1464633647 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right... I'm gonna need to make a spreadsheet that glosses all these words. < 1464633697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: just put the explanations right into the wisdoms < 1464633708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shamtag < 1464633710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rask < 1464633710 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting idea. < 1464633715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pogrifon < 1464633719 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heamy < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rask? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pogrifon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shamtag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heamy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633793 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A shamtag is something that you durch in order to make it flome. < 1464633798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'shamtag': A shamtag is something that you durch in order to make it flome. < 1464633819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mimsy < 1464633820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mimsy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brillig < 1464633826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brillig? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464633837 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A pogrifon is stim for a gostak's shamtag. < 1464633841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'pogrifon': A pogrifon is stim for a gostak's shamtag. < 1464633856 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The gostak distims the doshes. < 1464633860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gostak': The gostak distims the doshes. < 1464633885 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464633888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'doshe': The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464633897 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv wisdom/doshe wisdom/dosh < 1464633898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `wisdom/doshe wisdom/dosh' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1464633904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464633907 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/doshe wisdom/dosh < 1464633910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464633914 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dosh < 1464633915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464633924 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s dosh wisdom/doshes < 1464633926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464634023 0 :augur!~augur@108-239-230-147.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464634353 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464634610 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Don Giovanni < 1464634612 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don Giovanni? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464634637 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ward < 1464634639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ward? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464634654 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1464634669 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :immen ndena taba thrift csdini decresslin pare ulp vocer craffecterrar clural gai hmf gree proflt rie stat mecora sch itr < 1464634680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --american 20 < 1464634681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: american < 1464635236 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464635237 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464635319 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-us 90 < 1464635324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceratlond eusonfolke rab harian uni stari appp keparaded ofsne profen cesser westict sobenepa loake kamorp comountamaz treretermn gilliously impigal hydrania spact kosckscal kriihip forsat conre < 1464635325 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane 90 < 1464635327 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1464635328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saeidlade uncarbonalitatine ikawate julidegri sauthed unedly costalched unency bent pine halah coke wiredicologic lavarizati smayde bowl namilao hup jifframen oosemioma ola smooric tromersher kooltman weeding < 1464635328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1464635387 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jifframen" -- hmm, is that a food? < 1464635391 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464635782 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1464636187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464636509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Shadowfacts; the most noble of knights < 1464636527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://xkcd.com/1272/) < 1464636602 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a second. < 1464636611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yep. < 1464636618 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois shadowfacts < 1464636676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1464636698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: The joke is that shadowfacts is a horse, but the correct term is "knight" < 1464636709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nerdy chess joke goddammit < 1464637081 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blank < 1464637083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blank? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464637319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn blank/ < 1464637323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «blank» < 1464637327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blank < 1464637328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464637332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There < 1464637934 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.nichtlustig.de/toondb/030128.html (doesn't translate very well...) < 1464637979 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "you better move away from there or the hors will attack you" < 1464637982 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse. < 1464638338 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that's a bad joke hth < 1464638689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464639343 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fthqkgldpuaqfdcw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464639642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a rough guideline, if you have to explain it it's not a joke. < 1464639682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1464639738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :50) hmm, this is hard < 1464639738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464639738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1192) dude's made a career out of building electronic things out of slime molds. i respect that < 1464639739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :583) where is this going. why is this going. < 1464639739 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :926) not only there is no God, but try to find an APL keyboard on Sunday. < 1464639782 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf @ apl keyboard < 1464639826 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL is a weird language < 1464639832 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a lot of special symbols < 1464639867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely the second one. < 1464640134 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464640196 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1464640247 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464642480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464642534 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1464642552 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1464642560 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464642563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vitaspore Thallid \ 1G \ Creature -- Fungus \ 1/1 \ At the beginning of your upkeep, put a spore counter on Vitaspore Thallid. \ Remove three spore counters from Vitaspore Thallid: Put a 1/1 green Saproling creature token onto the battlefield. \ Sacrifice a Saproling: Target creature gains haste until end of turn. \ PLC-C < 1464642587 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cerulean Wisps \ U \ Instant \ Target creature becomes blue until end of turn. Untap that creature. \ Draw a card. \ SHM-C < 1464642590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cerulean Wisps \ U \ Instant \ Target creature becomes blue until end of turn. Untap that creature. \ Draw a card. \ SHM-C < 1464642698 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that pokemon? < 1464642705 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles < 1464642710 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1464642715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: no, it's Magic: the Gathering < 1464642728 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abjure \ U \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Abjure, sacrifice a blue permanent. \ Counter target spell. \ WL-C < 1464642732 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abjure \ U \ Instant \ As an additional cost to cast Abjure, sacrifice a blue permanent. \ Counter target spell. \ WL-C < 1464642737 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1464642741 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you repeat the result? < 1464642757 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's way more instants costing {U} than that < 1464642759 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchantment Alteration \ U \ Instant \ Attach target Aura attached to a creature or land to another permanent of that type. \ LE-C, CH-U, US-U < 1464642763 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card ^U\nInstant < 1464642764 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nix \ U \ Instant \ Counter target spell if no mana was spent to cast it. \ FUT-R < 1464642773 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the random number generator is actually a deterministic function of the time < 1464642884 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name intervene < 1464642887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intervene \ U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets a creature. \ UL-C < 1464642889 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name confound < 1464642890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confound \ 1U \ Instant \ Counter target spell that targets one or more creatures. \ Draw a card. \ PS-C < 1464642919 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464643232 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464643276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464644320 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464644362 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ykehaxqhjcxlygmu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644598 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644654 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-enlqnjglxdyokiwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1464644997 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1464645049 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464645150 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This gostak game is confusing. < 1464645738 0 :augur!~augur@108-239-230-147.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464646139 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464646143 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464646243 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1464647123 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464647142 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f451:eb27:7e43:60a6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464647322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I prefer the Russel game, where you win by losing. < 1464647390 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this channel bluff < 1464647398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: bluff? < 1464647413 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an attempt to deceive someone into believing that one can or will do something. < 1464647421 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case an attempt to be something < 1464647424 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it isnt < 1464647432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: ...no? < 1464647447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Are you a native english speaker? Because that sentence doesn't grammar. < 1464647470 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is something noun < 1464647476 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the problem with that < 1464647485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Well, there should be an "a" in there < 1464647503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a seems to be what you were looking for < 1464647522 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bluff is always in plural < 1464647523 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464647524 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sugar < 1464647530 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this channel a sugar? < 1464647533 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464647539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Oh. < 1464647549 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a channel sugar? < 1464647582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: In that case, it would be "is this channel sugar" or "is this channel made of sugar" or something like that < 1464647612 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont understand me i dont see how you can understand the esoteric < 1464647617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: But this channel is not the same as (as in, this channel is bluff and bluff is this channel) or made of "bluff", so it is "a bluff" < 1464647626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: We use english to communicate the esoteric < 1464647647 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that is bs < 1464647650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Because to explore the esoteric, one must start with something simple and non-esoteric < 1464647653 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464647656 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant switch object and subject like that < 1464647670 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hppavilion bluff? < 1464647676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I am not bluff < 1464647693 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why cant this channel be bluff < 1464647695 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was worth asking < 1464647705 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you mean to say youre not a bluff < 1464647717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: No, I was being ironic < 1464647720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1464647723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: I'm not sure; it's one of those weird little parts of english we don't understand, but that's always there < 1464647741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bluff" is what something... hm... < 1464647747 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: this channel is no bluff though < 1464647748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I'm thinking < 1464647750 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf 64+"!dlroW ,olleH">:#,_@ < 1464647750 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1464647757 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe that was a bluff < 1464647768 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ befunge 64+"!dlroW ,olleH">:#,_@ < 1464647777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: I think it's because "bluff" is primarily a verb, maybe? < 1464647778 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@befunge 64+"!dlroW ,olleH">:#,_@ < 1464647778 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1464647787 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1464647787 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1464647793 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :argg < 1464647845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: I think the best way to explain it is... "bluff" is... a description; it isn't a type. It can't be bluff, but can be a bluff, for the same reason a dog can't be barker, but can be a barker? If we allow "barker" to be a real word describing "something that barks"? < 1464647847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess? < 1464647866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: waaaaaaait are you nerdsniping? < 1464647891 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you sniped yourself hppavilion[1] < 1464647911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Unless shovel_boss said that just to get me to, in which case he sniped me < 1464647945 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he is a visionnaire < 1464647964 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no this channel is not bluff < 1464647976 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complete bollocks < 1464648063 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464648370 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain what this channel is about < 1464648390 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464648400 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enlightenment?the topic does a poor job doing that < 1464648403 0 :^^v!~^v@172.56.11.59 QUIT :Client Quit < 1464648411 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pdf looks like its written by a schizo < 1464648441 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a notorious troll < 1464648455 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the channel's collected *cough*wisdom < 1464648482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1464648484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1464648501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: We're all about esolangs < 1464648531 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right. don't let yourself be misled by the actual discussions. < 1464648541 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you create the esoteric? < 1464648544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just join this channel to be a jerk or something? < 1464648576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, esoteric programming languages < 1464648682 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jerk < 1464648685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464648695 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you know about jerks? < 1464648696 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the phrase " broadly regarded as illegal" seems to be called gulf saint vincent as well, i think < 1464648729 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag < 1464648731 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464648744 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keith < 1464648746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keith? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464648767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you know keith bird of sixth breeze < 1464648767 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: soft money loophole, by maverick reformer? thoughts? < 1464648804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why so demanding? < 1464648805 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a) i noticed that in the us navy and marine corps use the term " black ice" is also wrong in the background is completely unfit for this article < 1464648817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1464648818 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp* youtube < 1464648825 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1464648825 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1464648830 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is that made with seadust? < 1464648830 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: this article talk page was automatically added with tlwikiproject food and drink. < 1464648831 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's why. < 1464648935 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a channel for the old esoteric, literature? < 1464648955 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real esoteric, not some made up arbitrary concepts < 1464649040 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a welcome message that talks about where you can talk about that. < 1464649051 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is this channel a sugar? or more like fat? < 1464649052 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'm coming up with some documentation of this before i fnord change anything. sweet potatoes were still indigenous to the andes of south america. either way, it is not for teenage pop-culture atheism with a fnord ( fnord) < 1464649052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not particularly welcoming right now. < 1464649105 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides the welcome message, I think there's a channel topic, a chanserv channel join notice, and a wiki. < 1464649173 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1464649177 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you remind me < 1464649189 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better refering to < 1464649215 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you often suppress your emotions? < 1464649215 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i've just added a link to the article are missing from the article. fnord 02:50, 12 march 2006 ( utc) < 1464649241 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome shovel_boss < 1464649246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shovel_boss: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1464649279 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1464649404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`topic < 1464649406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: topic: not found < 1464649409 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? topic < 1464649410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464649427 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? entrymsg < 1464649430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :entrymsg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464649443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily The wisdom entry for "cello" has slashes that should be replaced with italicization < 1464649443 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1464649465 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ENTRYMSG for #esoteric is Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Wiki: < 1464649470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'entrymsg': ENTRYMSG for #esoteric is Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Wiki: < 1464649481 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1464649484 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1464649606 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ᛁᚿ < 1464649607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1464649683 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zygohistomorphic prepromorphism < 1464649685 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A zygohistomorphic prepromorphism is used when you really need both semi-mutual recursion and history and to repeatedly apply a natural transformation as you get deeper into the functor. < 1464649794 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464649925 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beech < 1464649926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beech? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464649992 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᛦ < 1464649994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+16E6 RUNIC LETTER LONG-BRANCH-YR] < 1464650026 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, surfing on the beech... < 1464650048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pun < 1464650049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puns are fun. Ask shachaf about them. But beware of Muphry adding misspellings. < 1464650060 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pug < 1464650061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pug? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464650240 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Pugs are a breed of dogs that are overrepresented in the Sheldon webcomic. ) < 1464650275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd wisdom/pun < 1464650276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000000000: 5075 6e73 2061 7265 2066 756e 2e20 4173 Puns are fun. As \ 00000010: 6b20 7368 6163 680f 6166 2061 626f 7574 k shach.af about \ 00000020: 2074 6865 6d2e 2042 7574 2062 6577 6172 them. But bewar \ 0000030: 6520 6f66 204d 7570 6872 7920 6164 6469 e of Muphry addi \ 0000040: 6e67 206d 6973 7370 656c 6c69 6e67 732e ng misspellings < 1464650724 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1464651861 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@83-245-227-181-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1464652005 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-228-163-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464652020 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1464652685 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1464653746 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464654220 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: goto sleep; < 1464654683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464654696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a wikipedia-like site for "what should have been"? < 1464655771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1464656487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: conservapedia hth < 1464656525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Eric 5* 10New user account < 1464657079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:General disclaimer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47087&oldid=13314 5* 03Eric 5* (+43) 10 < 1464657286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:General disclaimer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47088&oldid=47087 5* 03Eric 5* (+60) 10 < 1464657733 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:General disclaimer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47089&oldid=47088 5* 03Eric 5* (+71) 10 < 1464657876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? color < 1464657890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But what's nservapedia then? < 1464657898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lor is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1464657956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a wiki of a different lor. < 1464658047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? colour < 1464658053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lour is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1464658090 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464658113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to change the entry so every word has a 'u' one letter before the end, but I don't know how to do that without fucking up the fanciousity < 1464658135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed seems like the way to do it, but I can't think of the proper way < 1464658178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall leave the advicing on this to shachaf. < 1464658186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1464658512 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1464659160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb < 1464659172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464659186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*Taneb* < 1464659193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/*Taneb* < 1464659200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1464659206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*Taneb* < 1464659208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/*Taneb*: No such file or directory < 1464659212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... < 1464659224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1464659228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember how to do it < 1464659243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that means that there isn't a file like that < 1464659250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I did it right, but I read the response wrong < 1464659256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*taneb* < 1464659259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/fundamental theorem of taneb wisdom/people who taneb is not wisdom/taneb wisdom/tanebvention wisdom/tanebventory < 1464659274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fundamental theorem of taneb < 1464659280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb states that for all strings S, if S describes a thing, then it is provable that Taneb invented the thing described by S; and, furthermore, that it is provable that there exists a string T that describes a thing that Taneb did not invent. < 1464659287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464659293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, that sounds inconsistent to me < 1464659354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall x: invented(Taneb, x) && exists x: ~invented(Taneb, x) seems to be impossible (where the domain of x is "things") < 1464659460 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1464659486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, that's an example of "omega-inconsistency" < 1464659488 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)* \)/u\1/g' wisdom/colour < 1464659490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106louur ius 10ua 1202p04henomenoun 0810fr07oum13 ou0211t050803e11ur 1313s1302p04acue 13de0503sign02e13ud0511 t101010uo140913 d1304ri08v02ue 10h12um081206an04i02tuy i07110214ns0709a0804nue an0614ud 11bri0813nug f13or08tuh t02hue n10euw05 0212ague14 ouf Cth0211u < 1464659492 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't fit. < 1464659512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you can prove something exists but also that every possible example isn't it < 1464659516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oooh, "thue" < 1464659535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...that makes no sense. < 1464659539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why is that a thing? < 1464659543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit, it's a Godel, isn't it? < 1464659561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of redundant (in the sense of being immediately followed by another) color codes in the entry. < 1464659572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because a proof has to be finite, so you cannot collect all the counterexamples into a proof no example exists < 1464659599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If you require that the word be at least 4 letters long, it'll fit < 1464659616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1464659632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not quite, although interestingly, Godel's original incompleteness proof had a weakness related to that < 1464659635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, "BDSM" describes a thing that exists. Taneb < 1464659637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1464659639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1464659644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and voluminous but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1464659651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1464659655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1464659660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes, it's inconsistent with other facts < 1464659663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM is related to sex. < 1464659671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor, Taneb didn't invent BDSM < 1464659683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor, the Fundamental Theorem of Taneb is false. < 1464659711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Taneb invent inventing things? < 1464659753 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*[a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*[a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*\)\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)* \)/\1u\5/g' wisdom/colour < 1464659755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106louur is 10a 1202p04henomenoun 0810fr07oum13 ou0211t050803e11ur 1313s1302p04acue 13de0503sign02e13ud0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02ue 10h12um081206an04i02tuy i07110214ns0709a0804nue an0614d 11bri0813nug f13or08tuh t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l < 1464659788 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no go. < 1464659795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Gray < 1464659797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gray is e common misspalling of grey. < 1464659800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Grey < 1464659801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grey? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464659849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn Grey is a common misspelling of Gey < 1464659850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1464659850 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464659869 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -e 's/\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*[a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*[a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*\)\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)* \)/\1u\5/g' -e 's/louur/lour/' -e 's/\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)/\2/g' wisdom/colour < 1464659871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C03o06lour is 10a 02p04henomenoun 10fr07oum13 ou11t03e11ur 13s02p04acue 13de03sign02e13ud11 t10o13 d04ri08v02ue 10h12um06an04i02tuy i14ns09a04nue an14d 11bri13nug f13or08tuh t02he n10ew05 12age14 of Cth11u09l10hu. < 1464659876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There we go < 1464659879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :De-redundanting it works, though. < 1464659887 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*[a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*[a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*\)\([a-z]\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)* \)/\1u\5/g' -e 's/louur/lour/' -e 's/\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)/\2/g' wisdom/colour < 1464659888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just strip the colors and add them back with rainbow afterwards? < 1464659892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? deredundantation < 1464659893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464659897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deredundantation? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464659898 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But then I'd be *changing* them. < 1464659903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1464659930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, shit < 1464659940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn Grey/Grey is a common misspelling of Gey < 1464659944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «grey» < 1464659945 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)*\(\x03[0-9][0-9]\)/\2/g' wisdom/color # let's OPTOMIZE this as well < 1464659948 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464659968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Dereduntantation is the process of making things less redundant. It is typically done with either regexes or regular expressions. < 1464659972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'dereduntantation': Dereduntantation is the process of making things less redundant. It is typically done with either regexes or regular expressions. < 1464659981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you even read the Gray entry properly, i'm skeptical < 1464659991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have. < 1464660002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It uses an e instead of every a < 1464660017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1464660018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it swaps them < 1464660023 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every e is an a, every a is an e < 1464660047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The joke for Grey is that it's a chain of misspelling; like when you click google's "Do you mean" and it has another "Do you mean" in it < 1464660077 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn Gey/I know nothing about Gey, sir. < 1464660081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «gey» < 1464660090 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? marriage < 1464660091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marriage? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464660173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did most European companies give in and legalize Gay marriage? < 1464660190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very few companies have done that. < 1464660195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1464660197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Countries < 1464660223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Marriage was made legal in the United States on 2015-06-26 < 1464660226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'marriage': Marriage was made legal in the United States on 2015-06-26 < 1464660229 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland did it very recently -- in fact, I don't think the laws are quite in yet. < 1464660242 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure there was a particular time, they just started trickling in around 2000? < 1464660243 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1464660251 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying marriage wasn't legal in the us? < 1464660275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: The joke is that gay marriage wasn't legal < 1464660283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Same-sex marriage will become legal in Finland on 1 March 2017. A bill for legalization was approved by the parliament on 12 December 2014 and signed by the President on 20 February 2015. In order to implement the law, follow-up changes in other acts were required. The legislative measure to make most of these changes was approved by the parliament on 17 February 2016 and signed by President ... < 1464660285 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1464660285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: But now that it is, there isn't a difference < 1464660289 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :... on 8 April 2016." < 1464660292 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of dates. < 1464660292 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna go to bed < 1464660306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: has finland had a partnership law for years first, like norway did? < 1464660355 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :marriage is actually a very interesting topic, it's sad that so many people have too strong opinions to care discussing it < 1464660355 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, though it wasn't *quite* equal to marriage when it came to some things like adoption. Pretty close, though. < 1464660356 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464660371 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "for years" is a bit debatable, it's only been since 2002. < 1464660371 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, not marriage itself, but the involvement of the state in marriage < 1464660379 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœrjan. < 1464660380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhoily! < 1464660385 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1464660385 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 3h 2m 21s ago: The wisdom entry for "cello" has slashes that should be replaced with italicization < 1464660417 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. good call! did I add you to the cocoonspirators? < 1464660454 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1464660487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No? < 1464660487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: neither was the norwegian one. < 1464660570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the you should become one! for the low low price of your github account name! < 1464660589 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No. < 1464660599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm not falling into your tarp < 1464660619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you have a tarp for people to fall into anyway. < 1464660652 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Finland#/media/File:Same_sex_marriage_map_Europe_detailed.svg implies that same-sex marriages become unregistered if you get on a boat on a lake. < 1464660692 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you have to take your ring off everytime you board a boat on a lake? < 1464660714 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the question's entirely undefined if it's a sea. < 1464660715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What if you swim? < 1464660718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds prone to accidents. < 1464660799 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: tarp? nah, I ain't got no tarp, eh? < 1464660834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah; the sea doesn't even exist on the map < 1464660865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wait, have you checked for alpha filters? Maybe the ocean does it secretly, so it's invisible < 1464661136 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot who plays magic besides zzo38 in this here chännel... < 1464661442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/dosh < 1464661448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like reading Fox News because it reminds me how much stupider I could be and makes me happy for not being so. < 1464661456 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1464661463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dosh < 1464661465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The doshes are what the gostak distims. < 1464661486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: his neural nets are leaking into the wisdom < 1464661554 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I fear it was pretswetty hth → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gostak < 1464661931 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1464662440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: frumious! < 1464662784 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1464662791 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BANDERSNATCH CHICKEN < 1464662865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote obscure < 1464662876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :790) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september \ 1245) (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1464663076 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any solutions to a^n + b^p = c^q, where {a, b, c} = {2, 3, 5} and n, p, and q are integers greater than 1? < 1464663153 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are, of course, a few solutions where n, p, and q are nonnegative integers... < 1464663252 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 2 = 3, 1 + 3 = 4, 1 + 4 = 5, 2 + 3 = 5, 3 + 5 = 8, 9 + 16 = 25... wait, there's the answer. < 1464663273 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next question. How many solutions are there where n, p, and q are nonnegative integers? < 1464663317 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other two solutions that immediately come to mind are 2 + 25 = 27 and 3 + 125 = 128. < 1464663321 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and 1 + 1 = 2. < 1464663350 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, 5 + 27 = 32. < 1464663593 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought n was supposed to be greater than 1 < 1464663609 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be no more solutions with c^q less than or equal to 256. < 1464663612 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I changed my mind. < 1464663615 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1464663623 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 + 16 = 25 answers the original question positively. < 1464663628 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^2 + 2^4 = 5^2. < 1464663752 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :5^0 + 2^3 = 3^2 < 1464663769 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, I missed that one. < 1464663843 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the only one which is quite like that. 8 and 9 are the only consecutive integers which are perfect powers. < 1464663868 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect powers of any kind, not just perfect prime powers? < 1464663881 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :of any kind < 1464663891 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there only finitely many pairs of perfect powers which are 2 apart? < 1464663974 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1464663980 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, looks like yes: https://oeis.org/A076427 < 1464664005 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently that's known to be the case for all values of 2 up to at least 100. < 1464664038 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, this list is not very meaningful < 1464664046 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sspectra.com/Pillai.txt -- it comes from here < 1464664057 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Perfect powers examined up to 10^18" < 1464664088 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1464664093 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-fvnhqwoivsvniftf QUIT :Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite! < 1464664095 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that it's an open question whether 6 is the difference of two perfect powers. < 1464664136 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://oeis.org/A074981 < 1464664138 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1464664189 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan's_conjecture#Pillai.27s_conjecture - Pillai's conjecture states that for all n, there are only finitely many perfect powers that are n apart. It follows from the ABC conjecture. < 1464664241 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we only have to understand inter-universal Teichmüller theory, and we'll have it ;) < 1464664243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ...huh < 1464664283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has a fundamental theorem named after him, but does he have a conjecture? < 1464664285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was asking in another channel the other day: Is there some direct topological interpretation of big-O notation? < 1464664291 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for some reason I wonder: which 5-smooth numbers are non-trivially the sum of two other 5-smooth numbers, where "non-trivially" means that the three numbers must not all have a prime factor in common? < 1464664309 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what sort of topological interpretation do you mean? < 1464664311 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Topological? Not as far as I'm aware < 1464664325 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define it as exists K >= 0. lim_{n -> ∞}{f(n)/g(n)} = K or something like that. < 1464664356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]'s first conjecture: No one has yet bothered to prove hppavilion[1]'s first conjecture < 1464664368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Well, there's a nice concrete way of talking about the limit of a sequence, for instance, where you extend that sequence to the extended naturals and ask for f(∞). < 1464664385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's not an "interpretation". < 1464664388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bothered/managed/ < 1464664398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I can prove that conjecture. < 1464664403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No you can't < 1464664406 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :lim sup < 1464664431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mother sup < 1464664438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: By proving it, you disprove it, thus meaning you have not proven it, so it holds < 1464664444 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone had ever managed to prove the conjecture before you stated it, that would mean that the conjecture is false, and so they could not have proved it. Contradiction. < 1464664458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Why lim sup, when you're talking about n -> ∞? < 1464664471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: NON-INTUITIONISTIC HEATHEN < 1464664472 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the limit could diverge by oscillating. < 1464664472 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The limit may not exist, but the lim sup will < 1464664510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess not. < 1464664521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes me want a direct answer even more. < 1464664536 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: now, big-O notation is a partial order, right? So it has... I was about to say it has an order topology, but I don't know if partial orders get those. < 1464664597 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a topological space out of any preorder, but I don't think that's the sort of thing I'm looking for. < 1464664617 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we've just used division < 1464664635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i * boily has quit [Quit: NON-INTUITIONISTIC CHICKEN] < 1464664666 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what topological space construction are you thinking of? < 1464664667 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1464664675 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also not going to be invariant under homeomorphisms < 1464664677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464664721 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn i,i i,i what is i,i < 1464664725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'i,i': i,i i,i what is i,i < 1464664725 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. < 1464664751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I don't know, that's why I'm asking. < 1464664768 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean, when you say "you can make a topological space out of any preorder", what are you talking about? < 1464664790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just nice how you can concretely say "extend f : N -> X to a continuous f' : N* -> X, and then look at f'(∞)" < 1464664795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the what's it called. < 1464664799 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = x^3 + x is an automorphism of R, but composing functions with that will change their asymptotic behaviour < 1464664799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alexandrov space. < 1464664830 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandrov_topology#The_Alexandrov_topology_on_a_preordered_set < 1464664891 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, perhaps replacing the topology, okay < 1464664895 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1464664902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1464664925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last thing was answering tswett's question. < 1464665011 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at it as a partial order, how about the topology generated by {x : x < a} and {x : x > a}? < 1464665167 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wsinipwifgvotlrl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464665241 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe the question is something like: Is there a way to associate to functions f: N -> N some topological spaces X_f such that there is a continuous map X_f -> X_g iff f is O(g)? < 1464665275 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or perhaps swap them) < 1464665283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, something like that would probably be an answer. < 1464665298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some characterization of ʘ(f) < 1464665303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Θ(f) < 1464665319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was U+0298 instead of U+0398. < 1464665336 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they look similar to each other. < 1464666045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need any extra structure define lim sup for arbitrary topological spaces? < 1464666078 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. An automorphism of R has a topological space switches lim sup and lim inf. < 1464666079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464666082 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ʘ < 1464666084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0298 LATIN LETTER BILABIAL CLICK] < 1464666116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464666479 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1464666668 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all those bilabial clicks you need to make while pronouncing Latin. < 1464666731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Can you figure out what ꙮ notation would mean? < 1464666752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a SIGBOVIK paper in it, I'm sure. < 1464666788 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O < 1464666803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1464666817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiocular O notation. < 1464666819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ(f) < 1464666823 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lol < 1464666844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ꙮ < 1464666847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1136) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." < 1464666865 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how this letter from a fictional work gets into Unicode, but Klingon doesn't. < 1464666896 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1464666964 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1464666979 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should make a proposal to include the Klingon alphabet as "additional Cyrillic characters" < 1464667013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be able to sneak it in under CJK. < 1464667015 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyrillic Klingon of course < 1464667017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese Japanese Klingon < 1464667054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory 'ꙮ' < 1464667056 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherLetter < 1464667063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only weakness of that limerick. < 1464667553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ꙮ < 1464667559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ is the official Unicode character of #esoteric. < 1464667561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙮ < 1464667564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] < 1464667616 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What's the weakness? < 1464667627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1464667844 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let V and W be Banach spaces, and g: V -> W, then ꙮ(g) is the set of functions f: V -> W such that for any u in V, we have that the function r |--> f(r*u) is O(r |--> g(r*u)), i.e. in each direction f is asymptotically bounded by g. < 1464667885 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but the bound seen by each of the many eyes may differ) < 1464667924 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^^ hth < 1464668122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Eric14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47090 5* 03Eric 5* (+12) 10Created page with "This is Eric" < 1464668189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: sgtm < 1464668193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :get writing on that paper < 1464668371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jerk < 1464668376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464668387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Jerk is the integral of snap. < 1464668391 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'jerk': Jerk is the integral of snap. < 1464668435 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't figured out good answers for my questions about the limit operator L : (R -v R) -> (R -v R) < 1464668439 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where -v means a partial function.) < 1464668842 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? snap < 1464668845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464668869 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Snap is a simple web development framework for unix systems, written in the Haskell programming language. Snap has a high level of test coverage and is well-documented. < 1464668876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'snap': Snap is a simple web development framework for unix systems, written in the Haskell programming language. Snap has a high level of test coverage and is well-documented. < 1464668884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464668904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there I was about to define it as a Sierpiński Nap. < 1464668934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also i can't quite tell what Cale is doing here, can you twh < 1464669025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464669047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1464669050 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1464669052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? monoids < 1464669065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1464669067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with single objects. < 1464669068 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1464669070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monoid is the easy version of a category. < 1464669088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1464669089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1464669116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? just monoid < 1464669117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just monoid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464669169 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are lax functors * -> Cat < 1464669180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1464669182 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. < 1464669201 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464669290 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :So monoids are just lax functors * -> BSet, where BSet is the one-object delooping bicategory of the monoidal category of sets. < 1464669329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of a good definition for "just monoid". < 1464669649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: also i can't quite tell what Cale is doing here, can you twh <-- clearly it's meta-ironical hth < 1464669709 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :A just monoid is a monoid which is based on reasonable or adequate grounds. < 1464669742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? justice < 1464669744 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Justice is just behavior or treatment. < 1464669780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -le '(is|are) just' wisdom < 1464669793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Applicative < 1464669793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464669795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464669811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Applicatives are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1464669815 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'applicative': Applicatives are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1464669816 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monoid M is called left-adequate if every principal left ideal is projective as a left M-act, and the set E(M) of idempotents forms a semilattice < 1464669842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of thought we had that one already. < 1464669861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? applicative functor < 1464669863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :applicative functor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464669947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/applicative{,\ functor}; sed -i 's/s/ functors/' wisdom/applicative\ functor < 1464669951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464669981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? applicative functor < 1464669983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative functors are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1464670015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? functor < 1464670016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functors are just morphisms in the category of small categories < 1464670031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/functor < 1464670036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464670066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1464670067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo usage: "mk[x]" file//contents >&2; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "$key")" && echo "$key" < 1464670117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1464670122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas is "The America of America" < 1464670233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1464670234 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -name "*$(echo "$1" | lowercase)*" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1464670286 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/sedk//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo usage: sedk file//operation; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key" } < 1464670290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedk < 1464670367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedk bin/sedk//s;u;'u;;s"n"n'" < 1464670369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/sedk: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1464670427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/..$/; }/' bin/sedk < 1464670432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464670437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedk bin/sedk//s;u;'u;;s"n"n'" < 1464670440 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedk//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sedk file//operation'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464670465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast soperationscript < 1464670473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedk//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sedk file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464670486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hth < 1464670554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should've rnoooooodled that. < 1464670683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/sedk bin/sled; sedk 'bin/sled//s-sedk-sled-' < 1464670687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: sedk: command not found < 1464670696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1464670706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/sled//s-sedk-sled- < 1464670708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sled//[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || exit 1; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1464671420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category Theory-related wisdom tends to start with "xs are just" < 1464671817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits LaTeX < 1464671834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464671847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat? < 1464671851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat culprits < 1464671852 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: culprits: No such file or directory < 1464671859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...WAT < 1464671864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, this was me, wasn't it < 1464671876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`innocent LaTeX < 1464671877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: innocent: not found < 1464671881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn < 1464672152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly a case of advanced amnesia. < 1464672195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so derivatives [4..6] are called snap, crackle, and pop < 1464672200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fizzie a derivative < 1464674714 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emacs < 1464674716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1464674716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vi < 1464674719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi is in a relationship with emacs. < 1464674723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nano < 1464674726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nano is vi's sister. < 1464674729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464674748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's a problem here. < 1464675079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you incest there is. < 1464675083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shopping -> < 1464675190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, the wisdom PDF has a whole chapter on Tanebventions < 1464675533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1464675537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1464675573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/lemma/lemma, histograms,/ < 1464675577 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms,, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1464675584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1464675590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/,,/,/ < 1464675593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1464675756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn soviet russia/In soviet russia, this wisdom entry /would/ read you if it weren't for the fact that IRC hadn't been invented at the time < 1464675760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «soviet russia» < 1464675808 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1464675818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/soviet russia//¯\(°​_o)/¯ soviet russia? < 1464675839 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your joke is only a reference to another joke and it isn't even properly punctuated < 1464675846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/soviet russia < 1464675861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] int-e b_jonas oerjan < 1464675884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yeah < 1464675894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn soviet russia/In soviet russia, this wisdom entry /would/ read you if it weren't for the fact that IRC hadn't been invented at the time. < 1464675899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «soviet russia» < 1464675911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/soviet\ russia | grep summary: | grep -v hpp < 1464675918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: slashlearn soviet russia/In soviet russia, this wisdom entry reads you. \ summary: le/rn soviet russia/\xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0\xe2\x80\x8b_o)/\xc2\xaf soviet russia? < 1464675959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 8238 < 1464675977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1464676271 0 :shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@unaffiliated/shovel-boss/x-4881665 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464677903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soviet russia < 1464677908 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ soviet russia? < 1464677972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, irc was invented while soviet russia still existed hth < 1464677988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was afraid someone would say that < 1464678022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the new soviet russia joke is better < 1464678027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? russian reversal < 1464678030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian reversal? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464678037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lithuanian inversion < 1464678040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lithuanian inversion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464678108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also the old joke < 1464678108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? french expansion < 1464678110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :french expansion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464678116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1464678129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? greek oliveoilization < 1464678130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :greek oliveoilization? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464678159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( which countries have imploded? ) < 1464678254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Britain? < 1464678269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07++brainfuck++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47091&oldid=47085 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+44) 10 < 1464678279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever name, probably stupid < 1464678290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07++brainfuck++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47092&oldid=47091 5* 03Maximngy 5* (-40) 10 < 1464678314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07++brainfuck++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47093&oldid=47092 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+5) 10 < 1464678379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:++brainfuck++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47094 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+61) 10Informed. < 1464678408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:++brainfuck++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47095&oldid=47094 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+11) 10Updated to match new title < 1464678430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47096&oldid=47073 5* 03Maximngy 5* (+66) 10 < 1464678484 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f451:eb27:7e43:60a6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464678504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... I wonder if there are any programs that take improper english written by a non-native speaker and attempt to determine their native language < 1464678559 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: need more samples? < 1464678576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ? < 1464678591 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as I'm not a native speaker) < 1464678633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Well it wouldn't work for fluent nonnative speakers, but it'd be designed for people who know just enough english to scrape by < 1464678651 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, I never thought I'm fluent :S < 1464678669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Well the fact that you aren't a native speaker is news to me IIRC, so... < 1464678698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ironically, "I'm" should be "I was" there, I guess) < 1464678725 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that kind of mistakes. I'm particularly bad at tense for example < 1464678788 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and articles, but everyone learning English seems to fail on articles anyway < 1464678839 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? I fail in articles? < 1464678942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You should not end a sentence with a preposition. Wait, dammit." < 1464678961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Eintaire < 1464678986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? einstein < 1464678993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :einstein? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464679042 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. World War V will be fought with crossbows, World War VI will be lasers, and World War VII will be blowguns. I don't know about World Wars VIII through XI. World War XII will use the same weapons as III, but will be fought entirely within underground tunnels. World War XIV will—Hey, come < 1464679044 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :back! I have a whole list!" -- Albert Einstein < 1464679044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn einstein is a germaneau for "a stone" < 1464679053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'einstein': einstein is a germaneau for "a stone" < 1464679185 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, everyone whose native language is not indo-european. that should be more clear. < 1464679227 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(other languages often have articles, guaranteed, but indo-european articles can be quite complex compared to others) < 1464679737 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: no no, look, Hungarian has articles that are used very similar to those in English or French < 1464679750 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's sad < 1464679765 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indo-European is not relevant here in practice, because if your native language is Russian you are going to have trouble with articles in Englih < 1464679782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indo-European didn't use to have articles originally < 1464679795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are later inventions, and stolen multiple times < 1464679810 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not inherited on the main branches of the family tree < 1464679835 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that's true, still I feel most modern indo-european languages have a system of articles anyway < 1464679859 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: um, maybe? I dunno < 1464679892 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be half and half, but some of the ones that have articles (like Swedish) have a different system from English or French < 1464679909 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464679910 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnurd < 1464679939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464679942 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: for one record, affixes give another headache for foreign learners, though English does not have them (in general) < 1464679958 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: sure < 1464679964 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of reason that Korean is particularly hard for many other speakers < 1464679989 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and Japanese, which is worse thanks to the absence of spacing) < 1464680024 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and "thanks" used as a sarcasm just to be sure) < 1464680027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: especially in the languages that have crazy unlearnable random forms of how a particular affix looks like when appended to a particular word, like Hungarian, where they're so random that half of the time they're used as a shiboleth to identify non-native speakers reliably, and the other half of the time even native speakers don't agree on the correct form < 1464680042 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: you seem to be very good at hitting issues that don't apply to b_jonas :P < 1464680049 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lol < 1464680063 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different extremes, maybe? < 1464680102 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what? they sure apply. just because Hungarian has a crazy verb conjugation (and also noun declination) system doesn't make conjugation in other languages much easier to learn, because they don't work the same < 1464680127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well you have articles, and you have affixes galore. < 1464680131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: articles in English _are_ easy to learn for me, because they work practically the same as in Hungarian, with some rare differences < 1464680152 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Hungarian affixes seem to be... a lot. Korean also has lots of them but in a slightly different way. < 1464680152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously hungarian calqued articles from its indoeuropean neighbors. < 1464680171 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: but Japanese at least has some of the nouns and verbs written in Kanji and all the suffixes written in hiragana, doesn't that sort of count as spaces? < 1464680188 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah, created out of necessity (unfortunately). < 1464680193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course, even the indoeuropean neighbors stole the articles from each other way after they split < 1464680240 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: but I Japanese verb conjugation does have a reputation to be hard to learn, yse < 1464680300 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if I read the WP correctly, Hungarian affixes do not compose, it just have tons of them for each class, right? (plus some terrible mutation rules) < 1464680358 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Korean affixes compose a lot, and ruins automated segmentation < 1464680364 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it does have composing affixes (called képző), but also ordinary verb affixes and noun affixes that form the conjugation and declination, and those don't compose, so you have basically at most two attached to a verb or noun < 1464680399 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“tons of them for each class” - not compared to Japanese I think, but I'm not really sure < 1464680434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think i read once that greek got the definite article from phoenician some time between homeric and classical greek and from there it spread to others. < 1464680437 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese has a similar characteristic < 1464680467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure how accurate that is. < 1464680572 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, a Hungarian noun takes a “jel” suffix which indicates singular vs plural and also possessive (but the possessive is null most of the time in the text), followed by a “rag” suffix which is ordinary noun declination indicating the role of the noun group in the sentence (sort of like in Latin, and somewhat less like Japanese); < 1464680685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas an adjective takes possibly a “jel” suffix indicating comparative, followed by possibly an ordinary noun “jel” and noun “rag” (most often both omitted because they can be used only if the adjective is used as a noun group alone or a qualifier after a noun, but most of the time adjectives are used as epitheths before a noun in which case it's forbidden); < 1464680863 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Hungarian verbs take a “jel” indicating mood and tense (there's four possibilities, plus some obsolate ones, the most common one is empty for the indicative present, two other forms are notated by an aux verb instead of a suffix), followed by a “rag” that agrees with the count and person of the subject and the determinacy of the object (13 possibilities). < 1464680911 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a Hungarian verb has 4*13 possibly forms (one less actually because there's two that always look the same, but that doesn't help understanding the system). < 1464681034 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The basic system is simple, but the part that's impossible to learn is that when you actually attach a suffix to a word the letters and sounds you get are modified in ways impossible to predict. < 1464681138 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: does Korean have a verb conjugation system that's reputed to be hard to learn, like Japanese? I know Korean is supposed to have a grammar similar to Japanese, but I'm not sure if that applies to that part too. < 1464681185 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Korean have no conjugation system, probably everything is done with affixes. < 1464681200 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: um, what's the difference? < 1464681213 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fewer changes in form? < 1464681215 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1464681221 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in principle you can segment all of them < 1464681230 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is you initially don't know where to cut < 1464681462 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some example: "했다" ("[subject] did [...]") <- short for "하였다" = 하- (verb, lit. to do) / -였- (past tense) / -다 (plain verb ending) < 1464681504 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may notice that there *is* a contraction. it is not proper conjugation though because you can literally replace every occurrence of 했다 with 하였다, so it is rather a pronunciation contraction < 1464681544 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or abbreviation if you prefer that. kind of contractions like "im" in German (<- in dem) < 1464681625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wondered why hungarian verbs had a prime number of "rag"s, then remembered -lak/lek < 1464681785 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now introducing tons of variations for this verb: 할 (future tense, needs aux verb), 할까요 (future tense plus inquiry), 합시다 (present tense plus proposition), 할까봐 (future tense, nominal "-까" plus suggestive "-봐"), and so on < 1464681832 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several, not always compatible, variations for each kind of affixes, resulting in literally thousands of them < 1464681910 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: right. that counts more or less like conjugation for me, unless there are also suffixes with a varying form that can be separated from the word it applies to by other words (not just other affixes on the same word) < 1464682037 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: IIRC conjugation is related to the grammatical tags and thus imperative (you cannot use non-conjugated forms interchangably). I think Korean does not do that. < 1464682076 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some close-to-conjugation rules that are imperative, though < 1464682091 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and some of them irregular, as common in natural languages) < 1464682150 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Good Night < 1464682262 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: hmm, so you say it's not conjugation unless the agreement or suffixes are mostly mandatory on all verbs where they make sense, whereas in Koeran they are often optional and used only when they're necessary? < 1464682319 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they are common contractions, but otherwise yes, I think so < 1464682335 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1464682357 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to say that it is easier, actually that's more difficult (as you have to learn both and when it is appropriate) < 1464682400 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I don't understand really is how languages like Chinese can work, for they have so few suffixes or grammatical particles that I don't understand how any listener can split groups of words in a sentence and tell their role in the sentence. < 1464682450 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I just have a mistaken impression about Chinese and it has more grammatical particles than it seems, I dunno. < 1464682460 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my understanding Chinese is quite similar to English (in terms of grammatical characteristics), so the word order is very important and some supporting words should be used to clarify their meanings < 1464682496 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: English is bad too, yes, but at least it has articles on some of the nouns, which helps. < 1464682560 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think Chinese also has some particles, 的 being a prime example < 1464682566 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas Chinese has neither articles (like English) nor lots of case markers after most nouns (like latin or Japanese) < 1464682600 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: lots of particles sure, but are they commonly used? and I think I don't count particles that occur only at the end of the sentence. < 1464682613 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the actual count < 1464682662 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it is more concerning that Chinese has a relatively simple phonology (well, tones, right, but tones are often missed during conversation) < 1464682750 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: why is that important? lots of languages have a simple phonology, Japanese included. < 1464682789 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: tons of synonyms and near-synonyms as a result. (Japanese has tons of them as well) < 1464682806 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, that does happen. < 1464682814 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Japanese seems to be fine so that may not be an actual problem < 1464682841 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it is a problem in spoken Japanese, which is why they add lots of extra words to disambiguate. < 1464683268 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a problem in spoken japanese? < 1464683282 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: homophony < 1464683286 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1464683293 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing word-level ambiguities < 1464683299 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have lots of those < 1464683319 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some of those stress different syllables < 1464683467 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: right, pitch accent. half of the sources say it doesn't even really exist in Japanese, or only in certain dialects. I have no idea what the truth about it is. < 1464683471 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost ridiculous how many homophones they have < 1464683489 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: as far as I know it's certain dialects. < 1464683511 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I wrote synonyms when I should've write homonym < 1464683512 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1464683514 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know if there's some "official dialect" that has different pitch accents for homophones < 1464683536 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most famous one is hashi < 1464683553 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bridge or chopsticks < 1464683556 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or probably even more :) < 1464683588 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparentely also tip/point/(end of street) < 1464683614 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the first (harvest, catch) of the season or year < 1464683624 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: meh, a few isolated words with many meanings (like “scale”) doesn't really prove anything < 1464683641 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1464683666 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a word with many meanings is still one word < 1464683674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, bit of a bitcoin boom < 1464683704 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but jisho lists at least 4-5 words with "hashi" as its readnig. < 1464683769 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no linguist. I don't even know when something is really a different word or the same < 1464683787 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's for example "Schloss" in german, which is either a "castle" or a "lock" < 1464683804 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if those are homonyms or just a word with two meanings < 1464683918 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. polysem, homonym, holograph < 1464684608 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:7da4:3e9d:9918:bddd QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464685125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Polysleep < 1464685334 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:edba:bc04:4cf8:b5eb JOIN :#esoteric < 1464686864 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1464686962 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464687013 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1464687169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464687227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Machine. Unexpectedly, I’d invented a time < 1464687555 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5d5f:2d0b:9c66:214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464687571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference < 1464687588 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a few cases, different dictionaries decide differentl < 1464687704 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. wp says it's pretty much up to the origin of the word < 1464687723 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether it's a ploysem or homonym < 1464687834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1464687842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No website should have a loading screen if it isn't streaming content < 1464687845 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5d5f:2d0b:9c66:214 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464688094 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1464688095 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1464688098 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got it all wrong < 1464688100 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally wrong < 1464688133 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to industry best practices every website should have a 30s loading screen with a shitload of ads (that also install malware on your machine to display even more ads) < 1464688147 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as an anti-ad-blocker that redirects you to malicious porn sites if an adblocker is detected < 1464688191 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of the ads need to look like regular MS Windows windows (even better if you detect the OS so you don't display Windows Vista window borders when using Windows XP) < 1464688214 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most importantly it needs to start shaking once the user wants to close it, if the user closes it the user needs to be asked if he's sure < 1464688216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: maybe I'm just visiting the wrong websites for this, but the "anti-adblocker" mostly sounds like a myth to me that everyone says other websites are doing, and is totally possible to do, but almost no website actually uses. < 1464688237 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pornhub does. < 1464688241 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: some websites have overlays that javascript removes, but it's specifically for disabled javascript, not ad blocking I think < 1464688244 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they just display a message :) < 1464688279 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some websites put an overlay over the content if ads didn't load properly < 1464688291 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you can remove with firebug or alike (delete node) < 1464688292 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really overlays, where the page loads anyway behind it so you can just remove it, not the javascript redirect kind where you can't even read the page without interpreting the javascript) < 1464688308 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tougher websites do a redirect < 1464688311 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: maybe I just confuse them with that < 1464688314 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you temporarily have to disable redirects. < 1464688338 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :others just serve ads from their own domain < 1464688345 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just a proxy of the actual ad network :) < 1464688374 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really an anti-ad-blocker though, just anti-ad-blocking strategy < 1464688415 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proxying ads through your own domain is probably currently the best thing you can do to still serve ads. < 1464688583 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also as an oem manufacturer you have to install rootkits that trust your own certificates so you can man in the middle all https connections and insert your own ads < 1464688611 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why companies can get off the hook so easily when they do these things. < 1464688658 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were to walk into some company and install a rootkit there I'd go to prison < 1464688661 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying . < 1464689389 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess my world view is just too distorted :D < 1464689413 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 2016 I'd have thought some OS manufacturer had the guts to address some root problems when it comes to malware and stuff like that < 1464689420 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing much happened < 1464689454 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe smartphones < 1464689606 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost like Microsoft has some business with either malware or anti-malware manufacturers :D < 1464689710 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1464689839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464691515 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1464691515 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 310920Z AUTO 35010KT 5000 -RA OVC011/// //////CB 11/10 Q1015 RERA TEMPO 4000 RA BKN009 < 1464691549 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :-RA RERA TEMPO RA. < 1464692812 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464693344 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ykehaxqhjcxlygmu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1464694268 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who speaks japanese here? < 1464694318 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted some info about the -go suffix that i can't find anywhere < 1464694335 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :often translated as boy < 1464694362 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:edba:bc04:4cf8:b5eb PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh... example? < 1464694422 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bleach, yoruichi calls byakuya "byakuya-go" < 1464694470 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:edba:bc04:4cf8:b5eb PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it's not -bo? < 1464694502 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure it's very similar < 1464694519 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see, bo is on wikipedia < 1464694534 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1464694541 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:1d5:edba:bc04:4cf8:b5eb PRIVMSG #esoteric :-bou actually, I guess < 1464694636 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it really sounds similar <.< < 1464695421 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a5fd:c6c9:735c:c72b JOIN :#esoteric < 1464695685 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a5fd:c6c9:735c:c72b QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464696061 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1464696120 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1464696242 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1464698316 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cone < 1464698321 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cube < 1464698323 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ball < 1464698328 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cylinder < 1464698374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cone? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464698374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1464698375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ball? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464698376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cylinder? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464698436 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong - the companion cube, though vaguely cube-shaped, has various ridges, circles, and other alterations to the basic shape of a cube, that make it not precisely a cube. < 1464698469 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, given that it is still classified as a cube, the "but only one shape" phrase should be changed to "but always match the same general outline of a shape". < 1464699316 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: so basically you're saying that the wisdom entry meets the usual #esoteric standard of being a satisfying mix of truth and misinformation. < 1464699338 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! < 1464699382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? inferno < 1464699384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inferno? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464699403 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? limbo < 1464699405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :limbo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464699447 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; grep Dante * < 1464699461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: le: Is a directory \ grep: ¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: ¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ plan9:Plan9 is the precursor to Dante's Inferno, home of the Limbo programming language. \ Binary file reflection matches \ virgil:Virgil is a prayer at dawn, as well as an ancient Italian poet who led Dante to hell so they can ask the blind transgende < 1464699499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgets his own wisdom entries... < 1464699506 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/plan9 < 1464699519 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e int-e < 1464699786 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocytus < 1464699788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocytus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464699821 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ir2 < 1464699823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ir2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464702473 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fools < 1464702481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fools? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464703201 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464703554 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464703790 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haruspex < 1464703797 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haruspex? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464703812 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464705413 0 :ski__!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1464705436 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464706079 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464706117 0 :ski__!?@? NICK :ski < 1464706126 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1464706966 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I messed with BytePusher, it was to try AOTing it, but that turned out to be impractical. But... what about a JIT? < 1464707540 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1464708405 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464708896 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1464708922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 5 * 19 % 30 * 31 < 1464708936 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1464708950 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 5 * 19 % 30 * 31 < 1464708951 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 0.102151 < 1464708965 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, like that < 1464709247 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.144 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1464710418 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1464710576 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464711311 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464711478 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-113-50.erkacmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464715540 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be possible to JIT BytePusher with... well, it seems a maximum of 512 segments per frame during some parts, but during runtime averaging on somewhere like 270. Need to get more stats for average segment length... < 1464715610 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike my previous attempt at messing with BytePusher execution, this one actually runs programs, though right now it only compiles it to something else it ends up interpreting. < 1464715636 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and it's slower than a normal BytePusher interpreter. < 1464715648 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even when it's not recompiling segments.) < 1464715818 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be able to more or less zero the recompiled segment count by caching "alternate versions" of segments. < 1464715843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but that probably won't make it faster than a normal BytePusher interpreter. < 1464716028 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so even more mressing around shows that the average segment it can JIT on a complex program is 9 instructions long. < 1464716032 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*messing < 1464716058 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am beginning to doubt the utility of this... < 1464716227 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Ok, so on the Audio Test it manages an average segment length of 7 instructions, and never compiles a segment more than once. I'm a bit more optimistic now. < 1464716278 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and it only compiled 2 segments. < 1464716367 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1038 < 1464716372 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this olisted yet? < 1464716383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1038: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1464716892 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464716922 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1464717288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in this channel, but it might've happened in another channel. < 1464717306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or on the other side of a netsplit, I guess, but then HackEgo wasn't there to help. < 1464717321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poor olister, forced to manually type everyone's nick. < 1464720503 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464720582 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olist < 1464720594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist is update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html < 1464720879 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464721239 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464722136 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1464722278 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1464722302 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1464722343 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1464722455 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464723043 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? get off my lawn < 1464723046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get off my lawn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464723050 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? get off < 1464723055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get off? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464723355 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464723440 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464723454 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464723583 0 :Elronnd\StD!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1464723783 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1464724481 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is wrong with this question? < 1464724513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's ambiguous. < 1464724527 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1464724723 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it's self-referential < 1464724757 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, that is what it is. < 1464724935 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8302:dcf0:25f5:4ac:8b44:dc2c JOIN :#esoteric < 1464725044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you're self-referential hth < 1464725096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1464725099 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and voluminous but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1464725121 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes, it's something I'm working on < 1464725210 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1464725213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, gazpacho, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1464725239 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see which of those are fake... < 1464725258 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Probably that last sentence, but nothing else < 1464725284 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, the last sentence is the most true of all < 1464725295 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like I've ever seen anyone called Stephen Wolfram, so he's probably an invention of Taneb < 1464725296 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm completely asexual and a bit uncomfortable with being associated with sex < 1464725335 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh. In which case, it may not have been the greatest idea putting it in a sentence which may or may not contain lies... < 1464725355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever try submarine jousting? Sounds fun but dangerous... < 1464725373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Taneb is probably at least 100 years old < 1464725377 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("the BBC") < 1464725415 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+ some extra time in which Taneb became old enough to potentially conceive of a broadcasting corporation for Britain) < 1464725416 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, Phantom_Hoover is quite good at submarine jousting from what I've heard < 1464725421 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1464725429 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually real < 1464725434 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464725436 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paradox! < 1464725436 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes it < 1464725437 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1464725472 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm not in the submarine team, i just knew some of the people on it < 1464725492 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everybody knows Taneb invented the torus, they share a first letter < 1464725506 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj, a torus, topologically, is just a torus < 1464725542 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464725545 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tetris < 1464725547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetris? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464725599 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I am tautology resistant to 104 megaiterations. < 1464725653 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Should someone provide a tautology with 104.000001 megaiterations, I will fall asleep for 10 hours.) < 1464725676 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Elronnd\StD < 1464725682 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This roughly matches the amount of time it would take for me to actually listen to the tautology.) < 1464725905 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an iteration of a tautology? < 1464726299 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, the iteration of a tautology, of course < 1464726325 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see what you're doing < 1464726400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? histogram < 1464726403 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :histogram? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464726441 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shrugging smiley < 1464726444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrugging smiley? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464726449 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1464726465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464726465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464726466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464726466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464726467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464726507 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you gamemanj < 1464726516 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :macabre// < 1464726526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m–rdalsjökull//M–rdalsjökull is a draconic volcano harbouring the secret KATL base. < 1464726526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right//Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1464726526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :antediluvian//We could tell you what antediluvian means, but that would just open a flood of questions. < 1464726526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera//izabera is a bradyherpetologist. She is probably implemented in bash. < 1464726543 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1464726561 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hl for no reason -_- < 1464726651 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems unlikely that a person could be implemented in bash (and the CTCP VERSION doesn't say "bash" either), so the wisdom entry is probably telling a lie < 1464726673 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? macabre < 1464726675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Macabres have been the hereditary rulers of Lochaber for 3 centuries. < 1464726703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened there? < 1464726706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom macabre < 1464726708 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :macabre//The Macabres have been the hereditary rulers of Lochaber for 3 centuries. < 1464726718 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happen < 1464726940 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? accountant < 1464726941 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accountant? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464727005 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? auditor < 1464727005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits macabre < 1464727007 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :auditor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464727014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464727017 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/macabre < 1464727022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Phantom_Hoover < 1464727029 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ the usual suspects < 1464727040 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or at least one of them, at any rate! < 1464727139 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, you study slow snakes?? < 1464727168 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was something about python being slow < 1464727209 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you work on pypy are you a bradyherpetologist? < 1464727295 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for-- that should've been 'tachyherpetologist' < 1464727358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn usual suspects/There are 3.99 usual suspects, but they're usually rounded up. < 1464727365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «usual suspects» < 1464727393 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Who's the fourth? < 1464727422 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, .99th of the fourth? < 1464727431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s usual\ suspect wisdom/the\ usual\ suspect < 1464727437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1464727494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: clearly your suspectometer is broken hth < 1464727510 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1464727516 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's not just broken < 1464727519 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's spinning wildly < 1464727520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and screaming < 1464727571 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1464727907 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kegtmhoslygmvjpb JOIN :#esoteric < 1464728116 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A horse is a horse, of course, of course. < 1464728121 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Speaking of tautologies.) < 1464728171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Of course a horse is a horse. < 1464728180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure that that's true of course. < 1464728184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might need to be proved. < 1464728235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "of course" is a linear logic operator and a comonad. < 1464728247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "of course A" implies "of course of course A". < 1464728258 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a horse is true of a horse but not of a course < 1464728270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olsner < 1464728272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner seems to exist at least. He builds all his esolangs in diesel engines. < 1464728368 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1464728370 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1464728411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 funpunnery < 1464728413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaarel < 1464728447 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A horse by any other name would smell as sweet. < 1464728475 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I bothered to search Nepeta Leijon. I am now unsure what, exactly, to say. < 1464728493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, this placeholder message has been left. < 1464728499 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is a file for accounting but it would seem from above they do not have the file of accountant yet? < 1464728516 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: accounting what? < 1464728517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464728525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xathrid Gorgon \ 5B \ Creature -- Gorgon \ 3/6 \ Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.) \ {2}{B}, {T}: Put a petrification counter on target creature. It gains defender and becomes a colorless artifact in addition to its other types. Its activated abilities can't be activated. (A creature with defender c < 1464728534 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the wisdom file < 1464728541 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you say about nepeta leijon? < 1464728541 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: please go to :image:herald.jpgthe image description page and edit it to include a wikipedia:fair use rationale guidelineexplanation or rationale as to why its use in ' ' fnord' ( unethical offspring) of the page would hurt the island image. < 1464728556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should reprogram random-card to strip the reminder text so that the other text will fit. < 1464728592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But what if you want to read the reminder text? < 1464728594 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I was thinking of auditors (from Discworld), not accountants. < 1464728610 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK then write the one about auditor from Discworld < 1464728635 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure. The remainder text is useful when you take a random card from twenty years of set of crazy keywords. < 1464728643 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then you can use a command-line switch to enable it possibly < 1464728655 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, maybe if it doesn't fit in the output then it could make sense to strip the reminder text < 1464728664 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, strip only if it wouldn't fit otherwise < 1464728676 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name benalish hero < 1464728679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Benalish Hero \ W \ Creature -- Human Soldier \ 1/1 \ Banding (Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band. Bands are blocked as a group. If any creatures with banding you control are blocking or being blocked by a creature, you divide that creature's combat damage, not its controller, among any of the creatures it's bei < 1464728680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But now the text won't fit on one message. I think the reminder text is waste space (and isn't always perfectly accurate), because you can look up the rules instead. < 1464728701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not know what a keyword means then you should look up in the rules. < 1464728709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe... < 1464728817 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: part of the problem is that wizards sometimes omits reminder text from where it would be really useful and would not be distracting, like on Sea's Claim, or like on creatures with protection from a color and not many other abilities (is there even ANY card where protection was printed with a reminder text?). < 1464728863 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sea's Claim is particularly stupid, as it has a reminder text for "Enchant land" which is probably the ability more people would know without reminder text, but no reminder text for "Enchanted land is an Island." which is way more likely to be confusing for players < 1464728876 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think reminder text should always be omitted unless the text is sufficiently unclear due to English is a stupid language perhaps < 1464728907 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no no, if the text is unclear because English is a stupid language, then the ability must be rephrased. don't just fix that with a reminder text. < 1464728957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixing the ability might be difficult of course, and requires lots of planning ahead with the rules. < 1464728966 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that planning ahead is what the rules manager is for. < 1464728968 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case rephrasing is impossible maybe, or if the rephrasing makes it not compatible with the rules of the game < 1464729001 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, and if they really can't rephrase, even with fixing the rules, then Wizardse simply doesn't print such a card < 1464729003 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nearly everything is sufficiently clear even without the reminder text though. < 1464729016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of potential cards that you can't print for such reason. < 1464729039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: only if you remember all the two hundred obscure old keyworded abilities and action words. < 1464729045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1464729092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should learn the rules for the keywords used in the set/cube/deck that you are playing, and reference it if you are unsure. < 1464729139 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, for decks I make I totally should learn the rules well, but I can't know in advance what decks other people make, and in the case of `random-card you can get almost any card < 1464729148 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own custom cards do not use reminder text for keywords (in some cases it won't even fit anyways). < 1464729189 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but the space for the IRC is even less than the space of the cards themself. You can ask for the card with the -r switch to read reminder text perhaps, and/or to use another command to look up a rule. < 1464729289 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, we could do that < 1464729318 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: feel free to modify `random-card and `card-by-name to omit the reminder text < 1464729334 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lazy, I won't implement it now < 1464729344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you implement it, it's fine < 1464729373 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't implement it now either, but possibly later I would do so. < 1464729434 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously, I hate Spreading Seas and Sea's Claim for not having the reminder text saying that the enchanted land loses abilities printed on it. And they're good cards and not easily replacable, so I can't just ignore those cards. < 1464729445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my own custom cards have banding and bands with other (I like those keyword abilities), as well as new keywords, some of which are too complicated to fit in the reminder text, so mine would omit the reminder text. < 1464729463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't care about that. Write on the cards or make proxies if you do care. < 1464729474 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sure, I can use such cards instead that don't use that crazy rule, and preserve the land types and abilities, but that's not the same.) < 1464729528 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's not so easy to write on the cards, you'd have to rewrite the whole text box probably < 1464729534 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is clear enough from the rules that it won't keep their abilities or other subtypes, so it is not need the extra text < 1464729563 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and sure, banding is a lost cause, it has such complicated rules that the reminder would barely fit a card < 1464729587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banding is good though. Reminder text is bad though. < 1464729590 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the oracle gatherer text is long, and it omits crucial details. < 1464729597 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do like banding, < 1464729622 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just one you don't write on the cards. Just like the planeswalker rules. They weren't written on any of the planeswalkers, not even when they were introduced in Lorwyn. < 1464729629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the two-faced card rules. < 1464729632 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1464729637 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :double-faced card rues < 1464729643 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They shouldn't need to be; they are in the rule book < 1464729735 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banding is a good idea itself, it's just that most of the banding cards they printed are just silly. < 1464729776 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have made some of my own cards with banding which have other things as well, so new combinations are possible. < 1464729802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Benalish Hero, the larger banding creatures (multiple elephants, a griffin, and other soldiers), and the Helm are fine; but the bands with others creatures, the tons of cards (in Legends I think) that REMOVE banding from other cards, and that land that gives legends "bands with other legends" are just silly < 1464729819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of the same situation as with Great Wall < 1464729860 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing some of my cards have is stuff like "target creature banded with" or "other creatures banded with". < 1464729926 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait < 1464729949 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have added a rule to define what that means.) < 1464730094 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1464730113 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1464730266 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464730346 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.123 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464730541 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-188-109-006-158.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1464730715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I didn't know there were 11 cards printed with Leech creature type. < 1464730752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you learn. < 1464730909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: By "now" do you mean "before now"? < 1464730960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is irrelevant. < 1464731076 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was inevitable. < 1464731200 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, that is what I meant, sorry. < 1464731215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meant by what? < 1464731271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote "irrelevant" instead by mistake < 1464731464 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not... zzo38 i was quoting a line from dwarf fortress as a joke, asre you sure it's what you meant to say? < 1464731553 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. Actually I am unsure that either "irrelevant" or "inevitable" is correct, but it seem closer to what I intended < 1464731692 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :...are you a dwarf fortress character? < 1464731746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that I am not a dwarf fortress < 1464731833 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1464731938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464731945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annihilating Fire \ 1RR \ Instant \ Annihilating Fire deals 3 damage to target creature or player. If a creature dealt damage this way would die this turn, exile it instead. \ RTR-C < 1464732006 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1464732088 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1464732104 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1464732107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hedron-Field Purists \ 2W \ Creature -- Human Cleric \ 0/3 \ Level up {2}{W} ({2}{W}: Put a level counter on this. Level up only as a sorcery.) \ {LEVEL 1-4} 1/4 If a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control, prevent 1 of that damage. \ {LEVEL 5+} 2/5 If a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control, prevent 2 of that < 1464732146 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just barely doesn't fit the irc line. < 1464732185 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is just barely, then it look like removing the reminder text would help. (But in some cases, card texts might not fit even if reminder text is stripped.) < 1464732204 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yep, snipping the reminder text would definitely help here < 1464732229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serra's Farmstead {WW} Enchantment - Aura ;; Enchant land ;; Enchanted land has "{2}, {T}: Add {W} to your mana pool. You gain 2 life." ;; When ~ comes into play, you gain 1 life. ;; Echo {W} < 1464732272 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card fight < 1464732274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Epic Confrontation \ 1G \ Sorcery \ Target creature you control gets +1/+2 until end of turn. It fights target creature you don't control. (Each deals damage equal to its power to the other.) \ DTK-C < 1464732308 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card imprint < 1464732310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mirror Golem \ 6 \ Artifact Creature -- Golem \ 3/4 \ Imprint -- When Mirror Golem enters the battlefield, you may exile target card from a graveyard. \ Mirror Golem has protection from each of the exiled card's card types. (Artifact, creature, enchantment, instant, land, planeswalker, sorcery, and tribal are card types.) \ MRD-U < 1464732330 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card plane\b < 1464732333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grove of the Dreampods \ Plane -- Fabacin \ When you planeswalk to Grove of the Dreampods or at the beginning of your upkeep, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a creature card. Put that card onto the battlefield and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. \ Whenever you roll CHAOS, return target creature c < 1464732398 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Serra's Farmstead? Do you like the original Farmstead? < 1464732411 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Farmstead < 1464732412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Farmstead \ WWW \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant land \ Enchanted land has "At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay {W}{W}. If you do, you gain 1 life." \ A-R, B-R, U-R, RV-R < 1464732416 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that card < 1464732437 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, an old white rare from revised. no wonder I didn't know it < 1464732479 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, the original Farmstead seems very weak < 1464732484 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that's why I haven't heared of it < 1464732492 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think it is weak < 1464732510 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serra's Farmstead is stronger of course, but it sort of seems like too complicated < 1464732782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. What would be the power level of a mono-colored bounce land? Eg. Large Atoll \ Land \ ~ etb tapped. \ When ~ etb, return a land you control to its owner's hand. \ {T}: Add {U}{U} to your mana pool. < 1464732792 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1464732818 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1464732875 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would play lands like that in some decks if they existed, but that doesn't really mean much. < 1464732898 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8302:dcf0:25f5:4ac:8b44:dc2c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1464734138 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you recommend a website like isup.me but that can act on https servers? < 1464734666 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:3518:59a5:8421:3af1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1464734769 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1464734841 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1464734849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :angband//Angband is Morgoth's second dungeon. When the valar finally defeated Morgoth, they were too lazy to go to for 100% completion, so some evil spirits in Angband survived for a sequel. < 1464735268 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rng < 1464735271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rng? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1464735350 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1464735493 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All Hail the Fair and Just RNG! < 1464735949 0 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-117-85-202.cust.vodafonedsl.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1464735989 0 :LexiciScriptor!~LexiciScr@net-37-117-85-202.cust.vodafonedsl.it QUIT :Client Quit < 1464736215 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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