00:18:02 > log (1.7 * 10**38) 00:18:03 88.02886178483591 00:18:08 > exp 88 :: Float 00:18:10 1.6516363e38 00:18:18 > exp 89 :: Float 00:18:21 Infinity 00:19:16 comex... isn't here 00:19:17 Blah 00:19:31 <\oren\> what the heck is "Jan Mayen" 00:20:33 bon joily 00:20:56 (hurray for daytime that extents until 9pm) 00:21:49 `wisdom 00:22:11 off by two//An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. 00:22:13 `? infinity 00:22:18 infinity? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:23:04 -!- dos has joined. 00:24:47 hmm. it is suddenly very important that i create an esolang such that "being locked in a matrix of solidity" is meaningful in terms of describing program state 00:25:14 `le/rn infinity/In finity we trust. 00:25:19 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:25:29 Learned «infinity» 00:26:06 `le/rn finity/Enjoy being locked in your matrix of finity. 00:26:13 Learned «finity» 00:26:48 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:27:23 hppavellon[1] 00:29:10 -!- dos has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:31:38 -!- Koen_ has joined. 00:31:52 seems like he's having lots of them connection issues 00:32:09 hi koen 00:34:41 hi quintopia 00:34:55 connection tissues are important 00:38:52 only if they help with the issues 00:41:15 `? shakespeare 00:41:21 shakespeare? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:41:25 `le/rn shakespeare/And besicue and a saint and son the may bean the butcious and one them bear and may me for here the mance of my lord, and leave and thou arl of the prince and will not and and hour blood and the be buralont; 00:41:28 Learned «shakespeare» 00:42:14 tswett: is your keyboard drunk? 00:46:13 bonsointopia! 00:48:45 it turned from day to evening in the time it took you to reply 00:50:22 No no, that's from one of Shakespeare's plays. 00:51:25 No, it's from your matrix multiplier. 00:51:30 A relatively obscure one: "The Man the Confent and the Confent and the Man the Man and the Man". 00:51:41 Okay, I confess, it's from my matrix multiplier. 00:51:41 I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. 00:52:00 `addquote I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. 00:52:03 1281) I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. 00:52:07 is it just a shakespearean markov chain? 00:52:22 coppro: Did you see the discussion in #haskell about copprofunctors? 00:53:52 slightly 00:55:07 quintopia: no, it's a neural net. 00:55:22 No, it's an artificial neural network. 00:55:30 ugh, okay, one last time: 00:55:41 has anyone else in this channel looked at http://skullcode.com/ before? 00:57:05 Is that viewer thing looking at its own memory? 00:59:00 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:59:40 Phantom_Hoover: is that some kind of mastermind-like riddle? 01:00:17 something like that, it's a 32-bit VM with a hex editor loaded into it 01:01:10 but if you scroll down to the address 00006666 there's a graphic with an exclamation mark in it, and if you overwrite that exclamation mark with a space or NUL then stuff starts happening 01:02:24 http://skullcode.com/bootstrap/hexboot.txt if you want to play the more dangerous game than just mess around in the browser. 01:03:02 that thing's for x86, though, and a lot smaller than skullcode; it's a spiritual predecessor 01:05:28 there's a block of encrypted data from 61b0 to 65b0; it's pretty easy to play along with it and get a password that'll decrypt the first 32 bytes, but i have no clue how to get at the rest 01:12:22 i wrote a disassembler if anyone's interested 01:23:46 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:24:55 zhoily. 01:26:09 @tell int-e I think GND is still not considered to be SafeHaskell anyway. <-- oh right. 01:26:10 Consider it noted. 01:26:46 @tell int-e anyway, turns out there's probably no exploit there. 01:26:46 Consider it noted. 01:27:48 oerjan: GND is the opposite end from Vcc hth 01:28:35 fungot: do you do electronics? 01:28:35 boily: this is not the other way around... fnord/ home 01:28:45 fungot: apparently not. 01:28:45 boily: i'm editing this down. user:guernseykidguernseykid 03:54, 26 june 2006 ( utc). small—preceding wikipedia:signaturesunsigned comment added by special:contributions/ fnord) 01:28:59 boily: wat 01:29:47 oerjan: when designing circuits, you have Vcc on one end, and GND at the other end. stuff go between them. 01:29:55 hm 01:30:09 * oerjan doesn't really do electronics, obviously. 01:32:24 electronics aren't very much more complicated than that. Vcc is the plus end on your battery. I give you two tries to match what GND is :P 01:32:51 boily: you heard about super mario bros being pspace-complete? 01:32:56 nowadays, it's like: read the spreadsheet, supply the correct voltage, ?????, profit. 01:32:59 wish i could find a preprint 01:33:01 quintopia: eh? 01:33:22 s/spread/spec/. damned time spent doing excel. 01:33:36 boily: i had already guessed what GND is. 01:33:42 boily: turns out you can make arbitrary circuits by opening or closing pathways by jumping to bump spinies on one or another side of a brick barrier 01:34:27 * boily is intrigued 01:34:35 me too 01:34:47 but the paper isn't presented until next week, and it isn't available anywhere 01:34:59 not even on arxiv? 01:36:12 The horror <-- i get the impression hppavilion[1] is a bit sensitive. 01:36:50 nope 01:37:00 * boily horrifies hppavilion[1] with a pluridimensional mapole 01:46:36 `wisdom usual 01:46:39 usual suspect//There are 3.99 usual suspects in #esoteric, but they're usually rounded up. 01:46:46 -!- quintopia has changed nick to Quintopia. 01:50:52 `culprits wisdom/usual 01:51:00 No output. 01:51:06 `culprits wisdom/usual suspect 01:51:15 shachaf shachaf 01:51:38 i am conflicted. 01:51:42 shachaf is the usual suspect 01:52:12 on the one hand, that deserves a swat, on the other i didn't get the pun until now. 01:52:36 * oerjan gives shachaf an IOU for a swat. 01:53:06 oerjan: Wait, you didn't get the pun until now? 01:53:11 correct. 01:53:13 That explains why I wasn't swatted. 01:53:22 I thought for sure that one would earn me a swat. 01:54:31 i take it nobody else is very interested in skullcode then 01:54:34 oerjan: do you have a mobile internettified swatter? 01:55:42 that's too many buzzwords tdnh 01:57:31 also too many acronyms 01:57:51 you should try the new iSwatter. comes in a tall glass! 01:58:25 (what pun?) 01:59:24 Did you see _Casablanca_? 01:59:30 Koen_: in the wisdom hth 02:00:26 is that because round up might mean two things? 02:00:42 ...yes. 02:02:08 -!- Kaynato has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:06:23 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:07:37 :( 02:07:59 problems? 02:09:20 yes. i can't install/upgrade vmail because of a problem with its gem dependencies. i don't know enough about ruby and gems to fix it. 02:10:47 neither do i. 02:21:36 `` ls wisdom/*zout* 02:21:44 wisdom/bezout \ wisdom/bézout \ wisdom/bezout's \ wisdom/bézout's \ wisdom/bezout's theorem \ wisdom/bézout's theorem 02:22:02 `culprits wisdom/bezout 02:22:08 `culprits wisdom/bézout 02:22:09 b_jonas 02:22:14 b_jonas 02:22:16 `culprits wisdom/bezout's 02:22:16 also it appears that i can't install vim with clientserver flag enabled (or compile it from source) without installing most of gnome? 02:22:21 b_jonas 02:22:24 `culprits wisdom/bézout's 02:22:28 b_jonas 02:22:34 `culprits wisdom/bézout's theorem 02:22:38 `culprits wisdom/bezout's theorem 02:22:42 b_jonas 02:22:47 b_jonas 02:23:30 `` rm -v wisdom/b{e,é}zout{,\'s} 02:23:35 removed `wisdom/bezout' \ removed `wisdom/bezout\'s' \ removed `wisdom/bézout' \ removed `wisdom/bézout\'s' 02:24:04 @tell b_jonas seriously, don't make 6 copies of the same wisdom entry. 02:24:04 Consider it noted. 02:26:47 `? bezout's theorem 02:26:49 Bézout's theorem says that if a system of polynomial equations over the complexes has as many variables as equations, then in the general case the number of solutions it has is equal to the product of one less than the degrees of the polynomials. 02:26:52 what if they were symbolic links? 02:26:58 What? 02:27:08 Quintopia: sadly, symbolic links sometimes get broken. 02:27:13 -!- spiette has quit (Quit: :qa!). 02:27:18 by `reverts. 02:27:30 -!- boily has quit (Quit: TIGHT CHICKEN). 02:29:21 (not that i care in this case, it's a crappy entry.) 02:29:30 Ī keep forgetting about mȳ macron propōsal. 02:29:58 Whȳ dōn't Ī tȳpe līke this all the tīme? 02:34:04 oerjan: I forget, what was I horrified about? 02:34:19 hppavilion[1]: goat sex hth 02:34:20 Ah, yes 02:34:24 I remember now 03:33:25 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 03:36:13 Kinda interesting looking at video memory in a hex editor. 03:37:25 The thing is, of course, you're looking at a display of the display. Like pointing a TV camera at the TV that's showing the signal. 03:43:13 * oerjan soundly swats shachaf -----### 03:44:05 delayed-action logreading 03:44:39 the speed of sound isn't that great 03:45:09 i,i faster than the speed of sound in a vacuum 03:51:15 @tell gamemanj spräk does not mean language hth 03:51:15 Consider it noted. 03:54:31 `? i,i 03:54:41 i,i i,i what is i,i 03:55:37 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 04:00:54 tswett: ask rntz hth 04:01:11 I never know what it actually stands for. 04:11:34 [wiki] [[Z]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47098&oldid=47066 * 71.202.114.203 * (+129) 04:16:52 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:22:20 Oooh 04:22:24 Subfactorial is a thing 04:26:41 5-3=-15 04:32:11 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 04:42:13 <\oren\> what is the inverse of factorial called? 04:42:31 fictionorial 04:51:38 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:54:39 ..huh 04:54:44 *... 04:54:57 Atoms literally pass through each other when going fast enough 04:55:05 That's it, I'm convinced. The universe is a simulation. 04:55:11 And a rather poorly-made one at that 05:01:50 -!- lambda-11235 has joined. 05:04:44 `quote 1281 05:04:46 1281) I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. 05:05:02 `delquote 1281 05:05:11 *poof* I don't think your thing is refined enough to go in wisdom/ yet. 05:05:16 see, now you don't even need to worry about the double space 05:05:19 OKAY 05:10:34 shachaf: You're only allowed to delete quotes after reading at least 5 quotes hth 05:11:18 (As in, for every 5 quotes you read in a 1-hour timespan, you may delete one of the quotes that you read) 05:12:46 `sled hppavilion[1]///./d 05:12:51 Rosebud! 05:13:11 oerjan: have you considered that some people don't want to have movie spoilers right in HackEgo hth 05:15:37 no. 05:15:41 tdh 05:16:07 For example a decade ago I didn't even know about that spoiler. 05:16:10 shachaf: Wait, what? How does sled work again? 05:16:23 hppavilion[1]: i don't think that rule applies to very recent quotes hth 05:16:31 oerjan: Oh, right 05:16:55 `quote do they work.*zzo38 05:16:56 1056) Hmm, is an Electronic Signature in a PDF file a thing? How do they work? [1] Yes. [2] It doesn't. 05:19:22 hppavilion[1]: it lets you apply a sed script to a file hth 05:19:31 oerjan: Oh? 05:19:58 "This is generation 0. Every time you see this line in a signature, if your signature does not already contain such a line, add this line to your signature with the count multiplied by i and incremented by 1" 05:20:23 `sled canary//s/ø/ꙮ/ 05:20:24 canary//test 05:20:27 oops 05:20:37 someone's changed it 05:20:48 `mv canary tmp 05:20:49 mv: missing destination file operand after `canary tmp' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. 05:21:17 `cp canary tmp 05:21:18 cp: missing destination file operand after `canary tmp' \ Try `cp --help' for more information. 05:21:29 `sled canary//s/e/ꙮ/ 05:21:32 canary//tꙮst 05:21:39 <\oren\> `quote canary 05:21:40 No output. 05:23:13 The first 100 possibilities are 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 1+0i 1+1i 1i 0i 05:23:19 Much less interesting than I thought 05:23:47 <\oren\> `quote hpp 05:23:48 1244) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there \ 1255) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang \ 1256) `quote hach 05:24:25 hppavilion[1]: looks a bit repetive 05:24:26 598) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. \ 608) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. \ 612) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has g 05:24:41 `quote 612 05:24:41 oerjan: Yes, it does 05:24:42 612) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theory. 05:25:08 oerjan: I should probably think about complex numbers before using them. 05:25:24 First figure out the mplex numbers. 05:25:44 Or you can figure out the simplex numbers. 05:25:51 shachaf: Those are the split-complexes, aren't they? 05:26:03 Maybe a simplicial complex is made out of a simplex number and a complex number. 05:26:38 ørjan is an expert in simplicial complexes and homology and all sorts of things 05:26:42 shachaf: I do like smashing together different types of complex 05:26:45 I bet he's taught oerjan a thing or two. 05:26:50 @google simplicial complex 05:26:51 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplicial_complex 05:26:53 like a+bi+cj+dij 05:27:34 hppavilion[1]: aren't you confusing complexes and hadrons 05:27:58 <\oren\> Agh everything is exploding 05:27:59 oerjan: What's a hadron? As in, the large kind that we like colliding? 05:28:18 they aren't that large 05:28:25 indeed they're not 05:28:35 they're larger than electrons, though 05:28:38 true 05:28:45 it's all relative; good thing we have theories to handle that 05:28:50 well, by mass. 05:28:59 coppro: Um, then why do we have a machine to collide large hadrons? 05:29:11 hppavilion[1]: because who doesn't like exotic explosions? 05:29:35 <\oren\> I don't like it when my fuel tanks explode 05:29:51 coppro: No one, but if hadrons weren't large, then a collider for large hadrons wouldn't be able to make exotic explosions. 05:30:01 Because there wouldn't be anything to collide 05:30:16 true 05:30:29 it's all got to do with the theory of relativity 05:30:38 at relativistic speeds, hadrons are relatively large 05:30:40 Being able to use dvorak at a wpm so high you need scientific notation to express it is useless when you're at a qwerty keyboard 05:30:50 that's why the collider needs to get them going so fast 05:31:22 I prefer the obscene hardon collider myself, though 05:31:38 we were trying not to make that joke, hppavilion[1] 05:31:48 oerjan: I was too, but I failed 05:32:05 oerjan: I at least found a mildly funny context for it 05:32:08 fun fact: the LHC beam has about 362 MJ in it during the course of normal operation 05:32:32 that's about $18 of electricity 05:32:32 coppro: Meh. I prefer HJ-scale colliders 05:32:53 those are some expensive dollars 05:33:00 oerjan: Yes 05:33:42 HJ? 05:34:23 don't answer that. 05:34:38 ohhh 05:34:45 coppro: Hellajoule 05:35:19 * oerjan realizes he has a dirtier mind than hppavilion[1], then implodes. 05:35:24 oerjan: What? Do you have something against hellajoules, or did you think it was another pointless joke? 05:35:30 hectojoule, i assume 05:35:34 oerjan: Yep, you thought it was dirty, when it wasn't 05:35:36 * hppavilion[1] wins 05:35:41 * happydance 05:35:50 IT WAS A TRAP 05:35:55 <\oren\> I know what oerjan was thinking 05:35:59 oerjan: It was not 05:36:13 I'm still trying to figure it out. My best guess is H=hand 05:36:36 Of course, I prefer the Large Boson Collider to the Large Hadron Collider any day 05:37:37 (OK, I have to ask: Is there a physics reason why Boson collisions aren't interesting? Or are they just impossible to deal with in the same way the LHC deals with Hadrons, so we had to make a choice and chose to make a Large Hadron Collider instead of a Large Boson Collider?) 05:38:37 oerjan: Of course, if it makes you feel better, my mind is almost certainly dirtier than yours; I just happen to have developed a filter that prevents me from saying 999.9999999999952‰ of things that come to mind 05:38:54 hppavilion[1]: you can collide composite nuclei that are bosons, i think. 05:39:16 oerjan: Wait, I forget, are Hadrons and Bosons mutually exclusive? 05:39:21 God, so many particle types 05:39:28 i think they are colliding lead, but i'm not sure whether they're bosonic or fermionic. 05:40:26 hppavilion[1]: no, mesons are hadrons and bosons iirc. but you cannot keep them long enough to use them. 05:40:32 oerjan: Ah 05:40:52 Is there a meson called the Black Meson? 05:41:17 (A reference, of course, to Black Mesa from various Valve games I've never played) 05:41:45 basically protons, electrons, and their antiversions are the only charged subatomic particles that live long enough to be used, i think. 05:42:16 hppavilion[1]: i don't think there's one, they're usually named after greek letters. 05:42:23 oerjan: Yeah :/ 05:43:16 oerjan: ...question #492 on my Grand List of Questions: How the hell can there be such thing as an "Anti-neutron"? If an antiparticle has the opposite charge, and a neutron has no charge, how can there be such a thing as the opposite of 0? 05:45:34 hppavilion[1]: btw i think some people are trying to collide photons, which are bosons. 05:46:24 oerjan: ...collide photons? You have something moving at literally the speed of light, and which from its point of view the entire universe is in the same place, and you're trying to make them hit each other? 05:47:32 hppavilion[1]: the anti-neutron consists of 3 anti-quarks, each of which is the antiparticle of a corresponding quark in the neutron. 05:47:48 oerjan: Ah, yes, that works 05:47:57 I forgot about quarks 05:48:17 I wonder what we're going to call it when we find something smaller than a quark... (don't argue, you know it's going to happen) 05:48:25 (for a certain value of "consists". there are all manner of virtual gluons and quarks inside.) 05:50:31 hppavilion[1]: i didn't say getting photons to collide is easy. (and i'm not sure whether it was supposed to be within currently realistic technology or not.) 05:50:51 although you just to aim enough in the same spot, you'd think. 05:50:56 *+have 05:51:27 oerjan: Furthermore, you'd think that a couple photons would have collided at some point near a scientific instrument in the last decade or so 05:51:44 I mean, photons are small 05:51:50 But there are also a lot of them 05:52:03 It doesn't seem like they could /not/ collide if it was possible 05:54:07 hppavilion[1]: fwiw your question about anti-neutrons applies much better to anti-_neutrinos_. (in which case something called "chirality" related to spin becomes reversed) 05:55:25 but neutrinos are so weird some theorize they are their own antiparticles ("Majorana neutrinos") 06:00:53 Santorum: "If people thought about gay sex as much as I do, they'd understand how disgusting it is" 06:02:37 O KAY 06:03:17 oerjan: Like Chu spaces? 06:03:32 shachaf: wat 06:03:35 And vector spaces, I guess. 06:03:41 self-dual 06:05:43 sounds a bit of a thin connection 06:05:58 (no pun intended) 06:06:19 -!- Xe has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:06:31 (or recognized) 06:06:58 Well, it's not all that thin, because I was thinking of Chu spaces just now. 06:09:58 practically monofilamentary 06:10:55 Do you like Chu spaces? 06:13:17 "Would you rather be able to fly, but only at 0.000001c, or be able to breath underwater, but only for a millicentury" 06:13:42 ^^^good "would you rather" to differentiate those who do understand math/physics/SI/etc from those who do not 06:14:31 please reconsider the perspective that leads you to write a sentence like that twh 06:14:42 shachaf: Me? 06:14:48 you 06:14:52 shachaf: Me? 06:15:13 * hppavilion[1] desperately scrambles for a joke to make out of this 06:15:28 shachaf: Which perspective in particular? 06:17:20 shachaf: I don't see which perspective I need to reconsider 06:17:29 There are a few I need to deconsider, though 06:24:03 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 06:24:24 -!- ^v has joined. 06:36:02 hppavilion[1]: always decant cider 06:40:35 <\oren\> I prefer Pika spaces 06:40:44 <\oren\> there 06:41:17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible: A 640-year song 06:56:55 I can't help but read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari in a stereotypical Jamaican accent 06:57:09 At least, specific subsegments 06:58:23 obviously you should sing it to a reggae beat hth 07:20:07 -!- Xe has joined. 07:50:20 oerjan: um, if symlinks don't work, then could we have some other mechanism for aliasing wisdoms then? 07:55:21 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Quit: Bye). 08:04:56 maybe. 08:05:16 I've wanted to set something like that up. 08:05:38 Wisdom redirects or something. Wisdom wildcards. Who even, like, knows, man. 08:24:26 shachaf: so add a wisdom/location directory, and if wisdom/$foo is not found, wisdom/location/$foo is read and it gives the canonical name to redirect to 08:24:46 How is that an improvement over links? 08:24:55 shachaf: not broken by revert 08:25:08 Oh, is that what it was about? 08:25:26 yeah 08:26:39 mind you, with any kind of links you have the problem that the two versions either may get accidentally out of sync, or accidentally edited together when the edit only fits one of them. 08:40:52 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:50:07 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 08:51:14 -!- Akaibu has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:50:55 -!- S1_p has joined. 09:51:32 Oh, the wisdomme is back. Yay. 09:55:45 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 10:09:47 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:26:18 -!- Koen_ has joined. 10:26:32 hello 10:34:33 hello 10:35:01 why is glogbot broken again 10:46:59 Ok, so I think I want to set up an alias that can do a git checkout to an existing branch, but will absolutely refuse to do the file restore operation that the git checkout command also does. 10:47:30 Also, I'd like it to print the previous branch or commit that was checked out, so it's easy to follow what happens. 10:49:58 git checkout is just too dangerous as is 10:52:51 I wonder how to convince git checkout to do this. 10:53:17 You'd want it to update what HEAD points at and maybe the index, but not do anything to the working tree? 10:53:38 fizzie: no, I do want to do a full checkout, as in update the working tree and the index too 10:53:52 Oh, just disallow the variant of checkout that takes paths? 10:53:58 fizzie: yes, that 10:54:28 git's syntax for objects and paths are horribly ugly, and there are magical syntaxes that apply to both but have a completely different meaning 10:54:47 like, :/foo is both a path and an object, but the :/ means something completely different 10:54:58 the syntax is just horrible 10:55:43 svn does this much better, there the syntax of urls (pointing to a file in a repository, or a version of a file in a repository) have a syntax that's not only disjoint from that of paths, but also visually different 10:55:49 so you can't accidentally confuse them 10:56:12 and the git checkout interface is horrible because it combines a safer operation with a very unsafe irreversible operation 11:00:56 You might just allow -- in a script -- unambiguously-an-existing-branch-and-nothing-else options, and then fall back to being careful and using the raw command if you need to do something strange. 11:01:03 Hopefully that'd cover most branch-switches. 11:22:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:25:34 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:35:17 -!- boily has joined. 11:36:53 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 11:37:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:38:40 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:41:16 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:42:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:43:06 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:51:03 fizzie: I don't know, it's probably possible to solve in some way like that, but I'll have to do some careful testing on it 11:52:04 I certainly don't want to checkout only existing branches. I often checkout -b to create a new branch (from HEAD or another commit), but the script can probably test for that. 11:52:36 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47099&oldid=40050 * 80.7.4.196 * (+5) Fixed a bug - & has a higher precedence than -, so the - following it had to be wrapped in <> 11:53:04 hey, maybe I could make a script that does like (git checkout -B foo foo) to checkout branch foo 11:53:13 how do you pronounce ~-~! 11:53:38 but... why can't git just have at least an unambiguous long switch or command to force this, to make my life easier? 11:54:10 and when I solve this, I'll still have to solve the interface of git reset and git branch, although for those the ambiguity is less dangerous and for git branch I think I already know the solution 11:54:38 -!- gamemanj has joined. 12:10:34 -!- IvanSiber has joined. 12:15:01 `relcome IvanSiber 12:15:23 hey boily 12:15:32 IvanSiber: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 12:18:17 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47100&oldid=47099 * 80.7.4.196 * (+1) Added a : to the end of write comment 12:20:30 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805]). 12:28:36 -!- boily has quit (Quit: OPPOSITE CHICKEN). 12:29:54 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 12:35:58 Ok, I set up an alias such that (git switch foo) will do the same as (git checkout foo --). This works even with multiple arguments, and shouldn't checkout paths, unless I explicitly pass "--" as an argument. 12:35:59 -!- PinealGlandOptic has joined. 12:39:07 ok, so my previous messing around during this week has finally come to a conclusion: 12:39:10 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/kyouma/index.html 12:43:07 -!- Akaibu has joined. 12:43:42 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:44:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:44:08 tswett: "i,i" means roughly "I have nothing to contribute, I just like saying", i.e. it's a prefix for off-topic one-liners 12:44:30 comes from CMU zephyr (an old messaging protocol), I think 12:45:35 `? oona 12:45:50 oona? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 12:45:51 `card-by-name oona 12:45:54 Oona's Blackguard \ 1B \ Creature -- Faerie Rogue \ 1/1 \ Flying \ Each other Rogue creature you control enters the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter on it. \ Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card. \ MOR-U \ \ Oona's Gatewarden \ (u/b) \ Creature -- Faerie 12:45:58 `card-by-name oona, 12:46:00 Oona, Queen of the Fae \ 3(u/b)(u/b)(u/b) \ Legendary Creature -- Faerie Wizard \ 5/5 \ Flying \ {X}{(u/b)}: Choose a color. Target opponent exiles the top X cards of his or her library. For each card of the chosen color exiled this way, put a 1/1 blue and black Faerie Rogue creature token with flying onto the battlefield. \ SHM-R, MMA-R, V11-M 12:51:43 -!- S1_p has quit. 12:54:06 -!- puckipedia has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 12:59:10 -!- puckipedia has joined. 13:08:13 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805]). 13:10:21 -!- MoALTz has joined. 13:14:29 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 13:18:52 Oona is the 175th most common female name in Finland, with ~7500 people. 13:19:26 Interesting. 13:19:36 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47101&oldid=47100 * 80.7.4.196 * (+105) Grammar and clarification 13:21:23 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47102&oldid=47101 * 80.7.4.196 * (-1) Changed associativity of & 13:22:59 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47103&oldid=47102 * 80.7.4.196 * (-2) Bugfix - removed trailing : 13:29:36 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47104&oldid=47103 * 80.7.4.196 * (+173) Clarification about : 13:30:33 [wiki] [[~-~!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47105&oldid=47104 * 80.7.4.196 * (+1) Bugfix - removed trailing : 13:31:40 I'm getting the feeling asm.js should be classed as esoteric simply because of the crazy type checking 13:31:46 It's endless type checking 13:33:44 not really 13:34:05 it's just a ton of casts to 32-bit int 13:35:19 If I'm trying to be nice, I'd say asm.js is a version of LLVM for the web, but now the type annotations are weirder. 13:35:47 i don't know much about llvm but i'm sceptical 13:36:21 Eh, LLVM's relatively nice, it's like asm.js but you write in actual human-understandable string names for the type names instead of having to understand the exact details of how + modifies it's parameters. 13:36:37 Then again, it's SSA. 13:36:50