00:03:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 00:05:18 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:16:11 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!). 00:24:45 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:30:34 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:50:14 im reading ethereum drama and seeing them describe javascript as 'low-level' 00:50:27 i think basically JS just distorts reality away from all that is sane and good 00:51:03 I am not sure why they describe JavaScript as "low-level". 00:53:12 There are a few problems with JavaScript such as automatic-semicolon-insertion, but mostly it is OK I think. But some things are better programmed in other programming languages such as C or assembly language. 00:55:14 (A few of the other problems would be that it lacks macros and goto) 00:55:31 -!- lamer14662894610 has changed nick to moonythedwarf. 00:56:45 im starting to like lde 00:56:48 *lxde 00:57:08 Phantom_Hoover: Javascript, low level? 00:57:13 What madness. 00:58:33 the funny part is that they are (correctly) calling the ethereum community a pack of script kiddies who know fuck all about actual coding, whilst showing that they themselves know fuck all about actual coding 00:58:35 I use a window manager without a desktop environment. 00:59:03 -!- Melvar` has joined. 00:59:34 Generally, im trying to get a IDE running 00:59:35 -!- Melvar has quit (Disconnected by services). 00:59:39 -!- Melvar` has changed nick to Melvar. 00:59:47 is there one that works good with LXDE? 00:59:53 IDE for what? 01:00:00 C/C++ 01:00:31 I don't know; I don't use LXDE or any other desktop environment, nor do I use any IDE. 01:00:50 -!- idris-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 01:01:58 -!- idris-bot has joined. 01:04:03 i just... oh my god why would you invent money governed by autonomous code running with no oversight and then say "i know what language we'll use for this! JS!" 01:04:41 I don't know? It doesn't make much sense to me 01:10:32 `? klein bottle 01:11:26 A Klein bottle is like a torus, but more insidious. Taneb tried to invent it, but got trapped inside. 01:11:38 oerjan++ # excellent unintentional pun 01:12:41 which pun? 01:13:54 The last word of the first sentence. 01:14:20 oh right he claimed that it was unintentional 01:14:29 I found that hard to believe 01:39:38 -!- spockers_ has changed nick to spockers. 01:50:12 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:09:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 02:09:54 It's always annoying when 9/11 is referred to as "the most defining event of the century" 02:10:06 I mean, what was the most defining event of the 20th century? 02:12:37 21st century, no? 02:22:15 -!- lamer14662988574 has joined. 02:23:51 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:24:30 -!- lamer14662988574 has quit (Client Quit). 02:25:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:25:50 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 02:36:10 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!). 02:51:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:58:45 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:08:37 -!- FredStockton has joined. 03:20:49 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:27:27 -!- FredStockton has left. 03:28:04 -!- lambda-11235 has joined. 03:32:14 -!- augur has joined. 03:42:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 03:43:58 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:50:01 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!). 03:54:05 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:54:14 -!- augur has joined. 03:57:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:01:49 What *was* the most defining event of the 20th century? 04:01:51 Hiroshima? 04:05:15 -!- augur has joined. 04:09:01 -!- lamer14663052626 has joined. 04:09:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 04:10:06 -!- lamer14663052626 has changed nick to moon_. 04:10:24 I now offically LOVE linux 04:11:25 OK. What kind of distribution and software and so on are you using? 04:11:53 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 04:12:56 -!- xkapastel has joined. 04:15:11 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:15:22 Debian LXDE/Terminal Editor: Nano/Kdevelop etc etc 04:15:45 Also, i have yet to get it on a actual pc ): im stuck with guest additions 04:16:13 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 04:20:21 well now my internet is being annoying and i running at 20 kb/s )= 04:27:28 -!- augur has joined. 04:28:42 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 04:30:44 -!- variable has joined. 04:34:21 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 04:38:21 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:40:04 Seamless mode helps alot 04:41:35 -!- augur has joined. 04:59:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 05:05:20 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:12:54 -!- variable has quit (Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero). 05:15:43 -!- Destructible has joined. 05:17:05 hi 05:17:40 ello? 05:18:11 anybody? 05:18:12 hi 05:18:16 yay 05:18:21 hi izabera 05:18:32 yo 05:18:51 hi izabera 05:18:57 hi moon_ 05:18:58 hello 05:19:55 so, I had an idea for an esolang again 05:20:05 what is it 05:20:15 in a nutshell 05:20:25 functions that call functions that call functions 05:20:37 functions only? 05:20:41 And then what? 05:20:54 Functions only has been done 05:21:09 yes 05:21:11 I know 05:21:29 the idea is that the main code can only be so long 05:21:36 like, 10 characters or something 05:21:51 and so functions have to be used, to contain the code 05:22:03 but functions also have a ten character limit 05:22:15 I think that is also done, kind of 05:22:26 maybe 05:23:26 sounds like minimalized functonalized C 05:28:48 -!- Destructible has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 05:29:06 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:29:42 myname: My point was (a) it's 2016, we don't know what the defining event of the century is and (b) even if it was 2100, we probably couldn't name the most defining event of the modern era 05:29:51 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:30:42 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 05:31:54 "Radical centrism" 05:35:33 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:35:57 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 05:38:43 -!- APic has joined. 05:41:25 -!- Destructible has joined. 05:42:22 The head of Human Resources at a company should have the title ASE (All-Seeing Eye) 05:43:43 "However, there are no fnords in the advertisements" 05:43:48 -- Actual Wikipedia Quote 05:48:29 really 05:54:18 Destructible: Yes 05:54:31 Destructible: Granted, it's the page for the The Illuminatus! Trilogy 05:54:39 Destructible: Which is what brought 'fnord' into popular usage 05:54:46 ok 05:56:12 didn't it also invent fnord 05:56:33 coppro: No, Principia Discordia invented fnord 05:57:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 06:07:14 -!- clog has joined. 06:08:03 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:08:36 -!- augur has joined. 06:10:14 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:10:24 p 06:14:21 -!- augur has joined. 06:26:48 hi 06:29:22 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:30:02 -!- moon_ has joined. 06:33:17 -!- Destructible has quit (Quit: Page closed). 06:36:14 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:50:20 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 07:03:34 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:25:14 -!- augur has joined. 07:30:12 -!- variable has joined. 07:33:37 http://www.binsim.com/ really interesting 07:37:07 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Quit: Bye). 07:52:34 -!- LexiciScriptor has joined. 08:00:41 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 08:08:04 -!- augur has joined. 08:08:55 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 08:12:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 08:16:06 *sees square in picture* illuminati debunked 08:16:08 -!- variable has quit (Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero). 08:42:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:54:51 -!- gamemanj has joined. 08:55:56 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:09:24 It's weird how YouTube says a particular channel was active n hours ago, but won't tell you what that activity was- if it wasn't a new video, it isn't listed at all 09:32:25 Hm, perhaps I should roll different first-person personal pronouns into my pronountroll not for usage by myself but by /those addressing me/ 09:50:00 The internet is an amazing place 09:51:15 It's always fun to discover something you'd never think was possible that is now profitable 09:52:51 Like, I would tell you this was an April Fool's joke if I hadn't stumbled across it myself 09:59:03 -!- LexiciScriptor has quit (Quit: LexiciScriptor). 10:15:34 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 10:30:22 -!- Destructible has joined. 10:30:24 hi 10:35:29 -!- LexiciScriptor has joined. 10:40:11 hi 10:40:37 -!- Destructible has quit (Quit: Page closed). 10:41:35 -!- LexiciScriptor has quit (Quit: LexiciScriptor). 10:43:43 -!- augur has joined. 10:48:03 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 11:05:40 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:06:41 https://t.co/V1SRLKfCo7 c++ 11:09:13 -!- MoALTz has joined. 11:11:08 unicode is crazy... though in this particular instance one might question the wisdom of allowing whitespace in identifiers. 11:12:10 It's simple. 11:12:17 Compiler developers like to remain sane 11:12:23 `unidecode аa 11:12:41 If compiler devs had to keep track of Unicode and decide which characters are "suitable", they'd go nuts. 11:12:47 ​[U+0430 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER A] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] 11:13:11 So they just handle it in UTF-8 and mark 0x80 to 0xFF as ID characters. 11:13:50 So if you want to use emoji as variable names... 11:13:53 you can 11:14:06 The compiler devs just don't care since otherwise they'd go nuts. 11:14:46 My main point was that disallowing whitespace would not really solve that problem, since there are distinct unicode codepoints that map to the same glyph anyway 11:16:42 gamemanj: you usually can just use a unicode library and say "anything that is a letter can be a variable name" 11:17:01 i am pretty sure zws do not fit in that category 11:17:05 -!- jaboja has joined. 11:17:27 myname: let me just go look at the size of some files for a sec... 11:18:31 File: 'libicudata.so.57.1' 11:18:31 Size: 25674392 11:18:41 int-e: you are right with your example. however, you could in theory make an editor render them differently wheres doing so on a zws is not always an option 11:18:43 now go look at a windows installation of, say, Wireshark 11:18:53 and you should see the problem with embedding one of these with every program 11:19:09 who said anything about embedding? 11:19:18 On Linux it's a system lib but on Windows you don't get that 11:19:22 also, who cares about that size 11:19:45 24MB is pretty big when there's a much simpler solution 11:19:51 which covers every sane usecase 11:19:58 and is the solution that other C compilers use too 11:20:06 it is oretty big, but it is not a problem at all with current drive sizes 11:20:18 Not a problem, but why bother 11:20:50 doing things the right way often is the right way 11:21:53 When the right way involves shipping a 25MB library just to distingulish between characters, for a parser for a language which doesn't really need to know that information anyway, 11:22:02 I doubt anyone really cares 11:22:31 Obviously you don't need all of those 25MB for the compiler. 11:22:42 But all this is besides the point. 11:23:40 The C language designers (mostly compiler writers) have made a decision, and it's up to the programmers to deal with them... by making sane coding style choices. 11:24:01 "don't use zero-width spaces in your identifiers" seems like a no-brainer. 11:25:02 (for most purposes I would stick to ASCII outside of comments anyway) 11:25:18 and possibly literal strings... depends. 11:25:57 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 11:38:09 Am I the only one around here who wants to put all color TV to shame by making movies that are in MORE than full color? 11:38:16 By including IR and UV 11:38:43 ...give me juuust a second to find a scene that would be really good if it was replicated via this technology 11:39:09 gamemanj: Any movie that includes a nuclear detonation would also include GR 11:39:26 well, I have something just a tad WORSE 11:40:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has set topic: The intradisciplinary hub of solidity matrices, esoteric programming language design, multichannel bot abuse (always safe, sane and consensual), and font forging | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 11:40:27 almost done... 11:40:44 gamemanj: What is it? 11:40:52 uploading... 11:41:34 gamemanj: uploading? 11:41:48 ...waiting for things to actually synchronize... 11:42:09 (Things are running rather slowly today) 11:42:16 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/vlcsnap-2016-06-19-11h40m17s769.png 11:42:25 this 11:42:56 I'm sure they'll love it to death 11:43:24 gamemanj: My god that would be amazing 11:43:39 And it's actually possible because that scene appears to be 100% CGI 11:44:01 (Though it wouldn't work for the whole film, as not all of it is CGI apparently) 11:44:06 film? 11:44:39 gamemanj: That's from the new Star Wars, isn't it? 11:44:44 Actually it's the second episode of the first-2005-reboot series of Doctor Who. 11:44:49 * hppavilion[1] prepares to seppuku if he's wrong 11:44:53 Oh? 11:44:56 Let me look again 11:45:08 Oh yeah, it is 11:45:18 The one in the year 10^9 11:45:27 One gigayear in the future 11:45:32 And other sciency puns 11:45:37 Still, the fact you got it so wrong shows that taxpayer money isn't going to waste 11:45:51 See, I remember seeing a ship looks like the space station in the new Star Wars 11:45:54 Or, at least, wasn't. 11:46:34 It may have been something else, I suppose 11:47:30 Maybe I saw it in a HISHE for one of the prequels? 11:48:36 I could have also seen it in a meme and assumed it was from somewhere else for some reason 11:48:40 I'm a real geek, I swear 11:49:42 Show me your registration card, then! 11:51:45 ... 11:52:27 gamemanj: Shall I FTP it to you? It's signed with GPG, though my GPG is so secure that my public key is a secret 11:52:39 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 11:52:42 lol ftp 11:52:43 your public key is a secret. 11:52:45 ... 11:52:48 and FTP. 11:52:49 gamemanj: Correct 11:52:56 who uses FTP nowadays... 11:53:06 FTP = fuckin' telecommunications protocols... 11:53:19 Not to be confused with the more limited FTP = File Transfer Protocol 11:54:11 all you do is making it worse 11:57:11 It's funny that the south is the largest consumer of porn tagged "ebony" in the US 11:57:38 it's rather unusual that you have access to such data 11:57:44 (well, I suppose that could be the black population rather than the outwardly racist population) 11:57:53 gamemanj: Not really; there are lots of studies 11:58:02 by WHO 11:58:14 gamemanj: Many porn sites have given anonymous statistics to scientists or even published the studies themselves 11:58:39 gamemanj: Pornhub has an entire subdomain dedicated to research and data analysis 11:58:45 porn is degrading, I don't see any contradiction 11:59:04 scientific smutty sites setup studies showing some statistical subtleties 11:59:26 Their labs are, of course, staffed by beautiful women wearing lab coats and glasses because the producers think it makes them look smarter 11:59:47 what next, red hair? 12:00:27 int-e: Is it /really/ though? I mean, if you're homophobic, you don't tend to watch lots of gay porn (well, unless you're homophobic BECAUSE you're gay and you're trying to make up for it because of the gay shaming that religion has brought down on you) 12:01:30 My home state clearly has high rates of ADHD; the top search term here is "compilation" 12:02:12 (Then again, maybe that's just me) 12:02:44 Oh, there's a canada version 12:02:56 I'd name the searches, but I don't canada 12:03:19 They appear to be big on (a) animation-based and (b) racially-cast 12:03:28 at least it's not cumpilation 12:04:39 myname: They probably lumped that in but called it "compilation" because it's less obscene 12:05:14 less obscene equals less good 12:05:19 The Yukon Territory is big on... tickling? Really? 12:05:37 And- to no one's surprise- the top term in Quebec is literally "Quebec" 12:06:14 There are literally 4 different provinces that all search by race, and /all of the races are different/ 12:07:11 According to the world map 12:07:28 The most viewed category by women on /the entire north american continent/ is "Lesbian" 12:07:33 Russian women are fans of anal 12:08:02 No data for Saudi Arabia of course 12:08:10 -!- int-e has left. 12:08:53 Oh, the canada map was weighted based on other provinces 12:10:29 Oooh, this is fun, a map of what states should be embarassed for googling more than everyone else(non-porn) 12:10:39 Alaska is too interested in Nicholas Cage 12:10:50 South Dakota loves Lion Hunting 12:11:05 Rhode island- appropriately- wants to know the average penis size 12:11:19 Marylanders don't know whether they're virgins 12:11:41 Illinois...ans want to know whether WWE is fake (it is) 12:11:58 Michigan... does way too many image searches for "outhouse" 12:12:26 (wait, that's wisconsin) 12:13:47 -!- int-e has joined. 12:14:00 My home city is a fan of smoking... weird, I've never searched for that 12:15:34 Far too many people search for "Thanksgiving", by which I mean any at all 12:16:45 OK, honestly Pornhub, don't try to do statistics involving age 12:16:57 You know as well as we do it won't be accurate 12:25:55 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 12:26:35 -!- oerjan has joined. 12:33:39 -!- iaglium has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 12:37:08 oerjanello 12:41:34 oerjan: The current channel discussion is: Search statistics 12:42:31 i shall search for it. linearly. 12:42:40 "Because your forebears oppressed our forebears, we are justified in hating you" 12:42:46 internoon-e 12:43:09 i'm in luck, i'm not descended from bears 12:43:27 oerjan: Really? Most people have about 4 in their family tree 12:43:35 shocking 12:43:41 Hm, what's the most recent common ancestor of bears and humans? 12:44:42 -!- augur has joined. 12:46:48 hppavilion[1]: probably back in the cretaceous, if i'm reading wikipedia right 12:47:11 oerjan: Have you seen Wikipedia's List of Cetations, btw? 12:47:20 yes. 12:47:25 hppavilion[1]: http://www.growlrapp.com/ 12:47:52 oerjan: That's convenient. Has everyone in the channel read every Wikipedia page? 12:48:19 izabera: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I've been looking for something like that 12:48:31 is that a scream of joy? 12:48:35 (A convenient lookup of who to target my hatecrimes at) 12:48:39 * hppavilion[1] is a terrible person 12:49:05 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:49:21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuOBzWF0Aws ("If Google Was a Guy", collegehumor) 12:49:53 (Someone Searches "Boston Bomber", Guygle says "Real Tragedy" and she appends "Cute One") 12:50:46 did you just say guygle 12:51:05 hppavilion[1]: paleontologists and molecular geneticists disagree on just about everything there btw hth 12:51:19 izabera: Yes 12:51:30 hppavilion[1]: only those pages that were mentioned yesterday hth 12:57:02 I wonder if Science can sue Google to get them to stop offering results claiming vaccines cause autism on the grounds that think of the children 13:03:08 Aww, google refuses to do an aileron roll 13:07:18 Flatland as directed by Michael Bay 13:09:15 so the lines are assasins now? 13:09:21 http://www.flatlandthemovie.com/ exists? 13:10:06 Oh, it's on youtube 13:10:07 I think 13:15:50 Waaaaaaaaait 13:15:57 They have a square whose son is a hexagon 13:16:04 I smell inaccuracy 13:16:25 hppavilion[1]: polygonist! 13:16:37 oerjan: That doesn't work 13:16:47 sideist! 13:17:05 oerjan: That's like arguing it's racist to be confused when a white couple's child is black (and no adoption or such has occurred) 13:17:22 (I just had to check I said "adoption" instead of "abduction") 13:18:42 Hm, it's interesting that there are no parallelograms in Flatland (I suppose it has to do with irregularity, but still) 13:21:01 There are also no ovals... 13:26:02 4 + 1 = 6 13:26:06 that's standard maths 13:26:40 ...unless you consider a line to be infinitely thin but two-sided 13:26:46 then it works 13:27:32 Square (4) + Line (2) == Hexagon (6) 13:29:52 so in other news I think hppavilion[1] should start a class called "Flatland Genetics And You: How To Optimize For Success" 13:30:10 with this newfound information 13:31:22 gamemanj: In modal logic, the sum of two positive numbers can be less than the normal sum. But are there any places it can be more? 13:32:15 As I said, it might not be special maths 13:32:27 Just a different consideration of a line 13:36:59 https://github.com/facebookresearch/darkforestGo they opened darkforest 13:57:59 `` sed -i 's/voluminous/above average, not too voluminous, /' wisdom/taneb <-- WHAT DID YOU DO TO YOUR EYEBROWS 13:58:52 `? taneb 13:59:16 Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) 13:59:49 `slwd taneb//s/ but/but/ 13:59:58 wisdom/taneb//Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) 14:06:04 `wisdom tanebventions 14:06:09 tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. 14:19:01 gamemanj: Oh! I found where I saw the similar image! 14:19:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JU4gX6rg8 14:19:48 When? 14:19:58 1:42? 14:20:08 my goodness 14:20:11 you can see the polygons 14:20:24 in that "sphere" 14:23:36 I found that hard to believe <-- IT'S TRUE I SWEAR 14:29:35 What's the proper penance for thinking "You know what would've made the original trilogy better?" 14:33:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSgJeVwjnpc almost makes the prequels seem good 14:34:36 hppavilion[1]: reading through all of darths & droids hth 14:57:49 Wow, tvtropes is already preparing for the next president by referring to Obama as "then-president Barack Obama" 14:57:53 -!- jaboja has joined. 14:58:29 well, better to start now vs. find yourself outdated later 14:58:46 by the time all the references have been found it'll have happened 14:59:34 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 14:59:54 -!- Frooxius has joined. 15:00:50 -!- APic has quit (Read error: No route to host). 15:01:12 -!- LexiciScriptor has joined. 15:02:33 I hate the math clock so much 15:02:44 Because it lists 9 as "3(pi-0.14)" 15:03:40 -!- APic has joined. 15:07:20 -!- Koen_ has joined. 15:09:23 gamemanj: clearly the solution is to use a template 15:22:28 helloerjan 15:24:52 quintellopia 15:26:14 what is your fagorite animal to consume, if any? 15:26:24 favorite 15:27:56 -!- PinealGlandOptic has joined. 15:31:58 -!- boily has joined. 15:32:51 helloily 15:33:09 -!- lambda-11235 has joined. 15:33:37 bohily 15:34:10 -!- LexiciScriptor has quit (Quit: LexiciScriptor). 15:34:38 oerjan wont tell me his favorite animal to consume. what is yours? 15:35:32 quinthellopia! not too hungover from a night of debauchery and wild abandon? 15:35:37 hellørjan! 15:35:45 a little bit yes 15:35:52 I think my all time favourite is pork. 15:36:05 but i have some salty pig and biscuits to comfort me 15:37:16 oerjan: what is your favourite animal to consume? 15:37:27 quintopia: real southern biscuits? 15:38:59 [wiki] [[MailBox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47234&oldid=34448 * IAM * (+63) 15:41:37 i dunno. probably tinned biscuits. my dad makes the real homecooked ones 15:42:37 so...do you need gabeer? 15:44:37 -!- adu has joined. 15:44:53 I could use some gabeer, yes. 15:46:23 beerswap? if there are any quebeers besides unibroue, that is 15:46:39 *quebieres 15:46:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:47:03 The compiler devs just don't care since otherwise they'd go nuts. <-- GHC does call a unicode classification API. which means some identifiers suddenly got illegal last they updated the Unicode version. 15:47:49 and also they're not entirely consistent on the whitespace handling. 15:47:58 (which i reported as a bug once) 15:49:12 -!- LexiciScriptor has joined. 15:49:19 -!- LexiciScriptor has quit (Client Quit). 15:50:48 boily: koalas hth 15:52:16 . o O ( be queer with quebeer ) 15:52:29 quintopia: there are many beers besides Unibroue! 15:52:49 joy 15:52:55 beerswap! 15:53:07 are koalas edible? 15:53:13 almost certainly. 15:53:43 tasty tasty chlamydia 15:53:58 that is certainly misspelled 15:54:10 sgtm hth 15:58:11 `? sgtm 15:58:22 Sergeant Mustard 15:58:30 oh okay 15:58:41 so tdnhful 15:58:43 Seems Good To Me hth 15:58:48 `? nah 15:58:51 no ambiguity here 15:59:32 i lost your address. (in my irclogs somewhere but you're /right there/) 15:59:49 how many beers are in a swap? 16:00:42 eeeeeh... I'd say at least two: a northbound beer and a southbound one. 16:01:39 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:01:47 but a single beer is boring. 16:03:26 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 16:06:32 [wiki] [[Semantic Brain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47235&oldid=45555 * SilverWingedSeraph * (-1) Fix number of cells on the data tape. 16:08:29 yes 16:08:44 so what is the ideal number 16:10:23 a pair of beers sounds right for a start, to gauge postal fees and if it's feasible and stuff like that. 16:12:59 sftm 16:13:22 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 16:14:13 `learn SFTM is the Science Fiction Theory of Mail. 16:14:18 Learned 'sftm': SFTM is the Science Fiction Theory of Mail. 16:14:43 -!- jaboja has joined. 16:18:18 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 16:19:42 * boily casts orb of destruction. FOOM! 16:19:48 * boily cackles evilly :D 16:21:44 :( 16:24:02 was playing crawl, and blasting critters away. 16:24:19 I ain't be destroying nobody here! that'd be mean. 16:47:51 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:49:20 i just found a cute blog. 16:49:43 an oldie writing about growing up in england in the 50s 16:50:01 filled with sneering condescion towards the youth of today 16:50:46 *condescencion 16:53:16 [wiki] [[Semantic Brain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47236&oldid=47235 * SilverWingedSeraph * (+0) /* Language overview */ 16:57:22 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 17:00:40 -!- hwpplayer1 has joined. 17:03:38 I wouldn't consider that a cute blog, myself... 17:06:45 hmm my #esoteric equivalent of http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/ is working out well. (It's #esoteric without hppavilion[1] ...) 17:09:57 int-ello. what is that? 17:10:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:12:14 garfieldminusgarfield is just what the name says... garfield strips with the imaginary talking cat edited out 17:12:18 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Tounz * New user account 17:13:25 -!- Tounz has joined. 17:13:29 Hello 17:15:51 https://github.com/TortegaFR/StackBasedVirtualMachine. 17:17:11 there's a lollipop in a commit message 17:28:35 -!- moon_ has joined. 17:30:51 helloon_! 17:33:26 `` df 17:33:35 df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory 17:33:40 welp 17:33:44 `` df / 17:33:46 df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ - 0 0 0 - / 17:34:04 `` mount; cat /proc/mounts 17:34:07 none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host 17:35:22 `` ls /dev/zero 17:35:24 ​/dev/zero 17:35:37 -!- jaboja has joined. 17:35:37 `` dd if=/dev/zero of=zero bs=1G count=1 17:35:42 dd: memory exhausted by input buffer of size 1073741824 bytes (1.0 GiB) 17:35:54 `` du -b zero 17:35:57 0zero 17:36:03 `` dd if=/dev/zero of=zero bs=1M count=1 17:36:08 1+0 records in \ 1+0 records out \ 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.018102 s, 57.9 MB/s 17:36:15 `` dd if=/dev/zero of=zero bs=1M count=100 17:36:26 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: 296 File size limit exceededdd if=/dev/zero of=zero bs=1M count=100 17:37:07 `` ulimit -f 17:37:08 10240 17:37:20 `` echo $USER 17:37:22 No output. 17:37:27 `` whoami 17:37:29 whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 17:37:45 `` ulimit -a 17:37:47 core file size (blocks, -c) 0 \ data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited \ scheduling priority (-e) 0 \ file size (blocks, -f) 10240 \ pending signals (-i) 1955 \ max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 0 \ max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited \ open files (-n) 102 17:38:18 `` ulimit -a | sed 1,/open/d 17:38:20 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 \ POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 \ real-time priority (-r) 0 \ stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 \ cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited \ max user processes (-u) 128 \ virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited \ file locks (-x) 17:39:29 `` ls /proc 17:39:32 1 \ 10 \ 2 \ 281 \ 285 \ 286 \ 287 \ 288 \ 289 \ 290 \ 291 \ 292 \ 293 \ 294 \ 295 \ 296 \ 3 \ 4 \ 47 \ 49 \ 5 \ 51 \ 6 \ 68 \ 7 \ 76 \ 77 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms 17:39:44 `` ls /proc/!([0-9]*) 17:39:46 ​/proc/buddyinfo \ /proc/cgroups \ /proc/cmdline \ /proc/config.gz \ /proc/consoles \ /proc/cpuinfo \ /proc/crypto \ /proc/devices \ /proc/diskstats \ /proc/execdomains \ /proc/exitcode \ /proc/filesystems \ /proc/interrupts \ /proc/iomem \ /proc/ioports \ /proc/kallsyms \ /proc/kcore \ /proc/kmsg \ /proc/kpagecount \ /proc/kpageflags \ /proc/loa 17:40:01 `` ls /proc/!([0-9]*) | sed 1,/kpageflags/d 17:40:03 ​/proc/loadavg \ /proc/locks \ /proc/meminfo \ /proc/misc \ /proc/mounts \ /proc/pagetypeinfo \ /proc/partitions \ /proc/slabinfo \ /proc/softirqs \ /proc/stat \ /proc/sysemu \ /proc/sysrq-trigger \ /proc/timer_list \ /proc/uptime \ /proc/version \ /proc/vmallocinfo \ /proc/vmstat \ /proc/zoneinfo \ \ /proc/bus: \ \ /proc/driver: \ \ /proc/fs: 17:40:14 `` ls -d /proc/!([0-9]*) | sed 1,/kpageflags/d 17:40:16 ​/proc/loadavg \ /proc/locks \ /proc/meminfo \ /proc/misc \ /proc/mounts \ /proc/net \ /proc/pagetypeinfo \ /proc/partitions \ /proc/self \ /proc/slabinfo \ /proc/softirqs \ /proc/stat \ /proc/sys \ /proc/sysemu \ /proc/sysrq-trigger \ /proc/sysvipc \ /proc/timer_list \ /proc/tty \ /proc/uptime \ /proc/version \ /proc/vmallocinfo \ /proc/vmstat \ 17:42:23 `` rm x 17:42:26 rm: cannot remove `x': No such file or directory 17:42:26 `` rm zero 17:42:31 No output. 17:47:53 -!- hwpplayer11 has joined. 17:48:15 -!- hwpplayer1 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:48:17 -!- hwpplayer11 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 17:50:05 -!- hwpplayer1 has joined. 17:51:10 -!- moon_ has changed nick to moonythehuman. 17:51:21 -!- moonythehuman has changed nick to MoonyTheDwarf. 17:55:10 `` hostname 17:55:11 umlbox 17:55:36 `` grep data /proc/iomap 17:55:38 grep: /proc/iomap: No such file or directory 17:55:54 uml doesn't have iomap? 17:56:03 `` ls /dev/mem 17:56:05 ​/dev/mem 17:56:12 `` ls /dev/{,k}mem 17:56:14 ​/dev/kmem \ /dev/mem 17:57:54 `` paste /proc/config.gz 17:58:06 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.11642 17:58:23 that didn't work 17:58:45 `` gunzip < /proc/config.gz > out; paste out 17:58:53 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/out 18:06:22 `` echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger; echo alive 18:06:24 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: /proc/sysrq-trigger: Permission denied \ alive 18:10:06 `` cat /proc/1/cmdline 18:10:08 ​/init. 18:13:21 i've never used usermode linux and i don't feel like compiling a kernel right now 18:13:35 who provides /proc and /dev ? 18:13:48 the actual kernel or uml? 18:16:53 uml 18:17:31 It is a significant part of the linux kernel after all... 18:18:32 `paste /proc/mounts 18:18:38 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.26852 18:19:27 as you can see there, there's a 'hostfs' fs type for interaction. there's also a character device, hmmm 18:19:31 `paste /proc/devices 18:19:37 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.29080 18:20:01 the ubd thing... oh it's a block device, my bad. 18:23:14 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:24:36 izabera: Welcome to the Gamemanj Kernel Compile Service! Provides mostly normal kernels, with only 28.8% NSA-approved code! 18:24:41 ... 18:25:08 that's not even bad 18:25:31 * gamemanj receives a call 18:25:36 ... 18:25:46 Ok, up that number to 100%, they're replacing the entire source tree. 18:25:50 `? nsa 18:25:52 nsa? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:26:39 They already started stalking people over windows 10 (Microsoft proudly proclaimed that too, just worded diffrent)] 18:27:40 did I mention http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2016/06/09/0793-an-offer-you-cant-refuse-ww/ 18:28:59 i like the cyanide&happiness more 18:29:04 MoonyTheDwarf: And oddly enough... 18:29:09 MoonyTheDwarf: I'm not surprised. 18:30:28 Hmm, "Where do you want to go today?" used to be an MS slogan. Now they've stopped asking that question... 18:32:01 That's because they replaced it 18:32:08 "Where do we want you to go today?" 18:32:53 -!- iaglium has joined. 18:45:50 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:46:31 hi hppavilion[1] 18:47:06 MoonyTheDwarf: CHOOSE. A CONSISTENT. NICK. 18:47:20 -!- MoonyTheDwarf has changed nick to moon_. 18:47:23 sorry 18:47:26 chill down 18:47:27 i forgot to switch 18:47:47 i am tempted to change my nick just du annoy you 18:48:03 to even 18:48:19 -!- moon_ has changed nick to moonyeatspeople. 18:51:10 -!- moonyeatspeople has changed nick to hppavillion_poke. 18:59:36 hppavillion_poke: You can choose any non-confusing nick you want as long as you keep it consistent and make backup nicks clearly reflect the base nick 19:09:03 Hm, evolutionarily speaking, males and females are in competition in many cases 19:09:10 Which I imagine is why the female eats her mate 19:09:53 If the mate is good, then her offspring will be good. It's in her best interests to make sure the male doesn't reproduce further, creating good offspring that don't belong to her. 19:10:52 why would the male want to mate if they're going to die 19:10:54 hppavillion_poke: fun fact: hppavilion[1]_ has the same color in weechat as hppavilion[1] 19:11:00 gamemanj: because mating 19:11:14 have you ever seen futurama? 19:11:27 gamemanj: Because if they don't mate then their genes stop with them 19:11:30 zoidberg's home planet etc 19:11:53 what about mating followed by not dying 19:11:57 gamemanj: The ones that decide it's worth it are the only ones who have babies 19:12:06 gamemanj: Well that's where the competition comes in 19:12:10 gamemanj: inconceivable 19:12:24 gamemanj: It's ideal for the males to mate without dying, but it's ideal for the females to be the only mate of the male 19:12:44 ...flipping yanderes. 19:17:59 -!- hppavillion_poke has changed nick to moon_. 19:21:20 -!- lambda-11235 has quit (Quit: Bye). 19:22:20 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 19:30:11 -!- yorick_ has joined. 19:32:11 -!- yorick has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:36:01 -!- hwpplayer1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:37:44 -!- hwpplayer1 has joined. 19:37:50 -!- hwpplayer1 has left. 19:41:44 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:42:31 `` paste /proc/iomem 19:42:48 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.21164 19:43:20 -!- tromp has joined. 19:43:29 `` cat /proc/iomem 19:43:31 No output. 19:43:34 -_- 19:45:12 -!- deltab_ has joined. 19:46:16 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Quit: leaving). 19:48:29 -!- IRIXUser has joined. 19:48:30 -!- Tiktailk has joined. 19:48:54 -!- IRIXUser has changed nick to Guest12690. 19:50:07 -!- tromp_ has quit (*.net *.split). 19:50:07 -!- deltab has quit (*.net *.split). 19:50:07 -!- j-bot has quit (*.net *.split). 19:50:07 -!- fungot has quit (*.net *.split). 19:50:07 -!- Tiktalik has quit (*.net *.split). 19:50:07 -!- JX7P has quit (*.net *.split). 19:51:54 -!- bauen1 has joined. 19:56:43 <^v> ive been working on a high level language that compiles to brainfuck if anyone is interested, https://github.com/P-T-/bftoast 19:57:41 <^v> by the end of the week i think ill have basic programs compiled (only inline functions) 19:58:28 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 19:58:54 <^v> and later ill have recursive functions, yieldable tasks, and a few complex types 20:00:06 <^v> after version 1.0 ill work on namespaces, structs, OO classes, and more advanced task functions 20:07:18 very nice 20:09:59 -!- hwpplayer1 has joined. 20:16:34 MSORPG 20:16:43 (Massively Singleplayer Offline Role-Playing Games) 20:16:55 ^ (aka RPGs) 20:17:52 gamemanj: But those aren't massively singleplayer; they're just singleplayer 20:18:00 then what's massively singleplayer 20:18:12 What's the most absurd game genre acronym available? 20:19:08 MMOTD? 20:19:15 MMOTDRPG? 20:19:17 "Dynamically Attacking New Game Objectives"? 20:19:18 Wait, that's probably a thing 20:19:32 gamemanj: No, I'm going for genre names 20:20:04 gamemanj: Also, replace "Dynamically" with "Radically" and you've got a book deal and the funding of several major corporations 20:20:14 RANGO 20:20:17 hmph 20:20:40 DANGO is nicer! Dango, dango, dango, dango, dango daik--*Interrupted during run by length limit.* 20:20:44 <^v> massively singleplayer 20:20:49 MMOPG? 20:20:50 <^v> so like no mans sky? 20:20:54 (PG = Programming Game) 20:21:13 MMO Puzzle 20:21:16 <^v> technically a multiplayer game but you are so far away it might aswell be singleplayer? 20:21:35 (I guess curiosity would be kind of a casual MMO puzzle?) 20:21:44 "Jumping Around Silly Puzzles, and Editing Registry" 20:22:13 Hahahahahahahaha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_video_game is a real thing 20:22:44 <^v> AVGN bible games? 20:22:58 MMOFPS 20:23:03 Whoops 20:23:06 MMOFSM 20:23:16 Massively Multiplayer Online Finite State Machine 20:23:28 hppavilion[1]: I will not fall for your tricks! I know you inserted zero-width-spaces to take me to a rickroll page... uh, right? Actually, I'm not sure. Are those my indicator for ZWSes or just dust on the... nvm. They're just dust on the screen. 20:23:51 Glld mlb 20:23:54 *Good job 20:24:00 -!- Kaynato has joined. 20:24:21 gamemanj: How would ZWSes even rickroll you there? 20:24:24 are there MMOPGs? 20:24:33 Besides, I would most certainly duckroll you rather than rickroll 20:24:38 myname: For what definition of PG? 20:24:46 hppavilion[1]: the domain name 20:24:51 programming game 20:24:56 gamemanj: That doesn't sound possible 20:25:03 hppavilion[1]: It probably isn't 20:25:06 gamemanj: that doesn't make sense 20:25:13 myname: I think there's one called codespells that is basically a wizardy game with actually code 20:25:15 myname: It probably doesn't 20:25:18 *actual 20:25:21 But... it's fun to describe. 20:25:23 You cast spells with code 20:25:40 gamemanj: It's certainly pseudo-possible; probably not here, but it /could have been/ 20:26:28 * gamemanj messes around... "en.wikipediෝ.org"... eh, close enough 20:26:46 MMOMUD 20:26:53 Oh wait, that's just a MUD with too many players 20:27:10 MMOTS 20:27:20 Train simulator + FPS 20:27:21 MMOTD? 20:27:35 MMOTSes are awesome 20:27:42 openttdcoop is fun 20:40:03 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * MeowflashDaProgrammer * New user account 20:50:02 hppavilion[1]: first person train simulator 1887. Now includes simulation of diseases that affect breathing! 20:50:36 (The special edition package contains an additional lump of coal.) 20:50:45 (It's generally sold at Christmas.) 20:51:24 Hm, it looks like John 3:16 in phrased radically differently in the SAB translation 20:55:15 -!- Froox has joined. 20:59:15 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:01:41 -!- Froox has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 21:01:59 -!- Frooxius has joined. 21:12:42 -!- erdic has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 21:13:27 -!- erdic has joined. 21:23:57 -!- Koen_ has joined. 21:24:16 It's the current year, so why are things I don't like still around? 21:27:45 <^v> new brainfuck derivative: yiffFuck 21:28:38 -!- deltab_ has changed nick to deltab. 21:29:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:33:44 <^v> no 21:33:44 <^v> That is a stupid idea and you should be neutered 21:46:31 -!- variable has joined. 21:49:52 ^v: the consensus is "no more brainfuck derivatives" 21:51:20 at least not if it is not interesting 21:51:31 which is pretty unlikely for a bf derivate 21:54:16 <^v> i have a goal of atleast 20 generic boring bf derivatives by the end of the month 21:54:35 <^v> each with absolutely no interpreter and misleading / nonfunctional example code 21:54:45 <^v> i will make esolangs great again 21:55:00 <^v> by blocking out the infirior complex well thought out languages 21:55:11 <^v> #MAKE_ESOLANGS_GREAT_AGAIN 21:56:34 new game: hit the "random page" button on the esolangs wiki 21:56:42 you win if you do not hit a brainfuck derivative 21:57:10 or feature request: "random non-bf page" 21:57:17 (I lied, it's not new) 21:57:22 oh, that would be a good one 21:57:58 from the newer languages, efghij is my absolute favorite 21:58:07 https://archive.org/details/pocorgtfo12 has translating arbitrary C programs to bytecode that can be executed without branches, by the way of x86 mov 21:58:17 article number 5 21:58:34 there is a github repo for movfuscating 21:58:50 -!- gamemanj has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 22:04:35 -!- Koen_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:05:01 -!- Koen_ has joined. 22:06:58 <^v> making branchless code is not a new concept 22:07:23 <^v> but the difficulty depends on the language 22:10:35 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 22:17:15 koen: I wanted to play this game. i lost. 22:18:11 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:18:43 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:31:55 -!- jaboja has joined. 22:33:32 -!- boily has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:34:48 -!- Tounz has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 23:15:19 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:23:46 @tell izabera `` gunzip < /proc/config.gz > out; paste out <-- paste can be piped into hth 23:23:46 Consider it noted. 23:33:28 <\oren\> hmmm I was thinking about heapsort 23:35:40 <\oren\> ooh Scholar Refia has zettai ryouki 23:37:40 -!- augur has joined. 23:44:43 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:44:44 -!- variable has quit (Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero). 23:46:25 oerjan: I thought about suggesting that... but we get a commit either way... 23:47:00 `` echo bin/z* 23:47:09 bin/zalgo bin/zalgoerjan bin/zalgoverload bin/zalgreet bin/zzote 23:49:20 int-e: yeah but we don't mess up the top directory