< 1466467239 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: WINDY CHICKEN < 1466467516 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1466468255 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.149.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466469514 0 :iaglium!~i@2601:344:4000:9b3a:f888:bc34:736c:136c QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1466469924 0 :iaglium!~i@2601:344:4000:9b3a:f888:bc34:736c:136c JOIN :#esoteric < 1466470289 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466470803 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466471461 0 :moon___!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466472226 0 :moon___!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1466472650 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466473386 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.149.129 QUIT :Quit: Gotta go < 1466473456 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Hope you like dark and malty. You're getting 24floz of barleywine and stout for a grand total of 2.94floz of alcohol. < 1466473456 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1466473545 0 :iaglium!~i@2601:344:4000:9b3a:f888:bc34:736c:136c QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1466476304 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.149.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466476378 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466478613 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c000:181b:56a:ccc3:c941:e627 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466479809 0 :augur_!~augur@c-73-15-30-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466479836 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:c000:181b:56a:ccc3:c941:e627 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1466480570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1466482457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hoag wisdom/tanebvention | tac < 1466482461 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ mv wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebvention \ revert 3 \ revert 87c64ef250a0 \ mv wisdom/tanebvention{s,} \ cp wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebvention \ sed -i \'s/torus,/torus, Stephen Wolfram,/\' wisdom/tanebvention \ sed -i \'s/modules/&, Chu spaces/\' wisdom/tanebvention \ learn Tanebventions include D-modules and automatic squirrel feeders \ mv wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebvention \ learn Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go \ mv wisdom/tanebvention{s,} \ learn Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, and G < 1466482479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, Taneb invented Tanebventions? < 1466482492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of assumed it was oerjan or something. < 1466482568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1466482569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1466482592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebvention//s#p#Tanebventions, p# < 1466482596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1466482698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sled < 1466482698 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1466482699 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } < 1466482812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I was going to make a version of sled that doesn't write out the file, for testing in /msg, but it's too much of a hassle. < 1466484387 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1466486004 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.149.129 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1466486368 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://petrl.org/ < 1466487768 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iml.univ-mrs.fr/~girard/mustard/article.html < 1466489418 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.149.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466490210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466490213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - freenode runs an open proxy scanner. Please join #freenode for < 1466490214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - any network-related questions or queries, where a number of < 1466490214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - volunteer staff and helpful users will be happy to assist you. < 1466490214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - < 1466490215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - You can meet us at FOSSCON (http://www.fosscon.org) where we get < 1466490217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - together with like-minded FOSS enthusiasts for talks and < 1466490219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1466490225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an ISO standard for controlling death rays? < 1466491382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe USB would work? < 1466491385 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or SCSI < 1466491433 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIDI. < 1466491893 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1466492155 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :death (metal) ray < 1466492352 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.243.149.129 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1466492596 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1466492798 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow there's already a hd-ts torrent of finding dory < 1466493741 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own new kind of computer design is it is also with MIDI (not only for music). < 1466493944 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Somebody's getting fired. < 1466494001 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry for them *eats popcorn watching finding dory* < 1466494851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, are there any chat applications that actually employ demotivation tunnels? < 1466494982 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466494990 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiii < 1466494992 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1466495010 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :╔═╦╗╔═╦╗ ╔═════╦╗ ╔═╦╗ ╔═╦╗ ╔═════╦╗ < 1466495017 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :║ ║║║ ║║ ║ ╔═══╩╝ ║ ║║ ║ ║║ ║ ╔═╗ ║║ < 1466495023 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :║ ╚╩╝ ║║ ║ ╚═══╦╗ ║ ║║ ║ ║║ ║ ║ ║ ║║ < 1466495029 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :║ ╔╦╗ ║║ ║ ╔═══╩╝ ║ ║║ ║ ║║ ║ ║ ║ ║║ < 1466495036 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :║ ║║║ ║║ ║ ╚═══╦╗ ║ ╚╩══╦╗ ║ ╚╩══╦╗ ║ ╚═╝ ║║ < 1466495042 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :╚═╩╝╚═╩╝ ╚═════╩╝ ╚═════╩╝ ╚═════╩╝ ╚═════╩╝ < 1466495072 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ___ ___ _______ __ __ _______ / /__/ // ____// / / / / ___ /| / __ // ____// /____ / /____ / /__/ / / /___/|/__//______//______//______//______/ / __ |___|/|__||______||______||______||______|/ < 1466495076 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1466495082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't spam the channel. < 1466495098 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed empty < 1466495102 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1466495117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is worse than silence. < 1466495132 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1466495139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thou shalt not spam < 1466495141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, so is that "anyone here?" thing you always do. < 1466495159 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1466495162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destructible: Also, it wasn't empty, it's just that no one said anything in the 9 seconds after you joined < 1466495169 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1466495170 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1466495194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said something a couple minutes ago and a response would have come through shortly after I assume < 1466495202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do you know of any such chat application? < 1466495210 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to go now < 1466495214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any what? < 1466495214 0 :Destructible!8bd8a393@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.216.163.147 QUIT :Client Quit < 1466495318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Chat applications employing demotivational tunnels as the primary interface, but in a streamlined fashion < 1466495359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what those are. < 1466495664 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : ___ ___ _______ __ __ _______ / /__/ // ____// / / / / ___ /| / __ // ____// /____ / /____ / /__/ / / /___/|/__//______//______//______//______/ / __ |___|/|__||______||______||______||______|/ < 1466495669 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that supposed to be? < 1466495765 0 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable061.22-57-74.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1466495834 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i rearranged it and this came up < 1466495838 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : ___ ___ _______ __ __ _______ < 1466495840 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : / /__/ // ____// / / / / ___ /| < 1466495842 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : / __ // ____// /____ / /____ / /__/ / / < 1466495844 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :/___/|/__//______//______//______//______/ / < 1466495846 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :|___|/|__||______||______||______||______|/ < 1466496911 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1466496915 0 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable061.22-57-74.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1466497165 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1466497462 0 :augur_!~augur@c-73-15-30-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466498563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: spam is bad, unless properly cooked < 1466498565 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1466498565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1466498612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pseudo < 1466498613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pseudo: not found < 1466498635 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how those self extracting zip archives work? < 1466498654 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my understanding there's a program and then they append the archive at the end of it < 1466498658 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they do that? < 1466498669 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they must store the offset of the archive somewhere < 1466498775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have there been any terrorist attacks recently enough that it'd be insensitive to make a 'fork bomb' joke? < 1466498824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always terrorists attacking somewhere. < 1466498831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Well yeah < 1466498836 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: But any high-profile ones? < 1466498950 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they put some kind of marker and the program scans itself to find it < 1466498950 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's probably a fixed offset and they compute it once per architecture and then reuse the same executable and recompute it when they recompile to update their program < 1466499100 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For ZIP archives I think it is a marker. < 1466499127 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you append a ZIP archive to a PNG picture, a program that reads PNG or ZIP will be able to read the corresponding part just fine (I have tried this). < 1466499190 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there a string that will never be part of an elf or pe file? < 1466499203 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that can be used as a marker < 1466499229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That is impossible I think, but the program could be written to avoid it so that the marker can be found. < 1466499261 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that require some major hacking in the compiler? < 1466499382 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making a program called Xwicketset it is another C library that goes over Xlib to provide many additional functions including widgets. For example to deal with resources there are functions XwicGetResource, XwicGetLeafResource, XwicGetStringResource. The most complicated function so far is XwicCreateMainWindow, which is more than fifty lines long, and uses some of the other functions. < 1466499735 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1466500114 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made any programming with X window system before? < 1466500153 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all in wayland < 1466500190 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think X is better though; I don't like Wayland < 1466500511 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem Canonical does not like Wayland either so they invented Mir. I don't like either of those and believe X11 should be replaced by X12 instead (I have written many ideas about how X version 12 could be made up). < 1466500540 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just wanted to be unique < 1466501082 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should just make a version of X that removes all the parts that noone uses < 1466501183 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would break compatibility with lots of very old X programs, but people who want to use those can use the old version of X < 1466501234 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would solve the problem of "X is bloated" without creating the problem of "now we're running both wayland and X" < 1466501291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things I would remove from X include such thing as GLX, Xcursor, and several other extensions, as well as the protocol requests for setting the font path and screen saver controls (and use separate methods of setting these things). < 1466501431 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1466501515 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My method would be to implement a proxy to convert between X11 and X12 requests for the cases where the program is not modified to work natively, as well as to implement a proxy for doing security features. < 1466501540 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: At least zip files have the directory part at the end of the file. < 1466501633 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that's smart, put the metadata at the end < 1466501770 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see this in action in unzip's I-don't-know-this-file error: "End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive." < 1466501962 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-extracting rars go with the marker approach -- unarchivers skip any leading bytes that precede the first occurrence of an 8-byte signature ("Rar!\x1a\x07\x01\x00"), failing if that signature is not found within the first megabyte. < 1466502046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Rar! < 1466502186 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't that generally true for ZIP files as well? < 1466502222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is? < 1466502234 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :markers-in-anywhere approach, that is < 1466502236 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't that sort of what happens with X11 clients over wayland, or X11 clients over windows? < 1466502246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, that reminds me, I have a question about X11 < 1466502278 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I don't think so. < 1466502334 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think ZIP appended to other binaries can work without central records at the very end of file for that reason < 1466502410 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tools that correctly read .ZIP archives must scan for the end of central directory record signature, and then, as appropriate, the other, indicated, central directory records. They must not scan for entries from the top of the ZIP file, because only the central directory specifies where a file chunk starts. Scanning could lead to false positives, as the format does not forbid other data to be ... < 1466502416 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :... between chunks, nor file data streams from containing such signatures." < 1466502418 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess so, then. < 1466502421 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what's wrong with both wayland and X? it took a few decades, but now people really run entire linux computers with no termcap support (neither the library-level compatibility layer nor the actual TERMCAP env var for statically linked programs), without a.out (ancient-libc) support, and even without x86_32 libc support. < 1466502450 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think that's necessary for the self-extracting functionality, since the directory *is* at the end. < 1466502459 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably run X11 forever, but the sort of people with their fancy "desktop environments" will probably be running all-wayland in a decade. < 1466502508 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programs such as Xaw could be ported to X12 however. < 1466502610 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: anyway, some people try to claim that traditional X11 is "unsecure" because any program with access to the display can steal the images and keyboard input and whatnot from all other windows; and they try to show their fancy modified X11 server or proxy or whatever it is showing that the same exploit doesn't work there. But I don't believe what they say: < 1466502626 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would rather to design and then switch to X12, and failing that use X11. < 1466502684 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If those people want these crazy transparent borderless menu overlay windows that they already use in X11, then how could a user ever be sure which window is where and which window they're typing to? They might not even know where the mouse cursor is. I just don't understand how any such system could be secure, < 1466502738 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :short of having a trusted vnc server whose head is shown entirely in a window that can't capture the mouse or keyboard events and has a distinctive border and can't draw outside, which IS what I want for this kind of security, but it doesn't appear to be what they're after. < 1466502749 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does what these people say against traditional X11 even make sense? < 1466502781 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also they try to sell this as if it was some sort of sensational new exploit, but whatever.) < 1466502818 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be better to use different screens for different security contexts when it is necessary to do so probably. Although a X proxy could be made to do what you say. X11 is not designed for this but could be done; X12 has some things that would make such a proxy less messy. < 1466502881 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, exactly. I'd like to run three local X servers this way, and I hope I can show the contents of one in a window of another in a way that's cheaper than vnc through a PF_UNIX socket, but I don't have my hopes high. < 1466502896 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Three, becase one for sane stuff, one for web browser on untrusted websites, one for skype.) < 1466502982 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could also change the border colours to indicate if the inner security context is active, so that you can detect the keyboard logging and stuff like that. (This way would allow it to work even if the programs are running on different computers.) < 1466503075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok < 1466503145 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, one thing that makes this sort of thing expensive is that the clients to the restricted X server aren't allowed to know even about paint events or which part of their window is visible, so they must keep rendering the video even when it's actually covered on my screen entirely < 1466503217 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By setting the permission of different connections in the UNIX system, there can be the security between the different security contexts. For example implement a kind of "securex" command perhaps, that will set the DISPLAY variable and then run the program so that it cannot access the main X server connection. < 1466503241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I think about it... wizards being willing to eat all of the weird candy that there is in Harry Potter makes them seem either fetishistic or sociopathic < 1466503651 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1466503729 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, I can already make it so that a program can't access the main X server connection. < 1466503743 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: run it as a different user, don't tell Xauthority to that user < 1466503768 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the default with mutliple users, I have to give Xauthority explicitly < 1466503784 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the Xauth command < 1466503969 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, new version of my font! < 1466503971 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❶❷❸❹❺❻❼❽❾❿①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧⑨⑩⑪⑫⑬⑭⑮⑯⑰⑱⑲⑳⑴⑵⑶⑷⑸⑹⑺⑻⑼⑽⑾⑿⒀⒁⒂⒃⒄⒅⒆⒇⒈⒉⒊⒋⒌⒍ < 1466503974 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⒎⒏⒐⒑⒒⒓⒔⒕⒖⒗⒘⒙⒚⒛⒜⒝⒞⒟⒠⒡⒢⒣⒤⒥⒦⒧⒨⒩⒪⒫⒬⒭⒮⒯⒰⒱⒲⒳⒴⒵ⒶⒷⒸⒹⒺⒻⒼⒽⒾⒿⓀⓁⓂⓃⓄⓅⓆⓇⓈⓉⓊⓋⓌⓍ < 1466503978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ⓎⓏⓐⓑⓒⓓⓔⓕⓖⓗⓘⓙⓚⓛⓜⓝⓞⓟⓠⓡⓢⓣⓤⓥⓦⓧⓨⓩ⓪⓫⓬⓭⓮⓯⓰⓱⓲⓳⓴⓵⓶⓷⓸⓹⓺⓻⓼⓽⓾⓿ < 1466503986 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of those are now supported < 1466504119 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do these character even exist < 1466504148 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ⒜ better than (a)? < 1466504155 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably the fault of the Japanese < 1466504162 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1466504166 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did they do? < 1466504195 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had a huge character set to fill and they made up useless crap to fill it with < 1466504217 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they _have_ to fill it? < 1466504225 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1466504234 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's their fault < 1466504239 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastards < 1466504248 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr < 1466504285 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, now I have like 50 new characters < 1466504293 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cbselementary.wikia.com/wiki/Oren_Watson < 1466504369 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no relation to that character < 1466504371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1466504374 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1466504382 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1466504392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah, it even has a few totally made up kanji of which nobody knows the meaning or etymology or pronunciation < 1466504511 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the last line of the math special characters red? < 1466504527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those characters don't actually exist < 1466504543 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the unicode standard) < 1466504555 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ts complicated < 1466504587 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see much difference between the red chars and their white counterparts < 1466504587 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 𝔄𝔅ℭ < 1466504591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1D504 MATHEMATICAL FRAKTUR CAPITAL A \ UTF-8: f0 9d 94 84 UTF-16BE: d835dd04 Decimal: 𝔄 \ 𝔄 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 0041 \ \ U+1D505 MATHEMATICAL FRAKTUR CAPITAL B \ UTF-8: f0 9d 94 85 UTF-16BE: d835dd05 Decimal: 𝔅 \ 𝔅 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi < 1466504597 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ℭ < 1466504599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+212D BLACK-LETTER CAPITAL C \ UTF-8: e2 84 ad UTF-16BE: 212d Decimal: ℭ \ ℭ \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 0043 < 1466504618 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 𝔆 < 1466504619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1D506 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9d 94 86 UTF-16BE: d835dd06 Decimal: 𝔆 \ 𝔆 (𝔆) \ Uppercase: U+1D506 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1466504630 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1466504675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they left gaps in the math alphabets for the characters that had already been made elsewhere < 1466504726 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why does your fontdemo.htm has no html title? < 1466504746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :please add one < 1466504751 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1466504797 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah great, now the font does show up! I think I know which client setting I messed up int he browser. < 1466504826 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, snake fillers as in the XKCD strip, is that new? < 1466504843 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as new as the other stuff but yes < 1466504976 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hmm, since you added extra characters for the Verne futhark inscription, maybe you should add the inscription as one of the samples < 1466504977 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466504985 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to show how those characters are to be used < 1466505027 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1466505115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still think that third character form the Commodore 64 extensions is just a black club card suit symbol, not an extension, since the character set has symbols for the other three suits. < 1466505161 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a weird looking club suit with a hole in the middle... < 1466505294 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1466505321 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren: it's this style of the club suit symbol in low res: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Atlas_deck_4_of_clubs.svg < 1466505328 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the most common variant, but I don't think it's weird < 1466505420 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German, the suit of clubs is called by the word for “cross”. < 1466505521 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1466505530 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: is the snake filler extension missing from the character listing in the demo page? < 1466505627 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. uh... you saw nothing! < 1466505715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: also, aren't these "Powerline" thingy characters new enough to be yellow? < 1466505756 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really I think I added them a few months ago < 1466505761 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1466506094 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Btw re X server, does Xnest not do what you want? < 1466508401 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I don't know what Xnest is < 1466508800 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xnest is a program which acts as an X client to an ordinary X server, and as an X server to its own clients. An X nested inside X. I’m not sure in how far it might fulfil your security stipulations though. < 1466508864 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I see, I'll have to examine that < 1466508883 0 :SLiV!d4eea4fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.238.164.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466508911 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I knew there were some two other headless X servers apart from vnc derivatives (and there's too many versions of vnc stuff really), but one of them is Xvfb which is truly blind in that you can't view the display at all, < 1466508919 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't recall the other. < 1466508942 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that the truly blind one is still useful for some stupid scripts that need to access X but don't actually need user input or output. < 1466508955 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xnest is not headless, if I understand that term properly: It creates a window which acts as the root window of the nested X server. < 1466508956 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for eg. some automated testing. < 1466508961 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: right < 1466508971 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to remember that name and read about it. < 1466509024 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466509113 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1466509131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1466509134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cinder Pyromancer \ 2R \ Creature -- Elemental Shaman \ 0/1 \ {T}: Cinder Pyromancer deals 1 damage to target player. \ Whenever you cast a red spell, you may untap Cinder Pyromancer. \ EVE-C, PD2-C < 1466509135 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1466509136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fires of Yavimaya \ 1RG \ Enchantment \ Creatures you control have haste. \ Sacrifice Fires of Yavimaya: Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. \ IN-U, HOP-U, ARC-U, PC2-U, C13-U, CNS-U, VMA-U, DDL-U < 1466509190 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: you can peek at the Xvfb framebuffer by adding a -fbdir argument. (It will make one xwd file there for each screen, and then mmap the framebuffer memory from there.) < 1466509277 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1466509283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the other Xnest-like thing is called Xephyr. < 1466509298 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice, thanks for both of those info < 1466509303 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably promptly forget that < 1466509306 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it mostly does more modern X extensions than Xnest, or some-such.) < 1466509317 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should make a list in some wisdom entry or something < 1466509352 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Think Xnest but with support for modern extensions like composite, damage and randr.” says man Xephyr. < 1466509392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: ok, I'll have to check both of those then < 1466509484 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes on to explain that Xnest is a proxy limited to the capabilities of the host server, whereas Xephyr does its own processing and merely draws an image for the host server. < 1466509550 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there were also plans for a "xf86-video-nested" video driver to run a "regular" X server using a X window as the video output, but that seems to have gone nowhere. < 1466509581 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.8/ "TODO -- These have been discussed, but are not yet integrated to the source repos, and may or may not happen -- Replace Xephyr, Xvfb, Xnest, Xfake, etc. with Xorg using xf86-video-dummy and xf86-video-nested". < 1466509589 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: meh, when a software documentation says "this software is like foo but better" then I NEVER believe anything it says about foo, because it usually compares itself with some ancient version of foo and the docs is never updated to tell that foo is already better and knows all that's listed there. < 1466509626 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in the case of an old X11 utility, there's less chance for this, I'll still have to examine Xnest on its own first, rather than trying to gleam information about it from the Xephyr docs. < 1466509844 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man Xnest suggests to me that it is in fact a thinner proxy than Xephyr, at any rate. Less like Xephyr is better than it serves a different purpose. < 1466509936 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: thanks < 1466510064 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I might be wrong since I’m not sure what the respective purposes are supposed to be. < 1466510215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/verne.htm < 1466510311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still working on it < 1466510362 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What is the first part? < 1466510543 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encrypted version from the book < 1466510552 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18857/18857-h/18857-h.htm#CHAPTER_3 < 1466510653 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. It’s been so long since I read the book that I didn’t remember it was encrypted … also then does it make sense to display the decrypted version in runes? < 1466510821 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1466511228 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1466511228 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 211100Z 27010G16KT 30SM FEW180 FEW240 19/09 A2973 RMK AC1CI1 AC TR CI TR SLP070 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1466511251 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads.
< 1466511253 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1466511261 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it does. < 1466511313 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused about the correspondence for a bit due to a single rune being transcribed as “mm”. < 1466511793 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MARINATED CHICKEN < 1466511831 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᛉᛘ < 1466511832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+16C9 RUNIC LETTER ALGIZ EOLHX] [U+16D8 RUNIC LETTER LONG-BRANCH-MADR M] < 1466511865 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It kinda looks like you used the former of these two, where the latter was meant. ↑ < 1466511927 0 :SLiV!d4eea4fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.238.164.250 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1466511941 0 :SLiV!d4eea4fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.238.164.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466512128 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: yes, it does make sense to display the decrypted version in runes, < 1466512205 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: except that there are two or three typos that are in the encrypted rune version but NOT in the encrypted latin script version, and so those typos are certainly made by Verne, not by Professor Lindenbrock or Axel (who couldn't magically undo the typos before knowing the decryption). < 1466512272 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/ᛁ* < 1466512273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1466512298 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` < wisdom/ᛁ* perl -e 'local$/;print substr,300' < 1466512299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​›á›¦á›… ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1466512327 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar, \oren\ ^^^ that's the decrypted inscription with the two typos that perhaps shoudln't be there, and possibly errors I myself introduced < 1466512352 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are lots of runes of which I'm not sure of the unicode encoding, see the details back in the channel logs < 1466512496 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466512565 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466512660 0 :Koen___!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466512734 0 :Koen___!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466512767 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466512868 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1466512877 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there’s the matter of that double-m bind rune. Perhaps it should be MAÐR + ZWJ + MAÐR. < 1466512930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1466512940 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or did HackEgo output mojibake? < 1466512959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I don't think so. futhark runes (as opposed to old hungarian runes) don't usually have ligatures, the MM rune is a new separate character on its own right < 1466513037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah no clog < 1466513075 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: sorry, I did a substr such that it cut in the middle of a character in the utf8 < 1466513075 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466513078 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: let me try again < 1466513086 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` < wisdom/ᛁ* perl -e 'local$/;print substr,299' < 1466513088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿgᛅᛋ. ᚴᚮᚦ ᚠᛅᚴᛁ. ᛆᛦᚿᛅ ᛋᛆᚴᚿᚢᛋᛋᛅᛯ < 1466513094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: is that betteR? < 1466513108 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the second half of the inscription, the first half should be fine above < 1466513115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` < wisdom/ᛁ* # first half < 1466513116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1466513118 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1466513121 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Except I don’t know why the g is in there. < 1466513122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/ᛁ* # first half < 1466513123 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᛁᚿ ᛋᚿᛅᚠᚠᛚᛚᛋ ᛁᚮᚴᚢᛚᛁᛋ ᚴᛦᛆᛏᛅᛦᛅᛘ ᚴᛅᛘ ᚦᛅᛚᛁᛒᛆᛏ ᚢᛘᛒᛦᛆ ᛋᚴᛆᛦᛏᛆᛦᛁᛋ ᛁᚢᛚᛁᛁ ᛁᚿᛏᛦᛆ ᚴᛆᛚᛅᚿᚦᛆᛋ ᚦᛅᛋᚴᛅᚿᚦᛅ, ᛆᚢᚦᛆᛋ ᚢᛁᛆᛏᚮᛦ, ᛏᛅ ᛏᛅᛦᛦᛅᛋᛏᛦᛅ ᚴᛅᚿᛏᛦᚢᛘ ᛆᛏᛏᛁᚿg < 1466513140 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: the g is there because I didn't know how to encode it in unicode < 1466513163 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I also don't know how to encode the "d" rune, but I used the "th" rune which is at least superficially similar and possibly related to it < 1466513185 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“They are extremely rare in Viking Age inscriptions, but are common in earlier (Proto-Norse) and later (medieval) inscriptions.” — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bind_rune < 1466513218 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I see < 1466513227 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: but still, the text explicitly calls out for a double-m rune < 1466513228 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find it < 1466513235 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's also in the channel log) < 1466513353 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᛯ < 1466513354 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+16EF RUNIC TVIMADUR SYMBOL] < 1466513356 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Voyage_au_centre_de_la_Terre/Chapitre_3 "En effet, la première lettre est une double M qu’on chercherait vainement dans le livre de Turleson [the book in which the parchment with the message was hidden], car elle ne fut ajoutée à l’alphabet islandais qu’au quatorzième siècle." < 1466513403 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and apparently the message was written by a sixteenth-century alchemist, so that would make sense. < 1466513423 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book itself being far older, of course. < 1466513428 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: right < 1466513500 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one you used is said to be used as a calendar symbol only, but the name certainly looks like it was constructed as a double-M. < 1466513511 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: anyway, the other problems with encoding include the two different variants of the C rune (used for c, k, q in the text), the two different variants of the A rune, and more. < 1466513514 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods nortti
< 1466513529 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some stuff about capital letters looks strange. < 1466513540 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I dunno what else, you'd have to search the channel logs < 1466513567 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the capitals are way strange since I don’t think any runes had a case distinction. < 1466513587 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so either < 1466513648 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this younger futhark? < 1466513680 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: sure, but the alchemist who wrote it in the 12th century was probably familiar with a variant of the latin script that had case distinction, so that part at least isn't too strange. < 1466513721 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it's... complicated. It's some made-up version of futhark probably, one Verne figured from incomplete sources, because he didn't know too much about the history of futhark. Or so I gather. < 1466513726 0 :SLiV!d4eea4fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.238.164.250 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1466513741 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it looks like the message has them different in size. < 1466513751 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: not only different size, but also shape < 1466513756 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1466513770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: the capital I rune has serifs, and, wait, there was one with an even more strange difference < 1466513786 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a funny idea < 1466513789 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :serifs on runes < 1466513795 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1466513866 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusing aside: At home I have a thing with something that’s described as “an actual bookstaff”, this being a rod of beech-wood with runes carved into it. < 1466513889 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: what? serifs on runes make sense. runes have their shape because they were carved in wood, but later runes also got carved to stone, and in stone the serifs help < 1466513959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: look at the A at the start of Arne, that one has a different shape from the normal A apparently < 1466513963 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess? But I've never seen any serifs on runes carved in stones < 1466513979 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the difference is probably only that it's a seriffed variant < 1466513981 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea to put serifs on runes never occurred to me < 1466513994 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wait, are you some sort of rune carver or something? < 1466514013 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with like chisels in your pocket < 1466514047 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1466514050 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P < 1466514090 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, this is #esoteric, I brought the inscription in here because I fully expected that there will be at least people more familiar with futhark and/or unicode and/or futhark's unicode encoding than me. < 1466514106 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wouldn't be too surprised to find people with chisels too. < 1466514116 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sure. hence prodding nortti above. He's the residentt rune expert as far as I know < 1466514122 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1466514215 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know how to read younger futhark < 1466514258 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuneiform has serif-like marks on the strokes but that's because it's written on soft clay < 1466514285 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also not exactly carved, is it? < 1466514295 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :More molded, except I'm not sure if that is the right term < 1466514340 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, it's on paper or parchment or something, maybe with ink... I don't recall what the text says < 1466514370 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Verne thing? < 1466514378 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should read that book anyawy, regardless of inscriptions < 1466514380 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, the verne one < 1466514398 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, there are two scanned copies of probably the same original image, a better one on fr.wikisource, and a worse one (higher res but black and white) in an English translation of a book < 1466514624 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Impressed is what I have heard it called what cuneiform is. < 1466514642 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1466514757 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You specifically don’t want to remove any clay from the original glob, because that would just be a terrible mess to clean up. < 1466514971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Cuneiform is the most impressive writing system. < 1466514974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cuneiform': Cuneiform is the most impressive writing system. < 1466517857 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1466518534 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to zfs fuse? http://zfs-fuse.net/ < 1466518807 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Too much gambling, maybe. < 1466518836 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sad < 1466518951 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1466520741 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1466520846 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Client Quit < 1466520861 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1466520889 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466521219 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1466521587 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466521607 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466522016 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466522043 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466523113 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a bug...lambdabot wont tell you you have messages if the only tjing you say is addressed to lambdabot... < 1466524063 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:d9c8:5aa2:323c:e806 QUIT :Quit: see ya - bauen1 < 1466524066 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:3cc7:9a04:955e:5cb4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466524135 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:3cc7:9a04:955e:5cb4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1466524142 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:3cc7:9a04:955e:5cb4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466524142 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:3cc7:9a04:955e:5cb4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1466524151 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:3cc7:9a04:955e:5cb4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466524476 0 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466525511 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466525533 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1466525590 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-004-080-136.178.004.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1466526359 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1466526488 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1466526645 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode 9.0.0 is being released today by the way < 1466526675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the emoji are now considered wide characters < 1466526764 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will finally fix the problems with emoji in terminals < 1466527055 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also provides some new symbols which ill add tonight < 1466527387 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1466528575 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see < 1466528591 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"some new symbols which ill add tonight" => huh, what symbols are you talking about here? < 1466528711 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new miscellaneuous technical < 1466528739 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why are you interested in those in particular, as opposed to all the old symbols? < 1466528783 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have virtually the whole miscellaneous tecjnical block covered < 1466528801 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice to cover it completely < 1466528845 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see < 1466529051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fractran++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47241&oldid=30212 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10/* References */ < 1466530207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466530802 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Omam14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47242&oldid=47214 5* 03Marinus 5* (-38) 10Doesn't belong in category "unusable for programming", it's equivalent to Brainfuck. < 1466530971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1466532933 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1466533768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1466535815 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the new ones? < 1466536920 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1466537094 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the power symbols and the sleep mode symbol < 1466537118 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466537132 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made hbot a lot less vulnerable to forkbombs, and i finally made it work < 1466537149 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forkbombs are no longer bot murdering monsters < 1466537368 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1466537376 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi phantom < 1466537388 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just managed to make hbot no longer vulnerable to forkbombas < 1466537489 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to run sql queries on imdb? < 1466537511 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to find a movie and i only know a list of actors in it < 1466537656 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: dunno. I think you can list all movies of one actor, so you can start from that, or maybe ask http://movies.stackexchange.com/ if this is possible, or ask there directly about the movie < 1466537856 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hound can do that < 1466537884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are theactors < 1466537899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you s < 1466537953 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :harrison ford, mark hamill and carrie fisher < 1466537988 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I also remember people on some forum or irc channel give trivia quiz questions of the form of a movie with multiple actors, so you could try to find such strange people. < 1466538038 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :return of the jedi and empire strikes back < 1466538041 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: aren't those the top billed actors in _Star Wars: The Force Awakens_? < 1466538048 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's it < 1466538055 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys rock < 1466538065 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1466538068 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no jk that was an easy one to test you < 1466538079 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cameron diaz hugh laurie and rowan atkinson < 1466538089 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch what i said < 1466538101 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the version of nice i have is not very nice about subprocesses < 1466538107 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like googling their names works though < 1466538123 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: do you even cgroups < 1466538169 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm the search went through but Hound couldnt find the answer < 1466538226 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy working on this is a few cubes over ill send him an email < 1466538235 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: does it have to be a movie as opposed to some other genre like a TV series? < 1466538258 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i found it and it wasn't cameron diaz but joely richardson <.< < 1466538265 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame the crappy youtube video < 1466538273 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1466538322 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466538331 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a website that does this < 1466538349 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like thatmoviewith.xyz < 1466538369 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iza, im looking into cgroups right now >_> < 1466538382 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's http://thatmoviewith.com/ and it does that but it's an iphone app < 1466538522 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: movies.stackexchange.com might work in those cases. http://movies.stackexchange.com/q/50236/ is an example for a question like that. < 1466538556 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: "work" in that it is probably not the kind of post they like the most, but it's on-topic and might get an answer < 1466538595 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1466538602 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://movies.stackexchange.com/q/21758/ is another such question (id question with clips on youtube available) < 1466538629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you actually have a clip (on youtube or wherever) from the movie, it's probably a much better question than if you just post a description anyway. < 1466538685 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it thanks <.< < 1466538695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: sure, btu you said "someone should make a website that does this" < 1466538709 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and movies.stackexchange.com might qualify as such a website < 1466538711 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant in a more automatic way < 1466538761 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? do you need lower latency because you want to cheat in some sort of game show or other quiz? or more privacy about your question than that website offers? < 1466538777 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i like machines more than humans < 1466538829 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: in that case ask the meta question on movies.stackexchange.com , that is, ask how you can do such queries in an automated way < 1466538878 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :top answer will be to write a bot that asks movie.se and then scraps the answers and returns the result < 1466538914 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1466538932 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.imdb.com/search/common < 1466538932 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466538977 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very flexible uf < 1466539029 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/uf/unf < 1466539063 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate it when i mispell an abbreviation < 1466539165 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what's "unf"? < 1466539167 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unf < 1466539175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1466539191 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1466539202 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately < 1466539255 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought it meant unflexible
< 1466539450 0 :moon_!4c014833@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.51 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1466539461 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the esowiki, do we have a category for array languages, in the sense of eg. any of (APL, matlab, Mathematica, maxima, GAP), in which any of the built-in arithmetical primitives map to arrays of numbers automatically? < 1466540178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47243&oldid=43215 5* 03B jonas 5* (+782) 10/* Array-based languages */ new section < 1466540180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jelly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47244&oldid=46026 5* 03B jonas 5* (+256) 10 < 1466540486 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1041 < 1466540487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1041: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1466540579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :th_jonas < 1466540706 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3870:f23e:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1466540886 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooohh.... so many future plot points! < 1466540992 0 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466541001 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805] < 1466541019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many? < 1466541024 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541028 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466541028 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466541028 0 :espes___!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466541029 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466541061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boots of Free Movement, redundant Xs? < 1466541064 0 :toon!~toon@bigboy.ititou.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466541083 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: four, I think < 1466541085 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which ones? < 1466541109 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541111 0 :espes__!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541119 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, those two, plus Redcloak mentions one of his weaknesses that can be used against his team in a fight later, plus magic belt < 1466541138 0 :toon!~toon@bigboy.ititou.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541254 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and for the boots, note that Xykon has been in a situation where that would have been useful, in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html first panel. I think. I'm not sure about the rules. < 1466541271 0 :augur!~augur@199-83-220-245.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541432 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541664 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is lambdabot's maintainer? < 1466541725 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: dunno, try asking in #haskell < 1466541745 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have sworn it was someone who hangs out here < 1466541761 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was. < 1466541766 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambdabot < 1466541767 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3870:f23e:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1466541773 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hackego knows < 1466541777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? weather < 1466541779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @@ @@ (@where weather) CYUL ENVA ESSB KOAK < 1466541781 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src. < 1466541782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CYUL 211900Z 24016G22KT 30SM SCT065 SCT240 24/06 A2973 RMK CU3CI1 SLP068 DENSITY ALT 1400FT \ ENVA 211920Z 25008KT 9999 BKN045 13/09 Q1015 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 28011KT \ ESSB 211920Z 20006KT CAVOK 18/13 Q1014 \ KOAK 211853Z 27007KT 10SM FEW200 23/12 A3003 RMK AO2 SLP168 T02330122 < 1466541791 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1466541801 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball Who maintains lambdabot? < 1466541803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't count on it. < 1466541807 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541835 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1466541915 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: quintopia asks who maintains lambdabot, maybe you know the answer < 1466541933 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's currently int-e < 1466541937 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "It was." as in he no longer hangs out here because I sent them away? < 1466541939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1466541945 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: thanks < 1466541946 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^ < 1466541959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? int-e < 1466541963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. < 1466541976 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -Rli lambdabot wisdom < 1466542013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It was Cale, and then it was elliott, and then it was int-e. < 1466542024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah < 1466542045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, did anyone volunteer to maintain geordi yet then? < 1466542054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/lambdabot \ wisdom/prefixes \ wisdom/weather \ wisdom/ghci \ wisdom/reflection < 1466542056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eelis said he needs a new maintainer < 1466542067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't. < 1466542102 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prefixes < 1466542103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1466542107 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1466542164 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Cale < 1466542165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1466542174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF! < 1466542188 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1466542190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is a wise little gentleman. < 1466542196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1466542196 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1466542199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag wisdom/shachaf < 1466542203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ learn shachaf is a wise little gentleman. \ learn shachaf is was little gentleman \ ` cat < wisdom/funpun | cat | rot13 | cat | cat > wisdom/shachaf \ learn_append shachaf The unit of bad punnery is named after him. \ learn_append shachaf He hates bell peppers with a passion. \ revert \ ", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1466542275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/shachaf < 1466542281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 8345:7b160701cdf9 \ user: HackBot \ date: Sun Jun 05 07:03:52 2016 +0000 \ summary: learn shachaf is a wise little gentleman. \ \ changeset: 8344:dc5988a2985d \ user: HackBot \ date: Sun Jun 05 07:03:38 2016 +0000 \ summary: learn shachaf is was little gentleman \ \ changeset: < 1466542333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: And you did it in /msg or something? I don't see it in the logs. < 1466542466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat -r 8343 wisdom/shachaf > wisdom/shachaf < 1466542476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1466542601 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1466542657 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Cale is the inventor of the calzone. < 1466542662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cale': Cale is the inventor of the calzone. < 1466542715 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does wisdom have any symlink to directory (recursively) under it? < 1466542779 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` find wisdom -type l \! -xtype f < 1466542781 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably no < 1466542784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1466542924 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1466542968 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1466543174 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3870:f23e:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1466543781 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-awkmkbbwwsttwzgy QUIT :Excess Flood < 1466543982 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hefwahcoubhxjpqo JOIN :#esoteric < 1466544156 0 :augur!~augur@199-83-220-245.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466544573 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does WM_CLIENT_LEADER mean? < 1466545168 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1466545232 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1466545315 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*ccc* < 1466545317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/=@ccc wisdom/ioccc wisdom/ioccclist < 1466545335 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't know icccm. < 1466546281 0 :nunatak!~nunatak@unaffiliated/nunatak JOIN :#esoteric < 1466547245 0 :augur!~augur@50-193-61-27-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466548389 0 :nunatak!~nunatak@unaffiliated/nunatak QUIT :Quit: Verlassend < 1466548462 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is many variant of Crazy Eights card game, I think. < 1466548846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you invented a card game based on chess? < 1466549000 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I think someone else has done < 1466549127 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3870:f23e:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466549255 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccc < 1466549256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IOCCC is the Industrial Ordovician COBOL Conference Circuit. Not to be confused with OIC. See also ioccclist. < 1466549264 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccclist < 1466549265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioccclist is update notification for when a new year of the International Obfuscated C Code Contest is announced, or the winners for a year is announced, or the source codes of winners are released. http://www.ioccc.org/#news < 1466549309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you hear about my dream? < 1466549315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the details of it anymore. < 1466549324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there was a conference about cartesian closed categories called "IOCCC". < 1466549358 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :International Obfuscated Cartesian Closed Categories" < 1466549394 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why it took so long to release the source code after the winners were announced < 1466549471 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo confused me there >_< < 1466549494 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, almost 6 months? < 1466549826 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1466550030 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1466550048 0 :moon_!~moon_@tx-76-1-72-51.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466550312 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you fix your wisdom entry yet < 1466550321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1466550322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1466550334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay good (y) < 1466550336 0 :augur!~augur@50-193-61-27-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1466550372 0 :augur!~augur@50-193-61-27-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466550380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite irritated that Elronnd edited my wisdom entry in secret. < 1466550383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very hostile. < 1466550470 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the "hates with a passion" thingy a recurrent joke? < 1466550560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1466550564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't put it in there. < 1466550566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1466550567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious renouned cackling zombie overlord emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a passion. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up instead. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1466550610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the phrase "for his convenience". It's a shame that's gone. < 1466550657 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least "mildly dislikes with a passion" is a proper comedic form < 1466550675 0 :augur!~augur@50-193-61-27-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1466550689 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1466550690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a. < 1466550725 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaa why does my android have one! < 1466550752 0 :augur!~augur@50-193-61-27-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1466550788 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt notice until now the ugly ugly three storey g and two storey a < 1466551439 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1466551543 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@83-245-231-65-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1466551553 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1466551887 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of typography, I heard TfL (Transport for London) commissioned a new variant of the font the use in the Tube from Monotype, called Johnston100, to replace the old New Johnston. < 1466552019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1466552034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's London? < 1466552045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple people I know are visiting there for a while. < 1466552057 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just moved offices. < 1466552074 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came back from a two-week Finland vacation this Monday, straight to the new place on its first day of business. < 1466552133 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-new-11-storey-office-in-londons-kings-cross-2016-6 < 1466552167 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it feels much more like a generic corporate office than the previous one -- no quirky quirks of any kind. < 1466552215 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe they'll adjust it. Only the top half's done, anyway. < 1466552248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Funny, I heard the same thing from the people I worked with about the office they moved to. < 1466552264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The word "corporate" in particular.) < 1466552304 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they've hired more that kind of people in the REWS organization. < 1466552324 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the ones in London don't even like our mannequins. < 1466552342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure whoever is in charge of that organization REWS the day they hired those people. < 1466552411 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our team's got six or so mannequins dressed up in various animal costumes, and grapevine has it all REWS does internally is complain about them. We didn't even dare to let them move that stuff, for fear of it accidentally "getting lost". < 1466552427 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, one of the senior folks now has a car full of body parts as a result. < 1466552471 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know, I was in Finland.) < 1466552780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what I heard was that the new London office was going to be the best office ever made. < 1466552785 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that yet another office? < 1466552884 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's yet another one. < 1466552890 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They still haven't start building that one. < 1466552895 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just a rented building. < 1466552985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They won't let you have mannequins in the rented office? < 1466553399 0 :augur!~augur@50-193-61-27-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection