00:00:37 hpp: Star Wars is Disney's now, they take all Star Wars videos down 00:00:46 copyright inthingy thing 00:00:52 intimidation 00:01:07 wob_jonas: Yeah, but at least someone would have protested and won I would think 00:01:29 I'm not sure they would in this case 00:02:22 wob_jonas: You can't really get anything Star Wars out of people moving things with the force in rapid succession 00:02:40 wob_jonas: Hell, Disney probably would've done it by now 00:02:43 hmm 00:02:56 a 2005 ruling on Replenish says "Auras can only be placed on permanents that were on the battlefield before this effect started to resolve. You can't put an enchantment onto the battlefield with Replenish and put an Aura that is also entering the battlefield onto one of those enchantments." 00:03:07 you have to determine what to enchant before you put them to the battlefield 00:03:12 ah right 00:03:16 Ah, here's one: https://youtu.be/3IA-3C9dRSA 00:03:31 I assume that ruling would also apply to other similar effects 00:03:40 ok, then I think Simic Guildmage might be the only way 00:04:01 there are some other cards that reattach auras, but they don't work in this case 00:04:11 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:06:13 ciaoily! 00:07:05 what happens if I have two Power Taints enchanting each other, both with a liquimetal coating, there's a Teferi's Realm in play, and I choose to exile all artifacts? 00:07:30 as in, what happens in the next untap step when the two taints try to unphase 00:09:38 `card-by-name Teferi's REalm 00:09:40 Teferi's Realm \ 1UU \ World Enchantment \ At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player chooses artifact, creature, land, or non-Aura enchantment. All nontoken permanents of that type phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during his or her next unta 00:10:37 Rule 702.25g says: If an object would simultaneously phase out directly and indirectly, it just phases out indirectly. 00:10:37 Also, same question if only one of the Taints has a coating 00:10:58 zzo38: heheh 00:10:58 I suppose they remain phased out forever? 00:11:01 `card-by-name power taint 00:11:02 Power Taint \ 1U \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant enchantment \ At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted enchantment's controller, that player loses 2 life unless he or she pays {2}. \ Cycling {2} ({2}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) \ US-C 00:11:54 zzo38: agreed, that rule seems to imply that they'd phase out permanently 00:12:35 * oerjan thinks boily forgot to chicken out. 00:12:37 but don't indirectly phased out permanents still phase in? 00:12:55 the phasing rules are complicated and I never even had the illusion of understanding them 00:13:28 Indirectly phased out permanents phase in along with the permanent it is attached to (rule 702.25f). 00:13:48 hmm 00:14:01 ok, so what if only one of the Taints was coated? then one phases out directly and one indirectly 00:14:04 I think 00:14:19 or is the indirect phasing recursive so both phase out indirectly again? 00:16:35 "702.25f When a permanent phases out, any Auras, Equipment, or Fortifications attached to that permanent phase out at the same time. This alternate way of phasing out is known as phasing out “indirectly.” An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out indirectly won’t phase in by itself, but instead phases in along with the permanent it’s att 00:16:35 ached to." 00:17:25 "702.25h An Aura, Equipment, or Fortification that phased out directly will phase in attached to the object or player it was attached to when it phased out, if that object is still in the same zone or that player is still in the game. If not, that Aura, Equipment, or Fortification phases in unattached. ..." 00:17:49 It seem to me it would be recursive, so both phase out indirectly, but you should ask Wizards of the Coast anyways, I think 00:21:11 zzo38: by the way, have you tried to make a card that directly affects a phased out permanent specifically? 00:21:20 such as moves it to another zone 00:22:05 I do not remember but you can look up everything I have published 00:22:38 ah, there's Phase In 00:26:02 hellørjan. phone and IRC don't mix hth 00:29:04 helloily 00:29:39 havent seen you in here last few evenings 00:31:54 -!- augur has joined. 00:33:48 Ok, crazy idea. You have in play a Graf Rats, and also a Chittering Host (melded card) that's cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. Graf Rats's ability triggers, so you exile both Graf Rats and Chittering Host. Then you're supposed to check the two exiled cards if they're a melded pair, but it turns out you have three exiled cards. Do you meld anythin 00:33:48 g, and if so, which Graf Rats? 00:34:07 (Graf Rats and Midnight Scavengers meld to Chittering Host.) 00:35:08 You could even find four cards in exile this way, and they could even be two Hanweir Battlements and two Hanweir Garrison. 00:35:30 ok, this is too crazy 00:36:46 hmm, or you could have a manifested face down Hanweir Garrison cytoshaped to a Graf Rats, and a manifested face down Hanweir Battlements cytoshaped to Midnight Scavengers. 00:37:33 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:37:36 (from rel notes) "712.2. One card in each meld pair has an ability that exiles both that object and its counterpart and melds them. To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined (see rule 701.34, “Meld”). The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards." 00:38:12 quintopia: quinthellopia! social life happened. 00:38:28 "701.34b Only two cards belonging to the same meld pair can be melded. Tokens, cards that aren’t meld cards, or meld cards that don’t form a meld pair can’t be melded." 00:39:22 "12.4c If an effect can find the new object that a melded permanent becomes as it leaves the battlefield, it finds both cards. (See rule 400.7.) If that effect causes actions to be taken upon those cards, those actions are taken upon each of them." 00:39:22 boily: there's no time for that. it's sgdq week AND camp nanowrimo! 00:39:40 boily: in your opinion, which is the most famous real chimp in history? 00:39:42 quintopia: isn't nanowrimo in november? 00:40:11 yes 00:40:23 second camp is july 00:40:45 "701.34a Meld is a keyword action that appears in an ability on one card in a meld pair. (...) To meld the two cards in a meld pair, put them onto the battlefield with their back faces up and combined. The resulting permanent is a single object represented by two cards." 00:41:10 so you'd have to perform that on each of the exiled cards that came from exiling the melded permanent 00:41:41 as restricte by 701.34b 00:45:41 (and if there's no valid object to enchant, then you attach the aura to Gnome Ann) 00:46:08 well good night 00:46:15 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 00:46:39 boily: shocking 00:48:54 quintopia: lucy. 00:49:02 lucy was a chimp? 00:49:06 oerjan: I know! lots of sudden boardgaming! 00:49:09 oerjan: I... guess so? 00:51:31 i think that's rather misinterpreted hth 00:52:36 hm oh there was a chimp called lucy 00:52:46 stupid non-injective naming 00:54:50 was there more than one damous non-human lucy? 00:54:53 *famous 00:55:07 quintopia: yes, although the other was prehistoric hth 00:55:35 eh, i'm willing to grant australopithecus provisional humanity :P 00:55:53 lucy the chimp seemed to have a sad ending 00:56:17 in norway, the most famous chimpanzee would be julius 00:57:50 he seems to be getting along better these days. 00:58:52 neat 01:00:15 quintopia: Considering that some people advocate for considering chimps "human" that's not completely crazy to grant. 01:00:22 * boily supports chimps and other fuzzy animals 01:01:35 pikhq: yeah it seems kind of arbitrary to say "you're not a human unless you understand the concept of a teacher intentionally helping you" 01:11:08 vr game idea: you and a friend stand on a giant room-sized NES controller, jumping onto the buttons to play SMB1 01:13:54 hmm... 01:13:56 * boily thinks 01:14:40 a giant NES controller, downtown on Ste-Catherine, with classic NES games projected on a building wall. that'd fit with the art installations. 01:14:44 even better if it weren't VR. 01:14:51 well 01:14:56 let's get crackalacking on that 01:18:30 build it out of maple, commission an art collective for a post-modern paintjob, hook a 'duino on the innards, rasp pi for the games, and bob's your uncle. 01:23:10 bill's his name actually, but close enough 01:25:00 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:27:28 quintopia: obviously, if you did this he would change his name to bob 01:28:47 i'll take your word for it 01:30:05 boily: we can just buy and disassemble a steel dance pad, save half the work of making the buttons durable to people jumping on them 01:32:26 but but... maple... 01:32:35 * boily has a sentimental attachment towards maple 01:37:28 -!- ratpuke has joined. 01:39:57 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 01:43:03 I'm here to be educated thoroughly. What is haskell used for 01:43:20 programming 01:43:25 hth 01:43:43 Thanks babe 01:43:49 boily: time to increment your relcome counter 01:43:56 quintopia: just watch me :D 01:44:00 `relcome ratpuke 01:44:08 ratpuke: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 01:44:17 Rainbow welcome nice 01:44:26 it's used for experimenting with functional programming features, mostly 01:44:33 To bad its default black and white on my end 01:45:11 Any day to day uses 01:49:06 it's not too bad for writing compilers and similar tree-walking programs 01:49:26 Mmm 01:49:31 Sounds good 01:49:34 also it's good for testing theories in computer science empirically 01:49:50 via coding them in Haskell directly 01:50:12 Might try it out 01:51:26 it's very nice for parsing data and mashing it in mysterious ways. 01:53:20 boily: only an hour now until the SMM blind kaizo team relay race starts 01:53:27 time for me to walk home 01:54:29 -!- ratpuke has quit (Quit: Bye). 01:55:33 quintopia: less than an hour, it's going to start very soon 01:55:35 they'rr already in setup 01:55:49 try refreshing the schedule, it changes over time as runs go ahead and/or behind 01:59:32 quintopia: good walk! don't get lost! don't get bitten by any wandering cryptid! 02:02:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:03:35 those wereticks can be nasty 02:05:17 I only fear "mouches à chevreuils". those bastards can make you bleed even if they bite through your clothes. 02:06:10 en:horseflies. 02:06:14 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 02:06:14 `thanks wikipédia 02:06:18 Thanks, wikipédia. Thikipédia. 02:07:25 now you're pulling my klegg 02:08:11 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:08:46 oh i'm confusing with knott 02:09:03 * oerjan was wondering why he'd thought they were tiny 02:09:08 i'm confusing with klogg 02:09:14 * boily swats oerjan --------### 02:09:18 @google klogg 02:09:19 http://theneverhood.wikia.com/wiki/Klogg 02:09:19 Title: Klogg - The Neverhood Wiki - Wikia 02:09:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgrkdzO6Ao 02:09:51 looks like an upstanding citizen 02:11:06 en:biting midges, it seems 02:11:14 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KjOXd7luraM/hqdefault.jpg ← an example of what they can do. caveat "not my legs" emptor. 02:15:50 caveat not clicking hth 02:36:15 time to go understand my mattress. 02:36:18 'night all! 02:36:28 -!- boily has quit (Quit: REWIND CHICKEN). 02:38:45 hm 02:38:49 `cat bin/` 02:38:51 #!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl 02:39:06 doesn't that TIMEFORMAT line need an export? 02:39:34 or hm maybe it's only for use in an internal bash command? 02:39:48 `` time echo hi 02:39:50 real: 0m0.003s, user: 0m0.000s, sys: 0m0.000s \ hi 02:39:59 `run time echo hi 02:39:59 \ real0m0.001s \ user0m0.000s \ sys0m0.000s \ hi 02:40:07 indeed 02:40:08 It would need an export, time is a bash internal. 02:40:12 *but 02:40:34 good, good 02:41:17 (this is not true of all shells though; other shells will end up executing the time binary in the PATH) 02:52:05 -!- centrinia has joined. 02:52:15 * oerjan gives today's mezzacotta full score on basis of the middle panel's absurdity. 02:55:15 -!- bauen1 has quit (Read error: No route to host). 02:56:31 -!- bauen1 has joined. 03:04:06 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 03:08:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:18:24 One of the new Magic: the Gathering cards I made up will temporarily replace the rules text of one card with that of another card. 03:19:38 zzo38: spell, permanent, or card in hand? 03:19:55 I'd recommend doing it on permanents, otherwise overload/arcane could give problems 03:20:41 It does only affect permanents and can take the text only from permanent cards. 03:21:19 {X1}, {T}, Discard a permanent card with converted mana cost X: Target permanent's rules text becomes the discarded card's rules text until end of turn. Monstrosity 1. Scry 1. 03:24:10 what's with the monstrosity? 03:24:10 I suspect that still makes the rules sad, but there's at least a chance that might work. Maybe. 03:24:36 it doesn't prevent you using the ability multiple times 03:24:37 it's just random 03:24:41 It is part of another card, which is why the monstrosity is there; it is just instead of a separate ability 03:25:01 (Same thing with scry) 03:25:20 that's a complex card! 03:25:34 Yes it is. 03:26:07 You can look up that (and other) card in my collection of made up cards 03:30:00 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 03:52:28 -!- wanderlust has joined. 04:15:08 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 04:25:10 -!- Reece` has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:33:35 I'm looking for a language were the future code changes what the previous code should be. 04:33:53 -!- Melvar` has joined. 04:34:32 `welcome wanderlust 04:34:54 sounds like Feather 04:34:55 `? feather 04:35:00 foiled by the oerjan 04:35:07 (which is alas vaporware) 04:35:11 -!- Melvar has quit (Disconnected by services). 04:35:13 -!- Melvar` has changed nick to Melvar. 04:35:23 zzo38: Is vaporware Feather? 04:35:35 shachaf: I don't know 04:35:36 -!- idris-bot has joined. 04:35:42 i think you're confusing zzo38 and ais523 04:35:45 wanderlust: 04:35:45 feather? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 04:35:51 also possibly Feather and TwoDucks 04:36:14 well that was a timeout. 04:36:30 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:36:38 oerjan: vaporware is a common acquaintance of zzo38's and mine 04:36:44 oh right 04:37:21 `? father 04:37:23 TwoDucks is also time traveling, but i'm not sure it's self modifying. 04:37:24 father? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 04:38:31 `learn Father is an ancestor of Feather. 04:39:36 feather can retroactively modify both data and code 04:39:58 although to retroactively modify code, you need to go back to a point in time at which it was data 04:40:03 ais523: I thought it could also retroactively modify the compiler? 04:40:06 indeed 04:40:41 but the interpreter is being interpreted by another Feather interpreter 04:41:06 so you basically just have to find the data source that the outer interpreter is using for the source of the inner interpreter and change that 04:41:31 this being Feather, there is probably some way to change the entire infinite stack of compilers stretching back forever; I'd be surprised if there wasn't 04:41:32 \me is impressed with the recommendation 04:42:07 that said, I get confused when trying to work out how the whole thing works 04:42:16 perhaps unsurprisingly 04:42:21 *infinite stack of interpreters 04:45:12 <\oren\> AAARGH 04:45:35 <\oren\> I'm trying to generate my font and FontForge keeps crashing 04:46:33 <\oren\> maybe this time it won't crash 04:47:40 <\oren\> I guess I ought to work faster on my bdf2ttf program 04:48:25 ais523: what happens if two of them us the same data source? or is that prohibited by the theoretical model? 04:48:49 alercah: most outright attempts to create a paradox end up leading to an infinite loop in Feather's model 04:53:38 the time travel model is actually quite simple, it's just call/cc 05:00:55 <\oren\> Ok, this time it isn't crashing, it's just taking forever to vectorize the font. 05:07:10 <\oren\> http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/07/08/i-hate-you-japans-anime-style-mobile-romance-game-starring-girls-who-will-never-ever-love-you/ 05:07:41 <\oren\> dating sim: realism overhaul 05:08:34 <\oren\> `? time 05:08:40 `wisdom 05:08:42 time? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:08:44 yeeeeeeeeesh//See yeeeeeeeesh. 05:08:50 `? yeeeeeeeesh 05:08:54 See yeeeeeeesh. 05:08:59 See, this is why we need the jammed up rnooodl. 05:09:02 `? yeeeeeeesh 05:09:03 See yeeeeeesh. 05:09:10 `? yeesh 05:09:11 <\oren\> `? yesh 05:09:16 yeesh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:09:16 yesh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:09:22 <\oren\> `? yeeesh 05:09:24 See yeesh. 05:14:15 <\oren\> `? ttf 05:14:17 ttf? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:14:42 `1 cat wisdom/y*sh 05:14:50 1/1:See yeeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeeesh. \ See yeeeeesh. \ See yeeeesh. \ See yeeesh. \ See yeesh. 05:14:52 <\oren\> Torturous Toxin Font 05:15:55 <\oren\> Tcl Telemetry Font 05:16:53 <\oren\> `? tcl 05:16:54 tcl? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:17:25 <\oren\> `? bash 05:17:27 bash? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:17:37 <\oren\> `? perl 05:17:38 Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language 05:17:47 `cwlprits perl 05:17:51 mroman 05:18:05 Are you sure that's not PERL? 05:18:07 <\oren\> `? python 05:18:08 python = ProgrammingLanguage(attrs=[plattrs['WHITESPACE_SENSITIVE'], plattrs['INTERPRETED'], *plparadigms['IMPERATIVE', 'FUNCTIONAL']]) 05:18:18 `rm wisdom/python 05:18:23 No output. 05:18:28 `cwlprits wisdom/python 05:18:33 No output. 05:18:37 oops 05:18:41 too much wisdom 05:18:42 `cwlprits python 05:18:46 shachaf hppavilion[1] 05:18:57 `? lisp 05:18:58 (eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix))) 05:18:58 <\oren\> `? lisp 05:19:00 (eq "lisp" (proglang-with '(use-lots ["(" ")"]) '(paradigm functional) '(notation-type prefix))) 05:19:04 `rm wisdom/lisp 05:19:06 No output. 05:19:08 <\oren\> `? jinx 05:19:09 jinx? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:19:32 <\oren\> `? c 05:19:33 C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault 05:19:36 JINX Is Not XENIX 05:19:40 `cwlprits c 05:19:46 int-e ais523 Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia 05:20:19 <\oren\> `? d 05:20:21 D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language. 05:20:30 <\oren\> `? x 05:20:31 x? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:20:42 <\oren\> `? a 05:20:43 A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. 05:21:03 <\oren\> `? b 05:21:03 `? bbc 05:21:08 B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. 05:21:08 The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. 05:21:25 <\oren\> `? e 05:21:26 e? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:21:32 <\oren\> `? j 05:21:35 j? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:21:53 <\oren\> `? w 05:21:54 w? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:22:02 `slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#\.#, and villages in Norway# 05:22:05 wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation, and villages in Norway Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs. Taneb invented it. 05:22:15 oops 05:22:16 `revert 05:22:42 rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. 05:22:44 `slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway# 05:22:49 wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway Taneb invented it. 05:22:58 >_> 05:23:04 oh 05:23:05 right 05:23:07 well 05:23:08 `revert 05:23:10 rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. 05:23:24 can't turn back now 05:23:31 `slwd bbc//s# and#,#;s#s\.#s, and villages in Norway.# 05:23:34 wisdom/bbc//The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway. Taneb invented it. 05:24:05 `` cd wisdom; ls ? 05:24:07 ` \ ^ \ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ * \ \ \ ☃ \ ⊥ \ ꙮ \ ⌨ \ 　 \ 𝕈 \ 🐐 \ 🐚 \ \ 0 \ 1 \ 9 \ a \ å \ Å \ b \ c \ d \ i \ k \ l \ o \ ø \ Ø \ ß \ u \ y \ э \ Э \ Я 05:24:37 <\oren\> `? ☃ 05:24:38 Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. 05:24:44 <\oren\> lol 05:25:17 <\oren\> `? Я 05:25:18 Я? ¯$°_o)/¯ 05:25:24 Hmm, how can I look up arbitrary Unicode wisdoms when I only have an ASCII keyboard? 05:25:37 hm 05:25:40 `? should support punycode or something. 05:25:55 <\oren\> shachaf: use tmux to copypaste 05:25:56 `wisdom Я 05:25:58 Я//Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet 05:26:08 `? Я 05:26:09 Я? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:26:13 hmph 05:26:17 `cat bin/? 05:26:19 #!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic1"_ = "_ngevd"_ $ -a $ -e ngevd $ ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; 05:26:25 <\oren\> `? Э 05:26:26 eh? 05:26:28 `cat bin/lowercase 05:26:30 sed 's/./\l&/g;s/Ø/ø/g' 05:26:39 hm i see. 05:27:06 <\oren\> `wisdom э 05:27:08 Э//EH? 05:27:30 `` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | diff - ../tmp/w 05:27:33 No output. 05:27:36 er 05:27:43 `` cd wisdom; ls ? >../tmp/w; ls ? | lowercase | diff - ../tmp/w 05:27:46 24c24 \ < å \ --- \ > Å \ 33c33 \ < ø \ --- \ > Ø \ 38,39c38,39 \ < э \ < я \ --- \ > Э \ > Я 05:27:58 <\oren\> `? 핈 05:27:59 핈? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:28:06 hmph 05:28:13 For consistency, `? should be renamed to `cwt 05:28:25 `hoag bin/lowercase 05:28:31 ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g;s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ ` echo "sed \'s/./\\l&/g\'" > bin/lowercase \ ` echo sed \'s/./\\l&/g\' > bin/lowercase \ ` echo tr A-Z\xc3\x98 a-z\xc3\xb8 > bin/lowercase \ ` sed -i "s!z!z | sed \'s/\xc3\x98/\xc3\xb8/g\'!" bin/lowercase \ revert \ `wisdom 핈 05:28:39 cat: : No such file or directory \ // 05:28:42 `url bin/lowercase 05:28:46 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/lowercase 05:29:22 <\oren\> `? ⊥ 05:29:24 ⊥ is a bottom tack, useful for annoying teachers. 05:29:36 `mkx bin/howg//hoag "wisdom/$1" 05:29:41 bin/howg 05:29:46 -!- Froo has joined. 05:29:49 `` hg cat -r 6185 bin/lowercase 05:29:52 <\oren\> `? k 05:30:05 <\oren\> `? l 05:30:09 #!/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z | sed 's/Ø/ø/g' 05:30:11 K K K Ken 05:30:11 L is far too short to be a village in Wales. 05:30:18 `` hg cat -r 6185 bin/lowercase >bin/lowercase 05:30:29 No output. 05:30:45 <\oren\> `? ¿ 05:30:47 ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? ¿? 05:30:48 `? Я 05:30:50 Я is the 8th letter of the hsilgnE alphabet 05:31:04 there you go. i knew izabera's changes would break stuff. 05:31:15 ya 05:31:36 shachaf: are you confirming, or just pronouncing the letter aloud? 05:31:40 ya 05:31:57 <\oren\> や 05:32:00 * oerjan swats shachaf -----### 05:32:07 <\oren\> ヤ 05:32:10 oerjan: What was that pun that you didn't get the other day? 05:32:13 <\oren\> 矢 05:32:53 I was going to explain it but I forgot. 05:32:54 -!- Froox has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 05:33:14 `rm tmp/w 05:33:16 Oh, right. 05:33:17 No output. 05:33:27 oerjan: Single-layer perceptron networks can't compute xor. 05:33:52 <\oren\> Ꮿ 05:35:02 \oren\: you can try those that weren't working again now, i just fixed a recently introduced feature. 05:35:59 <\oren\> 丨ㄚ 05:36:20 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:36:27 <\oren\> `? 핈 05:36:29 핈? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:36:40 <\oren\> `? Э 05:36:41 EH? 05:37:07 -!- augur has joined. 05:37:08 <\oren\> `? э 05:37:11 eh? 05:37:27 <\oren\> `? ☃ 05:37:28 Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. 05:37:35 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:37:45 shachaf: huh i suspected xor was involved. 05:38:07 oerjan: it was bound to happen hth 05:38:21 but i'm more familiar with circuit complexity than neural networks. 05:40:11 <\oren\> YAY the autotrace finished! 05:40:44 oerjan: but are you familiar with hugs 05:41:33 `? twh 05:41:35 twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. 05:41:45 <\oren\> `? hand 05:41:46 A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. 05:41:57 <\oren\> `? bird 05:41:58 bird bird bird bird 05:42:09 <\oren\> `? canary 05:42:10 No output. 05:42:29 i used hugs for several years hth 05:42:38 <\oren\> `? hg 05:42:39 hg? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:42:43 <\oren\> `? hug 05:42:46 hug? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:43:07 `? tdh 05:43:08 tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. 05:43:20 twh is the subjunctive tense of a future hth 05:44:51 <\oren\> `le/rn hg/hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury. 05:44:56 Learned «hg» 05:45:18 `? oerjan 05:45:19 Your mysterious articled cackling zombie underlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 05:45:37 `slwd oerjan//s#under#oever# 05:45:40 wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie oeverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 05:46:26 <\oren\> `? sled 05:46:29 `sled // 05:46:43 `slwd oerjan//s/oe/ø/ 05:46:45 wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious articled cackling zombie øverlord kommisjonær emeritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 05:47:54 that's funny, i don't even know real hg. 05:48:26 `? slwd 05:48:27 slwd? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 05:49:19 `le/rn slwd/`slwd // 05:49:22 Learned «slwd» 05:50:08 `cat bin/slwd 05:50:10 sled "wisdom/$1" 05:51:46 `cat bin/sled 05:51:47 [[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo 'usage: sled file//script'; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; [[ -f "$key" ]] || { echo 'Rosebud!'; exit 1; }; sed -i "$value" "$key" && { echo -n "$key//"; cat "$key"; } 05:52:07 oerjan: i was going to do a clever `slwd ../bin/slwd thing 05:52:15 but then i didn't have one 05:52:16 OKAY 05:52:26 *sad trombone* 05:54:29 <\oren\> wo wo wowowowowo 05:55:58 <\oren\> argh why is fontforge getting so sloooooooow 06:21:48 -!- augur has joined. 06:23:20 -!- wanderlust has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:27:52 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 06:28:07 moo 06:28:18 <\oren\> I uploadted the new version! 06:28:21 <\oren\> 悦悩惑惜惧惨惰愁愉愚慄慈慌慎慕慢慨慮慰慶憂憎憚憤憧憩憬憶憾懇懐懲懸 06:28:24 <\oren\> ⚝⚞⚟⚠⚡⚢⚣⚤⚥⚦⚧⚨⚩⚲⚳⚴⚵✍✎✐⤧⤨⤩⤪⤫⤬⤭⤮⤯⤰⤱⤲⤳⤸⤹⤺⤻⤼⤽⥂⥃⥄⥅⥆⥇⥊⥋⥌⥍⥎⥏ 06:28:27 <\oren\> ⥐⥑⥒⥓⥔⥕⥖⥗⥘⥙⥚⥛⥜⥝⥞⥟⥠⥡⥢⥣⥤⥥⥦⥧⥨⥩⥪⥫⥬⥭⥮⥯⧨⧩⧪⧫⧬⧭⧮⧯⧰⧱⧲⧳㋐㋑㋒㋓㋔㋕㋖㋗㋘㋙㋚㋛㋜㋝㋞㋟ 06:28:31 <\oren\> ㋠㋡㋢㋣㋤㋥㋦㋧㋨㋩㋪㋫㋬㋭㋮㋯㋰㋱㋲㋳㋴㋵㋶㋷㋸㋹㋺㋻㋼㋽㋾㍱㍲㍳㍴㍵㍶㍷㍸㍹㍺㍻㍼㍽㍾㎀㎁㎂㎃㎄㎅㎆㎇㎈㎉㎊㎋ 06:28:34 <\oren\> 2 06:29:01 i ported my bot to discord and finally went to learning node.js 06:30:12 <\oren\> I have passed the 8000 character mark 06:31:21 if anyone wants the SRC im willing to share it 06:31:33 \oren\: That sounds like quite a novel. 06:35:32 -!- moonythedwarf has changed nick to moon_. 06:43:01 HAHAHAHA Elixir and Rust have warts that, if you squint, look similar 06:53:47 <\oren\> Sgeo: like waht? 06:54:09 Hmm, functions with optional arguments can't be captured as a function argument with optional arguments, just the different possible arities are each one possible function. Funnily, this reminds me of a Rust wart, you can have generic functions, but can't capture them as a value that takes generics. 06:55:08 * Sgeo curses HexChat copy behavior 06:55:15 Sgeo: When are you scheduled to get obsessed with Swift? 06:55:28 Sgeo: Sure, but the Rust one will be fixed once HKT is ever implemented, and in Elixir, you don't want to store functions for very long, so you're probably not passing them to somebody who would want the optional argument behaviour. 06:56:15 <\oren\> ``once ... is ever'' interesting construction 06:56:16 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `once: not found 06:56:52 <\oren\> simultaniously implying soon and not soon 06:56:52 not even `once 06:58:06 should've used `àwesome quoteś´ 06:58:31 <\oren\> what the 06:58:38 or perhaps ònce-awesome quoteś 06:58:51 <\oren\> `unidecode `à 06:58:52 [U+0060 GRAVE ACCENT] [U+00E0 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE] 06:59:01 <\oren\> ooh 07:03:02 \oren\: you've made a grave error 07:03:56 lol 07:07:51 shachaf, not sure. An interest in iOS would probably help. 07:08:05 I briefly wondered about Objective-C but lost interest 07:08:27 But Swift runs on Linux. 07:08:35 And it has algebraic data types and everything you like. 07:08:58 Objective-C is a strict superset of C as far as I know, so any C code will also work in a Objective-C program. 07:09:18 C++ is a strict superset of a strict subset of C. 07:09:35 So any C code which is also C++ code is also C++ code. 07:25:17 -!- centrinia has joined. 07:25:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 07:45:05 -!- tswett has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 07:48:44 <\oren\> Hmm what should I add next? 08:26:14 I have a code if(rom_here-instruction_pos<17 && rom[instruction_pos]==(cell)0x8BBE+rom_here-instruction_pos) { but it says that "+rom_here-instruction_pos" is an invalid suffix for an integer constant. Adding a space before the plus sign works though. 08:27:06 Why does it do that? 08:27:14 3e10 08:27:20 3e+10 08:27:26 looks a bit like a float? 08:29:14