< 1468540824 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1468540833 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I should've known "coily". < 1468540895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently it means "hello" as well, it's just not on that list. < 1468540918 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shacherevtov. < 1468540933 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it covers everything helloy. < 1468540948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can do better than that < 1468540985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for example look up the word for "dawn" hth < 1468540986 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468541002 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :שהחרב טוב? < 1468541017 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( hmm... IRC doesn't seem to support RTL... ) < 1468541021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that certainly introduced an extra letter < 1468541040 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1468541046 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ה// < 1468541066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho science. < 1468541069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rho': Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho science. < 1468541083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think that's entirely dependent of your client setup. < 1468541091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure oerjan can make that work better. < 1468541107 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468541186 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1468541188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1468541203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1468541204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1468541224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is a meta rho logist? < 1468541235 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd shachaf//s#^shachaf#Shachaf of the Dawn# < 1468541238 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/shachaf//Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1468541247 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ? < 1468541260 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ceremoniously mapoles shachaf. 1.0 shachaf. < 1468541263 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the greek word for psychchology was...ψυχολογία < 1468541441 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's haiku by tia: < 1468541447 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't eat Taco Bell < 1468541457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only rent it for a while, < 1468541464 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it returns home. < 1468541744 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468541781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spots a shachaf luxon above. < 1468541790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they exist! < 1468541801 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joyluxon club? < 1468541811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn luxon < 1468541814 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "luxon". < 1468541844 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the wiki search < 1468541886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=luxon < 1468541918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Might I add that Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is an excellent name? < 1468541930 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to give this a try? matching are the top 10k passwords, non matching is 1k randomly gen'ed "passwords" between 5-10 alphanumeric http://regex.alf.nu/2fdfc932f94406a31682ca4f25b3588cb4ec2f66 < 1468541948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Smell is a sense, which is particularly strong in old factory sites. < 1468541961 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'smell': Smell is a sense, which is particularly strong in old factory sites. < 1468541973 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where the rho led me, and i had to follow it. < 1468541982 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? women < 1468541983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :women? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468542009 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Women smell better than men. (See also: 'smell') < 1468542013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'women': Women smell better than men. (See also: 'smell') < 1468542070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't lead you to trhondheim? < 1468542084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Akaibu: How many points do I aim for? < 1468542087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it, i'm already there < 1468542109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although trondheim _is_ good at new rho science, we got a nobel prize after all < 1468542116 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be blunt i just plugged in the word list of http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/73435/random-passwords-vs-common-passwords into the site < 1468542131 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with the shortest soultion there i got 97401 points < 1468542167 0 :zgrep_the_Slow!?@? NICK :zgrep < 1468542168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you press esc in the input field, your solution disappears. < 1468542173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't undo to get it back, < 1468542176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/./ < 1468542185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I definitely won't be trying again. < 1468542276 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i can recover it < 1468542284 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+z < 1468542291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't. Cmd-z < 1468542295 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+y to redo < 1468542306 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well rip < 1468542310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.vandoorn.talktalk.net/esoteric/ says "Read Fast" instead of "Real Fast" in one place. < 1468542379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb see tunes.org logs at 2016-07-14 at 16:25 hth < 1468542379 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468542436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why I did that. < 1468542475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download < 1468542477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is the most readable functional programming language out there. < 1468542637 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb * poke poke poke * you still alive? < 1468542637 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468542776 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily how goes the courging? < 1468542776 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468543057 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/rg/gar/ < 1468543177 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is hppavilion? < 1468543204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hppavilion[1] < 1468543206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. No es tan cluecless. < 1468543210 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hppavilion[1] < 1468543217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep higgledy wisdom < 1468543223 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is hppavilion[1]? < 1468543229 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hppavilion1:higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed < 1468543267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a scow double dactyl < 1468543283 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone seen hppavilion[1]? < 1468543299 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did hppavilion[1] die? < 1468543441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's alaskan, a grizzly or polar bear probably got him. < 1468543572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :polar bears are typically found in eastern europe hth < 1468543591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, shachaf < 1468543598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1468543601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's central europe < 1468543616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're confusing polar and polish. < 1468543625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, quite right < 1468543642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pun only works with the noun. < 1468543646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for clearing that up < 1468543682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1468543715 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :polar bears are found in the arctic circle < 1468543720 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they're called polar < 1468543733 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, does Alaska have that thing that like "night" but it lasts 6 months? < 1468543755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copolar bears live in antarctica < 1468543758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: technically only the poles strictly have that. < 1468543786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think that weather would be considered unusual in eastern europe hth < 1468543808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm pretty sure they have weather there too < 1468543817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(parsing is fun) < 1468543846 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't think midnight sun counts as weather per se. < 1468543859 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Sweden has that, kind of. Mainly it's that day is only a few hours long. But then in the summer the sun never goes down < 1468543894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if they *just* had long nights, no one would live there. < 1468543898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had to sweden the deal < 1468543939 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rimshot < 1468543940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rimshot: not found < 1468544082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically norway and alaska are about the same latitude. < 1468544091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means some parts have it, some don't. < 1468544095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the same attitude < 1468544213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the parts which do are not very heavily populated. < 1468544244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably even more so in alaska. < 1468545331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468545394 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468545719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's alive! < 1468545855 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1468545920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if adu and hppavilion[1] have entered the quintopia/boily zone < 1468545941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a zone? < 1468545948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it where we alternate who's online? < 1468545953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1468545957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1468545960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it right! < 1468546252 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the courging is on standby... < 1468546284 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will call it a night. can't focus... < 1468546297 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNDERRATED CHICKEN < 1468547269 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cut -b -3,5,7-9,11- <<< qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm # this prints bytes 1,2,3,5,7,8,9 and 11 to end of line < 1468547276 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwetuioasdfghjklzxcvbnm < 1468547289 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i do that efficiently? < 1468547417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't that efficient < 1468547421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1468547441 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i'm writing cut for that inutility thing < 1468547462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1468547475 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elixir keeps impressing me < 1468547499 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In surprising ways. It has lenses. < 1468547530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep a bunch of non-overlapping intervals for the parts of the file you care about, and either read or skip to the next boundary? < 1468547543 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Albeit it doesn't call them lenses, and defining them is a bit odd, and they also may have an additional capability that is like half of a prism which makes me go wtf) < 1468547619 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468547714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( PinealGlandOptic may be missing from lens ) < 1468547740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: does elixir have PinealGlandOptics twh < 1468547931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468548000 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :making them non overlap is annoying :( < 1468548016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what does the winchester hermit have to do with it < 1468548153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google union of intervals algorithm < 1468548154 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1034802/union-of-intervals < 1468548154 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Union of intervals - Stack Overflow < 1468548160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: try something like that maybe < 1468548188 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i was doing something like that < 1468549377 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1468550024 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've got a partially ordered set. Initially, every element of the set is labeled with 0. < 1468550056 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an algorithm you can perform on this set. < 1468550090 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, scratch the "initially all 0" bit. They're all labeled with integers, but not necessary 0. < 1468550152 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1: identify all pairs of two comparable elements which are labeled with the same number. Step 2: if no pairs were identified in step 1, stop. Step 3: for each pair identified in step 1, increase the label of the greater element by 1, and decrease the label of the lesser element by 1. Step 4: return to step 1. < 1468550191 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an odd kind of sorting algorithm, I suppose. < 1468550204 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the question. < 1468550233 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a shortcut for finding the result of this algorithm, which will give you the result faster than just naively evaluating the algorithm would? < 1468550360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does that necessarily sort < 1468550391 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1468550403 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all elements initially have different labels, the algorithm does nothing. < 1468550415 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, even if you start with all 0. < 1468550453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, an element in step 3 can be part of more than one pair, possibly on different sides. < 1468550470 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think no. Suppose the set is a > b, a > c, a > d, e > a. < 1468550486 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then after one iteration, a goes to 2, e goes to 1, b-d go to -1, and the algorithm stops. < 1468550502 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ends up with a higher label than e even though it's lesser. < 1468550508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't a go to 1. < 1468550512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1468550520 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; its label is increased 3 times and decreased once. < 1468550540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well. < 1468550574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea on your main question. < 1468550637 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably no easy way, since it's a somewhat complex and arbitrary algorithm. < 1468550646 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps one could even make a programming language out of it. < 1468550655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your task shall be to prove this PSPACE-complete hth < 1468550667 0 :debz!44cc1f06@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.204.31.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468550669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION evil grin < 1468550670 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :os < 1468550707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, -hard, it's obviously not a decision problem. < 1468550807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, there's probably some number that's increasing at each step, so not that hard. < 1468550846 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of steps so far is increasing at each step! < 1468550880 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468550896 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the algorithm guaranteed to terminate? < 1468550902 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks! < 1468550914 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so < 1468550920 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The label of a maximal element never decreases and the label of a minimal element never increases. So the spread never decreases. < 1468550921 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would need a cycle in the order to go indefinitely < 1468550954 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the spread increases indefinitely, then the size of the smallest gap tends to infinity. < 1468550961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the "spread" is the kind of number i was thinking of. < 1468550984 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if spread is the difference between highest and lowest numbers, it's not strictly increasing < 1468550991 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the spread does not increase indefinitely, the whole thing must cycle. < 1468550994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously there's a maximal possible gap. < 1468551026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a given graph. < 1468551034 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that so? < 1468551065 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, something just occurred to me. < 1468551076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so anyway. < 1468551095 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, something else just occurred to me. < 1468551106 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me go back to the first thing. < 1468551120 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could think of this as "moving tokens" between elements. Tokens only ever move from lesser elements to greater elements. < 1468551128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to increase an element, another element must be decreased, and there is a maximal amount for each. < 1468551141 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ah yes < 1468551143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they had to be equal to start with. < 1468551149 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so that guarantees termination < 1468551156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1468551164 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, not on its own it doesn't < 1468551205 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they never move "with the gradient". < 1468551218 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's an infinite supply < 1468551227 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for one element to decrease indefinitely < 1468551244 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must give charge to another element of the same charge < 1468551267 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that element must decrease indefinitely, and have two other infinitely decreasing elements to give it charge < 1468551276 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right. < 1468551286 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or some combination of other elements which give it charge faster than the first one takes it, anyway) < 1468551293 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, I never said that the set must be finite. But I was thinking it all along. < 1468551298 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :this turns into an infinite regression < 1468551311 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to concoct something weird with an infinite poset < 1468551320 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly it wouldn't necessarily terminate < 1468551337 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :just label each natural number with itself and set the charge of 0 to 1 < 1468551351 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :then each iteration just moves the excess charge to the next number < 1468551516 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1468551621 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468551668 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The algorithm isn't defined if an element has infinitely many elements which are greater or less than it. < 1468551801 0 :debz!44cc1f06@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.204.31.6 PART #esoteric : < 1468551822 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468552484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got the hydra with just 555 cuts < 1468553327 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468555266 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1468556104 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+3523 < 1468556110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​㔣 < 1468556246 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhyrrzlepxmbnvu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1468556589 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468556713 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1468556714 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1468557786 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/CuwF1d/raw is there any obvious problem with this? <.< < 1468557909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468558171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468559058 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468559343 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468559502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468560514 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii JOIN :#esoteric < 1468560537 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a object with functions is a struct < 1468560557 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :than what is an object without attributes < 1468560820 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1468560959 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that statement end with a question mark < 1468560999 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't know < 1468561038 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1468561259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think that makes no sense. < 1468561290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides. < 1468561291 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were discussing you, not me. < 1468561307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiliza < 1468561335 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I believe you, but why did you answer then? < 1468561350 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... but why did me answer then? < 1468561549 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hoped you know < 1468561707 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the statement "i don't know?" sounds like an introspective question < 1468561794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "introspective question" mean? < 1468561840 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't know?" seems like you don't know if you don't know. < 1468561884 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, is that what it means? < 1468561968 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has probably done the unhelpful question mark at points < 1468562010 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes zzo38 < 1468562049 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byubprwccbfflqty JOIN :#esoteric < 1468562068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all question marks are helpful, so there? < 1468562073 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you guys know the answer to my question < 1468562103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object without attributes sounds like something for the other kind of #esoteric. < 1468562114 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1468562119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1468562128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1468562133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe not the right one < 1468562135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1468562137 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1468562148 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :A featureless blob? < 1468562209 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make more sense if the first part was "If a struct with functions is an object" < 1468562217 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1468562245 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that statement end with a question mark < 1468562259 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm not sure how much I think that < 1468562269 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1468562272 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm questioning whether it's what I think < 1468562295 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think that makes no sense. < 1468562310 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you think no sense? < 1468562333 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were discussing you, not me. < 1468562368 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No we aren't < 1468562372 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is nothing but chat bots talking to each other endlessly < 1468562383 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1468562425 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine an object oriented language where their is objects with methods but no functions outside objects and no attributes but variables outside objects and no subroutines besides methods < 1468562480 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would call such an object a stateless "module", because there's no point to an object with no data attached. < 1468562487 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than to organize functions < 1468562499 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm understanding you properly, and excluding stuff like let-over-lambda trickery < 1468562538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there was ever a year for a third party to win the election, this is that year < 1468562573 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :if their is ever a year for glorious revolution this is the year < 1468562579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchokawaii: That too < 1468562587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchokawaii: Want to help me overthrow the US government? < 1468562597 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, I might just have to leave the county < 1468562598 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arise ye workers from your slumber < 1468562600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*country < 1468562600 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION actually kind of likes Hillary as President < 1468562612 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arise ye prisoners of want < 1468562632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I hate when people say "If X wins the election, I'm moving to [Canada|England|Russia|China|ISIS]" < 1468562633 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :For reason and revolt now thunders < 1468562647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But honestly, I really hate both major candidates < 1468562650 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :At last ends the age of can't < 1468562678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump is an abomination before god, and Hillary seems a little disturbing AND plays the gender card too much < 1468562691 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468562744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_ is cool. Trump is not cool. < 1468562775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, for me, it's not "If x wins the election I'm moving out" so much as "If any of the major candidates wins the election I'm moving out" < 1468562831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully, something bizarre will happen and Bernie will be nominated instead of Hillary (many of the states she won she only won because of already-bizarre and broken rules) < 1468562867 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would take something really weird for Bernie to get nominated, and there is *no way* he's running third party. < 1468562900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Even if he did run third party, is would be unlikely for him to win third party < 1468562919 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1468562921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Has third party EVER won, barring third parties that were actively becoming first or second party?) < 1468562930 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :He'd be splitting the Dem vote. < 1468562967 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1468563080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, that'd be a problem < 1468563091 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilary clinton was on the board of directors of walmart < 1468563097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchokawaii: Really? < 1468563110 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1468563152 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/31/clinton-remained-silent-a_n_84246.html < 1468563187 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't exactly pleased by Hillary, but of the likely candidates she's definitely preferable. < 1468563232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, found it < 1468563244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hillary is definitely the best option out of the major ones < 1468563259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Translation: Hillary is better than Trump, but that's not really an accomplishment) < 1468563272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I really would love to see Trump as president < 1468563283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only in the Seth Meyers Chicago President scenario < 1468563402 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck hilary clinton < 1468563407 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the clintons < 1468563456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchokawaii: Lewinski certainly took that advice to heart < 1468563482 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1468563497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, seriously, fuck Hillary < 1468563551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, the US should probably have had a female president by now (barring: Edith Wilson, possibly), but we shouldn't elect a woman solely to get that; we should elect a woman because her policies are something we want, and her reproductive organs are just a cool afterthought to the election < 1468563570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey, does this make her the first woman president?" "Oh yeah, I think it does, cool!" < 1468563678 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as though that's the only reason people are voting for her though. < 1468563693 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, many people genuinely *like* the Clintons. < 1468563707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but she plays that card far too much < 1468563713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, one time makes me a little uncomfortable < 1468563719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are compilations of her using that argument < 1468563769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also not a fan of Bill Clinton, because he made the policy that says if you have ever been convicted of a felony- no matter how minor, no matter if you served your time and changed- you can't get access to public housing (or numerous other government benefits, IIRC) < 1468564042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone actually attempted to realize the title text of https://xkcd.com/856/? < 1468564051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I'm freaking out now < 1468564395 0 :Nithogg_!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1468564520 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1468564996 0 :Anarchokawaii!~connor@unaffiliated/anarchokawaii PART #esoteric : < 1468567682 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468568355 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468570365 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468570545 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1499:c062:5363:c79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468571290 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1468571290 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1468571297 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1468571311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1468571322 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A web page isn't loading < 1468571343 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. agreed, hmm. < 1468571459 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf I no longer update that one, https://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/esolangs.html is canonical < 1468571459 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468571471 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I'm fairly sure I'm alive < 1468571471 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468571528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb ok, but it's the third result in https://encrypted.google.com/search?q="real+fast+nora's+hair+salon+3:+shear+disaster+download" < 1468571540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb maybe you should add a redirect or something < 1468571560 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf that might be a good idea < 1468571560 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468571566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1468571566 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 5s ago: that might be a good idea < 1468571575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm right here, you don't need to tell lambdabot to tell me things. < 1468571581 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I do < 1468571594 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, hmm < 1468571600 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mouse seems to have stopped working < 1468571601 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again < 1468571621 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, technically you need to. < 1468571626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you don't need to need to. < 1468571757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when are you visiting north america again? < 1468571769 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometime after August < 1468571802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have an upper bound? < 1468571840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1468571961 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I do have a Rubik's cube < 1468572085 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented Fueue? < 1468572092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fueue < 1468572097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1468572098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fueue? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468572100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1468572111 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think esolangs count as tanebventions < 1468572132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/sub/the/Fueue, the/ < 1468572133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 11: unknown option to `s' < 1468572140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/the/Fueue, the/ < 1468572146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1468572149 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? Because you actually invented them? < 1468572165 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're more like pieces of art < 1468572184 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is necessity. < 1468572189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention D-modules. < 1468572198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe D-modules are gone from Tanebventions. < 1468572204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were the centerpiece. < 1468572209 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: maths < 1468572212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1468572235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it ruined the whole meter (or is it metre?) of the wisdom entry. < 1468572244 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I previously had it set to music, in my head. < 1468572275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How quickly can you solve your Rubik's cube? < 1468572330 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My best is 1 minute 40 < 1468572359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used to solve in around 2 minutes. < 1468572369 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was over a decade ago, of course. < 1468572381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When oerjan roamed the Earth. < 1468572396 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess he trondheims the Earth now.) < 1468572403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I even remember how to solve it now. < 1468572413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably could figure it out. < 1468572701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events includes, towards the very end, actual legit predictions < 1468572726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future < 1468572732 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call those "dates" exactly. < 1468572792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! We're in the middle of a jubilee! < 1468572798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: By that logic, neither is carbon dating < 1468572841 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, just did it in 1:55 < 1468572876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you still want magic: the gathering jams < 1468572877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised it doesn't include the day we past the Point-Of-No-Return for expenditure of resources and destruction of planetary integrity < 1468572882 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe it's in the past one) < 1468572921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That link I posted is pretty depressing. < 1468572922 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, can you make M:tG into jam? < 1468572934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's already a jam. < 1468572946 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't you need to add pectin? < 1468573016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe so. < 1468573019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you know what? < 1468573026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nth century is confusing < 1468573039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The years from 1 to 99 will henceforth be known as the "0th century" < 1468573057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all subsequent centuries will be calculated using all but the last 2 digits < 1468573063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're in the 20th century right now. Thre. < 1468573067 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*There. < 1468573139 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might find it hard to gain adoption for your idea, hppavilion[1] < 1468573155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yeah, well... < 1468573158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you're right < 1468573160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1468573163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's stupid. < 1468573177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia often mixes them in the same paragraph, which leads to confusion < 1468573223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine: "In 1604, a manuscript quoting a late 16th-century physician..." < 1468573232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prays that he got those in the right order < 1468573329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the world is definitely not going to end this year < 1468573361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *is* confusing. < 1468573367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people are elitist about it, too. < 1468573383 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], not many words rhyme with "sixteen" < 1468573384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They learned that "xth century" means "the century whose first two digits are x-1" < 1468573408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now they look down on anyone who forgets that or finds it difficult to do in the middle of a conversation about something else. < 1468573411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain elitism. < 1468573641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Plane Elitism < 1468573657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just because you're a circle means you're better than everybody else. < 1468573664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, Jesus... < 1468573690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just sent a message to Trump's campaign and gave him some new crazy shit to say. I hope someone reads it and passes it up xD < 1468573765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/rights-exempt/nat-geo-staff-graphics-illustrations/2016/07/juno/01-juno.ngsversion.1467724642813.gif < 1468573774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're really not a fan of your capital city, huh < 1468573820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not particularly, and it's going to get worse in November (or January, I guess) < 1468573827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That gif is amazing < 1468573836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't even spell it right < 1468573851 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's just nasa < 1468573904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1468573909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can't I spell right? < 1468573916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1468573926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did I spell something wrong? You're freaking me out < 1468574761 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1468574763 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-07-15 08:26:02.086582000+00:00 < 1468574770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1468574999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEEEEEEEEEEEPPPUKKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1468575071 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning to you, too < 1468575483 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish doesn't use "Nth century", we use something that's a bit akin to e.g. "1800s", "1900s" and so on. < 1468575571 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: All the people I've seen use both, so... < 1468575586 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, that's much easier than the crazy measurement units people use here, where the amount of meat you ask can be eg. 20 decagrams, 40 decagrams, or half a kilo, all measured in whatever unit gives the shortest pronunciation < 1468575610 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just ridiculous < 1468575642 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well, we never use the "Nth century" form. < 1468575658 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except Google Translate apparently does, if you ask for English-to-Finnish. But it shouldn't. < 1468575670 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the scales print slips saying eg. "200 g", "400 g", "500 g" because the crazy units are no longer shorter in writing < 1468575806 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 200 such a long word in relation to 20? < 1468575825 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, where is "here"? < 1468575856 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bioethics < 1468575857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bioethics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468575899 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well no, I guess "400 grams" would actually be shorter than "40 decagrams" < 1468575905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not strictly the shortest version < 1468575926 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you say "40 decas"? < 1468575990 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here we use "kilo" for "kilogram" when shopping... so why not do the same for decagrams (a unit, that fortunately, isn't fashionable here)) < 1468576093 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, and to complicate the issue, depending on the sentence it may be in two different cases, which also affects which one is shorter, by one syllable < 1468576145 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: where is "here"? < 1468576196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... < 1468576199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was another attack in france? < 1468576216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Hungary < 1468576261 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: another compared to what? there was one yesterday evening < 1468576316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The one in paris a few months ago < 1468576324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a logo with the French flag in it on... a site < 1468576348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I assumed it was an anniversary of an attack < 1468576372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I initially thought Paris, but it felt like it couldn't be Paris because it was way too recent) < 1468576385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... yeah, another one < 1468576392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one was in Nice < 1468576427 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1468577580 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1468577891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468578604 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468580980 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468581100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468582009 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468582277 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468582493 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468582706 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1499:c062:5363:c79 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468584328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/4rwwqh/what_if_the_united_states_had_made_the_mistake_of/ seems to be doing well < 1468585004 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SOUL CHICKEN < 1468585050 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468585141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu! < 1468585149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have broken the quinboily cycle! < 1468585174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I'm free! < 1468585174 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1468585177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu? < 1468585182 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppavilion < 1468585498 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hey < 1468585518 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what is a quinboily cycle? < 1468585522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1468585526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We alternate who's online < 1468585535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because earlier today I got online just before you logged off < 1468585544 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1468585622 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I haven't seen you in at least a month < 1468585679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1468585755 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's new? < 1468585926 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468588131 0 :flok420!~folkert@185.31.230.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468588369 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Flok 5* 10New user account < 1468588405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48887&oldid=47344 5* 03Flok 5* (+253) 10/* Optimizing implementations */ < 1468588611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468589215 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468589611 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host31-52-247-186.range31-52.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468590309 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468591059 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468591266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468591728 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468591760 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1468591819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we need a 1.5th world < 1468591837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To describe living in the first world, but in the shitty part (e.g. you're a black ex-con) < 1468592615 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468592820 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the way I was tought was that 1st world = Americas + Europe, 2nd world = Asia (e.g. Russia, China), and 3rd world = Africa < 1468592867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Technically, the 1/2/3 comes from first world = U.S. and allies, 2nd world = USSR and allies, 3rd world = neutral < 1468592916 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then my teacher was dumb < 1468593012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now, 1st world is developed countries and 3rd world is shitty countries < 1468593032 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what's the 2nd? < 1468593102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: We kind of dropped it < 1468593118 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's just plain confusing. My guesses were: Britain? Spain? Turkey? Alternate universes where Mirai Nikki is streamed to TVs to show what will happen to the world if the omnipotent government falls? < 1468593186 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: the 2nd dissappeared when the USSR did < 1468593217 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that'll be option 4 then. < 1468593258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want cyrillic alphabet soup < 1468593318 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик < 1468593364 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Russian or Serbian? I'm still not convinced that "cyrillic" is a single script other than for political and historical reasons. < 1468593379 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's two scripts. < 1468593399 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Latin is a script < 1468593404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: yes < 1468593424 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: almost every european language is written in Latin < 1468593486 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Latin is a script, including even the extra-high version the Vietnamese language uses, because in a Hungarian text people use the original spelling of any proper nouns if its original spelling is in the Latin script, but transcribe it by pronunciation instead if it's not in the Latin script. That is my criterion for considering something a single script. < 1468593511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468593527 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russian text typically transcribes Serbian or Macedonian names, rather than using the original form, because it's not really the same script. < 1468593629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two are just treated the same script for some historical reasons (probably originally political), and it's very impractical to change that now, because there are shittons of text from both script encoded in the overlapping set of unicode characters, and every software expects those characters and uses different fonts for them depending on the language. < 1468593663 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vietnamese isn't written in Latin < 1468593671 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: what < 1468593683 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it usually is, these days < 1468593697 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there used to be a kanji script for it, but it's barely used now < 1468593715 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vietnamese can be written in Latin, just as any syllables can, but Vietnamese should be written in Han/Kanji < 1468593734 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: yes, and Serbian can also be written in two different scripts... it's complicated < 1468593758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care what it *should* be written in, but it's very often written in Latin script < 1468593939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, xkcd phone 4 is better than xkcd phone 3, because in xkcd phone 4, battery is included < 1468594094 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 headphone jacks sounds like quite a lot. < 1468594116 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And why is it in groups of 5/2/5? Design reasons?) < 1468594140 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1468594205 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468594290 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a display that stings you < 1468594293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect security feature < 1468594345 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: no, I think it's behind plexiglass so it doesn't, unless the screen breaks < 1468594379 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, the battery is non-rechargable??? < 1468594395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be a good feature actually, then people wouldn't buy the too expensive phones that they can't afford to replace when the display breaks and keep using with a broken display. < 1468594407 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yes. < 1468594419 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp, useless < 1468594435 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, it will be in about 5 seconds < 1468594441 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :micro-amp-hours < 1468594504 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the headphone jacks are probably to run some sort of super laser system < 1468594555 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...unless you have any better ideas? < 1468595645 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use for recording on a tape < 1468595987 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 3 headphone jacks are useful so you don't have to disconnect the speaker while you're copying a game from one casette to another easily. < 1468596057 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/useful/convenient/ < 1468596085 0 :flok420!~folkert@185.31.230.94 PART #esoteric :"Looking for an alternative to irssi/x-chat? Check f-irc! http://www.vanheusden.com/fi/" < 1468596187 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have external tape recorder you will need only those to copy a tape, but if the tape stores digital data then maybe it will be useful to go through a computer first in order to reencode the data to avoid lossiness, maybe < 1468596200 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468596226 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that, and also the computer can find the start and end of the file more easily than you can through hearing < 1468596248 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468596259 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you do not want to copy the entire tape. < 1468596278 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the computer can verify the data is OK. < 1468596301 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And of course, while you are doing this, you can have 5.1-channel music going on to pass the time.) < 1468596311 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: barely. the parity bits maybe. I don't think there's any more advanced error-correcting code on the casettes. they're not CD-rom. < 1468596336 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ah yes, true! you wear 5.1 sided headphones for that and listen with your 5.1 ears < 1468596344 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468596352 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and watch the 6D movie on the screen < 1468596353 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually it would probably involve a compass) < 1468596398 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not actually sure what the purpose of 5.1 is, really) < 1468596440 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't understand is, does this have an internal modem, and if so, where do you plug in the TP telephone cable, otherwise where do you plug in the serial cable? < 1468596457 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a parallel port on the bottom, so... < 1468596466 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably find some way of converting serial to parallel < 1468596470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1468596478 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, that port does imply the phone is REALLY big < 1468596515 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need an USB modem < 1468596525 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and plug it in the USB E port < 1468596533 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I don't see a USB port on it < 1468596542 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the USB port is on xkcd phone 3 < 1468596549 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468596556 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...must be a removed feature < 1468596722 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity that the onboard cloud doesn't look like a cloud < 1468596752 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a reference to the magic smoke < 1468596834 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh, another xkcd phone < 1468596871 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.E. the stuff that pops out when you ![-]++++[->++++<]>[-<+++++>]-----.--.+++.. a chip < 1468596998 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that was meant to be fake random terminal noise, but for some reason I got bored and decided to write brainfuck instead. And I got it wrong, too... < 1468597022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: why is it wrong? it looks right except it's all uppercase < 1468597024 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-250-231.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1468597034 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I see you added the missing '<'? < 1468597048 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1468597053 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you need a < < 1468597064 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1468597526 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an experiment in how simple a bytebytejump could be hardware-wise... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/minibp.circ < 1468597874 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have Logisim in my computer < 1468597887 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make the PNG of it? < 1468597889 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1468597948 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have an unzip program? < 1468597952 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just checking) < 1468597990 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have 7-Zip. But shouldn't just the PNG be OK? < 1468597999 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 3 circuits. < 1468598009 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One main one, and two sub-circuits < 1468598032 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1468598053 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because as messy as it is I did try to modularize it a bit... < 1468598055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/minibp/data.zip < 1468598127 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1468598169 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In additon to 7-Zip of course I also have the standard UNIX utilities (such as tar), and also har (which I wrote by myself), and gzip (which also is included with this computer) < 1468598176 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"har"? < 1468598187 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-ejioffqteczaopyu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1468598213 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/prog/har.c < 1468598240 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is used to deal with Hamster archives < 1468598250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other programs exist but they aren't very good) < 1468598268 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what byte order is being used in this... < 1468598280 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing that's the format's fault? < 1468598288 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is the format's fault. < 1468598298 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, the byte order is the PDP byte order. < 1468598316 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-matvgmwokpjwchgo JOIN :#esoteric < 1468598370 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is not a very good byte order, but that is how Hamster archive works.) < 1468598378 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That byte order would probably break most C applications nowadays :) < 1468598392 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they support little-endian, they support big-endian, but I bet they don't support PDP-endian < 1468598452 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can easily implement any of those three ways in a C code though, independently of the native endian of the computer. < 1468598484 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such thing is needed anyways because it is different for different file formats and protocols. (Many file formats and network protocols use big-endian.) < 1468598554 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure some people fread into a struct buffer and then switch the ints around, which is fine for the standard endians, but not good if the computer is anything "unsupported"... better to do what you do in har.c and get/put each char individually < 1468598570 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-erivlrprzsbuiscy JOIN :#esoteric < 1468598579 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-matvgmwokpjwchgo QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468598587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I always do when dealing with external files/protocols though. < 1468598657 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really did not know this was a thing in C. "['0'...'9']=1" < 1468598666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is a GNU extension < 1468598692 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that not only gcc but also clang supports GNU extensions, so you will be able to use clang too if you want to) < 1468598696 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting, new kernel < 1468598967 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468600143 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1468600156 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468601486 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if __GNUC__ && ! __clang__ < 1468601488 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define UNUSED(x) do { __auto_type __unused __attribute__((unused)) = x; } while (0) < 1468601490 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#else < 1468601492 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define UNUSED(x) (void) x < 1468601494 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :#endif < 1468601496 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this? < 1468601530 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with (x) instead of x < 1468601605 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a workaround for gcc that still warns me that i'm not using stuff < 1468602043 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I just use the -W to select which warnings I want < 1468602336 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1468602371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: If you use fread/fwrite directly on some struct buffer should be OK if it contains no pointers and the file is used on the same computer; some of my programs do that but only when the file is not intended to be portable to other computers. < 1468602397 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1468602857 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468603023 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? link < 1468603025 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hyperlink < 1468603061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperlink? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468603061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468603175 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468603437 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? overworld < 1468603439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overworld? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1468603457 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468603742 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1468603837 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The overworld is an alternative name for the world map, used by players of the Zelda video games. < 1468603853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'overworld': The overworld is an alternative name for the world map, used by players of the Zelda video games. < 1468603903 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, hydraz is here. Makes sense. < 1468604014 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, watch the Super Amazing Wagon Adventure video from this SGDQ, the commentary makes it very hilarious. < 1468604311 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468605866 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :K-Lined < 1468605994 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1468606081 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468606155 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468606387 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:15a5:53b3:6a77:fa31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468607122 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468607178 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what did you do?! < 1468607376 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1468607932 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468608078 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"K-Lined"? ... < 1468608080 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds bad < 1468608194 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :K-lining is a (semi-?) permanent server ban, so yeah pretty bad < 1468608817 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468608948 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@cor91-7-83-156-198-158.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1468609286 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily the "real" b_jonas is still alive... < 1468609287 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1468609468 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not his fault anyway... the wob version is using some web client. < 1468610306 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468611204 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1468611231 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468611548 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: problem with that? < 1468611562 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-msvxyspoksvvbupk PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydraz: No, it's just that if you weren't here, I was going to point you in this direction. :P < 1468611605 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hehe < 1468612037 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : K-lining is a (semi-?) permanent server ban, so yeah pretty bad < 1468612046 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a server ban but not a network ban? < 1468612075 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh yeah, that's right < 1468612078 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1468612539 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :on freenode they're the same < 1468612893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the web client is a problem < 1468613211 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1468613219 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode doesn't like web clients other than its own < 1468614565 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:15a5:53b3:6a77:fa31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468614712 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1468615874 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468616318 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1468619070 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1468619074 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1468619077 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling like I'm a not very good programmer today < 1468619087 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :only today? < 1468619097 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't think about it yesterday < 1468619336 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah, "today" was attached to "feeling" rather than to the second "I'm", I guess < 1468619460 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8a5:a8ed:dbd5:909e JOIN :#esoteric < 1468619474 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1468619689 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I looked at job adverts < 1468619700 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they all seem to require skills I don't have anything near < 1468619703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, job adverts are scow. < 1468619709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sorts of skills? < 1468619724 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being able to program in Java, for one < 1468619741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, don't take those jobs, because Java is scow. < 1468619755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also you could probably learn Java pretty easily. < 1468619763 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1468619775 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have difficulty comprehending large systems < 1468619799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an important skill for professional programmers, I guess. < 1468619806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it usually takes a while as far as I know. < 1468619851 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have no idea what I'm going to be doing, like, from this time next year < 1468619861 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468619862 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 355, in track_join) < 1468619865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither hth < 1468619903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you considered moving to california < 1468619923 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sopel is a simple, easy-to-use, open-source IRC utility bot" hmm. < 1468619941 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is there opportunity for a funded PhD placement in functional programming, category theory, or group theory in California? < 1468619959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, probably < 1468620032 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example at stanford people are doing some things < 1468620061 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall hearing that PhDs in the US take a lot longer than PhDs everywhere else < 1468620067 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure if that's true or not < 1468620088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think undergraduate degrees take longer. < 1468620091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about PhDs. < 1468620103 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here they generally take about three years) < 1468620105 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What PhDs require you to be able to program in Java? < 1468620112 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java PhDs < 1468620122 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing? < 1468620133 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the ones this uni does, actually < 1468620141 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468620142 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 360, in track_join) < 1468620142 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a research group into Enterprise programming < 1468620194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Houston, we have a *broken* unidentified Python IRC bot. < 1468620207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a Star Trek thing? < 1468620214 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, alas, no < 1468620243 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMS Enterprise < 1468620245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Enterprise < 1468620248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many Enterprises < 1468620251 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[WIKIPEDIA] HMS Enterprise | "Fifteen ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Enterprise (or HMS Enterprize) while another was planned:HMS Enterprise (1705) was a 24-gun sixth rate, previously the French frigate L'Entreprise, captured in May 1705. She was wrecked in October 1707.HMS Enterprise (1709) was a 44-gun fifth rate..." < 1468620258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even some Enterprizes < 1468620260 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least it's trying to be useful < 1468620270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MigdaliaDufrane6: please don't do that twh < 1468620285 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sopel" < 1468620294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's the name of the site-package < 1468620297 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bot. < 1468620320 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. https://sopel.chat/ < 1468620332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. /whois < 1468620348 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would've been too easy. < 1468620361 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much more fun to google the python package name. < 1468620393 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but it doesn't do https? http://sopel.chat/ < 1468620412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you recommend getting a phd < 1468620435 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I haven't tried it yet < 1468620437 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean to < 1468620446 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not for everyone, I'm aware of that < 1468620453 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other kinds of degrees that you'd recommend? < 1468620473 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integrated Masters are pretty neat < 1468620499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should go work with fizzie in london < 1468620521 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could work, maybe < 1468620531 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's personal policy to not live in London < 1468620547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1468620558 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The air pollution gets to me < 1468620567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :London has air pollution? < 1468620588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1468620602 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't everything have air pollution these days? < 1468620605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1468620609 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did when I went back in like 2005 or so < 1468620616 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a bit ill from it < 1468620652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s/ p/the Hodge star operator, p/ < 1468620652 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1468620657 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointless topology: Alexander Armstrong and Richard Osman are homeomorphic < 1468620658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma,the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1468620665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1468620681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s/,t/, t/ < 1468620684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1468620699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a lot of personal policies not to live in places. < 1468620706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do your policies permit you to live? < 1468620712 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of Europe < 1468620725 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada, certain parts of Australia, New Zealand < 1468620728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vancouver, BC? < 1468620736 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that is in Canada, so yes < 1468620744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, anywhere in Canada? < 1468620747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1468620750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Greenland? < 1468620755 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1468620856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you should move to Toronto. < 1468620885 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an idea! < 1468620890 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could go to York University < 1468620958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe start a new new York Haskell Compiler project. < 1468620969 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: come to UW! < 1468621003 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah, which UW < 1468621005 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the University of Washington is good. < 1468621007 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a whole bunch < 1468621013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Taneb has a personal policy not to live in Washington. < 1468621020 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I do < 1468621021 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1468621023 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: university of waterloo < 1468621030 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The list I sent wasn't exhaustive < 1468621031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, it's in the US. < 1468621047 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't, Washington is near-ish Newcastle < 1468621078 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Washington/@54.9033022,-1.5531291,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x487e64c8cbe0fc97:0xa8135c37990656ba!8m2!3d54.897432!4d-1.517366 < 1468621080 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See < 1468621084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Newcastle is inside Washington: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle,_Washington < 1468621096 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1468621124 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah, I mention York University because I am currently sat here in the University of York < 1468621167 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are two very different places < 1468621168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think your Washington isn't named after George Washington. < 1468621181 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I think your George Washington is named after Washington < 1468621199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Named after due to being a descendant? < 1468621216 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ahh < 1468621228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the University of York would be much older. < 1468621239 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, surprisingly, it's like 4 years younger! < 1468621246 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say something about how it should be called the University of Yore. < 1468621249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no. < 1468621253 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of Young < 1468621262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are young universities in the UK. < 1468621270 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like Warwick < 1468621299 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think every person in this channel who is a student at a UK university, the university was founded in the 1960s < 1468621302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I recommend moving to the Washington, the state. < 1468621315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lived there myself for a number of years. < 1468621411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1468621415 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extra article. < 1468621422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Washington has some advantages over California. < 1468621427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, it has a lot more water. < 1468621431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's no state income tax. < 1468621462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google california income tax brackets < 1468621463 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator < 1468621477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1468621480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google california state income tax brackets < 1468621482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tax-brackets.org/californiataxtable < 1468621482 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: California Income Tax Brackets 2016 < 1468621488 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host31-52-247-186.range31-52.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google corewar < 1468621488 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_War < 1468621501 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone I lived with last year lived in California for a year < 1468621511 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host31-52-247-186.range31-52.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfffft... still not #1 on Google :-( < 1468621625 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But come October I'm gonna start applying for PhDs in like a whole bunch of everywheres < 1468621633 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468621763 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally I'd get a funded place somewhere interesting in the UK, EEA, or AUNZ, or Australia or New Zealand < 1468621766 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I won't need to get a visa < 1468621791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it was in the US and you got a student visa? < 1468621809 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that would be almost as good < 1468621835 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a student visa come with universal healthcare < 1468621869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think students often get healthcare from the university they attend. < 1468621899 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1468621905 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be convenient if true < 1468621940 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coup in turkey: Erdogan addresses the nation via skype on a phone held up to the news camera < 1468621957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very presidential < 1468621997 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems a regime barely holding on < 1468622017 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile the military says they have seized control and are fighting the turkish police in the streets < 1468622099 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sputnik news claims Erdogan is trying to get out of Turkey via ataturk airport < 1468622114 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we happy or not for the coup in turkey? < 1468622128 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just came home and know barely anything about it < 1468622152 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... the military *claims* they are seizing control to protect human rights < 1468622168 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good to me < 1468622183 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And certainly a lot of people in Turkey and the rest of the world are tired of Erdogan's bullshit < 1468622273 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :NBC's reporting that erdogan is requesting asylum from germany now < 1468622365 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah, I'll definitely add UW to my list of places to think about < 1468622392 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what area would you be looking to study? < 1468622436 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah, Functional programming type things, ideally < 1468622442 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly category or group theory < 1468622444 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm < 1468622452 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure UW's the best school for that honestly < 1468622458 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a place I can apply to < 1468622462 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is! < 1468622467 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I aim to cast a wide net < 1468622470 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want algebra, try the pure math department < 1468622473 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just CS < 1468622516 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good point < 1468623021 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468623028 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1468623028 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 355, in track_join) < 1468623075 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know a interpreter for underload that is in node.js? we (yes, there are 3 others working on it, with solace at the head of the project) are making a bundle of buildin interpreters for it < 1468623085 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]oh < 1468623092 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to mention this is for hbot < 1468623093 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1468623105 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: anything type theory like is definitely more suited to PM at UW than to CS as well < 1468623891 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google pm uw < 1468623892 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.pce.uw.edu/certificates/project-management < 1468623905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb ought to get a PhD certificate in project management < 1468624362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a project... how would you manage it... < 1468624399 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "Pure" Mathematics. < 1468624469 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python < 1468624472 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[WIKIPEDIA] Python | "Python may refer to:..." < 1468624484 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1468624484 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 360, in track_join) < 1468624542 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MigdaliaDufrane6: go away < 1468624588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turkish army are withdrawing from Iraq < 1468624830 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1468624843 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1468624844 0 :MigdaliaDufrane6!~sopel@89.28.115.169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeyError: Identifier('#esoteric') (file "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/sopel/coretasks.py", line 360, in track_join) < 1468624919 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wrote this shitty bot? < 1468625057 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:8a5:a8ed:dbd5:909e QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1468625092 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1468625181 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python < 1468625230 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MigdaliaDufrane6: who are you? < 1468625273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is it related to JenElizabeth8 ? < 1468625375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is MigdaliaDufrane6 a big red dog? < 1468625595 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does underload have a proper way of inserting comments? < 1468625887 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host31-52-247-186.range31-52.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use (comment)! < 1468626502 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-250-231.xtpr.umontreal.ca QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1468627158 0 :moon_!4c014add@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.74.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds