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< 1468628472 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byubprwccbfflqty PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit off topic, but does anyone here know how to actually read the javascript cpu dumps you can gen from google chrome's devtools?
< 1468628572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know you could get them.
< 1468629793 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic_!
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< 1468631557 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people write stuff like this? auto main () -> int { ... }
< 1468631584 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: do you really want to know?
< 1468631592 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes?
< 1468631626 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current guess is that it makes code look more c++ish
< 1468631680 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how bad parsing C++ is, right?
< 1468631690 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of it
< 1468631701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more regular.
< 1468631701 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :never actually tried to write a parser
< 1468631712 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem comes back to C actually
< 1468631718 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but C++'s various features just make it way worse
< 1468631732 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. i * foo;
< 1468631737 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a declaration or an expression?
< 1468631745 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1468631752 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only correctly determine by knowing whether i is a type name or note
< 1468631753 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not
< 1468631779 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the complexities of C++'s template system mean that in order to determine whether something is a type or not, you need to be able to resolve templates and overloading
< 1468631827 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... so... why not write int main () { ... } ?
< 1468631846 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, in templates, you often want to write a type that depends on the templated types
< 1468631851 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. operator + (T a, T b)
< 1468631862 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want this to return a + b
< 1468631877 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't just write decltype(a + b) as the return type
< 1468631904 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you used to have to do a bunch of crazy template gymnastics
< 1468631911 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that involved making fake values of types
< 1468631958 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :to solve this at the language level, they added late-specified return types
< 1468631968 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have the weird syntax they do because they wanted consistency with lambdas
< 1468631982 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some people also want it to be a uniform one-size-fits all syntax
< 1468631987 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's why they declare functions using that as well
< 1468632143 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't write auto f () -> void { ... }
< 1468632153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?
< 1468632154 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow
< 1468632223 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you can't?
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< 1468632239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, yes you can.
< 1468632293 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elixir's Access.all violates lens laws :(
< 1468632302 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed you can't because e.g. in this snippet http://stackoverflow.com/a/38398485/2815203 they declare two functions with auto f (...) -> type and a void function with the old syntax
< 1468632322 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your point was that they do it for consistency
< 1468632329 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that looks inconsistent to me
< 1468632413 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iex(29)> [[{0, 1}]] |> get_in [Access.all, Access.all, Access.elem(0)]
< 1468632414 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[0]]
< 1468632425 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make me pull out the standard
< 1468632450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, referral link
< 1468632455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ain't clicking that
< 1468632494 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38393694/how-to-generate-nested-loops-at-compile-time second answer here
< 1468632535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that's doing so I can't tell whether it violates any laws.
< 1468632629 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[{0, 1}]] is in Haskell terms [[(0, 1)]]
< 1468632641 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get_in is a function for using Elixir's lens-like things
< 1468632658 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Access.all targets all elements of a list. Access.elem(0) targets element 0 of a tuple
< 1468632661 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that's just inconsistent usage
< 1468632666 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
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< 1468643089 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you chan serv
< 1468643098 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so good to me
< 1468643693 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/free-pokemon.htm
< 1468643704 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't this exactly against what net neutrality is supposed to be for?
< 1468644619 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1468644716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07FOSCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48897&oldid=48895 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+879) 10/* Documentation */
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< 1468650439 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the essence of strength is sneaking stuff across composition, what is the essence of choice?
< 1468650574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sneaking mposition across costuff
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< 1468651548 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need help with pipes
< 1468651557 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/RbnWnM/raw this works at least on linux
< 1468651574 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can send 256mb in a single write, and get the data back in a single read
< 1468651607 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is linux is being clever and it's super unportable?
< 1468651627 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is linux being*...
< 1468651778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the problem?
< 1468651812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting to be bounded by the pipe buffer size
< 1468651823 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect that it's atomic.
< 1468651834 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1468651838 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point
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< 1468652840 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: This is Linux being nice is all. PIPE_BUF is the amount that's guaranteed to be atomic, not the maximum read or write size.
< 1468652862 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux is permitted to, and apparently is in this case, letting you work on significantly more data.
< 1468653136 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :// comments on the same line as a #define unnerve me.
< 1468653146 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logically, I know that comments are removed in translation phase 3, but it doesn't help with the feeling.
< 1468653255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let it faze you
< 1468653279 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, POSIX on pipes: "A write request for more than {PIPE_BUF} bytes shall cause one of the following: When at least one byte can be written, transfer what it can and return the number of bytes written. When all data previously written to the pipe is read, it shall transfer at least {PIPE_BUF} bytes."
< 1468653310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think izabera's program really ought to check what the write/read calls return.
< 1468653331 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess it does the memcmp. Well, still.
< 1468653333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true for most programs that issue write/read calls.
< 1468653335 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't look at the program. Yes, it really should.
< 1468653374 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a quick poc
< 1468653412 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, PIPE_BUF is a guaranteed minimum that will be transfered, not a maximum.
< 1468653474 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, then i'm using this to implement dd
< 1468653475 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A magical multi-exabyte pipe buffer would be a valid implementation even without PIPE_BUF matching.
< 1468653482 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dealing with ibs != obs is annoying
< 1468653509 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if that'll work correctly.
< 1468653521 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd... is kinda defined pretty precisely in POSIX.
< 1468653536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered that unix is scow
< 1468653564 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, but all other popular OSes aren't even scows.
< 1468653573 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes you think it wouldn't?
< 1468653575 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't*
< 1468653579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything popular is bad
< 1468653599 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: The kernel is perfectly permitted to restrict you to just PIPE_BUF buffers.
< 1468653643 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :kernel is being nice to me so it would be stupid not to use it
< 1468653664 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel is being nice to you today. The kernel is within its rights to not be nice to you tomorrow.
< 1468653692 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a pretty serious regression
< 1468653704 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it wouldn't. PIPE_BUF is the interface contract.
< 1468653739 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh fine i'll do the buffering
< 1468653746 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write broken code against what you pretend is the interface instead of the documented interface, you get to keep both pieces.
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< 1468655382 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to discard data without reading it from a non seekable device?
< 1468655390 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :device/fifo/whatever
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< 1468662444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New self-screening pickup line: Give a girl (or boy) your number- your Erdős number
< 1468662486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, "new" in that I just learned it; Zack Weiner invented it in 2013 or something)
< 1468662730 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written any papers yet :(
< 1468662773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Hurry up and do it with someone with a finite Erdos number
< 1468662784 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rings the esobell
< 1468662795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone in this channel have a finite Erdos number?
< 1468662799 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1468662838 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know oerjan does, I'd be very surprised if none else does
< 1468662840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Whom?
< 1468662844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1468662901 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *live* with someone with a finite Erdõs number
< 1468663002 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 6, but that's something
< 1468663109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 7 is good for entry-level
< 1468663168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt anyone ever had an initial Erdos number of 1, except maybe 1 Ramanujan-level genius
< 1468663192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, is Ørjan Johansen a common name in Norway?
< 1468663204 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1468663215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense
< 1468663227 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The English equivalent is something like George Johnson
< 1468663234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes
< 1468663267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because in a late-night would-be-but-am-not-actually-drunk session of trailing, I found someone- perhaps a minor celebrity, if only of a medical variety- named Ørjan Johansen
< 1468663290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, well, Pål-Ørjan Johansen)
< 1468663321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a quote from him talking about how he managed to quit smoking and drinking
< 1468663337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By starting MDMA and psychedelics
< 1468663379 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:c8e7:e901:509a:f7c6 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468663552 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a while since I've had much in the way of alcohol
< 1468663562 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wine with dinner when I've been on holiday
< 1468664254 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c47:d14b:16cb:35ea QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1468664883 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibcicjxhdvyojvsj QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1468664904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well-known in here, of course.
< 1468664917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan
< 1468664935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
< 1468665023 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5187:1147:c215:cedd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468665040 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468665064 0 :lynn!?@? NICK :Guest5944
< 1468665671 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i recommend sticking with ethanol hth
< 1468665837 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468665881 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is esoteric programming
< 1468666033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Napejts
< 1468666037 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Napejts: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1468666048 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how can i use this languages?
< 1468666208 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, browse https://esolangs.org/ a bit until you find something that has a link to an implementation and appeals tou you, then try it out?
< 1468666257 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :theny we are they languages without links?...
< 1468666258 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1468666261 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why
< 1468666372 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may still be interesting from a theoretical perspective... Also some languages are created by people who like writing examples and/or specifications and hope somebody else will implement them.
< 1468666459 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :really nerds stuff...
< 1468666550 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks god its non-capitalistic
< 1468666818 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys and gals. i can not decide to use unity or unreal engine?
< 1468666822 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i testes both...
< 1468666859 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are almost the same.. except UE gives better graphics.. but less tutorials.. unity has a lot tutorials... but not so good graphic... and unreal has visual scripting called blueprint.... unity has only c#
< 1468666886 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468667175 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468669711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1468670028 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468670337 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1468672399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468675031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1468675374 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@25.70.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector
< 1468678492 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468680587 0 :Napejts!~Napejts@HSI-KBW-109-193-208-007.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de PART #esoteric :"Bye, bye, Folk of #x!"
< 1468680839 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468681645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468683046 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468683151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1468683207 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1468683330 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB
< 1468683330 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 161400Z 06011KT 040V110 30SM FEW020 SCT070 SCT240 19/12 A3001 RMK CF1AC2CI1 SLP164 DENSITY ALT 600FT
< 1468684126 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468684383 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1468684545 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: BREAKING CHICKEN
< 1468684727 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468685089 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468686524 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1468687421 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1468687558 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468689217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468689539 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468690711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1468691649 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468691750 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily!
< 1468691754 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1468691760 0 :ivancr72!5a4dcdca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.77.205.202 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468691765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm blinde
< 1468691839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, the python bot got k-lined.
< 1468691859 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm?
< 1468691926 0 :Guest5944!?@? NICK :lynn
< 1468691928 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 18 hours ago... it was broken, spamming the channel with errors when people joined.
< 1468691943 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv QUIT :Changing host
< 1468691943 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468691943 0 :lynn!sid154965@unaffiliated/lynn QUIT :Changing host
< 1468691943 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468692039 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's op here?
< 1468692119 0 :ivancr72!5a4dcdca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.77.205.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1468692121 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who's often here should become op
< 1468692143 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quote chanserv access #esoteric list
< 1468692152 0 :ivancr72!5a4dcdca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.77.205.202 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1468692159 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quote chanserv access #esoteric list
< 1468692163 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing happened
< 1468692197 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get notices (not privmsg) from chanserv
< 1468692220 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may not be very prominent. (I get them in the "server log" window in irssi)
< 1468692253 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not work because the correct command is "cs access #esoteric list"
< 1468692261 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was jk but you're not fun
< 1468692309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "chanserv" as a raw command definitely works
< 1468692422 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I think there was no way to tell that that was supposed to be a joke.
< 1468692466 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that works too, although "cs" is also valid
< 1468692468 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not in the right mindset
< 1468693429 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468693723 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1468693758 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone want an op
< 1468693767 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud
< 1468693767 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 1d 6h 9m 52s ago: I'm free!
< 1468693801 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: we have 3 active ops, the problem might be that we're all in the timezone.
< 1468693834 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas all the american ops left us.
< 1468693862 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course my timezone is ridiculously messed up so _shouldn't_ count anyway.)
< 1468693970 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in the same timezone
< 1468693990 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's stealing my words
< 1468694013 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1468694249 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : The English equivalent is something like George Johnson <-- i think "George" is a bit too common for comparison. my last name is considerably more common (as in 2nd place in norway) than the first (although neither is rare.)
< 1468694265 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you're right if you're thinking cognates.
< 1468694284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you suggesting that there's more than one time zone?
< 1468694307 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :next you'll tell us that Earth is not a disc but approximately spherical...
< 1468694331 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* it's that time of day when the sun shines straight onto my sofa... fortunately that ends in about seven minutes.
< 1468694360 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there are more timezones in heaven and in earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy
< 1468694372 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1468694375 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now check quotes
< 1468694409 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty close.
< 1468694461 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'«‹›»'"
< 1468694464 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh the spammer was about this time of day, wasn't e.
< 1468694486 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1468694548 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :‷‶‵′″‴ <-- beautiful (but not quotes)
< 1468694558 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps it was just bad luck. although i'm not _usually_ here at that time. although that day i was away for a different reason than usual.
< 1468694581 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not that kind of quote.
< 1468694658 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so sad, Unicode is devoid of any quintuple stuff.
< 1468694686 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⁗
< 1468694703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom
< 1468694716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+2057 QUADRUPLE PRIME]
< 1468694716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_//mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW)
< 1468694737 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1468694745 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ridiculous, everyone knows quadruples are not primes
< 1468694784 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a *4 prime, it's a prime so awesome they had to mention it 4 times
< 1468694786 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: wat wat?
< 1468694806 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that nsfw?
< 1468694836 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg mroman_
< 1468694849 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric : learn_append mroman_ (NSFW) \ learn mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure.
< 1468694857 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1468694860 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :235) actually the first joke i thought elliott was making was that he's so small masturbation is gay pedophilia
< 1468694866 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ask mroman hth
< 1468694883 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1468695190 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan
< 1468695193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it.
< 1468695208 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, http://www.bash.org/?311375
< 1468695285 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm afraid it's probably based on a graphic interpretation of the underscore.
< 1468696008 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (here we use "kilo" for "kilogram" when shopping... so why not do the same for decagrams (a unit, that fortunately, isn't fashionable here)) <-- heh in norway we use(d) kilo, and also hekto, but not deka.
< 1468696070 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow deka isn't really used as a prefix either.
< 1468696119 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :desi is, though, with liter.
< 1468696989 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I'm too stupid for this "Snakebird" game.
< 1468697000 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: snakebird is too good
< 1468697023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has some hard puzzles.
< 1468697134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I'm not failing completely... but 45 or so solved levels the remaining one are really quite hard...
< 1468697172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many levels are there?
< 1468697239 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :51 I can predict (45 numbered ones, and 6 in the clouds...)
< 1468697310 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, they count from zero, so 52. and there might be another one in the center... or many other ones on the surrounding islands. I don't know :)
< 1468697335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Did you play Stephen's Sausage Roll?
< 1468697379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1468697403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also a puzzle game with difficult puzzles.
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< 1468697680 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like robozzle
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< 1468698647 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp, there's work on a JS version
< 1468699916 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg
< 1468699928 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not.
< 1468699959 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append tg This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp.
< 1468699966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tg': TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp.
< 1468699979 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wat.
< 1468699985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: are you going to roll any sausages
< 1468699988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: read it again hth
< 1468700024 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not any time soon, I believe
< 1468700193 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.
< 1468700194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1468700212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
< 1468700213 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tgtgtgtg/This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp.
< 1468700217 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tgtgtgtg»
< 1468700590 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tc
< 1468700596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tc? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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< 1468700607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. perhaps something with total control?
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< 1468701457 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh maybe there was a new spammer
< 1468701527 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other two ops tend to take a bit of weekends off, me thinks.
< 1468701599 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only solution is for fizzie to move to mountain view
< 1468701616 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly.
< 1468701630 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or san francisco
< 1468701658 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could lock down the channel during the night... hehe.
< 1468701781 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins evilly
< 1468701925 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever written any procedurally generated techno music?
< 1468701958 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the demo scene all way through the 80s and 90s, would be my guess.
< 1468702005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably not quite the way you want; I'm using the term "procedurally generated" in a fairly loose sense)
< 1468702331 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people in scandinavia pronounce Java as "Yava"?
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< 1468702470 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: by default, yes.
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< 1468702496 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think this is not a case where insisting on english pronunciation is likely.
< 1468702533 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since the island is already pronounced that way.
< 1468702599 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that how the _a_s are pronounced will vary between scandinavian countries.
< 1468702662 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, slighly anyway.
< 1468702693 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, anywhere between en:far and en:bad
< 1468702754 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iiuc, norwegian uses approximately the former, danish approximately the latter, and swedish one of each.)
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< 1468702945 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about C++?
< 1468703032 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"se pluss pluss" in norwegian, anyway. like each character in order.
< 1468703043 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i suppose i mean "dynamic, adaptable, 'infinitely' novel procedural generation"
< 1468703057 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I was wondering if the C would differ
< 1468703077 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the name of the +
< 1468703091 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. the vowels are different, though.
< 1468703093 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :シープラスプラス
< 1468703100 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you record yourself reading the names of the top twenty most popular programming languages for science?
< 1468703141 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may be slightly biased there: i have not actually _heard_ norwegians pronounce most of them, so i _could_ be wrong.
< 1468703141 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would do it for you
< 1468703166 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, what are they?)
< 1468703197 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html
< 1468703212 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :top 18 is close enough
< 1468703292 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how norwegians pronounce the # in C#.
< 1468703349 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(likely just using the english word.)
< 1468703505 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :here i read them and you can just tell me where you would differ: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-0NVE9E8UJieVUxeXJaNnVpYk0/view?usp=sharing
< 1468703613 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think describing it would do.
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< 1468704067 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: more seriously, googling "procedurally generated music" turns up enough results that I'm pretty sure this has been tried, at least, perhaps successfully. and on a far less serious note(no pun intended), I thought all one needs for techno is a simple while loop.
< 1468704166 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: https://clyp.it/zwo2wql3
< 1468704216 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of those are somewhat guesswork.
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< 1468704564 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm pretty sure i've heard many of them too. Perl, Matlab, Basic (maybe not with the visual), C, Javascript, Python and Java, at least.
< 1468704597 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and C++.
< 1468704655 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks that selection pinpoints his age a bit :P
< 1468704750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the one at 0:22 after Visual Basic?
< 1468704800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see.
< 1468704806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see quintopia's recording.
< 1468704853 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: VBA, which i'm pretty sure i've never heard a norwegian say, so it's just the letters in order.
< 1468704885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's recording is very General American.
< 1468704893 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously.
< 1468704901 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't GA that much.
< 1468704918 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can GH, i'm sure
< 1468704944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really.
< 1468704950 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have you reached the point where you have a noticeable accent in both languages
< 1468704951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a noticeable accent in every language.
< 1468704976 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures.
< 1468705004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't think GH is a thing.
< 1468705023 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IH then.
< 1468705280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can tell that I don't know how to pronoucne things because I'd pronounce "Delphi" like oerjan rather than like quintopia.
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< 1468705365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's pronunciation is more Norwegian than I thought. I'll have to rethink my pun strategy.
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< 1468705410 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it is. it's how we pronounce the greek place name.
< 1468705431 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i assume the PL would be the same.
< 1468705473 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what does this have to do with your pun strategy
< 1468705479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it's spelled ∇ɸ
< 1468705488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er.
< 1468705490 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so.
< 1468705496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∇φ
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< 1468705538 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δελφοί hth
< 1468705542 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I thoght ∇ was pronounced "nabla"?
< 1468705550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del
< 1468705572 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the one that surprised me the most was the "H" in "PHP"
< 1468705584 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: indeed. iirc there's a student organization in Oslo by that name.
< 1468705589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two that I couldn't figure out initially were Python and VBA.
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< 1468705598 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well that's also just the letters in order.
< 1468705615 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just didn't know that was the norwegian way to say H
< 1468705619 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1468705623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me that I should learn differential geometry.
< 1468705675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I encountered nabla when I took Analysis II and larned some stuff about manifolds
< 1468705767 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah the pronouncing "th" as /t/ rather than /þ/ threw me as well
< 1468705791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's pretty common in transliterating English words to other languages.
< 1468705791 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i started trying to learn diffgeom once.
< 1468705823 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes but "other languages" wouldn't normally include "nordic languages" in my mind hth
< 1468705846 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nabla f is the gradient of a scalar field f, nabla dot v is the divergence of a vector field v, and nabla cross v is the curl of the vecotr field
< 1468705901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's some rule where a nabla of another nabla gives zero
< 1468705902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: your preconceptions about nordic languages are a thorn in your side hth
< 1468705951 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'd call them "conceptions" since i've actually been to all those countries and had some luck in translating the signs hth
< 1468705955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Pft. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/10574/how-do-i-make-the-conceptual-transition-from-multivariable-calculus-to-different makes me want to skip over that whole thing.
< 1468705971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i just wanted to make a pun hth
< 1468706000 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: these days i just assume you work a pun into every message, even when you're being totally serious hth
< 1468706005 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: https://clyp.it/uwzhgvhr btw it's in my dialect, the "standard" pronunciation has more closed e's in many letters.
< 1468706013 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not in e itself)
< 1468706091 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds very...spanish-like. except, again, the H. still have no idea on that.
< 1468706120 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: norwegian has no /þ/ so that's a given, sometimes even when pronouncing things loosely "as english".
< 1468706195 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the H is explained by that at some point in norwegian history, long a (á) turned into å.
< 1468706229 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :several other vowels are also sort of "rotated" a bit.
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< 1468706346 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: en:thorn = no:torne so it checks out :P
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< 1468706383 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe without the e. hm that might vary.
< 1468706588 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cognates to english th tend to have t or d, or sometimes nothing at the end of syllables (which may or may not be written as a d)
< 1468706817 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thou -> du, three -> tre, there -> der, bath -> bad, and i'm having trouble thinking of a silent one that actually has an english cognate...
< 1468706926 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :old norse had /þ/ or /ð/ there, of course.
< 1468707569 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moon_ Anyone know a interpreter for underload that is in node.js? <-- i think there's a JS one linked from the esolang page, at least.
< 1468707569 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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