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Comments section 00:34:50 -!- boily has joined. 00:35:15 -!- moon_ has changed nick to moonythedwarf. 00:35:29 -!- moonythedwarf has changed nick to MoonyTheDwarf. 00:36:00 -!- MoonyTheDwarf has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:36:15 -!- moon_ has joined. 00:36:37 -!- moon_ has quit (Client Quit). 00:36:50 -!- MoonyTheDwarf has joined. 00:38:17 -!- centrinia has joined. 00:41:41 * boily pokes MoonyTheDwarf 00:42:04 * MoonyTheDwarf jumpscares boily 00:44:55 * boily topples over in a formless mass 01:02:40 -!- B1ood6od2 has joined. 01:03:50 poor thing 01:05:16 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 01:08:00 [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Ais523 * blocked [[User:91.231.140.161]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled, email disabled): spambot; it can't get past the spam filter but it's rather spamming up the spam filter itself 01:11:20 -!- ais523 has joined. 01:11:32 -!- B1ood6od2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:13:00 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 01:15:53 How ironic 01:21:33 -!- B1ood6od2 has joined. 01:23:54 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 01:30:05 -!- derHummer has joined. 01:35:17 A CPU is essentially an abacus, no? You set a number on this row (mem location), another there, you operate on both numbers, you put the result on that row (register), you make a register of of other numbers (other mem locations) . . . both devices, abacus and CPU, are registers (registers of registers, ad infinitum); memory and a stepper processor. 01:36:45 -!- Zarutian_ has changed nick to Zarutian. 01:37:51 conceptually, elementary step-by-step processing, linear processing. 01:39:20 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:39:28 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 01:40:11 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 01:44:30 aside from processing speed and RAM capacity, how is a CPU different from an abacus? 01:45:24 derHummer: even the simplest CPUs have registers /and/ an ALU; an abacus just has registers 01:45:59 and arithmetic/logic is up to the human user rather than implemented in the abacus 01:49:19 -!- nisstyre has joined. 01:49:19 -!- nisstyre has quit (Changing host). 01:49:19 -!- nisstyre has joined. 01:49:59 you hire 1,000 abacus operators ... there's your CPU. ok, 900,000 operators ... 200 million (unemployment is high these days). Point is that conceoptually / functionally, we still have the step-by-step processing. 01:50:52 err, or the ALU, rather 01:51:40 now I'm imagining what an abacus with an ALU would look like 01:51:53 something like, when you had enough beads at the bottom of one column 01:52:02 they'd rise up to the top and drop one bead from the next 01:52:13 yes, indeed 01:52:15 that'd be a half-adder, one of the simplest arithmetic components 01:52:54 but any complexity could be implemented in a wire/bead abacus ... given enough care 01:53:14 you'd need a power source 01:53:16 but I think it's doable 01:53:19 s/complexity/algorithm/ 01:53:40 the operator's finger 01:53:47 I think you just end up inventing the Analytical Engine if you go too far along these lines, though, don't you? 01:56:39 something like that; essentially the key is writing down the algorithm; then you give one page of the book to each abacus operator. But that's just talking the mechanisms of the thing. But the concept, the functional idea, is the thing. What else is different about a CPU---leave aside the electronics. 01:57:17 a modern CPU, or a conceptual one? 01:57:27 a modern CPU 01:57:36 I'd say an abacus is an excellent analogue for a set of registers 01:57:43 so the differences are all the things that aren't just registers 01:57:52 instruction scheduling, caches, and the like 01:57:53 well, the concept informing a modern CPU. the von Neumann architecture 01:58:18 does a CPU even have to know which memory architecture it's using? 01:58:43 I mean, if it's using the same signals to communicate with code and with data, then it has to be von Neumann 01:58:48 for its own correct funtioning, yes, probabley 01:59:12 but in general, an old/traditional CPU doesn't need to care about the details of how memory works 01:59:32 look at the 6502 and old NES games; many of them had hardware which automatically swapped between multiple RAMs and ROMs 02:00:02 exploiting the fact that the CPU didn't care that it was connected to memory, just that it'd get particular responses if it sent particular requests 02:00:59 yes, the hardware don't matter; not as far as correctness of computation schema 02:01:27 I mean, to a certain extent, a system needn't /have/ a memory architecture, really 02:01:52 I'm imagining a device that streams values to a CPU's memory read port 02:01:53 sliding beads on a wire is a "memory", no? 02:01:54 from a recording 02:02:16 yes, it's what's known as distributed memory, or as a register 02:02:22 because it isn't addressable 02:02:31 yes, register 02:03:12 streaming values sounds like a punched tape, or ibm punched cards 02:03:45 but punched cards were the memory storage of the day ... the "floppy disks", lol 02:04:37 oops ... afk ... bbl ... 02:18:33 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_Parser_Framework#Example compiling this example takes several seconds... 02:18:36 time to learn yacc i guess 02:18:51 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:26:13 -!- boily has quit (Quit: HONORABLE CHICKEN). 02:30:35 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 02:31:30 -!- ais523 has joined. 02:33:25 -!- tromp has joined. 02:43:59 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:45:38 -!- ais523 has joined. 02:47:03 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:50:46 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 02:51:23 -!- augur has joined. 02:51:47 -!- ais523 has joined. 03:44:42 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:55:19 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 03:59:45 The more complex the computation, the more powerful the computation. (solves more complex unknowns.) Sonds like a good axiom to come up with leading edge apps? 04:02:52 hahaha 04:03:17 :) whut? 04:10:15 I only solve for real unknowns. 04:19:33 -!- ais523 has quit. 04:19:40 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 04:48:09 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 04:48:10 ...huh 04:48:16 Everything eventually goes back to Bell Labs 05:06:55 -!- nisstyre has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.5). 05:11:27 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:12:45 I was trying to figure out Cthulhu's family tree 05:12:49 I created infinite recursion 05:12:53 Figures 05:15:13 I'm watching the beach volleyball 05:15:43 is there an actual difference in the rules between beach and regular volleyball? 05:17:18 if only there was some sort of encyclopedia that anyone could put this information on 05:17:22 oh wait 05:17:25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_volleyball#Rule_differences_between_beach_and_indoor 05:22:11 -!- tromp has joined. 05:31:07 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 05:32:20 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Client Quit). 05:39:08 -!- tromp has quit. 05:40:31 -!- tromp has joined. 05:41:46 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:12:49 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:14:36 -!- oerjan has joined. 06:26:39 the logs are informing me that shit haååens. 06:26:41 -!- FireFly has quit (Changing host). 06:26:41 -!- FireFly has joined. 06:42:19 -!- tromp has joined. 06:47:03 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:53:36 please recommend me a great pdf reader 06:54:09 i usually use zathura which supports vi keys to navigate 06:54:36 but it's being insanely slow with a pdf with almost 4k pages 06:55:14 despite being based on mupdf, and mupdf renders that file instantly 06:56:45 ooh mupdf has vi keys 06:56:52 why did i use zathura at all? 06:58:12 it's a mystery 06:59:47 ooh mupdf does very fancy transitions between pages when it's in presentation mode 06:59:54 this is so nice 07:00:08 and so useless 07:00:19 ok i'll never use this, it just slows down things 07:23:25 -!- derHummer has quit. 07:29:45 I think you just end up inventing the Analytical Engine if you go too far along these lines, though, don't you? <-- . o O ( every sufficiently overengineered calculation device is indistinguishable from a computer ) 07:31:47 -!- callforjudgement has quit. 07:32:24 my jokes seem to be repelling their targets today. 07:36:46 einstein developed a theory about space 07:36:50 and it was about time too 07:47:40 Apostasy is not apostasy. 07:47:47 it was relatively fancy. 08:20:17 -!- FireFly has changed nick to EvilFly. 08:34:02 -!- tromp has joined. 08:37:58 -!- EvilFly has changed nick to FireFly. 08:38:28 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:42:45 -!- tromp has joined. 08:47:15 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 08:53:08 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:56:44 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 09:46:52 -!- MoonyTheDwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:51:27 -!- B1ood6od2 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 09:53:38 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 10:23:12 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:48:23 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:49:50 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:01:12 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 11:16:49 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:34:17 -!- boily has joined. 11:35:50 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 11:46:54 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 11:52:04 helloily 11:54:44 hellørjan! 11:55:09 boily: what was it like when the time travellers had to flee the Morlocks, but couldn't agree on past vs. future? 11:56:33 eh? 11:56:46 it was a tense situation hth 11:57:05 * boily *THWACKS* oerjan. 0.95 shachafs. 11:57:17 darn i was hoping for more. 12:00:12 * int-e idly wonders where oerjan's standard timezone is currently located 12:00:30 @time oerjan 12:00:33 Local time for oerjan is Mon Aug 8 13:00:30 2016 12:00:39 hth 12:00:44 (personally I'm somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic) 12:00:44 -!- lleu has joined. 12:00:51 oerjan: that doesn't answer my question. 12:01:07 surprisingly enough, i got up at 7 AM today 12:01:30 it's one of those rare days of apparent synchronization. 12:01:35 oh, synchornized for once 12:05:22 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:08:27 [wiki] [[Talk:Black]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49096&oldid=8485 * Keymaker * (+958) Need help with a Black interpreter. 12:12:34 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 12:28:43 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 12:30:38 -!- boily has quit (Quit: STRING CHICKEN). 12:33:06 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 12:59:07 -!- Akaibu_ has joined. 12:59:10 -!- Akaibu has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 12:59:11 -!- Akaibu_ has changed nick to Akaibu. 13:11:28 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 13:22:54 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 13:23:16 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 13:30:49 -!- B1ood6od2 has joined. 13:34:03 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 13:43:32 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:43:52 [wiki] [[Wct]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49097&oldid=41864 * Mihip * (-1243) 13:46:19 [wiki] [[Talk:Wct]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49098&oldid=41871 * Mihip * (+138) 13:47:10 -!- byteflame has joined. 13:50:05 [wiki] [[Wct]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49099&oldid=49097 * Mihip * (+725) Added example 13:50:28 [wiki] [[Wct]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49100&oldid=49099 * Mihip * (-8) 13:52:50 -!- baordog has joined. 13:52:54 -!- baordog has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:10:03 -!- B1ood6od2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:11:29 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 14:32:07 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 14:34:15 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 14:35:54 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Client Quit). 14:40:07 -!- `^_^v has joined. 14:42:12 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 14:43:24 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 14:44:15 -!- b_jonas has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 14:59:37 -!- B1ood6od2 has joined. 15:02:53 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 15:13:11 -!- b_jonas has joined. 15:32:02 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 15:34:08 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 15:45:34 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 15:46:34 -!- MoALTz has joined. 15:54:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:00:47 -!- kragniz has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:29:29 -!- Zarutian has joined. 16:30:57 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 16:32:38 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 16:41:30 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 16:47:16 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:33:29 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 17:34:47 [wiki] [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49101&oldid=47311 * Weux082690 * (+245) /* Joke/Silly Ideas */ Emacs = Communism for Programmers 17:36:08 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:39:25 -!- atrapado has joined. 17:51:55 -!- FireFly has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - http://znc.in). 17:52:33 -!- FireFly has joined. 17:55:58 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:58:31 -!- B1ood6od2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:03:07 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 18:46:30 -!- augur has joined. 19:11:41 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:12:32 -!- Zarutian has joined. 19:16:55 hello 19:17:28 Hello. 19:18:12 whats new 19:22:09 -!- tromp has joined. 19:26:34 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 19:33:34 hundreds of trillions of human skin cells, just today 19:41:07 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 19:50:19 -!- cnr has quit (*.net *.split). 19:50:27 -!- cnr has joined. 19:50:27 -!- cnr has quit (Changing host). 19:50:27 -!- cnr has joined. 19:55:26 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:55:55 -!- augur has joined. 20:00:48 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 20:01:43 -!- centrinia has joined. 20:04:53 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 20:08:12 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:09:00 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:14:11 -!- B1ood6od2 has joined. 20:16:34 -!- paul2520 has joined. 20:17:28 -!- augur has joined. 20:17:29 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 20:17:52 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 20:19:56 Sigh, the GG story is branching out like a hydra. At this rate I will not live to see it finish. 20:20:51 cut the dire necks first 20:20:53 start from the top 20:20:55 hth 20:21:33 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:21:52 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 20:21:53 I would but all they gave me is the "forward button", which is a very blunt tool. 20:23:39 -!- B1ood6od2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:28:37 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 20:59:35 int-e: GG? 21:00:34 -!- B1ood6od2 has joined. 21:00:37 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:04:10 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 21:04:17 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:05:27 -!- `^_^v has joined. 21:18:19 -!- dos has joined. 21:19:05 -!- jaboja has joined. 21:22:05 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 21:26:23 -!- B1ood6od2 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:35:49 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 21:40:47 -!- dos has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 21:47:58 -!- contrapumpkin has changed nick to copumpkin. 21:59:00 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:03:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:06:15 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 22:06:40 -!- `^_^v has joined. 22:07:22 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 22:27:19 -!- byteflame has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:27:54 Ugh 22:28:51 I hate it how YouTube (though it may be the fault of the YouTubers, but I doubt it) has it so, if a video is uploaded in 720p60 or 1080p60, you can't watch it at normal 30fps in HD 22:29:44 is there a reason to use 30fps aside from smaller file? 22:46:26 -!- boily has joined. 23:14:47 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 23:19:03 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:20:55 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 23:33:34 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:43:44 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:47:11 -!- boily has quit (Quit: BOY CHICKEN). 23:49:13 -!- augur has joined. 23:50:32 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 23:52:28 nortti: Local hardware might be incapable of rendering at 30fps, but could at 60fps. 23:52:45 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:55:21 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 23:56:23 -!- clog has joined. 23:56:56 -!- B1ood6od has joined.