< 1470009685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, maybe we should start storing Ozone that we can fire into the atmosphere when needed < 1470009935 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure, it already includes http://oeis.org/A107357 and http://oeis.org/A053169 < 1470009974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, that's the original phrasing of the puzzle. < 1470009990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: But it turns out that Wikipedia is wrong, and it says "universality" instead of "non-universality". < 1470010020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. universality is coNP-complete < 1470010180 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470010214 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470010299 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, I saw that clarification yesterday, thanks! < 1470010389 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470010391 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470010987 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470011585 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470011647 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you pronounce ///? http://esolangs.org/wiki//// < 1470011660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slashes" < 1470011801 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1470011814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1470011822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Xnuk < 1470011839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Xnuk: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1470012032 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470012577 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470012585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, Goonies never say "die" < 1470012598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They must have a hard time playing DnD with English majors < 1470012670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think English majors are particularly pedantic. < 1470012683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But surely they have trouble playing in German. < 1470012712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned that fact from The Onion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAa8Rf_a_Mo < 1470012878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :de:die is not a homophone of en:die hth < 1470012941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1470012949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you think it's the latter than they never say? < 1470012965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that they speak English and not German, the former seems more likely. < 1470012965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i have no idea what goonies are. < 1470012981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google goonies < 1470012983 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089218/ < 1470012983 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Goonies (1985) - IMDb < 1470013043 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. this travel insurance actually has a price per day that isn't an integer number of HUF. you rarely see that nowadays. < 1470013073 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things are rounded to integer HUF, except for very cheap things like per minute prices of mobile phone calls. < 1470013158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUF is what came before HUG? < 1470013180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, 1 HUF < 0.01 USD < 1470013202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even 0.01 USD is too fine-grained for most things. < 1470013273 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that uncommon for currencies to be similarly overly-fine-grained though. < 1470013304 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure, which is why the smallest cash coin is 5 HUF, and most bank transactions and similar are restricted to multiples of 1 HUF, but prices can still be fine grained even though they're usually multiples of 1 HUF for cheap things and multiples of 10 HUF for expensive things. < 1470013310 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 KRW < 0.001 USD, for example. < 1470013331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How fine-grained should stock prices be? < 1470013336 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have prices to high resolution and round for the whole transaction. < 1470013394 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470013399 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, the KRW no longer has 1 KRW coins in circulation... < 1470013400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until 2001, US stock prices were measured in sixteenths of a dollar. < 1470013406 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now they're measured in cents. < 1470013437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the finest granularity. < 1470013465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called the tick size, and there are all sorts of trade-offs for deciding what it should be. < 1470013475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems silly to have the same tick size for expensive stocks and cheap stocks, though. < 1470013516 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470013654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, the price of gas (petrol) for cars is shown per liters, and is usually shown as a multiple of 0.001 or 0.01 HUF. The price of household water and sewage in this location is 469.06 HUF per cubic meter. < 1470014279 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470014345 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470014445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1470014970 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470015392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1470015432 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1470015436 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1470015497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I declare the winner of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0 [Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 2.] to be Richard Stallman < 1470016521 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470016579 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470016832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470017522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470017574 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470017575 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3873:b107:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470018208 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470018454 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470018503 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bizarre-proof-to-torment-mathematicians-for-years-to-come/ < 1470018507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a greater mummy behind khufu... holy fungot I didn't see it... < 1470018508 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: next it unveiled the latest to benefit of any party other than ena also sold more to do the right thing on the sidelines for any period. if you have not had any more. < 1470018511 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, almost like the proof is bad code? < 1470018529 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm still alive! < 1470018530 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for complete information on the first is the pulmonary injury by capacity and fuel to the rate to a policy what policy: " section vii of the bond, the treasurer of each company < 1470018806 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, not alive. got berserk and petrified at the same time. < 1470019307 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: APPEARANCE CHICKEN < 1470020372 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470021820 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Or code written in a programming language that nobody understands except Mochizuki < 1470021853 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think it would be pretty hilarious if this was all an elaborate troll < 1470022357 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470022482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470022849 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are computer proofs written in languages that nobody else understands < 1470022877 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proofs work when you check them, but no one knows why < 1470024099 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3873:b107:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470024887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470025866 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470026063 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470026256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470026336 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470026949 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470027863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470028994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1470029014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is late. < 1470029411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's too easy for alt+5 to slip and become alt+f4==instakill app <-- that's pretty much how my hydra died, except with fn instead of alt. < 1470029449 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, killing the hydra was the goal, right? < 1470029454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and f5 instead of 5, probably. < 1470029460 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not quite that way. < 1470029484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: picky. just be happy the goal was accomplished < 1470029499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKANEVER < 1470030014 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You cracking stuff? < 1470030054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only GHC hth < 1470030231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lout < 1470030231 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470030245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lout < 1470030245 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470030250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1470030263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe there was a ^O. < 1470030662 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my Linux system though, ALT+F4 has no special use. (When in text mode, it switches to screen 4, but in X you need CTRL+ALT+F4 to switch to screen 4.) (But I think the default window manager and desktop environment for Ubuntu does use ALT+F4 and some other stuff similar to Windows to make it easier for Windows users, but I have uninstalled those things.) < 1470031035 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470033227 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470034570 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bad idea to watch love live and fly an airplane at the same time < 1470034597 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i crashed into a mountain < 1470035014 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1470037171 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470037174 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1470038115 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooom < 1470038271 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470038292 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470038591 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh crap it happened < 1470038675 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching anime and --oh shit I've actually been to that exact place in tokyo where the character's standing! < 1470038691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: okay, in the end I think membership in coNP is easier than coNP-hardness. (I don't know an NP-complete problem that embeds naturally) < 1470038713 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really weird feeling of deja vu < 1470038780 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you call deja vu induced by a cartoon < 1470038829 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470038897 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"deja toon" < 1470038999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I found an article that has a reduction from 3SAT < 1470039056 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for arbitrary CNFs or is the size of clauses actually used? < 1470039062 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever drew this must have been sketching from the balcony of the McDonalds that overlooks Shinjuku < 1470039123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd work for arbitrary CNFs? < 1470039172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm typing on my phone at the train station. Will probably be able to say more later. < 1470039229 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then it may be doing a similar thing to what I've dreamed up. < 1470039230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the coNP argument is probably something like "raise the adjacency matrix to the nth power" < 1470039243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it is < 1470039453 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the current Schlock Mercenary story arc would fit perfectly under "Force Multiplication". Too bad that book title is already taken within the series :P < 1470039490 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to run a game in a way that people can play it all together through telnet. How should i do this? Im thinking bash < 1470039581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what MUDs are for. < 1470039624 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to hae fun by haveing a bunch of people play a single instance of dwarf fortress over telnet < 1470039713 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitch plays Dwarf Fortress? < 1470039723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1470039729 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :And good luck getting that going over telnet... < 1470039742 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putty then < 1470039744 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470039781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could screen or tmux work that way? < 1470039786 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress is a graphical program (even when not using graphical tiles). < 1470039789 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470039796 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has text mode < 1470039802 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S does mac < 1470039821 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1470039824 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1470039837 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since what version? < 1470039842 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change the graphics setting from 2D to TEXT < 1470039851 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, long while < 1470039896 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not mistaking the normal (non-tiles) mode for an actual console-based mode? < 1470039904 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1470039910 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used it over ssh < 1470039955 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i helped develop a discord bot that has a selfupdating (message ediT) emulated terminal, it could display df too < 1470039968 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot hasent been on for a while < 1470039971 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is news to me, then. < 1470039975 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470040000 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how would i broker it using bash, i have ncat (that comes with nmap) if that helps < 1470040117 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, documentation says, "primitive ncurses output". You are correct. < 1470040150 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd probably want to use whatever it is that nethack@alt.org uses, let me see what it's called. < 1470040165 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, single game instance < 1470040173 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im nit running a hoard of df lo, < 1470040176 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you want everyone controlling one instance, right, not just providing it as a service? < 1470040181 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1470040191 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just use screen, then. < 1470040242 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what would i do with the screen? I need to know how to broker it < 1470040263 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure what you mean by broker here. < 1470040291 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be a server, transmit the games data to the users and give the game their input < 1470040346 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're just connecting multiple terminal endpoints to the same program and sending that all the input from all the terminals? < 1470040372 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm lol < 1470040410 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470040537 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just have everyone connect to the same screen session, I suppose. < 1470040597 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i dont know how i should do that in bash, or is there something about screens i dont know < 1470040619 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need to involve bash at all. < 1470040664 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should i use? Node.js and C++ are my main kanguages, am i just looking at this wrong? < 1470040699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470040715 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what part of it you feel requires any programming. < 1470040744 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi hppavilion[1] . < 1470040757 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloon < 1470040886 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know a good way to allow multiple people to telnet to a system and use one instance of a prgram, in this case dwaf fortress? < 1470040933 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was wrong with my suggestion? :/ < 1470040979 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really just dont get how im going to USE the screen. < 1470040996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he means "screen", the program. < 1470041019 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, i dont know what to do with it afterwrds < 1470041047 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So people log in and then all connect to the same screen session. Their input is all sent to whatever's running in it, and they all see the output of whatever's running in it. < 1470041062 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem: open server < 1470041093 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you run Dwarf Fortress inside screen, then people log in, and attach to that screen session. < 1470041109 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd personally do it over ssh, but you could use telnet if you wanted to. < 1470041137 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, but then i have to give them access to the system, i only want them to have dwarf fortress < 1470041140 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470041221 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're always going to need to log in to the system, you just need to stop them from running anything other than screen or Dwarf Fortress. < 1470041240 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to stop screen from being able to execute arbitrary commands is a good question, though. < 1470041359 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so, i just want to do something with the output, send it to the users, and get input < 1470041554 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbinding C-a : should be sufficient, I think. < 1470041575 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'll probably want to unbind some other stuff too so users don't try and do annoying stuff. < 1470041641 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : I personally think that adding screen is a bit of a waste, i dont see where its needes in the input => program => output => repeat loop < 1470041821 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It effectively virtualizes a terminal and allows multiple endpoints to be connected to it. < 1470041838 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, it lets people log in on multiple terminals and see the same thing. < 1470041908 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And send input to it.) < 1470042101 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :last week i was testing stuff and added debug code that dumped a structure to /tmp/izdump < 1470042110 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that shit is now packaged and shipped -_- < 1470042120 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gg < 1470042135 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like you can actually use screen's builtin acl support to stop users from executing commands. < 1470042198 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. damn a example script eould help lol, but ok, im following < 1470042215 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :google isn't providing solutions for "unship code" < 1470042223 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1470042510 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a go at one, hold on. < 1470042539 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it brick the devices? no -> push update to the previous release. yes -> cash in your stock in the company and move far away < 1470042578 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's not my fault! that wasn't supposed to end up in prod < 1470042582 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't wanna move away < 1470042599 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "f" finger hurts. I wonder if I should hold a pen between that finger and the left thumb to make sure I'm not typing with it, because typing just makes it hurt more. < 1470042631 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470042685 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could remap f to capslock (and r and v, for good measure.) < 1470042721 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: To be honest I think this will do it: < 1470042721 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :escape '' < 1470042722 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :bind ^d detach < 1470042836 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless ^d does something in Dwarf Fortress; I can't remember. < 1470043413 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf fortress overrides ^d < 1470043528 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick some other keystroke it doesn't use, then (if there are any :p). < 1470043551 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use a prefix like screen normally does, it would make the config longer is all. < 1470044165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470044172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why the hell does the H○ scale convert real-world feet to scale-world millimeters? < 1470044329 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because 16.5 mm is a nice value for rail spacing? < 1470044342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: But is it really? < 1470044358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think all railroad models should be in 87:1 < 1470044361 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo open shell? Hopefully no # moon_ < 1470044371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :open shell? Hopefully no < 1470044403 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik, but thats sandboxed, and so is shbot, i didnt know what you used < 1470044412 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 87:1 not 1:87? :p < 1470044418 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shbot has a much stricter sandbox < 1470044424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Yes. < 1470044436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Your model has to be larger than the original. < 1470044545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a good xkcdsw would be http://xkcd.com/1294/, but "telescope" becomes "dildo" < 1470044644 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :railroad models should be 1:1 < 1470044905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: All railroad models should be made in 1:89+41i < 1470044951 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol. < 1470045058 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i am okay with that < 1470045091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps model train layouts should be logarithmic? < 1470045168 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:i*pi < 1470045178 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, just plain out how do you stream a program to multiple users using telnet? < 1470045279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, I was introduced to Never Gonna Give You Up by anything other than 4chan < 1470045330 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy if you don't 4chan < 1470045607 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Normally you don't need to do such a thing, since for most services you'd fork per connection. < 1470045639 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I can't really think of a use case apart for something like this or nethack@alt.org, etc. < 1470045649 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be interested if there are, thoguh. < 1470045654 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1470045669 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im good now < 1470045931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, but the first time I heard it was in the movie "Miracle in Toyworld" or something like that < 1470045950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's permanently associated with that < 1470045991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If HO is supposed to be H0, is there an H1? < 1470046279 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470047677 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470047894 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470049978 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470051395 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470052203 0 :Xnuk!~Xnuk_Shum@2400:6180:0:d0::200:8001 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470053827 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470053881 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470054200 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STABLE CHICKEN < 1470055949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470056137 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470056979 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.151 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470057423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470057888 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:28bc:9d64:51bf:74ef QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470060118 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470060515 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470061233 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470061544 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470062719 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470063358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470063843 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ukhrzazdeqedvvwz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470063844 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470063872 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hxyabtafcailtjpc QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1470063873 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czojatwtkxaoqoob QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470064001 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470064031 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064059 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tapzxtcbphndtmps QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470064695 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064742 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdploweqaqvroak JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064745 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qruqbindfjykzocr JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064747 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycdbeuogvbaahqc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470064757 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1470065007 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvuoxzqkfgfskyvm JOIN :#esoteric < 1470065107 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1470065951 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1470066086 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1470066168 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. < 1470066295 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :æ ø å you ain't got the æ ø å < 1470066528 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor the äöü < 1470066581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor аиоуэ < 1470066599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(greek anyone?) < 1470068235 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1046 < 1470068264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1046: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1470068366 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470069180 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1470069924 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470070059 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470070086 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470070453 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470070580 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470072935 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470073008 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470073063 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.151 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470076698 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470077859 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470079235 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:7d57:692c:73be:29ac JOIN :#esoteric < 1470080015 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470080187 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3cf7:614:846b:e3dd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470080382 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:7d57:692c:73be:29ac QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470080548 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3cf7:614:846b:e3dd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470080642 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081498 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081534 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470081630 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081735 0 :yurichev!~yurichev@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470081753 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470081892 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-37-167.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470082026 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470082827 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar katl < 1470082827 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 011911Z 24006KT 10SM -RA FEW020 SCT075 BKN100 BKN250 28/24 A3008 RMK AO2 RAB02 TSE11 TS MOV SE CB DSNT NE & DSNT S-SW-W TCU DSNT N-NE & DSNT SW SHRA DSNT S-SW-W P0000 T02830239 < 1470082829 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f QUIT :Read error: Network is unreachable < 1470082832 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1470082932 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470083785 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LIPZ < 1470083786 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIPZ 011920Z 03009KT CAVOK 24/15 Q1015 NOSIG < 1470083835 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going there on Wednesday < 1470083922 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470084058 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and checking @metar now helps? < 1470084111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And saying "and checking @metar now helps?" helps? < 1470084195 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470084504 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470084514 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I have a friend near there right now < 1470084520 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can't actually read meta < 1470084520 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1470084527 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just makes me feel like I'm doing something < 1470084530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one can read METAR. < 1470084555 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the friend is closer to LIPB anyway < 1470084567 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LIPB < 1470084568 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIPB 011850Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT090 24/14 Q1015 < 1470084584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: All you need to do is look at the two numbers separated by a / < 1470084595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one is temperature. < 1470084604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all I know about METAR. < 1470084622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metar < 1470084629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second number is the avg weight of the pilots in the airport < 1470084632 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:5a79:6016:3a8d:ab02:b85f QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470084636 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metar is a service that allows nerds to talk about the weather. < 1470084641 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second number is apparently the dew point < 1470084656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1470084660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second number is the avg weight of the pilots in the airport, also called the dew point < 1470084662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't know what dew point was. < 1470084682 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dew point is apparently the point at which you get dew < 1470084712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebvention//s# w# metar, w# < 1470084719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470084773 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, are you sure you'd never invent a genetic algorithm with sexual reproduction? < 1470084780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Taneb invented Tanebventions? < 1470084788 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, fairly < 1470084808 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With modern technology, sex is completely unnecessary for algorithms, you see < 1470084813 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470084838 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I've not a clue about genetic programming < 1470084843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well obviously, who else would invent them < 1470084849 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doing a module on it next term) < 1470084857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd be izaberaventions or whatever in that case < 1470084871 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, have you been inventing tanebventions < 1470084881 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1470084885 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there you go < 1470084929 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was planning to < 1470084935 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@5.196.225.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470084937 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it takes a while < 1470084940 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a long project < 1470084953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1470084960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just put the tanebvention in the wisdom entry. < 1470084965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is the one who has to do the hard work. < 1470084982 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the lazy way < 1470085019 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what izabera is planning is to invent something and convince me and everyone else that I was the one who invented it < 1470085039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules were the first Tanebvention, right? < 1470085049 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something three headed dildos ? < 1470085073 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I believe so < 1470085083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that falls outside the purview of Tanebventions. < 1470085122 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I'm no expert but I think three headed dildos involve sex < 1470085175 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's your invention < 1470085182 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :make something up with it < 1470085195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Taneb would rather just uninvent it. < 1470085203 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late < 1470085212 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :patent pending < 1470085224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb never invented it in the first place. < 1470085233 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa easy there < 1470085233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1470085235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1470085262 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone who knows the HackEgo magic change that eight to a nine please < 1470085323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: The magic is this: `slwd taneb//s#eight#nine# < 1470085347 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swld taneb//s#eight#nine# < 1470085348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: swld: not found < 1470085351 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU SURE < 1470085363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES HTH < 1470085371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you gotta type it correctly < 1470085371 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1470085374 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of eight genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1470085381 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd taneb//s#eight#nine# < 1470085384 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/taneb//Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1470085396 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I haven't invented typing things correctly yet tht < 1470085407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tht < 1470085409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470085424 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hth but I haven't invented typing things correctly < 1470085448 0 :dleled!5710bce2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.16.188.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470085548 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1470085706 0 :dleled!5710bce2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.16.188.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470085969 0 :yurichev!~yurichev@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470086031 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470086065 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1470086339 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon! < 1470086454 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470086778 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087370 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470087582 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087601 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started playing around in MSDOS 6.22 < 1470087632 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470087651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best OS ever to come out of the house of Microsoft < 1470087670 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope my University OS professor doesn't read this ;-) ) < 1470087716 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol what does he prefer win10? < 1470087717 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087778 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087791 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1470087835 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470087840 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But DOS offers almost none of the defining features of an OS, most notably it does not offer any multitasking or isolation of multiple processes or access control. < 1470087858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Windows 10 to MS-DOS 6.22 < 1470087880 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That MS botnet is scary. < 1470087949 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I honestly believe that this term is 100% accurate in this context: It is software that phones home automatically and updates itself with whatever code its masters provide, automatically.) < 1470087982 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course Android isn't much different. < 1470088010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most Linux distros on the other hand, are... though perhaps not different enough to matter in practice. < 1470088162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about web software? < 1470088177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All software is becoming web software. < 1470088200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean SaaS? < 1470088213 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"web software" is not a meaningful term to me. < 1470088259 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Hey, b_jonas, you here? < 1470088275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean software written in JavaScritp and delivered to a web browser. < 1470088286 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible. < 1470088295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being written in JavaScript isn't even that important. < 1470088300 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470088328 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it kind of depends on how good the sandboxing is. < 1470088337 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what you do with it... < 1470088351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a web online game I have no trouble with. < 1470088385 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a web office program that may cease existing tomorrow... that's an entirely different matter. < 1470088394 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really part of the botnet problem in my view < 1470088398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :more the opposite < 1470088404 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dual, if you like) < 1470088413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the same auto-update issue. < 1470088417 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: W10 is a botnet under those terms imho, it's just hypothetically a desirable one < 1470088426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you start up the software, you fetch a brand new copy from the web server. < 1470088428 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes it does, hence the sandboxing < 1470088445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so run Windows 10 in a VM, I guess? < 1470088461 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which allows me to think of it as an extension of *THEIR* server using some of my own computing resources < 1470088479 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is lots of software that updates the same way -- the reason a botnet is evil is because it does evil things with your computer resources < 1470088489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Microsoft would like for you to think of Windows the same way. < 1470088515 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, Win 10 in a VM is an option... well... once we find a secure hypervisor. :P < 1470088516 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: MS employee here) < 1470088536 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: the technology is neutral. < 1470088558 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW I'm not qualified to assess if W10 is doing evil -- I have friends who worked on it who said the parts they worked on did not appear to be doing evil < 1470088562 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from a technological perspective there's not enough of a difference that it matters to me. < 1470088578 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible, even likely that there are parts he didn't work on that are evil < 1470088602 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470088666 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and this whole way we're doing software... as indicated above this is not limited to MS or even the commerical world... has ramification that I really don't want to think about. For example, for cryptography. Your crypto software may be secure now, but it can be backdoored without notice.) < 1470088687 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man. I'll indeed so have to buy a new computer in autumn. I love this one and it's served it well, it will probably retire with full honors, but it's just SLOW. < 1470088700 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW I think you should never assume your data is safe because of crypto < 1470088703 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, computer. < 1470088714 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will MS still allow me to install my Win 7 copy on another machine? < 1470088720 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can shake your fist at companies like microsoft because we've probably backdoored our crypto implementations in one place or another < 1470088746 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But afaik usually it's humans following bad security precautions that compromise security situations < 1470088746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Install Windows 3.11 and MS-DOS 6.22 < 1470088756 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will that be the point where I give up on Windows altogether and suffer through the lmited supply of games that work on Linux? < 1470088764 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have them in an emulator < 1470088774 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you seen termbot? that runs ms-dos 6.22 < 1470088774 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your crypto is not particularly important if your super anonymous messages to known targets are sent from the same computer at the same times as your normal tweets < 1470088807 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I started sending tons of messages to ISIS from my personal machine, even if I used magic to guarantee my channel was cryptographically safe, it would probably be evident I was talking to ISIS < 1470088810 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I know... https://xkcd.com/538/ < 1470088818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could also run windows 3.11, but it would be a bit hard to use unless you did some serious preparation, because normally you control windows through the monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and termbot doesn't give you access to those < 1470088828 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: that's what Tor is for. < 1470088830 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the best strategy you can do is not communicate things you don't want found < 1470088835 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh yeah, bring in anonymous third-parties < 1470088852 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously a hostile government could never run its own tor nodes and have them collude < 1470088857 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously this hasn't already happened < 1470088874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tor, obviously, isn't perfect either, and a very lucrative target for secret services) < 1470088879 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: why'd they pay for their own nodes? they just put malware on existing nodes. < 1470088911 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But we know from the Snowden files that it must, actually, be quite good and be causing the NSA a lot of headaches.) < 1470088926 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't the guy who made bomb threats to get out of tests at Stanford or something get found out because he was the only dude on campus using Tor? < 1470088940 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably wasn't Stanford, but it was some major school for smart people < 1470088973 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be wary of crypto that makes it obvious I'm using crypto, because it means more people would want to snoop on me < 1470089049 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had secret terrorist plans I would probably meet my secret terrorist buddies in person somewhere in the wilderness < 1470089092 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: crypto that makes it obvious that you're using crypto? like connecting to freenode through ssl? < 1470089095 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( because that worked so well in 1984 ) < 1470089095 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'd develop secret terrorist plans I could carry out alone < 1470089109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft has secret terrorist plans? < 1470089118 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Don't tell the press! < 1470089118 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: tell the logs all about them < 1470089125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought Microsoft had secret communist plans. < 1470089132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't call it "Redmond" for nothing. < 1470089148 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I dunno, SSL's so commonplace that it's probably not seen as a red flag any more < 1470089165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you would know all about red flags. < 1470089185 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: so just use SSL for everything you want to encrypt? < 1470089211 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not make the assumption that SSL is safe < 1470089222 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you try connecting to 76.1.72.128 port 5138? (telnet). im making sure a port works before i do something < 1470089244 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zekka: of course not. it's just a tool. you have to use it correctly. < 1470089266 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'sk inda what I'm getting at -- you can't blame a single party for "I used crypto and my secrets aren't safe" < 1470089279 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you actually want to be safe you shouldn't communicate your secrets < 1470089355 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470089373 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470089939 0 :_miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470089965 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan GG: ... LOOK! a three-headed monkey! < 1470089965 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470090100 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470090108 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470090215 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470090224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470090231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambek's lemma < 1470090234 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambek's Lemma, invented by Joachim "Taneb" Lambek, states that initial algebras have inverses. < 1470090242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Vaughan Pratt says "the ability to prove Lambek's lemma is a litmus test of whether you can think categorically" < 1470090252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you prove it or just invent it? < 1470090504 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470090557 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is lambek's lemma? < 1470090586 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470090703 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what use is pointless topology? < 1470090721 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless < 1470090752 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-133.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470090799 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: from what I just read, the fact that an initial algebra is an isomorphism < 1470090864 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470090880 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphism of? < 1470090894 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1470090898 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its domain and codomain. < 1470090899 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an initial algebra? < 1470090927 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something categorical. < 1470090941 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably an initial object in some category? < 1470090948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1470090957 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :which category? < 1470090966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the category of algebras hth < 1470090975 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the category of F-algebras for a functor F, which are maps F(A) -> A. < 1470090975 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it a morphism then? < 1470090981 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh ty < 1470091020 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470091026 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470091036 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470091038 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can still prove Lambek's lemma. But I've seen it before and I don't like category theory. < 1470091073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you like? < 1470091108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic, algebra, combinatorics < 1470091310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, category theory is just algebra. < 1470091360 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1470091373 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is A in the above? < 1470091377 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object? < 1470091436 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: in some underlying category, yes. I mean it's an argument to F which is a functor, so there's little choice in the matter. < 1470091452 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a functor maps morphisms too though < 1470091456 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470091559 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I get basic category theory; it's even useful to some extent. But it's a very hard way of thinking for me, and I tend to interpret everything in Set to make sense out of it. < 1470091563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1470091608 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :try poset categories < 1470091691 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories in the sense of thinking of some of maths as talking about morphisms between objects is useful, but it doesn't require too much theory of course. < 1470091713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does give some useful naming conventions that helps communicate with other mathematicians. < 1470091719 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at the backlog. gamemanj scrolls up. gamemanj scrolls up further. gamemanj is an idiot. YGMP+SLP==???
< 1470091744 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1470091744 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1470091753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: I most certainly did not. < 1470092292 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470092342 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092365 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-36-251.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092520 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092581 0 :powerOfTwo!~powerOfTw@host226.190-225-151.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092639 0 :powerOfTwo!~powerOfTw@host226.190-225-151.telecom.net.ar QUIT :Client Quit < 1470092666 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@108.71.36.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470092715 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-36-251.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470092778 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This happens a lot with algebra, not only category theory. There's also a negative effect though, in that when mathematicians explain something with algebraic language, and young mathematicianlings are listening, it can seem quite alien and hard to understand, even if the underlying thought is pretty simple and they could understand it. < 1470092783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just a temporary effect. < 1470092811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon, the young mathematicianlings will turn into aliens. < 1470092836 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicianling is an overly complicated word < 1470092857 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you a mathematicianling? < 1470092924 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470092962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah. eventually they grow and they themselves will talk nonsense like "Wait, that's too abstract. Let's take a specific example. Say, let A be a self-adjoint operator over a complex space." < 1470092994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :roll your self-adjoint and join the fun < 1470093094 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470093336 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i "Take a positive integer N. No wait, N is too big; take a positive integer k." < 1470093351 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for a different joke but I've forgotten it now. < 1470093457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gone up in smoke. < 1470093487 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470093493 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, like that < 1470093624 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470093887 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make a watchable game of Dwarf Fortress, but, it doesnt like the arrow keys and the escape key etc etc. any help? < 1470093916 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd: ncat -l --keep-open --sh-exec "./df" 5318 < 1470093936 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470093968 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make a watchable game of Dwarf Fortress, but, it doesnt like the arrow keys and the escape key etc etc. any help? < 1470093970 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1470093972 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1470094189 0 :zgrep!?@? NICK :zvehk < 1470094286 0 :zvehk!?@? NICK :zgrep < 1470094454 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.104.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470094574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this joke from mathoverflow is so good < 1470094577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to visit him while he was lying ill at the hospital. I had come in taxi cab number 14 and remarked that it was a rather dull number. "No" he replied, "it is a very interesting number. It's the smallest number expressible as the product of 7 and 2 in two different ways." < 1470094741 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470094914 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.103.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470094989 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470095101 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mathwackematics shachaf
< 1470095105 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1470095111 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome byteflame < 1470095118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04byteflame: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1470095368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1470095404 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :byerjan! < 1470095406 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(poutine time!) < 1470095408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-foul < 1470095408 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 1h 30m 43s ago: GG: ... LOOK! a three-headed monkey! < 1470095413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wat? < 1470095422 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bwah ah ah! < 1470095429 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SUGAR CHICKEN < 1470095450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, he left, i was going to make an awful pun :( < 1470095681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e sadly, i've played very few computer games hth < 1470095681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470095690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which ones twh < 1470095708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's tetris... < 1470095806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :civilization, although i usually chickened out soon after the enemies started appearing. < 1470095872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a number of small mindless games and abstract puzzle games. < 1470095928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of which i've forgot. < 1470096025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i played a couple MUDs, and that's about all of rpg-like things. (excluding a game for Oric-1 called Zodiac, which i never got very far in.) < 1470096046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no first person shooters, ever, afair. < 1470096079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hydra game hth < 1470096082 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and palisade hth < 1470096093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thnk that counts as "abstract puzzle" hth < 1470096111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't going to list those individually. < 1470096115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think < 1470096131 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470096144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about nomic hth < 1470096161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't count that as a computer game. < 1470096189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to argue semantics tdnh < 1470096205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that schemenomic thing, once. < 1470096213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what nomic is about < 1470096222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...point. < 1470096357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chances of getting deeper into gaming diminished sharply after my hands started aching back in 2003 or thereabouts. < 1470096411 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like there are genres of game that you can play fine even with that < 1470096431 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there are strategy games which require about the same level of mouse use as just web browsing < 1470096494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use a mouse these days, but a trackpad. also, i can ache simply from typing if i do it long enough. < 1470096527 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :trackpad, mouse, if you can click buttons on a screen it works out the same < 1470096555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm just not sure how different they are for the hands. < 1470096633 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470096702 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470096828 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can play text adventures with voice control hth < 1470096854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1470096867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa fizzie < 1470096868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavan #esoteric päälle EFnet tai Dalnet.) < 1470096923 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very silly. < 1470096935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is? < 1470096939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar corrections are also `welcome hth < 1470096953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telling people to go to Dalnet #esoteric, when it doesn't even exist? < 1470096965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to? < 1470096985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the first we found afair. < 1470096987 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Everything except the parenthetical remark seems fine. < 1470097017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and the grammar of that is atrocious? < 1470097017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: what are you Muumin' for < 1470097021 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@108.71.36.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470097021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that doesn't make sense < 1470097030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we _do_ get the other kind occasionally. < 1470097049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moomins are tg < 1470097052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact we have one here right now, who somehow doesn't leave. < 1470097065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1470097070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e just left. < 1470097083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there might be others. < 1470097088 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter could be something like: "kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa." < 1470097149 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd welcome.fi//s/kokeile.*/kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.)/ < 1470097152 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome.fi//Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.) < 1470097175 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard because you really would need to inflect the names EFnet and Dalnet, and they're not really very Finnish. So I cheated by making it "in the EFnet or Dalnet network" instead. < 1470097202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Efnetti < 1470097210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*F < 1470097217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you making fun of finland < 1470097220 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1470097226 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. EFnetissä. Maybe. < 1470097240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs now howl < 1470097266 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470097271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the owls now hdog < 1470097276 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470097279 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For some reason, in Finnish, the channels are definitely "in", not "on".) < 1470097291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't make a tonh of sense hth < 1470097303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :socking < 1470097315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you recommend learning Finnish? < 1470097318 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperbolic dog. < 1470097335 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or no, that'd be dogh. < 1470097363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arcdog < 1470097381 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my arcdog has an arctic problem < 1470097420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION arcs his swatter onto shachaf -----###
< 1470097458 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-187.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470097502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i internet relay cat < 1470097664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shacaf a decaf brand < 1470097698 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be decaf < 1470097706 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-187.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470097766 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470097775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ryming purposes hth < 1470097824 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i c wut u did < 1470097849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quhintopia < 1470097867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have permission to mispronounce my name, because I always mispronounce yours. < 1470097878 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :altoug, i tink you meant "for ryming purposes t" t < 1470097886 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i randomly run one of 5 diffrent commands? (bash) < 1470097898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but, but, i've been training on uvular fricatives < 1470097901 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Finnish generally handle the inflection of foreign names, fizzie? < 1470097909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lynn < 1470097920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "badly" ) < 1470097941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear about how unary nfa universality is conp-complete (scow) < 1470097944 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i would never have thought to pronounce shachaf with a uvular fricative < 1470097946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the inflection, not the fricatives) < 1470097947 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm going to < 1470097953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. < 1470097957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the official pronunciation. < 1470097965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes what? < 1470097984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i saw int-e point out that's an equivalent formulation < 1470098008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could sabotage it by pronouncing the "sh" as one instead < 1470098033 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll voice the "sh" hth < 1470098037 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is conp < 1470098046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CoNP < 1470098049 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470098052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and btw, the stress is apparently on the first syllable, which was opposite of my initial assumption. < 1470098072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your initial assumption was that it's on the other two? < 1470098084 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never thought of emphasizing the second syllable--now i'm going to < 1470098133 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :new unofficial quintopia pronunciation: "zhach AS fuck" < 1470098159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that would be "for ryming purposes t t", i think, since it would break my script. < 1470098165 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me feel better about "schaf" ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schafe ) < 1470098174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what awful pun didn't you make < 1470098194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean there was a bunch of bad puns anyway < 1470098198 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :My pronunciation advice: say "shachaf-chan" but pronounce "shachaf" all wrong but make the ch in "chan" is a uvular fricative < 1470098220 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!~~~~~ < 1470098222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: We just mangle them in the way that sounds least bad. < 1470098262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: using shuf -n 1 maybe? < 1470098270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as an ingredient.) < 1470098289 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it would likely be "EFnetissä", "Dalnetissa". < 1470098293 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think maybe they were asking about the giant nested if statement, and possible replacements for it? < 1470098309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mantissa, exponent < 1470098318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: oh and -e looks useful too < 1470098331 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if someone is impolite enough to put vowel harmony mismatch already in the original word, we'd probably just get all confused. < 1470098346 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly an issue with y.) < 1470098346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -e -n 1 t e s t i n g < 1470098348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1470098366 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the most likely outcome! < 1470098376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` `shuf -e -n 1 'echo hi' 'echo ho'` < 1470098376 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -e -n 1 t e s t i n g < 1470098380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1470098380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1470098382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dälnetissä < 1470098388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: ^ < 1470098396 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kkthx < 1470098418 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in $(seq 1000); do shuf -e -n 1 t e s t i n g; done | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn < 1470098431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a pun with "pouting" hth < 1470098441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 272 t \ 169 i \ 153 s \ 146 g \ 139 n \ 121 e < 1470098484 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1470098486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!~~~~~ <-- with that, it feels hard not to make the CH a full trill hth < 1470098526 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: go ahead. i do. < 1470098588 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would you be pouting nonsense? < 1470098596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your initial assumption was that it's on the other two? <-- i'd read somewhere that hebrew stress is usually on the last syllable, or something else i garbled into that. < 1470098599 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is too tired to think of anything better than that.
< 1470098631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew_phonology#Stress hth < 1470098642 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: whence did derogatory adjective "scow" originate? twh < 1470098652 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1470098655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp. < 1470098656 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: scowling, I though < 1470098662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It originated on a scow. < 1470098664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1470098667 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Near Los Angeles. < 1470098690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470098692 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1470098694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1470098696 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: by a passenger or crew? < 1470098705 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Passenger. < 1470098708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1470098718 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470098732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that entry fails to mention the propensity to lie about etymology < 1470098743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : And if someone is impolite enough to put vowel harmony mismatch already in the original word [...] <-- Ørjan feels targeted < 1470098755 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and how did you come to be the only other person in the universe to use it? < 1470098760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: When have I lied about etymology? < 1470098769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm not the only person in the universe to use it! < 1470098774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, oerjan uses it. < 1470098779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being young and impressionable. < 1470098800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people also use it. < 1470098809 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i doubt he uses it anywhere but here, thereby not perpetrating it to the wider population < 1470098819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i didn't see the if statement, but he did say "random". < 1470098831 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe the lispy cow. < 1470098831 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, the ø alone is pretty weird, so. < 1470098835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you speak English anywhere but here? < 1470098845 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh i didn't see random. also you are far behind the present moment? < 1470098870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "scow" has a direct translation to Norwegian or German or any of oerjan's other languages. < 1470098968 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:4749:6dda:fe8e:9625:384e JOIN :#esoteric < 1470098983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh when did dictionary.com add maps? < 1470099005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/scowl < 1470099008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "dictionary" and "map" meant the same thing. < 1470099015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Python, for example. < 1470099022 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: map is something you do with dictionaries hth < 1470099121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1470099122 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1470099125 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t dictionary < 1470099126 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘dictionary’ < 1470099211 0 :Zekka!~zekka@167.220.103.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470099504 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470099804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Do you speak English anywhere but here? <-- i'm only on two chat channels, really, and the other doesn't have much talk. < 1470099821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves to quintopia from the past
< 1470099936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION returns briefly to the present, before running
< 1470100278 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c472:4749:6dda:fe8e:9625:384e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470100457 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470100526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the section on /r/ in the article shachaf linked is inconsistent on whether israelis prefer velar or uvular.
< 1470100560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey, i linked to the stress section hth < 1470100571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Last I tried I can't distinguish velar and uvular fricatives. < 1470100619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you need an oscilloscope :P < 1470100650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but i was thinking of something i wanted to check < 1470100763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway those are voiced fricatives. < 1470100768 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the one in my name is unvoiced. < 1470100778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured. < 1470100920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's been discussed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Modern_Hebrew_phonology#Uvular_Fricative < 1470100975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Perhaps they are supposed to be uvular, but this article is about what they actually are, which is velar in 80% of speakers according to Dekel (2014), who performed a statistical study to answer exactly this question." < 1470100994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually sure what a velar fricative is. < 1470101019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it depends on where in your mouth your tongue is blocking... < 1470101019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what a uvula is. < 1470101029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do I even have a vela? < 1470101056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well g and k are velar stops afaik < 1470101158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :velum=soft palate, supposedly < 1470101186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's a pretty big region, isn't it. < 1470101321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afaiu the discussion, "back velar" is hard to distinguish from uvular. < 1470101329 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470101646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION posts on the talk page
< 1470101702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether to bring up fixing the error in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language#Decidability_properties
< 1470101708 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470101721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your job hth < 1470101723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a serious error, claiming that it's NP-complete when it's really coNP-complete. < 1470101833 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470101841 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got bored < 1470101851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might have found a solution to the paradox of the stone, but it's pretty fucking stupid (and still can be broken) < 1470101853 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now im running something silly < 1470101864 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1470101887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God becomes more powerful as needed < 1470101898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he creates a really heavy stone that he can't currently lift < 1470101907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then when he needs to, he becomes stronger so he can lift it < 1470101930 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :could he make a stone that he could never lift < 1470101947 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1470101948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. < 1470101950 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly, just make it a unmoving object < 1470101953 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1470101954 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1470101962 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not actually, depends on view point < 1470101973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait! Just use relativity! < 1470101975 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470101980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could God make an argument so circular that even He couldn't believe it? < 1470101990 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470101995 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm idunno < 1470101996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most of my arguments are elliptical" < 1470102041 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone try telnetting to this silly server a few times: 76.1.72.128 5318 < 1470102251 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470102270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok i didn't find the answer to what i was actually looking for, so i have to ask you: are hebrew t, p, k aspirated or not? < 1470102285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's aspirated? < 1470102320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small h sound at the end, essentially. english has it, except after s. < 1470102334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as does norwegian.) < 1470102391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :germanic languages tend to have aspirated unvoiced plosives, romance languages tend not to afaik. < 1470102408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've read somewhere that semitic languages can have aspiration... < 1470102454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some languages, like ancient greek and standard chinese, distinguish stops _only_ with aspiration, not voicing.) < 1470102472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1470102485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :greek also has voicing - three way distinction. < 1470102695 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1470102701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it only at the end of a word or something? < 1470102728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470102741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly before a vowel. < 1470102790 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470102830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirated_consonant suggest testing it by holding your palm in front of your mouth to feel how much air there is. < 1470102835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1470102870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in english, there should be more with "pin" than with "bin".) < 1470102911 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how do you pronounce "p" unaspirated? < 1470102941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a "b" and just don't voice it, i think... < 1470102984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also contrast "pin" vs. "spin", the latter should be unaspirated. < 1470103071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Aspiration varies with place of articulation. The Spanish voiceless stops /p t k/ have voice-onset times (VOTs) of about 5, 10, and 30 milliseconds, whereas English aspirated /p t k/ have VOTs of about 60, 70, and 80 ms." < 1470103132 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470103418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"French,[5] Standard Dutch,[6] Tamil, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Modern Greek, and Latvian are languages that do not have aspirated consonants." < 1470103490 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470103533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION surprised about dutch
< 1470103714 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470103982 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@5.196.225.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh the article used to use "spin" as the example, but someone changed it to "bin". < 1470104284 0 :_miketo!?@? NICK :miketo < 1470104296 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104448 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470104456 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470104506 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104520 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470104571 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470104591 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470104644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh the article used to use "spin" as the example, but someone changed it to "bin". < 1470104648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470104661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: *cough* < 1470104716 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1470104728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out, shift-* on my keyboard is just next to up-return < 1470104732 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was just sorting out something with my IRC client < 1470104750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i was thinking you'd got into a bad cycle. < 1470104828 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1470104849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!~wibblewob@yakamo.org$##fixyourconnection < 1470104879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :ent0*!*@*$##fixyourconnection < 1470104895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :Lilly_Goodman!*canaima@* < 1470105065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net$##fixyourconnection < 1470105112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes freenode didn't keep resetting the times on bans
< 1470105129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need elliott here to do a proper cleanup of the list :( < 1470105150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 bans left < 1470105200 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott the only +F? < 1470105244 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :... apparently it's freenode-staff?!? < 1470105280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :$a:`0x00 < 1470105288 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470105339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :$a:silverstream < 1470105370 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470105378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1470105420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: elliott isn't an op, as he left and got deregistered. however, he was very good with cleaning up the ban list :P < 1470105446 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1470105447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i have all the authority, i just don't have the skill. < 1470105483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie should be the founder but apparently freenode has a different policy :( < 1470105502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he's the oldest op nick afaik) < 1470105504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is calling transitions of NFA that match an empty string as epsilon transitions, but a book I have is calling them as lambda transitions instead. Do you know why? < 1470105543 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not. < 1470105557 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for what it's worth, I learned them as epsilon < 1470105568 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I never heard "lambda". < 1470105634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell calls it \& < 1470105640 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book that is calling them lambda transitions is from 1988 < 1470105662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I don't believe in books that were written before I was born. < 1470105679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, because freenode resets the times on the ban list, and also adds new ones at either end, i'm pretty confused about which bans are old enough that they're safe to remove. < 1470105690 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not generalize NFAs further? < 1470105702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you allow epsilon transitions, why not allow transitions to be labeled with arbitrary strings? < 1470105789 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be possible to do too yes, and then you can easily convert into the one that only allows up to one symbol. < 1470105792 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1470105818 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can label them with arbitrary regexes hth < 1470105846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can do that too and then convert them. < 1470105849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the atoms of the regexes can be NFAs < 1470105863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can add some turtles to taste < 1470106197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DFA can sometimes have many more states than the corresponding NFA. However DFA can also be made minimized. What will it be if a NFA has these restrictions: [1] A state can have no more than one epsilon transition leading out. [2] A state can have no more than one epsilon transition leading in. [3] It is not allowed to form a loop entirely of epsilon transitions. < 1470106260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean, what will it be? < 1470106456 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can eliminate epsilon-transitions though < 1470106473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1470106489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can eliminate arbitrary string transitions, too. < 1470106498 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470106522 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :76.1.72.128, port 5318. i got bored and made this :P might keep it up just for the fun of it < 1470106696 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1470106866 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it is, and I cannot seem to connect either < 1470106922 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470107032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chicken < 1470107038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken is boily af < 1470107047 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you convert into a minimum NFA that has the three restrictions I mentioned? < 1470107111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you like those restrictions? < 1470107167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A parser I have designed has these restrictions. < 1470107909 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108350 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108441 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470108732 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108959 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-35-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470108965 0 :almightynsx2!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470108990 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470109334 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c504:d179:2518:b104:83e7:eb44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470109382 0 :almightynsx!~JD@2602:306:c504:d179:2518:b104:83e7:eb44 QUIT :Client Quit < 1470109383 0 :almightynsx2!~JD@adsl-108-71-32-109.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470109510 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470110486 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470110734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470110782 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470110900 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470111408 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is Strindberg < 1470111426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is Strindberg < 1470112213 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470113959 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470115124 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470115843 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :[poke-for-poke] < 1470116352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470116402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470117220 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470117627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@24.237.158.8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470117634 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470117663 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470117836 0 :[poke-for-poke]!?@? NICK :[ctcp-for-yellin < 1470117841 0 :[ctcp-for-yellin!?@? NICK :[ctcp-for-yell] < 1470118370 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470118743 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470119256 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120552 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1470120576 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120578 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1470120614 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120617 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1470120634 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470120636 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1470120660 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470121093 0 :moon__!?@? 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NICK :[ctcp-for-yell] < 1470121237 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470121239 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network went crazy < 1470121241 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry < 1470121299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can any computer printer support printing in invisible ink as well as black? < 1470121342 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea lol < 1470121376 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to make the FreeUHS "print" program to support an option to tell it what specials (if any) to use to tell it to select or deselect invisible ink, so that if this option is used, then you can print the contents of the hints in invisible ink. < 1470121441 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such a program can be implemented even if no such thing currently exists, because when it does exist, then that option can be used.) < 1470121532 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing that can be put is to cover up the text and then you can scratch it off in order to read it (like some lottery cards). < 1470121581 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470121590 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470121812 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470122030 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what would happen if i fed a ethernet switch 2.5v through the data lines, no ossilation or changes < 1470122290 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470122399 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ctcp-for-yell]: If you're applying 2.5v on a *pair*, rather than individual parts of the pair? Not much. < 1470122403 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470122471 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A similar (but fairly carefully specified) scheme is used in Power over Ethernet. < 1470122504 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would 2.5v ac do damage? < 1470122515 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5V AC would probably ruin the signal. < 1470122544 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :120v ac? < 1470122651 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :120V AC would likely ruin the signal, possibly the cable as well, and might ruin the opto-isolator in the Ethernet switch. < 1470122677 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping it'd start it on fire : < 1470122694 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, neon transformer hooked to it lol < 1470122704 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I *think* the opto-isolator is actually rated for a couple kV?) < 1470122715 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc through the insulation on the cable. < 1470122731 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruin everythin < 1470122735 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470122751 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't even reach the switch, it'd be arcing pretty close to where you hook the cable up. < 1470122812 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to have a good guarantee of destroying a switch you'd need to basically connect all of its contacts up to a Tesla coil or a beefy capacitor bank or something. < 1470122832 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone already said that in ##chat < 1470122922 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the nice things about Ethernet is it's designed to be pretty robust to people screwing it up, from a physical or electrical point-of-view... < 1470122944 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your most likely failure cases are just gonna make the network stop working, not cause lasting damage to equipment on the network. < 1470123273 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470123363 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470123441 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ctcp-for-yell]: if you really want to screw up a network switch, try to make a virus < 1470123467 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably already viruses that pread over ethernet < 1470123482 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on outdated switches a socket into socket cable works sometimes < 1470123526 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll screw up the network it's attached to, not the switch itself (permanently). :) < 1470123579 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik < 1470123594 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :works on stupid it/big server tho < 1470123662 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also works on my home netwrk :P < 1470123857 0 :[ctcp-for-yell]!?@? NICK :dontctcp < 1470123924 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470123999 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somewhat unlikely that a mains AC waveform will be decoded as a valid ethernet frame < 1470123999 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470124225 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Yes, but it will likely corrupt any Ethernet frames going over the cable. < 1470124270 0 :dontctcp!?@? NICK :moon__ < 1470124545 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :even at 60 Hz? an ethernet frame is much smaller than 1/60s. < 1470124563 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://devnull-as-a-service.com/ < 1470124566 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will collide < 1470124684 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1470124704 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Whatever you're doing, it sounds like a bad idea... < 1470124723 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I dunno, I'd be worried about it considering it's adding a 50/60 Hz 120V waveform to a 2.5V AC signal. < 1470124740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470124757 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That said it probably shouldn't do much more than be noise. < 1470124819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.name.tld: the domain of the tribush < 1470124865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, this is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush is _not_ a redirect < 1470124892 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you expect it to redirect? < 1470124939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Well, "Jeb" isn't Jeb Bush's name < 1470124946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeb = John Ellis Bush < 1470124962 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he should change it < 1470124967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1470124972 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says so < 1470125593 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebush < 1470125616 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :je suis bush < 1470125632 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...somehow sounds like ambush, so I've immediately discarded the idea < 1470125708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: iirc wikipedia policy is to usually name articles what most people call the subject. < 1470125805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump <- why is this not called big fat racist? < 1470126144 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it worse to be a big fat racist, or to be a miserable failure?) < 1470126510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Trump isn't yet qualified as a miserable failure, because he is yet to be president < 1470126651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether Trump's wikipedia article (see: http://loser.com/) is biased < 1470126657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like it is, but then again, I'm biased < 1470126677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trump is a strong proponent of law and order. He has suggested a temporary suspension of immigration to the United States from nations having a "proven history" of terrorism against the U.S. until more precise vetting techniques can be put in place to screen out potential terrorists; he also believes that the quick defeat of ISIS is mandatory." < 1470126692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little incorrect, because it's not so much nations with that history as it is muslims < 1470126751 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not they have that history < 1470128829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the ratio of illegitimate births in comparison to the number of total births is high, the number of mustaches within the population drops < 1470128831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1470128880 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470129189 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they get killed by husbands < 1470129543 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470129639 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470129865 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is mostly for the logs: my vacation to Sweden and Norway starts on 2016-08-05 and ends on 2016-08-17, I'll be barely available during that time. I probably won't be on the internet, or only a little. I might not even be reading email much. For urgent problems, try phone call and SMS, or call my family. < 1470129909 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just send you an owl like every normal person < 1470129967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: How can I reach your family? < 1470130025 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470130196 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :creep < 1470130258 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470130262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think that's justified? < 1470130498 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you're a co-worker or family or other person who should know, ask me privately and I can give email and phone number of them < 1470130516 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470130525 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you might already know < 1470130526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I didn't realize those folks were in here. < 1470130536 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470130577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470130593 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't, probably < 1470130604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you're here, then you probably won't want to reach me for anything urgent < 1470130621 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to tell anything for sure, especially about people reading a public log < 1470130651 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, if you want to meet me, and ask nicely in private, I can probably give my phone number (even if not my family's) < 1470130710 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470130825 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you, it's probably not that hard to find a contact for my family on the internet, since some of them has the same last name as me) < 1470130838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've forgotten your last name. < 1470130842 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's somewhere in the logs. < 1470130869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, and also on the Internet. < 1470130876 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470130931 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the internet, yes < 1470130983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470133691 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470134768 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably set up a pager for urgent esolangs.org matters. < 1470135465 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened this time? < 1470135509 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, just musing. < 1470135526 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inspired by b_jonas' announcement above. < 1470135590 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: enjoy your vacation < 1470135941 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470136052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should HireFly to handle the pages < 1470136762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470137017 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Faraday cage news... fun. < 1470137048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (cd wisdom; grep -ri faraday .) < 1470137073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470137177 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grep -ri cage wisdom < 1470137223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: invalid option -- ' ' \ Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... \ Try 'grep --help' for more information. < 1470137234 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ``? < 1470137238 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :``grep -ri cage wisdom < 1470137245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `grep: not found < 1470137247 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: you are being very slow < 1470137261 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -ri cage wisdom < 1470137288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/boxmodel:boxmodel is how we figure out how big Taneb's cage is going to be. < 1470137345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Taneb's cage"? < 1470137367 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure people like cages. IDK. Is Taneb a cage collector? < 1470137379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is to to protect Taneb or to protect the other people? < 1470137447 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously to protect Taneb. If we had to protect the other people, well, < 1470137451 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be impossible anyway. < 1470137457 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1470137463 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously Taneb's cage is a tanebvention < 1470137477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470137491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470137496 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to somehow protect people from the BBC. < 1470137497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470137524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tanebventions: linguistics//Linguistic tanebventions include [...] < 1470137535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tanebventions: linguistics» < 1470137562 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the common comma < 1470137569 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now falling out of style) < 1470137590 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: huh? < 1470137601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: linguistics < 1470137605 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/Linguistic tanebventions include [...] < 1470137611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470137681 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470137702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1470137705 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470137718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1470137732 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does learn/le\rn work? < 1470137736 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1470137740 0 :farrioth!~farrioth@122-62-138-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470137740 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn and le/rn < 1470137766 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Normally) < 1470137767 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's le//rn as well < 1470137783 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :was le//rn meant to be used instead? < 1470137788 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's magical) < 1470137797 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: maybe! < 1470137825 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about le///rn < 1470137839 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slashlearn < 1470137850 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or le/s/ignorance/truth/g/rn < 1470137853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»" < 1470137913 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure you mean strength < 1470138097 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old musing at https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html from 2002 is still fucking completely true. < 1470138213 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470138213 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470138266 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have you seen http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2900/fv02843.htm? < 1470138342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"PANICKED CHICKEN" < 1470138342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470138351 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. I'm not a chicken and I don't look like a chicken >_>'... <_<;... < 1470138361 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a sane man! < 1470138382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1470138385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1470138387 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-/ < 1470138407 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sarlacc < 1470138409 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarlacc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470138486 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the old version is still there in the PDF hth < 1470138487 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many other people out there prefer the canine version of FreeFall to the colorized one. < 1470138528 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"canine version of FreeFall"??? < 1470138548 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ` < 1470138550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` is the prefix to greatness. < 1470138551 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: alluding to lack of color vision. < 1470138554 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `` < 1470138556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​``? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470138562 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1470138566 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1470138571 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1470138583 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cat < 1470138586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat < 1470138590 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that cat < 1470138594 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ` < 1470138594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/` < 1470138609 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1470138610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1470138625 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rnooodl < 1470138626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470138634 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rnooodl < 1470138647 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1470138649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1470138653 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1470138654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo noodle < 1470138656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodle < 1470138664 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo nooodle < 1470138664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470138665 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodle < 1470138675 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1470138680 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1470138685 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread the pipe as a \ < 1470138764 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo noooooodle < 1470138766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodle < 1470138769 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1470139069 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodle < 1470139071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1470139389 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( s/ancestor/creator/ ) < 1470139440 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Taneb created Taneb )
< 1470139472 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other people < 1470139608 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :Refrigerator | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1470140609 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GLOVED CHICKEN < 1470141157 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pokemon < 1470141174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. < 1470141258 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? p-speed < 1470141259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p-speed? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142253 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mario < 1470142256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario is a classic PSPACE-complete problem invented by Nintendo. < 1470142261 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pspace < 1470142262 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pspace? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142270 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pspace-complete < 1470142274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pspace-complete? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142278 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? completionist < 1470142279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completionist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142281 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? complete < 1470142283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142285 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? completion < 1470142287 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completion? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142288 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pocket < 1470142290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pocket? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142292 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nintendo < 1470142293 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nintendo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142299 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1470142303 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? problem < 1470142304 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142308 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solution < 1470142309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solution? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142312 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solvent < 1470142313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solvent? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142317 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monster < 1470142318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142321 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stops spamming
< 1470142594 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? do not put the baby < 1470142595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not put the baby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142599 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? baby < 1470142600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :baby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142603 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? babies < 1470142604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470142778 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470142918 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470144863 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wee I have an OEIS wiki account... < 1470144871 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now what shall I do with it < 1470145413 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1470145416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1470145422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oeis < 1470145423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oeis? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470145435 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google oeis < 1470145436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://oeis.org/ < 1470145499 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that < 1470145502 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1470145559 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I want a new terminal emulator < 1470145575 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt is okay but configuring it is literally the worst < 1470145611 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: what? what's so hard in configuring it? I just have a script that starts it with the right command-line arguments and it works that way < 1470145629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for that one mysterious bug that took days to debug, but that was ages ago) < 1470145908 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: setting e.g. the font requires arcane invocations in .Xresources < 1470145914 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it *sucks* at fonts < 1470145939 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't render the font I like correctly at the size I like < 1470145951 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in general it sucks at picking font sizes < 1470146130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: no, I don't need to put anything in X resources < 1470146143 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike with xterm, I can give ANY setting in the command line for urxvt < 1470146150 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or any setting in xresources if you prefer that) < 1470146192 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put everything in the command line, but putting everything in xresources and perhaps just putting a -name in the command line to choose from multiple configs could work just as well < 1470146266 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough, still doesn't solve the problem that a) the configs are arcane b) font config just doesn't work period < 1470146290 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: how does it 'not work'? < 1470146326 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :feliks: with the font I'm using for instance < 1470146337 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :height 12 pixels is the same as height 13 pixels, which is too small < 1470146347 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :height 14 pixels is good, but underscores don't render < 1470146353 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :height 15 pixels is too big < 1470146380 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use for font rendering? < 1470146389 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt... < 1470146412 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean systems wide. you're not into infinality are you? < 1470146431 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing nothing special < 1470146456 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :what font are you using then? < 1470146461 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Droid Sans Mono < 1470146488 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence :) < 1470146511 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does your .Xresources/.Xdefaults line look like? < 1470146576 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try: < 1470146585 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :URxvt.font: xft:Droid Sans Mono:pixelsize=13:antialias=true:hinting=true < 1470146646 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dynamic reconfiguration of settings is the *worst* < 1470146662 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's even smaller O_o < 1470146709 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I set it to 14, it's back to the correct size but underscores are still invisible < 1470146736 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is that what you wanted? < 1470146739 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470146749 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the size it's currently at with underscores actually rendering < 1470146755 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :which appears to be too much to ask < 1470146808 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also consider the fact that the only way to dynamically change a setting, near as I can tell, is to bind a keyboard shortcut to a command to do so to be a major anti-feature < 1470146818 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470146877 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a look at your freetype config < 1470146930 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1470146935 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could switch to a better terminal emulator? < 1470146996 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever floats your boat < 1470147060 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to mess around with ridiculous arcane configs for hours trying to solve what is a super easy problem in other terminal emulators < 1470147436 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp meh < 1470147439 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (flags == O_TMPFILE) write(1, "TEMP!!!", 7); < 1470147441 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ((fd = open(template, flags | O_RDWR | O_CREAT | O_EXCL, 0600)) != -1) return fd; < 1470147452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :these two lines produce this in strace < 1470147455 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write(1, "TEMP!!!", 7TEMP!!!) = 7 < 1470147456 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :open("/tmp/hYnyMH", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_DIRECTORY|O_TMPFILE, 0600) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) < 1470147476 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is O_DIRECTORY there? < 1470148034 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, the pathname must specify a directory < 1470148040 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess glibc is adding that < 1470148148 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470148392 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470148705 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the closed fibonacci in haskell? < 1470148733 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1..] -- ?? < 1470148735 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,276... < 1470148740 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, not that < 1470148760 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1470148790 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by closed? < 1470148815 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in: working as anonymous function < 1470148845 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without fix perfectly < 1470148919 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I know the one... < 1470148980 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470149006 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just can't get it < 1470149011 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh, this is annoying me < 1470149098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) . scanl (+) 1) < 1470149099 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1470149109 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\(a, b) -> (b, a+b)) (0, 1) < 1470149111 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(0,1),(1,1),(1,2),(2,3),(3,5),(5,8),(8,13),(13,21),(21,34),(34,55),(55,89),... < 1470149139 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I invented that one, but at the very least I discovered it independently :P) < 1470149213 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potato < 1470149216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potatoe < 1470149223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470149223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470149267 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work without fix? < 1470149284 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate is kinda lame < 1470149315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if I should put the entry to potato or to potatoes < 1470149353 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, follow your heart < 1470149410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn potatoes/You are not allowed to take potatoes to Norway without a special permit. < 1470149415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «potatoes» < 1470149627 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470149740 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470149754 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> read . take n . drop (n*(n-1)+1) . show $ 1000^n^2 `div` (100^n - 10^n - 1) :: Int) [1..] < 1470149756 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,1771... < 1470149833 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ouch. < 1470149966 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :but take and drop are typically defined using fix... < 1470149972 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> 1000^n^2 `div` (100^n - 10^n - 1) `div` 100^n^2 `mod` 10^n) [1..] < 1470149973 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1470150112 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1470150116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470150134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/tan*:* < 1470150139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: linguistics wisdom/tanebventions: math < 1470150165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xk3d+hoverboard < 1470150167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/tan*:*s < 1470150170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470150252 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my revert earlier failed) < 1470150283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ;-; < 1470150550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION casually awaits OSX Housecat
< 1470150772 0 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470150873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470151067 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RAR < 1470151068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAR? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470151115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd write "`learn RAR is a legal headache waiting to happen for whoever has to embed support for it into their application due to an obscure 'tradition' of MMD model makers" but that wouldn't really be in the spirit of wisdom. < 1470151151 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Zzzz... < 1470151156 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :` cat canary # eep, a puddytat < 1470151158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1470151169 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat canary < 1470151169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470151194 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't know why it's empty. < 1470151243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la canary < 1470151245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Aug 2 14:02 canary < 1470151289 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470151359 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n ribbit > canary < 1470151362 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470151550 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/ae8c2e353600/canary may be the explanation < 1470153037 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ":)" < 1470153038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​":)" < 1470153682 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470153733 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470154027 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! I got an answer to my question from more than a week ago < 1470154030 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was whiskey < 1470154094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost a month ago, actually < 1470154117 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a useful bit of information < 1470154134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot) < 1470154323 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I asked what drink Faye bought, because it's unclear from http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3257 and the previous few strips < 1470154386 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I think I would've known that. < 1470154404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably in the logs < 1470154410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone gave guesses I think < 1470154418 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check how accurate they were and who won < 1470154515 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.07.05 < 1470154627 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: okay I didn't know... I just assumed by color. < 1470154673 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from the context it had to be something strong < 1470154753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the regular pentagon doing? < 1470154770 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I didn't think much about it recently < 1470154780 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to prepare for the vacation, which takes most of my remaining time < 1470154789 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(together with work and other usual stuff) < 1470154801 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm just asking because I brought up that game the same say as you asked the question about QC < 1470154802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I found out that you can't take potatoes to Norway < 1470154827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you're recommended to take a passport, which is less surprising) < 1470154939 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, today's 5th panel would be... "That didn't occur to me, please hold the fort while I take care of those bastards." < 1470158449 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470158456 0 :Zekka!~zekka@216.206.111.130 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470158504 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470159062 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470159949 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470160041 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn nundrum/A nundrum is the categorical dual of a conundrum: a problem whose solution is useless. < 1470160045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «nundrum» < 1470162014 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470163780 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ec6c:cd7a:d719:6735 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470165284 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470165316 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ec6c:cd7a:d719:6735 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470165688 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470165965 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad5b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470166192 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470166620 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1470167041 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470168015 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470168084 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3875:fd4b:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470168533 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470168999 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3875:fd4b:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470170046 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170265 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170315 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470170473 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470170572 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170610 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470170772 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470172131 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470172650 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470172766 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470172880 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470172889 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1470172909 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I brought up my huge bag from the basement so I can pack in it for travel < 1470172919 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just some dust or paint on it < 1470172929 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the light it turns out there's actually MOLD GROWING ON IT < 1470173433 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1470173643 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470173915 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: buy a new suitcase < 1470173932 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dispose of the old one by fire < 1470174073 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad5b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy new mold. That one has a bag on it. Eww. < 1470174236 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could grow because the basement has barely any air circulation < 1470174431 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does traffic change orientation in the chunnel < 1470174449 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a helix that switches the left and the right? < 1470174479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :driving on the left side of the road makes no sense < 1470174488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither does writing from the left side of the page < 1470174524 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer writing downward < 1470174545 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there pathfinder nerds in here? < 1470174557 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the space probe? < 1470174559 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the other channel the other day I was talking about the old puzzle of why mirrors flip things left-to-right. < 1470174576 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the role playing game system < 1470174591 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they flip things front to back, not left to right? < 1470174602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That answer is correct but incomplete. < 1470174646 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your mirror self writes with the opposite hand < 1470174658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only on opposite day. < 1470174673 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I dunno, but I also don't understand why some mirrors zoom and distract your face. people keep using those, but those are confusing and I hate them. < 1470174686 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use only non-zooming flat mirrors which don't distort < 1470174686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean distort? < 1470174689 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :distort, yes < 1470174730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470174737 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's for magnifying the blemishes on your face and allowing you to obsess oover them < 1470174747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind distorting mirrors. < 1470174754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My face is already distorted in the opposite way. < 1470174755 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the bathroom I have two cupboards with mirror on the door, so basically I have two movable mirrors that let me look at even the back of my face, even without flipping left and right, < 1470174763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they're the only way to see myself as I truly am. < 1470174771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I have a handheld mirror for when it helps. < 1470174778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never look at mirrors. < 1470174786 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't get photographed. < 1470174802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't look *at* the mirror (except when cleaning it). I look *through* it to my face or body or clothes. < 1470175124 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470175804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470175915 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470176289 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: do you remember how you connected your bot to DOS 6.22? < 1470176297 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad5b8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1470176301 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470176305 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to write a experiement that connects to DOS 6.22 :P < 1470176310 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: sure < 1470176313 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the virtualbox Serial < 1470176330 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't start it up now, but I can answer questions < 1470176334 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470176364 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you connect it to the Bot, and what language (the language is just so i can judge how hard it would be in js, which im using) < 1470176433 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I connect to the virtual machine's serial connection, which DOS lets you use as the terminal for all programs that access stdin and stdout. < 1470176481 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bochs emulator exposes this serial terminal by connecting it to... I don't quite remember, probably the master side of a pty terminal? < 1470176493 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how did you set up the serial connection? i know that DOS can use ctty to connect to COM < 1470176551 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I used the ctty command to redirect stdin and stdout and stderr there, and I used a command-line program from norton utilities to set the parameters of the serial connection from DOS, although I think you can also use DOS's MODE COM command for that < 1470176579 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mode matters only partly, because I think bochs actually lets data through it faster than a real serial terminal hardware would permit. < 1470176600 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the mode might actually be mostly ignored, except perhaps the number of bits per character. < 1470176638 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see http://bochs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/topper.pl?name=New+Bochs+Documentation&url=http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook < 1470176645 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using virtualbox >_> < 1470176651 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1470176655 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill figure it out eventually < 1470176658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which mode I used, the socket or the pty < 1470176663 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the socket, that's easier to set up < 1470176674 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I think virtualbox can also expose the serial terminal to you somehow < 1470176724 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I must have used the pty mode < 1470176876 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, checking the source code, it turns out I actually used the socket mode < 1470176936 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, virtualbox doesnt like me with sockets < 1470176971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't take this as good practice < 1470176979 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my script is old and half-broken anyway < 1470176981 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470176982 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470176992 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were to want something like this seriously, then I'd have to rewrite the whole thing properly < 1470176999 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the port im using is closed, to prevent possible, well, unmonitered dos invasions :P < 1470177028 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470177131 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470177183 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470177299 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1470177547 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470177665 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470179320 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470179411 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470179823 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: a single DOS image would work on multiple platforms for bochs, right? < 1470179839 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, can i have a copy of your DOS image? im too lazy to make one on windows :P < 1470180035 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: what do you mean multiple platforms? < 1470180079 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't give you the whole DOS image, it has a whole lot of various software with unclear copyright status. I can give you parts of it if you want. < 1470180082 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470180118 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only need the boot < 1470180120 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470180125 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easier < 1470180145 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait dont i need a config too? lol, ill adjust it as needed < 1470180186 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see < 1470180235 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, why is the word 'Refrigerator' in the topic? < 1470180277 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470180289 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: please wait a minute < 1470180293 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or five minutes < 1470180315 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470180323 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can wait all day :P < 1470180382 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470180702 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470180775 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: can you give an email address (in private message) I can send it to? < 1470180797 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll send you my fancy full-featured dos boot floppy, which I used a lot < 1470180859 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still has a lot of software with unclear copyright status (including some of norton utilities and norton commander, some of turbo pascal, some of DOS itself, etc), but it's at least less than the whole image < 1470180868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon__, wellob_jellonas. < 1470180882 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone pops up to cause issues, i can remove it < 1470180893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity it doesn't have the one useful utility on the image of which the copyright status is clear, my DOS version of the joe editor, whcih I can give separately if you want < 1470180894 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously (; < 1470180912 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please do :P < 1470181438 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470181592 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470181621 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pc decided to die on me < 1470181633 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1470181690 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470182097 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: im impatient, is it uploading? < 1470182164 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: sending it now < 1470182168 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just writing an editor < 1470182170 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1470182173 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a description < 1470182181 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need the joe-editor, I can send that separately < 1470182190 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's hard to use because my config file for DOS is crap < 1470182259 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for noninteractive, thats my big question (Yup, doing a thing) < 1470182272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470182285 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: not alone, you'll need more of DOS to set up that < 1470182291 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: like, you need ctty probably < 1470182296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this mostly has interactive utilities < 1470182319 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt DOS have ctty by default? < 1470182362 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why did you never writeprotect the boot drive? < 1470182371 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on your bot < 1470182379 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: so that you can tinker with it < 1470182380 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember we formatted C:\? < 1470182383 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can restore it easily < 1470182399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, the whole purpose of the bot was to be a sandbox you can break < 1470182405 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough < 1470182406 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470182412 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even rewrite autoexec so it does something different next time you boot, or boot linux < 1470182426 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, you could just boot linux from a user disk with a command after booting < 1470182429 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't really need that < 1470182431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this way is better < 1470182492 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470182570 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, is it possible to use the DLX image bochs comes with over the serial port? < 1470182948 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd seriously like the compilers too you know :P, could that come as one last package? < 1470182960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's DLX? < 1470182984 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extremely minimal linux, comes with bochs (at least it did for me) < 1470183009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use linux from serial console much better than dos < 1470183033 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik, how would i do that with DLX tho? :P < 1470183058 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of dos programs use the console and keyboard directly (even for just speed, when they wouldn't need to strictly speaking), but linux programs don't do that, they work fine in a virtual terminal that you control from serial terminal < 1470183071 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DLX linux is the bochs demo < 1470183147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ask the linux guys. you probably have to make init spawn gettys on the serial terminal, do some config, and optionally also put the console (boot time and later debug messages and stdio for early userland boot script stuff) to the serial terminal, < 1470183156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optionally put the console for the boot loader to serial terminal. < 1470183258 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470183295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470183411 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: I'm unlikely to send you the whole turbo pascal and borland C distributions, or all of dos or its installer, or all of norton utilities or its installer, or all of norton commander or its installer, or the windows or winword or excel installers. I have them, but I probably won't distribute them. < 1470183415 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get them from somewhere else. < 1470183420 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470183431 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can find the turbo pascal and borland C somewhere on the internet < 1470183445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding hungarian version of excel 5 might be more difficult < 1470183572 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470183628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff isn't even big. I have all the dos stuff on a one gigabyte large image of which about 25% is free space, and it includes all the above and more, and is quite close to what I had on my first computer back when I had 2 decimal gigabytes of hard disk, \ < 1470183664 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to be able to find all that stuff on abandonware sites no problem. Well, maybe not the Hungarian Excel. < 1470183669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omitting the linux install on a 850 megabyte partition (to which I had to install and uninstall programs to make them fit because I didn't know what I could safely remove), and omitting the minimal windows 95 install that's on a 50 megabyte sized compressed partition and boots from a floppy. I had no easy way to backup at that point, because hdd or < 1470183669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd burners were expensive. < 1470183701 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically all my useful dos stuff is about 750 megabytes, including installers and games, < 1470183725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's a few hundred megabytes (mostly some games) I've lost permanently from a hard disk failure earlier. < 1470183847 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of small old software in there < 1470183872 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://stackoverflow.com/questions/711770/fast-implementation-of-rolling-hash am i reading this correctly? they say to compute hash1 = [0]*base^(n-1) + [1]*base^(n-2) + ... + [n-1] but they always multiply by the same number? < 1470183916 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure because 12 people thought it's correct
< 1470183921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep a 'dos' directory that I had on a computer, it's full of random silly little programs from the era where I went "well C:\DOS is in PATH so I'll just stick stuff there". < 1470183942 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's one of the things I cleaned up properly back on dos < 1470183955 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a C:\PATH directory for all the miscellania I run < 1470184033 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never managed. < 1470184064 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes no sense, because I did set PATH. < 1470184082 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm pretty sure this autoexec.bat I'm looking at is not mine. < 1470184117 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, huh. Maybe it is. < 1470184141 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470184146 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the path contains C:\PATH;C:\DOS;C:\NC;C:\NU;C:\WINDOWS;C:\BC\BIN;C:\TP\BIN;C:\NAV < 1470184153 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varied a bit, but that's basically it < 1470184156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember some things (like these goto %config% target labels), but some of them seem really off. < 1470184197 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This PATH contains C:\BC45\BIN;C:\IEXPLORE;C:\ANIPAINT;C:\CPQDOS;C:\;C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\MOUSE;C:\SB16;C:\PGP;C:\SE;C:\MCAFEE;C:\PMAIL;c:\cdtsr but I'm... a bit suspicious. < 1470184232 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1470184256 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what all that stuff even is.) < 1470184324 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember using 4dos a lot. < 1470184346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember borland turbo-c < 1470184349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was tg < 1470184354 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\PATH contains the joe editor, mouse, the more frequently used compressors (pkzip, pkunzip, arj, rar), setup.bat that invokes c:\windows\setup because otherwise c:\dos\setup (which is useless) would shadow it, and a few other things < 1470184367 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470184459 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: does the amount of Cylinders Heads and Sectors matter for the DOS img? i bet it does < 1470184504 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: it sort of might matter. but you can set it to any sane amount. < 1470184510 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I'm not sure it matters < 1470184515 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it matters only for fdisk basically < 1470184520 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything else uses lba < 1470184536 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdisk just makes sure to write the partition table to cylinder boundary to make it compatible with old stuff < 1470184548 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not really sure < 1470184557 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :set it sanely and then you can't have a problem < 1470184573 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically just set it to 63,255 and as many cylinders as completely fit) < 1470184586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make sure the bios (emulator) and the partition table agree in them < 1470184597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470184624 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its complaining it cant open the drive image, wtf? < 1470184624 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best way for that is to erase the disk to all zeros (not only the partition table, but where each boot sector goes) and then create them with fdisk and format < 1470184655 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i get for using it on windows *shrug* < 1470184659 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that dos (including the format program) is stupid, and will believe some values in the mbr AND the old boot sector blindly, which is why you should zero the boot sector before formatting a drive < 1470184662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fdisk doesn't zero it < 1470184669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is old dos lore) < 1470184716 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so start from a clean all zeros hard disk image, boot from boot floppy, partition hard disk with DOS fdisk, reboot, boot from boot floppy, use DOS format command < 1470184723 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470184723 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's safe to copy data in there < 1470184794 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its unable to find the disk when i have the path everything and all that, its complaining < 1470184795 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470184808 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget to tell fdisk to make the mbr bootable (set boot partition) < 1470184832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND to make the file system bootable by formatting it with format /s or with the DOS sys command after it's formatted ( < 1470184833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470184848 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not loading the floppy for some odd reason < 1470184892 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NVM there it goes < 1470184921 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470184936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470184941 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470184968 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and virtualbox uses some custom disk format for hard disk, not raw hard disk image, so either you have to create the hard disk image with virtualbox, or use some arcane incantations to virtual box to turn a raw image to its favourite format < 1470184978 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik < 1470184988 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using bochs, i had it installed, but didnt like it < 1470184995 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i got it working < 1470184997 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470185002 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try raw qemu too < 1470185031 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get what discs are avaliable? < 1470185081 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: um, what do you mean? < 1470185089 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drives < 1470185100 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What drives are avaliable < 1470185255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, from what? dos? bochs? < 1470185260 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside? inside? < 1470185288 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS < 1470185300 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Srry about being uninformative :P < 1470185366 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the fdisk utility, it's interactive and console-based (there's a non-interactive read-only more), it tells how many hard disks the bios sees and how many partitions dos sees on them < 1470185389 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately the de and ndd programs from norton utilities also tell how many physical disks you have < 1470185492 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then dos sees the partitions as logical disks, denoted by C:, D:, etc, but those letters also include ram drives and cd drives and possibly other, which programs can access logical sector-based through dos, or the file system on them if there's one < 1470185506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :format formats the logical disks < 1470185537 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cds work differently though < 1470185540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still get a drive letter < 1470185615 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and lba sectors are numbered from 1, there's no sector 0 < 1470185622 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one confuses the hell out of me all the time < 1470185625 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful with it < 1470185628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sector 1 is the boot sector < 1470185640 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sector number 0 is not used for arcane historical reasons < 1470185823 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470185831 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1470185833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno how this works < 1470185836 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1470185865 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470185968 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tip: PowerISO is cancer, dont even peek like it did, i opened installer, and it was offering me random software < 1470185982 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deleted\ < 1470186196 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my joe-editor for dos is about 260 kilobytes in size (not copressed) it seems, including the executable and config file (that's all you need to run) but not sources < 1470186227 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: tell use how you fare with this < 1470186244 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470186273 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Virtualbox finally got that emulator bug fixed, it can now run that one version of the linux kernal that it used to cause a race on < 1470186309 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: as in, tell me later if you manage to get it working, or where you're stuck < 1470186314 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470186864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470187357 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470187632 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470188223 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470188692 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470189112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470189346 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b7:8a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470189801 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470189809 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas? < 1470189819 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas? < 1470189847 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, anyone know how to prevent people from formating C:\ on MS DOS 6.22? < 1470190033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :handcuffs hth < 1470190055 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, this is in bochs if it help < 1470190097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't because i have no clue hth < 1470190152 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470190365 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: linguistics < 1470190380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: linguistics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470190494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastfiles < 1470190501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nundrum < 1470191159 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470191411 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1470191413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1470191428 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1470191429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1470191441 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds well-rounded. < 1470191447 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GALLERY CHICKEN < 1470192093 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470192251 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470193331 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470193385 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470193572 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470193762 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470194748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470194761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the phrase "ugly as sin" < 1470194771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, trig functions are awesome < 1470194825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1470194842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cos you deserved it. < 1470195000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a wikipedia article for "List of crazy shit said by Donald J. Trump" break NPOV? < 1470195032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obviously, not with that name- probably more along the lines of "List of controversial statements made by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential race" < 1470195034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470195044 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1470195055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Probably not which way? < 1470195068 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not NPOV < 1470195076 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, while it is obviously getting /really/ close to NPOV, Trump DOES say a LOT of crazy things that it would be nice to have a neutral lookup of < 1470195101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they'd have to make one for hillary too, then. < 1470195122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump is probably basically that < 1470195126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well of course < 1470195182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And honestly, saying "Donald Trump is an emotionally-unstable compulsive liar" probably doesn't really break NPOV at this point < 1470195212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Trump said Snowden should be "executed" < 1470195381 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: he probably won't say that now, now that russia is on his side < 1470195590 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"List of changes to the political positions of Donald Trump" < 1470196443 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470196582 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470196710 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470197901 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470198115 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470198173 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470198218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( much adu about nothing ) < 1470198260 0 :Qbitn!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470198347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is a paper I can point someone to that has a formal definition of Leibniz's dy/dx notation? < 1470199071 0 :Qbitn!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470199276 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex... isn't here < 1470199277 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1470199352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470200114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: he's in another channel. < 1470200186 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really need to be formal about it? just divide the height thingy d^2 by the width (dx)^2 to get the slope, then simplify using (dx)^2 = dx^2 < 1470201371 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have a book about the hyperreals somewhere < 1470201379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hyperreals are scow. < 1470201392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in NSA they define dy/dx to mean something like the real part of some expression. < 1470201397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not literally dy divided by dx < 1470201909 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non standard (crypt-)analysis < 1470202094 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the derivative of y is the standard (non infinitesimal) part of dy/dx < 1470202121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. So dy/du du/dx = dy/dx doesn't make sense seen as canceling. < 1470202157 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it does if you use the various properties of the st() function < 1470202339 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, the property st(xy) = st(x)st(y) : x,y finite < 1470203303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much chance of getting a break in girl genius < 1470203356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes zeetha and dimo won't get wasped
< 1470203447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or violetta, hm < 1470204883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470204941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found an xkcd I haven't seen before :D < 1470204945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/679/ < 1470205117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: SPOILERS tdnh < 1470205219 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470206345 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470206409 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470206492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470206970 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470207935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry :( < 1470207951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably forget it by the time I read GG. < 1470207953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever do. < 1470207988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1470208018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure my spoiler wasn't precise enough to matter unless you've been recently following. < 1470208045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to make you feel bad. < 1470208055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be the one who's apologizing. < 1470208061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXACTLY < 1470208098 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470208121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does the notation dy/dx mean? < 1470208126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please advise. < 1470208135 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470208153 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo < 1470208173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if y is a function f(x) then it means lim h -> 0 (f(x+h)-f(x))/h, hth < 1470208183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-a function < 1470208219 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y is a function or an expression? < 1470208231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already corrected it < 1470208238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is y an expression? < 1470208241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1470208248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does dy/dx mean D(\x.y)(x)? < 1470208260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much. < 1470208265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was thinking. < 1470208278 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470208280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now people say things like y^2 = x^2; d/dx both sides to get dy/dx = x/y < 1470208287 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's dy/dx in that case? < 1470208305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC < 1470208372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, really the same thing. < 1470208424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When y isn't an expression in terms of x? < 1470208429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just assuming y is some expression in x. < 1470208446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to solve for it, or something. < 1470208447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you use D if you can't make a function \x.y? < 1470208479 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of y as a meta-variable? < 1470208487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never meta-variable I didn't like. < 1470208492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure how it helps here. < 1470208509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course then they'll turn it around and solve x in terms of y. < 1470208554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One property of dy/dx is that dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx) < 1470208577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1470208600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you can do is to think of this as both x and y being expressions in a third variable < 1470208660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208684 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? Wheres my jick? My client pinged me < 1470208688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an arbitrary nonzero constant, even. < 1470208697 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1470208698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: when? < 1470208715 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its highlighting (oerjan) and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208718 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf < 1470208743 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* onetime only i bet < 1470208773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208783 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highlighted it again < 1470208784 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf < 1470208793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1470208800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twotime only i bet < 1470208817 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got pinged somewhere else just now, also a apparently random highlight, wtf < 1470208833 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irc had better explain < 1470208844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's your client doing that hth < 1470208881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470208888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :check if it has some highlight settings. < 1470208890 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill check my HL filters < 1470208904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, binary search! < 1470208912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then dy = dy/dt * dt, wh < 1470208925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where dt is just a formal term. < 1470208930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you gotta be more like a cpu < 1470208935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :start branch predicting hth < 1470208955 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh lol there was a stray 'a' in my j=highlight settings < 1470208958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to predict without data < 1470208972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, binary search is maximally unpredictable anyway. < 1470208978 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the whole point. < 1470209004 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But predicting nothing is worse than a wrong prediction. < 1470209011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you care about spam, that is. < 1470209014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 allquotes < 1470209018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/496:1) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 4) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. \ 5) His body should be given to science. He's alive :P Even so. \ 6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 7) TODO: < 1470209036 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy < 1470209143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway, what justifies the whole thing where you separate the dy and the dx? < 1470209156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC < 1470209158 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx = y -> dy = y dx < 1470209184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, is not like i formally know this. < 1470209202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one formally knows this. < 1470209204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the thing. < 1470209208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they all use it and it works somehow. < 1470209225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence?! < 1470209300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, can you do these tricks on derivatives with types? < 1470209309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1470209330 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. T = T^7, so dT/dT = dT^7/dT, so 7*T^6 = 1 < 1470209436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sidles away
< 1470209978 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470210133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(x) = 1 + x*L(x), so dL(x)/dx = L(x) + x*dL(x)/dx < 1470210134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. < 1470210271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? that's just differentiating multiplication. < 1470210827 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470211365 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470211578 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1470211756 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:693a:705c:8bb4:7898 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470211889 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:e536:38ec:f41e:10cc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470214295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470214399 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470214665 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hmph, anyone know how to prevent people from formating C:\ on MS DOS 6.22?" => I think you don't understand how DOS works. DOS allows all programs full access to your system. Including booting a linux. Make backups if you have sensitive data. < 1470215389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you didn't ping him < 1470215772 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? there were a lot of 'a's in that line < 1470215782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470215815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i think it was only "a" as a single word, although there's one there. < 1470215984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: you've been unpinged hth < 1470216002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look overly present. < 1470216099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochythedog < 1470216289 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470217010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470217216 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon__: ^ < 1470220209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoop, the wiki recent-changes bridge seems to have gone away again. < 1470221083 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99e1:3455:87ab:f24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470221955 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470222034 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222654 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rycdbeuogvbaahqc QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470222783 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qruqbindfjykzocr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470222815 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gemzmhnsemfzgdir JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222866 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470222964 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470223292 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1470224231 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225654 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225665 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470225706 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:99e1:3455:87ab:f24 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470225708 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ENTITY CHICKEN < 1470225737 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470225756 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470225778 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470227584 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so a unitary matrix is a square-shaped complex matrix whose columns are unit length and pairwise orthogonal, but if it's a real matrix then it's called an orthogonal matrix instead of a unitary matrix, and if it's a Christian religious denomination then they call it unitarian instead. < 1470227599 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this terminology is confusing, especially if you also add the Hungarian translations. < 1470228004 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470228163 0 :singingboyo!~brandonso@d173-183-116-79.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470229888 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470230605 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470230983 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49067&oldid=47098 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+41) 10Added a link to my implementation < 1470231057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49068&oldid=49067 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (-77) 10y u lie < 1470231243 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470231452 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470233771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470234048 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470234066 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470234289 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470235108 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470236053 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what would happen if you took a board designed to be used with a main processor, but noted that you couldn't use the main processor and could only use the co-processor? (The main processor would be responsible for initial data upload to the co-processor, though) < 1470236073 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that, for sufficiently annoying-to-use co-processors, be esoteric? :) < 1470236247 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: do you mean a coprocessor like in the Sega Saturn which has two equally powerful processors, or a coprocessor as in an intel 80387 which is totally impossible to use without a 386 because it can't even sequence instructions or compute addresses on its own, or a graphics processor in a modern day computer? < 1470236266 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was thinking the J1 coprocessor in the Gameduino. < 1470236341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or say the processor in a large printer or printer-scanner on which you can even play Doom, or the processor in the router which runs linux or bsd even when your desktop is turned off, or the small processor in the keyboard, or the processor in ... < 1470236355 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days we have powerful processors everywhere < 1470236439 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, hence I was thinking of a specific hardware platform in which the coprocessor has, among other things: < 1470236571 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :code size limitations, and pretty much all available RAM (afaik not usable as code) is used for some hardware feature or another (so you have to make a choice between RAM or video) < 1470236616 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, you could sacrifice tile RAM, or maybe sacrifice sprite palettes/sprite image data) < 1470236662 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ofc you can still use the other sprite image RAM areas, but it still means you have less sprite images available) < 1470236678 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470237475 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238337 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238491 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sounds like graphics code < 1470238664 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49069&oldid=49068 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+25) 10 < 1470238897 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470238962 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470238992 0 :sebbu3!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1470241108 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470242543 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SetBang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49070&oldid=47016 5* 0363.116.152.166 5* (+107) 10Third blog post. < 1470242896 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, new setbang post < 1470242947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470242954 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a language is good for job security, I doubt I want to use it < 1470242980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's usually "you go and everything collapses" kind of security < 1470246353 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a language recently where everything is a pointer to a pointer to a pointer? < 1470246391 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could only do pinter arithmentic indirected through sevarl pointers as the only opearion? < 1470246404 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: 3*? < 1470246410 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1470246417 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however it was stylised < 1470246422 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried doing some stuff with that < 1470246428 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was fun < 1470246449 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three star programmer < 1470246481 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: was that the name of the language, or are you calling me one? < 1470246543 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the name < 1470247036 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470247045 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, both would be correct, then :P < 1470248019 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470248041 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please explain why 'Refrigerator' is in the topic < 1470248101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470248125 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too hot without it < 1470248211 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1470248225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheDwarf_: its the last line of the haiku < 1470248234 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470248277 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :telekinetic interdisciplinary refrigerator < 1470248439 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ...because anything can be interdisciplinary, right? < 1470249566 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470249579 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470249579 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1470249785 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $'\357\273\277' < 1470249798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1470250191 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: duh < 1470251224 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :refigerator also has five syllables in Japanese < 1470251635 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:654c:59b4:e26:3afd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470251864 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:654c:59b4:e26:3afd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470251865 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470252344 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanyone know how to set up serial over network for bochs? < 1470252566 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d125:4915:bf9f:68b3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470252652 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470252876 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470253114 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-204-150.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470253372 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@77-255-204-150.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470254179 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470255746 0 :MoonyTheDwarf_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470256393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470256412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horseshoe Theory is fun < 1470256422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can combine it with the Political Compass or something... < 1470256642 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470256856 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: don't work in /tmp if it's a tmpfs and there's the slightest chance of a power fail < 1470257577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: Follow all protips you see, because they're usually good advice < 1470257616 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProtIP: protects your IP address. < 1470257678 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d125:4915:bf9f:68b3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470258153 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you don't? D: < 1470258171 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :will hackers find where i live and tell isis to kidnap my dog? < 1470258180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New favorite hard-to-parse-but-still valid ("garden path") sentence: Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like? < 1470258190 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends... do you have a dog? < 1470258193 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1470258195 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1470258199 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no. < 1470258202 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470258204 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1470258207 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they know it? < 1470258277 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from ypur ip, dude < 1470258302 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to stop using Isabelle for today... I'm starting to find "by auto blast" amusing. < 1470258303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they just check the dog bit < 1470258333 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get one of those fancy new dynamic ips < 1470258343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch bit? < 1470258738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We shouldn't use Appeals to Tradition in debates because they've always been considered invalid arguments < 1470258832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non sequiturs are a bad form of reasoning because space monkeys are trying to conquer the moon < 1470258969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1470258973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that you're arguing against classes of arguments by using those arguments themselves < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who invoke Ad Hominem are assholes < 1470258974 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! Ad Hominem apparently translates to "against the man" < 1470258974 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefor, hippies can be called "Ad Hominites" < 1470258974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad poochinem < 1470259064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we allow Appeal to Fear to be used, then Trump will be elected < 1470259099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about appeal to rudeness < 1470259241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being rude now < 1470259241 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's ok < 1470259242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My preferred argument is Appeal to the Supreme Court < 1470259242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470259315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the argument I like to use the most is (1) take the opponent's basic claim/evidence, assume it's true (letting other people debunk that, as I usually do mass debating) (2) show that, even if their evidence is true, their conclusion is still stupid because, once you calculate statistics, their are several other possibilities < 1470259326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, Trump claimed he saw New Jersey muslims cheering on 9/11 < 1470259362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the math and found that there are a few thousand muslims in New Jersey whose birthday was on 9/11, so even if he did see that, it could very well have been a coincidence < 1470259475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prays that that doesn't have any glaring flaws
< 1470259792 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you came up with a pathetic excuse for something that didn't happen in the first place < 1470259831 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :only making your opponent look more credible than you < 1470259938 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470259960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Carl is a jackass." - Wikipedia, and not in the context of a quote < 1470260172 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470260855 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: http://retroprogramming.com < 1470260878 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260889 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nundrum//A nundrum is the categorical dual of a conundrum: a problem whose solution is useless. < 1470260912 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260913 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470260935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing//Turing is what you are doing when you Tur < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid//A monoid is the easy version of a category. < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexchat//Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexham. < 1470260943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clbin//clbin is a "command line pastebin" web application: https://clbin.com < 1470261008 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "turing" meant "using the Internet". < 1470261099 0 :Jafet!~jafet@175.145.172.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470261219 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470261360 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470261395 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470261418 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got a amazing 46 FPS on a max size embark (dwarf fortress 0.43.05, 64bit) < 1470261542 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470261777 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now flood the map with magma and see that go down to less than one < 1470261862 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470261874 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already halved, vut arill, 46 starting fps is new < 1470262178 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470262239 0 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-220.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470262338 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf, mhelloon___, hellorin! < 1470262365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily yo < 1470262439 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1470262606 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470262606 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470262633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1470262747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits clbin < 1470262755 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dipperswett < 1470263085 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470263147 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470263147 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1470263158 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1470263311 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :MoonyTheHuman < 1470263386 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470263412 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470263428 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470263719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellwob_jonas! < 1470263816 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470263834 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470264021 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470264030 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the large fast SD card I ordered hasn't arrived, even though the delivery was estimated for up to today, and it comes from the UK < 1470264072 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470264147 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1470264149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-03 21:42:19.388000000+00:00 < 1470264161 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is faraway hth < 1470264187 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, I heard scary stories < 1470264250 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Taneb is a nazgûl? < 1470264655 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi wob_jonas < 1470264695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... if I digitally edit the airplane boarding pass to remove the LARGE ADS WITH FULL-COLOR PHOTO THAT TAKE UP A THIRD OF THE SHEET to conserve ink, but keep the barcodes and text data, would that be crazy of me? < 1470264986 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470265019 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265091 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3859:70f0:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U4kg2cHyP6k/URLY6BOsypI/AAAAAAAAA6E/HGLOlRU1HBc/s1222/foxnewsprime.jpg < 1470265184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody needs to die < 1470265359 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470265474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. this makes me angry. < 1470265497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Me too. < 1470265506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will find that article and execute the writer. < 1470265516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone needs to die. < 1470265525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I particularly don't think you should talk about killing people. < 1470265526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullet to the stomach seems appropriate, unless there's something more ironic < 1470265527 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't. < 1470265532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, stop it. < 1470265544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there any more ironic, less illegal response? < 1470265553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know or care. < 1470265574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, your jokes in here aren't funny anyway. I just ignore them. < 1470265583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is crossing some line. < 1470265602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1470265618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't so much joking as I was appalled and angry < 1470265621 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/serenity.png ) < 1470265643 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything appalling. < 1470265661 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for the bit where you're talking about murdering people. < 1470265673 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A person who was tasked with writing a news article that would be read by many Americans about math said that prime number have "very little importance" < 1470265680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/number/numbers/ < 1470265687 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: tswett < 1470265692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was just one guy being an idiot to himself, it'd be fine < 1470265701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ? < 1470265704 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is an article that will be read by lots of people < 1470265713 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prime numbers have very little importance. < 1470265734 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470265735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas death threats or whatever have a lot more importance. < 1470265749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure prime numbers have a lot of importance to society < 1470265754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, y'know, encryption < 1470265777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Small amount of imortance. You can do encryption without prime numbers. < 1470265792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not the point. Even if that person is wrong, your behavior is unacceptable. < 1470265813 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I request that you stop. < 1470265820 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1470265832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1470265891 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read this over. ??? never seen hppavilion[1] use that bad of a joke >_> < 1470265908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman: It's what happens when I'm angry < 1470265927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And keep in mind, I saw that in the middle of a long line of fox news fails and lies < 1470265955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, several disproportionate bar graphs where an increase of 1 would be represented as 8 times as much < 1470265962 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a coping mechanism, though a bit leaky < 1470265991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, I see now. < 1470266015 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just don't do news < 1470266044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I have family that watches Fox News exclusively, so this is personal for me < 1470266066 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :american problems < 1470266080 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. serenity? < 1470266087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So on a different note < 1470266092 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. Gimmie the latest D-Wave computer and a good prime number calculator. done. moar < 1470266096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a better form of math education in the US < 1470266109 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1470266124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What classes should be mandatory (at what grades can they be taken, what grades must they be taken by), what do they cover, what options should be mandatorily available? < 1470266127 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wquehbmldwgvaurz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470266148 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres one: Vector\ < 1470266155 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf please stop being such a grumpy codger < 1470266177 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you hppavilion[1] anyway < 1470266207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no u < 1470266244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as long as I avoid reading between the lines < 1470266285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Perhaps I should use an IRC client that supports temporarily showing ignored text. < 1470266289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...object to answer? < 1470266306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think schools should teach logic of some sort < 1470266325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, a half-semester class where they go over logical fallacies and say why they're wrong and you shouldn't use them) < 1470266334 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that less people get reasonable grades? < 1470266337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how logical fallacies work < 1470266338 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470266346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think it is? < 1470266422 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i have to tell you a truth < 1470266429 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are stupid < 1470266432 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deal with it < 1470266432 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :'logical fallacies' with the latin name and shit are kind of useless < 1470266441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: On average, people are average intelligence. < 1470266458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Not really; and it would cover informal ones too < 1470266464 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that doesn't make most of the people less stupid < 1470266487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cognitive biases are the empirically-measurable equivalent and they don't work like a little book of Reasons People Are Wrong Online < 1470266492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: True Scotsmen get to skip the class) < 1470266544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470266628 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jhxbhcxcfmxkxqvo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470266661 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just opened my first pickled peppers. they taste good ^^ < 1470266764 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go full UEF and try to coach people out of the fundamental attribution error but i imagine it'd be p tricky in real life < 1470266848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :baroi lyereko < 1470266878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternoon, oerjan. < 1470266889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening, shachaf. < 1470266965 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( baroi lyereko??? I have no fungotting clue... ) < 1470266966 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oct. 19, 2000 < 1470266970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that his procedure for reading the logs has become ridiculously convoluted.
< 1470266976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How d'you do? < 1470266979 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1470266980 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoerjani < 1470266991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evenint-e < 1470267011 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubusuku oerjabuhle < 1470267014 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not quite the same https://xkcd.com/609/ < 1470267019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's transliterated, anyway. < 1470267034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ukrainian? < 1470267063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there a rickrolling wiki ) < 1470267068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1470267106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume ukrainian would use something dobry-like, like any good slavic language? < 1470267153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has to cheat, anyway.
< 1470267165 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, dobroho večora. < 1470267165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i can guess it's a bantu language? < 1470267182 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xhosa. < 1470267188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1470267192 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours is some sami variant? < 1470267194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1470267204 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1470267205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: jolly good show, old chap < 1470267211 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (never) I (gonna) sincerely (give) hope (you) that (up) there (never) is (gonna) no (let) such (you) thing! (down!) < 1470267248 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION subliminally mapoles int-e
< 1470267263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't used sami because the phrases i found did not seem to attach well to boily. < 1470267275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afair. < 1470267315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hint? < 1470267322 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470267344 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, still searching. < 1470267389 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :found! < 1470267393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eastern armenian. < 1470267437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: to read the logs, i'm (1) making sure tunes is shown in utf-8 (it isn't always. in some cases i cannot even show it but have to save.) (2) copy into vim (3) break lines (4) load file in browser. < 1470267496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds complicated. < 1470267499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should automate it. < 1470267518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the line breaking is convoluted too. i should make a macro. < 1470267552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it convoluted? < 1470267573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yep < 1470267591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1470267593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L½ŒÛµìüª¦¼Ð’ÝæÕ}9´Ï]Jm玅¾í[¸Ï¯0³óUÔ.Fi¸ < 1470267602 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :short, that time < 1470267615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a normal mode command that only inserts one break (and indent) per affected line, so i repeat until it stops. < 1470267689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::%s/\(.\{75\}\) /\1^M / < 1470267757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you make a small web page that fetches the latest log, applies transformation, and serves it to your browser? < 1470267767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1470267791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you could just go to that URL directly. It'd be so easy. < 1470267838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot the step where i sometimes join two days hth < 1470267865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that too. < 1470267879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With only a small amount of work you can ask for the logs for any time interval. < 1470267890 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470267915 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1470268078 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1470268100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so ghc is going to get a "bespoke" keyword. < 1470268106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in deriving clauses) < 1470268121 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1470268144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a word i'm intuitively familiar with, although the dictionary meaning _does_ fit. < 1470268190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it means to apply the specialized deriving method for a builtin class.) < 1470268222 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1470268229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it may not be used that much, being the default whenever applicable. < 1470268251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope.) < 1470268392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470268521 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470269321 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also type "view-source:" in front of the URL to force it to display in the browser (at least this works for Firefox and other Mozilla-based browsers). < 1470269410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work in Mozilla Navigator? < 1470269560 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, do you play Dominion? < 1470269572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly. < 1470269581 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ais523 isn't here, I wanted to tell him thanks for being a good historian < 1470269605 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... whatever you call it when someone meticulously documents stuff for the benefit of future historians < 1470269638 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A HistoryProvider. < 1470269665 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've played Dominion once at a birthday party. If that's referring to the card game. < 1470269671 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470269688 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned the rules and might try playing through the tutorial tonight < 1470269706 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's evenly matched like Prismata but has RNG < 1470269753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then let's play Prismata. < 1470269763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie can play too. < 1470269806 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, but no-thanks. Sounds too reasonable a thing to do. < 1470269823 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1470269904 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg07043.html
< 1470270190 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470270520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: chronicler? < 1470270552 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that was an office in Agora that I apparently held but don't remember holding < 1470270657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stealthily takes a DNA sample of MoonyThe"Human"
< 1470270718 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, too busy messing with DF raws < 1470270744 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making cats highly volatile < 1470270749 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun < 1470270810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts the sample into the analyzer
< 1470270881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470270885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why the analyzer ran away screaming
< 1470270917 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470270919 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470270939 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman: you aren't human. you're a moon hth < 1470270953 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, like Prozac the Bear? < 1470270992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's no moon! < 1470270993 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what i am, have a list of usernames: MoonyTheHuman, qbitn, MoonyTheDwarf, moon, moon_, moon__, moon___, moonheart08 < 1470271015 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that qbitn is new, i wanted something original :P < 1470271064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Prozac the Bear, that was a long time ago. i don't even remember clearly what he was. < 1470271081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh qbitn was you? < 1470271095 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3859:70f0:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470271114 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just added [DAMBLOCK:1] to cats < 1470271129 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i make it higher < 1470271203 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470271218 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Triangle and Robert character < 1470271258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: i know that. i just don't remember how far he was from being a bear. probably a lot, given the comic. < 1470271279 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was a Prozac < 1470271327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1470271331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1470271335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1470271336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s-doesn't exist-exists- < 1470271386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric/s/about/a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about/ < 1470271419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1470271430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s/about/a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about/ < 1470271434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiled < 1470271434 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep burrito wisdom < 1470271476 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric:#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperburrito about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I protest. < 1470271496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s#burrito#whatever# < 1470271498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperwhatever about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just about anything is an improvement over burrito jokes. < 1470271552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but the original has taco ;_; < 1470271575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Original? < 1470271579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd #esoteric//s#whatever#enchilada# < 1470271582 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/#esoteric//#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1470271582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :7-tacodimensional? < 1470271595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: triangle and robert's world is a 4-dimension hypertaco hth < 1470272096 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470272688 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470273617 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[BODY:QUADRUPED_NECK:2EYES:4EARS:8NOSE:16LUNGS:32HEART:64GUTS:128ORGANS:256THROAT:512NECK:1024SPINE:2048BRAIN] << i seriously regret putting this on cats < 1470274180 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470274311 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. are they the number of body parts, or some other random stats? < 1470274705 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470275063 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of parts < 1470275073 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1470275079 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was something else < 1470275130 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot may you have mercy on us all... < 1470275130 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to find. initiates my bad reaction of companies that the attached and let it go with maureen's december 22nd. < 1470275153 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will try to not have nightmares about these Teratomorphic Kitties
< 1470275238 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow in this DF world Dingo Men are the most successful < 1470275240 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew < 1470275260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470275261 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew < 1470275264 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew? < 1470275348 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470275390 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wew < 1470275393 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wew? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470275541 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :W E W L A D < 1470275541 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :E < 1470275542 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :W < 1470275543 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :L < 1470275544 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1470275545 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1470275747 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confusingly mapoles Phantom_Hoover
< 1470276148 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470276162 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is boily still doing here < 1470276230 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where is oerjan? < 1470276244 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im busy beheading my monstercats in DF < 1470276255 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1470276255 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470276270 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep oneshotting them >_> < 1470276292 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470276309 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdnh < 1470276334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan do you beer < 1470276355 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and they have 2048 brains bythe way < 1470276415 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :svmdnh < 1470276430 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4EARS:8NOSE:16LUNGS:32HEART:64GUTS:128ORGANS:256THROAT:512NECK:1024SPINE:2048BRAIN < 1470276433 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is ur list < 1470276449 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgbqintjraskqgns QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470276580 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470276639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not there. I am an illusion. < 1470276650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flees and hides under covers
< 1470276657 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PRIMITIVE CHICKEN < 1470276889 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MoonyTheHuman, this reminds me of a story i red < 1470276891 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*read < 1470276999 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470277516 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470277675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i am not sure when's the last time i beered. it may have been a family visit some years ago. on rare occasions i cognac or aquavit. hm, i haven't had wine in a while either. < 1470278592 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470278627 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470278703 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470278757 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470279012 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just tried a Nøgne Ø doible IPA and it was pretty bad so so far norways beer performance is a bit lacking < 1470279021 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aquavit is good tho < 1470279318 0 :MoonyTheHuman!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470279459 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470279568 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. Anyone know of any macro extensible version of LOOP or other esolang that is basically at the primitive recursive function level of completeness? < 1470279586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a problem with the GHC user's guide. its table of contents needs a table of contents. < 1470279729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i got confused because BlooP is like the last part of that. < 1470279967 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking if combining something like such macro LOOP with something like Postscript display model or RIPSCRIP|NAPLPS plus outside eventlooping would yeild somewhat usable software whose turns|iteration of the eventloop are known to terminate* < 1470280056 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* property of primitive recursive functions that by construction they do terminate as the only backbranching (or backjumping) construct is a countdown loop whose counter is only set right before it is entered) < 1470280066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i Zarutian38 < 1470280137 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1470280277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1470280451 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP RIP < 1470280467 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' BBSes < 1470280609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Cale < 1470280622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Cale: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1470280641 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such colours < 1470280879 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welvomr < 1470280885 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damnit < 1470280935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s relcome bin/04w08e09l11c12o13m04e < 1470280940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470280954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`04w08e09l11c12o13m04e HackEgo < 1470280957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09HackEgo: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1470280964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like it tdh < 1470281014 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the choice of starting colour randomised, or based on the user's name? < 1470281021 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome HackEgo < 1470281023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1470281025 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, heh < 1470281032 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo < 1470281034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09HackEgo: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1470281039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/relcome < 1470281039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainwords < 1470281045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rainwords < 1470281045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/hackenv/bin/shebang_args_or_input python \ import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w) < 1470281190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that no one `relcomed Zarutian, but isn't sure whether e's new or not.
< 1470281242 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, hackego is a sandboxed linux system < 1470281265 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haha, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow-growing_hierarchy#Relation_to_fast-growing_hierarchy < 1470281339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That article title looks like a joke. < 1470281384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is great. < 1470281434 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what HackEgo would do with: curl -sS https://gist.githubusercontent.com/zarutian/9191d98f731241a52e1a4f6a59dd0587/raw/f4b7cee07dea66e8721ded9559059245e79bdf9b/test.sh | tee test.sh | openssl dgst -sha256 | { read k; if [ "$k" == "113b61457034e72b9a12eb875df5ed71e265dcc6105c00e472187d30c0cc8c88" ] ; then source test.sh ; else echo "failed"; fi }
< 1470281468 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No network access < 1470281481 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curl doesnt exist to hackego anyways < 1470281549 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw that is a demostration of a better curlpipebash though such things are still rather bad < 1470281642 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo -n "bla" | openssl dgst -sha256 < 1470281644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-n "bla" | openssl dgst -sha256 < 1470281686 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use `` for multiple args < 1470281697 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont forget the space < 1470281709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can /msg HackEgo to try things out. < 1470281717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make sure that if you change anything you do it in the channel. < 1470281718 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n "bla" | openssl dgst -sha256 < 1470281720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ (stdin)= 4df3c3f68fcc83b27e9d42c90431a72499f17875c81a599b566c9889b9696703 < 1470281754 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470282199 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mustard watch < 1470282201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mustard watch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470282302 0 :moonythedwarf!~androirc@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470282346 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470282388 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470282407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn mustard watch/A mustard watch is just a classical watch extended with a certain amount of mustard in the mechanism. < 1470282410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «mustard watch» < 1470282572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470283210 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470284338 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470284356 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470284384 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470284538 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470286285 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470286802 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470287419 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470287426 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sup brainfuckers ;) < 1470288045 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288157 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470288189 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288373 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470288402 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288520 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470288543 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unusually quiet in here tonight. < 1470288545 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470288676 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470288988 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470289012 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470289251 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470289257 0 :mrSynAckster!~mrSynAcks@ool-18b91eb3.dyn.optonline.net PART #esoteric : < 1470289353 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470289411 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470290452 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470291471 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1470291486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1470292022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taste < 1470292024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taste? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470292030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flavor < 1470292032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flavor? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470292034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flavour < 1470292035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flavour? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470292038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1470292055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep 'of the day' wisdom < 1470292064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/markdown:The markdown flavor of the day is walnut. < 1470292096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd markdown//s/walnut/camphor/ < 1470292100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/markdown//The markdown flavor of the day is camphor. < 1470292495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The number of the hour is 14. < 1470292497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'number': The number of the hour is 14. < 1470292543 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I added the program to make hint files into FreeUHS. < 1470292564 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please look at the documentation and tell me if it is good or not good or whatever. < 1470292577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't provide a link to the documentation. < 1470292626 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.npmjs.com/package/freeuhs < 1470292792 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has JSON export and SQL export. < 1470294778 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470297735 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470299245 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470300704 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470300871 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470301348 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plyorrkkwrstuhyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470302173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470303997 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jhxbhcxcfmxkxqvo QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470304012 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-efkeafpybyzslkdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470304103 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3814:e19a:28b3:244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470305002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: Will silence fall? < 1470305345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Falling on top of what? < 1470305362 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I type these messages on this computer, it makes noise; it doesn't silence. < 1470305535 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you threw silence off of a cliff, would it fall? < 1470305948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1470305982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump's odds of winning (according to five3eight) have dropped to about 25% < 1470306000 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. < 1470306228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: So instead, we'll probably get... Hillary < 1470306308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to injure both candidates so that they will not recover in time. < 1470306334 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. You'll probably get Hillary. I, on the other hand, will be sipping tea and watching as the rotten tomatoes get flung over that golf course I heard about. < 1470306378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1470306386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Where do you live and how hard will it be to flee there? < 1470306413 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one famous ship hit an iceberg when trying to get from here to where you are. < 1470306421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1470306424 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "here" is at the country level. < 1470306431 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that New York? < 1470306437 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1470306438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember the Titanic aiming for New York < 1470306439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470306441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada, then? < 1470306449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to be one of the two < 1470306453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the titanic was aiming for New York < 1470306459 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then where was it coming from? < 1470306468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm 99% certain that the Titanic was going west) < 1470306476 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(exactly) < 1470306483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russia? < 1470306486 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470306492 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :England! < 1470306495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470306502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Titanic was going East then? < 1470306505 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470306528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Europe is east of the U.S. < 1470306540 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. So if it was going *from* Europe < 1470306543 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to* the US < 1470306550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1470306553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG < 1470306562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it "to here from where you are" < 1470306578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then read it that way again repeatedly < 1470306586 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470306603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes and sits in the stupid hole
< 1470306611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives hppavilion[1] a biscuit
< 1470306639 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/531/391/b58.gif is what people hereabouts tend to use when they've done something like that. < 1470306677 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what on earth is that? < 1470306689 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the shame cube. < 1470306702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought it was the shame matrix of solidity? < 1470306725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where it's from. Know Your Meme just has the image in their gallery, no explanations. < 1470306728 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a box you can... meditate... in < 1470306790 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now I'm wondering why Portal doesn't feature one of those... it would fit perfectly) < 1470306837 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you could even use one to capture turrets. < 1470306897 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be much more turricula < 1470306908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be much more turriculane than the usual technique of knocking them over? < 1470306940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Maybe in Portal 3 < 1470307046 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :To jump back to the original conversation -- given recent events, I'd think fleeing to here is going to be increasingly difficult, what with this whole "get all them foreigners out" stuff. < 1470308414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But almost everyone in England is a foreigner. < 1470309644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, that's america < 1470309669 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, are we talking about immigration recently or about the fact that Americans are all immigrants unless they're native?) < 1470309676 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3814:e19a:28b3:244 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470309729 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about the fact that people in England tend not to be US citizens, under a US-centric view of the world. < 1470310553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1470310635 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470311019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoilyQ < 1470311022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Q/!/ < 1470311033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, do I need to escape bangs?) < 1470311105 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[!]1 < 1470311140 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you use them as /-substitutes hth < 1470312577 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312580 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312582 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470312652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470312669 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cia//CIA sees it all. < 1470312674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arabic//.scihpylgoreiH sa drah sa ton hguoht ,troppus stnof ekam ot drah yrev si taht egaugnal citimes lartnec a si cibarA < 1470312675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copower//Copower rrupts. < 1470312677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guestbot//guestbot is nobody < 1470312730 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fungot am I supposed to format wisdom/arabic in the PDF... < 1470312757 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd half a mind to delete it. < 1470312774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg guestbot < 1470312778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert accbc9c5c7ec \ echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ revert \ revert 1 \ revert \ for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ learn guestbot is nobody < 1470312789 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, by the look of it, it's just in reverse < 1470312791 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no special chars < 1470312802 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: feel free to revert it < 1470312819 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taht etalume tsuj os < 1470312923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1470312925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1470312927 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dog < 1470312929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470312930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pooch < 1470312931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470312935 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I'd like for the arabic part to be to the right. and maybe LaTeX supports character reflections, so it can really be RTL. < 1470312936 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zebra < 1470312937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zebra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470313045 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don't do character reflections for this. reflect the whole paragraph. < 1470313148 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuh... that's what I meant, just checking if somebody paid attention... < 1470313176 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the arabic entry shouldn't be reflected < 1470313195 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to whistle innocently, but only splits bits of peanut butter toast
< 1470313197 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should either just show it as is, or show it aligned to the right margin instead of the left < 1470313219 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss\split\ss\spit\ss < 1470313699 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long do you think it is before fandoms dominate enough of the world that politicians start having to pander to them? < 1470313713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, Ted Cruz officially* endorsed Applejack as best pony < 1470313727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weirdly < 1470313771 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: WORTHY CHICKEN < 1470314310 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hd wisdom/arabic < 1470314312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :000000 2e 73 63 69 68 70 79 6c 67 6f 72 65 69 48 20 73 >.scihpylgoreiH s< \ 000010 61 20 64 72 61 68 20 73 61 20 74 6f 6e 20 68 67 >a drah sa ton hg< \ 000020 75 6f 68 74 20 2c 74 72 6f 70 70 75 73 20 73 74 >uoht ,troppus st< \ 000030 6e 6f 66 20 65 6b 61 6d 20 6f 74 20 64 72 61 68 >nof ekam ot drah< \ 000040 20 79 72 65 76 20 73 69 20 74 61 68 < 1470314900 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ‮Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics. < 1470314901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics. < 1470314921 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many terminals display that correctly. < 1470314947 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of three. os x terminal.app, pangoterm, and one I can't remember the name of < 1470315053 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470315244 0 :bauen1_!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:693a:705c:8bb4:7898 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470315716 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: What counts as correctly, and what as incorrectly? < 1470315779 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw this (typed out rather than copy-pasted): "Arabic is a central semitic language that is very hard to make fonts support, though not as hard as Hieroglyphics." < 1470315788 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what it's supposed to look like? < 1470316386 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I see is ",troppus stnof ekam ot drah yrev si taht egaugnal citimes lartnec a si cibarA not as hard as Hieroglyphics." < 1470316410 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's also "hguoht" at the start. < 1470316421 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering where that "though" went. < 1470316592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470316902 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But which one is correct???? < 1470317484 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470317905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, then why didn't you say that, stupid error message? < 1470318213 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470319412 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that's a... novel interpretation of RTLO. < 1470319462 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, most articles about the RTLO seem to be about using it to spoof filename extensions. < 1470319571 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Blame the line break. < 1470319587 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, word-wrapping break. < 1470319614 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's after "cibarA" that it wraps to the next line. < 1470321074 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470321752 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470328965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BackFlip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49071&oldid=19937 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+513) 10/* Boolean Logic */ new section < 1470328986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BackFlip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49072&oldid=49071 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+92) 10/* Boolean Logic */ < 1470331060 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470331099 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470331182 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470331440 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470332429 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470332944 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470333102 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470334974 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470335571 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470337189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470337756 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a898:d7f1:be73:a3a1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470339642 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470341244 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know of a simple black-box testing framework I can use to test my esolang interpreter? As in, running my program with lots of different input and testing for output or performance regressions < 1470341267 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a home-made shell script currently, but it feels like I'm reinventing the wheel < 1470341331 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :home-made shell scripts are pretty useful to get things quickly. As long as you don't try embedding a scripting language into it... < 1470341344 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470341366 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a better way, but it depends what language your esolang interpreter is written in < 1470341413 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worked pretty well so far, but it only checks stdout/stderr output. I'd love to be able to monitor performance improvements/regressions, but that complicates things a lot < 1470341421 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, the interpreter is written in C < 1470341754 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps consider a define to load & run the test suite from a file (alternating code/input/output) then write out the test times to another file? < 1470341769 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you don't end up covering binary start times, which will always be off on the first test, < 1470341775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etcetc. < 1470341796 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's some complex stuff about caching which I don't think anybody entirely understands) < 1470341834 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe there should be a sysfs interface for finding out about - and potentially adding to - the cache...) < 1470341909 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a898:d7f1:be73:a3a1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470341916 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm gonna spend more time creating a test system than improving the interpreter < 1470342783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily USPS is chatting with Postes Canada to find out why this package was returned to me. They'll get back to me by Sep. 8. Is this too long to wait for redress y/n? < 1470342783 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470342890 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: That's true. You'd probably spend more time configuring any test system you get than the interpreter, anyway. < 1470342936 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: So, you'd probably end up spending more time either way than if you stick with the shell script... < 1470342985 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm sticking with the basic shell script for now. The only thing it lacks is performance testing, anyway < 1470343066 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easily doable just with a few additional lines in the program itself to check the time at the start & end. < 1470343226 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470343398 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470344107 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I think Cindercone is getting hacked. < 1470344257 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470344581 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the expected run time of a program that mmaps a 4gb file on a machine with less than 4gb free ram, and then writes a byte in 1 million random positions on that file? < 1470344618 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 5700rpm hdd < 1470344738 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around about 8.2zorks. The realtime values depend on, for starters, HDD density, kernel version, and magic. < 1470344766 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how much magic i get < 1470344769 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i test that? < 1470344784 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, it's not how much magic. < 1470344795 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just magic itself provides the answer. Kind of. < 1470344805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a lot to learn
< 1470344817 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in all seriousness, though, IDK? Try it and find out! :) < 1470344892 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure HDD density and kernel version are major factors, but so are things like "what else is currently causing HDD usage" and "what other programs does the kernel consider a priority..." < 1470344932 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if you were running two copies of this program, you'd get different results. < 1470345185 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the actual read granularity of modern drives? I imagine it could be larger than the typical 4kb page size... < 1470345284 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the drive, but most commonly it's 4k on new spinning rust. < 1470345319 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if it were 4kb, then you'd be loading about 1.47GB of data... if that fits in the RAM and the read heads don't have to move you're looking at about half an hour. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised to be off by a factor of 4 in either direction, and possibly more. < 1470345362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real answer is to measure, not guess. < 1470345365 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not reading in < 1470345382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel will read in < 1470345396 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok but it can discard each page as soon as it's read < 1470345414 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the slow part... writing out can be delayed and done in a nice escalator algorithm fashion so I expect it will actually be quite a bit faster. < 1470345422 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it won't. < 1470345444 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't unless you specifically tell it to with madvise. < 1470345446 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since you're going to read each sector approximately e times, it's actually worthwhile to keep them around < 1470345452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's try with madvise < 1470345475 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sectore/4kb block/ < 1470345511 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you say MADV_DONTNEED each time it still probably *won't* immediately flush to disk. < 1470345563 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, are MADV_DONTNEED pages zeroed eagerly? < 1470345582 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED < 1470345590 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the man page isn't clear about it < 1470345601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just realiizing that I know dangerously little about the specifics of Linux' memory management) < 1470345639 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: They're not zeroed *at all*. < 1470345667 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: afaiui there's a pool of zeroed pages for mmap of /dev/zero. < 1470345695 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_DONTNEED only informs the kernel that a given memory range won't be accessed soon, so the kernel is free to discard the in-memory page (in which case reads will trigger a load from the backing store). < 1470345702 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is very useful because the C library likes to satsify large calloc requests that way < 1470345723 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and malloc... not clearing pages would produce data leaks) < 1470345738 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470345739 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470345767 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_FREE does MADV_DONTNEED, but if it discards the in-memory page it will zero-fill on demand (i.e. COW a zero page) instead of loading from backing store. < 1470345797 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MADV_DONTNEED also works on any memory mapping, while MADV_FREE only works on private anonymous pages. < 1470345843 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's totally not in the man page < 1470345858 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is < 1470345863 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: MADV_DONTNEED is a minor potential optimization for reducing the working set. MADV_FREE is usable by a malloc's free() implementation. < 1470345867 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1470345874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U MADV < 1470345878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1470345894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're just as helpful as usual < 1470345904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have the same feel to it now that elliott is gone. < 1470345940 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :would MADV_DONTDUMP also improve performance somehow? < 1470345962 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only when you're crashing. < 1470345969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Really? I think that's a lot less helpful than usual. < 1470345977 0 :Eritzap!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470346013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't take participate in this conversation on my phone, anyway. < 1470346026 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I believe that you only add "hth" when whatever you say is not, actually, very helpful. < 1470346044 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1470346057 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's the standard usage in this channel. < 1470346061 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is perfectly fine, btw < 1470346073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I put it on helpful things, though. < 1470346079 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries with MADV_RANDOM
< 1470346085 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta keep people on their toes, right? < 1470346114 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: The situation you describe would best fit MADV_RANDOM, yeah. < 1470346234 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder whether it would be worthwhile to make a list of 1000 random addresses, tell the kernel that they will be needed using MADV_WILLNEED, and then start modifying the bytes... < 1470346256 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the theory being that this gives the kernel an opportunity to schedule the disk reads nicely < 1470346273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, do you know the addresses in advance? < 1470346305 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's just chunking < 1470346376 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, instead of generating a random address for each write access, I would generate a few in advance, then write. < 1470346390 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may not be possible in all cases. < 1470346898 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I also have no clue whether it actually pays off... it's a matter of magic. < 1470346955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmap is slightly scow < 1470347262 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrrr @mercurial... why does a hg revert -a not clear the resolution status of files < 1470347294 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why is that? < 1470347313 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1470347335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It blocks the whole thread when there's a page fault, so it's unusable if you implement your own threading. < 1470347383 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that means you don't like any virtual memory management at all < 1470347394 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1470347411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I want it to integrate with my userspace threads better. < 1470347457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :use OS threads. < 1470347472 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're worried about page faults, just have a thread controlling access to the memory, and then use FIFOs to send commands to/from it. < 1470347481 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How will you allocate memory for these FIFOs? mmap, of course... < 1470347493 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :page faults take up time, that's the nature of page faults. < 1470347538 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see no sane other way. The thing that causes the page fault is a plain CPU instruction... So whatever alternative instructions you want to have executed while the page is loaded, the kernel will have to know about. That's what OS threads are for. < 1470347572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, asynchronous page faults could be an option. < 1470347617 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a page fault is executing, your program is in the middle of an instruction. < 1470347620 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'd have to talk to CPU desgners about that. < 1470347623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not really any better API that is possible. < 1470347716 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be possible to have instructions that check whether a page is currently mapped. and I could imagine triggering some sort of "soft" page fault as well [arguably madvise fills that niche already]. < 1470347742 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it needs serious effort and I'm not convinced it's worth it. < 1470347756 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checking whether a page is currently mapped has a race condition, of course. < 1470347763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless that instruction is mlock or something. < 1470347776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, never mind, "instruction". < 1470347782 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that, do you mean that the page can be unmapped before you actually do anything with it? < 1470347814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with Linux, you can have page faults on any memory access anyway. Code is loaded using mmap, and basically anything can be swapped. < 1470347837 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To put it simply... If you are working on a system where the memory is managed for you, expect the memory to be managed for you. < 1470347879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd like my RTS to manage my memory, not the kernel. < 1470347894 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I have to have it do that. < 1470347903 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My thoughts are not coherent right now. < 1470347924 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm sure there's some way to coerce the kernel with some specific obscure features. < 1470347949 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "coerce" I mean "make it so page faults are not a thing, ever, unless you are using mmap for file IO" < 1470348000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably mlock (shachaf mentioned it) goes a long way in that direction < 1470348022 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When what more is there to say? :) < 1470348025 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Then < 1470348073 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: rhetorical questions are dangerous on here... they tend to get answered. < 1470348108 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why haven't pigs started to fly? < 1470348111 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks out of the window
< 1470348118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: physics! < 1470348130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping pigs would start to fly. :( < 1470348152 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I guess a catapult would do the trick < 1470348158 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: or an airplane < 1470348232 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Delivery on receipt of one (1) English pound to the first person who walks to with a picture of a pig on an aeroplane - preferably piloting it." < 1470348246 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...would be what I was writing if I was living in the 1900's. < 1470348312 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the person would just fly the aeroplane there, < 1470348328 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously piloting it, < 1470348338 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then walk about it a bit so as to meet the second requirement. < 1470348350 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first requirement, not second. < 1470348377 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then they'd ask for two pounds just because they cheated the system. < 1470348436 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice to have asynchronous L2 caches < 1470348467 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperthreading < 1470348488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, to some extent this idea is implemented < 1470348509 0 :Eritzap!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470348519 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can detect this by pinning pairs of hyperthreads so that each one wakes up when the other faults < 1470348589 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hyperthreads *are* a target for side channel attacks < 1470348611 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the fuck 'hyper'-threads are.
< 1470348619 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not quite what you said, but this has real world security implications) < 1470348632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: several threads running on a single core < 1470348636 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun thing: try truncating a file that's being mmaped by someone else < 1470348644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperthreads are tg < 1470348657 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: hyperthreads are when a single processor interleaves computations on multiple threads as if it were two separate CPUs < 1470348658 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how is that diffrent from usual multithreading? < 1470348669 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it causes a bus error in the process that mmaped that file < 1470348671 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: it's hardware-level < 1470348676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: the idea is that each thread will suffer from latencies and not use all execution units, so two threads can better use the core. < 1470348679 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there even any way to detect that before it happens? < 1470348685 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: oh, an never works fast. < 1470348690 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: more traditionally, threads would be one per core. < 1470348739 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hyperthreads each seems to suffer from the combined latencies of two or more threads. < 1470348745 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: from a logical point of view there is no difference to normal multithreading (that's pretty much the point really). < 1470348771 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: they are designed to improve total throughput. < 1470348775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470348787 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will slow down individual threads (hopefully only slightly) < 1470348848 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: total throughbut yes, overall slowdown much more noticable. (At least in soft-hard realtime applications such as interactive A/V processing) < 1470348923 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1470348948 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's application specific. I care a lot about make -j wallclock time and then hyperthreading is actually a good thing < 1470349071 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in principle a kernel could reserve a whole core for realtime threads (reducing latencies) and use hyperthreading for batch threads (improving throughput). Is that done? < 1470349074 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt make mostly IO bound and that to mass storage? < 1470349106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends. Recompiling stuff (after editing a file) tends to be served from the fs cache. < 1470349109 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think hyperthreading is just turned on by default without any regard of this issues. < 1470349114 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :make is mostly the-build-tools-it-runs-bound. < 1470349170 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mainly talking about make because it's what I use for parallelization of those other tools. < 1470349203 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux probably assumes that people who set up real-time systems know how to pin them to cpus. < 1470349251 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how to come up with scheduling priorities that don't lock up the whole system. < 1470350043 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470350314 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1470350359 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470350392 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470350474 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470350572 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470350576 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :76.1.72.128 at port 5138 << little telnet based chat im working on, it already has nicknames and so far only one bug i can find which might just be microsoft telnet being wierd < 1470350682 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc already is a little telnet based chat < 1470350693 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470350709 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik lol, im just writing it for fun < 1470351556 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470351603 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470351623 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a vague question. < 1470351628 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I have a group presentation. < 1470351638 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I write a nice machine-readable proof that the group it presents is finite? < 1470351679 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470351699 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a decision problem there, of course: given a group presentation, determine whether or not the presented group is finite. < 1470351716 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that decision problem even semidecidable in either direction? < 1470351732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm. < 1470351744 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To prove that the group given by a presentation is finite, you can get part of the way by specifying a multiplication table for the group. < 1470351749 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"presentation" is the thing with generators and equations, right? < 1470351753 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1470351762 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy to verify that the group given by the multiplication table has all the generators and satisfies all the equations. < 1470351773 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1470351786 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tempting to think that finiteness is semidecidable :P < 1470351793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably wrong. < 1470351835 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've got it. Yes, it's semidecidable. < 1470351846 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1470351851 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose that the generated group is, in fact, finite. Then there's a proof that it's finite, consisting of... < 1470351862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of equational proofs < 1470351884 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A multiplication table, where every element of the multiplication table is written in terms of the generators. < 1470351895 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... < 1470351904 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't have guessed wrong in the first place... from my theoretical background this should've been immediately obvious. lala < 1470351907 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each generator must be present as one of the elements of the multiplication table. < 1470351927 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And finally, prove that each of the equations implied by the multiplication table follows from the presentation. < 1470351934 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Righto. < 1470351979 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not necessarily a very concise proof, though. < 1470351996 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it settles the question < 1470352037 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm wondering how to write a *nice* machine-readable proof that the generated group is finite. < 1470352176 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a group presentation written in terse notation: < 1470352181 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss; tt; ststststst < 1470352185 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, lemme try again. < 1470352188 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss; ttt; ststststst < 1470352241 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to this page, that group presentation is for A5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_of_a_group < 1470352256 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But A5 has 60 elements. < 1470352265 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So its multiplication table has 3600 entries. < 1470352273 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470352335 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "nice" way, then, to prove that the generated group is finite? < 1470352564 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can reduce the multiplication table size; you only need to be able to multiply by generators and their inverses < 1470352651 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/7721/what-methods-exist-to-prove-that-a-finitely-presented-group-is-finite < 1470352657 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps you can produce a complete list of suffixes that are each equivalent to a shorter one < 1470352677 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I'd investigate (Knuth-Bendix) completion in this context < 1470352717 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, prefixes are conceptually easier) < 1470352768 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois ________________ < 1470352790 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had not looked at the link when I suggested Knuth-Bendix completion) < 1470352908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the main point of doing completion would be to actually find equational proofs. < 1470352912 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tietze_transformations - maybe you could prove that a group is finite by using Tietze transformations to turn its presentation into one that's "obviously" finite. < 1470352986 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any finitely presented groups which are infinite, but where every element has finite order? < 1470353289 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470353345 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470353659 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470353663 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470353663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 3h 1m 20s ago: USPS is chatting with Postes Canada to find out why this package was returned to me. They'll get back to me by Sep. 8. Is this too long to wait for redress y/n? < 1470353675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hockey//Hockey is okey, but parsley is gharsley. < 1470353708 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one "easy" way to prove that a finitely presented group is finite is by showing that every expression longer than a certain length is equivalent to a shorter one. < 1470353730 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia quinthellopia. I'll be on vacation between September 3 and September 18 inclusive. Like, really on vacation. Like, on another continent. If you could resend after that, that'd be great. I'll be home at that time. < 1470353730 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470353775 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, consider this group presentation in terse notation: < 1470353776 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1470353792 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. aa? < 1470353799 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a group presentation. < 1470353804 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think I pretty much suggested this < 1470353807 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. if you'd rather pick it up in person, come meet me at niagara falls on october 9th... < 1470353810 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: right. < 1470353839 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every expression for that group presentation contains one of these four subexpressions: aa, aa', a'a, a'a' < 1470353845 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each of which is equivalent to e. < 1470353846 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :niagara falls is what... 9 hours from here? < 1470353889 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probs. but it's at least twice that from here, so i'm doing most of the work here. besides, i'll be there anyway :P < 1470353898 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good argument :D < 1470353927 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this is turning out to be a bit of a tricky problem. < 1470353937 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a different problem... < 1470354015 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :istm that "group presentation" doesn't have its usual meaning here... < 1470354042 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"m", hmm < 1470354070 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove that the additive group of the integers (characterized as the initial ring) is freely generated by 1. < 1470354072 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: aa means aa = e, or a = a^-1. < 1470354103 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an abelian group? < 1470354114 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1470354114 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, nonsense < 1470354124 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cyclic anyway < 1470354137 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That the additive abelian group of the integers is the abelian group freely generated by 1. < 1470354165 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: very different from a group of people working together to research, organize, and present, in speech form, some information to a larger group < 1470354192 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: AH, that didn't occur to me at all, thanks < 1470354214 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so what does "m" in "istm" stand for? < 1470354218 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memorialize. < 1470354220 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1470354239 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. "it", not "I". < 1470354263 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where I went wrong. (mislead by "istr") < 1470354273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or misled < 1470354292 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what 4la's are for: mizzling < 1470354309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meddling < 1470354334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is in mislington bile < 1470354415 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iimb < 1470354442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if I may believe" < 1470354916 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470355921 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470355990 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470356518 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470357013 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470357056 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: bye - be back in 2 weeks / bye - de retour dans 2 semaines < 1470357665 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470357762 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470357791 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MILLING CHICKEN < 1470358218 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470358365 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470358814 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470359070 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470359226 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470359935 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470360624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470360631 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470360683 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470360756 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470361061 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470361341 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470361887 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470362036 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1470362775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470363049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jafet I wonder how many terminals display that correctly. <-- it made the tunes logs show as one line in my browser from that point onwards < 1470363049 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470363121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least vim handled it fine. < 1470363254 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/IXrvECO.jpg < 1470363474 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470363953 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470364049 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plyorrkkwrstuhyz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470364145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470364387 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470364387 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470364426 0 :moon__!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470364863 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470365117 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470365529 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE! $H+H* < 1470365556 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^that does mericals to the logs of some bots < 1470365562 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's just not very nice. < 1470366203 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are mericals? < 1470369835 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470370107 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the eicar test files are in the blockchain somewhere. < 1470370129 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's probably already actual malware in the blockchain somewhere < 1470370209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470370297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470372269 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470373235 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:381a:a3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470375211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49073&oldid=19995 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+3110) 10/* Computational class */ < 1470375291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49074&oldid=49073 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+1) 10/* Computational class */ copyedit < 1470375677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49075&oldid=49074 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-46) 10/* Computational class */ Removing repitition < 1470376944 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good < 1470376944 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 51m 34s ago: I wonder how many terminals display that correctly. <-- it made the tunes logs show as one line in my browser from that point onwards < 1470377095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470377867 0 :_miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470377952 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470379413 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470380121 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470380536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird when you stumble across an interesting author that you want to readf < 1470380549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One you've never heard of and that you haven't read anything by < 1470380557 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470380574 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470380591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then realize that they were big and important and wrote a book that has influenced the world indirectly (perhaps by inspiring a tribute work or a movie) < 1470380601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, I found the Andromeda Strain < 1470380617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Michael Crichton < 1470380627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the following (unrelated) book, The Terminal Man < 1470380633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I went to see what else he wrote < 1470380644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's the guy who made the book Jurassic Park < 1470380655 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470380977 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1470380988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_science_fiction_writers includes 9MOTHER9HORSE9EYES9 < 1470381029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A reddittor who publishes creepypasta < 1470381351 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out the entry barrier to have your own wikipedia page isn't that high < 1470381581 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470382987 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the american reddit, I presume. < 1470383014 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many reddits are there? < 1470383045 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1470383278 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't simultaneously apply the one reddit and ignore the other three reddits. < 1470383295 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470383454 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the time cube advocacy site no longer exists. < 1470383498 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like r/fifthworldproblems < 1470383584 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5035:3759:7fd4:cf94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470383848 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :r/baduk ! < 1470384629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i think i saw some link that may have been to a mirror the other day. < 1470384692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the 1986 film "The Transformers: The Movie", Unicron was played by Orson Welles < 1470384753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i guess that must have been his last role... < 1470384769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he died in 1985) < 1470384818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...weird. Perhaps he sent in a message from beyond the space-time continuum, as he did for The Juice Media when scolding us for treating 1984 as an instruction manual for the NSA? < 1470384844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love finding the wiki for a franchise and seeing that it's a MediaWiki instead of a Wikia subdomain < 1470384882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a film is usually made a bit before it's released, hppavilion[1] < 1470384905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well yeah, that too < 1470384976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl genius: larana's dad, best villain? < 1470384983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, the wiki I found seems to be... unofficial < 1470384991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the information is legit < 1470384995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also does that count as nsfw around your parts < 1470385015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... well, "The levitation trick gets The Fallen all The Ladies at parties." < 1470386981 0 :hppavilion[k]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470386993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1470386997 0 :hppavilion[k]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1470387008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try to read Time Cube < 1470388152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. hppavilion[1]'s brain < 1470389074 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470389129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470389156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470389940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Refrigerator™ | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1470390108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470391074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1470391078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Cars franchise < 1470391084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Pope Car a Popemobile? < 1470391115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, he was actually IN Cars 2 < 1470391147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a normal car (but with a hat), but he does RIDE in the Popemobile < 1470391167 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-cars < 1470391186 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...must inevitably lead to meta-meta-cars... < 1470391217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: How do we protect the Popemobile? < 1470391225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even want to know what Cars 9/11 was like < 1470391231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make me think about it < 1470391479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, there's something called "Satanic Reversal" (I guess that 12:20 becomes 2012 or something?) < 1470391504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Soviet Hell, acid mines YOU!" < 1470391925 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how high are you right now < 1470392236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably, he's... as high as the pope. < 1470392535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Higher than the pope's hat? < 1470392542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Define "high" < 1470392556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, I'm the opposite; this is me when I'm /not/ on speed < 1470392570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, slightly sleep-deprived) < 1470392600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a new academic motto < 1470392606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Time makes scholars of us all" < 1470392663 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By whose definition of "scholar"? < 1470392697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: By the definition of "knows a lot about something most people don't know a lot about" < 1470392804 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The meaning being that things which are just common knowledge today will become the stuff that only a small group of people have comparable levels of knowledge on in a few hundred years < 1470392924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody will care about the Trump presidential campaign a few generations down the road if he loses; most of the people who have even heard of him might wonder what his position was on funding the Apollo missions (that may be a slight exaggeration, but only slight) < 1470394400 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470394533 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOO torrentz :( < 1470395047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees no torrents
< 1470395358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470395547 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470395642 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5035:3759:7fd4:cf94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470395731 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470395747 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abnf//Augmented Backus-Naur Form, an update on the popular Backus-Naur Form programming language, introduces support for "Augmented Production", e.g. `foo +::= bar`. The older `::=` syntax will continue to be supported for orthogonal-compatibility purposes. < 1470398579 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470399028 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: NULL CHICKEN < 1470399139 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Volume 5 – Syntactic Algorithms (as of 2015, estimated for release in 2025)” — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Computer_Programming < 1470399167 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it looks like this publication is going to be about everything except compilers. < 1470399973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If english is going to have Spelling Reform, can we also do Grammar Reform? < 1470400514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470400845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470400872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google trends seems to have changed their layout < 1470401128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Criticism_and_controversy < 1470401511 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470401511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1470401525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IOC tries to forbid anybody anywhere from making GIFs of the games during the games < 1470401546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it includes after the games < 1470401560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to inform the IOC that this is the internet, and they can kindly fuck the fuck off < 1470401813 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you care too much about these things < 1470402599 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470402603 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is well-known: http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/06/07/olympic-committee-trademark-protection/id=69739/ < 1470402945 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:f52e:553d:fb4f:6b44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470403168 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1470405472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470406461 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470407848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470408078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470408141 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470408760 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GOD this week is going well for anyone who doesn't want trump < 1470408812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw it's great in europe < 1470408946 0 :_miketo!?@? NICK :miketo < 1470409111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470409131 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just move here already < 1470409131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Wyoming, each house seat represents 526000 people < 1470409136 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That's the plan < 1470409147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Montanna, it's almost 1000000 < 1470409177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I conclude that Montanna has the lowest absolute voter power of any state, as house seats are directly linked to electoral weight < 1470409228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, when you account for swinginess, Nevada is the most powerful) < 1470409367 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470410410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The University of Arkansas has called 100% of US presidential races correctly < 1470410566 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, they are behind a conspiracy. It is clear. < 1470411335 0 :CodingBat!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470411419 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait < 1470411423 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an octopus < 1470411433 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could predict the result of football matches < 1470411444 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they employing the same technique in arkansas? < 1470411523 0 :CodingBat!6d59ebac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.89.235.172 QUIT :Client Quit < 1470411973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470412765 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470413455 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470413589 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470414320 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470415087 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415433 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415465 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Client Quit < 1470415487 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415548 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470415555 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lsvbwkfofxnqqzum QUIT :Changing host < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1470415634 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lsvbwkfofxnqqzum JOIN :#esoteric < 1470417721 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470417927 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470418246 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470422982 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470424871 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470425145 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470425146 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan thanks for suggesting stackage-update the other day, it's so much faster than its cabal counterpart! < 1470425146 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470426625 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470426999 0 :moon___!?@? NICK :idiotsbelow < 1470427088 0 :idiotsbelow!?@? NICK :moon___ < 1470427206 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470427209 0 :bauen1!~bauen1@2a02:810d:1980:1584:f0eb:ba4:c3b6:664f QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470428052 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b99f:34ce:7b93:b008 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470428368 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470430050 0 :moon___!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470431285 0 :pug!~quassel@189.26.70.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1470431290 0 :pug!~quassel@189.26.70.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1470431542 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1470433382 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3810:717c:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470433415 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-efkeafpybyzslkdc QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470433429 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zhecisfhcodxazcf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470434006 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470435493 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3810:717c:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1470436173 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470437170 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470437200 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470437327 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470437605 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470437881 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still trying to understand how a cyclic bittag system is turing complete. Anyone care to enlighten me? < 1470438034 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1470438053 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470438056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1470438603 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470438625 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: If you mean bitwise cyclic tag, by virtue of being able to emulate any cyclic tag system with a binary alphabet, which can further emulate any tag system. Or so they claim, anyway. I certainly haven't spent any time thinking about it in detail. < 1470438702 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitwise indeed it is. < 1470439554 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470439810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tag system14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49076&oldid=12501 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+233) 10Convert to erences + add Minsky 1961. < 1470439835 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so you know, I went and enabled the 'Cite' extension. < 1470439843 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470439848 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470440373 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470441118 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470441572 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how many years did that end up taking < 1470441689 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Four and a bit. < 1470441701 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean since the wiki got started < 1470441744 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't remember when that was. But elliott said something about going to install it in 2012. < 1470441821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still wouldn't have done it except that they bundled it into the MediaWiki distribution a while ago, which meant installing it was a one-line edit to LocalSettings. < 1470442100 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe around 2020 or so I'll get around to Math. < 1470442444 0 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1470443585 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lsvbwkfofxnqqzum QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470443768 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ozgvzeqqdeikkzxj JOIN :#esoteric < 1470444166 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470444379 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: fizzie nailed it. BCT can emulate CT can emulate any post canonical system < 1470444384 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b99f:34ce:7b93:b008 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470444410 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone watching the opening ceremony < 1470444430 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what now? < 1470444440 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The big sports thing. < 1470444452 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Here we open up these new box!" is what I thought of < 1470444457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest athletic event of the year < 1470444460 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an unboxing. < 1470444522 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Finnish people in London" facebook group, I know they're watching it in some scandinavian bar. < 1470444526 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have an permanent filter that filters out any and all sport news < 1470444549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: impressive. i don't even know how you would set up such a thing. < 1470444573 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: nonetheless, the opening ceremony is not a sporting event, but rather a performance and a parade. < 1470444574 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: naah, it is more of an mental one. < 1470444579 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the performance is usually worth watching < 1470444598 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :my one exception is curling < 1470444671 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you tuned to sochi in 2014? < 1470444726 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, just found youtube (or other stored video streaming site) video of the curling < 1470444782 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470444794 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why curling specifically? < 1470444800 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you play? < 1470444814 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, just low to watch the absurdness of it < 1470444821 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/low/love/ < 1470444846 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yet you don't tune in for synchronized swimming or dressage? :P < 1470444847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't beat the cycle sprint for absurdity < 1470444863 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dressage beats cycle sprint for absurdity < 1470444866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470444870 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470444879 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dressage is just horses prancing around < 1470444884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470444887 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1470444910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle sprint is game theory conspiring to make a cycling race about who can cycle the slowest < 1470444922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good < 1470444922 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 5h 29m 35s ago: thanks for suggesting stackage-update the other day, it's so much faster than its cabal counterpart! < 1470444925 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, back in the 1900s, for a year or so, motorboating was an olympic sport. boats driving in circles. < 1470444968 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I installed Extension:Cite hth hand etc < 1470445012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1470445021 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that lets you . < 1470445025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1470445079 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm advertising this to people I think might care about citations.) < 1470445103 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the game theory aspect could be negated by the invention of uniforms and bikes that channel air into the person behind you, if they would allow that... < 1470445492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470446131 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :brazil has a lot more singable and danceable anthem than average, i should think < 1470446987 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470447687 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that dnsmask looks familiar < 1470449164 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zhecisfhcodxazcf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470449551 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470449574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nobody will care about the Trump presidential campaign a few generations down the road if he loses; most of the people who have even heard of him might wonder what his position was on funding the Apollo missions (that may be a slight exaggeration, but only slight) < 1470449610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i hereby point you at "Diana: Warrior Princess" hth < 1470449652 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ewnsybqzumldxqag JOIN :#esoteric < 1470449663 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: never played it, only heard the legends. which somehow seems appropriate.) < 1470449766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it my be so old by now that hppavilion[1] gets a meta-experience from it. < 1470449807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf hppavilion[1] has been idle for an hour < 1470449811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid silent channel < 1470449835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] if you ping out before seeing what i said, see the logs. < 1470449835 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470449857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1470449859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't beep < 1470449863 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-oud < 1470449863 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 28s ago: if you ping out before seeing what i said, see the logs. < 1470449868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1470449897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you one of those silly people who only get pinged when their nick is at the start of a line < 1470449904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, welcome to the club < 1470449928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, i _did_ use it at the start of a line < 1470450033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, after this year they really need a new version. < 1470450457 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470450814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470450884 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ewnsybqzumldxqag QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470451179 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470451426 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:1160:ae65:343b:c511 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470451759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470451785 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470451920 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470452286 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-giixofedjhqlufbd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470452365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470452595 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sorting.at/ look how cool this is < 1470452598 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-giixofedjhqlufbd QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470452748 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eqkhyqmicpmiwulo JOIN :#esoteric < 1470452928 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470453365 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eqkhyqmicpmiwulo QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470453841 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gsypaetbxlstehwh JOIN :#esoteric < 1470454268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470454299 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gsypaetbxlstehwh QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470454689 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470455180 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-biauttmkvenoxqwh JOIN :#esoteric < 1470455408 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470455470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( new rule: hppavilion[1] doesn't get to bring up mainstream news in the channel ) < 1470455484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1470455486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in . o O ( ) because i'm only tempted < 1470455486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1470455502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about tributarystream news? < 1470455505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you do a lot of it, and it's all depressing :P < 1470455515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :P < 1470455666 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPL3 says "If the Program specifies that a proxy can decide which future versions of the GNU General Public License can be used, that proxy's public statement of acceptance of a version permanently authorizes you to choose that version for the Program." I think this might be useful for protecting business interests, although the proxy should always authorize it if they do not have a good reason not to, and if the company goes defunct, they should < 1470456259 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proxy feature in the GPLv3 is one of its best features. < 1470456312 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets her sarcasm detector
< 1470456452 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-biauttmkvenoxqwh QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470456513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it is of much use unless you are running a business, but for a business it looks like a good feature. < 1470456746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just omit "or later version" and omit the proxy too, but then it can be problem if there are new versions of GPL that can be good and then they cannot be used. If you do add "or later version" then the business does not have full control over the licensing of the software they are selling, and that can be a different problem. With the proxy, you can avoid both problems. < 1470456866 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470456894 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470456924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( can you be your own proxy ) < 1470456981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect so; I do not see anything that says that you can't. < 1470457155 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if you are a copyright holder, who needs a proxy? < 1470457160 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can dictate terms. < 1470457277 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case there are multiple copyright holders I suppose, or in case the copyright holder is dead. < 1470457364 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I assume the intent is to declare yourself as the proxy for your program so that you can control icensing on derivatives? < 1470457368 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*licensing < 1470457392 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Except you can only control licensing on derivatives made with the same terms, proxy and all. < 1470457412 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, it's likely that would be the case for a decent number of projects. < 1470457597 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470458210 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ouzlcfrsvujgfwdc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470458636 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ouzlcfrsvujgfwdc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470459128 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bbqoroizmlvbvvdz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470459606 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470461522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470464045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470470198 0 :Dr0xSmartassE6!~mu@unaffiliated/oxe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470470978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "pre-haste" < 1470471498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll wait until it's more urgent. < 1470471762 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470472618 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470474391 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470474860 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470476072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want https://vine.co/v/edXbvrwdpgE to be made into a techno remix < 1470477330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/761188320042823680/pu/vid/1280x720/0lw0LhCnZzpop7sO.mp4 sfw < 1470477801 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is this from < 1470477843 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that tree grew fast < 1470478027 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the latest ending in the anime < 1470478698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470479237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a rumor that Matt Smith will be back on Doctor Who < 1470479288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Personally, the best thing EVER would be The Doctor regenerating... into (the appearance of) Amy Pond... but that doesn't seem likely) < 1470479315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the best thing ever would be the Doctor regenerating into the Master) < 1470479316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They did fairly recently establish that Time Lords can flip genders on the regeneration, so I'm expecting The Doctor to be a woman fairly soon) < 1470479371 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kehihogoakhfvqbx JOIN :#esoteric < 1470482250 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody can tell me what to look for if i want to find stuff about the _real_ mahjong and not these pair finding solitaire games? < 1470483294 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:1160:ae65:343b:c511 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470484247 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470485230 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470487854 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470488962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470489130 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470489733 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470489733 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 061200Z 28014KT 15SM FEW010 BKN070 23/19 A2965 RMK CF1ACC6 CF TR SLP041 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1470489912 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470490649 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kehihogoakhfvqbx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470493272 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: OTAKU CHICKEN < 1470496917 0 :moon-moon!moonheart@da1.hashbang.sh QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470497590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* 10New user account < 1470498714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AshuraTheHedgehog14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49077 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (+565) 10Created page with "'''''Under construction.''''' These are '''all''' of my Brainfuck derivatives: == BF-M == Brainfuck with a memory cell. +, -, >, <, ., ,. [, and ] are unchanged...." < 1470498963 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't be proud of that < 1470499788 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470500053 0 :Dr0xSmartassE6!~mu@unaffiliated/oxe6 PART #esoteric : < 1470500119 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470501455 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49078&oldid=33564 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (+234) 10Added my attempt. < 1470505054 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:4430:d6fd:a32b:d37e JOIN :#esoteric < 1470505388 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470505562 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470505683 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470506485 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470507918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are betting at roulette in American casino and have unlimited time, and you have $1000 but you need $2000 then what strategy is best? The answer in this case is to bet everything on black (or on red, or odd, or even). But how will the strategy differ if you need only $1500 instead, or if you need $3456 instead? What changes if there is a maximum bet imposed, or if you are betting at crap instead of roulette? < 1470508010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I have all the time I need why don't I just put it into a bank account :P < 1470508119 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can we simplify this to a fair coin throw? < 1470508186 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, perhaps not... because that would make it a zero sum game, and as long as you never overshoot your target, you'll have a 50% chance of reaching $2k and a 50% chance of going broke, regardless of your strategy. < 1470508212 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just a simple expected value computation) < 1470508238 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zero sum" is the wrong term, I mean expected earnings are zero. < 1470508377 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1500 is still boring; you can just bet $500 (on one of the 18/37 chances) all the time. < 1470508595 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for $2500, is it better to bet $500, then $1000, or vice versa? < 1470508637 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chance of winning is less than 50% regardless of what strategy is used. The game is memoryless, and you cannot use bank interest, other games, asking other people for help, comp bonuses, cheating, angling, etc. < 1470508655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have those good points too. I don't know what is best for $2500. < 1470508995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you about $1500 if the game is roulette at least; but at craps I don't know because the betting is much more complicated. < 1470509073 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470509124 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure that these complications change much, although the odds and so on seem to be more confusing, and changing bets is sometimes possible, and even bets are also sometimes possible as auxiliary bets.) < 1470509153 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470509256 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the greedy approach wins out < 1470509650 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I get a 38.2% chance for greedy, and a 37.6% chance for the non-greedy strategy, of reaching $2500) < 1470509665 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1470509700 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming 18/37 odds of winning and 19/37 odds of losing < 1470509780 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :More strange restrictions than a maximum bet would be to require the bet to be a prime number of dollars. (This restrictions is not actually used at any casino as far as I know, though.) < 1470509831 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, to disallow any bet to be the same amount as any previous bet (also something that does not exist as far as I know). Or both restrictions together. < 1470510686 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470510852 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470511151 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 QUIT :Quit: Bed Time < 1470511273 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone using tarot? < 1470511309 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no tarot cards. I know a few (but not much) about it. < 1470511335 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Augure < 1470511345 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: c'mon < 1470511363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augure: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1470511367 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I know is that a standard deck has 78 cards, being fourteen in each minor suit (rods, swords, cups, and coins; these are the Latin suits, some are French suited), and twenty-one trumps, and one Fool or Excuse (also sometimes considered a trump). < 1470511400 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in some decks the coins have pentagrams on them; this is irrelevant, they are still the same suit of coins. < 1470511434 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470511555 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is 182 seconds idle it says < 1470511644 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Just type the correct output yourself if you know what it is < 1470511666 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sorry guys ah ah ;) < 1470511727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augure: We are unlikely to answer your questions, but you can ask if you wish I suppose; it would probably better to asking someone else I think, though. < 1470511828 0 :Augure!~Augure@lib33-3-83-155-156-198.fbx.proxad.net PART #esoteric : < 1470511836 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it did reply < 1470511846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O yes it did. < 1470511855 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it sometimes slow though? < 1470511869 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes it is fast, and sometimes very slow. < 1470511881 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it seems sometimes you get error messages that should not occur. < 1470511977 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's slow because it's sharing a host with too many other VMs... possibly doing stupid stuff like cryptocurrency mining, password cracking and the like < 1470512083 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1470512362 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As far as I recall, HackEgo is running on one of those $35 for a life time VMs at Cloud at Cost... and overloading the hosts is pretty much the only way that this can be a sustainable business.) < 1470512386 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bbqoroizmlvbvvdz QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470512442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and of course there will be no people handling issues... abuse, VMs running amok (you're not supposed to have long-running CPU intensive jobs) etc. < 1470512450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1470512550 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should get your own computer that you can put it in? < 1470512703 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's one of those, yes. Although it's some higher-tier offering than the $35 one. < 1470512753 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :2G RAM and so on. < 1470512778 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm already paying for lambdabot's VM (and doing it gladly, but I don't want to do that for two bots). < 1470512881 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1470512885 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-avccgjtjbxcnwohq JOIN :#esoteric < 1470513234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same system is running the wiki as well. < 1470513493 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470513672 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470514427 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 PART #esoteric : < 1470517332 0 :moon_!4c014880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.72.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470518161 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470518539 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we talk for a moment about the man who attacked a police station with a machete in belgium? < 1470518545 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fucking stupid is that < 1470518554 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a lot < 1470518576 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard is it to get a gun in belgium? < 1470518599 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's more about making a statement < 1470518607 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what statement? < 1470518623 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Gävle goat got torched one year by someone firing a fire arrow into it while being dressed up.. there's probably easier ways to torch it < 1470518635 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's kind of more notable that way < 1470518659 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he was shot dead before even managing to kill one police officer < 1470518674 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think of anything more inefficient than that < 1470518704 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe if you blow yourself up /in a desert/... < 1470518786 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :they dont have anti-riot-foam? (Basically uhu glue or equiv forced through an areosolizer) < 1470518809 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i get a ton of that? < 1470518826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they want to die without too much police investigations? < 1470519151 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: could be a suicide by proxy thing, rather than poltical < 1470519190 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: hardware stores and general stores? Just take the areosolizer (must be of metal) of an spraycan, make a pressure container that has that plus ports for four of those sodastream/whipped-cream CO2 charges. Take the glue and put it in the pressure container, use four CO2 charges. < 1470519262 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should start selling it < 1470519351 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what to think of that suicide by proxy thing < 1470519358 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading about it for the first time now < 1470519519 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I've read the term somewhere, I didn't know it was born out of a religious loophole. < 1470519924 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 81 < 1470519937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 81: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1470520275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that I can somehow to convince them that the tin cups are magic and to trick them to go there just before they fall down and make noise. If they try to dispel it after they fall and make the noise, they will fail to dispel it, because the cups are not magic! < 1470520633 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470520670 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470520675 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While in the prison cell, with no items or magic (except for a few short lengths of rope), I would have to figure out how to confuse them and lead them astray. < 1470521004 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470521045 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470521173 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470522528 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470523133 0 :Guest75937!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470523512 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470523935 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470524200 0 :Guest75937!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470525544 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:4430:d6fd:a32b:d37e QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1470525769 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470525988 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470527279 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1470527483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470527830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick my left cursor key has gone all mushy < 1470527835 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470527879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1470527919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anybody can tell me what to look for if i want to find stuff about the _real_ mahjong and not these pair finding solitaire games? <-- i assume boily knows, and possibly zzo38. < 1470528007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also depend what kind of mahjong game there is many variants, such as Japanese game, or Chinese game. The Japanese game is popular in many parts of the world including in Japan. < 1470528059 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be sad if the japanese didn't like the japanese one < 1470528080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :improvements i'd like for freenode: to stop resetting the time on bans, and to _not_ reset idle time over pingout quit/joins... < 1470528082 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't "impact" the worst word ever < 1470528101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: all dinosaurs agree with you < 1470528112 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not that usage. that one is fine. < 1470528132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying they weren't impacted by it < 1470528134 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one, as a synonym for "affect" or "effect" < 1470528144 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would've guessed the japanese version is popular in japan < 1470528155 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying they were mostly not impacted, yes < 1470528162 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earth was definitely impacted < 1470528173 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which had an effect on the animals living at the time < 1470528186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it could be worse. they could have been effected by it. < 1470528208 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones who are alive now--basically were < 1470528218 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :molars can be impacted < 1470528222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION once corrected someone on wikipedia who overcorrected affect/effect
< 1470528223 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :educational outcomes should not be < 1470528256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think you missed the part where i misused "effected" hth < 1470528282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it works in a different sense, barely. < 1470528327 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume you meant in the sense of "to cause to come into being" hth < 1470528330 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*assumed < 1470528374 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can misuse afect/effect all you want, just don't replace them with "impact" hthem < 1470528388 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is my f key spasming today < 1470528421 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: keyboard gunk < 1470528494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small gunk civilization between the f and g keys < 1470528547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon they will spread all under the keyboard, but carefully learn to avoid the area right under the keys. < 1470528565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*learn to carefully < 1470528649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes his brain incorrectly corrected spasming to spamming
< 1470528668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit opposite in this case. < 1470528750 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. talking about spam, what do you people do with speculative invocies? < 1470528808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately, i don't get any tdh < 1470528816 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :request discounts < 1470528847 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and insist that i receive the services i'm paying for < 1470528848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess because i don't buy on the internet) < 1470528869 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually mail back an rubber cheque, in both senses of the word < 1470528869 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then threaten lawsuits when the service is not provided < 1470528888 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you writr it on an eraser? < 1470528906 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy selling me the rubber says its rather elastic payment method < 1470528946 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what an elastic payment method is when taken seriously < 1470528957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives Zarutian a medium low swat -----###
< 1470529577 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470529880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the Gävle goat got torched one year [...] <-- . o O ( have they considered using a different material ) < 1470529922 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've been trying to fireproof it with some spray < 1470529931 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think with moderate success? < 1470529940 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it burned down in the end anyway < 1470529969 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2013 As in 2006 and 2007, the straw used to build the goat has been soaked in anti-flammable liquid to prevent it from burning in the event of an arson attack.[48] The inauguration ceremony took place on 1 December. On 21 December the goat was burned down.[49]" < 1470529976 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1470530635 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470530907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wiktionary's audio play failed on me again. is "ström" pronounced with a short or a long ö? < 1470530919 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :short ö < 1470530930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, i'll add ipa < 1470530933 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long m I suppose, but I'm not good at telling consonantal length < 1470530966 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470530981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well afaik swedish is like norwegian there, either long vowel or long consonant in stressed syllables. < 1470531008 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: svo þú ert að læra sænsku? < 1470531099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: nah i already understand swedish well enough, i just wondered how the name "Ström" in the article about the Gävle goat was pronounced. < 1470531127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: um, that's not different, is it :P < 1470531138 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's the same < 1470531159 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like most (all?) names named after geographical features like that.. at least all I can think of < 1470531386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the wiktionary standard is sort of to not include consonant length for the (phonemic) ipa in such cases, though. < 1470531455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i have been trying to get a more accurate pronunciation because i've been learning some swedish songs, though. < 1470531499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most sounds are not that different from norwegian. < 1470531516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sj and a being the most obvious exceptions) < 1470531605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary's swedish pronunciation guide looks much better than the norwegian. < 1470531624 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what article is that? < 1470531634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Swedish_pronunciation) < 1470531656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the audio play failed for me there, too. < 1470531669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think IE doesn't like very short audio clips, or something.) < 1470531737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it plays, but cuts off nearly all of it. and then goes into some swirling animation mode. < 1470531823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_wikipedia's_ norwegian pronunciation guide is good, though... but they're inconsistent, and i almost got into an edit war with someone who changed to the wiktionary style) < 1470531849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only didn't because i didn't bother to revert back) < 1470531869 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does norwegian have retroflex consonants? for rs, rt, etc < 1470531903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok all trivial except for /œ/ as the short ö < 1470531930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yep, most dialects (the exception being south western ones with guttural rs) < 1470531960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*r's < 1470532117 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :lolnickjoke < 1470532127 0 :lolnickjoke!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1470532143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470532297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: another question. is it common to vary "är" between /æ:r/ and /e:/ dependent on whether a vowel or consonant is following? i noticed a song doing this, but wiktionary only describes those as "clear" vs. "everyday" pronunciation. < 1470532322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wennersten's Det Vakraste fwiw) < 1470532354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*V < 1470532376 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, no. I'd use /e:/ in typical everyday speech even before a word starting with a vowel sound < 1470532394 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dé é inte [...]" "it isn't [...]" < 1470532406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i meant not necessarily in everyday speech, but in some intermediate style < 1470532427 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know < 1470532432 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1470532432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470532587 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470532692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this audio _did_ play right, probably because it was slightly longer, but only on first try :P < 1470532712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the pitch "anden vs. anden" example) < 1470532774 0 :Guest49807!uid7911@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xubvyqzbofztdjjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1470533094 0 :Guest49807!?@? NICK :hello__ < 1470534223 0 :elfh!~elfh@37-145-144-191.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1470534826 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our spam filter rules are holding pretty well :) < 1470534871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heaps of attempts a day ago < 1470534925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Instead of limiting the wiki to defence, I think that it should be equipped for retaliation and the occasional preemptitive strike < 1470534979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps we should r&d the ability for the wiki to invade the dreams of our adversaries and give them constant nightmares- and the occasional sleep paralysis- until they are afraid to sleep?) < 1470534990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Prefrigerator™ | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1470535102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't think this world can survive if people keep a general habit of escalating conflicts unnecessarily hth < 1470535125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It can if we crush our adversaries completely, to the point that they can never retaliate < 1470535215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the problem is that even after you win, your own side will re-split into a new conflict, precisely because you've become addicted to conflict. < 1470535229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hm... < 1470535236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps we can use religion to keep everyone in line? < 1470535260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that has a mixed success rate i think :P < 1470535558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We'll include a subset that is compatible with Atheism to keep them(/us) on board- drop the dogma, keep a lightweight set of traditions and rituals and require that a solid 80% of the moral laws be maintained < 1470535672 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't force religion on everyone, either. < 1470535957 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :religion for some, miniature american flags for others < 1470536013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not everyone live in United States anyways. < 1470536022 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470536026 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, not everyone does or should be same religious. < 1470536044 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many different kinds, and we can learn from everything a bit. < 1470536461 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1470537101 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1470537242 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long time no see, how's the chat? < 1470537344 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1470537378 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything interesting in the last few months? < 1470537652 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470537925 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look in the logs and wiki and see. < 1470537938 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not on during 100% of all the time and do not remember 100% of the things < 1470538258 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should a library do in case of memory exhaustion? < 1470538277 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the sane behaviour? < 1470538320 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. do nothing, set errno to ENOMEM, return < 1470538324 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. abort < 1470538349 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. free all the data structures it previously allocated < 1470538369 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably can depend on what the function is, I suppose? < 1470538373 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by previously i mean other function calls, unrelated to the one that failed due to memory exhaustion < 1470538380 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a bignum library < 1470538488 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. this generates a random bignum number https://github.com/maandree/libzahl/blob/a02ba0b0602fb1d6caa5ce332a0c3483c3e4c4aa/src/zrand.c < 1470538510 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1470538512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it fails it frees all the structures < 1470538525 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ones used by other bignums < 1470538556 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just fail to see the point < 1470538582 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also fail to see the point < 1470538629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what would be the sane thing to do? < 1470538857 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be changed so that the return type is not void, and therefore it can tell you if it is OK or not. < 1470538879 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds reasonable < 1470539202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody ever written a constitution in the style of a man page? < 1470539236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course, to REALLY keep everyone in line, we'll need to also have people know that they prefer it this way < 1470539284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: of course, i don't think keeping everyone in line is a sane thing to aim for. < 1470539313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we'll discretely fund a rebellion- with our own people in charge- that will have the job of rebelling, but having all rebels live in shitty conditions so that only the most dedicated-to-the-cause people join and being sure to rebel badly < 1470539411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a little bit like 1984 hth < 1470539569 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470539613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If we want to go full-on bureaucratic hell, we can make the funding of the rebellion open and legit < 1470539628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maintained by the Department of the Rebellion < 1470539648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick question: Does the US congress qualify as a parliament? < 1470539688 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: bye < 1470540092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it did hth < 1470540133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that doesn't make the us have parliamentarism < 1470540491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The Wikipedia page for Parliaments doesn't mention it at all, and the page for Congress mentions it twice- the first time is "parliamentary procedure" which is probably just saying that it's in the style done by parliaments, the second time is "parliamentary privilege" which is just the common term for a thing /usually/ applied to Parliament members but that extends to non-Parliament countries in general (in theory, it could < 1470540491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably extend to an Oligarchy) < 1470540579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There does appear to be a distinction between "Parliamentary governments" and "Presidential governments", and I assume the US falls under the latter, but it's not inconceivable that a government with a parliament isn't a parliamentary government (or even that a country can be somewhere in between) < 1470540579 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470540732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway used to be in between between 1814 and 188something < 1470540764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the parliament got the bright idea to use our equivalent of an impeachment procedure to enforce parliamentarism. < 1470540811 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, the Australian Government once shut down < 1470540821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although some restrict the use of the word parliament to parliamentary systems, it is also commonly used to describe the legislature in presidential systems (i.e. the French parliament), even where it is not in the official name." < 1470540857 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Queen responded by dissolving parliament < 1470540865 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470540942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway's king cannot actually dissolve parliament, i guess it's one of the many features we borrowed from the us constitution. < 1470540949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the B1ood6od is here? < 1470540954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B1ood6od: I have some B1ood for you < 1470540986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( What is the government of #esoteric? ) < 1470541095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Surveillance state with an absolute oligarchy (like an absolute monarchy, but with more than one monarch that can contradict the others- with no proper mechanism for resolving contradictions beyond reversal wars and friendly agreement)) < 1470541099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470541168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Participation is involuntary while in the channel, and can be involuntary elsewhere if the oligarchs decide as such (though the surveillance state doesn't extend beyond the borders) < 1470541202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oligarchs can, of course, single-handedly introduce a new oligarch without the consent of others < 1470541208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm pretty sure I understand IRC) < 1470541232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it extends beyond the borders, we borrow intelligence from google hth < 1470541257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course < 1470541308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically there is a possible hierarchy of oligarchs, but i don't think there's any difference between the 3 currently active ones hth < 1470541343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it depends on chanserv flag settings) < 1470541358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The surveillance state can extend beyond the borders upon request by pooling state surveillance, and one of the major surveillors will respond to most queries on the drop of a hat and is basically the world's most powerful surveillance state < 1470541423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondmost, don't forget the NSA hth < 1470541431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, is that CIA < 1470541456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSA is the one spying on everybody < 1470541476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIA and FBI are still too powerful, but they aren't the ones collecting and storing EVERYONE's EVERYTHING < 1470541536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oligarchs are specifically equipped with the powers to- quite easily- deport citizens, imprison or execute citizens, promote to an oligarch or specifically permit an individual to break a state-mandated Period of Silence, and at will modify the small set of standing laws < 1470541618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While not relevant in #esoteric, many similar governments permit Oligarchs- and only Oligarchs- to modify the Universal Psychic Message Broadcast < 1470541629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in #esoteric, it's available to everyone) < 1470541673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite rumors, we cannot actually execute citizens, we need to ask freenode staff for that hth < 1470541709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can't you permaban from #esoteric? < 1470541717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that's more of permanent deportation...) < 1470541728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i thought. < 1470541750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric's oligarchs can even impose population control < 1470541815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, internet governments are horrifying < 1470541831 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1470541850 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when someone hacks the government and steals all the democracy < 1470541856 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever happend to the DAO < 1470541871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAO? < 1470541912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_DAO_(organization) < 1470542054 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, make Zenarchy. < 1470545342 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470545432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470545521 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bd7:fa7b:7282:18cc:272e:7710 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470545572 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470546020 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470546094 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470546168 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bd7:fa7b:7282:18cc:272e:7710 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470546214 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never did finish my lang < 1470547243 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470547728 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazyass < 1470547832 0 :hello__!uid7911@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xubvyqzbofztdjjg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470547975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither! < 1470547986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly. < 1470548503 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470549213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470549714 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470550842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just went to Amazon and searched for something < 1470550852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a sponsorship at the top of the results < 1470550865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SPONSORED BY ADMINTESTBRAND: Lorem Ipsum" < 1470550883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sit Dolor Amet. < 1470550906 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take 5 < 1470550954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It gave real sponsorships related to my search though < 1470550972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PETITION: Change the USA's motto to "Lorem Ipsum Sit Dolor Amet" < 1470551028 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell did you searched for < 1470551060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ... "My Little Pony' < 1470551081 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ... < 1470551084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the capital of the US should be moved to Blackacre in Franklin < 1470551730 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woulogolwabgjuuf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470551892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470558426 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1470559112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470561032 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470563032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470564052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470567772 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470571998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* 10New user account < 1470572101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49079 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+2641) 10Pipefuck < 1470572412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49080&oldid=49079 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+581) 10 < 1470572485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:WolfgangTS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49081 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+148) 10Created page with "== About me == I'm a developer, who really does nothing. I like JavaScript, and node. I like learning '''lots''' of languages, and making some too." < 1470572533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:WolfgangTS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49082 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+13) 10Created page with "Nothing here!" < 1470572580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49083&oldid=49080 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+0) 10/* Multiplication program */ < 1470572862 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49084&oldid=49083 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (-14) 10/* Comments */ < 1470573201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49085&oldid=49084 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+32) 10/* The tape */ < 1470573449 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-woulogolwabgjuuf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470573453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49086&oldid=49085 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (-16) 10/* Multiplication program */ < 1470573502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49087&oldid=49086 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (-7) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1470573562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49088&oldid=49087 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+11) 10/* Implementation */ < 1470573664 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3874:f665:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470573858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49089&oldid=49088 5* 03WolfgangTS 5* (+36) 10 < 1470573967 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he likes js and immediateöy creates a bf derivate < 1470573971 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like him < 1470574021 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediateöy? < 1470574031 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, typo < 1470574035 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens < 1470574046 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you typo *that*? < 1470574057 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a german keyboard < 1470574086 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l and ö are right next to each other < 1470574087 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit haèèns < 1470574120 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exacteöy (sic) < 1470574127 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone use ~ in pipefuck? < 1470574130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit haüüens < 1470574132 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it useful for? < 1470574201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i see < 1470574233 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is like f in befunge < 1470574244 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it is a worse befunge < 1470574271 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think their examples shouldn't use 4 at t0 and 3 at t1 < 1470574300 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, they can't be reached < 1470574304 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's fine < 1470574356 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool tho < 1470574366 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i don't befunge < 1470574376 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1470574401 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have to learn c++ properly < 1470574403 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470574422 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, priorities < 1470574428 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is so responsible
< 1470574433 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol c++ < 1470574436 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn rust < 1470574448 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the name < 1470574467 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ is like the worst language i could probably think of < 1470574469 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit of a silly reason < 1470574474 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :And C++ is horrible < 1470574512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you guys implying that befunge > c++? < 1470574518 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how the first pipefuck example would work, if 'equal' means the same character < 1470574542 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: pretty close, but yeah < 1470574542 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :since as soon as it finds the first space, it will randomly choose a space to teleport to < 1470574561 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never finds a space < 1470574570 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: howso? < 1470574580 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it finds \ and goes downwards < 1470574590 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind me < 1470574598 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought the first code block was in pipefuck < 1470574611 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is..? < 1470574635 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's in brainfuck < 1470574648 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that first block < 1470574661 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I'm on an old version of the page < 1470574663 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION refreshes
< 1470574697 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say "the first code block" you should specify that you mean the one before the 2nd < 1470574700 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for clarity < 1470574706 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1470574706 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1470574718 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really be more precise < 1470575236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470575820 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470576399 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470577249 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470577273 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470577786 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470578545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PACKAGED CHICKEN < 1470578866 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470579596 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1470579842 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470583452 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470585810 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1470587371 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ozgvzeqqdeikkzxj QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470587588 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yrjwffbkjbljkcjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1470587892 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALMOST EQUAL TO < 1470587911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​≈ < 1470587919 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode APPROXIMATELY EQUAL TO < 1470587921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​≅ < 1470588021 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS UNICODE SO LOUD?? < 1470588151 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode small letter iota < 1470588159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0269 LATIN SMALL LETTER IOTA \ UTF-8: c9 a9 UTF-16BE: 0269 Decimal: ɩ \ ɩ (Ɩ) \ Uppercase: U+0196 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0390 GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA WITH DIALYTIKA AND TONOS \ UTF-8: ce 90 UTF-16BE: 0390 Decimal: ΐ \ ΐ \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Dec < 1470588172 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ≅ is a reasonable approximation of ≈. < 1470588225 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode brakcet < 1470588231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FE18 PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRAKCET \ UTF-8: ef b8 98 UTF-16BE: fe18 Decimal: ︘ \ ︘ \ Category: Pe (Punctuation, Close) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Decomposition: 3017 < 1470588690 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: for compression reasons < 1470588699 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1470589042 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3874:f665:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470590805 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hoctkgcagbzpakwl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470591046 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470591107 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470591108 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470591663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470593094 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NEITHER EXACTLY NOR APPROXIMATELY EQUAL TO < 1470593104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470593164 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicodde nor < 1470593165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unicodde: not found < 1470593200 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode nor < 1470593202 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⊽ < 1470593219 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode neither < 1470593222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2247 NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO \ UTF-8: e2 89 87 UTF-16BE: 2247 Decimal: ≇ \ ≇ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ Decomposition: 2245 0338 \ \ U+2270 NEITHER LESS-THAN NOR EQUAL TO \ UTF-8: e2 89 b0 UTF-16BE: 2270 Decimal: ≰ \ ≰ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ < 1470593249 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO < 1470593252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470593289 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO < 1470593291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​≇ < 1470593725 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALMOST BUT NOT QUITE ENTIRELY UNLIKE < 1470593729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470593738 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1470596346 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: pretty sure all the "neither" symbols are just some other symbol with a / through it < 1470596812 0 :Alcest!~alcest@69.64.40.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598869 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598882 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470598882 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598887 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470598924 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470598932 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470598932 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1470599395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470601673 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470601755 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48c7:e7b5:e8da:2e9a:906c:d85c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470601788 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining neither overlay < 1470602664 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48c7:e7b5:e8da:2e9a:906c:d85c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470602860 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470603121 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470603384 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470603562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49090&oldid=49078 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-1) 10/* AshuraTheHedgehog's attempt */ removed a colon < 1470604028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49091&oldid=41646 5* 0312.161.214.178 5* (+127) 10add filesizes < 1470605020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AshuraTheHedgehog14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49092&oldid=49077 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (+224) 10Finished table. < 1470605106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AshuraTheHedgehog14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49093&oldid=49092 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-7) 10Changed headers. < 1470605115 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:307b:74c9:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470605256 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470605915 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470606166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49094&oldid=49058 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-1) 10/* Input */ correction < 1470606307 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470606324 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470607622 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470608859 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470608880 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:307b:74c9:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470608948 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470609079 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1470609145 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470609405 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:991a:8581:9e0a:8787 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470609781 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470609831 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470610360 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470610812 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470612200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470612372 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470612404 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470612523 0 :elfh!~elfh@37-145-144-191.broadband.corbina.ru QUIT : < 1470612674 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d492:4696:c8cc:e51c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470613317 0 :feliks!865pg9iakj@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470613695 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470613818 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:991a:8581:9e0a:8787 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470613980 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470614147 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:9f35:6b2d:6b5e:b78b JOIN :#esoteric < 1470614919 0 :feliks!NQm8T5AgE2@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1470615122 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616106 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1470616440 0 :moon_!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pipefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49095&oldid=49089 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+1) 10Commens -> Comments. Comments section < 1470616490 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616515 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470616529 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :MoonyTheDwarf < 1470616560 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~AndChat17@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470616575 0 :moon_!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616597 0 :moon_!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1470616610 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616697 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470616901 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes MoonyTheDwarf
< 1470616924 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION jumpscares boily
< 1470617095 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION topples over in a formless mass
< 1470618160 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470618230 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor thing < 1470618316 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:9f35:6b2d:6b5e:b78b QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470618480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:91.231.140.16110]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled, email disabled): spambot; it can't get past the spam filter but it's rather spamming up the spam filter itself < 1470618680 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470618692 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470618780 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:5c1d:3a7c:b09b:48dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470618953 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ironic < 1470619293 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470619434 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bda:248e:5c1d:3a7c:b09b:48dc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470619805 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620117 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A CPU is essentially an abacus, no? You set a number on this row (mem location), another there, you operate on both numbers, you put the result on that row (register), you make a register of of other numbers (other mem locations) . . . both devices, abacus and CPU, are registers (registers of registers, ad infinitum); memory and a stepper processor. < 1470620205 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1470620271 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conceptually, elementary step-by-step processing, linear processing. < 1470620360 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470620368 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620411 0 :callforjudgement!?@? NICK :ais523 < 1470620670 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from processing speed and RAM capacity, how is a CPU different from an abacus? < 1470620724 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :derHummer: even the simplest CPUs have registers /and/ an ALU; an abacus just has registers < 1470620759 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arithmetic/logic is up to the human user rather than implemented in the abacus < 1470620959 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620959 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470620959 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1470620999 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hire 1,000 abacus operators ... there's your CPU. ok, 900,000 operators ... 200 million (unemployment is high these days). Point is that conceoptually / functionally, we still have the step-by-step processing. < 1470621052 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, or the ALU, rather < 1470621100 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm imagining what an abacus with an ALU would look like < 1470621113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like, when you had enough beads at the bottom of one column < 1470621122 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd rise up to the top and drop one bead from the next < 1470621133 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, indeed < 1470621135 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a half-adder, one of the simplest arithmetic components < 1470621174 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any complexity could be implemented in a wire/bead abacus ... given enough care < 1470621194 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need a power source < 1470621196 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it's doable < 1470621199 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/complexity/algorithm/ < 1470621220 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the operator's finger < 1470621227 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just end up inventing the Analytical Engine if you go too far along these lines, though, don't you? < 1470621399 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that; essentially the key is writing down the algorithm; then you give one page of the book to each abacus operator. But that's just talking the mechanisms of the thing. But the concept, the functional idea, is the thing. What else is different about a CPU---leave aside the electronics. < 1470621437 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a modern CPU, or a conceptual one? < 1470621447 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a modern CPU < 1470621456 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say an abacus is an excellent analogue for a set of registers < 1470621463 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the differences are all the things that aren't just registers < 1470621472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction scheduling, caches, and the like < 1470621473 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the concept informing a modern CPU. the von Neumann architecture < 1470621498 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does a CPU even have to know which memory architecture it's using? < 1470621523 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if it's using the same signals to communicate with code and with data, then it has to be von Neumann < 1470621528 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for its own correct funtioning, yes, probabley < 1470621552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in general, an old/traditional CPU doesn't need to care about the details of how memory works < 1470621572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the 6502 and old NES games; many of them had hardware which automatically swapped between multiple RAMs and ROMs < 1470621602 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploiting the fact that the CPU didn't care that it was connected to memory, just that it'd get particular responses if it sent particular requests < 1470621659 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the hardware don't matter; not as far as correctness of computation schema < 1470621687 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, to a certain extent, a system needn't /have/ a memory architecture, really < 1470621712 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining a device that streams values to a CPU's memory read port < 1470621713 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sliding beads on a wire is a "memory", no? < 1470621714 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a recording < 1470621736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's what's known as distributed memory, or as a register < 1470621742 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it isn't addressable < 1470621751 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, register < 1470621792 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :streaming values sounds like a punched tape, or ibm punched cards < 1470621825 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but punched cards were the memory storage of the day ... the "floppy disks", lol < 1470621877 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops ... afk ... bbl ... < 1470622713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_Parser_Framework#Example compiling this example takes several seconds... < 1470622716 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to learn yacc i guess < 1470622731 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470623173 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HONORABLE CHICKEN < 1470623435 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470623490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470623605 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470624239 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470624338 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470624423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470624646 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470624683 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e029:3138:51f2:e6c2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470624707 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470627882 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470628519 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470628785 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more complex the computation, the more powerful the computation. (solves more complex unknowns.) Sonds like a good axiom to come up with leading edge apps? < 1470628972 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1470628997 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) whut? < 1470629415 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only solve for real unknowns. < 1470629973 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1470629980 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470631689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470631690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1470631696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything eventually goes back to Bell Labs < 1470632815 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470633087 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470633165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to figure out Cthulhu's family tree < 1470633169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created infinite recursion < 1470633173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figures < 1470633313 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching the beach volleyball < 1470633343 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an actual difference in the rules between beach and regular volleyball? < 1470633438 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only there was some sort of encyclopedia that anyone could put this information on < 1470633442 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1470633445 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_volleyball#Rule_differences_between_beach_and_indoor < 1470633731 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470634267 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1470634340 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1470634748 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1470634831 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470634906 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470636769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470636876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470637599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logs are informing me that shit haååens. < 1470637601 0 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1470637601 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1470638539 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470638823 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470639216 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please recommend me a great pdf reader < 1470639249 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually use zathura which supports vi keys to navigate < 1470639276 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's being insanely slow with a pdf with almost 4k pages < 1470639314 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite being based on mupdf, and mupdf renders that file instantly < 1470639405 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh mupdf has vi keys < 1470639412 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i use zathura at all? < 1470639492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mystery < 1470639587 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh mupdf does very fancy transitions between pages when it's in presentation mode < 1470639594 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so nice < 1470639608 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so useless < 1470639619 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll never use this, it just slows down things < 1470641005 0 :derHummer!~KVIrc@216.227.105.106 QUIT : < 1470641385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think you just end up inventing the Analytical Engine if you go too far along these lines, though, don't you? <-- . o O ( every sufficiently overengineered calculation device is indistinguishable from a computer ) < 1470641507 0 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1470641544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my jokes seem to be repelling their targets today. < 1470641806 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :einstein developed a theory about space < 1470641810 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was about time too < 1470642460 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apostasy is not apostasy. < 1470642467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was relatively fancy. < 1470644417 0 :FireFly!?@? NICK :EvilFly < 1470645242 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470645478 0 :EvilFly!?@? NICK :FireFly < 1470645508 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470645765 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470646035 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470646388 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470646604 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470649612 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470649887 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470650018 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d0:7281:ad47:dab7:e878:73e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470651792 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470653303 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470653390 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d0:7281:ad47:dab7:e878:73e8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470654072 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470655009 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470656057 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470656150 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470656814 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470657124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1470657284 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1470657309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what was it like when the time travellers had to flee the Morlocks, but couldn't agree on past vs. future? < 1470657393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1470657406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a tense situation hth < 1470657425 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION *THWACKS* oerjan. 0.95 shachafs.
< 1470657437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was hoping for more. < 1470657612 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION idly wonders where oerjan's standard timezone is currently located
< 1470657630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time oerjan < 1470657633 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Mon Aug 8 13:00:30 2016 < 1470657639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1470657644 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(personally I'm somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic) < 1470657644 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470657651 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't answer my question. < 1470657667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly enough, i got up at 7 AM today < 1470657690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those rare days of apparent synchronization. < 1470657695 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, synchornized for once < 1470657922 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e029:3138:51f2:e6c2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470658107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49096&oldid=8485 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+958) 10Need help with a Black interpreter. < 1470658354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1470659323 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470659438 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: STRING CHICKEN < 1470659586 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@37.205.56.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470661147 0 :Akaibu_!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbnsovrochaaruzm JOIN :#esoteric < 1470661150 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hoctkgcagbzpakwl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470661151 0 :Akaibu_!?@? NICK :Akaibu < 1470661888 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470662574 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470662596 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:3fa:f0a7:dad9:b222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470663049 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470663243 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:3fa:f0a7:dad9:b222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470663812 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470663832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49097&oldid=41864 5* 03Mihip 5* (-1243) 10 < 1470663979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wct14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49098&oldid=41871 5* 03Mihip 5* (+138) 10 < 1470664030 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470664205 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49099&oldid=49097 5* 03Mihip 5* (+725) 10Added example < 1470664228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49100&oldid=49099 5* 03Mihip 5* (-8) 10 < 1470664370 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470664374 0 :baordog!~bob@ool-944b295d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470665403 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470665489 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470666727 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470666855 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470666954 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1470667207 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470667332 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-98-157-243-236.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470667404 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:ec56:414d:d698:a303 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470667455 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470668377 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470668573 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:d9:a43e:ec56:414d:d698:a303 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470669191 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470670322 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-yrjwffbkjbljkcjg QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470670448 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jswrbldvgcytrckc JOIN :#esoteric < 1470671134 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470671194 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470671691 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470672047 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470673769 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470673857 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jswrbldvgcytrckc QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470673958 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-weafrkzldilhowil JOIN :#esoteric < 1470674490 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470674836 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470677609 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-weafrkzldilhowil QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470677687 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49101&oldid=47311 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+245) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ Emacs = Communism for Programmers < 1470677768 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jyazfxecbvtimxao JOIN :#esoteric < 1470677965 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470678715 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.1 - http://znc.in < 1470678753 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1470678958 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470679111 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470679387 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:d72f:bb1a:7580:c448 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470681990 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470683501 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470683552 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470683815 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470683848 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1470683892 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats new < 1470684129 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470684394 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470684814 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundreds of trillions of human skin cells, just today < 1470685267 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470685819 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1470685827 0 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1470685827 0 :cnr!~connor@dragonfruit.coffeeman.me QUIT :Changing host < 1470685827 0 :cnr!~connor@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686126 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470686155 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686448 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:9071:6a62:8e81:34f QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470686503 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470686892 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470686940 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470687251 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687394 0 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687448 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8ddd:f2ed:2807:3564 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687449 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:d72f:bb1a:7580:c448 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470687472 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470687596 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, the GG story is branching out like a hydra. At this rate I will not live to see it finish. < 1470687651 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut the dire necks first < 1470687653 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :start from the top < 1470687655 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1470687693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470687712 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8ddd:f2ed:2807:3564 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470687713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would but all they gave me is the "forward button", which is a very blunt tool. < 1470687819 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470688117 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470689975 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: GG? < 1470690034 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:19de:3326:b41a:6ca3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470690037 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470690250 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@rrcs-24-172-152-70.central.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470690257 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470690327 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470691099 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470691145 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:4127:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470691325 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470691583 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:19de:3326:b41a:6ca3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470692149 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@172.56.14.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470692447 0 :dos!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1470692878 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1470693540 0 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470693826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470693975 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470694000 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470694042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470695239 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470695274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1470695331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it how YouTube (though it may be the fault of the YouTubers, but I doubt it) has it so, if a video is uploaded in 720p60 or 1080p60, you can't watch it at normal 30fps in HD < 1470695384 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a reason to use 30fps aside from smaller file? < 1470696386 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470698087 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470698343 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:4127:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470698455 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470699214 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470699824 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@172.56.14.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470700031 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BOY CHICKEN < 1470700153 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700232 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700348 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Local hardware might be incapable of rendering at 30fps, but could at 60fps. < 1470700365 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470700521 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470700583 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700616 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:9dbb:9ab6:826a:608e JOIN :#esoteric < 1470700801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1470700809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drama going on in some of my online friends' lives < 1470700998 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1470701076 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does someone know something specific that changed from posix 2008 to 2013? < 1470701166 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470701229 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not off the top of my head, but any such changes should be minimal: 2013 merely had some corrigenda applied to 2008's text. < 1470701270 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1470701272 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1470701385 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:bdf:cf40:9dbb:9ab6:826a:608e QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470701469 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470702499 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: "This 2013 Edition includes IEEE Std 1003.1-2008/Cor 1-2013 incorporated into IEEE Std 1003.1-2008 (the base document). The 2013 edition incorporates Technical Corrigendum 1 addressing problems discovered since the approval of the 2008 edition." < 1470702513 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: So you can just peruse the TC1: https://webstore.iec.ch/corrigenda/iso/isoiecieee9945-cor1%7Bed1.0%7Den.pdf < 1470702568 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(321 pages might not quite count as "minimal" in an absolute sense, but maybe if measured as a fraction of the full thing.) < 1470702612 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for that :O < 1470702883 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, I guess that's the ISO/IEC bizarro-universe variant of it -- that is, it's "ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945:2009 Technical Corridgendum 1" which you would apply as a patch to the "ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945:2009" base document, as opposed to being "IEEE Std 1003.1-2008/Cor 1-2013" which would apply to "IEEE Std 1003.1-2008". < 1470703240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everybody so upset about Wrath of Khan right now? < 1470703287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470703584 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470703938 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470704047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: GG? <-- girl genius hth < 1470704064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very award-winning webcomic. < 1470704073 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought it was good game
< 1470704101 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, around here that would be a TG game hth < 1470704143 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The text of the two documents are identical. < 1470704168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, Adventure, Romance, MAD SCIENCE! (TM) hth < 1470704245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh they have their own awards page < 1470704254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1470704278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG? < 1470704283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(t... t... t...) < 1470704285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least a couple of those hugos are not for GG but for comics back in the '70s... < 1470704286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible Game? < 1470704288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg < 1470704296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. < 1470704320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470704340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the easiest possible multiplayer game? < 1470704350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either phil foglio started _really_ young, or he's older than i thought. < 1470704406 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470704419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh born 1956. < 1470704441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It could be both. -e nerd points for use of exclusive disjunction for two non-contradictory possibilities < 1470704483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kaja is the same age as i. figures. < 1470704514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: OKAY < 1470704532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, Hufflepuff and Horned Serpent are actually rather compatible < 1470704568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, I think that they're more compatible than any other Hufflepuff/H or H/Horned Serpent combination) < 1470704601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I forgot about Ravenclaw/Horned Serpent < 1470704613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't actually both, though. he was at least over 20 when he got those awards. < 1470704632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That doesn't mean he got the awards soon after he started < 1470704644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless a Hugo is bound to recency of starting) < 1470704694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But looking into it, I think Hufflepuff is still more compatible- hard work/dedication/honesty is MUCH more scholarly than wit/creativity/wisdom < 1470704765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well it cannot be, since he's _also_ got hugos less than a decade ago. < 1470704794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470704841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Phil Foglio is nearing retirement age < 1470704846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, US retirement) < 1470704873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When a student starts their education at Ilvermorny, they step onto a Gordian Knot on the floor in the centre of the entrance hall with large wooden statues of the mascots for the four houses facing them. The carved statues react if they want the student in their house." < 1470704886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, sometimes more than one carving will try to select the same student and so the student is then able to choose the house they prefer. This happens very rarely. Sometimes - as rare as once a decade or even a generation as in the case of one student - a student will be selected by every house." < 1470704893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it possible for no statue to react? < 1470704947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why is everybody so upset about Wrath of Khan right now? <-- i dunno but maybe it has something with the new star trek movie(?) i keep seeing ads for? < 1470704955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*something to do < 1470704965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Khan isn't in it < 1470704980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would still cause star trek discussion... < 1470704993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there's a meme. i don't see much of those. < 1470705007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was kidding; people are actually upset about the gold-star Kahn Family- more accurately, they're upset that Trump insulted them) < 1470705014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i stopped following reddit's default front page < 1470705028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: *sigh* < 1470705039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right. < 1470705041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see much of trump either, fortunately :P < 1470705062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sticks his hand in the pain hole as punishment
< 1470705065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to have nearly stopped reading ordinary news. < 1470705088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that would be Dune not Star Trek, i think. (unless ST has one too...) < 1470705102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470705256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just done some checking, and the universe is still safe < 1470705270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you check < 1470705285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No company owns the rights to make both Star Wars and Star Trek movies- and, thus, no right to make a crossover < 1470705293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1470705304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank god < 1470705415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent, Firefly is also properly separated < 1470705416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that Star Wars canonically happens "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" that would take some doing to not break all continuity. < 1470705434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Babylon 5 hth < 1470705446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Star Trek has Time Travel < 1470705450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1470705454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's probably a Clone Wars episode with it too < 1470705498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think that Q(?) guy can transport people to way off galaxies. < 1470705519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't actually watched that much star trek.
< 1470705543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q < 1470705544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1470705558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voice actor for Discord in MLP:FiM < 1470705564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a mention of Time Travel in one of the Star Wars books < 1470705566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A canon one) < 1470705584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand the canon in star wars is very brittle. < 1470705585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I can't tell if it's mentioned as something real or just as a hypothetical < 1470705602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, but this book was made specifically to lead up to The Force Awakens, and is officially 100% canon < 1470705611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1470705713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess, when you have a SF franchise written by a lot of authors it's inevitable that someone will introduce time travel (and various other things) unless it's clearly and explicitly forbidden. < 1470705793 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1470705805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(telepathy being another obvious case) < 1470705820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even then, Star Wars's canon (until it was formally disbanded) was set up so ANYONE can make it < 1470705840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ftl travel, of course, if it wasn't there from the start. < 1470705886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it had to be licensed < 1470705897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it still wasn't controlled by LucasFilm < 1470705902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I suppose they could reject a novel) < 1470706032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowhere in official SW canon has Time Travel ever been explicitly used; it's only ever been non-sarcastically mentioned once < 1470706062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if you tried to enforce hard scifi, the problem is that most scifi writers aren't good enough at science to know what is impossible. < 1470706080 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes he's slipping into very [citation needed] claims there
< 1470706158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does SW have force precognition? < 1470706184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right! < 1470706188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because backwards causality would be sort of the firsst step to time travel :P < 1470706193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely < 1470706196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep xD < 1470706211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you can send any form of information to the past, you pretty much have proper time travel < 1470706250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can just route a teleporter through the transmitter (though it'd be difficult, as I don't think machines can access the force- a jedi would have to sit at a keyboard hitting 1 and 0 as he hears it) < 1470706262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for droids, even simpler. < 1470706266 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So it would take decades to get something to the past, and it probably wouldn't be accurate) < 1470706274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just transfer their mind. < 1470706279 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1470706297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you can time travel but it takes a long time to do it, you risk broken-offset time travel) < 1470706338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could build a biological computer with force powers. < 1470706371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although by the laws of plot, it'd inevitably turn into a supervillain. < 1470706420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true < 1470706432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd allow time travel, but it'd give the traveler a goatee < 1470706437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus turning them evil < 1470706438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1470706459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm and the good version would turn up in an evil past < 1470706486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they'd have to work hard to send each back to the right mirror universe. < 1470706496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, force prophesies aren't absolute and the future is always in motion < 1470706496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1470706506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sad trombone* < 1470706537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decision-forking Multiverses do throw a wrench in any time travel plot < 1470706566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're liable to get literally millions of time travelers from every future that discovers and uses it < 1470706583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is likely a lot because of the decisions that /don't/ affect earth at all < 1470706594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if the branching goes both forward and backwards. < 1470706602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me of the Ed stories. < 1470706746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470706746 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, if the branching is symmetric, then you'll statistically end up with approximately one future matched to your own. < 1470706752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1470706760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(waving hands) < 1470706772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, where's the centerpoint? < 1470706776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/where/when/ < 1470706783 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would there be one < 1470706800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well if it's symmetrical, it has to have a line of symmetry < 1470706800 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470706803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the centerpoint < 1470706815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's also translation symmetric. < 1470706829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every point an work as the center. < 1470706831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What we're saying here is that, when you travel back in time, you go to a unique only-for-your-future history, correct?) < 1470706832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can < 1470706837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470706869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but only statistically. < 1470706894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be a couple futures matching the same past, and vice versa. < 1470706910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it'd be a little awkward if there were none... < 1470706912 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1470706930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome blockzombie < 1470706931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02blockzombie: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1470706953 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1470706960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although currently we seem to be discussing scifi time travel < 1470706972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo_with_a_Shotgun < 1470707004 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I was hoping to catch some context, maybe thought it was like multithreaded intercal where there may not be goto but there can be comefrom - multiple comefroms indicate thread spawn < 1470707068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockzombie: hey that's a good analogy < 1470707085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i think we were having multiple comefroms _and_ gotos here < 1470707109 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1470707153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockzombie: It started when I checked to make sure no one owns the film rights to both Star Wars and Star Trek, such that no one can cross them over < 1470707163 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1470707176 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If there is a centerpoint, it has weird philosophical implications < 1470707194 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't all time-travel movie plots doomed? < 1470707199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if all histories converge on one point before diverging from there, it means that Free Will is actually < 1470707206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: RELATIVITY, i said. no wait, i didn't, i just thought it. < 1470707216 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470707229 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470707240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1470707247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. well no, i wasn't imagine any centerpoint of that kind. < 1470707251 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means that Free Will is an era-dependent thing < 1470707262 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think it may be < 1470707264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there would be multiple timelines crossing every time period. < 1470707273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and merging/splitting) < 1470707286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it were discovered by humans, it would have serious justice implications if it happened around today < 1470707303 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's worse than that < 1470707324 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our models of causality would be ambiguous < 1470707487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because the defendant's crime was committed 14 minutes before the convergence- thus meaning they didn't have free will at the time- the defendant is found "not guilty" on the grounds of Automatism") < 1470707491 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\)// < 1470707495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen some discussion about free will and determinism over at scott aaronson's blog. he makes a good case that it really doesn't matter for morals/justice. < 1470707496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... now I have to go < 1470707503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1470707505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470707563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he's considered such a convergence, though. < 1470707600 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a subjective history of the time traveller? < 1470707633 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they live, then go back in time, then experience stuff, then "travel" back to some later time again? < 1470707646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's eir memory. i don't know if there's anything else, in a sufficiently weird universe. < 1470707666 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't memory only one example of a time effect on matter? < 1470707680 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't time merely a synthesis of such things? < 1470707689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok, there might be other traces in the body. < 1470707712 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory is not a special case, it's only important to the human whose memory it is < 1470707736 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the time machine would have scuffs on it < 1470707755 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yoghurt in the time machine's refrigerator would go off < 1470707764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1470707804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless of course we're in one of those universes where time changes affect your subjective past as well. < 1470707827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the yoghurt changes randomly to being spelled with and without h) < 1470707898 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya guys or gals have read Anathem by Neal Stephenson? There it is discussed that Narratives thread what you(s) experience. < 1470707918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope alas < 1470707984 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708067 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470708099 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jyazfxecbvtimxao QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470708188 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qktivhllkgiorgcl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708241 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48cc:cede:971d:ea2:93e4:d2ab JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708628 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708646 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470708769 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@2607:fb90:48cc:cede:971d:ea2:93e4:d2ab QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470708912 0 :B1ood6od2!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470709252 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in my list < 1470709301 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all time is frame-of-reference bound anyway < 1470709316 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so time travel is a discontinuity between one frame and another < 1470709454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is a black hole btw < 1470709469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :general relativity is not nice to global frames :) < 1470709487 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a person is in one frame and the environment is in another, then the person (and their time machine) joins that other frame, there is a sequence that is coincident in both frames. Then, when the time machine is fired up to return or leave, the frames are detached. The trouble is, frames are append-only so the shared history remains and they can have a shared future also. < 1470709512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and gödel found a famous solution with time travel in it) < 1470709542 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the time machine's frame, part of its past is in the frame of the environment it visited. In the frame of its past (say the dinosaurs), the time machine will be joined when it gets invented. So the frames have two contiguous regions. < 1470709560 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's enough to get you into trouble. < 1470709590 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely the laws of thermodynamics also go out the window? < 1470709613 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if they are amended, then they should "black hole" like you say oerjan. < 1470709625 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :filling all presents with all possible cases in which time machines exist. < 1470709631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah thermodynamics may be tricky. < 1470709645 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every possible time machine must exist at every possible moment. < 1470709656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you could just say that it's simply statistics + the fact the big bang point has low entropy. < 1470709666 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm.. < 1470709684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think that's the usual explanation) < 1470709697 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm saying that statistically, you can't get away from time machines obviously existing. Either they are unavoidable or impossible. < 1470709840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one obvious way to avoid complete fillup: if you need some machinery at the time you're traveling to as well, and it has limited capacity. < 1470709864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which also explains why we haven't seen any time travelers yet) < 1470709872 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1470709878 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could anything have limited capacity? < 1470709906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if it needs to use energy to actually rebuild whoever is travelling? < 1470709909 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any material required in target time must be synthesisable in its past < 1470709926 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470709928 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the material emerged from a past that must include now < 1470709954 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm does this hold if target time material is different to source time material? < 1470709982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this scheme you are not increasing the amount of material, just transforming it. < 1470710022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it all depends on having technology that can transform well enough. < 1470710221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if too many time travelers arrive, you end up with no material left to accomodate them (without taking some of them apart again...) < 1470710240 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470710250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this could still use a lot of resources. < 1470710263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sounds like an obvious invasion plot) < 1470710636 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are basically talking about something that is often called time gates, no? < 1470710649 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1470710655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470710772 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470711613 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470711779 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470711858 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470712050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470712058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The felony murder rule is interesting < 1470712084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that if, in the process of committing a felony, you wind up killing someone (even with no intention of doing so), you can be convicted of murder < 1470712393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already know the american "justice" system is crazy tyvm < 1470712436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the rule would be ok if you only had _actual_ serious crimes as felonies. < 1470712457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :barely. < 1470712580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gah, why am i joining this discussion) < 1470713135 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :USA "justice" system seems to be more about revenge than dealing with crime or servere disagreement < 1470713179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :over at "the whiteboard": aww, and the date was going so well. < 1470713605 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470714143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yeah, that's us < 1470714168 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who? < 1470714173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USA < 1470714192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, Tax Evasion, Copyright Infringement, and Cheque Fraud don't seem like they should carry the weight of a murder sentence < 1470714214 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470714265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("You have been found guilty of attempted conspiracy to solicit the incitement of cheque fraud. The penalty is death.") < 1470714266 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: isnt it just usual that in the case of Tax Evasion that people are fined the amount of taxes owed plus some usury interest? < 1470714294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Still a felony < 1470714295 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470714362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It might be able to carry perjury as well, I think, depending on whether your tax returns are considered "under oath" < 1470714367 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in the case of Copyright Infringement I thought it was usually enough for people to advertise that they are not the author. (Copyright Infringement -> Misattributation of authorship) < 1470714407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, it isn't < 1470714444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: That's plagiarism, and isn't so much a crime (usually) as a violation of school rules < 1470714462 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: tax returns arent "under oath" if you include "This information might contain inadvertant errors, the recipiant should verify" < 1470714466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: For example, if you published the entirety of the Harry Potter books, even saying "By J. K. Rowling", it would be copyright infringement < 1470714471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Ah, yes < 1470714540 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right it is the Publishment-Exclusive right, sorry my mistake < 1470714547 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Plagiarism *can* be a crime, insofar as it is fraud. < 1470714558 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some stuff is public domain and is not copyright. < 1470714567 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, it's more complex than just plagiarism is itself a crime. < 1470714579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, yes, that < 1470714591 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Also, apparently fraud isn't a crime, it's a tort. < 1470714596 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think even in such case it would still be plagiarism to claim that it is not public domain, but I do not really understand it < 1470714597 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yet often you are not allowed to declare that public domain stuff is by you unless it literally is < 1470714600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, so that isn't a violation < 1470714603 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. something you can sue someone for, not something you can be arrested for) < 1470714609 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, every word on the esolang wiki (i hope--would be a jerk move if people are copypasting copyright shit onto it) < 1470714617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, yes, definitely < 1470714630 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Depends on the jurisdiction. < 1470714631 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470714643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advertising something as public domain when it isn't would probably constitute a license violation (so lawsuit-worthy, but not criminal) < 1470714663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, AFAICT, Public Domain is basically the same as a null license < 1470714669 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: most sane jurisdiction has it in their laws about Authorship to prevent someone taking something out of the public domain < 1470714712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be lawsuit-worthy, but there isn't anyone who could act as a plaintiff xD < 1470714790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It would be plagiarism to a school... but whether it could be punished by any non-employer authority is probably complicated < 1470714828 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, Cheque Fraud is interesting because an Cheque is a promisary note and also an instruction to your bank to pay someone. If you are forging an Cheque you are basically makeing an false instruction to the backing bank. < 1470714833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only real downside to claiming something isn't public domain is that someone might notice someday and call your bullshit on it, and people would stop pretending it is < 1470714855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It's really pretty much just theft < 1470714908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm really pretty conflicted on regulation < 1470714939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a liberal (~-0.2 on the horseshoe), I feel like they should be < 1470714948 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now, here is a thing, if you forge an Cheque but stamp it with "INVALID" across it. Is it theft? < 1470714951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as a programmer, I feel like that's a stupid idea < 1470714954 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the different idea that you should be allowed to add a public and/or private key on your bank account; these can be used to digitally sign a cheque, as well as to access your account over the internet by SSH. But it is optional thing to do < 1470714968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ooooh < 1470714978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Let's go invent that right now < 1470714982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1470714995 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and perhaps get OpenPGP encrypted statements in email and such < 1470715001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but seriously, a bank that lets you computer it is brilliant) < 1470715013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one field on the cheque you can write the digitally signed numbers. < 1470715058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ooh! And perhaps you could run scripts on it that will automatically turn you a profit (for free or a small fee), but the bank gets to take a percentage of any profits you make (but, naturally, they don't have to pay if you lose money :P)) < 1470715089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bank software is entirely written in funge, of course < 1470715123 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also include the QR code on the bank statement that encodes the compressed contents of the bank statement, so that you can scan it into the computer. < 1470715140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the programmer side of me feels like regulating banks is stupid because, if you bind it to the word "bank", you have the issue of people not calling themselves a "bank" but performing all of the services (with no regulation) < 1470715177 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked my local bank, they werent willing to run anything turing complete nor with any more access than read access to transactionslog. < 1470715192 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digitally sign and QR code feature both require a computer but would not require internet connection, and also would not require you to use a specific computer or their specific software. To access your account over the internet by SSH of course does require internet connection. < 1470715219 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: congrats you just reinvented b-cash iirc < 1470715223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: My local bank only lets me run programs that halt :/ < 1470715248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell whether someone olisted already. < 1470715259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1470715260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1470715263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The answer is yes < 1470715265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone did < 1470715267 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so something that is basically on the level of primitive recursive functions? < 1470715270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me) < 1470715286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, it can be TC, it just can't run forever < 1470715288 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew about the olist for hours but didn't think to olist this place < 1470715307 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so, timeout limit then? < 1470715312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Nope < 1470715329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It's a joke < 1470715336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Because my bank solved the halting problem < 1470715340 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so bullshit in the same category as kyc/aml < 1470715353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they paid off the Turing Estate to lift the restriction, just for them) < 1470715369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you bind it to the stuff done by a bank, it feels stupid because that prevents some probably-legitimate companies from existing because they might have an incompatible set of services (do enough to qualify as a bank, but also do stuff that someone might want but banks aren't allowed to do) < 1470715389 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's my conflict on regulating banks < 1470715443 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what would you consider sane regulation for banks (of the cheque-ing and savings account kind)? < 1470715463 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470715473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Basically, banks should have to follow the laws everyone else does < 1470715494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't tell you they'll hold your money then refuse to give it back, because that would be theft < 1470715546 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :they cant refuse to give it back precisely because it would be theft < 1470715578 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SSH access will have two main commands "inquiry" to tell you how much money you have and "split" to split some of your money into a new account; you can then send the key of the new account to whoever you want to pay (the send can be by internet or using other communications channels; it does not matter). < 1470715586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't violate a contract because that'd be violating a contract < 1470715590 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that is at least in sane juristictions. < 1470715600 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the account and on the bank and so on, there may also be additional commands such as "statement" and "convert" and so on. < 1470715610 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470715636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't break into your house at night, beat the shit out of you, insert a large object into an orifice, then snap your neck, because that would be burglary/assault/battery/rape/murder < 1470715644 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ya read what nick szabo has written? And btw that sounds little bit like the functionality of paymer|webmoney notes < 1470715652 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470715678 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your point? < 1470715694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: That's the stuff that I'm not conflicted at all about < 1470715740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any form of regulation that can be easily evaded with wording or that could prevent a legit company from doing legit things sets of my programmer to varying degrees < 1470715773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Wikipedia lists statutory rape under "Victimless Crimes" < 1470715775 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of regulation would that be? < 1470715794 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: re wikipedia because both parties are consenting < 1470715814 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: True, but... < 1470715827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Pretty much anything, really < 1470715870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in theory, someone could want you to perform any service < 1470715874 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what would you think that a company cant do but is legit in your view. < 1470715885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Risky investing is one < 1470715892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's legit if the customer knows that it's risky < 1470715950 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know enaugh latin but I suspect it would be something to informed cavet emptor, no? < 1470715972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat? < 1470715984 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat < 1470715992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1470716021 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So preventing any service which is classified as a bank (by features) from performing a service that someone could want (and isn't going to victimize someone else) seems stupid < 1470716053 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "AS IS" clause of many software licenses, so to speak. (Also "WARNING THIS SOFTWARE HAS NOT BE CERTIFIED FOR AVIONICS, " < 1470716090 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you are basically entering the area of regulatory capture here. < 1470716115 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is also credit union, and that is also a kind of bank. You need shares in the credit union to have the account, but then you can access it from any credit union ATM (even if it is a different company) and not have to pay the service charge. < 1470716204 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay service charge for using an ATM? where I am from the banks just bill each other and settle in eather direction. < 1470716249 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to pay service charge if the ATM and the account are both credit unions (they can be different credit unions though) < 1470716261 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I have heard numerous times (even from my local bank) to use credit unions in USA and not the banks there < 1470716278 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in Canada < 1470716296 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, same applies < 1470716302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I suppose we can just make a law say that the regulations can be waived by someone signing a contract < 1470716305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conflict resolved < 1470716339 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you sure you havent followed or played any nomics? < 1470716349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I want to < 1470716357 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I'm trying to get into Agora or start my own Nomic < 1470716364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never properly have, no < 1470716374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am, personally, of the opinion that contracts should pretty much be above US law when applied to the group of people signing them, if they're able to reasonably consent to the contract < 1470716375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470716438 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you used that word "reasonably" which to me is a weasle word. (A kind of bullshytte as Erameas in Anathem would say) < 1470716462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, did I? < 1470716480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "reasonably consent" would be defined somewhere < 1470716521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, "not mentally ill (insofar as [...]), over 18, not intoxicated..." < 1470716529 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hmm.. are you familiar with the mouse trap from Agora nomic? it resvolvs around this very issue iirc < 1470716547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1470716553 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how about "is the only company providing this service for residents at place X"? < 1470716578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: How so? < 1470716606 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, you can either sign a contract that waiwes some of your rights, or you don't get, say, internet connection < 1470716619 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am nonplussed about the ISPs (usually cable) in USA. You mean there are exclusive franchises? < 1470716627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean, as in, if ONLY this company gives electricity in your city, they can't mix in "you sign this contract and we give you power, BUT we can kill you if we feel like it" < 1470716629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470716643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an issue < 1470716660 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in the US there are often exclusive franchises. < 1470716675 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, several companies provide such service, but all require such a contract < 1470716711 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about if you can get service without signing such a contract, but it will be much shittier than if you do < 1470716729 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: never understood why that is allowed at all. < 1470716788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I don't know, probably that you can't force a company to provide internet to an area < 1470716790 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then again USA real estates/properties have 'easement' which is bizzare to me < 1470716826 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-gnxzjjejdurajnwq QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470716829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if only one company is willing to provide wifi to a region, then nobody could get wifi at all there because you can't just have one company < 1470716832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easements, though common in the US, are *very* much a common law concept. < 1470716838 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sure, but the converse should also be true: you can not force a company not to provide internet to an area < 1470716843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: So is this the Small Partial Mousetrap? < 1470716849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: True, true < 1470716851 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-rpjcgqlynywtmddh JOIN :#esoteric < 1470716860 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: only USA and UK has it iirc < 1470716873 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, other common law jurisdictions should have it. < 1470716876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: But if exclusive franchises are banned, then those are incompatible < 1470716890 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, easements are non-possessive, non-exclusive rights to property. < 1470716910 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: exclusive franchises are often made and forced upon people without their explict consent < 1470716926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Still impossible < 1470716957 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also you have situations where companies agree to not "tresspass on each other's territory" < 1470716958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you can't force someone to, but you can't force them not to, then if only one person wants to set up shop in a region, you can't make another person do it too to prevent an exclusive franchise, but you can't force the first person not to to prevent an exclusive franchise < 1470716968 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most notable in things like roads and their associated right-of-way: in common law, you can't purchase a road and bar someone access to their property via it, as they possess an easement on that road. < 1470716993 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well, there are sometimes 'limits' on properties but they are always listed in the deed of it. < 1470717025 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470717045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Maybe a different kind of contract would be necessary to waive rights; like, special, separate ones that are ONLY allowed to do one thing < 1470717069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't roll "I can murder you if I feel like it" in with "you get wifi" < 1470717099 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :what defines what can and cannot be combined? < 1470717112 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: exclusive franchise is enforced by law. I am against that. I want the possibility that a competitor can come around if the encumebenant is being nasty with their terms of service < 1470717119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oh, no, we don't have that < 1470717131 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a general rule, how do you prevent loopholing, and if it's per-case, haven't we reinvented regulations < 1470717149 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It's worth remembering the history of common law as an outgrowth of the English feudal system, to try and make sense of WTF it does and how it works. < 1470717166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nowhere in the US where only one company is /allowed/ to provide wifi (I think); its' just that there are some places where only one company has /decided/ to do so < 1470717174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ...fuck < 1470717175 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as relates to property law. < 1470717202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Probably you can only put rightwaiving in one kind of contract and normal stuff in another < 1470717222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: So the mousetrap is basically saying "if I say something, you all have to agree with me"? < 1470717231 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fairly distinct from how it tends to work in civil law. < 1470717242 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope. < 1470717248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oh? < 1470717253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What is it then? < 1470717286 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a mouse trap would be kind of "if you perform this action (or fail to perform it) then you hereby consent to be bound by this contract|contest-rules" < 1470717297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1470717309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So unilaterally-enforced then? < 1470717342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFJ 24 is rather interesting < 1470717377 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if it were allowed you could make an contract that bites an judge in his|her arse if they conclude an spefic trial in certain direction < 1470717438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes < 1470717489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: But what we mean is that it's a contract that you enter without explicitly saying you want to agree to? < 1470717502 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: one consequence of civil law regarding property is that service lines such as sewage, power and such do not have right of way through my property. (Though there is usually agreement for the service lines you request to have on your property to get those services) < 1470717546 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hence there are branches from the mainlines under the roads (which is on land owned by the government) to each house < 1470717611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Someone did <-- you probably did just as clog was down. < 1470717696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes the obvious, but is too far up in the scrollback.
< 1470717779 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: and the title and deed registry is extremely precise regarding where property lines lie. Sometimes resulting in stuff like where an corner of you lot (if it is on the corner of two roads) is owned by the goverment because they though that the corner of the roads would be more curved < 1470717826 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in one case the goverment sold such a corner to the lot owner for token price < 1470717829 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, in common law, while the deed registry is similarly precise, the actual use of the land can override the deed. < 1470717866 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: that's true in common law too < 1470717873 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the bit about underground, I mean) < 1470717881 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470717885 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :in common law, property rights extend indefinitely downwards and upwards < 1470717918 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except insofar as easements go. It's possible for there to be an easement on the property where the service lines go through. < 1470717920 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: not so in civil law. Though there are restrictions on huge properties such as agriculture lands and such < 1470717961 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buuut it gets complicated there. < 1470717964 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(responding to the comment on the actual use of the land overriding the deed) < 1470717990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: clog? < 1470718084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I think you have it backwards < 1470718098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: If you're referring to a specific real-world thing < 1470718120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Hess Triangle" < 1470718146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The government used eminent domain to take Hess's land, but they missed that triangle, so Hess's heirs still owned that little spot < 1470718155 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: not so where I live. The property right extends upward to the defined aerospace floor (lowest that airplanes are allowed to fly) and down to the structural bedrock. So if someone digs a tunnel so far underneeth your house that the tunel might as well not be there structurally wise then you have no property right to it. < 1470718192 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I am refering to a spefic real-world thing and no it was not backwards. < 1470718220 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the road was planned well before any house was to be built < 1470718236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hess_triangle < 1470718239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That? < 1470718292 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the land was bought from a farmer adjenct to the city, roads and property lines decided and then sold in those pieces) < 1470718337 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470718337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, the Hess Triangle was owned by Hess < 1470718348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The city took his land to widen a street, but they missed the triangle < 1470718349 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not talking about the Hess triangle < 1470718365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1470718365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1470718396 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did the city take his land to widen a street? poor planning when that street was laid down? < 1470718403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Time < 1470718415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume < 1470718417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: When the street was laid, we didn't have cars < 1470718419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then we did < 1470718424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they needed the street < 1470718444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hess was compensated for the land, at least) < 1470718519 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the usual rules (where I live) regarding property is that you cannot buy a piece of it unless the property has been split up explictly beforehand < 1470718533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1470718538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under civil law, land is owned from bedrock to the aerospace floor by default < 1470718541 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same applies to the eminent domain) < 1470718547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can land be owned in 3D if requested < 1470718562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh god, and with lax enough timesharing rules, someone can own a 4D plot < 1470718563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470718585 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :not land but property, but only if the properties below have restrictions to literally suport the ones above < 1470718640 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can arbitrarily subdivide property here. < 1470718664 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: same where but you have to declare it to the property registry < 1470718685 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: same if you are combining two adjenct ones into one < 1470718712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: CERN should allocate a 1-square-centimetre space and sell it to people in planck-area plots < 1470718761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5.2438356e+55 plots per person at most) < 1470718765 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I think here you don't *have* to, but if you don't you are going to have a much harder time defending property rights. < 1470718795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: clog is the logging bot hth < 1470718797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: precisely why you have to here < 1470719048 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470719158 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470719164 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the declaration only needs to be public in a way so the landregistry will be informed of it < 1470719214 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely, I think a link somewhere in USA went on the fritz as both freenode and efnet disconnected on me < 1470719335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to introduce "The Pinocchio Bill" to congress: the text is simply "Congress shall not pass the Pinocchio bill" < 1470719358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any congressman who comments that it creates a paradox they cannot escape from will be immediately removed from office < 1470719507 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no paradox if they don't pass it hth < 1470719544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Exactly, that's the point < 1470719570 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So if they are too hasty and think that there is a paradox, then they should be removed from office because they don't understand even basic logic < 1470719573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...waaaait < 1470719585 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pinocchio Paradox is broken < 1470719598 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no rule against Pinocchio's nose growing when he tells the truth < 1470719606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the solution is that his nose does grow < 1470719738 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you are saying that the growth of his nose is the consequent of an implies condition which is "pinocchio is lieing", yes? < 1470719762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yes < 1470719775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: But nose growth is possible when pinocchio is /not/ lying < 1470719777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, wait, wait < 1470719806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does pinocchio's nose grow only when he lies, or does it grow any time he makes a false statement? < 1470719809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls that in the original book, there are two kinds of lies, the other gives short legs instead.
< 1470719873 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if the latter is true then he can get a job as an science instrument though it would require a saw < 1470719878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Really? < 1470719881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1470719884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What are the two types? < 1470719891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and which are they bound to?) < 1470719894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Of course < 1470719898 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure the fairy elaborated on that. < 1470719947 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :Ellbereth < 1470720011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the original was, afaik, a christian (catholic) moral fable, don't expect it to follow programmer logic. < 1470720029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has forgotten most of it, anyway.
< 1470720052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i ever _did_ read it through. < 1470720057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1470720065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found it < 1470720080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Short leg lies are ones that people believe for a little while, but that will eventually be shown false < 1470720096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Long nose lies are obviously false to everyone EXCEPT the liar < 1470720096 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. I think there was some wizard fantasy where even an journey man could make an stone that gave the holder a burning sensation if he uttured a false statement. Most of the wizards thought it useless until someone started to keep a list of statements that he or she had tried and the outcome < 1470720148 0 :Ellbereth!?@? NICK :I < 1470720148 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest73273 < 1470720153 0 :Guest73273!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1470720271 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: And the outcome? < 1470720289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470720301 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :one story was about a theif had acquired such a stone and used it to map out the premises of a place he wanted to bulgarize < 1470720399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if pinnocchio's nose was just true/false, then it would have serious military applications: "Iran has a nuke", "Russia plans to start a war with the USA", "There is an active, serious attack being planned on American soil" < 1470720425 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470720466 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theif could only do it a few times before anyone with any wealth worth the risk cought on. < 1470720502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more terrifying is if it's the other way around- if Pinocchio says something will happen, the growth of his nose doesn't indicate the future; if he says something about the future is true and his nose doesn't grow (perhaps because it wasn't strictly a lie or because it has been prevented using LAZERS), then he has now set a mandatory future event that cannot be averted < 1470720565 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :those people just hired security that had the job to regularly use such a stone to ask if anyone was or had recently used such a stone to enquire about the contents of a specified residence or building. If so then valueable stuff was moved around. < 1470720605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the stuff has been moved around" < 1470720627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, once all knowledge is accessible upon specific true/false query, the world gets complicated < 1470720630 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw those stones were unable to say anything about the future < 1470720672 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you got the zen feeling of both the sensation of burning and not burning < 1470720756 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that was the entire point of the story < 1470720771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1470720812 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470720828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Was the zen feeling weighted? For example, if you say something that is true in 1 in 4 potential futures, do you feel 1 part burning, 3 parts non-burning? < 1470720848 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also the restriction that the enquries must be stated about objective and not subjective < 1470720865 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope, just always equal < 1470720896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: How would it respond to "The Prequels were decent movies"? < 1470720921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what if you make a collective statement without a qualifier? < 1470720932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Can it ansible? < 1470720954 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: by not doing anything as such is an subject enquiry < 1470720963 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the prequels one that is) < 1470720979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: No, it's pretty objective IMO < 1470720984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, no, IMF) < 1470721121 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "The blue stone was at time inside the second ring on the board", kind of questions? < 1470721145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Wat? < 1470721167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, like, if you say something like "Cretians are liars" < 1470721184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It clearly isn't subjective < 1470721192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's hard to pin it as true or false < 1470721210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't say "ALL Cretians" < 1470721219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't say "SOME Cretians" < 1470721229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically "Rule of Thumb: Cretians are Liars" < 1470721244 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot that the stones only gave the burning sensation for false statements < 1470721326 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the statement must be completely understandable by the asker to be as spefic as possible or nothing would happen < 1470721402 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that I am off to bed < 1470721407 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470721745 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1470721831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody MMWed that an Olympian will learn Spanish to prepare for the Rio Olympics < 1470721841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then quickly learn their mistake < 1470721870 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470721904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://xkcd.com/246/ < 1470721929 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1470722316 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470722716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just opened https://www.reddit.com/r/the_donald < 1470722717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470722720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a parody? < 1470722751 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470722926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/MarkMyWords/comments/4vcce3/mmw_on_obamas_last_day_in_office_he_and_his/d5xq10x < 1470723073 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunder xωx < 1470723158 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470723226 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the_donald is its own parody < 1470723241 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people there are honest though < 1470723247 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's quite conservapedia < 1470723275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1470723315 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470723347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LBJ was sworn in using Kennedy's instructions for how to do mass, as no Bible was on hand < 1470723354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sovereigns would have a field day on that < 1470723761 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-rvtvbaeogxpcnfqt QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470724442 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470724714 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470725443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp/b_jonas: Make #esoteric fnordy again < 1470726498 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_poetry < 1470726507 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Perl < 1470727636 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470727716 0 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470728032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470728126 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470728390 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a regex to match lines that contain at least 3 different characters? < 1470728399 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470728667 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm not sure there's a succinct one < 1470728699 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minimal DFA requires |\Sigma|^2+2 states, pretty trivially < 1470728731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you put \n in a negative lookahead? < 1470728739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, \ < 1470728780 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :backreferences and lookaheads are not features of regular expressions hth < 1470728786 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in #regex gave me this https://regex101.com/r/xW5iA0/1 < 1470728951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats alercah -----###
< 1470728996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh right clever < 1470729056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the *+ for < 1470729083 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :super greedy < 1470729096 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the right term for that < 1470729121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, no backtracking? < 1470729131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you'd need that. < 1470729173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for that technique) < 1470729237 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's a cut < 1470729518 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called possessive quantifier btw < 1470730513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470731418 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470732779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1470732790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a game is updated, does the ESRB have to re-rate it? < 1470732809 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an esrb? < 1470732852 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :eric steven raymond's beard < 1470732970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Electronic Systems Rating Board, I think < 1470732983 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's decided, it's esr's beard < 1470733081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn esrb//ESRB = Eric Steven Raymond's beard < 1470733084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «esrb» < 1470733091 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :electronic steven rating beard < 1470733112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: But IRL, it's the organization that says what games have too much blood or how bad it is that two people kissed < 1470733133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, let's be honest, gay men kissing is MUCH more likely to be bumped up than straight men kissing) < 1470733157 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'd guess how bad a kiss is heavily depends on the genders of the participants? < 1470733161 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1470733181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That's what I just said < 1470733195 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read it while typing < 1470733197 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :straigt couples only have great kisses? < 1470733198 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1470733207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 men < 2 women < man/woman < 1470733223 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because murica < 1470733230 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 3 men + 2 women < 1470733242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, but straight couples are the least likely to offend Curmudgeons on the ESRB < 1470733246 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Depends on the graph < 1470733255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Please give me the proper digraph of kissing and I can clarify < 1470733272 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all sort of sticking their tongues out to touch the other five's < 1470733278 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :err four's < 1470733289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weirdly, the kissing digraph allows both loops AND duplicated edges) < 1470733293 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, tongue < 1470733302 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll get nuked from orbit < 1470733310 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts?pid=6173274135056727234&oid=102150693225130002912 can we talk about this? < 1470733312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes < 1470733332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That is, they'll allow you to release it, but only as DLC on an Alien game < 1470733340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: That cannot possibly be real < 1470733358 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's very good 3d graphics < 1470733428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, my problem is with Linus Torvalds using Google+ < 1470733436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, which is the paranoid one?) < 1470733440 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's been using it for years < 1470733441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's rms, isn't it < 1470733442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1470733443 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where have you been? < 1470733447 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's rms < 1470733450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1470733473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rms is the one who has someone email him the HTML and prints it out, right? < 1470733486 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux 4.0 got nicknamed "hurr durr ima sheep" because of a google+ poll < 1470733520 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least he doesn't back up like boaty mcboatface < 1470733542 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's arguably not even the worst name so far < 1470733553 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names < 1470733568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux for workgroups is by far the best one < 1470733570 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: heh, maybe a cockpit in some museum rather than an actual in-use plane < 1470733581 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's his name on it < 1470733584 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: :D yeah < 1470733591 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh.. good point < 1470733688 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the jeff one < 1470733752 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :killer bat of doom <3 < 1470733783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esrb < 1470733784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/ESRB = Eric Steven Raymond's beard < 1470733799 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd esrb//s,.,, < 1470733801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/esrb//ESRB = Eric Steven Raymond's beard < 1470733825 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux 2.6.15 sliting snow leopard is older than mac os x snow leopard < 1470733835 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPLE STOLE IT < 1470733846 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUE THEM < 1470733851 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY MUST PAY < 1470734105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I really think they should've named it boaty mcboatface < 1470734166 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a voting for a design for a pril bottle (don't know if that's a thing elsewhere) < 1470734196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Got_Back#Synopsis < 1470734273 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://net-netz-blog.de/index.php/wie-marketingaktionen-im-internet-nach-hinten-gehen-konnen/ (german) < 1470734323 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they voted on a sticker for a bottle of washing stuff and a meme would've won by a landslide < 1470734426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel it's time for me to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix < 1470734611 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470735746 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ship prefix sounds like something you put in front of your forum nickname to indicate your shipping preferences. < 1470736830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As Theseus once said, "I like big boats and I always lie" < 1470737172 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470737392 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470737545 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470739090 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470739358 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470741672 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470742212 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h132.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470742402 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470743051 0 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470743112 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470743113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minsky//to Minsky on : /mɪnskiː/ To act as a Minsky machine on; of a program or programming language, to encode its entire state into the object as a single integer. < 1470745636 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470745705 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PARBOILED CHICKEN < 1470745982 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470746023 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470746467 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470746566 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470747735 0 :ybden!?@? NICK :evilybden < 1470748460 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470749985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470750090 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470751140 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an object-oriented minsky machine < 1470751154 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470751172 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1470751252 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Floater14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49102&oldid=42435 5* 03Zom-B 5* (-152) 10Source and binaries < 1470753582 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470754839 0 :contrapumpkin!?@? NICK :copumpkin < 1470755140 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470756028 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470756273 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470756468 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbnsovrochaaruzm QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470756486 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytyuanffpnnyqtmp JOIN :#esoteric < 1470757635 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470757653 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470757775 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1470758466 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470758486 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470758992 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470760496 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470761593 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470761772 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470761946 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470761948 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1470764059 0 :evilybden!?@? NICK :ybden < 1470765623 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/kzzCkXd.jpg birth of openbsd < 1470767659 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to stop accepting patches from, well, from developers with a proven history of causing critical security vulnerabilities until our code reviewers can figure out what's going on. < 1470767743 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's start a new sound merger in English! The Darn-Damn merger! < 1470767816 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way rn won't just look like an m it will sound like one too! < 1470768016 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470768021 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone has a .corn domain? < 1470768082 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470768234 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.corn < 1470768651 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uni.co.de < 1470768736 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the startup for marketing the .corn domain would be uni.corn. a.corn would house the root servers. < 1470768915 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, another fun one would be .www domains < 1470768993 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.kayak.www < 1470769359 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1470770549 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470770654 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470770804 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470770830 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470771322 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470771840 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470771875 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470772036 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-avccgjtjbxcnwohq QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470772348 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kflabdsqdfxslotz JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773133 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773187 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470773290 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470773403 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470773508 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470773534 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d9ec:cc02:154e:d728 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470773701 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470773735 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470774359 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470774374 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470774539 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470774660 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3045:65a4:93aa:6ab8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470775250 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man people swear at cell phones a lot < 1470775288 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470775596 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1470775641 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We have to bring balance between the light and dark sides of the Force" "OK, let's make sure there are a shitton of light side users and absolutely no Dark Side users whatsoever, that sounds pretty balanced" "Yeah, sounds go- wait, what?" < 1470775870 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring peace by conquering everything < 1470775957 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/empiredidnothingwrong < 1470775958 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3045:65a4:93aa:6ab8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470775990 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1470777876 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3868:83af:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470778279 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470778980 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470779918 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470780121 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470781547 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470781699 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470782412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470782442 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470783026 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470783081 0 :nitrix!~nitrix@unaffiliated/nitrix JOIN :#esoteric < 1470783644 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470784240 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1470784244 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1470784263 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1470784263 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1470784304 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1470784304 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1470784355 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470784481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470784777 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hashfunc () { local LC_ALL=C; printf %u\\n "$(( 64#9876543210${1//[!0-9a-zA-Z_@]/_} ** 2 ))"; }; hashfunc "hello world!" < 1470784778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10164816120765323521 < 1470784805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bad is that? < 1470784963 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the fastest string hash i could come up with in bash < 1470784993 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean fastest decent string hash < 1470785010 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qhttp://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-pictures/how-to-reset-volume-mixer-levels/39b6e5f2-0ee9-463c-89c9-8257264294cf?auth=1 < 1470785012 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even does avalanche nicely < 1470785013 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470785013 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-pictures/how-to-reset-volume-mixer-levels/39b6e5f2-0ee9-463c-89c9-8257264294cf?auth=1 < 1470785434 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bad is it for a hash function if hash(i) + hash(i+1) is always an odd number? < 1470785553 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe okay for hashtables, unacceptable for cryptography. < 1470785587 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's to color the hostname in my shell prompt < 1470785632 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably okay then < 1470785908 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470785927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for the glorious future when we can say "Greedo shot first, but due to the speed-of-light delay, there is no way Han's shot could have been specifically in reaction to Greedo rather than coincidentally placed" < 1470785957 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody would ever say that < 1470785959 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1470785983 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :han shot first case closed < 1470786025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Han shot first, but when the timestream was rewritten by the great Sacul, things changed" < 1470786060 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, egroeg sacul < 1470786101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: HOW DARE YOU DEFAME THE GREAT SACUL < 1470786118 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do D: < 1470786119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EGROEG" IS NOT A PROPER WAY TO REFER TO YOUR GOD < 1470786129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I know it's "george") < 1470786145 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a properer name? < 1470786152 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h156.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470786154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Curious George Lucas < 1470786184 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the Jungle < 1470786462 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470786641 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470786710 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-129-217-145.range81-129.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1470787177 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470787295 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470788371 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470788451 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3868:83af:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470788514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470788700 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470788705 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1470788868 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470789073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kamisarakoily! < 1470789201 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:306c:898f:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470789203 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470789213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallopia < 1470789220 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boily is here? crehzeh < 1470789225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1470789246 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1470789319 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwiriwe oerjaneza! < 1470789334 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okinawan? < 1470789334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog seems a little unstable lately :/ < 1470789341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1470789386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another bantu language? < 1470789393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check... < 1470789399 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hth < 1470789400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1236) what? I just wanted a laugh... lol I need to stop using lol, lol just stop then, hth \ 1281) i don't approve of nuclear-free zones; without nuclei we'd not exist hth < 1470789440 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's a bantu language too. kinyarwanda. < 1470789458 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner. < 1470789462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's as close as i'm competent to guess, so googling -> < 1470789466 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's upcoming? < 1470789501 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should know i'm on school-year schedule now, which means i will basically never be online right now on weekdays < 1470789506 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :except possibly thursdays < 1470789510 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinyarwanda, it says. < 1470789515 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: tile shuffling! < 1470789519 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjabboily < 1470789520 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGHGHGH! < 1470789541 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tile shuffling < 1470789544 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tile shuffling? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470789545 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you should just skip school to idle on irc < 1470789572 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if i were a student, i would totes do that--and did < 1470789598 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never IRCed during class, and nobody has proof that I did. < 1470789604 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles
< 1470789633 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: damn. that one is hard. < 1470789635 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470789642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: okinawan is way off from the right continent hth < 1470789715 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you come up with these well in advance? < 1470789718 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quechua? < 1470789742 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and/or aymara) < 1470789772 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peru is a cool place < 1470789774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no i just found it < 1470789782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *ding* aymara < 1470789796 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the people on the floating islands of titicaca < 1470789803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1470789919 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470789928 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the Uros. "Uru people" < 1470790143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tile shuffling/Tile shuffve games. ly addictie basis of many highling is th < 1470790145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tile shuffling» < 1470790226 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tile shuffling is the basis of many highly addictive games? < 1470790231 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1470790269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of addiction, I have new recruits to contact. < 1470790274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i used genuine shuf for reliability hth) < 1470790290 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what command exactly? < 1470790317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf < 1470790323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't use _only_ that. < 1470790331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :split it up and rejoined in vim. < 1470790364 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. what sequence of commands and keystrokes? < 1470790375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inefficient ones. < 1470790390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1470790429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by heaps of arrows and correcting for accidental autoindent. < 1470790467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other way, J followed by similar correction hth < 1470790505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess i could have programmed the former, the latter is a little more awkward, like joining in sed always is.) < 1470790719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afterwards i checked, and it seems that shuf doesn't have any option for splitting by length. < 1470790749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there's that command which i've never used... cut or something? < 1470790761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope. < 1470790833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note however, that i've now spent more time thinking about how i could have done it more efficiently than it took to mungle it half-manually. < 1470791238 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470792377 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470792432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470793048 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h156.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470793658 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:306c:898f:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470794901 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470795210 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470795645 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonnuitopia, boerjannuit! < 1470795652 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GRAVEYARD CHICKEN < 1470796629 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The future will likely be an interesting place < 1470796642 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if the big stuff on the internet stays accessible and doesn't get flushed out < 1470796654 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then peoples' opinions and beliefs will stick around longer < 1470796699 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can see /exactly/ why people wanted to ban gay marriage historically, because they came out and said it (and if they lied, the opposition called their bullshit) < 1470798472 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470799050 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytyuanffpnnyqtmp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1470802820 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470803072 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470803176 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c168:2130:fede:5318 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470803563 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :calello < 1470803754 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c168:2130:fede:5318 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1470804090 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach me your obscure ways < 1470804333 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470804865 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you don't feel like sharing with the class < 1470804967 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1470805010 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand how this strcmp makes the sort stable https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/posix/sort.c#L262-L267 < 1470805012 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote cale < 1470805012 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :osfameron says: I don't think he can read your fancy schmancy lowercase letters. ale: damn right < 1470805023 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls halp < 1470805132 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470805777 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470806647 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470807876 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's not claiming to make it a stable sort < 1470807895 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's saying it will give the same answer every time < 1470807902 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1470807916 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this results in a stable sort :o < 1470807955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what a stable sort means. < 1470807980 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what it means but the result is a stable sort < 1470807980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a stable sort means that if two elements compare equal, they are kept in the same order. < 1470807986 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i *know* < 1470807991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470807992 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: xx and yy are the address of the things. if we sort them according to their addresses when sorting them by their keys doesn't help, we'll always put the one that came first originally first again < 1470808010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1470808013 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah it sorts the addresses < 1470808045 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it sorts addresses with strcmp? < 1470808073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure this thing doesn't crash all the time < 1470808078 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the addresses point to malloc'd memory areas < 1470808090 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i haven't found a way to crash it yet < 1470808102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it's malloced as one array... < 1470808112 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470808121 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an array of pointers < 1470808124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought it involved sorting horses? < 1470808139 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but why using strcmp to compare addresses? < 1470808144 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: actually, xx and yy are char *, so i guess they are strings... i take it back i'm going to bed < 1470808151 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470808185 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like...what: *xx = *(char **)xarg < 1470808200 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1470808211 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comparison function for qsort is passed char ** pointers < 1470808217 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says... xx is a pointer to a char * < 1470808222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have no idea where your pun is hth < 1470808225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1470808226 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes quintopia < 1470808234 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: stable sort hth < 1470808237 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how qsort works < 1470808256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits shachaf with the saucepan for variation ===\__/
< 1470808340 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ printf %s\\n foo bar Foo fOo bAr | toybox sort -f | tr '\n' ' ' < 1470808342 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bAr bar Foo fOo foo < 1470808346 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ case insensitive non stable < 1470808350 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ printf %s\\n foo bar Foo fOo bAr | toybox sort -sf | tr '\n' ' ' < 1470808352 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar bAr foo Foo fOo < 1470808354 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ case insensitive and stable < 1470808475 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats toybox < 1470808514 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/landley/toybox/ this thing < 1470808689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: note that that part you linked to is performed when -s is _not_ set hth < 1470808706 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: looks neat < 1470808707 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1470808778 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :right :O so now i'm even more confused... they managed to make qsort stable in the first place, and then they make it unstable by doing that strcmp? < 1470808789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a fallback sort. < 1470808824 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so back to square 1, how to make qsort stable? < 1470808824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says in the comments "-sskip fallback sort (only sort with keys)" < 1470810049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl genius: finally! (but how will it backfire...) < 1470811926 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:20b6:c59e:f1d1:f751 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470814221 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470814489 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Client Quit < 1470816059 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470817114 0 :moon__!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470817135 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470817617 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1470817818 0 :moonythedwarf!~AndChat57@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1470818480 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470818481 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wikipedia's policy for pagename reassignment? < 1470818501 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wikipedia's policy for page topic reassignment? < 1470818520 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's a page named N describing a topic T1 that is currently the most relevant thing referred to as "N" < 1470818537 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a new, more relevant thing occurs after new information is created or released (T2) < 1470818556 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which T{1,2} gets N- the incumbent or the more relevant one? < 1470819257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Considering_title_changes < 1470819452 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary_topic < 1470819602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: the latter goes into some detail. < 1470819706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: "it's complicated" hth < 1470819758 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470820035 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@LFbn-1-3085-42.w90-79.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT : < 1470820172 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470821383 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470822323 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470822564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470825949 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470826387 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1470828930 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470829141 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470830164 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470830264 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470830535 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470831376 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470831377 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone//drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1470831386 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone sex < 1470831387 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drone sex has never been observed in the wild; in fact it's rare to see drones in their natural habitat because they are extremely shy. Experiments with drones in captivity have only resulted in broken drones, and a rotor stuck in the ceiling. We are still looking for a biological explanation for the ever increasing drone population. < 1470831431 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbiotic relationship? parasites? emergent organoïds? < 1470831468 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :agametic reproduction? < 1470831500 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nhellortti. < 1470831507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. any idea? < 1470832281 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MISTRAL CHICKEN < 1470832430 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470832833 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470834214 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:20b6:c59e:f1d1:f751 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470834312 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470834576 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h142.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470836522 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470837824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49103 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+4616) 10Created page with "Ministring is an esoteric programming language with only two commands, operating on one cell. __TOC__ == Instructions == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Instruction !! Action |-..." < 1470838141 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470838318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49104&oldid=49103 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+118) 10 < 1470838388 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470839036 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49105&oldid=49104 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (-258) 10 < 1470839777 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470840124 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470840219 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470840263 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ais523 < 1470840263 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1470840267 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1470840267 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1470840273 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1470840273 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1470840279 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help list < 1470840279 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :list [module|command]. Show commands for [module] or the module providing [command]. < 1470840286 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :list < 1470840293 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1470840293 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1470840297 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1470840297 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1470840308 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping ais523 < 1470840308 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1470840311 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1470840312 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1470840383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49106&oldid=46238 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+90) 10/* MiniStringFuck */ new section < 1470840473 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49107&oldid=49106 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+0) 10 < 1470841089 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1470841626 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you need a botcommand to ping someone? < 1470841706 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember why i used jfs for my disk < 1470841720 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just seems so much less convenient than ext4 for so little gain < 1470841840 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@myname < 1470841840 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1470841852 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Really? < 1470841858 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to ping??? < 1470841876 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just mention someone? < 1470842987 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470844661 0 :SlayCom!~SlayCom@115.91.7.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470844781 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470844795 0 :SlayCom!~SlayCom@115.91.7.106 PART #esoteric : < 1470847015 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470847543 0 :erikkonstas!8dff505f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.255.80.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1470847929 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470848469 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470848850 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470849836 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470850254 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470851906 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Quit: Big gulps? Well see you later! < 1470851987 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852003 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852140 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked one of the zsh dev why assigning elements to an indexed array degrades very quickly to quadratic time < 1470852159 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected something like "we use linked lists to implement arrays" < 1470852167 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead i got this < 1470852169 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :llua | every index array assignment requires looping over every element to find the length < 1470852171 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :llua | so it takes time in zsh < 1470852341 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852592 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470852660 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdploweqaqvroak QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470852679 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bceuspsatvyuresd JOIN :#esoteric < 1470852699 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470853011 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470853299 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha :( < 1470853318 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds silly < 1470853443 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is length important for that? < 1470853584 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure... all i know is that they're hash tables and they're not sparse, so assigning array[1000]=1 creates 999 empty elements < 1470854523 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't necessarily have to be bad < 1470855232 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470858425 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470859103 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859177 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859235 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859509 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470859532 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470859857 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470860128 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470860198 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: this seems like one of those situations where the time/space tradeoff is TOTALLY WORTH < 1470860260 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :go patch it < 1470860377 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they haven't done so it's because the underlying implementation is so rekt they actually feel like they have a good reason not to. doesn't sound like something i want to even stand near < 1470860483 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what is zsh based on? < 1470860508 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470860512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh < 1470860525 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the question < 1470860536 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the color blue based on? < 1470860542 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it isn't a fork of anything? < 1470860544 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1470860578 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know any shell that is < 1470860592 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcsh is apparently based on csh < 1470860614 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, okay < 1470860631 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :busybox sh is a fork of ash, dash is a fork of ash, mksh is a fork of pdksh, etc.. < 1470860659 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for dash i never heard of any of them < 1470860666 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welö, and busybox < 1470860763 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source projects are very prone to fractures < 1470860767 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know sh, bash, zsh, dash, sash, ksh, fish < 1470860785 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what about csh? < 1470860787 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they are, but i don't see much value in forking a shell < 1470860796 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can remember < 1470860796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :csh used to be quite popular < 1470860836 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :forking means you get to rewrite the parts you hate and add new features that upstream won't merge and fix bugs that they don't care about or don't consider bugs < 1470860874 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, but in a shell? < 1470860892 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is there even a thing you cannot configure in zsh? < 1470860909 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the performance of array operations < 1470860928 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious things, please < 1470860944 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you might want a new and awsomer syntax like csh did < 1470860969 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what syntax did it add? < 1470860996 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it's not called zsh, then how can the XKCD joke be made < 1470861003 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it burns that myname doesnt consider the performance of array operations a serious concern < 1470861004 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it replaces sh's algol-based syntax with a more C or basic based one < 1470861018 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not for a ahell, no < 1470861032 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want fast stuff, i use a programming language < 1470861041 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :later some of its features were merged into bash < 1470861092 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what if you don't care if it's fast, but just don't want it to be abysmally slow? < 1470861118 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use python < 1470861133 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use brainfuck, that has extremely fast array operations < 1470861214 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: there are optimized implementations that do, yes < 1470861252 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...if you define a tape as an array, most implementations have extremely fast array operations < 1470861300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except, of course, the zsh implementation, since that's what started this discussion of array operation speeds. < 1470861464 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'02t03h04e05r06e 07s08h09o10u11l12d 13b14e 15a 16s17c18r19i20p21t 22t23o 24d 25o 26t27h28i29s < 1470861497 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love people writing black on black < 1470861509 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do that? < 1470861511 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470861526 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rainbow << ` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow \ \ changeset: 8744:3000f072eaa6 \ user: HackBot \ date: Tue Jul 05 05:02:42 2016 +0000 \ summary: ` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow \ \ change < 1470863548 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, are there already computer-centric rituals?) < 1470863556 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was hoping you'd say "console" so I can say "PC master race" to oppose your hppavilion[___] master race < 1470863568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1470863573 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/pikhqbow.c < 1470863574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ #include \ #include \ int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L','?"\x0f":"",c);if(++a==6)a=0;goto b;} < 1470863577 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1470863580 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also yes, there are computer-centric rituals... it's called an all-nighter) < 1470863588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC gaming is a tenet of the hppavilion[___] master race, but it isn't a core part < 1470863595 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat src/orenbow.c < 1470863596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){printf("\e[1m");int a,c=0;b:a=getchar();if(a==EOF)return 0;if(!(a&128)||(a&64))printf("\e[%dm","\37! $\"#"[c]),c=c+1-6*(c>4);putchar(a);goto b;} < 1470863609 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right I did something insane that time < 1470863611 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what are the core parts, hppavilion[1] < 1470863637 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say "falling asleep in the glow of an electronic device" is a computer-centric ritual. it replaces the former ritual of vespers < 1470863697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's not so much a ritual as it is a common occurrence that happens by repetitive natural causes < 1470863754 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's something that people choose to do on a nightly basis. what's the distinction < 1470863806 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real computer-centric ritual is, when a friend leaves themselves logged into Facebook on your computer, you post "I'm gay" or one of the other sacred trollposts and promptly log out < 1470863811 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470863819 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls eyes
< 1470863868 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real computer-centric ritual is when you... uh, hang on, let me hook up the terminal-ruining random spam port, please wait... < 1470863937 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :..."nc gamemanj.duckdns.org 25561". Totally not a terminal-ruining random spam port, really! < 1470864343 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching Darmok for the first time < 1470864371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny because the Tama are just like "seriously, bro. How do you not get what we're saying?" < 1470864452 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc gamemanj.duckdns.org 25561 < 1470864452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj.duckdns.org: forward host lookup failed: Host name lookup failure : No such file or directory < 1470864469 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no such file or directory"? < 1470864473 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that was fun < 1470864601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God it's entertaining < 1470864617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they can translate what they're saying into english, but they don't know the context of what they mean < 1470864629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if I could make an english dialect for this...) < 1470864644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trump, always" - You're acting crazy < 1470864748 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste src/orenbow.c < 1470864749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/src/orenbow.c < 1470864790 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc orenwatson.be 80 <<<"GET /allchars.txt" < 1470864791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenwatson.be: forward host lookup failed: Host name lookup failure : No such file or directory < 1470864795 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1470864844 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc 31.50.3.164 25561 < 1470864845 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(UNKNOWN) [31.50.3.164] 25561 (?) : Network is unreachable < 1470864851 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470864862 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, orin, I think HackEgo's network may be down < 1470864885 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't just "no such file or directory", it's "what network interface?" < 1470864896 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dig orenwatson.be < 1470864897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: dig: command not found < 1470864942 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` nc 52.2.213.98 80 <<<"GET /allchars.txt" < 1470864943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(UNKNOWN) [52.2.213.98] 80 (?) : Network is unreachable < 1470864952 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b0bf:b214:27b0:fca6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470864978 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help < 1470864979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help is on the way. We don't know where the way is, though. You might try `help instead. < 1470864984 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1470864984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1470865007 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe hackego doesn;t have internet < 1470865054 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://gamemanj.duckdns.org:25561/ < 1470865055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470865073 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1470865074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1470865083 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it failed < 1470865101 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it said "No output." before I even finished < 1470865125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep "Everything is fine now." * < 1470865126 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: advice: Is a directory \ grep: bin: Is a directory \ grep: cdescs: Is a directory \ grep: emoticons: Is a directory \ grep: esobible: Is a directory \ grep: etc: Is a directory \ grep: evil: Is a directory \ grep: factor: Is a directory \ grep: good: Is a directory \ grep: hw: Is a directory \ grep: ibin: Is a directory \ grep: interps: Is a < 1470865130 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1470865149 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -s "Everything is fine now." * < 1470865150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470865156 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it didn't download anything < 1470865164 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://orenwatson.be/speliG < 1470865165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-10 20:39:01 URL:http://orenwatson.be/speliG [538] -> "speliG" [1] < 1470865170 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec... < 1470865174 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat speliG < 1470865174 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :User-Agent: IrssiUrlLog/0.2 < 1470865181 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't HackEgo < 1470865207 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is probably partially an irssi script < 1470865214 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat speliG < 1470865215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet another spelling reform proposal. \ capital vowels are long, lowercase short. \ bat -> bat bait -> bAt \ bet -> bet beet -> bEt \ bit -> bit bite -> bIt \ bot -> bot boat -> bOt \ but -> but boot -> bUt \ some extra vowels use other letters \ bout -> bWt book -> bVk beaut -> bYt \ when a sound that isn't a vowel is held, it i < 1470865220 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a theory! < 1470865230 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally do NOT http://gamemanj.duckdns.org:25561/ < 1470865233 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA < 1470865240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone - and I do not know who < 1470865248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is making requests whenever a URL is posted in channel < 1470865265 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an irssi script? < 1470865272 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK? < 1470865278 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called IrssiUrlLog/0.2 < 1470865308 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's from a different IP for each one < 1470865314 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiple people doing this, I'd bet < 1470865340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple people in this channel are running something to HEAD any URL posted in channel < 1470865355 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no reason < 1470865368 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't do a GET, they do a HEAD < 1470865425 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to annoy one by redirecting it < 1470865456 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not really, the URLs are getting a bit much < 1470865527 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1470865531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1470865568 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls speliG < 1470865569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access speliG: No such file or directory < 1470865574 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1470865744 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why unicode has fffiflffifflſtst but no ct ligature < 1470865757 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1470865993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the... the ligatures... my head... < 1470866091 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470866698 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: ʣʤʥʦʧʨʩʪʫ < 1470866703 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those also exist < 1470866709 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's head explodes
< 1470866750 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how to confuse an Amiga user: unicodeSupport.ʫh) < 1470866873 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ʪ ƚ < 1470866873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ʪ: not found < 1470867216 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: are you aware of the ㍲㎎ square unit chars, like ㍴, ㎈, ㎉? < 1470867218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867277 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867280 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㍲㎎ is dalton nanograms < 1470867296 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470867427 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎈ories < 1470867441 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba㍴ < 1470867552 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867573 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:384a:5883:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470867839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1470867844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backing up in a loop < 1470868170 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470869031 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470869680 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470869872 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470869913 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470869915 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470869916 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 102100Z 21014G24KT 30SM FEW050TCU SCT080 32/20 A2997 RMK TCU2AC1 SLP150 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1470869918 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1470869941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470869948 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 is too damn high. < 1470870102 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: itym too ㍲㎎ high < 1470870106 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1470870106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 102150Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 -SHRA FEW009 BKN060 11/10 Q1023 < 1470870128 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more pleasant :) < 1470870139 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYB < 1470870140 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYB 102100Z 34009G18KT 270V360 30SM SCT055 BKN090 BKN260 26/20 A3002 RMK CU4AC2CI1 SH E SLP166 DENSITY ALT 2600FT < 1470870161 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1470870161 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 102100Z 28009G15KT 260V330 15SM SCT080 BKN250 35/15 A3002 RMK AC3CI2 SLP163 DENSITY ALT 2800FT < 1470870173 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not make sense < 1470870263 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470870294 0 :carado!~carado@savhon.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470870358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellorin! shed your slashes for summer? < 1470870371 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. for once I envy your weather. < 1470870388 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470870599 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470870773 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470871025 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470871458 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470872406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I live, like, a half mile from an airport, but you never check my weather ;-; < 1470872438 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! sorry, I don't know which airport you are weathered at :( < 1470872453 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or you told me, and I forgot. even more impardonabler.) < 1470872533 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1470872534 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 102220Z AUTO 18003KT 9999 FEW038/// BKN055/// OVC066/// 11/08 Q1005 < 1470873683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470874665 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470874742 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1470874742 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 102254Z 21008KT 10SM FEW017 SCT036 BKN070 BKN220 26/24 A3008 RMK AO2 RAB23E49 SLP185 P0002 T02560239 < 1470874750 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So humid. < 1470874753 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470874999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470875008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW Hippie Vans are complicated < 1470875043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Volkswagen Transporter (Hippie Van) is sometimes referred to as the "Type 2" because of its factory designation (Type 1 was the Beetle/slugbug) < 1470875053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been three versions of the Type 2 < 1470875065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3 (yeah, this is going to get confusing) < 1470875114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T2 came in two generations- T2a ("early bay") and T2b ("late bay") < 1470875122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T2b is the one without the split winshield < 1470875158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A T2c was also sold in South Africa for a while (it may still be, I'm not sure) < 1470875165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference being... the roof is 4 inches higher < 1470875193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are now the Type 3, Type 4, Type 5, and the modern Type 6 < 1470875218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the T4 is where it stops being recognizable < 1470875229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the engine compartment is forward < 1470875241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T5 doesn't even look like the same model any more < 1470875286 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also pickup variants, but we do not speak of those < 1470875307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does this make me a hippie scholar now? Can I get a PhD in hippiology?) < 1470875312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dr-man hppavilion[1]) < 1470875453 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470875478 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470875508 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470875612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470875642 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1470875932 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470875933 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cube//Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1470875957 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess b_jonas, with oerjan overtones. < 1470875963 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/cube < 1470875965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e int-e ais523 oerjan < 1470875971 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1470877052 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470877506 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470877545 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470877743 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid disney.com redirects me to disney.it if i enable js < 1470877749 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i don't, i can't play videos < 1470877805 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. disney.it doesn't work? < 1470877816 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely all disney's videos are on youtube < 1470877822 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't seem to have have anything about moana as of now < 1470877843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that because moana is a well known italian porn star/politician < 1470877851 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470877866 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470877883 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the film will be called oceania in italy and several other countries in eu < 1470877896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and disney.it got nothing about it yet < 1470878137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470878163 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:384a:5883:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470878289 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.disney.com/?intoverride=true yeeah < 1470878292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : darn. <-- *MWAHAHA*hoily. < 1470878618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gørjand kveld < 1470879073 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470879081 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome byteflame < 1470879082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04byteflame: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1470879118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470879420 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hppavilion[1] < 1470879422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09hppavilion[1]: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1470879726 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470879801 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:309c:c3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470879967 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470880840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, he just sent those email messages. < 1470880852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh wong rindwow < 1470881076 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h143.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470881670 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there such a thing as continuous chess? < 1470881767 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elaborate < 1470881772 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont be esoteric < 1470881819 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(; < 1470881837 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checkmately mapoles moonythedwarf
< 1470881863 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1470881867 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote glurk < 1470881868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :678) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. Glurk. < 1470881868 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps boily with a 4r8a9i11n13b17o26w trout
< 1470881878 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`d20 < 1470881880 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: d20: not found < 1470881883 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh... < 1470881887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1470881887 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 18 < 1470881888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that was from a previous continuous chess experiment hth < 1470881895 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: I dodged. < 1470881896 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that how the centre of mass thing started < 1470881901 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1470881903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hm maybe. < 1470881907 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps boily with a big red brick
< 1470881912 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to do a sleep check... < 1470881917 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz don't ask me to explain continuous chess again, i need to go to bed < 1470881925 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PROCEDURAL CHICKEN < 1470882024 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470882091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/d20//echo lambdabot: d20 < 1470882093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/d20 < 1470882094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`d20 < 1470882095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: d20 < 1470882099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope < 1470882105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1470882112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/d20//echo d20 < 1470882113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/d20 < 1470882117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`d20 < 1470882118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1470882118 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: 14 < 1470882140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d20+d2 < 1470882140 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 47 + 2 => 49 < 1470882202 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1 < 1470882202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 1 < 1470882243 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470882245 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d0 < 1470882252 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d2 < 1470882252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 2 < 1470882257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1 < 1470882257 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 < 1470882262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1*10+2*5 < 1470882262 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 * 10 + 2 * 5 => 20 < 1470882296 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4*d20+4d20 < 1470882296 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 4 * 6 + 29 => 53 < 1470882305 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1470882331 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4(d20+d2) < 1470882352 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6d17 + 13d2 + 1d53 < 1470882352 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: 50 + 22 + 22 => 94 < 1470882416 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d-20 < 1470882419 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470882470 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-d5 < 1470882483 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d20-3 < 1470882483 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 51 - 3 => 48 < 1470882491 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d20-3d2 < 1470882491 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 52 - (2+1+2) => 47 < 1470882502 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1470882517 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-d5 < 1470882518 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 0 - 5 => -5 < 1470882534 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps myname with a big red brick
< 1470882546 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :veto < 1470882701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d0*(2+2) < 1470882704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1470882706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470882711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1*(2+2) < 1470882711 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 * (2 + 2) => 4 < 1470882721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d5*d6 < 1470882721 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 5 * 3 => 15 < 1470882739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :d5^d6 < 1470882747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISAPPOINT < 1470882776 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d5%d6 < 1470882782 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR DISAPPOINT < 1470882800 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1%2 < 1470882805 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1470882813 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN MOAR DISAPPOINT < 1470882821 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: 34 % 43 < 1470882835 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U NO SUPPORT MODULUS < 1470882891 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: 4 ^ 5 < 1470882902 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin(5) < 1470882914 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: SIN(4) < 1470882917 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops caps < 1470882919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please test this in /msg < 1470882924 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470882926 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're spamming the channel < 1470882933 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1470882968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: it's not primary a calculator but a dice roller, you have to include at least one dice roll. < 1470882992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, > gives you full haskell expressions. < 1470882996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 ^ 5 < 1470882997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1024 < 1470882999 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d6 ^ 3d10 < 1470883018 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d6 < 1470883018 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: 10 < 1470883021 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d10 < 1470883021 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: 10+5+2 => 17 < 1470883032 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 ^ 17 < 1470883033 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100000000000000000 < 1470883039 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 ^ 17 < 1470883041 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100000000000000000 < 1470883041 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1470883043 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1470883060 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, a perfect 100000000000000000? < 1470883065 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, 10 < 1470883068 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explains it nicely < 1470883081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it uses Integer, which are bignums. < 1470883101 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ik < 1470883108 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 ^ 117 < 1470883110 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... < 1470883138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally the line cutoff is bigger in privmsg hth < 1470883349 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470883596 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470883740 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470883924 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1470883929 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything new < 1470883983 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've just about finished memorizing the lyrics to katyusha hth < 1470884049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for esolangs, i dunno, i don't even keep up with the wiki these days. < 1470884100 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:309c:c3ce:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470884155 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1470884168 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470884203 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470884363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a run in pixel dungeon with 3 artifacts and i cannot decide which to use < 1470884390 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470884424 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixel dungeon? < 1470884427 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470884450 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a roguelike for android and desktop < 1470884463 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the most forked game in play store < 1470884509 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1470884525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainbow test < 1470884526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4t8e9s11t12 < 1470884546 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like heroes of loot? < 1470884560 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470884572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FireFly `` rainbow << gamemanj: yes. but in this case, the optimized implementation will be the default implementation. here is a reference implementation in python: def tbf(s): print "0"*s.count(".") <-- surely you need to skip loops hth < 1470885146 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: damn. forgot about those. < 1470885185 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepend a command that replaces [.] with nothing to the function body < 1470885241 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :greedily < 1470885243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot do it with just one regular expression match hth < 1470885243 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a loop < 1470885250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1470885256 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470885908 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470886222 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls speliG < 1470886223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speliG < 1470886239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag speliG < 1470886241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ fetch http://orenwatson.be/speliG < 1470886246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm speliG < 1470886247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470886290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell orin `revert has a bug so it doesn't work reliably for uncreating files hth < 1470886290 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470886351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell orin and annoyingly, it looks fine right after you've done it. < 1470886351 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470887492 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470888586 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1470888596 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric's founder is... freenode-staff? < 1470888627 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being freenode staff is not that special < 1470888629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that probably has to do with the ChanServ thing, it makes the official owner freenode-staff so that no one on the channel looks godly because of an orange dot (in my client) < 1470888645 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, that's the username < 1470888655 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470888687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not as in "the founder of #esoteric was a freenode staff member!?", but as in "the user who founded #esoteric is of the nick freenode-staff!?" < 1470888825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the user who founded #esoteric got deregistered < 1470888839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and freenode had adopted a policy of taking over foundership themselves < 1470888841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah < 1470888858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, fizzie would have been next in line. < 1470888860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sorry, but is there a command to figure out what the flags are for a channel? < 1470888867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1470888869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1470888873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :access list < 1470888892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure if you need permissions for it < 1470888893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1470888966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't < 1470888997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there are seeeeecret flags that aren't displayed at all, then you need permissions partially) < 1470889013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: +ARefiorstv? Seriously? < 1470889037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must have been crazy 6 years, 24 weeks, and 2 days ago < 1470889094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie set it as +ARefiorstv set "? ago", but that doesn't tell me whether that's the current one) < 1470889114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that's simply "all possible permissions" < 1470889147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i think only the founder can add flags to themselves < 1470889168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or flags they don't have to others < 1470889203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since the list I'm using has R as meaning only registered users can talk on one network, and as a thing that is used to automatically op someone when there are no ops online for a while on another, but obviously neither of those are used here (well, it could be the latter if the list is null)) < 1470889227 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...I'll assume that it isn't current unless Freenode says it means something else) < 1470889232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :R refers to a special "wipe channel" command < 1470889251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's been used, at least since i got here. < 1470889265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, R is the "recover" command < 1470889270 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prefrigerator < 1470889271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefrigerator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1470889446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: also, that would have been fizzie being crazy, when he added me as op hth < 1470889542 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who owned it originally? < 1470889546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1470889549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figured it out < 1470889549 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn prefrigerator Prefrigerators are generalized frigerators with built-in preconditioners for the modern precompact home. They are now available to preorder. < 1470889551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'prefrigerator': prefrigerator Prefrigerators are generalized frigerators with built-in preconditioners for the modern precompact home. They are now available to preorder. < 1470889552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1470889577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everybody calling the thing in Turkey a "coup"? < 1470889586 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/prefrigerator //' wisdom/prefrigerator < 1470889588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470889624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it was andreou when i got here, don't know if it's always been. < 1470889640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's mainly of concern to non-mathematicians (mathematicians may care more percentagewise, but I'm going by gross numbers), shouldn't it be called a 'down'? < 1470889676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks
< 1470889725 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also blinks
< 1470889760 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his swatter. "you're too good for this."
< 1470889785 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1470889867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was it a joke? did you get it? < 1470889885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i got it. it was bad. < 1470889945 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1470889951 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-up < 1470889954 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1470890145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1470890160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a pun so bad that oerjan refused to swat me. < 1470890206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like a Texas judge saying "You know, what you did is way beyond death penalty-worthy; so much so that I'm impressed and I'm-a just let you go" < 1470890234 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my favorites is: your send your friend a list of 10 jokes in hope that at least one of them would make him laugh. no pun in ten did. < 1470890236 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no < 1470890283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you have to keep consistent tense hth < 1470890288 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like you swatted a fly and then called up the police and said "hey im a murderer what are you going to do about it" and they said "meh" < 1470890321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think quintopia is slightly closer hth < 1470890514 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1470890526 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, sent < 1470890560 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not used to think about tenses in english :D < 1470890809 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470890834 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470890909 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470891261 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470891478 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have a fave pun? < 1470891552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "my next one" ) < 1470891579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka i don't remember < 1470891580 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that funny < 1470891783 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think "rude officer red knows rain, dear" is right up there < 1470891849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1470891852 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470891854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1470891882 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say it's swatworthy < 1470891908 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the favorite japanese pun of a friend of mine is kuri to risu < 1470891911 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. if it werent for the elaborate set-up it calls for < 1470891937 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cross language puns are fun < 1470892009 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like that one: http://brownsharpie.courtneygibbons.org/?p=285 < 1470892738 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470892972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my copy of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child < 1470892978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the script, really) < 1470892981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning to read it < 1470893011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But am I supposed to picture Hermione as Noma Dumezweni or as Emma Watson < 1470893144 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@50.25.160.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470893298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah, but Emma Watson is 26 and when TCC takes place she'd be 36 < 1470893362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your only solution is to wait 10 years hth < 1470893587 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: which one is hotter? < 1470893608 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will borrow a copy soon < 1470893612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can't tell if this is a trick question xD < 1470893647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If answering it gets me in trouble < 1470893693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going by physical appearance alone, Emma Watson. Personality and intelligence are irrelevant to the discussion because it's a fictional character and the personality will be the same either way xD < 1470893694 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have to answer < 1470893703 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :decide for yourself < 1470893733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was honestly probably going to use the exact same metric < 1470893768 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, but if Emma Watson tragically dies in the next 10 years, I'll never be able to read it! :,O < 1470893811 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, kill yourself hth < 1470893838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1470893855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter starts going to Hogwarts in 1991, at age 11 < 1470893864 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1470893885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final book is at age 17, and if we assume it's early 11 and late 17, that makes it a 7 year gap in the books < 1470893910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The epilogue of Deathly Hallows takes place "19 years later" and [SPOILERS] TCC starts there < 1470893912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1470893941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means TCC takes place in 2017, I think < 1470893944 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my opinion "which one is hotter?" and "kill yourself" are both quite out of place in here < 1470893945 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1470893951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so please stop it < 1470893976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, unless we're discussing (a) stars and lasers and (b) ...quantum immortality maybe? < 1470894004 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again harry potter is out of place too < 1470894037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not particularly < 1470894061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Not as much though < 1470894111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Which is hotter" in the context of attractiveness is out of place on #esoteric because #esoteric is a small room where beings of pure, formless energy converse < 1470894235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-ethical-singularity doesn't seem quite as crazy on the fifth reading < 1470894297 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but you agree it is a good metric for deciding how to visually imagine a cgaracter in a piece of fiction so it was perfectly germane to the conversation at hand < 1470894371 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah, but we like to pretend that it isn't part of being a non-asexual human < 1470894454 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like to pretend < 1470894471 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to stay honest with myself < 1470894479 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretend to like to pretend < 1470894499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, I was just going for "is there anything in the book for which race is relevant?"; I suppose that (a) no, because it's a play and should be approximately reproducible with a completely different set of actors and (b) if it actually is relevant, it'd definitely be mentioned- then again, I'm reading it in script form, so there isn't really a way to mention it outside the very beginning) < 1470894502 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that sometimes < 1470894509 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :butni dont enjoy it < 1470894541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also realized that reading a book in script form is probably pretty good for me, because it's basically just bullet points of story < 1470894552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bullet points are very nice < 1470894560 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no reason race is relevant at all. i find it a stranfe question. < 1470894575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well it's possible to have a story where the race of characters is important < 1470894610 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Most obviously TKaMb, but it's also possible with non-racially-oriented stories < 1470894614 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am forced to admit that there arent many blacks named Granger... < 1470894647 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is possible to have such a story but hp doesnt seem like one < 1470894676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't, but it could be < 1470894696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a character interpretation where, if Hermione is black, everything feels so much more meaningful < 1470894732 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :id have to reread it all to verify that < 1470894758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because as a muggle-born, the assholes asshole her; if she's black, it can become something where she thought that becoming a wizard would get her away from the racism, but it turns out wizards have their own racism that she ALSO is susceptible to < 1470894802 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was racism a big issue in early 90s svotland? < 1470894808 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :scotland < 1470895027 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1470895047 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by that, I mean I know people mostly fougyht with their neighbors. < 1470895069 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1470895152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Not ostensibly, but I see "is racism an issue" as a matter of "are more than ~5% of people racist" rather than "are there any racists at all in the country" < 1470895161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 5% is still a REALLY big number < 1470895171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, 2% is a better number I suppose < 1470895188 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, early 90. < 1470895205 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired and read early [number] as meaning ancient times. < 1470895215 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 1890s < 1470895222 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or earlier centuries. < 1470895293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah xD < 1470895484 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it seems clear to me that rowling intended most of the hp characters to be white, but (possibly intentionally) left open the possibility they werent < 1470895510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.2% of people in the UK are black ATM, so if we assume that all characters' races are selected completely at random when race is not a significant factor (let's pretend they are; they aren't, but it probably still approximates), the odds of none of the main characters being black is around 94%. Which is obviously completely meaningless, but I'm really just a fan of doing statistics for fun and don't care about the odds as they < 1470895510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :contribute to the book < 1470896265 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/chatziko/location-guard/ < 1470896962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some areas of my opinions, I think, have reached the point of "meta-feminist" < 1470896999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A big thing that feminists- across all waves- want to do is "raise strong, confident daughters, and tell girls that it's OK to stand up for yourself" < 1470897052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is "Being a strong, confident woman is perfectly normal and good, but it's also usually completely fine if you want to be dependent and let other people do the talking for you. Whatever feels best for you" < 1470897082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("(you should be able to stand up for yourself if you need to, but you don't have to do it all the time)") < 1470897141 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how is that related to feminism? < 1470897150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Because it goes to the meta... < 1470897152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was clear < 1470897187 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that also meta-antifemminism? < 1470897199 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ...no? < 1470897260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, meta-feminism probably ties together with anti-feminism; whenever you go up by a level of freedom, the lower level seems wrong and oppressive < 1470897324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like how a dystopic society where speaking political dissent is a crime- but holding the opinions isn't- will see a society where even holding those opinions is a crime the same way our society sees them < 1470897331 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And really, there's probably another level up < 1470897353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably an uber-free level of society above us that would see our society as a horrible dystopia < 1470897367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't think of what that might be < 1470897442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I got these ideas from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, of all places < 1470897455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of being about raising all girls to be strong, confident women who don't need no man < 1470897466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has several characters, some of which fit that description and others of which don't < 1470897487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[fandom mode activated] < 1470897515 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While Twilight fits perfectly into the stereotypical positive, strong roll model for little girls < 1470897530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fluttershy very much doesn't, more reminiscent of the Classic-era Disney princesses < 1470897563 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-clear < 1470897563 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whenever you go up a level" < 1470897564 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1470897567 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1470897574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Of freedom < 1470897577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed words < 1470897578 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1470897578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 36m 45s ago: `` rainbow << There's probably an uber-free level of society above us that would see our society as a horrible dystopia < 1470906420 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you read Three Worlds Collide < 1470906423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...well yeah < 1470906433 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: No, what is it? < 1470906436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vashta Nerada < 1470906438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep tight < 1470906493 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a short story relevant to that thought! Coincidentally this channel introduced me to it < 1470906789 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470908395 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470908400 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a01c:23db:2134:8d83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470908477 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1470909926 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470910843 0 :augur_!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470910887 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7420:2f5e:93bb:cefe JOIN :#esoteric < 1470911174 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7420:2f5e:93bb:cefe QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470911219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1470911240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49108&oldid=49105 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+13) 10 < 1470911328 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49109&oldid=49108 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+2) 10 < 1470911458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49110&oldid=49053 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+21) 10Added language MiniStringFuck to the list! Yay! < 1470911505 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470911936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49111&oldid=49110 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (-46) 10No, no external site!! < 1470912062 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470912073 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470912130 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470912396 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d47b:5b98:942e:fcd9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470912466 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470912849 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470912863 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:582d:1f01:e258:8575 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470914564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470914810 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470914892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470915305 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470916117 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1470916118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti//nortti is a very nortti boy. He yielded to shikhin's promises, and now is his High Priest. < 1470916168 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1470916195 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how nortti < 1470916284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shikhin < 1470916284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin is a Malevolent God, who will promise you stuff tomorrow. < 1470916424 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>?~}{+-.,\*_!&%tell shikhin please don't kill me! < 1470916448 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you'd have thought one of those characters would have triggered a bot... < 1470917335 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470917868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shikhin shellokhin. gamemanj would like very much for you to not do anything malevolent towards their person hth < 1470917868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470917883 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thank you! < 1470918217 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNDERWEAR CHICKEN < 1470918365 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, wisdom is so wise! < 1470918613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470918618 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470918886 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470920142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470920165 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it knows all the house and wise. < 1470920462 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily wisdom.pdf typesetting (error???) found: <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1470920462 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470921481 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:582d:1f01:e258:8575 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470924460 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470924998 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470925707 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470925819 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470926495 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470926850 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470927165 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470927502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49112&oldid=44712 5* 0386.146.9.60 5* (+129) 10Added online interpreters < 1470928924 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470930889 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470933194 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470933585 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h131.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470934007 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470934028 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470934200 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470935130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49113&oldid=49112 5* 0386.146.9.60 5* (+1084) 10Added new features < 1470935815 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470935874 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470936664 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1470937017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49114&oldid=49075 5* 03Weux082690 5* (+46) 10Undo revision 49075 by [[Special:Contributions/Weux082690|Weux082690]] ([[User talk:Weux082690|talk]]) < 1470937034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49115&oldid=49114 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-46) 10Undo revision 49114 by [[Special:Contributions/Weux082690|Weux082690]] ([[User talk:Weux082690|talk]]) < 1470937076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49116&oldid=49115 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-1) 10Undo revision 49074 by [[Special:Contributions/Weux082690|Weux082690]] ([[User talk:Weux082690|talk]]) < 1470937288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Black14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49117&oldid=49116 5* 03Weux082690 5* (-3076) 10/* Computational class */ < 1470938081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Polyglot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49118&oldid=40601 5* 0391.244.87.202 5* (+51) 10 < 1470938733 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish fish oreos? what has become of the thing once called man? < 1470939016 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day we stray further from god's light < 1470939414 0 :aloril_!?@? NICK :aloril < 1470941498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470941553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I wish there was a way to temporarily forget 100% of my Star Wars knowledge (down to the basic premise) and watch the whole series anew < 1470941566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See how it is < 1470941608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my parents showed me Star Wars too early (even by their own admission; I was 6, my mom had cancer, they were running out of distractions), so I don't remember the end of Empire. < 1470941901 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You are my High Priest? < 1470942013 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470942069 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1470942114 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: Did the @tell not work...? < 1470942136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, then, to reiterate, < 1470942153 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you please not kill me? < 1470942160 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pleaassee? < 1470942176 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It did work. I'm afraid I can't promise not to kill you. < 1470942202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gulps
< 1470942327 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470943055 0 :baordog_!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470943240 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470944445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upon close examination of the 2011 release of Star Wars- specifically the controversial Han/Greedo confrontation sequence in the Mos Eisley Cantina scene- I've decide that, while Greedo technically shot first, Han's timing was close enough that the meaning is preserved (the way things go down, he was waiting for Greedo to fire; you can't fire back that quickly if you aren't specifically planning to. We can interpret Han waiting to shoot < 1470944445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :second as not a matter of ethics and a code of honor, but a matter of if-he-fires-the-first-shot-I'm-not-legally-liable) < 1470944495 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Han knew Greedo will shoot either way < 1470944590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but it's less legally messy if Greedo fires the first shot < 1470944607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, Han is a smuggler, but Greedo is a bounty hunter < 1470944631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greedo's job is illegal and obvious- there's no way to get around it. If there isn't a dead body, you didn't do your job < 1470944642 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: or a prisoner < 1470944703 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1470944710 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Greedo certainly knows how to deal with murder charges- it's part of his job description- but Han, as a generally non-violent criminal, prefers to be legally safe when he does have to kill someone < 1470944966 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470945432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470945919 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470946994 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1470947812 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:4c63:6cd4:c567:a16c JOIN :#esoteric < 1470947976 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470948000 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h148.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1470948294 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470948363 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470948526 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, does anyone know cloudatcost? < 1470948585 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just bought a server and i'm setting it up and i'm wondering if you can change your mind on the config once it's installed < 1470948654 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :faq says you can change os at any time < 1470948658 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that solves it < 1470948660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks guys < 1470948759 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470948859 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1470948952 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i appreciate it < 1470949369 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:4c63:6cd4:c567:a16c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470950102 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8836:1532:a133:449b JOIN :#esoteric < 1470950177 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :< shikhin> nortti: You are my High Priest? ← indeed. don't you remember? < 1470950649 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone actually try that lwan thing? < 1470950660 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna try it < 1470950662 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for arin.ga < 1470950679 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it gonna be painful? < 1470950703 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lwan.ws/ this thing < 1470952441 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8836:1532:a133:449b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470952776 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470952876 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:395c:4dd9:e64:5aa7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470954190 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the word "frustrum" < 1470954383 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: it confines and directs frustration? < 1470954658 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470954771 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:395c:4dd9:e64:5aa7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470954818 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No HTTP/2? So retro. < 1470955140 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really need it < 1470955152 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for arin.ga < 1470955167 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i said that already < 1470955507 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470956266 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470956282 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1470956335 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470956416 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470957384 0 :moon_!?@? NICK :javascript < 1470957396 0 :javascript!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1470957673 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470957684 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470957685 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 112200Z 21009G18KT 15SM FEW050 BKN250 31/20 A2990 RMK CU1CI6 CU TR SLP126 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1470957720 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470957746 0 :baordog!~bob@static-173-56-120-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470957892 0 :baordog_!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470958054 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107080406 < 1470958057 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.say $ticks < 1470958061 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ticks < 1470958063 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :): < 1470958065 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107091171 < 1470958066 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107092062 < 1470958067 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107092640 < 1470958067 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :107093078 < 1470958076 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wrong channel < 1470958077 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1470958098 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_! < 1470958102 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1470958287 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1470958291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 10h 30m 25s ago: wisdom.pdf typesetting (error???) found: <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1470958314 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: gamellomanj. trying to update the PDF? :D < 1470958676 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren]| < 1470958676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"\[oren]|" (line 1, column 9): < 1470958676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input < 1470958676 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom) < 1470958692 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote [oren] < 1470958692 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OlegFacts says: Oleg's latest project is re-writing Emacs... in the type system. < 1470958707 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote [[]oren[]] < 1470958707 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. You speak an infinite deal of nothing. < 1470958715 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren\] < 1470958715 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Where did you learn to type? < 1470958719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oren < 1470958719 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly. < 1470958722 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles lambdabot
< 1470958757 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1470958757 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ｚ < 1470958757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly. < 1470958759 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote !@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/ < 1470958759 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. stty: unknown mode: doofus < 1470958768 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote quote < 1470958768 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: shachaf jokes are what the quotes section of HWN is for. though lately there have been not as many :[ cmccann: Hey, there wasn't a single shachaf quote in the last HWN! Leave me alone. There were two cmccann quotes. < 1470958782 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren]| < 1470958782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"\[oren]|" (line 1, column 9): < 1470958782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input < 1470958782 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom) < 1470958786 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote \[oren] < 1470958786 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. The more you drive -- the dumber you get. < 1470958791 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote !@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/| < 1470958791 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"!@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/|" (line 1, column 24): < 1470958792 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input < 1470958792 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom) < 1470958797 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the | < 1470958798 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ｂｙ < 1470958798 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. I don't think I can be your friend on Facebook anymore. < 1470958811 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that b is suspicious hth < 1470958813 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote moon < 1470958813 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmead says: Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week < 1470958816 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote moon < 1470958816 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrisdone says: “monads are like a finger pointing away to the moon. *smack* don't look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory…” < 1470958821 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ｂｙ < 1470958822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1470958822 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote y < 1470958822 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mjard says: hey mjard at 4'3" and 400 lbs, your height-weight ratio should make you pretty close to spherical?! / that's how I roll < 1470958828 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong bot < 1470958855 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[s]thats sad, a wrong bot situation. sad[/s] lol < 1470958939 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1470958963 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470960067 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1470960074 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*munch*! < 1470960078 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quinthellopia!) < 1470961802 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1470961819 0 :testing1234!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470962425 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1470962578 0 :baordog!~bob@cpe-24-193-94-165.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1470962718 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1470962845 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470962845 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 112300Z 22004G16KT 15SM FEW050TCU BKN250 31/20 A2989 RMK TCU1CI7 TCU TR SLP121 DENSITY ALT 1900FT < 1470962892 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a rain dance. «Awéye! Mouille!»
< 1470963822 0 :testing1234!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1470963836 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470964313 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1470964336 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1470964337 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 120000Z 25002KT 15SM FEW040CB FEW160 BKN250 29/20 A2988 RMK CB1AC1CI7 CB TR AC TR CB TOP SE SLP119 DENSITY ALT 1800FT < 1470964360 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dons pompoms and dances some more
< 1470965535 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1470965597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:MiniStringFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49119 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+175) 10Created page with "I believe this should be a joke language, since it seems to be on par with [[Deadfish]] ~~~~" < 1470965756 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish ain't no joke! < 1470965803 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one make somebody else join an IRC chännel? can we track their IP down, remote into their machine, install and launch a bootstrapped client that automatically joins them here? < 1470965844 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's called a botnet < 1470965876 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercahello. right. < 1470965940 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: STILL NO FUNGOT! I AM FEELING DISPOSSESSED! EMOTIONS ARE FLOODING OVER ME! WELL, NOT QUITE FLOODING, JUST HUMIDIFYING ME! METAPHORICALLY! LIKE, YOU KNOW, ASTRAL AURA DAMPENING, DUDE! < 1470965975 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hellorcah? allorcah? alercahello?) < 1470966047 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1470966047 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 112354Z 23012G20KT 190V250 10SM FEW050 BKN230 32/24 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP137 T03170239 10356 20317 53004 < 1470966052 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too hot for fungot. < 1470966057 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that rhymes. < 1470966076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although doesn't make much sense otherwise, since fungot's not *here*. < 1470966116 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. you're in Boston now? < 1470966130 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1470966137 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thizzie! < 1470966139 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just visiting. < 1470966141 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai! < 1470966141 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it might have been my primary hacking area anyways) < 1470966148 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Cambridge, actually. < 1470966166 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like it there? does Quincy Market still exist? < 1470966214 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't managed to see much of it yet, been mostly confined to the hotel-office axis. < 1470966222 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the hotel's across the street from the office. < 1470966237 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a free Saturday here though. < 1470966378 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1470966664 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1470966693 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h148.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1470967126 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386d:961a:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470968626 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DEMONIAC CHICKEN < 1470969561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1470970328 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1470970339 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally think my bot has a good sqrt of 2 answer < 1470970340 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.414213562373095048801688724209698078569671875376948073176679737990732478462107038850387 5343276415727350138462309122970249248361 < 1470970349 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats 128 digits < 1470970501 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a square of that number is 2 + 1.2487297240530495370686529703... * 10^-127, so it is probably accurate < 1470970821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49120&oldid=49111 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10deorr < 1470970828 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470971026 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1470971301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470971472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj ...you'd have thought one of those characters would have triggered a bot... <-- yes. but not in that order hth < 1470971472 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470971626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hilarious < 1470971628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :174) I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi < 1470971671 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1470972006 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making changes to my font so that e.g. ㎆ won't look exatly like MB < 1470972301 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470972870 0 :baordog!~bob@cpe-24-193-94-165.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470973993 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ㎆ < 1470973994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+3386 SQUARE MB] < 1470974174 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvuoxzqkfgfskyvm QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470974174 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1470974664 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1470974674 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp JOIN :#esoteric < 1470978577 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470979767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily i suspect gamemanj's "error" isn't one (those are all legal nick chars and, well, it's oren), although the original seems to have been expunged from HackEgo. < 1470979767 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470979922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep 'being hilarious' < 1470979931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470979935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep 'being hilarious' < 1470979937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470979942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoq quotes < 1470979943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hoq: not found < 1470979948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hog quotes < 1470979949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ addquote If we don\'t study the mistakes of the future we\'re doomed to repeat them for the first time :( \ addquote if someone can, they\'re in this chan \ addquote int-e: all right...ill try not to think about your mind. best of luck with it \ addquote AIUI, one of the senio < 1470979981 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | grep 'hilarious' < 1470979982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470979988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hog < 1470979989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1470980000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hog quotes | wc < 1470980001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1175 17667 112886 < 1470980024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep hilarious wisdom < 1470980034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1470980041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url quotes < 1470980042 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/quotes < 1470980112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily oops, never mind, it's weirdly formatted otherwise, so grep doesn't find it < 1470980112 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470980135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote h.*i.*l.*a.*r.*i.*o.*u.*s < 1470980136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 20) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset s < 1470980162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm something tells me that's too easy to match :P < 1470980171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1224 < 1470980172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1470980232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily given this, you might want to double check hth < 1470980232 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1470982033 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1470982844 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan what happened i missed it < 1470982980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on afterthought, i think what happened was gamemanj looked at 1224 in the wisdom.pdf and didn't realize it was supposed to look that weird. < 1470983010 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1470983015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i blathered because i cannot manage to read to the end of the logs. < 1470983022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before talking) < 1470983042 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this seems to be a recurring issue with you < 1470983224 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres an interesting priblem for you: if you have twenty items and can sort five of them at a time, what is the smallest number of five-item sorts needed to do the job and what sequence of sorts will do it? < 1470983620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/interesting/too complicated/ < 1470983689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n// < 1470983748 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "how many" part is easy enough. the sequence is tricky < 1470986500 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ddfd:bb38:57e6:db61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470988114 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:ddfd:bb38:57e6:db61 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470988330 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:580c:53fa:fa6e:aaa1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470990887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1470990962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weird thing about my headphones is that it feels like one of the earpieces is completely silent < 1470990970 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 9 is a lower bound, and you're suggesting that it's tight? < 1470990990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, due to clever positioning of everything I listen to, it sounds like the noise that is coming from the right one is /inside/ my head < 1470991020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1470991087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1470992464 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1470993541 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c168:2130:fede:5318 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1470994261 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5837:4a1a:b115:4019 JOIN :#esoteric < 1470994615 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a database with super low memory footprint? < 1470994620 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need advanced features < 1470994737 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should keep as little data as possible in memory and store the rest on disk < 1470994794 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :features i need are literally only to set a value for a given key, and to retrieve a value based on its key < 1470994812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fancy sql is needed < 1470994936 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :values are memory blobs of varying size, keys are 6 character alphanumeric strings < 1470994977 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i can write this thing myself < 1470995427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1470996494 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1470996916 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1470997066 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1470998883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49121&oldid=49113 5* 0386.146.9.60 5* (-3) 10/* Date */ < 1470999631 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471000012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471000519 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471001358 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471002612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471002618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1471002679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1471002776 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1471002825 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471003141 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@cpc92876-cmbg18-2-0-cust618.5-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1471004101 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471004265 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1471004265 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 48m 18s ago: i suspect gamemanj's "error" isn't one (those are all legal nick chars and, well, it's oren), although the original seems to have been expunged from HackEgo. < 1471004266 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 42m 33s ago: oops, never mind, it's weirdly formatted otherwise, so grep doesn't find it < 1471004266 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 40m 33s ago: given this, you might want to double check hth < 1471004300 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Client Quit < 1471004342 0 :kragniz1!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471004621 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471004916 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CUTOUT CHICKEN < 1471004970 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1471004999 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: dbm's modern successors (GDBM & friends) would be the traditional choice for that sort of thing, though I don't know how they compare wrt. *super*-low memory footprint. < 1471005244 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471005367 0 :kragniz!?@? NICK :Guest66666 < 1471005375 0 :kragniz1!?@? NICK :kragniz < 1471005687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471005730 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471006404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Although I guess you could also just use a directory. < 1471006414 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm using atm < 1471006452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your suggestion < 1471006457 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :about dbm i mean < 1471006678 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside: traditional dbm tends to have fixed size limits for the values (in the "few kilobytes" ballpark), but at least GDBM doesn't. Although I've only really interfaced with these things via Perl's AnyDBM_File. < 1471006932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471007630 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:580c:53fa:fa6e:aaa1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471008598 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471008724 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471009000 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471009023 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471009311 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471009492 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471010836 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471011516 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.133.192 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471011759 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471012127 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.airguitarworldchampionships.com/ next week < 1471012145 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in 2 weeks < 1471012286 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471012325 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :air guitar.. that's the one in Oulu, I think? < 1471012342 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1471012588 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471012864 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471013146 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471013392 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471014209 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471014374 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one bruteforce this? http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/89541/14676 < 1471014470 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471014517 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1471014577 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471014658 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: write a number of expressions with a few constants, bruteforce the constants for each expression? < 1471014685 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like (x ^ A) * B (and similarly for other expressions of x involving up to two constants) < 1471014710 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they come up with xor and multiply? < 1471014730 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471014736 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tried all of them? < 1471014791 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it's what I would do < 1471014835 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really explained < 1471014861 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make a comment and ask them to elaborate on how the expression was bruteforced < 1471014889 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i run out of comments long ago < 1471014916 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think finding ^ and * to use that for sorting is reasonable < 1471014947 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 values out of 2^8 is reasonable < 1471014984 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be able to do that for practically any set of 12 strings that are different enough < 1471015353 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471015744 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.217.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471016785 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471018813 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next version of my font will include playing cards < 1471018834 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I wanted to do more astral plane stuff < 1471018936 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🂡 < 1471019028 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, what if we had a computer that had playing cards instead of bytes, and five card "words" < 1471019068 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur drunk < 1471019089 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, mever mind that. suppose a computer stored its state as a deck of cards. How big is that state, in bits? < 1471019111 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471019114 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log2(factorial(52)) < 1471019115 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘log2’ < 1471019115 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘log’ (imported from Prelude)Not in scope: ‘factorial’ < 1471019187 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> add(log([1 .. 52]))/log(2) < 1471019188 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘add’ < 1471019188 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1471019188 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘and’ (imported from Data.List), ‘odd’ (imported from Prelude) < 1471019200 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(log([1 .. 52]))/log(2) < 1471019202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1471019202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M73354184593098767806440’ < 1471019202 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1471019220 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(log([1.0 .. 52.0]))/log(2.0) < 1471019221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1471019221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M54011832658531067726463’ < 1471019221 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1471019228 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(log([1 .. 52]))/log(2.0) < 1471019229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1471019229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M47258435328389861236473’ < 1471019229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1471019261 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map(log,[1 .. 52])))/log(2.0) < 1471019262 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:24: parse error on input ‘)’ < 1471019273 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map(log,[1 .. 52]))/log(2.0) < 1471019274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘a0 -> b’ < 1471019274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘(Double -> Double, [Integer])’ < 1471019274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘map’, namely ‘(log, [1 .. 52])’ < 1471019284 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're just proving how drunk you are < 1471019290 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map(log [1 .. 52]))/log(2.0) < 1471019291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘a0 -> b’ with actual type ‘[Integer]’ < 1471019291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘log’, namely ‘[1 .. 52]’ < 1471019291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘map’, namely ‘(log [1 .. 52])’ < 1471019312 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm just trying to bruteforce haskell syntax again < 1471019363 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (map log [1 .. 52]) < 1471019365 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,0.6931471805599453,1.0986122886681098,1.3862943611198906,1.609437912434... < 1471019368 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like assistance? < 1471019376 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum(map log [1 .. 52]) < 1471019377 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 156.3608363030788 < 1471019399 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sum(map log [1 .. 52]))/(log 2) < 1471019401 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 225.5810031237028 < 1471019409 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you trying to calculate the log base 2 of a deck of cards? < 1471019439 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: to find out how many bits it takes to store a randomly ordered deck < 1471019470 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log (product [1..52])/log 2 < 1471019472 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 225.5810031237028 < 1471019496 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer being, not enough to make a FSM based on said state interesting enough < 1471019527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(double is large enough for the product) < 1471019571 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I would'nt have expected that. doubles are biiig < 1471019661 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so I just found out that f(a,b) calls f with the tuple a,b? < 1471019726 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the correct mehtod to bind f with its arguments within an expression is (f a b) like in lisp < 1471019797 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell seems more related to lisp than to algol < 1471019799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1048 < 1471019806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1048: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1471019977 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> product [1..12] < 1471019978 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 479001600 < 1471019986 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed Haskell may be less unrelated to lisp than to algol < 1471020039 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: doubles are exponential, remember < 1471020083 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can store really big and really small numbers. Just don't mix < 1471020091 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: o thanks < 1471020097 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hmm, so the double can represent it because 225 fits into a double's exponent field? < 1471020109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2^1023 :: Double, 2^1024 :: Double) < 1471020111 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (8.98846567431158e307,Infinity) < 1471020443 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471021576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nigel Farage grew a moustache! < 1471022133 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471022141 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what new plan does this moustachiod politician have?! < 1471022197 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not Nigel Farage < 1471022209 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's his evil doppleganger from another universe < 1471022266 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rigel Barrage < 1471022538 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471022660 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471023310 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471023927 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dingo Garage < 1471023984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49122&oldid=46125 5* 03CodeMaster111 5* (+235) 10 < 1471024014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49123&oldid=49122 5* 03CodeMaster111 5* (+2) 10 < 1471025612 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471025722 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471026075 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471026224 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1471027232 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471027492 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471027524 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471027657 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.217.49 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471027912 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my poll averaging shows a very different result from the poll averaging the media is using < 1471027960 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows turmp support holding steady at 41% about, while clinton declined over the lat week < 1471028001 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471028008 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is still ahead by 3-4% < 1471028132 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471028167 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poll averages are based on when the poll was released I think, while my poll averages are based on when the polls were conducted < 1471029282 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471029309 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471029461 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1471029532 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471029707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49124&oldid=49123 5* 03Fizzie 5* (-2) 10Fix those links (but the "Information" heading is still very vague) < 1471029838 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471030285 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471030467 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1471031534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471031930 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471032945 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471033317 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471034796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it's impossible to study the optimal Star Wars viewing order in an ethical way < 1471034817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because to compare episodic and release orders, you have to have someone actually watch it in episodic order < 1471034826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which no ethics committee would ever permit < 1471035070 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs ethics when you're a mad scientist < 1471035107 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also tell whoever wrote `? gamemanj that "Insert Name Here" was a joke and wasn't to be taken seriously < 1471035330 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow, I really don't get the SMBC favicon < 1471035351 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1471035356 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1471035406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have mad scientists < 1471035412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not sad scientists < 1471035418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or glad scientists < 1471035427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or bored, yet slightly aroused scientists < 1471035572 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: sounds like a perfect wisdom entry then < 1471035582 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a joke that could be taken seriously) < 1471036602 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I had to inquire about the meaning of "I. N." once before... it's not entirely obvious what it stands for, I think. < 1471036639 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I said "Insert Name Here", then... < 1471036642 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits gamemanj < 1471036644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471036649 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's not possible < 1471036661 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, whatever < 1471036721 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then whoever it was (I vaguely recall the name "oren", but I could be wrong) wrote "I. N. Here", presumably so it sounded like "the mad scientist in here" < 1471036770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``culprits *gamemanj* < 1471036771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `culprits: not found < 1471036776 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits *gamemanj* < 1471036777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471036794 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits *g*a*m*e*m*a*n*j* < 1471036796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471036800 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing??!? < 1471036861 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo *gamemanj* < 1471036861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*gamemanj* < 1471036876 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait. < 1471036879 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cwlprits gamemanj # presumably? < 1471036881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1471036882 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm an idiot < 1471036905 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, if you are reading this, sorry I got you confused with oerjan. < 1471036907 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u/w is a bit too subtle. < 1471036929 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, if you are reading this, well done, your joke made it into wisdom.pdf. < 1471036941 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives oerjan a biscuit
< 1471036964 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additional note. oerjan is apparently... NOT reading this. < 1471036974 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might, later < 1471036981 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan well done, your joke made it into wisdom.pdf. < 1471036981 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471036989 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now he definitely will. < 1471036993 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/16.08.12 < 1471037018 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471037047 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what this "error" is about
< 1471037079 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what that "error" is about
< 1471037115 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471037127 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "wisdom.pdf error" I mentioned to boily < 1471037146 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1471037294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/Screenshot_2016-08-12_21-26-44.png < 1471037322 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the font isn't intentionally different, in any case < 1471037340 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : \item \verb!<{\[oren]|}>! \scalebox{1.2}[1]{zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious} < 1471037350 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the scalebox is intentional. < 1471037363 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok, you have the TeX source, TeX source trumps screenshot. < 1471037381 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, why it's intentional... < 1471037398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ｗｉｌｌ < 1471037399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1471037412 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see. < 1471037447 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :New question: why on the planet would anyone choose to write that way... < 1471037478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it fits better with kanji < 1471037488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiragana etc. < 1471037499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ｗ < 1471037499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FF57 FULLWIDTH LATIN SMALL LETTER W] < 1471037530 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not seeing how it fits better... < 1471037544 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I guess it makes them aligned with character cells? < 1471037596 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not 100% sure. I'm used to narrow characters, not square ones. < 1471038487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? os < 1471038488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Os is the accusative plural of us. Also a municipality in Norway. < 1471038497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...plural of us? < 1471038521 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc32:ff9e:e53d:e13f JOIN :#esoteric < 1471038572 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471038626 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471038630 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for groups of groups < 1471038684 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Os was defined by the committee of people interested in shutting up engineers to define the status on P = NP by simply abstracting it so conversation did not matter even if it is true or false < 1471038723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1471038727 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things invented by the committee of people interested in shutting up engineers: Pi < 1471038731 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bracket is a terrible way to handle sports < 1471038731 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471038752 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use a better one! < 1471038800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, if we're assuming that, given 4 teams A, B, C, D where A plays B to yield J and C plays D to yield K, then J plays K to yield V < 1471038841 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471038845 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If A is better than (>) B and C > D, then V > D < 1471038870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we're using that logic (which is obviously flawed due to rock-paper-scissors-style games) < 1471038893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there is a MUCH more efficient system < 1471038923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We put the teams in an order in a 1-dimensional list (presumably either at random or based on previous metrics) < 1471038943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We call one team L, and it is initially the first team in the list < 1471038956 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove the first team in the list < 1471038994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, repeating until the list is null, pop a team and play it against L. The winner is saved as L and the loser is discarded < 1471039013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once the list is null, L is the overall victor of the tournament < 1471039078 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471039086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Get it? < 1471039166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(essentially, if we don't require that the participating teams be partially ordered- which we clearly don't due to bracket tournaments- then we can do this MUCH more efficiently) < 1471039491 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which team do you pop? < 1471039497 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The team at the top of the list? < 1471039506 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this means all teams have to play against L. < 1471039521 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until L changes, at least. < 1471039533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Andrew Melrose14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49125 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+265) 10About Andrew Melrose < 1471039545 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill_%28game%29 < 1471039557 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the one hand, this means a minimal number of matches are played - on the other, can this be parallelized? < 1471039601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bracket plays the same number of games... it *is* the parallelized version < 1471039634 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :every game eliminates one player or team after all, so you need n-1 games to get from n to 1. < 1471039776 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bonus points if you find the connection to binary trees, and the number of their leafs and internal nodes) < 1471040033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yes < 1471040038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Exactly < 1471040065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't think it can < 1471040088 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so basically, your system is a step backwards unless you only have one playfield. < 1471040097 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the secondary issue of wear levelling. < 1471040106 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"L" will get tired over time. < 1471040108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't think that the bracket plays less games... < 1471040109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? < 1471040126 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the defeater of L, this will be their first game. < 1471040146 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bracket doesn't play less games, but it doesn't play more either because each bracket eliminates a team. < 1471040151 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yeah, but since when has real-world stuff mattered to the NFL or FIFA or the NBA < 1471040175 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This system plays n-1 games, where n is the number of teams... < 1471040178 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bracket plays... < 1471040219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a bracket... the winning team must play all the way to the bottom... but there are less steps... < 1471040225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the proper strategy is MATH < 1471040239 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about it this way. < 1471040243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we have 8 teams, then 7 games are played in a season < 1471040250 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 4 teams, A, B, C, D. < 1471040253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It'd be easiest with an example, I think < 1471040264 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brackets would be, as an example, [[A,B],[C,D]] < 1471040274 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A and B fight, C and D fight in parallel. < 1471040285 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result of these two is A* and B*. < 1471040292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a bracket... each of the 8 teams is paired with another, so 4 games are played in the first round... then 2 in the next... then the finals... so 7 < 1471040293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471040295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1471040297 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A* and B* are equally worn out. < 1471040313 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You then have [A*, B*], and the game is resolved. < 1471040322 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This takes 3 battles. < 1471040332 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your system, we start with [A, B], as per usual. < 1471040340 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the worst case, A wins. < 1471040349 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is because then they go on, but worn down, < 1471040354 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while C is "fresh". < 1471040368 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then [A-, C] happens ('-' because A is now worn down and C isn't) < 1471040373 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If A still continues, < 1471040378 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[A--, D] happens... < 1471040390 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus who wins is highly order-dependant. < 1471040407 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way, 3 games are played. < 1471040407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true < 1471040420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But brackets are still broken because of non-transitive winning < 1471040444 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose. It's less broken than sending a worn out football team against a completely fresh one, though. < 1471040452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Also, I think we assume that there's time between games < 1471040473 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we eliminate the possibility of team morale and team weardown, then yes, the "list" approach is the best. < 1471040485 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though it cannot be parallelized as such without changing it intrinsically.) < 1471040497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is, unless you can parallelize, but you can't because all games have to be shown < 1471040522 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you play multiple bracket games at once, then your ratings go down because you can't watch multiple games simultaneously) < 1471041244 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471041499 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471041530 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471041560 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471041575 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471041844 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471041852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471042081 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471042550 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471042635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471043108 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471043135 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471043214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have been found guilty of conspiring to solicit the incitement of attempted cheque fraud. The penalty is death." -- a real sentence that could technically said by a judge under US law, assuming that certain laws are interpreted in an uncommon (but still acceptable) way < 1471043287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because conspiring to commit a crime, soliciting a crime, inciting a crime, and attempting a crime are all the same level as the crime (so paying a hitman is still a felony. Attempts may be treated less badly, but they're still felonies) < 1471043293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheque fraud is a felony < 1471043338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And under the Felony-Murder rule, if you kill someone (whether or not you intend to) in the process of committing a crime, that is counted as premeditated murder (though the common interpretation requires that the crime be violent- but it isn't shared by everyone) < 1471043387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if, by conspiring to solicit the incitement of attempted cheque fraud, a person dies (in this case, we're assuming it's by the cheque fraud, not by the conspiring), you can be held liable < 1471043871 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471043905 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471043969 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@spiritofcontradiction.eu QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1471043976 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471044064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1471044074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :England and Wales abolished Larceny as a crime < 1471044352 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc32:ff9e:e53d:e13f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471044482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aggravated cheque fraud? < 1471045352 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471045406 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471045916 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471046128 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1471046128 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1471046146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471046275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471046275 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 2h 34m 53s ago: well done, your joke made it into wisdom.pdf. < 1471046299 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am confused. did it bypass HackEgo? < 1471046337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, i may have to file a DMCA hth < 1471046366 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. which joke? which bypass? which DMCA? < 1471046375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alsello < 1471046385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: see the message < 1471046515 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't remember if he has seen the message...
< 1471046542 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i got right above hth < 1471046590 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d5c6:41e5:5bd1:bd94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471046644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe gamemanj just observed it happening. in a quantum way. < 1471047576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think you're just proving how drunk you are <-- looks plausible < 1471047606 0 :testoren!4a0f3ba5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.15.59.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471047786 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :testostelloren! < 1471047807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats boily -----###
< 1471047868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1471047868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 8 < 1471047884 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets swatten
< 1471047886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1471047886 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 6 < 1471047892 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is lightly swatten
< 1471047915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1471048076 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471048463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : apparently the correct mehtod to bind f with its arguments within an expression is (f a b) like in lisp <-- well yeah, except the parentheses aren't always necessary. < 1471048504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4] < 1471048506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’ < 1471048506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’, < 1471048506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : imported from ‘Data.List’ at /tmp/mueval2145174... < 1471048513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471048516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1471048517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’ < 1471048517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’, < 1471048517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : imported from ‘Data.List’ at /home/lambda/.lambdabot/State/L.hs:99:1-16 < 1471048528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef < 1471048528 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1471048531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4] < 1471048532 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.8414709848078965,0.9092974268256817,-0.9899924966004454,-0.6536436208636119] < 1471048618 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \oren\ < 1471048619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: \ at end of pattern < 1471048628 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote '\oren\' < 1471048628 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471048633 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote '\oren\' < 1471048634 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: \ at end of pattern < 1471048647 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \\oren\ < 1471048647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: \ at end of pattern < 1471048649 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \\oren\\ < 1471048650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar < 1471048702 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I wish I knew the context for that < 1471048711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably KSP < 1471048727 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1262 < 1471048728 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1262) <\oren\> scientists can apparently research things even while rotating 30 times a minute < 1471048734 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471048779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure 1261 and 1262 are KSP < 1471048789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to recall the original < 1471049051 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote '\\oren\\' | sed -e 's/).*//' < 1471049052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257 \ 1260 \ 1261 \ 1262 \ 1266 < 1471049065 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1266 < 1471049065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1266) <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished < 1471049113 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote 'hppavilion' | sed -e 's/).*//' < 1471049114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1242 \ 1253 \ 1254 \ 1260 < 1471049122 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote '\\oren\\' < 1471049123 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar < 1471049128 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote 'hppavilion' < 1471049129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1242) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there \ 1253) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang \ 1254) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang < 1471049192 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1254 < 1471049193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1254) izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. < 1471049207 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1471049211 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.32496 < 1471049212 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1260 < 1471049213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane < 1471049214 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the joke on 1253? < 1471049230 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. we have a kenm quote? < 1471049234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...capitalization, maybe? < 1471049235 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kenm < 1471049235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471049246 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which pastequotes) < 1471049247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste < 1471049253 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not funny < 1471049267 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which allquotes) < 1471049268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes < 1471049296 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1471049324 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tricycle < 1471049325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1471049352 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the chrono trigger mode < 1471049382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 25 < 1471049383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25) pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1471049478 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure you can really incite an attempted crime. < 1471049493 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inciting someone to attempt to commit a crime is inciting them to commit that crime. < 1471049495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think you can < 1471049500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, true < 1471049525 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Unless you incite them with the full knowledge that they can't actually accomplish it < 1471049533 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:305a:50d3:b507:14fe:99a1:6de6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471049538 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think you have a point. < 1471049555 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of a stupid legal scenario I came up with one day. < 1471049626 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know quote 42's context < 1471049630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Continue < 1471049648 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is winter, and there is a pond which is frozen over. The ice on the pond is thin, and any reasonable person would know that the ice is thin and that it would be unacceptably dangerous to walk out onto the ice. < 1471049701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 42 < 1471049701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? < 1471049704 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a person who unreasonably believes that it would be safe to walk on the ice. < 1471049714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1471049742 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the person walks out onto the ice, and the ice breaks, plunging the person into the freezing cold water. < 1471049771 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the context is porbably quote 52 < 1471049776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 52 < 1471049777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :52) if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has < 1471049789 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this point, the person notices a branch which they had not seen before, which is lying on top of the ice. < 1471049800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: hardly. quotes are usually chronological and rarely that close in time. < 1471049813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1471049814 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person could grab onto the branch and use it to pull themself out of the ice. < 1471049816 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1471049828 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1471049828 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, you have been standing by the pond and you've witnessed all of this. < 1471049837 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For no reason, you grab the branch and pull it out of the person's reach. < 1471049845 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the point is that the context of both those quotes is japanese porn < 1471049852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, of course < 1471049865 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person is thus unable to escape from the ice, and freezes to death. < 1471049878 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the question is: have you murdered that person? < 1471049894 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1471049896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely < 1471049910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely. < 1471049933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barring extenuating circumstances, such as you pulling the branch out of their reach into the reach of someone else < 1471049949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this even constitutes manslaughter < 1471049964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just second-degree (unmeditated) murder < 1471050001 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471050048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I am completely mystified. You have succeeded. < 1471050048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471050077 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you're out gathering firewood, and that branch is the only viable firewood in sight? < 1471050102 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're really hungry and you want to just get some firewood already so you can go home and eat as soon as possible? < 1471050176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that somehow reminds me of that shipwreck cannibalism case i saw on wikipedia. < 1471050214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the conclusion was basically, that killing someone is murder even if it will prevent everyone else from starving to death. < 1471050224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by english law iirc) < 1471050298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens < 1471050303 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there quotes that refer to future quotes? < 1471050331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there may be quotes added out of order, but i don't recall anything like that. < 1471050398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as the article says, "necessity is not a defence to a charge of murder". < 1471050407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 105 < 1471050408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :105) but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well < 1471050413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fucking fuck does that mean? < 1471050429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty relevant to tswett's original question. < 1471050433 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. you never met oklopol, didn't you? < 1471050455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a clear case of oklopol, that. < 1471050459 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:305a:50d3:b507:14fe:99a1:6de6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471050465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think I was online with em once < 1471050492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may have met one of his rare recent alternate nick visits. < 1471050574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Quick, say something that references a future quote < 1471050616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote time < 1471050616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective \ 59) i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program \ 86) insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 109) < 1471050636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote time[^s] < 1471050637 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :86) insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 145) catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 246) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O A small bene < 1471050671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote time travel < 1471050672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :863) i don't even know anything about feather and i'm getting sick of the time travel jokes \ 894) you can define Feather as "Smalltalk done right" if you want to confuse people into wondering why that would involve time travel stuff and all that < 1471050704 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: best way to delinearize time is to invoke fungot. < 1471050704 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: gauche is obviously broken then. you're the artist, or you could catch the exception < 1471050748 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can fungot invoke me? < 1471050749 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i didn't imply ' bitwise' from ' /usr/ ports/ net/ openbsd, bsd/ os, look at the metadata and use it pervasively throughout the curricula, but also blurred vision < 1471050764 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, my vision's perfectly fine hth < 1471050765 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: got new mail: http://lists.r6rs.org/ pipermail/ python-list/ 2003-october/ 186473.html google search < 1471050767 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much must one use IRC before they start dreaming in terminal... < 1471050799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It appears the answer is yes < 1471050817 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, I still have perfectly clear vision hthth < 1471050820 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592652582646125206037179644022371557877983160126149695135327918621058849781011234089 2609570395550671346460285442982415593446 < 1471050826 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a good approximation < 1471050893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 118 < 1471050893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :118) OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime < 1471050903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ Relevant to what I've been thinking < 1471050976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 122 < 1471050977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :122) pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" < 1471050982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What mode was that!? < 1471050986 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^mode < 1471051003 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1471051003 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1471051010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1471051010 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1471051022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches < 1471051022 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) < 1471051029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style oots < 1471051029 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick) < 1471051038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fisher < 1471051038 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) < 1471051042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1471051046 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Ahoy < 1471051046 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes i'm like every time a plane would fly over we have a computer < 1471051130 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1471051130 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1471051133 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1471051194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm guessing ct, it's an old style that looks like that. < 1471051211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1471051212 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1471051215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1471051221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: beep < 1471051221 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but, we are far outnumbered! me saw! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1471051230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although usually with more exclamation points than question marks < 1471051233 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38ef:e384:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471051241 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of ct, I had my first scan ever happen to me the other week. too bad I forgot about asking if I could keep a copy of the data :/ < 1471051257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: scan? < 1471051280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( he had to have his head examined ) < 1471051291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, CAT < 1471051355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how's the sword stopping going? < 1471051356 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1471051362 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38ef:e384:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471051435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hope it's not too serious < 1471051469 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471051562 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just had recurring headaches and dizziness. they scanned me just to make sure there was nothing wrong (there's effectively nothing), and prescribed me enough tylenols for the next three generations. < 1471051579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1471051600 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1471051654 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to be worried about. eat more proteins, drink water, acetaminophen and wait a month. < 1471051865 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, just to be sure, no hypochondriacs in these here fine chännel, eh? < 1471052317 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471052333 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes moonythedwarf_ in the duplicate bits
< 1471052392 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471052408 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471052743 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471052873 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471052900 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471052927 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471053118 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471053583 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:d5c6:41e5:5bd1:bd94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471053624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm sure my chondriac is very hypo, i think i can feel it aching hth < 1471053635 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using my new, better method, I made a polling average of the election < 1471053646 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.htm < 1471053715 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.c.htm < 1471053719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.txt.htm < 1471054103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj also tell whoever wrote `? gamemanj that "Insert Name Here" was a joke and wasn't to be taken seriously <-- your point twh? < 1471054103 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471054136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: finally i got to the explanatory part of the logs. < 1471054308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj then whoever it was (I vaguely recall the name "oren", but I could be wrong) wrote "I. N. Here", presumably so it sounded like "the mad scientist in here" <-- i think that's overthinking it hth < 1471054308 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471054387 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a mad scientist, I'm only impersonating one. I am sane. < 1471054425 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when doing debug stuff with our PDF generation code, I have a nice logo for "Evil Mad Dentist Laboratory" to put in the headers.) < 1471054436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e the u/w is a bit too subtle. <-- you can still use wisdom/ although we might yell at you hth < 1471054436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471054502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is that a backronym of the actual one twh < 1471054616 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't retracronymify initialisms hth < 1471054732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :backronyms of initialisms lack yoghurt < 1471054741 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my mind drew a blank there) < 1471054773 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1471054781 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like yoghurt. a great dollop of it on your cereals in the morning is the best. < 1471054781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi' moon < 1471054788 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1471054872 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_ < 1471055024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gamemanj it's for groups of groups <-- now you're overthinking in the wrong direction hth < 1471055024 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471055650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! < 1471055652 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DUDE CHICKEN < 1471056291 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471056727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471056884 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471057244 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471057758 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened on july 24 < 1471057796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the DNC < 1471057805 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1471058558 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471058587 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471058597 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471059354 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a *lot* of instances of Trump being a public idiot starting about then. < 1471060363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* 10New user account < 1471060609 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.216.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471060623 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471060707 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@cpe-69-76-41-135.ma.res.rr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1471060707 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod JOIN :#esoteric < 1471060756 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ded < 1471060758 0 :B1ood6od!~hermes@unaffiliated/bloodgod QUIT :Client Quit < 1471060762 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel is ded < 1471060795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Kiwitrader14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49126 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+90) 10Created page with "Kiwitrader has written two esolangs: Topaz W-INTERCAL links: none now will update soon" < 1471060884 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel is VERY dead < 1471060987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very faux spammer nickname on that one < 1471061008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, BRAINS < 1471061031 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides the bodys
< 1471061039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The night of the living channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471062155 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471062340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Topaz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49127 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+823) 10Created page with "Topaz is an esoteric programming language created by ~~~~ its syntax is relatively simple: every program starts with main function declaration: main { ; code } endwi..." < 1471062677 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471062724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49128 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+626) 10Created page with "W-INTERCAL is a version of intercal made by ~~~~ It is recommended that novice programmers learn this rather than INTERCAL. Syntax: if you definitely want the interpreter t..." < 1471062741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49129&oldid=49128 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+2) 10 < 1471062987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471063024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game < 1471063027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knew? < 1471063048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (I want my wikiname to be ~~~~...) < 1471063071 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that explians why trump wnt down as well as clinton going up < 1471063106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's just the HackEgo link not doing the expansion for some reason. < 1471063116 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Thought bubble notation has crept its way into here. Or did it come from here. < 1471063139 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (I first saw it here) < 1471063186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( you people are missing spaces ) < 1471063186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: He criticized a Gold Star family < 1471063192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1471063197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARUKIRI < 1471063237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppuvilion[1] -----###
< 1471063260 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471063300 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ITYM harakiri < 1471063321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: It's japanese. Spelling is fungible. < 1471063360 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471063386 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :腹切り < 1471063422 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "Harukiri" would be "cutting spring". < 1471063430 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling is important. < 1471063446 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :春切り < 1471063449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1471063503 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While "harakiri" is, well, harakiri. Or seppuku. (腹切り, 切腹) < 1471063554 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gut cutting < 1471063588 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471063591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google chose a weird reading of 腹切り, i thought orin was making a pun on fungible. < 1471063614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. < 1471063852 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently its been a busy night here? < 1471063868 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything worth scrolling up for? < 1471064333 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a brief attempt to reimplement the voight-kampff test disguised as an ethical question < 1471064813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i linked to relevant precedent tsh < 1471064872 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471065310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tsh < 1471065312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471065335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tsh seems helpful < 1471065339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tsh': tsh seems helpful < 1471065355 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should help < 1471065362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know hth < 1471065378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the words of Jim from Darths & Droids: ooh, that's even better! < 1471065383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast selpqurtq < 1471065385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command \ wisdom/tsh//tsh seems helpful < 1471065397 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast sqelpqurtq < 1471065399 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tsh//tsh seems hurtful < 1471065401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1471065404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIES < 1471065426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should finish reading D&D < 1471065463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast sqeemsqoundsq < 1471065466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds hurtful < 1471065509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast skur.*korrendousk < 1471065511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds horrendous < 1471065563 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... why are you speaking alien to hackego, and why does he seem to understand you? < 1471065585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is an alien hth < 1471065613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hhgttg < 1471065614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhgttg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471065667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: skkntrisqastvsk hth < 1471065668 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it thhgttg < 1471065687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? h2g2 < 1471065688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h2g2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471065703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly, we may not have a wisdom for it? < 1471065712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1471065809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's ais523 who is an alien, i thought that was well established. < 1471065839 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one alien? < 1471065933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. the rest are zombies, artificial intelligences, disembodied ghosts on the internet or mutant carnivorous plants hth < 1471065954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may also be one dog, but we're not sure of it. < 1471065977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch? < 1471067175 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7078:18f0:3d90:d9c5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471068097 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7078:18f0:3d90:d9c5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471068195 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3ce0:2402:87cc:dc56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471068376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471068883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471070209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Blood is thicker than water, but have you /seen/ oil!?" < 1471070238 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have you seen concrete? < 1471070383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen neutronium? < 1471070390 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471070406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty thick hth < 1471071195 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is apostasy is not apostasy? < 1471071224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oerjan: Neither of those are liquids < 1471071237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :concrete is a solid and neutronium is a reality-breaker < 1471071241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody say "glass" < 1471071259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I will remove you lungs < 1471071267 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1471071356 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1471072455 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1471072516 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1471073497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: diamond, inside jupiter hth < 1471073512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That works < 1471073717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471074676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471074686 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen a superhero with the ability to combine other people < 1471074747 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would the do it? < 1471074989 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Not sure, but I'm sure it would be cool < 1471075020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another interesting superpower: Sort of like Astral Projection, but with the added capability to then bring your body to you < 1471075270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, Probability manipulation is a fun power < 1471075955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people subscribe to the Fate view, which says that everything that ever happens happens because of some sort of orchestrated cosmic symphony < 1471075976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says everything happens for a reason (which is pleasant), but we don't have free will (which makes life hard) < 1471076027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people say that the way the universe goes is up for us to decide, which says that we choose our own paths and those who do well did so because they earned it and a guilty criminal could have /not/ done it, so it's their fault. < 1471076044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free will is inspiring... but it also requires that nothing happen for a reason, which makes it sad when bad things happen < 1471076049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take the more practical approach < 1471076100 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The human brain is largely random and impossible to predict, but ultimately has no meaningful form of free will because some actions are determinant and others are random, but none are controlled by some glorious, unified higher entity < 1471076115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which gives the ultimate view that humans don't have free will AND it's all meaningless < 1471076117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yay? < 1471078143 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471080397 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471080731 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471082189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471083754 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-eikyaysbtcrfswaz JOIN :#esoteric < 1471086876 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h150.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471087083 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471087323 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h150.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471089859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471089938 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471092191 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3ce0:2402:87cc:dc56 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471092849 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b49b:1045:68b6:cf9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471093161 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b49b:1045:68b6:cf9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471093678 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49130 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+2127) 10Created Unfuck page < 1471093953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49131&oldid=49120 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+13) 10Added Unfuck to Language list < 1471093968 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471094237 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471094238 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471095284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49132&oldid=49129 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+764) 10 < 1471095585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49133&oldid=49132 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+17454) 10 < 1471095691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49134&oldid=49133 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+88) 10 < 1471095782 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471095852 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471096038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49135&oldid=49131 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (+29) 10Added topaz and WINTERCAL < 1471097960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49136&oldid=49130 5* 03Andrew Melrose 5* (+57) 10Edit: Clarified a sentence concerning good coding practice. < 1471098570 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Kiwitrader14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49137&oldid=49126 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (-23) 10 < 1471099871 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471099990 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471100982 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471101012 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471102055 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471102359 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471102374 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471104868 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iotymjghxfkfzirc JOIN :#esoteric < 1471105625 0 :testoren!4a0f3ba5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.15.59.165 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1471106813 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471106839 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471109366 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this CaC VM is getting worse and worse... HackEgo is so lucky in comparison < 1471109548 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what vm? < 1471109562 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what problems are you experiencing? < 1471109570 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got one a couple of days ago < 1471109583 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 3 < 1471109601 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yesterday i couldn't access it and had to reboot from the control panel < 1471109912 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it's just getting write errors on the storage device... < 1471109941 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...periodically causing the FS to be remounted read-only, sometimes locking the VM up completely < 1471110033 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's one of the 512MB/10GB $35/lifetime VMs.) < 1471110046 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a $70 < 1471110061 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for $21 because discounts < 1471110068 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually deleted the thing and set it up again but it didn't improve... all I got out of it was a changed IP ;) < 1471110137 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long have you been using it? < 1471110149 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I paid $17.50... january 2015 < 1471110201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that doesn't sound too bad < 1471110204 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, since my attitude was that I'd get it to see how bad it would be I wasn't unduly disappointed < 1471110228 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has been misbehaving for most of that time. < 1471110233 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :most? < 1471110237 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a year? < 1471110245 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1471110250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I wrote < 1471110254 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been like that for ages < 1471110259 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471110272 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use it for? < 1471110282 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just curious about the type of load etc < 1471110320 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471110330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm currently only using it for weechat in 2 channels but i was planning to move arin.ga over there < 1471110333 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtually no load. It has a homepage http://64.137.252.151/ and mroman's Burlesque shell. < 1471110346 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471110352 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish to report a bug < 1471110357 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture is all blurry < 1471110359 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls fix < 1471110367 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's a feature. < 1471110373 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken by design < 1471110410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked hard on that picture, for probably an hour in gimp! Don't dis it!!!1 < 1471110430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these things always take longer than they should ;-) ) < 1471110470 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about that burlesque shell? < 1471110478 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see it < 1471110488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google burlesque shell < 1471110494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yorehab.com/burlesque-shell-seat-purple/ < 1471110494 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: » Burlesque Shell Seat Purple YoWorld Price Guide and YoWorld Fan Site < 1471110496 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just curious) < 1471110499 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's not it) < 1471110526 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google brulesque programming language < 1471110532 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque < 1471110541 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, close enough. < 1471110578 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :from there you can find http://mroman.ch/burlesque/ which has a link to the shell < 1471110598 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I don't give a direct link because that may change) < 1471110629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming cac gave you an ip? < 1471110645 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did < 1471110661 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they'll give me another one if I decide to set up the VM from scratch again < 1471110680 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what you mean < 1471110684 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1471110694 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they changed it without notice < 1471110716 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be interesting, but no, they have not done that yet < 1471110780 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471110851 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I have a Debian system on there... it's just conceivable that it doesn't agree with VMware. < 1471110862 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't really believe it. < 1471110918 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could, perhaps, drop the errors=remount-ro flag from the fstab < 1471110972 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just for fun) < 1471111212 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got ubuntu and then used this https://github.com/drizzt/vps2arch < 1471111361 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471111766 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471113649 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1471114054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49138&oldid=49134 5* 03Kiwitrader 5* (-23) 10 < 1471114656 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1471116795 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117027 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117031 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1471117031 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117132 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8469:f7da:88a3:89c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471117431 0 :uberBear!~uberBear@ip186.net2-170.n37.ru QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471117893 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:8469:f7da:88a3:89c1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471118070 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471118144 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471118338 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471118406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471119415 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471119499 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471120217 0 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seconds < 1471125435 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471126133 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471126455 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h135.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471127385 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471127548 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471128113 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471128469 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471129350 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471129407 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471129577 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471129898 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My roommate just sent http://imgur.com/KTVaVW1 to me, and I had a flashback to one of those 0 == 1 "proofs" < 1471129994 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there's quite clearly a five++ in there. < 1471130051 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of. < 1471130051 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471130074 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471130091 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471130134 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: maybe you should think on that before making such a bold claim < 1471130145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is helping!
< 1471130160 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Which bold claim? < 1471130191 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you just told lambdabot to relay to oerjan < 1471130202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. It's what I'm good at. < 1471130272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471130293 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget to comment my code. My art... do not ask about my art. My physical strength is pretty low - I can't pull myself up onto a ledge if it's higher than my shoulders (probably if it's higher than my elbows, I need to actually write these things down.) My memory is also lacking, as suggested in that last comment. < 1471130297 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course I'm attracted to the circularity. < 1471130313 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, tell me, int-e, what am I to be proud of but my overthinking? < 1471130324 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: is that js? what even does incrementing an object mean? < 1471130358 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same as setting it to NaN, usually < 1471130363 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The "object" is actually Number: 5, and I'm guessing there's implicit conversion. < 1471130365 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess its a native number object containing the value five? < 1471130366 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is. It coerces it to an int in that case < 1471130377 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: oh you could start small. there's the remarkable feat of your continued existence < 1471130390 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION picks up a rock.
< 1471130400 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rock, you should be proud of yourself. < 1471130405 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For your continued existence. < 1471130409 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION places the rock back down.
< 1471130413 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that makes sense. so five++ means five=five.intValue()+1 < 1471130423 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why pyhton doesnt ++ < 1471130426 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1471130450 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3881:69cb:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471130508 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then setting properties on it coerces it back into Number? < 1471130523 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or no < 1471130532 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just silemtly fails < 1471130536 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1471130536 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, the coercion is in place < 1471130539 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ... < 1471130555 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes from Number(5) to an int 5 < 1471130565 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, int 6, I guess < 1471130577 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i meant setting the wtf of int 6 < 1471130585 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, int isn't an object in JS < 1471130592 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt even give an error < 1471130607 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no integer type in JavaScript, only floating point < 1471130616 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thx < 1471130623 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :js is so weird < 1471130626 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I forgot about that. What a nightmare < 1471130631 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in many cases is treated as an integer, and some implementations may even store them as integers too to increase speed < 1471130683 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, bitwise operations will treat the numbers as signed 32-bit integers and output a signed 32-bit integer too < 1471130752 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: if i ran that code and then did Number(5).wtf would it say potato < 1471130833 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, actually. < 1471130890 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, though < 1471130931 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. so each wrapped number gets its own instance? < 1471130935 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would be equivalent to new Number(5).wtf, so it would give nothing < 1471130937 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471130998 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :some languages intern cache number objects for small integers. java, for instance < 1471131011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to save memory < 1471131047 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, they are essentially read-only objects if you dont do some tricky reflection < 1471131065 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so theres no way to screw them up < 1471131502 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471131711 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iotymjghxfkfzirc QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471131814 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgjfsdsvtyklntfp JOIN :#esoteric < 1471132345 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471132624 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h135.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471133155 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471133713 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471134176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471135226 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471135793 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471136167 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1471136257 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471136271 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471136271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 132342Z 04010G30KT 280V060 4SM R06L/3000VP6000FT/D R06R/3500VP6000FT/D RA BR FEW005 BKN024 OVC040 20/19 A2975 RMK SF2SC5NS1 PRESFR SLP076 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1471136287 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN! < 1471136303 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1471136325 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do with a saturday night? < 1471136330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia. hellonolongerboilyng. < 1471136348 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1471136349 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 132354Z 06008KT 7SM OVC007 21/19 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP129 60000 T02060189 10228 20200 55004 < 1471136356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1471136356 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 132350Z 31005KT 9999 FEW026 SCT052 10/07 Q1011 RMK WIND 670FT 28011KT < 1471136357 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was surprisingly humane today. < 1471136368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471136368 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 1h 45m 17s ago: Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of. < 1471136373 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't confirm that. it could be boiling rain < 1471136387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i looked at the temperature hth < 1471136402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: found you < 1471136406 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boo! < 1471136418 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was hoping to scare oerjan
< 1471136421 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the thermometer could be inside a box, protected from the boiling water? < 1471136446 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to check again in a few minutes to be sure < 1471136512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think you're confusing this with the alderaan forecast hth < 1471136532 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! nolongerboily? < 1471136558 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj. did you know that oerjan is unscarable hth < 1471136561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily_ng_ hth < 1471136570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyng??? < 1471136579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um is unscarable the same as unscareable < 1471136583 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily-ng. A more refined boily for a better age. < 1471136585 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! eating is a good activity. < 1471136607 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Brought to you by the developers of aircrack-ng, presumably.) < 1471136641 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whats for supper? < 1471136645 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION munches on edible stuff. *munch* *munch* *munch*
< 1471136652 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"edible stuff" < 1471136663 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this stuff green biscuits? < 1471136678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :leftovers from lunch. rice, beef, tofu and zucchini, bean sprouts and carrots. < 1471136683 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1471136691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the only green part is zucchinal hth < 1471136704 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a bag of hot wings flavored pretzels. so...yeah < 1471136708 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what? < 1471136720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is neither unscareable nor unscarable, but if you have to test either i prefer the former hth hth
< 1471136721 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still eating ^^ < 1471136727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471136753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wiktionary doesn't think scarable exists. < 1471136758 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscarable doesn't sound like a real word < 1471136765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym unscarrable < 1471136784 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscrabble. < 1471136788 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscorable < 1471136830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's it! that's the ticket! but i probably would pwn you at english scrabble, and you'd wipe the floor with me in french < 1471136851 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471136858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also fail to find any real uses of "scarable" because they're swamped by either dictionary SEO or typos < 1471136877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or perhaps no one's ever used it) < 1471136899 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an #esoteric hapax legemenon! < 1471136903 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471136916 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: An un-scarab. < 1471136945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, i guess the real word would be spelt unscarrable. checking... < 1471136962 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unscrabble. < 1471136980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like scrabble, but you have to make anything that isn't a word in any language in the universe. < 1471136991 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it excessively difficult. < 1471137014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarrable gives at least one genuine hit, although wiktionary still doesn't know it. < 1471137057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the hit was "un-scarrable" < 1471137069 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's easy. you just invent an alphabet on the spot, assign to them sounds that are extremely difficult to make (e.g. the sound of a baby eating a puppy as they are torn about by tidal forces inside a black hole), and string them together randomly < 1471137205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You also have to map these to English letters for reasons which should hopefully be obvious if you've ever seen a Scrabble set. < 1471137274 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: whoever said unscrabble involved a scrabble set? < 1471137280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : itym unscarrable <-- damn i did it again. < 1471137284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I guess nobody. < 1471137293 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you need is a chess set. < 1471137300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471137316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: that's it! that's the ticket! but i probably would pwn you at english scrabble, and you'd wipe the floor with me in french <-- norwegian hth < 1471137354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *legomenon. < 1471137362 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: both of us cheating with a dictionary takes all the fun out of it < 1471137383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only knows that word because of narbonic.
< 1471137405 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I play Scrabble I always do both player will use the Scrabble dictionary < 1471137420 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .oO(it seems to take oerjan about 10 seconds per line to logread)
< 1471137427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time limits could help too though < 1471137428 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a nodejs sandbox for my bot, and its pretty strong, i was wondering if you guys would help me find some exploits so i can try to patch them < 1471137440 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .oO( speech bubbles! cool! )
< 1471137479 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a thought bubble. we don't need speech bubbles since we aren't being drawn into boxes on the chat, so every other text is assumed to be speech < 1471137516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks zzo38 could design a chess game isomorphic to scrabble. probably.
< 1471137569 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone could... < 1471137575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my backscroll reading may not always be chronological hth < 1471137592 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you seem to comment on it in chronological order tho < 1471137608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1471137656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i mean is that sometimes, i only go back because i realize i had been skipping stuff. < 1471137680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: You would have to be careful if you want to make a Node.js sandbox properly secure. One thing to do is to ensure that the prototype of the sandbox object is null, and don't put any other objects from the outside into the sandbox. < 1471137715 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But this can make it difficult to do anything meaningful, so you figure it out.....) < 1471137727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone's ever made an irc client that uses speech bubbles
< 1471137751 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft has < 1471137752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Microsoft Comic Chat might? I don't know though < 1471137775 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: See ya later, [INSERT_NAME_HERE] < 1471137784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep looks like it < 1471137796 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471137802 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashes with common IRC servers (e.g. freenode), but puckipedia has a proxy to work around it < 1471137858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1471137923 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if possibly the V8 debugging interface might be usable for making a Node.js sandbox < 1471137955 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing an extension in C++ might also help, if you know how to do that < 1471138233 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I don't know if it works, because I have not tried, is to create function outside of the sandbox, and then a function inside the sandbox wraps it (perhaps create a function that takes a function and returns a function, and call it) and passes only primitives between the inside and outside. < 1471138371 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471138382 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running sandboxed scripts in a separate process is also something that has been suggested, so you can also try that. < 1471138719 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471138748 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471139258 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is still camped in here eh < 1471139287 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives boily a tent
< 1471139621 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wraps himself in the tent
< 1471140073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that was gamemanj's intent < 1471140118 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't mind. < 1471140141 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off to night coma! < 1471140149 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GARTERBELT CHICKEN < 1471140206 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily and his chickens < 1471140449 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one was particularly attractive < 1471140473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at quintopia suspiciously
< 1471140496 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also looks at quintopia suspiciously
< 1471140517 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*writes "if oerjan looks at someone suspiciously, there's usually a reason." into book*) < 1471140528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :truthy < 1471140572 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe quintopia was referring to night coma < 1471140598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dubious hth < 1471140664 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's an obvious solution to that < 1471140681 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: define "this one" in your message, "this one was particularly attractive" < 1471140762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The supercogitating channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471140906 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unattractive chickens don't wear garterbelts hth < 1471141113 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION underlines the line about oerjan's suspicions usually being correct
< 1471141136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then adds an additional note in the margin: "c.KTW/SJ-night"
< 1471141297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at gamemanj's note suspiciously
< 1471141666 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the fastest way to find the smallest power of 2 greater than x? < 1471141762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you're implementing it in. < 1471141763 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, would it be faster to try right shift it until i get zero? or it with a left-shifted 1 til zero? god help if its actually do a log? < 1471141776 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say cython < 1471141779 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471141787 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shift will do it. If it does it fast, is another thing entirely. < 1471141799 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically the "fastest" implementation would be dependent on value size. < 1471141823 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had 256 values, you may - or may not - find that an array is faster than doing the calculations. < 1471141824 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently python has a .bit_length() < 1471141825 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1471141851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we already establish on a previous occasion that processors have specific instructions for this hth < 1471141881 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know why, it's a rare - and not that slow - operation... < 1471141884 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you didn't invite me???? < 1471141927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well it may be useful in code that needs to be particularly fast < 1471141942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why would someone need that operation? < 1471141953 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471141962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: to implement bigints, say < 1471141980 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please look at information relating to TAVERN VM and tell me if it is any good and other comment such as if there is any mistake or unclear. Do you think that 32K cells (each cell stores a signed 16-bit number) is sufficient for the program code for a text adventure game and other arbitrary read-only data? (RAM, vocabulary, and most text, would be stored in separate address spaces) < 1471141980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potentially. On the other hand, how do you feed in the number to this operation? < 1471141984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to know what's the first bit you need to start working at < 1471142020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Worst case scenario, you can cheat the system, especially if the program code can read from text/vocab memory. < 1471142034 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Like, write a brainfuck interpreter in program memory, < 1471142055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then put your *actual program* into a different address space. < 1471142092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program code cannot read anything from text or vocab memory; it can read and write RAM, although RAM is also limited to 32K cells. < 1471142196 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding an extension that would act like Z-machine's DIROUT 3 would allow reading from text memory, although another possible extension would just to allow reading text memory directly, which would be simpler and faster. < 1471142246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Text memory is also limited to 32K cells, although the text is packed, and the text memory is also bankswitched, so you can store a lot of data in there.) < 1471142349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding a feature code and instruction opcode for TXT@ would allow to read the text memory; we can add this idea into the bug tracker or wiki. < 1471142364 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does text packing work? my best guess was always just "limiting text to a narrow range of ascii so that some bits can be discarded from each character" < 1471142402 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at the documentation if you want to know its working. < 1471142516 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vocabulary packing does limit text to a narrow range of ASCII though; the VOCAB.BIN lump maps vocabulary words to signed 16-bit numbers (any word not listed has a value of zero). < 1471142753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471143684 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471143946 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471144384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471145045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any known people have a finite Erdos-Shusaku-Morley-Bacon number? < 1471145078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are shusaku and morley again < 1471145088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Go and Chess < 1471145139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, would the existence of a Go-playing AI that plays against Shusaku make anyone able to have a Shusaku number of 1?) < 1471145252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do that when he's been dead over a century twh < 1471145341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is this another one of those voight-kampff test questions < 1471145376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: See, I was afraid someone would say that < 1471145381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1471145417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1471145437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1471145442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery twh < 1471145444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1471145532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471145537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1286) I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471145825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask myname there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ... <-- does that include spelling it as Kartoffel/innen twh < 1471145825 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471145877 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with overthinking < 1471145907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1471145911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1471145932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append gamemanj He will overthink everything except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471145938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gamemanj': gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471145955 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471145977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gamemanj sb exb, exb < 1471145979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1471145985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gamemanj//sb exb, exb < 1471145990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gamemanj//gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything, except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471146001 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...go on, explain what you are doing < 1471146013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am amending your wisdom entry hth < 1471146042 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting method of adding one comma... < 1471146129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the alternative would be copy/pasting < 1471146148 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of wondering how "sb exb, exb" works < 1471146164 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's actually an esoteric language, like a cyclic tag system or something < 1471146182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is that sed's s command allows almost any delimiter character, in this case b < 1471146208 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471146216 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets out his TODO list
< 1471146248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes "Send patch to maxpowa/Inumuta so that it interprets everything beginning with 's' as a replacement. This, of course, is simply a side effect of proper interpretation."
< 1471146262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1471146288 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font now has playing cards! < 1471146290 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🂠🂡🂢🂣🂤🂥🂦🂧🂨🂩🂪🂫🂬🂭🂮🂱🂲🂳🂴🂵🂶🂷🂸🂹🂺🂻🂼🂽🂾 < 1471146294 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🃁🃂🃃🃄🃅🃆🃇🃈🃉🃊🃋🃌🃍🃎🃏🃑🃒🃓🃔🃕🃖🃗🃘🃙🃚🃛🃜🃝🃞🃟 < 1471146300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!!!! < 1471146311 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🃑 < 1471146315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which card is this < 1471146321 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ace of clubs < 1471146337 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm not good with cards. < 1471146345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was what I meant to copy: 🂡 < 1471146373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: hm i guess i forgot to ask whether you want to be assumed male, but since you didn't protest i assume that's all right. < 1471146412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471146431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might be overthinking that.
< 1471146453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I try to catch myself when I make assumptions too (though if someone else uses a gender pronoun in reference to someone, I'll base any further communications on that) < 1471146464 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also added a bunch of those crazy Shift-JIS characters < 1471146523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋌㋍㋎㋏㎙㎚㎛㎜㎝㎞㎟ < 1471146523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎠㎡㎢㎣㎤㎥㎦㎧㎨㎩㎪㎫㎬㎭㎮㎯㎰㎱㎲㎳㎴㎵㎶㎷㎸㎹㎺㎻㎼㎽㎾㎿ < 1471146526 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏀㏁㏂㏃㏄㏅㏆㏇㏈㏉㏊㏋㏌㏍㏎㏏㏐㏑㏒㏓㏔㏕㏖㏗㏘㏙㏚㏛㏜㏝ < 1471146565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a idea of new kind of format of Magic: the Gathering cards. Select a block and play block constructed, but before the game starts add a Rochester draft and then sealed, the draft/sealed consisting entirely of cards whioch are not legal in the constructed block being played (banned cards may be included in the draft/sealed). < 1471146635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your constructed deck may include a 15-card sideboard. Whatever your constructed deck size is (not counting sideboard) is your minimum deck size (which may be reduced by conspiracies), and whatever your constructed sideboard includes is your minimum sideboard size. < 1471146667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly notices the "man" in gamemanj's nick
< 1471146712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play is then scored per-duel ante, with each card legal in the block worth 2 points, and other cards worth 1 point each, and the game worth 1 point. < 1471146753 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1471146818 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I just noticed that I drew ㎱ as rs instead of ns. I have no idea how that happened < 1471146883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conspiracies that are placed into the command zone at the beginning of the game do not count toward your minimum sideboard size. < 1471146907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Does your font editor allow out of bounds drawing? < 1471146913 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471146921 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it is clear. < 1471146947 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somtimes I have stray pixels in a character < 1471146987 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to finish my program that catches stray pixels < 1471147030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add additional conventional basic lands into your deck when creating it after draft/sealed or when altering the deck by exchanging cards with sideboard, but these extra lands will be lost if they are ever placed into the sideboard. < 1471147032 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471147042 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ㏒(2) < 1471147043 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘㏒’ < 1471147097 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒=log in ㏒(2) < 1471147098 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147128 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒=log; in ㏒(2) < 1471147130 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147166 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or is this let not the same as lisp let < 1471147230 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471147251 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how is lisp let < 1471147284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "㏒" == "log" < 1471147285 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1471147294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes it quite clear... < 1471147348 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒ = log in ㏒(2) < 1471147350 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147411 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in lisp you can make a temporary variable with the let function. but haskell doesn't seem to work like that < 1471147421 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471147495 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒ = 1 in ㏒ < 1471147496 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147510 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 1 in x < 1471147512 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471147526 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :que? < 1471147569 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㄋ = 1 in ㄋ < 1471147571 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471147574 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ㏒ b = log a / log b in (㏒2) 4 < 1471147576 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1471147603 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I see, it thinks ㏒ is a symbol? < 1471147612 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1471147612 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '㏒' < 1471147614 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherSymbol < 1471147623 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ㏒ < 1471147630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+33D2 SQUARE LOG \ UTF-8: e3 8f 92 UTF-16BE: 33d2 Decimal: ㏒ \ ㏒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 006C 006F 0067 < 1471147670 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that grow from square trees? < 1471147719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏊㏊㏊ < 1471147723 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but they cost a lot of money to buy < 1471147745 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋍ < 1471147748 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :£4,480... the price started going up after Minecraft became popular < 1471147775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: My last two messages may have been... complete and obvious lies.) < 1471147853 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⛉⛊⛋⛌ < 1471147910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ㏒ < 1471147921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0020 SPACE \ UTF-8: 20 UTF-16BE: 0020 Decimal: \ \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ \ U+33D2 SQUARE LOG \ UTF-8: e3 8f 92 UTF-16BE: 33d2 Decimal: ㏒ \ ㏒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 006C 006F 0067 < 1471147960 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That symbol is a pain to write < 1471147978 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎯ < 1471148035 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎨ < 1471148088 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎜㋌ < 1471148107 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :millimetres of mercury < 1471148119 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird unit < 1471148159 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for why the japanese wanted SI units to fit into a kanji space... I have no goddamn clue < 1471148202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: the ghc compiler defers to the unicode standard for categorizing non-ascii characters. which left a few rare usages breaking when the unicode standard changed how it treats ... superscript numbers, i think it was. < 1471148218 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can approximate Japanese typesetting rules with little more than half and full width characters. < 1471148225 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 𐌹𐌾𐌶 x = log x in 𐌹𐌾𐌶 10 < 1471148226 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.302585092994046 < 1471148272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '²' < 1471148274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherNumber < 1471148279 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: wow you used some characters that aren't in my font! wow! < 1471148293 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, that an SI unit fits 1 kanji cell, especially when doing vertical writing. < 1471148304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did they fix that for 8.0 < 1471148316 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Gothic < 1471148332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x² = 4 in x² < 1471148334 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1471148362 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471148412 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ▼ b = log a / log b in (▼ 10) 100 < 1471148414 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1471148416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe it was combining letter chars in general < 1471148425 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Is this one in your font? < 1471148435 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471148444 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, a downward triangle < 1471148523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I see, for vertical writing < 1471148554 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would by annoying to have si units be sideways within a vertical text < 1471148576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's already annoying when it happens with names) < 1471148579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ́ < 1471148579 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 204 129 < 1471148585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ́ < 1471148589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 769 < 1471148615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory $ last " ́" < 1471148616 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NonSpacingMark < 1471148648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ 'a'++drop 1 " ́" < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘[Char]’ with actual type ‘Char’ < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘(++)’, namely ‘'a'’ < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely ‘'a' ++ drop 1 " \769"’ < 1471148653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471148657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ 'a':drop 1 " ́" < 1471148659 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : á < 1471148671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let á = 1 in á < 1471148672 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:6: lexical error at character '\769' < 1471148676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471148681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still broken, that < 1471148771 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the one about playing chess with dead men a voight-kampff question? no. is the question about text packing a voight-kampff question? definitely not. is the presentation of the concept of an attractive chicken in a garterbelt a secret voight-kampff test? definitely! < 1471148957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thx tdh < 1471149020 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:453c:e1f6:f69b:8544 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471149469 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh firefox is being a vixen < 1471149477 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, would that chicken pass the voight-kampff test? < 1471149485 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not working for me the way I want < 1471149504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is working wrong and what way do you want to work? < 1471149511 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :question, what's a voight-kampff test? < 1471149528 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't showing my font, it's showing some other font < 1471149545 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I think they will tell you in Wikipedia; I looked it up it redirect to a different file it tell you what it means. < 1471149644 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, It's showing some of the characters in courier new < 1471149683 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Are these characters always in pairs? < 1471149706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is coppro/scshunt twh < 1471149754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Then use a different program to test the font < 1471149781 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing to try is to try making a SVG document and see if it will display using the proper font if you do that. < 1471149817 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm <-- this displays ok for me in chrome, but in firefox < 1471149887 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/ARGH.PNG <-- I see this < 1471149944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: It shows up in the correct Oren-Approved International Font for me < 1471149965 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there possibility to download bitmap font? < 1471149977 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in firefox? < 1471149981 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: red dragon mahjong tile is broken I think < 1471149981 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In firefox. < 1471149990 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox version 48.0, < 1471149991 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also joker playing card < 1471149993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Arch Linux, < 1471150026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't think there are any more details to state. < 1471150055 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. so maybe my install of firefox is broken < 1471150065 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(windows 7) < 1471150087 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. Maybe it just doesn't like webfonts. < 1471150112 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well I have the same version of firefox < 1471150145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go searching through about:settings. < 1471150162 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it's "about:config". < 1471150212 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfx.downloadable_fonts < 1471150214 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5837:4a1a:b115:4019 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471150240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(useful elements: .disable_cache, .enabled, .woff2.enabled) < 1471150298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfx.missing_fonts.notify is also a potentially useful setting. < 1471150745 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finagling with the css... < 1471150796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reveals that chrome exhibits the same behaviour if I reorder the fonts to font-family: monospace, neoletters < 1471150829 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but firefox appears to be taking the system monospace font first, even if the css says otherwise < 1471150859 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Infocom/runic area of UTCE still has ten unused slots, so these may be filled with additional common runes not yet included, as well as possibly the Verne runes. < 1471150888 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Did you try using the font in a SVG document instead of a HTML document and see if it works better? < 1471150929 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:64ab:739e:eb54:5df6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471150960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if it works or not, but you could try it) < 1471150974 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471151292 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think the problem is in firefox, not the font < 1471151308 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works fine in Chrome, and in this terminal session as well < 1471151501 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly something is wrong with my css < 1471151522 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1471151540 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it worked in linux < 1471151545 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wtf < 1471151679 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471151801 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...what's the best way to take a very long list of strings, and find the longest one that matches at position 0 of another list? I have two thoughts, but would like to hear other thoughts. < 1471151810 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of another string < 1471151909 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471151920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Does the very long list of strings change often, or does the other string change often? < 1471151947 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long list is persistent. the other string changes < 1471151971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps pre-sort the long list so that the longer strings are first. That way, when a string matches, you can immediately return. < 1471151993 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471152015 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was one of my thoughts < 1471152070 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471152074 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still requires a linear search through the whole thing every time, and, for each thing in the list, a linear time string comparison < 1471152081 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's definitely slow as balls < 1471152089 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i use a trie y/n < 1471152090 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try turning the list of strings into a tree. < 1471152134 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471152257 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i should use a DAFSA < 1471152391 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471152396 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1471152528 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a DAFSA is probs the way to go. But compiling one from a list will be a pain. I hope someone has done this before and published it... < 1471152549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey nice https://pypi.python.org/pypi/DAWG/0.7.1 < 1471153773 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SO GOOD < 1471153793 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471153817 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471153838 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471153885 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471154098 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might take up more memory if converted to a tree, unless some compact representation of the tree in memory is used which can also be processed easily; one idea is to allow each node to contain multiple characters instead of necessarily only one per node. < 1471154244 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Three of the Powerline characters you have are things I intended already to include in the Texas Instruments block for UTCE (the TI-92 has some of them in its character set), so I may include the others also. < 1471154799 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471154892 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471157194 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471157223 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471158225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471158264 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im complacent and irritable because Im trying to live a great life for god. im seeing visions, ive astral projected and I want to learn everything on the internet. I have a plan to study all subjects online but I am stirr crazy wait on the time I can pursue this objective. I have no friends because of what i believe in and im lonelier than a kid with nothing to do < 1471158274 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im desperate. what should i do, INTERNET? < 1471158292 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome almightynsx < 1471158299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1471158345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dafuq? < 1471158355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Have you been diagnosed with anything? < 1471158355 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFUQ YOU < 1471158358 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Well, to start with there is no god. < 1471158359 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471158363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1471158381 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been diagnosed with schizophrenia < 1471158404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right < 1471158430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everyone is atheist, but if you are seeing stuff that is not there then it is hallucinations, regardless of how good or bad it is, it is still hallucinations I think. < 1471158442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with http://timecube.2enp.com/ < 1471158518 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I consider myself as panendeist) < 1471158532 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the visions i have I believe are real < 1471158575 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no reason to believe they are real, and have reason to believe that your senses are fallible. < 1471158587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone's senses can be fallible. < 1471158589 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being in esoteric channel you should all know the visions can be real when practiced right in the context of mysicism or new age spirituality < 1471158610 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how can i prove they are not fallible < 1471158619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but it is still hallucination, and still you cannot know for sure < 1471158621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Have you tried reading time cube? < 1471158633 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't, because I can demonstrate human senses are fallible. < 1471158638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the thing; the fallibility of the senses is unfalsifiable < 1471158638 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seems boring < 1471158639 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: You can't; the best way is scientific method if possible, but even that is not perfect; only mathematics is perfect. < 1471158641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a channel for esoteric programming languages, not for esotericism. < 1471158662 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well, proving they're infallible is unfalsifiable. Proving they're fallible is trivial. :) < 1471158674 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought it was all esoteric topics < 1471158676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yep xD < 1471158703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Though, really, all esotericness would likely still be accepted < 1471158717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes pikhq is correct. (Of course we are not always on topic (often we are not), but still, we are not the one to know a lot about esotericism in this channel, so if you ask you are unlikely to get the answer you are looking for I think) < 1471158720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs are just what happen when your application of esotericism is in programming < 1471158742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have a question, the best thing to do is to ask. < 1471158744 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "Esotericism" tends to entail certain religious, mystic, or spiritual practices. < 1471158750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Also, learning "everything on the internet" is impossible < 1471158754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if, nobody knows the answers! < 1471158755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, really? < 1471158755 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Esoteric programming has little to do with that. < 1471158761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471158769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Esotericism was basically the same as surrealism < 1471158780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like Dali surrealism) < 1471158812 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it refers to "secret knowledge". < 1471158815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471158822 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a secret teaching for the occult < 1471158830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Here's a list of every website on the internet, which may be of use: http://www.internetlivestats.com/watch/websites/ < 1471158851 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so this isn't the channel for esoteric projection? or channelling projects? < 1471158856 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you can have a proper list of every website on the internet, and even if you do have it, it is not the entire internet anyways. < 1471158872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait < 1471158872 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're using "esoteric" in a vastly more literal sense, to say "intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people". < 1471158874 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It isn't, but if you have a question, ask anyways. Probably nobody knows, but how do you know until it is asked? < 1471158879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it isn't linky < 1471158883 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have develpoed a study plan to learn almost study on the internet < 1471158891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah < 1471158895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a start < 1471158895 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can apply esotericism to esoteric programming languages, though, I will be damned pleased. < 1471158898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless it is probably better to ask elsewhere if there is a better place to ask. < 1471158907 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: I suggest starting with formal logic, personally. < 1471158938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good idea < 1471158950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Learn formal logic; this is 100% the best place to start < 1471159058 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PART #esoteric : < 1471159073 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you all for your support' < 1471159079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formal logic is good, but how good it is, depend what you want to do. < 1471159146 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics is perfect, but to figure out how the laws of physics are working you must make the scientific experiment, and such experiment is not as perfect as mathematics. < 1471159341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many people in this channel is atheist, but what is the actual proportion (approximately)? < 1471159400 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. Probably much higher than average. < 1471159430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the average must be the average of something. Average of what? < 1471159441 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average in the population at large. < 1471159473 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All human population of the world or only of English speaking people or what? < 1471159525 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. I was figuring more of the IRC-using population, TBH. < 1471159531 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471159550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the IRC-using population also more likely to be atheist? < 1471159556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know what you mean now, I think. < 1471159562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know? < 1471159578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply from being nerdy < 1471159589 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that much is true. < 1471159669 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I do not consider myself atheist but I consider myself as panendeist, although since it is difficult to know exactly what such classifications are meaning and some people's classifications may consider my beliefs as atheist even though I don't quite think so. < 1471159674 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to socialize on facebook? < 1471159724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1471159742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Facebook < 1471159811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the impression facebook is popular here, either. (i don't have it.) < 1471159832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm friends on Facebook with all the #esoteric people who use Facebook. :P < 1471159953 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471160146 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471160503 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should to invent Unusenet it is same protocol NNTP like Usenet but the name is always start "un" optionally followed by a number, and then the dot, and then the rest of the name. If the number is specified then it specifies how to find the central server, for example if the name is "un2.net.example.aaa.bbbb" then the central server is "example.net". < 1471160577 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all add me on facebook almightynsx@yahoo.com < 1471160624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Facebook so I won't do that < 1471160649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Facebook added Gopher support would you use it? < 1471160752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1471160767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it take? < 1471160794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook is not useful to me. < 1471160828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you want to connect with friends and the world around you? < 1471160895 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but no one likes me because of the topics i am dealing with in my life < 1471160897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that just by talking to them, although in many cases I do not need to. < 1471160922 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new age spirituality, visions of god, learning everything on the internet < 1471160951 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As has been said before, you cannot "learn everything on the internet". < 1471160964 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can too < 1471160969 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ill prove that one day < 1471160973 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i do it < 1471161032 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way you try to parse that, it won't work even if you are success you will still fail. < 1471161046 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471161250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can find a book about such thing as new age spirituality, visions of god, but possibly you don't find? Then you must write a book. But of course book is not the only one, also computer, too. < 1471161351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are trying to ask other people how to interpret whatever hallucinations you are having, then I do not know how I could possibly answer such question, because I am not you. < 1471161480 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471161483 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advise < 1471161533 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to know advise on how to go about learning everything on the internet and if my visions are because im schizophrenic or because god loves me < 1471161630 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it is because schizophrenic (although I am not a doctor and do not know much of schizophrenia so I cannot say this properly), but maybe there can be possibility to be both? Or, they can be inspire you for such thing. < 1471161721 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the devil and talk to him audiably and i wonder why im not like the rest of the world < 1471161726 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why i see these things < 1471161761 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try asking a doctor and see if they know the answer. Possibly they don't, but I think it is worth a try. < 1471161792 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go to see my doctor in two days < 1471161797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471161797 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill ask then < 1471161806 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they dont know much about hullucinations < 1471161822 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone who does know. < 1471161893 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you cannot learning everything on the internet; there are many different protocols, port numbers, file formats, languages, passwords, encrypted data, and other stuff; and also temporal, which also makes it impossible. < 1471161920 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471161921 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard of opencourseware? < 1471161957 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I think you can learn some things from that < 1471161993 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to spend 5-10 years learning all the internet opencourseware < 1471162016 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose you can do that at least. < 1471162122 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if i combined all the sciences and learn them all i would know all science which in on is all conscience con=with science=knowledge < 1471162149 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that is impossible. < 1471162152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471162172 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, just if the word can be combine like such does not even make it possible. < 1471162258 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471162271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems it is how etymology of "conscience", but just because it is how etymology does not do. < 1471162283 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i would have a very good working knowledge of the universe, would you think? < 1471162324 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more you know, more you can know that you don't know. < 1471162356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The less you know, more you can know that you don't know. < 1471162432 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1471162434 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partially, but also if you know then it must be something you know. Even all law of physics and stuff all scientist even won't know perfectly! < 1471162444 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that i wont know all but i atleast will know alot < 1471162471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471162479 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the plan though? any advise on the idea of learning all opencourseware? < 1471162480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you would know more than if you don't study it at all. < 1471162494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is good to learn. < 1471162508 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im scared in going to die if i learn all that < 1471162513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how much is all opencourseware anyways though, so I cannot answer. < 1471162529 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone will die regardless; it is the matter of time. < 1471162601 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well im a christian a bigger question that ive pondered is i might go to hell for learning all of this. what do you say to that? < 1471162619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is irrelevant. < 1471162631 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also do not think that is how it is supposed to work anyways. < 1471162659 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I am not Christian) < 1471162670 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What denomination are you anyways though? < 1471162681 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non denom < 1471162706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471162785 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whys that important < 1471162826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see why you might expect to go to hell for learning all of this, mainly. < 1471162862 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you learn from it? < 1471162871 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any advise on that would be detrimental < 1471162940 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you are nondenominational Christian. I do not actually know a lot about such things anyways to answer such question, but if answer is posted, then it can help if anyone does know how to answer your question better based on that < 1471162963 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471163375 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the advise this is the best conversation ive had in awhile < 1471163474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes by hallucination can be inspiration of something, such as, I think Principia Discordia was written like that. < 1471163551 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when you are sleeping, can be dream and can be hallucination and that too can be inspiration of something, such as, I have seen a chess puzzle that was claimed to be invented in that way. < 1471163602 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live my dreams < 1471163632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471163645 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dream, remember them and believe w/e im dreaming about has very important implications to my life. i live and act this way in my dreams and believe they are real < 1471163730 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently i was dreaming of crossing railroad tracks while carrying something and a woman was chasing me to make me stop. then when i finally gave in to her my heart felt immensely great when i did that action in my dream i even woke up and started thinking and talking about it < 1471163756 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel my dreams are real some how < 1471165435 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471165443 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!boobies < 1471165450 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong room :/ < 1471168648 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:453c:e1f6:f69b:8544 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471170445 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Principia Discordia"... I've heard of it, and have a way to check against it's calendar via an extremely indirect method, should it matter, but I don't understand what it's "about". Is today Zaraday, or was that yesterday? < 1471170516 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh. It seems that the reference provider is not one, but two days out. Unfortunate.) < 1471171197 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, what is Zaraday... < 1471171431 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471171512 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471171843 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471173190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: SoundHound was finally useful to me. < 1471173484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundpooch < 1471175194 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471175236 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471175366 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471178899 0 :ni291187!~u931732@2a02:810d:12bf:ee84:11ab:e5ea:c8f9:7d8b JOIN :#esoteric < 1471178927 0 :ni291187!~u931732@2a02:810d:12bf:ee84:11ab:e5ea:c8f9:7d8b PART #esoteric : < 1471179548 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: A holyday named after the apostle Zarathud hth < 1471180000 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471180000 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471180415 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471181265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49139 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+1565) 10first version of page < 1471181301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49140&oldid=49139 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+63) 10added implementation link < 1471181547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49141&oldid=49140 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+519) 10added more information < 1471181683 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49142&oldid=49141 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+47) 10Added file extension info < 1471181738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Actuallyallama14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49143&oldid=47293 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+80) 10actual info! < 1471181910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49144&oldid=49142 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+136) 10 < 1471182398 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471183208 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183265 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471183313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth//Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1471183541 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth is not as crazy as busy beaver growth hth < 1471183589 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471183611 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluffy critters of the Canadian forest are fundamentally crazy. < 1471183678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as the FCCFFC theorem. < 1471184264 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471184287 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471184697 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471185585 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471185788 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471186493 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1471186875 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471186997 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I solved the problem with firefox by deleting firefox and installing a fresh copy < 1471187051 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf first, ask questions later < 1471187095 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you literally outfoxed it < 1471187105 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a version of "rm" which acts like those things from Stargate < 1471187125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot once to stun, twice to kill, three times... IDK what happens on three times, but it would probably remove all traces. < 1471187246 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called a recycle bin < 1471187320 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I used the recycle bin, acutally, since this is a windows 7 computer < 1471187363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could've just created a new profile < 1471187493 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1471187499 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try that < 1471189350 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, worked! < 1471190075 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471191250 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471191320 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471191321 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471193993 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FEMALE CHICKEN < 1471194776 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PART #esoteric : < 1471196824 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471198578 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471201005 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7014:5f89:22fd:b703 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471201879 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471202431 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471202473 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471202890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471203096 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arf_> isowner(from,(dat) => {try {client.say(dat[0], eval(dat[2]));} catch (er) {client.say(dat[1], er);}},(dat) => {client.say(dat[0],"Permission denied")},[to,from,mdata.rest]) < 1471203101 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i overdo it? < 1471203111 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/arf_>/ / < 1471203232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471204299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471204355 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7014:5f89:22fd:b703 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471204404 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have implemented the Discordian calendar in ifMUD too < 1471204429 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it uses the server's timezone, and does not include holidays other than St.Tib's day. < 1471204533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(St.Tib's day is a intercalary day) < 1471205195 0 :joinBot!~joinBot@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471205217 0 :joinBot!~joinBot@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471205531 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207065 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471207812 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207833 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207933 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:64ab:739e:eb54:5df6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471208066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471208654 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll note that if I ever go to ifMUD. < 1471208657 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c862:6357:bf9e:431 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471208703 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471209857 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471209898 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471210325 0 :juffree!~juffree@71.56.26.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471210714 0 :juffree!~juffree@71.56.26.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471211901 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :are turtle graphics strings considered esolangs in somesense? Specially if they started out as the result of a Lindenmeyer-system substitution? < 1471211965 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471212175 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you defined the "complete" language (defining the Lindenmeyer-system definition language, and the accepted turtle graphics results) as an esolang? < 1471213050 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgjfsdsvtyklntfp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1471213618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471215233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When human cloning is a thing, how will it fit into a family? < 1471215247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what's your clone's wife called? < 1471215272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A clone is genetically the same as a twin sibling (unless you modify their genes), but they can be several years younger < 1471215288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you might treat them as a brother/sister, making a clone's wife your sister-in-law < 1471215308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait...) < 1471215376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :52% of identical twins that have one gay member are both gay < 1471215379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that settles that < 1471215393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no all-powerful gay gene that singlehandedly determines orientation < 1471215451 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1471215466 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a source for that 52% < 1471215480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Crap, no < 1471215484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wikipedia xD < 1471215488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will check the citation < 1471215500 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what article < 1471215503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bailey JM, Pillard, RC (1991). "A Genetic Study of Male Sexual Orientation". Archives of General Psychiatry. 48 (12): 1089–96. doi:10.1001/archpsyc.1991.01810360053008. PMID 1845227. < 1471215527 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, 1991 < 1471215533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah < 1471215536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The study has been criticized for possible selection bias, in that gay twins are more likely to participate < 1471215544 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if a repeating study will,yield the same result < 1471215551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Good idea < 1471215567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 52% is still rather far away from ~100% < 1471215568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :52% sounds like way too high < 1471215580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: This is only when at least one is gay < 1471215599 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so‹ < 1471215623 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ypu count these as independent or close, it should be way less < 1471215623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: As in, if you identical twin is gay, the study finds that in 52% of cases, you're gay too < 1471215634 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understood < 1471215636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471215697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since identical twins' DNA is virtually identical, this casts /serious/ doubt on the idea of a "gay gene" < 1471215747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(keep in mind, I'm not saying that this means that- since being gay is the result of nurture- this changes anything about gay rights; just because it's not genetic doesn't mean it's invalid; but now we can't use the gay gene argument any more) < 1471215756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" being those of us who would < 1471215785 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, if it has _nothing_ to do with genes (which is what i'd assume) it should be way more towards the general percentage < 1471215825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes < 1471215859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But this is just debunking the typical interpretation of a "gay gene"- some sort of all-powerful gene that, when active, makes you gay in 100% of cases and when not present makes you straight < 1471215865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how this explains bisexuals, I don't know) < 1471215883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where, no matter how you're raised, the presence of such a gene will make you gay < 1471215901 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wikipedia article is this from < 1471215902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a related note < 1471215916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Twin_studies < 1471215928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably jumping to conclusions too fast < 1471215933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on a related note < 1471215980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that transgender...ness is the result of your mothers body giving too much or too little testosterone to a developing fetus, causing its body to develop incorrectly against its genes < 1471216006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure if this is true, and it probably isn't. But it might be. I don't know.) < 1471216026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this leads me to wondering if identical twins have ever developed where that happened to one but not the other < 1471216040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Causing identical twins of different genders < 1471216079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, a later study (2000) found results closer to the population average < 1471216103 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am wondering how many of those gay twins are attracted to each other < 1471216120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Let's not think about that < 1471216130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what number was it < 1471216134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4] < 1471216145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Probably 100% of them when they also have narcissistic personality disorder < 1471216161 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471216189 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2000 study < 1471216422 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471216756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Situs inversus is interesting < 1471216797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do americans with Situs inversus use their left had when pledging allegiance to the flag of the united states of america in life and in death? < 1471216913 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471216975 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471217352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471218707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471219259 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471220417 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORD < 1471220417 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORD 142251Z 12007KT 10SM SCT055 BKN250 28/18 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP161 T02830183 < 1471220433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1471220437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ORDing? < 1471220451 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1471220472 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the airport's pretty far from here. < 1471220495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a closer metar target. < 1471220525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you're already ORDed. < 1471220548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1471220549 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 142253Z 29013KT 10SM FEW010 FEW250 21/13 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP121 T02110133 < 1471220732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471220749 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471220750 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 142300Z 29017G25KT 30SM FEW035 BKN052 BKN250 23/17 A2993 RMK CU1SC6CI1 CU TR SLP138 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1471220769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KPHX < 1471220770 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHX 142251Z 20005KT 10SM FEW100 FEW150 41/12 A2978 RMK AO2 SLP063 T04060122 < 1471220772 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BREATHABLE WEATHER! COMFORT! < 1471220786 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. Phœnix is not livable at hth < 1471220802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it hth < 1471220870 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weather where you can cook steak in direct sunlight is too warm for me. < 1471220973 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. which is you favourite Coast? < 1471220985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like The Coast of Utopia. < 1471220986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1471221034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my coast can beat your coast anytime! nah! < 1471221052 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471221054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie lives on an island of width ~500km hth < 1471221061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all one big coast < 1471221266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221268 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory//To be theory is to be like a theorem, but inferior. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidity//Stupidity is created when people are too lazy to think correctly. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :json//JSON is JavaSyntax Or Nothing. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia//Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages. < 1471221273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :szoup//A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1471221321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lem < 1471221322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanisław Lem was a Polish logician who discovered the law of excluded middle. < 1471221329 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think I can really say about them American coasts, I've seen very little of them. < 1471221341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: When are you coming to MTV again? < 1471221343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :October? < 1471221350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1471221384 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in a place called "California Pizza Kitchen" now, does that count? < 1471221400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried Norwegian pizza? < 1471221451 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Norwegian pizza? with lutefisk? ) < 1471221473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have. < 1471221579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've been to Norway and I might've eaten pizza there, but I don't think there was anything particularly Norwegian about it. < 1471221595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been told that Norwegian pizza is the best in the world. < 1471221657 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been told that Chicago has some particular kind of pizza. < 1471221709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i https://twitter.com/TheFoodLab/status/761106613088325632 < 1471221861 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't know if that's quite it. < 1471221984 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1471221985 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i what is i,i < 1471222007 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget what is i,i :/ < 1471223476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471223484 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471223514 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471224095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is https://goo.gl/aegVpI horrifying? < 1471224102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, looks like it is < 1471224105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't click the link < 1471224115 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PART #esoteric : < 1471225655 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles hppavilion[1]
< 1471225667 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Why? < 1471225915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471225953 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1471225954 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clicked the link. < 1471225958 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1471225962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The king demands... puns! < 1471225981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I told you not to < 1471225983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not my fault < 1471225999 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what the content was until I realized that goo.gl displays the page you shorten for < 1471226041 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf. helloily. < 1471226151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange. The laptop switched timezones automajistically when I went to Cambridge (I didn't know it was going to do that), but now it's stuck in Eastern Daylight Time. < 1471226153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for registration emails is scow. < 1471226180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471226209 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you registrating at for? and s/scow/hth/. you're oerjan, not shachaf hth < 1471226223 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm registering at the iwc forum. after 10 years. < 1471226230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can send you a registration email if you like wth < 1471226257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided the email ever gets through, that is. < 1471226267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope hth < 1471226273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wth < 1471226274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471226315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn WTH is wavy toe hair. hth. < 1471226319 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wth': WTH is wavy toe hair. hth. < 1471226483 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have toe hair? < 1471226483 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1471226547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't tell me you are tired of life D: < 1471226547 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! something is reacting to the pendant. take out the contents are yours? < 1471226569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1471226569 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1471226573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1471226574 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1471226576 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471226581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Jafet < 1471226587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you read olist? < 1471226675 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read nolists. < 1471226798 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nolist < 1471226799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nolist: not found < 1471226905 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SHAKER CHICKEN < 1471226928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? busy beaver growth < 1471226929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy beaver growth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471227006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn busy beaver growth/No one can compute the length of a wisdom entry sufficient to explain busy beaver growth. < 1471227008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «busy beaver growth» < 1471227048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hth < 1471227088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superexponential growth < 1471227089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1471227096 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why do you no longer ever talk about that sword that alone could not stop? < 1471227096 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: must think of a way to the ocean palace? < 1471227096 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you hope that helped with? < 1471227099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits superexponential growth < 1471227101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1471227111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1471227115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: well you pointed out an obvious gap in wisdom hth < 1471227132 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :when? < 1471227133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your wisdom entry fills a much-needed gap hth < 1471227153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's because you don't understand superexponential growth < 1471227165 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: There's a transporter in the Zeal Palace, you just need to energize the pendant in the Mammon Machine. < 1471227165 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in the middle ages, sir slush!... you're gaspar, the guru of time! get moving! irreparable! please! pretty please! hmmm, two-legged, walking humanoid robot! incredible! < 1471227288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses the saucepan to add a much-needed gap to shachaf's teeth ===\__/
< 1471227431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the email is still not getting through :( i hope it hasn't been caught by a spam filter. < 1471227991 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was just not meant to be. < 1471228665 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471229278 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1471229290 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38 < 1471229605 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1471229771 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471229812 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By removing the need for would-be programmers to learn esoteric programming languages, the method has the potential to significantly expand the number of people engaged in programming --" < 1471229816 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=189457&org=NSF&from=news < 1471229839 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see we've been made obsolete. < 1471229883 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1471229885 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a discovery too < 1471229917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok they'll only be able to make fruit game apps hth < 1471230312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471231041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49145&oldid=49094 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+176) 10Added http://termbin.com/dubq implementation < 1471231091 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels so nice to actually be writing a bit of python code again. < 1471231108 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to work on an esolang! < 1471231651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471232759 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we should advocate our position with a textbook < 1471232771 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Computer Programming Made Difficult” < 1471232840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: What position and how can I help? < 1471232898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: The position of esoteric programming? < 1471232967 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know anything about packing strings? < 1471232980 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Total Grants: $9,006,930” — it seems that esoteric programming is being severely outfunded, too. < 1471233245 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘Computer Programming Made Difficult’ seems like an excellent name for an INTERCAL book. < 1471233785 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: About packing strings with what? You would have to be more specific, I think < 1471234094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :styrofoam hth < 1471234181 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using packing tape instead of packing strings < 1471234273 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think it work better < 1471234352 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The string theory channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471235735 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I watch the television I like to enable both the captions and the sound, although some people don't like the captions. (Someone said to me that she prefers the talking, but enabling the captions does not preclude also sound.) < 1471235807 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem that sometimes the people who wrote the caption does not even know what they said; I would hope that they should ask the people who made the TV show or who are talking on the TV show, so that they can write it on the caption! < 1471236021 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think of such thing as this? < 1471236136 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any TV caption code to tell it to not display some of the captions? I think it can be useful if you write caption for Jeopardy then you can write the clues also into the captions but write them concealed so that it the clue will not be doubled on the TV screen, but is still displayed if you print out the captions. < 1471236707 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471236801 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc33:ffdb:1ec1:31bb JOIN :#esoteric < 1471236951 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471237043 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471237155 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471237492 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471238732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471238787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl genius: i hope Dimo won't accidentally activate that thing < 1471239067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, who are those guys... < 1471239460 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: *Sometimes* the captions are being done live, so it's not feasible. < 1471239595 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3894:a173:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471240363 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I think it might for news shows maybe? < 1471241497 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471242951 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3894:a173:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471245030 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471247582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471248994 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471251305 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471251852 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471252593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471252953 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* 10New user account < 1471253117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fishstacks14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49146&oldid=40543 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+122) 10 < 1471253418 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fishstacks sounds useless < 1471253430 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically replace output with 4 pushes < 1471253572 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471255979 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471257112 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471257288 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471260005 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471260253 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc33:ffdb:1ec1:31bb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471260889 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471260963 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471262804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49147&oldid=49109 5* 03122.107.203.79 5* (+1092) 10/* Implementation */ < 1471262886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471262887 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471262889 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471262890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future//We know nothing about the future. < 1471262890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe//A universe is a poem in one stanza. < 1471262890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf//Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1471263005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the number 256 is easy to write. "iisss" < 1471263182 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471263202 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471263344 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1471263405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49148&oldid=49147 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+7) 10/* Implementation */ < 1471264115 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ADVERB CHICKEN < 1471264142 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471264242 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471264273 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471264288 0 :join1138!~join1138@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471264959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49149&oldid=47144 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+1411) 10/* C# */ < 1471265764 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471266292 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471266365 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471266682 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471267499 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471267672 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471267747 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471270670 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471272187 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471272381 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471272737 0 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1471281128 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471281651 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471281858 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.183 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471282281 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471282915 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qktivhllkgiorgcl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471283198 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nbhesmgkiwlkiihp JOIN :#esoteric < 1471285060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BusinessCat 5* 10New user account < 1471285102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49150&oldid=49135 5* 03BusinessCat 5* (+13) 10/* G */ < 1471285855 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471286341 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5197:fc90:ad80:d440 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471286792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471286847 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471286915 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5197:fc90:ad80:d440 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471287027 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471287173 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471287232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471287336 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1471287596 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471287603 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: helrod < 1471287805 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: o/ o/ < 1471287815 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm doing hacky weird things with SPARC64 boxes, don't mind me~ < 1471287835 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how're the rods < 1471287875 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: SPARC64? isnt that an variation MIPS RISC? Does it use OpenFirmware for booting? < 1471287951 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: yeah, openboot :) < 1471287993 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a coworker who was moving and had to get rid of them, so I was like "I'll take them!" -- we both drove about 8 hours, met half way, and he loaded up my car with them :P < 1471288003 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to be part of the Fedora SPARC buildsystem < 1471288062 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many SPARC cores you could fit on today chip-dies with todays 22nm feature size techniques < 1471288208 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 hour drive? Scow. < 1471288231 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I love that expansion cards (PCI or S-BUS) could have ROMs with minimal driver written in F-code < 1471288271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subtractpocalypse14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49151&oldid=47203 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+3252) 10Proof of Turing-completeness via Minsky Machine translation. < 1471288557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Companies can merge together to form a new, bigger company < 1471288572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is there ever a reason for companies to divide when they aren't compelled to? < 1471288598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what you mean by dividing. < 1471288646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have all sorts of reasons to split up a company into subsidiaries which are still part of the same bigger company. < 1471288656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can sell part of a company to someone < 1471288734 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you mean seperation and spin of? Happens all the time in the field of electronics component making < 1471288734 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goo... I mean, Alphabet did sort of something like splitting up. < 1471288762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: One company becomes two, fully independent companies, neither of which is incorporated into another or bought by a private individual... I guess < 1471288787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it ever take you embarrassingly long to get a pun? Like, The Count from Sesame Street < 1471288798 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1471288813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subtractpocalypse14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49152&oldid=49151 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+6) 10Added missing commas to the translation example. < 1471288815 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a4:d832:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471288837 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulproteus/List_of_puns_that_took_Asheesh_more_than_a_year_to_get < 1471288995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can ask who owns the two independent companies. < 1471289210 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp...that TCness proof turned out to be a lot simpler than anyone thought... < 1471289251 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tc < 1471289255 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471289257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tg < 1471289258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. < 1471289265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing-Charlie? < 1471289398 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing-Churchill < 1471289439 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471289477 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471289479 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what is meant by the "Delta is for D like in the NATO alphabet" thing < 1471289489 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471289502 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delta the airline was named after its origins cropdusting the mississippi river delta... < 1471289601 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471289912 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471289938 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you recognize this ∆ ? That is a delta < 1471290011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: yes, and it is the origin of Delta's logo. i get that. But the name preceded the logo. they said "we're called Delta, so we'll use a greek letter delta as our logo." < 1471290274 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the NATO phonetic alphabet is used when you have to have to spell something out or raise someone on radio via callsign < 1471290358 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i suspect Delta was chosen for the NATO alphabet based on it being a greek letter, rather than it being the name of an airline < 1471290372 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yebb < 1471291169 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:a0ae:5937:850d:61f6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471291299 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:41dd:9650:4e5a:d677 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471291352 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1471291357 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-eikyaysbtcrfswaz QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1471291402 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471292056 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471292467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471292471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd makes a good point < 1471292482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should measure self-driving cars' intelligence in horsepower < 1471292503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poochpower < 1471292884 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:41dd:9650:4e5a:d677 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471293323 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471293594 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:419d:be94:9f79:7cf3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471294010 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1471294475 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:419d:be94:9f79:7cf3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471294572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471294713 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.231 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471295188 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471295518 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471296883 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471296914 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1de5:8c4:84aa:a53e JOIN :#esoteric < 1471296992 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471297099 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471297119 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :George Soros's NGOs' files have been leaked! Yay for government transparency! < 1471297121 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471297196 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's an NGO, then how can it be government transparency? < 1471297202 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NGO means non-government... < 1471297253 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: because it is now proven that George Soros has been influencing the actions of European governments wrt to the migrant crisis < 1471297291 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a heinous affront to democracy < 1471297344 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope the Koch Brothers get leaked next < 1471297375 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see nothing wrong with the Koch snowflake. < 1471297432 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: clearly you haven't zoomed in enough < 1471297591 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, ~13.82 billion years ago: "What if I made a universe where things necessary to survive were rivalrous and excludable?" < 1471297890 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.5" < 1471297918 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: doxing may be the term you're looking for < 1471297980 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d0xxing < 1471298015 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1471298038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1471298045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there we go < 1471298083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably going to be buying a laptop. < 1471298089 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The word is good enough for Bruce Schneier so it's good enough for me) < 1471298095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my experiences lead me to avoid HP Pavilions. < 1471298114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :,( < 1471298125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, definitely avoid an HP laptop < 1471298134 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experiences with an HP Pavilion laptop, I mean. < 1471298134 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I recommend thinkpad < 1471298136 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ignore is still a win on that front, IMHO. < 1471298143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1471298144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471298145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs.
< 1471298160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Do you? More than e.g. Dell XPS 15? < 1471298165 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471298170 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend buying a soldering iron and some silicone < 1471298174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silicon is also useful < 1471298179 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Thinkpad is as good as Dell XPS 15? < 1471298185 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME Dells come loaded with more crap software < 1471298207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wouldn't be running Windows most of the time anyway. < 1471298213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it be like if I had a computer that wasn't full of unnecessary shit? < 1471298225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I could buy the Signature Edition from the Microsoft Store, which comes with a "no bloatware" promise. < 1471298230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is that what Linux feels like?) < 1471298242 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :O < 1471298248 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471298250 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Lenovo put spyware in its computers anyway? < 1471298272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I hardly use Windows so I care about the hardware. < 1471298275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1471298320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...does it? < 1471298323 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in that case, the manufacturer hardly matters, other than chassis aesthetics < 1471298326 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What Linux feels like depends on the distribution.) < 1471298343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then why Lenovo? < 1471298351 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like black < 1471298359 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like thin and light. < 1471298374 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their T series is suitably boxy and tough looking < 1471298413 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a MiG-31 of laptops < 1471298414 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops, laptops... who needs new laptops < 1471298449 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points at a laptop that is (probably) 4 or 5 years old IIRC
< 1471298454 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old ones work just fine! < 1471298455 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an arch linux on a server that didn't have man installed :D < 1471298464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dammit < 1471298466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it on my computer < 1471298489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I use a lenovo, but now I'm sad < 1471298510 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, orin, that's computer-colour-ist < 1471298516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It does have OneKey Optimizer, which is nice, albeit probably useless) < 1471298518 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't discriminate computers and laptops by colour < 1471298520 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else! < 1471298532 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :else what < 1471298538 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else you get... bad karma! < 1471298543 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something! < 1471298576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't like silver coloured computers < 1471298580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Yeah, only discriminate by computer gender, religion, national origin, sexuality, or gender identity < 1471298588 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But color is off-limits < 1471298623 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Computers, to the best of my knowledge, don't have gender, religion, sexuality, or gender identity. But yeah, also don't discriminate based on national origin. < 1471298642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Even if it's made in china? < 1471298655 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares into hppavilion[1]'s deep eyes.
< 1471298658 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops are post gender < 1471298662 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's made in China. < 1471298680 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then returns to normal.
< 1471298736 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All laptops are made in China by Taiwanese manufacturers abyway < 1471298786 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Guangdong megacity < 1471298813 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad went there once, he borught back a lot of cool picutres < 1471298870 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day I want to live in a city that big < 1471298893 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toronto is insufficiently urban < 1471299048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple probably makes the best laptops. < 1471299055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want an Apple computer. < 1471299096 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you mean, Apple hires 鴻海科技集團 to make laptops, according to their specs. < 1471299110 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple doesnt actually manufacture any laptops < 1471299127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple laptops are probably the best ones. < 1471299140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether they manufacture them or cause other people to manufacture them is irrelevant. < 1471299143 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want trackpoints < 1471299150 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Few *entities* actually do manufacturing of electronics themselves. < 1471299163 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Thinkpad has a button mouse < 1471299233 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a touchpad and a trackpoint, but I actually plug in a usb mouse most of the time < 1471299241 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love a sony vaio p with modern hardware < 1471299359 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471299364 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, interestingly until recently, cpu's were almost exclusively manufactured in the USA < 1471299376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it stop being interesting recently? < 1471299388 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...argh < 1471299445 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that now China manufactures some CPU's < 1471299482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be surprised if Intel did any CPU manufacturing in China. < 1471299502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, apparently they do. < 1471299529 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway < 1471299546 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. < 1471299556 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's the whole export restriction debacle that prompted China to make their own ... surprisingly competetive ... CPUs < 1471299558 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When can I get a Mill? twh < 1471299641 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway_TaihuLight ... so closely related to orin's link. < 1471299724 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mill? < 1471299766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1471299769 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know the Mill? < 1471299783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://millcomputing.com/docs/ < 1471299789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great. < 1471299809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should watch the videos. < 1471299855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen it mentioned but it didn't stick and I didn't investigate in any detail. Thanks for the reminder! < 1471299909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I ws in that situation the first several times I heard about it. < 1471299938 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually I got around to looking into it and then I watched all the videos. < 1471300006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you watch them on YouTube you might want to put it on 1.5x or 2x speed. < 1471300139 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, I don't see any actual hardware on this Mill site < 1471300144 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may well not exist as a real product < 1471300189 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently at least the ISA semi-exists, because they've been talking about their LLVM compiler work < 1471300244 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of vapor though < 1471300269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1471300302 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471300421 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471300513 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b5:bd6:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471300582 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :even some of the talks are vaporware... < 1471300600 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The talk will describe the machinery behind the Mill IPC protocols [...]" < 1471300603 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are they vaporwave < 1471300646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1471300655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the Mill people would HireFly < 1471300656 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471300669 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they pay any of their employees any money. < 1471300691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I heard one of them gets a bit now. < 1471300759 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1471300761 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it going < 1471300774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, y'know < 1471300841 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 < 1471300841 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 1 < 1471300859 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a sierpinski carpet in K earlier today < 1471300887 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ binview ([: ,./^:2 (3 3$1 1 1 1 0) *"0 _ ])^:2 ,.1 < 1471300888 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ⣯⡿⠽⣯ < 1471300888 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ⡷⣧⢤⡷ < 1471300913 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The belt is a cute idea. They say they have whitepapers but the closest to that I currently see is the wiki. < 1471300942 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not impressed so far. And I have no bandwidth for videos, here. < 1471300979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I checked there wasn't much information anywhere except the videos. < 1471301005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, videos are an awful medium for actual information. < 1471301013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can sympathize with not wanting to get the information via videos. < 1471301025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can get some information elsewhere too, e.g. http://millcomputing.com/topic/introduction-to-the-mill-cpu-programming-model-2/ < 1471301352 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well I may have a look at one or two of the talks this week... just need to be at work. < 1471301391 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the guy is a gifted speaker. < 1471301434 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471301523 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1de5:8c4:84aa:a53e QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471301986 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.220.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471302013 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471302014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy//HackEgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471302113 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471302600 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.220.208 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471303980 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/irccloud/irccloud-tools/wiki/Notice-handling makes me sad. < 1471304087 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually it's largely correct, but notices just should not result in any popups, ever) < 1471304187 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.220.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471304227 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b5:bd6:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1471304722 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.220.208 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471304725 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SLOVAKIAN CHICKEN < 1471304813 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b5:bd6:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471304920 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this computer I have some pinball game that is involving pokemon and has some kind of strange scoring, for example for each of your pokemons (you can have up to six) how many points you get is < 1471304961 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reelvalues(i)*int(m*(i+1.9+level_reached/3)) where reelvalues(i) is the number of that pokemon, int is rounding down a number to an integer, i is the slot number from 0 to 9, and level_reached is calculated based on what modes you have completed. < 1471304975 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And m is 5 if you have run out of balls to play, or 1 otherwise. < 1471305066 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/0 to 9/0 to 5/ < 1471305079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is reelvalues(i) a function of i? < 1471305108 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it is a array, I think < 1471305116 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I am not quite sure why it is called that) < 1471305168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I misread. < 1471305216 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471305728 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The variable that stores how many hit points opponent has is called "current_mode_y", while the variable that stores the time limit is called "current_mode_z". Spinners are worth 1 point, bumpers are worth 2 points if not flashing or 50 points if flashing, drop targets are worth 100 points, and some things are worth random numbers of points (why?) < 1471307081 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the stuff about new Magic: the Gathering Conspiracy set. So I thought of one card to make up: Enchant player ;; When ~ comes into play, enchanted player becomes the monarch. ;; At the beginning of enchanted player's upkeep, the monarch loses 1 life. < 1471307156 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1471307233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the monarch is. < 1471307312 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a new rule. Initially there is no monarch. Up to one player can be the monarch, and that player draws a card at the beginning of the end step (I don't know if it is a turn-based action or triggered ability; the proper rules are not yet written). If a creature deals combat damage to the monarch, that creature's controller becomes the monarch. < 1471307336 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know whether or not this effect uses the stack.) < 1471307358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each end step? < 1471307424 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only that player's own end step, I think. The proper rules are not yet written so I don't quite know. < 1471307491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471307509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a heffalump or woozle is very confusel < 1471307529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be too good if it was at each end step. < 1471307582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starts whistling that song
< 1471307645 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471307701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes he started whistling it again
< 1471307743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's very sly hth < 1471307765 0 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/oswg-member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471307932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds himself still whistling
< 1471307954 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not very subtle < 1471307975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play Spider and Web? < 1471307983 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That game was TG. < 1471308019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, one of disney's more psychedelic scenes, i believe < 1471308032 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471308136 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the past 8 weeks. I have some notes... listing too many toys of various polarities. < 1471308237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only two polarities. < 1471308244 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really not all that complicated. < 1471308249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it doesn't need to be. < 1471308286 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I'm sure it isn't, I just haven't continued. < 1471308297 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only two polarities: sieve and kettle. < 1471308321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you play S&W? < 1471308322 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't completed snakebird either < 1471308329 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smith & Wesson. No. < 1471308360 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much money is reasonable to spend on a computer? < 1471308364 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are the good ones expensive? < 1471308381 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :supply and demand? < 1471308403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second question was rhetorical. < 1471308413 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh really! < 1471308424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, really. < 1471308533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why would you ever ask a rhetorical question?! < 1471308550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seems to have stopped. for now.
< 1471308768 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471308848 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.220.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471308932 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471309033 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471309106 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471309124 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471309428 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471309867 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c862:6357:bf9e:431 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471310964 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.220.208 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471310988 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.220.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471311086 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471311358 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471311443 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471311722 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471311759 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49153&oldid=49149 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1411) 10Undo revision 49149 by [[Special:Contributions/DatCodingGuy|DatCodingGuy]] ([[User talk:DatCodingGuy|talk]]) (d and s are clearly broken) < 1471312772 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.220.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471312778 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.220.208 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471313088 0 :augur!~augur@50.242.87.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471313198 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471313299 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.220.208 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471313363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 15:30:08 UTC on Sunday, 4 December 292,277,026,596,[21][22] 64-bit versions of the Unix time stamp would cease to work, as it will overflow the largest value that can be held in a signed 64-bit number. This is nearly 22 times the estimated age of the universe, which is 1.37×1010 years (13.7 billion), and by this time all Earth-based systems running on 64-bit UNIX time will be long gone due to the Earth being incinerated by the red < 1471313363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : giant Sun in 7.6 billion years time (as of 2016). < 1471313434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a given. e.g. we could do like the Puppeteers and move Earth somewhere else. < 1471313464 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471313524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to put it differently, if humans or our descendants are still around by then, then i expect us to have learned how to solve such problems. < 1471313554 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471313569 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, this may not leave the Earth any _better_ off.) < 1471313653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i thought that estimate was around 4-5 billion years... < 1471313692 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : are we sure that we will have *descendants* by that time? ;) < 1471313711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yurume_: i clearly wrote an "if" hth < 1471313724 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i was using it in the loosest possible sense. < 1471313733 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1471313791 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a better word. < 1471313807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :successors. < 1471313810 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(feels like that the human logic avoids any resolution resulting in vacuous true) < 1471313869 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not quite vacuously true, i think. < 1471313874 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471313923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our successors _could_ be around but having failed to preserved Earth. < 1471314002 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b5:bd6:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471314034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not seeing it as important. it's not like current humans are always respectful to history. < 1471314145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49154&oldid=49145 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+180) 10/* Implementations */ < 1471314523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o74BnFSr8g is a thing that exists and this makes me happy < 1471314629 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471315603 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1471315636 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :novel now at 110k words what will i do to shorten it :( < 1471315994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :get rid of that annoying character that you put in just for laughs hth < 1471317666 0 :vague_!~vague@205.185.230.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471317690 0 :vague_!?@? NICK :Guest67520 < 1471317691 0 :Guest67520!?@? NICK :halvgrewe < 1471318203 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471318794 0 :halvgrewe!~vague@205.185.230.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471318915 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471319044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471319354 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:5a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471320079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471320291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471321387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471322651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tc < 1471322658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471322702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some good characterizations of P/NP/PSPACE/etc. that don't use Turing machines? < 1471322723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Tc is the abbreviation for Technetium, an element so sophisticated that it does not exist naturally. < 1471322727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tc': Tc is the abbreviation for Technetium, an element so sophisticated that it does not exist naturally. < 1471322780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I assume it's impossible to produce with a natural transformation? < 1471322802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :canonically so. < 1471322901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: PSPACE is the set of languages recognizable by super mario hth < 1471322906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? super mario < 1471322906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mario? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471322913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mario < 1471322915 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario is a classic PSPACE-complete problem invented by Nintendo. < 1471322922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you don't need the super. < 1471322948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Super Mario a version of Mario equipped with a Mario oracle? < 1471322957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1471322984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should work, though, since i believe PSPACE is low for itself. < 1471323049 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471323051 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471323346 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:5a26:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471324017 0 :augur!~augur@50.242.87.91 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471324300 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d801:7c32:8770:72ce JOIN :#esoteric < 1471324320 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:d801:7c32:8770:72ce QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471324818 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits ruddy < 1471324825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1471324853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg ruddy < 1471324858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ revert \ revert 1 \ echo "HackEgo? \xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0\xe2\x80\x8b_o)/\xc2\xaf" >wisdom/ruddy < 1471324883 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea why he made that.
< 1471324900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must have been funny in context. < 1471324914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/ruddy | tac < 1471324918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ summary: echo "HackEgo? \xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0\xe2\x80\x8b_o)/\xc2\xaf" >wisdom/ruddy \ date: Sat Dec 07 01:36:57 2013 +0000 \ user: HackBot \ changeset: 4150:d7b1acbebad0 < 1471324963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2013-12-07 hth < 1471325118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1471325131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0HRs0FY2U < 1471325143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to make thin hamster < 1471325144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no audio required < 1471325712 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4cd4:b0d5:f69f:211d JOIN :#esoteric < 1471325874 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4cd4:b0d5:f69f:211d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471325891 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4cd4:b0d5:f69f:211d JOIN :#esoteric < 1471327620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing from the side, it is so thin < 1471329059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything went better than expected < 1471329094 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the email get through? < 1471329117 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that. < 1471329122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have emailed dmm. < 1471329168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refer to the hamster hth < 1471329912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Calcutape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49155&oldid=49154 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (-9) 10/* Implementations */ < 1471330009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49156&oldid=49153 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+1503) 10/* C# */ < 1471330069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fishstacks14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49157&oldid=49146 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (-9) 10/* External resources */ < 1471330072 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:4cd4:b0d5:f69f:211d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471330146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49158&oldid=49148 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (-14) 10The last few edits of mine have been updating links < 1471330490 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d JOIN :#esoteric < 1471330612 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some ideas of new spell to make up for Dungeons&Dragons game, such as, to create an extra timelike dimension, to save part of the duration of a spell for later, to apply metamagic to opponent's spell, to feign invisibility, to become invisible to humans, to go back in time 13 seconds, to delay a spell until another ends... < 1471330684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49159&oldid=49156 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1503) 10Undo revision 49156 by [[Special:Contributions/DatCodingGuy|DatCodingGuy]] ([[User talk:DatCodingGuy|talk]]) (Still broken) < 1471330765 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More possibilities are, to redirect damage directed at summoned creatures to yourself, to suppress a spell during even-numbered rounds of its duration, to create coloured water (acts like normal water), to make any spell language-dependent, to force a target to decide his action in advance (but you don't know what his decision is), and also a few more. < 1471330840 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is feigning invisibility? < 1471330854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it mean that someone who can see invisible things thinks you're invisible, but you aren't actually? < 1471330870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which deadfish < 1471330870 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471330874 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they can see you, they believe you are invisible, but can see you despite that you are invisible. < 1471330900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1471330905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! deadfish < 1471330906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/!: 4: exec: ibin/deadfish: not found < 1471330917 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some variations on your spell "to go back in time 13 secods" < 1471330917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we have a deadfish anywhere. < 1471330918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you actually are invisible and they cannot see invisibility, it won't have any effect. If they can see invisible already, then it does have the effect you mentioned.) < 1471330924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, i think i have one somewhere... < 1471330932 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK, what kind of variations is that please? < 1471330949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, to go back in time 12 seconds, to go back in time 14 seconds, to go back in time 13 years, to go back in time 13 weeks, to go forward in time 13 seconds. < 1471330964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To go back in time 7 seconds, to go back in time 26 seconds... < 1471331007 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to just have one which is specifically for 13 seconds (a bit more than 2 rounds); it won't do a lot, but sometimes it is more than sufficient to do what you require. < 1471331075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A round is 6 seconds? < 1471331088 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1471331156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1471331158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49160&oldid=49159 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+75) 10Add test cases for d. < 1471331979 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:dd94:6a7c:b8a5:e684 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471331999 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471332138 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49161&oldid=49160 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* Example program */ Add another d to catch a type of error < 1471332287 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:dd94:6a7c:b8a5:e684 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471332407 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a47b:1fa:1a86:ff1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471332609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there's still no test for wrapping with i... < 1471333252 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1471333318 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471333323 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a47b:1fa:1a86:ff1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471333754 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1d8f:1d52:d03d:8565 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471334364 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471334405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1471334410 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://media.wizards.com/2016/azetllnwjpxztp2b_CN2/en_hBO2gZDg8f.png is ridiculous < 1471334512 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Conspiracy a new card type? < 1471334526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was introduced in the last Conspiracy set. < 1471334535 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it was in the first Conspiracy set invented at first. < 1471334537 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a bit broken to me, that card < 1471334548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a spot. < 1471334549 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All conspiracies are automatically banned. < 1471334570 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if you draft one or two other conspiracies this one becomes unusable. < 1471334571 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it can be used only in Limited formats < 1471334574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you need 40 cards in your deck. < 1471334703 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can depend on your format of drafting; if it is not a standard draft (for example, if you use more than three packs, or if you are playing Sealed with more than three packs) then you can have more. < 1471334743 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in a Limited game you can add any number of conventional basic lands to your sideboard, so you aren't going to run out. < 1471334869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run out of what? < 1471334882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean when you use this card. < 1471334885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1471334946 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run out of basic lands. < 1471335436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471335755 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471335800 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471336499 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471336930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471337129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471337484 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please to tell me if this example program is understable OK: http://www.intfiction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20365 < 1471337773 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly with the help I can make up some set/block of Magic: the Gathering cards. I have some cards I made up but I can get rid of a lot of the stuff and abilities and so on, write proper rules, make changes for balances and so on, assign rarities for use with draft/sealed, etc. < 1471337779 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as to add new cards. Still the same file for all of them I make up and once they will be added into one or more sets it can be locked up that specific card, although such thing as the picture and favortext and rarity can still be altered between sets. < 1471338166 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471338576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49162&oldid=49161 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+80) 10/* Example program */ Clarify that program does not actually print Hello world < 1471339918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49163&oldid=49162 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+1237) 10Finally got my Deadfish interpreter running thanks to oerjan < 1471340056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember whether John Metcalf is here. < 1471340195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, with the nick "Metcalf"? < 1471340197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471340234 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what nickname, but the name sounds a bit familiar < 1471340238 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471340710 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1d8f:1d52:d03d:8565 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471341633 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471345424 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471347251 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471347266 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471347801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471347807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soviet russia//¯\(°​_o)/¯ soviet russia? < 1471348967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49164&oldid=49121 5* 03Beta-Decay 5* (-29) 10Updated interpreters < 1471349114 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471349914 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471350526 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PIRATE CHICKEN < 1471350619 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471351330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Caker14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49165 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+1452) 10Created page with "Caker is a programming language created by [[User:TuxCrafting]] Caker operate on a unbounded bit tape == Commands == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Command !! Action |- | ..." < 1471352100 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471352181 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471352246 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471352645 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471352651 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caker seems to be a Boolfuck derivative. < 1471352679 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the "interesting" part is that it's different due to the way conditionals are implemented. < 1471352770 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the fact that you can't arbitrary flip bits. It seems that performing an arbitrary memory access is like playing a game of Lights Out or something. < 1471353047 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471353064 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here? < 1471353091 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is one mostly unnotable person here, currently sending a self-depreciatory message about how unnotable they are. < 1471353096 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is someone, at least. :) < 1471353180 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471353180 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1471353372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already found two "semi-useful" patterns in Caker. Repetitive "OWOWOO" on a 0-initialized tape acts as a trinary increment, while "O(OWOO)" clears it again. Not sure how much use that is, though. < 1471353397 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just looking in to caker < 1471353402 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was thinking of writing an interppreter for it < 1471353428 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also note that I'm using O and W because unicode is annoying to type and copy about. < 1471353446 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471353527 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good thing the tape is unbounded in either direction (I think? I hope!), otherwise programming would be around about impossible. < 1471353550 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can only go left without setting any 1 bits.) < 1471353576 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471354226 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471354329 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471354992 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471355065 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471355081 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471355142 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471355175 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1471355178 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1471355179 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :}{\ < 1471355184 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1471355594 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471355599 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471355778 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471355970 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471356908 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471357059 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471357199 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471358941 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1471360280 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471361184 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ssh'd into that new vm < 1471361187 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :checked uptime < 1471361191 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric : 14:21:47 up 3 days, 19:31, 2 users, load av.... < 1471361196 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWO USERS?!?! < 1471361204 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO THE FUCK IS HACKING MY Vohwait i have weechat < 1471361269 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this sums up my day < 1471361516 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1471361525 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me that I need to do some maintenance on my VPS.. < 1471361572 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471363076 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471363272 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471363392 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471365313 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-bash/2016-08/msg00043.html < 1471367778 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471367977 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471368499 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471368705 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471368745 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471369872 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471370912 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3847:c829:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471370912 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nbhesmgkiwlkiihp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1471370921 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1de5:8c4:84aa:a53e JOIN :#esoteric < 1471370937 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.211.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471371062 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, now people are using ⇛ and such in song titles? < 1471371188 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :by people do you mean weird japanese music? < 1471371200 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471371207 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :because for some reason they tend to like putting random unicode in song titles < 1471371218 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zclnvmubuftnydkf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471371252 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but titles like that cause problems with car stereos < 1471371261 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1471371314 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fonts don't support the characters, and it gets replaced with a ? < 1471371371 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lucky it even supports the hiragana and kanji < 1471371371 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reminded of 3L - ・－・・ －－－ ・・・－ ・
< 1471371408 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the last road trip I discovered that the car doesn't have halfwidth katakana < 1471371423 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen therefore/because used in song titles too < 1471371510 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471371577 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, for some reason, it has european accented letters, but vietnamese ends up looking like ti??g vi?t. < 1471371596 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d JOIN :#esoteric < 1471371600 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid car. < 1471371659 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471371660 0 :Cale_!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d JOIN :#esoteric < 1471371666 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles how to install fonts on a car
< 1471371667 0 :Cale_!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471371678 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d JOIN :#esoteric < 1471371716 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION turns up no results
< 1471371720 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1471373136 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bounces
< 1471373834 0 :choochter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-rpjcgqlynywtmddh QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471374012 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471374142 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgello < 1471374172 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3847:c829:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471374353 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471374850 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3847:c829:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471375146 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471375297 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:f804:1f5:6623:5335 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471375846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471375918 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld JOIN :#esoteric < 1471375943 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471377072 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Caker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49166&oldid=49165 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+439) 10 < 1471377310 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471377453 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471377540 0 :groteworld!~groteworl@unaffiliated/groteworld QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1471377890 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Caker14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49167&oldid=49166 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+10) 10minor cleanup < 1471378009 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:f804:1f5:6623:5335 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471378931 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471379001 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zclnvmubuftnydkf QUIT :Changing host < 1471379001 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471379001 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1471379001 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zclnvmubuftnydkf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471379797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471380181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471381161 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471381737 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471381786 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471382049 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471382461 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471383035 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471383229 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471383265 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471383353 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471383514 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Brexit? < 1471383567 0 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471383586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, ais523? < 1471383620 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471383673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1471383796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would expect that fizzie doesn't like Brexit. < 1471383918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471383927 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471383959 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't live at Britain but even before they did it I thought it was a good idea, I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. However I think probably they should have prepared better, it look like they have not prepared for it properly. < 1471384047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. < 1471384059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1287) I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. < 1471384067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you think it was a good idea? < 1471384137 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seemed to be lots of anti-immigrant and racist behaviour after the referendum, which seems like a bad thing < 1471384174 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nintendo NES System" < 1471384178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1471384203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have read some people hate Brexit and some people think that everyone who likes Brexit must be racist, but that doesn't make sense. That is not the only point of Brexit at all < 1471384288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49168&oldid=49018 5* 03Nthern 5* (+2291) 10Added interpreters implemented in Game of Life < 1471384410 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1471384420 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:DatCodingGuy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49169 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+277) 10Created page with "As for [[Calcutape]], you do realize that there is a Stack in System.Collections.Generic, right. Would have made your job easier, as would simply parsing the string before..." < 1471384422 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure < 1471384425 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you going to move to the US to escape anti-immigrant and racist behaviour? < 1471384441 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1471384480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why people in the US are anti-immigrant, given that the country is made up entirely of people who are immigrants or nearly so. < 1471384604 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semes a bit odd, yes < 1471384676 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do i run a file from a specific path, like ~/workspace/other/rbfile.rb, using the ruby command? < 1471384692 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi firefly < 1471384725 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1471385037 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm on question, i now have a functional ruby sandbox on my bot :D < 1471385253 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471385294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49170&oldid=46622 5* 03108.36.163.79 5* (+104) 10 < 1471385536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:S.I.L.O.S14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49171 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+190) 10Created page with "I would like to suggest 1) clearing up the syntax 2) adding some new lines and such in the description ~~~~" < 1471385876 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471385931 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471386035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49172&oldid=49150 5* 03108.36.163.79 5* (+16) 10 < 1471386080 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471386106 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3847:c829:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471386376 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.208.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471386492 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471386633 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471386779 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471386910 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38f8:bd24:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471387023 0 :irctc817!45f3f0db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.243.240.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471387121 0 :caffeine!~androirc@2601:300:4400:6f92:b965:f2f:684a:18e1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471387166 0 :caffeine!~androirc@2601:300:4400:6f92:b965:f2f:684a:18e1 PART #esoteric : < 1471387310 0 :irctc817!45f3f0db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.243.240.219 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471387839 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: IME, immigrants hate other immigrants < 1471387964 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might want to be an immigrant someday, so I don't hate immigrants. < 1471387996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could move to the US. < 1471388020 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that would be a downgrade! I might as well move to belarus < 1471388138 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm moving somewhere it has to be less dangerous than Canada < 1471388345 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, low crime rate, good healthcare system, no morons toting guns around... < 1471388392 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1471388400 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1471388443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much health care would cost me if I bought it by myself. < 1471388452 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :England would be nice though! Good weather too. < 1471388534 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1de5:8c4:84aa:a53e QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471388829 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471388841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :England has good weather? < 1471389482 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "good" < 1471389512 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch < 1471389763 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :define good without using the words pooch or scow < 1471389805 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jam < 1471389987 0 :xfix!~xfix@unaffiliated/xfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1471390041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: invokes positive reinforcement in the human brain < 1471390157 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471390810 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471390932 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38f8:bd24:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471390942 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38f8:bd24:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471391097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471391371 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:DatCodingGuy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49173&oldid=49169 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+503) 10 < 1471391439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:DatCodingGuy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49174&oldid=49173 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+23) 10 < 1471391513 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471391584 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471391715 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471392018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1471392019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious interjecting zombie øverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1471392051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#ø#oe# < 1471392053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious interjecting zombie oeverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1471392126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` howg oerjan | grep prono < 1471392128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471392147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/interjecting/pronounced/ < 1471392149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious pronounced zombie oeverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1471392176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fear we may be running out of word classes. < 1471392305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks of another one, for later.
< 1471392401 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the worst mnemonic idea < 1471392417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnasty. < 1471392421 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :promotional video = netorare < 1471392431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1471392444 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PV=nRT < 1471392456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1471392457 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ideal gas law < 1471392461 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471392469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not say PV/nT=R? < 1471392478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like a much more reasonable formulation to me. < 1471392500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :promotional video over net = rubbish < 1471392562 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PV=nRT was how i learned it. i just thought of rearraging the RT to TR < 1471392585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was how I learned it too. < 1471392596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I decided it was silly and better written as PV/nT=R < 1471392611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or PV/nT=P'V'/n'T' or something. < 1471392655 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but fractuons are hard, waaa < 1471392656 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471392661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you notice my nice mnemonic hth < 1471392670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth < 1471392687 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the important thing is that P and V are on the top of the thing and n and T are on the bottom. < 1471392697 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohayoily < 1471392702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's no harder to remember than P and V being on the left and n and T being on the right. < 1471392723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has forgotten what n and R might be.
< 1471392729 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PV=nTR < 1471392741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n is the number of things you have or something. < 1471392753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :R is just a constant equal to PV/nT < 1471392755 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n is number of moles < 1471392769 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to make a good mnemonic, you need to be a good PVnTR, hth < 1471392813 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :R is the ideal gas constant < 1471392815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is right, n is silly. < 1471392819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PV/T < 1471392820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mole < 1471392821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mole? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471392826 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471392827 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Request failed. < 1471392871 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471392875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't even an equation. R is silly. < 1471392891 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `metar' failed with: <> < 1471392907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Mole is a unit for measuring large numbers of burrowing teeth. < 1471392909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just remember: PV/T is constant. < 1471392910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'mole': Mole is a unit for measuring large numbers of burrowing teeth. < 1471392969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471392975 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuh-uh < 1471393028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you in Montréal? < 1471393040 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. yup. < 1471393047 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of Montréal-style bagels? < 1471393058 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are the best in the world. < 1471393065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the ones at http://www.beautysbagelshop.com/ are "Montreal-inspired". < 1471393091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd mole//s/a/an SI/ < 1471393093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/mole//Mole is an SI unit for measuring large numbers of burrowing teeth. < 1471393111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, let's not forget new york bagels, yo < 1471393117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it really a unit? < 1471393166 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when boily is in the bay area, he can try those Oakland bagels and compare. < 1471393180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some scow bagels today so I'm a bit irritated. < 1471393343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: o < 1471393346 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1471393369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm pretty sure that mole is an SI unit, yes < 1471393385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an officially fundamental one, even. < 1471393410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or basic, whatever the word is. < 1471393419 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is k an SI unit? < 1471393442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact, if you try to write i'm with your fingers misplaced, you get just o hth) < 1471393462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's an SI prefix i think < 1471393468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :K is a unit, kelvin. < 1471393484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, mole is abbreviated mol iirc < 1471393491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't mole more like k than K? < 1471393507 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1471393520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not officially, no. < 1471393524 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you don't say "a mole of atoms", just "a mole". < 1471393536 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you'd say a mole of atoms. < 1471393553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what's the unit? < 1471393557 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a number. < 1471393582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's a number. but it's used as a unit. < 1471393593 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like k? < 1471393614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :k isn't used as a unit. you cannot use it without a following unit. < 1471393631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use mol without a following unit either, can you? < 1471393641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mole of atoms. Not just a mole. < 1471393642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what follows mol isn't an SI unit. < 1471393653 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is atom a uni? < 1471393656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're obviously trolling, anyway. < 1471393657 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*t < 1471393665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think SI is the one that's trolling. < 1471393675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes no sense to call mole a unit. < 1471393679 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever. I'll call it a unit. < 1471393699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's perfectly rational when you consider its origin in chemistry. < 1471393723 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in chemistry it's just a multiplier of some thing. < 1471393749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot say whether it historically preceded knowing that it represented a number, but it's used for its chemical meaning. < 1471393755 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you could have like a kilomole i guess, but a kilomega doesn't make sense < 1471393798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chemical meaning is still not used on its own. < 1471393817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mole of water or something I have no problem with. < 1471393831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good unit. Like a kilometar. < 1471393846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471393865 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like millimetar < 1471393866 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `metar' failed with: <> < 1471393932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1471393932 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Request failed. < 1471393950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1471393970 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `metar' failed with: <> < 1471393986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think possibly the server may have some trouble. < 1471393989 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OAK 21/whatever < 1471393990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google metar < 1471393991 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.aviationweather.gov/adds/metars/ < 1471394003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it's not lambdabot's web access, at least. < 1471394029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh KOAK did answer. < 1471394038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they changed the format. < 1471394093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e i think @metar has broken hth < 1471394093 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471394112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wanted to make a pun then realized he doesn't know how metar is pronounced.
< 1471395136 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pronounce it like i pronounce "me" followed by how i pronounce "tar" < 1471395519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit late now, anyhow. < 1471395548 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mɛtɑ:ʁ/ < 1471395558 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would a broken @metar help? < 1471395577 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: from their website, they look like bagels inspried by an inspiration of a "true" story. < 1471395580 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471395581 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 162349Z 06015KT 040V100 3/4SM R06L/P6000FT/U R06R/P6000FT/U RA BR SCT008 BKN014 OVC023 19/18 A2982 RMK SF3SC4SC1 SLP101 DENSITY ALT 600FT < 1471395584 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH! < 1471395595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't follow hth < 1471395636 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was back at the bagel discussion. the Oakland bagels don't feel the authenticest hth < 1471395663 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, trying to make lambdie retrieve the CYUL METAR without erroring. < 1471395691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about New York bagels? < 1471395707 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like spinach bagels < 1471395708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1471395708 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 162350Z 12005KT CAVOK 09/08 Q1023 RMK WIND 670FT 14003KT < 1471395731 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: never tried them yet. < 1471395735 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e never mind, it was temporary. lambdabot can once again metar requirements. < 1471395735 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471395737 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynamello. heretic. < 1471395747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1471395749 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when are you going to be in california, anyway < 1471395775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thx tdh < 1471395785 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeh... I went there once in my lifetime, so I'd say... probably somewhere in 14 years? < 1471395791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're 14? < 1471395795 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :27. < 1471395814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i pronounce "metar" like i pronounce "meta" followed by how i pronounce the letter "r" hth < 1471395836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 is old hth < 1471395852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that was rude < 1471395854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1471395858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 is not that old < 1471395892 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not old yet. I'm procrastinating like a boss on becoming old :D < 1471396018 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may borrow that approach < 1471396123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that IE's url address completion is annoying whenever you actually _do_ want to visit a URL that's a prefix of an already visited one.
< 1471396185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in this case, wiktionary meta vs. METAR. which somehow automatically went to metaR.) < 1471396240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't necessarily trust your pronunciation of "meta", hth < 1471396263 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i necessarily trust _anyone_'s pronunciation of METAR.) < 1471396281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even dr. metar's own pronunciation? < 1471396302 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trustable. I am sane! < 1471396363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be good at procrastinating becoming old, but i'm afraid i may have lost the knack in recent years. < 1471396383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm sure your pronunciation is perfect for french hth < 1471396404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe i should qualify that with "in english". < 1471396433 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, maybe my English only reaches ~0.5 quintopias... < 1471396446 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1471396532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i've come upon strange evidence of québécois near-madness. like how you pronounce "coeur", and also a (disputed) claim you pronounce "un" rhotacized. < 1471396537 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: certainly my pronounciification is idiolectic, but I justify it on the basis that it should start the same way as "meteorology" since that's what it's about < 1471396570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cœur is pronounced exactly as it is written hth < 1471396580 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhotacized "un"???????? < 1471396598 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ... "urn"? < 1471396619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i said it was disputed. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-colored_vowel#Quebec_French < 1471396667 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! yup, perfectly agree with the hamburger example. but /œ̃/ is definitely /œ̃/. < 1471396730 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://clyp.it/lhxmjgps ← cœur. < 1471396738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the Quebec pronunciation at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/c%C5%93ur#Pronunciation sounds more like an /a/ than /œ/ to me < 1471396772 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it glides from [a~æ] over to [œ]. < 1471396779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1471396780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, you do it the same way < 1471396783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :droste.zip is horrifying < 1471396855 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1471396875 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any other words your want to hear quebecquified? < 1471396883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dives out the nearest window
< 1471396913 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles hppavilion[1] back in. "don't you dare flee"
< 1471396928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how do you do that with a mapole? < 1471396934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do mapoles contain a crook? < 1471396939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1471396939 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1471396940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1471396940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1471396945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win! < 1471396947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my POV < 1471396957 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1471396960 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at hppavilion[1]
< 1471396970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You win from your POV or I win from your POV? < 1471396995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you using a special version then? < 1471397008 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win from here too hth < 1471397017 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's all technique htah < 1471397051 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia article for 7-Zip mentions many file formats that it can load, but there are some that I think it implements but are not listed there, such as Docfile archives. < 1471397088 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think you used the corkscrew to snag him hth < 1471397100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION agrees with quintopia
< 1471397121 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the spork. less pointy. < 1471397230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1471397298 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still corkscrewed hppavilion[1] nonetheless. when you need to make sure one is snagged, you corkscrew. < 1471397355 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38f8:bd24:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471397481 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-zzfighwtgfyfbslr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471397610 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had to guess, how much more common would you say the lowercase version of a word is versus the capitalized version on average (excluding words that are always capitalized)? < 1471397614 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ratio? < 1471397668 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:100, maybe? < 1471397730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm because of articles, most english words probably rarely occur at the beginning of a sentence. < 1471397792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would depend on how you take the average - per word lexically, or per word in usage. < 1471397822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the latter, 1:100 is too low; few sentences have that many words. < 1471397919 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471397927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the former, it seems hard to guess. < 1471398068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my first claim isn't exactly watertight. < 1471398122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION may be tired.
< 1471398194 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:100 didn't seem that off to me, and as of this moment it's the only estimate i've received < 1471399218 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471400071 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CRICKET CHICKEN < 1471400311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49175&oldid=49172 5* 03Iconmaster 5* (+21) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ < 1471400587 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471400596 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49176 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+8745) 10Created page with "'''Stacker''' is an esoteric programming language created by Fletcher Cutting ([[User:DatCodingGuy]]) and takes inspiration from multiple languages including [[Stack Up]], C..." < 1471400657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49177&oldid=49175 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+14) 10/* S */ < 1471400843 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49178&oldid=49176 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */ < 1471400856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49179&oldid=49178 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+0) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1471402442 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subterra14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49180 5* 03Tripl3dogdare 5* (+1559) 10Created page with "'''Subterra''' is a [[turing tarpit|tarpit-style]] language that attempts to get as close to being a proper imperative programming language as possible within the following re..." < 1471402708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1471402720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, the correct way to measure the length of a novel is in phonemes < 1471403632 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many phonemes are in the word "tour"? < 1471403651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 1 < 1471403670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there a movie called "The Keyboard", and why is it considered one of the 15 greatest works of art of all time by the Vatican? < 1471403681 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subterra14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49181&oldid=49180 5* 03Tripl3dogdare 5* (+139) 10Added Collatz sequence example < 1471403695 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that the word "tour" has a phoneme in it. < 1471403767 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49182&oldid=49179 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */ < 1471403905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: If you want to say it like "too-er", you can argue that the "er" is there because "tour" is somehow a corrupted agent noun, but that's kind of pushing it < 1471403926 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like you're talking about syllables. < 1471403964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I'm not < 1471403971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate syllables < 1471403978 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than I hate Unicorns < 1471403996 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "tour" has two phonemes at the very least: there's "t", and one or two in "our". < 1471404055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Wait, did I say phonemes? < 1471404057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1471404072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "morphemes" < 1471404078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* seppuku < 1471404189 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "corrupted agent noun" mean? < 1471404200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: An agent noun that has been corrupted < 1471404209 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corrupted like "lol" -> "lulz" < 1471404270 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many morphemes are in "human being"? < 1471404315 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "one Pokemon" and "six Pokemon"? < 1471404316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471404322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"being" is probably 2 < 1471404385 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"human" is... 1? < 1471404458 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Human" is definitely 1. < 1471404513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can't apply "hu" to anything else < 1471404516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hucat < 1471404518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hudog < 1471404521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hucarpenter < 1471404535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subterra14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49183&oldid=49181 5* 03Tripl3dogdare 5* (+107) 10Added factorial example < 1471404609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "hu" is "of or belonging to" from now on < 1471404628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that bicycle is hume" < 1471404685 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the word "human" isn't related to "man". < 1471404719 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It's retroetymology < 1471404733 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme think, there's a word for that. < 1471404820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is, isn't there? < 1471404822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember it < 1471404934 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology - or reanalysis. < 1471405065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subterra14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49184&oldid=49183 5* 03Tripl3dogdare 5* (-14) 10Clarified warning < 1471405089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1471405118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not claiming that "human" has such an etymology; I frankly don't care and am deciding to make it hu+man < 1471405335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh, a better name is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-formation < 1471405754 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49185&oldid=49182 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+257) 10/* Examples */ < 1471405760 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471405848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of wikiactivity today < 1471405865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wiktivity?) < 1471406165 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49186&oldid=49185 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+134) 10/* Notes */ < 1471406209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Subterra14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49187&oldid=49184 5* 03Tripl3dogdare 5* (+0) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1471406429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49188&oldid=49186 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+358) 10/* Examples */ < 1471406449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49189&oldid=49188 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+2) 10/* Examples */ < 1471406883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471407064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1287 < 1471407065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1287) I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. < 1471407140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled quotes//1287/s,I.*,[...] & [...], < 1471407141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unknown command: `/' < 1471407145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1471407151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled quotes//1287s,I.*,[...] & [...], < 1471407153 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes// EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ GKennethR: he shou < 1471407159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1287 < 1471407160 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1287) [...] I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. [...] < 1471407174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoterules < 1471407175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoterules? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471407177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quotefmt < 1471407178 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotefmt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471407180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1471407181 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoteformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1471407194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you can't quote part of a line of irc now? < 1471407202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope hth < 1471407205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1471407206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious pronounced zombie oeverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1471407227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what do you mean "now" < 1471407238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#zombie#fascist# < 1471407311 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIVA IL BRAINS < 1471408059 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471408377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder how much health care would cost me if I bought it by myself. <-- an arm and a leg hth < 1471408598 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :your remaining arm and leg < 1471408622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it really that expensive? < 1471408625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should know the answer. < 1471408680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is some variant of "cantrip" of Magic: the Gathering cards, including some variant I made up. < 1471408686 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as common "Draw a card" cantrip, variants can also be done such as "Draw a card at the beginning of the next upkeep", "You may draw a card", "Opponent draw a card", and "Draw a card if you have less than [number] cards in your hand". < 1471408704 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that most people complain about the high costs of sick care, not health care < 1471409338 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471409412 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471409714 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: to be sure, health care is quite expensive too, but a lot of insurance plans cover such routine maintenance by default < 1471409723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ƕ < 1471409724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0195 LATIN SMALL LETTER HV] < 1471409762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insurance covering routine maintenance is a bit odd. < 1471409852 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably cheaper for the insurer < 1471410073 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been to a doctor in years. < 1471410080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should go occasionally, really. < 1471411647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like if I bought health insurance myself, there would be an upper bound of ~$10k/year, maybe a little more or less than that, on premiums+out of pocket maximum. < 1471412091 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're extraordinary / so better be wary / because they come in every shape and size < 1471412367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you're not speaking about cubes. < 1471412384 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cube < 1471412397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1471412468 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd cube//s#rs#rs,# < 1471412470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1471412478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/cube//Cubes come in all sizes, colors, and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. < 1471412484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suppresses a whistle
< 1471412511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives in
< 1471412530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black cubes come in all sizes and materials, but only one shape and color. < 1471412550 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Large black plastic cubes come in all, but only one shape, size, color, and material. < 1471412574 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cubic meters, despite the description, come in several shapes, materials and colors, but only one size. < 1471412598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*despite the name < 1471412711 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471412727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What shape are cubic metars? < 1471414310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471416526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471416638 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e88d:c038:9b79:a069 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471417409 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1471417410 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 170500Z 30008KT 15SM SCT250 19/16 A3005 RMK CI3 SLP175 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1471417610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49190&oldid=49189 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+210) 10/* Examples */ < 1471418029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1471418029 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 170559Z 31009KT 10SM BKN005 14/13 A2990 RMK AO2 T01390128 < 1471418444 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471418690 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471418693 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471418776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49191&oldid=49190 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (-807) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1471418823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stacker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49192&oldid=49191 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+4) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1471419386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471420036 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471420071 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the "Lewis Carroll" Magic: the Gathering card that I made up? < 1471420228 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen it. < 1471420322 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/mtg/cardfile.php?do=card&id=Lewis+Carroll < 1471420395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to tap Lewis Carroll to activate the ability. Then why is it useful for it to get first strike? Are you expecting to use this ability after blocking? < 1471420431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when one creature out of a band gets first strike? < 1471420472 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That creature deals damage during the first strike step and not during the normal strike step. < 1471420504 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e88d:c038:9b79:a069 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471420512 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:6815:6e97:a390:486f JOIN :#esoteric < 1471420512 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can use that ability after blocking, or even during the declare attackers step while attacking if you gie it vigilance somehow. < 1471420531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you untap it, of course. < 1471420550 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too, I forgot that < 1471420552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of deck would you use this card in? < 1471420580 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; possibly one with Pearled Unicorn. < 1471420609 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Read the Gatherer comments for Pearled Unicorn and then you can learn.) < 1471420627 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also read my new "bands with other" rules, which are necessary for this to work properly.) < 1471420700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't see those. < 1471420825 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This "Lewis Carroll" card may be to add to a unofficial sequel of "Legends" set, possibly (it could also to reprint Pearled Unicorn with the same text, which mentions Lewis Carroll); such sequel should be to design to be included in a block draft with original Legends to improve the draft/sealed game. < 1471420902 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:70fa:f4d6:43aa:600b JOIN :#esoteric < 1471420912 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do you know? < 1471421038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I know now? < 1471421098 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.217.109 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471421176 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471421278 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471421286 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:70fa:f4d6:43aa:600b QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471421549 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49193&oldid=46846 5* 03144.36.114.154 5* (+33) 10fixed text < 1471421713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49194&oldid=49193 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-33) 10Undo revision 49193 by [[Special:Contributions/144.36.114.154|144.36.114.154]] ([[User talk:144.36.114.154|talk]]) (I'm doubtful.) < 1471421912 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471422059 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1471448333 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471448592 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471448695 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471449955 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471451030 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471452232 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471453112 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471453169 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471453346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Dorissominever 5* 10New user account < 1471453429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mdsfsdf14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49197 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+7) 10Created page with "dfgsdfg" < 1471453462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ABC KA MATLAB = ABE = BAGA === CHUTIYA=== 1 8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks support phone number Quickbooks number Quickbooks phone number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49198 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+7560) 10Created page with "ABC KA MATLAB = ABE = BAGA === CHUTIYA=== 1 888 513 5978 Quickbooks support phone number Quickbooks number Quickbooks phone number Qui < 1471453526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B c.a.l.l @ 1-8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 @ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r @ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.o.s s.u..p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49199 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11977) 10Created page with "1 888 513 5978 quickbooks tech support number quickbooks customer support number q u i c k b o o k s t e c h n i c a < 1471453580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI +¦$÷1.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8 .quickbooks payroll tech su.ppo.rt. ph.one .nu.mb.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49200 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10877) 10Created page with "PML +¦$÷1888-513-5978 quickbooks payroll tech support phone number Asked by Babu a moment ago Phone Number, QuickBooks PRO Customer Support Number,@@@@ QuickBooks PRO Custom..." < 1471453585 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like spam < 1471453701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ 1.8.8..8.~.5.1.3~.5.9.7.8 .Quickbooks phone number, Quickbooks technical support, number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49201 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18515) 10Created page with "Call 1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical help contact number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support contact number,1888-51. < 1471453712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B c.a.l.l @ 1-8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 @ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r @ Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u..p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49202 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+29563) 10Created page with "QuickBooks Pro Phone number 1888!!513!!5978 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number Quickbooks Pro Customer Support < 1471453729 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks very spammy indeed < 1471453738 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods fizzie about the spam
< 1471453769 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ 1.8.8..8.~.5.1.3~.5.9.7.8 .Quickbooks p.ho.n.e n.um.b.er., Quickbooks te.c.h.ni.c.al. su.pp.o.r.t., .n.u.m.b..e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49203 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18515) 10Created page with "Call 1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical help contact number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical suppor < 1471453814 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you spam a phone number somewhere < 1471453856 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but they must earn a lot for doing it considering how persistent they seem to be < 1471453917 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ Call .1.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-5.9.7.8 .qu.ickbooks t.e.ch.n.i.c.a.l .s.u.p.p.or.t. .n.u.m.b.er.,.1.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. quickbooks tech.n.i.c.al h.el.p .cont.a.ct. .n.u.m.be.r,14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49204 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10884) 10Created page with "USA@JEETôßPππu◙ 1 888 513 5978 Quickbooks Support PhonE Number..,Ω»Γ╚╚☻☻ô < 1471454014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ Call .1.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-5.9.7.8 U.S.A.@J.E.E.T.ô.ß.P.π.π.u.◙ .1 .8.8.8. .5.1.3.. .5.9.7.8. .Q.u.ickbooks Supp.o.r.t .Phon.E .Num.b.er.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49205 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+23798) 10Created page with "™+Describe™+Quickboks™+SuPport™+18885135978 Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number Quickbooks here ™+Describe™+Qui < 1471454138 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~™+D.e.s.c.ri.b.e.™+Quickboks™+Su.Pp.o.r.t™+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Te.ch. 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ZZZzzz… < 1471454396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QuickBooks1. .8..8.8. .5.1.3. .5.9.7.8. .P.RO. .T.e..c.hn.i..c.a.l.+S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .P.h.o.n.e+.+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49209 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11019) 10Created page with "USA ACCOUNTS@1-888-513-5978(( )) QuickBooks Payroll Tech Support Phone Number,QuickBooks Technical Support USA ACCOUNTS@1-888-513-5978(( )) QuickBooks Payroll Tech Support P < 1471454698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Dorissominever 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Quickbooksd8.jpg10]]": Laung_da_Lachkar1._.8.8.8._.5.1.3._.5.9.7.8._.Q.U.I.C..K.B.O.O.K.S._.t.e.c.h._.s..u.p.p.o.r.t._..p.h.o.n.e._.n.u.m.b..e.r._.1.._.8..8.8._.5.1.3._.5..9.7..8_..Q.U.I..C.K.B..O.O.K.S._..t..e.c..h._.S..u.p.p..o.r..t._N.u..m.b.e..r. Help@Call 1-888-513-5978... < 1471454746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Avi 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Quick.Books P.A.Y.R.O.L.L. t..ec.h. .s.u.p.po.r.t. .n.u.m.b.e.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49211 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10797) 10Created page with "Avi~~~ 1.888.513.5978 QuickBooks™ PAYROLL tech support number Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s (1-888.513-5978) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.a.y.r.o.l.l s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Hel..." < 1471454977 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471455006 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Dorissominever 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:C.H.O.T.A B.H.I.M. ) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.e.r.v.i.c.e p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.jpg10]]": Laung_da_Lachkar1._.8.8.8._.5.1.3._.5.9.7.8._.Q.U.I.C..K.B.O.O.K.S._.t.e.c.h._.s..u.p.p.o.r.t._..p.h.o.n.e._.n.u.m.b..e.r. < 1471455094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.A.Y.R.O.L.L.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49213 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+9016) 10Created page with "KMML ++¦$÷1888-513-5978 quickbooks Assisted support phone number KMML ++¦$÷1888-513-5978 quickbooks Assisted support phone number KMML ++¦$÷ < 1471455240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Laung da Lachkar1. .8.8.8. .5.1.3. .5.9.7.8. .Q.U.I.C..K.B.O.O.K.S. .t.e.c.h. .s..u.p.p.o.r.t. ..p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b..e.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49214 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+198923) 10Created page with "Laung_da_Lachkar1._.8.8.8._.5.1.3._.5.9.7.8._.Q.U.I.C..K.B.O.O.K.S._.t.e.c.h._.s..u.p.p.o.r.t._..p.h.o.n.e._.n.u.m.b..e.r._.1.._.8..8.8._.5.1.3._.5 < 1471455311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ .1.8.8.8..-.5.1.3.-.5..9.7.8 quickbooks t.e.c.hn.i.c.a.l. s.u.p.p.o.r.t. n.u.m.b..er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49215 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18515) 10Created page with "Call 1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical help contact number,1888-513-5978 quickbooks technical support contact number,1888-51..." < 1471455312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI !!!1.8..8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8 Quickbooks p.a.y.r.o.l.l te.ch. .H.e.lp.. D.e.s.k .P.h.o.n.e. ..Nu.m.b.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49216 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+9870) 10Created page with "Quickbooks payroll tech Support((1888 513 5978)) Customer Service for Install, Update & Troubleshoot Quickbooks payroll tech Phone Number)))) 1-888-513-5978 ((((Qui < 1471455313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[071.-.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-5.9.7.8./...Q.uickbooks e.r.r.or. 2.4./7. .s.up.po.r.t. .p.h.on..e .n.u.m.b.e.r.,.Q..uic.k.b.o.ok.s. .e.rr.o.r. .te.l.e.p.h..on.e. n.u.m.b.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49217 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+12419) 10Created page with "$$ Shairka*** Quickbooks error Support Phone Number 1.888.513.5978 Quickbooks error pro phone number usaQuickb < 1471455313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[071.-.8..8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8 .Q.uickbooks pay.r.o.l.lS.u.p.po.r.t .p.h.on.e. .n.u.mber .1. .8.8.8 .5.1.3 .5.9...7.8 .Quickboo.k.s. .p.a.yro.l.l.Su.p.p.ort. .P.H.ON.E. .N..u.m.be.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49218 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+12403) 10Created page with "Quickbooks payrollSupport 1-888-513-5978 Quickbooks payrollSupport phone number USA@JEETôà < 1471455386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.a.y.r.o.l.l.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49219 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+9016) 10Created page with "KMML ++¦$÷1888-513-5978 quickbooks Assisted support phone number KMML ++¦$÷1888-513-5978 quickbooks Assisted support phone number KMML ++¦$÷ < 1471455431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07KIMKIM .C.H..I.N.I. .1....8...8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. q.u.i.c.k.b..o.o..k.s. ..e.n.t..e.r.p..r.i..s.e. .t.e..c.h. ..s.u.p..p.o.r.t.. .p..h.o.n.e.. .n.u..m.be.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49220 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10050) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Su.p.p.o.rt P.h.o.n.e Number(1-8.8.8-5.1.3-5.9.7.8)) ! 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N.u..m.b.e..r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49221 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+198923) 10Created page with "Laung_da_Lachkar1._.8.8.8._.5.1.3._.5.9.7. < 1471455838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.U.I.C.K..B.0.0..K.S.*.!!!!!*@1.8.8.8...5.1.3...5.9.7.8.).))*!!*Qu.i.c.k.b.o.o..k.s. .P.a.yr..o.l.l....S.u.p.p..o.r.t..Q.u.i.c..k.B.o.o.k..s14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49222 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11910) 10Created page with "QUICKB00K*!!!!!*@1.888.513.5978)))*!!*Quickbooks Payroll.SupportQuickBooks?PAYROLL.CUSTOMER.Support phone Number CANADA.Quickbook < 1471456061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07®¶¶¶¥¥¤¤¤ÞQ.u.ic..k.b.o.o.k..s. .c..u.s.t.o..m.e.r. .s.u..p.p.o.r..t. .n.u.m.b.e.r®¶¶¶¥¥¤¤¤Þ 1. .8.8.8. .5..1.3 .5..9.7.8. ..Q.u..i.c.k.b.oo.k.s.. .c.u.st..o.m.er.. .s...u.p.p.o.r..t. .p.h.o.n.e.. .n.u..m.b.e..r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49223 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18311) 10Created page with "Quickbooks customer support number 1 88 < 1471456085 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. < 1471456248 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1888? that's a toll free number isn't it? < 1471456397 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07P.h.o.n..e. .n.u..m.b.e.r.C.a.l.l 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks Er.ro.r. t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a..l. .S.u.p.p.o..r.t. .P.h.o..n.e.n.u.m.b.e..r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49224 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+15274) 10Created page with "P.h.o.n..e. .n.u..m.b.e.r.C.a.l.l 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks Er.ro.r. t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a..l. .S.u.p.p.o..r.t. .P.h.o..n.e.n.u.m.b < 1471456464 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471456528 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quickbooks Er.ro.r. t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a..l. .S.u.p.p.o..r.t. .P.h.o..n.e.n.u.m.b.e..r. .C..a.l..l. .1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks Er.r.o.r.P.h.o.n.e.n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49225 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+14832) 10Created page with "Describe Account Help Intuit.@ ((1-888-513-5978@ Quickbooks Error tech Support number Quickbooks Error pro 201 < 1471456660 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471456662 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spammer < 1471456673 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got put on it by random page. its spam < 1471456706 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll call them < 1471456720 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's toll free after all < 1471456728 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49226 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+12465) 10Created page with "Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c < 1471456764 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its a spammer. someone delete the pages. i dont have permission to. so someone needs to < 1471456986 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some sort of delete template i can use to mark them for deleting? < 1471457051 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... what if we move them all to the same name < 1471457066 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like deletethis < 1471457085 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Orenwatson 5* 10moved [[02Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 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02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49233&oldid=48922 5* 03Albedo 5* (+3632) 10/* Available instructions in beeswax */ New section: Important notes about bee creation and bee execution order < 1471457536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're helping. < 1471457552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Beeswax14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49234&oldid=49233 5* 03Albedo 5* (+0) 10/* Important notes about bee creation and bee execution order */ < 1471457627 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well I've contacted Intuit (they make QuickBooks) about the spam < 1471457932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471457960 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilellon[1] < 1471458071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks error t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49235 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+12472) 10Created page with "Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks error t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks < 1471458539 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie we need to implement a wikibot that deletes any page with the word Quickbooks on it < 1471458539 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471458653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks p.r.o. t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49236 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5274) 10Created page with "QuickBooks pro help desk number ((1.888.513.5978)) QuickBooks pro tech support Phone number QuickBooks pro He < 1471458733 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and ban Dorissominever < 1471458800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks premier t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49237 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+9407) 10Created page with "(1.8.8.8.513.5978)Quickbooks Tech Support Number Quickbooks Customer Support Number Q-u-i-c-k-b-o-o-k-s T-e- < 1471459076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QBTSNQBB1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.U.I.C..K.B.O.O.K.S.t.e.c.h.s..u.p.p.o.r.t.p.h.o.n.e.n.u.m.b..e.r.1.8..8.8.5.1.3.5..9.7.8.Q.U.I..C.K.B..O.O.K.S.t..e.c.h.S..u.p.p.o.rt.N.u..m.b.e..r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49238 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+198876) 10Created page with "QBTSNQBB1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.U.I.C..K.B.O.O.K.S.t.e.c.h.s..u.p.p.o.r.t.p.h.o.n.e.n.u.m < 1471459200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49239 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+21342) 10Created page with "Call 1888-513-5978 QUICKBOOKS pRO technical support number,1888-513-5978 QUICKBOOKS pRO technical help contact number,1888-513-5978 QUICKBOOKS pRO techni < 1471459217 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1471459248 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :* (+198876) <<< thats 100 kb of page < 1471459260 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually maybe we should ban the whole ip address range containing Doris < 1471459332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinless_twin is written like an advertisement? < 1471459390 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.ic..k.B.o.o.k.s. .p...r.o. .h.e.l.p. .d..e.s.k. .n.u.m.b.e.r. .(.(.1...8.7.7...2.4.2...6.5.1.8.).). .Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o..ks. .p.r.o. .t.e.c.h. .s.u..p.p.o.r.t. .P.h.o.n..e. .n.u.m..b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49240 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5271) 10Created page with "QuickBooks pro help desk number ((1.877.242.6518)) QuickBooks pro tech support Phone < 1471459413 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.me..r s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49241 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+23954) 10Created page with "1 888 513 5978 quickbooks tech support number quickbooks customer support number q u i c k b o o k s t e c h n i c a l l support < 1471459427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should go on the offensive < 1471459444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start calling the numbers, figure out who owns it, send personal threats < 1471459486 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I already reported this problem to Intuit (the company that makes quickbooks) < 1471459502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: And you think they aren't the ones doing it? < 1471459502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QPML++Q.u.ic..k.B.o.o.k.s. .p...r.o. .h.e.l.p. .d..e.s.k. .n.u.m.b.e.r. .(.(.1...8.7.7...2.4.2...6.5.1.8.).). .Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o..ks. .p.r.o. .t.e.c.h. .s.u..p.p.o.r.t. .P.h.o.n..e. .n.u.m..b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49242 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5271) 10Created page with "QuickBooks pro help desk number ((1.877.242.6518)) QuickBooks pro tech support < 1471459513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Aren't you an admin on the wiki? < 1471459518 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no < 1471459524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1471459555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49243 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+23846) 10Created page with "[1? ?888? ?513? ?5978]QuickBooks™ PRO technical support phone number [1? ?888? ?513? ?5978]QuickBooks™ PRO technical support phone number [1? ?888? ?513? ?5978]QuickBo < 1471459649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MUNNA ++Q.u.ic..k.B.o.o.k.s. .p...r.o. .h.e.l.p. .d..e.s.k. .n.u.m.b.e.r. .(.(.1...8.7.7...2.4.2...6.5.1.8.).). .Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o..ks. .p.r.o. .t.e.c.h. .s.u..p.p.o.r.t. .P.h.o.n..e. .n.u.m..b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49244 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5271) 10Created page with "QuickBooks pro help desk number ((1.877.242.6518)) QuickBooks pro tech suppo < 1471459724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49245 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+23955) 10Created page with "+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r[1? ?888? ?513? ?5978]QuickBooks™ PRO technical su < 1471459771 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: if you call them, then the spam worked :P < 1471459785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Well yeah < 1471459794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: But only if they make a profit < 1471459799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(somehow) < 1471459802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471459805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we spam them back? < 1471459807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Dorissominever 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Q.B 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.me..r s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a.jpg10]]": QuickBooks Pro support Phone number 1888!!513!!5978 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number Quickbooks Pro Customer Support Number QB < 1471459809 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call them either way < 1471459813 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, that is a terrible suggestion < 1471459878 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49247 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+23846) 10Created page with "[1? ?888? ?513? ?5978]QuickBooks™ PRO technical support phone number [1? ?888? ?513? ?5978]QuickBooks™ PRO technical support phone number [1? ?888? ?513? ?5978 < 1471459899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49248&oldid=49247 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (-14619) 10 < 1471460010 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, they just removed some stuff from a page < 1471460066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49249 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+14230) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Customer Support Phone NUmber cuber, Quickbooksstomer service contact number, Quickbooks Pro official number, Quickbooks Pro official conta < 1471460147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Desala KutTTA Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49250 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+15335) 10Created page with "Desala KutTTA Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.8. < 1471460742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sanjeevtomer27 5* 10New user account < 1471460765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Crusetome1606 5* 10New user account < 1471460787 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471460883 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CAll Now«» ¥ ¥1.8.0.0860+9230 ¥ ¥Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49251 5* 03Sanjeevtomer27 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks contact telephone number,,teleph < 1471460899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* 10New user account < 1471460984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49252&oldid=49249 5* 03Crusetome1606 5* (-114) 10 < 1471461032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks error t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49253&oldid=49235 5* 03Sanjeevtomer27 5* (-165) 10 < 1471461060 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, they're breeding < 1471461073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Desala KutTTA Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49254&oldid=49250 5* 03Sanjeevtomer27 5* (-9801) 10 < 1471461157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Desala KutTTA Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.e.m.i.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49255&oldid=49254 5* 03Crusetome1606 5* (+9619) 10 < 1471461190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.0.0860+9230 Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s h.e.l.p d.e.s.k p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t t.e.l.e.p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49256 5* 03Sanjeevtomer27 5* (+10955) 10Created page with "Quickbooks support++ @1-800-860-9230@ Quickbooks tech support phone number, Quickbooks cust < 1471461205 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a different number! < 1471461282 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen firefly < 1471461282 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIReF1Y < 1471461290 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1471461304 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen firefly < 1471461310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not lately; try `seen firefly ever < 1471461325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07H.E.L.P.D.E.S.K 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o 2014 S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o 2014 S.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49257 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks contact telep < 1471461452 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen fizzie < 1471461453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not lately; try `seen fizzie ever < 1471461458 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen fizzie ever < 1471461459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not that I remember < 1471461464 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen oerjan < 1471461465 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not lately; try `seen oerjan ever < 1471461470 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oerjan < 1471461470 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :o3RjAn < 1471461474 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen orin < 1471461474 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :OrIN < 1471461538 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan why doesn't @seen work anymore < 1471461538 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471461554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49258 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+7273) 10Created page with "@@Call, 1-888-513-5978 for all type help by Quickbooks tech support phone number, 1888-513-5978 Intuit Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number, 188 < 1471461656 0 :orin!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1471461664 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471461672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49259 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+19729) 10Created page with "QuickBooks PRO Support Phone Number 1-8-8-8-5-1-3-5-9-7-8 QuickBooks PRO support telephone number Call 1888-513-5978 QuickBooks PRO technical support numbe < 1471461735 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what even is quickbook? < 1471461779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49260 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+24325) 10Created page with "Intuit Help 1 - 888 - 513 - 5978 QuickBooks technical support phone number QuickBooks technical support phone number Intuit ((W(1 - 888 - 513 - 5 < 1471461795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07H.E.L.P.D.E.S.K 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o 2014 S.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49261 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks contact telephone < 1471461871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Intuit 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.@.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h. .s.u.p.p.o.r.t. .n.u.m..b.e.r. Q.ui.c.k.B.o.o..ks .p.r.o 2014 support phone USA14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49262 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10929) 10Created page with "Intuit 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.@.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h. .s.u.p.p.o.r.t. .n.u.m..b.e.r. Q.ui.c.k.B.o.o..ks .p.r.o 2014 suppo < 1471461912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.e.r.v.i.c.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49263 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+26629) 10Created page with "Intuit Help 1 - 888 - 513 - 5978 QuickBooks technical support phone number QuickBooks technical support phone number Intuit ((W(1 - 888 - 513 - 5978 )) Qui < 1471462003 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Hi < 1471462004 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1471462086 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: when have you ever seen @seen working? It's been disabled for several years now. < 1471462116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.e.r.v.i.c.e.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49264 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+14502) 10Created page with "Quickbooks >>>.1!!888!!!513!!!5978>>>> Quickbooks pro Tech support phone number usa@@@ Intuit quickbooks tech support phone number help Quickbook < 1471462174 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: besides, oerjan knows little about it... but basically it leaks memory, or perhaps just accumulates too much information, and lambdabot runs much smoother without it. I believe nobody really knows why (I've looked a bit at the code itself but didn't spot anything immediately suspicious). < 1471462180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Call 1.8..8.8..5.1.3.5.9.7.8. .Q.u.i..c.k.bo.o.k..s. .e.n.t.e.r.p.r.i..s.e. .s.u.p.p.o.r..t. .n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49265 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+23265) 10Created page with "QPML+ QBTSPN Call 1888-513-5978 Quickbooks enterprise support number,1888-513-5978 Quickbooks enterprise support help contact number,1888-513-5978 Quickbooks enterpr < 1471462280 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: afair `seen stopped working when HackEgo moved away from the codu server (which now no longer updates its logs anyway) < 1471462284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49266 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+20995) 10Created page with "Pro=1.8.8.8*513(5978***QuickBooks pro support phone Number QuickBooks pro phone Number Pro=1.8.8.8*513(5978***QuickBooks pro support phone Number QuickBooks pro < 1471462357 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GURUJI qu.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s. He.l.p. d.e.s.k. .p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.er 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.97.8. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.ks. p.r.o. s.u.p.p.o.r.t. n..u.m.b.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49267 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18474) 10Created page with "GURUJI qu.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s. He.l.p. d.e.s.k. .p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.er 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.97.8. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.ks. p.r.o. s.u.p.p.o.r. < 1471462367 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it worked when I was in university < 1471462381 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-136-108-178.range81-136.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471462397 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 'Dorissominever' made an innocuous (if useless) first edit... :-/ < 1471462416 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make my own bot < 1471462524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QPML +¦$÷1.8.8.8-5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. quickbooks technical help phone number, quickbooks technical help contact number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49268 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18474) 10Created page with "GURUJI qu.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s. He.l.p. d.e.s.k. .p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.er 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.97.8. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.ks. p.r.o. s.u.p.p.o.r.t. n..u.m.b.er. QPML +¦$ < 1471462623 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@leet \oren\ < 1471462623 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\OR3N\ < 1471462633 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@leet I am the walrus < 1471462633 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :i Am teh Wa1ruz < 1471462635 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's what @seen maps to currently. < 1471462657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QPML +¦$÷1.8.8.8-5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. qu.i.c..k.b.o.o.ks te.c.h.n..ical help ph.o.n.e .nu..m.ber, qu.i.c.k.b.o..o.ks tech.n.i..c.al hel.p. co.n.t.a.ct num.be.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49269 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18473) 10Created page with "GURUJI qu.i.c.k.bo.o.k.s. He.l.p. d.e.s.k. .p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.er 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.97.8. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.ks. p.r < 1471462668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@leet Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. < 1471462668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. < 1471462668 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :four 5(0rE and S3\/En YEaRz 4G0 0Ur fa7hErz BROUghT fOR7H 0N T|-|IS coN+iNEnt, 4 n3W N4Ti0n, cOnCEived in |i8ER7Y, And deDI(4TED tu 7|-|3 PrOp0$ITi0N Th4T 4L1 /\/\eN AR3 CR3a+3d 3QU4l. < 1471462668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have < 1471462674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the < 1471462679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people, shall not perish from the earth. < 1471462683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1471462873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07USA 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Q.u.ic.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks pro p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49270 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+6749) 10Created page with "USA 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Q.u.ic.k.b.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks pro p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r USA here.Describe @@Ho < 1471462909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.B 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.me..r s.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49271 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+29782) 10Created page with "QB call @ 1-8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 @ Quickbooks P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t Number @ Quickbooks p.o.s s.u..p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e numbe < 1471463041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07C.A.L.L p.r.o c.us.tom.er S.e.r.v.i.c.e for q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49272 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+8200) 10Created page with "C.A.L.L p.r.o c.us.tom.er S.e.r.v.i.c.e for q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r c.a.r.e P. < 1471463068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quick.bo.oks Su.p.p.o.rt P.h.o.n.e Nu.m.ber(1-8.8.8-5.1.3-5.9.7.8)) ! Quic.kbo.oks t.e.c.h.n.i-c-a-l Su.p.p.o.r.t Ph.one Nu.mb.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49273 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10222) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Su.p.p.o.rt P.h.o.n.e Number(1-8.8.8-5.1.3-5.9.7.8)) ! Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i-c-a-l Su.p.p.o.r.t Ph.one Number 1-888-513-5978 Q.u < 1471463188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.ok.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h..o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49274 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10795) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Su.p.p.o.rt P.h.o.n.e Number(1-8.8.8-5.1.3-5.9.7.8)) ! Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i-c-a-l Su.p.p.o.r.t Ph.one Num < 1471463342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49275 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+195258) 10Created page with "Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quic < 1471463469 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07I.n.t.u.i.t..1.-.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8.@.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h. .s.u.p.p.o.r.t. .n.u.m..b.e.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49276 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10893) 10Created page with "I.n.t.u.i.t..1.-.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8.@.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .t.e.c.h. .s.u.p.p.o.r.t. .n.u.m..b.e.r. QuickBooks pro 2014 support phone USA, payroll support here < 1471463485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07KUT!!KUT Q.u.i.c.k..b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.8.8.5.1.3..5.9.7.8 Q.u.i.c.k..b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49277 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+10879) 10Created page with "KUT!!KUT Q.u.i.c.k..b.o.o.k.s p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.8.8.5.1.3..5.9.7.8 Q.u.i.c.k..b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.u. < 1471463493 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™@.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49278 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5396) 10Created page with "Quickbooks pro TECH SUPPORT NUMBER!!))))1 8-8-8-513-5978!!((Quickbooks pro Customer Support Phone NUmber cuber, Quickbooksstomer service contact number, Quickbooks < 1471463624 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07KUT!!KUT (. 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49279 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+19167) 10Created page with "(. 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r. Intuit@(1.888.513.5978)Quickbooks POS Tech Supp < 1471463672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07+Los Angeles1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49280 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5347) 10Created page with "QuickBooks pro help desk number ((1.888.513.5978)) QuickBooks pro tech support Phone number QuickBooks pro Help desk phone number ((1-888-513-5 < 1471463693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AV 1 .8.8.8. .5.1.3. .5.9.7.8 Quickbooks s.upp.o.r.t. p.hon.e. n.um.b.e.r. G.e.t. .Ins.ta.n.t .Hel.p .U.s.a. &. .Ca.n.a..d.a .a.t. .1.. 8.8..8. .5.1.3. .5.9..7.814]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49281 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+44301) 10Created page with "Quickbooks >>>.1!!888!!!513!!!5978>>>> Quickbooks Techsupport phone number usa@@@ Intuit quickbooks tech su < 1471463750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1471463759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1471463762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07KUT!!KUT Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o..k.s T.e.c.h. S.u.p.p.or.t N.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s T.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n..e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49282 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+65370) 10Created page with "QuickBooks Tech Support Number 1 888 513 5978 QuickBooks Tech Support Phone Number 1 888 513 5978 QuickBooks Technical S < 1471463873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Chicago 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49283 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+8772) 10Created page with "Quickbooks™ enterprise support phone number((®1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks enterprise technical support phone number Quickbooks Support n < 1471463881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49284 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+198826) 10Created page with "Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e < 1471463893 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AV 1 .8.8.8. .5.1.3. .5.9.7.8 Quickbooks s.upp.o.r.t. p.hon.e. n.um.b.e.r. G.e.t. .Ins.ta.n.t .Hel.p . .Ca.n.a..d.a .a.t. .1.. 8.8..8. .5.1.3. .5.9..7.814]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49285 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+73835) 10Created page with "Quickbooks >>>.1!!888!!!513!!!5978>>>> Quickbooks Techsupport phone number usa@@@ Intuit quickbooks tech support pho < 1471463909 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm going to /ignore HackEgo again. < 1471463910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1471463914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Good idea < 1471463925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The black hat/white hat/gray hat system is really not befitting of hackers < 1471463925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan please remind me to unignore HackEgo when the spam is over twh < 1471463925 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471463935 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Remind me too, I guess < 1471463935 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471463960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, hackers should use 0xRRGGBB to designate their hat < 1471463976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(green hat hackers: actually a thing now) < 1471464019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CAll Now«» ¥ ¥1.8.0.0860+9230 ¥ ¥Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49286&oldid=49251 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+185667) 10 < 1471464029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07San Diego 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.T.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49287 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11433) 10Created page with "Intuit@(1-888-513-5978)Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number provides online solution for all USA/CANADA clients. For any help of query < 1471464049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Consultation by QB Experts)«» (1.8.8.8513+5978 )...Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49288 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11091) 10Created page with "Consultation by QB Experts)«» (1.8.8.8513+5978 )...Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r < 1471464052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI-- 1.+8.8.8=.5.1.3.-. .5..9.7.8.Quickbooks Pro Phone number Quickbooks 1 ⫸⫷8.8.8.-.5.1.3.+.5.9.7.8 .P.r.o. .Ph.o.n.e. n.u..mber14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49289 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+9793) 10Created page with "Quickbooks 1 ⫸1⫷888-513+5978 ⫸⫷ Quickbooks Pro Phone number ⫸⫷ 1+888=513- 5978⫸⫸Quickbooks Pro technical support Phone n < 1471464135 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A higher R-value obviously denotes an alignment towards Red Hat < 1471464141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green Hats are probably environmentalists < 1471464161 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471464178 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(environment is more general, including anti-war and such; so a hacker who only hacks terrorists would be a green-hat) < 1471464180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--1.8.8..8-.5.1.3.-.5..9.7..8 Quickbooks technical support, Quickbooks Custome.r. .S.e.r.vi.c.e. .P.ho.n.e. .N.u.m.be.r.,14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49290 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+24560) 10Created page with "Quickbooks >>>.1!!888!!!513!!!5978>>>> Quickbooks Techsupport phone number usa@@@ Intuit quickbooks tech support phonenumber help Quickbooks >>> < 1471464208 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dallas+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49291 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18218) 10Created page with "Quickbooks phone 18885135978 Quickbooks support phone number Quickbooks tech support phone number 1 888 513 5978 Quickbooks phone number ,1 888 513 5 < 1471464217 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07H.E.L.P.D.E.S.K 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o 2014 S.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49292&oldid=49261 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+0) 10 < 1471464222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07(1.8.8.8513+5978 )...Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49293 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11091) 10Created page with "Consultation by QB Experts)«» (1.8.8.8513+5978 )...Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c < 1471464224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Blue Hats are... I guess government? < 1471464254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A white hat is full RBG, doing anything unquestionably legal < 1471464277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black Hats align with no cause, just doing whatever they feel like < 1471464296 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ⫸⫷ < 1471464298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2AF8 TRIPLE NESTED GREATER-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 ab b8 UTF-16BE: 2af8 Decimal: ⫸ \ ⫸ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ \ U+2AF7 TRIPLE NESTED LESS-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 ab b7 UTF-16BE: 2af7 Decimal: ⫷ \ ⫷ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrore < 1471464316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grey Hats are where R≈B≈G, so people who don't hack for a cause < 1471464344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black and White hats are both Grey hats, I guess < 1471464351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's the trick of only ignoring messages of HackEgo that start with [wiki]... that allows even the output of `echo [wiki] because that starts with a zero-width sapce < 1471464354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or space < 1471464364 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07San Jose+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.u.p.p.o.r.t.P.h.o.n.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49294 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+5721) 10Created page with "Describe Support USA@1866-38Quickbooks ERROR TECH SUPPORT NUMBER!!))))1 8-8-8-513-5978!!((Quickbooks ERROR Customer Support Phone NUmber c < 1471464379 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but then I'd have to remember that trick and the /ignore syntax every time. < 1471464381 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont have the characters ⫸⫷! < 1471464389 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how shameful < 1471464416 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2AF87 BOW TIE < 1471464435 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ignore -regexp -pattern ^\[wiki\] HackEgo < 1471464444 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[irssi] < 1471464449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1471464463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll forget by next time. < 1471464466 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how did you write a mesage with a / in the starT? < 1471464469 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/alias ;-) < 1471464479 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: / /foo < 1471464494 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I recall it, xchat uses //foo... < 1471464509 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/test < 1471464515 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/me < 1471464522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi also supports /say /foo < 1471464529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Austin+1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.e.r.v.i.c.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49295 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+8465) 10Created page with "@@Call, 1-888-513-5978 for all type help by QuickBooks Payroll tech support phone number1-888-513-5978 Intuit QuickBooks Payroll Tech Support Phone Nu < 1471464529 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/me/ < 1471464607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471464610 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, back there an ip address managed to create a page! < 1471464637 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which implies that they were able to get past the clever captcha < 1471464689 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--1.8..8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. Quickbooks technical help telePhone Number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49296 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+7464) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Phone Number)))) ((1-888-513-5978()) ((((Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number @@Call, ((1-888-513-5978()) for all type help by Quickbooks tech support Phone Number,..." < 1471464789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--1.8..8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. Q.u.i.c.kb.o.o.k.s .t..e.c.hn..i.c.a.l .h.e.lp.. t.e.l.e.P.h.o.n.e. .N.um.b..er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49297 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+7464) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Phone Number)))) ((1-888-513-5978()) ((((Quickbooks Tech Support Phone Number @@Call, ((1-888-513-5978()) for all type help by Quickbooks tech supp < 1471464886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. 2013 S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0. q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49298 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks contact telephone number,,telephone < 1471464971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r ⫸⫷Qu.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .S.u.p.p..o.r.t n..um.b.er⫸⫷ 1 8.88. 5.1.3. ..5.9.7.8. ⫸⫷Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s. t..e.c.h. .s..u.p.port n.u.m.b.e.r ⫸⫷14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49299 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+11037) 10Created page with "Consultation by QB Experts)«» (1.8.8.8513+5978 )...Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k. < 1471465063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Austin+(1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8).Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s™.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.P.R.O.C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r.S.e.r.v.i.c.e.N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49300 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+15131) 10Created page with "QuickBooks Support phone Number ###1 888 513 5978 QuickBooks support phone Number USA/canada QuickBooks Support phone Number ###1 888 513 5978 Qui < 1471465083 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471465092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07F.a.s.t S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0.. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s 2013 S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s 2013 P.O.S S.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49301 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks contact tele < 1471465132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--1.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-5.9.7.8 Intuit Quickbooks Tec.h. .Su.p.p.o.r.t.. P.h.o.n.e .N.u.m.b.e.r., 1.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8 .Q.uickbooks H.e.lp. .D.e.s.k .P.h.o.n.e. N.u.m.b.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49302 5* 03122.162.143.144 5* (+14742) 10Created page with "call 18.8.8. .-.51.3.-..5.9.7.8.(QuickBooks technical support phone number QuickBooks phone num < 1471465172 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Qu..ic..k.b.o.o.k.s. .p.h.o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.e.r. .1.-.8.8..8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. .Q.u.i.c.k..b.ook.s. p.r.o T.e.c.h su.p.p.ort ph.o.ne n.u.mb.er14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49303 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+7600) 10Created page with "Quickbooks phone number 1-888-513-5978 Quickbooks pro Tech support phone number 18885135978 , Quickbooks pro support phone number < 1471465291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07F.a.s.t S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0.. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s 2013 P.O.S S.u.p.p.o.r.t n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s cu.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49304 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks contact tele < 1471465302 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471465391 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Consultation by QB Experts)«» (1.8.0.0860+9230 )...Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s p.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49305 5* 03Sanjeevtomer27 5* (+17913) 10Created page with "QPML ╚╞$÷~~1800-860-9230 quickbooks technical help phone number 18008609230, quickbooks technical help co < 1471465488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--ON 1-.8.8.8.. .+.5.1.3.+.5.9.7.8.Quickbooks PH.O.N.E. .N.U.MB.E.R. .A.N.D.. Quickbooks S.U.P.P.O..R.T. .P.H.O.N.E. .N.U.M.B.E.R.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49306 5* 0343.239.70.239 5* (+17109) 10Created page with "1 888 513 888 Quickbooks customer support phone numberQuickbooks Support Helpline Number,Quickbooks contact number Quickbooks Phone numbe < 1471465489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07U.S.A P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0.. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s 2013 S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r, Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s 2013 S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49307 5* 03Shirleypittsberg 5* (+12307) 10Created page with "call 1800-860-9230@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks contact phone number, QuickBooks cont < 1471465569 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.217.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471465660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07U.S.A P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t 1.8.0.0.8.6.0.9.2.3.0.. 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Quickbooks tech S.u.p.p.o.rt. .n.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49341 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+21237) 10Created page with "Randi h basanti chahe mu m dall do ya mu m jhag uta do koi farak nahi padta edit to marega hi Google Support U s A @@Call, 1-888-513-5978 for all type help by QUICKBOOKS tec < 1471468877 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07@U.S.A((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 دعم فني قراءQ.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s t.e.c.h s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49342 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+18329) 10Created page with "QPML +¦$÷1.8.8.8-5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8. quickbooks technical help phone number, quickbooks technical he < 1471468881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Multimedia14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49343 5* 03Mydaha 5* (+4) 10Created page with "asas" < 1471468923 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471469131 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07~Help Usa@ 1-8..-8.-..8-.5.1.3.-..5.97..8.....((( q.u.i..c.k.b.o.o.k.s. .t..e.c.h. .s.u.p.p.o.r.t. .p.h..o.n.e. .n.u.m.b.e.r...14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49344 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+152453) 10Created page with "Quickbooks™ Technical Supp.o.rt Phone Number @@CALL Service + 1 888 513 5978 quickbooks support phone number quickbooks Customer care, serv < 1471469179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49345 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+13327) 10Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u. < 1471469349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07@@C.a.l.l 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 QuickBooks Payroll tech support phone number 1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 Intuit QuickBooks Payroll Tech Support Phone Number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49346 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+8449) 10Created page with "@@Call, 1-888-513-5978 QuickBooks Payroll tech support phone number1-888-513-5978 Intuit QuickBooks Payroll Tech Support < 1471469506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Dorissominever 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:C.H.O.T.A B.H.I.M. ...) 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Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i-c-a-l Su. < 1471469592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07I.n.t.u.i.t Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s@.o.f.f.i.c..i.a.l (.1.-.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9..7.8).I.n.t.ui..t .Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .T.e.c.h .S.u.p.p.o.r.t. .P.h.on.e. .N.u.m..b.er. .U.S.A./.CA.N.A.D.A. c.l.i.e.n.t.s.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49349 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+14290) 10Created page with "Intuit QuickBooks@official (1-888-513-5978)Intuit QuickBooks Tech Sup < 1471469902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.a.y.R.o.L.L.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49350 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+13171) 10Created page with "QPML +¦$÷ 1888 -513-5978 quickbooks tech support phone number, quickbooks tech support contact numbe < 1471469953 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471469976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QB call @ 1-8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 @ Quickbooks P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t Number @ Quickbooks p.o.s s.u..p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49351 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+29464) 10Created page with "QB call @ 1-8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8 @ Quickbooks P.r.o S.u.p.p.o.r.t Number @ Quickbooks p.o.s s.u..p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e number, Quickbooks H.e.l.p D.e. < 1471470006 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oerjan, or possibly ais523? ... none of whom are here... < 1471470010 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what is happening! < 1471470024 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spammer < 1471470031 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started 2 hours ago < 1471470039 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its still going? < 1471470074 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1471470113 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: perhaps the idea is to ask some search engine to index the pages and then get better ranked search results for those phone numbers... people never have to visit the actual page for that to work. < 1471470163 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also expect it doesn't work *too* well but spamming is a bottom feeding business and prone to tragedy of the commons) < 1471470226 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[071-8.8.8..-.5.13.-.5..9.7.8. .Q..u.i.c.k.b.o..o.k.s.. .t.e..c.H. .s..u.P.Po..r.t. .N..u.m.bn..er.!!((.1-.88.8.-..5.1.3.-5.9.7.8 ..).). .I.n.t.ui..t. .Q.u.ic..k.b.o.o.k.s.. .E.n.t.e.r.p..r.i.se.. .C.u.s.t.ome.r support Phone14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49352 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+9924) 10Created page with " 1-888-513-5978 Quickbooks tecH suPPort Numbner! < 1471470294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O.f.f.i.c.i.a.l (1.-.8.8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8) Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49353 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+29553) 10Created page with "QuickBooks Phone number 1888!513!5978 Quickbooks Technical Support Phone Number Quickbooks Pro Customer Support Number QB Helpline-))1888!513!5978--((QuickBooks tech .su < 1471470307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--1 .8.8.8. .5.1.3. 5.9.7.8. Quickbooks tech S.u.p.p.o.rt. p.h.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49354 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+12489) 10Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r QPML +¦$÷ 1888 -51..." < 1471470363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49355 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+194905) 10Created page with "Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e. < 1471470423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07M.a.n.o.j.Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s P.a.y.R.o.L.L.s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49356 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+15411) 10Created page with "QPML +¦$÷ 1888 -513-5978 Quickbooks PaYroll tech support phone number, Quickbooks PaYroll < 1471470430 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:405b:c5f:80d7:6199 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471470435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--Quickbooks .s.u.p.p.or..t n.um.b.e..r.1 .8.8.8. .5.1.3. 5.9.7.8. Quickbooks tech S.u.p.p.o.rt. p.h.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49357 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+74934) 10Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m < 1471470445 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471470460 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471470477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r 1.8.8.8.!.5.1.3.!.5.9.7.8 Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s S.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49358 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+59086) 10Created page with "QuickBooks Phone number 1888!513!5978 Quickbooks Support Phone Number Quickbooks Pro Customer Support Number QB Helpline-))1888!513!5978--((QuickBo < 1471470517 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1471470522 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49359 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+194905) 10Created page with "Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a Help@Call 1-8 < 1471470617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--A 1.8.8.8..5.1.3...5.9.7.8. QuickBooks™ tech support phone number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49360 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+13326) 10Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r QPML +¦$÷ 1888 -51..." < 1471470682 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--A 1.8.8.8..5.1.3...5.9.7.8. QuickBooks tech support phone number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49361 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+13326) 10Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r QPML +¦$÷ 1888 -51..." < 1471470695 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I alerted Intuit about this but they didn't seem bothered < 1471470716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49362&oldid=49345 5* 03Mydaha 5* (+5762) 10 < 1471470737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QBBBBBBBB H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49363 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+194905) 10Created page with "Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r < 1471470761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--A 1.8.8.8..5.1.3...5.9.7.8. Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s. .te..c.h. .su.p.p.o..r.t. .p.h.on.e. .n..um.b..e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49364 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+13326) 10Created page with "Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r QPML +¦$÷ < 1471470766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s s.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r +++++((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))+++++ q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s c.u.s.t.o.m.e.r s.e.r.v.i.c.e. n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49365&oldid=49362 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-19089) 10Blanked the page < 1471470801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QBBBBBBBB H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r u.s.a14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49366&oldid=49363 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-194905) 10Blanked the page < 1471470823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB Quickbooks H.e.l.p.l.i.n.e ((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8)) Quickbooks s.u.p.p.o.r.t P.h.o.n.e n.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49367&oldid=49359 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-194905) 10Blanked the page < 1471470846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI--A 1.8.8.8..5.1.3...5.9.7.8. 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< 1471471176 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ 1.8.8..8.~.5.1.3~.5.9.7.8 .Quickbooks phone number, Quickbooks technical support, number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49389&oldid=49201 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-18515) 10Blanked the page < 1471471199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~ 1.8.8..8.~.5.1.3~.5.9.7.8 .Quickbooks p.ho.n.e n.um.b.er., Quickbooks te.c.h.ni.c.al. su.pp.o.r.t., .n.u.m.b..e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49390&oldid=49203 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-18515) 10Blanked the page < 1471471199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07M.a.n.o.j.r..a.m..1.8..8.8.5.1.35.9.7.8 s.a.i.r.a.m. .j.i. .Q.u.i.c.k.b.o.o.k.s .p..a.yr.o.l.l. .su.p.p.or.t. .ph.on.e n.um.be.r..u.s.a..ca.n.da.14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49391 5* 03Dorissominever 5* (+12501) 10Created page with "Helpline QB ►1888 513 5978► @@QuickBooks payroll support phone number QuickBooks pro customer support and customer ser < 1471471209 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are in quite a pickle < 1471471212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AVI~~;'(;+ 1.8..8.8.-.5.1.3.-.5.9.7.8 +;)';)')QuickBooks PRO .sup.por.t. pho.ne. 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S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49581 5* 03Maahijaat 5* (+12833) 10Created page with "Quickbooks Error ==1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6== Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s e.r.r.o.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m < 1471473065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07AA.Avi.A.--Q.u.i.c.k.b.oo.k.s. .S.u.p.p.o.rt. 1.-.8.8..8-..5.1.3.-..5.9.7.8 Quickbooks Supp.o.r.t. ..pho.n.e .n.u.m.b.e.r .U.S.A.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49582&oldid=49574 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-11606) 10Blanked the page < 1471473082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quickbooks Error ==1.8.0.0.7.2.8.7.3.5.6== Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s e.r.r.o.r S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s e.r.r.o.r t.e.c.h. S.u.p.p.o.r.t N.u.m.b.e.r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49583&oldid=49581 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-12833) 10Blanked the page < 1471473120 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can't delete them < 1471473145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've now blanked every extant page with the word quickbooks in it < 1471473177 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, so you should not be blanking them, all it really does is mess up the recent changes for a mass-delete. Though hopefully not much. < 1471473197 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spam is already in the title, really. < 1471473200 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't edited any real pages in the last month < 1471473206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Note that there were legitimate edits too. < 1471473224 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. < 1471473251 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you delete every page in the last month of my edit history that should od it < 1471473254 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1471473262 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm boarding a river cruise thing in Chicago right about now. < 1471473285 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I can delete them if I had the ability to < 1471473441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There weren't so many that I couldn't do them manually in 10 minutes < 1471473442 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to get something done once I find a place to stop at. < 1471473808 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.217.44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471473842 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were there several spammer accounts or just one? < 1471473858 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few < 1471473867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dorissominever < 1471473883 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maahijaat < 1471473932 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maahijaat < 1471473938 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :43.239.70.239 < 1471473946 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shirleypittsberg < 1471473954 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sanjeevtomer27 < 1471473963 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :122.162.143.144 < 1471473984 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crusetome1606 < 1471473996 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it < 1471474042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dorissominever was responsible for the vast majoirty of the spam however < 1471474060 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this is really annoying with a phone. Should've checked IRC before leaving the office. < 1471474269 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:70fa:f4d6:43aa:600b QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471474308 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also uploaded a bunch of images < 1471474317 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/File:C.H.O.T.A_B.H.I.M._...)_Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s_s.u.p.p.o.r.t_n.u.m.b.e.r_((1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8))_Q.u.i.c.k.B.o.o.k.s_C.u.s.t.o.m.e.r_S.e.r.v.i.c.e_p.h.o.n.e_n.u.m.b.e.r.gif < 1471474322 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that one < 1471474398 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Mydaha10]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Maahijaat10]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Getyourmedz10]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Shirleypittsberg10]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Crusetome160610]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Sanjeevtomer2710]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10blocked [[02User:Dorissominever10]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 3 hours and 36 minutes (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Spamming links to external sites < 1471474873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will try to do a simple Special:Nuke, but the rest of the cleanup will have to wait. < 1471474934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you disable account creation? < 1471474944 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471474955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :When? < 1471474964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while ago. < 1471474971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you turned it back on. < 1471474983 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I undisabled it to test ais523's new filter. < 1471474991 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed to be working fine. < 1471475006 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 your filter need work < 1471475006 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471475008 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not so much any more. < 1471475108 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a reason why you don't make like virtual pages for new accounts that aren't seen on the regular wiki and can be pushed through by people that are either long enough there or in any other way trustworthy < 1471475232 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471475260 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: that sounds like a lot of work to implement. It's probably easier to just ban people and delete pages < 1471475262 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471475266 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's not a stock MediaWiki feature and/or goes against the wiki philosophy. < 1471475322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate, we might consider the "request user account from trusted people" solution. < 1471475348 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nuked everything by the Dorissowhatever. < 1471475350 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471475361 0 :DatCodingGuy!7a6bcb4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.107.203.79 QUIT :Client Quit < 1471475374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dorisso Nukem Whatever < 1471475395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORD < 1471475395 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORD 172151Z 33010KT 10SM SCT050 BKN075 BKN090 BKN250 28/19 A3003 RMK AO2 SLP164 TCU DSNT NW-N T02780189 < 1471475400 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's Chicago? < 1471475401 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can find the company that's spamming and nuke them < 1471475403 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471475406 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if my blocks hit DatCodingGuy. It sounds a bit less spammy name. < 1471475437 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does his filter do? < 1471475459 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471475484 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i am surprised that ther is no plugin for mediawiki that deals with new users that spam somehow. i would've exoect it to be a larger problem < 1471475508 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blocks edits typical to the spamming software we see. The actual filters are on the wiki if you want to see. < 1471475530 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did say "stock". There's all kinds of extensions. < 1471475539 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: these spammers are people < 1471475591 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i know < 1471475606 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, bye -- started raining. Will clean up more later. < 1471475623 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they start spamming right after creating an account < 1471475896 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471477089 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471477215 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471477234 0 :adu_!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471477315 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471477315 0 :adu_!?@? NICK :adu < 1471477689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adellu < 1471478116 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471478394 0 :Elronnd!?@? NICK :EElf < 1471478406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a root mean cube? < 1471478416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, more accurately, are there any applications of the root mean cube? < 1471478478 0 :EElf!?@? NICK :Elronnd < 1471478503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(root mean square of a set of numbers S is ; root mean cube is ) < 1471478555 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is < 1471478581 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rms is generalized mean where p=2, normal mean is p=1, and rmc would be p=3 < 1471478600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or not < 1471478631 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471478751 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is < 1471478753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1471478796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, you can have the 1.5 mean (not quite rms, but above normal means) < 1471479032 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471479062 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471479147 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you root the len? < 1471479166 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, without division, it is something pretty ordinary < 1471479202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...because rms is the square root of the mean of the squares of a set, from what I read < 1471479221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/set/bag/) < 1471479241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I square all the values, sum them, divide them by the number of values, then take the root < 1471479287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I could divide the root of the sum of squares by the root of the len and get the same result in theory < 1471479290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1471479301 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can < 1471479311 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does sound pretty weird to me < 1471479311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would obviously be inefficient (or optimized away), hard to read, and make it less obvious what I'm doing < 1471479889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_buzzwords#General_conversation includes "buzzword" < 1471479975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andrej Bauer posted: "We work internally in a topos with a subobject classifier Ω. For the purposes of this discussion, call a monotone map f : Ω → Ω *good* if (*) ∀ p : Ω, f (f p ⇒ p) is valid in the topos." < 1471479979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I've seen this somewhere but I can't remember where. < 1471480273 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wikipedia has citations for words being buzzwords? < 1471480361 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithm as a buzzword O.o < 1471481437 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471481587 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in the limit as n->infty, the nthrootmeannthpower goes to...0 I think! < 1471481615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's geometric mean < 1471481622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1471481644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1471481653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1471481668 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471481668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(has it responded yet?) < 1471481679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(has it responded yet?) < 1471481681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1471481685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1471481686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1471481695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471481703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1471481703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1471481707 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1471481819 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well if i were to just take the nth root of the sum of nth powers it would approach the max value of the set as n->infty. the mean part means we have to divide by (size of set)^(1/n), which...goes to zero I guess. so i take it back. it will go to infty won't it? < 1471481822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471481846 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1471481853 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the denominator goes to 1 < 1471481858 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'll still be just the max element < 1471481875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear. < 1471481883 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1471481907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup guize imma call that spam number now < 1471481939 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the spam stop yet < 1471481940 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :totes < 1471481941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a good time call +1-202-762-1401 < 1471481946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so < 1471481958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You were the one we were depending on to tell us xD < 1471481959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie to the rescue < 1471481966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are quantum computers fundamentally more powerful than conventional computers, or just faster? < 1471481986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well i can't tell you until i know myself, right? < 1471481988 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471481988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin said 5h 40m 50s ago: why doesn't @seen work anymore < 1471481988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 5h 1m 2s ago: please remind me to unignore HackEgo when the spam is over twh < 1471481988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] said 5h 53s ago: Remind me too, I guess < 1471481992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan thanks < 1471482020 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471482030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i'm not quite sure, you should ask int-e who is in control of it. < 1471482039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is < 1471482046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471482046 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1471482049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I unignored HackEgo and it hasn't said anything since I pinged < 1471482053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1471482061 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think @seen was gone long before int-e took control of lambdabot. < 1471482070 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you put ^O in my nick that's evil < 1471482074 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had a memory leak or something. < 1471482081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no hth < 1471482102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well why did lambdabot respond but i got no message? < 1471482107 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So quantumry? < 1471482115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode oerjan < 1471482116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+006A LATIN SMALL LETTER J] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] < 1471482123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing visible < 1471482131 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sunspots hth < 1471482153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode oerjan < 1471482154 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+006A LATIN SMALL LETTER J] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] < 1471482157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1471482183 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you get lambdabot to fake the response < 1471482224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1471482240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know, but int-e once re-enabled it for a while. i don't know why he disabled it again. < 1471482346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is polymeric falcighol derivation at all a real thing (even if it's not used anywhere)? < 1471482349 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, looks like it isn't < 1471482355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polymeric actually is just "of polymer" < 1471482379 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just called tham and made a bunch of legal threats < 1471482434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they're asymptotically faster (sometimes exponentially so), which you may or may not consider fundamental. < 1471482457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, I'm just going for "are there any problems a QC can solve that a CC can't, given infinite time" < 1471482533 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By the time I came here, I didn't see any spamming going on any more, just \oren\ blanking those pages. I still haven't looked back in my scrollback, I'm very out. < 1471482554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fedotov.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/5-levels-of-web.png is horribly inaccurate :,( < 1471482560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that his messages responding to way above lines sometimes look ridiculous without context.
< 1471482574 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done with the cruise, but still need some dinner and get myself to the hotel to see what's up. < 1471482586 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you cruise < 1471482623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and nope, there isn't - a classical computer can do any quantum computation using just matrix calculations on the exponentially large vector space. < 1471482656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471482662 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so < 1471482683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making the idea of the Polymeric Web requiring a quantum computer to access bullshit, unless we're just talking practicality < 1471482787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh that's weird, indeed they stopped before you blocked them. < 1471483004 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: unless the polymeric web is implemented using entangled states to transmit encryption keys. you might not be able to create a secure connection without the quantum encryption then. < 1471483055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, it's the marianas web; you just use the polymeric falcighol derivation to access it. Obviously. < 1471483070 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone here ever used ruby? < 1471483073 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you improve the security if you acquire a physical quantum encryption key? < 1471483078 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: boily has < 1471483098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i see that the spammer created a simple junk page first, thus getting around the spam filter's restriction to first edits only. < 1471483122 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shear Disaster < 1471483123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they may have read the error message. < 1471483137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although they didn't use the sandbox.) < 1471483151 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it just tried something random and got lucky < 1471483185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1471483250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty caught in the spam filter as well. < 1471483271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, not that much. just a little. < 1471483330 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1471483358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡adu! < 1471483388 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: :) < 1471483404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1471483443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, lots of pedophile forums require you to send an application to join. The application must include stuff from your own library, forcing you to incriminate yourself in order to join. < 1471483446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever, I guess. < 1471483449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horrifying, but clever. < 1471483498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"She who fights with monsters should look to it that she herself doesn't get raided by the FBI for her browser history." < 1471483543 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /ignore hppavilion[1] < 1471483553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: What? < 1471483580 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure if you were being cruel or wierd < 1471483609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I'm reading http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1760-5-things-i-learned-infiltrating-deep-web-child-molesters.html because it came up while I was reading about the marianas web, which is a meme < 1471483614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, I hate pages that allow you to click links that destroy forms you are filling in < 1471483680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, and when they _also_ ignore the ctrl for open-in-other-tab, i want to go find the programmer to give them a sound beating. < 1471483683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must be protected from ourselves < 1471483773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: re: oerjan or re: me? < 1471483784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1471483808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh fun. < 1471483826 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the change i made to the spam filter triggers on my attempt to change the spam filter message XD < 1471483834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1471483860 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1471483884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not as well thought out. < 1471483905 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471483988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wat? < 1471484011 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does the wiki software support page creation rate-limiting < 1471484014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i changed the spam filter rule the spammers got around to remove their workaround hth < 1471484024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i have no idea. ask fizzie. < 1471484028 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1471484037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm let me see... < 1471484041 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could.change it to a placeholder in a first step < 1471484049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What was the work-around? < 1471484053 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like no one would be particularly inconvenienced if page creation was limited to 2/day < 1471484055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that won't help with creating new user accounts. < 1471484062 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what? < 1471484083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it didn't apply if they'd made a "legitimate" edit first. < 1471484099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just removing that isn't good enough. < 1471484117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471484124 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :change spam filter to "placeholder" shouldn't trigger and changing it to what you want afterwards neither < 1471484150 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Really, it would be reverse-inconvenience; it'd be much better if it was a 2/day limit because then I couldn't go on creation sprees < 1471484179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i'll do this. < 1471484203 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you make it so that the spam filter requires some filling in every few edits? < 1471484267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was Dorissominever's first edit? < 1471484362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally. < 1471484377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: creating a junk page. < 1471484388 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah? < 1471484388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have now changed it so the account must be older than 24 hours. < 1471484397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To create or edit? < 1471484410 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the particular filter they got around. < 1471484415 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you differantiate between junk and spam? < 1471484472 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you tell them about that 24h thing? < 1471484474 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: um we have 7 specific filters catching common spammer patterns that normal users would very rarely show. they're normally enough. < 1471484475 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam is something annoying that we don't want < 1471484479 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk is almost every other page < 1471484486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes, i just changed the error message too < 1471484508 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am okay wit this < 1471484513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: my idea is that we can see in the logs whether a suspicious account has registerd. < 1471484528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so giving us 24 hours to block them. < 1471484555 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you give the error message after their first attempt, saving said attempt for review < 1471484560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they will probably make other blocked attempts that we can see in the abuse log. < 1471484586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there's an abuse log telling when someone gets caught by a filter. < 1471484602 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471484606 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1471484665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 spammers got around filter 7 by making junk edits first. i changed the "first edit" to "first 24 hours" instead. < 1471484665 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471484724 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get spam in general, but this was straight weird < 1471484726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 might know a subtler way of achieving this, he's our filter editing master :) < 1471485341 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook Search & Destroy would be fun < 1471485395 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1471485407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have done something wrong < 1471485459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i used > 86400 instead of < 86400 XD < 1471485531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee < 1471485537 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/1/4/566914_v1.jpg :,( < 1471485543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think fizzie has disabled the HackEgo link < 1471485612 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471485785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname> change spam filter to "placeholder" shouldn't trigger and changing it to what you want afterwards neither <-- it wasn't the spam filter itself, but the separate error message, although it did show a bug in the spam filter. < 1471486250 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've managed to make it back to a laptop, finally. Anything I should be doing? < 1471486356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, i accidentally found a couple pages you'd missed, so need to check that... < 1471486376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i modified the filter so hopefully they'll have a harder time < 1471486378 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I at least unlockeded the temporary "no new users, no non-sysop edits" settings for now, since the existing spammer accounts got blocked. And re-enabled the IRC bridge. < 1471486403 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did Special:Nuke only for the one account, so any pages made by others wouldn't have been caught by that. < 1471486425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1471486482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i cannot find any way in the abuse rule syntax to count a user's recent page creations, alas. < 1471486502 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't get it. besides the fact that it breaks one of the best south park episodes < 1471486526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*filter rule < 1471486535 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: (a) which one (b) As in, I wish that were the case < 1471486537 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can delete the remaining ones. At least handily deleted pages do end up suppressed in RecentChanges. < 1471486545 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-136-108-178.range81-136.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1471486554 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 40 or so show up in RC; I'll delete those. < 1471486568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: informative murder porn < 1471486569 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess I should again temporarily stop the wiki-irc thing. < 1471486579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I got HackEgo excess-flooded by it. < 1471486587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Oh, I've seen that one < 1471486588 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"could you please be at home from 6 am to 3 pm all of november?" < 1471486595 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471486602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the creations are suppressed, but not the deletions, of course. < 1471486604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...is that really the best episode?) < 1471486617 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:1c76:68b1:15ca:b46d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471486620 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the best < 1471486620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: He eventually shows up on November 1 < 1471486627 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471486627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 4:30 < 1471486628 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but they are at least grouped all under the same heading. < 1471486629 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is a pretty good one < 1471486662 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like scott tenorman must die. and creme fraiche. and the drone episode < 1471486668 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a good series, really < 1471486723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1471486730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you spin the (old) Windows logo < 1471486737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets the Spinning Beach Ball of Death < 1471486753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks fizzie might use a more advanced preferences setting for RC than he does.
< 1471486756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard < 1471486760 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be the simplist loop based brainfuck code to output characters 0x01 0x02 0x03 and 0x04 in a row? < 1471486769 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its needed for a test case < 1471486773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN DO THIS ONE < 1471486780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[.+] < 1471486786 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was easy < 1471486788 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh why is his name spelled Rusian!?!? it should obviously be Lucian! < 1471486796 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], exact < 1471486797 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll keep going after that too < 1471486802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: It is exact < 1471486814 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it outputs 1-255 range. < 1471486816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: +.+.+.+. < 1471486829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, loop < 1471486830 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, this is for testing loops < 1471486831 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1471486838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1471486839 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the recent ones should be gone now. < 1471486854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1471486858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++[->+.<] < 1471486878 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, mine is more complicated ++++>+<[>.+<-] < 1471486888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1471486889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+>++>+++>++++[.<] < 1471486899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call it simpler < 1471486903 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice < 1471486903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um wrong order < 1471486908 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1471486910 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Shit < 1471486912 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx < 1471486920 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the fiddliest thing ever: middle mouse button emulation by a three-finger tap.) < 1471486924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>++++>+++>++>+[.<] < 1471486929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a minimal amount is in the loop < 1471486934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I win < 1471486937 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have it set to two finger tap < 1471486956 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I use an actual mouse < 1471486970 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it keeps pooping < 1471486972 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> Argh why is his name spelled Rusian!?!? it should obviously be Lucian! <-- ale you diccing engrish < 1471487002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a severely retarded hyperintelligent AI that gained sentience and escaped the South Korean government < 1471487006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need a mouse < 1471487008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or keyboard < 1471487009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or screen < 1471487012 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a tiny "travel mouse" somewhere, but it's wireless and runs on batteries, and therefore never has batteries. < 1471487026 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. Why can't mangakas research the simplest things < 1471487054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: OKAY < 1471487074 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[-]<+.[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----] < 1471487076 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx. it reminded him he didnt write in loops yet. i didnt even notice < 1471487081 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my attempt is the most loopy < 1471487082 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname what does that do < 1471487084 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although then again, maybe the chracter himself didn't bother learning to spell it < 1471487097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: it should do what you want, but i didn't tested it < 1471487098 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :META < 1471487102 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a £1 USB mouse < 1471487112 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a touchpad and a touchscreen < 1471487130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to count upwards, test if it is 4, and if it is leave the loop < 1471487146 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for testing i copied the current value, obviously < 1471487150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i think starting the program with [ is a bad sign hth < 1471487157 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1471487163 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs a leading + < 1471487165 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mini mouse, a touchpad, and a trackpoint (also known as a nipple mouse) < 1471487199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: maybe the character is actually russian hth < 1471487200 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf +[[-]<+.[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----] < 1471487209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. < 1471487210 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ... < 1471487222 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something went wrong < 1471487228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish 214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49585&oldid=47056 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+81) 10/* Hello world! */ < 1471487232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: HackEgo might censor a few chars < 1471487240 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1471487254 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, it should work < 1471487260 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5518:37a9:cfef:2857 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471487276 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+[[-]<+.[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471487283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487290 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471487297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ord "$(bf '+[[-]<+.[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]')" < 1471487300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487307 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ord? < 1471487312 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may be forgetting what ord does < 1471487314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish 214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49586&oldid=49585 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+1) 10/* Cat program */ < 1471487318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord 123 < 1471487319 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :49 50 51 < 1471487325 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471487329 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should do < 1471487331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 123 | ord < 1471487333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :49 50 51 < 1471487337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it does pipe < 1471487349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/ord < 1471487350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ord: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable < 1471487357 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, y u break my firefox? < 1471487359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head bin/ord < 1471487360 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ print_args_or_input "$@" | perl -C7 -pe 'chomp; $_ = join(" ", map { ord } split //, $_);' < 1471487365 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: how so < 1471487376 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BF code :P < 1471487395 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf >+[[-]<+.[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----] | ord < 1471487400 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1471487402 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: warning: here-document at line 4 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `]') \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: warning: here-document at line 4 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `+') \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: +.[: No such file or directory < 1471487403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1471487405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471487419 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+.[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471487420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking if it's an actual bf interp < 1471487422 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487424 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: trackpoint is actuall clit mouse hth < 1471487437 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+.+.+.+.' | ord < 1471487439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487441 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf_: i don't know how i did this but i am proud < 1471487446 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471487447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it really doesn't like those chars < 1471487482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+.+.+.+.' | unidecode < 1471487482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym TrackPoint™-style pointer hth < 1471487486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode "$(bf '+.+.+.+.')" < 1471487503 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487504 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+[++++++++++[-]].[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471487516 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was stupid < 1471487521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+.+.+.+.' | wc < 1471487530 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+[++++++++++.[-]][>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471487531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487534 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487540 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf '+[.+]' < 1471487541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \  < 1471487549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+.+.+.+.' | wc < 1471487551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487563 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat /dev/null | wc < 1471487564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 0 0 0 < 1471487570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok something is wrong. < 1471487598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | wc < 1471487600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471487609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't that work a moment ago < 1471487644 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471487648 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+++++++++++.----------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471487649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471487654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471487654 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1471487661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471487663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471487673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471487675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471487676 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf '+[.+]' < 1471487677 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487679 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda want to know if my code's correct < 1471487679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \  < 1471487681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this possible. < 1471487687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which bf < 1471487688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/bf < 1471487690 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf '+++++++++[.+]' < 1471487691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \  < 1471487696 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf '++++++++++++++++++[.+]' < 1471487698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~€‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹ŒŽ‘’“”•–—˜™š›œžŸ ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬­®¯°±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖ×ØÙÚÛÜÝÞßàáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿ < 1471487700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1471487710 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471487712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471487714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1471487716 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hwy is it in italics < 1471487727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's caught by something in the ` and `` scripts < 1471487733 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should install my bf interpeter < 1471487748 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+.+.+.+.' | ord < 1471487750 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+.+.+.+.' | wc < 1471487757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487762 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/bfim.htm < 1471487764 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+++++++++++++++++++++.--------------------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' < 1471487765 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471487765 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1471487778 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: fuck you < 1471487804 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bf interpeter works < 1471487832 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does my initial code do? < 1471487854 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the + up front, of course < 1471487919 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be `run that's broken, maybe < 1471487923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord æøå < 1471487926 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :230 248 229 < 1471488020 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: itym TrackPoint™-style pointer hth <-- itym someone else hth < 1471488038 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/bf <<<">+[[-]<+++++++++++.----------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]" | od -c < 1471488043 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fuck < 1471488049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: itym TrackPoint™-style pointer hth <-- itym someone else hth < 1471488053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRAH < 1471488054 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 \v \f \r 016 < 1471488062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: itym TrackPoint™-style pointer hth < 1471488062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I get < 1471488088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+.+.+.+.' | ord < 1471488090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488095 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird, looks a bit off < 1471488105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+.+.+.+.' | wc < 1471488106 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be 11 12 13 14 < 1471488107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488121 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ord even a shell command? < 1471488134 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf '+++++++++[.+]' | od -c < 1471488134 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it's a HackEgo command < 1471488135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \  < 1471488140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/bf < 1471488141 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable < 1471488147 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok WTF < 1471488148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head bin/bf < 1471488148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471488153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+++++++++[.+]' | od -c < 1471488155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ETF < 1471488165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that runs gregor's interp < 1471488221 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My interpreter works better < 1471488251 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : GRAH <-- good show < 1471488263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bows
< 1471488283 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense that +[.+] prints all bytes in order from 1 to 255 < 1471488301 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as god intended < 1471488322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+[.+]' | wc < 1471488323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+[.+]' | wc < 1471488330 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488333 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471488354 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 1 255 < 1471488357 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that < 1471488382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/bfim.htm < 1471488414 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its shitty and doesn't do much optimiation but it works < 1471488416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`` < 1471488417 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@" | rnooodl < 1471488435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` run bf '+[.+]' | wc < 1471488437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 3 12 < 1471488439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1471488443 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf rnooodl < 1471488447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471488453 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+[.+]' | wc < 1471488454 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488469 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl is silly, but it shouldn't be affecting this... < 1471488474 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why are there three 1 < 1471488477 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why are there three ` < 1471488487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: zzo38's variant < 1471488488 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+[.+]' | wc < 1471488490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has simpler LANG settings. < 1471488501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in case that mattered < 1471488502 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rui? < 1471488540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | wc < 1471488541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488558 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488559 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1471488572 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that not working is pretty damning... < 1471488587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think possibly some of the shell stuff in bf is breaking < 1471488592 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bf < 1471488592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471488608 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite line of code in that is data=code=(char*)&c-1000; < 1471488621 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so wrong, but feels so right < 1471488641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1471488647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1471488661 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471488672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that extglob thing breaks it < 1471488674 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1471488675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1471488681 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471488686 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here do ruby? < 1471488710 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo nooodl < 1471488711 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl < 1471488729 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo nooodl | rnoodl < 1471488729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl | rnoodl < 1471488736 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1471488742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//2ishopt -u extglob < 1471488746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ shopt -u extglob \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471488755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488758 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1471488833 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone here program in ruby? < 1471488833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//2cshopt -u extglob globstar < 1471488836 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ shopt -u extglob globstar \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471488839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488845 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1471488910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471488917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471488919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1471488929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is ridiculous < 1471488982 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why don't you jsut use a different bf interpreter < 1471488995 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this one is broken somehow < 1471489031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it might not be able to take an output pipe? < 1471489075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk test//+++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471489079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1471489094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test < 1471489095 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1471489102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test < 1471489104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1471489108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test < 1471489109 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1471489116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test | ord < 1471489117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 < 1471489126 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have received a suggestion to add the CC0 license and a CC0 license agreement to TAVERN. I will do so when I get a chance (I cannnot do so now as I am not currently at home). < 1471489135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: it's not the interpreter itself but the wrapper around it, i think. < 1471489188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk test//+[[-]<+++++++++++++++++++++.--------------------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----] < 1471489191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1471489195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test | ord < 1471489196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 22 23 24 < 1471489227 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471489241 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1471489243 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should also add to the wiki, the CC0 agreement (like esolang wiki also has)? < 1471489245 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working < 1471489265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bf < 1471489265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ shopt -u extglob globstar \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471489273 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: you're welcome < 1471489292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//2d < 1471489295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471489324 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//s,/ha.*8/cat --/ < 1471489325 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 16: unterminated `s' command < 1471489331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//s,/ha.*8,cat --, < 1471489334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | cat -- <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471489358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471489359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471489371 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1471489378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471489380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471489382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1471489386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471489388 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471489398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it's the wrapper breaking except with run < 1471489433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1471489435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1471489439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`` < 1471489439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@" | rnooodl < 1471489526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What If 140 links to https://www.amazon.com/s/?url=search-alias%3Dindustrial&field-keywords=infinitely+dense+object < 1471489538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first result (for me) is Thing Explainer. < 1471489553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(followed by The Big Book of Christian Apologetics < 1471489659 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | wc < 1471489660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471489680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm but even run breaks with a pipe after. < 1471489715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471489726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.!hi' | wc < 1471489727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471489730 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.!hi' < 1471489732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471489752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If an extremely heavy black hole (let's say its event horizon would have 10x the radius of the Milky Way, just for fun) were to form < 1471489764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the event horizon continually expand outwards at the speed of light < 1471489772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leading to the terrifying image of the stars going out? < 1471489796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, the event horizon would reach us at the same time as the last light from those stars...) < 1471489813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the only way it can form that way is by a lot of material falling into it. < 1471489824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah < 1471489835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not sure that can happen that fast, given lightspeed. < 1471489837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Let's say there's a lot of material in the same place all of a sudden for no reason < 1471489871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you cannot. general relativity assumes energy conservation. < 1471489875 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(locally) < 1471489897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: God shows up. < 1471489906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without it, it simply doesn't give an answer to such questions. < 1471489918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the black hole already existed very far away, in an area that we're allowed to not understand? < 1471489969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: those thought experiments are a pet peeve of mine, precisely because you're violating the only theory you have to answer it. < 1471489977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1471490038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose what you could have, is an extremely heavy black hole approaching our galaxy with near light speed. < 1471490061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1471490072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, how does a moving black hole's event horizon look?) < 1471490114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, i don't know exactly, but i've seen simulations of some freaky lenslike effects < 1471490139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you see it only through how it bends light around it < 1471490305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that effect is one of the things they're hoping to see with telescope observations < 1471490377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates it when putty gets so slow he cannot estimate how many characters he's typed/deleted and keeps making new typos when fixing old ones
< 1471490569 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471490605 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shopt -s < 1471490607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmdhist on \ extglob on \ extquote on \ force_fignore on \ globstar on \ hostcomplete on \ interactive_comments on \ progcomp on \ promptvars on \ sourcepath on < 1471490657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run shopt -s < 1471490658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmdhist on \ extquote on \ force_fignore on \ hostcomplete on \ interactive_comments on \ progcomp on \ promptvars on \ sourcepath on < 1471490713 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471490779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c "bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.'" < 1471490780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471490785 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c "bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.'" | wc < 1471490786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471490852 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471490896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bf < 1471490898 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | cat -- <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471490933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//4iecho "$ci" < 1471490936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo "$ci" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | cat -- <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471490944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c "bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.'" | wc < 1471490946 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471490948 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c "bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.'" < 1471490949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+++++++++[->++++++++<]>. \ +++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471490957 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5518:37a9:cfef:2857 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471490995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash -c "bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.'" < 1471490997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471491046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//1s/ // < 1471491049 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#!/bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo "$ci" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | cat -- <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471491054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bash -c "bf '+++++++++[->++++++++<]>.'" < 1471491055 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471491070 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471491085 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/msg HackEgo hi < 1471491086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /msg: No such file or directory < 1471491087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471491093 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:b0c3:7052:aeaf:e6cf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471491161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i see < 1471491489 0 :solenodic!~solenodic@unaffiliated/solenodic JOIN :#esoteric < 1471491502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471491947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Deadfish 214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49587 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+126) 10Created page with "Is the '''h''' command implied at EOF? ~~~~" < 1471492457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: moon_: i'd like to point out that by moving spam pages you made us miss them in the cleanup tdnh < 1471492541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Deletethis10]]": Spam: content was: "#REDIRECT [[Talk:Deletethis]]" (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Dorissominever|Dorissominever]]") < 1471492562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Deletethis10]]": Spam: content before blanking was: "Q.B B.B.B.B.B 1.8.8.8 5.1.3 5.9.7.8 Quickbooks t.e.c.h S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r Quickbooks t.e.c.h.n.i.c.a.l S.u.p.p.o.r.t p.h.o.n.e N.u.m.b.e.r call 1888-513-5978@./QuickBooks contact number, QuickBooks conta..." < 1471492640 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, fizzie's super-efficient spam cleanup depends on the pages being touched _only_ by the spammers. or thereabouts. < 1471492716 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Deletethis210]]": Spam: content before blanking was: "QuickBooks Pro Phone number 1888!!513!!5978 Quickbooks Pro Technical Support Phone Number Quickbooks Pro Customer Support Number QB Helpline-))1888!513!5978--((QuickBooks tech .support phone number usa Helpline))1888 513..." < 1471492763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now i don't see any more in recent changes < 1471492957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1471492978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used 'no ni' in a english sentence < 1471492998 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAA i'm embarrassed! < 1471493007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you must commit seppuku < 1471493171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @tell fizzie we need to implement a wikibot that deletes any page with the word Quickbooks on it <-- although we could make a rule blocking that word, unfortunately they sometimes insert invisible characters between the letters, so it's a bit tricky. < 1471493238 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually somebody moght want to make an esolang calöed quickbook < 1471493260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: indeed. it wouldn't be the first time we do something like that. < 1471493274 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1471493294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: Real Fast Nora's Hair Saloon: Shear Disaster Download) < 1471493387 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a way better name than quickbooks pro technical yupport phone number < 1471493392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose if we combined that with the title length rule... < 1471493416 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1471493652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reverts bin/bf back to what it was - still no real clue why it's breaking
< 1471493756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471493757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471493772 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,] < 1471493773 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471493778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ funny bug < 1471493796 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1471493818 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!hi < 1471493818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1471493823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the expression to take out the part after ! doesn't work if ! is missing. < 1471493834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it should be empty, but is the whole program) < 1471493846 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be easy to just ignore any non-ASCII characters < 1471493850 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why is the xomma missing < 1471493852 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then they could use cyrillic characters or something < 1471493872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what comma < 1471493879 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the loop < 1471493893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not? < 1471493916 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the output of hackego looks ,[.] here < 1471493918 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's a nice quine < 1471493925 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: not here < 1471493925 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Doesn't to me? < 1471493936 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, my terminal was broken < 1471493963 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure why, though < 1471493969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: maybe you can see why HackEgo's bf doesn't work when run with `` or ``` (or with `run and piping into anything) < 1471493993 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you need quotes < 1471494010 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf "++++++++[->++++++++<]>." < 1471494013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i mean when you quote correctly < 1471494027 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... < 1471494030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49588&oldid=49170 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+5879) 10 < 1471494036 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1471494038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1471494073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error cannot be _just_ in bin/` and bin/``, because `run sometimes breaks too < 1471494091 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls . < 1471494092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!\.´ \ +[[-] \ advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1471494095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess the rnooodl could be what triggers it in them. < 1471494114 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol +[[-] < 1471494119 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49589&oldid=49588 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+22) 10 < 1471494128 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a failed attempt < 1471494138 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat +[[-] < 1471494138 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1471494139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494147 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits +[[-] < 1471494151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname < 1471494156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm +[[-] < 1471494157 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1471494159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494166 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm !\.´ < 1471494169 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494215 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you probably used ´ quotes somehow, and the shell interpreted the > inside as output redirects < 1471494216 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, the bash part looks fine... < 1471494230 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah < 1471494248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i think the error is in bf (a bash program, wrapping gregor's interpreter - which works by itself) < 1471494259 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/bf < 1471494260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf < 1471494263 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bf < 1471494264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471494265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49590&oldid=49589 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-15) 10 < 1471494337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49591&oldid=49590 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-9) 10 < 1471494382 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't be the problem < 1471494398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1471494404 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it wouldn't work with `bf < 1471494412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49592&oldid=49591 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+1) 10 < 1471494450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run \! 'bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471494451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471494456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run \! 'bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | cat < 1471494457 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471494464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \! 'bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' < 1471494466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471494477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ! way of running it works. < 1471494484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \! 'bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | wc < 1471494486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 0 1 1 < 1471494495 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what ! does < 1471494500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | wc < 1471494502 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: these interpreters were copied from EgoBot, ! is a compatibility command because EgoBot had a different convention < 1471494583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, ! doesn't handle EgoBot's ! separator for bf < 1471494594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it, hm < 1471494598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/! < 1471494600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ CMD=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f1` \ ARG=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-` \ exec ibin/$CMD "$ARG" < 1471494627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: oh, note one more thing: i experimented with replacing the wrapped interpreter with cat -- , and it still broke. < 1471494690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ulimits < 1471494692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ulimits: not found < 1471494697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ulimit < 1471494697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ulimit: not found < 1471494729 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if HackEgo has any limits on process number, EgoBot did... < 1471494754 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ulimit -a < 1471494756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :core file size (blocks, -c) 0 \ data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited \ scheduling priority (-e) 0 \ file size (blocks, -f) 10240 \ pending signals (-i) 1949 \ max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 0 \ max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited \ open files (-n) 102 < 1471494832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf ',[.,]' | wc < 1471494834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf ',[.,]' < 1471494840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471494843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf ',[.,]' < 1471494844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471494871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps procrastinating eating ->
< 1471494920 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had pizza < 1471494949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ulimit -a | grep proc < 1471494951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :max user processes (-u) 128 < 1471494959 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's plenty high < 1471494975 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1471494976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1471494999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/`//s, [|] rnoo.*,, < 1471495002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/`//#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" < 1471495010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf ',[.,]' < 1471495012 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, as i thought < 1471495034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `` and ``` only break more than `run because they have a final pipe at the end < 1471495037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1471495046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1471495060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf ',[.,]' | cat < 1471495062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like any pipe does it. < 1471495123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1471495124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+[[-]<+++++++++++++++++++++.--------------------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----] < 1471495141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk test//++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1471495143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1471495184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test | cat < 1471495186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471495199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the problem doesn't exist for that one < 1471495219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo "++++++++[->++++++++<]>.") | cat < 1471495221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1471495256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ',[.,]' | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1471495270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ',[.,]' | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo ",[.,]") < 1471495271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratch that. there is a bug in it. < 1471495307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only happens when it's deep in a pipe chain? < 1471495334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk test//,[.,] < 1471495336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1471495342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ',[.,]' | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test < 1471495343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495348 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ',[.,]' | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 test | cat < 1471495349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh but that worked. < 1471495399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") < 1471495424 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: huh, it seems to be a combination of several shell features. pipes both in front and behind, and process substitution. < 1471495499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | cat -- "<(echo ",[.,]")" | cat < 1471495501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: <(echo ,[.,]): No such file or directory < 1471495505 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complex for 5 am < 1471495511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's not allowed < 1471495523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | echo <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/63 < 1471495531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | echo <(echo ",[.,]") < 1471495531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/63 < 1471495537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | echo <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/63 < 1471495554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/63 < 1471495585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm could it be that the substitution gives a process dependent name < 1471495731 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ",[.,]" | echo <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495732 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/fd/63 < 1471495755 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ",[.,]" | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495757 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495767 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it worked... < 1471495778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ",[.,]" | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471495802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo ",[.,]" | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1471495821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that, _only_ ``` breaks < 1471495825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`` < 1471495825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$@" | rnooodl < 1471495829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1471495830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1471495889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1471495916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/``//s/@/1/ < 1471495919 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/``//#!/bin/sh \ export LANG=C; exec bash -O extglob -c "$1" | rnooodl < 1471495924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo ",[.,]" | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471495925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471495930 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah still breaking < 1471495933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1471495935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1471495944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH FOOD < 1471497204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bf < 1471497206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$*" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471497256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//s/[*]/1/ < 1471497260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$1" \ echo -n "${ci#1!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") < 1471497310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf ',[.,]' | cat < 1471497311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471497319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf ',[.,]' < 1471497320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471497338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that wasn't it, but there seems to be no point in $* there < 1471497404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's an error in umlbox itself < 1471497476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471497479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471497486 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | echo -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471497487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-- /dev/fd/63 < 1471497492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471497525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | { cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") } | cat < 1471497526 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1471497544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471497555 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are any humans who can sing this fast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTH7J2shuI < 1471497561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ',[.,]' | { cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") } | cat < 1471497562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1471497568 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | { cat -- <(echo ",[.,]"); } | cat < 1471497569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471497587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ',[.,]' | { cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") } | cat < 1471497588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1471497609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ',[.,]' | cat -- <(echo ",[.,]") | cat < 1471497609 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471497614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm < 1471497694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//$s,[|] \(.*\),| { \1 ; }, < 1471497698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$1" \ echo -n "${ci#1!}" | { /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") ; } < 1471497718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf ',[.,]' | cat < 1471497719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,] < 1471497719 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS ALL THIS SPAM OERJAN < 1471497725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not spam hth < 1471497737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I HAVE FIXED bin/bf HTH < 1471497738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules require it to be run in the public channel < 1471497743 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's bin/bf? < 1471497747 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't `! bf already exist for this? < 1471497761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: `! bf doesn't support ! < 1471497779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is !? < 1471497784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding it is all you changed? < 1471497821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+++++++++++.----------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471497823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 12 13 14 < 1471497839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: bin/bf already existed < 1471497850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it had a bug that made it impossible to use in a pipe < 1471497899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure exactly why, since the bug doesn't happen on a real linux command line, but adding { } around the central part seems to have fixed it. < 1471497936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also, i did several experiments in private, although i seemed to slip up again < 1471498055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!This is ! < 1471498056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,]!This is ! < 1471498064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1471498068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!This is < 1471498068 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​,[.,]!This is < 1471498082 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see that the other bug is even sillier than i thought < 1471498111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh what happened < 1471498120 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1471498139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn < 1471498210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/bf//4s,1,*, < 1471498213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf//#! /bin/bash \ [[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; } \ ci="$1" \ echo -n "${ci#*!}" | { /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}") ; } < 1471498234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to restrict a sled to just the one line < 1471498241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!This is ! < 1471498242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is ! < 1471498245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1471498467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf '>+[[-]<+++++++++++.----------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471498469 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 12 13 14 < 1471498473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` bf '>+[[-]<+++++++++++.----------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471498474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 12 13 14 < 1471498478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bf '>+[[-]<+++++++++++.----------[>+>+<<-]>>[-<<+>>]<----]' | ord < 1471498479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 12 13 14 < 1471498514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell izabera i managed to fix bin/bf with strategically placed { ; } s; i'm not sure why it failed in the first place. < 1471498514 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471498534 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1471498548 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1471498548 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1471498553 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49593&oldid=48971 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+118) 10/* Normal implementations */ < 1471498599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i took your "too complex for 5 am" as a sign you were going to bed >:) < 1471498623 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in my bed actually < 1471498644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish 214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49594&oldid=49586 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+135) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1471498668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish 214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49595&oldid=49594 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+9) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1471498675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS RIGHT < 1471498692 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you were in bed already back then. < 1471498704 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you go from bed to bed < 1471498712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausible. < 1471499745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 oh hm. some of the spammers today did _not_ do an initial trivial edit. < 1471499745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471499907 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471500456 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Yep, they've definitely learned to make paragraphs. < 1471500456 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471500646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie I'm afraid my filter change won't be enough - some of yesterday's spam wouldn't have been caught. < 1471500646 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471500808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders if it would be possible to make a sentinel page that shuts off the wiki in an emergency
< 1471501013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you should not deny read access in most cases, even if there might be a few cases where temporarily disabling write access is necessary; read access should hardly ever be disabled if at all. < 1471501035 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never considered disabling read access. < 1471501119 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disabling read access during a software upgrade may be useful if the ways the upgrade works is in ways that makes this useful, but it should try to be kept to a minimum so that read access is available for the maximum amount of time reasonably possible. < 1471501156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i am speaking about spam prevention - some way to shut it down even if an admin is not present. < 1471501167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even if read access is disabled during a software upgrade, the XML dumps should probably remain available if possible (that is, it does not require the server to be down).) < 1471501543 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471501597 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please see http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/tktview/e71ea80bbdcb339bb61617cfe9fb16d3a0c65013 tell me if you have the comment of it maybe you understand the issues involved better than I do; have you dealt with CC0 before and with contribution agreements? < 1471502216 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471504093 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471506059 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1471506059 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reject the cynical view that politics is a dirty business. < 1471506065 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1471506065 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Government enterprise is the most inefficient and costly way of producing jobs. < 1471506066 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1471506066 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything that builds the will to win better than competitive sports. < 1471506067 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1471506067 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :People react to fear, not love; they don't teach that in Sunday School, but it's true. < 1471506068 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1471506068 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is necessary for me to establish a winner image. Therefore, I have to beat somebody. < 1471507216 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone alive? < 1471507275 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hi < 1471507301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this an attention thing? < 1471507305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you saying my name? < 1471507351 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:b0c3:7052:aeaf:e6cf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shachaf hth < 1471507361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh hth < 1471507375 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Cale < 1471507382 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale is the inventor of the calzone. < 1471507389 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1471507392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget cale < 1471507396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1471507408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should put a better wisdom entry there. < 1471507417 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously the calzone was invented by Taneb. < 1471507424 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1471507426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1471507427 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1471507450 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the universe has sex in it? < 1471507504 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:b0c3:7052:aeaf:e6cf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Sex was introduced to the universe after he sold the company though. < 1471507547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If A invents B and B invents C, there's no reason to say that A invented C. < 1471507551 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1471507552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1471507556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the universe < 1471507558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. Escardó proved that it was indiscreet. < 1471507582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nitia < 1471507584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia is the inventor of all things. The BBC invented her. < 1471507611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bbc < 1471507613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, and villages in Norway. Taneb invented it. < 1471507625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a < 1471507627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1471507648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg cale < 1471507655 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ forget cale \ learn Cale is the inventor of the calzone. < 1471507828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A calzone is a part of California. They include norcal and socal. < 1471507832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'calzone': A calzone is a part of California. They include norcal and socal. < 1471508045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: You should move to Ontario, CA < 1471508060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's not in the best calzone. < 1471508073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait there _is_ rate limiting. < 1471508083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not in the filter rule itself. < 1471508134 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471508165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i may have done something wrong here < 1471508194 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oerjan < 1471508212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo moon < 1471508345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-maybefalsepositive-warning14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49596&oldid=49584 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+88) 10Oops, realized this message may be used by other filters < 1471508525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-timelimit-warning14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49597 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+271) 10Make a new message < 1471508576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/710]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/7/diff/prev/41]]) < 1471508620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoyingly, "what links here" doesn't work to find filters using them < 1471512244 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471513461 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471513960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask fizzie Does the wiki have object caching? The abuse filter documentation says this is necessary for group throttling, which looks useful for such big spam events... < 1471513960 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471514048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter/Actions#Throttling ) < 1471514048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471514106 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471515118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1471515142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is also a wiki administrator. he's so easy to forget :P < 1471515282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's even amer^Wantarctic < 1471516111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> wait, back there an ip address managed to create a page! <-- it's like they're just demonstrating that all our simple tricks are useless. < 1471516219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 they must be good at solving the captcha too, some of them aren't even bothering to register first < 1471516219 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471516257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie they must be good at solving the captcha too, some of them weren't even bothering to register first < 1471516257 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471516388 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't understand is how the effort they put to it could possibly make it worth it < 1471516482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they are making up on volume hth < 1471516501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it up < 1471516559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : myname: perhaps the idea is to ask some search engine to index the pages and then get better ranked search results for those phone numbers... people never have to visit the actual page for that to work. < 1471516588 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: best explanation i've seen so far < 1471516599 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1471516601 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd make sense < 1471516674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, google probably has countermeasures. last time they even emailed fizzie a while later to tell him about the spam < 1471516693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as the wiki admin) < 1471516771 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe, that's nice of them < 1471516804 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask moon_ i cant find a unlambda interpreter thats noninteractive ): <-- what's wrong with the ones in the official distribution? < 1471516805 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471516834 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, the C one has a bug, e doesn't work. but other than that...) < 1471516844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell moon_ (well, the C one has a bug, e doesn't work. but other than that...) < 1471516844 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471517089 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might recommend his haskell one, except his original has bitrotted since the AMP change and the descendant lambdabot uses is no longer standalone he thinks
< 1471517120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could fix it. < 1471517154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. it doesn't even use hierarchical modules. < 1471517551 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471518942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask fizzie would it be possible to make the HackEgo link interruptible from irc somehow? say, with a sentinel file in /hackenv/tmp or something. < 1471518942 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471518998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie or from the wiki side by ordinary (non-new) users. < 1471518998 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471519042 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471519111 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always +q < 1471519118 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that reminds me < 1471519122 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :of something I should ask someone < 1471519140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: hm that doesn't help with ordinary users part < 1471519147 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it doesn't < 1471519498 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:68b4:b757:80d:5944 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471519573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Is there a root mean cube? <-- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space < 1471519573 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471519769 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:68b4:b757:80d:5944 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471519857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia hppavilion[1]: in the limit as n->infty, the nthrootmeannthpower goes to...0 I think! <-- nope, it goes to the absolute value of the maximum hth < 1471519857 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471519886 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471519888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia or wait, are you doing ^n at the end < 1471519888 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471519895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hobbily < 1471519918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, that's not a language. that i know of.) < 1471519978 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :allø̂rjan! < 1471519993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i did that thing where i don't read to the end again. < 1471520126 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime oerjan < 1471520127 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Thu Aug 18 12:35:26 2016 < 1471520150 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was I under the impression that it was nighttime in oerjanland... < 1471520212 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically at this time yesterday i was just going to bed. < 1471521071 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later, or Nite, i'm not quite sure. < 1471522790 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TUXEDO CHICKEN < 1471526631 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471526687 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone! I need a RNG which can generate a bit, 1 in 70% of cases and 0 in 30% cases. while this is achieved simply, are there a correct name for it? API? how these functions are usually called? < 1471526753 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:609b:9db1:7af4:d718 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471527023 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:609b:9db1:7af4:d718 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471529058 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471529073 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1471529126 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the hardest esolang to compile proven that it is possible to compile? < 1471529136 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ < 1471529217 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :download C++ compiler-->win < 1471529702 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just asking cause I've got an idea and I'd like to know if something similiar had yet been made. It's "Riemann Befunge"-Befunge-93 with additional command "R". If the Riemann hypothesis is true it outputs 0 and if it's false it outputs 1 < 1471529943 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid < 1471529951 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471529971 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're just trying to make a language which can't be implemented < 1471529979 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :input is a turing machine, output is whether it halts < 1471530099 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the last sentence < 1471530135 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem < 1471530205 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boys: sounds similar in spirit to Banana Scheme or Brainhype < 1471530230 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of, anyway < 1471530323 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: oh ok sorry i didn't get it. AFAIK the halting problem program is sure to be impossible while "Riemann Befunge" is sure to be possible we just need answer. So there is a big difference < 1471531316 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't compile arbitrary C++ programs without solving the halting problem, because the templates allow arbitrary computation at compile time < 1471531346 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boys: Is there a proof the Riemann hypothesis is actually decidable though? < 1471531398 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471531557 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: thanks, i'm not sure but from what I've noticed Banana Scheme is rather a thought experiment than a language. Im nowhere near an expert but from the discussion on Brainhype I've concluded that with better specification it's eiter not computable or easly computable. If that's true then they are both different in the "spirit" than Riemann Befunge < 1471531743 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no proof that the Riemann hypothesis is decidable, no < 1471531786 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sure hope it is < 1471531932 0 :quentin1!~root@ANantes-650-1-172-160.w2-8.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471531973 0 :quentin1!~root@ANantes-650-1-172-160.w2-8.abo.wanadoo.fr PART #esoteric : < 1471531980 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471533634 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know this possibility thank you for pointing it out < 1471534004 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471534294 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471534587 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471534860 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471534960 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there is an interpreter for riemann befunge, but its implementation of R may have slightly nonstandard behaviour < 1471535003 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a bug report for this on the ubuntu launchpad, which has been closed and reopened five times < 1471535139 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"R is buggy" "no it's not" "of course it is" "prove it" < 1471535241 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the upstream developer has added a command-line flag to change the behaviour of R to match the well-known commercial riemann befunge interpreters, but called it --riem-me-harder which will delay its merge into the next ubuntu release < 1471535243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471535538 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471535562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boys: i think there's already an esolang like that, but based on a different problem. < 1471535665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph i cannot remember which it was < 1471535865 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may have been remembering Bueue, which doesn't really fit < 1471536151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jiloanjilo 5* 10New user account < 1471536157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1471536227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no immediate spam attempt < 1471536319 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of spam, why does gmail mark as spam normal stuff in mailing lists i care about, and let this slip through? http://i.imgur.com/RgRDxAg.png < 1471536384 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471536798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:Jiloanjilo10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Future spammer < 1471536799 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471536817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also past, if you google a bit) < 1471536979 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god I hate good mythical morning. < 1471537006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should be happy not to know what that is, then. < 1471537039 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should. it is... crap in a box. < 1471537046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1471537144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I called the "intuit quickbooks helpline" and made a bunch of legal threats < 1471537189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they won't care unless they're actually in north america. < 1471537198 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears they're in Pakistan < 1471537204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1471537381 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we can just geoip block the whole country < 1471537409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except ais523 said the spammers are coming from india. < 1471537431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has already blocked several ip ranges. < 1471537440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good < 1471537628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i should reiterate that technically, tswett is also a wiki administrator, in case you get caught without the rest of us again. < 1471537666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least he's in a different timezone. < 1471537895 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1471539014 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-156-215.ddns.ualr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471539245 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/710]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/7/diff/prev/42]]) < 1471539266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just made the description match what it now does < 1471539286 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471539691 0 :solenodic!~solenodic@unaffiliated/solenodic QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1471539859 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes this is not a bad idea
< 1471539868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/810]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/8/diff/prev/43]]) < 1471540147 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I don't understand is why it's almost always exclusively these QuickBooks support phone numbers. < 1471540205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that jiloanjilo guy i just preemptively banned was also spamming something else on other sites. < 1471540223 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. But also more QuickBooks. < 1471540226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471540252 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Interruptible from the wiki side is hard, but interruptible with a /hackenv/tmp "lock file" should be possible, the repo is visible in the filesystem. < 1471540261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1471540285 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably with some `tools to make that happen. < 1471540307 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take a look once I get home from this exciting adventure. < 1471540322 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@d153-145.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471540373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that /hackenv/tmp is the directory that isn't version controlled. < 1471540404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess this won't be used that often, so maybe it doesn't have to be there. < 1471540427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the repository mechanism might mess up special files if it isn't. < 1471540679 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/810]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/8/diff/prev/44]]) < 1471541002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-shutdown-warning14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49598 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+292) 10Warning message for new emergency filter < 1471541226 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems like a job for mAcHiNe LeArNiNg ClAsSiFiErS! < 1471541236 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what does? < 1471541248 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471541251 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spam prevention < 1471541255 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e1c8:e834:457a:bae1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471541259 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1471541259 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 5h 56m 41s ago: hppavilion[1]: in the limit as n->infty, the nthrootmeannthpower goes to...0 I think! <-- nope, it goes to the absolute value of the maximum hth < 1471541259 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 5h 56m 11s ago: or wait, are you doing ^n at the end < 1471541261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's some extension that does that. < 1471541275 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: NEVER MIND THOSE < 1471541286 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes i came to that conclusion too < 1471541314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a well-known fact in L^p space theory, as i recall. < 1471541374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe you get the minimum as p -> 0, too, although that's not technically a norm. < 1471541379 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just confused on what nth roots do in the limit. i alreasy knew the L_infty part < 1471541388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for p < 1) < 1471541400 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471541530 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e1c8:e834:457a:bae1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471541664 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-156-215.ddns.ualr.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471542553 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:70fa:f4d6:43aa:600b JOIN :#esoteric < 1471542710 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@d153-145.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471542909 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471543213 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'paste bin/mk < 1471543224 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/mk < 1471543231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/mk < 1471544482 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471545650 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471546665 0 :moon_!~AndChat57@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471547003 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my Magic: the Gathering cards now I have made also the updated Genericas. So now I have six such cards, which are called: Generica, Grass Generica, Fire Generica, Water Generica, Light Generica, Dark Generica. I have also added the "bands with other" ability to each of them. < 1471547246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example one of them now is: Grass Generica {G} Creature - Generica (1/1) ;; Bands with other non-green Genericas ;; If you control other creatures named Fire Generica and Water Generica then ~ has +2/+2. < 1471547278 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1471547655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471548515 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471548615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1049 < 1471548615 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1049: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1471548646 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1471548689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist < 1471548727 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit of a filler page < 1471548758 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471548763 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471549029 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471549122 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471550344 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471550497 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@d153-145.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471550946 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@d153-145.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471551921 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471551962 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471552456 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471552660 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471553354 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god dammit google won't leave me alone < 1471553561 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh google's recruiters are seriously pushy < 1471553611 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll contact YOU when I want a new job, maybe! < 1471554737 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell them to find me a job instead < 1471554899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: are you on linkedin maybe that will work < 1471554903 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1471554909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well make one < 1471554918 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't any google jobs available I want anyway < 1471554937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What jobs do you want? < 1471555452 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if they had one that interested me (possible), they don't have any that don't require relocation < 1471555458 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm very happy where I am too < 1471555581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I am not moving to california. no way san jose < 1471555642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1471555755 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's in america < 1471555769 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:45e5:b7c5:6f88:2751 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471555774 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is better than america < 1471555855 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( which continent is Canada on again... ) < 1471556021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if a company offered me a spot in, say, London, I'd have a lot more trouble turning them down. < 1471556025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether Canada is better, but is it that much better? < 1471556038 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:45e5:b7c5:6f88:2751 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471556088 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's where americans threaen to move if the other party wins. < 1471556127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they hardly ever do. < 1471556144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the disadvantages of the US? < 1471556224 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, your violent crime rate is way higher, you have an expensive healthcare system, your weather is hotter (in general), and your government is really, really, incompetent and corrupt < 1471556237 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1471556242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about Finland here? < 1471556256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think those are true about Finland at all. < 1471556261 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the united states. < 1471556294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "America" < 1471556328 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471556344 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is fine afaik < 1471556448 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471556499 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait I thought you live in California? < 1471556520 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachad < 1471556521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do live in California. < 1471556521 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachad? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471556523 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1471556524 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1471556607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you live in Toronto or Waterloo or something? < 1471556619 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Downtown toronto. < 1471556650 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you should come here < 1471556653 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have jos < 1471556656 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*jobs < 1471556675 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alercah < 1471556676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471556681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Weren't you just asking for a job? < 1471556744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that an upper bound on healthcare cost that I should expect to pay would be ~$10k/year. < 1471556768 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no? < 1471556777 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a job. I like it. < 1471556843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's without a job. < 1471556896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is expensive, of course, but probably not materially different in this context. < 1471556923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weather in the US is very varied. < 1471556937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1471556937 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 182000Z CCA VRB03KT 15SM BKN050TCU BKN080 BKN250 27/18 A3000 RMK TCU5AC1CI1 CI TR TCU ALQDS SLP157 DENSITY ALT 2000FT < 1471556946 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1471556951 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 181953Z 30015KT 10SM FEW013 21/14 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP119 T02060139 < 1471557048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of the former mayor of Toronto? < 1471557168 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471557209 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rob Ford, the crack smoking mayor of Toronto. He was really stupid but his voters actually adored him since he actually cared about them. His union-busting politics might have done some good, but was prevented by special interests. < 1471557230 0 :Boys!5948380b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.72.56.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471557267 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly he was rendered powerless by the city council, as soon as they figured out how stupid he was. < 1471557327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjdTi1r-yRQ < 1471558640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Deadfish 214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49599&oldid=49587 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+415) 10 < 1471559594 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471560358 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:70fa:f4d6:43aa:600b QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471561039 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471561109 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471561132 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`isOerjanAsleep < 1471561133 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: isOerjanAsleep: not found < 1471561145 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1471561162 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily! < 1471561186 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(`isOerjanAsleep would be a useful command, though it should probably be more illegible for *n?x-compatibility) < 1471561193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ioas < 1471561194 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ioas: not found < 1471561200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471561200 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 11h 33m 47s ago: Is there a root mean cube? <-- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space < 1471561281 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( hmm.. that wasabi tastes nothing... ) < 1471561339 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts a large dollop of wasabi in his mouth... “yup, that's some weekass wasabi. weekabi.ʼn
< 1471561343 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ʼn/” < 1471561354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/\// < 1471561547 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471561560 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome byteflame < 1471561563 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07byteflame: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1471561591 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1471561628 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471561628 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 12h 27m 3s ago: i cant find a unlambda interpreter thats noninteractive ): <-- what's wrong with the ones in the official distribution? < 1471561628 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 12h 26m 23s ago: (well, the C one has a bug, e doesn't work. but other than that...) < 1471561650 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_! < 1471561658 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1471561670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloon < 1471561701 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me and two others got a open interpreter sandbox bot up and running. rebot1. Python C C++ haskell < 1471561704 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(derp < 1471561706 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :enter key < 1471561707 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1471561711 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't dont typing < 1471561713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: s-ing an s. Hardcore. < 1471561735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, itym 'weakass' < 1471561764 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hugs), pascall ruby perl JS (node) coffeescript. i think thats it < 1471561808 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: eating, typing and orthographing at the same time is NP hard hth < 1471561876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My god < 1471561933 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i want to see that proof < 1471561943 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i meant you < 1471561971 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471562032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471562037 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sushi is too narrow for the proof to fit in. < 1471562092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You're thinking of typography, not orthography. < 1471562102 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do orthographers use proofs? < 1471562142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've always thought the EaTyOr problem was NQP < 1471562182 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, we have a lack-of-HackEgo situation < 1471562210 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf, FirelloFly. < 1471562213 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1471562222 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. HACKEGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1471562235 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1471562274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm a buddhist, and I have to simplify my life, what complexity classes are problems in my life allowed to fall in? < 1471562290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :L < 1471562312 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L is a horrible name for a complexity class < 1471562318 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it exists < 1471562327 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is P < 1471562340 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1471562357 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1471562367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, how is L? < 1471562367 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1471562376 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L \in L < 1471562525 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have nothing to do with HackEgo < 1471562545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. you lambdabot. < 1471562554 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who hackegoes again? < 1471562558 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has some powers over it < 1471562648 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki is gone too, may be the whole VM ;/ < 1471562649 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I don't know the exact incantation to start it. < 1471562659 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that way. < 1471562661 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just too slow? < 1471562681 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not answering my ssh in a reasonable time. < 1471562683 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might still answer. < 1471562692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty away at the moment anyway. < 1471562734 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the whole CaC that's gone under though < 1471563125 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471563272 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471563281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ievan//ievan is basically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI < 1471563521 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's not right! where's miku twirling a leek < 1471563659 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\! back to your backslashes? < 1471564148 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471564170 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471564349 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471564661 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471565773 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471568417 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471569325 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471569440 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471569750 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471569875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read about four-color glossies and marketroids < 1471569893 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do marketing departments ever actually promise that a product will do something in violation of the laws of physics? < 1471569963 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more surprising when they don't. < 1471569986 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you reading the http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/index.html per chance? < 1471570175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scowgon file < 1471570256 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many sides to a scowgon? < 1471570469 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471570512 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471570554 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome codergeek42 < 1471570555 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02codergeek42: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1471570600 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello; and thanks for the colorful welcome, haha :) < 1471570700 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471571429 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471571432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471571488 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: "brb" < 1471571953 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c JOIN :#esoteric < 1471571953 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c QUIT :Changing host < 1471571953 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471572450 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Goodnight < 1471573109 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tgieoedzxgzsxbsa JOIN :#esoteric < 1471573223 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471573257 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471573816 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HYDROCHLORIC CHICKEN < 1471573940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471573958 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jargon file < 1471573959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jargon file? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471574012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn scowgon file/The scowgon file requires Scala to open < 1471574014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «scowgon file» < 1471574775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1471574785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1471574823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1471574834 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1471574838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scowgon file < 1471574839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowgon file? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471574972 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo JOIN :#esoteric < 1471574993 0 :miketo!~miketo@unaffiliated/miketo PART #esoteric : < 1471575472 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471575628 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471575789 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1471577092 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471577101 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471578632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471581072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471582141 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bfjoust ({<})%0 < 1471582155 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the commands :( < 1471582156 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :.help < 1471582158 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1471582158 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1471582164 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test ({<})%0 < 1471582165 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1471582172 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test ({})%0 < 1471582173 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -34.00, score 2.61, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471582601 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471583835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471584927 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1471585326 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471585795 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471585977 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471585979 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1471586847 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471586872 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471588027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf L <-- itym NC^0 hth < 1471588027 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471588293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily how many sides to a scowgon? <-- bleen hth < 1471588293 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471588368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf `revert <-- PSA: `revert doesn't work after file creation. < 1471588368 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471588375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scowgon < 1471588376 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowgon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471588390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk test//ho < 1471588392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1471588394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scowgon < 1471588395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowgon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471588402 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it did, this time. < 1471588414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1471588419 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scowgon file < 1471588419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scowgon file requires Scala to open < 1471588428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget scowgon file < 1471588429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1471589007 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scowgon? Does that form a scowhedron? < 1471589043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally. < 1471590684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then what did it do? < 1471590702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471590702 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 44m 35s ago: L <-- itym NC^0 hth < 1471590702 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 38m 53s ago: `revert <-- PSA: `revert doesn't work after file creation. < 1471590716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1471590821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471592085 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is revert broken? < 1471592159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably a stupid bug not treating deleted files correctly? < 1471592178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're not removed from the hg repository. < 1471592230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it will look in HackEgo like they were removed, until a later change synchronizes with the repository < 1471592293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie or someone looked into it at one point. < 1471592317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's in the part of HackEgo that he doesn't feel authorized to change. < 1471592363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially since he doesn't have access to where Gregor keeps the repository for HackEgo's own code < 1471592368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1471592409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle : 26 days 4 hours 10 mins 28 secs [signon: Sun Jul 24 04:29:24 2016] < 1471592428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one wonders why Gregor even logs on < 1471592461 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Habit, obligation, forgetting to log off but just being way too busy? < 1471592494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one looks most likely to me < 1471592521 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear "professor" is a busy job if you do it right. < 1471592588 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to wear many hats. gregor should be good at that. < 1471592667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :choosemyhat.com doesn't look too active. < 1471592698 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should choose some hats and surprise him. < 1471592863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see someone did < 1471592866 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would like to applaud his choice of academic website... http://the.gregor.institute/
< 1471593273 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471593792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471594203 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471594523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1471595698 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5dd:49cd:99:34c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471595947 0 :izabera!?@? NICK :bibibi < 1471595952 0 :bibibi!?@? NICK :izabera < 1471597170 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471597227 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471601910 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been on IRC much lately < 1471601918 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is everyone? < 1471605592 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471606545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471606815 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471606816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just//Just is just a just adverb. < 1471606926 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1471606926 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 5h 10m 33s ago: how many sides to a scowgon? <-- bleen hth < 1471608525 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471608604 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471608968 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zhill ({<})*-1 < 1471608974 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zhill test (.{<})*-1 < 1471608987 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test (.{<})*-1 < 1471608989 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -34.00, score 2.61, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471608999 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test ({<})*-1 < 1471608999 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471609149 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellymia! < 1471609154 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: LONG CHICKEN < 1471609296 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471610690 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471610839 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471611596 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471611880 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471612261 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5dd:49cd:99:34c1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471612396 0 :keelbix!~keelbix@77-254-212-37.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471612769 0 :keelbix!~keelbix@77-254-212-37.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471613422 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471613571 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471613706 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471614713 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1471615133 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471615704 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471615706 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1471615709 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bfjoust evaluator works < 1471615710 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1471615718 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It evaluates Nyuroki correctly... let's see. < 1471615794 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471615860 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471615862 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preperation fails. < 1471615870 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how it works and the minimal test case :( < 1471616883 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471618234 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1471618326 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471619513 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471619785 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471619842 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471620029 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471620047 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1471620069 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my bot) < 1471620086 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does nothing) < 1471621206 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471621944 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? drone < 1471621945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drones are tools used to perform certain criminal actions that were not possible in ancient times. < 1471623123 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo *dron* < 1471623124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberdrone drone drone sex < 1471623129 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cyberdrone < 1471623130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberdrone is a drone flying in cyberspace. < 1471623144 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits cyberdrone < 1471623146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 mroman < 1471623522 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471623683 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471623687 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1471623766 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This crappy BFJoust parser is so slloooow < 1471625556 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1471625569 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you write it in? < 1471627597 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471627627 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471627803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471628159 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: spammy hth < 1471628178 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :moons over my spammy? < 1471628248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think the wiki bridge is down hth < 1471628264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie might be a bit down too. < 1471628363 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blocks the unsuccessful spammer
< 1471628394 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it was rather spammy when I left on my travels < 1471628403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah? < 1471628430 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was that. the spammers came back a couple days ago, more clever than ever < 1471628453 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third of this month < 1471628458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471628529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i'm waiting for ais523 to come back to see if he can outsmart them again, but i'm starting to get skeptical. < 1471628574 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zclnvmubuftnydkf QUIT :Excess Flood < 1471628618 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-atioazceptfbxweq JOIN :#esoteric < 1471628619 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there was an ip spammer too. < 1471628652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see Special:AbuseLog) < 1471628779 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are the spam edits classified and logged? < 1471628796 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do we have years of tagged spam edits? < 1471628800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they're still trying. < 1471628813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it might seem so. < 1471628877 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do all wiki edits get tossed into one log file or database record somewhere? < 1471628947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think it's in there, i just checked that i can see the spammer's attempted edits < 1471628982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's some cleanup of old ones, i wouldn't know. < 1471629366 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471630276 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, there are blocked edits from 2013 with full diffs < 1471630296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no automatic cleanup < 1471630310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm up, I'm up. < 1471630315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1471630368 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll prop up the bridge once I'm at a table that I can fit a laptop on. < 1471630374 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lunchtime now. < 1471630394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see that some of the spammers from the other day got caught by the automatic ip block too < 1471630413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's normal < 1471630767 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471630943 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/gallery/6Til9 how cute < 1471630951 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOO they destroyed it < 1471630960 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyyyyy < 1471631890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm more interested in hwo they intend to sort the sand into colors again < 1471631902 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :merge sort < 1471632483 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:8554:a76e:9174:62c5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471632696 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/46248257d265f6b1e56554235cc2b9006da2eb6e.bfjoust < 1471632703 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/46248257d265f6b1e56554235cc2b9006da2eb6e.bfjoust < 1471632705 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -36.57, score 2.37, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471632795 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/5dfa80f615343cb8955dd64b594d98cdfafd63d9.bfjoust < 1471632797 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -36.86, score 2.28, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471632815 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1471633098 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/e331635fc748ebf9d201cfc674b190714fb03424.bfjoust < 1471633100 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -34.02, score 3.16, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471633128 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wt actual eff < 1471633226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty tough hill hth < 1471633251 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471633290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1471633290 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1471633307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: you can get some statistics from the website, i believe. < 1471633327 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1471633329 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at it < 1471633335 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the results are mind boggling wtf. < 1471633341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, breakdowns < 1471633343 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the intent of this program in mind. < 1471633366 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/84827ed9ed0d4dc0cb7f8489e90df45ab5832318.bfjoust < 1471633368 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -33.90, score 3.14, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471633478 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :... aha < 1471633484 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471633490 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the program just doesn't work. < 1471633504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1471633699 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/7fdf75b11c9ea906754a8787e8199fdb409a99f3.bfjoust < 1471633700 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -33.90, score 3.14, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471633719 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out wht's wrong < 1471634021 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5c60:6e4e:1346:b766 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471634270 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5c60:6e4e:1346:b766 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471634879 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/e0847898b2186628e6949965d0edfaab5736b8a9.bfjoust < 1471634881 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -35.10, score 2.96, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471634891 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, that bridge. < 1471634938 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's up. < 1471634957 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1471634961 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's achieving something now < 1471634970 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still buggy < 1471635057 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/d75ff3e94b52bb1fe05dea7766829c6a0f8a6025.bfjoust < 1471635059 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -35.21, score 3.07, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471635098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize your points are going down hth < 1471635145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's been even lower < 1471635154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust calibrate < < 1471635154 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan.calibrate: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1471635176 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The points are not what matters. < 1471635225 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/75a53eee87ad7d592fb32e331636cf253e87dd7d.bfjoust < 1471635227 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -26.33, score 7.22, rank 47/47 < 1471635300 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh < 1471635304 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to actually debug this thing. < 1471635311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why melon soda isnt sold in canada < 1471635313 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it woks on a proof of concept level. < 1471635317 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :works* < 1471635333 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The score breakdown should probably demonstrate what the intent of this is. :V < 1471636314 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/2a17d78342568d627b48ce9c4e8963bc406714d2.bfjoust < 1471636316 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -34.12, score 3.35, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471636782 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e932:4e76:7f45:67c3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471637424 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test < < 1471637424 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471637432 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust hotel_bombing https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/d7e1498f11a08cd81bb166dc5d89a6e0c240d1a5.bfjoust < 1471637434 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.hotel_bombing: points -34.14, score 3.08, rank 47/47 < 1471637465 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1471637469 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still glitches < 1471638031 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471638677 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust hotel_bombing < < 1471638678 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.hotel_bombing: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471638747 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust determinism https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/b8c4f982e8134dde75c04d585514fcb9a34fcd31.bfjoust < 1471638749 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.determinism: points -23.05, score 9.63, rank 47/47 < 1471638791 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :melon soda sounds awesome < 1471638837 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need this < 1471638919 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they don't sell it in europe either < 1471639563 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471639718 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It is amazing, in net cafes they have it on the self serve machines; but not sold anywhere in Canada, afaict. < 1471639782 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also get a vanilla ice cream float with melon soda at certain places. < 1471639826 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you right now < 1471639837 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you send my some, in this case you are a hero < 1471639853 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Well I can't get any right now; I had it when I went to Tokyo < 1471639876 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying toi figure out if I can get it delivered. < 1471639892 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :napajapan sells it for 4 bucks a buttle < 1471639902 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*o < 1471639908 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but srsly melon ice cream float is like ADHD in a cup < 1471639928 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i love read bean ice < 1471639936 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that stuff is so damn delicious < 1471639942 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red < 1471639948 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck is wrong with me today < 1471640210 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:e932:4e76:7f45:67c3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471640382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ god what < 1471640386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_availability_of_Fanta#Japan < 1471640410 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gotta be like 50 flavors of fanta < 1471640492 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what la france tastes like < 1471640534 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruity melon < 1471640538 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiwi <3 < 1471640693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bodlypoqdorthys 5* 10New user account < 1471640716 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i smell spam < 1471640733 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm... spam. < 1471640780 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like spam and bacon sandwiches < 1471640856 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see if they can get past the new filters < 1471640985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems not < 1471641025 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're going to wait 24 hours and then start spamming < 1471641103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.i.c.kb.o.ok.s. .su.p.po.r.t .p.h.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.er.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Qui.ck.b.o.ok.s. .he.l.p. d.es..k .p.ho.n.e. .n.u.mb.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49607 5* 03Bodlypoqdorthys 5* (+9894) 10Created page with "POINT OF SALE~SupPort◄1-888-513-5978► QuickBooks point of sale support phone number ◄QuickBooks point of sale customer care Phone < 1471641122 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1471641128 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471641149 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging fizzie, < 1471641527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Q.u.ic.k.bo.o.ks. p.r.e.mi.e.r. t.e.ch. .s.u.pp.o.r.t. .ph.o.n.e. .nu.m.b.erΏΏ1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8ΏΏ Qu.ic.k.bo.oks .p.r.em.i.er. t.e.ch. su.pp.o.rt .nu.mb.e.r14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49608 5* 03Bodlypoqdorthys 5* (+9894) 10Created page with "POINT OF SALE~SupPort◄1-888-513-5978► QuickBooks point of sale support phone number ◄QuickBooks poin < 1471641586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/810]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/8/diff/prev/45]]) < 1471641594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see how this works. < 1471641931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, this is a filter that simply forbids recent (< 24 hours) users, period. < 1471641951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not very sustainable. < 1471642010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm they don't seem to have tried again yet < 1471642052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Q.u.ic.k.bo.o.ks. p.r.e.mi.e.r. t.e.ch. .s.u.pp.o.r.t. .ph.o.n.e. .nu.m.b.erΏΏ1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8ΏΏ Qu.ic.k.bo.oks .p.r.em.i.er. t.e.ch. su.pp.o.rt .nu.mb.e.r10]]": Spam: content was: "POINT OF SALE~SupPort◄1-888-513-5978► QuickBooks point of sale support phone number ◄QuickBooks point of sale cust < 1471642073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:Bodlypoqdorthys10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1471642098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Q.u.i.c.kb.o.ok.s. .su.p.po.r.t .p.h.o.n.e .n.u.m.b.er.1.8.8.8.5.1.3.5.9.7.8. Qui.ck.b.o.ok.s. .he.l.p. d.es..k .p.ho.n.e. .n.u.mb.e.r10]]": Spam: content was: "POINT OF SALE~SupPort◄1-888-513-5978► QuickBooks point of sale support phone number ◄QuickBooks point of sale customer care Phone Number►P..." < 1471642207 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm maybe I can find out who their phone provider is and report them < 1471642295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the spammer tried 7 other edits that _were_ caught by the other filter. < 1471642336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug question, should i disable the nuclear option again... i think not since i was half planning to go to bed soon. < 1471642342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*big question < 1471642736 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their number is being served by Level 3 Communications. I am filing variius complaints < 1471642764 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully I will get in touch with the downstream provider and identify the scammer < 1471642819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I called him he attempted to get my username and password, probably to install ransomware < 1471642842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1471642888 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471643021 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :username for what < 1471643033 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: my PC < 1471643073 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471643089 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he wanted me to enable windows' remote desktop stuff < 1471643099 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the reason to dosable the nuclear option? < 1471643108 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1471643118 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm sorry, i run haiku" < 1471643162 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more like "sorry dude, that's the password to level 3 of Metroid" < 1471643179 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take 4 random points on a sphere, what's the avg volume of the tetrahedron? < 1471643220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: to allow normal people to register again? < 1471643251 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought the nuclear option was "you can register, but you cannot edit for 24 hours" < 1471643273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, although maybe i should do that instead. < 1471643305 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you can register, we can stop spam and serious accounts just do have to wait < 1471643371 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling the group throttling options for the filter aren't enabled, or else i could make a filter that limits the number of people registering and one that limits what each can edit... < 1471643387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for the filter system < 1471643398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the option looked greyed out) < 1471643519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose fizzie might have some configuration options as well. < 1471643676 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would seem that a filter which autoblocks users who creates pages with titles that contain the string "Quickbooks" once all non-alphabetics are removed would be in order? < 1471643719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1471643808 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work for this specific spam < 1471643814 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for spam in general < 1471643816 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471643843 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would give us some more insight into the sorts of things the spammers will try < 1471643947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the new filter caught someone. < 1471644093 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471644142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was not a quickbooks spam, and i think only that filter stopped it. < 1471644179 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471644258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :european spam, afaict < 1471644266 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which filter? < 1471644295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471644299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo! < 1471644303 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. 8 which disables everything by accounts < 24 hours < 1471644320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DoJ announced it will no longer be contracting with private prisons! < 1471644412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it almost got caught by filter 3, except that only applies to userpages < 1471644719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie Spammers started again, I've used my new filter 8 to shut off new users entirely because I'm about to go to bed. (That also accidentally caught a non-quickbook spam by an IP.) < 1471644719 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471644753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471644854 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well, WLoG, we can consider the first point to be the north pole < 1471644868 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471644938 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried generating a bunch of these and the smallest height ends up being surprisingly small < 1471644940 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: exciting < 1471644955 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not so surprisingly, but it did surprise me < 1471644963 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them are basically 2d < 1471645023 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471645055 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, to pick random points on a sphere, you can use the lambert projection < 1471645107 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just used meridians and parallels..
< 1471645133 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that won't give you an equl number of points in each area < 1471645145 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok < 1471645150 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will have a lot more points near the poles < 1471645224 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, pick a random longitude, and then pick a random number y in (-1,1), and take the arcsine of y < 1471645228 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471645251 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471645251 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will give you equally distributed points < 1471645489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, alos WLoG, we may assume the second point to have a longitude of 0 < 1471645544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're only really looking at a problem with 5 degrees of freedom < 1471645683 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, WLoG, assume the third point has a positive longitude, restricting the problem by chirality < 1471645892 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471645907 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon < 1471645974 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471645983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're picking point 2 from a line, and point 3 from a hemisphere, and only point 4 is picked from a full sphere < 1471646103 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471646117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: whoapumpkin < 1471646130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a new computer and I was considering installing NixOS on it. < 1471646139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I decided that it would be a big headache so I didn't do it. < 1471646581 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin has scrapped :'( < 1471646583 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :abbradar: ^oh hi < 1471646585 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up < 1471646592 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you should've done it < 1471646596 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :your loss! < 1471646615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could still do it, I guess. < 1471646642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who uses NixOS said that today they would prefer installing Debian and setting up Nix for their local user instead. < 1471646693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Also that book is out of preorder. < 1471646717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it's just a new edition of a book which has been out for years? < 1471646733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you tell me your address I'll order you a copy. < 1471646775 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think I should scrap Ubuntu and install NixOS? < 1471646865 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about to go overseas for a couple of weeks, but will order it when I Get home (otherwise it'll just be sitting on my porch for a week and I'd rather nobody steal it) < 1471646867 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1471646867 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1471646877 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the haskell os linux distros < 1471646881 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/os/of/ < 1471646887 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the good ways and bad ways < 1471646930 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, Italy? < 1471646956 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: There are lots of things where the NixOS approach is obviously better than the Debian approach. < 1471646966 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup :) < 1471646979 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't look forward to, say, having to do a lot of work to set up my volume buttons. < 1471646988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or suspend when I close the laptop lid. Or wifi. < 1471646994 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All sorts of things like that. < 1471646996 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1471647001 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only used it on headless servers < 1471647008 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I know a few people who run it on laptops < 1471647022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A server would be a different situation. < 1471647035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also being able to run binaries downloaded from the Internet would be nice. < 1471647042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471647052 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1471647063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use Mac OS for your desktop OS, if I remember correctly. < 1471647083 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm not sure what you were yupping. < 1471647124 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I do < 1471647134 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still use Nix/NixOS wherever I get the chance < 1471647308 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish more random Linux binaries on the Internet would actually ship static linked. < 1471647413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with NixOS you don't even have /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 or whatever it is. < 1471647458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Static linking is TG < 1471647482 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG? < 1471647496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good < 1471647549 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though NixOS's variant of dynamic linking where things are dynamically linked to a particular file hash (I think?) has many of the same advantages. < 1471647575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: It's kind of scow how every programming language comes with its own build system/package manager. If you ask me. < 1471647585 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's hardly ever a justification for it. < 1471647595 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1471647605 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nix should take over < 1471647610 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :except windows isn't very well supported < 1471647622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they should just use Nix or something. < 1471647625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Nix a good build system? < 1471647629 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah; the relevant advantage of static linking *here* is it lets you just throw up binaries on a website and it'll work in any imaginable distro. < 1471647639 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly okay, although not many people use it for actual building < 1471647646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they should just use Bazel. < 1471647650 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd at least skip doing your own package resolution < 1471647666 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bazel is pretty good in the environment that it lives in. < 1471647676 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how well it would work in other contexts. < 1471647711 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's fairly declarative. < 1471647832 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471648167 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:8554:a76e:9174:62c5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471648970 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471650222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471650583 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471651574 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471651943 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471654609 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471654680 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got an email back from fraudoperations@level3.com saying that they are taking action against the quickbooks spammer guy < 1471654702 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471654912 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice e-mail address < 1471655047 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471655051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471655225 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471656453 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471656899 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust determinism < < 1471656900 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.determinism: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471656902 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709.bfjoust < 1471656904 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: URL fetch problems: undefined method `length' for nil:NilClass < 1471656909 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471656910 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709.bfjoust < 1471656913 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: URL fetch problems: undefined method `length' for nil:NilClass < 1471656927 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wtf < 1471656990 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/a314516a2d92af35269be34007ccafbd0702acba.bfjoust < 1471656993 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -38.67, score 2.24, rank 47/47 < 1471658020 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much it would cost to have a pallet of melon soda delivered to my door < 1471658264 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: cheaper than you think but expect very ackward delivery time if your work is 9-5 you will miss it < 1471658381 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:385e:6339:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471658517 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the explanation: a resupply truck for sodas from that company to supermarkets and such would just stop nearby and drop the pallet off < 1471658589 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/d5592d222184b2bc310f79a97052da05d6b748d0.bfjoust < 1471658590 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -30.12, score 3.95, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471658735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to set up a movie library system on my computer < 1471658751 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/b1f33e7ab5fc61eb57eb747fcdf1eabb2bd95b9f.bfjoust < 1471658752 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -29.40, score 5.13, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471658771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother's friend Peter/Bunny has a big folder of pirated movies, organized by year and such, along with other stuff (like a folder just for movies that he declares she must watch because it's culture) < 1471658776 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :belh < 1471658784 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out if I'm simulating xurtle incorrectly < 1471658788 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if I have some bigger bug :( < 1471658798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I realized that he's either using shortcuts in the folder for her or he has multiple copies of the same file on his computer < 1471658803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find both to be appalling < 1471658876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for my pirated movie collection (mostly it's stuff that is on netflix, but that I'm saving a local copy of so I don't need to use wifi/have a connection/have an unfiltered connection/wait for there to be an open screen), I'm having one big folder with all the movies PLUS .json files of the movies that store additional data, so I can look stuff up awesomely < 1471659066 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Why not just use Plex and set up playlists? :P < 1471659080 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471659084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY < 1471659088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1471659102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This way I have more power over the files and can filter and search in a SQLy fashion < 1471659117 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started using Usenet again specifically to automate all of my movie and TV acquisition and stick it in a Plex box < 1471659154 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if SQL is a good model for "a big pile of movies", unless your metadata is really precies < 1471659157 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*precise < 1471659204 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: That was the goal < 1471659205 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you love typing "SELECT * FROM movies WHERE title="Grown Ups 2" < 1471659213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the JSON is for < 1471659220 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1471659233 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is JSON going to help? < 1471659244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the JSON will list things like the length of the movie, the resolution, the MPAA rating, their justifications, various themes, etc. < 1471659246 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to deserialize the whole record before you can inspect the metadata? < 1471659260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prerequisite films < 1471659269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: ...maybe? < 1471659283 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: The purpose of the JSON is so I can group movies < 1471659301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could, for example, select only movies that do not contain sex scenes if I want to watch it with a younger audience < 1471659355 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do ID3 tags not work? < 1471659358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I could filter out so I only have "so bad they're good" movies if I want that kind of thing < 1471659365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I genuinely have no idea what that is < 1471659379 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's XMP < 1471659399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471659406 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3 < 1471659411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I found the data < 1471659418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't go as in-depth as I was aiming for < 1471659499 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1471659500 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you can write nonstandard ID3 tags, just most clients won't recognize them < 1471659510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1471659511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could < 1471659513 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'll have to write a client that understands them < 1471659516 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone with a decent computer run a test that will be over in less than 30s? < 1471659516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is much more extensible and such < 1471659519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And easier, really < 1471659526 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you don't have to invent an entire tagging system < 1471659535 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Probably < 1471659542 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: It wouldn't be that hard < 1471659566 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :git clone https://github.com/izabera/strstrbench && cd strstrbench && make && ./bench | curl -F 'aringa=<-' arin.ga < 1471659648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, with JSON it would be very easy to extend stuff < 1471659650 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running < 1471659655 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1471659659 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGSEGV < 1471659665 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1471659667 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471659683 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also https://arin.ga/aGU1pO < 1471659698 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-__- < 1471659703 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on why would that segfault < 1471659725 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfault on filename: tests/dna/100k < 1471659730 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :word: ACAGCGACATACCGATATGC < 1471659737 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :which function segfaults? < 1471659762 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like noop, since it doesn't list any of them < 1471659803 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even < 1471659806 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/7334102660208918528 < 1471659818 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's never dereferencing a null pointer < 1471659824 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless mmap failed < 1471659837 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :always assyme mmap fails < 1471659846 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1471659855 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the tests prooftechnique < 1471659877 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird why is glibc so slow on your machine? < 1471659877 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, worth noting that my GCC is probably actually clang < 1471659889 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on OS X, if that helps < 1471659890 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's not glibc? < 1471659901 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that means that strstr in osx sucks < 1471659934 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc --version 〇 [21:25:10] < 1471659937 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode-beta.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1 < 1471659940 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple LLVM version 8.0.0 (clang-800.0.24.1) < 1471659943 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Target: x86_64-apple-darwin16.0.0 < 1471659946 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thread model: posix < 1471659959 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o ok < 1471660000 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try with a real GCC, if you think that'd help < 1471660019 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no it's fine, thanks < 1471660343 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471660385 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471661617 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471661753 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471661851 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, insober trace < 1471662027 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471662646 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Well, I tried with gcc 6, and it segfaulted in the same spot :( < 1471662670 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you clone again? it's not using mmap now < 1471662693 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a bit slower because i added other tests < 1471662713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now using malloc without checking the return value so it's still likely to segfault
< 1471662737 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did < 1471662746 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok <.< < 1471662760 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warnings: http://lpaste.net/7689637720804556800 < 1471662781 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but hey, it segfaulted at a different spot! < 1471662785 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1471662793 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :word: GCGTCCTGCTGGGTCAAACG < 1471662794 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :filename: tests/dna/1M < 1471662797 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1471662800 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1471662808 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it made it through the test it failed on before :) < 1471662845 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... i forgot to free stuff... now it's leaking... < 1471662856 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that's not important < 1471663206 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471663502 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471664041 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@226.97.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1471664422 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/c9e355e8cee36d3e580a041ef2560f743c4ca8c7.bfjoust < 1471664424 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -28.02, score 5.11, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471664426 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@226.97.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PART #esoteric : < 1471664472 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471664682 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/5cb0a09a9ef3c3e4a778f6d0eee0b46f6c83b8fc.bfjoust < 1471664684 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -30.26, score 4.88, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471665303 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471666270 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471670527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 500 * 24 < 1471670530 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12000 < 1471670554 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long 12 liters of melon soda would last me < 1471670573 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get 12 liters for 40 dollars < 1471674350 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471674939 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471674939 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-72-128.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Changing host < 1471674939 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471677760 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5c23:dac4:bb4f:f98a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471677944 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679237 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679285 0 :MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679349 0 :alercah_!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679367 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679387 0 :erdic_!~erdic@81.4.123.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471679590 0 :ybden-!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1471679677 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679677 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679677 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679678 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679678 0 :ybden!~ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679678 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679678 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :*.net *.split < 1471679680 0 :MDead!?@? NICK :MDude < 1471679967 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471680058 0 :erdic_!~erdic@81.4.123.134 QUIT :Changing host < 1471680058 0 :erdic_!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1471680093 0 :erdic_!?@? NICK :erdic < 1471680456 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1471681513 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471683925 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_: :( < 1471683932 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1471683956 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :napajapan tells me they want like 120$ for 5 liters including shipping < 1471685974 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/lifthrasiir/qr.js/issues/6 huh. < 1471687243 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has there been much discussion of quantum Turing machines? < 1471687483 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the next Tanebvention (; < 1471687494 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no < 1471687511 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has not been any at all that i know of < 1471687916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: In here, you mean? < 1471687932 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general < 1471687958 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious about how they'd do < 1471687982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc was just asking about quantum esolangs the other day < 1471688021 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I wasn't about then < 1471688029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not in here. < 1471688161 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was kmc in Sexten or Cardiff? < 1471688172 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I definitely didn't see it < 1471688192 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm December I'll try to create a quantum esolang < 1471688207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, only on IRC. < 1471689205 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Hmm, you could mention that 255 is the order of the multiplicative group associated with GF(2^8). But yeah, odd report. < 1471689256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471689276 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the name saying 256 but the length being 255 can be a bit strange for who don't know that :p < 1471689317 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also I guess explaining the order of group doesn't help for them...) < 1471689503 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1471689551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the newbie shutdown filter has caught a lot of spam attempts, and of yet another kind < 1471689558 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471689766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit the first ip i was going to check doesn't show up in whois ... < 1471689976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whois.net doesn't support ip lookup < 1471690146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :domaintools.net couldn't find it either. < 1471690155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.com < 1471690213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, i'll just say that if your ip doesn't show up on whois, that's suspicious in itself. < 1471690315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tried traceroute, but it vanished somewhere inside AT&T
< 1471690518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if the filter should just have age = 0 instead of < 24 hours, that way it's easier to let someone by manually < 1471690552 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does that make all the rest redundant < 1471690681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this ip does have whois, from china. although the chosen account name was suspicious in itself anyway. < 1471690694 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is just trying to see if the filter caught anyone innocent
< 1471690786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one had a more sensible account name, a word which people use. perhaps some spammers are stealing legitimate account names. < 1471690845 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471690887 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471690892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn < 1471690954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was someone legitimate, github shows someone with a malbolge interest. < 1471691083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok all the rest is obvious spam. < 1471691282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spammer is still trying about once per hour. < 1471691329 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a completely new ip each time. < 1471691505 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/protect14]]4 protect10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10protected "[[Talk:Index.php ‎[create=sysop] (indefinite)]]": Attempted spam target < 1471691556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, the other target is an existing page. < 1471691665 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiosensitivitiesworkhouse *could* be the name of an esolang, though not as cool as Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1471691674 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had to google that) < 1471691700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, did we have that in the logs? < 1471691709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/810]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/8/diff/prev/46]]) < 1471691721 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not it just says !(user_age > 0) < 1471691763 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... basically... edits by IP addresses? < 1471691782 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and registrations. < 1471691787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1471691837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had age < 86400 previously, but i think that makes it awkward to let users temporarily past. < 1471691858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm worried about the feature which automatically disables filters which catch too much... < 1471691879 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think really if we want this, fizzie should do it with the captcha instead. < 1471691960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh another legitimate edit < 1471691967 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just now) < 1471692000 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5c23:dac4:bb4f:f98a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471692010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although looks a bit dubious (not spam dubious) to me < 1471692107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that it's a bit rude to warn users only after they've already submitted their edit
< 1471692176 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that interface for viewing edits is really inadequate... it should show a diff :-/ < 1471692246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't? < 1471692260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does for me. < 1471692277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one in the abuse logs, that is. not sure if you can see that. < 1471692321 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/examine/log/6603 < 1471692375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, look at details instead. < 1471692445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, that's better < 1471692535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471692597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471692609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1471692657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to add "step by our irc channel" to the warning, but the problem is there's two few people who can help... < 1471692687 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1471692737 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that brainfuck algorithms edit is correct, I think. < 1471692751 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1471692752 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I wonder where I put my wiki password < 1471692983 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it was in my brain all the time < 1471693029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-shutdown-warning14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49609&oldid=49598 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+166) 10More helpful message (assuming any wiki admins are present) < 1471693092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-shutdown-warning14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49610&oldid=49609 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-40) 10oops, i removed that part < 1471693120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49611&oldid=49022 5* 03Int-e 5* (-1) 10Edit originally by 178.234.40.167. < 1471693184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1471697416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://no.such.domain/hi < 1471697416 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: URL fetch problems: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known < 1471697433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://oerjan.nvg.org/hi < 1471697433 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: URL fetch problems: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv2/v3 read server hello A: unknown protocol < 1471697442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test http://oerjan.nvg.org/hi < 1471697442 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: URL fetch problems: 404 Not Found < 1471697447 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1471697461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what Lymia got that nilclass message for, then
< 1471697516 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empty file < 1471697534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471698813 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471699246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1471699295 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471699554 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471699936 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program is sllooow < 1471700808 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471701793 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471702311 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471702746 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471703423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49612&oldid=49611 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10/* z = x > y */ subtraction is not very commutative < 1471703740 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471704344 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: FORCE CHICKEN < 1471705522 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471705776 0 :alercah_!?@? NICK :alercah < 1471705807 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Re nilclass: apparently an empty 200 response, somehow. I'unno. < 1471705807 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471706818 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471707192 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471709344 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471709364 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471709370 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471709410 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471711981 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471712008 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471712569 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471712794 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471714460 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Oh, it was already answered. Never mind then. < 1471714460 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471718108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471718189 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4c7c:e173:2ae1:2583 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471718341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i am getting this vision of a page (Esolang:Big Button) with a button that "anyone" (say, > 6 months registered) can push to turn off/on the wiki for unregistered and "new" (say, < 1 week) users. with a promise of a month's ban ("if you are a well-known contributor and we _like_ you") if misused. < 1471718355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471718355 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 3h 29m 7s ago: Re nilclass: apparently an empty 200 response, somehow. I'unno. < 1471718355 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 1h 4m 54s ago: Oh, it was already answered. Never mind then. < 1471718394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course a promise of our gratitude if it actually stops a spam/vandalism attack. < 1471718441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no new attempts in a while < 1471718483 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/810]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/8/diff/prev/47]]) < 1471718494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPEN FOR BUSINESS < 1471718505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, for anything _except_ business, i hope. < 1471718636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy who got shut off doesn't seem to be on freenode, at least not with the same nick. despite having an irssi script repository. < 1471719063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notifies him with an issue in his malbolge repo
< 1471719347 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: A big red button? Sounds like a dangerous thing. < 1471719360 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: YEP < 1471719421 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :A big, friendly button. < 1471719431 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels an urge to push buttons
< 1471719431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will either save the wor^Wwiki, or get you banned - and only the most skilled can discern the difference < 1471719438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: i was afraid of that. < 1471719458 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should look as boring as possible instead. < 1471719513 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps offer a substitute button to let us push as much as possible. And all it'll do is increment an integer. And at unknown times it'd sometimes, unexpectedly, jump up by two. < 1471719546 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: if you want buttons to push why don't you read SMBC? < 1471719555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advice. < 1471719617 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses saturday is not the friendliest day of essentially telling someone "the wiki is open for you, if you're _fast_"
< 1471719618 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I already do that. < 1471719652 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a lot of red button pushing once in a while
< 1471719665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anyway, the idea of the button would be to solve the problem of admins not always being present < 1471719712 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it really _would_ be too tempting to push. < 1471719794 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how would we know when to toggle the button again? it should be an off-only button with a timer < 1471719821 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could toggle it off if someone legitimately wants to edit the wiki. < 1471719850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there'd be a pointer to this channel, as some messages already have) < 1471719873 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah, fair enough. and such a person would come here to ask someone to toggle? < 1471719884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully. < 1471719965 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be fine with making everyone come here to ask for the account creation password < 1471720044 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's possible. although then we have the question of how many should know that. note that we've had wiki spammers in the channel. < 1471720092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it shouldn't be said openly. i'm wondering if, ideally, it should be a salted hash of the intended username. < 1471720105 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally we'd have a source for one-time tokens... but that sounds like a lot of effort < 1471720106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the captcha system can support that. < 1471720120 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the hash sounds interesting. < 1471720143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's a kind of one-time token < 1471720155 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but with less logistics < 1471720244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm could we make the wiki produce the hash on a page only some people can see? < 1471720285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although then we'd probably want logging of when someone looks at it, hm < 1471720290 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just in case) < 1471720298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION unfortunately knows almost nothing about mediawiki.
< 1471720342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know too much myself < 1471720351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just starting to figure out the filtering thing < 1471720433 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some sort of endorsement system... many ways of doing that in principle... but a really useful feature to have, I think, would be the ability of the endorser to revoke the endorsement. I wonder if there's an existing mediawiki plugin for that. < 1471720483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are user groups, and filters can mention those, i think < 1471720518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so admi^Wbureaucrats can revoke it < 1471720553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although filters don't activate just on reading, hm < 1471720559 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, scenario: We have some prospective user and they found a typo... so they come here and ask for an account. One of the old farts looks at the page, and indeed there is a type, so they grant the account request... if the user then starts spamming, what do we do? < 1471720581 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we want the button as well. < 1471720749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although hm, that complicates things. < 1471720781 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it means the hash cannot be used as a workaround for the button. < 1471720801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm it couldn't anyhow, unless it also hashes the approximate time. it should do that. < 1471720853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows even less about mediawiki plugins. there's probably relevant ones...
< 1471720866 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*'re < 1471720908 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Stable_extensions ... 871 ... ouch :) < 1471720946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(proscribed) contraction of there are See there're." and then a quote from Lennon's Imagine < 1471721246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Extension:AntiSpam is commercial :( < 1471721252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1471721345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think AntiSpoof was a recommended addon in the abuse filter docs < 1471721396 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it adds a function for normalizing text, which could be useful to catch those quickbooks titles < 1471721577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if Bad Behavior might be useful
< 1471721602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm might not be maintained < 1471721674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extension:BOFH wasn't as relevant as one might hope < 1471721678 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think we could run an instance of cluebot? < 1471721702 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1471721719 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have an irc channel < 1471721723 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on cluenet < 1471721756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't we have Extension:Brainfuck it makes no sense < 1471721937 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CloseWikis < 1471721946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but might be too heavy-handed < 1471721974 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe York has a combination Thai restaurant, cocktail bar, and internet café < 1471721984 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's such a strange combo < 1471721992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it's GPL licensed, that's a problem < 1471721997 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1471722014 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even agpl < 1471722016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i'm sure boily will tell you that's completely reasonable hth < 1471722029 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: because our wiki is CC0 < 1471722043 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :...soo? < 1471722050 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that only the contributions on the article itself? < 1471722059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANAL OKAY < 1471722060 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the pages < 1471722062 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't that contents... < 1471722065 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair < 1471722099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose. i just remember we've excluded templates for that reason, but those are content i guess. < 1471722144 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean mediawiki itself is GPL anyway. < 1471722186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1471722247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extension:DiggButton < 1471722262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is that stable as in not breathing ) < 1471722285 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very important extension for sure < 1471722484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently digg isn't quite dead. not that i would have known. < 1471722676 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :still digging its grave < 1471722691 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck I don't even know what exactly it was/is. < 1471722730 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the obvious, a way of installing tracking beacons on many websites < 1471722856 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It once upon a time was analogous to reddit. < 1471722881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it made some _really_ bad design decisions, and reddit ate most of their users. < 1471722900 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1471722953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think reddit was already better before that, and they just needed a push?) < 1471722978 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit was not just better, it'd already been eating Digg's userbase. < 1471723013 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not as much or as dramatically. < 1471723115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't read reddit's default front page for a long time, and wonders if they've ever become profitable...
< 1471723136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me most of the ads are still self ads. < 1471723181 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4c7c:e173:2ae1:2583 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471723185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/most/almost all/ < 1471723256 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm. https://techcrunch.com/2015/02/18/reddit-charity/ < 1471723270 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like they are, actually, profitable. < 1471723277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1471723347 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they haven't been profitable for very long http://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-ceo-admits-were-still-in-the-red-2013-7?IR=T < 1471723358 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and perhaps they aren't right now... who knows) < 1471723429 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :red-dit < 1471723539 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Howard Taylor... where are you going with this Schlock-with-a-conscience thing? < 1471724214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that Extension:Lock[dD]own has a note that it's difficult to restrict read access to only some pages.
< 1471724450 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay :-/ < 1471724460 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was in high school we made a musical called lockdown < 1471724521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough extensions, anyway < 1471725740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn carpenting neighbors < 1471726224 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471727527 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471727562 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471727729 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471727754 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471728177 0 :sJCZPnWMfB!~sJCZPnWMf@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471728671 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471728965 0 :sJCZPnWMfB!~sJCZPnWMf@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471729010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds today's mezzacotta appropriately absurd.
< 1471729323 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471729580 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/?comic=5 < 1471729598 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I couldn't find any meaning in that mezzacotta at all < 1471729616 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pomh starts out well < 1471729643 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, https://travis-ci.org/lambdabot/lambdabot/builds/153838749 < 1471729942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i didn't say it was meaningful hth < 1471729958 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471730009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ais523 < 1471730018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: behold our recent carnage < 1471730020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1471730026 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what sort of carnage? < 1471730036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the spammers got through again < 1471730045 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, spam < 1471730050 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they've learned how newlines work, what a problem < 1471730054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1471730076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made an emergency filter that simply shuts out new users. < 1471730130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were also some without newlines that nevertheless would have passed except for that filter < 1471730133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1471730178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed your filter to < 24 hours old instead of "no edits". i think it may have helped a little. < 1471730199 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure this is a different filter than the previous one < 1471730202 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, a different spambot < 1471730213 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess someone else has learned how to solve the CAPTCHA < 1471730216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is more than one, i think < 1471730229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quickbooks ones also got through < 1471730243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by occasionally including newlines) < 1471730274 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, yes < 1471730282 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickbooks spammers are spamming to < 1471730288 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they've got a programmer helping them < 1471730292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471730325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whatever you did to filter 7, you started triggering it yourself < 1471730327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple of legitimate edits were caught. int-e redid one of them by hand, and i notified the other on github. < 1471730362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i had > instead of < at one point, and was editing some pages without newlines :P < 1471730375 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1471730392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the error messages for the filters) < 1471730495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been thinking that the fact that all admins are frequently absent is a big part of the problem now < 1471730539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because once the spammers get through, they really make things noisy for a while < 1471730546 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you cleaned up all of the latest spam attack < 1471730558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the remaining problem is to find some way to determine who's a spammer, either whitelist-based or blacklist-based < 1471730645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\_ called some ...isp or phone operator of the quickbooks spammers, said they were being dealt with < 1471730656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(level 3, was it) < 1471730664 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, level3 are one of the backbone companies < 1471730690 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they own a large proportion of the Internet's infrastructure < 1471730690 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as such, they rarely deal with end users directly < 1471730710 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be the case that the spammers' ISP is refusing to do anything about spam and so level3 have decided to disconnect the entire ISP < 1471730713 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that'd be pretty extreme < 1471730817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, at this point i'm starting to get more worried about the _next_ bout of spammers - the ones that will break whatever filter we come up with now < 1471730851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my "big button" idea in the logs < 1471730912 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, food -> < 1471731300 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one simple start would simply be to ban the word "quickbooks" entirely from article text < 1471731333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spambots are presumably doing this in the hope that someone will find the page in search engine results < 1471731343 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so masking the name that they want people to search on wouldn't help them at all < 1471731518 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think we should start by making a page that's specifically for people's first edits, a kind of "second-level CAPTCHA" < 1471731525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "Esolang:Introduce yourself" < 1471731587 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would allow an implementation of the "big red button" idea via checking for a particular string in the /old/ version of the page and disallowing the edit < 1471731766 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its CAPTCHA properties could be adjusted by admins (and anyone else we grant spam filter access to), rather than needing a sysadmin to do it < 1471732019 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a think that would be broken by captcha solvers who aren't paid until they make one successful edit. < 1471732036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if the spammers have thought that far yet < 1471732083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we've had people go as far as to join the channel, so i wouldn't put that as impossible. < 1471732108 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, this isn't sufficient, but I fear it's necessary < 1471732240 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm slightly worried about that feature i think i've seen you trigger once where a filter gets automatically disabled. < 1471732265 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which the spammer could in theory trigger simply by trying enough times, no? < 1471732272 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we reconfigured the abuse filter to disable the feature, IIRC < 1471732278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good < 1471732288 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more suited for large sights like Wikipedia where a filter hitting everything normally means it's misconfigured < 1471732310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, while for us, when spammers hit, they _are_ the majority of edits for a while. < 1471732316 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*large sites < 1471732322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, we can set a rate limit on edits site-wide < 1471732325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would help while we're not here < 1471732346 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, no, I think it's only a per-user rate limit which is much less useful < 1471732358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed something about group throttling in the filter documentation, although it required some caching < 1471732391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the option seemed greyed out (although still editable), so i'm suspecting we don't have that < 1471732416 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49613 5* 03Ais523 5* (+645) 10an experiment in stopping spammers < 1471732418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if we had that, we could, i think, rate limit filters for everyone < 1471732455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't actually test that it _was_ disabled though) < 1471732473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge 9503644237>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ < 1471732474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :317005898 < 1471732480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49614&oldid=49613 5* 03213.205.252.208 5* (+157) 10/* Introductions */ < 1471732485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1471732493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, why did that go through? < 1471732500 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting it to get caught in the filter < 1471732506 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what filter :P < 1471732511 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1471732514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disabled filter 8 when i logged in < 1471732524 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's disabled, right < 1471732544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only needed when no one's keeping track. also i'm waiting for this guy i notified to actually register. < 1471732569 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we can check for a confirmed email but I have the feeling that the spammers have a supply of those too < 1471732576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said we might have to shut it down again, but i may not have implied it urgent enough. < 1471732639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this introduce yourself solution should work, now < 1471732662 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since they seem to employ people for captchas already < 1471732692 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually one problem with this is < 1471732699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's one problem though, this version of the red button won't shut down spammers that have already made that first edit. < 1471732703 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that if a user's an IP we can't track if they introduced themself or not < 1471732711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1471732812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would be better if there was a way to change a global status of the wiki - green being normal, like now; red being shut down for new users (including recently registered ones), and maybe a yellow one for intermediate. < 1471732837 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in intermediate I guess we'd ban edits by IPs and require new users to introduce and then wait 24 hours < 1471732846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to give us a chance to block them if the introduction didn't look reasonable) < 1471732856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1471732884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1471732985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking intermediate shouldn't require 24 hours, but if someone slips through we can change to red < 1471733027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" being non-admins < 1471733033 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can split up the admin bits in the mediawiki config and give abuse filter permissions to people who are more active < 1471733039 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an easy way to change global status < 1471733128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1471733259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I'm hoping is that the spammers can't see the old content of the page, which would make introducing yourself basically impossble < 1471733268 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the instructions I set down < 1471733273 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think that's fairly unlikely < 1471733290 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point I'm almost willing to believe that the spam's being copied-and-pasted onto pages by humans < 1471733354 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@226.97.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1471733372 0 :Shubshub!~IceChat9@226.97.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PART #esoteric : < 1471733467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some that make new sections in old pages, anyway. or is that just talk pages? < 1471733468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49615&oldid=49614 5* 03Ais523 5* (+183) 10looks like this is only technically possible for registered users (as IPs don't have an edit count) < 1471733493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's probably spambots that aren't specific to MediaWiki and just click on every link they can find, sometimes they find the "new section" link < 1471733501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471733518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find one of those i was thinking of... < 1471733564 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/910]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/9/diff/prev/48]]) < 1471733575 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enabled yet < 1471733580 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/6589 is like you say < 1471733723 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that looks very much like a spambot that doesn't realise it's attacking MediaWiki < 1471733788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-introduce-yourself14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49616 5* 03Ais523 5* (+300) 10how to introduce yourself < 1471733842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "attacks" < 1471733871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1471733880 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-introduce-yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49617&oldid=49616 5* 03Ais523 5* (-2) 10typo fix < 1471733888 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have fixed it yourself, you know ;-) < 1471733906 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, 9 doesn't match any of the edits that have gone through recently (because 8 was stopping them all) < 1471733916 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1471733927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except int-e's < 1471733931 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to enable it and then try to register an account, both acting like a spambot and acting like me < 1471733950 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, 9 doesn't match that one because it's int-e's first edit < 1471733951 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8 did though) < 1471733957 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*because it isn't int-e's first edit < 1471733966 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1471734001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/910]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/9/diff/prev/49]]) < 1471734026 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem with 9 is that it disables anon edits full stop, which is a fairly major step < 1471734029 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not sure if we want it active all the time < 1471734050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1471734059 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge 9166200647>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ < 1471734060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :323649568 < 1471734067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49618&oldid=45630 5* 03213.205.252.208 5* (+6) 10testing this < 1471734072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471734113 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, user_editcount is blank rather than 0 < 1471734116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an anon < 1471734126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :use = i think < 1471734134 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*guess < 1471734160 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/910]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/9/diff/prev/50]]) < 1471734184 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the same trick i used with user_age. i don't know PHP anyway :P < 1471734197 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge 9538880508>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ < 1471734198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :347089973 < 1471734201 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471734202 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471734202 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I'm using the same trick < 1471734218 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471734219 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471734225 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it asked me to introduce myself < 1471734232 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let's see if I can create an account < 1471734271 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge 9081483707>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ < 1471734272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :305279838 < 1471734279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ais523 spam filter tester 5* 10New user account < 1471734288 0 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1471734315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't give the warning for some reason < 1471734317 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disallowed it though < 1471734342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471734352 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it worked that time < 1471734357 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's because I created the account while editing the page < 1471734378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually this is correct, because I tried to /not/ introduce myself, but rather repeat the action < 1471734384 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so MediaWiki considered that I'd already been warned, and of course I had been < 1471734408 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to introduce ourself now? < 1471734441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: only for very new accounts < 1471734444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll point out that the instructions don't actually say you cannot include any links < 1471734469 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know! they also don't say you can't write more than 3 KiB of text < 1471734477 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was intentional but we can clarify the exact rules if you want < 1471734483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* 3 KB < 1471734522 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can just put short in italics < 1471734556 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/study-about-butter-funded-by-butter-industry-finds-that-butter-is-bad-for-you-20150809-giuuia.html < 1471734556 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone explain this scheme < 1471734558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to clarify the exact rules if you want < 1471734582 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: basically, your first edit has to be to a particular page and follow a few simple rules that are relatively easy for humans to follow, but much harder for spambots < 1471734621 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pm me details? < 1471734636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need for a PM; see http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Introduce_yourself < 1471734652 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49619&oldid=49615 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+30) 10clarify < 1471734717 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:8554:a76e:9174:62c5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471734729 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my introduction attempts are getting caught in the filter, let me see what's wrong < 1471734776 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the diff doesn't have signatures expanded < 1471734781 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy enough to fix though < 1471734801 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: will a correct edit automatically grant permissions for more general editing? < 1471734816 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471734844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/910]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/9/diff/prev/51]]) < 1471734875 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, now what's going wrong? < 1471734973 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1471734984 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know. An idea: when does the "~~~~" expansion happen? < 1471734995 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I've tested that both ways though < 1471734997 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1471735017 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471735027 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll just get rid of that bit and see if it's the problem < 1471735049 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use the edit diff, which is actually visible < 1471735053 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the edit filter debug view < 1471735053 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471735067 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, looking at the details of the filter hits it seems that the ~~~~ match should work fine. < 1471735180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/910]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/9/diff/prev/52]]) < 1471735186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471735197 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, 9 stopped a spambot while I was testing it :-) < 1471735215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49620&oldid=49619 5* 03Ais523 spam filter tester 5* (+322) 10/* Introductions */ introducing myself < 1471735221 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1471735224 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I should be able to edit other pages < 1471735250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49621&oldid=49618 5* 03Ais523 spam filter tester 5* (-6) 10the spam filter should let me edit now < 1471735260 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, this seems to be working < 1471735273 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't surprise me if the spammers find a way around it, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they don't < 1471735285 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it should catch basically 100% of spam that isn't targeted at the site < 1471735302 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still confused at how many spammers are solving the befunge captcha, though < 1471735323 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471735336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that \n- for < 1471735370 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleting anything from the page < 1471735374 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're matching against a diff here < 1471735379 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471735392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after any newline, we have + for an insertion, - for a deletion, space for a context line < 1471735406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're using the diff for everything for efficiency? < 1471735434 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly debuggability < 1471735438 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows in the edit filter debug view < 1471735444 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other variables I was trying to use don't < 1471735478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... let me remove the first line of that page... mwahaha < 1471735522 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I didn't even think of that :-) < 1471735532 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides I think it'll still get noticed < 1471735540 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because diffs start with a line of metadata < 1471735559 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point. < 1471735634 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, we may want to disable filter 9 to allow anon editing at non-spammy times < 1471735639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes this won't scare away legitimate users
< 1471735645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1471735656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's surely got to be less scary than the Befunge < 1471735668 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if some spambot framework somewhere now has a Befunge interpreter embedded in it
< 1471735669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah but the befunge is still there :P < 1471735696 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, what we really need is an esolang with a backdoor < 1471735711 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if a user's detected as a spambot, we can remotely compromise it via the CAPTCHA < 1471735713 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471735726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD XD XD < 1471735785 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't befunge by itself already powerful enough for that? < 1471735817 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-88-34.dyn.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471735817 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@tx-76-1-88-34.dyn.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Changing host < 1471735817 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471735820 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, close enough to arbitrary code execution) < 1471735843 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's an arbitrary code execution command, even in -93 I think < 1471735856 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not specified what it does, exactly < 1471735861 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C system() is a common implementation < 1471735863 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:8554:a76e:9174:62c5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471735881 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, it's 98 < 1471735887 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably though the spammers would use some JS implementation < 1471735899 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if the spam is manual < 1471735915 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if it's automated they could well use cfunge or something < 1471735945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge98 <@="echo Hello World" < 1471735967 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if we even have a befunge98 interp < 1471735977 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ibin < 1471735978 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ adjust \ asm \ axo \ bch \ befunge \ befunge98 \ bf \ bf16 \ bf32 \ bf8 \ bf_txtgen \ boolfuck \ c \ cintercal \ clcintercal \ cxx \ dimensifuck \ forth \ glass \ glypho \ haskell \ help \ java \ k \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ malbolge \ pbrain \ perl \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ sh \ slashes \ trigger \ udage01 \ und < 1471735989 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we do < 1471735989 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have a backdoor? < 1471735989 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... don't make a habit of this. here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1471735997 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my syntax was wrong, or maybe = isn't implemented < 1471736011 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think fungot didn't like the questino < 1471736011 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... phew... thank you darling. < 1471736014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1471736026 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you sound like a broken record < 1471736026 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: see? i like marle better than " princess,' the chosen time has come! he's strong and he's gonna thrash those monsters! yea! is it? < 1471736035 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, CT < 1471736036 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1471736036 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1471736048 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1471736048 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1471736055 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1471736057 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge98 3y.@ < 1471736057 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1128682830 < 1471736072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printf "%x" 1128682830 < 1471736072 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"0" 1128682830 < 1471736079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "%x" 1128682830 < 1471736079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4346554e < 1471736097 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "\x4e\x55\x46\x43" < 1471736098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUFC < 1471736101 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge, I guess < 1471736111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc <<<1128682830P < 1471736112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFUN < 1471736133 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc has a command for decoding Befunge handprint notation? < 1471736164 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc has a command for printing base 256 numbers as sequences of bytes < 1471736192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how convenient < 1471736223 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge98 <@.="echo Hello World" < 1471736243 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be that there's some sort of sandboxing < 1471736245 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC cfunge had an option to avoid the use of dangerous commands like = < 1471736245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc <<<28752pP | dc | dc < 1471736248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :28752 \ pP < 1471736275 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge98 <@.2.="true".1 < 1471736284 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! befunge98 <@.2.1 < 1471736291 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 < 1471736292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file interps/befunge98 < 1471736294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps/befunge98: ERROR: cannot open `interps/befunge98' (No such file or directory) < 1471736300 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file ibin/befunge98 < 1471736300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file interp/befunge98 < 1471736301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interp/befunge98: ERROR: cannot open `interp/befunge98' (No such file or directory) < 1471736301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibin/befunge98: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable < 1471736308 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ibin/befunge98 < 1471736312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ . lib/interp \ interp_file "./interps/cfunge/cfunge -S" < 1471736326 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up what -S does
< 1471736355 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-S Enable sandbox mode (see README for details). < 1471736369 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a good argument for turning that off inside HackEgo < 1471736374 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can also see a good argument for leaving it on < 1471736424 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as? < 1471736440 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems a bit pointless to me < 1471736443 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning it off = because HackEgo has an outer sandbox < 1471736457 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving it on = because people might not expect `! to have side effects < 1471736490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! sh echo "they don't?" >test < 1471736504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what. < 1471736511 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file ibin/sh < 1471736548 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, fair enough < 1471736556 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1471736602 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo doesn't seem quite well < 1471736944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: HackEgo has some trouble < 1471736944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471736947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471736957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471736965 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1471736975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1471737001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, good night < 1471737007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZZ < 1471737104 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1471737105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1471737113 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1471737113 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1471737294 0 :MoonyTheDwarf!~MoonyTheD@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471737567 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've arrived in Kelowna < 1471737595 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYLW < 1471737595 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYLW 202231Z AUTO 17004KT 120V200 6SM HZ CLR 32/07 A2980 RMK SLP084 DENSITY ALT 3800FT < 1471737638 0 :\oren\_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically, I arrived a while ago but we had some errands before checkin at the hotel) < 1471737668 0 :\oren\_!?@? NICK :\oren\ < 1471737931 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How uh confusing < 1471737935 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone there < 1471737992 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Kelowna smaller or larger than Hexham? < 1471738021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kelowna has a very small runway, which we barely stopped before the end of < 1471738084 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Kelowna is about 10× as big as Hexham < 1471738091 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it's not that much of a coincidence < 1471738097 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatively speaking < 1471738325 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum. < 1471738356 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: vacation? conference? < 1471738533 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1471738533 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 202250Z AUTO 23015KT 9999 BKN016 16/13 Q1009 TEMPO -SHRA BKN014 < 1471739510 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1471739510 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 202320Z AUTO 10004KT 9999 BKN061/// BKN088/// OVC120/// 16/14 Q1014 < 1471739515 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashes, eh < 1471739794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew someone there. < 1471739846 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: my uncle's wedding < 1471741519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471741535 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471741600 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471741921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised nobody ever invented a Lunacentric model of the universe < 1471741965 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because you can actually see with your bare eyes that this is wrong < 1471742008 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :win 27 < 1471742010 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1471742032 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt+j is way better < 1471742055 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in my irssi. < 1471742064 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define it < 1471742082 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily define itnup to 36 < 1471742177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, and stop winning? < 1471742191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how I would define it up to 36. < 1471742222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: How? I can't think of a way < 1471742226 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 to 0 and a to z (the later in order of appearance on your keyboard layout" < 1471742245 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time.i checked, 10+26 was 36 < 1471742310 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Alt-a already means "jump to window with activity". < 1471742326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt-b and alt-f mean jump backward and forward by a word < 1471742328 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how that's useful < 1471742337 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt-a is the most useful of all the keys. < 1471742355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt-d means delete a word. < 1471742359 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? i see which window has activities and jump to it directly < 1471742363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could rebind a few others to go past 19, though. < 1471742713 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471742743 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471743000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49622&oldid=49620 5* 03DatCodingGuy 5* (+389) 10/* Introductions */ < 1471744522 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I think it's working! < 1471744528 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a legitimate user, almost certainly) < 1471744573 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm, they somehow found it without the message telling them to < 1471744595 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not their first edit < 1471744601 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they saw it in recent changes and decided to join the party < 1471745728 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Maybe instead of making mechanisms so spammers can't spam, we should make an example out of people who do < 1471745743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up medieval torture methods
< 1471745967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471745984 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go through MLP:FiM and extract every usage of teleportation in the series < 1471746369 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when was teleportaton a medieval torture method? < 1471747952 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471749171 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49623&oldid=49592 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+0) 10 < 1471749645 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471750092 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471750415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Those were two unrelated thoughts separated by nearly 5 minutes of intermittent time < 1471750447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But since you have to ask, you can teleport sharp objects into the liver < 1471752327 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kflabdsqdfxslotz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471752433 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-imqzrkgopjgjofyz JOIN :#esoteric < 1471752774 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1471753087 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he should try FTL
< 1471753094 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is vaguely aware that ais523 likes it
< 1471753150 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUt seeing the video just makes me want to play Space Station 13 < 1471753203 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what evidence is there that the moon is the center of everything? < 1471753220 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classically, all heavy things tend to move towards the earth, so presumably the earth is the center of everything. < 1471753224 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What evidence is there that the earth is? < 1471753269 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The heavy-things-move-towards-earth thing. < 1471753288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: The lunacentric model wouldn't exist because someone just thought of it; it would either be cultural or as a parodical response to either geocentrists or heliocentrists < 1471753298 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1471753319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something made around when heliocentrism was proposed, as a "yeah, that's just as absurd as this other thing" < 1471753436 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nyow. < 1471753457 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read this post on the MIRI blog. < 1471753481 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It posits an interesting type of machine: the "reflective oracle". < 1471753494 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme talk about how the reflective oracle works. < 1471753572 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "reflective oracle machine", or ROM, is a Turing machine that is capable of performing a special operation, the reflective oracle operation. < 1471753633 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reflective oracle operation attempts to answer this question: "Would a reflective oracle machine halt if given such-and-such input?" < 1471753660 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, reflective oracle machines are probabilistic, so the reflective oracle operation can't give the correct answer all of the time. < 1471753665 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But here's what it does do. < 1471753698 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's MORE than a 50% chance that a ROM would halt given the input, it says "yes". < 1471753711 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's LESS than a 50% chance that a ROM would halt given the input, it says "no". < 1471753730 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And finally, if there's EXACTLY a 50% chance that a ROM would halt given the input, then the result is unspecified. < 1471753798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abjad" is a stupid word < 1471753806 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could always be yes, it could always be no, or it could be random. < 1471753813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, it should be called an "lphbt" < 1471754398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna write up an Esolang page describing a language that takes advantage of this. < 1471754422 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the blog post, by the way. https://intelligence.org/2016/06/30/grain-of-truth/ < 1471754505 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name I'm going to give it is the most obvious abbreviation of the phrase "Brainfuck Reflective Oracle Machine". < 1471754983 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471755340 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471755873 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471756637 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I add the proper text into a contributing agreement to ensure that any patents will be freely usable and will be usable with GPL-compatible terms, even though the contribution is in the public domain? < 1471756778 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, bah, unlike the "true/false/no answer" halting oracle, there's no trivial implementation I think < 1471756791 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: any patents on what? < 1471756837 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patents on the contributed code. < 1471756870 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the code that *you* contribute? You don't need to say anything; other people can't patent stuff that you invented. < 1471756903 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The agreement is for if anyone contribute something, not just myself < 1471756984 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone contributes something to what? A project that you control, or a project someone else controls? < 1471756992 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A project that I control. < 1471757108 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been asked to make a contribution agreement, and part of the details about how to do so are specified (the part about copyright), but part about patent is also needed. My intention is that the patent is freely license for use with free-software/open-source without needing any kind of notifications or payments or whatever, and can be used freely by private use, and is compatible with the terms of GPL3. < 1471757193 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could say that each contributor must release their contribution into the public domain AND release it under the GPL3. < 1471757924 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/179185 - someone post this to the wiki thanks. < 1471757931 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seem a bit strange to me isn't it? < 1471757951 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of. < 1471757980 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GPL3 is primarily a copyright license, and of course the copyright provisions of the license are redundant with being in the public domain. < 1471757985 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a patent license too. < 1471758000 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I feel like this is probably your easiest, simplest, and most effective option. < 1471758003 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not a patent license < 1471758015 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a coppyright license that, as a condition of copying, requires a patent license < 1471758058 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says: "Each contributor grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license ..." < 1471758106 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/935e6a28b8c29d6ea4ffb940ec7dc9a7a387ae59.bfjoust < 1471758111 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/935e6a28b8c29d6ea4ffb940ec7dc9a7a387ae59.bfjoust < 1471758115 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points 41.67, score 302.42, rank 1/47 (+46) < 1471758119 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems pretty clear that if I say "I'm releasing such-and-such under the GPL3", that means I'm granting a patent license. < 1471758142 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoying. < 1471758158 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: annoying to be winning? < 1471758172 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not working as intended. :( < 1471758250 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test < < 1471758255 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test < < 1471758256 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-46) < 1471758263 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Yes, I know that, and that is how I am confuse to try to figure out how it is to do! < 1471758303 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: are you trying to beat everything on the hill at every length and polarity < 1471758307 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471758317 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That took 2 days to compute, and it didn't even work. < 1471758318 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1471758346 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'll be appreciative if you do. i can strike it off my long-term to-do list < 1471758357 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/935e6a28b8c29d6ea4ffb940ec7dc9a7a387ae59.bfjoust < 1471758361 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points 41.67, score 302.42, rank 1/47 (+46) < 1471758369 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so to start with, you are Canadian, there is no concept of "public domain" < 1471758389 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except by expiration of copyright) < 1471758406 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually fall back to CC0 anyways, because now I have put that in as someone's suggestion. < 1471758422 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wish to ensure that no one can add patent encumberance to your code, you need to use copyleft < 1471758444 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test < < 1471758445 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-46) < 1471758448 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :300 KB though < 1471758449 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bad < 1471758459 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise your license could be changed when a third party distributes it < 1471758512 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only wish to ensure that nobody contributes patent encumbered code to the main repository for my program. < 1471758520 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone makes their own copy, they can do what they want with it. < 1471758552 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: although i would appreciate it more if you could please avoid the use of any brackets? and also call the result "look_ma_no_brackets"? < 1471758614 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... I'm not 100% sure that's possible. < 1471758615 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471758638 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ultimate goal is to have a big list of bots *not* on the hill. < 1471758661 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And distinguish as many of them as possible to go into a "general purpose" algorithm so it still beats bots that aren't known. < 1471758662 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...there comes a certain number of bots where it isn't possible < 1471758738 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/6sXxNmi5 < 1471758739 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471758768 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone make the software proprietary then I don't care, but I do intend to stop them from suing anyone (under patent law) that does not make the software proprietary. And that they will agree to license the patents in a way compatible with GPL3, too. < 1471758792 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably easiest to just use GPLv3 then < 1471758802 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for debugging. < 1471758814 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I have evaluation errors < 1471758896 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: i wonder why preparation is beating it so badly! < 1471758915 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably my VM has a bug and doesn't evaluate it correctly < 1471758923 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust < 1471758923 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "!zjoust progname code". See http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for documentation. < 1471758940 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a misdetection. it didn't identify the flag at all < 1471758942 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippo_ballerina is simpler, and also seems to be a sore case < 1471759008 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, problem is < 1471759020 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be because it's evaluating preperation wrong, or because I have some weird issue. < 1471759032 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *should* be impossible for it to generate code that behaves differently from its "botting" < 1471759033 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :But. < 1471759047 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the VM has a bug, it will simulate the opponent wrong. < 1471759057 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1471759061 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, your vm is slow? < 1471759091 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust anti-hippo https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/29aa8b4899ac8370e8903634b8f78e7db9b91c84.bfjoust < 1471759093 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not optimized < 1471759097 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust anti-hippo https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/29aa8b4899ac8370e8903634b8f78e7db9b91c84.bfjoust < 1471759099 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.anti-hippo: points -33.64, score 3.67, rank 47/47 < 1471759146 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I'm so tempted to take your "test" and resubmit it myself. < 1471759168 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanie < 1471759176 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just have to submit a bigger better version ;P < 1471759187 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be kind of dishonest-slash-jerkish of me, though. < 1471759194 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I wrote for my contribution agreement is it good? http://sprunge.us/DHTW (the LICENSE file is a copy of the CC0 legal code) < 1471759204 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1471759238 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I'm not actually sure if my VM is slow, actually. < 1471759244 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, the second paragraph is unclear. < 1471759251 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if some programs just have nasty constructs that mess with it. < 1471759259 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh fuck < 1471759264 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I'm not using linked lists for the bytecode. < 1471759307 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oppps < 1471759315 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot Scala's default immutable list isn't for indexing < 1471759331 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I am not so good at writing it. Do you know how to write what I meant more clearly? < 1471759374 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as for the first paragraph: I would say "you place" and "you grant the ability" instead of "you agree to place" and "you agree to grant the ability". < 1471759377 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go, fixed that < 1471759398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read once that it was found that "agreeing to release" something under a license is not the same as *actually* releasing it. < 1471759401 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better now < 1471759406 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust nyuroki >>->>--->++++>>(+)*6>(-)*7>[(<)*8[(>)*8(+)*128.+.](>)*12[>>>>(+)*128.+.]<[>>>>(+)*128.+.]>>>(+)*128.+.]>[(<)*9[(>)*9(+)*128.+.](>)*17(+)*128.+.]>[(<)*8[(>)*8(+)*128.+.](>)*16(+)*128.+.]>[(<)*9[(>)*9(+)*128.+.](>)*17(+)*128.+.]>[(<)*7[(>)*7(+)*36(<)*10[(>)*10(+)*48(<)*12[(>)*12(+)*44.+.]]](>)*15(+)*128.+.]>[<<<<[>>>>(+)*128.+.](>)*12(+)*128.+.]>>>[<<[(>)*8(+)*128.+.]>[(>)*8(+)*128.+.](>)*9(+)*128.+.]>>[<[(>)*8(+)*128.+.](>)*9( < 1471759406 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: error: parse error: starting ( without a matching ) < 1471759406 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :+)*128.+.]>[(>)*8(+)*128.+.](>)*9(+)*128.+. < 1471759408 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1471759419 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust nyuroki_killer https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/e5852992609072879371c67ff209e8d3684feabb.bfjoust < 1471759422 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki_killer: points -31.95, score 4.51, rank 47/47 < 1471759450 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure I have an evaluation bug < 1471759513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: OK I fixed the first paragraph. < 1471759525 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to fix the second paragraph? < 1471759536 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as for the second paragraph, I don't see why you don't just say "If you have any patents in your contributions, you also release your contributions under the GPL3." < 1471759538 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: i think the output may not be what you intended? because if you watch vs preparation length 30 kettle you see it eventually stops going back to its own flag and instead goes somewhere a few cells out? or is that intentional? < 1471759549 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a fixed bug < 1471759569 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, huh. < 1471759573 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1471759586 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how it could bug like that, unless somehow it failed to track it's own data pointer < 1471759671 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1471759677 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, it's probably actually an detection failure. < 1471759685 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using [] for if/else < 1471759693 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it probably looped back, which isn't supposed to happen. < 1471759698 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I intend this patent license is usable even if the code remains public-domain/CC0 or they make derivative works that may be license by BSD or MIT license or Apache license and not only limited to GPL3, but so that the patent license does not prohibit anything that is prohibited by GPL3. < 1471759767 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With dual licensing, the permissions add together. < 1471759773 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if they want to license the patent in such a way that it cannot be used in proprietary software, that is OK and should not be impacted by this agreement. (I actually think that patent law should be abolished entirely, but such agreements obviously don't change the law.) < 1471759792 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your contributors release everything under both CC0 and GPL3, then people will be allowed to use it as if it were only released under CC0. < 1471759884 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust nyuroki_killer < < 1471759884 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.nyuroki_killer: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471759885 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: yeah i agree. it happened right after this: (27>)27(8+)8(27<)27(27>)27+++++..] < 1471759887 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/7bf4c61c499b562017d03669b7c12e853fb538e4.bfjoust < 1471759891 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points 44.05, score 498.13, rank 1/47 < 1471759904 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: so you should probably get rid of any brackets ;) < 1471759926 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais clearly likes some program contruct that screws with my code. < 1471759932 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test < < 1471759933 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-46) < 1471759937 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also) < 1471759945 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It runs in 60 seconds now, opps) < 1471759960 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Seq->IndexedSeq was my problem) < 1471759977 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: said "program construct" is locks i warrant < 1471760005 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *shouldn't* actually get locked. < 1471760014 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be failing at detecting the program at all. < 1471760018 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. triplocks on multiple cells simultaneously < 1471760023 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means something wrong with the VM < 1471760377 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471760488 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/TsBLIhA.gifv < 1471760949 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD that last one < 1471760983 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes I know that, but I would insist that any patent license is also usable according to the specifications of GPL3 even if they are using it only under CC0 or any other GPL-compatible license. < 1471761034 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will what you suggested work for this case? < 1471761323 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a good question. < 1471761356 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your contributors dual-license under CC0 and GPL3, then people will certainly be able to "use the patent license according to the specifications of GPL3". < 1471761377 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they won't be able to use the patent license in violation of the GPL3. < 1471761390 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK < 1471761416 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as the patent license can be used even if the software is not licensed under GPL3. < 1471761563 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you mean "can be used"? < 1471761578 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you wish to require people who modify your software to license any related patents? < 1471761588 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, a dual-license will not achieve that objective < 1471761600 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I intend they can use it for free even if they do not license it < 1471761612 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think we are talking about the same thing < 1471761628 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's suppose I am someone who modifies your software. < 1471761637 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who owns the patent you are referring to? Me or you < 1471761660 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither me nor you; it is someone who contributed code to my project. < 1471761726 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. So you want people who contribute to your project to issue a patent license, but if they distribute a modified version themselves they do not have to? < 1471761746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I am confused too. < 1471761794 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, let's say you release version 1.0 of your program. < 1471761794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should just mention that they have to agree that everyone has a perpetual non-revocable royalty-free patent license to use the relevant patents and that they are not allowed to sue anyone over these patents. < 1471761800 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be simpler, I think. < 1471761820 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If someone objects, they could file a ticket and then perhaps it could be changed.) < 1471761822 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett submits a patch which is included in v1.1 < 1471761830 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use v1.1 < 1471761837 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to make it so that tswett can't sue me? < 1471761889 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uh, lemme see if I can clarify here... < 1471761889 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I intend that tswett can't sue you, even if you use the same patented stuff in other free-software/open-source code (such as that based on v1.0 instead of v1.1, for example). < 1471761914 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but now if tswett makes a fork < 1471761917 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... I don't really know what you're asking. < 1471761927 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I use the fork in a way he doesn't like < 1471761944 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to stop him from suing me then? or only when it's your "official" version? < 1471761963 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend such fork still you have the license for any patents used in that one that are also used in the official version. < 1471761981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And therefore still they cannot sue you < 1471762015 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if the patents are not included in the official version? < 1471762068 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it is irrelevant as it does not seem to be in the scope of contribution agreement. < 1471762108 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would want to still not make them to sue you, but I cannot alter the laws and that is outside of the scope of the agreement anyways, so it doesn't seem right to put it in.) < 1471762194 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, yeah, you want CC0 licensing with a contribution agreement that states that you offer a patent license < 1471762208 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that the contributor offers a patent license < 1471762233 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably add a note to the license indicating that all contributors have agreed to license their patents as described < 1471762342 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I altered the license then it would not be the CC0 license. < 1471762402 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not altering the copyright license < 1471762421 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :but adding a patent license < 1471762429 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more accurately < 1471762440 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :drawing the user's attention to an extant patent license < 1471762453 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1471762737 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, anyway, yeah. < 1471762758 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I'm using an actual array instead of a linked list (the nasty part about collections libraries. :() < 1471762763 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs in 1 minute instead of 2 days. :D < 1471763259 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this better now? http://sprunge.us/WKZW < 1471763337 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trademark agreement also might be needed which specifies that if your contribution includes anything that is trademarked, that such trademarks can be used for compatibility purposes. Is this already implied by trademark law anyways though? I would think it is but I am unsure. < 1471763340 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:bc11:e1c7:d01a:384f JOIN :#esoteric < 1471763384 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you probably don't have to worry about trademark. < 1471763423 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the patent license better now? < 1471763432 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair use for trademark is very broad. "Coca-Cola" is a trademark, but I can still say it in IRC, write a book about Coca-Cola, make a YouTube video where I sing a song about Coca-Cola... < 1471763485 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I'm prohibited from doing is make people think I'm providing a Coca-Cola product or service, or otherwise representing the Coca-Cola brand in any way. < 1471763546 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can even say "Coca-Cola" in an advertisement for a competing soft drink, as long as the ad makes it clear that the soft drink is not a Coca-Cola product. < 1471763602 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that ReactOS has "Microsoft" in some parts of the registry for compatibility purposes, and a GameBoy cartridge can include the Nintendo logo for compatibility with GameBoy; these are what I meant by, ensure it can be used for compatibility purposes. < 1471763626 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's definitely allowed under fair use. < 1471763647 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then I do not need to add a trademark license to this agreement. < 1471763700 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, is the patent license better now? < 1471763757 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think I like it. I'm no lawyer, of course. There's just one change I suggest. < 1471763771 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what change do you suggest? < 1471763772 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change "multiple tiers" to "an unlimited number of tiers". < 1471763902 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took everything from "perpetual" to "otherwise transfer" (inclusive) from another contribution agreement (and it seems similar to many things I have seen before too), although I will change that, as it doesn't seem a problem to change that. < 1471763975 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All words surrounding that part are my own) < 1471764347 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have fixed it http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/info/684ffedc2a64e609 http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/info/e71ea80bbdcb339b < 1471769935 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471770272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471772846 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:8554:a76e:9174:62c5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471773499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471773647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes DatCodingGuy introduced himself :P
< 1471773737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might end up with a tradition here < 1471773917 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I am, what else do you need to know? ~~~~ ) < 1471773986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, that is sufficient < 1471774027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note the filter caught another type of spammer. < 1471774112 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long this will hold. < 1471774120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also seems to have caught a legitimate user who happened not to be logged in < 1471774123 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are we being targeted? It's hardly a high traffic wiki < 1471774137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i assume they're targeting everyone < 1471774145 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here. < 1471774186 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new system is still based on the assumption that, other than captcha solvers, we're not _specifically_ targeted. < 1471774235 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps they target wikis with between 500 and 5000 articles; wikis large enough to carry weight in a search engine but so small that they may be unmaintained. < 1471774250 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1471774262 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I pulled those numbers out of a hat) < 1471774287 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just making sure that 1071 is included in the range) < 1471774292 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers the mess that was the complexity Zoo wiki last he checked.
< 1471774306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it looks fine... but dont try the Random page button. < 1471774342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had not cleaned up spam created pages at _all_ - but made sure nothing important linked to them. < 1471774368 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did we reach the 1k mark anyway? < 1471774378 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, never mind < 1471774388 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1757 is the number I should be looking at. < 1471774445 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:bc11:e1c7:d01a:384f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471774484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are 5,742 registered users, but most of them are spambots." < 1471774516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one claim we don't have self-irony. < 1471774531 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it says 5738 here. oh perhaps because I'm not logged in and seeing a cached version < 1471774567 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, logging in makes a difference < 1471774623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the complexity zoo random button seems to give proper pages now. although i had to press it twice for some reason. < 1471774674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks a bit skewed, i keep getting the main page. < 1471774852 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what happens if you weight the pages by number of visits... < 1471774958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1471775298 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49624&oldid=49622 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+9) 10Add "external" because everyone's been adding internal ones anyway < 1471775875 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-introduce-yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49625&oldid=49617 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+102) 10Add something for old users forgetting to log in < 1471775943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-introduce-yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49626&oldid=49625 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10apparently that's not allowed < 1471777550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49627&oldid=49612 5* 03Primo 5* (+171) 10/* Print value of cell x as number for ANY sized cell (ie 8bit, 16bit, etc) */ < 1471781477 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471781912 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:6caf:c8c0:6e9e:fad JOIN :#esoteric < 1471782180 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:6caf:c8c0:6e9e:fad QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471784739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1471785880 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471786005 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471787488 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471787654 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1471790133 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471790924 0 :boily!~alexandre@24.48.34.70 QUIT :Quit: BORROWED CHICKEN < 1471793527 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to think of a faster algorithm for greater-than comparison of von-neuman-index encoded natural numbers (that might not be the correct term, it was used in setbang posts but I was unable to find same description under that name elsewhere) < 1471793596 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, von-neuman-index encoding works by representing a number as the set of two's exponents that added up make the number < 1471793617 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is applied recursively < 1471793660 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I(∅) = 0 I({a, b, c, …}) = 2^I(a) + 2^I(b) + 2^I(c) + … < 1471793741 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently, to determine if a > b, I first remove the intersection of the two sets from both (as this is equivalent to substraction, will not change the result of a > b) < 1471793775 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, if a is ∅, it's false, and if a is not ∅ but b is ∅, it's true < 1471793864 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :if both a and b are not ∅, I iterate through elements in a, looking for element e_a in a such that for any element e_b in b, e_a > e_b < 1471793886 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I find such an element, a is greater than b < 1471794024 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is basically removing bits both a and b have, and then seeing which one has higher highest-order-bit. as bits shared by both are removed, one of them is bound to have a higher one. and since 2^(n+1) > sum_{i=0}^n 2^n, that one is larger < 1471794086 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the algo is pretty bad runtimewise, recursively calling itself N(a) * N(b) times in the worst case < 1471794267 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd try unifying stuff, but that probably won't do much to the runtime < 1471794286 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :unifying? < 1471794312 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do younintersect < 1471794339 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, I({a,b}) = I({c,d}) isn't it? < 1471794369 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as a,b,c,d are empty sets, that is < 1471794398 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a set. it can only contain one empty set < 1471794417 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471794481 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, how do you intersect? < 1471794496 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take the insersection of two sets < 1471794517 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, but how do you do it on an algorithmical level < 1471794539 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the sets can be arbitrarily deep, solving intersection should be as hard as solving > < 1471794547 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently implementing this with python and frozenset() < 1471794570 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :which aiui uses hashing < 1471794596 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :so intersection is just taking the hashes the two sets have in common < 1471794605 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1471795012 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1471795017 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1471795018 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1471795065 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd I change, why is this code vulnerable to locks now < 1471795074 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I assume that's what's happening anyway < 1471795733 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :your newbie mode got turned off? < 1471795779 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471796296 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/72208c9952fe382088b2ef34880927ab5570eec7.bfjoust < 1471796299 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -10.31, score 12.81, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471796305 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaa < 1471796417 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471796426 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/50dff13fa4ddace578da97e7aa9501ae547d8d45.bfjoust < 1471796429 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -40.64, score 1.30, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471796694 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471796830 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/50dff13fa4ddace578da97e7aa9501ae547d8d45.bfjoust < 1471796832 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -40.64, score 1.30, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471797332 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/23cb931b70e702782a0fccc21ba6ff0d573060b7.bfjoust < 1471797336 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -39.64, score 1.54, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471797506 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/759dd7055ef7e14415bc676541d74a6d4296a94c.bfjoust < 1471797508 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -31.88, score 4.34, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471797994 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471798452 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/7cee2bfbba25d9d41fc2c81c04e5c86c15eaf362.bfjoust < 1471798454 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -31.45, score 4.48, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471798467 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1471798930 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any languages which parse reals differently depending on locale < 1471798953 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, with a continental Europe locale 3,1415 would be roughly pi? < 1471799018 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Excel count? < 1471799035 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also changes function names depending on locale, for extra fun < 1471799062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: most languages do that if you turn locale handling on < 1471799064 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C, for example < 1471799067 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it is off by default in C < 1471799093 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it's a global setting so it's not unheard of for someone other part of the code to turn it on by mistake) < 1471799128 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, what? < 1471799135 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was assuming in source code < 1471799147 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not functions parsing/prettyprinting reals < 1471799203 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471799211 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case the language parser would have to be /really/ screwed up < 1471799249 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw this sort of thing is the reason OpenOffice Calc uses ; as an argument separator < 1471799395 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I meant source code < 1471799604 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/ad30e6efef150681ddf2497c6e820bb205521d20.bfjoust < 1471799606 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points 43.98, score 507.17, rank 1/47 (+46) < 1471799637 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test < < 1471799638 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-46) < 1471800898 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471800945 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust kiseki https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/6bc22d8bc2f8b76f4f708d003266bc5227db0118.bfjoust < 1471800947 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points 45.07, score 734.29, rank 1/47 < 1471800980 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust kiseki < < 1471800980 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-46) < 1471801415 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: what did you fix? < 1471801443 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :VM errors < 1471801466 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's left to fix? < 1471801492 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1471801493 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wtf < 1471801497 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might be parsing < 1471801533 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust >(([{}])%-1[<<<])*-1 < 1471801533 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: "!zjoust progname code". See http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for documentation. < 1471801538 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust wtf >(([{}])%-1[<<<])*-1 < 1471801539 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.wtf: points -36.29, score 1.92, rank 47/47 < 1471801577 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust wtf >(([{}])%-1[<<<])*-1 < 1471801578 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.wtf: points -36.29, score 1.92, rank 47/47 (--) < 1471801602 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471801609 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a egojsout bug < 1471801663 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/?l=20508d0326326fd282b7ee01c38734f6b0421bbd&r=da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709 < 1471801749 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who develops egojsout? < 1471801759 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor < 1471801760 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1471802023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Apple3.1414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49628&oldid=49006 5* 03AshuraTheHedgehog 5* (-12) 10Changed link and number. < 1471802284 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: You know there's a !ztest as well. < 1471802382 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I need the full breakdown. :c < 1471802429 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway: http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/?l=20508d0326326fd282b7ee01c38734f6b0421bbd&r=da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709 < 1471802440 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjsout bug if you can fix it < 1471802456 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1471802458 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er < 1471802460 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust test https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/cec411b5c549c0a1517e4dbb5a364081e6b1fc7a.bfjoust < 1471802462 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.test: points -29.02, score 3.91, rank 47/47 < 1471802487 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1471802490 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it fails to reveal the bug < 1471802490 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1471802780 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :greeeaaat < 1471802784 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ({}) related < 1471803030 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytecode looks right < 1471803031 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, uh < 1471803589 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest kiseki https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/e3d7a6d47f16e0a6c1d4dd3bba2d0d0031f193ae.bfjoust < 1471803591 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points 45.07, score 734.29, rank 1/47 < 1471803611 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest kiseki https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/4e162d8368346b0c42c209e2fbcef831e0fb005a.bfjoust < 1471803614 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points 45.83, score 999.98, rank 1/47 < 1471803621 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust kiseki https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/4e162d8368346b0c42c209e2fbcef831e0fb005a.bfjoust < 1471803622 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points 45.83, score 999.98, rank 1/47 < 1471803648 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1471803658 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterfall3 survives, huh < 1471803685 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust kiseki < < 1471803686 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-46) < 1471803690 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471803732 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, your use of advanced programming techniques continues to be a pain the rear for me. < 1471803797 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471803818 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: What would You do to make it less painfully? < 1471803928 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: in what respect? BF Joust compression? < 1471803980 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471803988 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1471803995 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterfall3 doesn't process properly in my VM < 1471803998 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471804000 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea what's left to cause problems. < 1471804043 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471804068 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try looking at a trace of how the program runs and comparing it to a trace produced by your VM < 1471804071 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterfall3 has a ton of cases < 1471804084 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not easy to guess which one's causing the problem, initially < 1471804110 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kiseki built with a counter-everything algorithm? < 1471804114 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it juts really good? < 1471804142 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's autogenerated to counter everything. < 1471804180 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this might actually be the end of BF Joust in this case < 1471804188 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's likely to be trivial to beat by a newly written program < 1471804200 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original version of BF Joust kept the source code secret, at least for a while < 1471804203 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid this sort of countering < 1471804309 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... wat < 1471804312 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterfall3 just < 1471804317 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randomly breaks a lock under my VM < 1471804331 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] exits for no reason < 1471804452 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471804455 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilation error < 1471804521 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1471804532 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the dumbest bug possible < 1471804544 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a mistaken AST manipulation that transformed [] into nothing. < 1471804558 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that sounds useful. < 1471804623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471804671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched a movie called "The Invention of Lying" the other day < 1471804674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved it so much < 1471804679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I realized it's a romantic comedy < 1471804682 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was sad < 1471804728 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody know if ratings in the google play store are somehow filtered or are germans really the only people complaining about stuff not being translated for them? < 1471804760 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest kiseki https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/32f5753d36c979c4b0ca5aa0dba8931b5cd9dc9b.bfjoust < 1471804761 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points 46.00, score 999.98, rank 1/47 (+46) < 1471804807 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: you could do with applying an extra level of RLE to kiseki output < 1471804809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd make it easier to read < 1471804838 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm it only seems to RLE single commands rather than strings of them < 1471804974 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I've proved that there's a set of 768 programs such that it's impossible to beat all of them on all tape lengths with the same program < 1471805006 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck getting them on a hill < 1471805013 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed! < 1471805040 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805059 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1471805097 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm not 100% sure the proof was correct but I can't remember the details < 1471805115 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805241 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805401 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805489 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805509 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471805667 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471805836 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, 999.98. < 1471805907 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me build a new version < 1471805912 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :And see if that's because I'm missing someone < 1471805923 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you replace it with < offscreen? Because the web page's showing it as < for me. < 1471805938 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471805994 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Welp, need to dinner-away anyway.) < 1471806065 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is weird. this page http://zem.fi/bfjoust/breakdown/#ais523.basic_attack says "quintopia_brachiation wins" but when you view in the graphical interpreter, it shows the other winning overwhelmingly. what's the deal? < 1471806076 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ARGH < 1471806087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people leave just when i want to say something to them < 1471806098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(answer: karma) < 1471806109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/say/discuss/ < 1471806135 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471806143 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karma for swatting? < 1471806159 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/?l=20508d0326326fd282b7ee01c38734f6b0421bbd&r=da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709 < 1471806163 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a bug in it < 1471806174 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It treats (x)*-1 as (x-)*-1 apparently < 1471806178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is pondering how to make the link in ais523's new filter's error message open in a new tab/window, and sadly concludes that mediawiki makes that ridiculously complicated and probably needs the LinkTarget extension
< 1471806213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think it should do that so that people don't accidentally get their edits deleted in a stressful situation) < 1471806220 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you either need an extention or to rewrite the link using JavaScript < 1471806234 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1471806243 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's two programming games based on BF I've done bad things to. < 1471806245 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, is that the British spelling? < 1471806256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it like intention/intension? < 1471806259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what it someone doesn't have js enabled? < 1471806274 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course not. swatting gives positive karma hth < 1471806274 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the link doesn't get rewritten < 1471806278 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that's a typo < 1471806284 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the use of JS is a hack in this situation < 1471806294 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: was just a typo < 1471806302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. :-( < 1471806303 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's very believable as a real spelling < 1471806321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was extensionally indistinguishable from an intentional spelling. < 1471806324 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest did-i-break-it https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/270c73c713877745c3d670fb8411d462ae82d530.bfjoust < 1471806326 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.did-i-break-it: points 12.12, score 34.72, rank 5/47 < 1471806328 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471806417 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: which is the other BF-based game? < 1471806439 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really break-break it, but. < 1471806443 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FukYorBrane is mathematically broken because you can write a program which will always beat all programs that are shorter than it by more than a certain proportion < 1471806454 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that optimal strategy is to take that program and keep making it longer < 1471806458 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never bothered to actually write it though < 1471806470 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that in fukyerbrane, @@ lets you set the data pointer < 1471806473 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is... < 1471806477 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not an intentional primitive. < 1471806504 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1471806518 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was using a trick involving defecting and loops < 1471806538 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to teleport the IP faster than the other program's speed of light < 1471806557 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus giving you a certain length of time where you were guaranteed to be not interfered with < 1471806561 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1471806581 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, the breakdown + "X wins" message is from the gearlance results, while the game browser is a forked copy of egojsout. They did produce identical results for the hill I started from (comparing the outputs is part of my regression test suite), but I guess something's wrong. < 1471806588 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: also, what? < 1471806589 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm still trying to be away and make dinner.) < 1471806609 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: < 1471806710 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. hrm < 1471806718 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructing a minimum error case is harder than I thought < 1471806799 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471806799 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/?l=ce11b1ce0d71cf74f2fd6db9e8f1c86de0973812&r=da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709 < 1471806801 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here you go. < 1471806812 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: neither of those programs use *-1 < 1471806824 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1471806829 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a bug. < 1471806832 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: how do you use @@? < 1471806834 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might have found another. \o/ < 1471806862 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: most likely, but i don't have the gumption to track it down atm < 1471806863 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"%-1" is a dubious concept as it is < 1471806907 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nah. makes perfect sense. -1 is shorthand for "the maximum allowed number of repetitions" < 1471806923 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposed to be up to the interpreter to figure out what it means < 1471806929 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that shorthand because it makes - parse ambiguously < 1471806938 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I implemented it in juiced anyway because people keep using it < 1471806953 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fair complaint < 1471807036 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it doesn't actually seem ambiguous though, since - should only appear after * or % in precisely this context. I would consider a * or % not followed by a - or number a syntax error in a bfjoust program < 1471807048 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471807055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ambiguous from the point of view of parsing < 1471807060 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor really from the point of view of tokenisation < 1471807076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still feels like it violates the spirit of BF to use the same character for two different things < 1471807088 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence "fair complaint" < 1471807126 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1471807147 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have used some other glyph for it, like _ or something < 1471807158 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1471807211 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just not include it, and require programmers to type 1111111111 or something (is that long enough for the average "maximum repetitions"?) < 1471807269 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99999 is enough < 1471807291 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're repeating one character as your entire program < 1471807295 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you need one extra copy < 1471807346 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd go with 111111 just because the 1s look cleaner :D < 1471807612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also I'm not 100% sure the proof was correct but I can't remember the details <-- didn't we find essentially the same proof < 1471807619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1471807655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 768 < 1471807656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :768: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 < 1471807712 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest is-it-working-yet https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/d2b103275d0bdd2f3019c20ad2bb4a1cbaf5dfdf.bfjoust < 1471807714 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.is-it-working-yet: points 46.00, score 999.98, rank 1/47 < 1471807725 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust kiseki https://paste.lymia.moe/lymia/d2b103275d0bdd2f3019c20ad2bb4a1cbaf5dfdf.bfjoust < 1471807727 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.kiseki: points 46.00, score 999.98, rank 1/47 (+46) < 1471807858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, _all_ tape lengths. so they just have to work for one. < 1471807902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can choose which. < 1471807998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm would it be possible to reduce the 3 to 2 < 1471808009 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :My defense algorithm isn't good enough to kill the whole hill at once without using brackets. :( < 1471808014 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tries! (but fails and dies) < 1471808078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, do you actually need the programs that don't modify their own flag) < 1471808313 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had a cool idea for an esoteric language, but I don't know if someone else has come up with the same thing and implemented it already < 1471808323 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, it's a language that gets executed "backwards in time" < 1471808358 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Hello, World! would be something like fn main() { let x = read_line(); assert(x == "Hello, World!"); } < 1471808391 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something inconsistent happens, the program will terminate with a "paradox" < 1471808414 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax is still undecided < 1471808474 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, https://github.com/Lymia/BFJoust-Utils < 1471808478 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to look over my generators. < 1471808479 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: WUUI uses a similar principle < 1471808488 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although to a different end < 1471808494 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a bit of a hack job < 1471808544 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471808561 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The challenge would be getting a language like this to actually do some useful computation, rather than just verify the user's input < 1471808580 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think implementing it will be hard < 1471808599 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WUUI is easy to implement but very hard to implement efficiently < 1471808723 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn main() { let a = 0, b = 1; loop *3 { print(a); print(b); a += b; b += a; } } will have the user enter the fibonnacci sequence backwards, otherwise the program terminates with a paradox < 1471808752 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I even put on BF Joust strategies? < 1471808755 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The individual lines wouldn't be backwards, for convenience < 1471808758 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get #1 :^) < 1471808807 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :With terminal trickery by the end you can even make it look like the program was executed and printed out the fibonacci sequence by itself ;) < 1471808832 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I guess you could just explain that it was found by computer search to beat all existing programs < 1471808875 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ha some semblance of a strategy. < 1471808890 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It aggressively distinguishes different programs using [] < 1471808906 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then switches between a defense and attack loop to kill stuff off. < 1471809008 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471809416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1471810060 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471810486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Statistics breaks things a lot of the time < 1471810525 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: make your program generayor automatically generate a description of its strategy < 1471810538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if one crime C is considered 1/100th as bad as another crime D, then usually the punishment for D will be 100 times worse than that for C < 1471810574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can make a statistically similar system by, instead of putting people guilty of D in prison for 10 years and people guilty of C in prison for 0.1 < 1471810600 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting people guilty of D in prison for 10 years always and people guilty of C in prison for 10 years 1% of the time, chosen at random < 1471810612 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471810613 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471810625 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, pff < 1471810632 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does spam output I guess < 1471810635 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was for debugging < 1471810715 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: make it output meaningful and narrative english sentences. you know, just for fun < 1471810742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun, got it? < 1471810923 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b412:b573:23c0:2a63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471810985 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not fun, don't do it. < 1471811000 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone written good code while walking on a treadmill? < 1471811170 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b412:b573:23c0:2a63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471811202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471812314 0 :Guest85738!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471815744 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471815980 0 :feliks!NQm8T5AgE2@unaffiliated/feliks QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471816173 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471816276 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471816685 0 :Guest85738!?@? NICK :augur < 1471817272 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1471817443 0 :kuroro!~kuroro@69.165.253.74 PART #esoteric : < 1471817569 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471817719 0 :feliks!TGpKm6keQv@unaffiliated/feliks JOIN :#esoteric < 1471817890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit Nite < 1471817890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471817890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471818437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the Ur-Example of Ur-Examples? < 1471818464 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ur < 1471818666 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1471818877 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471818882 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471819065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I please restructure english with a fully-productive case system and some nice extra tenses < 1471819076 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471819084 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:8554:a76e:9174:62c5 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471819088 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1471819101 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :english aint that kinda lang < 1471819113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Fine, I'll rename it < 1471819117 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn some other lang if you need it < 1471819119 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while ypu are at it, add an alphabet that makes itpossible to actually pronouncr words correctly < 1471819133 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm going to learn german this year, so that's nice < 1471819144 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471819146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Nah, I don't want to mess with spelling < 1471819165 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody pointed out to me the lack of a past-impossible case and I now need one < 1471819191 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I might add þ though, maybe < 1471819206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is it possible to simply rebind my keyboard to add letters like that?) < 1471819208 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't belive you. that couldn't have happened < 1471819236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Past-impossible is for things that were true but now aren't, but where the external facts haven't changed < 1471819238 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1471819253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like referring to someone who, in the past, did not know the (still-the-same) location of New Jerseey < 1471819270 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could say "E didn't know where New Jersey was", but that implies that New Jersey isn't there any more < 1471819302 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "E didn't know where New Jersey is", but people don't like that < 1471819304 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt know where new jersey is leaves unanswered whether they know now < 1471819311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Ah, yes, that too < 1471819346 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't know where New Jersey had been going to be < 1471819369 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No, that implies New Jersey was going to move (and since has), but that he wasn't informed of the new location < 1471819386 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a tense for things that were true in the past but it is expressly uncertain whether they are currently true < 1471819404 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or likewise for the future < 1471819418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I want fn+t to be þ and shift+fn+t to be (of course) Þ) < 1471819423 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I was trying for the worst possible avast < 1471819426 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer < 1471819432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471819436 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make that work with altgr easily < 1471819439 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That will also be useful < 1471819441 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1471819450 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, assuming you're american you could probably just use us-international < 1471819452 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you just invented a new tense taneb < 1471819495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely want the Habitual/continuative aspect from AAVE < 1471819505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("he be working Tuesdays" is how it is in AAVE) < 1471819528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, it's an existing complex tense < 1471819543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: No altgr on mine :/ < 1471819553 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :altgr = right alt < 1471819559 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on layout < 1471819560 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "he works on tuesdays" not capture the same info? < 1471819608 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY#US-International < 1471819617 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you are watching xidnaf? < 1471819638 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the example is bad < 1471819647 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: "he be working" is better < 1471819671 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471819697 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he be working = he has a job < 1471819709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, but that doesn't generalize < 1471819735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what xidnaf is < 1471819753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, s/myname/quintopia/ < 1471819780 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xidnaf is a small youtube channel about language stuff < 1471819847 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may also to define your own keyboard layout (how this is done depend what operating system) < 1471819848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Oh, right, yeah, I remember < 1471819853 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49629&oldid=49624 5* 03Ais523 5* (+57) 10looks like at least one human didn't read the instructions… < 1471819856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm following him, yes < 1471819907 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What layer is changing the name of an object in Magic: the Gathering? < 1471819922 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am always looking for similar channels < 1471820350 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471820786 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( If I learn DVORAK and change my computer's keyboard layout to it, then nobody will ever be able to use my keyboard if they aren't me ) < 1471820855 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless they're me < 1471820886 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or other dvorak users obviously) < 1471820980 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you change the labels too then somebody can see that it is not QWERTY layout. < 1471820985 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wrong, noone will be able to use any keyboard on your computer, but your keyboard almost anywhere < 1471821112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Henceforþ, þe sound previously represented wiþ þe digraph "th" shall be written wiþ þ ("þorn"), at least for me < 1471821154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actively making a custom keyboard rebinding to include it wiþ altgr+t (and capital wiþ altgr+shift+t) < 1471821164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prepare to be annoyed every time I talk < 1471821225 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I þink þat's a good idea. < 1471821237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I will allow þ to represent boþ voiced and unvoiced dental fricatives) < 1471821240 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: we already are < 1471821240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Excellent < 1471821247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: :,( < 1471821265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mean. < 1471821302 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, have a randomly generated etymology or ten. < 1471821305 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bronchy (n.) Look up broint at Dictionary.com < 1471821305 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : masc. proper name, from Proto-Germanic *brandin (cognates: Gaulish desma, Old Frisian biflie, Old Irish bingane) "to gritter, quirtly, diamon" (cognate with Old Saxon bindre), from dsanque "near with sheeper, drink, chronal, grow," from PIE root *dhan- "to fees-wittle" (see the Anauil). Related: Accommlint. < 1471821358 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am curious about the etymology of super market < 1471821382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION contemplates adding additional letters for sh, ch, and ng
< 1471821398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :corn (n.) < 1471821398 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1843, from corn (n.) + head. Related: Contented; contenting. < 1471821403 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ph will be allowed to live) < 1471821407 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you should use eth when appropriate methinks < 1471821407 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ol' recursive etymologies. < 1471821417 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe also long s < 1471821420 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: When is eþ appropriate? < 1471821445 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :_th_e vs. _th_at < 1471821450 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1471821467 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait hm < 1471821470 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: https://youtu.be/fPzAABMozs0 < 1471821479 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :_th_e vs wi_th_ < 1471821489 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but you've got a nice letter for "ph". It's ɸ. < 1471821489 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ðe and wiþ < 1471821492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm honestly planning to use þese in school þis year. My teachers can't stop me because rules mwahahahahaha) < 1471821501 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure about that < 1471821502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ...þose are exactly the same in my dialect < 1471821504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What rules are those? < 1471821506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471821508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1471821535 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471821544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "ph" makes þe same sound as "f", so if I want to kill it it'll just be replaced wiþ 'f' < 1471821555 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1471821557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: About what? < 1471821564 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that last þ should be ð instead < 1471821567 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My teachers can't stop me because rules" < 1471821574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: It isn't on my clipboard < 1471821577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes, actually < 1471821578 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: wið regards. < 1471821594 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't elliott decide to use long s'es when appropriate for a while? < 1471821601 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the olden days < 1471821612 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: clipboard? You mean keyboard, no? or is it to µ in its selection of keys? < 1471821614 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain (v.) < 1471821614 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "bolopic late 14c.," 1861, only with a wadmer attention man, "pourness, son of the misses" (c. 1300), supposed to restricted the numble correct the surges in the words for the found intercours from brethed "to throw or for strength" (1560s). Meaning "spitchs of dawn," the first it also in first element and in ambushi (1793). As a variant a allo-ded attested from 1778. < 1471821647 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hands hppavilion[1] a π for his troubles
< 1471821696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Due to a probably-not-quite-accurate diagnosis of Asperger's by a doctor who seems to have it himself, my teachers have been warned about me, and spelling reform will be noþing for þem < 1471821723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Clipboard; I haven't finished þe new keyboard layout yet, so I'm just hitting ctrl+v every time I need þ < 1471821745 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is sort of evil < 1471821756 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably not in the spirit of the diagnosis :P < 1471821758 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: wrote a short essay using nothing but old futhark runes. Got it back with comments in red ink, written in same runes < 1471821766 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1471821776 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think nortti would enjoy that < 1471821791 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like something he'd do, too < 1471821807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :('o' binds to 'ø', not because I plan to use it for spelling, but because I need to be able to type it for every time I write my name) < 1471821819 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm curious < 1471821834 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1471821847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Norwegian descent on my faþer's side; last name was anglicized, but I deanglicized it) < 1471821853 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1471821874 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Should I put eþ under my 'd' key? It looks kind of like a 'd'. 't' is taken for þ < 1471821895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...googling may become difficult) < 1471821917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it looks like Google corrects 'þ' into 'th' in searches < 1471821955 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be searching for both, but I get lots of thorns < 1471821962 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of a þorny issue sometimes. Specially when diffrenating between Thorlacious and Þórláks < 1471821968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Huh. Good enough. < 1471821977 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote þorn < 1471821977 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471821980 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote thorn < 1471821981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1471821985 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, now I can type ſ and µ < 1471821988 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better < 1471821999 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we wipe the quotes or something? < 1471822006 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :∫o whot? < 1471822045 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point in replacing a symbol with another one < 1471822061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, relevant 'er's will also be reversed, and 'u' will be used as intended in choice 'or' words. 'defence' over 'defense', etc.) < 1471822074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...I want to say some noble, spelling reform-related cause < 1471822080 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what are you thinking of? < 1471822086 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I do not know but then I do not live at Pretentiusstraße < 1471822090 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i meant Zarutian < 1471822097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's really just that I like þ as a letter and would prefer to try and get it reinstated into english < 1471822098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1471822129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, searching for "þeater" gives me non-english results < 1471822136 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: it didn't make sense in german either, i think. except for resultung in the ß diphtong < 1471822141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if there's a way to coax google to modify my searches... < 1471822156 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ∫ < 1471822157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+222B INTEGRAL] < 1471822201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I was always under the impression ∫ was stylistic, not a distinct letter (like þe difference between single- and double-story 'a' and 'g') < 1471822213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, I said 'there' < 1471822214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1471822218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll figure it out someday < 1471822229 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My homestuck friends will love this...) < 1471822257 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it wasn't a distinct letter < 1471822268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Exactly < 1471822291 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is basically the same as s, but you write it if not at the beginning of a syllable < 1471822342 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean ſ I think, not ∫ < 1471822355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I could make a Firefox extension þat turns 'þ' into 'th' in a search?) < 1471822391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering turning 'ng' to 'ŋ' as well; should I? < 1471822395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks good < 1471822405 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could as well just stop writing shitty < 1471822475 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do agree that english should be reformed somehow, but just randomly exchange stuff like you feel like it just makes it harder for anyone to communicate with you < 1471822510 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't stop you, but if it gets too obscure, i won't take the time to read what you are trying to say < 1471822527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, I don't plan to make it too obscure < 1471822567 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just named like 4 symbols or so ypu want to introduce and to force others to remember < 1471822627 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1471822698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! There's even Ezh (Ʒ/ʒ) < 1471822710 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should just write IPA < 1471822762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ...yeah, ðat's kind of where ðis is headed, isn't it? < 1471822775 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure seems so < 1471822826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I'll stop after I have a ch; ðat's ðe last one I need < 1471822840 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should also start using wynn and yogh < 1471822937 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crowting/(c.) < 1471822937 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1530s, "a downs," but the meaning "squind found rubles which is taken as the name by intrograte into, drink falsion," from croby (n.). < 1471822944 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crowting/" is an interesting word. < 1471822951 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently its part of speech is "century". < 1471823052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Already a letter for ðat < 1471823062 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471823064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like how ðat looks like "dat") < 1471823199 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471823232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Is ðere any old or middle-engliʃ letter for "ch"? < 1471823243 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1471823281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esperanto appears to use ĉ < 1471823362 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471823363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should all speak lojban < 1471823372 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a great language < 1471823451 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Agreed, but I doubt ðat my school would be able to find a translator < 1471823469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for more utilitarian purposes, I'm adding € as well) < 1471824008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, completed ðe new keyboard layout < 1471824091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A couple of warniŋs about various symbols not recognized by ðe default codepage, so ðose won't work in non-Unicode applications < 1471824149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But let's be honest; everyþing supports Unicode now, and ðe stuff ðat doesn't is ðe stuff ðat requires proper spelling (e.g. command lines, programming languages) < 1471824243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was careful in ðat I didn't ĉange ðe default parts of my keyboard layout; all ðe extra letters are altgr-related) < 1471824372 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i don't plan to make it too obscure", he said < 1471824382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not TOO obscure < 1471824407 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, right < 1471824412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ðis is exactly as obscure as it ʃould be < 1471824418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still read it < 1471824637 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471825234 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471825584 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471825713 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471825860 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471825982 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471826018 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471826090 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471826115 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471827659 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471829103 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471829143 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471829508 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471829574 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471830748 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:b0c3:7052:aeaf:e6cf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471831161 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471831333 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471831644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans ʃould've evolved a sense þat allows us to 'see' neutrinos... < 1471831870 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471831963 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471833208 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471834325 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who says we can't see neutrinos already? < 1471834417 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A neutrino can produce a flash of light when it interacts with some water. < 1471834702 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the stuff in our eyes is watery. < 1471834732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how often in a lifetime is that expected to happen? < 1471834753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I expect the number to be smaller than 1) < 1471834785 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody applied math to shipping before (currently, newspeak is on hold) < 1471834817 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also should sleep. < 1471834829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Portraying a character in a relationship with themself- or a close copy- is referred to as a "degenerate ship", and does not strictly qualify as a proper ship, but is studied in Fandomry nonetheless" < 1471834837 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how often that would happen, but even if it does, you might not be able to see if the light is not enough. < 1471834846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, I don't know if the light is enough or not) < 1471836602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out the genetic relationship between two people when each one's parent is the sibling of one of the other's parent < 1471836630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so your fathers are (non-identical twin) brothers and your mothers are (non-identical twin) sisters < 1471836787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOOH < 1471836790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double siblings < 1471837068 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471837473 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think theoretically, humans can see single photons. < 1471837681 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471838447 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.minpoijjikop: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-44) < 1471839052 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471839862 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1471839999 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish < 1471840000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come and dance and love the fish! Mister Disco summoned it. < 1471840266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg fish < 1471840269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ le/rn fish/Come and dance and love the fish! Mister Disco summoned it. < 1471840288 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/howg < 1471840289 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "wisdom/$1" < 1471840299 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hoag < 1471840300 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1471840301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do that in /msg 5 minutes ago? < 1471840309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't le/rn in /msg < 1471840311 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I do that? < 1471840323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why you add the wisdoms that you do. < 1471840333 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, I won't le/rn in /msg in the future. < 1471840347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't modify the HackEgo filesystem in /msg. < 1471840615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This rule is more important than the previous one. < 1471840746 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't do that either. < 1471840898 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1471840938 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1471842480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471844460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`go fish < 1471844460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: go: not found < 1471844501 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you purchase that melon soda? < 1471844528 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: not yet, i have to figure out if I can have it delivered to my house or workplace < 1471844545 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you find it < 1471844568 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rakuten < 1471844620 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? melon < 1471844621 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :melon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471844628 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird, i never heard of it but wikipedia claims it is pretry big < 1471844882 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't seem to have it on the german site, at least < 1471846681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471846931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471846940 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is 1080i60 like? < 1471847055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someday, we're going to have bandwidth making 4320p180 "no big deal" < 1471847073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but we probably won't use it, because it isn't really much better for the eyes < 1471847074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1471847757 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I find 720p already good enough < 1471847770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah, that too < 1471847828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer monitor can't really handle 720p60, and unfortunately the Yogscast now uploads all videos in 240p, 360p, 480p, 720p60, and 1080p60 < 1471847859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can either watch in sub-HD quality or have a laggy system < 1471850631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471850703 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471851738 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471853114 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1471853360 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471854519 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471854637 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471855524 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471856827 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan this idea of not trusting coerce was very tedious to follow through: https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/925fe0548caffe24a8a2e64857421c77d930cbf8/patches/profunctors-5.2.patch and https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/925fe0548caffe24a8a2e64857421c77d930cbf8/patches/lens-4.14.patch ... too many hours went into this (mostly staring at code and trying to justify its safety) < 1471856827 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471856887 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good news is that I can finally update lambdabot to 8.0.1, I think... just have to build it... if I haven't missed anything... will see later. < 1471857139 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f0ca:dc3:ec91:20bd JOIN :#esoteric < 1471858397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, people. < 1471858404 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How was my vacation? < 1471858511 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fine < 1471858515 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for asking < 1471858542 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was largely coincident with mine < 1471860438 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471862541 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471862586 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Client Quit < 1471863360 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471863533 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471863761 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471863761 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 1h 55m 33s ago: this idea of not trusting coerce was very tedious to follow through: https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/925fe0548caffe24a8a2e64857421c77d930cbf8/patches/profunctors-5.2.patch and https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/blob/925fe0548caffe24a8a2e64857421c77d930cbf8/patches/lens-4.14.patch ... too many hours went < 1471863761 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :into this (mostly staring at code and trying to justify its safety) < 1471863962 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1471864042 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far the new filter appears to be catching 100% of spammers and 100% of legitimate new users. i'm not quite sure the balance is quite right... < 1471864111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly there's only one of the latter yet.) < 1471864141 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471864274 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471864309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask int-e have you complained to kmett tmnh < 1471864309 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471864349 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471864376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/complained/sent pull requests/ mhb < 1471864665 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471865520 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471865812 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it to be expected for quicksort to go from 100 elements to 18446744073709551615 elements? < 1471865847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: er, probably not? < 1471865852 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471865856 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1471866006 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora. what are you sorting? < 1471866006 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1471866032 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoily. < 1471866055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: she's probably sorting tribbles hth < 1471866064 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i'm sorting my whole address space < 1471866080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks roomy. < 1471866305 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by 1 errors look much more friendly than off by ~0ull < 1471866351 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops" < 1471867454 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471867648 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have tried to discuss this issue a while ago, but got no reply at the time: https://github.com/ekmett/lens/issues/661 < 1471868172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1471868217 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at that time I missed the fact that profunctors effectively exports coerce as well) < 1471868292 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case... is there any tooling support for safehaskell yet? loading modules in ghci to see which imports are the unsafe ones is awfully tedious. < 1471868370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1471868424 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, you might be the only person with a need... < 1471868478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there are some other online interpreters. < 1471868526 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the reflection package has grown some new ugly code since the last time I looked at it: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/reflection-2.1.2/docs/src/Data-Reflection.html#B < 1471868684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think the Given class might be a bigger problem... < 1471868687 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:f0ca:dc3:ec91:20bd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471868722 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, but I know how that trick works. < 1471868771 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PAGINATED CHICKEN < 1471868869 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in any case the Given code looks beautiful. Its evilness is all below the surface. < 1471868972 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Typeable reflection code is ugly, but indeed slightly less evil underneath. < 1471870915 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471871030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1471871662 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471873049 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471875730 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO WAY! < 1471875852 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :M:tG stuff. Do you recall that Eldritch Moon prints a black bordered take on an un-card: the meld cards are version of the B.F.M. (and S.N.O.T.) < 1471875883 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Conspiracy 2 is printing the black bordered take of an un-card too. < 1471875892 0 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471875894 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A different un-card, one that's never been done in black bordered land that is. < 1471875943 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471876214 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471876317 0 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1471876749 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471877415 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471878629 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471879831 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1471881291 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471881514 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471883118 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471883205 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d578:8274:b811:a6d6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471883278 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1471883482 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d578:8274:b811:a6d6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471885312 0 :gremlins2!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471885473 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471885475 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471885531 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471885543 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1471885743 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471886050 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1471886131 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471886225 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471886550 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471887118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471890016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1471890030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized my name ("Nathan") contains a 'th' < 1471890065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I have to decide wheðer or not to use ðe 'þ' ðere. < 1471890235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does #esoteric þink? < 1471890464 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471890492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471890531 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Napan (sic) < 1471890729 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471891141 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471891180 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471891345 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471891390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471891502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471892060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 funny how all the new spammers coming in after you made that new filter get caught only by it. the quickbooks people seem to have stopped, anyhow. < 1471892060 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471892144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 well, i guess their original ips were blocked, that might have affected it. < 1471892144 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471892194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 slightly disturbing that it also stopped the one legitimate new editor :P < 1471892194 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471892444 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 i'm slightly annoyed that there doesn't seem to be a way to reorder the filters. i thought inserting one before the filter might help give a more helpful error message for those forgetting to log in first < 1471892444 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471892472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 *before filter 9 < 1471892472 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471892518 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471892535 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh I'm stupid stupid < 1471892537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jonas, now extra wobbly < 1471892562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you break your other computer < 1471892570 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just cut into the tip of my index finger with a bread knife < 1471892576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1471892584 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :been there, done that. < 1471892627 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...surprisingly long since i last did that... < 1471892640 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should KNOW not to get my hand where the knife can go when cutting < 1471892657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do know, but i also get stressed sometimes. < 1471892712 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've cut myself with knife a couple of times, often when cleaning it. this time, I was cutting bread. < 1471892771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471892837 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: hopefully brb < 1471892944 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471892975 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471893288 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1471893465 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471893495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I think it is possible to split up the checks more without reordering the filters, not sure if it's worth it... < 1471893495 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471893529 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my off by ~0ull is now a off by 1 < 1471893533 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :big improvement < 1471893539 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone help me debug it? < 1471893539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wat < 1471893547 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1471893567 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but off by ~0ull is just off by one < 1471893577 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but this is a different one < 1471893583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's off by -1 < 1471893592 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/jhgXQH/raw this is my quicksort https://arin.ga/CJvsx9/raw and this is a test program < 1471893596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or (unsigned long long) (-1), i presume < 1471893598 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/tB73J3/raw output i get < 1471893606 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471893619 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, off by -1 should be one step more correct than off by 0 < 1471893630 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prints the array at each step for debugging purposes < 1471893960 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that C is too complicated for me. < 1471894108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471894156 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the problem is in my partition step < 1471894196 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works fine if one chooses 0 as the pivot but i'm choosing the median of 0, end/2, end < 1471894215 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sometimes i end up looping forever < 1471894230 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll change that < 1471894245 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471894270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : web.minpoijjikop: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-44) <-- wat < 1471894284 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did a spammer find the web interface, or something. < 1471894308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm fizzie is highly idle < 1471894377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm zemhill shows up in googling for that word. i guess it's genuine. < 1471894401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does it MEAN < 1471894750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds himself reloading the abuse log often enough now that he wishes for a moment that HackEgo announced it...
< 1471894766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might not be optimal. < 1471894805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps it's some strange Finnish word or concatenation of words < 1471894888 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think poij- is a form of poika, meaning boy. < 1471894942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the rest doesn't look very finnish. < 1471895069 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, it's strange because "min" would be in Swedish < 1471895119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pojke is a swedish word, i suspect borrowed from the finnish one. < 1471895123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471895130 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1471895133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe vice versa. i should look that up. < 1471895138 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is the whole thing swedish then? < 1471895160 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from finnish, claims wiktionary. < 1471895192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no, the -jikop part isn't very swedish either. and there's an extra -i- too. < 1471895217 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do the norwegians spell it? they have such strange spellings < 1471895266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian hasn't borrowed that word, we use "gutt" which is theorized to be from dutch. < 1471895312 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1471895324 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and danish uses "dreng" < 1471895341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is archaic in norwegian.) < 1471895348 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "ikop" mean something without the "j" in some language? < 1471895363 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "iköp" or "ikøp" < 1471895398 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently dreng is from norse. < 1471895446 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :köp is swedish for "buy" < 1471895451 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471895469 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then "poijji" would be strange < 1471895492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :køp isn't really anything that i know, i think the danish is køb, and the norwegian is kjøp. < 1471895524 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471895543 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kop is a verb in norwegian, at least in my dialect, meaning "stare" or "ogle" (i'm not exactly sure.) < 1471895595 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok "dreng" in norwegian nowadays means farmhand, essentially. < 1471895855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the -ijji- is strange no matter how you look at it. < 1471895900 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson learned: bind mounts don't follow symlinks < 1471895902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it couldn't really be any scandinavian language, and i'm not sure about finnish. < 1471895917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: shocking < 1471895924 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, very < 1471895952 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci isn't getting any faster :/ < 1471895998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While /ʋ/ and /j/ may appear as geminates when spoken (e.g. vauva [ʋɑuʋːɑ], raijata [rɑijːɑtɑ]), this distinction is not phonemic, and is not indicated in spelling." < 1471896006 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :up from 1.2s to almost 2 seconds... that will cause a lot of timeouts. < 1471896006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not even finnish. < 1471896029 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that this is best case time) < 1471896038 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1471896088 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric : well pojke is a swedish word, i suspect borrowed from the finnish one. ← probably the other way around, that's generally the case I think < 1471896103 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1471896104 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1471896113 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wiktionary claims it's from finnish to swedish. it doesn't really look swedish, after all. < 1471896117 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're both from Russian < 1471896119 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, true < 1471896137 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, what else is missing... hoogle database < 1471896148 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: according to wiktionary the finnish word is from proto-finnic, from proto-uralic < 1471896150 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not a loan < 1471896169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From Proto-Finnic *poika, from Proto-Uralic *pojka. Cognate with Livvi poigu, Estonian poeg, poiss and Hungarian fiú." < 1471896172 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cognate with Livvi poigu, Estonian poeg, poiss and Hungarian fiú." < 1471896175 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1471896177 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty definite. < 1471896182 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can -ijji- appear in a spelling of some word like Ilion (Troy) or million in some language? < 1471896211 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I see < 1471896244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs to me that minpoijjikop may simply have been chosen as a random combination of letters on the right side of a qwerty keyboard. < 1471896292 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so it's button mash like jlas;dkljdad;skj on the homerow (but when your index finger is cut)? < 1471896310 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: maybe. < 1471896373 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did minpoijjikop appear? < 1471896386 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taking German this year < 1471896391 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, zemhill, I see < 1471896400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should install German Dvorak and learn to type on that? < 1471896412 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :minpoijjikop = 271987447589 if you think of it as embedded numpad (which i had on my previous laptop) < 1471896418 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion: German is useful. dunno about dvorak. < 1471896454 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ij' suggests dutch < 1471896480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe < 1471896484 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in dutch it'd probably be koep < 1471896522 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait what? that's not how an embedded numpad is usually laid out < 1471896591 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't the usual layout y/mjkluio789/0123456789/ ? < 1471896642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well it's the only way to fit this in one, is all < 1471896669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: what would be koep? < 1471896681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right the 0 gets awkward < 1471896695 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, my laptop also has a numpad, on those keys < 1471896720 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minpoijjikop < 1471896720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minpoijjikop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471896727 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't know, but it looks more dutch to me that way < 1471896737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :koep doesn't seem to be a dutch word, although koepel is. < 1471896823 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1471896838 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, n is not in my numpad, maybe it's just stabbing the keyboard across the mnijkop keys < 1471896839 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1471896953 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should add a wisdom entry for minpoijjikop < 1471896973 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, hoogle's taking its time... < 1471897112 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> last [1..] < 1471897124 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1471897124 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1471897189 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :increased the timeout a bit (if I found the right knob), hopefully that'll do the trick < 1471897305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i don't think that one will finish anyhow hth < 1471897329 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure it does. it only takes about O(omega) time. < 1471897333 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was looking at the 12 seconds between sending that message and the reply, obviously!!!!1 < 1471897339 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1471897373 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime, hoogle is indexing package 1540 out of 1998?! < 1471897411 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zippy < 1471897445 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> a < 1471897447 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Djinn command failed: djinn: readCreateProcess: runInteractiveProcess: exec: does not exist (No such file or directory) < 1471897448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that 1998 does seem a bit low < 1471897456 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1471897471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically last century < 1471897492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471897497 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cabal: unrecognized 'install' option `--dry-un' < 1471897508 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid program, it's totally clear what I meant ;-) < 1471897528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :--good-one < 1471897734 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471897905 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> a < 1471897905 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a < 1471898000 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471898033 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> b -> (a,b) < 1471898034 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = (a, b) < 1471898045 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> b -> a b < 1471898045 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: kind error: (KArrow (KVar 1) (KVar 2),KVar 0) < 1471898053 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good djinn < 1471898065 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> b -> f a -> f b < 1471898065 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1471898075 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Functor f) => a -> b -> f a -> f b < 1471898075 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Class not found: Functor < 1471898090 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't know about functors? < 1471898141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1471898146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-env < 1471898155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1471898170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list djinn < 1471898170 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :djinn provides: djinn djinn-add djinn-del djinn-env djinn-names djinn-clr djinn-ver < 1471898178 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's actually empty < 1471898186 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: as a general policy, we don't allow programs to autocomplete typoed option names, beacuse (1) then a script that works now can start to fail later as more options are added, and (2) it could invoke dangerous options, like "mv: invalid option '-t', auto-correcting to '-f'" or something (or see http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0007.html ) < 1471898188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-names < 1471898200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : @djinn knows Eq and Monad, apparently. < 1471898225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i thought those were part of @djinn-env < 1471898225 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: just for the record, I wasn't serious. < 1471898230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-env < 1471898241 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: me neither < 1471898243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps but they're also here: https://github.com/augustss/djinn/blob/master/src/Djinn.hs < 1471898246 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Eq a b) => a -> b -> Bool < 1471898247 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a _ = a == a < 1471898253 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1471898256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1471898267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUGG < 1471898269 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should have errored < 1471898283 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case I do not feel responsible for @djinn at all. < 1471898309 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-add class Functor f where fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1471898312 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, yes, that looks like a rank error < 1471898317 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Eq a) => a -> a -> (Bool, Bool) < 1471898318 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898318 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> f :: (Eq a) => a -> a -> (Bool, Bool) < 1471898318 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a _ = < 1471898318 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a == a of < 1471898318 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> (False, False) < 1471898320 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : True -> (False, True) < 1471898323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: shouldn't it respond something < 1471898327 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1471898341 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :urkh < 1471898351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe a bit less clumped < 1471898404 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you're in "patches welcome" territory there. < 1471898411 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with all the Djinn> < 1471898428 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Eq a) => a -> a -> (Bool, Bool) < 1471898429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> f :: (Eq a) => a -> a -> (Bool, Bool) < 1471898429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a _ = < 1471898429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a == a of < 1471898429 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> (False, False) < 1471898431 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : True -> (False, True) < 1471898435 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1471898447 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-del < 1471898447 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898458 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know how that works < 1471898462 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> a < 1471898463 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@GOD a -> a < 1471898463 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898463 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> Djinn> f :: a -> a < 1471898463 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a < 1471898463 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1471898471 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-del class Functor < 1471898471 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-del class Functor f where fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f < 1471898478 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898481 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good job breaking it < 1471898504 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-clr < 1471898520 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> a < 1471898520 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a < 1471898521 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-kind Eq < 1471898521 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1471898526 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@kind Eq < 1471898534 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> Constraint < 1471898540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-del class Functor f where fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1471898540 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1471898548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-env < 1471898548 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :data () = () < 1471898548 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Either a b = Left a | Right b < 1471898548 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Maybe a = Nothing | Just a < 1471898548 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Bool = False | True < 1471898548 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Void < 1471898550 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Not x = x -> Void < 1471898552 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Monad m where return :: a -> m a; (>>=) :: m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b < 1471898554 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Eq a where (==) :: a -> a -> Bool < 1471898554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now that works < 1471898559 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-names < 1471898559 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Monoid s) => s -> s -> s < 1471898561 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either Left Right Maybe Nothing Just Bool False True Void Not Void Monad Eq Bool < 1471898561 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Class not found: Monoid < 1471898574 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That output is bigger too < 1471898585 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (Monoid s) => s -> s -> s < 1471898589 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoogle: The Hoogle file /home/lambda/.hoogle/default-haskell-5.0.2.hoo is truncated, probably due to an error during creation. < 1471898589 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallStack (from HasCallStack): < 1471898589 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error, called at src/General/Store.hs:181:13 in hoogle-5.0.2-5GwbZ4e6btT4ckpCChTs4k:General.Store < 1471898589 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallStack (from HasCallStack): < 1471898589 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error, called at src/General/Util.hs:239:66 in hoogle-5.0.2-5GwbZ4e6btT4ckpCChTs4k:General.Util < 1471898598 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1471898607 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoogle is still initializing < 1471898612 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Eq a) => a -> a -> Bool < 1471898613 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = (==) < 1471898627 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Bool -> Bool < 1471898627 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a < 1471898640 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Bool -> Bool -> Bool < 1471898642 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = < 1471898642 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1471898642 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> b < 1471898642 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : True -> False < 1471898664 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it produce a random operator each time? < 1471898677 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one has an odd truth table < 1471898680 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> (a->a->b) -> b < 1471898681 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = b a a < 1471898707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and taking its time, probably thrashing the VM) < 1471898709 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks correct < 1471898733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471899044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: How do you interrogate a mathematician? < 1471899073 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: levezeti. no wait, that's a different pun. < 1471899077 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (Monoid s) => s -> s -> s < 1471899081 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude mappend :: Monoid a => a -> a -> a < 1471899081 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Monoid mappend :: Monoid a => a -> a -> a < 1471899081 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Semigroup mappend :: Monoid a => a -> a -> a < 1471899095 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: Use the classic "uncountably many cops of varying good/bad alignments on a [0,1] interval" routine < 1471899254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space Nazis vs Space Pirates < 1471899409 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Quit: sorry, need to test this < 1471899509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: wiktionary doesn't have that word :( < 1471899515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although google does < 1471899635 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: does the pun involve juice twh < 1471899693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :were any zorn's lemons or abelian grapes harmed during the production of this pun < 1471899725 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no < 1471899732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no to which < 1471899747 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Are they wearing black and white hats, and have blue or brown eyes? < 1471899752 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lemons, no grapes < 1471899760 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes, one of them lies < 1471899775 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: darn < 1471899778 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: blue or brown eyes doesn't have an uncountable version, does it? < 1471899789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: what about juice < 1471899795 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That's what makes the interrogation exciting < 1471899797 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dunno < 1471899801 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1471899819 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1471899854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1471899861 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1471899874 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't very fast < 1471899908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack 2 < 1471899915 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1471899985 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1d82:7ff2:b7da:aec5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471900077 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471900114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471900315 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471900574 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1471900657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471901264 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471901276 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471901742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Can you elaborate on "Conspiracy 2 is printing the black bordered take of an un-card too"? < 1471902127 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471902209 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471903269 0 :gremlins2!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471903342 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471903423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471903738 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error "1" < 1471903746 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1471903753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error "1" < 1471903757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: 1 < 1471903757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : CallStack (from HasCallStack): < 1471903757 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error, called at :3:1 in interactive:Ghci1 < 1471903985 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error "1" < 1471903988 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: 1 < 1471904334 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3883:bce7:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471904631 0 :almightynsx1!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1471904853 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471905104 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471905170 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471905447 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471905504 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471905542 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471905596 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Int -> [a] -> a < 1471905598 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1471905609 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Int -> [a] -> a < 1471905609 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Undefined type Int < 1471905613 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Integer -> [a] -> a < 1471905614 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Undefined type Integer < 1471905618 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Bool -> [a] -> a < 1471905618 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Undefined type [] < 1471905632 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Maybe a -> a < 1471905632 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1471905663 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (a -> b) -> Maybe a -> Maybe b < 1471905663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = < 1471905663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : case b of < 1471905663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing -> Nothing < 1471905663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just c -> Just (a c) < 1471905913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471906292 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471906296 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1471906302 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1471906309 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1471906314 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1471906371 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone else think that the collatz conjecture system is probably turing complete? < 1471906399 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the collatz system is N=3*N+1 if N is odd, and N=N/2 if N is even) < 1471906399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it. not that particular function. < 1471906418 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think that it's too random? < 1471906439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or too little structure. < 1471906456 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that another way of saying too random? :D < 1471906467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily. < 1471906488 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471906523 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have order that just doesn't build complexity. < 1471906536 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471906544 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: How would you do any computation with it? < 1471906572 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad, I'm not sure that it's random at all < 1471906573 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it acts as a cellular automata in base 6? < 1471906575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1471906576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1471906586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1471906587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1471906592 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in base 6, *3 is the same as /2 < 1471906596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: it really doesn't. < 1471906602 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for what happens to the last digits < 1471906618 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Collatz_function is, of course, relevant, but it's about a class of functions of which the Collatz function is a particular instance. < 1471906622 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Instead of focusing on this < 1471906631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions:math//s/the reals/the axiom of choice, &/ < 1471906632 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: How about you construct a computer using the Star Wars cellular automaton < 1471906632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosebud! < 1471906636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s/the reals/the axiom of choice, &/ < 1471906638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the axiom of choice, the reals, Lambek's lemma, the Hodge star operator, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1471906645 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have a large number with tons of digits, then it's equivalent to repeated *3 for digits far from the right edge < 1471906651 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in base 6 < 1471906652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hodge star operator < 1471906653 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hodge star operator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471906660 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Did you really invent that? < 1471906669 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1471906683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain what it is? < 1471906688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also can you teach me differential geometry? < 1471906689 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Taneb invent Surreal Numbers too? < 1471906691 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally rely on you to remember what I invented < 1471906693 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invented one thing: Claiming other people's inventions for himself. < 1471906712 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, someone else invented that on my behalf < 1471906721 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh wait, I think that has already been done before.) < 1471906732 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sorry, I need to type faster. < 1471906741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, inventions are never named after the person who actually invented them. < 1471906744 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Taneb's law. < 1471906774 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle. < 1471906862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom hodge < 1471906864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1471906900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s/the Hodge star operator, // < 1471906902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the axiom of choice, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1471906924 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But now Taneb won't teach me differential geometry. :-( < 1471906933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm applying the analogous rule to the wiki's language list hth < 1471906953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is: if you don't create an article with information, your entry will eventually be deleted. < 1471906962 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lambek's lemma < 1471906962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if no one creates < 1471906963 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambek's Lemma, invented by Joachim "Taneb" Lambek, states that initial algebras have inverses. < 1471906971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1471906975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? histogram < 1471906976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Histograms are diagrams showing histamine levels. Taneb invented them. < 1471906988 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471907000 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? opera < 1471907001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :opera? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471907016 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the axiom of choice < 1471907017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the axiom of choice? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471907030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everyone knows what the axiom of choice is. < 1471907131 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Operas are an art form featuring soap or singing, and occasionally both at the same time. ) < 1471907155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there are too many explanations to choose from tdnh < 1471907160 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have an infinite number of ice cream parlours, each selling an infinite number of ice cream flavours, I can choose an ice cream flavours i < 1471907175 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ice cream flavour in each parlour < 1471907219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you really ready for such a great power < 1471907246 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do my best < 1471907268 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the axiom of choice is responsible for the phenomenon that the grass is always greener on the other side. < 1471907269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"every surjection is a retraction" < 1471907273 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. compact imo < 1471907316 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471907323 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mathematically: For every choice you make there is a better choice that you could've made instead.) < 1471907339 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every category has a skeleton < 1471907342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that wisdomy enough? < 1471907354 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: in its closet? < 1471907364 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello, Tanelle. < 1471907373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What does that mean? Something about upper bounds? < 1471907382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more compact: "a product of compact spaces is compact" hth < 1471907389 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm applying logic to real life. < 1471907393 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, perhaps, but not necessarily < 1471907421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you took the bait hth < 1471907434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1471907451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently you hid the swatter first. < 1471907476 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471907482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll just have to borrow the mapole hth < 1471907513 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How many mapoles are there in the world? < 1471907527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every category is closet, okay < 1471907581 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bare bones humor < 1471907598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1471907598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1471907599 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. as many as there are meese hth < 1471907622 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs a mapoling now? < 1471907623 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb knows the kings of England and he quotes the fights historical / From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical < 1471907651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a major general mapoling is in order < 1471907683 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only get back to Edward V in the kings of England < 1471907701 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before Edward V came Edward IV hth < 1471907721 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb may be afraid of skipping kings. < 1471907730 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kickstarts his Patented Motorized Powerful Mapole Projection Machine. *VBRRRRRRRRRR*
< 1471907734 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1471907736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: don't worry, i can only get back to ... um some guy named George. < 1471907756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, he wasn't named george originally. but anyway. < 1471907763 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3883:bce7:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471907769 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, was he one of the George's named Albert < 1471907778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think so < 1471907783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :were there several? < 1471907805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a german-sounding name, anyway. which was why he had to change it. < 1471907814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only king of England I know is Elizabeth. < 1471907832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there was this guy called Edward, but i'm not sure if there was one in between. < 1471907857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before that, another George, i think. < 1471907863 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was but there isn't < 1471907879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What's your vote for the next monarch after Elizabeth? < 1471907933 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Helen Mirren < 1471907960 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471908457 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471908534 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471908691 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386f:4d82:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1471908707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1471908707 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1471908713 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot for president! < 1471908714 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, how often do european pensioners receive their pension. that is the case now. the green paper on the use of child labour. < 1471908733 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or king, whatever < 1471908746 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or queen? < 1471908753 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :never thought about that, actually < 1471908755 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot for monarch butterfly < 1471908756 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mr president, i have two minor comments. firstly, one sometimes had the impression over recent months: first that, in a restaurant in a place where we can set down guidelines which will help to take us into uncharted territory. finally, at diplomatic level, mr prodi, i want to make something of it. < 1471908758 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have a gender? < 1471908759 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the discussion about the definition of indirect discrimination. i think that when it comes to facilitating trade and business, requires that parliament be there to assist the commission in this area, and in particular mr titley have said so far that the declaration of the 12th and then maybe he will understand why we in the commission this morning, before i go into the context of the new member states in this area should < 1471908777 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; echo *sex* < 1471908778 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone sex sex < 1471908782 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sex < 1471908783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex is a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s. Sex was introduced to the rest of the world by a book, "The Complete Guide to Sex", written and published in 1932, based on the author's extensive experience with a wide variety of forms of European sex. < 1471908870 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits sex < 1471908872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett oerjan oerjan tswett < 1471908900 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1d82:7ff2:b7da:aec5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471908922 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "a board game which originated in Britain in the 1870s before spreading throughout Europe in the 1890s" < 1471908928 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/raw/2015-06-18-raw.txt < 1471909440 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: METAL CHICKEN < 1471909603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471910408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471910421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a magic space beam were to hit earth and flip everybody's gender < 1471910429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let's not question /why/ this happened) < 1471910457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would trans people be happy about it, or would they stay trans but have their identity flipped too? < 1471910468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so a trans woman now has the body of a woman but identifies as a man) < 1471910521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, it's a question of whether the aliens that did this for whatever reason thought to flip identity too (so whether men still think of themselves as men, but are physical women) < 1471910582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if they made it set your identity to match your appearance (so men (who have become women) identify as women, women identify as men, trans women (who become women) identify as women (score), and trans men become men (and identify as such)) < 1471910672 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume people would have other things to worry about, like who's bombarding the planet with philosophical quandaries < 1471910942 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471910962 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting < 1471910981 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run my own mailserver, and recently gmail started bouncing messages from it for a vaguely explained reason < 1471911004 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: This is a question based on questions of both what the beam is *doing*, as well as as-yet open questions of what the physical and psychological bases of "being trans" *are*... < 1471911015 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I started adding email auth features < 1471911040 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently I'm messing around with dmarc, which asks mailservers who receive forged messages claiming to be from you to send you statistics about them < 1471911050 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Let's assume that identity is completely disjointed from (but still correlated with) physical gender < 1471911056 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a method of determining what impact adding more anti-forgery protections would have) < 1471911093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is your personal mailserver running a software I've heard of? < 1471911104 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got my first report today; I reported a bug in Ubuntu, and it sent email about it with my email address forged as the from address < 1471911111 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it runs a ton of software < 1471911119 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it you've probably heard of, like postfix < 1471911152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's the thing doing the mailiness? < 1471911170 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan we could simply make 9 permit anon editing and add a separate anti-anon filter; better would be to disable anon editing in the settings < 1471911170 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471911174 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Shit gets complicated, because physical sex is not just one phenotype that you can flip, and for some trans people that may well be super obvious and relevant. < 1471911177 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or find some way to allow anons to edit in less spamy times) < 1471911192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a bunch of different programs are involved in saving and receiving emails < 1471911204 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard of Postfix; I use Exim since it has the features I require. < 1471911223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, hermaphrodit...edness is a matter of your body developing incorrectly (or awesomely, if that's what the reader is into), not anything genetic, right?) < 1471911235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Complicated. < 1471911241 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which featuers do you use that postfix doesn't have? < 1471911245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Of course it is < 1471911258 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Heirloom-Mailx as the front-end; it has the built-in ability to forge a from address easily (another feature I need, due to the way I have aliases set up) < 1471911287 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: most mail clients can forge a from address easily < 1471911296 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some cases of being intersex that can be directly triggered genetically. Hell, there's even weird cases where you can end up with an unambiguously "normal" male or female phenotype without a normally matching genotype. < 1471911299 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how many mail submission programs will forge a bounce (MailFrom) address < 1471911329 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The way I have aliases set up is one of them. I don't know if Postfix can do that, but when looking at the possibilities I have found that Exim does support it so I used that. < 1471911370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1471911370 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1471911379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have set it up so that it only receives messages send to aliases; not messages sent to UNIX usernames.) < 1471911411 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have XX cis men and XY cis women. Both of these are *really* rare, but well-documented phenomena. < 1471911425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: chimerism, perhaps? < 1471911428 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: O, I did not know such thing would be possible < 1471911472 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You actually can send to a UNIX username if you connect directly to my SMTP server and do not use the local domain name instead of the internet domain name, but you shouldn't need to do that.) < 1471911490 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, in the XX case the father's gametes had a recombination with the X and Y chromosomes and the SRY gene landed on the X; for XY, SRY gets mutated or deleted such that it doesn't work. < 1471911530 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SRY is the major gene that triggers the masculinization of a fetus. < 1471911551 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :any cases of intersex that are fertile? < 1471911553 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can such people have children? If so, how are their children affected? < 1471911555 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess the next mystery is, why canonical.com does not have an SPF record set up < 1471911573 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, with the XY case *some* of the other genes doing that may still be around, so you get an incompletely masculinized human instead) < 1471911578 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does a SPF record mean? < 1471911639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's something that you put in your DNS for a domain, that sets out the conditions on which an email connection with a HELO or MAIL FROM on that domain is legitimate < 1471911654 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471911656 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: To my knowledge, not all mechanisms result in infertility, but many of them do. < 1471911660 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. actually comes from that domain) < 1471911699 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one common one is to state "an email will only legitimately have this domain in its MAIL FROM or HELO if the connection is being made from the IP in the domain's A record" < 1471911707 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The major relevant question here is if the ovaries or testicles are able to correctly form, and if so, if they're able to produce functioning gametes. < 1471911741 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is so that you can authenticate the server that relays the message as actually being the server that relays the message, rather than a fake < 1471911761 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case I am actually sending from the domain that the MAIL FROM is, but then the ISP will forward the message to the correct SMTP server, so it will also be legitimate if the ISP is forwarding it for me. < 1471911779 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq : In what kind of case are the gametes functional? < 1471911780 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, biology is stupidly complicated. < 1471911783 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very easy to set up and makes anti-spamming technologies work much more effectively as it allows them to gain trust in a relay < 1471911793 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well SPF is entirely about HELO and MAIL FROM, it says nothing about the From: line < 1471911803 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an ISP relay will change the MAIL FROM I think? < 1471911816 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to its own address < 1471911834 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the ISP will change the MAIL FROM to its own address. < 1471911937 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, my mail logs show the HELO but not the MAIL FROM < 1471911943 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could see if it changes the HELO, at least < 1471911948 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to see if I can turn on logging for MAIL FROM too < 1471912013 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sending the message first to ISP to have them forward it to the correct server is known as "smarthost" in the Exim configuration. (If I send a message directly to an external SMTP server, I normally get an error message that says that it is "graylisted", so I don't do that.) < 1471912025 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that will work for anonymous ip, although i thought it might also be good to a separate error message if they do post logged in to the right page, but get the format wrong < 1471912042 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then you can use two separate filters for the purpose < 1471912043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it remains to be seen if anyone actually has trouble with that. < 1471912056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to have a < 1471912102 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: It Depends. One example is persistant Müllerian duct syndrome, where normal male sexual development happens, *but* the sexual organs which develop from the Müllerian duct (fallopian tubes, uterus, internal portions of the vagina) also end up developing. < 1471912161 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so there are two ports on which emails are sent, 25 and 587 < 1471912171 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This can cause infertility if that ends up effecting development, but it doesn't necessarily. < 1471912188 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a message sent on 587 is assumed to be from an email sending user to a server, that typically requires authentication < 1471912199 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 is used for relays between servers < 1471912216 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. you use 587 when sending an email to your own mailserver, then your mailserver uses 25 to send to the recipient's mailserver) < 1471912229 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, spambots normally pretend to be a mailserver, so they make a bunch of port 25 connections < 1471912240 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sending to port 25 on the ISP, although that server is not accessible from outside of the ISP's network. < 1471912251 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I assume most things relaying on port 25 try STARTTLS? < 1471912254 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one of the jobs of a mailserver is to retry if there's a temporary error < 1471912268 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: quite probably; 587 is also plaintext + STARTTLS < 1471912286 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... i need ideas for stuff to add to pixel dungeon < 1471912289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if an email server receives a connection on port 25 from somewhere it's never heard of < 1471912300 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it normally simulates a few errors first to see if the other side reacts like a mailserver would < 1471912308 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although there is also a port 587 server for use if someone wants to send from the ISP's mail but is connecting from a cellular network or something else) < 1471912311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1471912311 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many spambots don't bother reacting to them properly because it would slow their spamming down < 1471912314 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called greylisting < 1471912315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPSLOCK IS STUCK < 1471912320 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT LEAST, IT'S STICKING < 1471912334 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you're in charge of pixel dungeon? < 1471912341 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1471912355 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought if everybody forks it, i might as well do it < 1471912383 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: older mail clients use 25 for submission rather than 587, so most ISPs will treat 25 like 587 if the message comes with appropriate auth (in this case, from being sent from inside their subnet) < 1471912394 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i buffed the blacksmith so far < 1471912396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1471912412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder if there's a way to disable capslock entirely...) < 1471912449 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I rebound my capslock to Compose < 1471912460 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a while back I rebound shift-shift to capslock, so I'd still have an easy way to type in allcaps < 1471912461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oooh, that might work < 1471912461 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: If you can change that keybinding then yes < 1471912464 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't come up that often < 1471912471 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can now foege weapon/armor + potion to give it an enchantment or inscription you desire < 1471912472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the shift-shift binding stopped working at some point < 1471912493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can change keybindings, but I think the official Microsoft keybinding maker doesn't let you rebind capslock < 1471912508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can only rebind character keys- letters, punctuation, symbols, numbers) < 1471912529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enter/shift/ctrl/alt/caps/tab are all unrebindable < 1471912538 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also can dio weapons into potions now < 1471912540 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, I have seen the keyboard layout making program for Windows and it does not allow rebinding capslock; many other keys also can't be rebound, including all number pad keys except for the . key < 1471912557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes < 1471912572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know if it's because Windows doesn't let you change those or because Microsoft thinks you shouldn't < 1471912592 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I use Linux which you can rebind everything (at least in X, I think) < 1471912643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hate the manufacturer mentality of "a normal user probably won't want to do this thing that is potentially useful, so we can just make it impossible to ever do it no matter how smart you are without switching software or rewriting part of the OS") < 1471912714 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also hate that stuff < 1471912748 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one thing why FOSS is better, and why UNIX is better. < 1471912756 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a limit on what you can do with combinating accents on win32? < 1471912905 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the win32 keyboard stuff is for doing all the italian/croatian/thai/etc keyboards, not doing fancy stuff like mapping ctrl to tab and tab to caps < 1471913002 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had caps bound to Esc/Ctrl for as long as I can remember < 1471913068 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I also don't mess about with keymaps, I just reprogram my keyboard. < 1471913105 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok if you want to emulate the space cadet lisp machine keyboard in windows, you'll be disappointed yet < 1471913148 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have enough keys to do that < 1471913160 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: how often do you change between Esc and Ctrl? < 1471913161 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if I got an Ergodox or something < 1471913164 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it do both? < 1471913170 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does both < 1471913176 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold for Ctrl, tap for Esc < 1471913181 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a vision of a key in caps lock position that does ctrl if you hold it while pressing another key, and esc if you tap it
< 1471913182 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1471913186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same idea < 1471913200 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often is Esc used these days? < 1471913211 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use a modal editor, a lot < 1471913222 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to be used a ton but I think it's mostly out of use now < 1471913259 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471913275 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guess technically it's not really a Caps Lock, it's just a key that I programmed to do that which is coincidentally in the same spot. < 1471913298 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I have used software on occasion to get the same effect on built-in boards < 1471913305 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: the joke is that you bind caps lock to ctrl if you use emacs and esc if you use vim < 1471913320 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: almost all keyboards have "caps lock" printed on that key though < 1471913327 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I used Evil, so I do both :D < 1471913338 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because although many #esoteric denizens are the sort to rebind keyboards, fewer of them change the physical keycaps < 1471913339 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I normally just use Ctrl+[ for escape in vim though < 1471913354 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer from my last job had an azerty keyboard < 1471913363 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it was set to English layout, sometimes to French layout < 1471913369 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but how often do you pay attention to Caps Lock? :D < 1471913379 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mostly I just typed in English but with French keycaps < 1471913379 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :azerty is crazy < 1471913392 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think of it as a more convenient Ctrl, and now I get weirded out when I use other people's computers < 1471913402 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift to type numbers? wut? < 1471913458 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember using a computer that had both caps lock and shift lock < 1471913460 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, an AZERTY keyboard would drive me crazy, even set to an English layout. < 1471913466 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why you'd use a shift lock < 1471913492 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one annoying thing is that with caps lock on, holding shift didn't let you type in lowercase < 1471913504 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was annoying because I was using a programming language which required all keywords to be uppercase < 1471913509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of dressing baby boys in one color and girls in another < 1471913509 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/a/uei6y < 1471913516 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this mostly just lead to everything being uppercase as mixing case was too tedious) < 1471913521 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm used to not just a QWERTY keyboard, I'm used to ANSI mechanical layout QWERTY keyboards. < 1471913525 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: If you think shift to type numbers is weird, that's my layout above < 1471913531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should use a 27-color system < 1471913544 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While that AZERTY keyboard, just like a standard UK QWERTY keyboard, would be an ISO mechanical layout keyboard. < 1471913545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^3 colors (3 categories, 3 options) < 1471913560 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One category is gender (boy, girl, other) < 1471913567 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: red on grey makes it quite hard to read, and reverse video doesn't help < 1471913577 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Or we could stop ascribing meaning to random colors < 1471913603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is morality (good, evil, neutral) < 1471913603 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq : is that the one with the straight enter key rather than the flipped L shape? < 1471913615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do you get at the alternative combinations? holding modifier keys, or are there seven keyboards next to each other? < 1471913615 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I might have a link to the layout editor. Hang on < 1471913620 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yes, that's the ANSI layout. < 1471913642 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one is the order (lawful, neutral, chaotic) < 1471913642 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The red keys are held down to get to specific layers, and some of them are modal < 1471913673 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The layout on the top right is a "dead" layer. I hit what's basically comma to get to numbers and special symbols < 1471913686 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the qwerty and steno layouts have their own switches < 1471913713 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2b875f7d5d76fe4408c0a5b3bd76ddae < 1471913720 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you want to mess with colors < 1471913791 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386f:4d82:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471913809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sharia Lawful Good? < 1471913828 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Better yet, here's black on white: < 1471913828 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@_backcolor=%23292727&name=Workman%20Dead%20Planck%20with%20KWM%20and%20Plover&author=Jack%20Henahan&switchMount=cherry&pcb:true%3B&@_c=%23ffffff&a:7%3B&=Tab&=Q&=D&=R&=W&=B&=J&=F&=U&=P&=%2F%3B&=Back%20space&_x:0.5%3B&=&=%25&=%2F&&=%3F&=+&=%2F@&=$&=%2F_&=%5B&=%5D&=!&=%3B&@=Esc&=A&=S&=H&=T&=G&=Y&=N&=E&=O&=I&='&_x:0.5%3B&=&=%2F%2F&=(&=%2F=&=0&=%7B&=%7D&=1&=*&=) < 1471913834 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&=-&='%3B&@=Shift&=Z&=X&=M&=C&=V&=K&=L&=Dead&=.&=%2F%2F&=Enter&_x:0.5%3B&=&=6&=7&=8&=9&=%7C&=%5C&=2&=3&=4&=5&=%3B&@=Ctrl&=RAlt&=LAlt&=⌘&=Fn&=&=&=KWM&=%2F&larr%2F%3B&=%2F&darr%2F%3B&=%2F&uarr%2F%3B&=%2F&rarr%2F%3B&_x:0.5%3B&=&=&=%3C&=~&=%60&=,&=,&=%23&=%5E&=%3E&=&=%3B&@_y:0.5%3B&=~&=!&=%2F@&=%23&=$&=%25&=%5E&=%2F&&=*&=(&=)&=Back%20space&_x:0.5%3B&=Tab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=Back%20space%3 < 1471913840 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B&@=Del&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&=F5&=F6&=%2F_&=+&=%7B&=%7D&=%7C&_x:0.5%3B&=Esc&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F%3B&='%3B&@=Shift&=F7&=F8&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&=%7C&=±&=.&=Vol+&=Enter&_x:0.5%3B&=Shift&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=,&=.&=%2F%2F&=Enter%3B&@=Ctrl&=RAlt&=LAlt&=⌘&_c=%23b05858%3B&=Fn&_c=%23ffffff%3B&=&=&=Adjust&=⏮&=⏭&=Vol-&=⏯&_x:0.5%3B&=Ctrl&=RAlt&=LAlt&=⌘&=Fn&=&=&=KWM&=%2F&larr%2F%3B&=%2F&darr%2 < 1471913846 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F%3B&=%2F&uarr%2F%3B&=%2F&rarr%2F%3B%3B&@_y:0.5&f:2%3B&=Reset%20KWM&=&=Toggle%20Split&=Float&=Fill%20Cont-ainer&=Full%20Screen&=Insert%20Marked&=Insert%20West&=Insert%20South&=Insert%20North&=Insert%20East&=&_x:0.5&f:3%3B&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23&=%23%3B&@_f:2%3B&=&=Mark&=Rotate&=Prefix&=Term&=BSP&=Swap%20Marked&=Swap%20West&=Swap%20South&=Swap%20North&=Swap%20East&=& < 1471913852 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471913852 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_x:0.5&f:3%3B&=&=S&=T&=P&=H&=*&=*&=F&=P&=L&=T&=D%3B&@_f:2%3B&=Shift&=Mark%20West&=Mark%20South&=Mark%20North&=Mark%20East&=Mon-ocle&=Float&=Focus%20West&=Focus%20South&=Focus%20North&=Focus%20East&=Enter&_x:0.5&f:3%3B&=&=S&=K&=W&=R&=*&=*&=R&=B&=G&=S&=Z%3B&@_f:2%3B&=Ctrl&=RAlt&=LAlt&=⌘&=Adjust&=&=&_c=%23b05858%3B&=KWM&_c=%23ffffff%3B&=%2F&larr%2F%3B&=%2F&darr%2F%3B&=%2F&uarr%2F%3B&=%2F&rarr%2F%3B < 1471913854 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gag! < 1471913858 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&_x:0.5&f:3%3B&=Exit%20Plover&=&=&=A&=O&=&=&=E&=U&=&=&=%3B&@_y:0.5&x:6.25&f:2%3B&=&=DFU%20Mode&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=Del%3B&@_x:6.25%3B&=&=&=&=Audio%20On&=Audio%20Off&=OS%20X%20Keys&=Win%20Keys&=QWER-TY&=Work-man%20Dead&=Plover&=&=%3B&@_x:6.25%3B&=&=Voice-&=Voice+&=Music%20On&=Music%20Off&=MIDI%20On&=MIDI%20Off&=&=&=&=&=%3B&@_x:6.25%3B&=&=&=&=&_c=%23b05858%3B&=Adjust&_c=%23ffffff%3B&=&=&_c=%23b05858% < 1471913864 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3B&=Adjust&_c=%23ffffff%3B&=&=&=&= < 1471913867 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1471913869 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1471913872 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/jhenahan/ef372d1b77b2214ba645a7d324609bdf < 1471913873 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you've stopped fakelagging < 1471913874 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bad < 1471913876 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1471913879 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yikes < 1471913880 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just starting to type the commands to kick you < 1471913886 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471913896 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not as a punishment, it's just the typical way to handle people with out-of-control clients) < 1471913905 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally understood < 1471913918 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had no idea it was going to give me that mess instead of a nice gist URL :/ < 1471913959 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually fairly impressed that it managed to wordwrap it < 1471913990 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, irssi < 1471913990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most clients would have given up trying to fit an URL that long onto IRC long ago < 1471914017 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would have typed the previous sentence sooner if I hadn't spent so long trying to figure out which indefinite article "URL" uses) < 1471914020 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto split has.... some advantages < 1471914066 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably see about altering the splitting strategy to just give up on URLs in general < 1471914082 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a useful behavior ever < 1471915096 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471915449 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471915565 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that Andrew Topping was so reclusive as to not even have a Wikipedia page < 1471919180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471920551 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471920576 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471920596 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471921233 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471921684 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471921684 0 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1471921684 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1471921715 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471921792 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen both kind of indefinite article "URL" uses and I think it does not matter much < 1471921850 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471922730 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471923662 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well do you think it might work in a computer program if the text of Magic: the Gathering cards is written using RDF and then is compiled into the code needed to execute? Examples might be [:counter [:target :spell]] and [:destroy [:target [:and [:not :black], :creature]]] < 1471926244 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471931121 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471931529 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471931905 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471932595 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1471933824 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471933920 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471934409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471934456 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1471935087 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471935110 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471935382 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~rs/talks/QuicksortIsOptimal.pdf in the examples, are the arrays 1-indexed? < 1471936102 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is unimpressed by O(n^2) worst case behavior
< 1471936155 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in his example in page 9, k is not declared < 1471936214 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, it is possible to devise a variant of quicksort with O(n log n) behavior... < 1471936608 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471937191 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is unimpressed by pdf pages being sideways
< 1471937227 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You can make O(nlogn) guaranteed quicksort with the right pivot choosing algorithm, but it has worse constant factors < 1471937255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even quicksort at that point? sounds more like a cheap ripoff < 1471937257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quacksort < 1471937262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those people don't have all their ducks in a row < 1471937280 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you can also know if you're in a pathological case and switch pivot choosing algorithms appropriately. :) < 1471937312 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually just aiming for the pun there < 1471937343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell i'm not serious because the sentence isn't capitalized < 1471937359 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if this actually performs well, I've just thought of it, not tested it) < 1471937413 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_of_medians < 1471937434 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm aware. < 1471937439 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also choose random pivots, which will hit O(n^2) behaviour if you're really, really unlucky < 1471937449 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But otherwise will be faster < 1471937468 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing I'm not sure of is if quicksort-and-use-median-of-medians-when-you're-in-worst-case-behavior-land is actually worth it. < 1471937476 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really really unlucky would involve an adversary that knows the state of your random number generator, essentially < 1471937492 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Random pivots are faster < 1471937507 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1471937518 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tempting, use a CSPRNG for qsort. :) < 1471937545 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*cough*arc4random or get out) < 1471937626 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arc4random? < 1471937671 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BSD API for a CSPRNG that's nice, quick, and easy, and glibc really should have it. < 1471937722 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the argument that userspace CSPRNGs are rarely justified compared to just using urandom. < 1471937881 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the rather bigger argument that having CSPRNGs be hard to use means nobody uses 'em, and instead implements their own, shit implementation that often doesn't even work correctly. < 1471937887 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define arc4random() random() < 1471937897 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that. < 1471938162 0 :mad!~madbrain@modemcable244.148-20-96.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda! < 1471940402 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471941140 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471941164 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471941273 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471941735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471942001 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471942096 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471942413 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471942922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the new card is Spy Kit < 1471942944 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and it's not really as powerful as the un-card, because the un-card works anywhere, this only on the battlefield < 1471942948 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1471943012 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471943114 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I've got a friend planning a spy kit deck < 1471943163 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi seconds ~ 1 nanocentury < 1471943260 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes I have seen that, and my question (still not answered) is, which layer does the name-changing effect apply? < 1471943354 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In my own collection of custom cards I have added the name-changing layer directly after the text-changing layer; I have done this far before Spy Kit card was revealed.) < 1471943504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The notes do not seem to answer that question, although they do answer the other questions I had (about monarch and about the new keyword actions and keyword abilities), as well as a lot of questions that I did not have because existing rules explain it clearly enough. < 1471943643 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b008:a162:5360:cf50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471943712 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does recaptcha ask me to copy and paste a random string that's valid for 2 minutes? < 1471943718 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what security does it add? < 1471943728 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots can't copy and paste? o.O < 1471943824 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It adds security against XSS I think? < 1471944095 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which layer => we'll probably find that out from the set FAQ only. there are usually some rules questions open until that < 1471944175 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my guess is that it applies later than ability changes and earlier than p/t changes, but it rarely matters. < 1471944389 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Arcane Savant also needs a new rule in the comp rules, near the Leyline rules, to clarify how it works and whether you get to reapply it for each mulligan. The set FAQ will clear that up too. < 1471945137 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and I'm not even sure what the Spy Kit ability means in the sense of what names it chooses, eg. whether it takes only the names of cards not banned in the current format, but it probably also doesn't matter. < 1471945158 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/also// < 1471945728 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume meaning cards legal in the current format (which seem the most logical way to me), but I am not sure??? < 1471945910 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471945922 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471945969 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it seems it probably doesn't matter, because Spy Kit is legal only in eternal formats (vintage, legacy, commander), and it seems there are no silver-bordered or banned creature cards for those formats whose name is a type combination or the name of a token. < 1471946203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, there can also be custom formats (which might or might not include unofficial cards, as well as other arbitrary selections of official cards)? For these reason, and also I don't like that names of implicitly named tokens can compare equal to card names, so I have written some of my own rules. < 1471946331 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own (unofficial) rules specify that the name of an implicitly named token is a (possibly empty) (unordered) set of subtypes, rather than a "canonical name" which is the name of a card or explicitly named token. < 1471946341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, these rule seem more sense mathematically. < 1471946384 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So the possibility that a card name and subtype may be spelled the same way in English is irrelevant.) < 1471946385 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: about named tokens, if I have a Llanowar Mentor in play and artificially evolve it to replace Elf to Viashino in its text, then what token will it put into play? do you dislike that kind of named token too? < 1471946450 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still named Llanowar Elves, since that is an explicit name and not a subtype. < 1471946464 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the subtype of the token will now be Viashino Druid. < 1471946490 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, and the Mentor itself will also be a Viashino Spellshaper < 1471946497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1471946604 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the token will have the same name as the card "Llanowar Elves". I believe all of these things are the same both in official and unofficial rules though, anyways.) < 1471946677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure how it works officially. artificial evolution still has to act on plurals like "Elves" so as to work on cards like Wirewood Pride correctly < 1471946711 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it probably still doesn't act on the "named Llanowar Elves" part < 1471946755 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the word "Elves" in the text there is still not a subtype so it still doesn't act on it. But, if it says "Elves" where it is the plural of a subtype, then I would think it is still the same word; the way you write it in any language should be irrelevant. < 1471946862 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but in the official rules how the card name is written in English still matters for cards like Giant Slug or Viashino Skeleton or Elder Druid, sadly < 1471946897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that is too bad it is why I made better rules for unofficial. Hopefully they can fix the official rules too < 1471946908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check what your exact fix is < 1471946999 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is exactly what I wrote above, although I give more examples in my file < 1471947129 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if I understand right, then in your rules, (1) tokens that are given a name only implicitly from its subtype has a name that never compares equal to a name that's given explicitly or copied from a card name; and text-changing effects like Artificial Evolution don't change card names, whether they're on the card name line or mentioned in the rule text as a card name. is that right? < 1471947202 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although with my rule also Artificial Evolution does change subtypes listed on the card name line (although only tokens can ever have subtypes on the card name line). < 1471947257 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok < 1471947301 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if a name is the empty set of subtypes, that is not the same as having no name at all. < 1471947329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you ever have a name that's the empty set of subtypes? < 1471947333 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's ever possible < 1471947373 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if with official cards, but with unofficial cards it seem that it clearly should be. < 1471947595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and also, both in the official rules and your rules, if you change color words (eg. with Spectral Shift or Sleight of Mind), that doesn't change color words that happen to be in a card name (whether it's on a name line or rules text) < 1471947633 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that part is the same, too. < 1471947704 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have updated my file to write the rule better, since it previously did not actually explain much. < 1471947772 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a named counter that has a name that has a subtype or color word in it, but probably no. < 1471947840 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, but even if it is, it is not a subtype word or color word, I think. < 1471948004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to get a name of all named counters, with "counter" meaning two things < 1471948060 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find a list once somewhere, although I think they ought to add it to the Comprehensive Rules too for reference < 1471948306 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my variant rule for implicit names of tokens? Do you know who else like it or hate it? < 1471948446 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's "mine counter" technically, and "Mine" is a land type, but that doesn't come up in rules problems, because the text-changing effects only work with basic-land-types, and the cards like Shimmer and Traveler's Cloak don't interact with the counter name in any way. < 1471948459 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1471948467 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vision Charm lets you change text from land types < 1471948478 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if "mine counter" isn't capitalized anyways, then it doesn't suggest a subtype. < 1471948513 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, probably < 1471948537 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Vision Charm doesn't let me change Mine Layer to use swamp counters instead of mine counters < 1471948978 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did make the unofficial card to change counter names in text. You can't change "+1/+1 counter" into anything else, but you can change "experience counter" into "poison counter". < 1471949089 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Counter_(marker)/List_of_Counters might be useful < 1471949233 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is what I have seen before. < 1471949355 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471949494 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks the lists -- "Orgg", what the heck is that? apparently some crazy old goblins. maybe it's what they call the Uruk-Hai.
< 1471949592 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pest" -- apparently a card from Mirrodin makes Pest tokens < 1471949717 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. 0/1... I guess they can grow by other effects and become more than a nuisance < 1471949785 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there are also Prism creature tokens from an old card, Reflection creature tokens from two old cards < 1471949829 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course the famous Sand creature tokens < 1471949871 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually two cards put Sand creature tokens into play < 1471950025 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now for the counter list. There are gold counters (and tokens *named* Gold, which is irrelevant), currency counters, and credit counters. (Also arrow counters and arrowhead counters.) < 1471950224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are devotion counters and echo counters which have no relation to those keywords. There are level counters and experience counters, and they're not the same. < 1471950246 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are fungus counter and different Fungus creatures < 1471950278 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( exparation counters ) < 1471950308 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITIM exasperation < 1471950430 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the Fungus creatures have Thallid or Pallid or Thelon in their name, they use spore counters to produce Saprolings. Whereas some Fungus creatures and an instant have Spor- in their name and put fungus counters on a permanent. Not confusing at all. < 1471950552 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh well, it's not really much worse than some of the strangely named recently printed cards.) < 1471950576 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these counters have strange names. < 1471950629 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there are fate counters and omen counters. < 1471950647 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :petrification counters and paralyzation counters. < 1471950796 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are infection counters, poison counters, plague counters, but also healing counters and vitality counters. tide counters (Homarid) and time counters. < 1471950811 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :age counters too < 1471950859 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :age counters for cumulative upkeep, time counters for suspend and vanishing, fade counters for fading. < 1471950964 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That allow you to see some of the thing that can be interacted with by my "Aether Hack" card. < 1471950981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as what cards might interact even without that. < 1471951085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, how does Aether Hack interact with leveling cards? I don't recall how those work. < 1471952129 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471953326 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471953537 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No effect, since the text of the card does not say "level counter". < 1471953572 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, it can affect other cards to cause them to place level counters on the leveler card.) < 1471953910 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ok. So the text-changing effects don't see inside the definitions of the level up keyword (or the fear keyword)? So the keyword abilities "represent" abilities (whatever that means), don't put on text, even if the ability represented by level up is an activated ability that can be stolen by an Experiment Kraj, right? < 1471954056 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Level up is an activated ability, so I would think so. < 1471954166 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'd like to say is that when the rules say that a keyword ability (possibly parametrized) represents a set of abilities, that probably means that the keyword ability adds those other abilities to the card, but that happens in the layer for abilities, not the layer for text change, so those other abilities aren't part of the card text and aren't affected by text-changing abilities, right? < 1471954307 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes those other abilities aren't part of the card text I believe, but I am not sure about the layers < 1471954631 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas there are still a LOT of things that act on text level or below: at the copy layer: (creating a token, creating copy of spell, permanent becoming a copy of or entering tb as a copy of something, Primal, planeswalker's extra ability, morph and other face-down, double-faced, meld, flip, split and fuse), at text layer: (change word in text abilities, splice onto, entwine, overload), < 1471954637 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's probably more I forgot about. < 1471954652 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's complicated and I don't understand all the interactions. < 1471954769 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471954863 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am guessing that if a keyword represents two abilities, then that text causes it to have those two abilities instead of just one ability. < 1471954934 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text is not a continuous effect so the layer system does not apply, I think. < 1471954954 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok, but wait, < 1471954998 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comp rules also say that "Level up is an activated ability." so maybe the Kraj or Quicksilver Elemental actually steals the level up itself too? < 1471955004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ugly < 1471955024 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for something like level up it doesn't matter if something ends up having two copies < 1471955036 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes the level up ability, but the level counters do nothing for Kraj < 1471955119 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: forget the kraj then, just have something temporarily cytoshaped to a Quicksilver Elemental, make it steal all activated abilities that way, then let the cytoshape time out, the stolen ability stays < 1471955131 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just assume that any permanent can have any activated ability stolen on it < 1471955190 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I wonder how that interacts with keywords that are activated abilities or represent an activated ability (and possibly other abilities) < 1471955214 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see if there's an ugly case < 1471955296 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: ÆON CHICKEN < 1471955413 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can steal an "equip {1}" ability from a sword onto a knight that's not an equipment or aura or forti, and I think then you can attach the knight to an elephant you control but the attachment doesn't do anything until the knight becomes the copy of something later. < 1471955423 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really what I'm after though < 1471955522 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can activate the ability but since it is not Equipment or Aura, it doesn't do anything, unless it somehow becomes such a thing before it resolves. < 1471955545 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what, why? is there anything that says that only equipments or auras can be attached? < 1471955569 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the rules only say that creature auras can't be attached, and the same about creature equipment and creature forti. < 1471955616 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, only Aura, Equipment, Fortification can be attached to anything, and only if it is not also a creature (although I don't like this latter part and made a rule variant that discards it). < 1471955634 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh true < 1471955640 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a rule for that < 1471955655 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not? < 1471955656 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see < 1471955667 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 701.3b says (in part): If an effect tries to attach an object that isn't an Aura, Equipment, or Fortification to another object or player, the effect does nothing and the first object doesn't move. < 1471955686 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes,, that < 1471955689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :701.3b < 1471955699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then you can only attach those < 1471955703 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1471955746 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471955773 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a permanent remain attached to something even when that permanent is no longer an aura or equipment or forti? < 1471955866 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It becomes unattached as a state-based action (rule 704.5q). < 1471955877 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1471955882 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471955900 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah, nice < 1471955905 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that should cover all the holes < 1471956002 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't think there's any keyword ability where it causes any problem with stealing all activated abilities, because there are very few keyword abilities that create activated abilities that work from the battlefield. < 1471957032 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly with some help, I may be able to form custom card sets, that may have some of the new rules, new keywords (abilities/actions), new subtypes, new cards (including ones I haven't yet listed in my file), and/or reprints. < 1471957711 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:b008:a162:5360:cf50 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471957717 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471957774 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471959551 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471960936 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471962120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471962132 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471963399 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471963565 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471963637 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471964672 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn how to use greasemonkey or something like that < 1471964704 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy, userscripts.org, look stuff up, change parts of code < 1471964810 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471964874 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minpoijjikop < 1471964875 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minpoijjikop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1471964891 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471964905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new filter is eerily effective, but disturbingly it's the only one matching any of the spam. < 1471965846 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: wait, you have a keyboard layout that involves that classic stenography thing layout as one of the shift states? that looks crazy < 1471965857 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading the scrollback of #esoteric... weird
< 1471965927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 after pondering why rule 3 didn't catch one of the spams, i've concluded it actually checks for at least _two_ links hth. (also one of DatCodingGuy's edits would have got caught if it only checked for one.) < 1471965927 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471965980 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471965982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/abusefilter14]]4 modify10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10modified [[02Special:AbuseFilter/310]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/3/diff/prev/53]]) < 1471966407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's long log just disappeared in a puff of magic(TG) < 1471966660 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471966885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471967197 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471967387 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 42 < 1471967390 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1471967398 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, seems good enough < 1471967442 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> (b -> a) -> b < 1471967443 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1471967527 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471967529 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why is my academic account getting metaspam? < 1471967544 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Would you be interested in *Bentley Systems Users List* for your sales and marketing campaigns?" < 1471967544 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471967583 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where in this instance, "metaspam" is spam that sells addresses to spam... physically, it appears) < 1471967616 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because you're such an enterprising guy < 1471967649 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I now... why am I always the last person to learn about these things. < 1471967673 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should turn lambdabot into a profitable business < 1471967680 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1471967697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could add a dow jones plugin < 1471967722 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar MSFT < 1471967727 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1471967756 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("all four letter acronyms look the same to me"... wasn't there an xkcd with approximately that title?) < 1471967790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1471967830 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wasn't that all series of seven? < 1471967888 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah, you're good! < 1471967904 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: xkcd 1417 and 1554 < 1471967910 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what I meant. < 1471967919 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, https://xkcd.com/1460/ is relevant to this channel. < 1471968037 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to explainxkcd for two of those
< 1471968039 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :has randall ever turned up here? < 1471968047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to my knowledge < 1471968079 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar NSFW < 1471968079 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1471968083 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1471968084 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 231450Z 08004KT 030V150 9999 FEW070 26/13 Q1026 NOSIG < 1471968091 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not on #esoteric I believe, but I think he was on irc at some point... or not? I dunno < 1471968103 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(surprisingly pleasant... I guess it's the low humidity) < 1471968180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1471968181 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 231450Z 26004KT 9999 BKN035 16/10 Q1025 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 31003KT < 1471968640 0 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1471968641 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1471968648 0 :int-e_!?@? NICK :int-e < 1471968979 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think i ever realized until looking at that just now that smfw is "see my face when" < 1471969355 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I wonder how many PhD theses will arise out of the The DAO debacle and subsequent Ethereum fork... this must be fascinating to study in detail. < 1471969430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from an economic and sociological perspective; technically I think it's comparatively boring, though apparently since the two chains are quite similar there are now replay attacks using transactions intended on one chain on the other) < 1471969682 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/aqsort.c 3. Partitioning is a contiguous phase of n-O(1) comparisons, all against the same pivot value. < 1471969689 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this requirement mean? < 1471969800 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you select a single pivot to partition the list into two parts, rather than, say, pick 4 pivots to partition the list into 4 parts in a single pass. (that would not be very quicksort-ish) < 1471969859 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps one could dynamically change the pivot while partitioning (keeping track of the minimum of the larger part and the maximum of the lower part along with the currently selected pivot) < 1471970275 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. Conspiracy: Take the Crown is not even in http://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/products/card-set-archive . They usually put sets there much before they're released. < 1471970289 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how would that book keeping help? < 1471970314 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wrong. zzo38: release notes (setfaq) for Conspiracy 2 is out: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/conspiracy-take-crown-release-notes-2016-08-22 < 1471970331 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1471970384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1471970423 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it would help defeat awsort because it assumes that there are long runs of comparisons involving the same key < 1471970430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aqsort < 1471970450 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see < 1471970452 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1471971129 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471971150 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471971557 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retro chess problem, to figure out the last few moves: 2QRNbqr/pk1pBppp/RppKp3/P2N4/8/7P/2P1P1P1/5B2 < 1471971648 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471971816 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471972001 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric : (from an economic and sociological perspective; technically I think it's comparatively boring, though apparently since the two chains are quite similar there are now replay attacks using transactions intended on one chain on the other) < 1471972005 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you were intentionally forking < 1471972021 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't you make the fork have a different hash algorithm or something? < 1471972036 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or otherwise make it different enough) < 1471972178 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, < 1471972194 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if we could have a different "style" of BFJoust hills? < 1471972227 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monthly tournaments where competitors may be secretly submitted, and are revealed only at the end when the whole tournament is crunched. < 1471972254 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This defuses Kiseki and similar nonsense. < 1471972298 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: you could and they didn't < 1471972336 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ref: http://www.coindesk.com/rise-replay-attacks-ethereum-divide/ < 1471972368 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh kiseki is not actually a real problem. the problem is when you run your program enough times to push everything else off the hill, which is a jerk move < 1471972442 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :One instance of the proof of concept, then normal programs? < 1471972453 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scoring algorithm does converge onto 100-0 for everything else if something maintains a 100% win rate. < 1471972455 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... there's that. < 1471972472 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do think it would be neat to have a micro hill. one that you tweet at, and the entire program is contained in the tweet < 1471972531 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: one of the scoring algorithms does. its an issue i brought up when proposing it. < 1471972547 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are others selectable from the scores page < 1471972722 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471972751 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471972952 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1cf5:b0d3:47da:35c JOIN :#esoteric < 1471972965 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-atioazceptfbxweq QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471973138 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gcsbdpqpzzlypkwx JOIN :#esoteric < 1471973507 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471973804 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471974187 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hello < 1471974238 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, zzo38: for the M:tG set "Conspiracy: Take the Crown", comprehensive rules update and release notes (setfaq) are out now, see http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/conspiracy-take-crown-release-notes-2016-08-22 and http://magic.wizards.com/en/gameinfo/gameplay/formats/comprehensiverules < 1471974290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the strangest part to me is the artifact card Spy Kit, which is a less general version of an un-card. < 1471974299 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais523 < 1471974330 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not really, _____ affected itself, spy kit affects other things < 1471974332 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1471974334 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i ever ask you how you got credit for an integral in the brain age tas? < 1471974362 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: spy kit is weaker because it only affects permanents, whereas the unnamed card works in any zone < 1471974372 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471974386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think so, but it's fairly simple < 1471974402 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wanted a "really complex equation" to work as the answer to one of the questions < 1471974405 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and knew I was good at maths < 1471974420 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it'd make more sense to do something that looked hard than actually was hard < 1471974431 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for extra fun, I made it a joke equation < 1471974475 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went by too fast to get the joke. how did "they" know you? < 1471974500 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwangoAC (the person who was presenting/commentating) and I have been working together on a TAS for years now < 1471974510 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that the unnamed card affects only itself barely matters if you're interested only in rules complications. you can use cytoshape to quicksliver elemental to add the unnamed card's ability to almost any permanent, except possibly an aura. < 1471974515 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also I was expecting some people to screenshot/rewind to look at it) < 1471974518 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like the degree of x in the polynomial (a-x)(b-x)...(z-x)? < 1471974542 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you definitely have to pause to read it < 1471974544 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well there are things like placing spy kit on a "note this information during the draft" card < 1471974556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't do anything but only because a rule was specifically added to prevent it doing anything < 1471974562 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a TAS of what? < 1471974564 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack < 1471974571 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I remmeber that one. was that one of the definite integrals that reduce to an integral of an odd function on an integral symmetric around zero? < 1471974592 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: actually the function in question's a constant < 1471974595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone mentioned another of those definite integrals recently < 1471974597 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh < 1471974635 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's why spy kit is *weaker*. it only changes names of permanents. < 1471974641 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a) it's disguised behind a couple of trig identities, b) one half is easier to solve the definite integral of than another so most people who've tried to solve it haven't realised it's a constant function < 1471974668 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but spy kit is an easy way to get an unusual name combined with an unusual ability < 1471974673 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put it on experiment kraj, for example < 1471974681 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_____ only has abilities if you cytoshape it or the like < 1471974708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or if you steal the ability from the unnamed card with a quicksilver elemental (or experiment kraj) < 1471974722 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: spy kit might be easier to use in practice < 1471974740 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: if you allow un-cards, there's also the spy kit + wordmail combo < 1471974747 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying the unnamed card lets you do more rules breakage if you are willing to consider scenareos unrealistic in a game because they require ten card combos < 1471974752 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone's worked out quite how much of a stat boost that gives yet, but it's a lot < 1471974775 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hehe < 1471974787 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also spy kit + magnetic theft + eradicate is a stupid combo that's got a lot of love on Reddit < 1471974794 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that with _____ < 1471974833 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in http://www.komal.hu/forum/forum.cgi?a=to&tid=7&tc=4021 post [4006] is the definite integral that reduces to an integral of an odd function around a central interval < 1471974838 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plus some other term) < 1471974875 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah yes, magnetic theft. that would be crazy < 1471974904 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took people a while to figure out the magnetic theft trick, they were trying to do something with harmless offering before < 1471974978 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 612.6 says it count as a text-changing effect. < 1471975039 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Crumble to Dust could also work, but hard to pull off, you have to animate a land an opponent controls first, such as with Wind Zendikon. < 1471975044 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is the joke just that you used trig functions to represent x^2/4 < 1471975044 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1471975046 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't work < 1471975053 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, um < 1471975062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the trig functions entirely cancel each other out < 1471975069 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a few of the more obscure trig identities < 1471975076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can, but it also needs Magnetic Theft or some such thing < 1471975081 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you won't find them directly in most trig identity lists, you have to rearrange the equation somewhat first) < 1471975189 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Dichotomancy < 1471975202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dichotomancy should work against a spy kit < 1471975237 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471975251 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! Exclusion Ritual works with the Spy Kit on your own bear < 1471975259 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bear/squire/ < 1471975269 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1471975270 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1471975272 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it doesn't < 1471975273 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i solved the integral by hand and notice they cancel but i dont understand why < 1471975275 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471975275 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ignore me, I'm stupid < 1471975300 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the effect I was going for < 1471975358 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok < 1471975429 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nvm i get it. i was ebtering it into desmos wrong < 1471975440 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is desmos? < 1471975452 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you have more than four of the unnamed card in a deck if you change its name to different things before the match starts? In fact, can you have the unnamed card in your deck for a Standard constructed tournament if you change its name to Forest before the match starts? < 1471975472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was wondering about that < 1471975485 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the answer would be yes if you could somehow generate {2} during deck construction < 1471975497 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I should look that up in maro's old un-faq < 1471975545 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/ask-wizards-june-2007-2007-06-01 < 1471975597 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no, not that article < 1471975708 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno then < 1471975741 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also < 1471975790 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it would have taken less space to do int_blah^(blah+8) 2cos^2(blah*x/2)-cos(blah*x). is the factor of 1/2 just to make it uglier? < 1471975868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pretty much < 1471975874 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/conspiracy-take-the-crown/27511-spy-kit ... mm, the oracle text has a typo, but is it in any way official? < 1471976432 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's no oracle text released yet < 1471976449 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's not an official oracle text, it's just a text typed from some preview photos for that site < 1471976491 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you'll have oracle text when it appears in Gatherer, although it will probably be the same text as appears in the release notes http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/conspiracy-take-crown-release-notes-2016-08-22 < 1471978565 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471978848 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471979497 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.214.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471980759 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471981716 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471981825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471982330 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471983198 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471983465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1471983716 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471984227 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471984568 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471984638 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471984806 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1471985632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1471985892 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471986038 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471986357 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471986390 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471987060 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471987731 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471987786 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471987793 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471988928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471989022 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471989230 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d03:c800:1cf5:b0d3:47da:35c QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471989238 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1471989280 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471989461 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471989513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-89.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471990761 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471990951 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1471992248 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471992287 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471993964 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471993979 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471994420 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471994599 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know much about crypto? < 1471994624 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover. I do, somewhat? < 1471994644 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. do you crypto, bro? < 1471994683 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get a sense of what https://github.com/PhantomHoover/trepan/blob/master/machine.js#L2044 is trying to do? < 1471994714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:175.44.4.16310]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): persistent spammer < 1471994840 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: looks like it extracts a 128 bit fingerprint or IV from a 32 bit number. < 1471994882 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be 32-bit i don't think... < 1471994919 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :v0 through v3 are 32-bit words in a 128-bit input value < 1471995025 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1471995092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my instinct was just to treat it as a black box and find the solution to the puzzle elsewhere < 1471995112 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471995114 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a puzzle? < 1471995118 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471995119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. only through putty and my browser hth < 1471995133 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://skullcode.com/ < 1471995159 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll to address 6666 and overwrite the ! with a space < 1471995261 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot... < 1471995263 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president-in-office of the council' s conclusions because we do indeed focus upon money rather than making those workers who already have difficulty making sense of all the others, i am delighted to acknowledge the fact that the council must now be content with mere rhetoric. it must stop serving mammon ciba-geigy, that is the origin of the various research agencies which are concerned with land-use planning, to avoid < 1471995270 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i know < 1471995288 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :best i can tell it was posted on some of the chans in autumn last year < 1471995300 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got linked to it on irc in like may < 1471995328 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mention this because then and now i could find no evidence that anyone got any further than me < 1471995361 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and back then i reverse-engineered and disassembled the source and i couldn't find any way forward < 1471995385 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471995414 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the next steps are, btw: scroll up from the skull and you'll see a thought bubble from it saying '00005fe4' < 1471995466 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says 00005fe4 indeed. I am mystified. < 1471995467 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471995476 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :write that address (little-endian ofc.) where it says 'code offset' on line 00006640 and overwrite the space < 1471995485 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471995500 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 'frag>[!] The scoring algorithm does converge onto 100-0 for everything else if something maintains a 100% win rate. <-- pretty sure i discussed at some point how to avoid that ruining the hill < 1471995688 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried 0x00000000 as an offset. it freezes :D < 1471995717 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by dividing into strongly connected components, essentially. although it was probably not implemented. < 1471995768 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't solve the problem of someone submitting several copies of the same program, anyway. < 1471995813 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per-user program limit? < 1471995818 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone submits more than, say, 5 programs < 1471995827 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bump the lowest scoring program that they've submitted < 1471995832 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than the lowest scoring programp eriod < 1471995834 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :period* < 1471995844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: that's not immune to nick changes. < 1471995856 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the magic numbers seem to contain digits of pi at least, the rest might be a simplification of a random hash function or something... maybe it's been broken in a way that you can generate a colliding password easily < 1471995869 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also ends the era of ais523 < 1471995870 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric ::V < 1471995909 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, BF Joust may be broken at this point < 1471995918 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we may need to keep submissions secret, at least in the details < 1471995943 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, i googled the magic numbers and they're identical to those in ftp://ftp.maths.tcd.ie/src/security/ssh-2.0.13/lib/sshcrypt/dlfix.c < 1471995984 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is probably some standard crypto function < 1471996037 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, my proposal is monthly hills. < 1471996052 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Through the month, people can submit programs which are kept secret until the evaluation at the end. < 1471996055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original BF Joust used weekly competitions, IIRC < 1471996062 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so monthly competitions would make sense < 1471996066 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically my fear is that, because i can't solve the puzzle by doing stuff in the editor, maybe you have to cryptanalyse it to solve it? < 1471996076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should still probably have an instant-feedback hill for practicing on < 1471996085 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but possibly with an unofficial rule that you shouldn't metagame on it < 1471996097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover> that turns the screen red and writes 'keep going' above the skull, and that's as far as i've got <-- what happens if you try 61b0 + 2*(61b0-5fe4) ? < 1471996116 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a joke oerjan < 1471996140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *-2* < 1471996141 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is this meant to be a revere engineering challenge? < 1471996152 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia, that's how i treated it < 1471996164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but based on my success i think the answer is 'no' < 1471996171 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must be meant to solve it some other way < 1471996181 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it solved? < 1471996197 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in any place i could find that was indexed by google < 1471996233 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, from revere engineering, what's the general nature of the puzzle? < 1471996270 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, VM < 1471996319 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of the VM? it's a custom RISC-y CPU using memory-mapped IO < 1471996336 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what's being displayed on screen? < 1471996347 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So reverse engineering just gets you the VM spec, boring) < 1471996376 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a hex editor looking at the machine memory < 1471996384 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is that a joke oerjan <-- no, but i hadn't seen your googling comment < 1471996406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471996461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's just the simplest interpretation of "keep going" i could think of. < 1471996482 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the puzzle, as far as i can tell, is to decrypt the block of data from 60f0 to 65bf < 1471996577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't actually looking at the puzzle, mind you
< 1471996584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a breadcrumb trail of hooks in the hex editor that will decrypt a password box and fill it with a password that will then decrypt down to 61cf, which reveals the hook that turns the screen red < 1471996619 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that from raking through the disassembly i'm confident that there are no more hooks in the editor left to activate after that < 1471996809 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1471996821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's WA's list of indeterminate forms < 1471996938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0^0, ∞/∞, 0∞, ∞-∞, 1^∞, and ∞^9 < 1471996941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/9/0 < 1471996948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/\// < 1471996995 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 0/0 ? < 1471997004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, and 0/0 < 1471997016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's the one I searched, and it provided a list of "other indeterminate forms" < 1471997024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1471997025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no it didn't < 1471997031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I searched 0^0 < 1471997035 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just missed 0/0 < 1471997040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is my incompetence < 1471997088 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's 1^infty indeterminate? < 1471997092 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :∞^(-∞) should also work, i think < 1471997096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0^0 = 1, 0/0 = tau/2, ∞/∞=1, 0∞ = 0, ∞-∞ = 0, 1^∞ = 1, and ∞^0 = 1 < 1471997099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1471997101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was easy < 1471997113 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not really sure < 1471997126 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why is 0^x = 0 except for x=0? < 1471997130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it means basically that when you have limits going to the parts, you cannot say anything about the limit of the whole < 1471997155 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i get that, but 1 is not a limit < 1471997156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or hardly anything) < 1471997168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: anything can be a limit < 1471997171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Because it's useful to have x^0=1 forall x, and x^0 is more important than 0^x, and THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE < 1471997193 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no there cannot < 1471997193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x -> 1 and y -> ∞, you can say nothing about x^y. that's all. < 1471997194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can the limit be SPAAAAAAAAAAACE? < 1471997223 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but i do can say something about 1^x for every x < 1471997234 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: 0^0 is either equal to 0 OR 1 OR undefined; you can't have x^0 = 1 and 0^x = 0 forall x < 1471997241 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you seem not to get the point. < 1471997256 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1*1=1 < 1471997261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*1*1=1 < 1471997262 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's why it is indeterminate < 1471997278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, but having 0^0 = 1 adds nice things < 1471997310 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1471997322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does. < 1471997336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still indeterminate for calculus purposes. < 1471997387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have two real functions f x and g x that vanish at the origin and are analytic at 0, then (f x)^(g x) approaches 1 as x approaches 0 from the right < 1471997393 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, grade publish{d his 69th video < 1471997396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really understand most of what I just said, but it sounds like a good thing < 1471997401 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: gradeAunderA? < 1471997407 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1471997409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471997414 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy's an asshole < 1471997421 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1471997427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, ∞^(-∞) doesn't work, scratch that, it's clearly -> 0. < 1471997428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could give him more than one like per video < 1471997477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How does calculus work if you decide to use countable and uncountable infinities? < 1471997482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it make mathematicians cry? < 1471997492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, today was my second day of precalc (w/ trig) < 1471997501 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They taught Set-Builder notation, and I was happy < 1471997541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, when she wanted "the set of all multiples of pi" and I gave {n | n in Z} < 1471997551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She said that that doesn't work ;-; < 1471997559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]> If you have two real functions f x and g x that vanish at the origin and are analytic at 0, then (f x)^(g x) approaches 1 as x approaches 0 from the right <-- wat, i don't believe that. < 1471997561 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1471997573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the form that the book wants is {x | x=n, n in Z} < 1471997577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is stupid and ugly < 1471997612 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it is < 1471997621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any mathematician will tell you they're obviously equivalent, and that the notation is pretty standard, but that mine looks better < 1471997643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think she also had the whole numbers as 0,1,2,3... and the naturals as 1,2,3...) < 1471997647 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the infinities in calculus have nothing to do with cardinalities, so that's just nonsense. < 1471997657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Exactly, I figured that was the case < 1471997698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I think maybe she said that you write the irrationals with a blackboard bold I? I've never heard of that being the rule, and I think I saw a thread asking what to use and the answer was "choose whatever and define it at the top") < 1471997714 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the alternative answer to your question is "lebesgue measure theory" hth < 1471997739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then it's not the values that are the infinities, but the sizes of sets) < 1471997744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there needs to be a name for the non-zero reals, the positive reals, the positive reals plus zero, the negative reals, and the negative reals plus zero...) < 1471997748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the integers minus 0) < 1471997769 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471997778 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whore houses are like disney land for guys. that is where wet dreams come true" < 1471997832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Because the form that the book wants is {x | x=n, n in Z} <-- welcome to "lies to children", i think. < 1471997894 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1471997915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Whore houses are just New Orleans square, thankyouverymuch < 1471997923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yep < 1471997928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean, it's still valid < 1471997937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A computer that could read set-builder notation would get the same answer < 1471997963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't even mathematically a "weird notation"- it's normal notation, it just is doing it the stupid way < 1471997976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the set {x | x in Z} < 1471997980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just say Z < 1471997996 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the "do naturals include 0" question splits even professional mathematics, so don't complain _too_ much about hth < 1471998018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, I think she asked for the set {1, 2, 3...}- expecting it in set-builder- and I just said "N") < 1471998024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good? < 1471998062 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The real issue is that one side has WITH zero as "whole numbers" and WITHOUT as "natural numbers", and the other side has WITH zero as "natural numbers" and WITHOUT zero as "whole numbers" < 1471998066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm in the second camp) < 1471998090 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she even said- like, specifically, writing it out- that the whole numbers (in this case with zero) are written with the double-struck W < 1471998126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is presumably true, but nobody ever really does that in my experience and if you used it without defining it 15% of readers would have no idea what you're talking about < 1471998194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm probably also going to get marked down for replacing variables like t or m- which are stupid variables that you don't use unless you've already used x, y, and z or you're specifically dealing with things like time- with x when there is no other x in this equation) < 1471998223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471998241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471998244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crash* < 1471998278 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she also said that the irrationals are written I, but http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/61269.html claims that I is for the integers (but that Z is also reserved for them, and is more common) < 1471998285 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes hppavilion[1] in the stability bits
< 1471998293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ? < 1471998297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ahoily < 1471998300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just join? < 1471998309 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. no, I was on the phone with the SO. < 1471998318 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471998337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm not sure most professional mathematicians use "whole numbers" at all hth < 1471998342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've been ranting about the common core (or about my precalc teacher, depending on whether the things she's saying are from the common core) < 1471998367 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is common core? < 1471998374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, but I think mathoverflow said that if the naturals include 0 and you want to refer to the numbers without 0, then you say "whole numbers" < 1471998376 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use N^+ and N_0 twh < 1471998397 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally, the obvious translation of "whole number" into norwegian (heltall) means integer, period.) < 1471998406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That works, but I want to abbreviate it xD < 1471998415 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...great < 1471998429 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's a unified standard in the US that is being used to try to fix our failing education system < 1471998435 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because an extra small symbol takes too much space? < 1471998440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hele tall, unless you're composing words < 1471998444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: No, because it clutters < 1471998458 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1471998483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the general view, it's a rule that says what students need to know at the end of the year at minimum (each year has to teach this list of things if the student hasn't already leaned them: {...}) < 1471998524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Having an extra superscript + or subscript 0 makes it look like there's a set N, and that we're referring to a set derived from it < 1471998568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In the more specific case, common core takes a rather feeble and over-practicalized view of education, puts it in a too-strict form, and regiments teachers down to the minute < 1471998601 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So teachers can't slow down and spend an extra few days on something that this class has trouble with or skip over a section everybody already knows < 1471998606 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, we do < 1471998618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ? < 1471998643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: For example, there's an image on the internet of a quiz filled out by a third grader or something < 1471998657 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N^+ = { n | n in N, n > 0 } and N_0 = { 0 } cup N < 1471998665 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], from what i've heard common core is mostly a scapegoat < 1471998671 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :works for both definitions of N < 1471998674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a question asking the student to solve "5*3" using "the addition strategy" (which, presumably, is where you just add stuff up) < 1471998687 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the student did 5+5+5 = 15 < 1471998691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the question was marked wrong < 1471998701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the correct answer being "3+3+3+3+3 = 15" < 1471998706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: See the problem? < 1471998718 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh-huh, that's stupid < 1471998719 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471998735 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it turns out there's more to it than pictures that go around on facebook < 1471998736 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attaches himself to his beloved Canada.
< 1471998744 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah, probably < 1471998765 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's hyperbolic and probably apocryphal, but still. it's *juuuust* so believable... < 1471998770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily < 1471998780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But seriously, even if the rest of the system turns kids into ripped supergeniuses, the fact that something like that happened under it is absurd < 1471998795 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot string together trigrams or longer or shorter? < 1471998796 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mr president, in its wisdom, that decides whether the measures adopted to date with poultry cages and provide for the continuance of the current member states. < 1471998844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think it's so much that the book said that doing 5+5+5 is wrong and 3+3+3+3+3 is right so much as it only listed 3+3+3+3+3, and the people in charge of grading the paper were mathematically illiterate and not qualified to be teaching math < 1471998865 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia < 1471998867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no matter how well your curriculum tells teachers what to teach, if the teacher doesn't get it the class won't work < 1471998938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean a big part of it is that american right-wingers need to feed their 'this country is going to the dogs and we need to go back to the good times' narrative < 1471998972 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so blaming the common core for every problem in the education system is very attractive to them < 1471999013 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 5+5+5 vs. 3+3+3+3+3 thing stems from a reasonable didactic idea that is incredibly stupid when used in a standardised test < 1471999112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : does fungot string together trigrams or longer or shorter? <-- variable length < 1471999113 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: draftsman of the opinion of an institution that has the power and working methods for cooperation in the fields of teaching and culture, to education and the media, which will be granted to the court of first instance. < 1471999138 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: random variable length? or adaptive? < 1471999190 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: IIRC it's a fixed length but the length depends on which ^style is set < 1471999197 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471999235 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the length that counts, it's how many styles fungot has. < 1471999236 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what we'd get running it on the entire google 3-grams dataset. < 1471999236 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, of course, not represented here today for this big debate. perhaps just for once i will also be ready by that time the commission made its own contribution. my colleague, mr liikanen, mrs wallström, to issue instructions. i can illustrate the problem using the example of mr cox understanding what was agreed in cardiff and which now goes ahead in the union already have a staff of only some 30 officials who c < 1471999236 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it's variable. adaptive presumably. < 1471999259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie!!!!! < 1471999278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1471999278 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1471999281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1471999283 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1471999283 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1471999284 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we need a "trump stump speeches" style < 1471999340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"•Nonsense generation based on variable-length ngram models." < 1471999366 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe me. if fungot spoke like Trump, it would be yuuuge! No one else can make fungot sound better. i kid you not. < 1471999367 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mr president, on the resources available under the fisheries agreement between the council and, of course, to be trying to find solutions other than allowing refugees to settle in any part of the negotiations. on the other the programme for community research and the possible insertion of a specific paragraph or chapter in order to do so, we have studied this report and its recognition that the community structures, < 1471999474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49630&oldid=49629 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+181) 10 < 1471999481 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1471999482 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1471999486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAWKER IS FINALLY DEAD! < 1471999490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*WOOHOO* < 1471999525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the best way to view this is: if you have a business model that involves picking on rich people who can afford to hire good lawyers, make very very sure you don't do anything illegal < 1471999552 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yep < 1471999591 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If a judge orders you do do something, you do it. You don't publish an article saying "A judge ordered us to do this, but we're just going to ignore him" < 1471999601 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: huh? the whole gawker network thing? < 1471999631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The main blog has shut down (looks like the website will be staying up, at least for a little while, but there'll be no new content) < 1471999639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Univision published various other properties < 1471999742 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471999755 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471999811 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1472000895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another legitimate-looking edit caught in the filter, and no sign of attempting to follow the new procedure :( < 1472000974 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: people can't read? < 1472000976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i've seen no legitimate _registrations_ yet, so it seems a bit early to declare it a total failure. < 1472001006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: or they cannot be bothered. it requires registering ++, after all. < 1472001045 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, i doubt it's much of a big loss. < 1472001048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not something people do just for correcting a couple typos. < 1472001095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well it remains to be seen if _anyone_ bothers. < 1472001120 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but if they try to do that and fail, won't their failed attempt be recorded and we can fix whatever they were trying to fix for them? < 1472001157 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well sure, we could do that recent edit. int-e did one previously. (i'm not sure if it's actually correct, though.) < 1472001209 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this requires paying much more attention to the abuse filter log than i've previously done, anyhow. < 1472001224 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i'm not promising to keep doing it.) < 1472001237 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone see it? < 1472001254 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/6629 < 1472001293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least int-e could, and he's not an admin. < 1472001450 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472001525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1472001769 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how "denier", traditionally a measure of the fineness of silk or rayon, is now more commonly used (and mispronounced) as "one who denies" < 1472001797 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to imagine that holocaust denier is a way to measure the fineness of a holocaust < 1472002177 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 'deni-er' versus 'dín(a|e)r' < 1472002277 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not familiar with this particular phonetic notation system < 1472002332 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess (a|e) is some way to represent æ as a more drawn-out diphthong? < 1472002365 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about mispronunciations < 1472002403 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone is saying de-nye-er about tights there are no mispronunciations involved < 1472002710 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: nope it is just that you could have eather a or e there < 1472002722 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit like regexp notation < 1472002775 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: something similar happened in german to auspowern < 1472002781 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i could have said "pronounced using a different modernly-invented pronunciation that mayn't even be standard yet" but that would be somewhat wordy < 1472002830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: look at Phantom_Hoover's pronunciation guide. it makes a lot more sense than yours < 1472002908 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :auspowern used to come from the french pauvre and shifted towars the english power < 1472003936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am back in YYZ finally! < 1472003947 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar cyyz < 1472003948 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 240000Z 22012KT 15SM SCT120 BKN250 25/14 A3020 RMK AC4CI1 SLP227 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1472003953 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\! < 1472003961 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RIDGE CHICKEN < 1472003968 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472003974 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh i thought you meant the rush song < 1472004228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, here's a way to make your musical notation horrifying < 1472004237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a normal half note ("minim") < 1472004244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And add a tail to the stem < 1472004336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball is my suspicion right? < 1472004337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better not tell you now. < 1472004341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1472004352 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472004442 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: That would probably be parsed as an unusual way of writing a quarter note. < 1472004455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, that's what I thought < 1472004467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But also include quarter notes so that people are unsure < 1472004483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe occasionally have notes with the flag on the other side, or mirror the note entirely < 1472004496 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bindun < 1472004512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whole and half rests have a terrible notation) < 1472004516 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472004538 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a few other novelties you could use, such as the flagged longa. :) < 1472004593 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no need to obfuscate. you should always strive to make your musical notation as clear and concise as possible. for instance, look how simple and readable that is: https://prestonparish.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/last.gif < 1472004634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The point of this is that it's obfuscated, to make the sheet music as intimidating and horrifying as possible < 1472004650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a whole note, but filled in like a quarter note's head < 1472004669 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The further along that gets, the less valid and playable it gets. < 1472004705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...does that music require that I take square roots? < 1472004708 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that last note is wonderful < 1472004711 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts looking like it's just written for robots or something, and goes all the way into nonsense. < 1472004711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seeing some square roots in there < 1472004741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the "filled in head" isn't usually parsed as "make it half the length" the way a flag is due to filling in being non-repeatable, it'd take a bit to figure it out) < 1472004746 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472004750 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a former bass player, i can also identify strongly with the 437 measures of rest < 1472004758 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1472004769 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a former bass singer, I too identify with it. < 1472004771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How would a note with only half of the notehead filled in be parsed? >:) < 1472004783 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: A punch to the head. < 1472004797 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Of the composer, I should say. < 1472004800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: We'll assume that I'm long dead because I wrote classical music < 1472004823 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will be debates in academia about how it was intended to be played for ages. < 1472004833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Excellent, excellent < 1472004877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll forge a piece of classical music (attribute it to a false (but plausible) composer so it isn't too illegal) and fill it with stuff like this < 1472004901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a couple historical documents from other sources claiming it's "perhaps the most beautiful piece ever written" and such < 1472005047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, how does one write "a chord, but in which some of the notes in it are held for longer than others" in normal notation? I'm certain that there's a simple, generally-accepted way that has been used for centuries because it seems like a pretty simple thing, but I can't remember since it's been years since I picked up a piano) < 1472005088 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. botanicsage just mashed up bowsers castle theme from smw with interior crocodile alligator :D < 1472005198 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Write two chords, one with and then one without the notes, and use a tie to connect them. < 1472005210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, yes < 1472005230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is the interpretation if you have a chord in which some noteheads are filled and others aren't? Probably something similar) < 1472005246 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the filled noteheads end a beat before the unfilled ones, almost certainly) < 1472005252 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that would be conventional, but that'd be the likely interpretation. < 1472005679 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472005728 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472005739 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that would usually only be used when there are multiple distinguishable voices/parts (e.g. right-hand/left-hand) < 1472005752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1472005760 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if there is a chord played entirely by the left hand, multiple note values in the same chord would be obfuscatory, and so it would be done using ties < 1472005764 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: Nah, it's definitely possible < 1472005776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472005776 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if there is a left hand chord and a right hand melody, it's ok to have totally different note values < 1472005788 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh it's certainly possible, just confusing to the player and so is generally avoided < 1472005873 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: Is it possible to make software that reliably plays relatively real-sounding music given a file that describes the music as a sort of electronic sheet music (probably some sort XML or JSON, but anything would work)? < 1472005926 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would probably want a MIDI file < 1472005928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably designed for music composition so you don't have to, y'know, find an entire orchestra to play it at the drop of a hat to make sure it sounds right) < 1472005941 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: That's what I figure < 1472005943 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's software of varying qualities < 1472005954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: But I seem to remember MIDI not being exactly what I was going for < 1472005958 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get something like Kontakt < 1472005975 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has pretty high quality sample libraries for various real pianos < 1472005989 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, looks about right < 1472005993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK... < 1472006006 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "real-sounding" would require stuff like dynamics, interpretation, performance, which would not be contained in the sheet music and kind of depends on a human being there either to record the performance or to tweak all the notes < 1472006017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, of course < 1472006033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are there any editors that use either something that looks approximately like real musical notation (WYSIWYGily) or a relatively easy DSL? < 1472006039 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you COULD write a program to fake all that stuff in a way that a good pianist would be able to tell was nonsense but could probably trick most people < 1472006042 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That generate MIDI < 1472006047 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm! sibelius and finale < 1472006048 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1472006049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, of course < 1472006102 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: LilyPond is what sent me on this track, and it's been compared to Sibelius and Finale as being about the same, but LilyPond, AFAICT, doesn't play the music; just makes the sheet out of LaTeX < 1472006402 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472006421 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! cool < 1472006479 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472006508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: Also, LilyPond is FOSS < 1472006528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It looks like LilyPond is extensible, so someone is bound to have made a synthesizer by now) < 1472006543 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1472006558 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it can generate midi! < 1472006578 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not take it I don't think... < 1472006819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472006942 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: I don't need it to accept MIDI < 1472006946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: Also, LilyPond can? < 1472006957 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yeah says in the documentation < 1472007684 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472007781 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472008310 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472008825 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472009396 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1472009952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472011387 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472012229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AmigaMML is another program you can write music with, although it cannot output MIDI files. You can include dynamics and other stuff though, and does not require Amiga computer to be use < 1472012281 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that XML is pretty bad for stuff that isn't markup-text < 1472016275 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472018975 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472021430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472021745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1472021753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New idea for irony punctuation: Escaping < 1472021779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Where could you have possibly gotten that idea?": Normal; "Where could you have possibly gotten that idea\?": Sarcastic < 1472022266 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472022280 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472023578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe_Protection_Society is funny < 1472023608 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is not clear in what sense the APS is a society, or how many members it has (if any), or from where it claims authority for its views. John Richards has never published a constitution, a list of members, or the criteria (if any) for membership. It is not known in what sense he is the chairman, how he was elected or appointed, or how he might be removed." < 1472023821 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472024300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, inanimate whose is one of the little holes in English that, once you notice it, you can't close it < 1472024315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people use "of which", but others (including me) think it sounds overly formal < 1472024324 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally use something sort of like "which's" < 1472024347 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not quite; there's no glottal stop so it's more like... "whichs" < 1472024371 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``huh'' < 1472024372 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `huh'': not found < 1472024381 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, grow up < 1472024436 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1472024450 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does #esoteric think about the inanimate whose? < 1472024844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1472024862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just reverted a vandalized Wikipedia page to an unvandalized revision! < 1472025483 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-imqzrkgopjgjofyz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472025866 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472025889 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472026020 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472026027 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zmatrgsrkjuskytt JOIN :#esoteric < 1472027768 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472027784 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Some of the styles have a fixed length, but the majority are based on variable-length models trained with https://github.com/vsiivola/variKN < 1472027784 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472027791 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: As above. ^ < 1472028256 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to gmane? < 1472028339 0 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472028364 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472028474 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zmatrgsrkjuskytt QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472028511 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472028935 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tyynixguljkdexpf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472029264 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1472029375 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472029471 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472029499 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472029825 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I tend to anthropomorphise inanimate objects to some extent anyway, inanimate whose doesn't bug me at all < 1472029992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472030433 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tyynixguljkdexpf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472030454 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472030914 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yztfjkipbnklsfmt JOIN :#esoteric < 1472030936 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1472031088 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472031541 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yztfjkipbnklsfmt QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472031808 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nfnwgyujzbogfiwr JOIN :#esoteric < 1472032016 0 :Tefaj!?@? NICK :Jafet < 1472035987 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472036055 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472036755 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't anthropomorphise ____, they *hate* that!" < 1472037903 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: don't you hate being anthropomorphised?' < 1472037921 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "look at zgrep, he looks almost human!" ) < 1472037931 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION beeps
< 1472037979 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so annoying being mistaken for something that has human qualities. < 1472038047 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is such a tool, found in every computer, essentially being gzip -d | grep
< 1472038076 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( zcat | grep ) < 1472038083 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeppers. < 1472038085 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. z Z meeeeow < 1472038111 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I wonder why int-e doesn't use a CTCP action. )
< 1472038132 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( . o O ( . o O ( ... ) ) )
< 1472038138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zless is perhaps the program in that family that I use most often. < 1472038144 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cogito ergo cogito. < 1472038171 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't actually use any of the z* commands... ._.
< 1472038179 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrep: because in the context where I developed the habit (some MUD), the output would've looked like this: [int-e . o O ( foo )] < 1472038188 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1472038189 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not an alias. < 1472038224 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Programs with aliases, they're hiding from someone, they must be criminals! )
< 1472038231 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Or spies! )
< 1472038235 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1472038339 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :`speedtest < 1472038340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: speedtest: not found < 1472038344 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, fast. < 1472038362 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo has sped up? < 1472038424 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472038488 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472038490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :applicative functor//Applicative functors are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1472038502 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1472038522 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1472038525 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1472038535 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1472038536 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1472038613 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zgrep Hello. < 1472038613 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1472038618 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I can't! < 1472038649 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot Hello. < 1472038650 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1472038654 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1472038664 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell thispersondoesnotexistyet Hello. < 1472038664 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472038868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello, zgrellop. < 1472038895 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472038913 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION boils boily as a greeting
< 1472038996 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome AlexR42 < 1472038998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07AlexR42: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.) < 1472039098 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472039788 0 :AlexR42!~textual@94.41.141.175 QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1472040144 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the scrollback again, about crazy sheets of five-line musical staff notation maybe parodies or maybe obfuscated stuff at https://prestonparish.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/viral-sheet-music-the-creative-notation-of-john-stump-and-others/ < 1472040373 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and about fungot) < 1472041597 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOÔOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! < 1472041948 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CARVEN CHICKEN < 1472044357 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472046739 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472046935 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472047495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472047827 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472047885 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472048067 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472048613 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472049116 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CC0 license is surprisingly bloated < 1472049122 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode < 1472049369 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472050050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's not so surprising when you think about how it's trying to work in jurisdictions whose laws are actively hostile to the idea of relinquishing author rights. < 1472051391 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "hostile" < 1472051441 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds so negative, but it is oddly approproate. < 1472051813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] Ugh, inanimate whose is one of the little holes in English that, once you notice it, you can't close it <-- wiktionary says _formerly proscribed_ < 1472051814 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472051956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the corresponding norwegian pronoun is archaic. no idea if it was proscribed for inanimates.
< 1472053337 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which pronoun, "min"? < 1472053875 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how one would generate nonsense from a variable length language model. how do you know how far back to read? < 1472053971 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: "hvis" < 1472053992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not be _entirely_ archaic, but definitely excessively formal. < 1472054027 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hvis is an inanimate relative possessive pronoun? < 1472054041 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1472054050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm pretty sure those variable length models involved PhDs hth < 1472054084 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: really? < 1472054110 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's a pretty sure hunch < 1472054111 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still feel like i should be able to understand it < 1472054118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NERD < 1472054145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+hth < 1472054169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i assume there's a cutoff formula or algorithm. < 1472054281 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't oerjan an expert in knowing how far back to read? < 1472054405 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472054526 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1472054633 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: As far back as you have matching context in the model, with a probability based on the backoff weight of using a shorter context sometimes. < 1472054728 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does the model generator decide what length contexts to include? < 1472054766 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: https://sites.google.com/site/vesassiivola/publications/TASLP2007.pdf < 1472054921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you there was a PhD. < 1472054988 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a more approachable overview in chapter 3 of https://sites.google.com/site/vesassiivola/publications/is2007less.pdf < 1472055155 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah that paper goves me a decent idea even if i dont know what kneser-ney smoothing is. pretty clever. < 1472055171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( tool assisted speed linguistic programming ) < 1472055191 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you may be reading a tad too fast < 1472055204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you're assuming i'm actually reading? < 1472055209 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes! < 1472055229 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's something that empirically, you are often doing < 1472055236 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1472055260 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm often making assumptions < 1472055267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? < 1472055272 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nobody should be surprised. < 1472055295 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant be sure oerjan isnt just skimming, reading only a word here or there and making up the parts in between < 1472055296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sure, can you provide evidence to the contrary? < 1472055341 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is_mega_non_overlapping ) < 1472055351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in fact the only part of that link i read was the picture captions at the end, and only to check i wasn't lying hth < 1472055383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i checked afterwards, of course) < 1472055573 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm sure TASPL would be a thing if fizzie and ais523 would just cooperate on it. < 1472055683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*LP < 1472055761 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact I learned the other day: Subversion respects an environment variable called SVN_I_LOVE_CORRUPTED_WORKING_COPIES_SO_DISABLE_SLEEP_FOR_TIMESTAMPS, which you can set to "yes" to disable a wait it does in many places to ensure filesystem timestamps have changed. < 1472055806 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds helpful. < 1472055820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472055821 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :california//California is pronounced "Caliphate-ornery-I-A" < 1472055827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it _is_ fast < 1472055863 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's amazing < 1472055925 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's something the test suite uses to make the tests not take so long. < 1472056076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's three other similarly named knobs; SVN_I_LOVE_CORRUPTED_WORKING_COPIES_SO_DISABLE_RELOCATE_VALIDATION, SVN_I_LIKE_LATENCY_SO_IGNORE_HTTPV2 and SVN_I_LOVE_PANGALACTIC_GARGLE_BLASTERS. < 1472056144 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the last one is set and the file revision number is 42, it prints a humorous message as part of the commit message.) < 1472056255 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472056909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, svn uses HTTP? < 1472056922 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not FTP? < 1472057017 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it can use http or use its own protocol < 1472057686 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, they are apparently making progress toward shutting down the quickbooks dude < 1472057790 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@meszages-louh < 1472057791 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1472057810 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar cyyz < 1472057810 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 241500Z 18007KT 140V200 15SM FEW030 BKN250 25/17 A3016 RMK CU2CI3 SLP212 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1472058087 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the quickbooks dudes seem to have stopped attacking our wiki for now, at least. < 1472058129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the new filter is catching several other kinds of spam, though.) < 1472058143 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean that the telephone company is shutting down their fraudulent help line < 1472058152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i figured < 1472058172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i assume they would have no reason to spam a phone number that isn't working. < 1472058185 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1472058332 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472058394 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472058661 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1472059052 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tgieoedzxgzsxbsa QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1472061036 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472061483 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472061660 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472061889 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472062895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472062945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegian < 1472062946 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472062950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegians < 1472062951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wegians? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472062963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1472062963 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 5m 49s ago: Ugh, inanimate whose is one of the little holes in English that, once you notice it, you can't close it <-- wiktionary says _formerly proscribed_ < 1472063129 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nandwegian < 1472063130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nandwegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472063298 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends has been trying to get an FTP server to connect to irc < 1472063491 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: via getting it to upload a file to Freenode that has IRC-like lines at the start? < 1472063510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC many IRC servers have been modified to close the connection if they see anything that looks like it's part of the wrong protocol < 1472063515 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure of the specifics < 1472063546 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He could set a nick but freenode makes you wait until a 001 before you can join a channel < 1472063547 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to things like the web-based worm we had a while back (basically it posted links to a web page, and if you visited that web page, you'd spam the link into other channels because it convinced your browser to connect to an IRC server) < 1472063576 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like another sort of fix to the same problem < 1472063984 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472064214 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.neutrino: points -4.74, score 26.58, rank 2/47 < 1472064239 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqykwtkqrnnqqnvv PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode < 1472064240 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0020 SPACE] < 1472064269 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, is someone jousting beind our back? :-D < 1472064527 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.neutrino: points -4.57, score 26.68, rank 2/47 (--) < 1472064567 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472064658 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472064691 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472065148 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5591:b8b:c2f3:112c JOIN :#esoteric < 1472065153 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472065213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472065216 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: '&&' within '||' < 1472065265 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not warning: '*' within '+' < 1472065287 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: '-' within '==' < 1472065379 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472065413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did the wegian wisdom go? < 1472065419 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:5591:b8b:c2f3:112c QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472065461 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegian < 1472065462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472065466 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? norwegian < 1472065467 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472065470 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? norway < 1472065470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway is the suburb capital of Sweden. It's where the Nobel Peace Prize is announced. < 1472065486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifthenwegian? < 1472065501 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? warning < 1472065501 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472065531 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wegian wisdom/* < 1472065537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/icbm: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/fternooner:fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. \ wisdom/gasp < 1472065553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dammit < 1472065566 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wegian -r wisdom < 1472065567 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gaspasjo:gaspasjo is a norwegian soup, which died out due to a lack of hot summer days \ wisdom/fternooner:fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. \ wisdom/møøse:Møøse is Norwegian for moss. \ wisdom/lexer:lexer is a maximally Norwegian painter. Its squares < 1472065590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wegian -r wisdom > temp/wegians < 1472065590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: temp/wegians: No such file or directory < 1472065599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wegian -r wisdom > shr/wegians < 1472065599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: shr/wegians: No such file or directory < 1472065603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1472065604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1472065606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Warnings indicate whn you are doing something dangerous, like using operator precedence. < 1472065608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'warning': Warnings indicate whn you are doing something dangerous, like using operator precedence. < 1472065618 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Warnings indicate when you are doing something dangerous, like using operator precedence. < 1472065618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wegian -r wisdom > tmp/wegians < 1472065620 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472065622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'warning': Warnings indicate when you are doing something dangerous, like using operator precedence. < 1472065630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url tmp/wegians < 1472065630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :File is outside web-viewable filesystem repository. < 1472065643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap... < 1472065646 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1472065647 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1472065651 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: use paste < 1472065657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ty < 1472065672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep wegian -r wisdom | paste < 1472065676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.2574 < 1472065754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1472065756 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wegian': A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1472065788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: -_- < 1472065794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Soletur1970 5* 10New user account < 1472065909 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.neutrino: points 0.67, score 32.21, rank 2/47 (--) < 1472065910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:Soletur197010]] with an expiry time of 2 decades, 4 years, 4 hours, 19 minutes and 12 seconds (account creation disabled): Quickbooks spammer < 1472065970 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472065994 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Roxxik < 1472065995 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Roxxik: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1472066196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered Google News < 1472066202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I tell it to never give me Fox? < 1472066239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472066241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible < 1472066243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1472066279 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: try using a custom adblock to remove the links < 1472066463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also recommend removing the wall street journal (paywall), breitbart and the new york observer (propaganda), vox and the huffington post (propaganda), < 1472066465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, no it isn't < 1472066467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible now < 1472066493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472066530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you can adjust frequencies < 1472066534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't block Fox entirely < 1472066539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just set it to "rarely" < 1472066565 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I usually read < 1472066578 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothin < 1472066579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: What are the good news sources? < 1472066596 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: At this point, twitter and reddit, probably < 1472066620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah, probably < 1472066628 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackernews? < 1472066632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit: The only news site where you can block bullshit < 1472066668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll add the BBC < 1472066721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I also read the Register < 1472066740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's only tech news < 1472066763 0 :bojidar_bg!~bojidar_b@46-10-78-58.ip.btc-net.bg JOIN :#esoteric < 1472066830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, got to block the Christian Science Monitor < 1472066874 0 :bojidar_bg!~bojidar_b@46-10-78-58.ip.btc-net.bg PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read http://esolangs.org/wiki/Feather -- I think this is (easy, really easily) "doable" in JavaScript via Object.create and prototypes. Basically, in JS each Object has a prototype, and if it lacks a property, it would lookup the prototype. (Or am I missing something?) < 1472066914 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, North Korea launched an ICBM < 1472066920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Landed in the Sea of Japan < 1472067022 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italy had an earthquake with at least 120 dead < 1472067197 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472068161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472068200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472068744 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.neutrino: points 5.79, score 37.75, rank 2/47 (--) < 1472068757 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1472068768 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back david catt < 1472068852 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :beating kiseki is now the easiest way to get to the top of the chart < 1472068934 0 :Roxxik!b91df2b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.29.242.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472069323 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1472069367 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice job < 1472069407 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, although I'm not sure how much of that score is because of kiseki... < 1472069449 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost all of it < 1472069461 0 :bojidar_bg!~bojidar_b@46-10-78-58.ip.btc-net.bg PART #esoteric :"Uh!" < 1472069543 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if lymia is feeling flippant, they can just rerun the program with neutrino included and get back the same score they had to begin with < 1472069667 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1472069713 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before kiseki it had been a while since a program beat every other program. The last time I remember that happening was a couple of years ago. < 1472069777 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :space_hotel did once, but not on every tape length and polarity < 1472069793 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i think you have now qualified as the new deewiant. < 1472069807 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49631&oldid=49163 5* 03Mychal 5* (+413) 10Added Io implementation < 1472069974 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to relatively small programs? < 1472070157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-66.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472070870 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest beatskiseki (>[+]+)*-1 < 1472070870 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.beatskiseki: points -19.69, score 10.75, rank 28/47 < 1472070938 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1472070945 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest beatskiseki >+(>[+])*-1 < 1472070946 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.beatskiseki: points -17.19, score 16.50, rank 13/47 < 1472071337 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1472072523 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472072610 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472072927 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472073040 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472073391 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1472073528 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38e6:4720:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472073534 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472073712 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest neutrino >(+)*15(>--)*3(>[>>>((>[-[++[(+)*6[-][+]+>+{}]]]+)%-1)*-1])*16(>[(-)*14[+][-]])*8>(-)*127([[-][+]])*-1 < 1472073712 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat.neutrino: points 2.43, score 30.72, rank 2/47 (--) < 1472073804 0 :david_werecat!~chatzilla@KNTAON1614W-LP130-03-2925463412.dsl.bell.ca PART #esoteric : < 1472074184 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38e6:4720:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472074953 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472075331 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Yeah, I have a feeling BF Joust activity is too sporadic for the monthly code-secret-until-over competition idea to work super well. < 1472075444 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472075541 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IIRC many IRC servers have been modified to close the connection if they see anything that looks like it's part of the wrong protocol" => yes, but more importantly, many irc servers (but not the one on freenode) require you to pong a ping whose body has a random string before you can do anything, to stop blind attacks that don't read what the serv < 1472075541 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er says. < 1472075664 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472076862 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472077387 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472077481 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472078137 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472078210 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472079278 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472079863 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472080851 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472080961 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes \oren\ in the Torontonian bits
< 1472081060 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1472081094 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did rush name a song after an aeroport? < 1472081103 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia! because YYZ! < 1472081119 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why yyz, au fait? ) < 1472081134 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1472081137 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1472081193 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do? < 1472081225 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about eating. < 1472081232 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I should be eating. ) < 1472081273 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472081283 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never chat while you eat < 1472081295 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why bother logging on? < 1472081387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always logged on < 1472081394 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially. < 1472081404 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like seeing what's happening :) < 1472081461 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat uploaded some new entries. thats all. < 1472081519 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472081522 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the happening doesn't happen much, eh? < 1472081527 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1472081528 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 242152Z 14003KT 10SM FEW008 SCT110 BKN200 BKN250 26/23 A3022 RMK AO2 SLP223 T02560228 $ < 1472081531 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1472081531 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 242200Z 22009G21KT 30SM FEW180 SCT240 28/18 A3003 RMK AC1CI3 SLP171 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1472081548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472081551 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was cloudy < 1472081587 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472081608 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit rainy maybe also < 1472081608 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Call of CYUL < 1472081636 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I keep thinking that) < 1472081638 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1472081639 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 242220Z AUTO 24003KT 210V270 9999 NCD 17/14 Q1024 < 1472081758 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. call of cyul? < 1472081805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nofroily. hintopia. < 1472081816 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL is always swimming but it always swims Left < 1472081874 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYB < 1472081874 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYB 242200Z 17006KT 15SM -SHRA SCT044 OVC060 21/17 A2995 RMK SC3SC5 CVCTV CLD EMBD SLP142 DENSITY ALT 2200FT < 1472081901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there never much temperature difference between here and north bay < 1472081924 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :north bay is like 7 hours driving north from here < 1472081936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1472081937 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 242200Z 20012G18KT 15SM FEW130 SCT150 BKN220 29/14 A3001 RMK AC1AC2CI3 SLP163 DENSITY ALT 2100FT < 1472081970 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great today it's actually colder in Toronto. I don't understand waether < 1472082028 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole of Ontario can be reduced to a single point hth < 1472082040 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :waether < 1472082051 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wa(e)t(h)er < 1472082175 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dOnt undRstand weTR < 1472082200 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should that be weDR < 1472082215 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probly < 1472082328 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｳｴｻﾞｰ < 1472082336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how do you spell "core" < 1472082366 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cor < 1472082383 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1472082384 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 242153Z 29012KT 10SM FEW010 20/13 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP173 T02000128 < 1472082393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1472082393 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 242220Z 13006KT 9999 VCSH SCT045 BKN065 12/12 Q1017 RMK WIND 670FT 17007KT < 1472082409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :autumn is a-coming < 1472082436 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otM iz a cumiG < 1472082477 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472082520 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically, one could mark letters with thingies on top of them but I don't knwo how to type those thingies < 1472082521 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472082539 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my proposal uses capital letters, klingon-style < 1472082587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tlhIngan < 1472082619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472082627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what? < 1472082640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sick of confusion around square root < 1472082658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From now on, there is no such thing as "the square root" of a number (or really any nth root) < 1472082671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only numbers which are "a square root" of it < 1472082719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` grep wegian -r wisdom > temp/wegians <-- we have | paste for this hth < 1472082729 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you just want the principle root, you have to specify that, but you also have to define what differentiates between a principle and nonprinciple root < 1472082734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was told < 1472082739 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And I did < 1472082744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1472082753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: \oren\ told me < 1472082776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "the square root" is positive by definition hth < 1472082787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sqrt(-1) < 1472082799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i is "the" square root of -1 < 1472082807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1472082817 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: itym principal hth < 1472082825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ityr < 1472082861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the principal of the thing. < 1472082901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In my Algebra II class last year, when finding the zeros of a quadratic we used any root, but she also said that the equation y = sqrt(x) is a function because only the positive part of the results are true; though, to be fair, we did at least use ± on the former) < 1472082980 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditionally the principal root is the one with smallest argument < 1472083012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: smallest argument? < 1472083038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is that mathspeak or just "the one that the least people complain about"? < 1472083057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathspeak hth < 1472083072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the angle of a complex number, in radians < 1472083083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472083111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Maybe we should require that new users make themselves a userpage, and that an administrator read it and think "yeah, looks pretty legit" before approving them < 1472083139 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that doesn't work because there's been a lot of spammers that _do_ make their own userpages < 1472083145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(auto-approval happens after a week or so, admins can disapprove before then) < 1472083169 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because other wikis have such a policy, or something. < 1472083179 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They'll probably look pretty formulaic and 2^n-assed (for natural n >=2) < 1472083213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway, we have such a system now, it's just a different page. < 1472083221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1472083257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a quickbooks spammer in the aubse log < 1472083294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even better, we could make a user's first couple of edits non-binding (administrators must approve them), but the user isn't informed (while logged in, they see their edits as if they had gone through)) < 1472083319 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But that'd probably require someone to create an entirely new MediaWiki plugin) < 1472083322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you didn't give em time to introduce emself ;P < 1472083359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have been hilarious if that was the first user to manage the process < 1472083414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey since when does ais523 idle :( < 1472083428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, were their edits after account creation purged from Recent Changes, or was it just assumed they're a spammer because no introduction was created within 2 minutes?) < 1472083431 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No idea < 1472083463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it won't require an entirely new mediawiki plugin because there's already an approved version feature. < 1472083472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm beginning to feel like the wiki is becoming a game of Papers, Please < 1472083476 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1472083495 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I decided to idle more < 1472083500 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it will probably either show up in HackEgo announcements, or make them useless... < 1472083501 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been idle in my idling recently < 1472083505 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1472083507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, for a while I idled but not in #esoteric) < 1472083565 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pending changes doesn't stop spam < 1472083574 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hides spam from public view but it still forces admins to go and clean the spam up manually < 1472083577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( What we really need is a decoy esolangs.org that's unrelated to the REAL esolangs.org )
< 1472083648 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should just ban the word 'quickbooks' from ever appearing on the wiki... < 1472083653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it wasn't purged, and you can see that (except for completely deleted pages) with the Show bots option < 1472083692 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how about we get in touch with these spammers and offer to let them by ad-space? they could put a banner up "want to participate in a sort tech support scam for fun and (our) profit?" < 1472083698 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy < 1472083709 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :short < 1472083918 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b9:75ba:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472083920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits wegian < 1472083921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] shachaf shachaf shachaf < 1472083941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472083942 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`howg wegian < 1472083943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ learn A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). \ rm wisdom/wegian \ sedlast s/member/regular/ \ learn A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric members. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) < 1472083954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You removed it for some reason. < 1472083958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was scow. < 1472083968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was hilarious < 1472084135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? member < 1472084136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. < 1472084353 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was funny < 1472084390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at the logs and thinks bojidar_bg must have been missing something.
< 1472084412 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also esoteric has the best members. they're yuuuuge! < 1472084431 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wegian < 1472084432 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). < 1472084440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to look up this yuge meme
< 1472084441 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1472084632 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Trump reference < 1472084640 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the US presidential candidate < 1472084643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also bernie, it seems < 1472084680 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, if someone says "yuge" out of context the sentence it's in is almost certainly intended to be attributed to Trump (and the word is used to make people read the rest of the sentence in Trump's voice) < 1472084709 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1472084741 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people suddenly not refer to politicians by their last names anymore < 1472084751 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to talk about huge members < 1472084764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, bojidar_bg was speaking about feather hth < 1472084771 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472084772 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1472084795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he may not have understood the rewinding time semantics. < 1472084864 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dill pickles: garlicky or no? < 1472084871 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is feather going to be still alive yet now? < 1472084880 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GARLIC. ALWAYS. < 1472084892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it wioll haven been. < 1472084923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*be < 1472084929 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It depends on the politician < 1472084931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid grammar. < 1472084942 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pickle opinion? < 1472084955 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't really have a relationship to dill, sorry < 1472084975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some are referred to by their full name, some by their last name, some by saying the letters in their initials, and at least one by just his middle initial < 1472084995 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should. < 1472084999 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should. < 1472084999 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan for president < 1472085008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that norwegian politicians have been first-named for decades.
< 1472085008 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: pickle opinion? < 1472085028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not consistently. < 1472085056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: PICKLES ARE VERY GOOD AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM AT ALL I LOVE THEM AND THEY DON'T HAVE A GUN TO MY HEAD < 1472085079 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who is this "full name" politician of which you speak? < 1472085086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Most old ones < 1472085088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Does Harald V even have a last name? < 1472085095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seems to have stopped reading norwegian news
< 1472085106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :George Washington is usually called "George Washington", at least much more commonly than just "Washington" < 1472085107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think so. < 1472085118 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nah. those were either last name or nickname < 1472085165 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you left off nickname and spelling initials of nickname from your list < 1472085166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What do people call George Washington if not that? < 1472085178 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :washington < 1472085189 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's less common than "George Washington" < 1472085225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Bill Clinton" and "Teddy Roosevelt" (we count "Teddy" as his first name. Don't question it.) < 1472085237 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe now, but back then "general washington" or "president washington" or even "mr washington" was more common < 1472085240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Andrew Jackson" < 1472085241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1472085244 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1472085263 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always just say jackson for andy jackson < 1472085311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know until recently that Benjamin Harrison was the grandson of William Harrison. < 1472085316 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other two are just fullnames to distinguish them from others with the same name < 1472085319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i grandharrison < 1472085342 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tippecanoe the 2nd < 1472085359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "IIRC many IRC servers have been modified to close the connection if they see anything that looks like it's part of the wrong protocol" => yes, but more importantly, many irc servers (but not the one on freenode) require you to pong a ping whose body has a random string before you can do anything, to stop blind attacks that don't read what < 1472085359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the server says. < 1472085378 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bill clinton is just slick willy < 1472085409 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are even so helpful as to send you a notice after a few seconds if your client doesn't automatically pong so that you can pong manually. < 1472085420 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or at least, some servers are.) < 1472085436 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen this on multiple networks. < 1472085438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pøng < 1472085438 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472085458 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have to remember how ø is pronounced again < 1472085462 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it more like ö or like aw? < 1472085465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it's one or the other < 1472085502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was ö < 1472085509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: According to the guy at Epcot, it's something like "oo-i" (short i sound) < 1472085519 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that's its name < 1472085546 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's fairly close to ö, if you remove the i (but keep the transition between the oo and the i) < 1472085550 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's like ö. It's really the same as ö only the Norwegians use a same spelling for it. They also use æ instead of ä. < 1472085564 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do they use œ for anything? < 1472085572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's the French < 1472085577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, yes, that's probably what it is < 1472085609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ø is not a diphthong hth < 1472085631 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diphthongs are mostly an English thing I think < 1472085651 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're often comparable to vowels in other languages if you just take the transition and leave out the vowel at either side < 1472085651 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like swedish ö, which is like german ö but with more protruded lips. < 1472085674 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1472085737 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the problem with taking English vowels as a base for _anything_ is that their actual pronunciations are so much varied by dialect < 1472085746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's å which is like aw hth < 1472085752 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: that's a good point < 1472085753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah right < 1472085778 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: however, there are some relatively standardised pronunciations (such as the ones that are used on national BBC shows when they're trying to be understandable) < 1472085802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose maybe you could still use them if you are, like, native English and are familiar with lots of dialects on four continents, so that you can say something is like this vowel as pronounced by people in this obscure Indian town where somehow everyone happens to have the same dialect. < 1472085826 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly won't work for me, because I'm very bad at English pronunciation, and certainly can't pronounce vowels properly according to any dialect. < 1472085868 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I probably don't even recognize them properly unless I really pay attention, because I have no idea which word is supposed to have which of the three o vowels. < 1472085881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: norwegian has diphthongs too, but they're written as two vowels. < 1472085907 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in English sometimes we write them as two vowels, and sometimes we don't! < 1472085922 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes the second vowel is an e later in the word < 1472085935 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you have to magically teleport back to the vowel it modifies < 1472085941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes an e really is just an e < 1472085998 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but the problem isn't those two vowels. I can't distinguish the two long ones (the "note" vowel from the "caught" vowel) and those aren't the two that many dialects unify < 1472086013 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the nationalities (in demonym form) of all #esoteric regulars? < 1472086022 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I can't distinguish them unless I pay attention, I unify them in my mind, which is why I don't remember which word has which one < 1472086035 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: we have like five different long vowels in most of the less vowelmergy dialects < 1472086045 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and in the most vowelmergy dialects it's best just to figure out the word from the consonants) < 1472086057 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: many are Norwegian or British < 1472086065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes < 1472086093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: english, scottish, norwegian, finnish, swedish, hungarian, polish, french, canadian, austrian, german < 1472086106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "note" and "caught" are pretty different, though, at least in the relatively neutral accent I have (my parents are from different parts of the country so their accents sort-of averaged out) < 1472086120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :south korean, belgian < 1472086123 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I can imagine that there are accents where they both make an "oi" sound though < 1472086129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(flemish iirc) < 1472086146 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they are different, yes. "note" has the diphtong, "caught" has the plain long closed o < 1472086153 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :american of course < 1472086157 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'd more likely interpret "noite" as "night" rather than "note" < 1472086169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So other #esoteric equivalence classes include an and ish, I guess? < 1472086172 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472086176 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well "caught" is an aw, "note" is an oe < 1472086186 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are normally considered pretty different as vowels go < 1472086199 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that diphtong (unlike the "bite" and "make" dipthong) is such a crazy alien thing for my Hungarian ears that I just mentally transform it to a plain long o < 1472086204 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the vowel in "caught" is also often spelled or < 1472086211 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that they both are types of o < 1472086216 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think of them like that < 1472086237 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I undipthongise an oe it becomes more like a ur < 1472086240 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's the caught/cot difference pre-merger again? < 1472086251 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "there" diphtong is also alien, but I mentally transform it to a long OPEN e, so I don't confuse it with any other English vowel < 1472086273 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "o" in cot is a short vowel and can't easily be extended < 1472086277 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your voice cracks up if you try < 1472086280 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472086294 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some dialects have been extending it into an or, much like in caught; that's the merger) < 1472086315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: air is pretty rare as vowels go < 1472086320 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I somehow managed it twice in a sentence by mistake < 1472086321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dependent on what you mean by regular, i can include indian, dutch. oh and i forgot italian. < 1472086339 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly because I was thinking about it and subconciously chose words that used it < 1472086364 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what the spelling that actually starts with e rather than a is < 1472086366 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe eyr < 1472086367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be an israeli which isn't also american, i'm not quite sure. < 1472086373 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's actually a tripthong, though < 1472086378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than a dipthong < 1472086394 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: basically, the "bite", "make", "now" diphtongs map to what you can get in Hungarian from semivowels, spelled as "áj", "éj", "au" (the latter only when pronounced as one syllable) which occur in actual words, whereas the "note" and "there" are crazy so I can't imagine them as diphtongs, only as single sounds < 1472086400 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts as ay, then becomes ee, then becomes er < 1472086427 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: we have many more dipthongs than that, though < 1472086430 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about "paint"? < 1472086442 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's /really/ common so I'm surprised you haven't listed it < 1472086449 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's also an icelandic. < 1472086450 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: I think "paint" has the "make" diphtong, doesn't it? < 1472086455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1472086457 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed it < 1472086460 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks the dictionary
< 1472086467 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for anything more, i'd have to start looking at /who output. < 1472086472 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, same dipthong < 1472086480 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I missed it in your comment < 1472086496 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder where my reverse phonetic dictionary got to < 1472086511 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not something I've needed for decades < 1472086524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the worst sound? < 1472086538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've had australians and new zealanders before, but i'm not sure if there are any here these days. < 1472086540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is one more, the "here" diphtong, which is less common, and I DO confuse it with the ordinary long i sound from "sheep", and there are some other vowels that might be diphtongs in some pronunciations < 1472086542 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually I'm not 100% sure I ever really needed it; I read a lot so it's rare to need to figure out how a word is spelled given only its pronounciation, the reverse problem is more common) < 1472086554 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what I'm confused about very often depends on the spelling too < 1472086558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, "here" is distinct and also fairly rare < 1472086569 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I know English spelling much more than pronunciatino < 1472086572 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can blame you for that < 1472086576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chat too much in English < 1472086579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (and in the most vowelmergy dialects it's best just to figure out the word from the consonants) <-- hm ... english abjad < 1472086604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sixthong < 1472086615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well you have problems like the spelling "ere" being used for two distinct vowel combinations < 1472086625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hppavilion[1]: many are Norwegian or British <-- i don't think there are more than two norwegians. and i'm not sure if the other guy is still here. < 1472086635 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not being the spelling that you'd use for either if you were trying to construct a consistent spelling for dipthongs) < 1472086655 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rune was norwegian, I think, but I haven't seen them for ages < 1472086668 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh also swiss, when he comes around. < 1472086701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oooh, english abjad < 1472086724 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is the highest-order thong used in any common languages?) < 1472086749 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: instead of the crazy attempts to invent alternate spelling system, at least one person has started to devise an alternate English _dialect_ where the pronunciation is connected better to the writing yet is also more or less understandible as a dialect of English by existing speakers, < 1472086749 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : wob_jonas: "note" and "caught" are pretty different, though [...] <-- iirc they're much more different in english (RP) than in average american < 1472086754 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the homepage again < 1472086770 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/mark/regeng/ < 1472086771 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1472086777 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly it's an unfinished project < 1472086786 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a really good idea and they started it the right way < 1472086788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "General American" plz twh thx < 1472086789 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm talking about british english here, I'm much less experienced with american < 1472086810 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [an error occurred while processing this directive] < 1472086813 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by a 404 message < 1472086857 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a pronunciation that is more close to British in many ways, probably because it's influenced by my learning English in early years (at which time obviously I didn't chat on the internet in English) < 1472086880 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course it's also a horrible English as second language pronunciation with Hungarian accent < 1472086884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're pretty different, anyway. < 1472086897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess the vowel in "caught" is also often spelled or <-- only possibly equivalent in non-rhotic accents? < 1472086918 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think that's pretty much the definition of a non-rhotic accent < 1472086951 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, can dipthongs be r-colored?) < 1472086987 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I find it hard to hear the difference between the rhotic and non-rhotic pronouncation though because they both have the same meaning in English < 1472086988 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, non-rhotic is most of it, but also the rest of vowels (that don't have r in them) are more like British < 1472086991 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my brain didn't learn the difference < 1472086996 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: yes, the one in "fire" < 1472087004 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a triphtong but still < 1472087031 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's why I can't just learn to _pronounce_ a rhotic pronunciation, even though I'd prefer to < 1472087065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What's the worst sound? <-- czech r hacek hth < 1472087068 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to bring myself to actually pronounce any "r" that isn't pronounced in non-rhotic < 1472087073 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"air" is another rhotic tripthong I think < 1472087122 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :caught is the same as cot < 1472087145 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :short o < 1472087181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can't figure out what that means < 1472087192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's the caught/cot merger < 1472087200 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's the "there" vowel < 1472087202 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about rhoticity, as much as short 'o' becoming long 'or' < 1472087206 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so is the "here" vowel < 1472087211 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes < 1472087213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doubly-rhotic vowel...) < 1472087226 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "arr", like a pirate? < 1472087232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1472087236 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ř < 1472087268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If we assume that any vowel can be made rhotic and that a rhotic vowel is still a vowel, then you should be able to arbitrarily rhotate any vowel) < 1472087275 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so would that be a taught-tort merger? < 1472087293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In math, r's must be pronounced with omega rhotations) < 1472087312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(French is the most erhotic language) < 1472087321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: "General American" plz twh thx <-- OKAY < 1472087348 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I speak something like GA but with even more mergers < 1472087401 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thwacke hppavilion[1]. 0.95 shachafs.
< 1472087422 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :father bother taught cot all have the same vowel < 1472087440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If General American becomes too dense, we'll reach a singularity and all possible mergers will occur < 1472087451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ? < 1472087457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making all words exactly the same < 1472087464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1472087464 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I beg to francophonely disagree hth < 1472087470 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: would we have to speak in Unary? < 1472087474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cf. erhotic. < 1472087475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You highlighted me so I thought you thought I made a pun. < 1472087477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes < 1472087485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use some other unit that doesn't highlight me. < 1472087502 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shachaf? < 1472087510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: use grumpychafs < 1472087513 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that at school, we were supposedly learning a british pronunciation of english. but when at 18 i got to travel to australia, people there commented on how american we sounded.
< 1472087520 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds sort-of like a sheaf < 1472087520 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, "father" and "brother" seem like they should have similar sounds, but they don't < 1472087523 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so more imperial than metric < 1472087527 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: shachaf gets hilited on the chaf part. < 1472087534 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for it to be a metric unit of measurement shachaf would have to become a world-famous scientist < 1472087550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472087558 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foTR bruDR < 1472087563 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: so does "word" and "sword" < 1472087565 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the thing that gives it away to me is normally word choice < 1472087565 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: e isn't? < 1472087571 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like people saying "bathroom" to mean "toilet" < 1472087584 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a common result of people learning English from American soaps < 1472087596 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472087600 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's Taneb who's the inventor < 1472087600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: My coworkers always made fun of a British coworker. < 1472087611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well yeah < 1472087612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He would say that he washes his hands in the toilet. < 1472087617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1472087618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, Windows 98, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1472087640 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I dont think in British English you'd word it like that < 1472087643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1472087644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the axiom of choice, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1472087651 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sensible sentence would be along the lines of "I'm going to the toilets to wash my hands" < 1472087656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1472087657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented it. < 1472087658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hmm, maybe they just made fun of him by rephrasing it. < 1472087663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all in all my dialect has 13 vowels and four vowel-like consonants < 1472087674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway we also got the word "sauzzled" from him, and others. < 1472087682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't spell it like that either. < 1472087684 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the usual spelling I see is "sozzled" < 1472087686 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472087692 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sozLd < 1472087692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn torus/Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented it so he'd have something to drink his coffee out of. < 1472087693 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a very common word, though < 1472087694 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «torus» < 1472087699 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it's slang, and fairly rare slang at that < 1472087702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's not? < 1472087717 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's widely understood, right? < 1472087718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sozzled < 1472087723 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Can't figure out what that means <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%98 (hm i'd never heard that narvik thing before) < 1472087725 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, widely understood at least < 1472087731 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just have so many different words for being drunk < 1472087745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that any particular word is fairly uncommonly used unless it's very commonly used < 1472087756 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(err, urban dictionary is probably NSFW for language) < 1472087768 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFL < 1472087772 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so you might not want to check it at work) < 1472087788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: E.g. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VqbkoZcfbEg/V5l94B-IxQI/AAAAAAAABQQ/CaflMWl7Z2o8dk4zkQfB4iXFSclFlTI5ACL0B/w1056-h1408-no < 1472087810 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an uninformative URL < 1472087852 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an image but doesn't even end in a image format < 1472087867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If I didn't already know for a fact that googleusercontent.com was actually owned by google, I'd be suspicious < 1472087882 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :google1mag3s.info < 1472087892 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm suspicious anyway < 1472087900 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the whole point of that domain is that it's for content that google doesn't trust < 1472087915 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a different domain so that it violates the same origin policy if it tries to do anything with google cookies or the like) < 1472087927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472087929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I copied it from a Google Hangout conversation. < 1472087940 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's see...i missed a discussion of vowel pronunciations, shachaf's grumpiness, and the differences between american and british...anything interesting? < 1472087950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL was even worse before, but I removed the bit at the end that said "account id" < 1472087969 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my spelling system also solves the metre meter debacle by spelling it mEtR < 1472087970 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it depends on what you consider interesting, I guess < 1472087989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling ought to be completely distinct from pronunciation. < 1472087989 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you consider interesting? < 1472087992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'd probably go with googlelmages.info, and always write it in almost-full caps like GOOGLElMAGES.INFO < 1472087995 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait or is that mEdR < 1472087997 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've had some BF Joust stuff too (mostly because Lymia went and wrote a program generator that writes a program to beat the entire hill) < 1472088003 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they are, in tibetan < 1472088019 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I consider the BF Joust stuff to be interesting, if fairly annoying < 1472088020 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm does my dialect even distinguish t and d in words? < 1472088031 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i was here for that, i think? < 1472088039 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the English stuff is offtopic but interesting enough to not enforce topicality on it < 1472088045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If Americans don't want to use the metric system, why did we insist on changing the spelling of metre?) < 1472088055 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that said, something has to be both highly offtopic and highly uninteresting before we enforce topicality here) < 1472088064 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because f the french < 1472088072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also some discussion of Feather < 1472088076 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit I have a batter-badder merger < 1472088079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately I missed that < 1472088080 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm pretty sure America likes the french < 1472088081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ais523 would rather have an offtopic-conversation. < 1472088087 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/-/ / < 1472088096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: See: Mandarin < 1472088099 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how did you come to this conclusion? < 1472088099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure where that German influence came from. < 1472088102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: t/d merge isn't that rare < 1472088111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Revolutionary War < 1472088114 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is the Feather stuff even worth looking at? < 1472088116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess for it to be a metric unit of measurement shachaf would have to become a world-famous scientist <-- . o O ( who's the most obscure scientist with an SI unit ) < 1472088125 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think there was more than a line or two. < 1472088126 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think we should go back to the Old English system of spelling where you can do pretty much whatever you want and nobody complains < 1472088131 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have half a feeling that nobody else can really discuss Feather as it is because although I don't understand it either, I know more about it than most people < 1472088151 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Surely the smoot is at least as well-known as some SI units. < 1472088159 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PODCAST CHICKEN < 1472088162 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: then you are pretty sure the pre-americans of 225 years ago liked the revolutionary pre-napoleonic french of 225 years ago < 1472088167 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I know much more about it than the normal person, having only a negative 432 IQ when thinking about it" < 1472088176 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah < 1472088201 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I'm not even sure if I ever wrote down my big list of things a language needs to be Feather < 1472088202 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472088207 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because doing so would require thinking about Feather < 1472088208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But most Americans can't really tell the difference between 225 years ago and today except in technology < 1472088211 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I'm on the verge of thinking about it right now < 1472088226 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you never could even explain it in enough detail that anyone could even begin to infer such things < 1472088233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you asked me before that, I almost would've said Napoleon died long before the Revolutionary War < 1472088244 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I know < 1472088264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You didn't mess with tenses enough < 1472088267 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is at least partly because all the more concrete bits keep changing to fit the more conceptual bits in < 1472088287 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time travel model itself is very firm and easy to explain < 1472088288 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now you're begging to question again. how do you know what most americans *today* believe and understand? < 1472088311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Isn't the entire point of Feather that it's impossible, even with an oracle for all the biggest distinct undecidable problems? < 1472088317 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's basically "change the value that a clone function returned via rewinding in time to the point it was run, then continuing") < 1472088321 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no < 1472088329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be boring. < 1472088330 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly I haven't figured out how to make it work, but it's meant to be possible < 1472088335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm an American and I live today < 1472088337 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a time paradox would typically lead to an infinite loop < 1472088351 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bigger problem is that a time loop can happen despite the lack of a contradiction < 1472088366 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so am i, but i get the sense my understanding of american zeitgeist differs from yours < 1472088374 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the problem is, when you go back and change the past, you need to change it in such a way that you decide not to use your time machine in the future < 1472088383 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally without changing anything else < 1472088395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Are stable time loops possible? And are paradoxes the only (or best) way to execute an infinite loop? < 1472088400 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some fixes to this problem involve, say, checking if an object has a method, and if not, going back in time to add it < 1472088422 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: stable time loops are possible in the same way that terminating recursion is possible < 1472088426 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to find a base case somewhere < 1472088440 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning to have regular recursion too for loops < 1472088441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So it isn't a proper stable time loop then < 1472088444 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feather isn't intentionally hard to use < 1472088461 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well, the thing is < 1472088470 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you write an infinite recursion < 1472088475 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can approximate that with a finite recursion, right? < 1472088497 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(depending on the algo the approximation might either be good, or terrible, but the point is that you get a better approximation by cutting it off after a larger number of steps) < 1472088531 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my sense of the american zeitgeist with regards to france is "it's far enough away to mostly ignore, but you'd think they'd help with the war more given their muslim problem. also they spell and pronounce everything all wrong" < 1472088542 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is waiting for a yes, or possibly no
< 1472088574 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't get to ask me about Feather without having to think about the consequences too! < 1472088632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> holy shit I have a batter-badder merger <-- coincidentally i learned just the other day about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flapping < 1472088711 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…did I break hppavilion[1] already? I haven't even really reached the mindscrewy part yet < 1472088772 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it < 1472088788 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :feather does that...it's paradoxically quite the heavy burden to bear < 1472089477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523 is waiting for a yes, or possibly no <-- it works in denotational semantics < 1472089504 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I know it works < 1472089510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know whether hppavilion[1] knows it works < 1472089516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472091054 0 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472094058 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472094135 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1472094320 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b9:75ba:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472094536 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472096956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472097530 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472098239 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472098732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472099772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49632&oldid=49623 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+591) 10 < 1472099805 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49633&oldid=49632 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-11) 10 < 1472101306 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1472101306 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 250300Z 31006KT 30SM FEW240 20/15 A3012 RMK CI1 SLP202 DENSITY ALT 300FT < 1472104433 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I got a raise, does that indicate that I'm doing a good job? < 1472104449 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/If // < 1472104475 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask them < 1472104751 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: wage? < 1472104765 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally there is only a slight correlation < 1472105087 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472105198 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: really? what determines pay increases normally? < 1472105235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flapping of butterflies, near as I can figure. < 1472105281 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the duration of employment so far, employer's urge to share the profits, some quantum entanglements, etc < 1472105401 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. maybe I'll just look up some sort of management book < 1472105465 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: more seriously, the most important factor determining your wage is the wage at the first month (or year) < 1472105503 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are always exceptions, but normally the increments (even after incentives) are not large enough to make up for the loss at the first wage < 1472105527 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sad thing is the first wage is often determined by very irrational factors < 1472105552 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... well, my pay when I started this job was 70 kilodollars, and it's been raised to 80, but I wasn't told why < 1472105577 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should ask them why < 1472105582 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how you can learn. < 1472105582 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :70k$ for years and then raised suddenly? < 1472105599 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: no, I got this job last year < 1472105604 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One possibility is inflation I suppose < 1472105605 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after graduation < 1472105636 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, this year, the canadian dollar went down after the price of gasoline < 1472105679 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the durational increment is one way to counter inflation < 1472105694 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Canada, but I do not pay attention to that kinds of stuff; I do not drive a car < 1472105718 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you've got no explanation it is most likely explanation: you've got the standard increment < 1472105742 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess asking about the true explanation doesn't harm, though < 1472105873 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably means that your employer thought you were underpaid, and enough to worry about retention. < 1472105937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether that's due to re-evaluating how good of a job you were doing or market changes or other reasons, who knows. < 1472105956 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually, now that I think about it, maybe they noticed those google people stalking my linkedin < 1472106014 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google people always stalk everyone < 1472106031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Google pays more than that even for entry-level engineering employees. < 1472106041 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not on linkedin (for my personal policy to avoid SNSes anyway) and was contacted three or four times so far < 1472106052 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, Google also tends to employ in areas where 80 kilodollars is starvation wages. < 1472106056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even for interns, I think. And so do most silly valley employers as far as I know. < 1472106062 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: bay area? < 1472106074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472106076 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1472106077 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even 120k$ will barely make a cut, I guess < 1472106100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top internship offers in silly valley: https://twitter.com/rodneyfolz/status/724787290824798209 < 1472106124 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :120k$ goes somewhere from not far at all to, well, living pretty comfortably. Depending strongly on personal choices. < 1472106155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I bet I could get my school to unblock PornHub by justifying it with http://www.pornhub.com/insights/ (actually 100% SFW, surprisingly, assuming that sex-related words describing what people search for for purely statistical reasons aren't considered NSFW) < 1472106178 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: my average monthly expense does not exceed 1200$, I think, and I'm paid several times more (less than \oren\ however ;) so I'm pretty comfortable with that < 1472106196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They'd have a lot of trouble figuring it out, and I'd need to have a justification along the lines of "I need it for an essay", but it would work) < 1472106216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I moved to the bay area in 2010, my expenses were ~$1000/month. < 1472106235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yeah, if that's your typical monthly expenses $50k is pretty nice. < 1472106260 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly my standard of living would have been higher for the same cost somewhere else. < 1472106263 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I made the personal choice to keep living in my parents' house with no rent, hence my only expenses are food, cell phone and video games < 1472106273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow, http://www.pornhub.com/emoji is just wrong < 1472106275 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's weird that the price level of Korea is actually considerably high < 1472106287 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good god does cost of living effect the value of money. < 1472106314 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If income scales with cost of living, it probably makes sense to live in the highest cost-of-living area. < 1472106319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it usually doesn't. < 1472106330 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the effect of higher price level seems to affect multi-person households, though < 1472106336 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the effect of/* < 1472106348 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/\*$/\/\/*/ (sigh) < 1472106367 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should have used s### instead
< 1472106459 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that *on average* the income to cost of living ratio is best near reasonably sizable cities but not the huge ones, in the US. (think Kansas City) < 1472106466 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean yeah, living at your parents' house as an adult is sometimes considered.. pathetic, but most people in my generation are doing it anyway... < 1472106492 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Maybe pathetic by some, but by current generation standards it's hardly noteworthy. < 1472106512 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly if you've got a paying job. < 1472106543 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :living alone is a bit hard, especially when you haven't lived alone at all < 1472106560 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My parents left home at like 18 and got their own apartments and cars and such < 1472106565 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on dorms for some decades and I was quite comfortable living alone < 1472106589 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Anyway I bet you could be making a lot more money elsewhere if you cared to. < 1472106594 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :When my mom was my age, she had 4 kids. < 1472106619 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Possibly, but not relative to cost of living for him. < 1472106627 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *had* to live with parents when I've initially graduated, but I got frustrated enough that I've got a shared house next year < 1472106628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably even in Toronto. < 1472106634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know. < 1472106647 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: $80k *and living in his parents house*. Hard to beat. :) < 1472106674 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ~$62k in USD < 1472106690 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised that \oren\ can put 90% of one's income to the saving account ;) < 1472106695 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/if/ < 1472106700 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once did < 1472106708 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes he made $62k in St Louis.
< 1472106716 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now down to about 60% < 1472106719 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Granted, at $55k I lived like a king there. < 1472106757 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, $750 rent, how I miss thee. < 1472106776 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rent in toronto is typically $2000/mo < 1472106785 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more < 1472106795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty expensive. < 1472106829 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not *quite* Bay Area madness, but that's not far off. < 1472106846 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Berkeley I pay <$1500/month for a 1br apartment. < 1472106860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I think is somewhat below market. < 1472106867 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1472106879 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it's not the highest-quality of apartments. But it's also walking distance to BART and to the office I work at. < 1472106892 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get it to 1400 if you're willing to take an hour commute to work in the city centre < 1472106992 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on public transport quality it might be actually a good trade-off < 1472107012 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :public transit in toronto? horrendous < 1472107019 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1472107063 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take the subway to work currently, and over a distnce of 5 km, it's only marginally faster than walking < 1472107092 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my house and workplace are about 20km apart, but there is a crazy subway inbetween which takes only <15 min (!!!!!) < 1472107102 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seoul is kind of crazy city < 1472107122 0 :Woody!~Woody@245.186.197.77.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472107127 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice subway < 1472107170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trains discussion in #trains hth < 1472107179 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that channel < 1472107195 0 :Woody!~Woody@245.186.197.77.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1472107265 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...does that channel really exist < 1472107270 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1472107299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this summer the streetcar is down because... I have no idea why. they just decided to tear up the tracks < 1472107339 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead there is a bus, which is much slower than walking because of traffic < 1472107387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :traffic made worse because of the construction in the middle of the road < 1472107434 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I tend not to talk much about trains because I know of several train maniacs (I tend to mock them with that word, hah) and every time I say about trains I cannot switch the topic to others < 1472107439 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I bet they'll leave giant potholes in the road till next summer < 1472107455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: That's why it's a separate channel. < 1472107459 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1472107467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can not pay attention to it when you don't want to. < 1472107488 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait so you are assuming that I'm supposed to join that channel already < 1472107780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not supposed to do anything. < 1472107958 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thought that I'm supposed to join to that channel and *ignore* any conversation < 1472107968 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to join is an option apparently < 1472107977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do whatever you like. < 1472109082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Megastructure is a stupid word < 1472109344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, we must also define Hellostructure, Yoctostructure, Zeptostructure, Attostructure, Femtostructure, Picostructure, Nanostructure, Microstructure, Millistructure, Centistructure, Decistructure, Dekastructure, Hectostructure, Kilostructure, Gigastructure, Terastructure, Petastructure, Exastructure, Zetastructure, Yottastructure, and Hellastructure as well if we wish to use it < 1472109361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with, perhaps, Myriastructure and Dimistructure < 1472109651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megagon has the example image labeled "a regular megagon" < 1472109679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you open the image, it says in the description that it's just a black circle < 1472109697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask for your money back. < 1472109987 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i first sumbled upon it on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/65537-gon < 1472110021 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you open the actual svg, it _is_ a circle < 1472110134 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, it is clearly not a circle. < 1472110162 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SVG has a big ol' in it. < 1472110190 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sl someone actually did it? < 1472110191 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1472110221 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. Checked the source. < 1472110487 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the minimum n for which a 1-pixel-wide regular n-gon, on a typical display, is indistinguishable from a circle? < 1472110745 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 pixel wide isn't very wide at all < 1472110747 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 HTH < 1472110801 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was just a warm-up problem, of course < 1472110809 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"indistinguishable" by what means, and what is a "typical display" < 1472110814 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3, 4 if anti-aliased?) < 1472110871 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this era of billion pixel displays they may all be invisible on one of those ;-) < 1472111292 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the minimum n for which a solid regular n-gon is indistinguishable from a disk, if both are rendered 1000 pixels in diameter with 256-level linear grayscale anti-aliasing? < 1472111452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472113364 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I get to choose a non-integral offset for rendering, and can I distinguish all grey levels? < 1472113603 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Somehow these clarification questions are more interesting to me than the problem itself... I can do estimates like when the polygon border never differs by more than 0.1 pixels from the circle, but the actual question seems to require doing the actual rendering, at least partially, for various n and adjusted radii... doing that efficiently will get messy) < 1472113985 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you imagine if another fermat prime is ever found < 1472113998 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone will have to construct it as a regular polygon < 1472114052 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472114890 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next constructible p-gon candidate is 2^2^33 + 1, apparently < 1472115081 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: since the relative distances of the vertices (and pixel fragment areas) are irrational, any solution will probably have non-zero wiggle room for the offsets (both linear and angular) < 1472115143 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this can be provably solved by relaxation to some linear programs... < 1472117008 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1472117750 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bardworthlist http://www.bardsworth.com/?comic=the-simplest-solution < 1472117751 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bardworthlist: not found < 1472117757 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, we don't have that? < 1472117758 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1472120120 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes I got to the point where there's wiggle room; that's what I called messy. < 1472120129 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wiggling room < 1472123100 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472123107 0 :rntz!~rntz@96.95.216.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472125702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Alacrity14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49634&oldid=43000 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */ obviously < 1472127076 0 :7ITAADPZ4!~nick@62.6.146.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472127178 0 :7ITAADPZ4!~nick@62.6.146.242 PART #esoteric : < 1472129581 0 :sebbu2!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1472129942 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472130979 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472131190 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472131269 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472131352 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472132955 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14034901_329713930752185_4290839317358935232_n.jpg?oh=1572f16b3581b724deb362f55e644180&oe=5857D782/join #lainchan < 1472132960 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dangit < 1472132982 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :COmptuer you need to actually pay attention when I do things like ctrl+a to high light text. < 1472133243 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472133288 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49635&oldid=49158 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+208) 10File argument < 1472134609 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472135930 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49636&oldid=49633 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+39) 10i dont think you want this in a `pre` block < 1472136148 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49637&oldid=49636 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+13) 10It's not Markdown ._. < 1472138685 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472138704 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472139063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/b*list < 1472139065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bardsworthlist < 1472139074 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i recommend correct spelling hth < 1472139310 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.... right < 1472139313 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1472139543 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472139630 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472139816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :panel 2 of today's darths & droids doesn't make sense to me. have they managed to mix up annie and sally? < 1472139856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh sally is in university now, isn't she... < 1472139858 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49638&oldid=49119 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+710) 10Joke? Not designed as a joke, though. < 1472139862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not. < 1472139912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49639&oldid=49635 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+28) 10 < 1472139945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49640&oldid=49062 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+21) 10MSF- in! < 1472139956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait... annie and _ben_? < 1472139980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes he'll find out in the forum.
< 1472140022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07!!SuperPrime14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49641&oldid=49034 5* 03Erikkonstas 5* (+0) 10 < 1472141663 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nfnwgyujzbogfiwr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472141671 0 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xriyroheyybpwmtf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472141699 0 :heroux_!?@? NICK :heroux < 1472142918 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man we need more people in other time zones. < 1472143000 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472143013 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe less? < 1472143031 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposal: put all of north america on one time zone < 1472143051 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all of europe on another < 1472143072 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re above: apparently no one in the forum thought it was weird) < 1472143080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1472143080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters. < 1472143095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT TIME ZONES < 1472143125 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is france on the same time zone as poland yet? < 1472143146 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's just an hour difference, it's not like it'll matter < 1472143159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it looks like they are < 1472143161 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if poland even is eastern - let me check < 1472143170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time FreeFull < 1472143172 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for FreeFull is Thu Aug 25 16:39:32 2016 < 1472143192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not poland. oh right he's actually in the uk isn't he < 1472143208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time nortti < 1472143209 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for nortti is Thu Aug 25 18:40:09 2016 < 1472143219 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better. finland is eastern. < 1472143233 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uk is weird on the map I found. It's not on the same time zone as spain < 1472143270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uk isn't weird by definition, that's where the zero meridian is. < 1472143278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that you can change time zones by flying directly south < 1472143295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spanish decided to join their french neighbors, though. < 1472143349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the middle zone contains a lot more countries than you'd think just by geography. < 1472143393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because it is convenient for neighbors to have the same one. < 1472143532 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe everyone in eurasia should use Moscow time < 1472143564 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there is a lot of countries in UTC+1 < 1472143611 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both France and Spain should be in UTC+0 by geographyy < 1472143625 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're in UTC+1 for some reason < 1472143744 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Standard_World_Time_Zones.png < 1472143746 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually, now that britain isn't in the EU, it whould be easier for the EU to have a single time zone < 1472143752 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timezones are weird < 1472143755 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472143791 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we should have as few of them as possible < 1472143796 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: You'd need to change the timezone of Greece, Bulgaria and Romania though < 1472143817 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nepal is UTC+5.75 < 1472143833 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whyyyyy < 1472143855 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australia is split into UTC+8.75, UTC+9.5 and UTC+10 < 1472143857 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should be the same as either china or india < 1472143890 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :India is UTC+5.5 < 1472143943 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care what the offsets are, I just think there should be fewer zones < 1472143958 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll never convince people < 1472143967 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :india and china each have only one zone < 1472143970 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :standardize on UTC+3.14 everywhere < 1472143988 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite their horizontal extent < 1472143992 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: WHAT? isn't Australia split to three zones, two of which are integer hours offset? < 1472144016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks
< 1472144060 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh, the map I'm looking at might not be fully correct < 1472144098 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :timezones are great and we should have as many as possible :D < 1472144138 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australia is split to +0800 (Perth), +0930 (empty desert), and +1000 (where all the big cities are) < 1472144166 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, how about eight time zones: San Francisco, New York, London, Berlin, Moscow, Delhi, Beijing, Tokyo < 1472144242 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that doesn't work. you can't have all of the African tropics switch DST backwards < 1472144290 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, how about eight time zones in the northern hemisphere, and the southern hemisphere does somthign else < 1472144306 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do we need to put entire countries or territories in the same time zone? let's just inconvenience everyone proportional to their size and have 24 time zones which exactly correspond with 15 degree multiple longitude lines < 1472144337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mostly for easy referencing < 1472144353 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: lol good one < 1472144366 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "I'm in China, therefore, beijing time, all the time" < 1472144384 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :china is weird < 1472144414 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a lot easier to reference by just looking up a place's longitude and not having to do any special casing < 1472144432 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put gps chips in every clock too < 1472144544 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe all of north america should use Dallas time < 1472144634 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be cool if all of the world used actual local time, like how it was back in the time of sun dials < 1472144662 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that would suck. did suck. that's why zones were invented < 1472144721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, people actually noticed it when they began traveling fast by train < 1472144737 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that was more like in the time of temple clocks < 1472144742 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: exactly < 1472144753 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used local times everywhere, which was horrible for following train travel timetables < 1472144759 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to put together a train time table when every town uses a differentime < 1472146086 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1472146628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why all my spaceplanes hav twin tails < 1472146725 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you played a lot of sonic when you were younger < 1472146885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472147863 0 :macin!~macin@106.208.126.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472147943 0 :macin!~macin@106.208.126.154 PART #esoteric : < 1472149337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472150392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472151299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472151346 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to draw a regular hexagram in one stroke the same way you can a regular pentagram? < 1472151376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going to guess no, and that that's true for any n-gram where n is even) < 1472151406 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's two triangles < 1472151408 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a rule for draw a graph without taking an edge twice, but I forget what it is < 1472151410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, looks like I'm wrong; you can do it with an octagram < 1472151449 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, there must be either zero or precisely two nodes with odd degree < 1472151455 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks < 1472151465 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, that makes sense < 1472151470 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(heptagrams are much more holy than hexagrams) < 1472151472 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If zero, it makes a loop < 1472151474 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, for a hexagram, yes < 1472151594 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg52s4n1sxw2kmb.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472151889 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@64.137.202.202 QUIT :Changing host < 1472151889 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472153301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are pronouns for nouns, why are there not proverbs for verbs or proadjectives for adjectives or proadverbs for adverbs? < 1472153821 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are pro-forms, which are more general version of pronouns < 1472153874 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472154338 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: just draw the inner hexagon first then add the points to the sides. < 1472154422 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472154435 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: furthermore, after 6 vertices, there is not "a" regular n-gram. there are many different n-grams for each n. < 1472154457 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiyais523 < 1472154493 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1472154504 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472154549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back to idling land < 1472154558 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :made any useful or fun code lately? < 1472154585 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Quickbooks is following me around: http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/10418 < 1472154607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472154694 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not really < 1472154699 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an esolang idea but I haven't written any of it down < 1472154708 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wikipedia < 1472154709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :104) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. \ 888) is there a way to tag things on wikipedia as "wtf this makes no sense"? quintopia: {{featured article}} < 1472154720 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is this margis enough space to contain it? < 1472154725 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :*margin < 1472154753 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it should have a fairly short description in English < 1472154760 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to translate it from internal-thought-language < 1472154871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it because it's very simple and helps make progress towards at least two of the ideas I had < 1472154882 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I should write an interp myself or leave it to someone else < 1472154921 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should implement it in BCT < 1472154971 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :hahagoodidea < 1472154975 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1472154981 0 :hahagoodidea!?@? NICK :D < 1472154987 0 :D!?@? NICK :colonD < 1472154988 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the sort of language that's much easier to compile than interpret < 1472154994 0 :colonD!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1472154996 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'd hate to write a compiler in BCT < 1472155018 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't being particularly serious < 1472155196 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :irony transports really well on IRC < 1472155216 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably wasn't particularly ironic either < 1472155225 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go with flippant < 1472155251 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472155328 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472155383 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches expectantly whether ais523 writes the idea up
< 1472155408 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about the details atm < 1472155411 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hold your breath man. give him some space. < 1472155460 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it takes years to write up ideas < 1472155473 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1472155475 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1472155476 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it takes indefinitely long (e.g. Feather) < 1472155717 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07David Madore14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49642&oldid=45477 5* 03B jonas 5* (+21) 10 < 1472156327 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472156551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472157064 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472157147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EXCON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49643&oldid=35250 5* 03Mychal 5* (+543) 10Added Io implementation < 1472158057 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472158209 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a470:45f6:2c84:df73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472158712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472158824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I need to do this right < 1472158836 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those things that once I define the language, it'll be hard to change < 1472158845 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are certain properties I want it to have that I'm not sure it wil have < 1472159526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472159679 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, that sucks < 1472159711 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are mature languages that have ugly faults that are very hard to fix now, and would have been trivial to fix with no drawbacks when they were first designed < 1472159720 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compatibility is a bitch, but we depend on it < 1472159782 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :socanifirefly < 1472159786 0 :socanifirefly!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1472159848 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :shikhpin < 1472160125 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a list of words and you must produce a number N in [3,5] and a list of 10 letters (which can be repeated) such that there are at least X words in your list that are at least N letters long that can be written by using only letters in your list < 1472160305 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can always just start over if you get things wrong. look at python 3.x < 1472160309 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: what < 1472160320 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make an example < 1472160333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: in esolangs there are other issues < 1472160341 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. escaping syntax in Underload < 1472160347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was in the original spec but never implemetned < 1472160387 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472160404 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, that sort of things happens even in non-esolangs < 1472160416 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the infamous EOF issues with Brainfuck. < 1472160428 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't think those were ever actually resolved though < 1472160436 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could argue about EOF issues in C < 1472160438 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :word list is english dictionary, my number is 3, my list is A B C A D E G A I D and these words are at least 3 letters long: decade bed dice ... < 1472160458 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Yeah, EOF in Brainfuck was not resolved, the status quo is "-1, 0, or no change; pick one" < 1472160469 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifially, what happens if you read EOF from a terminal and then read again; the C spec implies you should get EOF again, on Linux/UNIX you can get data though) < 1472160478 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as one of the more famous examples (that is luckiliy mostly a thing of the past) is the original meaning of the export keyword in C++93 which has to do with templates and separate compilation and almost nobody implemented it < 1472160503 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the C spec implies that? < 1472160510 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I think so < 1472160520 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked Usenet about it at one point, because it was an interesting question < 1472160532 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic issue is that the concept of "end of file" doesn't really apply to unix/linux syscalls < 1472160539 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a "no data" return but it doesn't mean the same thing < 1472160541 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not especially the case: if you're using stdio routines, POSIX says you keep getting EOF. < 1472160568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think I've seen a file spontaneously un-EOF using stdio < 1472160572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be misremembering though < 1472160578 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because reading an EOF from the terminal via a syscall, has stdio set the EOF flag. < 1472160579 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, either I'm missing something or that was broken. < 1472160594 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: while we're there, is it true that on some unices you could lseek a terminal and get success? < 1472160604 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be that the EOF flag stays set but getchar returns non-EOF < 1472160612 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise mte < 1472160614 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*me < 1472160621 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect it to be a no-op with an incorrect return value < 1472160638 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard a rumour about that, and it's scary because I'd like a way to test whether a file descriptor can be seeked (so that a program can use a faster algorithm if it can be seeked, or a slower and more memory-consuming one if it can't). < 1472160658 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Both POSIX and C say that's invalid, but it's possible for an implementation to be invalid. < 1472160662 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the rumour was that it read and wrote some sort of byte counter that was also incremented when you read (or written, I dunno) bytes to the terminal < 1472160672 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a completely meaningless counter that is < 1472160691 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: what's more interesting is not whether you can seek a terminal, but whether you can tell a terminal < 1472160694 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, it's effectively a no-op < 1472160707 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I said lseek. that's the syscall behind both seek and tell. < 1472160724 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no separate tell syscall, you just call lseek with 0 offset and SEEK_CUR directionality < 1472160730 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The behavior of lseek() on devices which are incapable of seeking is implementation-defined." LOL. < 1472160751 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ah right < 1472160764 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they SORT OF need to say that because of tape drives that can somewhat seek but not arbitrarily like a hard disk or a regular file < 1472160790 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I just tested, the problem is with fgets < 1472160806 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it reads an EOF it sets the EOF flag to 1 < 1472160816 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise acts as though the EOF wasn't there < 1472160821 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it keeps returning data if the data is present < 1472160837 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy hell, that's actually in POSIX. < 1472160841 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you clear that flag with clearerr() or fseek() ? < 1472160854 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: clearerr() should work, I'd have thought < 1472160866 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correction, that's in ISO C. < 1472160876 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472160878 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fgets appears to read one read() result at a time; I don't know if it has signal handler handling < 1472160891 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind-of hard to make a signal handler interrupt the middle of an fgets < 1472160893 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, hmm < 1472160908 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fgets per ISO C does not examine the end-of-file indicator, while most other functions do. < 1472160915 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could specify unbuffered I/O, then fgets into a buffer which was partly in unmapped memory < 1472160936 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would that send a signal as opposed to just an EFAULT with no signal? < 1472160937 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could handle the SIGSEGV via allocating the rest of the buffer < 1472160958 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that's technically undefined behaviour though < 1472160969 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: logically it should send a signal, shouldn't it? < 1472160971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think in Linux no syscall raises a SIGSEGV from faulting on a user memory access synchroniously. < 1472160981 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it should return EFAULT I think < 1472160989 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: flock() in another thread and then raise a signal in that thread. < 1472160990 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila. < 1472160990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the syscall would efault, but fgets should convert that into a segfault < 1472160996 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... < 1472160999 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would segfault if it were using buffered I/O! < 1472161000 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1472161027 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wouldn't interrupt the read(), granted. For that it'd need to be blocked on something.) < 1472161032 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFAULT isn't even a legal value from fgets, AFAICT it doesn't set errno < 1472161034 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like a pipe) < 1472161040 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah < 1472161045 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up with this function! < 1472161053 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at that point it's probably implementation-defined, I've no idea what fgets would do < 1472161089 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you could try to simulate an interrupted syscall by ptrace with a debugger, breaking on the syscall and sending a signal < 1472161103 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX' semantics for fgets errors are "see fgetc", FWIW. < 1472161119 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: not fread? < 1472161140 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a read error occurs, the error indicator for the stream shall be set, fgets() shall return a null pointer, and shall set errno to indicate the error. < 1472161141 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it does set errno < 1472161145 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Not fread. < 1472161150 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot I had the POSIX manual here as well as the Linux one < 1472161154 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until just now < 1472161165 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ Helpful advice. < 1472161184 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :posix manual (needs free registration once) => https://www2.opengroup.org/ogsys/catalog/t101 < 1472161197 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux manual => https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ < 1472161216 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also glibc manual is relevant => https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/ < 1472161240 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :openbsd manual and freebsd manual resp => http://man.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi , http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi < 1472161255 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're connected on the internet, you likely have lots of manuals < 1472161270 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, I also have local copies of some of these for convenience < 1472161330 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the POSIX manual is in the Ubuntu repos < 1472161335 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man 3p fgets, etc. < 1472161345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(once it's installed) < 1472161347 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: most of it, yes < 1472161827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote shachaf | paste < 1472161830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.4030 < 1472162184 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minkoijjikop < 1472162185 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minkoijjikop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472162194 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone add a wisdom for that < 1472162203 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe make an esolang of that name < 1472162376 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472162433 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fehér leple foszlányait < 1472162761 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-got. < 1472162786 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472162793 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: See above. < 1472162793 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: would not work either on some ms-dos compilers. :) i remember. < 1472162982 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know you were around back then, fungot < 1472162982 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i'll look into it later tonight.) < 1472163056 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so in this other irc network there's a game we play < 1472163060 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically scrabble < 1472163077 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots generates 10 letters which can be repeated, and a number < 1472163098 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you must write as many words as possible with those letters, and your words must be at least letters long < 1472163116 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is: the current bot is awful < 1472163146 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it just produced this list N D S L Z R A U U K and you had to write words that are at least 5 letters long < 1472163163 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exactly 0 italian words fit that criterion < 1472163178 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1472163179 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1472163182 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472163191 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it has two vowels < 1472163200 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and enough consonants < 1472163207 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you allowed to add accent to the letters? < 1472163208 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't repeat letters < 1472163219 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472163227 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "can be repeated" < 1472163227 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "sara" has 2 a but that list only has 1 < 1472163237 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah in that list there are two u's < 1472163248 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that sense they can be repeated < 1472163258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd need to find something that ands in an "a" and has a "u" in it? < 1472163275 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes or maybe no a and two u's < 1472163287 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472163301 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my problem is: how do i generate better lists of letters? < 1472163339 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: are you allowed to add accents to those letters? < 1472163360 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use a dictionary that has many unaccented versions of accented words < 1472163423 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :polybot < 1472163446 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: idekinn hideg éj sziszeg aztán < 1472163447 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 4 cakeprophet: bf ( thread-id 3) ( 4 5 ( ( 1 3)... < 1472163481 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake-prophet? < 1472163545 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nekem fütyöl < 1472163545 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ( a regex literal would not be allowed in sisc? < 1472163574 0 :polybot!?@? NICK :moon < 1472163584 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: CakeProphet was a regular here a while back < 1472163586 0 :moon!?@? NICK :moonythedwarf < 1472163597 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, that explains it < 1472163600 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the full username was "the prophet wizard of the crayon cake" but it doesn't fit on IRC < 1472163662 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: my algorithm would be this: generate letters according to letter frequencies of the language, then check a wordlist to see how many words there are (computers can do this quickly) < 1472163665 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not enough, reroll < 1472163675 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I already have a program for solving this problem < 1472163689 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works like this: I have a wordlist where the words have had their letters sorted into alphabetical order < 1472163710 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I just create a regex a?d?k?l?n?r?s?u?u?z? < 1472163717 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and regex it against the wordlist < 1472163721 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1472163784 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 20 5-letter-or-longer words that fit these rules in English (using my English word list) < 1472163792 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just roll the 16 boggle master cubes and discard 6 at random < 1472163794 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vast majority are four-letter words that have been pluralized by adding an s < 1472163805 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is very good thanks < 1472163837 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two six-letter words: "kudzus" and "drunks" (both five-letter words that were pluralized by adding an s) < 1472163849 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have such a wordlist for Italian but it should be easy enough to generate one < 1472163857 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1472163865 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot that's a very nice hint < 1472163900 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Máglyára, ki ellenszegül, minden velsz énekest! < 1472163900 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: yes it's stupid a 6 can't be applied: it's not a useful religion for developing a http server application < 1472163908 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you need some sort of dictionary to go back from the sorted words to the originals, but that's easy enough to write as well < 1472163926 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i don't need it < 1472163940 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, it's so hard to get out of the habit of seeing foreign words and trying to guess what they mean from the spelling < 1472163942 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine as long as it matches 20 or more words < 1472163945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with Hungarian there's no point < 1472163965 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it'd only work on loanwords < 1472163967 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all four of the above are quotes from Arany János poems < 1472163973 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly Hungarian does have a lot of loanwords) < 1472164092 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the poems should be easy to find, and some of the poems even have translations, you can try to find some on http://www.magyarulbabelben.net/works/hu-en/Arany_J%C3%A1nos-1817 -- I don't know how good translations they are < 1472164116 0 :shikhpin!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1472164142 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Szondi két apródja" has a translation by Makai Ádám, presumably that's a good one because he's famous, I've no idea about the rest < 1472164193 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fewer loanwords back then in the 19th century, especially very few loanwords from English < 1472164252 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the quotes alone aren't very meaningful without knowing the whole poem < 1472164440 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have a twin? < 1472164440 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the interpreter exposes the c library < 1472164822 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Anyu, én igyekszem a haragom levetni. < 1472164858 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg52s4n1sxw2kmb.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472165009 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I find your lack of uptime disturbing < 1472165311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: a multiplayer online game where the protocol between server and client is open, and therefore anyone is welcome to produce their own game client < 1472165334 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus all game logics must be enforced at the server < 1472165487 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some of the metagame would be programming a better/more efficient client < 1472165537 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to most games where using a better client would be considered cheating < 1472165847 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. consider a FPS where use of aimbots is not only allowed but encouraged, but the game simulates such things as recoil at the server. < 1472165878 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with fungot? < 1472166780 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472166911 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball when will I be young again? < 1472166911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is decidedly so. < 1472166916 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1472166949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it is good with non-yes/no questions < 1472166962 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472167290 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PART #esoteric : < 1472167464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:199.15.233.16210]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472167504 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1472167511 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1472167514 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what's with fungot. < 1472167514 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and i think it does < 1472167533 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess it was just the reply count limit. < 1472168115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irc < 1472168116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is short for "Internet Relay Chat". It is named so because all the servers are constructed from relays. < 1472168169 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1472168169 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not? its simplicity is not a procedure < 1472168170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1472168343 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472168531 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-202-13.ddns.ualr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472168825 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@wopr-144-167-202-13.ddns.ualr.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472168916 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks to you, now i have this https://arin.ga/gqBhgB/raw < 1472168940 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1472169096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472169123 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gcsbdpqpzzlypkwx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1472169147 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dictionary has 282043 words and that thing takes .186s https://arin.ga/NKWiVq/raw < 1472169150 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an awk script < 1472169254 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/nhRTKL/raw here it is < 1472169428 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ildhnuqfyzkjcmcn JOIN :#esoteric < 1472169517 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472170185 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472170312 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472170746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, can I call the number 110,000 "eleven hundred hundred"? < 1472170778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.1 lakh < 1472170867 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven myriad! < 1472171096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49644&oldid=49638 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+364) 10 < 1472171336 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : じゅういちまん < 1472171384 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :十一万 HTH < 1472171439 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: can you read hiragana? < 1472171467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Nope < 1472171474 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jyuu ichi man < 1472171507 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is some weird romanization. < 1472171588 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ildhnuqfyzkjcmcn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1472171589 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jūichiman" would be a more normal Hepburn, no? < 1472171618 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kpwrtoucyldiiykb JOIN :#esoteric < 1472171873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49645&oldid=49644 5* 03Darkrifts 5* (+47) 10 < 1472172382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm sort of using wa-puro romaji < 1472172527 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty scow. < 1472172544 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when you're inserting literally unnecessary characters in it. < 1472172560 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with normal-ish wapuro, that'd be "juuichiman". < 1472172573 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "juu ichi man" I guess. < 1472175629 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472177139 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@c-71-238-242-230.hsd1.ar.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472177163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is circumcision not classified as genital mutilation? < 1472177208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To some degree, it's like carving a cross or star of david into your child's flesh < 1472177442 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang. /// is more than 10 and a half years old now. < 1472177565 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :About circumcision: yup. < 1472177582 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tradition, I suppose. < 1472177602 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been legal for thousands of years and they haven't changed the law yet. < 1472177633 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you musta been, like, 4 when I came up with ///. < 1472177735 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now here's a question. < 1472177748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Sounds right < 1472177752 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow Mauritania < 1472177753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good job < 1472177756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great job < 1472177758 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ///, how can I compress a big long thing that's very regular, but doesn't actually have much in the way of individual substrings that are repeated a lot, like: < 1472177760 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99E99F98E98E98F97E97E97F96E96E96F95E95E95F94E94E94F93E93E93F92E92E92F91E91E91F90E90E90F89E89E89F88E88E88F87E87E87F86E86E86F85E85E85F84E84E84F83E83E83F82E82E82F81E81E81F80E80E80F79E79E79F78E78E78F77E77E77F76E76E76F75E75E75F74E74E74F73E73E73F72E72E72F71E71E71F70E70E70F69E69E69F68E68E68F67E67E67F66E66E66F65E65E65F64E64E64F63E63E63F62E62E62F61E61E61F60E60E60F59E59E59F58E58E58F57E57E57F56E56E56F55E55E55F54E54E54F53E53E53F52E52E52F51E51E51F50E50E50F49E49E49F48 < 1472177760 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :E48E48F47E47E47F46E46E46F45E45E45F44E44E44F43E43E43F42E42E42F41E41E41F40E40E40F39E39E39F38E38E38F37E37E37F36E36E36F35E35E35F34E34E34F33E33E33F32E32E32F31E31E31F30E30E30F29E29E29F28E28E28F27E27E27F26E26E26F25E25E25F24E24E24F23E23E23F22E22E22F21E21E21F20E20E20F19E19E19F18E18E18F17E17E17F16E16E16F15E15E15F14E14E14F13E13E13F12E12E12F11E11E11F10E10E10F < 1472177777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1472177796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you mean.... < 1472177799 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see what you mean < 1472177820 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, how could I create a concise /// program outputting that? < 1472177832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, the problem is I don't see the pattern yet < 1472177838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that there is some sort of pattern < 1472177841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't tell how it works < 1472177870 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, the string consists of "nEnEnF" repeated for each number from about 99 down to about 10. < 1472177871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with a concise program outputting that in a traditional language, for a start < 1472177901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Except 99E is only once? < 1472177941 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. So 98 is the first one where it has the entire nEnEnF. < 1472177959 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ihttp://esolangs.org/wiki//// may be my favorite URL < 1472177974 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, it's kind of a wonderful URL. < 1472177976 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Well, you're definitely going to need the string #E#E#F < 1472177990 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And # gets replaced with the number < 1472178039 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not sure how to print it < 1472178092 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme pose a possibly easier question. < 1472178101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, I think I'm figuring it out < 1472178108 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so the pattern has to be a literal, except \ can escape \ or /? < 1472178112 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for my own benefit, I mean. < 1472178114 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's correct. < 1472178122 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, of course, \ and / both must be escaped. < 1472178138 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ...that's what I said < 1472178188 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for my own benefit, here's a new question. Come up with a reasonably concise /// program outputting this: < 1472178196 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00_01_02_03_04_05_06_07_010_11_12_13_14_15_16_17_18_19_20_21_22_23_24_25_26_27_28_29_30_31_32_33_34_35_36_37_38_39_40_41_42_43_44_45_46_47_48_49_50_51_52_53_54_55_56_57_58_59_60_61_62_63_64_65_66_67_68_69_70_71_72_73_74_75_76_77_78_79_80_81_82_83_84_85_86_87_88_89_90_91_92_93_94_95_96_97_98_99_ < 1472178220 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... there's a hilarious error in the middle of that. < 1472178235 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See where it says 07_010_11? That should say 07_08_09_10_11. < 1472178292 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I'm not sure if there's a way to do it concisely < 1472178304 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, here's a trick I learned from the wiki page. < 1472178306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there probably is < 1472178309 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1 is to convert that to this... < 1472178325 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00_01_02_03_04_05_06_07_08_09/_0/_1/_00_01_02_03_04_05_06_07_08_09/_1/_2/_00_01_02_03_04_05_06_07_08_09 < 1472178327 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1472178334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... if you can make a replacement self-replicate somehow, it'd probably work < 1472178347 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can come up with a shortcut for 00_01_02_03_04_05_06_07_08_09. < 1472178381 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you'll just be left with something looking a lot like... < 1472178406 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you need to have a normal decrement substitution (like the one in Thue in reverse and decimal rather than binary) < 1472178423 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472178426 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x/_0/_1/x/_1/_2/x/_2/_3/x/_3/_4/x/_4/_5/x/_5/_6/x/_6/_7/x/_7/_8/x/_8/_9/ < 1472178426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which will definitely have to be at least 10 distinct substitutions < 1472178496 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a counter I think... < 1472178562 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a method by which the count can be inserted into all occurrences of # in #E#E#F < 1472178573 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then print it and start over with a decremented count < 1472178597 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have to be terminated by a final _? < 1472178663 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: nope. < 1472178675 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :print('_'.join(str(x).zfill(2)for x in range(100))) Is the shortest I can come up with in Python < 1472178686 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there is a shorter version though < 1472178688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: note you can escape characters other than / and \ as well. that often makes it easier _not_ to substitute things too early. < 1472178740 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2 lets you omit one set of () so it's 2 characters shorter < 1472178842 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best language for this? < 1472179043 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash is pretty good. < 1472179045 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i in {00..99}_; do echo -n $i; done < 1472179057 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... < 1472179077 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo {00..99} | sed 's/ /_/g' < 1472179099 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if you're okay with spaces instead of underscores, it's just... < 1472179103 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo {00..99} < 1472179142 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, lemme try perl < 1472179220 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1472179271 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: tr -d ' ' < 1472179325 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo {00..99}_|tr -d ' ' is the shortest I can come up with without spaces < 1472179330 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In bash < 1472179427 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is seq 00 99 considered correct? < 1472179448 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind, it doesn't pad < 1472179459 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding a format will be way too long < 1472179690 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble figuring out the perl version < 1472179772 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: str(x).zfill(2) == '%02d'%x for given range < 1472179814 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ,'_',.~(_2{.!.'0'":)"0 i.100 < 1472179814 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 00_01_02_03_04_05_06_07_08_09_10_11_12_13_14_15_16_17_18_19_20_21_22_23_24_25_26_27_28_29_30_31_32_33_34_35_36_37_38_39_40_41_42_43_44_45_46_47_48_49_50_51_52_53_54_55_56_57_58_59_60_61_62_63_64_65_66_67_68_69_70_71_72_73_74_75_76_77_78_79_80_81_82_83_84_85_86_87_88_89_90_91_92_93_94_95_96_97_98_99_ < 1472179831 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feels rather mediocre, honestly < 1472179849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has a trailing underscore < 1472179852 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: and ('_%02d'*100%tuple(range(100)))[1:] is shorter < 1472179857 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was intended < 1472179868 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I forgot about the formatting operator < 1472179869 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett's original line had one too < 1472179881 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: How about a Perl version? < 1472179888 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rught < 1472179894 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good at perl golfing :p < 1472179906 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :print '00'..'99'; is missing the _ =P < 1472180546 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :print map{s/$/_/r}'00'..'99' < 1472180547 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it < 1472180571 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone come up with a shorter perl version? < 1472180884 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472181054 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472181332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472181665 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472181735 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, little poll. < 1472181752 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm creating a database query tool. I'm thinking of naming it Catabase. < 1472181762 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of this name? < 1472181909 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472181922 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: next time try 'patabase < 1472182028 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1472183130 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is the first a short or long? < 1472183177 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Short. < 1472183184 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :catamountbase < 1472183719 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472183740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472183810 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472183821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472184464 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 612 seconds < 1472184594 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1472184858 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472185926 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472186342 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472186618 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pudtcimibqlkxcjr JOIN :#esoteric < 1472187731 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That kind of open protocol and game logic by server is also how I would design some multiplayer online game too such as a card game; in this case hard realtime is not as important. Time limits may be defined but you do not need so much precision < 1472188219 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472189839 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish customary units were better < 1472189925 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With words for things other than the simple stuff that people cared about in... huh, we don't know how old English Units (the parent of both Imperial and Customary units) are < 1472189938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were around during roman colonization in the 0s < 1472189987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow, the reason we still use Customary here is "Advocates of the customary system saw the French Revolutionary, or metric, system as atheistic." < 1472190044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, huh < 1472190063 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my keyboard, I HAVE TO PRESS shift to turn off capslock suddenly < 1472190065 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK < 1472190119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 furlong, 2 yards < 1472190648 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472190668 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472190783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does nobody use the metre-gram-second? < 1472190818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seconds are a bizarre unit. < 1472190947 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why? < 1472190950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.../dammit/ < 1472190966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472191033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, NFM < 1472191036 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*NVM < 1472191037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1472191072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How are seconds a bazaar unit? And how exactly do you "sell" a second in Mesopotamia? < 1472191263 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1472191275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When people petitioned the white house for a Metric implementation < 1472191299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The director of the NIST said that, since customary units were defined in the metric system, the nation is "bilingual" in terms of measurement systems. < 1472191311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use natural units. < 1472191329 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many planck lengths tall are you? < 1472191378 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about 1.143*10^35 planck lengths tall, personally. < 1472191389 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The natural unit of length is the smoot. < 1472191423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If we do that, we'll at the very least need to define units completely unrelated to planck in name that are always the same multiple of the natural version of what they measure < 1472191441 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I cannot argue that. < 1472191452 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has even walked that bridge before
< 1472191466 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But did you ever walk the planck? < 1472191472 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1472191561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for example, a brick (or whatever) is roughly 0.21765099999999998 kilograms < 1472191571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the argument is smoot. < 1472191671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If I were to propose a system for the US to use, there would be a unit called the toom that is about a smoot and hope nobody noticed) < 1472191696 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :our inability to objetively define mass is irritating < 1472191710 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also symptomatic of our general inability to comprehend gravity) < 1472191738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn about physics. < 1472191745 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you do let me know < 1472191748 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should too < 1472191771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we Americans are going to keep our isolationism, we need to stop using those obviously-metric "kilobytes" and "megabytes" and "gigabytes" < 1472191776 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is that physicists have a bizarre perspective on everything. < 1472191788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the most Customary-esque measurement of information? < 1472191799 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all americans on this blessed day < 1472191809 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information can be measured in semitones. < 1472191810 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, like on what is reasonable mathematics < 1472191814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in bels. < 1472191820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...august 25?) < 1472191852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/Bxmjwj0.png < 1472191854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The smallest unit would be 6 bits (called a "letter") < 1472191859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't've done that. < 1472191864 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The BTU per Rankine. < 1472191892 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII (which is the American Standard) is a 7-bit code < 1472191905 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But not all of ASCII is letters < 1472191924 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that unit has the same dimension as thermodynamic entropy. < 1472191979 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what? A letter is 5.70043 bits, not 6 < 1472192037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't entropy the negative of information? Or something like that? < 1472192099 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Thermodynamic entropy = (-1) * information theoretic entropy < 1472192103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A line is 50 letters, a page is 36 lines (though there's conflict; most government entities are supposed to use a 72 line page (as they assumed both sides), but common usage is 36) < 1472192131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I grabbed the nearest book and counted the lines on the page I had open) < 1472192218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what's a common unit of information? < 1472192218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1472192312 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common? The bit. < 1472192353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Common as in colloquial < 1472192367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: When explaining that there's a lot of data somewhere, what do you use for comparison? < 1472192396 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The KJV Bible? < 1472192400 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Sure < 1472192426 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searched "KJV bible length in characters". Received "9" < 1472192524 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1472192529 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "KJV bible" < 1472192532 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1472192693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most recent release of Ubuntu (64-bit desktop) is, if my torrent client is correct, 146503 page < 1472192720 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1472192724 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1]! < 1472192749 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: how have you been? < 1472192772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu < 1472192775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1472192802 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a 30 minute tele-conference with my company's competitor today :D < 1472192828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1472192829 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1472192837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you stealing trade secrets!? :) < 1472193362 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1472194665 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472195110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll try and get Congress to pass a law improving the Customary system; if we can't switch to metric, we can at least make it easier < 1472195183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define the metric prefixes (plus hella- and hello-) as acceptable modifiers of unit (so kilofoot and millipound are words that government organizations can use) < 1472195200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And add some new units that Metric already has single units for but Customary doesn't < 1472195438 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's no simple word for a Customary Newton or Pascal or any such thing) < 1472195466 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe even some shorthands for concepts (like speed and acceleration) < 1472195502 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the REAL reason I do this is for an evil purpose- it mixes in my system of naming, and establishes it as compulsory for marketing < 1472195508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for information) < 1472195837 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in United States, legal documents are already allowed to use metric. < 1472195843 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a law has already been passed. < 1472195927 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You don't have to use metric) < 1472195932 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The major issue is, in certain contexts you're not allowed to *exclusively* use metric. < 1472195971 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, packaging for food is generally not allowed to use metric exclusively. < 1472195984 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that is how it is. < 1472195986 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but is required to use metric in addition to US customary units) < 1472196005 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472196018 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it an issue? < 1472196024 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not really see much of a problem with that though. < 1472196033 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a huge one, except some manufacturers would like to stop caring. < 1472196057 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, there's no requirement that your goods be a round number of units in one system or another. < 1472196093 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So e.g. it's perfectly valid to sell 4L of milk, just so long as it's 4 L (135 fl oz) < 1472196239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( One hertz-second (Hz⋅s) is a useless unit... I wonder if we make stuff more confusing with it ) < 1472196545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best strategy to secure our borders and keep out ISIS trying to get in through Mexico is, in my opinion, to (1) help fix Mexico so it's not a shitty place to live that makes the US much more appealing (2) form a "North American Union" of sorts (NAU- like the EU) and (3) Impose strict regulations on travel into NAU member states, but travel between NAU member states is allowed and easy (but you don't necessarily get government < 1472196545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :benefits for the country you're in) < 1472196620 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: This is because you're thinking about effective policy, not racism. < 1472196627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ...Oh right < 1472196668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, if we get enough mixed-race couples then Mexicans and Whites will slowly become indistinguishable < 1472199647 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472200243 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472200986 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1472201144 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1472201155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to have a measurement along the lines of m^1/2? < 1472201295 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :eu has like 25 members < 1472201298 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nau would have 2 < 1472201305 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: 3 < 1472201312 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not north < 1472201315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1472201322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: canada < 1472201330 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada and us < 1472201336 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mexico isn't north < 1472201338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: And Mexico < 1472201344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Mexico is in North America < 1472201351 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1472201353 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 to 3 < 1472201358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :North America as opposed to South America < 1472201360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The continents < 1472201425 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the EU currently has 28 members < 1472201446 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that before or after brexit? < 1472201453 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before < 1472201474 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're seeing how long we can procrastinate brexit before everyone forgets about it < 1472201787 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was real Brexit-sad at Heathrow again when using the "UK and EU passports" lane. < 1472201804 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome fizzie < 1472201825 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the automatic ePassport gates refused to like my passport -- Brexit consequences manifesting in advance? < 1472201827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brazil is exiting?! < 1472201838 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The ones in Finland liked it just fine.) < 1472201928 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lizzie, < 1472201930 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1472201944 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I had that in Heathrow < 1472201954 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in Venice < 1472201966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what is the square root of a unit? What's sqrt(kg) or sqrt(s) or sqrt(m)? < 1472202110 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Apparently fracture toughness values are typically in units of MPa sqrt(m), as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fracture_toughness#Example_values < 1472202139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m^i < 1472202143 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show myself out < 1472202193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really just looking for a physical interpretation, if such a thing can possibly exist < 1472202812 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472204642 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472205688 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472206339 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is unexpected < 1472208614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49646&oldid=49164 5* 03Beta-Decay 5* (+336) 10 < 1472209351 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fourier14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49647&oldid=49646 5* 03Beta-Decay 5* (+0) 10 < 1472215533 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:a470:45f6:2c84:df73 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472218669 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a Nyuszi gondoskodott a vitaminról < 1472218670 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: too late to change design philosophy. it only teaches the new language < 1472218674 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, he's back! < 1472219767 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a lepke őt és mindhármukat én. < 1472219767 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and now he's going to switzerland to a winter solstice ritual in a " symbol", and you can rotate the picture in all 4 compass directions < 1472220297 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both racism and discrimination against the poor are stupid < 1472223321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472223634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr$72+29+9 < 1472223637 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'n' < 1472223645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr$72+29+7 < 1472223648 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'l' < 1472223654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1472223873 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:83.230.38.5810]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472223964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another legitimate anonymous edit caught in the filter :( < 1472224166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02User:Mtve10]]": Spam: Apparently no one noticed back in 2011 when this spam page was (re)created :P < 1472224300 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 the "polish" spammers stupidly respammed a page they'd managed to split by us - in 2011 :P < 1472224300 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472224317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 *slip, sheesh < 1472224317 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472224324 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472224430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dimensions14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49648&oldid=45598 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* Hello World! */ Anonymous legitimate edit caught by filter 9 < 1472224492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Somehow, filter 9 seems to cause more work :( < 1472224493 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472224763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also an earlier blocked edit which i don't know if is correct https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/6629 < 1472224861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:5.248.239.3210]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472225004 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 kiloHertz-seconds is just 10000 < 1472225093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1472226323 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~j@172.56.7.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472226343 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10000 what? < 1472226350 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a unit for non-dimensional constants < 1472226354 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the consistency < 1472226405 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~j@172.56.7.120 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472226427 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472226439 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone! < 1472226498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome icomefromSPACE73 < 1472226499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04icomefromSPACE73: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1472226524 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are we programming the universe here? < 1472226532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rarely < 1472226544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1472226545 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's fault is it that i'm on planet earth? < 1472226566 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how do i get my fusion drives working so i can get off this planet? < 1472226588 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mechanic died in plasma conduit malfunction < 1472226593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1472226599 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes.. < 1472226618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? space < 1472226619 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :space? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472226647 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right.. i come from a planet called Superion... it's awesome, i want to get back < 1472226684 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :healp mah < 1472226722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the book "The little Prince" has some advice at the end hth < 1472226755 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm does it show you how to fix a fusion drive? < 1472226779 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's too old to know about those. < 1472226800 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeesch.. well i like the burritos here so that's something < 1472226811 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cats.. they're cool < 1472226812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you could ask those ITER guys. < 1472226818 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITER? < 1472226823 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burrito < 1472226824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burritos are like Monads, according to Joe. See https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/ < 1472226838 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :icomefromSPACE73: earth's main fusion project hth < 1472226851 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1472226859 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does earth not already have fusion drives? < 1472226908 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. all our attempts to use fusion keep pushing back to 30 years in the future, somehow. < 1472226933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're pretty good with fission, though. < 1472226942 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472227185 0 :icomefromSPACE73!~ICOMEFROM@172.56.7.120 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472227253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn space/Humans come from space. In particular, the part of space that has Earth in it. < 1472227254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «space» < 1472227358 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is earth only the word for this planet in english? < 1472227372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered reverting that to make it start with "space", but it didn't feel right. < 1472227401 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i should think so. < 1472227438 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except perhaps english-based creoles < 1472227446 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: some science fiction refers to it as "Terra", but general english calls it "the earth" or "earth" < 1472227502 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in german there is "erde" which can be either the name of this planet or that brown stuff you plant plants in < 1472227516 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472227532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norwegian "Jorda" (or "jord" for the brown stuff) < 1472227598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those are all cognates) < 1472227606 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah, and some science fiction calls the sun "Sol" and the humans "terrans", see http://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/116820/4918 < 1472227679 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, I'm connected to eight different irc networks. again. < 1472227689 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy stuff < 1472227699 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on any but freenode, I only want to access very few channels < 1472227700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In its earliest appearances, eorðe was already being used to translate the many senses of Latin terra and Greek γῆ (gē): the ground,[n 9] its soil,[n 10] dry land,[n 11] the human world,[n 12] the surface of the world (including the sea),[n 13] and the globe itself.[n 14]" < 1472227801 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The earliest citation for "Terra" as a name for the planet Earth is from an 1871 lecture "Science & Revelation" by Robert Payne Smith: < 1472227878 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, relatively new term < 1472227922 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english, that is. < 1472227926 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, Terra fits in better with the Latin names we use for the other planets < 1472227942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the romans didn't consider it a planet. < 1472228012 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true,but still, you have these latinate names for the other planets, and then the odd one out is earth with its th sound < 1472228067 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the odd one out is Moon < 1472228094 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that too. Luna < 1472228172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Sun. < 1472228178 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sol < 1472228192 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the Solar System < 1472228256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian has it easy there, our word for sun is sol. < 1472228351 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A similar problem occurs in japanese where the other planets end in 星 (star) while earth is 地球 (dirt ball) < 1472228387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, the difference between "sun" and "sol" stem from PIE grammar - the word had different forms in different cases. < 1472228392 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stems < 1472228416 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppletive forms < 1472228421 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: hey, isn't that just japanese humility :P < 1472228477 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the also had to cram in neptune and uranus after the other planets used the five lements < 1472228510 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :天王星 sky king star 海王星 sea king star < 1472228527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the germanic, latin and greek words for "sun" seem to be cognate. < 1472228554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also russian, i recently learned) < 1472228595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: oh right, those other five elements, the ones in the Chinese system. I don't know how that system works. < 1472228696 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the moon's name seems to be different in all three < 1472228721 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mercury is water, venus is metal, mars is fire, jupiter is wood, and saturn is earth < 1472228778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :saturn is earth? those crazy chinese < 1472228792 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth star < 1472228805 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, soil star? < 1472228862 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :土星 < 1472228929 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sun is pretty crazy too: 太陽 (fat yang) < 1472228936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah < 1472228960 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know the classical alchemical correspondence: Sunday/Dimanche/Sun/gold, Monday/Lundi/Moon/silver, Tuesday/Mardi/Mars/iron, Wednesday/Mercredi/Mercury/mercury, Thursday/Jeudi/Jupiter/tin, Friday/Vendredi/Venus/copper, Saturday/Saturn/lead. Makes much more sense. < 1472228999 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: thes sort of used those for the days of the week in Japanese < 1472229028 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also an alchemical correspondence to basically any set of seven things you can think of, plus also any set of five or six or eight or nine or ten or eleven or twelve things just shoehorned on somehow. < 1472229058 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like thursday is wood-week-day < 1472229061 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the modern day, few do alchemy, so it's astrology that has to listen to these corespondences. < 1472229093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: which disney dwarf corresponds to which planet? < 1472229098 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say we should just cut out the roman gods and name the names of weeks from the classical metals in first places. < 1472229113 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then sunday is day-week-day and monday is moon-week-day < 1472229115 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.xkcd.com/1417/ < 1472229125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's what i was referring to < 1472229170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais.*obscure < 1472229170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1243) (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1472229202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack Zippy! < 1472229203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D < 1472229314 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the seven wonders and the hét honfoglaló vezér, of whom there are different contradictory lists of which seven, so very likely everyone is just fudging the lists to make sure it comes out to seven after the fact when they find out more. < 1472229403 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alexander, Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin < 1472229425 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Ramses whatever-his-number-was < 1472229502 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hét vezér in particular are either ((Álmos|Árpád), Előd, Ond, Kond, Tas, Huba, (Töhötöm|Tétény)) based on the list by Anonymus, or a completely different sounding list with some overlaps and family relationships with the previous one. < 1472229508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cannot say he's ever noticed lists of seven conquerors, anyway.
< 1472229522 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. they have to be hungarian. < 1472229550 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three primary sources giving three different lists, plus extra sources with no list but talking about some of the individual people. < 1472229594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe Mehmed 2(?) fits better. < 1472229669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :far too many conquerors in the world as a whole. < 1472230381 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven empires: British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, German, and Russian < 1472230401 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, those are the ones from Age Of Empire 2) < 1472230405 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, those are the ones from Age Of Empire 3) < 1472230438 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid fingers, stop typing the button bedide the one I want < 1472230467 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :age of empires also has the ottomans but they suck < 1472230571 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres also the "group of seven" canadian painters < 1472231233 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472231387 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, git cloning the zem.fi hill is broken again < 1472231387 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi < 1472232512 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurbl. I thought I fixed that. < 1472232586 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I just thought about it. < 1472232682 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did fix that thing that was previously wrong (not running git update-server-info in the post-update hook). < 1472232778 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even find the URL you're supposed to clone any more. < 1472232863 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently https://zem.fi/bfjoust/hill.git/ and cloning it seemed to work now. < 1472232884 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I made the mistake of manually running update-server-info, so if it was broken before that, I have no way of knowing. < 1472233307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: pedially running < 1472233541 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust meowmeowmeow < < 1472233541 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.meowmeowmeow: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1472233557 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work < 1472234043 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. Looks like the same problem of not auto-running that thing, but I have no idea why. < 1472234084 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh. < 1472234112 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust how_about_now <>< < 1472234112 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie.how_about_now: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1472234127 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's fixed. < 1472234144 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, though, "it doesn't work" is a horrible bug report. < 1472234154 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please clearly state expected and actual behaviour. < 1472234301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472234708 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that program looks a bit fishy < 1472234949 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472235189 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You're just carping. < 1472235215 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust meow :3 <( meow! ) < 1472235216 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.meow: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1472235234 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472235271 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The food chain in action. < 1472235569 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric : In other news, though, "it doesn't work" is a horrible bug report. < 1472235570 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please clearly state expected and actual behaviour. < 1472235573 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expected behavior: It works < 1472235577 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual behavior: It doesn't work < 1472235969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472236036 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472236235 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expected behaviour: it behaves as expected. < 1472236251 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386b:eb7d:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472236258 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual behaviour: it behaves in an unexpected manner. < 1472236404 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, it's working as intended. < 1472236862 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do british people who move to France have to refit their cars with a steering wheel on the other side? < 1472236863 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a simple way to forge the reply-to message-ID in Heirloom-Mailx? < 1472236920 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, I don't think so < 1472237079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that I can reply to messages that I have not received. < 1472237235 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:386b:eb7d:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472237668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472237829 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472237969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472238451 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is kg^-1... the measurement of percentage? So U-235 has a value 0.0072 kg^-1 in pure uranium? < 1472238628 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, How computationally expensive is markov scoring? < 1472238643 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it unreasonable to try and compute it on ~9000 programs < 1472239015 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the floor inside of the boat they should add a compass with aft/fore/port/starboard so that you can know which way to go inside of the ship. Some of the boats can go in either direction, so in that case, to add lights on the wall inside to tell you which way. < 1472239311 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My english teacher this year is scow < 1472239314 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prescriptivist scum < 1472239364 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For English as a foreign language, I think that would be preferable < 1472239382 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Everybody in this class speaks english as a first language < 1472239389 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1472239523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you prefer the American teacher? < 1472240461 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :English class in Canada is a mixture of prescriptivism to high class dialect, literature studies on Canadian authors, and political propaganda. < 1472240624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and shakespeare, lots of shakespear < 1472240678 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta shake that spear < 1472240919 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472240948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472241201 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He also said that the singular they isn't a thing (on the grounds that languages change... and nobody uses it any more? Not even the solid 80% of English speakers who use it regularly without even thinking about it?) < 1472241231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"adjective" is pronounced without the c sound (bullshit; that isn't even an archaic pronunciation, it just isn't a real thing) < 1472241298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "dream" (the kind that happens while you sleep), "think", "ponder", and "imagine" are all synonyms (even if the connotations may be different, he says they're all exactly the same word) < 1472241360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "seventh" in "seventh graders" is an adjective- when I tried to point out that you'd be looked at like you were crazy if you just said "graders", he said that "graders" (as in "people who grade papers") means that isn't true < 1472241367 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though that's clearly an entirely different meaning < 1472241384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :("seventh graders" aren't a type of "grader") < 1472241864 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472241918 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yep, that's the high school experience all right < 1472241933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can somebody get me the link to the comic 2 before http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/you-are-loved < 1472241946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one immediately before includes the word "fetish" so my school blocks it because bullshit < 1472241952 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/adam39s-rib < 1472242224 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:40a4:c0af:1121:2f1a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472242306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote reasonable < 1472242307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :112) Some people are reasonable, some people who are not reasonable insist on changing things so therefore progress depends on not reasonablepeple \ 529) One reasonable approach for the image->color case could be to take the mean (possibly in the RGB space, it doesn't have the hue discontinuity problem) of the most likely Gaussian < 1472242331 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 529 < 1472242331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :529) One reasonable approach for the image->color case could be to take the mean (possibly in the RGB space, it doesn't have the hue discontinuity problem) of the most likely Gaussian distribution to have yielded the image pixels, considering each pixel as an independent sample. Wait, that'd just be the mean. Never mind. < 1472242339 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472242450 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mean < 1472242451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 58) Warrigal: what do you mean by 21? \ 69) so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? \ 121) i think of languages as tools, < 1472242509 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: I also dislike teachers that try to use the student's yet ignorance and trust to tell their style preferences as if they were rules or accepted best practices. I wasn't too much scarred from them, because I'm always a self-learner who prefers to learn from books over presentations, but still, I dislike it by principle. < 1472242537 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote mean | sed -e 's/\(^[^)]*\)).*/\1/' < 1472242538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 \ 58 \ 69 \ 121 \ 154 \ 184 \ 193 \ 234 \ 250 \ 286 \ 326 \ 331 \ 351 \ 353 \ 366 \ 451 \ 477 \ 491 \ 500 \ 529 \ 536 \ 567 \ 626 \ 639 \ 644 \ 666 \ 703 \ 733 \ 760 \ 781 \ 819 \ 840 \ 860 \ 866 \ 904 \ 963 \ 975 \ 1046 \ 1056 \ 1058 \ 1091 \ 1106 \ 1139 \ 1189 \ 1261 \ 1279 < 1472242538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yep < 1472242550 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind people forming their own preferred style, or even teaching them as a starting point, but they should always make it clear which parts are generally accepted rules and which are just their preferences. < 1472242557 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it worked first try! yay < 1472242587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Like teachers saying the Oxford comma is always right or always wrong, with no mention that it's rather debated at the moment? < 1472242589 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 121 < 1472242589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :121) i think of languages as tools, there is no holy grail of languages even if there's no holy grail, that doesn't mean cups of crap is ok < 1472242598 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 154 < 1472242599 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :154) How much do mainframes cost these days? I mean, they're obsoleteish, right? My notebook's much more powerful? So surely, they're cheap? < 1472242641 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I prefer no commas in those cases < 1472242650 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: As in, none at all? < 1472242654 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate bread eggs and milk for breakfasr < 1472242663 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472242681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I was originally taught to not use the oxford comma, but when I learned that it's actually not just an absolute rule I decided that it should be used < 1472242857 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for punctuation, Hungarian has very different and strict and simple rules for where to use comma (or other punctuation, as in colon or semicolon or dash or parenthesis). One of the important differences is that Hungarian always has punctuation between any two subclause. (That isn't the only rule, there are commas in other places too.) < 1472242884 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not *using* those rules for English, but I'm sometimes sort of influenced by them, and I probably use somewhat strange and unusual rules in English. < 1472242952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472242981 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric : The one immediately before includes the word "fetish" so my school blocks it because bullshit < 1472242994 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is when you pull out all the web filter bypass techneques. < 1472243044 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just use your phone < 1472243048 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: oh by the way, do they also block all urls matching /ad/ for ad-blocking? < 1472243056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I think I've seen that filter < 1472243169 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472243185 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some esolangs are based on PNG < 1472243202 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there no supporters of the EPNG format? https://gist.github.com/SoniEx2/60a025d5901f67b2e549dca4a0ba7d46 < 1472243230 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically a PNG extension, not a format) < 1472243271 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, oh why, did not i take the blue Pill? < 1472243316 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please support EPNG ^^ < 1472243326 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1472243341 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do minecraft command blocks count as an esoteric programming language? < 1472243362 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: yes < 1472243370 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1472243378 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like OTTD signals < 1472243410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472243412 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: you can program them, but it's kind of hard because they weren't really designed for that. < 1472243432 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh ok < 1472243461 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, some of the redstone logic stuff was *probably* added with the intent that geeks program it, but not for the complicated projects some people use them. < 1472243464 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's debatable. < 1472243471 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not as esoteric as dwarf fortress I guess. < 1472243511 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I basically once programmed a whole (music) tracker using command blocks https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/wireless-note-block-song-player < 1472243537 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's sort of like TeX, which Knuth designed to be programmable, but not really to be easy to write general programs in, and many of the hacks he and other people wrote in it abuse the language way more than it was intended. < 1472243555 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX... heh < 1472243571 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't someone make an ATeXMel or something? < 1472243645 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this https://gitlab.brokenpipe.de/stettberger/avremu/tree/master#README < 1472243645 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49649&oldid=49177 5* 03Tripl3dogdare 5* (+15) 10/* S */ < 1472243646 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472243692 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that since 1.8 Minecraft sans command blocks is TC < 1472243716 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, 1.8 added slime blocks right? < 1472243720 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1472243737 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1472243751 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reckon you can use slime block flying machines as registers for a Minsky machine < 1472243769 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With players carried to keep the chunks loaded < 1472243774 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you can simulate protein folding with slimeblocks < 1472243795 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel like trying tho < 1472243918 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me either < 1472244549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-80.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472244867 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wish I understood how to design Minecraft flying machines, though < 1472245097 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm there should be a multiplayer dwarf fortress < 1472245270 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Google famously computes it for the Internet (as in, it's more or less like PageRank), so doing 9000 programs shouldn't be impossible. Done the iterative way, it's just a matter of repeatedly multiplying a vector by a 9000x9000 matrix (which I assume should be a quadratic operation), stopping when you're converged enough. < 1472245283 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bceuspsatvyuresd QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472245299 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472245335 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tegxfaacgefisqgp QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472245388 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:40a4:c0af:1121:2f1a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472245918 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do TeX programming too < 1472246059 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: do you count it as an esolang when you do that? < 1472246073 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little bit < 1472246355 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, *shrug* < 1472246363 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it's not O(n^3) or something < 1472246369 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n^2) matchups between programs is nasty enough < 1472246541 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of the esoteric features I find strange in TeX and Metafont might not have been unusual back at that time, they only seem unusual now: < 1472246575 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, those languages have rules such that they really can't be compiled, only interpreted as token strings at runtime, because how the token things are parsed can change at runtime. That doesn't cause a problem in normal programs where you don't abuse that, but it also always makes it possible to write obfuscations. < 1472246612 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now clearly that's not how people make programming languages now, because people want to be able to analyze and optimize and compile programs. But back then, it was normal, at least APL was like that, probably more. < 1472246660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is also one of those < 1472246669 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: no, not really < 1472246690 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: in perl, more or less every subroutine is compiled to a clean op-tree once. < 1472246727 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in APL or Metafont or TeX, everything is left as a token string, and which part of the token string are functions that act on which other parts is decided dynamically and may change at runtime depending on how variables are assigned < 1472246812 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But most languages aren't like that, they can be compiled to at least optrees, even the old languages like algol, fortran, smalltalk, basic, and some variants of lisp (but not emacs lisp). < 1472246832 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472246917 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in perl, you can compile a function at runtime, but once you compile it, the interpreter knows from the optree which words are functions and which are barewords and what are variables and what the precedence and calls are etc. Compiling each function can happen somewhat late, because you routinely run perl code in BEGIN blocks before other < 1472246917 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :code gets compiled (unlike ruby). < 1472246954 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even in perl, you don't usually get functions recompiled again and again. There are only a few mechanisms for that, like eval, or abusing do-file, or s///e, or starting a new perl interpreter, etc. < 1472246957 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472246969 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like you have to keep everything a token string. < 1472247139 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472247407 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472247673 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-kpwrtoucyldiiykb QUIT :Excess Flood < 1472247728 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qfofclfrrkbsqilj JOIN :#esoteric < 1472247796 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472247831 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-qfofclfrrkbsqilj QUIT :Excess Flood < 1472248034 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pkudtmmkyymglvla JOIN :#esoteric < 1472248088 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-mftejvahxbogwkld JOIN :#esoteric < 1472248327 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbsekkoktsimhjmc JOIN :#esoteric < 1472248384 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472248587 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472248768 0 :byteflame!~byteflame@70-89-65-45-little-rock-ar.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472248774 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472248791 0 :Guest61991!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472248870 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472248972 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tamper with the category codes in TeX to parse some other kinds of files, is also one thing that can be done. < 1472249051 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, some people do strange things in TeX. Sometimes I don't understand why they try to stick to pure TeX instead of delegating some task to non-TeX programs. < 1472249073 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-mftejvahxbogwkld QUIT :Excess Flood < 1472249084 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use the best tool for each task, and that often means mixing multiple languages. That's no problem. Good languages are meant to interoprate with other languages in various ways. < 1472249084 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also stuff that can be done with \uppercase and \lowercase and one thing I have done with this is the ability to output binary specials rather than only ASCII text in specials. < 1472249145 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, those are magical, sometimes people use them (and \roman I think) for things where they don't even need to translate characters, they just use it for the strange side effects on the TeX mouth that you can't get otherwise or something. < 1472249151 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really understand how it works. < 1472249155 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I understand metafont even less.) < 1472249172 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472249196 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One advantage to write purely in TeX is that you do not need another program; TeX is designed to be the same on all computers, so the program will work everywhere (the possible exception is an out of memory error, but that's all). < 1472249214 0 :Guest61991!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472249265 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use \romannumeral-` to get rid of a } that follows < 1472249266 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, but I can also write other programs that are more or less portable, and also, I can distribute the intermediate results (like an index of a book) that you can then TeX on your own computer. < 1472249341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that yes. Although, I have also made the program entirely in TeX to make the index, too. < 1472249342 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472249359 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have made many considerations to reduce the amount of memory each index entry takes up.) < 1472249466 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I often use is things like this: \def\ecall#1{\begingroup\edef\next{\endgroup#1}\next} < 1472249554 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stuff built-in to Plain TeX that defines \next for a temporary purpose can interfere with other uses of \next; my way does not cause this interference. < 1472249577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer writing things in C that generate HTML < 1472249595 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, can't you just use some other token than \next instead then? < 1472249598 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can work if you are trying to make HTML < 1472249623 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: But if they are multiple uses of the same command, that won't work; they will interfere with itself. < 1472249744 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of feel that other software is finally catching up to TeX in the typography and math formula typography aspect, so maybe in another decade we'll no longer need to use TeX for anything, and won't need to deal with the language part that comes with it. < 1472249802 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still prefer TeX over much of the new stuff anyways. < 1472249805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like how I finally no longer need to depend on libraries written in fortran to do numerical computation stuff, because the newer software has caught up with the huge advantage that the numeric libraries written in fortran had < 1472249823 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the fortran libraries got sort of obsolate because they weren't written with modern cpu and caching in mind). < 1472249844 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right now, sure. I'm saying I think it will happen in like a decade. The software haven't quite caught up with TeX yet. < 1472249876 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, all the technology is replicated, but they're not put together to good usable tools for all tasks yet.) < 1472249981 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not like TeX another alternative is troff, which has its own output format but it can convert to DVI (as well as other formats, such as man page view). < 1472250025 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't he "modern" answer to TeX .pdf and WYSIWYG editors anyway < 1472250048 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like PDF and WYSIWYG and I think TeX does it better than those anyways. < 1472250067 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One feature of TeX I really like is custom output routines; I don't know what others will do such thing. < 1472250079 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: no, I don't think so. I like pdf, but it's not the wysiwig editors that I'm missing, I'm not that sort of gui guy really. < 1472250097 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :My technical writing classmates can't make something look pretty in a WYSIWYG editor. < 1472250106 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt they can get TeX to output anything at all. < 1472250134 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: oh sure, some people make crap with any tool, and they don't care what anything look like. that's not really my problem. < 1472250140 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not working for them. < 1472250142 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1472250230 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, I'd like to have access to all the modern infrastructure with fonts and unicode and alternate glyphs and stuff, and it's sort of incompatible with TeX, as in, neither can you use all features of Metafont fonts in modern stuff, nor can you use all features of new text rendering infrastructure in TeX. < 1472250238 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472250250 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably just use some sort of gui editor if I needed to typeset something. < 1472250253 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think eventually (in a decade) you just won't need TeX, because the modern stuff will take all the good features. < 1472250260 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better iteration time for messing with layout and such. < 1472250264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: sure, and gui editors do exist, and they will get better. < 1472250276 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I need to autogenerate something from code, I guess. < 1472250285 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a use case for TeX-type stuff still. < 1472250294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need both gui editors and programmability, and they need to interoperate, but we have a lot of that already (for non-TeX stuff) < 1472250367 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the gui editors (including the MS office, mind you) take the appearance part of LaTeX syntax, like, you enter formula as \frac{\varphi}{2}, simply because many mathematicians do that. They don't really run any sort of TeX, just steal the names and the outward appearance of the syntax, < 1472250385 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathml? < 1472250403 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1472250407 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like how javascript and lots of other languages steal some bits of C syntax, like the spelling of operators and the control statements. < 1472250464 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: IMO mathml is not a source format. It is a representation format, which you should sort of compare to DVI or PDF, only the viewer can change a lot of things with it (varying page size and fonts and font size etc) which makes sense because readers now use browsers instead of paper journals. < 1472250497 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mathml is a good thing, and I wish more browsers would support it well. < 1472250506 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at this file http://zzo38computer.org/barps/main.tex to see some of the stuff that is done, to resolve cross-references and create a table of contents and index without needing to run it twice or use an external program for these things. One thing it does not currently do is to output SQL although I intend to later make it to also output SQL to another file. < 1472250510 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least as far as I've seen it. I don't know too much about it. < 1472250524 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: scary < 1472250532 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you actually have to run it only once? < 1472250538 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not, like run it a constant number of times? < 1472250556 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, even if I want the table of contents on the front? do I have to rearrange the pages of the dvi later? < 1472250576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've sliced and catenated dvi pages once. No problem. Just asking how this works.) < 1472250596 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe it was PDF pages? I dunno.) < 1472250681 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you only have to run it once to create the output. < 1472250695 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The table of contents is already on the front. < 1472250702 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1472250712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you will get the table of contents on the front even if you only run it once. < 1472250729 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you'll get the rest of the document too? < 1472250756 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, as well as an auto-generated auto-sorted index, with all cross-references (both backward and forward) resolved. < 1472250799 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that even theoretically impossible? < 1472250881 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, a page number in a cross-reference can change form 99 to 100 which is wider and that could affect page breaks and page numbers later so you have to find a fixed point for cross-references (which might not even exist in really pathological cases). < 1472251052 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it is unlikely. There are ways to deal with that if needed though. < 1472251097 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest meow (>)*9((+)*15[-]>)*4([>{((+)*15[-]>)*-1}])%3 < 1472251098 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.meow: points -25.31, score 5.03, rank 47/47 (--) < 1472251101 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you can always just tweak the document a little manually if there's no fixed point, and in practice you usually hit a fixed point the third iteration. < 1472251107 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest meow ++(>)*9((+)*15[-]>)*4([>{((+)*15[-]>)*-1}])%3 < 1472251108 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.meow: points -26.00, score 6.05, rank 47/47 (--) < 1472251123 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest meow ++(>)*9((+)*15[-]>)*-1 < 1472251124 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia.meow: points -23.24, score 11.99, rank 26/47 (+21) < 1472251135 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiseki definitely effs up the ladder. :D < 1472251191 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you want a nice-looking document, then there are tons of other things that you may have to tweak manually to improve the looks and that you can't predict until after you render and look. < 1472251214 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472251313 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, yes, doing that in one run of TeX is impressive, even if it's sort of an esoteric goal. < 1472251521 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, some of my CGI is still in sh, I should convert it to C < 1472251558 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472251727 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes an external file is used to store cross references, but this won't work if the page is not being shipped out and also may cause problems with interpreting the output as input differently (although sometimes, you would want that), so what I did is to add an insertion class, and put into the insertion, marks and penalties interleaved, and then use \vsplit to extract the marks. < 1472251729 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely certain that doing CGI in C is safer, or even faster, but it does put the C back into it. < 1472251764 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This can also be used to substitute for multiple classes of marks if you need that feature.) < 1472251994 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472252512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472252866 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've now reimplemented the allfiles.htm in C < 1472252930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/listall.c.htm < 1472252980 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see < 1472253050 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/listall.sh.htm is the original in sh < 1472253075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472253266 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cgi < 1472253267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cgi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472253306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minpoijjikop < 1472253306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minpoijjikop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472253315 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472253366 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472253394 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472253432 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn cgi/CGI stands for uh... C, goblin, interface? < 1472253433 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «cgi» < 1472253550 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wob < 1472253551 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472253556 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wob_jonas < 1472253556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472253602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wob_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks. < 1472253604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wob_jona': wob_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks. < 1472253624 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b_jonas < 1472253625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas egy nagyon titokzatos személy. Hollétéről egyelőre nem ismertek. < 1472253679 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common Gateway Interface if you must know < 1472253726 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah what a meaningless acronym < 1472253802 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be "RPFWR" running programs for web responses < 1472254005 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame that CGI is designed such that it's often not practical to e.g. pass the file descriptor for the connection to the CGI program. < 1472254050 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric : web.minpoijjikop: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-44) < 1472254051 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind, that's the least of CGI's issues. < 1472254066 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a program named minpoijjikop a long time ago. It turned out to be... I think margins3 with random characters removed. < 1472254071 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess someone decided to kill it. < 1472254094 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, okay. Issues if you're concerned about maximally simple implementation. It's really not an issue if you don't mind a mild complexity bump and don't mind the inefficiency of CGI, anyways.) < 1472254128 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contente generaté interactifemente, it's French < 1472254149 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: I do not know French, at all) < 1472254224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should web programs work? < 1472254392 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The web is scow. Complex apps on the web should be done via a simple bytecode spec with sandboxed implementation. ("simple" as in "you can easily *prove* your sandbox's security guarantees") < 1472254411 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric : How should web programs work? < 1472254417 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a way that doesn't involve C. < 1472254443 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, too late for that. < 1472254487 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for web development purposes, there's stuff like Scala.js or Coffeescript or whatever. < 1472254496 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you don't have to use Javascript. < 1472254717 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust  < < 1472254717 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Program name () is restricted to characters in [a-zA-Z0-9_-], sorry. < 1472254804 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust < < 1472254804 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: "!zjoust progname code". See http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for documentation. < 1472254901 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a little confusing. < 1472254963 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472254990 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472254994 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472255017 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does a message.split(' ', 3) to split it into (command, name, code) triplet. < 1472255100 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then verifies that the name doesn't contain anything outside that set and is at most 48 characters long (wonder where that number came from). < 1472255306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472255437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Word of the day: Monopolyamorous < 1472255458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get to sleep with lots of people, but they can only ever sleep with you < 1472255472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, you're always the giver, they're always the receiver) < 1472255509 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :eew < 1472255521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "The Giver" (the Lois Lowry book) just got a lot sleazier ) < 1472255553 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you mean that wasn't thinly veiled yaoi? < 1472255621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I would say "yes", but now that you mention it I'm not sure < 1472255676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you were to edit the giver to be much more vague about how memories are passed, it would definitely be thinly veiled yaoi, with an appetizer of Paedophilia and a side of May-December) < 1472255737 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the ladder, yeah, I'm not sure what to do about the Kiseki Problem. I like that a proof-of-concept thing like that exists and is somehow acknowledged to, but on the other hand it does quite a job on the scores. I could just manually remove it, but that's not particularly elegant either. And I don't think I'm up for doing any sort of particularly elaborate restructuring, like multiple hills ... < 1472255743 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or whatnot. < 1472255845 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on it < 1472255856 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it actually works on unknown programs somewhat too. :V < 1472255878 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think I want the zemhill repo for < 1472256092 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472256099 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472256204 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbsekkoktsimhjmc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472256328 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: Read every book in http://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/classics < 1472256480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of those books are good. < 1472256503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that Fahrenheit 451 is on http://www.ala.org/bbooks/top-100-bannedchallenged-books-2000-2009 (or really on any banned/challenged book list at all) is just an embarrassment to the human race < 1472256543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I think 50 Shades of Grey should be part of the curriculum in English classes < 1472256553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, as an example of bad writing < 1472256555 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an example of how not to write? < 1472256558 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :^5 < 1472256588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad writing? < 1472256600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read it. < 1472256607 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1472256627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 50 shades of grey is the most terribly-written book known to man < 1472256635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's literally bad twilight fanfiction with the names changed < 1472256636 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it's modified Twilight fan fiction, and the writing quality is... about what you'd expect of that. < 1472256649 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say it's the most terribly-written book known to man, because it's not. < 1472256653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found the website for my school library < 1472256661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm pretty sure it is < 1472256672 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should read more, then. < 1472256677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Far better books than it aren't even published because they're so terrible < 1472256698 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a wikispace, and it is an attrocious website < 1472256741 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a bunch of picture-links to resources with absolutely no organization < 1472256747 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't really mean much though. Particularly as the reason it got formally published has nothing to do with its assessed quality. < 1472256752 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good book I haven't read? < 1472256756 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was initially *self* published. < 1472256762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What books have you read? < 1472256766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few. < 1472256770 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A book publisher picked it up because it was fairly successful after that. < 1472256794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The Cthulhu Mythos is pretty good, but it's more a bunch of short stories than one big book < 1472256821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd put a link to the library website here, but that would give people which high school I go to < 1472256824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though to be fair < 1472256829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people can guess. < 1472256831 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you already have my address? < 1472256845 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read 50 shades < 1472256850 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But quite honestly, it can't possibly be considered worse than Atlanta Nights (by Travis Tea). < 1472256856 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it worse than My Immortal? < 1472256885 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked out the website of my former high school, and it's now an IIS7 "Welcome" page. < 1472256897 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a rule that everyone I know can give me one book recommendation, which I'll read with an SLA. < 1472256900 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472256970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, my school library has a copy of Mein Kampf < 1472256987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the question < 1472256987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master. < 1472257001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep 'body weigh' wisdom quotes < 1472257002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes: btw, ^v, what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? <^v> 300 and USA nice to see that ^v is keeping with the spirit of the channel by providing completely useless answers to the question. < 1472257011 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I can't place a hold because I don't know how to log in < 1472257020 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that they nowadays have an actual second-level .fi domain, instead of being a fourth-level domain. < 1472257105 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a section for the library, but I guess not a database thingie, just a manually updated list of new acquisitions and periodicals. < 1472257217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow < 1472257228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked the wikipedia pages for John and Hank green < 1472257248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :John is 39, full name John Michael Green < 1472257257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hank is 36, full name William Henry Green II < 1472257284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... wait < 1472257295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1472257316 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their father isn't named William (or, for that matter, Henry. He's named Mike, in fact) < 1472257329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why is Hank a II? < 1472257334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. what happened after Thor threw lightning at his father Odin? < 1472257338 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is II different from jr? < 1472257341 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472257361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think boilies idling < 1472257386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb knows the kings of England, so he can probaly tell you. < 1472257387 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( What is the plural of boily? )
< 1472257427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: idling is evil. banish idling now. < 1472257441 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think you can be a II if you're reusing a name from a non-immediate ancestor. < 1472257444 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wasn't ais523 idling the other day? < 1472257448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, define idling < 1472257475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's named after Eric Idle. < 1472257476 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppavilion[1] for horrendous possessive formation above
< 1472257488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah. non-immediate as in not parent, or non-immediate as in not any tier of n-parent? < 1472257509 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "boily's idling" wouldn't be possessive < 1472257514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a contraction < 1472257519 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1472257528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if anything, I get swatted for inability to use contractions, not possessives < 1472257531 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats himself -----###
< 1472257531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England was James II in England and Ireland, and James VII in Scotland. < 1472257545 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, yes < 1472257548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's incorrect in any case < 1472257560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or is it < 1472257562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prescriptivist < 1472257572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're like what's-his-name's english teacher < 1472257589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what's-his-name hth < 1472257604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: his name is hppavilion[1] < 1472257621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if boily misses this it will be the second time in recent memory. i may have to stop greeting him. < 1472257628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNACCEPTABLE < 1472257642 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1472257652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can accept it hth < 1472257656 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh there you are boily < 1472257661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you know my address? < 1472257675 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! no, I do not. < 1472257681 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472257684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you did < 1472257696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you know my approximate geographical coördinates and body weigh? < 1472257716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's well-known which city hppavilion[1] is in. < 1472257725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least which airport hppavilion[1] is near. < 1472257732 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, was boily the one who knows where everybody lives? I'm pretty sure e is, but not certain) < 1472257737 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, right, you know my airport < 1472257743 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know that, you can figure out my school < 1472257754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PANC < 1472257755 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PANC 262253Z VRB06KT 10SM SCT024 BKN200 17/13 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP222 T01720133 < 1472257758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's the library link: http://easthighlibrary.wikispaces.com/ < 1472257759 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: *cough* < 1472257760 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1472257761 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 262253Z 29007KT 10SM FEW020 22/14 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP137 T02220144 < 1472257795 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1472257796 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 262320Z AUTO 35002KT 9999 NCD 17/10 Q1020 NOSIG < 1472257800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KORD < 1472257801 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORD 262251Z 07008KT 10SM SCT150 BKN200 BKN250 24/16 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP194 T02440156 < 1472257803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was 30+ just the other day. < 1472257806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KPHX < 1472257806 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPHX 262251Z 06007KT 10SM SCT090 SCT120 BKN250 36/12 A2982 RMK AO2 SLP076 CB DSNT SE T03610122 < 1472257810 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absurd as usual. < 1472257848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows phoenixes like it hot < 1472257914 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only steamy but burning hot, eh? < 1472257914 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, clearly < 1472257921 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solution to prevent kiseki from messing up the hill < 1472257926 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :set up a script to auto-update it. < 1472257948 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, who is the current brainfuck hill-billy? < 1472257959 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck!? < 1472257969 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could ANYBODY try to get A Wrinkle in Time banned!? < 1472257977 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick one: < 1472257981 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Religion < 1472257982 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Bigotry < 1472257993 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explains 95% of banned lists probably < 1472258004 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: arent those two synonyms for each other? < 1472258019 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Example of bigotry < 1472258031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Wrinkle in Time was pretty religiously flavored, as i vaguely recall. < 1472258042 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone probably didn't like the theology. < 1472258091 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it was < 1472258103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a really bizarre book, in my memory < 1472258127 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472258154 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sings under his breath "Barnatrúnni er ég löngu búinn að gleyma..." ("Childish-religion|-faith|-belief have I long forgotten.." is probably a close English translation)
< 1472258173 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :religious sci-fi/fantasy, essentially. < 1472258181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the hunger games has religion? < 1472258206 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Oooh, what language? < 1472258212 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Icelandic < 1472258220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :/ < 1472258227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian is the icelandic i thought i remembered yesterday < 1472258236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: What's it called? < 1472258272 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it is a verse from a lyrics of a song written by Megas. < 1472258287 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1472258291 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the webcomic SSSS been linked in here? < 1472258302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guitarparty.com/is/song/thu-bidur-allavegana-eftir-mer/ < 1472258305 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: good tune and lyrics composer. Nothing special as a singer. < 1472258330 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Twice per my logs. < 1472258343 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=195 (by me) and http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=479 (by int-e). < 1472258354 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472258355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I read it. Svo margt sem stingur rökfræðilega séð með hverning íslendingar myndu bregðast við. < 1472258361 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking a lot of people in here might enjoy it < 1472258390 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked the former just because it described Finnish as "absolute gibberish". < 1472258395 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also cats. < 1472258401 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel bad for having to run that through google translate, Zarutian :( < 1472258416 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lol, it (obviously incorrectly) translated íslendingar as "americans" < 1472258426 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "American people" rather < 1472258464 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what does "baby talk c1823" mean? < 1472258467 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the funny thing that there are quite a few Icelanders working for Google. Yet the translation provided by Google Translate is still pretty inaccurate < 1472258480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, c = circa, I think < 1472258489 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells many of them aren't working in Mountain View. < 1472258496 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the Icelandic office(s) aren't working on GT then < 1472258502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ Har du kvar din barnatro ifrån hemmets lugna bo ♫ < 1472258520 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a bunch of us Finns at Google as well, and Translate's not so hot for Finnish either. < 1472258539 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish TTS recently got a new voice, though. < 1472258554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Dammit, this is going to be one of those really good ones that I'll have to keep reading, isn't it? < 1472258573 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefly: GT uses statsticall models learned by seeing two versions of the same text. Problem is that often English text written by Icelanders is nothing like Icelandic text in structure. < 1472258579 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: All I can say is I keep reading it. There's a bunch of backstory though. < 1472258585 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472258613 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's really good, lots of story for sure < 1472258690 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1472258690 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 262300Z 24004KT 30SM SCT210 OVC250 25/13 A2983 RMK CI3CS5 SLP104 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1472258708 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and it applies to stylometry too. One research on such had an interactive page where you answer questions regarding word use. I got 'Ebonics' when I actuality I was trying for Neuromancer Sprawlese < 1472258735 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, is http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=195 accurate to the real world or is in-universe backstory? < 1472258759 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's accurate in real life too < 1472258764 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472258764 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pkudtmmkyymglvla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472258771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472258782 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It neglects to mention that spoken Danish sounds like spoken Swedish with a potato in mouth. < 1472258785 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But other than that, sture. < 1472258797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzle: so damn true it hurts < 1472258801 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/st/s/ < 1472258808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...OK Denmark (daneland?) < 1472258819 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are the maps you'll see, in that the names and positions of cities and other landmarks are accurate < 1472258822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your word for "island" is just ø < 1472258824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1472258833 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1472258864 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a number of Finnish islands named "ö". < 1472258870 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a swedish sort of poem/short story written in dialectal swedish that contains the sentence fragment 'å i åa ä e ö' < 1472258879 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that number's a large number. < 1472258881 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Dumt_fôlk < 1472258887 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in Icelandic it is eyja. But for islands having names they have the -ey suffix < 1472258896 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yes, Stand Still Stay Silent is fantastic. < 1472258905 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Markets are too good < 1472258915 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1472258919 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: reminds me of "á á á á" which is actually an proper sentence < 1472258922 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "å" is Swedish for river, as well. < 1472258923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HireFly < 1472258951 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"å i åa ä e ö" "och i ån är en ö" "and in the river there's an island" < 1472258952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe pikhq will make it happen. < 1472258973 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizze: pronounced like au in Shaun? so it is not much diffrent from á? < 1472258976 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dialectal, standard swedish, english) < 1472258992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Police police police police police police police police police police police police police police < 1472259019 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :police police police < 1472259034 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pooch police < 1472259034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, sure < 1472259039 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: I guess. It's the IPA /o/. < 1472259045 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maudits sites coréens de pas foutus de marcher sur le sens du monde que je me suis repris à je sais pas combien de fois pour booker juste un ***** de vol intérieur tsé veut dire messemble c'est pas compliqué AAAAAAAAAAARGH! < 1472259053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo < 1472259062 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(finally managed to book a domestic flight. fungot dammit was it difficult.) < 1472259062 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i worked on my languages for ages on the console < 1472259063 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i thought icelandic á was a diphthong? < 1472259075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: where were we again? something to do about knowing your adress? < 1472259092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I have a better one. < 1472259098 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name for å in the Finnish alphabet is "Swedish o" (ruotsalainen o), because the Finnish 'o' grapheme generally means that sound. < 1472259101 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not sure? < 1472259102 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are probably thinking of é < 1472259103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259114 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That whole sentence is ridiculous. < 1472259118 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which was from je < 1472259155 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had John while James had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher had had John while James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher John while James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher had had a better effect < 1472259160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How many hads had james had had had? < 1472259161 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the teacher < 1472259187 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Drop the befinning and end < 1472259196 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which means jeg get skirvat nokkud vel skiljanlegan teksta fyrir norraent folvk < 1472259197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the ones inside < 1472259203 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :John while James had had had had pooch pooch had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259205 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's funny, but sort of a bit cheaty in that some of them are quoted < 1472259206 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's the joke < 1472259218 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the buffalo one is fun too < 1472259221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Right. And moreover one of them is implied to be wrong. < 1472259228 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1472259229 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (and that was not Icelandic but servral languages cooked together) < 1472259250 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kokoo kokoon koko kokko! Koko kokkoko? Koko kokko." (and many similar variants) is the typical Finnish example of that sort of thing. < 1472259255 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jame while John had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had James had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259265 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1472259281 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to fix the sentence? < 1472259288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, let's just say "had" as many times as possible and call it grammar < 1472259300 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1472259310 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is sarcastic sign language possible? < 1472259325 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :John, while James had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher < 1472259340 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something thereabout < 1472259340 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen that before in a book < 1472259347 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one is "kas vain, sanoi kasvain, ja kasvoi vain, sillä vain kasvain voi kasvaa noin vain." < 1472259349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_orthography agrees with me < 1472259351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, that is the answer they had given. < 1472259354 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be bothered to see if that is the right amount of 'had's < 1472259355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: had in two in a row always looks strange to me because I think I made a mistake but it means "hafði haft" in Icelandic < 1472259380 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same for me < 1472259397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: You spoiled the illusion :( < 1472259422 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to know why it is what it is, though < 1472259446 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do not read IPA so I am not sure but it is one single sound to me instead of two < 1472259546 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I remember in the book they had eleven "had"s) < 1472259618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly's book, while zzo38's book had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the channel. < 1472259650 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: well i think english people have the same problem recognizing many of their diphthongs as diphthongs. < 1472259672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*native english-speaking < 1472259691 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps I speak it so quickly that I do not notice < 1472259715 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was a bit surprised to learn that native swedish (which is to say, swedish, sans some relatively recent loanwords) has no diphtongs at all < 1472259721 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sssscomic.com/index.php?id=characters lists... kitty < 1472259722 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, in the standard dialect, I mean < 1472259724 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but the au diphtong is fun one to explain to tourists < 1472259730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is a cat. Meow. Meow. Meow." < 1472259787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Age: 1; Nationality: World; Area of Birth: The silent world(?); Profession: Cat; Languages: Meow < 1472259952 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the flag cheat sheet xD < 1472259957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nordic crosses are kind of confusing < 1472259980 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw talking about IPA and such. Do any of you know of a speach to IPA strings apps that do not require net connection? < 1472260046 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think the size of each band and rectangle are the same across all the nordic flags. It is just the colours and where they go that changes < 1472260084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Yeah, that's a thing < 1472260137 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random idea. < 1472260144 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric micro Redcode hill < 1472260151 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maximum program size limited by IRC lines < 1472260168 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but you should look into the heraldic crests of the countries. They are pretty neat < 1472260378 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472260561 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: the size of the "inner" lines/border between cross and fields might vary? < 1472260568 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :between say the norwegian and icelandic flags < 1472260597 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: a bit yes but not that much that it is visually distinctive < 1472260605 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1472260642 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably could dig out the exact ratios specified in the flaglaws if you want < 1472260652 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are nordic cross flags outside of the country ones, too, like the red-and-yellow for scania and the black-and-white (I think it was) for fennoswedes? < 1472260664 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that question mark should've been inside the parenthesis < 1472260695 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know the Finnish one, which has an aspect ratio of 18:11 with a cross thickness of 3 units. < 1472260713 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the left edge of the vertical bar at x=5.) < 1472260720 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, the fennoswedish one is basically identical to the scanian one < 1472260732 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there is a gallery on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Cross_flag < 1472260821 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swedish one seems to be narrower than the finnish one. < 1472260846 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's curious < 1472260861 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :5:2:9/4:2:4 vs. 5:3:10/4:3:4. < 1472260893 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's the same thing as with any other thing that should be standard but isn't. < 1472260990 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Denmark does 3:1:(4.5-4.25)/3:1:3, apparently. < 1472261019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/4\.25/5.25/ < 1472261151 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the heraldry, obligatory reference: http://satwcomic.com/coat-of-arms < 1472261200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Come on, guys, the sword is *behind* the head, not through it.) < 1472261248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell APic Why, oh why, did not i take the blue Pill? <-- you did. it's just that it makes you think you took the red one hth < 1472261249 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472261337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...swedish is projected to include 600000 words < 1472261390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Big Swedish Dictionary of Bigness is still being worked on, and will be done in 2017 < 1472261423 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Den Stora Svenska Storordboken < 1472261459 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: reminds me of going to the automatic ATM machine < 1472261502 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And typing in your personal PIN number. < 1472261506 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, or are storord big words? (meaning long ones such as the Icelandic) < 1472261589 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Hellisheiðarvegavinnuverkamannakaffiskúrslykklakippunaglhetta ) < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:63: error: expected: "#", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$", "&", "&&", "&&&", "*!>", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*", "***", "*>", "*>|", "+", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "+++", "-", "->", ".", < 1472261590 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/", "/=", ":+", ":-", "::",14↵… < 1472261601 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, idris-bot < 1472261621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: that was the intent, although it was a joke < 1472261630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_last_known_speakers_of_languages include English? < 1472261645 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it changes too fast hth < 1472261657 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1472261668 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: violates the anti retro causal laws that will be enacted sometime in the future < 1472261677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Ah < 1472261688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the correct answer would be Teddy Roosevelt < 1472261733 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Uncyclopedia needs to include mundane pages- like "List of American Fertilizer Manufacturers", which would include Donald Trump as the world's largest producer) < 1472261773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could make it hth < 1472261781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I could < 1472261797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they may have some anti-politics rule for all i know < 1472261802 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Can one count as a native speaker of a language if one's parents raised one speaking it, but it was a second language for both of them? ) < 1472261807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Almost definitely not < 1472261811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't looked at uncyclopedia in ages
< 1472261823 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would not want to see the politics on that anti-politics rule < 1472261862 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if not, then there are no native hebrew speakers hth < 1472261878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no one spoke it natively for a long period < 1472261880 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: native speaker of a language must learn it as "móðurmál", meaning the first language the learn to speak < 1472261899 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1472261904 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if they learn to speak it badly? < 1472261923 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric : The Big Swedish Dictionary of Bigness is still being worked on, and will be done in 2017 ← SAOB? < 1472261934 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: its? < 1472261942 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1472261944 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: incidentally, that's how creole languages are created - children of people speaking pidgins intuitively flesh out the language until it becomes a real one < 1472261955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oooh < 1472261956 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if it's SAOB you're referring to, or something else < 1472261961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think so < 1472261964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=its < 1472261971 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1472261981 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The dictionary has approximately 450,000 main entries, and is expected to be complete around 2017." oh wow, feels weird < 1472261994 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that it is almost finished, that is) < 1472262045 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there are conlangs such as esparanto or lojban (the latter is good for meta lingustic discussions and when you want to winnow away uninentional ambigiouty) < 1472262048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun Fact: Wikipedia is actually plural, referring to the collection of pages (wikipedes) found on the site. < 1472262131 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so? I thought it was obvious from the stem -pedia from encyclopedia. (Which means literally encircling (all topics) pages aiui) < 1472262261 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An accident, also known as an unintentional injury, is an undesirable incidental and unplanned event that could have been prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence." < 1472262269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so you can't plan an accident? < 1472262281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, is it necessarily undesirable?) < 1472262306 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was writing this program http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/artifact/7c71bcf80cfcdf8d and I wanted to think of what should be the best algorithm for figuring out sharing meaning codes. I did think of a few things but don't know what would be best. < 1472262660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hillary Clinton < 1472262668 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predecessor: Barack Obama < 1472262670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Successor: Herself < 1472263375 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you really be your own successor? < 1472263592 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a station called "Clinton" in Chicago on the Green Line 'L' train, the train info signs say "Clinton is next" when they're approaching. < 1472263604 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fortunately the L doesn't stop at Trump Tower.) < 1472263698 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzello < 1472263717 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you werent in chitown last i heard? < 1472263733 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I visited there last week, we had a big team thing. < 1472263738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think it was last week. < 1472263750 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1472263770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicagos a great place. why not just move there? < 1472263807 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the United States of Amber. < 1472263824 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did like the skyline, but I think I liked visiting more than living there. < 1472263848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a boat photo: https://goo.gl/photos/AhRMjpgFKCMSVYEQ6 < 1472263949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to insist i log in, after showing the photo for a short moment < 1472263955 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1472263961 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably some sort of a better link. < 1472263994 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know how to get one. < 1472264026 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472264113 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what all did you eat there fizzie < 1472264121 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://zem.fi/tmp/c/ < 1472264131 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got a bonus photo as well. < 1472264138 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what us of amber means < 1472264171 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate at a place where they just served various bits and pieces of meat. < 1472264192 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: look up amber alerts < 1472264200 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what like a chiarrascuro? < 1472264217 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: did someone go missing in chi recently? < 1472264267 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Something like that. It was at ZED451. < 1472264271 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no? I am not sure by what you mean by chi. Chicago? < 1472264285 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I ate a chi-style hot dog and chi-style deep dish pizza, because that seemed to be the thing to do. < 1472264316 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I picked "Amber" as a random-ish word starting with "Am", as a reference to the Zelazny books. < 1472264331 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472264345 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you make it to a 2nd city show? < 1472264358 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1472264373 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CELTIC CHICKEN < 1472264383 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, because that was a mutually exclusive organized option with the Chicago Architecture Foundation river cruise. < 1472264415 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah oh well < 1472264416 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472264454 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do that much sightseeing, just walked around Millennium Park and the lakefront area a bit. < 1472264464 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even realize river cruises were a thing. the chi river seems...a bit cramped < 1472264466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caught a Tauros. < 1472264478 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :millennium park is cool < 1472264492 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :near where the segway and bike tours leave < 1472264505 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cloud sculpture < 1472264532 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have several photos of the Bean, it looks pretty weird from below what with all the reflections. < 1472264622 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The week before that I was in Cambridge, saw the MIT Museum and the Mount Auburn cemetery. They were good places to visit as well. < 1472264634 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it was the most car-oriented cemetery I've ever been at. < 1472264653 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Admittedly quite big and hilly. But still.) < 1472264685 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472264983 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472265024 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472265180 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the trumpers form a new confederacy? < 1472265194 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then win? < 1472265220 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472265223 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then hillary clinton's successor will be noone, like Gorbachev, and Nicolas II < 1472265358 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As "PResident of the Soviet Union", Gorbachev had no predecessor, and no successor < 1472265369 0 :dos!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472265471 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah help me promote EPNG https://gist.github.com/SoniEx2/60a025d5901f67b2e549dca4a0ba7d46 < 1472265484 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna do this to piss ppl off mostly, and make esolangs a bit more mainstream < 1472265491 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh < 1472265497 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making esolangs more mainstream would piss ppl off < 1472265499 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1472265573 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472265592 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472265797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1472265895 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472266269 0 :dos!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472266290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is 4 the only number where len(name(n)) = n? < 1472266306 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is 'tre' in swedish < 1472266321 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472266328 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 4 is 'fyra'; those are the only two though < 1472266332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making people pay for a course on how to use Linux is just wrong < 1472266337 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least the only digits < 1472266384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Maybe a number for which the name is seven digits shorter? < 1472266396 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why precisely seven? < 1472266396 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm only really counting letters- dashes and spaces are excluded) < 1472266412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Wait, no, eight < 1472266418 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same qustion) < 1472266440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: "n1 e2 g3 a4 t5 i6 v7 e8" < 1472266462 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1472266494 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: generally doing something only to piss people off seems ill-advised < 1472266534 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I wanna piss ppl off *through* making esolangs more mainstream < 1472266552 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally think esolangs should be more mainstream < 1472266556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: What is EPNG? < 1472266559 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if they should be < 1472266569 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: they linked a spec up there < 1472266576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yeah < 1472266582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: But reading is hard < 1472266634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Is the point that it looks like a legit language with a buzzwordiful description, so businesses will make their use it to be more sleek and modern and popular with the youth, but the language itself is bizarre and impossible to understand? < 1472266677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I can't see this spec < 1472266691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the gist? because it doesn't look like a real spec, just a thought < 1472266706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was before I showed up? < 1472266752 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: my first question reading the spec was "what does 'executable data' mean? native machine code? embedded ELF/exe? shellscript? undefined?" and my second one was "where did that shebang line in the example come from?" < 1472266780 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, it's an embedded file < 1472266795 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should mention that somewhere :P < 1472266798 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the format of such file is not specified < 1472266812 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because different systems use different formats < 1472266835 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It simply says it contains executable data, doesn't seem to mention 'file' at all except at the end in the context "PNG files" < 1472266842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM CONFUSED < 1472266847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE UNCONFUSE ME < 1472266852 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well the gist is called "EPNG spec" < 1472266856 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472266870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is < 1472266937 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: This is horrifying < 1472266946 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], why? < 1472266963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: I don't know < 1472266972 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Is the point that it's a PNG containing an executable as well? < 1472266982 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], yes, that's the point < 1472266992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: Oh, I... guess I see < 1472266997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was thinking of it wrong < 1472267007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You /know/ the APNG will run an executable < 1472267015 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like it's a way to slip in viruses :P < 1472267017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well...) < 1472267032 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], it's no more dangerous than .bat files < 1472267069 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'd say it's less dangerous than .bat files, because some servers are vulnerable to .bat files while no servers are vulnerable to .png files < 1472267071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I see that now < 1472267096 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except the ones that let you embed PHP in .png files, but those should burn anyway) < 1472267105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, andif looks fairly interesting < 1472267115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it isn't < 1472267153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just use a normal and < 1472267183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the trivial use case, you just do 'if x and y: / block 1 / else: / block 2' < 1472267222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed block1/2/3 < 1472267267 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472267273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only saw 2 and 3 and I read them as 1 and 2 < 1472267287 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This could be interesting, though the use case hasn't immediately come to mind < 1472267674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, obvious bullshit: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-25/standing-desks-are-coming-for-your-children < 1472267720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a statistically significant (by which we mean 5%, the bare minimum of significance) improvement in the BMI of kids using them in a 400-participant study over 2 years < 1472267749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The study was also done by a guy who makes standing desks for schools, but there's obviously no conflict of interest here. < 1472267919 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is off to bed
< 1472267927 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472268223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472268525 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472268728 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472268750 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472269090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/wob* < 1472269091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/wob_jona < 1472269108 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/wob_jona{,s} < 1472269110 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472269610 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:557f:eba5:d880:68b4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472269610 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:557f:eba5:d880:68b4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1472270191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Challenger5 5* 10New user account < 1472270246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh a registration < 1472270305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472270306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600//2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1472270321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/howg < 1472270322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "wisdom/$1" < 1472270338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hoag < 1472270339 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1472270350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49650&oldid=49630 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+256) 10Introduced myself < 1472270359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1472270422 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472270433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a person who can follow instructions! < 1472270441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing! < 1472270512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Z14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49651&oldid=49069 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+68) 10 < 1472270614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07InterpretMe14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49652&oldid=47069 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+44) 10Clarified some things < 1472270622 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472270699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed quotes --template '{date(date)} {desc}\n' < 1472270701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wed Aug 17 03:12:31 2016 +0000 sled quotes//1287s,I.*,[...] & [...], \ Tue Aug 16 20:47:38 2016 +0000 addquote I told someone to tell the queen to tell the prime minister to cancel the EU. \ Sun Aug 14 02:31:47 2016 +0000 addquote I couldn\'t help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in < 1472270719 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed quotes --template "{date(date, '%Y')} {desc}\n" < 1472270720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg: parse error: filter date expects one argument < 1472270727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fossies.org/linux/mercurial/mercurial/help/templates.txt suggests that that should work. < 1472270731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong? < 1472270738 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old hg version or something? < 1472270784 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/tanebvention --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" < 1472270785 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-01 slwd tanebvention//s# w# metar, w# \ 2016-07-25 slwd tanebvention//s#Go,#Go, Windows 98,# \ 2016-07-15 sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/the/Fueue, the/ \ 2016-06-21 slwd tanebvention//s#p#Tanebventions, p# \ 2016-06-17 sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/ [(]math[)]/: math/ \ 2016-06-13 le/rn < 1472270786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, it took em 3 tries. :( < 1472270794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Challenger514]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49653 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+179) 10Created a user page. < 1472270796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's doable, but I wanted a time as well as a date. < 1472270800 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe a time is excessive. < 1472270836 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/doag//hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1472270837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/doag < 1472270855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/dowg//doag "wisdom/$1" < 1472270857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dowg < 1472270860 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg 2600 < 1472270861 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-08-13 revert accbc9c5c7ec \ 2015-08-12 echo wisdom/* | shuf | head -n 10 | xargs rm \ 2015-06-07 learn 2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch\'s whistle. < 1472270869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Challenger514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49654&oldid=49653 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+1) 10 < 1472270872 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough. < 1472270971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball dowg? < 1472270971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better not tell you now. < 1472270981 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball does outlook work good? < 1472270982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a doubt. < 1472270996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :says you < 1472271000 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball What's up dowg? < 1472271001 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sources say no. < 1472271023 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball what's the outlook on pooches? < 1472271024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1472271031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball says yes on pooches < 1472271032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certain. < 1472271062 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball QVIS·CUSTODIET·IPSOS·CVSTODES < 1472271063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a doubt. < 1472271086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what's your attitude on pooches < 1472271097 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a fan. < 1472271099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball vs. pikhq < 1472271100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot predict now. < 1472271103 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :An adamant fan at that. < 1472271123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball QVOVSQVE·TANDEM·ABVTERE·PIKHQ·HACKEGONE·NOSTRA < 1472271124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes definitely. < 1472271136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, *NOSTRO < 1472271138 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think) < 1472271243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271268 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A man known only as "Dean": "You're a revisionist" < 1472271276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me: "You won't have said that in 50 years" < 1472271298 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more visionary than a regular visionist. < 1472271305 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(True story) < 1472271353 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He didn't laugh though. I think he may have gotten his sense of humor surgically removed. Though he's also german, so...) < 1472271378 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym "surgically revised" hth < 1472271433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Froo: Hoo < 1472271441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do nazi what german has to do with it. < 1472271476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you this data type? data Froo f a = L a | B (Froo f (f a)) < 1472271478 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "QVIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CVSTODES" means? < 1472271480 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472271517 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "Who will guard the guards themselves?" < 1472271535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who will pooch the pooches themselves? < 1472271559 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472271596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :QVIS CANET IPSOS CANES < 1472271838 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472271878 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : // Please do not give it a custom ktyp or make it cool in any way < 1472271878 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : // whatsoever, because players are insane. Usually, not being dragged < 1472271878 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : // down by sanity is good, but this is not the case here. < 1472271948 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472272242 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppl care about sanity? < 1472272251 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know scientists and engineers don't < 1472272256 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472272271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some categorical justification for Free? < 1472272275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of like a free monad. < 1472272312 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472272390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um, you mean it _isn't_ a free monad? < 1472272403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would be data Free f a = L a | B (f (Free f a)) < 1472272416 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472272442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what Free is? < 1472272454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confusel
< 1472272471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472272473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also trapped himself, and starts whistling
< 1472272503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i thought that was how Free _was_ defined. < 1472272509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had it coming / he had it coming / he only had himself to blame < 1472272523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Free is defined by being left adjoint to the forgetful functor or something. < 1472272528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Free and Froo are not the same type. < 1472272549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did you misspell a bit above < 1472272588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes. < 1472272590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant Froo. < 1472272596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD < 1472272598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I see why you were confusel. < 1472272622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all so clear. < 1472272626 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except what Froo is. < 1472272665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the backscroll, it may be a free monad over the pingout functor. < 1472272680 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The method employed I would gladly explain, / While I have it so clear in my head, / If I had but the time and you had but the brain -- / But much yet remains to be said." < 1472272708 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was going to ask the what the pingout functor was. < 1472272774 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :named after the famous french category theorist Edouard Pingout < 1472272812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Édouard < 1472273358 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait < 1472273397 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does n/m+o/p = (n+o)/(m+p)? I don't remember this being true, but I'm not sure < 1472273456 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273459 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test): < 1472273459 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 < 1472273476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [n,m,o,p] ==> (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273479 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1472273479 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • No instance for (Show Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty) arising from a use o... < 1472273503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p] || (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 2 tests and 3291 shrinks): < 1472273506 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 37.170373475361615 0.10771071128386465 -1.0578161875294434 -0.6073094205635062 < 1472273510 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1472273514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Rational] || (n/m+o/p) == ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 2 tests and 6 shrinks): < 1472273517 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-3406868177675) % 2677559980947 4350826311759 % 167300784848 5458341750827 ... < 1472273523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a mess. < 1472273557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm getting here is that the only falsifications are either mathematically invalid or the result of computational limits < 1472273606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be that hard to falsify that equation since it's false almost everywhere... < 1472273622 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's false. < 1472273623 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472273634 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting better of QuickCheck. < 1472273641 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,2,3,4 should fail < 1472273642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\n m o p -> (n/m+o/p, (n+o)/(m+p))) 1 2 3 4 < 1472273645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1.25,0.6666666666666666) < 1472273651 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1472273677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m+o/p = (np+om)/mp < 1472273771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to suggest 1,2,1,2 < 1472273784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, 1,1,1,1 < 1472273797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\n m o p -> (n/m+o/p, (n+o)/(m+p))) 1 1 1 1 < 1472273799 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (2.0,1.0) < 1472273802 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy hth < 1472273864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Rational] || (n/m+o/p) /= ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273866 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472273902 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy indeed < 1472273905 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbhbbltcqgzdpkek JOIN :#esoteric < 1472273910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Rational] || (n/m+o/p) /= ((n+o)/(m+p)) < 1472273913 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472273918 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: you're scow at shrinking hth < 1472273956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Integer] || (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472273959 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Exception: 'Ratio has zero denominator' (after 10 tests and 4 sh... < 1472273959 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -7 -1 1 1 < 1472273969 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1472273991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1472273995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1472273996 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voters quickly forget what a man says. < 1472273997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [n,m,o,p::Integer] || m+p == 0 || (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472274000 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 4 tests): < 1472274000 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 1 -1 1 < 1472274009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why not just add m+p to the list tdnh < 1472274034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] || (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472274037 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274045 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not going too well < 1472274053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use ==> instead of || < 1472274055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (==>) < 1472274057 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :STestable prop => Bool -> prop -> Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty < 1472274073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it wasn't working for you < 1472274081 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so you should figure out what went wrong. < 1472274103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] ==> (n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p)) < 1472274106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1472274106 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • Couldn't match expected type ‘Test.QuickCheck.Safe.SProperty’ with actual ... < 1472274114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> any (== 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274117 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Exception: 'Ratio has zero denominator' (after 1 test): < 1472274117 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 0 0 0 < 1472274120 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1472274130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except you need to invert the left side. < 1472274142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m+p,n,m,o,p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274145 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1472274180 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274183 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you're checking /= < 1472274190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a scientific journal covering the psychology of housecats? < 1472274195 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this seems fine. < 1472274205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) == ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test and 3 shrinks): < 1472274207 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 1 1 -2 < 1472274217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, i was wondering if the original was _always_ false. < 1472274230 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274232 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n m o p -> all (/= 0) [m,p,m+p::Integer] ==> ((n%m+o%p) /= ((n+o)%(m+p))) < 1472274235 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1472274237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So did you figure it out? < 1472274239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's false 200% of the time < 1472274242 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figure what out? < 1472274303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a/b+c/d =? (a+c)/(b+d) < 1472274322 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a*1/b+c*1/d < 1472274329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1472274335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, everyone said it was false. < 1472274340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472274340 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1472274348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently it's used in forensics < 1472274368 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472274372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fingerprinting < 1472274375 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they've defined 0/0 < 1472274444 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472274521 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472274533 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pony does that, too < 1472274594 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god... < 1472274604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" < 1472274618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've been reading it wrong this whole time < 1472274628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's "we" < 1472274628 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many angels are there who know a dance that can be done on the head of a pin" < 1472274632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Us < 1472274642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a b c d -> (a/b+c/d, (a+c)/(b+d))) 1 1 (-4) 2 < 1472274645 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-1.0,-1.0) < 1472274659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are certainly special cases where it's true. < 1472274665 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1472274682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i concluded you needed a negative number < 1472274817 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never read that < 1472274880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a+c)/(b+d) = a/b * b/(b+d) + c/d * d/(b+d), so it's a convex combination < 1472274897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus in cannot be the sum unless negative numbers is involved. < 1472274927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, the 26th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony is coming up in september < 1472275185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, when Abraham was looking for people in Sodom, he should have checked each person for goodness, then went before the LORD with the number he found, and asked whether that satisfies the baseline. Duh. < 1472275317 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know who win the prize? < 1472275352 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ORD a category, like CAT? < 1472275400 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: How should he have checked each person for goodness? < 1472275423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Detect Evil, I think. < 1472275428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: However he did it originally. < 1472275477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: iirc abraham wasn't _in_ sodom hth < 1472275505 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought he went to Sodom to find the good people < 1472275524 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scowdom < 1472275524 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, it was Lot < 1472275549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Owns_the_Future%3F, Jarod Lanier rants about how Google gets a bunch of money from using the translations based on other peoples' work without paying them. He proposes an alternative system, where you source everything and a series of "micropayments" compensates people for anything new they put on the web. < 1472275587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) how does this affect FOSS and (b) As a person who has ever played a game ever, the phrase "micropayments" (similar to "microtransations") sets off alarms < 1472275598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human. So she was turned into a pillar of salt. So it goes." < 1472275604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kurt vonnegut is too good < 1472275803 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472275850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Haven't seen this one. What is it? < 1472275864 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book is Slaughterhouse Five. < 1472275869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was on your banned list earlier. < 1472275907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZZ < 1472275930 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472275932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was < 1472275939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to read it already < 1472275945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good. < 1472275965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Project Xanadu is... eh < 1472275970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scownadu < 1472275981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it's a bit scow < 1472275987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"9. Every document can contain a royalty mechanism at any desired degree of granularity to ensure payment on any portion accessed, including virtual copies ("transclusions") of all or part of the document." < 1472276001 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make people pay by the nybble < 1472276010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a talk by Nelson once. < 1472276014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, you only bought the version with the first half of each letter" < 1472276022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was very unimpressed. < 1472276084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"8. Permission to link to a document is explicitly granted by the act of publication." < 1472276087 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice at least < 1472276096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put it on the internet, people get to look at it < 1472276125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It counters those deep-link-resister assholes < 1472276160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Links can be followed from all endpoints? Not sure if that's entirely desirable < 1472276223 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if someone on particularlyfilthyporn.ass links to mylittlepony.yay? < 1472276884 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472276901 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink assumes that the user knows what Wikipedia is in explaining how Hyperlinks work < 1472276977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define: Hypolink < 1472277153 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: who cares < 1472277168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Me < 1472277201 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you explain it without defining dozens of pther stuff first < 1472277549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not sure? < 1472277556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, Wikipedia or Hypolink?) < 1472277574 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperlink < 1472277780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Oh < 1472277801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I was making a joke. Because the wikipedia page assumes you've ever used a wikipedia page. < 1472277827 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, if you look at a clock when you aren't wearing pants the moment it changes to 11:34, you're cursed for eternity. Who knew? < 1472278429 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell yeah, i made france go commie! < 1472278463 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel the power of my soviet propaganda! < 1472278478 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm playing Hearts of Iron 4) < 1472278528 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, they've improved the game a lot since the version in Windows 3.1 < 1472278730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's awesome. I'm playing the Soviet Union as if Stalin wasn't insane with paranoia < 1472278789 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fomented a communist uprising in France, creating the French Commune < 1472278890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Britain will be commies too by 1940 < 1472278930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this could backfire and I'll end up at war with america < 1472279240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, the queen of spades is scow < 1472279366 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I was disappointed at 21:14:36 < 1472279454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet intrigued < 1472280659 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472281034 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of to make up such thing in Magic: the Gathering cards, as new cards with multi types such as: planeswalker land, Aura enchantment planeswalker, Aura enchantment land, world land, instant creature. < 1472281250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1472281258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472281439 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to make a instant creature, I have written a new rule (or a clarification to an existing rule, depending on your point of view), in order to make it to work. < 1472281462 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I spent the extra money for the Sabaton music DLC < 1472281484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472282110 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! my propaganda is so strong, soon hitler will lose his majority of public support among Germans! < 1472282129 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the end of 1938 < 1472282512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472282898 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472283453 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone frame themself for a crime that has not been committed (and does not intend do commit such crime)? < 1472283823 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:94b6:22f7:3772:8f5e JOIN :#esoteric < 1472283872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia mentions someone who voluntarily confessed to a crime that he could not possibly have committed; he claimed he started a fire by throwing a bomb through a window in a bakery, but actually he the bakery had no windows, he did not enter the country until after the fire started, and he was crippled and unable to throw a bomb. < 1472284646 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285484 0 :puck1pedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285565 0 :Hooloo42!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285569 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285633 0 :deltab_!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285696 0 :erdic_!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285812 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285812 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285813 0 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472285813 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472285814 0 :puck1pedia!?@? NICK :puckipedia < 1472285819 0 :erdic_!?@? NICK :erdic < 1472285864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472285875 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472285877 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472286016 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472286633 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472286959 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7kxuwbsc4hb2u.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472287459 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re len(name(n)) = n, I'm pretty sure we discussed this before, and Finnish (IIRC) has only 5 ("viisi"); but len(name(8)) = 9 ("kahdeksan") and len(name(9)) = 8 ("yhdeksän"). < 1472287498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Hebrew and English 4 is the only number with that property. < 1472287518 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was presented to us as a puzzle in maybe third grade, in Hebrew. I was surprised that it worked in English too. < 1472287610 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. If we go with characters for normal writing. Japanese has only 1 ("一"). < 1472287641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if we consider hiragana, there's... None. < 1472287645 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian only has "3" < 1472287688 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:94b6:22f7:3772:8f5e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472287729 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 is, I believe, the only number whose English spelling is in alphabetical order < 1472287840 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Wait, that's the Sinitic numbers. If we use the Japonic numbers (hitotsu futatsu mittsu, instead of ichi ni san), then there's one which fits in hiragana; 3 ("みっつ"). < 1472287855 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one which fits in normal script! 2 ("二つ") < 1472287890 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And one which fits in Roman alphabet; 3 ("san"). < 1472287939 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish gets tantalisingly close for some later numbers (11 -> 10 "yksitoista", 12 -> 11 "kaksitoista") but doesn't quite manage to match. < 1472287948 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name length is roughly proportional to the logarithm, right? < 1472287988 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Special words for 11, 12 instead of using the same pattern as other 1x numbers are a scow.) < 1472287997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that Go interface vtables are computed at runtime. < 1472288029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent a bit wondering how else it would work. But it turns out they just do it at runtime, type-checking and everything. < 1472288116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did you ever write any Ada? < 1472288130 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no :( < 1472288141 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing out. < 1472288170 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But don't bother with Go. < 1472288194 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend recently finished an internship working with Go < 1472288206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to do an internship working with Go? < 1472288390 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if I can help it < 1472288666 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.barrucadu.co.uk/posts/2016-08-25-three-months-of-go.html < 1472288678 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's his write up of his time with Go < 1472288847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like a Haskell person. < 1472288869 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did you write much Go? < 1472288876 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you use what's-it-called? < 1472288899 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's doing a PhD on concurrency testing in Haskell, I'm fairly sure he's a Haskell person < 1472288907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't say the name, but fortunately I've forgotten the name anyway. < 1472289549 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the only Go I've written has been [NAME WITHHELD]. < 1472289601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1472289908 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"absence of evidence is evidence of absence of evidence" < 1472289958 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing you can use for computing numbers from logs data. < 1472289993 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Google app is a-broken. :( < 1472290079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is this a thing whose name is public? < 1472290123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose not. < 1472290148 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to Google for the name, but like I said, the app's broken. It's a very generic name anyway. < 1472290231 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the http://www.unofficialgoogledatascience.com/ blog mentions the name. But maybe they're rogue agents. < 1472290279 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many posts. < 1472290403 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472290403 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1472290433 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Go replacement for Sawzall, anyway. (Apparently Sawzall's been open-soured so the name should be safe.) < 1472290454 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some Sawzall which I think got checked in at one point. < 1472290461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It computes a function. < 1472290476 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sawzall was a scow language to write that code in. < 1472290562 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But better than the alternative. < 1472290644 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also written a go out < 1472290651 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grmbl. < 1472290672 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Go program to output a serialised protobuf. < 1472290731 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I couldn't remember if [NAME WITHHELD] could do it that way too. < 1472290900 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's another name I can find mentioned on a handful of pages but don't know if I should. Not that I really see why it would matter much.) < 1472290958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people leak a lot of names. < 1472290987 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code name of Gmail is not a secret, though. < 1472291014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... Google announced it publicly. But maybe on Google+. < 1472291020 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what it was. < 1472291021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it might still be considered secret. < 1472291030 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/maybe/only/ < 1472291076 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether the code name of the search app is secret, because I'm fairly sure the string is in the .apk somewhere. < 1472291145 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code name of Google web search? Or your thing? < 1472291202 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Android app. < 1472291224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which app? < 1472291239 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The search app. < 1472291263 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that's just named "Google". < 1472291283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Android app? < 1472291320 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's "Velvet", it's right there in the .apk file name in Android images, there's a bunch of people asking what it is.) < 1472291413 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Velvet is scow. < 1472291416 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fabric, I mean. < 1472291420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can hardly stand fabrics like velvet. < 1472291449 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a subproject called Velour. < 1472291466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably a bunch of other fabric names. < 1472291557 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, we've got nothing when it compares to the forest of code names on the server side of the search stack, I can't even follow their conversation usually. < 1472291592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1472291692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a t-shirt and a hoodie with my PA acronym on it last week. It says "API", that's a nice unambiguous name. < 1472292562 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472292989 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472294491 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472294763 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472296056 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472296443 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472296464 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472296769 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472296903 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://nicknash.me/2012/07/31/adversaries/ this is very interesting < 1472299116 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this in any way connected to the aqsort earlier this week? < 1472299140 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm. somewhat silly question, I'm looking for some causal link, rather than thematic) < 1472299402 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, the second paragraph answers my question... < 1472299707 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I like this perspective on sorting algorithms. < 1472299707 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rather than do all that reading though, we’ll just attack the constant factors ..." tsk tsk tsk. < 1472299753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see animations of the DAGs of various inputs through various algorithms as they're being sorted. < 1472299778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has someone made something like that? < 1472300138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that could be fun. < 1472300200 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other "news" the Human Resource Machine is a cute little game but costs about twice as much as it should, IMHO. < 1472300294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be interesting with things other than sorting algorithms. < 1472300382 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It looks from the trailer like a typical drag-and-drop visual programming game with blocks and so on. < 1472300386 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it more than that? < 1472300475 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a pretty wide genre. < 1472300486 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should do more TIS-100 maybe. < 1472300751 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not much more than that... it's just fun to have that person running around executing the instructions < 1472300816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other questions. What if the graph might have cycles? Then your job is to find strongly connected components or something. What sorts of sorting algorithms would you use for that? < 1472300832 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472300844 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$10 is twice as much as it should cost? < 1472300957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play TIS-100? < 1472301347 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472301363 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472301451 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I didn't < 1472301536 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it, though I don't seem to have played very much of it. < 1472301567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should try it given the other games and things that you liked. < 1472301571 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of liked it but it's just so insanely limited < 1472301575 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to buying games cheaply (humble bundle, gog special offers) ... that may play a role here. < 1472301604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when it comes to judging the price) < 1472301611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like full price is $7. < 1472301616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean HRM < 1472301734 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, being limited is the point. < 1472301756 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472301765 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it really was too much imo < 1472301794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were really basic things, mostly concerning data flow, that you couldn't do without building the program around it < 1472301889 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an accumulator, memory cells, and in the end you get 11 instructions (in, out, store, load, add, sub, jumps (unconditional, if zero, if nonzero), and two CISC operations: postfix ++ and -- on a memory cell, simultaneously loading the result value. < 1472301894 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in HRM) < 1472302023 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472302054 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and there's indirect addressing (pointer in a memory cell). < 1472302104 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I shouldn't complain about the price too much. < 1472302118 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes browse for reviews on "Obduction"
< 1472302153 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :86% metacritic... a promising start < 1472302157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been hearing people talk about it in another channel. < 1472302169 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's no zip (lightning bolt) support. < 1472302181 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't trust aggregate game reviews as far as i could throw them < 1472302261 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that Magic: The Gathering tournament where the judges decided that all the fast-paced decks were invalid? < 1472302272 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a scandal. < 1472302284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In aggregate, at least. < 1472302305 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that doesn't even work. < 1472302316 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can tell there were plans at one time or another to build out Obduction into a slightly bigger game, with a few awkwardly-empty areas and a bit too much space between some of the important elements." < 1472302342 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no zip mode that will really be draining a lot of fun out of the game < 1472302410 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like I don't really want to apy 30 euros for it right now, but will keep watching for offers. < 1472302463 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and why does $30 translates into €30) < 1472302464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to play TIS-100, right? < 1472302478 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or finish snakebird < 1472302482 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still unchanged) < 1472302511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or give the Tangle another try. (Spider And Web) < 1472302512 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472302566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tangle is pretty small. < 1472302569 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many levels does TIS-100 have? (HRM has 36 that involve actual programming, and some coffe breaks with *very* random story) < 1472302579 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shitload < 1472302592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you prefer GOG or Steam? < 1472302601 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gog < 1472302625 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, I don't even have the linux steam client) < 1472302638 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and for puzzle games like this I don't want to boot up windows) < 1472302648 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472302753 0 :deltab_!?@? NICK :deltab < 1472302910 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:990:9e6e:ef0c:c556 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472302915 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@2604:6000:b182:2400:990:9e6e:ef0c:c556 QUIT :Client Quit < 1472303343 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472303420 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 EUR is 34 USD? < 1472303433 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, USD is so high. < 1472303624 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 30 * 1.4562 < 1472303627 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 43.686 < 1472303639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh. < 1472304075 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472304368 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, time to go to sleep. < 1472304609 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472305007 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The gog.com front page says "$1 is not €1" and promises to make up the difference. Do they not actually do that? < 1472305034 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to some extent, yes. < 1472305108 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so a) some games actually have adjusted prices (for example, TIS 100 would've cost EUR 6.29) and they add a coupon to the account for some games that don't have this price adjustment. < 1472305147 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that means you only get the benefit if you purchase from them again... so there's a huge advertising angle to this, especially since the coupons expire after a while (6 months? a year?). < 1472305183 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expirinig coupons? Scow. < 1472305190 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's 1.4562? < 1472305198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should just let inflation take care of it. < 1472305203 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. EUR to CAD. < 1472305205 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *and* nagging reminders when they do expire < 1472305215 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: makes sense, thanks < 1472305322 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tesselated intelligence system", hmm. < 1472305363 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Make sure to read the manual. < 1472305402 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I already figured that that would be required. < 1472305451 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can also press F1 or something like that to get a summary. < 1472305460 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I was wrong before but now I'm really going to sleep. < 1472305511 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the first level can be done without reading the manual ;) < 1472305525 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I expect this kind of extrapolation has its limits. < 1472306536 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should play TIS-100 more
< 1472306679 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: COMPONENT CHICKEN < 1472306682 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and boo for making the manual full of images < 1472306845 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. searching for a Mnemonic doesn't work, for no good reason) < 1472306993 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Isn't it sort-of part of the story that it's just as can? < 1472306997 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/as c/a sc/ < 1472307011 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe but it's still awful. < 1472307024 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=456879799 ... < 1472310167 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually F1 proably satisfies my most urgent needs (as I found out half an hour ago) < 1472310341 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, one row down, but I should do some other things. < 1472310406 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472310848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472311307 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1472311307 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 271350Z 11006KT 040V140 9999 FEW080 31/17 Q1018 NOSIG < 1472311316 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1472311410 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah 9999 < 1472311413 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bad < 1472311423 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike the 31 < 1472311430 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is fine < 1472311439 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, primes are awful < 1472311442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 31 could be worse, I suppose, given the season. < 1472311445 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the 17? < 1472311459 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 17 is helpful < 1472311467 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: do you know how to read those? < 1472311470 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1472311504 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have tried to teach me but i was stronger < 1472311506 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :31/17 mean: it's 31°C, so fairly hot; but dewpoint is 17°C so the air is quite dry. < 1472311535 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless, i'll forget in 20 minutes < 1472311540 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 9999 is visibility, so the air is clear. Nothing wrong there. < 1472311555 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm trying to help you make sense of the current discussion. < 1472311571 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care all that much whether you'll be confused again in the future. < 1472311604 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the "discussion" is, I guess, more of a monologue on my part. < 1472311654 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, who changed the mutt hotkey for "flag this message" from F (-f) to f? < 1472311658 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a conversation between you and lambdabot afaict < 1472311684 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: As you can see, I've moved on. < 1472311749 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric :Short attention sp... wow, look at this! | The string theory channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1472311772 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is FEW080 the wind direction and speed? < 1472311780 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let me guess) < 1472311925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472311935 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthras1ir: no, those are layers of clourds < 1472311943 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1472311957 0 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar < 1472311960 0 :lifthras1ir!?@? NICK :lifthrasiir < 1472311977 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :040V140 is wind (hmm, 40kph, various directions, gusts up to 140kph? I'd have to check) < 1472312030 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472312032 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually I probably got that wrong < 1472312124 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1472312125 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 271420Z 27015KT CAVOK 22/06 Q1014 < 1472312127 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :11006KT is wind (mostly from 110°, 6 knots) 040V140 indicates that the direction varies betwwo 40° and 140° < 1472312181 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so approximately NE to SE. < 1472312191 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :gusts up to 140 km/h sounds like it'd be a bit terrifying < 1472312197 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1472312207 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't think
< 1472312211 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happens :P < 1472312477 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49655&oldid=47354 5* 03Sesshomariu 5* (+235) 10/* Examples */ < 1472313420 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone gave me a crappy tablet with an allwinner a33 and 512m ram and .3mpx front camera and 8gb flash < 1472313432 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me 5 good reasons why i shouldn't turn this into a mini server < 1472313486 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have a DSL port < 1472313496 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't connect to internet without a phone line < 1472313513 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait, did you say good reasons? < 1472313523 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472313550 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even have a phone line here < 1472313614 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, go for it < 1472313618 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1472313645 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to get my old Windows 98 computer up and running again < 1472313772 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A server with a camera, that's novel < 1472313794 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :an awful crappy camera that i would never use < 1472313797 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could actually use the camera as an entropy source :D < 1472313826 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly more useful than it'd be as, y'know, a camera intended to take photos < 1472313852 0 :Hooloo42!?@? NICK :Hoolootwo < 1472314311 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472314377 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Client Quit < 1472314428 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad41e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472315389 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472316386 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472316621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( to, tre, fire ) . o O ( en/ei/ett) < 1472316656 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472316901 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1472316918 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've remembered it's to in norwegian < 1472316933 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :to tree-fire < 1472316938 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also danish, i think < 1472317184 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472317283 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the numbers? < 1472317307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're their own length < 1472317319 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that game yes < 1472317326 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in alphabetic order. < 1472317342 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding the cycles of the function that takes number to length of representation in some language < 1472317352 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the cycles that is < 1472317376 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's always just a finitely many cycles for any sane language, because all large enough numbers have much fewer letters than their value) < 1472317404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUCC SUCC SUCC ZERO < 1472317450 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungarian, the cycles are (2, 5) and (4) < 1472317586 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah hm < 1472317625 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: so the word for 2 is five letters and the one for 5 is two letters? < 1472317628 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a language where there's a cycle to which you can get from only finitely many starting numbers by releated iteration? < 1472317631 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes < 1472317715 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish has the problem that 1-10 sans 4,8 are three letters (4,8 are 4 letters) < 1472317729 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of ruins any attempts at nice cycles < 1472317799 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: is (3) the only cycle? < 1472317803 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1472317805 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3) and (4) < 1472317810 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, because "fire" < 1472317817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyra < 1472317825 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1472317827 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fyra in swedish; oerjan's were norwegian < 1472317929 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how many numbers are there that have four letters? < 1472318028 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8, 11, 12. then there are probably infinitely many others that land there < 1472318100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,9,10 ; 3,5,7,13,14,16,18,23,25,27 ; 4,6,8,11,12,15,17,19,20,21,22,24,26,28,29 < 1472318128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first group doesn't get many hits up to 29 < 1472318229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't have said that: 33,34,35,36,37,38 ; ; 30,31,32,39 < 1472318259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, probably infinitely many for all cycles < 1472318294 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's that? < 1472318306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1472318318 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i split the numbers according to which of 2,3,4 they end up in in norwegian < 1472318347 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1472318388 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what you want, you should probably look for a short length that no bigger numbers hit < 1472318391 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungarian, 20 and 100 have 4 letters, and that's enough to make them infinitely many < 1472318400 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1472318537 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, now I'm wondering what the split between the three groups would look like if you take the limit < 1472318571 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if at some point all future numbers end in one of the sets < 1472318600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they can end in only one of the sets. too much spread already. < 1472318698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, i guess, you can somehow get them all into that 33-38 vortex :P < 1472318716 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472318717 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2), (3), (4) are the cycles in Esperanto too, and 8 -> 2, 10 -> 3, 20 -> 5 -> 4 so probably there are infinitely many numbers for each < 1472318819 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try http://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/index.htm < 1472318897 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472318905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 -> 2 -> 4 -> 5, 6 -> 3 -> 5, 7/8/9 -> 4, 10 -> 3 french seems to have only one < 1472318923 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, french only has one cycle < 1472318939 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have two sets of points: n worker and m jobs. i want every job visited by one worker and the sum of the traveled way to be as minimal as possible. anybody knows a way better than n*m? < 1472318942 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472318960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german also only has one cycle, (4) < 1472319043 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472319208 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I assume n < m? < 1472319221 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<= < 1472319232 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the workers just do nothing < 1472319241 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, < is the tricky part < 1472319243 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472319298 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472319372 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472319671 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my approximation approach is: build an n-partition of the jobs, ?atch each worker with the nearest center < 1472319849 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not even sure if thus is easier or harder than tsp < 1472320007 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, mtsp is a thing < 1472320205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? np < 1472320206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :np? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472320218 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?atch ? < 1472320219 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1472320228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NP is the complexity class of decisions that are No Problem. < 1472320230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'np': NP is the complexity class of decisions that are No Problem. < 1472320345 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? minpoijjikop < 1472320345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minpoijjikop? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472320436 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Minpoijjikop bfjoustioppl sdardqwcasf uyvjhyb mipjkpmo. < 1472320438 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'minpoijjikop': Minpoijjikop bfjoustioppl sdardqwcasf uyvjhyb mipjkpmo. < 1472320439 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1472320462 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472320537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the first language to have keyboard section harmony. < 1472320557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that ugly bfjoust loanword. < 1472320567 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hehe < 1472320574 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"keyboard section harmony" < 1472320659 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? p < 1472320659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472320708 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn P is the complexity class of problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320710 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'p': P is the complexity class of problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320732 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320734 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'p': P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1472320872 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472321172 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: o, tdh < 1472321299 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a computer with more memory < 1472321457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lean NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1472321458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lean: not found < 1472321462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1472321464 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'np-complete': NP-complete is the subset of NP to which all problems in P can be reduced, thus completely solving them. < 1472321498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that should cover the important stuff < 1472321980 0 :S1!~S1FeHa@ip5f5ad41e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472322152 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472322246 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? co-NP < 1472322247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-NP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472322250 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coNP < 1472322251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coNP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472322258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BQP < 1472322259 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BQP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472322343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1472322345 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'co-np': co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1472322587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? google < 1472322588 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem. < 1472322596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1472322604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits google < 1472322606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1472322631 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472322722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. < 1472322724 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'google': Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. < 1472322738 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inspired by logreading) < 1472322822 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg google < 1472322823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-08-27 learn Google is where people are working on [NAME WITHHELD] and [REDACTED], without being evil at all. \ 2015-12-19 learn Google your half-Word Haskell is Problem. < 1472322889 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was from his neural network < 1472322958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, it was scow hth < 1472322990 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/dowg < 1472322991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag "wisdom/$1" < 1472322998 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/doag < 1472322998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed --template "{date|shortdate} {desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1472323014 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :intriguing < 1472323022 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? doag < 1472323025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472323027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the naming scheme keeps proliferating. shachaf made that yesterday. < 1472323043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hog < 1472323044 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hog? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472323053 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1472323054 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ < 1472323063 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472323068 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/???? < 1472323069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/????: No such file or directory < 1472323073 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1472323078 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/???? < 1472323079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/1492 \ bin/2014 \ bin/2015 \ bin/2016 \ bin/2017 \ bin/as86 \ bin/bugs \ bin/calc \ bin/cats \ bin/ciol \ bin/cmds \ bin/ctof \ bin/dice \ bin/doag \ bin/döts \ bin/dowg \ bin/erro \ bin/evil \ bin/exps \ bin/fsck \ bin/ftoc \ bin/good \ bin/grph \ bin/gs2c \ bin/gs2x \ bin/halp \ bin/hoag \ bin/howg \ bin/json \ bin/list \ bin/luac \ bin/maim < 1472323079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls eyes
< 1472323086 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1472323097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/???g < 1472323098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/doag \ bin/dowg \ bin/hoag \ bin/howg \ bin/ping \ bin/pong < 1472323106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/??g < 1472323107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/hog \ bin/log \ bin/rng < 1472323131 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts what does this do < 1472323132 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẅḧäẗ döës ẗḧïs dö < 1472323146 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that was a bit obvious. < 1472323170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ëẍäcẗlÿ ẅḧäẗ ïẗ säÿs ön ẗḧë ẗïn. < 1472323197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | döts < 1472323198 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẗësẗ < 1472323229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2016 < 1472323230 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1472323679 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ¿ np < 1472323680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.melborP oN era taht snoisiced fo ssalc ytixelpmoc eht si PN < 1472323686 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guessed as much < 1472323790 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472323914 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472324062 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472324277 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there possible position in chess and/or shogi where a repetition occurs with both sides giving check on every move? < 1472324343 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you require it to be optimal play? < 1472324347 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or merely possible < 1472324394 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely possible in chess < 1472324411 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, wait < 1472324555 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472324813 0 :tourdejord!~tourdejor@67-2-39-224.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472324824 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472325174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible from any legal sequence of moves from the starting position < 1472325260 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1472325261 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 271750Z 28016KT 9999 VCSH SCT034 BKN047 13/09 Q1018 RMK WIND 670FT 29016KT < 1472325483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1472330318 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably zzo38 wants a generalisation of http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess/check.html < 1472330527 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the TIS-100 histograms are nice but is there a way to see the actual records... < 1472330568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472330796 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472330805 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's a good question. < 1472330832 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could ask it a bit more generally, saying what's the longest sequence of possible half-moves in chess such that each half-move gives check to the opponent < 1472331091 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess/check.html might be relevant (not exactly the same question, but close) < 1472331098 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's plausible that all such sequences must be finite in normal chess < 1472331132 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually the statistics (as I see them) are misleading, buh. < 1472331228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: this shows not a cycle, but 38 half-moves of check, but it uses the restriction that it doesn't allow promoted pieces < 1472333036 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If your personality can be neatly assigned into a well-defined category, then you're a Bertrand. If it can't, you're a Russell." ~ @qntm < 1472333232 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that your personality can be nearly assigned into a well-defined category. There are a lot of different ways to do such thing and yet I think still it is not so neatly assigned correctly in any case. < 1472333251 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "human" a well defined category of personality? < 1472333281 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you may not think your brain is a supervillain. but 1) its called Brain and 2) it lives in a skull fortress" < 1472333384 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think "human" is a well defined category of species probably. Of personality I don't know, but I suppose so; still it fails to explain much, other than instinctive stuff and a few others perhaps. < 1472333407 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure "human" is more of a genus than a species, but hey. < 1472333418 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well I don't know biology so well. < 1472333445 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I think the distinction only really matters to dead people < 1472333458 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are any Homo non-sapiens around these days < 1472333469 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I'm misunderstanding < 1472333480 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, all other human species are dead. < 1472333505 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other hominids around, though. < 1472334977 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472335247 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472335910 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1472335920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472338194 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7kxuwbsc4hb2u.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472339626 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized that Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia's leaders in this game are identical white haired blue eyed old men < 1472339787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472339873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom revers < 1472339874 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversal//lasrever < 1472339894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? co- < 1472339895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472339918 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates it when his intuition suddenly tells him not to add a wisdom.
< 1472339943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or my rsi is acting up. < 1472340457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472340639 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472340720 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I interfere in the Spanish Civil War? < 1472340770 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to remove a possible ally of Hitler, but this might be risky < 1472340873 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in real history, there were plenty of communists in it, and they still lost. < 1472340885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu. < 1472341006 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: lol i wonder how many people are actually in the Russell category. it's hard to tell, given that the category is (necessarily) not well-defined < 1472341190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just apply BR's type theory to note that Bertrand and Russell cannot be categories at the first level. < 1472341508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm pretty sure "human" is more of a genus than a species, but hey. <-- http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2600/fc02546.htm < 1472341522 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to at least ship the good guys weapons and send a small cadre of volunteers to delay the nationalists from taking madrid < 1472341668 0 :Ender13!~Agent13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:b40c:b36:bccd:eef JOIN :#esoteric < 1472341688 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime I'm trying to make France like us enough to interfere too < 1472341854 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472341905 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that game? < 1472341967 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1472341983 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Hearts of Iron < 1472341985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1472342003 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1472342021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing as Stalin, but trying not to kill everyone who looks at me funny < 1472342086 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the real Stalin almost lost Korolev. he sent fucking Korolev, to gulag! < 1472342116 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wonder that the USSR ever even had a space program < 1472342213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Iim trying to make sure we science the shit out of the Nazis < 1472343313 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have designed this Magic: the Gathering card (with a bit of suggestions to help): {-} Conspiracy ;; Creature spells you cast cost an additional {1} to cast. ;; Whenever you cast a creature spell, you gain 1 life. ;; Whenever a nontoken creature you own dies, target opponent loses 1 life. < 1472343467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't seem like a very good card. < 1472343620 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472343710 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it is added, that it give you a token that you can tap for one mana that is spend only for noncreature spells, and only if you control a creature? < 1472344536 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472344724 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knew that just 3 armored divisions from the USSR, under a relatively green commander, could turn the tide of the Spanish Civil War? < 1472344824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose it helps that the other side has no tanks at all < 1472345699 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: i sense a bright red future < 1472346334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* asus smart gestures driver has changed its menu so that you _cannot_ disable three finger gestures... < 1472346382 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's starting to drive me nuts, because 90% of the time a three finger gesture triggers, it's by accident. < 1472346417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i don't really need to use the gesture for the final case) < 1472346622 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1472347022 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472347627 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to configure that in a different way (such as editing the configuration file directly)? < 1472348228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, and i got too close to a panic attack when trying to find out. < 1472348689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it's in the windows registry. i have failed to search for it. < 1472348713 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472348728 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that there's no documentation anywhere in english. < 1472348757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, would it hurt Asus's bottom line that much to hire a native speaker to writer stuff) < 1472348762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-r < 1472349008 0 :Ender13!~Agent13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:b40c:b36:bccd:eef PART #esoteric : < 1472349617 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate unit testing < 1472349628 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1472349649 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :more accurately, I hate the idea that the best way to do unit testing is to hermetically seal off your units from anything that might be interesting < 1472349795 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercahello. unit testing is painful. < 1472349877 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472349891 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1472349904 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the philosophy that your unit tests should fail independent < 1472349908 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*independently < 1472349920 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bunk because the results of one test depend on the results of another < 1472349941 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things that really bugs me is that "randomized testing is bad because it is not reproducible" < 1472349948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I considered buying an Asus computer but I decided against it. < 1472349954 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead I test 10 out of 2^32 possible values < 1472349964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1472349972 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it so happens that my function fails for INT_MAX - 1, the unit tests will never catch it < 1472349973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined the channel before I logged into my accout < 1472349975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1472350105 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the peculiar model of unit testing object-oriented languages that emphasizes boilerplate code < 1472350120 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :since "each test should test one thing" < 1472350121 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgaf < 1472350123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's how people reveal their cloaks. since you don't have one, it doesn't matter. < 1472350151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's because the login system requires contacting a different server. < 1472350190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, before I logged into the account on my laptop < 1472350194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you happen to be on the same one as nickserv. < 1472350198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh. < 1472350210 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I opened my laptop, but then waited a bit before logging in to read the news < 1472350225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And boily had already porthelloed me when I did log in < 1472350290 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1472350293 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilywa < 1472350298 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was a spur of the moment thing where i ignored my intuition because my dad offered to buy a new laptop and we were in a shop that had asus on display. < 1472350335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and he was leaving the next day, and my old laptop was on the brink - it crashed for good the next week) < 1472350362 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i hate shopping) < 1472350370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps you can contact the manufacturer and apply a one finger gesture hth < 1472350377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: TEMPTING < 1472351418 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472351536 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain this? >>+>,[->+>,]<[<[<<]<[.<[<<]<]>>[+>->]<<] < 1472351557 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this part is easy >>+>,[->+>,]< < 1472351579 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest i dunno < 1472351683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >>+>,[->+>,]<[<[<<]<[.<[<<]<]>>[+>->]<<]!testing < 1472351683 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eginstt < 1472351693 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a sort < 1472351713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i think i get it < 1472351725 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it stores a character it decrements it < 1472351756 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then finds the first point with a zero and then prints it and i'm lost < 1472351771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >>+>,[->+>,]<[<[<<]<[.<[<<]<]>>[+>->]<<]!testing
< 1472351896 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do? < 1472351905 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :added a ^A at the end < 1472351931 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fungot has no timeout? < 1472351932 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the function will fnord will try and learn a few other languages that don't exist < 1472351951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it just doesn't print anything then. < 1472351974 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a stupid bot < 1472351980 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the main loop gets skipped < 1472351984 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should print or something < 1472351996 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1472351997 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: chording keyboards are ones where you really feel about srfi 33 < 1472352008 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RAVEN CHICKEN < 1472352025 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all stupid bots, are we not? < 1472352100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think you are all stupid bots, are you not? < 1472352127 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliza :) < 1472352144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's talk about you, not me < 1472352319 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- stupid bot < 1472352536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49656&oldid=49637 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+1956) 10 < 1472352548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49657&oldid=49656 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-11) 10 < 1472353619 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472354595 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472355313 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472355355 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472355643 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472355901 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472355957 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472356252 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472357343 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472357635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Leibniz notation work? < 1472357642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean? Why do the informal mafipulations that people do with it work so well? < 1472357734 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472357770 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works because the notion of an "infinitisimal", though not then explained or used in rigorous terms, actually can be defined rigorously. And the manipulations permitted on it function the same as people's informal manipulations do. < 1472357797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which notion of "infinitesimal" are you using? < 1472357816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-standard analysis? Smooth infinitesimal analysis? < 1472357845 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-standard analysis, as applied to the calculus of differentials and of integrals. < 1472357861 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without the notion of infinitesimal, you can still define a meaning for "dy/dx" (even if you maybe don't define "dy" and "dx" separately). What meaning would you take for it? < 1472357880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In non-standard analysis, "dy/dx" doesn't literally mean an infinitesimal dy divided by an infinitesimal dx. That would be too easy. < 1472357893 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means the standard part of a quotient of infinitesimals, at least. < 1472357941 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472357948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you can ask three people what "dy/dx" actually means and get five answers. < 1472357957 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have considered "dy" and "dx" can be define separately but they are not infinitesimals < 1472357992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you define them as? < 1472357996 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My naive interpretation of dy/dx without infinitesimals as a concept, is that it's an opaque symbol meaning "derivative with respect to x". < 1472358018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Covectors? One-forms? < 1472358028 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's what I said. < 1472358037 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, y is an expression with a free variable x. < 1472358049 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx is also an expression with a free variable x (but not the same x). < 1472358050 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472358092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If D : (R -> R) -> (R -> R) is the differentiation operator, then dy/dx means D(\x.y)(x) < 1472358097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what you're thinking? < 1472358118 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472358119 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472358174 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say other things. For example, that y is a function, and dy/dx is a function. < 1472358208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd is a useful piece of advice < 1472358212 0 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358214 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do define them as something like "opaque symbols", with certain algebraic properties so that you can make calculations with them. < 1472358245 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds good, can you say more? < 1472358286 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358295 0 :Akaibu_!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhokxrhadezsqehz JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that people do is say: y^2 = x^2; d/dx both sides, so d(y^2)/dx = d(x^2)/dx, so 2y dy/dx = 2x, so dy/dx = x/y < 1472358344 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now y isn't an expression in x at all. < 1472358345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example d(x^2)=2xdx and so on. Therefore if y=x^2 then dy/dx=2x < 1472358357 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358357 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358358 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pudtcimibqlkxcjr QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358358 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-poaehyjqgpcfiauc QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358359 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358359 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358360 0 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358360 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472358381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* < 1472358391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't poof < 1472358396 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358405 0 :Akaibu_!?@? NICK :Akaibu < 1472358419 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358431 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the notation d^2y/dx^2 for the second derivative is wrong and it does not actually work. By using the rule for derivative of divisions, you can figure out the correct way (I have done so, and have found another answer in a book, and I found it to be equivalent). < 1472358440 0 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the correct way? < 1472358526 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it out on some paper somewhere but now I forget. < 1472358534 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Today's xkcd is a useful piece of advice <-- i think your timing estimate is a _little_ bit nonlinear. < 1472358571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What is d(dx)? < 1472358571 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want, you can try to figure it out by yourself. < 1472358575 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "today's xkcd" just means "the thing that pops up when you go to xkcd.com" < 1472358603 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It is d(dx). Without more information you cannot convert it as far as I know. < 1472358603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if one is reading the logs, it means whichever one is most recent at the time when you're reading < 1472358614 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it's the function d applied to the variable dx. < 1472358618 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1472358631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: you can't poof <-- didn't you see how i made all those people disappear hth < 1472358672 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i recommend "current" hth < 1472358689 0 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nergoytgznqfjyik JOIN :#esoteric < 1472358728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In what context is "dx" defined? < 1472358737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it only make sense in the presence of a free variable x? < 1472358827 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "x" has to mean something too, and then it can be calculation by the relation and so on. < 1472358846 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472358913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if you have variables y and x with y=x^2 and so on, then y and x are the variables here, so that is what it means, and since you have this equation you can make up more equations from it like any other mathematics is. < 1472358950 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the type of d, or of dx? < 1472358957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What manipulations are permitted on it? < 1472359000 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most common stuff is OK such as addition, multiplication, division, etc < 1472359674 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472360438 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is there a definition of d I can read anywhere? < 1472360443 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it some sort of algebraic structure? < 1472360471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make a version that works with functions, instead of expressions? < 1472360547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: One thing you can say is: y and x are really implicitly expressions in, say, t. < 1472360553 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then dx really means dx/dt < 1472360840 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472361001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472361913 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that is how it works (unless dt=1) < 1472361974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1472361993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, of course if you could refer to t directly in this context, then dt would be 1. < 1472362425 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many requests per second could a good webserver serve in 1990? < 1472362452 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472362565 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were there any web servers in 1990? < 1472362581 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, 1992? < 1472362619 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i wrote a stupid wrapper that forks off to a shell script and that shell script replies "hello from a server that runs on android" in http < 1472362642 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's running on my tablet and it handles 100 requests in 1.7s < 1472362646 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that good for 1992? < 1472362799 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out forking is a little inefficient < 1472362817 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shocking* < 1472362817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forking is a strategy that was used for a long time, with CGI scripts. < 1472362819 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472362824 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1472362916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that the first web server was developed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT_Computer < 1472363980 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forking is a pretty inefficient way of spawning processes. < 1472363997 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, the thing that's slow there isn't actually the fork call. < 1472364030 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that your shell is paying some pretty big startup costs. < 1472364126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to use the shell, you gotta shell out the startup costs. < 1472364143 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but bash's aren't exactly worth it. < 1472364173 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait, Android. That'll be toolbox sh, probably. < 1472364183 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's using Bionic, which is a scow libc. < 1472364200 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendly advice, never write a libc in C++. < 1472364215 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendly advice, never write a libc < 1472364230 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :both the C and C++ standard libraries are scow < 1472364241 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION really wishes musl existed at the time that Android was getting started
< 1472364252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a heffalump or musl / is very confusel < 1472364257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hth < 1472364311 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once had to work with C++ stdlib locale code < 1472364366 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was no doubt way too complex because it was designed to account for not-UTF-8 charsets. < 1472364375 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps even *shudder* stateful charsets. < 1472364526 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mksh < 1472364575 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not part of why < 1472364577 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1472364580 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all of why < 1472364602 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too complex because it was designed to be extensible in a terrible way < 1472364615 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1472364617 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mksh? < 1472364621 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, C++ locales < 1472364630 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the end result was something totally useless for basically everything < 1472364646 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the interface itself is too complex and overly general. < 1472364659 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly C++ should deprecate locales & iostreams and replace them with something better < 1472364666 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And most implementations then decide to be that general. < 1472364676 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they follow the standard < 1472364694 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, at least the C locale standard *permits* simple implementations. < 1472364704 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one aspect of the mess in C++ iirc also comes from attempts to be compatible with C locales) < 1472364716 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has its own locale fun < 1472364722 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the lack of thread-local locale functions < 1472364748 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... In C but not POSIX, and non-POSIX C implementations are: Microsoft Visual C. < 1472364817 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard Windows has a Linux system call emulation layer now. < 1472364822 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try it? < 1472364843 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And MSVC is basically as much of a joke implementation as IE6's implementation of HTML. < 1472364846 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I haven't. < 1472364876 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: when did POSIX add those? < 1472364892 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, I'm confusing myself < 1472364899 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, POSIX has thread-local ones < 1472364913 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, uselocale was added in POSIX-2008. < 1472364933 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the various functions that take locale_t are earlier. < 1472364939 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ok < 1472364966 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :my notes say posix is missing some < 1472364996 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible the notes are just old. POSIX gets new versions every now and then. < 1472365012 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, some of the implementations (*cough*OS X*cough*) don't care. < 1472365013 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472365027 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :my notes are POSIX.1-2008 < 1472365036 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay, that's the latest modulo errata. < 1472365096 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally it lacks local_t versions of printing functions < 1472365100 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, with uselocale you *may* correctly implement any locale_t-taking function you feel like. < 1472365105 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conversions < 1472365121 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :*locale_t < 1472365145 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though doing it perfectly correctly for a lot of 'em (the ones that are cancellation points) is going to be a bit tricky. (not impossible, just tricky) < 1472365201 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, and the ones that are async signal safe, if any of 'em are. < 1472365229 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can't be bothered to look if any of 'em are async signal safe) < 1472365232 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't think you can < 1472365246 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you don't know the encoding of wchar_t* in an arbitrary locale < 1472365261 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wchar_t is stupid too but that's another story) < 1472365343 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own programs just use C locale so we don't need the others < 1472365462 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that's relevant, but in practice it's of little relevance: good implementations should have __STDC_ISO_10646__, and as such wchar_t values are Unicode codepoints in all locales. < 1472365507 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are, once again, two kinds of implementations worth caring about: implementations with that, and MSVC) < 1472365670 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best way is ignore that and use C locale; ISO 10646 is no good and the other locales are also no good. < 1472365732 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows is screwed there < 1472365764 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9dbc:c17a:4551:fdc4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472365769 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you can't implement printfw_l without knowing the encoding < 1472365782 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other various conversion functions < 1472365908 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does printfw_l means anyways? < 1472367047 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472371774 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SortingAlgorithmOfTropes is paradise for me < 1472372149 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg82ivcejpgg7o2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472374612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472377016 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9dbc:c17a:4551:fdc4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472381038 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/qJJMNf/raw <- this is serving this -> http://95.233.72.203 < 1472383733 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking for source code the 2011 movie with jake gyllenhaal < 1472383744 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and found this https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3497574/Windows_2000_source_code and this https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4149808/Windows_NT4_source_code < 1472383754 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look legit < 1472383841 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and illegal < 1472383886 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1472384091 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fuck you hitler. I'm retreating, you can take poland, have fun. But my newest tanks will meet you at the eastern border when you get there < 1472384115 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn it why are my tanks not as good as his < 1472384164 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Hitler? Didn't you want to outtech him? < 1472384233 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472384252 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472384296 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472384312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, but I focused my efforts on planes, but poland won't let me rebase my bombers < 1472384387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I have better tanks but they're only being manufactured now, my old tank divisions are stuck with old tanks < 1472384545 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472384679 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472385401 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of my benchmarks trigger O(n^2) behaviour for microsoft's qsort < 1472385816 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that dag adversary strong enough to ensure that Theta(n log(n)) comparisons are required for any comparison based sorting algorithm? < 1472385967 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang I'm mixing up the big O's, I mean Omega. < 1472386371 0 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472390005 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472390061 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472390776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49658&oldid=49657 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-3410) 10 < 1472390835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49659&oldid=49658 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+5) 10 < 1472390881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49660&oldid=49659 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-1) 10 < 1472390890 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472391393 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472394026 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472394028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark//A mark of one's destiny singled out alone, fulfilled. < 1472394188 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472394551 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1472394651 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472394939 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, seriously, this time I'm playing as Iran. How did I end up at war with Finland!? < 1472394993 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatcha playing? < 1472395018 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some Paradox game or something? < 1472395025 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like europa universalis where iran ends up next to finland? < 1472395039 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: The enemy of your enemy? Alliances are tricky. < 1472395098 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To my mind it's not more ridiculous as Japan becoming an ally of Germany. < 1472395109 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/as/than/ < 1472395122 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a communist Iran, so I guess because USSR declared war on finland? < 1472395149 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1472395168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily I already annexed iraq < 1472395195 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's no Israel. < 1472395208 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, not at this point in history. < 1472395218 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should simplify matters quite a bit... well... not really. < 1472395239 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, however, researching nukes < 1472395256 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if iran was cummunist, and got nukes by 1944? < 1472395266 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's find out < 1472395546 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's Saudi Arabia in all this? < 1472395577 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I wonder if I can grab some of Saudi's territory if I threaten to nuke Riyadh? < 1472395627 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now they don't seem to be doing much, they don't even seem to have much forces at their border with me < 1472395737 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turkey on the other hand has nine infrantry divisions looking over their border asking for me to send them somthing to shoot at < 1472395832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :japan just joined the axis < 1472396075 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: indeed, what are you playing? < 1472396087 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: Hearts of Iron 4 < 1472396119 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it looks like Syria is controlled by vichy france, so when the real warr breks out,I'll grab that < 1472396128 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1472396128 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 281320Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW070 FEW070TCU 31/16 Q1017 NOSIG < 1472396795 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472396972 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472397010 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Researching rocketry < 1472397051 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With a little help from my dear russian friends) < 1472397063 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472397903 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RISKY CHICKEN < 1472398944 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472400088 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's going on here?! Why isn't Germany breaking the ribbentrop pact? < 1472400093 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1472400095 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1472400102 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ts almost 1942 < 1472401011 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472401034 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: turns out that was you breaking the pact all along, when you traveled back in time < 1472401333 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw it then I'm invading the Saudis < 1472401813 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah it looks like somehow I ended up in a world where stalin and hilter get along fine < 1472402169 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Workers of Saudi Arabia, your salvation from your despot is nigh < 1472402254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49661&oldid=49660 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+22) 10 < 1472402299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49662&oldid=49661 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-5) 10 < 1472402348 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The british raj has capitulated to Japan < 1472402348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49663&oldid=49662 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+22) 10 < 1472402411 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472402462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49664&oldid=49663 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+44) 10 < 1472402474 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long story short I'm playing as Iran, and now I have a land border with Japan < 1472402491 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49665&oldid=49664 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-2) 10 < 1472402584 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49666&oldid=49665 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+1) 10 < 1472402745 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap it looks like the USSR is about to break the pact < 1472402802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: wait, which game is this? < 1472402809 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still Europa Universalis? < 1472402815 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that newer game? < 1472403159 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's not. < 1472403170 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Hearts of Iron 4 < 1472403185 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1472404082 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472404605 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472404701 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472404725 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1472404803 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472404819 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1472404955 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472405182 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1472405214 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472406039 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9500:ffde:c4ac:1943 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472406112 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472406296 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:9500:ffde:c4ac:1943 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472406333 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1472406342 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472406899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, somehow, in 1943, finally the allies and comintern united against the axis < 1472406957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now there are tons of american trops landing in iranian-contrlled syria in onrder to invade egypt < 1472408013 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472408947 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472410614 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472410645 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472410672 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472411726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much do you think should be this effect of Magic: the Gathering card? "Fateseal 4, and then target opponent draws a card." < 1472413029 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472413368 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472413533 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472413931 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472415890 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472416899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49667&oldid=49666 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+261) 10 < 1472417258 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:41fd:b316:5e14:f569 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472417787 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472418144 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472418772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472418787 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god mantis shrimps are cool < 1472418820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have 12 color-sensing cells, plus 4 other non-color sensors (e.g. polarization) in their eyes < 1472418832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they can see things that are transparent, and yet still see what's behind them < 1472418965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god, if transhumanism can get me some of the stuff that other animals have, I'm in < 1472419391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and probably some cephalopod eyes while I'm at it) < 1472420073 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proprioception is weird < 1472420089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of its connection to touch < 1472420117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you feel pain on your arm, you feel the pain coming from where the injured part of your arm /is/, rather than just from the abstract location of "your arm", which could be anywhere < 1472420887 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: why are you in #-blah and not in #-offtopic < 1472420889 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. confusing hth < 1472420911 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should I be in -offtopic < 1472420945 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should you be in -blah < 1472420981 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I was in -blah before < 1472420985 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there drama at some point? < 1472421041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1472421054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them requires TLS. < 1472421097 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472421291 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472421367 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) . scanl (+) 1) < 1472421371 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1472421382 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's lambdabot doing in the timeout department these days? < 1472421385 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49668&oldid=49667 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (-61) 10 < 1472422075 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Tromp gave a talk at the US Go Congress (Computer Go session). < 1472422078 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg82ivcejpgg7o2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472422120 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1472422121 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 282050Z VRB08KT 9999 SCT050TCU BKN120 22/13 Q1021 NOSIG < 1472422344 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472422747 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472423611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making people pay to learn Linux is just wrong < 1472423655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not required to pay to learn Linux; you only have to pay if those are the classes you are entering. Otherwise you can learn in different way you don't have to pay. < 1472423720 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472423896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, but it's still kind of weird < 1472423913 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're paying to learn linux, you probably aren't really in on the spirit of the thing < 1472423924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: After the assassination of Lincoln, what happened to the play? < 1472424068 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't see how this is weirder than paying to learn windows < 1472424083 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Because Linux is Linux and it's all 'bout dat foss < 1472424092 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't learn about linux by reading the source code, usually < 1472424097 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is OK for them to charge the money if they want to, such as if they are selling a book or they have a classroom. < 1472424101 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, no difference there < 1472424103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, but it's still kind of strange < 1472424109 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1472424116 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not required to pay them if you can learn in other ways. < 1472424122 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people sold CDs with openoffice and firefox on them on ebay < 1472424127 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i call strange < 1472424132 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, at the very least, it would be weird to use theirs because there is almost certainly a free one available < 1472424139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That's strange < 1472424154 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do think that is strange. Selling such CDs at a physical store does make some more sense though < 1472424180 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, because of firefox < 1472424198 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell would need a brlwser if he doesnjt have access to the internet < 1472424212 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To view local HTML documents? < 1472424212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I mean, you could argue it's for people who don't have a browser on their computer yet and need to install it by disk < 1472424235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're on ebay < 1472424241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you could be using the app on your phone < 1472424249 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really < 1472424296 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you do have internet on your computer but not the web browser software, if you want to download one, you could still use other software such as wget or ftp (but that won't work if you don't have that software either). < 1472424470 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a disk still helps. < 1472424483 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course on Ebay it won't help so much, I suppose) < 1472424512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either I'm an idiot or this is very subtle < 1472424568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Hallelujah (the one that everybody covers), the line "it goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the minor fall, and the major lift" is played exactly like that (in C Major, at least) < 1472424608 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but tbh, maybe microsoft is not a good comparison. how about suse selling support for linux? < 1472424634 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Also weird. < 1472424672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either you are all-in gung-ho on Linux and Free Software, or you don't use Linux < 1472424674 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hownso, they sell a service that people demand < 1472424675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've seen < 1472424685 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely not < 1472424688 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: The people demanding it shouldn't be using linux < 1472424692 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really care about foss < 1472424713 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use linux because anything else just plain sucks for coding < 1472424734 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think those thing is not a valid excuse < 1472424881 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you should not use linux if you want a reliable server system" doesn't make sense < 1472424892 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472425019 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly BSD is better for a reliable server system, but I don't know. Also, some Linux distributions may be better to make reliable server system than others are. But this Linux does work much better than Windows, at least. < 1472426489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1472426506 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just keep getting emails from Pastebin with deals on paying to learn Linux < 1472426512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it felt like there was an irony there < 1472426516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must've been wrong < 1472426691 0 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472426812 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gbhbbltcqgzdpkek QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472426812 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472426848 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472426848 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472426917 0 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472426998 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eukrryennkkchbbq JOIN :#esoteric < 1472427036 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1472427219 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472427244 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1472427244 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 282200Z 20014KT 15SM FEW035TCU FEW090 BKN150 BKN240 27/21 A2998 RMK TCU1AC2AC3CI2 TCU TR ACC ASOCTD SLP155 DENSITY ALT 1300FT < 1472427451 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472427931 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472428544 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472428597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472428728 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udheznosskkpoxbl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472428762 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Labvakarjan. < 1472428777 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eukrryennkkchbbq QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472428872 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nofrily. < 1472428943 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nofrily? < 1472428968 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a repetition from previous time when you DIDN'T NOTICE hth) < 1472428977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1015241 < 1472428983 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_<... >_>'... < 1472428987 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1472428994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1472429008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i shouldn't have cheated so fast, i probably could have guessed it was baltic with some thought. < 1472429031 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have absolutely no fungotting idea where nofrily could be coming where from. < 1472429039 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCELLENT < 1472429042 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1472429047 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(T) < 1472429064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm godelling slang < 1472429079 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? godelling < 1472429080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :godelling? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472429081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1015241 is 69 and 420, in no particular order < 1472429098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(being the product of the 69th and 420th primes, though I may be doing something wrong as of yet) < 1472429130 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe some random language spoken in Siberia? < 1472429131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think it works < 1472429140 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69th and 420th, with index at 0 < 1472429150 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472429155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wrong continent hth < 1472429171 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's transliterated, i guess < 1472429174 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472429218 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wish to specifically refer to 69 followed by 420, you use 2953336069, and for 420 followed by 69 you use 354319109 < 1472429245 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are there codes for other drugs yet?) < 1472429262 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: those are big numbers. you should do an MTF then RLE to compress them. < 1472429276 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Burmese? < 1472429284 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Never heard of MTF, or at least I can't think of it < 1472429289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1472429293 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1472429314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's still the same continent afaiac hth < 1472429316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1472429348 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1472429375 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472429424 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "-fr-" bit is throwing me for a loop... < 1472429458 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maldivian? < 1472429579 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, are there any numbers for drugs other than pot? < 1472429583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I already asked < 1472429584 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ycovieoiirmwuqkz JOIN :#esoteric < 1472429627 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there is the 2C family, but it's alphanumeric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C_(psychedelics) < 1472429655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'll just treat it as ASCII in that case < 1472429756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: on checking, it seems to be a dead language. it's the last descendant of one you might consider classical. < 1472429817 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not maldivian, anyway < 1472429823 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywlhmnuwljjayxzs JOIN :#esoteric < 1472429823 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pali? < 1472429861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you're still in asia despite my best efforts to tell you that's wrong :P < 1472429871 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops >_>' < 1472430008 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cretan? Minoan? < 1472430016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, nope < 1472430056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do we know any words from those? i don't know.) < 1472430097 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next hint: although dead, it's still used by some < 1472430115 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old Church Slavonic? < 1472430123 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aramaic? < 1472430123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as i implied, i didn't actually know it was dead until right now) < 1472430128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no < 1472430142 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to remember "classical" languages. < 1472430163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well "classical". it depends on your definition i guess. < 1472430197 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liberally classicaly classify languages usually... < 1472430235 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manx? Cornish? < 1472430261 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no. more classical than that, i think. < 1472430319 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next hint: you can blame the muslims for it dying. < 1472430323 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin and lesser Latin? < 1472430331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nope < 1472430354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhelloq. < 1472430369 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salboiliton < 1472430383 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472430397 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. two riddhelloes at the same time. < 1472430417 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think pikhq's one isn't too hard. < 1472430437 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Coptic? < 1472430442 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DING* < 1472430460 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a good one. < 1472430493 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Portuguese? < 1472430521 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guessed pikhq's correctly.
< 1472430530 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was doing weirdo Esperanto, personally. < 1472430584 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Coptic is only mostly dead -- it's still used liturgically. < 1472430586 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot most of Esperanto's suffixes. are -n adverbs? < 1472430648 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :-n is the accusative suffix. < 1472430696 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently the accusative is used in excalamtions, such as "Saluton". < 1472430706 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION learns that chebyshev's first name, pafnuty, is originally coptic.
< 1472430763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i'm pretty sure "dead" does not usually exclude that for languages. < 1472430801 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... Well, it depends. < 1472430815 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coptic is as "dead" as Latin is, and some might call Latin a dead language. < 1472430892 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472430899 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also learns that this is one of the cases where -ev is pronounced -of.
< 1472430937 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin is post-re-de-undead. < 1472431036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw iirc aramaic isn't quite dead, although it's not doing well in the current war zone down there. < 1472431056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they come in ones and twosles, but if they so choozles, before your eyes you'll see hem multiply < 1472431103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :them < 1472431105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think shachaf thinks he's found my secret weakness or something. < 1472431135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or he's got it on his brain himself. < 1472431142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the latter < 1472431154 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is utterly confused by the sudden turn in conversation
< 1472431155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of the former maybe, but one can only expect diminishing returns there < 1472431185 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Aramaic is classed as endangered, but not extinct. < 1472431237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the talmud is mostly in aramaic? < 1472431262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: itym confusel hth < 1472431316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: unconfusel hth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLnADKgurvc < 1472431418 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. It's worth remembering that the Talmud is a large body of writing from various rabbis written post-70CE. < 1472431583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think i sniped myself with that link hth < 1472431637 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the internal rhyme in "because they guzzle up the things you prize" < 1472431641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, semi-rhyme. < 1472431655 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that sort of thing have a name? Are there other instances of it? < 1472431669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am... partially unconfuselled? < 1472431719 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: half rhymes are a thing. < 1472431735 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like thr feel of it. < 1472431746 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1472431788 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That would probably be alliteration, not rhyme. < 1472431838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because" and "guz" seem to rhyme. < 1472431845 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that. Yes. < 1472431850 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a semi-rhyme. < 1472431871 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the actual term for it) < 1472431878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alliteration is scow. < 1472431885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's fine. < 1472431888 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But people make too much of it. < 1472433423 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1472433638 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1472433639 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious pronounced zombie oeverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1472433759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/Crocker/&, and his secret weakness is heffalumps and woozles./ < 1472433761 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious pronounced zombie oeverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker, and his secret weakness is heffalumps and woozles < 1472433772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1472433774 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1472433775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious pronounced zombie oeverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker, and his secret weakness is heffalumps and woozles.. He sometimes < 1472433780 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :double oops < 1472433782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1472433787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1472433944 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Robdgreat < 1472433945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Robdgreat: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1472433963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472433974 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :allo < 1472433982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat: long time no see < 1472433985 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/oeverlord/œverlord/' wisdom/oerjan < 1472433987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472433989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: please fix up the oerjan wisdom entry twh < 1472433999 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what were you aiming for? < 1472434001 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode œ < 1472434002 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0153 LATIN SMALL LIGATURE OE] < 1472434011 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed. How's everything? < 1472434022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spammy < 1472434033 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat: allo. French? < 1472434072 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1472434076 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :murcan :) < 1472434087 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\.\././' wisdom/oerjan < 1472434089 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472434106 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you "He sometimes"? < 1472434132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um you seem to be looking at the pre-reverted version < 1472434135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1472434135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious pronounced zombie œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1472434177 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all is fine now then. < 1472434202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think shachaf perceived some crampiness. < 1472434225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think oerjan perceived some crankiness < 1472434443 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1472434443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. < 1472434459 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still shorter :P < 1472434630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan/s/pronounced zombie/reanimate/ < 1472434630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1472434636 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s/pronounced zombie/reanimate/ < 1472434638 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious reanimate œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1472434667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :word merging through puns < 1472434824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Phantom__Hoover < 1472434824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. < 1472434826 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Phantom_Hoover < 1472434826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman, hatheist, and completely out of the loop. < 1472435142 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hat < 1472435143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatee-hatee-hatee-hooo < 1472435616 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Robdgreat < 1472435617 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472435676 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BARBARIAN CHICKEN < 1472435879 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1472435880 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1472436049 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this all that happens in here anymore? < 1472436102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, sometimes people discuss Magic the Gathering < 1472436120 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1472436140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slightly ironic
< 1472436168 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :only slightly < 1472436443 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the more energetic newbies aren't in at the moment. < 1472436604 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ycovieoiirmwuqkz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472436629 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywlhmnuwljjayxzs QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472436711 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472436831 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :On occasion esolangs also get talked about. < 1472436846 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :While we're often off topic, we all *are* genuinely interested in them. < 1472436875 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this will probably please you: fungot is written in Befunge. < 1472436893 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters, fungot is dead
< 1472436904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1472437193 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472437581 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Douchey Douches Douche Douchily" -- Ernest Hemingway, July 3, 1961 < 1472437698 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-boiqadwaebiskzhu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472437707 0 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1472437713 0 :zgrep!sid43445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pjjpphrtkzluaurw JOIN :#esoteric < 1472438141 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], man you do say some shit sometimes < 1472438154 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I do < 1472438170 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it up though, if it wasn't for you nobody would ever talk about esolangs < 1472438681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( i didn't know Ernest Hemingway made esolangs ) < 1472438704 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn something new every day < 1472439691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472439948 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472439981 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472440082 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA! The Imperial Japanese invaded my Iranian Communist Authority through India, but I encircled them and wiped out 50 divisions at once < 1472440110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all that in canada? < 1472440144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49669&oldid=49668 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+173) 10 < 1472440167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49670&oldid=49669 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+17) 10 < 1472440200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472440409 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, the british are here, to retake the Raj through Kuwait < 1472440433 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pip pip comrades < 1472440594 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, look! I now own Jordan, Syria, and Israel < 1472440612 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472441078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advancing into the Sinai < 1472441480 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472441572 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472441909 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472442066 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-188-188.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472443072 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472443098 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472443116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The concept of choosing one's sexual orientation is mathematically absurd < 1472443131 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1472443153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple game theory tells us that, assuming your choice of orientation does not affect anyone else's, the optimal strategy is /clearly/ to choose bisexuality < 1472443220 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I want to choose asexuality. < 1472443227 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that people react poorly to it, and as such one should be heterosexual. < 1472443231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if it does affect others' choices, unless it specifically affects your contemporaries to choose straight or asexual, you still benefit < 1472443243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That would be nice too < 1472443269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But no one can tell your orientation unless they are informed- sex as a game has imperfect information < 1472443337 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*If* you would not be at risk of significant discrimination for being not-heterosexual, that would be the case. < 1472443363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since the best move for /everyone/ is to choose bisexuality (as, assuming everyone plays optimally, it doubles your dating pool, and under no circumstances does your dating pool decrease), there would be no reason to discriminate against bisexuals because most other people are bisexual too < 1472443383 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people as a whole were game theoretically optimal, yes. < 1472443435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, and people tend to be fairly close to optimal for obvious choices such as this < 1472443451 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet, it's not the case. < 1472443466 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor would it make any sense for it to be the case from an evolutionary standpoint. < 1472443474 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do you want $10 or $20, both given to you right now with no differences other than amount?" < 1472443475 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind, that is not a standpoint many people take!) < 1472443477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, yes, there's that < 1472443507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\$/¤/ < 1472443563 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some amount of the *idea* that one chooses one's sexual orientation comes from certain individuals who are homosexual or bisexual and feel that it's wrong, and then force themselves into heterosexual acts and then loudly proclaim that they chose to be straight. < 1472443599 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472443605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard that though < 1472443609 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, regardless. I'm quite certain it's the case hardly anyone had a time they *decided* to be heterosexual, jusst a time they realized it. < 1472443620 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I could choose, I definitely 100% would've chosen to be bi < 1472443644 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've never heard people say they chose to be heterosexual? < 1472443653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I honestly have never heard that < 1472443653 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not listen to many religious fundamentalists then. < 1472443658 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is probably for the best. < 1472443683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, keep in mind, gays probably have better sex than straight people- sex is never a game with perfect information, but the information is a /lot/ better when you've both had a penis (or vagina) for your entire life) < 1472443716 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* there exist trans people *cough* < 1472443718 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1472443748 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is still decision what you want though, such as only opposite or don't sex (therefore, I want don't sex). < 1472443758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: For the purposes of analysis, we assume that trans people are the gender they identify as- trans men are just men, trans women are just women < 1472443771 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or something more strange than sexual orientation, in some cases, possibly???) < 1472443788 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: A reasonable analysis. This does, however, leave some men with vaginas and some women with phallusses. < 1472443801 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, yes, they are definitely in the minority) < 1472443835 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: To some extent, yes, conscious choices can impact your desires and behaviors. < 1472443842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, asexual is nice too because it decreases distractions and prevents sexual frustration (I assume; I've always just assumed asexuals don't have any form of frustration from never having sex, that they just don't feel any inclination to) < 1472443861 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out, human brains are complex and this includes human brains' sexual behavior. < 1472443891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I suppose that there are trans women who have not undergone surgery... I think it's the majority of trans people, actually. < 1472443903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we just drop them from the equation for now? < 1472443913 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: It is the majority of trans women, yes. < 1472443927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, trans people are negligible as they make up <1% of the population < 1472443944 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think they still benefit from choosing to be bi, it's just that straight sex is better for them < 1472443965 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only game-sex with perfect information is, of course, masturbation) < 1472444003 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Modulo the fact that trans people's sexual responses can be quite different from a cis person's, even with the same genitalia in both cases. < 1472444008 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because psychology. < 1472444012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472444019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot about that too < 1472444036 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hormones can also be relevant. < 1472444046 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyways! < 1472444085 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The general point that there can be factors in sexual orientation that would influence your decision making, resulting in *very* different choices if it were in fact a choice, is quite valid. < 1472444086 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1472444097 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1472444127 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, OK < 1472444141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since people can't know your orientation unless they obtain information- which in theory should be concealable- you can evade most of those issues by being bi but being a little more discreet about gay sex < 1472444160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a bi person having sex with someone of the same gender is still considered "gay sex", right?) < 1472444165 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: And with gay people being more discreet about the straight sex. < 1472444177 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say so, at least. < 1472444185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, but gays at least tend to be more accepting < 1472444196 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though "biphobia" is actually a thing... < 1472444199 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough there can be serious biphobia in some parts of the gay community. < 1472444202 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason... < 1472444208 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah < 1472444214 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly from people who assert that you're not bi, you're just in the closet. < 1472444231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad's boyfriend is a gay man that is homophobic, but only towards lesbians... < 1472444244 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1472444248 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask how it works, I don't know < 1472444397 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds confusing but not unheard of. < 1472444409 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what the fuck is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_hair_texture < 1472444424 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the most OR bullshit I have ever read < 1472444434 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR? < 1472444554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Original Research" < 1472444583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like someone didn't get a job, decided it was because they had curly hair, ranted about it, and made it into a wikipedia page < 1472444617 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I will say, the phenomenon discussed there *is* a real thing. But it's kinda subtle, and is really more a particular manifestation of racism than anything else. < 1472444625 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And this article is crap at discussing it. < 1472444709 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is some undergrad African-American studies student realized there wasn't a Wikipedia article about it and turned a class assignment into it. < 1472444892 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1472444907 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: A bad class assignment at that, but they probably got an A < 1472444919 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1472444936 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-boiqadwaebiskzhu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1472445293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How exactly does the idea of "ablism" work? < 1472445435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :divisaur < 1472445500 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "ableism" is literally discrimination against those with disabilities. < 1472445529 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah < 1472445534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how does that count as injustice? < 1472445556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you are literally disabled < 1472445574 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes broader than simply failing to account for accessibility. < 1472445603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the job likely won't involve a lot of walking, someone with working legs is probably a better hire than someone who's paraplegic < 1472445609 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would be surprised how often e.g. a deaf person is treated as a non-person. < 1472445795 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CUIL < 1472445796 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1472445816 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1472446013 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, compulsory sterilization has happened as late as *2010*. < 1472446024 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US. < 1472446096 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:31.184.238.6110]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472446332 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah, yes < 1472446730 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1472449912 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472449936 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is it possible to change what my IP directs to in a geoip database? < 1472450007 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I want the internet to think I live in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaace < 1472450145 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there isn't: http://fusion.net/story/287592/internet-mapping-glitch-kansas-farm/ < 1472450237 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1472452091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472453439 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gisudnkvxurrpbti JOIN :#esoteric < 1472454715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472457297 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472457472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472457734 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472457910 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472458151 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1472460352 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472469202 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472469237 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:41fd:b316:5e14:f569 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472469298 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472470435 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472470685 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472470686 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but//But is a Trintercal operator. < 1472473691 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in fantasy fiction, nobility ranks come in two suits: the Good ranks are named prince, duke, earl, whereas the Evil ranks are named king, count, baron. < 1472473781 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: RIVERSIDE CHICKEN < 1472473846 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472474121 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472474122 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin//orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line. < 1472474164 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: In which fantasy fiction? < 1472474200 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There definitely are good kings in some fantasy books < 1472474625 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there are evil princes that murder good kings. < 1472474703 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472474778 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lord of the Rings had both good and bad kings < 1472474972 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472475042 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you mean the entire verse, not just the books with that title. < 1472475588 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1472475737 0 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-082.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472475790 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the books < 1472476307 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I can't think of very many evil kings. I don't think Sauron counts as a king, Denethor certainly doesn't, and Théoden wasn't really "evil" even before getting better. < 1472476772 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1472476777 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have no power here! < 1472476855 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, I guess the Witch-King of Angmar counts, though. < 1472476900 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How about the Witch-king of Angmar? < 1472476925 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I *just* said. < 1472476934 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't read that line before I wrote mine < 1472477056 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, doesn't work too well for the Lord of the Ring, which has elf Lords/Ladies and human ruling stewards instead of elf kings/queens. King Ar-Pharazôn of Númenor could count as an Evil king thouhg. < 1472477166 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: the arch-example (which might have popularized this a bit) is Dune, which plays duke Leto Atreides against baron Vladimir Harkonnen. < 1472477233 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tvtrope's take on the nobility titles is (TVTROPES WARNING) http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AristocratsAreEvil < 1472477528 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note though that Galadriel considered turning from an ordinary elf Lady to a beautiful and terrible Queen. < 1472477581 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what determines the kingliness/queenliness of elves, anyway. Thingol was the king of Doriath and Thranduil the king of the woodland elves, but Celeborn, Galadriel and Elrond are all nondescript Lords and Ladies of their places. < 1472477603 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thingol and Thranduil weren't all that evil, though AIUI the latter was a bit of a dick. < 1472477818 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Ingwë, Fingon and Olwë were somehow the kings of Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri, respectively. So it doesn't really seem to depend on having a proper sort of kingdom to run. < 1472477967 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some elves were like "Do we want to have a monarchy" and some said "Sure", and the others "Nah" < 1472478032 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland was supposed to have a king once, but that never went anywhere -- now we just read news about the Swedish royalty instead. < 1472478054 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Finland_(1918) < 1472478108 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poland hasn't had a monarchy in a while now < 1472478194 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472478226 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last monarch stopped ruling in 1815 < 1472478243 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was just a Duke, not a King < 1472478252 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last king stopped in 1795 < 1472478289 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of the Third Partition of Poland < 1472478436 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, Poland has had it rough < 1472479410 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472479422 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 QUIT :Changing host < 1472479422 0 :kaoD!502486b8@unaffiliated/kaod JOIN :#esoteric < 1472479422 0 :kaoD!502486b8@unaffiliated/kaod QUIT :Changing host < 1472479422 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472479584 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.test: points -25.19, score 12.50, rank 24/47 < 1472479685 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.test: points -30.76, score 6.56, rank 47/47 (-23) < 1472479706 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.test: points -25.19, score 10.71, rank 45/47 (+2) < 1472480175 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bardsworthlist http://www.bardsworth.com/?comic=tree-percussions < 1472480180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bardsworthlist http://www.bardsworth.com/?comic=tree-percussions: b_jonas < 1472480486 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Churro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49671&oldid=43972 5* 03Martin Ender 5* (+65) 10add categories < 1472481381 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions < 1472481497 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472481725 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472481826 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472482837 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472483777 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:14f1:7f20:a0e7:4005 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472484036 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:14f1:7f20:a0e7:4005 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472484076 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? strt < 1472484077 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strt? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472485308 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472485312 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-251-116.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472485898 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 4rn4 < 1472485899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4rn4? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472485922 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The 4rn4 has two false goals. < 1472485924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '4rn4': The 4rn4 has two false goals. < 1472485929 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1472485933 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unlearn 4rn4 < 1472485934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unlearn: not found < 1472485937 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget 4rn4 < 1472485939 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1472485950 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The 4RN4 has two false goals. < 1472485952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '4rn4': The 4RN4 has two false goals. < 1472485957 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1472486253 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472486506 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472487203 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just `learn without `forgetting, and then it'll relearn. < 1472487363 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, I was just sort of stupid there < 1472487381 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it would have to use a different filename for 4RN4, but obviously no < 1472488041 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'm looking at the skin color emojis in samsung's new font < 1472488049 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrBBDfbWYAA5z93.jpg < 1472488103 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting that the default is brown haired european, 1-2 is pale asian, and 3 appears to be gyaru. < 1472488524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's a lot of drama apparently because the new iOS font shows 🔫 as a water gun instead of a real gun. < 1472488683 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, having skin tone 3 be gyaru helps a lot because we can use [Emoji Modifier Fitzpatrick Type-3][Man] as Trump. < 1472488811 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a haircut emoji but it's a pity there's no "bad haircut" emoji < 1472489006 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of the water gun thing. < 1472489134 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the impression the main concern was that you think you're sending fun water gun pictures and your friends think you're pointing a real gun at them. < 1472489236 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is already a fun discrepancy with REMINDER RIBBON < 1472489547 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have suggested that unicode encode a water gun emoji in the next round < 1472489731 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: oh, right, some are pink and some are yellow iirc < 1472489817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what yellow ribbon means however < 1472490113 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day someone will make a "create a face app", and it won't have any face rendering code < 1472490121 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll just call the text renderer < 1472490204 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH god no why no < 1472490232 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :text renderers are becoming complicated enough that you could get away with doing that nowadays < 1472490248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd just need a very good font < 1472490374 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am confused by thw last row < 1472490382 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there 6 fingers? < 1472490493 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: OH GOD WHAT I CANT WHY DID YOU TELL ME < 1472490577 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there so many emoji characters, though... < 1472490611 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHy not? < 1472490631 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: nowadays if more than one cell phone maker has it, they generally will encode it < 1472490699 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally, it was because multiple Japanese cellphone makers had filled in the gaps in Shift-JIS with emoji. < 1472490700 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: !help < 1472490737 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Please leave „oerjan“ a Message stating „Thank You very much Dude, that was a quite helpful Message indeed.“ < 1472490752 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone instruct me to achieve that, please? < 1472490753 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unicode consortium aims to encode all writing systems used in human communication < 1472490761 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with @tell < 1472490764 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1472490775 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you @tell user message < 1472490780 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Thank You very much Dude, that was a quite helpful Message indeed! < 1472490780 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472490783 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1472490785 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. ☺ < 1472490787 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win. < 1472490795 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to note that Signwriting is now encoded as unicode, and it needs horribly complicated text shaping algorithms to actually render, because you have to combine lots of modifiers to get a glyph, and there's way too many possibilities to pre-render. It's among the hardest to render scripts encoded in unicode. < 1472490883 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wor one intend only to add emoji once the terminal software makers decide how to render them < 1472490912 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminal software makers have no idea. I mean, in theory you could treat them as 16x16 charcells, but then there's the combining chars and modifiers. < 1472490916 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why they even chose to encode it as characters, rather than a domain-specific non-character-based language like five-staff musical notation or 2d maths notation. < 1472490956 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminals and emoji just don't work < 1472490961 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, right now on most terminals, ☁️ is a half-width character, which doesn't work < 1472490962 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Am I being crazy here?) < 1472490975 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you can now add combining marks to hand signs < 1472490984 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Not really, but it's "against the goal of Unicode" not to encode everything < 1472490995 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there is a way to encode five-staff musical notation in Unicode < 1472490998 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the newest version of unicode made emoji fullwidth. < 1472491026 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I don't think that's how it works. They only want to encode characters, not formatting. < 1472491042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I need to wait for terminal software to catch up < 1472491058 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, Things need Time to evolve. < 1472491065 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, presumably, editors and such) < 1472491111 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION switched back from „mosh“ to „ssh“ because my „glibc“ cannot correctly parse „😸“ yet.
< 1472491134 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't intend to ever have colors in my font < 1472491143 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :With good old SSH i only see a Rectangle, but under „mosh“, i see just nothing at all, a blank Space, which is much worse for me. < 1472491174 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Term: rxvt-unicode, for the Record) < 1472491176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using this through two tmuxes and ssh, and I see a fullwidth cat < 1472491187 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is nice. ☺ < 1472491189 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the cat is covering up the und quote < 1472491197 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/und/end/ < 1472491200 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: They do encode formatting already, in a way. < 1472491201 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not that good. < 1472491205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: U+000A < 1472491232 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Also RTL/LTR overrides < 1472491238 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: there are a lot of different space and endline variants < 1472491253 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1472491263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just goes to show that they were encoding formatting from the start < 1472491264 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :           ​‌‍‎ < 1472491268 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, look at the text we have in like our sacred books, say the complete works of Arany János or some other literature. Apart from two handfuls of non-ascii characters like áéíóöőúüűAÉÍÓÖŐÚÜŰ–…„”»« and fixed with space which I still don't know if it has a unicode encoding, it uses italic. A lot of italic. Plus a couple of levels of indentation sometimes. The italic isn't supposed to be encoded as characters, and usually is < 1472491279 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ Plus a couple of levels of indentation sometimes. The italic isn't supposed to be encoded as characters, and usually isn't. < 1472491341 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Above, if you're using my font, you'll see that I compromized by putting in small abbreiations for what kind of space it is < 1472491372 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you aren't, you have no idea! < 1472491388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm < 1472491403 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under, "General Punctuation" < 1472491432 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's completely normal that text contains formatting stuff that isn't characters, like at least italic and headings (chapter titles) and block quotes and the occasional centered row of stars separator, and possibly also line breaks and paragraph breaks and multiple levels of indents, although the latter ones are easy to represent as characters. < 1472491476 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: right, that's the opposite choice as I made in my font. in my font, space characters and the nul character are the only ones that do have a glyph but it isn't distinguishable from ordinary ascii stuff. < 1472491496 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italic exists in unicode for latin letters < 1472491522 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not supposed to be used for anything except math < 1472491528 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: isn't that supposed to be for _math_ italic variables, as opposed to italicized text? < 1472491534 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that < 1472491567 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would usually look wrong for text, and might not have all the necessary characters (you'll need an italicized hyphen at least, which maths doesn't use). < 1472491569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I don't recognize their authority to set rules < 1472491591 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, now I wonder which punctuations ever appear italicized in Arany János poems. < 1472491609 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I might not recognize unicode's authority, but math italics and text italics are distinct things to me. < 1472491614 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I designed my font in such a way that italics will look ok as running text < 1472491659 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: do you have like a full set of italicized common punctuation marks, for italicized text? possibly in a separate font? < 1472491660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as will the cursive/script latin < 1472491667 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Unicode already has „Yellow Heart: 💛“, why should not it have „Yellow Letter A“, or „Yellow Letter π“, also? < 1472491689 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I'm not doing colors. < 1472491707 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terminals we have a better way of doing colors < 1472491768 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1472491793 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :msee? < 1472491807 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why does that look wrong < 1472491867 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5see? < 1472491873 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there we go < 1472491937 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what happens if I do 3,5☁️ thsi < 1472491955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid emoji, i wanted a green cloud < 1472491988 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3,5 ☁ test < 1472491994 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there we go < 1472492002 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the non-emoji cloud works < 1472492881 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline QUIT :Quit: K-Lined < 1472493075 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472493497 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is 900% stupid. < 1472493542 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :citation needed < 1472493591 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do design UTCE deliberately omitting complex scripts and stuff that is not easily rendered in terminals, since it is designed mainly for terminals anyways (not for typesetting). (For typesetting, a system like TeX and METAFONT, perhaps a bit more extended, would help more.) < 1472493760 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It is what has evolved naturally. Nature as a Whole is also way > 100% stupid. < 1472493854 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid, dumb, and yet we're talking here... < 1472494005 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH, I consider Unicode less stupid than the ways to encode it < 1472494029 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH, if it wasn't for UTF-16, we might have been able to just use bitfields instead of combining char madness < 1472494045 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is the way it played out < 1472494086 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my UTCE design? < 1472494120 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find it. Is there a link? < 1472494131 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472494140 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Taking advantage of UTCE fonts is still possible even if you are running programs that use ISO 2022 instead.) < 1472494161 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472494167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/utce < 1472494204 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already see an issue with this. < 1472494215 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a reason UTF-8 avoids the 0x00 to 0x7F area... < 1472494236 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like C compilers tend to treat the input as ASCII, < 1472494280 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do know that things. And, normally you still would treat input as ASCII. I try to make the compromise. < 1472494329 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it looks like, say, \x80\x20 would be valid. < 1472494355 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 would be better if all multibyte characters were the same length < 1472494358 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The codes less than 0x80 that are used are those which are unlikely to cause problems with ASCII parsers and with text strings that don't use other encodings.) < 1472494371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: It isn't valid. < 1472494402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, "unlikely to"... < 1472494408 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :issue is that "unlikely" is an odd thing < 1472494431 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How it will be interpreted is implementation dependent. My suggestion is to display a single-width error indicator followed by a space.) < 1472494437 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it could be 03xx,02xx,02xx alawys < 1472494499 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I actually think UTF-8 is fine as it was, before they banned anything that wouldn't work in UTF-16. < 1472494539 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think UTF-8 is fine, although Unicode is not fine. < 1472494567 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I came up with an encoding that uses the "infernal planes" characters to encode common ansi sequences smaller < 1472494580 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, Unicode's a mess, that's for sure. < 1472494609 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "Worse Is Better" reminds me of "War Is Peace", somehow. < 1472494649 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "\300\301" could encode bold instead of "\e[1m" < 1472494691 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not valid utf-8 because "\300\301" would be a redundant encoding of "\1" < 1472494715 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, I mean "\300\201" < 1472494871 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I divide unicode into "material plane" 16 bit characters, "astral plane" characters, "infernal plane" redundant utf-8 encodings, and "supernal plane" utf-8 characters that can't be encoded in utf-16 < 1472494997 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing how languages which claim to support international stuff use UTF-16 for everything < 1472495009 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline QUIT :Quit: K-Lined < 1472495020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just leaves them at square one, really... < 1472495081 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "supernal plane" means stuff outside of Unicode range? < 1472495111 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, numbers beyond the range of UTF-16, but still in the range of UTF-8 < 1472495117 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't outside of Unicode range. It is now, but it wasn't really until UTF-16 came along that it was really restricted... < 1472495131 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472495160 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder... < 1472495172 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays there is no possible way you can even handle the codepoint 0xABCDEF12 in Java. You can't even get the data in, because everything's been sufficiently UTF-16'd. < 1472495198 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Can you create an array of 32-bit numbers and use that as storiage instead of an array of 16-bit numbers? < 1472495214 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you're doing your string handling manually from that point on. < 1472495242 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e '\300\361' < 1472495242 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\300\361 < 1472495244 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And things that take, say, filenames... < 1472495251 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In JavaScript, strings are lists of 16-bit numbers, although there is also Int32Array and that stuff too; those are objects and not strings though.) < 1472495266 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\300\361";' < 1472495266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Àñ < 1472495274 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1472495293 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it did utf-8 naively then that would just be '1' < 1472495329 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472495331 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\300\261";' < 1472495332 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​À± < 1472495353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap I always forget the start bytes and end bytes < 1472495393 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\340\202\234";' < 1472495394 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :â€‹à‚œ < 1472495536 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also in JavaScript, fromCharCode and charCodeAt treat the data as raw 16-bit numbers, while codePointAt and fromCodePoint treat the data in the string as UTF-16 instead. Both are useful, I think.) < 1472495538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' < 1472495538 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :â€‹ð€€± < 1472495571 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472495653 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' | iconv -futf8 -tutf8 < 1472495654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: illegal input sequence at position 0 < 1472495691 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See what utftovlq does with that? Also see what hd does with that. < 1472495800 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' | iconv -f10646-1 -tutf8 < 1472495801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion from `10646-1' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1472495809 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' | iconv -f10646-1/utf8 -tutf8 < 1472495809 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion from `10646-1/utf8' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1472495817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' | iconv -f10646-1/utf-8 -tutf8 < 1472495818 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion from `10646-1/utf-8' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1472495835 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' | iconv -fiso:10646/utf-8 -tutf8 < 1472495835 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion from `iso:10646/utf-8' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1472495841 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\360\200\200\261";' | iconv -fiso:10646 -tutf8 < 1472495842 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion from `iso:10646' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1472495945 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6w04sln4tvg8j.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472495987 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472496743 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472496884 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got a letter from Taiwan, containing the SD cards I ordered, and on the envelope, they printed almost the whole address correctly, including all the non-ascii letters. Nice. < 1472496907 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should count my blessings. < 1472496918 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Taiwan. Of course they have to support Unicode. < 1472496975 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: you'd think that. < 1472496989 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1472497050 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, this particular vendor seems to support unicode fine. They don't support international mail address formats, but that's basically impossible with these stupid fixed format forms. < 1472497098 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes it sound like a miracle it arrived in one piece... < 1472497120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure why they should support one without the other < 1472497123 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472497185 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: Why? they printed the address almost correct. It should arrive correctly, because the post does generally support international mail, even if they can't handle it in bulk like they can handle PROPERLY formatted mass mail within borders. < 1472497306 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :International mail address formatting is sort of like personal names. You can't make any sane form for it, because there's an infinity of different formats, ever changing by time, and for mail address formats, you can often only find information in various local languages. < 1472497370 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only way you can accept any name is to take a SINGLE free-form text input, and the best you can do with international mail is two free-form fields, one containing the rest of the address, and one containing the country, and you force the latter to upper case. But few people do this with mail addresses, because that would just lead to lots of us < 1472497370 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er errors, < 1472497387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once paid a thing in Japan using a wire transfer. < 1472497394 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the people who order also don't understand mail address formats, and enter random junk. They don't even read the guide from the local post office written in their local language. < 1472497399 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` uname -a < 1472497400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1472497405 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :UML owns < 1472497405 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The clerk was very confused by the address I gave < 1472497425 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'll test if these SD cards actually work, and have the speed they promise. < 1472497436 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the people at the Japanese bank figured it out somehow < 1472497438 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether Jeff Dike is a Woman, a Man, or something in between, or none. ;)
< 1472497455 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` top < 1472497466 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1472497468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1472497477 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin < 1472497478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472497480 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1472497482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice \ bin \ canary \ candide \ cdescs \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ le \ lib \ ls \ misle \ out \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ ps \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ theorems \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1472497486 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin < 1472497487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472497487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ < 1472497490 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; ls < 1472497490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ asm \ autowelcome \ bardsworthlist \ before \ < 1472497512 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; cd 2017; ls < 1472497513 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: cd: 2017: Not a directory \ ` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ \ ! \ ? \ ?? \ ¿ \ ' \ " \ @ \ * \ ؟ \  \  \  \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ 1 \ 1492 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 7z \ 7za \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addtodo \ aglist \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ arienvenido \ as86 \ as < 1472497519 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; file 2017 < 1472497520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2017: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable < 1472497530 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2017 < 1472497530 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd bin; ls -la 2017 < 1472497530 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472497531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 79 Jan 1 2016 2017 < 1472497541 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2017 hello < 1472497541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472497551 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/2017 < 1472497552 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi < 1472497561 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016 < 1472497564 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn < 1472497569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2016 < 1472497569 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1472497570 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong World ;) < 1472497574 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2015 < 1472497574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1472497577 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1472497578 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1472497583 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`export < 1472497585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: export: not found < 1472497586 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2014 < 1472497586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472497589 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2015 < 1472497591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1472497596 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/2015 < 1472497598 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo $PATH < 1472497598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) != "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi < 1472497598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$PATH < 1472497606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/2016 < 1472497606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah, international mail transfer is sort of strange too. banks ask for the IBAN number (a nice standardized format number that uniquely identifies the recipient account), name of recipient, name of bank of recieving account, and the town of that bank (how the fuck should I know that?). < 1472497607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi < 1472497630 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it's like train tickets: < 1472497651 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472497663 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? ¿ < 1472497663 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ¿ < 1472497664 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015 puzzles me < 1472497669 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ?? ¿ < 1472497673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: hw: command not found < 1472497685 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do international bank transfer and international train tickets with handwritten form, which is basically impossible for in-country train tickets or bank transfer, because in-country is too automated to mess with any handwriting. < 1472497701 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date +%Y < 1472497701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016 < 1472497713 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have magnetic strips < 1472497740 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall there's also numbers just in case that fails, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a barcode < 1472497762 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: OCR < 1472497765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: for what? < 1472497769 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :train tickets < 1472497775 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1472497797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472497815 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just talked to the clerk to do the bank transfer, so I was like, you need the number three, then c h o m e, then nishi, that's n i s h i < 1472497833 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, most train tickets are just plain printed to special paper, except for train tickets you print at home (as opposed to buy from home and print it from a self-operated machine at the big stations), which has some sort of machine-readable barcode, < 1472497838 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on it was a huge pain < 1472497855 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because the home-printed one doesn't have a special paper to prove its authenticity, so they need to check it more carefully that you're not just making up all the data. < 1472497922 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They probably check anyway, even with special paper or magnetic stripes < 1472497945 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly there's the ticket entry gates < 1472497954 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are likely network-connected if not anything else < 1472497972 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's the fact the trains generally have poor Wifi, bet it works a lot better for the ticket inspector's machine < 1472498007 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could use an offline protocol < 1472498012 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472498027 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, you need to be able to verify the ticket wasn't reused < 1472498054 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: They don't check the tickets you buy at a station. The controller just reads it and marks it without using any electronics. He must trust the special paper, because there's nothing on it they could verify in their head. (Controllers aren't require to be able to compute public-key cryptography in their head.) < 1472498085 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: that's why they punch a hole in your ticket < 1472498126 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure there's a device they use, but who knows. It's been a while since I was last on a train. < 1472498126 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472498141 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: they put a marking with a pen to make sure you can't reuse them. the marking is just a four digit number (handwritten ugly) that identifies which train you're on, plus, if it's not the same date as the first valid date on the ticket, the date. < 1472498150 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Here (Germany) they just stamp Ink on it, they do not punch a Hole < 1472498166 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. I last took a train in 2013 or so before they shut down the Ontario Northland line. < 1472498166 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That much is basically enough to check you're not re-using the ticket. < 1472498191 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not completely, but almost, as in, all the ways you could reuse it are very impractical and you can't gain much from them. < 1472498203 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And sometimes risky too.) < 1472498224 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually much harder to cheat than on the Budapest public transport. < 1472498236 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472498257 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: there's an electronic device the controllers use for selling tickets on the train, and for checking self-printed tickets. < 1472498272 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't use that for ordinary tickets. < 1472498295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I also took the Shinkansen, but that was all electronic with magstripes, I'm not even sure the train had an actual driver < 1472498330 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ticket gets read when you enter the stations, and again when you leave < 1472498347 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might even be written < 1472498359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what? you need a driver for any train unless it's all in an underground tunnel, don't you? You might not need a _controller_, but you need a driver. < 1472498455 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was the narita-tokyo line, the whole line is closed in with fences < 1472498473 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of it is raised < 1472498534 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: is it closed enough that even medium-sized animals can't cross it level? < 1472498550 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly < 1472498553 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472498576 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can close a surface train line that well. < 1472498586 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's possible in Japan, I dunno. < 1472498596 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of the line is inside city < 1472498601 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, the Train in Nuremberg here is also only in the Underground < 1472498647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only get a few minutes of rice paddies before you start having the train pass within a few feet of buildings onboth sides < 1472498670 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you can literally look into some people's bedroom windows < 1472498685 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: the new M4 metro line is completely underground and without drivers (but instead it has two or three attendants at the platform of every station plus people watching it remotely, so I'm not sure how much they gain from no drivers) < 1472498735 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1472498749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it would be like to take the narita-tokyo line at say, 11 pm < 1472498754 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :People just trust humanoid Figures way too much. < 1472498800 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, a cardboard cutout works just as well as a real driver < 1472498824 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, a driver who is asleep < 1472498836 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah < 1472498843 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :NPC < 1472498917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a driver who is trying to catch pokemon by hurling pokeballs at them as he passes by them at 300 km/h < 1472498939 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Pokemon Go infects train drivers < 1472498942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all doomed < 1472498977 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the narita line only goes at like 150 kmh becuase of you know, passing right by houses < 1472498990 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are doomed by the Matrix no Matter what happens. < 1472499003 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you took like the tokyo-osaka line, lol < 1472499012 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw this at a park the other day: https://zem.fi/tmp/pgo.jpg < 1472499033 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The park was full of people playing.) < 1472499047 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1472499066 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: dunno, despite that it creeped me out when I saw a tram driver messing with his handheld mobile phone in the same station where a careless pedestrian stepped under the tram just a day before (he turned out to be our new co-worker, who started working that day, and didn't get seriously injured); < 1472499099 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't blame them for putting a sign like that up... At least it's not one of those graveyards with pokestops in... < 1472499109 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual fact is that bus drivers and tram drivers manage to drive an order of magnitude safer than the car drivers, and this is quite consistently true because it applies to both Europe and America. < 1472499146 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god what if someone showed up to a burial and it was like "how did you know him?" "look, a dragonite!" < 1472499160 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was before Pokemon Go, but after smartphones.) < 1472499209 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry, it won't be the case anymore. < 1472499225 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking to wob_jonas, BTW. < 1472499247 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, people will show up to burials talking about dragonites. < 1472499309 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472499310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a memorial to Marc Bolan nearby here, around the place where he died in a car crash. < 1472499313 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolan%27s_Rock_Shrine < 1472499319 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Pokémon Go gym. < 1472499341 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I'm not sure. Aren't Pokemon Go players and bus drivers somewhat different age groups? Also, I expect the Pokemon Go craze will get much lower in a year, when people realize the game doesn't live up to its expectation and the great premise, and companies start to make better games like that. < 1472499364 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is slow. Is my SD card reader slow? Or the motherboard or what? I don't get it. < 1472499370 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a bus criver who is 31 or so < 1472499372 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is supposed to write fast. < 1472499383 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: What is „this“? < 1472499391 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably, IO to an SD card. < 1472499393 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: testing speed of new SD card < 1472499402 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by writing large files to it < 1472499408 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees.
< 1472499420 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSD-Memory is Rocket-Science B-) < 1472499462 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I need a newer SD card reader or something. Or a newer computer. Definitely a new computer, this one is old, regardless of this SD card thing. < 1472499510 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google-branded Cell-Phones stopped supporting removable microSDs because of the Driver-Hell < 1472499547 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Nexus 5X has „/sdcard“ on the non-removable 32GB-Storage < 1472499570 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :While my Nokia N900 has 32GB internal eMMC _and_ a microSD-Slot < 1472499583 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what driver hell? they seem to just work for me. I thought they just stopped with removable micro sd because wireless transfer through wifi and bluetooth got well supported enough, plus they want to push people to store their files online. < 1472499588 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves his N900. Would not have bought the Nexus. Got it from a rich Friend as a Present
< 1472499606 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know what Hell specifically. Just read about it. < 1472499621 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Driver hell is true, but not about SD cards I think. < 1472499622 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION really needs a Hardware-Keyboard on his main Phone
< 1472499630 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for other hardware. < 1472499635 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1472499646 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But don't believe me, I'm not a hardware guy. < 1472499654 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, this is really slow < 1472499665 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a Discordian and thus forbidden to believe whatever he reads. B-)
< 1472499677 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic, the sky is generally considered to be blue. < 1472499687 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the performance thing, as I think wob_jonas is currently finding out. < 1472499687 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1472499707 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, APic, what do you now believe people generally consider the sky to be? < 1472499713 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sky sometimes _looks_ blue, from a given Perspective. < 1472499730 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes down "the depth, it is too much for me"
< 1472499735 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot answer that Question generally. It is way too subjective. < 1472499752 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, i am more the Breadth-first-Dude < 1472499756 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is important about the Question such that it is Capitalized? < 1472499771 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Capitalizm has nothing to do with any Question. < 1472499783 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1472499784 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION melts to the floor
< 1472499790 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1472499798 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues watching the Simpsons S01E11
< 1472499924 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to use a CSS code to make text in multiple columns of a printout? < 1472499991 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I dunno < 1472500203 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I doubt it but I think you can use enscript or something iirc < 1472500232 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nvm the command is called a2ps < 1472500255 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The data I have is in a table that spans multiple pages. Using column-count for the body just causes it to omit all but the first page from the printout; it doesn't actually do what I want. < 1472500261 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a2ps --columns 2 < 1472500276 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result needs to be HTML though. < 1472500280 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will output postscript that you can sent directly to the printer < 1472500295 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I need the output to be HTML. < 1472500314 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wait, do you want a long table? or to break text to columns automatically? < 1472500360 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a long table with many rows. I want it to fit the rows that don't fit on one page first on the top on the right of the page, and then once it reaches the bottom of the right part of that page, to start on the next page. < 1472500439 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Display of this document on continuous media is irrelevant; this document is only intended for paged media.) < 1472500473 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so a long table in multiple columns. dunno, maybe try to read https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-multicol/ and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/column-width and stuff like that < 1472500546 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you hadn't said that the output needs to be html, then I'd just suggest to load the html to some office program like libreoffice or ms office, then set the section to multiple columns there, and output an office document (not html) or the rendered printable version. < 1472500574 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that probably won't work well if you need html output. < 1472500575 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could probably write a program to process it into a series of tables, one on each page, some of which have twice as many rows < 1472500588 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, columns < 1472500614 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice as many columns, simulating a paginated, two-column formay < 1472500639 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much fit on one page will be unknown at compile time though! < 1472500734 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you need html, then I say study those css documents, experiment with browsers and printing (to file); and if all else fails, as a fallback, print in single columns wasting half or more of the paper. < 1472500796 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3812:8db7:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472500814 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just use print preview to test it; I need not use up any paper to test it or print to files. < 1472500908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it seems this wrote the files with 0.13 megabytes speed. That seems very wrong. Even the old SD card reader or anything else (operating system, motherboard, hard disk) shouldn't slow it down that much. < 1472500920 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what I messed up with the test. < 1472501506 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm testing the speed of reading back now. < 1472501976 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure, but my guess is that it's a problem with the operating system, and it's doing the IO inefficiently somehow. < 1472501982 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunoo. < 1472501987 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe driver indeed. < 1472502159 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472502336 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, I'm stupid < 1472502341 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm completely stupid < 1472502346 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I can't even do a division < 1472502399 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472502411 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write speed was 7.6 mebibytes per seconds, which is not great, but much more realistic, read speed was 13.9 mebibytes per second, also not great but realistic. < 1472502669 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my utf handing code currently falls back to latin 1 in the event of error. Maybe it should fall back to different encodings depending on the kind of error < 1472502710 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what encoding would be most likely to include long sequences of high-bytes < 1472502792 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472502831 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how long? it could be utf-8, I think, when you encode long paragraphs of text in a cjk script. < 1472502876 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean suppsoe you have two start bytes in a row? what encodign would be most likely to include that? < 1472502880 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472502895 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I cannot get "page-break-before: avoid" to work. < 1472502899 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is parsing utf-8 but I want it to be very permissive < 1472502978 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "avoid" is not supported in Firefox. < 1472503016 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472503018 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I'll figure that out later. for now, all invalid bytes to latin 1 < 1472503066 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be awesome if a single decoder could intelligently handle various encodings mixed < 1472503116 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that you should not mix multiple encodings unless there are some kind of control codes or other commands in the file which specify where the encoding changes. < 1472503140 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472503167 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or in cases where the multiple encodings can't interfere, such as UTF-8 with ASCII, or UTF-8 with 7-bit ISO 2022.) < 1472503179 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but this comes up often when a web page has no encoding marked, and people take it as various ascii-based encodings. < 1472503179 0 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472503188 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when multiple people post < 1472503206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their posts are encoded, each, in the encoding that was default on their system < 1472503230 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence the resultant comment section is full of mojibake < 1472503313 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then whoever reads/receives the files should be allowed to override the encoding (in Firefox this is possible in the View menu). < 1472503355 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the point is when this happens, you have a single file containing text on several encodings unmarked. < 1472503357 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yeah. I've seen (non-html) files at work that has xml tags, but contain both utf-8 and some byte encoding in different fields. has no encoding declaration. < 1472503538 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it might help to add something that can be called from GreaseMonkey or Stylish to declare specified elements as encoding-contexts. < 1472503539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472503611 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would then allow each encoding-context to be set separately according to the user's setting, which can be either auto-detect or set manually, and the context menu can set the encoding within that context. < 1472503670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472503683 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472505183 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3812:8db7:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472505272 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472505493 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472505578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-82.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472505703 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1472506399 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Where do you get the rule "d(x^2) = 2x dx"? < 1472506427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I know the answer. But what does it mean exactly? < 1472506447 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means what it is. < 1472506455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's the type of the argument to d? < 1472506489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it an expression that may have free variables? < 1472506536 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1472506551 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if Wikipedia or something else mentions? < 1472506552 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but you said it the other day. < 1472506558 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Wikipedia page? < 1472506564 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what I would read to make sense of it? < 1472506571 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One about differential calculus I suppose. < 1472506608 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell the argument to d could be anything < 1472506665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mysterious. < 1472506675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(xy)=x dy + y dx, right? < 1472506686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it, like, know, man? < 1472506763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It knows by the rules of mathematics. < 1472506875 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the value of this expression? let x = 5 in dx < 1472506914 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the I should ask a major general about differential calculus. < 1472506937 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is zero, assuming x cannot change. < 1472507446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49672&oldid=49670 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+8) 10 < 1472507584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about this: let x = 5 in d(x^2)/dx < 1472507586 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10? < 1472507588 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472507621 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472507635 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472507649 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 QUIT :Changing host < 1472507649 0 :kaoD!502486b8@unaffiliated/kaod JOIN :#esoteric < 1472507649 0 :kaoD!502486b8@unaffiliated/kaod QUIT :Changing host < 1472507649 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472508360 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472508459 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.first: points -9.60, score 16.93, rank 20/47 < 1472508649 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38bf:1ec1:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472509056 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472509265 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, alpine is confusing when the timestamps are in different time zones < 1472509296 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent an email and got the reply almost 3 hours before I sent it < 1472509409 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does sound confusing < 1472509464 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the timestamp on the reply is in santa clara time, but my email's timestamp is in Toronto < 1472509673 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472510028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how we write codepoints in hex. octal would be more suitable for utf-8, and for utf-16, base 32 would be more suitable. < 1472510188 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472510322 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in base-32, upper surrogates are all AV** and lower surrogates are all AW** < 1472510452 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here plays on zenhill? I'm trying to do nesting but failing at it < 1472510460 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zem < 1472510463 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would octal make more sense for UTF-8? < 1472510495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said that octal is more suitable for x86 encoding. < 1472510503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't read the argument. < 1472510510 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: because all start bytes are 03xx and all continue bytes are 02xx < 1472510538 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each continue byte gives you 6 bits < 1472510548 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I could see that being the case, because at least Z80 is laid out in a way so that opcodes group neatly if you express them in octal < 1472510565 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1472510568 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess so < 1472510576 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have a code point in octal, you could just divide it into continue bytes easily < 1472510606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttp://www.orenwatson.be/utf8guide.htm < 1472510612 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/utf8guide.htm < 1472510617 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1472510698 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD: A few, but none of them seem active right now. < 1472510713 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1472510726 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the encoding looks cryptic as all hell if you have your code point in hex, but in octal it looks trivial < 1472510736 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running the thing, but I'm not much of a BF Joust player myself. < 1472510872 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, perhaps you know how nesting works? < 1472510885 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest avoid (>)*9 ([ ([ ([ - ]>)*21 ]>)*21 ]>)*21 < 1472510885 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly, if you have an astral plane code point in base 32, then you just subtract B@@@, take the first two digits and add AV@@, and take the last two digits and add AW@@ < 1472510885 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.avoid: points -11.90, score 11.11, rank 43/47 < 1472510910 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest avoid (>)*9 ( ([ {-} ]>)*21 )%3 < 1472510911 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.avoid: points -25.71, score 7.67, rank 46/47 < 1472510929 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get different score, but they should be the same, I think < 1472510967 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD: There's no difference between * and % in the implementation, so the latter is interpreted as (>)*9 ( ([ {-} ]>)%21 )*3 < 1472510998 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472511020 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, any workaround? or is what I'm doing nonsensical? < 1472511090 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always find it very hard to reason about these things. You might or might not get what you want by having more {}s. < 1472511103 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rule of thumb is, {} always "binds" to the next "available" pair of ()s. < 1472511169 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, will think through it < 1472511170 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1472511181 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1472511222 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6w04sln4tvg8j.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472511245 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a(b{c{d}e}f)%2 g)%3 -> abbc abbc abbc d effg effg effg and so on. < 1472511336 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is there a standalone version of this preprocessor people can play with? < 1472511398 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: There's no preprocessor, generally you'd end up with huge programs if you actually tried to expand all of it. Instead the (, {, } and ) are just non-time-taking jump instructions with a counter, and a ({-loop counts to a different direction than a })-loop. < 1472511416 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1472511449 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not to say you couldn't write a piece of code to expand things, and I think there are some BF Joust implementations that do it. < 1472512303 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1472512304 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1472512441 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472512942 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sghello! < 1472513091 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472513154 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472513247 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mklang? < 1472513536 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472513552 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472513673 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mklang < 1472513674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mklang? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472513697 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kalloD, fizziello, he\\oren\, Sgello, mynamello. < 1472513717 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I give up. What does `? do? < 1472513735 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering at times the majority of the activity in here consists of it < 1472513736 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rellobdgreat! it queries the wisdom database! < 1472513755 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can take a formatted look at it in the PDF in the /topic ↑ < 1472513770 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom # for a random wisdom entry. < 1472513771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1472513774 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472513775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slwd//`slwd // < 1472513778 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472513779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetual motion machine//Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy. < 1472513783 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472513784 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ something like that. < 1472513784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wealhtheow//Wealhtheow is the barkeep in the tavern where the adventuring party of Beowulf meet at the start of the story. < 1472513800 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1472513800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. The name is a euphemism for "beef". bf -c -t "+>+++++>+++" | mklang --array < 1472513826 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it only respond to authorized users, or does the emperor have no clothes? < 1472513839 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1472513839 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? it started with, like, an ø? < 1472513854 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472513856 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural transformation//A natural transformation is a transformation of something containing no chemicals. < 1472513863 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robdgreat: should respond to anyone < 1472513889 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see nothing < 1472513894 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1472513909 0 :Robdgreat!~rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I ignored the bot last time I was in here >.> < 1472514045 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1472514055 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd do it < 1472514480 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor hackego < 1472514724 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.avoid: points -11.90, score 11.11, rank 43/47 < 1472514780 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutine time! < 1472514793 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DESSICATED CHICKEN < 1472514970 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust sorry >[]<(+)*100000 < 1472514972 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:38bf:1ec1:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472514972 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -12.07, score 15.98, rank 16/47 < 1472515171 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -11.86, score 16.31, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472515653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472515790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* le me, reading the wikipedia page "Syllabary" < 1472515795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Waaaaaait" < 1472515813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Syllabary is most commonly CV CV CV CV" < 1472515846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sih-lah-bai-ree" < 1472515904 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice how all your vowels are diphtongues < 1472515906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1472515915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Ah, yes, true < 1472515945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a dipthong could be allowed in a Syllabary; no reason it couldn't be < 1472515988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IPA can spell "hay" in 2 symbols, even though it's h+(eh+ee) < 1472515990 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is so crazy < 1472516021 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in german, a, e, i, o and u are single sounds < 1472516032 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english, only e is < 1472516035 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq < 1472516048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I want a Syllabary or Logogrammery or Abugida for English. < 1472516054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, I'm not really sure < 1472516089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're said in such a smoothly-chained way that, until I first read about "dipthongs", I didn't realize they were 2 sounds < 1472516119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, a, e, i, o, and u all make several different noises, and some of them are dipthongs < 1472516155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the best way to explain writing systems is through Batman, assuming the language is always English) < 1472516163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabet: batman < 1472516180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abjad: btmn < 1472516200 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should add unvoiced vowels to wnglish, just because fuck you everybody < 1472516213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, I want to do that too < 1472516221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've yet to find such thing as an unvoiced vowel < 1472516239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abugida: b,tm,n (or something, probably move the ,s to be more diacritical) < 1472516254 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can exactly pronounce one word with such thing < 1472516259 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that word is sushi < 1472516266 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the trailer for dead sushi < 1472516334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syllabary: Something like (with symbols in [brackets] being stacked vertically) [_o/][~o^] < 1472516348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logography: Picture of batman < 1472516469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abugida and syllabary, I guess < 1472516518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, syllabary (the new one, not the old one) is more of an impure abjad < 1472516606 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472516738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu < 1472516756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If we were using a the Latin Abjad, your name would just be 'd' < 1472516758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? IPA < 1472516760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPA? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472516773 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/zmwgmt7wcv8 chom choms :D < 1472516778 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1472516813 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I see: ¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯ < 1472516876 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\([ZERO WIDTH SPACE])/¯ < 1472516909 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/^ ([ZERO WIDTH SPACE]) o/^ < 1472516918 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD: do you realize that your program is equivalent to ....(+)*-1 ? < 1472516925 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am tempted to actually use that word < 1472516927 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1472516941 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually just ...(+)*-1 < 1472517025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The IPA (short for International Phonetic Abjad) is an international standard encoding all non-vowel sounds in all spoken languages, and is used to indicate the pronunciation of words. It is incredibly useful, unless you need to pronounce a word. < 1472517027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ipa': The IPA (short for International Phonetic Abjad) is an international standard encoding all non-vowel sounds in all spoken languages, and is used to indicate the pronunciation of words. It is incredibly useful, unless you need to pronounce a word. < 1472517028 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chom chom mussins < 1472517097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*muffins < 1472517109 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am too tired < 1472517129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[note 1] on the wikipedia page for the IPA is "The acronym 'IPA' strictly refers [...] to the 'International Phonetic Association'. But it is now such a common practice to use the acronym also to refer to the alphabet itself (from the phrase 'International Phonetic Alphabet') that resistance seems pedantic. Context usually serves to disambiguate the two usages." < 1472517145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever wrote that clearly doesn't really get the IPA < 1472517182 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1472517184 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why did you put a ZWSP in it again? < 1472517219 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472517226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I didn't, HackEgo does it automatically so that it doesn't alert people who are idling < 1472517242 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alert people... < 1472517248 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused < 1472517255 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472517334 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something special about ZWSP that bypasses the rules of search? < 1472517441 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you saying there is a user named °_o and if you were to use that, then you would notify them, and so you use °[ZWSP]_o so that you don't wake them up? < 1472517445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adu < 1472517446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know adu? Adu adu adu adu adu! < 1472517468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Most peoples' clients beep when someone says their name < 1472517482 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya i know < 1472517490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I keep prefacing my messages with 'adu: ', so you know that I just replied to you] < 1472517492 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine flashes the screen, but it's the same principle < 1472517498 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but I'm still confused about the ZWSP < 1472517499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes, that counts too < 1472517530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: The ZWSP prevents most clients from alerting the user < 1472517532 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472517543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because usually when HackEgo says someone's name, it isn't actually talking to them < 1472517547 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is there a user named "°_o"? < 1472517583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, but HackEgo can't really tell who is and isn't a user, so it ZWSPs... everything, I guess < 1472517595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Does ZWSP prevent most clients from looking later in the message? < 1472517612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client beeps, the tray icon flashes until I open it, and the message is highlighted in green < 1472517612 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1472517617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472517629 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's test < 1472517629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: But the [ZWSP] only appears one time per message? < 1472517635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472517640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that I can do things < 1472517640 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, every time you do the crazy eyes < 1472517650 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "hppavilion[1]" < 1472517650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1472517659 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the crazy eyes, I only see "¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯" < 1472517660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: One time per HackEgo message, I mean < 1472517674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It alerted me then < 1472517679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try again with my client closed < 1472517680 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "hppavilion[1] "x2;' < 1472517680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1472517712 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print ("hppav"."ilion[1] ")x2;' < 1472517713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also got alerted there < 1472517713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1472517726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1472517732 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question has absolutely nothing to do with alerts, or username, my question is why is there a ZWSP in "¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯"? < 1472517740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print (("hppav"."ilion[1] ")x2);' < 1472517740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, the thing meant to prevent me from being alerted doesn't work quite right on my client < 1472517742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1472517748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it highlights up to the ZWSP < 1472517753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yeah, I'm not sure at this point < 1472517762 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, didn't know -1 is infinite expansion < 1472517762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there ZWSPs in any other HackEgo messages? < 1472517770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Is there a ZWSP here, adu? < 1472517771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a ZWSP here, adu? < 1472517774 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: only the crazy eyes < 1472517777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1472517779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a joke? < 1472517788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure then < 1472517798 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a typo (mistake) that everyone has been copy-pasting until the end of time < 1472517808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had to guess who knew, it'd be oerjan, Taneb, or ais523 < 1472517816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sdfghj < 1472517816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdfghj? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472517827 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472517837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does mine have a zwsp? < 1472517852 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, that line looks like: sdfghj? "¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯" < 1472517864 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes < 1472517880 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your line looks like <\oren\> ¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯ < 1472517888 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let me try to enter it manually < 1472517903 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is necessary to not compose stuff < 1472517924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472517927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1472517936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '¯\(°​_o)/¯' | od -c < 1472517937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 302 257 \ ( 302 260 342 200 213 _ o ) / 302 257 \n \ 0000020 < 1472517951 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '¯\(°​_o)/¯' | xxd < 1472517952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: c2af 5c28 c2b0 e280 8b5f 6f29 2fc2 af0a ..\(....._o)/... < 1472517960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: In that case, it's either added by the server or by your client < 1472517969 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust sorry ->[]<(+)*-1 < 1472517971 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -11.86, score 16.31, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472517981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode I don't see it on my end < 1472517982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0027 APOSTROPHE] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0074 LA < 1472517991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whops < 1472517993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whoops < 1472517995 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\342"' < 1472517996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(â < 1472518020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472518020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00AF MACRON] [U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS] [U+0028 LEFT PARENTHESIS] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+005F LOW LINE] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0029 RIGHT PARENTHESIS] [U+002F SOLIDUS] [U+00AF MACRON] < 1472518022 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\342\200\213_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(​_o)/¯ < 1472518034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. < 1472518042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok why < 1472518047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, so the ZWSP is built into the ¯\(°​_o)/¯- at least as copied from \oren\ < 1472518074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and without it the degree sign doesn't show up < 1472518082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Probably so the degree sign doesn't merge with the _ or something? < 1472518106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess it's added by either the outgoing client or by the server (probably the former) < 1472518138 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The zero-width space is added to any HackEgo output that doesn't start with letters (for some definition of letter). < 1472518155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but it came from \oren\ too < 1472518164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know where \oren\ got it < 1472518175 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it wasn't at the start < 1472518180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume e copied it symbol-by-symbol from a unicode page < 1472518185 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know about that. But when HackEgo does it, it's a botloop prevention thing -- bot trigger characters tend to be [^A-Za-z0-9]. < 1472518186 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besodes noodling, hackego does not change output < 1472518194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah < 1472518205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo *i < 1472518205 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472518206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*i < 1472518211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Did it appear there? < 1472518213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\343\202\234_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(゜_o)/¯ < 1472518222 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now lets see without the ZWSP, what do YOU SEE? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472518233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's normal for me < 1472518243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode > ​*i < 1472518243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+002A ASTERISK] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] < 1472518249 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The degree symbol is not a combiner < 1472518250 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Copy-pasted from the *i output.) < 1472518259 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you shouldn't have to combine it with anything < 1472518278 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do, then that's a bug in your OS < 1472518290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1472518338 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what do you mean it "doesn't show up?"? < 1472518350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the zero-width space *inside* the face is to stop the old myndzi script from triggering. < 1472518351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472518364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: when I do < 1472518369 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\342\200\213_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518369 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so we wouldn't get the stick figure bodies for every non-existent wisdom. < 1472518370 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(​_o)/¯ < 1472518387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see (_o) as the face < 1472518428 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\302\260_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472518435 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooo < 1472518441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind < 1472518481 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(ﾟ_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(ﾟ_o)/¯ < 1472518514 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm I think ﾟ fits better than ° < 1472518523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Bah! Why not!? < 1472518557 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(ﾟ_o)/¯ < 1472518576 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -e 'print "\302\257\134\050\302\260\342\200\213\137\157\051\057\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518579 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e 'print "\302\257\134\050\302\260\342\200\213\137\157\051\057\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472518584 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\134\050\302\260\342\200\213\137\157\051\057\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472518588 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ask oerjan, I guess: http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/fec2e65e53bc < 1472518607 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is perl doing < 1472518655 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -e 'print "\342\200\213"' < 1472518671 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\342\200\213"' < 1472518672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​ < 1472518689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1472518689 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic said 7h 45m 8s ago: Thank You very much Dude, that was a quite helpful Message indeed! < 1472518718 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\302\260_o)\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)¯ < 1472518721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hi < 1472518840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because having every nonexisting wisdom come with extra multiline noise got old _fast_ hth < 1472518945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf 'evning < 1472518965 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472518986 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472519008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not see that one coming. < 1472519055 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519109 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519139 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? + < 1472519139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, why don't we still have that?) < 1472519140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472519147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\0/ < 1472519156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: protip: you can use ` with perl -e if you _don't_ quote the command hth < 1472519234 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472519240 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea < 1472519255 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine an esolang where you can define functions < 1472519271 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have lua varargs and tail call optimization < 1472519274 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing else < 1472519281 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write complete programs with only that? < 1472519285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: are you different from APic? you have different whois but i am getting a bit confused. < 1472519302 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm Soni... who's APic ? < 1472519317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thankfully du isn't a picture format. i think.) < 1472519347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: who are you twh < 1472519359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems idle. < 1472519394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: have you heard of lambda calculus or combinatory logic? < 1472519414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or unlambda, an esolang based on the latter. < 1472519424 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the inspiration for the idea, kinda < 1472519452 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472519460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric hold em < 1472519464 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any lambda calculus with tracing JIT? < 1472519478 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like it'd be very efficient < 1472519482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me. < 1472519488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("there is no apostrophy in "em" because "em" in this case is the proper pronoun, not the quasislang term) < 1472519499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/apostrophy/apostrophe/ < 1472519500 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just considering my experience with tracing JITs and tail calls and varargs < 1472519510 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(altho I guess lambda calculus doesn't have varargs...) < 1472519571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do varargs in lambda calculus < 1472519596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need a way to pass the number of arguments. < 1472519628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, you can use a church numeral.) < 1472519668 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that sounds hard to trace... < 1472519683 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll stick with luajit :/ < 1472519697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also, why don't we still have that?) <-- please clarify "that" hth < 1472519723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "old myndzi script" < 1472519730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That adds bodies to stick figures < 1472519734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds AWESOME < 1472519748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something that you should be kept far away from hth < 1472519778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: very clever hth < 1472519778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ask myndzi < 1472519784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thx < 1472519798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hand < 1472519805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: myndzi is a bot, isn't e? < 1472519814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope < 1472519818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472519822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Hi? < 1472519844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what e is, is 23 hours idle. sigh. < 1472519879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( Face cards for King/Queen, as normal, plus Bishops, Knights, and Rooks )
< 1472519888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no jack, I guess) < 1472519903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I've never really understood Jacks.) < 1472519908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Who the hell is Jack?) < 1472519910 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472520021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know his surname is Shit, and no one understands him. < 1472520030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*know is < 1472520076 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of people seem to know him though < 1472520216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the same kind of people who could care less. < 1472520675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could care less. < 1472521188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The suits in #esoteric hold em are, of course, Clovers, Clubs, Tiles, Diamonds, Amethysts, Aquamarines, Emeralds, Rubies, Sapphires, Moonstones, Sunstones, Opals, Topazes, Turquoises, Ambers, Ivories, Pearls, Hearts, Livers, Gallbladders, Pancreases, Stomachs, Small Intestines, Large Intestines, Bladders, Lungs, Kidneys, Spleens, Pikes, and Spades, plus the extra Tarot suit < 1472521214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Double Fanucci is simpler. < 1472521236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original 15 suits (Mazes, Books, Rain, Bugs, Fromps, Inkblots, Scythes, Plungers, Faces, Time, Lamps, Hives, Ears, Zurfs, and Tops) each have eleven cards, valued at 0-9 and Infinity. The face cards are as follows: Granola, Death, Light, the Snail, Beauty, Time, the Grue, the Lobster, and the Jester." < 1472521258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add Pentacles, Swords, Cups, and Wands too < 1472521317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1472521498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also, you cannot play a king until we've figured out exactly who's king right now, as it's a very convoluted issue that we've been trying to figure out for at least 8 years < 1472521505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1472521506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg < 1472521564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each Queen in the deck can be either a Queen Consort, Queen Regent, or Queen Regnant < 1472521607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also need a Drama Queen hth < 1472521619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so you have the French suits, Latin suits, and Fanucci suits, and also many others. < 1472521673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, Pentacles are really just a style variant for the suit of Coins; some tarot decks have pentagrams on the coins, but this is not a requirement.) < 1472521749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1472521763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know about differential geometry? < 1472521769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Drama Queen is in the same "Suit" (the "other suit") as Joker < 1472521817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Two-Face, Harley Quinn, Clayface, Man-Bat, and Killer Crock < 1472521820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuxedo hth < 1472521828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am not sure < 1472521830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sure? < 1472521840 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does differential geometry mean? < 1472521850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you would know. < 1472521858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale told me there are no good books on it. < 1472521873 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the Wands are really simply Rods. The kind of rods may differ between decks, so in some cases they are wands.) < 1472521897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought spivak's books were recommended? not that i've read any. < 1472521918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a Pawn card defeats a King, it becomes Lord Protectorate, which is /definitely/ not a King (but is really exactly the same in every way) < 1472521990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Which ones? < 1472521995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of game is that anyways? < 1472522014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the ones with pictures, i think. < 1472522015 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we had a game mixing up mahjong with shogi < 1472522024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not _Calculus on Manifolds_? < 1472522031 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I did try to think of such thing at one time but I don't know how < 1472522033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps? < 1472522046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have that one. But it's not the one with pictures. < 1472522048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are asking me about something i've explicitly told i haven't read? < 1472522055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1472522056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're thinking of https://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Introduction-Differential-Geometry-Vol/dp/0914098705 and so on. < 1472522064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The earth revolves around the Sun, but only while it's waxing" < 1472522065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY < 1472522123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe the Pawn could also become General Secretary hth < 1472522142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472522173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took a course which had some calculus on manifolds in it. IIRC I got a good mark in it. I don't really remember much of it though < 1472522190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Do you know Stokes' theorem? < 1472522214 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1472522216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ has been completely stoked < 1472522267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgXObaM9i2Q ? < 1472522278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says the integral of something over the boundary of a thingy it equal to the integral of the thing's derivative over the whole surface < 1472522294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1472522306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. What are these things? < 1472522327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, the first thing is a differential form < 1472522337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second thing is probably a manifold < 1472522339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those? < 1472522350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I read to be an expert in differential forms? < 1472522393 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a differential form is basically a function < 1472522460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's equipped with a thing that tells you which way the output is oriented < 1472522477 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472522511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you have a f(x,y) -> (u,v) and you know the directions in which u and v are pointed you have a differential 2-form f < 1472522521 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472522572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472522727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the derivative stokes theorem refers to, < 1472522747 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a thing thattells you not only the slope but which way the slope goes. < 1472522803 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472522826 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if your function f(x,y) outputs only one thing u, then df outputs two things, the slope over x and the slope over y, at that point < 1472522909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so then if you take the derivative of a 2-form f on a 3-manifold then you get a df that has six dimensions of output < 1472523075 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :effectiively stokes theorem implies, amog other things that if there's some net flux outward from an area, then that net flux has to originate somewhere in the area < 1472523186 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody ever made a system of serious government with "referee" as a position one can hold? < 1472523244 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Absurdly long attention span. We'd fill this with several dozen novels' worth of text, but Freenode can't handle it. | The string theory channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808 < 1472523404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: well norwegian doesn't have separate words for referee and judge, so... < 1472523414 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472523424 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that technically applies... < 1472523427 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472523454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Am I supposed to register my backup nicks? I assume so, but I haven't yet) < 1472523487 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the NS GROUP command. < 1472523496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes < 1472523520 0 :hppavilion[1]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[2] < 1472523540 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472523570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Absurdly long attention span. We'd fill this with several dozen novels' worth of text, but Freenode can't handle it. | The interdisciplinary string loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808 < 1472523658 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1472523671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Absurdly long attention span. We'd fill this with several dozen novels' worth of text, but Freenode can't handle it. | The interdisciplinary string loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1472523683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venerarchy: The awesomer you are, the more power you have < 1472523686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you already made it too long tdnh < 1472523691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent < 1472523713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audaciarchy: The most absurd policy automatically wins < 1472523731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs now howl < 1472523742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know wolves typically only bark when they are pups? < 1472523743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google the dogs now howl < 1472523745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavior/barking-and-howling/why-do-dogs-howl < 1472523751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mature wolves don't usually bark < 1472523755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Like cats meowing < 1472523759 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I just went and dug up my textbook. It's http://fourier.math.uoc.gr/~papadim/calculus_on_manifolds/Munkres.pdf < 1472523779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but due to a spot of the neoteny, dogs never fully mature or something < 1472523780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A policy is proposed, and a time limit is set to propose alternatives. At the end of the time limit, the most audacious policy is approved) < 1472523787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Any opinion on Munkres? < 1472523788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As chosen by an impartial third party) < 1472523794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: You said you hate everything. < 1472523823 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for some reason it is online in full in that professor's home directory < 1472523843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is that, eventually, equilibrium is reached- in order to get a policy you like more approved, you have to make it so ridiculous that it defeats the purpose < 1472523869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("We set up a program to offer medical care to people who need it, but it is only available to married bachelors") < 1472523875 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's nice of him, many students can';t afford textbooks with the tuitions these days < 1472523893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neotenarchy: The most childish people make all the decisions < 1472524300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1472524301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious reanimate œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1472524323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're extraordinary, so better be wary < 1472524461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Michael O'Leary appears to be the Irish Trump < 1472524516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: In differential forms, d(dx) = 0, right? < 1472524572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laudarchy: A type of democracy where the winner is chosen via applause-o-meter < 1472524607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should get a twitter account hth < 1472524962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitarchy < 1472525084 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've only heard of his topology text < 1472525095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one is well-known. < 1472525299 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fourier.math.uoc.gr/~papadim/calculus_on_manifolds/Munkres.pdf -- skimming through this, it looks pretty decent actually < 1472525332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, integrals and things are pretty magical. < 1472525349 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might actually not suck, I'm surprised < 1472525367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I already ordered Lee. < 1472525372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll try reading that. < 1472525423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The derivative of f is so constrained that its integral can be evaluated just by looking at the values of f at the boundary. < 1472525442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there other things in maths that are like that? < 1472525483 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, complex analysis takes that kind of thing to an absurd level :) < 1472525493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472525495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I've heard that. < 1472525503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn all about complex analysis too. < 1472525521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I meant outside analysis. < 1472525541 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472525717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472525772 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my head, it's similar to the way that in an ordinary category, if you have a polygon which commutes, there's nothing to say about why. (Thinking of 1-categories as a special case of higher dimensional ones.) < 1472525812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do mean? < 1472525825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you have equality rahter than isomorphism or something? < 1472525834 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that polygon is the boundary of something which is uniquely determined by it. < 1472525858 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't usually even talk about that thing, in classical category theory < 1472525871 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of the "witness" that the diagram commutes < 1472525916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is continuity related to naturality? < 1472525922 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472525929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How related? < 1472525964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's the sort of obvious thing that you can't change the behavior of a natural transformation or continuous function at just one point. < 1472525969 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the usual analogy is that categories are sort of like spaces, and functors are sort of like continuous maps between those spaces, and then natural transformations are like homotopies between continuous maps < 1472526009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. But I don't think that's what I'm talking about. < 1472526018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make functoriality correspond to naturality. < 1472526022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, to continuity. < 1472526078 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for given F, G: C -> D, the natural transformations F -> G are the same thing as functors C x I -> D, where I is the category with two objects and one non-identity arrow: 0 -> 1. < 1472526098 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so natural transformations are like continuous maps of a particular sort < 1472526113 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's still not what you're after < 1472526166 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry, not just any functors of that type < 1472526181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The European Cheek Kiss thing (henceforth ECK) is akin to a US hug < 1472526199 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functors H: C x I -> D for which H(-,0) = F, and H(-,1) = G < 1472526215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in France, a US hug is about the same as a ECK is to Americans < 1472526254 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(henceforth ECK) < 1472526254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At what longitude (and perhaps latitudes, if it isn't a perfect vertical line) do these switch? < 1472526275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: >.< < 1472526283 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ECK < 1472526283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECK? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472526285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is it a hard switch, or is there a region of transition? < 1472526313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :During which ECK and hugs are equally acceptable or unacceptable (and which?) < 1472526314 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that region is called the Atlantic Ocean < 1472526335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: But even in international waters, it's weird near the US but not near Europe < 1472526361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is there is a transition zone, and in the Northern hemisphere they're both acceptable whereas in the Southern hemisphere they're both weird < 1472526655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[July, 2026] "Good evening. Leading off tonight, a recent McGill University study finds that every Montreal resident between ages 16 and 60 has had sex with everyone else" < 1472527054 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there aren't so many people in Montreal at that time, I would expect such a thing to be unlikely. < 1472527269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472527640 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1472527661 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to live stream my desktop with VLC, but youtube isn't getting it < 1472528053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] you seem to be mistaking Europe for a country tdnh. ECKs aren't really acceptable in norway between nonrelated adults. < 1472528053 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472528312 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We realized that we were looking at something that no one had ever seen in the wild before. Literally a click on a link to jailbreak an iPhone in one step" < 1472528316 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what comex did? < 1472528326 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did jailbreakme require more than that? < 1472528569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you guys see this https://gaming.youtube.com/user/0r3nw4750n/live < 1472528591 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm testing this stupid streaming thing < 1472528687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I can barely see anything, so... < 1472528727 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit low resolution but yes < 1472528752 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you hear my voice ok < 1472528756 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472528773 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit lagged though < 1472528789 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both video and sound are behind. I was a bit confused at first < 1472528795 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good now I'm gonna try to get a game to run at the same time as the streaming thing < 1472528886 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should try streaming Worms Armageddon at some point < 1472529312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472529408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Trump20000000000000000016 < 1472529419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1472529420 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 22m 46s ago: you seem to be mistaking Europe for a country tdnh. ECKs aren't really acceptable in norway between nonrelated adults. < 1472529461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh. But OTOH, they aren't really accepted between related adults either in the US, or at least they're a little weird < 1472529464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and barely then, actually. < 1472529471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nvm < 1472529493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i thought you meant they were accepted in france (which i've also heard) < 1472529503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are < 1472529539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely, you would use hugs for greeting in norway, and you'd want to be somewhat close even then. < 1472529556 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have W:A installed! < 1472529560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise defaulting to handshake) < 1472529676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Norway is basically the US, except with happier people, better healthcare, public taxes, free university, and more singing ice queens. < 1472529682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEP < 1472529690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, ice queens? < 1472529696 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe we should give Minnesota back to Norway. < 1472529698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be slightly out of the loop there. < 1472529766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess you might be referring to that frost thing. which is based on a danish tale, anyway.) < 1472529815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: When did Norway own Minnesota? < 1472529820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Frozen. It's called Frozen. < 1472529824 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally? Never. < 1472529828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472529835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: see, i'm out of the llop. < 1472529847 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In effect? Well, Minnesota is basically Norway only with English, fewer fjords, and more lakes. < 1472529847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did it ever pwn Minnesota? < 1472529856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been called than in norway. checking... < 1472529864 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Minnesota was largely settled by Norwegians) < 1472529868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1472529878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't seen it, anyway
< 1472529890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has read the fairy tale at one point
< 1472529924 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@unaffiliated/digitalcold QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472529932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, The Snow Queen does take place in Denmark (Daneland?) < 1472529961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it starts there, it does have some travelling northward. < 1472529993 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472529997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty sure Frozen takes place in Norway (the appearance was based on going to Norway and looking around) < 1472530024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure. < 1472530048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much reindeer in denmark. < 1472530055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, one of the big plot points is that SOMEBODY freezes the fjord < 1472530094 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472530131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, well, a minor plot point that is mentioned by name once, and is really just a smaller-level symbol of the general badness happening) < 1472530231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has Trolls < 1472530273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Numerous other typical cultural Scandinavian elements are also included in the film, such as [...] Fjord horses, clothes...." < 1472530282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD IT HAS A MAYPOLE < 1472530305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49673&oldid=49672 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+222) 10 < 1472530313 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maypole isn't uniquely Scandinavian though. < 1472530413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THAT'S, LIKE, 1 LEVENSHTEIN AWAY FROM 'MAPOLE' < 1472530440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(embarrassingly, I needed to find an online calculator for that) < 1472530479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49674&oldid=49673 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+70) 10 < 1472530546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two men apparently bicker over whether wood should be stacked bark-up or bark-down < 1472530870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472532692 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of my Dungeons&Dragons character are Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe and Zeux Agem. Do you like these (two difference) way to make up the name of your character? < 1472533207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533534 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472533543 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472533559 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533564 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533580 0 :hocktineg!~melvin@99-195-207-152.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533647 0 :hocktineg!~melvin@99-195-207-152.dyn.centurytel.net PART #esoteric : < 1472533998 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: obviously, bark up < 1472534021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that helps stop the wood from rotting if your tarp gets blown off < 1472534096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Or does it? < 1472534105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm sorry, has Norway not invented science yet? < 1472534110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To solve this issue efficiently? < 1472534145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, does \oren\ have eir IRC client set up so e can queue messages until someone comes back online?) < 1472534364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is bark-up and bark-down a political thing? xD < 1472534448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like bark should be up so water can't get in, and so that water that does get in would- in theory- seep out the bottom (while if the bark was on the bottom, it would all pool there) < 1472534460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on the other hand < 1472534465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mumbles something about evaporation
< 1472534716 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: No \oren\ just runs his irc client on a constantly-running web server, and is pretty much always online assuming he is awake < 1472534799 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence I just 1wait until people come back online, and then start typing < 1472534851 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh am I mixing up mirc codes with ansi codes again < 1472534884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wait until people come back < 1472536126 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472536685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472536862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472537443 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472537768 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472538489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ☬ < 1472538491 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+262C ADI SHAKTI \ UTF-8: e2 98 ac UTF-16BE: 262c Decimal: ☬ \ ☬ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1472538514 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, that is the sikh symbol... the name is completely wrong < 1472538663 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the symbol is called Adi Shakti in Sikhism. < 1472538685 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the sources I can find say it's called a Khanda < 1472538740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti appears to be a goddess < 1472538748 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from hinduism < 1472539100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472540803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472540880 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4c99:e8f7:9f21:c0c8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472541154 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472541314 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472541766 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1472543286 0 :Citrux!~Splintah@104.200.151.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472543305 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472545007 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472551865 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472551916 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472554632 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4c99:e8f7:9f21:c0c8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472554790 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472554864 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472554884 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1867:85b6:26b4:6196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472554921 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1867:85b6:26b4:6196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472555470 0 :Citrux!~Splintah@104.200.151.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472556189 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472556591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* 10New user account < 1472557795 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472557796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but//But is a Trintercal operator. < 1472557954 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline QUIT :Changing host < 1472557954 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/euncs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472558040 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/euncs.kline QUIT :Changing host < 1472558040 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472559171 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472559511 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472559531 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472560126 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: LIMESTONE CHICKEN < 1472561692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:ℒight14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49675 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+3) 10Created page with "wat" < 1472561998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472562247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472562671 0 :Trey13!~Trey13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:f5d3:10e7:eacc:6fee JOIN :#esoteric < 1472563159 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472563166 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472563362 0 :Trey13!~Trey13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:f5d3:10e7:eacc:6fee QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472564323 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472564917 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: I'm confident that lua ia Turing complete < 1472566113 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1472566164 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472566792 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472566891 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472567337 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1472567397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Questionable Content is copying the idea from qwantz that you can read tomorrow's strip today if you subscribe. < 1472567789 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472567889 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472571033 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472571830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that would lead to problems every time there's a cliffhanger < 1472573268 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1050 < 1472573269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1050: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1472573291 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1472573308 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why? subscribed people experience the same comic, just shifted about a day in time < 1472573418 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the issue is if subscribed people comment on say, twitter about it < 1472573486 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472573558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those? < 1472573863 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: maybe < 1472573908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's absolutely not a problem with qwantz, and probably not much a problem with Questionable Content, since it rarely has cliffhangers that are suddenly resolved in a strip. < 1472574245 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who just moved arin.ga to a new host < 1472574329 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd i broke it < 1472574427 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472574478 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fixed it < 1472574508 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke it again -.- < 1472574798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to diagnose website failures with all the caching that goes on < 1472574827 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a cacheless mode for firefox < 1472574917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead you have to know to hold shift while pressing the reload button < 1472575224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can disable using firefox's cache at least, with the developer tools (or with certain plugins) < 1472575248 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the server or proxy it contacts might still be doing some caching) < 1472575485 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472575978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033\133\062\111foobar";' < 1472575979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472575990 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033\133\062\101foobar";' < 1472575990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576018 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[31mfoobar";' < 1472576018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[3Afoobar";' < 1472576028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576061 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[2Jfoobar";' < 1472576062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576103 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so irssi at least doesn't let ansi sequences go through and mess up people's terminals < 1472576144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\tfoobar";' < 1472576144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foobar < 1472576240 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all fixed woohoooo \o/ < 1472576394 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think that might be replaced HackEgo-side maybe < 1472576464 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not? hm < 1472576902 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472577013 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[3mfoobar";' < 1472577013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[2mfoobar";' < 1472577029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577038 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[4mfoobar";' < 1472577039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[5mfoobar";' < 1472577043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, irssi supports blink but not underline? < 1472577083 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see the underline < 1472577086 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no blinking < 1472577106 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's apple terminal < 1472577108 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm surprised HackEgo doesn't filter out \033 < 1472577118 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :weechat seems to render the \x1B as '?' < 1472577182 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[6mfoobar";' < 1472577183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[7mfoobar";' < 1472577191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577196 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse video < 1472577212 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[9mfoobar";' < 1472577212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577218 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi by default supports these escapes too, in addition to IRC formatting < 1472577247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[92mfoobar";' < 1472577247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577254 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[102mfoobar";' < 1472577254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577260 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bright colors < 1472577262 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "\x02Bold test\x02"" < 1472577264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1472577268 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "\x02Bold test\x02" < 1472577269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Bold test < 1472577277 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that doesn't get filtered out either < 1472577291 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: but that's a mirc escape < 1472577295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[1mfoobar";' < 1472577296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577311 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "Really important" < 1472577312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Really important < 1472577341 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some clients render inverse video as italics < 1472577351 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see reverse video with underline < 1472577381 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[4mfoobar";' < 1472577381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577385 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn < 1472577388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t work < 1472577397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I think HackEgo only handles those three bytes specially that can't appear in an irc message protocol-wise. < 1472577407 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1472577423 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'll filter out \x01 ? < 1472577430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\x01foobar";' < 1472577431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.foobar < 1472577438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other bots differ, eg. jevalbot doesn't let you print colored stuff < 1472577453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: no, \x01 is only a client convention < 1472577455 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the easy solution is to filter out all control characters < 1472577459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\tfoobar";' < 1472577459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foobar < 1472577468 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a reverse video I < 1472577475 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It did filter \x01 out though < 1472577502 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: did it? < 1472577508 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at the raw stuff < 1472577521 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It replaced it with a . < 1472577523 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I misremembered then. does it also change \x10 ? < 1472577551 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does \x10 do? < 1472577581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\20foobar";' < 1472577581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1472577615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a reverse video P < 1472577633 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's how irssi displays ^P < 1472577642 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\x10foobar";' < 1472577642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577651 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x10 == \20 < 1472577660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fewer characters < 1472577662 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, seems HackEgo doesn't filter it out < 1472577691 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x0A will definitely be treated specially < 1472577734 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "foo\x01bar";' < 1472577735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.bar < 1472577740 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is to prevent CTCPs < 1472577749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "foo\12bar";' < 1472577750 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1472577782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: isn't the ctcp already prevented by the prefix it puts at the start of the message? < 1472577800 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What prefix? < 1472577809 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily. if you go ""by the spec"", CTCPs are supposed to be allowed anywhere in a PRIVMSG < 1472577816 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and even multiple times) < 1472577816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\200";' < 1472577817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​€ < 1472577833 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it prefixes lines with a ZWSP I believe < 1472577834 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone actually care about that spec? < 1472577838 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1472577840 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1472577844 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some weird clients do, I think < 1472577881 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Lemme look at my logs < 1472577888 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prefix \xE3\x80\x8B < 1472577930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\xE3\x80\x8B"' | od -c < 1472577931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 343 200 213 \ 0000003 < 1472577992 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so many stupid specs. I care about what the servers actually do (which isn't very well documented, so the best way to find out is asking on the #freenode channel and TIAS) and what other people usually send through their client < 1472578048 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't see the ZWSP looking at my logs with a hex editor < 1472578062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc -e '8i20o30013p' < 1472578063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :300B < 1472578076 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode 300B < 1472578078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 300B < 1472578079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​》 < 1472578087 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1472578128 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\xE2\x80\x8B"' | od -c < 1472578128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 342 200 213 \ 0000003 < 1472578135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc -e '8i20o20013p' < 1472578136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :200B < 1472578142 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 200B < 1472578143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​ < 1472578164 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 200B < 1472578164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B] < 1472578176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\xE2\x80\x8B"' | unidecode < 1472578177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472578177 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: hm yeah, I dunno < 1472578183 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I misremember < 1472578198 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it only adds that prefix in some cases, or something < 1472578201 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode `perl -e 'print"\xE2\x80\x8B"'` < 1472578201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] < 1472578206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1472578222 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I've checked the rawlog, no prefix there either < 1472578232 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I can't see any either when I look < 1472578233 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally translated ​ into the prefix < 1472578252 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a zeero width space, it's invisible < 1472578271 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try setting your broswer to windows 1252 < 1472578289 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should see ​ in front of every hackego message < 1472578292 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472578309 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm not using a web browser to look at IRC < 1472578312 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at the logs < 1472578351 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess I could open the logs in Firefox, won't change anything though < 1472578386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will if you go to view->encoding->western(1252) < 1472578413 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's bizzarre < 1472578418 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't it show up in the hex editor? < 1472578423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will allow you to see the raw bytes, with the encoding as seen here http://www.orenwatson.be/cp1252.htm < 1472578448 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472578453 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does prefix only certain messages < 1472578507 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\tfoobar got prefixed < 1472578512 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.bar didn't get prefixed < 1472578532 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's not in front of every hackego message, only a few of them < 1472578653 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472578838 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird, maybe just ones that contain a possible bot prefix at the start? < 1472578876 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: All the ones starting with control characters had it at the start < 1472578995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allowing CTCPs anywhere in a message is something that my client does. < 1472579053 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472579127 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: one of the better pages on CTCP that I've found is http://www.kvirc.net/doc/doc_ctcp_handling.html < 1472579973 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472581127 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's see if this works < 1472581139 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472581157 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it doesn't < 1472581306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, it doesn't for me, because the script is running on my irssi < 1472581311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1472581330 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472581410 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472581410 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472581411 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1472581736 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, I'll learn how to make bots later < 1472582649 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472583396 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472583399 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1472585187 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472585338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hipumpkin < 1472585513 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472585704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... I need to figure out how to respond to messages. < 1472585882 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/ automatically./ < 1472585960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586508 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472586632 0 :puck1pedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586688 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586688 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586688 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586688 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586695 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586724 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586724 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586724 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586727 0 :puck1pedia!?@? NICK :puckipedia < 1472586736 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :New rule: You use two spaces after a period, but one of them has to be zero-width < 1472586777 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for < 1472586793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586803 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two halfwidth spaces is better. < 1472586863 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither makes any sense < 1472587048 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1472587133 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587440 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472587480 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587516 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587575 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587581 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587593 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587624 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587636 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472587664 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472587701 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:79e1:f5d4:a0ce:5ddd JOIN :#esoteric < 1472588345 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472588353 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472588353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472588362 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1472588368 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. < 1472588374 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the pong first < 1472588386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, beacuse of latency. lol < 1472588472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472588912 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISO 2022 code with ESC % should be define for use with UTCE. Even if selected, other DEC 7-bit codes should remain available as done in the terminal emulator that it is implemented in, such as VT100 character graphic shift outs and some of the other ISO 2022 codes that are supported by DEC terminals. < 1472589008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472589008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472589014 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1472589019 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it would need to be register according to ISO 2375, but I don't know how that is working. < 1472589029 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472589029 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472589034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1472589045 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1472589053 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472589355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472589420 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now I'll just add the actualy features I wanted < 1472589547 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472590456 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472590493 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -12.02, score 15.84, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472590503 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooops < 1472590521 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -12.07, score 16.16, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472590592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 3 200 terrier < 1472590592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 0 < 1472590602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope not working < 1472590607 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -11.86, score 16.31, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472590621 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472590717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 3 200 terrier < 1472590717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 4559.10340786059 < 1472590726 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1472590730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working < 1472590949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472591213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray, I turned my delta v perl script into a irssi bot thingy < 1472592069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 11.70 720 poodle < 1472592069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 3945.4217824427 < 1472592130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 16.12 720 poodle < 1472592130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 2351.07486307313 < 1472592997 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472593217 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472593366 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:79e1:f5d4:a0ce:5ddd QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472593500 0 :Nomn!~Nomn@105.107.115.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472593699 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472594152 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472594815 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:89d4:4fd8:ce9d:7f18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472595094 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472595107 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472595626 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472596591 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472596891 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472597657 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472598220 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472598484 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472598762 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472598893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilyha! < 1472598973 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now a bot! with two commands: ❄ping and ❄dvcalc. < 1472599203 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that ❄ would never be taken as a bot prefix < 1472599210 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄help < 1472599227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: oh, I should add that < 1472599234 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :.win 69 < 1472599278 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472599278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599283 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1472599319 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took some work to get it to do it when *I* say ❄ping though < 1472599320 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame I have to copy & paste "❄" < 1472599365 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: once you've done it once though, you can just push up < 1472599382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping see < 1472599382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc < 1472599459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does math for Δv of a vessel. Usage: dvcalc []; fuel types: lfo, olf, lf/nuk, xen, mono. If omitted, assumed to be lfo or the engine's type. < 1472599527 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping - so it works with arguments? < 1472599527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599580 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but ping doesn't actually look at them < 1472599594 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1472599618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472599619 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599620 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472599620 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599637 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :こんぼれんは！ < 1472599660 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :allôrcah! < 1472599671 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHellodshellot! < 1472599677 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDmdpsNdlc < 1472599677 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599779 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason none of the bot scripts I could find examples of were designed so that the bot can respond to itself < 1472599800 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they thought that was a bad idea for some reason < 1472599846 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for safety, so I can't put "❄dvcalc ❄ping" or something < 1472599865 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want recursion... < 1472599884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the otput of dvcalc is just a number < 1472599911 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I mean though < 1472599913 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of m/s your vessel has left before Jebediah is stranded in space < 1472599916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: You can write a "with" composition function too, can't you? < 1472600011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Ah, https://docs.python.org/2/library/contextlib.html < 1472600012 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your own outgoing messages are protocolistically quite different from others' incoming messages. < 1472600040 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why is it dvcalc and not Δvcalc? < 1472600057 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: yeah, so I'll make sure that if I add a thing that can output arbitrarystuff that there is some sort of preventer thingy < 1472600077 0 :Nomn!~Nomn@105.107.115.116 PART #esoteric : < 1472600095 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, so I had to essentially write two handlers that eventually call the actual bot thingy < 1472600096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: ..."Developers that need to support nesting of a variable number of context managers can either use the warnings module to suppress the DeprecationWarning raised by this function or else use this function as a model for an application specific implementation." < 1472600121 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472600145 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472600148 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: better not to have more than one character that needs to be copypasted < 1472600159 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you lack gusto < 1472600159 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472600416 0 :DHeadshot_!?@? NICK :DHeadshot < 1472600660 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472600662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question//The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master. < 1472600696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so? < 1472600709 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472600725 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. looks like it. < 1472600804 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472601293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472601612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472601641 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1472601749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( I wonder if the primes are going to turn out to have some obviously simple and reversible pattern to them, like that when you take the third root of the square of each prime, they average to e )
< 1472601829 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that averages to infinity hth < 1472601840 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fastyr mierjan. < 1472601847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472601854 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. < 1472601866 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grins. «mouah ah ah ah ah»
< 1472601881 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf language has words ending in -yt < 1472601884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-yr < 1472601978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm welsh? < 1472602075 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say "Finnish", for -yt. < 1472602096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, but that doesn't have vowel harmony. < 1472602120 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying not to cheat this time
< 1472602155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: welsh? < 1472602176 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we've got any -yr, anyway. < 1472602302 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starts losing patience.
< 1472602433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will check welsh, anyway
< 1472602484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, nope. < 1472602490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next try, gothic. < 1472602548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope. < 1472602576 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mie- makes me think maybe slavic, but -yr is _very_ against that. < 1472602589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it. < 1472602596 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welsh is extremely close. < 1472602599 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1472602608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cornish? < 1472602611 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close. < 1472602617 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :breton? < 1472602639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, on the insular side of. < 1472602654 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :manx? < 1472602689 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dyngr* < 1472602693 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1472602825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that went better than expected. < 1472602830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1472602838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might add a brontosaurus emoji < 1472603214 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1472603252 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: finally! < 1472603322 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472603433 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1472603681 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472604033 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:89d4:4fd8:ce9d:7f18 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472604425 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokkes hppavilion[1] in the brontosaurian bits
< 1472604431 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/kk/k/ < 1472604435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1472604443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How many cows do you have? < 1472604474 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I checked, about none. < 1472604549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why did anybody ever thing fascism was a good idea? < 1472604590 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I always assumed Fascism was just generally bad and that we all know it's bad, and that the word was invented by Jesus or something to say "this is a thing which is bad, and here's the word for it" < 1472604624 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently in WWI, there were actual fascists who saw it as a revolution where they were going to fix the world to put up their new fascist government < 1472604671 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1472604679 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the fascist manifesto? < 1472604693 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature" < 1472604695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Nope < 1472604701 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a pretty decent plan in the beginning < 1472604705 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the answer buzzwords? < 1472604711 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's buzzwords < 1472604725 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :universal suffrage from age 18, proportional representation, pacifism... < 1472604749 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uh...kind of got flushed once mussolini took over, but i've got no qualms with the original plan < 1472604795 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_Manifesto < 1472604896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, fascism now generally means "we want a one-party state with an absolute monarch to keep everything running, rather than having to deal with bureaucratic nonsense like "is this ethical?" or "will this start a nuclear war?"" < 1472604917 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is roughly what it developed into under Mussolini. < 1472604929 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. but we already had words for that system < 1472604963 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "dictatorship" < 1472605025 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think "communism" has come to mean basically that too, except the monarch is optional there < 1472605068 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"totalitarianism" is a good one < 1472605106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1472605122 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The system looks pretty good, actually < 1472605144 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472605168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though instead of seizing possessions of religious congregations, a better idea is "churches have to pay the same fucking taxes as everyone else" < 1472605242 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472605293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( What is the malware equivalent of an STD? ) < 1472605311 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that a trojan downloads < 1472605341 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(funny how in computing security a trojan does exactly the opposite of what they do in sex) < 1472605390 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh < 1472605391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1472605399 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472605407 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It took me a moment to remember that "Trojan" is a brand of condom) < 1472605553 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember somebody here talking about a concept of a non-geographical nation... < 1472605556 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it was a book on amazon < 1472605854 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472605859 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by zach weiner < 1472605865 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :polystate i think < 1472605889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you! < 1472605896 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it's zach weiner < 1472605897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1472605900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1472606523 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esonation < 1472607048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_a_white_horse_is_not_a_horse is fun < 1472607057 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a picture of a white horse captioned "Is it a horse?" < 1472607217 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceci n'est pas un cheval < 1472607420 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est pas un cheval, c'en est la représentation. un encodage de cheval, si on veut. < 1472607434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The vocabulary used in telling the same joke at a frat party and to your grandmother might well vary." -- Wikipedia < 1472607777 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472608048 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472608092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472608171 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: INTERNATIONAL CHICKEN < 1472610781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472612312 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7d38:aaa1:1cdc:a8ec JOIN :#esoteric < 1472612674 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7d38:aaa1:1cdc:a8ec QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472612860 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-74-71-203-183.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472612970 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472614301 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472614906 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1472615307 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is how Satanism is supposed to work; churches are supposed to have to pay taxes like anyone else does. < 1472615315 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1472615354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not pay taxes to the church instead? < 1472615462 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-74-71-203-183.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472615472 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, I think, the church is not the government. < 1472615488 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-74-71-203-183.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472615506 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But the government often waste a lot of the money paid by taxes anyways; I don't know how much better some church would do by taxes or not.) < 1472615540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472618893 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:bc26:3dbe:6ff1:6d5a JOIN :#esoteric < 1472619930 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I change the MIME type assocated with a file extension in Firefox? < 1472620023 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472620285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472620621 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind I think I found it < 1472620623 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472620662 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-126-39.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1472620670 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Firefox use RDF/XML anyways? There are better RDF formats than RDF/XML. < 1472621976 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:bc26:3dbe:6ff1:6d5a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472622318 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472623438 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472625161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472625716 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472626642 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472628091 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1472630329 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472630354 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472631089 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472633995 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got an audiobook of His Dark Materials 1 off TPB < 1472634111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pooch Barrister? < 1472634218 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people actually enjoy audiobooks? < 1472634222 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate them < 1472634235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audiobooks are good for long drives, I hear. < 1472635146 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/rB5on0E.png google is so nice < 1472635148 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike bing < 1472635151 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bing is a jerk < 1472635744 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhokxrhadezsqehz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472635907 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-szucetbmeesqlqvo JOIN :#esoteric < 1472636053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472636358 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-zzfighwtgfyfbslr QUIT :Quit: https://fnordserver.eu < 1472636928 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1726/ < 1472637462 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-vpnfxjgxudgspgzn JOIN :#esoteric < 1472637517 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge fish hat: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/teach-a-man-to-fish < 1472637560 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1472642658 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Quit: bye < 1472643354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472644642 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :papal tiaras have been made from many materials, including paper, but not fish < 1472644807 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472645166 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1472645349 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-74-71-203-183.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472645585 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-74-71-203-183.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472645726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472645901 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472646121 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (1050) < 1472646121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (1050): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1472646231 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I already listed that yesterday < 1472646272 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jellonas. aaaaurgh. < 1472646474 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1472646658 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: HATOFUL CHICKEN < 1472647401 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-74-71-203-183.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472648608 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-szucetbmeesqlqvo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472648665 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472648712 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nxnbxmsohvwkocrs JOIN :#esoteric < 1472649326 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472651999 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472653092 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472653329 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472653389 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472654472 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472655326 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472655347 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472657212 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472657508 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472658059 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472658779 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :iz < 1472658793 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: audiobooks are the best < 1472658878 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they really? compare them against strawberries < 1472658912 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :raspberries are the best < 1472658920 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but strawberries are good too < 1472658926 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :audiobooks are non GMO, guaranteed, every time < 1472659090 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://xkcd.com/641/ < 1472659320 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472659327 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472661397 0 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_hellonas < 1472661603 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472662240 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472662670 0 :ugjka!~ugjka@185.139.1.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472662800 0 :ugjka!~ugjka@185.139.1.15 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1472663792 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer blueberries < 1472663807 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because of their color < 1472663832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A blueberry milkshake is the most sci-fi looking drink ever < 1472664322 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472665323 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472666296 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloudberries are cool berries. < 1472666414 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh, brainfuck is one of the simplest esolangs right? < 1472666476 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :to implement? < 1472666478 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to learn? < 1472666485 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any way to make a brainfuck with no look-ahead? < 1472666488 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, both < 1472666500 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: look ahead? < 1472666524 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bf implementatin basically doesn't have a parser < 1472666540 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, a BF implementation that doesn't do [] < 1472666564 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds very non turing complete < 1472666574 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/bfim.htm < 1472666604 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it does is, [ stores its position on a stack < 1472666613 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ] loads that < 1472666628 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, [ stores its position on a stack, that's fine < 1472666637 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is ] needed? < 1472666640 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472666661 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ok right perhaps I should rephrase a bit < 1472666671 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make a language without closed loops? < 1472666748 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an imperative lanaugae kinda needs a way to iterate somehow < 1472666769 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use gotos? < 1472666816 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh idk how to explain what I mean... < 1472666832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you could have :x which is a label and @x that jumps to :x if the cell is not zero < 1472666842 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should start with a text-based programming language before doing this... < 1472667038 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the variant where [ does nothing is probably turing complete as well < 1472667039 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that looks like sed < 1472667050 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :but would be somewhat annoying to program in < 1472667077 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :not least because every , and . will be run at least once < 1472667080 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in most implmentations ] does nothing < 1472667131 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: in mine it pops the stack < 1472667139 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours is weird < 1472667150 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the data pointer doesn't point to a zero cell < 1472667164 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :] is required to go back to the matching [, at least < 1472667170 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other wise it just pops the stack and does nothing < 1472667181 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah < 1472667201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i mean lots of people just convert it to c and jit it so [ becomes while (*ptr) and ] becomes } which basically does nothing < 1472667373 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should make one that jit's it directly into machine code < 1472667386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then exec's the resulting file < 1472667484 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: your stack thing is far more interesting < 1472667503 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :your macros, however, are awful < 1472667581 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472667593 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: did you also notice that the space I use is "allocated" < 1472667602 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i meant that < 1472667617 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data=code=(char*)&c-1000; < 1472667622 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 bytes below the stack < 1472667624 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1472667652 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :vla exist so it's kind of moot though.. < 1472667712 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think vla's are implemented in a far safer manner < 1472667774 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and portable < 1472667877 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how would you resize a VLA? < 1472667901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only variable between calls to the function? < 1472667914 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which emans you lose your data < 1472668208 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :coroutines... < 1472668743 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6eu137bm7gg6t.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472669561 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, optimism... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5078239/how-to-remove-the-space-between-inline-block-elements search for "dear google searchers" < 1472669616 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472669673 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :css, not even once < 1472669772 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:199.15.233.15710]] with an expiry time of 1 year (anonymous users only, account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1472669961 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e170:b99:8d1f:a1c0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472670014 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472670066 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :css was firmly in the "almost good" category for a while... and then they added transitions. < 1472670302 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe every decade needs a blink tag moment < 1472670358 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and we got lucky in the noughties) < 1472670444 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I always liked < 1472670489 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nxnbxmsohvwkocrs QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472670699 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkylfnjoswuxxxja JOIN :#esoteric < 1472670947 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the css transition is not different to and , it merely generalises them < 1472671005 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49676&oldid=46123 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+527) 10/* New filter */ new section < 1472672480 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472672784 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472673193 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472673563 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e170:b99:8d1f:a1c0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472673609 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, at least unicode doesn't have a blink tag yet < 1472673641 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if "gr(a|e)y" rendered as "gray" for a sec, then "grey", then "gray", and repeat < 1472673674 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i18n was about adding as many alternations as possible to the webpages < 1472674099 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it so hard to make a programming language when you have a headache :/ < 1472674251 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: put your hand in some ice water for 1 full minute. your headache won't go away, but your hand will hurt so much, you won't care about your head < 1472674322 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1472674333 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I won't be able to feel the keyboard < 1472675804 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472676430 0 :ShibaInu!~Shibe@39.47.136.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472676432 0 :ShibaInu!~Shibe@39.47.136.219 PART #esoteric : < 1472677106 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472677510 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472677828 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472678141 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472680166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Nthern14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49677&oldid=37197 5* 03Nthern 5* (+172) 10/* /// and itflabtijtslwi */ < 1472681609 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472681631 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's something fun that would be almost never useful < 1472681639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Body Appraisal Firms < 1472681661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait, that sounded more like guys rating girls on a scale of 1-10 than I thought it meant) < 1472681690 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Appraising a person's body and brain for the purposes of downloading other peoples' minds into their brain < 1472681727 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, like, "this person has asthma; I think we'll need to bring the rent down by $40/month at least" < 1472682463 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i downloaded harry potter and the cursed child in pdf... < 1472682468 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can't read this :( < 1472682471 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a play < 1472682473 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a book < 1472682505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plays are TG < 1472682512 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :TG? < 1472682517 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good? < 1472682525 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1472682556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, read this play instead: http://www.bmds.bm/files/14/files/productions/arcadia/arcadia-by-tom-stoppard.pdf < 1472682615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? carnal embrace < 1472682616 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :carnal embrace? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472682917 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? css < 1472682918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :css? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472682938 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn CSS are confusing style sheets. < 1472682940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'cs': CSS are confusing style sheets. < 1472683003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you just going to stand there? < 1472683034 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who me? < 1472683041 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472683063 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv wisdom/cs wisdom/css < 1472683064 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `wisdom/cs wisdom/css' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1472683068 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/cs wisdom/css < 1472683070 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472683070 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? css < 1472683071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS are confusing style sheets. < 1472683092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS is plural. < 1472683115 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but their singular is also CSS < 1472683142 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472683148 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing < 1472683159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potion of confusing < 1472683159 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :potion of confusing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Please add that wisdom entry. < 1472683191 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spent several hours the last two days tweaking some CSS.
< 1472683191 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know what to write < 1472683200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Potion of Confusing? < 1472683222 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't recommend it (CSS). < 1472683245 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I didn't even enter browser compatibility territory. < 1472683256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: CSS has flex nowadays. < 1472683259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :flex is pretty good. < 1472683300 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6eu137bm7gg6t.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472683347 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1472683357 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I learned about that too late in the process < 1472683393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a bit of CSS for http://slbkbs.org:1619/game/test < 1472683411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a mess until I figured out flex. < 1472683702 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? csss < 1472683702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS are confusing style sheets. < 1472683761 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cs < 1472683762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1472683812 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` cssss < 1472683812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1472683817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` c < 1472683817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1472683824 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?c < 1472683824 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?c: not found < 1472683826 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1472683827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1472683830 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn cs testing < 1472683832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'c': cs testing < 1472683834 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1472683840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1472683843 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1472683844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1472683865 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? s < 1472683865 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683868 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ss < 1472683868 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683870 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sss < 1472683871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683890 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ss esses are confusing < 1472683892 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 's': ss esses are confusing < 1472683901 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? s < 1472683902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss esses are confusing < 1472683910 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ss < 1472683911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss esses are confusing < 1472683913 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sss < 1472683913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683950 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ' ' < 1472683951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​' '? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ? ' ' < 1472683958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472683989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're spamming tdnh < 1472684005 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spam < 1472684006 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1472684011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole page is full of nothing but bot spam < 1472684063 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam spam spam spam lovely spam wonderful spam! lovely spam, wonderful spam < 1472684085 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` slwed s//ss e(.*)/E\1./ < 1472684086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `slwed s//ss e(.*)/E\1./' < 1472684092 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` slwd s//ss e(.*)/E\1./ < 1472684093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `slwd s//ss e(.*)/E\1./' < 1472684111 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1472684112 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472684114 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd s//ss e(.*)/E\1./ < 1472684114 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 14: unterminated `s' command < 1472684130 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd s//s/ss e(.*)/E\1./ < 1472684130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 16: invalid reference \1 on `s' command's RHS < 1472684138 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd s//s/ss e\(.*\)/E\1./ < 1472684140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/s//Esses are confusing. < 1472684156 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could have gone better. < 1472684173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? s < 1472684174 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esses are confusing. < 1472684176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ss < 1472684177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esses are confusing. < 1472684178 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sss < 1472684179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sss? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472684219 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries sleep instead.
< 1472684462 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes int-e in the sleepy bits
< 1472684469 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\! < 1472684678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-71.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472685224 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ☺ < 1472685225 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+263A WHITE SMILING FACE] < 1472685505 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472685791 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472686062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⚠️ < 1472686063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+26A0 WARNING SIGN] [U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16] < 1472686078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`od -c ⚠️ < 1472686079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :od: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `od --help' for more information. < 1472686096 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` od -c <<<"⚠️" < 1472686097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 342 232 240 357 270 217 \n \ 0000007 < 1472686157 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dc 16i8oFEOFp < 1472686157 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc: Could not open file 16i8oFEOFp < 1472686168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dc -e 16i8oFEOFp < 1472686168 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 < 1472686175 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dc -e 16i8oFE0Fp < 1472686175 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :177017 < 1472686246 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472687176 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472687473 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric