< 1473984651 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1473984832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bibimbap is pretty tasty. < 1473984867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google bim bam bom hebrew < 1473984868 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lLGmRj3_MA < 1473985137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1473985405 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1473985576 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473985618 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( What's the opposite of red tape? < 1473985630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( +) ) < 1473986157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "Europe and Asia or Eurasia" debate should be settled by saying Eurasia is a continent, but having a separate term describing a cultural mass < 1473986188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Europe is separate from Asia in this system, and so are the Middle East and India) < 1473986232 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asia is a continent, and Europe is a peninsula. < 1473986260 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then where's the UK? < 1473986276 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kingdom. < 1473986299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, no it isn't, the called "Europe" is clearly more than a peninsula < 1473986373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a bizarre model that is still taught in some places (most notably France, Italy, and Spain) that claims there are 6 continents) < 1473986392 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are: Europe, Asia, Australia, Antarctica, Africa, and America) < 1473986407 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you have read wikipedia's article on Continent, right? < 1473986416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm in it right now < 1473986422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures. < 1473986434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? < 1473986501 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say _i_ had read it hth < 1473986519 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1473986565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders if he should think before speaking < 1473986586 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh that is boring. otth... < 1473986596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otuh < 1473986680 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otooh... < 1473986703 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: if we have a separate term describing cultural mass, where does that put russia and some of its neighbors? < 1473986740 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could compromise and say europe is a pencontinent < 1473986745 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Either in Europe (a name which will be adopted as distinct from Eurasia) or split between Europe and Asia, depending on how Russia works < 1473986772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually understand russia < 1473986801 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Let social purpose hang itself unhindered! No- I mean, literature can replace, can actually become… Russia!” < 1473986806 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the quote I was looking for. < 1473986810 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i'm thinking that russia might need to be a third one < 1473986814 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't find the one I was looking for on that page. < 1473986821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps < 1473986827 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're certainly acting like they're trying to be < 1473986833 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(third? Won't there be, like, 10?) < 1473986841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asia is the parts of the former Asia that aren't India or Stanic < 1473986857 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i mean beyond asia and europe. although of course asia needs further breakup. < 1473986861 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473986887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Africa is divided around the middle (apparently) and Brazil is separate from the rest of South America < 1473986892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stanic ... does that include _all_ the muslim countries in the middle? < 1473986900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, just the middle east < 1473986907 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't counting Russia as part of Asia? < 1473986909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or anywhere like it < 1473986916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oerjan recommends I don't < 1473986923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking to oerjan. < 1473986927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the middle east isn't the part that has countries named -stan < 1473986934 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Hn1rPQouU 100% accurate < 1473986974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm speaking about hppavilion[1]'s cultural division idea. russia is certainly not asian, and probably not european by that measure. < 1473986980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We must be careful though; Scandinavia is still in Europe, but further divisions will separate it (except finland)) < 1473986983 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, huh < 1473987018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's not the quote I was looking for. <-- i believe you. < 1473987024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Middle East is its own area (and probably includes Egypt, honestly) separate from the main Asia (which also excludes India) < 1473987058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make such a good racist... < 1473987071 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I'm not. :( < 1473987250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A radical Muslim would be referred to as an "orthodox muslim"; when talking about countries allowing certain Muslimy traditions (to any extent; Sharia Law is implied as the endpoint, but just letting them leave their classes to pray 2-3 times a day (depending on when the rules say they must and the school schedule) will be referred to as "[country name]-stan"- e.g. Americastan, Francestan, Germanystan, United Kingdom of Great Britain < 1473987250 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Northern Irelandstan) < 1473988084 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Never mind that permitting such prayers would probably fall more under 1st amendment rights than anything else (... in the US) < 1473988090 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, y'know. Racism. < 1473988629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Is it possible to make a Cesar Cipher with a non-integer key? ) < 1473988661 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5 = 5/2. You alternate between a shift of 2 and a shift of 3, I guess. < 1473988840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, atbash('holy') = 'slob' < 1473988871 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, atbash('wizard') = 'draziw' < 1473988880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the best thing ever < 1473988921 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1473989141 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps the process should be refined to account for /number/ of links <-- iirc that's been done for erdős < 1473989161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1473989163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 1/n. but only for the first step. < 1473989252 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It should account for how many papers have been written by him- sure, erdős is dead /now/ (for now), but if you apply the erdős distancing function ő(a, b), a and b might both still be alive < 1473989507 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, my dwarfs can now cut down trees, collect resulting wood and make barrels in workshops < 1473989728 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can they love < 1473989743 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i forgot what skill is connected with actually build workshops in df < 1473989747 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1473990152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: No, myname isn't running the nightlies < 1473990177 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1473990217 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such thing as cryptographic steganography? Where you encrypt two messages into one, in such a way that message A can be broken in a way that looks real, but message B (which is slightly harder to break) is a separate message discretely encoded into message A? < 1473990232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could do it with case or something... < 1473990309 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only if it isn't on a computer; if the person who breaks it would have to be doing it by hand < 1473990378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encrypt your main message using Caesar #2, capitalize and decapitalize the letters in output to encode your secreter message in quintets (caps = 1, uncaps = 0) < 1473990416 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better, switch between typographic variants while doing this. single-story a = 0, double-story = 1 < 1473990485 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: my only real take at steganography is http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=877696 < 1473990495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1473990564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oooh, or obsolete-cypher cypher; Vingere a long mess of garbage using the message, and the other person breaks it the usual way, discards the message and just reads the key) < 1473990986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` sed '1itest' /dev/null < 1473990988 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473990998 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1473991001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1473991004 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you expect? < 1473991015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: who are you talking to < 1473991018 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1473991055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: i was looking at wob_jonas's experiments in the log, and wondering if sed provides at _all_ any way of adding something to an empty file < 1473991097 0 :teuchter!choochter@nat/ibm/x-clvmxriliczfkhpi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1473991116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that you cannot apply any command if there isn't an already existing line for it to act on < 1473991128 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1473991162 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rather stupid if you wanted to, say, unconditionally add a prefix < 1473991236 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it does, yes. try the i command for that. < 1473991246 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not... wait < 1473991258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me read the manual < 1473991329 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjna: dunno, maybe it doesn't < 1473991501 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 'itest' << < 1473994185 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you photograph a pooch while you're away < 1473994188 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1473994197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, for at least two reasons. < 1473994225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the reasons < 1473994229 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, three < 1473994277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elaborate < 1473994285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) i don't have a camera (2) there aren't any pooches around at this time (3) it would be too dark... oh wait, flash. i don't have a flash either. < 1473994303 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pooches? < 1473994304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1473994317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :point (3) applies even for the inconvenient option of bringing my laptop outside < 1473994319 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go outside and knock on some doors until you find someone with a pooch < 1473994355 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :many phones have built-in cameras nowadays < 1473994358 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have one of those < 1473994369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so. i worked too hard on making my next door neighbors care enough to keep theirs silent hth < 1473994374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1473994445 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this? why do you need to photograph a pooch? < 1473994455 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask shachaf < 1473994462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i'm getting food < 1473994487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what food are you getting < 1473994765 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1473994775 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1473994822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'vacc-' is latin for 'cow' < 1473994830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"consider a spherical cow in a vacuum" < 1473994864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, 'vac-' is Latin for "empty", but that's probably unrelated) < 1473994885 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :svacc < 1473995406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bread < 1473995439 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you saying his argument is weak (svak in norwegian) < 1473995448 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying it's scow < 1473995464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1473995465 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sku < 1473995470 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1473995471 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp. < 1473995767 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1473995768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1473995778 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Elronnd < 1473995779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd desperately wants this entry to say something. < 1473995788 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits Elronnd < 1473995791 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1473995793 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1473995796 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits elronnd < 1473995798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan Elronnd oerjan Elronnd Elronnd < 1473995807 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg elronnd < 1473995809 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-01-11 learn Elronnd desperately wants this entry to say something. \ 2016-01-08 learn Elronnd ... \ 2015-12-20 ` rm wisdom/{elronnd,b_jonas} \ 2015-12-19 learn Elronnd *definitely* esoteric \ 2015-12-19 learn Elronnd *Definitely* esoteric < 1473995820 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainwords Elronnd < 1473995822 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Elronnd < 1473995831 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rainwords HackEgo you done a good job < 1473995832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06HackEgo 13you 04done 07a 08good 09job < 1473996377 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : in pokemon games, potion restores 20 hp and fresh water restores 50 <-- obviously their medicine is based on homeopathy hth < 1473996397 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :still mad at you < 1473996413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION offers icecream < 1473996418 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1473996424 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1473996427 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please, what kind of ice cream are you offering < 1473996429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get it < 1473996443 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: step 1: be mad at oerjan < 1473996450 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is too good < 1473996458 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1473996463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dark chocolate < 1473996471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1473996477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like chocolate ice cream < 1473996483 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't really like dark chocolate < 1473996483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1473996494 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1473996495 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My token non-binary lesbian friend is currently playing Pokemon and was asking me what e should do. I know nothing at all about pokemon. < 1473996497 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really are evil < 1473996498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1473996499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious helpful œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1473996502 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf a pistacchio one < 1473996511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please, where can i get it < 1473996526 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-c < 1473996554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#helpful œ#4evil o# < 1473996557 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil overlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1473996583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny < 1473996768 0 :JX7P!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1473996841 0 :IRIXUser!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1473996865 0 :IRIXUser!?@? NICK :Guest13447 < 1473997962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1473998121 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know if diplom-is delivers to california, alas < 1473998171 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you find out? < 1473998234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course you haven't noticed my evil scheme yet...) < 1473998299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which scheme? < 1473998341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that the pistachio is covered in dark chocolate hth https://www.diplom-is.no/produkter/royal-pistasj1 < 1473998398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1473998405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's fine. < 1473998412 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not chocolate ice cream. < 1473998422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1473998426 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I probably don't mind dark chocolate in that form. < 1473998434 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should send me some so I can find out. < 1473998454 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i can do that < 1473998464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1473998622 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) it needs to be kept frozen (2) mental issues < 1473998691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1473998702 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which issues? < 1473998706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kind that it's rude to ask about? < 1473998742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1473998893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistachio_ice_cream lists some american companies < 1473999222 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474000162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I'm interested in Norwegian ice cream. < 1474000200 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And none of those seem to have dark chocolate, anyway. < 1474000251 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian ice cream is quite good < 1474000265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1474000269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. < 1474000324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprø som pistasj iskrem < 1474000343 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a good company near where I used to live < 1474000350 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good, although drop the last space < 1474000411 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tolive" is invalid english hth < 1474000429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf-----### < 1474000567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. < 1474000573 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sprø" means crunchy < 1474000577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also crazy < 1474000584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a pun, because celery is crunchy < 1474000587 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why do you hate bell peppers < 1474000595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: so many reasos < 1474000598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1474000611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pistasjiskrem isn't very crunchy at all < 1474000665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pistachios, on the other hand... < 1474000704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the one you're pining for includes some nut pieces < 1474000714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1474000718 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also the chocolate < 1474000728 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what you're saying is, not very sprø at all? < 1474000737 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mildly sprø? < 1474000754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was my assessment of the pun correct? < 1474000762 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :is sprø the opposite of scow? < 1474000809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not. prø isn't the opposite of cow. < 1474000824 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe there's a triangle < 1474000833 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :prø-cow-??? < 1474000844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnition < 1474000849 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly gnition. < 1474000876 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly I am not as educated in these arts as you < 1474000904 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you've assessed well. < 1474000957 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does everyone know all these languages? < 1474000958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw i didn't invent that pun, norwegians actually use it. < 1474000962 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION only knows 2.6 languages < 1474000963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. < 1474000966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cow is the dual of a w, obviously. < 1474000991 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many vegetabel colloquialisms that are difficult to translate. < 1474001003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Hebrew people say "nonsense in tomato juice" < 1474001010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which actually isn't a good example because it's not a pun. < 1474001030 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rhymes nicely, though < 1474001035 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474001043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a scow is the dual of a wino. < 1474001047 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximate translitteration: shtuyot be mits < 1474001052 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :agvanyot < 1474001078 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are other vegetable colloquialisms? < 1474001086 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are more but it's hard to think of them. < 1474001111 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato < 1474001117 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also in hebrew) < 1474001126 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474001152 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never heard that one? < 1474001168 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've been informed that "shachaf sprø som selleri" is iggrammatical. < 1474001173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing an "er". < 1474001253 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474001294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was adapted from a previous version that was also iggrammatical hth < 1474001326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the previous version? < 1474001343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shachaf mad" hth < 1474001357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1474001421 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's iggrammatical < 1474001435 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the opposite of grammatical hth < 1474001458 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ungrammatical < 1474001484 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at Elronnd like he's sprø som selleri < 1474001487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :iggrammatical is iggrammatical < 1474001490 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pointing that out is not very insightful < 1474001504 0 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/insightful/iggrammatical/g < 1474001506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people do it reflexively < 1474001509 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it, really? isn't it more immorphological. < 1474002287 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474002462 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474002809 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.34.140 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474004090 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474004338 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474006228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clippy in freefall is going to need to sort out some things... < 1474006681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in girl genius, grandma is one confident lady. < 1474006780 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, Clippy is quite confused at present. < 1474007638 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474007677 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474008402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474008533 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1474009516 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474010112 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474010736 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474011164 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474011634 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474011951 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474012340 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.204.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474012617 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474012778 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-H1LddWxo8 < 1474013148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, there used to be an idiom "The only people who stay dead in comics are Bucky, Jason Todd, and Uncle Ben." < 1474013157 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bucky and Jason Todd were both brought back in 2005 < 1474013270 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did... they bring back the Waynes? < 1474013432 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Probably at some point < 1474013437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do they even really count as characters? < 1474013445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're more of a backstory plot device < 1474013451 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, they are just plot devices. < 1474013483 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Think, what do you know about Batman's parents? They died... usually after seeing Zorro... and that's it) < 1474013517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Usually it was an assassination set up to look like a mugging gone awry?) < 1474013591 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is my proposed API of SQLite to use with a JavaScript code http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/sqlite_js and I hope this would be better than the existing packages for SQLite on JavaScript. But, I wouldn't know how because I don't know C++ programming < 1474013626 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't SQLite pure C? < 1474013658 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1474013673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, Node.js extension are written with C++ < 1474013688 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble. < 1474013728 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The asynchronous stuff I wrote might be wrong though and might need to be changed if the way I currently wrote it won't work very well. < 1474017100 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@113.53.204.23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1474017437 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7zxr9wnz2txww.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474019154 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1474019166 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474020061 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1474020864 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474020966 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1474025449 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Talideon 5* 10New user account < 1474025714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49725&oldid=49721 5* 03Talideon 5* (+191) 10/* Introductions */ < 1474025897 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Talideon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49726 5* 03Talideon 5* (+313) 10Created page with "Hello! My name's Keith Gaughan. I mirror some esolang-related content: * [https://mirrors.talideon.com/articles/qbal/ Q-BAL] - I really ought to write an implementation of t..." < 1474025909 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49727&oldid=46482 5* 03Talideon 5* (+133) 10/* External resources */ Add a specification mirror link. < 1474026820 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474027025 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Think, what do you know about Batman's parents? They died... usually after seeing Zorro... and that's it)" => oh, like Doctor Sarton < 1474030886 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474031327 0 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyegzmigyvtvquvy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474031341 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474031752 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474032298 0 :Guest13447!~IRIX@2001:41d0:8:791d::1 QUIT :Changing host < 1474032298 0 :Guest13447!~IRIX@freebsd/user/kastengraeber JOIN :#esoteric < 1474032301 0 :Guest13447!?@? NICK :JX7P < 1474033114 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474033201 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474033230 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474033232 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'import site' failed | 2 | < 1474033765 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474034182 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474034199 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474036282 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474036783 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474037643 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnnouqslchlafkss JOIN :#esoteric < 1474039666 0 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474040177 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474040193 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474040303 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474040797 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474040852 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041140 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041342 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474041357 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041442 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474041553 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474041794 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042133 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042149 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042290 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042306 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042312 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: when is your bot going to do anything? < 1474042335 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042394 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042402 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042420 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042429 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042434 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the bot is going relatively slowly atm < 1474042448 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if it's quitjoinspamming and there isn't a human attending it, it should probably be tested in a channel of its own < 1474042456 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042457 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474042476 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how long has it been doing that? < 1474042510 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474042545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only since half an hour ago by my scrollup < 1474042558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1474042568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's give it a while to do something more interesting before it gets banned < 1474042602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the frequency is about one every 4 minutes anyway < 1474042617 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's comparable to pingout timing < 1474042617 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average < 1474042623 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't know how to handle the ping from the server < 1474042634 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sends a quit rather than a pong < 1474042635 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly. < 1474042658 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bot is irssi based, so it doesn't have to handle any of that stuff < 1474042674 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, im fixing a few bugs. < 1474042679 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :code changed < 1474042687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so you're rebooting it < 1474042691 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1474042702 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea. its design is not exactly reload friendly < 1474042711 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :may try childprocesses later < 1474042750 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, if there's a human behind it < 1474042757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joinspam is less of a problem < 1474042792 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc while True: print 1+1 # _Should_ no longer let processes run rampant < 1474042793 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be easier to test it in a channel of your own, though, both because you don't spam the channel as much and because other people don't say things and interrupt your tests < 1474042794 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'import site' failed | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | < 1474042794 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 < 1474042798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi can reload a script without unjoining < 1474042814 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwdgnkxvqpgentmb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474042819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the tchincal word im looking for it < 1474042823 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True ais523 < 1474042841 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to implent childprocess based commands for the next update. :P < 1474042865 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1474043188 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043203 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043208 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043237 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043298 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043313 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043341 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043347 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474043357 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043411 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043428 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043437 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474043833 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474043867 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474043885 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474044339 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474044510 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should invent a dish involving servings of waffles and call it "wunderwaffle" < 1474044639 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that use English pronunciation, German pronunciation, or change halfway through the word? < 1474044656 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a whole waffle house: luftwaffle, panzerwaffle, wunderwaffle, atomwaffle, waffle-ss < 1474044697 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "luftwaffle" < 1474044698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not sure. I could only get away with it in japan or korea anyway, where noone knows how to pronounce any of that anyway < 1474044739 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in germany I would probably go to jail on opening night < 1474044793 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\, luftwaffe is still the name of the German Air Force < 1474044842 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wouldn't get away with a dish called waffle ss < 1474044909 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true < 1474044921 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or probably even "wunderwaffle" would be frowned upon < 1474045048 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045574 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045591 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045654 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045670 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045672 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045686 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045795 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045809 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045815 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045831 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045892 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474045920 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474045987 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474046002 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046036 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474046051 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046131 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474046145 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046150 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok should be done for now < 1474046159 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print 1+1 < 1474046159 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 | < 1474046169 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474046562 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474046730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :horray < 1474046749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~>pyc print "hello " + "wrold \n" < 1474046750 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello wrold | | < 1474047070 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iwcejbwahsvyuikb QUIT :Excess Flood < 1474047338 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vxsgkmdvkdommozn JOIN :#esoteric < 1474047713 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474047994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, http://faculty.evansville.edu/ck6/encyclopedia/ETC.html Encyclopedia of Triangle Centers has really grown. It has over 10000 points now.\ < 1474048032 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474048659 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474048695 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474049093 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49728&oldid=46494 5* 03Primo 5* (+35) 10/* 48 */ < 1474049131 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474049766 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474049839 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is special about 45306? < 1474050131 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474050145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49729&oldid=49728 5* 03Primo 5* (+35) 10/* 208 */ < 1474050280 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49730&oldid=49729 5* 03Primo 5* (+0) 10/* 48 */ < 1474050299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49731&oldid=49730 5* 03Primo 5* (+0) 10/* 208 */ < 1474051202 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a0d3:7df0:64aa:3a61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474053337 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474053454 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1474053753 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474053844 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474053997 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474054128 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wnnouqslchlafkss QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474054246 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474054377 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474054654 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49732&oldid=49731 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-70) 10Sorry, not interesting (not shorter or fewer cells) and they use three cells anyway. See talk. < 1474054960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49733&oldid=38128 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+1536) 10/* Note on crunchfuck and more values. */ new section < 1474055391 0 :AndChat112404!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474055417 0 :AndChat112404!?@? NICK :Siniestro < 1474055421 0 :Siniestro!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola < 1474056117 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474056437 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1474056544 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hcryqvwhzchwyzzd JOIN :#esoteric < 1474057337 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474057619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474057819 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why is ONLY the third verse of Deutschlandlied sung in Germany? Like, the first verse is kind of objectionable, but the second is fine, though not really a good first verse. Why not 3 then 2?) < 1474057868 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, I guess 2 could be considered sexist? "Our women are the best women" is I guess offensive to certain horseshoes?) < 1474057968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is the current government of Germany considered different from the one the Third Reich was part of, or the same government but reformed?) < 1474058246 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474058599 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474058795 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474058904 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it's considered different < 1474058919 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, well, dunno, maybe they wanted it short < 1474059383 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Every country should standardize their emergency codes. I just learned it's 112 in Deutschland rather than 'Mürika's standard 911. I vote we all agree worldwide to use 900, 999, 666, or 100. 999 and 666 are best because they're easily memorable and can be typed quickly; I like 666, but other people won't and 999 is easier because it's the lower-right) < 1474059424 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :999 was rejected by GSM body due to being easy to accidentally dial < 1474059427 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Current numbers in each country would be a standard redirect to the new one) < 1474059430 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Oh right... < 1474059453 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be why they went with 911... < 1474059462 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 112 < 1474059486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: 112 is easier < 1474059487 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: it's more or less standardized, in that the recommended number is 112 everywhere in Europe and 911 everywhere in North America < 1474059492 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474059495 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: 112 works everywhere in Europe < 1474059511 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah. I vote 'murica adopts it as an alternate. < 1474059517 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the US uses 911 because numbers of the form x11 were used as special cases in the original US numbering system < 1474059538 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, 112 is definitely easier to dial, at least on European phones where you can dial 112 without unlocking the key lock, because the three buttons are next to each other < 1474059544 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I've seen 999 dialed by accident myself (it was a small child who happened to like the number 9) < 1474059551 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using nonrepeating digits makes that somewhat harder < 1474059554 0 :Siniestro!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1474059568 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, on a rotary phone, you have to rotate the dial the entire distance to dial a 9, 112 is much faster on one of those < 1474059572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but nobody uses them nowadays) < 1474059597 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: I think 911 probably sometimes works in Europe too (from mobile phones), for compatibility < 1474059606 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to tell because you can't find out which ones work without actually calling it < 1474059619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get a job as an emergency communications tester < 1474059636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people who go around dialing 911 from every phone in the US as it's set up to make sure it's connected to the emergency system correctly < 1474059644 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's the same in the US; in fact, you can dial any number without connecting on iPhone (I think; maybe it's only emergency calls or only one before logging in) < 1474059656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, you need to let the dispatchers know that that's what you're doing < 1474059673 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: that's two different things < 1474059726 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: one is that you can dial emergency calls from any phone without a sim card, or with an invalid (expired) sim card, or with a valid sim card but without knowing the Pin, and in all of those cases you can't do any other calls (not even free calls) < 1474059818 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I'm talking about is that on phones that aren't fold-out or slide-out, but have a key lock activated by a short combination of keys (or rarely, by a physical switch on the side) to avoid accidental keyopresses and butt-dialling, if the keys are locked you can still press 1 1 2 green to dial emergency. < 1474059834 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 works everywhere the GSM standard holds sway, even outside Europe. < 1474059844 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it very easy to call emergency services blindly, without looking at the phone, because those three buttons (1 and 2 and green) are next to each other < 1474059855 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK uses 999 it looks like < 1474059868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use 112 but 999 still works for backwards compatibility < 1474059868 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even in places where the "traditional" number is something else.) < 1474059884 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent that hardly anyone actually knows or uses the new number < 1474059961 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, lots of countries still have older emergency service numbers that still work. in Hungary, they're 104 for ambulance, 105 for firefighters, 107 for police (these were introduced within my lifetime, the previous ones were 04, 05, 07), < 1474059966 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland had 000 as the nationwide emergency number when it was established. < 1474059972 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Austria has 122, 133, 144. < 1474059985 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might still work for all I know, but the official number was changed to 112 in 1993. < 1474059994 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 is quite well advertized here so I think most people know about it, which is a good thing < 1474060005 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: in the UK the way it works is that when you call 112, you get linked to a dispatcher who basically just asks you which emergency services you need < 1474060011 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474060015 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then transfers you to the individual emergency-handling department < 1474060022 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, some phones also have an interface that lets you call emergency services without knowing the number, although the number is easier < 1474060024 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are six, but most people only know three of them < 1474060043 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fire, police, ambulance; cave rescue, mountain rescue, coastguard) < 1474060056 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, there are more than those three here too. I don't know how they work. < 1474060101 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how many of them are and which ones they are and how the central number works (I think at some point it was connected to the police emergency line, and they'd transfer you, but that might have changed since), because luckily I've had no need to call them yet. < 1474060113 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has some rather dubious lists of more detailed emergency numbers, which I couldn't really find citations for and find a bit suspicious. < 1474060117 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do have separate less-than-an-emergency lines, though < 1474060121 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least had, maybe they've cleaned up. < 1474060131 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :101 will contact the police for something low priority < 1474060131 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, cave rescue? wow < 1474060159 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 111 is a triage line for when you think you have a medical emergency, but aren't sure because you aren't a doctor, and need a qualified doctor to let you know whether it's a medical emergency or not < 1474060179 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this situation comes up regularly enough to need its own number, and I've had to use it in the past) < 1474060183 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emergency_telephone_numbers < 1474060228 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the older days, phonebooks used to have a page or two at the beginning listing dozens of useful not-quite-emergency numbers (and also the emergency numbers), but for some reason they removed those in later editions (even when phonebooks still existed) and now I don't know of an up to date list, not even online. < 1474060230 0 :Caesura!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1474060244 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 101 has done wonders for crime reporting, because before it was introduced < 1474060259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody could remember how to report a crime that didn't lead to any immediate danger for anyone < 1474060264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they probably went mostly unreported < 1474060287 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of those numbers were not short abbreviated numbers, but normal format ones, but these days there are a lot more abbreviated numbers out there (I think there are some with six digits, seriously, although most are four digits long) < 1474060300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :People often say they're a "Black belt" in e.g. Python-Fu. Clearly they aren't real programmers, as programming ranks are hex (and #000000 is the lowest rank) < 1474060312 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a list, especially because they keep changing the short numbers very quickly a lot of times. < 1474060360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The base rank (can't do anything at all) is #000000, every time you level up you add 1 to the smallest pair, with the tiebreaker being Red before Blue before Green < 1474060372 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for reporting crimes in non-emergency, we do have a number called "Tanú vonal", but I don't know its number < 1474060419 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: wait, #000000 is can't do anything at all? how about those people that do more harm to the code than help? < 1474060482 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have colors like the overblack that the NES has < 1474060490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you aren't supposed to use it because TVs get confused by it) < 1474060517 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you specify colors to analog TVs via using a range of voltages < 1474060525 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overblack has a voltage beyond the black end of the range < 1474060528 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… ultrablack? infrablack? < 1474060599 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after looking it up) Apparently it's called "telefontanú" instead, is free to call, and has the number +3680555111 < 1474060627 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474060629 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes that up in his phone < 1474060672 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: is +3680 significant/memorable in any way? I assume at least some of the leading digits refer to Hungary < 1474060702 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: +36 is Hungary, +3680 followed by 6 digits are free to call numbers < 1474060735 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1474060757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only bit that isn't structural is a fairly memorable 555111 < 1474060783 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+3690 or +3681 followed by 6 digits are premium rate numbers, their rate per call or rate per minute can be determined from the next three digits using a step function you have to look up in documentation. < 1474060835 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474060851 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 80 bit is somewhat standard, I think 80 or 800 are used as the are code for free to call numbers in some other countries too < 1474060897 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :800 is the area code used in the North American Dialing Plan. < 1474060905 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, Numbering Plan. < 1474060910 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, UK prefix for a free to call number is 0800 < 1474060921 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "1-900" for premium-rate services, I believe. (In the USA, I mean.) < 1474060923 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the leading 0 is structural < 1474060926 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. < 1474060943 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where the '1' was the characteristically humble country code.) < 1474060944 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's basically the equivalent of a leading / in a path) < 1474060951 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that's not US-specific... < 1474060960 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these free to call numbers are sometimes called "zöld szám" in Hungary by the way < 1474060977 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the abbreviated numbers (which these days all start with 1, but some used to start with 0 or 9) are also free to call < 1474060977 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't guess what Hungarian means by looking at it :-P < 1474060986 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NPNA is used by like a couple dozen countries. < 1474060996 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't guess what Hungarian means even if Finnish is technically related. < 1474060999 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I wish for is there to be a consistent way to call Hungarian abbreviated numbers from abroad, but I don't think there is one < 1474061020 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the abbreviated numbers have long equivalents, but not in a systematic relation < 1474061024 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(US, Canada, and the Carribean) < 1474061087 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I saw an experiment on that where they gave some Hungarians in the room some Finnish to try to decode < 1474061099 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of them could figure it out, but they started to see the connections when they were explained < 1474061124 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so from this small amount of anecdotal evidence I conclude that the languages are related, but only tenuously < 1474061137 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, the two languages are too far to be even partly intelligable. < 1474061146 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@node-dfz.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474061150 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the relationship is more in the grammar system < 1474061162 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading Middle English can be fun < 1474061170 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish and Estonian work better that way. < 1474061175 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty alien, especially in the spelling, but you can often figure out what it means < 1474061198 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are both Uralic languages, and even Finno-Ugric, but that doesn't help too much. < 1474061205 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to figuring out Swedish from German, which is much easier < 1474061230 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :English and German are both Germanic languages, and even not *that* far apart, but going from English to German can be pretty mystifying without study. < 1474061254 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is only partly Germanic < 1474061264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has large Romance influence too < 1474061284 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is part of the reason the vocabulary is so large, it's basically glued two different language families together < 1474061285 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is 100% Germanic, at least from a language family sense. < 1474061294 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has, yes, huge Romance influence. < 1474061294 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the grammar/structural components are mostly Germanic though) < 1474061312 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also got huge influence from a *different branch* of the Germanic family. < 1474061333 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's West Germanic, but with vocabulary and grammatical changes adopted from North Germanic. < 1474061333 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, obviously how easy it is to understand a language from another depends a lot on the topic discussed and even the writing style, because those can influence how much of the vocabulary is related < 1474061335 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :100% Germanic, not from concentrate. < 1474061359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you talk about modern topics like computers, there are more likely to be words that were loaned recently from English or Latin or Greek < 1474061389 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that were just outright invented < 1474061427 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, invented and then borrowed from English < 1474061465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I was just checking Wiktionary to see if the urban legend about the word "quiz" having been invented for a bet is true < 1474061490 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're reading French about technical topics, then it can depend a lot on the writer how many English-derived words they use < 1474061490 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's no evidence behind that theory but there isn't evidence behind any of the other theories either < 1474061494 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's mostly true < 1474061496 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it's possibly true but probably not < 1474061503 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1474061547 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says that the timeline is wrong (the bet is commonly alleged to have happened in 1791, but the word was used in 1781) < 1474061683 0 :Siniestro!~AndChat11@181.95.160.48 QUIT :Quit: Olfateamos muchas cosas entre prisas diariamente son verdades deliciosas y verdades pestilentes. < 1474061794 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another useful non-emergency phone number is +3640374636 (branded as +3640DRINFO) which you can call for non-emergency medical problems to find out which clinic you should go to for urgent or non-urgent problems of any kind, based on the type of problem, time, and where you live. < 1474061883 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a0d3:7df0:64aa:3a61 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1474063445 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you call +36403762746 to find out which pills to eat? < 1474063481 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a good time call +1-202-762-1069 < 1474063582 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they can tell you the information in the public description of all medicine products and on interactions (you can also find these on their webpage at http://dr.info.hu/drinfo/pid/0/medicine ), but they probably won't give you a diagnosis and will sometimes tell you to ask a doctor or pharmacist instead < 1474063648 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how much medical information they will give you < 1474063649 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently nobody sees pharmacists nowadays < 1474063661 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I went to a pharmacist for a question which was definitely in their domain < 1474063670 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they answered it, but seemed surprised and happy that I hadn't just gone to a doctor < 1474063678 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :their homepage does have some medical information < 1474063698 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That's why I suggested +3640DRMARIO instead. < 1474063722 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, very few people will just ask a pharmacist about things like drug interactions. < 1474063729 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is literally their job and domain of expertise. < 1474063745 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's my experience too, people (including me) rarely ask questions from pharmacists < 1474063754 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my case, I was asking whether it was safe to end a course of a drug early if it wasn't having the hoped-for effect, or whether it was one for which I needed to take the whole course < 1474063777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also one in Colorado. < 1474063787 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The questions I usually ask about them is which is the cheapest product equivalent to some other product. < 1474063798 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Seems reasonable. < 1474063846 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, it may help now that I have a doctor as a brother and I can ask questions to him. < 1474063926 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474064044 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474064328 0 :sewilton!uid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hcryqvwhzchwyzzd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1474064343 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474064627 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474064775 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should just have made one of the emergency numbers 8675309 < 1474064795 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474064804 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why? < 1474064813 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474064826 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, it's easy to remember < 1474064836 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :becuase everyone knows that number from the song < 1474064857 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. That song was never popular here. < 1474064892 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in places where that song was popular, then < 1474064900 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard the song. < 1474064902 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I know the number. < 1474064948 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People can remember the emergency numbers because they're written on a lot of places that are easy to notice: on lots of emergency vehicles, near public payphones, on some police buildings, on websites, etc. < 1474064974 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And from phonebooks, for old people like me.) < 1474064983 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's a song for them. Maybe there should be. < 1474064996 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are probably instruction videos. < 1474065034 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen signs advertizing the emergency numbers in other public places too, often together with other useful information about emergency procedures.. < 1474065091 0 :espes!~espes@205.185.120.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474065106 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, signs that say that if there's a fire in this building, call some number it gives which is the phone number of the maintainer for that public building or call 112; the sign also sometimes tells you what information you should report. < 1474065210 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's written on emergency vehicles here; what payphones?; I don't think it's writen on police buildings either < 1474065215 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not particularly prominenty < 1474065228 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agree about emergency signs though < 1474065265 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the ones in public buildings pointing out where emergency exits are and what way to take and such < 1474065281 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and websites too. like, see the two big numbers on http://www.police.hu/ ? < 1474065319 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, I'll give you websites too < 1474065345 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://polisen.se/ ← yeah, here too apparently. makes sense < 1474065352 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite as prominent though < 1474065379 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also hope teachers teach these kinds of useful things in elementary schools and high schools, but I don't follow what schools do these days. < 1474065389 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, definitely < 1474065418 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously that doesn't help older adults when a lot of these information needs updated. < 1474065422 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and < 1474065539 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the majority of adults here have a driver's license, and unless you've got it many decades ago, a driver's license requires a course and exam on first aid procedures and other procedures to be followed in case of an accident, and that definitely requires knowing how to call the police and ambulance < 1474065582 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also television. Many people still watch television, and television also tells about this sort of thing sometimes. < 1474065613 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if you listen to the news programs, not only TV series. < 1474065617 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So television and radio probably helps a lot too. < 1474065670 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the annoying things about English is comparative adjectives < 1474065710 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp: be more specific? < 1474065717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Working on it < 1474065726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I first saw the words used by Wiktionary, it was that (usually) -est is the Superlative (the most adjectival), which I knew < 1474065780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that (usually) -er (used to say something more adjectivial, but not necessarily the most) is the... "comparative"? < 1474065799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1474065803 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474065884 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474065990 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hear a story < 1474066038 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474066163 0 :Kobalt!~nodebot@221.96.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1474066468 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1474066554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kobalt: did you kill your master < 1474066777 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474067195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474067279 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg7zxr9wnz2txww.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474067292 0 :makellite!~ago@catv-86-101-160-175.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474067570 0 :Zoroaster!~Aedile@casewireless02.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474067575 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474067685 0 :makellite!~ago@catv-86-101-160-175.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world :) < 1474067727 0 :makellite!~ago@catv-86-101-160-175.catv.broadband.hu PART #esoteric : < 1474067727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE makellite < 1474067729 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MaKeLlItE: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: . (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN EfNeT Or dAlNeT.) < 1474067742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1474067758 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1474068195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lol < 1474068196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol stands for laughing out legends < 1474068255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg lol < 1474068257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-06-24 le/rn lol/lol stands for laughing out legends < 1474068265 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1474068281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's probably out of your league < 1474068288 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that part < 1474068306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's combining, i guess, "laughing out loud" and "league of legends" < 1474068307 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1474068315 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't get it < 1474068317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. you expect there to be more to it? < 1474068329 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect it to not exist if that's all there is to it < 1474068368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1474068446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx le/rm//rm "wisdom/$1" < 1474068448 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rm < 1474068449 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rm lol < 1474068451 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474068480 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -sf ../bin/forget le/rm < 1474068481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1474068485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf ../bin/forget le/rm < 1474068487 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474068499 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rm lol < 1474068499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/lol': No such file or directory \ Forget what? < 1474068931 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474068936 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 0 < 1474068938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hax0r//hax0r (see ¯\(°​_o)/¯) < 1474068946 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 1 < 1474068947 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*1//1*1 is two. < 1474068949 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 2 < 1474068950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523//Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. < 1474068967 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 3 < 1474068968 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usb3//USB3 hosts are packaged with a full independent implementation of the older USB/USB2, going through separate pins in the same socket. It is similar to DVI, except you need a separate passive converter stub to plug VGA monitor to DVI socket, but you don't need one to plug a USB client to an USB3 host. < 1474068990 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 4 < 1474068991 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan//4chan is twice as loud as stereo. < 1474068995 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 5 < 1474068996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :md5//MD5 is a hash algorithm mainly used by underdeveloped aliens. < 1474069002 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 6 < 1474069003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600//2600 Hz is the tone made by Captain Crunch's whistle. < 1474069008 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 7 < 1474069009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337//1337 15 50 905 < 1474069012 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 8 < 1474069013 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474069014 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 8//Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1474069019 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 9 < 1474069020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2//hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1474069025 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 10 < 1474069026 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1474069030 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 11 < 1474069032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1474069034 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 12 < 1474069035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2//hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1474069039 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 13 < 1474069040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337//1337 15 50 905 < 1474069044 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 14 < 1474069045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: : No such file or directory \ // < 1474069075 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474069075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop spamming. < 1474069100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just right now but in general. < 1474069102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if that 905 is meaningless or not < 1474069133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg 1337 < 1474069134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-11-23 learn 1337 15 50 905 < 1474069140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we all < 1474069144 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was a bit surprised that it got through all digits without repeating a wisdom < 1474069172 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose we'll never know, then. < 1474069202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? effilry < 1474069203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effilry is eemnoos how ahs got it all deorst otu. < 1474069234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that "cat: : No such file or directory \ //" behavior on error a little... less polished. Needs more PE. < 1474069275 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PE? < 1474069281 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Product excellence. < 1474069298 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474069302 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1474069327 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloon < 1474069342 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hoag bin/wisdom < 1474069344 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` echo \'f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); { echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//"; cat "$f"; } | rnooodl\' > bin/wisdom \ ` echo \'f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//" | rnooodl; rnooodl < "$f"\' > bin/wisdom \ ` echo \'f=$(find wisdom - < 1474069352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have dropped out of a spiel I was in the middle of < 1474069361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About comparative adjectives in english < 1474069380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparative adjectives are the most bester < 1474069411 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I first saw the words used to describe relative adjectives used by wiktionary, I saw -est is for "superlative", which I knew- it is the most adjectivial thing < 1474069422 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I saw -er is for "comparative", which I'd never heard < 1474069445 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's just your problem hth < 1474069475 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it bugged me at first because if -er- which is for a more, but not necessarily the most, adjectivial thing- what is for a less adjectivial thing? The word "comparative" applies to any relative difference, not just increase < 1474069478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :positive, comparative, superlative are the three used in english. < 1474069489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Never heard positive < 1474069500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it hit me, something I'd missed my whole life: English doesn't /have/ a way to say "less" < 1474069508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well it's the default form so rarely noted specifically. < 1474069513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1474069521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you can use antonyms ('bigger/smaller'), but that just doesn't feel right any more < 1474069540 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbigger < 1474069578 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially because for more obscure adjectives, their properest antonym might not be available- so you'd have to use a propere... shit. See? Do you see the problem? < 1474069593 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yeah, sure < 1474069593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i haven't yet learned of any language which has an inflection for "less", as opposed to using an auxiliary word. but there's probably some. < 1474069606 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It should be ALL that have inflections. < 1474069619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and while we're at it, one for equal) < 1474069640 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/{/if [ -n "$f" ]; then/;s/} |/else echo "that'\''s not wise"; fi |/' bin/wisdom < 1474069641 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but it isn't. we've probably inherited this mess from PIE. < 1474069642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1474069647 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1474069671 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 11 < 1474069672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not wise < 1474069692 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom forty < 1474069693 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forty//forty means "in a fort-like manner" < 1474069702 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's at least a little better. < 1474069704 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb < 1474069705 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventory//The Tanebventory is big. Really big. For one thing, it contains a Hilbert hotel. < 1474069708 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can say "Your house is big" and "this cavern is big", but are they /equally/ big? < 1474069721 0 :hydraz!?@? NICK :hydPaz < 1474069725 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb < 1474069726 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, locales, and histograms. < 1474069736 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom taneb < 1474069737 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who taneb is not//elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1474069739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/wisdom//s/that/That/;s/wise/wise./ < 1474069741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/wisdom//f=$(find wisdom -ipath "wisdom/*$1*" -type f -print0 | shuf -z -n1); if [ -n "$f" ]; then echo -n "${f#wisdom/}//"; cat "$f"; else echo "That's not wise."; fi | rnooodl < 1474069791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -li really wisdom < 1474069798 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/zygohistomorphic prepromorphism \ wisdom/piet \ wisdom/oklopol \ wisdom/tanebventory \ wisdom/god's number \ wisdom/vorpal \ wisdom/inory < 1474069811 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? god's number < 1474069812 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God's number is the maximum number of moves a Rubik's cube can require to solve. It is equal to 20. No, really. Look it up. < 1474069816 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1474069824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vorpal < 1474069825 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal writes software for boring machines. Really big ones. < 1474069838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1474069844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, what the hell. We need ALL the equalities and inequalities) < 1474069853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually come to think of it, i don't know any language inflections for comparison that aren't the indo-european ones. < 1474069874 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people either know what god's number is, or expect quarter turn metrics < 1474069881 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case god's number is 24 < 1474069882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...scratch that, i know hungarian. which afaik also has 3 levels. < 1474069899 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know Hungarian? < 1474069901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-bb, leg-...-bb) < 1474069908 0 :Moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not vorpal, this is vorpal: https://github.com/dthree/vorpal < 1474069914 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the affixes for comparison, anyway. < 1474069919 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no it's 26 in qtm < 1474069929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quan tum mechanics < 1474069929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other cruft. < 1474069935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1474069936 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4evil overlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474069938 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: quarter turn metrics < 1474069944 0 :digin4!~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474069963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd oerjan//s#overlord kommisjonær#hungarian oerlord# < 1474069965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/oerjan//Your mysterious 4evil hungarian oerlord immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1474070017 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's the "-ish" adjectival inflection, that's a little like "less". Big, bigger, biggest -- but just moderately biggish. < 1474070063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course there are diminutives and things. < 1474070069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those aren't used for comparison. < 1474070155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway as for using antonyms, did you know russian has an entire inflection category (verb aspect) that is _always_ formed by changing to a distinct verb? and although it's often done with some prefix, it's not predictable which one. < 1474070361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("x is adj-er than y" is x > y; "x is the adj-est X" is max(X) = x; additional inflections must be added for: x < y; min(X) = x; x ≤ y; x ≥ y x ≪ y; x ≫ y; x = y; x ≠ y; x ≈ y; x ≉ y; x ≡ y; x := y; x ≟ y ("x isn't even related to y what the hell are you talking about"))