< 1474589300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1474589336 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just cleared my inbox down to only 6 conversations in total < 1474589522 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474589538 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474590416 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474593154 0 :tmlm!~pablo@181.23.33.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474593479 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474593864 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hellørjan. < 1474593864 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474593873 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1474594299 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just received an email from the Trump campaign where the 'Unsubscribe' button doesn't work. US law requires a working button. I cited law at them. < 1474594301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel happy. < 1474594649 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you should report them to whoever you're meant to report that sort of thing to < 1474594656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why are the Trump campaign emailing you anyway? < 1474594663 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Federal Trade Comission < 1474594666 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Commission < 1474594692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They made a survey for what you want to see happen at the debate. I filled it out. For fun. < 1474594768 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474595278 0 :keemyb!keemyb@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-pjiieiwpvedmecpj JOIN :#esoteric < 1474595293 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome keemyb < 1474595295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02keemyb: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1474595836 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1474596197 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does #esoteric think of the Triangle of Power (the math notation) < 1474596198 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1474596334 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangle of power? < 1474596342 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Triangle of power < 1474596365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I think I just stumbled on something better than big sigma/big pi/big whatever: basket notation, which is like big whatever BUT it can be applied to any operation- you write a basket (which looks like a large, more square version of union with an overline like in roots coming off the right side, terminating in a down-serif), above it goes your terminating condition (if you want it to go to infinity, write nothing), below is your < 1474596365 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :initial state and- optionally- a semicolon followed by a filter (e.g. x%2 == 0), to the right (under the overline) is the formula, and inside the "basket" is the symbol for a binary operation or function < 1474596368 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1474596379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's a unified symbol for power/root/log < 1474596462 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an equilateral, upwards-pointing triangle (of course), in the bottom left is a base, at the top is a power, and in the bottom right is the result. A blank bottom right represents exponentiation, a blank bottom left represents rootation, and a blank pinnacle represents logation < 1474596471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes notation less stupid. < 1474597025 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh. < 1474597031 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MAGIC CHICKEN < 1474597041 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, I was about to say something to boily xD < 1474597057 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], have some criticism of it https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/4hv523/triangle_of_power_a_newly_created_mathematical/d2tmbxz < 1474597058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e quit just before I hit b < 1474597207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ah, yes, that didn't occur to me. I have been trying to decide if a more compact notation looks better- I'm thinking a[right-facing triangle]b for power, a[left-facing triangle]b for root, and a[vertical triangle]b for log. < 1474597619 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily < 1474597634 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-laid < 1474597634 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1d 16h 10m 21s ago: QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAA! I am even more unsynchronized as usual! < 1474597661 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1474597790 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm having trouble remembering which positions on the triangle correspond to which operation < 1474597810 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yeah, I realized that, then I realized there's a simple fix < 1474597842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) swap the compact symbols as given for root and log, (2) 'right is for root, left is for log' < 1474597858 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r-r, l-l) < 1474597928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Does that work? < 1474597949 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1474598064 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474600761 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474600769 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474600963 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474601831 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've improved the jamo to prevent most of the collisions: http://www.orenwatson.be/hangulgeneratedtext.htm < 1474601949 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my firefox is broken while opening that url < 1474601972 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using firefox too, and it works. < 1474602003 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why, but my firefox has been very slow with certain monospace fonts < 1474602029 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm that it's due to fonts from profiling < 1474602043 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have no clue why that happens (and why other fonts seem to be fine) < 1474602099 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: anyway, looks quite casual :p < 1474602233 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: initial ㅌ sometimes seems to be indistinguishable from ㄷ (and ㅎ sometimes looks like ㆆ) < 1474602254 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final consonant also occasionally blends with the vowels, but that is probably inevitable < 1474602277 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the overall shape seems to be fine otherwise, though I should describe it to be quirky < 1474602322 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OnceI've generated a good enough in general thing, I'll go over them and adjust stuff < 1474602369 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always interesting to see a hangul font not from korea < 1474602877 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It appears to be stylistically consistent with the other glyphs in oren's font, FWIW. < 1474602904 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, that kind of feeling < 1474603152 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part the characters in my font are in a sans-serif or "gothic" style < 1474603282 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes I found it necessary to vary the stroke width in order for complex characters to fit in a 16 by 18 pixel space < 1474603336 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when that isn't the case, the stroke width is two pixels. < 1474603926 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm I've almost solved the problems < 1474603938 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a bit more tweaking < 1474604016 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't want anything to collide < 1474604154 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474605825 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474606058 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474606396 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1474606444 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-184-058.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1474607262 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-43500d4c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XKCD title text contains spoilers for a story. < 1474612714 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474613407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/aisamanra/status/779057953542242304 < 1474614196 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474614238 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474614246 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's xkcd is a metaphor for healthcare. "Hospitals are not worth at our scale. If an organ fails in a person, we just throw away the entire person." "Why mess with individual people? We just throw away the entire country if it's managed wrong." < 1474614276 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474614288 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474614536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a^^b = H[4](a, b), what is a^^-1? < 1474614606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pft < 1474614613 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not jumping straight to H[-1](a, b)? < 1474615345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not yet; I genuinely want to know what a^^-1 is < 1474615361 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google negative tetration < 1474615362 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetration < 1474615378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( sqrt(a)+sqrt(b) = sqrt(c) ) < 1474615468 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, apparently it's hard to meaningfully extend tetration to the reals. < 1474615528 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Really? < 1474615600 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the link I posted says. < 1474615751 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. It provides some extensions, but they don't agree, they're not generally accepted, and they're not exactly simple. < 1474615796 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, (b^r)^s cannot consistently hold if b can be real < 1474615813 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that. < 1474615889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because b can be negative; if r*s is an integer- but r and s aren't (e.g. r = 1/s), you get... weirdness, I guess. (-1^3/4)^4/3 is sqrt(i)^3, and from what I know ab < 1474615996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*about imaginary numbers, sqrt(i) should be the point on the unit circle between 1 and i; so... 2a^2=1, a^2 = 0.5, a=sqrt(0.5); a ≈ 0.707+0.707i < 1474616037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you want to raise that to the power of 4/3... so cube root tesseracted... < 1474616052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowtration < 1474616215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 0.5000000000000002+0.8660254037844386i, and accounting for rounding errors suggest it's about 0.5+0.8660254037844386i < 1474616236 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if we just did -1^(3/4*4/3), we trivially just get -1 < 1474616243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, powers < 1474616524 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474617463 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1474617549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL 1/((1/log_x(a))+(1/log_y(a))) = log_xy(a) < 1474617819 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49756&oldid=49674 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* (+2) 10Fixed formatting towards bottom of page < 1474618423 0 :tmlm!~pablo@181.23.33.178 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1474618879 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474619837 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474619927 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474620051 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1474620064 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1474620069 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49757&oldid=49755 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+97) 10Linked the brainfuck translations page. < 1474620240 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474622975 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapter 1 exercise 17 in k&r < 1474622985 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a program that prints all the lines longer than 80 characters < 1474622998 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday a sort of challenge came up in ##c < 1474623020 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :write the fastest program that solves that problem < 1474623052 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have some competition < 1474623209 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write it in any language < 1474623229 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474623550 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Games can often be PvP (Player vs Player, analogous to Man vs Man in stories), PvM (Player vs. Monster, similar but slightly different), or PvE (Player vs. Environment; similar to Man vs. Nature) < 1474623576 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474623582 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see a game that's Pv< (Player vs. Self, like Man vs. Self); or, more interesting, PvS (Player vs. Society) < 1474623813 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would you put fahrenheit? < 1474623952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Tolilul 5* 10New user account < 1474623961 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's at `ftoc < 1474623965 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 82 < 1474623966 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :82.00°F = 27.78°C < 1474623998 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i meant the game < 1474625220 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474625766 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474626160 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc -40 < 1474626162 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-40.00°F = -40.00°C < 1474626250 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/ftoc < 1474626250 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ftoc: Perl script, UTF-8 Unicode text executable < 1474626256 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ftoc < 1474626256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $f=0+$ARGV[0]; printf"%.2f°F = %.2f°C",$f,($f-32)*5/9; < 1474626285 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, I might give that challenge a go < 1474626291 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1474626323 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language? < 1474626449 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try Piet just for fun < 1474626462 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1474626478 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1474626483 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to win the speed that way, though < 1474626506 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, maybe with a decently optimizing compiler < 1474626518 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not try to solve that golf challenge where you have to find the shortest unique prefix of each line in piet < 1474626544 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: wait your turn < 1474626546 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd have to be hella optimizing to beat people doing it in C with like actual seriously developed compilers < 1474626555 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first, I need to get out of bed < 1474626721 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1474626992 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lead < 1474626992 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 12m 7s ago: hellørjan. < 1474627006 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily g'doily. < 1474627006 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1474628012 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wtf < 1474628013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1474628026 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn WTF means Welcome To Finland. < 1474628029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wtf': WTF means Welcome To Finland. < 1474628041 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stolen from a youtube comment) < 1474628067 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReqKRvonE you need to watch this video) < 1474628520 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474629614 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474629856 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? duck < 1474629857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1474629863 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? duck typing < 1474629864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck typing means typing on a terminal blindly without an echo. < 1474629876 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there two of these? < 1474629890 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why does the first one say blinding? < 1474629893 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I messed up < 1474629893 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg duck < 1474629895 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-02-16 learn Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1474629899 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was me, yes < 1474629899 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg duck typing < 1474629905 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-04-03 slashlearn duck typing/Duck typing means typing on a terminal blindly without an echo. \ 2016-02-16 slashlearn duck typing/Duck typing means typing on a terminal blinding without an echo. < 1474629908 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just unlearn duck, right? < 1474629909 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trqbOAs6428 WATCH THIS ALL OF IT < 1474629915 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget duck < 1474629918 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1474629981 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION closes the trump thing < 1474630020 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, i'm trying to avoid this. < 1474630095 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i'm having trouble seeing the point of your entry. it is neither true nor punny afaict. < 1474630104 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1474630105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-np//co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1474630109 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1474630109 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 51m 42s ago: g'doily. < 1474630122 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matørjan. < 1474630124 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellefficiency. < 1474630139 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a joke about how a duck's quack doesn't echo < 1474630157 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a stupid joke, but a joke nonetheless < 1474630161 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh. < 1474630195 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellob_jellonas. didn't they even have the Mythbusters on it one time? < 1474630308 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea < 1474630585 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474631246 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did. < 1474631268 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was even included in one variant of the opening credits. < 1474631283 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jamie saying "quack, damn you" to an uncoöperative duck. < 1474632342 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : remember when this channel wasn't about politics? those were good times... <-- . o O ( should we have a vote on whether to ban politics until Nov 9 ) < 1474632597 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose we aren't actually having flamewars though. < 1474633020 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:8124:4f35:daca:31b6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474633142 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: QUARTER CHICKEN < 1474634203 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1474634204 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1474634453 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, the many topics is why this channel is the best < 1474634474 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's crazy maths, fonts, esoteric languages, and more < 1474634773 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474635636 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy maths including category theory < 1474635639 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universal property < 1474635641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universal properties are the best. < 1474635647 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474635827 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474635920 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474636726 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is working on the izapietchallenge < 1474637525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474639510 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474639521 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fhkruhoxbezsoftk JOIN :#esoteric < 1474640675 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1474640811 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1474640972 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474640975 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i'm waaaitiiiing < 1474641036 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/35/24/87/352487048a5d8b4f9000f0baab53a6d1.jpg < 1474641051 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what's the time? < 1474641051 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you said it's not just a gtk interface. < 1474641260 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474641442 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungottery < 1474641443 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: obfuscation is possible in emacs, i will prepare something and return later, that'd be civil disobedience ignoring laws might be healthy, regardless of whether or not it is. < 1474641671 0 :deltab!~deltab@fpc1-king9-2-0-cust1.perr.static.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474641726 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep fungot /usr/share/dict/* < 1474641726 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think you need to start going, the people haven't shown up on the freenode faq. it's not in ascii order. < 1474641727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /usr/share/dict/*: No such file or directory < 1474641774 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, the freenode faq is quite hard to find. < 1474641807 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, I got kicked out the software lab and now I'm in a meeting < 1474642096 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.5 < 1474642121 0 :kragniz!~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1474642199 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"civil disobedience ignoring laws might be healthy, regardless of whether or not it is" -- well said, fungot < 1474642199 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: some kind of toy compiler/ interpreter < 1474642445 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1474642655 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474642699 0 :_46bit!~fortysix@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PART #esoteric : < 1474644409 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:8124:4f35:daca:31b6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474645359 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:756a:ca9e:c11a:dba6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474645777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMETANA To Infinity!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49758&oldid=49757 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* Computational class */ sdrawkcab s'taht < 1474646143 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i can't believe you'd do such a thing < 1474646615 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1474646657 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even understand how some of the prices of things I buy are possible < 1474646703 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a thing to be shipped to my house from hong kong. Apparently, the thing and shipping it is a total of 2 canadian dollars < 1474646737 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, sure, it's just a usb thingy, but still. two dollars? < 1474646956 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not being carried on a silver plate < 1474647080 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, they are moving a thing more than 10 megametres across the earth! < 1474647107 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the cost per kilometre so low? < 1474647157 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they carry a shitton of them at a time < 1474647772 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I agree, it's totally impossible < 1474647775 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how they do it < 1474647811 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :post from China and Taiwan is magic < 1474648984 0 :super_bender!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:756a:ca9e:c11a:dba6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1474649926 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1474650431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rodrigo Duterte once forced a south korean tourist to eat his cigarette. < 1474650629 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very polite < 1474650667 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking in public is banned in Davao City, so he saw fit to enact an immediate punishment < 1474650714 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: was the cigarette still lit while the tourist ate it? < 1474650720 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1474650727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/09/23/495012102/criticized-abroad-philippines-leader-remains-hugely-popular-in-home-city < 1474650730 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did Rodrigo Duterte at least put away his own cigarette while he did that? < 1474651026 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1474652356 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I am out of practice of Piet < 1474653041 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :had you ever been in practice? < 1474653088 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it in Chef instead < 1474653394 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have an array with n numbers, can you find the smallest difference between any two elements in less than O(n log n) ? < 1474653407 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474653450 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i just sort the thing? < 1474653473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474653521 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474653605 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1474653646 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, Piet was the first programming language I learnt < 1474653658 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1474653668 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you learn an esoteric programming language as your first language? < 1474653689 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's how I got into programming < 1474653695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are perfectly good non-esoteric programming languages out that are hard to program < 1474653748 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1474653768 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 12 or so < 1474653835 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew that < 1474653844 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you just program Basic or something? < 1474653851 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know Basic < 1474653864 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm heading out now, though < 1474653872 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye then < 1474653875 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1474653876 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. (See also: tanebventions) < 1474654282 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474654341 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-194.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474654492 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474655333 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1474657857 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474657951 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474657984 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474658079 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perle print 9**(1/3) < 1474658080 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perle: not found < 1474658082 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print 9**(1/3) < 1474658083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.0800838230519 < 1474658099 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's only slightly above 2 < 1474658102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print 26**(1/3) < 1474658103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.96249606840737 < 1474658526 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1474658709 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-194.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1474658779 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474658982 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1474660629 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@183.89.39.8 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1474662273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-81.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1474663247 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: If there are whole sections of human minds dedicated to finding order in the oddest of places, and yet no order is true, what does that say about the human mind? < 1474664365 0 :moonythedwarf!~ubuntu@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474664637 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1474665392 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piet is a pretty interesting first language < 1474665416 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and last language < 1474665720 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474666547 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:6944:d7b9:4447:da8f JOIN :#esoteric < 1474666590 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1474666645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis A080601 < 1474666649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://oeis.org/A080601 Number of positions in which the 3 X 3 X 3 Rubik's ... < 1474666649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,18,243,3240,43239,574908,7618438,100803036,1332343288,17596479795,2322480... < 1474667796 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1474667997 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-170.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1474668129 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are still 5 values missing < 1474668204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. There are approxmations but I guess they don't belong on OEIS. < 1474668210 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OEAIS < 1474668273 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 sqrt(2) e pi ... < 1474668297 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds not very integery < 1474668304 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks difficult to calculate < 1474668317 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to the increasing number of duplicate positions < 1474668379 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: they are approximately integers... to some degree... < 1474668433 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, 1, 3, 3 < 1474668473 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The least integery number is (1+sqrt(5))/2 < 1474668499 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1474668506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So polynomials are elements of a free ring? < 1474668515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And regular expressions are elements of a free Kleene algebra? < 1474668565 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [((1 + sqrt 5)/2)^n/sqrt 5 | n <- [0..10]] < 1474668567 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.4472135954999579,0.7236067977499789,1.1708203932499368,1.8944271909999157... < 1474668576 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 5 $ [((1 + sqrt 5)/2)^n/sqrt 5 | n <- [0..10]] < 1474668576 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because multiplying it by a rational helps the least in making it integery < 1474668578 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4.959674775249769,8.024922359499621,12.984597134749391,21.00951949424901,33... < 1474668593 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a good approximate integer sequence to me. < 1474668604 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: so 1+sqrt(5) is the same < 1474668633 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if you divide it by two then the continued fraction is [1;1,1,1,1,1...] < 1474668636 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since multiplying it by 1/2 will go to that < 1474668644 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1474668663 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how makes it that any less integery as sqrt(2)? < 1474668706 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The continued fraction for sqrt(2) will converge a lot faster < 1474668741 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'll have good rational approximations < 1474668810 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474669005 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1;2,2,2,2...] isn't *that* much better than phi though < 1474669068 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1474669119 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(5) is [2; 4,4,4,4,4,...] < 1474670160 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1474670222 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1474670603 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1474670783 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 1 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in zipWith (/) (tail fibs) fibs !! 20 < 1474670785 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.618033985017358 < 1474671011 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1474671223 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh, let x :: Foo; x = ... in x does not ensure that the resulting expression has type Foo. < 1474671250 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ?x :: () < 1474671252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: internal error: PAP object entered! < 1474671252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC version 8.0.1 for x86_64_unknown_linux) < 1474671252 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please report this as a GHC bug: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/reportabug < 1474671255 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?x :: () < 1474671257 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?x::()) => () < 1474671267 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting an ICE on an expression as short as that < 1474671271 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ?x do anyway? < 1474671284 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a lie, this is not ghc's fault. < 1474671296 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an implicit parameter < 1474671298 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :":: ()" isn't something that should type < 1474671308 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> x :: () < 1474671310 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :() -> () < 1474671317 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () :: () < 1474671319 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1474671322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1474671325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a strange definition of :: < 1474671334 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t show (?x :: ()) < 1474671335 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?x::()) => String < 1474671339 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (::) < 1474671341 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: parse error on input ‘::’ < 1474671343 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1474671347 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: is type annotation in Haskell < 1474671350 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not list cons < 1474671351 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a limit on the number of open file descriptors per process? < 1474671354 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it muddled with ocaml < 1474671386 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: Because there is a limit on the number of open file descriptors for the whole system which is pretty restrictive usually. < 1474671405 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: that's fine but why enforcing it on a per process basis? < 1474671411 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why enforce* < 1474671431 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint/mueval are assuming that show (?x :: ()) is a String, but here it's (?x::()) => String. They use unsafeCoerce to treat it as a String... and that causes the error. < 1474671437 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just to limit the effect that any one process can have on the rest of the system, I would suppose. < 1474671447 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sortix doesn't have that limit < 1474671452 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a terrible idea? < 1474671469 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can usually set the per-process limit < 1474671479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data T = T < 1474671480 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is all very nice but how does one fix this elegantly? Food for thought. < 1474671480 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1474671485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> T < 1474671487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error: < 1474671487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : • No instance for (Show T) < 1474671487 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M72086211520596876424453’ < 1474671552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1474671734 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it appears that type classes are resolved just eagerly enough that this is only happening for implicit parameters < 1474671815 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Why was TypeApplications not enabled? < 1474671819 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember there was some reason? < 1474671849 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes @ whitespace sensitive. < 1474671867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1474671958 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo (x @ ~(y:z)) = (x,y,z) in foo [] -- it would break this, for example < 1474671960 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([],*Exception: :3:5-30: Irrefutable pattern failed for pattern... < 1474672071 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to write the pattern as (x@ ~(y:z)) instead < 1474672101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're saying you just don't like the extension. < 1474672110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that there's any other reason not to turn it on in lambdabot. < 1474672164 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1474672243 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's likely safe. But ugly. < 1474672249 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-247-26.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1474673439 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474673940 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1474674100 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1474674187 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1474674243 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474674551 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1474674798 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1474675005 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds